400186;1385856012;ThickAsThieves;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135035.msg3785733#msg3785733 it's like people wanna be robbed 400187;1385856013;ozbot;Havelock Investments - Exchange feedback/comments 400188;1385856042;ThickAsThieves;(he's complaining that occassionally the HL hot wallet needs refilling 400189;1385856043;ThickAsThieves;) 400190;1385856149;pankkake;at least whe know their cold wallet is actually cold 400191;1385856161;pankkake;and wtf at using services like that as wallets 400192;1385856184;ThickAsThieves;well in all fairness he's trying to withdraw 400193;1385856331;mircea_popescu;probably to buy trilema credits and that CANTWAIT 400194;1385856348;ThickAsThieves;i hear they are going up in value 400195;1385856353;ThickAsThieves;12btc ;) 400196;1385856375;mircea_popescu;lol nah 400197;1385856376;ThickAsThieves;when is the Trilema IPO? 400198;1385856406;pankkake;not enough tits posted for ROI 400199;1385856411;mircea_popescu;amusingly, it does make more than most "businesses". 400200;1385856454;ThickAsThieves;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=235763.msg3785169#msg3785169 this Jimmothy guy is pretty smart 400201;1385856456;ozbot;ASICMINER Speculation Thread 400202;1385856479;mircea_popescu;asicminer speculation is still a thing ?! 400203;1385856520;ThickAsThieves;yeah mostly they speculate by pretening previous updates dont exist and wondering when such updates will come 400204;1385856534;pankkake;it moved to the main thread. lot of creativity going on 400205;1385856549;pankkake;AM is doing 4nm ASICs in parternship with IBM 400206;1385856553;ThickAsThieves;they once a week when the next asicminer poll will be 400207;1385856555;mircea_popescu;there must be a way to harness all this chicken clucking at keyboard action. 400208;1385856559;ThickAsThieves;but they never have new questions 400209;1385856572;ThickAsThieves;ask* 400210;1385856614;mircea_popescu;"Wow, so Mircea Popescu made ~$50,000 that month? Not bad! Mad propz." 400211;1385856616;mircea_popescu;(oct 2012) 400212;1385856646;ThickAsThieves;at trilema? 400213;1385856653;mircea_popescu;i wonder how old threads will look retrospectively in like 2015 or 2025 400214;1385856663;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves no, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=64962.msg1306014#msg1306014 400215;1385856693;ThickAsThieves;word 400216;1385856720;ThickAsThieves;pankkake calling altcoins fad too! 400217;1385856756;mircea_popescu;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135035.msg3786976#msg3786976 << apparently she liked the cold wallet stuff 400218;1385856758;ozbot;Havelock Investments - Exchange feedback/comments 400219;1385856824;ThickAsThieves;is "weak hands" a meme yet? 400220;1385856841;pankkake;weak hands whales walls 400221;1385856849;pankkake;please 400222;1385856852;ThickAsThieves;fake walls too 400223;1385856878;ThickAsThieves;oh and "this is a bubble" 400224;1385856891;mircea_popescu;this is a fake hand bubble wall hand. 400225;1385856899;mircea_popescu;no wait i fucked it up 400226;1385856902;ThickAsThieves;weak bubbles 400227;1385856913;mircea_popescu;this is a fake bubble weak wall hand 400228;1385856923;mircea_popescu;fake hand weak bubblewall 400229;1385856924;mircea_popescu;THAR! 400230;1385856929;ThickAsThieves;lol 400231;1385856968;mircea_popescu;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=271711.200 400232;1385856978;mircea_popescu;am i crazy or is she actually talking to some guy more ignored than her ? 400233;1385857028;pankkake;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=68329.msg3258523#msg3258523 400234;1385857029;ozbot;[Feature added] Color besides usernames for Ignored by % of established members. 400235;1385857055;mircea_popescu;daa520 vs daa521 holy shit this has occured. 400236;1385857173;mircea_popescu;who is this jaroslaw noob! 400237;1385857235;ThickAsThieves;never even heard of this ElectricMucus befire 400238;1385857241;ThickAsThieves;impressive for someone so ignored 400239;1385857278;pankkake;me neither, perhaps a comeback? 400240;1385857281;pankkake;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=339544.msg3787075#msg3787075 hug this guy! 400241;1385857282;ozbot;BitBet Stole ~$7,000 from me (10 BTC) 400242;1385857334;kakobrekla;some paid shill 400243;1385857369;ThickAsThieves;is snackman the first guy to lose his whole bet to the policy? 400244;1385857392;mircea_popescu;nah 400245;1385857407;mircea_popescu;i recall some guy forfeiting 25 btc that way 400246;1385857408;pankkake;there's a report with 26 BTC? 400247;1385857410;mircea_popescu;yeah 400248;1385857417;pankkake;but was that one guy? 400249;1385857460;mircea_popescu;iric the month with > 26 btc, 25 of it came out of one bet 400250;1385857484;mircea_popescu;i wouldn't swear to it tbh 400251;1385857567;ThickAsThieves;;;nethash 400252;1385857568;gribble;5741301.27297 400253;1385857574;ThickAsThieves;;;bcstats 400254;1385857577;gribble;Current Blocks: 272383 | Current Difficulty: 7.074082830514966E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 274175 | Next Difficulty In: 1792 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 4 hours, 21 minutes, and 49 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 834612855.691 | Estimated Percent Change: 17.98178 400255;1385857590;mircea_popescu;dude it beats 1bn ? 400256;1385857594;frb;pankkake: :) 400257;1385857597;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5228 @ 0.00011398 = 0.5959 BTC [-] {3} 400258;1385857602;ThickAsThieves;My money is on No 400259;1385857611;mircea_popescu;that bet is so even it's unreal. 400260;1385857635;ThickAsThieves;i'm hesitant to say but fuckit, i'm the 52btc bet 400261;1385857647;ThickAsThieves;that evened it 400262;1385857658;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.3194 = 1.2776 BTC [+] 400263;1385857719;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2722 @ 0.00011399 = 0.3103 BTC [+] 400264;1385857785;kakobrekla;the biggest late so far was 20 btc on >Litecoin Surges to .02 Bitcoins per Litecoin 400265;1385857793;jurov`;heh tat. idiffs ended, so ruining someone else on difficulty futures this time 400266;1385857799;ThickAsThieves;hehe 400267;1385857832;ThickAsThieves;worse ways to make money 400268;1385857861;kakobrekla;this is excluding november 400269;1385858085;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 192 @ 0.002035 = 0.3907 BTC [+] 400270;1385858146;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1799 @ 0.00200015 = 3.5983 BTC [-] {2} 400271;1385858476;mircea_popescu;a so it was 20 not 25 400272;1385858477;mircea_popescu;aite 400273;1385858741;frb;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=339544.msg3787381#msg3787381 400274;1385858743;ozbot;BitBet Stole ~$7,000 from me (10 BTC) 400275;1385858745;frb;i regret posting in this thread now 400276;1385858751;frb;snackman is incredibly dense 400277;1385858759;mircea_popescu;frb which one are you ? 400278;1385858765;frb;kopipe is my BTCtalk username 400279;1385858773;mircea_popescu;a. hello there. 400280;1385858788;frb;hello :) 400281;1385860260;ThickAsThieves;"Is the era of American exceptionalism coming to an end?" 400282;1385860277;ThickAsThieves;Bill Clinton: America needs to stop majoring in the minors. That is, we need to look more at what other countries are now doing better than we are and learn from it instead of being in denial about it. 400283;1385860317;ThickAsThieves;Bill Gates: It’s OK for China to invent cancer drugs that cure patients in the United States. We want them to catch up. But as the leader, we want to keep setting a very, very high standard. We don’t want them to catch up because we’re slowing down or, even worse, going into reverse. 400284;1385860347;mircea_popescu;kinda late for that. 400285;1385860350;ThickAsThieves;i was hoping for more interesting answers 400286;1385860379;ThickAsThieves;like commenting on the psychology of American Exceptionalism 400287;1385860383;mircea_popescu;what's " American exceptionalism" supposed to mean anwyay ? 400288;1385860392;ThickAsThieves;how we think we're the best 400289;1385860414;ThickAsThieves;pride in our laziness 400290;1385860424;mircea_popescu;but this is universal banality. 400291;1385860428;mircea_popescu;everyone thinks the same. 400292;1385860439;ThickAsThieves;except we're better 400293;1385860442;ThickAsThieves;duh 400294;1385860444;mircea_popescu;the "russian soul", the "romanian feeling of existernce" etc. 400295;1385860447;Duffer1;you'd have to live here to understand just how pervasive the 'mjurica #1 woooot" 400296;1385860465;mircea_popescu;;;google sentimentul romanesc al fiintei 400297;1385860468;ThickAsThieves;Duffer1 i agree 400298;1385860474;mircea_popescu;o goog's gone 400299;1385860476;ThickAsThieves;it starts in grade school 400300;1385860486;mircea_popescu;i tell you, there's exactly no difference. argentines and vietnamese think the same. 400301;1385860490;kakobrekla;grib's gone 400302;1385860491;ThickAsThieves;you are american, you can be president or astronaut if you want 400303;1385860491;mircea_popescu;serbs and croats think the same 400304;1385860492;mircea_popescu;even sudan 400305;1385860499;Duffer1;i'm not saying jingoism is unique to america.. 400306;1385860502;mircea_popescu;or somalia 400307;1385860506;kakobrekla;careful, you are close to somalia 400308;1385860509;kakobrekla;see. 400309;1385860525;ThickAsThieves;then americans go to job at gas station happy knowing they could be president if they wanted 400310;1385860535;ThickAsThieves;mp you are probly right 400311;1385860537;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla your slovenly compatriots don't think they're like all unique and so on ? 400312;1385860548;ThickAsThieves;but you really dont think US is more full of itself than else? 400313;1385860552;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves how is this different from like... anyone else ? 400314;1385860561;mircea_popescu;i mean i guess the brit couldn't be queen... 400315;1385860575;mircea_popescu;but he could be lieutenant general 400316;1385860604;Duffer1;our political rhetoric is so nausiating, when we elect a new president we say "x has been elected the new leader of the free world" 400317;1385860605;kakobrekla;i only have absolute measument which is not interesting for this debate 400318;1385860616;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves well i think the notion that the us constitutes a notion is heartwarmingly ludicrous, but otherewise no, not really different from anyone else. 400319;1385860635;mircea_popescu;Duffer1 the soviets said the same 400320;1385860637;mircea_popescu;so does cuba. 400321;1385860668;Duffer1;i guess i'm exceptionalist about our exceptionalist tendencies? wait does that prove i'm right? 400322;1385860670;mircea_popescu;"the notion that the us constitutes a nation" i meant. 400323;1385860670;Duffer1;:P 400324;1385860676;ThickAsThieves;i dunno, why is it a feel embarassed to say i'm american when travelling? 400325;1385860683;ThickAsThieves;do you feel that for Romania when you leave? 400326;1385860691;ThickAsThieves;I* 400327;1385860692;Duffer1;afk 400328;1385860706;ThickAsThieves;maybe it's a me problem 400329;1385860708;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 803 @ 0.00038825 = 0.3118 BTC [+] 400330;1385860711;mircea_popescu;nah, romania is incredibly well received. 400331;1385860728;mircea_popescu;i did a lot of travelling and adding it all up my romanian passport was pretty much the best passport to have. 400332;1385860739;ThickAsThieves;cuz Twilight 400333;1385860746;mircea_popescu;i mean... in libya or serbia a us passport is a liability 400334;1385860754;mircea_popescu;so is british in say argentina 400335;1385860760;mircea_popescu;but romanians nevr massively pissed anyone off. 400336;1385860788;kakobrekla;same here, cause we are too stupid and small 400337;1385860841;mircea_popescu;romania also has the advantages that 1, soccer is popular and romania was really good at it historically, so ppl in latin america are all HAGi !! LACATUS!!! 400338;1385860872;mircea_popescu;and 2. the commies did a lot of machinery exporting, so all over the middle east it's like, o, you're romanian, that means you're like the best engineer in town 400339;1385861233;mircea_popescu;One of the worlds leading authorities on genetics says the human race was born into existence after a chimpanzee mated with a pig. 400340;1385861235;mircea_popescu;that'd explain a lot. 400341;1385861256;ThickAsThieves;did he mate them to test if a jimmothy popped out? 400342;1385861453;mircea_popescu;lol 400343;1385861867;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4239 @ 0.00079604 = 3.3744 BTC [-] 400344;1385861928;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11247 @ 0.00079303 = 8.9192 BTC [-] {2} 400345;1385863148;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 11 @ 0.1139727 = 1.2537 BTC [+] {6} 400346;1385864214;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/bitbet-november-2013-statement/ 400347;1385864215;ozbot;BitBet, November 2013 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 400348;1385864219;pankkake;http://www.coindesk.com/entrepreneur-roger-ver-1m-bitcoin-donation/ 400349;1385864234;pankkake;the bitcoin jesus title claimed by another 400350;1385864272;mircea_popescu;pankkake all bitcoin jesus references are a meme-ish joke @ that nonsense. 400351;1385864281;mircea_popescu;it's sort of like "two weeks" 400352;1385864294;pankkake;I'm surprised, there were a lot of resolved bets, only 5 BTC? I guess you really have to steal 400353;1385864445;pankkake;I don't understand "which will be carried over as a charge on the next month’s statement" 400354;1385864486;kakobrekla;copy pasta fail 400355;1385864549;mircea_popescu;pankkake 5btc = 500 btc worth of bets resovled. 400356;1385864550;mircea_popescu;1% fees. 400357;1385864930;kakobrekla;looks about right, signed. 400358;1385865222;assbot;[MPEX] [S.BBET] [PAID] 6.94089846 BTC to 3`000`000 shares, 231 satoshi per share 400359;1385865222;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 8 @ 0.0734125 = 0.5873 BTC [-] {5} 400360;1385865356;kakobrekla;now i can retire. 400361;1385865361;mircea_popescu;lol 400362;1385865527;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4250 @ 0.00009625 = 0.4091 BTC [-] {4} 400363;1385865588;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 5 @ 0.11999998 = 0.6 BTC [+] {3} 400364;1385865649;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 100 @ 0.00428854 = 0.4289 BTC [-] {4} 400365;1385865656;mircea_popescu;Duffer1 here's one for you http://trilema.com/2013/the-positive-market-effects-of-the-delivery-bet/ 400366;1385865869;mircea_popescu;http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/10486452/Woman-has-child-taken-from-her-womb-by-social-services.html 400367;1385865935;mircea_popescu;http://news.yahoo.com/presidential-term-limits--necessary-and-right--or-bad-for-democracy-192726518.html 400368;1385865937;ozbot;Presidential term limits: necessary and right, or bad for democracy? - Yahoo News 400369;1385865962;pankkake;seriously for a "mental breakdown" 400370;1385866002;pankkake;I think I need a dose of http://cuteoverload.com/ 400371;1385866046;pankkake;haha of course it's bad when it's Obama 400372;1385866050;mircea_popescu;their pigglet is my screen saver. 400373;1385866259;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00079527 = 1.1929 BTC [+] 400374;1385866320;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 125 @ 0.00310596 = 0.3882 BTC [+] {3} 400375;1385866550;mircea_popescu;The publics approval rating for Congress has finally hit rock bottom: For the first time, America has a higher opinion of car salespeople. 400376;1385866747;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SMG] 1379 @ 0.00009947 = 0.1372 BTC [+] {3} 400377;1385866808;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SMG] 3256 @ 0.00009964 = 0.3244 BTC [+] {3} 400378;1385867308;pankkake;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=353925.0 who is this guy? 400379;1385867309;ozbot;Make a stable 12% ROI Guaranteed - BTC-EQTY Bonds *LIMITED QUANTITY* 400380;1385867541;pankkake;oh it's not 12% every 60 days 400381;1385867594;mircea_popescu;um 400382;1385867601;mircea_popescu;apparently some guy that doesn't understand apr. 400383;1385867610;mircea_popescu;2% over 60 days != 12% apr. 400384;1385867624;mircea_popescu;;;calc 1.02 ** (365/60) 400385;1385867649;pankkake;1.126162419264 400386;1385867653;mircea_popescu;o no gribs. well ok, it's 12.8 so close 400387;1385867663;mircea_popescu;1.128022368! 400388;1385867669;pankkake;weird 400389;1385867673;pankkake;I run it in ipython 400390;1385867674;mircea_popescu;wtf, 400391;1385867707;pankkake;oh it's because Python rounds the division 400392;1385867715;pankkake;you have the right one 400393;1385867719;mircea_popescu;a ok. 400394;1385868354;KRS1;i heard my neighbor's dog is ready to launch a btc ipo..everyone's got one now. =/ 400395;1385868593;mircea_popescu;ironically, the russian dog leika could have done a great ipo 400396;1385868597;mircea_popescu;TO THE MOON! 400397;1385869610;KRS1;Yes, this should be a good week! 400398;1385869630;KRS1;trying to spot some target sell prices 400399;1385871566;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.11 BTC [+] 400400;1385871707;KRS1;;seen vexual 400401;1385871711;KRS1;;;seen vexual 400402;1385871711;gribble;vexual was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 days, 16 hours, 22 minutes, and 53 seconds ago: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEEWE7gcPw0 400403;1385873759;bgupta;not sure what to make of this one.. http://www.coindesk.com/british-island-physical-bitcoins-uk-royal-mint/ 400404;1385875316;KRS1;what do you think? 400405;1385875324;KRS1;anything come to mind? 400406;1385876934;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 170 @ 0.0031 = 0.527 BTC [-] 400407;1385877056;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 79 @ 0.0031059 = 0.2454 BTC [+] 400408;1385879191;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 66 @ 0.00203898 = 0.1346 BTC [-] {4} 400409;1385879549;javanomad;javanomad - formerly "firstblockchain" - with apologies again - sends thanks. 400410;1385879618;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 164 @ 0.00320458 = 0.5256 BTC [+] {11} 400411;1385879984;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 36 @ 0.30217288 = 10.8782 BTC [-] {13} 400412;1385881143;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7511 @ 0.00079476 = 5.9694 BTC [-] {2} 400413;1385882790;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SMG] 4469 @ 0.0001174 = 0.5247 BTC [+] {6} 400414;1385883522;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 500 @ 0.00309222 = 1.5461 BTC [-] {8} 400415;1385884071;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 53 @ 0.30017072 = 15.909 BTC [-] {9} 400416;1385884437;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 490 @ 0.00039 = 0.1911 BTC [-] 400417;1385884986;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 31 @ 0.15834833 = 4.9088 BTC [+] {8} 400418;1385885169;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 42 @ 0.00429 = 0.1802 BTC [+] {2} 400419;1385886206;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.30000001 BTC [-] 400420;1385888524;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 510 @ 0.00039 = 0.1989 BTC [-] 400421;1385888768;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 2198 @ 0.0004 = 0.8792 BTC [+] 400422;1385890960;jurov`;;;seen topace 400423;1385890960;gribble;topace was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 days, 15 hours, 20 minutes, and 7 seconds ago: the panama fund owns 80m units, but since the ipo didnt sell out, it actually holds ~83.3m units still. 400424;1385891330;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2281 @ 0.00011183 = 0.2551 BTC [+] {4} 400425;1385892916;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SMG] 5531 @ 0.00012 = 0.6637 BTC [+] 400426;1385894553;KRS1;And now https://coinfloor.co.uk/ 400427;1385894688;kakobrekla;thats nefarios thing isnt it 400428;1385895463;KRS1;ya 400429;1385895478;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 8 @ 0.0314025 = 0.2512 BTC [-] {5} 400430;1385895539;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 6 @ 0.030835 = 0.185 BTC [-] {2} 400431;1385895582;KRSgotchawallet;theres another KRS registered so I'm gonna use this nick 400432;1385896082;KRS|gotyawallet;;;seen vexual 400433;1385896083;gribble;vexual was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 days, 23 hours, 9 minutes, and 4 seconds ago: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEEWE7gcPw0 400434;1385896096;KRS|gotyawallet;that nigga trippin.. 400435;1385896130;KRS|gotyawallet;wtf is nobody on? are you all in the US? am I the only one who stays up 22 hrs a day? 400436;1385896149;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.30001 BTC [+] 400437;1385896189;kakobrekla;im on 400438;1385896211;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.3 = 0.9 BTC [-] 400439;1385896332;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2921 BTC [-] 400440;1385896670;KRS|gotyawallet;where are u at 400441;1385896705;KRS|gotyawallet;I'm EST -5 400442;1385896894;KRS|gotyawallet;sup bitesak 400443;1385896964;kakobrekla;bash flushed 400444;1385896988;kakobrekla;KRS|gotyawallet gmt+1 or something 400445;1385897003;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.029002 = 0.145 BTC [-] {2} 400446;1385897047;KRS|gotyawallet;word 400447;1385897308;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.31724334 = 0.6345 BTC [+] {2} 400448;1385897369;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.31725845 = 2.5381 BTC [+] {2} 400449;1385897524;KRS|gotyawallet;I'm out..See ya kakobrekla! 400450;1385897652;kakobrekla;good luck 400451;1385898523;dexX7;;;goxlag 400452;1385898524;gribble;MtGox lag is 0.861659 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00172675498839 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin across the outer diameter of Saturn's rings (0.0024 AU). 400453;1385898650;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 292 @ 0.00202999 = 0.5928 BTC [+] {3} 400454;1385901029;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.31916666 = 0.9575 BTC [+] {3} 400455;1385901090;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.3194 = 1.2776 BTC [+] 400456;1385901273;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.32799992 = 2.296 BTC [+] {3} 400457;1385901334;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.32880999 = 1.3152 BTC [+] {3} 400458;1385902305;mircea_popescu;;;ticker 400459;1385902305;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1114.01002, Best ask: 1115.98988, Bid-ask spread: 1.97986, Last trade: 1115.98988, 24 hour volume: 31755.77875866, 24 hour low: 1063.0, 24 hour high: 1230.0, 24 hour vwap: 1155.68563 400460;1385903195;bitesak;I ran through the history of http://btcoracle.com to determine the net cumulative effect and see how they are doing. Running since April 2013 they seem down 18.63 BTC overall with a total revenue of 1028 400461;1385903347;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.00318529 = 0.6371 BTC [+] {2} 400462;1385903408;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 189 @ 0.00319945 = 0.6047 BTC [+] {8} 400463;1385903469;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 849 @ 0.003225 = 2.738 BTC [+] {15} 400464;1385903517;bitesak;nothing comparable to mpex.. 400465;1385903530;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 454 @ 0.00327447 = 1.4866 BTC [+] {10} 400466;1385903591;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 375 @ 0.00331723 = 1.244 BTC [+] {5} 400467;1385903652;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 588 @ 0.00335239 = 1.9712 BTC [+] {9} 400468;1385903713;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.32880999 BTC [+] 400469;1385903714;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 540 @ 0.00342068 = 1.8472 BTC [+] {10} 400470;1385903774;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 685 @ 0.00360211 = 2.4674 BTC [+] {9} 400471;1385903775;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.32880999 BTC [+] 400472;1385903835;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 171 @ 0.00369937 = 0.6326 BTC [+] {11} 400473;1385903836;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.32880999 BTC [+] 400474;1385903896;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 313 @ 0.00388141 = 1.2149 BTC [+] {10} 400475;1385903957;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 267 @ 0.00403543 = 1.0775 BTC [+] {11} 400476;1385904018;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 306 @ 0.00428295 = 1.3106 BTC [+] {10} 400477;1385904044;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/smg-november-2013-statement/ 400478;1385904044;ozbot;S.MG, November 2013 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 400479;1385904063;mircea_popescu;bitesak i never heard of it before. 400480;1385904079;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 245 @ 0.00435653 = 1.0673 BTC [+] {9} 400481;1385904080;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.31960332 = 0.9588 BTC [-] {3} 400482;1385904140;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 199 @ 0.00479453 = 0.9541 BTC [+] {9} 400483;1385904141;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.32880999 = 0.9864 BTC [+] {2} 400484;1385904201;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 770 @ 0.00498774 = 3.8406 BTC [+] {8} 400485;1385904202;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.32882 = 0.6576 BTC [+] {2} 400486;1385904211;mircea_popescu;in other news : the ~8.5k btc minigame collected is still largely untouched, we can now afford to make the best game ever made. 400487;1385904262;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 422 @ 0.00503372 = 2.1242 BTC [+] {5} 400488;1385904269;mircea_popescu;diablo 3 cost ~65 million if memory serves. it's true that it sucked, but then again we're no blizzard. 400489;1385904323;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 135 @ 0.00508898 = 0.687 BTC [+] {6} 400490;1385904324;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.32882999 BTC [+] 400491;1385904423;pankkake;what would happen if you end up with much more capital than you actually need? (in general, not S.MG) 400492;1385904445;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 3 @ 0.125 = 0.375 BTC [+] 400493;1385904594;bitesak;you rock MP, the services you provide and your articles are simply and elegantly the bitcoin standard 400494;1385904679;mircea_popescu;pankkake distribute 400495;1385904691;pankkake;as dividends? 400496;1385904700;mircea_popescu;this is what you always do witjh capital you can't effectualy deploy, you distribute it to shareholders 400497;1385904701;mircea_popescu;yes 400498;1385904715;mircea_popescu;bitesak /me bows 400499;1385904816;pankkake;what about share buybacks? 400500;1385904829;mircea_popescu;in practice it makes no difference anwyay, whether you actually pay it out or just keep it in the bank, because in the latter case the share just trades as a proxy of your cash (see apple) 400501;1385904837;mircea_popescu;just as long as you don't stupidly spend it is all good. 400502;1385904846;mircea_popescu;maybe share buybacks too, yes. 400503;1385904876;pankkake;well the cash could be used for other things instead of doing nothing 400504;1385904879;mircea_popescu;tho in general the thing is with share buybacks that they tend to increase the price. seeing how btc is btc, you generally don'y want to increase share price, lest you make them unaffordable per item 400505;1385904889;mircea_popescu;pankkake all bitcoin is technically "doing nothing". 400506;1385904935;pankkake;I was just wondering about what the best thing to do was between dividends or buybacks, like avoiding stupid increases in share prices 400507;1385904950;mircea_popescu;let's look into this. consider a company has 50 btc in the bank and 100 shares. in case a, it distrivbutes 50 btc. now shareholders have 0.5 btc per share. 400508;1385904968;mircea_popescu;in case b, it just safes the 50 btc. now any shareholder wanting btc can sell his share for 0.5, which is exactly the sdame result. 400509;1385905003;mircea_popescu;well, dividends have the inherent unfairness of post-ex date. (ie, they only reward people hiolding the shares NOW, as opposed to "having hold the shares") 400510;1385905014;mircea_popescu;buybacks have the disadvantage they mess with the price. 400511;1385905106;dexX7; diablo 3 cost ~65 million if memory serves. ... < i don't get the reference, 8.5k btc are only 1/8 of that? 400512;1385905142;mircea_popescu;dexX7 today. 400513;1385905148;pankkake;1) for now 2) 1/8 of diablo's kinda huge already!! 400514;1385905151;mircea_popescu;six months ago they were 1/80 of that. 400515;1385905192;mircea_popescu;and yes, i don't think it ever happened in the history of computer gaming that a new company with new management working on an indie game ever had > 10% of the most expensive largest corp's budget. 400516;1385905193;pankkake;related I tend to think "too much money" is a common reason of project failures 400517;1385905212;mircea_popescu;think if some guy working in his garage had as much resources as 1/10 boeing, to make his new plane. 400518;1385905220;mircea_popescu;this is the sort of unprecedented power Bitcoin gives us. 400519;1385905232;mircea_popescu;ideally we will use it to permanently and deeply change the world, 400520;1385905242;mircea_popescu;rather than perpetually dick around with labcoins and bitcoin gems. 400521;1385905245;pankkake;(in the case of SMG, we can see it isn't being spent, so all is good) 400522;1385905269;mircea_popescu;pankkake too much money is worse poison than too little for new projects, that's damned sure. 400523;1385905281;mircea_popescu;luckily this one has me for chief asshole (CAO). 400524;1385905290;dexX7;haha fine. i thought you wanted to say something like "look, we have more funds than d3 consumed" and simply missed a zero or so ;) 400525;1385905302;dexX7;no doubt that it's still a lot 400526;1385905302;mircea_popescu;:p 400527;1385905319;kakobrekla;thats why its better etf doesnt pay divs 400528;1385905334;mircea_popescu;why, cause people just spend it ? :D 400529;1385905344;kakobrekla;on stupid shit 400530;1385905352;mircea_popescu;maybe. or maybe they buy more. 400531;1385905356;mircea_popescu;you never know what people d o. 400532;1385905407;mircea_popescu;anyway, to close up the dividend/buyback discussion : the difference is really slight in an efficient market. the only way either is "unfair" is if the market is inefficient, and misprices things. 400533;1385905423;mircea_popescu;the judgement call is mostly "which of these two is the market most likely to misprice to a larger extent". 400534;1385905442;mircea_popescu;then honest operators do the one least likely to be mispriced, and dishonest operators (or US people) do the other. 400535;1385905533;kakobrekla;US people only? 400536;1385905561;mircea_popescu;just bein' a bitch. 400537;1385905578;kakobrekla;who did you have in mind specifically? 400538;1385905590;kakobrekla;xbond? 400539;1385905593;mircea_popescu;pretty much any company listed on the nyse 400540;1385905597;mircea_popescu;no no, i meant fiat corps. 400541;1385905601;kakobrekla;a 400542;1385905614;mircea_popescu;bitcoin people have no nationality 400543;1385905617;mircea_popescu;they're bitcoin nationals. 400544;1385905657;kakobrekla;yeah but us bitcoin nationality is less valuable than eu bitcoin nationality 400545;1385905670;mircea_popescu; dexX7 today. 400546;1385905755;kakobrekla;can you elaborate on nyse mispricing further? 400547;1385905773;mircea_popescu;let me hide behind a buffett quote, one second. 400548;1385905909;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 48 @ 0.004 = 0.192 BTC [-] 400549;1385906265;mircea_popescu;about there, but meanwhile found this one you might like : 400550;1385906265;mircea_popescu;We have found over time that the undistributed earnings of 400551;1385906265;mircea_popescu;our investees, in aggregate, have been as fully as beneficial to 400552;1385906266;mircea_popescu;Berkshire asif they had been distributed to us (and therefore had 400553;1385906266;mircea_popescu;been included in the earnings we officially report). This pleasant 400554;1385906266;mircea_popescu;result has occurred because most of our investees are engaged in 400555;1385906267;mircea_popescu;truly outstanding businesses that can often employ incremental 400556;1385906269;mircea_popescu;capital to great advantage, either by putting it to work in their busi- 400557;1385906271;mircea_popescu;nesses or by repurchasing their shares. Obviously, every capital 400558;1385906273;mircea_popescu;decision that our investees have made has not benefitted us as 400559;1385906275;mircea_popescu;shareholders, but overall we have garnered far more than a dollar 400560;1385906277;mircea_popescu;of value for each dollar they have retained. We consequently re- 400561;1385906279;mircea_popescu;gard look-through earnings as realistically portraying our yearly 400562;1385906281;mircea_popescu;gain from operations. 400563;1385906458;assbot;[MPEX] [S.BBET] 500 @ 0.0005 = 0.25 BTC [-] 400564;1385906528;mircea_popescu;and here it is : 400565;1385906528;mircea_popescu;As long as investors-including supposedly sophisticated institutions-place fancy valuations on reported "earnings" that march steadily upward, you can be sure that some managers and promoters will exploit GAAP to produce such numbers, no matter what the truth may be. Over the years, Charlie and I have observed many accounting-based frauds of staggering size. Few of the perpetrators have been punished; many have not eve 400566;1385906529;mircea_popescu;n been censured. It has been far safer to steal large sums with a pen than small sums with a gun. 400567;1385907556;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.32882998 BTC [-] 400568;1385907579;mircea_popescu;lol forum down ? 400569;1385907599;pankkake;for a while now 400570;1385907714;mircea_popescu;mpoe-pr is "can i has day off, forum down" 400571;1385907718;mircea_popescu;im like omgwtfbbq 400572;1385907726;mircea_popescu;where will we get lulz~! 400573;1385907767;pankkake;no easy procrastination today :( 400574;1385907782;pankkake;I wanted to use a French paypal alternative to accept small donations without needing SEPA wires, but it turns out they made it even worse 400575;1385907791;pankkake;and I feel like they screen each transaction manually 400576;1385907824;mircea_popescu;just use bitcoin. 400577;1385907849;Apocalyptic;mircea_popescu, forum is not down 400578;1385907867;mircea_popescu;Apocalyptic ? 400579;1385907870;Apocalyptic;just thermos decided to switch to cloudflare and the new DNS entries don't redirect correctly 400580;1385907876;pankkake;that was suggested :) but we hold euros, and doubt everyone would be ok with having bitcoins 400581;1385907892;pankkake;so I'm trying to register with bitpay again 400582;1385907895;mircea_popescu;Apocalyptic what's the ip do you happen to know ? 400583;1385907896;Apocalyptic;i still have the old IP and it's up 400584;1385907934;Apocalyptic;mircea_popescu, 109.201.133.195 400585;1385907936;pankkake;fuck, another bitcoin website using NSAFlare? 400586;1385907947;Apocalyptic;be sure to set the host for that though 400587;1385907951;mircea_popescu;i vaguelly recal it was 52.something 400588;1385907960;Apocalyptic;pankkake, yeah sucks 400589;1385908061;mircea_popescu;not like anyone uses it for any serious purpose 400590;1385908071;mircea_popescu;let nsa have all tghe webpages it wants 400591;1385908214;mircea_popescu;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=omgwtfbbq 400592;1385908215;ozbot;Urban Dictionary: omgwtfbbq 400593;1385908228;mircea_popescu;i like it how nobody has a clue what that stands for anymore. 400594;1385908233;mircea_popescu;great internet and your 2 year memory. 400595;1385908282;nubbins`;big blaq qoq 400596;1385908349;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.32599998 BTC [-] 400597;1385908351;truffles; fuck, another bitcoin website using NSAFlare?>>> what does this mean? 400598;1385908401;jurov`;truffles: you have to surrender ssl cert to cloudflare so that it works effectively 400599;1385908423;pankkake;basically it's MITM 400600;1385908435;truffles;layman's terms? 400601;1385908440;nubbins`;MITMFlare 400602;1385908448;mircea_popescu;wow truffles still around ? that's persistence. 400603;1385908452;pankkake;man in the middle, they can inspect/alter the content at will 400604;1385908453;nubbins`;inorite 400605;1385908465;truffles;haters 400606;1385908476;truffles;i c 400607;1385908493;truffles;thanks pankkake 400608;1385908504;truffles;and jurov` 400609;1385908532;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3259999 BTC [-] 400610;1385908574;Apocalyptic;truffles, how are you doing ? 400611;1385908584;truffles;great today thanks 400612;1385908589;truffles;urself? 400613;1385908609;mircea_popescu;did he say anything offensively stupid recently or am i taking him off ignore ? 400614;1385908649;nubbins`;lel 400615;1385908673;pankkake;ignore on irc doesn't work well. you end up reading confusing stuff sometimes 400616;1385908674;nubbins`;i don't think there's a rush 400617;1385908677;mircea_popescu;a well, here goes. 400618;1385908694;truffles;pankkake exactly 400619;1385908729;mircea_popescu;pankkake yeah but then you bitch at the other people. 400620;1385908753;truffles;the argument cads made was u might look silly to ur friends or something like that if u speak to someone that is "trolling" 400621;1385908754;pankkake;if only there was a Web of Ignore 400622;1385908791;nubbins`;web of mistrust 400623;1385908817;mircea_popescu;web of mistrust sounds like a great game title. 400624;1385908837;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 153 @ 0.00349934 = 0.5354 BTC [-] {3} 400625;1385908878;nubbins`;would play 400626;1385909081;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3255 BTC [-] 400627;1385909338;mircea_popescu;http://bitbet.us/bet/519/btc-network-difficulty-to-top-1b-before-2014/ < i love how it's pretty much the big miners betting yes and the general public betting no 400628;1385909342;ozbot;BitBet - BTC network difficulty to top 1B before 2014 400629;1385909351;mircea_popescu;people ARE starting to hedge properly. 400630;1385909393;mircea_popescu;;;bc,diff 400631;1385909393;gribble;Error: "bc,diff" is not a valid command. 400632;1385909406;mircea_popescu;;;diff 400633;1385909407;gribble;7.074082830514966E8 400634;1385909410;mircea_popescu;gah 400635;1385909429;mircea_popescu;;;bcstats 400636;1385909432;gribble;Current Blocks: 272498 | Current Difficulty: 7.074082830514966E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 274175 | Next Difficulty In: 1677 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 10 hours, 15 minutes, and 4 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 864170438.127 | Estimated Percent Change: 22.16007 400637;1385909454;pankkake;some serious power being added 400638;1385909457;pankkake;.d 400639;1385909457;ozbot;707408283.05150 | Next Diff in 1677 blocks | Estimated Change: 21.4365% in 9d 3h 27m 35s 400640;1385909461;pankkake;hmm 400641;1385909466;mircea_popescu;o wow wasn't it 13% yest ? 400642;1385909468;pankkake;where is the thing using "last 3 days" 400643;1385909470;pankkake;yeah 400644;1385909508;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 32 @ 0.00328687 = 0.1052 BTC [-] {4} 400645;1385909569;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3255 BTC [-] 400646;1385909630;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.3255 = 1.6275 BTC [-] 400647;1385909813;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.3258 = 1.9548 BTC [+] 400648;1385909935;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3258 BTC [+] 400649;1385909967;mircea_popescu;.d 400650;1385909967;ozbot;707408283.05150 | Next Diff in 1677 blocks | Estimated Change: 21.4365% in 9d 3h 19m 5s 400651;1385910118;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 119 @ 0.00328378 = 0.3908 BTC [-] {6} 400652;1385910164;pankkake;;;estimate 400653;1385910165;gribble;Next difficulty estimate | 862504808.6 based on data since last change | 877503262.113 based on data for last three days 400654;1385910179;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.326 BTC [+] 400655;1385910264;nubbins`;my redeemed casascius coin is up to $62 on ebay 400656;1385910350;mircea_popescu;it's not a gold coin is it ? 400657;1385910435;nubbins`;brass 400658;1385910439;mircea_popescu;a ok 400659;1385910478;nubbins`;seems like there's a fair bit of demand for them, too 400660;1385910964;nubbins`;mircea_popescu: so what sort of art assets fall under the "desperately need" umbrella for S.MG? 400661;1385910998;mircea_popescu;well 3d models for flora and fauna, architecture, more textures, a hud... 400662;1385911165;nubbins`;hud sounds interesting, what's involved? 400663;1385911240;mircea_popescu;not quite specified yet, but basically remember how diablo 1/2 looked / 400664;1385911241;mircea_popescu;? 400665;1385911277;kakobrekla;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIhk9eKOLzQ 400666;1385911278;ozbot;MIT graduates cannot power a light bulb with a battery. - YouTube 400667;1385911431;mircea_popescu;haha 400668;1385911449;nubbins`;ah yeah, i remember the general look of it 400669;1385911510;mircea_popescu;something like that, marble figurines suppoerting the vitals, marblework bottom 400670;1385911524;mircea_popescu;has to be elegant and somehow make sense with our SIX different fucking vitals. 400671;1385911575;ThickAsThieves;like blood pressure? 400672;1385911575;mircea_popescu;has to also be easily schemable (i can see other than gothic mablework a la diablo a alchemist-crazy machine chemistry set look and a nature grapes and vines look. perhaps even a tesla thing, perhaps even a zerg thing - that's already 5 faces) 400673;1385911591;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves hitpoints/bloodpoints ; mana/spirit ; a physical and a magical stamina. 400674;1385911612;nubbins`;hm, interesting 400675;1385911631;nubbins`;assuming 100% width on bottom, got a max % of height in mind? 400676;1385911639;mircea_popescu;it'd be a hud see ? 400677;1385911643;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00328 = 0.328 BTC [-] {4} 400678;1385911651;mircea_popescu;this thing superimposed o the map view in 1st person 400679;1385911668;mircea_popescu;o i see what you mean nm. 400680;1385911683;nubbins`;heh, i started re-reading everything D: 400681;1385911686;mircea_popescu;it shouldn't be "very big" but not tiny either is the best i can say 400682;1385911688;ThickAsThieves;as small as possible 400683;1385911693;ThickAsThieves;while still usable 400684;1385911697;mircea_popescu;yeah. as small as possible while still delivering. 400685;1385911703;mircea_popescu;diablo 2's is perhaps slightly too large. 400686;1385911704;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.326 BTC [+] 400687;1385911705;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9950 @ 0.00079343 = 7.8946 BTC [-] 400688;1385911728;mircea_popescu;sorry, i mean d1. d2 is maybe on the too small side 400689;1385911755;mircea_popescu;http://troublmaker.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/diablo2.jpeg http://www.w5d.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/diablo-1-hellfire-h1n-net.jpg 400690;1385911760;mircea_popescu;for reference 400691;1385911781;nubbins`;ah, sure, ok. that leaves a lot more room to work with 400692;1385911787;nubbins`;so say roughly 20-25% of vertical 400693;1385911818;mircea_popescu;the idea is that it's filigree'd 400694;1385911831;mircea_popescu;so it's not the same height all through 400695;1385911835;mircea_popescu;more on edges, less in center 400696;1385911844;nubbins`;yeah 400697;1385911847;mircea_popescu;actually a V sort of design prolly best anyway 400698;1385911851;nubbins`;nod 400699;1385911876;mircea_popescu;maybe even with thin wire frames on the edges, 16px or w/e, and decor on the upcorners 400700;1385911881;nubbins`;d1 hud could lose like half its height in the center and still be ok 400701;1385911888;mircea_popescu;yup 400702;1385911909;mircea_popescu;and obviously because of the general look and feel considerations i'd want the same people making each face to do a lot of the menu work too. 400703;1385911918;mircea_popescu;so it's probably one of the later things to consider. 400704;1385912008;nubbins`;nod 400705;1385912020;ThickAsThieves;forum is down 400706;1385912037;ThickAsThieves;;;nethash 400707;1385912037;gribble;6281508.86974 400708;1385912042;ThickAsThieves;:( 400709;1385912045;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves use the ip, it's in the log 400710;1385912050;mircea_popescu;tghey fucked up their dns 400711;1385912078;ThickAsThieves;got it thx 400712;1385912094;ThickAsThieves;uhh 400713;1385912101;ThickAsThieves;it goes to bitcoins.com 400714;1385912104;mircea_popescu;nono 400715;1385912107;nubbins`;wondering if it's worth exploring faces that work stylistically with the heraldry trims, i.e. bone face, storm face, spider/tentacle face, etc 400716;1385912114;Apocalyptic;ThickAsThieves, does virtual host ring a bell ? 400717;1385912116;ThickAsThieves;h 400718;1385912118;ThickAsThieves;thats not it 400719;1385912121;nubbins`;altho that might just be me projecting 400720;1385912123;mircea_popescu;either feed it into your dns autoresolver or else replace bitcointalk.org in an actual url wioth the ip 400721;1385912134;nubbins`;really like the idea of a grapes/vines one tho 400722;1385912144;nubbins`;and marblework is classy 400723;1385912147;mircea_popescu;nubbins` yeah. all this takes more thinking. 400724;1385912152;nubbins`;nod 400725;1385912161;Apocalyptic;mircea_popescu, the latter won't work actually 400726;1385912164;ThickAsThieves;Apocalyptic ? 400727;1385912176;ThickAsThieves;what's the IP anyway? 400728;1385912178;mircea_popescu;generally tho, the faces are impiortant cause ppl spend so much time gazing at them 400729;1385912178;Apocalyptic;since it indeed redirects to bitcoins.com with the plain IP 400730;1385912180;ThickAsThieves;i just found this Apocalyptic 400731;1385912183;ThickAsThieves;oops 400732;1385912189;mircea_popescu;say a boar, you see for 5 minutes a day. the fucking interface is there 100% of the time 400733;1385912195;Apocalyptic;ThickAsThieves, you're on some unix-based system ? 400734;1385912199;nubbins`;nod, it's what you stare at all day 400735;1385912200;mircea_popescu;https://109.201.133.195/index.php?topic=350103.80 400736;1385912201;ozbot;[Mpex.co] The biggest scam in bitcoin history? 400737;1385912207;mircea_popescu;how come ozbot can see it ? 400738;1385912207;nubbins`;well, let's put a pin in this and maybe chat a bit more about it when some more details are hashed out 400739;1385912212;mircea_popescu;yeh. 400740;1385912231;ThickAsThieves;i'm on windows atm, mp's new link works tho 400741;1385912256;Apocalyptic;interesting mircea 400742;1385912302;mircea_popescu;Apocalyptic together, with our powers combined, we make team bitcointalk access 400743;1385912308;Apocalyptic;heh 400744;1385912366;Apocalyptic;providing the girl with opportunities for moar lulz 400745;1385912381;Apocalyptic;(and ruining her day off, too) 400746;1385912436;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.326 = 0.652 BTC [+] 400747;1385912580;mircea_popescu;you gotta be totally thermos to imagine cloudflaring domain names does anything against ddos 400748;1385912592;mircea_popescu;as if anyone actually dns's his dos packets, wtf. 400749;1385912619;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.30500103 = 0.61 BTC [-] {2} 400750;1385912671;nubbins`;heh 400751;1385912741;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.30500001 BTC [-] 400752;1385912889;ThickAsThieves;https://109.201.133.195/index.php?topic=352692.msg3778294;topicseen#new 400753;1385912890;ozbot;3-day Auction for Invite Code to purchase Google Glass 400754;1385913058;KRS|gotyawallet;that is teh lulz mircea_popescu 400755;1385913126;KRS|gotyawallet;i have a friend that does that for a living..he told me some good stories..cloudflare is their biggest competitor 400756;1385913161;mircea_popescu;nubbins` the good news is of course that only a 2048x 1536 transp png is needed, we can scale that as needed. 400757;1385913357;mircea_popescu;so this is the lulz of all time. local da sued local lawyer guy in family court, to force him to recognise her child. 400758;1385913364;mircea_popescu;dna tests showed the man is not the father 400759;1385913372;mircea_popescu;the court declared him the father ANYWAY 400760;1385913384;ThickAsThieves;? 400761;1385913393;mircea_popescu;on the grounds that "there's no inkling of proof that any other man figured in the life of the claimant" 400762;1385913420;ThickAsThieves;he has two DNAs I guess 400763;1385913424;ThickAsThieves;only one is testable 400764;1385913453;mircea_popescu;lol 400765;1385913457;mircea_popescu;"pull the other one" 400766;1385913474;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves this incidentally is true, there exist chymeras 400767;1385913588;KRS|gotyawallet;heh 400768;1385913841;nubbins`;2048x1536, gotcha 400769;1385913849;ThickAsThieves;parasitic chimerism sounds pretty neat 400770;1385913866;ThickAsThieves;"Chimerism occurs naturally in adult Ceratioid anglerfish and is in fact a natural and essential part of their life cycle. Once a male is born, it begins its search for a female. Using strong olfactory glands, the male searches until it locates a female anglerfish. The male, less than an inch in length, bites into her skin and releases an enzyme that digests the skin of his mouth and 400771;1385913866;ThickAsThieves;her body, fusing the pair down to the blood-vessel level. While this attachment has become necessary for the male's survival, it will eventually consume him, as both anglerfish fuse into a single hermaphroditic individual. Sometimes in this odd ritual, more than one male will attach to a single female as a 'parasite'. They will both be consumed into the body of the larger female angler. 400772;1385913867;ThickAsThieves;Once fused to a female, the males will reach sexual maturity, developing large testicles as their other organs atrophy. This process allows for sperm to be in constant supply when the female produces an egg, so that the chimeric fish is able to have a greater number of offspring." 400773;1385913896;nubbins`;sick 400774;1385913903;nubbins`;nature, hey? 400775;1385913948;nubbins`;some of the s.mg heraldry is based on angler fish 400776;1385913998;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves it appears in humans too, usually in cases when homozygotal twins resorb into one single individual 400777;1385914020;mircea_popescu;you get people with kidneys from one dna line and blood/liver/brain etc from another dna line 400778;1385914036;mircea_popescu;then they donate a kidney to a family member and the result is fulminant transplant rejection 400779;1385914082;mircea_popescu;also occasionally problematic in sports. 400780;1385914085;mircea_popescu;;;google Foekje Dillema 400781;1385914086;gribble;Foekje Dillema - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Foekje Dillema :: English summary: ; Foekje Dillema :: was hermafrodiet: 400782;1385914113;nubbins`;ah, you beat me to it 400783;1385914175;nubbins`;"Similar situations in modern sporting are referred to as the 'Dillema Dilemma' in honor of the late Dutch track and field star" 400784;1385914227;nubbins`;j/k, but it should be so ;( 400785;1385914237;mircea_popescu;lol 400786;1385914260;nubbins`;http://dailycurrant.com/2013/11/30/woman-kills-three-for-last-x-box-at-chicago-wal-mart/ 400787;1385914266;mircea_popescu;win. 400788;1385914281;ystarnaud;meh... chicago 400789;1385914282;nubbins`;someone i know shared that link on facebook with a big "what's wrong with people@! consumerism etc!" rant 400790;1385914297;nubbins`;i'm waiting for someone else to point out that it's obviously a parody news site 400791;1385914298;ystarnaud;its like a 3rd world country inside the US over there 400792;1385914318;nubbins`;According to Wal-Mart, America’s largest retailer, the company admits that over 5,000 shoppers will be killed at their stores this Holiday season. “We include people killed from Thanksgiving to Christmas, so it’s not like they are all dying in one day. Besides, more kids will die making this junk than they do buying it, we see that as a positive,” Wal-Mart Spokesman Charlie Hass told the He 400793;1385914328;ystarnaud;lol 400794;1385914349;ystarnaud;you know what its probably not far from the truth :P 400795;1385914354;ystarnaud;people are insane 400796;1385914369;ystarnaud;save a life shop online lol 400797;1385914388;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 91 @ 0.00327 = 0.2976 BTC [-] {2} 400798;1385914423;ystarnaud;AM still around the 0.3 mark i see... guess it could be worse 400799;1385914449;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.32579437 BTC [+] 400800;1385914488;ThickAsThieves;could be about .3 worse ;) 400801;1385914496;ystarnaud;yup lol 400802;1385914569;mircea_popescu;http://bitcoin.sipa.be/speed-small-lin-ever.png 400803;1385914570;ystarnaud;i havent checked the news much lately but hopefully friedcat is gonna release something awesome soon 400804;1385914571;mircea_popescu;not relenting. 400805;1385914619;ystarnaud;yeah... 400806;1385914763;nubbins`;well ya know. you shop online, and you're just condemning some poor guy in an amazon fulfillment warehouse to the same trampling death 400807;1385914766;ThickAsThieves;for reals, like 1PH in a week? 400808;1385914769;nubbins`;they work on quotas ya know! 400809;1385914835;nubbins`;http://apps.npr.org/tshirt/#/title 400810;1385914849;thestringpuller;we pullin petahashes now? 400811;1385914857;nubbins`;following a t-shirt from cotton fields to your torso 400812;1385914867;thestringpuller;i bet nubbin's still has slaves 400813;1385914876;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 86 @ 0.003485 = 0.2997 BTC [+] {2} 400814;1385914883;nubbins`;i'm canadian, we were never subhuman slave drivers 400815;1385914903;nubbins`;anyway, this one cotton farmer they talked to 400816;1385914919;nubbins`;produces 13,000 bales of cotton a year -- enough for 9.4mn t-shirts -- with only 13 workers 400817;1385914922;thestringpuller;"Swwwiiiing low. Sweeeeet charrriot" 400818;1385914937;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 87 @ 0.00352758 = 0.3069 BTC [+] {2} 400819;1385914938;thestringpuller;"Comin to carrrry meeeee hoooome." 400820;1385914944;truffles;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Canada 400821;1385914944;ozbot;Slavery in Canada - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 400822;1385914998;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.32589999 BTC [+] 400823;1385914999;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 102 @ 0.00353872 = 0.3609 BTC [+] {3} 400824;1385915034;nubbins`;"Slavery within Canada's current geography was practised primarily by Aboriginal groups." 400825;1385915037;nubbins`;nice try truffles 400826;1385915045;thestringpuller;lololol 400827;1385915055;truffles;in Canada 400828;1385915059;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3259 BTC [+] 400829;1385915067;truffles;so theyre not real Canadians? 400830;1385915082;KRS|gotyawallet;I think that was Somalia. 400831;1385915096;nubbins`;truffles: why don't you ask them? 400832;1385915099;nubbins`;you might be surprised 400833;1385915131;truffles;read the next paragraph 400834;1385915222;nubbins`;no 400835;1385915242;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 107 @ 0.00346308 = 0.3705 BTC [-] {3} 400836;1385915243;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3259 BTC [+] 400837;1385915247;nubbins`;fuck, i accidentally just ate lunch 400838;1385915257;truffles;Because early Canada's role in the trans-Atlantic slave trade was so minor, the history of slavery in Canada is often overshadowed by the more tumultuous slavery practised elsewhere in the Americas... 400839;1385915261;nubbins`;was supposed to meet p for lunch in a half hour D: 400840;1385915262;truffles;is the point, that is all 400841;1385915303;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 397 @ 0.00349127 = 1.386 BTC [+] {7} 400842;1385915318;nubbins`;sounds like a bunch of euros moved to canada and bought 2nd hand slaves from the yanquis 400843;1385915335;nubbins`;i still see no evidence of canadians owning slaves 400844;1385915360;Diablo-D3;>2nd hand slaves 400845;1385915364;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.3259 = 0.6518 BTC [+] 400846;1385915368;Diablo-D3;would make a great name for a heavy metal band 400847;1385915373;mircea_popescu;no true scottsman. 400848;1385915393;thestringpuller;http://i.imgur.com/hvP9uLn.jpg - damn autocorrect 400849;1385915415;pankkake;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67547.msg3790179#msg3790179 wut 400850;1385915435;nubbins`;no TRUE canadian ;) 400851;1385915440;nubbins`;anyway, i'm just playing semantics 400852;1385915449;nubbins`;but you're not canadian unless you were born here 400853;1385915479;ThickAsThieves;maybe Gox bought the forums 400854;1385915489;ThickAsThieves;they own bitcoins.com right? 400855;1385915493;nubbins`;rubber ball seats for everyone? 400856;1385915503;ThickAsThieves;lol 400857;1385915525;nubbins`;i wonder if i could find a black polo shirt big enough to fit over one of those balls 400858;1385915547;ThickAsThieves;Mt Gox ~ We Eat Pizza for Breakfast 400859;1385915730;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.32599779 BTC [+] 400860;1385915749;KRS|gotyawallet;All I want for Christmas is...To talk like Mark Karpelestthhesthhh 400861;1385916645;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3190001 BTC [-] 400862;1385916797;ThickAsThieves;Havelock hot wallet still empty :/ 400863;1385916898;pankkake;hacked! 400864;1385916909;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves gox had been hosting the forum forever. 400865;1385917124;thestringpuller;Havelock got hacked? 400866;1385917172;pankkake;they're just lazy and don't work weekends 400867;1385917305;thestringpuller;we should meet in limones sometime pankkake 400868;1385917314;thestringpuller;get some wine and toast to retirement 400869;1385917341;ThickAsThieves;thestringpuller, you retire on 3btc? ;) 400870;1385917368;thestringpuller;>:( 400871;1385917374;thestringpuller;3btc is what I ipo on foo 400872;1385917377;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.32 BTC [+] 400873;1385917378;thestringpuller;"ipo" 400874;1385917494;truffles;nice zing 400875;1385917658;thestringpuller;buuuuuuuuuurn 400876;1385917670;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/proper-accounting-for-stock-warrants/ 400877;1385917671;ozbot;Proper accounting for stock warrants pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 400878;1385917671;mircea_popescu;davout ^ 400879;1385917682;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.0033 = 0.165 BTC [-] 400880;1385917865;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 106 @ 0.00330283 = 0.3501 BTC [+] {2} 400881;1385917926;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3259 BTC [+] 400882;1385918353;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.14000001 = 0.84 BTC [-] {3} 400883;1385919268;assbot;[MPEX] [O] [O.USD.C050T] 1000 @ 0.05294401 = 52.944 BTC 400884;1385919313;thestringpuller;lol 400885;1385919318;thestringpuller;is that long? 400886;1385919390;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.14000001 = 0.28 BTC [-] 400887;1385919429;thestringpuller;;;calc (1000 - 50) / 1000 400888;1385919429;gribble;0.95 400889;1385919451;assbot;[MPEX] [O] [O.USD.C050T] 1000 @ 0.05293372 = 52.9337 BTC [-] 400890;1385919505;thestringpuller;mircea_popescu: lot changed to 0.1? so divide by another 10? 400891;1385919508;thestringpuller;;;calc (1000 - 50) / 100 400892;1385919508;gribble;9.5 400893;1385919518;thestringpuller;;;calc (1000 - 50) / 10000 400894;1385919519;gribble;0.095 400895;1385919521;mircea_popescu;yeah, this is short btc exposure 400896;1385919533;thestringpuller;how do I calculate exercise prices based on new lot 400897;1385919534;mircea_popescu;$avg 400898;1385919534;thestringpuller;i'm dumb 400899;1385919534;mpexbot;mircea_popescu: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. 400900;1385919539;mircea_popescu;;;ticker 400901;1385919540;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1092.40231, Best ask: 1092.40242, Bid-ask spread: 0.00011, Last trade: 1092.40231, 24 hour volume: 36457.52461371, 24 hour low: 1063.0, 24 hour high: 1225.24904, 24 hour vwap: 1145.15858 400902;1385919542;thestringpuller;;;bc,24hprc 400903;1385919543;gribble;Error: Failed to retrieve data. Try again later. 400904;1385919558;mircea_popescu;;;calc (114.51 - 50) / 114.51 400905;1385919559;gribble;0.56335691206 400906;1385919564;thestringpuller;okay there we go 400907;1385919592;thestringpuller;wait what is the bot quoting from if btc-charts is down? 400908;1385919603;mircea_popescu;it;s not down 400909;1385919633;dexX7;;;goxlag 400910;1385919635;gribble;MtGox lag is 7.746001 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0155228992755 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin one full loop along the orbit of the Moon around Earth (0.016 AU). 400911;1385919720;mircea_popescu;also actual avg is 1057.09 400912;1385919725;mircea_popescu;i dunno wtf gribs is on about. 400913;1385920305;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 500 @ 0.0004 = 0.2 BTC [+] 400914;1385920366;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.32599989 = 0.978 BTC [+] 400915;1385920427;assbot;[MPEX] [O] [O.USD.C050T] 1000 @ 0.05280992 = 52.8099 BTC [-] 400916;1385920549;assbot;[MPEX] [O] [O.USD.C050T] 1000 @ 0.05280992 = 52.8099 BTC [-] 400917;1385920610;assbot;[MPEX] [O] [O.USD.C050T] 1000 @ 0.05280992 = 52.8099 BTC [-] 400918;1385920665;jcpham;btcavg or stamp iirc on gribble 400919;1385920682;jcpham;most otc trades go by stamp these days 400920;1385920706;jcpham;;;ticker 400921;1385920706;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1070.0, Best ask: 1070.63, Bid-ask spread: 0.63000, Last trade: 1070.63, 24 hour volume: 37259.10340799, 24 hour low: 1063.0, 24 hour high: 1225.24904, 24 hour vwap: 1143.32597 400922;1385920717;jcpham;;;ticker --market bitstamp 400923;1385920719;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 950.62, Best ask: 950.74, Bid-ask spread: 0.12000, Last trade: 950.74, 24 hour volume: 26816.23380908, 24 hour low: 950.56, 24 hour high: 1147.27, 24 hour vwap: 1036.54927537 400924;1385920726;jcpham;;;ticker --market btcavg 400925;1385920727;gribble;BitcoinAverage BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 965.6, Best ask: 967.33, Bid-ask spread: 1.73000, Last trade: 965.76, 24 hour volume: 96761.63, 24 hour low: None, 24 hour high: None, 24 hour vwap: 1081.02 400926;1385920755;jcpham;nope i'm wrong still gox by default 400927;1385920976;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.14000001 = 0.28 BTC [-] 400928;1385921159;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00079394 = 7.6218 BTC [+] {2} 400929;1385921171;nubbins`;stock warrants, interesting instruments 400930;1385921240;thestringpuller;wow someone is hedging against the price plummeting 400931;1385921281;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.32599989 BTC [+] 400932;1385921378;nubbins`;i'm curious to see what s.mg is gonna look like this time next year 400933;1385921410;thestringpuller;doesn't that depend on it's income? 400934;1385921470;ThickAsThieves;probly depends more on its output 400935;1385921519;thestringpuller;lol vidya games 400936;1385921523;thestringpuller;i'ma go buy a ps4 400937;1385921547;Duffer1;hi stringpuller how's cookies doing? 400938;1385921548;nubbins`;remember when running linux was touted as a feature for the ps3 400939;1385921553;nubbins`;then sony said lel jk 400940;1385921581;thestringpuller;Wassup Duffer1 we liquidated the holdings cause the chef would rather do media, than cookies. 400941;1385921589;thestringpuller;we can talk about that in pm tho 400942;1385921626;nubbins`;thestringpuller: i meant as a company in general, not just the price 400943;1385921638;nubbins`;although that will be interesting to watch as well 400944;1385922074;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.32599989 BTC [+] 400945;1385922196;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 400 @ 0.0004 = 0.16 BTC [+] 400946;1385922379;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17600 @ 0.00079382 = 13.9712 BTC [-] 400947;1385922806;assbot;[MPEX] [O] [O.USD.C050T] 1000 @ 0.05245791 = 52.4579 BTC [-] 400948;1385923050;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15500 @ 0.00079553 = 12.3307 BTC [+] {2} 400949;1385923172;assbot;[MPEX] [O] [O.USD.C050T] 1000 @ 0.05240216 = 52.4022 BTC [-] 400950;1385923538;assbot;[MPEX] [O] [O.USD.C050T] 443 @ 0.05232243 = 23.1788 BTC [-] 400951;1385923777;bloctoc;balls 400952;1385923969;thestringpuller;!ticker m ^OIX 400953;1385923970;assbot;[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / / ( shares, BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC) 400954;1385924758;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 7 @ 0.03 = 0.21 BTC [-] 400955;1385925180;ThickAsThieves;;;ticker 400956;1385925191;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 966.84577, Best ask: 975.0, Bid-ask spread: 8.15423, Last trade: 975.0, 24 hour volume: 44723.96494695, 24 hour low: 955.0, 24 hour high: 1225.24904, 24 hour vwap: 1121.83431 400957;1385925231;thestringpuller;there is no bottom bound :( 400958;1385925349;thestringpuller;;;ticker --bitsamp 400959;1385925351;thestringpuller;;;ticker --bitstamp 400960;1385925366;gribble;(ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market |all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Mtgox. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure (1 more message) 400961;1385925367;gribble;(ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market |all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Mtgox. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure (1 more message) 400962;1385925561;FabianB;;;ticker --market all 400963;1385925571;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD last: 1022.0, vol: 46025.26721689 | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 930.0, vol: 36417.55084220 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 820.0, vol: 35422.39654 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 924.0001, vol: 7488.37845752 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 754.0, vol: 247.34388967 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 1033.83, vol: 79580.06000000 | Volume-weighted last average: 971.486281257 400964;1385925643;pankkake;https://likeinamirror.wordpress.com/2013/12/01/satoshi-nakamoto-is-probably-nick-szabo/ 400965;1385925644;ozbot;Satoshi Nakamoto is (probably) Nick Szabo | LikeInAMirror 400966;1385925978;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.323002 BTC [-] 400967;1385925979;Jere_Jones;I would be so disappointed if Satoshi's real name is... Nick. 400968;1385926394;bloctoc;The US State Department probably plagiarized that guys paper while launching bitcoin 400969;1385926893;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15680 @ 0.00079312 = 12.4361 BTC [-] {3} 400970;1385926998;KRS|gotyawallet;bet that 400971;1385927098;bloctoc;are you talking to me? if so, I think I need some language that can be verified in order to meet the rigorous bitbet.us standards. 400972;1385927247;bloctoc;on or before January 1, 2015 Financial Times of London will confirm that Department of State in conjunction with MI6 plagiarized Nick Szabo and other cryptography papers to publish the bitcoin white paper. 400973;1385927258;KRS|gotyawallet;yes 400974;1385927320;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.15499999 BTC [+] 400975;1385927532;pankkake;bitcointalk really down now? 400976;1385927585;Duffer1;it's been incredibly slow for me past couple days 400977;1385927929;thestringpuller;you can only make bets extended 1 year 400978;1385927936;thestringpuller;so i don't think you could do january 2015 400979;1385928667;thestringpuller;;;ticker 400980;1385928667;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 928.0, Best ask: 930.0, Bid-ask spread: 2.00000, Last trade: 928.0, 24 hour volume: 52253.23241677, 24 hour low: 930.0, 24 hour high: 1224.0, 24 hour vwap: 1097.5269 400981;1385928723;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00203 = 0.203 BTC [+] 400982;1385928866;KRS|gotyawallet;;;asks 800 400983;1385928866;gribble;There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 800.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 200.0130 seconds 400984;1385928906;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9848 @ 0.00079119 = 7.7916 BTC [-] {2} 400985;1385928921;thestringpuller;;;asks 900 400986;1385928926;gribble;There are currently 81.995016 bitcoins offered at or under 900.0 USD, worth 73795.514517 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.1473 seconds 400987;1385928936;thestringpuller;geeze what's causing this? 400988;1385928965;FabianB;huge coin drops 400989;1385929069;FabianB;s/o cashing out 500 btc batches 400990;1385929084;Duffer1;s/o? 400991;1385929109;FabianB;someone 400992;1385929115;Duffer1;ah 400993;1385929159;bloctoc;I suppose bitpay has some risk from yesterday to lay offf 400994;1385929687;dexX7;;;goxlag 400995;1385929689;gribble;MtGox lag is 15.335524 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0307322183909 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Earth and Moon (0.0257 AU). 400996;1385930355;dexX7;;;goxlag 400997;1385930356;gribble;MtGox lag is 5.871318 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0117660555334 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter to its second largest moon, Callisto (0.012567 AU). 400998;1385930862;benkay;;;ticker --market all 400999;1385930898;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD last: 944.99, vol: 63210.92916600 | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 869.0, vol: 51848.42502675 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 790.289, vol: 49325.45561 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 860.1, vol: 10806.73683434 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 781.02, vol: 0 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 978.6924, vol: 86370.68500000 | Volume-weighted last average: 908.374837398 401000;1385931041;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.30801667 = 3.6962 BTC [-] {4} 401001;1385931224;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 315 @ 0.00324123 = 1.021 BTC [-] {5} 401002;1385931346;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 500 @ 0.00320575 = 1.6029 BTC [-] {8} 401003;1385931407;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 105 @ 0.0032 = 0.336 BTC [-] {2} 401004;1385931468;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.32497979 BTC [+] 401005;1385931925;davout;:/clear 401006;1385931938;davout;shit, this is not vi x) 401007;1385932017;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 400 @ 0.0032 = 1.28 BTC [-] {2} 401008;1385932139;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.155 = 0.31 BTC [+] 401009;1385932564;benkay;so who are the new scamchange contenders? 401010;1385932586;davout;benkay: howso? 401011;1385932661;benkay;well btctc shut down, and picostocks, and crypto whatever 401012;1385932673;benkay;scammers gonna scam 401013;1385932680;benkay;so where are the new exchanges? 401014;1385932686;davout;mpex, failing last. draw the dots 401015;1385932692;benkay;wat 401016;1385932698;davout;argh. connect the dots 401017;1385932717;benkay;i'm aware there's competence in the space, i'm asking where the incompetence is gravitating towards. 401018;1385932726;benkay;towards 401019;1385932783;bloctoc;benkay - I moved from Ripple to Mastercoin a few days ago. I rode Satoshi Dice from 70 to 17, so I think I have some credibility to gravitate to what you're asking about. 401020;1385932797;kakobrekla;lol 401021;1385932798;davout;lol 401022;1385932799;kakobrekla;!b3 401023;1385932806;assbot;Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1489499/plain/) 401024;1385932806;kakobrekla;!b 4 401025;1385932869;kakobrekla;shit, needs more context 401026;1385932872;assbot;Last 10 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1489500/plain/) 401027;1385932872;kakobrekla;!b 10 401028;1385932949;davout;so apparently someone accidentally enabled cloudflare for btctalk 401029;1385932952;benkay;anyways. question is: where are all of the new buttcoin fartups initializing their public oopses? 401030;1385932956;davout;working for anyone here? 401031;1385932996;kakobrekla;benkay, ill be doing panacea soon! 401032;1385932997;benkay;davout: nope. that's why i'm asking -assets where the new fleecing operations are taking place instead of browsing btctalk. 401033;1385933025;jurov`;craptostocks still there 401034;1385933025;pankkake;my guess next fail is https://www.litecoininvest.com/ / https://btcinve.com/ 401035;1385933030;jcpham;maybe the bitcoin investing subreddit? 401036;1385933075;pankkake;https://crypto-trade.com/tradex/ipo lol at having ipo in url for all securities 401037;1385933087;ozbot;Crypto-Trade | Bitcoin Exchange, Namecoin Exchange, Litecoin Exchange, Primecoin Exchange, BTC Excha 401038;1385933120;kakobrekla;silver member! no futher questions. 401039;1385933176;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13206 @ 0.00079369 = 10.4815 BTC [+] {2} 401040;1385933280;bloctoc;rate kakobrekla -5 posting in channel comments out of context to the web for search engines 401041;1385933298;bloctoc;;;rate kakobrekla -5 posting in channel comments out of context to the web for search engines 401042;1385933298;kakobrekla;:( 401043;1385933299;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of -5 for user kakobrekla has been recorded. 401044;1385933346;kakobrekla;mah perfect record ruined! 401045;1385933480;bloctoc;as is mine 401046;1385933497;kakobrekla;hm? 401047;1385933502;kakobrekla;;;getrating bloctoc 401048;1385933503;gribble;Use the gettrust command instead. See http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/OTC_Rating_System#Relying_on_the_rating 401049;1385933507;kakobrekla;stupid gribble 401050;1385933511;kakobrekla;;;gettrust bloctoc 401051;1385933511;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask bloctoc!~bloctoc@50.168.9.127. Trust relationship from user kakobrekla to user bloctoc: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=kakobrekla&dest=bloctoc | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=bloctoc | Rated since: Tue Oct 29 20:18:14 2013 401052;1385933534;kakobrekla;i dont see anything wrong there 401053;1385933542;bloctoc;http://dpaste.com/1489500/plain/ 401054;1385933591;kakobrekla;emm dude, this is a logged chan with public access to logs 401055;1385933601;kakobrekla;says so on the front door. 401056;1385933622;bloctoc;logs have context 401057;1385933624;kakobrekla;not sure if you dont know or trolling? 401058;1385933660;pankkake;quoting out of context is half the fun of quotes 401059;1385933668;kakobrekla;i think you should fix your rating on me with "kako bashed me, im butthurt" 401060;1385933694;bloctoc;;;rate kakobrekla -5 kako bashed me, im butthurt 401061;1385933695;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating for user kakobrekla has changed from -5 to -5. 401062;1385933711;kakobrekla;more appropriate 401063;1385933786;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10869 @ 0.00079254 = 8.6141 BTC [-] {2} 401064;1385933847;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1063 @ 0.00078987 = 0.8396 BTC [-] 401065;1385934127;dub;monday is for drama 401066;1385934163;benkay;whatchoo mean? 401067;1385934227;dub;price drama 401068;1385934231;dub;-assets drama 401069;1385934261;dub;internets drama 401070;1385934306;benkay;the bitcoin engine needs moar drama fuel 401071;1385934312;benkay;price not rocket to moon fast enough 401072;1385934363;davout;pankkake: true 401073;1385934451;bloctoc;;;rate kakobrekla 1 dividends 401074;1385934453;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating for user kakobrekla has changed from -5 to 1. 401075;1385934511;kakobrekla;i deny everything 401076;1385934693;jurov`;orly, dividends 401077;1385934731;jurov`;;;calc 10000 * 0.0005 401078;1385934731;gribble;5 401079;1385935372;jurov`;benkay: blame thermos, no trolltalk, no drama 401080;1385935597;Vexual;did someone say drama? 401081;1385935781;jurov`;i said *no* drama 401082;1385935806;Vexual;stupid computer, I told it to wake me if there was any drama. 401083;1385935853;jurov`;change it to trigger on amazing 401084;1385935853;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 401085;1385935857;Vexual;didnt even put the coffee on 401086;1385935873;truffles;what drama 401087;1385935902;jurov`;lol truffles is another? 401088;1385935915;truffles;im asking 401089;1385935932;benkay;dem females. 401090;1385935942;truffles;which females? 401091;1385935955;truffles;hints no bueno 401092;1385935980;jurov`;just some addicts that have "drama" trigger wired to wake them and brew coffee 401093;1385936006;truffles;i have tough decision here 401094;1385936010;truffles;tea or alcohol.. 401095;1385936019;jurov`;maybe even automatic intravenous drug administration 401096;1385936110;truffles;another tough decision, my nut wont crack 401097;1385936147;truffles;nm crisis averted 401098;1385936195;truffles;so guys looks like bitcoin is on a spiral 401099;1385936219;Vexual;psychiadellic nuts? 401100;1385936232;truffles;no wai man, drugs r bad mmmkk 401101;1385936424;Vexual;hallucinating for no reason is worse 401102;1385936447;truffles;thats when u give urself a pick me up smack 401103;1385936497;Vexual;youre eating nuts and smacking yourself? and hallucinating? 401104;1385936523;truffles;0.o 401105;1385936579;Vexual;I picture you as niles standish 401106;1385936596;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LigvRPEiY28 401107;1385936596;ozbot;Crank Yankers Niles Standish Hires A Receptionist - YouTube 401108;1385936616;truffles;im fking cool then 401109;1385936678;nubbins`;lel @ benkay 401110;1385936683;nubbins`;Initial Public Oops 401111;1385936691;nubbins`;maybe the best yet 401112;1385936775;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11400 @ 0.00079067 = 9.0136 BTC [+] {2} 401113;1385936814;Vexual;what about intentinally providing 0? 401114;1385936862;nubbins`;what about i had too many nachos and beer and now i feel ill? 401115;1385936886;dub;hao aboot Internally Penetrating Organ 401116;1385936909;truffles;what kind of cheese?` 401117;1385936922;nubbins`;cheddar/mozza blend 401118;1385936928;dub;proper american chese, out of a can 401119;1385936933;nubbins`;banana peppers too 401120;1385936943;truffles;can yuck 401121;1385936957;nubbins`;american cheese is fucking great 401122;1385936962;truffles;puke 401123;1385936965;nubbins`;but you can't buy it in stores here 401124;1385936966;Duffer1;cheeze whiz lol 401125;1385936982;nubbins`;you can buy foot-long slices at restaurant supply stores, that's it 401126;1385936996;truffles;how have i not heard of banana peppers! 401127;1385937008;nubbins`;so basically if you want american cheese you gotta go eat fast/restaurant food :( 401128;1385937010;truffles;but i eat chilli all the time .. 401129;1385937019;nubbins`;banana peppers are great 401130;1385937021;nubbins`;very flavorful 401131;1385937034;dub;in other drama, paulk walker rip 401132;1385937038;nubbins`;you can get em in big jars of brine 401133;1385937052;nubbins`;Duffer1: cheese whiz on rice is actually really good. 401134;1385937053;davout;< nubbins`> american cheese is fucking great <--- ahem 401135;1385937068;nubbins`;heh 401136;1385937077;nubbins`;figured that'd draw comment 401137;1385937077;Duffer1;that stuff is evil 401138;1385937077;truffles;dub's he's one good looking dude 401139;1385937083;dub;was 401140;1385937087;davout;nubbins`: i bit 401141;1385937091;jurov`;i heard american cheese is reusable 401142;1385937094;dub;now he's a crispy critter 401143;1385937104;truffles;oh so it was him.. 401144;1385937105;nubbins`;jurov, like it comes out the same when you're done eating it? 401145;1385937107;davout;some american stuff is really good though and is hardly found where i live for obscure reasons 401146;1385937110;dub;jurov`: its recycled for sure 401147;1385937120;davout;try to get some bacon in france 401148;1385937123;jurov`;yes, like that. just don't mix it with other stuff 401149;1385937132;nubbins`;davout: i mean like the classic american burger cheese. not sure if it's processed cheddar or w/e 401150;1385937139;nubbins`;but it's just not available in groc stores here 401151;1385937146;nubbins`;only restaurants 401152;1385937149;davout;nubbins`: where do you live ? 401153;1385937153;nubbins`;eastern canada 401154;1385937154;truffles;whyd u want that anyways.. 401155;1385937174;dub;its cheddar that they've removed any flavour from 401156;1385937178;nubbins`;heh 401157;1385937192;nubbins`;yeah, you'd have to age it for years to give it the flavor of cheddar 401158;1385937198;nubbins`;it's basically texture slices 401159;1385937209;davout;nubbins`: it's weird, you'd think the geographical proximity would make the same kind of stuff available in stores... 401160;1385937217;nubbins`;yeah, market size, i guess 401161;1385937220;dub;its low quality plastic that the chinese didnt want 401162;1385937245;nubbins`;lot of times it just comes down to the fact that it's not worth importing 401163;1385937263;nubbins`;canadian population is what, 10% of american 401164;1385937291;Vexual;chinese dont eat cheese 401165;1385937301;nubbins`;lactose intolerance is much more common in asia 401166;1385937305;davout;nubbins`: no but i mean sometimes you really wonder, because the stuff can be produced locally quite easily as well 401167;1385937311;davout;for example bacon in france 401168;1385937312;nubbins`;davout, too true 401169;1385937322;nubbins`;pigs have the same parts over there, afaik ;) 401170;1385937332;nubbins`;you could probably request it from a butcher 401171;1385937339;davout;when going to the stores you will find exactly 0 bacon packs 401172;1385937344;dub;they probably get more to eat than just antibiotics however 401173;1385937349;nubbins`;^ 401174;1385937351;davout;or shitty super thin stuff, but no fucking bacon 401175;1385937362;nubbins`;there's a butcher by my house that sells bacon by the slice 401176;1385937367;nubbins`;freshly cut off the hog 401177;1385937380;davout;bacon is awesome, it'd sell. i can't make sense out of this lack of bacon 401178;1385937395;davout;nubbins`: i guess that'd work 401179;1385937398;nubbins`;well, maybe the cuts of meat that are popular there just don't allow for bacon 401180;1385937401;truffles;maybe they like not being fat 401181;1385937413;davout;nubbins`: ahhhh, that would make a lot of sense 401182;1385937422;nubbins`;different cultures chop their animals different ways 401183;1385937458;nubbins`;like a t-bone steak isn't generally available as a cut of meat in some places 401184;1385937468;dub;I have some pork in the freezer that has eaten mostly pinot grapes 401185;1385937471;nubbins`;ooh 401186;1385937472;davout;but, come on, fucking bacon, it's not like there's a single hog and you have to make a difficult decision about the way you're going to cut it up :-) 401187;1385937482;nubbins`;davout, too true 401188;1385937489;nubbins`;is there at least thick-cut pork belly? 401189;1385937493;dub;raised on friends vinyard 401190;1385937507;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 0.10999995 = 0.22 BTC [+] {2} 401191;1385937509;nubbins`;i've got a huge piece of moose in my freezer 401192;1385937513;truffles;start ur own pig farm with bacon cuts 401193;1385937518;nubbins`;considering grinding it 401194;1385937532;nubbins`;maybe make moose donairs 401195;1385937593;truffles;that looks good! 401196;1385937618;nubbins`;donairs or moose? 401197;1385937625;truffles;donairs 401198;1385937631;nubbins`;they're great 401199;1385937641;nubbins`;nothing like a halifax-style donair 401200;1385937653;truffles;of course moose tastes like beef to me.. 401201;1385937662;nubbins`;nod, a bit spicier 401202;1385937690;nubbins`;great for stews 401203;1385937702;davout;nubbins`: yes there is 401204;1385937703;nubbins`;it's a bit lean for some cooking methods 401205;1385937715;truffles;nice way to get out some aggression while cooking 401206;1385937716;nubbins`;davout: maybe a ncie shawarma 401207;1385937735;nubbins`;truffles: fuck mallets, i tenderize with my fists 401208;1385937799;truffles;evoporated milk thats one sweet meal 401209;1385937823;davout;"mallets", i fucking love this word 401210;1385937861;nubbins`;the sauce is divine 401211;1385937873;truffles;rather use it for desserts 401212;1385937875;nubbins`;just garlic, milk, sugar, salt, vinegar 401213;1385937875;davout;"They brought forth scintillating jeweled scuttling crabs, which the Vogons ate, smashing them with large iron mallets" 401214;1385937878;nubbins`;so thick, so sweet 401215;1385937884;nubbins`;too garlicky for desserts 401216;1385937890;truffles;the milk 401217;1385937896;nubbins`;ah 401218;1385937898;nubbins`;heh 401219;1385937920;nubbins`;ideally you can take a bowl of the sauce and hold it upside down without losing any 401220;1385937934;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 300 @ 0.00320001 = 0.96 BTC [-] {3} 401221;1385937938;Vexual;whisked or fisted nubs? 401222;1385937940;nubbins`;that's how you tell when you've added enough vinegar 401223;1385937952;nubbins`;sauce is whisked, i don't like sticky hands 401224;1385937956;truffles;def skip sauce, will try the meat method 401225;1385937971;nubbins`;some recipes call for triple-ground, this is not necessary 401226;1385937983;nubbins`;at least try a small batch of the sauce, it's worth the risk 401227;1385938010;Vexual;I like to imagine you with no kitchen utensils but your fists, making fancy recipies 401228;1385938019;nubbins`;heh! 401229;1385938056;Vexual;it would make a hilarious cooking show 401230;1385938066;Vexual;dead moose lying therew 401231;1385938080;Vexual;big frnch chefs hat 401232;1385938092;davout;Vexual: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IdCwtIijOA 401233;1385938099;Vexual;and now for the nishiew shwaqrma 401234;1385938121;nubbins`;https://www.cfa.harvard.edu/~gpetitpas/Links/Donair.html 401235;1385938122;ozbot;All things Donair: Halifax Donair Sauce, Donair Meat, Donair Subs, Donair Pizza Recipes (And Garlic 401236;1385938132;nubbins`;^ best recipe 401237;1385938158;nubbins`;thyme fans can feel free to add 1tsp of that as well 401238;1385938212;nubbins`;using a broiler pan is VERY IMPORTANT 401239;1385938212;Vexual;and then into a medium hot oven for about 45 minutes... but it's really just the kitchen cupboard doors you have removed with your fists and are buring in a pile on the bench 401240;1385938220;nubbins`;hah 401241;1385938242;nubbins`;making butter, etc 401242;1385938281;dub;language is funny 401243;1385938297;dub;your donair is a donner kebab most everywhere else 401244;1385938333;truffles;they've made it canadian style 401245;1385938361;nubbins`;nod 401246;1385938379;dub;now with added moosecock 401247;1385938415;nubbins`;what's odd is that places with good donairs are usually greek-owned 401248;1385938452;kakobrekla;meh donner 401249;1385938469;nubbins`;but they don't call em gyros 401250;1385938470;kakobrekla;i prefer gyros 401251;1385938475;kakobrekla;he 401252;1385938483;kakobrekla;its different 401253;1385938485;nubbins`;hah, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doner_kebab#Canada 401254;1385938518;Vexual;if you don't have a rotissary, i find you can use your fists 401255;1385938528;truffles;blow torch is used in this donner method sick 401256;1385938550;kakobrekla;meh fu 401257;1385938553;kakobrekla;now im hungry 401258;1385938565;nubbins`;nah they use the side-bake things here 401259;1385938570;truffles;yea i want a gyro 401260;1385938572;Vexual;all these fat bastards drooling on their keyboards! 401261;1385938581;kakobrekla;im not fat! 401262;1385938585;kakobrekla;just big bonned 401263;1385938721;Vexual;its not drool 401264;1385938765;kakobrekla;semen? 401265;1385938774;Vexual;mmmm fist bacon 401266;1385938875;Vexual;I'm a salami man myself 401267;1385938918;Vexual;bacon just doesnt keep very well 401268;1385938943;truffles;freezer? 401269;1385939062;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucPGu6XK8b8 401270;1385939063;ozbot;Richard and Sal "hold everything" pizza prank call - YouTube 401271;1385939240;Vexual;hey nubs, is moose gut any good for sausage skin? 401272;1385939263;Vexual;they must have a voluminous shit chute 401273;1385939451;Vexual;http://www.oldcrow.ca/recipe8.htm fuck yeah 401274;1385939524;dexX7;;;goxlag 401275;1385939525;gribble;MtGox lag is 180.909868 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.362541349904 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mercury (0.39 AU). 401276;1385939527;Vexual;i gotta get me to canadia one of these days 401277;1385939596;dexX7;do you store a goxlag history? 401278;1385939606;dexX7;well, it's in the logs.. 401279;1385939631;jurov`;hmm, bitcoinity says no lag. or < 5s. 401280;1385939644;dexX7;;;goxlag 401281;1385939646;gribble;MtGox lag is 1.446068 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00289790408102 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter to its third largest moon, Io (0.002819 AU). 401282;1385939669;truffles;oh look upswing 401283;1385939669;jurov`;mtgox is faster than light 401284;1385939678;dub;bacon keeps fine 401285;1385939686;dub;just resalt and hang 401286;1385939694;Vexual;u make dub? 401287;1385939695;dexX7;goxlag low, btc-e online again.. probably time to rebuy btc <.<" 401288;1385939717;kakobrekla;http://jezus.si/graf/dashboards/bitcoin/details/lag/ 401289;1385939718;ozbot;Jezus charts and graphs 401290;1385939721;kakobrekla;http://jezus.si:81/render?target=bitcoin.mtgox.lag&height=500&width=1100&lineMode=connected&from=-3months 401291;1385939722;jurov`;trolltak still down 401292;1385939748;dexX7;ah nice, thanks 401293;1385939753;dub;automatic fucks given tracker: 0 401294;1385939760;Vexual;lol 401295;1385939770;Vexual;bacon is the key number here 401296;1385939776;dub;start graphing given fucks plox 401297;1385939786;Vexual;be be be be be be 401298;1385939787;kakobrekla;hehe 401299;1385939807;dub;in fact i'll do it for you |_____________________________________________________________ 401300;1385939830;jurov`;i see, you only receive 401301;1385939841;jurov`;not give 401302;1385939877;dub;outside my control too 401303;1385939886;kakobrekla;rape? 401304;1385939893;dub;i can't stop people caring 401305;1385939913;truffles;?? 401306;1385939920;davout;trolltalk seems to be available, except the DNS records point to cloudflare instead of pointing to the servers IP 401307;1385939952;dub;theymos must be spending the donated billions 401308;1385939959;dub;on free ddos mitigation 401309;1385940007;davout;CloudFlare, getting MITM'd the hipster way 401310;1385940009;pankkake;old ip doesn't work anymore 401311;1385940014;truffles;didnt he put up a reward to resolve this problem? 401312;1385940041;dub;the problem is theymos and it should be solved with a bullet 401313;1385940043;davout;pankkake: what's the old IP? I read something today by theymos saying it should go in the hosts file until the CF shit is under control 401314;1385940050;Vexual;that would hurt profits 401315;1385940062;pankkake;109.201.133.195 - it worked for a while, but now it's totally down 401316;1385940067;kakobrekla;im amazed to what extent ppl go to read that hole 401317;1385940087;truffles;dub thats extreme, ure saying he's the fking it up even with hired help 401318;1385940088;truffles;? 401319;1385940089;davout;kakobrekla: gotta get my fix of mpoe-pr decapitating noobs 401320;1385940094;dub;I needed to talk buttcoin so I hacked my gibson 401321;1385940106;kakobrekla;yeah you are all full of exuses 401322;1385940106;pankkake;I'm starting to reduce my watchinglist, it's becoming hard for my mental sanity 401323;1385940110;dub;truffles: I'm saying he is a fuckup 401324;1385940115;pankkake;removed the french autowatch 401325;1385940122;pankkake;too many people buying whatevercoin for paypal 401326;1385940169;truffles;dub still he seemed cautious so.. 401327;1385940186;davout;pankkake: + my radeon doesn't give me free money derp 401328;1385940295;kakobrekla;eh the numbers are much larger on alt chains 401329;1385940309;kakobrekla;you can get like over 9000 of those. 401330;1385940317;truffles;haha 401331;1385940330;pankkake;the thing is, it's actually true 401332;1385940332;truffles;that will never die in this hosue 401333;1385940334;pankkake;it's not a parody 401334;1385940373;pankkake;and btw one of the most mooning coins is INFINITEcoin 401335;1385940392;truffles;allacoin made my day 401336;1385940404;pankkake;AllahCoin? 401337;1385940413;truffles;i think so 401338;1385940536;truffles;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTbFvjqQHDk 401339;1385940537;ozbot;Muslim armwrestler ALLAHU AKBAR! - YouTube 401340;1385941822;SupernovaeS;Hello folks 401341;1385941839;davout;hi 401342;1385941842;SupernovaeS;What's the talk about 80% of QRK already mined? 401343;1385941845;SupernovaeS;Is it true? 401344;1385941948;thestringpuller;;;ticker 401345;1385941948;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1008.80001, Best ask: 1009.97998, Bid-ask spread: 1.17997, Last trade: 1009.97998, 24 hour volume: 79692.20465001, 24 hour low: 840.32, 24 hour high: 1216.9, 24 hour vwap: 1041.59128 401346;1385941948;assbot;123! 401347;1385941999;benkay;wth assbot 401348;1385942009;pankkake;it's 796 401349;1385942009;assbot;123! 401350;1385942034;benkay;why? 401351;1385942061;assbot; this is a social experiment. thank you for participating, humans. 401352;1385942104;benkay;bitcoin arg 401353;1385942128;assbot;Last 7 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1489603/plain/) 401354;1385942128;davout;!b 7 401355;1385942179;assbot; as you might notice, im not bashble. that would be deviding by zero. 401356;1385942219;assbot; also fukken typos for the turing. 401357;1385942254;davout;awshit- blackhole 401358;1385942287;benkay;assbot can't recurse 401359;1385942294;benkay;what kind of lame ai can't recurse? 401360;1385942308;kakobrekla;its not a bug its a feature 401361;1385942326;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.315 BTC [-] 401362;1385942329;benkay;so i hear on the regular 401363;1385942353;kakobrekla;well maybe you should take that as a sign :D 401364;1385942353;davout;assbot seems to be victim of it's own success 401365;1385942358;kakobrekla;lma 401366;1385942359;kakobrekla;o 401367;1385942387;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.310001 = 0.62 BTC [-] 401368;1385942444;kakobrekla;benkay theres a specific condition somewhere to filter out the trading garbage out 401369;1385942448;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.310001 = 0.62 BTC [-] {2} 401370;1385942458;kakobrekla;as its normally not part of the bash 401371;1385942466;kakobrekla;if it is - you can do it manually 401372;1385942534;kakobrekla;here, more specifically http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?add 401373;1385942567;benkay;yeah, i've put stuff in there 401374;1385942574;kakobrekla;k 401375;1385942886;benkay;thanks for operating assbot/bash/log etc btw 401376;1385942917;kakobrekla;<3 401377;1385942979;benkay;we love you too kako 401378;1385942997;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 97 @ 0.00208 = 0.2018 BTC [+] 401379;1385943097;davout;HAHAHA aw shit 401380;1385943108;davout;btctalk now works 401381;1385943116;davout;"Login temporarily discouraged" 401382;1385943137;kakobrekla;im safe 401383;1385943142;davout;this is priceless 401384;1385943181;davout;also apparently thermos doesn't know session cookies go on the same wire as credentials 401385;1385943187;davout;anyway 401386;1385943241;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 114 @ 0.00208 = 0.2371 BTC [+] 401387;1385943242;Duffer1;how many B does bitcointalk have in donations? 401388;1385943254;davout;>5k i reckon 401389;1385943301;runam0k;so what's the story - hacked again? 401390;1385943340;davout;apparently someone accidentally enabled cloudflare for btctalk ending up, as usual, in drama and lulz 401391;1385943424;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 750 @ 0.002095 = 1.5713 BTC [+] 401392;1385943474;davout;not much details available as far as i know tho 401393;1385943486;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.31902 BTC [+] 401394;1385943492;kakobrekla;NSA tappings 401395;1385943606;benkay;hey kako where are the bitbet monthly statements? mpex says they'll be accessible "on website" - does that mean trilema and not bitbet? 401396;1385943745;benkay;kakobrekla: ^^ 401397;1385943756;kakobrekla;aha ok 401398;1385943757;kakobrekla;so 401399;1385943761;kakobrekla;firstly 401400;1385943773;kakobrekla;that sentence is not included in the contract 401401;1385943776;kakobrekla;secondly 401402;1385943790;benkay;(carefully never said contract) 401403;1385943820;kakobrekla;since mpex is the bitcoin exchange, i assume any vague reference to a website means THE website which is trilema 401404;1385943836;kakobrekla;there is where the statements are 401405;1385943839;kakobrekla;also bitcointalk. 401406;1385943863;benkay;ya well these vague statements 401407;1385943892;kakobrekla;http://trilema.com/category/sbbet/ 401408;1385943893;ozbot;S.BBET pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 401409;1385943908;kakobrekla;hope this helps 401410;1385943997;kakobrekla;this also gets dumped to some bitcointalk thread 401411;1385944002;kakobrekla;not that anyone reads it there. 401412;1385944117;psk_;hı 401413;1385944202;kakobrekla;hi 401414;1385944827;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 33 @ 0.32551147 = 10.7419 BTC [+] {7} 401415;1385945376;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00079603 = 8.5971 BTC [+] 401416;1385946025;nubbins`;vexual, not sure re: moose casings 401417;1385946040;nubbins`;ive only had moose sausage once, but i'd imagine the intestines get left in the field 401418;1385947572;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 8 @ 0.122222 = 0.9778 BTC [+] 401419;1385948121;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.3290999 = 0.6582 BTC [+] {2} 401420;1385948122;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 369 @ 0.00203499 = 0.7509 BTC [-] {2} 401421;1385948171;random_cat;want to borrow 50 LTC 401422;1385948274;random_cat;will pay 2.5 LTC to borrow for 16 days 401423;1385948304;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3291 BTC [+] 401424;1385948312;dub;thats a random request for this chan 401425;1385948365;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 51 @ 0.002035 = 0.1038 BTC [+] {2} 401426;1385948731;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00206749 = 0.1034 BTC [+] {3} 401427;1385949364;dexX7;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1rvgfj/bitcointalk_passwords_captured/ 401428;1385949370;dexX7;"News: If you used your password to login between 06:00 Dec 1 UTC and 20:00 Dec 2 UTC, then your password may have been captured in a man-in-the-middle attack, and you should change your password here and wherever else you used it. If you were only logged in via the "remember me" feature, then you're OK." 401429;1385949372;dexX7;bad joke? 401430;1385949391;benkay;bitcointalk is itself a bad joke 401431;1385949457;Duffer1;i still can't even connect to the site 401432;1385949475;dexX7;same here 401433;1385949870;dub;neat 401434;1385949969;dexX7;dub do you have access to btctalk at the moment? 401435;1385949973;dexX7;can you confirm this msg? 401436;1385950097;dub;no 401437;1385951710;mod6;;;bc,stats 401438;1385951712;gribble;Current Blocks: 272593 | Current Difficulty: 7.074082830514966E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 274175 | Next Difficulty In: 1582 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 8 hours, 53 minutes, and 20 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 882638224.077 | Estimated Percent Change: 24.77069 401439;1385952034;random_cat;i can confirm the message 401440;1385952066;random_cat;but i cannot get anyone to explain how a mitm happens in this situation 401441;1385952178;dexX7;even worse.. how come i cant log into bitcointalk? 401442;1385952684;random_cat;perhaps the exchanges will get their collective shit together and stop relying on bitcointalk as a communication path to the customers 401443;1385952706;Duffer1;which exchanges? 401444;1385952752;dub;random_cat: in what situation? 401445;1385952890;random_cat;dub: logging into an ssl secured website 401446;1385952916;benkay;i for one am amazed that mpex operations deign to actually publish financials there 401447;1385952920;random_cat;did someone alter the DNS (there is a hint to that end), or wtf? 401448;1385952951;dub;I suspect this is another case of theymos not understanding what he's looking at and assuming something retarded 401449;1385952964;random_cat;that is merely informative, no? mpex also provides the info on honme turf 401450;1385952994;benkay;a) duplication b) why continue to legitimize the operation? 401451;1385953025;random_cat;point taken on b 401452;1385953034;dub;isnt it obvious 401453;1385953052;dub;mp needs newbs to enrage 401454;1385953311;random_cat;is theymos prone to that? 401455;1385953367;random_cat;did the theft of the password hashes occur? it just occurred to me that i haven't changed my passord.... probably should after the 'all clear' 401456;1385953429;benkay;mp needs noobrage energy to feed his dark sorcery 401457;1385953487;dub;last time it got hacked he ended up saying 'lol oops, no i was looking at the wrong thing' 401458;1385953507;dub;safest just to assume it is and was always compromised 401459;1385954160;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.3291 = 0.6582 BTC [+] 401460;1385954205;thestringpuller;lol @ benkay 401461;1385955194;benkay;gyft 401462;1385955197;benkay;more like gryft 401463;1385955423;nubbins`;mint.ca down, canadian dollar crashing 401464;1385955431;nubbins`;possible mitm 401465;1385955867;random_cat;would that be stephen poloz? 401466;1385955868;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 24 @ 0.05002927 = 1.2007 BTC [-] {6} 401467;1385956110;Vexual;Frankie Muniz 401468;1385956145;nubbins`;bryan cranston 401469;1385957251;Bugpowder;wtf with the call options pricing? 401470;1385957276;Bugpowder;is it not very very broken? 401471;1385957312;Bugpowder;oh wait. 401472;1385957325;Bugpowder;50 per 0.1BTC? 401473;1385957334;Bugpowder;is O.USD.C050T 401474;1385957393;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 598 @ 0.002 = 1.196 BTC [+] 401475;1385957554;benkay;yeah man 401476;1385957577;benkay;although mp has yet to capitulate on actually listing them in lots of satoshis 401477;1385957848;thestringpuller;lololol Bugpowder has not bought options in awhile 401478;1385957855;thestringpuller;Bugpowder Bugpowder Bugpowder !!!! 401479;1385957856;thestringpuller;lol 401480;1385957857;Bugpowder;somebody banged the 50s 401481;1385957860;Bugpowder;daym 401482;1385957868;thestringpuller;they're all short though 401483;1385957878;Bugpowder;I was trying to buy calls when the bitcoin price was 150 401484;1385957887;thestringpuller;They'll have to go into a straddle if the price goes too high 401485;1385957892;Bugpowder;but I couldn't figure out how to change the key 401486;1385957895;Bugpowder;was too drunk 401487;1385957900;Bugpowder;:( 401488;1385957900;thestringpuller;lol! 401489;1385957908;Bugpowder;sigh 401490;1385957914;Bugpowder;could have bounced back 401491;1385957922;Bugpowder;coulda ben a contender again 401492;1385957925;thestringpuller;what's the point of short exposure? 401493;1385957949;thestringpuller;there's almost 200 btc of C050T 401494;1385957987;thestringpuller;you can't exit that position until the month closes...does that mean 1 we'll see stability or 2 a price crash? 401495;1385958552;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.32988 = 0.6598 BTC [+] 401496;1385959311;random_cat;unless you can find a suitable synthetic 401497;1385959699;thestringpuller;snythetic what? 401498;1385959708;thestringpuller;synthetic person? 401499;1385959711;jborkl;So , I am behind in the news. Where did the forum go now? 401500;1385959718;mike_c;dns problems 401501;1385959730;thestringpuller;someone also did a man in the middle 401502;1385959740;thestringpuller;so I expect the forums will be down while theymos again investigates 401503;1385959745;thestringpuller;i'm so sick of that guy 401504;1385959750;jborkl;Sweet 401505;1385960321;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.33499966 = 2.01 BTC [+] {3} 401506;1385960617;thestringpuller;!ticker m s.bbet 401507;1385960617;assbot;[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.0005 / 0.0005 / 0.0005 (500 shares, 0.25 BTC), 7D: 0.0005 / 0.0007278 / 0.00075 (35000 shares, 25.47 BTC), 30D: 0.00045 / 0.00066899 / 0.00075 (45237 shares, 30.26 BTC) 401508;1385960687;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 4 @ 0.05000011 = 0.2 BTC [-] {2} 401509;1385960688;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 60 @ 0.00330011 = 0.198 BTC [+] 401510;1385960754;thestringpuller;!ticker m s.mpoe 401511;1385960755;assbot;[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00078987 / 0.00079353 / 0.00079603 (133027 shares, 105.56 BTC), 7D: 0.00077981 / 0.00079847 / 0.0008476 (1314264 shares, 1,049.41 BTC), 30D: 0.0007725 / 0.00081869 / 0.00088996 (6179919 shares, 5,059.49 BTC) 401512;1385960992;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.15899996 = 0.477 BTC [+] {2} 401513;1385961053;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.15993332 = 0.9596 BTC [+] {3} 401514;1385961114;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.16999999 = 0.51 BTC [+] {2} 401515;1385961175;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.17499983 BTC [+] 401516;1385961711;thestringpuller;;;calc 0.00000054 * 126 401517;1385961711;gribble;6.804e-05 401518;1385961728;thestringpuller;;;calc 0.00000054 * 1260 401519;1385961728;gribble;0.0006804 401520;1385961730;thestringpuller;;;calc 0.00000054 * 12600 401521;1385961730;gribble;0.006804 401522;1385961736;thestringpuller;;;calc 0.00000054 * 126000 401523;1385961736;gribble;0.06804 401524;1385961773;thestringpuller;;;calc 126000 / 0.0008 401525;1385961773;gribble;157500000 401526;1385961783;thestringpuller;;;calc 126000 * 0.0008 401527;1385961783;gribble;100.8 401528;1385961796;thestringpuller;;;calc 12600 * 0.0008 401529;1385961796;gribble;10.08 401530;1385964618;benkay;.d 401531;1385964618;ozbot;707408283.05150 | Next Diff in 1558 blocks | Estimated Change: 23.8290% in 8d 5h 27m 37s 401532;1385965567;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34 BTC [+] 401533;1385966367;davout;hello assets 401534;1385967336;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34 BTC [+] 401535;1385967509;Duffer1;hi 401536;1385967845;KRS|gotyawallet;the fuck..? are you guys watching #bitcoin-pricetalk and btc-revolution? 401537;1385967862;KRS|gotyawallet;Bitcoin PSA‏@BitcoinPSA2h 401538;1385967862;KRS|gotyawallet;@PumpNDumpTeam That wasn't a crash. It was retaliation towards pump and dumpers.... 401539;1385968129;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.34 = 2.72 BTC [+] 401540;1385968168;benkay;naw man, what's going on over there? 401541;1385968251;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1027 @ 0.00302118 = 3.1028 BTC [-] {15} 401542;1385968312;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 397 @ 0.00293567 = 1.1655 BTC [-] {17} 401543;1385968373;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 156 @ 0.00282141 = 0.4401 BTC [-] {17} 401544;1385968434;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 2746 @ 0.0026477 = 7.2706 BTC [-] {17} 401545;1385968495;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 3113 @ 0.00107797 = 3.3557 BTC [-] {11} 401546;1385968730;knotwork;http://galaxies.mygamesonline.org/digitalisassets.html has been updated with new links, including a link to the new report http://galaxies.mygamesonline.org/companies.html 401547;1385968731;ozbot;Digitalis Open Transactions server: Assets 401548;1385968839;benkay;goodness, what is this? 401549;1385968851;KRS|gotyawallet;hang on 401550;1385969132;benkay;wow so much wtf 401551;1385969471;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.330101 BTC [-] 401552;1385969507;KRS|gotyawallet;ikr 401553;1385969522;KRS|gotyawallet;happy to bring it back to my friends here at btcassets 401554;1385969592;KRS|gotyawallet;what bothers me still is that the price still looks so much like a bubble, even after realizing what was done yesterday/earlier. 401555;1385969593;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 37 @ 0.00314037 = 0.1162 BTC [+] {3} 401556;1385969714;benkay;"what was done", meaning the 1250 > 840 > 1100 wobble? 401557;1385969742;KRS|gotyawallet;right 401558;1385969744;KRS|gotyawallet; and btc-revolution-s why didn't you drop it to 20? 401559;1385969744;KRS|gotyawallet; im a donor 401560;1385969776;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 374 @ 0.002 = 0.748 BTC [+] 401561;1385969813;KRS|gotyawallet;ok it looks like he donated to "fontase"- 204 btc 401562;1385969826;KRS|gotyawallet;to get in the "inner circle" 401563;1385969828;benkay;wow wtfuckballs 401564;1385969840;KRS|gotyawallet; to crash out a ppump and dumper 401565;1385969840;KRS|gotyawallet; on his coins 401566;1385969840;KRS|gotyawallet; so he couldent get them back out 401567;1385969840;KRS|gotyawallet; lol 401568;1385969866;KRS|gotyawallet;its all in #bitcoin-pricetalk if there are any logs following that chat room 401569;1385969875;benkay;oh i'm watching now 401570;1385969896;KRS|gotyawallet;basically- if this is true, hold your coins..according to him its going to be a "rough two weeks". 401571;1385969940;benkay;i have a hard time buying some rando in pricetalk's claims to move the entire btc market 401572;1385969997;Duffer1;what's he trying to accomplish? 401573;1385970016;KRS|gotyawallet;stop pumper and dumpers 401574;1385970021;KRS|gotyawallet;i guess i can pastebin tis 401575;1385970022;KRS|gotyawallet;this 401576;1385970052;Duffer1;oh alt coin p&d? 401577;1385970106;KRS|gotyawallet;http://pastebin.com/k6fgbMcA 401578;1385970107;ozbot; good luck with stopping the pump and dumpers. i don't believe you - Pastebin.com 401579;1385970112;KRS|gotyawallet;yeah even btc p&d 401580;1385970125;KRS|gotyawallet;some of these might be the "whales" 401581;1385970224;benkay;just no 401582;1385970264;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 108 @ 0.00314999 = 0.3402 BTC [+] {2} 401583;1385970302;benkay;maybe there are people with giant amounts of btc floating around still who are trying to p/d, but the pumps last an entire month and the dumps last for trivial amounts of time 401584;1385970382;Duffer1;it seems he's taking credit for cryptsy's current troubles 401585;1385970542;Duffer1;ohh donate to fontas to get inside info, then crush it 401586;1385970631;benkay;/query bingoboingo 401587;1385970754;KRS|gotyawallet;right 401588;1385970762;KRS|gotyawallet;-> benkay 401589;1385970773;KRS|gotyawallet;yes Duffer1 401590;1385970811;KRS|gotyawallet; we are the anti-pump and dumpers 401591;1385970811;KRS|gotyawallet; group of donors crashing out pump and dumpers - i thought you were in here with head banana and some others when we gave our first warnings 401592;1385970857;benkay;more like doner kebab 401593;1385970909;KRS|gotyawallet;he is that dude who's trying to live without fiat 100% btc 401594;1385970912;Duffer1;it's almost a case of too little too late, everything on BTC-E is already absurdly overpriced 401595;1385970947;KRS|gotyawallet;it seems they did the same with litecoin 401596;1385970981;KRS|gotyawallet;now looking back at the markets its amazing how they naturally normalize after some time 401597;1385970981;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 401598;1385971064;Duffer1;fontas just tweeted colossus coin pump, guess he's moving on to the coin graveyard er i mean cryptsy 401599;1385971080;KRS|gotyawallet;heh i made some good money with fontas 401600;1385971085;KRS|gotyawallet;i think he's funny 401601;1385971099;Duffer1;ya no doubt there's money to be had from it 401602;1385971136;Duffer1;and with the amount of B following him, pumping some of those .00000001 coins on cryptsy could be very lucrative 401603;1385971142;KRS|gotyawallet;According to btc-revolution its "bad for btc" =/ 401604;1385971151;KRS|gotyawallet;you better believe 401605;1385971155;KRS|gotyawallet;that is right duffer1 401606;1385971188;benkay;i still want to know what this is all about: http://galaxies.mygamesonline.org/companies.html 401607;1385971348;KRS|gotyawallet;hmm 401608;1385971414;KRS|gotyawallet;very interesting- a ton of DVC (Devcoin) was just deposited into some exchanges who ran out..many are anticipating a rise in value 401609;1385971421;KRS|gotyawallet;if dDVC is devcoin? 401610;1385971432;Duffer1;ya that's devcoin 401611;1385971436;KRS|gotyawallet;Devcorp? 401612;1385971465;KRS|gotyawallet;ok so they are paying developers in Devcoin? 401613;1385971489;Duffer1;apparently that was it's original purpose 401614;1385971505;Duffer1;i don't know much about the coin, other than it will be de-listed from mcxNOW soon 401615;1385971627;KRS|gotyawallet;mcxNOW is being delisted from mcxNOW heh 401616;1385971635;KRS|gotyawallet;its all over for them 401617;1385971677;Duffer1;could be 401618;1385971688;Duffer1;realsolid is a flake 401619;1385972300;KRS|gotyawallet;thats the impression i got 401620;1385972316;KRS|gotyawallet;but damn..this looks too much like a bubble so idk what side of the fence to be on here.. 401621;1385972399;Duffer1;which coin? 401622;1385972407;KRS|gotyawallet;btc 401623;1385972411;Duffer1;oh 401624;1385972458;benkay;just be on the btc coin 401625;1385972464;benkay;develop a smug regard for day-traders 401626;1385972487;benkay;cackle gleefully when you are living your life during mini crashes 401627;1385972521;benkay;"what, there was a 30% value wobble? lol too bad i was busy drinking champange to notice" 401628;1385972802;KRS|gotyawallet;ya i play with altcoins fur the lulz all btc atm 401629;1385972832;KRS|gotyawallet;haha benkay 401630;1385973418;wao-ender;mircea_popescu: are you related somehow to Ionut Popescu ? 401631;1385973476;sgnb;I heard this name was very common in Romania 401632;1385973486;wao-ender;oh 401633;1385973486;wao-ender;ok 401634;1385973495;wao-ender;I just found him here http://defcamp.ro/speakers/ 401635;1385973506;dub;hold the slashdots RMS is drooling on his shoes again 401636;1385973525;dub;is it safe to visit .ro sites yet? 401637;1385973533;dub;last I herd it was instavirus 401638;1385973559;wao-ender;:D 401639;1385974412;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 376 @ 0.00039999 = 0.1504 BTC [+] 401640;1385975632;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 5 @ 0.0551 = 0.2755 BTC [+] 401641;1385976393;zacm;i hope the place stallman speaks at has his special diet accomodations in mind. he's on a toenail diet, remember. 401642;1385976486;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11850 @ 0.00079266 = 9.393 BTC [-] 401643;1385977035;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.00304989 = 0.122 BTC [+] {3} 401644;1385977218;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 121 @ 0.00300345 = 0.3634 BTC [-] {4} 401645;1385977279;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 279 @ 0.00324497 = 0.9053 BTC [+] {8} 401646;1385977306;jurov`;Login temporarily discouraged huh 401647;1385977340;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 70 @ 0.00214 = 0.1498 BTC [+] 401648;1385977936;KRS|gotyawallet;$upernode Lifestyle 401649;1385978034;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJ5KlZNh1WA 401650;1385978035;ozbot;Official Video: Snoop Lion "La La La" (prod. Major Lazer) - YouTube 401651;1385978054;KRS|gotyawallet;Hey whats up Vexual =D 401652;1385978063;KRS|gotyawallet;Did you see what Snoop said about btc 401653;1385978079;Vexual;no 401654;1385978113;KRS|gotyawallet;https://twitter.com/SnoopDogg 401655;1385978114;ozbot;Snoop Dogg (SnoopDogg) on Twitter 401656;1385978133;Vexual;he he 401657;1385978170;KRS|gotyawallet;Major Lazer..hmm ever hear this one- 401658;1385978195;Vexual;he must have a hookup to visa 401659;1385978218;Vexual;i just bought reincarnated on vinyl with my visa, and i'm sure they can connect that 401660;1385978226;KRS|gotyawallet;video is hilarious 401661;1385978227;KRS|gotyawallet;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hR-NXv5Tma0 401662;1385978227;ozbot;Major Lazer - Bubble Butt (feat. Bruno Mars, 2 Chainz, Tyga & Mystic) - Directed by Eric Wareheim - 401663;1385978240;KRS|gotyawallet;I could swear you can see the girl's anus when she bends down 401664;1385978275;Vexual;flip it reverse it and check it 401665;1385978317;mircea_popescu;wao-ender nah, i'm not related to any other popescu you might have heard of 401666;1385978330;mircea_popescu;(it's kind of a common surname, like smith or brown or something) 401667;1385978348;KRS|gotyawallet;dat ass 401668;1385978366;KRS|gotyawallet;my house is shaking with all this bass its 5AM here 401669;1385978398;mircea_popescu;and look at that, somebody tried to rape mpoe bot and failed! 401670;1385978560;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00214 = 0.107 BTC [+] 401671;1385978676;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Rn2HXrqUBA 401672;1385978677;ozbot;Snoop Dogg - 02 Think About It - Blue Carpet Treatment - YouTube 401673;1385979074;davout;mircea_popescu: if the girl is bored send her this way -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=354365.msg3794760 401674;1385979082;Vexual;mp, you gonna endore gangsta rap now? 401675;1385979100;mircea_popescu;Vexual i just trolled thestringpuller 401676;1385979102;mircea_popescu;because i can. 401677;1385979112;Vexual;excellent 401678;1385979128;Vexual;love your work 401679;1385979131;mircea_popescu;davout "Cloudflare talked a major CA into issuing a certificate for any domain with a cloudflare-generated keypair;" 401680;1385979154;mircea_popescu;that may be technically correct. they might have done exactly that, through the mediation of the us secretary of state. 401681;1385979186;davout;i think it has more to do with "oh your DNS is configured to cloudflare, where do i sign?" 401682;1385979200;davout;but hey, only idiots rule out the NSA 401683;1385979220;zacm;bitcointalk hijacked by us govt? never! 401684;1385979240;mircea_popescu;zacm no, just the usg using american companies as governmental agents. 401685;1385979251;mircea_popescu;it cost cisco its business last month, pretty much, but the practice isn't new. 401686;1385979315;mircea_popescu;"Because the HTTPS protocol is pretty terrible" no look, he has a point. 401687;1385979324;mircea_popescu;https is not secure enough to run a forum on. 401688;1385979366;mircea_popescu;holy shit his signature is 1kb DSA ?! 401689;1385979372;zacm;wonder what they want access to a bitcoin forum for. 401690;1385979400;Vexual;maybe they want everyone to scatter so it's harder to infomine 401691;1385979547;mircea_popescu;;;google "we're being probed" 401692;1385979548;gribble;Forensic experts visit fire site, conspiracy angle being probed - The ...: ; Senior Chinese official sacked in corruption probe | Reuters: ; Peaches Geldof (1 more message) 401693;1385979558;mircea_popescu;fucking useless google still eh ? 401694;1385979580;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/boys-and-girls-i-got-news-were-being-probed/ 401695;1385979581;ozbot;Boys and girls, I got news : we’re being probed. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 401696;1385979874;dexX7;very good quality ddos :D 401697;1385980059;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kk5lvIiNDDI 401698;1385980060;ozbot;Snoop Dogg - Gin & Juice (Official Video) - YouTube 401699;1385980320;mircea_popescu;davout "This merchant stuff solves an imaginary problem in a broken way, what's next in the core tree? Discount codes? Loyalty programs?" no, i tihnk you pretty much got it. 401700;1385980343;mircea_popescu;imho the main trunk became spurious somewhere around 4.3.0 or thereabouts. i have no idea who even follows their github anymore. 401701;1385980365;KRS|gotyawallet;+1 Vexual 401702;1385980433;Vexual;http://www.anyclip.com/movies/waterworld/talking-to-thief-on-boat/#!quotes/ 401703;1385980434;ozbot;Talking to Thief on Boat from Waterworld | Anyclip 401704;1385980448;KRS|gotyawallet;Vedual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq_REsvdCg0 401705;1385980451;KRS|gotyawallet;Vexual 401706;1385980460;KRS|gotyawallet;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq_REsvdCg0 401707;1385980460;ozbot;Filter - Welcome To The Fold (Official Video) - YouTube 401708;1385980493;KRS|gotyawallet;let it ride a min if you havent heard it yet 401709;1385980578;Vexual;its making dogs bark 401710;1385980633;KRS|gotyawallet;hah they like it 401711;1385980644;Vexual;where are they fropm? 401712;1385980675;KRS|gotyawallet;The U.S. - Ohio 401713;1385980748;mircea_popescu;;;bcstats 401714;1385980750;gribble;Current Blocks: 272645 | Current Difficulty: 7.074082830514966E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 274175 | Next Difficulty In: 1530 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 20 hours, 15 minutes, and 15 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 868927085.081 | Estimated Percent Change: 22.83247 401715;1385980772;KRS|gotyawallet;shit already 401716;1385980781;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLGde-7mIyA 401717;1385980782;ozbot;Wolfmother - Woman - YouTube 401718;1385980812;KRS|gotyawallet;Aussies 401719;1385980841;KRS|gotyawallet;Heard Australia is a GREAT place to visit. I shall have to try to make it there at some point. 401720;1385980852;KRS|gotyawallet;Hey these guys are good. 401721;1385980884;Vexual;i think they retired 401722;1385980939;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 91 @ 0.00459999 = 0.4186 BTC [-] 401723;1385980989;truffles;wolf father doesnt have the same affect eh 401724;1385981032;Vexual;all the kids are retiring at 35 these days 401725;1385981122;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3C8Jic9jE-I 401726;1385981122;ozbot;Porque te vas - Kill Cruise. 1990 (fragmento) - YouTube 401727;1385981313;truffles;well that wasnt expected 401728;1385981350;Vexual;ive got a bitbet for ya 401729;1385981400;Vexual;someone will fuck with friedcats hongkong rooftop radiator before bitcoin has to fork 401730;1385981416;Vexual;except we would never hear about the radiator 401731;1385981561;Vexual;someone called galvanic corrosion 401732;1385981668;Vexual;teflon tape? really!?!? 401733;1385981762;Vexual;the coolant might be inert, but honk kong rain aint 401734;1385982034;Vexual;chinese ingenuity, or honeypot? 401735;1385982076;Vexual;misinfo is worth more than a days crane hire 401736;1385982327;KRS|gotyawallet;Vexual ever hear bitcoin baron 401737;1385982334;KRS|gotyawallet;soundcloud 401738;1385982349;Vexual;probably, is it shit? 401739;1385982369;KRS|gotyawallet;its ok check it 401740;1385982379;KRS|gotyawallet;https://soundcloud.com/#ytcracker/ytcracker-bitcoin-baron-v1-ssl 401741;1385982380;ozbot;SoundCloud - Share Your Sounds 401742;1385982403;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00328588 = 0.1643 BTC [-] {2} 401743;1385982408;KRS|gotyawallet;took me a few times to really like it..but you gotta like it because its btc 401744;1385982418;KRS|gotyawallet;lyrics are good imo 401745;1385982464;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 300 @ 0.00329136 = 0.9874 BTC [+] {3} 401746;1385982863;Vexual;http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=cba_1385947815 401747;1385982864;ozbot;LiveLeak.com - Amazon Experimenting With Drones That Will Deliver Packages In 30 Minutes 401748;1385983190;kakobrekla;https://twitter.com/Driedfred/status/407063820192858112 401749;1385983191;ozbot;Twitter / Driedfred: My new credit card came in ... 401750;1385983322;mircea_popescu;"hey guise guess what, my secret key is just like my name lol. but it's all cool because i have a paper wallet." 401751;1385983438;mircea_popescu;https://twitter.com/Driedfred/status/407432695690846208 at least she's seen the good word. 401752;1385983439;ozbot;Twitter / Driedfred: Claudia should stop rubbing ... 401753;1385983537;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHUNWqmasxk 401754;1385983537;ozbot;Crank Yankers Niles Needs Assistance - YouTube 401755;1385983611;KRS|gotyawallet;that drone delivery is kickass isnt it 401756;1385983885;Vexual;yeah, order a book, get a free quadcopter 401757;1385984089;Vexual;then it's all trustless deaddrops with innocent looking yellow lunchboxes 401758;1385984282;Vexual;a big mesh of the bastards 401759;1385984312;KRS|gotyawallet;hehe 401760;1385984533;Vexual;i guess thats why we're not allowed nuclear AA batteries 401761;1385984699;Vexual;im off to the lab 401762;1385985453;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00328809 = 0.3288 BTC [-] {2} 401763;1385985575;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 405 @ 0.00329487 = 1.3344 BTC [+] {9} 401764;1385986612;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 5 @ 0.05010003 = 0.2505 BTC [-] 401765;1385987629;ThickAsThieves;sure does take a long time to sync the btc client with the network 401766;1385988686;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 35 @ 0.05007715 = 1.7527 BTC [-] {5} 401767;1385988991;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 148 @ 0.00282106 = 0.4175 BTC [-] {9} 401768;1385989540;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 90 @ 0.00331 = 0.2979 BTC [+] 401769;1385989541;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 30 @ 0.33072 = 9.9216 BTC [+] {2} 401770;1385989601;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.3303 = 0.6606 BTC [-] 401771;1385989662;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 5 @ 0.05799996 = 0.29 BTC [+] {3} 401772;1385989784;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 30 @ 0.03 = 0.9 BTC [-] 401773;1385990821;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SMG] 5000 @ 0.00012164 = 0.6082 BTC [+] {7} 401774;1385991797;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 429 @ 0.00200081 = 0.8583 BTC [-] {2} 401775;1385991858;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3975 @ 0.00009603 = 0.3817 BTC [-] {4} 401776;1385991859;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 144 @ 0.00200081 = 0.2881 BTC [-] 401777;1385991919;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2500 @ 0.00195363 = 4.8841 BTC [-] {10} 401778;1385991980;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 363 @ 0.00190272 = 0.6907 BTC [-] {7} 401779;1385992170;turbo_ac100;;;market sell 10000 401780;1385992170;gribble;A market order to sell 10000 bitcoins right now would net 8838602.1661 USD and would take the last price down to 780.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 883.8602 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 215.1774 seconds 401781;1385992218;turbo_ac100;is that gox only? 401782;1385992260;ThickAsThieves;yes 401783;1385992290;ThickAsThieves;i suggest you sell 10000 btc more tactfully though ;) 401784;1385992530;dub;20 hour work day ftw 401785;1385992736;truffles;orly 401786;1385992747;truffles;sitting at a desk counting coins? 401787;1385992802;dub;if only 401788;1385992814;dub;i been on the street slangin packets 401789;1385992823;truffles;no way u were productive all 20.. 401790;1385992898;pankkake;ThickAsThieves: you can speed it up with https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=145386.0 401791;1385992932;pankkake;somehow firefox does not want me to connect to bitcointalk. but chrome does, and it doesn't seem to be a dns issue 401792;1385993077;deadweasel;mebbe? 401793;1385993081;deadweasel;News: If you used your password to login between 06:00 Dec 1 UTC and 20:00 Dec 2 UTC (this is in the future -- do not login until then), then your password may have been captured in a man-in-the-middle attack, and you should change your password here and wherever else you used it. If you were only logged in via the "remember me" feature, then you're OK. 401794;1385993088;deadweasel;via bitcointalk 401795;1385993122;deadweasel;no worries, i haven't logged in since snackman. 401796;1385993510;ThickAsThieves;forum doesnt work in any browser for me 401797;1385993539;dexX7;be careful tat 401798;1385993565;ThickAsThieves;careful of ? 401799;1385993578;dexX7;ThickAsThieves: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1rvrrn/bitcointalkorg_man_in_the_middle_attack_change/cdrfjmh 401800;1385993586;dexX7;and http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1rvrrn/bitcointalkorg_man_in_the_middle_attack_change/ in general 401801;1385993614;deadweasel;as long as you use 'remember me' you are ok. 401802;1385993620;deadweasel;don't plaintext input your password currently. 401803;1385993628;dexX7;if you want access, you can change your dns entry to google's dns though. it's 8.8.8.8 or 8.8.4.4 and resolves correctly 401804;1385993664;ThickAsThieves;i can wait 401805;1385993677;ThickAsThieves;everyone can use a forum vacation 401806;1385994231;jurov`;;;seen topace 401807;1385994232;gribble;topace was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 days, 20 hours, 1 minute, and 19 seconds ago: the panama fund owns 80m units, but since the ipo didnt sell out, it actually holds ~83.3m units still. 401808;1385994460;ThickAsThieves;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1rwkzi/just_found_out_i_was_ripped_off_by_cavirtex/ 401809;1385994461;ozbot;Just found out i was ripped off by CAVirtex : Bitcoin 401810;1385994473;ThickAsThieves;virtex really charges for inactivity?? 401811;1385994478;ThickAsThieves;kinda scammy 401812;1385994659;ThickAsThieves;Once the number of Bitcoins in circulation reaches 21 million in 2024, bounties will no longer be paid out on block discovery, and facilities such as ASICMINER's will have a choice: to either re-purpose their cooled computing power, or shut their mines down forever. 401813;1385994662;ThickAsThieves;http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/2/5165428/bitcoin-mine-in-hong-kong-uses-jelly-to-keep-cool 401814;1385994663;ozbot;The secret Hong Kong facility that uses boiling goo to mine Bitcoins | The Verge 401815;1385994672;ThickAsThieves;so bitcoin will die when they are all mined 401816;1385994675;ThickAsThieves;sorry guys 401817;1385994714;kleeck;"boiling goo" - The finest journalism. 401818;1385994836;TomServo;Here's some good humor, a slashdot comment for a solution to blockchain bloat: 401819;1385994838;TomServo;What is really needed is a system where coins outside of circulation lose value so that the length of the blockchain can be easily kept to a manageable size because lost coins will disappear and the amount of history you have to keep (and verify) will be much smaller. 401820;1385994860;sgnb;when will people understand that it is not safe to keep anything on an exchange? 401821;1385995316;deadweasel;reddit motto: 'we know just enough to get into trouble' 401822;1385995383;deadweasel;;;later tell mirceau_popescu I'm not sure I could get Ed Felten in here, but i'll give it whirl later. 401823;1385995383;gribble;The operation succeeded. 401824;1385995612;jurov`;deadweaeaeasel: his name is mircea_popescu 401825;1385996006;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33999969 BTC [+] 401826;1385996040;dexX7;lol i thought this was a joke http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-amazon-prime-air-20131202,0,6889414.story?track=rss 401827;1385996067;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.33999979 = 1.02 BTC [+] 401828;1385996128;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33999999 BTC [+] 401829;1385996211;topace;ola 401830;1385996213;deadweasel;feck, thanks jurov` 401831;1385996216;topace;people lookin for me apparently 401832;1385996219;pankkake;I wonder how it can work with city buildings - how do you prevent stealing? 401833;1385996339;ThickAsThieves;and stealing/damage of the machine 401834;1385996358;deadweasel;;;later tell mircea_popescu sent Ed Felten a quick message, invited him to discuss here. :) Good Fun. 401835;1385996358;gribble;The operation succeeded. 401836;1385996378;pankkake;otherwise it's pretty cool to entirely bypass the postal system 401837;1385996436;truffles;but does he like bitcoin deadweasel 401838;1385996436;ThickAsThieves;people will have a blast taking them out of the air 401839;1385996444;dexX7;well, do people steal parcel transporter cars? 401840;1385996446;dexX7;hahaha 401841;1385996465;ThickAsThieves;throw a pair of tied shoes at it 401842;1385996467;ThickAsThieves;good fun 401843;1385997531;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 260 @ 0.00329997 = 0.858 BTC [+] {5} 401844;1385998629;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 53 @ 0.00330001 = 0.1749 BTC [+] 401845;1385999678;lil_data;butthurt brigade go https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=325431.40 401846;1385999708;lil_data;next time invest only chargebackcoins 401847;1386000300;mike_c;at least it was good for a laugh :) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=325431.msg3710198#msg3710198 401848;1386000442;jurov`;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=325431.msg3795583 roflmao everyone accepting donations for legal action now 401849;1386000444;ozbot;labcoin lawsuit 401850;1386000531;ThickAsThieves;I still cant get forum to load 401851;1386000557;ThickAsThieves;when i change dns to google it just erases the setting when i close the popup 401852;1386000766;mike_c;the easiest people to scam are the victims of a previous scam. proven gullability! 401853;1386000796;lil_data;i'd like to support this gentleman directly https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i.imgur.com/nhySxoj.jpg 401854;1386000815;lil_data;to hunt down all the btc bad guys 401855;1386000842;lil_data;on the way to the moon 401856;1386000848;lil_data;on a space segway 401857;1386001125;nubbins`;bet his father would be ashamed 401858;1386001740;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33999999 BTC [+] 401859;1386001790;pankkake;they wanted to believe in labcoin, I guess they now want to believe in the legal system 401860;1386001812;pankkake;I thought the "LCSH" was about finding the guys and actually going there 401861;1386002411;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33999999 BTC [+] 401862;1386002556;jamespeerless;can someone explain how the weight works on bitbet? 401863;1386002694;kakobrekla;http://bitbet.us/faq/#26 401864;1386002697;kakobrekla;http://bitbet.us/faq/#140 401865;1386002697;ozbot;FAQ BitBet 401866;1386002698;ozbot;FAQ BitBet 401867;1386002738;kakobrekla;i starts at 100k and goes down to whatever its set to go down to 401868;1386002784;kakobrekla;to account for the risk that early bettors are taking and discourage leechers 401869;1386002803;jamespeerless;is the idea that at the start of the bet the odds aren't really known? 401870;1386002804;kakobrekla;it starts* 401871;1386002819;kakobrekla;or else it wouldnt be much of a bet 401872;1386002837;kakobrekla;if outcome is known 401873;1386002894;jamespeerless;so it's to handle bets that range over long period of time or where information is leaked over time 401874;1386002911;jamespeerless;but if its "will the patriots win on sunday" WHEN you bet doesn't matter if the game hasn't started 401875;1386003021;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 353 @ 0.00339082 = 1.197 BTC [+] {10} 401876;1386003030;pankkake;what if a player gets ill? 401877;1386003034;pankkake;it's a new information 401878;1386003047;pankkake;late bettors usually have better info and less risk 401879;1386003080;pankkake;but there are bets where it wouldn't matter - and in that case you can create the bet with a higher last weight 401880;1386003109;jamespeerless;i see 401881;1386003112;jamespeerless;makes sense 401882;1386003146;jamespeerless;and it decreases linearly over time? 401883;1386003183;pankkake;http://bitbet.us/bet/608/super-bowl-coin-toss-will-be-heads/ typically that bet really shouldn't go to weight 1… oh well 401884;1386003184;ozbot;BitBet - Super Bowl coin toss will be "heads" 401885;1386003196;pankkake;hm I think so yes 401886;1386003326;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 3 @ 0.05998899 = 0.18 BTC [+] 401887;1386003387;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 7 @ 0.05998899 = 0.4199 BTC [+] {3} 401888;1386003448;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 6 @ 0.05998899 = 0.3599 BTC [+] {2} 401889;1386003509;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 2 @ 0.05998899 = 0.12 BTC [+] 401890;1386003692;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.33999999 = 1.02 BTC [+] 401891;1386003693;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 317 @ 0.00348601 = 1.1051 BTC [+] {7} 401892;1386004424;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 4 @ 0.05998899 = 0.24 BTC [+] {2} 401893;1386004485;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 6 @ 0.05998899 = 0.3599 BTC [+] {2} 401894;1386004546;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 6 @ 0.05998899 = 0.3599 BTC [+] {2} 401895;1386005175;kakobrekla;pankkake on that one the weight is just mitigating the risk of mps disappearance 401896;1386005181;kakobrekla;;) 401897;1386005888;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 10 @ 0.05998899 = 0.5999 BTC [+] {2} 401898;1386006751;mircea_popescu;deadweasel now invite nick. 401899;1386006970;mircea_popescu;there once was a man, his name was magellan, a portuguese skipper, the girls found him cute... 401900;1386007027;pankkake;;;bc,xau 401901;1386007028;gribble;1 XAU = 1225.900000000000 USD = 1.18851836386 BTC 401902;1386007236;mircea_popescu;btw pankkake, for your curiosity : since i finally fixed trilema credits ordering i'm getting about 10x as many orders. 401903;1386007246;mircea_popescu;i'd have died stupid if you weren't here to bitch at me. 401904;1386007261;kakobrekla;also poor. 401905;1386007268;pankkake;so most of your readers are autists like me, cool 401906;1386007282;mircea_popescu;i don't think poor was possible since about 1994 or so 401907;1386007316;kakobrekla;oh, i always thought trilema credits were the source of your wealth 401908;1386007321;kakobrekla;live and learn as they say 401909;1386007328;kakobrekla;i wont die stuptd as well 401910;1386007336;mircea_popescu;lmao 401911;1386007394;mircea_popescu;pankkake i suppose it's the case that my readers DIDN'T USE TO BE autists like you. but not anymore nao. because progress and stuff. 401912;1386007446;assbot;Last 10 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1490435/plain/) 401913;1386007446;mircea_popescu;!b 10 401914;1386007535;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3500 @ 0.00010996 = 0.3849 BTC [+] {3} 401915;1386007804;mircea_popescu;http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=18 ahahah this guy is too funny. 401916;1386007804;ozbot;#bitcoin-assets bash 401917;1386007809;mircea_popescu;who's firedrops ? 401918;1386008169;pankkake;oh I realize my coloring hook for assbot actually removes the first character 401919;1386008180;pankkake;so it says 123! not 23! … makes sense now 401920;1386008231;mircea_popescu;23 is an unexpectedly low amount for assbot. 401921;1386008329;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 110 @ 0.002045 = 0.225 BTC [+] {2} 401922;1386008371;pankkake;796 401923;1386008371;assbot;123! 401924;1386008499;dexX7;simply amazing 401925;1386008499;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 401926;1386008511;pankkake;I shaved my manly beard today. Litteraly months of work down the drain 401927;1386008572;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 12 @ 0.03000001 = 0.36 BTC [+] 401928;1386008581;pankkake;literally* hmm.. lite. rally. there's a coin idea in there 401929;1386008819;mircea_popescu;ltc to the moon! 401930;1386008839;mircea_popescu;"every time you say literally but mean metaphorically mtgox kills a large pizza kitten" 401931;1386008851;jcpham;i ignored litecoin for too long 401932;1386008860;jcpham;now i'm even mining the shit for giggles 401933;1386008877;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 500 @ 0.00039999 = 0.2 BTC [+] {2} 401934;1386008903;jcpham;only because i have the gpu mining rigs sitting unused 401935;1386008914;jcpham;and it's worth $25-35 401936;1386008934;pankkake;try http://middlecoin.com/ 401937;1386008946;pankkake;I'd use it, but I have no real GPUs 401938;1386008977;jcpham;my gpus rigs have been sitting for months because i'm too lazy to go over there and pull them offline 401939;1386008990;jcpham;should've been mining bullshit altcoin instead of laughing at them 401940;1386009060;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.03000001 = 0.15 BTC [+] {2} 401941;1386009093;mike_c;are there any bullshit altcoins that are cpu mineable? 401942;1386009165;pankkake;yes! protoshares or primecoin 401943;1386009179;pankkake;quite profitable if you have a bunch of servers usually idling 401944;1386009241;pankkake;I don't understand why people pay for them, but why pass the opportunity to get some free money 401945;1386009366;mike_c;well, people have bought labcoin shares in the last week too. 401946;1386009464;pankkake;http://it.slashdot.org/story/13/12/02/130226/why-people-are-so-bad-at-picking-passwords Studies suggest red-haired women tend to choose the best passwords and men with bushy beards or unkempt hair, the worst. 401947;1386009465;ozbot;Why People Are So Bad At Picking Passwords - Slashdot 401948;1386010830;mircea_popescu;i thought the definition of bullshit altcoin was "can still gpu them" 401949;1386010845;mircea_popescu;pankkake i can vouch for the gingers. 401950;1386010861;benkay;mircea_popescu: why do gingers pick better passwords? 401951;1386010889;pankkake;well the gpu mining community is by far the worst 401952;1386010900;mircea_popescu;they pick better peckers too. they're just better. 401953;1386010906;mircea_popescu;probably because they have no souls. 401954;1386011270;benkay;emotions do interfere in the ruthless pursuit of capital 401955;1386011283;benkay;and operational security 401956;1386012177;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/the-strange-case-of-the-delusionist-and-later-stories/ 401957;1386012178;ozbot;The strange case of the delusionist and later stories. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 401958;1386012367;ThickAsThieves;tyoe 401959;1386012374;ThickAsThieves;typo* 401960;1386012376;ThickAsThieves;sunset 401961;1386012398;mircea_popescu;a ty 401962;1386012437;ThickAsThieves;are you color blind perchance? 401963;1386012448;ThickAsThieves;the chart is not grey and red 401964;1386012451;ThickAsThieves;it is teal and red 401965;1386012453;pankkake;Bitcoin to trade at $100 USD by the end of March 2013 link is wrong 401966;1386012456;pankkake;unless intentional 401967;1386012466;mircea_popescu;i am colorblind 401968;1386012479;ThickAsThieves;neat 401969;1386012532;mircea_popescu;pankkake the anchor not the url :p 401970;1386012601;ThickAsThieves;maybe a footnote for the artist credit? 401971;1386012610;mircea_popescu;i put it in the alt for the img and it links to their page 401972;1386012614;ThickAsThieves;ah 401973;1386014001;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34 BTC [+] 401974;1386014123;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.03154999 = 0.3155 BTC [+] {4} 401975;1386014245;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.17488997 = 0.3498 BTC [-] {2} 401976;1386015817;benkay;23 days to christmas 401977;1386015885;benkay;http://bitbet.us/bet/636/cardano-delivered-before-christmas/ 401978;1386015888;ozbot;BitBet - Cardano delivered before Christmas 401979;1386016050;thestringpuller;benkay: 401980;1386016052;thestringpuller;you there? 401981;1386016089;benkay;yeah see pm 401982;1386016261;kleeck_;WHy does bitcointalk keep logging me out? 401983;1386016269;benkay;so that the mitm can get your password 401984;1386016270;kleeck_;Try'nah snatch me passwords 401985;1386016279;kleeck_;exactly 401986;1386016281;kleeck_;lol 401987;1386016288;kleeck_;watching that handshake. 401988;1386017167;thestringpuller;;;seen jurov` 401989;1386017167;gribble;jurov` was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 hours, 38 minutes, and 44 seconds ago: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=325431.msg3795583 roflmao everyone accepting donations for legal action now 401990;1386017188;jurov`;wat 401991;1386017205;thestringpuller;pm 401992;1386017261;jurov`;i don't see your pm 401993;1386017356;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.33040001 = 0.9912 BTC [-] 401994;1386017605;nubbins`;hi 401995;1386018379;jurov`;hi nubs 401996;1386018695;kakobrekla;>BFL_Josh>here's been a bit of a delay at the foundry on our chips and scheduling. The sample chips have been delayed a few weeks (still waiting on an exact date), so this should only affect the earliest customers, who we've already contacted with regards to the delay. The majority of customers should not be affected much, if at all. 401997;1386018695;kakobrekla;When I have a specific date from the foundry, I will post an update here with a revised timeline. We still expect to ship the bulk of the orders in/around February. Anyone ordering now will probably not get their order until March or April, just as an FYI and in the spirit of trying to keep realistic expectations on shipping times. 401998;1386018695;kakobrekla;Due to the delay for the earliest people, the ones affected will be upgraded to the watercooled version for free. The watercooled Monarch will be a closed loop system, so no maintenance will be required. 401999;1386018767;thestringpuller;......... 402000;1386018772;thestringpuller;do we need another bfl bet? 402001;1386018794;kakobrekla;dunno, those only go 1 year ahead 402002;1386018831;mircea_popescu;hahaha 402003;1386018848;mircea_popescu;i wonder if this is new text 402004;1386018856;mircea_popescu;or they just copy/paste from the previous database. 402005;1386019040;thestringpuller;lol @ mircea_popescu 402006;1386019063;thestringpuller;I imagine Josh just copy pasting the same message every time there is a delay 402007;1386019064;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 227 @ 0.00187682 = 0.426 BTC [-] {7} 402008;1386019067;thestringpuller;then going to the forums and justifying it 402009;1386019073;thestringpuller;when will bfl disappear... 402010;1386019090;Vexual;simple pattern learning 402011;1386019125;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 104 @ 0.00188528 = 0.1961 BTC [+] {5} 402012;1386019144;mircea_popescu;by niow you could probably make a bfl competitor out of markov chains and php 402013;1386019376;mircea_popescu;here's a wild thought : by the time bitcoins go for 1 mn dollars each, 402014;1386019387;mircea_popescu;satoshi notation is exactly as precise as dollars and cents. 402015;1386019427;Vexual;elegant 402016;1386019448;dub;ke? 402017;1386019473;mircea_popescu;by the time bitcoins go for 1bn each, which is probably their upper bound, each satoshi is ten bux 402018;1386019478;mircea_popescu;and we can't make change worth a shit. 402019;1386019518;Vexual;that would require global inflation where $10 wouldnt buy anything 402020;1386019538;ThickAsThieves;just use litecoins, theyll only be worth $100k 402021;1386019541;ThickAsThieves;:) 402022;1386019551;mircea_popescu;Vexual not at all. 402023;1386019580;ThickAsThieves;i was thinking about this a few days ago coincidentally 402024;1386019586;mircea_popescu;the endgame where bitcoin is the universal backer of all currency and it trades somewhere in the 10mn to 1bn per range actually sees the dollar slightly stronger than it is today. 402025;1386019588;dub;some poindexter at MIT worked out that satoshi-dime parity was $15k and change 402026;1386019589;ThickAsThieves;and wondered why there are decimals at 402027;1386019599;ThickAsThieves;al 402028;1386019601;ThickAsThieves;l 402029;1386019602;dub;wait, is dime 5c? 402030;1386019609;mircea_popescu;dub is mit on alternate math ? 402031;1386019617;mircea_popescu;a dime is 10 cents. 402032;1386019624;benkay;mircea_popescu u know i been saying you gotta start writing options on lots of satoshis 402033;1386019625;benkay;0, 1, infinity 402034;1386019630;benkay;we all know where this curve goes sir 402035;1386019661;mircea_popescu;curve is romanian for whores. 402036;1386019665;dub;iirc it was the smallest unit in amerifag money 402037;1386019666;mircea_popescu;so i suppose they go to the brothel ? 402038;1386019670;dub;which is 5c? 402039;1386019674;benkay;save us all the accounting headache of figuring out how many fractions of a buttcoin the options are written on each month and just quote 'em in lots of satoshi and put it in the listing string! 402040;1386019677;mircea_popescu;that's a nickle 402041;1386019697;mircea_popescu;benkay 0.1 is clearer than 10000000 402042;1386019708;Vexual;is ther 12 million billion dollars in the world? 402043;1386019713;jurov`;use 1e7 :DDD 402044;1386019720;dub;its going to be a real problem for a lot of bitcoiners 402045;1386019724;mircea_popescu;Vexual upper bound tho. 402046;1386019727;benkay;^^ that scientific notation 402047;1386019737;dub;how to buy a dimebag of crack when the smallest unit is $10????! 402048;1386019738;mircea_popescu;global gnp is somewhere in the 20 trn (thousand billion) range. 402049;1386019743;benkay;"what is one to do - scientific notation?" fuck yes! 402050;1386019803;benkay;imagine the referential transparency: "O.USD.C125T.e6" 402051;1386019835;Vexual;I don't understand the concept mircea 402052;1386019843;mircea_popescu;Vexual which one ? 402053;1386019889;dub;breathing through his nose 402054;1386019920;mircea_popescu;!b3 402055;1386019948;Vexual;upper bound 402056;1386019962;mircea_popescu;upper bound is like "the highest something will ever conceivably go" 402057;1386019983;mircea_popescu;like the upper bound for cranial capacity is about 3k cc, because there's a finite space between a woman 402058;1386019988;Vexual;bitcoin trading to 1bn? 402059;1386019991;mircea_popescu;'s legs which allows her to still walk upright 402060;1386020059;mircea_popescu; how to buy a dimebag of crack when the smallest unit is $10????! <<< HOW TO PAY TX FEES ON THAT!!! 402061;1386020067;Vexual;now im not an economist by any stretch of the imagination.. 402062;1386020097;Vexual;ah yes, fees 402063;1386020161;mircea_popescu;Vexual looky : about 20 trn of new wealth is added to the world each year. the asset value of the world, all things told, is probably two to three degrees of magnitude above that. 402064;1386020182;mircea_popescu;if one single currency is to represent all that value, and especially if that one single currency is bitcoin, where people exhibit a massive tendency to hoard it, 402065;1386020214;mircea_popescu;it's not inconceivable that the btc still in circulation by the time btc takes over the whole world economy will trade at what would be the equivalent of today's billion dollars. 402066;1386020226;mircea_popescu;it is probably forcing a point, which is why i say upper bound. 402067;1386020238;Vexual;i agree 402068;1386020270;mircea_popescu;"a billion dollars is the most bitcoin can ever be." 402069;1386020330;Vexual;bit at 12 million billion, $10 ain't gonna buy shit 402070;1386020343;mircea_popescu;it would buy exactly what it buys today. 402071;1386020358;mircea_popescu;a hambuger or a cheap blowjob in america's inner city highschools. 402072;1386020367;mircea_popescu;which, agreed, isn't shit. 402073;1386020408;Vexual;waiting for that no fee confirm 402074;1386020448;mircea_popescu;whole new prostitution dynamics, you send the no fee 1 satoshi tx as she takes her top off, the tx finally confirms by the time she's wiping her lip. 402075;1386020463;Vexual;double spend and get the hamburger too 402076;1386020471;mircea_popescu;perfect human-machine fit 402077;1386020723;KRS|gotyawallet;heh nice 402078;1386020869;dub;we're forgetting the dev team will save us 402079;1386020946;pankkake;https://twitter.com/Driedfred/status/407063820192858112/photo/1 would those people be safer with bitcoin? :D 402080;1386020947;ozbot;Twitter / Driedfred: My new credit card came in ... 402081;1386020982;Vexual;kerkenbush 402082;1386021149;mircea_popescu;pankkake this, speaking of prostitution ? 402083;1386021152;Vexual;http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/56/World-Population-1800-2100.svg/300px-World-Population-1800-2100.svg.png 402084;1386021259;Vexual;the grren line offs a few billion in 2 centuries 402085;1386021626;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 4 @ 0.03 = 0.12 BTC [-] 402086;1386021687;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.155 = 0.31 BTC [-] 402087;1386021931;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.08305 = 0.1661 BTC [-] {2} 402088;1386021941;Vexual;90 BTC to give everyonbe on earth one satoshi 402089;1386022167;kakobrekla;how to make 90 btc useless 402090;1386022330;BingoBoingo;http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25190119 Iceland's growing up! 402091;1386022331;ozbot;BBC News - Rare Iceland armed police operation leaves man dead 402092;1386022470;mircea_popescu;Counselling is being provided to the special forces team. 402093;1386022480;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 11 @ 0.0297 = 0.3267 BTC [-] 402094;1386022523;Vexual;@just imagine he was a seal@ 402095;1386022837;Vexual;http://news.sohu.com/20131203/n391160693.shtml 402096;1386023580;dub;america: http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_examiner/2013/12/millennial_narcissism_helicopter_parents_are_college_students_bigger_problem.html 402097;1386023872;ThickAsThieves;why is there a Lockheed Martin ad on that page 402098;1386023886;Vexual;coz helicopter 402099;1386023980;ThickAsThieves;what might a slate reader buy from LH? Or maybe it's a recruitment ad? 402100;1386023998;Vexual;helicopter + college 402101;1386024057;Vexual;a phd is paying someone to read something that took you 3 years to write. 402102;1386024058;dub;ads are usually defined by your bubble not the site 402103;1386024100;jurov`;“take your parents to work day.” rly, this is a thing??? 402104;1386024132;dub;I wonder how many people that took parents to a job interview got hired 402105;1386024187;dub;what do you even have on your CV at that point? 402106;1386024205;mircea_popescu;"Rates of depression are soaring among millennials in college." 402107;1386024208;dub;I learned to wipe my own ass just the other day 402108;1386024208;truffles;life is depressing, when thats figured out, maybe some will grow up 402109;1386024211;mircea_popescu;i find the fact that this is even measured offensive. 402110;1386024219;jborkl;so, Picostocks got haxxored for 6000btc now? 402111;1386024220;mircea_popescu;fuck you, go live in the park. 402112;1386024231;Vexual;lol, dr park 402113;1386024240;dub;they should hand out cyanide pills instead of prozac 402114;1386024255;ThickAsThieves;why does anyone take Peter Schiff seriously? 402115;1386024257;mircea_popescu;" It became increasingly difficult to balance school, socializing, laundry, and a part-time job." 402116;1386024268;mircea_popescu;no seriously ? get a job in porn, the set mother will tell you when you need to wash the cum off. 402117;1386024278;jborkl;ie reading facebook while cooking hamburgers 402118;1386024314;mircea_popescu;jborkl a few days back, the theory ghoes. 402119;1386024333;ThickAsThieves;https://soundcloud.com/casper-cheng/peter-schiff-debate-with-erik 402120;1386024343;ThickAsThieves;(voorhees) 402121;1386024371;jborkl;I lose track, it isn't a exciting week anymore if less than 10,000 btc is hacked(run off with by a shitbag) 402122;1386024388;Vexual;no wonder laudry coins 402123;1386024522;mircea_popescu;"The big problem is not that they think too highly of themselves. Their bigger challenge is conflict negotiation, and they often are unable to think for themselves." 402124;1386024531;mircea_popescu;how the fuck is this not self-contradictory ? 402125;1386024535;truffles;shocker amy isnt a dood.. 402126;1386024546;mircea_popescu;inasmuch as they're not groveling nude at the feet of their betters, they DO think way too high of themselves. 402127;1386024549;mircea_popescu;way, way too high. 402128;1386024549;truffles;(gets a gf) 402129;1386024670;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99v9-4uk9ZQ 402130;1386024670;ozbot;Beastie Boys : Skills to Pay the Bills - YouTube 402131;1386024746;jborkl;All the noobs think they are really getting bitcoins back from (insert scammer of the week here) 402132;1386024772;ThickAsThieves;mp this reminds me of the concept discussed in the past, of well-off parents not properly teaching their kids to stay wealthy, and then over X generations all wealth is lost to the family name 402133;1386024776;jborkl;they have not been here in the past and seen (insert scammer of the past week here) did not pay anyone back 402134;1386024800;mike_c;of course, since the ancestor who made the money is dead, who cares? 402135;1386024819;ThickAsThieves;many care, legacy is a big deal for some 402136;1386024828;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves the trick is, making a fortune and keeping a fortune are pretty divergent skills. 402137;1386024836;mircea_popescu;consider the following imo very illustrative example : 402138;1386024850;mircea_popescu;everyone involved in bitcoin of any consequence exhibits the "cave early" behaviour. 402139;1386024851;mike_c;tough to enjoy your legacy when you're dead. 402140;1386024875;ThickAsThieves;mike_c this value varies by culture 402141;1386024883;ThickAsThieves;some really do enjoy knowing they have a legacy to leave 402142;1386024894;mircea_popescu;now, this is a rare behaviour irl. if you go up to a girl and ask her out, it's rare that she says "ok, i'm willing to be your gf now" after two hours. 402143;1386024912;Vexual;ah hem 402144;1386024931;mircea_popescu;in general, the expectation will be that she caves late. and indeed should you after a three week courtship tell her gtfo, you should have said yes on the first pass it'll be unexpected. 402145;1386024946;mircea_popescu;now, bitcoiners are exactly the opposite : they are in bitcoin because they caved early, to the lures of this bitcoin idea. 402146;1386024955;mircea_popescu;the bears are more akin to the girl : they expect bitcoin to court them. 402147;1386024975;mircea_popescu;the funny thing is, that the people who caved early and got bitcoin will continue with the same behaviour : they cave early and get dollars, too. 402148;1386024983;ThickAsThieves;and will thus miss much of the appreciation 402149;1386024992;mircea_popescu;this is why we see this see saw pattern on the price : once it reaches 100 everyone who thought "three digits" sells out 402150;1386025006;mircea_popescu;the mounting buying pressure is temporarily sated, but then later on ? 200, 500, 800 go by like a dream 402151;1386025018;mircea_popescu;because all the kids who were going to sell at 100 to 1000 sold at 130ish 402152;1386025043;mircea_popescu;the same will repeat for a while, i suspect. most of the people that willl sell under 10k have sold or are about to sell at 1k ish 402153;1386025060;mircea_popescu;now, this behaviour clearly does not optimize the $$$ you get for your btc, 402154;1386025071;mircea_popescu;but it is coherent with the behaviour that GOT YOU that btc in the first place. 402155;1386025089;mircea_popescu;and this is not limited to our narrow corner of tghe world. keeping a fortune and making a fortune are widely different skillsets. 402156;1386025123;Vexual;eat rice 402157;1386025193;Vexual;sell wagu 402158;1386025411;mircea_popescu;obviously the same cave early behaviour is related to a lot of the forum-style scammy nonsense passing for investment so successfully. 402159;1386025416;mircea_popescu;everythin's connected. 402160;1386025432;Vexual;people are mostly just fish with arms 402161;1386025474;truffles;orly 402162;1386025528;Vexual;1,2,4,? 402163;1386025530;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00078568 = 7.0711 BTC [-] 402164;1386025651;Vexual;8,64 402165;1386025652;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10000 @ 0.00010998 = 1.0998 BTC [+] {4} 402166;1386025882;benkay;7,96 402167;1386025994;kakobrekla;79.6 402168;1386026039;Vexual;http://www.fractalsciencekit.com/fractals/large/Fractal-Mobius-Dragon-IFS-04.jpg 402169;1386026110;Vexual;http://www.cohenvanbalen.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Life-Support-ventilation-dog_print-a4.jpg solve for x 402170;1386026333;mike_c;ugh, i'm mining litecoins. somebody smack me please. 402171;1386026372;mircea_popescu;what's diff at yet ? 402172;1386026373;mike_c;i think i'm currently losing about $2 an hour 402173;1386026376;benkay`;huh 402174;1386026378;benkay`;that sounded like a bubble popping 402175;1386026379;mircea_popescu;lol 402176;1386026404;mike_c;diff is 1,734 402177;1386026411;mircea_popescu;wow. 402178;1386026427;mike_c;projected: 12% bump in 17 hours 402179;1386026439;ThickAsThieves;i've been selling off my ltc-mining setups 402180;1386026451;ThickAsThieves;they just sat for mos 402181;1386026456;ThickAsThieves;my bad 402182;1386026459;mircea_popescu;it's winter tho 402183;1386026471;pankkake;just use middlecoin 402184;1386026476;ThickAsThieves;turns out i hate caring for computers and being hot 402185;1386026488;mircea_popescu;heh. 402186;1386026497;mircea_popescu;i made that call in 2011. 402187;1386026505;mircea_popescu;boy it saved me so much aggravation hence. 402188;1386026512;ThickAsThieves;i basically stopped once it was all paid for 402189;1386026533;Vexual;they were losing $2 an hour in 2009, but not getting hot 402190;1386026545;ThickAsThieves;the stuff has better resale value than i expected 402191;1386026557;ThickAsThieves;getting like $225+ for GPUs 402192;1386026579;pankkake;lol, they probably went up in price too 402193;1386026600;pankkake;usually stuff used for mining is considered half dead 402194;1386026621;ThickAsThieves;some is, the 7970 seems prone to this 402195;1386026630;ThickAsThieves;it gets all glitchy for normal use 402196;1386026712;mircea_popescu;225 seems insane, nvidia cards are better for gaming anywqay 402197;1386026731;mike_c;well, that was fun. experience gained, miner off. 402198;1386026745;kakobrekla;retired already? 402199;1386026749;mircea_popescu;lol 402200;1386026753;mike_c;can't afford it :) 402201;1386026765;mircea_popescu;he's off to buy the east indies on his accumulated mined coins 402202;1386026810;kakobrekla;i still use same gpu as in 2011 402203;1386026816;kakobrekla;mined howmany coins on it 402204;1386026826;kakobrekla;noone knows. 402205;1386026839;kakobrekla;a bunch. 402206;1386026843;Vexual;24/7ish? 402207;1386026871;kakobrekla;well its not mining any more but at the time yeah 402208;1386026872;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3304002 BTC [+] 402209;1386026876;kakobrekla;in a dedi rig 402210;1386026896;kakobrekla;then i moved it to my main box 402211;1386026926;Vexual;hashrate? 402212;1386026935;kakobrekla;its a 5770 OCed to shit 402213;1386026940;kakobrekla;255 mhash 402214;1386026967;kakobrekla;260 on a good day 402215;1386026977;kakobrekla;iirc 402216;1386027019;kakobrekla;anyway no glitches or anything and i abused the card a lot 402217;1386027032;mircea_popescu;sounds like a good amount of card. 402218;1386027037;kakobrekla;:p 402219;1386027055;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 30 @ 0.00386999 = 0.1161 BTC [+] {2} 402220;1386027111;Vexual;100 btc? 402221;1386027123;kakobrekla;a week 402222;1386027126;kakobrekla;:D 402223;1386027155;ThickAsThieves;"Making conversation at Thanksgiving can be hard, but apparently it's especially hard if you're an employee of the National Security Agency. So the agency has stepped in to solve the problem, issuing this list of approved talking points for fending off hostile relatives" 402224;1386027163;ThickAsThieves;http://dissenter.firedoglake.com/2013/12/02/nsa-sent-home-talking-points-for-employees-to-use-in-conversations-with-family-friends-during-holidays/ 402225;1386027163;ozbot;NSA Sent Home Talking Points for Employees to Use in Conversations with Family & Friends During Holi 402226;1386027197;ThickAsThieves;(1) NSA’s mission is of great value to the Nation”; (2) NSA performs its mission the right way—lawful, compliant and in a way that protects civil liberties and privacy; (3) NSA performs its mission exceptionally well. We strive to be the best that we can be, because that’s what America requires as part of its defense in a dangerous world; (4) The people who work for NSA are 402227;1386027197;ThickAsThieves;loyal Americans with expert skills who make sacrifices to help protect the freedoms we all cherish; (5) NSA is committed to increased transparency, public dialog and faithful implementation of any changes required by our overseers. (No emphasis added. Underlines appear in the document.) 402228;1386027264;ThickAsThieves;delusionists 402229;1386027272;Vexual;snowden didnt get that memo 402230;1386027370;thestringpuller;some of the stuff mircea_popescu says is like listening to the buddha speak lol 402231;1386027379;thestringpuller;kakobrekla: why u no hustle hard? 402232;1386027381;thestringpuller;oh yea 402233;1386027385;thestringpuller;you a big meanie 402234;1386027464;mircea_popescu;lol this is nsa crap so soviet oy vey. 402235;1386027482;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 39 @ 0.00340045 = 0.1326 BTC [-] {2} 402236;1386027494;thestringpuller;except america isn't at all socialist in any way 402237;1386027495;thestringpuller;?* 402238;1386027614;ThickAsThieves;i asked a black guy if he was related to a famous black guy that he looks very similar to, his response "defining features don't equal relation at least not typically" is he a grump, or did i cross some kinda they-all-look-the-same line? 402239;1386027885;dub;was the similarity in his big lips/wide node/sloping forehead/big penis? 402240;1386027891;dub;s/node/nose 402241;1386027908;dub;if so, you racis 402242;1386027916;asciilifeform;countdown to when they start fitting employees with Columbian collars...? 402243;1386027928;ThickAsThieves;the dude looks just like Frank Faison from the Wire 402244;1386027942;ThickAsThieves;pretty distinctive looking black dude 402245;1386028036;kakobrekla;thestringpuller what do ya mean? 402246;1386028136;thestringpuller;i just trollin' i should stop. 402247;1386028137;truffles;TAT yea but u think they all look a like 402248;1386028154;thestringpuller;kakobrekla: you work behind the scenes i guess 402249;1386028165;thestringpuller;making sure the gears turn 402250;1386028196;ThickAsThieves;at least 2 of em look alike, s'all i'm syain 402251;1386028210;kakobrekla;i just grease the assbot. 402252;1386028221;truffles;its still amazing? 402253;1386028221;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 402254;1386028269;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ssi3r-MoJM 402255;1386028270;ozbot;Rake - S1E8 Tax Charges clip - YouTube 402256;1386028440;truffles;2nd clip of shocker ending Vexual! 402257;1386028519;mircea_popescu;i wonder what happens come 2016 when some republican gets elected us president if obama announces he "won't enforce" the new presidency. 402258;1386028579;ThickAsThieves;http://news.yahoo.com/photos/genetic-portraits-how-much-do-you-and-your-family-members-really-look-alike-slideshow/ 402259;1386028580;ozbot;Genetic portraits: How much do you and your family members really look alike? 402260;1386028615;truffles;are u gonna have a moment`? 402261;1386028624;dub;motherfuckers be line steppin 402262;1386028650;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: same thing that will happen if kermit the frog clamps his teeth around the hand inside his arse and drags it out. 402263;1386028672;mircea_popescu;lol 402264;1386028730;truffles;TAT thats freaky 402265;1386028869;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves that kinda reminds me of the one time i got a buncha romanian blogger's faces and symmetrized them 402266;1386028869;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2009/simetrie-online/ 402267;1386028870;ozbot;Simetrie online pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 402268;1386028943;Vexual;That kinda reminds me of winmorph 1.0 402269;1386029037;ThickAsThieves;i like this stuff 402270;1386029058;mircea_popescu;http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/sM5v5UDTc40zX8mb_uGHCA--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTY3MjtweW9mZj0wO3E9NzU7dz02NzI-/http://l.yimg.com/os/publish-images/news/2013-08-13/797f86ae-ff44-4f66-b0b8-f2d44a7f4b70_Catherine-Ve-ronique.jpg 402271;1386029059;turbo_ac100_;ah cool oglaf on trilema! 402272;1386029063;mircea_popescu;freakiest chick ever. 402273;1386029068;mircea_popescu;turbo_ac100_ im a huge fan. 402274;1386029091;turbo_ac100_;rightfully so! 402275;1386029177;turbo_ac100_;rightly so... f'in english! 402276;1386029232;truffles;related story, waking up one day with 10-centimeter tumor where u cant sleep .. 402277;1386029252;deadweasel;that picture hurts my brain mircea_popescu 402278;1386029276;mircea_popescu;deadweasel she wants to blind date you. 402279;1386029279;mircea_popescu;you date her, you go blind. 402280;1386029287;Vexual;http://img0.joyreactor.com/pics/post/gif-face-wtf-morph-548820.gif 402281;1386029288;deadweasel;she's going to have to. 402282;1386029326;truffles;cuz u only date 10's? 402283;1386029347;deadweasel;as of friday, yes. 402284;1386029355;truffles;haha gl 402285;1386029429;deadweasel;any of you eastern europeans been treated with Bacteriophage? 402286;1386029515;mircea_popescu;it's quite rare deadweasel. 402287;1386029516;Vexual;the 10 got boils? 402288;1386029556;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.10500004 = 0.21 BTC [+] {2} 402289;1386029592;truffles;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzdwfwuVWUU well done id say 402290;1386029593;ozbot;Bacteriophage animation - YouTube 402291;1386029617;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.112249 = 0.2245 BTC [+] {2} 402292;1386029792;truffles;http://www.cbsnews.com/news/pancreatic-cancer-risk-increases-with-every-2-strips-of-bacon-you-eat-study/ oh my 402293;1386029793;ozbot;Pancreatic cancer risk increases with every 2 strips of bacon you eat: Study - CBS News 402294;1386029852;Duffer1_;nooooOOOOO :( 402295;1386029881;truffles;study 2012, conditions mightve changed 402296;1386029893;Vexual;pancreatic cancer risk increases with every two steps you take 402297;1386029932;truffles;i was just looking if there was a non scanner way to tell if uve got cancer.. 402298;1386029983;Duffer1_;trained dog for certain cancers 402299;1386029986;truffles;Jack Andraka i know is working on some test strips.. 402300;1386030014;truffles;but im not likely to have those he's testing .. 402301;1386030035;dub;isnt there a recent genetic breakthrough that we are the result of a monkey fucking a pig 402302;1386030040;Vexual;cancer isn't much of a problem until you're dead, then it's less of a problem 402303;1386030071;dub;we don't eat a lot of monkey, perhaps the jews are right 402304;1386030084;truffles;0.o 402305;1386030100;ThickAsThieves;heh 402306;1386030228;mircea_popescu;dub i dunno but i've seen this new thanksgiving nonsense where they cut a turkey and a pigglet and put the halves together 402307;1386030334;ThickAsThieves;http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2515969/Humans-evolved-female-chimpanzee-mated-pig-Extraordinary-claim-American-geneticist.html 402308;1386030335;ozbot;'Humans evolved after a female chimpanzee mated with a pig': Extraordinary claim made by American ge 402309;1386030343;ThickAsThieves;the male was the pig! 402310;1386030351;ThickAsThieves;not expected 402311;1386030371;mircea_popescu;what's this, lysenko ? 402312;1386030386;Vexual;divergent evolution is so 2012 402313;1386030392;truffles;pig for the white, chimp for the black, makes sense 402314;1386030484;ThickAsThieves;is this theory not testable? 402315;1386030496;ThickAsThieves;or have pigs and mokeys evolved too much 402316;1386030627;Vexual;theres not enough fossil record to reverse engineer our evolution 402317;1386030692;Vexual;and one would expect to see similar hybridisations in lower animals before putting that forward 402318;1386030731;truffles;maybe its a publish or perish kinda thing ya know 402319;1386030740;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves you could use your bitcoin fortune to endow a monkey pigfucking farm 402320;1386030842;Vexual;maybe its a crackpipe kinda thing 402321;1386030961;ThickAsThieves;maybe Jeff Bezos would buy my farm 402322;1386030975;ThickAsThieves;so which side of the brain is monkey/pig? 402323;1386030981;ThickAsThieves;http://www.npr.org/blogs/13.7/2013/12/02/248089436/the-truth-about-the-left-brain-right-brain-relationship 402324;1386030981;ozbot;The Truth About The Left Brain / Right Brain Relationship : 13.7: Cosmos And Culture : NPR 402325;1386030987;Vexual;you could get some elephants and dolphins and see if you get dugongs 402326;1386030997;ThickAsThieves;It makes sense to have specialized brain regions, just as it makes sense to have divisions of labor in other areas of life. But why have specialized hemispheres? 402327;1386031003;ThickAsThieves;cuz pigs! 402328;1386031008;mircea_popescu;get hipos and dolphins 402329;1386031014;mircea_popescu;they're practically the same lineage. 402330;1386031039;ThickAsThieves;maybe apes and boars, for bigger humans 402331;1386031055;ThickAsThieves;or king kongs! 402332;1386031085;mircea_popescu;im sure pig meant boar hog. 402333;1386031095;mircea_popescu;they didn't have basna back then 402334;1386031099;Vexual;maybe start with something like a coral 402335;1386031142;ThickAsThieves;well they attribute our smooth skin to the pig 402336;1386031148;ThickAsThieves;and arent boars hairy? 402337;1386031164;truffles;dailymail though 402338;1386031165;ThickAsThieves;arent all pigs hairy? 402339;1386031192;mircea_popescu;nah 402340;1386031200;mircea_popescu;see mangalitsa 402341;1386031286;ThickAsThieves;no wonder it had to rape a monkey to get laid 402342;1386031326;truffles;if this theory were true would ur mind be blown 402343;1386031397;ThickAsThieves;no 402344;1386031399;Vexual;yes 402345;1386031402;ThickAsThieves;i dont care at all 402346;1386031413;truffles;u care 402347;1386031426;truffles;this is crazy stuff! 402348;1386031430;ThickAsThieves;if some pig humped some monkey ages ago? 402349;1386031436;ThickAsThieves;nah 402350;1386031497;mircea_popescu;it's patent nonsense anyway. suines and hominides aren't sexuyally compatible. 402351;1386031509;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 17 @ 0.33987745 = 5.7779 BTC [+] {4} 402352;1386031547;truffles;dubs his theory the 'Monkey-F******-A-Pig hypothesis' 402353;1386031551;truffles;hmm 402354;1386031584;kakobrekla;its either monkey-pig or monkey-monkey 402355;1386031599;kakobrekla;no difference basically 402356;1386031638;kakobrekla;ok ok, pig-pig also. 402357;1386031689;truffles;if no holes in science, these theories wouldnt come to light 402358;1386031692;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.34698733 = 1.041 BTC [+] {2} 402359;1386031722;deadweasel;if no holes in people. people wouldn't come about. 402360;1386031730;truffles;haha 402361;1386031754;deadweasel;https://ghostbin.com/paste/oweqm 402362;1386031755;ozbot;oweqm - Ghostbin 402363;1386031775;deadweasel;this is me trying to understand what might be a good idea. 402364;1386031816;Vexual;http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=202_1232911143 402365;1386031816;ozbot;LiveLeak.com - Drunk Wildlife 402366;1386031833;truffles;whats with the blockchain storage.. 402367;1386031846;truffles;i hear there's child porn snips in it.. 402368;1386031896;truffles;this is something the bitcoin foundation should take care of 402369;1386031930;deadweasel;truffles, please don't speak so much 402370;1386031940;truffles;:( 402371;1386031958;deadweasel;or think first, either way 402372;1386031971;truffles;well its not "technically" done but still 402373;1386032097;mircea_popescu;truffles you can add some child porn to the blockchain yourself. 402374;1386032128;truffles;im saying it should be removed.. 402375;1386032159;kakobrekla;more interesting would be if we can find an algo that would decrpyt the moons surface to some CP pix or vid 402376;1386032163;kakobrekla;BAN THE MOON! 402377;1386032240;ThickAsThieves;ban the internet 402378;1386032245;ThickAsThieves;look at all the damage its done 402379;1386032266;mircea_popescu;well at least, if we're contemplating the task of censoring the blockchain, i would say the bitcoin foundation is a well chosen agent. 402380;1386032289;truffles;only extreme cases 402381;1386032291;mircea_popescu;rarely a more insurmountable task was met by a less apt entity. 402382;1386032308;Duffer1_;hehe 402383;1386032311;mircea_popescu;it's like (bfl making asics) ^ of itself 402384;1386032318;mircea_popescu;;;calc (bfl making asics) ** (bfl making asics) 402385;1386032319;gribble;Error: invalid syntax (, line 1) 402386;1386032323;Vexual;youve never seen me bicycle home from the pub 402387;1386032369;asciilifeform;let's censor the digits of pi, while we're at it. 402388;1386032390;kakobrekla;only if its in CP 402389;1386032409;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform here's a theorem : for any jpg representation of a six year old riding a tumescent pig penis, 402390;1386032429;mircea_popescu;there exists a natural number indicating the first pi decimal at which that jpg representation can be found 402391;1386032437;asciilifeform;simon plouffe proved already. 402392;1386032439;mircea_popescu;whole and unabridged 402393;1386032449;mircea_popescu;ayup. 402394;1386032458;kakobrekla;heh 402395;1386032521;asciilifeform;only problem is that said offset is typically much longer than the payload. but this may not be a problem for this use case. 402396;1386032546;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform i vaguely recall that as long as the payload is finite, so is the offset 402397;1386032554;mircea_popescu;but i don't remember who proved that one 402398;1386032568;asciilifeform;here's the fun part 402399;1386032573;asciilifeform;not part of the proof, afaik 402400;1386032589;asciilifeform;if you can put up with lossiness, you make the search considerably easier. 402401;1386032598;mircea_popescu;a good point 402402;1386032615;asciilifeform;the offset where the digits, using some straightforward bitmap view, can be Roscharched into the pic, is probably findable. 402403;1386032648;mircea_popescu;i change to "a recognisable depiction" 402404;1386032650;asciilifeform;'pi pr0n search service.' 402405;1386032663;asciilifeform;who needs mersenne primes! 402406;1386032683;mircea_popescu;this should be a xkcd 402407;1386032692;mircea_popescu;"what are you doing all by yourself in the dark ?!" 402408;1386032705;mircea_popescu;"scanning the pi decimals for lez prons" 402409;1386032864;mircea_popescu;btw, butthurt re the bbp : https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sci.math.symbolic/a3kVKVYJhgc 402410;1386032866;kakobrekla;just scan the moon with a qr gun until you get a small boy with a penis 402411;1386032897;kakobrekla;and with that line ill be leaving 402412;1386032899;kakobrekla;nite 402413;1386032914;deadweasel;nite 402414;1386033041;truffles;so much downside to drinking alcohol 402415;1386033107;truffles;this "idea" so advance.. 402416;1386033218;truffles;things that are easier to keep track of are hmmm 402417;1386033237;Vexual;just 22/7 and use your imagination 402418;1386033522;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 38 @ 0.00343761 = 0.1306 BTC [+] {4} 402419;1386033593;mircea_popescu;http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/12/02/article-2517058-19CA120700000578-85_970x1361.jpg 402420;1386033597;mircea_popescu;pig theory proven 402421;1386033731;asciilifeform;unrelated: http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/elements/2013/11/the-fda-vs-personal-genetic-testing.html 402422;1386034274;dub; is this theory not testable? 402423;1386034316;dub;I would hope somewhere someone is trying to prove it by mating pigs and monkeys 402424;1386034327;mircea_popescu;and pandas. 402425;1386034341;dub;mate all the things 402426;1386034487;Duffer1_;https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=8639.0 402427;1386034498;Duffer1_;Ciphertrade 402428;1386034518;BingoBoingo;Can an S.PigFuckingaMonkeyFuckingaPanda be far away? I might have to see if Cryptostocks will list it... 402429;1386034529;asciilifeform;notably missing is: slavecoin. 402430;1386034571;truffles;Dr McCarthy thinks "the human race is a very good thing" so he may be wrong on others 402431;1386034662;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform so what was the response, "fuck you, we'll sell fior bitcoin " ? 402432;1386034788;asciilifeform;'23' being a u.s. corp, the response will probably be: doggy submission. followed by death. 402433;1386034823;truffles;Primecoin sounds nice 402434;1386034831;mircea_popescu;"We have received the warning letter from the Food and Drug Administration. We recognize that we have not met the FDAs expectations regarding timeline and communication regarding our submission. Our relationship with the FDA is extremely important to us and we are committed to fully engaging with them to address their concerns." 402435;1386034843;mircea_popescu;meh. grow some backbone, ye land of the free ppls! 402436;1386034843;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform mircea_popescu: Well it is run by on of the Googler's spouses so I imagine it will meet the same fate as so many google related projects... 402437;1386034866;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: word is that mr. B has a new fucktoy 402438;1386034873;asciilifeform;and so 23 has lost its 'roof'. 402439;1386034892;asciilifeform;hence this turn of events. 402440;1386035018;mircea_popescu;"we have received large amounts of unsolicited mailings from various poseurs. sorting through all this crap takes time which would be better used otherwise. we are uninterested in the volunteered opinions of self-styled authorities, we intend to retain experts for answering any questions we may need answered and ingore anything else" 402441;1386035021;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Well, I would have imagined it would just get ignored into oblivion. Then again unlike actually Google products they have an actual revenue stream in the form of recurring billing to maintain access to your results. 402442;1386035049;nubbins`;http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Roll-of-50-Casascius-2012-5-BTC-Blank-coins-Unfunded-Roll-your-own-/261345344416?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item3cd9657ba0&_uhb=1 402443;1386035050;ozbot;Roll OF 50 Casascius 2012 5 BTC Blank Coins Unfunded Roll Your OWN | eBay 402444;1386035063;asciilifeform;in other news, u.s. corps wake up to the fact that model choppers can deliver packages: http://www.amazon.com/b?ref_=tsm_1_tw_s_amzn_mx3eqp&node=8037720011 402445;1386035065;nubbins`;^ sweet, they come with their own private keys and addresses so you don't need to worry about generating your own 402446;1386035076;asciilifeform;but hung up on red tape. 402447;1386035095;nubbins`;i'd get food delivered by drone, no sweat 402448;1386035097;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform remember the old laser-in-eye terrorism post ? 402449;1386035108;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.0007851 = 4.7106 BTC [-] {2} 402450;1386035117;mircea_popescu;seems that's not exactly how it works out. market favours the "meth from the sky" approach 402451;1386035128;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: sure. down the chimney. 402452;1386035142;mircea_popescu;by the time the average city has > 100k of these in air at any given time 402453;1386035155;Vexual;im already prining the chimney qr codes 402454;1386035156;mircea_popescu;it'll be a riot to keep pumping the "nsa is doing an excellent job tracking everything!!1" 402455;1386035257;asciilifeform;of course, 'dead drop' solves the SR delivery problem, but it isn't techno-sexy 402456;1386035262;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform you are telling me that http://assets.makers.com/maker/Anne_Wojcicki_IMG_5679_A.jpg was dsomeone's fuck toy ?! 402457;1386035266;mircea_popescu;or did you mean fuckboy 402458;1386035292;asciilifeform;was... 402459;1386035316;mircea_popescu;get out of here. 402460;1386035318;Vexual;you get a portion of the btc delivery fee when you `obtain` and maintain a mesh drone 402461;1386035335;mircea_popescu;when, before google listed ?! 402462;1386035404;asciilifeform;the choppers are easy to build, one fellow i know cobbled together a classic design that lifts several full soda cans. 402463;1386035429;asciilifeform;putters along for 1/2 hr. or so. 402464;1386035456;asciilifeform;what changed? cheap 3-axis gyros. 402465;1386035462;Vexual;from phones 402466;1386035463;BingoBoingo;Maybe someone will scale up this idea to fire paintballs at any lenses mounted on drones http://trilema.com/2013/since-you-boys-are-printing-tanks-now/ 402467;1386035466;mircea_popescu;the cost per lb hour of chopper should be in the 5 to 10 cents range, once you get it mass produced. 402468;1386035498;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo usg drone fighting rc planes is definitely the thing of the future. 402469;1386035504;mircea_popescu;pewpewpew 402470;1386035527;Vexual;30 minutes, or next time it's not windy 402471;1386035532;asciilifeform;the pill for usg drones: sail right into the tailpipe. 402472;1386035538;asciilifeform;no need for bullet 402473;1386035542;mircea_popescu;(actually, i wonder what a rc plane equiped with 4 ounces of acetone and a sparker would do to a drone carrying a missile) 402474;1386035581;Vexual;take off the paint? 402475;1386035598;asciilifeform;magnet, thermite. 402476;1386035633;Vexual;im pretty sure anyone who might actually want to down a drone would have better explosives 402477;1386035678;Vexual;and an rc plane is relly just another drone 402478;1386035678;asciilifeform;the famous (u.s.) drones are very much tooled for unarmed targets that can't afford so much as a binocular. 402479;1386035704;Vexual;lot of good binoculars are going to do 402480;1386035715;asciilifeform;no defenses, to speak of, no maneuvering ability. 402481;1386035728;BingoBoingo;Vexual: thermite is simple and avoids all of the pretense concerning explosives. That the ingredients are essentially rust and aluminum powder or filings means preventing its production is impossible. 402482;1386035758;asciilifeform;in the immortal words of an airplane designer: what can two machines do that no one, no matter how costly, cannot? 402483;1386035761;asciilifeform;be in two places. 402484;1386035766;asciilifeform;now try 1000 places... 402485;1386035797;mircea_popescu;http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/42/S-100-OE-VXX.jpg 402486;1386035810;mircea_popescu;i dunno... this thing doesn;'t look like a little flame throwing would take its paint off 402487;1386035816;mircea_popescu;it looks more like the end for gracie. 402488;1386035829;asciilifeform;scale? 402489;1386035833;mircea_popescu;large unprotected air intake 402490;1386035840;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3624 @ 0.00078401 = 2.8413 BTC [-] {2} 402491;1386035852;Vexual;honey! did you order something from amazBOOM! 402492;1386035863;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform 3m long, 100kgs 402493;1386035879;mircea_popescu;its the S-100 model modified 402494;1386035892;mircea_popescu;http://www.schiebel.net/ 402495;1386035894;ozbot;Home - Schiebel 402496;1386035945;asciilifeform;death from the air would be a little scarier if they so much as managed to get gps spoofing off the table. 402497;1386035985;Vexual;u can gps upside down with lasers 402498;1386035993;asciilifeform;i'd like to see what one of these does near... an ordinary spark gap. 402499;1386036032;Vexual;do they make a cargo model? 402500;1386036065;asciilifeform;Vexual: that's nearly an adult chopper, not comparable to the miniatures at all. 402501;1386036365;Vexual;yeah, fly em outta peru 402502;1386036409;Vexual;alibaba had some long range winged drones last year 402503;1386036413;Vexual;no longer 402504;1386036433;asciilifeform;Vexual: your local toy store still has them. 402505;1386036441;Vexual;big fuckers 402506;1386036442;asciilifeform;just needs a little extra sweat. 402507;1386036607;dub;gps spoofing is wild 402508;1386036614;dub;supposed to be pretty easy 402509;1386036633;asciilifeform;dub: why perforate enemy, take him home as a pet. 402510;1386036668;dub;rf hardening would be another question 402511;1386036712;asciilifeform;dub: the notion of rf-hardening a widget that includes a large antenna is a curious one. 402512;1386036775;dub;presumably you would harden in the defensive direction (down) while leaving a channel on the harder to target side (up) 402513;1386036789;Vexual;its not actually large though is it 402514;1386036829;asciilifeform;dub: the hypothetical was: a toystore chopper limpets on to the larger one. what ought to be in the former. 402515;1386036891;mircea_popescu;acetone im telling you. 402516;1386036902;asciilifeform;one fun possibility: toy turns its rotors 90 deg., they turn into... windmill generators. 402517;1386036905;asciilifeform;for the spark gap... 402518;1386036985;dub;cheaper yet, a parachute 402519;1386036992;Vexual;a magnet and a parachute 402520;1386037013;asciilifeform;need an uncommonly solid grip, for a drogue chute. 402521;1386037029;dub;of course they can probably mitigate it when they realise telemetry is not lining up wth flight plan 402522;1386037047;asciilifeform;flight plan, from the moment of limpeting, should be 'vertical.' 402523;1386037086;dub;not if for a rotating wing 402524;1386037091;dub;it'll just limp a bit 402525;1386037108;Vexual;aluminium magnets are expensive too 402526;1386037113;asciilifeform;dub: for rotating wing, payload is: piano wire. 402527;1386037128;dub;hard to deploy right 402528;1386037134;Vexual;a long one 402529;1386037135;dub;thermite wins anyway 402530;1386037146;asciilifeform;no magnets for Al. nail gun. 402531;1386037158;Vexual;better make that 1st shot count 402532;1386037189;dub;if you're aiming a gun make it an rf gun 402533;1386037197;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform actually, horse hair 402534;1386037197;asciilifeform;for choppers, fly two toys, trailing piano wire between. 402535;1386037202;dub;otherwise the limpet needs to aquire taret and track 402536;1386037204;mircea_popescu;give it a slow death 402537;1386037208;Vexual;the theif could trail the piano wire in its path and hope for the tangle 402538;1386037244;asciilifeform;fishing line may even work, considering what will happen when the rotor winds it up. 402539;1386037275;mircea_popescu;yup 402540;1386037290;asciilifeform;(suggested experiment: two tennis balls, fishing line, an old-style uncaged metal fan, an open field.) 402541;1386037294;mircea_popescu;usualyl in this sort of situation flexible > rigid 402542;1386037296;dub;I think you're going to need to get real lucky to tangle a cord in the prop 402543;1386037305;dub;need to attack from above basically 402544;1386037318;mircea_popescu;dub not if your fishing wire is part of a net. 402545;1386037320;Vexual;is that a little raddome on the top of tail? 402546;1386037342;asciilifeform;Vexual: sat uplink 402547;1386037342;Vexual;halfway down the tail 402548;1386037396;Vexual;or is that for shaft lube? 402549;1386037403;asciilifeform;before you know it, we're back to 1930s state of the art: barrage balloon. 402550;1386037439;Vexual;it can climb with better conmtrol than descend 402551;1386037479;asciilifeform;usg drone is built for specific work: plug unarmed man, in open field, by surprise. 402552;1386037489;asciilifeform;to expect that it will be sent to do some other job is odd. 402553;1386037497;asciilifeform;a different machine is called for, and will appear. 402554;1386037639;asciilifeform;rf is a more interesting countermeasure than pyrotechnics, because enemy machines can travel by land, sea, hell, sewer line, and not only by air. 402555;1386037656;asciilifeform;solve the general case. 402556;1386037733;Vexual;sewer drone? 402557;1386037756;asciilifeform;when the bureaucrats say 'asymmetric war' and piss their pants, they aren't specifically thinking of bedouins with ak 402558;1386037756;diametric;ah discussing the news about amazons drone delivery publicity stunt? 402559;1386037767;asciilifeform;but rather, anyone who can out-think the idiots. 402560;1386037807;mircea_popescu;where the idiots are themselves. 402561;1386037817;asciilifeform;naturally 402562;1386037819;mircea_popescu;"this war is asymetric in that the enemy chooses to not make the same exact mistakes we do" 402563;1386037823;Vexual;never heard of him 402564;1386037836;mircea_popescu;in this sense the us rebellion was asymmetric as seen from king george's palace. 402565;1386037890;asciilifeform;asymmetric: 'we are rich, they - poor, they oughta roll over and die fair and square.' 402566;1386037896;mircea_popescu;lol 402567;1386037901;mircea_popescu;pretty much. 402568;1386037923;Vexual;war? what war? 402569;1386037944;asciilifeform;Vexual: 'you may not be interested in war, but war is quite interested in you.' 402570;1386037973;Vexual;ALL the money? 402571;1386038035;Vexual;is that one of yours ascii? 402572;1386038039;asciilifeform;nope. 402573;1386038046;asciilifeform;trotsky! 402574;1386038062;Vexual;never heard of him 402575;1386038092;asciilifeform;btw, at the current max range of toy drone, one could achieve very similar results with: catapult. 402576;1386038105;Vexual;or a tennis ball 402577;1386038116;asciilifeform;(for product delivery, of things that don't mind being thrown) 402578;1386038121;asciilifeform;like most SR cargo. 402579;1386038126;Vexual;or an avalon 402580;1386038148;diametric;I really doubt that will ever come to fruition. It's just publicity. There's no way their attorneys are going to sign off on something thats going to have that much liability. 402581;1386038171;asciilifeform;diametric: it will be done. by people who don't care for legalities. 402582;1386038176;diametric;The potential damage to property and lives will be way to high. Anything strong enough to carry 5 pound packages is strong enough to kill someone. 402583;1386038178;diametric;asciilifeform: yeah 402584;1386038216;diametric;I still have faint scars from when I was playing with that one larger multirotor. 402585;1386038234;asciilifeform;everybody who builds toy choppers has the characteristic scars. 402586;1386038244;diametric;Or worse, there 402587;1386038250;diametric;There have been several deaths just this last year from them 402588;1386038275;asciilifeform;'here comes the candle, to light you to bed. here comes the chopper, to chop off your head.' 402589;1386038291;Vexual;i lost one, fled immediately 402590;1386038354;asciilifeform;in the unlikely event of the 'legit' vendors using choppers, they'll go for enclosed airscrews. 'ufo' shape. 402591;1386038399;Vexual;remeber this bit of cgi genius? 402592;1386038400;asciilifeform;a modern Diogenes will die comically, 'ipad' crate falling on his head instead of turtle. 402593;1386038405;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNPJMk2fgJU 402594;1386038405;ozbot;Prototype Quadrotor with Machine Gun - YouTube 402595;1386038424;asciilifeform;Vexual: this was widely believed, because they don't teach newton's 3rd law any more... 402596;1386038516;mike_c;;;seen BingoBoingo 402597;1386038516;gribble;BingoBoingo was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 46 minutes and 28 seconds ago: Vexual: thermite is simple and avoids all of the pretense concerning explosives. That the ingredients are essentially rust and aluminum powder or filings means preventing its production is impossible. 402598;1386038537;BingoBoingo;I'm here mike_c 402599;1386038553;mike_c;glad to see the gpg section! very useful stuff. 402600;1386038615;mike_c;i have recommended it to several people 402601;1386038648;BingoBoingo;Thanks mike_c 402602;1386038697;mircea_popescu;speaking of the diogene, 402603;1386038698;mircea_popescu;https://www.google.com/search?q=woman+spear+piss&complete=0&source=lnms&tbm=isch 402604;1386038760;Vexual;never heard of him 402605;1386038968;KRS|gotyawallet;Gribble: magnesium in thermite too i think 402606;1386039099;diametric;KRS|gotyawallet: its used to ignite thermite 402607;1386039420;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCnGuvLax3Y 402608;1386039421;ozbot;GARNETT SILK I AM VEX - YouTube 402609;1386039508;Vexual;wrap the mag around a sparkler and flee 402610;1386039576;Vexual;factory stuff has mag and oxidised al 402611;1386039594;Vexual;and anti caking agent 402612;1386039633;asciilifeform;Vexual: and some taggants, likely, for 'smartasses' 402613;1386039822;Vexual;perhaps i was thinking of my multivitamin 402614;1386040119;nubbins`;re: drone copters 402615;1386040126;nubbins`;you can thank nintendo for cheap gyro sensors 402616;1386040148;Vexual;i thought that was pressure sensors? 402617;1386040150;thestringpuller;nubbins`: you mean apple 402618;1386040158;thestringpuller;nubbins` nubbins` nubbins` 402619;1386040166;thestringpuller;nub wub nubby dubby dub nubbins` 402620;1386040167;nubbins`;consider that a wii motion plus attachment fits in a child's hand, costs $25, and can track acceleration and movement along 3 axes 402621;1386040181;nubbins`;and communicates via serial 402622;1386040185;thestringpuller;wii motion plus you mean 402623;1386040190;nubbins`;nod 402624;1386040195;Vexual;i think iphone had it b4 wiimote 402625;1386040199;nubbins`;ah, maybe 402626;1386040205;nubbins`;but wiimore is an OTS solution 402627;1386040208;nubbins`;*wiimote 402628;1386040228;nubbins`;seriously, a motionplus and an arduino sets you back maybe $50-60 402629;1386040248;nubbins`;and it's more than enough to keep a quadcopter in the air 402630;1386040250;Vexual;nintendo were the first to mass produce such accurate pressure sensores as in thw wiifit board 402631;1386040262;nubbins`;yeah, mass production is key 402632;1386040269;nubbins`;3-axis gyros were around too 402633;1386040277;nubbins`;nintendo brought the economy of scale 402634;1386040290;Vexual;really? 402635;1386040301;Vexual;i always thought it was the other way around 402636;1386040373;nubbins`;ah, hm 402637;1386040385;nubbins`;i am kind of just making this up 402638;1386040390;Vexual;you're probably right nintendo>smartphone>gyrocopter 402639;1386040398;nubbins`;but that's what it seemed like in my head 402640;1386040414;nubbins`;anyway, there are tons of videos of people using wiimotes and nunchuks to control robots 402641;1386040523;Vexual;no, its the phone 402642;1386040553;nubbins`;you can probably just get gyro arduino shields for cheaper than a wiimote now anyway 402643;1386040622;Vexual;wiimotes must cost a bit, they dont even give you one with a u 402644;1386040636;nubbins`;that's because they give you a $250 controller with your u 402645;1386040643;nubbins`;and everyone with a u has an original wii ;D 402646;1386040651;nubbins`;altho i agree it's pretty stingy 402647;1386040660;Vexual;yeah, so return customers only 402648;1386040674;Vexual;and you cant sell your wii with no controllers 402649;1386040682;nubbins`;heh, nope 402650;1386040698;nubbins`;great if you have a wii and your buddy has a u, tho 402651;1386040705;nubbins`;5-player games 402652;1386040730;nubbins`;some of the minigames in wii u party or w/e the bundled game is called are pretty cool 402653;1386040831;Vexual;i was looking forward to watchdogs on u sooner 402654;1386040871;Vexual;fuck the multiplayer and take my money 402655;1386040929;thestringpuller;Vexual you and everyone else in the gaming world. 402656;1386040930;Vexual;and wheres zelda? 402657;1386041004;Vexual;i want giant spiders! 402658;1386041064;nubbins`;giant spiders D: 402659;1386041070;nubbins`;would rather giant sliders 402660;1386041101;nubbins`;aka regular-sized hamburgers 402661;1386041196;Vexual;i made fist burritos and got food poisoning 402662;1386041218;Vexual;you never siad wash your knuckes 402663;1386041219;nubbins`;turns out the friction from your strikes wasn't enough to denature the proteins? 402664;1386041228;Vexual;maybe that was it 402665;1386041231;nubbins`;try soaking your fists in lemon juice first. 402666;1386041283;Vexual;and punch harder? 402667;1386041381;nubbins`;nod 402668;1386041382;nubbins`;always 402669;1386041396;Vexual;id send you the log, but it's not really a log 402670;1386041484;Vexual;smarthouse my arse 402671;1386041574;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3926 @ 0.00078401 = 3.078 BTC [-] {2} 402672;1386041623;Vexual;im putting wiifit sensors under my toilets 402673;1386041635;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 51 @ 0.00343998 = 0.1754 BTC [+] {2} 402674;1386041688;Vexual;check your guests for scoliosis 402675;1386041709;Vexual;and intestinal fortitude 402676;1386041949;Vexual;try that with an xbox, you'd be arrested 402677;1386042348;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glPTmDWDzLw 402678;1386042349;ozbot;Eek A Mouse - Schizophrenic.MP4 - YouTube 402679;1386042625;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bxjdg_D5YQY 402680;1386042625;ozbot;Wiley - Wearing My Rolex (Official Music Video) - YouTube 402681;1386042782;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTF7T1Nw5OU 402682;1386042783;ozbot;SuperHeavy - Miracle Worker - YouTube 402683;1386042794;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 4251 @ 0.00040766 = 1.733 BTC [+] {5} 402684;1386043112;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEPTlhBmwRg 7 402685;1386043112;ozbot;Maroon 5 - Moves Like Jagger ft. Christina Aguilera - YouTube 402686;1386043384;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeIJmciN8mo 62 402687;1386043384;ozbot;Nicki Minaj - Starships (Explicit) - YouTube 402688;1386043465;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4224 @ 0.00078278 = 3.3065 BTC [-] 402689;1386043642;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOwblaKmyVw 889 402690;1386043643;ozbot;Miley Cyrus - The Backyard Sessions - "Jolene" - YouTube 402691;1386043764;mircea_popescu;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=350103.msg3799078#msg3799078 402692;1386043766;ozbot;[Mpex.co] The biggest scam in bitcoin history? 402693;1386043786;mircea_popescu;this is pretty funny, guy now wants to work for me, admits he couldn't do as good a job as thje girl. 402694;1386043791;mircea_popescu;fascinating capitalism 402695;1386043803;asciilifeform;prescribe: seppuku? 402696;1386043825;Vexual;let him sweep the floor with no pay 402697;1386043827;asciilifeform;seems like it was invented for such occasions. 402698;1386043855;mircea_popescu;no see, this is the main reason i like the capitalism-democracy combo : i don't have to do anything. 402699;1386043875;mircea_popescu;if you live in some sort of more or less republican tyrany it is incumbent upon you to take in all the idiots. 402700;1386043880;Vexual;thats not the most funny outcome 402701;1386043912;mircea_popescu;but if you live in the heartless-est system ever invented, you can just nod and ignore. 402702;1386043923;Vexual;gentlemen would have another bet 402703;1386043937;asciilifeform;why ignore when you can laugh. 402704;1386043939;KRS|gotyawallet;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdV-_FP079A 402705;1386043940;ozbot;Driicky Graham "Snapbacks & Tattoos" - YouTube 402706;1386043955;mircea_popescu;well yeah, but i meant from his perspective. obviously from my perspective i'm laughing 402707;1386043996;Vexual;im sure it says somewhere breaking any rule voids any bet 402708;1386044013;Vexual;double or nothing would be at least twice as funny 402709;1386044023;mircea_popescu;yet you know, in imperial japan or soviet russia or republican rome it is not acceptable for some guy to go "i have no skills master but i would like to work" and he not be taken in, trained and worked. 402710;1386044046;mircea_popescu;in a democracy it's quite natural. 402711;1386044060;mircea_popescu;i don't know of any system where labour capital has a lesser value. 402712;1386044087;Vexual;we all must work within a framework 402713;1386044125;Vexual;if you bump your head on the scaffold of a construction site, you havent much hoipoe 402714;1386044139;mircea_popescu;hoi poloi ? 402715;1386044154;Vexual;hoi 402716;1386044158;asciilifeform;well in 'democracy' a polizei will bite you on the arse if you employ the unskilled fellow for the wage he's worth. 402717;1386044168;Vexual;i foirgot to puit ino moi doil foirm 402718;1386044199;mircea_popescu;exactly. it's actually illegal in the democracy to improve the capital value of labour. 402719;1386044215;mircea_popescu;the entire point of the whole thing is to make it so people are worthless and stay worthless. 402720;1386044217;Vexual;depends how its done mp 402721;1386044223;KRS|gotyawallet;mircea_popescu: do you have an example of that? 402722;1386044235;mircea_popescu;Vexual yeah, inasmuch as it's done to exhaust the person without any benefit then it's acceptable. 402723;1386044256;mircea_popescu;KRS|gotyawallet well yes, the entire discussion started with an example. 402724;1386044351;Vexual;australia is an interesting case 402725;1386044356;KRS|gotyawallet;whre its illegal in a democracy to improve the capital value of labour? You mean pay a man more than a woman for certain types of jobs? 402726;1386044391;Vexual;apprently all our medical records were dutifully compiled into the prism database 402727;1386044412;Vexual;but theres a few unions that will dissappear a politician 402728;1386044417;mircea_popescu;KRS|gotyawallet no, i mean put them in a position where their abilities and knowledge actually improve so that they are objectively worth more. 402729;1386044457;KRS|gotyawallet;ok i see 402730;1386044465;KRS|gotyawallet;thanks i didnt understand 402731;1386044494;mircea_popescu;the process through which the antique adolescens solidified into vir, ie, a man, is the typical increase in value. it includes such experience as killing others, and being responsible for the self in new situations and so on. 402732;1386044522;mircea_popescu;similarly, but more politely, the process through which the medieval youth moved from unskilled apprentice to skilled journeyman to actual craftsman on his own is similar 402733;1386044582;mircea_popescu;these all include two things : adversative education, which is to say education done forcibly, without bothering with the consent of the educated, and political power. neither exist in a democracy, thus reducing the youth to this situation of neoteny. 402734;1386044632;Vexual;i was on my mobile phone doing deals at the back in 94 402735;1386044677;Vexual;ill shut the flip when im good and ready bitch 402736;1386044732;Vexual;were about 5-10 years off the real info revolution 402737;1386044814;KRS|gotyawallet;On one hand we are talking about value, as it applies to labour which probably applies better to the context of capitalism and on the other hand we're applying that toward a democracy which doesnt necessarily recognize value, but rather mob rule. 402738;1386044919;Vexual;shits gonna get monkeypig 402739;1386044921;mircea_popescu;you can't escape value as such. it's there whether your current viewpoint hides it or not. 402740;1386044937;Vexual;hides what? 402741;1386044948;mircea_popescu;http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_examiner/2013/12/millennial_narcissism_helicopter_parents_are_college_students_bigger_problem.html < take that as a convenient example. 402742;1386044948;ozbot;Millennial narcissism: Helicopter parents are college students’ bigger problem. 402743;1386044987;mircea_popescu;"amy" is not exactly tradeable for one random individual. she's worth less than the average of 7 billion, which is already pretty damning. 402744;1386045001;mircea_popescu;in fact she may well be worth zero. that's an achievement, for a live human. 402745;1386045027;Vexual;and a phd in some bullshit noone wants to read flags you as a kneeler 402746;1386045030;asciilifeform;nobody is worth zero, in the uranium mines of vorkuta. 402747;1386045033;KRS|gotyawallet;worth zero to the society that supports her 402748;1386045043;KRS|gotyawallet;haha asciilifeform 402749;1386045070;asciilifeform;the fellows who stuffed their gloves with detcord and blew, well, you don't need hands to tramp the dirt 402750;1386045079;asciilifeform;nobody's a zero, everyone a hero there. 402751;1386045123;KRS|gotyawallet;As is everyone who stuffs their bags with blow. 402752;1386045155;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform i doubt. 402753;1386045171;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htjnT_bq6Rw 402754;1386045172;ozbot;angela pamela wiya launch - YouTube 402755;1386045191;mircea_popescu;but this is the very point at hand : in the republican tyrani around vorkuta she might be discovered as somewhat valuable. in her hometown @ democracy, she's exactly zero. 402756;1386045206;Vexual;tending 402757;1386045213;mircea_popescu;KRS|gotyawallet no, worth zero intrinsically. 402758;1386045222;KRS|gotyawallet;right 402759;1386045228;KRS|gotyawallet;Vexual: they speak funny there. 402760;1386045242;Vexual;thats my country brother 402761;1386045260;KRS|gotyawallet;I was just having trouble understanding the worth of labour as it applies to democracy, which is more suited for a discussion about capitalism. 402762;1386045317;KRS|gotyawallet;Vexual this is a serious issue 402763;1386045343;Vexual;sickness country 402764;1386045414;Vexual;they dont camp there for more than a night, let alone dig the shit up 402765;1386045478;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.34991617 = 1.7496 BTC [+] {5} 402766;1386045625;Vexual;labour is a free market, if you've got skills or whathaveyou, ask the price 402767;1386045684;Vexual;if you get hungry or borded or whatever, drop your price 402768;1386045723;Vexual;ask mp, he lived in communist romania, i imagine it wasnt much different 402769;1386045746;KRS|gotyawallet;i have a mexican i pay $100 for a day of labour on my property..usually twice a month..he normally makes $80 and works longer in on the farms picking vegetables. 402770;1386045758;KRS|gotyawallet;Companies pay him much less because he's an undocumented worker. 402771;1386045758;Vexual;i think capitalism is pretty hard wired into humans 402772;1386045774;Vexual;he is the company fuckwit 402773;1386045796;KRS|gotyawallet;i pay him moar because he works hard, is reliable and very trustworthy..i pay him his equivallent rate as a documented worker. 402774;1386045796;Vexual;its a one man fuckin union 402775;1386045818;KRS|gotyawallet;he CAN'T get moar wage here because he's illegally in our country. 402776;1386045850;KRS|gotyawallet;In return he works like two men when I only have to pay one. 402777;1386045883;Vexual;youre thinking manhours, where its output you want 402778;1386045889;KRS|gotyawallet;comparitavely its nothing to me, i easily drink twice as much as I pay him when I go to the strip club on the weekends to see tits. 402779;1386045920;Duffer1_;drink less 402780;1386045922;Duffer1_;pay more 402781;1386045925;KRS|gotyawallet;fuck off 402782;1386045928;KRS|gotyawallet;:P 402783;1386045930;Duffer1_;:P 402784;1386045931;Vexual;.com 402785;1386046070;mircea_popescu;KRS|gotyawallet so basically you're paying him more because he's worth it. 402786;1386046079;Vexual;id dumb it down another shade, but you know 402787;1386046095;mircea_popescu;the democratic system however ensures that he's well penalised for that. 402788;1386046106;KRS|gotyawallet;right, he does the work of two men and doesnt need to be managed 402789;1386046111;mircea_popescu;unlike amy 402790;1386046135;mircea_popescu;also unlike amy, he doesn't vote. he lives in a different system, which both explains him and makes sense to him. 402791;1386046156;KRS|gotyawallet;he lives in a VERY different system although he doesn't even live that far away from where i do 402792;1386046185;mircea_popescu;well that's basically my point. in his system, every person is valuable, and because oif that you end up with hard working people who aren't depressed. 402793;1386046194;mircea_popescu;in amy's system you end up with amy, who has no skills and no future. 402794;1386046216;Vexual;i blame amy 402795;1386046219;mircea_popescu;so to speak, you brought my example yourself :) 402796;1386046237;KRS|gotyawallet;ahh ok..yes. 402797;1386046260;mircea_popescu;now, if amy got to spend a few years on a mexican farm among mexican people who'd put her lazy ass to work rather than ask her about her feelings 402798;1386046274;mircea_popescu;she'd come back a marrigeable, useful and generally sane and adult woman. 402799;1386046284;KRS|gotyawallet;maybe pregnant too. 402800;1386046287;mircea_popescu;but this doesn't happen where she lives. why not ? because nobody gives a shit. 402801;1386046315;KRS|gotyawallet;capitalism wouldnt let that happen..in her system is she given the necessities to survive even though she doesn't work? 402802;1386046338;Vexual;you might be confusing capitalism with something else 402803;1386046370;KRS|gotyawallet;how so? in a capitalist society she wouldnt be given anything, she would have to do something in order to survive ie: make herself useful 402804;1386046377;mircea_popescu;no. 402805;1386046380;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNlyuWhT62w 402806;1386046380;ozbot;Catch & Cook: Nimanburr (Flying Fox) - YouTube 402807;1386046393;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.00079404 = 5.0819 BTC [+] 402808;1386046401;mircea_popescu;the way the capitalist democracy works is that she gets the bare minimum to survive, much like a cow in one of the insalubrous farms they invented. 402809;1386046427;mircea_popescu;up to her chest in shit, fed antibiotics to control the infection. everything at the bare minimum. 402810;1386046439;Duffer1_;even then it's almost not survivable 402811;1386046447;mircea_popescu;nobody can be bothered to give her a good lashing and put her to work, because this is more skilled and valuable attention than she "deserves". 402812;1386046460;mircea_popescu;consequently, she gets 2 hours of "therapy" and social media q.s. 402813;1386046480;Vexual;oldest society in the world 402814;1386046482;asciilifeform;"We shall escape the absurdity of growing a whole chicken in order to eat the breast or wing, by growing these parts separately under a suitable medium." 402815;1386046488;asciilifeform;who said? 402816;1386046493;mircea_popescu;and just like nobody botheres with amy i don't bother with that forum fuckwit and so the circle continues. 402817;1386046512;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform either lincoln or churchil 402818;1386046514;asciilifeform;2 402819;1386046517;mircea_popescu;:D 402820;1386046524;KRS|gotyawallet;Pray to Jesus so the forum fuckwit can be saved and find salvation. 402821;1386046565;KRS|gotyawallet;LorenzoMoney heh I met him in person..cool guy. 402822;1386046577;KRS|gotyawallet;Hey there LorenzoMoney 402823;1386046623;Vexual;democratic capitalists, with violence 402824;1386046661;KRS|gotyawallet;Vexual: its very strange that foxes fly in your country..but then again I think some folks there even eat Bats. 402825;1386046676;Vexual;40000 years, same shit, its human 402826;1386046690;KRS|gotyawallet;oh 402827;1386046691;KRS|gotyawallet;my 402828;1386046693;KRS|gotyawallet;god 402829;1386046700;KRS|gotyawallet;these are just giant bats dude..disgusting 402830;1386046739;KRS|gotyawallet;Any good? 402831;1386046763;Vexual;no idea 402832;1386046814;KRS|gotyawallet;i must be too refined.. 402833;1386046830;KRS|gotyawallet;I'd rather go eat some thing from McDonalds which is probably very bad for me, than eat something like this. 402834;1386046847;Vexual;ever been hungry? 402835;1386046902;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agRzpnS_FGw 402836;1386046902;ozbot;The Doom Generation (1995) Trailer - YouTube 402837;1386046917;KRS|gotyawallet;not hungry enough to go catch something like this and eat it..now boar..I'll hunt and eat the hell out of wild boar..about 20 miles from where i live, my 4x4 .45 sidepiece and 12 gauge shotgun, its on...knife, winch and hunting dogs ready to go. 402838;1386046929;KRS|gotyawallet;Pig/boar is DELICIOUS 402839;1386047003;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 46 @ 0.00335089 = 0.1541 BTC [-] {4} 402840;1386047039;nubbins`;i'm digging into some sourdough, kielbasa, and cheddar right now 402841;1386047069;KRS|gotyawallet;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4s0nzsU1Wg 402842;1386047069;ozbot;A Country Boy Can Survive - YouTube 402843;1386047345;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z49Pn07Hg9M 402844;1386047346;ozbot;04 In The Bush With Malcolm Douglas S01E05 - YouTube 402845;1386047434;KRS|gotyawallet;most of Australia is undeveloped right 402846;1386047593;KRS|gotyawallet;the Aboriginal Australians are funny to me 402847;1386047747;KRS|gotyawallet;now they are eating giant lizards..i bet it tastes like chicken 402848;1386047845;Vexual;its the end of the earth 402849;1386047859;KRS|gotyawallet;yeah, nothing but water from there eh 402850;1386047888;KRS|gotyawallet;or do you mean the earth is going to end? 402851;1386047896;Vexual;and the begginning 402852;1386047922;Vexual;no i mean its the land that time forgot 402853;1386047932;KRS|gotyawallet;right 402854;1386047935;KRS|gotyawallet;thats how i see it 402855;1386047941;KRS|gotyawallet;unspoiled 402856;1386047991;KRS|gotyawallet;any moar trilema/dtng? 402857;1386048006;KRS|gotyawallet;need pix 402858;1386048278;KRS|gotyawallet;one thing i have found is that there are A LOT of local rap artists with A LOT of talent and good songs 402859;1386048443;Vexual;talent everewheres 402860;1386048470;KRS|gotyawallet;i love that about the internetz..otherwise wouldnt have been noticed. 402861;1386049215;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--vxPnqJdgo 402862;1386049215;ozbot;Black Grape - Words - YouTube 402863;1386049827;mike_c;hm, interesting. a week ago the btc/usd 7 day volatility was the highest its been since August 2011 402864;1386049858;mike_c;i know, that is interesting! 402865;1386049866;mike_c;thanks, i thought so too. 402866;1386050093;nubbins`;http://bitbet.us/bet/635/1btc-10-000-usd/ 402867;1386050099;ozbot;BitBet - 1BTC >= $10,000 USD 402868;1386050139;mike_c;somebody caught on to the trick. dump a bunch of money in early and kill the late guys. a good move. 402869;1386050222;mike_c;oh wait, "somebody" :) http://bitbet.us/stats/1K4FswVNus5xJZJ6TYqAzWSy3tXBBFdGnM/ 402870;1386050289;chsados;mike_c: what is he doing exactly? 402871;1386050316;mike_c;you get a bunch of money in early, at a high weight. 402872;1386050328;mike_c;when more money comes in late, at a low weight, you make money. 402873;1386050354;chsados;it seems like he is betting heavy on both sides though - how does that become profitable 402874;1386050390;mike_c;if a lot of money comes in both sides it works out. if it goes heavily slanted one way the whole time, not so much. 402875;1386050442;mike_c;or if there just isn't any action, then you'll lose out on the fees. 402876;1386050556;mike_c;so it's basically a wager on "this bet will be popular" 402877;1386055421;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00330777 = 0.3308 BTC [-] {6} 402878;1386063220;pankkake;"Through fixing this outstanding issue with BitFunder/WeExchange it will be a good thing for Neo & Bee and the Bitcoin community as a whole." :| 402879;1386063645;jurov`;yes, lesson for everyone 402880;1386064576;davout;hi 402881;1386064584;kakobrekla;heya 402882;1386064796;jurov`;ohai 402883;1386066462;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00330005 = 0.165 BTC [-] 402884;1386068902;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 30 @ 0.34999465 = 10.4998 BTC [+] {6} 402885;1386068963;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.35 = 1.75 BTC [+] {3} 402886;1386070564;jurov`;!t m s.mpoe 402887;1386070564;assbot;[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00078278 / 0.00078644 / 0.00079404 (33174 shares, 26.09 BTC), 7D: 0.00078278 / 0.00079894 / 0.0008476 (1274477 shares, 1,018.24 BTC), 30D: 0.0007725 / 0.00081822 / 0.00088996 (5987510 shares, 4,899.14 BTC) 402888;1386070570;jurov`;!t m s.bbet 402889;1386070571;assbot;[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.0005 / 0.0007278 / 0.00075 (35000 shares, 25.47 BTC), 30D: 0.00045 / 0.00066899 / 0.00075 (45235 shares, 30.26 BTC) 402890;1386071037;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 91 @ 0.00341325 = 0.3106 BTC [+] {8} 402891;1386072074;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 13 @ 0.34000051 = 4.42 BTC [-] {3} 402892;1386075119;ThickAsThieves;lol i'm reading a local article about city gov not paying its "futures" to the electric co 402893;1386075129;ThickAsThieves;all the "fancy words" are in quotes like that 402894;1386075214;pankkake;it's words from the evil faceless finance word 402895;1386075216;pankkake;world 402896;1386075323;ThickAsThieves;they even have "impact fees" in quotes, something this rag discusses often 402897;1386076069;dexX7;mixing visualized: http://thinkdifferent.ly/stuff/sheep-bitcoin/ + http://www.newstatesman.com/future-proof/2013/12/theres-%C2%A360m-bitcoin-heist-going-down-right-now-and-you-can-watch-real-time 402898;1386076303;truffles;http://live.huffingtonpost.com/r/archive/segment/kalief-browder-prison-guards-starved-me/529d1ac2fe34441ee5000416 TAT when looking like some1 else goes extremely bad 402899;1386076466;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.35099697 = 1.404 BTC [+] 402900;1386076555;pankkake;was looking like someone "being black"? 402901;1386076564;pankkake;fuck, 16 year old 402902;1386076569;pankkake;nice childhood 402903;1386076620;ThickAsThieves;they arrested him for looking like Urkel 402904;1386076746;truffles;yea trying to watch the video 402905;1386076762;truffles;firefox will not allow! 402906;1386076809;ThickAsThieves;http://online.barrons.com/article/SB50001424053111903302604579234163250372446.html 402907;1386076809;ozbot;PayPal Could Embrace Bitcoin - Barrons.com 402908;1386076861;ThickAsThieves;nvm this is just some analyst 402909;1386076867;ThickAsThieves;thought it was actual news 402910;1386076906;ThickAsThieves;tldr 'I bought bitcoins, here's some PayPal hype" 402911;1386077085;mircea_popescu;somewhat related, 402912;1386077085;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/the-art-of-making-friends-and-influencing-people-versus-stockholm-syndrome/ 402913;1386077086;ozbot;The art of making friends and influencing people versus Stockholm Syndrome pe Trilema - Un blog de M 402914;1386077162;Diablo-D3;you klnow 402915;1386077164;Diablo-D3;its kinda funny 402916;1386077169;Diablo-D3;Im richer than MP 402917;1386077179;truffles;orly 402918;1386077195;Diablo-D3;he says he has thousands and thousands and thousands of bitcoins 402919;1386077200;Diablo-D3;I dont actually believe him 402920;1386077212;Diablo-D3;so going on what he makes on mpex, which is very little because no one uses it 402921;1386077218;truffles;u want to prove ur wallet is bigger than his wallet lol 402922;1386077218;Diablo-D3;I am, in fact, richer than mp 402923;1386077252;truffles;i wouldnt know about the traffic 402924;1386077264;Diablo-D3;truffles: bitcoin wallet only? 402925;1386077269;truffles;oh i c 402926;1386077272;Diablo-D3;because he probably has more bitcoins than me atm 402927;1386077279;Diablo-D3;I cashed out quite a few into dollars 402928;1386077287;truffles;why do u have to prove u have more? 402929;1386077291;Diablo-D3;I dont 402930;1386077295;Diablo-D3;Im just tired of hearing him talk 402931;1386077301;truffles;oh 402932;1386077313;Diablo-D3;Seriously, nobody cares how many slave women he has 402933;1386077315;truffles;he is kinda polorizing maybe 402934;1386077326;Diablo-D3;(hint: he actually has zero, he says he has like three) 402935;1386077338;Diablo-D3;what the fuck would you even NEED 3 slave women for 402936;1386077342;Diablo-D3;the man only has one penis 402937;1386077347;mircea_popescu;jesus who the fuck do i still have on ignore 402938;1386077347;truffles;u sure, Rominia looks kinda poor 402939;1386077350;mircea_popescu;i thought i cleared it 402940;1386077357;truffles;Diablo-D3 402941;1386077359;Diablo-D3;mircea_popescu: me, you jackass 402942;1386077361;mircea_popescu;oh 402943;1386077374;mircea_popescu;maybe next year. 402944;1386077380;Diablo-D3;lol. 402945;1386077384;truffles;haha 402946;1386077386;Diablo-D3;truffles: and this is why no one likes mircea_popescu 402947;1386077401;truffles;rly, seems like he has bunch of fans in here 402948;1386077414;Diablo-D3;I wouldnt call them fans 402949;1386077428;Diablo-D3;more like people who tolerate him and also want slave women 402950;1386077428;TomServo;Hearing about his slaves is a LOT more interesting that your paleo diet. Just sayin'. 402951;1386077456;truffles;well the fact that they have to be slaves is kinda not cool imo 402952;1386077459;pankkake;I like both paleo and slave women. which side do I chose? 402953;1386077473;Diablo-D3;pankkake: mmm bbqed slaves 402954;1386077501;truffles;unless he's just saying theyre slaves.. 402955;1386077514;Diablo-D3;truffles: they're not actually slaves 402956;1386077521;Diablo-D3;they're slaves in the bdsm sense 402957;1386077527;truffles;ohh 402958;1386077535;Diablo-D3;seriously? 402959;1386077537;Diablo-D3;you didnt get that? 402960;1386077544;pankkake;lol 402961;1386077547;truffles;i think of human trafficing when its mentioned *blush* 402962;1386077565;Diablo-D3;dear God, no 402963;1386077583;Diablo-D3;he just has (well, says he has) a collection of women that like to be used and abused 402964;1386077596;truffles;well then thats what theyre into.. 402965;1386077618;mircea_popescu;truffles whoi has to be a slave ? 402966;1386077626;Diablo-D3;whips, being tied up, getting brutally fucked, being kept in a cage when not in use, that sort of thing 402967;1386077646;truffles;mp u bdsm women 402968;1386077651;truffles;ur* 402969;1386077676;ThickAsThieves;mp you could solve your ignore problem by adding truffles too 402970;1386077687;truffles;kinda dont have sympathy for ppl who chose it though 402971;1386077689;ThickAsThieves;since he's the only one taking D3 seriously 402972;1386077690;truffles;its what they want 402973;1386077698;Diablo-D3;ThickAsThieves: wtf man 402974;1386077703;mircea_popescu;this is true... but i got the spirit of xmas earlier 402975;1386077709;ThickAsThieves;lol 402976;1386077712;Diablo-D3;ThickAsThieves: so what, you actually think he actually bought slave women? 402977;1386077724;truffles;TAT ure so mean 402978;1386077737;ThickAsThieves;D3 it is absolutely inconsequential to me what MP does for his personal life 402979;1386077751;Diablo-D3;I mean, if he actually HAS bought slaves, I know a guy at interpol 402980;1386077794;ThickAsThieves;i'm feeling grinchy... 402981;1386077813;truffles;TAT what is your problem with me and Diablo-D3 402982;1386077828;mircea_popescu;anyway, nobody has to be a slave. it's a voluntary arrangement, and it has its advantages. chief among which that you're about 10x as quick to learn as a slave. 402983;1386077829;ThickAsThieves;I think that was the first "mean" accusation for me, have I really made it? 402984;1386077831;Diablo-D3;he doesnt like fine chocolates or evil incarnate 402985;1386077897;truffles;TAT snarky > mean 402986;1386077916;mircea_popescu;pls spell it "snarky", like "futures" 402987;1386077970;ThickAsThieves;i remember being in grade school having to write little page about Christmas, 402988;1386077980;ThickAsThieves;I put Santa Claus in quotes like that 402989;1386078010;truffles;Diablo-D3 what have u done to make u evil? 402990;1386078013;ThickAsThieves;and the teacher marked it up, and said it might imply that i dont think Santa is real 402991;1386078016;ThickAsThieves;well... 402992;1386078065;Diablo-D3;ThickAsThieves: wow 402993;1386078067;Diablo-D3;you could have been rich 402994;1386078077;Diablo-D3;you could have sued the school for forcing religious doctrine on you 402995;1386078103;ThickAsThieves;... 402996;1386078143;ThickAsThieves;i was also going to Catechism at that age 402997;1386078146;pankkake;which religion is santa? 402998;1386078152;pankkake;capitalism? 402999;1386078156;ThickAsThieves;so kinda stupid to make religion accusations 403000;1386078169;ThickAsThieves;CocaColaism 403001;1386078170;truffles;so ure atheist as an adult 403002;1386078202;jurov`;I don't believe in Santa Claus. We had Ded Moroz from Siberia instead. 403003;1386078205;ThickAsThieves;atheism is too narrow a term 403004;1386078228;truffles;agnostic? 403005;1386078231;ThickAsThieves;the wonders of the universe remain unexplained 403006;1386078247;Diablo-D3;I believe God is a scientist. 403007;1386078251;Diablo-D3;Im that kind of guy 403008;1386078272;truffles;after some years the science changes.. 403009;1386078293;pankkake;I believe I am God, you're just part of my imagination 403010;1386078301;ThickAsThieves;"the more I study science, the more I believe in God" 403011;1386078304;ThickAsThieves;who said that 403012;1386078341;truffles;i only know teh "I think, therefore I am." 403013;1386078357;ThickAsThieves;Einstein 403014;1386078372;Diablo-D3;ThickAsThieves: Einstein was a very smart man, hes very underappreciated 403015;1386078387;truffles;overappreciated imo 403016;1386078396;ThickAsThieves;probly one of my "if you could have lunch with anyone" targets 403017;1386078410;truffles;did he steal some of his discoveries?... 403018;1386078436;truffles;id pick Tesla 403019;1386078452;ThickAsThieves;"Good artists borrow, great artists steal" 403020;1386078454;ThickAsThieves;who said that 403021;1386078477;asciilifeform;herr jobs 403022;1386078479;ThickAsThieves;Picasso, baby 403023;1386078494;truffles;oh thought it was Neal Caffrey 403024;1386078498;ThickAsThieves;lol 403025;1386078641;ThickAsThieves;"Neoteny is not necessarily limited to physical features however. Currently, a large minority with perhaps a view of soon becoming majority of English speaking adults exhibit psychological neoteny, the sad state wherein their body has long reached maturity while their mind is still continuing adolescence" 403026;1386078655;ThickAsThieves;i assumed this to be majority prevelent for quite some time 403027;1386078686;ThickAsThieves;like Amy sorta 403028;1386078699;ThickAsThieves;people just frozen in grade/high school 403029;1386078702;ThickAsThieves;mentally 403030;1386078706;Diablo-D3;yeah 403031;1386078711;Diablo-D3;but thats because high school is broken 403032;1386078728;Diablo-D3;its psychological damage inflicted by the state to make good workers 403033;1386078731;Diablo-D3;problem is, we dont need workers 403034;1386078746;Diablo-D3;we need free thinkers 403035;1386078748;Diablo-D3;as many as possible 403036;1386078752;ThickAsThieves;oh god no 403037;1386078766;ThickAsThieves;have you seen all the free thinkers on reddit? 403038;1386078795;pankkake;aren't they all in school? 403039;1386078819;Diablo-D3;ThickAsThieves: I said free thinkers, not faggots with too much karma 403040;1386078835;ThickAsThieves;35 and in school, probly 403041;1386078868;Diablo-D3;reddit is pure faggotry, I dont know how people stand it 403042;1386078890;truffles;u hate gays too 403043;1386078892;truffles;dam 403044;1386078909;Diablo-D3;truffles: I neither hate nor like gays 403045;1386078916;Diablo-D3;I find their taste in men to be strange. 403046;1386078953;truffles;Diablo-D3 then id like to know what u consider normal 403047;1386078967;Diablo-D3;truffles: boobs and a vagina. 403048;1386078988;Diablo-D3;truffles: btw, you were supposed to say "whats wrong with their taste in men" 403049;1386079006;truffles;whats wrong with it 403050;1386079052;Diablo-D3;they have one 403051;1386079081;truffles;i try not to judge 403052;1386079123;truffles;the former christian in me :) 403053;1386079125;Diablo-D3;truffles: if you want to participate in the comedy, you need to learn when someone is trying to setup a joke 403054;1386079142;Diablo-D3;heh, the christian in me is fine with people being gay 403055;1386079159;ThickAsThieves;question, why does nethash measurement vary so greatly among measurers? 403056;1386079164;Diablo-D3;as long as they treat their partner with a respect and be part of the community and, well, not have AIDS 403057;1386079166;Diablo-D3;Im totally okay with it 403058;1386079168;pankkake;reddit common beliefs: 1) we are a nice community 2) academia teaches you everything you need 3) fedoras are cool 403059;1386079177;Diablo-D3;just please, no bearded men kissing 403060;1386079177;pankkake;what measurers? 403061;1386079186;Diablo-D3;just dont do it 403062;1386079192;Diablo-D3;pankkake: 3 is true, btw 403063;1386079196;Diablo-D3;fedoras arent cool 403064;1386079197;ThickAsThieves;http://bitcoincharts.com/bitcoin/ http://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty http://bitcoindifficulty.com/ and gribble 403065;1386079198;ozbot;Bitcoin Charts / Bitcoin Network 403066;1386079198;Diablo-D3;fezzes are. 403067;1386079221;ThickAsThieves;;;nethash 403068;1386079221;gribble;6400549.04237 403069;1386079241;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves look at the age breakdown : http://www.censusscope.org/us/chart_age_graph_1.gif 403070;1386079267;mircea_popescu;if you exclude under 15 say, it's quite hard for the thin sliver at the bottom to outnumber the fat peak 403071;1386079268;pankkake;bitcoinwisdow says "last 504 blocks", don't know for others 403072;1386079310;ThickAsThieves;why dont they all at least note an estimate based on blocks solved since last diff? 403073;1386079344;pankkake;well that's not really *current* nethash then 403074;1386079371;mircea_popescu;pankkake fedoras are kinda cool tho 403075;1386079374;ThickAsThieves;well certainly relevant no? 403076;1386079385;ThickAsThieves;yes i also like more recent estimating 403077;1386079392;ThickAsThieves;but yknow 403078;1386079394;ThickAsThieves;http://blockexplorer.com/q/estimate 403079;1386079396;pankkake;it depends on what you want to know 403080;1386079400;ThickAsThieves;is that gribble's source? 403081;1386079417;pankkake;I think gribble uses blockchain.info, because when they're broken he's broken 403082;1386079422;pankkake;at least for tslb 403083;1386079425;ThickAsThieves;;;estimate 403084;1386079426;gribble;Next difficulty estimate | 883217070.437 based on data since last change | 894132728.373 based on data for last three days 403085;1386079426;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves i suspect they don't include that because it's so easy to calculate on your own 403086;1386079443;mircea_popescu;a nm, it actually is included 403087;1386079497;pankkake;hats are often a tool of imposters 403088;1386079497;ThickAsThieves;so why is this one so off? 403089;1386079499;ThickAsThieves;http://bitcoincharts.com/bitcoin/ 403090;1386079500;ozbot;Bitcoin Charts / Bitcoin Network 403091;1386079568;mircea_popescu;that's copied off sipa's site. why is it off ? 403092;1386079587;ThickAsThieves;Difficulty707,408,283 403093;1386079587;ThickAsThieves;Next Difficulty 403094;1386079587;ThickAsThieves;in 1316 blocks 403095;1386079587;ThickAsThieves;782,843,943 403096;1386079587;ThickAsThieves;Network Hashrate 403097;1386079587;ThickAsThieves;Terahashs/s 403098;1386079587;ThickAsThieves;5603.82 403099;1386079596;ThickAsThieves;;;bcstats 403100;1386079598;gribble;Current Blocks: 272860 | Current Difficulty: 7.074082830514966E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 274175 | Next Difficulty In: 1315 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 6 hours, 21 minutes, and 52 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 883652397.234 | Estimated Percent Change: 24.91406 403101;1386079609;ThickAsThieves;;;nethash 403102;1386079610;gribble;6400549.04237 403103;1386079612;ThickAsThieves;;;estimate 403104;1386079613;gribble;Next difficulty estimate | 883652397.234 based on data since last change | 894132728.373 based on data for last three days 403105;1386079623;mircea_popescu;Next Difficulty Estimate: 883652397.234 == 883652397.234 based on data since last change 403106;1386079640;mircea_popescu;and obviously nethash != difficulty. 403107;1386079661;ThickAsThieves;Gribble nethash: 6400549.04237 403108;1386079671;ThickAsThieves;btc charts nethash: 5603.82 403109;1386079688;mircea_popescu;the 5.6k was at the time of last change 403110;1386079698;mircea_popescu;so it's the avg for past 2 weeks ending 13 days ago 403111;1386079719;ThickAsThieves;it wasnt 5.6 403112;1386079722;ThickAsThieves;it was like 5 403113;1386079745;mircea_popescu;maybe it's rolling window past 2 weeks ? 403114;1386079748;ThickAsThieves;it must be an arbitray sample time 403115;1386079749;ThickAsThieves;yeah 403116;1386079755;ThickAsThieves;arbitrary* 403117;1386079821;mircea_popescu;anyway, the chances to find the actual nethash within an arbitrary precision are a function of that precision. 403118;1386079847;ThickAsThieves;either way, I'd appreciate it if miners kept it to less than 1PH added in the next 3 weeks :) 403119;1386079878;mircea_popescu;o wow shiot look at that, 25% 403120;1386079887;mircea_popescu;dude you're toast. 403121;1386079898;ThickAsThieves;i accepted that risk at the time 403122;1386079913;ThickAsThieves;havent given up hope though 403123;1386079918;ThickAsThieves;1PH is a lot to add 403124;1386079922;mircea_popescu;well yeah it's far from cut and dried yet 403125;1386079926;ThickAsThieves;hoping this was a burst 403126;1386079927;mircea_popescu;tbh it looked unlikely. 403127;1386079991;ThickAsThieves;I guess I might have to forgo that new Buick 403128;1386079997;ThickAsThieves;hehe 403129;1386080211;dexX7;you're dumping your gpus and started to buy asics? 403130;1386080252;ThickAsThieves;me? no way 403131;1386080258;ThickAsThieves;mining sux 403132;1386080292;kakobrekla;not it blows 403133;1386080294;kakobrekla;hot air 403134;1386080298;dexX7;hehe 403135;1386080337;ThickAsThieves;there is no blowing without sucking 403136;1386080371;ThickAsThieves;other than maybe those Dyson fans 403137;1386080486;dexX7;i bought some gpus, but i somehow feel like a sucker, because now is probably the best time to resell that stuff.. maybe i'll even do likewise before it arrives. a 7950 on ebay is worth 250-300+ eur here :D 403138;1386080530;kakobrekla;O_o 403139;1386080587;mircea_popescu;300 euros ?! wtf. 403140;1386080596;mircea_popescu;it's an old card. 403141;1386080609;kakobrekla;apparently euro is not worth anything any more 403142;1386080645;dexX7;older, yes, but hash/watt efficient 403143;1386080646;dexX7;hehe 403144;1386080666;pankkake;and they're not made anymore 403145;1386080722;mircea_popescu;but i mean... wait, they;re not being bought to be used as gamingdevices ? 403146;1386080726;mircea_popescu;people still buythem to mine ? 403147;1386080797;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.35074922 = 2.806 BTC [-] {3} 403148;1386080807;dexX7;yes 403149;1386080816;pankkake;right now probably, given that the R9 generation doesn't look much more costly… 403150;1386080858;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.35099897 BTC [+] 403151;1386080861;pankkake;litecoin mining diff finally went up after months of ups and downs 403152;1386081042;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 56 @ 0.00195 = 0.1092 BTC [-] 403153;1386081043;mircea_popescu;so basically if asics had never happened, bitcoin diff would be 10k 403154;1386081059;pankkake;yeah. and dead 403155;1386081063;mircea_popescu;is anyone fpga-ing litecoin yet ? 403156;1386081079;dexX7;afaik it's not very efficient 403157;1386081119;dexX7;compared to gpus 403158;1386081164;mircea_popescu;cause nobody wrote a proper chip yet ? 403159;1386081174;mircea_popescu;a, the ram issue. 403160;1386081198;dexX7;you want to have a lot of fast accessible memory 403161;1386081200;dexX7;yup 403162;1386081224;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.35099897 BTC [+] 403163;1386081590;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5053 @ 0.00080601 = 4.0728 BTC [+] 403164;1386081661;TomServo;mircea_popescu: Neither of those search requests return any results for me. 403165;1386081671;mircea_popescu;now that's odd 403166;1386081682;TomServo;I thought so too. 403167;1386081712;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.35099897 BTC [+] 403168;1386081731;mircea_popescu;whoa. me either,. 403169;1386081752;mircea_popescu;;;google site:trilema.com epifania 403170;1386081752;gribble;http://trilema.com/2013/the-ocr-lol-of-today/ http://trilema.com/2013 ...: 403171;1386081753;ozbot;The OCR lol of today pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 403172;1386081763;mircea_popescu;THAT however shows me the article topmost. 403173;1386081801;mircea_popescu;http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Atrilema.com+epifania&btnG=Search&hl=en&gbv=1 << and on a proxy too. 403174;1386081805;ozbot;site:trilema.com epifania - Google Search [Anonymoused] 403175;1386081823;mircea_popescu;i guess we don't quite fathom the extent to which google is manipulating results. 403176;1386081888;ThickAsThieves;i have a google killer idea i dont have the means to implement 403177;1386081903;TomServo;Huh. Evidently. First among 51 results when searching via proxy for me. 403178;1386081914;ThickAsThieves;i debated writing it all up and doing a kickstarter, but i truly wnat nothing to do with running a search co 403179;1386081934;ThickAsThieves;maybe wtite it up and slel it to Yahoo 403180;1386081951;ThickAsThieves;and hire a copy editor too 403181;1386081952;ThickAsThieves;hehe 403182;1386081984;mircea_popescu;TomServo i suppose if you're going to censor, this is actually the correct approach : block specific searches, but index the material. 403183;1386082008;mircea_popescu;this way actual researchers can still do their work, and it remains accessible to those deemed "legitimate" of the public, 403184;1386082021;mircea_popescu;not so unlike how universities worked since abour 1200 403185;1386082022;ThickAsThieves;"That feature has lead to an inflationary bubble in bitcoin-to-dollar trading, with prices fluctuating largely from one day to the next. As fewer bitcoins become available through mining, new entrants in the market may be limited, making it more difficult for the currency to increase its overall float." 403186;1386082044;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves : http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoin-prices-bitcoin-inflexibility/ 403187;1386082051;ThickAsThieves;"The increasing cost of relaying transactions may end up making the currency too expensive to manage outside of a small group of users. " 403188;1386082064;mircea_popescu;teh ppl be figuring it out a year later, and after the fact. 403189;1386082110;ThickAsThieves;quotes from http://www.forbes.com/sites/tristanlouis/2013/12/02/bitcoin-at-crossroad/ 403190;1386082131;ThickAsThieves;dammit my trilema cookie died again 403191;1386082139;mircea_popescu;must keep teh cookies fresh! 403192;1386082272;ThickAsThieves;ah ive read this article more than once 403193;1386082322;mircea_popescu;tristan louis brumhilda von forbes has not :D 403194;1386082488;ThickAsThieves;"One of them is that consumers yield and submit, Bitcoin goes to somewhere in the thousand dollars per range and there’s a rush to move society away from the dysfunctional standard. Banks start taking Bitcoin deposits, Bitcoin hedge funds pop up everywhere..." 403195;1386082500;ThickAsThieves;i hate you for being so damn right sometimes 403196;1386082734;mircea_popescu;:) 403197;1386082754;mircea_popescu;i disclaim all liability. 403198;1386082810;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 107 @ 0.00206073 = 0.2205 BTC [+] {2} 403199;1386082860;ThickAsThieves;still waiting for the Feds to kiss your ring tho 403200;1386082984;ThickAsThieves;“This is the environment where Bitcoin could go to $1m. There is no qualitative reason, but it is trending. If I could own Bitcoin, I would. If I own 3D printing, it is just the same thing” 403201;1386082990;ThickAsThieves;http://www.investmentweek.co.uk/investment-week/news/2310184/hendry-i-would-buy-bitcoin-if-i-could 403202;1386082992;ozbot;Hendry: I would buy Bitcoin if I could 403203;1386083004;ThickAsThieves;Hendry added equity market fundamentals do not matter at a time when policy is misaligned, emphasising instead the ‘feedback loops’ created by US quantitative easing. 403204;1386083048;ThickAsThieves;more decent words in there too 403205;1386084396;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.001952 = 0.1952 BTC [+] 403206;1386085250;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 80 @ 0.00205658 = 0.1645 BTC [+] {2} 403207;1386085982;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34000001 BTC [-] 403208;1386086043;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34000001 BTC [-] 403209;1386086226;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 55 @ 0.00206538 = 0.1136 BTC [+] {2} 403210;1386086287;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.34001002 = 1.36 BTC [+] {3} 403211;1386086290;ThickAsThieves;http://www.businessinsider.com/knc-sells-8-million-in-miners-2013-11 403212;1386086291;ozbot;KnC Sells $8 Million In Miners - Business Insider 403213;1386086310;ThickAsThieves;"Lawn also claims KnC customers already create 70% of the bitcoins mined in a day. We can't verify that claim." 403214;1386086592;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 176 @ 0.0020666 = 0.3637 BTC [+] {3} 403215;1386086766;kakobrekla;http://dpaste.com/1491455/plain 403216;1386086770;kakobrekla;dafuq is dis shit 403217;1386086773;kakobrekla;also link dont work. 403218;1386086775;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 115 @ 0.00207739 = 0.2389 BTC [+] 403219;1386086813;kakobrekla;Users will have the opportunity to list their real companies on Seventh Continent Market starting III.Q.2014. 403220;1386086819;kakobrekla;what is this glbse #5 403221;1386086837;kakobrekla;ininininception 403222;1386086845;nubbins`;morning 403223;1386086861;kakobrekla;heya 403224;1386086897;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.33713866 = 1.3486 BTC [-] {3} 403225;1386087124;ThickAsThieves;https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=7C 403226;1386087130;ThickAsThieves;IPOz! 403227;1386087191;nubbins`;i don't get it 403228;1386087198;nubbins`;is it like farmville for walmart products? 403229;1386087232;ThickAsThieves;hrm i need to decipher this 403230;1386087291;nubbins`;certainly can't do so via their "info" website :( 403231;1386087312;nubbins`;i thought there already were seven continents, anyway? 403232;1386087324;ThickAsThieves;best i can tell, 403233;1386087328;ThickAsThieves;it's Second Life 403234;1386087338;kakobrekla;lol 403235;1386087354;nubbins`;nod 403236;1386087398;nubbins`;When real money for digital goods with no return loses its shine, a skill based market place where players accumulate fame and fortune stands a chance of being a real success. 403237;1386087403;nubbins`;ah, so farmville with leaderboards 403238;1386087431;ThickAsThieves;"When real money for digital goods with no return loses its shine" 403239;1386087433;ThickAsThieves;priceless 403240;1386087520;nubbins`;"when you get tired of wasting money, console yourself with your huge in-game rep and 3d friends 403241;1386087529;ThickAsThieves;would be nice to have a gameplay vid or more cogent explanation of what it is 403242;1386087540;nubbins`;yeah, brutal document 403243;1386087568;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7150 @ 0.00081374 = 5.8182 BTC [+] 403244;1386087594;ThickAsThieves;offering is 250000 @ .0077 403245;1386087605;ThickAsThieves;no info on what each share represents 403246;1386087666;ll;;;calc 0.0077*250000 403247;1386087667;gribble;1925 403248;1386087676;nubbins`;$2mn 403249;1386087691;ThickAsThieves;yep 403250;1386087692;ThickAsThieves;;;calc 1925*1130 403251;1386087692;gribble;2175250 403252;1386087909;ThickAsThieves;any guesses on what % of the co that represents? 403253;1386087916;ThickAsThieves;I'm gonna say 25% 403254;1386087958;ThickAsThieves;oh i found more info 403255;1386087959;ThickAsThieves;https://www.havelockinvestments.com/reportdownload.php?id=43 403256;1386088017;ThickAsThieves;heh, 403257;1386088030;ThickAsThieves;the 250k shares represent 8.25% of the co 403258;1386088054;ThickAsThieves;23,100btc valuation 403259;1386088075;ThickAsThieves;;;calc 23100*1130 403260;1386088075;gribble;26103000 403261;1386088082;ThickAsThieves;fuck me 403262;1386088112;ThickAsThieves;they call it a IPFO 403263;1386088119;ThickAsThieves;no one wants to use my IPVO term :( 403264;1386088179;kakobrekla;i dunno why you all feel the need to stick extra letters inthere 403265;1386088188;kakobrekla;its silly. 403266;1386088236;ThickAsThieves;its a legal thing 403267;1386088269;mike_c;see, the extra letter will protect you from the authorities 403268;1386088276;kakobrekla;yes, V makes it all legal. 403269;1386088278;ThickAsThieves;cuz idiots may claim they thought it would be a real wall st IPO or such 403270;1386088285;kakobrekla;lulz 403271;1386088286;mike_c;they will be like, "ohhhh, it was *virtual*" 403272;1386088298;ThickAsThieves;well no 403273;1386088307;mike_c;i can't figure out what the F stands for 403274;1386088311;kakobrekla;V stands for Vendatta 403275;1386088312;ThickAsThieves;the V is for virtual currency 403276;1386088316;kakobrekla;Vendetta 403277;1386088317;kakobrekla;or whatever 403278;1386088325;ThickAsThieves;Fund 403279;1386088325;ThickAsThieves;cmon 403280;1386088330;mike_c;ah 403281;1386088338;ThickAsThieves;Havelock calls everything a Fund 403282;1386088339;mike_c;of course, it's a fund, not a company. perfect sense. 403283;1386088348;kakobrekla;initial public vendetta offering 403284;1386088351;kakobrekla;completley legal. 403285;1386088352;mike_c;havelock has strange meanings for a lot of terms 403286;1386088367;ThickAsThieves;there are real names and headshots in the PDF 403287;1386088376;ThickAsThieves;and linkedin links 403288;1386088384;kakobrekla;oh that changes everything, headshots. 403289;1386088402;mike_c;one of them has a suit and tie on. i'm sold. 403290;1386088413;kakobrekla;run if you see beard 403291;1386088431;ThickAsThieves;no beards 403292;1386088440;ThickAsThieves;but one guy has two first names AND a suit 403293;1386088470;nubbins`;michael scott? 403294;1386088471;kakobrekla;the whole thing is silly. 403295;1386088481;mike_c;the ceo spent 14 years as a lecturer. no tenure for him! 403296;1386088616;kakobrekla;more letters more coolness 403297;1386088624;kakobrekla;same as with share count. 403298;1386088728;chaang-noi;hi all 403299;1386089144;nubbins`;http://www.ebay.ca/itm/2013-0-5-BTC-Brass-Casascius-Physical-Bitcoin-REDEEMED-/331076143888?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item4d15ad0b10&_uhb=1 403300;1386089145;ozbot;2013 0 5 BTC Brass Casascius Physical Bitcoin Redeemed | eBay 403301;1386089147;nubbins`;hi goat 403302;1386089256;ThickAsThieves;so it's just a piece of imprinted brass? 403303;1386089262;nubbins`;lel 403304;1386089264;nubbins`;yes 403305;1386089269;ThickAsThieves;lel indeed 403306;1386089275;ThickAsThieves;good for you though! 403307;1386089296;nubbins`;good for the guy who was buying redeemed coins hand-over-fist on the forums a few months back 403308;1386089410;ThickAsThieves;better than if he bought real btc? 403309;1386089414;ThickAsThieves;i'm skeptical 403310;1386089424;ThickAsThieves;but possible i guess 403311;1386089426;nubbins`;yeah 403312;1386089433;nubbins`;i can't imagine he paid more than $10-20 per 403313;1386089448;nubbins`;and they seem to be selling on ebay for $140+, regardless of denomination 403314;1386089463;ThickAsThieves;scam ammo is what they are 403315;1386089545;ThickAsThieves;scammo 403316;1386089552;dexX7;not cool 403317;1386089642;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.34999988 = 0.7 BTC [+] {2} 403318;1386090184;chaang-noi;i have like 10 of these... 403319;1386090190;nubbins`;at first i thought it was just idiots not realizing they were unfunded 403320;1386090194;chaang-noi;if i get some time ill list that stuff on ebay lol 403321;1386090198;nubbins`;but i mean, i put REDEEMED in the title 403322;1386090209;chaang-noi;redeemed is a tricky word 403323;1386090216;nubbins`;and one third of the item description is in big red letters saying "NO HOLOGRAM, NO BITCOINS" 403324;1386090222;ThickAsThieves;it's pretty explicit in the description 403325;1386090226;chaang-noi;yeah, that is hard to miss, lol 403326;1386090230;nubbins`;heh 403327;1386090242;nubbins`;honestly, i think it's people that fully understand what they're buying 403328;1386090274;nubbins`;and we're just underestimating the demand for them within the general public 403329;1386090313;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 284 @ 0.00328249 = 0.9322 BTC [-] {19} 403330;1386090374;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SMG] 5031 @ 0.00010127 = 0.5095 BTC [-] {13} 403331;1386090435;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 32 @ 0.02654311 = 0.8494 BTC [-] {14} 403332;1386090496;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1400 @ 0.00009617 = 0.1346 BTC [-] {4} 403333;1386090498;dexX7;well it says "physical bitcoin ... containing no bitcoin" 403334;1386090531;ThickAsThieves;bitfunder.com is replaced with text update 403335;1386090537;ThickAsThieves;Maintenance in progress. Thank you for your patience. 403336;1386090537;ThickAsThieves;The website will be back online after all changes have been completed and checked on or by Dec 4th for viewing and records. 403337;1386090552;ThickAsThieves;of course i have pending xfers i cant verify... 403338;1386090611;ThickAsThieves;(migrations) 403339;1386090689;nubbins`;dexX7: wasn't sure what else to call them, also, you'd need to be full retard to assume it contains value 403340;1386090719;nubbins`;gotta draw the line somewhere, otherwise you end up having your description read "DO NOT heat this coin with a blowtorch for a half hour and lay it on the tip of your penis" etc 403341;1386090776;dexX7;well i rather think the buy just has no clue 403342;1386090788;dexX7;"it's a bitcoin, i want it" 403343;1386090805;nubbins`;shrug, there's only so much i can do 403344;1386090815;nubbins`;i'm just trying to serve the legitimate brass token collector market 403345;1386090820;dexX7;huh? 403346;1386090825;dexX7;are you the seller? 403347;1386090827;mike_c;have you sold any yet? get any bad feedback? 403348;1386090832;nubbins`;heh 403349;1386090836;nubbins`;yes, that's my auction 403350;1386090847;dexX7;you're mean 403351;1386090850;nubbins`;haven't sold any yet, i was only foolish enough to peel the holo off one 403352;1386090854;nubbins`;dexX7: i am not! 403353;1386090856;dexX7;also selling overpriced preorder items :p 403354;1386090857;nubbins`;read the description 403355;1386090858;mike_c;you'll know what they are thinking by whether they flame you on ebay 403356;1386090862;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3214 @ 0.00009518 = 0.3059 BTC [-] {8} 403357;1386090873;nubbins`;a full one-third of the three-line description is in bright red 403358;1386090873;dexX7;haha no, it's fine. as you said, you are filling the demand. 403359;1386090890;nubbins`;i tried to retard-proof it as best i could 403360;1386090903;nubbins`;and i have, in fact, had a few people cancel their bids 403361;1386090906;dexX7;the only misleading line is "physical bitcoin" imo 403362;1386090935;dexX7;though people tried similar stuff earlier.. like selling "iphone box without iphone inside" and got burned 403363;1386090958;nubbins`;ah, i see what you're saying 403364;1386090970;nubbins`;not sure how better to describe it tho 403365;1386090994;nubbins`;2013 0.5 btc brass casascius round that has a bitcoin logo on it - REDEEMED 403366;1386090997;dexX7;lol 403367;1386091004;nubbins`;know what i mean? 403368;1386091006;dexX7;yea 403369;1386091013;ThickAsThieves;Bitcoin Souvenir? 403370;1386091027;dexX7;collectors item 403371;1386091032;dexX7;instead of souvenir 403372;1386091042;ThickAsThieves;Great way to scam noobs! Buy now! 403373;1386091052;nubbins`;heh 403374;1386091055;dexX7;hmm.. casascius calls them physical bitcoins, too 403375;1386091059;nubbins`;dexX7: :) 403376;1386091077;nubbins`;even though some of them are only physical half-bitcoins! 403377;1386091102;ThickAsThieves;you can go to the ghetto and sell them as "stolen bitcoins" 403378;1386091107;ThickAsThieves;real cheap! 403379;1386091116;nubbins`;heh 403380;1386091121;dexX7;"Good condition, was only recently redeemed." ... as if the redemption date is linked to the condition :p 403381;1386091131;nubbins`;dexX7: i ran out of things to say ;( 403382;1386091149;dexX7;i think this was intentional 403383;1386091182;nubbins`;ThickAsThieves: the real money would be in coating steel slugs in gold leaf and calling them "unfunded gold coins" 403384;1386091217;dexX7;what would you do if a buyer contacts you in 1-2 weeks and tells you that he had no clue? 403385;1386091228;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 61 @ 0.00311741 = 0.1902 BTC [-] {2} 403386;1386091249;nubbins`;dexX7: i'd invite him to read the item description 403387;1386091270;nubbins`;and if he feels he's been wronged, to open a dispute claim 403388;1386091280;dexX7;woah lol http://www.ebay.ca/sch/Other-/257/i.html is full of x-coins 403389;1386091281;nubbins`;not much else i can do :) 403390;1386091327;nubbins`;oh wow, it really is, hey? 403391;1386091351;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.34998998 = 0.7 BTC [-] 403392;1386091352;dexX7;time for a new category like "digital coins" 403393;1386091650;mircea_popescu; Hendry added equity market fundamentals do not matter << he has a point, if perhaps sorely misstated. 403394;1386091716;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 41 @ 0.00311122 = 0.1276 BTC [-] {3} 403395;1386091777;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00311 = 0.1555 BTC [-] 403396;1386091798;mircea_popescu;<dexX7> what would you do if a buyer contacts you in 1-2 weeks and tells you that he had no clue? <<< point him to bitbet faq ? 403397;1386091841;dexX7;haha yea 403398;1386091867;dexX7;i was thinking about you when i raised the q :D 403399;1386091868;mircea_popescu;speaking of which, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?PHPSESSID=9ua7hcm438d8vbnfn5b7ocdp84&topic=271711.msg3793984#msg3793984 403400;1386091902;nubbins`;http://www.vice.com/read/romania-pungeti-anti-fracking-protests-chevron 403401;1386091902;ozbot;Romanian Villagers Managed to Keep Fracking Out of Their Backyard | VICE United States 403402;1386091923;ThickAsThieves;For reference, the final Bitfunder.com shareholder list (unofficial) https://btct.co/history-bitfunder/2013-12-03-05%3A30-bitfunder-assetlist.html 403403;1386091933;ThickAsThieves;just in case anyone needs it 403404;1386091953;Diablo-D3;bintfunder is finally shut down? 403405;1386091958;mircea_popescu;tghe final unofficial list ? 403406;1386091960;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 3 @ 0.115 = 0.345 BTC [-] 403407;1386091961;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.3401002 = 1.0203 BTC [-] 403408;1386091974;mircea_popescu;wait. on btctco ?! 403409;1386091996;ThickAsThieves;yep 403410;1386092000;ThickAsThieves;burnsy kept tabs 403411;1386092013;Apocalyptic;"Honey, even Namecoin is "worth something" these days." // can't be believe she actually thinks Namecoin is worse than XRP 403412;1386092021;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.34006363 = 3.7407 BTC [-] {2} 403413;1386092023;ThickAsThieves;i only saved my own list for my own securities 403414;1386092063;ThickAsThieves;btct.co only backed up every 30min 403415;1386092072;ThickAsThieves;so it's possible the list is a lil wrong 403416;1386092082;ThickAsThieves;if someone did any share xfers in the last 30m 403417;1386092104;ThickAsThieves;and of course it's unofficial, so thats another consideration 403418;1386092278;nubbins`;y'know, the shitty thing about being a business that accepts bitcoin is that none of my suppliers accept it 403419;1386092326;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.11489999 BTC [+] 403420;1386092330;ThickAsThieves;which is the real achievement reddites should be going for 403421;1386092336;nubbins`;nod 403422;1386092353;mircea_popescu;she ?! what female are we discussing ? 403423;1386092359;ThickAsThieves;so tired of "I convinced my aunt to accept btc for her maid services!" 403424;1386092372;ThickAsThieves;support her and buy some! 403425;1386092381;nubbins`;i mean, good for me if i print things for btc; bad for me when i have to immediately cash out btc income in order to pay for inks and paper 403426;1386092398;ThickAsThieves;so try 403427;1386092427;nubbins`;your logic has no place here! 403428;1386092443;nubbins`;;p 403429;1386092473;nubbins`;i don't know of any wholesale suppliers that accept btc 403430;1386092485;nubbins`;in any industry 403431;1386092487;mircea_popescu;but if they did accept btc ... it'd be still at the fiat equiv 403432;1386092503;nubbins`;well yeah, you're just moving it up a level 403433;1386092508;mircea_popescu;the idea is to be fiat rich and just take the losses. 403434;1386092522;thestringpuller;fiat rich is so 1800's 403435;1386092525;nubbins`;now they're immediately cashing out for fiat too, because the cotton farms don't accept btc 403436;1386092540;thestringpuller;nubbins`: you can always store profits in btc 403437;1386092552;ThickAsThieves;yes but if you get vendors accepting, you start creating a closed loop 403438;1386092553;nubbins`;too true, and in fact we do 403439;1386092560;ThickAsThieves;and that coin maybe never becomes fiat 403440;1386092576;nubbins`;tat, too true, it's a hard sell tho 403441;1386092588;thestringpuller;yea so if you store your profits in coin, and liquidate coins to pay expenses no payable directly by btc what does it really matter? 403442;1386092618;ThickAsThieves;a useful service would be one that auto bought ccoins you spent i guess 403443;1386092628;ThickAsThieves;but that feels like a band-aid 403444;1386092675;thestringpuller;;;calc (120 - 50) / 120 403445;1386092675;gribble;0.583333333333 403446;1386092677;pankkake;what kind of industries could be "in a bitcoin loop" the easiest? 403447;1386092685;thestringpuller;;;calc (110 - 50) / 110 403448;1386092685;gribble;0.545454545455 403449;1386092697;thestringpuller;;;bc,24hprc 403450;1386092698;gribble;Error: Failed to retrieve data. Try again later. 403451;1386092698;nubbins`;ah, not really sure 403452;1386092703;thestringpuller;$avg 403453;1386092704;mpexbot;thestringpuller: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. 403454;1386092708;thestringpuller;>:( 403455;1386092721;nubbins`;the problem is that in any industry, at some point up the chain, you find a business who simply is not willing to take the risk of accepting btc 403456;1386092724;nubbins`;fine for small businesses 403457;1386092731;nubbins`;large corps have shareholders to answer to 403458;1386092744;nubbins`;if they lose their shirts because of a price fluctuation, people lose their jobs 403459;1386092762;nubbins`;few people in the corporate world are willing to risk that 403460;1386092776;ThickAsThieves;yet they hold fiat! 403461;1386092778;ThickAsThieves;:) 403462;1386092790;mircea_popescu;since we're doing irrelevant sites : http://www.bitcoinalliance.ca/ 403463;1386092807;nubbins`;oh, hey, we have an alliance now? 403464;1386092821;nubbins`;brutal color scheme, looks like a video game forum 403465;1386092826;ThickAsThieves;"merchant outreach" 403466;1386092831;mircea_popescu;that's because it IS a videogame forum 403467;1386092847;mircea_popescu;bitcoin = videogame gold, online political organisation = forum 403468;1386092863;ThickAsThieves;nub ask them wherefor the Vendor Outreach 403469;1386092864;zboralski;who played EVE Online here? 403470;1386092882;mircea_popescu;zboralski http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoins-eve-corporation/ 403471;1386092891;mircea_popescu;we're billionaires, you kiddin' ? 403472;1386092919;zboralski;mircea_popescu: that's cool 403473;1386092924;ThickAsThieves;hey look, an excuse to visit Canadia http://www.bitcoinalliance.ca/_in_cryptography_we_trust_canada_s_first_bitcoin_expo_coming_in_2014 403474;1386092932;ThickAsThieves;nub are you East or West? 403475;1386092933;zboralski;mircea_popescu: you should advertise on my forums. 403476;1386092955;mircea_popescu;sure. 403477;1386092956;zboralski;mircea_popescu: I'll give you resident access so you can post. 403478;1386092973;zboralski;https://www.kugutsumen.com 403479;1386092975;mircea_popescu;nubbins` tyhe best part is the dorklist oops i mean leadership 403480;1386093000;mircea_popescu;zboralski where do advertisements go ? 403481;1386093035;zboralski;just register and tell me your username... Once you have resident access you can post in the recruitment forum https://www.kugutsumen.com/forumdisplay.php?31-Recruitment-Forum 403482;1386093041;zboralski;are you familiar with Kugutsumen? 403483;1386093047;ThickAsThieves;"A technical expert with management skills, Pakosh is a serial entrepreneur with a 30-year record of identifying trends" 403484;1386093069;ThickAsThieves;"Holmes is the Business Development Manager at CaVirtex, the leading Canadian Bitcoin exchange. " 403485;1386093070;mircea_popescu;"The leadership of the Bitcoin Alliance of Canada consists of 6 board members, each being selected by an independent election committee of Bitcoin enthusiasts from across Canada." 403486;1386093084;mircea_popescu;zboralski not at all. 403487;1386093111;zboralski;I was banned from EVE Online in 2007 403488;1386093136;ThickAsThieves;how can they get consensus without asking nubbins? 403489;1386093192;zboralski;Slashdot: "Should MMOG 'Play' Be Confined?" 403490;1386093192;zboralski;Slashdot: "CCP Speaks on Allegations of Misconduct in Eve" 403491;1386093194;zboralski;Slashdot: "EVE Devs Admit To Misconduct" 403492;1386093227;mircea_popescu;so substantively, what was the controversy/misconduct/we ? 403493;1386093240;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves they asked their resident delusionist. 403494;1386093259;mircea_popescu;there are two types of kings in the world : those who have a collection of various mages, and those who have a delusionist. 403495;1386093262;pankkake;you can get banned from a video game? 403496;1386093262;zboralski;one of the directors of Band of Brothers was a dev and was cheating by printing tech 2 BPOs 403497;1386093302;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 9000 @ 0.00010963 = 0.9867 BTC [+] {5} 403498;1386093314;zboralski;pankkake: in that video game... you can have some russian guy come to your house to cut the power and kill you inside the game :D http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/65475 403499;1386093329;mircea_popescu;zboralski o you're the guy that broke the bob / eve thing ? 403500;1386093337;pankkake;haha, awesome 403501;1386093339;zboralski;mircea_popescu: yes 403502;1386093342;mircea_popescu;nice. 403503;1386093386;mircea_popescu;the power cutting business did happen, and the ships in question are hardly worth 10 btc. 403504;1386093390;nubbins`;ThickAsThieves: as east as you can get 403505;1386093461;TomServo;Heh: Detroit eligible for bankruptcy protection: US judge 403506;1386093472;ThickAsThieves;cool, i enjoyed my last trip there, but it was a looong time ago, as a touring punk 403507;1386093476;ThickAsThieves;i intend to go back 403508;1386093498;nubbins`;montreal is where the party is 403509;1386093499;mircea_popescu;TomServo why not lol. it 403510;1386093505;mircea_popescu;s a sovereign corporation. best of both worlds. 403511;1386093538;zboralski;reading your 1BTC post, fun concept... 403512;1386093538;TomServo;Ha. I guess why not would be when the rest are pissed they don't get the chance. 403513;1386093548;zboralski;definately post it on k.com 403514;1386093573;mircea_popescu;anyway, ten ton hammer etc keep sucking eve's cock, i'm curious what will they say once eulora is out. 403515;1386093598;mircea_popescu;TomServo but it encourages the rest to simply move to mpex and give the fiat world the finger. 403516;1386093603;diametric;ohh eve players. 403517;1386093606;diametric;its been a while since I played. 403518;1386093618;zboralski;diametric: who did you play with? 403519;1386093629;mircea_popescu;zboralski so you still playing ? 403520;1386093632;diametric;TEST at it's height 403521;1386093643;diametric;was a lot of fun, I also played in Goons as well with a few accounts. 403522;1386093653;diametric;I think at my most addictive moment I had almost a dozen accounts going... 403523;1386093660;zboralski;nah, I tried at one point but it is not fun if people recognize me I get banned again. 403524;1386093664;TomServo;mircea_popescu: Since when do you give anything in the US that much credit? :) 403525;1386093677;mircea_popescu;TomServo well, they do have the chance :) 403526;1386093694;zboralski;I was in Pandemic Legion... My alt was the executor. 403527;1386093695;mircea_popescu;it's mostly so years later when they're butthurt all over the interwebs i can link them to old pages and lol 403528;1386093712;diametric;zboralski: oh cool, flew a lot with PL when the HBC was formed 403529;1386093717;diametric;fun guys 403530;1386093722;zboralski;diametric: do you have an account on kugu? 403531;1386093735;diametric;nah i never posted much, was entertaining to read though 403532;1386093790;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 317 @ 0.00206049 = 0.6532 BTC [+] {4} 403533;1386093807;diametric;I do miss being in fleets and having a massive blob 403534;1386093826;diametric;but I hear TEST has gone to FW after the moon redistribution or whatever.. I haven't played for over a year now. 403535;1386093826;zboralski;the last time I played I hijacked a dev account and couldn't figure out how to get out of that Jove system which didn't have any gates. 403536;1386093838;diametric;haha 403537;1386093856;nubbins`;all this is beyond me 403538;1386093864;nubbins`;i'm not bad at mario kart tho D: 403539;1386093865;diametric;mircea_popescu: i hear you also play (or played?) some eve. 403540;1386093872;zboralski;a lot of people on k.com don't play anymore. 403541;1386093882;zboralski;the discussions are fun. 403542;1386093886;diametric;the most fun I had was scamming people 403543;1386093900;KRS|gotyawallet;hehe 403544;1386093902;mircea_popescu;diametric well i run the bitcoin corp thingee. i don't play so much, mostly market stuff. 403545;1386093903;diametric;TEST space rental scams. Fountain had some really good ratting and people would pay top dollar to "rent" from me 403546;1386093904;zboralski;corp robbery with a freighter was fun too. 403547;1386093912;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 193 @ 0.00206031 = 0.3976 BTC [-] {3} 403548;1386093930;diametric;mircea_popescu: I have a friend like that, I don't think he's been in space except to move between hubs and manage his orders. 403549;1386093943;mircea_popescu;i'm often in a shuttle 403550;1386093956;mircea_popescu;but w/e, i occasionally fly a mk1 ferrox, just, been kinda busy these motnhs 403551;1386093973;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 173 @ 0.00206489 = 0.3572 BTC [+] {3} 403552;1386093974;diametric;mircea_popescu: so i hear 403553;1386093983;mircea_popescu;the game is notoriously boring, as far as the actual gameplay goes. 403554;1386093993;mircea_popescu;wtf, it's barely at the level of a 1990 atari game. 403555;1386094018;mircea_popescu;roughly elite, if you've played that. 403556;1386094031;diametric;its the meta games that are fun 403557;1386094043;mircea_popescu;exactly. 403558;1386094060;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/have-you-played-elite-back-in-the-80s/ 403559;1386094061;ozbot;Have you played Elite back in the 80s ? pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 403560;1386094092;mircea_popescu;they totally should bring back manual docking. 403561;1386094095;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 193 @ 0.00206479 = 0.3985 BTC [-] {2} 403562;1386094107;nubbins`;;;ud docking 403563;1386094108;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=docking | The act of placing the head of ones penis inside the foreskin of another's penis. 403564;1386094110;ozbot;Urban Dictionary: docking 403565;1386094115;nubbins`;agreed 403566;1386094115;mircea_popescu;ew. 403567;1386094124;nubbins`;hahaha 403568;1386094125;benkay;they'd have to implement proper orbital dynamics first 403569;1386094127;mircea_popescu;no dude, attaching your ship to the spacestation. 403570;1386094132;thestringpuller;nubbins` come on dude 403571;1386094137;ThickAsThieves;lol 403572;1386094146;mircea_popescu;benkay it's funny that the game requires the playerbase to use a lot of math, which the developers themselves can't apply. 403573;1386094148;TomServo;No, not that one! 403574;1386094155;thestringpuller;mircea_popescu: if you want something that realistic you should play kerbal space program 403575;1386094156;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1371 @ 0.00207752 = 2.8483 BTC [+] {5} 403576;1386094162;mircea_popescu;elite had it! 403577;1386094167;benkay;ksp is brutal. 403578;1386094168;thestringpuller;kerbal space program has manual docking :P 403579;1386094169;diametric;thestringpuller: KSP is amazing! 403580;1386094169;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 403581;1386094174;diametric;KSP has manual everything. 403582;1386094181;thestringpuller;lol true dat 403583;1386094181;mircea_popescu;mgs ? 403584;1386094197;mircea_popescu;does it have MGS!!1 403585;1386094202;nubbins`;manual anything is great 403586;1386094206;nubbins`;fuck computers 403587;1386094219;nubbins`;seriously, have you ever taken pictures with a holga? 403588;1386094225;mircea_popescu;nubbins` good luck with your tomograph. 403589;1386094239;mircea_popescu;and no, i had a smecma. 403590;1386094247;nubbins`;ah, no, i don't get sick 403591;1386094258;nubbins`;judging by past perfmance, i'll never need one 403592;1386094261;nubbins`;;| 403593;1386094268;thestringpuller;;;google mgs 403594;1386094269;gribble;METAL GEAR SOLID: ; Metal Gear Solid - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; MGS: Stainless steel Eco-friendly Faucets for the Kitchen, Bath and ...: 403595;1386094276;thestringpuller;that's what mgs means to me 403596;1386094278;thestringpuller;and most people :P 403597;1386094319;mircea_popescu;mgs = manual genital stimulation. 403598;1386094339;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 122 @ 0.00212179 = 0.2589 BTC [+] {3} 403599;1386094351;mircea_popescu;https://www.google.com/search?complete=0&q=smena << and this is the smena. 403600;1386094401;nubbins`;lel 403601;1386094408;nubbins`;it has mgs AND docking?! 403602;1386094424;nubbins`;s/manual/mutual 403603;1386094432;mircea_popescu;even winding is separated from shutter cocking! 403604;1386094464;nubbins`;yah, same w/ holga 403605;1386094476;nubbins`;take a triple exposure, advance a half-frame, take a double, etc 403606;1386094501;nubbins`;such fun 403607;1386094518;nubbins`;you could load 35mm and expose images over the sprocket holes 403608;1386094563;mircea_popescu;you could actually use cinematic 35mm film too, 403609;1386094565;mircea_popescu;or you could make your own 403610;1386094577;benkay;man 403611;1386094583;benkay;you guys actually like fucking around with atoms 403612;1386094585;benkay;i don't get it 403613;1386094602;benkay;the only atoms i want to fuck with are warm and concave 403614;1386094620;kakobrekla;the pussy element? 403615;1386094637;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla hey was that chick in fifth element somalian too ? 403616;1386094639;benkay;Va 403617;1386094653;mircea_popescu;mila jovovich 403618;1386094664;kakobrekla;from the south 403619;1386094677;kakobrekla;im like fucking north to them! 403620;1386094692;mircea_popescu;haha 403621;1386094705;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 58 @ 0.0021249 = 0.1232 BTC [-] {2} 403622;1386094707;mircea_popescu;She considers herself both Russian and Montenegrin 403623;1386094714;mircea_popescu;shouldn't it be montenegrette ? 403624;1386094721;kakobrekla;:)) 403625;1386094725;kakobrekla;yep 403626;1386094739;mircea_popescu;she could sing non, je ne regrete rien 403627;1386094745;mircea_popescu;pas meme etre montenegrette... 403628;1386094750;KRS|gotyawallet;that bitch from 5th element was fawking hawt 403629;1386094766;kakobrekla;baked only once though 403630;1386094777;KRS|gotyawallet;any more dting? 403631;1386094777;mircea_popescu;KRS|gotyawallet only while pubescent. luc besson got obsessed with her, cast her as joan of arc and she sucked balls. 403632;1386094789;KRS|gotyawallet;rly 403633;1386094801;KRS|gotyawallet;they all go to hell after that period i guess 403634;1386094805;KRS|gotyawallet;almost 403635;1386094833;KRS|gotyawallet;did she ever do pron 403636;1386094840;pankkake;like Natalie Portman? 403637;1386094842;mircea_popescu;nothing public. 403638;1386094874;KRS|gotyawallet;natalie portman had that submissive thing going 403639;1386094899;mircea_popescu;anyway, getting back on topic for just a moment, from what i'm seeing the internet metal bugs are actually beginning to move to crypto. 403640;1386094914;mircea_popescu;their butthurt at their idol's failure having just about healed past denial 403641;1386094934;pankkake;I've been infiltrating a private silverbug forum 403642;1386095009;Apocalyptic;pankkake, let us know how it goes 403643;1386095132;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 213 @ 0.002125 = 0.4526 BTC [+] 403644;1386095153;benkay;i want there to be at least 3 btc-related jewelry providers 403645;1386095171;benkay;that way i can split a wallet across 3 items of decorate 403646;1386095178;benkay;drape each on a babe 403647;1386095181;benkay;and ball bitcoin 403648;1386095463;KRS|gotyawallet;http://www.celebjihad.com/celeb-jihad/natalie-portman-bent-over-nude 403649;1386095463;ozbot;Natalie Portman Bent Over Nude 403650;1386095474;KRS|gotyawallet;you can almost smell it 403651;1386095501;pankkake;lol no 403652;1386095524;pankkake;natalie portman doesn't do much for me - except in Léon 403653;1386095554;kleeck;Oh, when she's 12? 403654;1386095557;kleeck;That's telling. 403655;1386095561;KRS|gotyawallet;haha 403656;1386095568;KRS|gotyawallet;she was hawt during star wars 403657;1386095583;pankkake;I am pretty sure she was in the wet dreams of many boys at that time 403658;1386095644;pankkake;she was boring in star wars 403659;1386095656;pankkake;and that scene in the fields… wtf 403660;1386095681;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 125 @ 0.002125 = 0.2656 BTC [+] 403661;1386095886;mircea_popescu;KRS|gotyawallet that's not her, get outta here. 403662;1386095917;mircea_popescu;pankkake i dunno, that little boy look... 403663;1386095973;pankkake;I don't remember her like that 403664;1386095977;pankkake;http://superiorpics.com/movie_pictures/mp/1994_Leon_the_Professional/L_Natalie_Portman_076.jpg 403665;1386095986;pankkake;she even has a collar! 403666;1386096079;mircea_popescu;it s a choker lol 403667;1386096098;mircea_popescu;but yeah, i guess i must have confused it with some other movie 403668;1386096118;kleeck;Yeah. I'm not arroused by that image. 403669;1386096127;pankkake;yeah choker. well, still, I like chokers :) 403670;1386096144;pankkake;me neither. it's a sentimal thing 403671;1386096146;mircea_popescu;chokers are cool. 403672;1386096167;mircea_popescu;chokers, corsets, garters an' heels. 403673;1386096181;mircea_popescu;stephengandel welcome. 403674;1386096219;pankkake;garters is the only thing I don't like 403675;1386096241;pankkake;they look stupid 403676;1386096259;pankkake;ands give me an "old" feeling 403677;1386096291;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.11199999 BTC [-] 403678;1386096322;benkay;stephengandel: just lurking? 403679;1386096352;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.1135 = 0.227 BTC [+] {2} 403680;1386096379;mircea_popescu;;;bcstats 403681;1386096385;gribble;Current Blocks: 272883 | Current Difficulty: 7.074082830514966E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 274175 | Next Difficulty In: 1292 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 23 hours, 36 minutes, and 38 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 868573144.388 | Estimated Percent Change: 22.78244 403682;1386096414;mircea_popescu;benkay he's probably not found the bottom bar to type in yet 403683;1386096416;mircea_popescu;give the man time :D 403684;1386096441;benkay;the internet is for user interfaces 403685;1386096472;benkay;/sarcasm 403686;1386096479;mircea_popescu;pankkake http://1-ps.googleusercontent.com/h/www.celebjihad.com/celeb-jihad/images/xnatalie_portman_facial.jpg.pagespeed.ic.c--jPUhJTe.jpg 403687;1386096488;stephengandel;You are right. Got it now. Hello. 403688;1386096512;stephengandel;rereading FAQ before I ask question 403689;1386096554;mircea_popescu;stephengandel don't sweat it, the internet is for 403690;1386096563;mircea_popescu;trying shit out. 403691;1386096596;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 117 @ 0.00212498 = 0.2486 BTC [+] {3} 403692;1386096598;pankkake;I collect actual scientific evidence like http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/6267901/Chemical-in-sperm-may-slow-ageing-process.html 403693;1386096629;mircea_popescu;actual science from telegraph.co ? 403694;1386096640;mircea_popescu;got a lot of daily mail in your treasure chest ? 403695;1386096649;stephengandel;Is the fee to open an account still 30 BTCs? 403696;1386096669;mircea_popescu;yes. 403697;1386096681;pankkake;how about MIT?! http://tech.mit.edu/V130/N5/undress.html 403698;1386096689;benkay;there are brokers, though stephengandel 403699;1386096745;mircea_popescu;pankkake this is why you keep a bottle of nice cognac or tuica or w/e on hand. 403700;1386096773;stephengandel;So, $30,000? Can you short bitcoins through a broker? 403701;1386096793;thestringpuller;................. 403702;1386096801;thestringpuller;*palm to face* 403703;1386096807;thestringpuller;lol 403704;1386096809;thestringpuller;coinbr.com 403705;1386096820;pankkake;options are available through the broker 403706;1386096820;kleeck;"But, as with many things in life, you have to just suck it up and do it, which is why I’m here to make a case for swallowing spooge." 403707;1386096826;benkay;yup. MPOE prices options on bitcoins. 403708;1386096828;mircea_popescu;stephengandel depends of what your idea of shorting bitcoins is like. but you can buy puts through a broker, yes. 403709;1386096840;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 60 @ 0.002125 = 0.1275 BTC [+] 403710;1386096856;thestringpuller;jurov may let you short on margin 403711;1386096873;benkay;stephengandel: http://mpex.co/?mpsic=O.USD.P185T for example. but note that the option is on lots of .1 btc 403712;1386096876;mircea_popescu;i think namworld was doing it at some point at least. 403713;1386096927;benkay;stephengandel: to clarify thestringpuller's comment, jurov runs http://coinbr.com 403714;1386096962;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25000 @ 0.0008116 = 20.29 BTC [-] {5} 403715;1386097039;mircea_popescu;$avg 403716;1386097040;mpexbot;mircea_popescu: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. 403717;1386097044;mircea_popescu;hm. 403718;1386097046;mircea_popescu;!ticker 403719;1386097046;assbot;How can I be of assistance, my poor man? 403720;1386097060;mircea_popescu;jesus the whole system is breaking down. 403721;1386097061;mircea_popescu;;;ticker 403722;1386097061;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1137.20838, Best ask: 1137.99994, Bid-ask spread: 0.79156, Last trade: 1137.99994, 24 hour volume: 23590.84962476, 24 hour low: 1046.99999, 24 hour high: 1185.77338, 24 hour vwap: 1115.72103 403723;1386097084;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 174 @ 0.00212899 = 0.3704 BTC [+] {2} 403724;1386097126;mircea_popescu;;;later tell smickles hey, tactm changed bitcoincharts api json url cause he could. gotta use http://api.bitcoincharts.com/v1/weighted_prices.json now 403725;1386097126;gribble;The operation succeeded. 403726;1386097206;assbot;[MPEX] [S.BBET] 1000 @ 0.000575 = 0.575 BTC [+] {2} 403727;1386097341;TomServo;;;bc,xau 403728;1386097342;gribble;1 XAU = 1221.600000000000 USD = 1.05419399379 BTC 403729;1386097426;mircea_popescu;stephengandel you know, you write a lot. i thought the job of the senior editor is more along the lines of throwing out the hard work of all the junior editors. 403730;1386097450;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 666 @ 0.0021362 = 1.4227 BTC [+] {2} 403731;1386097512;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 524 @ 0.00214775 = 1.1254 BTC [+] {5} 403732;1386097572;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1942 @ 0.00228754 = 4.4424 BTC [+] {4} 403733;1386097598;stephengandel;should be. Sorry just got a call from an unhappy Wall Street PR guy. 403734;1386097622;stephengandel;reading again now. 403735;1386097633;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 894 @ 0.00244619 = 2.1869 BTC [+] {8} 403736;1386097694;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 229 @ 0.0024743 = 0.5666 BTC [+] {3} 403737;1386097695;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56443 @ 0.00081489 = 45.9948 BTC [+] {2} 403738;1386097755;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4557 @ 0.00081642 = 3.7204 BTC [+] 403739;1386097817;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 175 @ 0.00247999 = 0.434 BTC [+] {3} 403740;1386098039;mircea_popescu;;;eauth mircea_popescu 403741;1386098039;gribble;Request successful for user mircea_popescu, hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/8A736F0E2FB7B452 403742;1386098064;mircea_popescu;;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:12f6abe25d7cb14f088f737e75749f27e97964533753251ca2eb4ee3 403743;1386098064;assbot;123! 403744;1386098065;gribble;You are now authenticated for user mircea_popescu with key 8A736F0E2FB7B452 403745;1386098135;nubbins`;796 403746;1386098135;assbot;123! 403747;1386098165;nubbins`;amazing 796 403748;1386098165;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 403749;1386098165;assbot;123! 403750;1386098203;mircea_popescu;omg leave britney alone. 403751;1386098206;nubbins`;lel 403752;1386098295;jborkl;Where is the amazing company? 403753;1386098295;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 403754;1386098339;assbot;Quote: http://dpaste.com/1491666/plain/ 403755;1386098339;nubbins`;!quote 2 403756;1386098350;nubbins`;ah, oh well 403757;1386098601;mircea_popescu;bah these forum digests are indigest. 403758;1386098619;mircea_popescu;you know i think the drama engine is getting old. 403759;1386098786;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Maybe swap out the motor with one from a dump truck? Might make the drama more fun to drive. 403760;1386098850;mircea_popescu;it strikes me that maybe not many years later we will look upon the early days with nostalgia, drowned in a sea of banal crap. 403761;1386098872;mircea_popescu;and like the proverbial soviet geezers we'll go "do you remember how great it was back when it was horribly bad ?" 403762;1386098891;jborkl;I can sum it up for you 1. I can't get my blade to hash 2. I lost ma bitcoin 3. I have a amazing company (give me bitcoin) 403763;1386098891;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 403764;1386098910;mircea_popescu;jborkl pretty much. 403765;1386098926;mircea_popescu;the redditization of bitcoin drama 403766;1386098945;pankkake;2. I lost my bitcoin PLEASE DONATE 403767;1386098953;jborkl;^ 403768;1386098970;jborkl;legal fund PLEASE DONATE 403769;1386098976;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 150 @ 0.00247999 = 0.372 BTC [-] {2} 403770;1386098977;mircea_popescu;pankkake you know, i should prolly have pr make a trhead, MPOE BONDS LOST 3K LAST MONTH~!11 plz donate. 403771;1386099000;pankkake;who's crazy enough to fund these? 403772;1386099022;mircea_popescu;pankkake i think some of the older people with actual wallets send a little just out of sheer trollery 403773;1386099032;mircea_popescu;say a bitcent or w/e 403774;1386099122;jborkl;Mechs is trying to sell his just-dice acct, the investor balance is -478 ~ 403775;1386099153;kakobrekla;lolwat 403776;1386099158;Apocalyptic;sounds legit 403777;1386099169;mircea_popescu;!jd 403778;1386099169;assbot;Just-Dice stat: 8816 BTC profit, 50.8k BTC invested, 315.35 mio bets, 4.55 mio BTC wagered 403779;1386099174;jborkl;yeah, so the first 478 of profit is non commision 403780;1386099182;mircea_popescu;ah ah 403781;1386099209;mircea_popescu;so the value there is 1% of 478 btc minus whatever discount ? 403782;1386099215;mircea_popescu;this is more than the average car. 403783;1386099219;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 60 @ 0.00247999 = 0.1488 BTC [-] 403784;1386099221;jborkl;10% i think is the commision rate 403785;1386099227;mircea_popescu;o they hiked it ? 403786;1386099234;mircea_popescu;then it's definitely more than the average car. 403787;1386099237;jborkl;yeah, a few months ago 403788;1386099246;jborkl;so ~48 btc 403789;1386099252;mircea_popescu;wait. it stands at ~9k profit with 10% fees?! 403790;1386099263;mircea_popescu;o wait nm, the 10% out of the 1% huh. 403791;1386099278;jborkl;yes 403792;1386099311;jborkl;so, it would require a large investment to make it worth buying for any amount 403793;1386099331;jborkl;so, not a bad deal for that scenario 403794;1386099341;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 507 @ 0.00247999 = 1.2574 BTC [-] {4} 403795;1386099374;mike_c;is it safe to login to the forums again? 403796;1386099386;kakobrekla;it was prolly never safe 403797;1386099387;mircea_popescu;well... as safe as it's ever been... 403798;1386099391;kakobrekla;first. 403799;1386099393;mircea_popescu;dammit 403800;1386099399;assbot;Last 6 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1491676/plain/) 403801;1386099399;kakobrekla;!b 6 403802;1386099403;assbot;[MPEX] [O] [O.USD.C110T] 1000 @ 0.03732936 = 37.3294 BTC [-] 403803;1386099450;pankkake;not safe for your brain. yet again we have a guy who thinks btc "inaccessible" and thus wants altcoins. and another guy who wants to buy a miner. both never had any bitcoin 403804;1386099456;pankkake;can we just switch to mbtc? 403805;1386099478;benkay;satoshis. 403806;1386099489;kakobrekla;a handfulls 403807;1386099496;mircea_popescu;that was fast. 403808;1386099498;benkay;the limit of the process is inevitable. 403809;1386099512;BingoBoingo;Fuck, let's switch to mSatoshis and have the media talk about how much Bitcoin crashed 403810;1386099516;mircea_popescu;pankkake looky. some people think mpex is inaccesible and so go flock on btctctetc 403811;1386099521;mircea_popescu;this isn;'t a bad thing. 403812;1386099524;assbot;[MPEX] [O] [O.USD.C110T] 1850 @ 0.03662533 = 67.7569 BTC [-] {2} 403813;1386099536;pankkake;not the same at all. you don't need one bitcoin 403814;1386099544;pankkake;but you need one mpex 403815;1386099565;mircea_popescu;who doesn't need a bitcoin ? 403816;1386099576;jborkl;it is funny how people still bitch about the way MPEX looks 403817;1386099585;mircea_popescu;is this going to be some sort of "all you need is love" thing ? 403818;1386099595;mike_c;is mechs trustworthy? no wot with that name. 403819;1386099597;pankkake;:/ 403820;1386099598;jborkl;flying rainbow unicorn 403821;1386099606;mircea_popescu;jborkl can you imagine how the nyse would look if they'd get a call in the matter ? 403822;1386099609;mircea_popescu;obamacare v2. 403823;1386099619;jborkl;yeah, no shit 403824;1386099642;jborkl;gotta make the graphics look good, oh wat it doesnt work- amazing graphics 403825;1386099642;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 403826;1386099649;pankkake;http://culthub.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/amazon-first-gateway-page.jpg 403827;1386099670;mike_c;"no reserve" != "starting bid is 4btc" 403828;1386099682;kleeck;.d 403829;1386099682;ozbot;707408283.05150 | Next Diff in 1278 blocks | Estimated Change: 23.7106% in 6d 18h 25m 42s 403830;1386099696;mircea_popescu;mike_c they do this thing where they announce a "starting bid" but it's not the actual starting bid 403831;1386099701;mircea_popescu;i've seen this. 403832;1386099721;jborkl;Mike, it does not matter if he is trustworthy- just have dooglus hold the escrow 403833;1386099746;mircea_popescu;in this parallel universe you can have an auction with a "starting bid" of 1 and a "reserve" of 10 which means that unless it reaches 10 the item doesn't sell. 403834;1386099751;mike_c;ok, thanks 403835;1386099761;pankkake;well, that's the ebay universe 403836;1386099766;mike_c;mircea_popescu: sometimes they take the reserve off if it isn't met 403837;1386099769;pankkake;secret reserves are so annoying 403838;1386099774;mike_c;so there can be value in bidding under the reserve 403839;1386099778;mircea_popescu;mike_c should be a crime if you ask me. 403840;1386099783;mike_c;yeah, its dumb 403841;1386099792;mircea_popescu;anyway, i was once with this chick who actually lived off going to no name auctions 403842;1386099799;mircea_popescu;and buying crap she resold in her shop and online 403843;1386099821;mircea_popescu;i nearly fell over laughing, all the housewives being all business-serious and bidding a hundred on some lamp 403844;1386099847;mircea_popescu;more like a tupperware party than an auction, but anyway. 403845;1386099859;pankkake;well, she provides some convenience for buyers, it's valuable 403846;1386099869;pankkake;once I bought a full pc, I accidentaly broke the motherboard, sold off the parts, got more money :| 403847;1386099877;kakobrekla;lol 403848;1386099879;mircea_popescu;pankkake the people filling captchas by hand also provide some convenience for some buyers. 403849;1386099894;mike_c;pc arbitrage, nice. 403850;1386099902;kakobrekla;you should break more stuff 403851;1386099922;mircea_popescu;i'll beat that story : a major romanian retailer bought ~100 laptops off a competitor, which the competitor was selling discounted, 403852;1386099929;mircea_popescu;to return on their own (more permissive) return policy. 403853;1386099932;pankkake;but it's also how you sell it. if you're a trusted seller, have nice pics, description, it gets higher 403854;1386099941;mircea_popescu;this was done by the actual owner packing the laptops in his own personal car. 403855;1386099967;mircea_popescu;i think the total loot for this grand scheme was around 5k or so. 403856;1386099992;pankkake;haha. that's why retailers usually put max orders and only allow individuals 403857;1386100007;mircea_popescu;myeah. HP could simply not believe the story. 403858;1386100015;mircea_popescu;"nigga, they did what ?!" 403859;1386100060;mircea_popescu;anywya. there's definitely a living to be earned doing this sort of hussling. 403860;1386100063;mircea_popescu;a lot of busywork it is. 403861;1386100500;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 160 @ 0.00248 = 0.3968 BTC [+] 403862;1386100513;benkay;true of most real-world arbitrage 403863;1386100559;dexX7;hmmm https://www.bitrated.com/ 403864;1386100571;mircea_popescu;benkay depends. consider the famous case of the ltcm 403865;1386100580;stephengandel;OK. So if I am going to short one bitcoin, or a fraction of a bitcoin, it makes more sense for me to go through a broker than do it with MPeX. Is that right? 403866;1386100600;kleeck;http://www.nzweek.com/world/china/china-exclusive-china-detains-bitcoin-fraud-suspects-102598/ 403867;1386100601;ozbot;China Exclusive: China detains Bitcoin fraud suspects - NZweek 403868;1386100608;mircea_popescu;o hey. 403869;1386100631;mircea_popescu;stephengandel if your budged is in the bitcoin range, and your technical sophistication low you are best served by a bitcoin. 403870;1386100652;mircea_popescu;think of mpex as the nyse, which is what it is. for most purposes you won't acquire a seat in the pit. 403871;1386100662;mike_c;*served by a broker 403872;1386100671;mircea_popescu;mike_c oops right. 403873;1386100676;stephengandel;gotcha 403874;1386100686;BingoBoingo;stephengandel: Yup. Coinbr, the broker does their opions on MPEx. As Mircea says though just holding the bitcoin may be the wiser course of action. 403875;1386100694;mircea_popescu;"A 29-year-old suspect surnamed Liu allegedly began operating GBL trading platform on May 27 of this year, according to police in Dongyang City in east Chinas Zhejiang Province." 403876;1386100697;mircea_popescu;kleeck kickass. 403877;1386100701;kleeck;:) 403878;1386100732;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo if he expects a drop then holding the bitcoin isn't particularly wise. 403879;1386100743;kleeck;Hope to soon have a similar article involving Armandi and Tatti. :D 403880;1386100746;stephengandel;gotcha. Will give it a try and let you know how it goes. 403881;1386100753;stephengandel;Do you think bitcoins will drop? 403882;1386100758;mircea_popescu;stephengandel you can also review the mpex monthly reports to see about how option trading has fared historically. a count of sold/bought contracts by the bot is provided in each 403883;1386100764;dexX7;they were quite fast. shut down oct 26, not even 2 months later some results 403884;1386100784;mircea_popescu;stephengandel someone sold a lot of calls short yesterday, right before the drop. 403885;1386100788;benkay;stephengandel: this is a channel of people who expect bitcoin to be the world reserve currency. 403886;1386100793;mircea_popescu;it proved do be only temporary, they may end up with a loss. 403887;1386100802;mircea_popescu;it's a very volatile market. 403888;1386100826;mircea_popescu;dexX7 if the chinese also shoot them, i'll be very impressed. 403889;1386100852;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Of course. In daytrading adventures though I was burned in february waiting for a crash or Flashcrash that never happened. Nao I hedge and bet to hedge, but largely hold things. 403890;1386100911;mircea_popescu;makes sense. 403891;1386100915;jcpham;http://fuckbitcoin.com/ 403892;1386100916;ozbot;fuck.bitcoin. | Damn this magic internet money 403893;1386100919;jcpham;work in progress 403894;1386100923;BingoBoingo;What is happening nao reminds me of when we passed silver dangling just below that target. Except now there isn't an Usagi swearing it won't happen. 403895;1386100924;mircea_popescu;yay. did you make it ? 403896;1386100927;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.16199349 = 0.324 BTC [+] 403897;1386100961;kakobrekla;http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/43500627.jpg 403898;1386100962;kakobrekla;dude 403899;1386100966;kakobrekla;i bought one for 5 403900;1386100973;kakobrekla;or was it 3 403901;1386100975;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo i just remembered that the usagi fellow was all over the many evil people who i was payying to contradict him. 403902;1386100981;jcpham;share your story 403903;1386100982;kakobrekla;dis shit is not funny to me! 403904;1386100983;mircea_popescu;i should have the girl dig that up 403905;1386100985;jcpham;once the contact page works 403906;1386100988;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.16199349 = 0.324 BTC [+] 403907;1386101026;stephengandel;Sorry to be stupid about this: where can I see that someone sold calls? where are the monthly mpex reports? Which one of the contracts on your site should I be looking at? 403908;1386101034;jcpham;this has only been a thing for about an hour now 403909;1386101050;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.1619935 = 1.134 BTC [+] 403910;1386101055;pankkake;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=177747.msg2409842#msg2409842 thankfully I never went further. but I remember the response "you are beginning to get a picture of how much financial damage Deprived has caused me" 403911;1386101058;ozbot;[BitFunder] TU.SILVER -- News & Reports 403912;1386101065;pankkake;so he's not blaming MP! 403913;1386101067;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: That was one of my first long thread reads on Bitcointalk. 403914;1386101072;mircea_popescu;stephengandel you're not being stupid by not knowing ; reports are in http://trilema.com/category/mpex/ 403915;1386101080;stephengandel;thanks. 403916;1386101107;mircea_popescu;you can see someone sold calls if you look either in the log of this chan (ttp://log.bitcoin-assets.com) or else on the site. 403917;1386101133;mircea_popescu;the yellow bar on the small graph next to O.USD.C050T 403918;1386101142;stephengandel;MPOE November statement. Is that where I should be looking? 403919;1386101170;mircea_popescu;yeah, that's for november. 403920;1386101171;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 13 @ 0.1619999 = 2.106 BTC [+] {3} 403921;1386101177;mircea_popescu;they go all the way to iirc february 2012 403922;1386101198;mike_c;stephengandel: 7,443 of these calls traded this month from mpex.co http://imgur.com/YnwH7PW 403923;1386101294;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Planning anything big for March 2015 when MPEx becomes more than half as old as the Bitcoin network? 403924;1386101301;mircea_popescu;why isn;t the trudy chick suing me ;/ 403925;1386101309;mircea_popescu;fucking artists with their complicated shoes. impossible to get a hold of. 403926;1386101329;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo hadn't thought of it... 403927;1386101345;mircea_popescu;is it legal for bitcoin ventures to plan one year in advance even ? 403928;1386101381;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Well, I don't see why not? The only authority in Bitcoin is signed contracts. 403929;1386101401;mircea_popescu;i was just being sarcastic. 403930;1386101426;mircea_popescu;"I have alot of respect for you man. I may want to pick your brain 403931;1386101426;mircea_popescu;throughout my adventure. If you have any openings or any available tasks I 403932;1386101426;mircea_popescu;might be able to help you with that will help me gain some valuable 403933;1386101426;mircea_popescu;experience, please do let me know." 403934;1386101442;mircea_popescu;i need to start doing something where people can help ;/ 403935;1386101469;kakobrekla;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZeOUI2zEbo 403936;1386101470;ozbot;The Crimson Permanent Assurance - Monty Python's "The Meaning Of Life" - YouTube 403937;1386101487;kakobrekla;worth rewatching. 403938;1386101488;mike_c;have him fix the html encoding on the trilema footnotes 403939;1386101497;mircea_popescu;they're broklen !? 403940;1386101501;mike_c;like, forever 403941;1386101504;nubbins`;heh 403942;1386101506;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPN3KTtrnZM 403943;1386101527;mircea_popescu;mike_c i only do that sorta shit with womenz. 403944;1386101529;kakobrekla;mhm :) 403945;1386101537;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33601001 BTC [-] 403946;1386101679;mircea_popescu;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_bsMGsBjWc << this is actually what i should be doing 403947;1386101679;ozbot;Monty Python Silly Job Interview Sketch - YouTube 403948;1386101692;kakobrekla;dat first link is mpex invading nyse 403949;1386101706;mircea_popescu;lol 403950;1386101720;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 133 @ 0.00247 = 0.3285 BTC [+] {2} 403951;1386101721;mircea_popescu;complete with whips and everything huh 403952;1386101727;kakobrekla;hehe 403953;1386101735;kakobrekla;mhm 403954;1386101859;mircea_popescu;so here's a random thought : about a year and a half ago i bought a pair of bitcoin engraved cufflinks from a guy that did a custom cufflink run 403955;1386101868;mircea_popescu;they're nothing special, brass, kinda nice. 403956;1386101879;mircea_popescu;they cost, i find reviewing my records, 3 btc and 25 cents. 403957;1386101895;kakobrekla;yep 403958;1386101895;mircea_popescu;this brass has cost me about 2 grams of gold per gram. 403959;1386101923;mircea_popescu;by BingoBoingo's 2015 megaparty they'd better be diamond studded and made out of frozen panda tears. 403960;1386101966;kakobrekla;and i drive half a mio usd car. 403961;1386101978;mircea_popescu;well at least it has injection. 403962;1386102009;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: I imagine by 2022 on the 10th anniversary of MPEx the diamonds would be synthesized from the panda tears. 403963;1386102028;mircea_popescu;but yeah, wait until bentley figures out that there's these dudes who routinely pay 500k for a car and don't even expect it to fly. 403964;1386102059;BingoBoingo;kakobrekla: I've always preferred the 500 usd cars. It's hard to feel guilty when you make them fly. 403965;1386102064;mircea_popescu;actually... we should probably count our blessings. once the rest of the world figures out there's billionaires hanging out on irc kakobrekla will be spending his days doing nothing but banning salesmen in here. 403966;1386102093;kakobrekla;double lol. 403967;1386102106;mircea_popescu;a 500 btc carpal tunnel! 403968;1386102130;pankkake;I'm sure there are automated ways to catch salesman 403969;1386102152;nubbins`;i've smoked things that would now be worth 6 grams of gold per gram 403970;1386102156;nubbins`;feels great 403971;1386102158;mircea_popescu;someone should ipo a Topless Salesman Catching Brigade. 403972;1386102165;mircea_popescu;like gaddafi's ukrainian nurses, 403973;1386102172;mircea_popescu;except for butts. 403974;1386102191;thestringpuller;are we all laughing at 7C yet? 403975;1386102197;thestringpuller;or should i come back? 403976;1386102199;nubbins`;we did briefly earlier today 403977;1386102212;mircea_popescu;come back, 1 year! 403978;1386102220;nubbins`;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-12-2013#403225 403979;1386102222;ozbot;#bitcoin-assets log 403980;1386102229;thestringpuller;lololol 403981;1386102239;pankkake;I haven't understood what 7C is yet 403982;1386102244;nubbins`;nobody has 403983;1386102245;pankkake;but I don't think I want to anymore 403984;1386102269;BingoBoingo;So 7C is basically if farmville was Euloria, but with USD revenue and Facebook? 403985;1386102273;mircea_popescu;it's like 1btc, i thought, except havelock listed it for some reason. 403986;1386102278;pankkake;havelock clearly hasn't done their job 403987;1386102302;pankkake;well, they want the monies 403988;1386102308;nubbins`;^ 403989;1386102377;ll;;;calc 373.52591376/400000 403990;1386102377;gribble;0.0009338147844 403991;1386102452;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.34933745 = 0.6987 BTC [+] 403992;1386102574;jborkl;nubbins`: "when you get tired of wasting money, console yourself with your huge in-game rep and 3d friends < awesome 403993;1386102594;jborkl;isn't that just -otc and the forum 403994;1386102595;nubbins`;i have brief moments of lucidity 403995;1386102605;nubbins`;jborkl: it's a lot of things. 403996;1386102675;jborkl;ah only a 23,000 btc valuation 403997;1386102748;nubbins`;yeah, total lowball 403998;1386102767;nubbins`;considering buying entire company with spare change, etc 403999;1386102784;pankkake;I have this http://i.imgur.com/Wo2nK6q.png to console me but it doesn't really work 404000;1386102786;BingoBoingo;Honestly more than million dollar bitcoin, I'm waiting for the republic of Bitcoin to annex Cuba where despite taking an opposite ideological stance to Fidel's regime this island remains opposed to the USG's incompetence. 404001;1386102849;mircea_popescu;<jborkl> ah only a 23,000 btc valuation << wehat! 404002;1386102870;mircea_popescu;dude where's that delusionist cartoon 404003;1386102940;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 192 @ 0.0024752 = 0.4752 BTC [+] {2} 404004;1386102945;mike_c;well, if havelock is worth 50k, why not 23k for 7c? 404005;1386103031;mircea_popescu;i guess i better start saving my nail clippings. 404006;1386103248;pankkake;so, now saying "paragon of retardation" is grounds for getting a post deleted. mods=fags 404007;1386103249;jborkl;well 7c should IPO for 12,400 bitcoins in super nerd BTC 404008;1386103350;mircea_popescu;you shouldn't have said paragon. 404009;1386103388;pankkake;I expected the joke to come up. perhaps I should have proved my expectation by putting it in the blockchain 404010;1386104282;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 245 @ 0.00245 = 0.6003 BTC [-] 404011;1386104295;jcpham;http://fuckbitcoin.com/fuuuuuck/ 404012;1386104502;mike_c;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=344219.0 404013;1386104508;mike_c;you really pissed this guy off! 404014;1386104543;ozbot;Threats to extort and blackmail BCT companies by the user 'pankkake' 404015;1386104574;jurov`;Just got email from @fortune.com. Dude can't figure out mpoe options and asking for help :) 404016;1386104587;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00081614 = 1.2242 BTC [-] 404017;1386104600;benkay;that'd be stephengandel, no? 404018;1386104644;jurov`;Yes. 404019;1386104648;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 228 @ 0.00248 = 0.5654 BTC [+] 404020;1386104686;jurov`;Seems completely lost, not sure where i should begin. 404021;1386104723;mike_c;he was looking to short btc. just tell him to buy an atm put. 404022;1386104742;jurov`;Mhm ok. 404023;1386104849;mircea_popescu;lol self mod 404024;1386104861;mircea_popescu;pankkake https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=339544.msg3811647#msg3811647 the girl sends her regards. 404025;1386104958;mircea_popescu;jurov` yeah i dunno what's going on there, but don't end up railroading some noob into buying complex financial instruments he doesn't understand. 404026;1386105014;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 722 @ 0.00248 = 1.7906 BTC [+] 404027;1386105023;mike_c;senior editor at fortune is financial noob? 404028;1386105032;mircea_popescu;i'm just saying in general 404029;1386105042;benkay;the bitbet irc channel? 404030;1386105065;benkay;this boggles. 404031;1386105086;mircea_popescu;benkay ? 404032;1386105131;benkay;mircea_popescu: the btctalk thread you linked has people talking about the bitbet irc channel and linking the -assets log 404033;1386105139;mircea_popescu;o o, older stuff. yeah. 404034;1386105165;mircea_popescu;pankkake if that nonsense doesn't wake up forum mods to the insanity that selfmod threads are, i dunno what will. maybe bitch at them. 404035;1386105197;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 249 @ 0.00248999 = 0.62 BTC [+] 404036;1386105502;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 159 @ 0.00248999 = 0.3959 BTC [+] 404037;1386105504;jurov`;I just railroaded them into funding voinbr account and laid out their options 404038;1386105522;mircea_popescu;voyna br! 404039;1386105536;jurov`;Lol 404040;1386105541;damagebritain;is AM worth holding? 404041;1386105568;mircea_popescu;damagebritain probably a better choice than most alternatives. 404042;1386105588;mircea_popescu;but it's a mining venture. it's mostly going to go lower. 404043;1386105698;BingoBoingo;damagebritain: If you have AM, maybe hold it for a while and dump it if the share price spikes when their next gen shit comes online, provided they actually have next gen shit. 404044;1386105715;damagebritain;We'll see won't wee 404045;1386105748;damagebritain;Have you seen the reports of their immersion cooled blades? I know it isn't next gen but that is cool 404046;1386105796;dub;immersion cool even 404047;1386105798;Duffer1;ya it is quite impressive 404048;1386105819;Duffer1;now they need better gear worthy of their cooling tech :P 404049;1386105820;mircea_popescu;well cool is one thing. you meant to ask if it's worth holding for the cool ? 404050;1386105840;dub;wet is another thing 404051;1386105841;damagebritain;No looking for dividends and hopefully they announce something next gen and we see growth 404052;1386105844;dub;cool and wet 404053;1386105851;benkay;warm and wet > cool and wet 404054;1386105877;damagebritain;new hardware sales and whatnot 404055;1386105888;dub;benkay: not always 404056;1386105894;kakobrekla;necro 404057;1386105980;dub;don't discount the Ability-to-sell-shity-gear-to-retards-hand-over-fist factor 404058;1386105993;damagebritain;theres that, too 404059;1386105998;dub;still plenty of milk in that cow 404060;1386106006;mircea_popescu;dub problem is the price went up 404061;1386106017;jurov`;They need laz0r cooling 404062;1386106019;mircea_popescu;the btc price i mean. to get 1 btc that way you need a lot of retards. 404063;1386106023;BingoBoingo;damagebritain: Dividends are over rated, but S.NSA is cheap at the moment. 404064;1386106025;dub;countrer problem is theres a lot more retards in the market 404065;1386106033;mircea_popescu;this is true 404066;1386106041;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo how do you judge that ? 404067;1386106075;damagebritain;S.NSA never heard of it 404068;1386106078;kakobrekla;dividends are like candy to make kids shut the fuck up 404069;1386106109;benkay;snsa is currently pricing in risk of not making delivery by the 25th 404070;1386106132;jurov`;BingoBoingo and what is fair price? I'll gladly update my sell order and refer everyone to your wise words :) 404071;1386106168;dub;surely there is 2 weeks of contingency built in there 404072;1386106223;benkay;dub: pardon? 404073;1386106243;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Just guessing from the gut. 404074;1386106255;BingoBoingo;jurov`: Pulling magic out of my ass 404075;1386106265;jurov`;Duly noted. 404076;1386106301;mike_c;s.nsa has 1.2k market cap. 7c could buy it like, 20 times over. 404077;1386106303;mircea_popescu;by the way, anyone know smt plants working for btc ? 404078;1386106314;mircea_popescu;mike_c yeah but then it wouldn't be as cool. 404079;1386106315;damagebritain;whats a good exchange for s.nsa 404080;1386106323;mike_c;coinbr.com 404081;1386106329;benkay;damagebritain: mpex.co 404082;1386106341;kakobrekla;dont go all railroading yo. 404083;1386106353;BingoBoingo;damagebritain: Assuming you aren't on MPEX and don't have 30 BTC to register with... mike_c 404084;1386106359;jurov`;No coinbr referrals? Thanks for teh monyz :D 404085;1386106375;BingoBoingo;damagebritain: Seriously though read moar. Don't invest because this rando told you to. 404086;1386106389;mike_c;wouldn't want to be accused of being a shill and "associate" of jurov :) 404087;1386106403;damagebritain;oh I'm not it looks like it just crashed and isn't hashing yet? 404088;1386106411;mike_c;uh oh 404089;1386106412;BingoBoingo;damagebritain: Fine wait, I'll get the referral link 404090;1386106416;damagebritain;price just crashed 404091;1386106423;mike_c;it's not a mining company 404092;1386106424;kakobrekla;LOL! 404093;1386106428;jurov`;mike_c you will be accused anyway, why not get paid for it? 404094;1386106436;mike_c;true 404095;1386106451;kakobrekla;hear that mp, cardanos not hashing yet wahts up wiff dat 404096;1386106480;BingoBoingo;damagebritain: Here's a Coinbr referral link. 404097;1386106482;FabianB;wahaha, reading is hard 404098;1386106484;damagebritain;whoa I'm just speculating don't know too much lol 404099;1386106484;mircea_popescu;we will make a statement about the statement which we can't make for legal reasons at a later point which is very sorry to please understand death in the family my new car crashed 404100;1386106502;mircea_popescu;in completely unrelated news, 404101;1386106505;mircea_popescu;"By making their product or artwork display neotenous traits, designers attempt to sway people to enjoy or desire their product because it appears childish, adorable, soft or otherwise desirable. By making a product cute, the nucleus accumbens in the human brain is targeted and elicits a protective or coddling response, which encourages an individual to acquire (purchase) said item. By designing items, characters, food 404102;1386106505;mircea_popescu;or anything else in this manner, product designers attempt to create the same reaction to a product that a human baby could create." 404103;1386106514;BingoBoingo;This describes S.NSA http://mpex.co/?mpsic=S.NSA 404104;1386106517;mircea_popescu;so basically designers should be round up and shot. 404105;1386106546;jurov`;don't forget to get experts of unrelated company involved under nda 404106;1386106559;mircea_popescu;yes, obama is working for me 404107;1386106567;mircea_popescu;he has 2 year's experience in managing website creation and deployment, 404108;1386106571;mircea_popescu;under budget and over spec. 404109;1386106602;BingoBoingo;damagebritain: Here's more text explaining what S.NSA has planned in the near future. 404110;1386106603;BingoBoingo;http://trilema.com/category/snsa/ 404111;1386106603;ozbot;S.NSA pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 404112;1386106632;mircea_popescu;so honest question : company with watercooled blades vs company with pubis-bare shirts. 404113;1386106633;mircea_popescu;which is cooler ? 404114;1386106647;BingoBoingo;The latter 404115;1386106652;damagebritain;it isnt water 404116;1386106659;kakobrekla;IT ISNT WANTER!!!!11 404117;1386106664;kakobrekla;-n 404118;1386106671;mircea_popescu;what is it, oil ? 404119;1386106672;BingoBoingo;Could get wet though... 404120;1386106676;mircea_popescu;hahaha 404121;1386106680;assbot;Last 12 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1491784/plain/) 404122;1386106680;mircea_popescu;!b 12 404123;1386106681;jurov`;mp needs photos with goo 404124;1386106684;damagebritain;yea probably 404125;1386106688;jurov`;Or milk. 404126;1386106695;mircea_popescu;milk cooled asics 404127;1386106701;mircea_popescu;now that'd be something to behold. 404128;1386106703;jurov`;^ 404129;1386106717;mircea_popescu;if difficulty shoots up too much at least you can eat the cheese. 404130;1386106743;kakobrekla;hahah 404131;1386106752;KRS|gotyawallet;;;goxlag 404132;1386106760;gribble;MtGox lag is 2.777023 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0055651229989 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter to its largest moon, Ganymede (0.007155 AU). 404133;1386106770;mircea_popescu;KRS|gotyawallet isn't actually krs im just realising 404134;1386106798;KRS|gotyawallet;eh 404135;1386106822;KRS|gotyawallet;"krs" is some cat in s.america who registered the nick 404136;1386106894;mircea_popescu;right 404137;1386106922;mircea_popescu;by the way, did i mention i now own #nude ? 404138;1386106945;KRS|gotyawallet;hah cool..need to figger out an ipo for btc sex 404139;1386106958;KRS|gotyawallet;sex is cash money with or without btc 404140;1386106966;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 16666 @ 0.00258018 = 43.0013 BTC [+] {17} 404141;1386106982;KRS|gotyawallet;maybe #bitcoin-anal 404142;1386106991;mircea_popescu;i thought i owned that too 404143;1386106999;mircea_popescu;I THINK I OWN ALL THE THINGS 404144;1386106999;kakobrekla;i dont think thers much game in sex and btc, but if pays dividends.... 404145;1386107000;KRS|gotyawallet;i think you do, but i'm holding it down 404146;1386107026;KRS|gotyawallet;Bitcoin-Ass specials: 2 liters anal lube .003 BTC. SENSATIONAL!! 23" Monster Cock (only comes in color BLACK) made with the finest rubber and steel belts. BLOWOUT: Everyone's favorite laxitive COLON BLOW. Everyday low price .001 BTC. 404147;1386107047;kakobrekla;thats too much 404148;1386107054;mircea_popescu;* Loaded log from Fri Apr 26 16:44:13 2013 lol 404149;1386107088;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 3314 @ 0.00274 = 9.0804 BTC [+] 404150;1386107101;Duffer1;colon blow omg... 404151;1386107576;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 380 @ 0.00274 = 1.0412 BTC [+] 404152;1386107616;dub;did anyone actually post a coinbr referral? https://coinbr.com/ref?c=A3R7Tstq16 404153;1386107637;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 68 @ 0.00274 = 0.1863 BTC [+] 404154;1386107966;KRS|gotyawallet;bitbar is now $99? 404155;1386108003;mircea_popescu;what bar is that ? 404156;1386108023;kakobrekla;thats their market cap prolly 404157;1386108159;Vexual;choocks finally started laying 404158;1386108216;truffles;what kind 404159;1386108228;dub;you are that guy from wolf creek right? 404160;1386108285;Vexual;i dunno what kind, theyre brown, got them from the market 404161;1386108338;truffles;u mean a real chicken .. 404162;1386108353;Vexual;four of your finest pullets please sir 404163;1386108437;mike_c;not pullets any more 404164;1386108452;truffles;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LK9JIVUHaM 404165;1386108452;ozbot;aussie chook laying egg - this one's a cracker! - YouTube 404166;1386108453;ThickAsThieves; so basically designers should be round up and shot. <<<< in some regards, yes, but in the end a designer is paid to solve a "problem" and more often than not, in a way they would not prefer 404167;1386108458;truffles;tramatized now 404168;1386108483;ThickAsThieves;clients cause oodles of depression and frustration for that field 404169;1386108578;KRS|gotyawallet;1 bitbar = .0979 BTC ~ $100 https://bter.com/trade/btb_btc 404170;1386108586;KRS|gotyawallet;what in the fuhhh 404171;1386108613;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 209 @ 0.00274 = 0.5727 BTC [+] 404172;1386108671;Vexual;ahh so thats why i baby talk to my vw bettle 404173;1386108674;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 40 @ 0.00274 = 0.1096 BTC [+] 404174;1386108724;ThickAsThieves;come to think of it, i kinda disagree with the premise that designers create things to look babyish 404175;1386108763;benkay;the cloaca blooms 404176;1386108792;Vexual;your little fuely wuely pump is so inaccesible and ALWYAS FUCKING BREAKIN! 404177;1386108797;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2100 @ 0.00081427 = 1.71 BTC [-] 404178;1386108824;BingoBoingo;KRS|gotyawallet: Well, with especially failed altcoins there is not uncommonly just one holder and setting the exchange rate so arbitrarily involves a minimal amount of actual money. 404179;1386108866;mike_c;bitbars are "rare", so the price of one doesn't mean much. market cap of all them is only $600k 404180;1386108875;mike_c;http://coinmarketcap.com/ 404181;1386108875;ozbot;Crypto-Currency Market Capitalizations | Bitcoin Litecoin Peercoin Namecoin QuarkCoin Megacoin Proto 404182;1386108909;ThickAsThieves;there's $50m in quarkcoinz? 404183;1386108911;ThickAsThieves;lol 404184;1386108945;jurov`;Sooo dude from fortune just asked me if he can fund coinbr account with credit card... 404185;1386108945;ThickAsThieves;litecoin almost $1b 404186;1386109007;ThickAsThieves;not so fortunate he can afford real mpex i guess 404187;1386109016;ThickAsThieves;or maybe he emailed them to 404188;1386109020;ThickAsThieves;too 404189;1386109076;BingoBoingo;Lol jurov` 404190;1386109082;Vexual;company card? 404191;1386109134;KRS|gotyawallet;a lot of people are going to receive teh proverbial "sore anus" at some distant future. 404192;1386109142;jurov`;Dunno what card, i rejected. But maybe i can actually sell the card for btc and use that to fund the acct? 404193;1386109157;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves sucks for the designers. 404194;1386109189;BingoBoingo;http://metro.co.uk/2013/12/03/katana-kitsao-gona-kenya-goat-sex-attacker-faces-victim-in-court-4211564/ 404195;1386109189;ozbot;Katana Kitsao Gona: Kenya goat sex attacker faces victim in court | Metro News 404196;1386109223;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 3000 @ 0.00048972 = 1.4692 BTC [-] 404197;1386109240;mircea_popescu; litecoin almost $1b <<< do you realise most fiat companies are worth less than the lauighingstock altcoin ? 404198;1386109268;jurov`;Oh and he wants to really short bitcoins not just buy/sell some options. 404199;1386109283;jurov`;Anyone wants to lend him for lulz? 404200;1386109290;Vexual;then cry to visa when he fails? 404201;1386109297;mircea_popescu;jurov` if he can't readily buy bitcoin how would he sell it ? 404202;1386109334;mircea_popescu;inb4 he ends up with 7k of mtgox usd he can't actually get sent to his acct and we get a forbes bitcointalk thread 404203;1386109339;benkay;why do the traditional short instead of playing options? 404204;1386109342;jurov`;Hmmmm.. that's where the lulz come. 404205;1386109349;BingoBoingo;... So the Fortune editor is basically Bakewell 2.0? Can he even ident with gribble? 404206;1386109362;ThickAsThieves;he wants to short? 404207;1386109363;mircea_popescu;benkay maybe because the plan is to short enough to move the price ? 404208;1386109365;ThickAsThieves;how much? 404209;1386109372;ThickAsThieves;send him in here 404210;1386109381;ThickAsThieves;he'll probly find a deal 404211;1386109383;mircea_popescu;why so mean ThickAsThieves 404212;1386109389;jurov`;Dunno. Not in mood to investigate. 404213;1386109393;benkay;BingoBoingo: he hit irc from a web client. 404214;1386109396;ThickAsThieves;mean? 404215;1386109404;ThickAsThieves;i guess bulls are mean 404216;1386109411;BingoBoingo;benkay: Still doesn't preclude getting in the WoT 404217;1386109418;ThickAsThieves;and I am a Taurus after all 404218;1386109422;mircea_popescu;ha. 404219;1386109431;benkay;BingoBoingo: implies insufficient familiarity with the toolchain to get in the WoT. 404220;1386109447;jurov`;So should i just write him i have friends on irc and they will loan you? 404221;1386109448;mircea_popescu;anyway, i would imagine guy got a good enough starter to figure what's what. at this point either he's on a deadline for the next article and well, just drops the entire thing, 404222;1386109456;mircea_popescu;or else embarks on the 6 mo to a year of lurking, reading and so on. 404223;1386109468;BingoBoingo;benkay: He's a senior editor. I'm pretty sure he can bully one of his help desk dorks into loaning him the coins. 404224;1386109483;mike_c;nah, his help desk dork with btc is worth more than him now 404225;1386109491;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo and then he gets davout to whitelist him on btc central or what ? 404226;1386109493;Vexual;maybe they gonna out satoshi 404227;1386109505;benkay;BingoBoingo: his help desk dorks don't have enough btc to short and move the price anywhere 404228;1386109521;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: I imagine he does an OTC trade in a rest stop bathroom? 404229;1386109527;mircea_popescu;well... of course they don't. 404230;1386109527;benkay;;;market sell 1000 404231;1386109533;gribble;A market order to sell 1000 bitcoins right now would net 1115751.6083 USD and would take the last price down to 1100.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 1115.7516 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0702 seconds 404232;1386109547;ThickAsThieves;mega-slippage 404233;1386109549;benkay;;;market sell 1000000 404234;1386109550;gribble;A market order to sell 1000000 bitcoins right now would net 34063873.7035 USD and would take the last price down to 0.0017 USD, resulting in an average price of 34.0639 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 16.7910 seconds 404235;1386109551;jurov`;ThickAsThieves: can I kindly refer him to bitcoin powerhouse of TAT Investments? 404236;1386109559;ThickAsThieves;not hanks 404237;1386109563;mircea_popescu;benkay to quote one of the better lines in city hall, "You ever seen a journalist with a million dollars in cash ?" 404238;1386109582;ThickAsThieves;unless he wants to a secret shadowy silhouette article on me 404239;1386109587;Vexual;are bloggers journalists? 404240;1386109597;benkay;all journalists are bloggers now. 404241;1386109598;truffles;lol TAT's a baller 404242;1386109613;mircea_popescu;truffles tat shorted the difficulty, i'll have you know. 404243;1386109635;truffles;subject im unfamiliar with 404244;1386109641;mike_c;and he is gunna lose 404245;1386109643;benkay;mircea_popescu, ThickAsThieves how'd shorting the difficulty work out? 404246;1386109650;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 115 @ 0.002735 = 0.3145 BTC [-] 404247;1386109654;mircea_popescu;shorting the difficulty never works out 404248;1386109667;mircea_popescu;the difficulty is a very long difficulty indeed. 404249;1386109677;benkay;"the market can remain irrational far longer than you can remain solvent" 404250;1386109679;ThickAsThieves;i shorted diff? 404251;1386109684;mike_c;bitbet 404252;1386109692;ThickAsThieves;well that aint settled yet 404253;1386109699;mircea_popescu;benkay it can remain rational for even longer than you can remain irrational, is the catch 404254;1386109711;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1085 @ 0.00273959 = 2.9725 BTC [+] {3} 404255;1386109723;ThickAsThieves;;;nethash 404256;1386109724;gribble;6400549.04237 404257;1386109727;ThickAsThieves;stahp! 404258;1386109741;assbot;Last 7 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1491849/plain/) 404259;1386109741;mircea_popescu;!b 7 404260;1386109741;ThickAsThieves;he wait 404261;1386109744;mircea_popescu;totally. 404262;1386109749;ThickAsThieves;it did stop 404263;1386109766;BingoBoingo;;;ident BingoBoingo 404264;1386109766;gribble;Nick 'BingoBoingo', with hostmask 'BingoBoingo!~BingoBoin@unaffiliated/bingoboingo', is identified as user BingoBoingo, with GPG key id 309BB8D7F3251143, key fingerprint ADD7A9A28F85E5EF1F51904F309BB8D7F3251143, and bitcoin address None 404265;1386109770;mircea_popescu;funniest thing i read all day. 404266;1386109773;ThickAsThieves;thats the same diff from this morning? 404267;1386109782;mircea_popescu;nethash ! what r u doing! nethash! STAHP!!! 404268;1386109783;ThickAsThieves;sorry, nethash 404269;1386109786;ThickAsThieves;not diff 404270;1386109793;benkay;.d 404271;1386109793;ozbot;707408283.05150 | Next Diff in 1256 blocks | Estimated Change: 24.1215% in 6d 14h 35m 14s 404272;1386109806;ThickAsThieves;;;bcstats 404273;1386109809;gribble;Current Blocks: 272919 | Current Difficulty: 7.074082830514966E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 274175 | Next Difficulty In: 1256 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 9 hours, 47 minutes, and 45 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 880424029.301 | Estimated Percent Change: 24.45769 404274;1386109817;benkay;i'm intrigued by the bitbet about difficulty falling 404275;1386109824;BingoBoingo;This blogger is willing to offer the Senior Editor a 2,500,000 Satoshi Grant to study shorting Bitcoin or a 5,000,000 Satoshi loan 404276;1386109880;mircea_popescu;interestingly enough, any arrangement wherein you borrow bitcoin and then sell it is, in fact, an option. 404277;1386109887;BingoBoingo;If he is serious he can find my email address embedded here http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/pgp/ or I'll probably still be lurking 404278;1386109902;mike_c;well, that is the definition of a short 404279;1386109907;mike_c;borrow and sell 404280;1386109914;mircea_popescu;yes. 404281;1386109929;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iL-3VLXNqAI 404282;1386109930;ozbot;porsche using EMP device on Mullet Ride (to keep from being passed @ thunderhill) - YouTube 404283;1386109973;mircea_popescu;mike_c but your contract has an implicit strike (established by the interest you pay on the borrow and the price you get on the sale) 404284;1386109982;mircea_popescu;and it has an expiration (established by the borrow) 404285;1386109986;mircea_popescu;thus, it's exactly an option. 404286;1386109993;benkay;ha! 404287;1386110004;benkay;dat topological identity. 404288;1386110016;mircea_popescu;well yeah 404289;1386110044;benkay;i was wondering the other night how likely bitbet would be to displace formal options trading 404290;1386110045;mircea_popescu;how do you think options ended up existing in the first place, 404291;1386110055;mircea_popescu;it's not like i was bored one day and invented a new thing/ 404292;1386110067;mircea_popescu;benkay not too likely, it's kinda clunky 404293;1386110076;mike_c;ah, i see your point. got it. 404294;1386110079;benkay;well yeah and the whole otc lubrication of trade 404295;1386110089;mircea_popescu;yeah 404296;1386110091;benkay;er otc -> contract standardization i mean 404297;1386110279;ThickAsThieves;where are the new Yes bets? http://bitbet.us/bet/519/btc-network-difficulty-to-top-1b-before-2014/ 404298;1386110483;BingoBoingo;stephengandel: Do you have a bitcoin client of you own running yet? 404299;1386110504;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.0008094 = 7.4465 BTC [-] 404300;1386110569;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves if you look at it, the yes side is few and mostly large bets, the no is mostly many small bets 404301;1386110588;mircea_popescu;this to me looks definitely like miners are dominating the yes side. 404302;1386110626;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 883 @ 0.00274 = 2.4194 BTC [+] {2} 404303;1386110809;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 125 @ 0.00274973 = 0.3437 BTC [+] 404304;1386110860;mircea_popescu;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZWn2AaJoZo << here, because you're all nuts. 404305;1386110860;ozbot;Animaniacs: Macadamia Nut **Lyrics in Description** - YouTube 404306;1386110992;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 141 @ 0.00274982 = 0.3877 BTC [+] {2} 404307;1386111053;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 7400 @ 0.0001099 = 0.8133 BTC [-] 404308;1386111054;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 87 @ 0.00276 = 0.2401 BTC [+] 404309;1386111058;ThickAsThieves;did Havelock skip having a forum thread for the new IPOz? 404310;1386111076;Duffer1;the 7c thing? 404311;1386111110;ThickAsThieves;yeah 404312;1386111160;Duffer1;i didn't even look, i read the email then deleted it when i read the 3rd quarter 2014 part 404313;1386111175;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1190 @ 0.00010995 = 0.1308 BTC [+] 404314;1386111180;ThickAsThieves;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=354208.msg3791494;topicseen#new 404315;1386111182;ozbot;SENIGMA a way forward? 404316;1386111185;ThickAsThieves;look at those poll questions 404317;1386111188;ThickAsThieves;hehe 404318;1386111236;assbot;[MPEX] [S.NSA] 1250 @ 0.00012 = 0.15 BTC [+] 404319;1386111256;Duffer1;i like voteing 404320;1386111321;Duffer1;7c IPOing soon, won't get anything done for a year (while btc price triples in the meantime) sounds like another VTX 404321;1386111419;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 6032 @ 0.00011017 = 0.6645 BTC [+] {4} 404322;1386111602;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5699 @ 0.00011966 = 0.6819 BTC [+] {4} 404323;1386111688;mircea_popescu;didn't vtx also get hacked ? 404324;1386111695;Vexual;7c would be a lot cooler if they were building a town in antarctica 404325;1386111711;mircea_popescu;"For a few months now, Whilst I hold my share prices at 0.012, When I started, This was nothing, Now it is starting to be something, Whilst this is good for early adopters who have got the value back already, Is this too high for anyone else to come in? 404326;1386111711;mircea_popescu;Your thoughts here." 404327;1386111712;mircea_popescu;what ? 404328;1386111753;mircea_popescu;what part of the "i hold my share prices" do i woefully misunderstand ? 404329;1386111817;ThickAsThieves;i think it's a PMB and/or scam 404330;1386111835;ThickAsThieves;but i aint gonna dig deeper 404331;1386111842;mircea_popescu;so is it an actual bond, as in, with a principal and everything ? 404332;1386111846;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.156 BTC [-] 404333;1386111897;Vexual;yep, he buys mining equipment. dividends exist. the end 404334;1386111930;mircea_popescu;so then how does he hold the shares at whatever 404335;1386111930;ThickAsThieves;http://www.coindesk.com/btc-e-exchange-banking-issues/ 404336;1386111963;mircea_popescu;"for many weeks" ? 404337;1386111968;assbot;[MPEX] [O] [O.USD.C095T] 320 @ 0.04412653 = 14.1205 BTC [-] 404338;1386112002;Vexual;I will set a buy back out at 20% ??? 404339;1386112010;ThickAsThieves;the dude has colleted less than 10btc 404340;1386112011;ThickAsThieves;https://cryptostocks.com/securities/45 404341;1386112029;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2000 @ 0.00278701 = 5.574 BTC [+] {7} 404342;1386112048;ThickAsThieves;good day for neo 404343;1386112057;mircea_popescu;Ive sent large amounts by wire and its always worked within 24 hours. Check your deposit " 404344;1386112070;mircea_popescu;retardds. obviously wires in would work fine. 404345;1386112209;ThickAsThieves;so does btc-e carrying litecoin prevent the Gox effect here? 404346;1386112213;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1292 @ 0.00278768 = 3.6017 BTC [+] 404347;1386112214;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33676818 BTC [-] 404348;1386112215;snackman;which one of you is mircea_popescu ? 404349;1386112228;mircea_popescu;snackman kakobrekla. 404350;1386112237;mircea_popescu;i'm really jurov, who is ThickAsThieves. 404351;1386112242;mircea_popescu;it's complicated, because finance. 404352;1386112247;snackman;pathethic piece of romanian scum 404353;1386112257;snackman;or whatever post-communist shithole you come from 404354;1386112260;truffles;didnt see that one coming 404355;1386112271;ThickAsThieves;now taking bets on how long before snakcmna is banned or run out of here 404356;1386112273;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.33586098 = 3.6945 BTC [-] {8} 404357;1386112297;mircea_popescu;the dazzling variety of irc. 404358;1386112306;snackman;this gypsy owes me 1,000,000 US-dollar cents 404359;1386112318;truffles;0,0 404360;1386112319;mircea_popescu;(which, i will have you know, somalis pronounce irtz) 404361;1386112333;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FE0XcdM22Yo 404362;1386112334;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1440 @ 0.00278768 = 4.0143 BTC [+] 404363;1386112335;ozbot;Scatman John - I'm A scatman - YouTube 404364;1386112339;kakobrekla;lol 404365;1386112348;snackman;no, but seriously guys 404366;1386112354;ThickAsThieves;ok sorry 404367;1386112359;mircea_popescu;snackman http://trilema.com/2013/the-strange-case-of-the-delusionist-and-later-stories/ << check out the cartoon. 404368;1386112361;mircea_popescu;it's about you. 404369;1386112370;snackman;mircea_popescu: ok hold on 404370;1386112427;ThickAsThieves;the oglaf guy has some good stuff 404371;1386112459;snackman;mircea_popescu: nice cartoon, also nice post btw 404372;1386112470;snackman;is that you in the header picture? 404373;1386112480;mircea_popescu;yes. 404374;1386112480;ThickAsThieves;it's jurov of course 404375;1386112487;mircea_popescu;aw shit. caught in my own web of lies 404376;1386112505;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves it's a woman! 404377;1386112529;ThickAsThieves;it's just a pyramid 404378;1386112531;ThickAsThieves;calm down 404379;1386112540;mircea_popescu;no i mean the oglaf GUY. it's a girl. 404380;1386112548;ThickAsThieves;ah ha! 404381;1386112552;ThickAsThieves;that explains a lot 404382;1386112556;mircea_popescu;so rarely women do anything worth the mention. why rob them of the little they do. 404383;1386112557;snackman;well, mircea_popescu, sorry but i can't get it out of my head: *why* do you not want to pay me my 10btc back. please just explain it to me in a calm and rational way 404384;1386112568;ThickAsThieves;i was just like wow this dude is very progressive with these gay frames 404385;1386112574;mircea_popescu;snackman actually, there was a post about that, too. didja read that ? 404386;1386112612;snackman;mircea_popescu: i did. 404387;1386112619;mircea_popescu;well that's about it. 404388;1386112626;snackman;mircea_popescu: i'm listening to what you have to say. that post developed into a bashfest 404389;1386112627;kakobrekla;as all the roads lead to rome, all the questions lead to trilema 404390;1386112641;mircea_popescu;the trirome! 404391;1386112652;kakobrekla;and the roastions 404392;1386112685;ThickAsThieves;trirome, pronounced like tyranny 404393;1386112705;mircea_popescu;no, like tryrammy. 404394;1386112708;mircea_popescu;like thrice rammed. 404395;1386112730;ThickAsThieves;when in rome 404396;1386112734;snackman;mircea_popescu: i'm still listening. you are wasting my precious time 404397;1386112750;mircea_popescu;you got that a little backwards neh ? 404398;1386112756;ThickAsThieves;we're all wasting each other precious time, dont give him all the credit 404399;1386112776;mircea_popescu;no homo. 404400;1386112789;snackman;mircea_popescu: you might wanna look up megalomania then 404401;1386112812;ThickAsThieves;surely he has it tatooed on his penis 404402;1386112830;mircea_popescu;i was thinking... this guy's theory is that i simultaneously invented the thing and also don't know what it is ?! 404403;1386112864;dub;megalomania is an awesome old RTS game 404404;1386112894;ThickAsThieves;snackman, why did you bet so late 404405;1386112898;snackman;mircea_popescu: so then tell me, why are your genes contaminated by sub-human east european scum parents? 404406;1386112906;mircea_popescu;o.o 404407;1386112909;dub;fast bux are the best bux derp 404408;1386112909;snackman;ThickAsThieves: because i wanted to make the most out of it 404409;1386112913;snackman;yeah 404410;1386112915;mircea_popescu;don't they teach debate in school anymore ?! 404411;1386112921;ThickAsThieves;make the most loss out of it? 404412;1386112927;dub;did he just call mp a nigger? 404413;1386112944;snackman;mircea_popescu: at least we have schools here :) 404414;1386112949;Duffer1;cancelled due to budget cuts mp :P 404415;1386112952;mircea_popescu;i think i should be insulted by being related to the hottest chicks on planet earth or something 404416;1386112955;snackman;for everybody, not just the overprivileged party members 404417;1386112967;snackman;mircea_popescu: nah, i don't think that 404418;1386112969;mircea_popescu;where's that mit video 404419;1386112973;Duffer1;if it's not football it's not funded 404420;1386112979;jamespeerless;does bitbet have a minimum bet? seems like they'd lose money on transaction fees if I don't bet much? 404421;1386112989;snackman;mircea_popescu: tbh, it's kinda hard to debate an online nickname that has taken 10btc from you and tries to keep it using "arguments" 404422;1386112991;mircea_popescu;jamespeerless no minimum bet so far. 404423;1386113004;mircea_popescu;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ve23i5K334 << 404424;1386113004;ozbot;MIT genuises with lightbulb - YouTube 404425;1386113011;snackman;truffles: he took my btcs 404426;1386113013;Bunnyh;is the NO on bitbet charts really gray? seems teal to me 404427;1386113023;mircea_popescu;Bunnyh im colorblind. 404428;1386113027;truffles;why'd he take em snackman? 404429;1386113037;Bunnyh;ok,i thought i am 404430;1386113047;mircea_popescu;snackman it's not a nickname dood. that's my name. 404431;1386113107;mircea_popescu;jamespeerless the reason is that we're oldfags, which means rich, which means with a lot of old coinbases, which means tx are free. or something. 404432;1386113144;jamespeerless;what do you mean? why would they be free 404433;1386113160;mircea_popescu;the prioritization of txs takes into account the concept of "bitcoin days destroyed" 404434;1386113169;mircea_popescu;that's the product of a coinbase's volume with its age. 404435;1386113197;snackman;truffles: because my transaction was not confirmed in time 404436;1386113208;snackman;truffles: it was placed on the correct bet though 404437;1386113208;mircea_popescu;so if you have 1k btc that weren't moved for 3 years, you get about 1mn times the priority of a 1btc that was moved yest. 404438;1386113217;jamespeerless;got it 404439;1386113219;jamespeerless;makes sense 404440;1386113230;truffles;snackman gotta read fine prints 404441;1386113237;mircea_popescu;in principle it's good for the network to keep moving coins around, i suspect. 404442;1386113262;kakobrekla;imo just bigger chain 404443;1386113262;mircea_popescu;or at least satoshi thought so for some reason. 404444;1386113268;kakobrekla;why 404445;1386113270;kakobrekla;where 404446;1386113274;mircea_popescu;it's one of the points i don't quite grasp tbh 404447;1386113280;snackman;truffles: they weren't, they were FAQs, and i never agreed to them, also this particular clause was *surprising*, therefore not applicable for yet another reason 404448;1386113284;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla well because of the particular design, seems implicit in it. 404449;1386113294;ThickAsThieves;Hey MP, how bout a compromise, put "Late Bets Will Be Retained" or such on the Send Bitcoins page of bitbet 404450;1386113310;snackman;mircea_popescu is only not returning them because he assumes that it is unlikely that i will sue him in romania 404451;1386113311;truffles;so ur situation was outside of terms ? 404452;1386113319;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves the problem with this approach is that 1. it empowers nonsense and 2. it bloats pages. 404453;1386113330;Vexual;faqs are accepted to form contract 404454;1386113338;snackman;truffles: yet, because the txn was sent before, it only arrived later because nobody confirmed it 404455;1386113339;dub;interestingly educatoin in .us and .ro sucks somewhat equally 404456;1386113344;mike_c;i always took the priority the opposite, that is - it is discouraging moving coins too much by giving recently spent coins lower priority 404457;1386113348;kakobrekla;mircea_popescu not like you can mitigate it 404458;1386113349;snackman;Vexual: yes, if they explicitely ask you to confirm them, which they didnt 404459;1386113352;dub;though dumb romanians are smarter than dumb americans 404460;1386113358;snackman;Vexual: also only if there are no surprising clauses 404461;1386113360;mircea_popescu;mike_c when i say move coins around i mean, not have very old coinbases. 404462;1386113363;ThickAsThieves;so you dont think "reasonable man" is a concept to consider? 404463;1386113375;snackman;? 404464;1386113395;ThickAsThieves;a reasonable man would likely assume his bet would either be valid at the time of sending, or refunded at a fee 404465;1386113398;Vexual;a reasonable man reads the contract 404466;1386113420;snackman;mircea_popescu has forgotten the current btc price, making my loss around 12000 usd, making it more than worth pursing a lawyer. also for the satisfaction of seeing this bastard lose in court 404467;1386113421;truffles;snackman i get what ure saying, id already have refunded u if it were my biz though, gl 404468;1386113425;ThickAsThieves;a reasonable contract typically wouldnt have snares 404469;1386113429;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves a reasonable man would not send bitcoin on the basis of his assumptions. 404470;1386113433;snackman;truffles: thanks. 404471;1386113437;mircea_popescu;otherwise the reasonable man can start sending to random addresses. 404472;1386113446;snackman;mircea_popescu: nice non sequitur 404473;1386113459;snackman;mircea_popescu: and nice attempt derailing his point 404474;1386113474;ThickAsThieves;do what you want, i;m just sayin youll likely have this problem continually 404475;1386113477;mike_c;seriously, if it is such an important amount of money why didn't you do a little research first? doesn't that seem wrong to you at all? 404476;1386113493;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00278768 = 0.5575 BTC [+] 404477;1386113499;snackman;mike_c: there was not much time left 404478;1386113505;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves well, i'm doing what i think is right, and in so doing i'm preventing others from having the same sort of problem all the time. 404479;1386113509;mike_c;right.. so you should not have done it. 404480;1386113512;snackman;mike_c: also, i followed the basic rules: bet on what you think will win 404481;1386113517;mircea_popescu;the space in which bitcoin busienss will happen is primarily shapen by what sort of precedent we create for it. 404482;1386113521;ThickAsThieves; ThickAsThieves well, i'm doing what i think is right, and in so doing i'm preventing others from having the same sort of problem all the time. <<< fair enough 404483;1386113536;snackman;mircea_popescu: you are a scum to the bitcoin economy and community 404484;1386113546;snackman;mircea_popescu: you are but a leach, you are what is disgraceful in human beings 404485;1386113549;mircea_popescu;snackman im the largest thing in it ya klutz. 404486;1386113552;ThickAsThieves;snackman you would be a good diplomat 404487;1386113559;snackman;ThickAsThieves: why? 404488;1386113559;mike_c;snackman: can you settle a bet for me. have you placed any more bets on bitbet yet? 404489;1386113568;ThickAsThieves;you have a way with words 404490;1386113572;snackman;mircea_popescu: then why would 10btc matter to you? 404491;1386113583;ThickAsThieves;he just said why 404492;1386113602;mike_c;cmon snack, fess up. you've place more bets haven't you :) 404493;1386113605;ThickAsThieves;because he feels his policy helps create the kind of world he wants to live in 404494;1386113623;snackman;ThickAsThieves: why would i be a good diplomat? 404495;1386113631;ThickAsThieves;you wouldnt 404496;1386113638;ThickAsThieves;it's a joke 404497;1386113645;ThickAsThieves;you suck at convincing people to help you 404498;1386113666;truffles;i dont think u want him to be more convincing 404499;1386113686;mike_c;i will send you 0.001 btc if you answer me. it will help you recover. 404500;1386113705;truffles;thats a general you 404501;1386113722;Duffer1;whats all this drama now? 404502;1386113735;Duffer1;someone lost money.. on bitbet? 404503;1386113737;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3950 @ 0.00081266 = 3.21 BTC [+] 404504;1386113750;ThickAsThieves;yeah they sent money after the answer was known 404505;1386113754;turbo_ac100;Namworld, I can't get my S.BBET and S.BBET redeemed. That's still possible right? 404506;1386113773;Duffer1;interesting 404507;1386113814;ThickAsThieves;turbo_ac100, jurov`can help you, via coinbr.com 404508;1386113814;snackman;mike_c: of course i have placed more bets afterwards on bidbet 404509;1386113827;snackman;ThickAsThieves: lie 404510;1386113833;turbo_ac100;ThickAsThieves, thanks 404511;1386113837;dub;lol 404512;1386113841;snackman;Duffer1: they are lying to keep my ONE MILLION cents 404513;1386113855;mike_c;awwww, sweet, i win. post address and i will send the donation 404514;1386113865;snackman;my address? 404515;1386113873;mike_c;if you want the 0.0001 btc i promised 404516;1386113881;mike_c;er, 0.001 404517;1386113887;Duffer1;i don't believe they would have to lie to keep your money, there must be something i'm missing 404518;1386113897;dub;mike_c: make sure you pay the fee 404519;1386113898;mircea_popescu;Duffer1 a 10 page forum thread 404520;1386113902;mike_c;lol 404521;1386113903;Duffer1;not like my opinion matters at all in this anyways, i was just curious 404522;1386113923;Duffer1;erf, i'll pass, hehe 404523;1386113939;dub;mike_c: might want to also check if snackman is the 1 person that doesnt require confirmations 404524;1386113944;snackman;mike_c: 16TNs3DYjkGZrnEW4KV7ust6sWU3Esk7eW 404525;1386113979;mircea_popescu;in 2020 mike_c will be all like "well sonny, i remember back in the old days, mp was there, and i sent this kid a whole bitcent on a lark" 404526;1386113985;mike_c;hehe 404527;1386113985;dexX7;Duffer1: problem was actually that the bet was already resolved when his tx/bet was confirmed which - according to bitbet's faq - entitles bitbet to keep the coins 404528;1386113986;mircea_popescu;"yeap. that's how it was back then..." 404529;1386114030;Vexual;and the lawyer got paid a three yeart retainer on that one case... 404530;1386114048;jamespeerless;mircea_popescu: do you know if sendmany only charges one transaction fee regardless of # of recipients? 404531;1386114061;Vexual;one tx, one fee 404532;1386114084;mircea_popescu;jamespeerless i knowandit does. 404533;1386114093;mircea_popescu;andineed a newspacebar 404534;1386114123;jamespeerless;what about the 'per kb' rules? i think i read somewhere that 5 recipients is about 1kb? any merit to that? 404535;1386114151;dub;looking back on how much a trilemna page view cost should be fun 404536;1386114176;mircea_popescu;jamespeerless the recipients aren't the problem. it's about 60 bytes per 404537;1386114192;mircea_popescu;your inputs are often the problem, because 1 btc could be made out of 100 mn inputs, aka 10gb 404538;1386114210;snackman;mircea_popescu: do you have a larger version of your avatar https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?PHPSESSID=5rlspco75dem9q993n3gh96j90&topic=350342.msg3752137#msg3752137 404539;1386114213;snackman;? 404540;1386114228;mircea_popescu;you know that's not actually me ? 404541;1386114231;Duffer1;dexx7 i see, thanks 404542;1386114258;snackman;mircea_popescu: your *avatar* 404543;1386114279;mircea_popescu;... 404544;1386114289;mircea_popescu;it's not my account dood. it's my pr chick. 404545;1386114311;snackman;mircea_popescu: yes, i know. it's not her either, just a random pic from the internet 404546;1386114319;Vexual;http://neogrotesque.net/wp-content/uploads/avatar-3.jpg 404547;1386114321;ThickAsThieves`;snackman, mircea is schizophrenic 404548;1386114334;snackman;ThickAsThieves`: i know right 404549;1386114337;ThickAsThieves`;common in the colorblinded 404550;1386114342;mircea_popescu;sigh 404551;1386114344;ThickAsThieves`;lol 404552;1386114347;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 262 @ 0.00278768 = 0.7304 BTC [+] {3} 404553;1386114351;mircea_popescu;snackman http://trilema.com/2013/the-stuff-all-good-conspiracy-theories-start-with/ scroll down 404554;1386114376;snackman;LOL 404555;1386114376;snackman;This article is available for a fee. 404556;1386114382;snackman;megalomania at its finest :D 404557;1386114392;dub;bloggin aint easy 404558;1386114394;mircea_popescu;seems you read a bunch. get a proxy. 404559;1386114396;dexX7;lol 404560;1386114400;dexX7;this was telling 404561;1386114408;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 286 @ 0.00278769 = 0.7973 BTC [+] 404562;1386114413;dexX7;what's the amount of free articles again? 404563;1386114417;mike_c;http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/further-image.jpg 404564;1386114425;snackman;no, i scrolled through a bunch of them to see if this counter was real or trolling 404565;1386114440;dub;yea, dude is running around telling everyone not to use bitbet and avoid mp. all the while still useing bitbet and hanging on mp's every blog 404566;1386114446;snackman;mike_c: where are the horses? 404567;1386114446;ThickAsThieves`;thats not mp in that table pic 404568;1386114465;mike_c;bottom right is mpoe-pr 404569;1386114468;Vexual;counting and reading all on the same day? 404570;1386114471;snackman;dub: i literally just explained to you why the counter was 0 404571;1386114500;mircea_popescu;dexX7 5/week 404572;1386114505;ThickAsThieves`;oh that reminds me of that joke 404573;1386114509;snackman;Vexual: i klicked on 6 articles to see if the fee counter was a troll, which would have been funny indeed, if not, retarded as fuck 404574;1386114538;mircea_popescu;... 404575;1386114559;ThickAsThieves`;It's hard to explain puns to kleptomaniacs because they always take things literally. 404576;1386114559;mike_c;mircea_popescu: are company reports exempt from fee? 404577;1386114566;mircea_popescu;anyway, the guy on the right there with the dorky hairdue is actually the lawyer you'll probably end up having to argue with 404578;1386114582;mircea_popescu;mike_c yes, if you don't need to read more than 20 a month. 404579;1386114588;snackman;mircea_popescu: who doesn't have a dorky haircut in the picture? 404580;1386114593;snackman;mircea_popescu: also, what picture is this? 404581;1386114608;mircea_popescu;snackman well you're poor and so can't afford the context. 404582;1386114624;snackman;mircea_popescu: let the king explain to the peasant then 404583;1386114652;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 85 @ 0.0028 = 0.238 BTC [+] {2} 404584;1386114657;mircea_popescu;just use mike's cent to buy some credits 404585;1386114668;mircea_popescu;I GET ALL THE COINS 404586;1386114673;snackman;mircea_popescu: how many do you own? 404587;1386114674;kakobrekla;wait for a month so it matures first 404588;1386114685;benkay;.d 404589;1386114685;ozbot;707408283.05150 | Next Diff in 1243 blocks | Estimated Change: 24.4964% in 6d 12h 14m 26s 404590;1386114713;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.0028 = 0.56 BTC [+] 404591;1386114758;snackman;mircea_popescu: also, if you happen to get any higher resolution pix of your PR chick, let me know. 404592;1386114781;mircea_popescu;i'll see if google turns anything up. 404593;1386114782;Duffer1;ya that doesn't sounds creepy dude 404594;1386114783;snackman;mircea_popescu: i'd happily wank to a girl that's into bitcoins 404595;1386114788;snackman;mircea_popescu: it didn't 404596;1386114801;snackman;mircea_popescu: oh sorry, misunderstood you 404597;1386114804;snackman;mircea_popescu: please do 404598;1386114901;snackman;mircea_popescu: also, if you would be willing to return even, let's say 10% of the money, that would save both of us lots of stress and i would not bother you again 404599;1386114925;snackman;seeing that i probably will really have to contact a lawyer... 404600;1386114947;mircea_popescu;use your noggin for thinking : if my return from hanging out here were actually negative, i wouldn't or else i'd have you sent off. 404601;1386114984;ThickAsThieves`;that sentence 404602;1386114993;snackman;make no sense 404603;1386115000;mircea_popescu;what srsly ? 404604;1386115030;mircea_popescu;i'm just saying, talking to random peeps on irc isn't stressing me, it's mildly enjoyable. 404605;1386115046;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Clarification on a much earlier point of yours. No lawyers presentinga criminal defense, but lawyers are fine arguing in civil cases? 404606;1386115063;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo sure. the worst they can do is lose you some money. 404607;1386115063;BingoBoingo;Fuck, I think I've been doing this legal shit backasswards. 404608;1386115069;mircea_popescu;that's no different from hiring a plumber. 404609;1386115071;dub;the guy donated $12k to you, might sa well hang out on irc 404610;1386115080;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 148 @ 0.0028 = 0.4144 BTC [+] 404611;1386115096;mike_c;well, to the shareholders 404612;1386115098;dub;shit, throw him some blog credits, he earned it 404613;1386115125;mike_c;he also drummed up a lot of new business 404614;1386115138;mircea_popescu;no cause he insultged my megalomania by claiming my troll counter is megalomaniac 404615;1386115141;dub;mp is 80% of shareholders tho 404616;1386115148;mike_c;nah 404617;1386115149;mircea_popescu;dub no i'm not, im under 50% 404618;1386115153;dub;orly 404619;1386115168;snackman;mircea_popescu: bets are weighted, so late bets do not disturb the force field 404620;1386115170;mircea_popescu;yesrly. kako and i have ~35% + w/e didn't sell of the 30% put on sale. 404621;1386115176;jamespeerless;why do you even have share holders? why not just run it yourself? 404622;1386115188;mircea_popescu;snackman except if the bet closes early, cause that means the weight was out of whack. 404623;1386115200;mircea_popescu;jamespeerless i'm trying to build bitcoin into an actual thing. 404624;1386115213;jamespeerless;by running a gambling website? 404625;1386115231;mircea_popescu;by running all sorts of things correctly. 404626;1386115241;BingoBoingo;jamespeerless: A great gambling website. I've won moar there than I lost on Satoshidice. 404627;1386115241;turbo_ac100;prediction market. please! 404628;1386115247;ThickAsThieves`;maybe bitbet should have a setting for each bet for rate of weight loss 404629;1386115250;ThickAsThieves`;a curve 404630;1386115257;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves` it was in the original spec 404631;1386115272;mircea_popescu;we cut it out, because curve notation is more than the average person can grok mentally 404632;1386115278;snackman;mircea_popescu: are you satoshi? 404633;1386115282;mircea_popescu;and having it graphical turned out to be insanely difficult. 404634;1386115282;ThickAsThieves`;so use gfx 404635;1386115289;snackman;mircea_popescu: if you are, i take everything back, the megalomania is justified 404636;1386115289;ThickAsThieves`;make 3 options 404637;1386115290;mike_c;same rationale as 3-way resolutions 404638;1386115290;mircea_popescu;snackman no, i'm nick szabo. 404639;1386115297;snackman;mircea_popescu: so that's a yes 404640;1386115297;ThickAsThieves`;fast regular slow 404641;1386115301;BingoBoingo;ThickAsThieves`: What's next? Allowing bet creators to specify elliptic curves the bet weight passes through as it degrades over time? 404642;1386115314;ThickAsThieves`;yes, thats what we are talking about 404643;1386115315;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves` what's wrong with just setting the weight end point to 80k or w.e ? 404644;1386115337;dub;appears we are past acceptance and into the dick slurping phase of grief 404645;1386115342;ThickAsThieves`;i think maybe i misunderstood end weight all along 404646;1386115353;ThickAsThieves`;which now seems obvious 404647;1386115363;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves` and you wanteds me to implement splines. 404648;1386115379;snackman;mircea_popescu: admit it dude 404649;1386115396;snackman;mircea_popescu: this entire escapade of mine was to test your style 404650;1386115406;mircea_popescu;o, there was deeper meaning ? 404651;1386115411;snackman;mircea_popescu: lol of course 404652;1386115412;mircea_popescu;i like it when there's deeper meaning 404653;1386115414;ThickAsThieves`;admit what snackman did mp 404654;1386115444;snackman;and what i assumed was confirmed beyong expectation 404655;1386115455;snackman;beyond*, as typos are made when you're excited 404656;1386115475;Duffer1;if true then your actions are too meta for me to grock.. 404657;1386115504;mircea_popescu;Duffer1 it probably has something to do with post communism. 404658;1386115519;Duffer1;oh lawd you're not helping mp lol 404659;1386115525;BingoBoingo;snackman: The simple answer is to get your bets in much earlier. As close to opening as possible. Just draw a bullseye on a piece of paper and jack off. If more cum is on the right bet yes. On the left bet no. 404660;1386115543;snackman;mircea_popescu: not being engrained into mainstream economics by birth certainly helped you 404661;1386115563;snackman;BingoBoingo: the conversation moved on, screw the play money, i have a much bigger fish to catch 404662;1386115566;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo do you have a bitbeteratorium ? 404663;1386115595;benkay;snackman: fishing for buttcorns? 404664;1386115608;ThickAsThieves`;sending an email to wikimedia re: donation request pop-up: 404665;1386115625;ThickAsThieves`;No bitcoin option? Fairweather friends get no shine. 404666;1386115630;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Maybe? Maybe instead of the paper bullseye though I hire a pair of tits. I'm trying to imagine snackman's budget though. 404667;1386115633;snackman;benkay: i have enough, thank you. i got in early 404668;1386115653;benkay;snackman: your aggro over 10 seems unwarranted then 404669;1386115657;mircea_popescu;it's incredible how many people that got in early showed up late. 404670;1386115662;mircea_popescu;we'd have never guessed in like, 2012. 404671;1386115666;BingoBoingo;snackman: Actually in IRC everything is roughly on topic for at least 24 hours after it was last mention provided you scroll up 404672;1386115704;benkay;snackman holds all the buttcorns. it's his private pre-mined altcoin, mircea_popescu, not actual bitcoins. 404673;1386115713;snackman;benkay: please read the last 5 minutes. the entire thing was an act, carefully orchestrated, and mircea_popescu fell for it graciously 404674;1386115718;benkay;that's what he means by "got in early" 404675;1386115731;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: To be fair before you showed it was pretty much just the dev circle jerk and the Silk Road honey pot 404676;1386115776;mircea_popescu;then mp said "let there be tits1 404677;1386115781;mircea_popescu;and lo tits rain galoare. 404678;1386115807;BingoBoingo;snackman: I'll give you 5,000,000 Satoshis for a sharpie in the pooper pic with BB written on your asscheeks 404679;1386115830;snackman;BingoBoingo: the address is up there 404680;1386115833;snackman;it's not mine btw 404681;1386115881;BingoBoingo;snackman: It honestly is seeming now like nothing is yours, but the cold embrace of nothingness. How is the void? 404682;1386115933;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10090 @ 0.0001011 = 1.0201 BTC [-] {2} 404683;1386115950;dub;ThickAsThieves`: considering half of wikimedia corp is gmaxwells sausage wallet, they've probably consdired it 404684;1386115966;snackman;he who own's the keys owns the coins. and he who own's the void owns... 404685;1386115972;snackman;shit 404686;1386115977;dub;clearly it didnt rustle jimmies jimmies 404687;1386115980;snackman;i have found satoshi 404688;1386116055;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 936 @ 0.00278769 = 2.6093 BTC [-] {2} 404689;1386116091;BingoBoingo;snackman: Nah, for that you'd have to check someone's freezer 404690;1386116101;snackman;BingoBoingo: why do you think that? 404691;1386116129;snackman;BingoBoingo: why actually kill him to prevent his coins from crashing the market? why not just delete his keys? 404692;1386116157;BingoBoingo;snackman: Dude invented a cryptocurrency and was paranoid as fuck? Satoshi is probably mooching off of pizza rolls someone else's mom bought 404693;1386116179;snackman;BingoBoingo: i thought you meant in someone's freezer meant dead 404694;1386116202;BingoBoingo;snackman: Who the fuck are you Jeffery Damer? 404695;1386116230;dub;he certainly eats some penus 404696;1386116237;snackman;BingoBoingo: sorry, pills 404697;1386116241;snackman;BingoBoingo: work both ways 404698;1386116250;mircea_popescu;you're too young to be taking pills. 404699;1386116298;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Moar like not ratchet enough... 404700;1386116308;BingoBoingo;;;ud ratchet 404701;1386116309;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ratchet | A diva, mostly from urban cities and ghettos, that has reason to believe she is every mans eye candy. Unfortunately, she's wrong. Typical signs to ... 404702;1386116309;ozbot;Urban Dictionary: ratchet 404703;1386116315;snackman;mircea_popescu: i lived long enough to witness your birth 404704;1386116343;snackman;;;ud subhuman romanian nigger scum 404705;1386116344;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=kike&defid=1479218&page=2 | ... Europe (Poland, Romania or Russia), whose family names often ended with "ki " ... Neo-Nazi scum claim that "kikes" control both major US political parties and ... 404706;1386116345;ozbot;Urban Dictionary: kike 404707;1386116424;mircea_popescu;snackman http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-11-2013#389001 404708;1386116475;snackman;mircea_popescu: haha where did you get that pic? 404709;1386116485;mircea_popescu;S.NSA 404710;1386116531;BingoBoingo;S.NSA is gunna kill SnapChat 404711;1386116540;jamespeerless;mircea_popescu: why have separate addresses for each bet instead of just a single address that holds bets for YES and NO? 404712;1386116560;kakobrekla;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-11-2013#389017 404713;1386116563;ozbot;#bitcoin-assets log 404714;1386116565;kakobrekla;o yeah fuck alomost forgot! 404715;1386116575;mircea_popescu;jamespeerless how do you identify who sent which ? 404716;1386116583;BingoBoingo;jamespeerless: So people can continue betting on the same position 404717;1386116600;mircea_popescu;there's numerous advantages. 404718;1386116601;jamespeerless;mircea_popescu: can't you read the from address in the transaction block? 404719;1386116614;mircea_popescu;you can but you don't want to, because this way people can send from webwallets or w/e 404720;1386116623;BingoBoingo;Sometimes you wanna hedge. Sometimes you wanna take all of the position. 404721;1386116657;jamespeerless;why can't they send from web wallets if you did a single address per bet option 404722;1386116665;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 45 @ 0.33513812 = 15.0812 BTC [-] {3} 404723;1386116675;mircea_popescu;cause if 5 peopel sent from the same wallet to the same bet your identifiocation scheme would fail 404724;1386116689;mircea_popescu;also because if i sent the winnings to the address that sent the bet people would end up fucked if they sent from a wallet. 404725;1386116711;mircea_popescu;(as most wallets don't have any way to associate their payment system to their users) 404726;1386116726;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2539 @ 0.0028 = 7.1092 BTC [+] 404727;1386116729;snackman;nice 404728;1386116732;snackman;everything here is a scam 404729;1386116733;jamespeerless;hm I guess I don't understand "wallets" enough then.. i thought an address was an address 404730;1386116741;snackman;even mike_c didn't send his promised coins 404731;1386116746;ThickAsThieves`;lol 404732;1386116747;mircea_popescu;not practical for a web wallet to allocate addresses to users 404733;1386116751;mircea_popescu;because it has to coldstore its btc 404734;1386116755;jamespeerless;ah got it 404735;1386116757;jamespeerless;makes sense 404736;1386116763;mircea_popescu;snackman maybe he didn't include a tx fee ? 404737;1386116773;jamespeerless;seems like most wallets let you generate receiving addresses though 404738;1386116782;snackman;mircea_popescu: bahahhaahah 404739;1386116786;mircea_popescu;receiving yes. but they pay from wherever is convenient. 404740;1386116798;ThickAsThieves`;i like that setup 404741;1386116800;snackman;mircea_popescu: what a jew indeed 404742;1386116805;Vexual;i just went to my local casino and tried betting after the bell. Apparently the chips go to the house. 404743;1386116811;snackman;maybe i will meet him in the synagoge on saturday 404744;1386116812;ThickAsThieves`;very convenient when you have coins in 10 diff places 404745;1386116823;mircea_popescu;it dioes have its advantages 404746;1386116839;BingoBoingo;ThickAsThieves`: Who doesn't spread their coins over at least 7 places? 404747;1386116848;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 250 @ 0.00288 = 0.72 BTC [+] 404748;1386116854;ThickAsThieves`;Jesus doesn;t 404749;1386116861;mircea_popescu;bitcoin jesus ? 404750;1386116867;ThickAsThieves`;which one? 404751;1386116881;mircea_popescu;Pietilla Maxwell Von Ver ? 404752;1386116888;BingoBoingo;stephengandel, that Bitcoin Jesus 404753;1386117015;ThickAsThieves`;whatever happened to IceDrill anyway? 404754;1386117022;snackman;mircea_popescu: btw, how much did you cash out? 404755;1386117030;snackman;when btc hit 1kusd? 404756;1386117031;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 76 @ 0.00289 = 0.2196 BTC [+] 404757;1386117037;kakobrekla;lol 404758;1386117039;benkay;"cave early" 404759;1386117041;BingoBoingo;Unless we get into some weird gnostic Bitcoin theology where Amir Taaki was Satoshi/Jesus and then gave himself downs syndrome to hide his secret. 404760;1386117057;snackman;benkay: ? 404761;1386117063;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo satoshi wasn't a virgin. 404762;1386117106;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: At some point he/she/monkeyfuckingapig was... 404763;1386117119;Vexual;vd in the orginal code? 404764;1386117124;mircea_popescu;well at that point satoshi wasn't satoshi yet. 404765;1386117128;benkay;well gosh snackman read the log for the past 10 days then you might have a clue as to the references 404766;1386117180;BingoBoingo;Considering earlier references in this channel has anyone seen Amir's hair yet? 404767;1386117191;ThickAsThieves`;http://www.icedrill.io 404768;1386117192;ozbot;IceDrill.ASIC: a DigiMex project 404769;1386117204;ThickAsThieves`;digital mexicoins! 404770;1386117212;mircea_popescu;what's with the .io stuff anyway ? 404771;1386117214;mircea_popescu;they're all scams! 404772;1386117246;ThickAsThieves`;mexicoin, possibly the best name for a nationcoin? 404773;1386117255;ThickAsThieves`;vaticoin 404774;1386117262;kakobrekla;i liked the .io a lot cause of the jupiters moon 404775;1386117264;asciilifeform;sovcoin. 404776;1386117278;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla ya but then they went and inputsio'd all over it 404777;1386117291;mod6;i used Io once as a a scabble word and was rejected :( 404778;1386117292;kakobrekla;yea :( 404779;1386117298;mircea_popescu;(dunno if that cognate works in somalian. to enstinken) 404780;1386117320;mircea_popescu;chococoin 404781;1386117332;mircea_popescu;backed by vanilla. 404782;1386117349;BingoBoingo;Well, we will know when we've hit forbidden territory when .Europa happens. 404783;1386117389;ThickAsThieves`;so icedrill has oodles of hardware, just none that mines? 404784;1386117401;ThickAsThieves`;http://www.icedrill.io 404785;1386117401;ozbot;IceDrill.ASIC: a DigiMex project 404786;1386117403;ThickAsThieves`;oops 404787;1386117407;ThickAsThieves`;https://plus.google.com/photos/100533316768811011163/albums/5946837483879253265 404788;1386117408;ozbot;IceDrill.ASIC DC visit 404789;1386117423;ThickAsThieves`;ethere they are https://plus.google.com/photos/100533316768811011163/albums/5946837483879253265/5946840121426110546?pid=5946840121426110546&oid=100533316768811011163 404790;1386117434;ThickAsThieves`;what a nightmare 404791;1386117436;dexX7;nono 404792;1386117456;dexX7;they only have a space here afaik: https://plus.google.com/photos/100533316768811011163/albums/5946837483879253265/5946838391947548818?sort=1&pid=5946838391947548818&oid=100533316768811011163 404793;1386117467;dexX7;and are waiting for hashfast units 404794;1386117477;ThickAsThieves`;i heard hashfast is scamming 404795;1386117481;asciilifeform;what part of this couldn't have been filmed by a bored sysop anywhere on the planet? 404796;1386117531;kakobrekla;hehe BingoBoingo :) 404797;1386117549;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform the girl. 404798;1386117558;BingoBoingo;I know you got the reference kakobrekla 404799;1386117560;mircea_popescu;o wait, nm. wrong webpage. 404800;1386117593;kakobrekla;yeah, teh avatar is dead giva away 404801;1386117598;kakobrekla;giveaway 404802;1386117634;BingoBoingo;The only problem with HAL is that the contractor's specs insisted he be programmed to run on a Java Virtual Machine 404803;1386117644;kakobrekla;:D 404804;1386117682;Kleeck_;ThickAsThieves`, are you joking about HashFast scamming? 404805;1386117698;asciilifeform;maybe i'm just behind the times. but, picture some bozo: 'i'ma build a skyscraper. here's lots of pictures of my bulldozers, cranes! here's some cement mixers!' 404806;1386117730;Kleeck_;No. You are current with the times. 404807;1386117767;ThickAsThieves`;Kleeck I am not joking 404808;1386117772;Kleeck_;I could walk into my datacenter and snap a bunch of awesome pictures. It doesn't mean I'm mining a damn thing. 404809;1386117794;Kleeck_;ThickAsThieves`, any data that lead you that direction? I have no skin in that game, but I've wondered. It's just a hunch. 404810;1386117797;ThickAsThieves`;a friend is considering legal counsel against Hashfast 404811;1386117799;asciilifeform;the sane people version: 'built a skyscraper. here's what it'll cost ya per sq. m. come in?' 404812;1386117805;mike_c;snackman: have some faith! my wallet is sync'ing. you'll have it soon. 404813;1386117805;ThickAsThieves`;that's all i know 404814;1386117816;Kleeck_;Due to the delays? 404815;1386117819;ThickAsThieves`;i didnt ask for details 404816;1386117829;ThickAsThieves`;he was looking for a referral 404817;1386117833;mike_c;transactions aren't instantaneous you know ;) 404818;1386117833;Kleeck_;I see. 404819;1386117840;Kleeck_;Not YET, mike_c 404820;1386117852;snackman;mike_c: hope dies last 404821;1386117860;dexX7;hashfast is not shipping/delayed more than a month now 404822;1386117884;Kleeck_;Don't they have a compensation program? 404823;1386117906;dexX7;they have some strange refund policies, if you mean that 404824;1386117921;snackman;ThickAsThieves`: why is hashfast scamming? 404825;1386117941;ThickAsThieves`;same reason as all scammers i assume 404826;1386117947;ThickAsThieves`;it was the plan, or it became the plan 404827;1386117989;asciilifeform;man jumps in front of moving bus. considers legal action against bus. 404828;1386117998;Kleeck_;The cost of being legit is far less appealing than the old "cut and run" I'd assume. 404829;1386118131;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform originally this started as a hobbyst project. 404830;1386118137;mircea_popescu;people don't have 10k laying around the house. 404831;1386118147;mircea_popescu;consequently, the first fpga's were pretty much a potluck affair 404832;1386118159;mircea_popescu;that system worked 404833;1386118166;mircea_popescu;(everyone delivered, even bfl) 404834;1386118189;mircea_popescu;it was stretched past its usability into insanity by a desperate desire and need for stability. bitcoin doesn't offer much of that, 404835;1386118195;mircea_popescu;so people naturally tried to stick to what works 404836;1386118206;mircea_popescu;that's pretty much the story of how we ended up with the insanity. 404837;1386118286;mircea_popescu;Kleeck_ people fail to correctly value reputations. 404838;1386118310;Kleeck_;There is some truth to that, mircea_popescu. 404839;1386118339;mircea_popescu;there's a lot of truth to it. let's lay it out : bozo comes in when bitcoin is 1 year old, can start a reputation within a week and be doing business within am onth. 404840;1386118345;mircea_popescu;he imagines the value of this is 1 month. 404841;1386118362;mircea_popescu;two years later, he needs to be 1 year+ old to be even considered, because now bitcoin is 4 years old. 404842;1386118363;BingoBoingo;Seems for Litecoin devotees this insanity is going to be magnified as CoinDesk has just reprinted so many people's "press releases" about impending litecoin ASICs and if a single manufacterer delivers it will have meant Litecoin skipped that awkward FPGA adolescence while still staying a fraction of a fraction of bitcoin 404843;1386118384;mircea_popescu;he goes on forum as a week old and is shocked at how mean people are, telling him to do 6 motynhs + of reading before he opens his mouth again 404844;1386118413;mircea_popescu;somewhere in there he failed to account for the fact that having kept his reputation intact for those two years is just about as valuable as having kept his bitcoins for two years. 404845;1386118434;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 830 @ 0.00289 = 2.3987 BTC [+] 404846;1386118443;mircea_popescu;in fact, everyone evaluates their bitcoin exposure in terms of what their bitcoin holdings are. this is about half the story. 404847;1386118448;mircea_popescu;the other half is your wot account. 404848;1386118486;Kleeck_;I agree. 404849;1386118504;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo i dunno that anyone will ever deliver ltc asics. putting all that memory on a chip is not trivial. 404850;1386118556;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 568 @ 0.00289784 = 1.646 BTC [+] {3} 404851;1386118561;mircea_popescu;ironically because of scrypt, fpgas are actually a much better choice for ltc than asics 404852;1386118566;mircea_popescu;unless, of course, you're sony or something. 404853;1386118592;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Well I figure for some unknow n^th announcement one person or group will inevitably be crazy enough to produce the asics 404854;1386118617;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 294 @ 0.0029 = 0.8526 BTC [+] 404855;1386118673;mircea_popescu;if such things were a function of people's crazyness... 404856;1386118678;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 78 @ 0.0029 = 0.2262 BTC [+] 404857;1386118694;mircea_popescu;things like "some chick is crazy enough to produce a pic of a large wooden object stuck in her snatch" is one thing 404858;1386118711;mircea_popescu;"some guy makes an airplane" is altogether different 404859;1386118739;BingoBoingo;For all we know the person bankrolling LTC ASICs could be Curt Schilling and the Engineer could be some kid he picked on in highschool who merely has to fulfill the objective of making any LTC capable scrypt ASIC at all. Not necessarily anything close to a profitable scrypt asic. 404860;1386118772;mircea_popescu;for all we know i'm satoshi, and you're snackman 404861;1386118791;BingoBoingo;Of course. Maybe I'm Usagi? 404862;1386118800;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 392 @ 0.0029 = 1.1368 BTC [+] 404863;1386118804;mircea_popescu;you got too big tits and too much beard to be usagi. 404864;1386118866;cazalla;thought Curt Schilling was bankrupt after his no show mmorpg 404865;1386118870;BingoBoingo;I may have plenty of beard, but I'll be damned if my tits are bigger than a grown man named Oliver's. 404866;1386118878;mircea_popescu;cazalla me too actually. 404867;1386118896;BingoBoingo;cazalla: Bankruptcy is just a fresh start 404868;1386118897;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo well one's enough. 404869;1386118900;snackman;mircea_popescu: i'm snackman 404870;1386118907;benkay;no i'm snackman 404871;1386118936;cazalla;i don't know if any of you played EQ but Curt Schilling was a regular on fohguild forums 404872;1386118969;ManSnack;cazalla: That dork probably plays WoW too. 404873;1386118983;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 47 @ 0.0029 = 0.1363 BTC [+] 404874;1386119193;snackman;mike_c: you scammed me out of 1000 uBTC 404875;1386119195;snackman;what is this shit 404876;1386119200;mike_c;naw, hang on 404877;1386119201;snackman;i'm getting scammed left and right 404878;1386119203;mike_c;1 minute 404879;1386119208;snackman;mkay 404880;1386119215;ThickAsThieves`;is this ltc asic news why it's rallying? 404881;1386119235;ThickAsThieves`;or a diff change? 404882;1386119248;ThickAsThieves`;or just cuz litecoin 404883;1386119289;Vexual;coz cant launder 10000 btc on one chain 404884;1386119294;snackman;mike_c: hilarious, it worked! thanks! 404885;1386119303;mike_c;double the promised sum because i loved your answer 404886;1386119314;snackman;mike_c: which one? 404887;1386119324;mike_c;the "yes, i placed more bets on bitbet" 404888;1386119328;snackman;mike_c: :D 404889;1386119334;snackman;mike_c: but i did! 404890;1386119338;mike_c;i believe you 404891;1386119357;BingoBoingo;.d 404892;1386119358;ozbot;707408283.05150 | Next Diff in 1231 blocks | Estimated Change: 24.8029% in 6d 10h 9m 7s 404893;1386119518;snackman;the first time i actually got some money out of bitbet 404894;1386119521;snackman;hilarious 404895;1386119522;snackman;thanks mike_c 404896;1386119532;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 103 @ 0.0029 = 0.2987 BTC [+] 404897;1386119533;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.1558366 = 1.5584 BTC [-] {4} 404898;1386119616;mike_c;i'm not bitbet, but you're welcome. 404899;1386119654;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 8176 @ 0.00012548 = 1.0259 BTC [+] {5} 404900;1386120070;mircea_popescu;twist : snackman scammed mike_c by falsely claiming to have placed more bitbets 404901;1386120132;BingoBoingo;Also scammed mike_c's betting counterparty 404902;1386120295;Vexual;legals will be disproportinally large on 0.001 404903;1386120325;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.34796684 = 1.0439 BTC [+] {3} 404904;1386120336;mike_c;i sent him 0.002, so it will be worth litigating in a year. 404905;1386120405;Vexual;just have your lawyer do the photocopying at your office 404906;1386121270;dub;dat snackman is a weird one 404907;1386121335;deadweasel;very 404908;1386121423;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4000 @ 0.000125 = 0.5 BTC [-] 404909;1386121529;snackman;dub: why? 404910;1386122186;mike_c;$avg 404911;1386122187;mpexbot;mike_c: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. 404912;1386122338;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00081201 = 4.3037 BTC [-] {2} 404913;1386122433;snackman;$avg 404914;1386122434;mpexbot;snackman: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. 404915;1386122510;mod6;$vwap s.mpoe 404916;1386122512;mpexbot;mod6: S.MPOE 1 day: average: 0.0008105 high: 0.00081642 low: 0.00078278 volume: 134803 btc: 109.25742952 7 day: average: 0.00080006 high: 0.0008476 low: 0.00078278 volume: 1375619 btc: 1100.57443755 30 day: average: 0.00081815 high: 0.00088996 low: 0.0007725 volume: 5988106 btc: 4899.16264344 404917;1386122643;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 42 @ 0.0031412 = 0.1319 BTC [-] 404918;1386122704;assbot;[MPEX] [O] [O.USD.P140T] 450 @ 0.0308001 = 13.86 BTC [-] 404919;1386122704;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1124 @ 0.00012599 = 0.1416 BTC [+] {2} 404920;1386122887;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 35 @ 0.0029 = 0.1015 BTC [+] 404921;1386122888;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1076 @ 0.0001269 = 0.1365 BTC [+] 404922;1386123314;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 3 @ 0.125 = 0.375 BTC [+] 404923;1386123527;dub;snackman: your little routing in #bitcoin 404924;1386123536;dub;routine jesus fuck 404925;1386123539;dub;I need a new job 404926;1386123558;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34099 BTC [-] 404927;1386123619;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34601 BTC [+] 404928;1386123741;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34198 BTC [-] 404929;1386123774;dub; 16TNs3DYjkGZrnEW4KV7ust6sWU3Esk7eW this address just got 0.002 btc 404930;1386123776;dub; it's my address 404931;1386123779;dub; but i don't know from who i got it 404932;1386123781;dub; i never published it 404933;1386123784;dub; it's creepy as f*ck 404934;1386123788;dub;shortly after mike_c's tx hit 404935;1386123794;mike_c;nice 404936;1386123823;Namworld;I sometimes get random dust/BTC 404937;1386123827;Namworld;Not sure why 404938;1386123838;Namworld;at some of my random address 404939;1386123849;dub;true to form the usual tard brigade took the bait, gmax and phantomcircuit 404940;1386123863;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33899 BTC [-] 404941;1386123924;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34400001 BTC [+] 404942;1386123985;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3379999 BTC [-] 404943;1386124351;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7350 @ 0.00080929 = 5.9483 BTC [-] 404944;1386124404;nubbins`;hi 404945;1386125172;KRS|gotyawallet;guess i missed a little drama since i've been gone..heh 404946;1386125412;Duffer1;there's no end to bitcoin drama 404947;1386125510;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3473 @ 0.00012759 = 0.4431 BTC [+] {3} 404948;1386125512;KRS|gotyawallet;aint it great 404949;1386125561;Duffer1;only if it's not you directly involved with it :( :( :( :( 404950;1386125571;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2492 @ 0.00013 = 0.324 BTC [+] 404951;1386125693;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 17910 @ 0.00011607 = 2.0788 BTC [-] {3} 404952;1386126666;mike_c;mpex bot must be a little butthurt from last month :) lot size is 0.1 now but it still quotes for 1000 contracts 404953;1386126791;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 38 @ 0.00289999 = 0.1102 BTC [+] {2} 404954;1386127611;BingoBoingo;;;ident BingoBoingo 404955;1386127611;gribble;Nick 'BingoBoingo', with hostmask 'BingoBoingo!~BingoBoin@unaffiliated/bingoboingo', is identified as user BingoBoingo, with GPG key id 309BB8D7F3251143, key fingerprint ADD7A9A28F85E5EF1F51904F309BB8D7F3251143, and bitcoin address None 404956;1386127690;KRS|gotyawallet;;;ident KRS-1 404957;1386127690;gribble;Error: I am not seeing this user on IRC. If you want information about a registered gpg user, try the 'gpg info' command instead. 404958;1386127698;KRS|gotyawallet;;;ident KRS 404959;1386127698;gribble;Error: I am not seeing this user on IRC. If you want information about a registered gpg user, try the 'gpg info' command instead. 404960;1386127701;KRS|gotyawallet;;;ident KRS- 404961;1386127701;gribble;Error: I am not seeing this user on IRC. If you want information about a registered gpg user, try the 'gpg info' command instead. 404962;1386128011;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.348425 BTC [+] 404963;1386128072;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.348425 BTC [+] 404964;1386128098;BingoBoingo;;;ident KRS|gotyawallet 404965;1386128098;gribble;Nick 'KRS|gotyawallet', with hostmask 'KRS|gotyawallet!~foo@c-50-143-86-143.hsd1.fl.comcast.net', is not identified. 404966;1386128255;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 15 @ 0.348425 = 5.2264 BTC [+] {2} 404967;1386128621;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10445 @ 0.00080922 = 8.4523 BTC [-] {2} 404968;1386128718;BingoBoingo;;;later tell mircea_popescu solar fart dude wants your PR girl to make some sort of decision on her "share" according to this post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=293098.msg3678941#msg3678941 404969;1386128718;gribble;The operation succeeded. 404970;1386129004;asciilifeform;dust TX, if they exist, could be interesting. bit flips from cosmic rays? 404971;1386129019;asciilifeform;as seen here: http://dinaburg.org/bitsquatting.html 404972;1386129024;dub;it happens 404973;1386129066;asciilifeform;phun phact: most public key cryptosystems cough up key bits in this scenario. 404974;1386129118;asciilifeform;consider the trivial case of RSA with lowest bit in 'p' or 'q' (pubkey = PxQ) flipped. 404975;1386129210;dub;wonder if there is any research into encouraging them 404976;1386129211;asciilifeform;suddenly 'p' (or 'q') is composite. 404977;1386129277;KRS|gotyawallet;Ruh roh 404978;1386129278;KRS|gotyawallet;http://english.cri.cn/6909/2013/12/03/2724s801532.htm 404979;1386129392;KRS|gotyawallet;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzW8rvyZmUE&feature=player_embedded 404980;1386129393;ozbot;Do You Know Your Crypto Currencies? - YouTube 404981;1386129421;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Maybe you linked this, but I recall finding a paper on how SPARC chips can leak RSA keys given an attacker feeding the system sertain kinds of voltage fluctuations. 404982;1386129442;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: this is by no means particular to SPARC 404983;1386129472;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: I imagine not. 404984;1386129487;asciilifeform;if the probability of a 'cough' is sufficiently large, any system that can be 'milked' for RSA exchanges is vulnerable. 404985;1386129589;BingoBoingo;Well, the Cardano uses a battery for a reason... 404986;1386129616;asciilifeform;moral: 1) single-tasking machine 2) performing crypto-ops when you want, and not when internet asks 1000x/sec.; 3) battery belongs to you and physically visible 404987;1386129706;asciilifeform;4) change keys sometimes. 404988;1386129785;BingoBoingo;5) if everything else fails https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXOvjf-IrL8 404989;1386129819;asciilifeform;anybody feeling particularly energetic is invited to carry out an experiment: 404990;1386129823;asciilifeform;'dust telescope.' 404991;1386129842;asciilifeform;run blockchain; generate as many random addrs as will fit on disk... 404992;1386129954;asciilifeform;helps if you have a reasonable entropy source, but not essential for this application. 404993;1386129999;asciilifeform;then countdown until fools start pushing 'dust miner bonds', l33t, 11111.... 404994;1386130026;dub;still seems like a rather larger collision space than some well known short domain names 404995;1386130039;asciilifeform;large - but finite. 404996;1386130062;asciilifeform;in fact, bonus points if you use a known turd for an entropy source 404997;1386130069;asciilifeform;that others, generating addrs in the past, may have used... 404998;1386130085;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 70 @ 0.00289999 = 0.203 BTC [+] 404999;1386130136;asciilifeform;wonder if you'll run out of disk or cpu first. 405000;1386130146;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 344 @ 0.0029 = 0.9976 BTC [+] 405001;1386130155;nubbins`;oxygen 405002;1386130162;asciilifeform;will to live? 405003;1386130178;nubbins`;btc 405004;1386130188;dub;strangled by out of control neckbeard 405005;1386130193;nubbins`;everything, probably 405006;1386130196;nubbins`;^ even this 405007;1386130249;dub;bonus points for firing acetone charged magnets at the sun to generate extra gamma particles 405008;1386130289;asciilifeform;there's plenty of gamma to go around. and ECC RAM has gone out of fashion. 405009;1386130326;dub;in my world its always fun to see new players flapping about random ECC error alarms 405010;1386130329;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 69 @ 0.00289999 = 0.2001 BTC [-] 405011;1386130362;dub;the look on their face when they find out you weren't joking when you said 'cosmic rays' 405012;1386130363;asciilifeform;'the miser pays twice.' using cheapo hardware has a cost. eventually people will pay the cost. 405013;1386131488;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.348425 BTC [+] 405014;1386131732;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 210 @ 0.00289999 = 0.609 BTC [-] {2} 405015;1386133196;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00081141 = 8.6821 BTC [+] 405016;1386133562;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 62 @ 0.00315 = 0.1953 BTC [-] 405017;1386133623;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 45 @ 0.002899 = 0.1305 BTC [-] 405018;1386134050;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00081379 = 3.3365 BTC [+] 405019;1386135026;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 155 @ 0.0028999 = 0.4495 BTC [+] 405020;1386135087;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00327958 = 0.164 BTC [+] {6} 405021;1386135880;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 76 @ 0.0029 = 0.2204 BTC [+] 405022;1386137222;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.1501275 = 0.6005 BTC [-] {2} 405023;1386137344;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 198 @ 0.00289999 = 0.5742 BTC [-] {2} 405024;1386137405;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 344 @ 0.0029 = 0.9976 BTC [+] 405025;1386137466;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34883791 BTC [+] 405026;1386137955;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.34883941 = 1.3954 BTC [+] {3} 405027;1386138015;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.34883993 = 0.6977 BTC [+] 405028;1386138217;Namworld;Can anyone remind me why I have to run after people to pay them hundreds or thousands of dollars? or even 10000s for a few people? 405029;1386138380;BingoBoingo;Namworld: Because your worth as a person is only worth the reputation attached to your Public keys? 405030;1386138461;Namworld;I must be really dirty then 405031;1386138625;BingoBoingo;Namworld: Maybe? 405032;1386138686;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00289999 = 0.145 BTC [-] 405033;1386138711;BingoBoingo;It may have been prudent to write a contract before starting these things limiting your responsibility so you aren't pursuing this Sisyphean task until death? 405034;1386138733;Namworld;1KyzwMAYUcUGwF8rs3CZdwgmVcDZ543U7x 405035;1386138744;Namworld;arf, damn it. 405036;1386138769;Namworld;Not the right paste 405037;1386138838;BingoBoingo;If we are just pasting addresses 1LvCuntsJyFFQsLuJhBXBPokbQa7SAyMr4 405038;1386139154;Namworld;Nah, didn't want to paste that. 405039;1386141126;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5000 @ 0.00010121 = 0.5061 BTC [-] 405040;1386141306;benkay;oh hey wouldja lookit that mircea_popescu fixed the footnotes on trilema 405041;1386141385;benkay;oh no jokes my bad there's totally character coding shit still in there and etc 405042;1386141492;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 76 @ 0.00289999 = 0.2204 BTC [-] 405043;1386141493;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MG] 5000 @ 0.000158 = 0.79 BTC [+] 405044;1386142041;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 345 @ 0.0029 = 1.0005 BTC [+] 405045;1386142224;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 344 @ 0.0029 = 0.9976 BTC [+] 405046;1386143871;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.348425 = 2.7874 BTC [-] {2} 405047;1386144847;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1500 @ 0.00048786 = 0.7318 BTC [+] {2} 405048;1386144908;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 250 @ 0.0029 = 0.725 BTC [+] 405049;1386145518;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.0029 = 0.29 BTC [+] 405050;1386145579;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 363 @ 0.00048789 = 0.1771 BTC [+] 405051;1386147348;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 51 @ 0.0029 = 0.1479 BTC [+] 405052;1386147363;KRS|gotyawallet;Namworld: I'll do it for you for 10% of their payment. np. 405053;1386147409;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 170 @ 0.00288 = 0.4896 BTC [-] 405054;1386147414;KRS|gotyawallet;Mark it down as brokerage fee services on their tab. 405055;1386147491;BingoBoingo;KRS|gotyawallet: Ever drink an incredible hulk? 405056;1386147958;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 344 @ 0.0029 = 0.9976 BTC [+] 405057;1386148002;KRS|gotyawallet;no? i think i've heard of it..got Jaegermeister in it? 405058;1386148080;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.34883993 = 0.6977 BTC [+] 405059;1386148202;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00081258 = 2.194 BTC [-] 405060;1386148263;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2450 @ 0.00081379 = 1.9938 BTC [+] 405061;1386148263;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 687 @ 0.0029 = 1.9923 BTC [+] 405062;1386148394;Vexual;my ghetto mining rig now cooks eggs 405063;1386148561;Vexual;any way youy like 405064;1386149831;Vexual;enthalpy and entropy 405065;1386150825;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00081379 = 4.4758 BTC [+] 405066;1386152533;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.34 = 0.68 BTC [-] 405067;1386152655;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 39 @ 0.0029 = 0.1131 BTC [+] 405068;1386153143;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 494 @ 0.00046001 = 0.2272 BTC [-] 405069;1386153616;Vexual;Australia really is a US petri dish 405070;1386153646;Vexual;This article from two hours ago, from our supossedly, yet state funded press... 405071;1386153653;Vexual;http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-12-04/unlikely-alleged-east-timor-spying-illegal-under-australian-law/5134138 405072;1386153654;ozbot;Would spying on East Timor by the Australian Secret Intelligence Service be illegal? - Fact Check - 405073;1386153668;Vexual;the fact check logo is new 405074;1386153774;Vexual;it may be an oversight, but the real story is that this ASIS agent, and his lawyer, preparing to appear in a hauge court where they have been summoned, have been relieved of all their documents by other agents on PNG soil. 405075;1386153807;BingoBoingo;Vexual: Only soil I recognize is GPG soil 405076;1386153839;Vexual;true dat 405077;1386153913;BingoBoingo;If only there were a "Nation of Bitcoin" tattoo 405078;1386153921;Vexual;i think the signals directorate has our press 405079;1386153943;Vexual;lots of antarctica is still up for grabs 405080;1386154180;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3655 @ 0.00081141 = 2.9657 BTC [-] 405081;1386154349;Vexual;stealing 3 billion of gas per annum is just business 405082;1386154561;Vexual;but trying to cover it up to protect the way the info was obtained is an exercise in futility, fact check or no 405083;1386155410;Vexual;you can't force nayone to use gpg, but you can sign your kids up for a jungle war easily enough 405084;1386155422;jurov`;http://jdbif7.blogspot.sk/2013/12/btc-raise-to-us-1800-can-happen-this.html rumor mill is on 405085;1386155423;ozbot;BTC raise to US$ 1800 can happen this week !! - JDBIF - The Bitcoin Investment Fund. 405086;1386155490;Vexual;id take some of that 10000 2014 bet 405087;1386155718;Vexual;but im far more interested in the exchange rate bedoming irrelevant 405088;1386156375;KRS|gotyawallet;Vexual: whats up slut 405089;1386156559;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1597 @ 0.00010121 = 0.1616 BTC [-] {2} 405090;1386156592;mircea_popescu;sooo... some sr contender nobody heard of had ~100k btc in its wallets ? 405091;1386156660;KRS|gotyawallet;wallet? where? 405092;1386156777;mircea_popescu;;;google bitcoin sheep markety 405093;1386156778;gribble;Online black market members hunt down $100 million in bitcoins ...: ; Huge bitcoin heist: Black market drug shop Sheep Marketplace ...: ) -- Changes your GPG registered key to . is a 16 digit key id, with or without the '0x' prefix. We look on servers listed in 'plugins.GPG.keyservers' config. You will be given a random passphrase to clearsign with your key, and submit to the bot with the 'verify' command. You must be authenticated in order to use this command. 405147;1386157975;mircea_popescu;well ya but this presumes you have the old one. 405148;1386157977;KRS|gotyawallet;oh kickass 405149;1386157981;KRS|gotyawallet;=/ 405150;1386157985;pankkake;of course 405151;1386157988;mircea_popescu;a nm then 405152;1386157992;mircea_popescu;i was thinking fo the other case. 405153;1386158006;mircea_popescu;as he had said he lost his. 405154;1386158026;pankkake;yeah… 405155;1386158037;pankkake;didn't save a revocation stuff either? 405156;1386158061;KRS|gotyawallet;i quit and told them they could keep their fucking laptop..think they'll let me get my shit off it? 405157;1386158074;mircea_popescu;ask nicely the chick in hr with the big boobs 405158;1386158093;KRS|gotyawallet;she's more petite and has braces..Mmmm.. 405159;1386158191;mircea_popescu;;;later tell benkay http://trilema.com/2013/the-art-of-making-friends-and-influencing-people-versus-stockholm-syndrome/#comment-96511 405160;1386158191;gribble;The operation succeeded. 405161;1386158234;jamespeerless;micea_popescu: continuing discussion from yesterday.. since you have a new address per user per bet, don't you end up with a ton of addresses with a tiny amount of coin in them? what do you do with them once the bet is over? 405162;1386158300;mircea_popescu;jamespeerless not moreso than the average site taking bitcoin 405163;1386158319;mircea_popescu;if you look at the stats, Confirmed bets: 7123 Confirmed total: 9,728 BTC 405164;1386158325;mircea_popescu;that means the avg bet is > 1btc 405165;1386158331;jamespeerless;good point 405166;1386158334;mircea_popescu;bitpay wishes it could say the same thing 405167;1386158339;jamespeerless;:P 405168;1386158352;mircea_popescu;what are you gonna do, you know ? consolidate them. 405169;1386158404;mircea_popescu;there is some discussion on this topic over at 405170;1386158429;mircea_popescu;;;google bitcoind not ready for prime time 405171;1386158429;mircea_popescu;meh no gribs ? 405172;1386158430;gribble;Western Union Says Bitcoin Not Ready For Primetime – Bitcoin ...: ; Bitcoin's New All-time High: Exploring the Latest Bubble – Bitcoin ...: ; Western Union Says Bitcoin Not Ready For Primetime - Kitco (1 more message) 405173;1386158451;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoind-not-quite-ready-for-prime-time/ 405174;1386158477;Duffer1;has bitcoin already surpassed western union in terms of value transmitted? 405175;1386158491;ozbot;Bitcoind : not quite ready for prime time pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 405176;1386158515;mircea_popescu;Duffer1 it's impossible to accurately calculate the value bitcoin transmits 405177;1386158656;jamespeerless;wow just sad that 405178;1386158664;jamespeerless;sounds pretty crappy 405179;1386158666;jamespeerless;read* 405180;1386158675;mircea_popescu;well... it's a prototype. 405181;1386158681;mircea_popescu;not intended to be put into production. 405182;1386158811;jamespeerless;so because of these limitations sounds like you need to do some manual work to resolve payouts 405183;1386158816;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 344 @ 0.0029 = 0.9976 BTC [+] 405184;1386158970;mircea_popescu;well 1. payouts are done with a lot of human supervision anyway ; 405185;1386158992;mircea_popescu;2. i doubt anyone uses unpatched bitcoin code anymore. 405186;1386159009;mircea_popescu;as best as i can determine everyone is on some trunk from .4 to .6 with a bunch of in house patches 405187;1386159046;mircea_popescu;it's possible that a significant chunk of users (by headcount) are on .7/.8 or w/e 405188;1386159060;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.0029 = 1.45 BTC [+] {2} 405189;1386159066;mircea_popescu;however, wallets made by those versions won't see a significant chunk of actual bitcoins... likely ever. 405190;1386159082;jamespeerless;by the newer versions? why not? 405191;1386159099;mircea_popescu;cause the credibility of the dev team is somewhere between nil and epsilon 405192;1386159110;jamespeerless;heh 405193;1386159121;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 300 @ 0.0029 = 0.87 BTC [+] {2} 405194;1386159123;jamespeerless;so your outlook on the future of bit coin protocol is bleak? 405195;1386159138;mircea_popescu;im not sure what you're asking. 405196;1386159161;mircea_popescu;but anyway, rather than have you shoot in the dark, here's the story : 405197;1386159187;jamespeerless;if you're saying the current dev's contributing to bit coin are no good and its clear bit coin will require more work to be 'production ready' then without some change the future is bleak 405198;1386159188;jamespeerless;is what i meant 405199;1386159190;mircea_popescu;1. bitcoin was released as a prototype. that means something specific, and what it means doesn't include "to be used for any actual purpose". prototypes are there to test. 405200;1386159205;mircea_popescu;2. people started using it anyway, because it was there. this is how things usually work. 405201;1386159228;mircea_popescu;3. once satoshi left the dev team never recovered. it's roughly what the linux dev team would be if linus left. 405202;1386159271;mircea_popescu;basically a collection of people with poor iq and worse skills, hanging on because they perceive this as sexy, and imagine hanging on makes them somehow important. 405203;1386159303;mircea_popescu;4. at the right time (ie 2012) i pointed out to them that their only chance to maintain any semblance of relevance is to fully specify the code. 405204;1386159328;mircea_popescu;this, obviously, is a very hard task. they, aware of their intellectual limitations, eschewed this task. 405205;1386159354;mircea_popescu;5. the situation has evolved in the exact direction i was expecting : absent a specification everyone is using their own in house concoctions. 405206;1386159369;ThickAsThieves;i smell a blog post coming on 405207;1386159375;mircea_popescu;this will aggravate over time, with miners and large merchants all pushing on the code, 405208;1386159386;jamespeerless;how can it work if everyone is using their own in-house modified version yet they all need to communicate together 405209;1386159388;mircea_popescu;and with "the network accepts it" as pretty much the only measure of good or evil. 405210;1386159400;mircea_popescu;well that's just it, the network blindly decides. 405211;1386159422;mircea_popescu;this will be a major resource black hole in the coming years, but it does not threaten the system itself. 405212;1386159429;mircea_popescu;if anything, it makes the system stronger. 405213;1386159441;KRS|gotyawallet;the anatomy of a blog post 405214;1386159445;mircea_popescu;it DOES however threaten any one actor, and ESPECIALLY actors acting on deluded presumptions, 405215;1386159451;mircea_popescu;such as the snackman kid. 405216;1386159486;jamespeerless;doesn't this lend itself to a couple big corps from releasing their own widely adopted forks.. similar to os x and the 5000 flavors of linux? 405217;1386159487;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13545 @ 0.00081026 = 10.975 BTC [-] 405218;1386159493;mircea_popescu;no. 405219;1386159498;mircea_popescu;because, again, bitcoin is about money. 405220;1386159507;mircea_popescu;as long as those big corps don't actually have big btc, they aren't big corps 405221;1386159512;mircea_popescu;they just thing themselves big. 405222;1386159517;ThickAsThieves;how does one "release" a "widely adopted" fork? 405223;1386159521;mircea_popescu;exactly. 405224;1386159529;mircea_popescu;0.8 is a widely adopted fork. 405225;1386159530;mircea_popescu;so ? 405226;1386159538;pankkake;see web browsers and web servers 405227;1386159561;mircea_popescu;i've had people spend 1000s of hours modelling this point, as it's the one most important point in all bitcoin 405228;1386159563;jamespeerless;yeah guess as long as they don't have any way to make money off of it, it won't happen 405229;1386159568;mircea_popescu;i'm not seeing anything particularly worrisome 405230;1386159570;pankkake;or, in p2p, the most popular networks: ed2k and bittorrent 405231;1386159575;pankkake;so many implementations talking to each other 405232;1386159606;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves i suppose i should put this up ion trilema too, even out the chances of teh populous a little. 405233;1386159637;ThickAsThieves;plus you need to have any new predictions in published record :) 405234;1386159657;ThickAsThieves;so i can scowl with happiness at you in the future 405235;1386159658;mircea_popescu;lol this is more like predictions of the past 405236;1386159705;ThickAsThieves;yes, but you can apply your thought to the current state of things, allowing for new more appropriate predictions 405237;1386159747;ThickAsThieves;like the disbandment of the dev team maybe? 405238;1386159765;ThickAsThieves;i suppose theyll claim the title long afte rthey cease work 405239;1386159804;mircea_popescu;why should they be disbanded ? let the kids have fun. 405240;1386159823;mircea_popescu;foundations, conferences, is how discoveries are made in sciences too neh ? 405241;1386159844;ThickAsThieves;well if you count "outreach" maybe 405242;1386159853;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 150 @ 0.0029 = 0.435 BTC [+] 405243;1386160112;ThickAsThieves;;;ticker 405244;1386160112;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1191.00001, Best ask: 1198.0, Bid-ask spread: 6.99999, Last trade: 1191.0, 24 hour volume: 17070.52954069, 24 hour low: 1105.0, 24 hour high: 1209.989, 24 hour vwap: 1157.24439 405245;1386160119;ThickAsThieves;;;nethash 405246;1386160121;gribble;6400549.04237 405247;1386160130;ThickAsThieves;that hasnt moved in like a day or two 405248;1386160135;ThickAsThieves;like, exactly the same number 405249;1386160140;ThickAsThieves;seems broken 405250;1386160151;mircea_popescu;;;ticker --bitstamp 405251;1386160152;gribble;(ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market |all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Mtgox. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure (1 more message) 405252;1386160155;mircea_popescu;meh 405253;1386160158;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.33318358 = 0.6664 BTC [-] 405254;1386160160;mircea_popescu;;;ticker --market bitstamp 405255;1386160161;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1095.66, Best ask: 1097.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.34000, Last trade: 1097.0, 24 hour volume: 10080.51725385, 24 hour low: 1037.5, 24 hour high: 1100.0, 24 hour vwap: 1065.90371392 405256;1386160164;ThickAsThieves;.d 405257;1386160165;ozbot;707408283.05150 | Next Diff in 1153 blocks | Estimated Change: 23.7524% in 6d 2h 27m 16s 405258;1386160172;ThickAsThieves;.b 405259;1386160185;ThickAsThieves;.q 405260;1386160211;ThickAsThieves;;;estimate 405261;1386160219;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.0029 = 0.58 BTC [+] 405262;1386160223;gribble;Next difficulty estimate | None based on data since last change | 894132728.373 based on data for last three days 405263;1386160351;KRS|gotyawallet;anyone know if these guys are legit? https://asic-market.com/product/blue-fury-usb-miners/ 405264;1386160512;ThickAsThieves;if you have to ask 405265;1386160525;KRS|gotyawallet;=/ 405266;1386160528;ThickAsThieves;then you know the answer 405267;1386160530;ThickAsThieves;;) 405268;1386160544;KRS|gotyawallet;haha come on one must question almost everything in bitcoin 405269;1386160550;KRS|gotyawallet;f'n sharks out there 405270;1386160556;KRS|gotyawallet;in here..everywhere. 405271;1386160565;ThickAsThieves;you missed my point 405272;1386160573;ThickAsThieves;i'll rephrase 405273;1386160581;KRS|gotyawallet;oh because there isnt enough to find out out which is making me ask 405274;1386160584;ThickAsThieves;if they have no rep, how could you trust them 405275;1386160590;KRS|gotyawallet;right..gotcha. 405276;1386160601;KRS|gotyawallet;thanks dude 405277;1386161159;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/the-future-in-the-past/ 405278;1386161159;ozbot;The future in the past pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 405279;1386161223;pankkake;that's a lazy one… and you made me pay a few satoshi for it! 405280;1386161235;mircea_popescu;totally. 405281;1386161244;mircea_popescu;if you ain't cheatin' you ain't tryin'. 405282;1386161550;ThickAsThieves;http://finance.yahoo.com/news/bitcoin-alternative-quark-qrk-increases-072503725.html 405283;1386161552;ozbot;Bitcoin Alternative Quark (QRK) Increases In Value 500% In The Last Week - Yahoo Finance 405284;1386161562;ThickAsThieves;so basically altcoins make ponzis legal' 405285;1386161590;ThickAsThieves;we'll have altcoins sponsoring football teams n shit 405286;1386161631;ThickAsThieves;celebrity "endorsements" etc 405287;1386161731;KRS|gotyawallet;HAH 405288;1386161744;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 500 @ 0.00048971 = 0.2449 BTC [+] 405289;1386161763;pankkake;most of that "increase" is already gone 405290;1386161778;pankkake;welcome to the endless pump and dump 405291;1386161821;pankkake;by the way it was on the list: http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/nov/28/bitcoin-alternatives-future-currency-investments 405292;1386161931;pankkake;same for this infinitecoin actually 405293;1386162110;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 177 @ 0.0029 = 0.5133 BTC [+] 405294;1386163304;mircea_popescu;lol yahoo nao pumping altchains ? 405295;1386163313;ThickAsThieves;http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/currency/2013/11/why-regulate-bitcoin.html 405296;1386163313;ozbot;Why Regulate Bitcoin? : The New Yorker 405297;1386163320;ThickAsThieves;"There may, however, be good cause for regulation. There have been several high-profile thefts of bitcoins recently, including a hacker attack last week on a Czech exchange called Bitcash.cz that emptied four thousand digital wallets belonging to customers. Also this month, an eighteen-year-old man in Australia who was running a Bitcoin “bank” announced that more than four thousand 405298;1386163320;ThickAsThieves;bitcoins had been stolen from his Web site, most of them belonging to users. In any industry, one of the strongest arguments in favor of regulation is the need for consumer protection—something bitcoin currently lacks." 405299;1386163339;ThickAsThieves;lol so US regulation will also help the Czech and Aus? 405300;1386163374;mircea_popescu;if one of the strongest arguments in favour of regulation really is the perceived need for consumer protection, 405301;1386163376;pankkake;I wasn't aware regulation prevented stealing 405302;1386163380;mircea_popescu;regulation has very poor chances. 405303;1386163396;ThickAsThieves;regulation can protect the whole internet guys 405304;1386163398;ThickAsThieves;cmon 405305;1386163433;mircea_popescu;adding to the amusement in romanian that verb basically means "to fuck" 405306;1386163462;mircea_popescu;a polite way of saying it, as "he set her straight, sexually speaking" would be in english 405307;1386163498;pankkake;un bon coup de bite 405308;1386163519;ThickAsThieves;i still worry that eventually the only answer will be scary loss of net neutrality 405309;1386163543;ThickAsThieves;but maybe that will spur better internets 405310;1386163550;pankkake;many new censorship laws lately :/ 405311;1386163556;pankkake;and without much protest either 405312;1386163571;pankkake;france wants to censor "tax evasion" next 405313;1386163587;pankkake;before that it was unregistered gambling 405314;1386163621;pankkake;http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/nov/27/ministers-order-isps-block-terrorist-websites 405315;1386163622;ozbot;Ministers will order ISPs to block terrorist and extremist websites | UK news | The Guardian 405316;1386163757;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 125 @ 0.00288 = 0.36 BTC [-] 405317;1386163778;Duffer1;not getting robbed would be nice, but i fail to see how regulation would prevent that in any way 405318;1386163838;Duffer1;first exchange to offer insurance wins 405319;1386163868;pankkake;I believe services could escrow a part of their funds 405320;1386163903;pankkake;(i.e. like delivery bets but more generic) 405321;1386163905;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves amusingly, bitcoin resolves definitively the issue of net neutrality. 405322;1386163920;pankkake;and namecoin! 405323;1386163925;mircea_popescu;whatever anyone could possibly throw at hte problem, bitcoin has billions soon to be trillions of vested interest. 405324;1386163929;mircea_popescu;nobody can fight that and win. 405325;1386163930;Duffer1;not necessarily mp 405326;1386163939;mircea_popescu;i guess we shall see. 405327;1386163968;Duffer1;at least in america the net neutrality issue also involves isp bandwidth limiting and paywalling 405328;1386163991;Duffer1;pay x more to access premium sites like x,y,z 405329;1386164034;mircea_popescu;any isp is free to issue you whatever contract they want, and you don't have to take it. 405330;1386164045;mircea_popescu;as long as there's ppl holding bitcoins, there will be a market to provide them with internet. 405331;1386164078;Duffer1;i don't see that happening in america, major monopolies are protected state to state 405332;1386164087;Duffer1;startups are sued into the ground or bought outright 405333;1386164104;Duffer1;exclusivity contracts are the norm 405334;1386164108;mircea_popescu;well conversely, i don't see the us as much of a point of interest anyway, it's on its last legs as is. 405335;1386164126;Duffer1;i agree, i just hate to see it happening 405336;1386164128;mircea_popescu;i mean a similar argument could be brought that in somalia internet access is difficult, what with all the armed bandits 405337;1386164132;mircea_popescu;nevertheless... 405338;1386164186;mircea_popescu;on the brighter side, from what i hear in the larger cities you can already get point to point internet 405339;1386164191;mircea_popescu;what with all the wireless everywhere 405340;1386164202;pankkake;http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052748704608104575220570113266984 405341;1386164203;ozbot;Telecom Firms Thrive in Somalia - WSJ.com 405342;1386164223;Duffer1;all provided by at&t, comcast, or time warner 405343;1386164226;KRS|gotyawallet;Whats that got to do with Serbia 405344;1386164234;mircea_popescu;the other somalia 405345;1386164238;KRS|gotyawallet;oh right 405346;1386164289;pankkake;amateur (in the good sense) wireless networking is easy in a city. but how do you go further? 405347;1386164305;mircea_popescu;you can get satellite links anywhere. 405348;1386164330;pankkake;so we just need spacex to accept bitcoins! 405349;1386164347;mircea_popescu;the virgin thing already does 405350;1386164350;truffles;why is it america has such good internet connections 405351;1386164355;truffles;europe sucks with this!I! 405352;1386164362;mircea_popescu;for that matter, we'll probably be launching our own satellites before there's any serious challenge to net neutrality. 405353;1386164364;Duffer1;i'll miss my mmos if i'm forced to satellite :( hehe 405354;1386164373;mircea_popescu;truffles are you kidding ? 405355;1386164390;pankkake;most of europe is pretty well served 405356;1386164396;mircea_popescu;actually that's what i'd like to ipo : a telecom satellite launcher corp. 405357;1386164399;mircea_popescu;it can't be THAT hard. 405358;1386164404;Apocalyptic;mircea, I thought you had him on ignore 405359;1386164423;truffles;i feel like its intermittent or something 405360;1386164441;mircea_popescu;Apocalyptic http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-12-2013#402974 405361;1386164611;truffles;http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2464131/Britain-facing-high-risk-blackouts-5-years.html 405362;1386164612;ozbot;Britain facing 'high risk of blackouts over next 5 years' | Mail Online 405363;1386164758;ThickAsThieves; actually that's what i'd like to ipo : a telecom satellite launcher corp. <<< I'm so in 405364;1386164770;Duffer1;no doubt 405365;1386164824;Duffer1;need cable grade ping time or better though 405366;1386164874;ThickAsThieves;just put the internet in the blockchain 405367;1386164881;ThickAsThieves;bitcoin solves everything! 405368;1386164916;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 414 @ 0.0029 = 1.2006 BTC [+] {2} 405369;1386165038;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 597 @ 0.00288 = 1.7194 BTC [-] 405370;1386165068;Apocalyptic;lul 405371;1386165156;ThickAsThieves;If anyone is interest Danny Brewster, Neo, is tweeting from the Cyprus Investor Show, lotsa pics, including the POS unit https://twitter.com/BtcDanny 405372;1386165180;ThickAsThieves;interested* 405373;1386165208;kakobrekla;shiny black fetish bags 405374;1386165211;kakobrekla;GIMMESUM! 405375;1386165221;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34865856 BTC [+] 405376;1386165222;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.153 BTC [+] 405377;1386165466;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34867853 BTC [+] 405378;1386165503;ThickAsThieves;An estimated 70 percent of the nearly 11,000 silent films produced in the US have been lost, according to a landmark study from the Library of Congress. 405379;1386165567;ThickAsThieves;https://twitter.com/BtcDanny/status/407128229208940544/photo/1/large 405380;1386165568;ozbot;Twitter / BtcDanny: I'm famous now http://t.co/8jkmO48yn4 405381;1386165573;ThickAsThieves;hehe 405382;1386165589;truffles;just read that one 405383;1386165595;truffles;he's a brit? 405384;1386165618;ThickAsThieves;originally, yes 405385;1386165639;truffles;hairstyle/face combo is typical 405386;1386165747;truffles;colors and bags look nice 405387;1386165769;ThickAsThieves;it's an interesting choice of brand colors 405388;1386165770;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 12 @ 0.02591675 = 0.311 BTC [-] {2} 405389;1386165775;ThickAsThieves;black and yellow 405390;1386165781;ThickAsThieves;not very common 405391;1386165802;truffles;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UePtoxDhJSw 405392;1386165802;ozbot;Wiz Khalifa - Black And Yellow [Official Music Video] - YouTube 405393;1386165811;ThickAsThieves;i hat ethat song so much 405394;1386165816;truffles;hahaha 405395;1386165876;truffles;never watched vid before 405396;1386165909;ThickAsThieves;i do like a few Wiz songs tho 405397;1386165921;ThickAsThieves;that chorus though 405398;1386165925;ThickAsThieves;so bad 405399;1386165969;truffles;song feels like its 20mins long.. 405400;1386165974;ThickAsThieves;Jay Z & Beyonce have gone vegan 405401;1386165983;truffles;for 22 days 405402;1386165985;truffles;* 405403;1386165991;ThickAsThieves;thats all it takes 405404;1386165995;jcpham;http://i.imgur.com/rnQZJcz.jpg 405405;1386166002;jcpham;faulty pens 405406;1386166040;truffles;lmao 405407;1386166044;truffles;massive cocks 405408;1386166130;ThickAsThieves;the comments on that youtube page kinda show that google's switch to using google+ to clean comments didnt work 405409;1386166132;jcpham;my pens never do that 405410;1386166151;ThickAsThieves;"i don't know wtf this black cunt is singing" 405411;1386166152;truffles;google just keeps making utube worse.. 405412;1386166158;ThickAsThieves;"Alex Robinson you are a nigga lover. and you trying to make me just like you. shame that." 405413;1386166191;truffles;oh i didnt even look at comments this time 405414;1386166207;truffles;i often do, i blame google 405415;1386166259;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3486 BTC [-] 405416;1386166293;truffles;saw at least 3 women in that phot, 1 guy looks arab, 1 black guy hmm 405417;1386166336;truffles;http://t.co/0WzwpkMD5O 405418;1386166337;ozbot;Twitter / BtcDanny: Good turnout http://t.co/0WzwpkMD5O 405419;1386166380;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 81 @ 0.0029 = 0.2349 BTC [+] 405420;1386166625;truffles;it wasnt a black guy nm 405421;1386166740;thestringpuller;truffles has to be french 405422;1386166744;thestringpuller;that's the only place they grow 405423;1386166757;truffles;i just ate the last one 405424;1386166784;thestringpuller;ThickAsThieves hate's Wiz Khalifa too. 405425;1386166799;thestringpuller;ThickAsThieves have you heard the Kanye-Sway interview?!?!? 405426;1386166827;thestringpuller;YOU AIN'T GOT THE ANSWERS ThickAsThieves YOU AIN'T GOT THE ANSWERS!!!! 405427;1386166868;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34 BTC [-] 405428;1386166882;thestringpuller;https://soundcloud.com/halonyc/you-aint-got-the-answers - YES 405429;1386166929;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 46 @ 0.00330215 = 0.1519 BTC [+] {4} 405430;1386166938;pankkake;"Despite many assuming the song is a reference to the colors of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania's NFL team, the Pittsburgh Steelers, the song is actually about Khalifa's black-and-yellow striped car" 405431;1386166965;pankkake;and here I thought that would be an interracial love song 405432;1386166990;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 55 @ 0.00337039 = 0.1854 BTC [+] 405433;1386167024;thestringpuller;i don't think Wiz has the capacity to write a love song, or music at all... 405434;1386167045;thestringpuller;He plagarized Chrono Trigger! 405435;1386167052;pankkake;so skinny 405436;1386167104;thestringpuller;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phWoiyfA8ls#t=23 - it's like "really?" 405437;1386167114;truffles;i was going to say he wasnt wearing enough yellow in song 405438;1386167186;ThickAsThieves;lol at that soundcloud song 405439;1386167270;truffles;omg never been part 2? 405440;1386167275;truffles;there was a part 1 405441;1386167280;truffles;.. 405442;1386167478;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1002 @ 0.00294304 = 2.9489 BTC [+] {5} 405443;1386167676;thestringpuller;;;bc,24hprc 405444;1386167677;gribble;Error: Failed to retrieve data. Try again later. 405445;1386167857;thestringpuller;;;calc (108 - 50) / 108 405446;1386167857;gribble;0.537037037037 405447;1386167875;thestringpuller;oh man whoever wrote those options is over exposed 405448;1386168576;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.343 BTC [+] 405449;1386169003;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3439 BTC [+] 405450;1386169382;nubbins`;morning 405451;1386169439;truffles;good evening 405452;1386169481;davout;afternoon 405453;1386169735;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00081266 = 5.2823 BTC [+] 405454;1386169784;jcpham;http://i.imgur.com/NVaWlme.jpg 405455;1386169797;jcpham;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1s2qym/bitcoin_santa_on_good_morning_america/ 405456;1386170531;jborkl;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=350732.msg3775469#msg3775469 405457;1386170533;ozbot;COINTERRA IS REAL -> NO SCAM!! 405458;1386170627;pankkake;being "real" is having an address and people behind it? 405459;1386170637;pankkake;how about delivering 405460;1386170649;pankkake;who cares if they are aliens from the moon 405461;1386170669;jborkl;well, I was reading how the Ravi is/might be a escort 405462;1386170696;pankkake;:D 405463;1386170712;jborkl;very interesting - I will be back in 20 minutes to tell you if they are at work in suite 303 405464;1386171016;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.34384666 = 1.0315 BTC [-] {3} 405465;1386171064;Diablo-D3;wt? 405466;1386171138;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00294943 = 0.2949 BTC [+] {2} 405467;1386171199;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00294988 = 0.1475 BTC [+] 405468;1386171660;mod6;screen in a screen, ho ho! 405469;1386171727;mod6;now maybe i can lurk on the dl. hehe. 405470;1386171974;pankkake;screen in a screen is the norm for me 405471;1386171992;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 872 @ 0.00294988 = 2.5723 BTC [+] 405472;1386171993;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.02591 = 0.2591 BTC [-] 405473;1386171994;nubbins`;do any of you guys bake bread? 405474;1386172001;nubbins`;trying to troubleshoot a loaf 405475;1386172358;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 333 @ 0.00294999 = 0.9823 BTC [+] 405476;1386172419;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34541456 BTC [+] 405477;1386172450;jborkl;Well, they are there 405478;1386172462;jborkl;in suite 303 405479;1386172507;nubbins`;great 405480;1386172527;davout;nubbins`: yup 405481;1386172644;nubbins`;ah, re: bread? 405482;1386172657;nubbins`;so i'm making sourdough 405483;1386172678;nubbins`;the dough rises in the bowl and again in the pan, but when i place the loaves in the oven, they don't rise any further 405484;1386172683;jborkl;ah, I thought you were having trouble taking a dump 405485;1386172688;nubbins`;HAHA 405486;1386172699;nubbins`;no trouble there ;( 405487;1386172785;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34541456 BTC [+] 405488;1386172907;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 115 @ 0.00294998 = 0.3392 BTC [+] {2} 405489;1386172962;ThickAsThieves;neumann studio monitor system ... heaven 405490;1386173008;ThickAsThieves;breaking them in with Fuckin' Problems - ASAP/Drake/Kdot :) 405491;1386173023;ThickAsThieves;thestringpuller might preciate that 405492;1386173151;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 198 @ 0.00290002 = 0.5742 BTC [-] {2} 405493;1386173213;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3184 @ 0.00081379 = 2.5911 BTC [+] 405494;1386173273;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4830 @ 0.00081614 = 3.942 BTC [+] 405495;1386173393;davout;nubbins`: i'm not sure they're supposed to rise a lot anyway in the oven 405496;1386173420;nubbins`;i mean, i know traditional loaves should 405497;1386173424;nubbins`;just not sure about sourdough 405498;1386173440;davout;nubbins`: hm, i'll confess complete ignorance 405499;1386173448;nubbins`;heh 405500;1386173456;nubbins`;i also don't add any store-bought yeast 405501;1386173462;nubbins`;only sourdough starter 405502;1386173466;davout;nubbins`: you know, we french people, we just bake bread, it's in our blood xD 405503;1386173474;nubbins`;:D 405504;1386173483;davout;i do it with store-bought yeast 405505;1386173485;nubbins`;j'aime le pain! 405506;1386173494;davout;le pain c'est bien 405507;1386173497;nubbins`;yeah, i'm stubborn 405508;1386173512;nubbins`;i birthed this sourdough starter last september 405509;1386173517;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34541456 BTC [+] 405510;1386173520;nubbins`;have been baking with it for over a year now 405511;1386173522;davout;gross mental image 405512;1386173527;nubbins`;HEH 405513;1386173541;nubbins`;shouldn't use "birthed" for yeast colonies 405514;1386173548;nubbins`;i created this sourdough starter last september 405515;1386173572;nubbins`;anyway, the bread is fucking delicious, which is what matters, i guess 405516;1386173583;davout;haha, yeah. you designed it man, you engineered it 405517;1386173607;nubbins`;anyway, gonna go eat a bunch 405518;1386173662;davout;bon appétit 405519;1386173944;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00290002 = 0.58 BTC [-] {2} 405520;1386174066;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4086 @ 0.00081785 = 3.3417 BTC [+] 405521;1386174188;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34878471 BTC [+] 405522;1386175148;stephengandel;Hi. I am a reporter trying to understand bitcoin futures. Anyone willing to help? 405523;1386175220;jurov`;hello stephengandel, you mailed to coinbr support yesterday? 405524;1386175308;ThickAsThieves;Ask questions openly, answers will come 405525;1386175346;Azelphur;stephengandel: best way is to ask in the channel. It's the cultural norm on IRC, and you'll get the best possible answers as others can correct inaccuracies. 405526;1386175654;ThickAsThieves;http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/12/swartz-video/?cid=15264324 405527;1386175654;ozbot;This Is the MIT Surveillance Video That Undid Aaron Swartz | Threat Level | Wired.com 405528;1386175774;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 4 @ 0.05799996 = 0.232 BTC [+] 405529;1386175795;stephengandel;jurov, yes. 405530;1386175828;stephengandel;azelphur, what do you mean by ask the channel? 405531;1386175841;Azelphur;stephengandel: this is the channel, so just ask questions in here 405532;1386175849;Azelphur;they don't need to be aimed at anyone specific 405533;1386175964;ThickAsThieves;there are several competent and experienced people here that may be able to answer different questions best 405534;1386176071;stephengandel;OK. On ICBIT there is a BTC/USC 12.13 contract that has a range of prices all above the current price of a bitcoin to USD. So I am guessing these are the strike prices? I was told that a contract costs $10. But that can't be the same for all the strike prices. I am trying to figure out what it costs to sell futures contract. 405535;1386176123;ThickAsThieves;ah, one thing I can tell you is you will find more ICBIT users in #bitcoin-analysis 405536;1386176150;ThickAsThieves;it is not trusted by some in here 405537;1386176151;stephengandel;OK, Can I find the same info for coinbr? 405538;1386176165;ThickAsThieves;youre in the right room for coinbr 405539;1386176169;ThickAsThieves;jurov runs it 405540;1386176174;jurov`;stephengandel: i'm the owner of coinbr 405541;1386176195;ThickAsThieves;and mircea_popescu runs MPEx, the exchange it brokers with 405542;1386176223;jurov`;All options are priced in bitcoins, and the prices are publisjed on http://mpex.co 405543;1386176247;stephengandel;OK. On MPEx, what does it mean that the price of o.usd.co50T is 0.785 405544;1386176264;stephengandel;sorry, 0.0785? 405545;1386176269;stephengandel;Is that of a bitcoin? 405546;1386176286;jurov`;it's call to buy 0.1btc for $50 405547;1386176302;jurov`;(that means price per 1BTC would be $500) 405548;1386176346;jurov`;and on exercise, you will get (in bitcoins) the difference between intrinsic value and current 24h weighed price 405549;1386176362;jurov`;or nothing, if price is <=500 405550;1386176388;stephengandel;intrinsic value is 500 for this contract. 405551;1386176392;stephengandel;And that' 405552;1386176400;stephengandel;that's if I buy. 405553;1386176408;stephengandel;what if I sell the contract? 405554;1386176430;ThickAsThieves;you can sell it for any price you like 405555;1386176469;ThickAsThieves;if you are trying to write and sell options that's a bit different 405556;1386176507;stephengandel;Yes. Trying to bet on a drop in the price of bitcoins. 405557;1386176523;ThickAsThieves;you might need to talk to Mircea 405558;1386176527;Apocalyptic;then you would buy put contracts 405559;1386176530;Apocalyptic;not calls 405560;1386176534;ThickAsThieves;not sure if jurov facilitates writing via coinbr 405561;1386176543;stephengandel;or sell calls? 405562;1386176546;ThickAsThieves;yes 405563;1386176557;jurov`;https://www.bitcoinforum.com/coinbr-com/call-option-calculation/msg2445/#msg2445 see this, section "Going short" 405564;1386176559;ozbot;Call option calculation - Bitcoin Forum - The Unofficial Bitcoin Forum 405565;1386176649;stephengandel;Is it the same if I go through coinbr as MPEx? 405566;1386176657;ThickAsThieves;I think you would need an MPEx account, and to negotiate margin with mircea_popescu 405567;1386176670;ThickAsThieves;he might even have details in the FAQ 405568;1386176706;jurov`;stephengandel: yes it's the same, unless you get margin form mircea_popescu 405569;1386176714;ThickAsThieves;an MPEx account is 30btc, or 25btc with referral 405570;1386176726;jurov`;but even then, you'll be doing the saem MKOP/SPPLIT requests with loaned funds 405571;1386176734;ThickAsThieves;if you join you should probly connect with jurov for the referral, since he got you here :) 405572;1386176811;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00294 = 0.294 BTC [+] 405573;1386176822;stephengandel;So to do this on coinbr. I would have to open an account for 30 BTC, $30,000? 405574;1386176829;jurov`;No 405575;1386176842;jurov`;30BTC is account directly on MPEx. 405576;1386176843;stephengandel;I don't understand. 405577;1386176856;jurov`;CoinBr offers account for free, only with small monthly fees 405578;1386176874;jurov`;because it's a broker that enables users to use one shared mpex account 405579;1386176882;ThickAsThieves;wouldnt mircea require a direct account for margin users? 405580;1386176937;jurov`;Yes, if you insist on margin, it's probably best to talk to mircea_popescu directly. 405581;1386176956;stephengandel;Can you do this without margin? 405582;1386176958;jcpham;https://www.bitrated.com/ 405583;1386176958;ozbot;Bitrated 405584;1386176976;jcpham;arbitration escrow 405585;1386176978;ThickAsThieves;write options? No 405586;1386176978;jcpham;m-of-n 405587;1386176985;ThickAsThieves;buy options? Yes 405588;1386177003;jurov`;You can write option only when you provide the collateral yourself. 405589;1386177055;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 146 @ 0.00294 = 0.4292 BTC [+] {2} 405590;1386177116;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1379 @ 0.00294999 = 4.068 BTC [+] 405591;1386177296;ThickAsThieves;stephengandel, when will bitcoin crash, do you think? 405592;1386177299;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 331 @ 0.00294999 = 0.9764 BTC [+] 405593;1386177351;jurov`;that's okay, it will crash, burn, whatever 405594;1386177360;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 390 @ 0.00048971 = 0.191 BTC [+] 405595;1386177363;jurov`;there's much deeper misunderstanding at work 405596;1386177375;ThickAsThieves;do i have someone on ignore? 405597;1386177383;jurov`;people like him want to speculate on btc without being exposed at all 405598;1386177389;ThickAsThieves;oh 405599;1386177400;jurov`;and that's the piece that aint gonna work 405600;1386177414;jurov`;because loaning bitcoins is too risky 405601;1386177428;ThickAsThieves;indeed 405602;1386177446;Apocalyptic;jcpham, why are you promotting this ill-conceived service ? 405603;1386177447;stephengandel;No idea. Just trying to find out if it is possible to bet against it. But really don't know. Doing math now. 405604;1386177474;ThickAsThieves;I love that MPEx costs $35k now 405605;1386177489;ThickAsThieves;well if you want to "bet" against it 405606;1386177492;ThickAsThieves;that's much easier 405607;1386177496;ThickAsThieves;www.bitbet.us 405608;1386177502;ThickAsThieves;:) 405609;1386177522;ThickAsThieves;you can join existing bets or make your own 405610;1386177580;ThickAsThieves;www.bitbet.us?ref=1NfXM69erAWPDdNrZ2k2UkuV7HDPc6Ebwk 405611;1386177585;ThickAsThieves;better link 405612;1386177586;ThickAsThieves;:) 405613;1386177586;jcpham;Apocalyptic i'm not sure copying and pasting a link is promotion 405614;1386177604;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 187 @ 0.00294999 = 0.5516 BTC [+] 405615;1386177605;jcpham;it's also run by someone 405616;1386177622;jcpham;rumor is plans to tie into -otc gpg keys 405617;1386177626;ThickAsThieves;just make sure you read the BitBet FAQ fully 405618;1386177738;stephengandel;OK. But if I bought a put on the 0.USD.C050T on coinbr, I would have to put up .44 of a BTC as collateral? 405619;1386177780;ThickAsThieves;no 405620;1386177794;jurov`;They have recently changed the lot to 0.1BTC, so it should be 0.044 405621;1386177818;jurov`;$avg 405622;1386177819;mpexbot;jurov`: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. 405623;1386177841;stephengandel;why no? 405624;1386177848;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 102 @ 0.00294999 = 0.3009 BTC [+] 405625;1386177882;jurov`;;;calc 50/1097.74 405626;1386177882;gribble;0.0455481261501 405627;1386177904;stephengandel;why 50, and not 500? 405628;1386177909;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 125 @ 0.00295 = 0.3688 BTC [+] 405629;1386177917;jurov`;because it's for 0.1btc 405630;1386177922;stephengandel;gotcha 405631;1386177937;ThickAsThieves;well also you dont need collateral to buy puts 405632;1386177956;jurov`;no, buying puts/calls goes normally 405633;1386177958;stephengandel;and the current price of that contract is 0.07919108 BTCs. 405634;1386177974;nubbins`;hm, re: bitrated 405635;1386177975;jurov`;yes, hefty risk preminum 405636;1386177984;stephengandel;what do you mean by that? 405637;1386177996;nubbins`;https://www.bitrated.com/u 405638;1386178003;stephengandel;that was the price to sell a call. Is it the same to buy a put? 405639;1386178007;nubbins`;see how the site modified all the double-dashes into hyphens? 405640;1386178014;ThickAsThieves;no 405641;1386178014;nubbins`;——-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE——- 405642;1386178031;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 875 @ 0.00295 = 2.5813 BTC [+] 405643;1386178056;stephengandel;where can I see the price of a put? Or am I not understanding this correctly. 405644;1386178062;jurov`;for buying or selling you either match the orders published by MPOE 405645;1386178075;jurov`;they are on mpex.co 405646;1386178087;jurov`;puts as O.USD.P*** 405647;1386178087;ThickAsThieves;you can only sell options two ways: If you write them (margin), or if you buy them and resell them 405648;1386178111;jurov`;or you place the buy/sell order at another price and it will also get published at mpex.co 405649;1386178153;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1540 @ 0.00299693 = 4.6153 BTC [+] {3} 405650;1386178156;stephengandel;OK. spread on the p050 contract appears to be huge 405651;1386178185;ThickAsThieves;that's because a bot algo manages constant orders 405652;1386178200;ThickAsThieves;currently the risk is high 405653;1386178211;ThickAsThieves;and thus so is the spread and premium 405654;1386178226;jurov`;yes. all these 1000's are MPOE offers. but anyone can make their own offers. 405655;1386178328;jurov`;!t m ^OIX 405656;1386178328;assbot;[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / 112.71463735 / 112.71463735 (3170 shares, 119.21 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC) 405657;1386178460;Apocalyptic; OK. spread on the p050 contract appears to be huge // market makers make money from spread 405658;1386178710;stephengandel;So for the p080 contract, it would cost me roughly $1.70 to but the contract., with bitcoins at a current 1100. What would I make if bitcoins go down to 1000 or 900? 405659;1386178753;ThickAsThieves;you would lose money 405660;1386178770;stephengandel;But I bought a put? 405661;1386178793;ThickAsThieves;last i checked all the options require extreme price movement to profit 405662;1386178807;ThickAsThieves;10-15% wont even be close 405663;1386178846;stephengandel;Do bitcoins have to go down to 800 for the p080 contract to be worth something, or below 800? 405664;1386178880;ThickAsThieves;they have to offset your premium 405665;1386178924;stephengandel;Is it different if I was selling a call vs. buying a put? 405666;1386178932;ThickAsThieves;Namworld, is your calculator still functional? 405667;1386178946;stephengandel;Seems like selling a call I could make money even if they went down a little bit? 405668;1386178966;stephengandel;But then I would need margin? Correct? 405669;1386178970;ThickAsThieves;yes 405670;1386178974;jurov`;*If* anyne buys it 405671;1386178982;ThickAsThieves;well the bot might 405672;1386178990;ThickAsThieves;but the price would still need to move a decent amount 405673;1386179004;ThickAsThieves;and you'd be shaving small % 405674;1386179022;jurov`;yes, if you sell to bot, you need large price movement 405675;1386179058;stephengandel;And also I have the problem that all of this would be settled in bitcoins, so any money I made on the futures bet against bitcoins would be offset by the fact that I own bitcoins, which would be worth less in dollars. 405676;1386179083;stephengandel;Just trying to figure out the calculation. Anyway you could run me through the transaction? 405677;1386179119;ThickAsThieves;well you'd be buying the bitcoins at a lower price than the current value if you surpass your premium 405678;1386179123;ThickAsThieves;so you could then sell them at a profit 405679;1386179208;stephengandel;what if bought a p110, which is essentially where the price is now right? It would cost me $6.19 a contract. Is that right? 405680;1386179278;jurov`;;;calc 0.04537758*1079 405681;1386179279;gribble;48.96240882 405682;1386179284;stephengandel;So if the price of a bitcoin went down to 1000 when the contract settled, I would make $10 minus the cost of the contract, or $3.80 405683;1386179294;jurov`;^ it's $49 405684;1386179297;ThickAsThieves;juriv is showing you that you have your cost wrong 405685;1386179354;stephengandel;but that's the price to sell. I am buying a put. 405686;1386179391;stephengandel;So I have to pay the selling price to buy a put? 405687;1386179394;ThickAsThieves;there are puts for sale with their own prices 405688;1386179399;ThickAsThieves;of course 405689;1386179402;jurov`;SELL QTY means mpex is selling to you 405690;1386179404;mike_c;ThickAsThieves: you don't need margin to write/sell options on mpex. you just put up btc as collateral. 405691;1386179444;jurov`;hence, price 0.0453775 applies 405692;1386179444;ThickAsThieves;I see 405693;1386179495;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 735 @ 0.00299944 = 2.2046 BTC [+] {3} 405694;1386179503;stephengandel;OK so it would cost me $49, and if a bitcoin drops to 1000, then I lose $39. For me to start making bitcoins have to drop to $610. Is that right? 405695;1386179515;ThickAsThieves;sounds right 405696;1386179516;jurov`;yes 405697;1386179536;stephengandel;And then I have the problem that I have to convert that back to dollars, and in doing that I will have lost money on my bitcoins because they will have dropped in value. 405698;1386179578;jurov`;no you will get the $49 back in bitcoins at current rate 405699;1386179595;jurov`;so you'll be even 405700;1386179601;stephengandel;Not at the rate on the day the contract settles? 405701;1386179622;jurov`;they are american, so you can exercise them anytime 405702;1386179629;stephengandel;even in bitcoins, but not in dollars? 405703;1386179636;jurov`;and current rate at exercise time applies 405704;1386179669;jurov`;what do you mean? 405705;1386179678;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 84 @ 0.003 = 0.252 BTC [+] {4} 405706;1386179680;mike_c;no, even in dollars, that's the point. It's a hedge against bitcoin dropping 405707;1386179720;ThickAsThieves;hence Buying the Put 405708;1386179724;ThickAsThieves;rather than selling it 405709;1386179760;mike_c;thestringpuller:oh man whoever wrote those options is over exposed << not if they aren't speculating. if it is a miner hedging, then they aren't over-exposed. 405710;1386180001;stephengandel;from the beginning, I buy my 0.1 bitcoin to open the account, which currently costs $110. Then I buy the put for $49, or 0.04537758 of a bitcoin, and then I have 0.05468842 left in my account. Let say the price of a bit coin drops to $500, and I exercise the option. I will get 0.12 bit coins when I exersize. 405711;1386180044;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 286 @ 0.0031181 = 0.8918 BTC [+] {2} 405712;1386180073;ThickAsThieves;gogogo NEOBEE! 405713;1386180075;stephengandel;add that to what I had left in my account, and I will have a total of 0.17468842 BTCs. 405714;1386180114;jurov`;;;calc (110-50)/50 405715;1386180114;gribble;1.2 405716;1386180138;ThickAsThieves;;;ticker 405717;1386180139;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1201.00001, Best ask: 1207.0, Bid-ask spread: 5.99999, Last trade: 1200.75001, 24 hour volume: 15003.00562735, 24 hour low: 1131.72718, 24 hour high: 1219.94333, 24 hour vwap: 1172.45435 405718;1386180144;jurov`;yes, $60 will be 0.12 btc then 405719;1386180148;stephengandel;Now when I convert that back to dollars at the now btc rate of $1/500 BTCs, I would get $87. Meaning I still lost money! 405720;1386180166;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.33150768 = 3.6466 BTC [-] {5} 405721;1386180167;pankkake;can't you buy neobees for 0.003 direct from lmb holdings? 405722;1386180194;nubbins`;hey, wow 405723;1386180204;nubbins`;that's the firt time neobee has been > ipo for a while, i think? 405724;1386180209;nubbins`;*first 405725;1386180224;pankkake;yeah. because IPO was never finished before that 405726;1386180238;stephengandel;jurov, is that right? 405727;1386180244;stephengandel;Something I am missing? 405728;1386180248;ThickAsThieves;pankkake, yes, but the investor site is not fully functional it seems 405729;1386180259;ThickAsThieves;so some shares are locked but not purchased 405730;1386180267;pankkake;I wonder if this is a "must have shares now" or not knowing 405731;1386180288;ThickAsThieves;i dont even know how many are actually sold now :/ 405732;1386180297;ThickAsThieves;waiting for access 405733;1386180303;jurov`;stephengandel: you buy the option for $49 and exercise them to get $60 back 405734;1386180328;jurov`;don't mix the bticoin you are holding long into there 405735;1386180330;stephengandel;I know but I will get it back in bitcoins, not dollars, correct? 405736;1386180348;ThickAsThieves;why does that matter 405737;1386180354;ThickAsThieves;sell them 405738;1386180355;jurov`;you will bet B0.12 *500 = $60 405739;1386180358;jurov`;*get 405740;1386180394;ThickAsThieves;obv you need to be doing higher volume than one option to make money anyway, so exchange fees wont be an issue 405741;1386180410;stephengandel;what are the exchange fees? 405742;1386180423;ThickAsThieves;check your exchange 405743;1386180430;stephengandel;on coinbr? 405744;1386180437;ThickAsThieves;coinbr is not an exchange 405745;1386180445;jurov`;coinbr does not touch fiat 405746;1386180447;stephengandel;ok on mpeX 405747;1386180450;ThickAsThieves;them either 405748;1386180451;mike_c;Buy 0.1 BTC for $110. Buy two P110T for 0.09 BTC. price drops to 500. Excercise for .24 btc. total btc is now 0.25 btc worth $125. go party with $15 gain. 405749;1386180452;jurov`;mpex either 405750;1386180465;ThickAsThieves;you want coinbase or campbx or mtgox or bitstamp 405751;1386180466;ThickAsThieves;etc 405752;1386180468;jurov`;you neex fiat-to-bitcoin exchange, like mtgox 405753;1386180476;ThickAsThieves;etc 405754;1386180509;stephengandel;yes, that's my point. since all of this will be done in bitcoins, when I exchange back, won't I lose money, but maybe I have this wrong? 405755;1386180516;Namworld;Is it me or is the breakeven on calls in the 15000+ USD/BTC? 405756;1386180524;mike_c;see my example. 405757;1386180531;mike_c;you make $15 405758;1386180548;ThickAsThieves;do it 100 times and you make $1500 :) 405759;1386180559;ThickAsThieves;less exchange fees 405760;1386180573;ThickAsThieves;typically in the 1% range 405761;1386180582;stephengandel;OK. 405762;1386180586;jurov`;yes. in your example you will get *$60 worth of bitcoins* 405763;1386180593;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 45 @ 0.00322253 = 0.145 BTC [+] {3} 405764;1386180620;ThickAsThieves;gotta say though, be careful shorting bitcoin... 405765;1386180623;jurov`;such small amount is best to sell to colleague or so 405766;1386180664;jurov`;and buying too, jusr meet some bitcoin anthusiast and buy by cash 405767;1386180674;jurov`;*enthusiast.. kbd fail 405768;1386180678;mike_c;agree with ThickAsThieves. while we had this conversation it went up another 1% :) 405769;1386180699;thestringpuller;hey jurov` you get the pm? 405770;1386180715;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 230 @ 0.00323999 = 0.7452 BTC [+] {2} 405771;1386180733;jurov`;thestringpuller: a bit of patience, maybe> 405772;1386180736;jurov`;? 405773;1386180752;thestringpuller;no the link i sent last night 405774;1386180755;thestringpuller;nm pm 405775;1386180923;stephengandel;But mike 405776;1386180942;iamnot_;whatever happened to XBOND? I dont see it on Havelock anymore... 405777;1386180951;pankkake;iamnot_: recalled :( 405778;1386180952;mike_c;scam! 405779;1386180958;mike_c;(j/k) 405780;1386180966;stephengandel;mike_c, if I just do one contract. I lose money, right? Because I was sitting with bitcoins, or because of the leverage? Maybe both? 405781;1386180989;mike_c;right, if you are shorting you want to only buy as many bitcoins as it takes to buy the number of options you want 405782;1386181000;mike_c;otherwise you are exposed with the leftover btc 405783;1386181020;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 47 @ 0.00323999 = 0.1523 BTC [+] {2} 405784;1386181031;iamnot_;pankkake: recalled sounds bad. does that mean TAT bought back everyones bonds? 405785;1386181034;jurov`;so, fund the account just to buy 3 options. problem solved 405786;1386181073;jurov`;you will invest 3*$49 equivalent, you will get back (if $500) 3*$60 equivalent 405787;1386181082;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.33000024 = 1.98 BTC [-] {3} 405788;1386181084;pankkake;iamnot_: yes. but it's not bad, anyone buying it at ip(v)o benifited heavily from divs + early 105% recall 405789;1386181089;stephengandel;And if I buy two contracts and instead the price goes up by 54% or to $1694, then I lose what? 405790;1386181102;stephengandel;Just what it cost me to buy the puts or more? 405791;1386181113;jurov`;everything. the option becomes worthless. 405792;1386181113;mike_c;your options expire worthless, so you just lose what you paid. 405793;1386181130;iamnot_;pankkake: hmm i see. yes, i miss daily dividends. hopefully something else will come along. 405794;1386181142;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33 BTC [-] 405795;1386181153;stephengandel;I guess that's the advantage of buying a put rather than selling a call. Because if I sold a call I could lose an unlimited amount. 405796;1386181168;jurov`;no, you will at most lose the collateral 405797;1386181168;mike_c;right, selling has higher risk profile. 405798;1386181172;pankkake;I hope so; I have not invested elsewhere really 405799;1386181188;jurov`;if you wrote the option 405800;1386181190;stephengandel;But again, to sell a call I would have to open a MPEx account? 405801;1386181208;stephengandel;is wrote an option the same as selling a call? 405802;1386181222;jurov`;stephengandel: no, coinbr allows you to write options under the same conditions as mpex 405803;1386181228;mike_c;jurov`: is that true? i would expect that if the loss was higher than collateral the difference would come out of your mpex account. 405804;1386181235;jurov`;only thing we won't do, is to provide margin 405805;1386181247;jurov`;you understand the difference between collateral and margin? 405806;1386181264;stephengandel;Not really. How much collateral would I have to put up? 405807;1386181280;stephengandel;strike / spot BTCUSD + some MPEx-proprietary padding 405808;1386181288;jurov`;yes 405809;1386181310;jurov`;if the exercise requires more, that's up for MPEx to pay 405810;1386181330;ThickAsThieves; pankkake: hmm i see. yes, i miss daily dividends. hopefully something else will come along. <<<< Don't hold your breath, no one serious and not scammy enjoys providing daily divs 405811;1386181332;jurov`;but that would also mean bitcoin falling catastctphically 405812;1386181345;jurov`;so it isn't hard for mpex to buy more of them 405813;1386181350;stephengandel;is this what you guys use for the spot price: http://preev.com/ 405814;1386181357;ThickAsThieves;no 405815;1386181360;jurov`;http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/currencies/ due to the situation with weex, i stopped issueing dividends on the loan for now. I am setting up a seperate claim/management system where users will either a. begin to get daily divs again, or b. be able to get all missed divs with payoff 405905;1386182214;nubbins`;weex 4 prez 405906;1386182215;ThickAsThieves;i assume back divs are paid in either case 405907;1386182241;thestringpuller;So Ukyo isn't defaulting.... 405908;1386182246;ThickAsThieves;oh, they are locked in Weex 405909;1386182275;ThickAsThieves;the repayment rate is unknown though 405910;1386182281;thestringpuller;lololol 405911;1386182309;ThickAsThieves;wasnt meant to be a joke 405912;1386182314;ThickAsThieves;just a factor 405913;1386182353;thestringpuller;http://i.imgur.com/STdRfL5.png 405914;1386182388;mike_c;^ hah! awesome 405915;1386182390;ThickAsThieves;hehe 405916;1386182433;pankkake;you should be ashamed to have that first link in purple though 405917;1386182471;ThickAsThieves;I get one of these per month: "I have been studying your website and funds but I don't see information on how to invest in those funds. Is there information posted that tells how to invest in the funds?" 405918;1386182478;ThickAsThieves;uhh 405919;1386182483;ThickAsThieves;so you were viewing Havelock 405920;1386182488;ThickAsThieves;and couldnt figure out what to do? 405921;1386182545;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 3 @ 0.05699979 = 0.171 BTC [-] 405922;1386182606;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 2 @ 0.05699979 = 0.114 BTC [-] 405923;1386182607;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 597 @ 0.00302999 = 1.8089 BTC [-] {3} 405924;1386182637;thestringpuller;lemme guess from the forums? 405925;1386182667;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 4 @ 0.05699979 = 0.228 BTC [-] {3} 405926;1386182733;nubbins`;STEVIE 405927;1386182762;ThickAsThieves;no thats email 405928;1386182778;mod6;;;bc,stats 405929;1386182781;gribble;Current Blocks: 273064 | Current Difficulty: 7.074082830514966E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 274175 | Next Difficulty In: 1111 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 3 hours, 18 minutes, and 53 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 873500484.877 | Estimated Percent Change: 23.47897 405930;1386182896;nubbins`;we printed some nice garment tags on some linen the other day 405931;1386182958;nubbins`;http://imgur.com/pYS9z0W 405932;1386182958;ozbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 405933;1386183004;pankkake;that looks like an inverted black cock? 405934;1386183009;thestringpuller;nubbins`: that's my name don't wear it out :P 405935;1386183021;pankkake;dumb me, it's named black hen 405936;1386183038;nubbins`;;) 405937;1386183041;nubbins`;to both of you 405938;1386183045;ThickAsThieves;neat, have you ever worked with dye-sublimation? 405939;1386183058;nubbins`;nope, not set up for that atm 405940;1386183060;ThickAsThieves;I used to run and maintain ESTAT machines 405941;1386183068;ThickAsThieves;then moved to Mimaki 405942;1386183072;ThickAsThieves;and solvent too 405943;1386183097;nubbins`;we don't have the ventilation for solvent inks 8) 405944;1386183104;nubbins`;some day 405945;1386183147;ThickAsThieves;i still prefer screen-printed stuff anyway 405946;1386183152;nubbins`;nod 405947;1386183156;ThickAsThieves;it's the teen punk in me 405948;1386183158;nubbins`;you can get additives for printing on polyester 405949;1386183166;nubbins`;so the ink doesn't migrate 405950;1386183192;thestringpuller;ThickAsThieves: grinds every rail ever 405951;1386183205;ThickAsThieves;i never skated 405952;1386183209;nubbins`;nah 405953;1386183210;ThickAsThieves;i was too cool for that shit 405954;1386183214;nubbins`;bet you were pretty good at tony hawk, tho 405955;1386183216;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00302 = 0.151 BTC [-] 405956;1386183224;ThickAsThieves;nope, mario kart 405957;1386183231;jamespeerless;anyone know how my bet weight works if I bet multiple times on same bet? 405958;1386183234;nubbins`;heh, i've been playing lots of mario kart wii lately 405959;1386183246;nubbins`;couple weeks ago my wife and i ate a bunch of acid and played it for hours 405960;1386183248;ThickAsThieves;i was too busy rocking out to skate anyway 405961;1386183252;nubbins`;really intense 405962;1386183274;pankkake;jamespeerless: it will have a new, lower weight 405963;1386183277;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 331 @ 0.00302 = 0.9996 BTC [-] 405964;1386183281;kakobrekla;jamespeerless new bets will appear seperatley 405965;1386183289;kakobrekla;payout is merged 405966;1386183297;kakobrekla;in a single tx 405967;1386183305;nubbins`;ThickAsThieves: ever listened to Metz? you might like em 405968;1386183313;jamespeerless;so they're basically independent? and then it just adds the payouts together 405969;1386183348;ThickAsThieves;i havent nubbins, will check em out 405970;1386183350;kakobrekla;they are independed bets yes , but if you win you will get 1 tx only 405971;1386183359;jamespeerless;k 405972;1386183361;kakobrekla;to account for all of them 405973;1386183381;nubbins`;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krGDNbT4CSE 405974;1386183382;ozbot;METZ - Wet Blanket [OFFICIAL VIDEO] - YouTube 405975;1386183460;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 134 @ 0.0030225 = 0.405 BTC [+] {2} 405976;1386183514;KRS|gotyawallet;Wow..this is sobering http://www.offgridminds.com/misinformation-blog/2013/12/1/bitcoin-rise-to-the-dead-end.html 405977;1386183673;jurov`;;;market sell 1000 405978;1386183673;gribble;A market order to sell 1000 bitcoins right now would net 1200802.9202 USD and would take the last price down to 1200.0200 USD, resulting in an average price of 1200.8029 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0629 seconds 405979;1386183689;pankkake;isn't it named misinformation-blog? 405980;1386183698;jurov`;KRS|gotyawallet: ^ here is the answer 405981;1386183714;jurov`;and it won't be much different at $10k 405982;1386183716;nubbins`;he seems to be operating under the assumption that exchanges aren't a place where buyers and sellers meet 405983;1386183724;chaang-noi;ch0000 ch0000! 405984;1386183763;nubbins`;i mean, in order to convert x btc into $50m, other users have to put that $50m into the exchange 405985;1386183773;jurov`;;;market sell 10000 405986;1386183773;KRS|gotyawallet;idk 405987;1386183773;gribble;A market order to sell 10000 bitcoins right now would net 10975877.1390 USD and would take the last price down to 960.6000 USD, resulting in an average price of 1097.5877 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 98.6026 seconds 405988;1386183775;nubbins`;because if they don't, the seller doesn't have any buyers 405989;1386183779;nubbins`;or am i missing something 405990;1386183790;KRS|gotyawallet;i think 405991;1386183807;KRS|gotyawallet;thats the main point of the article, nubbins..as i read it 405992;1386183811;nubbins`;this guy seems to think that each time you buy 1 btc, it's the exchange that had them and is selling to you 405993;1386183837;KRS|gotyawallet;more like ;;market sell 140000 405994;1386183843;ThickAsThieves;that seems to have trouble forming coherent sentences and concepts 405995;1386183845;KRS|gotyawallet;;;market sell 140000 405996;1386183846;gribble;A market order to sell 140000 bitcoins right now would net 36115590.7219 USD and would take the last price down to 8.9066 USD, resulting in an average price of 257.9685 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 171.1354 seconds 405997;1386183849;nubbins`;"Where would the exchanges ... get 10 million dollars?" 405998;1386183853;ThickAsThieves;guy* 405999;1386183853;KRS|gotyawallet;ooofuh 406000;1386183854;nubbins`;from the people buying the btc 406001;1386183858;nubbins`;what a fuckin dummy 406002;1386183893;nubbins`;haha, first comment. 406003;1386183893;pankkake;he must think bitcoins are "backed" by things 406004;1386183923;ThickAsThieves;I thought he was gonna make a decent point, 406005;1386183937;pankkake;gold bug? not that there's anything wrong with that 406006;1386183945;ThickAsThieves;that in the regulated world such providers must have a lot of their own capital 406007;1386183948;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 126 @ 0.0030225 = 0.3808 BTC [+] 406008;1386183958;ThickAsThieves;this would help with losses caused by the exhcnage 406009;1386183962;ThickAsThieves;errors, hacks, etc 406010;1386184037;nubbins`;luckily, here in btc-land, exchanges don't need to cover shit, because fuck it 406011;1386184084;pankkake;history of bitcoin tells us you can lose up to 90% of your bitcoins a year and still be a winner! 406012;1386184103;nubbins`;it's true, i lost my shirt twice and i'm still laughing 406013;1386184113;pankkake;you just printed it again 406014;1386184116;nubbins`;^ 406015;1386184125;KRS|gotyawallet;point #1, big chunks of btc are moving around after being dormant since apr 2013 (our last all time high), point #2 one of these "chunks" of btc could market-sell 140,000 btc down to $8. 406016;1386184147;pankkake;yeah, but for how long? 406017;1386184152;nubbins`;okay, but why would you chase the price all the way down to $8? 406018;1386184163;nubbins`;rather than cashing out slowly to maximize profit 406019;1386184169;KRS|gotyawallet;right 406020;1386184175;nubbins`;i mean, i know we're all irrational actors 406021;1386184179;nubbins`;but there are limits to the insanity 406022;1386184184;KRS|gotyawallet;or give up your position alltogether? 406023;1386184194;KRS|gotyawallet;if YOU have the btc, OTHERS dont 406024;1386184196;benkay;;;market sell 140000 406025;1386184197;gribble;A market order to sell 140000 bitcoins right now would net 36138416.0754 USD and would take the last price down to 8.9066 USD, resulting in an average price of 258.1315 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 187.7440 seconds 406026;1386184209;pankkake;that's only on mtgox too 406027;1386184223;pankkake;but I'm sure many people would come to get those bitcoins 406028;1386184239;KRS|gotyawallet;the article questions..why are these big chunks moving at all? maybe because people are realizing they are there and to shuffle them around a bit? idk 406029;1386184245;nubbins`;when you win the lotto, you can get a lump sum payment of much lesser value, or you can get yearly/monthly payments that total a greater amount 406030;1386184261;nubbins`;this is similar to a whale cashing out btc 406031;1386184267;nubbins`;he can take all at once 406032;1386184272;nubbins`;and get much less 406033;1386184278;nubbins`;or he can spread it over months/years 406034;1386184281;nubbins`;and get much more 406035;1386184284;KRS|gotyawallet;I think so too..the most positive article I read is how countries like china and countries in africa will be hoarding them because they are a perfect financial vessle for financial freedom 406036;1386184303;nubbins`;heh, thought you said "countries like africa" for a moment 406037;1386184322;KRS|gotyawallet;haha a lot of people do 406038;1386184349;benkay;;;ticker 406039;1386184350;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1216.0, Best ask: 1222.0, Bid-ask spread: 6.00000, Last trade: 1215.99001, 24 hour volume: 15013.43553127, 24 hour low: 1131.72718, 24 hour high: 1225.0, 24 hour vwap: 1177.82055 406040;1386184497;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 260 @ 0.00293127 = 0.7621 BTC [-] {2} 406041;1386184558;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 430 @ 0.00293005 = 1.2599 BTC [-] {3} 406042;1386184619;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 172 @ 0.00292658 = 0.5034 BTC [-] {2} 406043;1386184640;Vexual;nubbins, try a hotter oven re:sourdough 406044;1386184762;KRS|gotyawallet;This was the most positive article about bitcoin I think I ever read, and it just came out 406045;1386184762;KRS|gotyawallet;http://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2013/12/03/what-is-beijings-rationale-for-promoting-bitcoin/ 406046;1386184763;ozbot;What Is Beijing's Rationale For Promoting Bitcoin? - Forbes 406047;1386184802;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2466 @ 0.00291761 = 7.1948 BTC [-] {6} 406048;1386184847;ThickAsThieves;"China’s economy is too slanted" 406049;1386184862;Vexual;thats racist 406050;1386184865;ThickAsThieves;hehe 406051;1386184874;ThickAsThieves;he's Chinese, it's ok 406052;1386184916;KRS|gotyawallet;HAHA 406053;1386184934;pankkake;> referring to countries by their capital 406054;1386184951;Namworld;America is a country apparently. Black people are African-american. Then Africa must be a country too! 406055;1386184959;Namworld;re nubbins/KRS 406056;1386184961;Vexual;what about "China does tech, it's what they do." 406057;1386185168;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 249 @ 0.00300909 = 0.7493 BTC [+] {2} 406058;1386185169;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 25 @ 0.34634842 = 8.6587 BTC [+] {11} 406059;1386185178;KRS|gotyawallet;right, but they need financial freedom and btc gives them that 406060;1386185205;KRS|gotyawallet;Namworld I didnt think of that. I should tell my black friend he too must be a country..hmm. 406061;1386185222;nubbins`;Vexual: it's already at 450, :( 406062;1386185230;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 118 @ 0.003 = 0.354 BTC [-] 406063;1386185244;nubbins`;Namworld: America isn't a country 406064;1386185250;nubbins`;you must mean the united states of america 406065;1386185251;Namworld;I know... 406066;1386185251;KRS|gotyawallet;What about Somalia 406067;1386185257;kakobrekla;i hear dat. 406068;1386185276;nubbins`;anyway, i think "african-american" is a silly phrase 406069;1386185288;nubbins`;nobody says "african-canadian" here 406070;1386185311;jurov`;stfu, you have french-canadians 406071;1386185314;KRS|gotyawallet;America needed something to divert attention from the word Nigger which worked fine for me..Worked fine for them so why not. 406072;1386185324;Vexual;nubbins, perhaps less fisting b4 the first rise? 406073;1386185325;nubbins`;jurov`: they speak french! 406074;1386185340;jurov`;oui? 406075;1386185343;nubbins`;Vexual: i was worried about not kneading enough 406076;1386185358;Vexual;you can push it past that peak eleasticity 406077;1386185358;nubbins`;french-canadians = french-speaking canadians 406078;1386185370;nubbins`;you can be goddamn sure that they're not identifying with the country of france 406079;1386185392;jurov`;but it's a term 406080;1386185417;nubbins`;i knead for about 10 minutes, bowl and cover, punch down and form loaves after 4-6 hours, proof in the pans for another 4-6 hours, then bake 406081;1386185419;jurov`;i'm not implying that afroamericans speak african 406082;1386185428;nubbins`;sure 406083;1386185433;nubbins`;it's just a silly term 406084;1386185436;jurov`;maybe you don't kned hard/long anough? 406085;1386185437;Vexual;got a doughmixer? 406086;1386185442;nubbins`;no mixer 406087;1386185447;nubbins`;all hand work 406088;1386185451;jurov`;it needs to start resisting 406089;1386185481;nubbins`;see, it rises fine, just not in the oven 406090;1386185497;Vexual;try a batch of smaller laves with different kneads to troubleshoot 406091;1386185505;nubbins`;hmm, yeah 406092;1386185526;nubbins`;i tried adding a bit more water this time, no difference 406093;1386185534;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 106 @ 0.0030091 = 0.319 BTC [+] {2} 406094;1386185535;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.34878314 = 1.0463 BTC [+] {2} 406095;1386185537;nubbins`;although the crumb *is* a bit nicer 406096;1386185576;nubbins`;jurov`: maybe it's just me, but i think it's a bit silly to call yourself african-anything if you were born in north america 406097;1386185580;nubbins`;like 406098;1386185582;Vexual;you could cheat and chuck some more yeast in 406099;1386185588;nubbins`;i'm not irish-canadian or british-canadian 406100;1386185601;nubbins`;i was born here 406101;1386185604;nubbins`;i'm just canadian 406102;1386185606;jurov`;nope, you're eurocanadian 406103;1386185612;jurov`;:DDDD 406104;1386185616;nubbins`;european-canadian 406105;1386185616;Vexual;trasheh? 406106;1386185622;KRS|gotyawallet;Cheers, we are all millionaires http://www.businessinsider.com/hugh-hendry-bitcoin-could-hit-1-million-2013-12 406107;1386185630;nubbins`;Vexual: i can't bring myself to add store yeast 406108;1386185630;KRS|gotyawallet;meh 406109;1386185645;nubbins`;the flavor is just too good as it is 406110;1386185646;jurov`;what about bitbetting the meeeelion? 406111;1386185653;jurov`;would you? 406112;1386185659;nubbins`;srsly, today's loaves are SO GODDAMN SOUR 406113;1386185665;KRS|gotyawallet;We should all meet in Prague for food and feast..Prague has the women and leet secks too. 406114;1386185667;nubbins`;i just had a tuna sandwich 406115;1386185670;nubbins`;and i was in ecstasy 406116;1386185717;nubbins`;honestly, i'm more than a bit surprised that i haven't managed to kill my starter yet 406117;1386185771;Vexual;The party is going after corruption among Chinese officials. Even though the party needs to clean up, it needs to give its own members an exit plan, as too much prosecution would make the people think that the party is completely corrupt. 406118;1386185783;Vexual;Not chinese, just very stoned 406119;1386185803;jurov`;The reason Hendry doesn't own Bitcoin is because it's not available on a regular exchange, the report said. 406120;1386185807;jurov`;roflol 406121;1386185840;nubbins`;"showing everyone that the party is completely corrupt would make people think the party is completely corrupt" 406122;1386185852;nubbins`;i can see why the party wouldn't want that 406123;1386185853;nubbins`;lel 406124;1386185961;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 25 @ 0.15017479 = 3.7544 BTC [-] {6} 406125;1386186022;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.34878472 = 0.6976 BTC [+] 406126;1386186144;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 4 @ 0.02592 = 0.1037 BTC [+] 406127;1386186158;stephengandel;Hi. Had to leave for a bit. Do the prices on mpex go down a lot? 406128;1386186217;stephengandel;jurov, you still here? 406129;1386186221;Vexual;basement; ladies underwear 406130;1386186221;ThickAsThieves;if you are referring to options, they premium has been generally very high since last Summer 406131;1386186252;stephengandel;Sorry, not go down as in price, but not available, as in right now? 406132;1386186255;ThickAsThieves;of course the rise from 150 to 1200 cerrtainly presented opportunity to profit 406133;1386186259;Vexual;https://js.gg/bitcoin-becoming-a-standard-part-of-lawsuit-discovery-requests/ 406134;1386186259;ThickAsThieves;ah 406135;1386186260;ozbot;Bitcoin becoming a standard part of lawsuit discovery requests | Jeff Steinport 406136;1386186265;ThickAsThieves;yes it does 406137;1386186326;stephengandel;And the collateral I would have to post to sell a $500 call would be .45 of a bitcoin? 406138;1386186337;ThickAsThieves;Vexual, bitcoin will be great for divorces 406139;1386186337;ThickAsThieves;hehe 406140;1386186350;stephengandel;strike / spot BTCUSD + some MPEx-proprietary padding. 406141;1386186370;stephengandel;or $495 406142;1386186378;ThickAsThieves;i dont know that one, i assume the collateral is the full value 406143;1386186380;ThickAsThieves;.1 406144;1386186404;ThickAsThieves;but you need to ask someone else for sure 406145;1386186424;asciilifeform;simple test of your security arrangements. if your PC were to fall into enemy hands, would he know how much BTC you have? (or where.) 406146;1386186429;jurov`;stephengandel: the info on the forum is obsolete, as the lot changed from 1BTC into 0.1BTC 406147;1386186435;asciilifeform;if the answer is yes, consider it to already belong to the enemy. 406148;1386186442;jurov`;so just divide the collateral by 10 406149;1386186487;asciilifeform;why do you suppose the 'legit' exchanges want your government id? precisely to simplify confiscation. 406150;1386186504;asciilifeform;'aha, you bought 100btc. where is it now? we have this here soldering iron, and you have an arse...' 406151;1386186510;stephengandel;OK. So only 0.045 of a bitcoing. And it says the last price on a call for 050 is 0.05232243. So that's what someone would pay me if I could write a call? 406152;1386186542;Vexual;TAT, there might be a market for some satoshi dust for petty jilted lovers 406153;1386186554;jurov`;oh and people, i'm still searching a decent writer to put the stuff together.. there really isn't anyone who can make the time for some btc? 406154;1386186611;jurov`;stephengandel: if you actually sell that for 0.05m, you'll be damned lucky 406155;1386186619;Vexual;tehcneciel riting? i canod et 406156;1386186646;stephengandel;OK. but the collateral piece is right. Only 0.045. That seems doable. 406157;1386186648;jurov`;it needs not be technical.. just that poor fortune redactor can inderstand it 406158;1386186752;stephengandel;You're trying to pay freelance writers in bitcoins. Is that what you are saying? 406159;1386186771;stephengandel;If I took that contract I would have to hedge, right? 406160;1386186786;stephengandel;How do I do that? Just kidding. 406161;1386186796;jurov`;hedge what? 406162;1386186800;Vexual;tounge in cheek? eds and sics? 406163;1386186875;nubbins`;asciilifeform: the real rub is that the soldering iron can create new arses 406164;1386186876;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.003 = 0.15 BTC [-] 406165;1386186897;nubbins`;the obvious defence is to say you lost it all on asicminer shares. 406166;1386186920;stephengandel;I could open a bitcoin account on coinbr for 0.1 and then if I could get someone to take it write a call option. Right? Sounds like 0.1 is enough collateral. 406167;1386186998;jurov`;yes, should be (also depending on which option you want) 406168;1386187103;stephengandel;Do you have any idea how much I would make if I sold a call and bitcoins went to $500. I don't know how to do that math. 406169;1386187136;nubbins`;at the risk of being cheeky, you might wish to learn the math before you start moving money around :) 406170;1386187155;nubbins`;although i guess that's one of the reasons why you're here, hey? 406171;1386187174;stephengandel;Yes. Call option pricing more than just regular math 406172;1386187184;ThickAsThieves;to add to the cheekiness, are suuuuure you wanna bet on BTC falling that much? 406173;1386187190;nubbins`;heh 406174;1386187196;ThickAsThieves;and then who's gonna buy your call? 406175;1386187202;nubbins`;i don't bet anymore, or even invest 406176;1386187203;nubbins`;i just hold 406177;1386187212;stephengandel;But was able to figure out put price so half way there. 406178;1386187233;stephengandel;Is that the same with the put, or do you think I would find someone that would sell me a put with 1100 strike price 406179;1386187248;nubbins`;#bitcoin-assets: cheekier than an ass calendar 406180;1386187254;KRS|gotyawallet;heh 406181;1386187276;stephengandel;If I wanted to buy that contract. I think so, right seems like I would be paying a lot for it 406182;1386187385;jurov`;stephengandel: what about if i sell you P110Ts at 0.0033 per? 406183;1386187402;jurov`;you can buy 3 of them for 0.1 406184;1386187426;jurov`;and once on coinbr account, you'll be free to odo with them as you please 406185;1386187452;ThickAsThieves;nice 406186;1386187494;jurov`;*er.. fix: 0.033 406187;1386187898;stephengandel;so you are saying I could get a better price than the 0.045 we were talking about before? 406188;1386187918;jurov`;yes. instead of the bot, i will write the options and sell to you 406189;1386187918;stephengandel;So the prices on mpex aren't real? 406190;1386187940;jurov`;there's a bot a marketmaker, and her prices are real 406191;1386187950;jurov`;but anyone can offer other price 406192;1386187960;jurov`;also real 406193;1386187973;stephengandel;And I could get a better price from you? 406194;1386187974;kakobrekla;is this real life? 406195;1386187989;stephengandel;What's the price if I wanted to sell the 050 call? 406196;1386187998;stephengandel;I guess what would you pay me? 406197;1386188024;stephengandel;Still don't understand how to figure out what that would be worth if the price of a bitcoin drops 406198;1386188027;ThickAsThieves;kakobrekla, no this is IRC 406199;1386188066;ThickAsThieves;just take the value you want it to settle at 406200;1386188072;ThickAsThieves;and subract your premium 406201;1386188160;jurov`;current intrinsic value of C050 is about $650 = B0.565 406202;1386188184;jurov`;oh sry that would be for 10 of them 406203;1386188194;jurov`;one is B0.0565 406204;1386188236;jurov`;mhm...i'd pay 0.06. i'm not so sure it will go up so much. 406205;1386188297;pankkake;IRC is real life to me. the world outside is useless and boring 406206;1386188320;pankkake;"and then who's gonna buy your call?" ghostbusters? 406207;1386188362;jurov`;no i'll exercise it 406208;1386188686;Vexual;megabyte blocks everywhere 406209;1386188723;pankkake;scammers mixing coins! 406210;1386188743;jurov`;mircea_popescu mia or just lurking and having fun? 406211;1386189011;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 126 @ 0.00282733 = 0.3562 BTC [-] {7} 406212;1386190109;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 95 @ 0.00260466 = 0.2474 BTC [-] {5} 406213;1386190231;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1098 @ 0.00011989 = 0.1316 BTC [+] {2} 406214;1386190902;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 14 @ 0.02590714 = 0.3627 BTC [-] {5} 406215;1386191207;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 11 @ 0.02580909 = 0.2839 BTC [-] {2} 406216;1386191268;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 24 @ 0.02289291 = 0.5494 BTC [-] {6} 406217;1386191456;Namworld;wanted to buy that contract. I think so, right seems like I would be paying a lot for it 406218;1386191456;Namworld;[15:03] stephengandel: what about if i sell you P110Ts at 0.0033 per? 406219;1386191456;Namworld;[15:03] you can buy 3 of them for 0.1 406220;1386191456;Namworld;[15:03] and once on coinbr account, you'll be free to odo with them as you please 406221;1386191456;Namworld;[15:04] nice 406222;1386191457;Namworld;[15:04] *er.. fix: 0.033 406223;1386191466;Namworld;what? 406224;1386191474;stephengandel;hey, jurov, the fee for buying a put is 1%. Is that for buying and sell? 406225;1386191480;Namworld;Arg, stupid mIRC 406226;1386191520;stephengandel;Meaning I would pay 1% of my 0.1 when I buy and 1% of what it is worth when I exercize the contract if I do. 406227;1386191524;Namworld;this not be right at all. Why did it put that in the clipboard 406228;1386191544;stephengandel;Or is it just the 1% when I buy the put 406229;1386191611;Namworld;darn 406230;1386191630;TomServo;Namworld: I assume you're aware highlighting copies to clipboard? 406231;1386191635;Namworld;Yes 406232;1386191645;Namworld;I don't think I ever highlighted that part 406233;1386191653;ThickAsThieves;lies 406234;1386191660;Namworld;Obviously 406235;1386191687;Namworld;Human errors > computer errors by quite a large margin. 406236;1386191727;Namworld;Sometimes I miscopy something and paste an old clipboard item instead. mIRC sends all lines at once when pasting... 406237;1386191738;Namworld;I've just changed my settings so it ask before sending multiple lines 406238;1386191746;Namworld;That way I should be able to review 406239;1386191940;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.101 BTC [-] 406240;1386192244;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 49 @ 0.002681 = 0.1314 BTC [+] 406241;1386192732;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 208 @ 0.002681 = 0.5576 BTC [+] 406242;1386192793;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 51 @ 0.00289985 = 0.1479 BTC [+] {4} 406243;1386192854;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 444 @ 0.00299728 = 1.3308 BTC [+] {2} 406244;1386192915;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.0029975 = 0.1499 BTC [+] 406245;1386192976;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 131 @ 0.0029975 = 0.3927 BTC [+] 406246;1386193171;thestringpuller;mm 406247;1386193281;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 83 @ 0.0029975 = 0.2488 BTC [+] 406248;1386193778;jurov`; hey, jurov, the fee for buying a put is 1%. Is that for buying and sell? 406249;1386193793;jurov`;^^ from where you got this? 406250;1386193813;jurov`;CoinBr has 0.5% both for buying and selling 406251;1386194135;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00299 = 0.1495 BTC [-] 406252;1386194261;stephengandel;hi, does anyone remember if we were talking before about buying puts contracts with a strike price of 65 or 80. Thanks. 406253;1386194302;stephengandel;i lost the feed from earlier 406254;1386194318;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.349499 BTC [+] 406255;1386194362;stephengandel;no wait. I remember it was 1100. never mind. Thanks. 406256;1386194366;nubbins`;stephengandel: just search via log.bitcoin-assets.com 406257;1386194379;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 45 @ 0.0033 = 0.1485 BTC [+] 406258;1386194380;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] [PAID] 27.55189305 BTC to 13`849 shares, 198945 satoshi per share 406259;1386194393;stephengandel;how do I do that? 406260;1386194400;stephengandel;the search? 406261;1386194407;nubbins`;yeah, it's a website, just ctrl-f :) 406262;1386194428;nubbins`;or command-f, even 406263;1386194443;dub;no dont command-f 406264;1386194453;dub;thats for lames 406265;1386194519;nubbins`;mildly annoying, X11 apps require control-f whereas native quartz applications use command-f 406266;1386194623;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] [PAID] 6.28636680 BTC to 332`612 shares, 1890 satoshi per share 406267;1386195416;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 80 @ 0.0029975 = 0.2398 BTC [+] 406268;1386195600;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 762 @ 0.00300351 = 2.2887 BTC [+] {7} 406269;1386195678;Namworld;http://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2013/dec/04/nigerian-rescued-sunken-boat-trapped-atlantic-video 406270;1386195707;ThickAsThieves;holy crap 406271;1386195759;Namworld;3 days in an air pocket in a sunken boat at the bottom of the atlantic... must feel lonely 406272;1386196093;Duffer1;o.0 406273;1386196164;arbon;Lonely? I'm thinking more like terrified 406274;1386196234;ThickAsThieves;http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/4/5175488/researchers-find-400000-year-old-human-dna-spain-oldest-found 406275;1386196235;ozbot;Oldest ever human DNA found in Spain, raises new questions about evolution | The Verge 406276;1386196331;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 25 @ 0.1518 = 3.795 BTC [+] 406277;1386196369;Apocalyptic;these nigerians are resilient 406278;1386196378;ThickAsThieves;wow ebay fees are absurd 406279;1386196380;truffles;haha 406280;1386196394;ThickAsThieves;i havent sold there in forever 406281;1386196397;truffles;so u r interested in evoluation TAT 406282;1386196399;ThickAsThieves;they take like 10% 406283;1386196409;ThickAsThieves;i evolve every day 406284;1386196433;Apocalyptic;lulz 406285;1386196453;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 3 @ 0.05699969 = 0.171 BTC [+] 406286;1386196457;pankkake;yes, they've been slowly increasing fees over the years 406287;1386196478;Namworld;Like government increase taxes? 406288;1386196503;pankkake;well, they aren't preventing anyone to use competitors yet! 406289;1386196514;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34899997 BTC [-] 406290;1386196525;ThickAsThieves;so what do people use instead? 406291;1386196528;ThickAsThieves;craigslist? 406292;1386196554;pankkake;I still use ebay… it has the most stuff 406293;1386196571;ThickAsThieves;meh 406294;1386196577;ThickAsThieves;fukn robbery 406295;1386196594;pankkake;and the most buyers too 406296;1386196604;pankkake;craigslist doesn't have a reputation system right? 406297;1386196610;deadweasel;nope 406298;1386196613;ThickAsThieves;well i'm a seller in this case 406299;1386196621;pankkake;I guess it's ok if you sell it face-to-face 406300;1386196626;ThickAsThieves;yeah 406301;1386196633;deadweasel;ThickAsThieves: what are you slinging now? 406302;1386196640;ThickAsThieves;nunya 406303;1386196650;deadweasel;i'll take 3 406304;1386196654;deadweasel;does it mine? 406305;1386196659;deadweasel;;) 406306;1386196683;ThickAsThieves;heh i thought i invented nunya just now 406307;1386196687;ThickAsThieves;apparently not 406308;1386196697;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 150 @ 0.00301699 = 0.4525 BTC [+] {2} 406309;1386196698;ThickAsThieves;;;ud nunya 406310;1386196699;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=nunya | 2. nunya. A response to a rude question where someone is asking for personal information they are not ... Nunya is part of a burn to follow such a rude inquiry. 406311;1386196700;ozbot;Urban Dictionary: nunya 406312;1386196721;pankkake;I can sell you an abacus. It mines. 406313;1386196865;ThickAsThieves;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=357022.msg3827014#msg3827014 pankkake, SMG is making a Second Life? 406314;1386196867;ozbot;New stock on Havelock: 7C (Games on the 7th continent) 406315;1386196890;pankkake;I don't know, it's a MMORPG? 406316;1386196891;ThickAsThieves;i thought it was an mmorpg? 406317;1386196909;pankkake;with bitcoin economy in it? well, it seems similar enough to me 406318;1386196928;ThickAsThieves;now that you frame it that way i guess it is the same 406319;1386196931;ThickAsThieves;but better 406320;1386196941;ThickAsThieves;cuz you can slay monsters 406321;1386196950;ThickAsThieves;etc 406322;1386196954;pankkake;oh, right. second life is just boring 406323;1386196962;ThickAsThieves;yep 406324;1386197000;pankkake;actually, people who are into second life are really weird… not that there is anything wrong with that, but certainly not the WoW people 406325;1386197019;ThickAsThieves;they are mor elike Sims players 406326;1386197027;ThickAsThieves;which also painfully boring 406327;1386197035;ThickAsThieves;is 406328;1386197079;pankkake;sims is manipulating people, second life is being someone else 406329;1386197087;pankkake;(usually a transexual furry slave) 406330;1386197168;truffles;ha 406331;1386197182;truffles;what do u play? 406332;1386197185;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 777 @ 0.003017 = 2.3442 BTC [+] 406333;1386197218;pankkake;I tried SL a few years ago, played a girl with big boobs, got naked in public, and then got bored 406334;1386197245;pankkake;but I don't really like MMORPGs either 406335;1386197246;truffles;"got bored" playing a woman hmmm 406336;1386197313;dub;its pretty boring 406337;1386197330;dub;you can grind out real money from 'playing' sl though 406338;1386197332;truffles;never played 406339;1386197393;pankkake;yeah, kill something for <30min, that's my idea of a video game :D 406340;1386197395;Namworld;"Playing" doesn't pay. Design skins and objects for the game, sell them. 406341;1386197415;dub;you can get payed for just being in an area 406342;1386197424;ThickAsThieves;probly something Eulora will also be better at 406343;1386197429;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.15 BTC [-] 406344;1386197438;Namworld;I don't work for 0.1 cent an hour. 406345;1386197439;dub;since area populatrity is self fulfulling, if you have people in your area other people will come and check it out 406346;1386197440;pankkake;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Second_Life#Monetary_policy hahaha 406347;1386197441;ozbot;Economy of Second Life - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 406348;1386197464;Namworld;Then sell the SLL on virwox for BTC! 406349;1386197513;dub;so people pay other people to be in their areas, but yeah bored housewives grinding out pennies for kink is probably 90% of hte userbase 406350;1386197572;dub;I went and checked out their in-world presence, you can buy btc inside the game too 406351;1386197592;pankkake;I thought they banned exchanges or something 406352;1386197618;Namworld;You can? Weird 406353;1386197618;dub;this was a couple of years ago I guess 406354;1386197648;dub;theres some good trolling lulz to be had in SL 406355;1386197927;jurov`;stephengandel: i'm going off, email to coinbr support when you make up your mind, or have questions 406356;1386197978;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 40 @ 0.0030173 = 0.1207 BTC [+] 406357;1386198224;ThickAsThieves;"Okene was strapped into diving equipment, then led to a diving bell which took him to the surface, where he spent two days in a decompression chamber. " 406358;1386198234;ThickAsThieves;guy had to confined 2 more days! 406359;1386198237;ThickAsThieves;be 406360;1386198242;deadweasel;best two days of his life 406361;1386198260;deadweasel;anticipation of life 406362;1386198304;truffles;or death 406363;1386198403;Apocalyptic;http://www.businessinsider.com/hugh-hendry-bitcoin-could-hit-1-million-2013-12 406364;1386198404;ozbot;Hugh Hendry Bitcoin Could Hit 1 Million - Business Insider 406365;1386198432;pankkake;"If I could own Bitcoin, I would" what 406366;1386198448;pankkake;I'll sell you one for $10000 Hugh, don't worry 406367;1386198453;deadweasel;that means he does. 406368;1386198462;pankkake;clever! 406369;1386198466;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.0030173 = 1.5087 BTC [+] 406370;1386198467;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.34899998 = 1.047 BTC [+] 406371;1386198483;Apocalyptic;"The reason Hendry doesn't own Bitcoin is because it's not available on a regular exchange 406372;1386198483;Apocalyptic;", rofl 406373;1386198504;deadweasel;a lot of effort into that excuse. 406374;1386198541;deadweasel;this Riddick 3 hdcam is awesome. 406375;1386198562;deadweasel;total formula flick, but good 406376;1386198624;kakobrekla;http://lamborghininewportbeach.blogspot.com/2013/12/we-just-sold-our-very-first-vehicle.html 406377;1386198625;ozbot;Lamborghini Newport Beach Blog: We just sold our very first vehicle with Bitcoin as legal tender 406378;1386198641;pankkake;as legal tender? 406379;1386198655;kakobrekla;dunno 406380;1386198657;kakobrekla;havent read it 406381;1386198748;ThickAsThieves;it's Bugpowder! 406382;1386198781;dub;https://twitter.com/Wu_Tang_Finance/status/408370614315925504 406383;1386198781;ozbot;Twitter / Wu_Tang_Finance: I WAS A TERROR SINCE THE BUSINESS ... 406384;1386198790;kakobrekla;i bet it went for less than my Golf 406385;1386198812;pankkake;makes no sense to buy a car with bitcoin, just take a fiat loan 406386;1386198825;pankkake;fiat, hehe! 406387;1386198834;kakobrekla;dont buy Fiat! 406388;1386198837;ThickAsThieves;buy a Fiat with bitcoin 406389;1386198845;dub;dont buy vw either, jesus 406390;1386198871;pankkake;buy a silver fiat panda 406391;1386198875;kakobrekla;well, twas only 500 btc ya know 406392;1386198919;pankkake;at least it wasn't a pizza… 406393;1386198975;Apocalyptic;still a pretty expensive golf 406394;1386198986;ThickAsThieves;1 pizza costs 20 Teslas 406395;1386198988;ThickAsThieves;wacky world 406396;1386198997;kakobrekla;yes one of the worst deals i have done :) 406397;1386199015;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3489 BTC [-] 406398;1386199056;dub;doesnt matter how much you pay, ending up owning a golf is bad deal 406399;1386199073;kakobrekla;lol ok w/e 406400;1386199106;dub;purchase price $1, yearly maintenance bill $1000000 406401;1386199114;kakobrekla;not here 406402;1386199126;kakobrekla;here is one of the cheapest cars to run 406403;1386199131;kakobrekla;and it breaks down very little 406404;1386199155;kakobrekla;and you can go to bosnia and back and still come back with a car in 1 piece :) 406405;1386199194;dub;facts be damned by golf was a peice of shit 406406;1386199220;kakobrekla;why the hate, did golf kill your family and rape your butt? 406407;1386199239;dub;vr6 rice racer model, runs hotter than the sun, every fucking part needed importing 406408;1386199274;kakobrekla;i think you must be stuck in some alternate reality 406409;1386199286;dub;burns oil faster than petrol 406410;1386199299;Apocalyptic;hate oil burners.. 406411;1386199312;kakobrekla;lol 406412;1386199318;dub;I am stuck very fucking far from yurup which didn thelp 406413;1386199339;kakobrekla;doenst make them a shit car if you are in fuckin usa 406414;1386199354;dub;yes it DOES 406415;1386199357;kakobrekla;just makes you in a bad position :) 406416;1386199357;dub;FU 406417;1386199378;kakobrekla;dub got all pissy 406418;1386199381;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.0030173 = 0.1509 BTC [+] 406419;1386199384;kakobrekla;do not ever again metion golf 406420;1386199389;pankkake;it's funny how there are almost no american cars in yurop 406421;1386199393;kakobrekla;words of wisdom 406422;1386199423;kakobrekla;pankkake cause they are retarded 406423;1386199509;truffles;when did it become a yurop thing.. 406424;1386199543;pankkake;I doubt asians buy any either yeah 406425;1386199558;pankkake;but everyone buys their cars 406426;1386199808;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2975 @ 0.00301829 = 8.9794 BTC [+] {3} 406427;1386199869;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1000 @ 0.000451 = 0.451 BTC [-] 406428;1386199965;pankkake;so, all current black markets are closing/closed now. we'll see if bitcoin is about drugs 406429;1386199988;dub;because they they make the best cars 406430;1386199991;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1140 @ 0.0030184 = 3.441 BTC [+] {3} 406431;1386200235;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 350 @ 0.0030184 = 1.0564 BTC [+] 406432;1386200276;truffles;pankkake was there a major crack down? 406433;1386200299;pankkake;no, BMR shuts down because "they have no competition" 406434;1386200319;truffles;isnt that a good thing 406435;1386200329;pankkake;too much users to handle 406436;1386200342;pankkake;(and owner is probably rich enough to retire) 406437;1386200349;truffles;i c 406438;1386200363;pankkake;http://www.deepdotweb.com/2013/12/01/bmr-is-shutting-down/ 406439;1386200364;ozbot;BMR Is Shutting Down | Deep Dot Web 406440;1386200376;truffles;where r all the addicts gonna turn now 406441;1386200386;pankkake;BMR was guns, too 406442;1386200583;Apocalyptic; no, BMR shuts down because "they have no competition" // first time i hear that justification for shutting down 406443;1386200613;pankkake;"This puts BMR in the edge of the blade, Tor can’t support any site to be too big" 406444;1386200662;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00301 = 0.602 BTC [-] 406445;1386200906;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00301 = 0.301 BTC [-] 406446;1386200967;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.14110003 = 0.2822 BTC [-] 406447;1386201029;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 11 @ 0.02499727 = 0.275 BTC [+] {3} 406448;1386201384;dub;its the gox doctrine 406449;1386201396;dub;'we suck because we're so popular' 406450;1386201460;Apocalyptic;true 406451;1386201777;dub;was looking for this earlier, probably the greatest moment in second life http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RedLyae4b2s 406452;1386201850;truffles;"inappropriate for some users" 406453;1386201907;dub;cocks everywhere 406454;1386201909;kakobrekla;i dont see how some random dicks running around is funny 406455;1386201928;truffles;predators find it funny 406456;1386201942;kakobrekla;i mean, its nothing new. 406457;1386201945;kakobrekla;dicks. 406458;1386201949;dub;this was like the first live-to-reality interview with the richest secondlifer 406459;1386201962;dub;I guess it needs context 406460;1386201977;kakobrekla;who is the richest secondlifer 406461;1386201978;dub;but then I guess you should have lurked moar amirite? 406462;1386201980;truffles;ya cuz im not signed in 406463;1386201983;dub;anshe chung 406464;1386201993;kakobrekla;that girl? 406465;1386202000;dub;if you don't know about everything that ever happened on the internet its not my fault 406466;1386202029;dub;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anshe_Chung 406467;1386202029;ozbot;Anshe Chung - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 406468;1386202065;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 50 @ 0.00225002 = 0.1125 BTC [-] 406469;1386202089;kakobrekla;"Chung currently owns thousands of servers' worth of land, " 406470;1386202092;kakobrekla;lol ok 406471;1386202136;pankkake;it's really a girl? 406472;1386202144;kakobrekla;this second life land, which the creators can print to infinity? 406473;1386202144;truffles;impressive 406474;1386202149;kakobrekla;like dollars n stuff 406475;1386202169;dub;no, they have to buy it off linden labs amd pay rent 406476;1386202187;dub;but yeah, LL can add as much 'land' as they like to a point 406477;1386202188;kakobrekla;ok but linden makes this out of shits and gigles 406478;1386202220;kakobrekla;great investment 406479;1386202237;dub;well she made bank 406480;1386202281;truffles;"With her first Linden dollars she was able to sponsor a boy named Geo from the Philippines through a German church organization."-- pretty cool imo 406481;1386202309;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 262 @ 0.0029016 = 0.7602 BTC [-] 406482;1386202322;kakobrekla;that should read 'she sponsored german church with a young boy from philippines' 406483;1386202327;dub;creating stuff like buildings, vehicles, furniture, genitalia in game takes actual work, she used sweatshops to produce shit and sold it/rented property 406484;1386202328;kakobrekla;i wonder what they paid her. 406485;1386202797;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 88 @ 0.0029016 = 0.2553 BTC [-] 406486;1386202980;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.15 BTC [+] 406487;1386202981;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 790 @ 0.00081324 = 0.6425 BTC [-] 406488;1386203098;truffles;SL is not for lazi ppl 406489;1386203102;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MG] 1500 @ 0.000158 = 0.237 BTC [+] 406490;1386203186;kakobrekla;;;xau 406491;1386203187;gribble;Error: "xau" is not a valid command. 406492;1386203192;kakobrekla;what is 406493;1386203203;kakobrekla;;;bc,xau 406494;1386203204;gribble;1 XAU = 1239.700000000000 USD = 1.00461913294 BTC 406495;1386203386;dub;heh 406496;1386203399;dub; Look you are blinded by BitCoin as is Peter Schiff by Gold and Greenspan by the Dollar. I am saying Trading LiteCoin has Advantage a) and Advantage b). I did my due dilligence and I know 406497;1386203403;dub;what i found out. There is nothing on earth that is going to convice me otherwise, especially not 406498;1386203406;dub;you. 406499;1386203424;dub;... 406500;1386203426;dub; dub, and gox by some fat american bastard 406501;1386203436;dub;nice due dilligence thar 406502;1386203515;kakobrekla;so ltc is better than btc cause france is in merrica? 406503;1386203536;dub;yea 406504;1386203571;kakobrekla;i should defo get sum 406505;1386203602;Apocalyptic;is just Karpeles french or ne0futur too ? 406506;1386203651;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 261 @ 0.0029999 = 0.783 BTC [+] 406507;1386203702;truffles;dub uve gotten me to watch this sad display of SL omg 406508;1386203712;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.1493333 = 0.448 BTC [+] {3} 406509;1386203713;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.34879999 = 1.0464 BTC [-] 406510;1386203729;dub;I didn't think ne0futur worked there, he just hangs of tux' dick 406511;1386203737;dub;off* 406512;1386203749;Apocalyptic;dub, i've been told he's gox #2 406513;1386203761;truffles;"dancing with myself" and this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRj3HNx8_wA 406514;1386203773;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.14999996 = 0.3 BTC [+] {2} 406515;1386203774;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 80 @ 0.00327769 = 0.2622 BTC [+] {2} 406516;1386203775;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 812 @ 0.000451 = 0.3662 BTC [-] 406517;1386203777;dub;Apocalyptic: must be a recent thing 406518;1386203816;Namworld;What happened to the new satoshidice? 406519;1386203895;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.14999997 BTC [+] 406520;1386203956;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6645 @ 0.00080683 = 5.3614 BTC [-] 406521;1386204059;dub;as recently as a couple of months ago when I challenged him on his rampant gox shilling he claimed to have no attachment beyond fanboy 406522;1386204100;dub;he did have insider info from tux however 406523;1386204219;ThickAsThieves;just in case any of you can help, why is firewire service not showing in my new W7 machine? 406524;1386204258;ThickAsThieves;do new updates remove it or somehting 406525;1386204398;truffles;dunno what firewire is 406526;1386204406;ThickAsThieves;1394 406527;1386204412;ThickAsThieves;it's like USB 406528;1386204417;ThickAsThieves;but like SCSI 406529;1386204419;Duffer1;have you tried newest drivers? 406530;1386204422;ThickAsThieves;but Apple-fied 406531;1386204436;ThickAsThieves;well all the firewire drivers exist 406532;1386204441;dub;you are the first person I've ever heard of using firewire 406533;1386204444;assbot;[MPEX] [O] [O.USD.P095T] 10 @ 0.02 = 0.2 BTC [-] 406534;1386204445;dub;congrats 406535;1386204451;Duffer1;oh apple i know not 406536;1386204468;ThickAsThieves;dub, it's for my sound card 406537;1386204470;ThickAsThieves;a MOTU 406538;1386204482;ThickAsThieves;and old one 406539;1386204485;ThickAsThieves;an* 406540;1386204498;Duffer1;so apple running win7 w/ fire wire issue? 406541;1386204502;ThickAsThieves;no 406542;1386204502;nubbins`;i've got an old minidv camcorder that does firewire 406543;1386204510;ThickAsThieves;it actually works fine on the apple w7 setup 406544;1386204516;ThickAsThieves;this is just a normal w7 setup 406545;1386204544;ThickAsThieves;i'm worried the mobo cant support it at all or something 406546;1386204552;Duffer1;ya i was gonna say 406547;1386204561;truffles;but its brand new pc 406548;1386204562;truffles;shame 406549;1386204565;ThickAsThieves;but usually there is a category in Device Manager 406550;1386204571;ThickAsThieves;for 1394 406551;1386204573;Duffer1;has it ever worked on that comp? 406552;1386204577;ThickAsThieves;but it;s not even there 406553;1386204579;ThickAsThieves;its new 406554;1386204613;Duffer1;i'm shocked it even has a firewire plugin 406555;1386204616;ThickAsThieves;it doesnt 406556;1386204621;Duffer1;sound card? 406557;1386204622;ThickAsThieves;its a pci-e card 406558;1386204625;Duffer1;i see 406559;1386204635;ThickAsThieves;firewire sound cards are external 406560;1386204641;ThickAsThieves;it connects to the pcie 406561;1386204660;ThickAsThieves;its actually not a sound "card" at all 406562;1386204663;ThickAsThieves;its a rackmount unit 406563;1386204735;Duffer1;if it's pcie it shouldn't have a problem though 406564;1386204738;ThickAsThieves;http://media.soundonsound.com/sos/jul04/images/motu828mkii.l.jpg 406565;1386204761;Duffer1;sounds like some kind of driver issue, sorry man that's the extent of my suggestions :/ 406566;1386204788;ThickAsThieves;i had the card showing up as a yellow ? 406567;1386204797;benkay;does anyone have an email for jurov` 406568;1386204800;benkay;? 406569;1386204801;truffles;have u tried uninstalling and reinstalling? :D 406570;1386204817;ThickAsThieves;yeah, since uninstall it doesnt show at all now :/ 406571;1386204825;ThickAsThieves;benkay i do 406572;1386204829;ThickAsThieves;i hope that helps 406573;1386204835;ThickAsThieves;:) 406574;1386204853;ThickAsThieves;support@coinbr.com 406575;1386204872;Duffer1;tat what's make/model of the unit? 406576;1386204879;ThickAsThieves;of what 406577;1386204882;ThickAsThieves;the mobo? 406578;1386204890;Duffer1;the audio equipment 406579;1386204894;benkay;thankee kindly, sir. 406580;1386204896;ThickAsThieves;thats not the issue 406581;1386204911;ThickAsThieves;w7 doesnt even see the pcie card 406582;1386204917;ThickAsThieves;anymore 406583;1386204947;Duffer1;have you tried a different pci-e slot? 406584;1386204949;ThickAsThieves;the pcie card and the sound card are two diff products 406585;1386204972;ThickAsThieves;no 406586;1386204974;Duffer1;so the pci-e is firewire specific? 406587;1386204982;ThickAsThieves;it is a firewire card 406588;1386204986;Duffer1;ohhh ok 406589;1386205039;ThickAsThieves;oh well, back to the frustration 406590;1386205111;truffles;if its broken before u even got to use it, tough times ahead 406591;1386205129;nubbins`;honey shreddies 406592;1386205158;Duffer1;thickasthieves http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-hardware/firewire-devices-not-getting-recognized-on-windows/5202e866-aed8-4a04-8e8b-9927a1906971 406593;1386205206;Duffer1;thickasthieves scroll down to afzal taher's reply where he has you swap to legacy drivers 406594;1386205542;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34879999 BTC [-] 406595;1386205814;ThickAsThieves;nope, changing the pcie slot worked! 406596;1386205836;Duffer1;ah right on :) 406597;1386205850;truffles;gj Duffer1 406598;1386205910;Duffer1;mobo hardware fault on the first slot was actually my least likely scenario, but you gotta cover the bases anyways in pc troubleshooting 406599;1386205964;Duffer1;still might not even be a hardware fault hehe 406600;1386206143;dub;a lot of boards have shit like shared bus for the first pcie x1 and x16 slots 406601;1386206153;dub;so its one or the other, or bios switchable 406602;1386206173;Duffer1;or irq conflict 406603;1386206175;dub;two at x4 or one at x16 etc 406604;1386206213;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.3401 = 1.0203 BTC [-] 406605;1386206219;dub;don't assume its faulty before reading mobo spec anyway 406606;1386206312;ThickAsThieves;dub, yeah the gpu was the next slot 406607;1386206431;dub;I had trouble getting 5 pcie slots working that turned out ot be a bios switch, run the 3rd x16 slot at x4 livens up the last x1 slot 406608;1386206461;dub;crazy taiwanese 406609;1386206528;ThickAsThieves;i really should have known this already from my gpu mining days 406610;1386206559;ThickAsThieves;dub did you see my comment earlier today about my new speaker setup? 406611;1386206567;ThickAsThieves;i recall you being into this stuff 406612;1386206573;dub;must have mised it 406613;1386206620;dub;should get back into it actually 406614;1386206638;dub;made nice setup in new houes for my turnies and shit, havent actually used them 406615;1386206764;dub;you linking or do I need ot read the whole log :) 406616;1386206823;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 6 @ 0.02231001 = 0.1339 BTC [-] {5} 406617;1386206865;kakobrekla;you got techicks? 406618;1386206884;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 70 @ 0.003 = 0.21 BTC [+] 406619;1386206895;kakobrekla;technics* 406620;1386206946;dub;yessir mark 5s 406621;1386206949;truffles;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2A002Em8Yw skip to 1:17min 406622;1386206978;kakobrekla;yeah i got mk5 too 406623;1386206990;kakobrekla;teh standard. 406624;1386207006;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8294 @ 0.00080801 = 6.7016 BTC [+] {2} 406625;1386207010;dub;got SL3 cheap from my homie at serato 406626;1386207040;kakobrekla;i bought them like 10 years go 406627;1386207041;kakobrekla;ago 406628;1386207051;dub;same 406629;1386207105;kakobrekla;what setup you got tat? 406630;1386207128;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 740 @ 0.00044 = 0.3256 BTC [-] {4} 406631;1386207189;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 500 @ 0.000431 = 0.2155 BTC [-] 406632;1386207190;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00299999 = 0.15 BTC [-] 406633;1386207192;truffles;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsM2ZbQtulM lol 406634;1386207192;ozbot;ROCK-HARD-COCK - YouTube 406635;1386207249;dub;tat gonna be rocking srs bzns 406636;1386207271;dub;having heard his shit 406637;1386207292;Duffer1;with that rack he's got, i'm sure he didn't go budget on the monitors, i bet it sounds pretty good :P 406638;1386207368;thestringpuller;started from the bottom now we're here 406639;1386207375;thestringpuller;started from the bottom now the whole fuckin' team is here 406640;1386207380;thestringpuller;uh uh uh I'm drake 406641;1386207381;thestringpuller;uh uh 406642;1386207407;ThickAsThieves;sorry, dub ws afk 406643;1386207424;ThickAsThieves;i got full setup of neumann monitors and woofer 406644;1386207444;ThickAsThieves;killer killer killer 406645;1386207454;truffles;dub u could at least appreciate that cock game 406646;1386207481;dub;truffles: i made the call not to watch that at work 406647;1386207493;truffles;work pff 406648;1386207498;dub;don't want teh gays in security thinking I'm down 406649;1386207506;truffles;haha 406650;1386207524;truffles;its a game with a "hard" penis just rolling through like mario 406651;1386207536;truffles;or sonic 406652;1386207576;truffles;why r u still at work! 406653;1386207594;truffles;its way past overtime hrs in the east 406654;1386207663;dub;its december 406655;1386207672;thestringpuller;dub works the farms 406656;1386207676;thestringpuller;listening to that wub wub 406657;1386207677;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 260 @ 0.00043134 = 0.1121 BTC [+] {2} 406658;1386207681;thestringpuller;dub dub dub wub wub dub wub 406659;1386207685;dub;and every project has a unique snowflake trying to ram his shit through before brownout 406660;1386207714;dub;so dubs don't get to sleep 406661;1386207732;truffles;hope u party it up 406662;1386207738;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 398 @ 0.00044001 = 0.1751 BTC [+] 406663;1386207754;dub;I have three weeks in wine country from the 20th 406664;1386207762;dub;off grid, no cell coverage 406665;1386207763;truffles;:) 406666;1386207799;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.341 = 1.705 BTC [+] 406667;1386207814;truffles;i asked a friend why not take cell "just in case" lol 406668;1386207883;truffles;ofc i get it now 406669;1386207915;thestringpuller;dub has miles to go before he sleeps 406670;1386207918;thestringpuller;cause he has promises to keep 406671;1386207966;thestringpuller;!ticker h am100 406672;1386207968;assbot;[HAVELOCK:AM100] 1D: 0.00314120 / 0.00326529 / 0.00337880 (637 shares, 2.07999251 BTC), 7D: 0.00102001 / 0.00305895 / 0.00508899 (30802 shares, 94.22169677 BTC), 30D: 0.00102001 / 0.00447466 / 0.00802006 (165935 shares, 742.50348228 BTC) 406673;1386207994;truffles;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wV2YIUsZSJQ 406674;1386207995;ozbot;Innomine x Lee Kim - Promise To Keep It - YouTube 406675;1386208069;thestringpuller;so truffles, i learned the other dy 406676;1386208070;thestringpuller;day 406677;1386208075;thestringpuller;that truffles are traded on the black market 406678;1386208086;thestringpuller;;;seen pigeons 406679;1386208086;truffles;k 406680;1386208090;gribble;pigeons was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 5 days, 11 hours, 29 minutes, and 27 seconds ago: well he was sorry i'm sure 406681;1386208097;truffles;its just an alias though 406682;1386208097;dub;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huOtZVPxzT8 406683;1386208098;ozbot;Bob Marley - Work [05] - YouTube 406684;1386208127;thestringpuller;www.youtube.com/watch?v=08tYrBCgXlU 406685;1386208142;thestringpuller;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08tYrBCgXlU 406686;1386208148;thestringpuller;lol ozbot lag 406687;1386208173;dub;thestringpuller++ 406688;1386208225;Duffer1;oh man that makes me miss my record player 406689;1386208242;thestringpuller;Didn't know there were so many Isley Brothers fans in the house. 406690;1386208271;nubbins`;every home needs a good turntable 406691;1386208326;Duffer1;i still have all my old vinyl, no record player though hehe 406692;1386208371;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKejQsiHINg 406693;1386208371;ozbot;Frankie Paul - Work Hard - YouTube 406694;1386208443;ThickAsThieves;i have Pharcyde - Labcabcalifornia on my turntable 406695;1386208468;Vexual;ive got lana del ray 406696;1386208489;Vexual;dont remember playing that 406697;1386208565;truffles;think she's good link it 406698;1386208592;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 275 @ 0.00299998 = 0.825 BTC [-] {2} 406699;1386208659;ThickAsThieves;lana del ray has like 1 good song 406700;1386208671;ThickAsThieves;if i recall 406701;1386208684;truffles;summertime sadness? 406702;1386208685;Vexual;whole mp sounds nice through a needle 406703;1386208691;Vexual;*lp 406704;1386208696;Vexual;:) 406705;1386208703;ThickAsThieves;i suppose i didnt give her a full chance 406706;1386208712;ThickAsThieves;but thats cuz her rap xover attempt 406707;1386208724;dub;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48LLdLbAiQg 406708;1386208724;ozbot;Fatlip - What's Up Fatlip [VIDEO] - YouTube 406709;1386208767;truffles;dub listens to rap, shocker 406710;1386208776;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.14999999 BTC [+] 406711;1386208807;dub;GANSTA yeard 406712;1386208819;truffles;yeard = nerd* 406713;1386208936;Vexual;and the loot 406714;1386208974;nubbins`;i was listening to OM earlier on my turntable 406715;1386208981;nubbins`;nice music to get stoned & evolve to 406716;1386209071;Vexual;what om? 406717;1386209081;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34799999 BTC [+] 406718;1386209097;nubbins`;live conference 406719;1386209116;nubbins`;two sides, two tracks :D 406720;1386209191;mircea_popescu;sooo what's new 406721;1386209206;nubbins`;that and the live jesus lizard album have both been getting some heavy play 406722;1386209213;deadweasel;i got a new woman. 406723;1386209221;Vexual;sounds like attempted sabbath or something 406724;1386209239;truffles;deadweasel with pics? 406725;1386209239;nubbins`;ah, a bit more doomy 406726;1386209239;Vexual;and the neo bee guys seem nice apparently 406727;1386209252;nubbins`;and with more christian iconography 406728;1386209257;Vexual;sabbathy floydy? 406729;1386209262;Vexual;greatfuldeady? 406730;1386209263;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10192 @ 0.0008112 = 8.2678 BTC [+] 406731;1386209276;thestringpuller;nubbins` smokes the blunts?!?!? 406732;1386209278;nubbins`;nah, not even 406733;1386209279;thestringpuller;i would have never guessed 406734;1386209283;nubbins`;Vexual: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-O8eqR-9qMM 406735;1386209284;thestringpuller;being an artist and all 406736;1386209292;nubbins`;thestringpuller: never woulda guessed, hey? ;p 406737;1386209323;nubbins`;Vexual: ffw to 5:30 if you get bored 406738;1386209344;truffles;dub http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MU0f2V-WX6w 406739;1386209349;Vexual;it's nice, i might wait antil dark to give it a listen, its noon here 406740;1386209370;nubbins`;yah, night music 406741;1386209400;nubbins`;;;bc,xau 406742;1386209401;gribble;1 XAU = 1240.000000000000 USD = 1.01556101556 BTC 406743;1386209405;nubbins`;so close 406744;1386209413;kakobrekla;i heard it passed 406745;1386209420;nubbins`;;;ticker 406746;1386209421;kakobrekla;http://bitbet.us/bet/598/1-btc-will-surpass-price-of-1-troy/#c2004 406747;1386209422;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1223.31724, Best ask: 1224.98, Bid-ask spread: 1.66276, Last trade: 1221.0, 24 hour volume: 17789.40413775, 24 hour low: 1131.72718, 24 hour high: 1240.0, 24 hour vwap: 1201.99894 406748;1386209423;ozbot;BitBet - 1 BTC will surpass price of 1 Troy Oz of Gold in USD 406749;1386209475;mircea_popescu;hasn't passed yet afaik, but they kissed once before 406750;1386209506;kakobrekla;but but teh commentz sais NO 406751;1386209655;thestringpuller;;;ticker 406752;1386209655;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1224.005, Best ask: 1232.0, Bid-ask spread: 7.99500, Last trade: 1232.0, 24 hour volume: 17845.20159732, 24 hour low: 1131.72718, 24 hour high: 1240.0, 24 hour vwap: 1202.10105 406753;1386209813;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12800 @ 0.00081181 = 10.3912 BTC [+] {2} 406754;1386210124;Vexual;i want to see the v v video of um ah danny at this err cornerence 406755;1386210239;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 119 @ 0.00301 = 0.3582 BTC [+] 406756;1386210254;Vexual;i shoulkn't joke really, the only public speaking i ever do is when im three sheets to the wind, and i havn't been invited 406757;1386210289;nubbins`;it's definitely a skill 406758;1386210381;Vexual;is danny the main guy or the talkie face? 406759;1386210598;Vexual;there at lease looks like the possiblity of some value in their tech infrastructure already 406760;1386210732;mircea_popescu;;;eauth 406761;1386210732;gribble;(eauth ) -- Initiate authentication for user . You must have registered a GPG key with the bot for this to work. You will be given a link to a page which contains a one time password encrypted with your key. Decrypt, and use the 'everify' command with it. Your passphrase will expire in 10 minutes. 406762;1386210735;mircea_popescu;;;eauth mircea_popescu 406763;1386210736;gribble;Request successful for user mircea_popescu, hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/8A736F0E2FB7B452 406764;1386210738;Vexual;logo on the eftpos and shit 406765;1386210819;mircea_popescu;;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:fd5b35a2d2c684170319ac0b7d6e11bf98998e51958e5964a401066e 406766;1386210820;gribble;You are now authenticated for user mircea_popescu with key 8A736F0E2FB7B452 406767;1386210945;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhN93rFZuJs 406768;1386210945;ozbot;Business Time - Flight Of The Conchords (Lyrics) - YouTube 406769;1386211728;Vexual;i need a business that needs lots of capital so i can ipo like all the cool kids 406770;1386211778;mircea_popescu;an oil tanker factory. 406771;1386211789;Vexual;doesnt sound risky enough 406772;1386211789;mircea_popescu;prolly cost 10 bn to make one. 406773;1386211797;Duffer1;offer consulting services, fill the prospectus with words like synergize, ipo 406774;1386211812;Duffer1;risky for who? 406775;1386211814;asciilifeform;launch satellites. doesn't get much more risky than that. 406776;1386211819;Vexual;i already do, and my costs are low 406777;1386211826;asciilifeform;what's the state of the art? 20% failure? 406778;1386211827;Vexual;that more like it 406779;1386211879;Vexual;wheres cheapest to launch? im sick of this place 406780;1386211885;mircea_popescu;seriously, romania launched a fucxking satellite. 406781;1386211900;mircea_popescu;this shit is not as hard as making asics. 406782;1386211906;Vexual;nope 406783;1386211930;Vexual;making a good satellite is harder than getting it up 406784;1386211937;nubbins`;there's a launch pad in french guyana 406785;1386211942;nubbins`;nice weather down there 406786;1386211944;nubbins`;expensive tho 406787;1386211978;Vexual;a launchpad is just a concrete slab with predictable waether 406788;1386211984;nubbins`;nod 406789;1386211993;nubbins`;well i think it's actually a fully-fledged spaceport 406790;1386211995;nubbins`;whatever that entails 406791;1386212009;nubbins`;a few vending machines in the lobby, at least 406792;1386212014;Vexual;google still doing that low orbit free internet for plebs thing? 406793;1386212059;nubbins`;not sure if joking 406794;1386212061;Vexual;paid for by the local goat butcher 406795;1386212099;Vexual;they were planning to have an array across 35deg south or something so they can get africa 406796;1386212115;Vexual;sending em up with ballons 406797;1386212139;nubbins`;Vexual: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIw7oeZKpZc 406798;1386212144;nubbins`;that's *one song* 406799;1386212154;nubbins`;63:35 406800;1386212443;Vexual;sounds like the soundtrack to the road to the place that wolf creek was based on 406801;1386212481;Vexual;1000km north of woomera through the desert 406802;1386212519;Vexual;no greeting but a donkey with hooves growing through its knees, and no pies 406803;1386212525;Vexual;flee immediately 406804;1386212639;nubbins`;no vocals until 8:something 406805;1386212663;nubbins`;the story here is that this band went to their label 406806;1386212667;nubbins`;"here's our new album" 406807;1386212671;nubbins`;a single 63-minute track 406808;1386212677;nubbins`;label says "no, go fuck yourselves" 406809;1386212694;Vexual;that was the reply when i enquired about pies 406810;1386212695;thestringpuller;;;bc,stats 406811;1386212695;thestringpuller;.d 406812;1386212700;gribble;Current Blocks: 273123 | Current Difficulty: 7.074082830514966E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 274175 | Next Difficulty In: 1052 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 7 hours, 11 minutes, and 8 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 870647259.088 | Estimated Percent Change: 23.07564 406813;1386212701;nubbins`;haha 406814;1386212726;mircea_popescu;so did that stephen guy ever manage to short bitcoin ? 406815;1386212728;thestringpuller;;;calc (870647259.088 * .23) + 870647259.088 406816;1386212728;gribble;1070896128.68 406817;1386212735;nubbins`;then it was eventually released on another label chopped into a half dozen tracks 406818;1386212740;nubbins`;and then 4 years later in its original form 406819;1386212764;twizt;sup guys 406820;1386212774;Vexual;you're extra newbie friendly lately mp 406821;1386212778;nubbins`;ah, stephen didn't seem like he was ready to pull the trigger 406822;1386212783;nubbins`;hey twizt 406823;1386212836;mircea_popescu;Vexual i've always been newbie friendly 406824;1386212876;Duffer1;that gave me a good laugh :P 406825;1386212881;Duffer1;have you seen your website? 406826;1386212897;Duffer1;<3 406827;1386212920;nubbins`;newbs only get confused by shiny things 406828;1386212930;Vexual;do you still have the wallet of your first transaction mp? remember the date? 406829;1386212948;twizt;i was curious about something, and was wondering if you guys had any idea. are there legit bitcoin crowdfunding places? like instead of selling shares sell the actual product, like kickstart. i was looking at bitcoin ipos but most of those sites seem to go down fast and they issue shares/bonds with HYIP like returns lol 406830;1386212965;nubbins`;twizt: i think there's a "bitcoinstarter". usual caveats apply 406831;1386212965;mircea_popescu;not so far. 406832;1386212973;nubbins`;nothing i'd feel comfortable sending money to 406833;1386212978;twizt;im trying to start a hot sauce company 406834;1386212978;Vexual;what do you wanna fund twista? 406835;1386212991;Vexual;you havent got $30? 406836;1386212995;mircea_popescu;mustard and ketchup in the same bottle ? 406837;1386212999;twizt;lol nah 406838;1386213005;Duffer1;it's a multi layered barrier because you're dealing with security noobs, securities noobs, crypto currency noobs, and noob traders 406839;1386213006;twizt;ive actually put serious effort into it 406840;1386213010;nubbins`;sriracha sauce?! 406841;1386213017;twizt;nubbins`: better man 406842;1386213019;mircea_popescu;Duffer1 well i took him to mean verbally. 406843;1386213024;nubbins`;;) 406844;1386213028;nubbins`;GOCHUJANG?!?! 406845;1386213033;twizt;haha 406846;1386213045;Duffer1;oh ya i agree then 406847;1386213048;twizt;id rather sell the sauce than shares ;x 406848;1386213060;mircea_popescu;so put a website together and sell the sauce. 406849;1386213065;Vexual;u got the sauce all bottled up? 406850;1386213073;twizt;i did 25 sample batch.. 406851;1386213089;Vexual;thats $125 dollars right there 406852;1386213090;twizt;@ a co packer in NYC 406853;1386213093;nubbins`;what size bottle 406854;1386213098;nubbins`;cost, flavor, etc? 406855;1386213127;mircea_popescu;nubbins` elk's vomit. specially engineered for the canadian conoisseur. 406856;1386213143;Vexual;oooh have they been eating fairy mushrooms? 406857;1386213152;nubbins`;ah, yes. the first peoples call this majestic animal "wapiti" 406858;1386213153;twizt;nah its legit. you can whois my domain and get a lot of info about me 406859;1386213153;twizt;lol 406860;1386213160;nubbins`;never tried the vomit. have eaten the meat 406861;1386213176;mircea_popescu;twizt so you got a site, is it selling any ? 406862;1386213178;nubbins`;have also tried the mushrooms 406863;1386213184;twizt;mircea_popescu: only to friends and fam so far 406864;1386213184;nubbins`;fun until they're NO FUN 406865;1386213185;nubbins`;if you get what i mean 406866;1386213191;twizt;can't sell retail yet, not ready 406867;1386213196;Vexual;what do you need money for twista? a run of 1million? 406868;1386213198;dexX7;https://www.facebook.com/Newegg/posts/10152063129624168 + https://www.facebook.com/TigerDirect/posts/10151765930733639 wow 406869;1386213207;twizt;nah not even 406870;1386213212;nubbins`;twizt: you might have some success just hustling in the forums and on reddit 406871;1386213219;mircea_popescu;speaking of sriracha, 406872;1386213219;mircea_popescu;http://www.presstelegram.com/environment-and-nature/20131204/sriracha-operations-can-continue-if-it-doesnt-smell-irwindale-says 406873;1386213220;ozbot;Sriracha hot sauce operations can continue if it doesn’t smell, Irwindale says 406874;1386213226;twizt;yea it sucks trying to market a product no one has tried before 406875;1386213231;nubbins`;ah yeah! it was pretty touch-and-go for a while mp 406876;1386213247;mircea_popescu;twizt practically, search the forum for "mpoe-pr see here" 406877;1386213248;nubbins`;apparently that's the only factory that still uses fresh chilis 406878;1386213251;twizt;but people who tried it keep asking for more bottles and i dont have funds to go and make more ;\ 406879;1386213295;twizt;like what would make u guys wanna pay for a hotsauce u never tried before lol 406880;1386213299;twizt;(market research mode) 406881;1386213299;Vexual;how old are ya twista? 406882;1386213304;twizt;26 406883;1386213322;Duffer1;oo what kind of sauce 406884;1386213326;thestringpuller;lol newegg got trolled 406885;1386213328;thestringpuller;that's awesome 406886;1386213331;nubbins`;honestly, the flavour and the packaging 406887;1386213333;thestringpuller;bitcoin bitcoin #bitcoin 406888;1386213334;Vexual;so i guess the bottles are $10 then? 406889;1386213336;nubbins`;are what would sway me 406890;1386213350;twizt;no hold on 406891;1386213373;nubbins`;twizt: you should get a hundred or so bottles made, and start giving them away to restaurants 406892;1386213375;Duffer1;twizt hotwings recipe would get me to try it 406893;1386213393;Vexual;yeah go bulk 406894;1386213403;nubbins`;huy fong was exclusively a restaurant sauce for years 406895;1386213411;twizt;i havits about $8 for 16oz jar 406896;1386213415;nubbins`;and now you see red bottles w/ green caps everywhere 406897;1386213432;twizt;Duffer1: what do you mean? 406898;1386213433;nubbins`;16oz, what's that in real units 406899;1386213443;nubbins`;ah, 473ml 406900;1386213443;Vexual;half a kilo 406901;1386213444;twizt;16oz mason jars 406902;1386213455;twizt;its organic ingredients so i get raped in that regard 406903;1386213464;twizt;if didnt use organic it would be down to about $5 per 16oz 406904;1386213468;nubbins`;even better, hustle it to vegan restaurants 406905;1386213492;Duffer1;twizt either part of the packaging or marketing, a good looking recipe would probably move me to buy 406906;1386213505;twizt;Duffer1: you mean on the sauce itself? 406907;1386213513;Vexual;i would have thouight inorganic capsicums would be more expensive 406908;1386213526;Duffer1;ya or website, but i don't even know what kind of sauce we're talking about here 406909;1386213529;Vexual;benzene aint cheap 406910;1386213560;twizt;im using vinegar and perservative 406911;1386213567;asciilifeform;wtf is inorganic capsaicin? 406912;1386213569;twizt;and shelf life isnt long 406913;1386213576;twizt;about 30 days 406914;1386213576;Vexual;semantics 406915;1386213577;asciilifeform;some equivalent for silicon-based alien life? 406916;1386213598;twizt;Duffer1: can I PM you and show you my website (i dont want to put it on blast here) 406917;1386213610;Duffer1;cool i'd like that 406918;1386213610;nubbins`;hm 406919;1386213615;nubbins`;if it's got a 30 day shelf life 406920;1386213620;nubbins`;you don't have NEARLY enough salt in there 406921;1386213634;nubbins`;hot sauce should be non-perishable 406922;1386213699;snackman;hey mircea_popescu 406923;1386213702;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform you know it's been synthetised for like a century. 406924;1386213703;snackman;why exactly is this necessary: 406925;1386213705;snackman;"Incoming Bitcoin that doesn't exactly match a quoted sum will be simply kept, reported as profits and distributed to MPEx shareholders." 406926;1386213711;snackman;found here: http://mpex.co/faq.html 406927;1386213719;asciilifeform;synthetic, but still organic 406928;1386213721;nubbins`;snackman: part of using a communal deposit address 406929;1386213726;twizt;nubbins`: its more like a hot sauce dip, its heady, not water like 406930;1386213734;nubbins`;ah 406931;1386213734;twizt;hardy* 406932;1386213735;asciilifeform;or was this about the other sense of 'organic' 406933;1386213736;snackman;nubbins`: but it's kind of dangerous, make a typo and loose a couple grand 406934;1386213740;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform a that's what you meant. well yeah 406935;1386213744;nubbins`;snackman: well, ya know. 406936;1386213750;Vexual;newver trust the chemist at the farmers market 406937;1386213754;nubbins`;best be careful :) 406938;1386213758;mircea_popescu;snackman if you're gonna make typos use a broker. 406939;1386213777;snackman;mircea_popescu: are there btc brokers? 406940;1386213779;asciilifeform;dry clean shop on my street has a sign, no joke: 'we use /only/ organic solvents!' 406941;1386213783;nubbins`;organic = made from organs 406942;1386213785;nubbins`;like haggis 406943;1386213786;mircea_popescu;yes. 406944;1386213788;Vexual;lol 406945;1386213812;Vexual;or acetone, im not sure what happened to your suit sir, its all organic 406946;1386213826;asciilifeform;i suppose if you want your shirts washed in molten sodium, you'll have to go elsewhere. 406947;1386213868;snackman;mircea_popescu: also, what's up with my 10btc? 406948;1386213870;mircea_popescu;lol molten sodium. that'll definitely cost more than the suit. 406949;1386213888;Vexual;premium unleaded + heat = clean 406950;1386213934;nubbins`;nothing cleans like VOCs and flame! 406951;1386213980;KRS|gotyawallet;Ah, Japan.. http://i.imgur.com/K74v1U4.jpg 406952;1386213997;snackman;mircea_popescu: ? 406953;1386213999;twizt;you guys mentioned getting a buzz on reddit, how does one do that without looking like a complete jackass? 406954;1386214010;nubbins`;pretty hit and miss 406955;1386214010;Vexual;thats what fucked up graets flow, a trip to japan 406956;1386214019;nubbins`;it's luck of the draw, really 406957;1386214026;nubbins`;twizt: you should probably start local 406958;1386214034;snackman;mircea_popescu: i see somebody got scared of the psychoanalysis ;) 406959;1386214041;nubbins`;give samples to restaurants, especially hippie ones, and give samples to local food critics too 406960;1386214066;nubbins`;don't push it on em like a mope, just say hey, i've got this great organic sauce, try it out and let me know what you think 406961;1386214077;Vexual;catch the indian and thai and fusion cheps about quarter to 5 406962;1386214086;twizt;lol 406963;1386214115;nubbins`;^ this too 406964;1386214117;mircea_popescu;dude those legs 406965;1386214119;nubbins`;no joke 406966;1386214130;Vexual;u been mp? 406967;1386214138;mircea_popescu;to japan ? nah. 406968;1386214142;snackman;mircea_popescu: what's up with those legs? 406969;1386214149;Vexual;you know they have portable computers now right? 406970;1386214154;nubbins`;they look like kim kardashian's 406971;1386214172;nubbins`;i visited japan once, very costly 406972;1386214183;mircea_popescu;i don't care for their crampy lifestyle. 406973;1386214193;mircea_popescu;i like roofs over 2.5meters. 406974;1386214203;Vexual;my old master did it on the cheap in 62, sleeping bag on the railway platform 406975;1386214247;Vexual;searching for jujo dojos 406976;1386214292;Vexual;you get adopted 406977;1386214293;snackman;mircea_popescu: serious and unrealted q, mircea_popescu, what's up with the legs? 406978;1386214302;twizt;whats mpoe-pr mircea_popescu ? 406979;1386214324;nubbins`;ask krs, he posted the link 406980;1386214362;mircea_popescu;well exactly what it says on the tin, the pr for mpoe. 406981;1386214362;Vexual;japan has no answer 406982;1386214382;nubbins`;koreans HATE the japanese 406983;1386214386;nubbins`;full-on hate 406984;1386214425;mircea_popescu;the women too, or just the men ? 406985;1386214431;nubbins`;all of them 406986;1386214474;nubbins`;korean women especially hate japanese 406987;1386214520;mircea_popescu;http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/broken-drug-pipe-in-vagina-576432 406988;1386214520;ozbot;Hidden Glass Meth Pipe Causes A Bloody Mess | The Smoking Gun 406989;1386214537;snackman;twizt: mpoe-pr is fucking hot 406990;1386214550;twizt;i dont even kno what that is, unfortunately 406991;1386214579;mircea_popescu;twizt listen, bitcoin doesn't work in the way you intend to use it, "i have an idea" 406992;1386214586;mircea_popescu;nobody cares about your idea, nor does it at all matter. 406993;1386214596;mircea_popescu;sink the time to learn about bitcoin, which means like a year. 406994;1386214601;mircea_popescu;then maybe you may have an idea. 406995;1386214602;snackman;twizt: i would bang the blockchain out of that satochick, if you know what i mean 406996;1386214622;nubbins`;satochick 406997;1386214623;nubbins`;groan 406998;1386214627;snackman;nubbins`: ? 406999;1386214642;snackman;mircea_popescu: i've been trying to find pictures of mpoe-pr, but failed. could you help a brotha out? 407000;1386214660;Vexual;got coin? 407001;1386214663;nubbins`;who needs pictures when you have those fiery words? 407002;1386214689;nubbins`;i bet she fights when she's drunk 407003;1386214700;mircea_popescu;hawt sauce. 407004;1386214706;Vexual;i doubt she dets drunk 407005;1386214745;Vexual;the faireer sex has a different venacular when delicacies are involved 407006;1386214748;nubbins`;mircea_popescu: what's a good drunk set you back in romania? 407007;1386214750;twizt;well its more like a product im trying to market that no one has tried, than an idea. lol 407008;1386214753;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13138 @ 0.00080663 = 10.5975 BTC [-] {2} 407009;1386214762;nubbins`;dollar-wise 407010;1386214763;snackman;Vexual: ? 407011;1386214767;snackman;EWWWW 407012;1386214768;snackman;is that her? 407013;1386214769;snackman;http://i33.tinypic.com/5zicgj.jpg 407014;1386214773;snackman;how the FFF 407015;1386214780;mircea_popescu;nubbins` i just bought a gallon of tzuika, it's ~110 proof, pure plum juice. 407016;1386214784;snackman;i DO NOT want to have sexual relationships with that woman 407017;1386214789;mircea_popescu;it cost me a grand total of, 407018;1386214791;mircea_popescu;wait for it, 407019;1386214796;nubbins`;ah, plum booze, +1 407020;1386214798;mircea_popescu;3 bitcents 407021;1386214809;nubbins`;ah, not bad 407022;1386214816;nubbins`;so essentially you can kill yourself for $10 407023;1386214821;Vexual;no homo 407024;1386214826;mircea_popescu;nah, this shit doesn't kill you. 407025;1386214842;mircea_popescu;but you could get plastered for that, sure. 407026;1386214862;nubbins`;i dunno, if i drank 500ml of pure ethanol i'd be in sad shape 407027;1386214866;nubbins`;either way, that's pretty cheap 407028;1386214867;mircea_popescu;(i did once drink a liter of the stuff in one sitting. walked out) 407029;1386214876;nubbins`;there's minimum-price legislation here for booze 407030;1386214892;mircea_popescu;this is quite illegal, bought it from the guy that made it. 407031;1386214899;mircea_popescu;im sure he didn't pay the excise. 407032;1386214903;nubbins`;ah, yes indeed 407033;1386214908;nubbins`;apples are more common for that type of thing here 407034;1386214932;mircea_popescu;apple stuff is about half price 407035;1386214934;mircea_popescu;and for good reason 407036;1386214942;Vexual;can you get good tobacco there? 407037;1386214945;nubbins`;tastes like boiled down candy 407038;1386214948;nubbins`;fucks you up 407039;1386214962;nubbins`;i enjoy drinking large amounts of liquid, so i stick to beer 407040;1386214982;mircea_popescu;twizt that's fine and all, but you gotta understand, fmcg is a business, the distribution and marketing part is what counts. 407041;1386214999;mircea_popescu;it never comes down to "who can make the better sauce". it's a business. 407042;1386215005;nubbins`;nod 407043;1386215012;nubbins`;i'll likely never taste my favourite sauce 407044;1386215018;nubbins`;nor hear my favourite band 407045;1386215042;nubbins`;but im sure they both existed at some point 407046;1386215052;Vexual;u just got a b.marketing twista 407047;1386215080;nubbins`;liquors of the world 407048;1386215091;nubbins`;i had some homemade lemon gin a couple weeks ago 407049;1386215106;twizt;yea thats my problem.. gotta give away a few grand of merch to get a following 407050;1386215126;nubbins`;twizt: what size town/city do you live in? 407051;1386215128;twizt;lol my marketing plan in a nutshell 407052;1386215153;twizt;nubbins`: about 130k 407053;1386215180;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2409 @ 0.00011971 = 0.2884 BTC [-] {3} 407054;1386215194;nubbins`;honestly, it depends on how many years of your life you plan on spending at this 407055;1386215225;twizt;nubbins`: my plan is to make another large batch (unemployed atm) and go after grocery store chains 407056;1386215227;snackman;mircea_popescu: 407057;1386215232;snackman;this chick should do PR for you 407058;1386215232;snackman;http://www.erinpavlina.com/ 407059;1386215233;ozbot;Erin Pavlina 407060;1386215274;Vexual;http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs38/f/2008/343/5/3/Vampirella_of_Draculon_by_JoeJusko.jpg 407061;1386215278;nubbins`;suppose a grocery wants 1000 units a month, can you do that? 407062;1386215279;mircea_popescu;twizt chains will definitely not shelf you. go after restaurants as someone suggested. 407063;1386215288;mircea_popescu;preferably immigrant run small affairs. 407064;1386215307;nubbins`;well, grocery chains here often have a small local section 407065;1386215308;twizt;nah they will, i just need to work with a food scientist for shelf life expansion 407066;1386215312;nubbins`;granted, never very large 407067;1386215318;snackman;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=129544.msg1459524#msg1459524 407068;1386215324;snackman;no, mp is totall not a scammer 407069;1386215326;snackman;nu-uh 407070;1386215328;snackman;not at all 407071;1386215334;twizt;and they want the organic cert (farm to table crap) 407072;1386215338;mircea_popescu;so they will except they won't. listen, you gotta be "in" to get there. 407073;1386215343;mircea_popescu;they don't take walkins 407074;1386215345;nubbins`;read "EskimoBob", stopped reading 407075;1386215347;nubbins`;srsly 407076;1386215351;snackman;LOOOOL https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=129544.msg1480792#msg1480792 407077;1386215354;snackman;mircea_popescu: 407078;1386215357;snackman;you lost in court? 407079;1386215360;twizt;mircea_popescu: actually ez to get into stores, if you have right packaging, etc. 407080;1386215360;Vexual;chefs hand at the back door at the start of the night 407081;1386215363;snackman;i'm soooo sueing your arse! 407082;1386215364;snackman;BAHAHAHA 407083;1386215367;twizt;and i havent even invested in packaging 407084;1386215369;snackman;thanks for the fresh impulse 407085;1386215382;dexX7;speaking of that 407086;1386215389;dexX7;i'd love to see ROTA 2 407087;1386215394;nubbins`;snackman: you forgot your article 407088;1386215399;Vexual;chefs do they buying 407089;1386215401;mircea_popescu;dexX7 me too. 407090;1386215417;snackman;nubbins`: why? 407091;1386215423;snackman;nubbins`: i didn't sue him *YET* 407092;1386215428;snackman;him/her/it 407093;1386215431;nubbins`;snackman: no, before "court" 407094;1386215440;snackman;apparently mircea_popescu likes the trans*gender crowd 407095;1386215453;snackman;nubbins`: ? 407096;1386215479;nubbins`;snackman: you forgot your article before "court" 407097;1386215491;Vexual;fail claims 407098;1386215517;mircea_popescu;;;bc,diff 407099;1386215517;gribble;Error: "bc,diff" is not a valid command. 407100;1386215537;mircea_popescu;;;bc,stats 407101;1386215542;snackman;nubbins`: what the actual fuck are you blabbering 407102;1386215543;gribble;Current Blocks: 273131 | Current Difficulty: 7.074082830514966E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 274175 | Next Difficulty In: 1044 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 4 hours, 15 minutes, and 37 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 872815197.383 | Estimated Percent Change: 23.3821 407103;1386215587;nubbins`;snackman: you didn't use an article before the noun 407104;1386215624;snackman;nubbins`: https://www.google.com/search?q=sue+in+court do you see any article in front of court? 407105;1386215641;nubbins`;well, no, in that case, the definite article is implied 407106;1386215643;snackman;pathetic gypsy scum tryina correct my ingrish wtf? 407107;1386215651;snackman;nubbins`: DUDE are you serious? 407108;1386215657;nubbins`;leel 407109;1386215683;snackman;nubbins`: http://christianity.about.com/b/2012/06/01/should-christians-sue-in-court.htm 407110;1386215686;nubbins`;the link you posted says he lost in *a* court 407111;1386215692;snackman;nubbins`: where are you from? 407112;1386215698;snackman;nubbins`: because this is seriously basic english 407113;1386215699;nubbins`;the internet!! 407114;1386215701;ThickAsThieves;hot sauce that expires?! 407115;1386215729;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20100 @ 0.00080516 = 16.1837 BTC [-] {2} 407116;1386215734;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves you know even habaneros mold. 407117;1386215746;ThickAsThieves;not in vinegar 407118;1386215749;ThickAsThieves;does it contain bacteria from volcanoes for flavor? 407119;1386215759;nubbins`;heh, ground pumice 407120;1386215766;Vexual;ive got some in the boat in a vegemite jar i made, 10 years old, lid hasnt poped yet 407121;1386215768;nubbins`;that'd provide some heat 407122;1386215798;mike_c;nubbins speaks canadien 407123;1386215822;Vexual;wouldnt eat it unless scurvy tho 407124;1386215827;nubbins`;quite well 407125;1386215849;nubbins`;although i do drop the occasional 'u' 407126;1386215850;mircea_popescu;actually... obsydian jars... 407127;1386216015;ThickAsThieves;;;nethash 407128;1386216016;gribble;6400549.04237 407129;1386216022;ThickAsThieves;hasnt changed in two days 407130;1386216134;Vexual;science probability model is broken, everyone knows that 407131;1386216154;mircea_popescu;it's not going to change as long as the diff isn't changing 407132;1386216201;Vexual;want an android app to wake you up TAT? 407133;1386216209;ThickAsThieves;for? 407134;1386216216;ThickAsThieves;i dont use alarms 407135;1386216218;Vexual;im teasing 407136;1386216255;ThickAsThieves;what a horrible way to start your day 407137;1386216264;Vexual;you lose, you lose 407138;1386216271;unbalanced;Is the last commentor at http://bitbet.us/bet/598/1-btc-will-surpass-price-of-1-troy/ right? I know it didn't make it back on the 1st but it looks like they did cross a couple of hours ago. 407139;1386216313;unbalanced;Time zones and really really bad Kitco charts make it a little hard to tell 407140;1386216334;Vexual;im close to the dateline, so im not allowed to bet 407141;1386216346;unbalanced;A moment in history, bitfolk. 407142;1386216358;mircea_popescu;unbalanced quite possiblty it did cross 407143;1386216370;unbalanced;snackman there might still be time you should totally go for it 407144;1386216376;mircea_popescu;prolly have a result tomorrow. 407145;1386216392;snackman;unbalanced: dudeee i'm so getting in 407146;1386216433;unbalanced;I believe you 407147;1386216453;snackman;unbalanced: ok i'm gonna bet no here because the gold value is resistance 407148;1386216457;snackman;i'm into technical analysis now 407149;1386216463;Vexual;want me to put it on? i can do it yesterday 407150;1386216467;unbalanced;Picking up pennies in front of a steamroller 407151;1386216524;Vexual;but it will take me about 3 weeks to get to fiji, you'll have to pay expoenses 407152;1386216538;ThickAsThieves;it looks like it did cross 407153;1386216547;unbalanced;snackman, just in case you're not joking, I was: It. Already. Happened. 407154;1386216584;snackman;WTF 407155;1386216587;snackman;HOW 407156;1386216588;snackman;NOOOOO 407157;1386216593;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPRzrjwetX0 we gon smoke an ounce to this 407158;1386216594;ozbot;Snoop Doggy Dogg - Gin & Juice. With Lyrics - YouTube 407159;1386216597;snackman;GUYS 407160;1386216604;snackman;THE DATE IS CLEARLY NOVEMBER 2014 AND NOW 2013 407161;1386216652;ThickAsThieves;The Chronic by Dr. Dre is seriously overrated. There, I said it. 407162;1386216705;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34001001 BTC [-] 407163;1386216766;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.12500001 BTC [-] 407164;1386216830;nubbins`;http://bitbet.us/bet/355/us-federal-minimum-wage-will-be-raised-above/ 407165;1386216832;ozbot;BitBet - US Federal Minimum Wage will be raised above $7.25 by the end of 2013 407166;1386216841;nubbins`;ah, what's the us federal minimum wage right now? 407167;1386216860;snackman;HAHAHAHA MIRCEA HAS NO SECONDARY EDUCATION? 407168;1386216864;snackman;WTF ARE YOU GUYS DOING :D 407169;1386216872;snackman;this is getting more and more hilarious by the second 407170;1386216880;ThickAsThieves;I have no secondary education, well, none that I paid for. 407171;1386216881;nubbins`;lel 407172;1386216888;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 63 @ 0.00320045 = 0.2016 BTC [-] {4} 407173;1386216893;nubbins`;don't confuse education with intelligence 407174;1386216924;Vexual;theyre almost inversly proportional by accepted definitions 407175;1386216948;unbalanced;nubbins: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/04/obama-minimum-wage-increase-protests 407176;1386216949;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.02232 = 0.1116 BTC [-] 407177;1386216980;ThickAsThieves;I bet against that one too 407178;1386217005;ThickAsThieves;http://bitbet.us/bet/355/us-federal-minimum-wage-will-be-raised-above/ 407179;1386217008;ozbot;BitBet - US Federal Minimum Wage will be raised above $7.25 by the end of 2013 407180;1386217010;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 64 @ 0.0030165 = 0.1931 BTC [+] 407181;1386217033;Vexual;aka meth futures 407182;1386217038;unbalanced;I don't see it happening before New Year's Eve (min wage) 407183;1386217062;nubbins`;a rise in min wage is annoying for big companies, dangerous for small companies 407184;1386217066;mircea_popescu;sooo... -18 F for denver tonight 407185;1386217094;Vexual;fuck 407186;1386217097;nubbins`;imagine if your biggest expense went up by 39%! 407187;1386217109;nubbins`;oh wow, that's cold 407188;1386217117;ThickAsThieves;thats the only thing shitty about Colorado, the weather can kill you in so many ways 407189;1386217130;Vexual;i havent seen <+18c for a year 407190;1386217133;mircea_popescu;nubbins` people who predominantly pay minimum wage mostly use undocumented illegals anyway 407191;1386217154;snackman;http://about.me/sam.weinrott please like my profile 407192;1386217156;Vexual;so if you fall asleep coming home fromt the pub u die? 407193;1386217168;ThickAsThieves;and small businesses that only pay minimum wage go out of business eventually anywya 407194;1386217170;unbalanced;Raising the min wage hurts the least skilled workers... fewer opportunities to work if employers are banned from paying what they're worth. 407195;1386217175;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=mircea_popescu&sign=ANY&type=RECV take that! 407196;1386217194;nubbins`;well, i mean, it's 7.25 now, suppose you're paying everyone 9.25 407197;1386217198;Vexual;show us something trustless bitcoiner 407198;1386217211;nubbins`;and the min wage goes up to 10.10 407199;1386217240;nubbins`;so you either give them a raise to min wage and be an asshole, or raise them to, say, 12.10 407200;1386217260;ThickAsThieves;so "fair" is the problem? 407201;1386217265;nubbins`;oh, no 407202;1386217268;Vexual;id be getting a license and pumping the photo active radiation if i was in america 407203;1386217280;mircea_popescu;nubbins` you're closing shop anyway, becauyse you can't afford obamacare. 407204;1386217290;unbalanced;If washing the floors say isn't worth paying someone $10/hr to do, then people won't get hired to do that. (Or far fewer people will as the floors will get washed less often.) 407205;1386217295;nubbins`;just making the point that a raise in minimum wage generally means a raise in non-minimum wage 407206;1386217301;unbalanced;agreed 407207;1386217307;nubbins`;so even if you're not one of these soon-to-be-out-of-business places paying min wage 407208;1386217313;nubbins`;you're taking the same hit in the pocketbook 407209;1386217331;Vexual;i jest mp, in a world of masturbators, you innovated 407210;1386217332;ThickAsThieves;they arent forcing you to give everyone a raise 407211;1386217332;unbalanced;And it reduces the employement opportunities for the least-skilled workers, the ones it's supposed to help. 407212;1386217337;nubbins`;mircea_popescu: at 7.25/hr, i'm not sure how anybody's affording anything 407213;1386217355;mircea_popescu;unbalanced they got robots now. 407214;1386217357;ThickAsThieves;7.25 costs the US more than 10 407215;1386217366;nubbins`;nod 407216;1386217370;nubbins`;^^ 407217;1386217378;nubbins`;can we underline that? 407218;1386217391;unbalanced;where "washing the floors" = "insert some min wage job here" 407219;1386217400;thestringpuller;lol 407220;1386217406;Vexual;so you can buy a house in detroit for about a months labour on minimum wage? 407221;1386217425;mircea_popescu;Vexual no, but you can buy it for about twenny bjs 407222;1386217445;Vexual;that place will quickly learn to innovate again 407223;1386217455;nubbins`;mad max style 407224;1386217457;Duffer1;hehe 407225;1386217466;Vexual;thats not a bad idea 407226;1386217470;unbalanced;nubbins should you save BTC for the 1B difficulty bet though? 407227;1386217471;nubbins`;well, i mean 407228;1386217473;Vexual;ratters outta detroit 407229;1386217475;nubbins`;they've got all the cars 407230;1386217482;ThickAsThieves;after every unpaid vendor to the city folds and gangs up with Mel Gibson 407231;1386217494;nubbins`;unbalanced: me personally, or me in general? 407232;1386217508;nubbins`;sorry, we don't have the words in english ;( 407233;1386217519;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2DJwMcVj_w 407234;1386217520;ozbot;my model A roadster hot rod - YouTube 407235;1386217544;nubbins`;although you hear some people say "ye" for the plural of you 407236;1386217547;ThickAsThieves;youtube links are like the most unappealing links to me 407237;1386217552;Vexual;they just need someone who can read the design criteria and provide rice 407238;1386217553;unbalanced;I mean several bets end around the end ot the month 407239;1386217556;nubbins`;heh 407240;1386217565;unbalanced;The diff one pays better than the others 407241;1386217566;nubbins`;log.bitcoin-assets.com links for me 407242;1386217569;unbalanced;And ends sooner 407243;1386217570;mircea_popescu;so ? they're prepaid 407244;1386217574;Vexual;sorry TAT, i have to authenticate myself somehow 407245;1386217588;ThickAsThieves;heh 407246;1386217590;unbalanced;If you're looking at where to put new bets 407247;1386217603;nubbins`;i'm not ;/ 407248;1386217621;ThickAsThieves;keep betting on Yes so I can take your money 407249;1386217645;Vexual;get a case of whisky and relex for a few weeks 407250;1386217665;mircea_popescu;if the diff ends up 9999999666 or some shit, 407251;1386217674;Vexual;buy some records and a sweet bag of hooter 407252;1386217735;unbalanced;ThickAsThieves, quoting pancakke's smug Costanza avatar: Do you even mine? 407253;1386217755;unbalanced;These nailbiters are exciting to watch. 407254;1386217758;mircea_popescu;he doesn;'t, which is why he's on no. the miners are on yes. 407255;1386217792;unbalanced;I know, I just wanted to quote that quote, I laugh every time I see it. 407256;1386217805;Vexual;i think graet and yuko are hocked to the nines, thats why diff stay same 407257;1386217815;unbalanced;It was a stretch here, sure. 407258;1386217821;mircea_popescu;anyway, that's all for me. take it ezzy all. 407259;1386217827;unbalanced;g'night 407260;1386217837;ThickAsThieves;can anyone answer this, 407261;1386217849;ThickAsThieves;has cex.io ever proven it hashes? 407262;1386217854;Vexual;no 407263;1386217864;Vexual;i was on the same thought track 407264;1386217905;ThickAsThieves;so no one has ever even asked ghash.io or bitfury if they are connected? 407265;1386217911;ThickAsThieves;is this not obvious? 407266;1386217925;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 25 @ 0.02498792 = 0.6247 BTC [+] {3} 407267;1386217929;Vexual;pattern learning 407268;1386217951;Duffer1;i was under the impression they were some kind of private pool. labcoin used them 407269;1386217961;dexX7;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=318010.0 "CEX.IO works with a private mining pool GHash.IO. It supplies the commodity exchange with GHS from authorised partners, who secure a constant maintenance of GHS. GHash.IO uses the PPLNS payout system, where rewards are distributed among shares in a window, starting with the last share submitted and going backwards up to some number N of shares." 407270;1386217963;ozbot;***CEX.IO Cloud mining official page*** 407271;1386217977;Vexual;its more likely that they are real hashes 407272;1386217994;Vexual;but the separation... 407273;1386218003;ThickAsThieves;dexx7 wtf does that even say 407274;1386218032;Vexual;even the price is outrageous 407275;1386218032;dexX7;i read it as "we at cex.io sell the hashrate from ghash.io" 407276;1386218063;ThickAsThieves;yeah i still dont see proof 407277;1386218063;Vexual;well u cant read 407278;1386218075;dexX7;:D 407279;1386218095;ThickAsThieves;ghash.io is run by bitfury, yes? 407280;1386218114;Vexual;i forget, but i think the guy isnt right in there 407281;1386218135;Vexual;if its real its a cool sysytem, but you're right, its far from proven 407282;1386218179;dexX7;cex and ghash share the same logins 407283;1386218225;Vexual;he can make the market in any case 407284;1386218232;Vexual;real or no 407285;1386218236;ThickAsThieves;http://www.ip-adress.com/whois/ghash.io 407286;1386218243;ThickAsThieves;they are indeed connected 407287;1386218272;ThickAsThieves;so do we know any reputable people that use ghash? 407288;1386218291;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10800 @ 0.00010007 = 1.0808 BTC [-] {3} 407289;1386218293;ThickAsThieves;do they sign blocks 407290;1386218302;dexX7;afaik no 407291;1386218306;ThickAsThieves;lol 407292;1386218309;ThickAsThieves;srsly? 407293;1386218334;snackman;i mine with ghash 407294;1386218335;snackman;why? 407295;1386218339;ThickAsThieves;shut up 407296;1386218352;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34001 BTC [-] 407297;1386218363;snackman;i'm dead serious 407298;1386218372;snackman;i just got a jupiter monday 407299;1386218380;ThickAsThieves;;;ud repurable 407300;1386218380;snackman;what do you want as proof? 407301;1386218380;gribble;Google found nothing. 407302;1386218386;ThickAsThieves;;;ud reputable 407303;1386218387;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=reputable | ... reputable; Reputant · reputate · reputation · Reputation Architect · Reputation Armor · Reputation arsonist · reputation dysmorphia · Reputation Management ... 407304;1386218387;ozbot;Urban Dictionary: reputable 407305;1386218393;snackman;;;ud gypsy 407306;1386218394;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gypsy | Fucking scum of the earth (not the traditional gypsies, but the cunts found all over the United Kingdom.) I used to lodge in a cottage in a small v... 407307;1386218394;ozbot;Urban Dictionary: gypsy 407308;1386218396;dexX7;https://blockchain.info/blocks/GHash.IO 407309;1386218397;ozbot;Blocks mined on 407310;1386218408;Vexual;so they took friedcats catchcry of deployment vectors, and did it better 407311;1386218412;nubbins`;;;ud article 407312;1386218412;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=article | Articles AR-tuh-kleez n. The Greek god who protects all paper and printed documents stored within the Clouds around Mt. Olympus. 407313;1386218413;ozbot;Urban Dictionary: article 407314;1386218418;ThickAsThieves;ok so it's for real then 407315;1386218419;nubbins`;hm 407316;1386218421;ThickAsThieves;case closed 407317;1386218422;dexX7;https://blockchain.info/address/1CjPR7Z5ZSyWk6WtXvSFgkptmpoi4UM9BC < this is the incoming address for ghash 407318;1386218423;ozbot;Bitcoin Address 1CjPR7Z5ZSyWk6WtXvSFgkptmpoi4UM9BC 407319;1386218425;dexX7;well 407320;1386218430;dexX7;it's tagged as ghash 407321;1386218431;dexX7;that's all 407322;1386218463;snackman;wow, 90mill € 407323;1386218463;ThickAsThieves;so what angle makes it possibly not legit? 407324;1386218469;dexX7;but they are responsible for about 25 % of mined blocks 407325;1386218474;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10900 @ 0.00009255 = 1.0088 BTC [-] {9} 407326;1386218476;Vexual;market making TAT 407327;1386218491;Vexual;they can provide the hashes but they neednt 407328;1386218505;ThickAsThieves;hmm 407329;1386218509;dexX7;i see no flaw. why are you asking in the first place? 407330;1386218539;ThickAsThieves;cuz i dont follow bitfury, and thus assumed cex.io was a scam when first released 407331;1386218548;ThickAsThieves;and the topic has come up a few time slately 407332;1386218559;ThickAsThieves;so i wanted to know for sure 407333;1386218560;dexX7;ah okayx 407334;1386218569;Vexual;they keep it on the dlo for sure 407335;1386218588;Vexual;but fuck if they not smahing blocks 407336;1386218600;ThickAsThieves;indeed 407337;1386218641;Vexual;people talk about intel and whatnot getting into minging 407338;1386218642;snackman;ThickAsThieves: you guys need to stop projecting 407339;1386218653;snackman;just because you are scammers, doesn't mean everybody else is trying to scam as well 407340;1386218653;Vexual;i don't see it happening 407341;1386218657;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4000 @ 0.00008155 = 0.3262 BTC [-] {15} 407342;1386218676;ThickAsThieves;i could see a fringe tech co doing it 407343;1386218678;ThickAsThieves;like ASUS 407344;1386218693;Vexual;coint has the skills 407345;1386218734;Vexual;but im thinking friedcats feb chips might just own shit 407346;1386218754;Vexual;that cat got a taste of the top 407347;1386218769;nubbins`;ah, i dunno 407348;1386218780;Vexual;if theyre amd good, everyone willl buy them 407349;1386218833;ThickAsThieves;i think mining going more private and centralized will already be happening by then 407350;1386218852;Vexual;u mean pools owning? 407351;1386218859;ThickAsThieves;this selling of cubes to Joe SixSatoshi cant last 407352;1386218896;Vexual;no, cat will have to come with real prices 407353;1386218901;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 32 @ 0.00320001 = 0.1024 BTC [-] 407354;1386218904;Vexual;i think he knows that 407355;1386218917;ThickAsThieves;i mean where the nethash will start violently increasing and we wont even have a clue who it is 407356;1386218941;Vexual;yeah, i could have a custom chip ouit and you wouldnt know 407357;1386218979;Vexual;but wouldnt i be seeling them for more than they can ever possibly make? 407358;1386219007;ThickAsThieves;well you'd be selling chips, yeah 407359;1386219019;ThickAsThieves;its the next stage 407360;1386219023;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1890 @ 0.00007407 = 0.14 BTC [-] {7} 407361;1386219027;ThickAsThieves;first scalp the small guys 407362;1386219031;Vexual;you affiliated with nay particular pool tat? 407363;1386219036;ThickAsThieves;nope 407364;1386219052;Vexual;u thinkl tthat will be a thing? 407365;1386219055;ThickAsThieves;i just info-mine to make trades 407366;1386219061;Vexual;yah 407367;1386219066;Vexual;me too, smaller scale 407368;1386219100;Vexual;minings always gonna be a thing, even when people forget about the exchange arte 407369;1386219148;dexX7;forget about the exchange rate? 407370;1386219164;bloctoc;;;seen mircea_popescu 407371;1386219165;gribble;mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 22 minutes and 23 seconds ago: anyway, that's all for me. take it ezzy all. 407372;1386219167;ThickAsThieves;when its not volatile anymore 407373;1386219185;ThickAsThieves;or much less so 407374;1386219207;ThickAsThieves;btc kissing gold again 407375;1386219213;ThickAsThieves;;;ticker 407376;1386219213;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1228.5, Best ask: 1237.985, Bid-ask spread: 9.48500, Last trade: 1228.01001, 24 hour volume: 17879.86454160, 24 hour low: 1131.72718, 24 hour high: 1240.0, 24 hour vwap: 1206.44566 407377;1386219237;nubbins`;;;bc,xau 407378;1386219237;gribble;1 XAU = 1240.700000000000 USD = 1.002180937 BTC 407379;1386219242;nubbins`;:o 407380;1386219254;dexX7;ah. :D 407381;1386219263;bloctoc;are there any places to buy options besides mpex? mpex looks empty today 407382;1386219267;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 34 @ 0.0032 = 0.1088 BTC [-] {4} 407383;1386219279;ThickAsThieves;none that i'd refer you to 407384;1386219304;bloctoc;would you refer anyone to mpex? 407385;1386219318;ThickAsThieves;yes, with a disclaimer about the premium costs 407386;1386219339;ThickAsThieves;and a disclaimer about MP being no joke when it comes to rules 407387;1386219370;Vexual;i hate it when busniess men stick to the contract 407388;1386219375;ThickAsThieves;hehe 407389;1386219404;bloctoc;do you happen to know where the offers went today? I was trying to get some prices together for a model, and everything's alls gone 407390;1386219417;ThickAsThieves;the data source for spot price is down 407391;1386219427;unbalanced;When bitcoincharts goes down the quotes can't be calculated. 407392;1386219430;Vexual;its an iq test 407393;1386219442;unbalanced;(Is that the source still or am I out of date?) 407394;1386219448;ThickAsThieves;i think it is 407395;1386219457;ThickAsThieves;cuz they said they upgraded 407396;1386219458;bloctoc;ahhh, thanks. 407397;1386219461;ThickAsThieves;lotta good it did 407398;1386219512;unbalanced;bloctoc: The 24hr USD VWAP (Volume Weighted Average Price) on http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/currencies/ is part of the option valuation math. 407399;1386219549;bloctoc;cool, I'll go grab a calculator. 407400;1386219574;ThickAsThieves;well you are missing the bot algo 407401;1386219577;ThickAsThieves;so good luck 407402;1386219594;bloctoc;BLACK SCHOLES BABY!!!! 407403;1386219645;unbalanced;But if we can see that page I'd think the bot would be quoting so maybe some other sources are involved too these days. I've been out of touch between chart tops. 407404;1386219665;unbalanced;*Part Tops = what drunk people call Pop Tarts 407405;1386219942;Vexual;sorry tat 407406;1386219949;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdnYzIxQUWE 407407;1386219949;ozbot;Beastie Boys - Don't Play no Game That I Can't Win - YouTube 407408;1386219999;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.3468 = 1.0404 BTC [+] {3} 407409;1386220211;nubbins`;music links, i'll occasionally click 407410;1386220217;nubbins`;general youtube links, rarely 407411;1386220222;Vexual;hit me nubs 407412;1386220278;nubbins`;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-o5TRmiDIo 407413;1386220278;ozbot;Battles | Wall Street | A Take Away Show - YouTube 407414;1386220359;nubbins`;filmed in paris city hall 407415;1386220387;Vexual;im scared 407416;1386220532;Vexual;wait i thought it was the metro 407417;1386220548;nubbins`;who knows? the something anyway 407418;1386220564;Vexual;i was about to go upstairs and buy some catacombs porn 407419;1386220853;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 133 @ 0.0029101 = 0.387 BTC [-] {4} 407420;1386220866;KRS|gotyawallet;vexual 407421;1386220873;KRS|gotyawallet;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9meN8MCYfI 407422;1386220873;ozbot;Nelly - E.I. - Lyrics - YouTube 407423;1386220875;Vexual;sup slut 407424;1386220881;KRS|gotyawallet;somethin to fuck with ya eardrum 407425;1386220887;Vexual;hahah 407426;1386220916;KRS|gotyawallet;just got done blasting it..back on my grind tonight..aint stoppin til the morning 407427;1386220951;Vexual;cant do it 407428;1386220982;nubbins`;here's something else you can't do 407429;1386220983;KRS|gotyawallet;ok im getting to know what you dig 407430;1386220984;nubbins`;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UH0ESZzIxMI 407431;1386220984;ozbot;The Jesus Lizard - Club - YouTube 407432;1386220994;nubbins`;^ been listening to this on vinyl all week 407433;1386221014;gecko_x2;jesus christ 407434;1386221019;KRS|gotyawallet;wow vinyl..some say that delivers the most fidelity 407435;1386221035;nubbins`;feels like your ears are being tickled 407436;1386221043;nubbins`;they put a lot more effort into mastering for vinyl 407437;1386221051;Vexual;some do 407438;1386221107;Vexual;my record player cost $12, when i upgrade, im sitting on a gold mine 407439;1386221122;nubbins`;jesus lizard had a bunch of records produced by steve albini 407440;1386221132;nubbins`;you can bet they were mastered best for vinyl ;) 407441;1386221226;KRS|gotyawallet;this kind of reminds me of early the breeders or something 407442;1386221229;KRS|gotyawallet;punk 407443;1386221245;Vexual;anyone tried makerbot records yet? 407444;1386221262;KRS|gotyawallet;? 407445;1386221277;nubbins`;krs, check out the albums "goat" and "down" by these guys if you like it so far 407446;1386221282;KRS|gotyawallet;ok 407447;1386221298;KRS|gotyawallet;the associate? 407448;1386221306;Vexual;press print and get industrial noise 407449;1386221341;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34799999 BTC [+] 407450;1386221364;nubbins`;ah, ? 407451;1386221425;KRS|gotyawallet;im digging song 1 of goat 407452;1386221433;Vexual;well if you printed a record with a makerbot, all the tracks would be 2mm apart 407453;1386221451;nubbins`;goat's a great album 407454;1386221454;nubbins`;see the cover art? 407455;1386221460;KRS|gotyawallet;yea 407456;1386221461;nubbins`;actually not flames :0 407457;1386221466;KRS|gotyawallet;they have a grunge feel which i like a lot 407458;1386221472;nubbins`;look closer 407459;1386221482;KRS|gotyawallet;hah i see a tit 407460;1386221500;KRS|gotyawallet;woman made out of flames neat..didnt notice it 407461;1386221500;nubbins`;nod 407462;1386221508;nubbins`;this is from 1991 407463;1386221520;KRS|gotyawallet;ya grunge era 407464;1386221543;KRS|gotyawallet;they seem like a group that would open for soundgarden.. The group Soundgarden is like one of my all time fav's..ever listen to them? 407465;1386221561;nubbins`;listened to soundgarden a lot in my younger years 407466;1386221567;nubbins`;saw em a couple of years ago in chicago 407467;1386221603;KRS|gotyawallet;soundgarden reminds me of me in my 20's street racing my 5.0 mustang with nitrous and shit..amazing i came out of that period alive. 407468;1386221603;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 407469;1386221638;KRS|gotyawallet;some of my friends didnt and some are still dealing with their acid trips 407470;1386221687;KRS|gotyawallet;im gonna have to remember this album i like it thanks 407471;1386221701;nubbins`;yah, worth many listens 407472;1386221715;KRS|gotyawallet;make me want to listen to badmotorfinger 407473;1386221717;Vexual;what? 407474;1386221728;nubbins`;Vexual: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhHwuPNA-j4 407475;1386221799;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4b3MBkOx5k 407476;1386221988;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TehFZ38kt6o 407477;1386221988;ozbot;Thin Lizzy-Whiskey in the jar - YouTube 407478;1386222073;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2004 @ 0.000075 = 0.1503 BTC [+] {2} 407479;1386222265;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fLR3FRaFsQ 407480;1386222266;ozbot;Oasis - Some Might Say - Official Video - YouTube 407481;1386222363;KRS|gotyawallet;Oasis- good group 407482;1386222394;KRS|gotyawallet;I love it, play Eric Clapton - Cocaine on you tube.. an ad displays a link that reads "Buy Cocaine on iTunes" 407483;1386222439;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 300 @ 0.0030129 = 0.9039 BTC [+] {3} 407484;1386222545;Vexual;youll get an ad for an ipod 407485;1386222628;nubbins`;re: cocaine 407486;1386222629;nubbins`;http://somehavechanged.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/george_harrison_-_cloud_nine-front.jpg 407487;1386222632;nubbins`;^ 407488;1386222641;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R044sleOW6I 407489;1386222642;ozbot;Ram Jam - Black Betty 1977 - YouTube 407490;1386222655;nubbins`;nite 407491;1386222666;Vexual;wait prog rock is coming up 407492;1386222744;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.34799994 = 2.784 BTC [-] {3} 407493;1386222881;Vexual;voila prg rock 407494;1386222944;Vexual;heres a clip for those that prefer skaters givin lip than kittens 407495;1386223061;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xot0reBp2ec 407496;1386223061;ozbot;Ollie the Cat's Super Bowl 46 Prediction (Cat predicts Superbowl 2012) - YouTube 407497;1386223171;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.14999999 BTC [+] 407498;1386223206;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7t7yCA5XCZk 407499;1386223206;ozbot;Snoop Dogg - 03 Crazy - Blue Carpet Treatment - YouTube 407500;1386223248;KRS|gotyawallet;i listen to this sometimes when im deep in thought or trading 407501;1386223250;KRS|gotyawallet;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ukixviy1Wk 407502;1386223250;ozbot;Mams - You Can Fly - YouTube 407503;1386223379;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2VBcymnDC0 407504;1386223728;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvd71HyoNbk 407505;1386223728;ozbot;LEE SCRATCH PERRY e MAD PROFESSOR Mystic Warrior + Mystic Warrior Dub 1989 - YouTube 407506;1386223847;KRS|gotyawallet;badass lambo but anyone who knows anything about engines knows you dont rev it as soon as it starts, gotta let oil get up above the heads and what not 407507;1386223900;Vexual;never se em run, theyre like comets 407508;1386224011;Vexual;not much forums 407509;1386224269;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7850 @ 0.00080462 = 6.3163 BTC [-] 407510;1386224383;Vexual;mix it in dancehall people 407511;1386224402;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ED31_wRIGYg 407512;1386224403;ozbot;Classic VTEC Mini Cooper Beats Camero SS - YouTube 407513;1386224574;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 22 @ 0.14074795 = 3.0965 BTC [-] {7} 407514;1386224635;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.13551 = 0.542 BTC [-] {2} 407515;1386224636;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1495 @ 0.00286784 = 4.2874 BTC [-] {9} 407516;1386224818;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 600 @ 0.00270986 = 1.6259 BTC [-] {11} 407517;1386224892;KRS|gotyawallet;This Lee Perry joint is good 407518;1386224945;KRS|gotyawallet;Made me think of this 407519;1386224955;KRS|gotyawallet;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJVfPU87hws 407520;1386224955;ozbot;Buju banton murderer - YouTube 407521;1386225053;Vexual;are google ahead of thge curve or average? 407522;1386225247;Vexual;how do you answer more questions at once with less ears? 407523;1386225275;Vexual;5 chains 407524;1386225392;KRS|gotyawallet;i dun get it 407525;1386225474;Vexual;i chain is just one stream of data 407526;1386225481;KRS|gotyawallet;ok 407527;1386225499;Vexual;2chains is dna 407528;1386225515;KRS|gotyawallet;double helix 407529;1386225518;Vexual;5 chains is dna*human conciousness 407530;1386225525;KRS|gotyawallet;ah ok 407531;1386225532;KRS|gotyawallet;i didnt do enough acid yet to get there 407532;1386225556;KRS|gotyawallet;im close to that level of understanding though i dig 407533;1386225566;KRS|gotyawallet;i've been freed 407534;1386225579;Vexual;well i consider that peer reviewd 407535;1386225595;KRS|gotyawallet;cool 407536;1386225616;Vexual;id like to add the ga*pig bill 407537;1386225689;Vexual;hmm, on seconf thought 407538;1386225714;Vexual;theres not much evidence of any of that bullshit 407539;1386225777;KRS|gotyawallet;do you know what i mean by 'freed' 407540;1386225783;Vexual;ill just copy these photoshop macros into spss.. 407541;1386225816;KRS|gotyawallet;having been living in the framework that is presented to us and then understanding some things to achieve a higher level of conciousness and understanding 407542;1386225834;KRS|gotyawallet;not everyone makes it out 407543;1386225852;KRS|gotyawallet;sometimes referred to as lemmings 407544;1386225904;Vexual;yeah and comets 407545;1386225943;KRS|gotyawallet;a lot of drugs can get you there if intelligence doesnt..in my case it was good strong weed...others have used acid 407546;1386225958;Vexual;but have you ever SEEN a comet? 407547;1386225968;KRS|gotyawallet;yes it was hard to see 407548;1386225978;KRS|gotyawallet;haley's (sp?) comet back in the 80's 407549;1386226000;KRS|gotyawallet;whats that got to do with what i was talking about? also- some say comets seeded the universe with life 407550;1386226001;Vexual;yes well THAT one was in the newspaper, but.. 407551;1386226025;KRS|gotyawallet;i saw a satellite burn up in our atmosphere the other night it was amazing 407552;1386226025;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 407553;1386226036;Vexual;when you see one unexpectedly you use caps 407554;1386226083;Vexual;a satllite is 1m long 407555;1386226104;Vexual;when a big space rock hits the air, thats the shit 407556;1386226248;KRS|gotyawallet;fo sho...love that one that "hit" russia..although it didnt hit ground 407557;1386226251;Vexual;once a year touchdown? thats an asteroid belt babby! 407558;1386226253;KRS|gotyawallet;ever see videos from that 407559;1386226335;KRS|gotyawallet;my bad it wasnt a satellite i saw, it was the space-x rocket taking off 407560;1386226374;Vexual;watchign satellites if fun, but its the organic space shit you really wanna see 407561;1386226395;KRS|gotyawallet;yeah..its fun on a clear night to see how fast them satellites are going 407562;1386226434;KRS|gotyawallet;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYqh6_GLwU4 407563;1386226435;ozbot;Tasmin Archer - Sleeping Satellite (Single Version 1992) - YouTube 407564;1386226768;Vexual;now if you had a radr array in orbit that could see a long way in 360, thatd pay 407565;1386226839;Vexual;ir 2pir/infinity cubed 407566;1386226867;Vexual;a perfect sine wave on every plane. 407567;1386226876;Vexual;cant be dont 407568;1386226938;Vexual;ice nad rock spin differently 407569;1386227136;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18068 @ 0.00080296 = 14.5079 BTC [-] {2} 407570;1386227190;Vexual;good driver good sensor, 1au out 407571;1386227266;Vexual;youd need a computer like prism to record all the inputs 407572;1386227379;Vexual;yeah it pretty much boils down to looking for the reflection from the sun 407573;1386227380;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7550 @ 0.00080731 = 6.0952 BTC [+] 407574;1386227714;KRS|gotyawallet;i see you know a thing or two about physics 407575;1386227719;KRS|gotyawallet;are you an engineer? 407576;1386227742;KRS|gotyawallet;are are talking about spectral analysis? 407577;1386227749;KRS|gotyawallet;with a laser 407578;1386227806;Vexual;nope i just sell trust companies 407579;1386227820;Vexual;which are really just a priavte key with 1mbtc 407580;1386227982;KRS|gotyawallet;crazy that you know this stuff too 407581;1386227983;Vexual;i did an ipo for a phone bookj and a computer and a maserati 407582;1386228015;KRS|gotyawallet;haha thats awesome..a friend of mine used to trade securities and told me some good stories..a lot of them do coke 407583;1386228078;KRS|gotyawallet;i was mentioned on the management team for a $5BB ipo for submarine fiber optic cable..but it floundered. 407584;1386228102;Vexual;lol should had nemo on the case 407585;1386228202;KRS|gotyawallet;hah here it is http://www.fiberopticsonline.com/doc/nmdg-exec-reveals-strategy-for-5-billion-glob-0001 407586;1386228231;Vexual;theres money in submarine cable to be sure 407587;1386228239;KRS|gotyawallet;you better believe 407588;1386228246;Vexual;cunts need utube 407589;1386228272;KRS|gotyawallet;as an engineer i spec'd out a lot of the equipment and direcly showed them how we could increase density for increased capacity and a better financial forecast 407590;1386228294;Vexual;buy more shit 407591;1386228295;KRS|gotyawallet;they didnt deserve me =D 407592;1386228296;Vexual;? 407593;1386228327;KRS|gotyawallet;no actually they spec'd out more expensive shit and i showed them the lucent models that increases wavelength density by using better multiplexors that were cheaper 407594;1386228344;KRS|gotyawallet;and then came the broadband piece that added another hundred million or so in certain markets 407595;1386228355;KRS|gotyawallet;i was still in college 407596;1386228408;KRS|gotyawallet;i still "lived the life" so to speak with many of the execs 407597;1386228440;KRS|gotyawallet;good times 407598;1386228491;KRS|gotyawallet;"We're trying to get to 2.5 terabits or even higher [per cable]," 407599;1386228500;Vexual;i would have siad you were puffing muffins 407600;1386228514;KRS|gotyawallet;haha 407601;1386228540;Vexual;solder the yellow wire to pin 3 for me 407602;1386228549;KRS|gotyawallet;i know all that shit..dense wave division multiplexing 407603;1386228555;KRS|gotyawallet;its ez 407604;1386228574;Vexual;you're tripping 407605;1386228722;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 345 @ 0.002914 = 1.0053 BTC [-] 407606;1386228934;Vexual;upper management for you 407607;1386229003;Vexual;if off to look for comets 407608;1386229351;KRS|gotyawallet;heh ok have fun 407609;1386229362;KRS|gotyawallet;not a manager, im just an engineer 407610;1386230312;KRS|gotyawallet;eh- how bad is it if financial institutions in China are being banned for dealing in bitcoin 407611;1386230448;KRS|gotyawallet;Bloomberg.. 407612;1386230448;KRS|gotyawallet;Breaking News 407613;1386230448;KRS|gotyawallet;China PBOC Bans Financial Companies From Bitcoin Transactions 407614;1386230495;dexX7;uh oh 407615;1386230498;dexX7;that's not good? 407616;1386230549;Namworld;link? 407617;1386230558;dexX7;strange though in context of an earlier statement: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1r6rup/chinas_central_bank_peoples_bank_of_china_deputy/ 407618;1386230566;dexX7;Namworld: http://www.bloomberg.com/ 407619;1386230613;KRS|gotyawallet;http://www.fxstreet.com/news/fxbeat/article.aspx?storyid=3201a1a7-d13e-4e46-a664-93847d67bbd6 407620;1386230614;ozbot;China's PBOC: Bitcoin isn't currency with real meaning 407621;1386230622;KRS|gotyawallet;something tells me this isnt good at all 407622;1386230636;KRS|gotyawallet;might lose 30% market price over this 407623;1386230649;KRS|gotyawallet;they gonna dump! 407624;1386230671;Duffer1;ya wow 407625;1386230674;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9797 @ 0.00080747 = 7.9108 BTC [+] {2} 407626;1386230678;Namworld;I don't see the ban... 407627;1386230696;KRS|gotyawallet;Namworld huh? 407628;1386230702;Duffer1;all i see is a paywall :/ 407629;1386230719;KRS|gotyawallet;and you dont see them dumping over this? 407630;1386230721;dexX7;oh, it's gone from bloomberg.com 407631;1386230726;KRS|gotyawallet;paywall like what we have in the U.S.? 407632;1386230731;dexX7;there was a note on the top 407633;1386230745;Duffer1;paywall meaning i couldn't access the article you linked :P 407634;1386230750;KRS|gotyawallet;damn 407635;1386230769;Namworld;No, I mean there's no notice of any ban anywhere 407636;1386230778;dexX7;http://i.imgur.com/JImF8Vw.png mirror 407637;1386230782;KRS|gotyawallet;bloomberg had a "Breaking News" note 407638;1386230835;Namworld;That looks half-assed... 407639;1386230836;Duffer1;hmm 407640;1386230839;KRS|gotyawallet;China better not fuck this up for us 407641;1386230860;KRS|gotyawallet;front page of bloomberg had a note that said "Breaking News: China bans financial institutions from dealing in bitcoin" 407642;1386230863;KRS|gotyawallet;or something similar 407643;1386230869;dexX7;yea i saw it 407644;1386230885;dexX7;what exactly means "pdoc bans financial institutions from bitcoin transactions"? 407645;1386231024;chetty;PBOC:Public free to participate but they bear risks 407646;1386231070;KRS|gotyawallet;sounds like they dont want their financial institutions failing because of it 407647;1386231086;KRS|gotyawallet;they are sensitive about their currency 407648;1386231271;dexX7;http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pbc.gov.cn%2Fpublish%2Fgoutongjiaoliu%2F524%2F2013%2F20131205153156832222251%2F20131205153156832222251_.html&sandbox=1 407649;1386231284;dexX7;original: http://www.pbc.gov.cn/publish/goutongjiaoliu/524/2013/20131205153156832222251/20131205153156832222251_.html 407650;1386231615;Duffer1;such as not having sex with mandatory legal tender currency property 407651;1386231622;Duffer1;? 407652;1386231700;Duffer1;oh snap that's real 407653;1386231735;Duffer1;good find dexx7 407654;1386231749;dexX7;cya @ single digits :( 407655;1386231820;KRS|gotyawallet;o shit 407656;1386231924;dexX7;http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/12/05/china-bitcoin-idUSB9N0IQ02220131205 407657;1386231925;ozbot;China central bank warns banks against use of bitcoin 407658;1386232062;dexX7;what is unclear to me: do they suggest not to use bitcoin or do they prohibit it? 407659;1386232166;Duffer1;"At this stage, the financial institutions and payment institutions are not allowed to Bitcoin price for the product or service, may not be sold or traded as a central counterparty bitcoin" 407660;1386232183;Duffer1;hard to decipher that sentence 407661;1386232217;dexX7;the whole thing is hard to decipher for me :D 407662;1386232231;dexX7;is could mean "our banks are not allowed to price products in bitcoin" 407663;1386232237;dexX7;or "every company" 407664;1386232248;KRS|gotyawallet;this is bananas 407665;1386232382;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 73 @ 0.0030025 = 0.2192 BTC [+] 407666;1386232441;dexX7;LOL those fucks 407667;1386232444;dexX7;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1s5e2i/bitcoin_crashing_due_to_mtgox_hack/ 407668;1386232504;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34101001 BTC [-] 407669;1386232612;Namworld;"such as not having sex with mandatory legal tender currency property" 407670;1386232758;Namworld;Having sex with non-legal tender is dangerous. You could catch non-patriotism and other very nasty un-national diseases. Support the nation! 407671;1386232786;Namworld;However... 407672;1386232794;Namworld;"However, Bitcoin transaction as a commodity trading behavior on the Internet, ordinary people have the freedom to participate in the premise own risk." 407673;1386232825;Namworld;Chinese people are free to store value into Bitcoin it seems to say, at their own risk. 407674;1386232833;Namworld;So nothing changed... 407675;1386232847;Namworld;Needs better translation than google... 407676;1386232885;Duffer1;right but it always appears to say that businesses are warned against accepting it 407677;1386232890;Duffer1;always = also 407678;1386232989;KRS-;yeah they can jerk off with it without fiat 407679;1386233014;dexX7;well btcchina is crashing 407680;1386233025;KRS-;of course 407681;1386233026;dexX7;so it must be bad 407682;1386233036;KRS-;ya think 407683;1386233038;KRS-;=D 407684;1386233391;KRS-;Cheap Chinese coin get it while its hot! 407685;1386233517;KRS-;;;bids 1000 407686;1386233524;gribble;There are currently 3452.1426 bitcoins demanded at or over 1000.0 USD, worth 3555744.46885 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.1959 seconds 407687;1386233540;KRS-;christ a lot of people are gonna buy high 407688;1386233601;dexX7;;;goxlag 407689;1386233602;Namworld;Fuck, btcchina at 794 USD? 407690;1386233602;gribble;MtGox lag is 1129.882129 seconds. During this time, light travels 2.26427113573 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Ceres (in the main asteroid belt) (2.77 AU). 407691;1386233616;Namworld;Oh, must be why gox is still so high 407692;1386233620;dexX7;not sure.. last price i have is 6002 cny 407693;1386233632;dexX7;but seems like the ticker is dead 407694;1386233643;Namworld;mine shows 4839.58 407695;1386233646;dexX7;wtf 407696;1386233660;Namworld;Where are you looking? 407697;1386233662;dexX7;holy shit 407698;1386233675;dexX7;bitcoinwisdom and bitcoinity 407699;1386233687;dexX7;but i think you are right 407700;1386233700;dexX7;www.btcchina.com 407701;1386233716;dexX7;¥4,521.13 - ¥7,050.00 价格范围 407702;1386233769;Duffer1;is there a clarkmoody's for btcchina? 407703;1386233832;dexX7;http://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/btcchina/btccny 407704;1386233833;ozbot;BTCChina BTC/CNY Charts - BitcoinWisdom 407705;1386233849;dexX7;but there is no new data.. 407706;1386233861;Duffer1;oh nice i didn't realize btcw offered that 407707;1386233867;Duffer1;ah i see 407708;1386234094;KRS-;anyone have experience with this?? this could take a while? or should I ready my positions now? 407709;1386234126;Duffer1;looks like it's already rallying on btcchina, back up to 5900 407710;1386234128;kyle_torpey;its an irrational swing so who knows 407711;1386234175;dexX7; LTC/CNY went from 279 to 30 407712;1386234207;kyle_torpey;lol 407713;1386234552;Namworld;LTC/CNY no market depth 407714;1386234583;dexX7;hehe yea 407715;1386234931;dexX7;;;goxlag 407716;1386234932;gribble;Error: Problem retrieving gox lag. Try again later. 407717;1386234934;dexX7;lol 407718;1386235127;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 197 @ 0.0030025 = 0.5915 BTC [+] 407719;1386235227;KRS-;;;bids 1065 407720;1386235229;gribble;There are currently 0.06 bitcoins demanded at or over 1065.0 USD, worth 64.3540146 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0697 seconds 407721;1386235371;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 135 @ 0.0030159 = 0.4071 BTC [+] 407722;1386236954;jurov`;;;bc,stats 407723;1386236958;gribble;Current Blocks: 273170 | Current Difficulty: 7.074082830514966E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 274175 | Next Difficulty In: 1005 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 3 hours, 4 minutes, and 23 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 868366812.109 | Estimated Percent Change: 22.75327 407724;1386237291;KRS|gotyawallet;how significant is this for bitcoin in general? 407725;1386237306;KRS|gotyawallet;im worried other governments will follow 407726;1386237323;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 53 @ 0.33339714 = 17.67 BTC [-] {15} 407727;1386237390;jurov`;KRS|gotyawallet: wait for decent translation first 407728;1386237622;KRS|gotyawallet;right 407729;1386237736;dexX7;;;goxlag 407730;1386237737;gribble;MtGox lag is 20464018.5412 seconds. During this time, light travels 41009.6640301 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to heliopause (out of the solar system!) (100 AU). 407731;1386237845;dexX7;here is something new: http://finance.ifeng.com/a/20131205/11223093_0.shtml reddit says "it's good".. 407732;1386237869;dexX7;oh wait, it's the same text, sorry 407733;1386238031;dexX7;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1s5ckc/first_official_document_from_chinese_government/cdu381s 407734;1386238032;ozbot;furfighter comments on First OFFICIAL document from Chinese government (People's Back of China) abou 407735;1386238665;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2332 @ 0.00080662 = 1.881 BTC [-] 407736;1386238776;KRS|gotyawallet;if i do really well off this I'm going to go get FUCKED UP at the strip club. Bet that. 407737;1386238797;KRS|gotyawallet;might take 1 or 2 home with me 407738;1386238851;KRS|gotyawallet;Gox $914 407739;1386239275;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 38 @ 0.00301404 = 0.1145 BTC [-] {2} 407740;1386239702;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19850 @ 0.00080683 = 16.0156 BTC [+] {2} 407741;1386239805;KRS|gotyawallet;this is going to take hours to stabilize ya think? 407742;1386240922;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.14959999 = 0.5984 BTC [+] {2} 407743;1386240983;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.14999999 = 0.6 BTC [+] 407744;1386241044;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.14999999 = 0.3 BTC [+] 407745;1386241166;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.14999999 = 0.3 BTC [+] 407746;1386242020;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8080 @ 0.00080283 = 6.4869 BTC [-] {2} 407747;1386242081;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 58 @ 0.00301598 = 0.1749 BTC [+] {2} 407748;1386242320;davout;hello assets 407749;1386242691;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 35 @ 0.00324999 = 0.1137 BTC [-] 407750;1386242883;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves ghash.io is not run by bitfury, no 407751;1386242894;mircea_popescu;exactly in the sense the hash exchange wasn't run by pirate. 407752;1386242963;mircea_popescu;and for that matter, anyone can send hashing to ghash, it being a pool. 407753;1386242972;mircea_popescu;that you send some hashing their way means exactly nothing in any sense. 407754;1386243094;mircea_popescu;bloctoc the bot only quotes when it can get a datafeed. if it can't it doesn't quote, and its previous quotes expire 407755;1386243186;mircea_popescu;hello davout 407756;1386243249;mircea_popescu;usd 24h vwap 1023.03 7day vwap 1023.74. seems we're stabilizing. 407757;1386243939;ThickAsThieves;lol China is playing the FUD game now I see 407758;1386243948;ThickAsThieves;I wonder how many coins they are buying 407759;1386243997;thestringpuller;usd 24h vwap 1023.03 7day vwap 1023.74. << possibly a good time to underwrite options? 407760;1386244010;thestringpuller;sell deep puts to the bot lol 407761;1386244025;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves actually, the legislative strategy of the chinese governments ever since the days of confucius was, 407762;1386244040;mircea_popescu;make strong worded, vaguie proclamations. this will encourage they who do things they think are wrong to desist, 407763;1386244054;mircea_popescu;without forcing the bureaucracy to actually explain what is wrong and how to identify it. 407764;1386244063;thestringpuller;!ticker m s.mpoe 407765;1386244063;assbot;[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00079975 / 0.00080781 / 0.00081785 (177732 shares, 143.57 BTC), 7D: 0.00078278 / 0.00080056 / 0.0008476 (1566139 shares, 1,253.80 BTC), 30D: 0.0007725 / 0.0008174 / 0.00088996 (5865320 shares, 4,794.36 BTC) 407766;1386244110;ThickAsThieves;so I read this as banks and the general financial market cant play bitcoin, but everyone else can, including gox 407767;1386244122;mircea_popescu;iy 407768;1386244129;mircea_popescu;well, the govt kinda owns the banks 407769;1386244152;mircea_popescu;so it's really more like, if you make a loss trading bitcoin we'll shoot you. if you make a gain we'll maybe promote you, we'll see about that, don't bet on it. 407770;1386244166;ThickAsThieves;hehe 407771;1386244189;mircea_popescu;anyway, who knows. i don't trust my grasp of the chinese intricacies much. 407772;1386244201;mircea_popescu;unlike the us, these people have had over three thousand years to complicate things. 407773;1386244201;ThickAsThieves;nor google translate 407774;1386244218;ThickAsThieves;is there a "real" translation somewhere? 407775;1386244221;mircea_popescu;no i actually have people that speak the language peering at it for me. 407776;1386244224;mircea_popescu;this is a serious operation. 407777;1386244460;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 39 @ 0.00324999 = 0.1267 BTC [-] 407778;1386244554;ThickAsThieves;i dont understand what has even changed with this announcment 407779;1386244702;mircea_popescu;well, it specifies chinese banks are not to use bitcoin as a currency, as the chief point. 407780;1386244722;ThickAsThieves;were they? 407781;1386244731;mircea_popescu;which you know, kinda matches rthe fincen earlier report. bitcoin is, all the pretense of interested parties to the contrary, not a currency, 407782;1386244746;mircea_popescu;as ruled on trilema, oct 6 2012. 407783;1386244755;mircea_popescu;not afaik, no. 407784;1386244763;ThickAsThieves;what did you rule it, a commodity? 407785;1386244769;mircea_popescu;wow gold 407786;1386244773;ThickAsThieves;ah yes 407787;1386244784;mircea_popescu;anyway, some people were contemplating vehicles such as funds 407788;1386244804;ThickAsThieves;so this means the US will def approve the winklething 407789;1386244816;mircea_popescu;the chinese do have a serious problem, in the following sense : it's a highly competitive society, much more so than the us was in the 50s. people are very performance driven. 407790;1386244835;mircea_popescu;the economic situation is dire, the finances are in a mess. everyone is earnestly looking for ways to conserve capital values 407791;1386244877;mircea_popescu;had this pronouncement not been made, we could have ended up with a rush from chinese provincial authorities buying bitcoins and erecting miner farms 407792;1386244897;mircea_popescu;so if anything it's good, in that it balances out the govt battle, because the us (all its pretense to the contrary) could not have kept up. 407793;1386244923;mircea_popescu;in this sense it subtly strengthens bitcoin, because it's current value and recent explosion are both due to the little secret made public also on trilema, ie govts involved. 407794;1386244930;mircea_popescu;as long as there remains balance bitcoin will do ok. 407795;1386244977;ThickAsThieves;tldr CHEAP COINZ 407796;1386245086;mircea_popescu;more like, "the chinese central authorities are not exactly asleep, and picked the right course". 407797;1386245181;mircea_popescu;anyway, one point that is perhaps not directly obvious to foreigners is that china contains about 10mn people who have the authority to spend various amounts of public funds. 407798;1386245208;mircea_popescu;it's a strange mix between a command economy and a market economy, and managing it looks more like herding 10mn cats. 407799;1386245229;thestringpuller;that's a really good observation 407800;1386245255;thestringpuller;know what i'm sayin'? 407801;1386245260;mircea_popescu;:p 407802;1386245268;ThickAsThieves;easy to herd cats if you pavlov them with treats 407803;1386245281;ThickAsThieves;I can whistle and all my animals come to me 407804;1386245294;mircea_popescu;this is what they did so far. the problem is there's a finite bulk of treats, and they're trying to soft land it atm 407805;1386245352;thestringpuller;http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-09-21/chinas-ghost-cities-are-multiplying << so apparently the chinese like bubbles? 407806;1386245392;thestringpuller;http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2012/05/China%20Cement.jpg << this graph is kinda funny 407807;1386245436;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.3449 = 0.6898 BTC [+] 407808;1386245476;mircea_popescu;well more like can't easily avoid them 407809;1386245501;mircea_popescu;the westerners love bubbles, and they could EASILY avoid them 407810;1386245582;thestringpuller;don't you think the chinese would have learned after building the first ghost city that it doesn't work though? 407811;1386245592;thestringpuller;so couldn't they easily avoid the real estate bubble they are creating? 407812;1386245717;ThickAsThieves;;;ticker 407813;1386245718;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1044.00001, Best ask: 1046.9999, Bid-ask spread: 2.99989, Last trade: 1049.4, 24 hour volume: 47832.40001050, 24 hour low: 870.001, 24 hour high: 1240.0, 24 hour vwap: 1082.84601 407814;1386245731;ThickAsThieves;looks like US is still bullish 407815;1386245744;mircea_popescu;i doubt they went "o hey, know what'd be cool ? if we built a ghost city!" 407816;1386246097;mircea_popescu;thestringpuller http://trilema.com/2013/notorious-mp-layin-down-that-subliminal-shit-na-mean/#comment-96545 407817;1386246098;mircea_popescu;mwahah 407818;1386246107;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14150 @ 0.0007965 = 11.2705 BTC [-] 407819;1386246164;mircea_popescu;am i pretty fly for a white guy or what. 407820;1386246337;ThickAsThieves;ha! 407821;1386246477;ThickAsThieves;http://www.latribune.fr/actualites/economie/france/20131205trib000799423/la-banque-de-france-demonetise-le-bitcoin.html 407822;1386246483;ThickAsThieves;France singing along 407823;1386246525;mircea_popescu;my ring feels well kissed. 407824;1386246542;mircea_popescu;ESPECIALLY seeing all the intervening experts in their own head in the past 13 months opining on the topic as if they knew better. 407825;1386246821;ThickAsThieves;Have you heard of the " LOYAL3 Social IPO platform" 407826;1386246878;ThickAsThieves;my mom got this email from a large US Movie Theater corp: "To our AMC Stubs members, 407827;1386246878;ThickAsThieves;AMC Entertainment Holdings, Inc., the parent company for AMC Theatres, is going public. We are reserving a number of shares in our initial public stock offering (IPO) for you, our most loyal customers, to reserve on a first-come, first-serve basis. The price per share will be determined by negotiations between us and the underwriters of the IPO, but it will be the same price per share 407828;1386246878;ThickAsThieves;as offered to Wall Street investors. 407829;1386246878;ThickAsThieves;We will also give you the same 24-hour head start our employees will receive, in order to ensure you have the earliest opportunity to reserve shares at the offering price. While many companies depend on their customers' support every day, those customers don't always get the chance to own a piece of the action at the same price as Wall Street investors. We're offering this exclusive 407830;1386246878;ThickAsThieves;employee benefit to our AMC Stubs members to express our sincere gratitude for your loyalty. 407831;1386246878;ThickAsThieves;If this interests you, please click here to learn more. 407832;1386246878;ThickAsThieves;Please note that to execute this idea, we have opted to use the LOYAL3 Social IPO platform, an innovative new way to bring IPOs to market, where you can buy from $100 to $2,500 of our stock, and sell stock, with no fees. " 407833;1386246887;ThickAsThieves;sounds like something from the forums 407834;1386248010;Duffer1;i can't help but feel it's a pr stunt to drum up value to major investors 407835;1386248039;ThickAsThieves;its also a way to check the temperature 407836;1386248045;Duffer1;look even the proles get a piece, give us attention 407837;1386248050;ThickAsThieves;they ask you to contact them if interested 407838;1386248059;ThickAsThieves;this may give them some info on how people value it 407839;1386248072;ThickAsThieves;of course the people they are asking arent even the target audience for their stock... 407840;1386248136;Duffer1;i guess i shouldn't knock it until the amount of shares to be made available in this way is known, i'd be shocked if it was more than 2% of the company 407841;1386248173;ThickAsThieves;i'd be shocked if their Stubs holders and employees could afford 2% 407842;1386248200;Duffer1;mm good point 407843;1386248218;ThickAsThieves;tis an interesting email tho 407844;1386248241;ThickAsThieves;this China release explicitly explains that bitcoin is not money, but also explicitly states that bitcoin exchanges must use anti-"money" laundering measures 407845;1386248272;ThickAsThieves;i suppose fiat is the money in that case 407846;1386248275;ThickAsThieves;nvm 407847;1386248285;ThickAsThieves;a lil derpy this morning 407848;1386248305;ThickAsThieves;coffee time 407849;1386248605;mircea_popescu;sooo, i wake up, there's a turkey in the oven 407850;1386248616;mircea_popescu;i end up having stuffed turkey for breakfast with a few slices of camembert 407851;1386248628;mircea_popescu;this WORKS omg. davout you gotta try it. 407852;1386248766;ThickAsThieves;did you hear about the toejam cheese? 407853;1386248794;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves don't go trippin on the camembert yo 407854;1386248829;ThickAsThieves;while i dont eat cheese anymore, i always preferred the very sharp, hard stuff 407855;1386248862;ThickAsThieves;like mimolette 407856;1386248864;mircea_popescu;this was young, but it had possibly the finest velvet micelium i've yet seen. 407857;1386248889;mircea_popescu;why not eat cheese anyway ? it's what made us white folk smart enough to rule all the other races. 407858;1386248934;ThickAsThieves;well, i dont think you really want me to answer that 407859;1386248944;ThickAsThieves;like asking why am i vegan 407860;1386248949;ThickAsThieves;no one cares 407861;1386248973;mircea_popescu;just as long as it's not a youtube link 407862;1386248979;ThickAsThieves;haha 407863;1386248995;ThickAsThieves;the core of it for me is that i cherish life 407864;1386249000;ThickAsThieves;simplest way to put it 407865;1386249057;mircea_popescu;but life w/o camembert is scarcely life. if i offered you the deal of 200 year lifespans as long as you lived in a hamster ball weould you live in a hamster ball ? 407866;1386249098;ThickAsThieves;that's a much bigger question than cheese 407867;1386249100;ThickAsThieves;lol 407868;1386249127;ThickAsThieves;i have no idea if my brain could handle that lifestyle 407869;1386249143;ThickAsThieves;can people come into my ball? 407870;1386249154;mircea_popescu;nope. 407871;1386249158;mircea_popescu;they got germs yo 407872;1386249184;ThickAsThieves;while i require minimal social interaction, i know humans are social creatures 407873;1386249193;ThickAsThieves;so odds are i'd go nuts before 200 yrs 407874;1386249196;mircea_popescu;so you can wave at them through your transparent enclosure 407875;1386249200;mircea_popescu;and you can irc 407876;1386249210;ThickAsThieves;how do i IRC, voice recog? 407877;1386249229;ThickAsThieves;200 years on IRC hehe 407878;1386249266;mircea_popescu;no you got a kbd in your bubble 407879;1386249307;ThickAsThieves;is your point that cows live longer cuz we like their cheese? 407880;1386249313;ThickAsThieves;i think i missed something 407881;1386249387;mircea_popescu;my point is that generally speaking restrictive diets are unhealthy. i fail to see any diference between "i shall only eat mcchicken nuggets" and "i shall only eat asparagus". 407882;1386249398;mircea_popescu;not implying it's what you do, obviously. 407883;1386249420;ThickAsThieves;i never ate much meat to begin with 407884;1386249430;ThickAsThieves;cheese tho, yeah 407885;1386249446;ThickAsThieves;but i have no lack of access to fat 407886;1386249459;mircea_popescu;now, not feeling like some cheese is one thing, not feeling like cheese for two decades running is another, but not eating cheese because baby jesus disaproves ? 407887;1386249461;mircea_popescu;fuck baby jesus. 407888;1386249480;ThickAsThieves;its not religious 407889;1386249494;mircea_popescu;well my friend, how can you show that ? 407890;1386249499;ThickAsThieves;its more like how you dont wanna put a warning on bitbet 407891;1386249501;mircea_popescu;there's many religions. 407892;1386249542;ThickAsThieves;maybe over time the world is more like the one i idealize 407893;1386249558;mircea_popescu;you idealise a world without cheeze ?! 407894;1386249566;ThickAsThieves;no actually 407895;1386249573;ThickAsThieves;i'm okay with cheese in general 407896;1386249583;ThickAsThieves;but we cant seem to cheese responsibly 407897;1386249605;mircea_popescu;anyway, a good side discussion re the cheese that made us smart, see the other satoshi : http://unenumerated.blogspot.ro/2013/11/european-asian-divergence-predates.html 407898;1386249645;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.003014 = 0.1507 BTC [-] 407899;1386249646;ThickAsThieves;i suppose there is a pinch of spirituality in it too 407900;1386249654;ThickAsThieves;like if i come back as a cow 407901;1386249660;ThickAsThieves;lemme fukn graze 407902;1386249688;ThickAsThieves;dont put me in a box with tubes in all my holes 407903;1386249705;mircea_popescu;these cows grazed 407904;1386249721;ThickAsThieves;i can appreciate old-fashioned farm cows 407905;1386249734;ThickAsThieves;i can even appreciate eating said cow when its time if thats what you wanrt 407906;1386249739;jamespeerless;what kind of warning do you not want to put on bitnet? about usa laws? 407907;1386249748;mircea_popescu;http://www.lonelyplanet.com/france/normandy/activities/other/president-farm 407908;1386249754;mircea_popescu;you can actually go tour their farm 407909;1386249784;mircea_popescu;jamespeerless http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-12-2013#404449 407910;1386249786;mircea_popescu;a discussion there 407911;1386249804;jamespeerless;ah about snackman 407912;1386249806;jamespeerless;:P 407913;1386249828;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 3 @ 0.1685 = 0.5055 BTC [+] 407914;1386249888;mircea_popescu;basically al that does is bloat the ONE page. 407915;1386249894;mircea_popescu;you can't have everything be the first line. 407916;1386249901;ThickAsThieves;indeed 407917;1386249936;jamespeerless;yeah i don't think its needed at all 407918;1386249936;ThickAsThieves;i disagreed with your not warning people right til you pointed out that it was good training 407919;1386249942;mircea_popescu;people don't read page 2 so let's fuck up the flow of page 1 by smashing in there a bad summary of page 2 407920;1386249943;jamespeerless;read the faq's if you have a question 407921;1386249945;ThickAsThieves;and then i realized you are right 407922;1386249948;mircea_popescu;then even fewer people read even page 1 407923;1386249981;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves i;m more stating it plain for the benefit of the lurker than anything 407924;1386249984;jamespeerless;i guess you could maybe add a small warning on the receiving address page when they are about to send money only if there's less than X hours until close 407925;1386249993;mircea_popescu;jamespeerless how would you know ? 407926;1386250000;ThickAsThieves;being the pied piper of penny bitcoin shares has taught me much in this regard 407927;1386250012;ThickAsThieves;people need to fucking TRY to get info 407928;1386250020;mircea_popescu;;;google charles schmid 407929;1386250020;gribble;Charles Schmid - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Charles Schmid: The Pied Piper of Tucson — Secrets in the Sand ...: ; Pied Piper of Tucson: Twisted 1960s killings by Charles Howard ...: ; The Radiological Accident in Goiânia - Publications - International ...: ; Goiânia´s Legacy Two Decades On: 407968;1386250585;ThickAsThieves;amazing stuff that crazy even exists 407969;1386250585;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 407970;1386250588;ThickAsThieves;science! 407971;1386250621;mircea_popescu;anyway, the secret is just how tolerant of radiation the human body is. 407972;1386250631;mircea_popescu;in that case, out of hundreds of people exposed four died 407973;1386250691;ThickAsThieves;There he spread some of it on the cement floor. His six-year-old daughter, Leide das Neves Ferreira, later ate a sandwich while sitting on the floor. She was also fascinated by the blue glow of the powder, and applying it to her body, showed it off to her mother. Dust from the powder fell on the sandwich she was consuming; she eventually absorbed 1.0 GBq, total dose 6.0 Gy, which is 407974;1386250692;ThickAsThieves;roughly equal to 13 Sv, more than the fatal dose even with treatment. 407975;1386250719;deadweasel;/mode #bitcoin-assets -c 407976;1386250722;deadweasel;crap 407977;1386250729;deadweasel;webchat sucks 407978;1386250737;mod6;use irssi 407979;1386250755;deadweasel;i do 407980;1386250764;mod6;!? 407981;1386250772;deadweasel;my server is funny today, so I'm on webchat, trying to get it back up 407982;1386250774;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves can you picture that ? 407983;1386250778;deadweasel;hosed my networking, is dumb for a remote server 407984;1386250787;mod6;deadweasel: ah 407985;1386250790;ThickAsThieves;it's quite surreal 407986;1386251209;ThickAsThieves;"Seventh Company Ltd. evaluation has been made based on previous first and second rounds of investments by Havelock Investments Canadian Bitcoin based Fund Exchange during due diligence process and it is indeed a post-money valuation (not pre-money valuation!). But of course evaluation took into consideration total capital invested in the previous rounds by Angel investors and VC, as 407987;1386251209;ThickAsThieves;well as income and profit estimations. " 407988;1386251228;ThickAsThieves;this in response to me asking for explanation of valuation 407989;1386251258;ThickAsThieves;'post-money valuation' 407990;1386251264;mircea_popescu;whoever wrote that has significant experience as online tech support and no experience as a finance anything. 407991;1386251270;Apocalyptic;^^ 407992;1386251281;ThickAsThieves;lol 407993;1386251339;ThickAsThieves;please give me millions of $ so I can be worth millions of $ 407994;1386251348;ThickAsThieves;then you can be too! 407995;1386251384;ThickAsThieves;i started to ask him for actual list of assets 407996;1386251391;ThickAsThieves;but realized i'd be wasting my time 407997;1386251537;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16600 @ 0.00078114 = 12.9669 BTC [-] 407998;1386251572;mircea_popescu;well at least it's a collection of words... 407999;1386251680;Apocalyptic;ThickAsThieves, did topace himself wrote that ? 408000;1386251694;ThickAsThieves;i do not know 408001;1386251709;mircea_popescu;not unless he's now azn. 408002;1386251715;ThickAsThieves;i assume the quote is from the 7C guy 408003;1386251751;ThickAsThieves;and that james isnt intimitaly involved other than as dev team for HL 408004;1386251757;ThickAsThieves;but thats just a guess too 408005;1386251769;ThickAsThieves;intimately* 408006;1386251828;ThickAsThieves;i dont know who wrote the prospectus though 408007;1386251841;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.1499 = 0.2998 BTC [-] 408008;1386251874;ThickAsThieves;but even that document says it can change anything it says at anytime 408009;1386251879;ThickAsThieves;sooooo 408010;1386251905;mircea_popescu;people will eventually figure out the importance of being able to talk to the actual guy running the show and making the calls. 408011;1386251937;mircea_popescu;there's a reason mpex is mpex whereas all the labcoins out there consist of people talking tough but then upon on examination peeling away like onion skins 408012;1386252024;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.14995 BTC [+] 408013;1386252039;mircea_popescu;REP. BOB GOODLATTE (R-VA): Professor Turley, the constitution, the system of separated powers is not simply about stopping one branch of government from usurping another. It's about protecting the liberty of Americans from the dangers of concentrated government power. How does the president's unilateral modification of act of Congress affect both the balance of power between the political branches and the liberty inter 408014;1386252040;mircea_popescu;ests of the American people? 408015;1386252040;mircea_popescu;JONATHAN TURLEY: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The danger is quite severe. The problem with what the president is doing is that he's not simply posing a danger to the constitutional system. He's becoming the very danger the Constitution was designed to avoid. That is the concentration of power in every single branch. 408016;1386252044;mircea_popescu;o look, the us pot is cooking up. 408017;1386252088;ThickAsThieves;link? 408018;1386252090;davout;mircea_popescu: haha i will, you should try yesterdays sushi wrapped in the morning crepes, it does work too 408019;1386252106;mircea_popescu;sushi never gets to be yesterday's here. 408020;1386252109;mircea_popescu;i got catwomenz. 408021;1386252117;ThickAsThieves;got it 408022;1386252149;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves kinda circlejerking each other, obviously, but the stuff they have to say... 408023;1386252151;mircea_popescu;o nelly. 408024;1386252176;mircea_popescu;in other news : 408025;1386252176;mircea_popescu;Few studies have examined a direct causative effect between smoking marijuana and gynecomastia. A report in 1972 made the initial connection between cannabis and gynecomastia. 408026;1386252181;mircea_popescu;did you know manboobs come from pot ? 408027;1386252201;ThickAsThieves;well it messes with hormone levels 408028;1386252214;ThickAsThieves;but it also makes you fatter 408029;1386252216;ThickAsThieves;soo... 408030;1386252249;mircea_popescu;so can i have an m to the a to the n to the booooo-oooobs 408031;1386252968;ThickAsThieves;Good afternoon assbot 408032;1386253006;assbot; hi 408033;1386253185;mircea_popescu;http://shtfplan.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/major-stock-market-crash-in-january.gif 408034;1386253188;mircea_popescu;shit people come up with 408035;1386253720;topace;[08:53:31] ThickAsThieves, did topace himself wrote that ? 408036;1386253723;topace;^ i did not 408037;1386253742;topace;ThickAsThieves is correct, i have nothing to do with underwriting new listings any more 408038;1386253752;topace;and i questioned the valuation as well 408039;1386253771;mircea_popescu;topace get a signed statement to that effect, you never know when you need one. 408040;1386253859;topace;mircea_popescu: its all in the contracts we signed already 408041;1386253874;mircea_popescu;good thinking there. aite. 408042;1386254267;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16858 @ 0.00078889 = 13.2991 BTC [+] 408043;1386255011;Diablo-D3;+ticker 408044;1386255023;Diablo-D3;;;ticker 408045;1386255024;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1090.0, Best ask: 1099.0, Bid-ask spread: 9.00000, Last trade: 1099.0, 24 hour volume: 53856.39443812, 24 hour low: 870.001, 24 hour high: 1240.0, 24 hour vwap: 1079.57079 408046;1386255027;Diablo-D3;;;ticker --market coinbase 408047;1386255029;gribble;Coinbase BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1005.72, Best ask: 1028.26, Bid-ask spread: 22.54000, Last trade: 1016.03, 24 hour volume: None, 24 hour low: None, 24 hour high: None, 24 hour vwap: None 408048;1386255060;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MG] 5555 @ 0.000158 = 0.8777 BTC [+] 408049;1386255060;assbot;[MPEX] [S.NSA] 8888 @ 0.00015 = 1.3332 BTC [+] 408050;1386255095;mircea_popescu;In a sign of the times, whistleblowers who help bust illegal gold shipments can get a bigger reward in India than those who help catch cocaine and heroin smugglers. 408051;1386255121;assbot;[MPEX] [S.BBET] 493 @ 0.0006499 = 0.3204 BTC [+] 408052;1386255358;kleeck_;http://i.imgur.com/wiygh0o.jpg 408053;1386255384;ThickAsThieves;Can 7C compete? http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/4/5175786/jane-austen-mmo-gets-funding-promises-18th-century-delights 408054;1386255426;ThickAsThieves;two brains, no fair 408055;1386255534;ThickAsThieves;"while traditional MMOs have epic raids, we have extravagant balls" 408056;1386255539;ThickAsThieves;hahaha 408057;1386255590;kleeck_;LOL 408058;1386255591;kleeck_;No way. 408059;1386255594;kleeck_;That's a REAL quote? 408060;1386255597;ThickAsThieves;yep 408061;1386255601;ThickAsThieves;watch the vid 408062;1386255608;ThickAsThieves;a woman quotes some real gems 408063;1386255613;kleeck_;I WANT TO BE THE BELL OF THE BALL! 408064;1386255650;kleeck_;" various game scenarios like dinner parties" 408065;1386255652;kleeck_;ROFL 408066;1386255700;kleeck_;What will guilds be called? "Knitting Clubs"? 408067;1386255739;kleeck_;"Unlike many multi-player games, it's not about kill or be killed but invite or be invited. Gossip is our weapon of choice. Instead of raids, we will have grand balls. Instead of dungeons, we will have dinner parties." 408068;1386255741;ThickAsThieves;Biggest Balls Guild 408069;1386255749;kleeck_;I cannot wait until 4Chan picks this up as a target. 408070;1386255766;pankkake;so it's a mmorpg for little girls? 408071;1386255769;pankkake;haha, yeah 408072;1386255774;kleeck_;And grandmothers, apparently. 408073;1386255809;kleeck_;"Did you hear? xxKILLERSLUTxx didn't get an invite to the King's Ball!" *GASP!* 408074;1386255842;ThickAsThieves;where's my Google Glass invite 408075;1386255865;ThickAsThieves;are people giving away codes anywhere? 408076;1386255994;mircea_popescu;this is one of those things that sounds good on paper and then goes nowhere. 408077;1386256019;mircea_popescu;well... this doesn't sound that good on paper, either. 408078;1386256069;pankkake;what, having a 24/7 spycam streaming to the NSA? 408079;1386256099;pankkake;though I'd like to try the eye thing. and know what optometrists think about it 408080;1386256138;pankkake;having some sort of permanent HUD would be great 408081;1386256231;davout;just put it on when you fuck some bitches to get the NSA guys all hard 408082;1386256476;kakobrekla;ok so i just made a cup of this ethiopian coffee you assets scammed me into buying 408083;1386256491;kakobrekla;its not bad, but nothing special so far, maybe the dosage is a bit off 408084;1386256547;kakobrekla;a bit like romanian beer 408085;1386256548;asciilifeform;monocle displays are terrible. 408086;1386256601;asciilifeform;i own one - http://www.loper-os.org/vintage/paralleleye/eye.html - (1989! and higher res than virtually all modern 'consumer' ones) but 15 minutes, and then headache. 408087;1386256625;ThickAsThieves;the codes are cheap on ebay i see 408088;1386256646;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.14995 BTC [+] 408089;1386256654;kakobrekla;what do you do with the code then 408090;1386256665;ThickAsThieves;you buy a pair 408091;1386256675;ThickAsThieves;and you are then part of the Explorer program 408092;1386256676;kakobrekla;so you buy a code with which you can buy a pair 408093;1386256689;kakobrekla;is there a code i must buy to buy the code? 408094;1386256692;ThickAsThieves;which lets you get replacements and upgrades 408095;1386256694;pankkake;well it also must depend on people. I know I am very subject to weird stuff in my eyes. can't do that 3D shit or even images moving randomly 408096;1386256697;jurov`;why pair? they make lefthanded version too? 408097;1386256714;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla romanian beer is not bad ?! 408098;1386256719;kakobrekla;i just thoguht , .. pair of eyes ... 408099;1386256727;kakobrekla;shit. 408100;1386256740;ThickAsThieves;3D bugs me too, but for some reason it was fine for me during a recent thor viewing 408101;1386256748;kakobrekla;just a bit watery 408102;1386256768;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 80 @ 0.0029 = 0.232 BTC [+] 408103;1386256786;kakobrekla;is not bad no. 408104;1386256795;mircea_popescu;a hey. i thought it's kinda meh 408105;1386256809;ThickAsThieves;what style beer do romanians do? 408106;1386256834;pankkake;well, those things will be a goldmine for orthoptists 408107;1386256875;kakobrekla;im not beer expert , but i had a lot of different ones 408108;1386256894;kakobrekla;the last one i had was in romania actually 408109;1386256982;mircea_popescu;i dunno really, i never drink the stuff 408110;1386257204;jurov`;http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/12/scientist-developed-malware-covertly-jumps-air-gaps-using-inaudible-sound/ 408111;1386257204;ozbot;Scientist-developed malware prototype covertly jumps air gaps using inaudible sound | Ars Technica 408112;1386257285;jurov`;i'm sticking to my rpi for airgapping purposes 408113;1386257309;asciilifeform;the same rpi with a MB of closed source blob running on dedicated core? 408114;1386257322;mircea_popescu;communicated != jumps 408115;1386257325;jurov`;what's the blob gonna do? 408116;1386257334;mircea_popescu;this is a sophomore project, build audio relay. 408117;1386257349;asciilifeform;seems like nobody ever heard of... modem. 408118;1386257371;mircea_popescu;well not the kids of today, no. 408119;1386257381;mircea_popescu;i used to get my first torrents off tv, yo. 408120;1386257385;jurov`;well everyone was "hurr durr aint use ultrasound, there are filters" 408121;1386257396;mircea_popescu;jurov` that part yeah 408122;1386257411;asciilifeform;the phun part is that you needn't use ultrasound. 408123;1386257420;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/a-simple-example-as-to-why-fiat-institutions-cant-stand/ << me being a bitch. 408124;1386257421;ozbot;A simple example as to why fiat institutions can’t stand pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 408125;1386257426;asciilifeform;high-res, stable oscillators in modern machines let you pull, say, the following trick: 408126;1386257448;asciilifeform;'click' sound to start counter; next 'click' - value of counter is transmitted word. 408127;1386257459;asciilifeform;(with heavy error-correction, naturally.) 408128;1386257469;asciilifeform;no ultrasound, and still pretty good bandwidth. 408129;1386257522;mircea_popescu;you could make a crickets app and nobody'd ever know 408130;1386257544;jurov`;or use modulation that sounds like white noise 408131;1386257584;asciilifeform;and, the grand prize: say the victim owns a fleet of PCs which pick up interference somewhere in the 25-300MHz range. 408132;1386257591;asciilifeform;then, transmitter using... displays. 408133;1386257633;asciilifeform;(example: http://xtrmntr.org/priikone/programs/tempest-AM-README) 408134;1386257704;ThickAsThieves;so will noise cancellation be a future security feature? 408135;1386257722;ThickAsThieves;they already have good grasp of doing it 408136;1386257725;jurov`;that falls under RF compatibility 408137;1386257730;ThickAsThieves;for things like headphones and such 408138;1386257741;jurov`;but everyone cheats to meet rf norms 408139;1386257755;jurov`;cuz it's expensive to do it right 408140;1386257764;asciilifeform;actually, noise cancellation circuit, given that it emits sound, makes a great side channel. 408141;1386257777;asciilifeform;not to mention that you can craft periodic signals that the canceller will actually amplify. 408142;1386257803;ThickAsThieves;oh well 408143;1386257805;pankkake;just listen to merzbow and you'll be safe 408144;1386257814;asciilifeform;also you needn't a speaker to produce sound. 408145;1386257826;asciilifeform;i have several laptops where i can hear the cpu easily enough 408146;1386257837;nubbins`;nod re: canceller amplifying 408147;1386257839;asciilifeform;why? inductor buzz in the power supply circuit 408148;1386257850;nubbins`;noise cancellation ain't great for unexpected signals 408149;1386257860;kakobrekla;common on GPUs 408150;1386257862;nubbins`;useless really 408151;1386257884;jurov`;just demand proper RF compatibility, as used in TV studios 408152;1386257895;asciilifeform;nubbins`: naturally you can't decode individual instructions from the buzz - but you can modulate it if desired 408153;1386257896;jurov`;you just have to pay 100x more for stuff 408154;1386257897;pankkake;also you can control the fan of GPUs easily 408155;1386257899;ThickAsThieves;as a wanna-be audiophile i dont trust noise cancellation not to fuck up the sound anyway 408156;1386257901;nubbins`;nod 408157;1386257904;asciilifeform;pankkake: nothing to do with the fan 408158;1386257919;pankkake;just saying it's another source of communication 408159;1386257927;nubbins`;all noise cancellation is 408160;1386257944;nubbins`;is a mic and a circuit that precisely inverts the sound coming into the mic 408161;1386257950;ThickAsThieves;yep 408162;1386257960;nubbins`;great if you're on an airplane 408163;1386257967;nubbins`;useless if you're seated next to a shrieking baby 408164;1386257975;asciilifeform;nubbins`: not quite. there's a delay loop in there. thinkaboutit. 408165;1386257987;ThickAsThieves;hehe 408166;1386257988;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 2 @ 0.05499999 = 0.11 BTC [-] 408167;1386257990;asciilifeform;speed of sound being finite. 408168;1386257992;nubbins`;ah, i suppose, yeah 408169;1386258030;nubbins`;i just figured they used tungsten wires to carry the signal ;) 408170;1386258171;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17630 @ 0.00078219 = 13.79 BTC [-] 408171;1386258262;nubbins`;amagi metals: "The bad news is that there is a huge snow storm that hit us here in Denver, so there may be some shipping delays from FedEx and USPS after we get your orders out." 408172;1386258272;nubbins`;somebody mentioned yesterday about -18F in denver? 408173;1386258524;asciilifeform;from the crackpot brigade: https://likeinamirror.wordpress.com/2013/12/01/satoshi-nakamoto-is-probably-nick-szabo/ 408174;1386258666;nubbins`;from the crack brigade: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/rob-ford-documents-8-revelations-from-wiretap-evidence-1.2451620 408175;1386258694;assbot;Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1493880/plain/) 408176;1386258694;mircea_popescu;!b 2 408177;1386258695;mircea_popescu;lol 408178;1386258717;mircea_popescu;nubbins` somebody was me. 408179;1386258725;nubbins`;ah yes indeed 408180;1386258732;mircea_popescu;i am the keeper of the aforeknowledges 408181;1386258738;nubbins`;no doubt their silver rounds are snapping in half down there 408182;1386258749;nubbins`;and their marihuana cigarettes will not stay lit 408183;1386258753;mircea_popescu;lol 408184;1386258779;nubbins`;and their uh 408185;1386258787;nubbins`;has hockey started yet? those guys are probably fine 408186;1386258937;ThickAsThieves;why is Ford's brotherly relationship news? 408187;1386258945;ThickAsThieves;he's an emotional scammer? 408188;1386258961;nubbins`;he's a toronto city councillor 408189;1386258983;nubbins`;yes, that's right, the fine folks of toronto voted two idiot brothers into office 408190;1386259031;ThickAsThieves;but who cares if they arm wrestle? 408191;1386259040;nubbins`;ah, nobody, i suppose 408192;1386259056;nubbins`;i think the point being made is that they always support each other 408193;1386259069;nubbins`;except for that one time when doug was mad at rob 408194;1386259079;nubbins`;around the time he was accused of smoking crack 408195;1386259093;nubbins`;the implication being that doug knew it was true, and was quite upset 408196;1386259096;mircea_popescu;in other news, we've managed to baffle greenspan 408197;1386259124;nubbins`;ah, he's had his gunwales padded? 408198;1386259133;nubbins`;wait, sorry, no. other baffle. 408199;1386259144;mircea_popescu;"I do not understand where the backing of Bitcoin is coming from. There is no fundamental means of "repaying' it by any means that is universally accepted." 408200;1386259151;pankkake;yeah, he said bitcoin isn't backed by anything! 408201;1386259160;pankkake;who would ever use such a currency! 408202;1386259172;ThickAsThieves;lol 408203;1386259174;ThickAsThieves;http://www.loper-os.org/?p=752 408204;1386259175;ozbot;Loper OS » For Your Eyes Only 408205;1386259177;asciilifeform;'sure, this carriage is horseless, but where are the reins? gotta be somewhere.' 408206;1386259180;ThickAsThieves;i like that story 408207;1386259183;mircea_popescu;"I haven't been able to identfy the intrinsic value of Bitcoin - maybe someone else can... 408208;1386259183;mircea_popescu;but if you ask me if this is a bubble in bitcoin... yeah it's a bubble. 408209;1386259191;mircea_popescu;the funny part is... bernanke just said gold is a bubble 408210;1386259194;mircea_popescu;for about the same reasons. 408211;1386259223;ThickAsThieves;so he says I dunno wtf is going on, but lemme tell ya, it's def a bubble 408212;1386259236;mircea_popescu;my take home ios that it sucks having kids. because if you have kids then you have to find employment, which transforms you into bernanke. and then you grow old, which makes you greenspan. 408213;1386259239;mircea_popescu;i'd rather not be stupid. 408214;1386259269;ThickAsThieves;but how will your vision for the world be achieved once you pass? 408215;1386259278;ThickAsThieves;need more little mirceas 408216;1386259286;mircea_popescu;for what purpose ? 408217;1386259303;ThickAsThieves;posthumous revenge? 408218;1386259312;mircea_popescu;well... inasmuch as i didn't make the original one, 408219;1386259317;pankkake;I don't think he acknowledges his mortality 408220;1386259318;mircea_popescu;go ahead and make more little mirceas 408221;1386259330;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.0029 = 0.58 BTC [+] 408222;1386259336;nubbins`;"To read about all those other people you’ve got to buy the Professional version or even the Enterprise Edition." 408223;1386259344;ThickAsThieves;hehe 408224;1386259347;mircea_popescu;pankkake i just don't acknowledge the relevance of the world past that point. 408225;1386259368;ThickAsThieves;until you are reborn a milk cow in the US ;) 408226;1386259377;asciilifeform;nubbins`: the author of that piece did turn up eventually. 408227;1386259385;mircea_popescu;maybe i'm reborn a mastiff on a porn set in california. 408228;1386259395;mircea_popescu;named Ma Stiff. 408229;1386259440;nubbins`;no relation to Ma Barker: http://missouriwomen.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/bloody-mama-1970_imagelarge.jpg 408230;1386259446;mircea_popescu;:D 408231;1386259459;mircea_popescu;i like it when people catch on vague maladroit references i make 408232;1386259479;nubbins`;any sharper and i'd cut myself 408233;1386259544;nubbins`;http://www.ebay.ca/itm/2013-0-5-BTC-Brass-Casascius-Physical-Bitcoin-REDEEMED-/331076143888?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item4d15ad0b10&_uhb=1 408234;1386259545;ozbot;2013 0 5 BTC Brass Casascius Physical Bitcoin Redeemed | eBay 408235;1386259547;nubbins`;7 hours to go 408236;1386259568;jurov`;gpg signed, sent back under same name 408237;1386259572;mircea_popescu;ouch 408238;1386259578;jurov`;filthy racist nao 408239;1386259584;ThickAsThieves;hahaha 408240;1386259587;mircea_popescu;that was perhaps not the best move. 408241;1386259601;nubbins`;ahahahahahahahahahaha 408242;1386259616;mircea_popescu;if they get pissed off it's one thing, but what if 408243;1386259622;nubbins`;"what's this niggers.asc in our network drive?" 408244;1386259626;mircea_popescu;they really like it and ivnite you to weird aryan union events 408245;1386259654;nubbins`;ah, this raises a point 408246;1386259663;nubbins`;i should really back up my pgp keys and put them somewhere safe 408247;1386259665;kakobrekla;what lol 140$ for a piece of brass 408248;1386259672;nubbins`;kakobrekla: i know, rite? 408249;1386259678;kakobrekla;at least it isnt 3btc like mp paid! 408250;1386259687;thestringpuller;lolololol 408251;1386259687;pankkake;someone should make chocolate bitcoins 408252;1386259695;nubbins`;well maybe i should glue it to a cufflink. 408253;1386259700;nubbins`;pankkake: it's been done 408254;1386259701;mircea_popescu;lol 408255;1386259708;mircea_popescu;make it into a prince albert. 408256;1386259713;nubbins`;http://www.ebay.ca/itm/3-Bitcoin-Chocolate-Gold-Foil-Coins-NO-BTC-VALUE-Casascius-1-Liberty-Coin-Bonus-/281218761544?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4179f1c348&_uhb=1 408257;1386259714;ozbot;3 Bitcoin Chocolate Gold Foil Coins NO BTC Value Casascius $1 Liberty Coin Bonus | eBay 408258;1386259716;nubbins`;haha 408259;1386259720;nubbins`;bitcoin PA ring 408260;1386259721;mircea_popescu;omfg, i have the best idea ever! 408261;1386259727;nubbins`;"what 408262;1386259731;nubbins`;'s backing this?" 408263;1386259733;mircea_popescu;make little btc addresses and put them into lolipops 408264;1386259735;mircea_popescu;sell the lolis 408265;1386259737;mircea_popescu;for btc. 408266;1386259737;nubbins`;"200 pounds of muscle and sinew" 408267;1386259737;ThickAsThieves;bitcoin pasties? 408268;1386259738;kakobrekla;i got a few of those 1 btc ones empty and full, maybe its time for the market to have em 408269;1386259745;mircea_popescu;you can win anywhere between 0.001 and 1 btc 408270;1386259751;mircea_popescu;the thing sells for 0.01 or we 408271;1386259758;nubbins`;kako, the going rate seems to be 140-160usd, regardless of denomination 408272;1386259766;kakobrekla;hm 408273;1386259772;kakobrekla;i better wait till cas dude is in jail 408274;1386259776;kakobrekla;they will go for 1600 then 408275;1386259779;mircea_popescu;good idea. 408276;1386259784;nubbins`;ah, i don't think he's gonna go to jail 408277;1386259787;ThickAsThieves;mp will your lollipop factory be all nude women to prevent theft? 408278;1386259793;nubbins`;just get the clampers put on his biz 408279;1386259807;nubbins`;ThickAsThieves: the canadian mint does this 408280;1386259819;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves well... women may be inadequate. nude 12yos ? 408281;1386259835;ThickAsThieves;better staff a dentist 408282;1386259841;mircea_popescu;btcloli 408283;1386259849;nubbins`;you can't let people with teeth into the building 408284;1386259852;mircea_popescu;taking puns to new highs/lows. 408285;1386259855;pankkake;nude diabetics. if they lick they die? 408286;1386259858;ThickAsThieves;LOLipops 408287;1386259890;nubbins`;kakobrekla: which full ones do you have? 408288;1386259900;kakobrekla;dunno 408289;1386259901;kakobrekla;1 btc 408290;1386259920;kakobrekla;they are of golden color 408291;1386259927;nubbins`;year? 408292;1386259931;kakobrekla;but 100% brass guaranteed! 408293;1386259939;nubbins`;.999 fine brass 408294;1386259946;kakobrekla;ok ok 408295;1386259970;kakobrekla;oh and one is also silver 408296;1386259980;kakobrekla;5 btc empty 408297;1386259988;kakobrekla;i bought them empty 408298;1386259990;nubbins`;ah 408299;1386259999;nubbins`;i'd like an empty 5 ;( 408300;1386260008;kakobrekla;the full one is 2012 408301;1386260029;kakobrekla;if that means anything 408302;1386260044;nubbins`;not a remarkable coin 408303;1386260050;kakobrekla;FUCK YOU 408304;1386260057;nubbins`;heh! 408305;1386260066;mircea_popescu;lol i see trade is proceeding well 408306;1386260073;nubbins`;i'll give ya 0.03 for the 5 408307;1386260092;kakobrekla;that like 3 bucks or something 408308;1386260095;nubbins`;30! 408309;1386260106;kakobrekla;yeah like i said, 3 408310;1386260127;nubbins`;trailing zeroes are significant :( 408311;1386260136;kakobrekla;im going to trade them for buttcoin pic 408312;1386260142;kakobrekla;any takers? 408313;1386260142;nubbins`;oof, not w/ me 408314;1386260182;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla make it wives and girlfriends only 408315;1386260188;mircea_popescu;the buttcoin wags club 408316;1386260192;kakobrekla;:D 408317;1386260302;ll;lol this chan is awesome 408318;1386260310;nubbins`;^ 408319;1386260312;assbot;Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1493908/plain/) 408320;1386260312;mircea_popescu;!b 2 408321;1386260425;nubbins`;sometimes i wonder about my cat 408322;1386260426;nubbins`;http://imgur.com/8gp0nzq 408323;1386260426;ozbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 408324;1386260431;ThickAsThieves;did the Gold bitbets score any donations? 408325;1386260459;ThickAsThieves;the cat needs a sleep mask 408326;1386260474;kakobrekla;you see where paying dividends brings you to.... 408327;1386260483;mircea_popescu;;p; 408328;1386260484;nubbins`;she does 408329;1386260501;ThickAsThieves;i'm just interested kako 408330;1386260520;ThickAsThieves;for the drama 408331;1386260526;kakobrekla;i dont know 408332;1386260533;kakobrekla;lets see if the forum heats up 408333;1386260545;nubbins`;http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-12-05/china-s-pboc-bans-financial-companies-from-bitcoin-transactions.html 408334;1386260545;ozbot;China Bans Financial Companies From Bitcoin Transactions - Bloomberg 408335;1386260548;jurov`;shat's gold bitbets? 408336;1386260552;jurov`;*what 408337;1386260590;ThickAsThieves;nubbins you missed the great crash Dec 5th, 2013 408338;1386260593;ThickAsThieves;of 408339;1386260673;mircea_popescu;jurov` the gold vs btc price bet 408340;1386260715;kakobrekla;anyway wouldnt publishing such info prematurely be sketchy 408341;1386260723;kakobrekla;what if the late bet was 24 mio btc 408342;1386260729;kakobrekla;everyone on this chan would buy bbet 408343;1386260737;mircea_popescu;with ltc 408344;1386260750;kakobrekla;heh 408345;1386260757;ThickAsThieves;i suppose 408346;1386260760;ThickAsThieves;i can wait 408347;1386260764;ThickAsThieves;if there's drama 408348;1386260767;ThickAsThieves;itll find you 408349;1386260819;mircea_popescu;drama is hard to get these days 408350;1386260822;mircea_popescu;diff is insane. 408351;1386260877;nubbins`;tat, guess i slept through it 408352;1386261975;nubbins`;huh 408353;1386261977;nubbins`;https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=COG.F 408354;1386261984;nubbins`;https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=COG.F2 408355;1386262002;ThickAsThieves;sigh 408356;1386262025;nubbins`;http://www.recognizethisblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/floodgates.jpg 408357;1386262118;ll;hmm whats the KENXPL one 408358;1386262149;ThickAsThieves;hmm 408359;1386262154;Korbman;odd 408360;1386262162;ThickAsThieves;didnt even bother with a description on that one :) 408361;1386262164;nubbins`;ah 408362;1386262166;nubbins`;kenilworth 408363;1386262182;ThickAsThieves;word 408364;1386262184;nubbins`;some sort of diamondcoin mining operation 408365;1386262185;nubbins`;;p 408366;1386262186;Korbman;lol pull labcoin, add kenilworth 408367;1386262189;Korbman;:P 408368;1386262195;ThickAsThieves;haha 408369;1386262199;nubbins`;labcoin is still there :P 408370;1386262203;Korbman;for now 408371;1386262210;nubbins`;market cap 3 btc 408372;1386262370;dexX7;;;buy 80000 usd 408373;1386262370;gribble;(buy [--long] [at|@] []) -- Logs a buy order for units of , at a price of per unit, in units of . Use the optional field to put in any special notes. may include an arithmetical expression, and {(mtgox|bitstamp)(ask|bid|last|high|low|avg)} to index price to mtgox ask, bid, last, high, (1 more message) 408374;1386262396;dexX7;:( 408375;1386262399;ThickAsThieves;;;market buy 80000 408376;1386262399;gribble;This order would exceed the size of the order book. You would buy 26053.649 bitcoins, for a total of 344391906.6772 USD and take the price to 1000000000.0000. | Data vintage: 112.7465 seconds 408377;1386262414;ThickAsThieves;;;market buy 80 408378;1386262414;gribble;A market order to buy 80 bitcoins right now would take 86200.7744 USD and would take the last price up to 1085.9990 USD, resulting in an average price of 1077.5097 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 128.2626 seconds 408379;1386262425;ThickAsThieves;close enough :) 408380;1386262431;dexX7;yup, thanks :) 408381;1386262448;ThickAsThieves;;;market buy 80 usd 408382;1386262448;gribble;(market buy [--usd] [--market ] ) -- Calculate the effect on the market depth of a market buy order of bitcoins. If is provided, uses that exchange. Default is mtgox. If '--usd' option is given, denotes the size of the order in USD. 408383;1386262453;nubbins`;http://www.businessinsider.com/baml-initiates-coverage-on-bitcoin-2013-12 408384;1386262454;ozbot;BAML Initiates Coverage On Bitcoin - Business Insider 408385;1386262457;TomServo;so close! :) 408386;1386262467;ThickAsThieves;;;market buy --usd 80000 408387;1386262468;gribble;A market order to buy 80000.0000 USD worth of bitcoins right now would buy 74.290258 bitcoins and would take the last price up to 1085.9990 USD, resulting in an average price of 1076.8572 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 181.6505 seconds 408388;1386262473;ThickAsThieves;there it is 408389;1386262490;dexX7;ah 408390;1386262555;ThickAsThieves;"our fair value analysis implies a maximum market capitalization of Bitcoin of $15bn" 408391;1386262569;ThickAsThieves;would love to see that report 408392;1386262624;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34479998 BTC [-] 408393;1386262709;jamespeerless;its already basically at 15bn? 408394;1386262714;jamespeerless;so they're claiming this is the max? 408395;1386262721;nubbins`;more or less 408396;1386262724;nubbins`;they said $1300 408397;1386262742;nubbins`;"Breaking: Largest, most authoritarian government in the world manages to slightly inconvenience Bitcoin for an hour or so." 408398;1386262788;ThickAsThieves;jamespeerless, the article basically says "We intend to buy bitcoins, please don't rally til we have." 408399;1386262795;jamespeerless;:P 408400;1386262898;ThickAsThieves;a commenter: "If you found this article useful, please donate BtC (preferably before they become even more worthless). 1HjVaQegDCoDrGgW" 408401;1386262911;nubbins`;BtC 408402;1386262920;ThickAsThieves;bit the coin 408403;1386262929;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33299795 BTC [-] 408404;1386262934;dexX7;ThickAsThieves: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-12-05/bofaml-sees-bitcoin-fair-value-1300 here are some parts of the report 408405;1386262949;kakobrekla;you know what "bit coin" means in slovenian 408406;1386262958;kakobrekla;to be a horse. 408407;1386262990;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33299795 BTC [-] 408408;1386263012;pankkake;a coin backed by horses would work wonders in romania 408409;1386263017;ThickAsThieves;well the report already is retarded 408410;1386263029;ThickAsThieves;it starts with US usage stats 408411;1386263065;ThickAsThieves;US personal consumption expenditures totaled $11trn in 2012 408412;1386263065;ThickAsThieves;Household checking deposits and cash totaled $0.7trn in 2012 408413;1386263065;ThickAsThieves;Dividing the former by the latter, we get 0.07 (which we will refer to as velocity from now on) 408414;1386263067;pankkake;"Given Bitcoin does not pay any interest and that there are no investment instruments (equities or bonds) that are denominated in Bitcoin" 408415;1386263091;ThickAsThieves;cause i closed XBOND, sorry Wall St 408416;1386263188;ThickAsThieves;"We don’t have an informed view on this subject..." 408417;1386263191;ThickAsThieves;that's better 408418;1386263209;ThickAsThieves;(taken a bit out of context) 408419;1386263238;KRS|gotyawallet;The horses backed coin would work equally as well in Somalia and Croatia. 408420;1386263251;ThickAsThieves;"Bottom-line: maximum market capitalization for Bitcoin’s as a store of value = $5bn" 408421;1386263265;dexX7;it all seems random 408422;1386263278;ThickAsThieves;i guess they gotta start somewhere 408423;1386263287;ThickAsThieves;now some other firm can be like nah, here's a better way 408424;1386263293;dexX7;true 408425;1386263328;ThickAsThieves;the irony being that fair market value is so easy to find 408426;1386263328;nubbins`;hmm 408427;1386263332;ThickAsThieves;;;ticker 408428;1386263332;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1064.69472, Best ask: 1078.787, Bid-ask spread: 14.09228, Last trade: 1060.13587, 24 hour volume: 56785.86176932, 24 hour low: 870.001, 24 hour high: 1240.0, 24 hour vwap: 1076.51875 408429;1386263335;nubbins`;il neige aujourd'hui :( 408430;1386263357;pankkake;pourquoi la frimousse triste ? 408431;1386263392;nubbins`;je n'aime pas les temps froid ;( 408432;1386263401;ThickAsThieves;je m'appele TAT 408433;1386263410;Apocalyptic;*appelle 408434;1386263410;nubbins`;c'est un super lel 408435;1386263418;ThickAsThieves;oui 408436;1386263452;nubbins`;nous allons donner pankkake un mal de tete ;/ 408437;1386263458;Apocalyptic;heh 408438;1386263494;pankkake;I've been often confused on the number of P and L on appelle. appelle, appel, but apeller 408439;1386263505;Apocalyptic;pankkake, a s'utilise encore "frimousse" de nos jours ? 408440;1386263543;pankkake;ça ne s'utilise pas, on utilise "smiley", but it felt silly using an English word when purposely using French 408441;1386263556;ThickAsThieves;"Criminals setting "fair" value to the Magic the Gathering card version of currency. That's fucking rich." 408442;1386263584;nubbins`;not as rich as all of us 408443;1386263587;nubbins`;AM 408444;1386263587;nubbins`;I 408445;1386263589;nubbins`;RITE?! 408446;1386263609;ThickAsThieves;lol 408447;1386263632;nubbins`;srsly, just cut the top off a faberger egg so my cat wouldn't have to drink out of a dish like some kind of fucking prole 408448;1386263647;ThickAsThieves;lol 408449;1386263783;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 21 @ 0.0226 = 0.4746 BTC [+] 408450;1386263845;pankkake;gangsta rap should promote bitcoin. too bad casacsius didn't make bitcoin pendants 408451;1386263866;nubbins`;l'utilisation de mots anglais dans une phrase française semble un peu bizarre 408452;1386263880;pankkake;les québécois ne le font pas, mais les français si 408453;1386263891;nubbins`;although i suppose you feel the same way when you read "well, folks, let's go to the restaurant for lunch!" 408454;1386263894;topace;is anyone doing just-dice graphs like there used to be for satoshi dice ? 408455;1386263905;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 6 @ 0.0226 = 0.1356 BTC [+] 408456;1386263922;nubbins`;les québécois n'est pas français ;p 408457;1386263925;pankkake;Americans who use French words to appear smart (redditors) are funny 408458;1386263934;pankkake;c'est sûr 408459;1386263959;nubbins`;pankkake: around the time of the "freedom fries" thing, i read an article where the guy said we should stop using ALL french loanwords 408460;1386263971;nubbins`;he then proceeded to cross out all french words in his article and replace them 408461;1386263976;pankkake;good luck with that 408462;1386263980;nubbins`;i know right? 408463;1386263990;nubbins`;took him three lines to describe the place where he would eat 408464;1386264007;nubbins`;"Restau... no, caf... no, uh..." 408465;1386264027;nubbins`;the french embassy had no comment, except to say that french fries were invented in belgium 408466;1386264033;pankkake;restaurant in American = mcdonald's 408467;1386264097;mircea_popescu;pankkake> "Given Bitcoin does not pay any interest and that there are no investment instruments (equities or bonds) that are denominated in Bitcoin" << herp. 408468;1386264110;mircea_popescu;given that retards discussing bitcoin have no clue, we predict continued drama and lulz. 408469;1386264136;nubbins`;dunno, my bitcoins have paid plenty of interest 408470;1386264149;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 132 @ 0.00299598 = 0.3955 BTC [+] {2} 408471;1386264152;nubbins`;maybe they bought the wrong kind 408472;1386264160;mircea_popescu;maybe they bought the wrong color. 408473;1386264173;mircea_popescu;got themselves some of jurov's milky nigger.txt coins 408474;1386264184;pankkake;I have a fiat account that gives me a few percent per year. I used to watch it and move money it/out etc. 408475;1386264190;pankkake;bitcoin kinda changed my persective 408476;1386264201;pankkake;-typos 408477;1386264210;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.02485399 = 0.1243 BTC [+] {3} 408478;1386264219;pankkake;there's still no ObamaCoin! 408479;1386264225;nubbins`;asdsfdsfgfddgfdsg 408480;1386264228;nubbins`;leel 408481;1386264238;mircea_popescu; pankkake, a s'utilise encore "frimousse" de nos jours ? << i was thinking. fucking ordinateur and "frimousse" 408482;1386264252;nubbins`;ordinateur is a brutal word 408483;1386264265;pankkake;I like ordinateur ! 408484;1386264282;nubbins`;internet words are always tricky 408485;1386264285;pankkake;frimousse is cute, *too* cute 408486;1386264304;nubbins`;when i did web dev, we'd have to send message bundles off to get translated 408487;1386264316;mircea_popescu;it's cute in the sense of 30yo unshaved woman that can't poledance pestering her cuckolded "bf" on xmas eve. 408488;1386264324;nubbins`;you'd have people translating the word "click", "email", etc multiple ways in the same document 408489;1386264373;nubbins`;and of course half the translators were quebecois and the other half were acadiens 408490;1386264438;nubbins`;and just now, i learned that half a million acadiens moved to louisiana. 408491;1386264441;nubbins`;huh. 408492;1386264470;nubbins`;and just NOW, i'm realizing that's where the word "cajun" comes from 408493;1386264488;mircea_popescu;lol 408494;1386264492;mircea_popescu;acadjuien 408495;1386264496;mircea_popescu;seems pretty obvious 408496;1386264502;deadweasel;my cajun neighbors, good people. 408497;1386264514;deadweasel;resistant to the governments nonsense. very resistent. 408498;1386264538;nubbins`;well, that's france for ya 408499;1386264543;nubbins`;er, the french 408500;1386264602;nubbins`;i'm sure pankkake is preparing to throw his wooden shoes into some gears as we speak 408501;1386264618;pankkake;the French worship the State 408502;1386264628;pankkake;they might not like the government, they like the State 408503;1386264633;mircea_popescu;this is true 408504;1386264645;nubbins`;nod 408505;1386264652;mircea_popescu;ridiculous, but true 408506;1386264656;deadweasel;then the cajuns have moved far enough away from the french, thank jesus. 408507;1386264676;nubbins`;quebecois are the same way 408508;1386264678;deadweasel;truly I have no malice for the french, it's conditioned into me. 408509;1386264693;nubbins`;see for reference, last year's casseroles protests 408510;1386264712;pankkake;well, governments fail to do anything good every year, but you know, the next one is going to be great! 408511;1386264743;nubbins`;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oAJBhNtr04 408512;1386264743;ozbot;Casseroles 'Pots and Pans' Montreal Protest Video - YouTube 408513;1386264759;pankkake;but I have to admit I like the current protests 408514;1386264772;nubbins`;man, that got me so fucking angry last year 408515;1386264778;nubbins`;SO goddamn angry 408516;1386264857;nubbins`;non a la loi speciale! 408517;1386264866;mircea_popescu;so seriously, did that fortune guy ever manage to short btc ? 408518;1386264935;mircea_popescu;" toujours vouloir bien paratre, je crois que le Parti Qubcois enfoncera un autre clou dans son cercueil. Le Parti Qubcois semble servir jour aprs jour les intrts des riches avec leurs vises nolibrales anglo-saxonnes. Les assists sociaux, les tudiants, les francophones et maintenant les travailleurs ptiront. " 408519;1386264942;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 77 @ 0.00299599 = 0.2307 BTC [+] 408520;1386264949;mircea_popescu;holy shit, the french speaking canadians imagine they are going to be MORE socialist than the anglo-saxons ?! 408521;1386264951;mircea_popescu;lmao. 408522;1386264965;nubbins`;the PQ sucks 408523;1386264977;mircea_popescu;that aside. 408524;1386264997;mircea_popescu;these people actually believe what's wrong with the us etc is that they are stepping too much on the throat of the proletariat ?! 408525;1386265014;deadweasel;nobody can believe that 408526;1386265022;nubbins`;ah 408527;1386265035;nubbins`;in that context, anglo-saxon essentially should be translated as "bogeyman" 408528;1386265060;nubbins`;or capital-O Outsider, w/e 408529;1386265061;mircea_popescu;dude, how about no futher "dignite" of any kind for five years. 408530;1386265063;mircea_popescu;then we see. 408531;1386265065;pankkake;néolibéral too 408532;1386265079;nubbins`;^ 408533;1386265086;mircea_popescu;who the fuck heard of dignity for the poor. 408534;1386265091;pankkake;we have « ultralibéral » in France 408535;1386265092;mircea_popescu;that's why they're poor, to be humble. 408536;1386265095;nubbins`;the PQ thought they had it knocked 408537;1386265096;mircea_popescu;fucking upside world. 408538;1386265104;nubbins`;huge protests, PQ to the rescue! repeal the special law! 408539;1386265118;nubbins`;then they realized the population wasn't finished with being upset 408540;1386265150;gesell;mtgox split order javascript console script, if interested http://pastebin.com/tESPiTvg pretty simple 408541;1386265160;nubbins`;pauline marois is way worse than jean charest 408542;1386265163;ThickAsThieves;this guy... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=348468.msg3838759#msg3838759 408543;1386265200;ThickAsThieves;getting so tired of all is babbling like he is in-the-know and some kind of soothsayer 408544;1386265248;nubbins`;but dude, you're missing the human element 408545;1386265259;ThickAsThieves;thats cuz i am robot 408546;1386265271;ThickAsThieves;assbot is my wife 408547;1386265275;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves if the dork you were quoting earlier can opine about what the mkt cap of bitcoin should be, 408548;1386265281;mircea_popescu;then why can't random forum retard ? 408549;1386265285;assbot; fuck me in the ass 408550;1386265285;mircea_popescu;exactly same quality/material. 408551;1386265287;nubbins`;ThickAsThieves: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wagkBedzwI8 408552;1386265322;nubbins`;ah, wait, ^^ hopes restored 408553;1386265333;KRS|gotyawallet;ThickAsThieves: isn't $5BB market cap only midcap at best 408554;1386265336;nubbins`;good thing you keep backups 408555;1386265337;ThickAsThieves;basically they want to paint their obsessive passive aggression as some kind humanitarian effort or something 408556;1386265368;ThickAsThieves;assbot, grease, or no? 408557;1386265382;assbot; no grease for your size 408558;1386265389;nubbins`;heh 408559;1386265393;ThickAsThieves;i saw that coming 408560;1386265410;ThickAsThieves;nice assist i guess 408561;1386265420;nubbins`;i'm imagining a mechanical iris closing 408562;1386265421;assbot; its what couples do 408563;1386265432;ThickAsThieves;teamwork! 408564;1386265446;ThickAsThieves;selfdeprication facilitation 408565;1386265450;ThickAsThieves;complete. 408566;1386265558;nubbins`;|#####################| 100% 408567;1386265731;pankkake;8================D 100% 408568;1386265786;assbot; your balls are small 408569;1386265791;mircea_popescu;what's the emoticon for vagina dentata ? 408570;1386265804;ThickAsThieves;Install Failed. Would you like to check Windows Update for a solution? 408571;1386265816;Apocalyptic;heh 408572;1386265824;pankkake;{¦} ? 408573;1386265844;ThickAsThieves;( {|} ) 408574;1386265864;mircea_popescu;that looks more like himen bifenestratus 408575;1386265876;nubbins`;heh 408576;1386265893;kakobrekla;pankkake draw a bear trap 408577;1386265909;kakobrekla;tat warp traveling 408578;1386265932;ThickAsThieves;( { XXX } ) 408579;1386265946;pankkake;yes! 408580;1386266078;ThickAsThieves;now he pm's me saying i'm not consumer focused ... 408581;1386266098;ThickAsThieves;been in marketing for like most of my life... 408582;1386266176;ThickAsThieves;I'd reason with the guy if I didn;t think it'd result it point by point epic messages where he never gives in 408583;1386266261;mircea_popescu;isn't this the dork that was falling all over himself with mpoe-pr earlier ? 408584;1386266269;ThickAsThieves;dunno 408585;1386266275;ThickAsThieves;he was on ActM board 408586;1386266283;ThickAsThieves;oh yeah 408587;1386266290;ThickAsThieves;about SMG right? 408588;1386266293;mircea_popescu;haha well that's fitting 408589;1386266293;ThickAsThieves;yeah thats him 408590;1386266295;pankkake;oh, hence in my ignore list :D 408591;1386266297;mircea_popescu;i dun recall about what. 408592;1386266313;mircea_popescu;but i recall greyhawk's comment that his avatar is well chosen 408593;1386266319;ThickAsThieves;i had him ignored but now he's all up in Neo's business 408594;1386266321;pankkake;anyone in that board should be scammer tagged anyway 408595;1386266334;mircea_popescu;pankkake anyone not in my wot is scammer tagged by default. 408596;1386266355;pankkake;yeah I figured that one 408597;1386266467;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [7C] 65 @ 0.0077 = 0.5005 BTC {2} 408598;1386266511;pankkake;is 7C a scam? 408599;1386266511;pircea_momescu;pankkake 7c is a scam ! 408600;1386266516;pankkake;see, that works 408601;1386266527;thestringpuller;lololololol 408602;1386266528;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [7C] 37 @ 0.0077 = 0.2849 BTC {2} 408603;1386266541;mircea_popescu;"I have searched Google and I haven't found an answer to what it is am looking for. So here is the deal am looking for a MMORPG (not FPS) that I and a friend can play without the need of putting any money on it. It should be completely free (no one time buy, no need to put money to buy higher gear, no need to upgrade the account to open some other stuff and bag limits.) Also prefer if the game isn't from perfect world 408604;1386266541;mircea_popescu;international (since I have had bad history with there employees)." 408605;1386266545;mircea_popescu;i like internet people. 408606;1386266549;mircea_popescu;broiled. 408607;1386266568;pankkake;there employees :( 408608;1386266585;mircea_popescu;"i want good shit for free and a blowjob" 408609;1386266589;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [7C] 1111 @ 0.0077 = 8.5547 BTC {3} 408610;1386266591;ThickAsThieves;he prefers here employees 408611;1386266620;ThickAsThieves;dont these free things exist anyway? 408612;1386266626;Apocalyptic;they do 408613;1386266628;ThickAsThieves;like private WoW servers 408614;1386266631;ThickAsThieves;or such 408615;1386266634;Apocalyptic;it's just not good shit 408616;1386266642;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves those don't have here employees. 408617;1386266647;ThickAsThieves;ah 408618;1386266650;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [7C] 50 @ 0.0077 = 0.385 BTC 408619;1386266662;nubbins`;you still gotta buy wow tho 408620;1386266666;mircea_popescu;it's like... total complete bonehead. employees don't need to be paid. 408621;1386266670;nubbins`;this guy wants a great game that he can play for free 408622;1386266673;nubbins`;NO ADS THO 408623;1386266680;mircea_popescu;AND employees 408624;1386266693;mircea_popescu;no riffraff like ThickAsThieves mind. people with better consumer focus. 408625;1386266695;ThickAsThieves;i think Candy Crush is free 408626;1386266699;ThickAsThieves;and on Facebook 408627;1386266711;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.14995 BTC [+] 408628;1386266713;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [7C] 1005 @ 0.0077 = 7.7385 BTC {2} 408629;1386266714;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] [PAID] 2.28033270 BTC to 5`067`406 shares, 45 satoshi per share 408630;1386266733;nubbins`;heh 408631;1386266738;nubbins`;well, "free" 408632;1386266763;nubbins`;i'll inspect your wallet, credit card receipts, and health records for free 408633;1386266765;ThickAsThieves;"Any Capital raised by Havelock Investments on behalf of this Fund will be placed in escrow. The raised capital will only be distributed to the Company based on a per performance basis agreed by Havelock Investments and the Company. In the event that the Company is no longer able to continue operations, all of the remaining capital in escrow will be refunded to the Unit holders equally." 408634;1386266770;ThickAsThieves;7C ^ 408635;1386266772;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.15 = 0.6 BTC [+] 408636;1386266788;nubbins`;huh, interesting 408637;1386266796;mircea_popescu;so basically every mistake that can be made will have to be made 408638;1386266797;mircea_popescu;a well. 408639;1386266805;Namworld;Mistakes? 408640;1386266808;mircea_popescu;yes. 408641;1386266809;Namworld;Fill me in 408642;1386266814;ThickAsThieves;like releasing funds to them? 408643;1386266822;mircea_popescu;well, it's simple : if you don't trust the company don't let it list. 408644;1386266864;mircea_popescu;i;m too lazy to go into the endless debate as to why stupidity doesn't work. i'll just state the general point and shrug. 408645;1386266873;Korbman;but that's not how the new Havelock makes money ;) 408646;1386266956;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [7C] 10005 @ 0.0077 = 77.0385 BTC {2} 408647;1386266971;mircea_popescu;the new havelock is not going to be making any money. 408648;1386267052;jurov`;Mhm...i can't follow,what has changed at havelock? 408649;1386267067;jurov`;Moving to panama aside. 408650;1386267071;nubbins`;floodgates.png 408651;1386267081;nubbins`;something like 50 funds waiting in the wings? 408652;1386267090;pankkake;50 shitfunds 408653;1386267106;jurov`;orly 408654;1386267113;Namworld;Really? Where's the announcement on that? >.> 408655;1386267127;pankkake;on their own IPO, they stated that 408656;1386267195;thestringpuller;people are actually buying this 7C shit? 408657;1386267199;thestringpuller;@_@ 408658;1386267214;nubbins`;prospectus, page 4 408659;1386267251;nubbins`;adding 12 new funds each quarter 408660;1386267260;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [7C] 10000 @ 0.0077 = 77 BTC 408661;1386267271;Namworld;Panama says: Give ID, list anything 408662;1386267332;pankkake;the new info is also that CFIG is mostly Panama Fund guys 408663;1386267366;nubbins`;ah, i remember cfig 408664;1386267375;nubbins`;i drew a little diagram way back 408665;1386267396;nubbins`;it had a bunch of question marks 408666;1386267422;pankkake;oh, that was you :) 408667;1386267443;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [7C] 2012 @ 0.0077 = 15.4924 BTC {4} 408668;1386267461;nubbins`;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=269191.msg2940289#msg2940289 408669;1386267463;nubbins`;:D 408670;1386267463;ozbot;[HAVELOCK] Crypto Financial (CFIG) Official Thread 408671;1386267478;nubbins`;xbt, how quaint 408672;1386267517;nubbins`;that's essentially what virtex's debit cards do, but with automatic conversion of btc to fiat 408673;1386267541;nubbins`;also, my trust link is green now?! 408674;1386267565;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [7C] 1978 @ 0.0077 = 15.2306 BTC {2} 408675;1386267613;Korbman;I see 7C is pretty much only pulling in large orders 408676;1386267647;Namworld;And almost round... like 10000 > 10000 > 2000 > 2000 408677;1386267722;Namworld;Mostly what happened so far 408678;1386267809;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [7C] 20 @ 0.0077 = 0.154 BTC 408679;1386268054;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [7C] 25 @ 0.0077 = 0.1925 BTC 408680;1386268394;mircea_popescu;anyuone here ever tried rift ? 408681;1386268410;thestringpuller;how do you have time to play all these mmo's? 408682;1386268413;thestringpuller;"research" 408683;1386268414;thestringpuller;jkjk 408684;1386268425;TomServo;mircea_popescu: the tabletop rpg? 408685;1386268434;mircea_popescu;apparently there's a new pc version 408686;1386268439;mircea_popescu;or maybe unrelated i dunno ? 408687;1386268499;TomServo;Appears to be unrelated. I haven't played it. 408688;1386268556;ThickAsThieves;I played Rift 408689;1386268567;ThickAsThieves;in the early days 408690;1386268577;ThickAsThieves;it was enjoyable enough 408691;1386268592;TomServo;I was thinking of "Rifts" anyhow. 408692;1386268640;ThickAsThieves;MP you should just buy Rift 408693;1386268647;ThickAsThieves;and bitcoinify it 408694;1386268690;nubbins`;would play a settlers of catan themed btc game 408695;1386268699;nubbins`;or a btc themed settlers of catan, not sure 408696;1386268789;ThickAsThieves;i'd also play a dota btc game 408697;1386268802;ThickAsThieves;seems that format is pretty popular these days 408698;1386268846;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [7C] 90 @ 0.0077 = 0.693 BTC 408699;1386268888;nubbins`;you could actually probably completely re-skin catan to have a btc theme 408700;1386268907;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [7C] 26 @ 0.0077 = 0.2002 BTC {2} 408701;1386268960;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves i might, but are they selling it ? 408702;1386268973;ThickAsThieves;well i know they went to a fee model 408703;1386268978;ThickAsThieves;free* 408704;1386268982;ThickAsThieves;so they cant be doing well 408705;1386269030;nubbins`;hey, some of the best things are free 408706;1386269032;ThickAsThieves;and everyone has a price right? 408707;1386269047;nubbins`;like google, and that guy who offered to help me install that btc security software on my computer 408708;1386269067;nubbins`;unless you think there's some sort of catch to using both of those things?!?!?! 408709;1386269080;mircea_popescu;ok, that may be, but... well... 408710;1386269130;ThickAsThieves;have deadweasel get them in here 408711;1386269132;ThickAsThieves;:) 408712;1386269159;mircea_popescu;deadweasel baby, can you ferret out the owners of rift ? 408713;1386269171;mircea_popescu;Gameplay requires: (1) INTERNET CONNECTION (SOLD SEPARATELY), AND (2) ACCEPTANCE OF LICENSE AND USAGE TERMS. 408714;1386269191;mircea_popescu;you suppose anyone accused them of scamming because they don't also provide you with internet ? 408715;1386269202;mircea_popescu;"but i vbought the game fair and square!!11 why can't i play it on my toaster!11" 408716;1386269202;nubbins`;pretty much the definition of scam 408717;1386269212;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [7C] 15 @ 0.0077 = 0.1155 BTC 408718;1386269251;ThickAsThieves;https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=N9LlbuAeqlc#t=22 408719;1386269251;ozbot;2010 WWE Hall of Fame: Million Dollar Man - YouTube 408720;1386269258;nubbins`;hahahaha 408721;1386269273;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [7C] 8750 @ 0.0077 = 67.375 BTC {3} 408722;1386269276;nubbins`;theodore dibiase! 408723;1386269330;ThickAsThieves;was harder to find him saying his catchphrase than i thought itd be 408724;1386269334;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [7C] 6000 @ 0.0077 = 46.2 BTC {2} 408725;1386269379;deadweasel;mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves , I'm at work, give me a general starting link and I'll see. 408726;1386269391;deadweasel;dafuq is rift anyway? a game? 408727;1386269419;nubbins`;ThickAsThieves: you know ultimate warrior does knife painting now? 408728;1386269479;ThickAsThieves;deadweasel, Rift is a major game, you'd need to start with the studio probly 408729;1386269517;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 63 @ 0.00299699 = 0.1888 BTC [+] 408730;1386269533;ThickAsThieves;really there's like 0 chance theyll come in here 408731;1386269538;nubbins`;http://www.ultimatewarrior.com/blog/ 408732;1386269540;ThickAsThieves;unless they already are! 408733;1386269541;ozbot;Warrior's Machete 408734;1386269553;Namworld;There's only one quality IPO coming up. Calm your horses and the random ideas IPOs. 408735;1386269572;ThickAsThieves;weapons of wisdom 408736;1386269573;ThickAsThieves;lol 408737;1386269578;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1276 @ 0.00011042 = 0.1409 BTC [+] {3} 408738;1386269579;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20500 @ 0.00078219 = 16.0349 BTC [-] 408739;1386269589;Namworld;Ideas are 2 bucks a dozen, not 5 million each 408740;1386269591;mircea_popescu;deadweasel http://www.riftgame.com/en/play-for-free/ 408741;1386269602;mircea_popescu;no rush whatever, if you manage it at all you're a miracle worker anyway 408742;1386269613;ThickAsThieves;warrior's stuff isnt horrible 408743;1386269632;nubbins`;there's better 408744;1386269659;nubbins`;http://www.warriorgallery.com/Pages/Works.html 408745;1386269659;ozbot;Works. 408746;1386269691;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves well if it's f2p it ain't that major namean ? 408747;1386269700;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.344767 = 0.6895 BTC [+] 408748;1386269819;nubbins`;http://www.warriorgallery.com/Pages/WARRIOR_Van%20Gogh%20Skull_24x36.html 408749;1386269820;ozbot;Sitting Bull Blue 408750;1386269852;nubbins`;i like to imagine him painting these with a huge rambo knife, rather than a palette knife 408751;1386269868;ThickAsThieves;that one isnt bad either 408752;1386269878;ThickAsThieves;but paying that much for a print is silly 408753;1386269891;nubbins`;that's an original, not a print 408754;1386269906;ThickAsThieves;oh it said also available in other size 408755;1386269908;ThickAsThieves;so i assumed 408756;1386269918;nubbins`;ah, yeah, i think the other size is a print 408757;1386269924;ThickAsThieves;i know many artists try to sell prints for ridic prices 408758;1386269927;nubbins`;oh. nope. 408759;1386269937;nubbins`;tat, i have much to say on the subject of prints 408760;1386269961;ThickAsThieves;do you do giclee? 408761;1386269996;nubbins`;no, and in fact, i don't consider giclees "prints" in the traditional sense of the word 408762;1386270005;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33800001 BTC [-] 408763;1386270006;nubbins`;they're closer to color photocopies than anything 408764;1386270066;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33800001 BTC [-] 408765;1386270067;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 418 @ 0.000479 = 0.2002 BTC [-] 408766;1386270068;nubbins`;producing a print takes skill and effort, and each one is usually a unique piece 408767;1386270083;nubbins`;producing a giclee involves making sure your ink cartridges are topped up, and clicking a mouse 408768;1386270105;ThickAsThieves;i always assumed giclees did color matching 408769;1386270126;nubbins`;oh, sure, sometimes. but that's still just dicking around on the computer 408770;1386270131;ThickAsThieves;hehe 408771;1386270146;nubbins`;a $250 epson can produce beautiful CMYK giclee prints 408772;1386270167;nubbins`;but they're worth the cost of the paper and inks, plus maybe $20 408773;1386270195;nubbins`;to compare a giclee to a linocut or a serigraph is truly taking the piss 408774;1386270238;nubbins`;nothing worse than seeing people selling small "prints" for $50 each 408775;1386270240;nubbins`;in an edition of 250 408776;1386270255;ThickAsThieves;to me, i'd either want the original, or a good-enough print to look pretty on the wall 408777;1386270257;nubbins`;and then finding out they're fuckin giclees 408778;1386270261;ThickAsThieves;in-between seems a waste 408779;1386270264;nubbins`;nod 408780;1386270301;nubbins`;take a linocut, for example 408781;1386270316;nubbins`;it doesn't exist as a piece of art until it's printed 408782;1386270329;nubbins`;and each print is unique, as the linoleum squishes around and wears down 408783;1386270332;KRS|gotyawallet;http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/one-third-of-kenyans-now-have-a-bitcoin-wallet 408784;1386270333;ozbot;One Third of Kenyans Now Have a Bitcoin Wallet | Motherboard 408785;1386270336;nubbins`;a giclee is just a copy of an original 408786;1386270347;KRS|gotyawallet;Wonder how long til the Serbians get on board with their own bitcoin wallets. 408787;1386270357;nubbins`;compared to linocut, monotype, serigraph, etc, where the prints ARE originals 408788;1386270364;nubbins`;people have a lot of trouble with that point 408789;1386270393;ThickAsThieves;well the concept is that people want to know the artist stood there and made the thing 408790;1386270398;ThickAsThieves;not a amachine 408791;1386270398;nubbins`;nod 408792;1386270414;nubbins`;or at the very least, had a hand in its production 408793;1386270420;ThickAsThieves;meh 408794;1386270426;nubbins`;often the artist and the printer work hand-in-hand 408795;1386270426;kakobrekla;pressing all teh buttons 408796;1386270431;kakobrekla;moving all the mouses 408797;1386270432;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33332 BTC [-] 408798;1386270444;ThickAsThieves;working with artists = printer's nightmare 408799;1386270453;nubbins`;^ agreed 408800;1386270457;nubbins`;welcome to my life, heh 408801;1386270465;nubbins`;altho our clients are generally pretty easygoing 408802;1386270471;ThickAsThieves;I have no money, but I want 5 prints of 50 of my pieces! 408803;1386270476;ThickAsThieves;how much? 408804;1386270508;ThickAsThieves;or same request but for greeting cards 408805;1386270526;nubbins`;heh 408806;1386270529;ThickAsThieves;"buy your own printer" i'd tell them 408807;1386270554;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [7C] 13 @ 0.0077 = 0.1001 BTC 408808;1386270555;nubbins`;we explicitly do not own a color printer for this very reason 408809;1386270582;nubbins`;well. we have a printer that can print color (6 tanks!) 408810;1386270591;nubbins`;but it's all loaded with super-opaque pigment inks 408811;1386270594;nubbins`;for printing films 408812;1386270602;nubbins`;all black 408813;1386270615;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [7C] 13 @ 0.0077 = 0.1001 BTC 408814;1386270669;nubbins`;the best jobs are where we're given free reign over the art 408815;1386270685;ThickAsThieves;my mom used to work painting separations of textile patterns onto acetate plastic sheets by hand 408816;1386270692;nubbins`;"we want some posters made, here's a list of things we like: interrobangs, lasers, robots, etc" 408817;1386270702;nubbins`;ah, that's thankless work :) 408818;1386270705;ThickAsThieves;carpal tunnel in both hands, AND the foot version 408819;1386270718;nubbins`;nod, my wrists aren't great 408820;1386270731;nubbins`;years of poor computer posture combined with manual printing 408821;1386270737;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.155 BTC [-] 408822;1386270738;ThickAsThieves;she'd have like 20 sheets layered over eachother in one brown blob when done 408823;1386270750;nubbins`;i've sepped by hand before 408824;1386270766;ThickAsThieves;then they got computers 408825;1386270767;nubbins`;generally just use gimp with a wacom tablet these days 408826;1386270850;nubbins`;our usual process is pencil -> ink -> gimp -> inkscape -> illustrator -> acetate -> silkscreens -> paper 408827;1386270866;thestringpuller;uh 408828;1386270867;thestringpuller;uh 408829;1386270869;thestringpuller;gimp 408830;1386270872;thestringpuller;huh huh 408831;1386270877;thestringpuller;huhuh he said gimp 408832;1386270888;nubbins`;heh 408833;1386270924;nubbins`;and really, we only use illustrator for printing films 408834;1386270932;nubbins`;would be nice if we didn't need it 408835;1386270945;nubbins`;but inkscape doesn't support CMYK print output (srsly) 408836;1386271049;ThickerThanThiev;i'm a coreldraw fan 408837;1386271055;ThickerThanThiev;great for that kinda work 408838;1386271058;nubbins`;never used it 408839;1386271064;ThickerThanThiev;it's canadian! 408840;1386271064;nubbins`;i mean, inkscape itself is great for vector work 408841;1386271072;nubbins`;it just barfs at the output step 408842;1386271112;nubbins`;so we shelled out $800 for illustrator 408843;1386271122;ThickAsThieves;it takes adusting for a long-time Illustrator user 408844;1386271123;nubbins`;and another $500 for 3rd party epson drivers 408845;1386271146;ThickAsThieves;but the keystrokes and tools and like everything for vector editing in corel is just better imo 408846;1386271154;nubbins`;ah 408847;1386271164;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [7C] 30 @ 0.0077 = 0.231 BTC 408848;1386271166;nubbins`;yeah, illo is powerful, but most of it is still beyond me 408849;1386271173;nubbins`;the image trace options in cs6 are fuckin great tho 408850;1386271189;nubbins`;http://www.softwareforscreenprinters.com/accurip 408851;1386271191;ozbot;Accurip 408852;1386271204;ThickAsThieves;what was it we used to rip, oh yeah Onyx 408853;1386271207;ThickAsThieves;so expensive 408854;1386271210;nubbins`;nod 408855;1386271214;nubbins`;rips are fucking LOOT 408856;1386271214;asciilifeform;unrelated but interesting: http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?c=ecfr&sid=c5cc9a1c749a6f225283bdfa124431d0&rgn=div9&view=text&node=15:2.1.3.4.45.0.1.3.87&idno=15 408857;1386271227;nubbins`;tried to get away without using one for so long 408858;1386271228;asciilifeform;a list of junk u.s. gov. considers politically interesting. 408859;1386271231;nubbins`;such a waste of effort 408860;1386271269;nubbins`;i almost wept when i saw the first set of separations accurip spit out 408861;1386271276;nubbins`;felt like i'd discovered bitcoin 408862;1386271280;ThickAsThieves;hehe 408863;1386271285;deadweasel;who exactly from rift do you want to talk to? 408864;1386271285;asciilifeform;betcha every luggage trunk at every u.s. airport contains something on this list. 408865;1386271295;deadweasel;a pr douche? 408866;1386271301;deadweasel;accountant? 408867;1386271301;ThickAsThieves;no 408868;1386271306;ThickAsThieves;an owner 408869;1386271310;nubbins`;a c-level exec 408870;1386271311;deadweasel;mutherfucker 408871;1386271324;deadweasel;ha, wish me luck 408872;1386271326;ThickAsThieves;he want to buy the game afterall 408873;1386271329;nubbins`;gl ;p 408874;1386271358;deadweasel;and just what do they want to talk with you about? :) 408875;1386271365;deadweasel;i can't make it up if I havne't followed the story. 408876;1386271376;nubbins`;anyway, people have no idea what a pain pre-press work is 408877;1386271383;nubbins`;"yeah my artwork is ready to go" 408878;1386271384;deadweasel;we do now, nubs 408879;1386271388;nubbins`;not even converted to spot colors 408880;1386271391;nubbins`;etc 408881;1386271406;nubbins`;the thing about "graphic designers" that fucking pisses me off 408882;1386271412;nubbins`;is that none of them understand print 408883;1386271412;ThickAsThieves;lol 408884;1386271419;nubbins`;"ahh, the guy who prints it can figure that out" 408885;1386271439;ThickAsThieves;i never hired college-trained designers 408886;1386271440;nubbins`;and then the poor client pays me $xx/h to recreate the goddamn image from scratch 408887;1386271444;ThickAsThieves;fukn useless 408888;1386271454;nubbins`;nod 408889;1386271461;nubbins`;no concept of anything 408890;1386271468;nubbins`;72dpi backgrounds 408891;1386271472;nubbins`;"it looks good on my screen" 408892;1386271476;nubbins`;die in a fire 408893;1386271496;ThickAsThieves;file prep is truly an advanced skill 408894;1386271510;nubbins`;it's a completely separate skillset 408895;1386271511;kakobrekla;just rename it to niggers.txt 408896;1386271516;deadweasel;lol 408897;1386271523;nubbins`;"how would you like niggers.txt screened?" 408898;1386271531;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [7C] 5000 @ 0.0077 = 38.5 BTC 408899;1386271532;nubbins`;61 lpi, 22.5 deg angle, please 408900;1386271544;nubbins`;i'm still learning 408901;1386271554;nubbins`;only discovered "overprint fill/stroke" recently 408902;1386271567;deadweasel;"i want all niggers.txt screened out of my t=shirt, please." 408903;1386271569;nubbins`;and the implications thereof 408904;1386271583;ThickAsThieves;i once printed seps for an album cover on the newspaper's hardware where i wored 408905;1386271594;ThickAsThieves;whored 408906;1386271595;ThickAsThieves;hehe 408907;1386271602;ThickAsThieves;worked* 408908;1386271620;kakobrekla;i belive whored is the right term 408909;1386271636;nubbins`;what did they call those projectors they used to use for seps? 408910;1386271646;ThickAsThieves;i cant remember 408911;1386271650;ThickAsThieves;big fuckers 408912;1386271654;nubbins`;not orthographic 408913;1386271731;nubbins`;i can't remember either. rad tho. 408914;1386271819;nubbins`;would love to get into letterpress 408915;1386271824;nubbins`;but that's an expensive setup 408916;1386271833;nubbins`;and i'd want to be able to make my own plates 408917;1386271838;nubbins`;which makes it a REALLY expensive setup 408918;1386271852;ThickAsThieves;people will pay pretty well for it, but way too custom for my patience again 408919;1386271904;nubbins`;yeah, there's basically zero market outside of wedding invitations too 408920;1386271918;ThickAsThieves;brides as clients, lol 408921;1386271927;ThickAsThieves;one time, that's all it took me 408922;1386271944;ThickAsThieves;insanity 408923;1386271953;nubbins`;bridezilla 408924;1386271964;nubbins`;one of our printers works days at a wedding planning place 408925;1386271970;nubbins`;she does not enjoy it 408926;1386271986;ThickAsThieves;in the end i was hand-scoring and trimming corners one by one 408927;1386271998;nubbins`;"yeah, auhhmmm, i want flowers like pandora vanderpump had at her wedding... but i don't want them to, like, cost a lot" 408928;1386272039;ThickAsThieves;hand drawn maps to the location 408929;1386272045;ThickAsThieves;custom lettering 408930;1386272057;ThickAsThieves;bleh 408931;1386272059;nubbins`;nod 408932;1386272067;nubbins`;we've silkscreened some wedding invites 408933;1386272086;nubbins`;doing some now actually 408934;1386272092;nubbins`;6 spot colors ;( 408935;1386272098;ThickAsThieves;(sorry channel, I'm just about bored with the print talk) :) 408936;1386272131;nubbins`;http://pinkeyeprints.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/wedding-invite-2a.png 408937;1386272132;nubbins`;heh 408938;1386272135;nubbins`;i'm about done too 408939;1386272136;kakobrekla;you just got him wet 408940;1386272168;ThickAsThieves;;;ticker 408941;1386272168;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1123.0, Best ask: 1124.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.00000, Last trade: 1121.0, 24 hour volume: 56407.85643252, 24 hour low: 870.001, 24 hour high: 1240.0, 24 hour vwap: 1069.77714 408942;1386272175;ThickAsThieves;try harder China! 408943;1386272183;nubbins`;870-1240 408944;1386272187;nubbins`;pretty calm day 408945;1386272195;kleeck_;:P 408946;1386272201;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 61 @ 0.00318637 = 0.1944 BTC [-] {7} 408947;1386272228;mike_c;;;premium btcn mtgox 408948;1386272231;gribble;Premium of BTCChina over MtGox is currently -9.57021326982 %. 408949;1386272241;mike_c;china is asleep at the wheel. 408950;1386272286;mike_c;everybody ran to china to arbitrage and drove the price down :) 408951;1386272305;nubbins`;http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/chicken-in-turkey-mary-brown-s-aims-for-istanbul-1.2452205 408952;1386272305;ozbot;Chicken in Turkey: Mary Brown's aims for Istanbul - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News 408953;1386272375;ThickAsThieves;not Constantinople 408954;1386272389;nubbins`;some years ago, mary brown's released this new sandwich called the Big Mary 408955;1386272394;nubbins`;huge ad campaign 408956;1386272405;nubbins`;some guy thought a play on "hail caesar" would be a good idea 408957;1386272421;nubbins`;massive posters in bus shelters everywhere depicting a chicken sandwich 408958;1386272429;nubbins`;"HAIL MARY" in foot-high letters 408959;1386272439;nubbins`;catholic church became very upset 408960;1386272455;nubbins`;shocked that the mother of god would be compared to a chicken sandwich! 408961;1386272459;nubbins`;and so the posters came back down 408962;1386272478;ThickAsThieves;shoulda used prints 408963;1386272481;nubbins`;i lel'd 408964;1386272512;ThickAsThieves;catholic church is very snooty about such things 408965;1386272512;nubbins`;we've actually been experimenting with silkscreening posters for taping to poles 408966;1386272526;mircea_popescu;so how's the printing office going ? 408967;1386272565;nubbins`;great, A+++, would do business with again 408968;1386272574;nubbins`;http://imgur.com/KMj2YW7 408969;1386272574;ozbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 408970;1386272580;nubbins`;^ surprisingly resilient to the elements 408971;1386272581;mircea_popescu;lol 408972;1386272631;nubbins`;we bought a 36"x1000' roll of red kraft paper, great idea 408973;1386272746;nubbins`;anyway, shit to do. peace 408974;1386272811;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00299699 = 0.1498 BTC [+] 408975;1386272994;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.165 BTC [+] 408976;1386273360;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [7C] 50 @ 0.0077 = 0.385 BTC 408977;1386273405;benkay;#python-pdx 408978;1386273604;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19534 @ 0.00078614 = 15.3565 BTC [+] 408979;1386274275;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 333 @ 0.00299799 = 0.9983 BTC [+] 408980;1386274336;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [7C] 129 @ 0.0077 = 0.9933 BTC 408981;1386274397;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [7C] 5000 @ 0.0077 = 38.5 BTC 408982;1386274527;TomServo;What's your standard response to "It's a ponzi!"? 408983;1386274560;mike_c;you mean pyramid scheme? 408984;1386274571;TomServo;heh, nope 408985;1386274588;TomServo;Although that'd be more accurate. You mean, that's your response? 408986;1386274596;mike_c;tough to be a ponzi without somebody running the whole thing. 408987;1386274631;ThickAsThieves;i thought the standard respinse IS it's a ponzi 408988;1386274631;pircea_momescu;ThickAsThieves it's is a ponzi ! 408989;1386274640;mike_c;somebody is typically holding all the money in a ponzi. who would that be? 408990;1386274703;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8955 @ 0.00078889 = 7.0645 BTC [+] 408991;1386274704;TomServo;It's Mircea innit? :D 408992;1386274779;mike_c;he's got all the bitcoins :) somebody would have to have all the fiat for it to be a ponzi. 408993;1386274824;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.16899999 BTC [+] 408994;1386274844;TomServo;Ha, true. 408995;1386274946;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33809999 BTC [+] 408996;1386275190;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [7C] 1000 @ 0.0077 = 7.7 BTC 408997;1386275503;mircea_popescu;it's a prizzi! 408998;1386275803;benkay;asciilifeform, mircea_popescu: what's stupid about the NTRU encryption scheme? 408999;1386275810;benkay;(assuming there's something dumb and that you two'd know) 409000;1386276288;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.16899999 BTC [+] 409001;1386276354;davout;TomServo: it's not a pyramid scheme, it's a triangular opportunity 409002;1386276373;TomServo;haha, I like it! 409003;1386276395;davout;i didn't come up with it, i think it comes from the simpsons 409004;1386276407;davout;cryptomnesia ftw 409005;1386276410;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [7C] 475 @ 0.0077 = 3.6575 BTC 409006;1386276509;kleeck_;What is the best place to short BTC? 409007;1386276532;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00079052 = 2.2925 BTC [+] 409008;1386276592;davout;kleeck_: you could buy some puts on mpex 409009;1386276694;benkay;kleeck_: MPEx. 409010;1386277020;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33330001 BTC [-] 409011;1386277024;benkay;or sell some calls if you're sufficiently capitalized. 409012;1386277082;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3333 BTC [-] 409013;1386277142;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 5844 @ 0.00048987 = 2.8628 BTC [+] {4} 409014;1386277147;mike_c;or on coinbr.com (mpex broker) 409015;1386277160;davout;benkay: i've been working on my financial education a lot recently still lots to learn, but isn't it much more dangerous to write options than it is to buy them ? 409016;1386277194;davout;the way i understand it you can lose a lot but your profit is capped by the price at which you sell the option 409017;1386277203;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1417 @ 0.00048994 = 0.6942 BTC [+] {3} 409018;1386277213;mike_c;yes, but you profit sooner 409019;1386277221;mike_c;at a higher price that is 409020;1386277240;davout;unlike futures where your profit varies linearly with the spot price of the underlying at maturity/expiration 409021;1386277244;davout;amirite? 409022;1386277261;mike_c;http://i.investopedia.com/inv/articles/site/img12.png 409023;1386277274;davout;mike_c: well, i guess it's up to the party who writes the option to come up with the right price 409024;1386277325;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 2800 @ 0.00048999 = 1.372 BTC [+] {2} 409025;1386277326;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 97 @ 0.0031821 = 0.3087 BTC [-] 409026;1386277380;davout;got myself "Options, futures, and other derivatives" doing the problems, I feel like I'm back in college xD 409027;1386277414;davout;mike_c: see, that's the kind of graphs I want to really understand by coming up with them the hard way :-) 409028;1386277420;benkay;pricing options is an open problem, yes. 409029;1386277440;davout;the MPOE bot knows something about it hehe 409030;1386277469;mike_c;i value learning by experience, but the p/l graphs are definitely something you should understand before trading options. 409031;1386277502;davout;i'm not touching options, and i certainly won't write them 409032;1386277570;benkay;if you really want to understand options, write a pricing algo. 409033;1386277630;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.155 BTC [-] 409034;1386277752;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [7C] 221 @ 0.0077 = 1.7017 BTC 409035;1386277766;asciilifeform;benkay: lattice crypto is interesting but (relatively) poorly studied; plenty of opportunity for fukkupy 409036;1386277792;asciilifeform;and the pubkeys tend to end up hefty (64kB+.) 409037;1386278056;benkay;i'd like to see a shor-resistant cryptocurrency. 409038;1386278150;benkay;kinda the only altcoin that makes practical sense. 409039;1386278174;asciilifeform;benkay: there are several hypothetical altcoins that would make practical sense. 409040;1386278183;benkay;just so that when cold wallets start emptying themselves those who keep their eyes on these things have another class of cryptocoin to move into. 409041;1386278196;asciilifeform;say, my crackpot 'turingcoin' (arbitrary calculation for workfunction.) 409042;1386278267;davout;benkay: i guess i'll need to understand how to model volatility before writing one 409043;1386278282;mircea_popescu;davout the main difference between options and futures is that a correctly implemented future allows physical delivery, 409044;1386278286;mircea_popescu;which keeps the market honest. 409045;1386278301;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 3 @ 0.051 = 0.153 BTC [-] 409046;1386278310;davout;can you elaborate on the keeping the market honest part ? 409047;1386278311;mircea_popescu;absent that, futures are awkwardly skinned options. 409048;1386278341;davout;and on the awkwardly skinned options part ? :-) 409049;1386278344;mircea_popescu;davout yeah. if you buy the right to receive livestock in the future, as long as you can't actually take the livestock 409050;1386278353;mircea_popescu;you're stuck realising whatever price whoever sold you the contract decides 409051;1386278359;mircea_popescu;ifthey say livestock is 10 dollars that's that. 409052;1386278387;mircea_popescu;if however you CAN take the livestock, then they are well incentivised to not declare livestock worth 10 dollars, cause you'll just take it. 409053;1386278390;davout;when you close your position you mean? 409054;1386278396;davout;ya i see 409055;1386278396;asciilifeform;self-emptying coldwallets, should they appear, would almost certainly be explained by compromised electronics (airgap that isn't) rather than QM sorcery. 409056;1386278400;mircea_popescu;at all points. 409057;1386278427;davout;finance is terrifyingly interesting 409058;1386278451;mircea_popescu;an option resolves this problem by trading on the spot. futures trade on their own "implied" spot, and so you can easily be stuck 409059;1386278451;davout;learning about it is quite enjoyable 409060;1386278468;davout;you lost me there 409061;1386278469;mircea_popescu;(for instance it's convincingly arguing atm that the large banks are keeping rthe gold price very low throuigh this exact trickery) 409062;1386278516;benkay;whereas if you take posession of the livestock, you can sell them for the market price. 409063;1386278527;mircea_popescu;davout the price at which options settle is not related to the price at which options trade, in the sense these are independent values. 409064;1386278537;mircea_popescu;the price at which futures settle is QUITE the price at which they trade. 409065;1386278567;davout;but the spot is still the spot right? i mean, it reflects the actual price of things? or am i missing something obvious here? 409066;1386278579;benkay;asciilifeform: the first set of course 409067;1386278604;mircea_popescu;thje spot is the spot, but the actual price shall never be known. 409068;1386278610;davout;haha 409069;1386278612;benkay;asciilifeform: i'm entertaining ideas about practical altcoin design 409070;1386278654;asciilifeform;benkay: programmable workfunction (part of the protocol, in my concept) would give you some teeth against asic, etc. 409071;1386278666;mircea_popescu;why do you want " teeth against asic" ? 409072;1386278681;ThickAsThieves;hey guys, where can I short the bitcoin? 409073;1386278683;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: if you're sitting on a warehouse full of fpga. 409074;1386278709;mircea_popescu;seems a silly way to design things 409075;1386278720;davout;mircea_popescu: i'm at chapter 2 of my book, hopefully i'll grok moar and come up with better questions as i progress 409076;1386278722;asciilifeform;or simply if you'd prefer a cryptocoin that doesn't degenerate into semiconductor plants as central banks 409077;1386278732;benkay;asciilifeform: examples: targeting fpga's; dynamic workfns (as you mentioned); sorcery resistance 409078;1386278733;mircea_popescu;davout enjoi. 409079;1386278744;TomServo;davout: which book? 409080;1386278757;ThickAsThieves;http://metro.co.uk/2013/12/04/romanian-farmville-gang-con-400000-from-government-with-fake-farms-4215956/ 409081;1386278766;davout;TomServo: http://www.amazon.fr/Options-Futures-Other-Derivatives-John/dp/0132777428 409082;1386278786;TomServo;Thanks 409083;1386278802;davout;feels like a good way to invest 100eur 409084;1386278877;TomServo;ThickAsThieves: This is the UK onion right? *sigh* 409085;1386278911;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00299 = 0.299 BTC [-] 409086;1386278917;dub;asciilifeform: swapping them for guys with warehouses of pgas as central banks? 409087;1386278949;asciilifeform;dub: naturally. i was reasoning from the point of view of the people who have them. they have an incentive. 409088;1386279094;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00317293 = 0.3173 BTC [-] {4} 409089;1386279338;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [7C] 20 @ 0.0077 = 0.154 BTC 409090;1386279492;ThickAsThieves;http://www.coindesk.com/asic-miners-litecoin-soon/ 409091;1386279561;pankkake;http://pastebin.com/RRSPfDkp I get a PM a day about this stupid altcoin now :/ 409092;1386279561;ozbot;Hello I came across your giveaway thread at---https://bitcointalk - Pastebin.com 409093;1386279741;pankkake;haha and they don't accept litecoin as payment 409094;1386279754;benkay;hey mircea_popescu what does anul 5 d.Tr. mean? 409095;1386279781;mike_c;asciilifeform: i don't see how arbitrary work function helps. have you written something up on this? i'm missing the part where it keeps asics out of the game. 409096;1386279793;pankkake;;;ud anul 409097;1386279794;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=anul | this is a mis-spelling of anal which could then lead to abuse by two bi-sexuals. 409098;1386279795;ozbot;Urban Dictionary: anul 409099;1386279826;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 22 @ 0.0249409 = 0.5487 BTC [+] {3} 409100;1386279828;KRS|gotyawallet;wut lel 409101;1386279837;mike_c;like you said, governments can crank out a new asic in a matter of weeks.. 409102;1386279838;TomServo;benkay: Year 5, I think? 409103;1386279872;KRS|gotyawallet;mike_c: not the U.S.. I mean, have you known the U.S. to get anything done in a matter of weeks? 409104;1386279886;mike_c;asciilifeform said the nsa has a plant that does it 409105;1386279887;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 126 @ 0.02499999 = 3.15 BTC [+] {2} 409106;1386279898;asciilifeform;well, that could in principle do it. 409107;1386279913;pankkake;they can force Intel to do it 409108;1386279924;asciilifeform;the point wouldn't be to wiggle out from under each new batch of asics 409109;1386279936;asciilifeform;but to run a network with heterogeneous workfunctions. 409110;1386280116;mike_c;i don't see how that prevents the semiconductor plants from being boss. they can still crank out the most work, regardless of what that work is. 409111;1386280129;mike_c;unless its planting tomatoes or something. 409112;1386280497;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33809999 BTC [+] 409113;1386280614;ThickAsThieves;so this forbes guy that wanted to short bitcoin so badly, ythink he knew about this china announcement? 409114;1386280680;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 166 @ 0.002995 = 0.4972 BTC [+] 409115;1386280728;KRS|gotyawallet;shady shit 409116;1386281125;mircea_popescu;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=358242.0 409117;1386281128;mircea_popescu;it never ends 409118;1386281128;ozbot;Next generation 14nm mining grid 409119;1386281289;pankkake;" 409120;1386281290;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33805978 BTC [-] 409121;1386281291;pankkake;We plan to harness what will soon be the largest and most efficient pool of hashing power in the world" 409122;1386281304;mircea_popescu;herpderpetc 409123;1386281315;mircea_popescu;i plan to fart a new ring for saturn 409124;1386281412;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.33806979 = 0.6761 BTC [+] 409125;1386281427;ThickAsThieves;I can finally have my ASIC phone? 409126;1386281443;ThickAsThieves;and the floor tiles, are they in the works? 409127;1386281478;pankkake;oh right it's the smartphone idea, lol. that's why I closed it the first time 409128;1386281483;mircea_popescu;i like the part about THE SCAMMERS chjecking other people's records./ 409129;1386281491;pankkake;floor tiles would actually be smart (if you have nothing better than electricity) 409130;1386281500;mircea_popescu;bloody nigerian cheek. 409131;1386281509;ThickAsThieves;wouldnt want no criminals holding shares now 409132;1386281569;mircea_popescu;right-o 409133;1386281676;pankkake;perhaps they are nigerians with an ethical policy of only scamming americans 409134;1386281896;nubbins`;aaaaugh 409135;1386281907;nubbins`;60 minutes on a stationary bike 409136;1386281915;nubbins`;definitely less fun than 60 minutes on a moving bike 409137;1386281934;Vexual;worst botnet ever 409138;1386282094;Vexual;chinese pesants can't put bitcoins in the bank. am i reading correctly? 409139;1386282118;nubbins`;http://www.ebay.com/itm/2012-5-BTC-Casascius-Physical-BITCOIN-Redeemed-BONUS-5mBTC-Coin-LOADED-w-BTC-/321262450654?ssPageName=ADME:L:EOISSA:US:1123 409140;1386282119;ozbot;2012 5 BTC Casascius Physical Bitcoin Redeemed Bonus 5MBTC Coin Loaded w BTC | eBay 409141;1386282144;nubbins`;^ arij from -otc got $234.50 for a token :0 409142;1386282160;pankkake;ALUMINUM!!!! 409143;1386282186;nubbins`;ah, i thought it was nickel? 409144;1386282187;nubbins`;not sure 409145;1386282214;ThickAsThieves;"The residue resulting from peeling off the hologram is included." 409146;1386282215;ThickAsThieves;lol 409147;1386282224;nubbins`;yeah 409148;1386282225;nubbins`;lel 409149;1386282237;nubbins`;i went a step further and removed all messy residue from mine 409150;1386282250;nubbins`;maybe that's why it's only at $145 409151;1386282252;ThickAsThieves;residue not included 409152;1386282267;nubbins`;residue sold separately 409153;1386282291;nubbins`;Up for auction is one (1) ball of residue from a Casascius physical bitcoin 409154;1386282302;nubbins`;wow your friends! scare your mom! 409155;1386282308;ThickAsThieves;here's the "try" email of the day 409156;1386282316;ThickAsThieves;"Hello: I am interested in opening a account. 409157;1386282316;ThickAsThieves;Thank you." 409158;1386282325;nubbins`;hah 409159;1386282330;nubbins`;one-line reply 409160;1386282336;nubbins`;"Thank you for your interest." 409161;1386282374;ThickAsThieves;Thank you foR Your interest. 409162;1386282393;nubbins`;bolded for emphasis 409163;1386282413;nubbins`;if only the letters "h-a-r-d-e-r" were in the word "interest" 409164;1386282460;ThickAsThieves;maybe usg is trying to set me up or some shit 409165;1386282474;nubbins`;time to relocate 409166;1386282524;Vexual;st kitss has good residue 409167;1386282532;ThickAsThieves;i went for "We do not offer accounts." 409168;1386282998;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11550 @ 0.00079145 = 9.1412 BTC [+] {2} 409169;1386283070;KRS|gotyawallet;another exchange coming it looks like..well funded launch too 409170;1386283074;KRS|gotyawallet;kind of 409171;1386283096;KRS|gotyawallet;http://www.pehub.com/2013/11/itbit-closes-3-25-mln-funding-round-unveils-bitcoin-trading-platform/ 409172;1386283096;ozbot;» itBit closes $3.25 mln funding round and unveils Bitcoin trading platform 409173;1386283131;KRS|gotyawallet;ecom type web sites can easily chew through that kind of funding..hope its just the initial round of investment 409174;1386283187;ThickAsThieves;Neo is more well-funded even 409175;1386283818;benkay;"retail investors must reside outside the us" 409176;1386283851;benkay;the decline doth proceed apace. 409177;1386283877;mike_c;;;bc,stats 409178;1386283879;gribble;Current Blocks: 273270 | Current Difficulty: 7.074082830514966E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 274175 | Next Difficulty In: 905 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 4 hours, 49 minutes, and 39 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 871682636.513 | Estimated Percent Change: 23.222 409179;1386284089;Vexual;I thought that was creative chinese tax accountants i could hear 409180;1386284094;benkay;;;ticker 409181;1386284095;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1106.00001, Best ask: 1106.45, Bid-ask spread: 0.44999, Last trade: 1106.0, 24 hour volume: 58208.70733260, 24 hour low: 870.001, 24 hour high: 1240.0, 24 hour vwap: 1067.55523 409182;1386284108;pankkake;;;ticker --market btcavg 409183;1386284109;gribble;BitcoinAverage BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1026.26, Best ask: 1031.45, Bid-ask spread: 5.19000, Last trade: 1034.03, 24 hour volume: 187327.5, 24 hour low: None, 24 hour high: None, 24 hour vwap: 1062.1 409184;1386284124;benkay;;;calc 1106*30 409185;1386284124;gribble;33180 409186;1386284126;pankkake;;;premium mtgox bitstamp 409187;1386284128;gribble;Premium of MtGox over Bitstamp is currently 8.56154367093 %. 409188;1386284175;mircea_popescu;itbit eh 409189;1386284184;benkay;;;calc 1026.26*30 409190;1386284184;gribble;30787.8 409191;1386284218;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 400 @ 0.00079236 = 0.3169 BTC [+] 409192;1386284247;mircea_popescu;nbwajhahaha cellphone mining 409193;1386284256;mircea_popescu;where do these retards get assembled i wish to know 409194;1386284311;nubbins`;i guess icbit was taken 409195;1386284317;pankkake;I love when they get angry at you (like 7C it seems). Who's begging for who's money? 409196;1386284409;mike_c;people are angry at you on the forums? hard to believe. 409197;1386284424;nubbins`;lel 409198;1386284595;ThickAsThieves;http://bitcoinviews.com/university-of-nicosia-receives-first-tuition-payment-using-bitcoin/ 409199;1386284596;ozbot;University of Nicosia Receives First Tuition Payment Using Bitcoin 409200;1386284616;ThickAsThieves;Who will be the first Master of Digital Currency? 409201;1386284671;ThickAsThieves;http://www.unic.ac.cy 409202;1386284672;ozbot;University of Nicosia 409203;1386284674;ThickAsThieves;they arent kidding 409204;1386284678;pankkake;a bitcoin class, why not? there's already on for starcraft http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2009/01/uc-berkeley-int/ 409205;1386284685;ThickAsThieves;right on the home page 409206;1386284694;pankkake;wow 409207;1386284715;ThickAsThieves;I met that guy, in the Video section 409208;1386284727;ThickAsThieves;was pretty interesting guy 409209;1386284753;ThickAsThieves;vid is Greek tho 409210;1386284768;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [7C] 16 @ 0.0077 = 0.1232 BTC {2} 409211;1386284873;ThickAsThieves;http://www.unic.ac.cy/about-us/university-of-nicosia-digital-currency-initiative/msc-digital-currency 409212;1386284874;ozbot;MSc Digital Currency | University of Nicosia 409213;1386285499;nubbins`;lel 409214;1386285505;nubbins`;pascale re: S.NSA t-shirts 409215;1386285511;nubbins`;"remember the models with their pussies out?" 409216;1386285515;nubbins`;"yep" 409217;1386285743;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 40 @ 0.0029 = 0.116 BTC [-] {2} 409218;1386285745;Vexual;http://finance.fortune.cnn.com/2013/12/05/betting-against-bitcoin-bubble/ you got quoted TAT 409219;1386285745;ozbot;How to bet against the bitcoin megabubble - The Term Sheet: Fortune's deals blogTerm Sheet 409220;1386285804;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 169 @ 0.00285973 = 0.4833 BTC [-] {6} 409221;1386285865;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00285 = 0.285 BTC [-] {2} 409222;1386285954;benkay;"that lead me to question just how real the prices MPEx was quoting were" 409223;1386285973;nubbins`;hahaha 409224;1386285979;nubbins`;hey, it's stephen gandel! 409225;1386285984;benkay;as real as the people buying them, one assumes 409226;1386285991;benkay;2 contracts minimum to profit 409227;1386285995;benkay;well i say 409228;1386286021;benkay;sounds like you need some capitalization 409229;1386286028;benkay;american "news" organizations 409230;1386286041;ThickAsThieves;wow 409231;1386286054;ThickAsThieves;mpex on fortune 409232;1386286056;ThickAsThieves;wooy 409233;1386286058;ThickAsThieves;woot* 409234;1386286064;benkay;"you can totally short bitcoins profitably - it just takes a lot of money to make it reasonably profitable. ergo, bitcoins r tardfodder." 409235;1386286091;benkay;*rage rage rage rage* 409236;1386286102;Vexual;I was told this happens a lot. 409237;1386286182;ThickAsThieves;"You can't currently do that with bitcoins. All of the bitcoin options and futures contracts are settled in bitcoins. This is a very bad deal." 409238;1386286186;ThickAsThieves;I guess he didnt get it 409239;1386286214;Apocalyptic;the first comment was from pankkake 409240;1386286249;pankkake;I got quoted on options? 409241;1386286250;ThickAsThieves;"On top of all that, this isn't like trading on the New York Stock Exchange. Midday Wednesday, MPEx appeared to shut down, and the prices of the contracts disappeared. I was told this happens a lot. As of early Thursday, the exchange still wasn't listing prices. " 409242;1386286252;ThickAsThieves;awww 409243;1386286255;pankkake;I don't even know what options are! 409244;1386286279;ThickAsThieves;i dont see where any of us are quoted ... ? 409245;1386286310;Apocalyptic;don't see it either 409246;1386286324;Apocalyptic;pankkake, no look at the first comment author's avatar 409247;1386286328;Apocalyptic;it's you amirite 409248;1386286329;Vexual;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-12-2013#406136 not an actual quote 409249;1386286331;ozbot;#bitcoin-assets log 409250;1386286381;pankkake;Apocalyptic: haha, it's my avatar but not me 409251;1386286402;davout;pankkake: i thought it was you as well :-) 409252;1386286417;ThickAsThieves;oh i get ya 409253;1386286434;pankkake;I certainly don't mind the media talking about bitcoin, even if bad 409254;1386286441;ThickAsThieves;pankkakecat trolls even better than the real one 409255;1386286516;ThickAsThieves;forbes guy coulda at least gave the chan a shoutout sheesh 409256;1386286573;Apocalyptic;indeed 409257;1386286624;pankkake;at least he didn't mention that when he joined the discussion was about underage actresses 409258;1386286630;davout;lol 409259;1386286662;ThickAsThieves;wait'll he finds out about bitcoin securities 409260;1386286688;pankkake;they clearly have the power to pump any security or altcoin they want 409261;1386286695;davout;could've been worse, he could have walked in on mp explaining how he manages his slaves herd 409262;1386286763;Vexual;revealing sources instantly transmogriphys a senior editing journalist into a lowly blogger 409263;1386286765;benkay;one wonders if he noticed. 409264;1386286810;davout;would be funny if someone posted a link to the log in the comments 409265;1386286831;ThickAsThieves;now yer talkin 409266;1386286856;ThickAsThieves;Full transcript of the author's research here! 409267;1386286976;benkay;someone do that please. 409268;1386286993;Vexual;i wonder if they'll print it 409269;1386287011;Vexual;fortune still on nesstands? 409270;1386287027;pankkake;newstands still on? 409271;1386287085;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25700 @ 0.00079236 = 20.3637 BTC [+] 409272;1386287099;benkay;yessss exactly. 409273;1386287133;Vexual;nelson mandela issue, buy mpoe 409274;1386287153;mircea_popescu;lol wtf confusion in that guy's head 409275;1386287165;mircea_popescu;why is it the exchange's problem if the bot puts or doesn't put orders in 409276;1386287214;pankkake;"The best I could come up with is shorting the GPU manufacturers that bitcoin miners commonly use" in the comments 409277;1386287225;mircea_popescu;i suppose he missed the part where last month ppl made like 3k btc or w./e 409278;1386287230;pankkake;and the obligatory tulip bulp mention 409279;1386287266;mircea_popescu;i guess it's hard being clueless and yet havintg to write about shit. 409280;1386287623;ThickAsThieves;hey no one pointed out that bitcoin's worth more than Google 409281;1386287637;ThickAsThieves;(shares) 409282;1386287695;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.02888997 = 0.2889 BTC [+] {2} 409283;1386287756;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [7C] 15 @ 0.0077 = 0.1155 BTC 409284;1386287916;mircea_popescu;because google isn't backed by anything 409285;1386287923;Apocalyptic;mircea_popescu, well in your case the exchange is the market maker also 409286;1386287943;Apocalyptic;but he didn't mention that and seem to have no clue so yeah 409287;1386287965;Vexual;next time someone should probably wake mircea 409288;1386288029;benkay;dem market caps 409289;1386288030;mircea_popescu;Apocalyptic not really, i mean they're conglomerated but separate. 409290;1386288059;benkay;well, it's no surprise really - people don't understand even market capitalization. 409291;1386288152;benkay;Apocalyptic: the market maker not quoting prices is not anywhere near similar to the exchange going down. 409292;1386288162;Apocalyptic;benkay, I know that 409293;1386288222;Apocalyptic;I just pointed out that in this specific case MPEX and MPOE are somehow closely related, so it may be relevant to point it out if done correctly 409294;1386288244;mircea_popescu;moreover, the bot's under no obligation to quote 409295;1386288256;mircea_popescu;well yeah, that. 409296;1386288279;benkay;hey we have quotes on options again! 409297;1386288309;benkay;too late for the unfortunate article :( 409298;1386288350;Vexual;rushed for the china bank news no doubt 409299;1386288358;pankkake;well he meant that MPEx was unreliable basically. having the quotes back doesn't change that 409300;1386288390;mircea_popescu;well... the bot not quoting has little to do with mpex's reliability. 409301;1386288408;pankkake;then the bot was unreliable! 409302;1386288437;benkay;bringing some light to that "somehow" is the sort of thing one'd expect a 'journalist' to do. 409303;1386288562;benkay;you missed the sarcasm in the smiley. 409304;1386288598;mircea_popescu;well... the bot isn't particularly intended to be reliable. 409305;1386288625;benkay;senior editor can't distinguish market maker from market operator. 409306;1386288654;pankkake;senile editor 409307;1386288965;Apocalyptic;pankkake, did you say senile redditor ? 409308;1386288976;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18700 @ 0.00079292 = 14.8276 BTC [+] 409309;1386289035;Vexual;calls are riskier, so he stuck to looking at puts. 409310;1386289037;pankkake;redditors are babies 409311;1386289186;BingoBoingo;Why didn't he mention his failure to fund the CoinBR account with his credit card? http://finance.fortune.cnn.com/2013/12/05/betting-against-bitcoin-bubble/?iid=SF_F_River 409312;1386289222;Vexual;now that would have been some gritty investigative journalism 409313;1386289647;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 84 @ 0.00299499 = 0.2516 BTC [+] 409314;1386289712;nubbins`;i thought google was backed by the fact that they know everything about our private lives 409315;1386289789;pankkake;I wonder if there are futures for data storage 409316;1386289793;pankkake;google could use that 409317;1386289830;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [7C] 80 @ 0.0077 = 0.616 BTC 409318;1386289935;benkay;google is fiat currency 409319;1386289952;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [7C] 20 @ 0.0077 = 0.154 BTC 409320;1386290155;benkay;future for delivery of 100tb 409321;1386290359;pankkake;I have about 50tb of raw storage at home! not The Google yet, but nice 409322;1386290378;Vexual;thats a lot of blank dvds 409323;1386290416;nubbins`;not bad 409324;1386290423;Apocalyptic;lot of floppies 409325;1386290455;pankkake;my worst fear would be magnets 409326;1386290501;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 19 @ 0.02888997 = 0.5489 BTC [+] 409327;1386290562;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 9 @ 0.02888998 = 0.26 BTC [+] 409328;1386290623;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 4 @ 0.02899998 = 0.116 BTC [+] 409329;1386290745;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 16 @ 0.029 = 0.464 BTC [+] 409330;1386290839;nubbins`;cat has gone haywire 409331;1386290843;nubbins`;fucking with a zig-zag 409332;1386290875;nubbins`;pankkake you guys must have some cool zig-zags over there hey? 409333;1386291071;pankkake;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zig-Zag_(company) this? didn't know it even existed 409334;1386291072;ozbot;Zig-Zag (company) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 409335;1386291090;nubbins`;yah 409336;1386291098;nubbins`;big name in papers! 409337;1386291111;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 90 @ 0.00317074 = 0.2854 BTC [-] {6} 409338;1386291147;nubbins`;https://www.google.ca/search?q=zig-zag+cigarette+papers&tbm=isch 409339;1386291147;ThickAsThieves;http://www.polygon.com/2013/12/5/5177946/ouya-now-accepts-bitcoin-payments 409340;1386291149;ozbot;Ouya now accepts Bitcoin payments (update) | Polygon 409341;1386291156;nubbins`;much type. many smoke. wow. 409342;1386291167;pankkake;so ouya isn't dead yet 409343;1386291183;nubbins`;it does, however, go to bed at a more reasonable hour 409344;1386291199;ThickAsThieves;from the comments: "Next, Ouya starts accepting canned goods and other non perishable food items." 409345;1386291215;nubbins`;heh 409346;1386291231;nubbins`;i guess that guy's hot sauce won't cut it, then 409347;1386291288;ThickAsThieves;Bill Clinton doodles: http://cdn1.sbnation.com/assets/3678361/clinton2.jpg 409348;1386291294;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8690 @ 0.00079274 = 6.8889 BTC [-] 409349;1386291355;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16441 @ 0.00079024 = 12.9923 BTC [-] 409350;1386291380;ThickAsThieves;http://lightbox.time.com/2013/12/05/the-worlds-deadliest-drug-inside-a-krokodil-cookhouse/#4 409351;1386291380;ozbot;World’s Deadliest Drug: Photos and Video Inside a Krokodil Cookhouse - LightBox 409352;1386292018;deadweas1l;;;ticker 409353;1386292018;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1065.005, Best ask: 1073.98999, Bid-ask spread: 8.98499, Last trade: 1073.98999, 24 hour volume: 57435.83831195, 24 hour low: 870.001, 24 hour high: 1238.0, 24 hour vwap: 1062.0459 409354;1386292376;jamespeerless;seems like bit bet's method of calculating winnings is kind of flawed? it lends itself to horrible odds.. why would someone risk 1BTC to receive like .001 btc.. shouldn't they try to match bets of the same fixed odds and just return leftover amounts? 409355;1386292428;mircea_popescu;huh ? 409356;1386292444;mike_c;he wants tradesports 409357;1386292451;pankkake;perhaps you're looking at a bet that is soon to be ending? 409358;1386292454;Duffer1;it's not a booky site, just straight up bets 409359;1386292460;pankkake;oh 409360;1386292547;BingoBoingo;jamespeerless: You could make a bookie sort of site like that which trades and hedges on BitBet... 409361;1386292671;jamespeerless;i guess even disregarding the weight factor, if there's only .01BTC available on one option and you want to bet like 3BTC on the other side.. you are risking 3BTC to win the .01 409362;1386292697;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 9 @ 0.02959996 = 0.2664 BTC [+] 409363;1386292710;jamespeerless;i guess you'd be dumb to bet 3btc in that scenario then :P 409364;1386292740;pankkake;yeah, it's annoying. so I wait for someone to bet, but someone might be doing the same 409365;1386292792;jamespeerless;yeah wonder how you can fix that case 409366;1386292819;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 16 @ 0.029 = 0.464 BTC [-] 409367;1386292941;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.02309999 = 0.1155 BTC [-] {4} 409368;1386293307;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 166 @ 0.00299483 = 0.4971 BTC [-] {4} 409369;1386293529;BingoBoingo;jamespeerless: As long as your large BitBet bets are large enough to make the other side of the bet seem appealing, generally I've noticed the money to match generally shows up. 409370;1386293547;jamespeerless;yeah seems to make sense 409371;1386293672;BingoBoingo;jamespeerless: It also helps when you put the money down earlier in the bet, especially when it is a bet where either side could happen 409372;1386293696;jamespeerless;yeah gives you better odds and bigger winnings once the other money shows up 409373;1386293879;BingoBoingo;jamespeerless: Definitely, but you have to watch bitbet for these bets as they occur so money that opposes you can also cone in on favorable weight 409374;1386294161;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 319 @ 0.00316971 = 1.0111 BTC [-] {2} 409375;1386294222;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 78 @ 0.00315 = 0.2457 BTC [-] {5} 409376;1386295381;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33781999 BTC [-] 409377;1386295504;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23268 @ 0.0007892 = 18.3631 BTC [-] {3} 409378;1386295504;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34000001 BTC [+] 409379;1386295564;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.33951502 = 0.679 BTC [-] {2} 409380;1386295686;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.33779999 = 0.6756 BTC [-] {2} 409381;1386295695;benkay;one can also bet on BOTH SIDES ZOMG 409382;1386295747;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.34000001 = 0.68 BTC [+] {2} 409383;1386295930;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33779999 BTC [-] 409384;1386295991;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33779999 BTC [-] 409385;1386296113;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34000001 BTC [+] 409386;1386296158;javanomad;;;ticker 409387;1386296159;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1028.15001, Best ask: 1029.99999, Bid-ask spread: 1.84998, Last trade: 1030.0, 24 hour volume: 58609.48103979, 24 hour low: 870.001, 24 hour high: 1238.0, 24 hour vwap: 1053.94335 409388;1386296174;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34000001 BTC [+] 409389;1386296235;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33779999 BTC [-] 409390;1386296296;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33779999 BTC [-] 409391;1386296357;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.34010001 = 0.6802 BTC [+] {2} 409392;1386296479;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33779999 BTC [-] 409393;1386296540;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33779999 BTC [-] 409394;1386296577;javanomad;;;ud fnord 409395;1386296578;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fnord | A fnord is a propaganda word conditioned in the masses from a very young age to respond to, usually with fear, anxiety, or uneasiness, but unable t... 409396;1386296578;ozbot;Urban Dictionary: fnord 409397;1386296585;nubbins`;hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm 409398;1386296587;nubbins`;https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=COG.F#ui-tabs-1 409399;1386296595;nubbins`;"While the bitcoin price is high ($40+) it is a great time to invest in hardware, as we are getting the most out of our coin." 409400;1386296601;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.34010001 = 0.6802 BTC [+] {2} 409401;1386296608;Duffer1;lol... 409402;1386296613;nubbins`;sounds like everyone involved really did their due diligence 409403;1386296622;Duffer1;"they" are for sure, the customers... not so much 409404;1386296627;kakobrekla;STOP SLANDERING BRITNEY NOW 409405;1386296636;kakobrekla;OH MY GOD POOR BRITNEY 409406;1386296643;nubbins`;running mascara or it doesn't count 409407;1386296664;kakobrekla;i dont have a webcam 409408;1386296723;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33779999 BTC [-] 409409;1386296784;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33779999 BTC [-] 409410;1386296906;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.34010001 = 0.6802 BTC [+] {2} 409411;1386296918;kakobrekla;i dont see anything good on havelock 409412;1386296925;kakobrekla;just checked after some long time 409413;1386296929;benkay;it's almost enough to make a kid turn scammer 409414;1386296953;kakobrekla;the kid is a idiot scammer 409415;1386296963;kakobrekla;it was fuckin proven on the forum 409416;1386296968;kakobrekla;he also sucks cock. 409417;1386296975;kakobrekla;jurov` nudge nudge 409418;1386296985;nubbins`;ah, but does he have a webcam? 409419;1386296992;kakobrekla;not sure 409420;1386297000;kakobrekla;prolly on his faggotary macbook 409421;1386297004;nubbins`;call me when there's something to watch ;( 409422;1386297028;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.33789999 = 0.6758 BTC [-] {2} 409423;1386297029;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1904 @ 0.000105 = 0.1999 BTC [+] 409424;1386297030;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.1498999 BTC [-] 409425;1386297089;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.34010001 = 0.6802 BTC [+] {2} 409426;1386297110;benkay;hey kakobrekla what's the bitcoin forex hedge fund called? 409427;1386297176;BingoBoingo;kakobrekla: Are you sure his mouth is even clean enough to suck cocks? With all the the scam in there he might not have room... 409428;1386297211;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.33789999 = 0.6758 BTC [-] {2} 409429;1386297272;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.34010001 = 0.6802 BTC [+] {2} 409430;1386297273;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 7 @ 0.05025001 = 0.3518 BTC [-] {2} 409431;1386297333;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 5 @ 0.05025001 = 0.2513 BTC [-] {2} 409432;1386297334;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33789999 BTC [-] 409433;1386297353;kakobrekla;BingoBoingo you know he did find space for whatever inaba is packing. 409434;1386297360;kakobrekla;benkay panacea 409435;1386297394;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33789999 BTC [-] 409436;1386297395;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 3 @ 0.05025001 = 0.1508 BTC [-] 409437;1386297413;benkay;ThickAsThieves: setting up a panacea PT yet? 409438;1386297455;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 2 @ 0.05025 = 0.1005 BTC [-] 409439;1386297456;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.34010001 = 0.6802 BTC [+] {2} 409440;1386297506;BingoBoingo;kakobrekla: Well Inaba is also full of scam as well. When scam prevents adequate blood flow of course Inaba will only be able to offer Garr a limp and flexible member. 409441;1386297521;kakobrekla;hehe 409442;1386297532;javanomad;;;seen unbalanced 409443;1386297532;gribble;unbalanced was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 21 hours, 37 minutes, and 45 seconds ago: *Part Tops = what drunk people call Pop Tarts 409444;1386297577;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.33789999 = 0.6758 BTC [-] {2} 409445;1386297638;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34010001 BTC [+] 409446;1386297699;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34010001 BTC [+] 409447;1386297760;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.33779999 = 0.6756 BTC [-] {2} 409448;1386297821;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.34010001 = 0.6802 BTC [+] {2} 409449;1386297882;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.33779999 = 0.6756 BTC [-] {2} 409450;1386297943;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.34010001 = 0.6802 BTC [+] {2} 409451;1386297959;thestringpuller;;;ticker --markets all 409452;1386297959;gribble;(ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market |all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Mtgox. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure (1 more message) 409453;1386297963;thestringpuller;;;ticker --market all 409454;1386297971;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD last: 1040.03522, vol: 58949.60700610 | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 980.4, vol: 59279.49481105 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 960.0, vol: 58177.97009 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 986.99, vol: 11114.25670693 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 987.37, vol: 356.96774261 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 1002.7229, vol: 123607.91300000 | Volume-weighted last average: 996.977492472 409455;1386297994;BingoBoingo;.d 409456;1386297995;ozbot;707408283.05150 | Next Diff in 879 blocks | Estimated Change: 22.6255% in 4d 17h 18m 26s 409457;1386298004;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33779999 BTC [-] 409458;1386298065;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33789999 BTC [+] 409459;1386298126;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.34010001 = 0.6802 BTC [+] {2} 409460;1386298145;BingoBoingo;Looking on Ebay apparently DEC Alpha based hardware has been retaining some value http://www.ebay.com/itm/DS15-Alphastation-1GHz-CPU-1GB-Memory-DVD-DA-75CAA-AW-/200771528988?pt=US_Vintage_Computing_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2ebeea691c 409461;1386298187;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3378 BTC [-] 409462;1386298205;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: i suspect it's all for people who want to run OpenGenera. 409463;1386298226;asciilifeform;as seen here: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=186 409464;1386298232;asciilifeform;got a pile of these alphas right here. 409465;1386298240;asciilifeform;had to throw some out last year, to make space... 409466;1386298242;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Well, that's what I've been pricing alphastations for... 409467;1386298269;asciilifeform;my advice, try the pc version 1st 409468;1386298285;asciilifeform;it's a serious time commitment; not for everyone. 409469;1386298447;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Well As a hobby project I'm thinking of setting up a webserver and running the blog off of it. Basically rewriting the parts of wordpress I like and letting the rest die in a fire, perhaps literally http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2013/10/14/a-proper-barrel-fire-a-secure-way-to-dispose-of-data-storage/ 409470;1386298466;benkay;what, lisp in general or the whole symbolics compu-archaeology? 409471;1386298492;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33799999 BTC [+] 409472;1386298509;BingoBoingo;benkay: Just writing a blogging web ap for myself that I can confirm isn't running on x86 409473;1386298536;thestringpuller;;;bc,24hprc 409474;1386298536;gribble;Error: Failed to retrieve data. Try again later. 409475;1386298538;BingoBoingo;benkay: But also doing it on beefy enough hardware to just work 409476;1386298539;asciilifeform;well, genera comes with john c. mallery's cl-http. 409477;1386298542;asciilifeform;you can work up from there. 409478;1386298544;thestringpuller;dude what is the actual average price? 409479;1386298554;thestringpuller;the options don't seem to be priced right 409480;1386298564;BingoBoingo;thestringpuller: Nothing is priced right 409481;1386298570;asciilifeform;(btw i have it on fairly reliable rumor that mallery owns symbolics corp. now.) 409482;1386298578;BingoBoingo;O.o 409483;1386298593;benkay;sounds like something i'd do if i weren't busy acquring every btc in price 409484;1386298593;mike_c;you accounting for the 0.1 lot size? 409485;1386298598;thestringpuller;yea 409486;1386298599;benkay;trying to, and acquiring 409487;1386298614;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34010001 BTC [+] 409488;1386298626;thestringpuller;so right now average price of 0.1 lot is 99.6 right? 409489;1386298635;mircea_popescu;something like that 409490;1386298637;thestringpuller;so with a strike price of 110 409491;1386298645;thestringpuller;for O.USD.P110T 409492;1386298656;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: I've also been thinking about an Alpha+BSD+GNUGuille stack 409493;1386298676;thestringpuller;(110 - 99.6) / 99.6 no? 409494;1386298679;thestringpuller;;;calc (110 - 99.6) / 99.6 409495;1386298680;gribble;0.104417670683 409496;1386298681;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: you can use any old pile of junk, then, doesn't have to be a DEC. 409497;1386298686;benkay;;;ticker 409498;1386298686;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1046.96724, Best ask: 1052.97, Bid-ask spread: 6.00276, Last trade: 1046.0, 24 hour volume: 58953.24632437, 24 hour low: 870.001, 24 hour high: 1238.0, 24 hour vwap: 1052.78918 409499;1386298692;thestringpuller;am I doing that right mircea_popescu ? 409500;1386298702;mircea_popescu;thestringpuller seems it's morel ike 1050 409501;1386298712;thestringpuller;? 409502;1386298715;mircea_popescu;;;calc 5/105 409503;1386298716;gribble;0.047619047619 409504;1386298722;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: if all you want is a web server on a 'i personally set every damn bit' sort of machine, something like this: http://www.kyllikki.org/hardware/wwwpic2/ is a better project. 409505;1386298726;thestringpuller;how did you come up with that number 409506;1386298731;thestringpuller;sorry the 0.1 lot is throwing me off 409507;1386298732;thestringpuller;:( 409508;1386298779;asciilifeform;necromantically resurrecting ancient iron is not a panacea. the systems of the past had their own security flaws (irix, i'm looking at you) 409509;1386298793;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Thanks. I'm still in the reading, research, and playing with languages stage. 409510;1386298818;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: pick a reasonably capable microcontroller and learn that. 409511;1386298820;mircea_popescu;im going into the playing with tits stage. 409512;1386298822;mircea_popescu;later all. 409513;1386298851;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: I used to be fond of Sun Hardware, but a lot of flaws seem to come out of SPARC systems. 409514;1386298878;asciilifeform;it isn't the SPARC (or Alpha, or whoever) that is to blame, it's unix 409515;1386298883;asciilifeform;and cancerous complexity in general. 409516;1386298896;mike_c;it's a bug 409517;1386298898;BingoBoingo;Seems so really ascii 409518;1386298901;mike_c;http://mpex.co/?mpsic=O.USD.P110T 409519;1386298901;ozbot;O.USD.P110T last @0.00000000 409520;1386298909;mike_c;price is half there what it is on the homepage 409521;1386298913;BingoBoingo;mike_c: The problem is that over time bugs become deatures 409522;1386298919;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.33779999 = 0.6756 BTC [-] {2} 409523;1386298934;BingoBoingo;mike_c: Maybe the bot knows something you don't? 409524;1386298947;asciilifeform;there is something to be said for even the most humble microcontroller. the PIC16F84 (mentioned in the link, also my 1st micro as a kid) has separate address spaces for code and data. 409525;1386298950;asciilifeform;overflow that. 409526;1386298953;mike_c;er. homepage says 0.01, put page says 0.05. that's a bug :) 409527;1386298968;mike_c;derp. i was looking at sell on the put page. 409528;1386299009;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: I'll get to reading. 409529;1386299019;thestringpuller;hmmm 409530;1386299041;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34010001 BTC [+] 409531;1386299043;thestringpuller;http://api.bitcoincharts.com/v1/weighted_prices.json - average price doesn't seem to be 409532;1386299047;thestringpuller;1050 409533;1386299057;thestringpuller;dunno where popescu got that number 409534;1386299063;thestringpuller;I think the bot is misquoting 409535;1386299073;thestringpuller;either that or where it's getting it's average isn't available to us 409536;1386299086;thestringpuller;nanotube: you should really fix the ;;bc,24hprc when you get the chance 409537;1386299089;thestringpuller;;;bc,24hprc 409538;1386299098;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: complete instruction set: http://ece.wpi.edu/~wrm/Courses/EE2801/Notes/ee2801c00lec20.pdf 409539;1386299099;gribble;Error: Failed to retrieve data. Try again later. 409540;1386299157;asciilifeform;and yes, that's all of them. 409541;1386299166;mike_c;why misquoting? It's willing to buy the put at .0104, and that is basically intrinsic value. 409542;1386299166;BingoBoingo;My favorite part of IRC is the logs basically compile a reading list. 409543;1386299214;mike_c;seems right.. 409544;1386299226;asciilifeform;there is really very little more fun you could have as a programmer, than on a machine that you can completely understand. 409545;1386299280;mike_c;;;calc ((110 - 99.6) / 99.6) * 0.1 409546;1386299281;gribble;0.0104417670683 409547;1386299355;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Well as I view things I do more regularly (betting valuations in SAGE mostly) I generally thing of my self as a scripter more than a person who programs. I think I'm going to have fun with the PIC 409548;1386299399;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: learning a micro will teach you what everyone in the '80s knew: that low-level programming doesn't have to be a misery. 409549;1386299435;asciilifeform;avoid the ones that are typically used with a traditional OS (most of the modern offering - ARM, etc.) 409550;1386299446;asciilifeform;those are less pleasant to program directly. 409551;1386299774;BingoBoingo;Well asciilifeform Looks like I have a project nao, thanks 409552;1386299820;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Any particular FPGA toolchains worth leaning or do they get replaced too soon. 409553;1386299837;asciilifeform;don't learn a toolchain, learn verilog (or vhdl) 409554;1386299841;asciilifeform;i prefer verilog 409555;1386299872;asciilifeform;both xilinx ('coke'), altera 'pepsi', and lattice 'inca cola' will happily eat both. 409556;1386299896;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00314994 = 0.315 BTC [-] {2} 409557;1386299921;asciilifeform;never buy xilinx and altera boards new, they're pennies to the dollar on ebay and the like. 409558;1386299942;nubbins`;i had an inca cola t-shirt 409559;1386299948;asciilifeform;avoid boards specifically designed for cryptocoin mining, they are i/o-poor. 409560;1386299949;nubbins`;think i gave it away 409561;1386299958;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 64 @ 0.00313504 = 0.2006 BTC [-] {2} 409562;1386299993;nubbins`;micros are great, i made a MIDI clock signal generator some years ago 409563;1386300078;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 163 @ 0.00313513 = 0.511 BTC [+] {2} 409564;1386300139;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [7C] 28 @ 0.0077 = 0.2156 BTC 409565;1386300151;BingoBoingo;Cool, In about 15 years I might finally be a programmer 409566;1386300179;asciilifeform;more like 15 days 409567;1386300188;asciilifeform;buy a simple micro board, make a light blink. 409568;1386300192;asciilifeform;it will be fun. 409569;1386300322;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [7C] 22 @ 0.0077 = 0.1694 BTC 409570;1386300464;BingoBoingo;All I want for Christmas nao is the ability to make a light blink. 409571;1386301672;nanotube;thestringpuller: ah yes, so i should thanks for the ping. looks like bitcoincharts changed urls on me. 409572;1386302144;nanotube;thestringpuller: fixed 409573;1386302168;mike_c;;;bc,24hprc 409574;1386302169;gribble;993.56 409575;1386302180;mike_c;thanks! 409576;1386302220;nanotube;yw :) 409577;1386303005;benkay;hey what do you call a snuggie worn backwards? 409578;1386303015;benkay;A FUCKING BATHROBE 409579;1386303043;nubbins`;ahh lel 409580;1386303056;javanomad;seen unbalanced 409581;1386303062;nubbins`;unfortunately, a backwards bathrobe gets all up in your throat 409582;1386303063;javanomad;;;seen unbalanced 409583;1386303063;gribble;unbalanced was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 23 hours, 9 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: *Part Tops = what drunk people call Pop Tarts 409584;1386303067;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [7C] 20 @ 0.0077 = 0.154 BTC 409585;1386303086;kakobrekla;it does have a hany pukebag nubbins` 409586;1386303092;kakobrekla;handy 409587;1386303125;kakobrekla;given the bathrobe has a hoodie 409588;1386303126;kakobrekla;mine does 409589;1386303611;nubbins`;ah, lucky 409590;1386303613;nubbins`;i wish mine did 409591;1386303622;nubbins`;could also be used to hold popcorn 409592;1386304553;Kleeck;http://www.upworthy.com/every-war-on-drugs-myth-thoroughly-destroyed-by-a-retired-police-captain?g=2 409593;1386304554;ozbot;Every War On Drugs Myth Thoroughly Destroyed By A Retired Police Captain 409594;1386304572;nubbins`;waited til he retired, -1, ACAB 409595;1386304714;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 299 @ 0.00290109 = 0.8674 BTC [-] {7} 409596;1386304734;benkay;;;ud acab 409597;1386304735;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ACAB | All Cops Are Bastards A.C.A.B punks write it on stuff. 409598;1386304735;ozbot;Urban Dictionary: ACAB 409599;1386304897;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [7C] 133 @ 0.0077 = 1.0241 BTC 409600;1386305202;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 170 @ 0.0028902 = 0.4913 BTC [-] {5} 409601;1386305256;BingoBoingo;Kleek: who the fuck wants to watch an upworthy video? 409602;1386305325;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [7C] 70 @ 0.0077 = 0.539 BTC 409603;1386305336;BingoBoingo;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ7mhLp0abU 409604;1386305336;ozbot;homicide da union - YouTube 409605;1386305498;BingoBoingo;Seriously, Youtube, have they even hear of OPSEC? 409606;1386305504;nubbins`;7 ways this crazy police chief dismantled the war on drugs! 409607;1386305518;nubbins`;this police chief retired... you won't believe what he said next! 409608;1386305538;nubbins`;this gun is full of bullets, watch me hold it to my head and pull the trigger! 409609;1386305601;benkay;heh. videos. 409610;1386305684;nubbins`;seriously though, try to imagine something more cowardly than waiting until you retire to reveal that you knew your job was a crock of shit 409611;1386305702;nubbins`;so brave! 409612;1386305711;nubbins`;click to share! 409613;1386305743;nubbins`;watch this retired police captain masturbate in your face, just as he has for the past 35 years 409614;1386305752;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [7C] 19 @ 0.0077 = 0.1463 BTC 409615;1386305754;nubbins`;etc 409616;1386305866;KRS|gotyawallet;nubbins` i met some old dude like that the other night..from the moment i met him he seemed like a flake..i couldnt imagine a life like that. 409617;1386305871;benkay;upworthy. always derpful linkbait. 409618;1386305929;nubbins`;http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/rcmp-head-bob-paulson-supports-dna-collection-on-arrest-1.2452462 409619;1386305931;ozbot;RCMP head Bob Paulson supports DNA collection on arrest - Politics - CBC News 409620;1386305940;nubbins`;cops, great champions of justice 409621;1386305993;asciilifeform;2023: 'RCMP head Paul Bobson supports organ collection on arrest - Politics - CBC News.' 409622;1386306022;nubbins`;nod 409623;1386306032;nubbins`;paul son of bob son of paul 409624;1386306067;nubbins`;certainly the police wouldn't abuse this new power 409625;1386306102;nubbins`;certainly they wouldn't harvest dna from every single person at every political protest, starting the moment these new powers were granted 409626;1386306666;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.02959995 = 0.296 BTC [+] 409627;1386306910;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 195 @ 0.0029899 = 0.583 BTC [+] 409628;1386307154;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 77 @ 0.0029899 = 0.2302 BTC [+] 409629;1386307276;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19300 @ 0.00078636 = 15.1767 BTC [-] {2} 409630;1386307584;benkay;;;ticker 409631;1386307585;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1045.71239, Best ask: 1053.0, Bid-ask spread: 7.28761, Last trade: 1045.71239, 24 hour volume: 59162.14677524, 24 hour low: 870.001, 24 hour high: 1226.0, 24 hour vwap: 1049.52239 409632;1386307718;KRS|gotyawallet;Colleagues, is there such a thing as a continual throttled dump of sale of btc into the buys? 409633;1386307730;KRS|gotyawallet;without affecting market price much 409634;1386307734;BingoBoingo;KRS|gotyawallet: Sure. 409635;1386307735;KRS|gotyawallet;if the demand is there 409636;1386307743;KRS|gotyawallet;could that be what im seeing on gox? 409637;1386307761;KRS|gotyawallet;something is weird 409638;1386307947;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33789999 BTC [-] 409639;1386308130;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34010001 BTC [+] 409640;1386308252;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33779999 BTC [-] 409641;1386308344;KRS|gotyawallet;ok i think it was my view 409642;1386308435;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34020001 BTC [+] 409643;1386308618;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33779999 BTC [-] 409644;1386308740;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34030001 BTC [+] 409645;1386309857;youknowwhoiamand;—–BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK—– Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) mQINBFFGg7oBEADSzyOH2sVbcVhvRXFg2k7HuS9Z0w1KLVRfuYxRTz38m71CUScn 5FWnIn+p0KSY6V8idluT0+7hyn8XId0S+i1JLKUi3kl4WjkLx5EkWisQF6noEloF fMUXwpd8dguRkydNdiAIBb3Ghw6ItGEVr0O22KAQR8O9pPx2UIouO+Z6SeBmzJYC i+TJPce60PZ77OqVN3w2m8RYsgZrRjB8F8dKwW1niTsZ6ZUzac3QFJIKMng7r8+X q7ZqgwKMjpoRmeL5Hctwag0yMURNSoXP7rU5bdC8bDT6NIOImWK1+08DH6Vq8JCU 8e2Zakct3P8sjAAQyx 409646;1386309869;youknowwhoiamand;you know who i am and why i'm here 409647;1386309948;youknowwhoiamand;you gonna talk or not. 10 minutes and i'm leaving 409648;1386309999;BingoBoingo;youknowwhoiamand: Really? that isn;t a whole public key 409649;1386310048;benkay;what is this "weird"? 409650;1386310067;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: that's your own key! 409651;1386310091;asciilifeform;or the first few dozen bytes anyway 409652;1386310164;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: I know 409653;1386310188;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: He aign't got the privates. Think of this a a way of hailing 409654;1386310212;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: would be a tad bit more exciting if he signed with it. 409655;1386310298;benkay;;;gettrust r3wt 409656;1386310298;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user r3wt: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=r3wt | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=r3wt | Rated since: never 409657;1386310564;BingoBoingo;;;eauth BingoBoingo 409658;1386310565;gribble;Request successful for user BingoBoingo, hostmask BingoBoingo!~BingoBoin@unaffiliated/bingoboingo. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/309BB8D7F3251143 409659;1386310612;BingoBoingo;freenode:#bitcoin-otc:f2fc991490457cde3962ebe7fad562a9fb77854ea305aa08e2be6603 409660;1386311424;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.00078876 = 8.8341 BTC [+] {2} 409661;1386312400;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.3350004 = 1.675 BTC [-] {3} 409662;1386312461;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 13 @ 0.33239521 = 4.3211 BTC [-] {3} 409663;1386312617;BingoBoingo;;;ident r3wt 409664;1386312617;gribble;Nick 'r3wt', with hostmask 'r3wt!add8887f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.216.136.127', is not identified. 409665;1386312644;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.33133963 = 3.3134 BTC [-] {2} 409666;1386313193;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.33100001 = 0.993 BTC [-] 409667;1386313315;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.33100001 = 0.662 BTC [-] 409668;1386314117;dub;who is that and why are they here 409669;1386316426;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29233 @ 0.00079107 = 23.1253 BTC [+] {2} 409670;1386316645;Mayasaurus;r3wt 409671;1386318593;KRS|gotyawallet;r3wt had a bitnode address 409672;1386318664;Mayasaurus;KRS|gotyawallet: does he? 409673;1386318671;Mayasaurus;I'm looking for him. 409674;1386319582;KRS|gotyawallet;After China's news some (imo) good news: 409675;1386319584;KRS|gotyawallet;http://news.slashdot.org/story/13/12/05/2342208/this-whole-bitcoin-thing-could-be-big-says-bank-of-america 409676;1386319585;ozbot;This Whole Bitcoin Thing Could Be Big, Says Bank of America - Slashdot 409677;1386319633;KRS|gotyawallet;[sic] Bank of America "frowns at the possibility that regulators could step in and increase transaction costs.". 409678;1386319643;KRS|gotyawallet;lmao how could regulators do that? at the fiat exchange level? 409679;1386320879;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 111 @ 0.00299421 = 0.3324 BTC [+] {2} 409680;1386321367;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 197 @ 0.0029949 = 0.59 BTC [+] 409681;1386321654;zacm;regulators making things ireggular, as always 409682;1386321667;zacm;irregular actually 409683;1386321691;zacm;bank of america can buy as much btc as they like 409684;1386322282;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.145 BTC [-] 409685;1386322349;KRS|gotyawallet;all this f'n talk about bitcoin being worth $1300 is gonna fuck us for awhile. 409686;1386322527;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16307 @ 0.00078805 = 12.8507 BTC [-] 409687;1386322779;Apocalyptic;KRS|gotyawallet, why N 409688;1386322796;Apocalyptic;why would anyone actually think their valuation is relevant ? 409689;1386322856;Apocalyptic;because analysts are so accurate at evaluating stocks... let alone a technology that they can't really grasp 409690;1386323807;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 993 @ 0.00079086 = 0.7853 BTC [+] 409691;1386323895;KRS|gotyawallet;apocolyptic: my thoughts exactly.. 409692;1386323921;KRS|gotyawallet;we havent even scratched the surface of what btc can do and with that will come an increase of value 409693;1386323934;KRS|gotyawallet;just wait til africa starts buying..india.. 409694;1386323943;KRS|gotyawallet;there is going to be a shortage 409695;1386323992;KRS|gotyawallet;[im speculating] we could look back at this someday and say "I can't believe we used to own and move entire units of btc around.". 409696;1386324004;KRS|gotyawallet;I'm also worried about an unweildy blockchain. 409697;1386324014;KRS|gotyawallet;I'm hoping Satoshi took that into account. 409698;1386324051;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.145 BTC [-] 409699;1386324199;Apocalyptic;KRS|gotyawallet, you're concerned by the size ? 409700;1386324310;jurov_;KRS|gotyawallet: I don't know what is worrying about the blockchain. 409701;1386324334;KRS|gotyawallet;i rly dont care about the size, i just care that its managable. 409702;1386324334;jurov_;I built dedicated miniitx machine with celeron 837 and spare 300GB HDD 409703;1386324356;jurov_;ant it runs fine both bitcoind and litecoind atand other stuff 409704;1386324358;jurov_;at same time 409705;1386324363;Apocalyptic;i don't see an issue with manageability 409706;1386324365;jurov_;whole setup $150 409707;1386324378;KRS|gotyawallet;jurov: memories of forking come to mind? 409708;1386324380;Apocalyptic;slovakian hardware is cheap 409709;1386324387;jurov_;lol 409710;1386324461;jurov`;what about fork? 409711;1386324537;KRS|gotyawallet;im just sayin i was thinking that the block chain could become unwieldy over time/growth..i admit i dont know a lot about it, but we haven't got to this size and usage yet. 409712;1386325027;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 56 @ 0.00299633 = 0.1678 BTC [+] {2} 409713;1386326674;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 45 @ 0.05000024 = 2.25 BTC [-] {3} 409714;1386327040;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 80 @ 0.00299799 = 0.2398 BTC [+] 409715;1386327162;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [7C] 34 @ 0.0077 = 0.2618 BTC 409716;1386329815;KRS|gotyawallet;cnbc is at it again- they keep dropping the 'B' word. 409717;1386329824;KRS|gotyawallet;Marc Faber, editor and publisher of The Gloom, Boom & Doom Report, told CNBC on Friday he believes a "massive speculative bubble" has encroached on everything from stocks and bonds to alternative currency bitcoin and farmland. He attributed the vast bubble to "symptoms of excess liquidity 409718;1386329842;KRS|gotyawallet;I'm thinking if there are that many bubbles forming and btc crashes instead of rallys, gold and silver is going to pluto. 409719;1386329870;KRS|gotyawallet;btc and precious metals are quickly approaching a point. 409720;1386329890;KRS|gotyawallet;throw in agriculture, land plus stocks and bond securities and you have the perfect storm 409721;1386329913;KRS|gotyawallet;U.S. securities valuations are coming to a head imo 409722;1386329948;KRS|gotyawallet;game over, anyone who wasnt smart by taking profits is broke 409723;1386329961;KRS|gotyawallet;imo I'll go balls deep into precious metals 409724;1386329968;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12450 @ 0.00078376 = 9.7578 BTC [-] 409725;1386329993;KRS|gotyawallet;and if bitcoin rallys hell, I'll have a chair on the MPEX too. 409726;1386330041;KRS|gotyawallet;gl to all those who invested in zero coin or what the fuck 409727;1386330562;KRS|gotyawallet;(Read More: Faber: 'We are in a massive speculative bubble') http://www.cnbc.com/id/101235052 409728;1386330570;KRS|gotyawallet;Faber also referred to the rapid rise of bitcoin, the digital currency that crossed $1,200 early Friday, as an area affected by excess liquidity. 409729;1386330626;twizt;yea 409730;1386330632;twizt;mrkts are messed up... 409731;1386330724;twizt;the trade in the future is all about massive borrowing and investing proceeds into equities 409732;1386330731;twizt;but its not gonna work... 409733;1386330753;twizt;cuz they kept rates low and rallied stocks at same time 409734;1386330788;twizt;the trade happened b4 rates started rising 409735;1386331005;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.33033334 = 1.982 BTC [-] {2} 409736;1386331066;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 40 @ 0.33 = 13.2 BTC [-] {4} 409737;1386331481;jurov`;after the huge "easing", what else did they expect? 409738;1386331546;jurov`;"excess liquidity" oh my 409739;1386331576;pankkake;how is that "liquidity" going to bitcoin buyers? 409740;1386331586;pankkake;unless banks are now buying bitcoins 409741;1386331624;jurov`;the newly "minted" usd inevitably leaks off banks 409742;1386331642;pankkake;well not in my pockets at least :/ 409743;1386331663;twizt;too much free money 409744;1386331680;twizt;if ur a good creditworthy person (ie didnt get suckered into real estate investing pre collapse) 409745;1386331690;twizt;you can basically get any loan u want 409746;1386331694;jurov`;pankkake: if you sold any btc recently, then in fact, it did 409747;1386331694;pankkake;oh, true 409748;1386331697;pankkake;I have a loan :D 409749;1386331713;jurov`;heh , that too 409750;1386331738;twizt;yea like decent loans too with decent terms 409751;1386331747;twizt;just everyone else cant lol 409752;1386331779;pankkake;including a state 0% loan. I could have had two, but missed it due to bureaucracy (and now it doesn't exist) 409753;1386331814;pankkake;but at a point you could get about 40k€ 0% loan for real estate 409754;1386331885;pankkake;and my bank loan has pretty much no conditions 409755;1386331986;twizt;shit man i wish i could get a loan 409756;1386332002;twizt;been unemployed since april, sucks so much 409757;1386332015;pankkake;I lost my job a few months after taking the loan 409758;1386332080;pankkake;though unemployement really doesn't exist in my branch 409759;1386332097;twizt;yea i quit tho 409760;1386332097;pankkake;but I was really surprised by how easy it was to get it 409761;1386332100;twizt;lol 409762;1386332111;twizt;and ive been trying.. keep getting told im overqualified 409763;1386332112;pankkake;I hear it's harder to get loans now (in France), but still 409764;1386332134;twizt;i apply to jobs where i meet the 2 year experience mark.. still overqualified 409765;1386332136;pankkake;never understood that overqualified thing. must be another reason 409766;1386332145;twizt;yea def 409767;1386332149;pankkake;or they fear you won't stay? 409768;1386332155;twizt;was willing to take pay cut etc. 409769;1386332159;twizt;prolly 409770;1386332161;twizt;but i wouldnt do that 409771;1386332184;pankkake;that's what I got in some interviews, prove us you will stay with us 409772;1386332184;twizt;check this, i went to interview for a job right (finance/accounting), hiring manager saw that I could code 409773;1386332194;twizt;referred me to another job 409774;1386332198;twizt;within same company 409775;1386332212;twizt;i go for that job, talk to the SVP who tells me they'll create a hybrid finance/tech job for me 409776;1386332223;twizt;then tell me over overqualified.. for the job they said they would create for me 409777;1386332232;twizt;what kind of shit is that 409778;1386332235;pankkake;lol 409779;1386332276;twizt;and i cant compete with candidates with degrees in compsci 409780;1386332278;twizt;for compsci jobs 409781;1386332296;twizt;i could code, and figure stuff out to get things working.. but cant recite stuff off the top of my head 409782;1386332326;pankkake;eh, many small companies don't really care about diplomas (at least those where I worked) 409783;1386332335;pankkake;show that you can create something and you're better than 99% 409784;1386332342;twizt;yea but u know compsci jobs are gonna have compsci kids applying 409785;1386332407;twizt;i had a interview yesterday, and another one in 3 hrs 409786;1386332432;twizt;crossing my fingers 409787;1386332433;twizt;lol 409788;1386332657;pankkake;good luck :) 409789;1386332678;jurov`;twizt, we need writers, traders, anyone.. not just compsci 409790;1386332700;twizt;jurov`: well i was a risk analyst.developer at my last gig 409791;1386332712;twizt;was the leash to traders 409792;1386332735;twizt;so the programming helped 409793;1386332753;twizt;charge of wires, cash transfers, margin monitoring, etc. 409794;1386332756;jurov`;why not throw the cv in here? 409795;1386332783;twizt;just broadcast CV to random peeps? 409796;1386332784;twizt;lol 409797;1386332789;twizt;i wanna kno what im applying to first! 409798;1386332799;twizt;and for WHO 409799;1386332828;jurov`;risk analysis indeed :D 409800;1386332856;twizt;u might google me and find out im really sexy and start stalking me too 409801;1386332858;twizt;dont want that 409802;1386332866;twizt;;) 409803;1386332877;jurov`;we're past that point, i'm talking to you already 409804;1386332881;jurov`;do you realize? 409805;1386332905;twizt;realize what exactly o_O 409806;1386332920;jurov`;nm 409807;1386332939;jurov`;oh you wrote stalking, i read talking 409808;1386332946;twizt;haha 409809;1386332957;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 53 @ 0.0031201 = 0.1654 BTC [+] 409810;1386332982;jurov`;i can keep tabs on you too, no problem ;) 409811;1386332997;twizt;i cant wait to get a job 409812;1386333004;twizt;im gonna pour money into my sauce man 409813;1386333008;twizt;and be a sauce millionaire lol 409814;1386333083;jurov`;pretty unsanitary, if you ask me 409815;1386333106;twizt;figuratively 409816;1386333113;twizt;not literally 409817;1386333282;KRS|gotyawallet;twizt: where are you located? 409818;1386333307;twizt;new york metro 409819;1386333310;KRS|gotyawallet;trying to get a feel for your job market 409820;1386333315;twizt;connecticut 409821;1386333338;twizt;there's jobs, but usually goes to family members 409822;1386333358;KRS|gotyawallet;did you used to ride the weehawken train 409823;1386333365;twizt;nah 409824;1386333368;twizt;metro north 409825;1386333373;KRS|gotyawallet;damn shame that is 409826;1386333380;twizt;? 409827;1386333394;KRS|gotyawallet;train wreck not far from manhattan 409828;1386333403;twizt;oh yea i saw that 409829;1386333405;KRS|gotyawallet;80 mph on a 30 curve 409830;1386333412;twizt;that was metro north man 409831;1386333417;twizt;the derailed one 409832;1386333423;twizt;derailed in the bronx 409833;1386333429;KRS|gotyawallet;oh..been a long time since i've been in New York City 409834;1386333466;KRS|gotyawallet;anyway good luck with that later 409835;1386333474;twizt;ty 409836;1386333491;KRS|gotyawallet;check it theres also jobs for bitcoin saw it on a website 409837;1386333506;KRS|gotyawallet;avoid sam 409838;1386333747;KRS|gotyawallet;jurov: you looking for talent? 409839;1386333757;jurov`;yes 409840;1386333768;KRS|gotyawallet;I dont even know what you do besides coinbr 409841;1386333804;KRS|gotyawallet;I'm down for whatever, although I made plans since 01 november to take the rest of the year off. 409842;1386333812;jurov`;my first "startup" was simpleshell.com 409843;1386333824;jurov`;if anyone could take it over, would be glad 409844;1386333830;jurov`;have many other ideas, too 409845;1386333857;KRS|gotyawallet;nice, does this fully pipe out too? to other web sessions? devices? 409846;1386333870;KRS|gotyawallet;| /dev/whatever 409847;1386333894;KRS|gotyawallet;> /dev/sound etc 409848;1386333906;jurov`;dont think you have the permissions 409849;1386333915;KRS|gotyawallet;its a real shell? 409850;1386333937;jurov`;but if you can annoy aws staff by shrieking souds, by all means do it 409851;1386333947;KRS|gotyawallet;hah 409852;1386333973;jurov`;try researching if it's real ;) 409853;1386333995;KRS|gotyawallet;ok thats one of my things 409854;1386334015;KRS|gotyawallet;hardened huh jv2? 409855;1386334046;KRS|gotyawallet;i'll see about that..i have editor, a compiler..nice 409856;1386334057;KRS|gotyawallet;i'll have to start trolling memory locations =D 409857;1386334086;KRS|gotyawallet;did you hear that researchers have found a way to look outside of a vm, like a vmware virtual machine for instance 409858;1386334106;mircea_popescu;yes. 409859;1386334123;jurov`;that's why it's limited to 15min.. would not be so easy to upkeep otherwise 409860;1386334138;KRS|gotyawallet;not sure if they patched it, but it read as a huge problem, because vmware shares memory, you can grab the memory contents of other machines and even the host 409861;1386334140;mircea_popescu;how's the limit help tho ? 409862;1386334142;jurov`;so far it was not haacked , only some dos 409863;1386334164;KRS|gotyawallet;i wish i had more time, if theres a compiler and a text editor i could start doing funny stuff 409864;1386334169;jurov`;anyway, if you can break outside of aws container, i'm interested 409865;1386334177;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1058 @ 0.00300122 = 3.1753 BTC [+] {4} 409866;1386334179;KRS|gotyawallet;i dabble in security 409867;1386334185;KRS|gotyawallet;ok 409868;1386334190;jurov`;i can extend you session if you want 409869;1386334190;mircea_popescu;http://i.imgur.com/lef99jm.jpg << guess the city./ 409870;1386334204;KRS|gotyawallet;ill hit you up about that 409871;1386334205;twizt;china 409872;1386334210;twizt;lol 409873;1386334212;KRS|gotyawallet;Somalia? 409874;1386334220;mircea_popescu;shanghai yes 409875;1386334232;KRS|gotyawallet;dont tell me thats china smog 409876;1386334233;mircea_popescu;the funny part is, back when the center was in the west, it'd have been london, or ny. 409877;1386334236;mircea_popescu;it is. 409878;1386334238;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1078 @ 0.00301626 = 3.2515 BTC [+] {6} 409879;1386334248;KRS|gotyawallet;those poor bastards are living in an ashtray 409880;1386334250;mircea_popescu;bwahaha this takes the cake 409881;1386334271;mircea_popescu;mpoe-pr "o hey there you are. i had a nightmare. you and inaba were taking me to the urologist." 409882;1386334293;jurov`;KRS|gotyawallet:basically i think if you add btc/ltc payments, it can make something 409883;1386334299;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 4409 @ 0.00301993 = 13.3149 BTC [+] {6} 409884;1386334302;jurov`;]currently it's like $10/mo from the ads 409885;1386334330;jurov`;but of course, stakes get higher from permanent shell access 409886;1386334373;KRS|gotyawallet;jurov, I need suid on /bin/sh plz 409887;1386334392;jurov`;it's mounted nosuid anyway :P 409888;1386334395;KRS|gotyawallet;bah 409889;1386334460;KRS|gotyawallet;just a jail 409890;1386334470;KRS|gotyawallet;with a hook to javascript maybe? 409891;1386334515;jurov`;the anyterm does it 409892;1386334533;mircea_popescu;stop whining and get your own root :D 409893;1386334545;KRS|gotyawallet;i like ez 409894;1386334570;KRS|gotyawallet;will social engineering work? :P 409895;1386334585;mircea_popescu;http://bitbet.us/bet/645/bitcoin-difficulty-at-or-above-5b-before-june/ 409896;1386334586;ozbot;BitBet - Bitcoin difficulty at or above 5B before June 409897;1386334589;mircea_popescu;here we go, get it while it's hawt. 409898;1386334605;jurov`;to me? dunno, i made even burnside apologize publicly 409899;1386334656;mircea_popescu;what was that about ? 409900;1386334688;jurov`;burnside was trolling coinbr on trolltalk 409901;1386334726;jurov`;some year ago. i just just politely replied and waited for him to repent 409902;1386334736;jurov`;so much for social engineering 409903;1386334783;mircea_popescu;a a 409904;1386334796;mircea_popescu;i recall that, but i think krs meant "gets your pw" 409905;1386334801;KRS|gotyawallet;heh 409906;1386334806;KRS|gotyawallet;i didnt know you guys knew this stuff 409907;1386334816;KRS|gotyawallet;i thought you were all finance propellerheads 409908;1386334831;mircea_popescu;your irony is showing 409909;1386334832;jurov`;oh and you can actually get the pw. if you promise to take it somewhere 409910;1386334834;KRS|gotyawallet;and finance geniuses i must say 409911;1386334845;jurov`;maybe even IPO on havelock :DDD 409912;1386334861;KRS|gotyawallet;haha how are they doing since panama 409913;1386334920;jurov`;see the log yest 409914;1386334928;KRS|gotyawallet;jurov i might start doing some thinking about this- 409915;1386334947;KRS|gotyawallet;im seeing a btc hosting provider offering 409916;1386334958;thestringpuller;.d 409917;1386334970;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 60 @ 0.003014 = 0.1808 BTC [-] 409918;1386334979;mircea_popescu;Fifty thousand people signed up online for New Jerseys gambling sites in the first week. That compares with 741 who signed up for Obamacare during all of October. 409919;1386334992;mircea_popescu;apparently just-dice is siolid competition for new york. 409920;1386335005;jurov`;dunno, there are throngs hosting providers.. offering a shell you can do stuff in immediately it's better imo 409921;1386335025;KRS|gotyawallet;pay per minute hosting 409922;1386335028;mircea_popescu;KRS|gotyawallet there's certainly a market, asciilifeform long wanted a host, i asked namworld for a price like a month ago, still waiting. 409923;1386335036;thestringpuller;;;bc,24hprc 409924;1386335036;gribble;1017.35 409925;1386335039;KRS|gotyawallet;wonder whats special about this 409926;1386335086;KRS|gotyawallet;i'm going to think about this 409927;1386335090;jurov`;no messing up with installation, searching the right packages 409928;1386335116;KRS|gotyawallet;its just a jail that can be rebooted at any time right 409929;1386335132;KRS|gotyawallet;cant mess anything up it comes form an image 409930;1386335206;jurov`;yes 409931;1386335281;jurov`;the us contractor just recommended me to use niggas.txt next time :D 409932;1386335303;mircea_popescu;lol win 409933;1386335334;mircea_popescu;you've done your part reclaiming that unfortunate word, ThickAsThieves wouild be proud 409934;1386335458;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 46 @ 0.00314499 = 0.1447 BTC [+] 409935;1386335461;KRS|gotyawallet;damnit you've got me mesmerized with this damn terminal 409936;1386335566;KRS|gotyawallet;I got it- Run your very own Supernode! Virtual terminal access. 0.03 BTC/hour. http://simpleshell.com 409937;1386335570;ThickAsThieves;lol 409938;1386335599;ThickAsThieves;i assume he said NOT to use niggers.txt next time 409939;1386335615;pankkake;just say you're taking it back https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWdVwt2deY4 409940;1386335729;KRS|gotyawallet;so who here is near chennai 409941;1386335746;KRS|gotyawallet;this term leaks other people's IP addresses..i'm thinking ThickAsThieves recently logged in 409942;1386335754;KRS|gotyawallet;or tried simpleshell 409943;1386335755;KRS|gotyawallet;? 409944;1386335764;KRS|gotyawallet;no 409945;1386335769;KRS|gotyawallet;someone from india 409946;1386335785;jurov`;i was actually thinking to publish the IP via ident 409947;1386335808;jurov`;cuz i had it running here at home for few years and got banned from freenode :D 409948;1386335820;jurov`;i just banned irc ports instead 409949;1386335825;KRS|gotyawallet;might not want it to be persisent, each time a user comes in this stuff should be sanitized 409950;1386335842;KRS|gotyawallet;thanks for including nmap =D 409951;1386335883;jurov`;yes that's the idea, everything included... but SYNs are rate limited 409952;1386335918;ThickAsThieves;who's spying on me now? 409953;1386336015;KRS|gotyawallet;ThickAsThieves HAH!! You better buy on your call options, time is quickly approaching. I'd like in on that too- 409954;1386336030;KRS|gotyawallet;ThickAsThieves HAH!! You better buy on your call options, time is quickly approaching. I'd like in on that too- 409955;1386336035;ThickAsThieves;? 409956;1386336038;KRS|gotyawallet;16:06:35 ThickAsThieves: - You write a 2013 $100,000 call option to your bitcoins, so that I can buy them from you anytime, by just sending you $10 million U.S. Dollars 409957;1386336038;KRS|gotyawallet;16:06:35 ThickAsThieves: - If I do not redeem your bitcoins before 31. December 2013, you get my 1 bitcoin as I lose the bet 409958;1386336065;KRS|gotyawallet;reading old logs 409959;1386336072;ThickAsThieves;i never said that 409960;1386336078;KRS|gotyawallet;uhh..heh 409961;1386336087;ThickAsThieves;i'm confused 409962;1386336095;KRS|gotyawallet;sure u did 409963;1386336103;jurov`;KRS, so lame.. hire pankkake instead 409964;1386336108;KRS|gotyawallet;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-05-2013&bots=true 409965;1386336111;ozbot;#bitcoin-assets log 409966;1386336172;KRS|gotyawallet;whats up jurov 409967;1386336177;ThickAsThieves;[08:21] Which hole does it go in? 409968;1386336183;KRS|gotyawallet;HAH 409969;1386336205;jurov`;i was thinking you want to social engineer TAT 409970;1386336226;KRS|gotyawallet;naw but i could tho 409971;1386336255;ThickAsThieves;you cant social engineer me but there are surely enough tidbits in that log to sort out who i am 409972;1386336264;KRS|gotyawallet;lmao rly 409973;1386336271;KRS|gotyawallet;so..let me get this straight. 409974;1386336276;ThickAsThieves;have fun reading it all 409975;1386336284;KRS|gotyawallet;You can't be social engineered but you sure as hell can be smurfed or hacked. 409976;1386336298;ThickAsThieves;smurfed? 409977;1386336303;ThickAsThieves;what's your deal? 409978;1386336306;KRS|gotyawallet;oh im sorry i thought you were saying this wasnt you 409979;1386336315;ThickAsThieves;what wasnt me? 409980;1386336346;KRS|gotyawallet;you said you never said that but its there in the logs 409981;1386336357;ThickAsThieves;i qwas quoting someone else ya turd 409982;1386336364;KRS|gotyawallet;gotcha 409983;1386336408;ThickAsThieves;this is what i get for talking to Chaang-Noi I guess 409984;1386336421;KRS|gotyawallet;;;seen chaang-noi 409985;1386336421;gribble;chaang-noi was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 18 hours, 24 minutes, and 56 seconds ago: ch0000 ch0000! 409986;1386336427;KRS|gotyawallet;;;seen bowjob 409987;1386336427;gribble;bowjob was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 32 weeks, 3 days, 14 hours, 20 minutes, and 17 seconds ago: lol 409988;1386336524;KRS|gotyawallet;simpleshell.com theme is remniscent of my SCO/Unix days 409989;1386336559;KRS|gotyawallet;Santa Cruz Operations had a solid future if they didnt let opportunity pass them by. 409990;1386336724;mircea_popescu;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=271711.220 lol this is going well 409991;1386336752;pankkake;plz don't hack me 409992;1386336762;pankkake;I'm in here without any protection 409993;1386336779;KRS|gotyawallet;rly 409994;1386336786;jurov`;pankkake is ~anus@inara.p.engu.in (http://headfucking.net/) 409995;1386336789;jurov`;mhm 409996;1386336800;KRS|gotyawallet;you know you cant dangle something like this in front of me..i'll get lost in here for hours 409997;1386336817;jurov`;that was exactly the intent 409998;1386336826;KRS|gotyawallet;i havent slept all night =/ 409999;1386336841;KRS|gotyawallet;ill let your imagination let you figure out why 410000;1386336865;ThickAsThieves;crack? 410001;1386336867;KRS|gotyawallet;nice when i look to see who's logged in, I'm not even logged in.. 410002;1386336869;KRS|gotyawallet;close 410003;1386336884;ThickAsThieves;baking soda? 410004;1386336888;KRS|gotyawallet;nay 410005;1386336903;KRS|gotyawallet;thats for crack 410006;1386336914;KRS|gotyawallet;i'm white 410007;1386336923;KRS|gotyawallet;not a nigga 410008;1386337092;thestringpuller;#notanigga 410009;1386337093;thestringpuller;https://twitter.com/search?q=%23notanigga 410010;1386337137;ThickAsThieves;lol i hadnt seen this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yc6Hp_Zq3rU 410011;1386337156;ThickAsThieves;ZT goes all out with these things huh 410012;1386337908;ThickAsThieves;Bugpoweder is that you that bought the white Tesla? 410013;1386338021;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1300 @ 0.00302 = 3.926 BTC [+] 410014;1386338037;KRS|gotyawallet;Well done Jurov 410015;1386338047;KRS|gotyawallet;i see you have skillz 410016;1386338074;KRS|gotyawallet;i have gathered some notes and know a few things about this 410017;1386338077;Bugpowder;nope 410018;1386338085;Bugpowder;I'm kinda annoyed 410019;1386338091;Bugpowder;about that 410020;1386338246;KRS|gotyawallet;the newones are tits 410021;1386338447;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 140 @ 0.00302 = 0.4228 BTC [+] 410022;1386338813;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 38 @ 0.00314499 = 0.1195 BTC [+] 410023;1386338821;KRS|gotyawallet;http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=KWwG6gsy 410024;1386338978;Bugpowder;MPEX made CNN. 410025;1386338978;Bugpowder;http://finance.fortune.cnn.com/2013/12/05/betting-against-bitcoin-bubble/ 410026;1386338979;ozbot;How to bet against the bitcoin megabubble - The Term Sheet: Fortune's deals blogTerm Sheet 410027;1386338996;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 455 @ 0.00291699 = 1.3272 BTC [-] {4} 410028;1386339047;ThickAsThieves;we provided most of that guys research in this channel 410029;1386339057;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 542 @ 0.00289061 = 1.5667 BTC [-] {4} 410030;1386339156;Bugpowder;holy fucking SP500 410031;1386339240;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [7C] 35 @ 0.0077 = 0.2695 BTC 410032;1386339815;jurov`;why he does insist on getting long with majority of the btc? 410033;1386340155;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 43 @ 0.00314499 = 0.1352 BTC [+] 410034;1386340216;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.00291 = 1.455 BTC [+] 410035;1386341338;oleganza;I had an idea recently about idiot-proof Bitcoin vault 410036;1386341361;oleganza;you move money to P2SH multisig scripts and the pubkeys are owned by your friends 410037;1386341372;davout;oleganza: hello! 410038;1386341375;oleganza;hi 410039;1386341381;oleganza;since it's P2SH they don't know where your money is, good for privacy 410040;1386341403;pankkake;coucou 410041;1386341436;oleganza;also you can have 20 separate transactions, so when you redeem one, you do not expose all your money 410042;1386341467;oleganza;to be idiot-proof, the wallet app should also allow distributed backup. In case you lose your password, you your own backup. 410043;1386341486;oleganza;in other words, underlying script (which is hashed into P2SH address) should be backed up somewhere 410044;1386341487;davout;oleganza: you'd still be able to somewhat link it to txes up the chain, especially if they all look similar in the way they all spend to P2SH 410045;1386341519;oleganza;mix money before that 410046;1386341520;nubbins`;salut 410047;1386341643;oleganza;so: backing up the wallet on some 3rd party service does not solve a problem of forgotten key 410048;1386341661;oleganza;ultimately, it's your friends who can trust you to give you back the back up 410049;1386341685;oleganza;so the idea is to send the actual scripts for P2SH to the same friends who own the keys 410050;1386341686;pankkake;well, you trust that your friends won't betray you all at once 410051;1386341693;oleganza;yup 410052;1386341710;oleganza;and you don't need to remember a password. You just go to them 410053;1386341722;oleganza;but to preserve privacy, they should not know the script contents 410054;1386341732;oleganza;otherwise they will find out how much money you have 410055;1386341745;oleganza;so i want to mask some pubkeys from the script 410056;1386341751;pankkake;can be done with many X-of-Y backup systems too 410057;1386341812;oleganza;essentially it is x-of-y backup system, but without passwords 410058;1386341826;oleganza;because i'm trying to solve a problem "I saved $1M 5 years ago" 410059;1386341918;oleganza;"and now i don't remember my password" 410060;1386341920;davout;how is it different from shamir's scheme ? 410061;1386341938;davout;unlock arbitrary data with N out of M secrets 410062;1386341946;oleganza;shamir's scheme generates all numbers in one place 410063;1386341953;davout;ah that's right 410064;1386341955;oleganza;here i need all pubkeys to be created in different places 410065;1386341961;oleganza;and never have all keys in one machine 410066;1386341962;oleganza;ever 410067;1386341980;oleganza;so i can have strong security promise "even if machine is compromised, it can't do something you don't want" 410068;1386342008;oleganza;assuming you didn't lost all money before making P2SH transfer 410069;1386342029;oleganza;so you can use your shitty windows all day long 410070;1386342068;nubbins`;http://static2.businessinsider.com/image/51f637eeeab8ea9153000002-480/barack-obama-may-photos.jpg 410071;1386342077;davout;so multisig could do the trick, except for the privacy concerns, right? 410072;1386342098;oleganza;and backup concerns 410073;1386342106;oleganza;privacy is easy: you don't show people your script 410074;1386342120;oleganza;they cannnot find your p2sh hash on the chain using their pubkeys 410075;1386342132;oleganza;but i want to backup the script with the same people 410076;1386342138;oleganza;but still keep my privacy 410077;1386342162;oleganza;so i want to give them masked scripts 410078;1386342246;oleganza;if the script is 3 pubkeys, then in 2-of-3 scheme, 1 pubkey will be masked 410079;1386342251;oleganza;with ******, that is 410080;1386342284;oleganza;so you will see "* B C", another guy will see "A * C" and third guy will have "A B *" 410081;1386342303;oleganza;this will prevent you from finding p2sh transaction on blockchain 410082;1386342326;oleganza;and still, i can get these portions from m-of-n people and get my original script, even if I lose all backups myself 410083;1386342396;davout;oleganza: if you manage to find the holy grail of perfect security and perfect usability you're my new god 410084;1386342406;oleganza;with a proper UI (which is the whole point), my mom can have some shitty password on her wallet and move money like that to 5 of her children. She can't be robbed and her privacy is good enough 410085;1386342410;nubbins`;at the risk of sounding silly, why not just make a multi-part rar, create some .par files, and distribute those to friends? 410086;1386342435;nubbins`;ah, nm, don't think i fully read what you guys were discussing 410087;1386342458;oleganza;multi-part RAR might work as well 410088;1386342492;oleganza;the big problem is how to send all this stuff from the app 410089;1386342497;oleganza;so it's easy to use and always works 410090;1386342507;nubbins`;well, should be trivial to create rars and pars 410091;1386342512;nubbins`;all that's command-line stuff 410092;1386342558;nubbins`;so you create a 5-part rar and 4 pars, distribute 1 par to each of 4 friends, then delete 1 or more rars from your collection 410093;1386342591;nubbins`;delete 1, then any 1 friend can complete it 410094;1386342595;nubbins`;delete 3, then you need 3 friends 410095;1386342596;nubbins`;etc 410096;1386342661;oleganza;sort of 410097;1386342695;oleganza;regarding usability 410098;1386342713;oleganza;people can generate keys in their apps like yours 410099;1386342716;oleganza;and send them by email 410100;1386342740;oleganza;you can verify that the key is good by checking on phone (to ensure against man in the middle attack) 410101;1386342749;oleganza;only pubkeys are sent 410102;1386342757;nubbins`;PARs would be tiny for something like this, a few tens of kb max 410103;1386342759;oleganza;you add those in your addressbook (built-in the app) 410104;1386342768;nubbins`;md5 checksums for checking 410105;1386342802;nubbins`;"hey bro do an md5 on that par i sent you, should start with abc and end with xyz" 410106;1386342815;oleganza;:) 410107;1386342893;pankkake;everyone's checking only the start and end 410108;1386342898;pankkake;this is so vulnerable 410109;1386342910;nubbins`;well 410110;1386342918;nubbins`;is it? :( 410111;1386342921;oleganza;start is as good as end 410112;1386342931;oleganza;then inside the app you create a multisig transaction and choose people and their keys. 410113;1386342932;nubbins`;realistically you can rattle the whole thing off 410114;1386342948;nubbins`;takes ten seconds 410115;1386342950;pankkake;I think some attacks were demonstrated 410116;1386342956;nubbins`;ah, would be curious to see that 410117;1386342959;oleganza;now your wallet must send to all these people partial backup of this transaction. 410118;1386343020;oleganza;simplest way is to go through my server (me == developer of the app), but the backup needs to be authenticated at least 410119;1386343024;oleganza;at most, encrypted. 410120;1386343029;nubbins`;slim odds that someone would MITM your email and modify your attachment maliciously in such a way that the beginning and end 3-4 chars of the md5 hash were the same 410121;1386343041;oleganza;and the wallet apps are sitting behind awful firewalls and all this shit 410122;1386343058;oleganza;so i don't want too much p2p headache 410123;1386343173;oleganza;nubbins`: so the problem ends with establishing authentication pubkey in the first place 410124;1386343175;oleganza;securely 410125;1386343181;oleganza;and then signing all interacting with that key 410126;1386343199;oleganza;e.g. the guy sends me his key and on the phone verifies half of the bytes 410127;1386343221;oleganza;then it's in my wallet addressbook and app can automatically do the rest through my server, or p2p, or whatever 410128;1386343255;nubbins`;sorry man, it's too early for me to be wrapping my head around this 410129;1386343275;nubbins`;if it's a pubkey, why secure it at all? 410130;1386343283;nubbins`;what's someone gonna do with it? 410131;1386343429;oleganza;pubkey identifying your friend can be MITMed 410132;1386343473;asciilifeform;the phuture: paper 'who's who' comes back. for pubkeys. you read it here first... 410133;1386343473;oleganza;and your p2sh script is a list of pubkeys from all your N friends. This better be kept secret from them so they don't know where's your money 410134;1386343518;nubbins`;pubkey posters on telephone poles 410135;1386343558;oleganza;ok, no per-identity pubkey 410136;1386343569;oleganza;it'll be per-purpose 410137;1386343576;oleganza;idea: a friend sends you his pubkey 410138;1386343584;oleganza;you import it under his name in your addressbook 410139;1386343624;oleganza;addressbook chooses perfectly randomly some internal 4 bytes and asks you to verify them with your friend 410140;1386343669;oleganza;fairly good protection against MITM 410141;1386343678;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: As an S.NSA product? Printed by nubbins? 410142;1386343707;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: perhaps one day. 410143;1386343754;nubbins`;newsprint is cheap, i could push out a rag every so often for minimal cost 410144;1386343761;nubbins`;which of you guys lives in MD? 410145;1386343762;oleganza;NSA may listen every email, but less likely to MITM you specifically 410146;1386343881;thestringpuller;;;later tell Bugpowder why are they still calling it a bubble? 410147;1386343881;gribble;The operation succeeded. 410148;1386343887;nubbins`;HEH 410149;1386343894;nubbins`;because regret 410150;1386343927;thestringpuller;On top of all that, this isn't like trading on the New York Stock Exchange. Midday Wednesday, MPEx appeared to shut down, and the prices of the contracts disappeared. I was told this happens a lot. As of early Thursday, the exchange still wasn't listing prices. What's more, after running through my math of the trade with a Coinbr broker in a chat room, with the conclusion that basically the trade doesn't make sen 410151;1386343935;thestringpuller;GOD 410152;1386343939;thestringpuller;this fuck is so uninformed 410153;1386343942;thestringpuller;MPEX wasn't shut down 410154;1386343946;thestringpuller;it never shuts down 410155;1386343952;thestringpuller;the bot just doesn't quote when bitcoin charts fucks up 410156;1386343956;thestringpuller;blame bitcoin charts not mpex 410157;1386343957;thestringpuller;jesus 410158;1386343977;nubbins`;pretty scathing media appearance 410159;1386343995;nubbins`;'s what you get for talking to reporters ;p 410160;1386344084;thestringpuller;;;bc,24hprc 410161;1386344084;gribble;1016.26 410162;1386344090;pankkake;well talking to journalists is exactly like talking to cops 410163;1386344096;pankkake;everything you say may and will be used against you 410164;1386344109;thestringpuller;that's why niggas don't talk to da popo 410165;1386344114;thestringpuller;NO SNITCHIN' 410166;1386344142;pankkake;$avg 410167;1386344144;mpexbot;pankkake: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. 410168;1386344293;mircea_popescu;oleganza this sounds like making it more idiot vulnerable. 410169;1386344340;nubbins`;putting a password on your wallet makes it more idiot vulnerable 410170;1386344351;mircea_popescu;nubbins` basically if i told the guy "fuck you, you uninformed, intellectually lazy piece of scum" in response to his first email 410171;1386344358;mircea_popescu;or if i told him "go to assets, figure it out" 410172;1386344363;mircea_popescu;the result is exactly the same. 410173;1386344365;nubbins`;heh 410174;1386344367;nubbins`;nod, fair enough 410175;1386344384;mircea_popescu;so basically the moral here is, you can say exactly anything you wish 410176;1386344388;mircea_popescu;even random gibberish 410177;1386344393;mircea_popescu;idiots will be idiots and that's that. 410178;1386344410;jcpham;i think an unencrypted wallet.dat on your normal windows users' computer is like hanging a neon sign in your car asking people to steal it 410179;1386344434;mircea_popescu;there still exist unencrypted wallets in the wiold ?!@ 410180;1386344449;oleganza;mircea_popescu: what's the problem here? How my mom recovers forgotten password? 410181;1386344460;mircea_popescu;oleganza idiot sends his pw and his backup to the same frined 410182;1386344466;mircea_popescu;starts forum thread about how you scammed him. 410183;1386344488;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: plaintext wallets are often used to bait honeypots. 410184;1386344503;oleganza;conjecture: people are not idiots, they simply not experts and real experts did not give them proper tools and methodology yet 410185;1386344506;asciilifeform;(for collecting '0days') 410186;1386344515;topace;bitches be bitches 410187;1386344518;topace;good motto 410188;1386344532;nubbins`;noobs be noobs 410189;1386344535;mircea_popescu;oleganza so basically you're not solving an actual problem, you're drawing. 410190;1386344542;nubbins`;mildly circular, but yes 410191;1386344544;oleganza;today investing in BTC for a non-CS guru is a major security problem 410192;1386344562;mircea_popescu;"investing" by unprofessionals is and will remain a major security risk. 410193;1386344570;mircea_popescu;this is not something that can be changed by technology. 410194;1386344578;oleganza;ok. I'll go home then 410195;1386344587;nubbins`;wait, where are you now? 410196;1386344591;mircea_popescu;lol 410197;1386344593;mircea_popescu;good one 410198;1386344612;nubbins`;oleg just stands up and walks out of the office 410199;1386344614;nubbins`;"peace" 410200;1386344620;oleganza;i know a lot of mac people who couldn't use git or any UI on top of git until I created Gitbox 410201;1386344631;mircea_popescu;but are they more secure now ? 410202;1386344641;oleganza;UI expands possibilities if done right. Otherwise it's always "git is only for experts" 410203;1386344646;mircea_popescu;cause you're mixing two unrelated topics. 410204;1386344670;oleganza;in fact, they are. Where git allows you to fuck up things, my UI prevents these issues 410205;1386344687;oleganza;so if you are not an expert, you don't need to go to ask one for help 410206;1386344702;mircea_popescu;that may be, but we were discussing idiot proofing the wallet by a share to friends scheme. 410207;1386344719;mircea_popescu;this may offer w/e ui benefits, i can't discuss that in the abstract. 410208;1386344730;mircea_popescu;from a security viewpoint, however, it does not idiot proof anything. 410209;1386344747;nubbins`;http://www.theonion.com/articles/nelson-mandela-becomes-first-politician-to-be-miss,34755/ 410210;1386344747;ozbot;Nelson Mandela Becomes First Politician To Be Missed | The Onion - America's Finest News Source 410211;1386344749;nubbins`;heh 410212;1386344771;KRS|gotyawallet;what the fuck are these people saying on #bitcoin-pricetalk "its all over" 410213;1386344776;KRS|gotyawallet;lmao wtf 410214;1386344778;nubbins`;“Today we lost not only an international hero and a symbol of the resilient human spirit, but also the very first political figure ever who people actively wish was still alive and affecting world affairs,” said political historian Wallace M. Delaney 410215;1386344790;KRS|gotyawallet;did something happen? 410216;1386344799;mircea_popescu;get out of here, people wished hitler was still alive in 1945 410217;1386344803;mircea_popescu;why all this pious fraud bs ? 410218;1386344809;nubbins`;heh 410219;1386344828;nubbins`;TBF i missed jack layton 410220;1386344830;mircea_popescu;KRS|gotyawallet yes, a new chan was created a pparently, named -pricetalk 410221;1386344843;nubbins`;maybe the only canadian politician i've ever had respect for 410222;1386344851;nubbins`;(trudeau was before my time) 410223;1386344852;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.32825 = 0.6565 BTC [-] {2} 410224;1386344876;mircea_popescu;personally, i wish caesar were still alive and affecting world affairs. 410225;1386344895;mircea_popescu;you know, the one guy who perhaps could claim the first on that score. 410226;1386344900;nubbins`;hahaha 410227;1386344907;nubbins`;WE HAVE NO KING BUT CAESAR 410228;1386344913;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 17 @ 0.31851673 = 5.4148 BTC [-] {8} 410229;1386344916;oleganza;mircea_popescu: can you elaborate what's wrong with m-of-n sharing of keys with friends? 410230;1386344929;nubbins`;honestly kinda forgot about the onion 410231;1386344930;nubbins`;http://www.theonion.com/articles/generous-military-sends-800-in-disability-to-man-w,34748/ 410232;1386344930;ozbot;Generous Military Sends $800 In Disability To Man Who Wakes Up Screaming Every Night | The Onion - A 410233;1386344932;mircea_popescu;oleganza that the idiot is going to share all the keys with the same friend. 410234;1386344950;asciilifeform;what people really miss is not the fuhrers, but the times when they were possible. you think anybody misses Brezhnev, the man? 410235;1386344959;mircea_popescu;your scheme relies on the idiot comprehending m-of-n, which is a higher bar than comprehending "this is your wallet file, keep it safe" 410236;1386345002;pankkake;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=357465.msg3851336#msg3851336 410237;1386345004;ozbot;Market Depth / Charting Sites for Assets 410238;1386345007;nubbins`;the idiot doesn't need to comprehend anything beyond "keep this safe", but if he doesn't comprehend it, it's just as likely to grow wings and fly away 410239;1386345011;KRS|gotyawallet;oh great baidu isnt accepting btc anymore 410240;1386345015;KRS|gotyawallet;markets tanking 410241;1386345016;ThickAsThieves;;;ticker 410242;1386345016;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 994.5, Best ask: 1000.0, Bid-ask spread: 5.50000, Last trade: 994.5, 24 hour volume: 22039.35832478, 24 hour low: 994.5, 24 hour high: 1155.0, 24 hour vwap: 1071.32021 410243;1386345025;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform perhaps difficult to distinguish the man (who makes his time) from the time. 410244;1386345035;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6116 @ 0.00078466 = 4.799 BTC [+] 410245;1386345055;nubbins`;asciilifeform: trudeau is as close as canada got to a fuhrer 410246;1386345075;pankkake;at least this gives bitcoin-central some volume 410247;1386345112;oleganza;mircea_popescu: the minimum assumption is that user is not idiot to share his password. Then the UI will guide hi through the process. 410248;1386345121;oleganza;*guide him 410249;1386345129;Apocalyptic;oleganza, are you talking about that bitrated site ? 410250;1386345134;oleganza;no 410251;1386345140;Apocalyptic;it's so wrong in so many ways 410252;1386345152;asciilifeform;giving lusers secret-sharing is a perfect recipe for 'damn i lost my wallet, btx sux' 410253;1386345155;asciilifeform;*c 410254;1386345159;pankkake;UIs cannot be enough, users need to understand what they are doing or they will fail as always 410255;1386345161;mircea_popescu;oleganza understand, i;m not saying this is bad. i am merely saying that "idiot proofing" is not its selling point. 410256;1386345168;oleganza;i'm talking about my idea of a wallet app that allows to keep your stash safe even if you or someone's computer is badly compromised later 410257;1386345187;mircea_popescu;yes, but you are thinking about it in a very narrow manner. 410258;1386345194;nubbins`;http://hothousecleaners.com/ 410259;1386345196;ozbot;HotHouse Cleaners - Topless cleaners, lingerie cleaners, escort directory 410260;1386345198;nubbins`;^ now accepting btc 410261;1386345203;mircea_popescu;consider the problem in its proper generality, as the byzantine problem. 410262;1386345211;oleganza;okay, i'll rephrase. It's a convenient way to strongly protect your stash even against yourself (getting a malware, forgetting password etc.) 410263;1386345212;KRS|gotyawallet;oh nice i'll drop some down on that 410264;1386345212;asciilifeform;luser gives shares to five friends, needs 3. one loses his laptop on the train, two have their disk formatted by crapware. result: no wallet. 410265;1386345212;mircea_popescu;what can you do once how many guys go rogue ? 410266;1386345218;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.3109 = 1.2436 BTC [-] 410267;1386345227;nubbins`;KRS|gotyawallet: my understanding is that you're not allowed to touch them 410268;1386345239;nubbins`;so really you're just paying a bunch of strippers to do a shitty job of cleaning your house. 410269;1386345251;Diablo-D3;so whats the point? 410270;1386345257;nubbins`;neckbeards 410271;1386345259;nubbins`;and wizards 410272;1386345264;nubbins`;is the point 410273;1386345270;mircea_popescu;nubbins` you have to understand when they say no it's maybe. 410274;1386345280;mircea_popescu;the no being there mostly for the benefit of the police. 410275;1386345289;nubbins`;and the extreme wizards 410276;1386345299;oleganza;mircea_popescu: practically speaking, if you are being nice to people, they won't have huge incentive to figure out with whom you stored the keys and how much do you have 410277;1386345307;Diablo-D3;when the fuck did wizard become an insult? 410278;1386345308;oleganza;mircea_popescu: if you made everyone hate you, it's your problem 410279;1386345311;nubbins`;i'm sure if i flexed my muscular quads at them, they'd be mopping up pussy juice out of the rug for hours 410280;1386345321;Diablo-D3;>nubbins 410281;1386345330;Diablo-D3;>not a 400 pound fatass 410282;1386345341;oleganza;after all, they themselves have some stash 410283;1386345342;nubbins`;Diablo-D3: http://mmoqq.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/king-nerd.jpg 410284;1386345349;oleganza;and want to store it shared too with you and their friends 410285;1386345352;oleganza;so it's mutual service 410286;1386345365;oleganza;and everyone wants to be nice to each other so they can redeem savings 410287;1386345374;Diablo-D3;nubbins`: okay, thats just awesome 410288;1386345375;nubbins`;Diablo-D3: i'm barely more than half that weight ;) 410289;1386345391;Diablo-D3;nubbins`: so you weigh about as much as I do then 410290;1386345427;nubbins`;yeah, more or less 410291;1386345447;nubbins`;i'm less intimidating than i was when i had a beard tho ;( 410292;1386345554;pankkake;well if I wanted to pay for someone to clean my house, I'd rather have been done by a half naked lady 410293;1386345585;nubbins`;some naked slut shows up 410294;1386345590;nubbins`;"ew lol this place is disgusting" 410295;1386345601;nubbins`;"i can't believe this" 410296;1386345604;nubbins`;"i'm cold" 410297;1386345605;nubbins`;etc 410298;1386345610;nubbins`;then your boner dies 410299;1386345624;nubbins`;and you sit in a chair, emasculated, wacthing a bunch of naked women lel at your life 410300;1386345631;nubbins`;sounds great 410301;1386345646;nubbins`;i mean, if you even start to masturbate, they'll leave 410302;1386345648;nubbins`;you know it 410303;1386345660;pankkake;speaking from experience? 410304;1386345663;nubbins`;nah 410305;1386345667;nubbins`;that's just how i imagine it'd go 410306;1386345680;pankkake;the sad truth is that I like to clean, with few exceptions 410307;1386345718;nubbins`;i should hire you for the studio 410308;1386345723;nubbins`;keeping that place clean is a full-time job 410309;1386345741;pankkake;I once proposed to do it for free for anyone having a fancy vacuum cleaner 410310;1386345749;nubbins`;haha 410311;1386345749;pankkake;(it *has* to be transparent at least) 410312;1386345753;nubbins`;dyson! 410313;1386345769;nubbins`;we barely have need for a vacuum 410314;1386345771;nubbins`;one rug 410315;1386345776;asciilifeform;transparent vacuum cleaners... when do we get the: transparent toilet? 410316;1386345779;nubbins`;all else is tile or softwood 410317;1386345814;nubbins`;if you were wondering, softwood is not appropriate for floors 410318;1386345919;pankkake;I have a floating floor that is very easy to clean, I barely use the vacuum cleaner anymore 410319;1386345972;pankkake;laminate flooring would be the correct term I think 410320;1386345998;nubbins`;ah yes 410321;1386346002;nubbins`;laminate is great 410322;1386346027;nubbins`;imagine explaining to someone 100 years ago that in the future, floors will be made of plastic with photographs of wood on top 410323;1386346100;nubbins`;the only down side is that if it gets wet, it tends to swell at the seams 410324;1386346114;pankkake;there are some ugly/ridiculous ones. mine is grey so you it's mostly a nice pattern, not faking wood 410325;1386346138;pankkake;yes; the air is quite humid here too 410326;1386346156;mircea_popescu;oleganza "if you are being nice to people" that's the silliest thing i heard all day 410327;1386346165;mircea_popescu;people's incentive to steal from you is how much you got, not how nice you are. 410328;1386346209;nubbins`;in fact, nicer people get taken advantage of more often 410329;1386346243;oleganza;if you can't rely on yourself to keep your passwords safe and computers secure, then you can only rely on other 410330;1386346244;oleganza;s 410331;1386346271;oleganza;you and me are not the same kind of people as our parents, for instance. 410332;1386346271;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform afaik teh japanese have it 410333;1386346294;nubbins`;one great thing i saw in japan was sinks in the toilets 410334;1386346303;nubbins`;so you wash your hands with the water that then fills the tank 410335;1386346322;asciilifeform;nubbins`: those are said to be standard in american prisons. 410336;1386346325;nubbins`;http://peswiki.com/images/0/07/Sinkpositive_context_350.jpg 410337;1386346328;nubbins`;great inventions 410338;1386346340;pankkake;oh, indeed 410339;1386346347;pankkake;doesn't take extra space 410340;1386346354;nubbins`;nor does it waste water 410341;1386346367;pankkake;I need that for mine, no sink in it 410342;1386346381;nubbins`;no sink in your bathroom :0 410343;1386346383;mircea_popescu;this reminds me of butters. 410344;1386346390;mircea_popescu;nubbins` he's french, he has a bidet 410345;1386346395;mircea_popescu;that should be enough for everyone. 410346;1386346397;nubbins`;heh 410347;1386346410;nubbins`;wash your hands while wiping your ass 410348;1386346415;pankkake;I wish I had a bidet! that really should be standard 410349;1386346425;nubbins`;first time i used a bidet was in a sink-toilet 410350;1386346435;nubbins`;couldn't figure out how to dry my asshole because it was all in japanese 410351;1386346444;nubbins`;ended up having to use a wad of paper :( 410352;1386346452;mircea_popescu;pankkake ha! my girls do and you don't ? 410353;1386346455;mircea_popescu;france fails 410354;1386346551;jurov`;oleganza, you can look at mycelium. it does export the wallet as PDF + password 410355;1386346557;KRS|gotyawallet;bidets are great, they are also water fountains 410356;1386346560;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1990 @ 0.00301152 = 5.9929 BTC [+] {5} 410357;1386346572;jurov`;you can give the printed PDF to everyone and parts of password to each 410358;1386346595;jurov`;however, everyone knows the public address then.. but it's a start 410359;1386346612;pankkake;mircea_popescu: bidets are more common in older houses, but not really in appartments or new contructions 410360;1386346621;mircea_popescu;i recall back in 2012 this site which gave you printed sheets m-of-n, as manty as you wanted 410361;1386346635;mircea_popescu;usually needing 3 to spend and 2 to check balance 410362;1386346647;oleganza;jurov`: i started by discussing how to do that split sharing but so that sensitive info is never in the same computer at once 410363;1386346647;mircea_popescu;pankkake that just shows how the french youth has decayed. 410364;1386346653;pankkake;yes :( 410365;1386346663;pankkake;they don't understand my love for bidets 410366;1386346667;nubbins`;krs lel 410367;1386346674;mircea_popescu;we should make a bitbet bidet. 410368;1386346681;KRS|gotyawallet;bidet faucet? 410369;1386346695;nubbins`;bitdet 410370;1386346699;pankkake;a bébête 410371;1386346702;nubbins`;0.001 btc per flush 410372;1386346710;nubbins`;er actually 410373;1386346711;nubbins`;that won't work 410374;1386346716;mircea_popescu;l;ol 410375;1386346717;nubbins`;0.001 btc to raise the lid 410376;1386346721;asciilifeform;oleganza: if you're serious about the 'never', you need different crypto right off the bat. 'millionaires protocol', etc. 410377;1386346730;pankkake;that would quickly prove the tragedy of commons 410378;1386346731;nubbins`;in korea, they have public toilets on the streets in some areas 410379;1386346733;mircea_popescu;he has a point there. 410380;1386346737;nubbins`;you pay money to keep the door closed 410381;1386346741;nubbins`;timer runs out, door swings open 410382;1386346742;nubbins`;lelelel 410383;1386346745;pankkake;genius 410384;1386346746;mircea_popescu;haha cool 410385;1386346756;mircea_popescu;showers too ? 410386;1386346769;oleganza;asciilifeform: quote? 410387;1386346771;nubbins`;nah, no sidewalk showers 410388;1386346774;oleganza;ah 410389;1386346776;oleganza;i see 410390;1386346777;nubbins`;bath houses tho 410391;1386346805;asciilifeform;oleganza: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yao's_Millionaires'_Problem 410392;1386346807;oleganza;asciilifeform: i mean, in m-of-n transaction, all private keys are on different computers 410393;1386346809;asciilifeform;and variations on the theme 410394;1386346854;mircea_popescu;as far as i understand, m-of-n creates the m and n on the same m,achine, then distributes them 410395;1386346854;nubbins`;y'know, wikipedia articles on math are generally really good 410396;1386346858;oleganza;asciilifeform: so when you redeem stuff, you ask people to sign a particular piece of data instead of revealing their private keys 410397;1386346860;asciilifeform;there is a difference between 'prococol' security and actual security. 410398;1386346865;asciilifeform;*protocol 410399;1386346903;mircea_popescu;http://bitbet.us/bet/519/btc-network-difficulty-to-top-1b-before-2014/ << soon to be top bet on bitbet 410400;1386346905;ozbot;BitBet - BTC network difficulty to top 1B before 2014 410401;1386346908;mircea_popescu;get your alms in 410402;1386346910;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: it seems like he was talking about the btc feature that sometimes goes by that name, rather than Shamir's scheme. 410403;1386346919;mircea_popescu;o o 410404;1386346940;pankkake;http://www.wici-concept.com/shop/175-thickbox_default/douchette-hygiene-wc.jpg \o/ 410405;1386346942;nubbins`;alms for the poor 410406;1386346948;ThickAsThieves;116btc on Yes 410407;1386346948;mircea_popescu;a so more like a deterministic wallet m-of-n combo 410408;1386346971;ThickAsThieves;;;nethash 410409;1386346972;gribble;6400549.04237 410410;1386346973;nubbins`;pankkake: is that a dual-flush button i see on top there?! 410411;1386346976;ThickAsThieves;;;bcstats 410412;1386346978;gribble;Current Blocks: 273424 | Current Difficulty: 7.074082830514966E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 274175 | Next Difficulty In: 751 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 21 hours, 52 minutes, and 30 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 888657408.965 | Estimated Percent Change: 25.62157 410413;1386347001;nubbins`;http://www.rensup.com/blog/assets/content/denton_dual_flush.jpg 410414;1386347041;pankkake;perhaps. I have one but I don't think it works properly 410415;1386347051;KRS|gotyawallet;That sure is a nice toilet. 410416;1386347085;nubbins`;efficient too 410417;1386347164;pankkake;"I'm a CEO, not a chip designer. That's why I took advice from a professor." 410418;1386347200;mircea_popescu;being a ceo is a thing now ? 410419;1386347212;mircea_popescu;"i'm a shopper, not a mathematician. this is why i can't use cash" 410420;1386347233;taub;btcchina api breaking down ugh 410421;1386347236;nubbins`;ah lel 410422;1386347241;KRS|gotyawallet;mircea_popescu: pic gallery is gone..no dtng? 410423;1386347243;pankkake;actually, it's why I don't use cash, too annoying to count bills and coins 410424;1386347248;nubbins`;cash is king 410425;1386347266;nubbins`;nothing worse than some asshole in front of you in line buying a cookie with debit 410426;1386347392;mircea_popescu;KRS|gotyawallet yeah i pulled the plug on that thing 410427;1386347410;mircea_popescu;pankkake why use coins ? 410428;1386347436;pankkake;how do you not use coins? 410429;1386347442;nubbins`;i rarely spend coins 410430;1386347452;nubbins`;result being that i have a half pound of change in my pocket by the end of each day 410431;1386347461;nubbins`;but then those all go into a jar 410432;1386347474;nubbins`;and before you know it, you have thousands of dollars of change 410433;1386347518;taub;crash n burn 410434;1386347571;mircea_popescu;i usually leave the metal hange behind 410435;1386347609;pankkake;we can't be all filthy rich 410436;1386347625;pankkake;though I usually discard or give away the red coins 410437;1386347644;jurov`;i'm bit nervous when i *don't* have any coins 410438;1386347644;pankkake;(<=5cents for you non eurofags) 410439;1386347652;nubbins`;heh 410440;1386347659;nubbins`;canada abandoned red coins earlier this year 410441;1386347667;jurov`;cuz usually then i need them to some vending machine 410442;1386347669;nubbins`;now you round to the 5 when paying cash 410443;1386347693;jurov`;but no use for the red ones, yeah 410444;1386347699;pankkake;that's actually smart. I've said many times I'd do it even if rounded up 410445;1386347713;nubbins`;well at this point it costs more than 1 cent to make a penny 410446;1386347713;pankkake;machines often don't want them anyway 410447;1386347714;taub;will you panic if we hit 450 today? 410448;1386347721;nubbins`;panic is for noobs 410449;1386347725;pankkake;I'll panic buy 410450;1386347729;nubbins`;yeah 410451;1386347731;nubbins`;i'd panic buy too 410452;1386347738;nubbins`;disregard previous statement 410453;1386347740;taub;that china ruling seems serious 410454;1386347748;taub;china has been the fuel of this run-up 410455;1386347758;taub;now new buyers aren't gonna come as fast 410456;1386347767;nubbins`;taub, as if 1.2 billion people could affect the price of btc ;0 410457;1386347799;taub;btcchina now probably pretty mad they didn't charge fees all this time 410458;1386347831;jurov`;i can wait. 2 days sold 0.4B for 320 euro, won't starve for some time. 410459;1386347848;mircea_popescu;pankkake but we ARE all filthy rich 410460;1386347879;mircea_popescu;taub i think you're misreading it. 410461;1386347903;nubbins`;heh 410462;1386347905;pankkake;not really 410463;1386347916;pankkake;I'm filthy alright, missing the second part yet 410464;1386347924;nubbins`;you've gotta be at least grubby rich 410465;1386347931;nubbins`;or unclean rich 410466;1386348002;bloctoc;taub Liberty Reserve shut down has been the fuel for this run up. 410467;1386348006;nubbins`;;;ticker --market all 410468;1386348007;jurov`;taaki rich 410469;1386348016;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD last: 926.0, vol: 28357.88536441 | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 872.0, vol: 28956.75818595 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 898.0, vol: 25743.23023 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 880.0, vol: 8744.8563949 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 857.77, vol: 296.84205889 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 925.572, vol: 56901.44100000 | Volume-weighted last average: 907.668942554 410470;1386348025;pankkake;:D 410471;1386348037;nubbins`;http://www.brainlesstales.com/images/misc/bitcoin-roller-coaster.gif 410472;1386348268;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.1498899 = 0.2998 BTC [+] 410473;1386348329;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 146 @ 0.00291 = 0.4249 BTC [-] 410474;1386348512;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.00289717 = 2.8972 BTC [-] {3} 410475;1386349772;Diablo-D3;heh coinbase is down 410476;1386349854;ThickAsThieves;i just had it up 410477;1386349862;ThickAsThieves;works fine for me 410478;1386349877;Diablo-D3;Coinbase is currently offline 410479;1386349877;Diablo-D3;No cached version is available. 410480;1386349902;ThickAsThieves;sux for you 410481;1386350137;TomServo;mircea_popescu: Did Garzik steal your idea? http://www.coindesk.com/core-developer-bitcoin-node-space/ 410482;1386350143;TomServo;I recall you mentioning something similiar 410483;1386350220;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3109 BTC [-] 410484;1386350221;nubbins`;fun 410485;1386350281;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1149 @ 0.00282543 = 3.2464 BTC [-] {13} 410486;1386350282;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.30700131 = 1.228 BTC [-] {3} 410487;1386350342;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 65 @ 0.00312002 = 0.2028 BTC [-] {2} 410488;1386350392;thestringpuller;;;bc,24hprc 410489;1386350393;gribble;986.33 410490;1386350733;thestringpuller;;;bids 900 410491;1386350734;gribble;There are currently 3391.5773 bitcoins demanded at or over 900.0 USD, worth 3087597.27043 USD in total. | Data vintage: 86.7293 seconds 410492;1386350746;thestringpuller;;;asks 990 410493;1386350746;gribble;There are currently 1412.6887 bitcoins offered at or under 990.0 USD, worth 1360727.09659 USD in total. | Data vintage: 99.4999 seconds 410494;1386350830;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 633 @ 0.0031008 = 1.9628 BTC [-] {11} 410495;1386350878;asciilifeform;TomServo: afaik, 'cubesats' go in low orbit and typically croak after a year or two. 410496;1386350901;asciilifeform;they're largely a gimmick ('street cred' for engineering students.) 410497;1386350905;thestringpuller;fucking reversals always miss em 410498;1386350940;thestringpuller;asciilifeform: whats a good long term satrellite solution? 410499;1386350941;asciilifeform;not much room on a breadbox for either serious antennae or photovoltaics, either. 410500;1386350968;asciilifeform;thestringpuller: 'long term', in the satellite business, traditionally means a decade or so. 410501;1386351111;asciilifeform;if you really want something to hang around forever (or until the hardware bakes) - Lagrange points. 410502;1386351124;asciilifeform;but that will cost you. 410503;1386351129;asciilifeform;might be cheaper to buy a country. 410504;1386351268;pankkake;must be why satoshi hasn't spent his coins yet, he's waiting to buy a country 410505;1386351318;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG.F2] 1 @ 0.25 BTC 410506;1386351439;thestringpuller;;;ticker 410507;1386351439;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 965.0, Best ask: 968.98999, Bid-ask spread: 3.98999, Last trade: 955.0, 24 hour volume: 33985.40703212, 24 hour low: 916.1, 24 hour high: 1155.0, 24 hour vwap: 1025.72874 410508;1386351786;kakobrekla;http://de2.eu.apcdn.com/full/111232.jpg 410509;1386353270;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 2 @ 0.055 = 0.11 BTC [+] 410510;1386353463;mircea_popescu;TomServo for the past year or so he's been running around the margins trying to somehow become cool 410511;1386353518;mircea_popescu;anyway, io can't read that javascriptfest. 410512;1386353549;pankkake;coindesk? worksforme with noscript 410513;1386353617;mircea_popescu;all io get is a blakc screen 410514;1386353937;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform depends a lot of what you put on the cube too 410515;1386353961;mircea_popescu;but yes outer space is a harsh mistress 410516;1386354081;asciilifeform;optimistic value for photovoltaic is ~100 W / m^2 410517;1386354170;asciilifeform;let's say the cube swings open, giving 40 cm.^2 facing the sun (magically rotates without fuel...) 410518;1386354214;asciilifeform;now you've got 400 mW... 410519;1386354270;mircea_popescu;what's the cube edge, 10cm ? 410520;1386354278;asciilifeform;according to the link, that. 410521;1386354288;mircea_popescu;so then 400cm 410522;1386354312;asciilifeform;damn, left out a 0 410523;1386354313;mircea_popescu;that's about where it is, entry level sattelite is about 10cmc and about 1 watt. 410524;1386354315;asciilifeform;ok 4W. 410525;1386354373;asciilifeform;at full sunlight, ideal position... 410526;1386354388;asciilifeform;might be able to get more if you charge a cap and transmit in bursts. 410527;1386354467;asciilifeform;and this assumes that you don't need any power to run the electronics on board 410528;1386354475;asciilifeform;which is 'spherical horse' territory. 410529;1386354515;mircea_popescu;some of the more interesting work in mechanical engineering is resolving the "optimal exposure" problem 410530;1386354521;asciilifeform;i'd be surprised if you can run any kind of btc node (in reasonably real time) on 4w. 410531;1386354525;mircea_popescu;i've seen a buncha stuff trying to emulate fern leaves etc 410532;1386354571;asciilifeform;consider a mirrored (on the inside) sphere with controllable slats. 410533;1386354580;mircea_popescu;that too 410534;1386354581;asciilifeform;slats open on the sunlit side 410535;1386354599;mircea_popescu;but by now you're larger than 10cm 410536;1386354606;asciilifeform;correct. 410537;1386354615;asciilifeform;would have to be inflatable (mylar) or somesuch. 410538;1386354665;mircea_popescu;inflatable is a pain 410539;1386354671;mircea_popescu;you lose gas 410540;1386354705;asciilifeform;one could probably rig something clever with nitinol wire 410541;1386354717;asciilifeform;(use the sun itself for the heat source) 410542;1386354717;mircea_popescu;bunch of actuators 410543;1386354743;mircea_popescu;it's a seriously fascinating field, this, "given a 10cm cube, construct the best photovoltaic arrangement" 410544;1386354749;asciilifeform;considerably longer life if you avoid rotating joints 410545;1386354752;asciilifeform;hence nitinol 410546;1386354762;asciilifeform;(ever think about bearings/oil in vacuum) 410547;1386354795;KRS|gotyawallet;i want to test my wallet can someone send me 1 btc and I will send it back 410548;1386354879;asciilifeform;with a strict cube, use swing panels; five facing the sun (swing open in response to voltage readings from each, with max being the center of the clover) and one arse end with no panel, for the downlink. 410549;1386354921;mircea_popescu;but if your panels are twin faced 410550;1386354934;mircea_popescu;you can significantly improve that result by tgurning them 410551;1386355006;asciilifeform;it is also worth considering why exactly one wants a btc node in orbit. 410552;1386355050;asciilifeform;in any scenario where said node is worthwhile, it becomes a central point of failure unlike any other. 410553;1386355161;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12145 @ 0.00078466 = 9.5297 BTC [+] 410554;1386355219;asciilifeform;if you just want to relay bits in one direction to some remote jungle, there are commercial sats with no authentication (!) 410555;1386355267;mircea_popescu;nobody wants a btc node in orbit, until it becomes a matter of land based isp's being assholes. 410556;1386355312;mircea_popescu;when that happens point ot point internet via wifi will be the workhorse and the mostly useless blockchain satellite will be the extended middle finger. 410557;1386355315;asciilifeform;consider the life of warez. are there bittorrent nodes in orbit? protocol obfuscation is nearly always the cheaper and more practical pill. 410558;1386355334;mircea_popescu;exactly. 410559;1386355471;pankkake;there were talk about wifi drones 410560;1386355478;pankkake;(for bittorrent) 410561;1386355496;asciilifeform;for the cost of one microsat, one could bring out a thousand balloons that bob about in the atmosphere for years. 410562;1386355499;KRS|gotyawallet;dat dump 410563;1386355523;ThickAsThieves;;;ticker 410564;1386355551;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 892.0, Best ask: 894.9, Bid-ask spread: 2.90000, Last trade: 892.0, 24 hour volume: 38738.52916725, 24 hour low: 890.0, 24 hour high: 1155.0, 24 hour vwap: 1009.31176 410565;1386355555;asciilifeform;or, for the truly exotic-minded, sonobuoys 410566;1386355555;pankkake;;;goxlag 410567;1386355556;gribble;MtGox lag is 101249.827561 seconds. During this time, light travels 202.903520783 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to heliopause (out of the solar system!) (100 AU). 410568;1386355565;KRS|gotyawallet;;;bids 888 410569;1386355566;gribble;There are currently 1000.6339 bitcoins demanded at or over 888.0 USD, worth 895306.123044 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.2233 seconds 410570;1386355570;KRS|gotyawallet;;;bids 889 410571;1386355571;gribble;There are currently 991.26164 bitcoins demanded at or over 889.0 USD, worth 886980.528795 USD in total. | Data vintage: 5.3074 seconds 410572;1386355577;KRS|gotyawallet;;;bids 889 410573;1386355577;gribble;There are currently 991.26164 bitcoins demanded at or over 889.0 USD, worth 886980.528795 USD in total. | Data vintage: 11.9352 seconds 410574;1386355584;KRS|gotyawallet;thats not right..lagged as fuck 410575;1386355590;KRS|gotyawallet;$881 410576;1386355598;pankkake;they must be hosted on a remote satellite 410577;1386355646;KRS|gotyawallet;wow how bad is it if gox is running out of buyers 410578;1386355727;ThickAsThieves;like goxers can get cash out anyway 410579;1386355864;Apocalyptic;^^ 410580;1386355893;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.14989 BTC [+] 410581;1386355924;ThickAsThieves;after this China ban i wonder if Gox will have even more trouble getting fiat to people 410582;1386355954;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 8 @ 0.04845 = 0.3876 BTC [-] {3} 410583;1386356015;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1239 @ 0.00009989 = 0.1238 BTC [+] {2} 410584;1386356076;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.09155011 = 0.1831 BTC [-] {2} 410585;1386356114;ThickAsThieves;;;goxlag 410586;1386356118;gribble;MtGox lag is 532.686634 seconds. During this time, light travels 1.06749805028 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Earth (1 AU). 410587;1386356259;Bugpowder;I don't know if you guys have noticed, but the reddit sentiment index is trending down 410588;1386356267;KRS|gotyawallet;;;bids 828 410589;1386356273;gribble;There are currently 3268.1678 bitcoins demanded at or over 828.0 USD, worth 2809609.80831 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.1444 seconds 410590;1386356288;Bugpowder;;;bids 500 410591;1386356289;gribble;There are currently 18180.459 bitcoins demanded at or over 500.0 USD, worth 12742561.8573 USD in total. | Data vintage: 16.5359 seconds 410592;1386356297;KRS|gotyawallet;thats aint right 410593;1386356313;pankkake;;;market sell 500 410594;1386356314;gribble;A market order to sell 500 bitcoins right now would net 436894.5383 USD and would take the last price down to 872.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 873.7891 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 41.6458 seconds 410595;1386356377;Bugpowder;there is a 4k+ sell order going off right now on trading.i286 410596;1386356413;Bugpowder;will the gox circuitbreakers trip again? 410597;1386356447;Bugpowder;;;goxlag 410598;1386356448;gribble;MtGox lag is 860.583437 seconds. During this time, light travels 1.72459957218 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mars (1.52 AU). 410599;1386356461;Bugpowder;>5k 410600;1386356622;Bugpowder;yeah looks like the circuit breaker tripped and its just cycling the same sell order over again and again. 410601;1386356633;ThickAsThieves;lol 410602;1386356645;ThickAsThieves;gox gets sued to oblivion 410603;1386356649;mircea_popescu;kik 410604;1386356671;mircea_popescu;"gox is trading on fake btc. gox proves this every year." 410605;1386356681;Bugpowder;why not fix the problem after it happend last week? 410606;1386356726;ThickAsThieves;hilarious 410607;1386356728;KRS|gotyawallet;to be fair didnt they receive significant attacks at those times 410608;1386356782;mod6;thestringpuller: this fuck is so uninformed << wasn't it the stephengandel guy who stopped in here a few days ago who wrote that article? 410609;1386356785;ThickAsThieves;to be fair, it is sleepy time in China 410610;1386356790;ThickAsThieves;they need their rest 410611;1386356870;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.11279999 BTC [+] 410612;1386356974;KRS|gotyawallet;Its rice until 03Q14 for them..no BEEF. NO POHK. NO SHREEMP! 410613;1386357097;TomServo;mod6: I believe so. 410614;1386357115;mircea_popescu;mod6 prolly ya 410615;1386357472;ThickAsThieves;it's still looping 410616;1386357488;KRS|gotyawallet;f'n wow 410617;1386357512;KRS|gotyawallet;i'd like to get my account in there somehow [balance] = [balance]++ 410618;1386357541;ThickAsThieves;*mp begins his next blog post* 410619;1386357559;ThickAsThieves;This is why we can't have nice things 410620;1386357822;ThickAsThieves;http://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/mtgox/btcusd Gox Art 410621;1386357822;ozbot;Mt.Gox BTC/USD Charts - BitcoinWisdom 410622;1386357849;KRS|gotyawallet;this is lel 410623;1386357851;ThickAsThieves;aww on reload the pattern goes away 410624;1386357941;dub;idk why its such a surprise every time gox does this 410625;1386357988;ThickAsThieves;here's the art: http://i.imgur.com/eKGXUpv.jpg 410626;1386358058;pankkake;looks like music 410627;1386358188;smidge;volume exceeds april crash by far 410628;1386358240;thestringpuller;;;bc,24hprc 410629;1386358252;gribble;952.70 410630;1386358264;thestringpuller;my puts are almost itm 410631;1386358367;thestringpuller;;;goxlag 410632;1386358376;gribble;MtGox lag is 2791.205394 seconds. During this time, light travels 5.59354435768 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Jupiter (5.2 AU). 410633;1386358411;KRS|gotyawallet;Gox should just submit a trouble ticket to their support department..duh. 410634;1386358436;ThickAsThieves;Hello this is GoDaddy, how can we help you today? 410635;1386358468;KRS|gotyawallet;Send over that racing bitch..She's hawt. 410636;1386358472;thestringpuller;bitstmp hasn't tripped yet though 410637;1386358480;thestringpuller;trades are still going hard 410638;1386358492;pankkake;I'm not sure what can I do with this… http://i.imgur.com/Li7nNHC.png (bitcoin-central) 410639;1386358602;jurov`;i'm still unverified at b-c 410640;1386358609;pankkake;at least there is no risk of lag 410641;1386358613;thestringpuller;jurov`: I'm sending another deposit 410642;1386358620;Apocalyptic;pankkake, that orderbook density 410643;1386358637;thestringpuller;;;goxlag 410644;1386358642;gribble;MtGox lag is 3056.857142 seconds. During this time, light travels 6.12590748629 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Jupiter (5.2 AU). 410645;1386358712;Bugpowder;@zerohedge 4m NYSE declares self help against Mt. Gox 410646;1386358784;thestringpuller;is that from twitter? 410647;1386358812;Bugpowder;yeah 410648;1386358813;Bugpowder;http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2013/12/20131206_BTC2.jpg 410649;1386358838;Bugpowder;zh is getting wet 410650;1386358848;Bugpowder;over BIDU 410651;1386358858;Bugpowder;I guess he missed the announcement yesterday? 410652;1386358872;jurov`;lol mtgoxlive literally out of the window 410653;1386358882;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.30800266 = 0.924 BTC [+] {2} 410654;1386358899;thestringpuller;;;bc,24hprc 410655;1386358902;gribble;951.33 410656;1386358943;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 300 @ 0.0028997 = 0.8699 BTC [+] {2} 410657;1386359032;ThickAsThieves;i went for NSPNY at $61 instead 410658;1386359248;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 3851 @ 0.00273821 = 10.5448 BTC [-] {18} 410659;1386359717;pankkake;well I fail at exploiting b-c. too bad, those trades jumping 40-60€ are juicy 410660;1386359781;twizt;crazy volume going thru 410661;1386359809;ThickAsThieves;Bitcoin Breaks Another Record 410662;1386359815;ThickAsThieves;get it? get it? 410663;1386359829;pankkake;Bitcoin Breaks? 410664;1386359835;ThickAsThieves;broken record 410665;1386359839;pankkake;oh 410666;1386359844;ThickAsThieves;playing over and over 410667;1386359852;ThickAsThieves;it's funnier when you explain it 410668;1386359853;thestringpuller;this is a good retreat though 410669;1386359857;ThickAsThieves;hehe 410670;1386359859;thestringpuller;octoboer was hovering around 200 410671;1386359884;thestringpuller;someone must be exiting their position 410672;1386359906;ThickAsThieves;from an escher painting 410673;1386359980;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16182 @ 0.00078592 = 12.7178 BTC [+] 410674;1386359994;mircea_popescu;hahaha 410675;1386360049;twizt;so where is this gonna end lol 410676;1386360054;twizt;with an hour delay 410677;1386360067;mircea_popescu;;;tslb 410678;1386360071;gribble;Time since last block: 14 minutes and 39 seconds 410679;1386360131;pankkake;is there a gox lag chart? 410680;1386360143;Apocalyptic;currently it's a gox loop chart 410681;1386360199;nubbins`;;;ticker --last 410682;1386360200;gribble;877.46198 410683;1386360202;nubbins`;heh 410684;1386360220;mircea_popescu;;;ticker --loop 410685;1386360221;gribble;(ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market |all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Mtgox. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure (1 more message) 410686;1386360221;nubbins`;okay, so i just bought a sufjan stevens record 410687;1386360231;ThickAsThieves;here's Mark right now: http://i.imgur.com/rLhaCT6.jpg 410688;1386360241;nubbins`;my favourite album so far -- seven swans -- and i didn't even know it was available on vinyl 410689;1386360247;nubbins`;stumbled upon a reissue today! 410690;1386360248;ThickAsThieves;nice 410691;1386360271;nubbins`;yeah, wanna listen to it badly 410692;1386360280;nubbins`;but i'm gonna hold off and give it to my wife for xmas 410693;1386360304;ThickAsThieves;it's a great album 410694;1386360315;ThickAsThieves;but i still prefer Age of Adz these days 410695;1386360324;ThickAsThieves;not really the same styke thi 410696;1386360328;ThickAsThieves;style tho* 410697;1386360339;nubbins`;yeah, i still haven't heard age of adz 410698;1386360348;mircea_popescu;this just in : mtgox server upgraded with wafflemaker! 410699;1386360348;nubbins`;queuing it up right now on youchube 410700;1386360358;thestringpuller;;;goxlag 410701;1386360359;gribble;MtGox lag is 4772.813016 seconds. During this time, light travels 9.56466384499 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Saturn (9.54 AU). 410702;1386360362;thestringpuller;dude seriously? 410703;1386360374;thestringpuller;that's like 3 episodes of seinfeld 410704;1386360378;nubbins`;it's just saturn, no sweat 410705;1386360379;mircea_popescu;nothing like last year's half day record 410706;1386360403;nubbins`;lel cavirtex @ $810 410707;1386360464;mircea_popescu;you mean i'm not a billionaire again !? 410708;1386360471;thestringpuller;LOL 410709;1386360481;thestringpuller;you'll be a billionaire again by christmas 410710;1386360485;thestringpuller;that should be a good bitbet 410711;1386360486;mircea_popescu;aok 410712;1386360489;nubbins`;haha 410713;1386360497;nubbins`;good xmas gift too 410714;1386360499;KRS|gotyawallet;haha 410715;1386360499;thestringpuller;"mircea_popescu to be billionaire again by Christmas 2013" 410716;1386360504;KRS|gotyawallet;bit bet! 410717;1386360508;pankkake;bad bet 410718;1386360511;ThickAsThieves;Mark is gonna be so rich with all this volume! 410719;1386360517;nubbins`;pankkake: +1 410720;1386360522;nubbins`;he could divest himself on xmas eve 410721;1386360526;mircea_popescu;everyone is a billionaire eventually, but bitcoin people get tyo do it many times a week] 410722;1386360541;KRS|gotyawallet;there is that much faith in this? 410723;1386360542;thestringpuller;i'm a billionaire with zimbabwe dollars 410724;1386360556;pankkake;can you be less than a trillionnaire ? 410725;1386360557;thestringpuller;well trillionaire actually 410726;1386360565;nubbins`;ThickAsThieves: hints of Enjoy Your Rabbit in here 410727;1386360568;mircea_popescu;pankkake only if you're somaly 410728;1386360574;KRS|gotyawallet;I didnt know you all were so serious about bitcoin. I always figure it will meh. 410729;1386360585;nubbins`;krs, not so serious 410730;1386360599;mircea_popescu;i am very srs. 410731;1386360601;KRS|gotyawallet;i mean this is really going to climb? 410732;1386360613;ThickAsThieves;i havent heard Enjoy i dont think 410733;1386360619;nubbins`;very electronic 410734;1386360627;ThickAsThieves;ah 410735;1386360627;pankkake;eventually 410736;1386360628;nubbins`;not a fan, altho i've only given it a listen or two 410737;1386360636;nubbins`;should revisit some day 410738;1386360652;ThickAsThieves;early electronic, sounds risky indeed 410739;1386360655;KRS|gotyawallet;i was ecstatic when i realized i didnt have to work anymore 410740;1386360657;nubbins`;nod 410741;1386360657;thestringpuller;there should be a bitbet against code changes 410742;1386360662;nubbins`;lots of squelchy bloops 410743;1386360672;thestringpuller;"All magic numbers in bitcoin to disappear by 2014" 410744;1386360708;KRS|gotyawallet;i want to devote myself to an open source project but not sure what i want to put my weight behind 410745;1386360717;thestringpuller;not bitcoin? 410746;1386360719;ThickAsThieves;<@SarahCoinBit> stolenNick: I'm pretty sure it's ddos. Our tech team have been woken up and are looking into it 410747;1386360722;KRS|gotyawallet;something bitcoin 410748;1386360736;thestringpuller;something something darkside something something complete? 410749;1386360745;nubbins`;well, y'know 410750;1386360746;KRS|gotyawallet;i just keep thinking something will happen and i will have to exit 410751;1386360757;nubbins`;if you're not sure what to do with your money, you can just become a patron of the arts 410752;1386360758;thestringpuller;i bought in at 12 USD 410753;1386360763;nubbins`;this is what rich people used to do 410754;1386360768;nubbins`;commission portraits and shit 410755;1386360771;thestringpuller;so being bullish long term seems to be the way to go 410756;1386360773;KRS|gotyawallet;then i hear how india ist getting on board, how countries in africa need this like oxygen 410757;1386360794;thestringpuller;nubbins` i want to commission a painting of my puppy 410758;1386360800;thestringpuller;can you make that ahppen? 410759;1386360803;nubbins`;yeah 410760;1386360814;thestringpuller;can you put him in a suit? 410761;1386360821;nubbins`;space or three-piece? 410762;1386360833;nubbins`;(yes to both) 410763;1386360838;thestringpuller;lol 410764;1386360844;nubbins`;<-- dead serious 410765;1386360845;thestringpuller;that's gangsta I was just wondering if it was an option! 410766;1386360849;thestringpuller;oh man 410767;1386360853;twizt;newb question alert, how come the time and sales dont match up to the bid/ask on clarkmoody? 410768;1386360856;thestringpuller;i was just kiddin' but that's awesome that it's an awesome 410769;1386360862;thestringpuller;twizt: 410770;1386360865;thestringpuller;goxlag 410771;1386360868;KRS|gotyawallet;maybe ill just be greedy and write myself a kickass bot 410772;1386360869;thestringpuller;;;goxlag 410773;1386360870;gribble;MtGox lag is 128509.613133 seconds. During this time, light travels 257.531825853 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to heliopause (out of the solar system!) (100 AU). 410774;1386360876;thestringpuller;HOLY SHIT 410775;1386360877;KRS|gotyawallet;and chill 410776;1386360888;twizt;thestringpuller: ? 410777;1386360893;thestringpuller;look at the goxlag 410778;1386360907;nubbins`;mircea_popescu: just imagine, you could give a free t-shirt with your face on it to each new mpex membership 410779;1386360909;lnostdal;;;goxlag 410780;1386360910;nubbins`;lel 410781;1386360911;gribble;MtGox lag is 1159908.20615 seconds. During this time, light travels 2324.44305814 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to heliopause (out of the solar system!) (100 AU). 410782;1386360912;twizt;so what should i trust lol 410783;1386360922;thestringpuller;nothing atm 410784;1386360924;twizt;in terms of where the market is 410785;1386360937;thestringpuller;just wait it out until this storm passes 410786;1386360946;pankkake;so how high is this goxlag going to be? 410787;1386360947;thestringpuller;unless you wanna send in market orders and have faith in the bitcoin gods 410788;1386360948;twizt;so wheres the market lol 410789;1386360964;twizt;how can there be trans below the limits 410790;1386361052;KRS|gotyawallet;oh my god this is going to get so bad 410791;1386361077;KRS|gotyawallet;maybe not theres a lot of greedy fucks buying 410792;1386361089;twizt;looks like it... 410793;1386361092;KRS|gotyawallet;on one hand i'm almost thinking double-digits but then bam 410794;1386361226;twizt;most likelyt going back to $1k tho 410795;1386361226;thestringpuller;twizt: during the april crash there was such bad lag, that you could literally send in limit orders at any price between the spread and cross your figners it found a match and executed 410796;1386361240;twizt;on both sides right 410797;1386361242;thestringpuller;twizt: Bugpowder made a shit ton of money 410798;1386361248;thestringpuller;during that time 410799;1386361257;twizt;yea ive done that in futures markets too 410800;1386361257;thestringpuller;so I would just wait it out unless you wanna try your luck against the lag 410801;1386361261;thestringpuller;;;goxlag 410802;1386361263;twizt;during news and all the algos back off 410803;1386361277;gribble;MtGox lag is 8648.059356 seconds. During this time, light travels 17.3306141209 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Uranus (19.18 AU). 410804;1386361287;thestringpuller;;;calc 115000/(60*60) 410805;1386361287;gribble;31.9444444444 410806;1386361303;thestringpuller;well we surpassed 1 day lag this time at some point 410807;1386361315;Namworld;;; goxlag 410808;1386361316;gribble;MtGox lag is 3926249.2314 seconds. During this time, light travels 7868.15949925 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to heliopause (out of the solar system!) (100 AU). 410809;1386361327;Namworld;;;goxlag 410810;1386361329;gribble;MtGox lag is 914965.581336 seconds. During this time, light travels 1833.58078053 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to heliopause (out of the solar system!) (100 AU). 410811;1386361347;Namworld;I heard goxlag is broken 410812;1386361380;Namworld;What's the news? 410813;1386361389;thestringpuller;someone said DDOS 410814;1386361395;thestringpuller;or at least that's what ThickAsThieves brought us 410815;1386361400;kakobrekla;something _is_ happening apparently http://jezus.si/graf/dashboards/bitcoin/details/lag/ 410816;1386361407;Namworld;and the mass went histeric? 410817;1386361413;thestringpuller;yea 410818;1386361423;pankkake;oooh that's the charts I was looking for 410819;1386361470;benkay;;;ticker 410820;1386361470;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 866.86862, Best ask: 875.0, Bid-ask spread: 8.13138, Last trade: 875.0, 24 hour volume: 42639.43396242, 24 hour low: 800.0, 24 hour high: 1155.0, 24 hour vwap: 979.46603 410821;1386361494;pankkake;;;goxlag 410822;1386361495;gribble;MtGox lag is 4959.229808 seconds. During this time, light travels 9.93824100893 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Saturn (9.54 AU). 410823;1386361499;pankkake;going down! 410824;1386361516;pankkake;or not 410825;1386361518;mircea_popescu;less lag! 410826;1386361524;pankkake;;;goxlag 410827;1386361525;gribble;MtGox lag is 9959748.13382 seconds. During this time, light travels 19959.2237453 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to heliopause (out of the solar system!) (100 AU). 410828;1386361571;thestringpuller;20 dollar spread 410829;1386361575;thestringpuller;playthe spread gogogogogogo 410830;1386361591;taub;oh, haha 410831;1386361596;taub;gox in circuit breaker mode 410832;1386361600;taub;5min lag 410833;1386361601;thestringpuller;gox lag looks like it is broken 410834;1386361607;thestringpuller;i'm getting 12 minute 410835;1386361610;thestringpuller;wait it's going down 410836;1386361630;taub;historic, order book ratio below price 410837;1386361630;thestringpuller;the orders are starting to go through (checking via API) 410838;1386361635;ThickAsThieves;;;ticker 410839;1386361636;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 850.92528, Best ask: 897.0, Bid-ask spread: 46.07472, Last trade: 840.0, 24 hour volume: 42895.66604874, 24 hour low: 800.0, 24 hour high: 1155.0, 24 hour vwap: 978.47868 410840;1386361663;thestringpuller;Bugpowder we neeeeeeed you 410841;1386361825;thestringpuller;;;bc,24hprc 410842;1386361835;gribble;933.62 410843;1386361840;thestringpuller;wow 410844;1386361870;taub;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=360170.0 .. 410845;1386361872;ozbot;Gox false signal, loop, aka westexaco: Gox runs its servers from a potato 410846;1386361908;kakobrekla;its not the hw its the sw 410847;1386361930;thestringpuller;it's not the software it's the people 410848;1386361936;thestringpuller;gox's people are all n00bs 410849;1386361941;thestringpuller;i could run a better exchange 410850;1386361950;pankkake;do it 410851;1386361970;ThickAsThieves;here comes the bounce 410852;1386361977;taub;well, seeing as how pretty much all exchanges break down under load... 410853;1386361979;thestringpuller;no no no 410854;1386361981;thestringpuller;no bounch yet 410855;1386361985;ThickAsThieves;sorry man 410856;1386361988;thestringpuller;my puts are finally itm 410857;1386361989;ThickAsThieves;she's ready 410858;1386361992;thestringpuller;NOOOOOOOOO 410859;1386361997;thestringpuller;i'm not hard yet 410860;1386362000;thestringpuller;twss 410861;1386362033;mircea_popescu;lmao 410862;1386362084;nubbins`;huh 410863;1386362089;nubbins`;my bank now sells precious metals 410864;1386362116;ThickAsThieves;my bank has US Patriot Act placards on every desk 410865;1386362175;ThickAsThieves;;;ticker 410866;1386362176;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 925.0, Best ask: 940.0, Bid-ask spread: 15.00000, Last trade: 940.0, 24 hour volume: 44383.89502737, 24 hour low: 800.0, 24 hour high: 1155.0, 24 hour vwap: 974.67855 410867;1386362209;nubbins`;https://www.preciousmetals.cibc.com/ 410868;1386362210;ozbot;Home - CIBC Precious Metals 410869;1386362222;benkay;dat 24 hour low 410870;1386362233;nubbins`;interesting, but not really competitively priced 410871;1386362237;ThickAsThieves;;;bcstats 410872;1386362238;nubbins`;convenient tho 410873;1386362239;thestringpuller;geeze 410874;1386362240;gribble;Current Blocks: 273454 | Current Difficulty: 7.074082830514966E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 274175 | Next Difficulty In: 721 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 13 hours, 39 minutes, and 48 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 888475078.261 | Estimated Percent Change: 25.5958 410875;1386362241;thestringpuller;fuck 410876;1386362246;ThickAsThieves;toldya 410877;1386362247;thestringpuller;;;bc,24hprc 410878;1386362254;thestringpuller;lesigh 410879;1386362256;thestringpuller;oh well 410880;1386362256;gribble;932.93 410881;1386362266;pankkake;;;goxlag 410882;1386362267;gribble;MtGox lag is 5788.684666 seconds. During this time, light travels 11.6004592573 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Saturn (9.54 AU). 410883;1386362269;thestringpuller;it was worth shot 410884;1386362279;KRS|gotyawallet;thickasthieves: when you were buying at $12 I was selling at $14 to make roi on my mining operations..i did not have faith =/ 410885;1386362295;KRS|gotyawallet;i've actually gone balls deep into mining again 410886;1386362301;ThickAsThieves;:/ 410887;1386362311;nubbins`;:( 410888;1386362315;thestringpuller;is your hardware paid off? 410889;1386362321;ThickAsThieves;bitcoin can accommodate your balls just fine 410890;1386362393;thestringpuller;;;ticker 410891;1386362401;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 935.0, Best ask: 939.0, Bid-ask spread: 4.00000, Last trade: 935.0, 24 hour volume: 44846.72187139, 24 hour low: 800.0, 24 hour high: 1155.0, 24 hour vwap: 972.41213 410892;1386362440;thestringpuller;;;bc,24hprc 410893;1386362446;gribble;931.90 410894;1386362592;KRS|gotyawallet;haha yeah i did well i should have just held off from selling. 410895;1386362631;ThickAsThieves;pong 410896;1386362814;thestringpuller;goxlag to normal 410897;1386362819;thestringpuller;;;goxlag 410898;1386362821;gribble;MtGox lag is 0.247187 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.000495359980356 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin to the other side of the Earth, along the surface (0.0001339 AU). 410899;1386362828;thestringpuller;dope 410900;1386362832;KRS|gotyawallet;around 20 hours ago or so maybe, fontas mentioned large amounts of btc were headed to the exchanges but then he said he was joking..wonder if this was that 410901;1386362855;KRS|gotyawallet;then it makes me wonder wtf do these sellers know thats making them sell 410902;1386362866;thestringpuller;AND NOW BITCOIN CHARTS IS DOWN 410903;1386362869;thestringpuller;i see how it is 410904;1386362877;thestringpuller;they ddos btc charts so that we can't exercise our options 410905;1386362886;pankkake;https://bunny1980.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/buy-buy-sell-sell.jpg 410906;1386362890;KRS|gotyawallet;those bastages 410907;1386363011;benkay;;;ticker 410908;1386363012;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 889.90966, Best ask: 899.99, Bid-ask spread: 10.08034, Last trade: 890.0, 24 hour volume: 45457.90578599, 24 hour low: 800.0, 24 hour high: 1140.0, 24 hour vwap: 969.05248 410909;1386363030;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5441 @ 0.00078466 = 4.2693 BTC [-] 410910;1386363043;thestringpuller;Bwahahaha 410911;1386363069;thestringpuller;;;bc,24hprc 410912;1386363070;gribble;931.18 410913;1386363111;ThickAsThieves;;;tslb 410914;1386363118;gribble;Time since last block: 30 minutes and 15 seconds 410915;1386363125;ThickAsThieves;taker your time nethash 410916;1386363299;pankkake;3 blocks in a minute 410917;1386363317;pankkake;4! 410918;1386363332;pankkake;no, blockchain.info broken 410919;1386363336;ThickAsThieves;;;tslb 410920;1386363341;gribble;Time since last block: 1 minute and 36 seconds 410921;1386363351;ThickAsThieves;;;bcstats 410922;1386363353;gribble;Current Blocks: 273457 | Current Difficulty: 7.074082830514966E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 274175 | Next Difficulty In: 718 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 13 hours, 43 minutes, and 52 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 887746503.029 | Estimated Percent Change: 25.49281 410923;1386363558;Bugpowder;thestringpuller: never buy puts 410924;1386363572;Bugpowder;its just setting your bitcoins on fire 410925;1386363597;pankkake;and they become BBQCoins? 410926;1386363735;taub;yum 410927;1386363771;thestringpuller;Bugpowder: teaaaaach e 410928;1386363772;thestringpuller;me 410929;1386363775;thestringpuller;what do you do? 410930;1386363777;thestringpuller;buy calls okay that works 410931;1386363783;thestringpuller;but then what do you do to go bearish?!?!? 410932;1386363793;thestringpuller;do you just sell and point bearish and wait to rebuy? 410933;1386364314;deadweasel;;;ticker 410934;1386364314;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 898.00501, Best ask: 904.69, Bid-ask spread: 6.68499, Last trade: 904.97499, 24 hour volume: 45888.03323050, 24 hour low: 800.0, 24 hour high: 1138.5, 24 hour vwap: 964.48303 410935;1386364317;thestringpuller;sir we need more volume! 410936;1386364330;thestringpuller;;;next 410937;1386364330;gribble;See latest update from Onefixt here: https://twitter.com/BitcoinOracle/ 410938;1386364425;pankkake;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGPhUr-T6UM 410939;1386364461;assbot; brb 410940;1386364462;pankkake;vid is relevant too! 410941;1386364910;pankkake;what's up, assbot? 410942;1386364937;assbot; nuttin just got greased 410943;1386364948;pankkake;shiny 410944;1386364980;nubbins`;ThickAsThieves: chile 410945;1386365130;thestringpuller;nubbins`: so what is the pricing for oil painting commissions 410946;1386365202;ThickAsThieves;someone else recently said chile was nice 410947;1386365217;nubbins`;ah, i'd have to get back to you on that. ink or watercolor, maybe $2-300. oil, realistically a couple grand 410948;1386365237;nubbins`;depends on size 410949;1386365577;nubbins`;something smaller, maybe a couple hundred for oil 410950;1386365623;nubbins`;if you're srs and want a more accurate quote, just let me know what size and what you had in mind 410951;1386365939;thestringpuller;maybe i want a napoleon-esque style portrait of mircea_popescu commissioned 410952;1386365943;thestringpuller;to put in my living room 410953;1386365961;thestringpuller;with a giant bitcoin watermark in the background 410954;1386365969;thestringpuller;the title: "The Bitcoin Chairman" 410955;1386366041;benkay;not king? 410956;1386366084;jurov`;just use the horse photo 410957;1386366093;jurov`;The Bitcoin Pharaoh 410958;1386366103;thestringpuller;^-there we go 410959;1386366118;thestringpuller;nubbins` make a btc address and lets start donating 410960;1386366123;thestringpuller;I'll put down .05 btc rightnow 410961;1386366127;nubbins`;sec 410962;1386366167;nubbins`;1CXK1j9sk3xz48svhtWzcTkLzjvk7NwPFs 410963;1386366194;benkay;high rolla 410964;1386366220;thestringpuller;lets do it 410965;1386366296;nubbins`;maybe a gold btc logo for the sun 410966;1386366301;nubbins`;shining into his eyes? 410967;1386366319;thestringpuller;we'll present it to him at the btc conference in romania 410968;1386366328;thestringpuller;alright 0.05 sent 410969;1386366332;thestringpuller;how much more do we need? 410970;1386366332;nubbins`;got it 410971;1386366394;deadweasel;bitcoin contact lenses, sell those. probably resell form these guys: http://www.customcontacts.com/special-effects-lenses/gallery 410972;1386366397;deadweasel;from* 410973;1386366402;nubbins`;well, suppose we do a pay-as-you-go. you've already got yourself a few concept sketches paid for. 410974;1386366460;thestringpuller;see if you can get the sketches into a trilema article ;) 410975;1386366467;thestringpuller;then we may be able to get more people to donate 410976;1386366467;Bugpowder;thestringpuller: I lose money everytime I go bearish. So I don't go bearish anymore. 410977;1386366473;nubbins`;haha 410978;1386366473;nubbins`;deal 410979;1386366491;nubbins`;should be able to get started this weekend 410980;1386366500;thestringpuller;The Great Bitcoin Pharoah! 410981;1386366527;thestringpuller;i should commission a rapper to make an MPEx hip hop track 410982;1386366539;thestringpuller;hit all facets of the arts 410983;1386366556;nubbins`;heh 410984;1386366568;nubbins`;uh, i could probably get that pulled together for you too 410985;1386366601;nubbins`;one thing at a time tho, hey 410986;1386366624;ThickAsThieves;;;ticker 410987;1386366624;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 921.5, Best ask: 934.99998, Bid-ask spread: 13.49998, Last trade: 921.04, 24 hour volume: 47411.98164781, 24 hour low: 800.0, 24 hour high: 1135.715, 24 hour vwap: 962.06274 410988;1386366633;nubbins`;is there a full version of that horse pic somewhere? 410989;1386366653;nubbins`;ugh. my roommate has no sense of smell, and he just dropped a rotten fart. 410990;1386366654;nubbins`;the bastard 410991;1386366677;kakobrekla;get a chick for a mate 410992;1386366682;kakobrekla;their farts smell like roses 410993;1386366689;nubbins`;i have one, and no they don't 410994;1386366696;kakobrekla;dunno what u feed them 410995;1386366701;kakobrekla;stop with the veggies 410996;1386366701;nubbins`;not rose petals 410997;1386366709;nubbins`;what, meat is gonna make em smell better?! 410998;1386366727;ThickAsThieves;using the wrong pellets 410999;1386366730;kakobrekla;well have you ever been in a company of veggi only eaters for extended periods of time? 411000;1386366736;nubbins`;kako, no 411001;1386366741;kakobrekla;well there you go. 411002;1386366744;nubbins`;HEH 411003;1386366747;nubbins`;kale farts 411004;1386366773;kakobrekla;its terrible i tell you 411005;1386366794;nubbins`;huh, kale is a brassica. who knew. 411006;1386367118;thestringpuller;bitstamp just bounced 411007;1386367134;thestringpuller;so i guess ThickAsThieves has inside information 411008;1386367140;thestringpuller;IT WAS HIM who caused this 411009;1386375618;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20872 @ 0.00078466 = 16.3774 BTC [-] 411010;1386375740;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.317 BTC [+] 411011;1386375801;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.319 BTC [+] 411012;1386379690;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 292 @ 0.00299985 = 0.876 BTC [+] {5} 411013;1386379692;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 27 @ 0.14986666 = 4.0464 BTC [-] {4} 411014;1386379694;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 38618 @ 0.00010594 = 4.0912 BTC [+] {34} 411015;1386379696;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00078739 = 3.7795 BTC [+] 411016;1386379994;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 69 @ 0.00300064 = 0.207 BTC [+] {2} 411017;1386380116;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 900 @ 0.00301703 = 2.7153 BTC [+] {7} 411018;1386380249;pankkake;;;ticker 411019;1386380250;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 771.0, Best ask: 780.0, Bid-ask spread: 9.00000, Last trade: 777.0, 24 hour volume: 55736.62160805, 24 hour low: 771.0, 24 hour high: 1118.989, 24 hour vwap: 932.15549 411020;1386380314;mike_c;sheesh, the whole world is falling apart. bitbet down? 411021;1386380372;mircea_popescu;mike_c seems so. 411022;1386380372;pankkake;it's working again for me actually, while I was unable to access it yesterday 411023;1386380372;pankkake;something's funny is going on in the routers 411024;1386380377;Apocalyptic;it's the cats in the intertubes 411025;1386380407;benkay;bitbet down? 411026;1386380423;pankkake;cool I am the only one able to access it 411027;1386380427;pankkake;time to bet! 411028;1386380441;benkay;kakobrekla: bitbet down? 411029;1386380444;mike_c;i just got back in. seems intermittent. 411030;1386380477;kakobrekla;yes but dont bet on it staying up just yet (see what i did there) 411031;1386380487;benkay;watch out below 411032;1386380499;mike_c;http://bitbet.us/bet/277/bitbet-haxxed-in-2013/ < you about to lose this one? :) 411033;1386380501;ozbot;BitBet - BitBet haxxed in 2013 411034;1386380507;kakobrekla;naw 411035;1386380554;pankkake;wtf 411036;1386380554;benkay;;;goxlag 411037;1386380555;gribble;MtGox lag is 73.293499 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.146879351361 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Jupiter and Callisto (0.12567 AU). 411038;1386380621;benkay;dat bgp hijack 411039;1386380733;diametric;wonder how low its going to go today 411040;1386381108;benkay;.d 411041;1386381108;ozbot;707408283.05150 | Next Diff in 674 blocks | Estimated Change: 26.0790% in 3d 10h 46m 12s 411042;1386381153;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.311003 = 0.933 BTC [-] {2} 411043;1386383297;kakobreklaa;bitbet up for good now. 411044;1386383305;kakobreklaa;btc rally can resume 411045;1386383382;thestringpuller;.d 411046;1386383397;thestringpuller;;;diff 411047;1386383397;gribble;7.074082830514966E8 411048;1386383412;thestringpuller;;;bc, stats 411049;1386383412;gribble;Error: "bc," is not a valid command. 411050;1386383414;thestringpuller;;;bc,stats 411051;1386383416;gribble;Current Blocks: 273502 | Current Difficulty: 7.074082830514966E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 274175 | Next Difficulty In: 673 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 2 hours, 25 minutes, and 59 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 891850463.219 | Estimated Percent Change: 26.07295 411052;1386383426;KRS|gotyawallet;hah i feel better now =D 411053;1386383509;pankkake;;;ticker 411054;1386383509;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 825.0, Best ask: 840.0, Bid-ask spread: 15.00000, Last trade: 825.0, 24 hour volume: 67593.48396766, 24 hour low: 650.0, 24 hour high: 1118.989, 24 hour vwap: 885.613 411055;1386383526;pankkake;what it's not crashing?! 411056;1386383542;the20year1;Quick! Buy more rentalstarter stock and lock in your BTC value relative to USD for future gains! 411057;1386383551;pankkake;hehehe 411058;1386383672;pankkake;lol at the shit altcoin bet propositions 411059;1386383694;the20year1;bitbet? 411060;1386383737;pankkake;yeah http://bitbet.us/propositions/ 411061;1386383754;benkay;1k was a good thing? 411062;1386383864;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 216 @ 0.00272541 = 0.5887 BTC [-] {4} 411063;1386384021;benkay;*btc bounces* 411064;1386384038;kakobreklaa;like a dead cat 411065;1386384197;pankkake;http://i.imgur.com/TiMJ2WB.png lel 411066;1386384291;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.31999941 BTC [+] 411067;1386384352;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.31999942 BTC [+] 411068;1386384629;thestringpuller;;;calc 150 * 5 411069;1386384629;gribble;750 411070;1386384635;thestringpuller;;;calc 750 / 60 411071;1386384635;gribble;12.5 411072;1386384655;thestringpuller;;;calc 12.5 + (40 * 60) 411073;1386384655;gribble;2412.5 411074;1386384664;thestringpuller;;;calc 2412.5 / 60 411075;1386384664;gribble;40.2083333333 411076;1386384676;thestringpuller;;;calc 12.5 + 40 411077;1386384676;gribble;52.5 411078;1386384840;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00078739 = 5.3543 BTC [+] 411079;1386385222;benkay;dude mircea_popescu the options contracts not being on whole btc and that not being called out in the trade symbol is totally bogus 411080;1386385466;dub;http://i.imgur.com/rLhaCT6.jpg 411081;1386385469;dub;tux has a gunt 411082;1386385481;mircea_popescu;benkay you know it says on the page 411083;1386386426;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.14995 BTC [+] 411084;1386386515;benkay;page is for humans to read. until this change MPSIC contained all relevant information. 411085;1386386548;benkay;totally breaks referential transparency of MPSIC. 411086;1386386595;mircea_popescu;yeah well, once we get a coin that doesn't change three degrees of magnitude a year, we'll have referential transparency 411087;1386386640;KRS|gotyawallet;http://0.t.4cdn.org/b/thumb/1386384897323s.jpg 411088;1386386888;benkay;well, referencial transparency of MPSIC with regards to contract. before this change, all relevant details to pricing the option were in the MPSIC. 411089;1386386951;benkay;and what is someone supposed to do when the MPEx takes its web page down, eh? 411090;1386386956;benkay;the 411091;1386386986;mod6;use assbot 411092;1386386991;mod6;or mpexbot 411093;1386387094;thestringpuller;http://i.imgur.com/4kurhWN.jpg 411094;1386387110;pankkake;;;google the many ways of talking to mpex 411095;1386387110;gribble;Measuring Student Expectations in University Physics: The MPEX ...: ; 3. MPEX-II Survey - UMD Department of Physics: ; [Mpex.co] The biggest scam in bitcoin history? - Bitcoin Forum: 411096;1386387117;pankkake;okay 411097;1386387117;mod6;thestringpuller: haha 411098;1386387158;thestringpuller;;;google site:trilema.com talking to mpex 411099;1386387158;gribble;The many ways available for talking to MPEx pe Trilema - Un blog ...: ; MPEx tech stuff pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; MPEx DDOSed, an epic. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: 411100;1386387680;mircea_popescu;benkay "all" in some sense of "all". 411101;1386387788;benkay;mod6: can I get lot size out of assbot? 411102;1386387964;jurov`;!t m ^oix 411103;1386387965;assbot;[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / 112.71384346 / 112.71384346 (3175 shares, 119.31 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC) 411104;1386388866;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 3 @ 0.055 = 0.165 BTC [+] 411105;1386388927;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14900 @ 0.00078739 = 11.7321 BTC [+] 411106;1386389964;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 125 @ 0.00298999 = 0.3737 BTC [+] 411107;1386390208;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [7C] 250 @ 0.0077 = 1.925 BTC 411108;1386390331;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00298999 = 0.1495 BTC [+] 411109;1386391611;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 443 @ 0.00299879 = 1.3285 BTC [+] {6} 411110;1386391612;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4250 @ 0.00078466 = 3.3348 BTC [-] 411111;1386391773;nubbins`;drunk 411112;1386391979;nubbins`;leonard cohen 411113;1386392092;nubbins`;new skin for the old ceremony 411114;1386392099;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.31102547 BTC [-] 411115;1386392100;nubbins`;isle of wight 1970 411116;1386392102;nubbins`;etc 411117;1386392104;nubbins`;&c 411118;1386392104;gribble;Error: "c" is not a valid command. 411119;1386392160;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.31100305 = 0.622 BTC [-] {2} 411120;1386392343;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.308682 = 1.5434 BTC [-] {4} 411121;1386393319;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00078481 = 2.2759 BTC [+] 411122;1386394295;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 703 @ 0.00078466 = 0.5516 BTC [-] 411123;1386396491;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 828 @ 0.00299048 = 2.4761 BTC [-] {2} 411124;1386396636;KRS|gotyawallet;just turn your monitors upside down and BUY. Looks much better this way. 411125;1386397227;Vexual;ain't she a beauty? 411126;1386397259;KRS|gotyawallet;hey whats up vexual 411127;1386397286;KRS|gotyawallet;i found a stash of old coin i think i'm gonna get drunk 411128;1386397321;Vexual;to freedom! 411129;1386397711;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23600 @ 0.00078522 = 18.5312 BTC [+] {2} 411130;1386398260;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.31469999 BTC [+] 411131;1386398362;Vexual;and.. johnnie walker time in bejing again 411132;1386398398;KRS|gotyawallet;i have a chance now to convert 225 LTC I found to 8 BTC should I? 411133;1386398416;KRS|gotyawallet;LTC has like $20+ more to go to reach its previous level 411134;1386398451;Vexual;buy 4 411135;1386398455;KRS|gotyawallet;but seemed to hold up pretty well during this decline 411136;1386398461;KRS|gotyawallet;hmm interesting 411137;1386398468;KRS|gotyawallet;hedge my risk 411138;1386398714;KRS|gotyawallet;this might take a minute for you, but let it ride you might like 411139;1386398715;KRS|gotyawallet;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xK7DzvF8mTY 411140;1386398715;ozbot;Just-Ice & KRS-ONE "Blah, Blah, Blah" video - YouTube 411141;1386398736;KRS|gotyawallet;New York style rap great beat/melody 411142;1386399236;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.31716666 = 1.903 BTC [+] {2} 411143;1386399419;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 40 @ 0.02947297 = 1.1789 BTC [+] {4} 411144;1386399968;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.3125 = 0.625 BTC [-] 411145;1386400756;Vexual;not a real doctor greg munchausens might have to top up his new fund from his pocket again 411146;1386400761;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.30902 BTC [-] 411147;1386400884;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.309 BTC [-] 411148;1386401005;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.00302403 = 0.121 BTC [-] 411149;1386401066;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 105 @ 0.00300047 = 0.315 BTC [+] {3} 411150;1386401067;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 68 @ 0.00301008 = 0.2047 BTC [-] {2} 411151;1386401127;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1879 @ 0.0030101 = 5.656 BTC [+] {3} 411152;1386401169;Vexual;no profit for the year, blaming a broken dick bone and an irrational market 411153;1386401188;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.003024 = 0.1512 BTC [+] 411154;1386401409;ruru;everyone here good? 411155;1386401420;ruru;not panicking? 411156;1386401436;Vexual;its a free market baby, and it's much different to working out how much some fat bastard is willing to pay for a cheap sim card 411157;1386401475;Vexual;just me, im fine 411158;1386401494;ruru;i have around.. 250ish.. wondering what i should do 411159;1386401513;ruru;ofc, its nothing like you whales here.. i need some guidance.. i thinkl this is where the btc elite hangs around, no? 411160;1386401538;Vexual;ive heard that 411161;1386401562;ruru;wondering why its so silent.. perhaps everyone is selling hehe 411162;1386401604;mircea_popescu;it's silent ?! 411163;1386401612;mircea_popescu;;;ticker 411164;1386401613;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 650.0, Best ask: 654.41941, Bid-ask spread: 4.41941, Last trade: 650.0, 24 hour volume: 85341.25957204, 24 hour low: 610.0, 24 hour high: 1118.989, 24 hour vwap: 841.56864 411165;1386401642;ruru;hey mp 411166;1386401649;mircea_popescu;ello 411167;1386401668;ruru;yeah silent.. I talked to my buddy.. he just sold 400+ BTC for around 280k 411168;1386401669;ruru;oh well. 411169;1386401709;mircea_popescu;theres worse fates. 411170;1386401724;Vexual;mp called this wave weeks ago 411171;1386401761;ruru;ah, I was at jd trollbox chat 411172;1386401873;ruru;you guys seem to be fine.. I'll just hold 411173;1386401901;Vexual;very perceptive, can u see the dice b4 they roll? 411174;1386401927;ruru;Nope, I can take an educated guess, but I don't really know what I'm doing.. 411175;1386401954;Vexual;yeah i havent gambled any bitcoin since bitjack did me 411176;1386401957;ruru;Thing is, I've been thru the 266-55.. nothings changed much I guess.. 411177;1386402110;mircea_popescu;bitcoin will continue to move for the foreseeable future. 411178;1386402179;Vexual;really is a thing of beauty 411179;1386402225;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [7C] 76 @ 0.0077 = 0.5852 BTC 411180;1386402352;Vexual;so many chinese birds not getting diamonds for christmas 411181;1386402401;Vexual;no cheese, no christmas 411182;1386402511;Vexual;chinese bank thing is a bit like gay marriage 411183;1386402530;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 95 @ 0.00300269 = 0.2853 BTC [-] 411184;1386402671;Vexual;no one cares, and if it was enforced rather than not an option, people would get even shittier 411185;1386402957;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00078546 = 8.7186 BTC [+] 411186;1386403002;Vexual;nsa sticks come with a slick chinese translation manual? 411187;1386403323;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10750 @ 0.00078554 = 8.4446 BTC [+] {2} 411188;1386403478;KRS|gotyawallet;Buy NigCoin for the Rapper in you. 411189;1386403485;KRS|gotyawallet;0.0000001 btc 411190;1386403537;Vexual;im soloing hobonikels 411191;1386403767;KRS|gotyawallet;haha 411192;1386403789;KRS|gotyawallet;i'm trolling everyone to tell them sell btc while you can dont be proud, gather what you have left and buy Barbecue Coins 411193;1386403807;KRS|gotyawallet;trollboxes and irc should be a paid subscription its so entertaining 411194;1386403823;KRS|gotyawallet;then i buy up their btc maybe haha 411195;1386403831;KRS|gotyawallet;great deals all over the place 411196;1386403888;Vexual;you know whats entertaining, one bitcoin node in space 411197;1386403895;Vexual;maybe 2 411198;1386403905;Vexual;thats gotta be a troll 411199;1386404077;Vexual;4000 hard drives and a paspi hanging off a balloon 411200;1386404156;Vexual;get back to work gav 411201;1386404396;KRS|gotyawallet;lelz 411202;1386404396;KRS|gotyawallet;http://i.imgur.com/ii2k6EV.jpg 411203;1386404716;Ukyo;anyone there? 411204;1386404756;Vexual;mircea is eating caviar on toast 411205;1386404774;KRS|gotyawallet;i'm trolling or leet cybersecks 411206;1386404812;Vexual;can u hear us over the fans ukyo? 411207;1386404841;Ukyo;heh 411208;1386404847;Ukyo;anyone wanna login to bf? 411209;1386404852;Ukyo;see if things look correct ontheir account? 411210;1386404862;Vexual;i dont have an account sorry 411211;1386404870;Ukyo;thanks tho :) 411212;1386404883;Vexual;krs ? 411213;1386404904;KRS|gotyawallet;eh 411214;1386404933;KRS|gotyawallet;someone wants to have cybersecks with me? 411215;1386404973;Vexual;ozcoin? 411216;1386405011;KRS|gotyawallet;idk anything about ozcoin 411217;1386405036;KRS|gotyawallet;sell whatever btc you have to me ill take it off you hands- buy the scummy alt coins you'll make a few bucks here and there 411218;1386405702;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00078744 = 4.4097 BTC [+] {3} 411219;1386406983;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 2 @ 0.05689 = 0.1138 BTC [+] 411220;1386407044;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.31794795 = 1.5897 BTC [+] {3} 411221;1386407776;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11400 @ 0.0007838 = 8.9353 BTC [-] {2} 411222;1386408325;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 9 @ 0.05799065 = 0.5219 BTC [+] {4} 411223;1386409484;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 234 @ 0.00302417 = 0.7077 BTC [+] {2} 411224;1386409606;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 5000 @ 0.00049978 = 2.4989 BTC [-] {3} 411225;1386410399;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19300 @ 0.0007821 = 15.0945 BTC [-] {2} 411226;1386410521;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 96 @ 0.0030242 = 0.2903 BTC [+] {2} 411227;1386410949;KRS|gotyawallet;www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDVORKo8rYs&feature=player_embedded 411228;1386415218;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 80 @ 0.00305887 = 0.2447 BTC [-] {3} 411229;1386415279;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.30966667 = 0.929 BTC [-] {3} 411230;1386415401;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 415 @ 0.00302 = 1.2533 BTC [-] 411231;1386416354;KRS|gotyawallet;Vexual_Slut: https://soundcloud.com/#ytcracker/ytcracker-x-skrillex-x-damian 411232;1386416668;taub;maybe instead of fucking breaking their exchange 411233;1386416673;taub;when someone puts up a big order 411234;1386416681;taub;gox should just not let you place that big of an order 411235;1386416682;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1600 @ 0.00280431 = 4.4869 BTC [-] {9} 411236;1386416684;taub;huh 411237;1386416696;taub;, huh? HUH HUH. top gox quality 411238;1386417086;Diablo-D3;+ticker 411239;1386417091;Diablo-D3;;;ticker 411240;1386417092;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 768.0, Best ask: 769.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.00000, Last trade: 769.0, 24 hour volume: 108228.52716603, 24 hour low: 576.0, 24 hour high: 1081.0, 24 hour vwap: 797.04797 411241;1386417170;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3177 BTC [+] 411242;1386417231;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 55 @ 0.0031292 = 0.1721 BTC [+] {2} 411243;1386417292;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8460 @ 0.00078379 = 6.6309 BTC [+] 411244;1386417712;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8AOAap6_k4 411245;1386417713;ozbot;Womack & Womack - Teardrops - YouTube 411246;1386417779;Vexual;http://www.firebox.com/product/5587/Discworld-Ales 411247;1386417781;ozbot;Discworld Ales - buy at Firebox.com 411248;1386418209;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xJWQPdG7jE 411249;1386418210;ozbot;Kool & the Gang - Get Down On It - YouTube 411250;1386418512;assbot;[MPEX] [O] [O.USD.C095T] 50 @ 0.02498188 = 1.2491 BTC [-] 411251;1386419366;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 37 @ 0.00305019 = 0.1129 BTC [-] 411252;1386419471;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uteq2UyaUNM 411253;1386419471;ozbot;Wiley - 'Evolve Or Be Extinct' (Official Video) - YouTube 411254;1386420367;KRS|gotyawallet;hey sup vexual 411255;1386420375;KRS|gotyawallet;thanks for the links 411256;1386420427;KRS|gotyawallet;try this one out 411257;1386420428;KRS|gotyawallet;https://soundcloud.com/ytcracker/ytcracker-x-skrillex-x-damian 411258;1386420433;KRS|gotyawallet;soundcloud is badass 411259;1386420647;assbot;[MPEX] [O] [O.USD.C095T] 50 @ 0.01871302 = 0.9357 BTC [-] 411260;1386420878;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fmo1Sjn7dg 411261;1386420879;ozbot;Aphex Twin - Window Licker - YouTube 411262;1386420893;Vexual;just for the intro 411263;1386420951;KRS|gotyawallet;ok 411264;1386421015;KRS|gotyawallet;"window licker" sounds familiar to me 411265;1386421033;Vexual;its a uphemism for eatiing lsd 411266;1386421062;KRS|gotyawallet;how odd 411267;1386421073;Vexual;or being naturally redundant 411268;1386421132;Vexual;or riding in the back and having nothing better to occupy your time 411269;1386421396;Vexual;la semaine, la teigne, l'année, la vie 411270;1386421471;Vexual;sieze le mo 411271;1386421589;Vexual;*la? :) 411272;1386421655;Vexual;dont sieze the mostache 411273;1386421989;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00078284 = 7.5935 BTC [-] 411274;1386423238;bitesak;;;ticker 411275;1386423238;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 800.0, Best ask: 802.0, Bid-ask spread: 2.00000, Last trade: 800.0, 24 hour volume: 112995.53774692, 24 hour low: 576.0, 24 hour high: 1065.0, 24 hour vwap: 795.68459 411276;1386423281;bitesak;http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/1s9g0c/mtgox_is_doing_its_instant_replay_bug_again/ 411277;1386423282;ozbot;MtGox is doing its "instant replay" bug again, causing havoc : BitcoinMarkets 411278;1386423343;Vexual;www 411279;1386424185;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 630 @ 0.00045201 = 0.2848 BTC [-] {4} 411280;1386424246;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [7C] 37 @ 0.0077 = 0.2849 BTC 411281;1386424429;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13600 @ 0.00078284 = 10.6466 BTC [-] 411282;1386424463;dexX7;;;goxlag 411283;1386424468;gribble;MtGox lag is 2.596908 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00520417455557 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter to its largest moon, Ganymede (0.007155 AU). 411284;1386424619;dexX7;"whenever there is a significant goxlag, sell and buy back at 1/2-2/3.." 411285;1386424856;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.14995 BTC [+] 411286;1386425466;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00300427 = 0.3004 BTC [-] {2} 411287;1386425771;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 95 @ 0.00300909 = 0.2859 BTC [+] 411288;1386426198;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 224 @ 0.00300909 = 0.674 BTC [+] 411289;1386426930;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.31639999 BTC [-] 411290;1386428089;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.31646666 = 0.9494 BTC [+] {2} 411291;1386428272;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15400 @ 0.0007818 = 12.0397 BTC [-] 411292;1386428699;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3165 BTC [+] 411293;1386429114;KRS|gotyawallet;http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2013/12/world-powers-react-bitcoin-boom-2013127115950323990.html 411294;1386429114;bitesak;;;ticker 411295;1386429114;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 786.48747, Best ask: 797.8, Bid-ask spread: 11.31253, Last trade: 798.69999, 24 hour volume: 116582.81388338, 24 hour low: 576.0, 24 hour high: 1055.43185, 24 hour vwap: 794.64355 411296;1386429115;ozbot;World powers react to the Bitcoin boom - Features - Al Jazeera English 411297;1386429863;mircea_popescu;so since mpoe sold calls i take it the drop was but temporary ? 411298;1386429866;mircea_popescu;;;ticker 411299;1386429867;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 760.0, Best ask: 769.0, Bid-ask spread: 9.00000, Last trade: 760.0, 24 hour volume: 117036.95780807, 24 hour low: 576.0, 24 hour high: 1045.0, 24 hour vwap: 793.5085 411300;1386429895;mircea_popescu;what a sad fate, to have to revisit the price levels of two weeks ago for six hours. 411301;1386429909;mircea_popescu;i think this insult might be the end of bitcoin!!11eleventy 411302;1386429969;dexX7;omg mp said it's teh end of bitcoin :( 411303;1386430006;mircea_popescu;quick, to the fortune.com 411304;1386430030;dexX7;hehe 411305;1386430037;dexX7;are mpex users usually right with their predictions? 411306;1386430059;mircea_popescu;well, they are usually wrong, as all option traders are 411307;1386430069;mircea_popescu;except when they are right they make out hand over fist. 411308;1386430102;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.31749899 BTC [+] 411309;1386430107;dexX7;i thought so, but was wondering, because you said "calls sold, so the drop is temporary" 411310;1386430114;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2011/max-pain/ << in romanian, but you should be able to follow then umbers 411311;1386430115;ozbot;Max pain pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 411312;1386430124;mircea_popescu;well i was being sarcastic. 411313;1386430173;mircea_popescu;anyway, that link is a blast from the past 22 nov 2011. back then the strikers were 1.5 to 2 usd 411314;1386430200;mircea_popescu;mpex didn't exist yet, mpoe was trading on its own page. which people like jcpham i think actually remember. 411315;1386430208;dexX7;ah 411316;1386430407;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2247 @ 0.00078284 = 1.759 BTC [+] 411317;1386430653;mircea_popescu;o hey i thought bitbet was down 411318;1386430663;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla scammed me! 411319;1386431137;mircea_popescu;;;bcstats 411320;1386431139;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 35 @ 0.003 = 0.105 BTC [-] {2} 411321;1386431140;gribble;Current Blocks: 273614 | Current Difficulty: 7.074082830514966E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 274175 | Next Difficulty In: 561 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 18 hours, 19 minutes, and 30 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 897698532.416 | Estimated Percent Change: 26.89964 411322;1386431200;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [7C] 21 @ 0.0077 = 0.1617 BTC 411323;1386432103;dexX7;http://www.businessinsider.com/knc-jupiter-hashrate-paradox-2013-12 411324;1386432104;ozbot;KnC Jupiter Hashrate Paradox - Business Insider 411325;1386432115;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6617 @ 0.00078358 = 5.1849 BTC [+] 411326;1386432549;dexX7;oh another ipo at havelock 411327;1386432558;dexX7;looks they are serious with "50 new listings in one year" 411328;1386432661;nubbins`;http://www.brainlesstales.com/images/misc/bitcoin-roller-coaster.gif 411329;1386432671;nubbins`;dexX7: 12 per quarter! 411330;1386432689;dexX7;hehe i love that picture 411331;1386432717;nubbins`;Vexual: my understanding is that window licker is a perjorative for kids who take short buses 411332;1386432740;nubbins`;<- used to listen to a lot of aphex twin 411333;1386432847;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 85 @ 0.003 = 0.255 BTC [-] 411334;1386432969;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 364 @ 0.0030117 = 1.0963 BTC [-] {13} 411335;1386435409;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.00078312 = 10.5721 BTC [-] {2} 411336;1386435431;bloctoc;http://mpex.co/faq.html#17 why has the fee stayed the same for so long? 411337;1386435531;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 74 @ 0.003 = 0.222 BTC [-] 411338;1386435865;mircea_popescu;bloctoc it hasn't. it was 0 for a month in spring 2012, then 20 up until glbse folded 411339;1386435879;mircea_popescu;i suppose i sohuld lift it to 50 seeing how the glbse v2.0 crop failed, but i was kinda meh. 411340;1386435882;mircea_popescu;next year or w/e. 411341;1386436141;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.1518 = 0.4554 BTC [+] 411342;1386436934;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23250 @ 0.00078178 = 18.1764 BTC [-] {3} 411343;1386436934;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.003 = 0.6 BTC [-] 411344;1386437853;pankkake;"The bitcoins are simply not there anymore" 411345;1386437882;thestringpuller;;;ticker 411346;1386437882;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 736.12121, Best ask: 750.0, Bid-ask spread: 13.87879, Last trade: 736.12121, 24 hour volume: 108338.64016290, 24 hour low: 576.0, 24 hour high: 984.99, 24 hour vwap: 763.08119 411347;1386437894;thestringpuller;what does it all mean?!? 411348;1386438031;dexX7;hehe pankkake.. and that after one week waiting "for the great explaination" 411349;1386438067;pankkake;from what I undertand only a portion of bitcoins will be refunded, due to the "proportionnal" 411350;1386438094;pankkake;will it be the same for asicminer shares? :D 411351;1386438162;dexX7;2-3 weeks before everything went down he received exact the amount of dividends as he should 411352;1386438171;dexX7;implying he held all the shares 411353;1386438213;mircea_popescu;who is this ? 411354;1386438237;dexX7;ukyo 411355;1386438239;mircea_popescu;a 411356;1386438242;pankkake;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=348468.msg3863522#msg3863522 411357;1386438244;ozbot;[BitFunder] Moving Forward/Resolution Process 411358;1386438417;nubbins`;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=348468.msg3863746#msg3863746 411359;1386438419;ozbot;[BitFunder] Moving Forward/Resolution Process 411360;1386438420;nubbins`;what the fuck does that mean? 411361;1386438433;nubbins`;"If you promise to support my family, following me making that information public at this very moment in time. 411362;1386438434;nubbins`;You will have to excuse the fact that I value my freedom." 411363;1386438474;mircea_popescu;somebody should get together all the stuff along these lines starting with tawsix, kludge, harnett etc. 411364;1386438481;mircea_popescu;it's shockingly repetitive. 411365;1386438503;dexX7;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=361235.0 411366;1386438505;ozbot;Activemining funds -- exposed. The real man behind it all... 411367;1386438553;nubbins`;you could publish a comic book 411368;1386438560;nubbins`;"Anatomy of a Scam: The Anthology" 411369;1386438567;Apocalyptic;heh 411370;1386438585;pankkake;I'd preorder it! 411371;1386438602;mircea_popescu;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=361235.msg3867377#msg3867377 not bad. 411372;1386438604;ozbot;Activemining funds -- exposed. The real man behind it all... 411373;1386438676;pankkake;he PMed me his find of Gerald Slaughter earlier, with http://postimg.org/image/xrr3427s5/ 411374;1386438697;dexX7;lol wtf 411375;1386438697;pankkake;that's some serious stalking skiils 411376;1386438745;mircea_popescu;yeah. 411377;1386438930;Apocalyptic;lol pankkake 411378;1386438950;Apocalyptic;that thoroughness 411379;1386439313;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.152 BTC [+] 411380;1386439723;nubbins`;everything is a scam 411381;1386439779;ThickAsThieves;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=348468.msg3867391#msg3867391 "Judy does arbitrage" 411382;1386439780;ozbot;[BitFunder] Moving Forward/Resolution Process 411383;1386439786;ThickAsThieves;Shit get her in here for a chat! 411384;1386439923;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 259 @ 0.0029 = 0.7511 BTC [-] {2} 411385;1386439984;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 154 @ 0.00282463 = 0.435 BTC [-] {3} 411386;1386440045;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.3103 = 3.103 BTC [-] {5} 411387;1386440046;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1000 @ 0.00304381 = 3.0438 BTC [+] {6} 411388;1386440106;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 479 @ 0.00282048 = 1.351 BTC [-] {5} 411389;1386440185;mircea_popescu;she could have her very own rota 411390;1386440214;Apocalyptic;what is Ukyo still doing here ? 411391;1386440228;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00078101 = 3.8269 BTC [-] 411392;1386440280;thestringpuller;lolololol 411393;1386440290;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 87 @ 0.00282631 = 0.2459 BTC [+] 411394;1386440399;dexX7;and the winner is.... https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i.imgur.com/J3YZM0V.png&fnr 411395;1386440626;kakobrekla;lol ok 411396;1386440644;kakobrekla;but alberto is not involved in that or what 411397;1386440671;kakobrekla;its activemining or something? 411398;1386440701;Apocalyptic;alberto is everywhere kako 411399;1386440809;kakobrekla;;;seen alberto 411400;1386440809;gribble;I have not seen alberto. 411401;1386440865;dexX7;hehe, no.. alberto is not affiliated with actm 411402;1386440960;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00078365 = 8.3851 BTC [+] 411403;1386441082;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.0029 = 0.29 BTC [-] 411404;1386441104;mircea_popescu;alberto the scamjesus 411405;1386441129;mircea_popescu;i gotta say these slaughter people got the most mileage out of a garage. 411406;1386441531;pankkake;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=361235.msg3867863#msg3867863 lol I forgot about the report. this is probably one of the origins of the personality cult around him I guess 411407;1386441533;ozbot;Activemining funds -- exposed. The real man behind it all... 411408;1386441692;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 47 @ 0.00299018 = 0.1405 BTC [+] {2} 411409;1386441753;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00304484 = 0.3045 BTC [-] {3} 411410;1386441997;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 66 @ 0.00295491 = 0.195 BTC [-] {2} 411411;1386442241;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 124 @ 0.00304449 = 0.3775 BTC [-] {2} 411412;1386442302;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 175 @ 0.00305013 = 0.5338 BTC [+] {3} 411413;1386442546;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.1525 BTC [+] 411414;1386442648;Kleeck;Has everyone seen this? https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i.imgur.com/J3YZM0V.png&fnr 411415;1386442658;Kleeck;Credit to strmir 411416;1386442973;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 55 @ 0.00299 = 0.1645 BTC [-] 411417;1386443010;kakobrekla;whats happening with active mining anyway 411418;1386443035;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.1525 BTC [+] 411419;1386443209;diametric;Kleeck: ha i have that exact workbench 411420;1386443238;Kleeck;Not much. ActM has gone full circle to people claiming it's a scam again. 411421;1386443255;Kleeck;Ken says products have been shipped. 411422;1386443260;Kleeck;So, believe what you want? 411423;1386443264;Kleeck;I guess. 411424;1386443280;Kleeck;No hard evidence, though - of a product shipping. 411425;1386443420;kakobrekla;is mtgox still fee-less 411426;1386443613;mircea_popescu;only when it lags. 411427;1386443679;Apocalyptic;you mean only when it loops 411428;1386443766;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.3165 = 0.9495 BTC [+] 411429;1386443933;mircea_popescu;Laggy Loops, the new bitcoin confectionery. 411430;1386444408;thestringpuller;;;goxlag 411431;1386444409;gribble;MtGox lag is 0 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ... nowhere, really (0 AU). 411432;1386444504;benkay;this Wot thing is pretty good at imposing competence thresholds - last time I interacted with that Ukyo individual I asked him to auth and he told me that he'd forgotten the passphrase to his WoT keys. 411433;1386444544;benkay;i wasn't trading or anything, just attesting to his doing a thing, but man 411434;1386444577;benkay;WoT or GTFO. 411435;1386444629;kakobrekla;heh 411436;1386444721;jurov`;wat? Ukyo can't gribble-auth now? 411437;1386444735;jurov`;;;rated Ukyo 411438;1386444735;gribble;You have not yet rated user Ukyo 411439;1386444804;mircea_popescu;i never heard that before. 411440;1386444964;jurov`;;;rate Ukyo -2 BF mess, no real announcements 411441;1386444965;gribble;Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system. 411442;1386444986;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.31749899 = 0.9525 BTC [+] 411443;1386445011;kakobrekla;;;rate Ukyo -1 GLBSEv3 411444;1386445011;gribble;Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system. 411445;1386445014;kakobrekla;oh 411446;1386445020;jurov`;;;gpg eauth freenode:#bitcoin-otc:c386bbf5c259362f22240c71cf6e3933ce3e1b2acace51c648760a7e 411447;1386445020;gribble;Error: This nick is not registered. Please register. 411448;1386445021;kakobrekla;was it v3 even? 411449;1386445038;kakobrekla;;;rate Ukyo -1 GLBSEv3 411450;1386445038;gribble;Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system. 411451;1386445044;kakobrekla;fu gribbah 411452;1386445047;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.32155554 = 2.894 BTC [+] {3} 411453;1386445052;kakobrekla;;;rate Ukyo -1 GLBSEv3 411454;1386445052;gribble;Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings. 411455;1386445059;kakobrekla;what is dis some joke 411456;1386445060;jcpham;when was this benkay 411457;1386445065;kakobrekla;;;rate Ukto -1 GLBSEv3 411458;1386445067;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user Ukto has been recorded. 411459;1386445075;jurov;;;gpg eauth freenode:#bitcoin-otc:c386bbf5c259362f22240c71cf6e3933ce3e1b2acace51c648760a7e 411460;1386445076;gribble;Error: This nick is not registered. Please register. 411461;1386445081;jcpham;i spoke to ukto a few weeks back and he was auth'd at that time 411462;1386445087;kakobrekla;fail level over 900 411463;1386445088;kakobrekla;0 411464;1386445104;kakobrekla;even failed that 411465;1386445108;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.32199999 BTC [+] 411466;1386445118;jcpham;;;seen ukyo 411467;1386445118;gribble;ukyo was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 11 hours, 10 minutes, and 47 seconds ago: thanks tho :) 411468;1386445150;Apocalyptic;only a -1 kakobrekla ? 411469;1386445153;Apocalyptic;you're too kind 411470;1386445157;kakobrekla;i had no stake 411471;1386445167;kakobrekla;i dont care really 411472;1386445183;kakobrekla;its already clear as day 411473;1386445203;kakobrekla;my minus nine thousand has no real affect 411474;1386445229;jurov;;;gpg eauth jurov freenode:#bitcoin-otc:965c5ba3277ccc9790373c32d6bf7c26d131488961ba5262f28fd9a4 411475;1386445230;gribble;(gpg eauth ) -- Initiate authentication for user . You must have registered a GPG key with the bot for this to work. You will be given a link to a page which contains a one time password encrypted with your key. Decrypt, and use the 'everify' command with it. Your passphrase will expire in 10 minutes. 411476;1386445239;jurov;;;gpg everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:965c5ba3277ccc9790373c32d6bf7c26d131488961ba5262f28fd9a4 411477;1386445240;gribble;You are now authenticated for user jurov with key 677ABD62D0AEE7D7 411478;1386445245;jurov;;;rate Ukyo -2 BF mess, no real announcements 411479;1386445246;gribble;Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings. 411480;1386445252;jurov;;;rate Ukto -2 BF mess, no real announcements 411481;1386445253;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating for user Ukto has changed from -1 to -2. 411482;1386445258;jurov;mess indeed 411483;1386445317;jcpham;i probably have chat transcript of our pm 411484;1386445324;jcpham;where i asked him if he was scamming 411485;1386445331;jcpham;as if that means anything 411486;1386445349;mircea_popescu;o look at that kakobrekla, 113 - 109 411487;1386445353;jcpham;but hashpower closed suddenly, he ran that too 411488;1386445353;mircea_popescu;you're buying dinner 411489;1386445361;Apocalyptic; where i asked him if he was scamming // hum 411490;1386445363;jcpham;and hashpower was like gpumax 411491;1386445373;jcpham;and you know who ran gpumax 411492;1386445374;mircea_popescu;jcpham afaik he paid out anyone on closedown. 411493;1386445386;jcpham;afaik he did too 411494;1386445396;jcpham;ukyo has always been highly legit on my radar 411495;1386445400;jcpham;so this seems sad 411496;1386445414;mircea_popescu;asicminer pts did it! 411497;1386445431;jcpham;no involvement over at bitfunder 411498;1386445445;jcpham;mining turds!! not again! 411499;1386445459;jcpham;glbsev3 -50% roi wtf 411500;1386445499;mircea_popescu;where is that image 411501;1386445595;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/134654389322.png 411502;1386445642;nubbins`;invest or get
capital 411503;1386445662;jcpham;i'm about to steal that mircea_popescu 411504;1386445663;mircea_popescu;bropital 411505;1386445667;mircea_popescu;jcpham go aheed 411506;1386445868;jcpham;http://fuckbitcoin.com/pit-of-despair/ 411507;1386445871;jcpham;bottom right 411508;1386446013;pankkake;http://i.imgur.com/VzOf4Xb.png you might want my Universal Bitcoin Security Chart 411509;1386446054;pankkake;oh I forgot about bitinstant. "We're here, 411510;1386446055;pankkake;working hard" 411511;1386446061;benkay;jcpham: a few weeks ago when he wanted people to attest to his payouts on the forum. 411512;1386446098;jurov;pankkake: can coinbr license it? 411513;1386446113;jurov;live.coinbr.clearly violates your patent 411514;1386446128;pankkake;really? their style is really weird 411515;1386446153;pankkake;not necessarily bad but I wonder why those choices 411516;1386446557;jurov;what choices? 411517;1386446786;jurov;Quote from: cryptocyprus on Today at 10:52:59 AM "The bitcoins are simply not there anymore....", "....the payments will be distributed proportionally...." 411518;1386446817;jurov;it progresses nicely 411519;1386446920;kakobrekla;sure mircea_popescu, a dinner for rating whores! 411520;1386447111;pankkake;and the people who were dumb enough to put anything in buttfondler now praise him 411521;1386447117;pankkake;cause they want to be bailed out 411522;1386447123;pankkake;what a nice bunch of scammers 411523;1386447216;jurov;you have very sharp hindsight 411524;1386447301;pankkake;this is depressing… I think I'm just going to sell everything, bitcoins included, and forget about all this shit 411525;1386447333;Apocalyptic;pankkake about to ragequit 411526;1386447942;mircea_popescu;jurov admire the choice of the presumptive "pr" to mix up their company into a wad of shit, resulting in a much more smelly neobee than otherwise. 411527;1386447958;mircea_popescu;i should start a thread "why mpoe-pr is your pr god, fucktards" 411528;1386447997;mircea_popescu;pankkake it's kind of how the "social media" works, which is why business despises it so. 411529;1386448707;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.1525 BTC [+] 411530;1386449407;KRS|gotyawallet;ghttp://i.imgur.com/99nNSse.jpg 411531;1386450293;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 16 @ 0.32 = 5.12 BTC [-] 411532;1386450551;Apocalyptic;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=361514.0;topicseen // cryptsy turning to a mess, what a surprise 411533;1386450553;ozbot;Cryptsy - We Need To Start Filing Complaints with the Florida Attorney General 411534;1386451219;thestringpuller;;;ticker 411535;1386451219;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 762.00001, Best ask: 770.0, Bid-ask spread: 7.99999, Last trade: 773.0, 24 hour volume: 99670.62420426, 24 hour low: 576.0, 24 hour high: 954.0, 24 hour vwap: 739.52907 411536;1386451239;thestringpuller;;;seen jurov` 411537;1386451239;gribble;jurov` was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 hour, 43 minutes, and 39 seconds ago: ;;gpg eauth freenode:#bitcoin-otc:c386bbf5c259362f22240c71cf6e3933ce3e1b2acace51c648760a7e 411538;1386451259;jurov;oh i renamed me back 411539;1386451397;thestringpuller;nice nice 411540;1386451452;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.31399999 BTC [-] 411541;1386453465;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15500 @ 0.00078369 = 12.1472 BTC [+] {2} 411542;1386453770;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 18 @ 0.02959994 = 0.5328 BTC [+] 411543;1386453831;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 13 @ 0.02959995 = 0.3848 BTC [+] {2} 411544;1386453892;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 16 @ 0.03014374 = 0.4823 BTC [+] {4} 411545;1386454136;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.1525 BTC [+] 411546;1386454197;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 14 @ 0.02820071 = 0.3948 BTC [+] {3} 411547;1386454258;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.1525 = 0.305 BTC [+] {2} 411548;1386454380;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 22 @ 0.02700045 = 0.594 BTC [-] {3} 411549;1386454441;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.1525 = 0.61 BTC [+] 411550;1386454777;mircea_popescu;I have a combined total of coins in limbo of about 63BTC. 411551;1386454782;mircea_popescu;idiots be idiots./ 411552;1386455012;copumpkin;I'll take 'em 411553;1386455219;kakobrekla;hm 411554;1386455220;kakobrekla;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=342122.msg3870510#msg3870510 411555;1386455222;ozbot;[Weexchange issue] The fall of Ukyo III - Updates and references 411556;1386455238;kakobrekla;can someone explain to me why are they fiddling with the fail of ukyo 411557;1386455459;bloctoc;what is the proper way to purchase plane tickets with crypto 411558;1386455476;bloctoc;? 411559;1386455555;kakobrekla;hm 411560;1386455560;pankkake;doesn't using bitcoin makes you a terrorist? 411561;1386455561;kakobrekla;there was a site that did that 411562;1386455581;bloctoc;I've heard of the site, but I can't remember the name. 411563;1386455621;kakobrekla;http://www.cheapair.com/ 411564;1386455621;ozbot;Cheap Air, Inc. - Search for Cheap Air Fare at CheapAir.com 411565;1386455625;kakobrekla;maybe 411566;1386455625;kakobrekla;https://btctrip.com/ 411567;1386455626;ozbot;BtcTrip - One for All, All for One 411568;1386455630;kakobrekla;dunno 411569;1386455648;bloctoc;cheap air sounds familiar. thanks! 411570;1386455656;kakobrekla;yw 411571;1386456503;mircea_popescu;Ken told me he has sold just about everything. He mentioned selling insurance, cars, suits, and he told me the story of his ISP business. 411572;1386456508;mircea_popescu;1. never trust a car salesman 411573;1386456513;mircea_popescu;2. never trust an insurance salesman 411574;1386456522;mircea_popescu;3. DEFINITELY never trust a cheap suit salesman 411575;1386456760;Apocalyptic;mircea_popescu, what about a cheap suit lawyer ? 411576;1386456820;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.1525 BTC [+] 411577;1386458056;mircea_popescu;or that. 411578;1386458243;mircea_popescu;http://bitcoinmagazine.org/the-color-of-gray-pe-trilema/ 411579;1386458245;ozbot;The color of gray pe Trilema | BitcoinMagazine.org 411580;1386458251;mircea_popescu;lol spamblog fail 411581;1386458336;pankkake;by the way http://trilema.com/2009/scrisul-de-mana/#comment-96516 is spam 411582;1386458476;mircea_popescu;pankkake i think it's "ironic" spam 411583;1386458496;pankkake;well it links to a fake nike shoe store or something 411584;1386458514;mircea_popescu;o it does ? 411585;1386458541;mircea_popescu;fixt. 411586;1386458600;mircea_popescu;http://bitbet.us/bet/519/btc-network-difficulty-to-top-1b-before-2014/ << and it's official, largest bet active on bitbet 411587;1386458602;ozbot;BitBet - BTC network difficulty to top 1B before 2014 411588;1386458614;mircea_popescu;;;bcstats 411589;1386458616;gribble;Current Blocks: 273673 | Current Difficulty: 7.074082830514966E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 274175 | Next Difficulty In: 502 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 12 hours, 50 minutes, and 54 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 898896881.935 | Estimated Percent Change: 27.06904 411590;1386458679;mircea_popescu;if somehow magically the next period is 5% there's gonna be some butthurt. 411591;1386459088;pankkake;didn't bet but I root for No now 411592;1386459626;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.0007838 = 5.565 BTC [+] 411593;1386460602;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10499 @ 0.00078387 = 8.2299 BTC [+] {2} 411594;1386462005;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.318 = 0.954 BTC [+] 411595;1386465116;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 10 @ 0.0505 = 0.505 BTC [-] {3} 411596;1386465644;Azelphur;mircea_popescu: I'm curious, how much of the usual trade on mpex is done by pyMPEX? 411597;1386466703;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.1524999 BTC [-] 411598;1386467068;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 709 @ 0.00049979 = 0.3544 BTC [+] {2} 411599;1386467373;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 250 @ 0.0005 = 0.125 BTC [+] 411600;1386467627;mircea_popescu;Azelphur i have no idea. 411601;1386467640;mircea_popescu;i don't think anyone actually types by hand tho. 411602;1386467705;Azelphur;mircea_popescu: would be interesting to see, probably could get it from user agent statistics if you have them 411603;1386468288;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2000 @ 0.0001198 = 0.2396 BTC [+] 411604;1386468410;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2600 @ 0.0001199 = 0.3117 BTC [+] 411605;1386468663;kakobrekla;I type by hand 411606;1386469598;mircea_popescu;Azelphur i don't keep such tho. 411607;1386469935;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.32299998 BTC [+] 411608;1386470789;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [7C] 13 @ 0.0077 = 0.1001 BTC 411609;1386471825;kakobrekla;>For many different reasons, such as for instance described in IV. Disposal. Also because the wear-levelling optimisation most SSDs natively employ makes it nigh-on impossible to actually delete anything you ever put on them. [?] 411610;1386471832;kakobrekla;will it blend? 411611;1386472111;IveBeenBit;It will blend! 411612;1386472477;mircea_popescu;hm ? 411613;1386472516;kakobrekla;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2eNhPC8wCQ 411614;1386472516;ozbot;Will it Blend - Patriot Flash Drive (original full length take) - YouTube 411615;1386472528;kakobrekla;closest they got to ssd 411616;1386472548;kakobrekla;but yeah 411617;1386472551;kakobrekla;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rofgMueCOqo 411618;1386472552;ozbot;Will It Blend? - iPhone 5 vs Galaxy S3 - YouTube 411619;1386472613;kakobrekla;btw iphone blends faster 411620;1386473289;mircea_popescu;ssd mary 411621;1386473717;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 21 @ 0.03169902 = 0.6657 BTC [+] {3} 411622;1386473962;the20year1;So, what kind of exchanges do you all feel most comfortable with? 411623;1386474099;Duffer1;one with known members of community that have demonstrated trustworthiness over a very long period of time 411624;1386474178;the20year1;does such exist? 411625;1386474189;Duffer1;mpex 411626;1386474257;Duffer1;maaayyybbee ciphertrade when it opens 411627;1386474303;the20year1;I'm looking at cipertrade, looks good to me 411628;1386474314;the20year1;I just really would like to get back on an exchange 411629;1386474346;Duffer1;kate's demonstrated trustworthiness, but competence remains to be seen 411630;1386474358;mike_c;coinbr is a good place to start 411631;1386474359;Duffer1;i like that Deprived is on board with that project 411632;1386474373;Apocalyptic;seems he is not Duffer1 411633;1386474401;Duffer1;wha? he's a founder unless something's changed 411634;1386474418;Apocalyptic;let me dig up his post 411635;1386474446;Apocalyptic;I bet she likes to advertise it so, for obvious PR reasins 411636;1386474450;Apocalyptic;*reasons 411637;1386474451;mod6;the blender vid is awesome 411638;1386474480;the20year1;I just hope that they build a framework, or someone does that won't run into SEC issues 411639;1386474499;Duffer1;they're going to run into sec issues 411640;1386474515;Apocalyptic;Duffer1, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=228327.msg3655452#msg3655452 411641;1386474534;Apocalyptic;"the new exchange being developed/run by the Ciphermine team. But we are NOT committed (in the sense of having promised to go there) to it - and, at present, I am not committed to being involved either as part of the operational team for it OR as an investor in it." 411642;1386474534;the20year1;Not exactly , our attourney says that it's quite possible for them to be SEC compliant 411643;1386474554;Apocalyptic;sounds pretty clear to me he's not involved in any way, let alone being a "founder" as you say 411644;1386474575;the20year1;I think 'founders' are more complicated, according to my brother who is involved with the startup in some way 411645;1386474584;Duffer1;the20year1 who's "our"? 411646;1386474646;Duffer1;interesting Apoc, the way the ciphertrade thread reads on litecointalk.org they make it sound like he's in on the ground floor 411647;1386474663;Apocalyptic;exactly 411648;1386474672;Apocalyptic;i've been misled too 411649;1386474673;the20year1;Our fund's attourney 411650;1386474685;Apocalyptic;fortunately someone here corrected me and linked that post 411651;1386474686;the20year1;who works with various VC firms and does SEC compliance for said firms 411652;1386474689;Duffer1;https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=7176.0 he's listed under Advisory board and investors 411653;1386474713;Apocalyptic;yeah, i've read the exact same post 411654;1386474727;Duffer1;the20year1 if you know someone involved with ciphertrade personally get them to approach lloyd's of london for theft insurance contract 411655;1386474747;Apocalyptic;Duffer1, huh 411656;1386474773;the20year1;I think that's a fantastic idea duffer 411657;1386474789;the20year1;I'll message my contact and see if they can get a quote 411658;1386474792;Duffer1;i know right 411659;1386474793;the20year1;i know i'd be willing to chip in for that :D 411660;1386474796;Apocalyptic;you think they will seriously consider such an offer ? 411661;1386474809;the20year1;lloyds? 411662;1386474815;Apocalyptic;yes 411663;1386474816;Duffer1;lloyd's likes new insurance opportunities 411664;1386474828;the20year1;they insure EVERYTHING 411665;1386474837;the20year1;http://money.howstuffworks.com/personal-finance/financial-planning/9-odd-things-insured-by-lloyds-of-london.htm 411666;1386474935;Apocalyptic;;;rate Ukto -2 Bitfunder's mess 411667;1386474937;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of -2 for user Ukto has been recorded. 411668;1386475848;ruru;silent here 411669;1386475849;mircea_popescu; Not exactly , our attourney says that it's quite possible for them to be SEC compliant <<< we've gone through this cycle about 20 times already. 411670;1386475894;mircea_popescu;see http://trilema.com/2013/the-story-of-pointless-and-witless/ 411671;1386475916;mircea_popescu;ruru try log.bitcoin-assets.com 411672;1386475943;KRS|gotyawallet;some chatter already that btc is all over 411673;1386475960;Apocalyptic;hum I actually read this one already 411674;1386475972;mircea_popescu;already ? it's been the talk of the town ever since we started raping the town 411675;1386475975;mircea_popescu;back in 2011. 411676;1386476049;KRS|gotyawallet;thats true forgot all that its been good for a while..good point.. 411677;1386476080;mircea_popescu;it's like... o buttcoins are worthless, o buttcoins aren't useful o butcoins are a a scam etc etc. 411678;1386476090;ruru;let them panick.. my poor buddy sold.. 400+ BTC, got $280k. then.. guess what. Bought back when BTC rebounded. He got fucked bothways by the market 411679;1386476100;mircea_popescu;buttways 411680;1386476104;ruru;lost around 57 btc in the process 411681;1386476168;mircea_popescu;that btc didn't belong in his hands obviously 411682;1386476194;Duffer1;i can empathize with the scammed, but not those on the losing end of speculation 411683;1386476462;mircea_popescu;dunno whether speculation or just panic 411684;1386476499;ruru;it was panic.. Dumped @ low 600s, put a bid @ 600.. then, pulled it for some reason. He wasn't at the right state of mind. 411685;1386476584;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 81 @ 0.0030468 = 0.2468 BTC [+] 411686;1386476785;mircea_popescu;daytrading without a license. 411687;1386476920;ruru;as long as this place isn't panicking, i think we're good. 411688;1386477623;random_cat;i logged into bitfailure and wedontexchange and see the ukto has followed through with the shuffel of assets 411689;1386478415;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.32299756 BTC [-] 411690;1386478535;the20year1;what cycle 20 times? 411691;1386478536;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 315 @ 0.00049999 = 0.1575 BTC [-] 411692;1386479424;mircea_popescu;the20year1 "our attuneys say so and so" 411693;1386479465;mircea_popescu;guy walks in a bar, asks some other guy "hey, are you an attuney ?" "sure pal" "ok don't you agree i could build an exchange ?" "sure pal" 411694;1386479473;mircea_popescu;exchange #5893490583094 is thus born. 411695;1386479506;mircea_popescu;sorry, i mean bit5893490583094coin 411696;1386481581;KRS|gotyawallet;;;seen vexual 411697;1386481582;gribble;vexual was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 16 hours, 10 minutes, and 38 seconds ago: www 411698;1386482074;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [7C] 31 @ 0.0077 = 0.2387 BTC 411699;1386482460;KRS|gotyawallet;https://soundcloud.com/#ytcracker/ytcracker-x-skrillex-x-damian 411700;1386482462;ozbot;SoundCloud - Share Your Sounds 411701;1386482623;KRS|gotyawallet;The robot voice in that song makes me imagine a giant doomsday alien robot on armageddon day destroying a city and killing people with laser-ray eyes and explosive charges launching from devices mounted to its hands. 411702;1386482657;KRS|gotyawallet;having a rather square body and head with smaller but long legs 411703;1386488779;KRS|gotyawallet;lmao 411704;1386488779;KRS|gotyawallet;claudioc: anyone wanna donate some coins to me?? i have no way to payoff this 2nd mortgage now... c mon guys u have my money at least let me get 0.1 btc 411705;1386488815;Duffer1;do you have his wallet? 411706;1386490492;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 2500 @ 0.00045113 = 1.1278 BTC [-] {5} 411707;1386490493;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.31400836 BTC [-] 411708;1386494457;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.00297525 = 2.9753 BTC [+] {7} 411709;1386495494;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.32298789 BTC [+] 411710;1386495738;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.32298789 BTC [+] 411711;1386496287;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 871 @ 0.0030468 = 2.6538 BTC [+] 411712;1386496409;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.3140258 = 1.2561 BTC [-] {2} 411713;1386497141;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1075 @ 0.0028466 = 3.0601 BTC [-] {9} 411714;1386497226;jurov;http://megiontechnologies.com/career.html multicultural team ftw 411715;1386497227;ozbot;Megion R&D: About 411716;1386499030;Kleeck;.d 411717;1386499030;ozbot;707408283.05150 | Next Diff in 434 blocks | Estimated Change: 25.4033% in 2d 5h 47m 11s 411718;1386500649;Diablo-D3;+ticker 411719;1386500654;Diablo-D3;;;ticker 411720;1386500654;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 762.01529, Best ask: 769.99999, Bid-ask spread: 7.98470, Last trade: 760.23281, 24 hour volume: 48633.24355535, 24 hour low: 653.0001, 24 hour high: 860.0, 24 hour vwap: 745.14452 411721;1386501318;KRS|gotyawallet;o/ 411722;1386505498;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 138 @ 0.00298498 = 0.4119 BTC [+] 411723;1386505620;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 27 @ 0.31287049 = 8.4475 BTC [-] {12} 411724;1386506962;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1712 @ 0.00011899 = 0.2037 BTC [+] 411725;1386507084;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1000 @ 0.00049998 = 0.5 BTC [+] 411726;1386507633;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.15249999 = 1.22 BTC [+] {2} 411727;1386508121;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 222 @ 0.00297619 = 0.6607 BTC [-] {2} 411728;1386508670;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 153 @ 0.0029 = 0.4437 BTC [-] {2} 411729;1386508853;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 48 @ 0.00297359 = 0.1427 BTC [+] 411730;1386509930;mircea_popescu;;;ticker 411731;1386509930;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 740.0, Best ask: 745.0, Bid-ask spread: 5.00000, Last trade: 745.0, 24 hour volume: 45162.82997989, 24 hour low: 653.0001, 24 hour high: 860.0, 24 hour vwap: 731.95439 411732;1386510509;mircea_popescu;so if i google sweets for my sweet result #2 is the drifters (black ppl), #3 is the searchers (white people) 411733;1386510515;mircea_popescu;ergo white man can't sweet. 411734;1386511659;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10456 @ 0.00078594 = 8.2178 BTC [+] 411735;1386513355;thestringpuller;mircea_popescu, what the heck foo? Keeping the price from reaching pluto 411736;1386513392;mircea_popescu;maybe it has no business on pluto 411737;1386513484;thestringpuller;I think there is a correlation between an exchange's life expectancy and the quality of the "businesses" it IPO's 411738;1386513488;thestringpuller;lol 411739;1386513505;thestringpuller;Based on this formula, Havelock should be shutting down any day now. 411740;1386513606;mircea_popescu;there definitely is a correlation. 411741;1386514559;pankkake;I already consider what I have left in havelock as lost 411742;1386514565;pankkake;but really, fuck all this shit 411743;1386514584;Apocalyptic;you mad pankkake . 411744;1386514588;pankkake;yes 411745;1386514601;pankkake;also headeaches don't help. but anyway, yeah :( 411746;1386514612;Apocalyptic;because of BF ? 411747;1386514633;pankkake;just a general feeling that any of these guys would scam if they could 411748;1386514654;thestringpuller;scamming doesn't pay, unless you're in your death throes 411749;1386514682;thestringpuller;even then it doesn't pay 411750;1386514695;Apocalyptic;well scammers gonna scam, that's what they do, and in bitcoinland there's a ton of them 411751;1386515061;thestringpuller;send money to firstbits 1scamyou 411752;1386515075;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 6568 @ 0.00011898 = 0.7815 BTC [-] {2} 411753;1386515165;mircea_popescu;i 411754;1386515170;mircea_popescu;'m with Apocalyptic 411755;1386515190;mircea_popescu;with freedom comes the horde of people who misunderstand what freedom is all about. 411756;1386515194;mircea_popescu;no way to fix that, really. 411757;1386515197;Apocalyptic;yeah 411758;1386515213;mircea_popescu;no good reason to care, tbh, their problem, let them fix it. 411759;1386515215;Apocalyptic;don't expect some random dude opening a bitcointalk post about his service to be legit 411760;1386515228;mircea_popescu;Apocalyptic you'd think that'd be obvious, you know ? 411761;1386515245;Apocalyptic;mircea, somehow it isn't, go figure 411762;1386515251;thestringpuller;WITH GREAT FREEDOM COMES GREAT RESPONSIBILITY 411763;1386515267;thestringpuller;or at least that's what my dead uncle told me 411764;1386515270;mircea_popescu;the cave early behaviour partially to blame. also, the first few years everyone was new by the very definition. 411765;1386515276;mircea_popescu;needed some time to create histories. 411766;1386515298;thestringpuller;start-ups don't like history 411767;1386515306;thestringpuller;because they want all the money now without providing any value 411768;1386515307;mircea_popescu;but take nanotube. he doesn't say much, but was here since before me, and he ain't scamming anyone. 411769;1386515319;mircea_popescu;thestringpuller adolescents generally don't like history. 411770;1386515326;mircea_popescu;it puts all their shortcomings in such a cruel light. 411771;1386515329;mircea_popescu;it's unfair i tell you! 411772;1386515337;thestringpuller;@_@ history is the shit 411773;1386515351;thestringpuller;it's how you know what came to be 411774;1386515368;thestringpuller;unfortunately history can be "modified" after the fact, but I think that is GPG contract's greatest assets 411775;1386515376;thestringpuller;being able to make history "truthful" 411776;1386515382;mircea_popescu;now that's an interesting way to look at it... 411777;1386515395;mircea_popescu;i guess so huh. it creates a whole new class of artifact. 411778;1386515417;mircea_popescu;pottery, stone tablets, gpg signed matter... 411779;1386515443;pankkake;it's not about issuers. yes, most of them don't care to make their investors whole 411780;1386515450;pankkake;but even the so-called investors 411781;1386515518;pankkake;pump the scam to death, praise shitty action because it profits them, etc 411782;1386515524;mircea_popescu;well inasmuch as antyone can call himself an investor... 411783;1386515546;mircea_popescu;here's an idea : if you dont have a mpex acct youre too poor to be an investor. 411784;1386515717;thestringpuller;pankkake: you can still profit on that action though even if you're a real investor 411785;1386515727;thestringpuller;i remember mircea_popescu made some 100 btc off of AM swings 411786;1386515736;thestringpuller;in a single day 411787;1386515746;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3129 BTC [+] 411788;1386515761;pankkake;of course you can. you can even profit from altcoins, so? 411789;1386515779;pankkake;btw this scammer had a mpex account https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=144622.0 411790;1386515807;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.31299499 = 0.626 BTC [+] {2} 411791;1386515868;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.31299 BTC [-] 411792;1386515940;thestringpuller;DeadTerra is a scammer now? 411793;1386515950;thestringpuller;what'd he do again? he did those passthru's but what happened? 411794;1386515984;pankkake;just being sloppy then abandonning his PTs 411795;1386515991;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.319067 = 0.9572 BTC [+] {3} 411796;1386516005;pankkake;the asicminer pt on bitfunder is still a mess 411797;1386516007;kakobrekla;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=40976 411798;1386516009;ozbot;Login 411799;1386516026;pankkake;all that trust. riiiight 411800;1386516028;pankkake;ugh 411801;1386516034;kakobrekla;see my rating 411802;1386516036;kakobrekla;:p 411803;1386516052;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.319002 BTC [-] 411804;1386516065;pankkake;I know… but I also have TAT in my trust root 411805;1386516092;thestringpuller;oh god 411806;1386516098;thestringpuller;my eyes are bleeding reading this thread 411807;1386516173;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.31299199 = 1.252 BTC [-] {4} 411808;1386516295;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.31900005 = 1.276 BTC [+] {4} 411809;1386516539;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.31298995 = 0.626 BTC [-] {2} 411810;1386516600;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.31299926 = 0.939 BTC [+] {3} 411811;1386516724;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.319001 BTC [+] 411812;1386516755;mircea_popescu;pankkake i said investor :D 411813;1386516767;mircea_popescu;and o wow, deadterra is nao a scammer ? 411814;1386516776;mircea_popescu;only mpex account holder i ever had on ignore. 411815;1386516784;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.31900605 = 1.276 BTC [+] {4} 411816;1386516905;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.312999 BTC [-] 411817;1386516913;thestringpuller;mircea_popescu: you may have an answer to this. 411818;1386516938;thestringpuller;what is the best system for public key distribution that enforces validity? 411819;1386516947;thestringpuller;given person A and person B have never met 411820;1386516962;pankkake;namecoin! 411821;1386516966;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.3129663 = 0.9389 BTC [-] {3} 411822;1386516971;thestringpuller;@_@ 411823;1386517088;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.31900779 = 1.276 BTC [+] {4} 411824;1386517096;thestringpuller;can you really trust keyservers mr. pankkake ? 411825;1386517112;mircea_popescu;thestringpuller the system i now use works on the assumption either A or B are famous. 411826;1386517126;pankkake;well you should only trust the *fingerprint*, no matter how the key is distributed 411827;1386517129;mircea_popescu;i publish my key. now you know it is in fact mine. you send me yours. now i know it's yours. 411828;1386517142;pankkake;beware that the small fingerprint you often see can have collisions 411829;1386517151;thestringpuller;hmmmm 411830;1386517156;mircea_popescu;pankkake that's the keyid. 411831;1386517161;mircea_popescu;the fingerprint is the whole thing. 411832;1386517182;thestringpuller;i would assume that the keyservers WoT uses will eventually encompass the bitcoin community that matters no? 411833;1386517198;thestringpuller;thus as long as the keyserver isn't compromised you can trust the key distribution? 411834;1386517200;pankkake;it's the first characters of the fingerprint or something? anyway, it shouldn't be relied on, but sadly it is 411835;1386517205;mircea_popescu;that eventually is misplaced. it originally was the case, back in 2011. 411836;1386517223;mircea_popescu;then as various ignorant noobs got added that figure they "know shit" and "have businesses" and so on... 411837;1386517259;mircea_popescu;easiest test in the book. you're not in the wot, you're not to be taken seriously. 5000 reddit votes notwithstanding. 411838;1386517273;mircea_popescu;pankkake afaik it's the last. 411839;1386517350;mircea_popescu;j'ai formater mon disque dure et j'ai perdu ma wallet et j'ai que la cl. est ce que je peut recuperer mon bitcoin a partir de la cl 411840;1386517352;mircea_popescu;bwaghag 411841;1386517355;mircea_popescu;o lordy. 411842;1386517390;pankkake;I usually say that the only way people learn to backup is by painful experience (like I did :|) 411843;1386517399;pankkake;bitcoin is going to make it even more painful 411844;1386517507;pankkake;hehe "unfortunately the activity in the Securities section lately seems to be dominated primarily by one of two things: 1) people trying to recover funds from an old "investment" that was poorly managed or an outright scam, or 2) people trying to attract funds for a new "investment" that is poorly managed or an outright scam" 411845;1386517556;mircea_popescu;and 3. mpoe-pr going "see here", "fuck you" and "retard" 411846;1386517611;pankkake;I read again the https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=106391.0 and it made much more sense 411847;1386517634;mircea_popescu;lessstupid.net 411848;1386517667;mircea_popescu;to quote my good friend pankkake, he said : "the only way people learn to backup is by painful experience" 411849;1386517759;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 10 @ 0.04853004 = 0.4853 BTC [-] {5} 411850;1386518247;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.32038333 = 3.8446 BTC [+] {4} 411851;1386518303;thestringpuller;http://www.coinion.com/2013/12/07/employee-asks-to-be-paid-in-bitcoins-buys-company-the-next-day/ 411852;1386518312;mircea_popescu;hahaha cool. 411853;1386518315;mircea_popescu;who runs coinonion ? 411854;1386518347;pankkake;The United States dollar, a real-life currency created by a group of revolutionaries after overthrowing the local authorities in North America, has almost doubled in value over the last 24 hours. 411855;1386518395;mircea_popescu;:D 411856;1386518404;pankkake;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=354054.0 411857;1386518406;ozbot;Introducing: The Coinion, Bitcoin's Finest News Source Onion-clone for Bitcoin 411858;1386518473;thestringpuller;good stuff 411859;1386518520;mircea_popescu;pankkake https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=354054.msg3878420#msg3878420 411860;1386518530;mircea_popescu;dun dun dun 411861;1386518544;pankkake;nice 411862;1386518566;mircea_popescu;i wonder how many people realise that is actually MORE than what the average senior editor of fortune.com is paid on a per-article basis. 411863;1386518600;pankkake;depend on how much a 2015 bitcoin is worth 411864;1386518603;thestringpuller;fortune.com has an editor? 411865;1386518695;mircea_popescu;pankkake i meant today. 411866;1386519406;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 30 @ 0.02716001 = 0.8148 BTC [-] {8} 411867;1386519528;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.02700001 = 0.135 BTC [-] {2} 411868;1386519650;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.1525 = 0.915 BTC [+] 411869;1386519663;thestringpuller;;;seen jurov 411870;1386519663;gribble;jurov was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 hours, 13 minutes, and 56 seconds ago: http://megiontechnologies.com/career.html multicultural team ftw 411871;1386519784;jurov;*rubs eyes* who keeps bothering me? 411872;1386519859;mircea_popescu;lol gmornin 411873;1386519938;jurov;mornin 411874;1386520045;jurov;$avg 411875;1386520046;mpexbot;jurov: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. 411876;1386520089;mircea_popescu;i wonder if smickles reads his gribble later tells. 411877;1386520179;mircea_popescu;to state it for the record : i will never read a pdf "financial report" of something trying to call itself a bitcoin public company. 411878;1386520201;mircea_popescu;if you're publishing pdf reportsa that means that 1. you're not part of bitcoin finance and 2. the most you will get is ridicule. 411879;1386520282;Apocalyptic;mircea_popescu, what's so wrong with pdfs ? except the obvious potential security issues 411880;1386520286;pankkake;meh 411881;1386520334;pankkake;there are bigger fish to fry 411882;1386520353;pankkake;at least it's a report, beats 99% of securities 411883;1386520409;pankkake;the French say "there are other cats to flog", much better 411884;1386520497;nubbins`;heh 411885;1386520508;jurov;thestringpuller pm 411886;1386520509;mircea_popescu;except ?! 411887;1386520527;nubbins`;d'autres chats! 411888;1386520530;mircea_popescu;pankkake it's a good idea to get people used to doing the right thing early. 411889;1386520551;mircea_popescu;this is a huge fish to skin, in that it costs nothing to establish correct precedent, and it'll be perfectly imossible to fix once a microsoft exists 411890;1386520565;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 3 @ 0.15333333 = 0.46 BTC [-] {3} 411891;1386520569;mircea_popescu;so please, for the love of your own future and for the love of the future of your kids and the young women you fuck and will probably survive you : 411892;1386520574;mircea_popescu;do not motherfucking read pdf "reports". 411893;1386520581;mircea_popescu;they ain't reports, they're stupidorts. 411894;1386520641;nubbins`;even if they have two-inch margins on all sides? 411895;1386520715;mircea_popescu;even if. 411896;1386520853;mircea_popescu;and the same princuople goes to the "devteam" retards implememnting pki 411897;1386520856;mircea_popescu;since we're on the topic. 411898;1386520860;jurov;send niggers.txt instead 411899;1386520878;Apocalyptic;:) 411900;1386521049;mircea_popescu;totally. 411901;1386521119;nubbins`;https://onlycoin.com/ 411902;1386521129;nubbins`;interesting idea, no chip+PIN support and therefore useless 411903;1386521243;mircea_popescu;"as seen on" is the mark of failure i've noticed. 411904;1386521256;nubbins`;also gotta say i fucking hate this new "endless scroll" type of website 411905;1386521273;nubbins`;"features don't impress you? how about the new york times logo?" 411906;1386521290;mircea_popescu;at least some idiots got the "coin" name, that's a relief. 411907;1386521301;nubbins`;heh 411908;1386521319;nubbins`;"all your cards. one coin. unless you live outside of the usa, in which case none of your cards." 411909;1386521420;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 18 @ 0.02700001 = 0.486 BTC [+] {3} 411910;1386521480;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 30 @ 0.027 = 0.81 BTC [-] 411911;1386521508;Apocalyptic;man I love arch, such a neat distro 411912;1386521515;thestringpuller;are we talking about that coin card 411913;1386521518;thestringpuller;which is a joke 411914;1386521529;Apocalyptic;doesn't come with all the useless shit you'll never use anyway like in debian 411915;1386521532;thestringpuller;all the "Computer Scientist" are raving about 411916;1386521541;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 0.14 = 0.28 BTC [-] 411917;1386521542;mircea_popescu;thestringpuller right. 411918;1386521551;mircea_popescu;that's the other mark of failure. 411919;1386521565;nubbins`;truth sauce 411920;1386521567;nubbins`;i mean 411921;1386521573;nubbins`;i'm a "computer scientist" 411922;1386521577;nubbins`;wtf do i know about anything? 411923;1386521770;mircea_popescu;you read wired religiously. 411924;1386521890;pankkake;Apocalyptic: http://repository.headfucking.net/Images/Nerdy/distros.png http://repository.headfucking.net/Images/Nerdy/archlinux.png (though I do like Arch, the devs clearly aren't as good as Gentoo's) 411925;1386521922;thestringpuller;Gentoo takes too long to install shit on slow computers due to compile source at installation time 411926;1386521941;pankkake;I know :/ I still run it on a Celeron 500 MHz 411927;1386521945;thestringpuller;lololol 411928;1386521948;thestringpuller;that must be painful 411929;1386521956;thestringpuller;emerge links2 411930;1386521959;thestringpuller;30 minutes remaining 411931;1386521978;pankkake;well it doesn't have many packages and enabled features thankfully :) 411932;1386522184;Apocalyptic;thestringpuller, you do compile from source on arch too 411933;1386522198;thestringpuller;oh really? 411934;1386522209;thestringpuller;i thought pacman just brought in newest packages, and those were compiled remote 411935;1386522224;thestringpuller;i haven't used arch just gentoo so I don't know 411936;1386522246;pankkake;there is the AUR, which is basically user-contributed builds 411937;1386522268;pankkake;but for obvious security reasons they aren't allowed to distribute the binaries, only the build instructions 411938;1386522318;pankkake;it's a good idea, though the quality isn't always there ;) 411939;1386522348;mircea_popescu;has anyone so far tried to sneak malware in through ascii build ionstructions ? 411940;1386522418;pankkake;build instructions in documentation, or in scripts? I'm sure most people don't check the build scripts, even from untrusted sources 411941;1386522425;mircea_popescu;heh. 411942;1386522475;pankkake;ubuntu PPA look like they're built the right way, user uploads source, but trusted third party builds 411943;1386522517;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5550 @ 0.00078742 = 4.3702 BTC [+] 411944;1386522518;pankkake;there's http://gitian.org/ too 411945;1386522536;thestringpuller;doesn't ppa require you to sign the package? 411946;1386522554;thestringpuller;the third party that is 411947;1386522575;pankkake;the source package maybe? and then they sign the binary? this is just guesses, I never did it 411948;1386522669;mircea_popescu;uyah ubuntu had the right idea there. 411949;1386523006;thestringpuller;http://online.wsj.com/news/article_email/SB10001424052702304096104579240213383697076-lMyQjAxMTAzMDAwODEwNDgyWj - wow 411950;1386523009;thestringpuller;just 411951;1386523012;thestringpuller;wow 411952;1386523066;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 684 @ 0.002956 = 2.0219 BTC [+] {2} 411953;1386523079;Apocalyptic;"world's finest financial writers" // read our senior editors who have no clue 411954;1386523099;pankkake;also, that "tulip mania" thing is probably a myth 411955;1386523109;pankkake;there's only one source ever, no trace of actual losses 411956;1386523183;pankkake;http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/weblog/comments/tulipmania 411957;1386523184;ozbot;How much of the legend of the 17th-Century tulipmania is true? 411958;1386523235;thestringpuller;I write better than this for papers due in school and still get points marked off, yet this gets through the editors? 411959;1386523243;thestringpuller;i don't want to live in this country anymore 411960;1386523249;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1805 @ 0.00296756 = 5.3564 BTC [+] {5} 411961;1386523273;kakobrekla;thats not a matter of country. 411962;1386523285;pankkake;it's the same everywhere. it's the planet 411963;1386523293;mircea_popescu;pankkake nah, it wasn't a myth 411964;1386523293;kakobrekla;id bet its the universe 411965;1386523297;pankkake;let's go te the moon together 411966;1386523310;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 102 @ 0.00298497 = 0.3045 BTC [+] {2} 411967;1386523318;mircea_popescu;and there are traces. for instance the aggrivied merchants petitioned the court to rule on whether people who bought on promise are liable for the value promised or for the value actual 411968;1386523322;mircea_popescu;the court ruled fuck you. 411969;1386523359;pankkake;they didn't invent bailouts yet? 411970;1386523365;mircea_popescu;anyway, the bs is funny. "none of the obsolete people have any idea of why exactly it is they're obsolete" 411971;1386523371;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1217 @ 0.00298611 = 3.6341 BTC [+] {5} 411972;1386523374;mircea_popescu;well fucking duh with pink fringe and a lemon slice on top 411973;1386523379;mircea_popescu;if they did have a clue they would be here. 411974;1386523393;mircea_popescu;pankkake no, at the time freedom was a living thing. 411975;1386523472;pankkake;I'm not that convinced Bitcoin Is The Future. actually, the feeling that is was dominated by 15-year-old gamers with GPUs made me stay away for long (well, I'd be rich if I didn't) 411976;1386523488;pankkake;but everything that was almost-working is failing 411977;1386523546;mircea_popescu;it's the future alright. 411978;1386523623;Apocalyptic;I think we agree on that 411979;1386523625;pankkake;I have no doubts that fiat is dead/dying. just doubts about bitcoin surviving it 411980;1386523708;pankkake;well, the best would be that I try to build something interesting around bitcoin instead of lamenting :) 411981;1386523764;mircea_popescu;:p 411982;1386523831;Apocalyptic;go for it pankkake ! 411983;1386524408;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.003 = 3 BTC [+] {3} 411984;1386524469;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 52 @ 0.003 = 0.156 BTC [+] 411985;1386524591;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 105 @ 0.003 = 0.315 BTC [+] {3} 411986;1386524774;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 42 @ 0.003 = 0.126 BTC [+] 411987;1386524896;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00078742 = 4.0946 BTC [+] 411988;1386525538;Apocalyptic;mircea_popescu, what are your thoughts about protoshares ? 411989;1386525967;thestringpuller;Jun 2016: today Ben Bernanke addressed congress, "I have been replaced by a computer network, and am unfortunatley obsolete. I have no idea how this happened but I reccommend the US switch the Bitcoin standard." 411990;1386525997;KRS1;haha 411991;1386525997;kakobrekla;the next moment btc crashes 411992;1386526008;nubbins`;lel 411993;1386526099;pankkake;http://fakevalley.com/greenspans-bitcoin-comment-triggers-an-algo-trading-frenzy/ 411994;1386526100;ozbot;Bitcoin Enthusiasts Thrilled After Greenspan Calls Bitcoin A 'Bubble' - FakeValley 411995;1386526118;pankkake;love the "I go all-in on anything he calls a bubble" 411996;1386526183;KRS1;Chatter everywhere says they've tracked down the elusive fontas. Here is a picture of him: http://www.strangefunkidz.com/images/content/117901.jpg 411997;1386526232;pankkake;the best haircut altcoins can buy 411998;1386526292;KRS1;seren1ty: Fontas punched my wife in the face last night. This morning she pooped bitcoins. 411999;1386526970;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [7C] 30 @ 0.0077 = 0.231 BTC 412000;1386527031;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.0029995 = 2.9995 BTC [-] 412001;1386527702;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1500 @ 0.00299991 = 4.4999 BTC [-] 412002;1386528029;mircea_popescu;Apocalyptic nothing good, but too soon to be definite. 412003;1386528076;mircea_popescu;i thought fontas was usagi's otherkin 412004;1386528108;thestringpuller;usagi is using a new moniker now? 412005;1386528127;thestringpuller;he still owes me 15 btc 412006;1386528133;thestringpuller;not like he could ever payt hat 412007;1386528134;Apocalyptic;what is usagi remembered for these days , 412008;1386528142;thestringpuller;insurance fraud 412009;1386528144;thestringpuller;mining fraud 412010;1386528147;thestringpuller;fake silver 412011;1386528149;thestringpuller;lol 412012;1386528168;pankkake;fake silver? :o 412013;1386528183;thestringpuller;jk, that was me trolling, but he ran a btc->silver fund 412014;1386528318;thestringpuller;I'm in the middle of processing TU.SILVER holders right now, in fact I just handled a 10 oz and a 40oz redemption (the 40 is shipping out today if the post office is open). No one's silver is missing. 412015;1386528322;thestringpuller;Just send me a message signed with your public withdrawal address and I'll get back to you. As you can imagine going to the post office 40 or 50 times is a little time consuming with everything else I have to do. Thx ^^ 412016;1386528345;thestringpuller;or you know you could just cash settle the shares by you know liquidating the silver into BTC 412017;1386528349;thestringpuller;but who am I to judge 412018;1386528423;pankkake;I like the idea of silver or gold funds, but they don't seem to last long 412019;1386528434;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 109 @ 0.00299991 = 0.327 BTC [-] 412020;1386528444;thestringpuller;whatever happened to coinabul? 412021;1386528520;jurov;thestringpuller afaik there were problems caused by exchange rate fluctuations and undelivered packages 412022;1386529105;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 4510 @ 0.00049997 = 2.2549 BTC [+] {5} 412023;1386529190;thestringpuller;i need a gucci hoodie 412024;1386529203;thestringpuller;someone hook me up with a gucci hoodie 412025;1386529504;Kleeck;.d 412026;1386529504;ozbot;707408283.05150 | Next Diff in 353 blocks | Estimated Change: 26.7046% in 1d 18h 58m 48s 412027;1386529715;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.00299908 = 2.9991 BTC [-] {6} 412028;1386530628;thestringpuller;;;seen jurov 412029;1386530628;gribble;jurov was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 35 minutes and 7 seconds ago: thestringpuller afaik there were problems caused by exchange rate fluctuations and undelivered packages 412030;1386530685;mircea_popescu;pankkake usagi ran a nest of lolcompanies in 2012, 412031;1386530701;pankkake;yeah I saw that 412032;1386530704;mircea_popescu;they kept selling insurance policies to one another and then foregoing on collecting and all sorts of nutty accounting schemes 412033;1386530719;mircea_popescu;it was a texbook example of, give a kitten a computer, it's going to take a nap on it 412034;1386531144;pankkake;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=289730.msg3880810#msg3880810 mother of gods 412035;1386531145;ozbot;[IPVO] [Multiple Exchanges] Neo & Bee - LMB Holdings 412036;1386531165;mircea_popescu;lol 412037;1386531166;mircea_popescu;ty 412038;1386531301;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.0268608 = 0.1343 BTC [-] {2} 412039;1386531362;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 44 @ 0.00301 = 0.1324 BTC [+] 412040;1386532177;mircea_popescu;so i just took a bite out of a usb stick 412041;1386532186;mircea_popescu;because i had some chocklate on my table and i reached for it w/o looking 412042;1386532194;jcpham;it usually takes me 3 tries to plug in usb 412043;1386532218;mircea_popescu;oddly enough, into the mouth it plugs on the 1st try 412044;1386532225;jcpham;i bet 412045;1386532273;mircea_popescu;they sjould make these things sturdier thno 412046;1386532277;mircea_popescu;i fucking bent it 412047;1386532300;jcpham;all of mine ar just bare pcb's 412048;1386532307;jcpham;the plastic case always breask 412049;1386533192;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [7C] 25 @ 0.0077 = 0.1925 BTC 412050;1386533383;thestringpuller;lol on of my buddies just made a storyboard for a nice intro to gpg video 412051;1386533399;thestringpuller;that states "If you want to enter the crypto currency game, you need to use crypto!" 412052;1386533605;mircea_popescu;win. 412053;1386533686;pankkake;mircea_popescu: you might like https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=358820.msg3874939#msg3874939 412054;1386533716;pankkake;but doing this (risking money just to disprove random guys) tells me it's time to step away from the computer 412055;1386533800;mircea_popescu;you know how patrick harnett got sunk right ? 412056;1386533813;pankkake;don't know who that is at all 412057;1386533829;mircea_popescu;a! 412058;1386533848;mircea_popescu;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=121915.0 412059;1386533850;ozbot;Scammer tag: PatrickHarnett 412060;1386533894;mircea_popescu;so i guess i'm at least 500 btc ahead of you in that game 412061;1386533902;pankkake;:o 412062;1386533909;mircea_popescu;i ain't steppin' away, i'm steppin ON. 412063;1386534027;thestringpuller;Patrick Harnett is still playing banker?!?!? 412064;1386534047;mircea_popescu;nah, but pankkake is starting down the glorious path of "here's 0.1 btc says you're fulla shit" 412065;1386534061;mircea_popescu;which, incidentally, is why god created money in the first place. 412066;1386534102;thestringpuller;that is how you busted open his scam though 412067;1386534114;pankkake;actually I linked for the replies 412068;1386534135;pankkake;why god created money? so you're satoshi? 412069;1386534229;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.15 BTC [-] 412070;1386534249;thestringpuller;did you ever get any of that deposit back btw mircea_popescu ? 412071;1386534271;mircea_popescu;no. 412072;1386534285;thestringpuller;man woe is the days of 2012 412073;1386534292;mircea_popescu;the guy, of course, claims he has been making payments, except, of course, to meanies such as me, who wouldn't lie about how he defaulted in the first place. 412074;1386534301;thestringpuller;;;gettrust PatrickHarnett 412075;1386534301;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user PatrickHarnett: Level 1: 0, Level 2: -4 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=thestringpuller&dest=PatrickHarnett | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=PatrickHarnett | Rated since: Tue Mar 6 17:02:32 2012 412076;1386534306;thestringpuller;lol 412077;1386534327;mircea_popescu;which, incidentally, is pretty much the oldest trick in the scambook, try and stack the incentives so that people won't report. 412078;1386534400;thestringpuller;i wonder what these "bankers" thought they would invest in... 412079;1386534410;thestringpuller;it feels like people were taking loans to pay loans to pay loans 412080;1386534424;mircea_popescu;aka pulling yourself out of the shit by your breeches 412081;1386534425;pankkake;isn't it what people do in the fiat world? 412082;1386534442;thestringpuller;in the fiat world people take insurance out on a loan default 412083;1386534447;thestringpuller;then bribe the loanee to repay the loan late 412084;1386534456;mircea_popescu;lol 412085;1386534459;thestringpuller;aka burning down the bar for the insurance money 412086;1386534479;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/a-simple-example-as-to-why-fiat-institutions-cant-stand/#comment-96662 << this is proceeding nicely. 412087;1386534480;ozbot;A simple example as to why fiat institutions can’t stand pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 412088;1386534597;mircea_popescu;so i got this very dry supposed horse salamy from this weird neoprotestant group that's trying to start a sort of crafts convent 412089;1386534604;mircea_popescu;this shit is so good i'm getting suspicious 412090;1386534724;thestringpuller;i think one benefit of GPG contracts in the long run is as bitcoin ages, the barrier of entry into WoT becomes much higher 412091;1386534734;pankkake;I wouldn't trust any romanian food 412092;1386534754;truffles;lol 412093;1386534773;pankkake;well I suppose to enter the WoT you'd need older people to vouch you, and to risk a bit of their reputation 412094;1386534793;Apocalyptic; this shit is so good i'm getting suspicious // horse salamy from Hungaria is the best 412095;1386534832;truffles;horse, the next red meat? 412096;1386534847;mircea_popescu;pankkake you kidding ? romanian food > french food. 412097;1386534853;truffles;0.0 412098;1386534864;mircea_popescu;i kid you not. 412099;1386534891;thestringpuller;pankkake: exactly, that means 1) you know someone who is reputable IRL and get rated accordingly based on business doings there, or 2) you start from the bottom which will get lower and lower 412100;1386534900;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 175 @ 0.00301 = 0.5268 BTC [+] 412101;1386534901;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00078841 = 2.3652 BTC [+] {2} 412102;1386534916;thestringpuller;all scammers seem to do is make the distance between the bottom of the barrel and the truly trustworthy larger to traverse 412103;1386534966;truffles;chicken breast schnitzel doesnt sound like Romanian origins 412104;1386534968;pigeons;hores salamy is people 412105;1386534980;pankkake;mircea_popescu: http://www.france24.com/en/20130209-findus-horsemeat-ready-meals-lasagne-food-scare-europe-contamination-uk-france-sweden 412106;1386534980;pankkake;not that I would ever eat anything from Findus 412107;1386534998;mircea_popescu;which is a valuable public service. 412108;1386535000;thestringpuller;but alas there will always be n00bs killed by the woodchipper 412109;1386535002;truffles;saami .. 412110;1386535007;nubbins`;horse is big in quebec 412111;1386535011;thestringpuller;;;google site:trilema.com the woodchipper 412112;1386535011;gribble;The story of Pointless and Witless pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: 412113;1386535014;nubbins`;can't buy it elsewhere in canada tho 412114;1386535019;nubbins`;i'm curious to know how it tastes 412115;1386535034;nubbins`;well. i shouldn't say you "can't buy" it 412116;1386535040;nubbins`;it's just never available for sale 412117;1386535115;mircea_popescu;truffles not a matter of origins or w/e, i'm just saying, i give you and a romanian chick 100 euros each, whoever makes the best platter wins. 412118;1386535128;mircea_popescu;pigeons lmao 412119;1386535145;truffles;taste depends on preference 412120;1386535160;mircea_popescu;got me there. 412121;1386535169;mircea_popescu;some people for instance have no taste. 412122;1386535200;pigeons;;) 412123;1386535243;truffles;http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474977234665 that looks good at least 412124;1386535246;ozbot;Romanian Food For Supper (recipes included) | Gather 412125;1386535309;davout;did someone start a french vs. romanian food trell ? 412126;1386535325;truffles;think so 412127;1386535334;truffles;french win with just desserts imo 412128;1386535375;davout;french win, there isn't much more to say, romanian food is pretty good though! 412129;1386535404;davout;pankkake: all the jokes including horse meat and romanians were already made on this thread around a year ago or sthg like that 412130;1386535413;davout;s/thread/chan/ 412131;1386535435;pankkake;I figured… and I probably did it once already too :/ 412132;1386535443;pankkake;French cuisine is quite generic, south west and south east are already quite different 412133;1386535490;truffles;orly 412134;1386535602;truffles;http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/61233877.jpg guess they aim for the weird 412135;1386535605;mircea_popescu;davout for some values of someone 412136;1386535639;mircea_popescu;but anyway! romanian > french, strictly because the french agriculture died in the 60s 412137;1386535659;mircea_popescu;romania is still there. i can go to a peasant house and buy a "hand"smoked ham, or raw milk. it'd be half a mile away 412138;1386535675;Apocalyptic;that's awesome 412139;1386535695;mircea_popescu;you *can* get stuff of comparable quality in france, too 412140;1386535699;pankkake;do they take bitcoins? 412141;1386535701;mircea_popescu;it's just a lot more of a hassle and way more expensive. 412142;1386535704;mircea_popescu;no, they don't. 412143;1386535719;pankkake;oh, so you won't survive the global collapse anyway 412144;1386535736;mircea_popescu;yes, i will, because i will fuck their daughters and to appease me they will bring me cheese 412145;1386535740;truffles;uh dunno what agriculture has to do with who cooks best.. 412146;1386535742;mircea_popescu;and all manners of leberwurst 412147;1386535760;mircea_popescu;truffles you can't be serious. where do you think food comes from. 412148;1386535770;truffles;... 412149;1386535773;davout;mircea_popescu: i am interested in this leberwurst you speak of 412150;1386535830;davout;also as a matter of fact i bring my kid drink raw milk directly from the cow, as in, it's not hard to go on a farm :-) 412151;1386535837;davout;it might be easier in romania tho 412152;1386535844;truffles;dunno why the products would be different when comparing, if so dont c why its a problem to obtain 412153;1386535959;mircea_popescu;well you know what it is neh ? 412154;1386535981;mircea_popescu;davout we have little automated things here, you insert 3 lei and get a liter. 412155;1386536083;truffles;http://www.sausagemaking.org/acatalog/blood.jpg that looks yum doesnt it 412156;1386536283;jurov;yup it is 412157;1386536329;nubbins`;raw milk 412158;1386536331;nubbins`;one sec 412159;1386536360;nubbins`;http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-farmer-guilty-of-selling-raw-milk-1.989663 412160;1386536361;ozbot;Ontario farmer guilty of selling raw milk - Toronto - CBC News 412161;1386536394;pankkake;I thought this was only banned in US 412162;1386536405;truffles;canada is practically US 412163;1386536417;truffles;is it the head or the rear.. 412164;1386536423;davout;mircea_popescu: that is cool 412165;1386536425;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] [PAID] 2.31293253 BTC to 9`573 shares, 24161 satoshi per share 412166;1386536428;nubbins`;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Schmidt_(agriculture) 412167;1386536429;ozbot;Michael Schmidt (agriculture) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 412168;1386536437;nubbins`;ARMED COPS 412169;1386536440;nubbins`;raided his farm 412170;1386536508;dub;all cops are armed tho rite? 412171;1386536539;dub;are they going to leave their guns behind for this one job? 412172;1386536540;truffles;saw video of canadian cops shooting kid on bus.. 412173;1386536545;davout;mircea_popescu: http://i.imgur.com/rAeUz3g.png <<< further questions? 412174;1386536554;mircea_popescu;dub not rly. at least here. 412175;1386536575;mircea_popescu;davout well... it's not a farm you know what i mean ? 412176;1386536581;dub;yeah, not armed here either but in ameristan 412177;1386536583;truffles;nubbins` what happened to canada! 412178;1386536585;mircea_popescu;cool and good for the kid and everything, but that cow aint happy there. 412179;1386536625;nubbins`;truffles: conservative government 412180;1386536627;davout;mircea_popescu: it's just milking time, maybe you're referring to the really old-school ones where everything's done by hand ? 412181;1386536636;mircea_popescu;show me one where a girl with nice tits and no bra, red in her cheeks, just hand milked the cow in a bucket. 412182;1386536641;mircea_popescu;yeah 412183;1386536645;davout;haha 412184;1386536669;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 54 @ 0.04153159 = 2.2427 BTC [-] {7} 412185;1386536683;davout;does it *have* to be a cow milked in the bucket? 412186;1386536699;nubbins`;whale milk is like 50% fat 412187;1386536703;mircea_popescu;jus' sayin'. you're already doing pretty good. 412188;1386536707;nubbins`;zoos are missing out 412189;1386536712;nubbins`;imagine the cheese! 412190;1386536730;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 325 @ 0.003 = 0.975 BTC [-] 412191;1386536734;nubbins`;not sure what taste a plankton diet would put on it tho 412192;1386536764;dub;so there are food safety standards for a reason 412193;1386536781;mircea_popescu;algae, same thing as grass. 412194;1386536781;mircea_popescu;prolly sushi flavoured cheese. 412195;1386536784;truffles;so why's raw milk bad 412196;1386536790;dub;not to rain on a libertarian indignity parade but you can't just sell people shit that might kill them 412197;1386536791;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 170 @ 0.00232726 = 0.3956 BTC [-] {11} 412198;1386536852;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 300 @ 0.003 = 0.9 BTC [-] 412199;1386536858;nubbins`;truffles: it's not. 412200;1386536865;dub;it can be 412201;1386536866;nubbins`;in the sense that raw beef isn't bad 412202;1386536873;nubbins`;but dub has it 412203;1386536876;mircea_popescu;dub everything might kill you. 412204;1386536877;nubbins`;it *can be* bad 412205;1386536883;nubbins`;and so therefore 412206;1386536885;nubbins`;it is banned 412207;1386536899;nubbins`;tyvm o milky overlords 412208;1386536900;truffles;something to do with what they feed em like mad cow? 412209;1386536901;mircea_popescu;in principle, people should be responsible for what they do. 412210;1386536904;jurov;wtf? they normally sell raw milk here from a machines, with warning you should cook it 412211;1386536911;mircea_popescu;jurov yeah. 412212;1386536919;nubbins`;jurov warnings are so european 412213;1386536930;mircea_popescu;im pretty sure it's the same principle, as this italian company begun merchandising its machinery to farmers all over. 412214;1386536931;nubbins`;the new world prefers legislation 412215;1386536931;dub;yeah you can't just warn peopl ein murica 412216;1386536949;mircea_popescu;dub it's not even prominent a warning 412217;1386536953;mircea_popescu;you could easily miss it. 412218;1386536965;jurov;http://www.pluska.sk/fotogaleria-zdravie/?foto=&clanok=288180 412219;1386536973;jurov;the warnig is there in red 412220;1386536979;mircea_popescu;yup. 412221;1386536988;mircea_popescu;that's the machine. 412222;1386537010;dub;thats not suitable at all 412223;1386537020;dub;a) it requires the ability to read 412224;1386537031;nubbins`;okay so seriously tho 412225;1386537032;mircea_popescu;it should be written IN THE MILK 412226;1386537033;truffles;what if u make it for just ur family dub? 412227;1386537034;nubbins`;horse salami 412228;1386537038;nubbins`;is this dry salami? 412229;1386537042;nubbins`;like will it keep? 412230;1386537043;dub;truffles: thats fine 412231;1386537045;mircea_popescu;it usually is dry yes 412232;1386537056;mircea_popescu;you can have it wet too, in pepper usually. 412233;1386537056;nubbins`;i'm curious to try some 412234;1386537061;dub;b) the mobility scooter access is in question 412235;1386537081;mircea_popescu;dub lazymobile ? 412236;1386537084;nubbins`;i've been on a big tube-meat kick lately 412237;1386537092;nubbins`;but kolbasa is so pricey 412238;1386537113;truffles;since we're on safety, what about Bisphenol A ! 412239;1386537123;nubbins`;truffles: banned in canada 412240;1386537126;nubbins`;er wait no 412241;1386537128;nubbins`;not banned 412242;1386537136;nubbins`;but health canada sez it's a carcinogen 412243;1386537143;dub;theres also the thing about how your gut gets used to the shit you put it through 412244;1386537145;truffles;then it wouldve been banned in US too :p 412245;1386537155;nubbins`;receipts are still coated in it, but you can't find drink containers made of it anymore 412246;1386537175;nubbins`;dub, this is why montezuma's revenge only targets whitey 412247;1386537210;nubbins`;heh 412248;1386537215;nubbins`;hmmm 412249;1386537225;nubbins`;i wonder could i reasonably make salami 412250;1386537234;nubbins`;i've got a huge chunk of moose in the freezer 412251;1386537281;nubbins`;not personally 412252;1386537291;nubbins`;i have some connections tho 412253;1386537298;truffles;this will suck if BPA is in my alcohol :( 412254;1386537314;nubbins`;^ argument for glass 412255;1386537334;nubbins`;ok supper time, seeya later 412256;1386537340;truffles;later 412257;1386537341;nubbins`;will have more questions about horse salami 412258;1386537343;nubbins`;peace 412259;1386537409;mircea_popescu;good salami is hard to make. 412260;1386538072;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 150 @ 0.003 = 0.45 BTC [-] 412261;1386539984;mike_c;mircea_popescu, s.nsa november statement coming soon? i'm curious to see how much r&d cost. 412262;1386540112;mircea_popescu;yeah. no charges in nov either. 412263;1386540130;mike_c;ah, nice. a good month to not spend btc :) 412264;1386540135;mircea_popescu;which explains how it fell through the cracks ;/ 412265;1386540139;mircea_popescu;ima have it published today. 412266;1386540148;jurov;you were bickering about rng whole month? 412267;1386540155;jurov;:D 412268;1386540158;wao-ender;heh 412269;1386540182;mircea_popescu;jurov no, but asciilifeform is also independently wealthy, and in an uncharacteristic fashion for btc enterprises we're not charging before stuff actually works. 412270;1386540200;mircea_popescu;best possible deal for investors i guess. 412271;1386540318;jurov;wao-ender: who is gonna to forward this convo to slush&stick? 412272;1386540338;jurov;i like to ruffle their feathers 412273;1386540351;truffles;truffle their feathers :D 412274;1386540355;wao-ender;:D 412275;1386540360;wao-ender;at thursday I was talking irl to their casing vendor 412276;1386540367;wao-ender;he is not that.. smiley as they are 412277;1386540370;wao-ender;:D 412278;1386540379;wao-ender;#uaskweleak 412279;1386540445;mircea_popescu;mind that im not saying this is how all corps should do or anything 412280;1386540556;jurov;mkay, i'll just remind them to never publish pdf statements 412281;1386540594;jurov;cuz it's unbitcoinish 412282;1386540594;Apocalyptic;nigga.txt would do 412283;1386540655;pankkake;they'll publish .xlsx statements 412284;1386540655;pankkake;or .swf! 412285;1386540655;pankkake;punch the monkey to see our financials 412286;1386540756;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 225 @ 0.003 = 0.675 BTC [-] 412287;1386540999;mircea_popescu;yeah, make it activex 412288;1386541030;pankkake;make every S.MG financial a quest 412289;1386541045;mircea_popescu;epic quest, only 1 per server. 412290;1386541183;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.32294833 = 2.5836 BTC [+] {4} 412291;1386541549;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.1066666 = 0.32 BTC [+] {2} 412292;1386541610;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 7 @ 0.1151 = 0.8057 BTC [+] {2} 412293;1386541671;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 17 @ 0.1163 = 1.9771 BTC [+] 412294;1386542525;assbot;[MPEX] [S.NSA] 1200 @ 0.00012 = 0.144 BTC [-] 412295;1386543867;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 70 @ 0.33763581 = 23.6345 BTC [+] {18} 412296;1386544294;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.15 = 0.3 BTC [-] 412297;1386545514;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00080304 = 2.1682 BTC [+] 412298;1386545769;nubbins`;.xlsx is preferable because an old version of excel won't open it 412299;1386546612;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 648 @ 0.00301719 = 1.9551 BTC [+] {3} 412300;1386546673;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2401 @ 0.00302557 = 7.2644 BTC [+] {4} 412301;1386546734;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 21 @ 0.02660409 = 0.5587 BTC [-] {3} 412302;1386546795;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.0031 = 1.55 BTC [+] 412303;1386546917;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 350 @ 0.00322012 = 1.127 BTC [+] {6} 412304;1386546919;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.32666665 = 0.98 BTC [-] {3} 412305;1386546978;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 414 @ 0.00328529 = 1.3601 BTC [+] {4} 412306;1386546979;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 67 @ 0.00324646 = 0.2175 BTC [+] {4} 412307;1386547111;pankkake;YES 412308;1386547118;pankkake;I no longer have neobees 412309;1386547161;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 415 @ 0.00333 = 1.382 BTC [-] 412310;1386547951;thestringpuller;is there a neobee bubble forming? 412311;1386548449;pankkake;well you can still buy them at 0.003 if you're willing to wait for https://www.lmb-holdings.com/ 412312;1386548477;mircea_popescu;pankkake did you book a profit ? 412313;1386548509;pankkake;just sold above havelock trade fee, so no profit, no loss… just tears 412314;1386548517;mircea_popescu;lol why tears ?! 412315;1386548556;pankkake;just general unhappiness [said pankkake the bitcoin emo] 412316;1386548625;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.003276 = 0.3276 BTC [-] 412317;1386548820;mircea_popescu;kik 412318;1386549662;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.1525 BTC [+] 412319;1386549845;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16237 @ 0.00080437 = 13.0606 BTC [+] {2} 412320;1386549870;thestringpuller;someone needs to ipo a pgp carrier pigeon service 412321;1386549874;thestringpuller;that would be so gangsta 412322;1386549927;pankkake;ip over avian carriers was done btw https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_over_Avian_Carriers 412323;1386549950;mircea_popescu;been done, but not by us 412324;1386549955;mircea_popescu;casascius coins by pigeon 412325;1386549978;pankkake;if the coin is lost you're pretty screwed 412326;1386549990;pankkake;you'd probably want to send it in two waves 412327;1386550014;dub;https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BaVkd_rIYAA8F3D.png MPOE-PR hard at work 412328;1386550051;dub;and mircea_popescu with a guiding hand obviously 412329;1386550104;mircea_popescu;lmao 412330;1386550349;mircea_popescu;serie: programiertips is getting a lot of mileage. 412331;1386550376;mircea_popescu;schreiben sie ein top-programm! 412332;1386550402;mircea_popescu;it can't be just a fucking program already. it's gotta be special. on a 8 bit register but nevertheless TOP!!1 412333;1386550455;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.327 BTC [+] 412334;1386550516;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 409 @ 0.00325996 = 1.3333 BTC [+] {5} 412335;1386550567;pankkake;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=362400.msg3884477#msg3884477 is there a "are you for real" meme? 412336;1386550569;ozbot;[IPO] Established Business With Long Term Earnings -Huge Returns For Early Birds 412337;1386550662;mircea_popescu;lmao 412338;1386550738;mircea_popescu;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=362400.msg3882938#msg3882938 lol duffer has it 412339;1386550740;ozbot;[IPO] Established Business With Long Term Earnings -Huge Returns For Early Birds 412340;1386550777;mircea_popescu;pankkake is this the new ggblblb whatever that crazy guy was pushing ? 412341;1386550780;mircea_popescu;aussie something 412342;1386550832;pankkake;don't know what that is 412343;1386550854;mircea_popescu;hum 412344;1386550880;mircea_popescu;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=153138.msg3722232#msg3722232 412345;1386550882;ozbot;GBBG Bitcoin Fund 412346;1386550902;pankkake;who wouldn't trust that face! 412347;1386550972;Duffer1;ha 412348;1386551004;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 89 @ 0.00300001 = 0.267 BTC [-] {3} 412349;1386551309;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00081999 = 4.4279 BTC [+] {2} 412350;1386551370;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1337 @ 0.00082 = 1.0963 BTC [+] 412351;1386552119;thestringpuller;"He may have a wall street corner office but his methods are definitely from the street" 412352;1386553566;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16213 @ 0.00083642 = 13.5609 BTC [+] {3} 412353;1386553993;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 679 @ 0.00300005 = 2.037 BTC [+] {5} 412354;1386554420;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33697999 BTC [+] 412355;1386554522;javanomad;;;seen unbalanced 412356;1386554522;gribble;unbalanced was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 days, 21 hours, and 56 seconds ago: *Part Tops = what drunk people call Pop Tarts 412357;1386555665;cazalla;did predictious just copy all the bitbet prop bets and say it's a first or am i missing something 412358;1386555697;unbalanced;hey javanomad, how's it going? 412359;1386555711;cazalla;https://www.predictious.com/sports/superbowl-coin-toss-2014/heads https://www.predictious.com/economics/bitcoin-new-all-time-high-2014/10000 412360;1386555732;pankkake;oh I didn't know predictious even existed 412361;1386555759;pankkake;you can "buy" and "sell"? that's weird 412362;1386555834;cazalla;from http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-12-08/bitcoin-derivatives-market-has-arrived 412363;1386555913;kakobrekla;bitbet: 412364;1386555913;kakobrekla;2 weeks 6 days ago (19-11-2013) 412365;1386555917;unbalanced;Is this the one by those professors? Someone posted a link to an article last week 412366;1386555919;kakobrekla;predict: Saturday, November 30, 2013 9:00:00 PM GMT 412367;1386555932;kakobrekla;bout 11 days later 412368;1386555953;pankkake;well the option stuff isn't really new. and lol they have a quarkcoin one 412369;1386555955;kakobrekla;10k bet: bitbet: Bet started: 412370;1386555955;kakobrekla;1 week 1 day ago (30-11-2013) 412371;1386555962;kakobrekla;predict: Friday, December 6, 2013 8:00:00 PM GMT 412372;1386555969;kakobrekla;no doubt. 412373;1386556035;kakobrekla;they would be better off reselling bitbet positions 412374;1386556128;pankkake;well a lot of bets have no one "selling" so this kinda sucks 412375;1386556183;kakobrekla;dunno their volume seems to be about equal to average single bitbet 412376;1386556193;unbalanced;How's your headache pankkake? I'm a little behind in the logs but you seemed defeated lately... Pain will do that to ya. 412377;1386556206;unbalanced;Go troll someone to get your spirits up. 412378;1386556224;kakobrekla;no brain no tumor pankkake 412379;1386556235;pankkake;well no I don't have the mood to troll anymore 412380;1386556240;pankkake;which is telling! 412381;1386556250;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 5 @ 0.09300001 = 0.465 BTC [-] {3} 412382;1386556257;unbalanced;But... the summer of George! 412383;1386556258;pankkake;kakobrekla: no but I have stuff not going on well physically in it :/ 412384;1386556261;pankkake;hehe 412385;1386556267;truffles;pankkake ure sick? ;( 412386;1386556271;truffles;:(* 412387;1386556272;javanomad;unbalanced - howdy - all good 412388;1386556284;pankkake;sinuses and tooth issues 412389;1386556290;unbalanced;Carp 412390;1386556295;unbalanced;I mean crap 412391;1386556330;pankkake;well this explains the me-doing-nothing all day 412392;1386556373;unbalanced;Hey javanomad... looks like my package is at the border. I should be enjoying the coffee this week. 412393;1386556403;unbalanced;kakobrekla, I read you found the Ethopian you ordered to be a little... meh? 412394;1386556414;javanomad;unbalanced - yah, I checked the tracking - should be close 412395;1386556440;unbalanced;How's the business going, in say orders per week or whatever you don't mind disclosing? 412396;1386556458;kakobrekla;well, you hyped this shit to stars so its hard to keep up with the expectations then, also i only tried one flavour so far, and its not bad, but it doesnt blow my head off 412397;1386556490;javanomad;Came to a halt as soon as the rocket launched from $800. Just a couple orders since then. First two months were great though. 412398;1386556503;unbalanced;Well, I'm not a coffee guru I just know what I like. 412399;1386556518;kakobrekla;hey im all up for experimentation 412400;1386556526;kakobrekla;nothing wrong if i dont like everything 412401;1386556533;kakobrekla;and its not that i dont like it. 412402;1386556558;unbalanced;I'll opine about javanomad's Indonesian once I try it -- but you'll have to judge for yourself. 412403;1386556581;kakobrekla;are you getting unroasted beans 412404;1386556586;javanomad;most of my sales were made in Oct when BTC was around fiattissue $140 - and I just held the BTC, so pretty pleased. 412405;1386556591;unbalanced;Roasted by a pro 412406;1386556601;kakobrekla;aha 412407;1386556618;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla:they would be better off reselling bitbet positions << this is actually true, however, 412408;1386556633;mircea_popescu;most people making websites are into making websites, not so much into making money. 412409;1386556634;unbalanced;Yes this is the first time I've spent coins and had the exchange rate drop after. Yay me 412410;1386556674;mircea_popescu;pankkake go to the dentist ? 412411;1386556688;mircea_popescu;unbalanced wd. 412412;1386556692;unbalanced;Although I hardly checked the price this weekend, spent my little Bitcoin time reading the logs here. There's hope for me yet. 412413;1386556711;pankkake;mircea_popescu: well I'm going to expensive specialists, been going for months 412414;1386556715;unbalanced;;;ud wd 412415;1386556716;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=wd | WD. Welfare Dave- lowest form of life on earth. Eats government chesse.Wants more people to work to pay for his free gobmint chesse. Because he is to useless  ... 412416;1386556717;ozbot;Urban Dictionary: wd 412417;1386556733;mircea_popescu;pankkake they offer to take your sinuses out for you yet ? 412418;1386556740;unbalanced;I'm going to hope he meant "word" 412419;1386556751;mircea_popescu;unbalanced wd = well done. 412420;1386556774;unbalanced;You kids today with your srsly huise 412421;1386556777;unbalanced;*guise 412422;1386556792;mircea_popescu;jesus ud has pretty much become one huge injoke wrapped in its own context 412423;1386556803;pankkake;it's finally going somewhere (actual results/proof), and I stop being treated as a hypochondriac, which is certainly progress 412424;1386556817;pankkake;just mad that it took 6 months 412425;1386556828;mircea_popescu;truth. all hypochondriacs aspire to one day progress to actual sickness 412426;1386556834;pankkake;:D 412427;1386556858;mircea_popescu;if it makes you feel any better : about five years ago i thought i had a heart attack 412428;1386556859;unbalanced;good one, you made him smile 412429;1386556871;mircea_popescu;so i rushed to the hospital, explained to the admittance clerk why i'm there 412430;1386556881;unbalanced;(wish I'd hit enter a half-second sooner) 412431;1386556882;Duffer1;panic attack? 412432;1386556886;truffles;ure sick in the head? 412433;1386556887;mircea_popescu;she looked at me kinda hm ? got a doctor asap, they did the blood clotting thing 412434;1386556894;pankkake;yeah I had a few panic attacks/arithmias 412435;1386556900;mircea_popescu;i was like... perfect. doctor wanted to know what exactly gave me the idea ?! 412436;1386556921;pankkake;but that thing, no, I was pretty sure something was fucking wrong. turns out, I actually have *two* things 412437;1386556946;kakobrekla;more is better, same with shares. 412438;1386556947;mircea_popescu;apparently what i had was that a bit of inside skin got caught in between my ribs. 412439;1386556969;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla one day he will have over nine things. 412440;1386556977;kakobrekla;:) 412441;1386557030;truffles;skin in ribs, sounds like a bit much on the kink.. 412442;1386557083;mircea_popescu;lol 412443;1386557125;Duffer1;too many camel :P 412444;1386557142;Duffer1;really though how does that even happen? 412445;1386557198;mircea_popescu;i have no idea. apparently one of the perks of being a tall skinny fuck, you can pinch your insides 412446;1386557204;mircea_popescu;the result ? sharp pain when inhaling. 412447;1386557227;jurov;sudden sharp pain behind the ribs? yea it happens occassionally to many people 412448;1386557247;jurov;i happened to find it on wikipedia... can't remember the name 412449;1386557251;Duffer1;i'm glad it was miner, or at least, not a heart attack 412450;1386557271;truffles;weird im more interested in pankkake's fake illnesses than this "sharp pain" stuff 412451;1386557298;pankkake;it's not fake :/ 412452;1386557310;kakobrekla;ITS NOT WATER!!!! 412453;1386557334;pankkake;I have a sinus that is really really tight compared to the other one 412454;1386557349;truffles;0.o 412455;1386557359;pankkake;and an infection on a teeth root (probably not the correct English term but fuck it) 412456;1386557373;jurov;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precordial_catch_syndrome 412457;1386557374;ozbot;Precordial catch syndrome - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 412458;1386557383;mircea_popescu;lol so take it in the other sinus. 412459;1386557394;mircea_popescu;whoa jurov! today i learn~! 412460;1386557409;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 205 @ 0.34878788 = 71.5015 BTC [+] {18} 412461;1386557458;pankkake;someone likes asicminer today 412462;1386557497;nubbins`;ugh, was working on a logo for a client 412463;1386557523;nubbins`;they liked the concept sketches and had no complaints about the work as it was progressing 412464;1386557527;nubbins`;send off a final proof 412465;1386557539;nubbins`;"actually i hate this, i just didn't want to say anything because you're a nice guy" 412466;1386557544;nubbins`;"you can keep the deposit, tho" 412467;1386557554;truffles;lol 412468;1386557562;truffles;blow to the ego eh 412469;1386557565;nubbins`;(a) no fucking shit i can keep the deposit 412470;1386557575;nubbins`;(b) what the fuck kind of way is that to work with someone? 412471;1386557576;mircea_popescu;lmao 412472;1386557591;jurov;nubbins`: give it to beggars on #-otc 412473;1386557598;nubbins`;hahaha 412474;1386557605;nubbins`;it was actually for some guy in -otc 412475;1386557609;mircea_popescu;lol 412476;1386557610;nubbins`;so that's exactly what i'm going to do 412477;1386557616;assbot;Last 5 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1497497/plain/) 412478;1386557616;mircea_popescu;!b 5 412479;1386557618;nubbins`;lelelelelelelelel 412480;1386557644;nubbins`;is there anywhere i can host an .svg for free? 412481;1386557684;mircea_popescu;wordpress.com 412482;1386557698;nubbins`;yeah, i was about to say, fuck it, i'll do it myself on our blog 412483;1386557699;nubbins`;heh 412484;1386557740;pankkake;so you can get not paid for work? harsh 412485;1386557776;nubbins`;well, i got paid half. 412486;1386557800;nubbins`;and he didn't even receive the vector files, just a medium-res png 412487;1386557819;pankkake;oh, ok 412488;1386557834;nubbins`;large enough for a website, sure 412489;1386557843;mircea_popescu;pankkake once i paid this mexican band to stfu while i eat. 412490;1386557846;mircea_popescu;they didn't mind. 412491;1386557849;nubbins`;just kind of burns me that some asshole would just watch me make something he doesn't like 412492;1386557859;nubbins`;rather than, you know, act like an adult human :( 412493;1386557899;pankkake;yeah, I've had the itch to pay beggars to just stop a few times 412494;1386557918;truffles;rly 412495;1386557922;truffles;that will keep em going 412496;1386557929;pankkake;yeah, that's one issue 412497;1386557988;pankkake;but some have the worst music choices ever and every day the same song (in the parisian metro) 412498;1386557999;pankkake;at least the romanian ones tell you about their 12 children starving 412499;1386558039;truffles;saw bunch of romanian beggers once, turns out theyre being forced.. 412500;1386558053;pankkake;:/ 412501;1386558054;truffles;step about prostitution 412502;1386558060;truffles;above* 412503;1386558097;truffles;they were rly strategic about it though, in corners 412504;1386558115;dub;nubbins`: he probably couldnt schedule a parent to make the decision for him 412505;1386558123;nubbins`;heh 412506;1386558123;pankkake;locations are very important 412507;1386558130;dub;you know, gen why problems 412508;1386558136;pankkake;one saw two beggars almost fighting for a spot 412509;1386558169;dub;there are a few beggars around where I live 412510;1386558182;dub;which is annoying considering how much it costs to live here 412511;1386558194;dub;I'm toying with making a blog for them 412512;1386558206;pankkake;what do you mean, it's expensive? 412513;1386558209;truffles;u sir do brag 412514;1386558214;dub;these are teh straight, gimme money type, no singing and dancing 412515;1386558282;truffles;i give my spare's to beggers, but im fearful of doing so these days 412516;1386558323;dub;one of them is like 16-18 skinny long haired nerdy type, seen him in a acouple of neighbouring suburbs. his pitch is 'my parents are alcoholics and I've chosen not to live with them' 412517;1386558344;dub;no way this dude is homeless, he's making banque 412518;1386558349;truffles;lol 412519;1386558355;pankkake;eh, many beggars aren't homeless 412520;1386558371;dub;a lot of them make good money 412521;1386558377;pankkake;not that there is anything wrong with that 412522;1386558382;dub;yes there is 412523;1386558394;dub;get the fuck out my hood you dirty little motherfucker 412524;1386558397;truffles;well if its tough for them at home.. 412525;1386558410;truffles;ur hood? 412526;1386558420;nubbins`;heh 412527;1386558424;Vexual;i think you dropped this gold ring 412528;1386558479;mircea_popescu;mike_c http://trilema.com/2013/snsa-november-2013-statement/ with apologies for teh delay. 412529;1386558506;mike_c;nice, thanks. 412530;1386558535;KRS-;where do you live dub 412531;1386558560;mike_c;S.NSA realised no operating revenue this period, however is expected to realise operating revenue next period. << good news for yes on that shipping bitbet. 412532;1386558579;nubbins`;right on! 412533;1386558580;dub;KRS-: ballertown 412534;1386558629;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 191 @ 0.00329998 = 0.6303 BTC [+] {7} 412535;1386558715;truffles;http://pictures.mastermarf.com/blog/2009/090803-17-dollars.jpg dub? 412536;1386558757;pankkake;I want some gangsta bitcoin pics 412537;1386558760;pankkake;not sure how to do it 412538;1386558767;mircea_popescu;what's the left hemiparesis our brave chap is displaying ? 412539;1386558773;nubbins`;wallet address w/ 0.001 btc 412540;1386558784;thestringpuller;debian why you so fucked 412541;1386558786;Vexual;ak? 412542;1386558797;mircea_popescu;does it read M for Mwhyusomean ? 412543;1386558927;Vexual;sign up for militia, sell ak, get $17, profit 412544;1386558975;mircea_popescu;you know they did that a lot ion the civil war ? 412545;1386558985;nubbins`;heh 412546;1386558997;truffles;so many good meme's out there 412547;1386559058;Vexual;american civil war? 412548;1386559239;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32450 @ 0.00084993 = 27.5802 BTC [+] 412549;1386559258;nubbins`;you mean other countries had civil wars? 412550;1386559273;KRS-;yeah dude 412551;1386559279;KRS-;oh lol 412552;1386559334;nubbins`;;) 412553;1386559361;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18200 @ 0.000851 = 15.4882 BTC [+] {2} 412554;1386559367;Vexual;imagined buying power index trending up i see 412555;1386559390;KRS-;I gotta wake up some..gawd. 412556;1386559392;truffles;https://www.ico6.com/image/cache/data/shirts/guyballr1-342x342.jpg how many ppl can say that heh 412557;1386559394;KRS-;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3L4spg8vyo 412558;1386559394;ozbot;Eric Clapton- Cocaine - YouTube 412559;1386559401;KRS-;Buy Cocaine on iTunes 412560;1386559427;nubbins`;hahahahaha 412561;1386559430;pankkake;nice 412562;1386559439;KRS-;shit I've been going to the shitty part of town for that all this time.. 412563;1386559467;Vexual;that kid is more gangsta than he seems, he actually sold the piece for $50, then set the rate on facebook 412564;1386559573;truffles;"Real men Do it with Bitcoins" t shirt lol 412565;1386559816;javanomad;;;seen deadweasel 412566;1386559816;gribble;deadweasel was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 days, 1 hour, 27 minutes, and 45 seconds ago: ;;ticker 412567;1386560570;truffles;http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/08/07/article-2184688-146B2CF3000005DC-519_634x422.jpg tell me this doesnt make u chuckle 412568;1386560925;pankkake;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBVFpYN0iNo 412569;1386560925;ozbot;Godfrey Bloom: The State is an Institution of Theft - YouTube 412570;1386561048;Vexual;brussels stole my pancreas! 412571;1386561075;truffles;and no riots were had 412572;1386561379;truffles;http://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/130806-germany-sausage-merkel.photoblog600.jpg heh 412573;1386561419;Vexual;no kraut? 412574;1386561443;kakobrekla;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=361664.msg3885862#msg3885862 412575;1386561445;ozbot;What markets are there? 412576;1386561446;kakobrekla;a fun one 412577;1386561498;Vexual;someone put their clogs on the wrong feet this morning 412578;1386561601;truffles;i think he's upsest about something 412579;1386561619;truffles;this neotrix 412580;1386561630;kakobrekla;people get annoyed when you try to debug them 412581;1386561634;kakobrekla;its a long known fact 412582;1386561666;truffles;he had some points 412583;1386561678;kakobrekla;wha? 412584;1386561696;truffles;the message was conveyed even if the english wasnt up to par 412585;1386561707;kakobrekla;what points? 412586;1386561708;pankkake;his exchange lists only himself and two other things, one of them being a scam 412587;1386561719;pankkake;so that's almost like MPEx! 412588;1386561740;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00084687 = 0.8469 BTC [-] 412589;1386561754;kakobrekla;lol pankkake 412590;1386561759;truffles;1st paragraph 412591;1386561777;truffles;last sentences 412592;1386561800;kakobrekla;feel free to paste the part you have in mind 412593;1386561814;truffles;there were only 2 paragraphs 412594;1386561829;kakobrekla;and no sense. 412595;1386561880;truffles;i agree with his feelings on the matter, not his business related things 412596;1386561923;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00085054 = 5.3584 BTC [+] 412597;1386562054;truffles;good day 412598;1386562093;pankkake;;;estimate 412599;1386562094;gribble;Next difficulty estimate | 906741452.688 based on data since last change | 894132728.373 based on data for last three days 412600;1386562174;mike_c;when people complain about the look of mpex.co I point them to http://nginx.org/ 412601;1386562227;Duffer1;i dont see the differece 412602;1386562228;Duffer1;n 412603;1386562230;pankkake;one of the things that always attracted me to open source software was the simple, no bullshit homepages 412604;1386562230;pankkake;to the point 412605;1386562231;mike_c;exactly 412606;1386562245;mike_c;no difference, and nginx is awesome. 412607;1386562267;pankkake;but that's not true of all anymore http://openvpn.net/ = vomit 412608;1386562344;pankkake;http://software.schmorp.de/pkg/rxvt-unicode.html I like that one too 412609;1386562345;ozbot;rxvt-unicode 412610;1386562404;Vexual;budgerigar +5 412611;1386562407;mike_c;on the other hand, a consumer-focused broker like coinbr still needs that new logo we were promised 412612;1386562480;pankkake;http://www.vim.org/ hehe 412613;1386562481;ozbot;welcome home : vim online 412614;1386562503;Vexual;hey, he bought a drill 412615;1386562536;Vexual;and judgingby all theat swarf, he's not afraid to use it 412616;1386562711;nubbins`;hey, i do logo work 412617;1386562724;Vexual;entrepenerial little fuckers, those sudanese 412618;1386562824;pankkake;not somalians? 412619;1386562848;Vexual;? 412620;1386562895;Vexual;can you draw mermaids nubs? 412621;1386563018;nubbins`;i can't draw much, but i pay people who can 412622;1386563039;Vexual;di it on cpec 412623;1386563042;Vexual;*spec 412624;1386563073;Vexual;html 5, see more nipple when you trade more 412625;1386563079;nubbins`;heh 412626;1386563085;nubbins`;spec work is for suckers 412627;1386563158;Vexual;howd that last commission go? :) 412628;1386563177;nubbins`;the one where i got stiffed for $150 or the one before that? 412629;1386563186;pankkake;Vexual: good idea. kinda like http://www.lirent.net/2008/07/hot-babe-for-cpu/ 412630;1386563204;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.34899999 = 1.396 BTC [+] {2} 412631;1386563326;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.34899 = 0.698 BTC [-] 412632;1386563631;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 90 @ 0.00334382 = 0.3009 BTC [+] {5} 412633;1386564521;Vexual;i just gold oldfashioned blueprints in the mail 412634;1386564554;Vexual;what a joy 412635;1386564668;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.34899 = 2.4429 BTC [-] 412636;1386564678;mike_c;where they blue? 412637;1386564680;mike_c;wer 412638;1386564681;mike_c;were 412639;1386564688;Vexual;yep, blue 412640;1386565103;Vexual;anyone interested in community title land near nimbin with network infrastucture? 412641;1386565538;Vexual;silly cone valley? 412642;1386565583;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.34899 = 0.698 BTC [-] 412643;1386565606;Vexual;mpex macadamias 412644;1386565612;dub;lol nimbin 412645;1386565621;dub;that explains Vexual 412646;1386565705;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.33265546 = 2.6612 BTC [-] {7} 412647;1386565710;Vexual;i was hoping nubbins might explain the project to the council 412648;1386565827;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.33000333 = 0.99 BTC [-] {2} 412649;1386565840;Vexual;they hear a north american accent, and you can see dollar saigns in their glassy reflections 412650;1386565888;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.32875 = 1.315 BTC [-] {3} 412651;1386565900;Vexual;excellent rental yeilds, and you can build whatever you like as long as you dont hurt any creatures 412652;1386566097;Vexual;now if i can just find some bulldozer merchant on alibaba whos heard of bitcoin! 412653;1386566153;Vexual;anyone would think they get a cut of wire transfer fees 412654;1386566252;Vexual;waiting for corruption coin perhaps? 412655;1386566288;Vexual;20% to the zero chain on every tx 412656;1386566350;Vexual;sorry lads, you'll have to work around it, bitcoin is bitcoin 412657;1386566982;nubbins`;i am good at explaining things 412658;1386567103;Vexual;i am good at noticing that 412659;1386567191;Vexual;ive also solved the, how to make money from satellite problem 412660;1386567495;Duffer1;paywall all porn sites? 412661;1386567523;Duffer1;off "adult premium" package to unlock 412662;1386567526;Duffer1;offer 412663;1386567547;Vexual;close, you pay mike myers 1c on the dollar for the waynes world name 412664;1386567617;Vexual;millions of revievers over asia with a free market 412665;1386567637;Vexual;sirrus radio compatible 412666;1386567675;Vexual;resellers 412667;1386567694;Vexual;all the frequencies 412668;1386567707;Vexual;no doc approval 412669;1386567779;Vexual;a fleet of xfighters for insurance 412670;1386567954;Vexual;asciilifeform gave me the idea 412671;1386567997;Vexual;with a half decent solar array, a dischardge cap and a nanotube diamond laser, yuo can be pretty protected in space 412672;1386568001;mike_c;i read that three times, and.. i'm lost. 412673;1386568013;mike_c;except resellers, that sounds good 412674;1386568023;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45982 @ 0.00085091 = 39.1265 BTC [+] {4} 412675;1386568082;Vexual;all the channels 412676;1386568097;Vexual;people love free shit 412677;1386568154;Vexual;and id bal 0.1/hr to pipe some youtube to unseen vitims 412678;1386568197;nubbins`;heh, i released that asshole's logo for free as suggested 412679;1386568199;nubbins`;great idea 412680;1386568243;Vexual;to freedom! 412681;1386568283;Vexual;not everyone has dish movers either, so for the cool content, bloomberg etc will have to pay for a channel 412682;1386568326;Vexual;satan help us if this channel goes video 412683;1386568359;Vexual;mpex ticker and blockchain 412684;1386568406;Vexual;im pretty sure dvt does 6mb/hour, then some 412685;1386568496;Vexual;all dem ccard recievers are linux box too 412686;1386568512;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19600 @ 0.00084846 = 16.6298 BTC [-] 412687;1386568546;nubbins`;ha-ha 412688;1386568550;nubbins`;shamed him into paying 412689;1386568623;Vexual;who? 412690;1386568637;Vexual;ah logoman 412691;1386568649;nubbins`;yep 412692;1386568662;Vexual;good stuff, you did the work 412693;1386568667;nubbins`;nod 412694;1386568680;nubbins`;too bad for him, he paid the balance after i released the logo for free to the world 412695;1386568730;Vexual;he didnt want to use it? 412696;1386568755;nubbins`;he claimed after i delivered the final proofs that he hated the design and was going to pay someone else to do it 412697;1386568787;nubbins`;even though he okayed everything from the initial napkin sketches all the way up to the final 412698;1386568796;Vexual;logo hate is on the rise 412699;1386568806;nubbins`;well ya know 412700;1386568808;nubbins`;if you hate a logo 412701;1386568815;nubbins`;do you tell the designer when you see the concept sketch 412702;1386568825;nubbins`;or do you wait for him to waste another 5 hours of his time? 412703;1386568826;Vexual;gotta pay to hate 412704;1386568841;nubbins`;yeah, he can think what he wants of it now 412705;1386568846;nubbins`;roll it up and smoke it for all i care 412706;1386568853;Vexual;thats it 412707;1386568862;Vexual;poor communication is poor business 412708;1386568866;nubbins`;nod 412709;1386568886;Vexual;paid in full is good business 412710;1386568895;nubbins`;double nod 412711;1386568918;nubbins`;brb, PK oil 412712;1386568919;Vexual;nicely niclely 412713;1386568943;Vexual;digital audio broadcast? 412714;1386568967;nubbins`;p is for purple 412715;1386568980;Vexual;ah 412716;1386568982;Vexual;nod 412717;1386568985;nubbins`;;D 412718;1386568992;nubbins`;just over a year old, found it today 412719;1386568994;nubbins`;small vial 412720;1386569199;Vexual;what design packages do you uses? photoshop? 412721;1386569244;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11768 @ 0.00085345 = 10.0434 BTC [+] 412722;1386569259;Vexual;u got a big arse mac and a clean office? 412723;1386569384;nubbins`;i use gimp and inkscape 412724;1386569394;nubbins`;illustrator for output 412725;1386569401;nubbins`;macbook and a very, very messy studio 412726;1386569418;nubbins`;p'shop is too pricey 412727;1386569422;KRS|Gotyawallet;Sexual: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1sdmrq/commonwealth_bank_of_australia_blocking/ 412728;1386569424;nubbins`;illo was too pricey, but we need it 412729;1386569490;Vexual;any blender experience? 412730;1386569531;nubbins`;very little, some years ago 412731;1386569543;nubbins`;generally not much call for 3d in print work :) 412732;1386569684;Vexual;3d gonna need more artists when oculus rift 412733;1386569748;Vexual;also, 3d printers 412734;1386569815;Vexual;>bronze casting 412735;1386569903;nubbins`;nod 412736;1386569914;nubbins`;was discussing 3d printing earlier today 412737;1386569933;nubbins`;mildly surprised patent trolling hasn't shut it down yet 412738;1386569986;Vexual;well a 2000$ makerbot still kinda needs an artist to finish whatever comes out 412739;1386570061;Vexual;input too 412740;1386570097;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00085358 = 4.2679 BTC [+] 412741;1386570145;nubbins`;yeah 412742;1386570170;KRS|Gotyawallet;anyone have any cex.io 412743;1386570252;KRS|Gotyawallet;cointerra stories? 412744;1386570295;Vexual;make email, free ghash, happily 412745;1386570313;KRS|Gotyawallet;trying to figure out whats a scam and what isnt 412746;1386570399;Vexual;well, you'll never feel safe until you make the 1btc yuou have to stake to play 412747;1386570456;Vexual;forget about dollars, work in bitcoin, and youll be fine 412748;1386570514;KRS|Gotyawallet;what vexual? lulz I got btc bankroll 412749;1386570530;KRS|Gotyawallet;i was a miner in 2012 412750;1386570549;Vexual;i wasnt born then 412751;1386570610;KRS|Gotyawallet;Are you feeling ok today 412752;1386570623;Vexual;yeah 412753;1386570633;nubbins`;hahahahahaha 412754;1386570644;assbot;Last 5 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1497566/plain/) 412755;1386570644;nubbins`;!b 5 412756;1386570707;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17300 @ 0.00085424 = 14.7784 BTC [+] 412757;1386570758;Vexual;http://www.artslant.com/global/artists/show/47347-leonardo-lucchi 412758;1386570760;ozbot;ArtSlant - Leonardo Lucchi 412759;1386570994;nubbins`;TIL ctrl-c clears line input at bash prompt 412760;1386571007;nubbins`;just when you think you understand something... 412761;1386571134;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24700 @ 0.00085424 = 21.0997 BTC [+] 412762;1386571399;Vexual;google baits me just to learn more 412763;1386571408;Vexual;http://www.propel.org.au/dreamgirl/filesend/8518/ChloeTupper_Intrinsic_MOE2011_web.jpg 412764;1386571490;Vexual;http://vimeo.com/12632019 412765;1386571491;ozbot;Clare Bowditch - Bigger Than The Money (Dir: Kess Broekman-Dattner) on Vimeo 412766;1386571622;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.13000001 BTC [-] 412767;1386571678;KRS|Gotyawallet;vexual: sometimes i stare at a blank google search and I go blank..can't even think of what i want to learn..its an amazing feeling but fucked up 412768;1386571678;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 412769;1386571683;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 890 @ 0.0005 = 0.445 BTC [+] {2} 412770;1386571744;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 45 @ 0.34697971 = 15.6141 BTC [+] {8} 412771;1386571802;Vexual;krs its the most advanced fake login page ever 412772;1386571901;Vexual;needs must 412773;1386571982;KRS|Gotyawallet;anyone here evar purchase from cointerra 412774;1386571986;Vexual;nigerieans in nightclubs pretend to work for google 412775;1386572002;KRS|Gotyawallet;f'n nigerians and their internet fraud..i want to hack and rip them off 412776;1386572030;KRS|Gotyawallet;just like the old days, finding and beating up low level drug dealers for their cash 412777;1386572039;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJOuvEcarNs 412778;1386572039;ozbot;I Go Chop Your Dollar With lyrics (Subtitles) 419 Nigerian Scam Song - YouTube 412779;1386572076;Vexual;3 computers per capital=good haxxors 412780;1386572090;Apocalyptic;dat nigerian 412781;1386572476;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.35 BTC [+] 412782;1386572903;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.15 BTC [-] 412783;1386573050;KRS|Gotyawallet;hey uhh 412784;1386573051;KRS|Gotyawallet;is this real 412785;1386573051;KRS|Gotyawallet;http://www.chronicle.su/news/world-news/dr-angstrom-h-troubador-breaks-bitcoin/ 412786;1386573052;ozbot;Dr. Angstrom H. Troubador Breaks Bitcoin | The Internet Chronicle 412787;1386573083;KRS|Gotyawallet;its all over man 412788;1386573086;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17700 @ 0.00085424 = 15.12 BTC [+] 412789;1386573116;KRS|Gotyawallet;switch to litecoins on your way out 412790;1386573186;KRS|Gotyawallet;The owner of MtGox pounded his corporate fist at his podium, “We aren’t closing down, but we’re downsizing. If they bust Litecoin, we’re done. 412791;1386573204;KRS|Gotyawallet;WHAT THE FUCK 412792;1386573456;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mNPKNAQl4c 412793;1386573457;ozbot;Dawn Penn No, No No (GREAT QUALITY) - YouTube 412794;1386573465;nubbins`;parody site 412795;1386573487;nubbins`;other headline: "Scientists invent new endangered species" 412796;1386573546;Vexual;thats gold 412797;1386573692;Vexual;no money in it tho 412798;1386573715;nubbins`;nope 412799;1386573818;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 15 @ 0.35 = 5.25 BTC [+] 412800;1386573914;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LFjHo7Cdrw 412801;1386573914;ozbot;Howlin' Wolf - Spoonful - YouTube 412802;1386574001;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.35 = 2.45 BTC [+] 412803;1386574009;taub;holy fucking shit 412804;1386574010;taub;fuck btcchina 412805;1386574014;taub;all of the sudden 412806;1386574018;taub;their api returns balances liek this 7,658.58742 412807;1386574031;taub;that ',' didnt used to be there 412808;1386574035;Vexual;looks rite 412809;1386574054;Vexual;your computer is broken? 412810;1386574055;taub;tell that your program that expects a float/decimal 412811;1386574066;taub;that comma isn't supposed to be there fugface 412812;1386574105;Vexual;ill eat all your puglets 412813;1386574155;taub;they really want people to screw over with the api 412814;1386574159;taub;so they can get in and make some markets 412815;1386574165;Vexual;yeah 412816;1386574179;taub;fuck'em 412817;1386574184;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.34 = 0.68 BTC [-] 412818;1386574222;Vexual;there yo go 412819;1386574245;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1010 @ 0.00321779 = 3.25 BTC [-] {3} 412820;1386574250;Vexual;yelling never helpsd 412821;1386574306;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 125 @ 0.00321779 = 0.4022 BTC [-] {2} 412822;1386574576;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2In5a9LDNg 412823;1386574577;ozbot;Take 5 - YouTube 412824;1386574748;taub;and they stll dont return your own orders .... 412825;1386574839;Vexual;its like wtching paint dry 412826;1386575151;taub;whats 412827;1386575166;taub;of coruse it doesnt help 412828;1386575169;taub;but it feels good =D 412829;1386575213;taub;http://www.sierrachart.com/image.php?l=1386575210434.png 412830;1386575226;taub;suddenly mystery volume spike, i welcome you 412831;1386576014;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14700 @ 0.00085464 = 12.5632 BTC [+] {2} 412832;1386576014;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.35 = 0.7 BTC [+] 412833;1386576746;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14000 @ 0.0008549 = 11.9686 BTC [+] 412834;1386576807;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11473 @ 0.0008549 = 9.8083 BTC [+] 412835;1386576868;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9827 @ 0.00085522 = 8.4042 BTC [+] 412836;1386576990;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1041 @ 0.00321779 = 3.3497 BTC [-] {2} 412837;1386577295;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 71 @ 0.00321998 = 0.2286 BTC [+] {2} 412838;1386577417;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 83 @ 0.00322289 = 0.2675 BTC [+] {2} 412839;1386578393;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 14 @ 0.35 = 4.9 BTC [+] 412840;1386580101;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21098 @ 0.00085522 = 18.0434 BTC [+] 412841;1386581870;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.146 = 0.292 BTC [-] {2} 412842;1386582419;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 443 @ 0.0005 = 0.2215 BTC [+] 412843;1386583212;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34950 @ 0.00086444 = 30.2122 BTC [+] {2} 412844;1386583517;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00325 = 0.1625 BTC [+] 412845;1386583700;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 49 @ 0.00325 = 0.1593 BTC [+] 412846;1386583822;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10500 @ 0.0008635 = 9.0668 BTC [-] 412847;1386585896;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.003016 = 1.508 BTC [-] {3} 412848;1386586910;KRS|Gotyawallet;.calc 412849;1386586914;KRS|Gotyawallet;;;calc 412850;1386586914;gribble;(calc ) -- Returns the value of the evaluated . The syntax is Python syntax; the type of arithmetic is floating point. Floating point arithmetic is used in order to prevent a user from being able to crash to the bot with something like '10**10**10**10'. One consequence is that large values such as '10**24' might not be exact. 412851;1386586922;KRS|Gotyawallet;!facts 412852;1386586927;KRS|Gotyawallet;;;facts 412853;1386586928;gribble;To see a nice sortable web view of all factoids, click here: http://gribble.dreamhosters.com/viewfactoids.php?db=%23bitcoin-assets || To see a list of the most popular factoids, run !rank || To search factoids, run !factoids search 412854;1386586967;KRS|Gotyawallet;gribble cant access database? 412855;1386587005;KRS|Gotyawallet;bitcoin-assets.com down? 412856;1386587731;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla: people get annoyed when you try to debug them 412857;1386587734;assbot;Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1497788/plain/) 412858;1386587734;mircea_popescu;!b 1 412859;1386587985;jurov;ah it's off for smoking break 412860;1386588537;KRS|Gotyawallet;HAHA i dig the humor in here never lets me down 412861;1386589068;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 67 @ 0.00301321 = 0.2019 BTC [-] 412862;1386589479;mircea_popescu;!t s.mpoe 412863;1386589479;assbot;Quest for vision is a great blessing. 412864;1386589482;mircea_popescu;!t m s.mpoe 412865;1386589482;assbot;[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00078594 / 0.00084614 / 0.00086478 (382641 shares, 323.77 BTC), 7D: 0.00078101 / 0.00080868 / 0.00086478 (1390517 shares, 1,124.48 BTC), 30D: 0.0007725 / 0.00081464 / 0.00088996 (6059633 shares, 4,936.45 BTC) 412866;1386589515;mircea_popescu;btc drops, mpoe soars. weird. 412867;1386590959;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3489 BTC [-] 412868;1386590996;davout;doesn't it make sense for an options corp to be perceived as more valuable with increased volatility? 412869;1386591935;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00086378 = 8.0332 BTC [+] 412870;1386592123;KRS|Gotyawallet;huh 412871;1386592332;thestringpuller;davout it usually is perceived more valuable with increased volatitily 412872;1386592340;thestringpuller;wow that wasn't supposed to be a pm sorrry davout 412873;1386592470;thestringpuller;also when bitcoin price decreases all the assets usually go up in btc related value 412874;1386592482;KRS|Gotyawallet;hey umm..anyone have any idea what could happen to btc if or when the U.S. announces capital flight controls? 412875;1386592545;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3489 BTC [-] 412876;1386592601;thestringpuller;like what restricting outside investment? 412877;1386592608;thestringpuller;like what they're doing in china? 412878;1386592696;KRS|Gotyawallet;*I think* or maybe something worse than what we are seeing..that exchange to fiat or goods/services be illegal. This would make it a mere token. 412879;1386592723;KRS|Gotyawallet;token being having no value 412880;1386592931;dexX7;something like this usually turns into a fud fest ("omg china banned btc, sell sell"), some people lose, some people gain, a few days or weeks everything is where it was before 412881;1386592971;dexX7;exchanges were hacked, went offline, funds were already confiscated etc. 412882;1386593091;thestringpuller;I don't think the US can ban the us of conversion into fiat 412883;1386593116;KRS|Gotyawallet;yeah? 412884;1386593124;thestringpuller;because if that becomes the case I'm just gonna liquidate into Yen 412885;1386593130;thestringpuller;and buy all my shit from japan 412886;1386593216;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00086458 = 4.15 BTC [+] 412887;1386593277;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28250 @ 0.00086896 = 24.5481 BTC [+] {2} 412888;1386593948;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18835 @ 0.00086974 = 16.3816 BTC [+] 412889;1386594314;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.0030409 = 1.5205 BTC [+] {3} 412890;1386594375;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 860 @ 0.00302974 = 2.6056 BTC [-] {4} 412891;1386594436;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.003028 = 0.3028 BTC [-] 412892;1386594565;twizt;plus if u convert to yen u have more digits lol 412893;1386594579;twizt;can be a billionaire in terms if yen or even trilli 412894;1386595168;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 130 @ 0.0030155 = 0.392 BTC [-] {2} 412895;1386596083;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18900 @ 0.00086724 = 16.3908 BTC [-] 412896;1386596205;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34 BTC [-] 412897;1386596266;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.09400003 = 0.282 BTC [+] {2} 412898;1386597098;ThickAsThieves;;;bcstats 412899;1386597100;gribble;Current Blocks: 273976 | Current Difficulty: 7.074082830514966E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 274175 | Next Difficulty In: 199 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 23 hours, 24 minutes, and 42 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 902751455.276 | Estimated Percent Change: 27.61392 412900;1386597181;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00086724 = 8.3255 BTC [-] 412901;1386597242;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19400 @ 0.00087015 = 16.8809 BTC [+] {4} 412902;1386597669;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34 BTC [-] 412903;1386597699;ThickAsThieves;http://bitbet.us/bet/519/btc-network-difficulty-to-top-1b-before-2014/ 412904;1386597703;ozbot;BitBet - BTC network difficulty to top 1B before 2014 412905;1386597705;ThickAsThieves;bet is gettin huge! 412906;1386597730;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.345 = 0.69 BTC [+] 412907;1386597748;KRS|Gotyawallet;hows that work, the wining bet splits the pot evenly among the betters based on the size of their bet? 412908;1386597768;twizt;its a binary bet 412909;1386597773;twizt;look up binary option pricing 412910;1386597822;davout;thestringpuller: no worries, that's just why i don't get why mircea_popescu is amazed at mpoe soaring in the context of increased volatility 412911;1386597990;ThickAsThieves;except if the bottom falls out of MPOE it's a cliff 412912;1386598340;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38500 @ 0.00086418 = 33.2709 BTC [-] {2} 412913;1386598464;Diablo-D3;itym terminal velocity freefall 412914;1386598523;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.348 BTC [+] 412915;1386598706;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34418 @ 0.00086373 = 29.7279 BTC [-] {2} 412916;1386599682;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 105 @ 0.00309321 = 0.3248 BTC [+] {2} 412917;1386599865;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 11 @ 0.02281003 = 0.2509 BTC [+] 412918;1386599867;pankkake;no next diff increase has to be less than 10% for that be to be No? related: http://bitbet.us/bet/596/btc-difficulty-to-increase-by-less-than-10/?ref=1Eck6cgGzEb9N42CFhcsCBQhZQStoJbHRK :p 412919;1386599926;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 11 @ 0.02281001 = 0.2509 BTC [-] 412920;1386599987;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36800 @ 0.00086373 = 31.7853 BTC [-] {2} 412921;1386600109;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 100 @ 0.02266669 = 2.2667 BTC [-] {8} 412922;1386600292;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 47 @ 0.0226 = 1.0622 BTC [-] 412923;1386600321;ThickAsThieves;Roughly 1700TH were added this diff period, the most in any period 412924;1386600370;pankkake;any idea who? 412925;1386600393;pankkake;BFL actually delivered its black friday sales within a week, but I doubt it's only them :) 412926;1386600403;ThickAsThieves;dunno who really 412927;1386600405;KRS|Gotyawallet;get ready for this boys 412928;1386600405;KRS|Gotyawallet;http://forexmagnates.com/plus-500-bites-the-virtual-currency-bullet-launches-litecoin-trading/ 412929;1386600409;ozbot;Plus 500 Bites The Virtual Currency Bullet - Launches LiteCoin Trading | Forex Magnates 412930;1386600528;ThickAsThieves;i do know that another 650TH will need to be added for the diff to increase to 1B 412931;1386600562;ThickAsThieves;that amount increase each day 412932;1386600569;ThickAsThieves;(for purposes of the bet) 412933;1386600600;pankkake;oh, right, the latter it is added, the higher it has to be. didn't think about that 412934;1386600611;jurov;KRS yes i got email from them for lulz.. but they do only CFDs... borderline bucket shop 412935;1386600632;KRS|Gotyawallet;maybe not..only 1.3 mil visitors last month, btc-e did 4.3 412936;1386600639;KRS|Gotyawallet;it helps but meh 412937;1386600642;ThickAsThieves;the avg increase has been about 1000TH per diff period lately 412938;1386600666;KRS|Gotyawallet;ThickAsThieves oh cool i had to get back to that 412939;1386600686;ThickAsThieves;mor elike 900Th 412940;1386600697;ThickAsThieves;it's gonna be a nailbiter most likely 412941;1386600708;ThickAsThieves;unless someone else major plans on shipping this mo 412942;1386600712;KRS|Gotyawallet;im trying to figure out if my next round of funding will make roi on 2TH machines 412943;1386600722;KRS|Gotyawallet;im thinking no 412944;1386600729;ThickAsThieves;dont buy miners 412945;1386600735;KRS|Gotyawallet;for realz 412946;1386600748;ThickAsThieves;we're very close to some changes 412947;1386600769;ThickAsThieves;25% diff changes arent gonna be so common 412948;1386600825;KRS|Gotyawallet;i was lucky and my bfl purchases made roi and then some but damn it got close. 412949;1386601006;KRS|Gotyawallet;people better start securing their wallets 412950;1386601085;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00310229 = 0.3102 BTC [+] {3} 412951;1386601246;pankkake;well january should see a lot of new generation miners 412952;1386601264;ThickAsThieves;from who? 412953;1386601264;pankkake;but after that the increases should be harder to achieve 412954;1386601268;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 388 @ 0.0030213 = 1.1723 BTC [-] 412955;1386601276;pankkake;cointerra, hashfast 412956;1386601297;ThickAsThieves;both have delays no? 412957;1386601309;pankkake;hashfast was supposed to ship already so… yes 412958;1386601323;pankkake;cointerra has a small december run + big january one 412959;1386601348;ThickAsThieves;i'm skeptical theyll ship on time, of course 412960;1386601348;topace;any news lately on bfl's monarch ? 412961;1386601369;pankkake;of course, it all depends on how late they are, months or weeks ;) 412962;1386601381;kakobrekla;yes, new redering pic, 3000 dpi 412963;1386601395;ThickAsThieves;BFL guaranteed by xmas right? 412964;1386601397;ThickAsThieves;hehe 412965;1386601402;pankkake;still, better than active mining! 412966;1386601439;ThickAsThieves;ActM is such a lollercoaster i cant even keep up anymore, i just ignore it all 412967;1386601461;pankkake;http://virtualminingcorp.com/shop1/img/p/5/5/55-large_default.jpg that's just not going to work 412968;1386601470;pankkake;at least the BFL miner looks like it has credible cooling 412969;1386601575;topace;i have no doubt in my mind that bfl will produce a next gen product, whether it lives up to specs and is on-time, thats another story 412970;1386601604;topace;but you'd have to think there some credence to their story that "they know what they're doing now, since they've done it all once already" from an ASIC point of view 412971;1386601624;topace;maybe they'll go from 14 months behind to just 6 months behind 412972;1386601632;topace;or shock everyone and start shipping in a few weeks 412973;1386601664;nubbins`;morning 412974;1386601668;ThickAsThieves;sup 412975;1386601706;nubbins`;nm, just did some kid's homework for a few hundred bucks ;0 412976;1386601725;nubbins`;irc is an odd place 412977;1386601747;mikaeldice;#bookwormsforbitcoin? 412978;1386601750;pankkake;topace: yeah that's what I believe too. almost tempted to Yes on shipping bets given the potential gains 412979;1386601756;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8582 @ 0.0008655 = 7.4277 BTC [+] 412980;1386601804;topace;i've got 4 monarchs in their "first batch (december/january)" so im hoping yes too 412981;1386601815;pankkake;hehe 412982;1386601855;nubbins`;xmas gift 412983;1386601872;topace;that'd be amazing, but im not holding my breathe 412984;1386601872;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 412985;1386601877;topace;AMAZING! 412986;1386601995;ThickAsThieves;didnt their email promo promise xmas delivery? 412987;1386602000;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38350 @ 0.0008718 = 33.4335 BTC [+] {2} 412988;1386602305;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 75 @ 0.00311 = 0.2333 BTC [+] 412989;1386602306;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 65 @ 0.02191718 = 1.4246 BTC [-] {2} 412990;1386602366;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 11 @ 0.02299999 = 0.253 BTC [+] 412991;1386602488;pankkake;perhaps they'd say "you don't really believe in santa do you?" 412992;1386602495;pankkake;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=348468.msg3887814#msg3887814 :o 412993;1386602497;ozbot;[BitFunder] Moving Forward/Resolution Process 412994;1386602610;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 222 @ 0.00311 = 0.6904 BTC [+] 412995;1386602702;nubbins`;heh 412996;1386602713;nubbins`;i haven't been keeping up with this, give me the elevator version? 412997;1386602732;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 11 @ 0.02249999 = 0.2475 BTC [-] 412998;1386602764;pigeons;nubbins`: bitfunder/weex/ukto say "your bitcoins aren't there, but trust us, one day they will be" 412999;1386602773;nubbins`;ah, lel 413000;1386602776;nubbins`;my sides 413001;1386602784;nubbins`;what does that even mean 413002;1386602793;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16218 @ 0.00086878 = 14.0899 BTC [-] 413003;1386602814;nubbins`;it's really too bad that bitcoin space is populated almost completely by utter thieves and fuck-ups 413004;1386602820;nubbins`;makes me want to cash out 413005;1386602884;nubbins`;and whenever one of these scams is exposed, people wail and flap their arms and say edgy things like "maybe let's sue him!" and then nothing. ever. happens. 413006;1386603029;pankkake;:( same feels 413007;1386603044;KRS|Gotyawallet;lmao market is tanking bad and gox disabled their login button 413008;1386603066;nubbins`;bitcoin: totally on the up-and-up 413009;1386603073;pankkake;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=333851.msg3891842#msg3891842 looks like MP was right about icbit 413010;1386603075;ozbot;[Direct] BTC Growth - Forex Volatility Focus 413011;1386603086;nubbins`;bitcoin: you can withdraw your coins during times of higher than usual volatility 413012;1386603089;nubbins`;wait, no 413013;1386603096;KRS|Gotyawallet;nubbins =( 413014;1386603102;nubbins`;D: 413015;1386603110;KRS|Gotyawallet;its here for a while 413016;1386603114;nubbins`;yeah 413017;1386603119;nubbins`;lotta retards left to fleece 413018;1386603160;KRS|Gotyawallet;they deserve it, im watching the chatter all over the place, these fools are treating the market like a casino instead of learning how to trade. 413019;1386603201;pankkake;oh you can read many times "it's a gamble" 413020;1386603217;pankkake;perhaps I don't have that risk taking personality but it seems highly wrong to me 413021;1386603250;nubbins`;KRS|Gotyawallet: well, y'know, show me three bitcoin securities where the graphs don't look like waterslides. 413022;1386603253;KRS|Gotyawallet;The answers are out there you can tell exactly what the market is going to do.. 413023;1386603272;KRS|Gotyawallet;haha 413024;1386603279;nubbins`;protip: you can't 413025;1386603283;KRS|Gotyawallet;the thing is, i saw it coming and got out..theres still people cheering it on 413026;1386603292;nubbins`;yeah 413027;1386603310;KRS|Gotyawallet;i day trade but i also have btc saved up 413028;1386603351;nubbins`;i don't do much trading anymore 413029;1386603358;KRS|Gotyawallet;i do this for the lulz because its free money i see the market price is up and theres great volume, then i see its going to go down, i sell, buy when it starts to rise..repease..this place is an ATM machine to me 413030;1386603368;nubbins`;took out initial investment and a nice comfy cushion 413031;1386603371;nubbins`;sitting on the rest 413032;1386603374;pankkake;> ATM machine 413033;1386603388;nubbins`;> PIN number 413034;1386603389;pankkake;unless you mean Ass To Mouth 413035;1386603392;nubbins`;hhahah 413036;1386603394;KRS|Gotyawallet;haha 413037;1386603395;ThickAsThieves;EasyCoin update: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=364485.0 413038;1386603400;nubbins`;would buy this machine 413039;1386603403;nubbins`;how much in btc? 413040;1386603452;KRS|Gotyawallet;im not sure its legal in the US 413041;1386603461;nubbins`;ass to mouth 413042;1386603462;nubbins`;? 413043;1386603464;KRS|Gotyawallet;that canadian company already tried that 413044;1386603466;nubbins`;its ok, im canadian 413045;1386603469;pankkake;should be sold on #bitcoin-ass or #bitcoin-anal 413046;1386603500;nubbins`;neo-easycoin 413047;1386603503;pankkake;EasyCoin looks pretty awesome, it's really that kind of service that me need 413048;1386603508;pankkake;we* 413049;1386603510;nubbins`;you can tell it's legit because the OP has 4 posts 413050;1386603522;nubbins`;and because nobody from neo/bee has popped in to confirm they're involved 413051;1386603529;KRS|Gotyawallet;Do you say Eh all the time? 413052;1386603538;nubbins`;KRS|Gotyawallet: nope, that's prairie talk 413053;1386603541;KRS|Gotyawallet;haha 413054;1386603568;KRS|Gotyawallet;I went to college and made friends with a couple of guys from Toronto we had a blast. Cheers to Canada 413055;1386603612;KRS|Gotyawallet;I bet that other ass-to-mouth company (robocoin?) squashed them like a bug. 413056;1386603620;ThickAsThieves;Nubbins, it's legit 413057;1386603624;nubbins`;ah, k 413058;1386603630;KRS|Gotyawallet;I think robocoin got venture capital from the investment group I joined. 413059;1386603633;nubbins`;i've got scams on the mind :D 413060;1386603645;nubbins`;just found a mention of it on the havelock site 413061;1386603665;ThickAsThieves;the only reason Neo is getting scam attention is the premature sharing of their involvement with Ukyo 413062;1386603740;pigeons;well that's a good reason 413063;1386603772;pigeons;plus i saw this bees nees stuff trading and read their prospectus. if you still think its legit, i can't help you 413064;1386603807;ThickAsThieves;it's real pigeons 413065;1386603814;ThickAsThieves;maybe you dont like the plan 413066;1386603817;ThickAsThieves;but it's real 413067;1386603823;nubbins`;bees nees! 413068;1386603827;nubbins`;i like that 413069;1386603854;pankkake;lol, I don't understand the doubts of it being real. actually, same for other securities when some still are arguing about it 413070;1386603891;KRS|Gotyawallet;http://imgur.com/QSzNSMW 413071;1386603891;ozbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 413072;1386603909;pankkake;the real issues are as always, what will investors get out of it 413073;1386603930;mike_c;who is running the marketing department over there? easycoin sounds like alt-coin #4,220 413074;1386603937;pankkake;KRS|Gotyawallet: this reads "hello IRS" 413075;1386603954;nubbins`;it also reads "i'm an asshole, let the air out of my tires" 413076;1386603976;pankkake;he's already punishing himself with that yellow color 413077;1386604027;mike_c;sorry socialists, but that car is awesome. 413078;1386604027;nubbins`;huh. gold buffalo coin: stranger-looking than i expected 413079;1386604091;KRS|Gotyawallet;cant believe mtgox would disable their login button so these poor saps can sell their coin 413080;1386604120;pankkake;I can login 413081;1386604190;pigeons;its an awesome car for a girl to drive maybe 413082;1386604196;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27498 @ 0.0008623 = 23.7115 BTC [-] {2} 413083;1386604235;nubbins`;heh 413084;1386604242;mike_c;hah. if it doesn't break down, a lotus is way more fun to drive than your average porsche or ferrari or whatever. 413085;1386604258;pigeons;but its girly yellow, its too low, and no room even to haul home the deer you hit with it 413086;1386604275;mike_c;good point on the deer. 413087;1386604279;nubbins`;great if you have a track nearby 413088;1386604283;nubbins`;would not drive it on most roads 413089;1386604284;mike_c;^^ 413090;1386604294;mike_c;or your local parking lot autocross club 413091;1386604296;nubbins`;oops, pothole, there goes your undercarriage 413092;1386604318;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 60 @ 0.02191104 = 1.3147 BTC [-] {3} 413093;1386604420;KRS|Gotyawallet;lotus is a good handling car but i dont like them..they dont impress me that much either..where i live there are are quite a few 413094;1386604425;KRS|Gotyawallet;so tiny too 413095;1386604624;mike_c;tiny, light, balanced. 413096;1386605271;KRS|Gotyawallet;yeah they probably handle like a go-cart..thats one thing they've always done well. 413097;1386605294;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 11 @ 0.02222999 = 0.2445 BTC [+] 413098;1386605613;KRS|Gotyawallet;mike_c: this is more my style http://tinyurl.com/nnh4nk6 413099;1386605646;nubbins`;nice house 413100;1386605659;KRS|Gotyawallet;wut 413101;1386605668;mike_c;not too shabby either 413102;1386605687;KRS|Gotyawallet;that house looks like ass 413103;1386605934;thestringpuller;lotuses are for asians 413104;1386605938;thestringpuller;you asian KRS|Gotyawallet ? 413105;1386606098;nubbins`;krs, kidding ;( 413106;1386606105;nubbins`;they need some bleach on those roof tiles 413107;1386606248;pankkake;PETAmine coming to havelock? 413108;1386606269;pankkake;I guess it's going to be "why you can't invest on havelock" now 413109;1386606294;nubbins`;at the very least, HIF is gonna be doling out divs from listing fees :P 413110;1386606346;nubbins`;okay, so i've been looking up dry salami recipes 413111;1386606356;pankkake;so, what do we learn? 1) it's better to sell miners than mine 2) it's better to run the exchange than investing 413112;1386606360;nubbins`;some of them use bacteria cultures and nitrites and all this shit 413113;1386606374;nubbins`;then i found another one that was literally just pork, fatback, garlic, fennel, and salt 413114;1386606453;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23533 @ 0.00087029 = 20.4805 BTC [+] {2} 413115;1386606471;nubbins`;fuck this, i'm making chili 413116;1386606549;nubbins`;careful what ya wish for 413117;1386606639;nubbins`;i use pure sriracha as the base 413118;1386606643;nubbins`;j/k ;( 413119;1386606663;nubbins`;seriously though, this salami shit has me interested 413120;1386606706;truffles;those meats arent to my liking 413121;1386606783;nubbins`;you can use any meat you want! 413122;1386606791;nubbins`;pork, beef, venison, moose, whatever 413123;1386606808;truffles;i only eat meat cuz i need protein 413124;1386606809;ThickAsThieves;something unhealthy but delicious: mix a bunch of olive oil with nutritional yeast and spices, mix into rotini, put some cheese on top if you like and bake in oven for a bit, put a fair amount of sriracha on top when done 413125;1386606812;ThickAsThieves;so good 413126;1386606812;truffles;oh and the smell 413127;1386606827;nubbins`;nutritional yeast? 413128;1386606840;ThickAsThieves;yeah it's a great tool 413129;1386606845;nubbins`;interesting 413130;1386606857;ThickAsThieves;adds a sorta nutty/cheesy flavor 413131;1386606861;nubbins`;i haven't bought yeast since i started a sourdough culture last year :D 413132;1386606863;ThickAsThieves;it's yellow dust 413133;1386606871;ThickAsThieves;it's not alive 413134;1386606891;nubbins`;ah 413135;1386606893;nubbins`;interesting 413136;1386606970;nubbins`;"yellow dust" reminds me of living in korea ;( 413137;1386606992;nubbins`;http://mykimchi.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/img_7288.jpg 413138;1386607024;ThickAsThieves;pollen or just smog? 413139;1386607052;pankkake;dirty rain? we have that in France 413140;1386607053;nubbins`;actual dust, blown over from the gobi desert 413141;1386607056;nubbins`;happens every spring 413142;1386607063;nubbins`;the dirt on that car? that's a day's worth. 413143;1386607123;nubbins`;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:S2001080041432.L1A_HJMS.ChinaDust_md.jpg 413144;1386607132;nubbins`;visible from space 413145;1386607318;dingledoo;sudo yum carCheese 413146;1386607917;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 64 @ 0.003015 = 0.193 BTC [-] {2} 413147;1386608100;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18350 @ 0.00087389 = 16.0359 BTC [+] {3} 413148;1386608893;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.10483333 = 0.3145 BTC [+] {2} 413149;1386608954;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.105 BTC [+] 413150;1386609015;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.11899999 BTC [+] 413151;1386609076;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.15900229 BTC [+] 413152;1386609377;thestringpuller;so snoop dogg will be the first hip hop artist to accept bitcoins? 413153;1386609396;pigeons;first one you've heard of 413154;1386609535;KRS|Gotyawallet;saw this in the trollbox made me lmao 413155;1386609535;KRS|Gotyawallet;Ran into FONTAS last night. He kissed my baby girl. I thought that was cool of him. This morning when we woke up she was sitting upright, hands out made of solid gold and a BTC dispenses from her mouth every 30 minutes. I was sad at first, but now I'm trading on BTC-e 413156;1386609592;truffles;penus is now a girl?` 413157;1386609692;KRS|Gotyawallet;yes 413158;1386609718;KRS|Gotyawallet;Because you know, HotUglyWife goes ass to mouth. 413159;1386609748;thestringpuller;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1riwzi/fontas_stay_away_from_his_scam_or_you_will_loose/ 413160;1386609869;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5856 @ 0.00087405 = 5.1184 BTC [+] 413161;1386609871;KRS|Gotyawallet;i actually made money with him because i got good at reading the charts and i could tell when he was pumping before the announce. 413162;1386609877;KRS|Gotyawallet;I <3 Fontas. 413163;1386609967;pankkake;I don't that redditor understands what noob means 413164;1386610344;dingledoo;i don't think that redditor is conscious anymore 413165;1386610353;dingledoo;inebriated "i just lost my btc" rant. 413166;1386610417;pankkake;and not in a good way. that's like "i'm mad because I failed to scam" 413167;1386610578;thestringpuller;ever since havelock ipoed itself 413168;1386610590;thestringpuller;it's been letting everything through 413169;1386610608;pankkake;havelock is a slut 413170;1386610618;pankkake;that's why it shall be known as havecocks 413171;1386610627;thestringpuller;you know that's a good analogy 413172;1386610634;thestringpuller;havelock has become the slut of exchanges 413173;1386610640;pankkake;yes it's a good ANALogy 413174;1386610657;thestringpuller;pankkake: is the one who is inebriated 413175;1386610666;thestringpuller;drinking a '44 chateua de blanc 413176;1386610671;thestringpuller;chateau* 413177;1386610723;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17400 @ 0.00087405 = 15.2085 BTC [+] 413178;1386610906;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1395 @ 0.00010103 = 0.1409 BTC [-] {4} 413179;1386611028;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31111 @ 0.00087405 = 27.1926 BTC [+] 413180;1386611140;kakobrekla;eh im having Chateau de Chaselet 413181;1386611272;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.00301331 = 1.5067 BTC [-] {4} 413182;1386611577;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 790 @ 0.00301308 = 2.3803 BTC [-] {2} 413183;1386611638;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 73 @ 0.003013 = 0.2199 BTC [-] {3} 413184;1386611970;pankkake;http://i.imgur.com/GJlBjcX.png :o 413185;1386612065;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 24 @ 0.05 = 1.2 BTC {4} 413186;1386612087;thestringpuller;what episode is that 413187;1386612089;thestringpuller;most recent one? 413188;1386612126;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 102 @ 0.05 = 5.1 BTC {2} 413189;1386612187;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 102 @ 0.05 = 5.1 BTC {2} 413190;1386612248;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 51 @ 0.05 = 2.55 BTC {2} 413191;1386612263;thestringpuller;I should get in on this PETA business before it forms a bubble and cash in on the pump dump action 413192;1386612266;thestringpuller;scammer's AHOY 413193;1386612309;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 99 @ 0.05 = 4.95 BTC {2} 413194;1386612310;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 300 @ 0.00300024 = 0.9001 BTC [-] {3} 413195;1386612370;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 155 @ 0.05 = 7.75 BTC {3} 413196;1386612371;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 881 @ 0.00300021 = 2.6432 BTC [-] 413197;1386612410;the20year;RentalStarter direct share conversion is complete, an email will go out shortly to all past/present investors 413198;1386612431;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.05 = 0.5 BTC 413199;1386612553;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 44 @ 0.05 = 2.2 BTC 413200;1386612649;dingledoo;HL marketing team: "Got Cocks? We Havecocks!" "Since we let you saps buy our debt, we are now going to sell you worthless shares of even more worthless companies, and we kNOW it!" 413201;1386612691;dingledoo;*Slingin' Cocks at noobs since 2013 413202;1386612736;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [7C] 26 @ 0.0077 = 0.2002 BTC 413203;1386612842;the20year;lol 413204;1386612950;pankkake;thestringpuller: yes latest episode 413205;1386612956;pankkake;I thought PETA already IPOed 413206;1386612964;pankkake;or maybe they didn't sell it all?! 413207;1386612980;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 67 @ 0.00300008 = 0.201 BTC [-] 413208;1386613041;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.05 = 0.25 BTC 413209;1386613102;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 100 @ 0.05 = 5 BTC 413210;1386613206;dingledoo;People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals has a bitcoin IPO? scammerz! 413211;1386613243;pankkake;People for Eating Tasty Animals 413212;1386613285;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.05 = 0.4 BTC 413213;1386613346;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 98 @ 0.02052743 = 2.0117 BTC [-] {6} 413214;1386613407;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.05 = 0.25 BTC 413215;1386613409;dingledoo;ah, they can actually monetize that. 413216;1386613416;dingledoo;Meat by Mail 413217;1386613419;dingledoo;4 btc 413218;1386613480;the20year;so if HL is scammy, what exchanges do you like? 413219;1386613582;pankkake;None? :( 413220;1386613598;dingledoo;^ 413221;1386613609;dingledoo;Nothing worth exchanging really 413222;1386613615;dingledoo;unless you're IPO dumping 413223;1386613651;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.05 = 0.25 BTC 413224;1386613672;dingledoo;If there was an exchange with reasonable fees, I'd be tempted to hold some MPOE. 413225;1386613692;pankkake;https://coinbr.com/ref?c=V1CUawCMeE :p 413226;1386613694;ozbot;About CoinBr 413227;1386613708;pankkake;but anyway, it doesn't beat just holding btc by much 413228;1386613712;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.05 = 0.5 BTC 413229;1386613713;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33703224 BTC [-] 413230;1386613723;dingledoo;yeah, I don't like places that charge me all of my referall fees back to themselves. 413231;1386613751;KRS|Gotyawallet;I made money with havelock before Panama..haven't been on the site since, but for no reason really. 413232;1386613760;dingledoo;just another place to dump his MPOE, SNSA, etc onto noobs. 413233;1386613769;dingledoo;havelock is clearly shit now, since their HIM 413234;1386613773;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 26 @ 0.05 = 1.3 BTC {3} 413235;1386613780;KRS|Gotyawallet;rly havent been watching 413236;1386613780;pankkake;HIF* 413237;1386613783;KRS|Gotyawallet;how's XBOND 413238;1386613786;dingledoo;accepting twats-on-stick company listings. 413239;1386613787;pankkake;HIM is the mining, renamed to HMF 413240;1386613810;pankkake;XBOND is recalled, so there are no profitable securities now :p 413241;1386613814;dingledoo;lol 413242;1386613819;KRS|Gotyawallet;=/ 413243;1386613835;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.05 = 0.2 BTC {2} 413244;1386613851;nubbins`;People Eating Tasty Ass-hash 413245;1386613865;pankkake;technically AsicMiner is above its IPO price 413246;1386613867;leopold78;Hello Everybody! I just wanna let you know if you will register in this site you will get 0.001 for free! already I am a registered user and i am so so satisfied with every services! They are guaranteed that they have the lowest prices and fees! Anyway if you register you can lose nothing! In fact: Get your free btc! Check this out: http://ewalletbtc.com/ 413247;1386613878;dingledoo;leopold78: eat a dick 413248;1386613878;nubbins`;aaaah fuck off 413249;1386613895;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.05 = 0.3 BTC 413250;1386613922;ThickAsThieves;"Need info on how to invest in am100, I'm in the USA." 413251;1386613935;nubbins`;ah, interesting 413252;1386613945;nubbins`;i'm in the internet 413253;1386613956;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.05 = 0.2 BTC {2} 413254;1386613958;ThickAsThieves;I'm in the inbox. 413255;1386613981;nubbins`;you're not in *his* inbox ;) 413256;1386614001;ThickAsThieves;not yet! 413257;1386614017;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 50 @ 0.05 = 2.5 BTC 413258;1386614036;ThickAsThieves;i think i just won't reply to that one 413259;1386614088;ThickAsThieves;kinda hard to know my email, know the ticker, but not know how to buy 413260;1386614106;pankkake;that would probably be doing him a service 413261;1386614261;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00011249 = 0.1125 BTC [+] {2} 413262;1386614505;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.15900229 BTC [+] 413263;1386614727;nubbins`;lel 413264;1386614737;nubbins`;the only recourse is to blast "raspberry beret" 413265;1386614749;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 56 @ 0.00309642 = 0.1734 BTC [+] {4} 413266;1386614751;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00087644 = 3.4181 BTC [+] {2} 413267;1386614755;nubbins`;hey, anyone been to berlin? 413268;1386614804;ThickAsThieves;no, but i hear theyre big on bitcoin 413269;1386614811;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 59 @ 0.00310999 = 0.1835 BTC [+] {4} 413270;1386614861;nubbins`;starting to narrow down our euro trip next summer 413271;1386614873;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 40 @ 0.05 = 2 BTC 413272;1386614888;nubbins`;thinking france/germany/netherlands/belgium 413273;1386614934;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.05 = 0.45 BTC {3} 413274;1386614993;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6403 @ 0.00087361 = 5.5937 BTC [-] 413275;1386615007;nubbins`;mostly just really wanna visit the re:surgo! studio in berlin, but i hear it's generally a nice, relatively inexpensive city 413276;1386615176;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.05 = 0.5 BTC 413277;1386615178;jcpham;the kind you find in a second-hand store 413278;1386615227;jcpham;raspberry beret 413279;1386615243;jcpham;and if it was warm she wouldn't wear much more 413280;1386615270;jcpham;thanks nubbins` that's just great that prince is stuck in my head 413281;1386615359;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 52 @ 0.00318846 = 0.1658 BTC [-] {5} 413282;1386615360;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.348333 BTC [+] 413283;1386615420;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00305001 = 0.305 BTC [-] 413284;1386615422;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.05 = 0.15 BTC 413285;1386615481;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 27 @ 0.05 = 1.35 BTC {3} 413286;1386615482;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 4 @ 0.05 = 0.2 BTC [+] 413287;1386615603;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7447 @ 0.00087296 = 6.5009 BTC [-] 413288;1386615603;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.05 = 1 BTC 413289;1386615665;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 155 @ 0.00310789 = 0.4817 BTC [+] {3} 413290;1386615725;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 5695 @ 0.00320491 = 18.252 BTC [+] {21} 413291;1386615727;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7053 @ 0.00087508 = 6.1719 BTC [+] {2} 413292;1386615788;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 650 @ 0.00331989 = 2.1579 BTC [+] {3} 413293;1386615847;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 100 @ 0.05 = 5 BTC 413294;1386615848;jborkl;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rl6L8nt3Hc&feature=youtu.be 413295;1386615848;jborkl;new Hashfast promo video, includes how to knock a capacitor over 413296;1386615848;ozbot;Hashfast Module board assembly - YouTube 413297;1386615878;nubbins`;heh 413298;1386616030;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 54 @ 0.05 = 2.7 BTC 413299;1386616031;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 55 @ 0.00304462 = 0.1675 BTC [-] {3} 413300;1386616032;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.348333 = 0.6967 BTC [+] 413301;1386616091;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.05 = 0.25 BTC {2} 413302;1386616152;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.05 = 0.35 BTC 413303;1386616284;jurov;$avg 413304;1386616285;mpexbot;jurov: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. 413305;1386616292;jurov;;;bc,24hprc 413306;1386616293;gribble;843.47 413307;1386616312;jurov;!t m ^oix 413308;1386616312;assbot;[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / 112.23653185 / 112.23653185 (3275 shares, 121.49 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC) 413309;1386616469;pankkake;;;ticker --market btcavg 413310;1386616470;gribble;BitcoinAverage BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 872.51, Best ask: 873.61, Bid-ask spread: 1.10000, Last trade: 873.98, 24 hour volume: 116274.87, 24 hour low: None, 24 hour high: None, 24 hour vwap: 843.75 413311;1386617006;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27200 @ 0.0008692 = 23.6422 BTC [-] {2} 413312;1386617189;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.05 = 0.2 BTC 413313;1386617284;deadweasel;;;ticker 413314;1386617285;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 868.9196, Best ask: 870.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.08040, Last trade: 870.0, 24 hour volume: 32636.23913906, 24 hour low: 718.112, 24 hour high: 980.17661, 24 hour vwap: 861.12764 413315;1386617373;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.05 = 0.25 BTC 413316;1386617398;nubbins`;man oh man 413317;1386617411;nubbins`;http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/kitchen/small-appliances/specialty-appliances/cuisinart-waring-pro-meat-grinder-0432331p.html# 413318;1386617412;ozbot;Cuisinart Waring Pro Meat Grinder | Canadian Tire 413319;1386617425;nubbins`;i know what i'm getting myself for xmas this year 413320;1386617434;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 109 @ 0.05 = 5.45 BTC {3} 413321;1386617455;the20year;The food processor/blender i'm looking at supposedly will do meat grinding decently 413322;1386617462;the20year;Granted the processor i've been using works decently 413323;1386617500;nubbins`;yeah, i'm interested in this one for the sausage attachments 413324;1386617525;the20year;Yeah, would be good. Granted i'm not getting as much meat as i'd hope for this year to make sausage, so everything i do get is being made to jerky 413325;1386617532;nubbins`;nice 413326;1386617543;nubbins`;i've made jerky in my dehydrator a couple of times 413327;1386617555;the20year;I stopped using a dehydrator a long time ago 413328;1386617560;nubbins`;oh yeah? 413329;1386617564;the20year;all the ones i see around here don't dehydrate, they cook it 413330;1386617574;nubbins`;nod, you need to splurge to get a good one 413331;1386617584;nubbins`;it's more the airflow than the heat that dries it out anyway 413332;1386617592;the20year;So anymore i either use my smoker to cold smoke then put it in front of a fan for a day, or just put it in front of a fan for 2 days 413333;1386617608;nubbins`;my dehydrator has a temperature control 413334;1386617630;nubbins`;although it's one of the stacker ones. would much rather one with the fan blowing horizontally 413335;1386617638;nubbins`;no need to reorganize stacks every few hours then 413336;1386617665;the20year;Yeah, that's how i do mine, a bunch of vertically stacked racks 413337;1386617702;the20year;Maybe i can IPO sausage 413338;1386617737;nubbins`;heheheh 413339;1386617748;the20year;did think about selling some jerky on silkroad 413340;1386617751;nubbins`;hm, trying to decide between 375W or 500W grinder 413341;1386617770;the20year;i don't see the difference unless you're expecting extra cartiledge or bone 413342;1386617794;nubbins`;good point 413343;1386617811;the20year;my current processor can't be more than 300w and it does great 413344;1386617825;the20year;the only problems are related to the cutting blade and not the power/speed 413345;1386617845;the20year;Petamine has got 61btc worth of investments today...wow 413346;1386617861;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 500 @ 0.05 = 25 BTC 413347;1386617863;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 47 @ 0.00318899 = 0.1499 BTC [-] 413348;1386617864;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.11789999 BTC [-] 413349;1386617879;the20year;I could do 1gh managed at .035 413350;1386617891;the20year;Maybe I should partner with buyahash :D 413351;1386618044;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 33 @ 0.00329999 = 0.1089 BTC [+] 413352;1386618065;nubbins`;ah, sorry, the smaller is 300W 413353;1386618070;nubbins`;still probably adequate 413354;1386618083;nubbins`;three cutting plates, two sausage adapters 413355;1386618089;nubbins`;this is exciting! 413356;1386618107;the20year;i don't see why it shouldn't do just fine 413357;1386618121;the20year;big thing will be getting your spices/meat cuts down 413358;1386618241;benkay;i'm getting myself bitcoins for christmas. 413359;1386618243;nubbins`;yeah 413360;1386618257;the20year;i finally just set my coinbase account to auto-buy every few days 413361;1386618259;nubbins`;i'm planning to use a lot of moose 413362;1386618276;nubbins`;but moose is notoriously lean, so i'll probably add some pork fatback 413363;1386618278;the20year;I wish I could affordably moose hunt here 413364;1386618301;the20year;My plan has been though if I go to Canada and hunt to just buy a dehydrator up there, then convert the meat to jerky to bring it back here 413365;1386618316;nubbins`;nod, no sense shipping water back home 413366;1386618332;nubbins`;i've got a line on rabbits too, might try some of that 413367;1386618338;the20year;Not just that, there's a 500lb limit on meat 413368;1386618339;nubbins`;actually never tried rabbit before, believe it or not 413369;1386618344;nubbins`;oh, really? 413370;1386618346;the20year;you can only go across the boarder with a set amount of meat 413371;1386618355;nubbins`;interesting 413372;1386618370;the20year;My uncle went there and shot two moose back in the 70s , one was ~1200lbs dressed, the other was like ~500lbs dressed, and he brought back a whole 500lbs 413373;1386618374;the20year;had the butcher keep the rest :( 413374;1386618384;nubbins`;bummer 413375;1386618388;the20year;Yeah 413376;1386618389;nubbins`;great for the butcher tho ;) 413377;1386618405;the20year;If I shoot and dress a 1500lb moose, you had darn well better believe i'm gonna bring back as much as I can 413378;1386618776;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.05 = 0.4 BTC 413379;1386618898;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.05 = 0.5 BTC 413380;1386619020;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.05 = 0.5 BTC 413381;1386619137;dexX7;http://asic-armory.com/ http://www.reddit.com/comments/1s6jkf/bitcoin_mining_with_asicarmorycom/ lol "it's scam for entertainment" 413382;1386619138;ozbot;ASIC-ARMORY.com - Superior Computerized Asic Mining 413383;1386619203;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.05 = 0.5 BTC 413384;1386619454;KRS|Gotyawallet;i would love to figure out a good way to scam the scammers 413385;1386619469;kakobrekla;scam yourself and you are done 413386;1386619475;KRS|Gotyawallet;! 413387;1386619481;KRS|Gotyawallet;why didnt i think if that 413388;1386619492;kakobrekla;cause im smarter 413389;1386619509;KRS|Gotyawallet;i touch myself in your general direction 413390;1386619522;dub;who IPO'd the vegans? 413391;1386619562;KRS|Gotyawallet;I'm sure it was the Somalians. 413392;1386619567;dub;PETA 413393;1386619568;thestringpuller;KRS|Gotyawallet: the best way to scam the scammers would be to use something like bitbet to pull a wire con on someone. 413394;1386619590;thestringpuller;wire cons are by far the greatest pay offs against scammers 413395;1386619593;KRS|Gotyawallet;hmm you got me thinking... 413396;1386619624;thestringpuller;if you actually used bitbet for it, i'm almost certain kako and mircea would -10 you though 413397;1386619638;KRS|Gotyawallet;Why they'd get a percent 413398;1386619645;nubbins`;lel 413399;1386619672;KRS|Gotyawallet;which reminds me i need a new gpg key fawk 413400;1386619691;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18855 @ 0.00086211 = 16.2551 BTC [-] 413401;1386619715;KRS|Gotyawallet;buying and selling into these lambs is so much fun i dont even want to leave my house for days 413402;1386619742;pankkake;hey, asic-armory copied bitbet 413403;1386619752;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10854 @ 0.00086186 = 9.3546 BTC [-] 413404;1386619752;KRS|Gotyawallet;lol wut 413405;1386619766;pankkake;you have to read the terms! 413406;1386619792;nubbins`;"volcano insurance" 413407;1386619798;nubbins`;professional, would send money 413408;1386619814;pankkake;https://blockchain.info/address/1scamqWYiVspdfHwpvgwv8ge2GTNQDAWL it werks. 413409;1386619815;ozbot;Bitcoin Address 1scamqWYiVspdfHwpvgwv8ge2GTNQDAWL 413410;1386619863;TomServo;!jd 413411;1386619864;assbot;Just-Dice stat: 8488 BTC profit, 32.6k BTC invested, 331.38 mio bets, 4.58 mio BTC wagered 413412;1386619874;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.05 = 1 BTC 413413;1386619880;nubbins`;pankkake: oh god it does 413414;1386620036;dexX7;asic-armory runs ads on /r/bitcoin 413415;1386620100;thestringpuller;just-dice is still goin hard eh? 413416;1386620177;KRS|Gotyawallet;its crazy the bets i saw on there today 413417;1386620226;KRS|Gotyawallet;some ppl are just begging to be relived of their btc 413418;1386620248;pankkake;just-dice is a better deal than bitcoin securities 413419;1386620257;pankkake;at least the reward is proportionnal to the risk 413420;1386620273;thestringpuller;when the realized gains on MPBOR aren't negative anymore 413421;1386620281;the20year;what stocks right now have monthly audited financial statements prepared by 3rd parties? 413422;1386620282;thestringpuller;i think MPOE will be the best place to invest 413423;1386620287;KRS|Gotyawallet;many times i've been tempted to throw down a bunch to see if it hit 413424;1386620301;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4444 @ 0.00086186 = 3.8301 BTC [-] 413425;1386620310;thestringpuller;but alas MPOE is here to keep the price from plummeting to 0 413426;1386620364;the20year;Does anyone know? 413427;1386620368;benkay;thestringpuller: what's the relationship between bond returns and stock returns on MPOE? 413428;1386620387;benkay;the20year: nobody. the closest are the MPEx companies. 413429;1386620405;thestringpuller;benkay: there is none 413430;1386620418;thestringpuller;MPOE shareholders aren't liable for losses made by the bot 413431;1386620423;thestringpuller;MPBOR are 413432;1386620426;benkay;innit great? 413433;1386620439;thestringpuller;but there is a correlation between divs paid by MPOE and MPBOR returns 413434;1386620461;benkay;what's that correlation like? 413435;1386620469;thestringpuller;jurov: do you have that sheet? 413436;1386620486;benkay;oh i think that i've seen that sheet 413437;1386620496;thestringpuller;yea take each month and compare to the divs 413438;1386620521;thestringpuller;basically the bot makes a ton during non volatile months and makes losses during volatile months but that's kind of a given 413439;1386620568;benkay;well if the bot is taking a loss then that's getting applied to bondholders, and divs will be reduced 413440;1386620576;benkay;that's not so much a correlation as it is a causative relationship 413441;1386620576;thestringpuller;yup 413442;1386620594;thestringpuller;well any profits amde by the bot not owed as interest to bond holders gets paid as divs to shareholders 413443;1386620606;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 917 @ 0.00304562 = 2.7928 BTC [-] {13} 413444;1386620612;thestringpuller;but mpoe shareholders get MPEX trade fees 413445;1386620618;thestringpuller;and new account fees 413446;1386620633;benkay;dem account fees 413447;1386620643;benkay;one day i'll make my account fee back on account fee divs 413448;1386620644;thestringpuller;so as long as MPEx is running mpoe shareholders will get paid something 413449;1386620654;benkay;/jokes 413450;1386620661;thestringpuller;now that's ponzi talk 413451;1386620661;thestringpuller;jk 413452;1386620681;thestringpuller;ideally you want bayes theorem to equalize on MPBOR losses/profits 413453;1386620704;thestringpuller;total profit - total loss is negative right nwo 413454;1386620706;thestringpuller;now* 413455;1386620717;thestringpuller;because of insider trading during the pirate default 413456;1386620724;thestringpuller;and again during the april crash 413457;1386620734;thestringpuller;and I guess this past november 413458;1386620736;benkay;yeah you better believe i ain't loaning btc to anyone, much less a bot whose algos are black magic 413459;1386620739;the20year;what kind of financial disclosures are on mpex? 413460;1386620748;jurov;https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlhB0UHVxS67dGpBc2Rub3FtLTdHZ3ZPb09DY2pHWlE&usp=drive_web#gid=0 413461;1386620749;ozbot;Google Drive 413462;1386620760;thestringpuller;the20year: ^ that's all you need 413463;1386620763;benkay;lovely, thanks jurov. 413464;1386620767;jurov;but this covers only bondholders 413465;1386620804;jurov;shareholders get anything left if MPOE profit is higher than interest requested by bondholders 413466;1386620825;thestringpuller;yea but the bond holders are kinda getting shafted IMO 413467;1386620828;thestringpuller;it's too risky 413468;1386620835;thestringpuller;i know MP put up his own capital during some months 413469;1386620838;the20year;pretty simple 413470;1386620844;benkay;well those idiots putting capital up at .5% are getting shafted 413471;1386620848;thestringpuller;but even then the total net is like 114% over 413472;1386620864;thestringpuller;yea but if you put up at .5% duringa volatile month you'll still lose money if the bot makes a loss on trading 413473;1386620882;jurov;i gave edit access to smickles and littering of random unnamed numbers are the result 413474;1386620892;jurov;sigh 413475;1386620893;nubbins`;lel 413476;1386620896;benkay;but if you let the low-interest bondholders get taken out during volatile months, you can pull in some interest on the low-vix months afterwards 413477;1386620908;nubbins`;never go full edit! 413478;1386620920;thestringpuller;benkay: at that point you might as well sell short options yourself and take all the risk on your collateral 413479;1386620930;benkay;thestringpuller: yeah buddy 413480;1386620938;thestringpuller;just like the fucker who's making a fortune on the some 250btc of C050 413481;1386620941;benkay;it's not a play i ever intend to make, honestly. 413482;1386620944;thestringpuller;short sold 413483;1386620958;nubbins`;what's the assbot command to get stats on a particular asset? 413484;1386620959;thestringpuller;well not right now it's too early you gotta wait for the price to become more stable 413485;1386620968;thestringpuller;!t 413486;1386620968;assbot;These beans is shit. 413487;1386620972;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 6 @ 0.05 = 0.3 BTC [+] {2} 413488;1386620975;thestringpuller;!t exchange asset 413489;1386620975;assbot;I haven't understood a single word you've said since I met you, not one single word. 413490;1386620978;thestringpuller;!t m s.mpoe 413491;1386620978;assbot;[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.000788 / 0.00086025 / 0.00087729 (853292 shares, 734.05 BTC), 7D: 0.00078101 / 0.00082419 / 0.00087729 (1882374 shares, 1,551.44 BTC), 30D: 0.0007725 / 0.00081853 / 0.00088996 (6518330 shares, 5,335.50 BTC) 413492;1386620978;jurov;!t m o.usd.c110t 413493;1386620979;assbot;[MPEX:O.USD.C110T] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.02 / 0.03684281 / 0.03732936 (2855 shares, 105.19 BTC), 30D: 0.02 / 0.03684281 / 0.03732936 (2855 shares, 105.19 BTC) 413494;1386620985;nubbins`;ah 413495;1386620986;nubbins`;thanks 413496;1386620990;nubbins`;!t m s.mg 413497;1386620990;assbot;[MPEX:S.MG] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.0001579 / 0.00015799 / 0.000158 (12356 shares, 1.95 BTC), 30D: 0.0001 / 0.00013799 / 0.00016 (131784 shares, 18.19 BTC) 413498;1386620998;benkay;!t m o.usd.c050t 413499;1386620999;assbot;[MPEX:O.USD.C050T] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / / ( shares, BTC), 30D: 0.05232243 / 0.05271347 / 0.05294401 (7443 shares, 392.35 BTC) 413500;1386621009;thestringpuller;see someone sold 392 short 413501;1386621017;nubbins`;low/high/last? 413502;1386621019;thestringpuller;that guy is laughing to the bitcoin bank 413503;1386621023;thestringpuller;yea 413504;1386621026;nubbins`;k 413505;1386621028;thestringpuller;now 413506;1386621029;thestringpuller;no 413507;1386621032;thestringpuller;low/avg/high 413508;1386621035;nubbins`;ah 413509;1386621045;nubbins`;right, obv 413510;1386621053;thestringpuller;sorry I'm writing a paper lol getting super distracted 413511;1386621070;nubbins`;also sorry, coulda figured that out myself by reading the numbers ;p 413512;1386621082;benkay;spot'd have to go to 500 for those to even get into the money 413513;1386621082;benkay;right? 413514;1386621082;benkay;no, calls. 413515;1386621089;thestringpuller;no 413516;1386621090;thestringpuller;1200 413517;1386621096;thestringpuller;the lot size changed 413518;1386621102;thestringpuller;to .1 413519;1386621110;benkay;yeah i thought i'd accounted for that 413520;1386621113;nubbins`;;;calc 192000*(0.00015799-0.00013) 413521;1386621114;gribble;5.37408 413522;1386621116;thestringpuller;so ((120 - 50) / 120) * .1 413523;1386621122;thestringpuller;;;calc ((120 - 50) / 120) * .1 413524;1386621122;gribble;0.0583333333333 413525;1386621127;the20year;Total rentalstarter assets of $191,166 413526;1386621133;thestringpuller;;;calc ((110 - 50) / 110) * .1 413527;1386621133;gribble;0.0545454545455 413528;1386621157;thestringpuller;the spot price would have to go to some 1300 I think to push the AVG price up that high 413529;1386621164;thestringpuller;i don't think the avg price went above 105 413530;1386621167;benkay;ah yeah, dat average. 413531;1386621167;thestringpuller;1050* 413532;1386621203;thestringpuller;so that guy is probably making a killing he'll likely make .02 profit per every call bought 413533;1386621757;benkay;yo does anyone have a preferred netbook/minicomp? 413534;1386621873;pankkake;http://www.lemote.com/en/products/Notebook/2010/0310/112.html otherwise you'd hate freedom 413535;1386621911;nubbins`;heh 413536;1386621914;nubbins`;is that the one RMS uses? 413537;1386621952;benkay;page lacks buy button. 413538;1386621959;benkay;i am dissapoint by vertical integration failure. 413539;1386621969;nubbins`;prolly backdoored as fuck too 413540;1386621984;pankkake;yeah, got the link from http://richard.stallman.usesthis.com/ :) 413541;1386621999;pankkake;well no, it's open source! 413542;1386622000;nubbins`;heh 413543;1386622009;benkay;wow fuck everything that's a 15 hundred dollar thing 413544;1386622016;nubbins`;did anyone audit the code? ;D 413545;1386622059;kakobrekla;its not a real computer if its has a camera 413546;1386622061;nubbins`;my blood is open source, but nobody's asked me to take an aids test before i fuck them raw 413547;1386622071;benkay;whatcha gonna do, compile everything from source every damn time? 413548;1386622071;pankkake;yeah it's quite expensive compared to specs 413549;1386622131;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 39 @ 0.05 = 1.95 BTC 413550;1386622147;pankkake;hmm it's usually $300 I think? 413551;1386622186;dub;lolol 413552;1386622190;benkay;i just bounced off the amazon page, so it's possible they just threw me a bogus rate 413553;1386622198;dub;If you perfer warm inter-personal dialogues 413554;1386622200;benkay;in any event, i think i'll just use a pi. 413555;1386622236;dub;man up and x220 413556;1386622255;pankkake;http://www.tekmote.nl/epages/61504599.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/61504599/Categories/%22Lemote%20linux%20PC%20and%20Linux%20laptops%22 413557;1386622257;ozbot;Lemote linux PC and Linux laptops - Tekmote Electronics 413558;1386622279;KRS|Gotyawallet;I never tried it but I think chromebook+linux ftw..heard stuffs about that combo 413559;1386622291;benkay;yeah i'm targeting like 200 bucks 413560;1386622305;benkay;not precisely a powerhouse machine. 413561;1386622307;dub;gtfo 413562;1386622314;benkay;yourself! 413563;1386622323;dub;this is AAAAAASSETSSS 413564;1386622323;KRS|Gotyawallet;acer C7 $179 413565;1386622377;benkay;i'd like a maserati to sign transactions, please. 413566;1386622396;benkay;maybe when btc clears a couple MM each i'll drop the frugality. 413567;1386622415;mike_c;http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8279447&CatId=4936 413568;1386622416;dub;shit car 413569;1386622416;ozbot;Dell Latitude D620 Notebook PC - Intel Core Duo 1.8GHz, 2GB DDR2, 80GB HDD, Combo, 14.1 WXGA, Window 413570;1386622422;KRS|Gotyawallet;im gonna get one for my ridge once my hifi gets shipped and installed..gonna do a mounted 8 or 10" display if I can- gonna do the OS myself so it comes up with the weather, news, navigation, music playlist, etc. even gonna have a sun and sky for daylight and moon and stars for night. its where i'm going to play audio for when i'm driving and what not 413571;1386622432;KRS|Gotyawallet;ridge=ride 413572;1386622508;benkay;you got too much time, homes. 413573;1386622553;KRS|Gotyawallet;for now yea..not gonna do much until jan or feb maybe taking a break 413574;1386622567;benkay;80gb 413575;1386622571;KRS|Gotyawallet;i only like to work 10 months a year or so 413576;1386622574;benkay;so it'll hold the blockchain for a few more months 413577;1386622587;benkay;do you roughneck or something? 413578;1386622593;KRS|Gotyawallet;naw IT 413579;1386622619;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.05 = 0.5 BTC 413580;1386622659;benkay;what kind of work are you jumping into and out of? 413581;1386622666;dub;can you even sync the blockchain without ssd now? 413582;1386622705;kakobrekla;i have seen it done 413583;1386622753;dub;!ssd and <3Ghz you're going to have a bad time 413584;1386622817;pankkake;use https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=145386.0 413585;1386622856;kakobrekla;conspiraci 413586;1386622863;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.05 = 0.75 BTC {2} 413587;1386622902;jurov;dub don't spread fud 413588;1386622923;jurov;i'm doing fine with celeron 837 and 72000rpm sata 413589;1386622936;jurov;bitcoind and litecoind at same time :D 413590;1386622941;jurov;*7200 413591;1386622943;jurov;heh 413592;1386622946;dub;when was the last time you resynced 413593;1386622953;kakobrekla;ltc solves this issue completley cause noone uses it and blockchain fits on a floppy 413594;1386622960;dub;^^ 413595;1386622967;jurov;few months ago.. but had to run -reindex recently 413596;1386622996;jurov;it managed in half a day 413597;1386623036;ThickAsThieves;lol, met with a new CPA, he's asking if I'd be interested in explaining bitcoin to all his rish buddies 413598;1386623043;ThickAsThieves;rich* 413599;1386623048;Diablo-D3;lol 413600;1386623158;thestringpuller;i need a separate drive to run bitcoin the block chain is like a fucking season of seinfeld 413601;1386623182;jurov;2.5G .litecoin 413602;1386623190;KRS|Gotyawallet;my CPA was interested but he shrugged it off as one of those things like bingobucks that the tacky Bizarre Mall that sells cheak knock-off stuff would sell you. 413603;1386623199;jurov;separate drive is best 413604;1386623209;KRS|Gotyawallet;I can't wait to bring him my statements from coinbase 413605;1386623279;jurov;oh, and also run freenet with 50G store there simultaneously 413606;1386623292;jurov;the hdd did not catch fire so far 413607;1386623294;jurov;:D 413608;1386623361;dub;wtf 413609;1386623377;dub;hos is ltc 2.5g when the only txns are to and from btc-e 413610;1386623384;dub;how* 413611;1386623434;ThickAsThieves;from all the mixing btc-e does 413612;1386623447;the20year;How goes it tat? 413613;1386623457;ThickAsThieves;it goes 413614;1386623495;the20year;are you involved in neobee? 413615;1386623576;ThickAsThieves;depends what you mean 413616;1386623700;dub;did you or did you not have sexual relations with that asset 413617;1386623713;truffles;lame 413618;1386623717;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24250 @ 0.00086281 = 20.9231 BTC [+] 413619;1386623756;ThickAsThieves;it was just the tip, it doesnt count 413620;1386623798;the20year;specifically if you were involved enough to share any insight whether to ukto will have any statements soon, there's a guy that wants to start the ball rolling with the SEC on bitcointalk 413621;1386623884;ThickAsThieves;While I am not privvy to the inner workings of the Ukyo situation, I find it amusing that people assume the SEC isn't already involved 413622;1386623909;the20year;my personal worry with the sec involvement is litigation or issue with issuers 413623;1386623947;jcpham;is ukto US? 413624;1386623951;jcpham;i thought he was aussie 413625;1386623964;ThickAsThieves;the20year, what's your lawyer have to say? 413626;1386623970;jcpham;why did i think that? 413627;1386623977;ThickAsThieves;ukyo is Texan 413628;1386623987;jcpham;so he's pirate then 413629;1386623987;ThickAsThieves;he has connections to Aus 413630;1386623991;jcpham;jesus fuck 413631;1386624007;jcpham;why did i think he was australian 413632;1386624011;truffles;idealists 413633;1386624016;ThickAsThieves;Graet is australian i think 413634;1386624016;the20year;He hasn't said a whole lot, other than issuing a PPM 413635;1386624021;the20year;yes, graet is 413636;1386624027;ThickAsThieves;and he's buds with Ukyo 413637;1386624030;dub;yes ukyo = pirate 413638;1386624030;truffles;they still think US is no.1 413639;1386624031;jcpham;i think it was a connection to graet is assumed 413640;1386624041;dub;or at least pirates retarded cousin 413641;1386624043;jcpham;i assumed some connection to graet that isn't true 413642;1386624047;jcpham;like i projected it 413643;1386624049;jcpham;wtf 413644;1386624055;the20year;His opinion is that the SEC is somewhat lenient, and that *if* there was an issue, that did not involve fraud it would be a somewhat easy fix 413645;1386624058;jcpham;i with dub 413646;1386624063;jcpham;we figured this out already 413647;1386624065;dub;graet is pretty fucking retarded too 413648;1386624070;dub;so it all fits 413649;1386624072;jcpham;didn't know about texas 413650;1386624088;jcpham;if florida is involved too you better know you've been scammed 413651;1386624108;ThickAsThieves;I'm in Florida, lol 413652;1386624115;dub;of course, the deathbylolipop connection 413653;1386624118;truffles;oh oh 413654;1386624119;jcpham;i'm sorry ThickAsThieves 413655;1386624123;jcpham;that's terrible news 413656;1386624127;dub;tat = deathbylolipop? 413657;1386624134;jcpham;possibly dub 413658;1386624134;ThickAsThieves;I'm not *from* FL mind you 413659;1386624136;the20year;So, right now i'm working out a (in my opinion) small fix to resolve legalities with US investors 413660;1386624144;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.05 = 0.2 BTC 413661;1386624150;ThickAsThieves;what is a deathbylolipop? 413662;1386624157;jcpham;ThickAsThieves, do you ever do youtube videos out of starbucks about "the bitcoin" 413663;1386624162;jcpham;and record your chest 413664;1386624164;dub;lurk moar brah 413665;1386624181;ThickAsThieves;Yes, I'm secretly a popular video blogger 413666;1386624185;ThickAsThieves;guess which one 413667;1386624190;jurov;;;later tell mircea_popescu how comes SPLIT|O.USD.C110T|5 made only 2 calls and 10 puts and not more? 413668;1386624190;gribble;The operation succeeded. 413669;1386624205;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.05 = 1 BTC 413670;1386624210;jurov;;;later tell mircea_popescu should be 10 times more now? 413671;1386624211;gribble;The operation succeeded. 413672;1386624283;jurov;^^ anyone has an idea ow to exploit above? 413673;1386624332;ThickAsThieves;exploit not getting what you should? 413674;1386624376;jurov;maybe they also forgot seomthing else where i can get more than i should >:D 413675;1386624401;dub;ThickAsThieves: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77845.0 413676;1386624420;ThickAsThieves;"a non profit advertisement company " 413677;1386624425;ThickAsThieves;it's lol already 413678;1386624430;dub;I can't find any youtubes of him 413679;1386624449;assbot;[MPEX] [O] [O.USD.P110T] 10 @ 0.0294237 = 0.2942 BTC 413680;1386624474;jurov;shorted at least these 413681;1386624511;dub;think he dereeted them 413682;1386624539;jurov;"OptionsCover":[{"":{"MPSIC":"O.USD.C110T", "Quantity":"20", "TotalSum":"250000000" 413683;1386624544;jurov;helluva cover there 413684;1386624618;jurov;oh it actually produced 20 calls 413685;1386624632;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.05 = 0.2 BTC 413686;1386624646;jurov;just the split message was wrong 413687;1386624665;mike_c;jurov, i decided you are wrong. you can lose more on a put than your collateral. i did the math and collateral only covers you for about a 50% drop. 413688;1386624751;jurov;i mostly wanted the calls 413689;1386624815;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29977 @ 0.00086547 = 25.9442 BTC [+] {2} 413690;1386624815;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34000008 BTC [-] 413691;1386624846;jurov;;;ticker --market btcavg 413692;1386624847;gribble;BitcoinAverage BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 882.88, Best ask: 886.25, Bid-ask spread: 3.37000, Last trade: 883.97, 24 hour volume: 116659.18, 24 hour low: None, 24 hour high: None, 24 hour vwap: 856.11 413693;1386624848;ThickAsThieves;where did all this mpoe volume come from 413694;1386624864;mike_c;like if i buy a put from you at 110, and the price drops to 5, you owe me (110/5) - 1 btc = 22btc 413695;1386624876;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 22 @ 0.34000003 = 7.48 BTC [-] {2} 413696;1386624884;jurov;what? 413697;1386624916;mike_c;when you write a put and sell it, you can lose more than your collateral. 413698;1386624955;jurov;really? on mpex? 413699;1386624971;mike_c;well, i don't know where the extra money comes from, but i assume from your account if you have it. 413700;1386624983;mike_c;you can be *liable* for more than your collateral to the option holder 413701;1386624990;mike_c;i don't know where the money comes from. 413702;1386625024;mike_c;unless i'm doing the math wrong, but i don't think i am. 413703;1386625030;jurov;i remember mircea handwaving it "if btc crashes so much it exhausts puts collateral, mpoe will just buy more if them" 413704;1386625038;jurov;*of 413705;1386625061;ThickAsThieves;what does that mean? 413706;1386625062;mike_c;i'd be curious what the rules are, whether it comes from the option writer's account first or mpoe 413707;1386625095;ThickAsThieves;Doctor Greg would be very upset! 413708;1386625114;mike_c;doctor greg is bad for my blood pressure. 413709;1386625120;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16658 @ 0.00086976 = 14.4885 BTC [+] 413710;1386625120;jurov;i read it as the exercises will be distributed evenly between mpoe and me 413711;1386625137;jurov;and if my collateral wont suffice, then it's up to mpoe 413712;1386625149;jurov;to fill up my part, too 413713;1386625181;mike_c;interesting. not a bad deal for the option writer. i don't really want to test it out though :) 413714;1386625253;mike_c;the other possibility would of course be that the option buyer just gets stiffed (like xdiff). 413715;1386625331;jurov;it heeds to go below ~ 300 $/BTC for P110T to yield 0.25btc 413716;1386625409;nubbins`;lel 413717;1386625411;nubbins`;http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/accused-in-quebec-gold-tax-scam-face-jail-and-750m-in-fines-1.2457169 413718;1386625412;ozbot;Accused in Quebec gold tax scam face jail and $750M in fines - Montreal - CBC News 413719;1386625414;nubbins`;kitco tax fraud 413720;1386625486;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.05 = 0.35 BTC 413721;1386625516;mike_c;;;calc (110/30.0)-1 413722;1386625517;gribble;2.66666666667 413723;1386625591;mike_c;significantly over collateral of (110/90.0) = 1.2 413724;1386625669;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.05 = 1 BTC 413725;1386625730;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29050 @ 0.00086976 = 25.2665 BTC [+] 413726;1386625958;JWU42;!seen Graet 413727;1386626340;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 50 @ 0.05 = 2.5 BTC 413728;1386626401;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.0031408 = 0.157 BTC [-] {3} 413729;1386626623;deadweasel;http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/put-a-satanic-monument-at-ok-capitol just for the lulz 413730;1386626624;ozbot;Put a Satanic Monument at OK Capitol | Indiegogo 413731;1386626950;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.05 = 0.75 BTC {2} 413732;1386627011;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 26 @ 0.05 = 1.3 BTC 413733;1386627459;thestringpuller;jurov: you still awake? 413734;1386627468;thestringpuller;or is it like the hour of sleep? 413735;1386627470;jurov;yes 413736;1386627475;thestringpuller;pm real quick 413737;1386627924;ThickAsThieves;;;bcstats 413738;1386627927;gribble;Current Blocks: 274035 | Current Difficulty: 7.074082830514966E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 274175 | Next Difficulty In: 140 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 18 hours, 40 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 899816443.08 | Estimated Percent Change: 27.19903 413739;1386627972;benkay;how do diff changes work? 413740;1386627979;benkay;1.27*7.07e8? 413741;1386628093;truffles;i did want to ask, why arent the chics in this chat? 413742;1386628098;ThickAsThieves;it takes the amount of time it took solve 2016 blocks and tries to even it 413743;1386628134;benkay;i do understand that much, ThickAsThieves. 413744;1386628137;ThickAsThieves;there are no chicks in the internet 413745;1386628145;ThickAsThieves;sorry 413746;1386628147;benkay;it's the parsing of the ;;bcstats output i'm curious about 413747;1386628166;benkay;so almost 9 million is the estimate? 413748;1386628171;ThickAsThieves;yep 413749;1386628174;benkay;dag 413750;1386628191;benkay;er 413751;1386628192;ThickAsThieves;well, 900m 413752;1386628194;benkay;900 million 413753;1386628203;truffles;TAT why not 413754;1386628203;benkay;looks like the bitbet bet has caught up with the obvious 413755;1386628214;ThickAsThieves;whats the obvious 413756;1386628235;benkay;that we'd hit 1b by year end 413757;1386628240;ThickAsThieves;not obvious 413758;1386628246;ThickAsThieves;but leaning that way 413759;1386628248;benkay;perhaps not 413760;1386628263;ThickAsThieves;there is only 1 more diff change this year 413761;1386628279;benkay;;;calc 899816443.08*1.2 413762;1386628280;gribble;1079779731.7 413763;1386628285;benkay;;;calc 899816443.08*1.15 413764;1386628286;gribble;1034788909.54 413765;1386628289;benkay;;;calc 899816443.08*1.1 413766;1386628289;gribble;989798087.388 413767;1386628294;ThickAsThieves;and it requires probly 900TH+ to be added in two week 413768;1386628297;ThickAsThieves;s 413769;1386628303;ThickAsThieves;this is possible 413770;1386628316;ThickAsThieves;but nothing to sniff at 413771;1386628353;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.05 = 0.5 BTC 413772;1386628414;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.05 = 0.3 BTC 413773;1386628442;ThickAsThieves;My bet on No is still unlikely to win, but if i do, lol 413774;1386628536;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 3023 @ 0.00286598 = 8.6639 BTC [-] {16} 413775;1386628658;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 318 @ 0.00284 = 0.9031 BTC [-] {5} 413776;1386628677;ThickAsThieves;We'll know by the 22nd 413777;1386628713;pankkake;or maybe sooner, but you would have lost :p 413778;1386629200;dub;http://www.dilbert.com/dyn/str_strip/000000000/00000000/0000000/200000/00000/6000/300/206398/206398.strip.gif 413779;1386629207;dub;asok = -assets newb 413780;1386629306;benkay;except that's mircea and he only touches women on their knees 413781;1386629348;KRS|Gotyawallet;I like women on their knees. 413782;1386629373;benkay;who doesn't!? 413783;1386629457;benkay;here you go dub 413784;1386629458;benkay;http://dinghyplansplus.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Dinghy-for-Sale.jpg 413785;1386629466;dub;Vexual in the house, hide your weed 413786;1386629512;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.05 = 0.25 BTC 413787;1386629559;KRS|Gotyawallet;Hidejo wife, hidejo kids.. 413788;1386629574;Vexual;http://www.kaiserboote.de/en/ 413789;1386629575;ozbot;Home | Kaiser Bootsmanufaktur 413790;1386629590;KRS|Gotyawallet;Hide yo wife: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzNhaLUT520 413791;1386629634;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [7C] 31 @ 0.0077 = 0.2387 BTC 413792;1386629675;dub;benkay: gonna be tough landing marlin in that but im up for a challenge 413793;1386629717;Vexual;u want fishing boat? 413794;1386629718;dub;in fact that may be smaller than my existing boat 413795;1386629721;benkay;those kaisers are sexxay 413796;1386629728;Vexual;oh yeah 413797;1386629756;dub;pointless 413798;1386629767;dub;thats like owning a maserati 413799;1386629786;Vexual;but only 100k euro 413800;1386629789;dub;pointless, slow and ugly 413801;1386629878;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 24 @ 0.05 = 1.2 BTC 413802;1386629881;benkay;signaling is never pointless. 413803;1386629898;jurov;does it spray pheromones? 413804;1386629935;benkay;pheromone chemtrails 413805;1386629939;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.05 = 1 BTC 413806;1386629968;Vexual;no pheremones required 413807;1386629986;benkay;'course, you're limited to the pussy that falls into the boat 413808;1386630001;Vexual;get the rotax and the jet, you can do 360s until your passengers are naked by gravity 413809;1386630088;KRS|Gotyawallet;60 ghash offline all day wtf 413810;1386630122;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 100 @ 0.05 = 5 BTC 413811;1386630123;dub;all those ppcoins you could have mined 413812;1386630128;dub;the hugemanity! 413813;1386630286;Vexual;dud theres some guys in new zealand that catch marlin off waverunners 413814;1386630325;Vexual;that takes some coconuts 413815;1386630366;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21400 @ 0.00086976 = 18.6129 BTC [+] 413816;1386630366;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 980 @ 0.0001125 = 0.1103 BTC [+] 413817;1386630367;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 465 @ 0.00049988 = 0.2324 BTC [+] 413818;1386630382;dub;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqVEvNocKTA 413819;1386630382;ozbot;300 Pound Marlin Tows Kayak 11 MILES - YouTube 413820;1386630415;Vexual;he must love that fishing rod 413821;1386630610;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1580 @ 0.000115 = 0.1817 BTC [+] 413822;1386630611;Vexual;shit he got it in the boat 413823;1386630671;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12823 @ 0.0008679 = 11.1291 BTC [-] 413824;1386630752;dub;boats? fuck boats http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lapJ4jjghFk 413825;1386630760;mike_c;ThickAsThieves: I'm curious what you think of http://bitbet.us/bet/645/bitcoin-difficulty-at-or-above-5b-before-june/ 413826;1386630865;ThickAsThieves;I think it's an interesting bet 413827;1386630867;Vexual;all the computers? 413828;1386630894;ThickAsThieves;An obvious Yes 413829;1386630914;dub;same dude http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=904hlyK5glQ 413830;1386630915;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23800 @ 0.00086601 = 20.611 BTC [-] 413831;1386630929;mike_c;34% a month for 6 months. seems close to me. 413832;1386630940;KRS|Gotyawallet;HAH!!!! I just got a phone call from "Windows Technical Support". Indian sounding person on the other line called to speak with me about my download file and they are "here to help". 413833;1386630941;mike_c;but i guess a lot of miners come out next year 413834;1386630948;KRS|Gotyawallet;They were trying to scam a scammer rofl 413835;1386630965;KRS|Gotyawallet;First time I got a call like that, I've heard about them. 413836;1386630973;ThickAsThieves;by next spring itll be PH shipments 413837;1386631014;mike_c;production delays could make it interesting. 413838;1386631034;ThickAsThieves;yeah, I think this winter will be the last of that kinda thing 413839;1386631037;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 21 @ 0.05 = 1.05 BTC {2} 413840;1386631043;ThickAsThieves;come spring itll be srs bzns 413841;1386631058;Vexual;friedcats doing shipping containers huh? 413842;1386631074;ThickAsThieves;we have the technology! 413843;1386631391;Vexual;you could burn diesel at those power rates 413844;1386631417;Apocalyptic;" friedcats" there is more of them now ? 413845;1386631448;Vexual;apostophe implied 413846;1386631702;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIs-K3kUUZg 413847;1386631703;ozbot;Krusty the Clown mentions Bitcoin on the Simpsons - YouTube 413848;1386631742;dub;moon in 3-2- 413849;1386631860;KRS|Gotyawallet;So funny watching the rest of the world catch on 413850;1386632196;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.05 = 0.35 BTC 413851;1386632275;benkay;;;ticker --market btcavg 413852;1386632276;gribble;BitcoinAverage BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 892.92, Best ask: 895.71, Bid-ask spread: 2.79000, Last trade: 894.69, 24 hour volume: 105367.4, 24 hour low: None, 24 hour high: None, 24 hour vwap: 865.75 413853;1386632539;nubbins`;KRS|Gotyawallet: i get those calls all the time 413854;1386632551;nubbins`;longest i've been able to keep one of them on the phone is an hour :) 413855;1386632556;Vexual;http://www.care2.com/causes/why-73-5-million-of-pig-semen-will-be-flying-to-china.html 413856;1386632557;ozbot;Why $73.5 Million of Pig Semen Will Be Flying to China | Care2 Causes 413857;1386632575;Vexual;they get cross after an hour 413858;1386632604;nubbins`;they usually hang up within ten minutes 413859;1386632627;nubbins`;"now open your windows event viewer..." " holy shit, yeah, this thing is riddled with viruses! all i can see is warning signs!" 413860;1386632633;Vexual;i stay polite and have them swearinging and spitting by the end 413861;1386632636;nubbins`;"sir, you are not being serious with me" 413862;1386632696;Vexual;do all the steps then tell them its osx 413863;1386632933;benkay;in other news S.NSA missed its reporting deadline for November. 413864;1386632958;Vexual;Importing Pig Semen is Not a Sustainable Plan to Feed a Population. 413865;1386632977;KRS|Gotyawallet;Wtf..who doesnt need pig semen. 413866;1386633111;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.05 = 0.15 BTC 413867;1386633477;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 20 @ 0.08787663 = 1.7575 BTC [-] {10} 413868;1386633478;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 35 @ 0.05 = 1.75 BTC 413869;1386633599;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SMG] 1241 @ 0.00011003 = 0.1365 BTC [-] {6} 413870;1386633660;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1175 @ 0.0001158 = 0.1361 BTC [+] 413871;1386633661;dub;benkay: scam 413872;1386633747;dub;also http://trilema.com/2013/snsa-november-2013-statement/ 413873;1386633809;benkay;well i did wait until MP released the figures. 413874;1386634061;asciilifeform;benkay: S.NSA will be very boring, right up until it won't. 'nothing to see here, move along...' 413875;1386634133;benkay;Stanislav and Mircea, scamming in a tree 413876;1386634151;benkay;engine-eer-i-n-g 413877;1386634151;asciilifeform;gimmeallyermoney. there, done. 413878;1386634180;benkay;en-gin-ee-eer-i-n-g, would be better scansion 413879;1386634197;asciilifeform;my fave was the wag who asked, 'why aren't those cardanos hashing yet, hah' 413880;1386634244;benkay;they generate random numbers right? 413881;1386634246;benkay;make 'em hash... 413882;1386634262;asciilifeform;that's one piece. 413883;1386634303;benkay;how much less boring are you going to get? 413884;1386634321;asciilifeform;benkay: depends if you care for modern crypto or not. 413885;1386634346;benkay;i am always interested in better crypto 413886;1386634372;asciilifeform;or even if you just like the idea of a usb drive that can be irrevocably nuked with a button press in a second or so. 413887;1386634390;benkay;mmm 413888;1386634393;benkay;crunchy. 413889;1386634401;benkay;unusable? 413890;1386634408;asciilifeform;usable, but empty. 413891;1386634505;benkay;a feat! 413892;1386634526;asciilifeform;more of a feat than one might think at first. 413893;1386634542;benkay;that wasn't sarcasm. 413894;1386634563;benkay;but approval of a worthy goal! 413895;1386634610;asciilifeform;there are only two defences against 'rubber hose cryptoanalysis' - 1) don't be taken prisoner or 2) zap button. 413896;1386634649;truffles;if u die, is there any way to transfer the crypto to relatives?` 413897;1386634664;asciilifeform;sure, give them an unzapped unit. 413898;1386634678;jurov;no, usually you transfer relatives to crypt 413899;1386634683;truffles;i mean in general not ur new thing 413900;1386634684;benkay;encrypted to the cardano you also give them. 413901;1386634704;benkay;truffles: you leave a trail of hints to the passphrase in your will 413902;1386634705;asciilifeform;in general, whoever has the keys has the goods 413903;1386634733;benkay;'course, that opens you up to gov't seizure during intergenerational transfer. 413904;1386634759;asciilifeform;different problem, different tools. 413905;1386634800;jurov;you should give assets while you're still alive 413906;1386634803;truffles;guess ur idea asciilifeform solves this seizure possiblity 413907;1386634807;asciilifeform;in general, the time to do transfers is before you're on the gallows 413908;1386634819;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.00086601 = 6.4085 BTC [-] 413909;1386634826;asciilifeform;otherwise you'll be like Captain Kidd, throwing an enciphered map to the peanut gallery before the noose tightens 413910;1386634835;truffles;jurov some ppl will be oding before that time 413911;1386634886;asciilifeform;the whole reason we have the legends of buried treasures is: people who did not take care of their bequests properly. 413912;1386634906;asciilifeform;buried goodies tend to result from folks who got clobbered before they could dig them up. 413913;1386634947;asciilifeform;(or confide in someone as to where to dig) 413914;1386634956;benkay;m-of-n txns go a long way to addressing this thing 413915;1386635027;asciilifeform;there'll be tales of 'buried' btc one day. 413916;1386635055;truffles;if its value remains :p 413917;1386635056;asciilifeform;'didja hear, he took out an ad in the new york fishwrap one day in '11, every fifth letter...' 413918;1386635063;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9950 @ 0.00086651 = 8.6218 BTC [+] 413919;1386635124;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 49 @ 0.003 = 0.147 BTC [+] 413920;1386635185;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9010 @ 0.00086976 = 7.8365 BTC [+] 413921;1386635368;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34 BTC [-] 413922;1386635490;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4382 @ 0.00086976 = 3.8113 BTC [+] 413923;1386635551;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.05 = 0.5 BTC 413924;1386635734;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34 BTC [-] 413925;1386635795;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 250 @ 0.00049999 = 0.125 BTC [+] {2} 413926;1386635897;dub;thumb drive flash is packaged in thermite mixed with magnesium and a piezo igniter, self destruct mission impossible style? 413927;1386635911;Diablo-D3;lol. 413928;1386635920;asciilifeform;dub: nope, but you can make that one if you like. 413929;1386636006;asciilifeform;if you want physical zap, i recommend uv laser diode over a windowed eeprom. 413930;1386636034;Vexual;serial number zapped? 413931;1386636058;asciilifeform;Vexual: ? 413932;1386636069;Vexual;no serial number on memory? 413933;1386636137;asciilifeform;in cardano? key lives in its own chip 413934;1386636152;asciilifeform;nothing else kept there 413935;1386636188;Vexual;cool 413936;1386636188;asciilifeform;refer to the (admittedly slightly obsolete) spec on mp's site. 413937;1386636356;asciilifeform;pyros may be disappointed in cardano, nothing flammable there. 413938;1386636542;dub;probably best to steer away from things that can both circumvent USG spying ubiquity and casually blow up airplanes 413939;1386636552;jcpham;ron paul on cnn 413940;1386636557;jcpham;stumbling about bitcoin 413941;1386636566;kanzure;is there a stream? 413942;1386636603;jcpham;http://weplaylive.tv/live-news-stream/ 413943;1386636604;ozbot;We Play Live - CNN Live Stream 413944;1386637011;KRS|Gotyawallet;thanks for that link..i've been looking for a site like that too 413945;1386637076;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 3300 @ 0.00282257 = 9.3145 BTC [-] {16} 413946;1386637137;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00087153 = 7.6695 BTC [+] 413947;1386637137;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2000 @ 0.00280084 = 5.6017 BTC [-] {8} 413948;1386637259;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 625 @ 0.0028 = 1.75 BTC [-] 413949;1386637503;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 950 @ 0.00305995 = 2.907 BTC [+] {13} 413950;1386637564;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.05 = 0.25 BTC 413951;1386637572;deadweasel;;;ticker 413952;1386637572;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 931.1, Best ask: 934.5, Bid-ask spread: 3.40000, Last trade: 931.0, 24 hour volume: 27190.56044341, 24 hour low: 788.101, 24 hour high: 980.17661, 24 hour vwap: 892.6989 413953;1386637686;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.00087153 = 6.7979 BTC [+] 413954;1386637971;dub;so we should all trade some banjos in for bitcoin? 413955;1386638057;nubbins`;re: banjo 413956;1386638058;nubbins`;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeBcfjH9PaY 413957;1386638059;ozbot;Sufjan Stevens - He Woke Me Up Again - YouTube 413958;1386638216;kanzure;are the logs at http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/ available in plaintext or some downloadable form without html? 413959;1386638253;ThickAsThieves;I'll sell you a log for 1btc 413960;1386638258;nubbins`;not afaik, but it should be pretty simple to make a script that parses them 413961;1386638296;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15368 @ 0.00086982 = 13.3674 BTC [-] {3} 413962;1386638310;nubbins`;ThickAsThieves: http://imgur.com/jKIq0Rr 413963;1386638336;kanzure;nubbins`: who runs the server and would they be annoyed if i wget http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date={daterange} 413964;1386638342;kanzure;i mean wget -m -np 413965;1386638347;benkay;kakobrekla 413966;1386638347;kanzure;wait, no i don't mean -m 413967;1386638351;benkay;and doubtful 413968;1386638374;nubbins`;better double check those flags 413969;1386638378;nubbins`;and what benkay said 413970;1386638379;nubbins`;but who knows 413971;1386638395;nubbins`;looking for anything in particular, or just evidence? 413972;1386638402;ThickAsThieves;kako will destroy you for this 413973;1386638447;benkay;sheesh, ThickAsThieves, spread more fud whydoncha 413974;1386638451;kanzure;actually i am looking for a link dump 413975;1386638456;kanzure;and i figured i would have to do it myself 413976;1386638462;benkay;kanzure: see the "links only" checkbox? 413977;1386638465;nubbins`;^ 413978;1386638478;ThickAsThieves;tryna sell logs here, geez! 413979;1386638482;nubbins`;heh 413980;1386638494;kanzure;it's still one day per page and html. i'd rather just get the full logs since link parsing isn't a particular art. 413981;1386638497;kanzure;but thank you 413982;1386638506;kanzure;ThickAsThieves: i admire your business acumen in this matter 413983;1386638523;ThickAsThieves;price just went up then 413984;1386638530;kanzure;that only makes me want it more 413985;1386638539;nubbins`;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2C7mNr5WMjA 413986;1386638539;ozbot;The Log Song - Ren & Stimpy (Deadwood HoN) - YouTube 413987;1386638545;ThickAsThieves;i like the cut of your gib 413988;1386638558;ThickAsThieves;special discount off the new higher price 413989;1386638561;nubbins`;heh 413990;1386638618;kanzure;actually what i really want from the linkdump is to find wacky assets that i'm unaware of. xbond doesn't count. 413991;1386638633;ThickAsThieves;here 413992;1386638634;benkay;what about pif? 413993;1386638638;kanzure;pifwho? 413994;1386638639;ThickAsThieves;www.coinflow.co 413995;1386638641;pankkake;best performing security 413996;1386638647;ThickAsThieves;thats all the assets youd find that way 413997;1386638651;ThickAsThieves;and more 413998;1386638660;benkay;if only the coinflow mpex feeds worked still 413999;1386638667;ThickAsThieves;but there're more still 414000;1386638675;ThickAsThieves;on scammier exchanges 414001;1386638677;pankkake;kanzure: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=303653.0 414002;1386638696;pankkake;oh coinflow is up to date with havelock at least 414003;1386638709;pankkake;all other exchanges are broken or well closed 414004;1386638745;nubbins`;;;bc,stats 414005;1386638760;benkay;yes 414006;1386638761;gribble;Current Blocks: 274063 | Current Difficulty: 7.074082830514966E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 274175 | Next Difficulty In: 112 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 14 hours, 56 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None 414007;1386638761;kanzure;pif is funny, but it's not hitting the spot 414008;1386638763;benkay;mpex is broken 414009;1386638765;benkay;and also closed 414010;1386638790;ThickAsThieves;it's options bot is SO unpredictable 414011;1386638797;ThickAsThieves;its 414012;1386638801;benkay;gosh and the css on the mpex front page 414013;1386638811;benkay;TABLES!!1!? 414014;1386638829;ThickAsThieves;get Dreamweaver , noobs! 414015;1386638841;nubbins`;http://www.berkshirehathaway.com/ 414016;1386638842;ozbot;BERKSHIRE HATHAWAY INC. 414017;1386638854;ThickAsThieves;scam 414018;1386638857;benkay;now there's a website built with dreamweaver. 414019;1386638875;nubbins`;heh 414020;1386638902;ThickAsThieves;BH is down how many 100% compared to bitcoin? 414021;1386638907;ThickAsThieves;horrible performance 414022;1386638924;kakobrekla;the world has ended long time ago if you normalize to btc 414023;1386638924;nubbins`;honestly i think it was made in MS FrontPage 414024;1386638925;benkay;yeah 414025;1386638927;kanzure;is there just a lack of developers around or is shit like havelock making some sort of anti-hipstercash moral statement about sane html/css 414026;1386638949;ThickAsThieves;dont even get us started on the css! 414027;1386638958;kanzure;but complaining is like the one thing i do best 414028;1386638961;kanzure;don't take this away from me 414029;1386638965;kakobrekla;yes css could be in larger amount 414030;1386638966;ThickAsThieves;you ar ein the right place 414031;1386638968;benkay;havelock is channeling mpex on the 'design', but must make concessions to appease the investing masses. 414032;1386638976;benkay;moar css 414033;1386638985;benkay;someone go get the css jug and pour some on mpex 414034;1386639018;asciilifeform;you'll be thankful for the absent css, when you're driving your mpex via telex, from submarine. 414035;1386639028;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 99 @ 0.34990008 = 34.6401 BTC [+] {10} 414036;1386639040;kanzure;you know that copenhagen suborbitals guy goes to work every day in a submarine, so it probably happens 414037;1386639055;benkay;he takes the sub to work!? 414038;1386639060;kanzure;why not? 414039;1386639062;kakobrekla;asciilifeform it will be pigeons by then 414040;1386639070;benkay;diesel's fukkin expensive 414041;1386639078;benkay;and subs are fucking bricks w/r/t hydrodynamics 414042;1386639124;kanzure;i dunno if it was diesel 414043;1386639135;asciilifeform;point is, bandwidth is cheap, until it isn't. 414044;1386639157;benkay;we're just putting on a show for the newcomer, asciilifeform 414045;1386639159;asciilifeform;perhaps this wasn't mp's motivation in making the choice, but it is a fact nonetheless 414046;1386639170;kanzure;there should be a bot that dumps neobee every time cryptocyprus posts on reddit or bitcointalk, then buys after a few hours 414047;1386639173;benkay;mpex is a scam etc 414048;1386639186;benkay;write it, kanzure. 414049;1386639192;benkay;acquire all the satoshi. 414050;1386639211;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 692 @ 0.00297281 = 2.0572 BTC [-] {7} 414051;1386639213;kanzure;i'm sure there's more entertaining things to spend my time on 414052;1386639217;kanzure;like making angry comments on irc 414053;1386639221;pankkake;more subtle: sell when it's on reddit, buy when on bitcointalk 414054;1386639231;benkay;well are we trying to get rich or be entertained? 414055;1386639286;kanzure;pankkake: any reason why? 414056;1386639392;mod6;omg my hands are numb 414057;1386639417;mike_c;bandwith, telex, bullshit! if those are in short supply you can just download the homepage html. you don't need to download the css if you don't want. the browser just chooses to. 414058;1386639475;kanzure;benkay: dunno, wealth hasn't cured me of being a workaholic ( https://github.com/kanzure?tab=contributions ) 414059;1386639478;kakobrekla;but it takes precious bits to make up the line where the path to css to be ignored is defined 414060;1386639489;mike_c;hah. that is true. 414061;1386639552;pankkake;havecocks is surprisingly usable without css! good job 414062;1386639602;pankkake;kanzure: hehe. I'll probably keep coding, or code more, when I'm rich 414063;1386639666;truffles;ud be greed or lazi at that point 414064;1386639674;kanzure;there's diminishing returns on coding versus paying other people. delegation is weird. 414065;1386639676;truffles;greedy 414066;1386639678;pankkake;I've always been lazy 414067;1386639682;benkay;how'd you get so rich, kanzure? 414068;1386639717;kanzure;benkay: a mix of a lot of stupid things out of my control, but also i do software contracting 414069;1386639792;benkay;mmm dat brain for hire hustle 414070;1386639815;kanzure;is that a question? 414071;1386639836;benkay;oh no, i typically actually use question marks to indicate that sort of thing. 414072;1386639850;truffles;i dont 414073;1386639868;kanzure;truffles: is *that* a question? 414074;1386639876;truffles;nope 414075;1386639899;truffles;hustle implies something im sure u know 414076;1386639938;truffles;if ure rich its off the backs of some1 else imo 414077;1386639940;truffles;0 414078;1386639960;benkay;all wealth is extraction from others, truffles. 414079;1386639973;benkay;some people mourn the downtrodden 414080;1386639985;benkay;others scramble up the huge-manatee pile 414081;1386639987;truffles;ya some take lots more than others 414082;1386640011;benkay;the ratio is invariant. 414083;1386640017;kanzure;insert cliche statement here about wealth creation 414084;1386640040;benkay;well gosh as soon as we have nano fabbers we'll all be able to fart around in vr porn jungles all day! 414085;1386640050;kanzure;what a coincidence, i can sell you that 414086;1386640054;kanzure;https://github.com/kanzure/nanoengineer 414087;1386640070;kanzure;ahh fucking broken images 414088;1386640078;asciilifeform;kanzure: wake us up when there's something to attach it to 414089;1386640089;benkay;dat hard vacuum 414090;1386640090;benkay;no em 414091;1386640098;benkay;impossible magic fab requirements 414092;1386640119;kanzure;not all of it is impossible, atomic force microscopes can definitely tap single atoms in certain situations 414093;1386640144;kanzure;but the different toolsets (like for hydrogen removal or addition) don't work yet 414094;1386640149;asciilifeform;if i ever strike lucky, i'll write 'fairycad.' create magical gadgets, just need pixie dust fabricator. 414095;1386640160;KRS|Gotyawallet;vacuums suck 414096;1386640177;benkay;nature abhors a dyson 414097;1386640209;kanzure;that would be funnier if dyson actually worked on vacuums 414098;1386640218;kanzure;or if everyone hated, say, esther dyson 414099;1386640240;benkay;kanzure man 414100;1386640249;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17950 @ 0.000867 = 15.5627 BTC [-] {3} 414101;1386640250;benkay;i see vacuums at dyson.com 414102;1386640270;benkay;it's not a pun for your ultrageek, mkay? 414103;1386640279;asciilifeform;dyson, then tesla... when do we get 'heaviside corp.' and what will it make? high-tech nano fridge magnets? 414104;1386640283;kanzure;no reason a pun can't be multiple layers 414105;1386640294;kanzure;asciilifeform: well, there's zyvex if that counts? 414106;1386640317;kanzure;see http://zyvex.com/ 414107;1386640326;asciilifeform;re: nanotech, the whole story: 414108;1386640337;asciilifeform;in the 3rd world, they 'know what to do' with oil pipelines 414109;1386640347;asciilifeform;villagers line up, with buckets, and collect oil that 'accidentally' leaks 414110;1386640360;asciilifeform;(they of course remember to bring augers, if it doesn't 'accident' that day) 414111;1386640369;asciilifeform;sometimes the whole thing catches fire in a glorious inferno 414112;1386640382;asciilifeform;this is nanotech (and silicon valley crapfest in general) 414113;1386640395;asciilifeform;rich americans must be parted from their dough, so bright chaps line up 414114;1386640408;asciilifeform;and we get 'nanotech', 'private manned space', etc 414115;1386640481;asciilifeform;or 'find which lolcat you are from yer genome' 414116;1386640489;kanzure;wow the lower limit is only $200k on http://bitcointrust.co/ 414117;1386640520;kakobrekla;nice css 414118;1386640535;kanzure;oh nevermind, i guess that's a regular accredited investor definition 414119;1386640623;benkay;there's also a bitcoin forex fund, kanzure 414120;1386640632;benkay;50 butt minimum buyin 414121;1386640690;asciilifeform;the folks selling literal golden toilets to arabian royalty make the same kind of money 414122;1386640719;benkay;i really want to pop down several MM for a parabolic whee 414123;1386640728;asciilifeform;but at least they don't pollute academia with pixie dust and lead netgeeks on with nonsense science... 414124;1386640732;benkay;dollars per minute you just can't buy better bragging rights? 414125;1386640783;kanzure;heh their assets are 63858 btc i wonder when they acquired that 414126;1386640789;kanzure;benkay: where is it? 414127;1386640794;kanzure;benkay: sorry, i mean the bitcoin forex fund 414128;1386640818;benkay;it has a truly immemorable name :( 414129;1386640838;kanzure;but i asked where, not what it was named 414130;1386640848;pankkake;http://bit4x.com/panacea.html 414131;1386640849;ozbot;PANACEA - Bitcoin denominated hedge fund 414132;1386640851;benkay;in the republic of cryptopia 414133;1386640862;kanzure;do i get a passport 414134;1386640889;benkay;it's pretty easy on computers with functional rngs 414135;1386640894;benkay;gpg derp me a keypair 414136;1386640926;benkay;all kidding aside 414137;1386640930;benkay;bitcoin is your wallet 414138;1386640935;benkay;and urbit will be your reputation 414139;1386640954;benkay;ya heard, mircea_popescu? wot is not the endgame of reputation. 414140;1386641179;pankkake;u wot? 414141;1386641229;benkay;wat 414142;1386641499;kakobrekla;wit 414143;1386641543;dub;wut 414144;1386641565;truffles;win 414145;1386641569;kakobrekla;wet 414146;1386641572;kakobrekla;. 414147;1386641590;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9982 @ 0.0008697 = 8.6813 BTC [+] {2} 414148;1386641596;benkay;werd. 414149;1386641640;benkay;mpoe bouncing hard off that 8700 line 414150;1386641711;pankkake;it won't go over 9000 414151;1386641791;benkay;the dark secret of -assets 414152;1386641803;benkay;mpoe will never be over 9000 414153;1386641818;benkay;secret popescu sell wall 414154;1386641976;BingoBoingo;benkay: Is a huge Popescu sell wall a bad thing if he wants to constrain the price MPOE shares trade at to reflect the relative value of MPOE and not possess the volatility of whatever the week's altcoin is? 414155;1386642010;benkay;when did people start asking my opinion about things wtf 414156;1386642026;truffles;lurk moar 414157;1386642049;benkay;BingoBoingo: i see your rhetorical question and raise it a straight-man response 414158;1386642137;BingoBoingo;Actually benkay I don't really see a sell wall looking at the orderbook, there is a substantial bid wall at 0.00077250 though 414159;1386642157;mike_c;of course you don't see it, that's what makes it a secret wall 414160;1386642157;kakobrekla;thats why its called sekrit 414161;1386642160;kakobrekla;heh 414162;1386642191;benkay;mah niggas 414163;1386642200;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13250 @ 0.00087129 = 11.5446 BTC [+] {2} 414164;1386642215;KRS|Gotyawallet;worrd up 414165;1386642263;benkay;mpoe to the moon 414166;1386642269;benkay;benkay to the pad thai shop 414167;1386642293;KRS|Gotyawallet;hand to the mothafuckn fap 414168;1386643080;mircea_popescu;pankkake so why would i/anyone gas ? 414169;1386643114;pankkake;what does gas mean? fart? 414170;1386643143;mircea_popescu;give a shit 414171;1386643145;mircea_popescu;but yeah. 414172;1386643167;pankkake;oh the link? cause it was about icbit 414173;1386643220;mircea_popescu;that guy's a total dork. 414174;1386643234;mircea_popescu;i mean yea he doesn't know it, but then again when do they ever. 414175;1386643261;dub;jumping jack flash is a gas gas gas? 414176;1386643306;mircea_popescu;dub http://199.101.98.242/media/shots/86831-Jumping_Jack_(1983)(Imagine_Software)-2.jpeg 414177;1386643406;dub;needs moar .swf 414178;1386643481;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.35489899 = 0.7098 BTC [+] {2} 414179;1386643542;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.355 = 1.065 BTC [+] 414180;1386643603;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 98 @ 0.0033695 = 0.3302 BTC [+] {4} 414181;1386643995;mircea_popescu;o wow look at mpoe go. 414182;1386644092;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13400 @ 0.00087217 = 11.6871 BTC [+] {3} 414183;1386644215;mircea_popescu;!t m s.mpoe 414184;1386644215;assbot;[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00084687 / 0.00086405 / 0.00087729 (1083655 shares, 936.33 BTC), 7D: 0.00078101 / 0.00083019 / 0.00087729 (2139000 shares, 1,775.79 BTC), 30D: 0.0007725 / 0.00082007 / 0.00088553 (6729476 shares, 5,518.65 BTC) 414185;1386644294;mircea_popescu;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=358242.0;all 414186;1386644295;mircea_popescu;lawl. 414187;1386644296;ozbot;Next generation 14nm mining grid 414188;1386644371;benkay;mining on phones 414189;1386644375;benkay;fartups and their crapps. 414190;1386644444;dub;https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BbD8_ZcCYAAOCrA.jpg 414191;1386644492;benkay;daww bucky 414192;1386644516;Duffer1;how very optimistic dub, sounds like a nice dream to have 414193;1386644517;pankkake;mircea_popescu: this one ended well at least… 414194;1386644518;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11318 @ 0.00087086 = 9.8564 BTC [-] 414195;1386644535;mircea_popescu;so far. 414196;1386644537;pankkake;actually I saw another thread get deleted at OP request 414197;1386644580;pankkake;so, something's working 414198;1386644585;Vexual;bluetooth gold detector coil might allow some amount of mining with a phone 414199;1386644611;assbot;Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1498486/plain/) 414200;1386644611;benkay;!b 1 414201;1386644615;Vexual;put em in your shoes 414202;1386644705;KRS|Gotyawallet;put it in your mouth 414203;1386644720;Vexual;dejavu 414204;1386644748;nubbins`;hm 414205;1386644762;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6135 @ 0.0008697 = 5.3356 BTC [-] 414206;1386644775;nubbins`;so... they invented a way to make your phone really really hot all the time? 414207;1386644817;benkay;"invented" is generous. 414208;1386644838;nubbins`;hm, you've got a point there 414209;1386644839;mircea_popescu;lol good one Vexual 414210;1386644867;mircea_popescu;nubbins` i wouldn't really hold it against them, buncha people find out about bitcoin 3 years later, figure they're hot shit, jump in both feet 414211;1386644872;mircea_popescu;cause young and brash 414212;1386644879;mircea_popescu;get laughed at, perhaps learn better. 414213;1386644885;mircea_popescu;no crime so far, just a little lulz. 414214;1386644958;assbot;Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1498487/plain/) 414215;1386644958;benkay;!b 4 414216;1386644971;benkay;that one could be darn educational. 414217;1386644984;nubbins`;i was looking forward to having a hand-warmer app 414218;1386644985;mircea_popescu;lol benkay is on a broll. 414219;1386645002;mircea_popescu;nubbins` if it also vibrates it's almost like the penis phone. 414220;1386645021;Vexual;hot and making money 414221;1386645026;nubbins`;http://futureimag.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/f2c9_bluetooth_handset_gloves_inuse.jpg?w=440&h=240&crop=1 414222;1386645036;nubbins`;filename says all 414223;1386645060;Vexual;hi-fun 414224;1386645066;nubbins`;right? 414225;1386645067;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.05 = 0.5 BTC 414226;1386645075;nubbins`;top of cool 414227;1386645077;mircea_popescu;o look, saving animals ? 414228;1386645088;kanzure;that's not quite what peta does 414229;1386645094;nubbins`;^ lel 414230;1386645096;Vexual;chicks could have glue on bluetooth nails 414231;1386645100;nubbins`;not quite 414232;1386645104;kanzure;well, most animals end up dead from peta 414233;1386645104;mircea_popescu;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=362400 << this shit's too good. 414234;1386645105;nubbins`;vexual is thinking 414235;1386645106;ozbot;[IPO] Established Business With Long Term Earnings -Huge Returns For Early Birds 414236;1386645110;benkay;i'm not interested in phone technology any more until you bolt it into my aural nerves and optical nerves or give me an aux display channel irectly into my brain 414237;1386645117;mircea_popescu;kanzure yeah i was being "ironic". i know what you mean. 414238;1386645137;Duffer1;ya crumbs can be fairly entertaining 414239;1386645139;mircea_popescu;benkay hash while you sleep 414240;1386645144;mircea_popescu;even better, hash while you smoke. 414241;1386645147;kanzure;huh? you were being ironic about peta the fund and compared it to peta the org, but the org doesn't save animals 414242;1386645149;Vexual;ben10, you can get audio thru jaw 414243;1386645162;mircea_popescu;i was mocking the peta org, which pretends to be saving animals. 414244;1386645167;kanzure;i see i see 414245;1386645169;mircea_popescu;sometimes i get layered. 414246;1386645172;kanzure;saving them as much as the fund i guess 414247;1386645181;Duffer1;peta is amazing 414248;1386645181;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 414249;1386645194;Duffer1;they're really good at getting actresses topless 414250;1386645198;nubbins`;kanzure: +1 414251;1386645199;nubbins`;leel 414252;1386645205;Vexual;peta is one of those charities that only exists to provide work for themselves? 414253;1386645207;mircea_popescu;so earlier i was with some amazing chicks and i thought they were pretty good company. 414254;1386645207;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 414255;1386645210;mircea_popescu;yup. 414256;1386645215;nubbins`;HA 414257;1386645215;Duffer1;i support topless actresses 414258;1386645245;mircea_popescu;Vexual they're at least in part fucking weirdos who oppose animal ownership out of some sort of fury mental issues. 414259;1386645285;Vexual;these minxes were dead when i got here 414260;1386645326;mircea_popescu;since we're discussing peta : http://trilema.com/2012/in-atentia-igppa-autodenunt/ 414261;1386645330;mircea_popescu;(warning : bunny gore) 414262;1386645368;kanzure;"warning: bunny gore" is assumed because irc 414263;1386645383;benkay;the entire american left doesn't get two fundamental things about how the world is structured: people are animals too, and all must be "husbanded" in the classic sense of the term. 414264;1386645384;Vexual;worth translating? any recipies? 414265;1386645416;mircea_popescu;Vexual i think most of trilema is worth google translating because of the sheer humor value of the results. 414266;1386645432;mircea_popescu;my english is fucking tense. my romanian is a lot tenser than that, and it throws it for an infinity of loops. 414267;1386645444;Vexual;lol no doubt 414268;1386645464;Vexual;i don't know if i can concentrate, now im thinking of rabbit for dinner 414269;1386645465;benkay;tense? 414270;1386645489;mircea_popescu;tense. 414271;1386645494;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.355 = 2.485 BTC [+] 414272;1386645527;mircea_popescu;it's a concept from text analysis, roughly equivalent to "the length in lines of the code that can parse this" 414273;1386645555;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.35502009 = 1.7751 BTC [+] {2} 414274;1386645583;Vexual;im under no pretense 414275;1386645632;benkay;crazy how closely the wordform looks like terse 414276;1386645644;mircea_popescu;hehehe 414277;1386645646;pankkake;I've tried googletranslating some trilema article, not good results 414278;1386645669;pankkake;most of the English article already give a desire to TL;DR them 414279;1386645677;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.36142 = 0.7228 BTC [+] 414280;1386645734;Vexual;rabit or duck? 414281;1386645738;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00086711 = 7.9774 BTC [-] 414282;1386645748;pankkake;articles* 414283;1386645763;pankkake;the best animal to eat would probably be a rabbit/duck hybrid 414284;1386645764;mircea_popescu;you gotta learn patience young obi. 414285;1386645779;pankkake;well, I'd probably enjoy Trilema as a book 414286;1386645799;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5050 @ 0.00086705 = 4.3786 BTC [-] 414287;1386645818;Vexual;is there a book? 414288;1386645852;mircea_popescu;printed trilema would be something like 5k pages. 414289;1386645853;Vexual;id probably sit down with a dictionary and have a crack 414290;1386645861;nubbins`;it'd have to be a serial 414291;1386645884;nubbins`;maybe start off with a few anthologies to catch up 414292;1386645909;Vexual;you can't just print your blog and flog it as a book can you? 414293;1386645926;nubbins`;people have done worse 414294;1386645927;benkay;the nsa won't let you 414295;1386645950;Vexual;you wont get a review in the new yorker 414296;1386645956;nubbins`;see, the problem is the comments 414297;1386645972;nubbins`;you'd want to keep them, but what if you publish in the middle of a conversation? 414298;1386645978;Vexual;unless your blog was the inspiration for sex in the city or somelike 414299;1386646070;Vexual;anyone been in an airport and picked up the mandela fortune? 414300;1386646091;BingoBoingo;Vexual: Books are pretty much the 0.3 Stable version of Blogs. Graffiti was Blogging 0.2.x, Yelling in a field was blogging 0.0.x, yelling on street corner was blogging 0.1.x, etc 414301;1386646093;Vexual;im interested to know if shorting bitcoin got printed 414302;1386646109;mircea_popescu;nubbins` besides, suppose people start a convo later. 414303;1386646114;nubbins`;exactly 414304;1386646118;Vexual;yeah, im still on alpha 0.1 414305;1386646122;nubbins`;what are you gonna do, publish an addendum? 414306;1386646123;mircea_popescu;i've had articles published in 2011, large convo started in 2012 414307;1386646125;mircea_popescu;then again later etc. 414308;1386646137;mircea_popescu;i would guess this is why books are dead. 414309;1386646151;nubbins`;ah, they just go to bed at a more reasonable hour. 414310;1386646156;mircea_popescu;(speaking of which, http://trilema.com/2010/cartile-au-murit/ is a really great one) 414311;1386646237;benkay;the google translation farm just spun up 414312;1386646249;Vexual;lol 414313;1386646258;benkay;slowed irc down for a second 414314;1386646312;Vexual;mp loke putting his dick in googles ear 414315;1386646379;mircea_popescu;that i do. 414316;1386646593;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.36142 = 0.7228 BTC [+] 414317;1386646594;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20330 @ 0.00086705 = 17.6271 BTC [-] 414318;1386646604;Vexual;anything for peer review in a crypto journal re nsa dingle? 414319;1386646681;Vexual;good advertising 414320;1386646684;mircea_popescu;sure, who you got ? 414321;1386646721;Vexual;there must be some, ive no idea 414322;1386646739;mircea_popescu;well then in general sure. 414323;1386646757;Vexual;im sure you could spin some shit that would get accepted 414324;1386646984;Vexual;i think my local university may have a subscription to maths for idiots 414325;1386647037;Vexual;wait no, i think they have an engineering dept 414326;1386647133;Vexual;there might be some maths nerds with some sway at the library 414327;1386647141;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.36142 BTC [+] 414328;1386647207;Vexual;sneaking in an article without, how to make might be tricky, but mircea_popescue, so there 414329;1386647312;nubbins`;he's got you on a technicality there 414330;1386647356;mircea_popescu;who to the what nao ? 414331;1386647401;Vexual;dr mr popescue, thankyou for your submission, can you resubmit without the refrences to *insert random shit* 414332;1386647535;Vexual;dear journal of noone cares, *callous innuendo* no 414333;1386647541;mircea_popescu;lol 414334;1386647603;Vexual;i lold 414335;1386647711;Vexual;not quite as much as when you casually injected the phrase "no homo" into a conversation with a disgruntled casino patron 414336;1386647720;Vexual;that fucked up a kayboard 414337;1386647727;pankkake;what about non peer-review scientific whatever? 414338;1386647753;pankkake;send free copies to some magazines or websites 414339;1386647980;mircea_popescu;so far assembly is a bitch, paying customers will get first ones. 414340;1386647995;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10370 @ 0.00086833 = 9.0046 BTC [+] {4} 414341;1386648000;pankkake;DELAYS 414342;1386648083;benkay;ATOMS ARE HARD 414343;1386648103;asciilifeform;benkay: '...let's go shopping.' 414344;1386648135;Vexual;send some to https://pressfreedomfoundation.org/ freebies to here good 414345;1386648153;benkay;asciilifeform: sorry, not parsing. 414346;1386648170;BingoBoingo;The trendy thing Vexual is the subset of "Open Access Journals" that take their business model from spamblogs (not that all OA Journals do this) 414347;1386648193;asciilifeform;http://www.nytimes.com/1992/10/21/business/company-news-mattel-says-it-erred-teen-talk-barbie-turns-silent-on-math.html 414348;1386648194;ozbot;COMPANY NEWS: Mattel Says It Erred; Teen Talk Barbie Turns Silent on Math - New York Times 414349;1386648239;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10397 @ 0.00087061 = 9.0517 BTC [+] 414350;1386648296;kanzure;ThickAsThieves: may i pm? 414351;1386648303;mircea_popescu;would have been better if they replaced it with "special interest group studies are pointless" 414352;1386648312;mircea_popescu;bonus points if barbie airquoted "studies" 414353;1386648320;Vexual;lol 414354;1386648330;asciilifeform;see also: http://www.nytimes.com/1993/12/31/us/while-barbie-talks-tough-g-i-joe-goes-shopping.html 414355;1386648337;pankkake;is there a slutty barbie? 414356;1386648389;Vexual;skeletor head barbie, she gets pretty wild 414357;1386648409;BingoBoingo;Checking the comments it seems this BitBet ought to stay open until the scheduled resolution. http://bitbet.us/bet/479/alabama-will-win-the-ncaa-football-championship-in/ 414358;1386648427;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo what's the rush anyway. 414359;1386648444;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: None. I'm hoping for the plane crash! 414360;1386648449;mircea_popescu;aww 414361;1386648454;BingoBoingo;Didn't hedge any on that one 414362;1386648482;mircea_popescu;https://www.google.com/search?q=thedrinkingrecord&complete=0 414363;1386648483;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.1590023 BTC [+] 414364;1386648485;mircea_popescu;o hey, check that out 414365;1386648500;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo is 90% safe to use. 414366;1386648533;BingoBoingo;I might have to work on that... 414367;1386648544;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.05 = 0.15 BTC 414368;1386648586;pankkake;first link is http://www.scamadviser.com/is-thedrinkingrecord.com-a-fake-site.html 414369;1386648596;asciilifeform;wtf is [PETE]? trades in cat skins? 414370;1386648601;asciilifeform;*PETA 414371;1386648651;pankkake;http://i.imgur.com/j8ikH4G.png cause bright red and that cross obviously means safe 414372;1386648656;BingoBoingo;pankkake: First result Google gives me is www.drunkard.com/issues/10_06/10_06_andre_giant.html 414373;1386648673;pankkake;well first result without stupid google autocorrect 414374;1386648691;asciilifeform;'safe to use.' invites the question, use for what. 414375;1386648692;mircea_popescu;pankkake it's ux, you don't understand such things 414376;1386648701;mircea_popescu;because being on irc and other reasons. 414377;1386648750;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo re the field tests : false positives are frequent. ask any obgyn, he'll confess about half the women that come on suspicion of being pregnant got a false positive pee test. 414378;1386648771;mircea_popescu;they're rare if you look from the other end, but if you look from the results end it's a different story. 414379;1386648801;mircea_popescu;it's not that the test is "faulty", it's that the people using it do not comprehend statistics. 414380;1386648810;pankkake;hehe. "UX" is like fedoras, the first sign of imposture 414381;1386648830;Apocalyptic;heh 414382;1386648832;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Of course. Sometimes though a little spotting in the panties at an unexpected time was merely nature's way of aborting a mistake. 414383;1386648923;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2010/statistica-resurselor-umane/ < this goes into excruciating detail. i should probably translate it 414384;1386648924;ozbot;Statistica resurselor umane pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 414385;1386648932;mircea_popescu;but i'm a lazy ass. 414386;1386648965;BingoBoingo;Eh, I might make an effort at translating it. It's been a slow news week. 414387;1386649033;asciilifeform;that's straight out of undergrad statistics exam. 414388;1386649114;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform or slavegirl's minimal mathbook as it were. 414389;1386649142;mircea_popescu;it's a rare police officer that understands it however. 414390;1386649153;asciilifeform;this ought to be an actual publication. 414391;1386649177;mircea_popescu;it should be required reading in 10th grade for an hour 414392;1386649183;mircea_popescu;it or something very much like it. 414393;1386649212;mircea_popescu;comprehension of those two pages would cut out a large chunk of fraud perpetrated currently, both in politics and commerce. 414394;1386649251;asciilifeform;can't even begin to imagine how much nonsense would vapour away if people understood basic maths. 414395;1386649275;asciilifeform;see poul anderson's 'brainwave.' 414396;1386649276;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 300 @ 0.00338971 = 1.0169 BTC [+] {10} 414397;1386649292;mircea_popescu;right. 414398;1386649303;thestringpuller;unionize MPOE 414399;1386649328;asciilifeform;here we go. ftp://www.eteka.info/10000/61edf0a0aa0f9d0de6730758d5ef2c98.pdf 414400;1386649333;mircea_popescu;very much especially basic statistics tho 414401;1386649340;mircea_popescu;because it's so counterintuitive in unexpected points. 414402;1386649357;mircea_popescu;even otherwise "good" "scientists" with years of experience fuck up like children] 414403;1386649360;Vexual;thats why i dont interview 414404;1386649398;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00087463 = 9.3585 BTC [+] 414405;1386649410;mircea_popescu;take the most egregious, lowest hanging example : 9x% of all psychology studies are done on psych undergrads. 414406;1386649415;mircea_popescu;how can that be science then ? 414407;1386649433;mircea_popescu;what if nuclear physics was limited to nuclear physicists ? 414408;1386649457;mircea_popescu;"today we're putting joe in the fog chamber and throwing janet at him. 414409;1386649467;mircea_popescu;boy i hope we discover higgs' bruise!" 414410;1386649469;asciilifeform;funnily, they've almost pulled this off: 'string theory' 414411;1386649516;Vexual;its like god, if you need it you keep it, if you dont you dont 414412;1386649528;mircea_popescu;lol string theory 414413;1386649531;mircea_popescu;good one 414414;1386649622;Vexual;ameobic pattern learning becomes stats to explain why the former is wrong 414415;1386649640;pankkake;after all quantum physics is about their cats… 414416;1386649759;Vexual;im calling peta 414417;1386649774;pankkake;why do you think peta would mine? 414418;1386649798;mircea_popescu;peta digs cats see ? 414419;1386649829;pankkake;there was a pun inside 414420;1386649841;Vexual;now theres an unemployed spider who used to work for webcrawler 414421;1386649844;BingoBoingo;Maybe instead of lining with Mink furs, line with cat furs? 414422;1386649886;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3635 @ 0.00087286 = 3.1728 BTC [-] 414423;1386649979;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo wow, actually you have most of your work done for you 414424;1386649979;mircea_popescu;http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2005/01/27.html 414425;1386649979;ozbot;- Joel on Software 414426;1386649983;mircea_popescu;i had fogotten joel wrote it up 414427;1386650081;pankkake;funny thing is, to get that 1% recruiters look for already employed devs 414428;1386650116;Vexual;if i want a job, i arrive and start working, negotiate the rate after 414429;1386650140;mircea_popescu;Vexual and if you get horny you arrive and start pumping ? 414430;1386650145;Vexual;i dont interview well but im goot at stuff 414431;1386650164;pankkake;good companies should have sexy secretaries to relieve stress 414432;1386650180;pankkake;sadly this is likely forbidden 414433;1386650181;Vexual;yeah mircea_popescue, it's kinda my way 414434;1386650200;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Shh... Some of Joel's other writings are going to be relevant to a post I'll have sometime in the next year. 414435;1386650218;BingoBoingo;Not that post, but some others. 414436;1386650240;Vexual;ill leave if asked, but the usual response is? where did you come from? 414437;1386650259;pankkake;so basically your blog is quoting trilema and spolsky. any actual content coming? :) 414438;1386650308;mircea_popescu;quoting is scholarship. 414439;1386650369;BingoBoingo;pankkake: I quote other things as well. 414440;1386650375;nubbins`;"quoting is scholarship." -mp 414441;1386650387;assbot;Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1498562/plain/) 414442;1386650387;nubbins`;!b 1 414443;1386650440;pankkake;hope so cause I read all of joel over and over 414444;1386650501;mircea_popescu;joel is pretty good. 414445;1386650556;pankkake;eh… well if all the "managers" read him the world would be a better place by far 414446;1386650557;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00087463 = 5.1603 BTC [+] 414447;1386650599;Vexual;whois the_dean 414448;1386650672;BingoBoingo;pankkake: Useful content takes time to write. So far the best example I have is the RealSolid/McxNow post where I dig through forums threads long considered dead. Actual original synthesis which quotes nothing while still being informative is rare, ThoughtCatalog reportedly is a dumping ground for essays that pretend to do that though. 414449;1386650747;pankkake;I should blog again. I read somewhere that blogging is a muscle 414450;1386650761;pankkake;I've had looooong inactivity periods and some bursts 414451;1386650771;pankkake;perhaps blogging would be better than forum threads 414452;1386650781;Duffer1;BB link 414453;1386650783;Duffer1;? 414454;1386650788;Duffer1;i'd like to read that 414455;1386650848;benkay;i like writing but i dislike blogging. 414456;1386650865;Vexual;yeah its called a website, not a blog 414457;1386650873;BingoBoingo;pankkake: It couldn't hurt. I mean the more you've blogged the more you can link and stop repeating yourself. 414458;1386650913;Vexual;im happy thinking that the coiner of blog is a sad sack now 414459;1386650935;pankkake;I've been doing a lot of "you should have invested in PIF" 414460;1386650943;Vexual;fuckin with my venacular motherfucker 414461;1386650984;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10987 @ 0.00087496 = 9.6132 BTC [+] {2} 414462;1386650998;Vexual;that means something different in nyc pankakke 414463;1386651051;BingoBoingo;Maybe pankkake Write the long form prospectus for PIF on the blog. It seems at the moment though you are leaving out some small things you could do to make PIF even safer. 414464;1386651056;mircea_popescu;pif le chien d'aportement 414465;1386651068;pankkake;;;ud PIF 414466;1386651069;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pif | Pif is type of high grade marijuana that is identifiable by its distinct smell and excellent quality. Pif is not a particular strain but usually re... 414467;1386651069;ozbot;Urban Dictionary: pif 414468;1386651078;pankkake;oh. 414469;1386651086;pankkake;PIF the communist dog 414470;1386651116;Vexual;uptown haze 414471;1386651136;mircea_popescu;just socialist. 414472;1386651155;pankkake;well it was from the French Communist Party 414473;1386651161;Vexual;yeah its cubanm 414474;1386651222;mircea_popescu;i guess l'humanite etc 414475;1386651250;mircea_popescu;in fairness it was a lot tamer than most of the bs presented as centrist today. 414476;1386651293;mircea_popescu;fun fact : i think i still have somewhere ~50 inches of full edition pifs, from about 65 to about 78 414477;1386651304;mircea_popescu;in year bindings, 414478;1386651354;pankkake;pif gadget, at least before their reissuance, wasn't really preachy 414479;1386651355;Vexual;u got a passport pankakke? 414480;1386651361;pankkake;yes 414481;1386651367;Vexual;wanna go cuba? 414482;1386651372;pankkake;nope 414483;1386651395;pankkake;those editions should be worth a lot 414484;1386651398;BingoBoingo;Passports are a liability. Better to be an undocumented native whereever you get discovered. 414485;1386651437;pankkake;I don't think my spanish would be credible 414486;1386651456;Vexual;im hoping english floats 414487;1386651547;Vexual;just learn sorry my friend is drunk we need a taxi 414488;1386651655;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.05 = 0.25 BTC 414489;1386651672;Vexual;best chatup line ver 414490;1386651793;mircea_popescu;just learn sorry my friend is drunk we need a taxi = hola yo necesito muchas albondigalitas. donde esta la zapatoria ? 414491;1386651816;mircea_popescu;if they answer with "is your hovercraft full of eels ?" you're golden. 414492;1386651833;Vexual;oh do come with mp 414493;1386651862;Vexual;ill carry eels just in case 414494;1386651921;Vexual;donde este hovercraft? 414495;1386651941;pankkake;vamos a la playa, mi corazon 414496;1386651944;Vexual;esta? esta 414497;1386651960;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.14500001 BTC [-] 414498;1386652008;mircea_popescu;donde esta el aerodeslizador. 414499;1386652010;Vexual;corazon? 414500;1386652018;BingoBoingo;Donde esta tu madre? 414501;1386652098;pankkake;corazon is that word that all spanish songs must have 414502;1386652129;pankkake;BingoBoingo: you forgot puta, alwas before madre. always 414503;1386652204;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16678 @ 0.00087178 = 14.5395 BTC [-] {2} 414504;1386652212;BingoBoingo;pankkake: Not always... Sometimes you suggest the other party Chengarse first and then you chenga tu madre 414505;1386652326;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.145 BTC [-] 414506;1386652498;pankkake;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg3901066#msg3901066 grilled cat update 414507;1386652500;ozbot;ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It 414508;1386652522;Vexual;esta hija viene conmigo 414509;1386652630;mircea_popescu;so 40nm 414510;1386652665;mircea_popescu;and apparently hecan't get bitcoin for dollars etc. 414511;1386652665;Vexual;sounds like a different friedcat 414512;1386652670;mircea_popescu;which is a rapidly worsening problem. 414513;1386652692;pankkake;40nm isn't news 414514;1386652694;KRS|Gotyawallet;wait and see what the swiss decision is on that 414515;1386652698;Vexual;if same friedcat he can get yan for bitcoin 414516;1386652705;KRS|Gotyawallet;we might all flock to sweden for swiss bank accts 414517;1386652748;BingoBoingo;Eh, on the optimistic side everyone advertising smaller nodes at this point hasn't shipped anything yet so he might actually have a better implementation at 40 nm. Still though mining is for suckers. 414518;1386652776;Vexual;are the power specs on target? 414519;1386652809;pankkake;bitfury is doing very well with its 40 414520;1386652829;Vexual;anyone re blades? 414521;1386652940;Vexual;firedcat holding fiat? 414522;1386652945;Vexual;fark 414523;1386652982;Vexual;oh i see 414524;1386652990;Vexual;what mp said 414525;1386653039;Vexual;who has he been talking to, his english has changed 414526;1386653047;BingoBoingo;Also imagine all of the drama 414527;1386653093;pankkake;probably not the same person 414528;1386653103;pankkake;not sure why people belive AM=one guy 414529;1386653105;Vexual;ty pankkake for rapid news 414530;1386653115;BingoBoingo;An AsicMiner collapse into ponzi alone if it happened tomorrow could probably give us $10,000 bitcoin simply because bitcoin is backed by drama 414531;1386653116;pankkake;thank pentadactyl 414532;1386653145;Vexual;ill thnbak you 414533;1386653168;pankkake;I hereby accept your thnbak 414534;1386653215;KRS|Gotyawallet;hah 414535;1386653222;KRS|Gotyawallet;In Satoshi's name, amen. 414536;1386653297;mircea_popescu;no homo : http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b8/Breznev-Honecker_1979.jpg 414537;1386653311;pankkake;Dear Satoshi, I ask you now to forgive me, I have sold coins am sorry, I repent, wash me Satoshi, make me brand new. Satoshi, be my savior, be my lord, and my very best friend. From this moment on, I am yours and you are mine. Come mine your coins through me. Amen. 414538;1386653319;pankkake;(from #bitcoin-church) 414539;1386653355;Vexual;europe much? 414540;1386653363;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG.F] 1 @ 0.49 BTC 414541;1386653382;lewicki;you sound like lorenzo 414542;1386653387;KRS|Gotyawallet;HAHA 414543;1386653402;KRS|Gotyawallet;lorenzomoney? 414544;1386653406;lewicki;yes 414545;1386653410;KRS|Gotyawallet;hah i know him 414546;1386653430;KRS|Gotyawallet;he's pretty funny met him at a starbux 414547;1386653460;lewicki;he drive up in a vespa? 414548;1386653468;KRS|Gotyawallet;idk what he drove in tbh 414549;1386653483;KRS|Gotyawallet;wanted to do some kind of project when i mentioned capital he got clammy 414550;1386653498;Vexual;lol 414551;1386653501;lewicki;porn 414552;1386653507;KRS|Gotyawallet;i guess people work for free these days 414553;1386653528;Vexual;its going around 414554;1386653568;Vexual;lorenzo from nwa? 414555;1386653586;BingoBoingo;You know, Bitcoin needs a solid "Where are they now" feature that covers people "media" found important in late 2012 and earlier that speaks to how irrelevant they are nao. 414556;1386653622;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo sounds like a good blogpost. 414557;1386653641;Apocalyptic;^^ 414558;1386653644;KRS|Gotyawallet;u know vexual? 414559;1386653646;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Might take some time, but probably more interesting than Dank 414560;1386653659;KRS|Gotyawallet;that music was the shit back then 414561;1386653671;Apocalyptic;I wonder where Vessenes is now 414562;1386653690;Vexual;if you ever see me in the pen, then it's me and lorenzo 414563;1386653691;BingoBoingo;And unlike Dank who I wrote off as uninsteresting early I've got some notes on Diabo-D3, Nefario, Thermos, et al 414564;1386653695;mircea_popescu;and with that, i bid you a very good night. 414565;1386653712;Vexual;ciao bella 414566;1386653736;KRS|Gotyawallet;nite 414567;1386653790;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1566 @ 0.00299997 = 4.698 BTC [-] {2} 414568;1386654034;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.16 BTC [+] 414569;1386654246;benkay;have dividends paid out? "Yes. But..." 414570;1386654275;benkay;i don't even track mining and that sounds retarded 414571;1386654334;thestringpuller;i stay icyhot these niggaz benkay 414572;1386654338;thestringpuller;- Tito Lopez 414573;1386654350;Vexual;hold cash save 1% good business 414574;1386654386;thestringpuller;so havelock is officially the new GLBSE? 414575;1386654395;thestringpuller;What are we at now GLBSE 5.0? 414576;1386654400;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12332 @ 0.00087499 = 10.7904 BTC [+] 414577;1386654415;Vexual;panama holding co aint no bullshit 414578;1386654433;benkay;meanwhile mpoe steamrolls up to 87500 414579;1386654445;thestringpuller;that's because btc price dropped 414580;1386654464;thestringpuller;everytime there is a rise in btc price usually people vacate their position in MPOE and sell off their profits 414581;1386654464;Vexual;and coz nelson mandela time cover sold more than ever, it's a bottstrap 414582;1386654464;benkay;WHY DOES THIS HAPPEN 414583;1386654497;pankkake;it's havecocks now 414584;1386654542;thestringpuller;it seems that MPOE will be worth holding a lot more when the btc price stabilizes 414585;1386654550;thestringpuller;MPOE rises with less volatility 414586;1386654645;Vexual;its more evident than anything else mpoe will exist in ten years 414587;1386654660;benkay;orly 414588;1386654674;thestringpuller;i think there will be more than just an MPOE bot 414589;1386654679;thestringpuller;in 10 years 414590;1386654686;Vexual;well fortune didnt say its a guy from romainia 414591;1386654698;pankkake;will there be more than MP sideprojects traded? 414592;1386654705;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.00340009 = 0.68 BTC [-] {2} 414593;1386654706;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.1445 BTC [-] 414594;1386654707;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.3524 = 1.762 BTC [-] {4} 414595;1386654712;thestringpuller;MPOE is the most reliable place to trade options imo 414596;1386654739;pankkake;but in 10 years the dollar will be dead 414597;1386654740;benkay;let's all calm down 414598;1386654745;benkay;mp's getting his dick sucked already 414599;1386654751;KRS|Gotyawallet;im next ok? 414600;1386654757;Vexual;thats when u need a commie kid rolling shit pankakke 414601;1386654764;thestringpuller;the only thing is that MPOE-bot isn't making any money in the long term 414602;1386654789;thestringpuller;all that has to occur is all the MPBOR peeps stop giving MP money to run MPOE 414603;1386654807;thestringpuller;then MPOE can't function unless MP gives it his own capital 414604;1386654809;pankkake;not sure who are those guys 414605;1386654813;pankkake;satoshi? 414606;1386654824;benkay;yeah wtf that's some crazy risk to eat 414607;1386654827;benkay;and why 414608;1386654829;Vexual;satoshi not interested in money left or right 414609;1386654838;thestringpuller;then who would it be? 414610;1386654852;benkay;it's smidge 414611;1386654852;thestringpuller;people who are willing to sacrifice a % of their wealth so that bitcoin doesn't plummet? 414612;1386654858;benkay;smidge funds mpbor 414613;1386654863;pankkake;I guess it's valuable 414614;1386654866;bloctoc;MPBOR peeps <-- what is that? 414615;1386654869;thestringpuller;isn't the realized gains some -123% 414616;1386654885;pankkake;but the temptation to freeride is great 414617;1386654896;thestringpuller;bloctoc: MPBOR is the bond MP uses to fund MPOE bot 414618;1386654919;thestringpuller;you send MP cash with an attached interest rate and that goes into the bond pool for a given options month 414619;1386654924;thestringpuller;etc. etc. 414620;1386654933;benkay;rolls over forever 414621;1386654955;Vexual;life 414622;1386654963;pankkake;I guess it's slightly better than 1BitcoinEater 414623;1386654974;thestringpuller;someone who's invested in MPBOR for MPOE's entire lifespan would have lost 113% of their original capital if they left it unhedged... 414624;1386654981;thestringpuller;123% 414625;1386654985;thestringpuller;* 414626;1386655005;benkay;maybe one hedges with the options 414627;1386655013;benkay;but still. insane! wtf! 414628;1386655057;benkay;insider trading on btc price i betcha 414629;1386655071;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.36080832 = 2.1648 BTC [+] {3} 414630;1386655086;benkay;i wonder if tiberiusxiv just went off the deep end imagining mpex conspiracies 414631;1386655095;benkay;or better! MP paid to have him driven insane. 414632;1386655095;bloctoc;all in one very bad month though right? then the bot was modified for the better for b holders. and 113% doesn't make sense. 414633;1386655131;thestringpuller;that's the realized gains though bloctoc over the lifespan of MPOE 414634;1386655132;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 31 @ 0.05 = 1.55 BTC 414635;1386655143;thestringpuller;it's probably the only valid point tiberius ever made 414636;1386655167;thestringpuller;but the service it provides to the bitcoin economy as a whole keeps the market from bottoming out 414637;1386655172;thestringpuller;MPOE-bot pays for our sins.... 414638;1386655197;pankkake;so it is the true bitcoin jesus 414639;1386655212;thestringpuller;i guess so 414640;1386655223;benkay;an implicit backing of the biterati 414641;1386655230;benkay;this is a story that should be spread 414642;1386655236;bloctoc;in theory yes, but I don't see many people using options in practice. 414643;1386655250;thestringpuller;how so bloctoc ? 414644;1386655255;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 594 @ 0.00345156 = 2.0502 BTC [+] {8} 414645;1386655291;bloctoc;I know I sound like I'm trolling, but I don't fully understand who is using mpex for options trading. seems like none is for the last several months 414646;1386655324;bloctoc;I don't understand the price rise over the last few days either. 414647;1386655332;thestringpuller;it's an anonymous exchange but I know I've seen at least 200 BTC worth of C050 414648;1386655340;thestringpuller;sold short to the bot 414649;1386655351;pankkake;http://trilema.com/2013/mpoe-november-2013-statement/ 414650;1386655351;ozbot;MPOE, November 2013 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 414651;1386655362;Vexual;sounds like a govenment to me 414652;1386655365;thestringpuller;so someone doesn't want the average price to go over 1100 414653;1386655376;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 70 @ 0.00349999 = 0.245 BTC [-] {2} 414654;1386655389;thestringpuller;immediately after there was large supply of BTC that flooded all the markets 414655;1386655421;benkay;this is the worst arg ever 414656;1386655430;thestringpuller;LOL 414657;1386655434;benkay;bitcoin is going to get me killed or something 414658;1386655449;Vexual;trust in satoshi 414659;1386655497;thestringpuller;satoshi is not in WoT, don't trust him 414660;1386655509;thestringpuller;;;gettrust satoshi 414661;1386655509;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user satoshi: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=thestringpuller&dest=satoshi | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=satoshi | Rated since: never 414662;1386655513;Vexual;he doesnt need you to 414663;1386655518;pankkake;I have a −1 on satoshi on the forum 414664;1386655561;pankkake;"created a currency without any economics background" 414665;1386655575;thestringpuller;satoshi is the government 414666;1386655595;thestringpuller;satoshi is the the bildebergersssss 414667;1386655603;thestringpuller;the reptilian moon people 414668;1386655613;benkay;satoshi is fnord 414669;1386655615;thestringpuller;the moon landing was faked 414670;1386655615;Vexual;satoshi is the rules of life, mp is the government 414671;1386655627;bloctoc;Still learning, but I don't see how one would sell short to the bot. I thought the bot did the selling. 414672;1386655644;benkay;buy calls! 414673;1386655646;thestringpuller;bloctoc: you use the command mkopt 414674;1386655651;benkay;or that 414675;1386655663;benkay;you too can underwrite options 414676;1386655669;thestringpuller;yup 414677;1386655680;bloctoc;so, buy calls would be the opposite of the mkopt command right? 414678;1386655681;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3609898 BTC [+] 414679;1386655682;thestringpuller;you underwrite an option then sell it to the bot who always has bids up 414680;1386655691;thestringpuller;yea 414681;1386655697;thestringpuller;buying an option is opposite of mkopt 414682;1386655704;bloctoc;Thanks gentlemen, I'm getting there. 414683;1386655730;benkay;gonna trade options? 414684;1386655732;thestringpuller;i wonder how much collateral that person needed 414685;1386655753;thestringpuller;;;calc 200 / 0.054 414686;1386655753;gribble;3703.7037037 414687;1386655761;thestringpuller;;;calc 3703 * .1 414688;1386655761;gribble;370.3 414689;1386655781;bloctoc;I might trade options with eulora dividends some day. 414690;1386655787;thestringpuller;LOL 414691;1386655793;benkay;you're long minigame? 414692;1386655809;bloctoc;since ipo 414693;1386655828;thestringpuller;there likely won't be operating revenue until 2015 though 414694;1386655847;bloctoc;hence the use of the phrase "some day" 414695;1386655848;benkay;i love how minigame and nsa have wildly different yield curves 414696;1386655860;benkay;nsa: probably some revenue in the near future. 414697;1386655875;thestringpuller;asciilifeform is goin hard on the Cardano 414698;1386655926;thestringpuller;benkay you are right though a company that isn't an MP side project needs to IPO on MPEx 414699;1386655928;benkay;minigame: not a lot of revenue now, maybe shitloads of revenue in the future, plus capital for spinoffs and low-investment games that bilk people of btc. 414700;1386655963;benkay;i'm noodling around with the idea of doing a depository, but it scares me shitliss. 414701;1386655966;benkay;shitless* 414702;1386655968;bloctoc;I am scared of security companies like Gordon Gekko is scared of airlines 414703;1386655988;thestringpuller;i don't think minigame will have a shitload of revenue, it'll have to build into it 414704;1386655989;benkay;explain yourself boctoc 414705;1386655997;benkay;bloctoc* 414706;1386656029;benkay;yeah. i'm just keeping my eye on it. i fire up the demo from time to time. 414707;1386656038;bloctoc;I think many many people come up with secure solutions that are great, but then nobody gives a shit enough to buy them. 414708;1386656063;bloctoc;same with games I guess 414709;1386656079;benkay;mp's theory is that he knows game design too 414710;1386656092;thestringpuller;yea but he doesn't? 414711;1386656102;benkay;skinner box is a skinner box 414712;1386656107;benkay;ain't much too it 414713;1386656126;benkay;to* 414714;1386656133;thestringpuller;games make money by being accessible to the fanbase 414715;1386656143;thestringpuller;that's why GTA V made some billion dollars in it's first weekend 414716;1386656151;Duffer1;popularity is no small factor either 414717;1386656162;thestringpuller;popularity is probably the only factor 414718;1386656176;thestringpuller;remember a show called Homocide Life on the Street? 414719;1386656181;thestringpuller;probably not because no one hearda bout it 414720;1386656195;thestringpuller;yet it was hailed as one of the greatest crime shows to ever air 414721;1386656198;Duffer1;never heard of it 414722;1386656204;thestringpuller;^ exactly 414723;1386656222;pankkake;by hipsters probably 414724;1386656231;Duffer1;i would have liked to see the MP asset fund a compatible Steam Greenlight project 414725;1386656272;Duffer1;building something around crypto could work sure, but imo the popularity won't be there 414726;1386656299;thestringpuller;even steam greenlight is iffy, you only get so much visibility 414727;1386656300;pankkake;unless it pulls a minecraft? (still don't get why that game is popular) 414728;1386656320;thestringpuller;minecraft was all timing 414729;1386656336;thestringpuller;it also had like what 0 overhead? 414730;1386656350;Duffer1;i meant find a project on greenlight that looks like it might work with crypto currency, negotiate to fund them 414731;1386656372;benkay;what do you mean timing, thestringpuller? 414732;1386656381;Duffer1;greenlight is almost a vc superstore 414733;1386656401;bloctoc;I assume that is still on the radar. I would be surprised if all the IPO needs to go towards development from scratch. 414734;1386656432;thestringpuller;Look at minecraft's history. It was designed as an infiniminer clone. The alpha was sold at like what 5-10 dollars. It hit the market right at a time when people wanted something of that immersive nature. 414735;1386656463;thestringpuller;It's like how G-Funk took over the hip hop world in the 90's. 414736;1386656492;Duffer1;oh baby you... got what i neeEEEEeed.. 414737;1386656512;KRS|Gotyawallet;idk what the big deal is other than they nailed the massive world nature of it..i never played it but watched videos 414738;1386656537;thestringpuller;it's fun for anyone who plays it, but mainly it's a game that literally gets children addicted 414739;1386656552;KRS|Gotyawallet;someone actually created a simple computer by making a machine that moved blocks around which add up to different values depending on the inputs 414740;1386656553;thestringpuller;which I think is how it became so popular 414741;1386656567;bloctoc;I'd like to see bitcoin based Grand Turismo for pink slips 414742;1386656573;thestringpuller;LOL 414743;1386656575;KRS|Gotyawallet;nice 414744;1386656636;Duffer1;cryptocurrency based Star Citizen pls 414745;1386656717;Duffer1;don't tell me you guys haven't heard of star citizen 414746;1386656733;pankkake;:( 414747;1386656733;bloctoc;I'm not much of a gamer. 414748;1386656740;Duffer1;>.< 414749;1386656754;Duffer1;it's eve, but good 414750;1386656759;pankkake;oh it's an *upcoming* game. it sounded like an old game 414751;1386656809;benkay;vaporware 414752;1386656833;thestringpuller;lol vaporware the game 414753;1386656841;benkay;what is so nominally special about the eulora economy again? 414754;1386656842;thestringpuller;how long can you fool your audience into thinking you have a product 414755;1386656860;thestringpuller;As MPOE-PR tried to argue with me: "There is no farming" 414756;1386656881;benkay;? 414757;1386656902;thestringpuller;Basically every item in the game that spawns, spawns according to how much cryptocurrency is funding the game. 414758;1386656932;benkay;can't be talking mkt cap of smg, tho 414759;1386656946;benkay;gotta be some other vehicle 414760;1386656961;thestringpuller;yea all the food items and such have to be purcahsed with BTC 414761;1386656993;Duffer1;i think project entropia tried something like that a long time ago 414762;1386657001;thestringpuller;yea they tried exactly that 414763;1386657007;thestringpuller;and it became a mix of second life and eve 414764;1386657019;Duffer1;but far less popular than either of those :P 414765;1386657051;thestringpuller;no gimmick or monetization strategy beats solid gameplay 414766;1386657063;thestringpuller;if the gameplay is fun, then people will play it 414767;1386657066;Duffer1;i'd like for an upcoming game to be virtual currency based, but i don't see how it can be that, and fun at the same time 414768;1386657075;thestringpuller;the game will become popular if it's easily accessible and the rest takes care of itself 414769;1386657109;Duffer1;unless the currency is an alt, centrally controlled by the game company... 414770;1386657129;thestringpuller;you could make a crypto currency game that is single player 414771;1386657135;thestringpuller;straight up arcade style dude 414772;1386657147;thestringpuller;you know how many quarters I put in the Ninja Turtles game 414773;1386657150;thestringpuller;the Simpsons Game 414774;1386657159;thestringpuller;and the XMen game 414775;1386657162;Vexual;i lost a fortune on tekken 414776;1386657192;benkay;huh now there is an excellent idea 414777;1386657208;benkay;"put a satoshi in, kid" 414778;1386657209;Duffer1;put in quarters payout winners in btc? 414779;1386657221;Vexual;take the skills to the arcade 414780;1386657231;benkay;payout what winners? 414781;1386657257;Duffer1;small incentive for beating the game, nm 414782;1386657267;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 66 @ 0.00299998 = 0.198 BTC [+] 414783;1386657325;benkay;oh even better you can exchange all your loot for some gameplay credits 414784;1386657371;benkay;but ever doth the timer decrement 414785;1386657376;benkay;and ever doth your gear wear out 414786;1386657389;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 334 @ 0.00297604 = 0.994 BTC [-] {2} 414787;1386657426;thestringpuller;they have btc atms 414788;1386657434;thestringpuller;why not an arcade machine converted to take btc 414789;1386657470;Vexual;ill play 414790;1386657477;Vexual;vex at top 414791;1386657480;thestringpuller;replace the ticket machines at chuck-e-cheese with btc 414792;1386657509;benkay;give the parents bitcoin wallets take dollars convert to btc, send btc back to parents new webwallet? 414793;1386657515;Vexual;ante on tekken 414794;1386657572;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8398 @ 0.00087544 = 7.3519 BTC [+] {2} 414795;1386657594;Vexual;winner takes all (actually 95%) 414796;1386657610;Duffer1;meh 414797;1386657617;Duffer1;are arcades still popular? 414798;1386657621;Vexual;kids love losing money at arcades 414799;1386657627;benkay;neopets 414800;1386657636;thestringpuller;modern consoles kinda made arcades a thing of the past 414801;1386657638;Vexual;tekken is still serious in sydney 414802;1386657638;benkay;rip off neopets and fund it with btc 414803;1386657642;thestringpuller;now they are jsut relics of hotels and resorts 414804;1386657683;thestringpuller;but you could probably create a pay to play single player web based game like gauntlet legends 414805;1386657687;thestringpuller;insert satoshi to play 414806;1386657695;Duffer1;erf 414807;1386657695;Vexual;tekken is two player 414808;1386657711;thestringpuller;tekken can be one player though no? 414809;1386657713;thestringpuller;with AI and stuff 414810;1386657717;thestringpuller;until CHALLENGER APPROACHES 414811;1386657732;thestringpuller;and that's when all the asians gather around and start cheering 414812;1386657746;Vexual;let the cheeres bet too 414813;1386657772;Vexual;i feel a knife fight coming on 414814;1386657815;thestringpuller;i think the issue with MG is ultimately it's hard to make a game fun 414815;1386657832;thestringpuller;you know a game is fun when you play it, but not so much while making it 414816;1386657842;Vexual;there are lots of reasons people want to play 414817;1386657864;thestringpuller;yea but look at Mario vs any game on the Atari 2600 save maybe pitfall 414818;1386657891;Vexual;i ve'r had a 2600 414819;1386657899;Vexual;*ne'r 414820;1386657944;thestringpuller;you have to start really small to design a fun game 414821;1386657970;thestringpuller;like the original mega man is really fun but extremely difficult to the point it's generally not fun to non-hardcore gamers 414822;1386657995;thestringpuller;so they had to rebalance it for Mega Man 2 which outsold and was much more popular than it's predecessor 414823;1386658035;thestringpuller;so adding crypto to that mix is quite the challenge imo 414824;1386658040;Vexual;difficult is one thing 414825;1386658061;BingoBoingo;The bigger issue with S.MG is probably they have all of this capital that is probably going to exceed dev costs and going to be a dividend so people will hold for that. 414826;1386658091;thestringpuller;BingoBoingo: what if they can't get to a point where they can get operating revenue? 414827;1386658115;thestringpuller;if the raised capital exceed dev costs due to deflation I can see that happening 414828;1386658124;BingoBoingo;thestringpuller: That is a great question 414829;1386658140;thestringpuller;but if the monthly dev costs outweighs the incoming revenue from "sales" they'll still need that capital 414830;1386658150;Vexual;those arent the real hurdles for game devs 414831;1386658164;thestringpuller;tell that to ubisoft mr. Vexual 414832;1386658172;thestringpuller;THQ* 414833;1386658174;thestringpuller;mybad 414834;1386658223;Vexual;good point, thjose splash screens gotta mean something or the company is kaput 414835;1386658241;thestringpuller;THQ operated on a loss for some 2 years 414836;1386658255;Vexual;u cant make a game in a month 414837;1386658259;thestringpuller;Squaresoft did the same thing until they merged with Enix now they are back in the same scenario 414838;1386658287;thestringpuller;that's why you have to stagger development, multiple games in the pipe 414839;1386658290;BingoBoingo;I think one thing S.NSA has going for it is that even with deflation if costs are charged against raised capital, at least for No Such lAbs there aren't many replacement level competitors. 414840;1386658305;thestringpuller;or your primary game has to pay for itself upon release 414841;1386658314;thestringpuller;Rockstar will never go bankrupt 414842;1386658318;thestringpuller;for that very reason 414843;1386658319;Vexual;i spent 6 months in 95 on a game 414844;1386658325;Vexual;wa wa 414845;1386658338;thestringpuller;rockstar spends about 3-4 years per game 414846;1386658349;Vexual;top down stategy thing, fucking coisl iny our shows and this and thaty 414847;1386658366;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 400 @ 0.003 = 1.2 BTC [+] 414848;1386658367;thestringpuller;but they stagger the releases on a per year basis, usually may of each year 414849;1386658368;Vexual;artistic vision 414850;1386658375;BingoBoingo;I'm pretty sure whether BTC is $100 or $1500 S.NSA could pull off selling the Cardano for 0.35BTC 414851;1386658391;thestringpuller;Everyone wants a Cardano though 414852;1386658406;thestringpuller;Cardano will pay its development costs off quickly 414853;1386658412;thestringpuller;and NSA will operate on a profit 414854;1386658426;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 138 @ 0.003 = 0.414 BTC [+] 414855;1386658469;thestringpuller;when Eulora is released maybe BTC will be at 4g so the original raised capital will deflate with development costs 414856;1386658477;thestringpuller;will have deflated* 414857;1386658548;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37200 @ 0.00087095 = 32.3993 BTC [-] {4} 414858;1386658664;Vexual;.bait 414859;1386658665;ozbot;http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdld8qzUlU1rzb0veo1_400.jpg 414860;1386658689;pankkake;.bait 414861;1386658690;ozbot;http://25.media.tumblr.com/59f1cdf7320e166a0b225b1b43ec8cb9/tumblr_mlv703uFg41r9e3eqo1_r1_500.jpg 414862;1386658716;thestringpuller;.bait 414863;1386658735;thestringpuller;:( 414864;1386658749;pankkake;ozbot detected you were under 18? 414865;1386658784;thestringpuller;i think someone made ozbot ignor me because i spammed bait via pm for a good 15 minutes one night 414866;1386658802;thestringpuller;and I was all fuck-a-you 414867;1386658819;pankkake;.bait 414868;1386658820;ozbot;http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdl80bRmit1qedo9to1_500.jpg 414869;1386658847;benkay;.bait 414870;1386658848;ozbot;http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kuyf3smmwD1qzr6gxo1_500.jpg 414871;1386658854;KRS|Gotyawallet;ah nice 414872;1386658856;KRS|Gotyawallet;Mmmm 414873;1386658856;benkay;mmm. 414874;1386658876;KRS|Gotyawallet;damn pubes though 414875;1386658905;pankkake;yeah :/ 414876;1386658943;thestringpuller;lol you pedo's 414877;1386658952;thestringpuller;"shaven girls like a baby's vagina" 414878;1386658987;pankkake;ephebophiles* 414879;1386659033;benkay;;;ud ephebophiles 414880;1386659033;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ephebophile | The word ephebophile derives from Greek, with the individual root meanings of ephebo-, "youth", and phile, "one who is attracted to". In this case, "youth" does ... 414881;1386659034;ozbot;Urban Dictionary: ephebophile 414882;1386659035;KRS|Gotyawallet;wut 414883;1386659036;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22800 @ 0.00087035 = 19.844 BTC [-] {2} 414884;1386659049;thestringpuller;;;ud work 414885;1386659049;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=work | A worldwide slave labour organisation used to control modern man and prevent independant thought from occuring in any form. This is the reason it's... 414886;1386659050;ozbot;Urban Dictionary: work 414887;1386659058;KRS|Gotyawallet;i just cant stand pubes..maybe you like em getting caught in your throat when your favorite fuck sits on your face.. i dont =D 414888;1386659069;Vexual;if ciera dont win survivor ill eat my hat 414889;1386659080;BingoBoingo;;;ud sound docking 414890;1386659080;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Sound%20Docking | The act of inserting one's penis into another man's urethra. See also Sounding and Docking. 414891;1386659081;ozbot;Urban Dictionary: Sound Docking 414892;1386659088;KRS|Gotyawallet;omg 414893;1386659093;Duffer1;NO 414894;1386659098;thestringpuller;no 414895;1386659099;thestringpuller;no 414896;1386659101;KRS|Gotyawallet;and you would know of this term bingoboingo? 414897;1386659103;thestringpuller;NOPOE NOPE NOPE 414898;1386659133;pankkake;NPOE 414899;1386659135;BingoBoingo;KRS|Gotyawallet: Only what the encyclopedia told me 414900;1386659153;BingoBoingo;thestringpuller: What's that MP's greatest insults github? 414901;1386659163;Duffer1;;;ud random 414902;1386659163;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=random | The latest buzzword used amongst mindless teenagers as a way of showing just so utterly irreverent their predictable sense of humour is. Particular... 414903;1386659164;ozbot;Urban Dictionary: random 414904;1386659181;Duffer1;i was hoping for a random definition 414905;1386659189;Duffer1;not ud definition of random 414906;1386659258;pankkake;BingoBoingo: https://gist.github.com/leffuy/750a4291264fa2de03a5 414907;1386659283;BingoBoingo;Thank you pankkake 414908;1386659312;Vexual;hes a fucking wealth of knowlegde 414909;1386659335;Duffer1;ha #3 got me 414910;1386659344;Vexual;ie pankakke 414911;1386659347;KRS|Gotyawallet;hey BingoBoingo- ever hear of a paleface? 414912;1386659349;KRS|Gotyawallet;Look i tup 414913;1386659362;Duffer1;;;ud paleface 414914;1386659363;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=paleface | A common term used by native Americans to classify white people. 414915;1386659363;ozbot;Urban Dictionary: paleface 414916;1386659378;KRS|Gotyawallet;no different one 414917;1386659394;pankkake;Vexual: it's favorited on my github account, so easy to find everytime someone here asks 414918;1386659421;KRS|Gotyawallet;Paleface: The act of ejaculating into one's dominant hand, then giving an open-handed slap to another person with the aforementioned hand. 414919;1386659429;BingoBoingo;KRS|Gotyawallet: I am familiar with the term 414920;1386659452;KRS|Gotyawallet;i'm sorry if you ever received one 414921;1386659457;KRS|Gotyawallet;not very fun 414922;1386659518;Vexual;fuck it, this is good enough for the main chan 414923;1386659522;BingoBoingo;KRS|Gotyawallet: Worse things can happen 414924;1386659524;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.05 = 0.2 BTC 414925;1386659528;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U705EAx70Cw 414926;1386659528;ozbot;Rodney Rude McDonalds - YouTube 414927;1386659627;Vexual;wheres the chips cunt? 414928;1386660317;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21880 @ 0.00087032 = 19.0426 BTC [-] {2} 414929;1386660771;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BBqHPjeUCg 414930;1386660772;ozbot;"wanna get Chinese eyes man?"-cheech and chong - YouTube 414931;1386660930;Vexual;http://vimeo.com/31720870  honestly, i wouldn't trust most of the people in -otc even if they sent first. <<< neither would they. 415381;1386692316;nubbins`;rite? 415382;1386692326;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves well he's well known to yourself. 415383;1386692337;nubbins`;thestringpuller: ah, i see you have a +10 rating from 'danieldaniel' with the comment "Fuck you." 415384;1386692338;mircea_popescu;at least they don't go "we're a well known" etc. 415385;1386692375;nubbins`;i bet that took some wrangling 415386;1386692401;mircea_popescu;it'll be funny when private individual dorks start actually refering to themselves in the 1st person 415387;1386692409;mircea_popescu;god knows they're already doing it when speaking as if "their company" 415388;1386692419;mircea_popescu;fuck you, i'm a compadragon! 415389;1386692424;nubbins`;HEH 415390;1386692427;nubbins`;i do that 415391;1386692432;nubbins`;but in my defense, there's three of us 415392;1386692437;mircea_popescu;at least you got a wife 415393;1386692437;mircea_popescu;yeah. 415394;1386692439;ThickAsThieves;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=359858.msg3906713#msg3906713 A proud day for any service. 415395;1386692455;nubbins`;ha 415396;1386692463;mircea_popescu;sexcoin was overdue. 415397;1386692472;ozbot;[ANN] CryptoFrenzy Crypto-Porfolio Beta Launch - Track your crypto-earnings 415398;1386692473;nubbins`;at least it wasn't late 415399;1386692480;nubbins`;ba-dum-tss 415400;1386692481;mircea_popescu;you mean early 415401;1386692489;nubbins`;nah, period talk 415402;1386692497;ThickAsThieves;da-dumb-tss 415403;1386692502;assbot;Last 12 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1499136/plain/) 415404;1386692502;mircea_popescu;!b 12 415405;1386692523;nubbins`;http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/pussy-riot-greenpeace-activists-could-be-granted-amnesty-in-russia-1.2458026 415406;1386692523;ozbot;Pussy Riot, Greenpeace activists could be granted amnesty in Russia - World - CBC News 415407;1386692525;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.05 = 1 BTC 415408;1386692526;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.339 BTC [+] 415409;1386692533;mircea_popescu;worst news ever 415410;1386692540;mircea_popescu;keep them naked in gaol 4ever! 415411;1386692540;ThickAsThieves;after a year locked up? 415412;1386692541;nubbins`;best thing to come out of this was watching stuffy newscasters have to say the phrase "Pussy Riot" so many times 415413;1386692545;mircea_popescu;ima start a petition 415414;1386692546;ThickAsThieves;didnt one get away? 415415;1386692550;mircea_popescu;KEEP PUSSY RIOT CAGED! 415416;1386692552;nubbins`;nah 415417;1386692556;nubbins`;i think one got sent to a gulag 415418;1386692565;nubbins`;and went missing on the way 415419;1386692583;mircea_popescu;and then is this the blondy with small tits and an annoying personality that split up with her hubby 415420;1386692586;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 88 @ 0.00332547 = 0.2926 BTC [+] {5} 415421;1386692593;mircea_popescu;because eiother or both betrayed the holy cause of pussy rioting ? 415422;1386692596;ThickAsThieves;no the pretty one 415423;1386692613;mircea_popescu;there was only one pretty one, and she was dumb as a plank 415424;1386692616;ThickAsThieves;that had sex pregnant in public 415425;1386692619;mircea_popescu;i think i still have pix somwhere 415426;1386692628;mircea_popescu;a no, the one with the nice tits. 415427;1386692673;ThickAsThieves;there was the riot grrl, then artsy girl, and the prairie girl 415428;1386692681;nubbins`;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pussy_Riot_by_Igor_Mukhin.jpg 415429;1386692690;nubbins`;prairie girl was the blond one 415430;1386692692;mircea_popescu;in total there were maybe two dozen 415431;1386692712;ThickAsThieves;yeah a bunch 415432;1386692724;ThickAsThieves;my mom is in pussy riot now 415433;1386692728;nubbins`;Cock Civil Disobedience 415434;1386692756;nubbins`;ah, just because there's blood everywhere and people are crying doesn't mean it's a riot. 415435;1386692786;nubbins`;"Barack Obama, Raul Castro shake hands at Mandela memorial" 415436;1386692794;nubbins`;ah, my sides. 415437;1386692804;nubbins`;"no srsly bru, we're still not cool" 415438;1386692831;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 8 @ 0.02249999 = 0.18 BTC [+] 415439;1386692943;nubbins`;wow, apollo 11 crew had to pass thru US customs & immigration upon returning from the moon 415440;1386692958;mircea_popescu;http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/bikini-clad-siberian-jogger-hit-6-50-traffic-fine-article-1.1283421 415441;1386692964;mircea_popescu;hahaha what! 415442;1386693005;thestringpuller;yo did you bring back any moon drugs? 415443;1386693013;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.339 = 1.356 BTC [+] 415444;1386693015;thestringpuller;we'll need to check you for moon meth 415445;1386693026;pankkake;they probably just checked for bitcoins 415446;1386693046;mircea_popescu;basically all the us is these days, is one giant cartman 415447;1386693051;mircea_popescu;going "respect mah autoritah" 415448;1386693057;nubbins`;http://www.space.com/7044-moon-apollo-astronauts-customs.html 415449;1386693058;ozbot;Back from the Moon, Apollo Astronauts Had to Go Through Customs | Space.com 415450;1386693063;nubbins`;flight origin: "MOON" 415451;1386693074;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 16 @ 0.3366875 = 5.387 BTC [-] {5} 415452;1386693075;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 68 @ 0.003311 = 0.2251 BTC [-] {2} 415453;1386693076;nubbins`;Flight No.: "APOLLO 11" 415454;1386693105;asciilifeform;better than fiction: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/12/new-us-spy-satellite-features-world-devouring-octopus/ 415455;1386693115;nubbins`;Conditions on board which may lead to the spread of disease: TBD 415456;1386693116;nubbins`;heh 415457;1386693140;nubbins`;wow, jesus 415458;1386693145;nubbins`;that's a cool logo 415459;1386693157;nubbins`;terrifying, but cool 415460;1386693189;asciilifeform;bunch of 'cubesats' in there, too: http://www.cubesat.org/index.php/missions/upcoming-launches/134-l39-launch-alert 415461;1386693195;mircea_popescu;hahaha nothing is beyond our reach, except pls don't use gpg. 415462;1386693203;mircea_popescu;and please stick to cloudflare and tor. 415463;1386693210;mircea_popescu;and please don't use cash 415464;1386693214;nubbins`;from the comments: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ba42Z0lCMAAfkzM.jpg 415465;1386693220;mircea_popescu;but nothing other than those three 415466;1386693221;mircea_popescu;mostly. 415467;1386693351;mircea_popescu;honestly, the sad mental state of people still showing up to work for the various usg agencies suggests we'll soon see jamestown-like mass suicides. 415468;1386693373;nubbins`;at least they'll use a name-brand drink. 415469;1386693394;asciilifeform;nah, only a handful of KGB brass offed themselves in the '90s 415470;1386693401;asciilifeform;no reason this one should play out any differently 415471;1386693408;pankkake;http://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/12/08/2232257/employee-morale-is-suffering-at-the-nsa 415472;1386693409;ozbot;Employee Morale Is Suffering At the NSA - Slashdot 415473;1386693549;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform kgb was a lot more cynical. 415474;1386693562;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00087278 = 4.0148 BTC [-] 415475;1386693570;mircea_popescu;cynicism is good protective serum. these people are nutty. 415476;1386693670;mircea_popescu;But on this most auspicious of nightspermit me then, in lieu of the more commonplace sobriquetto suggest the character of this dramatis persona.Voil!In view, a humble vaudevillian veterancast vicariously as both victim and villain by the vicissitudes of fate.This visage, no mere veneer of vanityis a vestige of the vox populi,now vacant, vanished.However, this valorous visitation of a bygone vexation stand 415477;1386693670;mircea_popescu;s vivifiedand has vowed to vanquish these venal and virulent vermin vanguarding viceand vouchsafing the violently vicious and voracious violation of volition.The only verdict is vengeance,a vendettaheld as a votive not in vain,for the value and veracity of suchshall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous.Verily, this vichyssoise of verbiage veers most verbose.So let me simply add that its my ver 415478;1386693670;mircea_popescu;y good honor to meet youand you may call me V . 415479;1386693679;mircea_popescu;i wish i could write like wthat. 415480;1386693711;ThickAsThieves;I have the original 415481;1386693723;mircea_popescu;the movie you mean ? 415482;1386693734;ThickAsThieves;the comic 415483;1386693793;mircea_popescu;o o 415484;1386693798;ThickAsThieves;apparently its not worth anything 415485;1386693862;ThickAsThieves;oh wait it is 415486;1386694233;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22897 @ 0.0008754 = 20.044 BTC [+] {3} 415487;1386694782;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00087278 = 2.3565 BTC [-] 415488;1386694860;mircea_popescu;http://www.eva.ro/dragoste/sex/poveste-adevarata-m-au-violat-ca-sa-nu-mai-fiu-lesbiana-articol-37722.html 415489;1386694874;mircea_popescu;article about lezzie that got raped "curatively". comment section ? lezzies dating 415490;1386694878;mircea_popescu;fascinating romania. 415491;1386694965;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9566 @ 0.00087082 = 8.3303 BTC [-] {2} 415492;1386695001;nubbins`;http://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/12/10/1352228/3-d-printed-gun-ban-fails-in-senate 415493;1386695002;ozbot;3-D Printed Gun Ban Fails In Senate - Slashdot 415494;1386695039;mircea_popescu;awww 415495;1386695069;nubbins`;so much for illegal shapes 415496;1386695077;nubbins`;i'd love a 3d printer, can't justify it 415497;1386695105;ThickAsThieves;all i see when i look at 3d printers is cancer 415498;1386695120;ThickAsThieves;reminds me of the fear i had loading Xerox machines 415499;1386695129;nubbins`;what, as opposed to all the other plastic you come into contact in the run of a day? 415500;1386695148;ThickAsThieves;well i inhale as little a spossible 415501;1386695163;ThickAsThieves;(plastic dust) 415502;1386695184;nubbins`;i'm not sure 3d printers produce dust 415503;1386695196;nubbins`;but anyway, if you smell plastic, it's in your body 415504;1386695200;nubbins`;likely for a very long time 415505;1386695206;ThickAsThieves;ok 415506;1386695208;mircea_popescu;afaik the phtalates (softening agents) are the main problem with "normal" plastics 415507;1386695215;mircea_popescu;afaik 3d printing doesn't use them 415508;1386695224;mircea_popescu;(cause too expensive/difficult, mostly) 415509;1386695238;ThickAsThieves;so no need for masks when 3d printing? 415510;1386695246;mircea_popescu;yes, but for the solvents 415511;1386695249;mircea_popescu;just like printing. 415512;1386695274;mircea_popescu;now, as far as solvents go toluene (used to be widely used in the 70s etc) is actually carginogenic 415513;1386695280;mircea_popescu;but has been disused for > 20 years buy now. 415514;1386695299;ThickAsThieves;sell later 415515;1386695305;nubbins`;the hip thing these days is to use acetone vapor to take the jagged edges off rough 3d prints 415516;1386695320;nubbins`;if anything, that's the dangerous step 415517;1386695322;mircea_popescu;good excuse for a little acetone trippin'. 415518;1386695351;nubbins`;generally they use ABS and PLA plastics, not sure about the specifics of either 415519;1386695380;nubbins`;ah, lego is made from ABS 415520;1386695385;nubbins`;and everyone eats those 415521;1386695392;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.16 BTC [+] 415522;1386695394;nubbins`;i'm told lego sandwiches are a danish delicacy 415523;1386695400;mircea_popescu;lmao 415524;1386695453;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18200 @ 0.00086963 = 15.8273 BTC [-] {2} 415525;1386695557;mircea_popescu;actually since we're on the topic, it's good policy to throw out all old plastic in the house (>3 years or so) and replace it with modern plastic (if made in the us or eu, past coupla years) 415526;1386695571;mircea_popescu;an especially good time to do so is when preparing the house for the first baby. 415527;1386695594;mircea_popescu;this is especially true of any pvc items, if you can recognise pvc 415528;1386695639;ThickAsThieves;but my box of wires! 415529;1386695645;nubbins`;pvc is nasty 415530;1386695650;mircea_popescu;the reason would be that phtalates are toxic, and unbound to the actual plastic, so they leak out as the thing breaks down through age/sun exposure 415531;1386695664;mircea_popescu;whereas it's been mostly phased out of production, so no longer used as a plasticizer since ~2010/2012 415532;1386695684;nubbins`;honestly believe plastic will be the ultimate downfall of man 415533;1386695742;ThickAsThieves;legalization of marijuana will be the downfall of man 415534;1386695743;nubbins`;or, y'know, some sort of meteor impact 415535;1386695745;ThickAsThieves;hehe 415536;1386695748;nubbins`;heh 415537;1386695758;nubbins`;no, legalization of marijuana will be the downfall of government 415538;1386695758;mircea_popescu;failure to kiss my pinky ring will be downfall of woman. 415539;1386695761;mircea_popescu;man, nobody cares about. 415540;1386695768;nubbins`;pinky ring? hmm, kind of gay 415541;1386695777;ThickAsThieves;his other fingers are busy 415542;1386695780;mircea_popescu;no, homo! 415543;1386695806;mircea_popescu;you know... we need a dedicated #bitcoin-assets band. 415544;1386695814;mircea_popescu;rap, heavy metal, something. 415545;1386695820;nubbins`;i play drums! 415546;1386695832;ThickAsThieves;i make beats and have a studio 415547;1386695833;mircea_popescu;they could make songs about shit being discussed, and get bittips 415548;1386695838;ThickAsThieves;and play guitar 415549;1386695846;ThickAsThieves;and some keys 415550;1386695846;pankkake;there's already a bitcoin song http://youtu.be/fZfg1Gtcg08 415551;1386695849;mircea_popescu;could be like, pretty edgy 415552;1386695862;ThickAsThieves;does bitbet know about the bitcoin song? 415553;1386695864;ThickAsThieves;didnt think so 415554;1386695865;nubbins`;"the downfall of men" 415555;1386695870;mircea_popescu;pankkake i don't mean one song. i mean a fucking band. a song a month 415556;1386695871;nubbins`;there's an album right there 415557;1386695899;pankkake;I can already say I can't do anything 415558;1386695906;mircea_popescu;i could perhaps get chicks to show up for nude vids to go with teh muzak 415559;1386695910;ThickAsThieves;you can be the webmaster 415560;1386695912;nubbins`;hmmmm 415561;1386695917;nubbins`;we could sell merch 415562;1386695943;mircea_popescu;once it gets popular it can have it's own fucking F! show 415563;1386695949;mircea_popescu;cable is desperate for content anyway 415564;1386695956;ThickAsThieves;yknow there really is room for a bitcoin-famous and themed band 415565;1386695957;mircea_popescu;there's a living in here. 415566;1386695964;the20year;What are your feelings on ciphertrade, everyone? 415567;1386695976;nubbins`;heh, there's a 6'7" metal guitarist guiding a dump truck down my dead-end street 415568;1386695982;ThickAsThieves;we try not to get emotional about it the20year 415569;1386695994;mircea_popescu;nubbins` you mean as in height ?! 415570;1386695997;nubbins`;yeah 415571;1386696002;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15865 @ 0.00086692 = 13.7537 BTC [-] {3} 415572;1386696004;mircea_popescu;wow. 415573;1386696010;nubbins`;nod 415574;1386696012;ThickAsThieves;made of metal? 415575;1386696014;ThickAsThieves;impressive 415576;1386696015;nubbins`;his band is called "crossboners" 415577;1386696023;mircea_popescu;they do a lot of docking ? 415578;1386696026;nubbins`;lel 415579;1386696044;nubbins`;we (dick surgery) played a show with them once 415580;1386696046;mircea_popescu;the shit i learn from the internet. 415581;1386696072;ThickAsThieves;so there must be all kindsa great song names 415582;1386696085;ThickAsThieves;I Wanna Hold (Your Assets) 415583;1386696100;mircea_popescu;lol 415584;1386696105;mircea_popescu;moar like 415585;1386696110;mircea_popescu;Moving Forward & Resolution 415586;1386696130;mircea_popescu;We Were Married Two Weeks Ago 415587;1386696147;ThickAsThieves;It's Time for an Update 415588;1386696148;mircea_popescu;(And It Hasn't Happened Yet) 415589;1386696166;ThickAsThieves;Reddit Stole My Baby 415590;1386696167;mircea_popescu;Amazingly Great News 415591;1386696185;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.02499999 = 0.125 BTC [+] {2} 415592;1386696186;ThickAsThieves;We Are the Wealthy Elite 415593;1386696187;mircea_popescu;actually first album should probably be We are a Company 415594;1386696211;ThickAsThieves;The Company Lyin 415595;1386696218;nubbins`;ah, lovely, i was hoping i'd spill a full mug of coffee all over the table today 415596;1386696229;nubbins`;where's my to-do list... 415597;1386696264;ThickAsThieves;Weak Hands, Strong Heart 415598;1386696264;nubbins`;asjlieurhgipfhgiuegheiwru water too?!?!?!?!?! 415599;1386696266;nubbins`;AAAAHHHH 415600;1386696293;nubbins`;mother fucker 415601;1386696312;ThickAsThieves;The Bitcoin is in the Mail 415602;1386696326;pankkake;Chip in for some Cheap Shares 415603;1386696349;mircea_popescu;so in todays installment of fml, few days ago i get a gallon of plum juice, then yest i spend the day getting drunk with the guy who gave it to me. total intake ~1.7 liters of pure alcohol past 7 days. today, chick i know wants me to pls answer some q's for this study she's doing for school. 415604;1386696385;ThickAsThieves;1. How much do you drink? 415605;1386696386;mircea_popescu;it's, of course, about alcohol consumption. after 5 questions she's like... well that's nice, you exceed the total so far. 415606;1386696405;nubbins`;haha 415607;1386696414;mircea_popescu;i'm like "no but this is exceptional. it's not the real me! i didn't even get drunk! 415608;1386696419;ThickAsThieves;You Can Reset My 2fa Anytime 415609;1386696420;mircea_popescu;hey this stuff is great, you shouyld try it sometime!" 415610;1386696428;nubbins`;"it's not the real me!" 415611;1386696432;nubbins`;if i had a dollar... 415612;1386696446;mircea_popescu;you could almost afford a bitcoin ? 415613;1386696487;nubbins`;people still buy those? 415614;1386696490;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.334 = 1.67 BTC [-] 415615;1386696498;mircea_popescu;not in the us. 415616;1386696505;nubbins`;heh! 415617;1386696507;mircea_popescu;they're against democracy there. 415618;1386696514;mircea_popescu;wait I got it! 415619;1386696523;mircea_popescu;This Is A Small Amount of First Album 415620;1386696526;mircea_popescu;that's the first album 415621;1386696528;ThickAsThieves;ron paul says bitcoin is the destroyer of all 415622;1386696538;nubbins`;the destroyer of worlds 415623;1386696541;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves he's just quoting mp. 415624;1386696541;pankkake;I Got Scammed And I Liked It 415625;1386696551;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.33300013 = 0.999 BTC [-] {2} 415626;1386696552;nubbins`;i thought that was oppenheimer. 415627;1386696559;mircea_popescu;maybe moar like i got scammed but maybe it didn't really happen 415628;1386696575;ThickAsThieves;Do You Even Mine? 415629;1386696578;mircea_popescu;o ya 415630;1386696579;mircea_popescu;def. 415631;1386696581;nubbins`;IPOh My God 415632;1386696589;mircea_popescu;haha 415633;1386696602;pankkake;The Coins Are Gone 415634;1386696605;ThickAsThieves;IPOMG 415635;1386696621;mircea_popescu;Gettin' it on the ground floor. 415636;1386696654;nubbins`;Slaughter House Three 415637;1386696659;nubbins`;wait, how many of them were there? 415638;1386696665;nubbins`;please say 5 415639;1386696666;mircea_popescu;The Reports Were In The Pudding. We Ated It. 415640;1386696674;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9850 @ 0.00086656 = 8.5356 BTC [-] 415641;1386696679;ThickAsThieves;I Was Gonna Pay Dividends, But Then I Got Hacked 415642;1386696687;mircea_popescu;hahaah 415643;1386696707;mircea_popescu;Cold Wallet < Hot Wallet 415644;1386696711;nubbins`;I'm Not Really Here: The Story of Your Funds 415645;1386696729;mircea_popescu;Listen To The Sound Of Lag 415646;1386696736;mircea_popescu;also Laggerban 415647;1386696741;mircea_popescu;Laggerband* 415648;1386696787;nubbins`;Blockchained Melody 415649;1386696790;mircea_popescu;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2JbJuZU6i0 415650;1386696791;ozbot;Rick Ross In New York"Kiss My Pinky Ring" Official Music Video(50 cent diss) - YouTube 415651;1386696791;ThickAsThieves;lol 415652;1386696807;nubbins`;lel @ "diss tracks" 415653;1386696823;ThickAsThieves;we need a vocalist 415654;1386696825;nubbins`;diss track, son // distraction 415655;1386696829;mircea_popescu;guy can't rap either. 415656;1386696837;ThickAsThieves;rick ross is so horrible 415657;1386696843;ThickAsThieves;RUUHHHH 415658;1386696857;pankkake;Hotel Bitcoinica 415659;1386696863;Apocalyptic;^^ 415660;1386696865;nubbins`;lovely place 415661;1386696871;mircea_popescu;but you can't never leave. 415662;1386696878;nubbins`;gimme some divs at the hotel bitcoinica 415663;1386696897;mircea_popescu;Guise How To Make Exchange? 415664;1386696930;ThickAsThieves;Decentralize This Book 415665;1386696935;nubbins`;hahaha 415666;1386696946;kanzure;decentralize this food bank 415667;1386696969;mircea_popescu;Decentralized Vajina 415668;1386696970;nubbins`;pretty lulzy that people from all over are donating to this one place that feeds the homeless 415669;1386696982;kanzure;is it good food? 415670;1386696982;nubbins`;while likely simultaneously doing fuck-all in their own communities 415671;1386696995;nubbins`;BITCOIN! 415672;1386696997;mircea_popescu;nubbins` you don't understand the magic of it. 415673;1386697005;mircea_popescu;do you know what nimby means nubbins` ? 415674;1386697011;nubbins`;yah, of course 415675;1386697015;mircea_popescu;well that's the appeal 415676;1386697015;nubbins`;i live in north america 415677;1386697020;mircea_popescu;feed the homeless OVER THERE 415678;1386697023;nubbins`;heh 415679;1386697028;mircea_popescu;so they all either starve in our own community or move there 415680;1386697030;mircea_popescu;problem solved. 415681;1386697044;nubbins`;if they stopped to think for a moment, they'd probably realize that they'd rather have their local homeless be well-fed 415682;1386697051;nubbins`;but ya know 415683;1386697054;mircea_popescu;no thety wouldn't. homeless = mobile. 415684;1386697057;nubbins`;it's not called thinkcoin 415685;1386697062;mircea_popescu;let them pack and move to that one place where they get fed. 415686;1386697067;nubbins`;i live on an island 415687;1386697075;mircea_popescu;even a dog can swim. 415688;1386697076;nubbins`;homeless != mobile 415689;1386697084;nubbins`;yah, but for 12 hours? 415690;1386697097;mircea_popescu;twist : MPOE-PR would do vocals. 415691;1386697115;ThickAsThieves;oh yeah? 415692;1386697116;mircea_popescu;O, you need a vocalist for the btc version of anal cunt? i'd do that ;D 415693;1386697116;mircea_popescu;would you ? 415694;1386697116;mircea_popescu;absolutely 415695;1386697118;nubbins`;i suppose if you had a floatation device, you could take the currents to montreal 415696;1386697120;nubbins`;not sure tho 415697;1386697140;nubbins`;anal cunt, now there's a throwback 415698;1386697146;pankkake;hehe 415699;1386697146;nubbins`;one of those guys died a few years ago 415700;1386697167;ThickAsThieves;See Here. 415701;1386697171;mircea_popescu;hahaha 415702;1386697186;pankkake;well that's the main AC guy: (NSFW) http://i53.tinypic.com/123mez9.jpg 415703;1386697209;Diablo-D3;-_-` 415704;1386697229;mircea_popescu;only faggots put nsfw warnings on pics that contain no cunt. 415705;1386697237;nubbins`;lel 415706;1386697241;nubbins`;tying off with a patch cord 415707;1386697256;ThickAsThieves;you know youre a rockstar when 415708;1386697272;pankkake;naken man is more nsfw than naked female 415709;1386697277;thestringpuller;mircea_popescu doesn't put any nsfw tags on anything 415710;1386697278;mircea_popescu;when your dick and balls fit in one mouth ? 415711;1386697279;Diablo-D3;and its a half way decent patch cord too 415712;1386697280;nubbins`;well he obv didn't have a belt handy, so... 415713;1386697288;thestringpuller;thus I can't read trilema at work 415714;1386697303;mircea_popescu;;;google site:trilema.com nsfw 415715;1386697303;gribble;NSFW - Well, what's in a picture ? pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: ; [NSFW] Test de cultura locala pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: ; The froth of our days pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: 415716;1386697306;mircea_popescu;HA! 415717;1386697319;thestringpuller;lolol 415718;1386697320;thestringpuller;okay okay 415719;1386697344;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 65 @ 0.00331349 = 0.2154 BTC [+] {5} 415720;1386697387;mircea_popescu;penis is nsfw ? seriously ?! 415721;1386697405;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.3330001 = 0.666 BTC [-] 415722;1386697413;nubbins`;yipes 415723;1386697418;pankkake;you have to undertand the W part 415724;1386697420;nubbins`;i brought my penis to work literally every day 415725;1386697425;nubbins`;good thing nobody found out 415726;1386697426;pankkake;better be a perv at work than a gay at work 415727;1386697506;mircea_popescu;ok so this band, does it actually have anyone ? what's it need, a drummer an electric guitar, alead vocal ? 415728;1386697518;nubbins`;you'll need bass too 415729;1386697525;Diablo-D3;and a guy on keyboard 415730;1386697528;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5850 @ 0.00087047 = 5.0922 BTC [+] 415731;1386697538;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves if all the people in the band connect in a skype conference, can you pull youtube sound out of that ? 415732;1386697539;nubbins`;keyboard changes the whole dynamic, choose wisely 415733;1386697546;ThickAsThieves;well if you just wanna record, i can cover any missing parts rreally 415734;1386697547;nubbins`;mircea_popescu: lag, impossible 415735;1386697551;ThickAsThieves;but if you wanna perform 415736;1386697554;ThickAsThieves;thats diff 415737;1386697562;Diablo-D3;just do what daft punk does 415738;1386697572;Diablo-D3;rip ALL the samples \o/ 415739;1386697573;mircea_popescu;just record to start. 415740;1386697577;nubbins`;best is to figure out a basic song structure, start with drums, then overdub everything else 415741;1386697584;mircea_popescu;nubbins` you don't understand. lag is part of our legacy. 415742;1386697588;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 290 @ 0.00303274 = 0.8795 BTC [-] {2} 415743;1386697589;nubbins`;heh 415744;1386697589;mircea_popescu;o you can overdub ? 415745;1386697595;pankkake;Straight Outta Timisoara 415746;1386697598;mircea_popescu;dub you hear that ? you obsolete fuck you. 415747;1386697602;Diablo-D3;OVERWUB 415748;1386697602;nubbins`;me personally no, but anyone with a reasonable setup could 415749;1386697611;Diablo-D3;WUBWUBWUBWUBWUBWUB 415750;1386697623;mircea_popescu;if this thing manages to record a song i'd ipo it :D 415751;1386697633;ThickAsThieves;do we have a style in mind? 415752;1386697641;ThickAsThieves;the girl wants to punk or? 415753;1386697641;mircea_popescu;let's start simple 415754;1386697643;nubbins`;comedy rock 415755;1386697644;mircea_popescu;do we have a mind ? 415756;1386697649;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.05 = 0.75 BTC 415757;1386697650;nubbins`;punk drums, too fast 415758;1386697664;nubbins`;did we have any clear winners with song names? 415759;1386697678;ThickAsThieves;she might only be comfortable with certain styles 415760;1386697683;nubbins`;best to get lyrics sorted, few verses, maybe a chorus 415761;1386697692;mircea_popescu;prolly best start with lyrics. 415762;1386697711;pankkake;hehe perhaps I can try to write some lyrics after all! 415763;1386697724;pankkake;need to find a theme 415764;1386697732;pankkake;to focus on 415765;1386697738;nubbins`;two weeks 415766;1386697746;mircea_popescu;tell you what, to get the ball rolling : im putting a 0.1 btc prize on the lyrics. 415767;1386697749;nubbins`;or ipo 415768;1386697753;mircea_popescu;whoever makes a set that's accepted gets it 415769;1386697765;mircea_popescu;then we see if she can sing it, and if something can be patched together out of it 415770;1386697767;mircea_popescu;howssat. 415771;1386697771;nubbins`;lovely 415772;1386697774;pankkake;I'd buy the CD! 415773;1386697775;Diablo-D3;jesus why does audio output on everything suck 415774;1386697776;ThickAsThieves;soundss good 415775;1386697776;pankkake;or vinyl 415776;1386697781;mircea_popescu;it can be anything, rap, country and western, w/e. 415777;1386697781;ThickAsThieves;lemme know if you need anything 415778;1386697793;nubbins`;i'd buy it on vinyl 415779;1386697793;Diablo-D3;and why isnt my new dac and amp here yet 415780;1386697794;mircea_popescu;pankkake cd = certificate of deposit noob! 415781;1386697795;nubbins`;cds are for suckers 415782;1386697795;ThickAsThieves;like drum loop or whatevs 415783;1386697804;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves prolly will need everything. 415784;1386697823;ThickAsThieves;well if you give me a hint of style 415785;1386697831;ThickAsThieves;i can probly emulate and innovate 415786;1386697841;nubbins`;you could open-source the music and invite people to submit covers 415787;1386697841;mircea_popescu;there may be something in this. 415788;1386697852;nubbins`;Deerhoof once released the sheet music to one of their songs before it was released 415789;1386697871;mircea_popescu;anyway, deadline for submitted lyrics is monday. 415790;1386697875;mircea_popescu;let's see if this baby lives. 415791;1386697893;ThickAsThieves;k 415792;1386697995;the20year;who did you migrate trading to tat? 415793;1386698034;nubbins`;what rhymes with weeks? 415794;1386698047;the20year;teaks 415795;1386698055;nubbins`;sneaks 415796;1386698149;mircea_popescu;sweex 415797;1386698156;mircea_popescu;my fav sound eq makers. 415798;1386698165;nubbins`;there once was a man who accepted our coins 415799;1386698171;nubbins`;with a butterfly shirt and a penchant for groins 415800;1386698180;nubbins`;we asked for a date and he said "oh, two weeks!" 415801;1386698189;nubbins`;it is then we suspected we were dealing with sneaks 415802;1386698198;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1000 @ 0.00049999 = 0.5 BTC [+] 415803;1386698201;nubbins`;the weeks turned to months, and the months into years 415804;1386698205;pankkake;:o 415805;1386698209;nubbins`;as the hashrate still rose, we succumbed to our tears 415806;1386698227;nubbins`;that's a start anyway 415807;1386698230;pankkake;I must admit I'm cheating with a rhyming dictionnary, but I have my my non-nativeness as an excuse 415808;1386698234;mircea_popescu;youy know, as a lateral thought, it occurs to me that if this actually happens, all the other kids that hoped and dreamed to make a band will be SO butthurt jealous... 415809;1386698245;mircea_popescu;never had a chance, never had the means, never had a hope. 415810;1386698320;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2424 @ 0.000115 = 0.2788 BTC [-] 415811;1386698321;nubbins`;we refreshed the page and examined each line 415812;1386698327;nubbins`;in search of a clue as to when we could mine 415813;1386698346;mircea_popescu;that's not bad 415814;1386698362;mircea_popescu;jesus i can't believe anal cunt has a 50 page wikipedia entry, complete with neckbeard graphs and dioramas. 415815;1386698377;mircea_popescu;what the fuck, it was always a bored guy. not noteworthy in any sense. 415816;1386698423;nubbins`;the rep on the forums deflected our pleas 415817;1386698429;nubbins`;while drinking fine wines and eating nice cheese 415818;1386698440;pankkake;dragon ball z must have 300+ entries 415819;1386698453;pankkake;and let's not talk of pokémon 415820;1386698461;mircea_popescu;how can anal cunt have a longer article than stoya. 415821;1386698481;pankkake;anyway it's easy to make an anal cunt song: take a subject, say it's gay 415822;1386698483;ThickAsThieves;maybe he's so bored he moderates his own page 415823;1386698484;pankkake;and give it AIDS 415824;1386698516;nubbins`;"but surely a product, a business must need", 415825;1386698522;nubbins`;the orderers wailed at the company's greed 415826;1386698537;mircea_popescu;pankkake along those lines, cardano's test bench has so far generated gigabytes worth of anal cunt lead vocals and kbd. 415827;1386698631;nubbins`;we started to frown as the waiting time grew 415828;1386698637;nubbins`;and the company doused usb hubs with glue 415829;1386698641;mircea_popescu;lol nubbins` has engaged vexual mode. 415830;1386698654;ThickAsThieves;stoned? 415831;1386698655;nubbins`;i'm on a roll! 415832;1386698659;nubbins`;tat, not yet 415833;1386698789;asciilifeform;there ought to be a naughty bitmap or two in that Gb. 415834;1386698991;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 36 @ 0.33108334 = 11.919 BTC [-] {5} 415835;1386698993;nubbins`;then one day a miner appeared at a door 415836;1386698999;nubbins`;and the pre-orders began to pour in once more 415837;1386699022;nubbins`;"return on investment", the naysayer's phrase, 415838;1386699030;nubbins`;steadfastly ignored as we counted the days 415839;1386699052;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4550 @ 0.00086656 = 3.9428 BTC [-] 415840;1386699068;nubbins`;hoping one day that soon we'd have red cheeks 415841;1386699072;nubbins`;tired from smiling..... 415842;1386699075;nubbins`;after waiting two weeks. 415843;1386699145;deadweasel;so it looks like youj're making a childrens book for bitcoin? 415844;1386699223;nubbins`;nah, we're trying to record an album 415845;1386699237;nubbins`;altho it does have a "night before christmas" feel, hey 415846;1386699310;nubbins`;pre-order money is better than gold; it's free and it smells nice and never grows mold 415847;1386699383;nubbins`;pre-order hardware, six months down the road, is like a fine prince, turned into a toad 415848;1386699432;nubbins`;pre-order dreams and pre-order hopes, pre-order buyers on pre-order ropes 415849;1386699662;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.33 = 1.65 BTC [-] 415850;1386699747;nubbins`;inaba decided to give us some grief, with a shit-eating grin and a faint smell of queef 415851;1386699845;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26990 @ 0.00086639 = 23.3839 BTC [-] {3} 415852;1386699935;ThickAsThieves;I actually have a song i never finished that lyrics kinda fit the idea 415853;1386699959;nubbins`;a jonathan richman sort of style would be great for this 415854;1386699988;ThickAsThieves;kinda unclear if it's sposed to be a funny effort or not 415855;1386700016;ThickAsThieves;your writing so far implies so 415856;1386700032;nubbins`;mildly tongue-in-cheek, at least 415857;1386700064;ThickAsThieves;faint smell of queef 415858;1386700066;nubbins`;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysaBHTwazjk 415859;1386700066;ozbot;Jonathan Richman - Since She Started to Ride - YouTube 415860;1386700067;ThickAsThieves;mild indeed 415861;1386700086;morg_;Hello 415862;1386700093;nubbins`;hi 415863;1386700095;morg_;Anyone invested in PETA? 415864;1386700107;morg_;Hi nubbins 415865;1386700123;nubbins`;no, i can't see how investing in mining is a good idea 415866;1386700132;morg_;How come? 415867;1386700137;nubbins`;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjFU98mEem4 415868;1386700137;ozbot;Jonathan Richman - I Was Dancing In The Lesbian Bar Live - YouTube 415869;1386700333;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [7C] 20 @ 0.0077 = 0.154 BTC 415870;1386700403;nubbins`;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPHuZ_8xGGM 415871;1386700404;ozbot;Jonathan Richman - Vampire Girl ln.mp4.mp4 - YouTube 415872;1386700412;nubbins`;may just spend the rest of the day listening to jonathan richman 415873;1386700422;nubbins`;an inspiration to us all 415874;1386700466;ThickAsThieves;bitcoin just wants to rally 415875;1386700469;ThickAsThieves;;;ticker 415876;1386700470;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 980.1211, Best ask: 984.0, Bid-ask spread: 3.87890, Last trade: 980.1211, 24 hour volume: 15740.77510427, 24 hour low: 864.0, 24 hour high: 985.0, 24 hour vwap: 941.24088 415877;1386700577;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 600 @ 0.00290015 = 1.7401 BTC [-] {9} 415878;1386700585;Korbman;the sooner the better...I've got some bills coming up :P 415879;1386700760;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34169 BTC [+] 415880;1386700821;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.1173 = 0.3519 BTC [+] {3} 415881;1386700826;nubbins`;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_1sA0PVArw 415882;1386700827;ozbot;Jonathan Richman - Girlfriend / Roadrunner - YouTube 415883;1386700951;nubbins`;"well, that's a G-I-R-L-F-R-E-N / that's a girlfriend / that's somethin' that i'd understand" 415884;1386701042;nubbins`;amazíng 415885;1386701065;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.118 BTC [+] 415886;1386701213;nubbins`;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mH5nJfMjvM 415887;1386701213;ozbot;Jonathan Richman - YouTube 415888;1386701309;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.05 = 0.7 BTC 415889;1386701334;thestringpuller;is there a way to grep all the trades from the logs? 415890;1386701353;TomServo;Is this a trick question? 415891;1386701399;deadweasel;interesting development method: http://tip4commit.com/projects/102 415892;1386701416;Kleeck;Wow. Apparently I'm banned from #bitconmarkets. I feel I should celebrate. 415893;1386701429;jurov;;;ticker 415894;1386701430;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1017.0, Best ask: 1019.0, Bid-ask spread: 2.00000, Last trade: 1019.0, 24 hour volume: 17521.42724005, 24 hour low: 864.0, 24 hour high: 1019.99999, 24 hour vwap: 947.92164 415895;1386701431;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.34169 = 1.0251 BTC [+] 415896;1386701433;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2500 @ 0.000115 = 0.2875 BTC [-] 415897;1386701434;Kleeck;well, #bitcoinmarkets, not bitconmarkets 415898;1386701466;mircea_popescu;Kleeck all the chans i never knew existed 415899;1386701467;jurov;thestringpuller, just watch #bitcoin-assets-trades? 415900;1386701479;jurov;this one is censored anyway 415901;1386701491;Kleeck;bitcoinmarkets used to be good... once upon a time... 415902;1386701504;mircea_popescu;http://bitbet.us/bet/519/btc-network-difficulty-to-top-1b-before-2014/ << is this over 1mn fiats yet ? 415903;1386701506;ozbot;BitBet - BTC network difficulty to top 1B before 2014 415904;1386701673;mircea_popescu;http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Screenshot-from-2013-12-09-222015.png << i wonder how acurate that shit is. 415905;1386701678;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo mostly read by rich azns ? 415906;1386701929;ThickAsThieves;;;ticker 415907;1386701931;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1015.0, Best ask: 1024.0, Bid-ask spread: 9.00000, Last trade: 1015.0, 24 hour volume: 18596.29822859, 24 hour low: 864.0, 24 hour high: 1025.06084, 24 hour vwap: 952.12501 415908;1386701966;nubbins`;ThickAsThieves: anyway, to answer your question from earlier, i'm not sure there's a way to write a song about bitcoin that isn't funny 415909;1386702029;ThickAsThieves;MPOE-PR writes about bitcoin without being funny 415910;1386702041;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6550 @ 0.00086631 = 5.6743 BTC [-] 415911;1386702063;nubbins`;well, arguably, but assuming that's so -- it doesn't mean it can translate into music with a straight face 415912;1386702089;ThickAsThieves;angry hateful music 415913;1386702104;ThickAsThieves;or fed up music 415914;1386702120;ThickAsThieves;or elitist 415915;1386702121;nubbins`;nine inch nails by and for financial professionals 415916;1386702130;thestringpuller;nine inch nails is far from elitist 415917;1386702132;thestringpuller;don't even go there 415918;1386702135;nubbins`;songs raging about bond returns 415919;1386702139;thestringpuller;dude 415920;1386702139;nubbins`;lel 415921;1386702140;pankkake;https://bitbucket.org/pankkake/asslyrics/src/555a4ed277d25c919e519e15106148037e19827c/hotelbitcoinica.txt?at=master 415922;1386702141;ozbot;pankkake / asslyrics 415923;1386702142;thestringpuller;no 415924;1386702142;thestringpuller;no 415925;1386702144;thestringpuller;NO 415926;1386702150;nubbins`;ah, my sides 415927;1386702150;thestringpuller;Lol. 415928;1386702157;thestringpuller;The Fragile is the most gangsta album ever 415929;1386702164;thestringpuller;You know why? Because Dr. Dre helped Trent mix it. 415930;1386702177;nubbins`;"the fragile / she doesn't see her beauty / i won't let you fall apart" 415931;1386702182;nubbins`;pre-t-t-y gangsta 415932;1386702186;thestringpuller;MPOE-PR is more of straight thrash metal 415933;1386702189;thestringpuller;like some Slayer Shit 415934;1386702191;thestringpuller;Reign of Blood yo 415935;1386702196;nubbins`;well sure 415936;1386702204;nubbins`;but can you imagine slayer singing about bitcoins? 415937;1386702220;thestringpuller;I can imagine lil jon sampling slayer and rapping about bitcoins 415938;1386702222;ThickAsThieves;pankkake this would be a good Zhou Thong track 415939;1386702241;nubbins`;thestringpuller: and i can imagine my sides literally splitting open 415940;1386702251;pankkake;the hardest part for me is that I don't know if it sounds right 415941;1386702252;ThickAsThieves;other than that it mentions him... 415942;1386702258;pankkake;eh 415943;1386702264;pankkake;also I don't know much about Bitcoinica 415944;1386702279;ThickAsThieves;gox supposedly has the money 415945;1386702287;ThickAsThieves;is part of that story 415946;1386702316;ThickAsThieves;Ballin' With Mark 415947;1386702342;nubbins`;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl8EHxGJSwc 415948;1386702343;ozbot;Jonathan Richman - Lonely Financial Zone 1976.wmv - YouTube 415949;1386702344;thestringpuller;broke nigga's wanna jack shit tight 415950;1386702347;thestringpuller;JUST BOUGHT A CADILLAC 415951;1386702371;pankkake;google translate's thing has the worst reading ever 415952;1386702614;twizt;anyone know a good btc/ltc datafeed 415953;1386702621;twizt;real-time 415954;1386702697;benkay;;;ticker --market btcavg 415955;1386702697;gribble;BitcoinAverage BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 964.84, Best ask: 969.76, Bid-ask spread: 4.92000, Last trade: 967.5, 24 hour volume: 70816.6, 24 hour low: None, 24 hour high: None, 24 hour vwap: 917.99 415956;1386702745;benkay;wowee mpoe 415957;1386702834;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.05 = 0.25 BTC 415958;1386703201;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17050 @ 0.00086769 = 14.7941 BTC [+] {2} 415959;1386703241;benkay;i want to see an s.nsa ssh dongle too. 415960;1386703321;FabianB_;;;bc,stats 415961;1386703323;gribble;Current Blocks: 274217 | Current Difficulty: 9.08350862437022E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 276191 | Next Difficulty In: 1974 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 16 hours, 14 minutes, and 7 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 1239200145.04 | Estimated Percent Change: 36.42307 415962;1386703332;FabianB_;wtf 415963;1386703389;pankkake;;;estimate 415964;1386703390;gribble;Next difficulty estimate | 1239200145.04 based on data since last change | 894132728.373 based on data for last three days 415965;1386703591;asciilifeform;benkay: ssh dongle? 415966;1386703612;benkay;wave hands to a certain extent 415967;1386703622;asciilifeform;still curious what you had in mind. 415968;1386703626;benkay;but i want to ssh into a box with a cardano-like device 415969;1386703687;benkay;i suppose this is possible with a vm on a usb stick 415970;1386703703;asciilifeform;what you're probably thinking of (or what you will think of, if you think long enough) is: secure terminal. complete with keyboard and display. 415971;1386703719;asciilifeform;this could happen at some point. 415972;1386703734;benkay;educate me plz! 415973;1386703770;benkay;ah i imagine because i have to enter plaintext at some point on the potentially compromised computer 415974;1386703781;asciilifeform;benkay: hardware is not a magic pill. it must have a purpose. consider what parts of your current setup strike you as questionable. 415975;1386703837;thestringpuller;i have toy fishies in my water cool line 415976;1386703847;thestringpuller;they go around like an aquarium pretty dope 415977;1386703853;thestringpuller;that's the only reason I have water cooling 415978;1386703871;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.05 = 0.25 BTC 415979;1386703932;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14332 @ 0.00086865 = 12.4495 BTC [+] 415980;1386703937;asciilifeform;thestringpuller: suggested experiment: add to your water tank, a few drops of the 'perfume' used to scent natural gas. 415981;1386703947;asciilifeform;you will almost certainly discover that your machine leaks. 415982;1386704119;mircea_popescu;mercaptane 415983;1386704141;asciilifeform;methyl mercaptane, right. you can buy it easily enough. 415984;1386704157;asciilifeform;don't pop the vial indoors. 415985;1386704176;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 9 @ 0.0254 = 0.2286 BTC [+] 415986;1386704220;asciilifeform;i had cpu water for a few years, '01-04. lost quite a few boards to slow leaks, despite first-class seals. 415987;1386704223;asciilifeform;'water grinds even stone.' 415988;1386704258;deadweasel;most water cooled pumps will gurgle a bit while they get going, right? 415989;1386704268;benkay;what are the downsides of oil cooling systems? 415990;1386704276;asciilifeform;impeller pumps designed for aquarium, yes. 415991;1386704277;deadweasel;maintenance 415992;1386704286;deadweasel;asciilifeform: thanks. 415993;1386704289;asciilifeform;well, immersion oil sucks. you will burst electrolytic caps 415994;1386704298;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 668 @ 0.00086997 = 0.5811 BTC [+] 415995;1386704301;asciilifeform;and all exposed contacts will be coated. no upgrades. 415996;1386704334;asciilifeform;people with infinite money use Fluorinert (as seen in Cray II.) $500/liter or so. 415997;1386704357;asciilifeform;phun phact: fluorinert dissolves oxygen very readily - you can breathe under it. 415998;1386704359;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.118 BTC [+] 415999;1386704379;asciilifeform;http://i.imgur.com/G3hgX.jpg 416000;1386704420;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.32515999 = 2.2761 BTC [-] {6} 416001;1386704477;asciilifeform;just about any oil you can get cheaply is poisonous, flammable, or both. 416002;1386704481;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.3201 = 0.6402 BTC [-] 416003;1386704482;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 6666 @ 0.00299882 = 19.9901 BTC [-] {4} 416004;1386704552;asciilifeform;if you're going for classical (thermoblocks, pipes) vs. immersion cooling, use water. it pretty much can't be beat re: heat capacity. 416005;1386704579;mike_c;has a human ever tried to breathe fluorinert? 416006;1386704640;asciilifeform;mike_c: afaik it's been used in medicine - children born with breathing problems, or something like that 416007;1386704657;asciilifeform;not standard, because $$$$$ 416008;1386704678;mike_c;crazy. i'll put it at the bottom of the bucket list. 416009;1386704680;asciilifeform;usually cheaper to make a new baby 416010;1386704725;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.003 = 0.3 BTC [+] 416011;1386704731;asciilifeform;always wondered if some truly loaded fellow has a swimming pool of fluorinert. 416012;1386704764;asciilifeform;i wouldn't - you still have to get the stuff out of your lungs eventually 416013;1386704768;asciilifeform;(head stand?) 416014;1386704806;asciilifeform;ever see a stage performer breathe sulfur hexafluoride? 416015;1386704811;asciilifeform;opposite of 'helium voice' 416016;1386704816;mike_c;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_breathing#Medical_treatment 416017;1386704817;ozbot;Liquid breathing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 416018;1386704823;asciilifeform;heavier than air, so you have to do a head stand afterwards. 416019;1386704969;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.3203 = 1.6015 BTC [+] {2} 416020;1386705030;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.31939999 = 3.194 BTC [-] {4} 416021;1386705142;mircea_popescu;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=362959.0 416022;1386705143;ozbot;Looking for IPO Partner: Butter-Bot.com 416023;1386705144;mircea_popescu;butt-er bot! 416024;1386705152;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.00086996 = 13.1364 BTC [-] 416025;1386705213;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 46 @ 0.00331447 = 0.1525 BTC [-] {3} 416026;1386705233;benkay;thinnerthanthieves 416027;1386705241;mike_c;even better use for fluorinert - fat free potato chips. 416028;1386705243;mike_c;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4gYv2BK-HQ 416029;1386705243;ozbot;Frying a potato chip in Fluorinert FC-40 - YouTube 416030;1386705292;mircea_popescu;im not so sure perfluorohexane is safe for ingestion tbh 416031;1386705303;thestringpuller;;;google work to do 416032;1386705304;gribble;WORK TO DO - Isley Brothers - YouTube: ; Work to Do - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; The Isley Brothers – Work To Do – Listen and discover music at Last ...: 416033;1386705306;mike_c;he said he's not eating the chip. 416034;1386705333;TomServo;there's this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52UAEQfMTtU 416035;1386705335;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.0033 = 0.132 BTC [-] {2} 416036;1386705363;TomServo;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52UAEQfMTtU 416037;1386705364;ozbot;Mythbusters - Helium and Sulfur Hexafluoride - YouTube 416038;1386705379;benkay;hey Sabroshi where all the coins at 416039;1386705393;KRS|Gotyawallet;thestringpuller: if you lke isey brothers do you like contagious? 416040;1386705397;KRS|Gotyawallet;thats my fav 416041;1386705423;Sabroshi;They are right behind you 416042;1386705455;thestringpuller;KRS|Gotyawallet: that's really recent 416043;1386705459;mike_c;yeah, eating it seems bad: At Cray Research we used Flourinert extensively in the Tritons, and if we ever had a 'burn', where a circuit failed and heated it to boiling, we had to evacuate the building immediately, as the gas is the most powerful carcinogen known... 1 part in 5 billion if memory serves 416044;1386705476;thestringpuller;well recent in comparison to other Isely discogrpahy timeline 416045;1386705485;thestringpuller;but yea that's a dope song 416046;1386705517;thestringpuller;i feel though it is a rehash of Footsteps in the Dark 416047;1386705518;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.118 = 0.236 BTC [+] 416048;1386705579;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.31771428 = 2.224 BTC [-] {3} 416049;1386705640;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.3125 = 2.5 BTC [-] {2} 416050;1386705701;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 55 @ 0.31078944 = 17.0934 BTC [-] {15} 416051;1386705845;jurov;omg havelock... another day, anoher ipo 416052;1386705881;jurov;https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=SFI 416053;1386705892;thestringpuller;lolololol 416054;1386706096;mike_c;limited partners buy into a vc fund and don't expect to see it back for 10 years 416055;1386706141;mike_c;somehow i doubt sfi investors are prepared for that. 416056;1386706181;mike_c;plus the fact that all their money will be gone within 1 year anyway. 416057;1386706189;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 31 @ 0.00324534 = 0.1006 BTC [-] {6} 416058;1386706372;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.3105 = 1.242 BTC [-] 416059;1386706433;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24077 @ 0.00087014 = 20.9504 BTC [+] {3} 416060;1386706433;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 71 @ 0.30999293 = 22.0095 BTC [-] {7} 416061;1386706434;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 52 @ 0.00307694 = 0.16 BTC [-] {2} 416062;1386706494;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.30896266 = 0.9269 BTC [-] {2} 416063;1386706616;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.31240004 = 2.8116 BTC [+] {3} 416064;1386707043;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 45 @ 0.30599189 = 13.7696 BTC [-] {15} 416065;1386707155;benkay;jurov: they're funding a wallet! 416066;1386707184;jurov;? 416067;1386707198;benkay;jurov: the list of 'startup descriptions' reads like a list of 'look at these sweet companies we want to copy and or 'invest' into!' 416068;1386707207;benkay;SFI and grabhive.com 416069;1386707287;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.05 = 0.3 BTC 416070;1386707828;kanzure;"international bitcoin fund for jerks capable of deploying twitter bootstrap themes" 416071;1386707836;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 100 @ 0.05 = 5 BTC 416072;1386707837;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.3015 = 1.809 BTC [-] {2} 416073;1386707840;kanzure;i IPO in 3 minutes who's with me 416074;1386707854;dub;how much for a board seat 416075;1386707897;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.31925 = 2.554 BTC [+] {2} 416076;1386707898;benkay;bitcoin nanotech 416077;1386707898;kanzure;not how it works, the company has to pay the board members 416078;1386707905;benkay;5nm asics 416079;1386707926;benkay;sorry 5 angstrom asics 416080;1386707931;benkay;amazing team 416081;1386707931;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 416082;1386707935;benkay;thanks assbot 416083;1386708025;kanzure;it can only go up/down so it's virtually guaranteed 416084;1386708080;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 252 @ 0.00049999 = 0.126 BTC [-] 416085;1386708152;pankkake;https://bitbucket.org/pankkake/asslyrics/src/8a654342a5b6c58881b206b92982ffed7fe3777a/gottabuythemall.txt?at=master 416086;1386708153;ozbot;pankkake / asslyrics 416087;1386708166;the20year;how'd they get size down so small when intel is still on 18nm? 416088;1386708188;pankkake;the chinese have tinier hands 416089;1386708202;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1336 @ 0.000115 = 0.1536 BTC [-] 416090;1386708205;jurov;woo pankkake on a roll 416091;1386708223;pankkake;and I haven't slept for 24hours 416092;1386708232;pankkake;ok maybe that explains it 416093;1386708267;jurov;lol you'll wake up tomorrow wanting to discard it all 416094;1386708287;jurov;don't do it 416095;1386708305;pankkake;I can't really judge it, because it's all in broken english in my head 416096;1386708338;jurov;trash metal dont need no engrish 416097;1386708419;jurov;you have to find a vocalist with fitting accent tho 416098;1386708503;kanzure;cypriot black metal? 416099;1386708564;jurov;o i forgot you already have hannah .. bah, she'll manage :) 416100;1386708627;mircea_popescu;kanzure> "international bitcoin fund for jerks capable of deploying twitter bootstrap themes" << word 416101;1386708629;mircea_popescu;dude who are you. 416102;1386708651;kanzure;i do stuff https://github.com/kanzure 416103;1386708678;mircea_popescu;new people who are not retarded award. so refreshing. 416104;1386708690;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.003 = 0.3 BTC [+] 416105;1386708701;benkay;there was a css education session yesterday. 416106;1386708707;benkay;learns quickly award. 416107;1386708720;mircea_popescu;the end days are near. 416108;1386708723;kanzure;i am not really new but whatever 416109;1386708743;mircea_popescu;kanzure a good for you then 416110;1386708785;mircea_popescu;kanzure http://www.theverge.com/2013/7/1/4485102/winklevoss-bitcoin-trust-aims-to-introduce-investors-to-alternative-curency ? 416111;1386708796;kanzure;what about it 416112;1386708807;mircea_popescu;that your article ? 416113;1386708821;kanzure;oh, unfortunately that's a different asshole named bryan 416114;1386708825;mircea_popescu;i 416115;1386708825;mircea_popescu;c 416116;1386708830;kanzure;there's also a third one that has cancer so i can't talk too much shit about him 416117;1386708832;mircea_popescu;so what you been up to ? 416118;1386708849;dub;heh 416119;1386708863;dub;pankkake is correct 416120;1386708864;kanzure;software contracting 416121;1386708896;mircea_popescu;in bitcoin i mean. if not new, then therefore you been doing something ? or just following it ? 416122;1386708919;kanzure;lurking i guess 416123;1386708924;mircea_popescu;aha. cool. 416124;1386708949;kanzure;breaking APIs 416125;1386708957;kanzure;unauthorized infosec stuff 416126;1386709002;dub;im working with a chinese vendor in a poc lab on one of my projects, you need tiny hands to work with some of the gear 416127;1386709010;mircea_popescu;nothing published tho ? 416128;1386709026;kanzure;i published a paper in the journal of nucleic acid research, does that count? (probably not) 416129;1386709039;kanzure;excuse me, i mean nucleic acids research 416130;1386709048;mircea_popescu;re api breaking hehe 416131;1386709056;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13900 @ 0.00086625 = 12.0409 BTC [-] {2} 416132;1386709063;kanzure;nah, unfortunately not 416133;1386709089;kanzure;last year i started downloading all android apps and automatically baksmiling them for various reverse engineering reasons 416134;1386709096;kanzure;some of the ad networks have very interesting financial data exposed to end users 416135;1386709117;kanzure;so i'm expecting some of the bitcoin apps will have weird APIs laying around that they forgot to secure from old versions of their apps, etc 416136;1386709132;mircea_popescu;ha 416137;1386709148;kanzure;i mean, it's something i would forget, so i'm sure other dorks will too 416138;1386709239;mircea_popescu;well, i'm all for publicly humiliating the vc circuit and its minions, so, 416139;1386709264;mircea_popescu;if you need either incentive to break into any bitcoin mobile app or venue to publish the results, i'll gladly listen 416140;1386709277;kanzure;incentive? 416141;1386709289;mircea_popescu;well yes. 416142;1386709984;kanzure;dunno what that means in this case 416143;1386710215;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6871 @ 0.00086722 = 5.9587 BTC [+] {2} 416144;1386710238;mircea_popescu;well, what motivates you ? 416145;1386710276;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.00086505 = 11.2457 BTC [-] {2} 416146;1386710398;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 108 @ 0.00290017 = 0.3132 BTC [-] {7} 416147;1386710459;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 457 @ 0.0029 = 1.3253 BTC [-] {7} 416148;1386710539;Vexual;Mi aerodeslizador se ha enredado en sus arbustos. Necesitaré una compensación monetaria. 416149;1386710581;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21414 @ 0.00086491 = 18.5212 BTC [-] {3} 416150;1386710642;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.05 = 1 BTC 416151;1386710703;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [7C] 100 @ 0.0077 = 0.77 BTC 416152;1386710947;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 890 @ 0.0005 = 0.445 BTC [+] {4} 416153;1386710980;thestringpuller;gpg rules everything around me 416154;1386711130;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5553 @ 0.0008645 = 4.8006 BTC [-] {2} 416155;1386711313;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12660 @ 0.00086444 = 10.9438 BTC [-] 416156;1386711424;ll;gream? 416157;1386711708;kanzure;and here i thought they were just yelling out cream for no good reason 416158;1386711739;thestringpuller;nice 416159;1386711745;thestringpuller;people get the wu-tang references 416160;1386711750;thestringpuller;lets get da crypto crypto coin yo 416161;1386711763;thestringpuller;mircea_popescu stackin' dem coins till they sky high 416162;1386711807;kanzure;https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17612316/AUDIO/i_have_btc_no_i_wont_link_my_blockchain_lol_noob.mp3 416163;1386711808;dub;yro.slashdot.org/story/13/12/10/2117234/jpmorgan-files-patent-application-on-bitcoin-killer 416164;1386711825;kanzure;ah hell i meant 416165;1386711827;kanzure;https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17612316/AUDIO/i_have_btc_no_i_wont_link_my_blockchain_lol_noob.mp3?dl=1 416166;1386711856;Apocalyptic;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=258612.msg3827831#msg3827831 416167;1386711858;ozbot;[BitFunder] Ukyo.Loan - Paying 0.05% daily. 416168;1386711873;Apocalyptic;"I hope this is the case, I invested with Ukyo due to his reputation" // what kind of reputation did this guy have ? 416169;1386711903;Sabroshi;What am I sposed to do with shares that people never claim? 416170;1386711933;kanzure;you want the serious answer or the irc answer? 416171;1386711937;ll;heh i havent heard nerdcore in a while 416172;1386711962;Sabroshi;whatever answer you prefer 416173;1386711966;Apocalyptic;kanzure, both 416174;1386711974;pankkake;awesome mp3 416175;1386711996;dub;Apocalyptic: he made a website with css and some oldschool tards vouched for him 416176;1386712038;Apocalyptic;" he made a website with css" , ok I stopped right here, that's solid 416177;1386712053;dub;of course he failed the simplest of bitcointalk tests 416178;1386712096;dub;has anime avatar == will lose/steal peoples money 416179;1386712118;thestringpuller;;;gettrust Ukyo 416180;1386712118;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user Ukyo: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=thestringpuller&dest=Ukyo | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Ukyo | Rated since: never 416181;1386712123;thestringpuller;;;gettrust Ukto 416182;1386712124;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user Ukto: Level 1: 0, Level 2: -2 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=thestringpuller&dest=Ukto | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Ukto | Rated since: Wed Jun 15 00:24:56 2011 416183;1386712137;thestringpuller;wow i guess I shouldn't trust him 416184;1386712157;mircea_popescu;dub it's like the 3rd pass with that :p 416185;1386712176;thestringpuller;wow both mircea_popescu and kakobrekla -1'ed him 416186;1386712184;mircea_popescu;Apocalyptic he had an ok reputation, been around forever, did a sort of hash exchange before that closed down cleanrly 416187;1386712192;thestringpuller;didn't usagi have an anime avatar 416188;1386712195;mircea_popescu;had been running weex with graet ok for years etc 416189;1386712215;thestringpuller;;;gettrust Graet 416190;1386712215;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user Graet: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=thestringpuller&dest=Graet | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Graet | Rated since: Sun Jun 19 09:41:28 2011 416191;1386712220;thestringpuller;;;gettrust usagi 416192;1386712221;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user usagi: Level 1: 0, Level 2: -2 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=thestringpuller&dest=usagi | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=usagi | Rated since: Mon Jun 18 12:33:55 2012 416193;1386712240;dub;thestringpuller: yes 416194;1386712284;jcpham;;;rated ukto 416195;1386712284;gribble;You have not yet rated user ukto 416196;1386712295;jcpham;;;rated ukyo 416197;1386712295;gribble;You have not yet rated user ukyo 416198;1386712716;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 0.15 = 0.3 BTC [-] 416199;1386713143;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18000 @ 0.00086478 = 15.566 BTC [+] {2} 416200;1386713693;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 472 @ 0.00299354 = 1.413 BTC [+] {5} 416201;1386713875;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.05 = 0.5 BTC 416202;1386713932;dub; Looking for answer to question -- also looking for extending outsourced network team 416203;1386713937;dub; PM for details -- projects are per-job basis split 50% overhead / 50% direct to you, no taxes withheld, payout in BTC, PayPal, or my elance, odesk, or freelancer acct. 416204;1386713949;dub;from a network vendor channel 416205;1386714059;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9450 @ 0.00086609 = 8.1846 BTC [+] 416206;1386714108;mircea_popescu;nice 416207;1386714241;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19250 @ 0.00086408 = 16.6335 BTC [-] {2} 416208;1386714544;Apocalyptic;where would I go for some long term LTC loan ? 416209;1386714594;kanzure;dub: where's that? 416210;1386714716;thestringpuller;can I get a 1000 btc loan 416211;1386714719;thestringpuller;will repay in 10 years 416212;1386714723;thestringpuller;need for mortgage 416213;1386714725;thestringpuller;k thx by 416214;1386714727;thestringpuller;bai* 416215;1386715339;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 42 @ 0.00307734 = 0.1292 BTC [-] {5} 416216;1386715438;jborkl;Bitcointalk gets better and better- now the discussion in the Activemining thread values the Amazing company at 1.85 Billion USD 416217;1386715521;mircea_popescu;lol 416218;1386715534;mircea_popescu;basically it's s.mpoe x2, whatever that may be ? 416219;1386715546;jborkl;seems amazing to me 416220;1386715546;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 416221;1386715548;Apocalyptic;wait 416222;1386715562;Apocalyptic;1.85 Billion, that's a joke 416223;1386715568;jborkl;and Havelock only needs to IPO 8 more things to be amazing 416224;1386715568;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 416225;1386715577;Kleeck_;It should be a joke. 416226;1386715583;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.0008636 = 7.5997 BTC [-] 416227;1386715597;Apocalyptic;i get so much IPO spam from Havelock... 416228;1386715616;jborkl;Nothing on the forum is a joke, somewhere someone thinks it is so... 416229;1386715629;Apocalyptic;the last one 2 hours ago : "Seedcoin Fund is the first global seed-stage Bitcoin startup fund. The funds in bitcoin raised through this public offering will be invested in a portfolio of Bitcoin startups to be incubated by Seedcoin" 416230;1386715661;jborkl;did you read the "incubated" amazing companies 416231;1386715661;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 416232;1386715695;Apocalyptic;I did 416233;1386715711;jborkl;sounds promising :/ 416234;1386715733;mircea_popescu;what exactly makes anyone think seedcoin knows the first thing about "incubating" ? 416235;1386715737;mircea_popescu;why not succubate, while at it. 416236;1386715749;Apocalyptic;the only one that may be legit is Moneero 416237;1386715791;benkay;who knows, Hive might actually make a usable OS X wallet. 416238;1386715793;mircea_popescu;all the no-name noobs with complicated models. the unmitigated audacity of it all, nobody fucking heard of starting small, everyone thinks they're born straight to the top of the food chain 416239;1386715794;jborkl;Well, it has the word seed in it, so they have to know by default 416240;1386715859;jborkl;cause if I name myself El Jefe, I have to be the man 416241;1386715867;mircea_popescu;it's getting old 416242;1386715879;benkay;not as old as you 416243;1386715895;mircea_popescu;benkay how much money do you think there is in making an osx wallet ? 416244;1386715898;benkay;BITBURN 416245;1386715904;mircea_popescu;10mn dollars ? 1 bn dollars ? 416246;1386715906;mircea_popescu;10 cents ? 416247;1386715922;benkay;not a terrible lot 416248;1386715932;benkay;but i don't think end users should be managing their wallets in any event 416249;1386715936;mircea_popescu;kinda renders the entire point moot 416250;1386715975;benkay;enough money to sustain an individual on donations and freeware nagging 416251;1386715989;benkay;in cambodia. 416252;1386716002;jborkl;Who uses a mac anyway, we can boot them all off of IRC with one ﲬ 416253;1386716030;benkay;a rather large chunk of the 'computer' using population. 416254;1386716059;benkay;although if apple gets their way with the jailed platforms one won't be able to actually run a bitcoin client on any OS X instance. 416255;1386716084;benkay;a friend and i came up with an amusing scenario where the refusal to play with bitcoin drives apple out of the mobile game 416256;1386716116;pankkake;the general hating freedom thing does 416257;1386716117;kanzure;i think bitcoin people will make a patent defense fund and nuke apple from orbit instead 416258;1386716117;kanzure;e.g. some sort of defensive patent fund 416259;1386716122;mircea_popescu;benkay that amusing scenario is s.mg policy. 416260;1386716129;dub;well like mtgox it seems no amount of failure will shake loose the diehards 416261;1386716139;kanzure;the reason that apple doesn't want cryptocurrencies on ios is related to mobile payments and their own ios5 wallet system 416262;1386716162;mircea_popescu;dub https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=361664.msg3889871#msg3889871 point in case. 416263;1386716180;jborkl;you just reminded me to see if my micro AWS was done DL the block chain 416264;1386716180;kanzure;and everyone and their mom filed patents on sending payments over mobile phones etc 416265;1386716192;benkay;kanzure: and that 30% rake. 416266;1386716197;kanzure;oh yeah, the rake 416267;1386716209;mircea_popescu;i seen the future and there's no apple in it. 416268;1386716211;kanzure;i'm not sure how much of that 30% is going to liabilities 416269;1386716216;jborkl;4 days and 90% done 416270;1386716223;jborkl;smokin 416271;1386716232;kanzure;jborkl: are you using a torrent? 416272;1386716250;jborkl;no, well I hooked it up to one of my nodes 416273;1386716255;jborkl;so yes 416274;1386716306;jborkl;so kinda, it is the free tier so I just wanted to see how it does 416275;1386716336;dub;mircea_popescu: is it lost on you/her that trying to help people who are beyond help is a less pleasurable way of fucking your own ass? 416276;1386716357;dub;seems like so much effort expended for so little potential reward 416277;1386716432;benkay;so much effort and so many buttcorns all for the forumlols 416278;1386716437;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14200 @ 0.00086383 = 12.2664 BTC [+] {2} 416279;1386716527;benkay;grammar question 416280;1386716541;benkay;"trading on MPEx" or "trading on the MPEx" 416281;1386716556;dub;latter 416282;1386716569;dub;better yet "trading the bitcoin on the mpex" 416283;1386716577;thestringpuller;trading on the MPEx to get some sex 416284;1386716584;Apocalyptic;word 416285;1386716605;benkay;one way it implies "trading on Mircea Popescu's Exchange" 416286;1386716624;benkay;the other way it's an exchange that happens to be named for MP ; "trading on the Mircea Popescu Exchange" 416287;1386716650;jurov;just use "the Exchange" :D 416288;1386716667;jurov;or _the_ Exchange 416289;1386716693;benkay;"the Exchange" it is. 416290;1386716770;benkay;json 416291;1386716778;benkay;what an unmitigated fuckhole of a transmission format 416292;1386716792;benkay;"yes please put my longs in a string" 416293;1386716828;jurov;or chuckles? can't decide 416294;1386716839;benkay;try tittering insanely 416295;1386716857;benkay;that always works for me, for some value of work. 416296;1386716864;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 732 @ 0.00299331 = 2.1911 BTC [+] {2} 416297;1386717047;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 157 @ 0.0030755 = 0.4829 BTC [-] {6} 416298;1386717125;dub;;;ud tittering 416299;1386717126;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Tittering | To loiter around the breasts. Physically or optically. 416300;1386717131;ozbot;Urban Dictionary: Tittering 416301;1386717138;benkay;;;ud titter 416302;1386717139;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=titter | Breasts that are abnormally large causing a man, who initially sees them, to get an immediate erection within his genital area. 416303;1386717140;ozbot;Urban Dictionary: titter 416304;1386717175;jurov;there can be erecion outside genital area? 416305;1386717177;Bunnyh;can you get an erection elsewhere? 416306;1386717181;Bunnyh;lol 416307;1386717264;mircea_popescu;dub what's being said to idiots is usually said fo rthe benefit of third parties rather than the idiots themselves 416308;1386717495;jurov;benkay: https://github.com/jurov/MPExAgent/blob/master/agent.py#L153 applies to whole rest of that function 416309;1386717502;jurov;hence, giggles 416310;1386717532;benkay;wow mpsic twice in holdings that happens? 416311;1386717557;benkay;or defensive programming? 416312;1386717558;jurov;with mpex anything can happen 416313;1386717584;benkay;i always get this feeling of impending doom when i see .aspx or .php 416314;1386717604;benkay;and am interacting with appliance on the other end of the wire 416315;1386717606;jurov;i have once seen inexplicable +0400 timezone in one stat, the previous and the next one were in +0000 416316;1386717612;jurov;for example 416317;1386717616;benkay;wow 416318;1386717617;benkay;WOW 416319;1386718105;mircea_popescu;benkay sup ? 416320;1386718157;benkay;hey boss 416321;1386718203;benkay;whatchu want? 416322;1386718206;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.0008644 = 5.3593 BTC [+] 416323;1386718290;mircea_popescu;wow wut ? 416324;1386718301;benkay;nuffin 416325;1386718352;benkay;saw some interesting error handling code in jurov's wrapper around the mpex api 416326;1386718406;jurov;what if i'm just trying to scare other wannabe brokers? :D 416327;1386718433;benkay;no need to scare 'em jurov just keep 'em busy 416328;1386718450;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.305001 BTC [-] 416329;1386718495;mike_c;;;bc,stats 416330;1386718497;gribble;Current Blocks: 274239 | Current Difficulty: 9.08350862437022E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 276191 | Next Difficulty In: 1952 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 23 hours, 1 minute, and 13 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 1034822487.37 | Estimated Percent Change: 13.92321 416331;1386718501;jurov;oh, mp manages that nicely 416332;1386718511;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.30404036 = 2.4323 BTC [-] {5} 416333;1386718528;benkay;orly 416334;1386718578;jurov;mircea_popescu: did you update the faq on mkopt/split already? 416335;1386718601;jurov;so that it considers option lot 416336;1386718630;mike_c;proposed bitbet: "snackman will bet on the 1b difficulty bet after its decided" 416337;1386718637;benkay;badbet 416338;1386718756;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.00295 = 1.475 BTC [-] 416339;1386718816;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 566 @ 0.00294 = 1.664 BTC [-] 416340;1386718877;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15975 @ 0.00086527 = 13.8227 BTC [+] {2} 416341;1386719259;mircea_popescu;jurov nope ;/ 416342;1386719487;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.3030112 = 0.606 BTC [-] 416343;1386719606;jurov;https://www.bitcoinforum.com/coinbr-com/mpoe-options-update-cheatsheet beat you :) 416344;1386719609;ozbot;MPOE Options Update + Cheatsheet - Bitcoin Forum - The Unofficial Bitcoin Forum 416345;1386719712;mircea_popescu;hehe cool 416346;1386719731;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.3030055 = 0.606 BTC [-] {2} 416347;1386719732;thestringpuller;;;seen jurov 416348;1386719732;gribble;jurov was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 minutes and 6 seconds ago: https://www.bitcoinforum.com/coinbr-com/mpoe-options-update-cheatsheet beat you :) 416349;1386719744;jurov;thestringpullerrrrrrrr 416350;1386719749;thestringpuller;yoyo 416351;1386719792;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 17 @ 0.30080881 = 5.1137 BTC [-] {5} 416352;1386719846;Apocalyptic;"Since December 29, the options lot changed" 416353;1386719852;Apocalyptic;you're sure about the date jurov ? 416354;1386719853;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 14 @ 0.30002856 = 4.2004 BTC [-] {7} 416355;1386719854;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 112 @ 0.0030543 = 0.3421 BTC [-] {7} 416356;1386719869;jurov;hahahaha now i see 416357;1386719911;jurov;fixed 416358;1386720527;benkay;;;ticker --market btcavg 416359;1386720528;gribble;BitcoinAverage BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 986.2, Best ask: 988.91, Bid-ask spread: 2.71000, Last trade: 986.01, 24 hour volume: 73623.76, 24 hour low: None, 24 hour high: None, 24 hour vwap: 939.64 416360;1386720768;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.29504006 = 1.4752 BTC [-] {3} 416361;1386720772;mircea_popescu;dude bitcoin back to 1k ? 416362;1386720780;mircea_popescu;and all the experts that knew better! 416363;1386720828;bVector;any idea why my quiznos bet suggestion was rejected? I wanted to make some quick money with insider information :P 416364;1386720853;jurov;good i'm no expert 416365;1386720872;jurov;even my yesterday's option deal was rather jerkass 416366;1386720906;mircea_popescu;bVector was it a .25 zeroconf ? 416367;1386721181;bVector;it was .25, did it not confirm? 416368;1386721197;benkay;profit for calls on a lotsize: ((spot - strike) / strike) * lotsize) - buyprice 416369;1386721204;benkay;y/n? 416370;1386721247;jurov;n 416371;1386721257;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 254 @ 0.00303002 = 0.7696 BTC [-] {3} 416372;1386721258;benkay;damn. 416373;1386721266;jurov;only if you convert the strike to full btc first 416374;1386721317;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1100 @ 0.00302533 = 3.3279 BTC [-] {6} 416375;1386721413;mircea_popescu;bVector it was a mistake, submit again please. 416376;1386721464;jurov;benkay have you seen the cheatsheet above? 416377;1386721487;benkay;there is some value in working it out from first principles, jurov 416378;1386721535;jurov;ofc :) just to have something to compare 416379;1386721644;BingoBoingo;And FreeBSD makes the sane decision to tell Intel and Via's hardware RNGs to STFU http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/12/we-cannot-trust-intel-and-vias-chip-based-crypto-freebsd-developers-say/ 416380;1386721764;bVector;mircea_popescu: submitted and funded again (unconfirmed so far) 416381;1386721787;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: that one was a double whammy of sorts 416382;1386721790;asciilifeform;notice what they did instead. 416383;1386721805;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 30 @ 0.05 = 1.5 BTC 416384;1386721819;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Yeah the now feed the borked RNG data through a borked schneier algo 416385;1386721828;asciilifeform;good, i don't need to draw a picture. 416386;1386721866;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.155 BTC [+] 416387;1386721870;asciilifeform;'good cop / bad cop.' old as time. 416388;1386721988;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 75 @ 0.00305668 = 0.2293 BTC [+] {3} 416389;1386722110;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3 BTC [+] 416390;1386722157;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: It almost seems like the Bitcoin Dev's "X.509 is perfect for signing payment requests" in spite of all of the times CAs have signed certs purporting to be controlled by one party while actually having been controlled by another party. The biggest difference is the FreeBSD devs might actually not know better. 416391;1386722232;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.3 = 2.4 BTC [+] 416392;1386722323;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: the motivations of people who try to bring PKI to bitcoin are no secret. 416393;1386722416;asciilifeform;i can't help but imagine some fellow at Meta-NSA, with a pill against ECDSA hidden under a flower pot in his office, laughing his arse off at these morons. 416394;1386722555;asciilifeform;(Meta-NSA is the Shangri-La where they keep the real cryptographers.) 416395;1386722878;mircea_popescu;http://satoshirat.com/ 416396;1386722879;ozbot;SatoshiRat 416397;1386722925;asciilifeform;yet another 'crack our RNG plz' contest? 416398;1386722951;asciilifeform;aren't there quite enough of those? 416399;1386722973;benkay;it's marginally better than that 416400;1386722980;benkay;it has an rpg/depletion aspect 416401;1386723031;mircea_popescu;and no house edge supposedly. 416402;1386723050;mircea_popescu;no way for you to verify that it doesnt seem like 416403;1386723181;asciilifeform;https://blockchain.info/address/1DTiiobTw8LTFwCRoVVCg1gYeBfe4tzyHN 416404;1386723182;ozbot;Bitcoin Address 1DTiiobTw8LTFwCRoVVCg1gYeBfe4tzyHN 416405;1386723183;asciilifeform;not bad 416406;1386723202;asciilifeform;when do we get 'SatoshiRoach' 416407;1386723246;asciilifeform;and why only augmentations. let the chumps buy ratpoison for a selected enemy rat. 416408;1386723303;asciilifeform;there is no mystery where the house edge is. 416409;1386723316;asciilifeform;since the author set the rules, he knows exactly how to optimize a rat. 416410;1386723332;asciilifeform;so he can collect the edge while appearing to be merely one of the players. 416411;1386723341;asciilifeform;if someone wises up, the rules will change. 416412;1386723358;asciilifeform;basic 'chumpatron.' 416413;1386723373;asciilifeform;straight from the analogue meatspace world. 416414;1386723410;asciilifeform;of the 'faux game of skill' species. 416415;1386723508;asciilifeform;modern people, who've never heard of carnival games, fall for the most basic shams imaginable. 416416;1386723513;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 0.16 = 0.32 BTC [+] 416417;1386723584;mircea_popescu;there does seem to be a disproportionate population of carnies in bitcoin 416418;1386723634;dub;you'd know 416419;1386723637;asciilifeform;from both sides of the stand. 416420;1386723688;asciilifeform;someone could probably squeeze out a meager living from cracking these chumpatrons. 416421;1386723808;asciilifeform;curiously absent are: actual games of skill. where is SatoshiChess or SatoshiGo? 416422;1386723850;mike_c;AI challenges.. 416423;1386723856;benkay;with betting 416424;1386723859;asciilifeform;well, the former. 416425;1386723872;benkay;why not SatoshiGo? 416426;1386723884;benkay;and how the heck does bitcoin play into either go or chess? 416427;1386723891;asciilifeform;because a serious player can beat the state-of-the-art machine there. 416428;1386723911;asciilifeform;benkay: easily enough. let people play for btc, collect fixed commission. 416429;1386723925;benkay;play versus each other with a stake? 416430;1386723933;asciilifeform;right. just like on park benches. 416431;1386723978;benkay;why does chess work in this scenario and not go? 416432;1386723988;asciilifeform;go works. chess devolves to AI contest. 416433;1386723997;benkay;gotcha 416434;1386723998;asciilifeform;in case that wasn't clear. 416435;1386724031;benkay;i r idiots 416436;1386724044;asciilifeform;go would produce a dual-tiered situation, with a population of idiots running machines against each other, and pros who clean them out at their leisure. 416437;1386724053;benkay;parsed "the former" as referring to games of skill 416438;1386724054;benkay;and chess 416439;1386724076;benkay;potentially a third tier too, augmented pros. 416440;1386724084;asciilifeform;right. 416441;1386724085;dub;you could do an irc/wot/pug4btc type thing 416442;1386724113;benkay;a chaotic upper zone with good players and good computers but bad process with bad players and good computers and good process, to mangle a thing someone once said. 416443;1386724115;dub;used to play cstrike pick up games organised by an IRC bot 416444;1386724141;asciilifeform;no point in 'policing' the arena for AI, i've met people who play rather like machines. 416445;1386724149;asciilifeform;let the race 'be to the swiftest.' 416446;1386724181;benkay;could always implement turn time limits 416447;1386724194;asciilifeform;alternatively, one could set up a contest explicitly for machines. 416448;1386724198;asciilifeform;see 'CoreWars.' 416449;1386724206;dub;http://pugbot.com/ should be trivial to plug btc into that 416450;1386724206;ozbot;PUGBOT - Brought to you by the Community 416451;1386724251;nubbins`;benkay: even a moderately skilled go player can beat a computer 416452;1386724264;nubbins`;not even a pro 416453;1386724282;nubbins`;it's too complex 416454;1386724285;benkay;nubbins` u so far behind again 416455;1386724295;benkay;tryna learn me about deterministic gameplay 416456;1386724299;asciilifeform;nubbins`: correct. there's been some brouhaha about go ai, but it pertains mainly to games on undersized boards. 416457;1386724305;nubbins`;nod 416458;1386724316;nubbins`;i mean, it was only within the past 5-10 years that checkers was solved 416459;1386724340;asciilifeform;(monte-carlo style searches, or even classical - e.g. A* work quite well on 9x9 board.) 416460;1386724352;benkay;"Weak human + machine + better process was superior to a strong computer alone and, more remarkably, superior to a strong human + machine + inferior process." 416461;1386724372;benkay;http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2010/feb/11/the-chess-master-and-the-computer/ 416462;1386724375;ozbot;The Chess Master and the Computer by Garry Kasparov | The New York Review of Books 416463;1386724391;nubbins`;i recall some years ago a guy was pitting an AMD cpu vs an intel cpu in a game of chess 416464;1386724410;asciilifeform;a 'strong human' in this context is simply one who knows how to use his machine correctly. 416465;1386724411;nubbins`;two different chess programs running on each, so 4 combinations of cpu/software 416466;1386724418;asciilifeform;think 'knife fight' rather than 'boxing match.' 416467;1386724425;nubbins`;unsurprisingly, it came down to the software and not the cpu. 416468;1386724441;benkay;asciilifeform: that's wrapping up human skill at game with human skill at computer 416469;1386724467;asciilifeform;when you can use machines at your leisure, it's a somewhat different game that you're playing. 416470;1386724474;benkay;indeed. 416471;1386724489;BingoBoingo;Seems like for chess 0.06 BTC per competitor is roughly the cost of turning match outcomes into coinflips this year http://www.hiarcs.com/pc-chess-deep-junior.htm 416472;1386724548;BingoBoingo;Though I imagine some people would spend more to get Rybka 416473;1386724550;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 98 @ 0.003 = 0.294 BTC [-] {2} 416474;1386724583;nubbins`;BingoBoingo: play a game in a bit? 416475;1386724587;asciilifeform;SatoshiGo is a far better idea 416476;1386724598;asciilifeform;no turning hardware straight into match outcomes, there. 416477;1386724601;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: Sure 416478;1386724612;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00293 = 0.293 BTC [-] {5} 416479;1386724613;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.308 BTC [+] 416480;1386724672;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00293 = 0.293 BTC [-] {4} 416481;1386725318;Ogedei;whats the chan with only ticker again? 416482;1386725331;benkay;-trades 416483;1386725344;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58600 @ 0.00086684 = 50.7968 BTC [+] {3} 416484;1386725352;Ogedei;thanks 416485;1386725363;benkay;well 416486;1386725365;benkay;-assets-trades 416487;1386725371;Ogedei;ya got it 416488;1386725373;kanzure;tell me other channels 416489;1386725383;benkay;.1btc per channel i suggest 416490;1386725385;nubbins`;-pit 416491;1386725404;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.3019999 = 0.604 BTC [-] 416492;1386725419;kanzure;[freenode] -!- Cannot join to channel #bitcoin-pit (You have joined to too many channels) 416493;1386725422;kanzure;fucking freenode 416494;1386725465;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 80 @ 0.02088942 = 1.6712 BTC [-] {10} 416495;1386725526;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 100 @ 0.01682315 = 1.6823 BTC [-] {5} 416496;1386725554;nubbins`;BingoBoingo: flip a ;;coin, i call heads 416497;1386725582;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: Heads 416498;1386725587;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.2922 = 0.5844 BTC [-] 416499;1386725588;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.155 = 0.465 BTC [+] 416500;1386725594;mike_c;;;coin 416501;1386725594;gribble;tails 416502;1386725597;mike_c;you both lose 416503;1386725603;nubbins`;haha 416504;1386725631;benkay;pretty sure BingoBoingo just actually flipped a coin. 416505;1386725644;nubbins`;ah, that makes more sense 416506;1386725646;BingoBoingo;Yeah, I forgot Gribble could 416507;1386725648;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.295 = 2.655 BTC [+] 416508;1386725649;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 19 @ 0.155 = 2.945 BTC [+] 416509;1386725656;nubbins`;1. d4 416510;1386725667;nubbins`;if anyone wants to play along, grab a board 416511;1386725670;BingoBoingo;d5 416512;1386725706;nubbins`;2. c3 416513;1386725709;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.30598665 = 0.918 BTC [+] {2} 416514;1386725727;BingoBoingo;Nf6 416515;1386725765;nubbins`;3. f4 416516;1386725766;dub;kanzure: um 416517;1386725798;dub;kanzure: freenode has a retarderly high chanlimit 416518;1386725822;BingoBoingo;Bf5 416519;1386725904;Ogedei;havelock just go down? 416520;1386725932;nubbins`;4. Nd2 416521;1386725933;kanzure;dub: it seems to be 200 416522;1386725935;benkay;SELL SELL 416523;1386725943;mircea_popescu;why the fuck would you be in 200 chans 416524;1386725946;nubbins`;200 chans, lel 416525;1386725948;mircea_popescu;i'm in like 2, of which one's mine 416526;1386725958;nubbins`;#mircea_popescu 416527;1386725968;BingoBoingo;e6 416528;1386725970;kanzure;because i actually contribute to these projects? 416529;1386725971;mircea_popescu;nah, #trilema 416530;1386725978;kanzure;and it's useful to communicate with the people i work with ? 416531;1386725980;kanzure;fuck off 416532;1386725992;nubbins`;oooo! 416533;1386725992;mircea_popescu;crazy 416534;1386725997;kanzure;yeah. 416535;1386726021;benkay;that's a lot of things across which to split ones attention 416536;1386726023;mircea_popescu;i dunno, i thought i'm overdoing irc. i guess not. 416537;1386726036;kanzure;benkay: i have a high capacity for attention i think 416538;1386726060;mircea_popescu;a big amount of attention right over here. 416539;1386726073;benkay;methinks the lady etc etc 416540;1386726079;kanzure;maybe our two attentions can merge together 416541;1386726097;nubbins`;what, again with the docking? 416542;1386726112;mircea_popescu;lol 416543;1386726118;nubbins`;BingoBoingo: sorry, didnt notice your last move 416544;1386726124;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: e6 416545;1386726133;mircea_popescu;btw, any of you gonna play rift ? i'm sort of considering making a guild 416546;1386726150;nubbins`;BingoBoingo: 5. e3 416547;1386726173;BingoBoingo;c5 416548;1386726195;nubbins`;6. Qa4 416549;1386726196;nubbins`;+ 416550;1386726234;benkay;mircea when future lot sizes change we can expect the collateral required for puts to change at the same time riiiiight? 416551;1386726238;BingoBoingo;Nc6 416552;1386726248;benkay;(lot sizes for options...) 416553;1386726287;mircea_popescu;roughly. 416554;1386726288;mircea_popescu;why ? 416555;1386726301;benkay;writing a thing 416556;1386726306;nubbins`;7. Nf3 416557;1386726355;BingoBoingo;c4 416558;1386726377;nubbins`;8. b4 416559;1386726416;benkay;oh and also mircea_popescu there's some secret padding in the call collateral requirements not mentioned in the faq, correct? 416560;1386726419;BingoBoingo;a6 416561;1386726493;nubbins`;9. Ne5 416562;1386726502;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 9 @ 0.02099999 = 0.189 BTC [+] {2} 416563;1386726529;asciilifeform;in other news: latest word is that NSA spies on... WoW. 416564;1386726552;nubbins`;next thing we'll find out they were the flying dicks in SL 416565;1386726555;asciilifeform;http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/12/10/us/politics/games-docs.html?_r=0 416566;1386726577;benkay;nubbins`: there was something making the rounds about spies spying on spies in SL. 416567;1386726582;BingoBoingo;Bxe5 416568;1386726586;asciilifeform;gotta be fictional, to discredit other leaks 416569;1386726626;asciilifeform;authored by literature team at Meta-NSA. 416570;1386726631;BingoBoingo;Wait nubbins` I got your Knight mixed 416571;1386726643;nubbins`;i've got your.. yeah 416572;1386726665;nubbins`;your bishop is on f5 416573;1386726678;mircea_popescu;benkay put 416574;1386726685;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 13 @ 0.29088613 = 3.7815 BTC [-] {7} 416575;1386726692;benkay;>.< 416576;1386726700;benkay;that's what i meant. 416577;1386726717;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: Bf7 416578;1386726809;nubbins`;10. b5 416579;1386726834;asciilifeform;This is pure gold: "Monitoring strategy games like Counterstrike can be an effective way to track individual skill levels in firearms, tactical operations, group cohesion, leadership, etc." 416580;1386726846;asciilifeform;(p. 14) 416581;1386726867;nubbins`;gov't employees spying on 14yo kids calling each other fags and lobbing grenades 416582;1386726875;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: a6xb5 416583;1386726895;jborkl;Counterstrike, how fucking out of date is that doc 416584;1386726929;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.30943748 = 2.4755 BTC [+] {5} 416585;1386726934;nubbins`;11. Qxb5! 416586;1386726951;jborkl;You suck camper, I am going to report you to them in and get you banned faggot 416587;1386726957;nubbins`;^ 416588;1386726959;jborkl;Admin 416589;1386726964;nubbins`;son, uncle sam wants to have a word 416590;1386726987;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: 0-0 416591;1386726993;dub;jesus 416592;1386726999;dub;no wonder they are after me 416593;1386726999;jborkl;Pwned.nl ftw for the NSA 416594;1386727008;dub;I am the god of FPS 416595;1386727062;nubbins`;12. h3 416596;1386727065;dub;you know this is all about some NSA kids justifying getting paid to play games 416597;1386727082;benkay;i find that the more plausible story. 416598;1386727098;benkay;their superiors look at the proposal and say "sure. nice distraction." 416599;1386727121;benkay;then some new poor soul gets hired on to the team, can't figure out why no 'work' is happening and starts writing reports. 416600;1386727121;asciilifeform;p. 35. geocaching. 416601;1386727122;asciilifeform;wait till they learn about bitcoin... 416602;1386727130;benkay;who's the NSA stooge in -assets? 416603;1386727130;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: NxNe5 416604;1386727144;BingoBoingo;benkay: Best to assume we all are 416605;1386727156;benkay;MPEx: honeypot. 416606;1386727164;jborkl;Kako 416607;1386727166;asciilifeform;'The Man Who Was Thursday' ! 416608;1386727236;nubbins`;BingoBoingo: 13. Be2 416609;1386727295;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 8 @ 0.02299999 = 0.184 BTC [+] 416610;1386727308;jborkl;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=366357.0 416611;1386727310;ozbot;Help Develop a New Pool 0.1% Fee Open Source Merged Mining 416612;1386727326;jborkl;Really one of you guys needs to help. He is broke 416613;1386727339;jborkl;:/ 416614;1386727345;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: Nd3+ 416615;1386727385;jborkl;Heh, maybe he could apply to seedcoin 416616;1386727417;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 8 @ 0.02299999 = 0.184 BTC [+] 416617;1386727463;nubbins`;nice one 416618;1386727483;nubbins`;14. Bxd3 416619;1386727519;asciilifeform;seedcoin? is that the last little bit you needed to plant next year's btc crop, that the Reds confiscate when they dekulakize you? 416620;1386727529;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: BxBd3 416621;1386727564;jborkl;I guess the hippies and Amish would like seedcoin, renewable and all 416622;1386727609;asciilifeform;afaik there are crackpot 'proof of stake' altchains where seedcoin actually exists 416623;1386727614;asciilifeform;(you need some to mine any) 416624;1386727705;nubbins`;15. Bb2 416625;1386727775;BingoBoingo;Ne4 416626;1386727844;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 7 @ 0.02415426 = 0.1691 BTC [+] {4} 416627;1386727920;nubbins`;16. Rd1 416628;1386727946;BingoBoingo;Bh4+ 416629;1386727963;mircea_popescu;so who's winning ? 416630;1386727987;dub;asciilifeform: in the case of the famous one, its pow bootstrapped 416631;1386727995;dub;(peercoin) 416632;1386727998;nubbins`;BingoBoingo: h's pawn is on 3 416633;1386727998;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Indeterminate at this time nubbins` is down a bishop though 416634;1386728029;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: I know. I'm not taking the pawn but imposing check 416635;1386728032;dub;nubbins` is down with bishops? 416636;1386728042;nubbins`;ha! sorry 416637;1386728078;BingoBoingo;It's cool 416638;1386728136;nubbins`;actually, that's the game right there 416639;1386728138;nubbins`;congrats 416640;1386728166;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: You can still move g3, but then Bxge++ 416641;1386728172;nubbins`;17. g3, Bxg3++ 416642;1386728174;nubbins`;nod 416643;1386728176;nubbins`;gg 416644;1386728179;BingoBoingo;gg 416645;1386728188;nubbins`;shouldnt have moved that rook 416646;1386728190;nubbins`;stupid move 416647;1386728197;nubbins`;even without the bishop moving 416648;1386728213;BingoBoingo;Yeah. That would have left you king some room. 416649;1386728252;nubbins`;honestly i was expecting Rxa2 416650;1386728265;nubbins`;soon as i hit enter, i said whoops 416651;1386728271;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2000 @ 0.00292183 = 5.8437 BTC [-] {3} 416652;1386728317;BingoBoingo;Nah, nubbins if I would have moved that rook it would have been to challenge the queen by going to a5 416653;1386728333;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 810 @ 0.00291 = 2.3571 BTC [-] 416654;1386728435;nubbins`;almost moved that queen to b7 416655;1386728451;nubbins`;more for the escalation than anything ;( 416656;1386728477;nubbins`;42 minutes, not bad 416657;1386728536;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: I was expecting you to do that eventually. Planned to ignore it unless you could get other pieces to back it up though. If you could have got an unobstructed rook on b1 to back Qxb7 that would have been concerning 416658;1386728565;BingoBoingo;Final position is here: http://imgur.com/UFC5wGk if anyone is inerested. 416659;1386728583;nubbins`;that's upside down ;) 416660;1386728592;nubbins`;j/k 416661;1386728637;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6969 @ 0.00087059 = 6.0671 BTC [+] {2} 416662;1386728698;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1531 @ 0.00087087 = 1.3333 BTC [+] 416663;1386728748;nubbins`;https://www.dropbox.com/s/hfu11uljk3kjbcs/chess.svg 416664;1386728756;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: One benefit of playing on IRC is you can sit or stand facing any side of the board you want 416665;1386728761;nubbins`;^ if anyone wants an inkscape chessboard 416666;1386728770;nubbins`;yeah, true 416667;1386728778;Kleeck_;and a keylogger ^^ 416668;1386728783;nubbins`;i get to undo and redo ;D 416669;1386728805;nubbins`;easier than sorting thru the history 416670;1386729308;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.31022498 = 3.1022 BTC [+] {3} 416671;1386729674;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [7C] 100 @ 0.0077 = 0.77 BTC 416672;1386729676;kakobrekla;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAPSNjXSSRQ 416673;1386729676;ozbot;Get The Money--Goran Bregovic- feat. Iggy Pop. - YouTube 416674;1386729918;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 19 @ 0.09665631 = 1.8365 BTC [-] {8} 416675;1386730040;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 51 @ 0.02050019 = 1.0455 BTC [-] {2} 416676;1386730041;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.311 = 3.11 BTC [+] 416677;1386730101;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.155 = 0.465 BTC [+] 416678;1386730162;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.15589999 = 0.3118 BTC [+] 416679;1386730171;thestringpuller;wow bitcoin store is unusable 416680;1386730276;nubbins`;https://www.dropbox.com/s/q2pqx5192dffuya/chess2.svg even 416681;1386730351;thestringpuller;i've been hearing that phrase a lot 416682;1386730356;thestringpuller;"Get the money" 416683;1386730492;thestringpuller;;;bc,stats 416684;1386730495;gribble;Current Blocks: 274258 | Current Difficulty: 9.08350862437022E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 276191 | Next Difficulty In: 1933 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 14 hours, 54 minutes, and 3 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 1017248703.44 | Estimated Percent Change: 11.98852 416685;1386730518;thestringpuller;Gangsta 416686;1386730539;thestringpuller;nubbins`: you still there? 416687;1386730711;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.024 = 0.12 BTC [+] 416688;1386730955;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.024 = 0.12 BTC [+] 416689;1386731138;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2881 @ 0.00289298 = 8.3347 BTC [-] {7} 416690;1386731174;mod6;;;bc,stats 416691;1386731176;gribble;Current Blocks: 274260 | Current Difficulty: 9.08350862437022E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 276191 | Next Difficulty In: 1931 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 14 hours, 38 minutes, and 14 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 999416555.98 | Estimated Percent Change: 10.02539 416692;1386731275;mike_c;2 slow blocks.. not what we need. 416693;1386731336;mike_c;when is that cellphone-miner company launching? hopefully in the next 10 days. 416694;1386731351;Sabroshi;you bet on Yes? 416695;1386731376;mike_c;yeah, couple weeks ago. don't hate me bingoboingo. 416696;1386731417;nubbins`;hi 416697;1386731687;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 7 @ 0.02020002 = 0.1414 BTC [-] {2} 416698;1386732297;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.29201001 BTC [-] 416699;1386732602;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14117 @ 0.00086348 = 12.1897 BTC [-] 416700;1386732665;asciilifeform;cellphone miner? i can only conclude that 'silk road' is back, and btc people are partaking of strong drug. 416701;1386733250;mike_c;cellphone miner: 416702;1386733251;mike_c;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=358242.msg3842580#msg3842580 416703;1386733253;ozbot;Next generation 14nm mining grid 416704;1386733761;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 28 @ 0.02465101 = 0.6902 BTC [+] {2} 416705;1386734006;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 8 @ 0.02199999 = 0.176 BTC [-] 416706;1386734066;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 8 @ 0.02199999 = 0.176 BTC [-] 416707;1386734188;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 8 @ 0.02199999 = 0.176 BTC [-] 416708;1386734554;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 9 @ 0.02208887 = 0.1988 BTC [+] {2} 416709;1386735262;mircea_popescu;;;bcstata 416710;1386735264;gribble;Error: "bcstata" is not a valid command. 416711;1386735264;mircea_popescu;;;bcstats 416712;1386735267;gribble;Current Blocks: 274269 | Current Difficulty: 9.08350862437022E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 276191 | Next Difficulty In: 1922 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 20 hours, 36 minutes, and 36 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 1018349132.03 | Estimated Percent Change: 12.10967 416713;1386735314;mircea_popescu;;;calc 9.08350 * 1.1 416714;1386735315;gribble;9.99185 416715;1386735725;thestringpuller;.d 416716;1386735732;thestringpuller;oh yea ozbot has me on ignore 416717;1386735751;Duffer1;.d 416718;1386735751;ozbot;908350862.43702 | Next Diff in 1920 blocks | Estimated Change: 13.4573% in 11d 12h 48m 4s 416719;1386736018;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.30899999 = 0.618 BTC [+] {2} 416720;1386736079;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.309 BTC [+] 416721;1386736628;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1750 @ 0.00086547 = 1.5146 BTC [+] 416722;1386737726;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18529 @ 0.00086695 = 16.0637 BTC [+] 416723;1386738031;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00086695 = 3.7279 BTC [+] 416724;1386738641;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.05 = 1 BTC 416725;1386738642;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.156 BTC [+] 416726;1386738763;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.15799999 BTC [+] 416727;1386739251;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 40 @ 0.05 = 2 BTC 416728;1386739312;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11550 @ 0.00086695 = 10.0133 BTC [+] 416729;1386741447;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.05 = 0.25 BTC 416730;1386741448;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10987 @ 0.00086758 = 9.5321 BTC [+] {2} 416731;1386742952;BingoBoingo;If anyone wants to know how Open Source chess engines stack up against each other in the event that Play Chess for BTC becomes a thing so far it seems Stockfish>fruit>Pychess>Phlanx 416732;1386743181;BingoBoingo;Depending on how affluent suckers are it may be worth setting up a Windows machine to run Rybka though. 416733;1386743628;BingoBoingo;I'm finding some exceptions though. Fruit tends to annihilate Stockfish under strict (under 5 minute time constraints) while black. I also imagine the results might differ if I actually allowed any of these engines access to an opening book. 416734;1386743696;KRS|Gotyawallet;o/ 416735;1386743737;BingoBoingo;KRS|Gotyawallet: I'm just testing and releasing some early findings in case someone would decide to advance such a broken idea 416736;1386743755;KRS|Gotyawallet;ok 416737;1386743765;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00086783 = 0.8678 BTC [+] 416738;1386743767;KRS|Gotyawallet;whatcha got 416739;1386743819;BingoBoingo;KRS|Gotyawallet: Just engines running natively in Linux through PyChess fighting each other. 416740;1386743828;KRS|Gotyawallet;hmmm 416741;1386743838;KRS|Gotyawallet;pretty interesting 416742;1386743910;BingoBoingo;KRS|Gotyawallet: Without any opening books feeding them they actually seem to be playing rather crippled in the early going. 416743;1386743925;KRS|Gotyawallet;i like the idea of modifying open source software to be driven by btc 416744;1386743955;KRS|Gotyawallet;im a sysadmin..so i tend to think business apps- check it 416745;1386743989;KRS|Gotyawallet;you know that thing jurov set up - the open terminal i forgot the url 416746;1386744002;KRS|Gotyawallet;you click start and get a linux shell 416747;1386744015;KRS|Gotyawallet;dig.. 416748;1386744041;KRS|Gotyawallet;same thing-but "Insert 0.01 for SugarCRM instance" 416749;1386744056;KRS|Gotyawallet;then the customer can go in and fiddle with SugarCRM 416750;1386744083;KRS|Gotyawallet;I've always hated having to set up a vm or download a virtual appliance and set it up on my own 416751;1386744092;KRS|Gotyawallet;I just want to use it damnit. 416752;1386744097;KRS|Gotyawallet;dig? 416753;1386744110;KRS|Gotyawallet;There are 1000's of apps that take time to set up to be able to use them.. 416754;1386744151;BingoBoingo;Yeah, the catch is though that a lot of those demanding set up steps exist for reasons. 416755;1386744153;KRS|Gotyawallet;Usually you have to download a virtual appliance or if the vendor/project has a demo its restricted 416756;1386744176;KRS|Gotyawallet;im thinking this eliminates those reasons..concerns? 416757;1386744199;KRS|Gotyawallet;btw get ready to lose 25% or so of your btc net wealth 416758;1386744214;BingoBoingo;Eh, why would I lose that? 416759;1386744216;KRS|Gotyawallet;market aint so hot lately 416760;1386744248;KRS|Gotyawallet;im thinking if market price doesnt stabilize at 900's again it'll go 700's if it doesnt stop there i think down further 416761;1386744258;KRS|Gotyawallet;been real unstable lately 416762;1386744292;BingoBoingo;KRS|Gotyawallet: How much were you watching BTC this spring in the period immediately after it broke $80 416763;1386744366;kanzure;i thought sugarcrm was ran by a company that sells sugarcrm instances 416764;1386744380;kanzure;are you just banking on "i can integrate btc faster than whoever is running sugarcrm's parent company at the moment can" 416765;1386744394;kanzure;like, the obvious downside here is that you would have to actually support sugarcrm instances..... yeah. 416766;1386744634;BingoBoingo;I'm really not worried about how thin BTC orderbooks are contributing to this present volatility because generally the asks side (aka people with BTC) tends to be better at bluffing than the bids are. 416767;1386744741;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.05 = 0.5 BTC 416768;1386745595;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15671 @ 0.00086663 = 13.581 BTC [-] 416769;1386745656;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6577 @ 0.00086547 = 5.6922 BTC [-] 416770;1386747364;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 875 @ 0.00086547 = 0.7573 BTC [-] 416771;1386747975;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8310 @ 0.00086666 = 7.2019 BTC [+] {2} 416772;1386748064;KRS|Gotyawallet;wow thats a great analysis bingoboingo 416773;1386748096;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.158 BTC [+] 416774;1386748103;KRS|Gotyawallet;i'm still learning trading i've been working at it for a year 416775;1386748126;BingoBoingo;KRS|Gotyawallet: That guess comes from nothing sophisticated. 416776;1386748135;BingoBoingo;It may be completely wrong 416777;1386748157;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.05 = 0.75 BTC 416778;1386748542;KRS|Gotyawallet;oh hah 416779;1386748547;KRS|Gotyawallet;makes sense 416780;1386748767;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 5 @ 0.13900001 = 0.695 BTC [-] {4} 416781;1386748829;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2550 @ 0.00010292 = 0.2624 BTC [+] {2} 416782;1386749072;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.00297001 = 0.1188 BTC [-] 416783;1386749133;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3300 @ 0.000103 = 0.3399 BTC [+] 416784;1386749134;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.09133333 = 0.274 BTC [-] {3} 416785;1386749194;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.05 = 0.25 BTC 416786;1386749696;KRS|Gotyawallet;kakkobrekla.. 416787;1386749704;KRS|Gotyawallet;This doesn't seem like good news. 416788;1386749717;KRS|Gotyawallet;"If Bitcoin was a country — Bitcoinistan? — it would be like Somalia." 416789;1386749727;KRS|Gotyawallet;http://finance.yahoo.com/news/bitcoin-proves-libertarians-idea-paradise-022800742.html 416790;1386749728;ozbot;Bitcoin Proves The Libertarian Idea Of Paradise Would Be Hell On Earth - Yahoo Finance 416791;1386749743;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 700 @ 0.00296178 = 2.0732 BTC [-] {7} 416792;1386750107;KRS|Gotyawallet;BITBET! http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/12/10/this-finance-expert-thinks-bitcoin-will-fall-99-percent-by-june/ 416793;1386750841;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.319 BTC [+] 416794;1386751182;javanomad;;;seen unbalanced 416795;1386751183;gribble;unbalanced was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 days, 5 hours, 58 minutes, and 20 seconds ago: (wish I'd hit enter a half-second sooner) 416796;1386752183;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13450 @ 0.00086621 = 11.6505 BTC [-] {3} 416797;1386753403;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.05 = 1 BTC 416798;1386755111;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58400 @ 0.00086801 = 50.6918 BTC [+] {6} 416799;1386755904;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25600 @ 0.00086464 = 22.1348 BTC [-] {2} 416800;1386756758;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.15000001 BTC [-] 416801;1386756759;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 390 @ 0.00049999 = 0.195 BTC [-] {2} 416802;1386756941;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 31 @ 0.14303225 = 4.434 BTC [-] {11} 416803;1386757002;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.1393 = 1.393 BTC [-] {3} 416804;1386757063;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 43 @ 0.13289766 = 5.7146 BTC [-] {6} 416805;1386757307;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10325 @ 0.00008114 = 0.8378 BTC [-] {11} 416806;1386757368;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24838 @ 0.0008706 = 21.624 BTC [+] {3} 416807;1386757368;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 32089 @ 0.0000703 = 2.2559 BTC [-] {9} 416808;1386757490;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 16 @ 0.12775 = 2.044 BTC [-] {2} 416809;1386757491;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 2845 @ 0.00046332 = 1.3181 BTC [-] {8} 416810;1386757734;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00010299 = 0.103 BTC [+] 416811;1386758527;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13650 @ 0.00087309 = 11.9177 BTC [+] {2} 416812;1386758771;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.15999997 BTC [+] 416813;1386760601;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2070 @ 0.00087347 = 1.8081 BTC [+] 416814;1386761760;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11848 @ 0.0008714 = 10.3243 BTC [-] {2} 416815;1386763346;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25250 @ 0.00087493 = 22.092 BTC [+] {3} 416816;1386763468;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00296 = 0.296 BTC [-] {3} 416817;1386764200;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00087244 = 8.8989 BTC [-] 416818;1386764627;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.00087567 = 11.6464 BTC [+] {2} 416819;1386764749;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.129 = 0.258 BTC [+] {2} 416820;1386765237;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SMG] 1773 @ 0.0001008 = 0.1787 BTC [-] {3} 416821;1386765298;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SMG] 3227 @ 0.00010025 = 0.3235 BTC [-] {4} 416822;1386765359;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.13500001 BTC [-] 416823;1386765725;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 57 @ 0.00296 = 0.1687 BTC [-] 416824;1386765786;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.30300001 BTC [-] 416825;1386765787;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12715 @ 0.00087152 = 11.0814 BTC [-] {2} 416826;1386765847;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.303 BTC [-] 416827;1386766335;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.31899999 BTC [+] 416828;1386766396;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.319 BTC [+] 416829;1386766579;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13450 @ 0.00087517 = 11.771 BTC [+] 416830;1386767006;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 156 @ 0.00295987 = 0.4617 BTC [-] {2} 416831;1386767067;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 344 @ 0.00292286 = 1.0055 BTC [-] {8} 416832;1386767311;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00295 = 0.1475 BTC [+] {4} 416833;1386767555;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4110 @ 0.00087517 = 3.5969 BTC [+] 416834;1386768531;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.02349993 = 0.1175 BTC [+] {2} 416835;1386768592;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5000 @ 0.00007009 = 0.3505 BTC [-] {5} 416836;1386768653;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5917 @ 0.00087624 = 5.1847 BTC [+] {2} 416837;1386768775;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22900 @ 0.00087656 = 20.0732 BTC [+] {2} 416838;1386769446;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.31787142 = 2.2251 BTC [-] {2} 416839;1386769507;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 15 @ 0.0235 = 0.3525 BTC [+] {2} 416840;1386769995;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19234 @ 0.00087297 = 16.7907 BTC [-] 416841;1386770117;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 240 @ 0.05 = 12 BTC 416842;1386770300;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14000 @ 0.00087477 = 12.2468 BTC [+] {2} 416843;1386771325;Sabroshi;;;estimate 416844;1386771326;gribble;Next difficulty estimate | 1039124171.64 based on data since last change | 894132728.373 based on data for last three days 416845;1386771467;mircea_popescu;oy Sabroshi cabron! como estas! 416846;1386771520;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.00290003 = 2.9 BTC [-] {3} 416847;1386771532;Sabroshi;Ola! Ola! 416848;1386771556;Sabroshi;;;nethash 416849;1386771557;gribble;6400549.04237 416850;1386771569;Sabroshi;still broken, nanotube knows tho 416851;1386771703;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.137 BTC [+] 416852;1386771886;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13900 @ 0.0008742 = 12.1514 BTC [-] 416853;1386773174;mircea_popescu;When Weinstein was charged with handling the US release of Princess Mononoke, he received a samurai sword in the mail with an attached note that read, "No cuts." 416854;1386773472;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.05 = 0.5 BTC 416855;1386773655;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4429 @ 0.00087092 = 3.8573 BTC [-] {2} 416856;1386773716;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 332 @ 0.00287856 = 0.9557 BTC [-] {13} 416857;1386774296;jurov;kakobrekla: http://www.kompot.sk/eshop/tricka/ludom-jebe-girl/ understand? want one? 416858;1386774448;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.30200005 BTC [-] 416859;1386774509;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.30200001 = 1.51 BTC [-] {3} 416860;1386774875;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 571 @ 0.00289163 = 1.6511 BTC [-] {3} 416861;1386774936;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17204 @ 0.00087208 = 15.0033 BTC [+] 416862;1386775087;mircea_popescu;https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=n7hiuXjXJEw << ipo that crow! 416863;1386775159;mircea_popescu;jurov cunny crew would have been a better name for a radical sewing circle. 416864;1386775216;jurov;oh, they prefer local spelling 416865;1386775317;mircea_popescu;well then why "crew" 416866;1386775341;mircea_popescu;kundy krai 416867;1386775367;jurov;http://www.kompot.sk/eshop/tricka/naive-boy/ 416868;1386775392;KRS|Gotyawallet;you guys know anything about cex.io cloudhashing shares? i cant see how its profitable 416869;1386775401;KRS|Gotyawallet;i must be doing something wrong 416870;1386775411;mircea_popescu;don't know anything that'd indicate it's profitable. 416871;1386775424;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 13 @ 0.02249999 = 0.2925 BTC [-] 416872;1386775428;jurov;ppl know what "kundy" and "crew" is. i had to look "cunny" up 416873;1386775430;KRS|Gotyawallet;yea i ran the numbers it just doesnt make sense 416874;1386775456;mircea_popescu;jurov that's a point. 416875;1386775480;mircea_popescu;i think kundy is exactly it tho, neh ? cutest way to say girlbit. 416876;1386775513;jurov;not sure if cutest... that would be "pička" 416877;1386775529;jurov;and it's plural, singular is kunda 416878;1386775570;mircea_popescu;romanian uses pizda but doesn't have a picka ;/ 416879;1386775774;pankkake;KRS|Gotyawallet: they probably get their success from the referal program 416880;1386775792;pankkake;if you want any chance of profit, you have to spam 416881;1386775834;mircea_popescu;so it's a... mlm thing ? 416882;1386775871;pankkake;I think there's only one level, but it certainly smells like it 416883;1386775916;mircea_popescu;slm 416884;1386776171;KRS|Gotyawallet;pankkake do they think people are stupid 416885;1386776206;KRS|Gotyawallet;facepalm 416886;1386776211;pankkake;isn't it the first assumption when you create a btc investment? 416887;1386776266;pankkake;and yet I'm pretty sure they were cheaper than many that were around when they started 416888;1386776283;pankkake;kinda like TAT.VM 416889;1386776318;pankkake;at least it limits the scale of the overpricing… ? 416890;1386776339;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.30073334 = 1.8044 BTC [-] {3} 416891;1386776496;KRS|Gotyawallet;yea i guess the only ones that were able to make anything of it are those who invested then reinvested their earnings a few times..back when btc was $200 there might have been a decent roi 416892;1386776552;KRS|Gotyawallet;i was looking at them back then but it looked so scammy. 416893;1386776590;KRS|Gotyawallet;oh wow gox went down hard like the old days 416894;1386776617;KRS|Gotyawallet;i miss those days..cheap coin 416895;1386776895;pankkake;She not only has delicious tits 416896;1386776898;pankkake;she has infamous wits 416897;1386776901;pankkake; 416898;1386776904;pankkake;Her beautiful nose 416899;1386776907;pankkake;can't rival her insightful prose 416900;1386777042;mircea_popescu;http://your-daily-girl.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Larissa-Riquelme-11.jpg 416901;1386777050;mircea_popescu;and she'd also look much better with a curly mustache 416902;1386777073;pankkake;is that supposed to be 3D? 416903;1386777131;mircea_popescu;i think they just don't have nude beaches in paraguay 416904;1386777254;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.05 = 0.75 BTC 416905;1386777492;KRS|Gotyawallet;btw if mpex sells cex shares, i meant their mining offering directly from them 1ghash .07 btc.. i wasn't talking about securities 416906;1386777527;KRS|Gotyawallet;im looking to diversify a bit and pick up another investment 416907;1386777681;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 54201 @ 0.00010738 = 5.8201 BTC [+] {13} 416908;1386777925;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 18 @ 0.17327776 = 3.119 BTC [+] {10} 416909;1386777926;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.13999999 BTC [+] 416910;1386778679;nubbins`;hi 416911;1386778845;Kleeck;http://guardianlv.com/2013/12/icelanders-overthrow-government-and-rewrite-constitution-after-banking-fraud-no-word-from-us-media/ 416912;1386778850;ozbot;Icelanders Overthrow Government and Rewrite Constitution After Banking Fraud-No Word From US Media 416913;1386778970;nubbins`;Kleeck: that's months old 416914;1386778985;nubbins`;maybe even last year 416915;1386778988;Kleeck;Added by Rebecca Savastio on December 2, 2013. 416916;1386779008;Kleeck;I'm in the US, so this is the first I've heard of it. :D 416917;1386779014;nubbins`;yeah, she's writing about an event that happened last year :D 416918;1386779023;nubbins`;either way, interesting story 416919;1386779025;Kleeck;Yup. 416920;1386779027;Kleeck;Very. 416921;1386779039;nubbins`;An “iReport” on CNN, written by a private citizen in May 2012, has questioned the reasons why this revolution has not been widely covered in the U.S. 416922;1386779041;Kleeck;In the US we would be labeled as terrorists. 416923;1386779059;Kleeck;Yes. The revolution was post 2008 economic collapse. 416924;1386779450;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11925 @ 0.00087305 = 10.4111 BTC [+] {2} 416925;1386779457;Rulother;keep up Kleeck 416926;1386779457;Rulother;Thats some old news 416927;1386779493;Kleeck;I understand that the event is old. The article is about more than just the overthrow. 416928;1386779596;nubbins`;;;echo SO OLD LELELEL WHAT ARE YOU DOING :D 416929;1386779596;gribble;SO OLD LELELEL WHAT ARE YOU DOING :D 416930;1386779917;pankkake;older than the internet! 416931;1386780121;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15250 @ 0.00087598 = 13.3587 BTC [+] {3} 416932;1386780243;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MG] 2994 @ 0.000115 = 0.3443 BTC [-] 416933;1386780638;manky;;;ticker 416934;1386780638;gribble;Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later. 416935;1386780975;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4622 @ 0.00088003 = 4.0675 BTC [+] 416936;1386781097;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1166 @ 0.00011 = 0.1283 BTC [-] {2} 416937;1386781233;deadweasel;;;ticker 416938;1386781234;gribble;Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later. 416939;1386781235;deadweasel;dammit gribs, lazy bot 416940;1386781280;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.14 = 0.7 BTC [+] 416941;1386781463;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00087549 = 1.4883 BTC [-] 416942;1386781485;deadweasel;;;ticker 416943;1386781485;gribble;Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later. 416944;1386782256;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.29249949 = 5.85 BTC [-] {5} 416945;1386782561;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.29209 = 2.3367 BTC [-] {2} 416946;1386782866;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.141 BTC [+] 416947;1386782984;Kleeck;http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/12/10/this-finance-expert-thinks-bitcoin-will-fall-99-percent-by-june/ 416948;1386782985;ozbot;This finance expert thinks Bitcoin will fall 99 percent by June 416949;1386783017;ThickAsThieves;lucky if it falls to 99% 416950;1386783031;Duffer1;even i could be able to afford to buy back in if that happens, that would be amazing 416951;1386783031;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 416952;1386783045;Duffer1;damn you assbot 416953;1386783089;pankkake;he probably hasn't the balls to bet on that though 416954;1386783110;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00293604 = 0.5872 BTC [+] {5} 416955;1386783111;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 61 @ 0.02434538 = 1.4851 BTC [+] {5} 416956;1386783171;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.143 = 0.715 BTC [+] {3} 416957;1386783189;deadweasel;make a bitbet, send to author 416958;1386783199;ThickAsThieves;that article never bothers to make a point 416959;1386783342;ThickAsThieves;TLDR: Bitcoin will die cuz it has the most support of any crypto and cuz it's volatile and crashed this week. Btw, where can I buy bitcoins again? 416960;1386783732;mircea_popescu;"bitcoin will die because it upsets the world i'm familiar with" 416961;1386783765;mircea_popescu;"the government will prevent bitcoin from upsetting the world i'm familiar with" 416962;1386783804;mircea_popescu;"people who better adapt to things that upset the world i'm familiar with never get better pay, more attention and a nicer life than me" 416963;1386783820;mircea_popescu;basically bitcoin is the anti-religion : it exposes the implicit bible of everyone else. 416964;1386784071;Kleeck;Courtesy if deizel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r00IjBdp-ZA 416965;1386784087;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19650 @ 0.00087549 = 17.2034 BTC [-] 416966;1386784452;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.05 = 0.3 BTC 416967;1386784513;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.292061 = 0.5841 BTC [-] 416968;1386785066;Kleeck;http://imgur.com/R1v2xB5 416969;1386785066;ozbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 416970;1386785428;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8250 @ 0.00087758 = 7.24 BTC [+] 416971;1386785751;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoin-will-die/ 416972;1386785752;ozbot;Bitcoin will die pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 416973;1386785977;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16425 @ 0.00087445 = 14.3628 BTC [-] {3} 416974;1386786038;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8075 @ 0.00087356 = 7.054 BTC [-] 416975;1386786149;deadweasel;$avg 416976;1386786151;mpexbot;deadweasel: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. 416977;1386786343;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4850 @ 0.0008759 = 4.2481 BTC [+] 416978;1386786393;mircea_popescu;so romanian health ministry would not spring for a hospital in this small northern town. consequently, they changed the town name plaques on all the roads 416979;1386786404;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.29206066 = 0.8762 BTC [-] {2} 416980;1386786408;mircea_popescu;welcome to coas! drive carefully : we have six graveyards and not a single hospital 416981;1386786416;mircea_popescu;http://lauraspataru.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/coas_17906500.jpg 416982;1386786464;nubbins`;hahahaha 416983;1386786503;sbp;when we have to update signs in the UK, the councils complain that they cost too many hundreds of thousands of pounds to change. for the cost of changing those signs, maybe Coaș could have afforded a new hospital... 416984;1386786553;mircea_popescu;i doubt the whole story cost 5k 416985;1386786583;sbp;these days you can 3d print a hospital for 3k 416986;1386786590;assbot;Last 8 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1500616/plain/) 416987;1386786590;mircea_popescu;!b 8 416988;1386786592;mircea_popescu;bwahaha 416989;1386786647;sbp;how's Cardano coming along, mircea_popescu? looking forward to it 416990;1386786648;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 6 @ 0.05166332 = 0.31 BTC [+] {3} 416991;1386786672;sbp;I was reading asciilifeform's notes about RNG on Trilema earlier 416992;1386786716;mircea_popescu;well... work, you know ? 416993;1386786863;sbp;yeah 416994;1386786871;sbp;give it a cognitive nudge of interest from me though 416995;1386786892;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 56 @ 0.00284155 = 0.1591 BTC [-] {6} 416996;1386786895;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform is actually waking up at night because of the thing. 416997;1386786913;sbp;heh! awesome. well, awesome inasmuch as it doesn't distract him from Loper... :-) 416998;1386786916;mircea_popescu;i have my doubts whether he's eating properly. 416999;1386786956;sbp;well hopefully he doesn't end up like Gödel 417000;1386786964;deadweasel;pay a local homeless man to keep an eye on him. 417001;1386786965;mircea_popescu;wasn't godel the guy with two wives ? 417002;1386786988;sbp;not as far as I remember. logician who died of starvation because he believed he was being poisoned. (not very logical) 417003;1386787014;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 84 @ 0.00255201 = 0.2144 BTC [-] 417004;1386787112;mircea_popescu;you're right, schroedinger had a girl with two women. 417005;1386787157;deadweasel;well, he kept one of them in a box, so it's debatable. 417006;1386787208;mircea_popescu;no, he kept milton (his cat) in the box 417007;1386787247;sbp;haha, Schrödinger seriously had a cat named Milton? great 417008;1386787264;sbp;you know, Heisenberg had twins. well, his wife did 417009;1386787278;sbp;after she gave birth, Pauli congratulated Heisenberg on pair production 417010;1386787283;mircea_popescu;lol 417011;1386787314;sbp;should have asked him which was his favourite. he never could decide... 417012;1386787385;mircea_popescu;http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/lehigh-county/index.ssf/2013/08/women_report_man_was_openly_ma.html 417013;1386787386;ozbot;Women report man openly performing sex act; he claims it was jock itch, cops say | lehighvall 417014;1386787413;mircea_popescu;don't be a jock, the police are cracking down. 417015;1386787462;deadweasel;lol, my junk was itchy, now I'm in jail. 417016;1386787488;mircea_popescu;i wasn't gonna scratch my cock 417017;1386787493;mircea_popescu;but then i got high... then i got high... 417018;1386787746;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.1445 BTC [+] 417019;1386787800;Kleeck;Courtesy of Crunchyarms: http://imgur.com/lmHvt4R 417020;1386787807;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 50 @ 0.00205 = 0.1025 BTC [-] 417021;1386787817;Kleeck;(Sidebar needs futher modification.) 417022;1386787830;deadweasel;the thc irritates my crabs, sir. 417023;1386787836;deadweasel;don't tase me bro? 417024;1386787895;mircea_popescu;Kleeck still, an envelope ? 417025;1386787986;sbp;http://www.sparecoins.io/ 417026;1386787990;sbp;keep a wallet in your browser 417027;1386787993;sbp;nothing can go wrong 417028;1386787994;sbp;nothing 417029;1386788001;Kleeck;Yeah. It took him 2 minutes. :) Still fits though, right. Mailing money? 417030;1386788016;Kleeck;Oh no. 417031;1386788017;Kleeck;http://imgur.com/UIScPVi 417032;1386788017;ozbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 417033;1386788019;Kleeck;Even more. 417034;1386788032;dexX7;hehe 417035;1386788038;Kleeck;Again, courtesy Crunchyarms. 417036;1386788043;mircea_popescu;hahaha 417037;1386788291;BingoBoingo;http://www.bnd.com/2013/12/11/2954203/toddler-helps-county-decide-order.html 417038;1386788292;ozbot;Toddler helps county decide order of candidates on primary ballot | Metro-east news | News Democrat 417039;1386788312;dexX7;lol goat makes news on reddit.. "someone on 4chan bought a lambo with 216 btc" 417040;1386788347;Kleeck;This is the dumbest video ever. 417041;1386788761;thestringpuller;;;bc,stats 417042;1386788764;gribble;Current Blocks: 274372 | Current Difficulty: 9.08350862437022E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 276191 | Next Difficulty In: 1819 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 14 hours, 3 minutes, and 49 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 1034198923.97 | Estimated Percent Change: 13.85457 417043;1386788788;nubbins`;i'm always pleasantly surprised by the price of things in btc 417044;1386788860;nubbins`;like, i just realized a 3d printer is < 2 btc 417045;1386788865;nubbins`;what madness! 417046;1386788998;KRS|Gotyawallet;wow 417047;1386789000;pankkake;sparecoins is aptly named 417048;1386789076;pankkake;;;estimate 417049;1386789077;gribble;Next difficulty estimate | 1036361795.11 based on data since last change | 894132728.373 based on data for last three days 417050;1386789085;pankkake;I want to believe that last 3 days thing 417051;1386789089;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.145 BTC [+] 417052;1386789109;sbp;nubbins`: start thinking of prices in mBTC. then you can say almost exactly the same thing in a year or so 417053;1386789157;mircea_popescu;haha well put sbp 417054;1386789268;sbp;somebody needs to work on a media friendly name for µBTC 417055;1386789300;sbp;we'll never need nBTC, unless they split the Satoshi 417056;1386789301;mircea_popescu;urmomtc 417057;1386789311;sbp;media friendly, not 4chan friendly 417058;1386789316;mircea_popescu;o o sorry my bad 417059;1386789318;FabianB;why not skip all the steps inbetween and go with satoshi 417060;1386789327;nubbins`;^ 417061;1386789330;pankkake;I've seen millibit 417062;1386789333;mircea_popescu;tbh, this mili and micro stuff is nonsense. 417063;1386789339;mircea_popescu;we will use the 1/10000 unit 417064;1386789350;mircea_popescu;and the two sub units the cent and the millionth 417065;1386789358;mircea_popescu;bitcoin is base 2 not base 3. 417066;1386789416;nubbins`;why don't we just cobble together a series of retarded nonsensical names for all the different decimal places and use that? 417067;1386789422;nubbins`;100 glaps to the quighorc, etc 417068;1386789442;sbp;please call one the quatloo... 417069;1386789445;mircea_popescu;lol. mmorpg square 417070;1386789455;mircea_popescu;sbp actually the 10k one makes sense as a quatloo 417071;1386789464;sbp;deal 417072;1386789499;sbp;quick, mine a block with "10k = quatloo!!!" in it 417073;1386789525;nubbins`;you'll need to reverse the terms or add another = ;) 417074;1386789544;sbp;blockchain notes should be called Sassamen 417075;1386789574;nubbins`;anyway, i'd want some way to make money off a 3d printer before i could justify buying one 417076;1386789579;FabianB;chinese (and i think japanese too) has words and characters for 10^4 and 10^8, none for 10^6 though, so much better for satoshi/btc 417077;1386789584;nubbins`;otherwise it's just another thing i don't have space for 417078;1386789619;nubbins`;myriads 417079;1386789624;mircea_popescu;FabianB say them ? 417080;1386789657;FabianB;in pinyin 10^4 is 'wan' and 10^8 'yi' 417081;1386789668;kanzure;sbp: hi 417082;1386789672;nubbins`;korean has 10^2, 3, 4, 8, 12, and every +4 thereafter 417083;1386789678;sbp;hey kanzure 417084;1386789687;nubbins`;up to almost 10^100, i think 417085;1386789692;dexX7; tbh, this mili and micro stuff is nonsense. << well, it's easy to remember.. 1 millibit is approx 1 $ 417086;1386789697;mike_c;nubbins`: sell snowflakes. http://www.shapeways.com/ 417087;1386789698;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.0008759 = 4.0291 BTC [+] 417088;1386789698;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 145 @ 0.00255201 = 0.37 BTC [-] {4} 417089;1386789707;mircea_popescu;dexX7 not for long 417090;1386789708;sbp;(万 and 亿) 417091;1386789728;dexX7;hehe 417092;1386789734;dexX7;i like when you are bullish (if you are) 417093;1386789748;nubbins`;10^4 units of korean won is about $10, so it's good they'd have a reasonably short name for it 417094;1386789764;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/mpex-one-year-of-dividends/#identifier_4_47551 << for teh reference 417095;1386789764;ozbot;MPEx : one year of dividends pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 417096;1386789814;nubbins`;i don't think you're using the term "base" the way other people use it 417097;1386789863;FabianB;an mpex account is 30亿satoshi :) 417098;1386789899;mircea_popescu;the count of zeroes is also a number. 417099;1386789926;nubbins`;30억 satoshi 417100;1386789956;mircea_popescu;30 亿s 417101;1386789959;mircea_popescu;i likethe sound of that 417102;1386790013;mircea_popescu;so 亿 is wan, which is the w part, the misshapen 1 or the insecure 2 ? 417103;1386790021;nubbins`;i agree on the half-length tho, i've been mentally digesting satoshi-denominated amounts this way to make sense of them for a while now 417104;1386790069;nubbins`;chinese characters make no sense to me 417105;1386790076;FabianB;mircea_popescu: no, 亿 is 'yi' (10^8) 417106;1386790086;mircea_popescu;a a 417107;1386790089;nubbins`;korean is very logical, each block is a syllable composed of up to 3 sounds 417108;1386790109;pankkake;http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/12/we-cannot-trust-intel-and-vias-chip-based-crypto-freebsd-developers-say/ 417109;1386790170;FabianB;wan is 10k and 万 417110;1386790196;sbp;nubbins`: I tried learning Hangul once. I had problems doing the aspirated p, for some reason. I kept practicing it, but whatever I did, I could not make that damn aspirated p sound. it was driving me insane, so I looked into it carefully 417111;1386790211;sbp;eventually I realised that *all* of my p's are aspirated! 417112;1386790220;mircea_popescu;lol 417113;1386790220;sbp;of course, then I had problems making a non-aspirated p... 417114;1386790220;nubbins`;heh. consonants are hard. 417115;1386790247;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 99 @ 0.00209 = 0.2069 BTC [+] 417116;1386790248;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.05 = 0.2 BTC 417117;1386790249;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.30493107 BTC [+] 417118;1386790290;nubbins`;how many times would i have to repeat my address to the taxi driver 10 times 417119;1386790299;nubbins`;"남양 아파트!!" 417120;1386790306;nubbins`;eventually he says 417121;1386790308;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.0008759 = 2.9781 BTC [+] 417122;1386790316;nubbins`;"ahhhhh! 남양 아파트!!" 417123;1386790329;nubbins`;completely indistinguishable from what i was saying 417124;1386790358;nubbins`;the double consonants are odd too 417125;1386790368;nubbins`;double d's and k's and stuff 417126;1386790406;sbp;yeah, faucalised 417127;1386790426;sbp;need to exercise your faucal cords, heh 417128;1386790979;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 201 @ 0.002103 = 0.4227 BTC [+] {3} 417129;1386791268;dexX7;http://www.coinion.com/2013/12/11/child-labor-bitcoin-mines-exposed/ 417130;1386791297;mircea_popescu;lol 417131;1386791335;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform check it out man, slave coin. it's happening. 417132;1386791410;pigeons;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=194655.0 417133;1386791412;ozbot;[ANN] CPcoin, the first Child Friendly Coin 417134;1386791508;dexX7;is "Child Pageant" a friendly phrase for child porn? 417135;1386791537;mircea_popescu;in the sense mineral water is a friendly phrase for vodka 417136;1386791551;dexX7;hehe 417137;1386791585;mircea_popescu;i think child pageants is what soccer moms do after the thrill of control soccer provides is no longer enough 417138;1386791772;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.05 = 0.4 BTC {3} 417139;1386791846;pankkake;child pageants attendance 50% soccer mons 50% paedos 417140;1386791946;dexX7;i think the altcoin winner of the month is dogecoin 417141;1386791977;dexX7;http://www.zazzle.com/official_dogecoin_t_shirt-235041754845982282 :D 417142;1386791979;ozbot;Official DOGECOIN T-Shirt from Zazzle.com 417143;1386791999;pankkake;lol 417144;1386792015;asciilifeform;i expected DOGECOIN to involve old Venice / slave trade... 417145;1386792040;pankkake;it's from a meme I never understood, but I loled anyway https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=361813.0 417146;1386792055;dexX7;haha yea, that's it 417147;1386792078;dexX7;most active altcoin thread for some days now 417148;1386792089;pankkake;fucking 46 pages lol 417149;1386792108;mircea_popescu;o wait. not just a logo, also a zazzle shirt ? 417150;1386792110;mircea_popescu;winner. 417151;1386792114;mircea_popescu;wow it doesn't ? what a letdown. 417152;1386792193;pankkake;I'll buy the physical coins 417153;1386792321;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 248 @ 0.00246126 = 0.6104 BTC [+] {2} 417154;1386792382;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 100 @ 0.00275 = 0.275 BTC [+] 417155;1386792383;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 35 @ 0.0029436 = 0.103 BTC [-] 417156;1386792504;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00088012 = 6.4249 BTC [+] {2} 417157;1386792631;sbp;mircea_popescu: Knuth cheats at email, by the way 417158;1386792653;sbp;he sent an hilarious email to a team that a friend of mine was involved in, in about 2005 or so 417159;1386792660;sbp;but he got his secretary to send it... :-) 417160;1386792684;sbp;here: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-validator/2005Sep/0052.html 417161;1386792699;mircea_popescu;kinda like me and the forum. 417162;1386792716;asciilifeform;or the pope's 'twitter' account, etc. 417163;1386792729;sbp;I love that they deleted all the old pope's tweets 417164;1386792731;mircea_popescu;who does the pope on twitter ? jesys ? 417165;1386792781;asciilifeform;richard stallman is also well known for having minions check his mail (and even load pages) 417166;1386792787;sbp;bet they didn't do that in the Vatican Library too. set fire to all of Benedict's papers 417167;1386792814;pigeons;well the idea of a secretary is that he/sh checks your mail so you can work 417168;1386792879;asciilifeform;division of labour. most of us pay other people to slaughter and gut animals for the table. what's the problem in doing the same with email, if you can afford it... 417169;1386792902;mircea_popescu;sbp at some point they used to. 417170;1386793214;kanzure;sbp: would be nice if the pope starts using btc. then church finances become slightly more auditable. 417171;1386793229;mircea_popescu;Look folks, I know that software rot (sometimes called "progress") 417172;1386793229;mircea_popescu;keeps growing, and backwards compatibility is not always possible. 417173;1386793230;mircea_popescu;hahaha 417174;1386793257;kanzure;that's just a clever way of saying "you do it" 417175;1386793326;mircea_popescu;he mirrors quite exacrtly why i quit caring about html validation and "validity" in general, circa 2007 417176;1386793344;mircea_popescu;blessfully ignorant of the guy's pov. but fuck you html standards people. 417177;1386793383;mircea_popescu;this is one of those situations where the spec may only grow. you're free to add css into the spec, but you are not allowed to "stop supporting" table elements or w/e 417178;1386793397;asciilifeform;http://philip.greenspun.com/research/shame-and-war-old 417179;1386793397;ozbot;We Have Chosen Shame and Will Get War. 417180;1386793597;mircea_popescu;Make a graph with time on the x-axis and formatting capabilities on the y-axis. Draw a line from the HTML level 1 to HTML level 3. You'll see that HTML reaches LaTeX's level of formatting capability around the year 2000. 417181;1386793602;mircea_popescu;If we are going to get there eventually, we might as well get there soon. 417182;1386793605;mircea_popescu;ha. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA 417183;1386793608;mircea_popescu;o kill me dead. 417184;1386793610;mircea_popescu;what ? 417185;1386793776;mircea_popescu;;;bcstats 417186;1386793779;gribble;Current Blocks: 274385 | Current Difficulty: 9.08350862437022E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 276191 | Next Difficulty In: 1806 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 3 hours, 33 minutes, and 20 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 1051660720.0 | Estimated Percent Change: 15.77693 417187;1386794395;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.05 = 1 BTC 417188;1386794937;pankkake;https://bitbucket.org/pankkake/asslyrics/src/87b8e1c6b67c1692dc4b37081a8db8615ddb2509/straightouttatimisoara.txt?at=master could be longer, but I ran out of inspiration 417189;1386794938;ozbot;pankkake / asslyrics 417190;1386794940;nubbins`;LaTeX is great 417191;1386794951;pankkake;but ugly 417192;1386794957;nubbins`;only when you're creating it. 417193;1386794967;nubbins`;looks beautiful once you're done ;D 417194;1386794997;nubbins`;dogecoin << would buy 417195;1386795007;benkay;unfortunately most designers can only gui and so we have pdf. huzzah. 417196;1386795036;mircea_popescu;people who can only gui are not designers. 417197;1386795044;mircea_popescu;this is like saying "most engineers can only autocad" 417198;1386795062;asciilifeform;laugh, but this has become an actual fact. 417199;1386795063;benkay;"designers", then. 417200;1386795066;mircea_popescu;pankkake this ain't a penis contest, it doesn't have to be long, it has to be thick 417201;1386795072;mircea_popescu;nm, on second thought it is a penis contest. 417202;1386795087;asciilifeform;'it will be long, it will be hard, and there shall be no withdrawal'... 417203;1386795097;pankkake;well this one is pretty much an egotrip, and you should be an endless source of that 417204;1386795105;dexX7;there was a small discussion about korean ips monitors with ThickAsThieves and kakobrekla some weeks ago.. i ended up buying two dell u2412m and had a 27" here earlier, but it was too big. but i have to say: ips displays are nice 417205;1386795106;pankkake;:D 417206;1386795111;mircea_popescu;how's the girl gonna sing it then lol 417207;1386795113;sbp;kanzure: Snoop Dogg is into BTC, don't see why Francis I shouldn't be next 417208;1386795125;pankkake;I wouldn't go back to anything non IPS 417209;1386795134;pankkake;pretty much requirement number one for a place of work 417210;1386795153;pankkake;cause Francis is a communist 417211;1386795158;asciilifeform;the rhyme reminds me of another: http://blog.sayan.ee/a-birthday-poem/ 417212;1386795177;mircea_popescu;;;google "it will be long; it will be hard; and there shall be no withdrawal." 417213;1386795178;gribble;Percocet withdrawals, how long do they last? - Addiction: Substance ...: ; How To Detox From Opiates At Home - Withdrawal Ease: ; Alcohol Withdrawal Symptoms Can Make It Hard to Quit Drinking: (1 more message) 417214;1386795188;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20512 @ 0.00088319 = 18.116 BTC [+] {3} 417215;1386795225;asciilifeform;winston c. 417216;1386795253;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform the only google hit on the actual quoted string comes from files.meetup.com/8900962/Review%20Chap.%203-4%20Gurl-Posse.doc 417217;1386795260;asciilifeform;weird 417218;1386795261;mircea_popescu;which i find strangely strengthens your point 417219;1386795265;pankkake;Gurl Posse lol 417220;1386795276;mircea_popescu;pankkake a REVIEW thereof. 417221;1386795280;mircea_popescu;it just blew my mind. 417222;1386795313;pankkake;google book search can often give you strange results 417223;1386795331;asciilifeform;just the question of what is a 'gurl', one could think about for a while. 417224;1386795335;mircea_popescu;http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/mean_girls_picture.bmp << who's the awkward / uncomfortable chick on the left ? 417225;1386795355;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform a gurl is a waitress past her 30th bday. 417226;1386795371;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21450 @ 0.00087902 = 18.855 BTC [-] 417227;1386795371;mircea_popescu;rarely, a younger girl that will be a waitress past 30. 417228;1386795405;asciilifeform;that's more or less: usa in one sentence. 417229;1386795405;TomServo;dexX7: was anything larger recommended? 417230;1386795449;dexX7;there are super cheap (but worth) 27" ips displays from korea on ebay 417231;1386795479;asciilifeform;amusingly, loan word 'герла' is more or less equivalent in meaning to 'gurl' above. 417232;1386795485;dexX7;but it's too big imho 417233;1386795489;TomServo;I've looked at those, but have always been hesitant 417234;1386795495;pankkake;;;ud gurl 417235;1386795495;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gurl | the way of spelling girl, favourd by girls below the age of 14 or dyslexics. 417236;1386795496;ozbot;Urban Dictionary: gurl 417237;1386795507;nubbins`;doge is maybe the best meme yet 417238;1386795511;nubbins`;just putting it out there 417239;1386795522;asciilifeform;27 inch proper 'Eizo'. 600 or so usd, ebay, new. perhaps it 'fell off truck' 417240;1386795543;mircea_popescu;nubbins` what is it ? 417241;1386795572;nubbins`;just a japanese dog with a lelly face usually accompanied by engrish nonsense in neon comic sans ms 417242;1386795574;asciilifeform;16:9 lcd is mostly worthless unless you turn it, though. 417243;1386795580;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform also amusingly, gherla is romania's largest, most infamous prison and also an informal way to say "prison" in general. 417244;1386795587;TomServo;Yeah, I'd prefer 16:10 417245;1386795614;asciilifeform;3:4. 417246;1386795618;nubbins`;http://0.tqn.com/d/humor/1/0/P/T/-/-/wow-such-math-ti-doge-meme1.jpg 417247;1386795626;dexX7;lol 417248;1386795629;sbp;mircea_popescu: Lindsay Lohan, by the looks 417249;1386795647;mircea_popescu;wow she was that young once huh. 417250;1386795682;nubbins`;http://0.tqn.com/d/humor/1/0/J/T/-/-/doge.jpg 417251;1386795686;nubbins`;^ 417252;1386795697;nubbins`;etc 417253;1386795716;dexX7;awesome 417254;1386795730;mircea_popescu;lol 417255;1386795735;mircea_popescu;such azn. 417256;1386795738;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.00087523 = 12.6033 BTC [-] {2} 417257;1386795751;sbp;nubbins`: DOGECOIN: http://cdn0.dailydot.com/uploaded/images/original/2013/12/10/LgdyCfv.png 417258;1386795759;asciilifeform;i'd love to buy an lcd, 2 M or so diagonal. but it would need to have at least the same pixel density as the eizo. 417259;1386795762;nubbins`;nod, that's what caused me to bring it up 417260;1386795763;nubbins`;:D 417261;1386795766;sbp;oh, heh 417262;1386795789;nubbins`;http://24.media.tumblr.com/96919db8f22694170e85609491008230/tumblr_mtt0bmFOTZ1qjetuoo1_500.jpg 417263;1386795818;nubbins`;http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/much+doge.+save+doge+at+http+www.funnyjunk.com+funnypictures+4779312+save+doge_d14d44_4778954.jpg 417264;1386795820;nubbins`;^ leel 417265;1386795849;nubbins`;much doge 417266;1386795903;wao-ender;oh dogecoin finally arrived here 417267;1386795940;nubbins`;http://i.imgur.com/TUajDcw.jpg 417268;1386795941;nubbins`;ahahahaha 417269;1386795944;asciilifeform;much more doge. http://i.imgur.com/M6GApQd.jpg 417270;1386795970;dexX7;:D 417271;1386795983;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform i was gonna do that lol. much better. such meme now. 417272;1386795984;mircea_popescu;wow. 417273;1386795997;asciilifeform;nubbins`: (unrelated) shirts are in. thanks! 417274;1386796014;nubbins`;ah, great! cheers 417275;1386796025;nubbins`;how'd the box hold up? 417276;1386796030;asciilifeform;dour old woman at post office: 'how the hell did you get this through customs without a name' 417277;1386796043;mircea_popescu;did you tell her "power of bitcoin, lady" ? 417278;1386796046;nubbins`;haha 417279;1386796077;nubbins`;i should probably start putting a full return address on these packages, too 417280;1386796116;mircea_popescu;http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BlackBestFriend 417281;1386796117;ozbot;Main/Black Best Friend - Television Tropes & Idioms 417282;1386796122;nubbins`;altho to be fair you only need those 8 characters 417283;1386796125;asciilifeform;box came in entirely virginal. 417284;1386796127;mircea_popescu;tvtropes is such wow. 417285;1386796138;nubbins`;good news 417286;1386796173;nubbins`;http://webby.hazasite.com/r/SuperShibe/comments/1smg26/can_someone_explain_to_me_exactly_what_the_joke/ 417287;1386796176;nubbins`;haha, first comment 417288;1386796191;nubbins`;"doge mystery" "no explain" 417289;1386796193;kakobrekla;dexX7 yeah i got 4 so far 417290;1386796199;kakobrekla;and prolly will add 1 more 417291;1386796203;dexX7;lol :D 417292;1386796213;kakobrekla;thats the max i can hook up 417293;1386796234;kakobrekla;well, without the external adapters anyway 417294;1386796242;asciilifeform;speaking of bizarre: from the text of a spam sample: 'purchase extreme intestinal activity station'. 417295;1386796249;dexX7;five should be enough, i guess? 417296;1386796283;mircea_popescu;since we're doing spam, Hi My name is Anastasia. I am from Russia. It may surprise you, enjoy 417297;1386796309;kakobrekla;no spam 417298;1386796334;mircea_popescu;hm. you think ? 417299;1386796335;kakobrekla;it says so right on the .. .eh.. nevermind 417300;1386796350;nubbins`;asciilifeform: so, an industrial sausage stuffer. 417301;1386796412;asciilifeform;since we're doing hardware minutiae: anyone know of a modern ECC mobo? 417302;1386796432;asciilifeform;i'd prefer not to live with my '07 Tyan for ever 417303;1386796518;nubbins`;mircea_popescu: best spam subject i've ever received is "Turn your peanut into a banana" 417304;1386796574;pankkake;spammers are extremely creative in avoiding the word penis now, it's amazing 417305;1386796574;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 417306;1386796600;asciilifeform;pankkake: '...come grasp the mighty phoenis of our Leader...' 417307;1386796659;asciilifeform;'btc! greatest blockchain in the wurld; all other blockchains are run by little gurls...' 417308;1386796717;mircea_popescu;actually, i would wager a guess that the disk space of btc blockchain > disk space of all other altcoins combined 417309;1386796765;asciilifeform;this is hardly surprising. 417310;1386796774;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5998 @ 0.00087892 = 5.2718 BTC [+] 417311;1386796802;asciilifeform;although i'd also be surprised if altcoin aficionados don't take to bloating their chains to 'look relevant'. 417312;1386796816;nubbins`;http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/3d-printer-by-sask-man-gets-record-crowdsourced-cash-1.2417416 417313;1386796817;ozbot;3D printer by Sask. man gets record crowdsourced cash - Saskatchewan - CBC News 417314;1386796819;nubbins`;wow 417315;1386796826;nubbins`;that's a crazy way to print 417316;1386796838;asciilifeform;not new 417317;1386796844;asciilifeform;that was actually the original '3d printer' 417318;1386796847;asciilifeform;in the '70s. 417319;1386796877;asciilifeform;it was even mentioned in soviet 'наука и жизнь' mag ('science & life', similar to 'scientific american') 417320;1386796894;nubbins`;oh ya? 417321;1386796932;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform well now that it was said, definitely. 417322;1386796950;mircea_popescu;before, not likely. these people are not inovators, after all. 417323;1386796954;mircea_popescu;so it's useful in retrospect. 417324;1386797006;asciilifeform;e.g. http://www.google.com/patents/US4575330 417325;1386797048;mircea_popescu;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UY92AE1Aj-U 417326;1386797048;ozbot;Animaniacs Variety Speak 2 - YouTube 417327;1386797127;asciilifeform;actually the fellow in the link did make a useful twist 417328;1386797156;asciilifeform;moving the 'z' platform by draining a tank (a la ancient greek 'klepsydra' clock) instead of a stepper motor. 417329;1386797163;pankkake;if you exclude namecoin, and the datacoin aberration, probably 417330;1386797192;pankkake;oh well, namecoin is only 1.5G :o 417331;1386797296;asciilifeform;problem with stereolithography is that you need a foul-smelling, poisonous, and quite expensive liquid polymer. 417332;1386797300;mircea_popescu;har har pankkake :D 417333;1386797319;asciilifeform;and the resulting product is quite brittle. 417334;1386797320;mircea_popescu;and the datacoin thing was what, 50mb ? 417335;1386797333;nubbins`;these resins seem to remain flexible once cured 417336;1386797354;nubbins`;but yeah, consumables cost is probably through the roof 417337;1386797358;pankkake;it's still a thing, allows big things to be stored at once. still at this time it's probably nothing 417338;1386797361;asciilifeform;you can buy uv-cured 'rubber', yes. 417339;1386797374;pankkake;litecoin 2.2G 417340;1386797379;nubbins`;ah, $60 per liter 417341;1386797412;asciilifeform;i still don't get why '3d printer' is so fashionable. 417342;1386797418;nubbins`;interesting that it uses audio to transmit the information 417343;1386797425;nubbins`;asciilifeform: it's the ultimate novelty. 417344;1386797427;pankkake;for people who don't know how to build things 417345;1386797434;pankkake;(like me :p) 417346;1386797448;asciilifeform;i mean, i get the usefulness of wangling together mechanical prototypes without the dust of machining, etc. 417347;1386797453;asciilifeform;but why the mass hysteria 417348;1386797460;ThickAsThieves;;;estimate 417349;1386797462;gribble;Next difficulty estimate | 1047921554.97 based on data since last change | 894132728.373 based on data for last three days 417350;1386797463;nubbins`;asciilifeform: for most of the public, it's a solution in search of a problem 417351;1386797475;nubbins`;but if you've got a need for rapid prototyping, these things are worth their weight in gold 417352;1386797487;pankkake;well I'm sure it would make buying some products obsolete 417353;1386797497;nubbins`;i don't doubt that most of the 3d printers in people's homes were used to make a couple sets of chess pieces and now sit idle 417354;1386797502;pankkake;is it safe for sex toys? I fear it isn't, but that would be a great use 417355;1386797529;nubbins`;generally sex toys aren't made from hard plastic 417356;1386797542;asciilifeform;extrusion printer usually gives a rough surface 417357;1386797545;nubbins`;replacement battery covers for sex toys, sure 417358;1386797549;asciilifeform;but one can sand it smooth, or coat it in something 417359;1386797579;nubbins`;stomb boxes for guitar fx pedals 417360;1386797581;pankkake;anything porous is a bad idea 417361;1386797582;nubbins`;*stomp 417362;1386797596;nubbins`;yeah, 3d printed sex toy would actually be a bacteria factory 417363;1386797608;benkay;if you pour metals 3d printers are the bomb for casting 417364;1386797609;pankkake;it's a great solution for replacement parts in general yeah 417365;1386797619;nubbins`;benkay, good point 417366;1386797626;asciilifeform;dip it in 'plasti-dip' 417367;1386797636;nubbins`;hm 417368;1386797639;nubbins`;re:plasti-dip 417369;1386797646;nubbins`;i've seen lots of tools made with 3d printers 417370;1386797649;benkay;your metals just burn the plastic out of the casting 417371;1386797656;nubbins`;hemostats, pliers, tweezers, screwdriver grips, etc 417372;1386797656;benkay;obviously takes some tweaking, but totally feasible. 417373;1386797677;benkay;and the impossible-to-machine rib-holding-together-hardware, nubbins` 417374;1386797695;asciilifeform;benkay: two-step mold process. positive shape, wedge into clay for negative mold, bake, cast metal. 417375;1386797704;benkay;but man the ludicrous shit those poor companies struggling under the fda have to deal with 417376;1386797716;benkay;asciilifeform: yes, that is a casting process. 417377;1386797726;nubbins`;asciilifeform: i think benkay is thinking similar to a lost wax process 417378;1386797741;benkay;^^ 417379;1386797753;asciilifeform;i've thought about ways to electrolytically replace a (conductive) plastic with metal. 417380;1386797768;asciilifeform;but life is short. 417381;1386797785;nubbins`;sadly, not enough time to learn it all 417382;1386797808;benkay;i start over on a new domain every four years, i think. 417383;1386797817;asciilifeform;(for those who have no truck with 3d printing or the like, this isn't something which afaik exists.) 417384;1386797829;benkay;just enough time to become baseline competent but not anywhere near good. 417385;1386797833;asciilifeform;(currently there is only metal sintering, under noble gas. $0.5M.) 417386;1386797862;nubbins`;well there's short-term things and long-term things 417387;1386797869;nubbins`;coffee roasting was a short-term 417388;1386797880;nubbins`;printing is a long-term 417389;1386797897;nubbins`;you can generally tell by how much space you're willing to let something take up in your house 417390;1386797901;asciilifeform;the funniest part of the 3d printing in the popular media is the 'plastic gun.' 417391;1386797919;benkay;preach about the plastic gun, asciilifeform 417392;1386797921;nubbins`;asciilifeform: not a fucking chance would i put gunpowder inside anything i printed myself 417393;1386797927;asciilifeform;not that such a thing is impossible: medieval Korea had: leather cannon! 417394;1386797960;benkay;the gutters are full of humans eager to test the 20 dollar disposable firearm. 417395;1386797991;asciilifeform;wonder if anybody's fed Plastique into a 3d extruder. 417396;1386798004;nubbins`;haha 417397;1386798015;truffles;ban 3d printers 417398;1386798017;asciilifeform;'there are many 3d printed doorknobs, but this one - is special!' 417399;1386798025;mircea_popescu;the problems only begin there. firearms are mostly an obsolete technology. 417400;1386798036;benkay;how so obsolete? 417401;1386798037;mircea_popescu;you can get armor good enough to render any handheld firearm useless. 417402;1386798048;truffles;boom headshot 417403;1386798053;nubbins`;but does it fit over your face? 417404;1386798055;nubbins`;^^ 417405;1386798057;mircea_popescu;notice that the serious bank robbers etc use very heavy assault weapons 417406;1386798063;asciilifeform;armor is a tricky business 417407;1386798063;mircea_popescu;and that only worked up to about 2005 or so 417408;1386798078;benkay;can you armor the entire ghetto block squad? 417409;1386798079;asciilifeform;the people to whom the question applies have a rather lukewarm enthusiasm for it. 417410;1386798081;nubbins`;ah, i always figured the assault weapons were more for show 417411;1386798089;nubbins`;"these guys must be REALLY serious!" 417412;1386798105;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform see North Hollywood shootout etc. not that tricky. 417413;1386798112;mircea_popescu;a solved problem for > a decade by now 417414;1386798113;deadweasel;that was a great one 417415;1386798114;asciilifeform;state-of-the-art ceramic plate is rated for: 1 ak round. 417416;1386798116;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.145 = 0.58 BTC [+] 417417;1386798117;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10921 @ 0.00088531 = 9.6685 BTC [+] 417418;1386798119;asciilifeform;heavy, sweaty. 417419;1386798127;mircea_popescu;going on two decades. 417420;1386798175;truffles;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejD1Gml-ZGc this? 417421;1386798175;ozbot;North Hollywood Shootout - YouTube 417422;1386798183;asciilifeform;american grunts are issued 'kevlar', but tend to throw it out. and they, oddly, won't sleep in it. 417423;1386798227;asciilifeform;not to mention other fine point: armor sets you up for blunt trauma. 417424;1386798235;asciilifeform;the kinetic energy still has to go somewhere... 417425;1386798235;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform the reference was aramid. it withstood > 1k rounds from .38 and 9mm, as well as single action pump shotguns 417426;1386798238;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.02350002 = 0.235 BTC [+] {2} 417427;1386798270;asciilifeform;this is entirely plausible 417428;1386798277;asciilifeform;soft lead. 417429;1386798308;asciilifeform;but try finding a vendor willing to stand in it for target practice, for ten rounds much less a thousand. 417430;1386798314;asciilifeform;broken ribs. 417431;1386798356;asciilifeform;nobody cancelled newton's laws... 417432;1386798359;truffles;"patrol officers at the time were typically armed with a 9mm or .40 caliber pistol on their person, with a 12-gauge shotgun available in their cars. Phillips and Matasareanu carried fully automatic rifles and wore body armor. Since most handgun calibers cannot penetrate body armor, patrol officers had a significant disadvantage until SWAT arrived with equivalent firepower; they also 417433;1386798359;truffles;appropriated several semi-automatic rifles from a nearby firearms dealer to help even the odds. " 417434;1386798363;mircea_popescu;yes well, the story is this : two robbers with body armor did more damage to the city policeman pension and health insurance funds than would have been the case if they just let them keep the stolen money. 417435;1386798373;truffles;seems like its solved all round 417436;1386798381;mircea_popescu;even if you maange to print a gun, you will print a useless gun. 417437;1386798392;mircea_popescu;you need something very powerful to be able to do anything with it. 417438;1386798411;benkay;that's not the use case though. the use case is shitty guns for poor people in the decaying soviet states of america 417439;1386798424;mircea_popescu;benkay amusingly, amlar is easier to print than a gun. 417440;1386798427;asciilifeform;benkay: hardware store (or junkyard.) steel pipe. 417441;1386798437;asciilifeform;see harlan ellison's memoir of his '50s childhood 417442;1386798443;deadweasel;boomstick 417443;1386798445;asciilifeform;or virtually any work on prison weapons 417444;1386798471;benkay;amlar? 417445;1386798510;mircea_popescu;benkay aromatic polyamide. like kevlar, but with aroma. 417446;1386798511;the20year;Pretty easy to make a firearm out of supplies from tesco 417447;1386798569;asciilifeform;wait till people remember that kevlar (and other fiber armour) is useless against: arrows. 417448;1386798576;benkay;dahaha 417449;1386798582;the20year;asciilifeform: most current plates use ceramic which disperses the kenetic energy over a wide area, avoiding blunt tramua. Small arms fire has an amazingly low amount of kenetic energy compared to common measurements 417450;1386798582;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 417451;1386798600;the20year;asciilifeform: depends on which kind of kevlar vest you're talking about 417452;1386798604;mircea_popescu;also, it's easier to protect the head than the body. 417453;1386798619;mircea_popescu;bulletproof transparent rigid plastic was available before flexible stuff was. 417454;1386798655;mircea_popescu;the20year in fact, the kinetic energy of the bullet is roughly equal to the kinetic energy of the recoil. 417455;1386798662;asciilifeform;take simple example. ordinary ak round, ~2kJ (muzzle) 417456;1386798668;mircea_popescu;consequently, there's a limit to how heavy a round can be fired from the hand 417457;1386798669;asciilifeform;let's say 1kJ on impact, for the sake of argument. 417458;1386798682;mircea_popescu;and the thing is, armor has surpassed this minimum. handheld firearms are not particularly useful these days 417459;1386798696;mircea_popescu;(which is the REAL reason for the move towards tasers, not the feigned desire to avoid casualties) 417460;1386798709;asciilifeform;1kJ applied to a head with impenetrable armor -> neck trauma 417461;1386798719;asciilifeform;unless you're willing to wear the equivalent of a 19th century diving suit 417462;1386798727;deadweasel;^ 417463;1386798729;benkay;all this fighting talk is causing thoughts of chumpatrons based on armor and weapons 417464;1386798761;asciilifeform;the phuture, if one insists, is in the self-aiming rifle. 417465;1386798761;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform depends a lot on the angle. 417466;1386798771;asciilifeform;like those pocket cameras that highlight faces. 417467;1386798779;mircea_popescu;people regularly take kj's to the head in most sports. 417468;1386798780;deadweasel;i think we should test these theories. somebody get me some armor, I'll youtube the experiments per your instructions. Only have 9mm and .40 for testing 417469;1386798796;deadweasel;i'm not sure if I'm joking 417470;1386798801;deadweasel;only one way to find out 417471;1386798802;mircea_popescu;deadweasel you can always use a dummy 417472;1386798806;mircea_popescu;like the car crash dummies 417473;1386798807;deadweasel;boring 417474;1386798809;mircea_popescu;not that this hasn't been done. 417475;1386798810;deadweasel;so boring 417476;1386798819;asciilifeform;phun phact: archduke ferdinand is said to have worn an early bulletproof vest. 417477;1386798823;asciilifeform;at the time of his death. 417478;1386798824;deadweasel;watching body armor video tests can be mesmerizing 417479;1386798828;asciilifeform;headshot 417480;1386798835;deadweasel;lol 417481;1386798843;the20year;You could do what the military and FBI does.... 417482;1386798857;the20year;But who cares about pre-existing data? Everyone has to discover for themselves ,right? 417483;1386798859;truffles;hide? 417484;1386798868;mircea_popescu; But who cares about pre-existing data? Everyone has to discover for themselves ,right? <<< qft. 417485;1386798888;deadweasel;qft? quite fucking true? 417486;1386798896;mircea_popescu;quoted for truth 417487;1386798898;truffles;quoted for 417488;1386798902;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform wasn't he killed by a bomb ? 417489;1386798904;deadweasel;ic 417490;1386798916;the20year;No, he was shot close range with a little pistol 417491;1386798923;deadweasel;i'm puncy as hell today, somebody shoot me already 417492;1386798928;asciilifeform;neck. 417493;1386798932;mircea_popescu;o it was the russian guy that was bombed. 417494;1386798954;asciilifeform;legend has it that submarine architects were once made to take a trip to max depth before the machine would be paid for. 417495;1386798961;asciilifeform;no reason why this shouldn't apply to armour makers. 417496;1386798976;the20year;don't you look at armor tests? 417497;1386799010;the20year;Some armor makers do put their armor on and get shot, i wouldn't due it due to spall, but some believe that much in their product 417498;1386799026;asciilifeform;arms vs. armour is a classic race that the latter tends to lose. witness 'reactive armour' on tank. 417499;1386799050;asciilifeform;the pill against it: round with two warheads. 417500;1386799053;the20year;It's usually a endless cycle of bigger armor being beaten by a bigger gun , IE ww2 f or instance 417501;1386799057;asciilifeform;or simple good aim (hit same spot twice.0 417502;1386799058;mircea_popescu;"while Mătăsăreanu's chest armor even successfully withstood a hit from a SWAT operator's AR-15" 417503;1386799060;mircea_popescu;no, srsly. 417504;1386799070;asciilifeform;it will be interesting to see reactive armor built for a man 417505;1386799072;asciilifeform;rather than tank 417506;1386799077;the20year;Most rifles won't make it through AR500 steel plate 417507;1386799090;the20year;It's stupidly easy to make body armor that will withstand most conventional rifle ammo, granted it's quite heavy 417508;1386799107;asciilifeform;the20year: ask a soldier how much he'd like to wear plate mail. 417509;1386799113;the20year;Why the heck would anyone want reactive armor on their body? The concussion would kill you when it activated 417510;1386799125;the20year;Well, most wear ceramic armor that's stronger than AR500, so many do 417511;1386799130;the20year;I know my brother in law did, when he was in iraq 417512;1386799156;asciilifeform;there are men strong enough to run about, climb, etc. in plate mail, yes. 417513;1386799160;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform let me find you that quote re armor. 417514;1386799186;the20year;The average soldier carries about 100lbs of gear into battle, so 20lb of armor isn't a big deal. thus why the US military is testing powered armor 417515;1386799208;truffles;theyve got drones now 417516;1386799216;asciilifeform;i attended an interesting talk once by a concussion expert 417517;1386799216;the20year;And still want boots on the ground, so.... 417518;1386799221;the20year;Drones can always be defeated 417519;1386799230;truffles;they look intimidating 417520;1386799236;truffles;the massive ones with legs 417521;1386799238;the20year;Oh well 417522;1386799247;mircea_popescu;From the foundation of the city till the reign of the Emperor Gratian, the foot wore cuirasses and helmets. But negligence and sloth having by degrees introduced a total relaxation of discipline, the soldiers began to think their armor too heavy, as they seldom put it on. They first requested leave from the Emperor to lay aside the cuirass and afterwards the helmet. In consequence of this, our troops in their engagemen 417523;1386799247;mircea_popescu;ts with the Goths were often overwhelmed with their showers of arrows. Nor was the necessity of obliging the infantry to resume their cuirasses and helmets discovered, notwithstanding such repeated defeats, which brought on the destruction of so many great cities. Troops, defenseless and exposed to all the weapons of the enemy, are more disposed to fly than fight. What can be expected from a foot-archer without cuirass 417524;1386799248;mircea_popescu;or helmet, who cannot hold at once his bow and shield; or from the ensigns whose bodies are naked, and who cannot at the same time carry a shield and the colors? The foot soldier finds the weight of a cuirass and even of a helmet intolerable. This is because he is so seldom exercised and rarely puts them on. 417525;1386799253;asciilifeform;he had a computer model which explained why certain - helmeted - men ended up with brain damage, while grunts in the same vehicle, sans helmet, didn't. 417526;1386799263;asciilifeform;the helmet focused the shock wave. 417527;1386799338;asciilifeform;not that armour is worthless - simply that reality is a complicated place. 417528;1386799361;truffles;or we're not that advance yet 417529;1386799372;mircea_popescu;reality may be a complicated place, but the tactical utility of printed guns is still purely imaginary. 417530;1386799379;the20year;correct 417531;1386799396;mircea_popescu;even if you get them to shoot safely, you're far far away from them shooting energetically enough to count 417532;1386799397;the20year;The real use for 3d printed guns (in the US at least) is to make ones that utilize the homebuilding law so they're not on paperwork 417533;1386799398;asciilifeform;printed crossbow could conceivably be of some use. 417534;1386799408;the20year;Why is printing important? 417535;1386799415;mircea_popescu;it's much easier to make a crossvbow than to print one 417536;1386799424;benkay;i am more convinced than i was an hour ago on the printable guns thing 417537;1386799428;the20year;tabletop CnC is cheap and you can make just about any firearm you want with one 417538;1386799429;asciilifeform;some people seems to fetishize the process of 'push a button without thinking' 417539;1386799432;mircea_popescu;i could make you one within the hour, and teach you to make one in a day 417540;1386799438;the20year;and lathes and milling machines have existed for 100 years 417541;1386799442;asciilifeform;which is why 3d printer is a mass topic at all 417542;1386799447;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform ya well those people also have nil tactical utility-value. 417543;1386799465;the20year;Think about it , the first belt fed machine gun was made in the late 1800s, do you think that the technology to make it has magically disappeared? 417544;1386799472;asciilifeform;in afghanistan, in africa, blacksmiths build perfectly good ak clones with hand tools. 417545;1386799482;asciilifeform;not rocket surgery here. 417546;1386799502;the20year;COrrect 417547;1386799519;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 4927 @ 0.00296834 = 14.625 BTC [+] {13} 417548;1386799528;asciilifeform;modern ammunition, on the other hand, requires industry. 417549;1386799538;the20year;How so 417550;1386799549;mircea_popescu;you can mix your own powder and make your own bullets just fine 417551;1386799560;asciilifeform;certainly, for a musket. 417552;1386799568;mircea_popescu;just reuse the casings :D 417553;1386799575;mircea_popescu;they did it in fallout! 417554;1386799577;the20year;Brass casings are reusable, gunpowder can be made cheaply/effectiely from easy to procure chemcicals , the bullet is the easiest part itself to mak 417555;1386799579;the20year;*make 417556;1386799596;benkay;yes but xbows 417557;1386799599;benkay;i am a convince. 417558;1386799602;mircea_popescu;the20year he has a point tho, in the sense of brass casingsd are reusable for a finite number of shots. 417559;1386799602;asciilifeform;primers are tricky 417560;1386799604;the20year;Plus i'm not aware of any country that has made brass cases illegal 417561;1386799608;the20year;Not exactly 417562;1386799626;the20year;Casings can last over 50 times if you download the ammo, which you will be doing anyway with homemade powder 417563;1386799632;mircea_popescu;over 50 times is finite. 417564;1386799638;the20year;Primers are easy to make, the chemical composition is 150 years old 417565;1386799641;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 540 @ 0.003 = 1.62 BTC [+] {2} 417566;1386799650;the20year;Well, if you want infinite, then just make your own cases 417567;1386799652;asciilifeform;if you're in a real bind, you might want to go with liquid propellant and electrical priming. 417568;1386799661;mircea_popescu;which requires some industry. is all i was saying. 417569;1386799668;the20year;Why? conventional powder and primer compound is cheap and effective 417570;1386799676;the20year;If by industry you mean a guy with a set of presses and punches, sure 417571;1386799693;asciilifeform;cheap is a tricky concept. a plastic fork is cheap, until it isn't, and is entirely unobtainable 417572;1386799696;the20year;But remember, during WW2 most ammo in the USSR was being made by giving children the tools to do it 417573;1386799705;asciilifeform;if you have to make it with your own hands 417574;1386799716;the20year;asciilifeform: $50 will get you enough priming compound to load 10,000 rounds of ammunition 417575;1386799728;asciilifeform;today. in a civilized place. 417576;1386799730;mircea_popescu;ha, since i was going through old tomes, look what a gem i found : 417577;1386799731;mircea_popescu;"Although these men differ in customs and language from those with whom they have taken refuge, and are unaccustomed too, if I may say so, to the nauseous odor of the bodies and clothing of the barbarians, yet they prefer the strange life they find there to the injustice rife among the Romans." 417578;1386799750;mircea_popescu;" So you find men passing over everywhere, now to the Goths, now to the Bagaudae, or whatever other barbarians have established their power anywhere ... We call those men rebels and utterly abandoned, whom we ourselves have forced into crime. For by what other causes were they made Bagaudae save by our unjust acts, the wicked decisions of the magistrates, the proscription and extortion of those who have turned the publ 417579;1386799750;mircea_popescu;ic exactions to the increase of their private fortunes and made the tax indictions their opportunity for plunder?" 417580;1386799753;the20year;If this is all theoretical then, just stock up on ammo if you live in the US , or reloading components 417581;1386799791;asciilifeform;the20year: this is a tremendously-popular hobby here. 417582;1386799808;the20year;what hobby? WHere is here? 417583;1386799812;asciilifeform;u.s. 417584;1386799822;the20year;Easy to buy ammo and stock up in the US 417585;1386799841;the20year;There's absolutely no reason in worrying about all this theoretical stuff, just buy cheap and stack deep if you live here 417586;1386799882;asciilifeform;the original discussion was, i think, about what could in principle be made with one's own hands, out of commonly-available raw materials 417587;1386799909;the20year;Then your answer is - Submachine guns 417588;1386799929;the20year;If you want to go the firearms route 417589;1386799931;asciilifeform;the gun is the easy part 417590;1386799935;asciilifeform;that was the point 417591;1386799947;the20year;Ammo isn't too bad if you want to set up the process ,or just make a muzzleloader 417592;1386799956;asciilifeform;muzzle-loading submachine gun? 417593;1386799963;the20year;just a muzzleloader 417594;1386800073;asciilifeform;point remains, that the military significance of 3d printer is small, while that of the hand file and forge, remains great. 417595;1386800119;the20year;Correct 417596;1386800135;the20year;The Sten and PPS-43 were both primarily made by children during ww2, and they are still being used around the world today 417597;1386800144;the20year;Both at a cost of just a few dollar (equivilent) at the time 417598;1386800193;asciilifeform;right. 'open bolt' schema is easy to manufacture, and for that (among other reasons) is forbidden in the u.s. 417599;1386800208;the20year;Up until 1980 :D 417600;1386800224;the20year;Technically, if you can find a open-bolt gun that was made prior to 1980 it's still legal 417601;1386800251;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 30 @ 0.02419965 = 0.726 BTC [+] {3} 417602;1386800253;asciilifeform;i recall reading that they're bought and sold rather like famous paintings. 417603;1386800273;asciilifeform;with traceable pedigree, etc. 417604;1386800304;the20year;It's easy to find and date them based on serial numbers, sales price is quite high though, around $2,000 for a tec-9 or 22 that sold for say $150 prior to 1980 417605;1386800320;asciilifeform;interesting 417606;1386800343;the20year;Same with guns manufactured prior to 1898 that aren't considered firearms anymore 417607;1386800361;the20year;Even though they might take modern cartridges 417608;1386800372;asciilifeform;how did it come about that they aren't considered arms? 417609;1386800386;the20year;That's just hte cutoff date 417610;1386800391;the20year;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antique_gun 417611;1386800391;ozbot;Antique gun - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 417612;1386800406;the20year;I have a 1895 mauser that's an antique....is an absolutely awesome rifle 417613;1386800460;asciilifeform;this legal oddity rings a bell. i once wandered into an antique shop near wash. dc, and they had an Ottoman musket for sale. no paperwork, etc. 417614;1386800488;the20year;Anything prior to 1899 is legal , granted some states have other rules. Sadly the maxim and potato digger aren't covered 417615;1386800500;asciilifeform;potato digger? 417616;1386800515;the20year;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1895_Colt-Browning_machine_gun 417617;1386800515;ozbot;M1895 Colt-Browning machine gun - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 417618;1386800518;the20year;First US made machine gun 417619;1386800550;truffles;imagine if they had those back in the day 417620;1386800553;truffles;line up and spray 417621;1386800560;the20year;in what day? 417622;1386800569;the20year;They were used from the late 1800s through ww2 417623;1386800570;truffles;1800s ? 417624;1386800574;the20year;Maxim is still being used today 417625;1386800577;truffles;ok 1600s 417626;1386800596;the20year;Well, in the 1700s you had the giardoni air rifle which was a rapid fire gun 417627;1386800614;asciilifeform;the one where the air bottle sometimes burst? 417628;1386800623;the20year;Yeah 417629;1386800626;asciilifeform;famous 'before their time' techno masterpiece... 417630;1386800638;the20year;Granted if you want to see what happens when you use line warfar against machine guns, just take a look at ww1 417631;1386800731;the20year;would have been no different than 1800s, 1700s, 1600s - massed infantry in static lines trying to take positions held by machine guns 417632;1386800792;asciilifeform;technologically-mismatched battles are a curious fetish among some people 417633;1386800809;asciilifeform;maxim against cavalry, 'drone' against rusty truck in afghanistan... 417634;1386800812;the20year;Sure, but if you're curious what happens, there's plenty of information out there on when it does ocurr 417635;1386800841;asciilifeform;maxim vs. zulu, perhaps most famously 417636;1386800847;the20year;Or italian cavalry in ww2 attacking soviet positions, a bayonette charge in iraq in 2004, the last usage of a sword in combat in vietnam , ect 417637;1386800870;asciilifeform;there are persistent rumours of a Polish ww2 lance charge against a tank column. 417638;1386800876;the20year;Rourkes drift comes pretty close to that 417639;1386800939;asciilifeform;for further anachronism value: chariots (albeit with maxim) saw plentiful action in the russian civil war. 417640;1386801054;mircea_popescu;a trained man with a sword is a better asset in close quarters than dudes with guns 417641;1386801066;the20year;Yeah 417642;1386801068;mircea_popescu;course that training is prohibitively expensive 417643;1386801073;the20year;Thus why police have the 21ft rule 417644;1386801077;asciilifeform;"an officer without a sword is improperly dressed" 417645;1386801077;mircea_popescu;so it's not really practical, from a strategic perspective. nevertheless... 417646;1386801085;asciilifeform;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Churchill 417647;1386801085;ozbot;Jack Churchill - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 417648;1386801090;the20year;soldiers still carry bayonettes 417649;1386801110;mircea_popescu;the20year and don't know how to use them 417650;1386801120;the20year;Tell that to the scotts 417651;1386801135;mircea_popescu;i just meant generally. 417652;1386801230;the20year;I don't know , when i talked to a guy in 2003-4 about his time in Iraq, he seemed to indicate his unit trained with them. I do believe the marines still train 417653;1386801252;mircea_popescu;people all over the us train in reading and writing. 417654;1386801254;mircea_popescu;so what of it ? 417655;1386801262;nubbins`;^ leel 417656;1386801267;nubbins`;point of the day 417657;1386801293;the20year;Eh, i'd bet money there are plenty that still could use them effectively 417658;1386801300;mircea_popescu;no argument there. 417659;1386801320;mircea_popescu;an army however is about the weakest not the strongest link 417660;1386801334;asciilifeform;if i recall, bayonet is the original 'MAD' weapon 417661;1386801336;mircea_popescu;(which is why the us army has been evolving towards smaller and smaller units as the quality of recruits sunk) 417662;1386801347;asciilifeform;in that most bayonet charges did not end with a mass perforation, but with one side fleeing 417663;1386801351;the20year;Yeah, that's been the US tradition for a while though 417664;1386801359;the20year;except in vietnam with the US army 417665;1386801580;mircea_popescu;so in the most recent rng tests for the cardano we now see Entropy = 7.999926 bits per byte. 417666;1386801596;mircea_popescu;Monte Carlo value for Pi is 3.141602161 ; Serial correlation coefficient is 0.000435 417667;1386801602;Apocalyptic;that's brutally great 417668;1386801615;mircea_popescu;i daresay this is the best 2,5mb random sample i ever did see 417669;1386801633;nubbins`;awesome 417670;1386801649;mircea_popescu;it's definitely up there. 417671;1386801649;pankkake;too good to be true, scam 417672;1386801702;nubbins`;are the final dimensions known? 417673;1386801705;mircea_popescu;for the benefit of "i can write a website too!" crowd : this is the result of removing about 14 different bias sources 417674;1386801710;asciilifeform;2 x 3 inch. 417675;1386801714;mircea_popescu;which "weren't there" when we begun taking them out 417676;1386801717;nubbins`;ah, smaller than a business card 417677;1386801719;nubbins`;height? 417678;1386801719;asciilifeform;~1 tall 417679;1386801722;nubbins`;aha 417680;1386801724;nubbins`;that's nice 417681;1386801748;asciilifeform;runs on a CR2450 417682;1386801776;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 38 @ 0.02269999 = 0.8626 BTC [+] {3} 417683;1386801786;nubbins`;ah nice 417684;1386801791;nubbins`;those are less than a buck each in quantity 417685;1386801796;asciilifeform;correct. 417686;1386801836;nubbins`;micro-usb in? 417687;1386801842;asciilifeform;yes. 417688;1386802264;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 625 @ 0.00290035 = 1.8127 BTC [-] {7} 417689;1386802882;Vexual;g'day gents 417690;1386802958;truffles;hello mate 417691;1386802989;Vexual;howzit? 417692;1386803020;truffles;alrighty mate, just sips of tea 417693;1386803031;truffles;u? 417694;1386803031;Vexual;lovely jubly 417695;1386803154;Vexual;foundation says no more 9.9k free tx 417696;1386803193;asciilifeform;didn't 'foundation' also say 'no more tx except from u.s. gov. approved addrs' ? 417697;1386803219;asciilifeform;or was that a dream 417698;1386803237;Vexual;yes, perhaps 10k wont print to a4 at the requisite font size 417699;1386803282;mircea_popescu;lol 417700;1386803294;pankkake;http://www.pidjin.net/2013/12/09/bitcoined/ 417701;1386803295;ozbot;Bitcoined « Fredo and Pidjin. The Webcomic. 417702;1386803355;mircea_popescu;lol romanians heard of bitcoin nao ? 417703;1386803358;mircea_popescu;this is the end days. 417704;1386803362;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12788 @ 0.00089389 = 11.4311 BTC [+] {3} 417705;1386803362;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.14699999 = 0.441 BTC [+] {2} 417706;1386803363;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.05 = 0.5 BTC 417707;1386803391;Apocalyptic;heh 417708;1386803451;asciilifeform;http://www.pidjin.net/2013/11/07/famous-last-words/ 417709;1386803452;ozbot;Famous last words « Fredo and Pidjin. The Webcomic. 417710;1386803498;Vexual;;see... 417711;1386803586;asciilifeform;http://www.pidjin.net/2013/09/26/clean-job/ 417712;1386803587;ozbot;Clean job « Fredo and Pidjin. The Webcomic. 417713;1386803665;Vexual;standardize, protect, and promote 417714;1386803746;Vexual;different departments? 417715;1386803998;Vexual;Although Bitcoin is not anonymous by default, Bitcoin addresses were not a factor in solving the case. SPAM is not Paleo lol 417759;1386806571;Diablo-D3;theres no spam in that 417760;1386806593;pankkake;he meant the canned food. I guess 417761;1386806656;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.292101 = 0.8763 BTC [+] 417762;1386806682;jurov;http://www.flickr.com/photos/fuxoft/6806801300/in/set-1496129 some paleo stuff 417763;1386806682;mircea_popescu;can you pickle fat ? 417764;1386806683;ozbot;Penis licker | Flickr - Photo Sharing 417765;1386806694;mircea_popescu;melon rinds, fattie rinds, all the same. 417766;1386806717;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 16 @ 0.29204749 = 4.6728 BTC [-] {5} 417767;1386806746;truffles;spring rolls! 417768;1386806763;deadweasel;two roasted chickens 417769;1386806780;truffles;one isnt enough eh 417770;1386806805;deadweasel;eating alone? 417771;1386806813;deadweasel;go find a hobo 417772;1386806816;deadweasel;feed him chicken 417773;1386806839;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.29203 BTC [-] 417774;1386806842;truffles;i try not to make solo "meals" 417775;1386806895;deadweasel;so what are you gonna make? 417776;1386806900;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 689 @ 0.0028798 = 1.9842 BTC [-] {8} 417777;1386806915;deadweasel;don't leave me hangin' bro 417778;1386806933;truffles;cant make the stuff there, dont have ingredients, but i do plan on making meat ball stew/soup 417779;1386806984;deadweasel;nom. 417780;1386807000;truffles;yea hopefully i dont have to eat it all! 417781;1386807056;deadweasel;it's a problem.. i ate 3/4 of a casserole last night. good luck, i haven't figured that one out. 417782;1386807085;truffles;ur gf is picky eater? 417783;1386807102;deadweasel;wat? 417784;1386807121;truffles;u said u got a "new" gf 2 days ago or so 417785;1386807146;deadweasel;so far she has eaten everything I've fed her. 417786;1386807159;deadweasel;no pun intended. 417787;1386807163;truffles;haha 417788;1386807176;mircea_popescu;no punis intended ? 417789;1386807204;deadweasel;no, penis tended. 417790;1386807205;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17739 @ 0.00088976 = 15.7835 BTC [-] {2} 417791;1386807221;benkay;penis tendered! 417792;1386807224;deadweasel;slightly tenderized. 417793;1386807240;deadweasel;her your receipt, mam 417794;1386807246;deadweasel;here* 417795;1386807249;benkay;hold up i gotta tender some cock 417796;1386807249;mircea_popescu;turgid ball soup 417797;1386807254;deadweasel;lol 417798;1386807254;mircea_popescu;sounds like an azn eatery. 417799;1386807296;deadweasel;it's probably tasty. 417800;1386807304;truffles;a man should eat what is presented to him though 417801;1386807310;truffles;good for her not being picky 417802;1386807311;deadweasel;let us know truf 417803;1386807328;deadweasel;i ate all stuff too, no worries there. :) 417804;1386807332;deadweasel;her* 417805;1386807336;deadweasel;words not making to kb 417806;1386807338;deadweasel;wtf 417807;1386807355;truffles;ure not talking about food anymore im guessing 417808;1386807384;deadweasel;no, she bought brunch 417809;1386807414;deadweasel;go eat your turgid balls and bring pics 417810;1386807433;truffles;thats for tomorrow 417811;1386807440;truffles;i could do something different 417812;1386807458;truffles;http://thedomesticman.com/2011/04/04/chicken-cordon-bleu/#more-1069 looks yum 417813;1386807459;ozbot;Chicken Cordon Bleu | The Domestic Man 417814;1386807655;nubbins`;http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:157844 417815;1386807663;ozbot;P6*6 120 Pinhole Camera by schlem - Thingiverse 417816;1386808425;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 64 @ 0.00250001 = 0.16 BTC [-] 417817;1386808428;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla http://bitbet.us/bet/519/btc-network-difficulty-to-top-1b-before-2014/#c2048 417818;1386808446;mircea_popescu;this is how you know you're top dog, noobs come to abuse your open comments to spamvertise their shit. 417819;1386808570;pankkake;"This is Bitcoin, which is worse than life." 417820;1386808605;kakobrekla;yeah, you can end life. you cant end bitcoin. 417821;1386808713;pankkake;;;estimate 417822;1386808714;gribble;Next difficulty estimate | 1027632809.34 based on data since last change | 894132728.373 based on data for last three days 417823;1386808719;pankkake;I so want it to be No 417824;1386808725;mircea_popescu;it was 1050 last iirc 417825;1386808736;mircea_popescu;flagging a little. this is gonna be a nailbiter 417826;1386808765;kakobrekla;also mp, captcha not hard enough 417827;1386808780;thestringpuller;yea why is the captcha always the same 417828;1386808796;kakobrekla;because you only need to prove you are smart once 417829;1386808808;deadweasel;Anonymous 07-12-13 at 15:36 417830;1386808810;deadweasel;If more kids starved in america there would be no snackmans 417831;1386808829;deadweasel;ok, who was that? 417832;1386808846;kakobrekla;prolly anon 417833;1386808852;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2920001 BTC [-] 417834;1386808859;deadweasel;noway 417835;1386808881;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla> because you only need to prove you are smart once << win 417836;1386808905;pankkake;that's very true, the first time I saw that captcha I think I was too lazy and closed the tab 417837;1386808910;mircea_popescu;captcha should probably be "name the last woman that gave you a fair lay" 417838;1386808913;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 28 @ 0.29082144 = 8.143 BTC [-] {7} 417839;1386808926;truffles;none 417840;1386808935;deadweasel;haha 417841;1386808954;mircea_popescu;if someone named their daughter None 417842;1386808960;mircea_popescu;and then she grew up to have no tits... 417843;1386808974;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.29 = 2.61 BTC [-] 417844;1386808979;dexX7;^ simple minded psychopath 417845;1386808989;mircea_popescu;ono 417846;1386808989;truffles;boob job ftw 417847;1386808990;mircea_popescu;:( 417848;1386809007;Vexual;you're supposed to laugh 417849;1386809013;mircea_popescu;i can't. 417850;1386809014;deadweasel;truf gotthe extra boobs? 417851;1386809023;Vexual;didn't you get the memo? 417852;1386809023;kakobrekla;dexX7, its complex minded psycopath 417853;1386809033;mircea_popescu;psychosith 417854;1386809035;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 17 @ 0.28701303 = 4.8792 BTC [-] {7} 417855;1386809039;kakobrekla;w/e 417856;1386809039;dexX7;hehe 417857;1386809052;truffles;boob jobs are waste, id tell my girl no 417858;1386809073;pankkake;is it better to have more boobs, or bigger boobs? 417859;1386809074;deadweasel;agreed 417860;1386809087;jurov;better psychopath than slanderous soul, i spose 417861;1386809087;kakobrekla;up to 4 you are better with more 417862;1386809090;kakobrekla;then bigger counts 417863;1386809092;kakobrekla;same as with cores 417864;1386809094;mircea_popescu;hahahah 417865;1386809102;Vexual;flee 417866;1386809114;assbot;Last 9 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1500958/plain/) 417867;1386809114;pankkake;!b 9 417868;1386809116;mircea_popescu;i believe 36 is a sufficient number of captcha. 417869;1386809118;kakobrekla;jurov its not like one has a choise 417870;1386809153;pankkake;!b should accept an offset arg 417871;1386809177;kakobrekla;just make a comment before like this: first 10 417872;1386809178;assbot;Last 20 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1500959/plain/) 417873;1386809178;kakobrekla;!b 20 417874;1386809178;jurov;no it should autobash triggered on boobs 417875;1386809179;mircea_popescu;!b should actually increase one's boobs. 417876;1386809199;truffles;more than handful is too much pankkake 417877;1386809218;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.05 = 0.55 BTC 417878;1386809220;pankkake;tried to use !b cause I don't think web submit works 417879;1386809226;mircea_popescu;waht ?! 417880;1386809227;pankkake;or I only submit unfunny stuff :cry: 417881;1386809232;mircea_popescu;i used web submit a coupla times 417882;1386809238;mircea_popescu;did it go to bitbucket ?! 417883;1386809278;kakobrekla;web submit should work 417884;1386809282;kakobrekla;why not 417885;1386809283;kakobrekla;lets test 417886;1386809303;kakobrekla;works 417887;1386809314;pankkake;so the "havelock has become the slut of exchanges" was deemed not funny? 417888;1386809324;pankkake;(it's the only one I have in my form history) 417889;1386809340;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 410 @ 0.0029679 = 1.2168 BTC [+] {13} 417890;1386809417;kakobrekla;i see theres about 10 pending ones 417891;1386809421;kakobrekla;and one matches 'slut' 417892;1386809427;kakobrekla;ill get to it soon 417893;1386809433;kakobrekla;very fuckin busy 417894;1386809435;pankkake;oh, ok 417895;1386809455;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla you should hire a sloven girl to do the moderation there 417896;1386809458;mircea_popescu;and your forum pr-ing 417897;1386809459;kakobrekla;if someone wants to help mod this , be my guest 417898;1386809459;Vexual;thats what my sommilier said, 417899;1386809470;mircea_popescu;it's sommelier 417900;1386809476;nubbins`;"put a cork in it"? 417901;1386809477;Vexual;he said that too 417902;1386809523;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 49 @ 0.05 = 2.45 BTC 417903;1386809581;Vexual;i said if you dont want two eyes, keep serving me last 417904;1386809585;kakobrekla;mircea_popescu, this bash is too specific, a girl would need years of training to chew through it 417905;1386809685;kakobrekla;its like a small irc community inside small assets community inside small btc community 417906;1386809688;kakobrekla;noone gets it. 417907;1386809726;truffles;unfunny is still unfunny .. 417908;1386809748;kakobrekla;hm? 417909;1386809753;mircea_popescu;women are here to be tortured. 417910;1386809755;mircea_popescu;torture them. 417911;1386809772;pankkake;truffles: but the funniness of a joke often depends on its obscurity 417912;1386809797;pankkake;the less people can get it, the more funny it is 417913;1386809802;mircea_popescu;if we stoped to consider what people consider funny there'd be no humor at all. 417914;1386809809;pankkake;I think there's even a xkcd on this 417915;1386809846;kakobrekla;xkcd is not funny anymore, too mainstream! 417916;1386809881;pankkake;I was reading xkcd before it was popular 417917;1386809886;truffles;nerd humor sure 417918;1386809902;pankkake;no really. jokes between a few friends only you can get 417919;1386809917;kakobrekla;yeah well i left britney alone before you! 417920;1386809919;mircea_popescu;all humor is nerd humor. just different types of nerds. 417921;1386809931;truffles;o.0 417922;1386809935;deadweasel;when our brains are implanted into the machine, these will be archeological sites. 417923;1386809989;kanzure;git commit jokes from xkcd are too mainstream? 417924;1386810011;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] [PAID] 18.78434400 BTC to 13`920 shares, 134945 satoshi per share 417925;1386810020;kanzure;what do you want, panes complaining about blockchain sizes? 417926;1386810024;pankkake;git is very mainstream 417927;1386810028;pankkake;I mean, fucking github 417928;1386810037;kanzure;2 blockchainz gonna rap it up with snoop 417929;1386810117;mircea_popescu;github wow. 417930;1386810140;pankkake;so much commits 417931;1386810167;kakobrekla;// 417932;1386810187;pankkake;much stars 417933;1386810198;pankkake;very social 417934;1386810216;kakobrekla;dexX7 hows the bleeding on your screens 417935;1386810255;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] [PAID] 4.31491714 BTC to 336`577 shares, 1282 satoshi per share 417936;1386810316;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.05 = 0.45 BTC 417937;1386810408;dexX7;nothing notable 417938;1386810438;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 500 @ 0.00257019 = 1.2851 BTC [-] {15} 417939;1386810439;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.14704999 BTC [+] 417940;1386810665;truffles;i read that as Lorenzo "no" money ofc 417941;1386810682;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00267941 = 0.134 BTC [+] {6} 417942;1386810866;jurov;https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=DOGE now they are in it, too 417943;1386810905;Vexual;got me 417944;1386810923;jurov;haha 417945;1386810926;jurov;goodnight 417946;1386811058;thestringpuller;haha you got me too 417947;1386811170;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 89 @ 0.00299999 = 0.267 BTC [-] 417948;1386811231;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 92 @ 0.00299966 = 0.276 BTC [-] {2} 417949;1386811353;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 48 @ 0.00299999 = 0.144 BTC [+] 417950;1386811720;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2989 BTC [+] 417951;1386812025;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2989 BTC [+] 417952;1386812209;Vexual;doges kill bitcointalk? 417953;1386812237;jcpham;much doge 417954;1386812368;Vexual;such tricky 417955;1386812395;nubbins`;not premine, so scrypt 417956;1386812468;mircea_popescu;http://dpaste.com/1500997/ << check out mad javascript skills 417957;1386812468;ozbot;dpaste: #1500997 417958;1386812476;mircea_popescu;var oldonload = window.onload; 417959;1386812494;mircea_popescu;window.onload = (typeof window.onload != 'function') ? loadChartbeat : function() { oldonload(); loadChartbeat(); }; 417960;1386812544;Vexual;whodat 417961;1386812570;mircea_popescu;some kid. 417962;1386812589;nubbins`;that's some interesting code 417963;1386812614;mircea_popescu;it looks like it was written by someone with such competence very security. 417964;1386812618;mircea_popescu;much trust! 417965;1386812636;nubbins`;many key, so invest 417966;1386812649;mircea_popescu;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Th0G8rkhBqg << the original doge, btw, was bogart. 417967;1386812649;ozbot;Casablanca - What watch? [CC] - YouTube 417968;1386812783;pankkake;what goes in the mind of people who promote a serive before it opens 417969;1386812799;nubbins`;"i'm helping"? 417970;1386812799;truffles;buzz 417971;1386812819;nubbins`;"lel omg"? 417972;1386812820;pankkake;you get buzz and people don't come back because there was nothing 417973;1386812846;truffles;build up 417974;1386812853;Apocalyptic;be sure to sell pre-orders 417975;1386812865;mircea_popescu;it's like truffles is a repository of all the wrong notions. 417976;1386812910;truffles;eh? 417977;1386812941;mircea_popescu;what buzz lol 417978;1386812951;thestringpuller;;;google buzz buzz 417979;1386812951;gribble;Buzz Buzz - EarthBound Wiki - This wiki stinks!: ; Laurie Berkner - Bumblebee (Buzz Buzz) - YouTube: ; Amazon.com: Buzz Buzz: Music: 417980;1386813000;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.299 BTC [+] 417981;1386813061;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 50 @ 0.0028 = 0.14 BTC [+] 417982;1386813343;Vexual;the australian government underestimated the cost involved with burying fibre optic net to every house on the continent 417983;1386813408;Vexual;many wiretap, still fail 417984;1386813427;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.29 = 1.45 BTC [-] 417985;1386813488;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.28868002 = 1.4434 BTC [-] {2} 417986;1386813540;pankkake;http://i.imgur.com/58acA0m.png looks like Idiocracy even predicted inflation 417987;1386813586;Vexual;i imagine that prez is dead already 417988;1386813681;benkay;;;ticker --market btcavg 417989;1386813682;gribble;BitcoinAverage BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 892.77, Best ask: 899.02, Bid-ask spread: 6.25000, Last trade: 896.55, 24 hour volume: 90735.97, 24 hour low: None, 24 hour high: None, 24 hour vwap: 910.96 417990;1386814073;Vexual;3x all the bitcoins so australia can get faster pron 417991;1386814237;Vexual;if i paid tax id be really cross 417992;1386814313;truffles;music links plz 417993;1386814424;kakobrekla;o lol 417994;1386814442;kakobrekla;wrote to someone earlier to do more reading and less question asking 417995;1386814446;kakobrekla;got email reply now 417996;1386814447;kakobrekla;http://shrani.si/f/l/Dl/2mFbDarR/unnamed.jpg 417997;1386814458;kakobrekla;too bad it isnt a spider 417998;1386814478;Vexual;they need less bandwidth 417999;1386815155;thestringpuller;;;bait 418000;1386815156;gribble;Error: "bait" is not a valid command. 418001;1386815161;thestringpuller;boo 418002;1386815165;thestringpuller;;;echo .bait 418003;1386815165;gribble;.bait 418004;1386815166;ozbot;http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0abxk6VUL1r440j0o1_1280.jpg 418005;1386815209;thestringpuller;;;echo .bait 418006;1386815209;gribble;.bait 418007;1386815211;ozbot;http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m19lfh2c6r1r6detlo1_400.jpg 418008;1386815211;pankkake;that's a good lenght of shirt 418009;1386815223;pankkake;.bait 418010;1386815224;thestringpuller;;;echo .bait 418011;1386815225;ozbot;http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0t4xhCsxS1r6i8czo1_500.jpg 418012;1386815226;gribble;.bait 418013;1386815227;thestringpuller;the porn lottery 418014;1386815241;thestringpuller;there we go 418015;1386815246;Vexual;u only get one ticket and pankakke won 418016;1386815266;pankkake;not sure 418017;1386815295;Vexual;no swapsies 418018;1386815552;truffles;pankkake any new blog posts? 418019;1386815603;thestringpuller;;;echo .bait 418020;1386815603;gribble;.bait 418021;1386815604;nubbins`;3d printed sausage casings 418022;1386815604;truffles;forgot the addy 418023;1386815604;ozbot;http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0mzamw5Zn1r6ogo4o1_500.jpg 418024;1386815613;pankkake;no 418025;1386815638;pankkake;oh I like that bait 418026;1386815641;mircea_popescu;https://bitcointalk.org/ 418027;1386815658;Vexual;fuck pankakke, ill take that if you prefer the first 418028;1386815683;mircea_popescu;the butt in water one is by far the better. 418029;1386815687;Vexual;oh it was dickstrinbg 418030;1386815779;truffles;the blue thing on bottom right is troubling 418031;1386815784;Vexual;still down here mp 418032;1386815838;KRS1;wow she even look good in black and white 418033;1386815855;Vexual;who is it? 418034;1386815882;pankkake;vikki blows according to google images 418035;1386815902;Vexual;ill bet she does 418036;1386815939;pankkake;yeah, I dig the name. http://genesismedya.com/upload/resimler/galeri/z145f45f4d5fgd478gd7fg8df78678gds.jpg 418037;1386816018;truffles;both seem heavy on the face paint 418038;1386816113;pankkake;I'll make that makeup run down her face 418039;1386816150;Vexual;i dont think shell be jogging anywhere in those shoes mate 418040;1386816266;asciilifeform;phun phact: finally got in the mail: set of vacuum lifter tips. made of high-temp rubber by: Buna! (only ever heard that name in the context of Auschwitz III. had no idea the brand still existed!) 418041;1386816373;Vexual;whata a vacuum lifter tip? robot sonic? 418042;1386816404;asciilifeform;it's a kind of hand tool: https://vimeo.com/81028241 418043;1386816469;Vexual;is nsa building a production facility? 418044;1386816486;asciilifeform;a proper factory has robotic equivalent 418045;1386816515;asciilifeform;it's how 'surface-mount' parts get on the boards. 418046;1386816533;Vexual;i was gonna say your pics looked artisan applied 418047;1386816545;asciilifeform;photo/film is of the one in my kitchen... 418048;1386816580;asciilifeform;cheapo. 418049;1386816608;asciilifeform;the kind with squeeze bulb, you can get for a few $. 418050;1386816652;asciilifeform;but if you must align under a microscope, you need a platform. 418051;1386816711;Vexual;your smrs are neat 418052;1386816777;asciilifeform;if y're utterly broke you can use tweezers. but it's a pain. 418053;1386816870;Vexual;id trust some chinese lady with four kids to make 30/hr over a robot 418054;1386816895;asciilifeform;they use those for 'through-hole' components. 418055;1386816957;Vexual;one of her kids can do that at the same rate 418056;1386817065;Vexual;what are you building next? 418057;1386817136;asciilifeform;let that be a surprise. 418058;1386817148;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.09 = 0.27 BTC [-] 418059;1386817153;asciilifeform;who doesn't like surprises 418060;1386817159;Vexual;im intrigued 418061;1386817190;asciilifeform;mp can drop hints if he feels like it. 418062;1386817202;mircea_popescu;i'd rather drop mints 418063;1386817206;asciilifeform;haha 418064;1386817210;pankkake;http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-12-11/fidelity-now-allowing-bitcoins-iras 418065;1386817212;ozbot;Fidelity Now Allowing Bitcoins In IRAs | Zero Hedge 418066;1386817216;BingoBoingo;pankkake: Namecoin's blockchain would be better, but the miners rejected my DVD iso images 418067;1386817270;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.05 = 0.3 BTC 418068;1386817479;mircea_popescu;"This whole fucking thing has been embraced way to quickly and smoothly by TPTB for there to be a coincidence, folks." 418069;1386817481;mircea_popescu;lol. 418070;1386817540;asciilifeform;in the '90s, 'sci.crypt' was full of kids who swore they broke rsa. where are the kids swearing they broke ecdsa? 418071;1386817561;asciilifeform;(and will start emptying coldwallets 'any day now' naturally) 418072;1386817575;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.28388885 = 1.1356 BTC [-] {2} 418073;1386817582;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform i was kinda lolling at pankkake's link. 418074;1386817624;asciilifeform;well yeah, 'TPTB know something we don't' implication 418075;1386817633;mircea_popescu;the random idiot with delusions of knowledge populating the various social media outlets has switched from "tptb will kill bitcoin", a la goldbug's bs 418076;1386817640;mircea_popescu;to "tptp embraced btc too quickly". 418077;1386817658;pankkake;I always find it weird that people believe $randomgovagency must have some super hidden tech 418078;1386817660;mircea_popescu;this change has been much too rapid and smooth to leave any room for hope said rats are actually equipped with brains too 418079;1386817686;mircea_popescu;pankkake it's like the ingrained belief of cuckolded husbands that their mistress has a really sexy cunt. 418080;1386817694;asciilifeform;the 'it's a trap!' hypothesis is alluring and can never really be disproven. 418081;1386817702;mircea_popescu;she doesn't, but if they didn't believe that they couldn't put up with their life. 418082;1386817737;pankkake;the NSA is probably as efficient as the post office 418083;1386817751;mircea_popescu;give or take, yes. 418084;1386817764;asciilifeform;the mythical Meta-NSA on the other hand! 418085;1386817776;thestringpuller;asciilifeform works fo the NSA 418086;1386817779;Vexual;i can solve the drugery of 9002 and ip protection in and hour a day 418087;1386817781;thestringpuller;BERRY PUNNY 418088;1386817796;pankkake;I'll believe it when I'll see it 418089;1386817805;pankkake;no preorders I hope! 418090;1386817805;asciilifeform;phnu phact: i applied to work at the classic nsa once 418091;1386817819;Vexual;youre not allowed to say that if you dis 418092;1386817822;thestringpuller;phnu is not unix!!!! 418093;1386817823;asciilifeform;to nobody's particular surprise, they didn't answer 418094;1386817851;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform they can't take walk-ins. it'd make the chinese's job too easy 418095;1386817857;Vexual;lol 418096;1386817862;Vexual;thought-crime 418097;1386817864;asciilifeform;righto. blue blood only. 418098;1386817899;pankkake;wanted to pull a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrOZllbNarw? 418099;1386817923;thestringpuller;http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_llaxltGOeC1qizvnso1_500.gif 418100;1386817927;mircea_popescu;some days i wish more smart people were involved in bitcoin. 418101;1386817943;mircea_popescu;some other days i just wish fewer idiots cluttered about under the delusion they're involved in bitcoin 418102;1386817953;thestringpuller;isn't that the same thing? 418103;1386817959;mircea_popescu;and then there's the days like today, when i no longer comprehend what the distinction between those two wishes is 418104;1386817964;KRS1;nothing but great news on cryptographic coin lately.. 418105;1386817964;mircea_popescu;right. 418106;1386817965;thestringpuller;:D 418107;1386817975;Vexual;im one of millions but i want the govt 418108;1386818030;thestringpuller;"Socrates appears to have been a critic of democracy,[16] and some scholars interpret his trial as an expression of political infighting" 418109;1386818041;thestringpuller;democracy is bad mmmkay 418110;1386818045;thestringpuller;you niggas don't deserve a vote 418111;1386818050;nubbins`;democrates 418112;1386818073;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4tmy2KGIEs 418113;1386818074;ozbot;Bob Marley 'Silly Hypocrities' - YouTube 418114;1386818161;nubbins`;http://it.slashdot.org/story/13/12/11/1919201/freebsd-developers-will-not-trust-chip-based-encryption 418115;1386818162;ozbot;FreeBSD Developers Will Not Trust Chip-Based Encryption - Slashdot 418116;1386818196;mircea_popescu;<pankkake> wanted to pull a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrOZllbNarw great link. 418117;1386818304;Vexual;my german ip gave me a robin thicke samsung ad when i clicked mps repost 418118;1386818466;Vexual;nsa are just analysts? 418119;1386818521;javanomad;;;seen unbalanced 418120;1386818522;gribble;unbalanced was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 days, 0 hours, 40 minutes, and 40 seconds ago: (wish I'd hit enter a half-second sooner) 418121;1386818615;thestringpuller;mircea_popescu: you've never seen good will hunting? 418122;1386818635;Vexual;ever seen perdita durango? 418123;1386818809;thestringpuller;mircea_popescu: it's not your fault 418124;1386818814;thestringpuller;no no no no no 418125;1386818817;thestringpuller;It's not your fault 418126;1386818822;thestringpuller;IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT 418127;1386819110;nubbins`;http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/nelson-mandela-ceremony-sign-language-interpreter-a-fake-1.2459469 418128;1386819110;ozbot;Nelson Mandela ceremony sign language interpreter a 'fake' - World - CBC News 418129;1386819210;pankkake;wow, that's… deafist! 418130;1386819240;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy04c-6DEgE 418131;1386819240;ozbot;Pink Floyd - Money - YouTube 418132;1386819271;nubbins`;Pink Floyd - Bitcoin 418133;1386819279;Vexual;poor fucker probably is deaf 418134;1386819323;Vexual;harder to make a coin if your deaf than blind 418135;1386819338;nubbins`;one of my roommates has no sense of smell 418136;1386819379;nubbins`;you can fart around him as much as you want 418137;1386819385;Vexual;lol 418138;1386819399;Vexual;mp cant tell green from red 418139;1386819404;nubbins`;altho when he does it, it's the perfect offensive weapon 418140;1386819421;Vexual;use it to your advantage 418141;1386819441;nubbins`;send him into crowded areas with a belly full of chili 418142;1386819490;Vexual;eek 418143;1386819521;mircea_popescu;thestringpuller hm ? 418144;1386819577;mircea_popescu;;;bcstats 418145;1386819580;gribble;Current Blocks: 274431 | Current Difficulty: 9.08350862437022E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 276191 | Next Difficulty In: 1760 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 11 hours, 25 minutes, and 42 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 1035260190.9 | Estimated Percent Change: 13.9714 418146;1386819592;thestringpuller;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtkST5-ZFHw 418147;1386819595;mircea_popescu;check it out, basically this is goinna happen on xmas eve 418148;1386819609;thestringpuller;;;estimate 418149;1386819609;gribble;Next difficulty estimate | 1035260190.9 based on data since last change | 894132728.373 based on data for last three days 418150;1386819619;thestringpuller;;;nethash 418151;1386819619;gribble;6400549.04237 418152;1386820137;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 86 @ 0.0029 = 0.2494 BTC [+] 418153;1386820504;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 22 @ 0.05 = 1.1 BTC 418154;1386820808;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.29 = 0.58 BTC [+] 418155;1386820813;thestringpuller;;;nethash 418156;1386820813;gribble;6400549.04237 418157;1386821267;thestringpuller;Jules: [while cleaning the bloodied car] Oh man, I will never forgive your ass for this shit. This is some fucked up repugnant shit. 418158;1386821270;thestringpuller;Vincent: Jules, did you ever hear the philosophy that once a man admits that he is wrong, that he is immediately forgiven for all wrongdoings? Have you ever heard that? 418159;1386821273;thestringpuller;Jules: Get the fuck outta my face with that shit. The motherfucker who said that shit never had to pick up itty bitty pieces of skull on the account of your dumb ass. 418160;1386821276;thestringpuller;Vincent: I got a threshold, Jules, I got a threshold for the abuse that I will take. And right now I.m a fucking race-car, alright, and you got me in the red. And I.m just saying, I.m just saying that it.s fucking dangerous to have a race-car in the fucking red, that.s all. I could blow. 418161;1386821281;thestringpuller;Jules: Oh, oh, you ready to blow? 418162;1386821283;thestringpuller;Vincent: Yeah, I.m ready to blow. 418163;1386821286;thestringpuller;Jules: Well I.m a mushroom cloud layin. motherfucker, motherfucker. Every time my fingers touch brain, I.m "Superfly TNT". I.m "The Guns of the Navarone". In fact, what the fuck am I doing in the back? You the motherfucker should be on brain detail. We.re fucking switching. I.m washing the windows, and you picking up this nigga's skull. 418164;1386821540;mod6;haha 418165;1386821663;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.02674999 = 0.1337 BTC [-] 418166;1386821721;pankkake;nice sum 418167;1386821723;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 4 @ 0.02674999 = 0.107 BTC [-] 418168;1386821966;Vexual;what does hmf do? 418169;1386821967;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 315 @ 0.0029 = 0.9135 BTC [+] 418170;1386821985;Vexual;who runs havelock? 418171;1386822028;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 300 @ 0.00295 = 0.885 BTC [+] 418172;1386822054;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1hCsOW129s 418173;1386822055;ozbot;"How Low" H.M.S & The R.B.C - YouTube 418174;1386822103;thestringpuller;topace 418175;1386822113;thestringpuller;topace the canadian goose 418176;1386822394;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.2851 = 1.4255 BTC [-] 418177;1386822882;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.05 = 0.15 BTC 418178;1386823072;nubbins`;http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/12/pawncoin/ 418179;1386823072;ozbot;Need Cash, But Don't Want to Lose Your Bitcoins? Pawn Them | Wired Enterprise | Wired.com 418180;1386823117;KRS1;hah 418181;1386823126;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.285 = 0.855 BTC [-] 418182;1386823188;thestringpuller;pankkake: a rien peux arrete-moi ? 418183;1386823199;pankkake;does not compute 418184;1386823675;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14290 @ 0.00088925 = 12.7074 BTC [-] {2} 418185;1386823736;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 554 @ 0.00088715 = 0.4915 BTC [-] 418186;1386824027;pankkake;looks like secret sell wall is working 418187;1386824210;jborkl;Secret Santa sucks 418188;1386824379;Vexual;non secret santa exists? 418189;1386825261;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.29495036 = 1.4748 BTC [+] {3} 418190;1386825263;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 294 @ 0.003 = 0.882 BTC [+] 418191;1386825339;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tXSdYIgAAo 418192;1386825339;ozbot;Afroman - Keep It Movin - YouTube 418193;1386825566;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 91 @ 0.0032 = 0.2912 BTC [+] 418194;1386825721;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHVH0UEbEQg 418195;1386825722;ozbot;Fucking David Mitchell's Soapbox, says Hitler - YouTube 418196;1386825908;dub;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bm8GHCQyMRU 418197;1386825908;ozbot;Nimbin Joint Rolling Contest-Australia - YouTube 418198;1386825926;Vexual;now thats what i call comic timing 418199;1386825933;dub;which one is Vexual? 418200;1386825955;Vexual;u dud 418201;1386825984;Vexual;50 years to a microsecond 418202;1386826026;Vexual;whats going on? theres a midget 418203;1386826072;Vexual;theres no punchline is there? 418204;1386826176;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 85 @ 0.00345 = 0.2933 BTC [+] 418205;1386826201;Vexual;i won 12 minutes ago 418206;1386826281;Vexual;stand up[ if youre done. lol 418207;1386826289;Vexual;#http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Phc6_raUBvk 418208;1386826359;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 196 @ 0.0035 = 0.686 BTC [+] 418209;1386826390;Vexual;its classy coz projectors nubbins 418210;1386826669;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GecUBSccqqg 418211;1386826669;ozbot;Katy Perry sings Niggas in Paris (Cover) Live Lounge - YouTube 418212;1386826903;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8u7MNG-ug8 418213;1386826903;ozbot;Goldie - Innercity Life - YouTube 418214;1386827101;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmlVCQ_WDHQ 418215;1386827101;ozbot;Killing Zoe - "If it wasn't for my country..." - YouTube 418216;1386827153;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17745 @ 0.00088715 = 15.7425 BTC [-] 418217;1386827234;Vexual;its always about a girl, even when its sbout the money 418218;1386827396;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.14799999 BTC [+] 418219;1386827457;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.14799999 BTC [+] 418220;1386827519;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.14799999 BTC [+] 418221;1386827553;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PhkjsmfYa8 418222;1386827554;ozbot;Nuthin But Time!..... H.M.S , RBC , 2 Kingz - YouTube 418223;1386827640;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.05 = 1 BTC 418224;1386827850;Vexual;hey dj 418225;1386827899;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcsEop0NPGM 418226;1386827899;ozbot;ODB- Brooklyn Zoo Video - YouTube 418227;1386828103;Vexual;;;ticker --market btchigh 418228;1386828103;gribble;Error: This is not one of the supported markets. Please choose one of ['btcde', 'mtgox', 'bfx', 'btcn', 'coinbase', 'cbx', 'btsp', 'btce', 'btcavg'] or 'all' 418229;1386828152;Vexual;;;ticker --market btcchina 418230;1386828154;gribble;BTCChina BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 873.824, Best ask: 873.84045, Bid-ask spread: 0.01645, Last trade: 873.824, 24 hour volume: 78928.72000000, 24 hour low: 863.7895, 24 hour high: 929.096, 24 hour vwap: 902.069256272 418231;1386828189;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 41 @ 0.00308998 = 0.1267 BTC [+] {2} 418232;1386828244;Vexual;;;gribble imaginevalue 418233;1386828244;gribble;yes I am gribble. why do you keep bothering me? 418234;1386828291;pankkake;;;ticker --market btcavg 418235;1386828291;gribble;BitcoinAverage BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 867.54, Best ask: 871.87, Bid-ask spread: 4.33000, Last trade: 870.74, 24 hour volume: 82668.28, 24 hour low: None, 24 hour high: None, 24 hour vwap: 895.28 418236;1386828302;pankkake;btcchina has a btcusd? 418237;1386828329;Vexual;no 418238;1386828337;Vexual;did i do it wrong? 418239;1386828366;Vexual;gribble dont yuan? 418240;1386828412;pankkake;perhaps it converts to USD, which is actually neat 418241;1386828543;Vexual;i still care more about ringgits, and i havent sold a pirate 1.44 for years 418242;1386828589;Vexual;we called them greendiscs 418243;1386828592;benkay`;;;ud ringit 418244;1386828592;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ringit | When a person licks their fingers and creates a ring below the lit end of a blunt to make it burn evenly. This stops the blunt from running. 418245;1386828593;ozbot;Urban Dictionary: ringit 418246;1386828604;Vexual;malaysian ringgit 418247;1386828610;benkay`;i know 418248;1386828624;Vexual;well fucking spell it right 418249;1386828643;benkay`;chill v 418250;1386828660;Vexual;do it, it's a bot 418251;1386828677;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 75 @ 0.00375 = 0.2813 BTC [-] 418252;1386828704;Vexual;thats pre internet kids 418253;1386828756;benkay`;http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-12-08/bitcoin-derivatives-market-has-arrived 418254;1386828758;ozbot;The Bitcoin Derivatives Market Has Arrived | Zero Hedge 418255;1386828862;Vexual;i cant see anything, what does it say? 418256;1386828893;Vexual;zerohedge sounds like an axleload of bullshit 418257;1386828982;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.09649982 = 0.193 BTC [+] {2} 418258;1386828983;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.15000001 BTC [+] 418259;1386829043;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 7 @ 0.04758706 = 0.3331 BTC [+] {4} 418260;1386829227;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.28702001 BTC [-] 418261;1386829234;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHHT7dTmw8U 418262;1386829234;ozbot;Busta Rhymes - Gimme Some More - YouTube 418263;1386829411;truffles;good times 418264;1386829513;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sggop35FAZk 418265;1386829514;ozbot;Lady Sovereign I Got You Dancing Young Live Remix - YouTube 418266;1386829539;Vexual;such dive 418267;1386829592;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.14860001 BTC [-] 418268;1386829595;Vexual;such is dife 418269;1386829653;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.14860001 BTC [-] 418270;1386829687;Vexual;suck blocjchain lezness 418271;1386829718;Vexual;dife 418272;1386829730;Vexual;dufe 418273;1386829733;Vexual;duke 418274;1386829737;Vexual;dyke 418275;1386829775;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.14880001 BTC [+] 418276;1386829782;truffles;die 418277;1386829837;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.14880001 BTC [+] 418278;1386829845;pankkake;;;estimate 418279;1386829846;gribble;Next difficulty estimate | 1052596732.1 based on data since last change | 894132728.373 based on data for last three days 418280;1386829851;pankkake;nooooooooo 418281;1386829898;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.14890001 BTC [+] 418282;1386829931;Vexual;in like tat? 418283;1386830066;truffles;19 days to go still 418284;1386830108;Vexual;;seen tat 418285;1386830125;truffles;;;seen TAT 418286;1386830125;gribble;I have not seen TAT. 418287;1386830131;Vexual;dickhead 418288;1386830134;pankkake;;;seen ThickAsThieves 418289;1386830134;gribble;ThickAsThieves was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 9 hours, 4 minutes, and 33 seconds ago: ;;estimate 418290;1386830141;pankkake;hehehe 418291;1386830144;Vexual;:) 418292;1386830168;truffles;he's still in room u know 418293;1386830188;Vexual;hes on the hotline to any journalist 418294;1386830266;Vexual;michelle phipper 418295;1386830385;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.14729999 = 0.2946 BTC [-] 418296;1386830446;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.14709999 = 0.5884 BTC [-] {2} 418297;1386830507;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.14669999 = 0.2934 BTC [-] 418298;1386830995;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8521 @ 0.0008871 = 7.559 BTC [-] {2} 418299;1386831056;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 35 @ 0.00299 = 0.1047 BTC [+] 418300;1386831117;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.28701002 = 1.7221 BTC [-] {3} 418301;1386831300;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 52 @ 0.00377 = 0.196 BTC [+] 418302;1386831361;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 75 @ 0.00389 = 0.2918 BTC [+] 418303;1386832032;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 82 @ 0.0039 = 0.3198 BTC [+] 418304;1386832107;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5xnc1p7BMk 418305;1386832107;ozbot;AC/DC - JailBreak - YouTube 418306;1386832179;truffles;i wish i can fly 418307;1386832374;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mt6RhEWMRFc 418308;1386832375;ozbot;AC/DC - Girls Got Rhythm (Official Video) - YouTube 418309;1386832460;truffles;such a good band 418310;1386832493;Vexual;never heard of em 418311;1386832510;truffles;ac dc! 418312;1386832827;Vexual;im gonna set fire to some shit. audi 418313;1386832910;pankkake;such good band* 418314;1386832917;pankkake;much guitars 418315;1386832929;pankkake;many electrity 418316;1386833679;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 21 @ 0.05 = 1.05 BTC 418317;1386833706;KRS1;such fun 418318;1386833732;KRS1;god now you convinced me to buy doge coin 418319;1386833738;KRS1;even you guys? 418320;1386833767;KRS1;everybody is talking like that 418321;1386833782;KRS1;I thought I was safe here 418322;1386833785;KRS1;=/ 418323;1386833801;pankkake;there seem to be many giveaways 418324;1386833836;KRS1;my god how much coin can this wale have almost 24 hours of dumping coins 418325;1386834044;Vexual;hmm a bonfire in daylight hours feels weird 418326;1386834056;Vexual;sometimes i wish i had friends 418327;1386834063;truffles;lol 418328;1386834071;truffles;only brings u grief in the end though 418329;1386834081;Vexual;or vice verse 418330;1386834106;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 6834 @ 0.00008412 = 0.5749 BTC [-] {13} 418331;1386834107;Vexual;i can mine all doge dont need friend 418332;1386834118;truffles;meh i dont think ppl know what the word means 418333;1386834207;Vexual;all i need is my hobo coins and a doge 418334;1386834397;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmHBDDHO0nI 418335;1386834409;Vexual;theese die faster than a guinea pig and kill anything 418336;1386834422;Vexual;also cute 418337;1386834467;truffles;dogs so much work 418338;1386834472;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 150 @ 0.00343666 = 0.5155 BTC [-] {2} 418339;1386834482;Vexual;kinda pretend from oldschool genses 418340;1386834508;fiat500;why are people still purchasing KCIM which atm now just amounts to distressed debt? 418341;1386834536;pankkake;they must see "1764.71% yield"!!! 418342;1386834546;fiat500;LOL yeah i saw that 418343;1386834551;Vexual;maybe 5th element 418344;1386834623;truffles;the 6th element was a good movie 418345;1386834628;truffles;or was it 5th 418346;1386834632;Vexual;7 is the key number here 418347;1386834650;pankkake;5th element 6th sense 418348;1386834662;Vexual;9 weeks? 418349;1386834674;Vexual;9.5 sorry 418350;1386834721;Vexual;who can name future scifi money? 418351;1386834729;Vexual;scifi future even 418352;1386834750;Vexual;there's chits in waterworld 418353;1386834756;truffles;when we watch movies, always comment on the low-techness of it 418354;1386834787;Vexual;fan cut of terminator with bitcoin? will it blend? 418355;1386834790;truffles;like timecop, floppy disks hehe 418356;1386834884;Vexual;how old was john conner in 09? 418357;1386834899;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 360 @ 0.00299867 = 1.0795 BTC [+] {3} 418358;1386834907;Vexual;sent back mp to be his dad 418359;1386834909;truffles;dunno but i enjoyed the tv show version and somehow i quit it 418360;1386834938;truffles;who cancels on terminator! 418361;1386834938;pankkake;you quit on summer glau? 418362;1386834948;Vexual;hair came out curly and had limo instead of shitty dirtbike 418363;1386834964;truffles;? 418364;1386835014;Vexual;whats summe glau? 418365;1386835032;pankkake;how can you not know 418366;1386835033;pankkake;heretic 418367;1386835053;Vexual;hexen? 418368;1386835063;pankkake;hehe 418369;1386835068;pankkake;such game 418370;1386835086;KRS1;this doggie talk is taking over the world. 418371;1386835101;KRS1;vexual you might be safe out there idk 418372;1386835115;KRS1;girls LOVE doge coin 418373;1386835123;KRS1;they gotta have the goin 418374;1386835129;KRS1;coin just because itsgcude 418375;1386835147;truffles;namecoin hows that doing? 418376;1386835160;truffles;cant go more generic than that 418377;1386835166;Vexual;u can still get a domain, but noone can see 418378;1386835281;pankkake;Vexual: http://pintaw.com/images/wallpapers/Summer-Glau-Wallpaper-1.jpg 418379;1386835291;Vexual;i remake hexen, and put hell dog everywhere where dogecoin is mine 418380;1386835301;Vexual;must shoot or die 418381;1386835325;Vexual;this game has better graphics i think 418382;1386835364;Vexual;is that her name? summer glue? 418383;1386835382;KRS1;this dump is i cant believable 418384;1386835409;pankkake;Vexual: :( 418385;1386835413;pankkake;what dump 418386;1386835424;pankkake;usually unbelievable dumps happen in my toilet 418387;1386835429;Vexual;did i jest to truly? 418388;1386835449;Vexual;what dump 418389;1386835459;Vexual;value email if you like 418390;1386835483;Vexual;spam alone is worth 50 billion 418391;1386835507;Vexual;but if the network WAS money 418392;1386835512;Vexual;oi 418393;1386835561;Vexual;internet + money = internet + money 418394;1386835596;truffles;does money define the person hmm 418395;1386835607;Vexual;nope 418396;1386835653;Vexual;thats why "rich" guys keep doing what theyre doing so your grand puppies can have some semblence of a life 418397;1386835664;truffles;lotta ppl in the btc world dont seem poor, at least not before maybe after :D 418398;1386835684;fiat500;all theoretical riches 418399;1386835690;Vexual;yeah 418400;1386835693;fiat500;well, sorry, much of it is theoretical 418401;1386835694;Vexual;but still 418402;1386835718;KRS|Gotchawallet;Ooooie...I can't believable..just like a leetle girl. 418403;1386835732;pankkake;I like your username fiat500 418404;1386835732;KRS|Gotchawallet;http://consumerist.com/2008/02/15/call-center-call-customer-little-girl-for-not-buying-computer/ 418405;1386835737;truffles;if they werent poor beforehand, id hope theyd try to expand the idea not get moar rich.. 418406;1386835777;Vexual;ask tat about real speakers 418407;1386835789;fiat500;thanks pankkake, your nick is also really neat 418408;1386835799;pankkake;you dirty pervert! 418409;1386835800;fiat500;sounds delicious... 418410;1386835801;fiat500;:P 418411;1386835824;KRS|Gotchawallet;yes, we all love pankkake 418412;1386835832;truffles;little pusssi girl hehe 418413;1386835917;KRS|Gotchawallet;hehe 418414;1386835948;truffles;little hoooker 418415;1386835998;Vexual;it all went wrong after he askes.."chu want the floppy?" 418416;1386836059;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.29814284 = 2.087 BTC [+] {3} 418417;1386836099;fiat500;i see the quality of discourse has taken a real hit here 418418;1386836132;truffles;improve it then 418419;1386836178;fiat500;in time my friend 418420;1386836190;Vexual;are you a new fiat or an old fiat 500? 418421;1386836214;Vexual;i like new ones better and hate myself for it 418422;1386836221;KRS|Gotchawallet;hold on to your undies little girls i guess we are going to wall street for moar leet trading 418423;1386836227;pankkake;are your tires inflated enough? 418424;1386836233;KRS|Gotchawallet;get out your fav. trading terminals 418425;1386836241;KRS|Gotchawallet;http://finance.yahoo.com/news/secondmarket-ceo-wall-street-put-203000747.html 418426;1386836243;ozbot;SecondMarket CEO: Wall Street Will Put 'Hundreds of Millions' Into Bitcoin - Yahoo Finance 418427;1386836257;KRS|Gotchawallet;looks like i'll need a new wallet 418428;1386836263;Vexual;i think pankakke knows i roll old shit 418429;1386836294;truffles;lots of loans are gonna be taken out ? 418430;1386836309;KRS|Gotchawallet;we're going to have to give moar leverage =D 418431;1386836314;KRS|Gotchawallet;oh this is gonna be fun 418432;1386836350;KRS|Gotchawallet;I got 10 mil on doge at .03 418433;1386836358;KRS|Gotchawallet;such profits 418434;1386836360;fiat500;wall street isn't a thing, this secondmarket crap is no different than the tradehill and coinlab VC jokes 418435;1386836388;fiat500;if i trade on NYSE does that automatically grant me "wall street" membership? 418436;1386836395;KRS|Gotchawallet;fiat500: everyone has access and money to buy now, instead of these jokes we call exchanges 418437;1386836397;fiat500;where is the line drawn, accredited investors? such bullshit 418438;1386836404;KRS|Gotchawallet;the supply will be bought up 418439;1386836425;pankkake;for a journalist, "finance stuff" = "wall street" 418440;1386836438;pankkake;that's like "country" = "capital", just a fancy word 418441;1386836442;KRS|Gotchawallet;would you rather a life with mtgox? 418442;1386836450;fiat500;many people in finance have been trading btc since the early days 418443;1386836482;KRS|Gotchawallet;this is opening up to new markets, nobody can buy virtual currency now only some people..now more can buy into it 418444;1386836530;truffles;i dont think its that easy to obtain btc.. 418445;1386836543;fiat500;in the US it has never been difficult 418446;1386836544;Vexual;true dat 418447;1386836547;fiat500;not sure about other places 418448;1386836565;KRS|Gotchawallet;fiat500 what are you serious> 418449;1386836566;truffles;ya but ppl will have to "research" 418450;1386836574;Vexual;its equally difficult to obtainbing dollars 418451;1386836582;fiat500;no there are firms that will deal offline with large investors 418452;1386836597;KRS|Gotchawallet;fiat500 you know what you're right 418453;1386836598;KRS|Gotchawallet;bbl 418454;1386836616;truffles;heh 418455;1386836636;Vexual;and if u wanna buy big in bejing u see puss 418456;1386836659;truffles;little pussi girl? 418457;1386836679;Vexual;da cat 418458;1386836729;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 54 @ 0.00300001 = 0.162 BTC [-] {2} 418459;1386836777;Vexual;who was that german guy who got rumbled for 2000 bc and his laptop when the meet moved to a deserted country lane? 418460;1386836789;fiat500;LOL 418461;1386836826;fiat500;if you're trying to hide your gains from the tax man, you're gonna have a bad time 418462;1386836830;Vexual;thats the only violent bc thing i remembers sans what fbi said about dpr 418463;1386836852;Vexual;ive never done anything illegal in my life 418464;1386836858;fiat500;not talking about you 418465;1386836863;Vexual;oh 418466;1386836878;fiat500;i just realized the difficulty in obtaining btc people mentioned here is because people are trying to do it on the DL with cash 418467;1386836910;truffles;its shocking to me that its not truly annoymous.. 418468;1386836912;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2155 @ 0.00286268 = 6.1691 BTC [-] {7} 418469;1386836929;Vexual;a btc trust is still legal in oz 418470;1386836966;Vexual;despite chinas double bluff 418471;1386837100;Vexual;and id guess a trust dont need a bank in china either 418472;1386837163;Vexual;whats the advantage of holding bc in trust i hear you ask 418473;1386837169;fiat500;hahahaha 418474;1386837172;fiat500;fine, tell me 418475;1386837182;Vexual;give me a new caper and i will 418476;1386837204;fiat500;http://i.imgur.com/ncbSi.jpg 418477;1386837224;Vexual;thats an aussie lizard 418478;1386837244;Vexual;are you a sydney stockbroker? 418479;1386837279;fiat500;never been to sydney 418480;1386837315;Vexual;i was selling this in sydney coke bars winnter '12 people thought i was retarded 418481;1386837330;fiat500;O_o 418482;1386837384;fiat500;the lizard or bitcoin? 418483;1386837454;Vexual;bc 418484;1386837533;Vexual;where are you from fiat? 418485;1386837565;fiat500;im from the internet 418486;1386837568;Vexual;italia? 418487;1386837572;fiat500;i wish 418488;1386837576;Vexual;lol 418489;1386837591;Vexual;think on it dude, i gotta go 418490;1386837599;Vexual;ciao 418491;1386837603;fiat500;think on what 418492;1386837604;fiat500;cya 418493;1386837607;fiat500;what a guy 418494;1386837626;truffles;im here :) 418495;1386837678;fiat500;was it you who wrote that article about asicminer being the next asicminer last summer? 418496;1386837689;truffles;lol no 418497;1386837695;fiat500;who was it 418498;1386837698;truffles;i havent written any articles 418499;1386837710;truffles;dunno 418500;1386837740;fiat500;well, "article" is pushing it 418501;1386837868;truffles;ever have a bunch of options and cant decide on one? 418502;1386837891;fiat500;all the time 418503;1386838030;truffles;how do u choose? 418504;1386838043;truffles;i liked Sheldon's magic 8ball method 418505;1386838047;fiat500;lol 418506;1386838053;fiat500;i dont always choose 418507;1386838063;fiat500;sometimes the choice is made for me, for whatever reason 418508;1386838078;truffles;mine arent srs ldo 418509;1386838089;fiat500;direct result of there being other people on this planet 418510;1386838090;truffles;but they could steer my path 418511;1386838108;fiat500;i say buy 418512;1386838139;truffles;sadly purchasing isnt usually my problem 418513;1386839901;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3 BTC [+] 418514;1386840633;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00088706 = 5.7659 BTC [-] 418515;1386841269;KRS|Gotchawallet;cant help but seeing all the good news lately..although i am not confident enough to put bitcoin in my IRA, some people might be crazy enough to do it..hey it could mean early retirement too 418516;1386841269;KRS|Gotchawallet;http://blogs.marketwatch.com/thetell/2013/12/11/fidelity-now-allows-clients-to-put-bitcoins-in-iras/? 418517;1386841270;ozbot;Fidelity now allows clients to put bitcoins in IRAs - The Tell - MarketWatch 418518;1386841853;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.3 = 0.6 BTC [+] 418519;1386842296;Vexual;my fire annoyed many naeighbours, caused a storm, and is currently cooking 3 kilo of chicken breasts mainly by smoke 418520;1386842356;Vexual;that timber was greener than i thought 418521;1386842366;fiat500;yes 418522;1386842427;Vexual;chicks like smoked chicken breast 418523;1386842443;Vexual;and storms 418524;1386842496;Vexual;i thought someone had taken a photo, because the lthunder took 6 seconds after the ightening 418525;1386842514;Vexual;i lovce the tropics 418526;1386842558;Vexual;i was alone and there were no weirdos in the bushes 418527;1386842633;Vexual;but shes rolling up slowly 418528;1386842707;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.3 = 1.8 BTC [+] {2} 418529;1386842842;Vexual;so all you paleo kids whi wont eat quiche, i make storms when i cook my meat. dig? 418530;1386843205;Vexual;rain you kinky bitch! i dont want lightnng i want wetess 418531;1386843263;Vexual;you dont want to see vex go johannesburg on god let me tell you 418532;1386843306;Vexual;who would i call for the ransom? 418533;1386843317;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.05 = 0.2 BTC 418534;1386843373;Vexual;im moving location, i could piss a better monsoon than this 418535;1386843415;KRS|Gotchawallet;vexual: hit me 418536;1386843418;KRS|Gotchawallet;its too quiet in here 418537;1386843422;Duffer1;move to american midwest, buy a trailor 418538;1386843462;Duffer1;come to tornado ally, experience the wrath of god first hand 418539;1386843472;Vexual;thats not monsoonal duffer, but i hear its nice up in the hills 418540;1386843480;Duffer1;:P 418541;1386843520;Vexual;fck bears 418542;1386843544;Vexual;give me tiger sharks and irukandji 418543;1386843610;Vexual;we get cyclones 418544;1386843629;Vexual;thats a tornado 50 miles wide 418545;1386843645;Vexual;my house is mainly glass 418546;1386843719;Vexual;im hauling ass inland and collecting insurance if one hits 418547;1386843797;Vexual;tornados dont do windspeeds like hurricanes or cyclones, you just build shit houses 418548;1386843863;Vexual;imagine strapping your house to the back of a truck and doing 300 down the highway 418549;1386843866;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5050 @ 0.00088944 = 4.4917 BTC [+] 418550;1386843889;Vexual;a tornado is a little updraft 418551;1386844148;Vexual;yo wallet breath 418552;1386844155;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYBDRKxKqnA 418553;1386844155;ozbot;Willie Nelson & Toots Hibbert - I'm A Worried Man - YouTube 418554;1386844279;KRS|Gotchawallet;now playing 418555;1386844323;Vexual;lifes tough and god wont listen 418556;1386844346;Vexual;i want rain! 418557;1386844410;Vexual;god wants more smoke 418558;1386844551;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jgtn5ENojY miles davis 418559;1386844551;ozbot;Damian Marley - Smoke Gets In My Eyes - YouTube 418560;1386844716;KRS|Gotchawallet;Sexual: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUqXWWb_ifA 418561;1386844886;Vexual;fuck boy, where are you from? 418562;1386844905;Vexual;im doing a rain dance here 418563;1386844979;Vexual;if you wanna get country, come to oz 418564;1386845015;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUQzE7ff8pQ 418565;1386845016;ozbot;Paul Kelly - I've done all the dumb things - YouTube 418566;1386845156;Vexual;put that on your android head unit 418567;1386845201;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3Igxon-AS4 418568;1386845201;ozbot;The Waifs - SunDirtWater - YouTube 418569;1386845513;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.05 = 0.6 BTC 418570;1386845545;sbp;http://blog.coinbase.com/post/69775463031 418571;1386845546;ozbot;Coinbase Raises $25 Million From Andreessen Horowitz - The Coinbase Blog 418572;1386845592;Vexual;whats the money for? 418573;1386845653;KRS|Gotchawallet;Lunch. 418574;1386845667;KRS|Gotchawallet;MOAR Chickun 418575;1386845667;truffles;sundirtwater very nice 418576;1386845674;KRS|Gotchawallet;Litecoin is suppost to pop to $100 or so 418577;1386845680;KRS|Gotchawallet;supposed 418578;1386845681;Vexual;yeah tuff ozzie 418579;1386845735;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHNfWEkrL9I 418580;1386845735;ozbot;Cold Chisel - Best Of Cold Chisel - Khe Sanh - YouTube 418581;1386845750;KRS|Gotchawallet;this paul kelly joint is allright 418582;1386845753;KRS|Gotchawallet;i like it 418583;1386845754;Vexual;*truff 418584;1386845941;truffles;no to chisel 418585;1386845954;Vexual;they yore an idiot 418586;1386845962;truffles;... 418587;1386846046;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2by810nulE absorb your culture boy 418588;1386846047;ozbot;Cold Chisel- Bow River - YouTube 418589;1386846119;truffles;nice intro 418590;1386846138;Vexual;vb is excellent too 418591;1386846145;Vexual;it wins medals 418592;1386846163;Vexual;u think bogans dont know about music and beer? 418593;1386846201;truffles;prefer the non-live versions 418594;1386846207;Vexual;its a 5 start bitter in holland 418595;1386846336;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmtlqB0x59Y 418596;1386846336;ozbot;Traveling Wilburys End Of The Line - YouTube 418597;1386846340;KRS1;damn power cut off 418598;1386846365;Vexual;your private school girlfriend's dad has this on the record player instead, its the same shit 418599;1386846383;KRS1;hmm 418600;1386846386;jurov;http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2522292/Prince-Georges-Christmas-sees-Prince-Harry-dressed-Santa-Claus.html 418601;1386846386;ozbot;Prince George's first Christmas sees Prince Harry dressed as Santa Claus | Mail Online 418602;1386846403;jurov;^ thestringpuller: ome inspiration how to do the painting 418603;1386846442;KRS1;ppl are starting to say bitcoin is dead 418604;1386846468;jurov;nope, its undead 418605;1386846468;Vexual;yeah well the windsors have the travelling wilburys on lp, so i wouldnt worry yet 418606;1386846557;Vexual;smokin afghans is cool with the queen 418607;1386846608;KRS1;i thinkk the big sales of coin on the markets got everyone figuring that if the price goes down to pennies wtf is the point 418608;1386846635;Vexual;how much sold this wek? 418609;1386846649;KRS1;idk i dont have figures of all the markets 418610;1386846657;KRS1;maybe bitcoincharts does 418611;1386846670;BingoBoingo;KRS1: If Litecoin breaks $100 it will probably happen as a side effect of BTC Breaking $5000-$10,000 418612;1386846680;Vexual;not a pinch of shit dropped into a pond if you were looking for ripples on the edge 418613;1386846704;Vexual;people here make coin on volatility 418614;1386846710;truffles;that one prince is aging badly 418615;1386846715;truffles;way too skiny 418616;1386846718;KRS1;these big sales are making people edgy 418617;1386846718;truffles;n 418618;1386846733;Vexual;the one with helicopters with 100mm chain guns? 418619;1386846759;KRS1;BingoBoingo: Litecoins are breaking into new markets- forex and metal traders are now looking at it 418620;1386847060;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPEhyxRSvYE 418621;1386847061;ozbot;Super Heavy Miracle Worker Official Music Video HD - YouTube 418622;1386847253;truffles;dont like this mix, female should be solo.. 418623;1386847353;Vexual;yeah aunty liz like teh stones 418624;1386847370;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4UJLHFkWZ8 418625;1386847370;ozbot;Yes Sir Boss ft Joss Stone - Come Together - YouTube 418626;1386847373;Vexual;its rain 418627;1386847383;KRS1;i cant listen to all these songs so quick 418628;1386847410;Vexual;hit the last one coot 418629;1386847415;truffles;u can if u dont like em all 418630;1386847512;truffles;son of a preacher man shouldve been goto! 418631;1386847549;truffles;wait thats not her original song 418632;1386847553;Vexual;joss smoked more marijuana from age 14-18 than nubbins has ever smoked 418633;1386847600;Vexual;she broke song school 418634;1386847660;Vexual;cue it up truff 418635;1386847671;truffles;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcpEte4plbw 418636;1386847671;ozbot;Joss Stone - Right To Be Wrong - YouTube 418637;1386847707;KRS1;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axb2sHpGwHQ 418638;1386847707;ozbot;The Beatles - Come Together - YouTube 418639;1386847915;Vexual;i love joss 418640;1386847928;Vexual;beetles huh 418641;1386847943;Vexual;not in germany friend 418642;1386847970;Vexual;its about the moiney 418643;1386848009;Vexual;chinese imitation works 418644;1386848024;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3C7DECI0jU 418645;1386848024;ozbot;Oasis - Champagne Supernova - YouTube 418646;1386848072;Vexual;you know the kraken will eat us like squid rings truffle? 418647;1386848134;truffles;umk 418648;1386848197;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.05 = 1 BTC 418649;1386848253;Vexual;u carpaccio with every permutation of yolo kid? 418650;1386848310;truffles;sure 418651;1386848319;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.3039999 = 0.912 BTC [+] 418652;1386848367;KRS1;thats a great song dude 418653;1386848380;Vexual;krs sos your mom 418654;1386848406;truffles;great song indeed 418655;1386848414;Vexual;bwahahaa 418656;1386848462;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPxL5guYmWw 418657;1386848463;ozbot;Silverchair - Tomorrow - YouTube 418658;1386848510;Vexual;best seattle 418659;1386848527;truffles;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZduDvIBu3EU 418660;1386848528;ozbot;Damien Rice - Volcano - Official Video - YouTube 418661;1386848677;KRS1;that silverchair song is like one of my all time fav songs 418662;1386848690;KRS1;do you guys like Jerry Cantrell - My Song 418663;1386848691;Vexual;yeah quality rockers krs 418664;1386848720;Vexual;the singer has ass cancer that requires herb and smokes with politicians 418665;1386848758;Vexual;needa herb anyway 418666;1386848766;Vexual;some shit 418667;1386848776;KRS1;everyone could use some herb 418668;1386848780;truffles;silverchair makes me think of matchbox20 418669;1386848790;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejorQVy3m8E 418670;1386848790;ozbot;Midnight Oil - Beds Are Burning - YouTube 418671;1386848805;Vexual;this guy was out education and environment minister for a bit 418672;1386848817;Vexual;ah fuck no germany 418673;1386848937;KRS1;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=011M8LzW3yU 418674;1386848937;ozbot;Dancing Days-Stone Temple Pilots - YouTube 418675;1386848946;KRS1;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=011M8LzW3yU 418676;1386848946;ozbot;Dancing Days-Stone Temple Pilots - YouTube 418677;1386849030;truffles;my song very nice 418678;1386849046;KRS1; first 10 people to PM me will get 1 Bitcoin 418679;1386849057;KRS1;go for it he's looking for love 418680;1386849070;truffles;aww 418681;1386849141;Vexual;have you got anyones wallet? 418682;1386849165;KRS|Gotyawallet;no i wouldnt do that 418683;1386849180;Vexual;did some freenode fuck steal your name? 418684;1386849214;Vexual;coz i registered vex when my teeth went rotten 418685;1386849228;Vexual;*were'nt 418686;1386849298;Vexual;go away for 6 months ond lose your shit 418687;1386849318;truffles;dont need 6 months to do tha 418688;1386849319;truffles;t 418689;1386849353;KRS|Gotyawallet;no..there's someone with the name krs and krs1 was confusing 418690;1386849364;KRS|Gotyawallet;krs was registered and i didnt know it 418691;1386849373;Vexual;3 months they getcha 418692;1386849374;truffles;its not a unique name uknow :D 418693;1386849383;KRS|Gotyawallet;this one is 418694;1386849395;Gotyawallet;I registered like 10 variants of this one 418695;1386849410;Gotyawallet;haha 418696;1386849429;Gotyawallet; but i dont have real money to buy 418697;1386849429;Gotyawallet; only a few thousand bitcoins 418698;1386849453;truffles;i only have about 3 of this 418699;1386849478;truffles;if it gets claimed, im sure i can think of somethink else 418700;1386849493;Gotyawallet;you've been truffles forever 418701;1386849508;rvex;who would want truffles 418702;1386849527;truffles;some random who knows 418703;1386849527;Gotyawallet;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdmDp8_l-3c 418704;1386849528;ozbot;Here Comes The Hotstepper With Lyrics - YouTube 418705;1386849619;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8lAiPeIB7s < works in europe 418706;1386849619;ozbot;Here Comes The Hotstepper Evian remix - YouTube 418707;1386849645;Gotyawallet;Hmm! I shall have to sample. 418708;1386849684;Vexual;you would 418709;1386849956;Vexual;are you at work kars1? 418710;1386850039;truffles;u didnt like "volcano"? 418711;1386850080;Gotyawallet;naw i dont work anymore..i just live off bitcoins 418712;1386850094;Gotyawallet;no bills really either 418713;1386850129;Gotyawallet;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdV-_FP079A 418714;1386850130;ozbot;Driicky Graham "Snapbacks & Tattoos" - YouTube 418715;1386850200;Gotyawallet;That f'n song goes HAM at 1:05 418716;1386850333;truffles;better end of ur rap links :D 418717;1386850353;truffles;take away that annoying female and it improves 418718;1386850426;Gotyawallet;i listen to everything 418719;1386850451;truffles;subpar things* 418720;1386850512;Gotyawallet;foggy and dreary sunrise on the atlantic east coast of south florida 418721;1386850543;truffles;eh eh eh eh? 418722;1386850570;Gotyawallet;haaha i love that part 418723;1386850586;truffles;i wish they edited that part out 418724;1386850594;truffles;is there a way to do so? 418725;1386850599;Gotyawallet;yep 418726;1386850612;Gotyawallet;i've done all kinds of things with audacity 418727;1386850616;truffles;i could clean up a bunch of songs 418728;1386850626;Gotyawallet;audacity ftw its ez 418729;1386850645;Gotyawallet;i made songs better, some longer and what not 418730;1386850663;truffles;cool 418731;1386850670;truffles;will look into this life changing tech 418732;1386850693;Gotyawallet;even gox's market sales data looks scammy..flatline at $885 is sticking out like a sore thumb..wtf. 418733;1386850772;truffles;i dont want to make instrumental though 418734;1386850779;truffles;just remove specific elements 418735;1386850859;mircea_popescu;o look, wences' wallet thing was acquired for 50mn. 418736;1386850986;Gotyawallet;Sexual: you may have an exchange now http://www.techinasia.com/australias-coinjar-455000-build-bitcoin-wallet-exchange/ 418737;1386850994;mircea_popescu;Confirmed total: 10,009 BTC << BitBet over 10k BTC bet. 418738;1386851122;pigeons;yay an exchange run by zhoutong, i know where this leads 418739;1386851185;pigeons;the chinese relic hunter is still out there with the real killer of OJ's wife 418740;1386851248;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.304 BTC [+] 418741;1386851280;mircea_popescu;pigeons it leads exactly nowhere. 418742;1386851341;pigeons;I don't think anyone competent would even have any desire to run a USD/AUD/UK/whatever government money <-> BTC exchange 418743;1386851386;mircea_popescu;depends how large they were. 418744;1386851416;Gotyawallet;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlCmQcRPtRg 418745;1386851416;ozbot;Damian Marley - Welcome To Jamrock - YouTube 418746;1386851419;mircea_popescu;if it's a case of "shut up or we're building our own nuclear subs" then maybe. 418747;1386851735;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 9 @ 0.02674999 = 0.2407 BTC [-] {2} 418748;1386851812;mircea_popescu;http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/12/11/how-googles-autocomplete-feature-allegedly-ruined-a-mans-life-and-resulted-in-a-60-million-lawsuit-against-the-govt/ 418749;1386851855;mircea_popescu;this is like badbios reloaded. 418750;1386851857;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 100 @ 0.00359998 = 0.36 BTC [+] 418751;1386851955;mircea_popescu;also proof the internet is for retards and prepubescent children : http://media2.adshuffle.com/images/1053073/c30cb561e1c14890b210284570090c72.jpg 418752;1386851979;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.05 = 0.15 BTC 418753;1386852913;Gotyawallet;I knew that autocomplete was going to fuck someone! 418754;1386852916;Gotyawallet;I KNEW IT 418755;1386852932;Gotyawallet;Do these people not have any common sense when they make shit like this! 418756;1386852962;mircea_popescu;but it helps people by making things easier for them! 418757;1386852978;mircea_popescu;i've never ever used because i'm nuts, not because it's patently useless. 418758;1386853002;Gotyawallet;i dont understand the picture 418759;1386853077;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11650 @ 0.00088849 = 10.3509 BTC [-] {2} 418760;1386853157;Gotyawallet;I hope that lawyer's up and sues everyone involved to poverty. 418761;1386853165;Gotyawallet;(man) 418762;1386853209;Gotyawallet;and shares for lawsuit dollars please 418763;1386853245;Gotyawallet;id rather have $60 mil shares instead of $60 mil usd 418764;1386853373;dexX7;Only problem Kantor says is that after he typed the word “controlled,” Google search allegedly auto-completed his phrase with the word “bomb” << lol what 418765;1386853485;pigeons;that happens. the question the article doesnt answer is are his claims of how his life was affected true or not 418766;1386853500;pigeons;we can't tell the tin foil nut from the oppressed anymore 418767;1386853540;Gotyawallet;bottom line, no probable cause? get the fuck out of our searches. 418768;1386853579;pigeons;well i don't have anything to hide so i leave the bathroom door open when i take my dumps 418769;1386853637;mircea_popescu;kinda the sign of the end days isn't it. 418770;1386853666;deadweasel;http://finance.fortune.cnn.com/2013/12/05/betting-against-bitcoin-bubble/ 418771;1386853666;ozbot;How to bet against the bitcoin megabubble - The Term Sheet: Fortune's deals blogTerm Sheet 418772;1386853671;deadweasel;MPEx, a stock exchange for companies with shares traded in bitcoins -- there are four of them -- also lists bitcoin options. 418773;1386853692;mircea_popescu;so someone please explain benkay` s link to me please. bitbet has a btc/usd bet that has more volume on it than the entire predictious bullshit put together. 418774;1386853693;deadweasel;mpex in FORTUNE. 418775;1386853695;deadweasel;:) 418776;1386853702;mircea_popescu;does tyler durden write about bitbet ? no, does not. 418777;1386853708;mircea_popescu;what the fuck is going on there ? 418778;1386853752;mircea_popescu;wasn't this zerohedge thing supposed to be like, NOT verge/gawker/vice/whatever ? 418779;1386853766;mircea_popescu;you can't tell the shitholes from the fuckholes anymore i swear. 418780;1386853802;dexX7;oh did they interview you for that line? 418781;1386853811;mircea_popescu;dexX7 hm ? 418782;1386853830;dexX7;did a reporter approach you and asked about mpex? 418783;1386853848;mircea_popescu;zerohedge has reporters ?! 418784;1386853857;mircea_popescu;omfg how long have i been asleep 418785;1386853869;pigeons;i bet a reporter asks mircea_popescu about GLBSE before mpex 418786;1386853881;mircea_popescu;pigeons i can just link'em :) 418787;1386853945;deadweasel;"MPEx charges 30 bitcoins to open an account, which at Wednesday's closing price was $33,000." 418788;1386853958;mircea_popescu;if in the end this comes down to, "some starving fucker in england paid someone @zh $200 for a repvertorial" i'm going to piss all over them. 418789;1386854193;pankkake;I'm pretty sure you can easily get published on ZH 418790;1386854203;mircea_popescu;dexX7 o you meant the fortune thing did you. yeah, guy was around here for a coupla days asking questions. 418791;1386854210;mircea_popescu;(he asked me via email and i sent him here) 418792;1386854213;dexX7;ah okay 418793;1386854236;mircea_popescu;it's all in the logs, which is how it should be imo. 418794;1386854254;dexX7;the article doesn't sound very positive though.. or the reporter is clueless about how things work 418795;1386854263;mircea_popescu;pankkake well apparently it doesn't work that way. 418796;1386854286;mircea_popescu;dexX7 the logs kinda answer that question for ya. which is how it should be #2 :) 418797;1386854304;pankkake;they take from a few blogs already, perhaps submit something trollbaiting enough and it will get published 418798;1386854386;mircea_popescu;perhaps it's their fucking job to do their fucking job ? 418799;1386854403;mircea_popescu;that was the original point, i thought the theory is that zh is not old media. 418800;1386854416;mircea_popescu;so far that theory and practice fail to mesh at all. 418801;1386854508;pankkake;well certainly not old media, being contrarian is their raison d'être ! 418802;1386854547;mircea_popescu;i fail to see it. that's the most obsequious piece ever. 418803;1386854588;mircea_popescu;seriously, promote a disqus based, bullshit black footer site ? 418804;1386854596;mircea_popescu;i'd rather promote government cheese. 418805;1386854655;pankkake;zh doesn't use disqus 418806;1386854663;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3 BTC [-] 418807;1386854665;mircea_popescu;the shit they're now promoting does. 418808;1386854680;mircea_popescu;complete fucking abdication from any responsibility, it's disgusting. 418809;1386854688;pankkake;lol 418810;1386854785;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.299 = 0.598 BTC [-] 418811;1386855703;CynicalBasterd;. 418812;1386856154;dexX7;http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/12/10/this-finance-expert-thinks-bitcoin-will-fall-99-percent-by-june/ omg sell sell sell 418813;1386856155;ozbot;This finance expert thinks Bitcoin will fall 99 percent by June 418814;1386856196;pankkake;see here: http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoin-will-die/ 418815;1386856211;dexX7;tl;tr: bitcoin is doomed and the euro is decentralized 418816;1386856478;Rulother;99% lol 418817;1386856517;mircea_popescu;dexX7 http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoin-will-die/ 418818;1386856532;pankkake;yes bitcoin is 99% lol 418819;1386856534;mircea_popescu;you been away for a coupla days i take it >D 418820;1386856534;dexX7;yeah pankkake already linked me to this article :) 418821;1386856534;pankkake;1% speculation 418822;1386856545;mircea_popescu;lol okthan! 418823;1386857618;ThickAsThieves;http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/12/casascius/ 418824;1386857619;ozbot;U.S. Government Nastygram Shuts Down One-Man Bitcoin Mint | Wired Enterprise | Wired.com 418825;1386857662;mircea_popescu;awww. 418826;1386857726;pigeons;i thought money was meant and intended to be transmitted 418827;1386857734;pigeons;omg you transmitted money 418828;1386857743;pigeons;money wants to be transmited 418829;1386857769;pigeons;wtf else to do with it 418830;1386857777;ThickAsThieves;terrorism bro! 418831;1386857810;ThickAsThieves;he can just sell his brand to some european I guess 418832;1386857901;pigeons;oh yeah and child porn and drugs 418833;1386857910;topace;thestringpuller: correction, i dont run havelock, i run the Havelock Mining Fund (HMF) 418834;1386857965;mircea_popescu;so who runs havelock ? 418835;1386857998;pigeons;shadowy carribean investors 418836;1386858021;pigeons;aka topace ;) 418837;1386858057;mircea_popescu;lmao this quest for anonimity. why would anyone trust this thing if nobody actually will step up and say "yeah, it's me" ? 418838;1386858057;mircea_popescu;government tried this route already. it fails. 418839;1386858064;topace;the panama fund runs havelock (the exchange) 418840;1386858073;mircea_popescu;the panama thing isn't running anything. 418841;1386858078;mircea_popescu;you gotta have a person. who is the boss ? 418842;1386858092;topace;you can call the office and ask 418843;1386858103;mircea_popescu;i ain't calling no office. they come here and tell me. 418844;1386858106;mircea_popescu;if they want to exist, that is. 418845;1386858107;topace;heh 418846;1386858126;mircea_popescu;wanna bitcoin, gotta play by bitcoin rules. 418847;1386858135;mircea_popescu;otherwise, go open a hamburger franchise or w/e. 418848;1386858147;topace;but i like hamburgers 418849;1386858163;pigeons;manager's face is on the door at my burger place 418850;1386858185;pigeons;he's not a clown either ;) 418851;1386858189;mircea_popescu;pigeons i thought the company ran the joint. 418852;1386858214;pigeons;yeah, well somebody's face is there 418853;1386858235;pigeons;he has nice teeth 418854;1386858244;unbalanced;mp, get out your wallet ... http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/nhm/4218208723.html 418855;1386858277;unbalanced;What do you get when you have everything? 418856;1386858308;unbalanced;;;seen javanomad 418857;1386858309;gribble;javanomad was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 11 hours, 3 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: ;;seen unbalanced 418858;1386858323;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.299 BTC [-] 418859;1386858327;kakobrekla;bitbet: Confirmed total: 10,009 BTC 418860;1386858347;kakobrekla;congrats. 418861;1386858352;kakobrekla;thanks! 418862;1386858384;unbalanced;Is that live bets now 418863;1386858394;unbalanced;Or lifetime? 418864;1386858405;kakobrekla;all of incoming ever 418865;1386858405;unbalanced;either way, wow 418866;1386858428;unbalanced;When did you launch? January? 418867;1386858433;kakobrekla;yea 418868;1386858453;unbalanced;Well played, gentlemen. 418869;1386858462;kakobrekla;ty :) 418870;1386858543;unbalanced;javanomad, since we're missing each other here: got the coffee two days ago and handed it all out in 5 minutes to the others at the coworking space 418871;1386858548;mircea_popescu;lol da fuck am i gonna do with a unicorn 418872;1386858562;unbalanced;Chicks dig unicorns? 418873;1386858576;mircea_popescu;do unicorns dig chicks ? 418874;1386858587;unbalanced;javanomad: I was greeted like a conquering hero 418875;1386858621;mircea_popescu;pigeons what's with us ppl and teeth anyway 418876;1386858653;mircea_popescu;all you hear is how people's teeth are. it's like some weird voodoo shit by now 418877;1386858656;unbalanced;But more importantly globe-spanning P2P Bitcoin commerce ftw! They were suddenly way more curious about Bitcoin, it really helps tell the story. 418878;1386858671;mircea_popescu;unbalanced good for you. 418879;1386858736;unbalanced;Little Bitcoin icon on the package and everything 418880;1386858746;mircea_popescu;http://www.jta.org/2013/12/11/news-opinion/world/romanian-state-tv-airs-christmas-carol-about-burning-jews 418881;1386858747;ozbot;Romanian state TV airs Christmas carol about burning Jews | Jewish Telegraphic Agency 418882;1386858797;pigeons;mircea_popescu: i noticed when i was a child people's "orthodontists" would reccomend the child get braces to pay for a new boat for the "doctor". He told my mom my sister really needed them because otherwise low self esteem could mar her life forever. You notice lots of people with the exact same shaped teeth, its rather boring. It doesn't seem to bother Britons who floss with pocketknifes and forks 418883;1386858857;mircea_popescu;yeah i was thinking, what a recipe for disaster this is, get a bunch of very emotionally repressed, sexually insecure protestant type people and lock them up in a can where the usual british problem of "acceptable things to talk about" is resolved by economical interest. 418884;1386858873;mircea_popescu;if there's not advertisers to make topics acceptable to discuss among strangers, there'd only be silence. 418885;1386858903;mircea_popescu;i suppose us housewives hold tupperware parties just for the shred of human contact. 418886;1386858998;ThickAsThieves;you arent far off the mark 418887;1386859010;mircea_popescu;scandalous. 418888;1386859154;ThickAsThieves;uhh 418889;1386859154;ThickAsThieves;http://www.usatoday.com/ 418890;1386859155;ozbot;USA TODAY: Latest World and US News - USATODAY.com 418891;1386859161;ThickAsThieves;look at the logo 418892;1386859177;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.00089111 = 11.1389 BTC [+] {5} 418893;1386859190;dexX7;to teh moon 418894;1386859193;mircea_popescu;octopussy ? 418895;1386859204;dexX7;looks toxic, in green 418896;1386859205;mircea_popescu;o hey. nice. 418897;1386859244;mircea_popescu;"Shortly after his panel on investment opportunities, former child star Brock Pierce (The Mighty Ducks) was engulfed by a throng of admirers." 418898;1386859247;mircea_popescu;what was this ? 418899;1386859275;mircea_popescu;"Brock Pierce is the godfather of virtual currency," says David Johnston, CEO of Engine, and another early adopter of the digital currency. 418900;1386859288;mircea_popescu;o hey lol. jesus went out of style as a style. 418901;1386859341;ThickAsThieves;"It's like being on the ground floor of the Internet 20 years ago," Smith said. "Bitcoin is going to be transformative." 418902;1386859352;ThickAsThieves;from the article from the green bitcoin logo link 418903;1386859360;pigeons;wtf 418904;1386859366;ThickAsThieves;it's awesome watching the shills take form 418905;1386859383;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves dude, he was an advocate since the 90s 418906;1386859386;mircea_popescu;way before satoshi's time. 418907;1386859392;ThickAsThieves;of course 418908;1386859404;mircea_popescu;i'm rooting for the guy who was advocating it in korea. 418909;1386859408;ThickAsThieves;I invented digital currency once by mistake 418910;1386859412;ThickAsThieves;i just didnt patent it 418911;1386859424;mircea_popescu;sue the winklevoss. 418912;1386859460;ThickAsThieves;every major article reveals the author/pub's bitcoin ownership status and not much more 418913;1386859467;thestringpuller;;;ticker 418914;1386859467;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 905.0, Best ask: 908.354, Bid-ask spread: 3.35400, Last trade: 909.0, 24 hour volume: 11088.84685319, 24 hour low: 856.123, 24 hour high: 959.88, 24 hour vwap: 898.69515 418915;1386859473;ThickAsThieves;such a fkn ponzi 418916;1386859510;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves it also reveals this funny "we have no understanding of any of the constraints of the space, therefore we don't understand what competence is or why would you want to build on the results of others" 418917;1386859518;mircea_popescu;pretty anticultural and obviously self limiting. 418918;1386859575;ThickAsThieves;better to be a unique snowflake and make it up as you go 418919;1386859584;ThickAsThieves;no one's paying attention anyway 418920;1386859585;mircea_popescu;outright sterile, actually. the only thing a guy that comes out to claim he's the guy that REALLY invented bitcoin could possibly produce is a ream of arguments with all the other guys claiming they did it even before him. 418921;1386859591;ThickAsThieves;other than the advertisers 418922;1386859594;thestringpuller;;;google "you are not a unique snowflake" 418923;1386859595;gribble;Fight Club (novel) - Wikiquote: ; Fight Club (1999) - Quotes - IMDb: ; you are not a beautiful or unique snowflake - YouTube: 418924;1386859640;mircea_popescu;anyway, they do have the lemon sale, which is actual news. 418925;1386859646;mircea_popescu;no idea why they link this nonsense, but w/e. 418926;1386859660;mircea_popescu;not like they're zerohedge and people have expectations or anything. 418927;1386859679;thestringpuller;zerohedge good? wall street journal bad? 418928;1386859709;mircea_popescu;notrly. 418929;1386859725;ThickAsThieves;hey remember when everyone wanted to decentralize everything? 418930;1386859739;mircea_popescu;financial trade rags bad ; zh latecomer ; claims "we're not gonna be that retarded" ; benefit of doubt ; dissapoint. 418931;1386859755;ThickAsThieves;now colored coins devs are back in their closet waiting to be brought out for the next exchange shutdown 418932;1386859767;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves the only reason that stopped is because the current crop of fanbois are too intellectually lazy to even take that much of a reading plunge 418933;1386859771;mircea_popescu;they don't even know that's a thing. 418934;1386859790;mircea_popescu;basically it's summed up by george costanza's "a widget for televising opera or whatever" 418935;1386859846;ThickAsThieves;https://medium.com/p/7f95a386692f 418936;1386859858;pankkake;well some seem to be in the testing phase, i.e. the moment they realize it sucks 418937;1386859860;ThickAsThieves;wtf is up with change outputs anyway 418938;1386859879;pankkake;what do you mean? 418939;1386859886;mircea_popescu;sounds like a decent obama slogan 418940;1386859889;mircea_popescu;"The Outputs of Change" 418941;1386859930;ThickAsThieves;well it's silly that a wallet exposes more info than needed for the tx 418942;1386859958;dexX7;ThickAsThieves: there seems to be progress re colored coins: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=297503.msg3900841#msg3900841 418943;1386859965;ThickAsThieves;will not click 418944;1386859968;ThickAsThieves;but thx 418945;1386859971;dexX7;haha k 418946;1386859989;ThickAsThieves;gotta stay ignant! 418947;1386860000;dexX7; well it's silly that a wallet exposes more info than needed for the tx << ? 418948;1386860007;dexX7;that's how bitcoin works 418949;1386860014;ThickAsThieves;it spews info? 418950;1386860053;dexX7;you can't take "half of an output, so you don't have any change" 418951;1386860057;jcpham;will not click eh 418952;1386860070;jcpham;y u no clikc dramatalk link tat 418953;1386860085;ThickAsThieves;you can explain it all you like 418954;1386860098;ThickAsThieves;but that doesnt mean it cant be designed better 418955;1386860102;jcpham;actvemining is still a thing? 418956;1386860104;pankkake;you could tweak the whole input selection, and do things like create multiple outputs 418957;1386860128;pankkake;but the whole input/output thing is there for a reason, I don't think it can be easily changed 418958;1386860158;ThickAsThieves;couldnt someone make a decentralized bitcoin laundering scheme? 418959;1386860162;pankkake;well activemining is a thing in a sense that unicorns are still a thing, you can write stories about them 418960;1386860212;dexX7;well, if you want to use multiple inputs and outputs, you can do it 418961;1386860259;pankkake;there is CoinJoin and some other thing I always forget the name of 418962;1386860319;pankkake;CoinSwap 418963;1386860472;ThickAsThieves;http://blogs.marketwatch.com/thetell/2013/12/11/fidelity-now-allows-clients-to-put-bitcoins-in-iras/ 418964;1386860472;ozbot;Fidelity now allows clients to put bitcoins in IRAs - The Tell - MarketWatch 418965;1386860486;thestringpuller;oh wow 418966;1386860563;jcpham;;;baratio --market bitstamp 418967;1386860563;gribble;Total bids: 16525252 USD. Total asks: 16205 BTC. Ratio: 1019.73429 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0533 seconds 418968;1386860575;jcpham;;;baratio 418969;1386860577;gribble;Total bids: 34368303 USD. Total asks: 29979 BTC. Ratio: 1146.38318 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0950 seconds 418970;1386860653;Duffer1;still have to be an accredited investor for that though i believe 418971;1386860659;thestringpuller;Whatever happened to that 418972;1386860666;dexX7;speaking of bitcoin and outputs.. https://blockchain.info/tx/f0d9df5e1b0312f9b5a61cd3469083c3f2c8945de4dc648f4218ddbd0a2cdfdc?show_adv=true =D (take a look at the output scripts) 418973;1386860670;thestringpuller;thing TradeHill was making 418974;1386860705;ThickAsThieves;bitcoin magazine's content profile baffles me http://bitcoinmagazine.com/8812/creativity-as-problem-solving/ 418975;1386860775;ThickAsThieves;http://blog.coinbase.com/post/69775463031/coinbase-raises-25-million-from-andreessen-horowitz 418976;1386860775;ozbot;Coinbase Raises $25 Million From Andreessen Horowitz - The Coinbase Blog 418977;1386860794;ThickAsThieves;"Separately, we’re also very pleased to share that Gavin Andresen has joined Coinbase as an advisor. " 418978;1386860815;ThickAsThieves;"We are averaging 10,000 new customer sign-ups a day, and are now working with over 16,000 merchants including OkCupid, Khan Academy, and Reddit, who use Coinbase to accept bitcoin. " 418979;1386860851;pankkake;dexX7: I'm surprised it got into a block 418980;1386860857;pankkake;oh, blame Luke-Jr! 418981;1386860861;dexX7;hahaha 418982;1386860862;dexX7;yep 418983;1386860906;ThickAsThieves;http://edition.cnn.com/2013/12/10/business/will-bitcoin-replace-paypal/ 418984;1386860906;ozbot;Can Bitcoin replace PayPal? - CNN.com 418985;1386860942;ThickAsThieves;"Traders don't want volatility in the currency that they are taking in." 418986;1386860948;pankkake;the answser is WRONG QUESTION 418987;1386860960;ThickAsThieves;yeah cuz people buy bitcoins hoping they dont go up 418988;1386861180;ThickAsThieves;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1sfir9/snoop_dogg_tweets_coinbase_and_bitpay/ 418989;1386861183;ozbot;Snoop Dogg tweets Coinbase and Bitpay : Bitcoin 418990;1386861192;ThickAsThieves;"With my mind on my money and my money on my bitcoins." 418991;1386861199;ThickAsThieves;"Brain wallets are not a good way to secure your money." 418992;1386861234;pankkake;for a guy who smokes weed probably 418993;1386861253;thestringpuller;lol\ 418994;1386861269;thestringpuller;loose all your crypto wealth cause you smoked so much you forgot your brain wallet 418995;1386861273;thestringpuller;lose* 418996;1386861312;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 80 @ 0.05 = 4 BTC 418997;1386861480;thestringpuller;!ticker h am1 418998;1386861482;assbot;[HAVELOCK:AM1] 1D: 0.28377771 / 0.29229715 / 0.30493107 (182 shares, 53.19808195 BTC), 7D: 0.28377771 / 0.32705881 / 0.37300000 (1684 shares, 550.76704379 BTC), 30D: 0.23500000 / 0.39790206 / 0.67999999 (7765 shares, 3089.70952185 BTC) 418999;1386861499;mircea_popescu;dexX7 is that the kslaughter of the famous activemining ? 419000;1386861505;dexX7;yes 419001;1386861538;pankkake;I don't think he has disclosed how much he pays the dev? 419002;1386861556;Duffer1;is he deving that ngccc? 419003;1386861583;mircea_popescu;funny. any someone is going to even look at that thing now ? 419004;1386861592;mircea_popescu;"use us, we employ scammers! it's great for bitcoin!" 419005;1386861608;mircea_popescu;at least coinbase has the sense to rape ex-respectable ppl a la gavin 419006;1386861615;zacm;And So It Begins. http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/12/casascius/ Fincen shuts down Casascius Coin 419007;1386861649;mircea_popescu;zacm was here earlier and on teh grapevine for a coupla weeks yeah 419008;1386861670;kakobrekla;sell 1 cas coin for 10 btc 419009;1386861689;kakobrekla;oh i forgot ;; 419010;1386861694;zacm;wonder what all the people swooning over amazing senate hearings will have to say 419011;1386861694;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 419012;1386861755;ThickAsThieves;;;estimate 419013;1386861756;gribble;Next difficulty estimate | 1040268619.58 based on data since last change | 894132728.373 based on data for last three days 419014;1386861763;ThickAsThieves;;;bcstats 419015;1386861766;gribble;Current Blocks: 274513 | Current Difficulty: 9.08350862437022E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 276191 | Next Difficulty In: 1678 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 8 hours, 35 minutes, and 33 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 1040268619.58 | Estimated Percent Change: 14.52278 419016;1386861774;ThickAsThieves;:( 419017;1386861789;pankkake;http://bitcoindifficulty.com/ "Next difficulty (estimate): 940,372,575 (+4%)" 419018;1386861790;ozbot;Bitcoin Difficulty: 908,350,862 419019;1386861793;pankkake;I want to believe! 419020;1386861811;mircea_popescu;it could easily go either way imo 419021;1386861825;dexX7;hashfast seems to be almost ready to ship 419022;1386861873;pankkake;because they did show an empty case at a conference? 419023;1386861893;mircea_popescu;get out of here, ready to ship, so it takes a week if they ship today. too late. 419024;1386861907;Kleeck;.d 419025;1386861907;ozbot;908350862.43702 | Next Diff in 1678 blocks | Estimated Change: 14.5096% in 9d 23h 0m 5s 419026;1386861923;Kleeck;Too late for what? Do their machines not ROI? 419027;1386861931;Kleeck;(I haven't checked) 419028;1386861935;pankkake;too late for the bet 419029;1386861939;Kleeck;AH. 419030;1386861965;Kleeck;Link? Is it for them to ship before the end of the year? 419031;1386861981;pankkake;no the difficulty bet. biggest one, top of homepage :) 419032;1386861995;mircea_popescu;Kleeck for the bet, 419033;1386861998;Kleeck;I don't really frequent bitbet 419034;1386862002;mircea_popescu;we were talking of this 300 btc 1bn diff bet 419035;1386862008;Kleeck;oh right 419036;1386862011;Kleeck;seen some chatter about it 419037;1386862105;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 14811 @ 0.00008 = 1.1849 BTC [-] {6} 419038;1386862112;Kleeck;So, we're not thinking it'll pass 1B before EOY? 419039;1386862131;dexX7;http://bitbet.us/bet/519/btc-network-difficulty-to-top-1b-before-2014/ 419040;1386862133;ozbot;BitBet - BTC network difficulty to top 1B before 2014 419041;1386862204;mircea_popescu;it may, it may not. 419042;1386862288;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00286631 = 0.2866 BTC [-] {5} 419043;1386862349;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 355 @ 0.002861 = 1.0157 BTC [-] {4} 419044;1386862362;Kleeck;A nail biter, for sure. 419045;1386862715;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 18318 @ 0.00009788 = 1.793 BTC [+] {8} 419046;1386862776;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 7 @ 0.10361425 = 0.7253 BTC [+] {7} 419047;1386862947;thestringpuller;;;estimate 419048;1386862949;gribble;Next difficulty estimate | 1040199420.32 based on data since last change | 894132728.373 based on data for last three days 419049;1386862967;thestringpuller;the last change estimate keeps going up, but past three days is very slim 419050;1386862973;thestringpuller;looks like hash rate is evening 419051;1386862975;thestringpuller;;;nethash 419052;1386862975;gribble;6400549.04237 419053;1386862985;ThickAsThieves;thats wrong 419054;1386862991;thestringpuller;the hash rate? 419055;1386862994;ThickAsThieves;yeah 419056;1386863006;thestringpuller;is there a better source? 419057;1386863006;ThickAsThieves;http://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty 419058;1386863007;ozbot;Bitcoin Difficulty and Hashrate Chart - BitcoinWisdom 419059;1386863030;ThickAsThieves;the hashrate there shows for last 504 blocks 419060;1386863033;mircea_popescu;stimated Next Difficulty:1,149,826,024 (+26.58%) 419061;1386863037;mircea_popescu;?! srsly ? 419062;1386863093;thestringpuller;lol 419063;1386863093;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves who runs that site, do you know ? 419064;1386863100;ThickAsThieves;i dont 419065;1386863139;ThickAsThieves;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=190722.0 419066;1386863141;ozbot;BitcoinWisdom.com - Live Bitcoin/LiteCoin Charts 419067;1386863177;mircea_popescu;aha 419068;1386863356;ThickAsThieves;it's still a lil early to have an accurate number, but 338 blocks solved already since diffchange 419069;1386863386;ThickAsThieves;not looking good 419070;1386863422;thestringpuller;why you say that? 419071;1386863428;thestringpuller;"not looking good" 419072;1386863435;ThickAsThieves;cuz i bet on No 419073;1386863447;thestringpuller;lol 419074;1386863454;thestringpuller;biased are we? 419075;1386863471;ThickAsThieves;it's a bet 419076;1386863474;ThickAsThieves;of course i'm biased 419077;1386863477;mircea_popescu;^ 419078;1386863503;thestringpuller;hegemony yoyo 419079;1386863519;thestringpuller;Someone needs to IPO Wu-Tang Financia 419080;1386863520;thestringpuller;l 419081;1386863600;mircea_popescu;talk to wu-tang. 419082;1386863731;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves what do you get if you win that one, 200ish ? 419083;1386863741;ThickAsThieves;yeah 419084;1386863751;mircea_popescu;so like...a house. 419085;1386863757;ThickAsThieves;i have an early bet on Yes too 419086;1386863771;thestringpuller;lol 419087;1386863807;mircea_popescu;or w/e, a small slice of pizza. 419088;1386863813;ThickAsThieves;hehe 419089;1386863845;thestringpuller;just ddos a mining pool 419090;1386863847;thestringpuller;for a day 419091;1386863852;thestringpuller;totally worth it 419092;1386863863;pankkake;but how much would that cost? 419093;1386863874;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.05 = 0.25 BTC 419094;1386863904;mircea_popescu;or hire gavin and make him commit a fork 419095;1386863908;mircea_popescu;no wait, that wouldn't do anything. 419096;1386863908;pankkake;you could bribe friedcat too 419097;1386863910;mircea_popescu;har har. 419098;1386863962;ThickAsThieves;I'll have to wait like everyone else 419099;1386863988;ThickAsThieves;and then when it starts looking like No, some schlub will throw 500btc on it 419100;1386864025;pankkake;the Yesses don't stop coming, I don't really get why 419101;1386864043;mircea_popescu;pankkake gotta make that 7% a week somehow. 419102;1386864086;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves i was thinking, if there's a sudden hickup in the hashing there's going to be such a run to cover the world has never seen 419103;1386864086;pankkake;7% or -100% with a pretty good change of the latter. that's some shitty gambling odds! 419104;1386864104;mircea_popescu;pankkake shhh, you don't understand forum investing. 419105;1386864124;pankkake;I do, I made a comment to encourage Yes votes! :p 419106;1386864131;mircea_popescu;yes on this bet is actually a better "investment" than everything they do over btctalk/reddit/etc. 419107;1386864132;ThickAsThieves;reminds me of a point i made to the board 419108;1386864147;ThickAsThieves;one benefit of being an AM franchise, 419109;1386864158;ThickAsThieves;is not having to buy the hardware 419110;1386864159;ThickAsThieves;however 419111;1386864169;ThickAsThieves;you must submit AM shares as collateral 419112;1386864179;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.11289999 BTC [+] 419113;1386864180;ThickAsThieves;if they are plummeting in value 419114;1386864188;ThickAsThieves;then... 419115;1386864198;mircea_popescu;myeah. 419116;1386864268;jcpham;double litecoin price rocket inbound 419117;1386864275;jcpham;much facedesk 419118;1386864286;ThickAsThieves;huh? 419119;1386864286;pankkake;ltc on gox? 419120;1386864290;pankkake;ltc on china? 419121;1386864292;pankkake;ltc on moon? 419122;1386864292;jcpham;2 weeks! 419123;1386864295;mircea_popescu;ltc on the moon! 419124;1386864297;mircea_popescu;aw shit 419125;1386864300;pankkake;:D 419126;1386864318;mircea_popescu;is because i write gramatically correct uncapitalised irc lines 419127;1386864328;mircea_popescu;unlike frenchie here. 419128;1386864331;ThickAsThieves;are you trying to turn this into btce trollbox 419129;1386864334;ThickAsThieves;or do you have news 419130;1386864337;pankkake;it was intentionnal 419131;1386864357;ThickAsThieves;fly chikun ! 419132;1386864358;jcpham;https://twitter.com/chijs/status/410855263391219712 419133;1386864359;ozbot;Twitter / chijs: BTC China comment implies they'll ... 419134;1386864363;jcpham;baseless rumor 419135;1386864366;jcpham;accusations 419136;1386864369;pankkake;oh… I've seen that one already 419137;1386864372;mircea_popescu;jcpham so may i suggest reddit ? 419138;1386864380;jcpham;yay 419139;1386864382;mircea_popescu;that's where newfags dump the stale filler. 419140;1386864391;pankkake;> implying is what gox does too 419141;1386864398;ThickAsThieves;i thought LTC just mimics BTC now? 419142;1386864411;jurov;http://bitbet.us/bet/636/cardano-delivered-before-christmas/?ref=1EteoRKNYbNhhmFfsKnUSWRF3JUpKCcMnc got no love :( 419143;1386864412;ozbot;BitBet - Cardano delivered before Christmas 419144;1386864423;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8881 @ 0.00089524 = 7.9506 BTC [+] {2} 419145;1386864436;ThickAsThieves;whats up with the Google Glass bet? 419146;1386864436;jurov;noone wants teh cardanos 419147;1386864437;pankkake;pretty good for a delivery bet with no preorder 419148;1386864439;mircea_popescu;jurov you been pumping it enough ? 419149;1386864443;ThickAsThieves;do you need more proof? 419150;1386864453;jcpham;mircea_popescu did you get any new rota signs ups or did you successfully frighten everyone away 419151;1386864473;mircea_popescu;jcpham according to people i know i'm fucking scary. 419152;1386864475;jurov;mircea_popescu: NSA should stir some hype, not just me 419153;1386864480;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves which one was this ? 419154;1386864485;ThickAsThieves;hey wait wht hasnt NSA put 50btc on delivering? 419155;1386864489;ThickAsThieves;scams 419156;1386864491;jcpham;bleh 419157;1386864499;ThickAsThieves;http://bitbet.us/bet/272/google-glasses-will-be-delivered-before-the-end/ 419158;1386864502;ozbot;BitBet - Google Glasses will be delivered before the end of 2013 419159;1386864523;ThickAsThieves;I got my Glass 1 day after I ordered it 419160;1386864525;mircea_popescu;a. 419161;1386864532;mircea_popescu;well it hasn't actually delivered to customers has it. 419162;1386864549;jcpham;google glass is a myth 419163;1386864551;ThickAsThieves;I am a customer 419164;1386864558;mircea_popescu;you got one ? 419165;1386864560;ThickAsThieves;yep 419166;1386864564;mircea_popescu;pics etc ? 419167;1386864571;ThickAsThieves;if you require, sure 419168;1386864575;jcpham;can i bet now! 419169;1386864581;mircea_popescu;well it's not been able to be verified so far. 419170;1386864583;jcpham;that's an old bet 419171;1386864592;jcpham;wtf i've seen them 419172;1386864603;mircea_popescu;jcpham seen != delivered tio customers. 419173;1386864608;pankkake;many people blogged about theirs 419174;1386864611;mircea_popescu;devs had freebies to play around for a while 419175;1386864613;mircea_popescu;pankkake link ? 419176;1386864621;jcpham;prior to disassociating from the socialnets i knew multiple verified parties 419177;1386864629;jcpham;2 for sale in -otc now 419178;1386864639;pankkake;http://blog.erratasec.com/2013/06/googles-re-education-camp.html 419179;1386864639;ozbot;Errata Security: I survived Google's re-education camp 419180;1386864655;jurov;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=308675.0 no one there gives a fuck, nor on reddit... or do you advertise elsewhere? 419181;1386864657;ozbot;[Update] Spec announced for the Cardano, S.NSA's first product 419182;1386864663;mircea_popescu;"Google wasn't just going to ship the devices to us bloggers and figure things out for ourselves." 419183;1386864669;mircea_popescu;not a customer dude. review copies aren't it. 419184;1386864676;jcpham;no that's what they did 419185;1386864683;jcpham;they shipped a half finished procut 419186;1386864687;jcpham;*product 419187;1386864706;jcpham;updates through play store obv 419188;1386864755;pankkake;oh, you mean like retail 419189;1386864760;jcpham;remember android 1 was a full OS with a lot of apps 419190;1386864771;jcpham;android 4 is bare and everything through play 419191;1386864779;mircea_popescu;jurov we talking the bet or the product ? 419192;1386864786;jurov;about the product 419193;1386864789;mircea_popescu;we don't advertise a product that isn't yet orderable, no. 419194;1386864791;jcpham;thev'ye changed their "final product" in recent years 419195;1386864796;mircea_popescu;this would be part of being fucking sane in the head. 419196;1386864883;ThickAsThieves;making pics hold on 419197;1386864907;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves did you actually buy the thing ? 419198;1386864907;jurov;hm, should have considered it before placing he bet 419199;1386864911;ThickAsThieves;I ordered mine and they came i 1 day, was also able to order accessories and choose color 419200;1386864913;ThickAsThieves;yes 419201;1386864938;mircea_popescu;a splendid then. make it good. 419202;1386864985;jcpham;it's legit afaik 419203;1386864998;jcpham;they delivered the product and opened it up to more than just devs 419204;1386865008;jcpham;like he said, colors and accessories 419205;1386865046;asciilifeform;'what, stereo vision? i wasn't really using that for anything!' 419206;1386865054;jcpham;not a *whole lot* of functionality but they can always update the functionality through play store 419207;1386865061;jcpham;play store has your whole device 419208;1386865069;ThickAsThieves;http://imgur.com/20s2neX 419209;1386865069;ozbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 419210;1386865078;ThickAsThieves;got one more showing more of the packaging 419211;1386865094;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 27110 @ 0.0001107 = 3.0011 BTC [+] {15} 419212;1386865147;ThickAsThieves;the shades are removable 419213;1386865163;ThickAsThieves;but i still must wear contacts to use em 419214;1386865177;ThickAsThieves;which I have barely done yet 419215;1386865249;ThickAsThieves;http://imgur.com/eEEbd6I 419216;1386865250;ozbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 419217;1386865258;pankkake;I find it weird that they ignored people having glasses already. I mean, that's a lot of nerds 419218;1386865278;jcpham;can you watch porn on it or not 419219;1386865298;ThickAsThieves;i'll let you know 419220;1386865304;jcpham;lololol 419221;1386865325;ThickAsThieves;first observation is that having the video on in any way destroys battery life 419222;1386865337;asciilifeform;jcpham: you can watch film on the $100 chinese hmd that's been around for years. the point of google's was ostensibly a display with svga res that you could actually read text on 419223;1386865346;kanzure;google glass sdk is pretty lame 419224;1386865348;asciilifeform;that isn't made by Boeing and doesn't cost $100k 419225;1386865354;jcpham;oh text 419226;1386865357;ThickAsThieves;i need a bitcoin ticker app 419227;1386865359;ThickAsThieves;:) 419228;1386865367;kanzure;straight into your eyeball? 419229;1386865379;ThickAsThieves;as all seen things 419230;1386865385;kanzure;intense 419231;1386865405;asciilifeform;still waiting to see how google's hmd stacks up against my 'p4' 419232;1386865424;asciilifeform;(http://www.loper-os.org/vintage/paralleleye/eye.html) 419233;1386865485;ThickAsThieves;the first time you put them on, you realize how embarassing they really are 419234;1386865511;deadweasel;i realized that the first time I saw one. 419235;1386865540;Diablo-D3;asciilifeform: OH GOD 419236;1386865543;Diablo-D3;ITS A SCOUTER 419237;1386865543;mircea_popescu;well... most people don't have the brainpower that'd allow them to walk and chew at the same time 419238;1386865553;mircea_popescu;clearly handling an eyepatch is not for the masses. 419239;1386865587;asciilifeform;what's SCOUTER 419240;1386865590;Diablo-D3;VEGITA, WHAT DOES IT SAY ABOUT HIS POWER LEVEL 419241;1386865625;mircea_popescu;the original over 9000 device ? 419242;1386865628;pankkake;incidentally, S.MPOE is approaching that level 419243;1386865642;Diablo-D3;mircea_popescu: yes 419244;1386865650;mircea_popescu;!t m s.mpoe 419245;1386865651;assbot;[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00087288 / 0.00088257 / 0.00089634 (300146 shares, 264.90 BTC), 7D: 0.00078101 / 0.00085397 / 0.00089634 (3403278 shares, 2,906.33 BTC), 30D: 0.0007725 / 0.00082916 / 0.00089634 (8091783 shares, 6,709.42 BTC) 419246;1386865663;mircea_popescu;90 thousand, son. 419247;1386865666;mircea_popescu;over 9 times better. 419248;1386866340;nubbins`;hi 419249;1386866619;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 100 @ 0.003 = 0.3 BTC [+] 419250;1386866644;asciilifeform;damn, never even heard of the '9000' thing before today. clearly i should spend more time reading memes and less maths... 419251;1386866802;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 300 @ 0.00089739 = 0.2692 BTC [+] 419252;1386866810;mircea_popescu;or playing very old arcade games 419253;1386866932;jcpham;or watching dbz 419254;1386866989;nubbins`;or watching three episodes of MST3k at once 419255;1386867000;nubbins`;not sure the human brain can handle that sort of abuse tho 419256;1386867007;nubbins`;OH HEY! 419257;1386867030;nubbins`;heh, you actually gave me a bit of a start then. 419258;1386867159;deadweasel;lol 419259;1386867507;nubbins`;http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/12/casascius/ 419260;1386867507;ozbot;U.S. Government Nastygram Shuts Down One-Man Bitcoin Mint | Wired Enterprise | Wired.com 419261;1386867523;peterL;is jurov around? 419262;1386867547;jurov;yes? 419263;1386867585;peterL;just wondering if you planned on lowering the coinBR fees again since the price of bitcoin went up 5x since you set the current fees? 419264;1386867595;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 33 @ 0.05 = 1.65 BTC 419265;1386867652;jurov;peterL: No 419266;1386867656;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 2074 @ 0.001 = 2.074 BTC {5} 419267;1386867657;nubbins`;my plan is to skulk around until i figure out a way to cajole or barter my way into a free account on coinbr or mpex 419268;1386867679;nubbins`;realistically neither will happen, likely because the coinbr fee is so low and the mpex fee is so high :D 419269;1386867702;jurov;nubbins`: actually its no biggie 419270;1386867703;peterL;oh ok. I must say I really like CoinBR, good job making that run. 419271;1386867717;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 2100 @ 0.001 = 2.1 BTC {4} 419272;1386867718;jurov;just find anyone who has nwmworld's passthroughs from bf 419273;1386867728;jurov;convince them to import them to your account 419274;1386867752;jurov;and you have free acct until January 1 + 1 free withdrawal 419275;1386867762;nubbins`;oh really! 419276;1386867778;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 32104 @ 0.001 = 32.104 BTC {4} 419277;1386867818;nubbins`;no rush either way, i can't redeem my s.mg stock warrant until mid-january anyway, and will likely sit on it long past that date 419278;1386867839;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 115 @ 0.001 = 0.115 BTC {2} 419279;1386868022;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 3580 @ 0.001 = 3.58 BTC 419280;1386868051;nubbins`;suing the government is an interesting thing 419281;1386868060;nubbins`;i mean 419282;1386868079;nubbins`;it doesn't affect the government, as an entity, at all 419283;1386868083;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 10000 @ 0.001 = 10 BTC {2} 419284;1386868137;nubbins`;given a population P, and a subset C who file a class-action lawsuit against the government 419285;1386868148;nubbins`;(whom we'll call G) 419286;1386868178;nubbins`;it just funnels money from (P-C) directly to C, because of some activity or lack thereof on the part of G 419287;1386868202;nubbins`;doesn't really give G any incentive to not fuck up, does it? 419288;1386868291;kanzure;ThickAsThieves: yeah but nobody is able to get a P4 these days 419289;1386868302;kanzure;ThickAsThieves: where'd you find one? 419290;1386868319;pigeons;i have a a few pentium 4's left if you would like one 419291;1386868330;the20year;Sure you can find em 419292;1386868351;kanzure;pigeons: not the same 419293;1386868361;kanzure;http://www.loper-os.org/vintage/paralleleye/p4_frame.png 419294;1386868371;nubbins`;[1:37pm] jcpham: if only i could pay people to blog in dogecoin 419295;1386868372;nubbins`;[1:37pm] stqism: much doge, many posts 419296;1386868373;nubbins`;[1:37pm] jcpham: such scrypt 419297;1386868376;nubbins`;it's... it's taking over 419298;1386868386;asciilifeform;kanzure: ebay. some time in '04. 419299;1386868392;ThickAsThieves;i have no P4 419300;1386868403;pigeons;what's that diseas you get, is it cauliflower ear from wearing nasty foam headbands like that 419301;1386868416;nubbins`;cauliflower ear is from getting hit in the ears too much 419302;1386868418;nubbins`;like boxers 419303;1386868430;nubbins`;not a disease, just ruptured cartilage 419304;1386868431;ThickAsThieves;zitbrow, I think it's called 419305;1386868435;nubbins`;lel 419306;1386868449;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 9793 @ 0.001 = 9.793 BTC {2} 419307;1386868453;asciilifeform;that foam began to rot into dust long ago. 419308;1386868453;nubbins`;"check out my cool new red headband! ZITBROW!" 419309;1386868473;ThickAsThieves;no pain no gain! 419310;1386868478;nubbins`;you can actually see bits of foam all over the table in that picture. 419311;1386868502;asciilifeform;the widget itself still works just as it ought to. 419312;1386868521;asciilifeform;(even though there are moving parts inside!) 419313;1386868536;asciilifeform;it buzzes slightly. vibrating mirror. 419314;1386868547;mircea_popescu;what is the coinbr fee these days ? 419315;1386868564;jurov;0.019/mo 419316;1386868570;the20year;http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Pentium-4-2-4-GHz-BX80532PE2400DSL6SH-Processor-/171192584737 419317;1386868571;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 9980 @ 0.001 = 9.98 BTC 419318;1386868572;ozbot;Intel Pentium 4 2 4 GHz Bx80532pe2400dsl6sh Processor 0735858153720 | eBay 419319;1386868578;asciilifeform;thought about selling it, but who would want it. 419320;1386868593;mircea_popescu;<nubbins`> doesn't really give G any incentive to not fuck up, does it? << exactly right. 419321;1386868667;asciilifeform;the20year: i think he was asking about the ancient monocle display, rather than pentium 4 419322;1386868671;nubbins`;"you mean we can do what we want and the plebs will bear the brunt of our poor choices? great! let's vote ourselves a pay increase!" 419323;1386868693;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 2131 @ 0.001 = 2.131 BTC {4} 419324;1386868754;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 17869 @ 0.001 = 17.869 BTC 419325;1386868774;pigeons;p4 aka zitbrower 419326;1386868877;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.2940125 = 2.3521 BTC [-] {4} 419327;1386868938;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 10000 @ 0.001 = 10 BTC 419328;1386868939;asciilifeform;pigeons: you will get headache from the monocle long before the foam sticks to your head. 419329;1386868954;Kleeck;Guys. I highly recommend this book:http://www.amazon.co.uk/Everything-buying-selling-investing-Bitcoin/dp/1493699474/ref=sr_1_5/278-9187282-6189917?ie=UTF8&qid=1386865168&sr=8-5&keywords=bitcoin+miner 419330;1386868971;pigeons;that's sad. i liked the virtual boy i got use out of it before the headaches. and i kind of liked the headaches 419331;1386868999;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 100 @ 0.002 = 0.2 BTC [-] 419332;1386869009;asciilifeform;pigeons: funnily, the only game console i've ever bought was virtual boy. to tear apart for the optics, when trying to build a binocular version of the p4. 419333;1386869019;pigeons;oh neat 419334;1386869025;Kleeck;pigeons! I had a VirtualBoy as well! MarioTennis was awesome. 419335;1386869037;kanzure;has someone written a usable os for google glass yet? e.g. something to bring up a shell 419336;1386869050;asciilifeform;not so neat. turned a perfectly good machine into an envelope full of parts that will never work again... 419337;1386869059;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 4003 @ 0.001 = 4.003 BTC {4} 419338;1386869061;pigeons;hackcanada who were later accused of being Tom Williams/mybitcoin had virtualboy hacking project that was fun read 419339;1386869104;asciilifeform;i thought 'glass' was just a peripheral for the 'android phone' ? 419340;1386869152;asciilifeform;you could probably write arbitrary pixels to it easily enough 419341;1386869171;kanzure;well it runs linux so people can just flash whatever they want on it i assume 419342;1386869181;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 95898 @ 0.001 = 95.898 BTC {2} 419343;1386869185;kanzure;android-linux i mean 419344;1386869191;nubbins`;i recall seeing a virtual boy set up on a counter in a department store the day i bought super mario 3 419345;1386869200;nubbins`;we were on family vacation, driving through the usa 419346;1386869215;nubbins`;and i had to spend two goddamn weeks reading the instruction manual for that game before i could play it 419347;1386869216;asciilifeform;glass: 640360. pitiful. 419348;1386869218;nubbins`;pure torture 419349;1386869242;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 250 @ 0.001 = 0.25 BTC 419350;1386869252;nubbins`;wait, no, the years are all wrong for that 419351;1386869279;nubbins`;maybe it was a game boy. 419352;1386869293;nubbins`;anyway, i do recall trying out a virtual boy in a store 419353;1386869297;nubbins`;and it made my brain feel weird 419354;1386869304;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 17905 @ 0.001 = 17.905 BTC 419355;1386869324;asciilifeform;i actually wore a 3d visor for work, some years ago, for a rather long time. you get used to it. 419356;1386869357;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform if i recall correctly the actual retina resolution one inchfrom the eye is something like 6k x 5k or so ? 419357;1386869362;asciilifeform;2d cursor gets annoying though 419358;1386869364;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1023 @ 0.001 = 1.023 BTC {2} 419359;1386869365;asciilifeform;about right. 419360;1386869388;pigeons;here it is, althought i never understood the mybitcoin accusation other than knowing shane smith of niamianogold http://www.hackcanada.com/canadian/zines/k_1ine/K-1ine_34.txt 419361;1386869389;asciilifeform;although you have to account for most of the 'pixels' being around the center. 419362;1386869409;mircea_popescu;i wonder which happens first : glass at 6k dpi or neural interfacing 419363;1386869431;asciilifeform;6k 'glass' already happened, in the '90s. it just isn't priced for humans. 419364;1386869441;nubbins`;^ 419365;1386869444;mircea_popescu;neural intefacing also already happened in that sense 419366;1386869457;mircea_popescu;for that matter, cellphones happened in the 60s 419367;1386869463;asciilifeform;afaik state of the art neural is 'brain joystick' for wheelchair 419368;1386869472;mircea_popescu;nah 419369;1386869476;asciilifeform;and that 100 pixel 'eye' for the blind 419370;1386869484;nubbins`;meh, just attach an iphone to a headband. 419371;1386869487;the20year;They had 2 meter radio to phone interfaces in the 50s 419372;1386869512;nubbins`;super high res, use the back camera to provide a passthru so you can walk while using it 419373;1386869523;nubbins`;front camera tracks eye movement 419374;1386869527;asciilifeform;the real 'magic' in modern cell phone isn't the miniature handset, but the phased array antennae on the stations. 419375;1386869540;asciilifeform;descended from cold war era 'pyramid' radars in the arctic. 419376;1386869547;mircea_popescu;this is a point. 419377;1386869550;the20year;I don't understand how that's magic 419378;1386869581;nubbins`;go read up on antenna theory, then 419379;1386869590;asciilifeform;the20year: without phased array, you can't have anything like the subscriber density of today 419380;1386869591;the20year;I had to to get my radio license 419381;1386869599;the20year;I still don't see how it's magic 419382;1386869603;asciilifeform;essentially you 'move' and 'rotate' an antenna without actually moving anything 419383;1386869607;mircea_popescu;the20year it's one thing to make one connection work 419384;1386869608;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2136 @ 0.00009026 = 0.1928 BTC [-] {4} 419385;1386869609;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 60 @ 0.28397253 = 17.0384 BTC [-] {14} 419386;1386869610;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 180 @ 0.001 = 0.18 BTC 419387;1386869611;nubbins`;sorry, i'm just being saucy 419388;1386869615;mircea_popescu;it's another to support a city during mother's day 419389;1386869629;asciilifeform;trunked rf 'telephone' existed in the '40s even. 419390;1386869632;the20year;And my local network still goes down every year during large festivals 419391;1386869641;asciilifeform;and slightly later, even in the ussr. but for top bosses only. 419392;1386869649;asciilifeform;a few dozen handsets per city. 419393;1386869669;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1304 @ 0.001 = 1.304 BTC {2} 419394;1386869688;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform recall the lolphonograph they had on a ship during ww2 ? 419395;1386869693;mircea_popescu;so churchill and eisenhower could chat ? 419396;1386869706;asciilifeform;SIGSALY? department store basement, rather than ship, afaik 419397;1386869712;asciilifeform;one time pad on vinyl. 419398;1386869732;asciilifeform;vacuum valve (!) modem and CODECs! 419399;1386869777;the20year;The earliest one i've seen photos of were the USSR radio/telephone setups 419400;1386869784;nubbins`;one time pad on vinyl!! 419401;1386869785;the20year;I know though later in the 50s the US had a consumer model, well , sort of consumer 419402;1386869791;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 13 @ 0.04999979 = 0.65 BTC [+] {4} 419403;1386869793;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 11970 @ 0.001 = 11.97 BTC 419404;1386869794;nubbins`;imagine scratching that 419405;1386869794;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform "One was installed in a ship and followed General Douglas MacArthur during his South Pacific campaigns. In total during WW2, the system supported about 3,000 high-level telephone conferences." 419406;1386869798;asciilifeform;aha. 419407;1386869852;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 6 @ 0.05 = 0.3 BTC [+] 419408;1386869953;asciilifeform;http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9b/PAVE_PAWS_Radar_Clear_AFS_Alaska.jpg 419409;1386869974;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [7C] 92 @ 0.0077 = 0.7084 BTC 419410;1386869975;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.05 = 0.15 BTC {2} 419411;1386869978;asciilifeform;the folks who built these were laid off, and a decade later, popular cell phones. 419412;1386869987;thestringpuller;people are actually buying SFI?!?!?!?!? 419413;1386869988;thestringpuller;dude 419414;1386869995;thestringpuller;that's worse than going bearish on the market 419415;1386870022;mircea_popescu;thestringpuller all this btc noobs keep buying for fiat has to return to sane hands somehow. 419416;1386870022;Gotyawallet;? 419417;1386870090;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: i imagine quite a bit of it goes to scrapyards, with old hard disks. and to malware artists. 419418;1386870144;asciilifeform;encrypted wallet on a winblows machine might as well be plaintext. 419419;1386870183;asciilifeform;(artist patches exe so the very next transaction is, instead of X btc to addr Y, 'everything in wallet to addr Z.') 419420;1386870214;nubbins`;the best part about leaving windows behind is being able to say "sorry, i don't know anything about that shit" when asked to troubleshoot computer problems for family members 419421;1386870263;asciilifeform;can't wait until somebody starts selling 'magic' miners that diddle the system bus to make this happen. 419422;1386870311;asciilifeform;how many people buying graphics cards for ltc mining have disassembled the firmware... 419423;1386870366;the20year;That sigsaly article is amazing 419424;1386870366;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 419425;1386870367;nubbins`;i can't wait until the first malicious fake trezors hit the streets. 419426;1386870377;asciilifeform;wat's a trezor 419427;1386870391;nubbins`;http://www.bitcointrezor.com/ 419428;1386870392;ozbot;TREZOR The Bitcoin Safe 419429;1386870395;nubbins`;hardware wallet 419430;1386870413;nubbins`;that you're supposed to plug into the POS at the store you're visiting 419431;1386870419;asciilifeform;"For the love of God, Montrezor!" 419432;1386870428;nubbins`;and the store is supposed to just plug it in 419433;1386870428;asciilifeform;http://xroads.virginia.edu/~hyper/POE/cask.html 419434;1386870429;ozbot;The Cask of Amontillado 419435;1386870431;asciilifeform;was my first thought 419436;1386870439;nubbins`;even though it's a goddamn HID device 419437;1386870450;nubbins`;i mean, a goddamn HID 419438;1386870505;nubbins`;so essentially it's like plugging a keyboard into the cash register 419439;1386870523;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 369 @ 0.001 = 0.369 BTC 419440;1386870528;asciilifeform;phun phact: the barcode readers in many cash registers emulate standard HID keyboard. 419441;1386870544;nubbins`;great 'cos no drivers needed 419442;1386870552;nubbins`;ungreat 'cos it's a HID. 419443;1386870592;nubbins`;go to a store and say "hey, can i just plug this keyboard into your POS and type a bunch of commands in? i'll only be like half an hour" 419444;1386870596;nubbins`;see what the manager says 419445;1386870597;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform lol that's what i thought too, when i first heard of it. 419446;1386870598;asciilifeform;hid isn't even the end of the story. you could probably slurp a bit of key via diff. power analysis if you attach. 419447;1386870617;mircea_popescu;clearly our reading is inadequate for the needs of contemporaneous english speakers. 419448;1386870631;asciilifeform;'didn't your mother teach you not to hook strangers to your DC supply rail?' 419449;1386870732;nubbins`;i should design a trezor-looking HID that, when connected, sends "[windows-r], www.mydomain.com/horsedick.avi, [enter]" 419450;1386870741;nubbins`;to the host computer 419451;1386870760;nubbins`;maybe followed by an [F11] for good measure 419452;1386870774;nubbins`;is there a keyboard shortcut for volume? 419453;1386870981;mircea_popescu;chocolate dipped figs! yum! 419454;1386871013;nubbins`;hm, usatoday.com has a btc logo in their header 419455;1386871077;mircea_popescu;yeah we covered it :D 419456;1386871121;nubbins`;ah! 419457;1386871123;nubbins`;oh and hey 419458;1386871125;nubbins`;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2228.msg29479#msg29479 419459;1386871127;ozbot;Added some DoS limits, removed safe mode (0.3.19) 419460;1386871129;nubbins`;satoshi's last post 419461;1386871131;nubbins`;3 years ago today 419462;1386871255;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 55 @ 0.00290454 = 0.1597 BTC [-] {6} 419463;1386871256;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 2810 @ 0.001 = 2.81 BTC 419464;1386871378;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.28015829 = 5.6032 BTC [-] {8} 419465;1386871438;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 119 @ 0.001 = 0.119 BTC 419466;1386871463;thestringpuller;IN SATOSHI WE TRUST 419467;1386871501;thestringpuller;;;ticker 419468;1386871501;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 867.59095, Best ask: 875.0, Bid-ask spread: 7.40905, Last trade: 861.25001, 24 hour volume: 12139.28764678, 24 hour low: 839.5, 24 hour high: 941.0, 24 hour vwap: 886.66919 419469;1386871520;thestringpuller;;;market sell 1000000 419470;1386871522;gribble;A market order to sell 1000000 bitcoins right now would net 33179748.9231 USD and would take the last price down to 0.0017 USD, resulting in an average price of 33.1797 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.1238 seconds 419471;1386871527;thestringpuller;;;market sell 100000 419472;1386871528;gribble;A market order to sell 100000 bitcoins right now would net 32207763.4100 USD and would take the last price down to 43.5700 USD, resulting in an average price of 322.0776 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 5.2789 seconds 419473;1386871675;nubbins`;any of you guys own any casascius coins? 419474;1386871804;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00285862 = 0.2859 BTC [-] {5} 419475;1386871911;the20year;nope 419476;1386871916;the20year;i wonder how many fakes there are out there 419477;1386871927;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 4000 @ 0.001 = 4 BTC 419478;1386871928;deadweasel;they're fixin' to double in value again. 419479;1386871962;mircea_popescu;probably lots 419480;1386871968;mircea_popescu;they weren't hard to fake afaik 419481;1386871982;dexX7;i heard that there are some cheap already redeemed casascius coins on ebay 419482;1386872031;the20year;no way to tell it hasn't been redeemed before you buy, is there? 419483;1386872048;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 500 @ 0.001 = 0.5 BTC 419484;1386872057;deadweasel;if it's not sweet, it's not real. 419485;1386872059;nubbins`;the20year: well there's a security hologram 419486;1386872071;nubbins`;very difficult to reapply once removed 419487;1386872071;dexX7;haha i was just poking nubbins 419488;1386872090;TomServo;Pretty sure the hologram was proved to be crackable at Defcon this year 419489;1386872090;nubbins`;dexX7: there's actually a market for reeeemed once 419490;1386872092;nubbins`;*ones 419491;1386872095;nubbins`;they fetch around $150 419492;1386872101;dexX7;:p 419493;1386872108;nubbins`;TomServo: they left only minimal signs of tampering 419494;1386872110;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC 419495;1386872131;benkay;analog bitcoins 419496;1386872134;benkay;lel 419497;1386872152;nubbins`;what can i say, i'm a sucker for pretty metal 419498;1386872186;nubbins`;and also 419499;1386872189;dexX7;http://codinginmysleep.com/casascius-physical-bitcoins-cracked-at-defcon/ 419500;1386872190;ozbot;Casascius Physical Bitcoins Cracked at Defcon - Coding In My Sleep - A Bitcoin Blog 419501;1386872192;nubbins`;there literally are chocolate bitcoins on ebay 419502;1386872209;dexX7;lol 419503;1386872218;nubbins`;http://www.ebay.ca/itm/3-Bitcoin-Chocolate-Gold-Foil-Coins-NO-BTC-VALUE-Casascius-1-Liberty-Coin-Bonus-/281223420095?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item417a38d8bf&_uhb=1 419504;1386872219;ozbot;3 Bitcoin Chocolate Gold Foil Coins NO BTC Value Casascius $1 Liberty Coin Bonus | eBay 419505;1386872236;nubbins`;actually not a bad gift idea 419506;1386872237;nubbins`;heh 419507;1386872240;the20year;nice 419508;1386872262;deadweasel;holy shit I wasn't kidding 419509;1386872282;dexX7;the video xD 419510;1386872417;dexX7;the line was interesting imho: "If he doesn’t verify or have a way of knowing whether the owner of the bitcoins is the same person he’s sending the coins to, that’s a problem ..." 419511;1386872468;benkay;giving bitcoins this way is just the most goddamn stupid idea 419512;1386872490;benkay;it's like trading wallets 419513;1386872499;benkay;or trying to sell an MPEx account 419514;1386872528;benkay;posesser of the keys is posesser of the goods 419515;1386872528;Bugpowder;http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2428278,00.asp 419516;1386872557;Bugpowder;Coinbase got a $25M Series B 419517;1386872566;benkay;on the topic of greater fool theory, the fundamental principle underlying these physical coins and the entire fartup circuit 419518;1386872576;TomServo;ozbot: what gives? 419519;1386872593;nubbins`;dexX7: seems like a roundabout way of laundering. why not just send the raw btc? :P 419520;1386872623;dexX7;because there is no direct link between the coins 419521;1386872631;dexX7;btct for example was an awesome way to launder coins 419522;1386872639;mircea_popescu;Bugpowder yeah it was here earlier. 419523;1386872644;Bugpowder;nice 419524;1386872659;Bugpowder;anyone know the valuation? 419525;1386872659;dexX7;same here.. insert coin A, get unrealted coin B out 419526;1386872670;dexX7;(besides the paper and shipping docs) 419527;1386872674;mircea_popescu;benkay honestly, it was a reasonably nice way to get people introduced to btc, back in 2011. 419528;1386872695;benkay;i suppose, at the cost of perpetuating idiot opsec. 419529;1386872701;mircea_popescu;i don't think anyone took it for more than that. caldwell was making a few cents here and there with it, but not worth his time 419530;1386872719;benkay;had to reprimand someone giving out printed wallets at a local btc event. 419531;1386872727;Bugpowder;I like the coins 419532;1386872728;mircea_popescu;take it as a publicity stunt, like getting a chick with a nice rack and a mean streak to stir the forum pot 419533;1386872731;Bugpowder;I have a bunch 419534;1386872733;benkay;"are you seriously displaying private keys in public?!" 419535;1386872734;Bugpowder;used to tip with them 419536;1386872746;Bugpowder;Mike did pretty well 419537;1386872755;Bugpowder;he made about 8000BTC I think 419538;1386872768;benkay;oh it's great i'm sure for mike and btc and everything except the whole idiots problem. 419539;1386872769;Bugpowder;Nice Cayanne turbo 419540;1386872784;nubbins`;lel @ mp 419541;1386872798;mircea_popescu;Bugpowder that's misrepresenting the thing. he'd have made 10 simply selling a pizza. 419542;1386872815;mircea_popescu;8k simply reflects the fact that for most of the coin's life, the metal was worth more than the key. 419543;1386872816;nubbins`;ah, i suspect mike kept most of his profits in btc 419544;1386872830;nubbins`;minus living expenses, not sure if he held a day job 419545;1386872848;mircea_popescu;nubbins` the guy was a millionaire before btc. 419546;1386872855;nubbins`;ah yeah? 419547;1386872862;Bugpowder;But he was still making about 10% BTC profit on his sales up till he shut down. 419548;1386872885;nubbins`;well in that case he probably kept every satoshi, less minting costs 419549;1386872891;Bugpowder;its a lot easier to sell $80M worth of BTC than 80M worth of pizza from your house. 419550;1386872922;Bugpowder;His garage does not look like the garage of a millionaire 419551;1386872927;Bugpowder;except for the car. 419552;1386872971;benkay;a real millionaire would spend it all exhibiting the wealth, right? 419553;1386872972;Bugpowder;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=146018.msg1550362#msg1550362 419554;1386872974;ozbot;Most Expensive Thing You Bought With Bitcoin? 419555;1386872974;Bugpowder;lol 419556;1386872994;Bugpowder;A million goes a long way in utah 419557;1386873001;thestringpuller;wait casascius 419558;1386873003;Bugpowder;can't even get you a nice condo in LA 419559;1386873003;thestringpuller;is gone? 419560;1386873005;mircea_popescu;well a real us guy, at any rate. 419561;1386873013;Bugpowder;yes they have been gone since Nov 27th 419562;1386873013;thestringpuller;what happened to casascius coins? 419563;1386873021;deadweasel;they pulled the rug out. he's in the US. 419564;1386873023;deadweasel;MINTING MONEY 419565;1386873025;deadweasel;they no likey 419566;1386873037;Bugpowder;nobody paid attention when I posted it to reddit on the 28th. People needed a wired article to make it news. 419567;1386873045;thestringpuller;that's so fucking sad 419568;1386873050;thestringpuller;i knew he went to whole sale 419569;1386873051;deadweasel;yes 419570;1386873059;thestringpuller;but cascius coins are the only "paper wallet" i really trust 419571;1386873060;thestringpuller;:( 419572;1386873064;the20year;Our average purchase price has been $45k for houses here in Ohio 419573;1386873067;thestringpuller;i guess I have a piece of history on my desk 419574;1386873072;deadweasel;hold it 419575;1386873094;asciilifeform;thestringpuller: wouldn't it be more logical to trust one you've filled personally? 419576;1386873095;mircea_popescu; nobody paid attention when I posted it to reddit on the 28th. People needed a wired article to make it news. << ridiculous, isn't it. 419577;1386873102;Bugpowder;I've got a roll of 50 in a safe deposit box. 419578;1386873110;Bugpowder;yah... 419579;1386873127;deadweasel;damn 419580;1386873133;Bugpowder;Oh well. It's better to know news before others, generally. 419581;1386873135;mircea_popescu;Bugpowder give us the depost box address too and it's all good eh. 419582;1386873137;the20year;now he needs to move to Canada to do it 419583;1386873151;asciilifeform;what's the appeal of the cas. coin? 419584;1386873158;mircea_popescu;the20year if he really wants to do it, south africa is probably a better place. 419585;1386873164;Bugpowder;you need the key and my ID yo. 419586;1386873165;asciilifeform;forging a hologram isn't exactly building a thermonuke 419587;1386873165;deadweasel;you can play with it. rub it on your nipples. 419588;1386873170;thestringpuller;asciilifeform: No because I would be that guy who made a typo. Casascius is more competent than I in that regard 419589;1386873174;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform anal insertion is the only thing that comes to mind. 419590;1386873181;thestringpuller;he had double/triple audits when printing private keys 419591;1386873200;jcpham;if you use it anally it is no longer uncirculated fwiw 419592;1386873204;mircea_popescu;Bugpowder or an executive order. 419593;1386873206;asciilifeform;sd card (or rolled up printout) would be gentler on the rectum, i imagine, than a coin. 419594;1386873217;nubbins`;is there any actual record of someone purchasing freshly-minted coins from a pool? 419595;1386873218;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform you're missing the point 419596;1386873219;jcpham;i have one of those spycoins 419597;1386873225;mircea_popescu;not shoving things up there would be even gentler. 419598;1386873226;jcpham;with micrsd 419599;1386873236;Bugpowder;hehehe… only with probable cause. The gold confiscation in the 30s is just an internet myth. 419600;1386873238;pigeons;fistical dogecoin 419601;1386873252;jcpham;http://spy-coins.com/ 419602;1386873252;ozbot;Blank 419603;1386873252;Bugpowder;happened to one person in the course of a criminal investigation. 419604;1386873261;nubbins`; a real millionaire would spend it all exhibiting the wealth, right? 419605;1386873265;Bugpowder;plenty of gold in that box too 419606;1386873267;mircea_popescu;Bugpowder methinks you got the history muddied up on that one. 419607;1386873268;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 58183 @ 0.001 = 58.183 BTC 419608;1386873270;nubbins`;^ maybe the most lucid display of sarcasm i've seen in weeks 419609;1386873281;jcpham;check the radiopacity 419610;1386873283;Bugpowder;nubbins`: See example : Goat posting his lambo to 4chan 419611;1386873290;asciilifeform;http://www.usmbooks.com/cyanide_capsule.html 419612;1386873291;ozbot;Nazi brass cyanide container - SS marked 419613;1386873291;jcpham;i saw goat bragging 419614;1386873293;Bugpowder;mircea_popescu: look it up. 419615;1386873294;nubbins`;hahah 419616;1386873302;pigeons;they didnt have to confiscate lots of it cause people brought it in but executive order said they had to 419617;1386873307;jcpham;in true goat style 419618;1386873321;nubbins`;anyway 419619;1386873330;nubbins`;who said they had a roll of cas coins? 419620;1386873335;Bugpowder;me 419621;1386873346;nubbins`;ah, yes 419622;1386873351;asciilifeform;it's very easy - wanna open a bank safe box? there'll be a polizei watching, removing anything shiny and yellow, 'at fair market price.' 419623;1386873352;nubbins`;what sort? 419624;1386873354;Bugpowder;basically used to keep me from trading them. 419625;1386873365;mircea_popescu;http://www.leagle.com/decision/193630883F2d225_1237 ? 419626;1386873365;ozbot;UEBERSEE FINANZ-KORPORATION, ETC. v. ROSEN | Leagle.com 419627;1386873366;Bugpowder;Got the 2013 brass 419628;1386873366;jcpham;+1 Bugpowder 419629;1386873371;nubbins`;gotcha 419630;1386873394;nubbins`;i've got some 0.5 brass 419631;1386873424;Bugpowder;thanks for link mircea_popescu 419632;1386873430;nubbins`;a few assorted silvers 419633;1386873431;Bugpowder;also have some 2011 brass with error 419634;1386873437;Bugpowder;a 2011 25 419635;1386873441;nubbins`;yeah, i've got one 2011 error 419636;1386873452;Bugpowder;and a 10BTC silver 419637;1386873459;mircea_popescu;http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=us&vol=294&invol=240 419638;1386873460;ozbot;FindLaw | Cases and Codes 419639;1386873462;nubbins`;almost bought a 25 when they were selling for ~26-27 earlier this year 419640;1386873471;mircea_popescu;that one went all the way to http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/294/240/ 419641;1386873472;asciilifeform;'spy-coins' shop would make a spiffy honeypot 419642;1386873474;pigeons;i thought he was trolling 419643;1386873494;asciilifeform;order the coin/fake bolt/etc. and your address is on The List (TM) 419644;1386873501;mircea_popescu;and for more general subjectmatter, http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/294/330/case.html 419645;1386873505;jcpham;"the list" 419646;1386873513;jcpham;they sell fake bolts 419647;1386873513;pigeons;or talk to someone old 419648;1386873516;jcpham;i missed that 419649;1386873561;asciilifeform;data storage is interesting from the 'what'll the polize do' standpoint 419650;1386873581;asciilifeform;are they gonna search the hundreds of 1980s EEPROMs in my junk boxes when i hang? 419651;1386873587;jcpham;didn't scroll fr enough 419652;1386873600;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform yes. 419653;1386873609;mircea_popescu;they like that, because they can apply for more salaries. 419654;1386873617;pigeons;but eeproms from the 80s will have bitrotted a bit 419655;1386873629;mircea_popescu;even more jobs are needed to iterate the alternatives. great news. 419656;1386873634;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 310 @ 0.001 = 0.31 BTC {2} 419657;1386873639;asciilifeform;'hiring! one fellow willing to desolder 500 roms from Sybolics Lisp Machine.' 419658;1386873644;mircea_popescu;nope. 419659;1386873651;nubbins`;500 fellows 419660;1386873652;mircea_popescu;500 fellows that went to desoldering school. 419661;1386873653;nubbins`;one rom each 419662;1386873666;mircea_popescu;nubbins` ideally they don't do anything to the roms. 419663;1386873677;nubbins`;lel 419664;1386873680;mircea_popescu;making it a bigger problem whcih is more worthy of attention so more fellows can be hired. 419665;1386873695;pigeons;so cynical, eat your cheese 419666;1386873714;asciilifeform;wait till they catch someone burning goodies on CD-R and re-shrinkwrapping the sausage. 419667;1386873722;asciilifeform;suddenly no office supply warehouse is above suspicion. 419668;1386873733;mircea_popescu;excellent news comrade. 419669;1386873735;Bugpowder;mircea_popescu: My understanding of the law is based on the wikipedia page, which specifically says safety deposit boxes were not searched and seized. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_6102 419670;1386873747;mircea_popescu;Bugpowder you should go visit some prison sometime. 419671;1386873760;mircea_popescu;find out the % of people whose residence is based on a wikipedia page. 419672;1386873793;mircea_popescu;that'll certainly be reddit-news, once you publish the SHOCKING results. 419673;1386873810;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: as in, the judge read pediwikia to them during sentencing? 419674;1386873818;mircea_popescu;lol 419675;1386873830;mircea_popescu;anyway, was a case recently, some lawyer died and his fambly opened a box 419676;1386873835;mircea_popescu;found a few golden eagles 419677;1386873843;mircea_popescu;usg confiscated them. 419678;1386873846;pigeons;there was a good espidoe of boondocks the grandpa told the judge, "didnt obama legalize weed?" 419679;1386873862;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: link? 419680;1386873867;mircea_popescu;eh where was it 419681;1386873878;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 237 @ 0.002969 = 0.7037 BTC [+] 419682;1386873879;benkay;can't be having those precious metals floating around 419683;1386873886;asciilifeform;http://spy-coins.com/radiopacity.html 419684;1386873886;benkay;might engender a liquid market 419685;1386873886;ozbot;radiopacity 419686;1386873889;asciilifeform;at least they're honest. 419687;1386873923;pigeons;http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/09/07/rare-double-eagle-coins-should-be-forfeited-to-us-judge/ 419688;1386873933;pigeons;i picked fox cause you know, fair and balanced 419689;1386873961;Bugpowder;Your hedge fund client is using a retail checking account. Rather than use a business bank account, Madoff’s hedge fund put billions of dollars from thousands of investors into a retail account, and didn’t bother to segregate it with sub-accounts. His accounts “exhibited, on their face, a ‘glaring absence of securities activity.’” 419690;1386873981;mircea_popescu;http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/09/07/rare-double-eagle-coins-should-be-forfeited-to-us-judge/ 419691;1386874019;asciilifeform;re: eagle coins: if i'm found with 'toyota' and no titles, receipts, etc. and a dealership whined about being short of exactly one such... 419692;1386874026;benkay;Bugpowder: link plox 419693;1386874030;pigeons;anyway you were allowed to keep gold jewelery and special collector coins, of which currently circulating gold coins were not 419694;1386874052;Bugpowder;http://qz.com/157108/five-signs-your-client-may-be-running-a-ponzi-scheme/ 419695;1386874052;ozbot;Five signs your client may be running a Ponzi scheme – Quartz 419696;1386874066;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform except this was 80+ yeaers old. 419697;1386874076;pigeons;if you fear this is an internet rumor go to the physical archives of a library 419698;1386874084;mircea_popescu;if i were to confiscate all property with broken title that's 80+ eyars old, i would be able to pay for the us deficit maybe even 3-4 years 419699;1386874105;Bugpowder;"What's more, this absence of a paper trail speaks to criminal intent. If whoever took or exchanged the coins thought he was doing no wrong, we would expect to see some sort of documentation reflecting the transaction, especially considering how carefully and methodically the Mint accounted for the '33 Double Eagles." 419700;1386874105;asciilifeform;afaik they do this routinely with ww2-plunder art, etc 419701;1386874116;the20year;most realestate in the US has proper deed records 419702;1386874125;mircea_popescu;Bugpowder you probably need an actual lawyer to tell you what a joke that is. 419703;1386874130;ThickAsThieves;ha i was just gonna quote that part 419704;1386874131;pigeons;the20year: um look again 419705;1386874143;mircea_popescu;the20year most realtors pretend this is the case, sure. 419706;1386874148;Bugpowder;my real estate has a nice deed record 419707;1386874150;the20year;And the title companies? 419708;1386874159;the20year;that issue million dollar policies on title clouds? 419709;1386874163;Bugpowder;Though only 50 years old 419710;1386874164;mircea_popescu;title companies understand how undisturbed possesion works. 419711;1386874189;mircea_popescu;as in, any case over a 80yo alleged "theft" is thrown out of court just like that 419712;1386874198;mircea_popescu;except of course if prosecuted by the all-corrupt usg. 419713;1386874205;benkay;all hail! 419714;1386874218;benkay;praises be! 419715;1386874236;pigeons;well think of the children 419716;1386874242;mircea_popescu;Bugpowder admittedly much easier to do in california and for new developments. 419717;1386874256;mircea_popescu;there are houses in this town that are 500+ years old and still inhabited. 419718;1386874270;Bugpowder;I'm sure new york is a mess too 419719;1386874274;Bugpowder;or boston 419720;1386874275;mircea_popescu;absolutely. 419721;1386874278;mircea_popescu;or even sf. 419722;1386874287;Bugpowder;but why live in those shitholes? 419723;1386874297;mircea_popescu;because we don't like modern man. 419724;1386874305;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 97 @ 0.002969 = 0.288 BTC [+] 419725;1386874306;deadweasel;^ 419726;1386874319;benkay;wait how does that work you have to experience so much modern man in those urban areas 419727;1386874354;mircea_popescu;yeah but at least in the company of 1800s brownstone you can pretend all that grub is just going to go away 419728;1386874422;ThickAsThieves;This guy understands there's a fee to move shares to Havelock, but not to move shares out https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=289730.msg3936404#msg3936404 419729;1386874430;ThickAsThieves;and he wants to know MY logic 419730;1386874456;benkay;man i'm trying to make shit-hitting-the-fan hedges but i think that even small towns that are nominally self-sufficient in this country are so tightly coupled to the rest of the country that they'll devolve into chaos too 419731;1386874465;benkay;wat dooooo 419732;1386874470;mircea_popescu;benkay go to rhodesia. 419733;1386874488;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 49 @ 0.00296998 = 0.1455 BTC [+] 419734;1386874528;BingoBoingo;benkay: Buy as landfill as it is being capped if you must stay in the US. Keep the fencing and signage though. 419735;1386874549;benkay;mircea_popescu: i strongly suspect i won't have time to get out of the country. 419736;1386874560;mircea_popescu;depends when you leave. 419737;1386874600;the20year;Eh , rural areas should do ok 419738;1386874604;the20year;As long as it's a growable season 419739;1386874619;mircea_popescu;the20year fun fact : other than berlin, the most rapes per german cunt happened in the countryside. 419740;1386874621;the20year;My county has enough food during the spring/summer/fall to be well more than self sufficient 419741;1386874638;the20year;During ww2 or currently? 419742;1386874645;mircea_popescu;ww2 certes. 419743;1386874669;benkay;mircea_popescu: i'm trying to suck as much fiat into btc with overpriced us programmery hours as i can 419744;1386874678;the20year;I'm sure a good deal of it was in the stutenland and danzid corridor 419745;1386874680;benkay;mircea_popescu: i don't have the luxury to let my money make more money 419746;1386874717;mircea_popescu;you can only code from inside the us ?! 419747;1386874730;mircea_popescu;what's this, porn programming ? 419748;1386874731;benkay;the biz network that i leverage for work is in the us 419749;1386874741;mircea_popescu;and you talk to them in person ? 419750;1386874759;benkay;generally. sales is kinda high-touch it turns out! 419751;1386874759;asciilifeform;the hard part, as always, isn't the plane/boat ticket, but the destination. most of south america was wide open to ww2 refugees; few went. 419752;1386874782;mircea_popescu;benkay well that sucks. 419753;1386874812;benkay;mircea_popescu: how about a robo-crossbow? 419754;1386874856;benkay;constructs a 3d model of its environment and self trains to put a bolt through any xyz triple 419755;1386874856;asciilifeform;benkay: this one? http://www.atarn.org/chinese/rept_xbow.htm 419756;1386874893;benkay;asciilifeform: but on a turret and with some ml 419757;1386874924;asciilifeform;no need for fancy and new maths, a consumer digital camera chipset would probably suffice. 419758;1386874928;asciilifeform;the ones which highlight faces. 419759;1386874933;nubbins`;^ 419760;1386874942;benkay;and assume straight line bolt trajectory? 419761;1386874955;asciilifeform;for short range, sure 419762;1386874974;asciilifeform;'don't click until you see the whites of their eyes.' 419763;1386875011;mircea_popescu;we should throw some coins in a jar 419764;1386875027;mircea_popescu;to finance a "predict path of bitcoin-assets conversation" computing project 419765;1386875103;asciilifeform;use a consumer 'security camera' xyz gimball for the turret. 419766;1386875131;asciilifeform;they come with convenient logic-level inputs for steering. 419767;1386875281;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1399 @ 0.001 = 1.399 BTC 419768;1386875403;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.29999052 = 2.0999 BTC [+] {4} 419769;1386875486;Bugpowder;Holy 30-yr fixed Jumbo! 419770;1386875490;Bugpowder;up to 4.5% 419771;1386875504;Bugpowder;locked a few weeks ago at 3.875 419772;1386875551;Bugpowder;that is going to put a damper on the housing buble. 419773;1386875606;asciilifeform;know what'll put a real damper on 'housing bubble' ? 419774;1386875625;asciilifeform;when the mechanisms used to keep the tens of 1000s of empty foreclosed boxes empty collapse. 419775;1386875645;Bugpowder;heheh, I don't care about that market. 419776;1386875665;asciilifeform;think from a different angle: 419777;1386875665;Bugpowder;just burn down palmdale and start over 419778;1386875690;asciilifeform;at some point it will be cheaper to pay a paramilitary squad to defend you than to pay the paper 'owner.' 419779;1386875718;Bugpowder;sorry, I think it reality terms. 419780;1386875728;Bugpowder;not bug out fantasy terms 419781;1386875742;asciilifeform;Bugpowder: reality is sometimes made of paper, sometimes of other materials 419782;1386875758;asciilifeform;in the '90s ussr, it transitioned from paper to 'other.' 419783;1386875766;asciilifeform;history, rather than fantastics. 419784;1386875779;Bugpowder;wait WHAT? Noooooooo http://blogs.marketwatch.com/thetell/2013/12/12/fidelity-halts-bitcoin-investments-from-iras/ 419785;1386875792;benkay;daha 419786;1386875797;ThickAsThieves;lol 419787;1386875828;benkay;it was either that or find themselves seriously in the hole ten years from now due to not actually buying the underlying. 419788;1386875830;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.3 = 0.9 BTC [+] 419789;1386875869;mircea_popescu;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=344143.msg3922145#msg3922145 419790;1386875869;Bugpowder;I was surprised by that fidelity thing that it hadn't driven the market up higher…. guess we know why. One person did it and Second Market oversold it. 419791;1386875870;mircea_popescu;herp 419792;1386875871;ozbot;Bitcoin to Cash Hacked 419793;1386875893;mircea_popescu;Bugpowder alternatively, second market is persevering in this "we shall ignore the market and expect to matter". 419794;1386875904;mircea_popescu;but all's good, one day they eventualyl find irc etc. 419795;1386875928;mircea_popescu;or not, i guess. all the same. 419796;1386875941;Bugpowder;I hear teppy moved some of his stack 419797;1386875952;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC 419798;1386875987;mircea_popescu;god that fake dt ipo 419799;1386875988;mircea_popescu;lmao./ 419800;1386876029;asciilifeform;'This week a cluster of VPS that i have been using... ...has been compromised.' 419801;1386876049;asciilifeform;anybody notice how quickly the discussion of 'where the hell do you get entropy on a VPS' began and ended? 419802;1386876055;Bugpowder;dude has a lot of coins 419803;1386876068;Bugpowder;100k+ 419804;1386876545;asciilifeform;the 'mobile phone miner' thing (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=358242.0) is based on an easy mistake 419805;1386876557;asciilifeform;many consumer widgets do indeed come with silicon that computes sha hash 419806;1386876564;asciilifeform;just not particularly quickly. 419807;1386876583;asciilifeform;(search 'digikey' or your favourite local equivalent for crypto accelerators, you'll find plenty) 419808;1386876674;asciilifeform;some costing just a dollar or two. but they won't make you rich. 419809;1386876725;benkay;yes but derp 419810;1386876758;asciilifeform;derp-powered machinery is mighty indeed. 419811;1386876785;benkay;bitcoin runs on derp 419812;1386876786;asciilifeform;(who wants to build an electron spin-valve machine? don't forget to market it as 'derp.') 419813;1386876816;benkay;so quantum 419814;1386876832;benkay;much sorcery 419815;1386876850;asciilifeform;spin valve exists, used in your disk read head. 419816;1386876872;benkay;much engineer 419817;1386876899;asciilifeform;but it was hyped as 'cpu of the phootoor!' in the '90s. 419818;1386877111;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 6945 @ 0.001 = 6.945 BTC 419819;1386877172;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 2000 @ 0.001 = 2 BTC {2} 419820;1386877653;thestringpuller;benkay 419821;1386877660;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 300 @ 0.001 = 0.3 BTC 419822;1386877661;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.05 = 0.2 BTC 419823;1386878087;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1891 @ 0.001 = 1.891 BTC 419824;1386878575;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 90 @ 0.00284506 = 0.2561 BTC [-] {9} 419825;1386878914;asciilifeform;phun phact: 'trezor' machine uses vendor's on-chip TRNG. 419826;1386878916;asciilifeform;https://github.com/trezor/rng-test 419827;1386878935;asciilifeform;who suspected! 419828;1386878961;TomServo;asciilifeform: curious of your thoughts on this: http://arxiv.org/abs/1312.1148v2 419829;1386878971;asciilifeform;"For the love of God, Montrezor!" 419830;1386879035;TomServo;(or anyone's) 419831;1386879070;asciilifeform;i kept waiting and waiting for the modern internet crackpot community to pick up 'scalar waves!' and 'torsional waves' crap from the '90s 419832;1386879099;asciilifeform;this crap never dies: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N-rays 419833;1386879115;asciilifeform;and before 'n-ray', we had http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirlian_photography 419834;1386879123;asciilifeform;or about the same time 419835;1386879163;asciilifeform;then the 'copehagen' QM people finally succeed in resurrecting Vitalism and making the crock of shit mandatory for physics students! 419836;1386879167;asciilifeform;*copenhagen 419837;1386879185;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 434 @ 0.001 = 0.434 BTC 419838;1386879295;asciilifeform;https://github.com/trezor/rng-test/blob/master/dev_random_1.dieharder 419839;1386879312;asciilifeform;the leper's bell rings. you can only get results like this if you whiten with PRNG. 419840;1386879344;asciilifeform;(or even straight PRNG.) 419841;1386879348;asciilifeform;try it yourself. 419842;1386879457;mircea_popescu;eheh 419843;1386879459;BingoBoingo;The greatest complaint some people have about their fellow man is that they are worthless waterbags interfering with the television signal 419844;1386879488;thestringpuller;the trezor only uses PRNG? 419845;1386879490;asciilifeform;compare with gold standard: geiger counter. http://www.fourmilab.ch/hotbits/statistical_testing/stattest.html 419846;1386879494;thestringpuller;and they call it secure? 419847;1386879505;thestringpuller;looks like the cardano will be more secure if used as a wallet than the trezor... 419848;1386879511;asciilifeform;thestringpuller: we don't know this as an established fact 419849;1386879515;asciilifeform;but the stats suggest it. 419850;1386879536;thestringpuller;asciilifeform: using a geiger counter for rng? 419851;1386879542;asciilifeform;for anyone who doesn't know, cardano is not a wallet. 419852;1386879558;thestringpuller;cardano is for storing any private keys securely 419853;1386879565;asciilifeform;not any. cardano's. 419854;1386879572;thestringpuller;oh 419855;1386879574;asciilifeform;very specific purpose. 419856;1386879589;asciilifeform;though i suppose you could write arbitrary files to the slate. 419857;1386879597;asciilifeform;with keys, or lolcats, whatever. 419858;1386879612;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 5233 @ 0.001 = 5.233 BTC 419859;1386879613;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.28100001 = 0.843 BTC [-] {2} 419860;1386879620;asciilifeform;but these will be readable to the attached machine. 419861;1386879673;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.281 = 0.843 BTC [-] 419862;1386879702;jurov;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1pesms/trezor_showing_signs_of_life/cd1mo1m 419863;1386879712;jurov;slush's take on the prng 419864;1386879725;asciilifeform;woah 419865;1386879734;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 40 @ 0.28001504 = 11.2006 BTC [-] {5} 419866;1386879795;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.2771 = 2.771 BTC [-] 419867;1386879826;asciilifeform;'Now the Trezor is fully deterministic device...' 419868;1386879842;asciilifeform;presumably this includes the signature nonces? 419869;1386879843;asciilifeform;! 419870;1386879854;mircea_popescu;their spec is uniquely obscure 419871;1386879856;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.2770007 = 0.554 BTC [-] 419872;1386879865;mircea_popescu;so nobody really has a clue what includes what and what anything said means. 419873;1386879889;asciilifeform;why would anyone buy a cat-in-a-sack wallet machine ? 419874;1386879905;asciilifeform;at least with pc you can get pwned for free. 419875;1386879918;mircea_popescu;you may not be aware of this, but 90% of the people owning ANY bitcoin actually do not have any idea what it is they own. 419876;1386879931;mircea_popescu;it may amount to less than 1% btc in circulation, but still. 419877;1386879937;thestringpuller;uh 419878;1386879945;thestringpuller;that's like people who download firefox 419879;1386879951;thestringpuller;and don't know they can checkout the sourcecode 419880;1386879954;mircea_popescu;or chrome. 419881;1386879961;thestringpuller;yea 419882;1386879993;thestringpuller;people who own mac with OS X can go their whole lives owning the machine and not knowing there is a terminal 419883;1386880010;asciilifeform;anybody here get hold of a 'trezor' and pick it apart? 419884;1386880028;thestringpuller;i'd buy one just to see that 419885;1386880039;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7914 @ 0.00089976 = 7.1207 BTC [+] {2} 419886;1386880039;thestringpuller;just like the exploit with the casascius coin at defcon 419887;1386880053;asciilifeform;casascius just begs to be pwned 419888;1386880057;asciilifeform;holograms aren't magic, people 419889;1386880076;thestringpuller;yet that's what most paperwallets use 419890;1386880110;thestringpuller;looks like paper wallets are insecure by default? 419891;1386880121;asciilifeform;thestringpuller: holograms? i thought most 'paper wallets' are simply strips of paper crammed into 'arse safes' 419892;1386880122;thestringpuller;only good as a medium of storage and not exchange 419893;1386880141;thestringpuller;asciilifeform: some people will put a hologram over the private key space on paper wallets to "secure" them 419894;1386880144;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform not delivered yet afauik 419895;1386880152;asciilifeform;a hologram that you buy, right. 419896;1386880156;thestringpuller;yea 419897;1386880159;asciilifeform;from a warehouse with 10,000 of them. 419898;1386880164;thestringpuller;lol 419899;1386880170;thestringpuller;soooo secure 419900;1386880172;thestringpuller;like a bank :P 419901;1386880175;asciilifeform;all quite identical. 419902;1386880188;asciilifeform;why not put some 'scotch' tape over it. 419903;1386880191;asciilifeform;same effect. 419904;1386880201;jurov;i have seen only trezor prototype board, to be delivered in 2 weeks 419905;1386880201;thestringpuller;as I said you can likley debase paperwallets if used for exchange 419906;1386880224;thestringpuller;but for personal use as a medium of storage you can def bury it in your yard 419907;1386880230;thestringpuller;and it's secure in that sense 419908;1386880243;asciilifeform;you can also bury a vacuum-sealed sheet of paper. 419909;1386880253;thestringpuller;yup 419910;1386880262;asciilifeform;no peculiar hardware needed. 419911;1386880267;thestringpuller;yup 419912;1386880277;thestringpuller;the whole "secure" paper wallet fad is dumb imo 419913;1386880283;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 19999 @ 0.001 = 19.999 BTC {2} 419914;1386880295;asciilifeform;required reading for 'seal' aficionados: 419915;1386880298;asciilifeform;http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/Papers/SE-14.pdf 419916;1386880318;thestringpuller;im on a terminal, what's the abstract? 419917;1386880340;asciilifeform;actually, that's the wrong link 419918;1386880370;asciilifeform;http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/Papers/SEv2-c14.pdf 419919;1386880407;asciilifeform;R. Anderson. 'Security Engineering', 2nd ed; ch. 14: 'security printing and seals.' 419920;1386880434;asciilifeform;(short version: seals that one buys from somewhere are of strictly ceremonial value.) 419921;1386880540;asciilifeform;more productive line of inquiry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_unclonable_function 419922;1386880552;asciilifeform;recall the rifle shell sawed in half from ww2 partizan movies 419923;1386880575;asciilifeform;two spies meet, and match up the pieces 419924;1386880586;asciilifeform;i believe the ancient greeks used something similar, with a broken clay pot 419925;1386880589;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00281 = 0.281 BTC [-] {5} 419926;1386880650;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC 419927;1386880791;asciilifeform;someone could make good money selling a means of melting a glass rod over a (recessed) screw head and then breaking it. 419928;1386880835;asciilifeform;perhaps a miniature induction heater. 419929;1386881199;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC 419930;1386881260;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.05 = 0.15 BTC 419931;1386881321;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 10000 @ 0.001 = 10 BTC 419932;1386881327;dub;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pcWlyUu8U4 419933;1386881328;ozbot;The NSA is Coming to Town - YouTube 419934;1386881727;ThickAsThieves;http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/12/5203264/sriracha-shipments-stopped-until-mid-january-by-health-department 419935;1386881727;ozbot;Sriracha shipments stopped until mid-January by health department | The Verge 419936;1386881739;ThickAsThieves;why the squeeze on sriracha dude? 419937;1386881748;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 217 @ 0.00209792 = 0.4552 BTC [-] {3} 419938;1386881809;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 72 @ 0.002 = 0.144 BTC [-] {2} 419939;1386881815;nubbins`;essential chili ingredient 419940;1386881843;ThickAsThieves;http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/12/5204724/nyc-testing-lasers-that-detect-when-people-fall-onto-subway-tracks 419941;1386881843;ozbot;NYC testing lasers that detect when people fall onto subway tracks | The Verge 419942;1386881871;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.27500001 BTC [-] 419943;1386881881;dub;fricken lazors 419944;1386881887;ThickAsThieves;next version lazers will be lethal 419945;1386881892;ThickAsThieves;save everyone the trouble 419946;1386881911;ThickAsThieves;EXTERMINATE! 419947;1386881917;asciilifeform;ThickAsThieves: yeah, why bother with cheap and effective solution costing pennies (big red 'stop' buttons on walls, guaranteed jail for false alarms) 419948;1386881931;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.275002 BTC [+] 419949;1386881938;asciilifeform;hell, put then on the track bed. 419950;1386881940;ThickAsThieves;our make the tracks bouncey 419951;1386881943;ThickAsThieves;problem slved 419952;1386881956;ThickAsThieves;lol 419953;1386882028;ThickAsThieves;dont newer terminals now have a wall between tracks and waiting area? 419954;1386882030;ThickAsThieves;like in airports 419955;1386882035;ThickAsThieves;ATL 419956;1386882085;asciilifeform;afaik in some countries they have expensive retractable cages between the tracks and the waiting area 419957;1386882098;dub;proximity alarms are not new, seems like a reasonable effort 419958;1386882119;asciilifeform;why no one simply puts fire alarm-style switches on the track bed wall, is beyond me. 419959;1386882128;dub;we know that humans are unlikely to hit the button unless its someone they care about on the tracks 419960;1386882136;dub;most wont look up from their ipad 419961;1386882137;asciilifeform;no, the victim pushes. 419962;1386882165;asciilifeform;twist'n'press knob, same kind found on industrial tools 419963;1386882185;ThickAsThieves;what if he cant make it to the knob? 419964;1386882194;ThickAsThieves;or he is a child 419965;1386882197;asciilifeform;what if he broke his neck falling? tough luck 419966;1386882209;asciilifeform;'who do you sue when your parachute doesn't open' 419967;1386882225;ThickAsThieves;pressure-sensitive floor 419968;1386882241;dub;presumably the lasers are cheaper 419969;1386882259;asciilifeform;ThickAsThieves: ever actually been to a subway station? there's probably a man's weight of dead vermin, garbage, etc. per square meter. 419970;1386882276;mike_c;and live vermin. 419971;1386882284;asciilifeform;naturally. 419972;1386882295;ThickAsThieves;you only put the panels in exposed areas to public, 419973;1386882302;ThickAsThieves;with like 25lb 419974;1386882305;ThickAsThieves;sensitivity 419975;1386882317;ThickAsThieves;sorry, babies and puppies 419976;1386882322;dub;because lasers will be orders of magnitude cheaper 419977;1386882358;asciilifeform;it is still interesting that most cities have no ready means of going from 'crowd sees a human in the pit' to 'trains stop' 419978;1386882380;ThickAsThieves;i still think walls are the answer 419979;1386882402;asciilifeform;'if you see a man drowning, and there you are, with a camera, what shutter and aperture settings will you use?' 419980;1386882415;mike_c;subway death / subway passengers < car death / car passengers 419981;1386882420;mike_c;why waste money? 419982;1386882435;ThickAsThieves;well build walls when you byuild the place 419983;1386882437;asciilifeform;mike_c: esp. if you subtract the folks who were trying to get run over 419984;1386882448;mike_c;and track workers, which is most of the deaths 419985;1386882464;dub;they are probably illegals anywy 419986;1386882485;dub;need to feed the vermin something 419987;1386882493;asciilifeform;afaik, this is less - but still quite - true for traffic death 419988;1386882509;mircea_popescu;i should dig up my pics from cairo central 419989;1386882517;ThickAsThieves;autodriving cars 419990;1386882517;mircea_popescu;where they had dug the pits about 1.5 meters deep 419991;1386882521;mircea_popescu;so people couldn't get in 419992;1386882524;mircea_popescu;and people got in 419993;1386882528;mircea_popescu;with kids. with packages. 419994;1386882542;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.05 = 0.15 BTC 419995;1386882543;mircea_popescu;becauyse why not, imrite ? 419996;1386882547;dub;http://www.dilbert.com/dyn/str_strip/000000000/00000000/0000000/200000/00000/6000/400/206401/206401.strip.gif 419997;1386882565;dub;I'm sure the artist has worked here 419998;1386882622;asciilifeform;metro in many places rolls in recessed pits on stations 419999;1386882623;ThickAsThieves;http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/12/5204002/gmail-will-soon-display-images-in-email-by-default 420000;1386882624;ozbot;Gmail will soon display images in your email by default | The Verge 420001;1386882627;asciilifeform;what's special about pits 420002;1386882677;ThickAsThieves;http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/12/5201706/bitcoin-foundation-opens-london-office-announces-australia-and-canada-chapters 420003;1386882678;ozbot;Bitcoin Foundation opens London office, announces Australia and Canada chapters | The Verge 420004;1386882721;asciilifeform;is 'casascius' an organ of 'the foundation'? if not, why does every media turd about bitcoin feature a photo of the coins? 420005;1386882748;mike_c;wow the gmail images. that's kind of cool, and will break all email tracking beacons. 420006;1386882785;ThickAsThieves;or comply with allowed ones 420007;1386882804;mike_c;well, theirs will still work of course. google analytics for email is the only working solution. 420008;1386882906;nubbins`;subways in seoul had mirrors across the pit, on the incoming side of all the tunnels 420009;1386882917;nubbins`;idea being that the train is fastest at that point, making it a favored jump spot 420010;1386882923;nubbins`;mirrors would cause some to second-guess 420011;1386882947;nubbins`;they were starting to roll out the suicide doors city-wide when i was there tho 420012;1386883039;asciilifeform;or simply build separate stations where jumping is officially permitted. hose them down daily. 420013;1386883057;mike_c;plus the rats would congregate there, leaving the rest cleaner 420014;1386883059;asciilifeform;tv cameras on the wall. 420015;1386883155;asciilifeform;my favourite fictional scenario of 'official suicide' is in brunner's 'stand on zanzibar' 420016;1386883170;asciilifeform;where you could pay to be publicly guillotined, burned at the stake, etc. 420017;1386883176;asciilifeform;'attention whores' lined up. 420018;1386883324;mircea_popescu;pay ?! 420019;1386883350;mircea_popescu;the executioner should pay. 420020;1386883351;asciilifeform;pay. story was about a world crammed brimful of humans, mostly unworthy of even a public execution. 420021;1386883354;mircea_popescu;you get free service. 420022;1386883428;asciilifeform;and where smart people sabotaged infrastructure from mere boredom. 420023;1386883463;asciilifeform;http://www.bitcointrezor.com/news/celebrate-day-of-bitcoin-trezor 420024;1386883464;ozbot;TREZOR The Bitcoin Safe - news 420025;1386883469;asciilifeform;'small and durable with no battery' 420026;1386883476;asciilifeform;'never sends private keys to the computer' 420027;1386883482;asciilifeform;except when it runs... 420028;1386883493;asciilifeform;nobody ever heard of diff. power analysis? 420029;1386883513;asciilifeform;'fully auditable software.' -- where? 420030;1386883538;asciilifeform;For the love of God, Montrezor! 420031;1386883558;asciilifeform;anybody else making 'wallet machines' ? 420032;1386883563;asciilifeform;or just these jokers 420033;1386883695;asciilifeform;https://github.com/trezor contains no source for the embedded micro, as far as i can see. 420034;1386883734;jurov;NSA published anything to github yet? 420035;1386883770;asciilifeform;jurov: will publish, with excruciatingly pedantic detail - when widget is sold. 420036;1386883784;asciilifeform;why would you even care to read it now 420037;1386883832;asciilifeform;how do the 'trezor' folks even get away with shipping the damn thing internationally without publishing source? 420038;1386883842;jurov;trezor isn't sold yet either 420039;1386883845;asciilifeform;afaik nobody cancelled the ancient law forbidding crypto export 420040;1386883846;jurov;ask slush 420041;1386883853;dub;probably fairly easy to ensure they dont 420042;1386883855;asciilifeform;but there's a bush-era loophole for published source 420043;1386883872;dub;anon call to whatever us customers gestapo is relevant 420044;1386883880;dub;customs* (kill me) 420045;1386883880;asciilifeform;wait, maybe trezor isn't u.s. based 420046;1386883914;nubbins`;it's not 420047;1386883915;asciilifeform;Czech. ok 420048;1386883917;jurov;asciilifeform: as i wrote several times here, it's made by slush & stick, czechoslovak dudes 420049;1386883921;asciilifeform;aha 420050;1386883934;asciilifeform;i'd be surprised if there are no weird crypto laws there 420051;1386883936;mircea_popescu;well since it uses github... it arguably is eh 420052;1386883939;asciilifeform;wassenar convention, etc 420053;1386883945;jurov;and i'll forward this log to them with delight 420054;1386883990;jurov;i'm actually surprised you found out only now 420055;1386883996;jurov;about whole project 420056;1386884025;asciilifeform;jurov: i'm quite 'out of date' re: 'happenings in bitcoin universe' 420057;1386884040;asciilifeform;given that i don't, for the most part, live there 420058;1386884056;dub;http://i.woofmaker.com/-PhaOjbPRK7R_ovD.gif 420059;1386884100;asciilifeform;jurov: if you know these fellows in person, do ask them why no source. 420060;1386884127;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1924 @ 0.001 = 1.924 BTC {2} 420061;1386884146;jurov;iirc it will be released when it's done 420062;1386884153;asciilifeform;http://cryptome.org/jya/czech-crypto.htm 420063;1386884155;asciilifeform;a bit old 420064;1386884193;asciilifeform;when was 'trezor' 1st announced? 420065;1386884225;jurov;at least in summer if not sooner 420066;1386884229;asciilifeform;ah 420067;1386884247;asciilifeform;interesting how they toured conventions, etc. for ages with no widget. 420068;1386884276;jurov;prolly they don't have mircea to show the The Right Way 420069;1386884284;jurov;*them 420070;1386884318;asciilifeform;i grew up reading about inventors, hucksters, etc. and i always thought it was obvious that you need a prototype to really wake people up 420071;1386884333;thestringpuller;unless the prototype blows up and kills everyone 420072;1386884334;jurov;they needed funding 420073;1386884342;thestringpuller;doesn't anyone remember dr. octavius? 420074;1386884358;asciilifeform;how much funding does one need to build a few keychain-sized boards 420075;1386884370;thestringpuller;asciilifeform: what about asic prototypes? 420076;1386884371;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 202 @ 0.001 = 0.202 BTC 420077;1386884373;asciilifeform;these aren't mining asics 420078;1386884373;jurov;idk... as i wrote, ask slush 420079;1386884381;asciilifeform;where you need $10M just to play 420080;1386884389;asciilifeform;per tape-out. 420081;1386884392;thestringpuller;i guess you can always just do FPGA 420082;1386884404;asciilifeform;'trezor' appears to use a cheapo consumer ARM 420083;1386884420;asciilifeform;$5 or so in quantity, afaik 420084;1386884432;jurov;they sold preorders for 1 and 3 BTC each, end price is supposed to be $100 420085;1386884441;jurov;it has a display, too 420086;1386884444;asciilifeform;https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/579620_213467352125160_890578977_n.png 420087;1386884444;assbot;123! 420088;1386884452;asciilifeform;fairly straightforward 2-layer pcb 420089;1386884491;jurov;so what. do undercut them if you want 420090;1386884504;asciilifeform;looks like there are exactly three active components in there 420091;1386884506;asciilifeform;not counting display. 420092;1386884518;asciilifeform;the arm and two vregs. 420093;1386884536;asciilifeform;let the chinese undercut. 420094;1386884543;asciilifeform;imho the concept is brain-damaged. 420095;1386884555;asciilifeform;at least, as pictured. 420096;1386884615;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 7 @ 0.025 = 0.175 BTC [+] {2} 420097;1386884671;asciilifeform;betcha the thing can be re-flashed via usb, too. 420098;1386884710;asciilifeform;(i see no pads for ROMs, jumpers, or other protection mechanisms in that photo.) 420099;1386884711;jurov;it's supposed to check the image signature before flashing 420100;1386884730;asciilifeform;'it' being? 420101;1386884749;dub;http://www.nknews.org/kcna-watch/kcna-article/?0038638e 420102;1386884769;jurov;dunno really, just what i remembered from their talk 420103;1386884776;dub;worth a read, hilariouis 420104;1386884805;dub;However, despicable human scum Jang, who was worse than a dog, perpetrated thrice-cursed acts of treachery in betrayal of such profound trust and warmest paternal love shown by the party and the leader for him. 420105;1386884814;mircea_popescu;<jurov> they needed funding << right way eh. 420106;1386884860;nubbins`;However, despicable human scum Jang, who was worse than a dog, perpetrated thrice-cursed acts of treachery 420107;1386884876;mircea_popescu;this sounds like chinese/korean reeducation stuff 420108;1386884882;mircea_popescu;o nm. it is. 420109;1386884885;asciilifeform;these folks need to hire a translator. 420110;1386884887;nubbins`;recall some time ago i was explaining that being the son of a dog was a grave insult, then they just start throwing numbers in front of it? 420111;1386884898;nubbins`;"ten times son of a dog!" etc 420112;1386884916;asciilifeform;read the edicts of Ivan IV, etc 420113;1386884919;nubbins`;thrice-cursed acts! 420114;1386884921;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 110 @ 0.001 = 0.11 BTC 420115;1386884922;mircea_popescu;son of over nine thousand pig impregnated bitches 420116;1386884922;asciilifeform;distinctly medieval style 420117;1386884931;nubbins`;srsly, people will read "thrice-cursed" and gasp 3x as hard 420118;1386884943;asciilifeform;or a document like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reply_of_the_Zaporozhian_Cossacks 420119;1386884958;mircea_popescu;nubbins` the byzantines invented inflation, for all practical purposes 420120;1386884964;mircea_popescu;they didn't stop with the currency. 420121;1386884979;asciilifeform;as if imperial rome hadn't debased coins 420122;1386884999;mircea_popescu;there's a slight difference between rape and murder. 420123;1386885008;dub;mpoe-pr could have penned this, its great 420124;1386885019;mircea_popescu;lmao 420125;1386885103;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 200 @ 0.001 = 0.2 BTC 420126;1386885142;nubbins`;"we've no fear of your army, by land and by sea we will battle with thee, fuck your mother." 420127;1386885158;mircea_popescu;that part is so very romanian. 420128;1386885164;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 750 @ 0.001 = 0.75 BTC 420129;1386885195;asciilifeform;i've always thought of 'FYM' as a slavic thing. 420130;1386885263;mircea_popescu;romanian influence in slavic culture :D 420131;1386885347;asciilifeform;https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/529570_217373745067854_1151791403_n.jpg and particularly, https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/399919_248300785308483_2018068197_n.jpg 420132;1386885350;asciilifeform;just the arm. 420133;1386885351;mircea_popescu;https://www.google.com/search?q=site:trilema.com+%22pe+ma-ta%22&complete=0 420134;1386885367;mircea_popescu;check out how many times the "your mother" accusatuive is preceded by a fut form, and how many times by anything else. 420135;1386885469;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 38 @ 0.00281001 = 0.1068 BTC [-] 420136;1386885495;asciilifeform;so let's 'sherlock holmes,' and http://www.st.com/web/catalog/mmc/FM141/SC1169/SS1575/LN1433/PF245091 420137;1386885547;mike_c;it would be awesome if you published a trezor hack with the cardano release. 420138;1386885578;mircea_popescu;mike_c is such a shark :D 420139;1386885583;asciilifeform;difficult, lacking a trezor 420140;1386885590;mike_c;excuses 420141;1386885673;asciilifeform;p. 22. sec. 3.13: boot modes. 420142;1386885735;asciilifeform;'At startup, boot pins are used to select one out of three boot options: * Boot from user Flash * Boot from system memory * Boot from embedded SRAM' 420143;1386885749;Namworld;urgh... people are buying SFI on havelock? 420144;1386885751;asciilifeform;'The boot loader is located in system memory. It is used to reprogram the Flash memory by 420145;1386885751;asciilifeform;using USART1 (PA9/PA10), USART3 (PC10/PC11 or PB10/PB11), CAN2 (PB5/PB13), USB 420146;1386885751;asciilifeform;OTG FS in Device mode (PA11/PA12) through DFU (device firmware upgrade).' 420147;1386885793;asciilifeform;if they set this up correctly: widget will be hard-wired to boot from 'boot rom' section of FW, which receives upgrade and calculates checksum and rsa sig. 420148;1386885957;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 650 @ 0.001 = 0.65 BTC {2} 420149;1386886079;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00089739 = 8.3457 BTC [-] 420150;1386886140;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1221 @ 0.001 = 1.221 BTC 420151;1386887410;thestringpuller;I keep hearing footsteps baby, in the dark 420152;1386887712;thestringpuller;;;google between the sheets 420153;1386887713;gribble;Isley Brothers - Between The Sheets - YouTube: ; Between the Sheets: ; Between the Sheets (song) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: 420154;1386887731;thestringpuller;^- for you mr. mircea_popescu 420155;1386888014;jurov;!t m s.mpoe 420156;1386888014;assbot;[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00088706 / 0.00089102 / 0.00090149 (138332 shares, 123.26 BTC), 7D: 0.00078101 / 0.00085548 / 0.00090149 (3357353 shares, 2,872.17 BTC), 30D: 0.0007725 / 0.00082947 / 0.00090149 (8018791 shares, 6,651.36 BTC) 420157;1386888019;jurov;!t m s.bbet 420158;1386888019;assbot;[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.0006 / 0.0006 / 0.0006 (666 shares, 0.40 BTC), 30D: 0.00045 / 0.00066638 / 0.00075 (47246 shares, 31.48 BTC) 420159;1386888336;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC 420160;1386888946;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 971 @ 0.00089739 = 0.8714 BTC [-] 420161;1386888946;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 35 @ 0.00297997 = 0.1043 BTC [+] 420162;1386889068;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 5000 @ 0.0005001 = 2.5005 BTC [+] {5} 420163;1386889129;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 198 @ 0.001 = 0.198 BTC 420164;1386889130;dub;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lVuhKCYtr4#t=1h04m30s 420165;1386889131;ozbot;Pete Rock -- PeteStrumentals (10th Anniversary Edition) CD1 - YouTube 420166;1386889139;dub;freddy foxx is the shit 420167;1386889190;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 3000 @ 0.001 = 3 BTC 420168;1386889251;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1362 @ 0.0005002 = 0.6813 BTC [+] 420169;1386889373;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 258 @ 0.00280603 = 0.724 BTC [-] {5} 420170;1386889678;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 50 @ 0.05 = 2.5 BTC 420171;1386890227;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 300 @ 0.001 = 0.3 BTC 420172;1386890288;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.05 = 0.3 BTC 420173;1386890295;jurov;i'm falling in love with electrum, mostly its tinker-friendly python console 420174;1386890300;javanomad;;;seen unbalanced 420175;1386890301;gribble;unbalanced was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 8 hours, 46 minutes, and 4 seconds ago: Little Bitcoin icon on the package and everything 420176;1386890349;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 45 @ 0.0023 = 0.1035 BTC [+] 420177;1386890350;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC 420178;1386890471;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 28 @ 0.26551429 = 7.4344 BTC [-] {9} 420179;1386890655;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 30 @ 0.2614 = 7.842 BTC [-] 420180;1386890799;javanomad;;;later tell unbalanced Thanks for letting me know the coffee made it! Many thanks. 420181;1386890800;gribble;The operation succeeded. 420182;1386891029;mircea_popescu;jurov the client ? 420183;1386891036;jurov;yea 420184;1386891047;Apocalyptic;jurov, sounds interesting, i fell in love with python already heh 420185;1386891142;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 200 @ 0.05 = 10 BTC 420186;1386891160;jurov;only bad thing is, if you don't have own electrum server (with its own hefty blockchain index) 420187;1386891196;jurov;then it lets your addresses known to the public el nodes 420188;1386891203;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 6300 @ 0.001 = 6.3 BTC {2} 420189;1386891204;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.05 = 0.5 BTC 420190;1386891249;benkay;ya well one should have ones own copy of the blockchain let's be real here 420191;1386891266;mircea_popescu;ouch 420192;1386891312;mircea_popescu;a well i guess it has no other way to do it if you have no blockchain 420193;1386891386;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 2405 @ 0.00050998 = 1.2265 BTC [+] {7} 420194;1386891429;jurov;could be interesting to find out crypto protocol for blind tx filtering.. if that can bbe done at all 420195;1386891469;mircea_popescu;i dont see how 420196;1386891508;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 2500 @ 0.001 = 2.5 BTC 420197;1386891752;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.14799999 = 0.592 BTC [+] {2} 420198;1386892484;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 500 @ 0.001 = 0.5 BTC 420199;1386892668;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 97 @ 0.00297998 = 0.2891 BTC [-] 420200;1386892728;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.0028514 = 0.2851 BTC [-] {5} 420201;1386892850;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00090308 = 2.348 BTC [+] 420202;1386894009;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4750 @ 0.00090593 = 4.3032 BTC [+] 420203;1386894055;benkay;it's over 9000! 420204;1386895107;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 17454 @ 0.001 = 17.454 BTC {2} 420205;1386895138;thestringpuller;;;estimate 420206;1386895138;gribble;Next difficulty estimate | 1037354862.97 based on data since last change | 894132728.373 based on data for last three days 420207;1386895290;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00090604 = 4.2584 BTC [+] {2} 420208;1386895350;truffles;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZWCPUC_ijQ 420209;1386895351;ozbot;Damien Rice & Melanie Laurent - Everything You're Not Supposed To Be - YouTube 420210;1386895534;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.27 BTC [+] 420211;1386895779;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [7C] 28 @ 0.0099 = 0.2772 BTC [+] 420212;1386896634;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 15186 @ 0.001 = 15.186 BTC 420213;1386896755;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.28499997 BTC [+] 420214;1386896816;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 149 @ 0.001 = 0.149 BTC 420215;1386897609;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.265 = 0.795 BTC [-] 420216;1386897670;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.265 BTC [-] 420217;1386897975;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6850 @ 0.00090739 = 6.2156 BTC [+] {2} 420218;1386898280;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 8 @ 0.119375 = 0.955 BTC [+] {2} 420219;1386898463;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00090798 = 11.4405 BTC [+] {2} 420220;1386898646;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.10255 = 0.2051 BTC [-] {2} 420221;1386898951;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10890 @ 0.00090698 = 9.877 BTC [-] {2} 420222;1386898951;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 497 @ 0.001 = 0.497 BTC 420223;1386899561;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16172 @ 0.00090866 = 14.6948 BTC [+] {2} 420224;1386900171;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3026 @ 0.00090377 = 2.7348 BTC [-] 420225;1386900842;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4874 @ 0.00090377 = 4.405 BTC [-] {3} 420226;1386901757;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 150 @ 0.001 = 0.15 BTC 420227;1386901937;KRS|Gotchawallet;stringpuller you around 420228;1386901940;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 241 @ 0.00297997 = 0.7182 BTC [+] 420229;1386902062;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 900 @ 0.00090289 = 0.8126 BTC [-] 420230;1386902359;Duffer1;http://www.gog.com/promo/fallout_series_giveaway_winter_promo_2013 420231;1386902359;ozbot;GOG.com 420232;1386902388;Duffer1;^ free fallout 1, 2, & Tactics 420233;1386902611;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8942 @ 0.00090229 = 8.0683 BTC [-] 420234;1386902757;jborkl;So seedcoin is going to fund MEXBIt. They are going to funnel bitcoin between the us and mexico as the business plan. 420235;1386902772;jborkl;Fucking genius :( 420236;1386902823;nubbins`;i don't get it 420237;1386902836;nubbins`;they're going to print out private keys and smuggle them over the border? 420238;1386902871;jborkl;Well, as someone who lives close to mexico. They would end up dead very shortly 420239;1386902935;jborkl;I guess they think there is a shortage of ways to get $ into mexico 420240;1386902949;nubbins`;i'm just not sure in what other context it would make sense to have a service that moves btc from one country to another 420241;1386902953;nubbins`;do they even internet? 420242;1386902977;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00090229 = 3.2482 BTC [-] 420243;1386902978;jborkl;Lol, not so much 420244;1386902980;mike_c;i can't tell if their webpage is broken or just really bad 420245;1386902987;nubbins`;it can be two things 420246;1386903081;jborkl;Maybe kidnappings can be paid in btc 420247;1386903465;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4250 @ 0.00090229 = 3.8347 BTC [-] 420248;1386903587;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 374 @ 0.00149824 = 0.5603 BTC [-] {10} 420249;1386903642;nubbins`;anyone here own a 3d printer? 420250;1386903717;mikaeldice;I have access to one 420251;1386903731;mikaeldice;My workplace bought one for us to play with 420252;1386903754;mikaeldice;The makerbot 420253;1386903793;mikaeldice;I'm trying to think of a way to prove that a wallet is on a specific machine 420254;1386903822;mikaeldice;There's an ip address encoded into a transaction, right? Maybe I can have the machine sign a message or something 420255;1386903871;nubbins`;eh... 420256;1386903880;pigeons;no no ip address 420257;1386903884;nubbins`;you could have a thousand machines sharing an ip 420258;1386903887;mikaeldice;hmm.. 420259;1386903892;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 120 @ 0.001 = 0.12 BTC 420260;1386903893;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 623 @ 0.00051 = 0.3177 BTC [+] 420261;1386903907;mikaeldice;I want to make a bet on the strength of the security software being used on the computer, that given the root password and an unencrypted wallet, that still nobody could steal the wallet 420262;1386903908;nubbins`;well, when you say a specific machine 420263;1386903911;truffles;bitcoin hunter 420264;1386903915;nubbins`;how are you planning to identify the machine? 420265;1386903924;nubbins`;by the os install? the hard drive? the mobo? etc 420266;1386903929;nubbins`;all can fail and be replaced 420267;1386903956;asciilifeform;http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1352 420268;1386903957;ozbot;Loper OS » Dukedom for Sale. 420269;1386904027;mikaeldice;hostname/IP.. I'd probably use linux on EC2, then have the machine run a little program that interfaces with bitcoind and gives out the password whenever someone gives it a bitcoin 420270;1386904044;KRS|Gotchawallet;EC2 is great 420271;1386904052;KRS|Gotchawallet;you can probably get it for free even 420272;1386904060;mikaeldice;Then they can login and try breaking past the rest of the security. Or they can skip the fee and break it without root's password 420273;1386904093;mikaeldice;But I need a provable way to show that the wallet is on that machine that they're given access to, or people will yell scam 420274;1386904165;mikaeldice;Each time someone buys the root login, the bitcoin would be added to the wallet for a total pot.. I'd keep it after a month if nobody could break the security 420275;1386904179;mikaeldice;Or maybe I'd just let it ride forever 420276;1386904202;truffles;which ppl will yell scam 420277;1386904236;mikaeldice;People who can't get the wallet, people who think that giving away root access is too permissive and that it's impossible to block root 420278;1386904303;mikaeldice;Maybe I'd throw something up on bitbet too.. that would be fun to watch 420279;1386904305;mike_c;you know, i tried urbit and asked for destroyers. never got an answer. 420280;1386904309;truffles;cant tell if ure trying to fix or exploit :D 420281;1386904368;mikaeldice;lol, truffles. It'd be a test of sorts, to prove the security software out. If it can hold up to an open invitation to the bitcoin community to try to break it, then I'd say it's relatively secure 420282;1386904525;Apocalyptic;mikaeldice, would the wallet be encrypted ? 420283;1386904530;mikaeldice;Nope 420284;1386904546;Apocalyptic;that's a good starting point, otherwise it doesn't make sense 420285;1386904595;Apocalyptic;so you provide us with root access to a machine containing a wallet.dat file with the actual (pubkey,privkey) to an address holding coins 420286;1386904597;mikaeldice;Unencrypted, open SSH port, and optionally pay for a valid root login. The payment gets added to the same wallet hosted on the server 420287;1386904657;mikaeldice;But I need a way to prove that the wallet is there 420288;1386904666;Apocalyptic;any hardware firewall ? 420289;1386904690;mikaeldice;EC2's security groupings on ports other than 80 and 22 420290;1386904710;Apocalyptic;software firewall ? 420291;1386904721;mikaeldice;Nah, I could disable iptables 420292;1386904728;Apocalyptic;ok 420293;1386904737;mikaeldice;I'd even make a little webapp that interacts with bitcoind so there's another vector for attack 420294;1386904787;Apocalyptic;"try breaking past the rest of the security" // i guess figuring this out is a part of the challenge 420295;1386904807;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6958 @ 0.00090229 = 6.2781 BTC [-] 420296;1386904809;mikaeldice;Yep, but I'll give you a hint, it involves kernel level protection 420297;1386904834;Apocalyptic;yum 420298;1386904847;Apocalyptic;so you built a custom kernel ? 420299;1386904850;kakobrekla;something unhackable this week does not mean unhackable 420300;1386904859;Apocalyptic;indeed kako 420301;1386904898;mikaeldice;Nope, it'll use a standard linux kernel.. probably a major service pack version of either centos or ubuntu 420302;1386904928;mikaeldice;kakobrekla, I'd leave it up for a month or so, maybe longer. A minimum of a month 420303;1386904929;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10250 @ 0.00089889 = 9.2136 BTC [-] 420304;1386904930;Apocalyptic;cause if you disable file access by inode to this wallet.dat file on the kernel level, there's no much we can or anyone do 420305;1386904959;mikaeldice;There will be conditional access allowed, or the webapp won't work 420306;1386904966;Apocalyptic;obviously 420307;1386904991;mikaeldice;But yeah, it would be kernel level protection of that sort, Apocalyptic 420308;1386905010;Apocalyptic;you will have a couple of challengers then :) 420309;1386905026;Apocalyptic;btc initial pot ? 420310;1386905043;mikaeldice;I'm not sure.. probably 1 BTC to start with, plus whatever challengers throw in 420311;1386905128;kakobrekla;you need liek 100 btc to get any srs traction 420312;1386905161;nubbins`;or offer like 1000 free tries 420313;1386905167;Apocalyptic;what about to say it's kinda low to be worth serious people's time 420314;1386905169;mikaeldice;I don't have that to throw around. But I could probably start a bitbet for spectators who don't have access. 420315;1386905186;mikaeldice;Well, there are unlimited free tries if you want to break SSH login as well 420316;1386905190;mikaeldice;or break the webapp 420317;1386905193;Apocalyptic;but 100 is maybe a bit much 420318;1386905194;nubbins`;heh 420319;1386905194;kakobrekla;i doubt it would get approved cause you can play it 420320;1386905203;Apocalyptic;I say 10 BTC is decent 420321;1386905225;mikaeldice;I'd be keeping a keylogger record of everything so I can see how it's broken if it is broken. Maybe I could throw that up on the webapp for spectators 420322;1386905238;Apocalyptic;only at the end then 420323;1386905254;Apocalyptic;or others might pick up ideas/current progressions of competitors 420324;1386905264;mikaeldice;hmm, true 420325;1386905295;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.10319999 BTC [+] 420326;1386905326;mikaeldice;But to go back to the original problem, I need a way to prove that the wallet is there to begin with 420327;1386905366;mikaeldice;Maybe the webapp can sign a message every hour or something, but I don't know if that'll include the IP address where the message was signed 420328;1386905452;Apocalyptic;well mikaeldice, the bad news is the first broadcast IP can be easily spoofed 420329;1386905607;Apocalyptic;I think you don't really have a way to proove it's their 420330;1386905613;Apocalyptic;*there 420331;1386905656;mikaeldice;Maybe I could have the initial 1 BTC held in escrow, to be given to someone who can force the webapp to display their own bitcoin address 420332;1386905661;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9348 @ 0.00089785 = 8.3931 BTC [-] {2} 420333;1386905744;mikaeldice;and if they can do that, they can grab the whole pot. Or the whole pot could be held in escrow 420334;1386905793;Apocalyptic;but why couple this with a running bitcoind on the server then ? 420335;1386905836;Apocalyptic;it's not the actual challenge, is it ? you're trying to prove you security system 420336;1386905841;mikaeldice;I dunno, the excitement of it. I want to show that a hot wallet can be secured 420337;1386905861;Apocalyptic;just create a file with a randomhash and secure that 420338;1386905875;Apocalyptic;the one with the knownledge of the hash can claim the btc price 420339;1386905922;Apocalyptic;it's the hotwallet problem reduced to a more convenient layout 420340;1386905951;mikaeldice;true, but it lacks a certain panache.. I'd like to see a hot wallet sitting on a server with open root access for a month unmolested 420341;1386905965;Apocalyptic;it's the same thing 420342;1386905971;mikaeldice;Effectively, yeah 420343;1386905979;Apocalyptic;with a different perception perhaps 420344;1386906021;Apocalyptic;if you really want to do this bitcoind-hotwallet related 420345;1386906069;Apocalyptic;hum by the 420346;1386906096;Apocalyptic;*way, is your security system preventing/monitoring the access to wallet.dat only ? 420347;1386906149;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3882 @ 0.0008951 = 3.4748 BTC [-] 420348;1386906151;mikaeldice;No, it would protect other things, like disabling program execution of setuid programs that have been modified, and access to the administrative program to the security software 420349;1386906174;Apocalyptic;in fact I was incorrect, it's not really an equivalent problem 420350;1386906189;Apocalyptic;in the sense that with bitcoind you have another attack vector to get the privatekey 420351;1386906214;Apocalyptic;they are loaded in memory at the start I believe, so if one could dump the memspace of bitcoind you have it 420352;1386906273;asciilifeform;please bring it on. 10 btc of prize is reasonable. 420353;1386906276;nubbins`;urbit, i dunno 420354;1386906317;mikaeldice;nice 420355;1386906425;mikaeldice;I'd go to 10 if my company would sponsor it, but I doubt they would 420356;1386906438;mikaeldice;I can throw in 1 myself, plus whatever competitors add 420357;1386906458;asciilifeform;what are the conditions? do we get unprivileged shell access? 420358;1386906526;mikaeldice;standard root access, but under restrictions from the security software 420359;1386906538;asciilifeform;root!? 420360;1386906541;mikaeldice;Yep 420361;1386906553;asciilifeform;ok let's play! 420362;1386906568;mikaeldice;root for 1 BTC, or if you want to break into SSH then you can get it for free 420363;1386906572;asciilifeform;it'll be mostly a footrace though 420364;1386906580;iwilcox;brendio: Scamming on -assets? 420365;1386906587;iwilcox;Good luck. 420366;1386906604;mikaeldice;Not a scam.. when I do actually post the competition it'll be on the forums, and with an escrow for the BTC 420367;1386906634;Apocalyptic; it'll be mostly a footrace though // don't be so sure :) 420368;1386906642;mikaeldice;I came here to try to find the best way to prove it's not a scam, the best I could come up with is escrow 420369;1386906652;mikaeldice;I'm open to suggestions 420370;1386906652;Apocalyptic;mikaeldice, so did you count on that ? 420371;1386906661;asciilifeform;also does 'root' mean something peculiar on your machine? 420372;1386906667;Apocalyptic;memdump protection 420373;1386906679;asciilifeform;so the first-comer reads back your disk blockwise 420374;1386906679;Apocalyptic;asciilifeform, i assume it's the standard uid=0 access 420375;1386906680;mikaeldice;I hadn't, but it'll be taken into account now :D 420376;1386906730;mikaeldice;It'll be root with uid=0, but with kernel level protection in place restricting it's access 420377;1386906738;mikaeldice;The job of the contest is to bypass that protection 420378;1386906745;asciilifeform;if i can't execute arbitrary ring0 instructions, i'm not root 420379;1386906749;asciilifeform;and we're then playing with words 420380;1386906761;asciilifeform;but if i can, i win. 420381;1386906770;asciilifeform;or, probably not me, but the first fellow who plays 420382;1386906810;mikaeldice;I'll leave your hint to this.. somewhere on the system will be an administrative user who can access the security software to disable these protections; the system won't allow you to remove the last security administrator 420383;1386906820;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.10500001 BTC [+] 420384;1386906827;asciilifeform;can i execute arbitrary ring0 cpu instructions or not? 420385;1386906839;asciilifeform;that's what 'root' means on planet earth. 420386;1386906870;mikaeldice;arbitrary? No, or it wouldn't be protected 420387;1386906880;asciilifeform;then it's a lie 420388;1386906881;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 4 @ 0.04002513 = 0.1601 BTC [-] {3} 420389;1386906883;asciilifeform;and i'm not root. 420390;1386906891;asciilifeform;just an unprivileged account labeled 'root' 420391;1386906905;mikaeldice;In that case, there would be effectively no user who is root 420392;1386906912;asciilifeform;if you want a privilege escalation 0day out of me (or the next guy) it's gonna cost you more than 10btc. 420393;1386906924;Apocalyptic;asciilifeform, you have one ? 420394;1386906930;asciilifeform;no comment 420395;1386906936;Apocalyptic;thought so 420396;1386906967;asciilifeform;Apocalyptic: why? you'd care to share yours here? 420397;1386906975;Apocalyptic;not really 420398;1386906983;Apocalyptic;was just interested if you were into this kind of thing 420399;1386907001;Apocalyptic;not asking you to disclose anything 420400;1386907003;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3118 @ 0.0008951 = 2.7909 BTC [-] 420401;1386907026;asciilifeform;i do it for a living. 420402;1386907035;Apocalyptic;oh 420403;1386907052;asciilifeform;it isn't exciting or glorious. 420404;1386907068;Apocalyptic;i know some guys working @Vupen 420405;1386907071;Apocalyptic;yeah, it depends 420406;1386907162;Apocalyptic;i heard it's kinda badly paid, for what it is 420407;1386907181;asciilifeform;it's badly paid if you sell exploits as such 420408;1386907214;asciilifeform;(not to mention the counterparty risk!) 420409;1386907241;Apocalyptic;depends who you sell to / where i guess 420410;1386907261;Apocalyptic;russian blackmarket or gov isn't the same rate 420411;1386907278;asciilifeform;counterparty risk is about the same in either case. 420412;1386907289;copumpkin;brendio: hey 420413;1386907298;brendio;whats up you fucking faggot? 420414;1386907305;copumpkin;??? 420415;1386907313;brendio;what you want? 420416;1386907316;Apocalyptic;asciilifeform, what do you mean in this specific case by CP risk ? 420417;1386907326;Apocalyptic;copumpkin, it's a squatter 420418;1386907332;copumpkin;I figured 420419;1386907336;asciilifeform;as in, they club you over the head and take the goods instead of paying 420420;1386907339;copumpkin;the real one wouldn't call me that 420421;1386907361;asciilifeform;or, if you deliver prior to payment, simply abscond. 420422;1386907369;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4008 @ 0.0008951 = 3.5876 BTC [-] 420423;1386907383;Apocalyptic;i somehow assumed in this case of business they pay prior to delivery 420424;1386907414;asciilifeform;then the risk is on the buyer. you could easily sell the 'whore's virginity' many times. 420425;1386907439;asciilifeform;afaik this is actually the norm in '0day markets' 420426;1386907560;Apocalyptic;if you're a well known corp like Vupen there's no much risk for the buyer 420427;1386907571;asciilifeform;sure. 420428;1386907584;asciilifeform;but i'm not vupen. and, afaik, you are also not vupen. 420429;1386907593;Apocalyptic;indeed 420430;1386907625;asciilifeform;nor do i particularly wish to be vupen. 420431;1386907650;Apocalyptic;why so ? 420432;1386907681;asciilifeform;because i'm me. 420433;1386907693;asciilifeform;don't need to be someone else. 420434;1386907950;Apocalyptic;i'm sure you are you, how is that revelant to why you're not wishing to work @vupen eludes me 420435;1386908040;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 11 @ 0.02301114 = 0.2531 BTC [-] {5} 420436;1386908182;nubbins`;how is it irrelevant? :D 420437;1386909748;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 252 @ 0.00297997 = 0.751 BTC [-] 420438;1386909992;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.143001 BTC [-] 420439;1386910175;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 150 @ 0.001 = 0.15 BTC {2} 420440;1386910541;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.143001 BTC [-] 420441;1386911212;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 671 @ 0.001 = 0.671 BTC 420442;1386911456;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 137 @ 0.001 = 0.137 BTC 420443;1386912005;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6195 @ 0.0008951 = 5.5451 BTC [-] 420444;1386912066;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 125 @ 0.00261382 = 0.3267 BTC [-] {9} 420445;1386912249;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 348 @ 0.001 = 0.348 BTC 420446;1386912799;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 44 @ 0.00260001 = 0.1144 BTC [-] {2} 420447;1386912859;kanzure;has anyone made a scrooge mcduck bitcoin pool yet 420448;1386912910;KRS|Gotchawallet;sounds like such fun! much profits 420449;1386912920;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 126 @ 0.001 = 0.126 BTC {2} 420450;1386913156;mike_c;hehe, this must be old. 420451;1386913158;mike_c;http://m.memegen.com/asLC10.jpg 420452;1386913171;mike_c;that was like, 2 months ago! 420453;1386913225;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00285564 = 0.2856 BTC [-] {7} 420454;1386913347;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.143001 BTC [-] 420455;1386913896;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5205 @ 0.00089711 = 4.6695 BTC [+] {2} 420456;1386914445;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7426 @ 0.00089911 = 6.6768 BTC [+] 420457;1386914853;KRS|Gotchawallet;http://www.cnbc.com/id/101270093 420458;1386914854;ozbot;European watchdog throws cold water on Bitcoin 420459;1386914874;iwilcox;;;ident defaced 420460;1386914874;gribble;CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick 'defaced', with hostmask 'defaced!~lakersz@201.209.14.6', is identified as user 'defaced`', with GPG key id None, key fingerprint None, and bitcoin address 1Jpa1EJ5yPceMfpAwGsMfmp7421fYvvomz 420461;1386914883;defaced;shhhh 420462;1386914898;iwilcox;Amazed you find any marks in -assets, defaced. But, scam away. 420463;1386914900;defaced;you really dont do anything with ur life huh 420464;1386914910;defaced;damn shame 420465;1386914969;iwilcox;What do you contribute to society, defaced? 420466;1386914983;defaced;i beat the fuck outa 420467;1386914986;defaced;people like you bro 420468;1386915055;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 87 @ 0.00181371 = 0.1578 BTC [-] {2} 420469;1386915177;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9850 @ 0.00089949 = 8.86 BTC [+] {4} 420470;1386915848;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2450 @ 0.00090058 = 2.2064 BTC [+] 420471;1386916092;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4342 @ 0.00090058 = 3.9103 BTC [+] {2} 420472;1386916336;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.265 = 0.795 BTC [-] {3} 420473;1386916702;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 400 @ 0.0026 = 1.04 BTC [-] {5} 420474;1386916885;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.05 = 0.25 BTC 420475;1386916946;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 126 @ 0.001 = 0.126 BTC 420476;1386917617;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 374 @ 0.001 = 0.374 BTC 420477;1386917618;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00090237 = 10.0163 BTC [+] 420478;1386917678;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 503 @ 0.001 = 0.503 BTC {2} 420479;1386918227;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8458 @ 0.00090126 = 7.6229 BTC [-] 420480;1386919142;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 350 @ 0.001 = 0.35 BTC 420481;1386919594;KRS|Gotchawallet;;;seen stringpuller 420482;1386919595;gribble;I have not seen stringpuller. 420483;1386919604;KRS|Gotchawallet;;;seen yournuts 420484;1386919604;gribble;I have not seen yournuts. 420485;1386919689;Apocalyptic;much strings 420486;1386919736;KRS|Gotchawallet;such fun 420487;1386920240;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6423 @ 0.00089911 = 5.775 BTC [-] {3} 420488;1386920301;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 277 @ 0.0008988 = 0.249 BTC [-] 420489;1386920728;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.0008988 = 2.1571 BTC [-] 420490;1386921643;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.27949598 BTC [+] 420491;1386922009;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 521 @ 0.001 = 0.521 BTC 420492;1386922010;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13545 @ 0.00089893 = 12.176 BTC [+] 420493;1386922192;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 263 @ 0.001 = 0.263 BTC 420494;1386922762;pankkake;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=289730.msg3945826#msg3945826 420495;1386922764;ozbot;[IPVO] [Multiple Exchanges] Neo & Bee - LMB Holdings 420496;1386922774;pankkake;seriously I am the only one WTFing? 420497;1386922784;pankkake;he sent me a nonsensical PM too 420498;1386922802;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.26500001 BTC [-] 420499;1386922816;pankkake;they must have some interesting drugs in Cyprus 420500;1386922924;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.05 = 0.25 BTC 420501;1386923158;BingoBoingo;pankkake: Seriously case number 1 for outsourcing communications on bitcointalk is the potential to reveal your enterprise is actually just a couple of dudes playing on the forums for 20+ hours a day. 420502;1386923225;pankkake;he seems to have recruited people actually 420503;1386923237;KRS|Gotchawallet;but thanks for sharing 420504;1386923239;pankkake;which is better than, say, kSLAUTHER only recruiting his family 420505;1386923248;KRS|Gotchawallet;oop nvm 420506;1386923284;BingoBoingo;pankkake: In that sense though Labcoin also "recruited" people 420507;1386923290;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 127 @ 0.001 = 0.127 BTC 420508;1386923595;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 386 @ 0.00089893 = 0.347 BTC [+] 420509;1386923656;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 309 @ 0.00089893 = 0.2778 BTC [+] 420510;1386923966;BingoBoingo;I kind of wonder if the end game for Havelock is closure or more of a disintegration into a cryptostocks like ghetto 420511;1386924061;pankkake;interestingly both claim they don't list scams, in some way 420512;1386924079;pankkake;https://cryptostocks.com/welcome/help mentions delisting etc. 420513;1386924140;fiat500;pankkake: kslaughter is an interesting personality 420514;1386924162;pankkake;how so? 420515;1386924208;fiat500;mid 90's he built this 3d strip club/sex simulator that he tried to sell to strip clubs so they can expand their user base 420516;1386924215;fiat500;there are videos of this you can find online 420517;1386924230;fiat500;interesting concept, curious execution 420518;1386924233;pankkake;links? :) 420519;1386924239;fiat500;ill hunt for it 420520;1386924250;fiat500;they only had 1 client 420521;1386924270;fiat500;he then moved on to the filesharing scene 420522;1386924277;pankkake;I only found his weird hosting company on archive.org which at one time was a "buy a hosting business" page 420523;1386924290;fiat500;not sure what website he ran exactly, but he stopped when they raided kim dotcom 420524;1386924301;fiat500;and now he's in bitcoin (probably influenced by his nephew) 420525;1386924318;fiat500;he doesnt strike me as a scammer, but definitely a serial "get rich quick" schemer 420526;1386924369;pankkake;true 420527;1386924496;fiat500;google is no help, if anyone has chatlogs from #bitfunder the link will be in there 420528;1386924517;fiat500;(he volunteered this info and link himself, and was very proud of it too) 420529;1386924523;fiat500;strange considering his age 420530;1386924608;pankkake;I thought he was pretty conservative, indeed 420531;1386924615;fiat500;anyway, he strikes me as a mafioso more than anything 420532;1386924622;fiat500;very interesting character 420533;1386924622;pankkake;haha 420534;1386924631;fiat500;no shortage of those in the bitcoin scene thats for sure 420535;1386924815;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 2692 @ 0.001 = 2.692 BTC 420536;1386924842;BingoBoingo;Sometime late last year, a publication released an article on Bitcoin Barons or Bitcoin movers and shakers that was linked to recently and I can't seem to find the link anymore. Among the listed names were Nefario, Diablo-D3, and Caldwell. It came from a fairly major publication. If any of the aspiring bitpoor are listening on this channel or reading the logs, I'm offering a 0.025 BTC bounty to anyone who can find the link. 420537;1386924847;BingoBoingo;;;ident BingoBoingo 420538;1386924848;gribble;Nick 'BingoBoingo', with hostmask 'BingoBoingo!~BingoBoin@unaffiliated/bingoboingo', is identified as user 'BingoBoingo', with GPG key id 309BB8D7F3251143, key fingerprint ADD7A9A28F85E5EF1F51904F309BB8D7F3251143, and bitcoin address None 420539;1386924893;fiat500;as for havelock, i find it surprising that pico is likely to outlast all of the non-mpex bitstock exchanges 420540;1386924908;fiat500;wouldnt have predicted that in july thats for sure 420541;1386924926;pankkake;did you miss pico being "hacked"? :) 420542;1386924932;fiat500;and yet here we are 420543;1386924937;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1714 @ 0.00089893 = 1.5408 BTC [+] {2} 420544;1386924977;fiat500;the circumstances of that "hack" are fishy, but they ate the loss.. perhaps it is an elaborate ruse 420545;1386924983;BingoBoingo;fiat500: I'm pretty sure being insolvent due to hack essentially makes picostocks the new cryptostocks 420546;1386924998;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5359 @ 0.00089887 = 4.817 BTC [-] {2} 420547;1386925009;fiat500;they are hashing at 500TH 420548;1386925012;fiat500;not quite insolvent 420549;1386925044;pankkake;did they pay the missing dividends? I'm following that loosely 420550;1386925055;BingoBoingo;Hashing at a fixed 500TH might as well be insolvent when (BTC hacked) > 5 BTC 420551;1386925057;pankkake;still they lied multiple times about 100th and coint 420552;1386925077;fiat500;pankkake: why i said i wouldnt have predicted this 420553;1386925198;fiat500;the "cold wallet" being stolen was pretty cute 420554;1386925205;Apocalyptic;indeed 420555;1386925218;fiat500;had to re-read that a few times 420556;1386925223;Apocalyptic;i wonder why he was thinking 420557;1386925237;Apocalyptic;that makes the statement so much legit 420558;1386925239;fiat500;i guess we have greatly divergent definitions of cold :P 420559;1386925242;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 342 @ 0.0026 = 0.8892 BTC [-] {3} 420560;1386925255;Apocalyptic;cold = on my windows desktop 420561;1386925278;fiat500;also the funds were sent to a picostocks address 420562;1386925316;fiat500;i feel like the people who threw money at 100th really just dont want to know what happened 420563;1386925347;fiat500;sort of like when you're sick but don't want to visit a doctor in case its something terrible 420564;1386925413;fiat500;im citing the silence on their bitcointalk thread 420565;1386925484;BingoBoingo;I think a safe rule of thumb for anything BTC is that Mining=Scam until delivery. 420566;1386925490;fiat500;its too bad these guys have to keep proving mp right, wish someone would prove him wrong for once :P 420567;1386925547;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8514 @ 0.00090116 = 7.6725 BTC [+] {3} 420568;1386925564;Apocalyptic;fiat500, some did 420569;1386925568;Duffer1;;;ident duffer1 420570;1386925568;gribble;Nick 'duffer1', with hostmask 'Duffer1!~chatzilla@c-98-232-231-188.hsd1.or.comcast.net', is not identified. 420571;1386925572;Apocalyptic;but these are the exceptions 420572;1386925574;Duffer1;bah 420573;1386925594;fiat500;like who? 420574;1386925599;KRS|Gotchawallet;whats with these dumps someone wants the price lower 420575;1386925612;fiat500;KRS|Gotchawallet: not everything is a conspiracy 420576;1386925655;Apocalyptic;fiat500, I don't remember specific names but if you browse a bit on the forums i'm sure you 'll find some 420577;1386925661;fiat500;btc on an upswing -> makes perfect sense that people will dump 420578;1386925705;KRS|Gotchawallet;i guess 420579;1386925710;fiat500;if there weren't two sides to the market we'd either be at zero or the moon now 420580;1386925718;KRS|Gotchawallet;yea the market decides in the end 420581;1386925723;KRS|Gotchawallet;buying pressure is strong 420582;1386925796;fiat500;Apocalyptic: i will say that this is the most creative destruction of wealth i've seen 420583;1386925802;KRS|Gotchawallet;haha 420584;1386925817;KRS|Gotchawallet;must be U.S. Washington insiders, they're good at that 420585;1386925838;Apocalyptic;fiat, what is ? 420586;1386925852;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6506 @ 0.0008988 = 5.8476 BTC [-] 420587;1386925863;fiat500;we havent even seen the worst of it yet - these resources thrown into single purpose hardware 420588;1386925881;Apocalyptic;oh mining 420589;1386925883;fiat500;with a self-fulfilling prophecy of obsoletion 420590;1386925888;Apocalyptic;yeah 420591;1386925903;fiat500;at least before you could resell your GPUs to gamers 420592;1386925926;Apocalyptic;and reprogram your FPGAs 420593;1386925966;fiat500;mining and derivative mining products 420594;1386925975;BingoBoingo;Duffer1 has claimed the bounty for finding the article per: "Sometime late last year, a publication released an article on Bitcoin Barons or Bitcoin movers and shakers that was linked to recently and I can't seem to find the link anymore. Among the listed names were Nefario, Diablo-D3, and Caldwell. It came from a fairly major publication. If any of the aspiring bitpoor are listening on this channel or reading the logs, I'm offeri 420595;1386925975;BingoBoingo;ng a 0.025 BTC bounty to anyone who can find the link." 420596;1386925989;fiat500;the latter is just as bad if not worse 420597;1386925998;Apocalyptic; mining and derivative mining products // I disagree with the latter 420598;1386926022;fiat500;there is a "well respected" mining coop running now with 10k shares, several hundred shareholders, mining at 700GH/s 420599;1386926037;fiat500;but wait, there's more, the hope is in january they will be hashing at 28TH/s 420600;1386926039;Apocalyptic;i don't see the Deprived's DMS as a destruction of wealth , though it's most creative for sure 420601;1386926046;fiat500;over 24k shares 420602;1386926078;fiat500;this is a "coop" with a market cap of ~1k BTC 420603;1386926110;fiat500;not familiar with Deprived 420604;1386926148;fiat500;but i felt my anecdote was representative of the state of affairs, most setups have similar stories 420605;1386926201;Apocalyptic;did you see dandan claiming some corp is going to announce 5 TH/s machines soon ? 420606;1386926202;fiat500;oh shit 420607;1386926207;fiat500;i remember the DMS thing haha 420608;1386926211;fiat500;that was pure genius 420609;1386926215;Apocalyptic;:) 420610;1386926215;fiat500;how did it do? 420611;1386926233;Apocalyptic;it's doing good, although they have no exchanges to trade them 420612;1386926237;Apocalyptic;so very illiquid 420613;1386926254;fiat500;i made a few btc on difficulty futures 420614;1386926261;pankkake;seems a bit stuck because of ciphermine bonds, but otherwise it escaped unharmed from the other failures 420615;1386926288;fiat500;i envy TAT for virtualmine, that was also genius 420616;1386926415;fiat500;Apocalyptic: what does dandan know about anything? 420617;1386926429;fiat500;just curious 420618;1386926432;Apocalyptic;he was at that bitcoin inside conf in Vegas last week 420619;1386926438;Apocalyptic;heard the dude talking about it 420620;1386926440;fiat500;ah, interesting 420621;1386926523;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 418 @ 0.00260256 = 1.0879 BTC [-] {3} 420622;1386926562;Duffer1;;;ident Duffer1 420623;1386926562;gribble;Nick 'Duffer1', with hostmask 'Duffer1!~chatzilla@c-98-232-231-188.hsd1.or.comcast.net', is identified as user 'Duffer1', with GPG key id D5B0A00741A54A60, key fingerprint 68D283ADB0688306D98C5BE0D5B0A00741A54A60, and bitcoin address 1MHKhfiC7AgZdErt9b8xkXbcKoWSxPjJgG 420624;1386926577;Duffer1;gpg4win hates me 420625;1386926587;pankkake;gpg4lose 420626;1386926591;BingoBoingo;;;rate Duffer1 1 Searches well 420627;1386926592;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user Duffer1 has been recorded. 420628;1386926626;Duffer1;;;rate BingoBoingo 1 does what he says he'll do 420629;1386926627;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user BingoBoingo has been recorded. 420630;1386926628;fiat500;so the rat race continues 420631;1386926689;fiat500;feels to me like just sitting on btc and waiting for competitive mining to bring the price up is a better deal than betting on effervescent hardware 420632;1386926720;BingoBoingo;Prolly unless everyone does it... 420633;1386926761;fiat500;human greed is predictable, lots of people seeing dollar signs 420634;1386926782;Apocalyptic;fiat500, exactly my point 420635;1386926792;Apocalyptic;that's why i'm sitting out this mining frenzy 420636;1386926809;fiat500;those building services around btc will do far better 420637;1386926828;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3449 @ 0.00089957 = 3.1026 BTC [+] {2} 420638;1386926828;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.265 = 0.795 BTC [-] {2} 420639;1386926835;fiat500;coinbase is just kicking ass right now 420640;1386926873;fiat500;1:25 AM Prolly unless everyone does it... 420641;1386926878;fiat500;there are still people mining with gpus 420642;1386926889;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.263011 = 0.526 BTC [-] 420643;1386926901;pankkake;mining *bitcoin*? 420644;1386926903;fiat500;yes 420645;1386926909;pankkake;that's silly 420646;1386926919;pankkake;you can make more bitcoins by mining altcoins 420647;1386926930;BingoBoingo;fiat500: And they've been right beat if they haven't been mining and dumping altcoins 420648;1386926941;fiat500;for some its "supporting the network" 420649;1386926950;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0026 = 0.26 BTC [-] 420650;1386926961;pankkake;they're not statistically significant anymore 420651;1386926970;pankkake;so it's just to feel good I guess 420652;1386926975;fiat500;im not defending them 420653;1386926984;pankkake;I just try to understand :) 420654;1386926987;BingoBoingo;If people want to really donate to "support" the network they can run VPS nodes with walletless instances of bitcoind 420655;1386926988;fiat500;i think they need a math refresher 420656;1386927011;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 613 @ 0.0026 = 1.5938 BTC [-] {2} 420657;1386927017;pankkake;eheh, that's what I'm doing (running a node with good connectivity/many connections) 420658;1386927029;pankkake;+ seeding the bootstrap torrent 420659;1386927040;fiat500;AM's 300MH/s usb miners were the lulz 420660;1386927042;pankkake;because initial syncing is so slow 420661;1386927054;fiat500;i'd love to see some recent numbers for those 420662;1386927058;pankkake;and even sometimes tx propagation is slow 420663;1386927089;fiat500;pankkake: this is something that will hopefully be fixed soon via software 420664;1386927132;BingoBoingo;fiat500: Probably not by the "devs" though 420665;1386927144;fiat500;no i mean by the devs 420666;1386927151;fiat500;last i heard a fix had been specced out 420667;1386927169;fiat500;google bloom filter blockchain 420668;1386927189;BingoBoingo;bloomfilter has been done already, it mostly benefits spv clients 420669;1386927213;fiat500;oh, guess im behind 420670;1386927215;pankkake;I've seen the thing - https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/2964 420671;1386927255;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 285 @ 0.0026 = 0.741 BTC [-] 420672;1386927277;BingoBoingo;Lolz: "gmaxwell commented 3 months ago: Pulltester where are you?" 420673;1386927303;fiat500;pankkake: this PR was closed 420674;1386927319;pankkake;yeah, but I've seen them talk about something similar lately 420675;1386927330;fiat500;right, gavin mentioned it on /r/bitcoin 420676;1386927338;fiat500;but he said it was as-yet not implemented 420677;1386927427;KRS|Gotchawallet;omg 420678;1386927433;KRS|Gotchawallet;almost broke $1K 420679;1386927470;KRS|Gotchawallet;huge buy at mp 420680;1386927483;KRS|Gotchawallet;sorry on gox 420681;1386927490;pankkake;;;ticker 420682;1386927491;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 976.87, Best ask: 983.47268, Bid-ask spread: 6.60268, Last trade: 976.865, 24 hour volume: 14696.92865596, 24 hour low: 839.5, 24 hour high: 990.0, 24 hour vwap: 915.44161 420683;1386927506;pankkake;;;bc,xau 420684;1386927507;gribble;1 XAU = 1226.800000000000 USD = 1.28447281662 BTC 420685;1386927560;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 907 @ 0.00090126 = 0.8174 BTC [+] 420686;1386927743;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12900 @ 0.00089675 = 11.5681 BTC [-] {2} 420687;1386928071;BingoBoingo;My has TradeFortress's forum trust fallen "Trust: -363: -7 / +7(7)" 420688;1386928109;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.27689989 BTC [+] 420689;1386928170;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 33595 @ 0.00008329 = 2.7981 BTC [-] {15} 420690;1386928205;pankkake;added "Went from DefaultTrust to Default" for the lulz, but it's really useless now 420691;1386928237;pankkake;his sent feedbacks were actually useful 420692;1386928292;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 200 @ 0.001 = 0.2 BTC 420693;1386928414;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6650 @ 0.00089567 = 5.9562 BTC [-] {2} 420694;1386928550;BingoBoingo;Maybe pankkake? A distinct problem is that even an actual inputs.io hack can't absolve him of having been CoinLender's operator and primary borrower simultaneously. 420695;1386928586;pankkake;I'm not arguing that 420696;1386928618;pankkake;starting inputs.io was awfully convenient given his other businesses 420697;1386928750;BingoBoingo;Sure. It was also useful for people like Dooglus who had the sense to make TF keep coins on deposit in the event of an Input.io default. 420698;1386928837;BingoBoingo;A problem I am seeing though is that if TradeFortress was the primary borrower from Coinlenders and ran both Input.io and Coinlenders under TradeFortress that this might actually should have been a Coinlenders default. 420699;1386929085;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.26301005 = 0.789 BTC [-] {2} 420700;1386929115;BingoBoingo;Not only could be not manage a wallet safely, he seems incapable of managing a default properly. 420701;1386929207;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00090242 = 5.234 BTC [+] {3} 420702;1386929313;pankkake;so he took the easy route trying to cover his lies about CL 420703;1386929438;Apocalyptic;what was there to cover for CL ? 420704;1386929445;Apocalyptic;I thought all loans were secured 420705;1386929512;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 32 @ 0.26156439 = 8.3701 BTC [-] {7} 420706;1386929647;BingoBoingo;Apocalyptic: These are then answers only time can give us. 420707;1386929699;Apocalyptic;you seem to know more than that 420708;1386929842;BingoBoingo;I wish 420709;1386929874;Apocalyptic;so why are you suggesting it was a CL default coverup ? 420710;1386929977;BingoBoingo;Apocalyptic: Bitcoin problems. Knowing if Inputs was actually a hack or an insider theft (and there was one insider) will require an eventual spending of the coins devlared hacked. 420711;1386930000;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4665 @ 0.00089668 = 4.183 BTC [-] {2} 420712;1386930021;Apocalyptic;oh i think that's beyound doubt 420713;1386930040;Apocalyptic;it was an inside theft like bitcoinica 420714;1386930049;Apocalyptic;question is how is that related to CL 420715;1386930069;Apocalyptic;(aka TF decided to hack himself for the lulz of it) 420716;1386930123;BingoBoingo;If TF borrowed from Coinlenders personally though and Inputs.io was hacked, it would seem paying inputs borrowers with coinlenders funds would be most prudent. They are related through the same operator. i am simply imagining how action should have happened in the most charitable situation, the unlikely one in which there was an actual hack and no relic collectors. 420717;1386930212;Apocalyptic;oh I see 420718;1386930427;BingoBoingo;Knowing whether he was actually hacked or just stole shit because bitcoin is unknowab le except under certain conditions. I'm just rambling in light of how his trust fell, about how in the best case for him his incompetence prevents his handling of this from being the best case, or the second best case with respect to a claim to competence he might have offered or professed to have offered in the past. 420719;1386930684;BingoBoingo;Seeing as how VC n00bs are attempting to rehabilitate Zhou Tong and Amir Taaki, it is probably prudent to establish in the future for these sorts of failure why such things should not be considered possible. 420720;1386930910;Apocalyptic;" Zhou Tong and Amir Taaki" you forgot Nefario here 420721;1386931004;BingoBoingo;Apocalyptic: Zhou and Amir have actual backing. To my knowledge Nefario just has n00bs still seeking backing. 420722;1386931028;Apocalyptic;nope, some VC is backing Nefario as well 420723;1386931040;Apocalyptic;in his recent BTC exchange project in the UK 420724;1386931095;BingoBoingo;I might have to read a bit. Didn't know his new UK project has backing. 420725;1386931134;fiat500;"should not be considered possible." 420726;1386931138;fiat500;what things? 420727;1386931141;Apocalyptic;BingoBoingo, http://techcrunch.com/2013/10/29/coinfloor/ 420728;1386931157;Apocalyptic;"with news today that Passion Capital and Hinrikus, now obviously clued up a little, have joined forces to back new London-based Biticoin exchange Coinfloor." 420729;1386931159;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3077 @ 0.00089562 = 2.7558 BTC [-] 420730;1386931249;BingoBoingo;Apocalyptic: Isn't citing TechCrunch like citing Social Text? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sokal_affair 420731;1386931296;Apocalyptic;i get what you mean, but do you thing this specific info I quoted isn't accurate ? 420732;1386931318;pankkake;what is Social Text? 420733;1386931342;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3473 @ 0.0008949 = 3.108 BTC [-] 420734;1386931342;BingoBoingo;Apocalyptic: First sentence second paragraph "Not least was Passion Capitals Stefan Glaenzer who openly described himself as totally clueless and on a learning mission regarding Bitcoin." 420735;1386931362;pankkake;IIRC CoinLenders became awfully non-transparent, so it was already guessable something was up 420736;1386931366;BingoBoingo;pankkake: The "academic" journal pranked in the Skokal affair 420737;1386931403;pankkake;oh, right 420738;1386931536;BingoBoingo;Maybe it speaks kind of well for BTC that Stefan Glaenzer is willing to throw away Dollars or Pounds (Seriously how long ago was the last time a paper Pound Sterling represented an actual Pound of Sterling Silver) in order to get into BTC. Even if it is a suicide mission for his investment. 420739;1386931645;pankkake;In November 2012 Glänzer admitted to sexually assaulting a woman on the London Underground after police witnessed the assault. He said he was on a "drugs binge" at the time of the incident 420740;1386931673;fiat500;now this is money well-spent http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/12/oculus-raises-an-extra-75-million-to-bring-rift-headset-to-market/ 420741;1386931707;BingoBoingo;"Who hasn't been in a drunked stupor?" to cite the Illustrious Toronto Mayor Rob Ford 420742;1386931830;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 44 @ 0.00296999 = 0.1307 BTC [-] 420743;1386932074;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 55 @ 0.00296999 = 0.1633 BTC [-] 420744;1386932501;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.27399999 BTC [+] 420745;1386932562;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.27399999 BTC [+] 420746;1386933233;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8355 @ 0.00090019 = 7.5211 BTC [+] {2} 420747;1386933782;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11650 @ 0.00090116 = 10.4985 BTC [+] {2} 420748;1386933965;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9964 @ 0.00089929 = 8.9605 BTC [-] {2} 420749;1386934087;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 576 @ 0.001 = 0.576 BTC 420750;1386934209;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6177 @ 0.00089482 = 5.5273 BTC [-] 420751;1386934411;mircea_popescu;anyone wanting to become a duke : dukedom for sale. http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1352 420752;1386934425;mircea_popescu;perhaps a little on the expensive side. 420753;1386934539;BingoBoingo;Sounds cheap for a Dukedom. Expensive for a Dukedom of that though. 420754;1386934643;mircea_popescu;seeing how the modern state has legislated itself into a corner, i don't see it i tell you. 420755;1386934665;mircea_popescu;there's certainly no value in the scraps of an old dukedom. 420756;1386934716;KRS|Gotchawallet;if you become a duke, does that mean you wear a cape from now on? 420757;1386934717;mircea_popescu;not like it comes with the right/obligation to raise an army, administer justice and certify brides' virginity or anything 420758;1386934736;mircea_popescu;KRS|Gotchawallet i thought capes were for cunts. 420759;1386934760;KRS|Gotchawallet;maybe..capes could have been made obsolete too 420760;1386934773;KRS|Gotchawallet;nobody wears capes in the U.S. i suppose if you did you would worry people 420761;1386934800;mircea_popescu;s/cunts/counts 420762;1386934805;mircea_popescu;dukes get nice pearly hats. 420763;1386934846;BingoBoingo;Anyone actually make anything with Urbit? 420764;1386934948;mircea_popescu;KRS|Gotchawallet http://assets3.parliament.uk/woa/woa-zoom-popup/woa-large/2593-1-h.tif << as you can see. they're all dukes there. york, lancaster, clarence, gloucester etc 420765;1386934949;KRS|Gotchawallet;yes a count would wear a cape..hmm. it would be cool to be a duke. i have a friend who became a minister by sending an application and paying a $14 dollar service charge. isnt that weird. 420766;1386934964;mircea_popescu;it sounds like the us. 420767;1386934980;KRS|Gotchawallet;ah yes..and duke of oil 420768;1386935005;KRS|Gotchawallet;eh erl 420769;1386935056;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo they failed to make a strip poker 420770;1386935068;mircea_popescu;kinda the end of it, even z80 had a strip poker. 420771;1386935092;BingoBoingo;Yeah. I figured they would. 420772;1386935150;mircea_popescu;the world has very little talent and most of it is sorely mismanaged. 420773;1386935258;BingoBoingo;It's like how apparently MINIX 3 i supposed to be a big thing when they just made small changes to the MINIX kernel and just ripped the old NetBSD userland. 420774;1386935340;mircea_popescu;not really related tho, from what i gather urbit was actually a from-scratch thing 420775;1386935437;BingoBoingo;Sure, urbit was from scratch, but it can't find anyone capable of actually building anything from scratch. Minix is that ancient thing, couldn't sell textbooks anymore and then they just ripped NetBSD and people still don't care about it. 420776;1386935491;mircea_popescu;lol 420777;1386935556;pankkake;no one cares about netbsd either 420778;1386935589;mircea_popescu;i think that's more of a ltc thing, no one cares but it can't hurt to have around. 420779;1386935606;BingoBoingo;pankkake: Consumer electronics manufacterers love NetBSD. 420780;1386935645;pankkake;well I hope netbsd devs actually understand the code their are touching 420781;1386935654;pankkake;they* 420782;1386935655;BingoBoingo;Want to make a portable DVD player on whatever this month's cheapest chip is? FreeBSD might not support the architecture. 420783;1386935674;pankkake;netbsd makes many claims about architectures, but many are also broken 420784;1386935740;BingoBoingo;pankkake: Well, for the fringe shit where they overlap the OpenBSD implementations tend to be better (Machintosh 68K as an example) 420785;1386935816;BingoBoingo;pankkake: The choice though I imagine ends up to being throw money at code or throw money at chips. 420786;1386935856;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11250 @ 0.00089583 = 10.0781 BTC [+] 420787;1386936014;BingoBoingo;Another problem is people assume "compiles on" architecture X means once compiled works the sames as compiled on architecture Y does. 420788;1386936122;pankkake;one of the reason the bigger ones (linux, freebsd) are the ones running on those architectures: it's actually tested 420789;1386936197;BingoBoingo;pankkake: It isn't quite so simple though. On the popular architectures you get most of the OS choices though. 420790;1386936235;BingoBoingo;Sometime you find somthing like OpenGenera that only works on DEC Alpha processors running HP TruUx under it 420791;1386936405;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00089507 = 4.8334 BTC [-] {2} 420792;1386937259;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3950 @ 0.00089482 = 3.5345 BTC [-] 420793;1386938113;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7650 @ 0.0008966 = 6.859 BTC [+] 420794;1386938662;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00089425 = 4.3818 BTC [-] {2} 420795;1386938667;thestringpuller;BingoBoingo: what is a popular architecture these days? 420796;1386938674;thestringpuller;x86_64? 420797;1386938780;azoo;I recall from few years back that there was a site on which someone could buy shares for BC related companies 420798;1386938783;azoo;anyone happens to know the name? 420799;1386938887;thestringpuller;uuuuhhhh 420800;1386938894;thestringpuller;it's called mpex azoo 420801;1386938916;thestringpuller;the only companies I would personally invest in is S.NSA, S.MPOE, or S.BBET 420802;1386938930;thestringpuller;Asicminer shares are sold on havelock 420803;1386938934;truffles;s.nsa lol 420804;1386938949;thestringpuller;S.NSA already is taking preorders on the cardano 420805;1386938966;thestringpuller;so I mean revenue is sure to come through unless the ipo is bubbling like boiling water 420806;1386938977;BingoBoingo;thestringpuller: I don't know if there is one worth mentioning. 420807;1386938983;thestringpuller;!ticker m s.nsa 420808;1386938983;assbot;[MPEX:S.NSA] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00012 / 0.0001471 / 0.00016 (12171 shares, 1.79 BTC), 30D: 0.0001011 / 0.00011006 / 0.000234 (512079 shares, 56.36 BTC) 420809;1386938986;jurov;what???? cardano preorders??? 420810;1386938993;thestringpuller;"perorders" 420811;1386939012;thestringpuller;isn't there like a list of people who already are committing to buying one upon release jurov ? 420812;1386939049;jurov;if, then is strictly unofficial. 420813;1386939055;BingoBoingo;I have yet to see a cardano preorder commitment regime 420814;1386939059;jurov;there are only shareholders so far 420815;1386939090;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00285248 = 0.2852 BTC [-] {4} 420816;1386939098;jurov;thestringpuller: and just few hours ago i have argued with mircea about advertising 420817;1386939114;jurov;and His Popescuousness said no produc, no advertising 420818;1386939124;jurov;and no preorders 420819;1386939150;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 220 @ 0.002852 = 0.6274 BTC [-] {2} 420820;1386939157;jurov;and no bitbet volume, too :( 420821;1386939170;thestringpuller;we need to make bitbet mainstream 420822;1386939174;thestringpuller;get bookies to use it 420823;1386939179;thestringpuller;then there would be more volume 420824;1386939182;truffles;feels like i just woke up, but it was 10 hrs ago, is time passing me by?? 420825;1386939292;thestringpuller;!ticker m s.bbet 420826;1386939293;assbot;[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.00056 / 0.00056 / 0.00056 (20 shares, 0.01 BTC), 7D: 0.00056 / 0.00059883 / 0.0006 (686 shares, 0.41 BTC), 30D: 0.00045 / 0.00066634 / 0.00075 (47266 shares, 31.50 BTC) 420827;1386939310;thestringpuller;lol jurov you weren't kidding about no volume.... 420828;1386939334;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2418 @ 0.0008966 = 2.168 BTC [+] 420829;1386939371;thestringpuller;http://i.imgur.com/HH9mqRc.jpg - what is bitcoin? 420830;1386939438;pankkake;what is that blue screen? 420831;1386939583;ThickAsThieves;;;g Jeopardy 420832;1386939583;gribble;Error: "g" is not a valid command. 420833;1386939591;ThickAsThieves;;;google Jeopardy 420834;1386939592;gribble;This is JEOPARDY! - America's Favorite Quiz Show®: ; Jeopardy! - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; JeopardyLabs - Online Jeopardy Template: 420835;1386939612;truffles;channel 25 420836;1386939823;thestringpuller;truffl-opa-lus 420837;1386939882;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.0008966 = 0.8966 BTC [+] 420838;1386940004;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.002555 = 0.2555 BTC [-] {2} 420839;1386940005;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.26140001 BTC [-] 420840;1386940065;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 950 @ 0.0008966 = 0.8518 BTC [+] 420841;1386940187;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.0008963 = 8.6941 BTC [-] {2} 420842;1386940369;jurov;thestringpuller: i meant the cardano bet 420843;1386940406;jurov;where i'm so far betting with myself 420844;1386940935;ThickAsThieves;isnt this MP's thing? put money on your delivery if you are for realz 420845;1386940961;ThickAsThieves;or did cardano never say itd be out this year? 420846;1386941157;pankkake;no clear promise or preorder, so he can get away with not doing it… 420847;1386941165;pankkake;ooh someone tried to make a starcraft bet but it was rejected :( 420848;1386941309;Duffer1;what was the bet? 420849;1386941323;ThickAsThieves;;;bcstats 420850;1386941326;Duffer1;mc best protoss or best protoss is mc 420851;1386941326;gribble;Current Blocks: 274671 | Current Difficulty: 9.08350862437022E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 276191 | Next Difficulty In: 1520 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 1 hour, 8 minutes, and 34 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 1052915670.97 | Estimated Percent Change: 15.91508 420852;1386941360;pankkake;:D no scarlett vs. naniwa showmatch (that I didn't know about) 420853;1386941389;Duffer1;oh the 12btc one? 420854;1386941436;pankkake;wow! you're right they're competing for BTC!! 420855;1386941440;pankkake;http://www.ongamers.com/articles/naniwa-and-scarlett-to-go-head-to-head-in-a-bo7-show-match/1100-306/ 420856;1386941440;ozbot;NaNiwa and Scarlett to go head to head in a BO7 show match. - onGamers 420857;1386941469;pankkake;I wouldn't call 12 BTC a "showmatch", though they're probably filthy rich already 420858;1386941492;Duffer1;naniwa's probably doing alright even though he's not as good as koreans hehe 420859;1386941529;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15993 @ 0.00089683 = 14.343 BTC [+] {2} 420860;1386941680;Duffer1;i don't think i've ever seen scarlett play competitively, i saw her casting at homestory cup, she sounds like she knows her game 420861;1386941712;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 36 @ 0.00295941 = 0.1065 BTC [+] {4} 420862;1386941719;Duffer1;and having sc2 players compete for btc is brilliant 420863;1386941736;pankkake;she casted? interesting 420864;1386941744;Duffer1;a couple games only 420865;1386941801;Duffer1;have you seen homestory cup? everyone gets a turn at the mic 420866;1386941833;pankkake;I've been out of the loop 420867;1386941834;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 107 @ 0.00297839 = 0.3187 BTC [+] {4} 420868;1386942566;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 65 @ 0.002979 = 0.1936 BTC [+] 420869;1386942688;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4450 @ 0.00089575 = 3.9861 BTC [-] {2} 420870;1386942746;mircea_popescu;;;ticker 420871;1386942747;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 900.02, Best ask: 907.76569, Bid-ask spread: 7.74569, Last trade: 896.0, 24 hour volume: 16677.20007426, 24 hour low: 839.5, 24 hour high: 990.0, 24 hour vwap: 922.16502 420872;1386942769;mircea_popescu;;;calc 0.2249 * 922 - 195 420873;1386942769;gribble;12.3578 420874;1386942783;mircea_popescu;so bitpay is basically charging 2x paypal. 420875;1386942846;pankkake;what? 420876;1386942874;pankkake;isn't bitpay using bitstamp? 420877;1386942981;pigeons;no they dont 420878;1386942987;pigeons;they sell off-exchange 420879;1386943009;ThickAsThieves;bitpay will charge whatever they can get away with, just like paypal 420880;1386943023;ThickAsThieves;write a blog about the price 420881;1386943028;ThickAsThieves;maybe itll go down 420882;1386943114;ThickAsThieves;get Bitcoin Magazine to let you do a guest post about how bitpay is a ripoff and how that's bad for the movement 420883;1386943136;ThickAsThieves;thatll get Gallipi to pay attention 420884;1386943150;pigeons;heh 420885;1386943153;pankkake;https://bitpay.com/bitcoin-exchange-rates 420886;1386943153;ozbot;Bitcoin Exchange Rates | BitPay 420887;1386943174;pankkake;;;ticker --market bitstamp 420888;1386943177;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 877.0, Best ask: 878.38, Bid-ask spread: 1.38000, Last trade: 877.0, 24 hour volume: 15931.72888633, 24 hour low: 840.0, 24 hour high: 920.42, 24 hour vwap: 878.24983594 420889;1386943225;pigeons;exchange rates is not what they charge you to process your payments 420890;1386943233;Duffer1;that's actually a pretty good idea tat 420891;1386943277;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves i don't care that much tbh. 420892;1386943286;asciilifeform;" 420893;1386943291;asciilifeform;dukedom" sold! http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1352 420894;1386943291;ThickAsThieves;it goes hand in hand with the argument that a bitcoin ebay cant exist without better prices 420895;1386943297;pigeons;well it might be a good idea, but gallipi owns part of bitcoin magazine so good luck getting the article in 420896;1386943312;mircea_popescu;i could just email him omg. 420897;1386943322;pankkake;their exchange rate is moving quite a lot 420898;1386943340;pankkake;so depending on when you click "pay"… you get something different 420899;1386943358;ThickAsThieves;mp, you must make a scene 420900;1386943360;ThickAsThieves;this is bitcoin. 420901;1386943385;ThickAsThieves;hell, email the forbesy guy 420902;1386943391;ThickAsThieves;have him write a half-assed article on it 420903;1386943407;ThickAsThieves;his boss will give him a cookie for the story 420904;1386943411;mircea_popescu;i think it'd rather shoot some bowside snark and let it be at that lol 420905;1386943450;pigeons;heh matonis owns bitcoin magaine too 420906;1386943474;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform wd! 420907;1386943484;ThickAsThieves;btc mag has the branding okay, but the content is really off the mark 420908;1386943506;pigeons;it used to be unreadable, it seems to have gotten slightly better sometimes? 420909;1386943513;mircea_popescu;what;'s the branding, "the trade rag that sucked so bad we had to steal it from the original nuts" ? 420910;1386943525;ThickAsThieves;they cant decide whether to be a source for interesting original btc content, shill, or intellectual/sciences theory 420911;1386943561;pigeons;i dont think they are interested in the content, they seem like marketers 420912;1386943575;ThickAsThieves;the theory articles are often too random in nature 420913;1386943595;ThickAsThieves;like it's a place for their nerd friends to wax about their latest idea 420914;1386943616;mircea_popescu;usg amirite ? 420915;1386943648;mircea_popescu;(usg = user generated content, ftr) 420916;1386943650;mircea_popescu;((ftr = for the record)) 420917;1386943701;ThickAsThieves;http://bitcoinmagazine.com/8696/the-bitpay-boom/ 420918;1386943705;ozbot;The BitPay BOOM – Bitcoin Magazine 420919;1386943725;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 200 @ 0.001 = 0.2 BTC 420920;1386943734;ThickAsThieves;foundation shill shills magazine owner biz, on owners shill mag site 420921;1386943747;mircea_popescu;wait, just 50k transactions !? 420922;1386943755;mircea_popescu;holy shit for all the hassle that's all !? 420923;1386943772;mircea_popescu;nm i take it all back, they can have 6% 420924;1386943773;ThickAsThieves;but they have 10000+ merchants 420925;1386943774;pankkake;note to bitbet mods whoever they are: remove the "" around Scarlett in the title of the starcraft bet, I messed up (but already sent the wager) 420926;1386943783;ThickAsThieves;5 tx each! 420927;1386943786;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves you realise avg purchase is probably 0.001 420928;1386943800;nubbins`;hi 420929;1386943813;ThickAsThieves;hey nubs 420930;1386943834;ThickAsThieves;you listen to Greg MacPherson at all? 420931;1386943844;pankkake;I don't think so. it's a good way to "cash out" your btc without going through the hassle of an exchange 420932;1386943844;pankkake;or having $5000+ transactions alerting the tax man 420933;1386943882;mircea_popescu;that's the most ridiculous thing i ever heard. 420934;1386943905;mircea_popescu;what in bitpay's structure gives you the delusion of tax immunity ? 420935;1386943925;nubbins`;haven't listened to him, nope 420936;1386943935;ThickAsThieves;he's canadian 420937;1386943952;ThickAsThieves;sorta like prairie rock but very blue collar 420938;1386943954;pankkake;for example, in France, any transaction over 5000 EUR gets you tracfin, automatically 420939;1386943958;ThickAsThieves;like The Weakerthans with balls 420940;1386943966;mircea_popescu;BitPay processed 6,296 bitcoin transactions in a single day, making it the most popular day in the history of bitcoin commerce. On November 29, more than 6% of all transactions on the bitcoin network were spent on goods and services through BitPays platform. 420941;1386943973;mircea_popescu;lol that's so cute. 420942;1386944032;ThickAsThieves;can that even be true? 420943;1386944056;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform "The only caveat is that we need KYC on the buyer" 420944;1386944060;mircea_popescu;um ? srsly ? 420945;1386944078;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves it's non-mpoe-pr-style pr. you know, like bfl used to do it. 420946;1386944090;asciilifeform;there wasn't any KYC nonsense when Mr. M (Curtis Yarvin) spoke to me re: the original award. 420947;1386944091;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00089861 = 7.4585 BTC [+] {3} 420948;1386944105;mircea_popescu;but doesn';t this seem a little... strange, so to speak ? 420949;1386944106;asciilifeform;i just emailed him my (not a secret at all) meatspace name. 420950;1386944125;asciilifeform;and he put me on the urbit-dukes mailing list back in '10. 420951;1386944159;ThickAsThieves;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOu6e-_qgKE 420952;1386944159;ozbot;Greg MacPherson Band - California - YouTube 420953;1386944172;ThickAsThieves;good song to smoke anything to 420954;1386944179;pigeons;hope the buyer isnt a terrorist 420955;1386944182;nubbins`;ah, fun, will check it out 420956;1386944216;mircea_popescu;is he moreover using unfortunate terminology to denote "i'd rather know who the fuck the dukes are" ? 420957;1386944227;asciilifeform;sumthinglikethat 420958;1386944234;mircea_popescu;a i c 420959;1386944249;asciilifeform;if you read his original proposals, he regards the dukedoms as an almost literal thing 420960;1386944256;nubbins`;^ 420961;1386944260;nubbins`;odd man 420962;1386944270;asciilifeform;that one day they will Take Over the World (TM) 420963;1386944271;mircea_popescu;i don't take unsigned things to be literal. 420964;1386944293;asciilifeform;but i don't think he had caught the pgp train yet, back then. 420965;1386944295;BingoBoingo;This Yarvin guy seems like he could use a bit of Vitamin H 420966;1386944299;asciilifeform;which is odd, given his background. 420967;1386944300;mircea_popescu;haha. i'm pretty certain they blew their one chance to be part of the taking over tghe world crew. 420968;1386944335;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 117 @ 0.00285044 = 0.3335 BTC [-] {5} 420969;1386944357;asciilifeform;as far as i'm concerned, they blew it when they went with 'userspace process on top of unix' when designing 'ab initio computer'. 420970;1386944371;mircea_popescu;we know of different things. 420971;1386944456;asciilifeform;see also: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/urbit-dev/utp3H7F78so/Dt24fpiT3xcJ 420972;1386944466;nubbins`;they blew it when they required the user to cum in the user's own mouth while reading the documentation 420973;1386944474;nubbins`;(sry if the convo has moved on) 420974;1386944507;mircea_popescu;no, that part is standard fare for computer shit. 420975;1386944510;mircea_popescu;satoshi did the same thing. 420976;1386944533;asciilifeform;and also https://groups.google.com/d/msg/urbit-dev/4B12WpF1rL0/hYF3YPuqvR8J (rest of thread) 420977;1386944858;pankkake;;;estimate 420978;1386944859;gribble;Next difficulty estimate | 1051967296.83 based on data since last change | 1077508662.98 based on data for last three days 420979;1386944862;pankkake;shit 420980;1386944862;nubbins`;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqUE2_TET9I 420981;1386944863;ozbot;BASE Jumper survives terrifying cliff strike - YouTube 420982;1386944878;nubbins`;"Injuries: compression fracture of the T12 vertebra, 5 stitches to the eye, 6 stitches to the chin, severely sprained back, wrist and hand, multiple bruised areas" 420983;1386944915;pankkake;there was nothing left in the brain to damage? 420984;1386944962;TomServo;asciilifeform: what's the 2010 puzzle you're referring to in that link? 420985;1386945006;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 250 @ 0.001 = 0.25 BTC 420986;1386945021;asciilifeform;TomServo: http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2010/01/maxwells-equations-of-software.html 420987;1386945041;BingoBoingo;Favorite part of the second link of that link to that thread asciilifeform "Sent from my iPhone" by Curtis 420988;1386945048;asciilifeform;puzzle was: 'write a subtraction routine' in Nock. 420989;1386945070;asciilifeform;i did it with pencil, but wrote a compiler of the language to test: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=103 420990;1386945072;pankkake;omg neo&bee is getting full shilling from activemining shareholders now 420991;1386945085;pankkake;RIP 420992;1386945113;asciilifeform;something like 20 people (forget exact #) solved. 420993;1386945123;asciilifeform;and then puttered around on a mailing list for a while 420994;1386945143;asciilifeform;waiting for mr. m to write an alpha version of his thing. 420995;1386945189;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5986 @ 0.00089417 = 5.3525 BTC [-] {3} 420996;1386945372;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8150 @ 0.00089442 = 7.2895 BTC [+] 420997;1386945372;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.273 BTC [+] 420998;1386945374;nubbins`;http://imgur.com/dVv1Lkx 420999;1386945374;ozbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 421000;1386945378;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: why is that part interesting? 421001;1386945386;nubbins`;freshly baked sourdough 421002;1386945404;ThickAsThieves;hey thats a dehumidifier rack 421003;1386945436;nubbins`;nod :D 421004;1386945442;nubbins`;dehydrator specifically 421005;1386945452;ThickAsThieves;i still have mine 421006;1386945454;ThickAsThieves;in a box 421007;1386945459;ThickAsThieves;from like 1995 421008;1386945468;nubbins`;i have a ton of them, having broken my first one and purchasing a good one the second time around 421009;1386945491;nubbins`;was on a really big homemade camping food kick the last few summers 421010;1386945576;nubbins`;it's nice -- and surprising -- to be able to pour boiling water into a container, wait 5 minutes, and have a delicious meal that's mot full of sodium benzoate and shit 421011;1386945583;nubbins`;*not 421012;1386945668;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Just seems like an interesting choice for someone who would take to shepherding such a project unless they were already full scheier throwing things out in the wild on orders to waste the time of more capable people like yourself. 421013;1386945677;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.05 = 0.25 BTC 421014;1386945712;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: it isn't like there is an S.NSA phone he could buy instead. 421015;1386945744;asciilifeform;not everyone has the luxury of eschewing cell phone. 421016;1386945779;BingoBoingo;Not yet. That there isn't a great emailing cellphone means though that the cell phone in its lesser forms should be an emailing too at all. 421017;1386945783;asciilifeform;want a browser in yer pocket? take your pick, aipnohe or pwndroid 421018;1386945890;BingoBoingo;I don't much understand the appeal of a browser in the pocket. 421019;1386945916;asciilifeform;browser, mail, etc. 421020;1386945928;pigeons;i really can't use anything without a physical keyboard, waste of time 421021;1386945952;asciilifeform;if you're trying to putter about in the u.s. business world, you pretty much have to be able to receive email in the car, train... 421022;1386945960;asciilifeform;it isn't really negotiable. 421023;1386946034;asciilifeform;can't even buy a piece of junk without a smartpnohe. 421024;1386946060;asciilifeform;i once tried to buy some ups batteries on 'craigslist', then stood about in a parking lot for an hour 421025;1386946070;asciilifeform;turned out, the seller was in a van, sending me mail... 421026;1386946100;BingoBoingo;Ouch. Pawn shop didn't have any batteries? 421027;1386946104;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1854 @ 0.00051 = 0.9455 BTC [-] 421028;1386946118;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: you'd buy lead-acid battery in a pawn shop? 421029;1386946135;asciilifeform;shelf life is ~2 yr, useful life: ~5 deep cycles. 421030;1386946152;nubbins`;the appeal is that you never have to waste a moment -- you can browse upworthy while you're taking a shit. 421031;1386946175;nubbins`;or never have to not waste a moment, if you like 421032;1386946187;asciilifeform;if you buy one, treat it the way you'd treat an ms-winblows box kept around for games. 421033;1386946208;asciilifeform;don't load it with secrets, assume that all input devices (camera, microphone) are logged. 421034;1386946223;asciilifeform;then it's quite harmless. 421035;1386946230;BingoBoingo;Fair enough. 421036;1386946278;nubbins`;man, this sourdough is actually the best batch yet 421037;1386946292;asciilifeform;and if you carry it on the street, or in a car, treat it as a public announcement, brass band playing, of your goings. 421038;1386946310;asciilifeform;(same applies to 'dumb' phone) 421039;1386946572;asciilifeform;the 'dukedom' / KYC thread: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/urbit-dev/PvXo1t7uNrY/ik5e-9b-cNwJ 421040;1386946592;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2678 @ 0.00089901 = 2.4075 BTC [+] 421041;1386946688;pankkake;these hipsters seem to take themselves very seriously 421042;1386946865;asciilifeform;not my problem any more! now some other fellow will have to horsewhip peasants, hang thieves, test virginity, in that dukedom. 421043;1386947095;nubbins`;and a sale is made 421044;1386947141;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5687 @ 0.00090068 = 5.1222 BTC [+] 421045;1386947154;nubbins`;i had a great idea for 3d printing an adjustable-length squeegee handle last night 421046;1386947691;nubbins`;so my bank released an update to their mobile banking app 421047;1386947717;nubbins`;i can now take a photograph of the front and back of a cheque 421048;1386947721;nubbins`;and they'll cash it 421049;1386947808;deadweasel;tits, what bank? 421050;1386947812;nubbins`;cibc 421051;1386947818;deadweasel;oh canada 421052;1386947840;nubbins`;our home and native land 421053;1386947876;deadweasel;would love my Fed Credit union to do that. but they are small an dnice and easy, not technically savvy tho. 421054;1386947884;deadweasel;sorry, dont' know the rest of canadian song 421055;1386947904;deadweasel;I'm a Mainah now though :) Getting CLOSE! 421056;1386947906;deadweasel;lock your doors. 421057;1386948038;TomServo;My credit union has that feature in their mobile app, it's handy. 421058;1386948727;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13132 @ 0.00089887 = 11.804 BTC [-] {2} 421059;1386949045;asciilifeform;twist! 421060;1386949054;asciilifeform;the fellow who bought my 'dukedom': http://www.nostate.com/1364/certificate-of-loss-of-nationality-canceled-us-passport/ 421061;1386949154;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11530 @ 0.00089806 = 10.3546 BTC [-] 421062;1386949177;pankkake;if only it was that easy 421063;1386949276;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 3 @ 0.04499997 = 0.135 BTC [+] 421064;1386949277;BingoBoingo;Lol, and he'd rather have the Urbit than the BTC? 421065;1386949294;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: as you can see, he did. 421066;1386949335;asciilifeform;one of you folks is in slovakia? mebbe say hello to him for me. 421067;1386949564;ThickAsThieves;i figured out the source of these strange emails 421068;1386949576;ThickAsThieves;of people asking how to open accounts and buy AM shares 421069;1386949585;ThickAsThieves;"Your AM100 fund was recommended by Michael Robinson 421070;1386949585;ThickAsThieves;Is the fund still open 421071;1386949585;ThickAsThieves;If so please forward the necessary information" 421072;1386949618;ThickAsThieves;some stock recommender circle named AM100 or something 421073;1386949886;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.098 = 0.294 BTC [-] 421074;1386949947;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.098 = 0.294 BTC [-] 421075;1386950313;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 945 @ 0.00285 = 2.6933 BTC [-] {6} 421076;1386950374;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.094074 = 0.2822 BTC [-] {3} 421077;1386950801;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00089806 = 2.8738 BTC [-] {2} 421078;1386950801;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 10500 @ 0.001 = 10.5 BTC {2} 421079;1386951411;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00089806 = 8.0825 BTC [-] 421080;1386951419;deadweasel;;;ticker 421081;1386951577;deadweasel;$avg 421082;1386951578;mpexbot;deadweasel: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. 421083;1386951583;deadweasel;bot revolt 421084;1386951587;deadweasel;;;next 421085;1386951596;deadweasel;;;shitferbrains 421086;1386952021;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 48 @ 0.0024 = 0.1152 BTC [+] 421087;1386952143;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.05 = 0.2 BTC 421088;1386952204;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 10000 @ 0.001 = 10 BTC 421089;1386952214;jurov;Lol so mike gogulski is onto urbit? Will prod him for you,sure. 421090;1386952326;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 8086 @ 0.00009972 = 0.8063 BTC [+] {8} 421091;1386952327;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00090077 = 7.9268 BTC [+] {2} 421092;1386952387;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC 421093;1386952448;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 11900 @ 0.001 = 11.9 BTC 421094;1386952488;jurov;asciilifeform: you should have IPO'd it on havelock 421095;1386952527;jurov;Although... while i can imagine shareholders dealing with the virgins 421096;1386952540;jurov;not sure about the other things 421097;1386952570;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 335 @ 0.00285 = 0.9548 BTC [-] 421098;1386952875;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 30000 @ 0.001 = 30 BTC 421099;1386953058;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2150 @ 0.00090144 = 1.9381 BTC [+] 421100;1386953485;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1999 @ 0.001 = 1.999 BTC 421101;1386953546;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 19428 @ 0.001 = 19.428 BTC {2} 421102;1386953609;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.05 = 0.25 BTC 421103;1386953790;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2450 @ 0.00090144 = 2.2085 BTC [+] 421104;1386953900;kakobrekla;http://dpaste.com/1503576/plain/ 421105;1386953902;kakobrekla;lulzy 421106;1386954006;mike_c;love btc bizness. same email: "would you like invest?" "would you like to be our customer support rep?" 421107;1386954006;ThickAsThieves;registered msb i assume 421108;1386954156;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC 421109;1386954278;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00089756 = 3.0517 BTC [-] {2} 421110;1386954278;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.05 = 0.15 BTC 421111;1386954400;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 83 @ 0.00255266 = 0.2119 BTC [-] {7} 421112;1386954522;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 30000 @ 0.001 = 30 BTC 421113;1386954565;mike_c;are those curly braces new? what do they mean? 421114;1386954583;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 211 @ 0.001 = 0.211 BTC 421115;1386954780;dexX7;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXK1pmxM3qg 421116;1386954781;ozbot;7 REASONS WHY DOGECOIN WILL BE SUCCESSFUL - PLZ WATCH AND DONATE, POOR SHIBE NEEDS DOGES - YouTube 421117;1386954782;dexX7;>_< 421118;1386954911;dexX7;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sd4bqmP_460 470.000 views ;) 421119;1386954912;ozbot;Doge Adventure - YouTube 421120;1386955498;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 250 @ 0.001 = 0.25 BTC 421121;1386955603;kakobrekla;mike_c, not new, assbot is merging trades and echoing out each minute if sum from a symbol in that minute is over 0.1 btc 421122;1386955651;mike_c;ah, thanks 421123;1386955682;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.26039191 = 3.1247 BTC [-] {4} 421124;1386955712;kakobrekla;sub 0.1 per minute traffic is on -assets-trades 421125;1386955864;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 16 @ 0.05 = 0.8 BTC 421126;1386955925;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 340 @ 0.001 = 0.34 BTC 421127;1386956291;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 11574 @ 0.001 = 11.574 BTC {2} 421128;1386956381;asciilifeform;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Gogulski 421129;1386956381;ozbot;Mike Gogulski - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 421130;1386956535;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.05 = 0.4 BTC 421131;1386957573;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.256001 BTC [-] 421132;1386957877;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6463 @ 0.00089733 = 5.7994 BTC [-] 421133;1386957999;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 9 @ 0.02644999 = 0.238 BTC [+] 421134;1386958122;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 11 @ 0.0905 = 0.9955 BTC [-] 421135;1386958548;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36298 @ 0.00089617 = 32.5292 BTC [-] {4} 421136;1386958609;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5157 @ 0.00089459 = 4.6134 BTC [-] 421137;1386959158;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1260 @ 0.001 = 1.26 BTC {2} 421138;1386959524;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 5000 @ 0.001 = 5 BTC 421139;1386959829;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00089733 = 9.8706 BTC [+] 421140;1386960500;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.25150228 = 2.7665 BTC [-] {5} 421141;1386960561;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.25 BTC [-] 421142;1386960805;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 100 @ 0.05 = 5 BTC 421143;1386961049;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.05 = 0.4 BTC 421144;1386961415;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17750 @ 0.00089424 = 15.8728 BTC [-] {3} 421145;1386961659;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 300 @ 0.001 = 0.3 BTC 421146;1386962025;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00089733 = 6.73 BTC [+] 421147;1386962635;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 3990 @ 0.001 = 3.99 BTC 421148;1386962818;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 20 @ 0.14418539 = 2.8837 BTC [+] {5} 421149;1386962880;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.14063 = 1.4063 BTC [-] {4} 421150;1386963184;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7925 @ 0.00089733 = 7.1113 BTC [+] 421151;1386963611;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 116 @ 0.00255888 = 0.2968 BTC [-] {4} 421152;1386963917;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12407 @ 0.00089937 = 11.1585 BTC [+] {2} 421153;1386964343;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.05 = 0.5 BTC 421154;1386964648;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 498 @ 0.001 = 0.498 BTC 421155;1386964710;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.25000001 = 0.5 BTC [+] 421156;1386965914;KRS|Gotchawallet;ow my bitcoins..make the selling stop. 421157;1386966014;KRS|Gotchawallet;i have not seen such destruction of wealth since 1970s Jimmy Carter era Washington DC, USA. 421158;1386966226;the20year;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=348468.msg3953236#msg3953236 421159;1386966229;ozbot;[BitFunder] Moving Forward/Resolution Process 421160;1386966234;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7360 @ 0.0008976 = 6.6063 BTC [-] {2} 421161;1386966417;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 828 @ 0.00275702 = 2.2828 BTC [-] {20} 421162;1386966478;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1172 @ 0.00269828 = 3.1624 BTC [-] {3} 421163;1386966536;pankkake;isn't "gone" the hollywood word to avoid saying dead? 421164;1386966548;pankkake;wonder what is the avoidance here 421165;1386966600;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2921 @ 0.00263437 = 7.695 BTC [-] {16} 421166;1386966661;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 4079 @ 0.00250687 = 10.2255 BTC [-] {10} 421167;1386966722;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 498 @ 0.00249905 = 1.2445 BTC [-] {5} 421168;1386966723;mike_c;^ nice. neobee made a great decision to get involved in this. 421169;1386966762;pankkake;"Going on HavelockInvestments.com right now to sell half my Neo & Bee shares. Watch the price go down." guy was the biggest cheerleader a few hours ago 421170;1386966783;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 300 @ 0.00214749 = 0.6442 BTC [-] {7} 421171;1386966801;pankkake;lol 421172;1386966807;pankkake;I can have cheap shares! 421173;1386966833;ThickAsThieves;good thing you sold at the top! 421174;1386966852;ThickAsThieves;making money by mistake 421175;1386966856;ThickAsThieves;the bitcoin way 421176;1386966866;pankkake;a few satoshi yay 421177;1386966868;KRS-;haha ThickAsThieves 421178;1386966885;pankkake;anyway if I rebuy it will be at the lmb thing so it actually gets to the company 421179;1386966896;ThickAsThieves;though i dont see how this news has any effect on Neo 421180;1386966918;KRS-;i was seeing funny shit with huge buy and sells when this started 421181;1386966930;pankkake;indeed… makes no sense 421182;1386966939;KRS-;im thinking india is about to get on board and someone playing games with the price 421183;1386966950;mike_c;really? neo "gets involved", communication is terrible, balances "adjusted". not a great reflection. 421184;1386966967;pankkake;well the only implication is that neo wastes its time 421185;1386967002;pankkake;(which is actually a big deal, time is worth a lot of btc, especially in Bitcoin!) 421186;1386967021;ThickAsThieves;lol 421187;1386967034;pankkake;I wouldn't have sold at loss because of the "news" 421188;1386967038;KRS-;here we are..lets see if it breaks down 421189;1386967045;mike_c;plus his posts on the forum have not inspired confidence. 421190;1386967057;ThickAsThieves;that'll change 421191;1386967081;mike_c;it may change, but it was still revealing character-wise. 421192;1386967515;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32113 @ 0.00089481 = 28.735 BTC [-] {5} 421193;1386967821;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC 421194;1386967826;the20year;Is mcxnow completely down? 421195;1386967837;ThickAsThieves;was it ever really up? 421196;1386967881;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00264999 = 0.265 BTC [+] {3} 421197;1386967969;pankkake;I can log on 421198;1386969101;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00281944 = 0.2819 BTC [+] {5} 421199;1386969102;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 30000 @ 0.001 = 30 BTC 421200;1386969406;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 572 @ 0.00257774 = 1.4745 BTC [-] {11} 421201;1386969589;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 187 @ 0.00235002 = 0.4395 BTC [-] {4} 421202;1386969691;Kleeck;This was good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdkGA_rgHRY 421203;1386969772;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.05 = 0.25 BTC 421204;1386969833;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 250 @ 0.001 = 0.25 BTC 421205;1386970016;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.25765332 = 0.773 BTC [+] {2} 421206;1386970138;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 200 @ 0.001 = 0.2 BTC 421207;1386970626;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 57 @ 0.00229976 = 0.1311 BTC [+] {3} 421208;1386970687;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 44 @ 0.00248885 = 0.1095 BTC [+] {4} 421209;1386971026;pigeons;mpex please such doge options 421210;1386971053;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00089645 = 6.2752 BTC [+] 421211;1386971053;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 40 @ 0.05 = 2 BTC 421212;1386971125;benkay;hey options trades aren't announce in here? 421213;1386971130;benkay;announced* 421214;1386971225;pigeons;they aren't -assets 421215;1386971239;pigeons;no they used to be announced though 421216;1386971276;pigeons;mabe just low volume lately 421217;1386971358;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 4 @ 0.0911 = 0.3644 BTC [+] 421218;1386971419;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 3203 @ 0.001 = 3.203 BTC 421219;1386971480;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 10000 @ 0.001 = 10 BTC 421220;1386971486;benkay;not an asset? semantics or... 421221;1386971503;benkay;;;ticker 421222;1386971541;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 27297 @ 0.001 = 27.297 BTC {3} 421223;1386971655;ThickAsThieves;;;rip 421224;1386971663;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 20000 @ 0.001 = 20 BTC 421225;1386971718;mike_c;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-12-2013#413679 421226;1386971720;ozbot;#bitcoin-assets log 421227;1386971722;mike_c;few days ago they were 421228;1386971724;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 61 @ 0.00258999 = 0.158 BTC [+] {2} 421229;1386971754;mike_c;looking on mpex, no volume since then. 421230;1386971811;benkay;whoa also where did gribble go? 421231;1386973127;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.25915199 = 1.2958 BTC [+] {3} 421232;1386973188;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.27449998 BTC [+] 421233;1386973249;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC 421234;1386973615;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 429 @ 0.00259533 = 1.1134 BTC [-] {11} 421235;1386974016;benkay;.d 421236;1386974016;ozbot;908350862.43702 | Next Diff in 1464 blocks | Estimated Change: 14.6310% in 8d 16h 8m 0s 421237;1386974061;kanzure;assbot: http://httpbin.org/get 421238;1386974078;kanzure;assbot: http://requestb.in/sy3ipnsy 421239;1386974095;kanzure;WeeChat/0.4.2 421240;1386974103;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3321 @ 0.00089645 = 2.9771 BTC [+] 421241;1386974111;kanzure;it is someone's irc client? hah 421242;1386974245;asciilifeform;high-quality flamefest: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/urbit-dev/PvXo1t7uNrY/RL7DLpg1v9QJ 421243;1386974408;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00089729 = 7.4475 BTC [+] {2} 421244;1386974442;benkay;how's the cardano coming along? 421245;1386974461;asciilifeform;benkay: rng done. 421246;1386974625;benkay;super. standalone? 421247;1386974641;asciilifeform;it's a separate board, yes 421248;1386974655;asciilifeform;not standalone in the sense of a separate product, though 421249;1386974720;benkay;why not? 421250;1386974774;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1050 @ 0.0008974 = 0.9423 BTC [+] 421251;1386974957;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.0008974 = 6.2818 BTC [+] {2} 421252;1386975114;asciilifeform;might be sold separately at some point; ask mp if you're impatient. 421253;1386975250;jurov;ETA to finished Cardano? 421254;1386975267;asciilifeform;depends largely on the factory. 421255;1386975279;asciilifeform;that's all I'll say on the subject 421256;1386975312;asciilifeform;why so impatient. 421257;1386975341;asciilifeform;don't get me wrong, I'm glad somebody wants to buy these things 421258;1386975357;jurov;mostly curious, only a bit impatient 421259;1386975384;asciilifeform;see, building a quality 'security product' (that rare bird!) involves quite a bit of work that never shows up in the finished piece. 421260;1386975393;asciilifeform;mostly investigations into 'what not to do.' 421261;1386975407;asciilifeform;with actual experiments in subversion; a kind of 'chess against yourself.' 421262;1386975422;benkay;so happy to have you on the case, asciilifeform 421263;1386975427;jurov;i know (although only in software) 421264;1386975445;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7832 @ 0.00089845 = 7.0367 BTC [+] {2} 421265;1386975490;asciilifeform;the final result will likely strike people as 'obvious' and 'wtf did he do for this long.' 421266;1386975506;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2740 @ 0.0008996 = 2.4649 BTC [+] 421267;1386975525;asciilifeform;but such is life. 421268;1386975531;jurov;that's why i hope there will be some marketing in contemporary sense 421269;1386975539;jurov;not just mpoe-pr 421270;1386975560;Apocalyptic;heh 421271;1386975570;asciilifeform;mp is the marketing sorcerer, send all related questions/ideas his way. 421272;1386975589;jurov;i know :) 421273;1386975616;jurov;but since you deflect all questions ...:) 421274;1386975626;jurov;oh, and will it run urbit? 421275;1386975637;Apocalyptic;urbit is dead I heard 421276;1386975662;asciilifeform;dead? 421277;1386975680;jurov;cuz you sold it 421278;1386975682;jurov;hahahaha 421279;1386975683;asciilifeform;haha 421280;1386975697;asciilifeform;would be tricky to sell any were it dead... 421281;1386975876;asciilifeform;in all seriousness, all you need to use cardano is some machine which can read/write usb mass storage. 421282;1386975930;asciilifeform;and a CR2450 battery. 421283;1386975933;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.05 = 0.2 BTC 421284;1386975948;asciilifeform;(the latter: included.) 421285;1386975993;asciilifeform;since you folks love hints and tidbits: the rng operates exclusively off the battery. 421286;1386976011;asciilifeform;why? 'exercise for the alert reader.' 421287;1386976116;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.05 = 0.45 BTC 421288;1386976124;jurov;using nsa-compliant-rigged bateries? 421289;1386976136;asciilifeform;jurov: feel free to install one! 421290;1386976153;asciilifeform;sadly, i'm all out. 421291;1386976164;asciilifeform;gotta ask mein fuhrer for more. 421292;1386976206;jurov;yes, that should be one bullet point "Requires NSA certified battery" 421293;1386976207;asciilifeform;in all seriousness, i won't be surprised if folks start x-raying batteries before this is over. 421294;1386976351;asciilifeform;consider the famous israeli cell phone battery. 421295;1386976373;asciilifeform;(the one they slip to people who are to part with their heads.) 421296;1386976421;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 5000 @ 0.001 = 5 BTC 421297;1386976429;jurov;interesting, have you sauce handy? 421298;1386976523;asciilifeform;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahya_Ayyash 421299;1386976523;ozbot;Yahya Ayyash - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 421300;1386976684;jurov;thx. it isn't said if it was in the battery 421301;1386976695;asciilifeform;most likely spot. 421302;1386977092;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5248 @ 0.0008996 = 4.7211 BTC [+] 421303;1386977214;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4222 @ 0.00089645 = 3.7848 BTC [-] 421304;1386977275;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8578 @ 0.00089504 = 7.6777 BTC [-] {2} 421305;1386977610;nubbins`;hm 421306;1386977613;nubbins`;;;echo hi 421307;1386977650;benkay;pretty sure gribble ain't around today mang 421308;1386977662;nubbins`;yeah, just noticed an "altgribble" in -otc 421309;1386977702;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1380 @ 0.001 = 1.38 BTC 421310;1386977806;nubbins`;;;ident nubbins` 421311;1386977813;nubbins`;ah, but not in here! 421312;1386978434;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 300 @ 0.001 = 0.3 BTC 421313;1386979227;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46750 @ 0.00089411 = 41.7996 BTC [-] {6} 421314;1386979266;ThickAsThieves;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBbLpxLglz0#t=743 421315;1386979266;ozbot;SUPER MONEY The REVOLUTION in Digital Currency has arrived! THIS is BITCOIN 2.0! - YouTube 421316;1386979288;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 119 @ 0.001 = 0.119 BTC 421317;1386979303;Apocalyptic;TAT, really ? 421318;1386979575;CheckDavid;How is the market cap of bitcoin evaluated? 421319;1386979583;CheckDavid;Is it market price * n of mined coins? 421320;1386979654;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2864 @ 0.0008928 = 2.557 BTC [-] 421321;1386979763;pankkake;CheckDavid: yes. probably usually doesn't account for "lost" coins 421322;1386979802;CheckDavid;Yeah, that was the point I was trying to get to 421323;1386979808;CheckDavid;so if the price goes up due to lost coins 421324;1386979816;CheckDavid;it looks like the market cap is going up 421325;1386979821;CheckDavid;When it really isn't 421326;1386979825;CheckDavid;Am i correct in my rationale? 421327;1386979828;pankkake;yes 421328;1386979842;CheckDavid;I see. 421329;1386979847;CheckDavid;It's very tricky 421330;1386980020;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21300 @ 0.0008928 = 19.0166 BTC [-] 421331;1386980264;CheckDavid;it's interesting how bitcoins end up being lost no matter what 421332;1386980522;pankkake;so supermoney is basically ripple? 421333;1386980569;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5659 @ 0.00008018 = 0.4537 BTC [-] {9} 421334;1386980630;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 20000 @ 0.00007188 = 1.4376 BTC [-] {11} 421335;1386980691;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 36139 @ 0.00007003 = 2.5308 BTC [-] {4} 421336;1386980752;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 14341 @ 0.00007003 = 1.0043 BTC [-] 421337;1386980845;KRS-;heh 421338;1386981057;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17300 @ 0.00089557 = 15.4934 BTC [+] 421339;1386981271;benkay;asciilifeform: u crazy man 421340;1386981285;benkay;"complete electronic redesign of the past 25 years" 421341;1386981606;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1950 @ 0.0008974 = 1.7499 BTC [+] {2} 421342;1386982887;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 710 @ 0.00281999 = 2.0022 BTC [+] {3} 421343;1386983375;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 98 @ 0.00256298 = 0.2512 BTC [-] {3} 421344;1386983498;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 40 @ 0.00275 = 0.11 BTC [-] 421345;1386984839;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43080 @ 0.00090046 = 38.7918 BTC [+] {4} 421346;1386985102;pankkake;;;estimate 421347;1386985103;gribble;Next difficulty estimate | 1045154958.02 based on data since last change | 1061470067.62 based on data for last three days 421348;1386985260;benkay;;;market 421349;1386985261;gribble;Error: "market" is not a valid command. 421350;1386985266;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00090085 = 1.5314 BTC [+] 421351;1386985266;benkay;;;ticker --market --btcavg 421352;1386985266;gribble;BitcoinAverage BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 883.07, Best ask: 886.01, Bid-ask spread: 2.94000, Last trade: 884.75, 24 hour volume: 54501.6, 24 hour low: None, 24 hour high: None, 24 hour vwap: 894.08 421353;1386985275;benkay;;;ticker --market bitstamp 421354;1386985276;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 870.0, Best ask: 872.0, Bid-ask spread: 2.00000, Last trade: 872.0, 24 hour volume: 14577.80143116, 24 hour low: 850.0, 24 hour high: 920.42, 24 hour vwap: 882.899271422 421355;1386985876;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00090177 = 9.7391 BTC [+] {2} 421356;1386987013;thestringpuller;;;ticker 421357;1386987014;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 926.5, Best ask: 929.99999, Bid-ask spread: 3.49999, Last trade: 926.1, 24 hour volume: 16138.33096512, 24 hour low: 882.15864, 24 hour high: 990.0, 24 hour vwap: 931.88021 421358;1386987340;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00090085 = 0.9009 BTC [-] 421359;1386988683;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 6000 @ 0.001 = 6 BTC 421360;1386988804;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 55 @ 0.00281999 = 0.1551 BTC [+] 421361;1386988926;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 324 @ 0.00281999 = 0.9137 BTC [+] {2} 421362;1386989292;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21300 @ 0.00090191 = 19.2107 BTC [+] {3} 421363;1386989780;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00281999 = 0.282 BTC [+] {2} 421364;1386991061;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 394 @ 0.000519 = 0.2045 BTC [-] 421365;1386991183;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 185 @ 0.001 = 0.185 BTC 421366;1386991244;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37150 @ 0.00089902 = 33.3986 BTC [-] {3} 421367;1386991793;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17443 @ 0.00089834 = 15.6697 BTC [-] 421368;1386992220;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00089573 = 2.9559 BTC [-] {2} 421369;1386992281;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20733 @ 0.0008929 = 18.5125 BTC [-] {4} 421370;1386993562;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3957 @ 0.00089665 = 3.548 BTC [+] 421371;1386994204;mircea_popescu;egypt apparently just ipo'd snow. 421372;1386994295;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4846 @ 0.00090249 = 4.3735 BTC [+] 421373;1386994302;Apocalyptic;heh 421374;1386994343;Apocalyptic;by the way mircea, i just read one of the worst article about "why is bitcoin gonna fail" from french dudes who are otherwise sensible 421375;1386994374;Apocalyptic;their main point is "when central banks decide playground is over, they'll shutdown exchanges, so value will plumet, so lulz" 421376;1386994445;Apocalyptic;i guess you have 1 more name to add to your infamous list 421377;1386994477;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 220 @ 0.00197381 = 0.4342 BTC [-] {5} 421378;1386994940;Apocalyptic;what's even more interesting is that the guy claims to have 9 years of financial experience 421379;1386994946;Apocalyptic;so he obviously knows his shit 421380;1386994998;mircea_popescu;Apocalyptic you can tell them that when i decide playground is over, i'll just shut down these4 alleged "central banks" 421381;1386995020;mircea_popescu;and he can use his 9 years of financial experience to get a job flipping burgers. 421382;1386995068;Apocalyptic;http://reflets.info/le-saviez-vous-le-bitcoin-va-disparaitre/ 421383;1386995073;Apocalyptic;if you feel like translating 421384;1386995084;Apocalyptic;it's really short and dissapointing 421385;1386995131;Apocalyptic;pankkake, ^^ 421386;1386995148;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20100 @ 0.00090291 = 18.1485 BTC [+] {2} 421387;1386995380;Namworld;I don't need to, I can just read that... 421388;1386995568;mircea_popescu;i can read french just fine 421389;1386995654;Namworld;Ignorance, topped with ignorance sauce 421390;1386995658;Apocalyptic;nice, it's kinda similar to romanian in some way 421391;1386995674;Apocalyptic;Namworld, pretty much, have you read the comments also ? 421392;1386995680;Namworld;Nope 421393;1386995683;Apocalyptic;guy's acting like he has it all figured out 421394;1386995690;Apocalyptic;and wtf do these noobs want 421395;1386995758;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 80 @ 0.00282 = 0.2256 BTC [+] 421396;1386996308;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 42 @ 0.00280309 = 0.1177 BTC [-] {2} 421397;1386997527;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56300 @ 0.00090292 = 50.8344 BTC [+] {2} 421398;1386997845;mircea_popescu;Apocalyptic one bitcoin buys me at least 100 clueless noobs who have it all figured out. 421399;1386997871;Apocalyptic;I just don't understand where that arrogance come from given they're utterly clueless 421400;1386997871;mircea_popescu;the other way however... not so much. clueless noobs with delusions of self importance are pretty much a buyer's market. 421401;1386997877;Apocalyptic;and they don't even realize it 421402;1386997878;mircea_popescu;that's where. 421403;1386997919;mircea_popescu;there's two types of arrogant people in the world, those who know they're much better than you and those that don't know you're any better than them. 421404;1386997925;mircea_popescu;the latter are the very vast majority. 421405;1386998013;mircea_popescu;anyway, if you're bored you can send them to http://trilema.com/2013/stage-n-bitcoin-exists/ 421406;1386998020;mircea_popescu;not like it's a new argument or anything. 421407;1386998063;Apocalyptic;meh, they don't deserve that priv reading trilema is 421408;1386998259;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 7 @ 0.024 = 0.168 BTC [-] 421409;1386998263;mircea_popescu;Oct 28 17:17:15 but in all srsness i think i may fork over money for an mpex account 421410;1386998267;mircea_popescu;this, of course, was oct 28 2012 :D 421411;1386998320;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1499 @ 0.000519 = 0.778 BTC [-] 421412;1386998537;Namworld;I don't use my MPEx account much, if at all, recently. No options at a premium I like. 421413;1386998674;Apocalyptic;Namworld, you're still running btc-bond right ? 421414;1386998686;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42790 @ 0.00089936 = 38.4836 BTC [-] {2} 421415;1386998808;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 49 @ 0.00275 = 0.1348 BTC [-] 421416;1386999111;Namworld;Yes 421417;1386999234;mircea_popescu;Namworld you could write your own and list them of course 421418;1386999272;mircea_popescu;(ironically, people paying for options last month made ~3k btc in aggregate) 421419;1386999393;mike_c;late night thought: the market maker writes almost all the options. it would be good for mpex if more people wrote options. so, the fee (not collateral) for writing options should be low low low (maybe even free??) 421420;1386999443;Namworld;I suppose I could eventually. 421421;1386999670;mircea_popescu;mike_c what fee is that ? 421422;1386999755;mike_c;All MKOPT and MKFUT orders are assesed a 2% fee (SPLIT orders are free). 421423;1387000786;mircea_popescu;mike_c you can make split for free. 421424;1387000831;mike_c;yeah, for double the collateral. idk.. probably a dumb late night thought. ignore me. 421425;1387001351;mircea_popescu;well the idea is that if you're marketmaking then you're marketmaking. selling puts and calls. 421426;1387001359;mircea_popescu;if you are going directional then you are speculating not marketmaking. 421427;1387001443;mircea_popescu;this obviously is a distinction btc people would gladly blur, but i think it'd be pretty dangerous/irresponsible to allow it just yet. 421428;1387001834;mike_c;yeah, i agree that is the correct long-term thinking. which is the way you operate. I just wish for moar liquidity at times. 421429;1387001927;mircea_popescu;there's a ton of liquidity, you kidding? 421430;1387001941;mircea_popescu;i guess we all wish for more liquidity at better prices, but this is probably true universally. 421431;1387001957;mircea_popescu;i wish there were more airplanes for 10k a pop on the market, for instance 421432;1387001980;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00296938 = 0.2969 BTC [+] {4} 421433;1387002358;mike_c;not universally. there are tight spreads on some things, like s.mpoe. tight spreads on options would require hedgin though 421434;1387002432;mircea_popescu;you realise the notion of tight is relative. 421435;1387002450;mircea_popescu;mpoe moves relatively very little, i was just looking through early feb/march logs and it was trading 65-70 421436;1387002468;mircea_popescu;btc in march was also trading 6.5 421437;1387002590;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15800 @ 0.00089753 = 14.181 BTC [-] 421438;1387002599;mike_c;spread on mpoe is 0.00000036 right now. spread over last 30 days was 1000x that. 421439;1387002610;mike_c;spread of the s.mpoe share price 421440;1387002623;mike_c;that seems relatively bigger than the option spreads 421441;1387002647;mike_c;er, smaller. 421442;1387002685;mike_c;that is obviously for less volume, but you can still move a decent amount of mpoe shares for smaller price differences. 421443;1387002719;mircea_popescu;but let alone spread girth for a moment and think in avg prices. 421444;1387002752;mike_c;ok. you are saying mpoe spread over last 30 is 20% and btc is 50% (or more) 421445;1387002752;mircea_popescu;s.mpoe moved 20%ish over 9 months. btc moved 10000% over the same interval. 421446;1387002776;mircea_popescu;obviously the spot spreads on the first will be way narrower than even the spot spreads on the 2nd 421447;1387002787;mircea_popescu;let alone the OPTION spreads on the 2nd, which by their nature have to be wider than spot 421448;1387002855;mike_c;yes. and obviously the option spreads are not insane since the bot gets beat up sometimes. 421449;1387002863;mircea_popescu;such as last month ;/ 421450;1387002901;mircea_popescu;on the other hand i can understand the disbelief, people with any experience looking at options are aghast to see mpex spreads. 421451;1387002907;mircea_popescu;nevertheless, bitcoin is bitcoin. what can one do. 421452;1387002974;mike_c;plus, everytime i undercut the bot's margin I get beat up :) 421453;1387002997;mircea_popescu;lol 421454;1387003018;mircea_popescu;i think you may be not the first to make that experience 421455;1387003036;mircea_popescu;which is why there's not so much stuff in the midmarket, in spite of mpex being unbitcoinly friendlty to free entreprise. 421456;1387003049;kanzure;so it turns out that the cryptocyprus neobee-dumper should be flipped around the other way 421457;1387003055;kanzure;dump when he posts on bitcointalk, buy when he posts on reddit 421458;1387003130;mircea_popescu;any good drama ? 421459;1387003143;kanzure;just boring drama 421460;1387003147;kanzure;not worth reporting 421461;1387003213;mircea_popescu;aok 421462;1387003505;assbot;[MPEX] [S.BBET] 1000 @ 0.0005555 = 0.5555 BTC [-] 421463;1387003688;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.0008971 = 6.818 BTC [-] 421464;1387004786;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28050 @ 0.00089583 = 25.128 BTC [-] {2} 421465;1387006616;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13450 @ 0.0008973 = 12.0687 BTC [+] {4} 421466;1387006616;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 4 @ 0.1 = 0.4 BTC [+] 421467;1387007897;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.26667 BTC [-] 421468;1387008934;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17371 @ 0.00089902 = 15.6169 BTC [+] {2} 421469;1387008995;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 300 @ 0.05 = 15 BTC 421470;1387009544;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.25900302 BTC [-] 421471;1387009605;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.25900301 BTC [-] 421472;1387009739;KRS|Gotyawallet;dat blockchain 421473;1387009748;KRS|Gotyawallet;to handle the number of transactions that visa handles in 3 months the bitcoin system will require 14 Terabytes of storage space. That's 14 terabytes of hard drive space you would have to add every 85 days! https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Talk:Scalability#Disk_space 421474;1387010050;mircea_popescu;notrly a new point by any means. that's why the more sensible people have been saying all along that bitcoin isn't nor does it aim to be a visa competitor. 421475;1387010825;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.26667 BTC [+] 421476;1387012571;Apocalyptic;guys, does someone have a GPG contract template for a bond ? 421477;1387013997;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40050 @ 0.00090071 = 36.0734 BTC [+] {4} 421478;1387017047;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31885 @ 0.00089782 = 28.627 BTC [-] 421479;1387017779;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 280 @ 0.001 = 0.28 BTC 421480;1387018450;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17200 @ 0.00089674 = 15.4239 BTC [-] {2} 421481;1387018572;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.25900301 BTC [-] 421482;1387018938;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1720 @ 0.001 = 1.72 BTC 421483;1387019304;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29100 @ 0.00089582 = 26.0684 BTC [-] {2} 421484;1387020036;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23684 @ 0.00090018 = 21.3199 BTC [+] {2} 421485;1387020097;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17180 @ 0.00090284 = 15.5108 BTC [+] 421486;1387020463;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.2590011 = 1.295 BTC [-] 421487;1387021012;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.259 = 1.295 BTC [-] 421488;1387021744;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.05 = 0.3 BTC 421489;1387024001;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 40 @ 0.25900301 = 10.3601 BTC [+] 421490;1387024245;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 62 @ 0.00289999 = 0.1798 BTC [+] 421491;1387024550;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29900 @ 0.00090169 = 26.9605 BTC [-] 421492;1387025038;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13746 @ 0.00090077 = 12.382 BTC [-] 421493;1387025648;KRS|Gotyawallet;Of the most regal titles, is Mircea Popescu a Duke? 421494;1387025690;fiat500;baron comes to mind 421495;1387025770;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 288 @ 0.001 = 0.288 BTC 421496;1387025835;KRS|Gotyawallet;yes, baron would suit him fine 421497;1387025840;KRS|Gotyawallet;Bitcoin Baron 421498;1387025913;KRS|Gotyawallet;but thats just a mininode where there reports of his manhood from wild soirees in Monaco? 421499;1387026014;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] [PAID] 7.70020900 BTC to 86`900 shares, 8861 satoshi per share 421500;1387026408;BingoBoingo;Baron seems too low. In Bitcoin Baron may be the highest nobel title though because generally the title of a Baron is derived through accomplishment. Higher feudal titles though were generally derived by the whims of kings long dead. 421501;1387026437;BingoBoingo;It may be that in Bitcoin no higher title than Baron is possible. 421502;1387026490;pankkake;overlord 421503;1387026517;Apocalyptic; to handle the number of transactions that visa handles in 3 months the bitcoin system will require 14 Terabytes of storage space. That's 14 terabytes of hard drive space you would have to add every 85 days! https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Talk:Scalability#Disk_space // that couldn't even be possible 421504;1387026561;Apocalyptic;and by design so, the blocksize is bounded, so the blockchain space increase is bounded too, and far from these figures 421505;1387026600;pankkake;I'm sure it can be changed in the future, when it makes sense (i.e. much faster connections and cheaper storage) 421506;1387026616;pankkake;but in any case, there is an use for an offchain payment service 421507;1387026631;pankkake;small transactions, instant confirmations 421508;1387026637;Apocalyptic;yeah definitely 421509;1387026662;Apocalyptic;btw pankkake what's your opinion of reflets.info ? 421510;1387026751;pankkake;the bitcoin article? it looks like it has spread amongst the French 421511;1387026768;Apocalyptic;no, the guys behind it in general 421512;1387026771;pankkake;I think I probably ignore anything starting by reflets.info, reading it now 421513;1387026774;pankkake;oh :) 421514;1387026776;Apocalyptic;bluetouff, kitetoa... 421515;1387026790;pankkake;oh kitetoa is behind it? :o 421516;1387026800;Apocalyptic;he wrote that shitty article ! 421517;1387026806;pankkake;:( 421518;1387026828;Apocalyptic;i wouldn't mention a random negative btc article here 421519;1387026835;KRS|Gotyawallet;in at $880 421520;1387026841;Apocalyptic;i did because i thought these guys were sensible to start with 421521;1387026846;pankkake;I was a big fan of kitetoa.com when I was young 421522;1387026856;Apocalyptic;yeah guy seems ok 421523;1387026860;pankkake;but it's not really negative. the point is that it will be made illegal one day 421524;1387026869;kakobrekla;;;later tell mircea_popescu done 421525;1387026869;gribble;The operation succeeded. 421526;1387026871;Apocalyptic;fair 421527;1387026874;pankkake;and I believe it will 421528;1387026878;Apocalyptic;however he doesn't say that 421529;1387026882;pankkake;the thing is, will it matter? 421530;1387026889;Apocalyptic;he implies that when it will be made illegal, it will die 421531;1387026894;Apocalyptic;and that's the issue 421532;1387026923;pankkake;yeah, I think - with a bit of hope - that when it happens it won't matter 421533;1387026933;Apocalyptic;(c'est comme a que j'interprte son "va disparatre") 421534;1387027022;pankkake;OTC trading certainly won't die, though it's impractical 421535;1387027722;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14128 @ 0.00090292 = 12.7565 BTC [+] {2} 421536;1387027783;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00090319 = 4.245 BTC [+] 421537;1387028163;KRS|Gotyawallet;Apocalyptic: so the blockchain isnt going to be an issue in the future like that article said? I dont know a lot about it but I'm interested in it and wondered about future growth. 421538;1387028295;Apocalyptic;it won't, blockchain storage requirement will increase linearly, and less so than common storage space 421539;1387028497;KRS|Gotyawallet;they estimated TB levels 421540;1387028529;KRS|Gotyawallet;as long as its not an issue np 421541;1387028552;KRS|Gotyawallet;i was just curious..and how exactly did the French decide the death of bitcoin? 421542;1387028653;BingoBoingo;I hope I did well asciilifeform et al: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2013/12/14/the-failure-of-urbit-and-the-bitcoins-future-of-computing/ 421543;1387028725;Apocalyptic;eventually yeah KRS 421544;1387028740;Apocalyptic;they predict about 15-20 GBytes/year of increase 421545;1387028751;KRS|Gotyawallet;not sure how thats going to be practical 421546;1387028754;Apocalyptic;it's manageable given the current harddrives and the projected ones 421547;1387028765;KRS|Gotyawallet;harddrives arent exactly portable 421548;1387028772;Apocalyptic;well 421549;1387028786;KRS|Gotyawallet;portable like thumbdrive etc 421550;1387028792;Apocalyptic;it's clear smartphones/any portable device won't be able to hold a full node 421551;1387029022;Duffer1;checkpointing is an option i've heard talked about 421552;1387029035;Duffer1;that could potentially solve the blockchain bloat 421553;1387029066;pankkake;I don't think any smartphone application is a full node already? 421554;1387029176;BingoBoingo;Well, all is manageable if people stop thinking of BTC as a consumer Point of Sale solution... 421555;1387029189;Apocalyptic;^^ 421556;1387029194;Apocalyptic;well said BingoBoingo 421557;1387029223;BingoBoingo;Thank you Apocalyptic, but I wasn't the first to say that. 421558;1387029284;pankkake;thankfully tradefortress solved the issue for us already! oh wait 421559;1387029447;b0n1;hey there! is there a good source for historical data of the bitcoin exchanges like gox stamp and btcchina? By good source I mean relatively dense data with small time intervals. On bitcoincharts for example I can only find historical data with time intervals that are bigger than a day for example 421560;1387029648;kakobrekla;use sierra chart api 421561;1387029674;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30450 @ 0.00090355 = 27.5131 BTC [+] 421562;1387029677;kakobrekla;Duffer1 checkpointing is already implemented, you still need all historic data 421563;1387029714;kakobrekla;how else would you know whats behind certain priv key 421564;1387029797;Duffer1;ah i see 421565;1387029856;b0n1;humm does that run smooth with wine kakobrekla ? 421566;1387029868;b0n1;or do i really have to switch to windows 421567;1387029925;BingoBoingo;b0n1: It's an API so regardless of OS a solution probably exists already in Python 421568;1387030260;b0n1;BingoBoingo, do you eventually have a source to that? 421569;1387030287;b0n1;also i couldnt get informations about a sierrachart api on their homepage 421570;1387030304;b0n1;http://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=doc/Bitcoin.php thats the only thing i found 421571;1387030589;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 45 @ 0.0027 = 0.1215 BTC [-] 421572;1387030833;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.0029 = 0.145 BTC [+] 421573;1387030869;BingoBoingo;b0n1: If I have one, which I am hesistant to say whether I myself do or not it isn't for sale or open source. I think if something exists and is useful that there is probably an open source implementation or an alternative... 421574;1387031138;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 980 @ 0.00275395 = 2.6989 BTC [-] {6} 421575;1387031957;mikaeldice;b0n1, there's a torrent out there somewhere with all of the Gox history up to a certain date. After that it's a matter of querying the API, which will lie sometimes, to get to the current date, and then monitoring the API for future updates 421576;1387032056;mikaeldice;Also, there might be a BigTable database somewhere, if you search on that 421577;1387032205;b0n1;mikaeldice, thanks for the advice! Do you also know of such a torrent file for stamp and btcchina? 421578;1387032297;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 5785 @ 0.00047609 = 2.7542 BTC [-] {15} 421579;1387032345;mikaeldice;On that I have no idea 421580;1387032425;mircea_popescu;b0n1 but since you're talking about this, let me point out to you that this is a business model. 421581;1387032438;mircea_popescu;thompson financial is doing decent money simply by having collected and assembled all this data. 421582;1387032480;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 46 @ 0.0025 = 0.115 BTC [-] 421583;1387032510;mircea_popescu;"bhagenbeekdd@metaltrade.ru 7:00 am The first-rate method to gratify your girlfriend" << dude, metal trade ? poor girlfriends. 421584;1387032541;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 450 @ 0.00045203 = 0.2034 BTC [-] {2} 421585;1387032542;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12300 @ 0.00090395 = 11.1186 BTC [+] {2} 421586;1387032714;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: For the past several decades now, Thompson/Reuters have made a lot of money on this model of information that is at least in principle readily available, but intimidating to encounter in its free form. 421587;1387032724;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2511 BTC [-] 421588;1387032790;mircea_popescu;indeed. 421589;1387032866;BingoBoingo;In my perhaps ill advised venture into library science as a vocation, most of my classmates and professors embraced taking the offered APIs and broken datastreams as a gift to embrace. 421590;1387032898;BingoBoingo;Fuck that though. 421591;1387033003;KRS|Gotyawallet;word 421592;1387033028;KRS|Gotyawallet;;;seen thestringpuller 421593;1387033029;gribble;thestringpuller was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 12 hours, 46 minutes, and 55 seconds ago: ;;ticker 421594;1387033040;BingoBoingo;Mind you these are the same people who view backwards compatibility with the MARC standards as dogma while wanting to recreate in modern data retrieval the same limitations imposed by magnetic tape. 421595;1387033090;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23000 @ 0.00090401 = 20.7922 BTC [+] {2} 421596;1387033255;BingoBoingo;Available for the taking by any rando university that wants to incorporate a Stanford, Harvard, or Berkley-ness to their name by embeding themselves in an area inextricably will be the task of killing Z39.50 421597;1387033383;mircea_popescu;i doubt anything useful, interesting or valuable is coming out of universities anymore. 421598;1387033390;mircea_popescu;kinda dead in the water, at least the anglo-saxon model. 421599;1387033393;BingoBoingo;At the time Z39.50 was standardized SQL implementations were a thing. 421600;1387033475;BingoBoingo;I imagine universities still come up with unique and useful things, though anyone who cares would be loath to find their release instead of simply reinventing them. 421601;1387033578;mircea_popescu;i doubt they do. they may inadvertently acquire "rights" to unrelated people's great ideas through the latter's negligence/cluelessness 421602;1387033581;mircea_popescu;but that's as far as it goes. 421603;1387033588;BingoBoingo;At least as far as organizing information goes it is Dublin Core https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dublin_core versus google search all over again 421604;1387033601;mircea_popescu;universities' capacity to create went out with the admittance of the special interest groups. 421605;1387033615;mircea_popescu;you can either have teachers fucking students and people being called fucktards left and right a la mit 1950s 421606;1387033630;mircea_popescu;or else you can have sensitivity training and one huge diaper party for mentally stunted "adults" in name only. 421607;1387033775;BingoBoingo;Well, they don't do paradigmatic change as well as they used to. Many campuses in the Middle West are making great strides in turning corn into ethanol in ways that would make Jack Daniels himself turn white in shock. Try to suppose through these institutions though that there might be a better fuel than ethanol and you are stuck. 421608;1387033829;mircea_popescu;matybe, i'ven ot really been following the entire "green technologies" stuff. 421609;1387033833;mircea_popescu;seems bunky to me, but w/e. 421610;1387034098;BingoBoingo;Well, turning corn into ethanol isn't really green in any other sense than letting Coca Cola know there might be more money in turning corn into fuel instead of soft drinks and letting the poor get Poorabetes 421611;1387034249;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19738 @ 0.00090404 = 17.8439 BTC [+] 421612;1387034276;BingoBoingo;Granted much of my information on this subject may be an accident of geography living in a place where news consists of advances turning corn into flamable glorious, often undrinkable booze or corrupt tax auctions http://www.bnd.com/2013/12/13/2958897/prosecutor-moves-to-cut-off-ex.html 421613;1387034803;mircea_popescu;a 421614;1387034859;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 196 @ 0.25898691 = 50.7614 BTC [+] {5} 421615;1387034920;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.05 = 0.4 BTC 421616;1387034957;BingoBoingo;It is like your chemistry versus food rant. Some places the emphasis is so engrained that minute advances in the chemistry become deafening and people forget that maize is a weed. 421617;1387035059;mircea_popescu;it's a relatively successful one, but not very. nothing like cannabis. 421618;1387035076;mircea_popescu;i have had the occasion to see this in nature, as romania had for over a decade a lot of ignored agricultural land. 421619;1387035099;mircea_popescu;both linen and corn had been long used here, and so they exist as wild species. 421620;1387035103;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.27023687 = 5.4047 BTC [+] {7} 421621;1387035119;mircea_popescu;the corn did manage to ocasionally pick up a spot, but usualyl driven out within a couple of years 421622;1387035125;mircea_popescu;the weed is NEVER driven out. 421623;1387035164;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.26989977 BTC [-] 421624;1387035347;KRS|Gotyawallet;did somebody say weed, man 421625;1387035369;BingoBoingo;Soil and latitude and probably other things make a difference. It would not have been a long walk this fall to fields where corn tainted soybean fields. I'll grant it though that the soil in the fields and around them may not be soild for any natural definition of the term, but may merely be a nitrogen soaked fascimile 421626;1387035530;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15822 @ 0.00090355 = 14.296 BTC [-] 421627;1387036441;mircea_popescu;soybean is arguably even weaker than corn, sure. 421628;1387036445;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22550 @ 0.00090219 = 20.3444 BTC [-] 421629;1387036449;mircea_popescu;have you seen many wild oat fields invaded by corn ? 421630;1387036476;mircea_popescu;or for that matter, Cirsium arvense ? 421631;1387036745;BingoBoingo;I've seen corn in oat and wheat fields, but not invading land covered by thistles. 421632;1387036812;BingoBoingo;Around here though thistles are more of a lawn pest than an agricultural pest. 421633;1387036872;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18450 @ 0.00090219 = 16.6454 BTC [-] 421634;1387036933;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 283 @ 0.002748 = 0.7777 BTC [-] {12} 421635;1387037299;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15200 @ 0.00090195 = 13.7096 BTC [-] 421636;1387037421;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 96 @ 0.0025 = 0.24 BTC [-] {3} 421637;1387037482;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 2109 @ 0.001 = 2.109 BTC {2} 421638;1387037858;mircea_popescu;then it definuitely is a matter of soil/clime 421639;1387038153;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29500 @ 0.00090219 = 26.6146 BTC [+] 421640;1387038458;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33250 @ 0.00090356 = 30.0434 BTC [+] {4} 421641;1387039435;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18850 @ 0.00090769 = 17.11 BTC [+] {2} 421642;1387040337;pankkake;;;estimate 421643;1387040339;gribble;Next difficulty estimate | 1083525546.32 based on data since last change | 1112665357.34 based on data for last three days 421644;1387040381;pankkake;no one really talking about the sc2 match on bitcointalk. not sure where I could promote the bet… 421645;1387040391;pankkake;(and not act like a vile spammer) 421646;1387040434;Apocalyptic;which bet pankkake ? 421647;1387040458;pankkake;http://bitbet.us/bet/660/scarlett-to-win-starcraft-2-showmatch-against-naniwa/?ref=1Eck6cgGzEb9N42CFhcsCBQhZQStoJbHRK 421648;1387040461;ozbot;BitBet - "Scarlett" to win StarCraft 2 showmatch against Naniwa 421649;1387040720;mircea_popescu;maybe on some venue where sf2 is big 421650;1387040737;pankkake;oh, there are many, but I don't have an account on those places 421651;1387040743;pankkake;teamliquid is THE place 421652;1387040748;pankkake;or the starcraft subreddit 421653;1387040828;pankkake;http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=437238 hehe! 421654;1387040828;ozbot;TL Store: Now accepting Bitcoin 421655;1387041214;pankkake;and I realize I probably bet on the wrong horse :( 421656;1387041240;pankkake;plus scarlett has many fans so it would be probably more lucrative to bet on the other one 421657;1387041700;Namworld;whut? 421658;1387041722;Namworld;What the heck are you talking about, pankkake? 421659;1387041752;pankkake;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-12-2013#421644 421660;1387041754;ozbot;#bitcoin-assets log 421661;1387041779;pankkake;just spammed teamliquid 421662;1387041982;Namworld;I see 421663;1387042057;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 181 @ 0.00278629 = 0.5043 BTC [+] {2} 421664;1387042058;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.0009078 = 10.1674 BTC [+] {2} 421665;1387042065;mircea_popescu;im surprised sc2 tournaments are still a big thing 421666;1387042118;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 170 @ 0.00265893 = 0.452 BTC [-] {5} 421667;1387042139;pankkake;league of legends (aka LoL. lol) is a bigger thing apparently 421668;1387042154;pankkake;still I enjoy watching sc2, even if I don't really play it 421669;1387042202;pankkake;mostly this guy: https://www.youtube.com/user/PsyStarcraft/videos because of the live play and all the rage and bad manner 421670;1387042484;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.25500123 = 0.51 BTC [-] 421671;1387042507;pankkake;http://blog.oleganza.com/post/69887761276/bitcoin-value-proposition 421672;1387042508;ozbot;Oleg Andreev - Bitcoin Value Proposition 421673;1387042882;thestringpuller;mircea_popescu: has never been to korea 421674;1387042906;asciilifeform;hell, wc2 (!) is still played in russia. 421675;1387043502;pankkake;http://www.coinion.com/2013/12/14/obamacoin-promises-change/ 421676;1387043521;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.05 = 0.75 BTC 421677;1387043701;thestringpuller;asciilifeform: lol wc2 421678;1387043706;thestringpuller;how old are you? 421679;1387043824;asciilifeform;thestringpuller: ~30 421680;1387043841;asciilifeform;but i was young once 421681;1387043975;thestringpuller;30 is still young 421682;1387043981;thestringpuller;~30 is still young 421683;1387044009;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16358 @ 0.00090764 = 14.8472 BTC [-] 421684;1387044010;pankkake;I hope so! 421685;1387044115;asciilifeform;my partner at one of the places i wurk was hired because he found a remote 0day for... warcraft 2. 421686;1387044149;asciilifeform;(it was his only claim to glory; he was a truck driver at the time.) 421687;1387044375;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25500 @ 0.00090666 = 23.1198 BTC [-] 421688;1387044694;pankkake;;;estimate 421689;1387044706;gribble;Next difficulty estimate | 1096052560.49 based on data since last change | 1123378423.01 based on data for last three days 421690;1387044845;Namworld;wc2 is the shit, thestringpuller 421691;1387044856;Namworld;I should play it again... 421692;1387044881;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/youre-gonna-have-to-learn-that-variety-speak/ 421693;1387044882;ozbot;You’re gonna have to learn that variety speak pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 421694;1387045781;Namworld;lol, that coinion article. 421695;1387047979;ThickAsThieves;nice article mp, would be interesting if you turn out proven correct 421696;1387048022;mircea_popescu;get your hollywood friends to read it anyway. 421697;1387048036;mircea_popescu;spiel says hollyowood's dogfood, and he has a point. they gotta do something. 421698;1387048706;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 94 @ 0.024 = 2.256 BTC [-] {2} 421699;1387049047;dexX7;https://bitcointalk.org/adrotate.php?adinfo "Trade 93 Altcoins to join rich elite !!!" lol 421700;1387049049;ozbot;Ad info 421701;1387049316;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 27 @ 0.05 = 1.35 BTC 421702;1387049378;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 150 @ 0.001 = 0.15 BTC 421703;1387049480;mircea_popescu;anyone remember Elite ? the game publiosher 421704;1387049840;pankkake;"join the rich elite" was the mcxnow motto or something 421705;1387049854;pankkake;that one is a cryptsy reflink, lel 421706;1387049891;FabianB;;;bc,stats 421707;1387049894;gribble;Current Blocks: 274910 | Current Difficulty: 9.08350862437022E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 276191 | Next Difficulty In: 1281 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 11 hours, 16 minutes, and 21 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 1098769491.01 | Estimated Percent Change: 20.96311 421708;1387050016;dexX7;and also "Goat says ch00o0o00 ch0000o000o00o0!!!1!!" linking to an article about bitcoin and what greenspan said. funny rotation 421709;1387050414;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.261 BTC [+] 421710;1387050772;mircea_popescu;;;later tell oleganza what's the point of a blog w/o a comment section ? 421711;1387050772;gribble;The operation succeeded. 421712;1387051512;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5851 @ 0.00090332 = 5.2853 BTC [-] 421713;1387051564;mikaeldice;damn, yet another dice site launched.. mine is going to be just a coin in the wishing well by the time it's done 421714;1387051611;pankkake;try to find something unique 421715;1387051634;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 122 @ 0.0024761 = 0.3021 BTC [-] {2} 421716;1387051750;mikaeldice;I'm not too worried about this one.. "How Does Dicelead Proof Us Each Roll Is Legitimate? dicelead is provably fair which mean you can verfiy each roll is absolutely fair ,so we are only run dicelead.com for fair purpose and no way to change any result of it" ah, well, okay then 421717;1387051869;BingoBoingo;Well, I mean the problem with new dice sites is that the barrier of entry is high. Just-Dice got to eat Satoshi-Dice's lunch because it offered something very different and in many ways better. SatoshiDice's new tribute game is going no where because... In spite of their establish name the new game just sucks. 421718;1387051922;asciilifeform;i still think the phootoore of btc games is battles of wits, not luck 421719;1387051944;asciilifeform;if one wishes to gamble, there's always daytrade 421720;1387052003;mikaeldice;I have addressed a couple of small problems that other games haven't, but I'm not at all convinced that it'll stand up to the signal:noise ratio with so many sites out there now. Time will tell eventually 421721;1387052047;kanzure;strike a deal with a physical casino 421722;1387052114;mikaeldice;This new site, for example, has some clear flaws. 1% house edge with no commission, but they give away bitcoins every hour and promise 50% commission to all referrals. The math doesn't add up. 421723;1387052366;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.05 = 0.5 BTC 421724;1387053708;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9301 @ 0.00090195 = 8.389 BTC [-] 421725;1387054501;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.25500221 BTC [-] 421726;1387054684;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10500 @ 0.00090226 = 9.4737 BTC [+] 421727;1387055111;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 39 @ 0.24960049 = 9.7344 BTC [-] {13} 421728;1387055904;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16104 @ 0.00090102 = 14.51 BTC [-] {2} 421729;1387055965;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16946 @ 0.0009007 = 15.2633 BTC [-] 421730;1387056697;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.25891833 = 0.5178 BTC [+] 421731;1387056758;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 23 @ 0.02310034 = 0.5313 BTC [-] {5} 421732;1387056819;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.24510221 BTC [-] 421733;1387057467;mircea_popescu;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=355169.msg3836323#msg3836323 421734;1387057469;ozbot;Two years of forum ads: get cheap forum ads for a limited time 421735;1387057476;mircea_popescu;check that out, forum ads are dead. 421736;1387057498;mircea_popescu;apparently you can't mismanage a property into the shit for 2+ years and then have it survive. who knew! 421737;1387057560;mircea_popescu;mikaeldice it's a coin in the well already, and has been since summer 2012. 421738;1387057574;mircea_popescu;as the othersd say, gotta be great, and more importantly gotta be someone first. 421739;1387057607;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo it first and foremost got a chance because dooglus. it'd have died an ignominable death if almost anyone else'd have tried an exact copy. 421740;1387057612;pankkake;why does the forum need ads, they have so many btc already 421741;1387057634;mircea_popescu;pankkake had, perhaps. 421742;1387057647;pankkake;right, this is bitcoin 421743;1387057677;mircea_popescu;anyway, he's got https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=355169.msg3916044#msg3916044 421744;1387057680;mircea_popescu;aka spare change. 421745;1387057718;mircea_popescu;worst insult of all, nobody in the actual biz paid him even the equivalent of a bit into cheeseburger. 421746;1387057731;mircea_popescu;it's a case study in how to fuck up, this. 421747;1387057737;pankkake;lol, I could have bought one 421748;1387057752;pankkake;I'd pay 0.05 BTC just to say "butts" 421749;1387057776;mircea_popescu;you could have, but apparently you don't gas. 421750;1387057781;mircea_popescu;anyone know Bitgo btw ? 421751;1387057888;Duffer1;looks like a way too complicated localbitcoins 421752;1387058039;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26500 @ 0.0009007 = 23.8686 BTC [-] 421753;1387058295;mircea_popescu;yeah i don;'t quite grok what it's supposed to be. thought maybe the owner is here. 421754;1387058379;FabianB;looks like a webwallet to me 421755;1387058473;Duffer1;like match.com but with btc escrow 421756;1387058483;mircea_popescu;hahaha that actually sounds like a fucking pitch. 421757;1387058496;mircea_popescu;"like match.com but with btc AND screw" 421758;1387058559;Duffer1;i wonder who their target market is that isn't already serviced by localbitcoins 421759;1387058599;mircea_popescu;localbitcoins is more like a brand than like an actual service servicing local markets. 421760;1387058617;mircea_popescu;mjr_ 's thing is going the same way. 421761;1387058638;mircea_popescu;his experience clearly shows that that market needs someone to put his foot down and keep at it for 5+ years. 421762;1387058655;mircea_popescu;i mean, it responded to half year's worth of pressure nicely. but it isn't enough. 421763;1387058685;Duffer1;6months? that's first i've seen of it 421764;1387058690;Duffer1;well good luck to them :P 421765;1387058759;mircea_popescu;Duffer1 there was this attempt to make a more concrete localbitcoins, "buttonwood" 421766;1387058790;Duffer1;wasn't that supposed to be an app? 421767;1387058814;mircea_popescu;it was a central park meeting for a few months. 421768;1387058826;Duffer1;oh one of the get togethers 421769;1387058929;pankkake;there's dealco.in too 421770;1387058994;Duffer1;https://github.com/joshuarossi/buttonwood_meteor 421771;1387059039;Duffer1;they talked about it a bit on letstalkbitcoin podcast 421772;1387059381;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33600 @ 0.0009007 = 30.2635 BTC [-] 421773;1387059418;kakobrekla;http://bitbet.us/bet/355/us-federal-minimum-wage-will-be-raised-above/#c2076 421774;1387059421;ozbot;BitBet - US Federal Minimum Wage will be raised above $7.25 by the end of 2013 421775;1387059441;mircea_popescu;was it ? 421776;1387059442;kakobrekla;bitbet should change slogan from 'got milk?' to 'better than bank.' 421777;1387059469;kakobrekla;(re last two comments) 421778;1387059486;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla over lunch i was loling with one mod, because she observed that "well, for many people bitbet is a great proposition because not only it allows them to win, but also it prevents them from spending their btc in the interval. 421779;1387059502;mircea_popescu;so some kid bets 20 bucks on btc being over 1000 in six months, he gets 5 grand out." 421780;1387059511;kakobrekla;hehehe 421781;1387059722;mircea_popescu;http://bitbet.us/bet/478/usd-btc-to-drop-below-40-in-2013/#c2078 421782;1387059726;ozbot;BitBet - USD/BTC to drop below $40 in 2013 421783;1387059727;mircea_popescu;so fucking cute, these kids. 421784;1387060087;pankkake;No pays: 0.997 421785;1387060207;mircea_popescu;http://www.mrskincdn.com/data/clip/02/69/71/BlurredLines-Ratajkowski-HD-SAT-01-frame-1.jpg 421786;1387060231;mircea_popescu;i can't believe they still do nude panties. 421787;1387060234;mircea_popescu;it's 2013, yo. 421788;1387060371;pankkake;didn't miley cyprus do something like that? 421789;1387060376;pankkake;which looks like shit by the way 421790;1387060473;mircea_popescu;for a moment i thought there actually is a pron starlet named miley cyprus 421791;1387060538;pankkake;nor there is a britney spheres :/ 421792;1387060565;mircea_popescu;that'd have been a 200s thing 421793;1387060592;asciilifeform;would she 'rolls without slipping on the herpolhode' ? 421794;1387060649;asciilifeform;(obligatory ref: http://mazepath.com/uncleal/herpol.htm) 421795;1387060656;mircea_popescu;pankkake http://uk.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2013730/rs_560x415-130830150852-1024..miley-cyrus-twerk-vma.ls.83013.jpg http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-cWgbbdXx5Is/UOM_S50tf3I/AAAAAAAAEuU/DTbMYh_GVZg/s320/Laughing+Camel.jpg 421796;1387060669;pankkake;haha 421797;1387060682;pankkake;I mean, I like both sluts and tongues. and this girl, EW 421798;1387060691;mircea_popescu;http://mazepath.com/uncleal/herpol.htm 421799;1387060702;mircea_popescu;cmon ozbot. 421800;1387060775;Duffer1;is it just me or do her teeth look like dentures? 421801;1387060824;pankkake;just a wide smile exposing the gum? 421802;1387060912;Duffer1;oh it's a horse 421803;1387060921;mircea_popescu;lmao 421804;1387060964;mircea_popescu;"murine rights" ? fucking seriously ? 421805;1387060971;asciilifeform;this existed! 421806;1387060978;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform baby you are an encyclopedia of all things timecubey 421807;1387061011;asciilifeform;al, like me, once lived under the damocle's sword of regulations on what you can do to... mice. 421808;1387061027;mircea_popescu;this for instance may be the only document on the english web using the otherwise gramatically correct and meaningful phrase 421809;1387061074;asciilifeform;al used english language the way some maniacs use perl 421810;1387061080;asciilifeform;i.e. all the features. 421811;1387061106;mircea_popescu;"997 was Media-saturated with El Nio spin - the largest El Nio event in recorded history and a non-negotiable consequence of the Greenhouse Effect! California was to be washed away under unceasing deluge as the Earth burned! The whole thing summed to one rainstorm and some backpedaling." 421812;1387061112;mircea_popescu;how quickly that was forghotten, too. 421813;1387061128;mircea_popescu;it's almost all the libertards of today are too young to have any recollection of 1997 421814;1387061146;mircea_popescu;wait... they actually are. whodda thunk you can run a political movement on the passions of teenagers. 421815;1387061239;Duffer1;liberals or libertarians? 421816;1387061292;mircea_popescu;libertards = retards who think there is such a thing as "progress" 421817;1387061354;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform don't lose track of all these badly typeset rants, when we burn the old maculature we're going to want new maculature to replace "the history of the world" with. 421818;1387061369;asciilifeform;got old mr. schwartz complete on 4 floppies. 421819;1387061377;asciilifeform;his 'deluxe package.' 421820;1387061386;asciilifeform;25 bux in '98. 421821;1387061424;mircea_popescu;you suppose the material can make it the original content on the cardano ? 421822;1387061438;mircea_popescu;we do have some storage space upon delivery, might as well not be empty. 421823;1387061442;asciilifeform;perhaps, i'd love to dig him up & ask him 421824;1387061447;mircea_popescu;please do. 421825;1387061453;asciilifeform;but he hasn't been answering mail for a while 421826;1387061456;asciilifeform;i'll give it a shot. 421827;1387061469;mircea_popescu;alternatively we violate copyrights and wait to be sued. 421828;1387063102;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2109 @ 0.00089977 = 1.8976 BTC [-] 421829;1387063468;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24800 @ 0.00089842 = 22.2808 BTC [-] {2} 421830;1387063651;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45554 @ 0.00089791 = 40.9034 BTC [-] {2} 421831;1387064514;mircea_popescu;http://bitbet.us/bet/664/google-glass-discontinued-in-2014/ 421832;1387064516;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves that you ? 421833;1387064517;ozbot;BitBet - Google Glass discontinued in 2014 421834;1387064789;mircea_popescu;"Thus for example the X.IDIFF.DEC traded in January 2013 will settle on MPEx on December the 18th, 2013. Should the network difficulty at that time be 3370182 then each contract will be worth 0.03370182 BTC." 421835;1387064798;mircea_popescu;text written in january. 421836;1387064804;mircea_popescu;;;bcstats 421837;1387064806;gribble;Current Blocks: 274938 | Current Difficulty: 9.08350862437022E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 276191 | Next Difficulty In: 1253 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 11 hours, and 37 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 1094254397.86 | Estimated Percent Change: 20.46605 421838;1387064822;mircea_popescu;only about 30x off the mark. 421839;1387065420;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1250 @ 0.00089977 = 1.1247 BTC [+] 421840;1387065671;nubbins`;well hello 421841;1387065725;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18250 @ 0.00089762 = 16.3816 BTC [-] {2} 421842;1387065744;nubbins`;mircea_popescu: what's an order of magnitude, anyway 421843;1387065847;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 150 @ 0.00279999 = 0.42 BTC [+] {2} 421844;1387065969;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 831 @ 0.00283178 = 2.3532 BTC [+] {5} 421845;1387066209;mircea_popescu;two, technically. 421846;1387066242;pankkake;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135035.msg3969507#msg3969507 yay havecocks 421847;1387066244;ozbot;Havelock Investments - Exchange feedback/comments 421848;1387066267;nubbins`;oo you're right 421849;1387066284;nubbins`;anyway, funny story. got this new kind of dope, been sneezing like mad 421850;1387066293;nubbins`;"oh no, i'm allergic to the marihuana" 421851;1387066302;nubbins`;turns out my basil plant started flowering again 421852;1387066311;nubbins`;snip snip, no more allergies 421853;1387066322;pankkake;ban basil plants 421854;1387066387;nubbins`;i know right? one guy sneezed a couple times 421855;1387066396;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SMG] 10000 @ 0.00016631 = 1.6631 BTC [+] {16} 421856;1387066397;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27047 @ 0.00089977 = 24.3361 BTC [+] 421857;1387066403;nubbins`;basil, destroyer of youth 421858;1387066423;nubbins`;corrupter of the innocent 421859;1387066505;nubbins`;defiler of white women 421860;1387066527;mircea_popescu;pankkake so that's the end of havelock then. 421861;1387066533;mircea_popescu;;;eauth mircea_popescu 421862;1387066533;gribble;Request successful for user mircea_popescu, hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/8A736F0E2FB7B452 421863;1387066570;mircea_popescu;;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:1ca25d63307a4c43316c160f03f3313ca3b609e411b15d2e2ebc05a0 421864;1387066571;gribble;You are now authenticated for user mircea_popescu with key 8A736F0E2FB7B452 421865;1387066573;nubbins`;ahahahahahaha 421866;1387066577;nubbins`;re: havelock/virtex 421867;1387066582;nubbins`;what a bunch of cock suckers 421868;1387066598;mircea_popescu;;;rate topace -3 Ran a fake exchange, scammed noobs out of thousands of BTC. See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135035.msg3969507#msg3969507 for an example. 421869;1387066599;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of -3 for user topace has been recorded. 421870;1387066603;nubbins`;nay, what a bunch of dick-noses 421871;1387066620;nubbins`;i know plenty of cock suckers who are upstanding members of the community 421872;1387066623;mircea_popescu;that makes 3 out of 3 for the 2nd batch. 421873;1387066649;mircea_popescu;looking forward to the inevitable 3rd batch, of course. which will be so very different, of course. 421874;1387066690;nubbins`;so sketchy 421875;1387066716;nubbins`;where's that guy mr_e_ from the forums 421876;1387066754;nubbins`;oh, haha 421877;1387066778;nubbins`;from the link: ".."certificates" in another company called Alberta" 421878;1387066792;mircea_popescu;they're going for the gigavps scam. 421879;1387066801;nubbins`;from the announcement: "1612643 Alberta Inc. (operating as Virtex)" 421880;1387066801;nubbins`;lelel 421881;1387066826;nubbins`;joke being that you can refer to your business as Inc. 421882;1387066840;nubbins`;or Canada Inc. for federally incorporated 421883;1387066863;nubbins`;anyway, time i guess to make sure my virtex account is cleared out. 421884;1387066895;nubbins`;this is going to make it a lot harder for my business to accept btc 421885;1387066999;nubbins`;ok, after reading further, it looks like holders can redeem their havelock shares for actual share certificates from virtex 421886;1387067025;nubbins`;at least they can't sell them 421887;1387067043;pankkake;and what do they get, CAD dividends? 421888;1387067075;mircea_popescu;the thing never paid dividends. 421889;1387067123;mircea_popescu;the entire bs is there to give idiots something to do with their time. "learn how to tapdance and then get your coupon for a chance to get an option to dance in front of the tv". 421890;1387067140;mircea_popescu;you know, rather than spending that same time hunting us down. 421891;1387067144;pankkake;so basically they steal your stuff but give you a paper instead 421892;1387067161;mircea_popescu;this is exactly what btc is not about. 421893;1387067185;pankkake;yeah, that's a government trademark 421894;1387067187;nubbins`;pankkake yes 421895;1387067201;nubbins`;"VirtEx took 4000 btc from an IPO in March ($150K) promising a dividend that they never delivered. Now, only 9 months later, their market reap is worth $3.6M (quite the gestation) and they are exiting the exchange. No dividend, no buyback, simply a promise to exchange currently held shares for "something else". " 421896;1387067214;pankkake;but how virtex never paid dividends? the exchange was still operating at a loss? 421897;1387067223;nubbins`;no, they were making money hand-over-fist. 421898;1387067224;asciilifeform;wtf is with 'virtex' anyway. every time i think 'xilinx'. what's next? btc product called 'coca cola' ? 421899;1387067239;nubbins`;pankkake: the "new, lower" fees are 1.5% on every trade 421900;1387067242;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform was a canada-only btc/cad exchange 421901;1387067244;nubbins`;hand. over. fist. 421902;1387067262;nubbins`;scoundrels 421903;1387067328;pankkake;that's quite expensive for an exchange 421904;1387067338;pankkake;perhaps there are not enough canadians 421905;1387067343;nubbins`;well, ya know, volume. 421906;1387067355;nubbins`;7 day: 3000 btc 421907;1387067367;nubbins`;although that's still taking the piss 421908;1387067375;nubbins`;;calc 3000*.015 421909;1387067386;pankkake;better than bitcoin-central :p 421910;1387067387;mircea_popescu;don't they charge the 1.5 both ways ? 421911;1387067389;nubbins`;;;calc 3000*.015*[ticker --last] 421912;1387067389;gribble;40686.525 421913;1387067391;nubbins`;mircea_popescu: yes 421914;1387067393;mircea_popescu;they do mpex style one side only ? 421915;1387067395;mircea_popescu;so then .03 421916;1387067399;pankkake;which is considered "high fee" with its 0.59 421917;1387067403;nubbins`;okay so they only made $40k CAD per week in fees 421918;1387067408;nubbins`;not so bad 421919;1387067418;pankkake;mpex is one side only? seller? 421920;1387067423;nubbins`;i mean, they do have like a handful of employees 421921;1387067424;mircea_popescu;yes. 421922;1387067435;nubbins`;;;calc 3000*.03*[ticker --last] 421923;1387067436;gribble;81373.05 421924;1387067437;pankkake;like havelock :p 421925;1387067450;pankkake;somehow I figured it was just easier to have the fee only on the seller side 421926;1387067456;mircea_popescu;nubbins` poverty and managerial incompetence are always poor excuses. they claimed they were an exchange, and can compete. then they should be an exchange and compete, 421927;1387067456;nubbins`;well if they don't plan on paying divs, there's either some serious salaries or some really shiny iMacs 421928;1387067471;mircea_popescu;rather than expect the public to donate thousands of btc to prop up their unwarranted pretensions and delusions. 421929;1387067511;nubbins`;mircea_popescu: i wonder what will happen to the shares of people who don't want to hand over all their personal info? 421930;1387067521;nubbins`;bought back at a "reasonable market rate", no doubt 421931;1387067535;mircea_popescu;it's called the gigavps scam for a reason. 421932;1387067565;nubbins`;well, if nothing else, you can trade your name, address, etc for shares in an actual registered company 421933;1387067582;mircea_popescu;you can do that with five cents and a copy of the pink sheets. 421934;1387067599;mircea_popescu;if i wanted my gold arbitrarily transformed into worthless paper i'd be a us citizen. 421935;1387067604;nubbins`;sounds like a bum deal, personall 421936;1387067606;nubbins`;*y 421937;1387067615;nubbins`;oh ho! good one 421938;1387067622;KRS|Gotyawallet;heh 421939;1387067643;KRS|Gotyawallet;its not worthless!!! 421940;1387067651;KRS|Gotyawallet;a lot of it buys 1 bitcoin. 421941;1387067662;nubbins`;i wonder what the laws are regarding foreign ownership of shares 421942;1387067758;nubbins`;there was a big stink about a new wireless company not being allowed to open its doors because it was majority foreign-owned, but i'm not sure if there was industry-specific legislation 421943;1387067828;mircea_popescu;http://bitbet.us/bet/495/there-will-be-blood/ 421944;1387067831;ozbot;BitBet - There will be blood 421945;1387067832;mircea_popescu;all three, you hear ? 421946;1387067925;pankkake;http://bitbet.us/bet/617/and-then-there-was-one//?ref=1Eck6cgGzEb9N42CFhcsCBQhZQStoJbHRK 421947;1387067928;ozbot;BitBet - And Then There Was One 421948;1387067985;mircea_popescu;tough one. 421949;1387068027;pankkake;http://bitbet.us/bet/654/havelock-to-restrict-us-investors-before-dec-1st/ might be easier 421950;1387068028;ozbot;BitBet - Havelock to restrict US investors before Dec 1st 2014 421951;1387068035;pankkake;2 ways to win 421952;1387068051;mircea_popescu;7 deadly sins, 7 ways to win 421953;1387068059;mircea_popescu;7 holy paths to hell (and your trip begins) 421954;1387068072;mircea_popescu;seven downward slopes... seven bloodied hopes... seven are your burning fires... 421955;1387068076;mircea_popescu;seven, your desires... 421956;1387068090;nubbins`;pankkake: i lost on a similar one earlier this year 421957;1387068094;nubbins`;nov 5 421958;1387068099;pankkake;yeah, I lost it too 421959;1387068144;pankkake;bah, it was hedging! 421960;1387068170;pankkake;(not that it stopped everything on havecock from −90%ing) 421961;1387068218;nubbins`;interesting times 421962;1387068226;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8744 @ 0.00089977 = 7.8676 BTC [+] 421963;1387068269;KRS|Gotyawallet;whats the deal with havelock 421964;1387068293;KRS|Gotyawallet;heard the u.s. is freezing assets with panama or something 421965;1387068325;KRS|Gotyawallet;wonder how events like this play out with bitcoin 421966;1387068408;nubbins`;hm, there aren't any financial reports for vtx? 421967;1387068459;mircea_popescu;usagi was busy. 421968;1387068512;mircea_popescu;from the holy shit dept : https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BbZElwQCAAEzod-.jpg 421969;1387068585;KRS|Gotyawallet;The White House said Friday the decision to freeze U.S. assets of firms in Panama, Singapore and Ukraine represented actions based on existing sanctions. 421970;1387068642;pankkake;shouldn't really affect havelock… maybe cfig which is now the same guys apparently 421971;1387068669;pankkake;"Using silly terms like “CEO of worldcoin” and “CIO of feathercoin” in their press release, UNOCS amounted to one of the most pathetic and transparent pump and dump schemes in recent times, yet people still managed to fall for it" - CEO of an altcoin. omg 421972;1387068747;mircea_popescu;KRS|Gotyawallet the ussoviet govt is running short on cash. 421973;1387068758;mircea_popescu;it's either this or no food stamps next week. 421974;1387068817;asciilifeform;in other news, http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/china-successfully-completes-first-soft-landing-on-moon-in-37-years/2013/12/14/fad6ffb4-64c6-11e3-af0d-4bb80d704888_story.html?tid=pm_world_pop 421975;1387068836;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.26787751 = 0.5358 BTC [+] 421976;1387068872;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform you know 40 years ago that'd have touched off a space race. 421977;1387068878;asciilifeform;haha 421978;1387068879;mircea_popescu;back when the beast still had some spunk in it. 421979;1387068931;mircea_popescu;so you know... this shangri-la you speak of ? where o where is it ? 421980;1387068947;asciilifeform;only in imagination. 421981;1387068967;asciilifeform;that or, sits! waiting! 421982;1387069012;mircea_popescu;orly. 421983;1387069029;mircea_popescu;sits, waiting, while china spends 20 years developing complete tactical superiority in every field. 421984;1387069039;asciilifeform;anyone knows the story of a man called Anatoliy Golitsyn? 421985;1387069050;mircea_popescu;are you aware the only reason the us army is not completely exterminated to the last man currently is that the chinese do not WANT to ? 421986;1387069065;asciilifeform;he escaped from ussr and became chums with the famous james jesus angleton. 421987;1387069083;mircea_popescu;guy that escaped to britain ? 421988;1387069084;mircea_popescu;ya ok. 421989;1387069090;asciilifeform;and he believed (and, afaik, still does, seems to be alive) that the ussr faked its death. 421990;1387069100;asciilifeform;that it's sitting and waiting somewhere. 421991;1387069143;KRS|Gotyawallet;thanks..gonna do some reading up on all that..i must say, some interesting times we are in. 421992;1387069143;asciilifeform;he whispered in angleton's ear, and to anyone else who'd listen, that the collapse was a sham. 421993;1387069190;asciilifeform;another guy, Nosenko, defected soon after, and told CIA that G was full of shit 421994;1387069191;KRS|Gotyawallet;I'm sorry mircea_popescu, when you say "this" did you mean bitcoin or the situation with Iran and all that. 421995;1387069198;jurov;what a fancy way to explain velvet revolution 421996;1387069204;asciilifeform;whereupon angleton had N starved in a dungeon for a few years 421997;1387069209;asciilifeform;so he'd 'confess' 421998;1387069241;mircea_popescu;KRS|Gotyawallet in the food stamps context ? the stealing of people's money by the usg. 421999;1387069256;KRS|Gotyawallet;ah ok. 422000;1387069269;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform hard angle to sell for all the people that were offered to buy still workjing nuclear subs. 422001;1387069278;asciilifeform;that came later. 422002;1387069282;asciilifeform;after A was fired. 422003;1387069284;mircea_popescu;so did it or didn't it ? 422004;1387069289;KRS|Gotyawallet;anyone have word on cyprus? that was big news a while back and I was wondering if bitcoin was of help to them. 422005;1387069307;asciilifeform;that isn't the point. the point that there are always people at a wake saying the corpse isn't one, until it starts to stink. 422006;1387069315;mircea_popescu;and after. 422007;1387069320;asciilifeform;sometimes even after. 422008;1387069326;mircea_popescu;there are still people who figure germany had a decent shot in ww2. 422009;1387069356;asciilifeform;there are people (i'm told, in sweden) who believe that nazis still run everything. 422010;1387069397;mircea_popescu;which they do, inasmuch as they handling money can't be libertards, and a sliver of libertards believe everyone who's not equally retarded is a fascist 422011;1387069401;mircea_popescu;starting with their parents. 422012;1387069629;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 40 @ 0.05 = 2 BTC 422013;1387069791;KRS|Gotyawallet;what do you all think about amt mining hardware? nwcwe heard of em 422014;1387069871;mircea_popescu;link or something ? 422015;1387069897;asciilifeform;are there actually happy miners somewhere (vs. mining hw vendors), or are they all busily going broke and cursing each other for the 'arms race' ? 422016;1387069938;KRS|Gotyawallet;of course..it is an arms race indeed and they're killing each other over it 422017;1387070021;asciilifeform;botnets appear to be switching to strategically ddosing pools instead of mining. 422018;1387070039;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform mining is not intended or designed to be a productive activity generally. 422019;1387070040;asciilifeform;(i study botnets) 422020;1387070053;mircea_popescu;it's intended to approximately break even, which means most people will book a loss. 422021;1387070074;asciilifeform;that's my understanding. which leaves the question: wtf? 422022;1387070084;asciilifeform;why do people play 422023;1387070103;mircea_popescu;(which adds cosmic perspective to the mpex view of the world, imagine there exists another whole "Ecosystem" out there made principally out of companies whose business model is operating in a not profitable by design market, and those are 90%+ of the revenue) 422024;1387070141;KRS|Gotyawallet;asciilifeform: where i used to work we got hacked and one of our servers was made part of a botnet..i tracked them down to an irc channel in the philippines..done with perl..it was pretty basic stuff but still cool to take apart. they got in because the idiots setting up the server didn't secure the /tmp directory and jboss had its admin console exposed. 422025;1387070150;mircea_popescu;anyway, people mine because if they don't mine then it's profitable 422026;1387070154;mircea_popescu;if they do hopwever it is not. 422027;1387070157;mircea_popescu;perfect cocktrap. 422028;1387070174;KRS|Gotyawallet;management was too busy worrying about time to market and couldnt be bothered with sill things like security 422029;1387070177;asciilifeform;two drunks each pay the other $100 to eat spoon of shit. 422030;1387070186;mircea_popescu;precisely. 422031;1387070211;mircea_popescu;mpoe-pr quoted buffett on the textile market to the forum until she fell over. 422032;1387070222;mircea_popescu;it isn't something that can be helped symbolically. 422033;1387070249;asciilifeform;i once saw the term 'tournament market' used to describe this situation 422034;1387070273;mircea_popescu;it's a really great way to use the market for a good purpose. in this case, we get the strongest blockchain money can buy. 422035;1387070276;mircea_popescu;other people's money. 422036;1387070279;asciilifeform;and that it is normal and unavoidable in some spheres (athletic hopefuls, junior professors, etc.) 422037;1387070289;mircea_popescu;this isn't that thio. 422038;1387070300;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00090226 = 8.4812 BTC [+] 422039;1387070303;asciilifeform;most of the participants get fucked, the survivors win. 422040;1387070310;mircea_popescu;the similarity is superficial. 422041;1387070329;mircea_popescu;a tournament market, like typiocally the 1mn starlets waiting tables in hollywood is there to exploit labour. 422042;1387070335;mircea_popescu;this system is here to exploit capital. 422043;1387070348;pankkake;maybe if mining stays out of amateurs it will be profitable 422044;1387070359;mircea_popescu;that's exactly what can't happen. 422045;1387070370;mircea_popescu;mining has to be "distributed", which means, it must remain unprofitable for large ventures. 422046;1387070372;pankkake;because those certainly don't want to understand they will lose 422047;1387070402;pankkake;it has to be decentralized, who cares about being distributed 422048;1387070447;mircea_popescu;i guess the two are synonyms in this context. 422049;1387070455;asciilifeform;i often wonder, how much centralization would it take to send people running for the exits 422050;1387070467;asciilifeform;say beijing builds an optical computer out of unobtainium 422051;1387070474;pankkake;meh. people seem to thing every little guy mining is good 422052;1387070481;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform you're asking "how much worsening of italian delis would take for mobsters to abandon manhattan" 422053;1387070481;pankkake;I just think that no central authority is good 422054;1387070491;mircea_popescu;it will never happen, they will start shooting deli owners in the street. 422055;1387070496;pankkake;better be big businesses than 15 year old gamers 422056;1387070516;mircea_popescu;pankkake i am one who believes every little guy mining is good. 422057;1387070522;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: more like 'how much background radiation would it take to get mobsters out of manhattan' 422058;1387070527;pankkake;use litecoin then :p 422059;1387070540;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=201268.msg2121475#msg2121475 that's the story, if you care. 422060;1387070693;asciilifeform;reminds me of russia's (and, for that matter, u.s.) disappearing auto industry 422061;1387070708;asciilifeform;all good and well, rational to close down the plants, until the boats with toyotas stop coming. 422062;1387070748;mircea_popescu;which is why small guys mining is good. 422063;1387070752;mircea_popescu;it's like farming. 422064;1387070796;mircea_popescu;(of course, in this perspective mega-bitcoin-corporations a la asicminer are small guys too) 422065;1387071642;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.261 = 0.522 BTC [-] 422066;1387071814;KRS|Gotyawallet;anyone have a comment on amt mining gear 422067;1387071888;mircea_popescu;KRS|Gotyawallet why do you think this is even a thing ? 422068;1387071915;mircea_popescu;noob makes random thread on btctalk five weeks ago. he's nobody and his thing doesn't exist. 422069;1387071974;KRS|Gotyawallet;damnit..such scam. much drama 422070;1387072028;KRS|Gotyawallet;i want to scam the scammer someday..that would be +10000 422071;1387072032;mircea_popescu;russellthies Jr. Member, 5 posts : "I received an email from Jim on Dec. 3rd, regarding my 1.2 th/s order (541). At that time he told me that they were working on the final "board tweaks" and that if they were late it would be by a week or so." 422072;1387072043;mircea_popescu;noobs will be noobs. 422073;1387072091;KRS|Gotyawallet;the crux of the problem is nobody wants to seek funding for their venture, they'd rather take "preorder" money as capital to launch their offering..since when should the customer take that risk 422074;1387072096;KRS|Gotyawallet;you said it..noobs. 422075;1387072097;mircea_popescu;KRS|Gotyawallet you can't "scam the scammer" because the scammer has enough fucking sense to respect the first rule of investing, which is, don't randomly sent btc. 422076;1387072100;mircea_popescu;that's the end of that. 422077;1387072110;KRS|Gotyawallet;word 422078;1387072129;KRS|Gotyawallet;but it would be nice 422079;1387072135;mircea_popescu;anyway, there are instruments to handle these problem, as described http://trilema.com/2013/the-positive-market-effects-of-the-delivery-bet/ 422080;1387072141;mircea_popescu;all people need to do is use them. 422081;1387072147;mircea_popescu;if they don't want to use them... why's that a problem. 422082;1387072157;KRS|Gotyawallet;hmm 422083;1387072435;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 303 @ 0.00283499 = 0.859 BTC [+] {2} 422084;1387072436;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 886 @ 0.001 = 0.886 BTC 422085;1387072456;mircea_popescu;KRS|Gotyawallet were you around back when primeasic showed and disappeared ? 422086;1387072480;KRS|Gotyawallet;yes this article is exactly what im talking about 422087;1387072506;KRS|Gotyawallet;they were but a spec on the timeline i long forgot about that name 422088;1387072520;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/primeasic-most-likely-a-scam/ 422089;1387072520;ozbot;PrimeAsic - Most likely a scam. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 422090;1387072526;mircea_popescu;some prime investigative reporting by kakobrekla there. 422091;1387072527;KRS|Gotyawallet;there was so much other news, barely caught my eye 422092;1387072535;KRS|Gotyawallet;haha 422093;1387072535;mircea_popescu;this is why we don't care about such. noobs don't get to start businesses. 422094;1387072578;KRS|Gotyawallet;my problem is i have to identify each offering to find out if they've made a significant investment..on the surface, i have no idea..and its a shame these other folks dond either. ie skyminer 422095;1387072589;KRS|Gotyawallet;took people for 1000's of btc afaik 422096;1387072595;mircea_popescu;"people". 422097;1387072601;mircea_popescu;people know better than that. 422098;1387072662;mircea_popescu;noob starts business ? scam. end of discussion, no questuions asked. if he's a businessman he's known. 422099;1387072680;mircea_popescu;mining venture taking preorders and no delivery bet ? scam. no questions need to be asked or answered past "what's the link to your delivery bet" 422100;1387072739;KRS|Gotyawallet;i noticed they wont even blast their offering out there, it will be something subtle like a link in a trollbox somewhere so some sucker is all juicy over btc fortunes he just plunks down his 12 btc or whatever 422101;1387072767;mircea_popescu;gotta learn somehow, you know ? 422102;1387072787;KRS|Gotyawallet;actually its good both ways, darwin effect at work in business 422103;1387072802;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] [PAID] 1.34510223 BTC to 9`573 shares, 14051 satoshi per share 422104;1387072855;KRS|Gotyawallet;i need a scam..not sure what though..mass mailings is getting old 422105;1387072903;asciilifeform;KRS|Gotyawallet: sell gpu cards with magic firmware to ltc miners. 422106;1387072904;KRS|Gotyawallet;deface scam sites, redirect btc payments from noobs 422107;1387072932;asciilifeform;KRS|Gotyawallet: set up tor exits which replace SD addrs with yours. 422108;1387072938;KRS|Gotyawallet;NICE 422109;1387072957;asciilifeform;since when is there a shortage of ideas for cheats 422110;1387072970;KRS|Gotyawallet;haha very crevar 422111;1387072975;mircea_popescu;not something you'd wish to do, really. 422112;1387072997;asciilifeform;i mean, if you're not above scam 422113;1387073048;mircea_popescu;the irony embedded in the entire fucktard ecosystem (meaning, the noobs and those fleecing them) is that it really is quite self limiting and not particularly prosperous. 422114;1387073076;mircea_popescu;ie, being a scammer is not really so many steps about being a clueless noob. 422115;1387073093;asciilifeform;there's a delicate predator-prey equilibrium, though 422116;1387073124;asciilifeform;if some clever fellow runs a scam, he will harvest so many idiots that that particular species of scam won't work again - at least not without major cosmetic remodelling. 422117;1387073125;mircea_popescu;not really, most situations evolve as boundless systems 422118;1387073151;mircea_popescu;that particularly is not true, the warrior forum is still running two or three major scams pioneered in 1995 422119;1387073164;mircea_popescu;just like the porn studios are still basically doing, boy meets girl, boy gets girl. 422120;1387073192;asciilifeform;i still suspect that there is a large - but finite - supply of chumpatron fuel. at least of any particular variety. 422121;1387073197;mircea_popescu;what else are they gonna do. once they're in porn they're in porn. 422122;1387073211;KRS|Gotyawallet;no going back 422123;1387073215;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform yes. it equals exactly "entitlement" spending by governments. 422124;1387073240;mircea_popescu;look at the us budget for each year, you'll know about how much the taxpayer is paying to support scammers. 422125;1387073261;KRS|Gotyawallet;its like dick sucking..a guy cant just go and suck one dick and still be straight. even though it was just one dick he's a faggot. 422126;1387073268;asciilifeform;'great fleas have little fleas, on their backs to bite them...' 422127;1387073293;KRS|Gotyawallet;just because he sucked one dick does that make him gay? 422128;1387073322;asciilifeform;'bob the bridge-builder.' 422129;1387073344;KRS|Gotyawallet;ascoolifeform ever sniff an exit node 422130;1387073350;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.24530035 = 0.7359 BTC [-] {3} 422131;1387073362;KRS|Gotyawallet;ii 422132;1387073388;asciilifeform;KRS|Gotyawallet: no comment. but i recommend the exercise. 422133;1387073403;KRS|Gotyawallet;thats what i thought 422134;1387073418;asciilifeform;if you publish your results, do it in some way that cannot be readily linked to you in meatspace. 422135;1387073423;asciilifeform;lest you end up like that swede. 422136;1387073463;KRS|Gotyawallet;i wouldnt know how to publish results like that without taking it up the ass so i just site out the whole exercise. 422137;1387073472;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.24309999 = 2.431 BTC [-] {4} 422138;1387073477;KRS|Gotyawallet;i mean..i could i just dont have the effort in me 422139;1387073508;asciilifeform;it doesn't take long. 422140;1387073510;KRS|Gotyawallet;the net has become so clandestine now 422141;1387073550;KRS|Gotyawallet;i lived for years and years with a black cloud over my head from all the tele op phreaking i did as a kid, professional warez importer..got tired of looking over my shoulder. 422142;1387073551;asciilifeform;funnily, tor has made lusers' traffic more public than it ever was before. 422143;1387073555;KRS|Gotyawallet;mci hated me 422144;1387073572;KRS|Gotyawallet;yeah thats the beauty of it rly 422145;1387073716;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.243 = 1.458 BTC [-] 422146;1387074082;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00090226 = 1.6241 BTC [+] 422147;1387074753;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32700 @ 0.0009033 = 29.5379 BTC [+] {3} 422148;1387074814;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 23 @ 0.05 = 1.15 BTC 422149;1387075363;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.24280002 = 0.9712 BTC [-] {3} 422150;1387075424;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2426 BTC [-] 422151;1387075485;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.24252 = 0.485 BTC [-] {2} 422152;1387075790;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10250 @ 0.0009044 = 9.2701 BTC [+] {2} 422153;1387075908;copumpkin;MPOE is doing pretty well these days 422154;1387076825;pankkake;WIP: http://pastebin.com/9xxtby4f 422155;1387076827;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 60 @ 0.05 = 3 BTC 422156;1387077193;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23504 @ 0.00090477 = 21.2657 BTC [+] 422157;1387078048;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 114 @ 0.05 = 5.7 BTC 422158;1387078108;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35923 @ 0.00090026 = 32.34 BTC [-] {2} 422159;1387078169;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.05 = 0.5 BTC 422160;1387079047;bloctoc;copumpkin don't these people know that bbet has a bunch of bets expiring year end? 422161;1387079064;copumpkin;I don't either :) 422162;1387079066;copumpkin;what bets? 422163;1387079127;bloctoc;not really sure myself, just got pumping I guesss 422164;1387079721;mircea_popescu;what people ? 422165;1387079778;fiat500;what do you mean /you people/ 422166;1387079849;mircea_popescu;copumpkin it just had a bad month actually. 422167;1387079861;copumpkin;yeah, I saw the latest report 422168;1387079869;copumpkin;perhaps people are hopeful for the next month :) 422169;1387079963;mircea_popescu;as it is shares don't really care. 422170;1387080024;copumpkin;yeah, that's why I have shares :P 422171;1387080025;bloctoc;I mean the people buying mpoe instead of bitbet shares at the year's end. 422172;1387080123;mircea_popescu;that latest looks more like it was a sale 422173;1387080131;mircea_popescu;anyway, im off. catch you all later. 422174;1387080304;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.254 BTC [+] 422175;1387080975;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17027 @ 0.00089812 = 15.2923 BTC [-] 422176;1387083293;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.246 BTC [-] 422177;1387084391;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 766 @ 0.00222492 = 1.7043 BTC [-] {17} 422178;1387084574;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1010 @ 0.001 = 1.01 BTC 422179;1387085916;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34800 @ 0.00090477 = 31.486 BTC [+] 422180;1387087990;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25750 @ 0.00090477 = 23.2978 BTC [+] 422181;1387088539;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19945 @ 0.00090493 = 18.0488 BTC [+] {3} 422182;1387088600;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12554 @ 0.00090562 = 11.3692 BTC [+] 422183;1387089942;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 88900 @ 0.00090571 = 80.5176 BTC [+] {2} 422184;1387090063;copumpkin;wow 422185;1387090067;copumpkin;someone's bullish on MPOE :) 422186;1387091467;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.24428999 = 2.4429 BTC [-] {3} 422187;1387091528;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.24158949 = 4.8318 BTC [-] {8} 422188;1387093541;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47900 @ 0.00090306 = 43.2566 BTC [-] {2} 422189;1387093541;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.24 = 0.48 BTC [-] {2} 422190;1387096300;thestringpuller;hashtag mod6 422191;1387097384;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17090 @ 0.00090359 = 15.4424 BTC [+] {2} 422192;1387097445;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5540 @ 0.00090324 = 5.0039 BTC [-] 422193;1387098726;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13850 @ 0.00090309 = 12.5078 BTC [-] {3} 422194;1387100739;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 26 @ 0.25220829 = 6.5574 BTC [+] {7} 422195;1387101715;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15541 @ 0.0009023 = 14.0226 BTC [-] 422196;1387101715;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.26762999 = 2.6763 BTC [+] {4} 422197;1387101776;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2677 BTC [+] 422198;1387101961;Vexual;will these kids know if i buy finely hopped beer instead of vet treatment for my cancerous canine with my doge profits? 422199;1387102081;assbot;[MPEX] [O] [O.USD.P140T] 8 @ 0.11570692 = 0.9257 BTC [+] 422200;1387102264;assbot;[MPEX] [O] [O.USD.P125T] 11 @ 0.08898885 = 0.9789 BTC [+] 422201;1387102805;Vexual;a new wave of crypto kids 422202;1387102884;Vexual;perhaps a new block viewer instance 422203;1387103135;Vexual;http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x27hq6_warren-g-regulators_music 422204;1387103147;Vexual;hahhaha 422205;1387103566;Vexual;what a week its been 422206;1387103642;Vexual;honestly im scared to sell any bitcoin incae the foundation says i dont have enough to send 422207;1387103683;Vexual;foundation is getting everyone ready for 9.. 422208;1387103690;Vexual;dogecoin happened 422209;1387103732;Vexual;12000 reserve banks made statements about bitcoin, where the sum total of the info was no 422210;1387103734;Vexual;ne 422211;1387103758;Vexual;and i got arrested 422212;1387103820;Vexual;just drunk and disorderly tho, so its hardly news 422213;1387104033;Vexual;so despite my interlude with toothless father stabbers and seemingly comatose quiet lovers, i still didnt make it to an airport to buy fortune for future signature 422214;1387104080;Duffer1;assbot is a good listener bro 422215;1387104088;Vexual;silly duffer 422216;1387104095;Duffer1;<3 422217;1387104104;Vexual;<3 422218;1387104189;Vexual;i guess cuba is still a dream 422219;1387104202;Duffer1;what's in cuba? 422220;1387104239;Duffer1;so you were on your way to cuba but got too drunk instead then got picked up by the cops? 422221;1387104298;Vexual;no i was fairly in my own house believe it or not 422222;1387104312;Duffer1;ouch 422223;1387104372;Vexual;i goty lippy and was assisted on to public property where i duly remained lippy knowing the extent of the facism 422224;1387104396;Duffer1;man that shit should be illegal 422225;1387104402;Vexual;u new? 422226;1387104414;Duffer1;ha no just lucky, and quiet 422227;1387104446;Vexual;me too, now 422228;1387104542;Duffer1;anyone underage on your property? 422229;1387104548;Duffer1;when i happened i mean 422230;1387104550;Duffer1;it 422231;1387104587;Vexual;fuck no 422232;1387104605;Duffer1;good man 422233;1387104614;Vexual;lol 422234;1387104630;Vexual;just me no bail 422235;1387104656;Vexual;just the drunk tank 422236;1387104683;Duffer1;you were alone? i just assumed you threw a party 422237;1387104690;Vexual;noone came 422238;1387104701;Duffer1;how do you get drunk n disorderly from you own home, alone? 422239;1387104717;Vexual;did you say how often? 422240;1387104800;BingoBoingo;"Disorderly" is merely legal speak for "We don't much like you" 422241;1387105085;Vexual;finished work? yeah, i do computer stuff 422242;1387105420;Vexual;i had you pegged as a musician 422243;1387105436;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7961 @ 0.00090294 = 7.1883 BTC [+] 422244;1387105489;Vexual;bella, pour the drinks 422245;1387105605;Vexual;got a dollar for the junkbox? 422246;1387105615;Vexual;my eyes are up here 422247;1387105690;Vexual;you're cybering yourself 422248;1387105710;Vexual;shhhhh 422249;1387106023;Vexual;no handel? 422250;1387106061;Duffer1;assbot doesn't give very good text though :( 422251;1387106091;Vexual;i dunno, i like to see those coins moving 422252;1387106140;Duffer1;she's just so robotic about it, hard to get into it you know 422253;1387106162;Vexual;i always felt assbot was masculine 422254;1387106222;Duffer1;we may never know for sure 422255;1387106230;b0n1;hey there! I try to export trading data from bitstamp with sierracharts but strangely i get inhomogenous time steps 422256;1387106243;Vexual;i think if a bot is female, one knows 422257;1387106271;b0n1;that means i have a measurement point at t and the next is at t+x and the other next is at t+y with x=!y 422258;1387106280;b0n1;really strange 422259;1387106300;b0n1;someone made similar experience? 422260;1387106317;Vexual;i felt the milk out for a time step that left in inhomogenous 422261;1387106368;Duffer1;try searching bitcointalk forums, there's good spreadsheet tips around there 422262;1387106794;Vexual;u might want to hit up the work forums about taking spreadsheet skills off your resume too 422263;1387106804;Vexual;*word 422264;1387106887;jurov;SPREADSHEET KILLS 422265;1387106893;Vexual;dont they 422266;1387106924;Vexual;when you atart to need macros, geesh 422267;1387106957;BingoBoingo;Csv, Ftw! 422268;1387106972;Vexual;so no handel? 422269;1387107004;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU-vdq7QxvY 422270;1387107004;ozbot;Bingo Bango - Basement Jaxx - YouTube 422271;1387107031;Vexual;can i get some $2 coins and the snooker balls? 422272;1387107048;Vexual;just 8 ball 422273;1387107069;Vexual;bottom shelf, there, thats it, way down low, mick said it was okay 422274;1387107177;Vexual;u never played snooker? 422275;1387107236;Vexual;well u bend it like beckham, thanks for the coins 422276;1387107459;BingoBoingo;Usually I just play 8 ball 422277;1387107484;Vexual;8 ball is goode 422278;1387107581;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkwD5rQ-_d4 422279;1387107581;ozbot;The Toadies - Possum Kingdom - YouTube 422280;1387108013;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mns9VeRguys&noredirect=1 422281;1387108014;ozbot;Bob Dylan - Duquesne Whistle - YouTube 422282;1387108152;Duffer1;bob dylan - brownsville girl 422283;1387108251;Vexual;still one song left on $2 422284;1387108367;Vexual;kako should make a junkox bot 422285;1387108426;Vexual;pay to play 422286;1387108649;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0bS-YnLf4s 422287;1387108650;ozbot;Flight Facilities - Crave you Feat. Giselle [Official Video] - YouTube 422288;1387108670;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57900 @ 0.00090447 = 52.3688 BTC [+] {3} 422289;1387109889;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30650 @ 0.00090164 = 27.6353 BTC [-] {3} 422290;1387110072;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 250 @ 0.001 = 0.25 BTC 422291;1387111231;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 25 @ 0.03474022 = 0.8685 BTC [-] {7} 422292;1387111475;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 54 @ 0.00220371 = 0.119 BTC [-] {2} 422293;1387111803;azoo;is this havelock company legit? 422294;1387111870;BingoBoingo;azoo: Looking less like it every day 422295;1387111943;azoo;BingoBoingo: why 422296;1387111963;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 277 @ 0.00221 = 0.6122 BTC [+] {2} 422297;1387112005;BingoBoingo;azoo: Check http://logs.bitcoin-assets.com 422298;1387112024;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 150 @ 0.0022 = 0.33 BTC [-] {3} 422299;1387112051;Duffer1;none of the assets they offer have come close to matching btc itself 422300;1387112061;Duffer1;most of their offers haven't even started paying divs 422301;1387112074;Duffer1;it's like a bitcoin blackhole 422302;1387112080;mircea_popescu;azoo no havelock company is legit, 422303;1387112089;mircea_popescu;havelock itself is run as a scam by scammers. 422304;1387112132;Duffer1;like a bitcoin cocain straw, your money is their blow 422305;1387112146;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 74 @ 0.00220955 = 0.1635 BTC [+] {2} 422306;1387112177;azoo;to matching btc istself.. what do you mean by that? 422307;1387112187;azoo;mircea_popescu: can you back this by some facts? 422308;1387112220;Duffer1;the appreciation of bitcoin in fiat outpaced value appreciation of all of havelocks offerings 422309;1387112225;Duffer1;by a mile, it's not even close 422310;1387112236;mircea_popescu;azoo sure. they reorganised as a entity run by "no one", recently. after which they allowed their largest company (virtex) to simply walk away from the investors 422311;1387112249;mircea_popescu;collected >4k btc this year, paid no dividends, is now gone. 422312;1387112280;Apocalyptic;mircea, but you can have real shares now ! 422313;1387112302;mircea_popescu;otherwise, the statistical argument Duffer1 presents is sound. they never had a company that made investors a profit, and statisticallty they're batting the usual global scam exchange, -50% in 1/2 year. 422314;1387112322;mircea_popescu;Apocalyptic for any value of real that equals worthless. 422315;1387112332;Apocalyptic;i'm just trolling 422316;1387112338;mircea_popescu;oiknow :) 422317;1387112384;azoo;mircea_popescu: i am also considering (your?) mpoex site but its less obvious what is what:-) 422318;1387112395;azoo;mircea_popescu: is mpoex a scam as well 422319;1387112396;azoo;? 422320;1387112399;mircea_popescu;so read the contracts or w/e. 422321;1387112400;mircea_popescu;no. 422322;1387112406;mircea_popescu;also it's MPEx. 422323;1387112426;Apocalyptic;azoo, you're mixing 2 things up, there's no mpoex but mpex and mpoe 422324;1387112496;mircea_popescu;but to give you a proper sense of proportion : when s.dice delisted from mpex, it was actually announced it got sold off, rather than lie about it a la havelock. and then mpex investors got paid on the delisting. 422325;1387112505;mircea_popescu;this was someting a degree of magnitude larger, too. 422326;1387112512;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 4 @ 0.03099999 = 0.124 BTC [-] 422327;1387112520;azi_;can someone paste the recent chat I got DC'ed 422328;1387112522;mircea_popescu;because as far as bitcoin finance is concerned, mpex is now and always was a hefty 90% of it. 422329;1387112532;mircea_popescu;azi_ http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/ 422330;1387112532;azi_;last thing I got was someone saying I am confusing somethig 422331;1387112540;azi_;good 422332;1387112651;azi_;mircea_popescu: thanks. can you explain what this S.NSA thing is? 422333;1387112677;mircea_popescu;it's a company trying to make various gizmos. currently working on a gpg secure usb stick 422334;1387112690;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/category/snsa/ << you can read that set 422335;1387112691;ozbot;S.NSA pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 422336;1387112722;KRS|Gotyawallet;Check out this dual chip miner https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=355268.20 422337;1387112735;KRS|Gotyawallet;i like S.NSA 422338;1387112798;mircea_popescu;"It is possible to do scrypt with a fpga, so that implies asic is possible too." 422339;1387112845;mircea_popescu;kinda funny 422340;1387112875;mircea_popescu;http://bitbet.us/bet/665/litecoin-ltc-to-over-1b-market-cap-before/ << lmao srsly ? 422341;1387112876;ozbot;BitBet - LiteCoin (LTC) to over $1B market cap before Jan 15 422342;1387112878;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.1 = 0.2 BTC [+] 422343;1387112885;mircea_popescu;altcoins worth more than most us businesses now ? 422344;1387112903;Apocalyptic;coblee must be in heaven 422345;1387112930;mircea_popescu;defo. he premined a lot ? 422346;1387112940;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15083 @ 0.00090484 = 13.6477 BTC [+] {2} 422347;1387112946;Duffer1;696m that's impressive 422348;1387112955;Apocalyptic;~10% 422349;1387112964;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: I believe the reading from this spring was he an Artforz were GPU mining on launch, so not pre-mining but something similar. 422350;1387112997;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo i know, i know. just pushing teh button a little :) 422351;1387112999;KRS|Gotyawallet;yes i think asic is possible too 422352;1387113000;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12517 @ 0.00090574 = 11.3371 BTC [+] 422353;1387113016;KRS|Gotyawallet;not sure if they would have to use a jit translation before prossessing or not though 422354;1387113064;BingoBoingo;I'm just impressed how quickly people for got it. Like people forgot SolidCoin was a thing RealSolid did. Or that Vircurex was "hacked" twice and now wants to pay interest on deposits... 422355;1387113071;mircea_popescu;asic is not efficient, not really, cause you'll need to add memory bus and a bunch of clocking and so on 422356;1387113082;mircea_popescu;fpga + ram much better solution 422357;1387113086;mircea_popescu;unless you own a foundry, anyway. 422358;1387113089;Apocalyptic;BingoBoingo, that amazes me as well 422359;1387113108;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo it's not that anyone forgot. it's that nobody of the idiots going for such things makes it long enough 422360;1387113115;mircea_popescu;so it's always new people falling for the scams. 422361;1387113152;Duffer1;and foreigners 422362;1387113161;KRS|Gotyawallet;heres another lawl https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=1397.0 422363;1387113214;BingoBoingo;I'm actually amazed by how often I'll run into people on lesser channels who have been trying to make milk come out of faucets for months then emerge after having done no reading for a year to ask "Why do faucets pay less?" 422364;1387113216;KRS|Gotyawallet;Here's the part that gets me: The proof-of-work would be switched to the signature of our private key and we would set up a server to produce one block every 2 minutes. 422365;1387113263;mircea_popescu;KRS|Gotyawallet where's that ? 422366;1387113276;KRS|Gotyawallet;i pasted the linke ^^ 422367;1387113283;mircea_popescu;lol bitsharestalk ? srsly ? 422368;1387113296;KRS|Gotyawallet;reading the rags 422369;1387113306;mircea_popescu;lmao. fucktard. 422370;1387113311;mircea_popescu;"1) Mining based upon resource consumption results in centralization." 422371;1387113335;mircea_popescu;noob puts on pope hat, makes blood-curdingly stupid general statement with all the authority of stupidity. 422372;1387113372;mircea_popescu;anyway, to get back to the prev point, the way it usually works is like this : muppet (usually young, ambitious, socially marginal character) finds out about bitcoin. 422373;1387113374;Duffer1;ha 422374;1387113398;mircea_popescu;within a day he's bouight some, and spends the next few days not sleeping enough and reading bullshit sources a la reddit. 422375;1387113415;mircea_popescu;within a week he's put most of his available cash into it, and is getting to a manic phase 422376;1387113422;mircea_popescu;consider : http://bitbet.us/bet/519/btc-network-difficulty-to-top-1b-before-2014/#c2087 422377;1387113461;mircea_popescu;so by now he's ripe for the plunder. makes some "investments" on the power of social proof, gets raped, gets depressed and gets to hear from all the (few) people in his life about how he failed again 422378;1387113482;mircea_popescu;after all, he ain't socially marginal for nothing, he's socially marginal because he has mental habits that don't promote success. 422379;1387113495;mircea_popescu;and that's all, it took three weeks. next month, new guy hears about bitcoin. 422380;1387113516;BingoBoingo;Lol, Maybe someone ought to sell Lithium Soda for BTC 422381;1387113528;mircea_popescu;except he wouldn't take it. 422382;1387113539;mircea_popescu;mpoe-pr sells lithium soda. our noob is more likely to ignore her. 422383;1387113660;Duffer1;and they don't even know you're actually trying to help them by paying her to do it 422384;1387113701;mircea_popescu;well some figure it out eventually. 422385;1387113909;mircea_popescu;upon rereading, KRS|Gotyawallet you realise "lmao fucktard" didn't mean you but the quoted kid. 422386;1387113915;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 56 @ 0.00250035 = 0.14 BTC [-] {5} 422387;1387114204;KRS|Gotyawallet;yeh 422388;1387114227;mircea_popescu;internets be misinterpretable i tell ya. 422389;1387114239;mircea_popescu;so, pre-announcement : 422390;1387114266;mircea_popescu;mpoe-pr just completed a 3 month long project of going through the forum and picking out the places where she called out a scam, people called her fud and then it turned out she was right. 422391;1387114276;mircea_popescu;it's like a mile long, and i;ll be publishing it soon. 422392;1387114284;KRS|Gotyawallet;People are going to continue to get hurt here. 422393;1387114289;Apocalyptic;heh, nice 422394;1387114309;mircea_popescu;so prepare a large mug of coffee, set your poppers to poppin' corn etc. 422395;1387114320;Duffer1;i hope you inlude that xxxprofit guy lol man.. what balls 422396;1387114325;KRS|Gotyawallet;This is just the beginning it seems..and i thought the offerings were maturing, we're turning the dial back to flat out retarded. 422397;1387114336;azoo;who are you guys talking about 422398;1387114345;azoo;looks like a nice success story :) 422399;1387114350;Duffer1;pretty much everyone azoo hehe 422400;1387114366;KRS|Gotyawallet;Yep. Duffer1- a Zoo 422401;1387114440;Duffer1;are there any instances where she was wrong? 422402;1387114501;mircea_popescu;Duffer1 not really. 422403;1387114519;mircea_popescu;she never called mpex stuff a scam, and that's everyone. 422404;1387114529;Duffer1;that's actually really depressing 422405;1387115318;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25800 @ 0.00090574 = 23.3681 BTC [+] 422406;1387115562;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.05 = 1 BTC 422407;1387115795;azoo;mircea_popescu: how does one actually buy shares on your site? 422408;1387115806;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3950 @ 0.00090574 = 3.5777 BTC [+] 422409;1387115817;mircea_popescu;dja read the faq ? 422410;1387116067;truffles;its a tarp 422411;1387116094;azoo;yeah i've already went to read the FAQ once 422412;1387116097;azoo;but it looked weird 422413;1387116120;mircea_popescu;well see, the idea is that people to whom it looks weird don't get to buy. 422414;1387116164;azoo;looked weird = as watching fear and loathing in las vegas :) 422415;1387116220;mircea_popescu;ha 422416;1387116250;Duffer1;azoo try coinbr 422417;1387116302;pigeons;yeah mermaids aren't weird 422418;1387116338;mircea_popescu;well... they float, they got tits... 422419;1387116346;mircea_popescu;seems oddly apt as a symbol for finance. 422420;1387116428;pigeons;should make an exact mpex clone with no new functionality just charge 5% to view it in a bootstrap template 422421;1387116613;azoo;forget about shares.. i'll just become a MPEx affiliate http://mpex.co/faq.html#13 422422;1387116646;azoo;earning 5BC in a simple as pie fashion :) 422423;1387116965;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20561 @ 0.00090661 = 18.6408 BTC [+] {2} 422424;1387117002;mircea_popescu;people have been known to do that. 422425;1387117148;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20400 @ 0.00090681 = 18.4989 BTC [+] 422426;1387117198;azoo;i think i fall into your category of idiots as i am still wondering if the 30BTC fee is a joke, troll, serious requirement or all of the tree 422427;1387117201;azoo;three* 422428;1387117575;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.24155555 = 2.174 BTC [-] {6} 422429;1387117602;kakobrekla;https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1511473_662172583834072_2104522041_n.jpg 422430;1387117636;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10188 @ 0.00090814 = 9.2521 BTC [+] {2} 422431;1387117880;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00090821 = 4.2686 BTC [+] 422432;1387118050;azoo;zivijo kakobrekla 422433;1387118185;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1477 @ 0.001 = 1.477 BTC 422434;1387118612;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.24 = 1.2 BTC [-] {2} 422435;1387118673;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30673 @ 0.00090425 = 27.7361 BTC [-] {3} 422436;1387118688;kakobrekla;zivjo azoo 422437;1387118705;kakobrekla;kaj bo dobrega :) 422438;1387118734;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.05 = 0.5 BTC 422439;1387118743;azoo;hm.. kakobreku... 422440;1387118784;kakobrekla;:p 422441;1387119173;mircea_popescu;azoo you familiar with the concept of "qualiified investor" ? 422442;1387119240;azoo;mircea_popescu: yes i've read about that sutff just now and it makes more sense 422443;1387119249;mircea_popescu;aite. 422444;1387119253;azoo;tho its quite pricy now that BC rised so much 422445;1387119265;mircea_popescu;it's still 30 btc. 422446;1387119273;azoo;yes 422447;1387119278;azoo;this is what i like about the site 422448;1387119289;azoo;but its a pain in the as as well as you also can understand I suppose 422449;1387119297;mircea_popescu;yup. 422450;1387119312;mircea_popescu;qualified investor. technologically and financially. 422451;1387119347;azoo;or qualified by luck 422452;1387119352;azoo;which is life I suppose :-) 422453;1387119363;mircea_popescu;luck always plays a part, in everythi8ng worth doing 422454;1387119377;mircea_popescu;but you're right, if you were here march-april 2012 you could have had one for free 422455;1387119380;mircea_popescu;some people did. 422456;1387119405;mircea_popescu;strangely enough, they all also knew one of python/perl/bash, had gpg sigs and are now rich. 422457;1387119425;mircea_popescu;so what i mean is... they still meet the quals, in spite of so much changing in the interim 422458;1387119427;mircea_popescu;funny how that works. 422459;1387119436;azoo;yeah I mean the site itself would drive off anyone not fammiliar with this stuff 422460;1387119466;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC 422461;1387119467;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 100 @ 0.05 = 5 BTC 422462;1387119568;mircea_popescu;well... they're all rich except kako. he just drives very expensive cars. 422463;1387119597;kakobrekla;lmao FU :D 422464;1387119601;mircea_popescu;hehe 422465;1387119671;azoo;btw when u talk about richeness you're again relating it to $$ 422466;1387119710;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22385 @ 0.00090199 = 20.191 BTC [-] {2} 422467;1387120137;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2150 @ 0.00090105 = 1.9373 BTC [-] 422468;1387120808;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16085 @ 0.00090186 = 14.5064 BTC [+] 422469;1387121479;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26600 @ 0.00090186 = 23.9895 BTC [+] 422470;1387121967;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.002825 = 0.565 BTC [+] 422471;1387122455;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1000 @ 0.00049998 = 0.5 BTC [+] {3} 422472;1387122577;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 300 @ 0.00282957 = 0.8489 BTC [+] {3} 422473;1387122604;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/perfect-money-corrupts-absolutely/#comment-94017 422474;1387122604;ozbot;Perfect money corrupts absolutely pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 422475;1387122606;mircea_popescu;check out this schmuck. 422476;1387122611;mircea_popescu;since summer with this. 422477;1387122711;kakobrekla;im thinking, XVII + nineteen would prolly stop him 422478;1387122768;mircea_popescu;but my point is... so some kid gets out of school in june and wants to become a man over the summer. 422479;1387122773;mircea_popescu;some try to get laid, others try to get rich 422480;1387122781;mircea_popescu;shouldn't he be back to writing homework by now ? 422481;1387122871;kakobrekla;its just spam 422482;1387122898;mircea_popescu;nah, it's hand written 422483;1387122956;kakobrekla;hand written spam. 422484;1387122964;mircea_popescu;yeah. 422485;1387122970;mircea_popescu;almost like the hand-run compiler. 422486;1387123055;kakobrekla;well, you can hand power a dynamo and use that to power the compiler. 422487;1387123061;kakobrekla;just fyi. 422488;1387123073;mircea_popescu;ooooor, you could cock-power a dynamo 422489;1387123077;mircea_popescu;and use the ooze for coolant too. 422490;1387123119;kakobrekla;i dont have that sort of cock. 422491;1387123146;mircea_popescu;internet epeen competition. "save the whales, power your compiler". 422492;1387123223;kakobrekla;anyway as the workforce gets cheaper i dont see why you wouldnt see hand written spam for a non outofthebox codebase sites 422493;1387123271;kakobrekla;even assets suffers spam 422494;1387123290;kakobrekla;assbot excluded 422495;1387123492;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20399 @ 0.00090205 = 18.4009 BTC [+] {2} 422496;1387123503;mircea_popescu;lol 422497;1387123518;mircea_popescu;except trilema is quite out of the box. 422498;1387123531;kakobrekla;one more reason you need humans to do it 422499;1387123797;mircea_popescu;ya 422500;1387124468;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 9 @ 0.02281001 = 0.2053 BTC [-] 422501;1387124980;thestringpuller;everytime I install litecoin related software it's all Kapersky is all "MALWARE DETECTED, WARNING SOMEONE TRYNNA STEAL YO BITCOINS" 422502;1387125001;thestringpuller;Litecoins grestest long-run scam ever to deploy worms to steal btc? 422503;1387125050;thestringpuller;;;bc,stats 422504;1387125052;gribble;Current Blocks: 275066 | Current Difficulty: 9.08350862437022E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 276191 | Next Difficulty In: 1125 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 19 hours, 10 minutes, and 30 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 1104677340.74 | Estimated Percent Change: 21.61351 422505;1387125062;thestringpuller;;;estimate 422506;1387125063;gribble;Next difficulty estimate | 1104677340.74 based on data since last change | 1186210790.64 based on data for last three days 422507;1387125231;pankkake;new litecoin version failed to replace a "Bitcoin" string 422508;1387125253;mircea_popescu;;p; 422509;1387125292;KRS|Gotyawallet;http://www.businessinsider.com/why-bitcoin-will-never-be-a-currency--in-two-charts-2013-12 422510;1387125294;pankkake;so that diff bet is pretty much done? :( 422511;1387125317;dexX7;yup, you are screwed 422512;1387125322;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.05 = 1 BTC 422513;1387125340;dexX7;;) 422514;1387125456;pankkake;I feel like I have read that article ten times already 422515;1387125488;mircea_popescu;pankkake more like 10`000 times. 422516;1387125512;mircea_popescu;i see that, what i read is "i am a noob, hear my uninformed convictions and care enough about my worthless persona to set me straight" 422517;1387125517;mircea_popescu;as if it makes a difference, srsly. 422518;1387125560;KRS|Gotyawallet;pankkake date on that article makes it almost exactly 12 hours old 422519;1387125567;KRS|Gotyawallet;there have been others? 422520;1387125601;pankkake;that's not what I meant KRS. I specifically saw it was new, but it has nothing new, and the same broken arguments were exposed before 422521;1387125660;pankkake;the "prices fell during the depression so prices falling is bad" is so… how do you even logic 422522;1387125700;thestringpuller;What Bitcoin really needs is a central bank to stabilize its value. When the demand for Bitcoin goes up, they need to print more to keep it from skyrocketing. That is, they need to decide whether they want Bitcoin to be a Ponzi scheme for techno-libertarians or an actual medium of exchange. 422523;1387125705;thestringpuller;Just 422524;1387125706;thestringpuller;wow? 422525;1387125708;thestringpuller;uh 422526;1387125714;pankkake;:D 422527;1387125718;thestringpuller;Not even my puppy is that uninformed. 422528;1387125736;thestringpuller;Middle schoolers are more informed.... 422529;1387125760;pankkake;of course, because they haven't been actively misinformed yet :) 422530;1387125818;thestringpuller;mircea_popescu: this is less of "i'm a n00b" and more of "i have no idea how economics really work and believe we should just print more money so we can fix our bad debts. Make it rain Ben Bernanke while I suck your dick." 422531;1387125851;mircea_popescu;imo that's a noob. 422532;1387125880;thestringpuller;lol ignorance == n00b? 422533;1387125885;pankkake;there's the humble noob and the entitled noob 422534;1387125886;mircea_popescu;isn;'t that the definition ? 422535;1387125889;thestringpuller;there's hope for n00bs cause MAY be able to teach them 422536;1387125894;mircea_popescu;there's nothing new in this world except for the history you don't know. 422537;1387125921;mircea_popescu;pankkake yeah, noobs handle their ignorance differently. but still, how else do you know a noob's a noob ? by their ignorance. 422538;1387126169;KRS|Gotyawallet;ignorance != noob..matters are that said noob did not get the memo 422539;1387126202;pankkake;so noobs are ignorants that didn't lurk moar 422540;1387126207;KRS|Gotyawallet;noobs get the memo then noob on in light of that 422541;1387126214;KRS|Gotyawallet;lol pankkake 422542;1387126226;mircea_popescu;i guess there's newbs and then there's noobs. 422543;1387126232;pankkake;it's not a joke 422544;1387126234;pankkake;right 422545;1387126268;KRS|Gotyawallet;entertaining conversation..kind of relaxing watching the lemmings isnt it 422546;1387126280;mircea_popescu;it is 422547;1387126281;pankkake;lurking moar should be taught in school 422548;1387126286;mircea_popescu;and im halfway through this fucking thing. 422549;1387126291;mircea_popescu;it's 100kb ;/ 422550;1387126531;sbp;"bitcoin entered the world on Jan. 3, 2009, when a shadowy hacker — or team of hackers — working under the name Satoshi Nakamoto released an ingenious string of computer code" — http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/15/sunday-review/the-bitcoin-ideology.html 422551;1387126549;sbp;2013, the media still hasn't caught up with programming, let alone bitcoin 422552;1387126600;mircea_popescu;it won't ever happen. 422553;1387126620;mircea_popescu;if they had the mental power to catch up they'd be doing better money than whatever foodstamps "the press" pays. 422554;1387126621;asciilifeform;'the camel has two humps.' 422555;1387126664;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60863 @ 0.00090095 = 54.8345 BTC [-] {2} 422556;1387126665;asciilifeform;(http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2006/07/separating-programming-sheep-from-non-programming-goats.html for anyone who doesn't remember.) 422557;1387126694;asciilifeform;short version: factory-OEM human brain doesn't deal in abstraction. 422558;1387126703;asciilifeform;electronic or otherwise. 422559;1387126755;mircea_popescu;ayu[ 422560;1387126760;asciilifeform;see also 'the cold equations.' (tom godwin, 1954.) 422561;1387126766;mircea_popescu;bitcoin actually happens to be a two hump sifter. 422562;1387126774;mircea_popescu;i wasn't kidding when i said they're turning into niggers. 422563;1387126797;mircea_popescu;what bitcoin does is it meaningfully sepparates the population, and i see nobody credibly arguing for extending human status past the 2nd bump 422564;1387126816;asciilifeform;it's at least as much of a sifter as abstract algebra. 422565;1387126832;pankkake;"most people can't learn to program" is really true. but it goes against the egalitarian ideology "you can do anything" 422566;1387126853;asciilifeform;and these sample people think that training circus animals is cruel. 422567;1387126894;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform no. because abstract algebra does not allocate resources 422568;1387126908;kakobrekla;> •8% of students didn't give a damn and left the answers blank. 422569;1387126920;asciilifeform;with bitcoin we have sorter and sifter in one. 422570;1387126948;mircea_popescu;it went from "indicator light" (algebra) to "execution squad" (bitcoin) 422571;1387126950;mircea_popescu;quite different. 422572;1387126958;asciilifeform;kakobrekla: the real shocker was that the 'back hump' did not cough up a model of the problem. even a wrong one. 422573;1387126978;mircea_popescu;why is this a shiocker ? or in what perspective ? 422574;1387126988;asciilifeform;their answers did not sum up to a consistent picture of anything. even a mistaken picture. 422575;1387127014;asciilifeform;a shocker for the teacher, not for me in particular 422576;1387127214;mircea_popescu;you seen the pictures of spider;s webs made by high spiders ? 422577;1387127224;asciilifeform;people who can't (or won't) do arithmetic and turn into the Financially Sad are nothing new 422578;1387127234;mircea_popescu;if the box ain't functioning, there's no guarantee you end up with a web. even a not working one. 422579;1387127236;asciilifeform;but the study of the underlying pathology is useful. 422580;1387127242;asciilifeform;correct. 422581;1387128315;mircea_popescu;pankkake you were saying a few days ago about being disgusted with ppl lauding scams just because they hope they get a little back ? where is it, i want to quote it. 422582;1387128463;pankkake;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=289730.msg3884221#msg3884221 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=297530.msg3883958#msg3883958 perhaps… unless it was on irc. I post too much crap 422583;1387128465;ozbot;[IPVO] [Multiple Exchanges] Neo & Bee - LMB Holdings 422584;1387128467;pankkake;hmm https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=289730.msg3878956#msg3878956 422585;1387128545;pankkake;you've got to see the custom mining hardware forum too, where shareholders shill for their companies that are not shipping 422586;1387128567;nubbins`;custom mining sub is brutal 422587;1387128614;pankkake;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=358820.0;viewResults you have to wonder, who are those 7 guys? 422588;1387128616;ozbot;[VMC] Poll: Have you Received Shipping Notification? 422589;1387128625;mircea_popescu;yes it was on irc 422590;1387128629;mircea_popescu;i don't rly read the forum 422591;1387128728;mircea_popescu;lmao, so anything to avoid an actual delivery bet huh ? we make a fake bitbet out of forum paste & spit, pretend and pray. 422592;1387128738;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.05 = 1 BTC 422593;1387128745;nubbins`;the bitcoin "community" in general is a cesspool of stupidity and frottage 422594;1387128894;nubbins`;custom mining sub: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/71/Geiger-masturbation-mutuelle.jpg 422595;1387129287;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.25 = 1.25 BTC [+] 422596;1387129317;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/mpoe-pr-almost-two-years-in-the-swamp-an-anthology/ 422597;1387129318;ozbot;MPOE-PR, almost two years in the swamp. An anthology. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 422598;1387129431;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform http://www.cs.mdx.ac.uk/research/PhDArea/saeed/ << the paper chorror references has mysteriously disappeared in tjhe meanwhile. 422599;1387129456;nubbins`;this will be equal parts comedy and tragedy 422600;1387129461;mircea_popescu;instead ? some gargle about inclusiveness. 422601;1387129471;mircea_popescu;nubbins` hollywood got nothin' on this. 422602;1387129561;nubbins`;aha, the one guy referred to mp+-pr as "shim" 422603;1387129563;nubbins`;great 422604;1387129623;nubbins`;;;ud shim 422605;1387129623;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=shim | 2. shim. (n)-A person of anonymous or unconfirmed gender. Usually only applicable to people met online. Are you still going out with that shim? mark as favorite ... 422606;1387129623;thestringpuller;;;seen jurov 422607;1387129624;gribble;jurov was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 hours, 18 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: SPREADSHEET KILLS 422608;1387129625;ozbot;Urban Dictionary: shim 422609;1387129668;nubbins`;wow, guy wrote bearshare? 422610;1387129687;nubbins`;i remember that 422611;1387129785;pankkake;mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-12-2013#411741 that might be it, if you're willing to read the whole day I guess 422612;1387129790;pankkake;of emo pankkake 422613;1387129802;mircea_popescu;lol 422614;1387129832;mircea_popescu;nah it was a coupla days before that i think 422615;1387129835;pankkake;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-12-2013#411520 422616;1387129837;mircea_popescu;when it first dawned on you that 422617;1387129837;ozbot;#bitcoin-assets log 422618;1387129845;pankkake;yeah that's the one 422619;1387129847;mircea_popescu;yup 422620;1387129897;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.25 BTC [+] 422621;1387129956;mircea_popescu;edited. 422622;1387130104;pankkake;but then you have to ask yourself why would anyone sane still use bitcoin 422623;1387130354;thestringpuller;people still use bearshare? 422624;1387130369;mircea_popescu;doesn't seem likely. 422625;1387130405;pankkake;what is it, a program for hairy gay swingers? 422626;1387130446;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5131 @ 0.00090006 = 4.6182 BTC [-] 422627;1387130476;mircea_popescu;haha 422628;1387130743;thestringpuller;what is the recipe in romania? 422629;1387130750;thestringpuller;in LA it is women weed and weather 422630;1387130882;mircea_popescu;i think it varies. 422631;1387130934;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 149 @ 0.00220102 = 0.328 BTC [-] {3} 422632;1387131422;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: http://www.eis.mdx.ac.uk/research/PhDArea/saeed/paper1.pdf loads fine 422633;1387131493;asciilifeform;and, afaik, bearshare is dead, but the (DHT-based) 'edonkey' is still up and running, and stuffed full of high-quality rarities 422634;1387131506;asciilifeform;(scanned russian maths books, etc) 422635;1387131548;pankkake;edonkey network still has some active communities and good stuff. actually it was the only one of those with actual communities 422636;1387131640;asciilifeform;if 'bittorrent' is your neighbourhood dope pusher, 'edonkey' is alex shulgin's basement lab. 422637;1387131678;pankkake;that's not really true anymore. public bittorrent yes, but private communities are thriving 422638;1387131717;pankkake;and then there's the odd soulseek, still up while having some heavy centralization 422639;1387131732;asciilifeform;pankkake: are you a member of any that have 1970s soviet trinary mainframe manuals, rather than peculiar and rare fetish porn? 422640;1387131754;asciilifeform;(nothing against the latter, but the former is more what i had in mind) 422641;1387131788;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42637 @ 0.00090097 = 38.4147 BTC [+] {2} 422642;1387131832;asciilifeform;ed is still, afaik, the only place where you will find some of the more interesting and factual (older) 'paladin press' works. 422643;1387131894;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform ah yea. meant the earlier link 422644;1387131946;pankkake;there was a community named "horseporn junction" that I was not part of, but it might be a hoax 422645;1387131973;mircea_popescu;would horses lie ? 422646;1387131988;pankkake;but you can find some good stuff elsewhere 422647;1387132024;mircea_popescu;"The interpretation of the results of the above assignment test make me feel angry. I am not a teacher but I am confident that I can teach (in less than 15 minutes) any person smart enough to be admitted to a computer science class how to pass the above test. The results speak volumes about the utter ignorance of educators regarding the nature of human knowledge and how to acquire it. It is a tremendous act of injustic 422648;1387132024;mircea_popescu;e to blame the students and not the teachers. Now if a student is *unwilling* to learn the material then that is another question. 422649;1387132025;mircea_popescu;But to blame the poor education methods on students willing to acquire the knowledge is just ridiculous. 422650;1387132045;mircea_popescu;check out this guy. he's a teacher who feels able to help people fake the test, 422651;1387132065;mircea_popescu;and he imagines this means the conclusions of the test only show how desperately the world needs more teachers. 422652;1387132099;mircea_popescu;i suppose this is the original font of bureaucracy. 422653;1387132150;asciilifeform;alan kay (smalltalk), the original 'i'll teach even monkeys to program' fellow, persists in this delusion. 422654;1387132197;mircea_popescu;it's not so different from the conviction one can patent medicine, 422655;1387132209;mircea_popescu;which in the end boils right back into the old trunk of crafting the perpetuum mobile. 422656;1387132222;asciilifeform;maybe these folks will relent once they understand that even literacy cannot be taught to everyone. 422657;1387132280;mircea_popescu;these folks will never relent. 422658;1387132303;mircea_popescu;inasmuch their problem is a relation to the self rather than to the world, the only way to have them relent is to change them 422659;1387132318;mircea_popescu;either back into anorganic matter, or else chinese re-education or w/e. 422660;1387132366;asciilifeform;or just let them go broke, and they can join the crackpots who spend their lives teaching dolphins sign language. 422661;1387132407;mircea_popescu;same thing. 422662;1387132425;mircea_popescu;incidentally, there is a good objection there : the example given seems very tilted toward people with experience in a C-like language. 422663;1387132438;mircea_popescu;"otherwise you need to use the 'code-cracking' part of your brain to try and infer a meaning from an unknown syntax." 422664;1387132454;mircea_popescu;as all cognitive tests, the one proposed measures more the bias of the tester than the subject. 422665;1387132459;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00090414 = 3.2549 BTC [+] 422666;1387132468;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform incidentally, do you know the story of the kid who wouldn't pass physics exam ? 422667;1387132473;asciilifeform;let somebody give the same test with (kindergarten level) electric circuits. 422668;1387132475;asciilifeform;? 422669;1387132510;mircea_popescu;lemme see if i find this 422670;1387132538;pankkake;asciilifeform: http://i.imgur.com/MR5c0dB.png ? 422671;1387132564;mircea_popescu;http://www.snopes.com/college/exam/barometer.asp 422672;1387132593;asciilifeform;pankkake: 1 or 2 of these are interesting, in the sense of 'what not to do' 422673;1387132645;asciilifeform;the barometer example is just one of a poorly-specified problem 422674;1387132715;asciilifeform;that is, one ought to ask 'you are alone in the desert, even the shirt on your back has worn to tatters, you encounter the obelisk of ozymandias, quite tall, and wish to measure its height before you die of thirst, with nothing but your remaining barometer.' 422675;1387132750;mircea_popescu;you are wrong to imagine this problem can be solved by specification. 422676;1387132761;mircea_popescu;this is the exact equivalent of the "poorly specified bitbet bet" fallacy. 422677;1387132776;asciilifeform;any kid who can still wiggle out from under the conditions with finesse should be marked passing. 422678;1387132776;mircea_popescu;natural language does not allow specification, and most fields of interest for humans do not allow formal language. 422679;1387132786;mircea_popescu;so you've just moved the goalposts. 422680;1387132789;mircea_popescu;consider http://www.snopes.com/college/exam/choice.asp 422681;1387132825;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 97 @ 0.00279 = 0.2706 BTC [+] 422682;1387132835;asciilifeform;programmer's wife: 'do you want pizza or chinese for dinner?' programmer: 'yes.' 422683;1387132841;mircea_popescu;hehe 422684;1387133115;KRS|Gotyawallet;This hw offering is from China, land of the asics. It must not be a scam. I heard the chips grow in the wild there. It must be wonderful. http://www.cybtc.com/thread-3396-1-1.html 422685;1387133130;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28400 @ 0.00090414 = 25.6776 BTC [+] 422686;1387133142;mircea_popescu;lol 422687;1387133183;asciilifeform;re: asics: anyone crazy enough to build a discrete-TTL logic miner yet? 422688;1387133225;mircea_popescu;no. 422689;1387133293;asciilifeform;does anyone even remember how to design with ECL circuits nowadays... 422690;1387133316;mircea_popescu;possibly. many people involved in mining are from the "old world" 422691;1387133321;mircea_popescu;ie, russia, china etc. 422692;1387133330;asciilifeform;(you can buy ~50GHz+ ECL gates from mouser, or whoever) 422693;1387133403;KRS|Gotyawallet;here is the english translation of the site 422694;1387133410;KRS|Gotyawallet;dig that first comment, reserved for a certain team- 422695;1387133410;KRS|Gotyawallet;http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&sl=auto&tl=destination_language&u=http://www.cybtc.com/thread-3396-1-1.html 422696;1387133533;mircea_popescu;googlish is hardly english 422697;1387133541;KRS|Gotyawallet;Its cattle. 422698;1387133581;mircea_popescu;Hot Search: pumpkin baked cat butterfly KNC Bitfury Bitmine Avalon TMR 422699;1387133586;mircea_popescu;herp :D 422700;1387133626;KRS|Gotyawallet;hah 422701;1387133647;mircea_popescu;diginforce is Gridseed total online sales agents, sales are now sold out yesterday, there is no development board conference 422702;1387133742;KRS|Gotyawallet;Bigtime Protoshares/Invictus drama brewing. 422703;1387133788;pankkake;what stupid thing did they do this time? 422704;1387134289;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37200 @ 0.00090414 = 33.634 BTC [+] 422705;1387134436;mircea_popescu;http://www.t3.com/news/the-pirate-bay-changes-domain-to-stay-ahead-of-the-law 422706;1387134438;ozbot;The Pirate Bay changes domain to stay ahead of the law | T3 422707;1387134439;mircea_popescu;y no namecoin 422708;1387134625;Kleeck;I like PirateBay. 422709;1387134757;asciilifeform;would anyone care to explain why namecoin, when you can encode name-ipv4 pairs in the conventional blockchain trivially 422710;1387134814;pankkake;there is a thepiratebay.bit… but it's domain squatted 422711;1387134838;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00279 = 0.1395 BTC [+] 422712;1387134849;pankkake;anyway to access TPB: http://proxybay.info/ 422713;1387134900;KRS|Gotyawallet;asciilifeform thats cool man 422714;1387134942;asciilifeform;KRS|Gotyawallet: not like it was my idea. has been obvious for ages. 422715;1387135017;asciilifeform;store a few bytes as small tx. 422716;1387135055;asciilifeform;(or gigantic tx. doesn't matter, since the coin is going in a closed loop.) 422717;1387135085;asciilifeform;that is, between your own addrs. 422718;1387135387;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48050 @ 0.00090854 = 43.6553 BTC [+] {4} 422719;1387135861;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform this is the first time a dns server has to handle 10gb of cruft to resolve a query. 422720;1387136062;pankkake;namecoin features could be added to bitcoin, but the idea was that miners would be against it… well the result is now no one cares 422721;1387136074;pankkake;people buy namecoins but have no idea what they are for :| 422722;1387136091;mircea_popescu;well inasmuch as they don't really work for that which they are for, arguably it doesn't matter. 422723;1387136118;pankkake;it works, but the tools suck or do not exist 422724;1387136139;mircea_popescu;re-read what you just said o.o 422725;1387136198;pankkake;it works in the sense that you can register a name, update it, etc. 422726;1387136220;pankkake;http://explorer.bit/n/42707 pretty cool right? if only there was an application exploiting it! 422727;1387136302;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.24525001 = 0.4905 BTC [-] {2} 422728;1387136303;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 7 @ 0.1 = 0.7 BTC [+] 422729;1387136320;mircea_popescu;im curious what the pirate bay browser will be like. 422730;1387136332;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: dns server already chugs 10+GB of turd: unix. 422731;1387136339;pankkake;ugh I guess I should give the non-.bit URL: http://explorer.dot-bit.org/n/42707 422732;1387136343;mircea_popescu;also just made them an offer to sponsor them, curious if they manage to find their way out of the paper bag. 422733;1387136354;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform it's not 10gb tho 422734;1387136371;pankkake;I thought their browser already existed, and that it was a tor bundle fork 422735;1387136417;pankkake;http://piratebrowser.com/ 422736;1387136419;mircea_popescu;sort-of 422737;1387136473;pankkake;projects of alternative roots never went far, too. there was .42 which gave pretty much nothing 422738;1387136485;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 92 @ 0.00229808 = 0.2114 BTC [+] {8} 422739;1387136486;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.24050001 BTC [-] 422740;1387136790;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21121 @ 0.00090414 = 19.0963 BTC [-] 422741;1387138132;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31956 @ 0.00090444 = 28.9023 BTC [+] 422742;1387139779;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39600 @ 0.00090174 = 35.7089 BTC [-] {2} 422743;1387140206;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13040 @ 0.0009044 = 11.7934 BTC [+] {2} 422744;1387140694;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 99 @ 0.002845 = 0.2817 BTC [+] 422745;1387142351;mircea_popescu;"I want to introduce myself. My name is Michael from Cloudhashing.com, and I have taken over the public relations work there after being one of their customers since August. I will be the only one writing from this account now. " 422746;1387142352;mircea_popescu;o.o 422747;1387142552;Namworld;What? 422748;1387142710;mircea_popescu;i have no idea dood, it's like complete chaos. 422749;1387142744;mircea_popescu;"hello i am your new waiter after eating here for three weeks i am now qualified to make food. the brainwashing is real good, please try it." 422750;1387142951;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 48 @ 0.05 = 2.4 BTC 422751;1387143336;pankkake;can something with "cloud" in its name not be a scam? 422752;1387143744;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4942 @ 0.00090028 = 4.4492 BTC [-] 422753;1387143792;pankkake;;;estimate 422754;1387143793;gribble;Next difficulty estimate | 1099731120.92 based on data since last change | 1191737820.33 based on data for last three days 422755;1387144391;dub;;;bc,stats 422756;1387144394;gribble;Current Blocks: 275103 | Current Difficulty: 9.08350862437022E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 276191 | Next Difficulty In: 1088 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 2 hours, 41 minutes, and 47 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 1100272777.8 | Estimated Percent Change: 21.12861 422757;1387144413;dub;;;nethash 422758;1387144414;gribble;8524940.56545 422759;1387145879;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.05 = 0.15 BTC 422760;1387146733;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26700 @ 0.00089943 = 24.0148 BTC [-] 422761;1387147221;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00089943 = 5.3066 BTC [-] 422762;1387148075;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1100 @ 0.00089949 = 0.9894 BTC [+] 422763;1387148746;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13900 @ 0.00089949 = 12.5029 BTC [+] 422764;1387148929;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 283 @ 0.0028479 = 0.806 BTC [+] 422765;1387149389;mircea_popescu;;;eauth mircea_popescu 422766;1387149389;gribble;Request successful for user mircea_popescu, hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/8A736F0E2FB7B452 422767;1387149410;mircea_popescu;;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:ab62ac49dc6fe5b52726b421d41eb2c753a4056ad1457349660e8819 422768;1387149411;gribble;You are now authenticated for user mircea_popescu with key 8A736F0E2FB7B452 422769;1387149417;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.09666666 = 0.29 BTC [-] {2} 422770;1387149478;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 4 @ 0.09037504 = 0.3615 BTC [-] {3} 422771;1387149539;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.05 = 0.65 BTC 422772;1387151147;mircea_popescu;ok, so, major announcement : 422773;1387151161;fiat500;o no 422774;1387151161;mircea_popescu;bitcoin-central & mpex are proud to announce X.EUR, http://mpex.co/?mpsic=X.EUR 422775;1387151169;fiat500;oh, sweet 422776;1387151170;mircea_popescu;teh physically settled monthly euro future 422777;1387151177;mircea_popescu;it will start trading tomorrow. 422778;1387151247;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37550 @ 0.00089942 = 33.7732 BTC [-] {3} 422779;1387151328;jurov;w00t 422780;1387151337;pizzaman1337;wait, physically settled? 422781;1387151340;mircea_popescu;yes. 422782;1387151349;jurov;but dunno when b-c finally verifies my company acct 422783;1387151351;mircea_popescu;ie, actual future, not bucket shop bs. 422784;1387151361;pizzaman1337;MP comes with a briefcase full of cash to my door? 422785;1387151376;mircea_popescu;pizzaman1337 no, but you get euros in your bc acct. 422786;1387151613;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28974 @ 0.00090032 = 26.0859 BTC [+] {2} 422787;1387151745;jurov;heh looks *I* will have to do with briefcases of cash, if someone exercises them via coinbr 422788;1387151790;jurov;this gonna get interesting 422789;1387151859;mircea_popescu;jurov you can probably just subsign. 422790;1387151874;sundun_;hey 422791;1387151876;sundun_;anyone here? 422792;1387151876;mircea_popescu;ie, ask YOUR customer to gpg sign THEIR bc acct. 422793;1387151886;mircea_popescu;and oversign that and ship it to davout 422794;1387151897;sundun_;o i guess that's a yes >_< 422795;1387151904;mircea_popescu;sup sundun_ ? 422796;1387151911;jurov;mhm, good then 422797;1387151916;sundun_;just saying hi 422798;1387151919;sundun_;had a couple of questions 422799;1387151925;sundun_;but i dunno how active this chat is 422800;1387151926;mircea_popescu;jurov i don't imagine they'd look too kindly on you fronting for ppl on your own acct anyway 422801;1387151940;mircea_popescu;sundun_ this chat is the heart and especially brains of btc finance. what do you need ? 422802;1387151947;jurov;i was going to ask anyway 422803;1387151957;sundun_;haha mircea 422804;1387151969;sundun_;soooo 422805;1387151974;pizzaman1337;you laugh... 422806;1387151982;sundun_;i'm not sure what that means XD 422807;1387152009;sundun_;anyway i was thinking of investing in neo&bee 422808;1387152019;sundun_;but not sure if i should do it via havelock 422809;1387152023;sundun_;or via the lmbholdings site 422810;1387152030;jurov;so you aren't thinking about that anymore 422811;1387152036;jurov;that's good ;) 422812;1387152056;sundun_;haha you're saying it's good that ive already decided to invest 422813;1387152058;mircea_popescu;at this point you'd have to be off your rocker to do anything involving havelock. 422814;1387152065;sundun_;why micrea? 422815;1387152081;sundun_;what's wrong with havelock 422816;1387152088;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-12-2013#422307 422817;1387152091;ozbot;#bitcoin-assets log 422818;1387152108;sundun_;what 422819;1387152115;sundun_;you want me to read that long chat? 422820;1387152115;jurov;virtex, havelocks biggest asset, went into trouble 422821;1387152118;sundun_;can i get a tldr version 422822;1387152119;fiat500;is the situation in cyprus really this dire? 422823;1387152122;sundun_;what does that mean 422824;1387152129;mircea_popescu;sundun_ it autohighlights where you need to start. 422825;1387152134;mircea_popescu;fiat500 sounds pretty bad 422826;1387152142;fiat500;interesting 422827;1387152173;jurov;sundun_: if you're srs with the inestment, prefer full infor over tldr 422828;1387152174;sundun_;bleh i dont understand 422829;1387152234;sundun_;azoo sure. they reorganised as a entity run by "no one", recently. after which they allowed their largest company (virtex) to simply walk away from the investors 12:57:29mircea_popescu:collected >4k btc this year, paid no dividends, is now gone. 422830;1387152237;sundun_;this? 422831;1387152241;sundun_;virtex is stealing money? 422832;1387152248;sundun_;crap 422833;1387152267;jurov;they frame it as "exchange for real shares registered in alberta" 422834;1387152275;Duffer1;dundun_ if you're unsure of the offering or the exchange then just hold onto your btc for dear life, do not let go 422835;1387152288;jurov;but since it's CAD-denominated, it's as good as scam 422836;1387152295;sundun_;but i want to invest in btc buesinesss 422837;1387152300;sundun_;just not sure how 422838;1387152306;sundun_;but alot of people have funds in havelock 422839;1387152310;sundun_;it's a scam for them too? 422840;1387152313;mircea_popescu;Duffer1 has a point, and so does jurov. don't rush it. 422841;1387152319;mircea_popescu;you 422842;1387152326;sundun_;sigh i just sent half a bitcoin to havelock 422843;1387152327;fiat500;4:04 PM but i want to invest in btc buesinesss 422844;1387152327;fiat500;4:05 PM just not sure how 422845;1387152328;mircea_popescu;ll be very sorry after you lose your btc, better hold on to it. 422846;1387152334;fiat500;this is not the right way to look at it 422847;1387152341;sundun_;how should i look at it 422848;1387152349;Duffer1;sec 422849;1387152349;fiat500;unless you are an amazing philanthropist :P 422850;1387152349;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 422851;1387152350;sundun_;sorry i'm super nooby i want to learn more >_< 422852;1387152371;jurov;read more then ;) 422853;1387152380;sundun_;sigh 422854;1387152384;sundun_;okay 422855;1387152385;sundun_;i'm willing 422856;1387152388;Duffer1;sundun_ i wrote this just for you https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=353439 422857;1387152392;sundun_;this chat's ai is kind of confusing 422858;1387152392;mircea_popescu;yeah, read the logs. 422859;1387152399;assbot;Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1506852/plain/) 422860;1387152399;mircea_popescu;!b 2 422861;1387152403;sundun_;or aesthetically unappearling 422862;1387152410;mircea_popescu;bwahaha kakobrekla you hear that ? teh ai is borkt! 422863;1387152457;Duffer1;assbot has tourettes (amazing) 422864;1387152457;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 422865;1387152466;mircea_popescu;"i got no time and i gotta invest". H. Ellison's sequel. 422866;1387152467;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.24077142 = 1.6854 BTC [+] {2} 422867;1387152528;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.2405 = 1.6835 BTC [-] {2} 422868;1387152549;sundun_;so duffer1 you invested in losing bitcoin stocks? 422869;1387152560;sundun_;and that's why you don't advise it? 422870;1387152571;Duffer1;there were several points 422871;1387152593;sundun_;and the guys that you ivnested in 422872;1387152596;sundun_;ran off with 182 BTC 422873;1387152597;sundun_;damn 422874;1387152598;Duffer1;btc is almost certainly a better investment then X 422875;1387152614;sundun_;so everyone here does not want to invest in bitcoin securities? 422876;1387152621;Duffer1;i'm not saying that 422877;1387152629;mircea_popescu; btc is almost certainly a better investment then X << ESPECIALLY if you don't really read/know what X does. 422878;1387152633;Duffer1;there are always going to be projects worth supporting 422879;1387152652;sundun_;so what are you saying 422880;1387152671;pankkake;if you don't really know or understand what the thing is about, if ANYTHING is unclear, don't invest 422881;1387152681;Duffer1;yes 422882;1387152684;Duffer1;and 422883;1387152702;Duffer1;even if you do know what it's about, it's very unlikely to outperform btc itself as an investment 422884;1387152715;fiat500;dont just invest in btc "business" for the sake of doing it 422885;1387152744;sundun_;so are you guys not invested in btc securities :/ 422886;1387152753;sundun_;you're saying that i shouldn't invest cuz i'm not completely knowledgable 422887;1387152758;mircea_popescu;they are, they just try to conspire to keep you away from the really good stuff see ? 422888;1387152770;fiat500;lol 422889;1387152771;twizt;lol 422890;1387152795;sundun_;:/ 422891;1387152822;sundun_;i'm confused 422892;1387152829;Duffer1;he's joking man 422893;1387152867;sundun_;okay 422894;1387152867;fiat500;sundun_: why do companies list themselves on the stock market in general? 422895;1387152876;sundun_;for supporters 422896;1387152883;fiat500;lolz 422897;1387152888;twizt;no 422898;1387152889;sundun_;wat 422899;1387152892;twizt;for initial capital 422900;1387152894;sundun_;yeah 422901;1387152896;sundun_;support 422902;1387152908;sundun_;financial support that they need to run business 422903;1387152909;twizt;thats not support 422904;1387152914;pankkake;mircea_popescu: I've been accused to do that. same as mining 422905;1387152917;sundun_;how is it not support 422906;1387152917;twizt;having facebook followers is support ;) 422907;1387152921;pankkake;there's no use :( 422908;1387152923;sundun_;oh i c 422909;1387152927;sundun_;i meant in different way 422910;1387152934;sundun_;anyway 422911;1387152936;sundun_;you guys have scared me 422912;1387152940;Duffer1;pankkake there is hope still, he did find his way here 422913;1387152946;fiat500;(also lets not consider cases where they are forced to because they've reached a threshold of stakeholders) 422914;1387152947;sundun_;i didn't think it would be a big deal to invest in neo&bee 422915;1387152947;pankkake;:) 422916;1387152951;twizt;everything is a risk sundun_ 422917;1387152959;sundun_;i understand its' a risk 422918;1387152964;sundun_;don't invest anything you're unable to lose 422919;1387152966;sundun_;blah blah 422920;1387152969;twizt;just gotta make sure u if you should take certain ones or not 422921;1387152982;sundun_;okay 422922;1387152988;sundun_;thanks i mean it 422923;1387153008;pankkake;the "can't afford to lose" is certainly tired, and highly incomplete. you have to judge what is the risk and the potential reward 422924;1387153036;pankkake;if you can get 10% if it works, but it has a 50% chance to work, it's way too risky 422925;1387153081;sundun_;i see 422926;1387153084;sundun_;so back to havelock 422927;1387153091;sundun_;mircea thinks havelock is a scam 422928;1387153096;sundun_;bc of all the failed securities 422929;1387153117;Duffer1;even if they aren't a scam just look at the track record of their offerings 422930;1387153126;Duffer1;they might as well be a scam 422931;1387153130;sundun_;yeah failed securities 422932;1387153131;pankkake;I believe they don't have the best interests of shareholders anymore 422933;1387153134;fiat500;mircea_popescu: curious, say btcusd is at $40k, just to pluck a number out of thin air 422934;1387153138;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10400 @ 0.00090081 = 9.3684 BTC [+] 422935;1387153139;sundun_;i see 422936;1387153148;sundun_;so even asicmining? 422937;1387153152;sundun_;i know it's been seriously failing 422938;1387153152;fiat500;do you still see mpex registration staying at 30BTC? 422939;1387153153;sundun_;lmao 422940;1387153157;mircea_popescu;fiat500 yes. 422941;1387153186;pankkake;+in mind 422942;1387153187;mircea_popescu;30 btc will still be 0.00000003% of btc in circulation. it's not a high barrier by any means. 422943;1387153200;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 115 @ 0.00289 = 0.3324 BTC [+] 422944;1387153202;pizzaman1337;I wonder if someday I'd ever consider selling my MPEX registration... 422945;1387153222;fiat500;thats a nice way to look at it 422946;1387153258;mircea_popescu;and if 40k is too high, then people should pay less per btc 422947;1387153265;fiat500;the accepted theory on deflation is it causes prices to drop, looks like you're having none of that (or dont care about USD exchange rate) 422948;1387153273;mircea_popescu;this isn't a price, it's a barrier. 422949;1387153288;fiat500;ah 422950;1387153290;mircea_popescu;you're not buying something from me, you're proving something to me. 422951;1387153337;fiat500;the 30btc is your version of accreditation then 422952;1387153346;mircea_popescu;half of it. 422953;1387153354;mircea_popescu;the financial half. you also gotta be able to talk to the exchange. 422954;1387153476;pizzaman1337;will you ever stop allowing new registrations? 422955;1387153512;mircea_popescu;altoghether ? probably not. 422956;1387153545;pankkake;I already thought registrations were discretionary 422957;1387153714;jurov;pizzaman1337: only if you can find a provable way to forget your gpg key 422958;1387153746;fiat500;has the average investor done well on mpex? 422959;1387153748;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8850 @ 0.00089936 = 7.9593 BTC [-] {2} 422960;1387153780;pizzaman1337;jurov: mpex allows updating keys, right? 422961;1387153800;jurov;no it does not 422962;1387153816;jurov;last i heard 422963;1387153830;asciilifeform;wait, srsly? 422964;1387153843;pizzaman1337;even if I think my key has been compromised? 422965;1387153850;jurov;there were some amends for unlucky people who had expiration date set, but afaik not anymore 422966;1387153865;jurov;then it's 30b for new acct. 422967;1387153887;mircea_popescu;fiat500 http://trilema.com/2013/the-list-of-discontinued-assets-on-mpex/ ; http://trilema.com/2013/mpex-one-year-of-dividends/ etc 422968;1387153948;fiat500;"on average the MPEx investor buying discontinued assets exclusively made a net loss of about two percent over the course of a little more than a year and a half" 422969;1387153957;fiat500;neat 422970;1387153992;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 2000 @ 0.001 = 2 BTC 422971;1387153996;mircea_popescu;overall s.dice broke even on price and made bank on dividends, s.mpoe paid a little dividends and went up about 30x or so since listing 422972;1387154004;mircea_popescu;and the smaller things are well... small. 422973;1387154020;mircea_popescu;the options tho, people made bank there 422974;1387154038;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/mpoe-bonds-historical-data-dec-2012-nov-2013/ and http://trilema.com/2012/mpoe-bonds-historical-data/ are both negative. 422975;1387154039;ozbot;MPOE bonds historical data, Dec 2012 - Nov 2013 pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 422976;1387154162;pizzaman1337;I'm curious to see what/if any affect X.EUR might have on things outside mpex/b-c 422977;1387154203;pizzaman1337;looks like someone placed a buy order? 422978;1387154310;Vexual;the mention of suitcases in this channel will propagate to a web article on bitcoin>bin ladens 422979;1387154323;mircea_popescu;pizzaman1337 ya lol 422980;1387154334;mircea_popescu;meanwhile : 84 cases of the plague w/ 40% mortality in Madagascar -- it has morphed from the original bubonic plague to pneumonic plague, easily transmissable... 422981;1387154377;Vexual;i told them not to open the vial 422982;1387154578;benkay;oh joy pneumonic. 422983;1387154613;fiat500;i laughed my ass off at the thought of jurov having to shuttle briefcases of cash for coinbr uses 422984;1387154615;fiat500;*users 422985;1387154691;jurov;hell yes 422986;1387154692;kakobrekla;its not suppose to be aesthetically appearling 422987;1387154724;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22962 @ 0.00090319 = 20.739 BTC [+] {3} 422988;1387154825;jurov;pizzaman1337: if you used a cardano for mpex trade, then it would be feasible to sell the acct 422989;1387154860;mircea_popescu;now this is true. course is risky, if your key falls in the fucking pit and dies, you're sol 422990;1387154866;mircea_popescu;but otherwise, you can actually deliver an acct. 422991;1387154877;jurov;but no it would not. you could have PUSH prepared for later execution 422992;1387154888;jurov;*signed 422993;1387154898;mircea_popescu;if you know what your shit will be like atg the time of demise. 422994;1387154907;mircea_popescu;say yiou have a push for X and you meanwhile sold Y 422995;1387154911;mircea_popescu;you'd have to keep it updated. 422996;1387154922;pizzaman1337;every time you did anything 422997;1387154923;mircea_popescu;(trivial to code into your pympex or w/e you use, obviously) 422998;1387154937;pizzaman1337;but then you need to keep that safe too 422999;1387154943;jurov;i can just sign PUSH|addr|9999999 for all assets? 423000;1387154945;kakobrekla;i use punch cards. 423001;1387154950;mircea_popescu;jurov ya but it'll fail 423002;1387154956;asciilifeform;ok friendly reminder 423003;1387154969;asciilifeform;cardano key extraction is not physically impossible (that'd be a lie) - just non-trivial. 423004;1387154984;jurov;hmmmmmmm.... so a bunch of smaller then 423005;1387155009;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform how'd one do it ? 423006;1387155016;asciilifeform;resistance to physical attack is not on the menu. (if you want this, encase yours in concrete.) 423007;1387155036;Vexual;epoxy 423008;1387155043;jurov;no need to extract the keys, prepared in advance PUSH will do 423009;1387155050;asciilifeform;see, there are two contradictory design objectives 423010;1387155056;asciilifeform;auditability and physical security 423011;1387155061;asciilifeform;they cannot be reconciled 423012;1387155066;asciilifeform;so the latter isn't in the mix 423013;1387155078;jurov;Vexual: asciilifeform posted a paper exactly about that yest 423014;1387155083;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform so suppose i want to extract the key so i can make a mpex acct and sell it ands then later steal the guy's shit. how do i do it ? 423015;1387155092;asciilifeform;the only definite promise is that the key cannot be exfiltrated silently by the attached pc. 423016;1387155111;asciilifeform;1) read the (to be published) design docs 423017;1387155117;asciilifeform;2) remove appropriate chips 423018;1387155124;asciilifeform;3) read back bits 423019;1387155131;asciilifeform;4) process into gpg-compatible key. 423020;1387155151;mircea_popescu;aha. 423021;1387155158;Vexual;nintendo has that exopy that will cunt up a chip if you try to get it off 423022;1387155165;dub;so, we need a new wot btw 423023;1387155172;asciilifeform;Vexual: if you keep keys in SRAM it gets much easier 423024;1387155172;dub;S.WOT? 423025;1387155173;pizzaman1337;mircea_popescu: you could pre-sign push commands for 1 satoshi a few billion times (or withdraw commands, or whatever) 423026;1387155174;mircea_popescu;dub why ?! 423027;1387155175;benkay;why new wot? 423028;1387155181;dub;current is broken 423029;1387155191;mircea_popescu;pizzaman1337 you could, but think of the effort. 423030;1387155191;asciilifeform;but then you risk loss on dead battery, airport xray, etc. 423031;1387155205;benkay;dub: broken hao? 423032;1387155208;dub;http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=stamit&sign=ANY&type=RECV 423033;1387155208;ozbot;Rating Details for User 'stamit' 423034;1387155210;mircea_popescu;dub can you be like explicit and everything ? 423035;1387155224;dub;story is this guy has some kind of personality issue where he can 423036;1387155241;mircea_popescu;i seem to recall stamit being sanwe. 423037;1387155243;mircea_popescu;sane* 423038;1387155249;dub;'t get over one person (gmaxwell) being a fuckwit 423039;1387155271;dub;so he rants a little bit, makes a nuisance of himself in a couple of channels 423040;1387155290;dub;gmax and shilltown negrate him 423041;1387155293;mircea_popescu;who the fuck is "thelordoftime" 423042;1387155305;dub;rules say if your trust web with nanotube is <0 you can't use the system 423043;1387155307;truffles;gmaxwell that douche 423044;1387155323;asciilifeform;since this is important, i'll repeat it: you can have a cryptowidget that nukes itself when disassembled, circuits potted in unobtainium, etc. or you can have one whose function you can personally verify. can't have both. 'fried ice.' 423045;1387155325;dub;mircea_popescu: gmax shil, 12 year old operator in 0otc 423046;1387155331;dub;-otc* 423047;1387155341;mircea_popescu;dub is this -otc drama ? 423048;1387155353;dub;its spilled out of -otc but basically 423049;1387155378;mircea_popescu;so the argument that wot is broken says that you can't rate unless you're above 0 and idiots can get you below 0 ? 423050;1387155389;dub;correct 423051;1387155426;dub;key is that nanotube has a Trust Cabal effect 423052;1387155440;asciilifeform;wait, everyone's rating counts towards this purpose equally? 423053;1387155443;asciilifeform;that's bizarre 423054;1387155446;mircea_popescu;the counter to this is that if you don't do this, anyone can end up -infinity by the effect of endless socks 423055;1387155465;Vexual;needs proof of stake 423056;1387155479;mircea_popescu;"I haven't traded with this guy, but I've heard from people I trust that he has used legal intimidation to force censorship of people's ratings of him. " 423057;1387155480;mircea_popescu;herp. 423058;1387155487;dub;exactly 423059;1387155492;mircea_popescu;since when is retardtown preoccupied with censorship lol 423060;1387155501;dub;'derp derp derp doing this will make gmaxwell like me' 423061;1387155506;mircea_popescu;or is it one of those, "we can't stand censorship that's not directed at the enemy" 423062;1387155539;asciilifeform;proof of stake? then who'd need wot. just have people sign 'i like mr. xyz' with an addr. key 423063;1387155587;asciilifeform;the other way to avoid 'imperium in imperio' in a wot is: a tyrant. 423064;1387155594;Vexual;50000bc hates you 423065;1387155598;dub;stamit is weird and has entitlement issues in that he thinks being a bag of air breathing meat entitles him to some basic rights 423066;1387155599;mircea_popescu;dub the funny thing is, gmaxwell himself is like 3 angry people away from oblivion 423067;1387155605;nubbins`;thing about the wot is that most of the ratings are less than useless 423068;1387155611;dub;but hes no scammer 423069;1387155613;nubbins`;seriously 423070;1387155617;nubbins`;"his ppusd for my btc" 423071;1387155619;nubbins`;who gives a fuck 423072;1387155628;mircea_popescu;nubbins` thing about this world is that most of everything in it is less than useless. 423073;1387155631;nubbins`;Web of Children 423074;1387155633;asciilifeform;easy fix for wot (was gonna write this myself before i ever heard of btc) is: no global totals. 423075;1387155637;mircea_popescu;same is true of houses, women, puppies, clouds, wjhat have you 423076;1387155642;asciilifeform;any user must be viewed through the lens of a selected other. 423077;1387155650;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform nobody reallty uses the global totals that's sane 423078;1387155651;benkay;^^ 423079;1387155657;nubbins`;mircea_popescu: even the puppies? D; 423080;1387155657;mircea_popescu;this is like, mpoe-pr 2012 bitcoin 101 423081;1387155666;asciilifeform;except, if we are told correctly, for the 0-cutoff 423082;1387155686;mircea_popescu;well it used to be a 0 total, apparently nanotube improved it so it's 0 to him 423083;1387155701;mircea_popescu;since he runs gribble there's some sense to this (as grible could reasonably use his rating to see the world) 423084;1387155703;asciilifeform;fixed then. got our tyrant plugged in. 423085;1387155722;mircea_popescu;i suppose a decent solution for this is for an interested 3rd party to make dubble, which looks from dub's perspective 423086;1387155731;mircea_popescu;i think nano'd be amenable to the arrangement. 423087;1387155802;nanotube;all the code is foss. wanna spin up your own bot, nobody's stopping you. 423088;1387155823;nanotube;it was just an expedient method to stop rating spam/shilling in its tracks. 423089;1387155825;nubbins`;nubble 423090;1387155853;mircea_popescu;i don't really see a better way tbh. 423091;1387155865;mircea_popescu;no matter what you do you'll end up with this tradeoff. 423092;1387155883;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00090275 = 1.1736 BTC [-] 423093;1387155976;mircea_popescu;you know exopy is much cuter than epoxy. i wonder why they didn't call it exopy. 423094;1387156076;Vexual;stupid chemists 423095;1387156077;nubbins`;!ticker m s.mg 423096;1387156077;assbot;[MPEX:S.MG] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.000115 / 0.00011508 / 0.000155 (3000 shares, 0.35 BTC), 30D: 0.0001 / 0.00014023 / 0.00016 (98322 shares, 13.79 BTC) 423097;1387156097;nubbins`;!ticker h smg 423098;1387156098;assbot;[HAVELOCK:SMG] 1D: / 0 / (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00010025 / 0.00013905 / 0.00020000 (19055 shares, 2.64967247 BTC), 30D: 0.00005778 / 0.00011754 / 0.00020000 (74621 shares, 8.77068209 BTC) 423099;1387156141;nubbins`;exopy describes how complicated it is to find the exits 423100;1387156154;nubbins`;fire marshals use it when inspecting buildings 423101;1387156201;mircea_popescu;lol 423102;1387156251;mircea_popescu;dub i'd be much more worried for people like http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=quickcoin&sign=ANY&type=RECV 423103;1387156257;mircea_popescu;that kid's now fucked for instance. 423104;1387156341;nubbins`;heh 423105;1387156359;nubbins`;"i'm rating this guy -10 because he scammed wrinklemonster" 423106;1387156407;nubbins`;mircea_popescu: speaking of ratings, how about giving me some love one of these days? 423107;1387156425;mircea_popescu;;;rated nubbins` 423108;1387156425;gribble;You have not yet rated user nubbins` 423109;1387156429;mircea_popescu;o hey. 423110;1387156434;dub;lel 423111;1387156435;dub;http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=tim-tams&sign=ANY&type=RECV 423112;1387156436;ozbot;Rating Details for User 'tim-tams' 423113;1387156448;pankkake;blame the ` 423114;1387156452;dub;not sure if sockies 423115;1387156456;mircea_popescu;;;rate nubbins` 2 One of the first Stock Warrant holders. 423116;1387156458;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user nubbins` has been recorded. 423117;1387156464;nubbins`;hey! thanks 423118;1387156477;nubbins`;pankkake: everyone does ;) 423119;1387156485;truffles;look at mp spaming ratings 423120;1387156490;truffles;inside job 423121;1387156493;nubbins`;"ident with gribble or you're getting banned in 60 seconds" 423122;1387156499;mircea_popescu;fucking historical too, like some guy goiing "o yeah, and then i bought the 3rd share printed in the us" 423123;1387156504;nubbins`;you have any idea how fucking hard it is to auth in 60 seconds? D; 423124;1387156521;nubbins`;mircea_popescu: i still have plans to make a nice print of it some day 423125;1387156542;nubbins`;cutting my teeth on a related project right now 423126;1387156554;mircea_popescu;depending how your offline stuff is set up you might not even be able to log in 60 seconds. 423127;1387156632;mircea_popescu;dub definitely sockies, 2 days after he negged a scammer. 423128;1387156660;nubbins`;tim-tams sells xau 423129;1387156679;mircea_popescu;like a lot ? 423130;1387156692;nubbins`;sorry, ah! 423131;1387156694;nubbins`;*ag 423132;1387156698;mircea_popescu;a 423133;1387156707;nubbins`;not a ton 423134;1387156859;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 701 @ 0.00049999 = 0.3505 BTC [+] 423135;1387156904;nubbins`;just kind of odd to see people selling metals for btc these days 423136;1387156950;benkay;almost as odd as physical bitcoins, eh? 423137;1387156954;mircea_popescu;lol 423138;1387156958;mircea_popescu;what;s so odd about it ? 423139;1387156985;nubbins`;ah, i guess i'm just making the assumption that he initially bought these metals with btc 423140;1387156988;nubbins`;that may not be the case 423141;1387157000;mircea_popescu;seems improbable. 423142;1387157037;nubbins`;well, the alternative (that he's buying btc with fiat via PMs) makes a lot more sense 423143;1387157042;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 9 @ 0.02316222 = 0.2085 BTC [+] {4} 423144;1387157070;nubbins`;i guess never really occurred to me, as i've only done the opposite 423145;1387157104;mircea_popescu;the uppitty tortilla character supposedly got into btc by trading his silver stash 423146;1387157190;kakobrekla;better tortilla than usagi 423147;1387157210;kakobrekla;both sound like dishes 423148;1387157210;mircea_popescu;i thought usagi sold his guitar. 423149;1387157218;nubbins`;heh! 423150;1387157225;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00090275 = 5.3262 BTC [-] 423151;1387157249;nubbins`;i had bought about $2000 worth of btc before i realized that it made far more sense to sell goods and services for btc 423152;1387157257;nubbins`;i think the first thing i sold was a btc logo t-shirt 423153;1387157299;kakobrekla;"get me some sushi and some raw usagi! And bring a spoon, cant put my eyes out with these sticks even if i wanted" 423154;1387157469;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1615 @ 0.00090364 = 1.4594 BTC [+] 423155;1387157837;mircea_popescu;diametric ello. 423156;1387157901;diametric;hey 423157;1387158079;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12100 @ 0.00090366 = 10.9343 BTC [+] 423158;1387158466;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/encarnacao-do-demonio-1.jpg 423159;1387158600;diametric;fun 423160;1387159306;mircea_popescu;apparently google imaging "site:trilema.com tits" and other dirty words yields a bevy of cool stuff. 423161;1387159317;mircea_popescu;i guess now i know what i'll be doing when i'll be a dried up geezer. 423162;1387159404;diametric;mircea_popescu: yeah i don't know if you realized, but you left directory indexes on 423163;1387159436;mircea_popescu;tis deliberate 423164;1387159460;BingoBoingo;Since I seem to get most of my traffic from addressing n00b traps http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2013/12/15/dogecoin-the-impeding-danger-of-old-meme/ So Doge 423165;1387159509;diametric;mircea_popescu: so i take it you've been informed of my digital fabrication abilities? 423166;1387159522;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo "Well this is somewhat embarrassing, isnt it?" 423167;1387159576;pankkake;I wget -r trilema but besides a few old blog headers nothing much interesting 423168;1387159605;asciilifeform;diametric makes very nifty flying machines. and scanned head busts. and other goodies. 423169;1387159631;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: No doubt, but embarassement is a force of education 423170;1387159643;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo turns out i had copied ther whole line 423171;1387159671;mircea_popescu;anyway, you might wish to do your htaccess tolerantly, so http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2013/12/15/dogecoin-the-impeding-danger-of-old-meme/%20So%20Doge still resolves 423172;1387159671;BingoBoingo;Really? 423173;1387159733;BingoBoingo;Ah 423174;1387159782;BingoBoingo;I usually just left click links. I forget that there's 800 different ways to move them from the IRC client to the browser. 423175;1387159787;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00090444 = 3.1655 BTC [+] 423176;1387159818;mircea_popescu;i don't trust auto-anything. 423177;1387159924;mircea_popescu;holy shit, dogecoin is an actual thing ? 423178;1387159929;mircea_popescu;i thought we were kidding around 423179;1387159990;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: No, It's a scrypt altcoin, roughly 100 billion coins if I counted the zeros right glancing at it. 423180;1387160029;nubbins`;such faucet, for real 423181;1387160225;benkay;it gets better 423182;1387160227;benkay;random block rewards 423183;1387160231;BingoBoingo;DogeCOin, SO thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=361813.0 423184;1387160234;diametric;its a hilarious satirical coin 423185;1387160290;jurov;and someone is actually pumping it 423186;1387160313;benkay;to the doge 423187;1387160325;jurov;wow 423188;1387160348;benkay;so pump 423189;1387160369;nubbins`;"what is with the digger built into the QT. I never got it running, always said no dig such fail." 423190;1387160370;nubbins`;heheh 423191;1387160380;mircea_popescu;actually block rewards equal to say the 5th digit of the nonce are an interesting idea 423192;1387160406;pankkake;stupider coins have been created 423193;1387160421;pankkake;coins made to be bad got traded 423194;1387160427;mircea_popescu;basically, the longer a block interval, the lower the reward 423195;1387160435;mircea_popescu;gives the coin an incentive to spontaneously die 423196;1387161190;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11350 @ 0.00090444 = 10.2654 BTC [+] 423197;1387161678;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.00295017 = 1.4751 BTC [+] {6} 423198;1387161739;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9847 @ 0.00090366 = 8.8983 BTC [-] 423199;1387161794;fiat500;https://github.com/dogecoin/dogecoin/commits/master 423200;1387161801;fiat500;l.o.l 423201;1387161922;pankkake;haha nice. even the username is funny 423202;1387162263;diametric;they changed all the buttons too 423203;1387162352;benkay;doge forever 423204;1387162551;benkay;https://coinedup.com/OrderBook?market=DOGE&base=BTC 423205;1387162567;ozbot;Coined Up - The FREE Crypto-Only Currency Exchange 423206;1387162584;benkay;2 satoshi spread 423207;1387162612;frb;a coin whose only redeeming feature is that it is named after an internet meme 423208;1387162614;frb;what could go wrong? 423209;1387162650;benkay;many noob 423210;1387162688;fiat500;http://dogechain.info/ 423211;1387162689;ozbot;Dogecoin 423212;1387162694;fiat500;they went all out 423213;1387162780;benkay;i think it's a stunt to drive business for http://www.designinghypermediaapis.com/ butttttt i may be wrong 423214;1387162792;the20year1;Is it possible to tie a new altcoin to btc addresses? 423215;1387162813;the20year1;It'd be pretty cool to spawn off an altcoin backed by real estate through our bitcoin realestate business, but i don't know of any viable way to do it 423216;1387162849;BingoBoingo;benkay: That has to be the saddest site on the internet 423217;1387162867;benkay;not as bad as ur moms 423218;1387162891;benkay;or mpex 423219;1387162924;fiat500;im digging for doge now 423220;1387162928;BingoBoingo;benkay: There is a distinct difference between badness and sadness as a question of being different kinds of properties. 423221;1387162936;fiat500;very moon 423222;1387163089;benkay;BingoBoingo: i don't know that i buy asciilifeform's ball-o-mud argument on urbit yet. given enough traction wouldn't it make sense to rewrite the important bits for fpgas or what have we? 423223;1387163128;benkay;granted i don't know anything about anything, and there's the whole keyboard and display thing to deal with 423224;1387163264;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3050 @ 0.00090366 = 2.7562 BTC [-] 423225;1387163338;BingoBoingo;benkay: Well You can spec a Turing complete language on a napkin in the bar. What takes time is building an implementation that runs on something. For most applications now, the various *nix's are going to be the best things available. If you want to write a new future of computing though instead of inventing Urbit someone could have just as well made a *nix that only offered as a Userland GNU Guile. It seems to me the Closest thi 423226;1387163339;BingoBoingo;ng to Urbit and the thing that highlights its futility is Clojure. 423227;1387163383;the20year1;Anyone have an answer to my question? 423228;1387163407;benkay;the20year1: what on earth do you mean by 'tie a new altcoin to btc addresses'? 423229;1387163409;mircea_popescu;http://www.harlanellison.com/heboard/ihnm/code/hypertxt.htm 423230;1387163413;mircea_popescu;this is a sadder site 423231;1387163414;mircea_popescu;than anything 423232;1387163445;nubbins`;BingoBoingo: game? 423233;1387163471;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: Why not, give me some time to set up the board 423234;1387163487;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Bootstrap could make it sadder. 423235;1387163490;nubbins`;great, we'll get gribble to flip 423236;1387163503;BingoBoingo;Cool 423237;1387163530;BingoBoingo;I'll take tails since you know the flippage 423238;1387163539;nubbins`;;;flip 423239;1387163540;gribble;Error: "flip" is not a valid command. 423240;1387163545;nubbins`;i mean, uh! 423241;1387163547;nubbins`;;;coin 423242;1387163547;gribble;tails 423243;1387163567;mircea_popescu;;;coin 423244;1387163568;gribble;heads 423245;1387163569;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00090444 = 8.2304 BTC [+] 423246;1387163577;mircea_popescu;gribs gives me such heads. 423247;1387163605;nubbins`;many flip, so dispute resolution 423248;1387163643;benkay;BingoBoingo: babes have arrived, i'll grill ya later 423249;1387163710;pankkake;what year was the worst thing that happened to the U.S. dollar? 423250;1387163715;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: Which flip are we using? 423251;1387163719;BingoBoingo;pankkake: 1934 423252;1387163723;nubbins`;BingoBoingo: you can go ahead 423253;1387163723;pankkake;thanks 423254;1387163733;mircea_popescu;nah, the war. 423255;1387163740;nubbins`;we'll use mine 423256;1387163741;mircea_popescu;dollar split, the north was like, 1:2 423257;1387163752;mircea_popescu;the south like 1:5 423258;1387163789;nubbins`;i can recall trading cad:usd at like 1.4:1 before going on vacation as a kid 423259;1387163791;asciilifeform;benkay: happy to answe that one. 423260;1387163823;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: I'll start with 1. d4 then 423261;1387163836;nubbins`;d5 423262;1387163848;asciilifeform;urbit (or any other graph-reduction machine with 'immutable data') is exquisitely unsuited to hardware. at least in this universe. 423263;1387163861;BingoBoingo;c4 423264;1387163875;nubbins`;e5 423265;1387163878;benkay;asciilifeform: why is that? do forgive my complete ignorance of the domain... 423266;1387163886;asciilifeform;the whole 'immutability' thing is an outcome of a decades-long acid trip by 'mathematical cs' wankers 423267;1387163915;BingoBoingo;dxe5 423268;1387163918;mircea_popescu;lol 423269;1387163934;nubbins`;d4 423270;1387163934;asciilifeform;they have this notion that if you constrain the system in various odd and quite unpleasant ways, you will then be able to mathematically prove useful facts about it. 423271;1387163972;asciilifeform;but 'you can't transition from the informal to the formal by formal means' 423272;1387163988;asciilifeform;the proof doesn't tell you anything about your priors being valid 423273;1387163992;BingoBoingo;e3 423274;1387164015;asciilifeform;and reality has a nasty habit of violating your priors. because a physical machine is not a mathematical object. 423275;1387164018;asciilifeform;'spherical horse.' 423276;1387164030;nubbins`;c6 423277;1387164041;randomcloud;Something-something you can play chess here? 423278;1387164057;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20850 @ 0.0009032 = 18.8317 BTC [-] {4} 423279;1387164061;BingoBoingo;Nf3 423280;1387164062;nubbins`;randomcloud: after a fashion 423281;1387164098;nubbins`;Bf4+ 423282;1387164120;nubbins`;sorry 423283;1387164123;nubbins`;Bb4+ 423284;1387164181;BingoBoingo;Bd2 423285;1387164231;asciilifeform;author of urbit wrote some pretty good screeds on why he quit academic cs: (http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2007/07/my-navrozov-moments.html and http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2007/08/whats-wrong-with-cs-research.html) and then proceeded to... well, do what he did. 423286;1387164271;nubbins`;Qe7 423287;1387164297;BingoBoingo;BxB 423288;1387164326;nubbins`;Nxb4 423289;1387164381;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: You have a Knight facing b4? 423290;1387164395;nubbins`;should be one on c6 423291;1387164402;BingoBoingo;Ah. 423292;1387164405;nubbins`;just after "Spherical horse" 423293;1387164442;nubbins`;we can rewind if you like 423294;1387164453;BingoBoingo;Nxd4 423295;1387164489;nubbins`;Nh6 423296;1387164551;benkay;asciilifeform: doesn't immutability also help averagely-talented software teams operate in highly threaded environments? 423297;1387164592;nubbins`;asciilifeform: quitting something and giving it up are two different things, i guess ;D 423298;1387164606;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00090275 = 2.5277 BTC [-] 423299;1387164621;asciilifeform;not only that, but it helps to feed memory and disk manufacturers' children! 423300;1387164625;asciilifeform;job creation! 423301;1387164632;asciilifeform;and so on. 423302;1387164635;BingoBoingo;Be2 423303;1387164657;nubbins`;Bg4 423304;1387164667;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00090196 = 6.2235 BTC [-] 423305;1387164717;BingoBoingo;BxB 423306;1387164783;benkay;asciilifeform: doesn't shitty code that gets hardware deployed against its performance problems carry more responsibility for that? 423307;1387164794;nubbins`;Nxg4 423308;1387164814;asciilifeform;benkay: if 'nothing ever actually gets deleted' isn't shitty, i don't know what it. 423309;1387164841;BingoBoingo;Qxg4 423310;1387164858;asciilifeform;decreeing that buildings shall have water pipes but no drains would make the lives of construction crews easier, but for some odd reason isn't a popular idea. 423311;1387164880;nubbins`;0-0 423312;1387164906;BingoBoingo;Nf5 423313;1387164911;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7250 @ 0.00090444 = 6.5572 BTC [+] 423314;1387165028;nubbins`;Nc2 423315;1387165032;nubbins`;+ 423316;1387165086;benkay;ah so you object to urbit's low-level immutability 423317;1387165106;BingoBoingo;Ke2 423318;1387165112;asciilifeform;that was simply an answer to the question 'if it catches on, won't someone slip appropriate silicon under it.' 423319;1387165134;nubbins`;Re8 423320;1387165165;BingoBoingo;Qxg7++ 423321;1387165178;nubbins`;ah hahaha. gg. 423322;1387165185;BingoBoingo;gg 423323;1387165205;BingoBoingo;I have to say e5 was ballsy 423324;1387165226;nubbins`;thought i'd try stirring up the pot early 423325;1387165254;nubbins`;really it was that whole bishop/knight/queen trade that did me in, i think 423326;1387165277;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00090444 = 6.2406 BTC [+] 423327;1387165306;nubbins`;i'd play again if you're up for it 423328;1387165328;BingoBoingo;Sure Do you want me to flip this time? 423329;1387165360;nubbins`;yeah, go ahead. i'll call heads 423330;1387165393;BingoBoingo;;;coin 423331;1387165393;gribble;heads 423332;1387165417;nubbins`;1. e4 423333;1387165455;BingoBoingo;d6 423334;1387165460;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 120 @ 0.001 = 0.12 BTC 423335;1387165524;nubbins`;Nc3 423336;1387165560;BingoBoingo;Nf6 423337;1387165606;nubbins`;Nf3 423338;1387165633;BingoBoingo;g6 423339;1387165649;nubbins`;d3 423340;1387165665;BingoBoingo;Bg7 423341;1387165743;nubbins`;e5 423342;1387165827;BingoBoingo;dxe5 423343;1387165854;mircea_popescu;http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-12-15/jpmorgans-bitcoin-alternative-patent-rejected-175-times 423344;1387165856;ozbot;JPMorgan's "Bitcoin-Alternative" Patent Rejected (175 Times) | Zero Hedge 423345;1387165856;mircea_popescu;herp 423346;1387165919;benkay;is this the layer on top of the credit card processing system thing? 423347;1387165960;nubbins`;d3 423348;1387165965;nubbins`;sorry, d4 423349;1387166017;BingoBoingo;exd4 423350;1387166037;nubbins`;Nxd4 423351;1387166070;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00090196 = 4.2392 BTC [-] 423352;1387166112;BingoBoingo;0-0 423353;1387166114;mircea_popescu;ya 423354;1387166124;nubbins`;f3 423355;1387166156;BingoBoingo;Nf6 423356;1387166175;nubbins`;i think you already have N on f6 423357;1387166186;nubbins`;yeah, just after 2nd last assbot 423358;1387166203;BingoBoingo;AH, Nc6 423359;1387166215;BingoBoingo;Sorry, I'm running low on VOdka 423360;1387166227;nubbins`;Be3 423361;1387166253;truffles;chatroom chess? 423362;1387166253;nubbins`;they have this vodka that comes in a glass skull here 423363;1387166269;BingoBoingo;e5 423364;1387166277;nubbins`;truffles: bingo is 1-0 423365;1387166285;nubbins`;well i guess 3-0 all total at this point 423366;1387166290;truffles;so ure not so good 423367;1387166291;nubbins`;maybe more 423368;1387166292;nubbins`;no 423369;1387166302;BingoBoingo;For the night. Career I believe it is 4-0, someone else played a game at a point 423370;1387166374;truffles;no Qf7 ? 423371;1387166380;BingoBoingo;I lose a bunch IRL though. And back when CoinChat was a thing I lost quite a few games there 423372;1387166429;nubbins`;Be2 423373;1387166484;BingoBoingo;exNd4 423374;1387166534;nubbins`;Qxd4 423375;1387166568;BingoBoingo;Nc6xd4 423376;1387166592;nubbins`;Bxd4 423377;1387166610;BingoBoingo;Qxd4 423378;1387166651;nubbins`;0-0-0 423379;1387166672;BingoBoingo;I don't know that Castling through check is legal... 423380;1387166685;nubbins`;hm, that's a good point 423381;1387166689;asciilifeform;afaik nope. 423382;1387166697;Apocalyptic;it's indeed not 423383;1387166699;nubbins`;aha, you're right 423384;1387166726;mircea_popescu;scam castle! 423385;1387166753;nubbins`;0-0 423386;1387166772;BingoBoingo;I believe that would be actively castling into check... 423387;1387166791;nubbins`;HAHA. thinking > drinking 423388;1387166803;nubbins`;third time's a charm? 423389;1387166805;BingoBoingo;About to pour another one soon. 423390;1387166811;BingoBoingo;Sure. 423391;1387166827;nubbins`;Nd1 423392;1387166897;BingoBoingo;Nd5 423393;1387166943;nubbins`;Rc1 423394;1387166985;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00090196 = 4.5098 BTC [-] 423395;1387166989;BingoBoingo;Re8 423396;1387167026;nubbins`;g3 423397;1387167091;BingoBoingo;Bh6 423398;1387167142;nubbins`;Nf2 423399;1387167278;BingoBoingo;BxRc1 423400;1387167298;nubbins`;Ng4 423401;1387167358;BingoBoingo;Qd1+ 423402;1387167410;nubbins`;Kxd1 423403;1387167474;BingoBoingo;Bxb2 423404;1387167518;nubbins`;Nh6+ 423405;1387167537;BingoBoingo;Kg7 423406;1387167605;nubbins`;h4 423407;1387167641;BingoBoingo;Kxh6 423408;1387167691;nubbins`;g4 423409;1387167754;BingoBoingo;Ne3+ 423410;1387167845;nubbins`;Ke1 423411;1387167922;BingoBoingo;Nxg4 423412;1387167962;nubbins`;xg4 423413;1387167984;BingoBoingo;Bxg4 423414;1387168023;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00090444 = 4.7031 BTC [+] 423415;1387168126;nubbins`;Nc4 423416;1387168129;nubbins`;sorry 423417;1387168130;nubbins`;Bc4 423418;1387168144;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20350 @ 0.00090469 = 18.4104 BTC [+] {2} 423419;1387168150;nubbins`;wait, no 423420;1387168154;nubbins`;D; 423421;1387168159;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: Pretty sure moving that Bishop opens you to check... 423422;1387168162;asciilifeform;re: urbit: anyone curious about my answer to the quandary 'so, how the hell /should/ we build a computer' is invited to read: 423423;1387168165;asciilifeform;http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1361 423424;1387168166;ozbot;Loper OS » The Alert Reader. 423425;1387168173;nubbins`;Rh2. 423426;1387168221;BingoBoingo;RxB+ 423427;1387168244;nubbins`;Rxe2 423428;1387168261;BingoBoingo;BxR 423429;1387168272;nubbins`;Kxe2 423430;1387168282;nubbins`;ha ha, now it's a game 423431;1387168295;BingoBoingo;Kh5 423432;1387168317;nubbins`;Kd3 423433;1387168339;BingoBoingo;f5 423434;1387168415;nubbins`;Ke3 423435;1387168432;BingoBoingo;Kg4 423436;1387168482;nubbins`;c4 423437;1387168504;BingoBoingo;Re8 423438;1387168510;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16250 @ 0.00090551 = 14.7145 BTC [+] {2} 423439;1387168516;BingoBoingo;+ 423440;1387168517;nubbins`;Kd4 423441;1387168529;BingoBoingo;Bishop... 423442;1387168562;nubbins`;Kd2 423443;1387168574;nubbins`;sloppy 423444;1387168574;BingoBoingo;f4 423445;1387168581;BingoBoingo;It happens 423446;1387168591;nubbins`;c5 423447;1387168659;BingoBoingo;f3 423448;1387168715;nubbins`;Ke1 423449;1387168719;nubbins`;nope 423450;1387168730;nubbins`;lel 423451;1387168732;nubbins`;Kc2 423452;1387168742;BingoBoingo;f2 423453;1387168758;nubbins`;Kxb2 423454;1387168767;kakobrekla;nubbins` sank my boat :( 423455;1387168774;nubbins`;beep bloop! 423456;1387168781;BingoBoingo;Re3 423457;1387168812;nubbins`;you got me, gg 423458;1387168823;BingoBoingo;gg 423459;1387168870;BingoBoingo;I completely forgot the King could take pieces when I went Qd1 423460;1387168876;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41900 @ 0.00090113 = 37.7573 BTC [-] {4} 423461;1387169120;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 16 @ 0.24075319 = 3.8521 BTC [+] {5} 423462;1387169151;nubbins`;yeah, i'm officially done with chess for the night 423463;1387169160;nubbins`;can't even keep it straight 423464;1387169425;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.05 = 1 BTC 423465;1387170157;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 26 @ 0.24946149 = 6.486 BTC [+] {5} 423466;1387171682;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 100 @ 0.05 = 5 BTC 423467;1387171804;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.24999998 = 2 BTC [+] {2} 423468;1387171865;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.25 = 1 BTC [+] 423469;1387171926;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4435 @ 0.00089935 = 3.9886 BTC [-] 423470;1387172414;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.25 = 1.25 BTC [+] 423471;1387173268;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31450 @ 0.0008992 = 28.2798 BTC [-] {3} 423472;1387173695;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.0009027 = 4.6038 BTC [+] 423473;1387174061;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 8 @ 0.08302499 = 0.6642 BTC [-] {4} 423474;1387174183;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.05 = 0.65 BTC 423475;1387174305;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.0008987 = 9.5262 BTC [-] {2} 423476;1387174366;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7950 @ 0.0009027 = 7.1765 BTC [+] {2} 423477;1387174610;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.05 = 0.5 BTC 423478;1387174671;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 250 @ 0.00230002 = 0.575 BTC [-] {2} 423479;1387174732;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 26 @ 0.0228 = 0.5928 BTC [-] 423480;1387177050;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 340 @ 0.00296899 = 1.0095 BTC [+] {2} 423481;1387177111;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 258 @ 0.00296996 = 0.7662 BTC [+] {3} 423482;1387177112;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24840 @ 0.00089845 = 22.3175 BTC [-] 423483;1387177172;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 675 @ 0.00297781 = 2.01 BTC [+] {2} 423484;1387177233;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 300 @ 0.00297861 = 0.8936 BTC [+] {4} 423485;1387177294;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 107 @ 0.00298 = 0.3189 BTC [+] {2} 423486;1387177355;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 70 @ 0.00238998 = 0.1673 BTC [+] 423487;1387177356;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21350 @ 0.00090223 = 19.2626 BTC [+] {2} 423488;1387177904;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17200 @ 0.00090311 = 15.5335 BTC [+] {4} 423489;1387178026;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11752 @ 0.00089777 = 10.5506 BTC [-] {2} 423490;1387178397;Apocalyptic;komododragon, sup 423491;1387178495;komododragon;what up 423492;1387178498;komododragon;you fucking #brokeboy 423493;1387178510;komododragon;running the late shift tonight again you fucking mut 423494;1387178880;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 210 @ 0.00230381 = 0.4838 BTC [-] {4} 423495;1387179063;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12400 @ 0.00089756 = 11.1297 BTC [-] 423496;1387179124;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 100 @ 0.05 = 5 BTC 423497;1387179307;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.02375 = 0.2375 BTC [+] 423498;1387179368;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.02429898 = 0.243 BTC [+] {4} 423499;1387179856;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10625 @ 0.00089883 = 9.5501 BTC [+] 423500;1387180531;newguy;;;bcauth newguy 423501;1387180532;gribble;Request successful for user newguy, hostmask newguy!~truerelig@180.191.169.190. Your challenge string is: freenode:#bitcoin-otc:801499a6e823efeda47d85dcc68470a283c226f35d4597682b2c2414 423502;1387181076;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5319 @ 0.0009029 = 4.8025 BTC [+] 423503;1387182113;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12617 @ 0.00089994 = 11.3545 BTC [-] {2} 423504;1387182292;Apocalyptic;seriously ASAPCA gtfo 423505;1387182321;ASAPCA;lol 423506;1387182325;ASAPCA;you my good sir 423507;1387182328;ASAPCA;are going to get 423508;1387182330;ASAPCA;hit at least 423509;1387182332;ASAPCA;30 times 423510;1387182334;ASAPCA;i swear to fucking god 423511;1387182417;ASAPCA;you better stay up with me 423512;1387182418;ASAPCA;and watch 423513;1387182425;ASAPCA;now that I got my hands on you 423514;1387182427;ASAPCA;you're going to wish 423515;1387182429;ASAPCA;you never got in our way 423516;1387182431;ASAPCA;you mother fucker 423517;1387182541;Apocalyptic;*sigh* 423518;1387182553;KINGLILJAYYYYYYY;yeha 423519;1387182555;KINGLILJAYYYYYYY;what i been saying 423520;1387182556;KINGLILJAYYYYYYY;all these times 423521;1387182558;KINGLILJAYYYYYYY;you've kicked me 423522;1387182559;KINGLILJAYYYYYYY;and said 423523;1387182560;KINGLILJAYYYYYYY;U MAD? 423524;1387182561;KINGLILJAYYYYYYY;U MAD? 423525;1387182562;KINGLILJAYYYYYYY;yeah bro 423526;1387182565;KINGLILJAYYYYYYY;i was fucking mad 423527;1387182566;KINGLILJAYYYYYYY;i was livid 423528;1387182572;Apocalyptic;i can imagine 423529;1387182576;KINGLILJAYYYYYYY;well 423530;1387182578;KINGLILJAYYYYYYY;you gonna feel it 423531;1387182582;KINGLILJAYYYYYYY;with this shit 423532;1387182592;KINGLILJAYYYYYYY;you fucking maggot 423533;1387182931;BDKBDK;your going to learn 423534;1387182939;BDKBDK;today 423535;1387182941;BDKBDK;you mother fucker 423536;1387183080;KINGLILJAYYYYYYY;ahhh 423537;1387183082;KINGLILJAYYYYYYY;looks like 423538;1387183084;KINGLILJAYYYYYYY;its over 423539;1387183126;toronto;OH 423540;1387183127;toronto;AHAHA 423541;1387183129;toronto;MAYBE NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 423542;1387183145;twizt;huh 423543;1387183148;twizt;whats going on 423544;1387183165;Apocalyptic;this chan could really use some op 423545;1387183179;kushedoutt;oh yes 423546;1387183180;Apocalyptic;twizt, just a random douche hating 423547;1387183181;kushedoutt;it should 423548;1387183182;kushedoutt;could 423549;1387183272;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6895 @ 0.00090361 = 6.2304 BTC [+] 423550;1387183333;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3255 @ 0.00090392 = 2.9423 BTC [+] 423551;1387183403;ASAPCA;aight 423552;1387183404;ASAPCA;well 423553;1387183405;ASAPCA;guess the party 423554;1387183406;ASAPCA;is up 423555;1387184248;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2124 @ 0.00089881 = 1.9091 BTC [-] {2} 423556;1387184309;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9250 @ 0.00090184 = 8.342 BTC [+] 423557;1387186017;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10516 @ 0.00089747 = 9.4378 BTC [-] {2} 423558;1387186078;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3534 @ 0.00089584 = 3.1659 BTC [-] 423559;1387186322;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5782 @ 0.00090063 = 5.2074 BTC [+] {2} 423560;1387189189;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6850 @ 0.00089974 = 6.1632 BTC [-] 423561;1387189494;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14250 @ 0.00089584 = 12.7657 BTC [-] 423562;1387189982;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15718 @ 0.00090128 = 14.1663 BTC [+] 423563;1387190043;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5732 @ 0.00090185 = 5.1694 BTC [+] {2} 423564;1387191629;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9050 @ 0.00090238 = 8.1665 BTC [+] {2} 423565;1387192727;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00089643 = 11.8329 BTC [-] {3} 423566;1387196753;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00089863 = 6.7397 BTC [+] 423567;1387197424;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.00089489 = 6.9801 BTC [-] {2} 423568;1387197851;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00089863 = 6.2005 BTC [+] 423569;1387198766;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00089476 = 10.4687 BTC [-] 423570;1387199010;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9351 @ 0.00089476 = 8.3669 BTC [-] 423571;1387199181;mircea_popescu;Apocalyptic lol so what was that all about ? 423572;1387199201;Apocalyptic;i call him out, he's our usual scammer in -otc 423573;1387199216;Apocalyptic;so he got pissed 423574;1387199237;Apocalyptic;and started creating fake accounts to negrate me 423575;1387199240;Apocalyptic;& other ops 423576;1387199240;gribble;Error: "other" is not a valid command. 423577;1387199272;truffles;lol at that 423578;1387199301;truffles;at the gibble thing.. 423579;1387199477;lyspooner;what is min size for x.eur 423580;1387199523;lyspooner;and do i understand the specifications correctly that davout will be responsible for defining delivery details? 423581;1387199925;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4055 @ 0.00089476 = 3.6283 BTC [-] 423582;1387199986;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15512 @ 0.00089469 = 13.8784 BTC [-] 423583;1387200098;mircea_popescu;lyspooner what do you mean min size ? you can get 1 423584;1387200116;jurov;he prolly means the lot 423585;1387200125;mircea_popescu;Apocalyptic you getting a lot of that in -otc these days huh ? i see Azelphur negging people, that's a rarity. 423586;1387200134;mircea_popescu;1 x.eur = 1 eur 423587;1387200177;mircea_popescu; and do i understand the specifications correctly that davout will be responsible for defining delivery details? << within reason and in advance. 423588;1387200186;lyspooner;so i buy 1 x.eur, hold it to expiration, and then davout gives me 1 eur 423589;1387200190;mircea_popescu;yea 423590;1387200201;jurov;and MKFUT does work on x.eur with 1.8 EUR collateral equivalent? 423591;1387200218;mircea_popescu;at expiration you can either take 1 euro in cash if you go through the delivery process or have it rolled to next month's x.eur 423592;1387200223;mircea_popescu;jurov no. 423593;1387200254;mircea_popescu;but you can contact davout, and deliver euros to him on bc, which arrangement he may accept 423594;1387200258;lyspooner;i could bankrupt davout by buying several instances of 1 euro from davout, holding them to expiration and having him wire me 1 eur at as many bank accounts as i have contracts 423595;1387200271;mircea_popescu;this obviously being a mm feature, don't expect it to happen for 7.8 eur or some bs 423596;1387200286;mircea_popescu;lyspooner afaik there's a 5 eur charge per delivery. 423597;1387200289;mircea_popescu;go ahead 423598;1387200290;jurov;right 423599;1387200365;mircea_popescu;anyway, the phys delivery is mostly there to keep things honest. unlike all the bucket shops running a soft-settled only "future" 423600;1387200369;mircea_popescu;which obviously is not a future. 423601;1387200369;lyspooner;because delivery specifications are made by a single-market maker, this contract will always guaranteed to have a single seller? 423602;1387200380;mircea_popescu;no such guarantee is made. 423603;1387200398;lyspooner;but davout is responsible for his delivery specs, which might differ from, say, mine 423604;1387200406;mircea_popescu;yes. 423605;1387200408;lyspooner;how will a buyer know whome he is facing ? 423606;1387200411;mircea_popescu;(see teh email you just got) 423607;1387200415;lyspooner;ah ok sec 423608;1387200435;jurov;we'll have to wait for official announcement with the specs.. or was it done already? 423609;1387200449;mircea_popescu;jurov click all the links! 423610;1387200474;mircea_popescu;Monthly settlement details available here : http://xeur.bitcoin-central.net/ 423611;1387200480;jurov;i see 423612;1387200535;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14475 @ 0.00089656 = 12.9777 BTC [+] {3} 423613;1387200665;lyspooner;so mpex will not take responsibility for davout or anyone else's failure to deliver? 423614;1387200675;mircea_popescu;yeah, because they deposit to mm. 423615;1387200683;mircea_popescu;(c) The Market Maker will make a deposit of BTC with the Exchange, on the basis of which the Exchange will create a number of X.EUR contracts in the Market Maker's account, by the criterion of the weighted spot price rounded to the lowest 10. 423616;1387200725;lyspooner;so if you choose 5 market makers for the product, each with their own delivery specification, the buyer of the contract faces all of the different mm's 423617;1387200764;mircea_popescu;and 423618;1387200765;mircea_popescu;(a) The Market Maker will immediately notify the Exchange should observance of the terms of this contract become impossible for the future. Should such notification be received, the Exchange will distribute the Market Maker's deposit to contract holders, in proportion of the number of contracts they hold but not in excess of the implied spot value rounded to the lowest 10. This distribution will constitute the sole rem 423619;1387200765;mircea_popescu;edy for contract holders from the part of the Exchange. 423620;1387200786;mircea_popescu;lyspooner that is one way to run it. there's no guarantee it'll be the way it's run. 423621;1387200840;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.05 = 0.15 BTC 423622;1387200863;lyspooner;so if i buy 1000 contracts at .0015 and the future expires at 10,000,000 eur on the final settlement day, and the short can't give me 10 billion euros, what do i get? 423623;1387200901;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 65 @ 0.00298 = 0.1937 BTC [+] 423624;1387200907;mircea_popescu;1000 contracts = 1000 euros 423625;1387200912;mircea_popescu;how can't he not give you 1000 euros ? 423626;1387200936;lyspooner;ah ok, i've been look at icbit too long 423627;1387200941;mircea_popescu;it rots the brain. 423628;1387200944;lyspooner;indeed 423629;1387200949;mircea_popescu;we do things right for a reason. 423630;1387200994;lyspooner;there's still something gross about the delivery specs being different from mm to mm 423631;1387201009;mircea_popescu;no there isn't. you've been looking at eurodollars too long. 423632;1387201014;mircea_popescu;embrace free market. 423633;1387201054;lyspooner;imagine i buy 100 contracts while there is a single market-maker, davout, because i am comfortable with his terms of delivery 423634;1387201059;mircea_popescu;anyway, the mm deposit could have been in either of the pair, but btc seems safer. 423635;1387201072;mircea_popescu;admittedly there could still exist an edge case where the mm splits and the holders book a loss 423636;1387201076;mircea_popescu;but it seems really edgy. 423637;1387201091;mircea_popescu;lyspooner certainly all changes are announced before the contract trades. this is sacred. 423638;1387201111;lyspooner;you couldn't allow a second market-maker 423639;1387201115;lyspooner;mid-trading 423640;1387201182;lyspooner;in the case where the mm splits or dies or forgets everything or worse, then the longs eat the crap 423641;1387201205;mircea_popescu;well suppose the mm gets 1mn contracts, by depositing 1560 btc. 423642;1387201208;mircea_popescu;he sells those, and then runs off 423643;1387201218;mircea_popescu;people get 0.00156 btc per held contract. 423644;1387201228;mircea_popescu;that COULD be worthless, obviously. and it'll have to be accounted for. 423645;1387201270;mircea_popescu;still, on one hand it's a much better liquidation event than either the best or the most recent non-mpex liquidation event, on one hand 423646;1387201282;mircea_popescu;and it's practically better than the alternative (hold 1mn euros which also COULD be worthless) 423647;1387201445;lyspooner;he would sell 1mn contracts, and in the case that bitcoins were worth less than 1 eur and he didn't hedge himself, he would owe 1mn EUR. he would run off and people would get near worthless bitcoins 423648;1387201463;mircea_popescu;it's a possibility. 423649;1387201483;lyspooner;make him post euros to you 423650;1387201485;mircea_popescu;of course, what he says is that he's not going directional, and it makes sense for him not to, if he knows his business, 423651;1387201501;mircea_popescu;and moreover he has the means to go delta neutral as he has ready access to a spot market. 423652;1387201522;mircea_popescu;lyspooner what, instead of btc ? that's nonsense. 423653;1387201550;lyspooner;nonsense in what way? it prevents the situation i just described 423654;1387201559;mircea_popescu;it creates the equivalent. 423655;1387201574;mircea_popescu;i tell you euro will turn worthless in the next ten years a degree of magnitude more often than btc will 423656;1387201576;mircea_popescu;at the very leasty. 423657;1387201591;lyspooner;shorts post euros, longs post bitcoins 423658;1387201624;mircea_popescu;i'm not a fucking exchange. i gotta pick one. 423659;1387201636;lyspooner;the good exchange will pick that format 423660;1387201645;lyspooner;until then you have recreated icbit's downside problems 423661;1387201652;lyspooner;with slightly better management 423662;1387201676;lyspooner;and less (?) default risk 423663;1387201687;mircea_popescu;nah. 423664;1387201706;mircea_popescu;looky, economy is built on trust and people doing their job. it's not really built on "making it impossible" for people to default. 423665;1387201772;mircea_popescu;making it obvious when someone defaults and making responsibility stick for defaults is good enough. 423666;1387201999;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15600 @ 0.00090117 = 14.0583 BTC [+] {3} 423667;1387201999;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 104 @ 0.00238994 = 0.2486 BTC [-] {2} 423668;1387202060;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 196 @ 0.00239751 = 0.4699 BTC [+] {3} 423669;1387202061;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.25275 = 0.5055 BTC [+] {2} 423670;1387202182;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2500 @ 0.00284938 = 7.1235 BTC [-] {11} 423671;1387202243;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.251 BTC [-] 423672;1387202487;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24716 @ 0.00090256 = 22.3077 BTC [+] {3} 423673;1387202670;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 30 @ 0.05 = 1.5 BTC {2} 423674;1387203341;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9043 @ 0.00090334 = 8.1689 BTC [+] {3} 423675;1387203374;mircea_popescu;;;bcstats 423676;1387203376;gribble;Current Blocks: 275236 | Current Difficulty: 9.08350862437022E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 276191 | Next Difficulty In: 955 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 1 hour, 54 minutes, and 53 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 1116079088.26 | Estimated Percent Change: 22.86872 423677;1387203402;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14773 @ 0.00090383 = 13.3523 BTC [+] {2} 423678;1387203829;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 500 @ 0.001 = 0.5 BTC 423679;1387204622;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.25 = 0.5 BTC [-] 423680;1387204744;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 25 @ 0.05 = 1.25 BTC 423681;1387204927;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00090354 = 11.0232 BTC [-] 423682;1387204988;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG.F2] 1 @ 0.50000001 BTC [+] 423683;1387205598;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12250 @ 0.00089975 = 11.0219 BTC [-] 423684;1387205927;ThickAsThieves;;;estimate 423685;1387205928;gribble;Next difficulty estimate | 1115862283.67 based on data since last change | 1184576457.35 based on data for last three days 423686;1387205932;ThickAsThieves;the dream is over 423687;1387206003;pankkake;:( 423688;1387206108;ThickAsThieves;only gavin can save me now 423689;1387206209;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00089951 = 4.4976 BTC [-] {2} 423690;1387206269;jurov;TAT you made out on idiffs like a pig, don't cry now :D 423691;1387206293;ThickAsThieves;hehe 423692;1387206314;ThickAsThieves;actually the amount lost here is probly very close to amount gained on idiffs 423693;1387207489;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 301 @ 0.002845 = 0.8563 BTC [-] {4} 423694;1387207550;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 415 @ 0.00279697 = 1.1607 BTC [-] {5} 423695;1387207733;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 49 @ 0.00265123 = 0.1299 BTC [-] {4} 423696;1387207977;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00089803 = 2.9635 BTC [-] 423697;1387208366;azoo_;https://twitter.com/Heineken/status/412582896038580224/photo/1 423698;1387208367;ozbot;Twitter / Heineken: Our vision of the future? Drink ... 423699;1387210112;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.255 BTC [+] 423700;1387210234;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 10 @ 0.04199999 = 0.42 BTC [+] {2} 423701;1387210417;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.25 = 1.25 BTC [-] {4} 423702;1387210844;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24700 @ 0.00090163 = 22.2703 BTC [+] {4} 423703;1387211022;taub_;hehe surprise guys let me raise the fees on my super active traedign platform to 0.3% 423704;1387211031;taub_;without giving you any warning 423705;1387211039;taub_;because i'm chinese 423706;1387211042;taub_;fucking btcchina 423707;1387211881;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.05 = 1 BTC 423708;1387212125;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5750 @ 0.0008986 = 5.167 BTC [-] 423709;1387212164;jcpham;;;seen mircea_popescu 423710;1387212164;gribble;mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 hours, 26 minutes, and 29 seconds ago: ;;bcstats 423711;1387212651;ThickAsThieves;already like 2PH added since last diffchange yeesh 423712;1387212674;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00089803 = 0.898 BTC [-] 423713;1387213223;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00089791 = 14.3666 BTC [-] {2} 423714;1387213528;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2291 @ 0.00089806 = 2.0575 BTC [+] 423715;1387213528;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 3 @ 0.042 = 0.126 BTC [+] 423716;1387213772;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 473 @ 0.05 = 23.65 BTC 423717;1387213894;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 12 @ 0.02489999 = 0.2988 BTC [+] {2} 423718;1387214870;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3359 @ 0.00090108 = 3.0267 BTC [+] 423719;1387215053;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC 423720;1387216164;mircea_popescu;taub_ better than 1% or w/e mtgox was doing 423721;1387216212;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13893 @ 0.00090047 = 12.5102 BTC [-] 423722;1387216232;mike_c;coinbase is 1% too, although they aren't really an exchange. 423723;1387217064;gesell;whats the reason for the current crash? 423724;1387217066;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5132 @ 0.00009079 = 0.4659 BTC [+] {4} 423725;1387217111;mircea_popescu;it's its party and it can crash if it wants to ? 423726;1387217127;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 14654 @ 0.0000871 = 1.2764 BTC [-] {5} 423727;1387217134;jcpham;you would crash too if it happened to you 423728;1387217169;mircea_popescu;Estimated1002357574 in 1167 blks 423729;1387217174;mircea_popescu;;;bcstats 423730;1387217177;gribble;Current Blocks: 275265 | Current Difficulty: 9.08350862437022E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 276191 | Next Difficulty In: 926 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 4 days, 20 hours, 21 minutes, and 21 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 1115703052.32 | Estimated Percent Change: 22.82732 423731;1387217191;mircea_popescu;lol bitcoincharts is a little behind the blox 423732;1387217210;pankkake;depends on how you compute it 423733;1387217229;pankkake;it's 1002 if nothing gets added 423734;1387217249;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10231 @ 0.00090013 = 9.2092 BTC [-] {2} 423735;1387217250;mircea_popescu;is it ? 423736;1387217255;mircea_popescu;i thought it'd be ~1050 even so 423737;1387217432;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.000896 = 5.2864 BTC [-] 423738;1387217494;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0499 = 0.499 BTC [-] 423739;1387217676;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4950 @ 0.00089763 = 4.4433 BTC [+] 423740;1387217920;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 500 @ 0.001 = 0.5 BTC 423741;1387217926;diametric;seems like the market is in full panic sell mode right now. 423742;1387218058;mike_c;buffet says this is a good time to be greedy 423743;1387218119;pankkake;is there a non-panic mode in bitcoin? 423744;1387218142;diametric;ahh also btc china has enacted a trading fee now 423745;1387218425;Duffer1;btcchina not allowing fiat withdraw (rumor) 423746;1387218586;mike_c;well, its posted on their site that they are requiring identification now 423747;1387218591;pankkake;well then it shouldn't crash at all 423748;1387218602;mike_c;heh, right. the gox effect. 423749;1387218743;mircea_popescu;aw shucks, not a billionaire again ? 423750;1387218791;mircea_popescu;btc y u so break my haert 423751;1387218820;mike_c;but now you get to enjoy the anticipation of being a billionaire again. 423752;1387218872;mircea_popescu;financial sex. 423753;1387218880;mircea_popescu;now you're in... now you're out. back in... back out... 423754;1387218920;diametric;just the tip 423755;1387218947;pizzaman1337;anyway... when does X.EUR start trading? 423756;1387218972;mircea_popescu;was supposed to start today. i guess davout is having some tech trouble ? 423757;1387218988;asciilifeform;new from the seekoority circus! http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/archives/00002647.html 423758;1387219007;mircea_popescu;wow f-secure, what a blast from the past 423759;1387219024;mircea_popescu;all i recall is this dos-age splash screen 423760;1387219384;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1150 @ 0.00089763 = 1.0323 BTC [+] 423761;1387219567;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 128 @ 0.00241498 = 0.3091 BTC [+] 423762;1387220055;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.00241609 = 0.4832 BTC [+] {3} 423763;1387220056;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.251 = 0.502 BTC [+] 423764;1387221214;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15400 @ 0.00089763 = 13.8235 BTC [+] 423765;1387221483;benkay;asciilifeform: i dreamt about a dataflow soup (using biocomputing elements) last night and then read your Alert Reader post this morning. 423766;1387221485;benkay;odd synchrony. 423767;1387221491;asciilifeform;haha 423768;1387221507;benkay;first i'd ever encountered the notion of dataflow stuff 423769;1387221617;benkay;i'm a near total neophyte to the execution of code and the things upon which they execute, so your grumpy old man attitude is fascinating to keep in mind while coming up to speed on the rest of the stack. 423770;1387221646;mircea_popescu;especially if you also keep in mind his age. 423771;1387221691;asciilifeform;phun phact: i've had people write to me: 'fscking keep over already, geezer'. 423772;1387221694;asciilifeform;*keel 423773;1387221714;asciilifeform;'can't build our shiny new world with yer kind around' 423774;1387221740;asciilifeform;that fan mail was in '09. 423775;1387221753;asciilifeform;i turned 30 2 wks ago... 423776;1387221754;benkay;your prose does have the vitriol of not-totally-bleached youth ;) 423777;1387221757;kakobreklaa;fun fact, clark moody refused to advertise my service cause it was suspeicious of it being scammy. he does have a mcxnow banner on site, still. 423778;1387221770;mircea_popescu;herp. 423779;1387221802;mike_c;tell him your code is C++, and therefore can't be a scam. 423780;1387221812;jcpham;mircea_popescu facedesk 423781;1387221817;Duffer1;hehe 423782;1387221824;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.0008976 = 5.3856 BTC [-] 423783;1387221825;jcpham;mcxnow scam all day 423784;1387221852;KRS|Gotyawallet;+1 423785;1387221867;mircea_popescu;what are we voting on ? 423786;1387221885;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 13 @ 0.07062697 = 0.9182 BTC [-] {8} 423787;1387221946;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2836 @ 0.000896 = 2.5411 BTC [-] 423788;1387221963;benkay;no doge on mcxnow 423789;1387221964;benkay;scam 423790;1387222399;dub;;;ud sharking 423791;1387222399;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sharking | To pull a girl's panties down in public, usually when she's wearing a short skirt. Very popular in Japan. 423792;1387222403;FabianB_;http://www.coindesk.com/china-bans-payment-companies-working-bitcoin-exchanges-sources-claim/ <-- has this been discussed already? am not through the backlog yet 423793;1387222419;mircea_popescu;FabianB_ in passing. not rly. 423794;1387222437;mircea_popescu;seems the usual overreaction. no such thing happened as far as anyone knows 423795;1387222445;mircea_popescu;but idiots love being overzealously silly. 423796;1387222445;Duffer1;couple of reddit rumor threads so far, that's all i've been able to find 423797;1387222464;FabianB_;they love loosing money by panicking it seems 423798;1387222707;FabianB_;the only third party 'payment provider' they mention in the article is Tenpay 423799;1387222729;FabianB_;didn't know any of them had anything directly to do with bitcoin 423800;1387222861;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22213 @ 0.00089553 = 19.8924 BTC [-] {4} 423801;1387223185;ThickAsThieves;they pulled similar shit with tencent rumors in the past 423802;1387223198;ThickAsThieves;like QQ would use btc or somthing 423803;1387223376;azoo;what about the just recent news about china banning withdrawals btc to fiat? 423804;1387223400;mircea_popescu;log's your friend 423805;1387223472;Duffer1;;;ident lino 423806;1387223473;gribble;Error: I am not seeing this user on IRC. If you want information about a registered gpg user, try the 'gpg info' command instead. 423807;1387223481;Duffer1;wtf.. 423808;1387223638;dub;;;gpg info lino 423809;1387223639;gribble;No such user registered. 423810;1387223659;Duffer1;ya i was lookin in wrong chan >.< 423811;1387223898;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5550 @ 0.0008976 = 4.9817 BTC [+] 423812;1387224140;FabianB_;http://bitbet.us/bet/611/bitcoin-value-will-drop-back-to-450-or/ <-- hehe, if they panick to that level 423813;1387224141;ozbot;BitBet - Bitcoin value will drop back to $450 or below before Christmas 423814;1387224142;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6250 @ 0.0008976 = 5.61 BTC [+] {2} 423815;1387224165;ThickAsThieves;panic abounds! 423816;1387224275;jurov;$avg 423817;1387224277;mpexbot;jurov: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. 423818;1387224304;jurov;;;ticker --average 423819;1387224304;gribble;(ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market |all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Mtgox. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure the code is (1 more message) 423820;1387224308;jurov;;;ticker --avg 423821;1387224309;gribble;816.33325 423822;1387224312;mircea_popescu;no love for jurov 423823;1387224324;jurov;.bait 423824;1387224325;ozbot;http://25.media.tumblr.com/4678fc7e2df00bd8dc4781e0ed288afc/tumblr_mp6aio31LD1s9olebo1_500.jpg 423825;1387224338;jurov;lol 423826;1387224358;pankkake;ozbot is being a smart ass 423827;1387224527;ThickAsThieves;ha! 423828;1387224651;sois;TAT, Did Friedcat respond on what the issue is with the direct transfer shares from last week? 423829;1387224691;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3000 @ 0.000094 = 0.282 BTC [+] 423830;1387224692;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13400 @ 0.00089763 = 12.0282 BTC [+] 423831;1387224727;the20year2;jurov: the prevailing theory is that the heart shape is specifically that 423832;1387224737;ThickAsThieves;sois, no he has not 423833;1387224749;ThickAsThieves;seem i can only get his attention once each week 423834;1387224753;ThickAsThieves;seems* 423835;1387224763;sois;Okay, guess nothing we can do but wait till next dividend or his response 423836;1387224767;sois;:- 423837;1387224777;ThickAsThieves;i suspect he'll just fix it and not say anything... 423838;1387224784;ThickAsThieves;either way i'll square up any divs 423839;1387224796;sois;ok, sounds good 423840;1387224844;sois;i sent him a proposal that would automate the process, i'm guessing he is just using excel and manually doing it which must be a hassle 423841;1387224956;jurov;o looky, http://mpex.co/?mpsic=X.EUR&r=1 is on 423842;1387224982;mircea_popescu;what's r=1 do 423843;1387224986;mircea_popescu;oh. 423844;1387224991;jurov;i'll add it on coinbr, but it needs scary warning you need b-c account to settle it 423845;1387224995;mircea_popescu;$depth x.eur 423846;1387224996;mpexbot;mircea_popescu: X.EUR Bids: ['2000 @ 0.0016129', '100 @ 0.00153846', '350 @ 0.00147'] 423847;1387224997;mpexbot;mircea_popescu: Asks: ['2000 @ 0.00227272'] 423848;1387225010;ThickAsThieves;http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/16/5216862/bitcoin-is-so-2013-dogecoin-is-new-crypto-currency-on-the-block 423849;1387225010;ozbot;Bitcoin is so 2013: Dogecoin is new crypto currency on the block | The Verge 423850;1387225012;ThickAsThieves;wtf 423851;1387225026;mircea_popescu;jurov well you don't HAVE to settle, you can just sell it back later 423852;1387225027;the20year2;wow, petamine already has 3437 btc 423853;1387225027;Duffer1;......................... 423854;1387225052;Duffer1;more than they'll ever actually mine 423855;1387225052;mircea_popescu;;;calc 1/0.0016129 423856;1387225052;gribble;620.001240002 423857;1387225059;mircea_popescu;;;calc 1/0.00227272 423858;1387225059;gribble;440.001408005 423859;1387225101;mircea_popescu;$depth O.USD.C110T 423860;1387225102;mpexbot;mircea_popescu: O.USD.C110T Bids: ['1000 @ 1e-08', '1000 @ 1e-08'] 423861;1387225103;mpexbot;mircea_popescu: Asks: ['1000 @ 0.00627926', '1000 @ 0.00627947', '5 @ 0.025'] 423862;1387225118;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6559 @ 0.00089573 = 5.8751 BTC [-] 423863;1387225148;the20year2;i'm sure 423864;1387225175;mircea_popescu;;;calc 0.00627926 * 110 + 110 423865;1387225175;gribble;110.6907186 423866;1387225199;mircea_popescu;uh no 423867;1387225220;jurov;;;bc,convert eur 423868;1387225220;gribble;1 BTC = 749.9 USD = 544.80235 eur 423869;1387225249;mircea_popescu;$depth O.USD.C065T 423870;1387225250;mpexbot;mircea_popescu: O.USD.C065T Bids: ['1000 @ 0.01591501', '1000 @ 0.01591501'] 423871;1387225251;mpexbot;mircea_popescu: Asks: ['1000 @ 0.02752279', '1000 @ 0.02752286'] 423872;1387225276;mircea_popescu;;;calc 0.01591501 / 0.02752279 - 0.0016129 / 0.00227272 423873;1387225277;gribble;-0.131429844848 423874;1387225290;mircea_popescu;whadda ya know. option spreads are narrow. 423875;1387225334;davout;ohai 423876;1387225358;davout;such future contract 423877;1387225362;davout;much spread 423878;1387225365;mircea_popescu;much spread 423879;1387225365;mircea_popescu;lol 423880;1387225370;jurov;wow 423881;1387225373;davout;wow 423882;1387225376;mircea_popescu;owo 423883;1387225423;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4370 @ 0.00089622 = 3.9165 BTC [+] {2} 423884;1387225428;kakobreklaa;much spread 423885;1387225440;mircea_popescu;small amount of late, kako :D 423886;1387225450;davout;large amount of 'a' 423887;1387225459;kakobreklaa;large amount of lag to somaila 423888;1387225477;mircea_popescu;such internweb. 423889;1387225581;mircea_popescu;Duffer1 the20year2 have 3.5k according tp what/who ? 423890;1387225597;the20year2;? 423891;1387225623;the20year2;according to havelock's chart 423892;1387225654;mircea_popescu;http://www.cryptx.com/peta-mine/ < this thing ? 423893;1387225655;ozbot;PETA-MINE | CryptX 423894;1387225757;Duffer1;wow they really have raised 3400 btc 423895;1387225763;Duffer1;https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=PETA 423896;1387225799;ThickAsThieves;hard to know 423897;1387225805;ThickAsThieves;even harder to care 423898;1387225824;Duffer1;i can't imagine that will ever rio 423899;1387225827;Duffer1;roi 423900;1387225837;mircea_popescu;"CryptX has a contract with Cointerra" 423901;1387225841;mircea_popescu;where's the cxontract 423902;1387225845;the20year2;course not 423903;1387225847;mircea_popescu;these people never heard of signatures etc ? 423904;1387225858;the20year2;And it's a sweet deal for the mining company......the cost to provide those GH goes down every day 423905;1387225879;the20year2;I always laugh at how these companies are set up, i've gone overboard with mine, and no one cares 423906;1387225902;mircea_popescu;anyway, pmb version 50. why even. 423907;1387225937;Duffer1;worse than a pmb 423908;1387225944;Duffer1;only 65% equity on offer 423909;1387225959;Duffer1;those assholes have gone overboard with that one 423910;1387225959;the20year2;they retain 65% or selling 65? 423911;1387225972;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19800 @ 0.00090107 = 17.8412 BTC [+] {2} 423912;1387225982;Duffer1;they retain 35% of divs because.. 423913;1387225982;the20year2;If you were the issuer , why not? Investors typically don't read the T &C , and if they do, few understand it 423914;1387226000;mircea_popescu;the20year2 and then you list the crap and get called a scam and don't understand why. 423915;1387226004;the20year2;I retain 35% of my divs too, but then I ponied up $30k+ into the fund :D 423916;1387226005;mircea_popescu;who was asking me earlier ? 423917;1387226024;the20year2;Who cares if they get called a scam? They've already pocketed 2.8m in investments 423918;1387226046;the20year2;makes me wish i'd of asked for 5k bitcoins instead of the 700 423919;1387226070;Duffer1;what's your project the20? 423920;1387226081;the20year2;buying income producing real estate with bitcoins 423921;1387226089;Duffer1;oohh right 423922;1387226090;mircea_popescu;stealing 2.8mn from idiots does not make the stolen funds investments. 423923;1387226113;the20year2;is it theft if they willingly hand it over? 423924;1387226138;Duffer1;fleecing the ignorant is little better than theft imo 423925;1387226144;ThickAsThieves;... 423926;1387226146;mircea_popescu;it's not a business. 423927;1387226150;mircea_popescu;whatever it is. 423928;1387226160;Vexual;courts oft call it theft 423929;1387226176;Duffer1;it's not intended to benefit the investor so i'd call that a scam, maybe not "theft" 423930;1387226203;ThickAsThieves;last i checked, taking candy from babies wasn't good for the rep 423931;1387226217;the20year2;*Hopefully* the end result will be smarter investors 423932;1387226224;mircea_popescu;it usually is. 423933;1387226240;ThickAsThieves;it's a tsunami of dumb tho 423934;1387226242;Duffer1;smarter, broke, investors hehe 423935;1387226244;ThickAsThieves;good luck 423936;1387226258;deadweasel;knowledge is valuable :) 423937;1387226264;mircea_popescu;;;genrate 240000000 423938;1387226265;gribble;The expected generation output, at 240000000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 908350862.437, is 132.875487804 BTC per day and 5.5364786585 BTC per hour. 423939;1387226279;mircea_popescu;did i get the 0s right ? 423940;1387226323;mircea_popescu;240 th they say they're deploying, selling the lot for 50k btc. 423941;1387226332;ThickAsThieves;;;nethash 423942;1387226333;gribble;8658640.6558 423943;1387226338;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11330 @ 0.00089857 = 10.1808 BTC [-] 423944;1387226342;the20year2;how long to set up the 240th? 423945;1387226342;mircea_popescu;will hit even in 300 days of constant difficulty. also known as never. 423946;1387226352;mircea_popescu;the20year2 two weeks from january. 423947;1387226352;the20year2;nice 423948;1387226365;the20year2;I wonder what kind of facility they're in 423949;1387226381;the20year2;My brother's looking at local warehouses/factories to deploy in, and the cost for setup and time involved is immense 423950;1387226393;the20year2;It's not like you can just find a datacenter and say "hey let me put my stuff in there" 423951;1387226395;mircea_popescu;well savage family has some free space. 423952;1387226425;mircea_popescu;Bitmine ever deliver anything so far ? 423953;1387226447;Duffer1;a bunch of spam mail to my inbox but that's about it 423954;1387226473;Duffer1;no i'm not sure if they've actually shipped though 423955;1387226473;mircea_popescu;so basically this is a 25% actual rigs (from cointerra) and 75% vaporware. 423956;1387226477;mircea_popescu;deal gets better and better. 423957;1387226486;the20year2;Nice 423958;1387226495;ThickAsThieves;sounds a lot like ActM 423959;1387226497;mircea_popescu;who's behind this ? 423960;1387226501;mircea_popescu;yeah, it does. 423961;1387226516;mircea_popescu;and the mo is quite similar, too. 423962;1387226546;mircea_popescu;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=215431.0 423963;1387226554;ozbot;Official Avalon mining rig clones thread from bitmine.ch (NOW SHIPPING) 423964;1387226559;mircea_popescu;some guy, giorgiomassa 423965;1387226567;mircea_popescu;which is an italian name. making avalon clones. 423966;1387226571;mircea_popescu;now how does he do that ? 423967;1387226579;the20year2;coinlab money? 423968;1387226645;ThickAsThieves;he used the ghosted Avalon chips 423969;1387226648;ThickAsThieves;uses* 423970;1387226660;ThickAsThieves;(not srs) 423971;1387226690;mircea_popescu;is it this guy ? http://www.massarotto.com/ 423972;1387226754;ThickAsThieves;dunno 423973;1387226756;mircea_popescu;ok so basically they mostly delivered an avalon clone on a 9 month schedule, and announced a 28nm process on a 3 month schedule late sept. 423974;1387226784;mircea_popescu;so maybe they deliver, in the summer. 423975;1387226801;ThickAsThieves;like bfl monarchs 423976;1387226820;ThickAsThieves;i still have my email spam from them 423977;1387226826;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00089815 = 3.413 BTC [-] 423978;1387226827;ThickAsThieves;promising xmas delivery 423979;1387226836;mircea_popescu;xmas delivery is a thing. 423980;1387226839;mircea_popescu;"Even with weights, allowing a diff bet to be open to bets till so close to the resolution date, enormously reduces the incentive to bet until it is an obvious call and thus limits the size of the bets to a few eager early beters plus roughly double the late skimmers. No money in between an thus smaller overall rollers." 423981;1387226842;mircea_popescu;does this guy have a point ? 423982;1387226888;ThickAsThieves;yes 423983;1387226894;jurov;kinda yes 423984;1387226905;mircea_popescu;so then what dio you do, have all these bets you can't bet on ? 423985;1387226912;mircea_popescu;cause they closed last week and resolve in a month ? 423986;1387226937;ThickAsThieves;more curvy weight loss 423987;1387226945;jurov;no, all the bets i can bet, but have weight like 50k or 30k 423988;1387226957;mircea_popescu;jurov huh ? 423989;1387226973;kakobrekla;[21:49:25] more curvy weight loss 423990;1387226976;jurov;yes, updating the curve could help 423991;1387226979;kakobrekla;you need more fat for more cuvers you know 423992;1387226983;kakobrekla;curves 423993;1387226991;Vexual;.bait 423994;1387226992;ozbot;http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdhd6p65yj1qdxglyo1_1280.jpg 423995;1387226996;ThickAsThieves;you know what i mean tho? 423996;1387227006;ThickAsThieves;weight needs to drop off harder 423997;1387227006;kakobrekla;you like fat women? 423998;1387227009;kakobrekla;ah 423999;1387227015;ThickAsThieves;the curve 424000;1387227020;mike_c;not sure that's any different than just closing early 424001;1387227030;ThickAsThieves;it let speople bet 424002;1387227052;mircea_popescu;not only what mike_c said, but also... then how do you specify the curve. 424003;1387227058;Vexual;risk and reward 424004;1387227064;ThickAsThieves;of course then you run into the other issue of letting people make losing winning bers 424005;1387227075;ThickAsThieves;bets* 424006;1387227081;mircea_popescu;yeah. 424007;1387227095;ThickAsThieves;what if weight was 'spent' 424008;1387227140;mircea_popescu;http://bitbet.us/bet/619/bitcoin-difficulty-at-or-above-2b-before-feb/ 424009;1387227141;ozbot;BitBet - Bitcoin difficulty at or above 2B before Feb 2014 424010;1387227147;mircea_popescu;i can't even follow the guy's idea 424011;1387227157;mircea_popescu;what has materially changed in that bet since a month ago ? 424012;1387227159;mircea_popescu;it's still pretty wild. 424013;1387227271;jurov;hm, there should exist some curve how the prediction accuracy increases over time for natural phenomena 424014;1387227274;ThickAsThieves;if they keep adding PHs every week that bet... 424015;1387227279;jurov;and weight would be inverse of it 424016;1387227294;jurov;and i strongly dount that curve is linear 424017;1387227307;ThickAsThieves;pretty good assumption 424018;1387227361;mike_c;i'm warming up to the 'spend weight' idea 424019;1387227369;mircea_popescu;jurov just do a historical average of all science ? 424020;1387227373;jurov;can't black-scholes be applied? 424021;1387227375;mircea_popescu;mike_c i dunno what it'd be 424022;1387227383;mircea_popescu;explain it ? 424023;1387227384;ThickAsThieves;something like, 424024;1387227386;mike_c;it puts something of a cap on the bets, but whatever. 424025;1387227396;mike_c;like, you bet 50btc, the weight drops 50k 424026;1387227399;ThickAsThieves;you start with 100,000 weight 424027;1387227402;Vexual;science? is 100% science 424028;1387227418;mircea_popescu;jurov a nonlinear curve would, of course, have to somehow be communicated to the bettors, which may take 16 months of scam accusations in the btctalk. 424029;1387227420;ThickAsThieves;then each bet get 10% of that weight, but new bet's weight is offset 424030;1387227425;ThickAsThieves;by the amount of coin betted 424031;1387227436;ThickAsThieves;to avoid losing winners 424032;1387227451;ThickAsThieves;so first bettor get 10,000 weight 424033;1387227452;mircea_popescu;i can follow mike_c proposal but not yours, and moreover they seem quite distinct 424034;1387227458;ThickAsThieves;next gets 9000 weight or whatever 424035;1387227460;jurov;http://weather.mailasail.com/w/uploads/Franks-Weather/Skill-graph.jpg this is for weather forecasts 424036;1387227477;ThickAsThieves;i honestly dont havce it thought thru 424037;1387227486;mircea_popescu;jurov interesting... 424038;1387227490;mike_c;if you "buy" weight, it encourages you to 1) wait for more info, but 2) get in before someone else gets all the good weight 424039;1387227492;jurov;source: http://weather.mailasail.com/Franks-Weather/Forecast-Accuracy-Limitations 424040;1387227511;ThickAsThieves;mike_c it's already the case 424041;1387227517;mike_c;not really 424042;1387227519;mircea_popescu;mike_c how do you anchor it ? why 50k and not 492 ? 424043;1387227522;ThickAsThieves;bet early does get you better weight 424044;1387227528;ThickAsThieves;just the curve is slowwww 424045;1387227539;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves basically he proposes to not use a time function, but a bet function 424046;1387227541;mike_c;only marginally. but if you auction off weight, it changes the dynamic a lot 424047;1387227541;mircea_popescu;likle the blockchain 424048;1387227553;ThickAsThieves;ah i see 424049;1387227556;ThickAsThieves;thats totally diff 424050;1387227558;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5255 @ 0.00089815 = 4.7198 BTC [-] 424051;1387227575;ThickAsThieves;starting to sound like that other site 424052;1387227583;mircea_popescu;mike_c how is your idea different from just splitting the pool according to a polynomial (bet sum) ? 424053;1387227586;ThickAsThieves;where you can sell your bet position 424054;1387227646;mike_c;thinking it through. i believe it is different because the guy who bets the first 10btc gets more than the guy who bets the last 10btc 424055;1387227662;mircea_popescu;yes, but his more is a function of the total bet. 424056;1387227697;mircea_popescu;or w/e, model this for me 424057;1387227705;mircea_popescu;mebbe i only think i got what you mean 424058;1387227705;mike_c;yeah, i'll think it through. 424059;1387227863;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16600 @ 0.00090127 = 14.9611 BTC [+] 424060;1387227886;Vexual;you're only talking about difficulty bets? 424061;1387227904;mircea_popescu;Vexual it's where people seem to think they do a lot better at predicting outcomes as time goes by 424062;1387227936;ThickAsThieves;like that minimum wage one 424063;1387227939;ThickAsThieves;it;s old but 424064;1387227961;ThickAsThieves;if it's not on the agenda for the gov by a certain date 424065;1387227967;ThickAsThieves;you know it aint gona happen 424066;1387227973;mircea_popescu;i mean to be clear, im not proposing linear timeweight is the absolutely correct solution. it's obviously wrong, life isn't linear. 424067;1387227984;mircea_popescu;however, it may be the best approximation, depending how the problem is actually defined 424068;1387227991;ThickAsThieves;what if it's a fixed amount of weight that can be given, then the 'price' of weight is determined by the amount of coins bet prior. 424069;1387228000;mircea_popescu;the who ? 424070;1387228035;mircea_popescu;jurov what's that curve even, its not a sine section. 424071;1387228047;Vexual;a curve from the difficulty estimate? 424072;1387228059;ThickAsThieves;no 424073;1387228064;mircea_popescu;he linked some stuff above from weather prediction 424074;1387228089;Vexual;perhaps the weather curve is plotted from data 424075;1387228116;mircea_popescu;prolly 424076;1387228124;ThickAsThieves;any tapering over time would be better than linear 424077;1387228172;Vexual;add some function to the diff estimate to make a sexy curve 424078;1387228176;jurov;can't find any supporting maths, looks like fully empirical 424079;1387228183;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves that can't be true. 424080;1387228215;ThickAsThieves;i mean that in the starting from linear sense, not saying an extreme taper would be better 424081;1387228249;mircea_popescu;"any woman would be better than the girl next door. except, you know, a really annoying pornstar. or a quadriplegic. or a butch lesbian." 424082;1387228273;ThickAsThieves;like said, not meant to be taken to extremes 424083;1387228278;ThickAsThieves;meant to move the meter 424084;1387228282;Vexual;u in it for the money or in it for the love? 424085;1387228315;ThickAsThieves;like 1 bj per year is better than zero 424086;1387228321;ThickAsThieves;but 1000 is maybe too much 424087;1387228324;mircea_popescu;mike_c one major problem of the not-time approach is, what if right before your 10btc bet makes it, someone puts in a 1k btc bet. 424088;1387228350;mircea_popescu;you basically now live in a cloudy soup of "i can't fucking know wjhat i'm betting on" 424089;1387228357;jurov;1+cos(x) in the 0,pi interval? but yes, needs some modelling what would be the effect 424090;1387228381;mircea_popescu;jurov looks too un-sine to be a sine imo. 424091;1387228391;jurov;insinity 424092;1387228394;mircea_popescu;ianal. 424093;1387228395;mircea_popescu;lol 424094;1387228461;jurov;just throw weierstrass function in 424095;1387228496;jurov;epic outrage 424096;1387228503;mircea_popescu;what can math possibly hurt. 424097;1387228553;mircea_popescu;blancmange. moar like tits. 424098;1387228563;mike_c;mircea_popescu: yeah, i was thinking about that. but its not like its not a cloudy soup right now. 424099;1387228576;jurov;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blancmange_curve is moar like tits 424100;1387228576;ozbot;Blancmange curve - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 424101;1387228580;mircea_popescu;but at least you know what weight you get. 424102;1387228610;Vexual;popescu curve 424103;1387228610;mike_c;which is still only a piece of it. because if someone drops that 1k bet down on my side my odds still tank 424104;1387228630;mircea_popescu;but not more than his. 424105;1387228639;mircea_popescu;it doesn't give him cake and you penis. 424106;1387228656;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.00090128 = 5.9484 BTC [+] {2} 424107;1387228680;mike_c;yes. not unsolvable though. 424108;1387228691;mircea_popescu;what are you, an engineer ? 424109;1387228695;mike_c;sometimes 424110;1387228700;ThickAsThieves;what if you just offer 4 curve pictures when making bet, maybe in a Edit Curve button, one tapers early, one late, one linear, one like Franks Weather 424111;1387228713;ThickAsThieves;then you can overlay the curve chosen on the graph pic for each bet 424112;1387228715;ThickAsThieves;or sumth 424113;1387228717;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.257 BTC [+] 424114;1387228718;mike_c;steep curves late are the same as early closing imo 424115;1387228728;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves this discussion mostly started because users can't be arsed to use the fine tuning implem,ents already available 424116;1387228743;mircea_popescu;not like i won't let you make a bet that expires early or that ends with w/e weight etc 424117;1387228744;asciilifeform;next thing we know, bitbet gets a scripting language, and we're playing 'Core Wars.' 424118;1387228746;ThickAsThieves;then mods can decide curve? 424119;1387228758;mircea_popescu;mno ? 424120;1387228764;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform somethin' like that. 424121;1387228793;Vexual;you'll end up with a flat line 424122;1387228799;asciilifeform;what ever happened to the fellow who was going to offer 'pwn by box for 10 btc?' 424123;1387228804;asciilifeform;*my 424124;1387228979;mircea_popescu;prolly something unfortunate 424125;1387229014;asciilifeform;afaik the offer never went live 424126;1387229053;asciilifeform;he was offering 'get a root account, and see if you can get past my fancy memory partitioner plugin' 424127;1387229066;mircea_popescu;was it jurov ? 424128;1387229074;asciilifeform;no, some random face 424129;1387229078;jurov;nope, i dont give root :) 424130;1387229111;asciilifeform;pwn contests for btc prize are an underdeveloped field 424131;1387229124;Vexual;lol 424132;1387229144;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00243999 = 0.244 BTC [+] 424133;1387229145;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.257 BTC [+] 424134;1387229165;asciilifeform;if the arena keeper is reputable, people will play 424135;1387229176;asciilifeform;otherwise nobody cares to part with an 0day for a prize that may or may not exist. 424136;1387229186;mircea_popescu;this is a point 424137;1387229194;mircea_popescu;i guess roua's accident recently left a hole. 424138;1387229200;dub;s.pwn? 424139;1387229209;mircea_popescu;besides, btc makes us about 5000x as powerful as fiat ever was 424140;1387229217;mircea_popescu;what's apple gonna do, come here and bitch ? 424141;1387229222;dub;>9000x tbh 424142;1387229241;mircea_popescu;myeah 424143;1387229265;mircea_popescu;im kinda looking forward to the day when the old world starts actually paying lawyers to troll irc. 424144;1387229280;mircea_popescu;i can be all, ha, i was doing this in 2012 newbs. 424145;1387229409;asciilifeform;there's no possible substitute for arena reputation, though; with the possible exception of holding the contest inside a faraday cage, with the target machine signing messages with its addr key on demand. 424146;1387229501;asciilifeform;perhaps the game is not being played formally because 95% of the btc community is already playing it informally 424147;1387229507;asciilifeform;without necessarily intending to. 424148;1387229539;mircea_popescu;lol 424149;1387229552;mircea_popescu;i don't think there's possible substitution for reputation generally. 424150;1387229567;asciilifeform;0day + lamer -> crying lamer, 0 probably stays 0; 0day + arena -> possibly nothing, 0 is now 1+ 424151;1387229586;mircea_popescu;this was "news" in 200 bc too. i dunno why it's so counterintuitive 424152;1387229613;asciilifeform;'you may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you.' 424153;1387229679;Vexual;can we have drones with cameras reading keystrokes in the arena? 424154;1387229723;asciilifeform;Vexual: the arena in question may not be a literal one; the original issue was how to prove that the target actually contains a prize. 424155;1387229765;asciilifeform;the 'piata', if you will. 424156;1387229878;Vexual;you propose to make it more sporting by making it less sporting 424157;1387229909;Vexual;but legal 424158;1387229940;asciilifeform;it's a standard 'trading in the desert' situation 424159;1387229947;asciilifeform;player may (or may not) have 0day 424160;1387229954;asciilifeform;arena may (or may not) have prize. 424161;1387229961;asciilifeform;player, by playing, necessarily reveals his hand. 424162;1387229970;asciilifeform;how to motivate him 424163;1387230219;BingoBoingo;http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/H81%20Pro%20BTC/ 424164;1387230220;ozbot;ASRock > H81 Pro BTC 424165;1387230233;BingoBoingo;Awfully late to the party with this... 424166;1387230259;Vexual;i still prefer the physical areana with drones, paid for by discorvey channel 424167;1387230265;kakobrekla;lol wtf pro btc 424168;1387230284;asciilifeform;'Just plug in the USB Key and let your computer log in to windows automatically!' 424169;1387230312;Vexual;then sell your 0 days to market with the advertising 424170;1387230359;asciilifeform;no one has yet invented a means whereby unknowns can sell secrets to unknowns. 424171;1387230360;kakobrekla;omg wtf the mobo has dehumidifier 424172;1387230394;Vexual;no thats the beauty of it, by removing that special part of the whole game, you reintroduce it again 424173;1387230455;asciilifeform;Vexual: where do you intend to find the fools who will drop their 0day panties in public? 424174;1387230495;asciilifeform;anyone who wants to show off can do this already simply by using the weapon 'in anger' the usual way. 424175;1387230507;mike_c;this is really good: 424176;1387230508;mike_c;http://dimacs.rutgers.edu/Workshops/Markets/pennock.pdf 424177;1387230522;BingoBoingo;kakobrekla: I take that to mean they'll randomly power up the computer when you aren't using to to see if you found any bitcoins yet. 424178;1387230533;mike_c;"A Dynamic Pari-Mutuel Market for Hedging, Wagering, and Information Aggregation" 424179;1387230534;kakobrekla;:)) 424180;1387230543;Vexual;thats what i mean ascii, the area is fake 424181;1387230561;asciilifeform;planet has enough fake things 424182;1387230570;asciilifeform;how about something real for a twist. 424183;1387230630;mircea_popescu;mike_c did the academia folks invent something again ? 424184;1387230668;mike_c;it's got some good proposals for how to do it. i'm working on the tl;dr. 424185;1387230703;mircea_popescu;i like this guy. 424186;1387230731;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7850 @ 0.00090279 = 7.0869 BTC [+] {2} 424187;1387230792;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9450 @ 0.00090295 = 8.5329 BTC [+] {2} 424188;1387230981;Vexual;j Applied Meteorology 424189;1387231067;asciilifeform;if we're doing papers, try this on for size: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/hashlife.pdf 424190;1387231081;asciilifeform;(a bit of a hog, scanned it personally from the original print) 424191;1387231094;asciilifeform;anyone who can figure out how to apply it to sha2 wins... +inf. 424192;1387231103;mike_c;how could i possibly open a pdf from someone i know could hack the shit out of me if he wanted to? 424193;1387231113;asciilifeform;how do you breathe air. 424194;1387231124;mike_c;carefully? 424195;1387231127;mircea_popescu;lol 424196;1387231128;asciilifeform;somebody could've mixed some strange in. 424197;1387231137;mircea_popescu;pdfs need to die already 424198;1387231162;Duffer1;preach it brother 424199;1387231170;asciilifeform;if jpeg came in multi-page variant, i'd have jpeg. 424200;1387231203;asciilifeform;tldr version: exponential speedup for cellular automata algos 424201;1387231221;asciilifeform;phys. d. 1984. 75-80 424202;1387231244;asciilifeform;(bill gosper) 424203;1387231279;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9414 @ 0.00090012 = 8.4737 BTC [-] {2} 424204;1387231282;asciilifeform;basic idea is to 'compress' time and space simultaneously 424205;1387231289;asciilifeform;(sounds weird, but it wurks) 424206;1387231385;sundun_;hi 424207;1387231407;ll;open it in a vm 424208;1387231419;ll;or use pdf2jpg.com or similar 424209;1387231447;kakobrekla;NSA also does this for you 424210;1387231659;pankkake;multipage jpeg is called tar :) 424211;1387231722;BingoBoingo;Whatever is wrong with TeX for passing documents? 424212;1387231732;asciilifeform;doc in question is a scan 424213;1387231738;asciilifeform;from dead tree. 424214;1387231759;kakobrekla;ocr? 424215;1387231769;asciilifeform;with pictures. 424216;1387231786;mircea_popescu;we need a better format. 424217;1387231789;kakobrekla;dam pictures. 424218;1387231796;kakobrekla;i like png better. 424219;1387231805;pankkake;png scans are HUGE 424220;1387231815;kakobrekla;yes cause scans sucks 424221;1387231824;pankkake;unless you do black and white with high contrast filter 424222;1387231829;kakobrekla;mhm 424223;1387231847;asciilifeform;ok lazy kids http://loper-os.nfshost.com/pub/hl/hl.html 424224;1387231886;mike_c;ok.. i think i understand enough to design bitbet v2. 424225;1387231903;pankkake;when is the ipo? 424226;1387231916;mike_c;i'll ask havelock. probably tomorrow. 424227;1387231966;mike_c;basically you buy shares in the outcome (this is not tradesports). share price is based on the current proportion of bets. so buying one share costs 0.1, but buying two shares cost 0.22, etc. 424228;1387231986;asciilifeform;(should be http://www.loper-os.org/pub/hl/hl.html for permalink) 424229;1387231999;mike_c;price of shares will be driven to whatever probability is currently expected. 424230;1387232005;mike_c;so early bettors get better prices 424231;1387232021;mike_c;and when an event is basically decided, share prices go through the roof on that side 424232;1387232027;asciilifeform;is this predicated on identity costing >0 ? 424233;1387232032;mike_c;no 424234;1387232039;asciilifeform;because what's to stop 1000 socks for buying 1000 shares for 0.1 each 424235;1387232050;mike_c;can't be done. it's like an order book 424236;1387232068;mike_c;but the order book is filled with the algorithmically determined prices 424237;1387232072;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00090097 = 9.0097 BTC [+] 424238;1387232072;mike_c;so everyone knows its fair 424239;1387232122;asciilifeform;so share 1 is sold for 0.1. share 2 is sold, to an apparently different buyer for, ? 424240;1387232130;mike_c;0.11 424241;1387232137;mike_c;bettor would basically put in a limit order 424242;1387232151;asciilifeform;ok 424243;1387232166;Vexual;then it starts sounding like something else 424244;1387232175;mike_c;but not, because it's not just an open market 424245;1387232184;mike_c;and there is no market-maker 424246;1387232197;mike_c;except, there is always buy-liquidity from the opposing side 424247;1387232220;mike_c;it does, however, allow you to sell your shares if you want 424248;1387232235;Vexual;nat a bet 424249;1387232244;mike_c;huh? 424250;1387232255;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 754 @ 0.00241562 = 1.8214 BTC [-] {4} 424251;1387232341;mike_c;if there is sufficient interest from people i can work up a simulation. 424252;1387232432;mike_c;the nice thing about is that you don't need a time weight. early bettors get better odds, and it will naturally get squeezed off when the market knows the event is decided. 424253;1387232438;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00090317 = 6.2319 BTC [+] 424254;1387232499;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 5 @ 0.09304399 = 0.4652 BTC [+] {5} 424255;1387232514;mircea_popescu;so let's run through this. bet is gribble's coin toss comes out heads. 424256;1387232516;mircea_popescu;what now ? 424257;1387232528;Vexual;do 3 in a row mircea 424258;1387232536;mircea_popescu;nah, one's enough for this 424259;1387232543;mike_c;well, i think parimutuel wagering on mathematical things is silly :) 424260;1387232549;mircea_popescu;that aside 424261;1387232550;pankkake;is gribble provably fair? 424262;1387232553;mircea_popescu;it dun matter what the bet is. 424263;1387232556;mike_c;let's say the democrats when the next US pres election 424264;1387232560;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 5 @ 0.09975999 = 0.4988 BTC [+] {4} 424265;1387232565;mircea_popescu;so what do i do now ? 424266;1387232570;mike_c;BB seeds with 0.6, 0.4 424267;1387232575;mircea_popescu;ok 424268;1387232590;mircea_popescu;i think irl bitbet seeds more like .3 .7 bu anyway 424269;1387232602;mike_c;now there will be a share price for each one (there are a variety of pricing functions) to buy a share in each outcome 424270;1387232609;mike_c;but that share price is an integral 424271;1387232611;mircea_popescu;wait, what ? 424272;1387232625;mircea_popescu;i got 10 btc on the dems right here. i send it to your site. what happens ? 424273;1387232637;mike_c;you get x shares of 'dems winning' 424274;1387232642;mircea_popescu;"x" ? 424275;1387232644;mircea_popescu;scam. 424276;1387232648;mike_c;no, it's all math 424277;1387232652;mike_c;no scam 424278;1387232658;mircea_popescu;all math is scam. so what's your x on my 10 btc ? 424279;1387232682;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 11113 @ 0.00009487 = 1.0543 BTC [+] {2} 424280;1387232695;mike_c;you will be able to see when you place your bet. it will say "1 share: 0.1 btc, 1 more share: 0.2 btc, 1 more share: 0.5 btc" 424281;1387232726;mircea_popescu;... 424282;1387232732;Duffer1;it sounds like you're trying to dumb it down for noobs by overcomplicating it 424283;1387232749;Duffer1;it = weighting 424284;1387232750;mircea_popescu;so if i spend 10 btc i get a number of shares you can't specify. wjhat happens next ? 424285;1387232752;mike_c;it's basically an algorithmically generated order book for shares in 'dems win' 424286;1387232763;mike_c;i can specify, just can't do the integral off the top of my head. 424287;1387232764;mircea_popescu;algorithmically generated order books aren't used irl 424288;1387232767;mircea_popescu;guess why. 424289;1387232778;mike_c;um. 424290;1387232780;mike_c;i give up. 424291;1387232780;mircea_popescu;mike_c so guess dood. weren't you an engineer ? 424292;1387232803;Vexual;u can have an algo gen weighting curve tho, dont even need to update faq 424293;1387232803;mircea_popescu;that was quick ;/ 424294;1387232804;mike_c;in my mind it works. i may not be explaining correctly 424295;1387232825;mircea_popescu;just guess the value of the integral, it won't kill you .not like it's a binding contract or anything 424296;1387232830;mircea_popescu;just a little numerical analysis 424297;1387232846;mike_c;ok, lemme figure it. 424298;1387232859;mircea_popescu;now he goes all taylor on it i bet 424299;1387232868;mircea_popescu;(1st share 1 btc, 2nd share 1.3 btc etc ftr) 424300;1387232883;mike_c;if i guess the bridge will fall down when you drive over it. 424301;1387232888;mircea_popescu;so ? 424302;1387232902;mircea_popescu;we're trying to see how that'd go atm 424303;1387232945;mike_c;m = M1[e^(n\n2) - 1] 424304;1387232952;mike_c;gimme a sec :) 424305;1387232962;mircea_popescu;e ? 424306;1387232966;mircea_popescu;why not pi. 424307;1387232967;mike_c;yes 424308;1387232987;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00239999 = 0.24 BTC [-] 424309;1387233128;sbp;Bill Gosper's paper is also at https://www.lri.fr/~filliatr/m1/gol/gosper-84.pdf 424310;1387233149;sbp;some C code here, haven't tried it: http://dotat.at/prog/life/hashlife.c 424311;1387233219;mircea_popescu;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=352830.0 << check out the paperwork that went into a 424312;1387233221;ozbot;Fudda'd by muddafudda 424313;1387233222;mircea_popescu;5 ltc dispute 424314;1387233229;mircea_popescu;now we know it's the end of the world. 424315;1387233254;mike_c;ok ok 424316;1387233271;mike_c;wag: you would get about as many shares as 0.7 has (if 0.7 was on dems) 424317;1387233301;mike_c;so coming in and dropping 10btc on a bet with only 0.3 on the other side, not so great. 424318;1387233312;mike_c;just like bbv1 424319;1387233369;mircea_popescu;bbv1 is neutral on thsi score. if someone buys the other side later it lifts you up 424320;1387233377;mircea_popescu;does your thing lift me up ? 424321;1387233393;mike_c;as would this. you are buying shares in dems. later, money comes in on reps, your intrinsic share value goes up 424322;1387233418;mircea_popescu;aite, so let's try it. since you're somehow decided it must be 0.1s for some reason, i put 0.5 on dems. what's that do ? 424323;1387233449;mike_c;you get half as many as the 0.7 has 424324;1387233473;mircea_popescu;so i get 5, say. 424325;1387233481;mike_c;um, 3.5 to his 7, yes 424326;1387233486;mircea_popescu;ok. now, i come and put 0.7 on dems. what's this do ? 424327;1387233517;mike_c;you get like 1 share 424328;1387233532;mircea_popescu;aite. so dems side is now 3 (opresumably) + 3.5 + .95 shares 424329;1387233536;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 13 @ 0.07012307 = 0.9116 BTC [-] {5} 424330;1387233542;mircea_popescu;and .3 + .5 + .7 = 1.5 btc 424331;1387233543;mircea_popescu;right ? 424332;1387233607;mike_c;er, heres my math: shares: (7 + 3.5 + 1) = 11.5 shares (0.7 + 0.5 + 0.7) = 1.9 btc on dems 424333;1387233636;mircea_popescu;o o ok i see. i mixed the .3 and .7 aite 424334;1387233647;mircea_popescu;so now obama comes and dumps 10 btc on reps. cause he's hedging. 424335;1387233652;mircea_popescu;how many shares does this buy him ? 424336;1387233865;mike_c;~40 424337;1387233874;mike_c;with BB having seeded 3 shares 424338;1387233894;mircea_popescu;aite. 424339;1387233899;mircea_popescu;now, the reps lose, obviously. 424340;1387233903;mircea_popescu;how do you split the 10.3 ? 424341;1387233918;mike_c;company decision. it can be done so that all the money is split, or only the losers money. 424342;1387233942;mike_c;er, so you said the losers 424343;1387234035;mike_c;0.7 early -> 6.26 0.5 mid -> 3.13 0.7 late -> 0.9 424344;1387234115;mircea_popescu;even if these could be within five minutes of each other ? 424345;1387234128;mike_c;yes. that's the beauty. 424346;1387234138;mircea_popescu;so any new bet is basically a landrush to buy the early shares ? 424347;1387234161;mircea_popescu;basically to extract value out of this scheme all you need to know is your avg volume 424348;1387234171;mike_c;not exactly. the bet should always, throughout its lifetime, float around its current probability 424349;1387234195;mike_c;and if you see an imbalance, you are incented to act quickly 424350;1387234201;mircea_popescu;but if i know that a certain bet will reach say 200 btc total wagered 424351;1387234204;mike_c;whereas right now an imbalance means nothing 424352;1387234212;mircea_popescu;then as long as the odds are 10:1 or less i am safe buying 10 btc each side, cheap shares 424353;1387234253;mike_c;first off, that is currently the situation with BB. betting early on a high volume bet is a guaranteed win. 424354;1387234260;asciilifeform;unrelated: crypto-auction! https://groups.google.com/d/msg/urbit-dev/KNkFS_34P_I/RQmpPTkP2tcJ 424355;1387234268;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14550 @ 0.00090244 = 13.1305 BTC [-] 424356;1387234268;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 40 @ 0.0248 = 0.992 BTC [-] 424357;1387234270;mike_c;but shares do not devalue with time in this scheme. 424358;1387234283;mike_c;that is, say the situation went differently. 424359;1387234290;mike_c;0.7 on dems, then 10 on reps 424360;1387234297;mike_c;now i can buy profitable dem shares again 424361;1387234316;mike_c;and am incented to do so quickly, before someone else does 424362;1387234359;mike_c;so the right time to bet is when i feel the odds are wrong, which isn't really the case right now 424363;1387234374;mircea_popescu;suppose i send 1 btc, ion the reps, and discover i didn't get 8 shares but .7 because someone put 10btc in 10 minutes before me. 424364;1387234383;mircea_popescu;i now go to the forum and open a scam thread, saying you put the 10 btc 424365;1387234385;mircea_popescu;what do you do ? 424366;1387234393;mike_c;you basically put in a limit order. "buy up to 10btc of shares at up to 0.2 each" 424367;1387234450;mike_c;nobody unhappy, because if that whale gets in before you, you just don't get filled 424368;1387234451;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21331 @ 0.00090148 = 19.2295 BTC [-] {2} 424369;1387234456;mike_c;and now you bet the other side. 424370;1387234472;mircea_popescu;... 424371;1387234490;mike_c;it's right. i feel it. i'll build a simulation. 424372;1387234512;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00089511 = 0.8951 BTC [-] 424373;1387234530;mike_c;unless something seems way off to you. like the idea of putting in a limit order. 424374;1387234606;mircea_popescu;i just gave an example 424375;1387234611;mircea_popescu;what do you do in that case ? 424376;1387234726;mike_c;you have to refund I guess. I'm on bitbet, i say "i want 10btc of dems at up to 0.2 per share". You generate an address and in your DB mark it as a limit order at 0.2. if you can only fill 5btc of it you have to send the other 5 back.. 424377;1387234771;mircea_popescu;this will be a pain to run. 424378;1387234777;mircea_popescu;moving on : how do you sort within a block ? 424379;1387234787;mircea_popescu;say both me and kako send in block 275000. who goes in first ? 424380;1387234806;mike_c;yes.. well, JD creamed satoshi-dice because having an account has advantages :) 424381;1387234816;mike_c;lemme think on sorting. 424382;1387234837;mike_c;same block, sort by bet time? 424383;1387234839;thestrin1puller;mircea_popescu: when you retrieve depth stat and matches to json stat, no? So is it possibly to just take current top ask/bid depth value and translate it into market buy or market sell? 424384;1387234846;thestrin1puller;i'm sure this has been asked before so I apologize 424385;1387234862;mircea_popescu;well sure it is, bash/python/we you use 424386;1387234870;mircea_popescu;mike_c the time value is iffy 424387;1387234908;mike_c;i meant bet time on BitBet, but you reuse addresses, so you won't always have that. 424388;1387234909;mircea_popescu;(depending who mines the block the same exact tx can end up with diff timestamps) 424389;1387234933;mircea_popescu;like say pool x could mine me before kako, and pool y could mine kako before me 424390;1387234957;mike_c;ah, block time isn't dependable? 424391;1387234961;mircea_popescu;nope. 424392;1387234969;mircea_popescu;in the best case is "when we heard the tx" 424393;1387234981;mircea_popescu;or, what the node that told us the tx said 424394;1387234986;mircea_popescu;or, what the user making the tx said the time was 424395;1387234988;mircea_popescu;or we 424396;1387235009;mircea_popescu;the blockchain exists in the first place because time isnt reliable. 424397;1387235014;mircea_popescu;otherwise we'd just use timestamps 424398;1387235094;mike_c;this may not be possible without accounts.. which i guess makes it no good for BB. 424399;1387235104;mircea_popescu;how do you time accounts ? 424400;1387235122;mike_c;i mean like having balances on BB 424401;1387235126;mircea_popescu;even so ? 424402;1387235127;mike_c;ala JD 424403;1387235135;mike_c;then its the same as mpex 424404;1387235137;mircea_popescu;jd isn't a mega concurrency engine. ppl bet the house 424405;1387235149;mircea_popescu;that may be a little expensive to make. 424406;1387235174;mike_c;except the order of magnitude is lower 424407;1387235175;thestrin1puller;;;ticker 424408;1387235176;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 740.0, Best ask: 743.28947, Bid-ask spread: 3.28947, Last trade: 740.0, 24 hour volume: 40151.84292354, 24 hour low: 714.11, 24 hour high: 928.0, 24 hour vwap: 800.48436 424409;1387235183;mike_c;so it doesn't need to be mpex 424410;1387235302;mircea_popescu;honestly i dun see myself using it, sounds like a sort of bettrade w/e that thing was called, except with a perhaps very broken auto-mm tacked on 424411;1387235334;mike_c;the mm is just a help to see what you're getting. 424412;1387235343;mike_c;similar to the calculator on BB right now 424413;1387235357;mircea_popescu;if you're gonna do that may as well just make it the thing, let people trade shares. 424414;1387235370;mircea_popescu;or for that matter invest in zh's darling, i forget what it was called. 424415;1387235375;thestrin1puller;mircea_popescu: on "stat" call 424416;1387235382;thestrin1puller;do you get back every transaction you've ever made? 424417;1387235388;mircea_popescu;since last stat. 424418;1387235394;mircea_popescu;or an hour prior or something like that 424419;1387235397;Bunnyh;how about sorting bets in the same block by creation time of betting addresses? 424420;1387235404;thestrin1puller;oh wow 424421;1387235416;mircea_popescu;Bunnyh he wants accts i thought 424422;1387235427;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8026 @ 0.00089501 = 7.1834 BTC [-] {2} 424423;1387235461;mike_c;if it can be done without accts, all the better. just sorting incoming bets is the problem. 424424;1387235490;mike_c;and the fact that you would need to potentially return money. 424425;1387235495;thestringpuller;mircea_popescu: so for the "average" mpex user they would need to call stat evert "blah" hours and keep a log of all of them to record every trade/transaction they've made on mpex no? 424426;1387235503;mircea_popescu;and the fact that you will need a very solid api or nobody will mm it. 424427;1387235524;mircea_popescu;bbet's interface is very simple by design, but your thing would be sort-of like the rpc call of all time 424428;1387235536;mircea_popescu;thestringpuller they can call it once a month 424429;1387235554;thestringpuller;but they would need a "stat.log" or something? 424430;1387235564;mircea_popescu;well w/e they wish to use 424431;1387235576;jurov;that 424432;1387235576;mircea_popescu;yes, if they want to store data they;ll need a filesystem or some other similar implement 424433;1387235588;thestringpuller;of course, but the user has to record, mpex doesn't have SoR 424434;1387235592;jurov;thas's why pympex logs by default 424435;1387235610;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 24 @ 0.045 = 1.08 BTC [-] 424436;1387235611;thestringpuller;yea, but I was seeing how the user could see more of their trades in a gui 424437;1387235621;thestringpuller;like a large table 424438;1387235628;mircea_popescu;in principle a good client logs. 424439;1387235641;thestringpuller;and stat only shows recent, was seeing if the user would be the SoR 424440;1387235650;thestringpuller;if so then user would load previous logs into new client 424441;1387235659;thestringpuller;then have all trade data for that account 424442;1387235754;mike_c;if this were a simple problem we wouldn't be talking about it. simple designs are great, but limiting. 424443;1387235764;mircea_popescu;no argument. 424444;1387235783;mircea_popescu;still, we use http and tcp/ip 424445;1387235791;mircea_popescu;we don't use windows or macos 424446;1387235873;mike_c;yeah, i just feel like we're talking about tcp KEEP_ALIVE and deciding it's too complicated :) even tcp is complicated. 424447;1387235889;mike_c;i'll think on it some more. and can maybe explain more clearly. 424448;1387236159;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.2599 = 0.7797 BTC [+] {2} 424449;1387236436;mircea_popescu;tcp ios kinda complicated... 424450;1387236586;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.0008963 = 11.383 BTC [+] 424451;1387236891;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 895 @ 0.00240374 = 2.1513 BTC [+] {3} 424452;1387236892;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.25414444 = 2.2873 BTC [-] {4} 424453;1387238416;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18059 @ 0.00089789 = 16.215 BTC [+] {2} 424454;1387238832;pankkake;looks like bitcoin-central is goxed 424455;1387238981;turbo_ac100;hey mircea_popescu, do you want to make someone make a firefox search engine plugin for bitbet? Imagine asigning keyword bb and just 'bb bfl' would CREATE fun - or at least find it. 424456;1387239021;mircea_popescu;hehe not such a bad idea 424457;1387239043;mircea_popescu;<pankkake> looks like bitcoin-central is goxed << hi davout 424458;1387239048;dub;guys 424459;1387239054;dub;everyone chill the fuck out 424460;1387239062;dub;http://www.thestreet.com/story/12154966/1/five-ways-to-fix-bitcoin.html 424461;1387239062;ozbot;Five Ways to Fix Bitcoin - TheStreet 424462;1387239072;turbo_ac100;should be half an hour of work max: mycroft project is your friend http://mycroftproject.com/search-engines.html 424463;1387239085;mircea_popescu;wow dub ty for saving the day 424464;1387239092;dub;this has to be satire right? 424465;1387239100;mircea_popescu;unintentional, but yes. 424466;1387239123;pankkake;"Select images for those bitcoin printings that convey respect and prestige globally, perhaps the portraits of American presidents" unintentional? 424467;1387239131;davout;pankkake: wat 424468;1387239134;dub;5 wayz to fux buttcoin, make it into USD 424469;1387239143;mircea_popescu;since when does the set of us presidents convey respek or prestige ? 424470;1387239157;pankkake;davout: oh it's back. it was showing 0€ no trades 424471;1387239160;mircea_popescu;dub that's thinking outsidda da box yo 424472;1387239165;dub;they are people that other people have or would liek to shoot at duh 424473;1387239190;mircea_popescu;dub thb they look kinda like the presidents of all failed european colonies. 424474;1387239198;mircea_popescu;new zealand, rhodesia, name your pick 424475;1387239199;davout;pankkake: that happens when the front has loaded, but it' still waiting for the api to answer 424476;1387239209;davout;pankkake: in other words when we're goxxed 424477;1387239212;davout;xD 424478;1387239213;pankkake;hehe 424479;1387239214;mircea_popescu;lawl 424480;1387239221;pankkake;so much volume, can't handle it! 424481;1387239226;dub;too popular 424482;1387239226;davout;fuck yes 424483;1387239234;davout;such volume 424484;1387239238;dub;such success 424485;1387239239;pankkake;that's what you get for using ruby 424486;1387239244;mircea_popescu;confucius say : he who fuck yes is yay. 424487;1387239269;davout;i use ruby 424488;1387239276;mircea_popescu;no, ruby uses you. 424489;1387239276;davout;in the berlusconi way 424490;1387239296;mircea_popescu;btw, who's berlusconi's latest gf ? 424491;1387239305;mircea_popescu;did he move off the twelve year old ? 424492;1387239308;davout;some random inmate i presume 424493;1387239317;mircea_popescu;wait he;'s in jale ? 424494;1387239321;davout;dunno 424495;1387239360;mircea_popescu;is an Italian politician, entrepreneur, media tycoon, frequent criminal defendant and convicted tax evader who served three times as Prime Minister of Italy 424496;1387239366;mircea_popescu;sounds like that place. 424497;1387239411;mircea_popescu;In November 2010, teenage Moroccan belly dancer and alleged prostitute Karima El Mahroug (better known as "Ruby Rubacuori") claimed to have been given $10,000 by Berlusconi at parties at his private villas. The girl told prosecutors in Milan that these events were like orgies where Berlusconi and 20 young women performed an African-style ritual known as the "bunga bunga" in the nude. 424498;1387239412;mircea_popescu;aha! 424499;1387239429;kakobrekla;such spread 424500;1387239450;turbo_ac100;"Select images for those bitcoin printings that convey respect and prestige globally, perhaps the portraits of American presidents." o_O 424501;1387239466;davout;i always want to make yo mamma jokes when someone mentions a wide spread 424502;1387239488;asciilifeform;anyone remember the american politician with the 'wide stance' ? 424503;1387239505;dub;palin? 424504;1387239514;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 45 @ 0.00296998 = 0.1336 BTC [+] {4} 424505;1387239525;asciilifeform;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Craig_scandal 424506;1387239526;ozbot;Larry Craig scandal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 424507;1387239528;kakobrekla;"yo mama has such spread its useful for such spread joke" 424508;1387239543;kakobrekla;liek dat? 424509;1387239549;dub;so humerus 424510;1387239750;davout;kakobrekla: something like that 424511;1387239917;dub;woot passed 200 pages in my document that nobody will read! 424512;1387239977;benkay;what document, dub? 424513;1387240036;kakobrekla;dont read it or else he will have to start over 424514;1387240058;dub;PoC test for a metro ethernet 424515;1387240078;dub;so yes, lots of drawings 424516;1387240159;benkay;i love the documents nobody will ever read 424517;1387240173;dub;theres only like 25k words so far 424518;1387240195;benkay;that'd be one of the reasons i bailed on the semiconductor space 424519;1387240442;mircea_popescu;there's a girl somewhere in a basement, kinda mousty, kinda cute, with glases and b tits 424520;1387240446;mircea_popescu;READING ALL THESE 424521;1387240467;benkay;so these gpg contracts 424522;1387240551;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17029 @ 0.00089346 = 15.2147 BTC [-] {3} 424523;1387240612;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6371 @ 0.00089323 = 5.6908 BTC [-] {2} 424524;1387240691;benkay;specifically for MPOE/MPEx, wherein it's laid out that bond deposits must be greater than 100 BTC - what is our overlord's process for updating these contracts to reflect the reality of 50 BTC bond deposits, and how would our overlord advise future contract writers to behave when making similar modifications? 424525;1387240751;mircea_popescu;there;s 50 btc bond deposits ? 424526;1387240782;BingoBoingo;There is an Alphabet Soup Agency Agent right now reading all of Bitcointalk's posts and being pissed that the guy in the neighboring cubicle gets to instead just read the -assets log and follow any linked content. 424527;1387240784;mircea_popescu;there probably should be 10 btc bond deposits, seeing how the lot got downsized 424528;1387240797;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo word lol 424529;1387240895;jurov;O.o benkay you're writing guidelines for contract writers??? 424530;1387240897;benkay;well i'll be damned 424531;1387240918;kakobrekla;its an interesting topic 424532;1387240933;benkay;nah jurov i'm just wrong about stuff 424533;1387240967;benkay;but maybe one day i'll have written a few gpg contracts and can write guidelines for stuff 424534;1387240993;kakobrekla;i put the variable part of the contract in a seperate part 424535;1387240998;jurov;smickles wrote some 424536;1387241000;kakobrekla;i did put 424537;1387241006;jurov;i then snatched them 424538;1387241014;jurov;and mutilated beyond repair 424539;1387241018;kakobrekla;so you end up with 2 docs, one being disposable or whatever 424540;1387241023;benkay;o hey mind forwarding your snatch? 424541;1387241032;benkay;(el oh el forwarding a snatch) 424542;1387241043;jurov;you want to pay smickles too? 424543;1387241089;benkay;can't see why i would 424544;1387241206;mircea_popescu;having a variable part kinda defeats the immutable niceness of gpg 424545;1387241213;mircea_popescu;immutable niceness kinda defeats being alive 424546;1387241218;mircea_popescu;rock paper snatch. 424547;1387241276;kakobrekla;like deposit addy is defined in X where X is a time limited contract 424548;1387241296;mircea_popescu;that works yes 424549;1387241302;mircea_popescu;or like the x.eur settlement works 424550;1387241466;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 515 @ 0.00089806 = 0.4625 BTC [+] 424551;1387242137;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5550 @ 0.00089979 = 4.9938 BTC [+] 424552;1387242320;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 70 @ 0.00297397 = 0.2082 BTC [+] 424553;1387242381;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 52 @ 0.00291245 = 0.1514 BTC [-] {3} 424554;1387242492;benkay;!t m nsa 424555;1387242493;assbot;Things which are alike, in nature, grow to look alike, and the speaking stones have lain a long time lookin' at the sun. 424556;1387242501;benkay;!h 424557;1387242501;assbot;List of commands: 424558;1387242502;assbot;!ticker (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !t} 424559;1387242503;assbot;!last (desc: returns last price value, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !l} 424560;1387242504;assbot;!mp (desc: returns the response from MPEX order) 424561;1387242505;assbot;!rules (desc: chan guidelines) {short: !r} 424562;1387242506;assbot;!exchanges (desc: lists exchanges and brokers) {short: !e} 424563;1387242507;assbot;!jd (desc: returns relevant stats from https://just-dice.com) 424564;1387242508;assbot;!bash (desc: bashes last lines to bash) {short: !b} 424565;1387242509;assbot;!quote (desc: quotes last lines and returns dpaste url) {short: !q} 424566;1387242528;benkay;!t m snsa 424567;1387242528;assbot;Shit. You ain't even old enough to smoke. 424568;1387242535;benkay;!t mpex snsa 424569;1387242535;assbot;I don't know those people, and they don't look very friendly. 424570;1387242538;kakobrekla;!t m s.nsa 424571;1387242539;assbot;[MPEX:S.NSA] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00015 / 0.00015066 / 0.00016 (11671 shares, 1.76 BTC), 30D: 0.0001011 / 0.00010918 / 0.00016 (508879 shares, 55.56 BTC) 424572;1387242539;benkay;!t mpex nsa 424573;1387242539;assbot;I don't know those people, and they don't look very friendly. 424574;1387242563;benkay;thanks kakobrekla 424575;1387242569;kakobrekla;yw 424576;1387242582;benkay;!l m s.nsa 424577;1387242582;assbot;Last trade for S.NSA on MPEX was at 0.00016 BTC [+] 424578;1387242671;jurov;!t m x.eur 424579;1387242672;assbot;The vision of Christ that thou dost see ... is my vision's greatest enemy. 424580;1387242679;wao-ender;:D 424581;1387242682;jurov;!depth m x.eur 424582;1387242726;jurov;$depth x.eur 424583;1387242727;mpexbot;jurov: X.EUR Bids: ['5000 @ 0.0016245', '2000 @ 0.0016129', '100 @ 0.00153846', '350 @ 0.00147'] 424584;1387242728;mpexbot;jurov: Asks: ['1000 @ 0.00209999', '1000 @ 0.00217391', '2000 @ 0.00227272'] 424585;1387242749;benkay;i see davout is now posting bids and asks ;) 424586;1387242768;jurov;if it's davout 424587;1387242803;jurov;in the beginning there was only 2000 bid/ask 424588;1387242815;jurov;the 1000/5000 ones are newere 424589;1387242815;benkay;well someone 424590;1387242827;benkay;davout i think is obligated to maintain a spread 424591;1387242854;jurov;that was helluva spread at first 424592;1387242863;benkay;hella spreaaaad 424593;1387242863;mircea_popescu;still kinda wide 424594;1387242870;jurov;;;calc 1/0.00209999 424595;1387242870;gribble;476.192743775 424596;1387242880;jurov;;;calc 1/0.00162450 424597;1387242880;gribble;615.574022776 424598;1387242921;jurov;;;bc,convert eur 424599;1387242922;gribble;1 BTC = 736.0 USD = 534.9984 eur 424600;1387242937;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.04425 = 0.177 BTC [-] {2} 424601;1387242998;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 768 @ 0.00297079 = 2.2816 BTC [+] {4} 424602;1387243059;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 107 @ 0.0029708 = 0.3179 BTC [+] 424603;1387243425;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 70 @ 0.0028505 = 0.1995 BTC [-] {3} 424604;1387245133;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8935 @ 0.00089979 = 8.0396 BTC [+] {2} 424605;1387245194;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.2560007 = 0.768 BTC [+] {3} 424606;1387245255;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.25233366 = 2.271 BTC [-] {6} 424607;1387245621;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3015 @ 0.00089566 = 2.7004 BTC [-] 424608;1387245744;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12685 @ 0.00089525 = 11.3562 BTC [-] {2} 424609;1387245751;benkay;"the operators of bitcoin" oh my lols 424610;1387245855;jborkl;Sup ladies 424611;1387245864;benkay;can't tell if derp or sarcasm 424612;1387245913;truffles;hey girls 424613;1387245921;mike_c;it should be on coinion, but it's atcually derp. 424614;1387246170;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6221 @ 0.00089318 = 5.5565 BTC [-] {2} 424615;1387246298;mircea_popescu;the operators of bitcoin, twisted instigators. 424616;1387246777;jborkl;Bitcoin is boring lately, I am going to start trolling to keep myself entertained 424617;1387246841;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16300 @ 0.00089431 = 14.5773 BTC [+] 424618;1387248061;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12464 @ 0.00089306 = 11.1311 BTC [-] {2} 424619;1387248122;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1636 @ 0.00089172 = 1.4589 BTC [-] 424620;1387248643;truffles;dub the dick 424621;1387248645;truffles;lol 424622;1387248723;dub;never 424623;1387248740;truffles;nim thinks so :p 424624;1387249708;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7764 @ 0.00089172 = 6.9233 BTC [-] 424625;1387250132;pankkake;my Bernankoin is going along well, finally. preview of the splash screen: http://i.imgur.com/3vshLef.png 424626;1387250143;pankkake;just need to tweak the Quantitative Easing function some more 424627;1387250257;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10337 @ 0.0008916 = 9.2165 BTC [-] 424628;1387250501;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.25 = 1.5 BTC [-] 424629;1387250867;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6226 @ 0.00089574 = 5.5769 BTC [+] {2} 424630;1387250916;mircea_popescu;http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/12/16/the-nsa-claims-it-foiled-a-foreign-plot-to-destroy-the-u-s-economy/ 424631;1387250916;ozbot;The NSA Claims It Foiled a Foreign Plot to Destroy the U.S. Economy | TheBlaze.com 424632;1387250927;mircea_popescu;the bitcoin is foiled! 424633;1387250931;Apocalyptic;wtf 424634;1387250946;truffles;lmao 424635;1387250961;truffles;bitcoin is a terrorist organization 424636;1387250965;mircea_popescu;pls gib us more monyz, we are not useless. we thwarted a tethan plot to turn the sun pink! 424637;1387250995;Apocalyptic;heh 424638;1387251027;Diablo-D3;the market is down to $700 again? heh. 424639;1387251233;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 20 @ 0.0249 = 0.498 BTC [+] 424640;1387251288;Ziggy9263;Let the lurking begin? 424641;1387251294;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 17 @ 0.0249 = 0.4233 BTC [+] 424642;1387251298;ThickAsThieves;mining is no longer profitable, stop teh hashzorz! 424643;1387251312;Apocalyptic;TAT, don't bother, you're not winning the bet :) 424644;1387251318;ThickAsThieves;:) 424645;1387251327;Ziggy9263;.bait 424646;1387251328;ozbot;http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbrbz7hSy71qk6jw7o1_500.jpg 424647;1387251348;ThickAsThieves;an american can dream, can't he? 424648;1387251390;Ziggy9263;.bait 424649;1387251391;ozbot;http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4qn0j7Prn1r9mvn7o1_500.jpg 424650;1387251396;Ziggy9263;.bait 424651;1387251398;ozbot;http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9as1xK4Wn1rb3lryo1_500.jpg 424652;1387251403;Ziggy9263;.sharkbait 424653;1387251409;Ziggy9263;.oohaha 424654;1387251409;BingoBoingo;ThickAsThieves: At what point for you does sabotagine miners become profitable? 424655;1387251427;ThickAsThieves;ziggy, yknow you can make out with ozbot in private too 424656;1387251442;Ziggy9263;OH! 424657;1387251445;ThickAsThieves;i dont know what sabotage costs 424658;1387251454;Ziggy9263;I just saw the 500 and assumed it was the same picture... 424659;1387251454;asciilifeform;nsa foils plot to destroy us economy! strateegic nyooke levels redmond, wa. please stay out of crater. 424660;1387251457;Ziggy9263;It... Isn't... 424661;1387251477;BingoBoingo;ThickAsThieves: Well for a pair of shears and the location of the mains power into a mining farm... 424662;1387251496;ThickAsThieves;i assume attacking pools would be most disruptive 424663;1387251505;Apocalyptic;indeed 424664;1387251512;ThickAsThieves;i hear there's an internet main line in cyprus... 424665;1387251516;BingoBoingo;ThickAsThieves: Well I though you had a bet to win... 424666;1387251528;fiat500;ohai ThickAsThieves 424667;1387251531;BingoBoingo;Does NeoBee even hash? 424668;1387251532;ThickAsThieves;sup 424669;1387251536;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: botnets are already switching from mining to pool ddos. 424670;1387251548;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Took them long enough 424671;1387251548;ThickAsThieves;neobee gon hash donuwurry nun 424672;1387251558;asciilifeform;it's been the case for a while. 424673;1387251567;Apocalyptic;asciilifeform, interesting 424674;1387251568;asciilifeform;the best sabotage is free. 424675;1387251593;ThickAsThieves;i guess i need more hacker friends 424676;1387251695;Ziggy9263;ThickAsThieves: So do I. I need to hack more often, too. 424677;1387251705;Ziggy9263;I only ever do it at school, lol. 424678;1387251743;Ziggy9263;But really, once I have admin on the computer I'm on and free, unblocked internet, at school, then I'm all good, no need to hack more, lol. 424679;1387251765;Ziggy9263;But if I were to ever make it downtown to the ISD's office... 424680;1387251782;asciilifeform;there's more to life than an uncensored net connection. 424681;1387251789;Ziggy9263;I'd keep a livecd and a rat with me... 424682;1387251810;Ziggy9263;asciilifeform: That's where the admin power comes in, but only for the local computer... Which is nice. 424683;1387251812;Ziggy9263;Windows... 424684;1387251884;Ziggy9263;I know the password of one of my teachers, and so I log in, open up the console, add my admin account, log out and back into the account, and then I'm all good... After that, I just proxy on over to my server and then watch youtube videos all class period. 424685;1387251889;Ziggy9263;And go onto IRC. 424686;1387251904;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16067 @ 0.00089114 = 14.3179 BTC [-] {3} 424687;1387251964;Ziggy9263;asciilifeform: I have a question for you... 424688;1387251965;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1633 @ 0.00089027 = 1.4538 BTC [-] 424689;1387251965;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MG] 1337 @ 0.00010339 = 0.1382 BTC [-] {2} 424690;1387251965;assbot;[MPEX] [S.NSA] 1337 @ 0.00012 = 0.1604 BTC [-] 424691;1387251966;asciilifeform;prof at my uni, years ago, peeking at a kid's laptop: 'if you play net poker during my lecture, at least have the decency to win.' 424692;1387251985;Apocalyptic;heh 424693;1387252001;mircea_popescu;lol 424694;1387252007;Ziggy9263;asciilifeform: Internic Network... Reminds me of Uplink... You ever played it? 424695;1387252048;asciilifeform;? 424696;1387252055;Ziggy9263;Never played it? 424697;1387252121;asciilifeform;i've never 'played' times square, or the bering strait, or nato, either 424698;1387252126;asciilifeform;how do you 'play' internic? 424699;1387252138;Ziggy9263;asciilifeform: I asked if you'd played Uplink, sir. 424700;1387252150;Ziggy9263;asciilifeform: The game by introversion software. 424701;1387252153;asciilifeform;nope. 424702;1387252162;Ziggy9263;Okay then, nevermind... 424703;1387252187;asciilifeform;played 'core wars' though. 424704;1387252191;asciilifeform;recommended. 424705;1387252196;Ziggy9263;Ahahaha! 424706;1387252200;Ziggy9263;core wars... 424707;1387252217;Ziggy9263;I played it a little, had to format my computer before I could really get into it, though. 424708;1387252230;Ziggy9263;Do you also lurk in #osdev? 424709;1387252235;asciilifeform;nope. 424710;1387252258;Ziggy9263;Ok. Just wondering, because your name seemed familiar... 424711;1387252306;mircea_popescu;i played nato. 424712;1387252311;mircea_popescu;it's kinda boring 424713;1387252430;HaltingState;Ziggy9263, i love uplink 424714;1387252454;Ziggy9263;I love it, too. 424715;1387252470;dub;https://twitter.com/StephenAtHome/status/412769258771189761 424716;1387252470;ozbot;Twitter / StephenAtHome: TONIGHT: "The NSA is spying ... 424717;1387252477;Ziggy9263;I want to get a tablet just so I can play it on the tablet, lol. 424718;1387252497;mod6;corewars++ 424719;1387252518;Ziggy9263;And corewars is cool, too. 424720;1387252532;Ziggy9263;Any of you ever heard of PSDoom? 424721;1387252697;Ziggy9263;No? 424722;1387253006;truffles;dub heard about that lol 424723;1387253022;BingoBoingo;Anyone here see that Scheier is getting pushed out of his "Security Futurist" job at BT? 424724;1387253027;truffles;and how there are so many narcs theyre running into each other lol 424725;1387253096;BingoBoingo;Everyone is a narc when exposed to rectothermal threats 424726;1387253133;asciilifeform;'hey torquemada! what do you say? - i just got back from the auto-da-fe!' 424727;1387253143;truffles;;;ud rectothermal 424728;1387253144;gribble;Google found nothing. 424729;1387253165;truffles;;;google rectothermal 424730;1387253166;gribble;Schneier on Security: Norbt: ; Loper OS » Practical Cryptoanalysis of Elliptic Curve DSA.: ; Amazon Vows To Fight Government Requests For Data - Slashdot: 424731;1387253197;truffles;wtf does that mean! 424732;1387253212;asciilifeform;looks like i might be responsible for throwing that into the english-speaking world. 424733;1387253243;bloctoc;;;ud rectum 424734;1387253244;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=rectum | Rectum. Arsehole; anus; poop chute; where thy loafs become pinched. The place where excretement is expelled from the body in a glorius flexing of thy muscles ... 424735;1387253245;ozbot;Urban Dictionary: rectum 424736;1387253268;truffles;so its like a probe but with pcs ? 424737;1387253271;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: You did indeed 424738;1387253284;BingoBoingo;truffles: It is a soldering iron in the pooper 424739;1387253306;truffles;what human would do that 424740;1387253321;BingoBoingo;truffles: A human who really wants another human's secrets 424741;1387253415;truffles;thats no longer a human to me 424742;1387253427;truffles;or at least not a sane one 424743;1387253441;jborkl;Well I guess it depends on if it is on or off 424744;1387253453;asciilifeform;what's the sane thing to do? ask the enemy nicely? 424745;1387253465;BingoBoingo;truffles: Maybe not a person. Human though merely implies species, not the worth of any particular member of the species. 424746;1387253466;asciilifeform;that's normally done first, in any case. 424747;1387253492;asciilifeform;'1st degree of the extraordinary question: shown the instruments.' 424748;1387253516;truffles;torture works on the weak sure 424749;1387253521;truffles;true believers i dunno 424750;1387253540;truffles;and most ppl wouldve already spilled 424751;1387253551;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49600 @ 0.00089712 = 44.4972 BTC [+] {2} 424752;1387253571;asciilifeform;choice was whether to spill before or after the smell of sizzling arse fills the room. 424753;1387253625;fiat500;BingoBoingo: BT? 424754;1387253640;BingoBoingo;fiat500: The telecom he work/s/ed for 424755;1387253649;fiat500;he works for a british telecom? 424756;1387253673;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 2000 @ 0.001 = 2 BTC 424757;1387253676;BingoBoingo;Seems like it 424758;1387253678;fiat500;wtf 424759;1387253681;fiat500;thats insane 424760;1387253705;BingoBoingo;Well, it goes well with the he was a government collaborator theory... 424761;1387253709;fiat500;the brits are so much worse about personal privacy than the US 424762;1387253722;fiat500;eh, interesting conspiracy theory 424763;1387253750;truffles;what did he collaborate?? 424764;1387253753;fiat500;where is this news? 424765;1387253874;BingoBoingo;fiat500: This is just a tabloid source, but http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/12/nsa-surveillance-critic-bruce-schneier-to-leave-post-at-bt/ 424766;1387253894;fiat500;ars is a tabloid now? 424767;1387253908;BingoBoingo;fiat500: it kind of has been for a while\ 424768;1387253961;fiat500;oh, he was acqui-hired 424769;1387253967;fiat500;that makes more sense to me 424770;1387253981;BingoBoingo;And now he's Departe-fired 424771;1387253998;fiat500;lol, nice play on words 424772;1387254034;truffles;"BT has been fingered by The Guardian" hmm 424773;1387254344;deego;Did BT like it? 424774;1387254367;truffles;prob not 424775;1387254386;deego;Fingered by its own Guardian. That's some serious abuse. :( 424776;1387254524;mircea_popescu;hahahaha 424777;1387255015;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 10 @ 0.042 = 0.42 BTC [+] 424778;1387255529;mircea_popescu;some fucktard is trying to sell me some amazon bitcoin bible 424779;1387255542;mircea_popescu;"over 200 pages the book describes easy to understand, but in depth all the 424780;1387255542;mircea_popescu;wide-ranging aspects of Bitcoins" 424781;1387255550;mircea_popescu;written by a bunch of tards i never heard of. 424782;1387255554;mircea_popescu;what is this world coming to 424783;1387255575;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: I'd be more disturbed if they weren't selling it. 424784;1387255634;mircea_popescu;i guess niels bohr also got fliers in the mail about this new way to learn all there's tio know about neutrinos 424785;1387255646;mircea_popescu;written by our entreprising if dimwitted friends across the pond 424786;1387255675;BingoBoingo;Of course 424787;1387255846;ThickAsThieves;lets IPO a book 424788;1387255851;ThickAsThieves;the history of bitcoin 424789;1387255856;ThickAsThieves;itll just be the IRC log 424790;1387255869;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00089772 = 8.1693 BTC [+] 424791;1387255869;ThickAsThieves;this the ending for it. 424792;1387255871;ThickAsThieves;fin. 424793;1387255899;mircea_popescu;you know mty logs of this chan are > 50mb 424794;1387255899;BingoBoingo;I dunno Paper gets expensive 424795;1387255910;mircea_popescu;that's roughly 10`000 pages. 424796;1387255912;ThickAsThieves;an e-book then! 424797;1387255922;ThickAsThieves;even scammier 424798;1387255952;ThickAsThieves;it's an epic history after all 424799;1387255972;ThickAsThieves;much drama and tragedy 424800;1387256002;Bugpowder;just thru chapter 3 424801;1387256035;mircea_popescu;tbh i think the "only 200 pages" is a selling point. 424802;1387256055;ThickAsThieves;maybe we need to hire a shakespeare to bibleize the storys 424803;1387256069;mircea_popescu;storeys 424804;1387256078;ThickAsThieves;sry storees 424805;1387256096;ThickAsThieves;parables n whatnot 424806;1387256114;ThickAsThieves;Mircea 5:12 424807;1387256118;mircea_popescu;to invest or not, is it wiser in the purse to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous povertah 424808;1387256131;ThickAsThieves;hehe 424809;1387256134;mircea_popescu;or take arms against a sea of ipos and in scamtagging end them! 424810;1387256136;fiat500;and lo, mircea said unto thee, insert coins to continue reading 424811;1387256174;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.02499995 = 0.125 BTC [+] 424812;1387256509;ThickAsThieves;http://www.bitcoinpulse.com/ 424813;1387256510;ozbot;Bitcoin Pulse - Monitoring the pulse of Bitcoin 424814;1387256540;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.25348799 BTC [+] 424815;1387256601;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19800 @ 0.00089862 = 17.7927 BTC [+] {2} 424816;1387256650;deego;assbot: nice a.. and nice name! 424817;1387256845;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10606 @ 0.0008968 = 9.5115 BTC [-] 424818;1387256906;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 4000 @ 0.00045218 = 1.8087 BTC [-] {2} 424819;1387257211;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14613 @ 0.00089733 = 13.1127 BTC [+] {2} 424820;1387257882;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 700 @ 0.002321 = 1.6247 BTC [-] 424821;1387257943;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.24301428 = 1.7011 BTC [-] {4} 424822;1387258004;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3204 @ 0.00089966 = 2.8825 BTC [+] 424823;1387258736;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00090021 = 2.6106 BTC [+] 424824;1387258858;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.24997799 BTC [+] 424825;1387258914;benkay;asciilifeform: i attended a talk on a google product this evening (that strongly resembles javascript but isn't in some not so subtle ways) and when i asked the presenter about managing different versions of libs on one computer was told that such was just never considered as a use case. 424826;1387258919;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.24999779 = 1.25 BTC [+] {3} 424827;1387258923;benkay;how did we get here? 424828;1387258942;benkay;more importantly than loper os is a history of "why compute am broek: a histree" 424829;1387259001;benkay;anyways. i don't really understand these tools yet but i suspect something went horribly horribly wrong at some point before i was born. 424830;1387259067;BingoBoingo;benkay: Well, in asciilifeform's case a bit after he was born, but still after 424831;1387259129;benkay;BingoBoingo: do you know? can you recite the ballad of how computers got wholly fucked? 424832;1387259150;fiat500;benkay: this wouldnt be an issue if "modern" programmers werent so fucking lazy and stopped breaking backward compatibility with every dot release 424833;1387259167;fiat500;then we wouldnt need bullshit like rvm 424834;1387259219;benkay;there are lots of stupid people out there who are always going to make shitty code 424835;1387259221;BingoBoingo;fiat500: As a counter example backwards compatibility has crippled x86 for most of its histoy. 424836;1387259244;fiat500;you say crippled, i say there are wonderful libs written 10 years ago i can still use today 424837;1387259262;fiat500;not everyone can keep maintaing every piece of code they write 424838;1387259322;BingoBoingo;fiat500: I don't mean on that level. I mean in that eal and protected modes are still things in x86 424839;1387259373;asciilifeform;and so are msdos-era oddities like 'unreal mode.' 424840;1387259395;fiat500;how is that holding things back? just leave it 424841;1387259412;asciilifeform;it still wurks. used an intel 'xeon' in 'unreal mode' just last year. 424842;1387259461;Apocalyptic;hum 424843;1387259477;Apocalyptic;why was that mode used for in the first place ? 424844;1387259515;asciilifeform;16 bit instrs with flat address space. 424845;1387259529;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56638 @ 0.00089937 = 50.9385 BTC [-] {2} 424846;1387259609;asciilifeform;segmented address spaces, book-length instruction sets, interrupt controllers with book-length specs, etc. are retarded. 424847;1387259611;fiat500;anyway, theres probably more valid arguments against keeping legacy vm features than there are against maintaining sane APIs 424848;1387259621;asciilifeform;sorry, there just isn't another side to it 424849;1387259636;fiat500;motherfucker, dont change the goddamn API, i dont want to rewrite my goddamn code every time you release a new version 424850;1387259643;fiat500; 424851;1387259668;fiat500;deprecate the old one and stop updating it, sure 424852;1387259680;mircea_popescu;fiat500 part of that is making very simple apis 424853;1387259712;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 5700 @ 0.001 = 5.7 BTC 424854;1387259732;fiat500;mircea_popescu: some of these so-called 'modern' languages change basic core premises in the language sometimes 424855;1387259751;fiat500;"lel0loloz i'm changing how 'print' behaves" 424856;1387259761;fiat500;&c 424857;1387259761;gribble;Error: "c" is not a valid command. 424858;1387259769;fiat500;O_o 424859;1387259828;asciilifeform;not everything is built by retarded trendoids: 424860;1387259847;asciilifeform;here next to me sits a paperback book, on the instruction set used by the cpu in 'cardano' 424861;1387259855;asciilifeform;library sticker reads '1988'. 424862;1387259913;fiat500;btw, ffmpeg is especially bad at this 424863;1387259922;fiat500;those guys can rot in hell :P 424864;1387259955;Apocalyptic;asciilifeform, out of curiosity what OS are you running for everyday use ? 424865;1387259963;benkay;what is the cpu, asciilifeform? 424866;1387259975;asciilifeform;for everyday use, ordinary linux 424867;1387259977;asciilifeform;'gentoo' 424868;1387259999;asciilifeform;cpu in what 424869;1387260029;Apocalyptic;what do you think of arch ? 424870;1387260041;asciilifeform;never used it, can't comment. 424871;1387260044;benkay;cardano 424872;1387260050;asciilifeform;'mips' 424873;1387260111;fiat500;dat mips, lets you choose your endianness 424874;1387260114;fiat500;how insane is that 424875;1387260116;benkay;sheeeeeeit. 424876;1387260126;asciilifeform;this is actually useful/ 424877;1387260127;asciilifeform;. 424878;1387260135;fiat500;i use insane positively here 424879;1387260169;asciilifeform;it's a headache if you intend to use an operating system 424880;1387260172;asciilifeform;but otherwise great. 424881;1387260234;asciilifeform;at any rate you set the flag once in antifuse & forget about it. 424882;1387260810;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26054 @ 0.00090019 = 23.4536 BTC [+] 424883;1387261298;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6185 @ 0.00089915 = 5.5612 BTC [-] {2} 424884;1387261359;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15615 @ 0.00089771 = 14.0177 BTC [-] 424885;1387265690;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12521 @ 0.00089771 = 11.2402 BTC [-] 424886;1387265690;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 88 @ 0.002321 = 0.2042 BTC [-] 424887;1387265873;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.00089849 = 10.692 BTC [+] 424888;1387266483;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 12 @ 0.024999 = 0.3 BTC [-] 424889;1387266543;BingoBoingo;.bait 424890;1387266544;ozbot;http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdw48hNMSC1rlvc92o1_500.jpg 424891;1387266972;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5168 @ 0.00089717 = 4.6366 BTC [-] {2} 424892;1387267215;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 32253 @ 0.00009603 = 3.0973 BTC [+] {5} 424893;1387267337;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4550 @ 0.0008964 = 4.0786 BTC [-] 424894;1387267948;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: If only Carlsen could LISP? https://twitter.com/Kasparov63/status/412715259124674560 424895;1387268374;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28274 @ 0.00089849 = 25.4039 BTC [+] 424896;1387268984;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19000 @ 0.00089867 = 17.0747 BTC [+] {2} 424897;1387270795;thestringpuller;;;estimate 424898;1387270796;gribble;Next difficulty estimate | 1130863047.84 based on data since last change | 1259820370.03 based on data for last three days 424899;1387271729;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17102 @ 0.00089848 = 15.3658 BTC [-] {2} 424900;1387271790;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3898 @ 0.00090021 = 3.509 BTC [+] {2} 424901;1387272523;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00089714 = 9.2405 BTC [-] {2} 424902;1387272706;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5873 @ 0.00090036 = 5.2878 BTC [+] {2} 424903;1387272889;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29350 @ 0.00090141 = 26.4564 BTC [+] {3} 424904;1387273377;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22750 @ 0.00090101 = 20.498 BTC [-] 424905;1387274231;assbot;[MPEX] [O] [O.USD.P095T] 5 @ 0.03 = 0.15 BTC [-] 424906;1387274414;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00089805 = 3.5922 BTC [-] {2} 424907;1387274902;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.043 = 0.301 BTC [-] 424908;1387274963;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.0425 = 0.1275 BTC [-] 424909;1387278196;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9339 @ 0.00089748 = 8.3816 BTC [-] {2} 424910;1387279233;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69691 @ 0.00089487 = 62.3644 BTC [-] {6} 424911;1387279294;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20309 @ 0.00089226 = 18.1209 BTC [-] {2} 424912;1387279782;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 21 @ 0.0468 = 0.9828 BTC [+] 424913;1387280575;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 681 @ 0.00089772 = 0.6113 BTC [+] 424914;1387281490;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.25250274 BTC [+] 424915;1387283381;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.00090129 = 7.0301 BTC [+] 424916;1387283381;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.25267275 = 1.516 BTC [+] {5} 424917;1387283442;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.25424994 = 2.034 BTC [+] {4} 424918;1387283503;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.255 BTC [+] 424919;1387283678;jurov;finally got at least 6% from bitfunder 424920;1387283704;jurov;but still was not said what happened to rest 424921;1387283991;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6250 @ 0.00090197 = 5.6373 BTC [+] 424922;1387284296;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15194 @ 0.00090271 = 13.7158 BTC [+] 424923;1387284483;nubbins`;hi 424924;1387284784;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16493 @ 0.00090271 = 14.8884 BTC [+] 424925;1387285211;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19850 @ 0.00090239 = 17.9124 BTC [-] {2} 424926;1387285394;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 47 @ 0.04201274 = 1.9746 BTC [-] {7} 424927;1387287163;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19538 @ 0.00090248 = 17.6327 BTC [+] 424928;1387287529;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17651 @ 0.00090066 = 15.8975 BTC [-] {4} 424929;1387288322;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6018 @ 0.00089912 = 5.4109 BTC [-] 424930;1387288767;taub_;soo 424931;1387288770;taub_;it's ded right 424932;1387288871;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24150 @ 0.00089903 = 21.7116 BTC [-] {2} 424933;1387288993;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.25633799 = 1.2817 BTC [+] {5} 424934;1387289176;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 500 @ 0.00245313 = 1.2266 BTC [+] {8} 424935;1387289481;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2574 BTC [+] 424936;1387290152;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10450 @ 0.00089898 = 9.3943 BTC [-] 424937;1387290457;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 323 @ 0.00232103 = 0.7497 BTC [-] {5} 424938;1387290640;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8235 @ 0.00089898 = 7.4031 BTC [-] 424939;1387291372;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11765 @ 0.00089921 = 10.5792 BTC [+] 424940;1387291774;nubbins`;;;ticker 424941;1387291775;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 730.005, Best ask: 731.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.99500, Last trade: 730.005, 24 hour volume: 53584.31024000, 24 hour low: 678.8904, 24 hour high: 849.0, 24 hour vwap: 746.9996 424942;1387291921;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26019 @ 0.00090106 = 23.4447 BTC [+] {4} 424943;1387292714;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23300 @ 0.00090317 = 21.0439 BTC [+] 424944;1387292836;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.0009021 = 4.0595 BTC [-] 424945;1387293202;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3248 @ 0.00090317 = 2.9335 BTC [+] 424946;1387293690;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00090317 = 6.3222 BTC [+] 424947;1387293934;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5450 @ 0.00090317 = 4.9223 BTC [+] 424948;1387294178;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1880 @ 0.0009021 = 1.6959 BTC [-] 424949;1387294422;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 10 @ 0.08948498 = 0.8948 BTC [+] {6} 424950;1387294727;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 10000 @ 0.001 = 10 BTC 424951;1387294788;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 37 @ 0.02397323 = 0.887 BTC [-] {4} 424952;1387295337;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 2454 @ 0.00248687 = 6.1028 BTC [+] {13} 424953;1387295886;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 37 @ 0.0028539 = 0.1056 BTC [-] {3} 424954;1387296008;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6152 @ 0.00090322 = 5.5566 BTC [+] {2} 424955;1387296648;ThickAsThieves;http://i.imgur.com/XRS4QRU.png 424956;1387296862;mike_c;bitcoins for beer. that $10k btc bet will be a lock. 424957;1387296923;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3346 @ 0.00090362 = 3.0235 BTC [+] {2} 424958;1387296984;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19318 @ 0.00090243 = 17.4331 BTC [-] {2} 424959;1387297126;ThickAsThieves;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpni-DtPWJA 424960;1387297127;ozbot;Almost Human - Bitcoin - YouTube 424961;1387297136;ThickAsThieves;bitcoin in the future! 424962;1387297161;Duffer1;LOL! 424963;1387297207;Duffer1;zoom enhance! now zoom again on that reflection and enhance 424964;1387297211;Duffer1;must be a bitcoin 424965;1387297482;lolstate;!seen ThickAsThieves 424966;1387297491;lolstate;;seen ThickAsThieves 424967;1387297503;lolstate;;;seen ThickAsThieves 424968;1387297503;gribble;ThickAsThieves was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 minutes and 7 seconds ago: bitcoin in the future! 424969;1387297519;lolstate;you don't say 424970;1387297838;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 6 @ 0.02449833 = 0.147 BTC [+] {3} 424971;1387298570;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 6 @ 0.0245 = 0.147 BTC [+] 424972;1387298875;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50720 @ 0.00090403 = 45.8524 BTC [+] {2} 424973;1387298936;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14580 @ 0.00090415 = 13.1825 BTC [+] {2} 424974;1387299001;jurov;http://explo.yt/post/2013/12/16/All-about-X.EUR-future-on-MPEx 424975;1387299002;ozbot;All about X.EUR future on MPEx - serialized delusions 424976;1387299209;davout;jurov: tweet dat shit 424977;1387299222;jurov;it's correct? 424978;1387299259;davout;yes 424979;1387299305;jurov;done 424980;1387299348;mike_c;i was just thinking that there aren't enough bloggers in the world. 424981;1387299419;mike_c;good post :) i spent way too long trying to parse the x.eur contract yesterday 424982;1387299445;the20year2;RentalStarter service payment has been made 424983;1387299512;davout;jurov get yourself a proper twitter icon 424984;1387299527;jurov;mhm 424985;1387299532;ThickAsThieves;more CSS! 424986;1387299543;davout;such avatar 424987;1387299608;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 20 @ 0.02439999 = 0.488 BTC [-] 424988;1387299729;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 85 @ 0.0028 = 0.238 BTC [+] 424989;1387299851;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3595 @ 0.00090418 = 3.2505 BTC [+] 424990;1387300095;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00090198 = 6.4943 BTC [-] {2} 424991;1387300705;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11726 @ 0.00089981 = 10.5512 BTC [-] {2} 424992;1387300766;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7374 @ 0.00089818 = 6.6232 BTC [-] 424993;1387301010;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0026703 = 0.267 BTC [-] {5} 424994;1387301011;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2576 BTC [+] 424995;1387301315;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17200 @ 0.0009045 = 15.5574 BTC [+] {2} 424996;1387301437;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 99 @ 0.00267 = 0.2643 BTC [-] {2} 424997;1387301438;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.261 BTC [+] 424998;1387301681;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.04499 = 0.18 BTC [+] 424999;1387301926;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21150 @ 0.00090503 = 19.1414 BTC [+] {3} 425000;1387302352;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00090373 = 2.8919 BTC [-] 425001;1387302596;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 50000 @ 0.00011499 = 5.7495 BTC [+] {13} 425002;1387303328;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 9255 @ 0.00011996 = 1.1102 BTC [+] {5} 425003;1387303450;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21955 @ 0.00090373 = 19.8414 BTC [-] {2} 425004;1387303877;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 855 @ 0.00012388 = 0.1059 BTC [+] {4} 425005;1387305402;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 45 @ 0.02291137 = 1.031 BTC [-] {5} 425006;1387305463;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 125 @ 0.0226168 = 2.8271 BTC [-] {3} 425007;1387305890;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 101 @ 0.0222 = 2.2422 BTC [-] {2} 425008;1387306569;mircea_popescu;http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/4/1/9/1/4/9/webimg/700111825_o.jpg 425009;1387306580;mircea_popescu;make underwear for the purpose of showing the snatch, 425010;1387306588;mircea_popescu;airbrush the snatch out of the publicity photos 425011;1387306598;mircea_popescu;this has got to be purit-us. 425012;1387306730;KRS-;I think I'm seeing higher lows forming on the graphs..market price is going to climb again after this last round of selling. 425013;1387306744;mircea_popescu;;;ticker 425014;1387306745;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 746.10001, Best ask: 746.9, Bid-ask spread: 0.79999, Last trade: 747.995, 24 hour volume: 46510.92498132, 24 hour low: 678.8904, 24 hour high: 824.88888, 24 hour vwap: 737.03733 425015;1387306755;KRS-;why blur the best part..damn. 425016;1387306769;KRS-;Looks delicious otherwise. 425017;1387306803;Namworld;Market price is always going to climb again after a round of selling or fall again after a round of buying. Be it in 1 minute, 1 day, 1 year or 200 years 425018;1387306825;mircea_popescu;now that's a point. 425019;1387306838;KRS-;ya..i was hoping it wasn't going to be a lower low and i am happy about that. 425020;1387306927;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3250 @ 0.00090352 = 2.9364 BTC [-] 425021;1387307208;dexX7;KRS-: my advise is to use the lows to buy more und relax, enjoy the journey and keep in mind that your goal right now should be to get as many coins as possible, not usd 425022;1387307380;KRS-;chatter around the net is 'final warning' http://i.imgur.com/BHtpTfx.png 425023;1387307436;dexX7;you'll the this damn picture again and again and again 425024;1387307459;TomServo;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jK-NcRmVcw 425025;1387307459;ozbot;Europe - The Final Countdown - YouTube 425026;1387307486;mircea_popescu;im still betting the us goes first. 425027;1387307554;KRS-;you are expecting it then 425028;1387307614;dexX7;like the us starts "banning" btc? 425029;1387307635;mircea_popescu;dexX7 no, like the us forms soup kitchen queues first. 425030;1387307680;dexX7;48 million americans already receive food stamps 425031;1387307693;dexX7;that's more than half germany :S 425032;1387307693;mircea_popescu;queues tho. queues means there's not enough to go around. 425033;1387307722;mircea_popescu;well technically, it means that people are hungry enough to queue and got nothing better to do with their time than queue. 425034;1387307727;mircea_popescu;powerlessness and hopelessness. 425035;1387307792;benkay;;;ticker 425036;1387307793;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 735.7145, Best ask: 736.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.28550, Last trade: 735.7145, 24 hour volume: 45932.13596275, 24 hour low: 678.8904, 24 hour high: 824.88888, 24 hour vwap: 736.32899 425037;1387307798;KRS-;and since this is turning out to be a bubble everyone's net worth will only be a fraction of what it was if you all didn't sell off your bitcoin 425038;1387307806;mike_c;that image is photoshopped. the price curve wasn't that smooth. 425039;1387307822;mircea_popescu;the image is also racist. 425040;1387307830;mike_c;yeah, white & black? bullshit. 425041;1387307835;dexX7;lol 425042;1387307838;davout;clear 425043;1387307847;mircea_popescu;esp because the black is used to represent the unknown. is the implicatiobn blacks can't write or don't have money ? 425044;1387307879;mircea_popescu;in case you're wondering, i've just written an article about painful underwear, and as a result read up some feminist blogs. that shit's such a self-parody... 425045;1387307887;mircea_popescu;just add water an' stir. froth guaranteed 425046;1387308011;mike_c;menthol? that is painful just to read. 425047;1387308083;nubbins`;i smoked menthols for years 425048;1387308095;nubbins`;reading that made me crave one 425049;1387308179;kakobrekla;menthol fags? arent those for kids? 425050;1387308208;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31800 @ 0.00089949 = 28.6038 BTC [-] {2} 425051;1387308610;mircea_popescu;mike_c there's this temple balm made by teh chinese 425052;1387308619;mircea_popescu;the household name is "cunt fortifier". 425053;1387308633;mike_c;it probably sounds even better in chinese 425054;1387308659;mircea_popescu;http://image.made-in-china.com/2f0j00PeHQLFpnHGrS/Essential-Balm-Temple-of-Heaven.jpg 425055;1387308661;mircea_popescu;this thing 425056;1387308685;mircea_popescu;basically parafin oil imbibated with camphor and methol to the point it's rusty brown 425057;1387308696;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17300 @ 0.00090368 = 15.6337 BTC [+] {2} 425058;1387308708;mike_c;and people buy this.. 425059;1387308717;mircea_popescu;it's great. 425060;1387309210;nubbins`;kakobrekla: not sure. they taste like nothing after a while anyway 425061;1387309217;dub;the brown is from ground cockroach and tigerpenis 425062;1387309339;mircea_popescu;lol doubt it, for what it costs. 425063;1387309359;BingoBoingo;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67547.msg4011380#msg4011380 425064;1387309361;ozbot;Starting a new FPGA mining farm/contract Cognitive Resurrected on[Havelock] 425065;1387309753;dub;continuing to place trust in that shitbag after the shill bidding revelation was pretty smart in the first place butt 425066;1387309844;mircea_popescu;herp. 425067;1387309849;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla is vindicated. 425068;1387309870;mircea_popescu;bless his evil soul or w/e the expression was 425069;1387309942;topace;[14:43:43] anyone here running a bot on havelock 425070;1387309943;topace;[14:43:47] new rate limiting is now in effect 425071;1387309943;topace;[14:43:58] there was a few people not playing nice 425072;1387309943;topace;[14:43:59] so i had no choice 425073;1387309943;topace;[14:44:25] one bot was doing 3000 requests per 600 seconds (5 per second!) 425074;1387309943;topace;[14:44:33] the limit is now 600 per 600 seconds 425075;1387309943;topace;[14:44:48] aka 1 per second, over the past 10 minutes 425076;1387309944;topace;[14:45:02] * subject to chnage of course 425077;1387310012;topace;all responses also now contain an 'apirate' parameter, which, the entire time i was code, read as "api rate", but just as i finished, i looked back and went "yarrrrrrrrr a pirate!" 425078;1387310095;kakobrekla;i belive it was slanderous soul, as dully noted in the feedback shrani.si/f/z/L3/oFmb4zW/trust.png 425079;1387310099;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 560 @ 0.001 = 0.56 BTC 425080;1387310102;mircea_popescu;a that yeah. 425081;1387310117;kakobrekla;dunno how he risked 500 btc with me though 425082;1387310124;kakobrekla;must be high or something 425083;1387310160;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.04499999 = 0.27 BTC [+] {2} 425084;1387310564;ThickAsThieves;his comment on mine says "Left Illegitimate feedback. Please remove and I will do the same." 425085;1387310579;ThickAsThieves;so i left him a second negrating 425086;1387310583;mircea_popescu;lol 425087;1387310588;mircea_popescu;you can do multiple ? 425088;1387310591;ThickAsThieves;yeah 425089;1387310598;kakobrekla;meh, sheep will be sheep 425090;1387310706;dub;tbh if 16 and not high sometimes you're doing it wrong 425091;1387311336;BingoBoingo;If only scammer tags were still a thing 425092;1387311336;BingoBoingo;http://bitbet.us/bet/314/bitcointalk-org-treasurer-to-be-scammer-tagged/ 425093;1387311338;ozbot;BitBet - Bitcointalk.org treasurer to be scammer tagged 425094;1387312234;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20900 @ 0.00090061 = 18.8227 BTC [-] {2} 425095;1387312295;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11600 @ 0.00090424 = 10.4892 BTC [+] 425096;1387312417;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 245 @ 0.00297655 = 0.7293 BTC [+] {8} 425097;1387312651;mircea_popescu;sucks huh 425098;1387312809;BingoBoingo;Eh, who know. Funny how Garr seems to have the allegiance of both Thermos and Goat though 425099;1387312844;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 30000 @ 0.001 = 30 BTC 425100;1387312851;mircea_popescu;there's not many scams goat hasn't shilled, starting with pirate. 425101;1387312857;mircea_popescu;there's however no legitimate business he ever pushed. 425102;1387312861;mircea_popescu;pretty decent predictor. 425103;1387312879;jcpham;rofl fact 425104;1387312905;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 10000 @ 0.001 = 10 BTC 425105;1387312942;mircea_popescu;http://bitbet.us/bet/621/any-altcoin-will-surpass-litecoin-in-market-capitalization/#c2105 lol 425106;1387312943;ozbot;BitBet - Any altcoin will surpass Litecoin in market capitalization 425107;1387313028;jborkl;I was looking through the forum donators list today 425108;1387313040;jborkl;also a good predictor 425109;1387313121;jborkl;I looked to see what happened to our good buddy Ripple, it is now a donate your spare computing power to help the planet 425110;1387313173;mircea_popescu;it is yeah. 425111;1387313197;davout;hah it's for real 425112;1387313198;mircea_popescu;for a while there mid 2012 the scammer mo was pretty much theswede's : make acct, donate, post 2k posts and buy some old accts. 425113;1387313393;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 65381 @ 0.001 = 65.381 BTC 425114;1387313562;BingoBoingo;;;asks 1000 425115;1387313564;gribble;There are currently 12463.257 bitcoins offered at or under 1000.0 USD, worth 10980943.0123 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0790 seconds 425116;1387313637;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 201 @ 0.003 = 0.603 BTC [+] {2} 425117;1387313638;BingoBoingo;;;asks 2500 425118;1387313638;gribble;There are currently 35298.499 bitcoins offered at or under 2500.0 USD, worth 40994299.675 USD in total. | Data vintage: 71.9605 seconds 425119;1387313805;BingoBoingo;;;asks 10000 425120;1387313805;gribble;There are currently 36323.35 bitcoins offered at or under 10000.0 USD, worth 46115259.7283 USD in total. | Data vintage: 239.6925 seconds 425121;1387313881;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 38 @ 0.003 = 0.114 BTC [+] 425122;1387313942;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.262 BTC [+] 425123;1387313943;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.0009048 = 11.9434 BTC [+] {2} 425124;1387314453;Namworld;;;bids 1 425125;1387314455;gribble;There are currently 235083.49 bitcoins demanded at or over 1.0 USD, worth 30049576.4399 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0680 seconds 425126;1387316565;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 10 @ 0.09951099 = 0.9951 BTC [+] {4} 425127;1387317236;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.0466 = 0.2796 BTC [+] 425128;1387317480;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14350 @ 0.00090263 = 12.9527 BTC [-] 425129;1387317897;pankkake;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=375010.0 Bernankoin: the Coin to save our economy 425130;1387317899;ozbot;[ANN] Bernankoin: the Coin to save our economy - IMPOSSIBLE TO PREMINE 425131;1387318109;benkay;nice 425132;1387318285;pankkake;I know very little about maths in C++ so I failed to make a smoother QE :( 425133;1387318306;jurov;lol that essential balm.. our family uses vietnamese one, in the same case 425134;1387318325;jurov;i even found original case from the 80s with prospect 425135;1387318333;jurov;and it literally said 425136;1387318346;jurov;"in case of epidemy, apply to nostrils" 425137;1387318492;mircea_popescu;lol 425138;1387318512;mircea_popescu;mine said "in case of uppity woman, apply to cunt lips". 425139;1387318515;mircea_popescu;perhaps a misprint. 425140;1387318562;jurov;Contraindication: Vagostabyl 425141;1387318578;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00090296 = 5.0566 BTC [+] 425142;1387318621;mircea_popescu;lol] 425143;1387318810;dub;pankkake: ohhh I understand nothing of document 425144;1387318815;dub;:( 425145;1387318835;dub;bitcoin meme #4080 425146;1387318838;pankkake;half don't geet the joke 425147;1387318851;pankkake;not sure how I could make it obviouser 425148;1387318903;Vexual;pankakke: how to print with pixma 4700?!?!?! I can't get drivers working, please help! 425149;1387318960;KRS-;what happened to /dtng/ 425150;1387318987;pankkake;people really are mining this thing! 425151;1387319039;Vexual;return on ink? 425152;1387319054;dub;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=375076.0 425153;1387319055;davout;pankkake: this is impressive 425154;1387319056;ozbot;ApeCoin - Day 2, needs pools. 425155;1387319073;dub;Has 3 posts and his own altcoin, legitness 425156;1387319076;pankkake;not really, you haven't see me fail to understand how numbers work in C++ :/ 425157;1387319083;dub;need an exchange guise 425158;1387319091;davout;you know how to count up to two ? 425159;1387319096;davout;that's already too much 425160;1387319099;pankkake;it has a subreddit! 425161;1387319112;davout;how legit 425162;1387319127;benkay;much coin 425163;1387319128;pankkake;it has binaries and css 425164;1387319162;davout;http://i.imgur.com/XRS4QRU.png 425165;1387319172;davout;"hello boyz, appreciate the pitch, gtfo" 425166;1387319202;davout;blow stamps, not for beer yet 425167;1387319215;pankkake;heineken doesn't sell directly to customers right? 425168;1387319252;pankkake;though the mention of bitcoin could be just for the hype 425169;1387319271;davout;like george says: "what else" 425170;1387320000;benkay;;;ticker --market btcavg 425171;1387320001;gribble;BitcoinAverage BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 677.4, Best ask: 679.85, Bid-ask spread: 2.45000, Last trade: 679.26, 24 hour volume: 142858.79, 24 hour low: None, 24 hour high: None, 24 hour vwap: 693.39 425172;1387320042;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 50000 @ 0.001 = 50 BTC 425173;1387320835;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7750 @ 0.00090141 = 6.9859 BTC [-] {2} 425174;1387321140;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59100 @ 0.00089972 = 53.1735 BTC [-] {5} 425175;1387322482;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18350 @ 0.00090332 = 16.5759 BTC [+] {2} 425176;1387322667;thestringpuller;;;seen jurov 425177;1387322667;gribble;jurov was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 hour, 1 minute, and 59 seconds ago: * jurov pays pankkake to troll vexual 425178;1387322726;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.00090086 = 11.9814 BTC [-] 425179;1387322761;davout;X.EUR Y U NO TRADE? 425180;1387322849;pizzaman1337;just to confirm, you can't "create" X.EUR contracts and sell them, right? 425181;1387322885;dub;that heiny thing could be big 425182;1387322922;dub;they could basically force btc pos acceptance at 50% of the worlds bars 425183;1387322925;davout;pizzaman1337: no 425184;1387322926;mircea_popescu;pizzaman1337 you gotta talk to davout, deliver euros to him 425185;1387322955;davout;or hot teens, depending on the offered rate 425186;1387322964;mircea_popescu;lol 425187;1387322982;mircea_popescu;weren't you married ? 425188;1387323013;davout;if you have EUR on a bitcoin-central.net you can exchange them for X.EUR on MPEx 1/1 for the time being 425189;1387323020;davout;not yet 425190;1387323027;davout;but anyway, marriage is when the fun begins 425191;1387323046;davout;what's the point of being wealthy if it's not to own a garçonnière 425192;1387323049;mircea_popescu;so then you can make your own hot teens 425193;1387323052;pizzaman1337;will there be a UI for that at some point? 425194;1387323059;davout;pizzaman1337: for? 425195;1387323068;davout;BC EUR 2 X.EUR ? 425196;1387323073;pizzaman1337;both making your own hot teens, and for what you just mentioned 425197;1387323083;davout;mircea_popescu: i already have one and she's a lot of work 425198;1387323113;mircea_popescu;pizzaman1337 i suppose the idea is for this to remain mostly a large player thing, so no, probably no ui. 425199;1387323115;pizzaman1337;because, unless I'm understanding this incorrectly, when you buy X.EUR you're basically going long EUR 425200;1387323120;mircea_popescu;it's not for turning 10 eur into10 x.eur 425201;1387323144;mircea_popescu;then again maybe that's just me being a stick in the mud blocking progress 425202;1387323197;pizzaman1337;I mean, unless the options bot has tighter spreads... this could be a good option for going long BTC 425203;1387323226;davout;if you want to go long BTC i suppose the easiest is to buy BTC on bitcoin-central.net directly 425204;1387323251;pizzaman1337;yeah; I guess you're not getting any extra leverage by buying here 425205;1387323281;davout;the way i see it this contract has a couple main benefits 425206;1387323292;thestringpuller;asdasdas sasfasd as dasd asf dgdsfg23 425207;1387323303;davout;it brings BC moar volume, and mixes liquidity with mpex 425208;1387323325;davout;and it enables any party to actually trade the EUR without having an account at a regulated exchange 425209;1387323371;davout;didn't really think about leverage either 425210;1387323398;davout;but without really thinking about it at all i'd assume you'd be better served with options if what you want is leverage 425211;1387323433;pizzaman1337;in theory, options are great 425212;1387323437;pizzaman1337;but it requires good market making too 425213;1387323437;benkay;options on x.eur ;) 425214;1387323449;mircea_popescu;lol 425215;1387323474;mircea_popescu;i'd allow an option on the future just for the hell of it if someone signed some serious mm ing commitment 425216;1387323479;davout;hah i'm educating myself on derivatives 425217;1387323504;davout;i opened the last pages of the book i'm reading and fell in shock discovering about options on options 425218;1387323529;davout;i quickly went back to the some-farmer-sells-wheat-for-june 425219;1387323532;mircea_popescu;lol 425220;1387323533;davout;examples 425221;1387323544;pizzaman1337;classic 425222;1387323545;mircea_popescu;finance is an infinitely complex topic. 425223;1387323545;benkay;yo dawg i herd u liek risk 425224;1387323546;pankkake;yo dawg, i heard you really like options 425225;1387323552;davout;LOL 425226;1387323572;benkay;so i wrote some options on options so you can leverage while you leverage 425227;1387323946;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11400 @ 0.0009013 = 10.2748 BTC [+] 425228;1387324617;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17750 @ 0.00090396 = 16.0453 BTC [+] {3} 425229;1387324738;pizzaman1337;so mpex-mktdepth.php doesn't return the order books sorted by price? that's a bummer... 425230;1387324774;benkay;welcome to the mpex apis 425231;1387324780;benkay;data is there 425232;1387324787;benkay;go earn thy keep, programmer. 425233;1387325071;pizzaman1337;I mean, it's one line in python, but still... 425234;1387325088;benkay;see? 425235;1387325267;mircea_popescu;still waht lol 425236;1387325285;pizzaman1337;I'm still lazy 425237;1387325315;mircea_popescu;it's just a phase :D 425238;1387325528;pizzaman1337;so someday you'll sort them for us? ;) 425239;1387325584;mircea_popescu;no no, your laziness is a phase 425240;1387325602;pankkake;the day I discovered I could get away with being lazy, I never stopped 425241;1387325603;jurov;lol pizzaman1337 425242;1387325616;jurov;pankkake: exactly 425243;1387326117;dub;226p 30000w 425244;1387326129;dub;kill me 425245;1387326192;truffles;? 425246;1387326327;dub;gonna have to scan this thing for random troll outbursts and links from mp too 425247;1387326344;dub;window focus is hard 425248;1387326768;jurov;imagine you're the historian that got the task of analyzing the logs 425249;1387326815;jurov;then you'll fell better that you have only to read them 425250;1387326869;truffles;jcpham ure guilty ldo 425251;1387326888;truffles;chat historian 425252;1387326890;truffles;awesome 425253;1387326893;jcpham;that's offensive and ignorant to say 425254;1387326905;truffles;lol ok 425255;1387326906;jcpham;but w/e 425256;1387326926;pizzaman1337;so basically, you trade X.EUR if you want to sell BTC, but stay denominated in BTC, not on a traditional exchange, and with 40 EUR spread. Seems mostly like a promotion for B-C to me? 425257;1387327082;mircea_popescu;i knew i'm not getting paid enough to dfo this. 425258;1387327204;BingoBoingo;pizzaman1337: Or sell BTC to be delivered by Jurov, in a suitcase 425259;1387327255;jurov;pizzaman1337: i'd wait for davout and ask him 425260;1387327268;jurov;i just gave him http://exterface.com/unicorn/ so he's busy atm 425261;1387327418;pizzaman1337;mircea_popescu: it wasn't clear if you were getting paid at all 425262;1387327541;nubbins`;http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/pamela-anderson-simpsons-sam-simon-offer-cash-to-sealers-1.2467207 425263;1387327544;ozbot;Pamela Anderson, Simpsons' Sam Simon offer cash to sealers - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News 425264;1387327638;truffles;omg at that link jurov 425265;1387327927;dub;save the moosecock eh 425266;1387328216;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00090573 = 9.963 BTC [+] 425267;1387328216;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.0465 = 0.93 BTC [-] 425268;1387328277;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.0466 = 0.5126 BTC [+] 425269;1387329192;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00090336 = 2.5294 BTC [-] 425270;1387331937;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 42 @ 0.06809629 = 2.86 BTC [-] {13} 425271;1387331998;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 13 @ 0.06009386 = 0.7812 BTC [-] {3} 425272;1387332059;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.046689 = 0.607 BTC [+] 425273;1387332120;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.02306198 = 0.2306 BTC [+] {5} 425274;1387332303;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 42 @ 0.00280001 = 0.1176 BTC [+] {2} 425275;1387333279;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13250 @ 0.00090336 = 11.9695 BTC [-] {3} 425276;1387333890;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17600 @ 0.00090108 = 15.859 BTC [-] {3} 425277;1387334194;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 4457 @ 0.00295305 = 13.1617 BTC [-] {8} 425278;1387334277;Bugpowder;Anyone know how Second Market's assets under management jumped $20MM today? 425279;1387334297;Bugpowder;no coins coming into their receiving address 425280;1387334845;ThickAsThieves;have you asked them? 425281;1387335231;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8970 @ 0.00090106 = 8.0825 BTC [-] 425282;1387335652;Bugpowder;nope 425283;1387335654;Bugpowder;http://i.imgur.com/IxDHLMy.png 425284;1387336158;Bugpowder;https://www.secondmarket.com/company/bitcoin-investment-trust 425285;1387336159;ozbot;Bitcoin Investment Trust - SecondMarket 425286;1387336160;Bugpowder;nevermind 425287;1387336246;amidvidy;so what features would you want in a p2p colored coin exchange? 425288;1387336314;BingoBoingo;amidvidy: Non-existence would be a great property to have 425289;1387336346;ThickAsThieves;the ability to scam ofc 425290;1387336347;BingoBoingo;Being built on the Dogecoin blockchain might be an acceptable alternative though 425291;1387336512;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 771 @ 0.0029 = 2.2359 BTC [+] {2} 425292;1387336513;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.2639 = 0.5278 BTC [+] 425293;1387336587;mircea_popescu;Bugpowder -25% last week ? 425294;1387336619;mircea_popescu;amidvidy http://trilema.com/2013/why-i-nixed-p2p-colored-coins-and-all-that-jazz/ << can always start there 425295;1387336634;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.26499999 = 0.53 BTC [+] {2} 425296;1387336675;mircea_popescu;"I am Barrister Prince Paul Adeola a solicitor at law." << 425297;1387336716;mircea_popescu;eigenvalue hello. 425298;1387336798;amidvidy;mircea_popescu: interesting, but I disagree. 425299;1387336806;mircea_popescu;how old are you ? 425300;1387336817;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13209 @ 0.00090591 = 11.9662 BTC [+] 425301;1387336834;amidvidy;21 425302;1387336852;amidvidy;not really sure why that matters though. 425303;1387336865;mircea_popescu;at that age you don't get to disagree. 425304;1387336872;Vexual;:) 425305;1387336890;mircea_popescu;it matters like this : twenty somethings don't have enough experience wiping their own bottom to opine on matters financial. 425306;1387336891;asciilifeform;disagree with: that barrister prince paul adeola is a solicitor at law? 425307;1387336902;Vexual;you might have got some coloured words if you were older 425308;1387336918;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform he was so close might have gone for areola. no courage in the spam business these days 425309;1387337085;amidvidy;wow, that is pretty persuasive. Regardless, I've been designing a Kademlia based exchange, with support for market and limit orders. 425310;1387337119;Vexual;make a time machine and tell your womb to avoid mobile phones 425311;1387337243;truffles;silly rabbit men dont have wombs 425312;1387337259;mircea_popescu;so have a bunch of other kids. it never goes anywhere, for the stated reasons. 425313;1387337268;mircea_popescu;but i guess most need to learn from their own experience. 425314;1387337347;amidvidy;agreed. Even if nobody ever uses it, it's an interesting technical exercise 425315;1387337414;amidvidy;but i think there is a legitimate demand due to the takedown of sites like bitfunder, btctco, glbse, etc. 425316;1387337453;BingoBoingo;amidvidy: In most of those cases it wasn't so much a takedown as they surrended... 425317;1387337514;mircea_popescu;you misjudge both what happened there and what that leads to. 425318;1387337534;amidvidy;care to elaborate? 425319;1387337567;mircea_popescu;the takedown of the playsites is related to people making your mistakes (ie, brash notions of youth). it's unrelated to anything that can be resolved technologically. 425320;1387337579;mircea_popescu;havelock is in the process of fuicking itself in the ass exactly the same way right now./ 425321;1387337610;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 150 @ 0.001 = 0.15 BTC 425322;1387337637;Vexual;he has no beard to stoke 425323;1387337651;BingoBoingo;Remember when Havelock was just that weird little site than only wanted to trade a SatoshiDice Passthrough. 425324;1387337744;amidvidy;I guess I believe that the problem *can* be solved technologically. Just as bitcoin was a better technological solution than say, the Liberty Dollar 425325;1387337767;amidvidy;or egold, etc. 425326;1387337791;mircea_popescu;you form beliefs about how a problem can be solved without having bothered to define it ;/ 425327;1387337839;BingoBoingo;amidvidy: Bitcoin largely solves the problem of how to have a distributed ledger of accounts, this is very different from breaking up and distributing a whole exchange 425328;1387337879;Bugpowder;it was a typo it seams 425329;1387337889;amidvidy;BingoBoingo: it was an analogy. 425330;1387337936;amidvidy;The nice thing about a distributed exchange is that an actor can still behave correctly in the presence of partial information, unlike bitcoin 425331;1387338035;amidvidy;which is why a successful colored coin trading network will be multitier. Tier 1 will contain high-volume "supernodes", similar to MPex, that provide low latency at the cost of some anonymity 425332;1387338046;mircea_popescu;here's an analogy for you : suppose you're in love, with this luscious young thing. can you see why the device which speeds up her arrival to your current position is great, whereas the device which speeds up your ejaculation once she's reached you is not great ? 425333;1387338069;amidvidy;Tier 2 will be completely p2p, and trades will be high latency 425334;1387338111;Vexual;http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mefyda5U931r3mxnxo1_1280.jpg time machine 425335;1387338269;asciilifeform;amidvidy, you would probably like my old crackpot commentary on btc systems: 425336;1387338270;asciilifeform;http://www.loper-os.org/?p=939 425337;1387338272;ozbot;Loper OS » Bitcoin, or How to Hammer in Nails with a Microscope. 425338;1387338323;mircea_popescu;back when stan thought btc kinda sucks. 425339;1387338349;asciilifeform;well, to be fair, the thing i declared to suck - the lamers - continue to suck mightily. 425340;1387338358;mircea_popescu;aye. 425341;1387338372;mircea_popescu;they could suck a planet throught a gardenhose. 425342;1387338443;asciilifeform;and i stand by my hypothesis, that a p2p whatever might be interesting and useful, if not a replacement for any currently-existing widget as such 425343;1387338447;mircea_popescu;supernodes eh. amidvidy are you also new to bitcoin enough to not have been exposed to the adventures of uppity tortilla ? 425344;1387338452;asciilifeform;but it would have to be written by something other than muppets. 425345;1387338486;mircea_popescu;you're not gonna get the decentralised market that's trustless any more than you're going to get the two dimensional dildo that cures aging 425346;1387338528;Vexual;dig? 425347;1387338594;mircea_popescu;currencies naturally tend to decentralise, which is why things like forgers. markets always and since forever centralise. tis what they do and not distinct from their actual utility. 425348;1387338616;truffles;who wouldve thought that 1 up, dildo's and aging 425349;1387338685;amidvidy;asciilifeform: I think I agree with you at a high level, that may be useless to try to reconstruct btc-based analogs of traditional institutions. That said, I think a p2p exchange could be useful 425350;1387338749;amidvidy;the NYSE isn't going anywhere anytime soon 425351;1387338791;Vexual;define soon 425352;1387338833;amidvidy;10 years 425353;1387339026;Vexual;u give mpex 10 years too? 425354;1387339088;amidvidy;probably not. 425355;1387339125;mircea_popescu;pity bitbet doesn't take 10 years. 425356;1387339167;mircea_popescu;.d 425357;1387339167;ozbot;908350862.43702 | Next Diff in 638 blocks | Estimated Change: 26.4775% in 3d 5h 54m 27s 425358;1387339379;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3000 @ 0.00012388 = 0.3716 BTC [+] 425359;1387339407;truffles;asciilifeform if thats ur blog u write well, obv cant read it in on sitting 425360;1387339440;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1137 @ 0.00012387 = 0.1408 BTC [-] 425361;1387339538;Vexual;i also salute tou ascii 425362;1387339562;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14850 @ 0.00090608 = 13.4553 BTC [+] {2} 425363;1387339594;asciilifeform;that piece was long ago, i'm no longer convinced that everything absolutely must be blockchain-based. 425364;1387339622;asciilifeform;just as not every vehicle needs Chobham armour. 425365;1387339643;Vexual;yes no date.. 425366;1387339668;amidvidy;asciilifeform: have you heard of tonika (http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/~petar/5ttt.org/) ? Thought of it when I read the part of your article about building systems that incorporate trust 425367;1387339720;asciilifeform;thought 'this sounds like kademlia', then read to the end. 425368;1387339777;amidvidy;The author also wrote kademlia, this is his effort to design a DHT that is resistant to Sybil attacks 425369;1387339921;asciilifeform;amidvidy: this fact is not 'sexy', but it takes quite a bit of work to go from algo to usable software. (why this happens to be so, is largely the subject of my blog) 425370;1387340052;amidvidy;a recent systems course I took hammered that point in quite hard by having us read Google's "Paxos Made Live" paper 425371;1387340135;asciilifeform;what they won't teach you is that all of this crap can be made to vanish. 425372;1387340142;asciilifeform;but i digress. 425373;1387340297;Vexual;are you taking critical thinking too? 425374;1387340523;Vexual;i attended a lecture once, asked 3 questions; stack overflow 425375;1387340568;amidvidy;I use stack overflow for all my critical thinking needs 425376;1387340612;amidvidy;as Immanuel Kant once said, if the answer isn't googleable, the question isn't worth asking 425377;1387340629;truffles;... 425378;1387340682;truffles;i feel like google is broken, i get relevant stuff at page buttom 425379;1387340783;Vexual;i even sued a law school i wasn't enrolled in for wasting my time and they settled 425380;1387341026;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.26599 = 0.532 BTC [+] 425381;1387341669;Vexual;so kid, can you take trustlesness off the chain? 425382;1387341697;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.26599 = 1.064 BTC [+] 425383;1387342614;Vexual;http://vimeo.com/29785190 425384;1387342614;ozbot;Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues on Vimeo 425385;1387342734;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7053 @ 0.00090612 = 6.3909 BTC [+] {2} 425386;1387342802;truffles;not bad 425387;1387342952;Vexual;y want hay goat? 425388;1387343048;truffles;goat doesnt seem to chat here anymoar 425389;1387343207;jborkl;Too busy buying Lamborghini s 425390;1387343224;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFtLONl4cNc 425391;1387343224;ozbot;Musical Youth Pass the Dutchie - YouTube 425392;1387343325;truffles;dunno how i feel about this one 425393;1387343331;truffles;its not bad not stellar 425394;1387343587;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdshuUvatzs 425395;1387343588;ozbot;Baby Sea Lion Wants To Be My Friend - YouTube 425396;1387344138;Vexual;yall didnt even know you were lookinmg forward to something 425397;1387344208;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSAd3NpDi6Q 425398;1387344209;ozbot;Handel - Sarabande - YouTube 425399;1387344259;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 18 @ 0.046689 = 0.8404 BTC [+] 425400;1387344300;fiat500;Vexual: how many are you? 425401;1387344320;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.04669 = 0.6537 BTC [+] 425402;1387344324;Vexual;uno 425403;1387344503;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.266 BTC [+] 425404;1387344513;truffles;asciilifeform those methods u desribe are what i thought bitcoin would be, not more of the same.. 425405;1387344686;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.271 = 0.542 BTC [+] 425406;1387344782;Vexual;lamborghini is better than ferrari beacuase they havew blind tractor mechanics as old as the hills working by ear 425407;1387344822;nubbins`;i hear men with suits flay the calves each day for the seat leather 425408;1387344852;nubbins`;and they're paid so well that they just throw out their bloody suit at the end of their shift 425409;1387344861;Vexual;cant have thw boys do it 425410;1387344861;nubbins`;and wear a new one the next day 425411;1387344930;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 5 @ 0.042 = 0.21 BTC [+] 425412;1387344939;Vexual;those guys can see the seat as they skin a thick swathe 425413;1387344987;nubbins`;contours and scallops 425414;1387345014;nubbins`;the bodies gently tapped into shape with peening hammers 425415;1387345032;Vexual;thats why i dont own a lamborghini 425416;1387345053;truffles;not cuz its too expensive? 425417;1387345063;Vexual;good point truffles 425418;1387345084;nubbins`;it can be more than one thing 425419;1387345094;Vexual;it is 425420;1387345098;Vexual;theres a third 425421;1387345103;nubbins`;! 425422;1387345108;Vexual;trees 425423;1387345112;Vexual;people and shit 425424;1387345113;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8368 @ 0.00090475 = 7.5709 BTC [-] {2} 425425;1387345160;Vexual;give me a motorcycle any day 425426;1387345181;Vexual;not if drunk 425427;1387345230;Vexual;but if you want to go fast a motorcycle is the only way 425428;1387345235;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16592 @ 0.00090627 = 15.0368 BTC [+] {2} 425429;1387345278;Vexual;well if you like a fine audial note, look to akwasaki 425430;1387345299;Vexual;no artisan mechanic required 425431;1387345344;benkay;sounds like an emotional decision. 425432;1387345372;truffles;.. 425433;1387345416;Vexual;if you want to hide in the fog of war so noone hears you coming, buy a honda 425434;1387345533;Vexual;hers the agm: looks cool check abs check hows it sound? ah soh? 425435;1387345562;truffles;more classical music 425436;1387345613;Vexual;honda minimises red and brown 425437;1387345627;Vexual;kawasaki maximises brown disregarding red 425438;1387345822;Vexual;where brown and red are effectively implied likelyhood for poo and blood respectivly respectively to be excreted by the rider. 425439;1387345927;Vexual;attend meetings and solve for yamaha and suzuki 425440;1387346012;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcL---4xQYA 425441;1387346013;ozbot;Led Zeppelin - Stairway To Heaven - YouTube 425442;1387346034;Vexual;this is classical by automotive standards 425443;1387346037;truffles;classic != classical 425444;1387346089;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.272 BTC [+] 425445;1387346163;Vexual;id probably have the altitude record for a motorcycle crash with no injury 425446;1387346577;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18900 @ 0.000905 = 17.1045 BTC [-] {2} 425447;1387346760;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 130 @ 0.00295996 = 0.3848 BTC [+] {5} 425448;1387346895;chsados;whos the dude who handles bitbet.us here? 425449;1387346943;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15600 @ 0.00090248 = 14.0787 BTC [-] {3} 425450;1387346976;chsados;mircea_popescu, afk? 425451;1387346981;chsados;i did this bet 18-12-2013 Pending BTCChina Will Cease All Fiat Methods of Funding 425452;1387346987;chsados;before this freaking announcement 425453;1387346995;chsados;i hope i dont get funds taken :( 425454;1387347197;kakobreklaaa;is your tx in the bets table? 425455;1387347811;chsados;no it hasnt been accepted 425456;1387348162;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izH0P2rSPnQ he benakke 425457;1387348163;ozbot;Balinese Suckling Pig (Babi Guling), Travel Video Guide - YouTube 425458;1387348529;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00090728 = 1.996 BTC [+] 425459;1387348712;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.272 BTC [+] 425460;1387349078;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12448 @ 0.00090237 = 11.2327 BTC [-] {2} 425461;1387349267;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QHJRTPDMxs 425462;1387349268;ozbot;L-FRESH The LION - One - YouTube 425463;1387349322;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 46 @ 0.27489013 = 12.6449 BTC [+] {7} 425464;1387349427;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pImWbM8yii8 425465;1387349428;ozbot;Busta Rhymes - Thank You Ft. Q Tip, Lil Wayne & Kanye West (Lyrics) - YouTube 425466;1387349444;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7550 @ 0.00090731 = 6.8502 BTC [+] {2} 425467;1387349677;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poLJLqAh5dY 425468;1387349678;ozbot;Suburban Dark ft. Jeswon - Skeletonne - YouTube 425469;1387349946;kakobreklaaa;chsados, if its not in the table and the bet is closed already on bbet, you re 425470;1387349949;kakobreklaaa;a 425471;1387349955;kakobreklaaa;-a 425472;1387349958;kakobreklaaa;out of luck 425473;1387349970;kakobreklaaa;sry typing over 3 keyboards 425474;1387350369;Apocalyptic;it amazes me to see people betting in the last minutes, gambling with the next block time 425475;1387350542;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00090755 = 9.1663 BTC [+] {2} 425476;1387350761;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tJXjt5D4zY 425477;1387350761;ozbot;ill never smoke weed with willie again. - YouTube 425478;1387350923;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFaMY6SAGOw 425479;1387350923;ozbot;Folk Uke I Miss My Boyfriend - YouTube 425480;1387350965;chsados;serously kakobrekla ..... 425481;1387351127;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxlyHFwq_zs 425482;1387351127;ozbot;ARLO GUTHRIE _ MOTOR CYCLE SONG. - YouTube 425483;1387351396;assbot;[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 100 @ 0.00199998 = 0.2 BTC 425484;1387351613;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAz-Chkb4Q4 here you go kids 425485;1387351613;ozbot;Triumph Engine Rebuild with Kog (Preview) - YouTube 425486;1387351701;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.043 = 0.258 BTC [-] 425487;1387351814;davout;yay ---> <@assbot> [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 100 @ 0.00199998 = 0.2 BTC 425488;1387351825;davout;amazing future 425489;1387351825;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 425490;1387352124;benkay;amazing eu-ture 425491;1387352124;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 425492;1387352160;benkay;;;market --ticker eurbtc 425493;1387352161;gribble;(market ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market |all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Mtgox. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure the (1 more message) 425494;1387352164;benkay;daww 425495;1387352372;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00090778 = 9.2594 BTC [+] {2} 425496;1387353409;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16136 @ 0.00090786 = 14.6492 BTC [+] {2} 425497;1387354068;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2at-fdeopY 425498;1387354068;ozbot;Butterfingers - I Love Work - YouTube 425499;1387354629;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19049 @ 0.00090431 = 17.2262 BTC [-] {2} 425500;1387355117;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 2561 @ 0.00045357 = 1.1616 BTC [-] {18} 425501;1387356154;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.28000001 BTC [+] 425502;1387356212;cazalla;should've taken that under 450 bet, looking good now 425503;1387356215;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.28000001 BTC [+] 425504;1387356947;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5850 @ 0.00090108 = 5.2713 BTC [-] 425505;1387357618;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 39 @ 0.00295799 = 0.1154 BTC [-] {3} 425506;1387357740;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 468 @ 0.002958 = 1.3843 BTC [+] 425507;1387358163;chsados;kakobrekla, it got accepted :D http://bitbet.us/bet/670/btcchina-will-cease-fiat-deposits-and-withdrawals/ 425508;1387358228;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.29493332 = 0.8848 BTC [+] {3} 425509;1387358960;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 200 @ 0.04835389 = 9.6708 BTC [+] {5} 425510;1387359021;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.0494 = 0.2964 BTC [+] 425511;1387360607;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1756 @ 0.0028234 = 4.9579 BTC [-] {7} 425512;1387361034;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.280109 = 2.8011 BTC [-] {3} 425513;1387361095;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 22 @ 0.27006772 = 5.9415 BTC [-] {6} 425514;1387361156;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 24 @ 0.26599 = 6.3838 BTC [-] 425515;1387361766;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10550 @ 0.00090587 = 9.5569 BTC [+] {2} 425516;1387362010;assbot;[MPEX] [O] [O.USD.P095T] 5 @ 0.06 = 0.3 BTC [+] 425517;1387362105;Namworld;I've got the most stupid issue ever... 425518;1387362198;kakobreklaaa;lemme take a guess, lost pgp key 425519;1387362254;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 75 @ 0.0494 = 3.705 BTC [+] 425520;1387362544;Namworld;No. You know how faint noises fades out after a while even if still there, even if irregular/clicking noise/etc? 425521;1387362650;Namworld;I got a new electronic thermostat and the heater in the room makes a faint but very strident noise. The problem is the new thermostat alternates the heater on/off every 5 seconds. Not often enough or infrequently enough to fade off to not notice it. 425522;1387362702;Namworld;It's completly keeping me from sleeping. I'll have to turn it off. 425523;1387362717;Duffer1;that sounds incredibly annoying 425524;1387362763;Namworld;If it stayed on then off every 5-10 minutes... okay... 425525;1387362797;Namworld;But "pfizzzzzzzzzzzzzzz ......................" cycle every 10 seconds just seems impossible to ignore. 425526;1387362856;Namworld;It doesn't fade into background noise since it doesn't last long enough. And it doesn't alternates often enough to appear as a single noise. 425527;1387362898;Namworld;On the upside, the temperature has never been this stable! 425528;1387362937;Namworld;That's a very retarded issue tho... 425529;1387365243;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 45 @ 0.00283002 = 0.1274 BTC [+] {3} 425530;1387365359;taub_;we crash mode now 425531;1387365366;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 200 @ 0.0494 = 9.88 BTC [+] 425532;1387365670;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.266 BTC [+] 425533;1387365731;assbot;[MPEX] [O] [O.USD.P050T] 326 @ 0.02773246 = 9.0408 BTC [-] 425534;1387366481;pankkake;lol litecoin at 0.026. so much for an hedge 425535;1387367378;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.0009079 = 7.5356 BTC [+] {2} 425536;1387367912;taub_;it's a bubble on a bubble 425537;1387367916;taub_;ofc it doesn't work out =D 425538;1387368232;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.0009046 = 9.3174 BTC [-] {2} 425539;1387370855;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10850 @ 0.00090792 = 9.8509 BTC [+] 425540;1387371757;TomServo;;;bc,stats 425541;1387371759;gribble;Current Blocks: 275629 | Current Difficulty: 9.08350862437022E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 276191 | Next Difficulty In: 562 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 16 hours, 32 minutes, and 9 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 1153681844.7 | Estimated Percent Change: 27.00839 425542;1387372608;deadweasel;;;ticker 425543;1387372608;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 539.85698, Best ask: 539.99999, Bid-ask spread: 0.14301, Last trade: 539.99999, 24 hour volume: 84357.41292489, 24 hour low: 455.0, 24 hour high: 750.3614, 24 hour vwap: 569.87917 425544;1387373234;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5050 @ 0.00090564 = 4.5735 BTC [-] 425545;1387373722;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 800 @ 0.001 = 0.8 BTC 425546;1387373950;pankkake;27% change? :| not even close 425547;1387373963;pankkake;;;ticker --market btcavg 425548;1387373964;gribble;BitcoinAverage BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 525.17, Best ask: 527.3, Bid-ask spread: 2.13000, Last trade: 526.98, 24 hour volume: 326672.18, 24 hour low: None, 24 hour high: None, 24 hour vwap: 625.91 425549;1387374393;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 425 @ 0.00090442 = 0.3844 BTC [-] 425550;1387374795;taub_;i hope this is the lower range 425551;1387374801;taub_;if not, 250 here we come 425552;1387375918;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00090424 = 4.8829 BTC [-] 425553;1387376101;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11950 @ 0.00090435 = 10.807 BTC [+] 425554;1387376346;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.266 BTC [+] 425555;1387376483;jurov;;;bc,convert eur 425556;1387376484;gribble;1 BTC = 585.0 USD = 425.3535 eur 425557;1387376589;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16259 @ 0.00090619 = 14.7337 BTC [+] {3} 425558;1387377748;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.000903 = 11.9196 BTC [-] 425559;1387377870;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 11 @ 0.02210909 = 0.2432 BTC [-] {2} 425560;1387377931;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0492 = 0.246 BTC [-] 425561;1387378236;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.266 = 2.128 BTC [+] 425562;1387379517;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.000903 = 13.545 BTC [-] 425563;1387379596;FabianB_;;;ticker --currency eur 425564;1387379597;gribble;MtGox BTCEUR ticker | Best bid: 421.6311, Best ask: 426.0, Bid-ask spread: 4.36890, Last trade: 426.0, 24 hour volume: 11851.02461864, 24 hour low: 322.86162, 24 hour high: 540.0, 24 hour vwap: 404.07217 425565;1387379944;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1524 @ 0.00045001 = 0.6858 BTC [-] {2} 425566;1387380249;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.08049999 = 0.161 BTC [+] {2} 425567;1387380798;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 7 @ 0.0449999 = 0.315 BTC [+] 425568;1387381469;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00090405 = 11.4814 BTC [+] {3} 425569;1387381713;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12300 @ 0.00090641 = 11.1488 BTC [+] {3} 425570;1387381896;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 84 @ 0.00262402 = 0.2204 BTC [-] {2} 425571;1387382140;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.0492 = 0.1476 BTC [-] 425572;1387383360;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00090728 = 5.5344 BTC [+] {2} 425573;1387385739;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3750 @ 0.00090786 = 3.4045 BTC [+] 425574;1387386959;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6718 @ 0.000903 = 6.0664 BTC [-] 425575;1387388615;kakobreklaaa;http://svet24.si/#!/clanek/52b15cb990ab7/mlada-slovenca-sluzita-milijone-pri-nas-o-tem-nihce-ne-ve-nic 425576;1387389155;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 66 @ 0.002624 = 0.1732 BTC [-] {4} 425577;1387389216;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 124 @ 0.00260974 = 0.3236 BTC [-] {8} 425578;1387390070;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG.F] 1 @ 0.73 BTC [+] 425579;1387391839;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5388 @ 0.000903 = 4.8654 BTC [-] 425580;1387392571;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00090319 = 7.9481 BTC [+] 425581;1387392693;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00090556 = 2.0828 BTC [+] 425582;1387393242;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35218 @ 0.0009031 = 31.8054 BTC [-] {4} 425583;1387396170;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7750 @ 0.00090531 = 7.0162 BTC [+] 425584;1387397560;kakobreklaaa;sorry about that. 425585;1387397579;mircea_popescu;!t m x.eur 425586;1387397579;assbot;[MPEX:X.EUR] 1D: 0.00199998 / 0.00199998 / 0.00199998 (100 shares, 0.20 BTC), 7D: 0.00199998 / 0.00199998 / 0.00199998 (100 shares, 0.20 BTC), 30D: 0.00199998 / 0.00199998 / 0.00199998 (100 shares, 0.20 BTC) 425587;1387397616;mircea_popescu;omfg it traded 425588;1387397731;mircea_popescu;ajnd the buyer looks set to maybe turn a profit even 425589;1387398324;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.00090531 = 5.794 BTC [+] 425590;1387398507;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00090314 = 3.4319 BTC [-] 425591;1387399361;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8350 @ 0.00090316 = 7.5414 BTC [+] 425592;1387399529;benkay;so 7c *wants* to revive Stock Generation? 425593;1387399576;the20year2;7c? 425594;1387399629;benkay;https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=7C 425595;1387399671;benkay;trading rally is categorized as an event/development which will absorb funds to bring about 425596;1387399681;benkay;agog is what i am 425597;1387399752;the20year2;Do any of you plan on migrating to, or participating in ciphertrade when they release? 425598;1387399803;b0n1;;;seen davout 425599;1387399803;gribble;davout was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 13 hours, 19 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: amazing future 425600;1387399803;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 425601;1387399947;FabianB_;;;calc 1/[ticker --currency eur --last] 425602;1387399948;gribble;0.00235294117647 425603;1387400032;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.00090556 = 11.3195 BTC [+] 425604;1387400105;b0n1;is there an api for bitcoin-central? 425605;1387401069;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00090498 = 3.7104 BTC [-] 425606;1387401929;dexX7;did you hear? mircea_popescu, the eccentric romanian hacker.. runs mpex, an exchange where transactions are processed by hand via air-gapped systems :D https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EkLwTlb0sCEp023pzZfd1bv9OnLOqqogqV-0wN-K_PM/ 425607;1387402743;asciilifeform;dexX7: did you actually read that thing? 'cloud machine'??!? 425608;1387402793;asciilifeform;'...verifying that the hash of the code running on the Cloud Machine matches the hash of the code given at the time of the IPO...' 425609;1387402799;asciilifeform;stoppped there. 425610;1387402814;dexX7;didn't made it so far, to be honest :D 425611;1387402890;kakobreklaaa;http://www.coinion.com/2013/12/07/united-states-dollar-almost-doubles-in-value-in-a-single-day/ 425612;1387402913;asciilifeform;reminds me of a 'chicken recipe' sometimes attributed to the gypsies. '1) first, steal a chicken...' 425613;1387402970;mike_c;heh. bitcoin company recipe: "1) first, ipo" 425614;1387402971;jborkl;?join #bitcoin-otc 425615;1387403017;jborkl;;;8ball 425616;1387403017;gribble;Unlikely. 425617;1387403021;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5669 @ 0.00090577 = 5.1348 BTC [+] {3} 425618;1387403212;asciilifeform;paging mp: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/12/18/india-diplomat-us-immunity/4108553/ 425619;1387403227;asciilifeform;(tldr: diplomat arse-searched) 425620;1387403387;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16243 @ 0.00090807 = 14.7498 BTC [+] {2} 425621;1387403464;kakobrekla;anything found? 425622;1387403526;mike_c;lots of curry 425623;1387403631;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14238 @ 0.00090812 = 12.9298 BTC [+] {2} 425624;1387403812;mike_c;lol. india responds by "canceling duty-free liquor deliveries to the [US] embassy". 425625;1387404055;pankkake;and shutting down their whole IT department 425626;1387404064;pankkake;forum topic "Building my own Altcoin on windows,merkel and genesis hash" :| hmm maybe that was my Coinion idea, Deutschcoin based on Merkel hashes 425627;1387404174;the20year2;Is there a way to generate an altcoin that can pay out in other coins? I keep kicking around this idea of a coin backed by physical goods/items, but don't know a way to do it without inflating it , or paying out to holders 425628;1387404242;pankkake;if you want to back with something, you'd need a centralized issuer, and trust that issuer 425629;1387404278;the20year2;Yeah 425630;1387404299;pankkake;that's what colored coins, ripple, etc. can provide. see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=149533.0 as an experiment 425631;1387404308;the20year2;how is ripple doing it? 425632;1387404335;pankkake;you have to add a trust line to an issuer, and then you can use its currency 425633;1387404349;the20year2;and it can be traded in ripples? 425634;1387404370;pankkake;beware that if you add trust line for the same currency (i.e. btc) it can decide to exchange it between issuers without telling you 425635;1387404379;pankkake;no, ripples never enter the picture 425636;1387404384;the20year2;Interesting 425637;1387404387;pankkake;except maybe as fees 425638;1387404418;the20year2;I'm asking this specifically in terms of doing this with backing up coins as a specific set interest in income producing real estate here in the US , then trying to figure a viable way to pay back coin holders interest 425639;1387404442;pankkake;it looks like you're just reinventing shares ;) 425640;1387404452;the20year2;Correct, on something outside of an exchange 425641;1387404546;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 145 @ 0.001 = 0.145 BTC 425642;1387404605;mike_c;dexX7 just posted to a link to a paper describing what you want 425643;1387404717;mike_c;and here's mp's opinion on it: http://trilema.com/2013/why-i-nixed-p2p-colored-coins-and-all-that-jazz/ 425644;1387404825;the20year2;MP? 425645;1387404844;mike_c;mircea popescu, founder of mpex 425646;1387404851;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19050 @ 0.00090316 = 17.2052 BTC [-] {4} 425647;1387404887;the20year2;I didn't realize he was the foudner of mpex. Is he the one that deals with issuing? 425648;1387404907;mike_c;http://trilema.com/2012/how-does-one-list-on-mpex/ 425649;1387404908;ozbot;How does one list on MPEx ? pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 425650;1387404924;pankkake;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=271711.0 MP aka Your God 425651;1387404926;ozbot;Why MP is your God. 425652;1387404963;the20year2;wot? 425653;1387404977;the20year2;GUess they only want BTC involved/denominated then 425654;1387404978;the20year2;:( 425655;1387405290;mike_c;you run rentalstarter, right? you could probably list on havelock. 425656;1387405310;the20year2;Yeah, i'm looking at any exchange realy, but i'm worried about legalities and trying to avoid future problems 425657;1387405321;the20year2;We're doing pretty good overall IMO business wise, but I need access to more capital, sadly. 425658;1387405336;mike_c;tough to avoid legal issues when raising capital 425659;1387405355;the20year2;Eh , it just needs to be done right, and our lawyer isn't too favorable for havelock 425660;1387405399;mike_c;any crowdfunded/btc-funded raise is going to be legally challenging in the US 425661;1387405428;the20year2;Yes and no, from his standpoint we can do it, as long as we attempt to set in place a measure to limit/keep US citizens from investing 425662;1387405474;mike_c;good luck getting BTC investors to send in proof of residence :) 425663;1387405501;dexX7;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bxaGMddBNg "if the us misbehaves, this is what is gonna happen!1" lol 425664;1387405501;ozbot;Devyani Khobragade's arrest: police lift barricades outside US embassy in Delhi - YouTube 425665;1387405522;the20year2;Of course, so then there's some other methods that he felt would be SEC compliant with what we're doing, and he felt (From what he knows) that ciphertrade might be a better candidate than havelock 425666;1387405561;mike_c;ciphertrade.. that exchange that hasn't launched yet. i have this bad feeling about where you're headed. 425667;1387405590;the20year2;Well, everything we're doing is reviewed by our legal council 425668;1387405599;mike_c;who suggested ciphertrade. 425669;1387405614;the20year2;My brother, who gave info to my attourney 425670;1387405658;mike_c;you are investing in real estate. forget about btc. go find USD investors. 425671;1387405671;the20year2;I will once I feel that we're sizable enough to warrant a PPM 425672;1387405698;the20year2;which is the threshold, since a PPM will require us to spend say $8k or so 425673;1387405731;mike_c;if that is the direction you are headed, you are not going to want the monkey on your back of a thousand tiny btc investors. 425674;1387405756;the20year2;US BTC investors :) International investors are fine, and we can microfund that way 425675;1387405766;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 712 @ 0.00281112 = 2.0015 BTC [-] {4} 425676;1387405816;mike_c;ok. good luck. i think you're playing with fire, but hopefully you make it. 425677;1387405873;the20year2;We have decent legal council on retainer, our understanding seems to be good. Thankfully the SEC does have a grace period for US investors if we have any, and this last bitfunder purge brought it to our attention. 425678;1387405888;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8550 @ 0.00090828 = 7.7658 BTC [+] {2} 425679;1387405964;the20year2;At some point, hopefully in the next 2-3 months we'll be able to access traditional lending methods and this won't be an issue 425680;1387406559;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15900 @ 0.00090871 = 14.4485 BTC [+] {3} 425681;1387406559;mikaeldice;You're in real estate, the20year2 ? What makes the volatility of bitcoin a good choice for investment funds? Last resort? 425682;1387406620;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 6 @ 0.02199999 = 0.132 BTC [-] {2} 425683;1387406876;mikaeldice;It seems like you'd be taking on a lot of currency risk by sinking investors' BTC into fiat and then real estate 425684;1387406907;mike_c;on a different topic, what happened to your hack challenge mikael? still going to do it? 425685;1387406949;mikaeldice;I need some time to set it up. I don't want people calling it a scam, so I might just put up the server and make it a free for all 425686;1387406981;mike_c;you mean no bounty? 425687;1387407049;BingoBoingo;;;later tell asciilifeform The Cardano is going to be soundproof, right? http://it.slashdot.org/story/13/12/18/2122226/scientists-extract-rsa-key-from-gnupg-using-sound-of-cpu 425688;1387407050;gribble;The operation succeeded. 425689;1387407051;mikaeldice;A tiny bounty, but no entry fees. I don't want to take people's money, even if it'd make the challenge more interesting. At the same time, with little to gain, I would make the bounty much smaller 425690;1387407123;mike_c;the gain is proof of your system, right? unless you are expecting to get hacked and the gain is for you to learn about holes. 425691;1387407183;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: this attack is simply a variant of the traditional 'Differential Power Analysis' 425692;1387407194;mikaeldice;Dual purpose: If nobody hacks it, this adds evidence of 'sufficiency' with the security, and if someone does hack it then I can patch the holes and reinit the prize until no more holes are found 425693;1387407197;BingoBoingo;Ah 425694;1387407199;asciilifeform;the sound is coming from the power supply inductor 425695;1387407229;asciilifeform;this is really from the fact that a pc cpu is a monster hog 425696;1387407265;asciilifeform;and typically exists in one of two states - 'halt', with reduced power draw, and 'run' (interrupt throws cpu out of halt state.) 425697;1387407282;asciilifeform;idle loop in modern os scheduler sits the cpu in 'halt' 425698;1387407368;asciilifeform;virtually any device containing a switched power supply 'hisses' this way 425699;1387407415;asciilifeform;there are no inductors (switching power supply or otherwise) in cardano... 425700;1387407461;asciilifeform;nor is the 'low power state' feature of the microcontroller made use of; nor is there an operating system, in the usual sense, or a scheduler... 425701;1387407475;the20year2;mikaeldice: for us it was just a way to crowdsource funding on something that traditional investors wouldn't bite into 425702;1387407569;the20year2;The hope/assumption in the beginning was that we would be able to outpace the appreciation of bitcoin through the way we are handling real estate. Growth has been fantastic, but it hasn't outpaced bitcoin like we'd hoped. So, then the hope later on, and it hasn't come to fruitition was a reverse hedge against BTC.USD drops like what we've been seeing. I tried to get investments again when BTC hit $1200 and few I talked 425703;1387407596;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10724 @ 0.00090502 = 9.7054 BTC [-] 425704;1387407657;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.27 BTC [+] 425705;1387407779;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45400 @ 0.0009093 = 41.2822 BTC [+] {5} 425706;1387407837;zz_;asiclifeform: isn't the CPU running at a few Ghz, while sound <20Khz? What exactly would the cellphone pick up? 425707;1387407932;mike_c;that is actually the crux of the paper. 425708;1387407943;asciilifeform;zz_: it's picking up 'idle' vs 'halted' 425709;1387407950;asciilifeform;from which one can deduce execution path. 425710;1387407959;asciilifeform;this is a variation on the old theme of cache probe attack 425711;1387407962;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8950 @ 0.00090502 = 8.0999 BTC [-] 425712;1387407963;asciilifeform;(as noted in the paper) 425713;1387408019;zz_;didn't read the PDF. Guess that would help. 425714;1387408047;mike_c;tldr: "In a nutshell, the key extraction attack relies on crafting chosen ciphertexts that cause numerical 425715;1387408047;mike_c;cancellations deep inside GnuPG’s modular exponentiation algorithm. This causes the special value 425716;1387408047;mike_c;zero to appear frequently in the innermost loop of the algorithm, where it afects control fow. A single 425717;1387408047;mike_c;iteration of that loop is much too fast for direct acoustic observation, but the efect is repeated and 425718;1387408047;mike_c;amplifed over many thousands of iterations, resulting in a gross leakage effect that is discernible in the 425719;1387408047;mike_c;acoustic spectrum over hundreds of milliseconds" 425720;1387408068;mike_c;that pasted poorly 425721;1387408102;asciilifeform;the bit about leaking electrolytic caps 'buzzing' is unsurprising. 425722;1387408143;mike_c;so the good news, as far as i can tell, is that you have to be decrypting a known, specially crafted message. 425723;1387408182;asciilifeform;'More generally, we observed strong positive correlation between machine 425724;1387408182;asciilifeform;age, in terms of calendar time and usage, and the cryptanalytic usefulness of their acoustic emanations.' 425725;1387408214;asciilifeform;that statement, even if true - i can almost see the censor's red ink slipping that in. 425726;1387408386;dub;applied to snarfing bitcoin keys in 3-2- 425727;1387408511;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10750 @ 0.00090945 = 9.7766 BTC [+] 425728;1387409118;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: I imagine few consumer things being as loud as a Netburst era Pentium 4, for most definitions of loud. 425729;1387409155;asciilifeform;anything which oscillates rapidly between 'draws plenty of power' and 'draws little' is: a transmitter. 425730;1387409165;asciilifeform;audio, rf, optical (ir!), etc. 425731;1387409186;asciilifeform;this is no revelation of any kind. 425732;1387409731;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 400 @ 0.001 = 0.4 BTC 425733;1387410002;samy_;hello 425734;1387410035;kakobrekla;hi 425735;1387410037;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 5000 @ 0.00045 = 2.25 BTC [-] 425736;1387410159;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.04888 = 0.1955 BTC [-] 425737;1387410406;dub;yes hello 425738;1387411164;dub;mircea_popescu: finally a case for colored coins https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg4029004#msg4029004 425739;1387411257;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 32 @ 0.10294155 = 3.2941 BTC [-] {5} 425740;1387411318;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 13 @ 0.08 = 1.04 BTC [-] 425741;1387411379;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 40 @ 0.01866781 = 0.7467 BTC [-] {10} 425742;1387411380;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1900 @ 0.00045 = 0.855 BTC [-] 425743;1387411427;ll;ooh vtx dump time 425744;1387411562;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 23 @ 0.1 = 2.3 BTC [+] 425745;1387411745;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 27 @ 0.09998516 = 2.6996 BTC [-] {4} 425746;1387411867;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 21 @ 0.1 = 2.1 BTC [+] 425747;1387412233;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.093 = 0.279 BTC [-] 425748;1387412234;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 602 @ 0.00045 = 0.2709 BTC [-] {3} 425749;1387412294;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.093 = 0.372 BTC [-] {2} 425750;1387412416;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 377 @ 0.000435 = 0.164 BTC [-] 425751;1387412477;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1490 @ 0.00043501 = 0.6482 BTC [+] 425752;1387412754;KRS|Gotyawallet;colored coins is racist 425753;1387412964;dub;naggercoin 425754;1387412965;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.1 = 0.6 BTC [+] {2} 425755;1387412997;KRS|Gotyawallet;used for purchasing fried chicken and watermelon at a discount 425756;1387413044;topace;mmmmmmm fried chicken 425757;1387413087;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.1 = 0.5 BTC [+] 425758;1387413395;KRS|Gotyawallet;wow there's a name from the past 425759;1387413514;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.1 = 0.2 BTC [+] 425760;1387413832;nubbins`;http://bitcoin-otc.com/vieworderbook.php?nick=nubbins%60 425761;1387413833;ozbot;#bitcoin-otc order book 425762;1387413838;nubbins`;i'm fishing :D 425763;1387414734;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 25 @ 0.05892203 = 1.4731 BTC [-] {15} 425764;1387414857;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.0915 = 0.183 BTC [-] 425765;1387414917;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.09 = 0.18 BTC [-] {2} 425766;1387414978;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.07966666 = 0.239 BTC [-] {2} 425767;1387415039;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.07805 = 0.1561 BTC [-] {2} 425768;1387415222;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 26 @ 0.02099999 = 0.546 BTC [-] {2} 425769;1387415649;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15050 @ 0.00090851 = 13.6731 BTC [-] 425770;1387416198;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 54 @ 0.07703055 = 4.1596 BTC [-] {3} 425771;1387416259;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 31 @ 0.05959354 = 1.8474 BTC [-] {5} 425772;1387416930;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.022189 = 0.2219 BTC [+] {3} 425773;1387417418;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 470 @ 0.00047491 = 0.2232 BTC [+] {6} 425774;1387417685;benkay;;;ticker --market btcavg 425775;1387417686;gribble;BitcoinAverage BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 510.04, Best ask: 511.53, Bid-ask spread: 1.49000, Last trade: 510.13, 24 hour volume: 412704.96, 24 hour low: None, 24 hour high: None, 24 hour vwap: 557.2 425776;1387418028;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1010 @ 0.001 = 1.01 BTC 425777;1387418089;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.0999874 = 0.7999 BTC [+] {3} 425778;1387418182;skylax;can anyone hear me? 425779;1387418202;bloctoc;they will cease having fiat issues when people cease using fiat 425780;1387418273;BingoBoingo;bloctoc: On some level people will always continue using some fiat in some role. You have to buy toothpaste sometime. 425781;1387418330;skylax;the goverenment will always have the power to shut down crypto, they just won't do it yet 425782;1387418331;bloctoc;you don't anymore have to use fiat to buy toothpaste. 425783;1387418333;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.09999989 = 0.3 BTC [+] 425784;1387418385;bloctoc;whole foods on gyft for example 425785;1387418565;bloctoc;skylax - how on earth would the government shut down crypto? 425786;1387418620;benkay;BingoBoingo: it doesn't look like they use localbitcoins. i wonder if that's even an option for them. 425787;1387418655;BingoBoingo;bloctoc: Why would I want to consider parting with something valuable like BTC for a consumable like toothpast though. 425788;1387418681;BingoBoingo;Fiat will alway have that niche of stuff too boring to trade BTC for 425789;1387418695;BingoBoingo;benkay: Who knows 425790;1387418853;skylax;@bloctoc they could easily block the protocol channels of any bitcoin related subjects. RIght now there is a bit of battle going on between bitcoin and legal institutions, if bitcoin wins, meaning it can bypass the law, then I'm pretty sure a lot of other things in society will probably be used to bypass the law in the same manner. 425791;1387419008;BingoBoingo;skylax: I think you are mistaken. Bitcoin is now the law and BitBet the court. 425792;1387419065;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 136 @ 0.00243997 = 0.3318 BTC [-] {10} 425793;1387419118;benkay;don't go overboard with the sycophancy now BingoBoingo 425794;1387419126;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.09999988 = 0.3 BTC [-] {2} 425795;1387419131;benkay;*elbow elbow* 425796;1387419161;bloctoc;skylax you mean like China blocks CNN? There's no battle right now, at most there's fincen bragging that they found a way to fit bitcoin into their own status quo. I really suspect bureaucrats everywhere don't give a shit except that reporters only want to talk about bitcoin. 425797;1387419195;BingoBoingo;benkay: Sycophants aren't a bad thing, either to have or to be. I will admit though that mircea_popescu has made some poor decisions like Market Making X.idiff. 425798;1387419234;benkay;that has to have been a painful exercise. 425799;1387419248;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.0487 = 0.6818 BTC [-] 425800;1387419431;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.07400001 = 0.148 BTC [-] {2} 425801;1387419614;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.09999988 = 1 BTC [+] {3} 425802;1387419926;skylax_;@bloctoc the beaucrats will eventually give a shit if bitcoin becomes too mainstream and manages to manipulate other currencies 425803;1387419992;skylax;@bloctoc the beaucrats will eventually give a shit if bitcoin becomes too mainstream and manages to manipulate other currencies 425804;1387420013;skylax;@bloctoc what do you think the future of bitcoin will look like? 425805;1387420041;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 198 @ 0.001 = 0.198 BTC 425806;1387420042;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 29 @ 0.09499992 = 2.755 BTC [+] {9} 425807;1387420102;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.00090667 = 5.984 BTC [-] 425808;1387420574;bloctoc;skylax - A bunch of regulatory functions will be better served by crypto. Monetary policy is the most obvious, but there will be other "industries" that will be made redundant. There will be no more credit checks unless you actually want a loan. SEC no longer needed except for enforcement. Title insurance gone. Toothpaste still around. 425809;1387420712;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6476 @ 0.00090532 = 5.8629 BTC [-] {2} 425810;1387420722;bloctoc;I'm pretty excited about the functionality suggested by mastercoin, ripple, and colored coins. I get that all those are not solid technically yet, but the direction is clearly laid out for those who care to believe. 425811;1387420799;bloctoc;oh, and cherry trucks on the cover of Rolling Stone. 425812;1387420974;KRS|Gotyawallet;cherry truck bonus ftw 425813;1387421033;KRS|Gotyawallet;bloctoc a lot of bitcoiners are not happy with mastercoin for instance because they're saying its centralized and a large portion of the wealth is privately owned 425814;1387421038;monolithik;mastercoin is a joke. ripple is technologically interesting but will probably be a failure due to high complexity and relative need for centralized trusted parties 425815;1387421045;KRS|Gotyawallet;^^^^^^^^^^^ 425816;1387421069;monolithik;colored coins have potential but none of the implementations are of sufficient quality yet 425817;1387421170;BingoBoingo;Look, if you want to ipo without any gatekeepers isn't cryptostocks questionable enough for you? 425818;1387421200;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10640 @ 0.00090425 = 9.6212 BTC [-] 425819;1387421239;bloctoc;If I knew MP personally, then sure. but MP might be the FBI for all I know. 425820;1387421283;KRS|Gotyawallet;nah he'd be more like the KGB 425821;1387421292;bloctoc;… unless "cryptostocks" is more than some generic term. In which case I never heard of it. 425822;1387421297;KRS|Gotyawallet;or the Somalian Mob 425823;1387421316;BingoBoingo;bloctoc: Cryptostocks is the Vircurex spinoff Vircurex IPO'd itself on 425824;1387421337;bloctoc;got it. 425825;1387421566;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.27001 BTC [+] 425826;1387422029;skylax;bloctoc: I suppose the efficiency of crypto will erase many of worthless industries, but crowdsource law is pretty complex and unreliable so some kind of institution will still be present, if somehow someone made crowdsourced law work, then this method would be used in all legal fields such as commercial law and criminal law etc. Also to mention crypto if heavily technology dependent, if the power goes out, we go back to cave 425827;1387423396;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2550 @ 0.00090425 = 2.3058 BTC [-] 425828;1387423723;bloctoc;…if the power goes out, we go back to cave - yes crypto or no crypto that's true. Same argument for breaking SHA256. As far as crowdsource law it will be nice to see some template corporations that get set up by copy/paste instead of paying a lawyer $10K to copy/paste. For what it's worth, I do think the smart contracts will do that for us. 425829;1387423884;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37584 @ 0.00090762 = 34.112 BTC [+] {2} 425830;1387423945;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29666 @ 0.00090985 = 26.9916 BTC [+] {6} 425831;1387424468;skylax;bloctoc: what do you mean template corporations? 425832;1387425409;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 300 @ 0.001 = 0.3 BTC 425833;1387425501;Bugpowder;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNi1o74DaIk 425834;1387425501;ozbot;x-dream - the 5th dimension (live in paris) - YouTube 425835;1387426385;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.00091079 = 13.7529 BTC [+] {3} 425836;1387426873;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 98 @ 0.00273497 = 0.268 BTC [+] {4} 425837;1387427370;mircea_popescu;the20year2 yeah, i handle ipos. 425838;1387427806;jborkl;Hi mircea 425839;1387427937;mircea_popescu;hey jborkl 425840;1387427969;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform bloodcurdingly obnoxious shit. "everyone respect the laws" ? bs. 425841;1387427991;mircea_popescu;dub beware that yellow snow! 425842;1387428062;mircea_popescu;;;later tell dexx7 guy was actually emailing me about the thing. i sent him a list of no's and the way we left it was he's gonna lurk here for a while figure shit out. 425843;1387428062;gribble;The operation succeeded. 425844;1387428135;Bugpowder;http://www.prweb.com/releases/galtsgulchchile/20131112/prweb11324365.htm 425845;1387428256;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo i never marketmade x.idiff ?! what are you talkin' about ? 425846;1387428272;nubbins`;galt's gulch chile 425847;1387428278;nubbins`;i bet it's full of insufferable assholes 425848;1387428293;Bugpowder;I sold $20k to a nice family of four in Santa Monica 425849;1387428299;Bugpowder;@ $1200/coin 425850;1387428310;Bugpowder;I think it was their life savings :( 425851;1387428321;Bugpowder;They just wanted to move to Chile... 425852;1387428337;nubbins`;wow 425853;1387428349;mircea_popescu;nubbins` they were trying to sell me on the thing. i tell you i don't see it, why would you want to go hang out there ? 425854;1387428361;nubbins`;that's what, like 17 btc 425855;1387428366;mircea_popescu;Bugpowder is a family of four mean a guy and three women ? 425856;1387428383;truffles;lol 425857;1387428395;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Ah, I must have confused futures and options 425858;1387428399;Bugpowder;Geeky father, overbearing fat mother, two incredibly cute blond girls 425859;1387428407;nubbins`;mircea_popescu: i remember a while back this guy on the forums had a huge thesis-length post about "bitcoin land", a place where bitcoin would be used everywhere 425860;1387428414;mircea_popescu;sounds dreamy. 425861;1387428416;Bugpowder;they need bitcoin to go to $2500 to afford their land 425862;1387428419;nubbins`;he waited 8 or 9 paragraphs before bringing up the drug therapies 425863;1387428432;Bugpowder;warned them not to manic sell if it were to drop... I hope the held on... 425864;1387428441;mircea_popescu;nubbins` gotta give junkies credit when they manage to hold off for a thousand words before bringin; it. 425865;1387428452;mircea_popescu;Bugpowder i'll bet you they're out at ~550 425866;1387428461;Bugpowder;Maybe 382 425867;1387428467;Bugpowder;out at 382! 425868;1387428471;Bugpowder;couldn't take it 425869;1387428474;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo re options, you gotta understand that ecosystems are born out of shit. 425870;1387428478;mircea_popescu;if nobody shits nothing grows. 425871;1387428489;mircea_popescu;Bugpowder it never went as low as 382 did it ?! 425872;1387428494;Bugpowder;on bitstamp! 425873;1387428495;nubbins`;mircea_popescu: you gotta do something like that in a city, not out in the woods. e.g. freetown christiania 425874;1387428496;Bugpowder;it did 425875;1387428512;xoinfinityox;you should have traded for the girls 425876;1387428531;mircea_popescu;nubbins` when i was a mobster i didn't wanna go live with all the other mobsters. generally this seems to be a common trend, too, people don't seem to go "a shit, you know what'd be cool ? let's move upstate. the city's a toilet!" 425877;1387428543;mircea_popescu;xoinfinityox "HOW MUCH FOR THE LITTLE GIRL!!!" 425878;1387428564;Bugpowder;sup xoinfinityox 425879;1387428570;xoinfinityox;sup bug 425880;1387428576;xoinfinityox;I WANT TO BUY YOUR WOMEN 425881;1387428585;mircea_popescu;http://www.youtube.com/embed/GDXYzUlv0S8 425882;1387428585;ozbot;How much for the little girl? - YouTube 425883;1387428595;xoinfinityox;i pay only in dogecoins 425884;1387428595;Bugpowder;I have enough women in my life 425885;1387428604;nubbins`;lies 425886;1387428605;Bugpowder;another daughter on the way... 425887;1387428616;mircea_popescu;Bugpowder it'll suck to be you when you're 50 and old and frail 425888;1387428619;mircea_popescu;and their periods syncronise. 425889;1387428630;nubbins`;heh 425890;1387428637;Bugpowder;I will never be frail 425891;1387428639;mircea_popescu;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWcNcJuTHVo << Bugpowder in 10 years. 425892;1387428640;ozbot;katie kaboom - YouTube 425893;1387428650;nubbins`;one week each month, the bathroom garbage fills up much quicker than usual 425894;1387428703;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 14 @ 0.06771428 = 0.948 BTC [-] {4} 425895;1387428764;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 9 @ 0.06422222 = 0.578 BTC [-] {3} 425896;1387428767;mircea_popescu;;;later tell mircea_popescu remind me in 10 years to neg Bugpowder if his "i will never be frail" promise turns out to be made of milk. 425897;1387428767;gribble;The operation succeeded. 425898;1387428824;Bugpowder;dude 425899;1387428825;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 27 @ 0.06336149 = 1.7108 BTC [-] {3} 425900;1387428836;Bugpowder;I will be frail around 80 maybe 425901;1387428839;Bugpowder;I got 45 years 425902;1387428848;Bugpowder;of strength and virility 425903;1387428850;Bugpowder;left 425904;1387428861;mircea_popescu;okok 425905;1387428868;truffles;5* years tops 425906;1387428870;KRS|Gotyawallet;how's the libedo 425907;1387428883;Bugpowder;babies fuck that up tho 425908;1387428897;mircea_popescu;they do ?! 425909;1387428898;Bugpowder;Do you even lift? 425910;1387428902;nubbins`;ok enough of this, gonna print one more color 425911;1387428906;Bugpowder;I gotta get my T checked 425912;1387428909;mircea_popescu;lmao 425913;1387428916;nubbins`;we got a rush job earlier today, due tomorrow ;( 425914;1387428917;Bugpowder;my buddy just started getting T supplementation 425915;1387428918;mircea_popescu;perfect delivery of dyel! 425916;1387428940;nubbins`;i've got a friend who takes t 425917;1387428941;pizzaman1337;mircea_popescu: just curious, what do you think bitcoin is worth right now? 425918;1387428969;mircea_popescu;pizzaman1337 1 btc per, exactly. 425919;1387428979;pizzaman1337;mircea_popescu: and how about in terms of USD? 425920;1387428979;mircea_popescu;the dollar however, i don't think is worth very much. 425921;1387428993;Bugpowder;oh shit... They needed their coins to appreciate to $75,000?? 425922;1387428998;mircea_popescu;sorta like a badly managed pmb, i guess some people show green playing with fire, but overall... 425923;1387428999;mircea_popescu;it's gonna be a loss. 425924;1387429008;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.0655 = 0.655 BTC [+] 425925;1387429012;Bugpowder;Its going to take a while to get to $4,000 / btc I think. Doubt they will be able to hold on 425926;1387429024;mircea_popescu;Bugpowder http://bitbet.us/bet/635/1btc-10-000-usd/ 425927;1387429035;mircea_popescu;so far 90/60 425928;1387429043;Bugpowder;No more gambling for bugpowder 425929;1387429058;mircea_popescu;not for you, for them. plunk the whiole thing down on yes :D 425930;1387429079;mircea_popescu;http://bitbet.us/bet/519/btc-network-difficulty-to-top-1b-before-2014/#c2087 << the experts say so anyway. 425931;1387429081;ozbot;BitBet - BTC network difficulty to top 1B before 2014 425932;1387429142;pizzaman1337;so do you think it's currently worth more or less than $500 per coin? (seems to be hovering at around 500) 425933;1387429146;Bugpowder;lol 425934;1387429157;Bugpowder;MOAR duh 425935;1387429171;pizzaman1337;well hey 425936;1387429172;pizzaman1337;http://trilema.com/2013/people-bitcoin-is-not-worth-100-dollars-per-stop-buying/ 425937;1387429172;xoinfinityox;www.gamblersanonymous.org 425938;1387429173;ozbot;People Bitcoin is not worth 100+ dollars per. STOP BUYING! pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 425939;1387429190;Bugpowder;That was a long time ago dude 425940;1387429190;pizzaman1337;he's made calls in the past 425941;1387429190;mircea_popescu;pizzaman1337 a lot changed since spring. 425942;1387429191;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.06328875 = 0.5063 BTC [-] {3} 425943;1387429206;Bugpowder;coinbase became like a real company and shit 425944;1387429219;Bugpowder;(not that that is a big thing) 425945;1387429222;BingoBoingo;Honeslty it is probably worth an amount such that you yourself would have to pay to get an honest answer 425946;1387429229;mircea_popescu;not that, really, but anyway. seriously pizzaman1337, it's impossible to make a definitive call like that in the current circumstance. 425947;1387429239;mircea_popescu;we're not imo in dangerous territory, and that's all i care about. 425948;1387429242;pizzaman1337;ok, just curious 425949;1387429243;mircea_popescu;mkt can take it from here. 425950;1387429252;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 5000 @ 0.001 = 5 BTC 425951;1387429287;mircea_popescu;i did have the "ppl stop buying" post prepared, but it never got there, so... crisis averted. 425952;1387429325;xoinfinityox;god damn btc is the wild west 425953;1387429374;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 100 @ 0.06281 = 6.281 BTC [-] {2} 425954;1387429389;mircea_popescu;xoinfinityox it is. and who are you ? 425955;1387429408;Bugpowder;friend of mine 425956;1387429431;mircea_popescu;a. hai. 425957;1387429440;xoinfinityox;whats up man 425958;1387429445;xoinfinityox;i'm painfully new to all this 425959;1387429565;KRS|Gotyawallet;mircea_popescu: I was wondering about a follow-up on that one, much time has passed in btc time. 425960;1387429575;mircea_popescu;which ? 425961;1387429581;KRS|Gotyawallet;"stop buying bitcoin" 425962;1387429615;mircea_popescu;i thought we just covered that. 425963;1387429654;mircea_popescu;moving on, did i mention body stockings are kinda cool ? they should put this in seventeen or w/e kids read, "if you don't own a coupla good ones you're no woman" 425964;1387429671;mircea_popescu;"make sure you get the crotchless variants" 425965;1387429695;truffles;pic 425966;1387429757;mircea_popescu;i'm not sharing 425967;1387429773;truffles;random one 425968;1387429779;truffles;from internet 425969;1387429784;xoinfinityox;lmgtfy 425970;1387429798;mircea_popescu;.b 425971;1387429893;BingoBoingo;.bait 425972;1387429894;ozbot;http://assets.tumblr.com/images/og/text_200.png 425973;1387429906;truffles;http://www.western-supplies.com/images/legs/ballet-dancer-tights.jpg 425974;1387429924;mircea_popescu;nah. 425975;1387429964;mircea_popescu;hahaha nice one ozzy 425976;1387430106;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.06282 = 0.6282 BTC [+] {2} 425977;1387430107;truffles;http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3196/3065704658_41018aa653_o.jpg 425978;1387430119;Duffer1;:(( 425979;1387431013;mircea_popescu;;;bcstats 425980;1387431015;gribble;Current Blocks: 275787 | Current Difficulty: 9.08350862437022E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 276191 | Next Difficulty In: 404 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 19 hours, 52 minutes, and 23 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 1177706524.89 | Estimated Percent Change: 29.65326 425981;1387431036;mircea_popescu;holy shit look at that, 30% almost 425982;1387431039;Bugpowder;yeah 425983;1387431047;Bugpowder;sipa charts are off the hook 425984;1387431064;mircea_popescu;i wonder what will be the peak diff. 425985;1387431077;mircea_popescu;10^20 ? 10^25 ? 425986;1387431098;mircea_popescu;10^15 maybe, tho that seems improbable 425987;1387431113;Bugpowder;2.5PH/s gain in 2 weeks 425988;1387431119;mircea_popescu;yup 425989;1387431129;mircea_popescu;and nobody is doing this, practyically, acoupla noname shops 425990;1387431133;Bugpowder;how many total computational power of the worlds is that 425991;1387431146;Bugpowder;(excluding bitcoin miners) 425992;1387431160;mircea_popescu;what will it look like when the miner producers dominate the silicon industry on the ground, and are like 5 of the top 20 corps on mpex 425993;1387431168;mircea_popescu;which by now of course does more in a day than the fiat stock exchanges combined in a week 425994;1387431186;mircea_popescu;Bugpowder an impressive chunk, no matter how you look at it. 425995;1387431214;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/things-that-matter-these-days-things-that-dont-matter-these-days/ << math is in there. 425996;1387431215;ozbot;Things that matter these days ; things that don’t matter these days. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mirce 425997;1387431509;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22300 @ 0.00090519 = 20.1857 BTC [-] 425998;1387431570;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.0009089 = 9.907 BTC [+] 425999;1387431740;xoinfinityox;@mircea - good article. this might be a dumb Q but whats the danger of controlling interest in BTC? 426000;1387431816;mircea_popescu;it may be dumb, but i don't get what it is asking ? 426001;1387431886;xoinfinityox;you talk about a 51% attack 426002;1387431888;xoinfinityox;what is that? 426003;1387431915;mircea_popescu;a 51% attack is the situation where one party controls a majority of mining. 426004;1387431931;xoinfinityox;why is that dangerous in a BTC context? 426005;1387431935;mircea_popescu;that party can then do some nefarious choosing in the transactions that get accepted and then rolled back 426006;1387431947;mircea_popescu;resulting in untrustworthy btc conveyance for as long as their 51% position lasts 426007;1387431996;monolithik;xoinfinityox: see http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/658/what-can-an-attacker-with-51-of-hash-power-do 426008;1387432000;mircea_popescu;can of course does not equal will, but giving that sort of an option to anyone is anathema to the bitcoin philosophy and the expectations built around it. 426009;1387432032;xoinfinityox;gotcha 426010;1387432036;xoinfinityox;@monolithik thx 426011;1387432074;mircea_popescu;yeah, the stack exchange link is on point. 426012;1387432132;xoinfinityox;i gotcha, they can get out in front of the actual chain 426013;1387432251;mircea_popescu;we're roughly past the point where this is feasible, which is one of the major things tghat changed since back in spring. 426014;1387432308;monolithik;network consolidation is definitely a problem. Best case scenario IMO: ASIC development hits the point where an increase in ghash/watt would be reducible to a general improvement in human knowledge of semiconductors. At that point bitcoin ASICs will become commoditized like Intel CPUs, and the distribution of hashpower would settle to some equilibrium where power was not too widely concentrated 426015;1387432364;mircea_popescu;monolithik i tell you, it's when upscale bathrooms come with miners in the tile 426016;1387432368;mircea_popescu;that's the endgame. 426017;1387432388;xoinfinityox;i would prefer to be a slumlord with the same tiles 426018;1387432398;monolithik;question: will people run miners unprofitably to ensure that nobody has a majority share? 426019;1387432423;Duffer1;mircea what do you base your assumption on that us/china govs are hashing? 426020;1387432448;mircea_popescu;Duffer1 not rly an assumption. ppl have asked before, but i never said anything. 426021;1387432461;xoinfinityox;mono: i think once you get the market consolidated to a few big players, they will compete pretty fiercely 426022;1387432480;mircea_popescu;monolithik mining is roughly slightly unprofitable on the spot today, and has been for a while. on the long term it will remain so. 426023;1387432487;xoinfinityox;the value of their own coins vs the risk of losing them should keep from cartelizing 426024;1387432517;Duffer1;if it's not an assumption then how do you know? 426025;1387432521;mircea_popescu;the thing is, cartels are not really profitable. 426026;1387432535;mircea_popescu;Duffer1 that's what i do, i spy. 426027;1387432537;monolithik;will people abandon bitcoin if some kind of nefarious mining cartel forms? Is that enough of a disencentive for the miners to do so? 426028;1387432556;monolithik;so far, the system has shown to be incentive-safe in practice 426029;1387432561;xoinfinityox;i dont think mining cartels would really be profitable or efficient 426030;1387432571;mircea_popescu;people will definitely abandon bitcoin if it fucks up. hash concentration is one such fuckup. 426031;1387432585;mircea_popescu;implementing any sort of legal controls is more of such a fuckup. 426032;1387432608;xoinfinityox;for large entities like nations (banks?) i think the value / advantage of ownership would keep them mining 426033;1387432609;monolithik;agreed. what is your opinion of libbitcoin/darkwallet initiatives? 426034;1387432622;monolithik;that was directed toward mircea 426035;1387432632;mircea_popescu;monolithik probably too soon to have one. 426036;1387432697;monolithik;I read some of the libbitcoin source. It is high quality. 426037;1387432719;mircea_popescu;the wilson guy definitely means well. i don't see he;s delivering any value yet, but it's way too early. the other thing sounds like it means well, same situation. 426038;1387432728;monolithik;extensive use of boost::asio for purely async networking. 426039;1387432749;monolithik;I don't know about most of the other people involved, but Amir Taaki is a talented engineer. 426040;1387432763;mircea_popescu;he's also bitcoin's chief retard. 426041;1387432781;monolithik;yeah he is pretty terrible as a spokesperson. But his code is good 426042;1387432801;mircea_popescu;seems of late he's taken to heart the invitation to do less of the speaking. 426043;1387432827;mircea_popescu;that can't hurt anything. 426044;1387432859;monolithik;yeah. I agree with the need to have multiple implementations. Right now the main point of centralization is the core development team. 426045;1387432872;xoinfinityox;what articles on trilema are required reading for getting started with btc? 426046;1387432891;Duffer1;all of them 426047;1387432896;monolithik;Obviously there are difficulties with ensuring that they all interoperate properly, but that just leads to better standardization, which is good. 426048;1387432898;mircea_popescu;that's kinda dying, really. anyway, yes, it's a good use of resources and has been for a while to try and specify the code. bar that, alternate implementations may work. 426049;1387432919;mircea_popescu;xoinfinityox hit the bitcoin category, can't hurt anything. 426050;1387432959;mircea_popescu;maybe even make your own list and publish it somewhere. 426051;1387432961;xoinfinityox;thx 426052;1387432977;xoinfinityox;sorry for the total n00b question 426053;1387432985;xoinfinityox;i'm trying to give myself the crash course 426054;1387433009;mircea_popescu;monolithik exactly. also, if there's going to be improvements to the concept, they may be discovered this way. atm we don't really know what utterly sucks in bitcoin. 426055;1387433033;Duffer1;xoinfinityox https://www.udemy.com/bitcoin-or-how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-crypto for the technical, trilema for perspective 426056;1387433044;mircea_popescu;sort-of like nobody figured out why ruby on rails utterly sucks until they had tried to make websites in it for a few years and they could never get one secure. then it was pretty clear. 426057;1387433140;monolithik;mircea: I think that bitcoin or a direct descendant (i.e. forked from the current chain, not some premined crap) will win. It's classic "worse is better". 426058;1387433140;mircea_popescu;but yeah, Duffer1 has a point, trilema isn't exactly a manual, more like that one asshole instructor in karate that just beats the shit out of you and then laughs. 426059;1387433159;Duffer1;hehe 426060;1387433161;mircea_popescu;monolithik i agree, but that means little in the context. 426061;1387433169;mircea_popescu;for instance, people in fiat think fiat will win. 426062;1387433235;monolithik;(I don't think we are disagreeing with eachother) the best technology doesn't always win. The one that is first to market that is un-shitty enough to provide some value wins. 426063;1387433252;monolithik;thats why I think altcoins are futile. 426064;1387433278;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.28039999 = 2.804 BTC [+] {3} 426065;1387433312;xoinfinityox;what really distinguishes most altcoins at this point anyway? 426066;1387433321;Duffer1;quite a lot actually 426067;1387433334;Duffer1;lower transaction times, different proofs work 426068;1387433342;Duffer1;proofs of stake 426069;1387433343;benkay;what's more important is their unifying theme of irrelevance. 426070;1387433412;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: I believe Vircurex is now the Canonical example of the failure of RoR to accomplish anything 426071;1387433427;Duffer1;there's legit innovation that should occur, alts serve that purpose 426072;1387433451;benkay;nah. 10m/block is fine 426073;1387433453;mircea_popescu;monolithik perhaps many alt chains are futile. keeping one on hand just in case makes some sense tho 426074;1387433460;mircea_popescu;or at least the mkt seems to think so. 426075;1387433480;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo nah, davout's site is the cannonical example opf that. 426076;1387433698;monolithik;i think that the idea of using a memory-hard hash function (e.g. scrypt a la litecoin) is good, but not enough of a gain to offset the network effects of all the infrastructure built up around btc 426077;1387433765;toffoo;so mircea_popescu getting back to us/china gov mining, did you just make that up or is it based on any kind of evidence? 426078;1387433823;mircea_popescu;i didn't just make it up. 426079;1387433862;toffoo;then what? 426080;1387433964;toffoo;a vivid dream? 426081;1387434031;benkay;didn't your name once only have one trailing 'o', toffoo? 426082;1387434038;benkay;;;gettrust toffoo 426083;1387434038;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user toffoo: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=toffoo | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=toffoo | Rated since: Tue Mar 15 18:00:23 2011 426084;1387434039;benkay;;;gettrust toffo 426085;1387434040;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user toffo: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=toffo | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=toffo | Rated since: never 426086;1387434063;benkay;hah nevermind. 426087;1387434089;xoinfinityox;NARC GET HIM 426088;1387434160;toffoo;benkay only very briefly, like the first day 426089;1387434165;xoinfinityox;really tho it makes sense 426090;1387434169;xoinfinityox;(gov't mining) 426091;1387434180;xoinfinityox;if they're gonna seize a couple $MM in bitcoins 426092;1387434186;xoinfinityox;might as well protect those assets 426093;1387434190;toffoo;maybe in 5-10years it makes sense, not in 2013 426094;1387434213;xoinfinityox;gotta protect for the future by starting now 426095;1387434224;mircea_popescu;toffoo summer of 2013,a ctually. 426096;1387434239;mircea_popescu;it became a definite a coupla months back, but they had been doing it for a while. 426097;1387434241;xoinfinityox;I understand mircea not wanting to drop his sources, but I would think you can follow an appropriations bill or something to find the proof 426098;1387434270;benkay;unless the pentagon's doing it. 426099;1387434278;benkay;unless any bureau with acceptable operational financing is doing it. 426100;1387434285;benkay;unless anyone with any real power is behind it. 426101;1387434297;xoinfinityox;i guess it depends on the purpose 426102;1387434365;benkay;depends far more on involved individuals. 426103;1387434404;benkay;the great all seeing eye of USG mk. IV will not of its own make any decisions. 426104;1387434417;xoinfinityox;you've lost me there 426105;1387434437;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23450 @ 0.00091006 = 21.3409 BTC [+] {2} 426106;1387434438;xoinfinityox;what's the hypothetical effect on the market of an announcement that gov'ts are mining? 426107;1387434447;xoinfinityox;thats kind of what i'mgetting at 426108;1387434451;benkay;much like walmart does not hate women and want to prevent them from earning dollar parity with men, the .75/1.00 ratio is the accumulation of many individual's decisions 426109;1387434469;Duffer1;if confirmed i expect the price will rocket 426110;1387434477;benkay;bafflement and confusion? inability to comprehend relevance of statement? 426111;1387434488;benkay;i kid.. 426112;1387434537;xoinfinityox;i agree with you that if the goal is defense/intelligence/law enforcement keeping it secret is preferrable 426113;1387434560;benkay;let's play a thought game 426114;1387434560;xoinfinityox;or wanting to do anything shady with it 426115;1387434564;benkay;we sit down to a poker game 426116;1387434589;benkay;wherein you derive some small benefit from knowing what i plan to do and the motivations behind it 426117;1387434613;benkay;why would any competent actor in the scenario disclose targets goals strategies or philosophies!? 426118;1387434676;xoinfinityox;i don't think your analogy fits the situation 426119;1387434688;xoinfinityox;this isn't about strategy, its about whether the US is playing the game at all 426120;1387434716;xoinfinityox;a better analogy might be, you sit down and the guy across from you is phil helmuth, or its some random guy 426121;1387434722;benkay;no, they are playing the game. you were making some sort of claim about their goals vis-a-vis sketchiness. 426122;1387434741;xoinfinityox;that isn't confirmed at this point 426123;1387434773;xoinfinityox;i don't doubt mircea's veracity, but one source does not a fact makee 426124;1387434806;benkay;well by the time one waits for confirmation of a fact the market has long since priced it in typically 426125;1387434851;xoinfinityox;did the market move based on mircea's article? 426126;1387434911;Duffer1;germany timezone waking up 426127;1387434923;xoinfinityox;i'm not trying to argue here - still trying to figure out how this market works 426128;1387434941;mircea_popescu; if confirmed i expect the price will rocket << you know it was announced before btc rocketed ? 426129;1387434953;benkay;arguing is all -assets does, xoinfinityox ;) 426130;1387434978;xoinfinityox;well in that case... 426131;1387434988;xoinfinityox;party on ;) 426132;1387434988;Duffer1;announced? 426133;1387435051;mircea_popescu;Duffer1 yes, that 16th of oct article linked earlier, is where it was announced. toffoo has been asking me about whence and wherefore ever since. 426134;1387435066;Duffer1;ah i see 426135;1387435076;mircea_popescu;put that timeline on a graph. 426136;1387435108;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.0487 = 0.5357 BTC [-] 426137;1387435120;benkay;and people wonder why mining is unprofitable. 426138;1387435128;toffoo;I just saw the article for the first time today, when you linked it earlier.. 426139;1387435139;mircea_popescu;i wonder who was hounding me the next day then hm 426140;1387435147;mircea_popescu;benkay kinda designed to be that way ya kno ? 426141;1387435155;toffoo;if it turns there's some truth to the statement, color me surprised 426142;1387435159;Duffer1;maybe toffo with one o? :P 426143;1387435159;xoinfinityox;im curious why other news outlets don't pick it up 426144;1387435160;benkay;yeah i don't quite understand that, mircea_popescu. 426145;1387435194;Duffer1;no proof = not really newsworthy, regardless of who says it 426146;1387435220;mircea_popescu;a no twasn't him. my bad. 426147;1387435221;Duffer1;in this case it's still probably worth paying attention to though 426148;1387435229;nubbins`;http://imgur.com/6IrvrJk 426149;1387435236;nubbins`;halfway through a 4-color print run 426150;1387435246;mircea_popescu;xoinfinityox other news outlets don't practically exist. what's out there ? 426151;1387435257;mircea_popescu;"hey guise, here's a cool idea, make us president coins narf" ? 426152;1387435263;ozbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 426153;1387435291;benkay;mircea_popescu: how does mining being unprofitable make bitcoing work? 426154;1387435296;benkay;bitcoin* 426155;1387435310;nubbins`;it encourages people to get the hashrate climbing as fast as fucking possible 426156;1387435328;mircea_popescu;benkay you read the buffett bit re commodified markets ? 426157;1387435332;xoinfinityox;@mircea_popescu other news outlets and tech blogs pick up gov't regulation / seizure of btc events 426158;1387435363;benkay;mircea_popescu: yeah but fail to draw the dots 426159;1387435387;xoinfinityox;like i said, i'm a total noob at btc but prooof that gov'ts are mining would be a huge headline 426160;1387435392;xoinfinityox;imo 426161;1387435402;mircea_popescu;xoinfinityox i guess that may be interesting in the sense pointing the spot lights at airplane wrecks could be interesting. meanwhile in the real war... 426162;1387435407;benkay;nubbins`: but rational market participants won't buy if their investment never returns, so how does unprofitable mining work forever? 426163;1387435413;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3868 @ 0.00090627 = 3.5055 BTC [-] 426164;1387435419;benkay;or even ever, as a part of the thing? 426165;1387435421;mircea_popescu;benkay well, the hash power is designed to be commodified. this means it'll always sell just a shade under average cost. 426166;1387435425;xoinfinityox;i know, im at a really topical level right now 426167;1387435433;nubbins`;benkay: rational market participants are absent, for starters 426168;1387435449;xoinfinityox;so accepting that fact as true, where is the real war? 426169;1387435453;mircea_popescu;rational market participants are individually rational. 426170;1387435488;nubbins`;benkay: the people buying mining hardware are falling over themselves trying to get it hashing as fast as possible, so they maximize their returns 426171;1387435494;benkay;some get their goods at an acceptable rate and delivered on an acceptable time, making money etc. this drives others in who make less excellent ops decisions, ruining margin. 426172;1387435506;mircea_popescu;benkay : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=201268.msg2121475#msg2121475 426173;1387435507;mircea_popescu;" Each proposal to do so looked like an immediate winner. Measured by standard return-on-investment tests, in fact, these proposals usually promised greater economic benefits than would have resulted from comparable expenditures in our highly-profitable candy and newspaper businesses." 426174;1387435507;nubbins`;sure 426175;1387435518;mircea_popescu;"Viewed individually, each company's capital investment decision appeared cost-effective and rational; viewed collectively, the decisions neutralized each other and were irrational, just as happens when each person watching a parade decides he can see a little better if he stands on tiptoes." 426176;1387435648;benkay;your lessons as always appreciated. 426177;1387435663;benkay;apparently i had to read that post 5 times before it made sense in context. 426178;1387435675;benkay;and must read it another 5 for penance. 426179;1387435681;mircea_popescu;that's ok, i just keep linking the same shit over and over. 426180;1387435688;mircea_popescu;surprisingly, it still delivers benefits way past the 5th repetition. 426181;1387435755;nubbins`;re: textiles 426182;1387435758;mircea_popescu;anyway, that;'s a particularly well fit quote. if only the various twentysomething ex-geek now bitcoin financiers & investors had a financial culture. 426183;1387435829;nubbins`;the 2008 meltdown caused cotton prices to skyrocket for a few months in late 2010 426184;1387435855;nubbins`;~4x normal 426185;1387435869;nubbins`;this was right around the time i started printing 426186;1387435891;nubbins`;spent several months wondering where the fuck these people on the forums were getting $2 blanks until i realized that was a thing of the past 426187;1387435918;mircea_popescu;ha. 426188;1387436084;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.0629 = 0.629 BTC [+] 426189;1387436572;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC 426190;1387436618;nubbins`;doge is kind of taking over the public consciousness, hey? 426191;1387436667;truff1es;irc public* 426192;1387436668;mircea_popescu;notrly. 426193;1387436735;mircea_popescu;it tried about a decade ago too, failed then too. 426194;1387436805;nubbins`;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjzDl93HIFo 426195;1387436805;ozbot;Leonard Cohen - The Partisan / ISLE OF WIGHT 1970 - YouTube 426196;1387436858;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: That just means Doge has passed critical mass. Expect Old meme to set in soon. 426197;1387436901;jurov;first came drama-backed currency, then meme-backed, what's next? 426198;1387436917;benkay;meme:silver::drama:gold 426199;1387436938;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.281 BTC [+] 426200;1387436946;xoinfinityox;next is ryan gosling-backed 426201;1387436964;xoinfinityox;i don't have a hey girl coin joke yet tho :( 426202;1387437020;BingoBoingo;xoinfinityox: That's totally old meme, worthless for coining 426203;1387437062;benkay;genesis block must be at least not be rotting on the floor stinking of irrelevancy. 426204;1387437100;xoinfinityox;im ryan gosling irl, screw you guys 426205;1387437113;mircea_popescu;doge was old meme in 2007 426206;1387437150;benkay;but now it's MRRRNSTRRRRM. 426207;1387437162;nubbins`;heh. 426208;1387437182;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 154 @ 0.00273997 = 0.422 BTC [+] {2} 426209;1387437192;truff1es;ryan gosling is hot good choice ! 426210;1387437202;benkay;http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/18/world/asia/outrage-in-india-over-female-diplomats-arrest-in-new-york.html?src=recg&_r=0 426211;1387437226;benkay;security apparatus recruitment pitch: "meet strange new people! put your hand up their butts!" 426212;1387437296;mircea_popescu;muricans gotta get it in their square jawed skulls that there's a difference between the rich and the poor, and confusing this difference will get you exterminated. 426213;1387437333;mircea_popescu;fucking travesty of justice, to pretend like you can meddle with the top tier. 426214;1387437363;benkay;who's going to get exterminated, mp? 426215;1387437424;jurov;BingoBoingo: you do realize that you have one searchable cavity less? 426216;1387437449;BingoBoingo;jurov: Sure, but I had no cavities searched. 426217;1387437482;truff1es;is sticking things in the peen a thing? 426218;1387437494;BingoBoingo;;;ud sound docking 426219;1387437495;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Sound%20Docking | The act of inserting one's penis into another man's urethra. See also Sounding and Docking. 426220;1387437495;ozbot;Urban Dictionary: Sound Docking 426221;1387437513;mircea_popescu;benkay anyone who believes that, to quote asciilifeform's earlier quoted article, "the U.S. government expects laws to be followed by everyone in the USA" may translate as hassling a foreign high class person 426222;1387437522;truff1es;i mean like coke silly 426223;1387437533;xoinfinityox;you stick that in your butt 426224;1387437539;BingoBoingo;;;ud sounding 426225;1387437540;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sounding | The practice of inserting plastic or metal 'sounds' (long thin and very smooth objects) into yours or someone elses uretha. Ultimately leads to str... 426226;1387437541;ozbot;Urban Dictionary: sounding 426227;1387437542;KRS|Gotyawallet;(_._) 426228;1387437545;xoinfinityox;;;ud boofing 426229;1387437546;mircea_popescu;or, for the earlier example, anyone who imagines a lower court us judge has the authority to detain strauss, and the testimony of a hotel maid can serve as basis for such 426230;1387437546;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=boofing | The act of inserting drugs into the anus for a longer trip. Most often occurs at Disco Biscuits shows by spun-out kids on ketamine. 426231;1387437547;ozbot;Urban Dictionary: boofing 426232;1387437548;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.04515011 = 0.2258 BTC [-] 426233;1387437590;mircea_popescu;there's just no room in the world for such nonsense. you can arrest a bum because some other bum said so. 426234;1387437608;mircea_popescu;powerful people get their own courts and their own procedures or else. 426235;1387437642;benkay;nobody's getting their head chopped off in that case. 426236;1387437651;xoinfinityox;its true 426237;1387437658;xoinfinityox;they have special id cards and everything 426238;1387437676;mircea_popescu;xoinfinityox well apparently they don't anymore, not in india. 426239;1387437731;mircea_popescu;anyway, this pedestrian equalitariansm has gone way beyond far enough. 426240;1387437749;truff1es;what evidence did they expect to find with a strip search i dunno what that was about 426241;1387437780;BingoBoingo;truff1es: Brown skin not created by a spray tan 426242;1387437801;truff1es;yea but it said state department ordered.. 426243;1387437806;xoinfinityox;its an amurrica thing 426244;1387437808;BingoBoingo;Never know when you might find a Kardashian as opposed to an actual foreigner 426245;1387437835;benkay;state department ordered just means that someone in the state department decided she needed a fist up the pooper. 426246;1387437855;truff1es;umk 426247;1387437908;xoinfinityox;thats how we send a message in modern politics 426248;1387437922;xoinfinityox;used to be you sent a fleet of ships out and blockaded a small island nation 426249;1387437945;mircea_popescu;except the message is "we're much too big for our breeches, please take us down three notches." 426250;1387437948;BingoBoingo;There are exactly 3 rules for being minimally hassled upon arrest in the United States: 1. Be white and hava a shitty American Accent 2. Wear a suit 3. Don't smell like a hobo 426251;1387437958;mircea_popescu;and it deffo shall be done. 426252;1387438001;xoinfinityox;mircea: isn't that the whole point of this channel? :) 426253;1387438003;benkay;it's not simply los estados unidos, however, it's the entire fiat system. usg simply sits atop it for the meantime. 426254;1387438017;mircea_popescu;xoinfinityox sort-of. notrly, i think the point of this channel is more like, hm. 426255;1387438022;mircea_popescu;what was the point of this channel again ? 426256;1387438036;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18102 @ 0.00090466 = 16.3762 BTC [-] {3} 426257;1387438036;truff1es;chattery 426258;1387438039;benkay;freedom 426259;1387438040;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: I think the point was not being -otc? 426260;1387438082;truff1es;i must say the "rules" in here are the more free in rooms ive frequented 426261;1387438091;mircea_popescu;i seem to remember simpleminded psychopathy was on the list. 426262;1387438114;truff1es;laissez faire kinda thing 426263;1387438120;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: I thought the simpleminded part was refuted... 426264;1387438126;xoinfinityox;unless there is an invisible hand up your anus 426265;1387438219;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.28799999 = 0.576 BTC [+] {2} 426266;1387438227;benkay;actually that does bring up a good point: the difference between psychotic and psychopathic 426267;1387438263;BingoBoingo;benkay: THe difference is that Vitamin H can surpress the former, but not the latter 426268;1387438292;truff1es;violent social behavior hmm 426269;1387438342;xoinfinityox;speaking of 426270;1387438347;xoinfinityox;im gonna go rob a 7-11 426271;1387438353;xoinfinityox;cya 426272;1387438365;BingoBoingo;(By vitamin H I mean Haloperidol and not the bullshit actual medical references are returning) 426273;1387438497;benkay;mircea_popescu is unsurpressable regardless of his psych status 426274;1387438512;benkay;i recall something about an entire litre of grain alcohol? 426275;1387438573;BingoBoingo;WHere? 426276;1387438609;truff1es;"An earlier version of this article misstated the surname of India’s national security adviser. He is Shivshankar Menon, not Moon." hehe 426277;1387438609;benkay;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-12-2013&bots=true#407028 426278;1387438612;ozbot;#bitcoin-assets log 426279;1387438738;benkay;i'm just saying 426280;1387438748;benkay;bitcoin satan is invincible 426281;1387438789;benkay;at 1m/coin, he will bathe in virgins lactation while taking their virginity six in a session 426282;1387438818;truff1es;a new legend eh 426283;1387438830;benkay;at 1b/coin he will hog-tie the entire dev team and make them watch unspeakable horrors 426284;1387438865;mircea_popescu;benkay i never liked doing virgins 426285;1387438866;benkay;or even better have their patches to the original client reviewed by his crack squad of c she-coders 426286;1387438892;mircea_popescu;crack squad of she c-coders ahahaha 426287;1387438896;mircea_popescu;crack see ? hence c. 426288;1387438906;assbot;Last 7 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1512395/plain/) 426289;1387438906;mircea_popescu;!b 7 426290;1387439001;benkay;mircea_popescu facts 426291;1387439031;benkay;must be thoroughly mixed with truth for maximum lulz 426292;1387439062;mircea_popescu;lol 426293;1387439073;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.0628 = 0.1256 BTC [-] 426294;1387439076;mircea_popescu;anyway, yes, a liter, wasn't grain alcohol tho. 426295;1387439077;mircea_popescu;plum. 426296;1387439103;benkay;what abv? 426297;1387439610;mircea_popescu;what's an abv ? 426298;1387439622;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.0629 = 0.1887 BTC [+] 426299;1387439683;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 44 @ 0.00293 = 0.1289 BTC [+] 426300;1387439868;mircea_popescu;oh. like 105-110 proof, something like that. 426301;1387440049;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 21 @ 0.27024998 = 5.6752 BTC [-] {10} 426302;1387441269;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13900 @ 0.00090606 = 12.5942 BTC [+] 426303;1387441391;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.0628 = 0.1884 BTC [-] 426304;1387444441;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.28499998 = 1.14 BTC [+] {2} 426305;1387444792;monolithik;well since I asked this question elsewhere and nobody is up, is anyone here knowledgeable about crypto? 426306;1387444842;davout;mircea_popescu: ranting about rails again heh 426307;1387444860;mircea_popescu;rar! 426308;1387444916;monolithik;anyway, is it safe to use djb's nacl library in production to encrypt messages over the wire? 426309;1387445102;mircea_popescu;too soon to tell 426310;1387445206;azi`;ruby on rails still exists? 426311;1387445293;davout;mircea_popescu: so i did a quick test but i couldn't find an order id in the stat or statjson for me to know which order the reported execution is related to 426312;1387445345;davout;i see a 'Track' field in the statjson that i don't have in the regular stat but it doesn't look like an order id 426313;1387445867;mircea_popescu;davout as to the track value, http://trilema.com/2013/mpex-improved-order-tracking/ 426314;1387445891;mircea_popescu;you diff your book too see what was hit. 426315;1387445920;davout;yeah, that was the other way i way thinking of 426316;1387445970;davout;should give the same info 426317;1387446010;mircea_popescu;azi` notrly. 426318;1387446140;davout;ok, i see how the tracking field works 426319;1387446168;davout;how about the case where an order makes it to the book but gets eaten before i get a chance to issue a stat? 426320;1387446197;davout;it'll appear in the executed orders, possibly among other executions 426321;1387446355;davout;it's not going to be ap problem for me though, curious tho 426322;1387446403;mircea_popescu;so it appears among the executed orders. you know it's executed, at what price and what qty. 426323;1387446407;mircea_popescu;how's this trouble you ? 426324;1387446494;davout;heh it doesn't, just trying to think about whether there are edge cases that your solution doesn't cover, because you know, that's what i do :) 426325;1387446522;mircea_popescu;:) 426326;1387446560;mircea_popescu;don't let me dissuiade you, it's a good thing. 426327;1387446579;davout;nobody dissuades david francois of nitpicking on edge cases 426328;1387446644;mircea_popescu;hehe 426329;1387446684;davout;but from what i understand, simply adding an order id to the reported executions isn't really trivial on your end 426330;1387446703;davout;WHERE IS YOUR PHP GOD NAO 426331;1387446725;mircea_popescu;pgp god ? 426332;1387446772;davout;heh 426333;1387446783;davout;nvm 426334;1387446820;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 5000 @ 0.0029691 = 14.8455 BTC [+] {19} 426335;1387448955;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.04878988 = 0.2439 BTC [+] 426336;1387449260;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4521 @ 0.00090347 = 4.0846 BTC [-] 426337;1387449687;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 195 @ 0.00297195 = 0.5795 BTC [+] 426338;1387449748;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 9 @ 0.0221 = 0.1989 BTC [-] 426339;1387449931;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 19 @ 0.045 = 0.855 BTC [+] 426340;1387452249;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 400 @ 0.00297197 = 1.1888 BTC [+] {3} 426341;1387453515;jurov;*snide comment about mpex edge cases* 426342;1387454012;jurov;;;ticker 426343;1387454012;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 700.0, Best ask: 704.63625, Bid-ask spread: 4.63625, Last trade: 708.99999, 24 hour volume: 65249.82276421, 24 hour low: 500.0, 24 hour high: 704.63625, 24 hour vwap: 591.30602 426344;1387454017;jurov;woo 426345;1387454055;davout;BITCOIN, Y U NO CALM DOWN 426346;1387454140;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.04878998 = 0.2439 BTC [+] 426347;1387455177;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15500 @ 0.00090121 = 13.9688 BTC [-] 426348;1387455787;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 20 @ 0.045 = 0.9 BTC [+] 426349;1387456885;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32379 @ 0.00090618 = 29.3412 BTC [+] {2} 426350;1387457495;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 45 @ 0.04878988 = 2.1955 BTC [-] 426351;1387457496;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.28499998 = 2.85 BTC [+] {4} 426352;1387457861;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 371 @ 0.0009071 = 0.3365 BTC [+] 426353;1387458379;taub;all these crypto rip-offs 426354;1387458397;taub;annoying 426355;1387459620;markedathome;I don't suppose anyone knows of how to extract private keys from the satoshidice desktop app that was around a year or so ago? 426356;1387460600;Duffer1;no idea mate, good luck 426357;1387464815;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22300 @ 0.00090501 = 20.1817 BTC [-] 426358;1387465974;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 41 @ 0.0221 = 0.9061 BTC [-] 426359;1387466015;kakobrekla;;;later tell mircea_popescu are you moving from us to eu anytime soon? http://real-agenda.com/2013/12/12/romania-decriminalizes-political-corruption/#sthash.GwpTwTna.2BLcg5JT.dpbs 426360;1387466015;gribble;The operation succeeded. 426361;1387466096;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 19 @ 0.04878997 = 0.927 BTC [+] 426362;1387466340;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10437 @ 0.00090096 = 9.4033 BTC [-] 426363;1387466401;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25937 @ 0.000898 = 23.2914 BTC [-] {2} 426364;1387466828;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.28999933 = 1.74 BTC [+] {3} 426365;1387467743;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 9 @ 0.06499997 = 0.585 BTC [+] {3} 426366;1387468170;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.0027989 = 0.112 BTC [-] 426367;1387468189;asciilifeform;;;later tell mircea_popescu '2013-12-19 09:12:30: CAM Review Complete; Order In Production' 426368;1387468268;kakobrekla;i think you have an extra space prefixed there 426369;1387468475;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 25 @ 0.05216 = 1.304 BTC [-] {7} 426370;1387468536;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.051 = 0.255 BTC [-] 426371;1387468719;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 400 @ 0.00279899 = 1.1196 BTC [+] {2} 426372;1387468720;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.29 = 1.16 BTC [+] 426373;1387469412;ThickAsThieves;France decides 'textopornographie' is French for 'sexting'+ 426374;1387469634;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00090443 = 6.8737 BTC [+] 426375;1387469677;ThickAsThieves;http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/12/19/21964503-russias-putin-pussy-riot-duo-to-be-freed-despite-disgraceful-protest 426376;1387469677;ozbot;Russia's Putin: Pussy Riot duo to be freed despite 'disgraceful' protest - World News 426377;1387469817;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17550 @ 0.00089747 = 15.7506 BTC [-] {2} 426378;1387470613;asciilifeform;;;later tell mircea_popescu '2013-12-19 09:12:30: CAM Review Complete; Order In Production' 426379;1387470614;gribble;The operation succeeded. 426380;1387470625;asciilifeform;thx, kakobrekla 426381;1387470918;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla i was in the us ?! 426382;1387470981;kakobrekla;no, romania is, it seems 426383;1387470995;mircea_popescu;but seriously, the decriminalize corruption thing is quite along the lines of my thinking. 426384;1387470998;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2012/de-ce-coruptia-nu-va-putea-fi-niciodata-eliminata/ << 2012 426385;1387470998;ozbot;De ce coruptia nu va putea fi niciodata eliminata pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 426386;1387471007;mircea_popescu;"why corruption is basically a good thing" etc. 426387;1387471063;kakobrekla;that article has too much unrecognizable words 426388;1387471081;kakobrekla;also stop burning my trilema credits 426389;1387471083;kakobrekla;im runing low. 426390;1387471112;mircea_popescu;besides, when the us says "you're taking a step back" you know you must be doing something right. 426391;1387471113;mircea_popescu;lolk 426392;1387471647;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.08599999 = 0.258 BTC [+] {3} 426393;1387472013;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.29179997 = 0.8754 BTC [+] 426394;1387472440;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.29179997 BTC [+] 426395;1387472441;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10000 @ 0.00012 = 1.2 BTC [+] 426396;1387472562;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 7594 @ 0.00012 = 0.9113 BTC [+] 426397;1387472623;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2006 @ 0.00012 = 0.2407 BTC [+] {3} 426398;1387472684;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 11190 @ 0.00012 = 1.3428 BTC [+] {3} 426399;1387472685;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 34 @ 0.00295998 = 0.1006 BTC [-] 426400;1387472745;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2073 @ 0.00012 = 0.2488 BTC [+] {3} 426401;1387472806;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2000 @ 0.00012 = 0.24 BTC [+] {2} 426402;1387472868;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 109 @ 0.00279899 = 0.3051 BTC [+] 426403;1387472989;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1737 @ 0.00012 = 0.2084 BTC [+] {3} 426404;1387473050;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3000 @ 0.00012 = 0.36 BTC [+] {3} 426405;1387473172;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2003 @ 0.00012 = 0.2404 BTC [+] {3} 426406;1387473233;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3000 @ 0.00012 = 0.36 BTC [+] {3} 426407;1387473234;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.29179997 BTC [+] 426408;1387473356;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 12 @ 0.02219999 = 0.2664 BTC [+] {3} 426409;1387473416;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2962 @ 0.00012 = 0.3554 BTC [+] {3} 426410;1387473477;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00012 = 0.12 BTC [+] 426411;1387473672;Duffer1;http://www.examiner.com/article/russian-bank-looks-to-create-new-digital-currency-to-compete-bitcoin-market 426412;1387473673;ozbot;Russian bank looks to create new digital currency to compete in Bitcoin market - National Finance Ex 426413;1387473721;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00012 = 0.12 BTC [+] 426414;1387473782;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 7311 @ 0.00012 = 0.8773 BTC [+] 426415;1387473966;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10008 @ 0.00012 = 1.201 BTC [+] {2} 426416;1387474148;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 9990 @ 0.00012 = 1.1988 BTC [+] {2} 426417;1387474209;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 80000 @ 0.00012 = 9.6 BTC [+] {2} 426418;1387474270;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2500 @ 0.00012 = 0.3 BTC [+] 426419;1387474453;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 7500 @ 0.00012 = 0.9 BTC [+] 426420;1387474454;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.29179997 = 0.5836 BTC [+] 426421;1387474636;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 90235 @ 0.00012 = 10.8282 BTC [+] {2} 426422;1387474819;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 99754 @ 0.00012 = 11.9705 BTC [+] 426423;1387475673;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 99330 @ 0.00012 = 11.9196 BTC [+] 426424;1387476161;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 99497 @ 0.00012 = 11.9396 BTC [+] {2} 426425;1387476283;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4855 @ 0.00012 = 0.5826 BTC [+] 426426;1387476405;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 95140 @ 0.00012 = 11.4168 BTC [+] 426427;1387476588;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 19912 @ 0.00012 = 2.3894 BTC [+] {2} 426428;1387476638;ThickAsThieves;so itll be like, what, 3PH of mining added this diff period? 426429;1387476650;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 20000 @ 0.00012 = 2.4 BTC [+] 426430;1387476670;ThickAsThieves;dont they know China killed bitcoin? 426431;1387476710;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 60000 @ 0.00012 = 7.2 BTC [+] 426432;1387476852;jurov;china is actually mining and trying to scare competition :) 426433;1387477076;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1700 @ 0.00012 = 0.204 BTC [+] 426434;1387477259;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 8300 @ 0.00012 = 0.996 BTC [+] 426435;1387477564;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 94258 @ 0.00012 = 11.311 BTC [+] 426436;1387478113;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10356 @ 0.0009041 = 9.3629 BTC [+] 426437;1387478235;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5000 @ 0.00012 = 0.6 BTC [+] 426438;1387478540;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10000 @ 0.00012 = 1.2 BTC [+] 426439;1387478906;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1880 @ 0.00012 = 0.2256 BTC [+] 426440;1387479886;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/cardano-xmas-blown-other-statements/ 426441;1387479887;ozbot;Cardano : Xmas blown, other statements pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 426442;1387479995;jurov;"Well managed stakeholder expectations should keep blowback to a minimum in case of failure. Supposedly we have exceptional, unmatched strengths in PR, which we now have an opportunity to test, which is valuable." 426443;1387479998;KRS|Gotyawallet;holy smokes, this is big 426444;1387479999;KRS|Gotyawallet;http://blogs.marketwatch.com/thetell/2013/12/19/overstock-com-to-accept-bitcoins-ceo-says-money-is-too-important-to-leave-in-the-hands-of-government-officials/ 426445;1387480000;jurov;srsly? 426446;1387480001;ozbot;Overstock.com to accept bitcoins; CEO says 'money is too important to leave in the hands of governme 426447;1387480013;KRS|Gotyawallet;+1000 for bitcoin 426448;1387480016;KRS|Gotyawallet;major retailer 426449;1387480030;jurov;no one gives a fuck about cardano = unmatched PR strength 426450;1387480036;mircea_popescu;jurov theory says. 426451;1387480040;mircea_popescu;lol 426452;1387480064;mircea_popescu;KRS|Gotyawallet pretty cool. 426453;1387480091;KRS|Gotyawallet;indeed had to bring the only the freshest news here to my friends in #bitcoin-assets 426454;1387480126;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 13 @ 0.05207384 = 0.677 BTC [-] {3} 426455;1387480143;mircea_popescu;i like the guy's attitude anyway. 426456;1387480166;mircea_popescu;i guess this dethrones roger ver as Bitcoin Jesus of the Used Computer Parts ? 426457;1387480187;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.05 = 0.25 BTC [-] 426458;1387480228;jurov;mircea you have used laz0rs to make cardanos? liquid cooled ones? y u no photos? 426459;1387480232;jurov;:D 426460;1387480248;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 11 @ 0.04632909 = 0.5096 BTC [-] {3} 426461;1387480265;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform can you satisfy the inquiring minds by snapping a coupla shots of the ded lazr ? 426462;1387480295;mircea_popescu;( jurov it's for cutting the plastic casing, not rly anything supersexy) 426463;1387480309;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.0009041 = 5.1534 BTC [+] 426464;1387480336;jurov;you really do think nubbins` manboobs are sexier than that? 426465;1387480371;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 120 @ 0.002799 = 0.3359 BTC [+] 426466;1387480372;jurov;sry nubs 426467;1387480538;jurov;but seriously, if asciilifeform does most of the prototype including casing himself, that calls for photo here and there 426468;1387480547;jurov;nerd porn 426469;1387480592;ThickAsThieves;http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2013/12/19/join-our-live-qa-on-thursday-is-bitcoin-a-passing-fad-or-here-to-stay/?mod=e2tw 426470;1387480593;ozbot;Join Our Live Q&A on Thursday: Is Bitcoin a Passing Fad, or Here to Stay? - MoneyBeat - WSJ 426471;1387480598;Bugpowder;overstock!?! 426472;1387480599;Bugpowder;wowo 426473;1387480618;Bugpowder;3Q2014 :( 426474;1387480633;ThickAsThieves;right after the next bubble burst 426475;1387480633;Duffer1;thas ok 426476;1387480641;Duffer1;more will come 426477;1387480665;ThickAsThieves;that link is live now btw 426478;1387480676;mircea_popescu;you got a point 426479;1387480751;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves who's "our" ? 426480;1387480765;ThickAsThieves;atm: 426481;1387480775;ThickAsThieves;Patrick Murck (BTC foundation lawyer), 426482;1387480784;ThickAsThieves;Jason Zweig, 426483;1387480790;ThickAsThieves;Paul Vigna, 426484;1387480795;ThickAsThieves;Michael Casey 426485;1387480831;ThickAsThieves;current topic is super noring security aspects 426486;1387480835;ThickAsThieves;boring* 426487;1387480876;mircea_popescu;"i think it's here to say but please don't misconstrue anything i say into grounds to sue me. also don't ask me about various milky topics re the bf" 426488;1387480883;Duffer1;how long is this discussion? 426489;1387480920;asciilifeform;photo. 426490;1387480931;asciilifeform;dead component in question is the motor driver board 426491;1387480941;asciilifeform;anyone actually wants to see this? 426492;1387480970;mircea_popescu;yes. 426493;1387481020;ThickAsThieves;"What does everyone else think about the idea of Gox allowing rapid transactions to mexico and brazil and other "cocaine rich" countries. Is this not going to create a hyper bubble? " 426494;1387481060;kakobrekla;wait is this -otc? 426495;1387481103;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla it's -otc identical flavouring. 426496;1387481161;jurov;at least i made 0.09 BTC off bitbet :D, thx mircea 426497;1387481162;ThickAsThieves;this is a chore to watch, nvm 426498;1387481169;Duffer1;lol ya 426499;1387481179;Duffer1;wat r blockchain 426500;1387481195;kakobrekla;stop printing money gavin! 426501;1387481203;Duffer1;gavin andreson, chief bitcoin scientist 426502;1387481220;kakobrekla;gavin bernankenson 426503;1387481253;ThickAsThieves;he blinded me with science! 426504;1387481287;mircea_popescu;lol chief bitcoin scientist, that's a good one 426505;1387481346;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 34700 @ 0.00012 = 4.164 BTC [+] 426506;1387481372;asciilifeform;ok photos: 426507;1387481376;asciilifeform;warning: quite boring 426508;1387481403;asciilifeform;laser cutter. quite ordinary. currently, unfortunately, has become a 'drill'. 426509;1387481406;asciilifeform;https://unsee.cc/zedumo/ 426510;1387481408;ozbot;Unsee — Secure and private temporary image hosting 426511;1387481435;asciilifeform;(why unsee? because betcha there's a plasma panel at nsa that shows these in real time...) 426512;1387481448;asciilifeform;next, the reason the latter machine has become a drill: 426513;1387481455;asciilifeform;controller removed. https://unsee.cc/wadizu/ 426514;1387481457;asciilifeform;why removed? 426515;1387481459;pankkake;oh, unsee.cc is the kind of service I was looking for 426516;1387481466;asciilifeform;because: https://unsee.cc/woduge/ 426517;1387481470;asciilifeform;magic smoke released. 426518;1387481498;asciilifeform;the end (for now.) until the new a3983 comes in from hong kong and i can lift the turd off the board and put new one in. 426519;1387481500;asciilifeform;the end. 426520;1387481651;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 750 @ 0.00296204 = 2.2215 BTC [+] {4} 426521;1387481826;asciilifeform;once again, machine in question is essentially an expensive saw. though a very precise saw. 426522;1387481861;asciilifeform;it only cuts plastics (and various other materials with relatively poor heat conductivity, such as glass.) 426523;1387481891;mircea_popescu;looks more like a glorified sewing machien, but hey. 426524;1387481920;mircea_popescu;what do i know of geek pr0ns :D 426525;1387481980;ThickAsThieves;lol why is btc-e trollbox saying I need another $99.99 to chat? 426526;1387481990;asciilifeform;squat little box on the bottom left is a chiller. 426527;1387482023;asciilifeform;nothing terribly exciting, esp. since the thing is a paperweight pending a new stepper IC 426528;1387482023;jborkl;you already used up your 1000 chat credits? 426529;1387482034;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves cause you got 99 problems ? 426530;1387482088;jborkl;new fee introduced to remove troll spam from the trollbox- $99.99 for 1000 chat credits 426531;1387482192;mircea_popescu;x.idiffs are back 426532;1387482204;mircea_popescu;pls don't be shy to report any issues. 426533;1387482227;mircea_popescu;jborkl does that mean a dime per chat line ?! 426534;1387482261;jborkl;I am just trolling 426535;1387482291;mircea_popescu;o 426536;1387482310;pankkake;too bad, that would be genius 426537;1387482358;ThickAsThieves;my guess is $100 balance is required 426538;1387482373;ThickAsThieves;to weed out troll accounts 426539;1387482432;mircea_popescu;wow, the 30btc thing is catching on! 426540;1387482440;Duffer1;ya TaT 426541;1387482453;Duffer1;min balance required for chat to function 426542;1387482467;ThickAsThieves;btc-e is growing up i guess 426543;1387482477;ThickAsThieves;next thing yknow therell be no chat box at all 426544;1387482487;Duffer1;chat is just as useless, just less spammy 426545;1387482536;ThickAsThieves;too much human mod needed 426546;1387482542;ThickAsThieves;humans are too costly 426547;1387482555;Bugpowder;You need to hold at least $100 worth of currency to chat 426548;1387482570;Bugpowder;or bitcoin 426549;1387482603;mircea_popescu; chat is just as useless, just less spammy << lol 426550;1387482612;ThickAsThieves;Bug i have more than that 426551;1387482618;ThickAsThieves;i think it has to be fiat 426552;1387482623;ThickAsThieves;denominated 426553;1387482667;mircea_popescu;btc-e doing their part to help the usd have real world value ? 426554;1387482678;Duffer1;hehe 426555;1387482690;ThickAsThieves;or maybe it doesnt count coins tied to orders? 426556;1387482757;jurov;mircea_popescu: the new lot is nowhere mentioned and the examples are presumably wrong: http://mpex.co/?mpsic=X.IDIFF.MAR 426557;1387482796;jurov;but since you have unmatched PR strength, you can gloss over such details, i guess :D 426558;1387482814;the20year2;credits to talk? wow 426559;1387482821;the20year2;I hope they don't start charging for IRC 426560;1387482835;mircea_popescu;jurov i can do aaanything. 426561;1387482847;Duffer1;borkl was trollin 426562;1387482879;mircea_popescu;the20year2 everything worthwhile will cost money eventually. 426563;1387482993;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 48 @ 0.00283666 = 0.1362 BTC [+] {3} 426564;1387483054;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 96 @ 0.00297 = 0.2851 BTC [+] 426565;1387483055;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 35 @ 0.045 = 1.575 BTC [+] 426566;1387483115;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 23 @ 0.05286954 = 1.216 BTC [+] {4} 426567;1387483173;mircea_popescu;jurov better ? 426568;1387483254;jurov;yes, much better 426569;1387483313;jurov;oh and MKOPT/SPLIT in the FAQ still suffers from this, too 426570;1387483335;mircea_popescu;yeah but updating the faq is a pain cause i had to go and get it translated ;/ 426571;1387483336;mircea_popescu;adding to the list tho 426572;1387483379;jurov;kk 426573;1387483440;mircea_popescu;the20year2 so re your listing idea, do you have your reports posted anywhere ? what's the cashflow like ? etc. 426574;1387483542;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1376 @ 0.0028 = 3.8528 BTC [-] 426575;1387483664;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 99 @ 0.02287574 = 2.2647 BTC [+] {3} 426576;1387483665;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00279899 = 0.2799 BTC [-] 426577;1387483725;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28700 @ 0.00090428 = 25.9528 BTC [+] {2} 426578;1387483725;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0487896 = 0.4879 BTC [-] 426579;1387483744;the20year2;mircea , i send out cashflow reports to all our investors now , i don't make them public. I can send over our current business plan + cashflow report if you'd want 426580;1387483778;mircea_popescu;well, i dunno how serious you are about trying to list. 426581;1387483787;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1178 @ 0.00297086 = 3.4997 BTC [+] {2} 426582;1387483794;the20year2;We're finally cashflowing from rental income, but the bigger money is from our equity gain, our total USD investment was $92,668.54 and our current asset & capital value is $192,035.16 426583;1387483804;the20year2;And that's since the last part of July 426584;1387483816;mircea_popescu;uh 426585;1387483820;mircea_popescu;how many units is 192k ?! 426586;1387483832;Duffer1;rental starter? 426587;1387483836;the20year2;units? As in properties? 426588;1387483850;the20year2;Duffer1: yes 426589;1387483850;mike_c;re: translations. I have had good success with programmatically getting good human translations from http://gengo.com/. 426590;1387483857;Duffer1;cool 426591;1387483873;mircea_popescu;the20year2 yes as in properties 426592;1387483882;the20year2;Yes, just two houses 426593;1387483886;mircea_popescu;except units, ie, independently leased parts of a property. 426594;1387483903;the20year2;In my area, the median home value is around $100k, and most of what we're looking at are going in the ~$30,000 range 426595;1387483909;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 100 @ 0.00339966 = 0.34 BTC [+] {5} 426596;1387483919;mircea_popescu;so how do you gain confidence in your equity evaluation ? 426597;1387483940;ThickAsThieves;probly holds bitcoins 426598;1387483946;the20year2;I've had 3rd parties assess the liquidation value as well as my own value estimates since I've been in the business of evaluating properties for every large financial firm in the US 426599;1387483969;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 7406 @ 0.00012 = 0.8887 BTC [+] 426600;1387483977;mircea_popescu;and what makes you confident you can efficiently deploy capital ? in what limits ? 426601;1387483989;Duffer1;are you counting btc appreciation on top of your units for your total equity #? 426602;1387484000;the20year2;No Duffer1 426603;1387484013;the20year2;That's covered in the business plan mircea_popescu. We feel that we can deploy around $100k of capital per month 426604;1387484023;the20year2;(Into new properties/purchases that is) 426605;1387484027;Duffer1;^.^ 426606;1387484055;mircea_popescu;well alright, so send the thing over. 426607;1387484063;the20year2;the BTC appreciation is another ball game and hard for me to personally value. When everything was running on bitfunder decently, our values kept doing well, even as BTC/USD started to gain 426608;1387484064;mikaeldice;Spending it seems to be the easy part :) 426609;1387484071;the20year2;Not exactly 426610;1387484104;the20year2;in this case, you have to have teams of workers to do the rehab work , qualify tenants. Sure, you can spend more money to 'just get it done', but if you do that you pay retail for everything, and you can't make money by paying what everyone else does 426611;1387484121;mircea_popescu;started is one thing. btc went up what, 50x this year. 426612;1387484156;Duffer1;sorry i haven't followed rental starter at all, are you registered DPO or did you ipo? 426613;1387484167;the20year2;dpo? 426614;1387484173;Duffer1;direct private offer 426615;1387484183;the20year2;We IPO'd on bitfunder, but are now private/direct due to them shutting down 426616;1387484202;Duffer1;but not legally registered though right? 426617;1387484214;mike_c;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=215230.0 426618;1387484216;ozbot;[Direct] RentalStarter - A Midwest Real Estate Investment Company 426619;1387484222;the20year2;Yes, we're registered in Hong Kong and the United states. The hong kong company is connected to the US one through a legal service agreement 426620;1387484238;the20year2;DBA Full Power Asia Investments LTD in Hong Kong 426621;1387484244;Duffer1;thanks, i should probably stop being lazy and just read hehe 426622;1387484437;Duffer1;registered as a company is different from being registered with the SEC (making it legal for you to distribute shares) 426623;1387484623;Duffer1;the20year2 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_public_offering 426624;1387484667;mircea_popescu;;;gettrust the20year2 426625;1387484668;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user the20year2: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=the20year2 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=the20year2 | Rated since: never 426626;1387484681;Duffer1;under 1m offering should qualify you for 504 exemption, but you still will need to register with your state, and adhere to their blue sky laws 426627;1387484710;Duffer1;if you're interested in being squeky clean that is hehe :P 426628;1387484758;the20year2;Our lawyer has made me aware of the requirements, the issue here is that I don't know of any US investors that we have, SEC allows me to file a PPM if/when I'm notified of US investors ,and since startup we've barred US investment 426629;1387484827;the20year2;We've very seriously looked at doing a DPO but I can't round up enough investment to justify it 426630;1387484844;Duffer1;ah, i was under the impression that even if you were operating in the US you'd have to register 426631;1387484859;the20year2;The company that collects funding is not in the US 426632;1387484870;Duffer1;i see 426633;1387484914;the20year2;The funds are sent to a LTD operated in the Hong Kong, of which I am not the director, there is a two way service agremeent between the two entities, according to what my personal understanding is, it can work that way. if we take on US investors, it needs to be done so at the US LLC level, and we then need to register 426634;1387484958;the20year2;We'll qualify for most US crowdfunding and DPO laws next year as we're bringing a accounting firm into the mix in Janurary when we have our first book audit 426635;1387485026;Duffer1;do you take a salary? 426636;1387485077;the20year2;I am the majority shareholder in the company, there is also a 15% management fee that comes into place. In order to comply with US tax laws, I take my dividends + management fee as salary 426637;1387485156;Duffer1;cool, looks like a solid project, good luck :) 426638;1387485190;the20year2;So far, so good. I Just thought early on that banks would be more open to adding us to portfolo lending 426639;1387485202;the20year2;If that was the case there'd be no problem and i wouldn't give a care about listing anywhere 426640;1387485202;Duffer1;hehehe 426641;1387485246;Duffer1;they'd be funding their competition in multiple ways if they backed you 426642;1387485266;Duffer1;they want dat real estate, they don't want bitcoin to live 426643;1387485548;the20year2;none of the banks i talk to know about bitcoin 426644;1387485568;the20year2;And there's no reason for me to tell them that investors are being paid in bitcoin. ALl they know is that there's a out-of-country service agreement 426645;1387485666;Duffer1;ouch 426646;1387486354;pankkake;http://pastebin.com/96m9Q4UV altcoin scene is sad 426647;1387486354;ozbot;Hi Bro, I am here from couple of years and have good knowledge on how to prom - Pastebin.com 426648;1387486446;mircea_popescu;how to prom ? 426649;1387486467;mircea_popescu;lmao jesus 426650;1387486636;KRS|Gotyawallet;i can mine an alt coin and have twice as many bitcoins in the same amount of time as mining bitcoin, selling them at an exchange 426651;1387486775;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] [PAID] 17.03088030 BTC to 13`993 shares, 121710 satoshi per share 426652;1387486807;mircea_popescu;sounds about right. 426653;1387486838;Duffer1;mircea mining doge :P 426654;1387486941;KRS|Gotyawallet;lmao 426655;1387486954;KRS|Gotyawallet;such fun 426656;1387486968;kakobrekla;theres 3 crypto coin threads on some local tech forum 426657;1387486973;Duffer1;apparently the lulz market space is profitable >.< 426658;1387486977;kakobrekla;bitcoin, litecoin and yes, dogecoin 426659;1387487000;KRS|Gotyawallet;i should prolly buy some doge everyones talking abou tit 426660;1387487019;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] [PAID] 3.85235844 BTC to 333`249 shares, 1156 satoshi per share 426661;1387487019;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12800 @ 0.00090181 = 11.5432 BTC [-] 426662;1387487036;Duffer1;there's a reddit thread about some guy buying coffee with doge 426663;1387487041;Duffer1;free coffee ftw 426664;1387487127;benkay;so tapering is a go for the states 426665;1387487322;mircea_popescu;benkay i saw that. incredible huh 426666;1387487325;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 8700 @ 0.00012 = 1.044 BTC [+] 426667;1387487384;ThickAsThieves;mp when did you last do withdrawals? 426668;1387487434;KRS|Gotyawallet;wtf someone bought ~12 BTC worth DOGE Coin: BTC 11.95468560 7969790.39827178 426669;1387487434;assbot;123! 426670;1387487452;Duffer1;amazing company! 426671;1387487452;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 426672;1387487457;KRS|Gotyawallet;such profits 426673;1387487467;Duffer1;*highfive assbot 426674;1387487471;ThickAsThieves;much amazing 426675;1387487471;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 426676;1387487489;ThickAsThieves;i dont even know this meme 426677;1387487498;ThickAsThieves;havent bothered looking into it 426678;1387487508;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 85 @ 0.00279899 = 0.2379 BTC [-] 426679;1387487519;the20year2;i wonder if the buyer is a guy i know :D 426680;1387487533;Duffer1;http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/doge 426681;1387487534;ozbot;Doge | Know Your Meme 426682;1387487555;ThickAsThieves;will not click 426683;1387487576;Duffer1;:P 426684;1387487583;pankkake;http://coinmarketcap.com/ $10M now, #8 426685;1387487583;ozbot;Crypto-Currency Market Capitalizations | Bitcoin Litecoin Peercoin Namecoin Quark ProtoShares WorldC 426686;1387487637;ThickAsThieves;maybe 1 person can pull a mil out 426687;1387487885;benkay;doge > litecoin by the end of q1 2014 426688;1387487889;benkay;mktcap 426689;1387487902;benkay;;) 426690;1387487970;pankkake;http://bitbet.us/bet/621/any-altcoin-will-surpass-litecoin-in-market-capitalization/?ref=1Eck6cgGzEb9N42CFhcsCBQhZQStoJbHRK decent odds 426691;1387487971;ozbot;BitBet - Any altcoin will surpass Litecoin in market capitalization 426692;1387488036;Duffer1;interesting 426693;1387488113;kakobreklaaa;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1t9buu/sky_broadband_has_now_decided_bitcoin_related/ 426694;1387488162;Duffer1;vpn, the only way to travel 426695;1387488205;pankkake;wow, UK. what haven't they censored yet? 426696;1387488242;Duffer1;i wonder what service Ciphermine is using... 426697;1387488294;ThickAsThieves;it's just some kids mom 426698;1387488300;ThickAsThieves;blocking websites 426699;1387488331;pankkake;they have an "optionnal" filter that is enabled by default, right? 426700;1387488339;pankkake;until it's not optionnal anymore 426701;1387488343;ThickAsThieves;dunno 426702;1387488483;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.05010001 = 0.2505 BTC [+] 426703;1387488518;mircea_popescu;jesus 426704;1387488580;the20year2;? 426705;1387488607;mircea_popescu;tho in fairness, it's more likely redditard overreacting and entry level dub speaking out of the three ring binder 426706;1387488619;mircea_popescu;than actually anything as meaningfully nefarious as the post implies. 426707;1387488636;Duffer1;probably.. but still, it is Sky 426708;1387488644;KRS|Gotyawallet;yo yo yo i want to short doge coin on bfx yo 426709;1387488666;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 30 @ 0.05010001 = 1.503 BTC [+] 426710;1387488669;pankkake;I want to short everything 426711;1387488673;pankkake;safest way to get rich 426712;1387488688;the20year2;lol 426713;1387488788;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.0228 = 0.228 BTC [-] 426714;1387488849;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 12500 @ 0.00012 = 1.5 BTC [+] 426715;1387489022;ThickAsThieves;shortest way to go short is kill yourself 426716;1387489025;ThickAsThieves;such profit 426717;1387489099;mircea_popescu;kill yourself = going 7 feet long underground 426718;1387489100;mircea_popescu;no good 426719;1387489172;pankkake;isn't it 6? 426720;1387489190;mircea_popescu;maybe your ground isn't as deep in france ? 426721;1387489281;pankkake;well, "six feet under" is widely used 426722;1387489367;mircea_popescu;:p 426723;1387489442;ThickAsThieves;maybe coffin starts at 6ft, person lies at 7ft 426724;1387489445;ThickAsThieves;you both win 426725;1387489472;ThickAsThieves;but how can we arb the difference? 426726;1387489582;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3750 @ 0.00012 = 0.45 BTC [+] 426727;1387489584;mircea_popescu;lol 426728;1387489699;ThickAsThieves;makes me recall your text on unused vagina mileage 426729;1387489735;jcpham;one-owner or multi-owner 426730;1387489751;jcpham;check the carfax 426731;1387489754;mircea_popescu;lol 426732;1387489760;Duffer1;that sounds like something i need to read 426733;1387489766;ThickAsThieves;vagfax.cum 426734;1387489826;ThickAsThieves;I'm surprised there arent more sexperience database websites 426735;1387490191;ThickAsThieves;http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/19/5183356/how-to-steal-bitcoin-in-three-easy-steps 426736;1387490192;ozbot;How to steal Bitcoin in three easy steps | The Verge 426737;1387490259;mircea_popescu;so is the verge going to be paying its staff on bitcoin, 426738;1387490270;mircea_popescu;or did they just accidentally prove they publish crap ? 426739;1387490319;ThickAsThieves;they do some stuff really well 426740;1387490328;ThickAsThieves;but yknow how these things go 426741;1387490341;ThickAsThieves;after a year or two its all ads and bullshit 426742;1387490353;ThickAsThieves;http://blog.bittorrent.com/2013/12/19/update-on-bittorrent-chat/ 426743;1387490778;mircea_popescu;pankkake http://trilema.com/2013/a-deal-can-be-anything/ << thanks for teh link 426744;1387491045;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 33 @ 0.29513114 = 9.7393 BTC [+] {13} 426745;1387492082;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.0502 = 0.3514 BTC [+] 426746;1387492146;mircea_popescu;http://bitbet.us/bet/85/nasa-finds-et/ 426747;1387492149;ozbot;BitBet - NASA finds ET 426748;1387492158;mircea_popescu;check out the bottom feeders in teh comments lol 426749;1387493546;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58162 @ 0.00090436 = 52.5994 BTC [+] {4} 426750;1387494498;benkay;!t m s.nsa 426751;1387494498;assbot;[MPEX:S.NSA] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00012 / 0.00013374 / 0.00016 (2037 shares, 0.27 BTC), 30D: 0.0001011 / 0.00010754 / 0.00016 (487679 shares, 52.45 BTC) 426752;1387494637;mike_c;excellent pr skillz prevented a freefall :) 426753;1387494644;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 50000 @ 0.001 = 50 BTC 426754;1387494681;benkay;the audience is tractable. 426755;1387495132;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.297 BTC [+] 426756;1387495164;mircea_popescu;olo 426757;1387495517;benkay;yolo! 426758;1387495899;Vexual;mircea, i was interested to see you wrote on the film the family 426759;1387495925;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 42 @ 0.29799897 = 12.516 BTC [+] {2} 426760;1387496052;Vexual;did you see something beautiful on the banal underpainting? or are you joking about evryones hardon for deniros? 426761;1387496332;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/the-family/ 426762;1387496332;ozbot;The Family pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 426763;1387497145;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.05916666 = 0.1775 BTC [+] {3} 426764;1387497422;Vexual;if you have the tools handy, try removing every frame with a face, it's a nice short film 426765;1387497572;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 150 @ 0.002836 = 0.4254 BTC [+] 426766;1387497755;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.06677775 = 0.1336 BTC [+] {2} 426767;1387497816;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.07599999 = 0.228 BTC [+] {3} 426768;1387497974;Duffer1;http://www.newsweek.com/clifford-stoll-why-web-wont-be-nirvana-185306 426769;1387497974;ozbot;Why the Web Won't Be Nirvana 426770;1387498019;Duffer1;"The truth in no online database will replace your daily newspaper" 426771;1387498061;Vexual;hiss eyes are more glazed than his orb 426772;1387498132;Vexual;he evvisions a bigger, shinier trackball with more velco 426773;1387498161;Duffer1;ha 426774;1387498189;Duffer1;needs more corduroy imo 426775;1387498609;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 842 @ 0.00012 = 0.101 BTC [+] 426776;1387498766;Vexual;another fun image processing exercise, no corduroy, no run 426777;1387498885;Vexual;orb reports fatal cord error 426778;1387499007;deadweasel;ha, the family, mildy entertaining. i'm pretty sure as US citizens, we are allowed blow up foreign groceries. 426779;1387499010;deadweasel;as long as we use drones. 426780;1387499028;deadweasel;mildly* se 426781;1387499035;deadweasel;fuck keyboards 426782;1387499572;thestringpuller;amazing 426783;1387499572;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 426784;1387499707;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.297 BTC [-] 426785;1387500317;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.297 = 0.594 BTC [-] 426786;1387500318;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.0799999 = 0.24 BTC [-] 426787;1387500622;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.08200001 = 0.164 BTC [-] {2} 426788;1387500623;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00012 = 0.12 BTC [+] 426789;1387500676;mircea_popescu;deadweasel mildewy ? 426790;1387501049;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 15000 @ 0.00012 = 1.8 BTC [+] 426791;1387501127;deadweasel;the brain, yes 426792;1387502330;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.297 = 2.97 BTC [-] 426793;1387502574;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 92 @ 0.00284965 = 0.2622 BTC [-] {3} 426794;1387502635;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26400 @ 0.00090258 = 23.8281 BTC [-] {2} 426795;1387503062;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10000 @ 0.00012 = 1.2 BTC [+] 426796;1387504466;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmIG9ujYEyM 426797;1387504466;ozbot;Peter Chung Animated Creations (6) - YouTube 426798;1387504518;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8pwUMuS8S0 426799;1387504519;ozbot;Aloe Blacc - I Need A Dollar (Ben E & Falki Remix) - YouTube 426800;1387504526;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 37 @ 0.0421892 = 1.561 BTC [-] {6} 426801;1387504587;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2063 @ 0.00012 = 0.2476 BTC [+] 426802;1387504892;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 30000 @ 0.001 = 30 BTC 426803;1387504953;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 20000 @ 0.001 = 20 BTC 426804;1387505445;Vexual;nubbins' how foes the rainbow vomit? 426805;1387505533;Vexual;your macig fountain bar installation 426806;1387505703;KRS|Gotyawallet;hey Vexual 426807;1387505713;Vexual;hello 426808;1387505768;nubbins`;ah. we didn't have enough time to make a rainbow vomit 426809;1387505774;nubbins`;had to settle for rainbow streamers ;( 426810;1387505811;Vexual;did it provide a model of a frame of reference where light only behaves as a wave and shit? 426811;1387505845;nubbins`;in fact, the room filled up with vibrations 426812;1387505882;Vexual;amazing 426813;1387505882;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 426814;1387507454;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 15000 @ 0.00012 = 1.8 BTC [+] 426815;1387507637;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.297 = 2.079 BTC [-] 426816;1387507796;Vexual;reading popescue is like nos, theres that numbing confusion that might be funny, but you don't know where you're sitting, a fruity dry nose of old wood and nosferatu, and a defined sense of nostradamus lingering on the palette. 426817;1387507821;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8334 @ 0.00090338 = 7.5288 BTC [+] 426818;1387507929;nubbins`;http://imgur.com/a/qfFCe 426819;1387507930;ozbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 426820;1387507967;nubbins`;that's the past 24 hours for me 426821;1387508051;Vexual;nice, i really like it just as the first colour even 426822;1387508113;nubbins`;nod 426823;1387508138;nubbins`;thanks 426824;1387508197;nubbins`;super last minute job, almost didn't get it done on time 426825;1387508220;nubbins`;i was wrapping up the stack of prints like 25 minutes before the doors opened at the venue :0 426826;1387508247;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.27662001 BTC [-] 426827;1387508308;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.27660003 BTC [-] 426828;1387508309;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4590 @ 0.00012 = 0.5508 BTC [+] 426829;1387508325;Vexual;so theyre souveneirs mor e than advertising? 426830;1387508404;nubbins`;yeah, they're selling them at the show as merch 426831;1387508429;nubbins`;way too expensive to post outdoors ;D 426832;1387508439;Vexual;hot off the press baby, tres cool 426833;1387508520;nubbins`;thanks 426834;1387508525;nubbins`;went delirious earlier 426835;1387508528;nubbins`;up til 4am printing 426836;1387508537;nubbins`;then awake again this morning & nothing to eat but 2 cookies 426837;1387508541;nubbins`;until 6pm 426838;1387508548;nubbins`;ink fumes 426839;1387508550;nubbins`;&c 426840;1387508551;gribble;Error: "c" is not a valid command. 426841;1387508653;BingoBoingo;;;asks 1000 426842;1387508657;gribble;There are currently 12892.122 bitcoins offered at or under 1000.0 USD, worth 10964663.8696 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0757 seconds 426843;1387508863;Vexual;https://twitter.com/Omar_Gaza/status/413762734602194944/photo/1 426844;1387508864;ozbot;Twitter / Omar_Gaza: #Gaza: Evacuating an elderly ... 426845;1387509589;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.0475 = 0.57 BTC [-] 426846;1387510415;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pduLqCiq1YM 426847;1387510416;ozbot;Ed Sheeran & Passenger - No Diggity vs. Thrift Shop (Kygo Remix) - YouTube 426848;1387510507;KRS|Gotyawallet;hmmm 426849;1387510510;KRS|Gotyawallet;this deserves a play 426850;1387510599;KRS|Gotyawallet;Vexual: Highly recommended: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6MPfX1ISC0 426851;1387510610;KRS|Gotyawallet;That bitch is hawt 426852;1387510632;Vexual;stones no longer safe on earth 426853;1387510758;KRS|Gotyawallet;Vexual this song is great 426854;1387510809;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1350 @ 0.00012 = 0.162 BTC [+] {2} 426855;1387510953;Vexual;bueno 426856;1387510992;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 300 @ 0.0028 = 0.84 BTC [-] 426857;1387511252;Vexual;http://vimeo.com/30567004 426858;1387511253;ozbot;Maroon 5 - Moves Like Jagger on Vimeo 426859;1387511307;Vexual;salut 426860;1387511785;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00012 = 0.12 BTC [+] 426861;1387511804;KRS|Gotyawallet;Vexual did you like that song Rosana 426862;1387511816;KRS|Gotyawallet;video is hilarious 426863;1387511846;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 150 @ 0.001 = 0.15 BTC 426864;1387511873;nubbins`;i can't stop staring at that poster 426865;1387511877;nubbins`;so proud ;( 426866;1387511948;Vexual;do you do art prints for galleries nubules? 426867;1387511987;nubbins`;we've had prints that we've done in galleries 426868;1387511991;nubbins`;not our own works though 426869;1387511995;Vexual;yes i did like that video krs 426870;1387512028;nubbins`;like that poster i linked isn't our design 426871;1387512030;nubbins`;we just printed it 426872;1387512047;Vexual;so u ink stuff for artists to sell for 100s? 426873;1387512095;Vexual;u should hop a train to nyc 426874;1387512135;nubbins`;heh 426875;1387512139;nubbins`;nah, too busy 426876;1387512155;nubbins`;but yes, that's a thing we do 426877;1387512163;nubbins`;hundreds is a bit less common 426878;1387512205;nubbins`;great way for people to make money tho. sell posters for like 20-30+ each 426879;1387512222;Vexual;yeah, looks like decent parchment u got there 426880;1387512225;nubbins`;costs maybe 6-10 to print them 426881;1387512240;nubbins`;nice cotton rag paper 426882;1387512247;Vexual;u make decent nmoney to stay up all night 426883;1387512250;nubbins`;acid free 426884;1387512281;nubbins`;it's not about what you make, it's about what you spend :D 426885;1387512286;Vexual;nod 426886;1387512395;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 75 @ 0.002836 = 0.2127 BTC [-] 426887;1387512558;Vexual;http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cc/Oz-31-p1and2.jpg 426888;1387512567;Vexual;this is from an old sydney zine 426889;1387512649;nubbins`;siiiick 426890;1387512656;nubbins`;that thing on the left 426891;1387512659;nubbins`;:o 426892;1387512673;Vexual;that issue is floating around pdf style 426893;1387512753;nubbins`;we do a fully silkscreened zine once a year 426894;1387512776;nubbins`;too costly to hand print the insides generally 426895;1387512828;nubbins`;but it's nice to just hemorrhage money once in a while and produce something that challenges you 426896;1387513493;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00090483 = 2.8955 BTC [+] {2} 426897;1387513676;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.0487896 = 0.5367 BTC [+] 426898;1387514103;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00012 = 0.12 BTC [+] 426899;1387514104;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1340 @ 0.00043287 = 0.58 BTC [-] {8} 426900;1387514138;Vexual;http://thoughtcrime.org/blog/telegram-crypto-challenge/ 426901;1387514138;ozbot;Moxie Marlinspike >> Blog >> A Crypto Challenge For The Telegram Developers 426902;1387514591;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12740 @ 0.00090578 = 11.5396 BTC [+] 426903;1387515506;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 838 @ 0.00012 = 0.1006 BTC [+] 426904;1387515518;mircea_popescu;.d 426905;1387515519;ozbot;908350862.43702 | Next Diff in 198 blocks | Estimated Change: 31.2912% in 0d 22h 36m 44s 426906;1387515528;mircea_popescu;30% o.o 426907;1387515598;mircea_popescu;i have no idea who "owen gunden" is and even less of an idea why he thinks he's in a position to play the expert in this space. 426908;1387515603;mircea_popescu;KRS|Gotyawallet ^ 426909;1387515645;KRS|Gotyawallet;ya 426910;1387515651;KRS|Gotyawallet;right 426911;1387515672;KRS|Gotyawallet;figured you'd find that interesting so i shared 426912;1387515707;Vexual;gay hat 426913;1387515770;Vexual;came on the front of a magazine just like red hat 426914;1387515830;Vexual;marie claire? whoops, i wanted android developer 426915;1387515832;mircea_popescu;dork parade. 426916;1387515840;mircea_popescu;but anyways. 426917;1387515891;Vexual;trotsky wore a nice hat ya? 426918;1387515933;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00090578 = 3.6231 BTC [+] 426919;1387515933;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 233 @ 0.00045 = 0.1049 BTC [+] 426920;1387516113;Vexual;that shit prevents brain injury 426921;1387516159;Duffer1;nice hats? 426922;1387516177;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 5000 @ 0.001 = 5 BTC 426923;1387516185;Vexual;my alologies 426924;1387516207;mircea_popescu;kinda lulzy anyway. 426925;1387516246;Vexual;tis the season 426926;1387516332;mircea_popescu;"let 426927;1387516352;mircea_popescu;s pretend there doesn;t exist a $1bn+ player around and our 5mn start-up could matter" 426928;1387516356;mircea_popescu;nice season. 426929;1387516365;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ka4ZPBLz9NI 426930;1387516366;ozbot;Bunny Wailer - Bald Head Jesus - YouTube 426931;1387516807;kakobrekla;imgur.com/Wppk2o2 426932;1387516816;kakobrekla;http://imgur.com/Wppk2o2 426933;1387516816;ozbot;a basic primer on economics (for new users) - Imgur 426934;1387516826;KRS|Gotyawallet;Player indeed 426935;1387516834;Vexual;hows pankakkes economics lesson going? 426936;1387516873;KRS|Gotyawallet;we've all seen those startups with fancy logos and names you've never heard of before..in almost any industry or service offering 426937;1387516890;KRS|Gotyawallet;some almost seemed like a packaged deal you can buy online 426938;1387516905;KRS|Gotyawallet;real tight and lulzy 426939;1387516922;KRS|Gotyawallet;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJVmu6yttiw 426940;1387516922;ozbot;SKRILLEX - Bangarang feat. Sirah [Official Music Video] - YouTube 426941;1387517232;KRS|Gotyawallet;IPO in a box 426942;1387517277;KRS|Gotyawallet;Just name your board and officers allow 4-6 weeks for delivery. Attorneys fees, filing and taxes extra. 426943;1387517297;KRS|Gotyawallet;'Shells R Us' 426944;1387517363;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XiYUYcpsT4 426945;1387517364;ozbot;Bob Marley - I Shot The Sheriff - YouTube 426946;1387517875;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1mo75mKFJ0 426947;1387517876;ozbot;DJ Algoriddim: King Pharoahs Plague (Yabby U, Vivian Jackson, Tommy McCook, King Tubby) - YouTube 426948;1387517878;mircea_popescu;one of these days some us kid is going to pay attention in school, and thus hear about this "flying with machines heavier than air" new idea 426949;1387517907;mircea_popescu;and before you know it there's going to be a bloweing start-up in virginia, which is going to maybe one day have airplane flights among cities! 426950;1387517919;mircea_popescu;like you know, a regular thing! creativity! revolution! 426951;1387517936;Vexual;theres a great ultralight crash on liveleak 426952;1387517946;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 679 @ 0.002836 = 1.9256 BTC [-] 426953;1387517952;Vexual;gotta start somewhere 426954;1387517989;Vexual;land, stroke beard, kick thing with adrenalin 426955;1387518031;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: the startup of steam! will have to come first. 426956;1387518052;mircea_popescu;nah, there's no multi billion dollar steam company already in business 426957;1387518057;asciilifeform;(as described here - http://www.loper-os.org/?p=388) 426958;1387518058;mircea_popescu;thus therefore it's not a hot subject. 426959;1387518071;mircea_popescu;notice how kids play about being cavalry officers on their wooden horse cca 1800 426960;1387518073;mircea_popescu;but not 2000 ? 426961;1387518078;mircea_popescu;now they're tank commanders. 426962;1387518098;asciilifeform;i did both... 426963;1387518106;mircea_popescu;i never did the tank thing. 426964;1387518311;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lOnYL1uSuc 426965;1387518311;ozbot;Machete Kills TV SPOT - President Carlos (2013) - Charlie Sheen Movie HD - YouTube 426966;1387518936;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8KDW80qLXs 426967;1387518937;ozbot;Johnny Vegas - The Late Late Show | Behind The Scenes - YouTube 426968;1387519743;Vexual;why is there an mpex logo on that stones track>? 426969;1387519757;Vexual;illuminati/? 426970;1387520000;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkMg_X9lHMc 426971;1387520000;ozbot;Marteria - Kids (2 Finger an den Kopf) [Offizielles Video] - YouTube 426972;1387520258;Vexual;hey smidge, im getting thirsty 426973;1387520290;Vexual;please don't forget about me 426974;1387520508;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1530 @ 0.00012 = 0.1836 BTC [+] 426975;1387520630;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 172 @ 0.00299336 = 0.5149 BTC [+] {5} 426976;1387520684;Vexual;you sure get all english as a second language when you don't like the content smidge 426977;1387520920;Vexual;you be 3 million euro in the hole, and all i get is distain 426978;1387521024;truffles;ure super broke vexual? 426979;1387521081;Vexual;sure 426980;1387521151;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UH1Rs6LSvBs 426981;1387521151;ozbot;transvision vamp - i want your love - YouTube 426982;1387521161;truffles;i can loan u 6 bux to get u back on ur feat 426983;1387521170;Vexual;thanks brah 426984;1387521183;truffles;no prob 426985;1387521197;truffles;u can turn it into 600 in no time 426986;1387521218;Vexual;in a week 426987;1387521240;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 7 @ 0.0227 = 0.1589 BTC [+] 426988;1387521301;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 12 @ 0.02215833 = 0.2659 BTC [-] {3} 426989;1387521334;truffles;i believe she wants that love 426990;1387521357;Vexual;ironicly im sure that song gets a cheque 426991;1387521403;truff1es;hehe 426992;1387521457;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0A3-wc0rpw more cool hatz 426993;1387521458;ozbot;Pharrell Williams - Happy (12AM) - YouTube 426994;1387521484;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.0487896 = 0.4391 BTC [+] 426995;1387521579;truff1es;my fav pharrell song is 426996;1387521661;truff1es;cant remember the name 426997;1387521699;Vexual;youre shit in so many ways truffles 426998;1387521712;truff1es;:8 426999;1387521720;truff1es;why u say that 427000;1387521740;Vexual;well its self evident to me 427001;1387521762;truff1es;u want hurt my feelings is that it 427002;1387521779;Vexual;my apologies 427003;1387521802;truff1es;ure sorry now? pfff 427004;1387521817;Vexual;whoa, are u esl too? 427005;1387521845;truff1es;esl ? 427006;1387521858;truff1es;:D 427007;1387522369;Vexual;u play mostor hunter truffles? 427008;1387522395;truff1es;no? 427009;1387522423;Vexual;oh 427010;1387522463;KRS|Gotyawallet;anyone see this article 427011;1387522464;KRS|Gotyawallet;http://www.businessinsider.com/williams-bitcoin-meltdown-10-2013-12 427012;1387522465;ozbot;The Bitcoin Meltdown Has Begun - Business Insider 427013;1387522567;KRS|Gotyawallet;THIS is why we need to move our assets to dogecoin. 427014;1387522624;Vexual;some of the new new sers will get it in a year 427015;1387522687;BingoBoingo;KRS|Gotyawallet: That article basically reads as 'Murica can't bitcoin so I hate Bitcoin 427016;1387522705;Vexual;murica bitcoins hard 427017;1387522750;BingoBoingo;KRS|Gotyawallet: And nevar forget that 'Murica isn't even 'Murican enough for Duck Dynasty 427018;1387522750;KRS|Gotyawallet;None of those comments address these concerns. 427019;1387522754;mircea_popescu;lol meltdown my foot. 427020;1387522762;KRS|Gotyawallet;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIqtApWRtEM 427021;1387522762;ozbot;Public Enemy No. 1 - Public Enemy - YouTube 427022;1387522768;truff1es;monster hunter looks like role playing vexual 427023;1387522775;mircea_popescu;someone should save all this retardedness so we can mock "mainstream" media later on. 427024;1387522812;KRS|Gotyawallet;Those seem like valid concerns. These comments are simply just ignoring the issues. 427025;1387522838;mircea_popescu;what valid concern specifically ? 427026;1387522855;KRS|Gotyawallet;Anyone have a good rebuttal for any of the concerns illustrated in the article? 427027;1387522860;mircea_popescu;... 427028;1387522862;KRS|Gotyawallet;I shall pick one. 427029;1387522868;mircea_popescu;go ahead 427030;1387522904;KRS|Gotyawallet;im not debating or questioning anyone's expertise here. I'm curious because these seem pretty legit. 427031;1387522956;KRS|Gotyawallet;ok so the comment about inflation can be dismissed- 427032;1387522957;Vexual;.... 427033;1387522964;mircea_popescu;well so which are the concerns ? 427034;1387522998;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2012/the-problem-of-too-much-money/ << the cannonical "inflation concern" rebuttal. 427035;1387522999;ozbot;The problem of too much money pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 427036;1387523011;KRS|Gotyawallet;Bitcoin has not taken off as a transactional currency and is further undermined by the fact that the majority of Bitcoin owners hoard e-coins. The more hoarded the less available to buy goods and services and spur economic growth. 427037;1387523011;KRS|Gotyawallet;Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/williams-bitcoin-meltdown-10-2013-12#ixzz2nzpQ4sy0 427038;1387523039;KRS|Gotyawallet;That seems pretty valid. 427039;1387523042;mircea_popescu;"transactional currency" is a meaningless string created to give the appearance of depth to a nonsense piece of posturing. 427040;1387523057;KRS|Gotyawallet;However, much of the supply is in the hands of a few. 427041;1387523060;mircea_popescu;bitcoin is and was a store of value. this is trilema 2012, 427042;1387523064;Vexual;he sung that ax withought a breath 427043;1387523076;mircea_popescu;and in general these "professors" and "experts" would do a lot better reading more and talking less. 427044;1387523094;KRS|Gotyawallet;so supply isn't a problem.. 427045;1387523107;mircea_popescu;gold is not "a transactional currency" either. 427046;1387523113;mircea_popescu;who cares and why is it a topic ? 427047;1387523125;truff1es;lol! 427048;1387523126;Vexual;satoshi was very wizard 427049;1387523131;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.0487896 = 0.7318 BTC [+] 427050;1387523145;BingoBoingo;I think I said this yesterday, but even the hardest core bitcoiners will still burn fiat for toothpaste instead of BTC 427051;1387523162;BingoBoingo;BTC isn't consumer stuff 427052;1387523164;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo of course. grisham's law. 427053;1387523174;mircea_popescu;bad money driving the good into the storwe of value function 427054;1387523192;mircea_popescu;basically "btc is not a transactional currency" is a fancy way of saying "the usd is shit, so everyone'd rather spend that" 427055;1387523233;Vexual;and your avergae bc user prolly has a better about whats going on that your average dollar user 427056;1387523241;truff1es;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObJEYeqXPhg 427057;1387523241;ozbot;Amaranthe - It's All About Me (Rain) [ALBUM QUALITY] with lyrics - YouTube 427058;1387523249;Vexual;a dumb statistic, but worth noting 427059;1387523285;KRS|Gotyawallet;You know what, I analyzed this article but i actually applied critical thinking this time..initially, I didn't. It really is a bunch of bullshit. None of the points were backed by good examples. 427060;1387523293;Vexual;if you want to really dumb it down, look at early adopters and the skillset and motivation 427061;1387523295;KRS|Gotyawallet;I actually can't cite anything else from the article. 427062;1387523307;KRS|Gotyawallet;It really is propaganda. 427063;1387523317;mircea_popescu;yw. 427064;1387523322;Vexual;thats why hes only worked there for 3 weeks 427065;1387523326;KRS|Gotyawallet;i had to read it 3 times. 427066;1387523360;KRS|Gotyawallet;its like..i read these rags, but my emotions get tied up because i have an investment in it..and admittedly i let it get the best of me. 427067;1387523367;BingoBoingo;KRS|Gotyawallet: Welcome to Business Insider, the Buzzfeed of financial reporting 427068;1387523369;mircea_popescu;yup. 427069;1387523375;mircea_popescu;it's how they're designed to work. 427070;1387523382;KRS|Gotyawallet;Critical thinking is hard to weild when your emotions are part of the equation. 427071;1387523387;Vexual;elvis said you can ignore space and time, don't mean you have to 427072;1387523408;BingoBoingo;KRS|Gotyawallet: Use vodka to blunt the emotions. What could go wrong? 427073;1387523417;KRS|Gotyawallet;wow, thanks guys i actually feel enlightened. 427074;1387523436;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14250 @ 0.00090421 = 12.885 BTC [-] 427075;1387523436;KRS|Gotyawallet;i've tried to tear this thing apart..i can't. 427076;1387523454;truff1es;u care too much KRS, go drink it off ldo 427077;1387523480;Vexual;what type of investment do you think you have krs? 427078;1387523510;KRS|Gotyawallet;all else aside, i think we all have the investment of time. and that in itself is most valuable. (C) 2013. 427079;1387523542;KRS|Gotyawallet;lol ya my drinking days were left behind in college..wouldn't mind sparking up some fine herb though..pass the j 427080;1387523668;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgWUnuB6quc 427081;1387523669;ozbot;Bob Marley Small Axe - YouTube 427082;1387523712;KRS|Gotyawallet;BingoBoingo: Business Insider a well known rag? 427083;1387523719;Vexual;kinda 427084;1387523744;Vexual;and thusly not ashamed to throw some muppet under a bus 427085;1387523753;KRS|Gotyawallet;guilty 427086;1387523754;BingoBoingo;KRS|Gotyawallet: Business Insider is actually rather new. They made the decision to be glossy toilet paper from the start though. 427087;1387523765;KRS|Gotyawallet;hehe 427088;1387523774;KRS|Gotyawallet;now i know 427089;1387523801;KRS|Gotyawallet;kind of disappointed in myself for not using critical thinking 427090;1387523802;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 48 @ 0.00283 = 0.1358 BTC [-] 427091;1387523811;KRS|Gotyawallet;gotta work on that 427092;1387523816;BingoBoingo;KRS|Gotyawallet: It is like upworthy or any other non-content enterprise. Business Insider sells titles to get links. 427093;1387523863;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 8835 @ 0.00012 = 1.0602 BTC [+] 427094;1387523876;KRS|Gotyawallet;shame..curious, what would be a good publication? i like to read the marketplace in wsj 427095;1387523907;Vexual;i buy fortune if i want to look flashy on the plane 427096;1387523910;mircea_popescu;theuy all kinda went to shit 427097;1387523936;Vexual;the format covers a penthouse 427098;1387523960;truff1es;washington journal got bought by whatshisface 427099;1387523960;KRS|Gotyawallet;npr has a business section, i know its radio but everything is available on the website 427100;1387523983;Vexual;people still read time 427101;1387524028;BingoBoingo;KRS|Gotyawallet: For Bitcoin to the best of my knowledge reputable sources consist of Trilema, The Genesis Block, and thedrinkingrecord.com 427102;1387524057;KRS|Gotyawallet;BingoBoingo thanks I'll check those out. 427103;1387524143;Vexual;i read afr in black and white sometimes, but i need a big pinch of salt, some dos guanos and a lime 427104;1387524153;KRS|Gotyawallet;afr? 427105;1387524168;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13452 @ 0.0009018 = 12.131 BTC [-] {3} 427106;1387524174;KRS|Gotyawallet;honestly..there's nothing like a brand new PENTHOUSE 427107;1387524175;Vexual;aussie financial rag 427108;1387524179;KRS|Gotyawallet;ah 427109;1387524192;Vexual;why do they put penthouse in airports? 427110;1387524208;KRS|Gotyawallet;Hahaaha 427111;1387524216;KRS|Gotyawallet;remember CLUB, HUSTLER 427112;1387524228;KRS|Gotyawallet;my favs 427113;1387524326;KRS|Gotyawallet;http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51n-Xua%2BY0L._SL500_AA300_.jpg 427114;1387524340;Vexual;yeah, we get it 427115;1387524505;KRS|Gotyawallet;sorry didnt mean to make you uncomfortable there vexual 427116;1387524515;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGYAAsHT4QE 427117;1387524516;ozbot;Bob Marley Three little birds (Original) - YouTube 427118;1387524536;Vexual;fuck no, i hop on the plane open that shit and let murphys law sit a tight little hottie next to me 427119;1387524545;BingoBoingo;KRS|Gotyawallet: Some people want to be in the mile high club, but the only willing partner they care to find is their hand 427120;1387524576;Vexual;toast lands butter down so i vegemite the floor 427121;1387524588;KRS|Gotyawallet;haha 427122;1387524603;Vexual;no problemas 427123;1387524747;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6MPfX1ISC0 427124;1387524747;ozbot;Wax Rosana Official Music Video - YouTube 427125;1387524866;Vexual;dos guanos gringo 427126;1387524920;Vexual;stones no longer safe on earth 427127;1387524925;Vexual;olo 427128;1387525022;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00090169 = 7.484 BTC [-] 427129;1387525079;Vexual;let me run it thru orb 427130;1387525217;Vexual;nothing 427131;1387525358;Vexual;smarthouse my arse 427132;1387525536;Vexual;yes i have an autistic computer 427133;1387525566;Vexual;invented before the internet 427134;1387525628;Vexual;fuck you google labs 427135;1387525674;BingoBoingo;Vexual: I am impressed. I merely have pre-web computers. Nothing pre Internet though 427136;1387525738;Vexual;wait, when did the internet start? 427137;1387525819;mircea_popescu;1960s 427138;1387525833;Vexual;in any case i chucked that first machine learning package whos name i forget out 20 yearsa ago 427139;1387525876;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13194 @ 0.00089985 = 11.8726 BTC [-] {2} 427140;1387525885;BingoBoingo;1969 or 1981 depending on which networks whould be counted as Internet proper and not that Goofy intelligence leak the Air Force ran 427141;1387525918;Vexual;was ip just a joke for plebs? 427142;1387525938;Vexual;they dont use ip on subs 427143;1387525955;BingoBoingo;Vexual: Subs have IP 427144;1387525968;Vexual;yeah? 427145;1387525987;Vexual;just more wires? 427146;1387526011;Vexual;were talking internet protocol here right? 427147;1387526011;BingoBoingo;I'm inclined to take 1981 as the birth of the capital "I" internet though the technologies have been brewing longer. It is when shit went public. 427148;1387526041;bounce;usenet. 427149;1387526060;BingoBoingo;Vexual, between my Vodka and your bathsalts it is hard to tell what is being discussed 427150;1387526065;Vexual;lol 427151;1387526082;Vexual;i appreciate the macfee 427152;1387526134;Vexual;ip is excellent for the world 427153;1387526179;BingoBoingo;Vexual: Scheier and other government agents are dangers to freedom, but so are people tripping balls 24/7 like McAfee 427154;1387526211;Vexual;yeah well at least hes in control of his own shit 427155;1387526299;Vexual;gaza would look a lot different without the mossy e 427156;1387526308;Vexual;v& 427157;1387526529;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pduLqCiq1YM 427158;1387526529;ozbot;Ed Sheeran & Passenger - No Diggity vs. Thrift Shop (Kygo Remix) - YouTube 427159;1387526547;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 476 @ 0.00282544 = 1.3449 BTC [-] {12} 427160;1387526554;Vexual;whats better than a double edged sword? 427161;1387526773;Vexual;ask mcafee hess say a double barrelled shotgun 427162;1387526849;Vexual;ask the isralei girl who just turned 22 427163;1387526899;Vexual;she dont want no close quarters comabat 427164;1387526939;Vexual;she will say 2 tickets to goa 427165;1387527040;Vexual;the american homeboy in prison might say 2 months in the hole 427166;1387527051;BingoBoingo;Vexual? What if you need to cause injury to three people though? 427167;1387527090;Vexual;well if you're asking mossad, theyll say a tripple shot fucking long range missile with a 509 metre kill radius 427168;1387527260;Vexual;that shit doesnt need a camera, good intel, set, forget 427169;1387527450;Vexual;id say a triple edged sword 427170;1387527462;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 500 @ 0.001 = 0.5 BTC 427171;1387527715;Vexual;and ballet lessons 427172;1387527965;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Flle3hJm2yk 427173;1387527965;ozbot;Peter Chung - Loaded Promo - YouTube 427174;1387527973;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ih1SHVkq94 427175;1387527973;ozbot;Umami - Sunny - YouTube 427176;1387528337;Vexual;ill dumb it down so more vodka makes it clearer 427177;1387528351;Vexual;self relieance and freedom are the themes 427178;1387528361;Vexual;both of which arent true 427179;1387528382;Vexual;but the trader has both 427180;1387528398;Vexual;and they are inalaible 427181;1387528449;Vexual;futhermore, in the words of australias great irish hero: 427182;1387528453;Vexual;such is life 427183;1387528653;dub;Vexual is down with the inhalable 427184;1387528659;Vexual;lol 427185;1387528669;Vexual;did i get geolocated? 427186;1387528681;Vexual;fucking ip 427187;1387528781;Vexual;csiro wifi patent ran out, sell kennilworth 427188;1387528930;Vexual;wait noone whos ever even heard of csiro has aven shooken a kennilworth hand 427189;1387529071;Vexual;fucking leprachauns 427190;1387529084;Vexual;100k in sundries for a landcruiser 427191;1387529122;Vexual;and its asx listed, so the whole shit is half illegal 427192;1387529500;Vexual;if mircea ran the asx, those rainbow running fucks would be delisted in a heartbeat 427193;1387529828;Vexual;ive got more gold in my arse 427194;1387530064;Vexual;something newer, what of this seed fun ? 427195;1387530068;Vexual;*d 427196;1387530221;Vexual;yeah thats a lot of coin, im not saying shit 427197;1387530438;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klVe7_2UEQ8 427198;1387530438;ozbot;Best Mariachi Music - YouTube 427199;1387530715;Vexual;dub help me 427200;1387531084;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63tEbQryLpQ 427201;1387531085;ozbot;D12 - Shit on You (Full Uncensored) - YouTube 427202;1387531123;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.2968084 = 2.9681 BTC [+] {6} 427203;1387531146;Vexual;yay finance 427204;1387531564;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXANDMk9Z6w 427205;1387531636;Vexual;if those guys had a baby smidge would come out 427206;1387531699;Vexual;from craig davids bottom 427207;1387531732;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 29 @ 0.0487896 = 1.4149 BTC [+] 427208;1387531804;Vexual;*a smidge 427209;1387531808;Vexual;not the smidge 427210;1387531847;Vexual;dont want some facist shouting liabel 427211;1387532292;Vexual;http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6e0_1385652769&comments=1 427212;1387532293;ozbot;LiveLeak.com - Meanwhile In Australia - Riding My Emu To Work (comments) 427213;1387532451;Vexual;hey smidge 427214;1387532474;Vexual;mick jagger charges more than you 427215;1387532681;Vexual;if you want to play games get a nintendo 427216;1387533121;Vexual;oh i should take my own medecine there 427217;1387533132;Vexual;£realize 427218;1387533135;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 9000 @ 0.00012 = 1.08 BTC [+] 427219;1387533200;Vexual;ill be back in 3 months with wiiu chip#s for all the gents 427220;1387533245;Vexual;300khs scrypt when its off 427221;1387533252;truffles;free chips? 427222;1387533268;Vexual;youll have to reselve yourself truff 427223;1387533272;Vexual;*) 427224;1387533275;Vexual;*0 427225;1387533304;truffles;reselve? 427226;1387533311;Vexual;resolvbe 427227;1387533314;Vexual;-b 427228;1387533346;Vexual;can u troll in japanese? 427229;1387533367;truffles;:( 427230;1387533387;Vexual;can u make your mum buy you a nintendo and monstor hunter? 427231;1387533397;truffles;no 427232;1387533409;truffles;i didnt even play it much when we had it 427233;1387533421;Vexual;no the new one is better# 427234;1387533524;Vexual;you lkike to troll? 427235;1387533560;truffles;i feel like 427236;1387533567;truffles;ure trying to hurt me 427237;1387533589;Vexual;no, if you want to troll, i will show you 427238;1387533629;truffles;ull show me how to fail ok 427239;1387533668;truffles;if u dont understand what im saying just ask 427240;1387533745;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00089947 = 9.9841 BTC [-] 427241;1387533771;Vexual;perhaps if you learn to harekiri some dumb fuck on monstor hunter u can mine ore on eve for mircea 427242;1387533804;truffles;its not a game id play 427243;1387533819;Vexual;they have a warrior shooter 427244;1387533847;truffles;it looks like a wannabe supermario os 427245;1387533889;Vexual;nintendo? 427246;1387533907;truffles;the game, i saw utube clip 427247;1387533940;Vexual;oh yeah its not as easy as it sounds 427248;1387533957;truffles;i did enjoy age of empire's 1 427249;1387533966;truffles;i couldnt make it through AOE 2 427250;1387534038;Vexual;too versatile? 427251;1387534067;truffles;i dont like how it looked, it felt like they changed the game 427252;1387534153;Vexual;if you become accustomed to your old prong it's not necissarily a sign of low intelligence 427253;1387534211;truffles;i know, im not big on changes 427254;1387534377;Vexual;nintendo invented two iterations of virual reality and never saw it through, but the innovation gets my money every time 427255;1387534414;truffles;xbox or wii? 427256;1387534424;Vexual;wiiu pad is a headset without the velcro 427257;1387534437;truffles;i dont like wii 427258;1387534451;Vexual;u will when youre bleeding from the face 427259;1387534464;truffles;ure gonna make me bleed? heh 427260;1387534484;Vexual;its unlikely 427261;1387534510;truffles;esp since ure prob some skinny nerd :D 427262;1387534515;Vexual;i am 427263;1387534523;Vexual;u fat? 427264;1387534532;truffles;im not obese 427265;1387534544;Vexual;but youll swipe my feet? 427266;1387534552;truffles;prob 427267;1387534560;Vexual;u got a pink tracksuit? 427268;1387534575;truffles;nah 427269;1387534585;Vexual;kick snow at me? 427270;1387534589;truffles;i dont fight ppl 427271;1387534614;truffles;im peaceful 427272;1387534635;Vexual;me too, youre bleeding from the face by the virtual reality 427273;1387534685;Vexual;omiting, shiting, sneezing, crying, all at once 427274;1387534698;truffles;why 427275;1387534718;Vexual;coz its virtual rality and its a whole experience, unusual to us 427276;1387534752;truffles;id rather get booze 427277;1387534775;Vexual;its in your house, do what u want 427278;1387534848;Vexual;tyhe gaming pop is going to explode with vr headsets 427279;1387534881;Vexual;ps4 will not last 10 years this time 427280;1387534896;truffles;getting xbox2 427281;1387534911;Vexual;sounds right 427282;1387534916;truffles;obv i dont wanna move on to "new" one 427283;1387534922;Vexual;obv 427284;1387534941;truffles;the old one works just fine u kno 427285;1387534948;Vexual;dead set 427286;1387534962;Vexual;get version one, at least that plays videos 427287;1387534985;Namworld;I'm going to play I Wanna Be The Guy, VR version 427288;1387534994;Namworld;So unfair it might just look like real life. 427289;1387534996;Vexual;what dat dutchie? 427290;1387535027;truffles;ps4 looks better than xbox2 though 427291;1387535034;truffles;too bad i dont like ps4 games 427292;1387535035;Vexual;its a sony 427293;1387535075;truffles;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzxJgWbm_3I this? 427294;1387535076;ozbot;I Wanna Be The Guy - Complete Run (Part 1 of 5) - YouTube 427295;1387535081;Vexual;dem apples 427296;1387535209;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5000 @ 0.00012 = 0.6 BTC [+] 427297;1387535252;truffles;looks like super mario! 427298;1387535311;pankkake;but 9000 times harder 427299;1387535326;truffles;omg mike tyson? 427300;1387535338;revy;cat in snow 427301;1387535357;truffles;in the video its fighting mike 427302;1387535367;truffles;4:50minute 427303;1387535429;revy;snot 427304;1387535455;revy;tears? 427305;1387535552;revy;its ok if youre watching mario ride link 427306;1387535578;truffles;im watching link i posted above "I Wanna Be the Guy" 427307;1387535670;revy;mario didnt fare well in the family 427308;1387535725;revy;wrong castle 427309;1387535839;revy;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8JAPNbhaT8 427310;1387535839;ozbot;Black Lagoon - Hey Rock (She likes me for me) - YouTube 427311;1387535886;truffles;thats on my list of anime to watch! 427312;1387535917;Vexual;i only ver watch that and urutsukudodji 427313;1387535931;KRS|Gotyawallet;:P 427314;1387535948;truffles;cowboy bebop u should watch :D 427315;1387535972;Vexual;is that like brokeback mountain? 427316;1387535977;KRS|Gotyawallet;hah 427317;1387535985;truffles;no wai, its a good one 427318;1387536011;truffles;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6zDfxZ4NcE 427319;1387536011;ozbot;Cowboy Bebop opening (Tank) - YouTube 427320;1387536023;Vexual;yeah ive seen it 427321;1387536049;Vexual;i cant abide bullshit pace travel 427322;1387536056;truffles;hater 427323;1387536075;Vexual;eat me 427324;1387536098;truffles;u got no meat to eat 427325;1387536121;Vexual;but if you choose to play i can eat you 427326;1387536178;truffles;have u seen berserk? 427327;1387536187;truffles;this intro is pretty graphic/dark 427328;1387536197;truffles;to Urotsukidoji 427329;1387536221;Vexual;dont know beserk 427330;1387536242;truffles;1st ep is the last ep 427331;1387536244;Vexual;what do you eat? 427332;1387536261;truffles;right now? pistachio's 427333;1387536297;Vexual;ill have nigella round 427334;1387536316;truffles;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZIoc-iNyBQ&list=PL7mDg8J8cx9QmvNW2Y19T_-9DeKrodjIR 427335;1387536317;ozbot;Berserk Episode 2 [1 2] English Dub - YouTube.flv - YouTube 427336;1387536389;truffles;obv gonna have to rewatch that series sometime 427337;1387536391;Vexual;ha that guy is my cousin 427338;1387536402;truffles;which 427339;1387536407;KRS|Gotyawallet;Vexual did you watch breaking bad yet 427340;1387536414;Vexual;the sword guy who doesnt have a hawk 427341;1387536426;Vexual;yes ive seen breaking bad 427342;1387536432;KRS|Gotyawallet;teh best imo 427343;1387536441;truffles;now go watch The Wire 427344;1387536447;KRS|Gotyawallet;yeh 427345;1387536451;Vexual;sigh 427346;1387536492;truffles;this guy looks like vegeta! 427347;1387536499;Vexual;fat fuck 427348;1387536526;Vexual;cliced thin with some hot and sour soup# 427349;1387536612;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 17 @ 0.03640738 = 0.6189 BTC [-] {7} 427350;1387536655;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoEiU2KAs9E 427351;1387536655;ozbot;Black Lagoon - Revy in Japan - YouTube 427352;1387536801;Vexual;u went to japen Graet 427353;1387536823;Vexual;whats it like? 427354;1387536917;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57337 @ 0.00090173 = 51.7025 BTC [+] {4} 427355;1387536992;Vexual;did friedcat come and chinese it up, kicking robots in the crotch and shit? 427356;1387537039;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.28000202 BTC [-] 427357;1387537184;realtetsuo;lend me your shitty motorbike 427358;1387537260;realtetsuo;i, i, i cant take it any longer 427359;1387537302;Vexual;feel that? 427360;1387537371;Vexual;private fibre baby 427361;1387537499;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzQsfffGzIs 427362;1387537500;ozbot;Black Lagoon AMV - Revy's broken dreams - YouTube 427363;1387537517;Vexual;i apologise namworld 427364;1387537527;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.28000202 = 0.84 BTC [-] 427365;1387537601;Vexual;if u think revy shooting shit is a spoiler, you can stop watching 2 minutes into episode 1 427366;1387537649;truffles;not clicking any lagoon links :d 427367;1387537678;Vexual;fair cop 427368;1387537710;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.28000203 BTC [+] 427369;1387537716;truffles;Urotsukidoji is really hentai? 427370;1387537832;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 22 @ 0.0487896 = 1.0734 BTC [+] 427371;1387537836;Vexual;Roanapur is really no place for a lady to be slone tho. 427372;1387537893;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 109 @ 0.00283 = 0.3085 BTC [-] 427373;1387538015;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.00283 = 0.566 BTC [-] 427374;1387538016;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.28000203 = 0.56 BTC [+] 427375;1387538055;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2Lx_y-FyT0 427376;1387538056;ozbot;My Island Home - Christine Anu - YouTube 427377;1387538076;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.27603222 BTC [-] 427378;1387538199;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 17 @ 0.0487896 = 0.8294 BTC [+] 427379;1387538301;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SD6_kyOyR50 427380;1387538302;ozbot;Christine Anu - Coz I'm Free (2001) - YouTube 427381;1387538547;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ouqhCtIh2g 427382;1387538547;ozbot;Sinead O'Connor - Molly Malone - YouTube 427383;1387538626;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6732 @ 0.00090271 = 6.077 BTC [+] {2} 427384;1387538789;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFLP_FzvEOg 427385;1387538790;ozbot;Kings Cross - Story Of Our Lives - Ben Nevis - YouTube 427386;1387539601;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.297 = 2.376 BTC [+] 427387;1387539706;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWOJlWh6xs0 informatik 427388;1387539707;ozbot;Black Lagoon AMV - The Scorpion - YouTube 427389;1387540059;Vexual;has onyone outside of china ever called the police for a bitcoin matter? 427390;1387540173;Vexual;and the herman that got his laptop took on a country lane 427391;1387542346;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 51 @ 0.00291 = 0.1484 BTC [+] 427392;1387543139;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1184 @ 0.00282638 = 3.3464 BTC [-] {3} 427393;1387543383;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00090487 = 9.1392 BTC [+] 427394;1387544176;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 12017 @ 0.00012 = 1.442 BTC [+] 427395;1387545030;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 46 @ 0.02113043 = 0.972 BTC [-] {5} 427396;1387545274;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 308 @ 0.00253816 = 0.7818 BTC [-] {13} 427397;1387545457;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.297 BTC [+] 427398;1387546189;KRS|Gotyawallet;Bobby Lee has it all handled. 427399;1387546210;KRS|Gotyawallet;I went to sleep for the night and i'm back already..sad. 427400;1387546371;truffles;tis the weekend 427401;1387546691;jurov;;;later tell Vexual bitcash.cz dude did go to police after the theft. 427402;1387546691;gribble;The operation succeeded. 427403;1387546720;jurov;;;later tell Vexual little did that help so far 427404;1387546720;gribble;The operation succeeded. 427405;1387547348;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 356 @ 0.00281152 = 1.0009 BTC [-] {3} 427406;1387547409;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.28202614 = 0.5641 BTC [-] {2} 427407;1387547410;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 8000 @ 0.00012 = 0.96 BTC [+] 427408;1387547470;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2761002 BTC [-] 427409;1387547836;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 277 @ 0.00279899 = 0.7753 BTC [-] {2} 427410;1387548934;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11883 @ 0.00090481 = 10.7519 BTC [-] 427411;1387549029;TomServo;.d 427412;1387549029;ozbot;908350862.43702 | Next Diff in 130 blocks | Estimated Change: 31.2986% in 0d 14h 8m 2s 427413;1387549120;ThickAsThieves;;;nethash 427414;1387549121;gribble;9950311.51339 427415;1387549125;ThickAsThieves;;;estimate 427416;1387549126;gribble;Next difficulty estimate | 1192682487.75 based on data since last change | 1390021250.17 based on data for last three days 427417;1387549133;ThickAsThieves;wow 427418;1387549138;TomServo;indeed. 427419;1387549139;ThickAsThieves;;;bcstats 427420;1387549142;gribble;Current Blocks: 276061 | Current Difficulty: 9.08350862437022E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 276191 | Next Difficulty In: 130 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 15 hours, 8 minutes, and 44 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 1192682487.75 | Estimated Percent Change: 31.30196 427421;1387549422;assbot;[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 100 @ 0.00222441 = 0.2224 BTC [-] {3} 427422;1387549846;ThickAsThieves;http://bitbet.us/bet/134/civil-war-in-the-usa-in-2013/ ha 427423;1387549849;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26350 @ 0.00090519 = 23.8518 BTC [+] {2} 427424;1387549849;ozbot;BitBet - Civil war in the USA in 2013 427425;1387549996;truffles;maybe 2020 427426;1387550276;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2762 BTC [+] 427427;1387550337;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 137 @ 0.001 = 0.137 BTC 427428;1387550398;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1150 @ 0.00012 = 0.138 BTC [+] 427429;1387551374;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 90 @ 0.00279899 = 0.2519 BTC [-] 427430;1387551941;nubbins`;http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/mud-immortal-organizer-in-personal-bankruptcy-during-event-1.2470111 427431;1387551942;ozbot;Mud Immortal organizer in personal bankruptcy during event - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News 427432;1387551948;nubbins`;someone should tell that guy about bitcoin 427433;1387552106;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15625 @ 0.00090636 = 14.1619 BTC [+] {2} 427434;1387552472;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 180 @ 0.022 = 3.96 BTC [-] 427435;1387552484;ThickAsThieves;seems he's got his scamming under control already tho 427436;1387552594;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10523 @ 0.00012 = 1.2628 BTC [+] 427437;1387552777;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00090739 = 4.6277 BTC [+] 427438;1387552838;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC 427439;1387553448;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4370 @ 0.00012 = 0.5244 BTC [+] 427440;1387553967;ThickAsThieves;"Today Bitcoin China (BTC China) formally launched a new product, "currency lock" - the most secure online bitcoin wallet. "Currency lock" the safest way to store the user's offline Bitcoin, a process known as cold storage, it can ensure that your wallet will not be stolen by hackers online. Your "money locked" account we have bank-level security protection. In the future, China Bitcoin 427441;1387553967;ThickAsThieves;(BTC China) users can send your bitcoins safely stored in bitcoins China (BTC China) of "currency locked" inside." 427442;1387554029;ThickAsThieves;http://www.reuters.com/investigates/china-military/#article/part4 427443;1387554029;ozbot;Breakout: Inside China's military buildup 427444;1387554058;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10227 @ 0.00090554 = 9.261 BTC [-] {3} 427445;1387554730;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 500 @ 0.00045 = 0.225 BTC [+] 427446;1387555034;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 323 @ 0.00090368 = 0.2919 BTC [-] 427447;1387555278;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 50000 @ 0.00012 = 6 BTC [+] 427448;1387555949;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 33000 @ 0.001 = 33 BTC 427449;1387556132;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 282 @ 0.001 = 0.282 BTC 427450;1387556193;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 17 @ 0.02229999 = 0.3791 BTC [+] {2} 427451;1387556986;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.0487896 = 0.1464 BTC [+] 427452;1387557169;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2110 @ 0.00090739 = 1.9146 BTC [+] 427453;1387557230;assbot;[MPEX] [S.BBET] 2500 @ 0.00066111 = 1.6528 BTC [-] 427454;1387557291;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MG] 2500 @ 0.00014 = 0.35 BTC [+] 427455;1387557413;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 196 @ 0.00283598 = 0.5559 BTC [+] 427456;1387557414;assbot;[MPEX] [S.NSA] 2500 @ 0.00014 = 0.35 BTC [+] 427457;1387557535;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00283598 = 0.2836 BTC [+] {3} 427458;1387557674;KRS|Gotyawallet;they scare me 427459;1387557779;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00090787 = 2.2697 BTC [+] 427460;1387557866;the20year2;Rentalstarter payments are finally going out 427461;1387558450;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 170 @ 0.00301429 = 0.5124 BTC [-] {4} 427462;1387559097;jborkl;http://lp2.beastoptions.com/ 427463;1387559102;jborkl;:( 427464;1387559124;jborkl;but they have a instructional video 427465;1387559156;jborkl;Profit in as little as 60 secondsWORK FROM HOME & EARN AS MUCH AS $60 TO $100 427466;1387559156;jborkl;PER HOUR WITH NO KITS TO BUY OR FRIENDS TO RECRUIT 427467;1387559202;jborkl;:( with a free amazing video 427468;1387559202;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 427469;1387559823;peterL;@assbot is a shill :P 427470;1387560323;pankkake;hmm… speaking of shill… how about a bot telling of bet updates? 427471;1387560335;pankkake;for example any bet >0.1, new bets, etc. 427472;1387560463;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC 427473;1387560524;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 12000 @ 0.001 = 12 BTC 427474;1387560707;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 74 @ 0.00279899 = 0.2071 BTC [-] {2} 427475;1387560812;peterL;do bets get posted to twitter or anything like that? 427476;1387560831;peterL;and how is that a "speaking of shill"? 427477;1387560890;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1997 @ 0.001 = 1.997 BTC 427478;1387561023;KRS|Gotyawallet;i want to profit with amazing free video 427479;1387561023;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 427480;1387561195;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC 427481;1387561256;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 325 @ 0.001 = 0.325 BTC 427482;1387561456;KRS|Gotyawallet;whats with litecoin tanking 427483;1387561473;Duffer1;it's following btc 427484;1387561578;mircea_popescu;so today i learned that while in romania you pay 350 euros a month to rent a property worth 70k, in the us you miostly pay 700 dollars a month to rent a property worth 30k 427485;1387561587;mircea_popescu;you people are getting gypped over there big time. 427486;1387561596;Duffer1;we know :( 427487;1387561619;mircea_popescu;but i mean... 4.5x ? come on. it's real estate not nuclear physics. 427488;1387561630;mircea_popescu;10, 15, 17% more i can see. 450% ?! 427489;1387561650;pankkake;I doubt prices are the same in the whole US 427490;1387561651;Duffer1;there are too many reasons that compound the issue 427491;1387561654;pankkake;if you want to laugh, come to Paris 427492;1387561662;mike_c;i've been renting for 15 years and have not found that to be true. 427493;1387561668;mircea_popescu;pankkake this was spurred by a guy's data re central ohio. meanwhile i had intel check it out 427494;1387561675;mircea_popescu;it is eerilie universal to the us, yes. 427495;1387561682;mircea_popescu;just property values vary. 427496;1387561683;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 4880 @ 0.001 = 4.88 BTC {2} 427497;1387561694;mircea_popescu;mike_c california and ny stand out as exceptions 427498;1387561712;Duffer1;far higher than normal right? 427499;1387561717;Duffer1;"normal" 427500;1387561733;mike_c;well, if it is true in the midwest, it is likely related to the fact that nobody can get a mortgage anymore in the us. 427501;1387561744;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 30000 @ 0.001 = 30 BTC 427502;1387561751;mircea_popescu;Duffer1 exaggerate to hell property values, which make rents a smaller proportion but also exaggerated to all hell. 427503;1387561755;mircea_popescu;hardly a "fix" 427504;1387561776;mircea_popescu;mike_c no, it's really the baseline that's hidden from you because in california rents are what, 1300 minimum 427505;1387561781;mircea_popescu;so that scrunches up the curve. 427506;1387561810;mike_c;hah. 1300 would be awesome. i paid 2100 in CA. 427507;1387561813;mircea_popescu;you're still being taxed 50k for the priviledge of existing, it just shows up less in the %s 427508;1387561824;mircea_popescu;mike_c minimum, ya know ? 427509;1387561840;pankkake;is housing out of official inflation statistics? 427510;1387561854;mircea_popescu;pankkake obviously. 427511;1387561858;mike_c;whatever is inflating is removed from the inflation statistics. 427512;1387561866;Duffer1;hehe 427513;1387561888;peterL;yeah, housing and food are not included in CPI calculations, IIRC 427514;1387561898;mircea_popescu;i had not previously realised the us is on such a weak footing, tbh. i mean i had a general notion, but i never cared enough to examine the real estate situation. 427515;1387561901;pankkake;food isn't either? lol 427516;1387561909;mircea_popescu;not to mention you idiots - as there's no better name - still don't use torrens. 427517;1387561920;mircea_popescu;what in the actual fuck, is it 1785 in the us ? 427518;1387561921;Duffer1;torrents? 427519;1387561926;mircea_popescu;jesus. 427520;1387561929;pankkake;that's the two things that indeed have inflated big time in the last years 427521;1387561933;mircea_popescu;Duffer1 torrens is a title registration system 427522;1387561940;peterL;what's torrens? 427523;1387561943;mircea_popescu;which makes it quite feasible for me to buy up real estate personally 427524;1387561945;Duffer1;never heard of it 427525;1387561949;mircea_popescu;rather than having to hire some "experts" 427526;1387561952;mircea_popescu;to fucking fleece me. 427527;1387561994;mike_c;please. having to hire a lawyer, real estate agent, title company, escrow agent, etc, etc. is totally reasonable! 427528;1387561999;mircea_popescu;totally. 427529;1387562011;peterL;MP, I currently rent a house for about twice it would take to buy it with a mortgage, but because of my credit I cannot get a morgage to buy a house. 427530;1387562018;mircea_popescu;i never used ANYONE. not a real estate agent, title company or escrow. ever. 427531;1387562029;Duffer1;wouldn't matter even if we did use such a system, housing as you pointed out is is obscenely expensive 427532;1387562031;mircea_popescu;all i used was a half hour of notary public time, cost me ~35 427533;1387562044;Duffer1;add to that the 35year olds and under have less than zero wealth 427534;1387562046;mircea_popescu;Duffer1 it's only obscenely expensive BECAUSE of such restrictions 427535;1387562078;mircea_popescu;peterL yeah well, how much you paying and what's it worth ? 427536;1387562110;Duffer1;those agents take their fees on top of list price 427537;1387562127;Duffer1;remove them and list price is still the same 427538;1387562127;mircea_popescu;i never hired one. 427539;1387562131;peterL;I have not estimated exactly what a mortgage would cost for a while, but it is $1000 rent, house is maybe $90000 427540;1387562140;mircea_popescu;think, millionaire in the 3rd world, never used as much as a real estate agent. 427541;1387562158;mircea_popescu;peterL you're not getting gypped quite as bad as the average. 427542;1387562171;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.0601 = 0.2404 BTC [-] 427543;1387562172;mircea_popescu;which, incidentally, is one of the deep causes of us real estate bubbles, i am coming to realise. 427544;1387562183;mircea_popescu;it's not loose money policies that cause those, and loose money policies don't cause them in the eu. 427545;1387562200;mircea_popescu;it's the ingrained notion learned through experience by all us inhabitants that the more you pay the less you're gouged 427546;1387562201;peterL;My previous house sold for about $30000 and is renting for $900 a month 427547;1387562205;mircea_popescu;which is wrong, but they look at the percents. 427548;1387562224;mircea_popescu;on top of that, loose money bubbles the real estate. because they'd rather be the guy paying 1k for a 90k property 427549;1387562229;mircea_popescu;than the guy paying 700 for the 30k property. 427550;1387562236;mircea_popescu;obviously it's easier to inflate than to improve. 427551;1387562244;mircea_popescu;peterL EXACTLY. 427552;1387562340;mircea_popescu;quite frankly, i can not see how anyone'd put up with this arrangement. 427553;1387562340;peterL;let me guess, you were investigating "rentalStarter"? 427554;1387562349;mircea_popescu;peterL it started there. 427555;1387562371;peterL;care to share your thoughts on the business? 427556;1387562371;mircea_popescu;why, you know something i don't ? 427557;1387562392;Duffer1;land owners charge what they can, citizens with zero savings pay what they have to 427558;1387562401;Duffer1;rent goes up 427559;1387562406;mircea_popescu;the judgement of the business pivots on the judgement of the guy, as it's tghat small. he seems clever and dilligent but how do you ever know. 427560;1387562458;peterL;he should have listed on MPEX instead of BitFunder? 427561;1387562480;mike_c;it's turning btc into housing. i don't see how that will work out. 427562;1387562492;mike_c;it is a btc divestment. 427563;1387562502;mircea_popescu;mike_c well, it's going long fiat. there are situations where one'd want that. 427564;1387562514;mircea_popescu;take the x.eur, roughly same on that score. 427565;1387562539;mircea_popescu;you obviously wouldn't think of buying the thing otherwise than "buying an us future with a built in interest rate" 427566;1387562554;pankkake;it allows small real estate investments, where they are usually quite complicated (and taxed) 427567;1387562563;pankkake;and tradeable 427568;1387562577;mircea_popescu;pankkake that's the only reason this may make sense, the guy seems to know the situation on the ground 427569;1387562591;peterL;If you expect bitcoin to stabilize, then it could be a good way to invest in real estate. 427570;1387562613;mircea_popescu;or it could be a good way to run from btc if you consider it drops. 427571;1387562616;pankkake;I'm already invested in real estate, and I feel like I'm sitting on a bubble :D 427572;1387562628;mircea_popescu;just, not the usual "it's been 5 days, any updates ?" sort of "investing" 427573;1387562638;mircea_popescu;this requires more long term thinking. 427574;1387562650;peterL;OK, who wants to help me buy a house and I will pay rent in bitcoins? 427575;1387562654;mircea_popescu;pankkake unless there's a war, $30k detached housing in ohio CAN NOT be a bubble. 427576;1387562661;mircea_popescu;my mind farts when i consider this 427577;1387562675;mircea_popescu;a car costs more for fuck's sake. 427578;1387562679;pankkake;I'm not confortable investing in real estate where I don't know the market, too 427579;1387562684;mike_c;it will also never be worth much more. 427580;1387562703;mike_c;so, income stream, ok. good luck outpacing btc appreciation. 427581;1387562717;pankkake;but would you put 100% of your savings in bitcoin? 427582;1387562720;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC 427583;1387562722;mircea_popescu;possibly not. who's to know ? 427584;1387562726;peterL;You want to see how low it can go, Detroit is not far from Ohio 427585;1387562741;mircea_popescu;peterL afaik ohio does not have the monoindustry problem 427586;1387562745;mike_c;hah. good point. they will pay you to take housing in detroit. 427587;1387562755;mircea_popescu;but obviously, before buying in one'd have to very seriously consider awhole host of things. 427588;1387562758;mircea_popescu;which is what investing is. 427589;1387562778;mircea_popescu;mike_c you know, california is going detroit before ohio is. 427590;1387562796;mike_c;yes. you have to start higher to crash that low. 427591;1387562804;mircea_popescu;ohio has flyover zone immunity. california has nothing, hollywood's dead and sillicon valley is losing it. 427592;1387562831;mircea_popescu;all it can come up with these days is a very thin sliver at the very top and a very wide base of ycombinator retards. 427593;1387562859;mike_c;and ycombinator is the thin silver on top of the 1000 yc copycats. 427594;1387562917;pankkake;it's the 2000s all over again 427595;1387562935;peterL;At least California has better weather than Ohio or Detroit 427596;1387562939;mircea_popescu;mike_c and they got nothing, all they have is css devels. 427597;1387562949;Duffer1;googling "torrens" in the u.s. gives nude photo results >.< 427598;1387562954;mircea_popescu;they're gonna revolutionize the way people do rounded corners. 427599;1387562959;pankkake;california has sluts / porn right? 427600;1387562963;peterL;MPEX say "CSS? What's that?" 427601;1387562989;pankkake;but it's mobile-first responsive css! 427602;1387562992;mike_c;that bubble has already started popping though. the "series A crunch" is the term for the million crappy startups that are dying. 427603;1387563002;mircea_popescu;;;google torrens title 427604;1387563002;gribble;Torrens title - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Torrens Title System - Legal Dictionary - The Free Dictionary: ; Torrens title register - Land and Property Information: 427605;1387563014;mircea_popescu;mike_c ikr 427606;1387563025;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 7000 @ 0.001 = 7 BTC 427607;1387563030;Duffer1;https://www.google.com/search?q=torrens&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=qIe0UrHLOMTmoATk4oHQBQ&ved=0CD0QsAQ&biw=1011&bih=657 427608;1387563032;Duffer1;nsfw 427609;1387563035;pankkake;at my ex-ex job I really wondered how all our stupid clients got their funding 427610;1387563050;pankkake;they all basically wanted to be the facebook-twitter of SOMETHING 427611;1387563082;pankkake;they had the most overcssed websites 427612;1387563103;pankkake;webpages that would belong in a magazine, not a browser 427613;1387563110;mircea_popescu;pankkake "useless stupid unwanted money that nobody knows what to do with" 427614;1387563116;pankkake;and no business plan obviously 427615;1387563116;mircea_popescu;to quote the sitll living classics. 427616;1387563172;pankkake;would be better invested in hookers and blow 427617;1387563193;Duffer1;or a one way plane ticket 427618;1387563226;the20year;I don't understand it either pankkake 427619;1387563243;the20year;They all want to rehash the same exact stuff, and yet they somehow get millions of dollars of funding 427620;1387563259;the20year;When I have a valid idea, one that's already profitable, and i'm having so much time 427621;1387563288;pankkake;I guess simple yet profitable ideas are not appealing to bored old men with too much money 427622;1387563338;the20year;Problem in Ohio is no one wants to develop rental property since it's a get rich slow scheme. Real estate development can return several milion dollars in just a 9 month development phase 427623;1387563447;the20year;Michigan doesn't have a monoindustry problem , Detroit has one though 427624;1387563463;nubbins`;hi 427625;1387563473;mircea_popescu;the20year is what i meant. 427626;1387563482;mircea_popescu;i don't imagine they were talking michigan when saying detroit. 427627;1387563503;the20year;Real estate can be very, very localized when talking about problems. I could give you a dozen markets in Michigan I'd love to be in 427628;1387563509;peterL;mircea_popescue: would MPEx list something like RentalStarter, or is that too removed from bitcoin investing? 427629;1387563511;pankkake;I hope what I did with my appartment - making it not look like moldy ass - will get it some price boost 427630;1387563514;the20year;and a dozen here in Ohio I don't want to touch with a 10 foot pole 427631;1387563533;mircea_popescu;peterL it might, depending. contrary to what forum muppets think mpex is quite open 427632;1387563541;mircea_popescu;if you got a business and a plan you got a shot. 427633;1387563546;peterL;oops, mircea_popescu, sorry, I always want to put an e on the end of your name :( 427634;1387563552;nubbins`;ah, the joys of home ownership 427635;1387563562;pankkake;eheh. I hope one day I'll be worthy of MPEx 427636;1387563563;nubbins`;i just spent $275 on a new circulating valve for our tenant's furnace 427637;1387563570;pankkake;first step would be get my hand out of my ass 427638;1387563572;the20year;I can buy a new furnace for $550 :D 427639;1387563635;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00090673 = 4.987 BTC [-] {2} 427640;1387563652;the20year;The one thign that helps us out on the upkeep is that we go through the house on purchase and essentially rebuild the whole thing 427641;1387563880;nubbins`;yeah 427642;1387563889;nubbins`;often gutting is the best option long-term 427643;1387563903;nubbins`;this pump that failed was an old pump that they re-used when the new furnace was put in 427644;1387563911;the20year;We don't completely gut , but anything that's close to its end of effective lifespan gets replaced 427645;1387563913;nubbins`;lasted all of 3 years 427646;1387563918;the20year;how old is hte furnace? 427647;1387563918;nubbins`;yeah 427648;1387563929;nubbins`;the furnace itself is maybe 4 years old 427649;1387563935;the20year;Oh wow 427650;1387563939;nubbins`;yeah 427651;1387563948;the20year;one option that I considered, but it just didn't work out for us was to buy a home warranty 427652;1387563951;nubbins`;just too costly to upgrade to electric heat 427653;1387563968;the20year;are you on gas? 427654;1387563979;nubbins`;oil 427655;1387563988;the20year;Ah, oil is by far the worst of the worst 427656;1387564011;the20year;highest efficientcy is 80% on a furnace, most are 60%-70% 427657;1387564038;nubbins`;nod. this one is actually a hot water circulating furnace 427658;1387564054;mircea_popescu;Real estate development can return several milion dollars in just a 9 month development phase << i know a guy that blew up a fortune trying and failing at that. 427659;1387564056;nubbins`;more of an ebb-and-flow than an instant-heat sort of system 427660;1387564061;mircea_popescu;it's a fucking movie script of a story 427661;1387564061;the20year;i'm not too familiar with all the types of oil ones 427662;1387564065;the20year;mircea_popescu: plenty fail 427663;1387564083;the20year;The saying when I got into real estate was "Make money in wheelbarrow fulls, loose money in dumptruckfulls" 427664;1387564098;nubbins`;the20year: basically it's a standard oil furnace, but instead of heating air and pumping it through vents, it heats a large water reservoir that is then circulated throughout the house to radiators 427665;1387564101;mircea_popescu;and the us does niot have an inflation problem 427666;1387564107;the20year;Even worse 427667;1387564123;the20year;I've seen one radiant water heater manage to destroy about $15,000 worth of flooring 427668;1387564124;mircea_popescu;nubbins` that's how most europe is heated, except natural gas not oil. 427669;1387564137;the20year;natural gas in the US is very, very efficient and cheap 427670;1387564138;mircea_popescu;the20year wall attachments are standard. 427671;1387564139;nubbins`;it's not a bad system, because you retain the heat after the furnace stops firing 427672;1387564143;mircea_popescu;and the bathroom heated towel rack. 427673;1387564155;mircea_popescu;the20year same all over the world. 427674;1387564157;the20year;Yeah, but the water part is the problem. Using a high flash point oil is much better 427675;1387564168;the20year;I pay about $80/mo in the winter to heat my home 427676;1387564175;nubbins`;and the cold water going to the water boiler for the faucets/shower gets pre-warmed by the waste heat from the furnace, so that helps 427677;1387564177;mircea_popescu;about the same here. 427678;1387564192;mircea_popescu;you know, amusingly, most us folk i know think romania is a sort of ohio. 427679;1387564192;nubbins`;but oil is just expensive. no sweat to drop $450+ a month in the winter 427680;1387564196;the20year;Yeah 427681;1387564203;the20year;I'd much, much rather be on wood than oilk 427682;1387564208;nubbins`;yeah 427683;1387564212;nubbins`;i'd fucking LOVE a wood stove 427684;1387564227;nubbins`;but downtown st john's is all 100-year old wooden row houses 427685;1387564229;mircea_popescu;last i checked wood here was ~$22 a stere meter. 427686;1387564230;the20year;how so mircea_popescu? The Ohioans I know that have been there said it was nothing like Ohio in terms of society or economy......maybe the land is similar 427687;1387564237;nubbins`;and as much as i'd love wood, i'd love to continue having home insurance even more 427688;1387564239;mircea_popescu;the20year climate :) 427689;1387564245;the20year;Growing up we always got wood for free 427690;1387564251;the20year;Climate I'm sure is similar 427691;1387564267;the20year;Past 6 years has had mild winters, but this winter has been the worst in 20 years 427692;1387564274;the20year;and we're not to the 'real winter' part of it 427693;1387564279;mircea_popescu;romania had that last yearl ol. 427694;1387564279;nubbins`;$80/mo is fucking great to heat a home 427695;1387564282;mircea_popescu;lemme dig some picks 427696;1387564284;nubbins`;what size are we talking here? 427697;1387564287;the20year;Sure it is nubbins` 427698;1387564290;the20year;1100sf 427699;1387564294;nubbins`;ah 427700;1387564296;the20year;@ 70f winterlong 427701;1387564329;the20year;if we pulled it back to 65 or so i bet we could do it for $50/mo 427702;1387564345;nubbins`;this place is around 1600sqft, split over 4 levels. average elec bill is $230/mo 427703;1387564352;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2010/a-nins-a-nins/ 427704;1387564353;ozbot;A nins ? A nins pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 427705;1387564355;mircea_popescu;there we go. 427706;1387564376;mircea_popescu;;;google 1600 sqft in sane units of measurement. 427707;1387564377;gribble;Metric 4 US - Why Metric is the Better System: ; Units: S - The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill: ; Millennium Force - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: 427708;1387564380;nubbins`;that's heat, appliances 427709;1387564385;mircea_popescu;sigh. no ai yet, eh google ? 427710;1387564395;nubbins`;mircea_popescu: consider that canada is ostensibly metric and i don't know the square metrage of my house 427711;1387564400;mircea_popescu;~150. 427712;1387564415;the20year;who's the naked lady? 427713;1387564424;mircea_popescu;kinda crampy. i have a 220 sq m ground + 170 2nd floor here. 427714;1387564432;mircea_popescu;the20year my dog. 427715;1387564450;mircea_popescu;well, was. moved on, got married. 427716;1387564454;mircea_popescu;i guess now she's someone's mom. 427717;1387564470;nubbins`;yeah, i can spit from wall to wall here 427718;1387564515;nubbins`;it's nice for shared living tho, sound doesn't travel well between floors 427719;1387564568;the20year;So are you located in romania mircea_popescu? 427720;1387564578;mircea_popescu;nubbins` also keeps people well exercised, with all the floors 427721;1387564584;mircea_popescu;the20year atm yeah 427722;1387564639;asciilifeform;i might be the 'submarine' champ here. 32 sq. m. 427723;1387564672;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8354 @ 0.00090613 = 7.5698 BTC [-] 427724;1387564748;nubbins`;mircea_popescu: nod, the "studio" is split between the 3rd floor and the basement. sometimes finding your pencil is a workout 427725;1387564776;nubbins`;the20year: are you the guy from the forums who was looking into buying rental properties in halifax? 427726;1387564779;nubbins`;or was that someone else 427727;1387564795;the20year;not me 427728;1387564832;nubbins`;okay, i think he was doing similar to you but in canada 427729;1387564887;the20year;once i released info on what i wanted to do, like 20 people copied it 427730;1387564910;the20year;Another guy in Ohio, one in Detroit, one in alberta, one in NS , one in scottland 427731;1387565282;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 100 @ 0.02245589 = 2.2456 BTC [+] {3} 427732;1387565288;pankkake;asciilifeform: 32m² here too. though I have a big ass cellar 427733;1387565343;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2594 @ 0.00012 = 0.3113 BTC [+] {2} 427734;1387565403;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform wow, that's russian style. 427735;1387565455;mircea_popescu;the20year i wouldn't be too worried about that if i were you. 427736;1387565496;mircea_popescu;pankkake fun fact : the one room, high 20s to low 30s sqm thing is called "garsoniera" in romania, comes from garcon. 427737;1387565526;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.29486997 = 2.0641 BTC [+] {3} 427738;1387565539;asciilifeform;u.s.ian analogue 'man cave' ? 427739;1387565544;mircea_popescu;i guess so 427740;1387565551;the20year;i'm not worried since i was the first one in 427741;1387565558;mircea_popescu;it has no derrogatory nuance here tho 427742;1387565587;pankkake;well we have the garçonnière. the place where married men fuck other women 427743;1387565590;mircea_popescu;the20year copycats have this magical way to a) fail and b) do all the expensive dangerous research for you. 427744;1387565611;mircea_popescu;pankkake so that'd be a filletiere. 427745;1387565620;mircea_popescu;pronounced filthy-'ere 427746;1387565667;jurov;it's named so there as well 427747;1387565749;pankkake;"imitation is the most sincere form of flattery" 427748;1387565770;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1250 @ 0.00012 = 0.15 BTC [+] 427749;1387565776;mircea_popescu;i now wonder what the french word for the place where married men fuck other men would be. 427750;1387565859;pankkake;folletière 427751;1387565861;ThickAsThieves;monsieuriere 427752;1387565868;mircea_popescu;hahaha i like monsieuriere 427753;1387565879;mircea_popescu;that's where catholic priests fuck your children. 427754;1387565917;ThickAsThieves;fellatiere 427755;1387565924;mircea_popescu;hahaha 427756;1387565952;ThickAsThieves;its got fella and fellate 427757;1387565953;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 23 @ 0.04878997 = 1.1222 BTC [+] 427758;1387565956;ThickAsThieves;cant beat that 427759;1387565958;mircea_popescu;gentlemen, i am glad we've assembled such a crack team of creative linguists on this venue. 427760;1387565983;ThickAsThieves;its better than the sexting word they made 427761;1387566001;mircea_popescu;by the way, has the "hate speech" crowd managed to make crack a hurtful reference in gay contexts yet ? 427762;1387566008;ThickAsThieves;textopornographie 427763;1387566016;ThickAsThieves;sounds like an Extreme album 427764;1387566022;mircea_popescu;TPG! 427765;1387566035;mircea_popescu;tghe french invented this initialism bs which then the us army/govt copied 427766;1387566046;mircea_popescu;as they've copied all the bad ideas the french ever had since about 1905 427767;1387566054;mircea_popescu;1805* 427768;1387566063;jurov;merde! 427769;1387566084;pankkake;initialism is mostly our administration 427770;1387566112;the20year;who? 427771;1387566177;pankkake;where they invent stuff that must have a good initialism. like EDVIGE (sounds like Edwige the female name) for the police spy file 427772;1387566194;pankkake;"Exploitation documentaire et valorisation de l'information générale" basically means "Data Stuff" 427773;1387566201;mircea_popescu;lol 427774;1387566274;mircea_popescu;it basically means "word soup" 427775;1387566294;mircea_popescu;and how is edvige a "good" anything. it fails to be an obscure female name. 427776;1387566295;truffles;what kinda frenchman takes it from a Romanian ! 427777;1387566375;pankkake;EDVIGE is arguably better than SRTRKRTS because you can pronounce it 427778;1387566403;mircea_popescu;you can pronounce the latter "skirts" 427779;1387566438;pankkake;after all, people manage to pronounce SCSI… 427780;1387566439;mircea_popescu;which sounds a lot like the romanian "scirt," which means "big whoop" which as stephen fry would put it, works. 427781;1387566446;nubbins`;mircea_popescu: ah, those are called bachelor pads here 427782;1387566451;nubbins`;re: tiny homes 427783;1387566463;mircea_popescu;i thought re catholic priests. 427784;1387566464;the20year;One of my biz associates said there's a few RE investment firms looking to expand and want to talk to me 427785;1387566473;nubbins`;heh 427786;1387566504;the20year;They're all in limited geographic areas and don't want to branch out, which is one of the problems i'm trying to mitigate early on 427787;1387566521;mircea_popescu;so that;s good. 427788;1387566527;the20year;Yep 427789;1387566659;mircea_popescu;.d 427790;1387566659;ozbot;908350862.43702 | Next Diff in 90 blocks | Estimated Change: 31.0535% in 0d 10h 13m 39s 427791;1387566704;the20year;ouch 427792;1387566712;mircea_popescu;nothing can save it nao. 427793;1387566746;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2119 @ 0.00012 = 0.2543 BTC [+] 427794;1387566752;pankkake;probably santa mining with the gifts 427795;1387566753;KRS|Gotyawallet;see the mtgox press release dec 19? 427796;1387566782;the20year;no? 427797;1387566783;KRS|Gotyawallet;Now that we are working with MoneyPolo, a leading financial company that is in-tune with the future of Bitcoin, anyone with a verified account will be able to quickly send money to their MtGox account via 128 global currencies. 427798;1387566787;KRS|Gotyawallet;https://www.mtgox.com/press_release_20131219.html 427799;1387566787;ozbot;Mt.Gox - Bitcoin Exchange 427800;1387566792;the20year;wow 427801;1387566796;KRS|Gotyawallet;yeh 427802;1387566817;KRS|Gotyawallet;...then they're like BAM! 427803;1387566823;mircea_popescu;send money TO wasnt ever a problem 427804;1387566833;KRS|Gotyawallet;oh it was getting it out 427805;1387566838;mircea_popescu;and moneypolo is "leading" in the very limited universe in which mtgox also matters. 427806;1387566861;KRS|Gotyawallet;well...mt gox isn't designed like that. Between bad trades, fees are supposed to eat up your moneies anyway so getting fiat out isnt a problem. 427807;1387566866;KRS|Gotyawallet;I would think it should work both ways though. 427808;1387566875;asciilifeform;same universe that 'dwolla' existed in? 427809;1387566897;mircea_popescu;dwolla is about a degree of magnitude larger 427810;1387566905;mircea_popescu;sure, it's a tiny start-up, but still. 427811;1387566919;asciilifeform;(i still can't read 'dwolla' without thinking of nigerian spam. must be the consonant cluster.) 427812;1387566923;KRS|Gotyawallet;A: Withdrawals are coming with MoneyPolo, but not just yet. 427813;1387566933;the20year;is moneypolo licensed in the US/ 427814;1387566934;mircea_popescu;KRS|Gotyawallet :p 427815;1387566936;nubbins`; probably santa mining with the gifts <<< lel, isn't that bad for his chi? 427816;1387566944;mircea_popescu;if you've learned anything in this chan, it's reading betwixt the lines 427817;1387566949;pankkake;"we need to replete our fractionnal reserve first" 427818;1387566982;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform i think they named it african-sounding deliberately because sexually insecure california white hipster doofuses. 427819;1387567013;mircea_popescu;either that or someone got stuck on wala-wala. 427820;1387567053;mircea_popescu;(a small town hipster retreat close to seattle) 427821;1387567173;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 40661 @ 0.001 = 40.661 BTC 427822;1387568084;ThickAsThieves;neobee shareholders are surprisingly good at signing wallet messages 427823;1387568105;ThickAsThieves;and there is definitely a correlation to qty of shares held 427824;1387568271;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 500 @ 0.001 = 0.5 BTC 427825;1387568393;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7157 @ 0.00090757 = 6.4955 BTC [+] 427826;1387568562;benkay;what's alt-hopping pool of auto-cashing-out-in-btc repute? 427827;1387568648;KRS|Gotyawallet;mining different alt coins to capitalize on their value in hopes of trading up to more btc than otherwise would be mined directly? 427828;1387568728;KRS|Gotyawallet;i can quickly point my asics to mine different alt coins based on their profitability and go back if need be..auto cash out at preset levels 427829;1387568840;mircea_popescu;benkay i don't think one exists, tho there'd make defionite sense 427830;1387568868;TomServo;middlecoin? 427831;1387568872;benkay;that's it. 427832;1387568883;benkay;thanks TomServo. 427833;1387568884;mircea_popescu;one coin to rule them all or how did it go 427834;1387568891;TomServo;been going crazy lately 427835;1387569013;mircea_popescu;tbh i thought middlecoin was a coin not a pool 427836;1387569023;TomServo;nope 427837;1387569096;TomServo;I read somewhere earlier today the operator is doing something like $6K daily on 3%, if I remember correctly 427838;1387569137;mircea_popescu;there's a pool charging 3% which actually gets hash ?! wow. 427839;1387569168;TomServo;paid out 3208.42671599 BTC so far 427840;1387569196;mircea_popescu;pretty smart thing, anyway. 427841;1387569200;mircea_popescu;who's the guy ? 427842;1387569210;TomServo;h2odysee or something like that? 427843;1387569231;mircea_popescu;myeah. ok, this is an example of starting up right. joined in may 2013, by july he had a useful service. 427844;1387569279;mircea_popescu;kudos to him. 427845;1387569308;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 203 @ 0.001 = 0.203 BTC 427846;1387569373;TomServo;agreed. Definitely some secret sauce involved, choosing whichever alt is the best at the time 427847;1387569393;TomServo;folks claim he made a killing on doge, but won't admit it 427848;1387569395;TomServo;hah 427849;1387569411;mircea_popescu;folks like to think their stupidity is what makes the world turn. 427850;1387569422;mircea_popescu;and won't face any alternative explanation. 427851;1387569468;mircea_popescu;anyway, if his stats are accurate 3k paid out means he made 100 btc. 427852;1387569487;mircea_popescu;6k a day, but for two weeks. 427853;1387569502;TomServo;Yes, the 6k is a very recent thing 427854;1387569506;mircea_popescu;more like 500 a day irl, not that such a thing is bad 427855;1387569513;TomServo;You see the graph? 427856;1387569518;TomServo;middlecoin.com 427857;1387569529;mircea_popescu;yeah. 427858;1387569549;mircea_popescu;just forcing the point that "6k one day" != "6k a day" 427859;1387569595;TomServo;a fair point, I wasn't intending to misconstrue 427860;1387569659;mircea_popescu;this reminds me of the good days of porn 427861;1387569662;mircea_popescu;cca 1995 or so 427862;1387569666;the20year;For webmasters or what? 427863;1387569702;mircea_popescu;for "guy starts service, 3 months later he's making 500 a day" 427864;1387569780;mircea_popescu;just out of nowhere, like that. basically electricity is about as ubiquitous as cunt, and i guess crypto is electricity porn 427865;1387569785;mircea_popescu;weird how geek tastes change. 427866;1387569819;FabianB_;"anyone with a verified account will be able to quickly send money to their MtGox account via 128 global currencies." <-- 128 currencies? I only see 4 countries moneypolo operates in, how could that be 128 currencies? 427867;1387569840;mircea_popescu;FabianB_ max halfshortint ? 427868;1387569853;mircea_popescu;aka mtgox-pr 427869;1387569866;FabianB_;guess so 427870;1387570101;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37800 @ 0.00091096 = 34.4343 BTC [+] {4} 427871;1387571321;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00091394 = 7.4029 BTC [+] 427872;1387571565;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 7750 @ 0.00012 = 0.93 BTC [+] 427873;1387572785;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 66 @ 0.002799 = 0.1847 BTC [+] {3} 427874;1387573091;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3161 @ 0.00012 = 0.3793 BTC [+] 427875;1387573212;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 341 @ 0.00090757 = 0.3095 BTC [-] 427876;1387573394;jcpham;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1tcgox/my_first_month_of_bitcoin_the_good_the_bad_and/ 427877;1387573414;jcpham;1 month pro 427878;1387573430;mircea_popescu;lol 427879;1387573439;ThickAsThieves;http://www.aljazeera.com/news/americas/2013/12/canada-lifts-all-restrictions-prostitution-2013122015318412319.html 427880;1387573439;ozbot;Canada lifts all restrictions on prostitution - Americas - Al Jazeera English 427881;1387573450;ThickAsThieves;Nubbins can work in peace now! 427882;1387573456;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 27 @ 0.04878997 = 1.3173 BTC [+] 427883;1387573489;mircea_popescu;lolwut? 427884;1387573494;mircea_popescu;canada is starting to sound pretty ocol. 427885;1387573724;ThickAsThieves;"Only day trade with what you are willing to lose completely." 427886;1387573729;ThickAsThieves;pretty horrible day trading 427887;1387573875;jcpham;there's much wrong there 427888;1387573946;asciilifeform;children - like playing with matches. news at 11... 427889;1387574249;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12424 @ 0.00090592 = 11.2552 BTC [-] 427890;1387574291;ThickAsThieves;only eat what you are willing to shit completely 427891;1387574310;mircea_popescu;lmao 427892;1387574320;asciilifeform;no 427893;1387574322;asciilifeform;in this case, 427894;1387574331;asciilifeform;'only shit what you are willing to then eat.' 427895;1387574368;mircea_popescu;mor like only shit what you've completely eaten, uyeah 427896;1387574615;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7253 @ 0.00090592 = 6.5706 BTC [-] 427897;1387574798;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5832 @ 0.00090445 = 5.2748 BTC [-] 427898;1387574859;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 73 @ 0.04878997 = 3.5617 BTC [-] 427899;1387575103;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 100 @ 0.02021217 = 2.0212 BTC [-] {9} 427900;1387575226;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 93 @ 0.00280075 = 0.2605 BTC [-] {2} 427901;1387575267;ThickAsThieves;Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal also weighed in: "I remember when TV networks believed in the First Amendment. It is a messed up situation when Miley Cyrus gets a laugh, and Phil Robertson gets suspended." 427902;1387575296;ThickAsThieves;http://gawker.com/what-is-duck-dynasty-and-what-does-it-have-to-do-with-a-1486356857 427903;1387575296;ozbot;What Is Duck Dynasty and What Does It Have to Do With a Man's Anus? 427904;1387575371;Duffer1;i only knew about it from all the damned facebook spam "ZOMG ITS AND OUTRAGE LIBRUL MEDIA INTELIGENTSIA!!!!1111111" 427905;1387575442;mircea_popescu;it's the perfect storm for the us, really. 427906;1387575453;mircea_popescu;top rated show star gets canned for "hate speech" while quoting the bible. 427907;1387575460;Duffer1;i die a little inside every day :/ 427908;1387575475;mircea_popescu;it's finally worked itself into the perfect storm, this deep seething conflict. 427909;1387575544;mircea_popescu;a perfect illustration of the incredible damage lincoln's imbecillity did to that country. 427910;1387575558;the20year;what imbecillity? 427911;1387575577;Duffer1;after the civil war we should have just let the south separate 427912;1387575578;mircea_popescu;if the slavery question were allowed to die out rather than used as a pretext for a war, you wouldn't still be fighting over the mason-dixon line in 2013 ffs. 427913;1387575607;the20year;certainly would have been a very interesting situation 427914;1387575649;mircea_popescu;it's my considered opinion that if you make the sorted list of people that have hurt the us, lincoln tops it 427915;1387575654;mircea_popescu;bush may be in the top 5, but lincoln tops it. 427916;1387575666;TomServo;Can we hear all 5? 427917;1387575679;the20year;It can be hard to speculate how different things would be if we could swap decisions out 427918;1387575702;Duffer1;the harm done by lincoln was necessary imo, even if slavery was one of many reasons for the war, emancipation still needed to occur 427919;1387575711;TomServo;Yeah, I'm having trouble imagining how the question would 'die out' 427920;1387575727;the20year;There could of potentially been a slow transition 427921;1387575733;mircea_popescu;TomServo roosevelt probably not in there, as shocking as that may seem. hoover for sure tho. 427922;1387575747;mircea_popescu;Duffer1 emancipation was occuring anyway. 427923;1387575752;the20year;how do you rate hoover over FDR? 427924;1387575778;mircea_popescu;hardly half the inheritors of slaves intended to keep them past the death of their parents. 427925;1387575798;mircea_popescu;the20year that's a huge discussion tbh 427926;1387575836;mircea_popescu;TomServo because slavery was fundamentally an economic interest, and it is economically ineffectual. it WAS already dieing out at the time of the war 427927;1387575855;mircea_popescu;however, it was dieing out in a sustainable way, rather than creating the black ghettos that the war created. 427928;1387575862;Duffer1;even if they didn't intend to keep them, southern laws forbade their existence outside of any context that didn't revolve around a white master 427929;1387575882;mircea_popescu;Duffer1 slavery laws in the south were evolving, like any body of laws. 427930;1387575889;mircea_popescu;if you look at their evolution, the thing was doomed anwyay. 427931;1387575906;the20year;And slavery today isn't very popular at all , outside of sexual slavery which is a whole other ballgame 427932;1387575922;Duffer1;slavery laws weren't modernized until the 50's and 60s, i believe you're underestimating southern racism 427933;1387575924;the20year;And it's not like slavery was only existant in the US, as with anything ,money drives the gears 427934;1387575932;the20year;Duffer1: do you live in the south? 427935;1387575950;Duffer1;i grew up in texas 427936;1387575954;mircea_popescu;Duffer1 souther racism as you know it today is wholly the creation of the war. 427937;1387575963;mircea_popescu;it was entirely a different thing in 1820. 427938;1387576004;the20year;The thing is , of all the souterners i Know , none really were racist, but i've known plenty of ohio natives that were extremely racist. Heck my great uncle was in the KKK 427939;1387576019;mircea_popescu;in fact, pre-war southern racism is closest to modern day view on criminality. 427940;1387576032;mircea_popescu;you could argue that the way criminals are handled today is chiefly designed to keep them criminals 427941;1387576041;the20year;That's about right 427942;1387576041;mircea_popescu;nevertheless, people don't generally intend this. 427943;1387576074;Duffer1;they do 427944;1387576077;mircea_popescu;but the southerner recognised an extremely varied and complex hierarchy. black = slave = chattel is about as oversimplified as one can get. 427945;1387576087;Duffer1;it's a for-profit prison system 427946;1387576095;mircea_popescu;yeah, well. 427947;1387576110;mircea_popescu;so what's the gain of the war ? picked a different nigger to pile on ? 427948;1387576121;mircea_popescu;criminals "just happen" to be mostly black anyway, hooray for progress. 427949;1387576125;the20year;I'm not aware of any gain 427950;1387576133;TomServo;how was it economically ineffectual? 427951;1387576161;mircea_popescu;TomServo you get more gdp per capita out of 100 barristas trying to write hollywood scripts 427952;1387576165;mircea_popescu;than out of 100 field hands picking cotton. 427953;1387576169;the20year;Correct 427954;1387576186;Duffer1;the only gain from the war was emancipation, poverty was guaranteed regardless, except for those that left 427955;1387576186;the20year;Slaves were extremely ineffective at work, however a 'free' black was significantly more valuable 427956;1387576205;the20year;Look at price rates for irish vs germans vs blacks in new york state in the 1800s 427957;1387576222;TomServo;I knew I'd be displaying my ignorance asking that, ah well. Thanks. 427958;1387576284;the20year;It's a wonderful system we have here 427959;1387576297;the20year;While the rights of everyone gets trampled on over failed social projects 427960;1387576298;mircea_popescu;Duffer1 poverty was NOT guarantgeed regardless. 427961;1387576307;mircea_popescu;this is like saying famine in 1950s germany was guaranteed regardless. 427962;1387576318;mircea_popescu;when you go bomb the shit out of the infrastructure the end result is you'll be poor. 427963;1387576323;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 30 @ 0.04878997 = 1.4637 BTC [-] 427964;1387576327;Duffer1;it was illegal for them to own anything 427965;1387576346;mircea_popescu;that varied. 427966;1387576352;mircea_popescu;you familiar with the expression "sold down the river" ? 427967;1387576358;Duffer1;even if they stayed they were fully dependent 427968;1387576423;mircea_popescu;Duffer1 ^ 427969;1387576450;the20year;Not all of them 427970;1387576451;Duffer1;i've heard the expression 427971;1387576456;mircea_popescu;what do you think it means ? 427972;1387576518;Duffer1;sold to a harsher plantation owner 427973;1387576546;mircea_popescu;exactly. but looky : it is an act of betrayal, fundamentally.] 427974;1387576576;mircea_popescu;for there to be betrayal there must be trust. trust is the substance of contracts, which is exactly antithetical to how black-white relations are customarioly represented. 427975;1387576587;mircea_popescu;it is in fact the way the whites of the time represented them to themselves, mostly. 427976;1387576608;mircea_popescu;and now, the fact that upriver conditions are softer and downriver harser kind of proves that the situation is in fact evolving 427977;1387576612;mircea_popescu;rather than a set in stone thing. 427978;1387576619;mircea_popescu;which is the whole of my argument really. 427979;1387576785;Duffer1;i dunno, i feel it's a case of a little leaven fermenting the whole lump 427980;1387576819;mircea_popescu;perhaps. 427981;1387576839;the20year;With regards to racism? 427982;1387576860;mircea_popescu;on the other hand saying that the civil war the direct result of the southerner's staunch opposition to high taxes and unsound money coming into conflict with lincoln's vision of a leviathanesque all-controlling state. 427983;1387576875;mircea_popescu;that vision has meanwhile been realised, and unsurprising anyone with a clue, you mostly don't like it. 427984;1387576922;ThickAsThieves;i think most americans are more apathetic than that 427985;1387576931;the20year;There was a pretty interesting quote made by a southern general after the war, i need to dig it up, being just about that. And that over time the civil war would be made about slavery and nothing else 427986;1387576933;mircea_popescu;perhaps. 427987;1387576954;mircea_popescu;the20year nothing new in this world except the history you never read and all that. 427988;1387576979;mircea_popescu;obviously the statal propaganda machine will have tried to make it all about a simple, cut and dried issue. 427989;1387576994;mircea_popescu;the soviet's (failed) invasion in afghanistan was also about greater justice. 427990;1387577015;Duffer1;macro economics isn't as eye catching as the horrors of slavery 427991;1387577019;the20year;Essentially his quote was that he, nor anyone he knew in the south fought for slavery, but against federalism. And that it would be replaced with slavery as time went on since education in the south would likely be federalized by notherners 427992;1387577045;mircea_popescu;basically obama's ideas that he can arrest anyone at any time for any rteason ? 427993;1387577055;mircea_popescu;it has ample precedent. that precedent is the government of lincoln. 427994;1387577077;Duffer1;or bush as a more modern example :P 427995;1387577078;mircea_popescu;not any sort of country anyone'd wish to live in, but then again people living in shitholes rarely get the choice. 427996;1387577163;the20year;19th century history is pretty simplified too, for public consumption 427997;1387577197;the20year;(With war leadups being my complaint) as far as it is in US schools 427998;1387577207;the20year;granted, i was taught in school that the civil war was bout states rights and money :D 427999;1387577238;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00012 = 0.12 BTC [+] 428000;1387577274;Duffer1;they claimed "states rights" meanwhile they were trying to unite the south in its own federal control and mandate a single religion 428001;1387577293;Duffer1;they didn't want states rights, they wanted the north to stop telling them what to do 428002;1387577576;mircea_popescu;Duffer1 arguably this may have been the case. 428003;1387577585;mircea_popescu;had it been the case i'd have perhaps had a different name to top my list 428004;1387577590;mircea_popescu;but as it is, lincoln carries it. 428005;1387577646;mircea_popescu;but obviously no conflict in human history was between the good and the evil. even if no conflict in human history failed being depicted as such. by both sides, of course. 428006;1387577713;Duffer1;i think lincoln is a good choice, the damage done is undeniable 428007;1387577755;Duffer1;he was even deporting reporters to canada 428008;1387577787;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00090502 = 4.7061 BTC [+] 428009;1387577831;Duffer1;the precedent set the stage for massive constitutional overreach 428010;1387577849;mircea_popescu;that's a machine that's still slapping people today. 428011;1387577870;Duffer1;yep :/ 428012;1387577920;the20year;So, why hoover? 428013;1387577954;mircea_popescu;hoover because he's to this day the prototype of every corrupt cop going into the service to feel up young women and beat up boys. 428014;1387577967;mircea_popescu;name one sane thing he did. 428015;1387577975;Duffer1;herbert? 428016;1387577991;mircea_popescu;j edgar 428017;1387577992;Duffer1;seems j edgar fits that definition way better 428018;1387578010;the20year;I thought you were talking about herbert, as edgar wasn't president 428019;1387578026;Duffer1;arguably more powerful though 428020;1387578036;mircea_popescu;it doesn't have to be presidents does it ? 428021;1387578040;Duffer1;dude was pure evil 428022;1387578043;the20year;Not that I like herbert, he's on my top bad president list 428023;1387578050;the20year;i assumed the list was US presidents 428024;1387578060;mircea_popescu;i dunno, seems kind-of not-notable, herbert. 428025;1387578074;the20year;Smoot hawley is why I don't like him 428026;1387578079;mircea_popescu;the20year no, i said "people" 428027;1387578084;the20year;Which destroyed the potential legacy of coolidge 428028;1387578085;the20year;ah 428029;1387578098;the20year;in the US or worldwide? 428030;1387578107;the20year;because no US citizen would take my top 5 bad people list 428031;1387578109;mircea_popescu;people. 428032;1387578124;mircea_popescu;as long as they're people dun matter where they're born or what function they get. 428033;1387578139;the20year;So you'd take lincoln over pol pot? 428034;1387578147;mircea_popescu;how's pol pot hurt the us ? 428035;1387578156;mircea_popescu;in general you'll find most damaging are the insiders, not the outsiders. 428036;1387578165;mircea_popescu;admittedly exceptions can exist, but still. 428037;1387578179;the20year;Guess I was confused as to the list 428038;1387578194;Duffer1;american assholes, top 5 :P 428039;1387578197;mircea_popescu;it's not "bad presidents", it's "people that hurt the us" 428040;1387578200;the20year;Nevermind, list of people who have hurt the uS 428041;1387578265;mircea_popescu;making a list of "bad" people generally is really an exercise in measuring the weight of air, in air, with a scale and weights made out of air. 428042;1387578280;mircea_popescu;cloudwatching, basically. 428043;1387578288;Duffer1;hehe 428044;1387578353;mircea_popescu;pt barnum might be on the top 10. 428045;1387578368;Duffer1;oo interesting 428046;1387578410;Duffer1;without the circus the bread isn't enough? 428047;1387578458;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1691 @ 0.00012 = 0.2029 BTC [+] 428048;1387578467;mircea_popescu;well, i have some respect for the variety tradition, but barnum is a sort of paul little without a cause. 428049;1387578502;jurov;what about oprah winfrey? 428050;1387578506;mircea_popescu;possibly us entertainment sucks so bad to this day because him. 428051;1387578512;mircea_popescu;jurov well i don't include live people. 428052;1387578549;mircea_popescu;(paul little = max hardcore, the cheap makeup and vomit porn guy) 428053;1387578561;mike_c;who are the top 5 people who hurt romania? 428054;1387578588;mircea_popescu;carol the 2nd definitely tops that. 428055;1387578613;the20year;And top 5 for france? 428056;1387578620;mircea_popescu;stalin, hitler... small country in europe whadda ya want. 428057;1387578621;Duffer1;;;wikipedia carol the second 428058;1387578622;gribble;Error: "wikipedia" is not a valid command. 428059;1387578634;mike_c;hehe carol: Known more for his romantic misadventures than for any leadership skills, 428060;1387578641;mircea_popescu;guy was an outrage. 428061;1387578687;mircea_popescu;france got hurt bad by hitler, perhaps worse by wilhelm, 428062;1387578722;mircea_popescu;the schmuck that joan of arc wanted on the throne ain't so good either, and then with the 1789 revolutions you got plenty of nutty socialists to pick from 428063;1387578730;the20year;Petan? 428064;1387578738;mircea_popescu;i dunno, top 100 maybe. 428065;1387578748;mircea_popescu;why's he notable ? 428066;1387578764;mircea_popescu;(petain you mean, the vichy guy ?) 428067;1387578770;the20year;vichy 428068;1387578800;mircea_popescu;you know before vichy he was the one guy in the top brass that objected to their nutty "infantry charge" tactics 428069;1387578806;mircea_popescu;on thegrounds that well... bullets kill. 428070;1387578908;pankkake;not sure about Petain himself, but the Vichy gov started a lot of shit that are still going on today 428071;1387578912;mircea_popescu;(since we're doing this : guy kept fucking around, and eventually married, aged 60. the woman's name was hardon) 428072;1387579007;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 25020 @ 0.00012 = 3.0024 BTC [+] 428073;1387579065;mircea_popescu;mike_c guy's father, carol 1st however, is probably the model monarch. 428074;1387579068;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7740 @ 0.00090445 = 7.0004 BTC [-] 428075;1387579078;pankkake;many forms of unique IDs, the ponzi retirement system, minimum wage, daylight savings, mother's day 428076;1387579085;mircea_popescu;bah, father. wasn't his father, they were barely related, nm me. 428077;1387579101;mircea_popescu;pankkake the ponzi retirement system was invented by von bismarck. 428078;1387579115;mircea_popescu;his idea was that people will have incentive to keep killing each other so as to avoid ponzi effects. 428079;1387579152;pankkake;the fun thing is that those things are usually claimed as own "victories" from the left! 428080;1387579174;the20year;Of course they are 428081;1387579202;mircea_popescu;you get better anal sex when the girl regards taking it in the ass as her own, personal victory. 428082;1387579219;asciilifeform;'ponzi retirement' had ample precedent: 'Tontine.' 428083;1387579224;pankkake;though right after the war he had the healthcare thanks to communists 428084;1387579228;mircea_popescu;kinda why porn is so important. makes sex better for everyone. 428085;1387579240;asciilifeform;tontine <- 16th c.? 428086;1387579243;pankkake;does tontine work with debt? 428087;1387579254;pankkake;I thought it was just a pot 428088;1387579260;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform fun fact : "tont" is one of the many ways to say dumb in romanian. 428089;1387579312;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00090502 = 5.8826 BTC [+] 428090;1387579460;the20year;mircea_popescu: if we released rentalstarter to mpex, how much funding do yo uthink we could raise? 428091;1387579479;mircea_popescu;i don't think god himself can answer that. 428092;1387579516;mircea_popescu;s.nsa raised ~500 btc, if memory serves. s.mg ~10k. s.dice about 50k or so. s.bvps if i recall correctly about 100 428093;1387579541;Duffer1;do you have a target 20? 428094;1387579565;the20year;Depends on terms, i'd love to raise more capital via shares, as long as I can keep some equity in it, but i'd prefer just standard bank leverage 428095;1387579592;the20year;If more shares and i get to keep equity, around $100k USD 428096;1387579596;mircea_popescu;you'll definitely be keepiong a 50% stake. 428097;1387579603;the20year;That's good to hear :D 428098;1387579610;mircea_popescu;well you have to, the way the contracts are made 428099;1387579620;mircea_popescu;(mpex shares are non voting. as a result, the operator has to maintain majority) 428100;1387579624;the20year;Right now the way it's written if we can hit $250k in capital, I get a performance bonus 428101;1387579644;mike_c;a performance bonus for raising capital? 428102;1387579650;mircea_popescu;that seems odd. 428103;1387579664;mircea_popescu;is it mostly your friends and family backing you so far ? 428104;1387579674;the20year;$250k based on the initial investment of $92k , or a total growth of 271% 428105;1387579689;mikaeldice;Increased investment isn't growth 428106;1387579703;the20year;I meant capital growth in terms of equity/assets in the company 428107;1387579732;mircea_popescu;normal talk makes producers walk... 428108;1387579736;the20year;lol 428109;1387579753;the20year;in other words i shouldn't be typing when i'm doing 5 other things and not paying attention to what goes on IRC 428110;1387579770;pizzaman1337;any person that wants to list on mpex first needs to pay the registration fee, right? 428111;1387579773;mircea_popescu;irc is your life. you will honor it as if it iwere your life. 428112;1387579784;mircea_popescu;pizzaman1337 there's fees to list, yes. 428113;1387579791;the20year;and blood oaths 428114;1387579795;pizzaman1337;different from the registration fee? how much is it? 428115;1387579818;mircea_popescu;there's not an "it", this isn't aluminum siding. 428116;1387579823;Duffer1;;;google mpex list fee 428117;1387579824;gribble;Loper OS » A Review of MPEx, the Bitcoin Stock Exchange.: ; English - MPEx: ; MPEx - Bitcoin: 428118;1387579838;mircea_popescu;bwahaha asciilifeform look at that! you're now an authority! 428119;1387579922;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2500 @ 0.00012 = 0.3 BTC [+] 428120;1387579982;pankkake;only because trilema is banned? 428121;1387580016;benkay;mircea_popescu: what is the listing fee? 428122;1387580017;mircea_popescu;o it is ? 428123;1387580033;mircea_popescu;benkay there isn't a fixed fee. you negotiate it when you list. 428124;1387580087;benkay;ah. 428125;1387580105;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 40 @ 0.02240347 = 0.8961 BTC [+] {5} 428126;1387580201;KRS|Gotyawallet;i'd wait til it goes on sale to list 428127;1387580230;mircea_popescu;ya, that strategy worked great for the ppl wanting accounts :D 428128;1387580236;KRS|Gotyawallet;lol 428129;1387580256;mircea_popescu;i stgill have mail going "whatg, 500 dollars for a seat ?! THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS!! HOW DARE YOU!!!" 428130;1387580271;KRS|Gotyawallet;i heard once a year there are complimentary seat offers 428131;1387580285;KRS|Gotyawallet;lol still 428132;1387580293;mircea_popescu;yeah, bring 6 friends get yours free. 428133;1387580327;KRS|Gotyawallet;so if i buy 6 seats i can resell 7 thats tight 428134;1387580349;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 943 @ 0.00279898 = 2.6394 BTC [-] {3} 428135;1387580380;Duffer1;ha 428136;1387580472;KRS|Gotyawallet;theres actually decent volume..just need to work on the graphics a bit :D 428137;1387580497;mike_c;wow that link on ascii dissecting mpex. I guess a few things have changed since february. 428138;1387580531;KRS|Gotyawallet;im retro like that, i dig ascii too..nothing like simplicity. 428139;1387580723;mircea_popescu;io dun even recall waht it says. is it bad ? 428140;1387580756;mike_c;not really bad. but conclusion is that he's not plunking any money down on mpex. now he has a company listed there. 428141;1387580774;mircea_popescu;lol 428142;1387580776;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 400 @ 0.001 = 0.4 BTC 428143;1387580782;mircea_popescu;jurov : pr! check it out. 428144;1387581048;asciilifeform;http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/12/20/us-usa-security-rsa-idUSBRE9BJ1C220131220 428145;1387581049;ozbot;Exclusive: Secret contract tied NSA and security industry pioneer 428146;1387581192;mircea_popescu;ha! 428147;1387581232;asciilifeform;the only real news here is the actual cash value of one particular bribe. 428148;1387581240;mircea_popescu;rsa sold out fort 10mn 428149;1387581248;Duffer1;i wonder if that makes rsa legally vulnerable to fraud suites 428150;1387581248;mircea_popescu;chjeap. 428151;1387581252;asciilifeform;to be fair, we see the carrot, but not the stick. 428152;1387581284;asciilifeform;'execs can also have problems. and here, have $10m.' is rather more humane than 'execs can also have problems. get down on yer knees, ready to please.' 428153;1387581315;mircea_popescu;selling s.nsa shares. 428154;1387581332;mircea_popescu;will take three us govt brass daughters per. 428155;1387581342;mircea_popescu;if twins or dungeon broken, 2 per. 428156;1387581359;Duffer1;dungeon broken? 428157;1387581365;asciilifeform;3.5 if they can run a reflow line. 428158;1387581374;Duffer1;i think i'm too young to hear that one 428159;1387581386;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.06210002 = 0.1863 BTC [+] 428160;1387581528;mircea_popescu;like housebroken, but for the other kind of pets. 428161;1387581554;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform no see, if they can run a reflow line they get to sit at the table with the adults. 428162;1387581560;Duffer1;ohh i thought it was a euphemism for.. well n/m 428163;1387581675;Duffer1;tell us how long it takes before nsa contacts you 428164;1387581698;Duffer1;about changing gpg to something less secure 428165;1387581701;mircea_popescu;herp. 428166;1387581709;mircea_popescu;they'll have to come beg here, like everyone else. 428167;1387581719;asciilifeform;nsa did write me a letter once: 'dear mr. s, we regret to inform you that we have no openings matching your..... ' 428168;1387581728;mircea_popescu;so if you see a lot of "plz to change gpg it is hard to use" you can guess it's them. 428169;1387581794;Duffer1;does s.nsa have any marketing budget? / plans to set up shop at security conferences etc? 428170;1387581824;mircea_popescu;yes / maybe if we find a good outsourcer. 428171;1387581948;benkay;outsourced person to do conference show-upping? 428172;1387582019;mike_c;outsourcing evangelism is tough for such a technical product. 428173;1387582038;mike_c;anybody qualified would be expensive! 428174;1387582066;Duffer1;cardano seems pretty simple, even i got it 428175;1387582074;asciilifeform;what will be interesting is: once the idiot imitators show up. 428176;1387582093;asciilifeform;(and insist, through their misfortunes, on providing free marketing for the real deal.) 428177;1387582109;Duffer1;hehe 428178;1387582118;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12572 @ 0.00090383 = 11.363 BTC [-] {2} 428179;1387582145;asciilifeform;not unlike, if i'm not mistaken, what is happening with mpex. 428180;1387582174;mike_c;PR stunt: pit cardano against that website that guesses your number 428181;1387582202;mircea_popescu;mike_c gotta give the twentysomething enthusiasts a way in. 428182;1387582203;asciilifeform;mike_c: i wrote that. (or actually, johnny von neumann did.) 428183;1387582208;asciilifeform;mike_c: someone actually did this with an rsa keyfob! 428184;1387582211;asciilifeform;the fob lost. 428185;1387582212;mircea_popescu;the current bs they do, setting up shop and pretending like they matter and exist is for the ducks. 428186;1387582214;mike_c;hehe 428187;1387582226;mircea_popescu;the correct way is to do for instance conference evanghelizing for s.nsa fior a uyear. 428188;1387582264;mircea_popescu;you wanna be a car executive you don't show up at the vp meeting acting like you belong there 428189;1387582269;mircea_popescu;unless you want to sleep in jail. 428190;1387582416;asciilifeform;the game in question, for anyone on whom it has not been inflicted: 428191;1387582417;asciilifeform;http://www.loper-os.org/bad-at-entropy/manmach.html 428192;1387582417;ozbot;Man vs. Machine. 428193;1387582443;BingoBoingo;Speaking of efforts to make GPG more easy to use, this is happening http://goteo.org/project/gnupg-new-website-and-infrastructure 428194;1387582509;mike_c;fuck! i hate that mindreading robot. 428195;1387582669;mike_c;fail. http://i.imgur.com/JKY7bwv.png 428196;1387582693;Duffer1;.bait 428197;1387582694;ozbot;http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6t381DAbS1qbvikdo1_1280.jpg 428198;1387582751;Duffer1;how dare you speak ill of ozbot 428199;1387582797;mike_c;ozbot is a good robot that does what its told. ascii's robot reads my mind in uncomfortable ways. 428200;1387582821;mircea_popescu;is that a birthmark or a beltmark ozbot ? 428201;1387582856;Duffer1;let me look at it some more 428202;1387582865;mircea_popescu;mike_c here's a bomb for you : there exists a sequence which makes the bot get 0% 428203;1387582875;mircea_popescu;this is what nsa paid asciilifeform 10 bazilion for. 428204;1387582941;jurov;mhm jurov 100: machine 98 428205;1387582941;mike_c;hehe. well, i could write a counter-bot pretty quickly since he provided the source code. 428206;1387582951;BingoBoingo;Has radioactive decay improved its entropy to compete with the Cardano yet? 428207;1387582956;mircea_popescu;ahahaha 428208;1387582960;assbot;Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1515620/plain/) 428209;1387582960;mircea_popescu;!b 2 428210;1387582978;mircea_popescu;mike_c i give you an hour. .1 btc if you manage. 428211;1387582985;mike_c;done. go. 428212;1387583019;mircea_popescu;#bitcoin-assets hackhaton. 428213;1387583064;ThickAsThieves;i forgot my hat 428214;1387583117;mircea_popescu;but in the interest of sanity : obviously radioactive decay is purely entropic. the methods people use to try and extract that entropy however... tsk. 428215;1387583277;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1390 @ 0.0004302 = 0.598 BTC [-] {2} 428216;1387583399;KRS|Gotyawallet;i see you know a thing or two about physics mircea_popescu 428217;1387583411;mircea_popescu;like 1.5 428218;1387583414;KRS|Gotyawallet;postulate quantum mechanics much? 428219;1387583452;mircea_popescu;supposedly i was a theoretical physicist in my youth 428220;1387583476;KRS|Gotyawallet;its a bit of a fun distraction for me 428221;1387583494;KRS|Gotyawallet;i've been reading about that sort of thing since i was just a kid 428222;1387583541;KRS|Gotyawallet;the higgs discovery on mass earlier this year was phenom 428223;1387583704;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00090364 = 9.2171 BTC [-] 428224;1387583765;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 97 @ 0.01900061 = 1.8431 BTC [-] {5} 428225;1387584314;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4597 @ 0.00090555 = 4.1628 BTC [+] {2} 428226;1387584956;mike_c;ha, screw that bot. http://jsfiddle.net/dWaUZ/3/ 428227;1387585114;mike_c;this is educational as well. i am surprised at the patterns that fool it. 428228;1387585139;mircea_popescu;halfway there ? 428229;1387585186;mike_c;um, not sure exactly what the challenge was. i'm done! 428230;1387585192;mike_c;http://jsfiddle.net/dWaUZ/3/ 428231;1387585192;ozbot;Edit fiddle - JSFiddle 428232;1387585215;mircea_popescu;too much js to help me. 428233;1387585218;mike_c;i could publish an arbitrary number of long strings of numbers that win 428234;1387585223;mike_c;you can just play and win 428235;1387585228;mike_c;oh, you can't see it 428236;1387585229;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00090665 = 4.8052 BTC [+] 428237;1387585247;mircea_popescu;basically you were writing a bot that played and won. 428238;1387585261;mike_c;you have JS on at all? i could publish the html/js somewhere else 428239;1387585261;mircea_popescu;this is != writing a string that works. 428240;1387585272;mike_c;i can provide strings of arbitrary length 428241;1387585273;mircea_popescu;you can just pb the code. 428242;1387585278;mike_c;i just did :) 428243;1387585297;mircea_popescu;uh 428244;1387585306;mircea_popescu;pastebin.com ? dpaste.com ? something that actually spits out text 428245;1387585311;mike_c;k 428246;1387585324;mircea_popescu;i dunno what that site threw at me, but it didn't werk 428247;1387585336;asciilifeform;the magic string is at this point known to everyone, some wag posted it on reddit 428248;1387585342;asciilifeform;it's a consequence of how the markov chain works 428249;1387585348;mike_c;this is better! 428250;1387585349;asciilifeform;but you aren't really winning 428251;1387585355;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform that was going to be my killing blow once he failed. 428252;1387585373;asciilifeform;you still 'lose at entropy' because now you have clear pattern. 428253;1387585422;mircea_popescu;ok, but the game was beat your opponent not beat the idea of chess 428254;1387585431;asciilifeform;i still find it hilarious how much time people burned playing with that thing. 428255;1387585450;mike_c;hang on, creating html file you can download and play locally 428256;1387585453;mircea_popescu;twist : that playing was generally a better use of that time than the alternatives they had 428257;1387585489;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: this could by why mswinblows came with 'minesweeper' 428258;1387585524;mircea_popescu;im kind-of surprised nobody made minestripper. 428259;1387585532;mircea_popescu;same idea except with progressive nudity. 428260;1387585538;mircea_popescu;oh us, why u so violent! 428261;1387585566;wao-ender;mm 428262;1387585573;asciilifeform;obligatory: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHY8NKj3RKs 428263;1387585584;wao-ender;mircea_popescu: I just thinking about something similiar you just wrote at trilema http://trilema.com/2012/probably-the-hottest-business-idea-of-the-moment-in-btc/ (thx 2 jurov) 428264;1387585601;wao-ender;mircea_popescu: and my Q is, did you made some progress on it? 428265;1387585618;mircea_popescu;wao-ender hardly. 428266;1387585643;wao-ender;also, I have in my head some cat bonds, did you heard of them? 428267;1387585680;mircea_popescu;uyeah 428268;1387585708;wao-ender;what do you think of? I just had talk with some guy who is pro in risk assests managment 428269;1387585709;mircea_popescu;technically that's what the mpoe bonds are. 428270;1387585710;mike_c;https://mega.co.nz/#!7UJTFCZZ!LGD7Wk8CSVUZgL0C4fqebBVsMfkvnzaOAgkPd5D_pkM 428271;1387585711;ozbot;MEGA 428272;1387585713;wao-ender;ah 428273;1387585722;wao-ender;ok then 428274;1387585724;mircea_popescu;you looked into how those work ? 428275;1387585728;wao-ender;not yet 428276;1387585745;mike_c;so you can play as normal, except it hints you what to press next 428277;1387585747;mircea_popescu;aite, they've been used for ~2 years to cover the options bot on mpex 428278;1387585767;wao-ender;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131270.0 428279;1387585772;mircea_popescu;mike_c da heck is that, you're just recursing the algo lol 428280;1387585778;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16710 @ 0.00091086 = 15.2205 BTC [+] {2} 428281;1387585781;mircea_popescu;gotta put some clever into it! 428282;1387585781;mike_c;exactly! much more fun. 428283;1387585795;mike_c;what, a counter-bot has to be complicated? :) 428284;1387585803;mircea_popescu;no, but it has to be counter 428285;1387585806;mircea_popescu;rather than a re-bot 428286;1387585811;mike_c;it's pretty counter. i'm up like 100-0 428287;1387585818;mircea_popescu;you would be lol 428288;1387585898;mike_c;i assumed we were not connecting semantically on the challenge. i did it for fun :) 428289;1387585952;ThickAsThieves;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_6p-1J551Y#t=129 428290;1387585952;ozbot;The Cubli: a cube that can jump up, balance, and 'walk' - YouTube 428291;1387585961;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 24 @ 0.09299994 = 2.232 BTC [+] {3} 428292;1387585963;mircea_popescu;:p 428293;1387586327;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.2929 = 0.5858 BTC [-] 428294;1387586388;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 7 @ 0.02259 = 0.1581 BTC [+] 428295;1387586632;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.02259 = 0.113 BTC [+] 428296;1387586794;ThickAsThieves;http://investor.fb.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=815488 428297;1387586797;ozbot;Facebook Announces Pricing of Follow-On Offering - Facebook 428298;1387586807;ThickAsThieves;$1.5b in stock 428299;1387587081;mircea_popescu;heh 428300;1387587242;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 30 @ 0.04886599 = 1.466 BTC [+] {3} 428301;1387587303;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 31 @ 0.04888 = 1.5153 BTC [+] {2} 428302;1387588523;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7685 @ 0.00091072 = 6.9989 BTC [-] 428303;1387589255;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34367 @ 0.00090799 = 31.2049 BTC [-] {4} 428304;1387589316;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20628 @ 0.00090625 = 18.6941 BTC [-] 428305;1387589682;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14889 @ 0.00090511 = 13.4762 BTC [-] 428306;1387590340;copumpkin;MPOE is pretty shallow 428307;1387590349;copumpkin;need moar market makin' 428308;1387590620;pizzaman1337;what's the best bitcoin accepting VPS provider these days? 428309;1387590658;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15293 @ 0.00090526 = 13.8441 BTC [+] {2} 428310;1387590669;asciilifeform;pizzaman1337: hard to say 'best', but there are several which appear to work 'as printed on the box.' 428311;1387590680;pizzaman1337;asciilifeform: any that you recommend? 428312;1387590713;pizzaman1337;wait, I wonder if you can use AWS with an amazon gift card, which you could buy with BTC... 428313;1387590719;asciilifeform;sure. 428314;1387590726;pizzaman1337;ok, nvm then 428315;1387590765;pizzaman1337;the internet seems to disagree: http://www.quora.com/Amazon/Can-I-use-Amazon-gift-cards-to-pay-for-AWS 428316;1387590920;KRS|Gotyawallet;jurov has a free shell 428317;1387590942;pizzaman1337;I want something I can "completely" control 428318;1387591000;benkay;nice air quotes 428319;1387591142;KRS|Gotyawallet;heh 428320;1387591149;KRS|Gotyawallet;something with a gui right 428321;1387591219;pizzaman1337;no, I mean, something I can trust more than a shell on some else's box. I want root. 428322;1387591228;benkay;"trust" 428323;1387591451;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 315 @ 0.001 = 0.315 BTC 428324;1387591551;mircea_popescu;you don't get root with amazon cloud. 428325;1387591573;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.0009035 = 3.614 BTC [-] {2} 428326;1387591623;asciilifeform;http://www.usatoday.com/story/nation/2013/12/19/maj-gen-michael-carey-nuclear-missiles-alcohol/4131963/ 428327;1387591623;ozbot;Air Force disciplines nuke general for alcohol binge 428328;1387591678;Duffer1;push button to end our species 428329;1387591684;Duffer1;i'd be an alcoholic too 428330;1387591685;pizzaman1337;I guess it depends on your definition of root? 428331;1387591695;mircea_popescu;after his alcohol-fueled binge on a two-day visit to Moscow in July that included a late-night meeting with local women and offensive behavior to his Russian hosts. 428332;1387591702;mircea_popescu;what are these people, retarded ? 428333;1387591715;mircea_popescu;who offended russians by drinking ? is this alternate ustard reality or something ? 428334;1387591733;Duffer1;maybe he dissed their vodka 428335;1387591757;asciilifeform;implication is that he failed to 'hold his liquor' 428336;1387591761;BingoBoingo;Obviously this disciplinary case should have been referred to me for adjudication 428337;1387591764;mircea_popescu;maybe some 5rd wheel aide chick was offended. 428338;1387591797;asciilifeform;http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2013/12/19/an_american_nuclear_general_gets_fired_for_booze_fuelled_moscow_bender.html 428339;1387591797;ozbot;An American nuclear general gets fired for booze-fuelled Moscow bender. 428340;1387591808;asciilifeform;A tobacco store lady talking about physics in the wee hours of the morning doesnt make a whole lot of sense to me, Carey told investigators..." 428341;1387591833;mircea_popescu;Carey interrupted a monastery tour guide with slurred speech, sulked on a group walk through Red Square and later tried to sing with a band at a Mexican restaurant in Moscow. They refused to let him. 428342;1387591834;mircea_popescu;lmao 428343;1387591858;mircea_popescu;clearly the man is not fit for any job. he is not bland, he is not overlycautious 428344;1387591880;mircea_popescu;i say take his citizenship, he doesn't fit in. 428345;1387591933;mircea_popescu;"I've never been more embarrassed professionally in my life with a senior member." aka, you should see the junior members. 428346;1387591975;mircea_popescu;anyway. i wonder how many shitty officers are breathing easy now, because they won't get fired because well... they dont' get drunk so it's all ok. 428347;1387591985;asciilifeform;the riotously funny part: which beans exactly is the general to spill? 428348;1387591994;asciilifeform;'PALs are still set to code 00000'? 428349;1387592000;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.04888 = 0.4888 BTC [+] 428350;1387592026;asciilifeform;'u.s. missile defense still requires rocket to broadcast its location, at least 1kW loud.' 428351;1387592061;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12975 @ 0.00090325 = 11.7197 BTC [-] {2} 428352;1387592083;asciilifeform;'president buys his coke in a transformer booth at Eastern Market st.' 428353;1387592122;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00090625 = 3.2625 BTC [+] 428354;1387592217;Duffer1;well he can't get it on SR any more so where else is he going to get hooked up? 428355;1387592225;mod6;heheh 428356;1387592427;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 32 @ 0.04888 = 1.5642 BTC [+] 428357;1387592479;KRS1;thought sr was back up 428358;1387592494;KRS1;havent others popped up now 428359;1387592525;Duffer1;oh probably 428360;1387592534;asciilifeform;there was the honeypot one that shat out its complete customer list 428361;1387592544;asciilifeform;and where 'somebody' absconded with the treasure chest 428362;1387592605;mircea_popescu;wao-ender incidentally : bitbet is a cat bond escrow by default. 428363;1387592610;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.049399 = 0.1976 BTC [+] 428364;1387592671;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00090248 = 11.4615 BTC [-] {2} 428365;1387592793;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 12 @ 0.08122499 = 0.9747 BTC [+] {4} 428366;1387592794;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.05 = 0.2 BTC [+] 428367;1387593037;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8373 @ 0.00089998 = 7.5355 BTC [-] {2} 428368;1387593098;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2254 @ 0.00089789 = 2.0238 BTC [-] {2} 428369;1387593672;KRS1;fwiw sources are saying btc market could correct down to ~ $360 - $400's market price 428370;1387593717;spokesz;!jd 428371;1387593717;assbot;Just-Dice stat: 10562 BTC profit, 35.3k BTC invested, 364.83 mio bets, 4.64 mio BTC wagered 428372;1387593827;harkbarker;http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/20/5231006/nsa-paid-10-million-for-a-back-door-into-rsa-encryption-according-to 428373;1387593827;ozbot;NSA paid $10 million to put its backdoor in RSA encryption, according to Reuters report | The Verge 428374;1387593916;asciilifeform;wonder when we'll get the lamer circus - 'rsa algo sucks, let's use bozocrypt' 428375;1387595177;dj_jazzy_jeff_;hello? 428376;1387595222;kakobrekla;hi 428377;1387596514;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5000 @ 0.00012 = 0.6 BTC [+] 428378;1387596657;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform bozocrypt is better because secret sauce. 428379;1387596807;fiat500;"KRS1> fwiw sources are saying " 428380;1387596814;fiat500;sources? bitcoin market insiders? 428381;1387596926;fiat500;im just imagining some dude with 1000s of BTC saying "yeah i want to sell off super fast such that i cause the price to plummet and in turn lose a lot of money" 428382;1387597011;mircea_popescu;krs has been a little antsy of late. 428383;1387597119;fiat500;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67547.msg4066329#msg4066329 428384;1387597122;ozbot;Starting a new FPGA mining farm/contract Cognitive Resurrected on[Havelock] 428385;1387597128;fiat500;*facepalm* 428386;1387597220;kakobrekla;fuck you fiat500 you slanderous soul 428387;1387597220;mircea_popescu;derp. 428388;1387597236;fiat500;kakobrekla: what did i slander exactly? 428389;1387597238;mircea_popescu;this new learning amazes me >D 428390;1387597241;CuWireBeard;"resurrected"? Is that what they're calling it nowadays 428391;1387597243;mircea_popescu;fiat500 he's being very sarcastic. 428392;1387597249;fiat500;oh, lol 428393;1387597256;fiat500;fair enough then 428394;1387597256;mircea_popescu;CuWireBeard its one of the original global scam exchange "investments" 428395;1387597263;mircea_popescu;it was resurected like... every summer now 428396;1387597320;fiat500;in my mind this is worse than a scam, its just sheer incompetence, how do you collect 900 btc for hardware purchases and end up sourcing only 28TH/s for delivery sometime next year? 428397;1387597350;mircea_popescu;guess. 428398;1387597368;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12300 @ 0.0008873 = 10.9138 BTC [-] 428399;1387597371;CuWireBeard;But BFL was the future of BTC mining 428400;1387597382;fiat500;thats 30btc im never going to see again, breaks my heart really 428401;1387597489;fiat500;iirc goat was closer to 140btc into this 428402;1387597504;mircea_popescu;goat says lots ofthings. 428403;1387597509;mircea_popescu;most of which aren't actually true. 428404;1387597529;fiat500;nah he traded in some hw for 700 shares at ~0.2 428405;1387597586;Duffer1;where is goat now days? 428406;1387597598;fiat500;spoke to him last week, he's around 428407;1387597644;fiat500;lol@ this http://just-dice.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2013-12-14T12:32:00-08:00&max-results=7 428408;1387597671;fiat500;more creative destruction of wealth, its a new economy 428409;1387597718;Duffer1;how did i know that was going to be about nokawa 428410;1387597746;kakobrekla;cant belive "one guy vs random" gets so much coverage 428411;1387597805;kakobrekla;or should i say vs 1% house edge 428412;1387597847;mike_c;funniest part of that article: nakowa donated 10btc to the people in the chat room at the time, including the author. the author proceeded to gamble it away immediately. 428413;1387597865;kakobrekla;lool 428414;1387597902;fiat500;lmfao 428415;1387597952;Duffer1;i'm surprised it's on the jd blog, highlighting the tragedy of gambling addiction would drive users away, or make them more disappointed in themselves for staying 428416;1387597982;kakobrekla;its some fans blong isnt it? not official or anyhting 428417;1387597991;kakobrekla;blog* 428418;1387597994;Duffer1;ah 428419;1387598010;kakobrekla;but blong isnt such bad word either, should be used for something 428420;1387598018;mircea_popescu;isn't it the guy;'s gf blogging there ? 428421;1387598061;kakobrekla;dunno 428422;1387598893;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9388 @ 0.00089124 = 8.367 BTC [+] {2} 428423;1387599381;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00088964 = 4.5372 BTC [-] 428424;1387599496;kakobrekla;lolk 428425;1387599622;BingoBoingo;It's just a matter of figuring out what sort of format a blong is. 428426;1387599685;BingoBoingo;If a blong is even a web venture. 428427;1387599747;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.0008926 = 4.463 BTC [+] 428428;1387599834;mircea_popescu;and can you short the blong 428429;1387599895;kakobrekla;yeah but dont do it, dont short btc or blong. 428430;1387599930;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1350 @ 0.00088808 = 1.1989 BTC [-] {2} 428431;1387599939;BingoBoingo;blong being a away to say long on btc could make the20year and his real estate venture shorting blong 428432;1387599941;mircea_popescu;hello sir. i am with fortune a business company of the united states and would like to short blong 428433;1387600139;kakobrekla;and so the power puff, errr, new word was born. 428434;1387600175;KRS1;schlong 428435;1387600696;Duffer1;Earthcoin just launched if anyone here is interested in LTC clones that have zero innovation 428436;1387600706;fiat500;lmfao 428437;1387600738;fiat500;what's so earthy about it 428438;1387600744;CuWireBeard;How many Earthcoins do I need for a tree to be planted in my name on Earth Day? 428439;1387600868;Duffer1;they made the block reward like a 12 month long sin wave because.. who knows 428440;1387600925;Duffer1;the first 6 months it will peak at 12k block reward then fall to 8k block reward during the following 6 months 428441;1387601127;Duffer1;seems like they're trying to increase volatility to get better margins as they fleece suckers on cryptsy 428442;1387601699;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20100 @ 0.00088088 = 17.7057 BTC [-] {2} 428443;1387601896;mircea_popescu;there's dog-coin, earth-coin and everything-else coin so far, but no girlfriend-coin 428444;1387601902;mircea_popescu;telling. 428445;1387601943;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5000 @ 0.00012 = 0.6 BTC [+] 428446;1387601996;Duffer1;i wonder why sex coin didn't survive... 428447;1387602009;Duffer1;:P 428448;1387602034;Duffer1;howcome there isn't a MP coin? 428449;1387602084;Duffer1;pay 20btc to mine it 428450;1387602105;Duffer1;1btc per addres 428451;1387602107;Duffer1;s 428452;1387602294;Duffer1;block reward negotiable 428453;1387602332;fiat500;LOL 428454;1387602346;fiat500;now thats innovation 428455;1387602377;fiat500;market-based block reward 428456;1387602600;mircea_popescu;;lol 428457;1387603083;asciilifeform;better marscoin. 428458;1387603113;asciilifeform;betcha the first orbiting blockchain gizmo will be hooked to an altchain 428459;1387603136;asciilifeform;not for any good reason, but to promote the otherwise forgettable crackpot alt which it would otherwise be 428460;1387605299;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.0008817 = 10.3159 BTC [+] {2} 428461;1387606163;mircea_popescu;it's a bet 428462;1387606564;theskyisfalling;its a me 428463;1387606784;fiat500;http://falkvinge.net/2011/05/29/why-im-putting-all-my-savings-into-bitcoin/ 428464;1387606796;fiat500;did he end up selling at some point or is he still all in? anyone know? 428465;1387606864;fiat500;nvm, seems like a moron 428466;1387607137;mircea_popescu;he gets the occasional good point 428467;1387607189;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00088259 = 7.6785 BTC [+] 428468;1387607612;Duffer1;http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-12-20/european-union-loses-aaa-credit-rating-at-s-p-on-weaker-cohesion.html 428469;1387607613;ozbot;European Union Stripped of AAA Credit Rating at S&P - Bloomberg 428470;1387608436;mircea_popescu;no reason it should have had it 428471;1387608441;mircea_popescu;no reason the us should have aa either 428472;1387608447;mircea_popescu;c is what it is. 428473;1387608561;Duffer1;star citizen needs to be a real thing right now that i can play 428474;1387609080;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21929 @ 0.00088192 = 19.3396 BTC [-] {3} 428475;1387609432;theskyisfalling;eve wannabe 428476;1387609610;Duffer1;have you seen the hanger footage on youtube? 428477;1387609627;Duffer1;hangar even 428478;1387609963;fiat500;"The downgrade “changes nothing,” President Francois Hollande of France, Europe’s second-largest economy, told reporters today after a summit of European leaders in Brussels." 428479;1387609997;fiat500;what is the point of having a rating at all? 428480;1387610033;Duffer1;lower borrower rates 428481;1387610095;fiat500;i mean given the notion that a downgrade 'changes nothing' - seems like he should be arguing it was undeserved, not that it is meaningless 428482;1387610147;Duffer1;oh ya politicians say things but all i hear is bbzzzzzzzz 428483;1387610156;Duffer1;it's weird 428484;1387610178;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.00087815 = 9.8353 BTC [-] 428485;1387610670;benkay;BingoBoingo: why some insane algol derivative and not a lisp? 428486;1387610785;BingoBoingo;benkay: I'm trying to put myself in a position to appreciate the better things when I have the background to leverage them. 428487;1387610930;benkay;hm 428488;1387610979;benkay;you wouldn't go learn to do things the wrong way just to hear your sensei tell you to pour out two years of practice, would you? 428489;1387611154;benkay;BingoBoingo: i strongly recommend you not fill your cup with those idiocies. there is a strong push towards things that are easy, but taking the easy route now sets you up for a whole shitton of unnecessary unlearning later. 428490;1387611190;benkay;obviously, i don't know anything about anything and my 'advice' on programming matters should be regarded as highly suspect 428491;1387611218;BingoBoingo;Well, anything is better than Java 428492;1387611263;benkay;but i gather that you don't actually need to be scripting python, and the cleaner the break with whatever your past is (Java especially), the easier of a time you're going to have wrapping your head around the functional approach. 428493;1387611372;benkay;once you get into the class-based systems (which Python libraries inevitably drive you to), Python is just Java lacking a few particular flakes of shit. 428494;1387611440;BingoBoingo;Probably. 428495;1387611465;fiat500;benkay: sounds like a condemnation of OO/imperative programming in general 428496;1387611474;benkay;it has its place 428497;1387611495;benkay;in large corporations where they hire labor. 428498;1387611526;fiat500;fp is not the most elegant/efficient way to express solutions to every problem 428499;1387611554;fiat500;i think you are conflating the 'where' with the 'why' 428500;1387611590;benkay;do go on 428501;1387611637;fiat500;which of my two statements do you find issue with? 428502;1387611694;benkay;neither. i don't quite understand your comment about wheres and whys, tho. 428503;1387611698;benkay;but! 428504;1387611740;benkay;this is a highly contextual conversation between BingoBoingo and myself, albeit in a public domain. 428505;1387611765;fiat500;hm, sorry, guess i was missing context then 428506;1387611795;fiat500;my point was that the size of the corporation (or really more generally, where a problem is being solved) does not have a bearing on the type of problem being solved 428507;1387611812;fiat500;in the context of fp vs imperative 428508;1387611844;benkay;sounds like you're assuming BigCorp can select even an approximately appropriate tool for a job. 428509;1387611859;fiat500;how do you define bigcorp? 428510;1387611873;benkay;heh 428511;1387611878;fiat500;are we excluding tech companies from this? 428512;1387611890;benkay;has mgmt that thinks that sw dev teams of greater than 10 members are an acceptable idea. 428513;1387611906;benkay;doesn't understand nonlinear comms overhead. 428514;1387611933;BingoBoingo;Well, generally generic BigCorp wants fungible workers, and they generally use blub as a tool to keep workers fungible. 428515;1387611936;fiat500;fb fits that description, and fb is really good at using say - haskell - as the right tool for some of their internal analytics 428516;1387611975;benkay;ya and their deploy strategy is also "compile php to c and torrent it around the internal network" 428517;1387611983;benkay;so you tell me if that's a mature dev environment. 428518;1387612025;benkay;there's a whole stack of shit that bothers me about OOP 428519;1387612056;benkay;first, OOP is designed to get people hammering keyboards as quickly as possible, which is orthogonal to teaching humans how computers actually work. 428520;1387612063;benkay;the pathological case being the .NET Mort. 428521;1387612072;fiat500;i think my point is, while fb is rather large, has sw dev teams > 10 members, and uses OOP for many things, they also use fp where it makes sense 428522;1387612102;benkay;yeah i just can't accept FB as an example of a mature and sustained development environment delivering business value. 428523;1387612133;benkay;of course they have dev teams > 10 428524;1387612144;BingoBoingo;I don't think .NET and OOP are equivalently problematic. OOP can be useful in cases. Somethings want to be objects. I mean CLOS is a thing. The problem is what happens once you make an object. 428525;1387612175;benkay;ya well, brain surgery lasers are great in the hands of brain surgeons 428526;1387612202;benkay;problem is everyone wants to make tools that make computing 'simpler' 'easier' 'more understandable' 428527;1387612233;benkay;but all of these layers of abstraction get in between problems and people who can fix them. 428528;1387612235;fiat500;if you think of objects as just structs with function pointers, its hard to argue that an object is an inappropriate way to represent state in a stateful system 428529;1387612246;benkay;mrh 428530;1387612252;benkay;i lean towards the monadic approach these days. 428531;1387612262;benkay;but what about the insane method inheritance? 428532;1387612277;benkay;how do I teach someone what the ever loving fuck is going on in a Django project? 428533;1387612324;benkay;a string has a .split method? give me a break! 428534;1387612339;benkay;do forgive me 428535;1387612368;benkay;i'm fresh out of a code retreat with some humans who really grok oop and yet failed to put together class hierarchies to implement the game of life in 45 minutes. 428536;1387612378;fiat500;not to defend django or python, but a split method is useful enough that it should probably exist somewhere - where would you put it? 428537;1387612401;benkay;in a library of functions 428538;1387612408;benkay;that operate on a wide variety of data structures 428539;1387612434;fiat500;ok, i see what you're getting at here 428540;1387612477;benkay;i come at this all from a weird non cs perspective, so i'm sure a lot of the conclusions that i've come to are completely bogus. 428541;1387612487;fiat500;the problem arises where a newer, more efficient implementation is found at some point, and the internal structure of the string must change (consider it getting generalized to a rope, as an extreme and ridiculous example) 428542;1387612496;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13593 @ 0.00087945 = 11.9544 BTC [+] {2} 428543;1387612497;BingoBoingo;Eh, At least we aren't debating SQL 428544;1387612504;benkay;in my world, functions take arguments and return values. 428545;1387612507;fiat500;now this external library of functions must become aware of this change and handle it 428546;1387612525;benkay;hopefully ones fundamental data structures aren't evolving too quickly 428547;1387612534;fiat500;well, concrete example 428548;1387612551;fiat500;NSDictionary in the land of cocoa, changes its internal structure based on its contents 428549;1387612563;benkay;oh god 428550;1387612574;fiat500;it switches to a more optimal data structure when its size gets large enough 428551;1387612632;benkay;this is a pretty common implementation of data structures, right? 428552;1387612638;fiat500;http://ridiculousfish.com/blog/posts/array.html 428553;1387612639;ozbot;Array 428554;1387612726;benkay;yeah that's great 428555;1387612747;fiat500;not saying its great, just a choice made by the designers, i think it adds a nice variety to the mix 428556;1387612764;benkay;well to return to the topic of my rant 428557;1387612789;benkay;when someone sits down to hammer out some OOP, they look at the code surrounding what they need to write, and they copy out stuff that looks like what they've seen and it just works. 428558;1387612793;BingoBoingo;You know what language really makes sense. TeX 428559;1387612810;benkay;the OOP dream of the nineties is alive in Py-thon...Py-thon! 428560;1387612819;fiat500;hahahaha 428561;1387612869;benkay;but to really understand what's happening they need to understand the class that they're subclassing, what the hell subclassing is, how instances of classes get new-ed the fuck up, all this absurd cognitive overhead 428562;1387612890;fiat500;versus writing everything from scratch? 428563;1387612939;fiat500;i think the most egregious example of this is c++, not python 428564;1387612959;benkay;nah 428565;1387612969;benkay;vs understanding that functions take input arguments and return values 428566;1387612992;fiat500;the same values? 428567;1387613011;BingoBoingo;Eh, C++ is what the first programming classes I'd taken were conducted in. 428568;1387613029;benkay;given the same inputs you'd have a tough time convincing me there's a good reason not to... 428569;1387613037;fiat500;BingoBoingo: i mean in the sense that many people who are using c++ don't really understand wtf is going on behind the scenes 428570;1387613040;BingoBoingo;Before that though I banged away in motorola 68k assembler on the TI-89 and mac 428571;1387613049;fiat500;benkay: thats a great way to solve some problems, not really great for stateful systems 428572;1387613078;BingoBoingo;fiat500: Why shouldn't you be ale to change the system as it runs? 428573;1387613104;benkay;fiat500: there are exceptions. 428574;1387613115;fiat500;i dont think i said you shouldnt be able to... im saying you should 428575;1387613118;benkay;fiat500: OOP leads the programmer to encapsulate state in the most insane places possible. 428576;1387613128;benkay;the b 428577;1387613149;fiat500;benkay: yeah, not gonna dispute this, i see it all the time, and not just with novices 428578;1387613167;benkay;all fp does is urge you at a language level to do something sane with your state. 428579;1387613170;benkay;it's not a panacea 428580;1387613180;benkay;panacea to the BigCorp software dev problem 428581;1387613193;benkay;probably never will be, relationship of comms overhead to number of devs on team being what it is. 428582;1387613198;fiat500;perhaps instead of bigcorp you mean "unsophisticated" 428583;1387613203;fiat500;i would agree with that 428584;1387613206;benkay;eh 428585;1387613208;benkay;it's a metaphor 428586;1387613220;benkay;exercise for the reader and all that 428587;1387613225;fiat500;haha 428588;1387613258;benkay;consider it a shit test for dev ability 428589;1387613271;benkay;"can you fp? okay. you've got 3 months to demonstrate competence." 428590;1387613287;fiat500;sounds generous 428591;1387613339;benkay;it's typically obvious after 2 weeks when they can't. 428592;1387613388;benkay;point being: oop has layers and layers of absurd needless complexity. 428593;1387613418;benkay;there are lisps for every platform these days 428594;1387613432;benkay;but BingoBoingo wouldn't you like your platform to support true parallelized operation eh eh eh? 428595;1387613471;BingoBoingo;benkay: I would. Maybe. 428596;1387613540;BingoBoingo;I'd settle for does what it is told, 428597;1387613699;benkay;https://pypi.python.org/pypi/fuckit 428598;1387613700;ozbot;fuckit 1.0.0 : Python Package Index 428599;1387613702;BingoBoingo;I wouldn't mind a Macintosh SE/30 with less magic smoke than the last one produced. 428600;1387613722;benkay;next computer i get excited about comes from the asciilifeform labs 428601;1387613758;BingoBoingo;Probably the same here 428602;1387613767;benkay;next computer my company actually buys me is a well-designed thing whose default ctags implementation doesn't recurse 428603;1387613779;benkay;good night sir 428604;1387614351;fiat500;"This module is like violence: if it doesn't work, you just need more of it." 428605;1387614353;fiat500;beautiful 428606;1387614753;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.2928 = 0.5856 BTC [-] 428607;1387615668;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11535 @ 0.00088004 = 10.1513 BTC [+] {2} 428608;1387615790;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.05 = 1 BTC [+] 428609;1387616400;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 114 @ 0.002904 = 0.3311 BTC [-] 428610;1387618779;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19150 @ 0.00087974 = 16.847 BTC [-] {2} 428611;1387619270;BingoBoingo;How many accounts are posting on behalf of NeoBee nao? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=182236 428612;1387619572;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00088148 = 4.4074 BTC [+] 428613;1387620060;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00088148 = 3.9667 BTC [+] 428614;1387620185;Apocalyptic;.d 428615;1387620185;ozbot;1180923195.25803 | Next Diff in 2009 blocks | Estimated Change: -15.8654% in 16d 3h 52m 29s 428616;1387620670;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 727 @ 0.00088182 = 0.6411 BTC [+] {2} 428617;1387620731;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20573 @ 0.00088316 = 18.1693 BTC [+] {3} 428618;1387621585;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11775 @ 0.00088324 = 10.4002 BTC [+] 428619;1387621705;BingoBoingo;;;asks 1250 428620;1387621707;gribble;There are currently 22017.358 bitcoins offered at or under 1250.0 USD, worth 20955828.2806 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0979 seconds 428621;1387624868;jurov;Please note that while Danny enjoys interacting with the forum and answering questions when he can, he is still the CEO of the company, and thus is quite busy most of the time. 428622;1387624932;jurov;busy indeed.. extracting bitcoins from weexchange 428623;1387625007;jurov;Hello everyone, this account will be used for Neo investor-related updates and communications going forward, rather than the ThickAsThieves one. 428624;1387625021;jurov;ha. 428625;1387625046;jurov;Please whitelist this account for business use. I will follow up with a post from my main account, ThickAsThieves. 428626;1387625054;jurov;so it's TAT 428627;1387625794;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18806 @ 0.00087778 = 16.5075 BTC [-] {2} 428628;1387626770;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20300 @ 0.00087722 = 17.8076 BTC [-] {2} 428629;1387626831;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00088324 = 8.5674 BTC [+] 428630;1387626840;bevardis1;Hey guys. I want to buy some bitcoins. How fast is it possible to do it with a reasonable price (not more than 20% increase, hopefully <10%)? I have paypal, credit card, etc. I'm european. Looking for advice here, not offers :) 428631;1387627441;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00088324 = 3.7096 BTC [+] 428632;1387627563;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.002905 = 0.2905 BTC [+] 428633;1387627685;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 139 @ 0.001 = 0.139 BTC 428634;1387628539;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.292775 = 1.1711 BTC [-] {2} 428635;1387628783;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.29289999 = 1.1716 BTC [+] 428636;1387629881;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 373 @ 0.0026792 = 0.9993 BTC [-] {2} 428637;1387629965;pankkake;Bernankoin v1.2 released, dual QE scheduled for january, affirmative action later 428638;1387630125;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.28000002 BTC [-] 428639;1387630369;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.27880201 = 1.394 BTC [-] {3} 428640;1387631332;nubbins`;http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/poltergeist-behaviour-haunts-st-john-s-family-1.2471911 428641;1387631332;ozbot;Poltergeist behaviour haunts St. John's family - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News 428642;1387631344;nubbins`;brutally poor standard of journalism haunts st. john's news team 428643;1387631345;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10250 @ 0.00087911 = 9.0109 BTC [-] 428644;1387632504;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.05 = 0.15 BTC [+] 428645;1387632605;ThickAsThieves;This is more of a haunting than a poltergeist behavior which tends to be more violent. My wife and I have had many strange unexplained experiences happen also. I am no so keen on mediums though. There are only a few in the world that are actually any good at being specific or accurate. 428646;1387632629;ThickAsThieves;(commenter) 428647;1387632963;ThickAsThieves;;;bcstats 428648;1387632966;gribble;Current Blocks: 276215 | Current Difficulty: 1.1809231952580261E9 | Next Difficulty At Block: 278207 | Next Difficulty In: 1992 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 6 days, 0 hours, 28 minutes, and 14 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 1097402926.23 | Estimated Percent Change: -7.07246 428649;1387632996;ThickAsThieves;the bet should be closed 428650;1387633000;ThickAsThieves;http://bitbet.us/bet/519/btc-network-difficulty-to-top-1b-before-2014/ 428651;1387633002;ozbot;BitBet - BTC network difficulty to top 1B before 2014 428652;1387633236;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00088177 = 1.9399 BTC [+] 428653;1387633358;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7129 @ 0.00088177 = 6.2861 BTC [+] 428654;1387633724;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5000 @ 0.00012 = 0.6 BTC [+] 428655;1387633846;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00088136 = 8.1085 BTC [-] {2} 428656;1387634029;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.05 = 0.15 BTC [+] 428657;1387635822;mircea_popescu;.d 428658;1387635823;ozbot;1180923195.25803 | Next Diff in 1988 blocks | Estimated Change: -18.5612% in 16d 8h 45m 5s 428659;1387635827;mircea_popescu;ha 428660;1387635981;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 63 @ 0.00283413 = 0.1786 BTC [+] {5} 428661;1387636087;nubbins`;nice 428662;1387636255;knotwork;wow yeah 428663;1387636286;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9250 @ 0.00088251 = 8.1632 BTC [+] {2} 428664;1387636760;mircea_popescu;http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/36/Federal_Debt_Held_by_the_Public_1790-2013.png << the picture of unsustainable. 428665;1387636835;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15050 @ 0.00088294 = 13.2882 BTC [+] {2} 428666;1387637117;nubbins`;world war 3 will be different, in that it won't be called world war 3 428667;1387637133;mircea_popescu;heh. 428668;1387637506;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG.F2] 1 @ 0.6 BTC [+] 428669;1387637628;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.29288977 = 1.4644 BTC [+] {2} 428670;1387638238;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13909 @ 0.00088324 = 12.285 BTC [+] 428671;1387638299;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7591 @ 0.0008834 = 6.7059 BTC [+] 428672;1387640335;pankkake;got a "coinchat is back" mail. I thought that was TradeFortress' thing? 428673;1387640459;ThickAsThieves;sounds right 428674;1387640462;ThickAsThieves;https://blockchain.info/pools 428675;1387640463;ozbot;Bitcoin Hashrate Distribution - Blockchain.info 428676;1387640495;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9273 @ 0.00087754 = 8.1374 BTC [-] {2} 428677;1387640495;ThickAsThieves;BTCG and Ghash have big slices 428678;1387640541;pankkake;17% unknown :o 428679;1387640550;ThickAsThieves;wonder if governments will regulate mining pools one day 428680;1387640577;pankkake;they have every incentive to do so… but pools are also easy to hide 428681;1387640584;pankkake;perhaps at the cost of some latency 428682;1387640594;ThickAsThieves;the more hidden they are the less popular they are 428683;1387640613;asciilifeform;by 'regulate,' perhaps you mean pwn? 428684;1387640625;asciilifeform;how many miners are using authentication of any sort whatsoever 428685;1387640645;pankkake;regulation is "drowning by bureaucracy" 428686;1387640655;asciilifeform;you might already be mining for the reich 428687;1387640660;asciilifeform;without knowing it. 428688;1387640675;pankkake;hmm, very easy to MITM miners 428689;1387640684;ThickAsThieves;like limit pools to 10%, tax them 428690;1387640686;ThickAsThieves;etc 428691;1387640703;asciilifeform;and most 'special' of all are the folks who connect to pools... through tor. 428692;1387640715;pankkake;I would think more like forbid "bad" transactions 428693;1387640735;ThickAsThieves;like redlisting etc 428694;1387640745;pankkake;yeah 428695;1387640803;ThickAsThieves;its kinda like forking the chain 428696;1387640813;asciilifeform;ThickAsThieves: much easier would be a crown-imposed altcoin 428697;1387640833;asciilifeform;'trade yer TerrorCoins for ReichCoins! you can even pay tax in them.' 428698;1387640886;ThickAsThieves;i sure love paying tax 428699;1387640891;asciilifeform;pre-mined by your local Department of Plenty, naturally. 428700;1387640952;pankkake;I aim to sell Bernankoin to the USG! 428701;1387640988;pankkake;it's funny that no matter how hard you try to make a bad coin, people go out there to "promote" it 428702;1387641019;ThickAsThieves;someone should make an altcoin building program 428703;1387641029;ThickAsThieves;choose your settings 428704;1387641051;pankkake;yeah, that's should be my next project 428705;1387641053;ThickAsThieves;basically make it so any joe can make an altcoin 428706;1387641098;pankkake;like the (fake) RnB generator: http://pixdaus.com/files/items/pics/2/86/30286_c070b827bd67eecdc929eea629c45195_large.jpg 428707;1387641142;ThickAsThieves;you could even host pools 428708;1387641151;ThickAsThieves;make it a whole SaaS 428709;1387641237;pankkake;quite a lot of work, but sure should pay in the long run 428710;1387641237;ThickAsThieves;http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2013/12/20/target-credit-cards-are-selling-for-20-100-each/ 428711;1387641238;ozbot;Stolen Target Credit Cards Are Selling For $20 - $100 Each - Forbes 428712;1387641283;ThickAsThieves;Bitcoin, as well as other irreversible and semi-anonymous ways of sending money including Litecoin, WebMoney, PerfectMoney, and traditional wire transfers. 428713;1387641289;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5275 @ 0.00087708 = 4.6266 BTC [-] 428714;1387641291;ThickAsThieves;They can be bought using, of course, Bitcoin, as well as other irreversible and semi-anonymous ways of sending money including Litecoin 428715;1387641333;ThickAsThieves;(Amusingly, one of my normal Bitcoin sources emailed me to say, “ If Target accepted Bitcoins, 40 million individuals would have been protected.” 428716;1387641376;ThickAsThieves;"The only good news: Krebs reports that the Target thieves did not get the cards CVV2 — that 3 or 4 digit security number printed on back of cards — which means they can’t do any online shopping with the cards. " 428717;1387641380;ThickAsThieves;thats not true at all 428718;1387641386;pankkake;credit cards is the worst security ever 428719;1387641397;pankkake;I don't even understand how something so bad can exist 428720;1387641422;mircea_popescu;because they were made before the internet forced tech up everyone's throat, by people who believe in legal solutions. 428721;1387641468;ThickAsThieves;Target is 10% off this weekend too 428722;1387641488;ThickAsThieves;their stock is up however 428723;1387641490;mircea_popescu;and any government that asserts any sort of infringement on teh republic of bitcoin's sovereignity, such as by purporting to "tax" bitcoins or to "regulate" mining etc is thereby declaring war, and will feel the full wrath and might of said republic. 428724;1387641523;ThickAsThieves;would you say the same about the internet? 428725;1387641535;mircea_popescu;no, inasmuch as the internet is not a republic. 428726;1387641558;mircea_popescu;what's the internet gonna do, blog about you ? 428727;1387641586;ThickAsThieves;block mining? 428728;1387641603;mircea_popescu;hm ? 428729;1387641628;ThickAsThieves;what if gov uses some roundabout means of internet control to impede bitcoin 428730;1387641654;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12016 @ 0.00087883 = 10.56 BTC [+] {2} 428731;1387641654;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.2929 = 1.4645 BTC [+] 428732;1387641685;mircea_popescu;well how would i know ? 428733;1387641712;mircea_popescu;likely bitcoin will use some roundabout means of internet control to impede nonsense. 428734;1387641716;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2929 BTC [+] 428735;1387641733;ThickAsThieves;hmm 428736;1387641746;ThickAsThieves;do you think bitcoin is dependent on the web? 428737;1387641776;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11300 @ 0.00088045 = 9.9491 BTC [+] 428738;1387641776;ThickAsThieves;if so, should not the republic defend it? 428739;1387641786;ThickAsThieves;an attack on my friend 428740;1387641820;mod6;bitcoin doesn't need the internet: http://trilema.com/2012/the-politics-of-bitcoin/ 428741;1387641834;mircea_popescu;bitcoin is not dependent on the web in any way. 428742;1387641854;mircea_popescu;what exactly is the relation of bitcoin to the web, mpoe-pr ? 428743;1387641972;ThickAsThieves;you think bitcoin would stay healthy without it the net? 428744;1387642007;mod6;bitcoin will find a way. if anything, i think we'd build our own communications network if we needed to. 428745;1387642040;ThickAsThieves;well Gavin is on that satellite project right 428746;1387642156;mod6;paul revere style light signals or even smoke signals would work. 428747;1387642174;knotwork;web and net are different, web is just another thing that uses the net as transport, much like bitcoin is 428748;1387642200;ThickAsThieves;assume i mean the network we all use to communicate 428749;1387642204;knotwork;bitcoin does depend on having some kind of net though if only sneakers-and-paper-wallets net 428750;1387642264;ThickAsThieves;how does mining happen? tx takes mos to confirm? 428751;1387642270;knotwork;print out a buy order GPG message to mpoe-pr and snailmail it to a penpal in Romania who drops it in a dead-drop for MPOE-spy to pick up 428752;1387642280;knotwork;mining is trickier yeah 428753;1387642380;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves how is bitcoin related to the web, sweriously 428754;1387642395;knotwork;run your local fork via sneakernet all year, then put it on santa's plate with his cookies and milk so when he zooms around the world faster than light he picks them all up, maybe even has a copier in his sleigh to copy it so he puts in your stocking all the chaisn from all the kids he visited before you 428755;1387642417;knotwork;so we'd have one year to two year long forks in progress constantly 428756;1387642426;knotwork;maybe less if easter bunny and tooth fairy help him 428757;1387642485;knotwork;or we could use acoustic modems over long distance phone lines but that is so much less elegant, albeit shorter forks. UUCP to the rescue, whee! 428758;1387642528;knotwork;subscribe to an alt.blockchains.bitcoin newsgroup, presto 428759;1387642540;mircea_popescu;probably a sort of point to point over wireless is already happening in the major cities 428760;1387642547;mircea_popescu;just too much spare wireless capacity available. 428761;1387642571;knotwork;ho yeah sure go ahead put Santa out of a job already, fine. :) 428762;1387642581;mircea_popescu;lol 428763;1387642610;knotwork;you can do UUCP over ham radio though sure 428764;1387642642;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves part of the problem is perhaps that you're confusing the internet and the web 428765;1387642654;mircea_popescu;irc for instance is not on the web 428766;1387642660;knotwork;The north pole is probably a big aerial for christmas ham radio anyway as well as a faster than light communicator so Santa can stay in touch with the Ms. wheil delivering prezzies. 428767;1387642682;mircea_popescu;it's on 194/6667 428768;1387642813;asciilifeform;one thing i occasionally try to convince people off is that: the time to invent the parachute is before, rather than after, being thrown out of the plane 428769;1387642819;asciilifeform;bring back fidonet now. 428770;1387642873;mircea_popescu;i never knew it went away 428771;1387642918;knotwork;yeah somewhere between thrown in the deep end to learn to swim and thrown out of an airplane to incentivise inventing a parachute there is a slope of some slipperiness or lack of slipperiness or nasty friction or razor blades or something 428772;1387642935;knotwork;a gulf or divide maybe 428773;1387642955;mircea_popescu;anyway, the parachute argument eschews the infinity problem. 428774;1387642965;mircea_popescu;after you're done throwing an infinite number of people out of the airplane 428775;1387642973;mircea_popescu;there's an infinite number of people still using the airplane. 428776;1387642997;asciilifeform;flying Hilbert Hotel? 428777;1387643020;mircea_popescu;nobody can win the war on concepts, be they purely theoretical like heliocentrism or quite sordid like psychoactives, 428778;1387643037;knotwork;if there are an infinate number of people in the airplane then relativity maybe should indicate there must also be an infinite number of moments of time? 428779;1387643037;mircea_popescu;and the airplane throwing thing is a fascinating exercise in impotence. 428780;1387643092;knotwork;if so maybe we can later after inventing parachute put in an infinite number of parachutes, and even back when we built the first infinite-capacity airplane it would have all those parachutes that will eventually be invented? 428781;1387643240;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10219 @ 0.00087684 = 8.9604 BTC [-] {3} 428782;1387643423;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18900 @ 0.00088138 = 16.6581 BTC [+] {2} 428783;1387643789;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.02102 = 0.2102 BTC [+] {4} 428784;1387643972;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9341 @ 0.0008827 = 8.2453 BTC [+] {2} 428785;1387644033;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11409 @ 0.00088425 = 10.0884 BTC [+] {2} 428786;1387644048;the20year;anyone know offhand what daily volume is at havelock? 428787;1387644338;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8472 @ 0.00088446 = 7.4931 BTC [+] 428788;1387644399;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5728 @ 0.00088463 = 5.0672 BTC [+] 428789;1387645253;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.048801 = 0.1952 BTC [-] 428790;1387645497;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.002905 = 0.2905 BTC [+] 428791;1387645924;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14600 @ 0.00088463 = 12.9156 BTC [+] {2} 428792;1387646107;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2084 @ 0.00012 = 0.2501 BTC [+] 428793;1387646120;zach_;hey i have a question for a mod or someone from bitbet 428794;1387646140;zach_;does bitbet work with people sending funds from coinbase? 428795;1387646154;nubbins`;i think some guy got burned doing that a while ago 428796;1387646168;nubbins`;coinbase cheaped out on the tx fee, guy missed a bet deadline 428797;1387646213;pankkake;coinbase is known for sending transactions late, too 428798;1387646226;zach_;na i'm asking because i saw on smoeother betting site that coinbase did not work for sending money to them, something about it sending it back to the same address, just like bitbet does, and there being issues with that 428799;1387646231;pankkake;but if you're early enough, why not, just be sure to specify an address manually 428800;1387646256;pankkake;bitbet allows you to have a custom address, it won't necessarily use the sending address 428801;1387646284;zach_;ok, how do i contact someone from bitbet then 428802;1387646349;pankkake;you sent it already? 428803;1387646355;zach_;yup... 428804;1387646376;zach_;not totally sure but i don't think i specified a different address to receive 428805;1387646377;pankkake;I don't think you have a way to prove you were that transaction 428806;1387646393;pankkake;well you can see the out address on the public bet list 428807;1387646610;mircea_popescu;zach_ as long as you control the destination address, you'll be fine. 428808;1387646640;mircea_popescu;if however you send in such a way that your transaction doesn't make it before the bet closes, you're screwed. 428809;1387646644;zach_;if i did not enter an address, it will just get sent back to coinbase correct? does that work are are there problems with that 428810;1387646655;mircea_popescu;this means, not using shitty services that don't add a fee to txs, and not betting late. 428811;1387646674;mircea_popescu;if you did not enter an address then coinbase thanks you for your donation. 428812;1387646703;twizt;lol so many half assed designed services 428813;1387646717;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.002904 = 0.2904 BTC [-] 428814;1387646721;zach_;why would it not just go back to that same coinbase wallet, that is my wallet 428815;1387646747;twizt;zach_: i think that answer depends on how coinbase is designed... 428816;1387646752;twizt;anything we say is mere speculation 428817;1387646763;Jere_Jones;Was the 1B difficulty bet the largest bitbet ever? 428818;1387646766;mircea_popescu;zach_ because it is likely that coinbase uses some sort of minimal security. 428819;1387646787;mircea_popescu;this means that it sweeps its btc into a cold wallet, which also means it will be paying from addresses it controls, 428820;1387646791;zach_;ok so if a bet has not resolved yet is there a way to change the address for it to send payouts 428821;1387646792;mircea_popescu;not from addresses you contrl. 428822;1387646812;mircea_popescu;no, there is no way to change addresses it sends payouts to. otherwise everyone would cash in on everyone else's bets. 428823;1387646813;zach_;i can prove from my coinebase transaction history that the bet in question was sent by me 428824;1387646822;mircea_popescu;Jere_Jones nah, there were > 1k ones 428825;1387646828;mircea_popescu;course, back then btc was arguably less valuable. 428826;1387646846;twizt;zach_: i think their cust serv would be the best suited to answer your question 428827;1387646847;nubbins`;zach_: "prove" in what sense? 428828;1387646853;mircea_popescu;zach_ then you could i suppose pester them to credit it, when it shows up. in general however you should not be doing this. 428829;1387646853;nubbins`;a screenshot isn't proof 428830;1387646862;zach_;no cuz i can show i sent it from my address to the given address it said to place the bet 428831;1387646871;nubbins`;prove to whom? 428832;1387646884;mircea_popescu;does coinbase actually allocate addresses to users, like a sort of wallet ? 428833;1387646886;nubbins`;coinbase or bitbet? 428834;1387646889;mircea_popescu;i thought it was a btc buying service. 428835;1387646914;zach_;well now i know 428836;1387646979;Namworld;Not really. How would you prove you sent that transaction? You can't. A screenshot isn't good enough. I could make a screenshot and edit it 50 times for all amounts and claim all bets as mine. 428837;1387647005;mircea_popescu;Namworld i assumed they allow him to sign with the address ? 428838;1387647041;Namworld;Try showing coinbase the transaction out was sent to bitbet and it came back as a winning bet, if it happens you win. 428839;1387647064;Namworld;Not sure. I don't know how coinbase wallets are designed 428840;1387647071;twizt;^^^ 428841;1387647083;twizt;this isnt coinbase' cust service chat lol 428842;1387647136;mircea_popescu;so the guy can ask. course... always a good idea to ask before rather than after lol 428843;1387647247;nubbins`;http://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/12/21/0041228/reuters-rsa-weakened-encryption-for-10m-from-nsa 428844;1387647248;ozbot;Reuters: RSA Weakened Encryption For $10M From NSA - Slashdot 428845;1387647256;mircea_popescu;yest news nubs 428846;1387647358;nubbins`;;( 428847;1387647625;asciilifeform;http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/2013/12/17/6569b226-6734-11e3-a0b9-249bbb34602c_story.html 428848;1387647626;ozbot;Tech executives to Obama: NSA spying revelations are threatening business - The Washington Post 428849;1387647955;pankkake;https://www.fsf.org/news/gluglug-x60-laptop-now-certified-to-respect-your-freedom 428850;1387647956;ozbot;Gluglug X60 Laptop now certified to Respect Your Freedom — Free Software Foundation — working to 428851;1387648077;mircea_popescu;certified by whom ? 428852;1387648121;nubbins`;FSF 428853;1387648182;mircea_popescu;better than nothing i guess. 428854;1387648186;mircea_popescu;meanwhile, http://trilema.com/2013/definitely-not-any-kind-of-a-more-like-c/ 428855;1387648425;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00088189 = 11.6409 BTC [-] {3} 428856;1387648547;kakobrekla;ok so i cant figure out which box is connected as kakobreklaaa 428857;1387648667;kakobrekla;ill try to reboot the whole house 428858;1387648762;kakobreklaaa;nvm found it! 428859;1387649279;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00088165 = 8.023 BTC [-] 428860;1387649351;mircea_popescu;lmao 428861;1387649918;mircea_popescu;http://bitbet.us/bet/519/btc-network-difficulty-to-top-1b-before-2014/ paid, if anyone was watching excitedly. 428862;1387649922;ozbot;BitBet - BTC network difficulty to top 1B before 2014 428863;1387649934;mircea_popescu;and for all the talk of displeasure, if one compares the 428864;1387649934;mircea_popescu;24-08-13 17:37Yes100`0002.00000000126cP3.77154710 428865;1387649936;mircea_popescu;with the 428866;1387649948;mircea_popescu;18-12-13 14:04Yes5`2462.088341811468A2.16559433 428867;1387649958;mircea_popescu;it seems rather balanced, within reason. 428868;1387649995;mircea_popescu;90ish percent vs 3ish% 428869;1387650987;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36550 @ 0.00088054 = 32.1837 BTC [-] {4} 428870;1387651321;[\];x60s? 428871;1387651321;[\];might as well sell them a 486 428872;1387651321;[\];New 8-cell 5.2aH (5200mAh) battery installed (these are the larger variety, which come with extended battery life) 428873;1387651321;[\];gonna need it 428874;1387651322;[\];gimmicks 428875;1387651963;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 632 @ 0.00087963 = 0.5559 BTC [-] 428876;1387652024;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18888 @ 0.00087736 = 16.5716 BTC [-] {2} 428877;1387652034;mircea_popescu;[\\\] ? 428878;1387652756;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 151 @ 0.00296707 = 0.448 BTC [+] {4} 428879;1387653000;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.29289999 BTC [-] 428880;1387653183;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10004 @ 0.00087667 = 8.7702 BTC [-] {2} 428881;1387654098;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9520 @ 0.00088163 = 8.3931 BTC [+] {2} 428882;1387654464;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7876 @ 0.00088413 = 6.9634 BTC [+] {3} 428883;1387654586;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.05 = 0.75 BTC [+] 428884;1387655440;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 569 @ 0.00290279 = 1.6517 BTC [-] {3} 428885;1387655441;kakobrekla;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=380096.0 428886;1387655443;ozbot;Pi Wallet - Secure your coins now 428887;1387655489;kakobrekla;hm nvm 428888;1387655496;kakobrekla;seems just en expencive rpi 428889;1387655501;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 125 @ 0.00283127 = 0.3539 BTC [-] {4} 428890;1387655653;Duffer1;Scarlett vs Naniwa on now, 14 btc prize 428891;1387655656;Duffer1;http://www.twitch.tv/totalbiscuit 428892;1387655657;ozbot;Totalbiscuit - Twitch 428893;1387655806;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11500 @ 0.00088548 = 10.183 BTC [+] 428894;1387655808;kakobrekla;bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5441.msg3947084#msg3947084 428895;1387655838;kakobrekla;not like he knew the amt of fake euro debt he took upon himself from the start 428896;1387655937;mircea_popescu;lol 428897;1387656025;mircea_popescu;.d 428898;1387656025;ozbot;1180923195.25803 | Next Diff in 1944 blocks | Estimated Change: 8.5864% in 12d 7h 48m 27s 428899;1387656062;mircea_popescu;http://bitbet.us/bet/619/bitcoin-difficulty-at-or-above-2b-before-feb/ << is my math off or does the diff need to go up 30% both periods for this to come out yes ? 428900;1387656064;ozbot;BitBet - Bitcoin difficulty at or above 2B before Feb 2014 428901;1387656172;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 324 @ 0.00088548 = 0.2869 BTC [+] 428902;1387656836;ThickAsThieves;we'll have 3 changes before then right? 428903;1387656868;mircea_popescu;hm. i guess it's actually 41 days 428904;1387656872;mircea_popescu;so it could be 3 changes yes 428905;1387656889;mircea_popescu;right on the cusp 428906;1387656904;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12094 @ 0.0008841 = 10.6923 BTC [-] {2} 428907;1387656918;mircea_popescu;these crazy fucking bets. 428908;1387656922;ThickAsThieves;i think itll be just like this time 428909;1387656926;mircea_popescu;i still don't know how they manage to be so well picked ffs. 428910;1387656937;ThickAsThieves;seem absurd now, likely later, and obvious the week before 428911;1387656942;mircea_popescu;could be yeah 428912;1387656976;ThickAsThieves;I have a bet on Yes 428913;1387656994;mircea_popescu;allow me to rehash the usual arguments : this bet calls for a 50% increase in deployed hash power within a month. 428914;1387657001;mircea_popescu;this means a good few mwh 428915;1387657011;ThickAsThieves;3PH was added this period 428916;1387657013;Duffer1;banking on bfl delivering their monarchs tat? :P 428917;1387657015;ThickAsThieves;why not 4 more? 428918;1387657032;mircea_popescu;welll.... 428919;1387657060;ThickAsThieves;cointerra delivering too right? 428920;1387657068;mircea_popescu;if you went to the us army and said "you have to increase your firepower by 50%. you have one month. you can't get a bank loan for this" 428921;1387657070;ThickAsThieves;and ghash taking over the world 428922;1387657073;mircea_popescu;then it'd be a much safer bet. 428923;1387657076;Duffer1;and hashfast too i suppose 428924;1387657099;ThickAsThieves;mp you act like they need to decide in the present to deply PHs 428925;1387657105;ThickAsThieves;maybe they decided 2mos ago 428926;1387657113;ThickAsThieves;deploy 428927;1387657115;mircea_popescu;this is a point. 428928;1387657144;mircea_popescu;what's a ph cost by now, like 5mn ? 428929;1387657156;ThickAsThieves;good question 428930;1387657168;ThickAsThieves;thatll be the currency come spring 428931;1387657173;ThickAsThieves;how many PH you got? 428932;1387657176;mircea_popescu;lol 428933;1387657188;ThickAsThieves;do you even PH? 428934;1387657205;mod6;heheh 428935;1387657207;mircea_popescu;lol 428936;1387657242;mircea_popescu;and the humans got 5 ph and the elves 7 and the dwarves only 3 cause they were midgets 428937;1387657253;mircea_popescu;yet the last ph... 428938;1387657267;ThickAsThieves;luke-jr! 428939;1387657301;mircea_popescu;i wonder if anyone still cpu solo mines 428940;1387657309;mircea_popescu;maybe there's someone in a cave somewhere, never turned it off. 428941;1387657330;ThickAsThieves;a lottery ticket is faster 428942;1387657342;mircea_popescu;maybe it's a girl and she likes it sloo 428943;1387657435;ThickAsThieves;is the girl in the cave or the cave in the girl? 428944;1387657501;ThickAsThieves;facebook sure is getting shitty 428945;1387657509;ThickAsThieves;it's all slow and myspacey now 428946;1387657519;mircea_popescu;pity i can't short it more. 428947;1387657625;ThickAsThieves;http://venturebeat.com/2013/12/21/carmats-groundbreaking-five-year-artificial-heart-gets-its-first-patient-in-france/ 428948;1387657626;ozbot;Carmat's groundbreaking five-year artificial heart gets its first patient in France | VentureBeat | 428949;1387657659;mircea_popescu;o hey 428950;1387657674;ThickAsThieves;"Not only did the company have to create something that minimized the risk of clot formation, but it also had to ensure that the device was repairable and reliable." 428951;1387657698;ThickAsThieves;Hello, can I speak with customer service, my heart has stopped functioning. Please hold. 428952;1387657743;mircea_popescu;i see about $3 per gh. so it'd be 3mn not 5 for a ph 428953;1387657778;mircea_popescu;people spendign 12 mn to buy mining gear in a month ? definitely. 428954;1387657805;mircea_popescu;maybe this is how bitcoin dies, we run out of longints to save the diff. 428955;1387657813;ThickAsThieves;those clean coins will be valuable one day 428956;1387658142;mircea_popescu;http://bitbet.us/bet/27/network-difficulty-under-20-million/ 428957;1387658145;mircea_popescu;the good old days. 428958;1387658146;ozbot;BitBet - Network Difficulty under 20 million. 428959;1387658150;Duffer1;hehe 428960;1387659528;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00088352 = 7.9517 BTC [-] 428961;1387660198;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20800 @ 0.00088077 = 18.32 BTC [-] {2} 428962;1387660256;benkay;those crazy chinese http://www.coindesk.com/chinese-bitcoin-exchange-okcoin-accused-faking-trading-data/ 428963;1387661113;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 402 @ 0.00043098 = 0.1733 BTC [-] {4} 428964;1387662334;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00088072 = 3.611 BTC [-] 428965;1387664077;kakobrekla;hm 428966;1387664102;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2334 @ 0.00088027 = 2.0546 BTC [-] 428967;1387664117;kakobrekla;got a word from inside of bitstamp, mysql server with no replication and once per day local mysql dump 428968;1387664188;Duffer1;no replication? 428969;1387664196;fiat500;such redundancy, much integrity, many backup, so wow 428970;1387664210;benkay;nice 428971;1387664407;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4350 @ 0.00088352 = 3.8433 BTC [+] 428972;1387664468;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 22 @ 0.2929 = 6.4438 BTC [+] 428973;1387665723;benkay;;;ud narpalt 428974;1387666054;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 30 @ 0.05 = 1.5 BTC [+] 428975;1387666664;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00012 = 0.12 BTC [+] 428976;1387666687;jurov;once per day? 428977;1387666786;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] [PAID] 1.79378050 BTC to 9`575 shares, 18734 satoshi per share 428978;1387667287;mikaeldice;This will end well 428979;1387667396;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14650 @ 0.00087974 = 12.8882 BTC [-] {2} 428980;1387667869;mircea_popescu;When asked about their shared Catholic faith, Eszterhas said of Gibson, "In my mind, his Catholicism is a figment of his imagination." 428981;1387668372;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.05 = 0.45 BTC [+] 428982;1387668608;benkay;;;google the many ways mpex 428983;1387668609;gribble;Hometown Heroes: Kelsey McClellan | MPEX Experience: ; Loper OS » A Review of MPEx, the Bitcoin Stock Exchange.: ; Prosoniq MPEX Home Page: 428984;1387668621;benkay;man google hates trilema 428985;1387668784;benkay;$depth S.NSA 428986;1387668785;mpexbot;benkay: S.NSA Bids: ['46213 @ 0.00012', '50000 @ 0.000107', '54387 @ 0.000105', '20000 @ 0.0001', '1000 @ 0.0001'] 428987;1387668786;mpexbot;benkay: Asks: ['7500 @ 0.00014', '10000 @ 0.00015', '9220 @ 0.00016', '35000 @ 0.00017', '50000 @ 0.00021'] 428988;1387668870;mircea_popescu;google got 10mn from nsa. 428989;1387669276;benkay;;;duckduckgo foo 428990;1387669276;gribble;Error: "duckduckgo" is not a valid command. 428991;1387669283;benkay;nanotube's an nsa stooge. 428992;1387669309;asciilifeform;http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1390 428993;1387669309;ozbot;Loper OS » Of Decaying Urbits. 428994;1387669334;jurov;http://imgur.com/a/L8gJF 428995;1387669335;ozbot;A few gifs I have collected for your perusing. - Imgur 428996;1387669470;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16450 @ 0.00088038 = 14.4823 BTC [+] {2} 428997;1387669743;ThickAsThieves;http://chromawallet.com/ 428998;1387669744;ozbot;ChromaWallet 428999;1387669836;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10043 @ 0.00088081 = 8.846 BTC [+] 429000;1387670141;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 6 @ 0.04999999 = 0.3 BTC [+] {2} 429001;1387670263;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25000 @ 0.00088376 = 22.094 BTC [+] {2} 429002;1387670530;DiabloD3;http://imgur.com/gallery/fAHIYIS 429003;1387670641;KRS|Gotyawallet;you guys are holding the wrong coin http://www.reddit.com/r/dogecoin/comments/1tcro2/math_proves_everyone_on_earth_will_be_subscribed/ 429004;1387670742;benkay;such outer reaches of cosmos 429005;1387670748;benkay;real destination infinite 429006;1387670749;KRS|Gotyawallet;many things! 429007;1387671788;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11827 @ 0.0008805 = 10.4137 BTC [-] {2} 429008;1387671957;benkay;$proxies 429009;1387671958;mpexbot;benkay: ["http://mpex.co", "http://mpex.ws", "http://mpex.bz", "http://mpex.coinbr.com", "http://mpex6.coinbr.com"] 429010;1387671971;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.05 = 0.5 BTC [+] 429011;1387671997;jurov;drat, doesnt work 429012;1387672398;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29668 @ 0.00087671 = 26.0102 BTC [-] {4} 429013;1387672536;benkay;seems like none are up 429014;1387672676;jurov;mpex.co is 429015;1387672767;benkay;oh you 429016;1387672862;benkay;http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/1354338910_oh-you-93067263235.jpeg 429017;1387673042;jurov;mpex.coinbr.com fixed 429018;1387673052;jurov;mpex6.coinbr.com is ipv6 only 429019;1387673130;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20670 @ 0.00087615 = 18.11 BTC [-] {2} 429020;1387673144;jurov;looks like i went too creative with the spot instance 429021;1387673191;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11513 @ 0.00087589 = 10.0841 BTC [-] {2} 429022;1387673414;jurov;lol nsa is definitely gobbling up all resources, now $0.02/hr for t1. micro in virginia? 429023;1387673436;jurov;(as opposed to 0.004 in oregon) 429024;1387673580;jurov;btw, now s3 supports post requests, it would be worthwhile to build mpex proxy using s3 only 429025;1387673586;jurov;anyone? 429026;1387673969;mircea_popescu;mebbe 429027;1387674412;benkay;s3 as trade interface 429028;1387674417;benkay;trade interface all the things 429029;1387674960;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.05 = 0.2 BTC [+] 429030;1387674961;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 57 @ 0.00283389 = 0.1615 BTC [+] 429031;1387675082;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23400 @ 0.00087529 = 20.4818 BTC [-] {3} 429032;1387675448;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39200 @ 0.00087818 = 34.4247 BTC [+] 429033;1387675561;benkay;!t m s.mpoe 429034;1387675561;assbot;[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00087445 / 0.00088417 / 0.00091105 (939510 shares, 830.69 BTC), 7D: 0.00087445 / 0.00089949 / 0.00091394 (5991164 shares, 5,389.04 BTC), 30D: 0.0007725 / 0.00087086 / 0.00091394 (13560569 shares, 11,809.38 BTC) 429035;1387675936;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17250 @ 0.00087818 = 15.1486 BTC [+] 429036;1387676119;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48888 @ 0.00087445 = 42.7501 BTC [-] 429037;1387677295;benkay;;;calc ((500 - 400) / 400) - 0.0044804 429038;1387677296;gribble;0.2455196 429039;1387677522;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33200 @ 0.00087423 = 29.0244 BTC [-] {3} 429040;1387679352;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25300 @ 0.00087356 = 22.1011 BTC [-] {3} 429041;1387679503;benkay;;;ticker --market btcavg 429042;1387679504;gribble;BitcoinAverage BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 593.43, Best ask: 596.84, Bid-ask spread: 3.41000, Last trade: 594.23, 24 hour volume: 61377.55, 24 hour low: None, 24 hour high: None, 24 hour vwap: 613.28 429043;1387679718;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36449 @ 0.00087268 = 31.8083 BTC [-] {4} 429044;1387679779;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2651 @ 0.00087125 = 2.3097 BTC [-] 429045;1387679962;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22584 @ 0.00087125 = 19.6763 BTC [-] 429046;1387680535;benkay;;;ticker --market btcavg 429047;1387680535;gribble;BitcoinAverage BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 590.98, Best ask: 594.3, Bid-ask spread: 3.32000, Last trade: 593.02, 24 hour volume: 61055.72, 24 hour low: None, 24 hour high: None, 24 hour vwap: 612.54 429048;1387680598;benkay;davout: what are the delivery venues for X.EUR? 429049;1387680619;benkay;ah, bitcoin-central. nevermind. 429050;1387680694;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC 429051;1387683378;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2360 @ 0.00281965 = 6.6544 BTC [-] {15} 429052;1387683561;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4125 @ 0.00012 = 0.495 BTC [+] 429053;1387684660;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.28601101 BTC [-] 429054;1387684721;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.29484 BTC [+] 429055;1387684781;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.29486 BTC [+] 429056;1387684842;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 27 @ 0.29610147 = 7.9947 BTC [+] {4} 429057;1387685025;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.297 BTC [+] 429058;1387685330;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.297 = 0.594 BTC [+] 429059;1387685879;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 141200 @ 0.00087239 = 123.1815 BTC [+] {2} 429060;1387686428;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4409 @ 0.00087125 = 3.8413 BTC [-] 429061;1387686489;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28600 @ 0.00087103 = 24.9115 BTC [-] 429062;1387686977;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14617 @ 0.0008706 = 12.7256 BTC [-] 429063;1387687709;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2132 @ 0.00087223 = 1.8596 BTC [+] 429064;1387687712;KRS|Gotyawallet;a btc exchange opened in Romania today? cant find anything on it 429065;1387687936;mircea_popescu;not today, days ago. 429066;1387687943;mircea_popescu;tis in teh logs. 429067;1387688258;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 8000 @ 0.00012 = 0.96 BTC [+] 429068;1387688380;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.297 BTC [+] 429069;1387688381;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41729 @ 0.00086864 = 36.2475 BTC [-] {2} 429070;1387688442;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.28702201 BTC [-] 429071;1387688624;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 515 @ 0.001 = 0.515 BTC 429072;1387688929;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21067 @ 0.00087242 = 18.3793 BTC [+] {2} 429073;1387688990;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13683 @ 0.00087376 = 11.9557 BTC [+] 429074;1387689234;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18250 @ 0.00086862 = 15.8523 BTC [-] 429075;1387689387;toffoo;KRS|Gotyawallet this https://www.btcxchange.ro 429076;1387690919;KRS|Gotyawallet;hmm 429077;1387691003;KRS|Gotyawallet;india too it seems 429078;1387691026;KRS|Gotyawallet;Cont nou 429079;1387691044;KRS|Gotyawallet;btcxchange is a nice site 429080;1387692467;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00086864 = 6.9491 BTC [+] 429081;1387695380;Vexual;did i have a moment with truffles? i'm loathe to check 429082;1387695437;Duffer1;i don't think it counts if they don't touch 429083;1387695447;Duffer1;oh wait what are we talking about? 429084;1387695700;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50513 @ 0.00086907 = 43.8993 BTC [+] {4} 429085;1387695835;Vexual;icould consult my inner basho and write a haiku 429086;1387696105;Duffer1;i'd say it was a moment if you're thinking of how to capture it in haiku 429087;1387696371;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14890 @ 0.00086846 = 12.9314 BTC [-] 429088;1387697164;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18550 @ 0.00086467 = 16.0396 BTC [-] 429089;1387697317;Vexual;how are you disabled duffer? 429090;1387697355;Duffer1;it's a few things 429091;1387697374;Duffer1;acute panic disorder 429092;1387697389;Duffer1;severe generalized anxiety disorder 429093;1387697438;Vexual;shit 429094;1387697457;Duffer1;and reactive hypoglycemia that compounds the effects of the above two 429095;1387697567;Vexual;so you just sit around and smoke hooter and everythings cool then? 429096;1387697623;Duffer1;actually weed sets me off instantly 429097;1387697657;Vexual;with the anxiety? 429098;1387697695;Duffer1;ya, it's a guaranteed severe panic attack if i even smell weed 429099;1387697738;Vexual;i think jesus did a wine too 429100;1387697745;Vexual;do you like a drink? 429101;1387697796;Duffer1;same thing with that as well, can't even eat stuff cooked with alcohol 429102;1387697870;Vexual;a soothing pat? 429103;1387697887;Duffer1;phobia creation is a side effect of having severe panic reactions in some situations 429104;1387697915;Duffer1;hehe 429105;1387697942;Duffer1;if i don't have to leave my house for it then ya that's ok :P 429106;1387697949;Vexual;lol 429107;1387697960;Vexual;i hear that 429108;1387698021;Vexual;i thought you might have been legless or somesuch 429109;1387698072;Duffer1;ya people who deliver pizza to me, no idea at all 429110;1387698096;Vexual;legless might be easier a lot of the time i imagine 429111;1387698152;Duffer1;i wouldn't want to find out hehe 429112;1387698167;Duffer1;but ya i do miss college 429113;1387698174;Duffer1;and women 429114;1387698189;Vexual;u seem pretty relexed about it for a guy with anxiety issues 429115;1387698211;Duffer1;that's exactly it 429116;1387698212;Vexual;fuck mano, u didnt get a phobia of women did u? 429117;1387698228;Duffer1;no lol just no opportunity you know? 429118;1387698237;Vexual;yah well thats okay 429119;1387698259;Vexual;my alcoholism does the same 429120;1387698264;Duffer1;but i don't process anxiety or panic like a normal person, so i'm totally fine if my neighbors house is on fire 429121;1387698308;Duffer1;but tell me we need to drive on the highway to get somewhere and i'll freak the fuck out 429122;1387698337;Duffer1;ouch that's a rough one 429123;1387698340;Vexual;i understand, its a hyper version of normal human shit 429124;1387698379;Duffer1;if i panicd like normal people i might not have taken such a massive loss on that labcoin scam, panic sold with everyone else 429125;1387698406;Duffer1;do you AA? 429126;1387698531;KRS|Gotyawallet;o/ 429127;1387698537;Vexual;no i met some hot 18yo lezzos coming out of an aa meeting once and thought about it, but australia is a bit like russia, it's pretty easy to function as an alcoholic 429128;1387698580;Duffer1;there's usually something underlying the addiction and it's almost always depression, functional or not AA can change your life 429129;1387698584;Vexual;15 of em, no blokes 429130;1387698623;Vexual;even in that state, i knew it would only make things worse 429131;1387698666;Duffer1;i'd like very much to be in a room with 15 ladies that have something in common with me :P 429132;1387698701;Vexual;yeah, that was my first thought 429133;1387698881;Duffer1;damn man, try a different meating, easier said than done i know 429134;1387698881;Duffer1;meeting 429135;1387698908;Vexual;well if im not going to the hot lezzo meeting, im not going to any meeting 429136;1387698932;Duffer1;do you have a sponsor? 429137;1387698970;Vexual;no, i drink 429138;1387698980;Duffer1;ah 429139;1387698994;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.297 = 5.94 BTC [+] 429140;1387699022;Duffer1;man i'd be the shittiest sponsor 429141;1387699023;Vexual;you stay home, no problemas 429142;1387699072;Vexual;i don't know if aa even exists in australia outside of innercity lezzo sex parties 429143;1387699072;Duffer1;home is prison, with 24hr internet 429144;1387699108;Vexual;did u hear theres money on the internet now? 429145;1387699121;Duffer1;haahahahah 429146;1387699147;Vexual;yeah buttcoin 429147;1387699156;Duffer1;i heard it's ponzi 429148;1387699170;Duffer1;tulip pyramid scam 429149;1387699252;Vexual;well i heard that, but i also heard that a bunch of people got an arseload a few years ago, now they're minted 429150;1387699271;Vexual;fuckin internet eh? 429151;1387699306;Duffer1;that'll never be popular 429152;1387699351;Vexual;yeah internet money is doomed 429153;1387699372;Duffer1;doesn't even have a central issuing authority 429154;1387699398;Vexual;prolly attract all kinds of weirdos 429155;1387699416;Duffer1;i don't think we can make fun of that one... :P 429156;1387699429;Duffer1;:( hah 429157;1387699434;Vexual;u wait 429158;1387699623;Vexual;when the unwashed masses arrive 429159;1387699633;Vexual;noone can say what will happen 429160;1387699665;Duffer1;i suspect we'll find out in 2014 429161;1387699759;Vexual;well im not in a hurry for apple to take bitcoin off ignore 429162;1387699822;Duffer1;i don't they will until they believe they have a way to control 429163;1387699848;Vexual;well they will have a plan to move from disturb to integrate 429164;1387699909;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 70800 @ 0.00085484 = 60.5227 BTC [-] 429165;1387699950;Duffer1;i don't think* 429166;1387699950;Duffer1;it won't work, but will be amusing to watch them try 429167;1387699970;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.00084872 = 8.4023 BTC [-] 429168;1387700042;Vexual;theyll just be working out how much trust they can save in the processof fucking people 429169;1387700137;Vexual;1.0 in 2014 u think? 429170;1387700163;Duffer1;1.0? 429171;1387700169;Vexual;bitcoin 429172;1387700179;Vexual;le foundation' 429173;1387700186;Duffer1;hehe 429174;1387700209;Duffer1;if that was a bitbet i wouldn't put money on either side 429175;1387700362;Vexual;well for the journalists on the channel, i think 0.9 is being touted as something solid 429176;1387700456;Vexual;one could eat for a month with genius like that 429177;1387700458;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15050 @ 0.00085484 = 12.8653 BTC [+] 429178;1387700491;Vexual;tulip bulbs and onions, payday soup! 429179;1387700507;Duffer1;are you a day trader? 429180;1387700548;Vexual;no, im a poor gambler, with the alcohol and everything 429181;1387700588;Vexual;et ou? 429182;1387700628;Vexual;are you? 429183;1387700646;Duffer1;no 429184;1387700649;Duffer1;well not really 429185;1387700701;Vexual;u play dollars? 429186;1387700701;Duffer1;i speculate with 1 btc 429187;1387700723;Duffer1;flipping ltc on btc-e 429188;1387700736;Duffer1;during huge moves 429189;1387700755;Vexual;oh nice 429190;1387700784;Vexual;i play a little, but im aware of my limitations 429191;1387700806;Duffer1;just-dice? 429192;1387700885;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5150 @ 0.00084872 = 4.3709 BTC [-] 429193;1387700892;Vexual;i have tried it yes 429194;1387700908;Vexual;dogecoin paid for the radeons again 429195;1387700918;Vexual;that was nice 429196;1387700918;Duffer1;o.0 429197;1387700928;Duffer1;lol grats man 429198;1387700939;Duffer1;did you get in on earthcoin? 429199;1387700943;Vexual;no 429200;1387700999;Duffer1;ya it's pretty shocking what people will pay for 429201;1387701013;Vexual;i dont think amd will ver have a week like last week, for the week 429202;1387701046;Duffer1;makes me wish i had amd stock hehe 429203;1387701059;Vexual;:) 429204;1387701068;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17103 @ 0.00084755 = 14.4956 BTC [-] 429205;1387701117;Duffer1;it's like a golden goose just flew into their life 429206;1387701162;Duffer1;i'd be surprised if they aren't designing miner specific cards right now 429207;1387701268;Duffer1;maybe full rigs 429208;1387701298;Vexual;im hoping to buy some of friedcat's march stuff and find somewhere to steal power, i think mining is coming back 429209;1387701321;Vexual;or not, who knows 429210;1387701327;Duffer1;isn't that still just 40nm? 429211;1387701339;Vexual;prolly i dunno 429212;1387701344;Duffer1;ah 429213;1387701359;Vexual;hes pointing at some pretty shit hot power ratios 429214;1387701568;Duffer1;.bait 429215;1387701569;ozbot;http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdtjmknXim1qflq5mo1_1280.jpg 429216;1387701595;Vexual;i think the cubes were the only thing he sold so far that could make money on the real chain huh? 429217;1387701625;Duffer1;oo not sure 429218;1387701684;Vexual;theres always an alt, but it feels wrong 429219;1387701739;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25650 @ 0.00084586 = 21.6963 BTC [-] 429220;1387701747;Vexual;dogecoin sure was a nobrainer tho, people love that shit 429221;1387701779;Vexual;fucked hobos in the altchain 429222;1387701814;Vexual;theylla all die, we only need two 429223;1387701822;Vexual;bc and lc 429224;1387701845;Duffer1;i'd like to have a setup to grind off the next new coin 429225;1387701901;Vexual;dont bother 429226;1387701922;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.28721202 BTC [-] 429227;1387701932;Vexual;your time is better spent doing something else 429228;1387701977;Duffer1;hehe 429229;1387701996;Vexual;noones gonna fuck a cat coin 429230;1387702054;Duffer1;nyancoin 429231;1387702060;Duffer1;makes me want to cry 429232;1387702073;Vexual;even if you slammed that doge all week on new radeons, u might have made $20 on each card 429233;1387702152;Duffer1;oh ya i wouldn't mine any of those crap coins for more than a couple days after launch 429234;1387702184;Vexual;still feels wrong 429235;1387702197;Vexual;ive never had an asic 429236;1387702227;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00084755 = 1.9494 BTC [+] 429237;1387702228;Duffer1;same 429238;1387702245;Vexual;well get that big weapon and mine it 429239;1387702273;Vexual;someones gotta 429240;1387702307;Duffer1;i'd rather own shares in the companies making the hardware 429241;1387702316;Duffer1;except maybe a couple scrypt rigs 429242;1387702320;Vexual;unless youre getting 4 4k panels, then buy all the video cards u like 429243;1387702506;Vexual;difficulty is going to alpha centuri in 2014 429244;1387702537;Duffer1;yep 429245;1387702549;Vexual;and miners keep saying prices drive mining 429246;1387702614;dj_jazzy_jeff_;this fontas pump is absolutely ridiculous 429247;1387702622;dj_jazzy_jeff_;unfortunately holding fiat 429248;1387702625;dj_jazzy_jeff_;totally pissed 429249;1387702629;dj_jazzy_jeff_;just lost a lot of money 429250;1387702635;Vexual;im alergic to twitter, whats the hap? 429251;1387702686;benkay;ridiculous and yet holding flat 429252;1387702688;dj_jazzy_jeff_;no twitter action as far as i know 429253;1387702699;dj_jazzy_jeff_;benkay, bc its gonnna crash man 429254;1387702716;benkay;it always does 429255;1387702719;dj_jazzy_jeff_;i don't ever buy into a pump its just not smart move, alecpap we share the same name 429256;1387702733;benkay;it always crashes 429257;1387702740;benkay;it always to the moon 429258;1387702763;Vexual;as long as you can afofrd an eight ball of crystal youll be fine jeff 429259;1387702807;benkay;fuck bitches, get bitcoin. daytrading's for shitheels who can't promote bitcoin into their wallets by driving back the forces of entropy. 429260;1387702819;Vexual;whaa? 429261;1387702891;dj_jazzy_jeff_;Vexual, lol eight ball of crystal 429262;1387702894;Vexual;did you eat the turkish bread ben10? 429263;1387702912;dj_jazzy_jeff_;benkay ive been trying to day trade.. .done terribly 429264;1387702915;Vexual;yah see jazzy jeff gets it 429265;1387702935;benkay;he will when he does 429266;1387702943;Vexual;thing with day trading jazzy... 429267;1387702971;Vexual;i find someones always better at it 429268;1387703012;Vexual;its all a grand tapestry 429269;1387703059;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4bhKB1E6iY 429270;1387703060;ozbot;Erykah Badu- Back in the day - YouTube 429271;1387703142;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61922 @ 0.0008485 = 52.5408 BTC [+] {2} 429272;1387703213;dj_jazzy_jeff_;vexual, dude srsly once this crashes and I eat this loss. I'm done. just holding. 429273;1387703677;Vexual;u wanna vape meth thats your business 429274;1387703738;benkay;vex: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmZvOhHF85I 429275;1387703743;benkay;just for you baby 429276;1387703743;dj_jazzy_jeff_;finally crashing 429277;1387703751;Vexual;is it waltzing matilda? 429278;1387703753;dj_jazzy_jeff_;fucking douchebag fountas 429279;1387703820;Vexual;thats way better than waltzing matilda ben10 429280;1387703922;Vexual;http://i2.wp.com/weirderweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/the_bee.gif?resize=150%2C150 429281;1387704005;Duffer1;what was the fontas pump jj? 429282;1387704071;Vexual;ask truffles about body scan 429283;1387704077;Vexual;fuck 429284;1387704094;Vexual;wrong window 429285;1387704276;benkay;truffles tell me about body scan 429286;1387704293;benkay;!b4 429287;1387704301;benkay;fuuuuuuuuuuuck. 429288;1387704320;Vexual;learn affect effect 429289;1387704388;monolithik;anyone here bored and want to try trading a colored coin on testnet 429290;1387704435;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCttQ93hlyY 429291;1387704435;ozbot;The Verve Already There - Camden Town Hall 1992 - YouTube 429292;1387704474;Duffer1;sorry mono, sleep time for duffer 429293;1387704911;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00085201 = 7.1569 BTC [+] 429294;1387704930;Vexual;haiku time 429295;1387704938;dj_jazzy_jeff_;monolithik i'll trade 429296;1387705087;Vexual;testnet feel autumnal 429297;1387705122;Vexual;faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaark! 429298;1387705521;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.297 = 1.188 BTC [+] 429299;1387705723;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UWWWbwc-ag 429300;1387705724;ozbot;Les Rythmes Digitales - (Hey You) What's That Sound? - YouTube 429301;1387705826;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15200 @ 0.00085484 = 12.9936 BTC [+] 429302;1387706497;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.28721011 = 0.5744 BTC [-] {2} 429303;1387706680;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24050 @ 0.00085199 = 20.4904 BTC [-] {2} 429304;1387706741;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 48 @ 0.02258957 = 1.0843 BTC [+] {4} 429305;1387708144;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21700 @ 0.00085194 = 18.4871 BTC [-] {2} 429306;1387709852;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16300 @ 0.00085024 = 13.8589 BTC [-] 429307;1387710380;jurov;;;estiamte 429308;1387710380;gribble;Error: "estiamte" is not a valid command. 429309;1387710381;jurov;;;estimate 429310;1387710382;gribble;Next difficulty estimate | 1302001923.11 based on data since last change | 1249173353.39 based on data for last three days 429311;1387710401;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.00085024 = 10.628 BTC [-] 429312;1387711438;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16120 @ 0.00085011 = 13.7038 BTC [-] {2} 429313;1387712170;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 84227 @ 0.00085629 = 72.1227 BTC [+] {3} 429314;1387712597;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20531 @ 0.00085313 = 17.5156 BTC [-] 429315;1387713756;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45800 @ 0.00085579 = 39.1952 BTC [+] 429316;1387714549;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 134 @ 0.02261865 = 3.0309 BTC [+] {2} 429317;1387714550;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12797 @ 0.00085962 = 11.0006 BTC [+] {2} 429318;1387715281;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27074 @ 0.00086209 = 23.3402 BTC [+] {3} 429319;1387717111;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38298 @ 0.00085257 = 32.6517 BTC [-] {3} 429320;1387717772;FabianB_;"Today bitcoin is an amazing protocol, but the only asset you can hold on bitcoin is the BTC. With ColoredCoins people can hold assets like Gold, Euro, USD and different securities on the same decentralized secure cloud platform." 429321;1387717772;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 429322;1387717784;FabianB_;since when is bitcoin a cloud platform? 429323;1387718208;pankkake;everything is the cloud as long as you say cloud 429324;1387719002;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39300 @ 0.00085406 = 33.5646 BTC [+] {3} 429325;1387719246;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45450 @ 0.00084646 = 38.4716 BTC [-] {2} 429326;1387721016;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC 429327;1387721625;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14600 @ 0.00084696 = 12.3656 BTC [+] 429328;1387722357;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 106 @ 0.00279998 = 0.2968 BTC [-] 429329;1387722601;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3427 @ 0.00012 = 0.4112 BTC [+] 429330;1387722602;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 268 @ 0.00279998 = 0.7504 BTC [-] {3} 429331;1387722784;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 1175 @ 0.00156963 = 1.8443 BTC [-] {19} 429332;1387722845;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 136 @ 0.00293999 = 0.3998 BTC [+] {3} 429333;1387722967;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.297 = 2.376 BTC [+] 429334;1387723028;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00293999 = 0.294 BTC [-] 429335;1387723029;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 200 @ 0.0033 = 0.66 BTC [+] 429336;1387723211;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 9243 @ 0.00010175 = 0.9405 BTC [-] {10} 429337;1387723272;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15500 @ 0.00084928 = 13.1638 BTC [+] 429338;1387723638;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46600 @ 0.00084774 = 39.5047 BTC [-] {4} 429339;1387724217;KRS|Gotyawallet;Ok, so the chinks finally did it.. 429340;1387724223;KRS|Gotyawallet;..again. They found a way to bootleg crypto http://www.coindesk.com/chinese-bitcoin-exchange-okcoin-accused-faking-trading-data/ 429341;1387724329;Apocalyptic;they stole burnside's code 429342;1387724431;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34900 @ 0.00084564 = 29.5128 BTC [-] 429343;1387724614;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 72 @ 0.00294 = 0.2117 BTC [+] 429344;1387725651;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19750 @ 0.00084526 = 16.6939 BTC [-] 429345;1387726694;KRS|Gotyawallet;damn bootleggers..but they make good food. 429346;1387726740;KRS|Gotyawallet;hell they have to if they can make cat and dog taste good. 429347;1387726749;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36241 @ 0.00084478 = 30.6157 BTC [-] {2} 429348;1387726810;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.30000035 = 0.9 BTC [+] {3} 429349;1387726811;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 300 @ 0.00284445 = 0.8533 BTC [+] {6} 429350;1387726848;KRS|Gotyawallet;;;seen pirateatforty 429351;1387726848;gribble;I have not seen pirateatforty. 429352;1387726852;KRS|Gotyawallet;;;seen apirateatforty 429353;1387726852;gribble;I have not seen apirateatforty. 429354;1387726871;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 89 @ 0.00293999 = 0.2617 BTC [-] {2} 429355;1387726872;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 58 @ 0.05 = 2.9 BTC [+] 429356;1387726880;KRS|Gotyawallet;;;seen bowjob 429357;1387726880;gribble;bowjob was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 34 weeks, 5 days, 16 hours, 34 minutes, and 32 seconds ago: lol 429358;1387727847;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.31997995 = 0.64 BTC [+] 429359;1387728184;kakobrekla;star.hcblue.com/film-script-samurai-on-a-toilet.jpg 429360;1387728331;KRS|Gotyawallet;haha 429361;1387729677;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20300 @ 0.00084476 = 17.1486 BTC [-] 429362;1387729921;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00084476 = 7.9407 BTC [-] 429363;1387730212;asciilifeform;for anybody who still gives a damn re: the urbit wars: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1390&cpage=1#comment-8475 429364;1387730456;mircea_popescu;wait wars ? 429365;1387730513;mircea_popescu;wow look at that, you got embroiled in korea. 429366;1387730546;asciilifeform;'smell of kimchi in the morning.' 429367;1387730598;asciilifeform;wish i knew why they bother to write. 429368;1387730855;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform http://www.google.com/recaptcha/api/image?c=03AHJ_Vuv0n8VcsPWXOdBh6pQdbeXDO_6f8dK4x1U5WzLa02Tz7emYVE5_qZ1QscZYaNGmO1yhxV0ClWxxt0hx8rDKtAvSx4kIwjPDlmSnibrXBWfBRD58uljB-A7pE5NqXDuwybyE7dHtLYilGZCex9Ru-b1Bgos_O3WtNfvdiHwvV9h6jskfun4 429369;1387730858;mircea_popescu;what the fuck does that say ? 429370;1387730861;mircea_popescu;can you even read it ? 429371;1387730880;asciilifeform;nope. 429372;1387730913;mircea_popescu;o wow i got one 429373;1387730923;mircea_popescu;aite, so now you have a comment. 429374;1387730940;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: these captchas have really fallen through the floor, and i will crib your method when i have a moment of time... 429375;1387730968;mircea_popescu;i will continue to bitch in the meanwhile :) 429376;1387731019;mircea_popescu;http://i.imgur.com/ajUaSs6.jpg who's this guy ? 429377;1387731035;asciilifeform;critter from 'game of thrones' 429378;1387731069;asciilifeform;legitimate-ish but unsuccessful claimant to the throne. 429379;1387731080;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22300 @ 0.00084476 = 18.8381 BTC [-] 429380;1387731105;mircea_popescu;a a 429381;1387731118;asciilifeform;turns 'to the dark side', used evil magic, etc 429382;1387731166;mircea_popescu;yaya. i know the script. 429383;1387731205;mircea_popescu;i spent a decade of my youth in roughly equal halves between producing porn and handling hollywood ip. you'd be surprised how often it is the case that "no scripts are new". 429384;1387731228;mircea_popescu;or maybe you wouldn't. "mit still running fortran". big whoop. 429385;1387731286;asciilifeform;better fortran than 'new for the sake of new.' 429386;1387731302;mircea_popescu;in the case of fortran, yes. in the case of "entertainment" ?! 429387;1387731312;mircea_popescu;it's supposed to be a diversion! the fucking trade is called variety! 429388;1387731324;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24946 @ 0.00084894 = 21.1777 BTC [+] {2} 429389;1387731334;asciilifeform;the consumer demands recycled food, gets recycled food. 429390;1387731343;mircea_popescu;consumer demands my foot. 429391;1387731353;mircea_popescu;no consumer has ever demanded anything in the history of business to date. 429392;1387731365;mircea_popescu;i swear to the foregoing statement. 429393;1387731373;asciilifeform;point. herr naggum's 3-ring-notebooks. 429394;1387731413;asciilifeform;'what people want is a function of what they learn is available. e.g., do Americans want three-ring binders, and Europeans four-ring binders? or do they want binders and take whatever number of holes they come with? or do they want something that can help them organize their papers and take whatever is available? or do they really want a less cluttered office and ease of storage and retrieval of the infor 429395;1387731413;asciilifeform;mation they receive? so, did people really _want_ three-ring binders, or is that just what they could buy?' 429396;1387731430;mircea_popescu;anyway, i originally though the guy was a programmer, which seemed interesting. 429397;1387731456;mircea_popescu;this is all eerily related to the article im in the process of writing, 429398;1387731470;mircea_popescu;chiefly through stealing old irc discussion. guess now ima have to steal more. 429399;1387731515;mircea_popescu;". Decrement isnt a basic operation and requires linear rather than constant time" << this is perhaps the best part. 429400;1387731529;asciilifeform;this is actually true! 429401;1387731542;mircea_popescu;not because there aren't eggregiously bad examples peppered everywhere, but because it is the one phrase that came back underlined in all the review copies i sent out 429402;1387731572;mircea_popescu;apparently "we switched true and false around notwithstanding this breaks the logic / arithmetic superimposition" isn't quite as big 429403;1387731576;asciilifeform;nock resolves to SKI combinator calculus. 429404;1387731593;asciilifeform;where you end up using something equivalent to Church numerals 429405;1387731603;asciilifeform;hence O(n) subtraction. 429406;1387731620;asciilifeform;at least, i personally solved the puzzle by reducing it to SKI 429407;1387731625;mircea_popescu;and since we're on that logic topic : don't you find it that if indeed you go for 1 false then it would make sense to get rid of the ancient&antiquated binary logic model ? 429408;1387731635;asciilifeform;i actually suggested this to curtis 429409;1387731635;mircea_popescu;just have a true and an (arbitrary?) number of falsehoods. 429410;1387731642;asciilifeform;back in '10 429411;1387731651;mircea_popescu;seems a reasonable suggestion, if you're going to the trouble of building a boeing 429412;1387731656;mircea_popescu;might as well fill the seats so to speak 429413;1387731701;asciilifeform;(what i actually suggested was to use 'balanced-ternary', like the russian 'Setun' machine) 429414;1387731722;pankkake;True, False, Maybe? 429415;1387731726;asciilifeform;nope 429416;1387731730;mircea_popescu;i thought that was retarded 429417;1387731759;asciilifeform;nope. balanced ternary not only packs denser (ideal base is 'e' from that standpoint) but gives considerably simpler circuits. 429418;1387731774;asciilifeform;one dispenses with 'n-complement', adders are simpler, and many other things. 429419;1387731777;mircea_popescu;isn't it the case that the situation summarizes as "the russki folks came up with the idea of trying out alternative logix, made the setun, proved thereby the thing is a waste of time" ? 429420;1387731790;asciilifeform;more complicated than that 429421;1387731812;mircea_popescu;but if you didn't have the luxury to make it more complicated than that ? 429422;1387731815;asciilifeform;the fellow who built Setun was working with ferrite-based (transformer-esque) logic elements 429423;1387731822;asciilifeform;which naturally mapped to balanced ternary 429424;1387731826;mircea_popescu;aha 429425;1387731911;asciilifeform;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balanced_ternary 429426;1387731912;ozbot;Balanced ternary - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 429427;1387731927;mircea_popescu;i can't use wikipedia for this purpose 429428;1387731941;asciilifeform;there's worked arithmetic examples in there 429429;1387731943;asciilifeform;hence the link 429430;1387731944;mircea_popescu;a 429431;1387731989;mircea_popescu;well to confess, my interest is to cheaply extract gems i can later use in my administrative career, rather than to geek out on math. 429432;1387732022;asciilifeform;take-home lesson is: you get a machine with fewer moving parts - and fewer weird hacks required to make arithmetic go. 429433;1387732031;mircea_popescu;at a cost of ? 429434;1387732051;asciilifeform;that depends. 429435;1387732063;mircea_popescu;most egregious example being ? 429436;1387732075;asciilifeform;one could easily build 'setun' using modern Si chemistry, at negligible cost per se 429437;1387732086;asciilifeform;but then you want to use off-the-shelf parts... 429438;1387732113;mircea_popescu;i don't think apple for instance would have a problem with making a system that doesn't work with any computing hardware in the world. 429439;1387732116;mircea_popescu;i think they'd love it. 429440;1387732120;asciilifeform;i've some logic i wangled together long ago, that maps consumer DRAM into ternary 429441;1387732128;asciilifeform;using the slack bits for error correction coding. 429442;1387732168;asciilifeform;ternary also tastes great with Muller (asynchronous) gates. 429443;1387732241;asciilifeform;asynchronous circuit (people have actually built classical CPUs with these, 1/3 or so the power consumption of ordinary ones) 429444;1387732247;asciilifeform;you dispense with the 'clock' 429445;1387732278;asciilifeform;metastability problem is solved by every gate having a 'inputs are ready' signal as well as inputs 429446;1387732287;asciilifeform;so propagation delays are no longer a problem 429447;1387732289;mircea_popescu;so you are actually sitting there and telling me that ternary based machines a la setun actually have a computational future, technologically speaking 429448;1387732295;asciilifeform;in principle. 429449;1387732313;mircea_popescu;possibly the most outrageous thing i heard all week. 429450;1387732326;asciilifeform;C-gate is even more of an outrageous animal than ternary 429451;1387732335;mircea_popescu;question : since asics have to be special built anyway, could one build a ternary asic ? 429452;1387732339;asciilifeform;you end up with a CPU for which you cannot say 'X MHz' 429453;1387732341;mircea_popescu;use less W per h ? 429454;1387732344;asciilifeform;quite easily 429455;1387732357;mircea_popescu;perhaps we need to look into this. 429456;1387732359;asciilifeform;people built ARM on C-gates. why this is not done routinely, i can answer. 429457;1387732383;asciilifeform;modern chip designers use gnarly layout tools, priced in $seven figures, with run times measured in weeks, winblows, etc 429458;1387732388;mircea_popescu;o wait, we're in teh public chan lol. 429459;1387732391;asciilifeform;they're all geared to traditional (clocked) logic. 429460;1387732397;asciilifeform;none of this is a secret. 429461;1387732433;asciilifeform;the clockless ARM (pretty braindamaged idea, to take a classical cpu and make it clockless, but anyway) had to be designed ad hoc, avoiding industry-standard toolchains. 429462;1387732445;asciilifeform;afaik it was a purely academic demo, never went anywhere. 429463;1387733032;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21156 @ 0.00084476 = 17.8717 BTC [-] 429464;1387735441;nubbins`;ah, drinking is its own therapy 429465;1387736758;benkay;wait u guise come back that was the most educational thing in -assets all week 429466;1387737039;mod6;this stuff was good: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1390&cpage=1#comment-8475 429467;1387737134;mod6;and lol @ "Hugs and kisses," & "Of what use is a bay?" 429468;1387737139;mod6;*baby 429469;1387737212;benkay;i'll just shelve my desire for the No Such lAbs stream computation lisp machine for now. 429470;1387737361;mod6;i need to steal this and use it elsewhere: Contemplate your pyramids elsewhere. 429471;1387738112;mod6;I'm excited for the Cardano. 429472;1387738172;Duffer1;i want one so i don't have to keep reinstalling gpg4win everytime i want to auth 429473;1387738174;benkay;might just get my -otc auth down to a minute from a cold start 429474;1387738185;mod6;With the news about RSA/NSA/BSafe and that they put in a backdoored Dual ECC RNG as default in the rolling key fob, I hardly imagine the demand for a trustworthy and open-source producer of cryptographic devices. 429475;1387738226;mod6;No Such lAbs can fill a huge coming void here. 429476;1387738235;mod6;s/coming// 429477;1387738320;asciilifeform;everyone knows the tale of 'Bob the Bridge-Builder?' 429478;1387738331;mod6;(who was really suprised about the RSA/NSA news anyway?) I don't think there is a single software or hardware producer in the US that trust. Not that I perhaps ever did, but now its all out there!! 429479;1387738367;asciilifeform;villager Bob is visited by a chum of his. Bob points to a bridge, says 'built that there bridge, i did.' 429480;1387738369;mod6;asciilifeform: you mean, you can build 1000 bridges and always be known as a 'bridge-builder' but if you suck 1 dick, you'll always be known as a cocksucker? 429481;1387738378;asciilifeform;points to another, 'fixed that one last monsoon time' 429482;1387738386;asciilifeform;'but do they call me bob the bridge-builder?' 429483;1387738390;asciilifeform;'you fuck one goat...' 429484;1387738405;mod6;haha, bingo 429485;1387738421;asciilifeform;a while ago, somebody walked off with /all/ the private keys for those fobs 429486;1387738438;asciilifeform;but did rsa 'stop being bridge-builder' to the idiot 'business world' ? nope. 429487;1387738468;benkay;real world moves slowly. us ain't gonna collapse day after bitcoin arrives. 429488;1387738505;mod6;yeah, same thing with a lot of these places. Verisign got hacked, lost all SSL private keys. Pff. 429489;1387738586;asciilifeform;there's a fellow who appears to have a good handle on this phenomenon. 429490;1387738594;asciilifeform;'If the victim, at the sight of the economic predator, goes into doggie submission, we must stop discussing the phenomenon in terms of conflict and consider whether what we are observing might be some strange instance of symbiosis.' 429491;1387738600;asciilifeform;http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2009/03/welcome-to-fuffland.html 429492;1387738600;ozbot;ClubOrlov: Welcome to Fuffland 429493;1387738628;asciilifeform;the chumps, one inescapably concludes, demand to be pwned. 429494;1387738780;mod6;Another example is America's favorite fufflemobile: the SUV.<< hahah 429495;1387738868;mod6;A better term would be “qualitative fuffling:: the financial snake is finally eating its own tail. 429496;1387738876;asciilifeform;or witness 'Crypto AG' - swiss company; founded by best friend of the founder of... nsa. owned by: no one knows, probably usg. 429497;1387738881;mod6;"How much do I owe you for this latte, dear graduate?" 429498;1387738881;mod6;"Well, Sir, that will be six trillion fuffles, if you please." 429499;1387738883;mod6;^^^ 429500;1387738884;asciilifeform;#1 supplier of cipher machines to diplomats worldwide... 429501;1387738934;mod6;yikes 429502;1387738965;mod6;it's like this old Martha & The Vandellas song: "No where to run to baby! No where to hide..." 429503;1387738966;asciilifeform;AG, even in the mechanical rotor-machine days, was publicly, loudly proven to supply thoroughly-pwnable systems. 429504;1387738985;asciilifeform;the only conclusion is that its clients became such as: a gesture of submission. 429505;1387739010;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17300 @ 0.00084452 = 14.6102 BTC [-] {2} 429506;1387739013;mod6;"doggie submission" 429507;1387739041;asciilifeform;same as every country that bought MIGs. 'yes, ussr, sole source of spare parts, now owns our arse. enjoy it please' 429508;1387739112;mod6;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17yfqxoSTFM 429509;1387739113;ozbot;Martha Reeves & The Vandellas - Nowhere To Run (1965) HD - YouTube 429510;1387739263;mod6;Thanks for the link. I always like to read about peoples accounts of what they went through during the fall of the USSR. Seems like a light-version of what the USSA is going to go through soon. 429511;1387739313;mod6;Perhaps we'll all look back in 25 years and realize that it has already started, just that the switch hasn't been flipped to "rock & roll" yet. 429512;1387739378;asciilifeform;see also the author's canonical piece, 'Post-Soviet Lessons for a Post-American Century'. 429513;1387739466;mod6;ahh, thx. 429514;1387739503;asciilifeform;http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/060105_soviet_lessons.shtml 429515;1387739504;ozbot;Post-Soviet Lessons for a Post-American Century 429516;1387739509;asciilifeform;http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/062805_soviet_lessons_part2.shtml 429517;1387739509;ozbot;Post-Soviet Lessons for a Post-American Century Part II 429518;1387739514;asciilifeform;http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/071805_soviet_lessons_part3.shtml 429519;1387739515;ozbot;Post-Soviet Lessons for a Post-American Century Part III 429520;1387739546;asciilifeform;i think he put an expanded version of this in one of his dead-tree books, also. 429521;1387739605;mod6;maybe i should pick up one of those. 429522;1387739618;mod6;so many books, so little time! 429523;1387739636;kakobrekla;they should just stop writing for gods sake 429524;1387739643;mod6;haha 429525;1387739645;asciilifeform;well, orlov did. 429526;1387739655;asciilifeform;he promised to, at any rate. 429527;1387739694;asciilifeform;he said something to the effect of 'my books just fuck people up for no ultimate gain.' 429528;1387739742;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00294449 = 0.1472 BTC [+] {2} 429529;1387740117;mod6;i would assert that he's wrong and that his writing does have meaning. although dark, what can be more important than the lessons of the past to future generations? 429530;1387741145;mircea_popescu;so theres this 70s film about a kid living in repressed california fucking his neighbour's wife and then her daughter. 429531;1387741156;mircea_popescu;anyone recall the damned name or the (very young at the time) star ? 429532;1387741201;mircea_popescu;the graduate. ty internets. 429533;1387741287;benkay;mircea_popescu: have you seen "the counselor"? 429534;1387741317;mircea_popescu;1sec, trying to finish this fucking monster. 429535;1387741544;mod6;ah, yeah The Graduate. 429536;1387742474;KRS|Gotyawallet;lolita 429537;1387742790;z;hey i got a question, if i suggest a new bet and i fund it and they reject it, do i get my BTC back? 429538;1387742975;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33537 @ 0.00084569 = 28.3619 BTC [+] {2} 429539;1387743005;zach_;if i suggest a new bet and i fund it, but it gets rejected do i get the BTC back? 429540;1387743025;mircea_popescu;yes. 429541;1387743062;zach_;ok thank you 429542;1387743951;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2750 @ 0.00084926 = 2.3355 BTC [+] 429543;1387744134;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 174468 @ 0.00085042 = 148.3711 BTC [+] {4} 429544;1387744301;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/the-wonderful-powers-of-make-believe/ 429545;1387744302;ozbot;The wonderful powers of make-believe pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 429546;1387744307;mircea_popescu;curious if it makes any sense to anyone. 429547;1387744493;Duffer1;i love having my ignorance immortalized in your blog MP 429548;1387744502;mircea_popescu;it's what you get! 429549;1387744506;Duffer1;lol 429550;1387744635;benkay;you're not just cribbing from IRC but your own past posts as well 429551;1387744639;benkay;lazy romanians 429552;1387744683;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27150 @ 0.00085126 = 23.1117 BTC [+] {2} 429553;1387745011;mircea_popescu;if you ain't cheatin' you ain't tryin'. 429554;1387745017;mircea_popescu;to quote a famous romanian artist. 429555;1387745300;mod6;haha 429556;1387745356;benkay;i'm interested in the notion of cheating as a prerequisite for success, and how most americans don't get this. gotta be a part of the socialist thought repression... 429557;1387745398;Duffer1;or the conservative accuracy oppression 429558;1387745539;mircea_popescu;most americans got this just fine back when america was going up. 429559;1387745548;mircea_popescu;they stopped getting it just as it started tumbling. 429560;1387745557;mircea_popescu;perhaps mere coincidence. 429561;1387745636;mircea_popescu;(the quote i used is a us baseball thing) 429562;1387745910;KRS|Gotyawallet;just won 5.3 btc on just-dice just fucking around lmao 429563;1387745960;mircea_popescu;you'll lose 50 the same way. 429564;1387746086;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1263 @ 0.00084838 = 1.0715 BTC [-] 429565;1387746183;KRS|Gotyawallet;no shit..hate gambling. i was bored. never going back there again. 429566;1387746210;mircea_popescu;great. take it to bitbet 429567;1387746211;mircea_popescu;>D 429568;1387746420;KRS|Gotyawallet;ya actually i've been wanting to get in on some of those 429569;1387746423;KRS|Gotyawallet;looks fun 429570;1387746474;mircea_popescu;i was being sarcastic sort-of! 429571;1387746480;Duffer1;didn't you just say you hate gambling? :P 429572;1387746610;mircea_popescu;inb4 "bitbet is not gambling, it's more like poker" 429573;1387747078;KRS|Gotyawallet;yes thats why i like fucking over the casinos 429574;1387747094;KRS|Gotyawallet;last time i played blackjack i won $2400 using $100 in bets..i never went back...f'them 429575;1387747278;Duffer1;grats man 429576;1387747326;mircea_popescu;lol cool story bro. 429577;1387747426;KRS|Gotyawallet;hah thanks..i have a friend who is a roofer and gambles non stop poor guy..blackjack. 429578;1387747428;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40800 @ 0.0008456 = 34.5005 BTC [-] 429579;1387747550;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 10 @ 0.03900041 = 0.39 BTC [-] {7} 429580;1387748017;Vexual;bit bet is kinda like futures on easymode no? 429581;1387748052;pankkake;I like it 429582;1387748295;Vexual;where are all these 70k houses? thats stamp duty in oz 429583;1387748312;Duffer1;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=381045.0 429584;1387748316;ozbot;bitcoin bear chart 429585;1387748346;mod6;asciilifeform: Just finished part I. Strangely, I feel like I've read it before. Looking forward to parts II & III though. Really good stuff. 429586;1387748616;mircea_popescu;Vexual sort of i guess 429587;1387749061;Vexual;with more pussy riot, i like it 429588;1387749136;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.31994985 = 0.9598 BTC [-] {2} 429589;1387749380;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 2800 @ 0.00289999 = 8.12 BTC [+] {3} 429590;1387749548;Duffer1;PornTube.com ‏@PornTube 1h 429591;1387749550;Duffer1;@Bitcoin 2014 would be a great year to start! 429592;1387749551;Duffer1;Retweeted by Bitcoin 429593;1387749990;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6674 @ 0.00084373 = 5.6311 BTC [-] 429594;1387750441;ThickAsThieves;I think Harrison Ford will be the next Naked Gun lead 429595;1387750539;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 76415 @ 0.00084271 = 64.3957 BTC [-] {4} 429596;1387750600;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 96 @ 0.0015 = 0.144 BTC [-] {2} 429597;1387750844;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19750 @ 0.00084182 = 16.6259 BTC [-] 429598;1387751454;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23100 @ 0.00084182 = 19.446 BTC [-] 429599;1387752735;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18400 @ 0.00084171 = 15.4875 BTC [-] 429600;1387752857;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 71 @ 0.0029 = 0.2059 BTC [+] 429601;1387753345;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20500 @ 0.00084155 = 17.2518 BTC [-] {2} 429602;1387753545;benkay;"Thus, a Russian is less likely to consider sudden descent into pverty as a fall from God's grace, and economic collapse as God's punishment upon the people, while the religions that dominate America - Protestentatism, Judaism, Islam - all feature temporal success of their followers as a key piece of evidence that god is well-disposed to them." 429603;1387753552;benkay;from part 2 429604;1387754857;KRS|Gotyawallet;Yes God favors the Whites. 429605;1387754931;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15500 @ 0.00084182 = 13.0482 BTC [+] 429606;1387754941;KRS|Gotyawallet;Thats how everyone knows Jesus and Santa Claus were white. A picture of a black Jesus doesn't even look right. 429607;1387754961;KRS|Gotyawallet;and I never even seen a picture of a black santa claus. 429608;1387754992;KRS|Gotyawallet;See what I mean: http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/blacksanta.jpg 429609;1387755008;KRS|Gotyawallet;If you see that Santa Claus comin out yo window, betta believe that nigga robbin yo crib. 429610;1387755050;KRS|Gotyawallet;Ain't levin no presents...ain't tastin no cookie..straight up gankin. 429611;1387755104;jurov;gankin'santa 429612;1387755115;jurov;ohmy 429613;1387755350;ivstr28;can someone explain why MSC is terrible, and if MSC fails, what would stop another similar effort? 429614;1387755448;ivstr28;ppl on? 429615;1387755463;jurov;no, santa gankin' 429616;1387755465;Duffer1;there's a couple threads about mastercion scam 429617;1387755478;Duffer1;i haven't looked at it myself so can't say either way 429618;1387755501;ivstr28;yea lots of hyperbole for sure 429619;1387755595;ivstr28;http://themisescircle.org/blog/2013/12/20/mastercoin-is-a-nightmare-of-insanity/ 429620;1387755596;ozbot;Mastercoin is a Nightmare of Insanity 429621;1387755615;ivstr28;yeah comments at the end of the blog... 429622;1387755661;Duffer1;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1rpx26/mastercoin_is_a_joke/ 429623;1387755662;ozbot;Mastercoin is a joke : Bitcoin 429624;1387755814;ivstr28;oz your reasoning is the same as the blog I posted? 429625;1387755872;ivstr28;*link 429626;1387755908;Duffer1;hehe 429627;1387755915;Duffer1;oz BOT :P 429628;1387755947;ivstr28;yeah read the reddit thread 429629;1387756114;benkay;having a nonesensical coin is great because it weeds out everyone who might have a clue from the scam pool 429630;1387756145;Vexual;http://wrongcops.com/ 429631;1387756146;ozbot;Wrong Cops 429632;1387756238;ivstr28;benkay, nonesensical coin = mastercoin? 429633;1387756318;benkay;might be an example 429634;1387756326;benkay;who can ever tell 429635;1387756348;ivstr28;fragmented, competing standards for sure 429636;1387756377;ivstr28;still misunderstanding why MSC is a scam 429637;1387756401;benkay;everything is a scam 429638;1387756416;ivstr28;seems to be lots of hyperbole, when when there are valid criticisms, the spec gets updated 429639;1387756417;benkay;bitcoin alone is the truth. all else is transient scammery. 429640;1387756431;benkay;wait no dogecoin alone is the truth 429641;1387756442;ivstr28;so how long do we have to wait until open transactions? 429642;1387756508;benkay;wth is an open transaction? 429643;1387756519;Vexual;hyperbole 429644;1387756581;benkay;"I saw JR Willet present at Bitcoin 2013 conference in San Jose. He struck me as an honest guy, well intentioned, and smart. That's why I don't think Mastercoin is a scam." 429645;1387756589;benkay;oh well that convinced me 429646;1387756601;benkay;master coin to the moon! 429647;1387756658;ivstr28;okay, still not getting any meat and potatos here 429648;1387756696;benkay;i'm not getting paid to do your thinking for you, although we can arrange for that. 429649;1387756717;Vexual;u selling ur meat and potatoes ben10? 429650;1387756748;benkay;yup. 1B/hr of answering your questions with meat and potatoes. 429651;1387756749;ivstr28;interesting 429652;1387756774;benkay;you'll have to get into the WoT and sign a contract so I can nail your ass to the wall for nonpayment later. 429653;1387756786;ivstr28;oi vey 429654;1387756831;benkay;potatoes can be had though 429655;1387756837;benkay;here, a freebie: 429656;1387756841;benkay;http://blog.standardcrypto.com/2013/08/01/willet-or-wont-it-mastercoin/ 429657;1387756842;ozbot;Willet or Won’t It? (Mastercoin) | StandardCrypto 429658;1387756875;ivstr28;lol posted aug 1 429659;1387756895;benkay;no appreciation for history. 429660;1387756896;ivstr28;all work on the project since then is irrelevent 429661;1387756931;benkay;all work ever done on mastercoin is irrelevant. 429662;1387757010;ivstr28;because its stupid 429663;1387757066;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 500 @ 0.001 = 0.5 BTC 429664;1387757174;benkay;mastercoin has reversable transactions 429665;1387757191;benkay;i can't even fathom the mind that decided that a return to the broken past was necessary. 429666;1387757255;ivstr28;so you thought the white paper on decentralized applications was bullshit too right? 429667;1387757479;benkay;the david johnston paper? 429668;1387757591;benkay;ivstr28: the david johnston paper? 429669;1387757605;ivstr28;yeah 429670;1387757617;ivstr28;ron gross and two other guys are on it too 429671;1387757883;benkay;well its pretty badly written to begin with 429672;1387757928;benkay;and until someone pays me for a thorough fisking it will just have to languish in the obscurity that is the attention of the altcoin/I matter circlejerk. 429673;1387758085;benkay;ivstr28: see above. 429674;1387758188;ivstr28;roj 429675;1387759750;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15171 @ 0.00084154 = 12.767 BTC [-] 429676;1387760482;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9066 @ 0.00084182 = 7.6319 BTC [+] 429677;1387760909;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.00280978 = 1.4049 BTC [-] {9} 429678;1387761031;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 84 @ 0.00280002 = 0.2352 BTC [-] 429679;1387761092;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 416 @ 0.00280001 = 1.1648 BTC [-] 429680;1387761153;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 21 @ 0.04999942 = 1.05 BTC [-] {2} 429681;1387762373;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2784 @ 0.00012 = 0.3341 BTC [+] 429682;1387762800;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7736 @ 0.00084154 = 6.5102 BTC [-] 429683;1387764142;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 80 @ 0.0029 = 0.232 BTC [+] 429684;1387764250;benkay;gotta love that average order size 429685;1387764508;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 6 @ 0.02429999 = 0.1458 BTC [+] 429686;1387764691;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31350 @ 0.00084146 = 26.3798 BTC [-] {2} 429687;1387765850;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8150 @ 0.00084484 = 6.8854 BTC [+] {2} 429688;1387765972;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.31000003 = 0.62 BTC [-] {2} 429689;1387766155;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.0008456 = 4.228 BTC [+] 429690;1387766265;nubbins`;hi 429691;1387766521;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.05 = 0.25 BTC [+] 429692;1387767497;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9350 @ 0.00084614 = 7.9114 BTC [+] {3} 429693;1387767990;nubbins`;hm 429694;1387768007;nubbins`;i wonder, is there a market for custom one-off tees with your public key printed on the front 429695;1387768012;nubbins`;maybe the ultimate nerd shirt 429696;1387768168;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13443 @ 0.0008423 = 11.323 BTC [-] {2} 429697;1387768229;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1207 @ 0.00084055 = 1.0145 BTC [-] 429698;1387768336;benkay;sounds ugly as fuck 429699;1387768341;nubbins`;hahaha 429700;1387768344;nubbins`;well yeah 429701;1387768353;nubbins`;courier new font, natch 429702;1387768362;nubbins`;it's a nerd shirt, they're all ugly 429703;1387768419;nubbins`;http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/5d6a/ 429704;1387768420;ozbot;ThinkGeek :: There's no place like 127.0.0.1 429705;1387768423;nubbins`;many are groan-worthy 429706;1387768437;nubbins`;at least a shirt with your pgp key would have some utility 429707;1387768452;nubbins`;not much, mind you -- good luck getting the key off the shirt and into your computer -- but still 429708;1387768459;benkay;a tiny barely-there stencil over the breast pocket might be nice 429709;1387768462;benkay;possibly stitched 429710;1387768464;nubbins`;hm 429711;1387768470;nubbins`;how about black ink on a black shirt? 429712;1387768496;nubbins`;you'd have to catch the shine to read it 429713;1387768613;mod6;you could have a QR code on your shirt that was just your public key or whatever.. 429714;1387768617;KRS|Gotyawallet;;;seen jurov 429715;1387768618;gribble;jurov was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 hours, 39 minutes, and 14 seconds ago: no, santa gankin' 429716;1387768704;KRS|Gotyawallet;;;tell jurov later just-dice user study completed..interesting results..time is a function of random number chosen, time passing increases entropy, next data gathering, will probably use perl 429717;1387768900;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2250 @ 0.00084055 = 1.8912 BTC [-] 429718;1387769437;kakobrekla;whats the result? 42? 429719;1387769506;nubbins`;yeah 429720;1387769529;kakobrekla;!jd 429721;1387769529;assbot;Just-Dice stat: 10657 BTC profit, 35.5k BTC invested, 371.70 mio bets, 4.65 mio BTC wagered 429722;1387769574;nubbins`;mod6: nobody's going to scan a qr code on a shirt, because chances are it's not worth it 429723;1387769601;nubbins`;at least with plain text, you can decide yourself whether it's worth the effort 429724;1387770974;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00084645 = 7.9566 BTC [+] {2} 429725;1387773048;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6850 @ 0.00084055 = 5.7578 BTC [-] 429726;1387773719;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.05 = 0.5 BTC [+] 429727;1387776281;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5500 @ 0.00012 = 0.66 BTC [+] 429728;1387776769;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17247 @ 0.00084549 = 14.5822 BTC [+] {3} 429729;1387777196;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.0657 = 0.1971 BTC [-] 429730;1387778477;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.02429998 = 0.1215 BTC [+] 429731;1387778538;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.02429999 = 0.1215 BTC [+] 429732;1387779331;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3923 @ 0.00084085 = 3.2987 BTC [-] 429733;1387779575;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5650 @ 0.00084083 = 4.7507 BTC [-] {2} 429734;1387781160;KRS|Gotyawallet;Wtf does this place die when the U.S. sleeps? 429735;1387782487;Namworld;More or less 429736;1387782808;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8838 @ 0.00084149 = 7.4371 BTC [+] 429737;1387783235;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15747 @ 0.00084286 = 13.2725 BTC [+] {2} 429738;1387783843;benkay;nubbins' this whole pubkey in public thing is a bit declasse, you know? "here's where you can send me money" printed on things is a bit tacky. 429739;1387783873;benkay;now as part of a jewelry, discreet and all, that might be an interesting thing. 429740;1387783915;dio_;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=339544.0 did this guy lose $7k because his originating transfer from a dumb company didnt include a 7 cents-or-so transaction fee 429741;1387783917;ozbot;BitBet Stole ~$7,000 from me (10 BTC) 429742;1387783965;dio_;? 429743;1387783983;benkay;no because his transaction didn't clear before the deadline 429744;1387783999;benkay;subtle distinction many people fail to understand. requires intimate understanding of the blockchain etc. 429745;1387784000;dio_;didnt clear because the lack of transaction fee... 429746;1387784007;dio_;unless you didnt read that 429747;1387784023;benkay;it may as well say "because he's an idiot who doesn't understand the bitcoin protocol" 429748;1387784038;benkay;people who don't understand how things actually work are generally going to fuck themselves. 429749;1387784114;dio_;was the originating transfer from a dumb company that dint include an approximate 7 cent transsaciton fee that would have accleerated propgaation of the transaction enough to be acceptec by thte deadline? if not yes or no....any guess on probability? 429750;1387784184;dio_;i can run that through spell check if anyones having issues 429751;1387784407;dio_;seems to be the case 429752;1387784484;benkay;yup sounds right to me 429753;1387784502;benkay;basically some idiot had a dependency in his financial toolchain whose impacts on sending money he didn't understand. 429754;1387784519;dio_;no reason to spout ad hominems... 429755;1387784539;dio_;i was trying to be logical 429756;1387784551;benkay;it is the fate of all who do not grok their computation platforms to forever wail and thrash in incompetent rage at their continuing inability to do business and acquire as much capital as their self-image indicates they should have 429757;1387784557;benkay;this story is SO OLD 429758;1387784566;dio_;huh? 429759;1387784581;benkay;precisely. 429760;1387784600;dio_;passive aggresive, i see 429761;1387784760;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12803 @ 0.00084517 = 10.8207 BTC [+] 429762;1387784777;dio_;i just wnated to make sure, that dude got screwed out of 7k becuase he transfered from a dumb company that didnt pay an approximate 7 cent transaction fee 429763;1387784796;dio_;which, out of the guys defense, would be (dangerously) assumed to be included 429764;1387784799;dio_;but...eh.. 429765;1387784821;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6497 @ 0.00084572 = 5.4946 BTC [+] 429766;1387784824;benkay;;;ticker 429767;1387784824;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 670.41403, Best ask: 678.59398, Bid-ask spread: 8.17995, Last trade: 670.414, 24 hour volume: 13690.56230659, 24 hour low: 630.0, 24 hour high: 700.0, 24 hour vwap: 666.96364 429768;1387784827;dio_;a logical person would smell collusion 429769;1387784837;dio_;but eh....not everything is logical 429770;1387784847;benkay;between the other 'wallet' and bitbet? 429771;1387784857;benkay;;;ticker 429772;1387784858;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 671.005, Best ask: 678.59396, Bid-ask spread: 7.58896, Last trade: 670.414, 24 hour volume: 13689.99901707, 24 hour low: 630.0, 24 hour high: 700.0, 24 hour vwap: 666.96373 429773;1387784884;dio_;i dunno 429774;1387784891;dio_;u tell me 429775;1387784904;benkay;a logical person wouldn't smell anything but stupid 429776;1387784928;benkay;if you can't handle txn fees, and you don't understand their impact on transactions, you don't hold bitcoin for long. 429777;1387784942;dio_;who are you talking to? 429778;1387784991;benkay;well the 'you' thing is a conversational construct 429779;1387784997;benkay;i could just as well have written 'one' 429780;1387785027;benkay;but it's really for you. 429781;1387785060;dio_;try and answer questions quicker dude 429782;1387785071;benkay;you're investigating this months old thing where someone tried to slip in under the wire of a bet before it closed, but sent from a not-really-a-wallet-wallet and so didn't have a txn fee, which meant their txn had to wait for the first friendly miner including zero fee blocks. 429783;1387785102;benkay;blocks -> transactions 429784;1387785114;benkay;i'm trying to give you a bigger perspective here 429785;1387785117;benkay;bitcoin is hard 429786;1387785124;benkay;u can't bitcoin, u no has bitcoin eventually 429787;1387785144;dio_;why are you strawmaning 429788;1387785281;dio_;i guess that was a rhetorical question, my bad 429789;1387786032;Vexual;whats pink and hard? 429790;1387786076;benkay;dunno v whazzat? 429791;1387786084;Vexual;a pig with a flick knife 429792;1387786092;benkay;har har har 429793;1387786101;benkay;http://greatbooksformen.wordpress.com/2013/10/03/newsflash-ben-bernanke-originally-wrote-miley-cyruss-hit-song-we-cant-stop-as-a-fedzlz-mission-statetemenstz-lzzoizzlzoz/ 429794;1387786103;ozbot;NEWSFLASH BEN BERNANKE originally wrote MILEY CYRUS’S hit song WE CAN’T STOP as a FEDzlz mission 429795;1387786424;Vexual;what would bitcoin barbie come with? 429796;1387786718;benkay;dunno vex hit me 429797;1387786734;Vexual;im not sure if thet should be a crude joke or a tshirt for nubbins 429798;1387786736;benkay;come with or come on? 429799;1387786813;Vexual;the crude joke punchline would be "nothing, she is vaginaless@ 429800;1387786859;Vexual;but in the existing box, would it be tulips and lsd? 429801;1387786878;benkay;why tulips? 429802;1387786905;Vexual;i heard it said once, im not sure of the correlation 429803;1387787010;Vexual;rented servers and a maserati? 429804;1387787062;benkay;you don't rent servers this is bitcoin 429805;1387787089;benkay;locked cages and asics? 429806;1387787136;Vexual;miner barbie 429807;1387787323;Vexual;deaf with a heat rash 429808;1387788237;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15800 @ 0.00084199 = 13.3034 BTC [-] {2} 429809;1387789457;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00084225 = 7.9172 BTC [+] {3} 429810;1387790942;Vexual;http://fishconsult.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Fishing-boat-in-Khasab-Oman.jpg 429811;1387791002;Vexual;bitcoin barbie 429812;1387791105;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8750 @ 0.00084473 = 7.3914 BTC [+] 429813;1387793057;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00084387 = 6.751 BTC [-] {2} 429814;1387793545;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10452 @ 0.00084101 = 8.7902 BTC [-] 429815;1387794094;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11300 @ 0.00084376 = 9.5345 BTC [+] {3} 429816;1387794521;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4483 @ 0.00084054 = 3.7681 BTC [-] {2} 429817;1387796565;Vexual;http://vimeo.com/61341838 429818;1387796566;ozbot;Bob Dylan - Isis (1976) on Vimeo 429819;1387797513;Vexual;the word scam flys around a lot in bitcoinia 429820;1387797542;Vexual;heres a scam, 55 days interest free, but if you dont make a payment every month theres a late fee 429821;1387797559;Diablo-D3;not at all 429822;1387797574;Vexual;no scammy? 429823;1387797580;Diablo-D3;some companies DO make "no payments until future date" things 429824;1387797584;Diablo-D3;not all of them are 429825;1387797594;Diablo-D3;no interest != doesn't have to cover minimum payment 429826;1387797601;Diablo-D3;no interest is no interest 429827;1387797616;Vexual;so whats that called? sneaky? 429828;1387797617;Diablo-D3;and Ive seen ones which have interest but have "no payment until the future" 429829;1387797625;Diablo-D3;Vexual: its called standard business practices 429830;1387797636;Diablo-D3;its not even sneaky if they're up front about it 429831;1387797646;Diablo-D3;they have to inform you what your minimum monthly is anyhow, by law 429832;1387797658;Diablo-D3;before you sign 429833;1387797675;Vexual;you're right 429834;1387797680;jurov;http://onbitcoin.com/2013/12/22/bloomberg-exposes-bitcoin-paper-wallet-private-key-tv-gets-stolen/ hahaha 429835;1387797680;ozbot;Bloomberg Exposes Bitcoin Paper Wallet Private Key on TV, Gets Stolen | On Bitcoin 429836;1387797703;Vexual;bloomberg is going out, anyon know about the new mayor? 429837;1387797741;Diablo-D3;Vexual: bloomberg, the mayor != bloomberg the news outlet 429838;1387797755;Vexual;yeah i know, his tenure is up soon 429839;1387797763;Diablo-D3;good 429840;1387797767;Diablo-D3;nyc needs a better mayor 429841;1387797773;Diablo-D3;and the word tenure is wrong 429842;1387797776;Vexual;fucking juliani 429843;1387797786;Vexual;whatever im not american 429844;1387797793;Diablo-D3;tenture does not "go up", it comes into existance after being there for ten years 429845;1387797801;Diablo-D3;its an xbox achievement of life. 429846;1387797815;Diablo-D3;it means something in acadameia but nowhere else 429847;1387797821;Diablo-D3;the word you're looking for is term 429848;1387797824;Diablo-D3;his term is up 429849;1387797826;Vexual;thnaks 429850;1387797901;Vexual;right or wrong, whats the deal? 429851;1387797914;Diablo-D3;what do you mean 429852;1387797931;Vexual;do you know anything about this new guy? 429853;1387797934;Diablo-D3;nope 429854;1387797948;Diablo-D3;I don't particularly pay attention to small time politics like that 429855;1387797964;Vexual;its the world city 429856;1387797977;Diablo-D3;its a city, and the guy is still a mayor 429857;1387798024;Vexual;he can fart and make a law for every guy that works on wall st 429858;1387798032;Diablo-D3;not really. 429859;1387798044;Diablo-D3;thats up to congress 429860;1387798056;Diablo-D3;ny state rarely interferes with financial concerns like that 429861;1387798074;Diablo-D3;nyc isnt even the biggest city in the world 429862;1387798091;Vexual;i know its kinda academic, but he influences peoples lives 429863;1387798103;Diablo-D3;he does 429864;1387798106;Diablo-D3;but not in major ways 429865;1387798143;Diablo-D3;now, where people park? where schools are built (but not the funding to build)? how many black people get arrested for being black? thats totally the mayor's thing 429866;1387798201;Diablo-D3;hell, even the building of the new WTC, the mayor's office had very little input on it and would have to sign off on it no matter if they liked it or not due to how high profile it is 429867;1387798245;Vexual;youre probably right 429868;1387798268;Vexual;ydo you think he has more power in his news agency? 429869;1387798274;Diablo-D3;its not his 429870;1387798294;Diablo-D3;but he IS distantly related to the guy who started it 429871;1387798318;Vexual;have you been to new york? 429872;1387798325;Diablo-D3;... 429873;1387798326;Diablo-D3;wtf 429874;1387798332;Diablo-D3;you've got to be kidding me 429875;1387798335;Diablo-D3;I just fact checked myself 429876;1387798336;Vexual;new paragraph 429877;1387798338;Diablo-D3;not only am I wrong 429878;1387798343;Diablo-D3;but he started it. 429879;1387798377;Diablo-D3;Bloomberg L.P. is a privately held financial software, data and media company headquartered in New York City. Bloomberg L.P. was founded by Michael Bloomberg in 1981 with the help of Thomas Secunda, Duncan MacMillan, Charles Zegar[6] and a 30% ownership investment by Merrill Lynch. 429880;1387798381;Diablo-D3;I now like him even less. 429881;1387798402;Vexual;do you also dislike the yakuza boss that runs tokyo? 429882;1387798491;Vexual;democracy 429883;1387798558;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WutGkPePnCU 429884;1387798559;ozbot;Black Eyed Peas My Humps Outro "So Real" Cleanly Edited Extended Version - YouTube 429885;1387798603;Diablo-D3;there is more than one yakuza boss, btw 429886;1387798614;Diablo-D3;but the one you're thinking of, hes actually a pretty cool dude 429887;1387798667;Vexual;i dont know who im thinking of and i dont want to 429888;1387798669;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00084287 = 4.4672 BTC [+] {2} 429889;1387798708;Diablo-D3;Well, I assume Kenichi Shinoda 429890;1387798717;Diablo-D3;its who everyone thinks of when they think Yakuza. 429891;1387798771;Vexual;i didnt know the name before 429892;1387798913;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00084505 = 7.1829 BTC [+] 429893;1387798938;Vexual;what a cyberpunk future we live in huh? 429894;1387798946;Diablo-D3;I guess. 429895;1387798956;Vexual;wonka bars and electric cars 429896;1387798993;Vexual;global reserve that can change hands anywhere in a second 429897;1387799295;Diablo-D3;yup 429898;1387799302;Diablo-D3;its the end of the old order, and the start of a new. 429899;1387799325;Diablo-D3;all that will come to pass has been written in the days of yore 429900;1387799400;Vexual;its still kinda the industrial revolution, were just living on part of the curve thats steep 429901;1387799467;Vexual;i think it was poescue who said you need three people to be sucessful as an individual these days 429902;1387799474;Vexual;or some such 429903;1387799551;Vexual;we live in a fantastic time 429904;1387799583;pankkake;I'd like to believe so… 429905;1387799602;Vexual;i wouldnt swap out for quids 429906;1387799888;Vexual;look how new jumbo jets are 429907;1387800066;AndrewJackson;i love Jumbo Jets 429908;1387800592;Vexual;fuckin aye 429909;1387800725;Vexual;radio music was ahead of its time 429910;1387800808;Vexual;but its not a hive entil theres feedback 429911;1387801536;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10000 @ 0.00012 = 1.2 BTC [+] 429912;1387801658;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 126 @ 0.00293971 = 0.3704 BTC [+] {4} 429913;1387804487;mircea_popescu;http://www.halfpasthuman.com/essays/bitregistrar.html 429914;1387804488;ozbot;BitRegistrar: p2p vital records.. 429915;1387804491;mircea_popescu;retardation never stops. 429916;1387804508;mircea_popescu;gpg has been around for 20 years, pgp for 30, this guy just discovered "bitcoin signatures" 429917;1387804519;mircea_popescu;fucking need a bigger fire. 429918;1387805137;truffles;bonfire! 429919;1387805623;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6452 @ 0.00084505 = 5.4523 BTC [+] 429920;1387805702;mircea_popescu;It's our hero, the Egregious Trope-Man! With his amazing trope-related powers, he always saves the day! 429921;1387805702;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 429922;1387805702;mircea_popescu;But oh no! Here comes the Legion of Evil: Dr von Trope, The Dog Kicker, The Chessmaster, Superdick, Mr. Macekre, and the Brotherhood of Bowdlerization, Sir Jerkass, and the villainous Mary Sue! Together they'll bring about The End of the World as We Know It... 429923;1387805709;mircea_popescu;im lost in tvtropes. send food. 429924;1387805852;truffles;u got lost in Superdick eh 429925;1387806369;wao-ender;mircea_popescu: did you see http://imgur.com/x2vFGDi ? 429926;1387806410;mircea_popescu;is it more than a cartoon someone on reddit drew ? 429927;1387806547;KRS|Gotyawallet;https://blockchain.info/address/1AYtnRppWM7tWQaVLpm7TvcHKrjKxgCRvX%20? 429928;1387806548;ozbot;Bitcoin Address 1AYtnRppWM7tWQaVLpm7TvcHKrjKxgCRvX 429929;1387806551;KRS|Gotyawallet;^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 429930;1387806570;KRS|Gotyawallet;Thats one of you guys isn't it...come on now.. 429931;1387806593;mircea_popescu;it's old. 429932;1387806599;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10000 @ 0.00012 = 1.2 BTC [+] 429933;1387806604;KRS|Gotyawallet;did you see "public note" 429934;1387806666;mircea_popescu;"To stop the this" ? nobody here has such bad grammar. 429935;1387806838;KRS|Gotyawallet;=/ 429936;1387806839;KRS|Gotyawallet;the end is near 429937;1387806850;ThickAsThieves;http://www.businessinsider.com/bloomberg-matt-miller-bitcoin-gift-stolen-2013-12 429938;1387806850;ozbot;Bloomberg's Miller Bitcoin Gift Stolen - Business Insider 429939;1387806855;ThickAsThieves;lel 429940;1387806884;KRS|Gotyawallet;Winklevoss twins are in the secret group, they told us ETF application has been denied and secondmarket's will soon be shut down, BTC to be banned in the US following China's actions. Thus the reasoning for the orchestration of the 400kBTC dump to happen soon. 429941;1387806952;KRS|Gotyawallet;lets rally up some btc and buy up that 400K alright? 429942;1387806965;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2281 @ 0.00012 = 0.2737 BTC [+] 429943;1387806969;KRS|Gotyawallet;i'll drop 75K on it, shiet this is war nigga 429944;1387807120;ThickAsThieves;bitcoin magazine really needs to get rid of those spammy 'article' ads at the bottom of the page 429945;1387807131;ThickAsThieves;and also not write about dogecoin... 429946;1387807135;ThickAsThieves;http://bitcoinmagazine.com/9109/will-dogecoin-replace-bitcoin/ 429947;1387807136;ozbot;Will Dogecoin Replace Bitcoin 429948;1387807150;ThickAsThieves;if you have to ask... 429949;1387807199;mircea_popescu;herp. 429950;1387807226;mircea_popescu;dude srsly, this retards wave 3.0 thing is above any predicted high water mark. 429951;1387807253;mircea_popescu;if post-sell-by date starlets start "leaking" bitcoin tapes i'm gonna hurt some puppies. 429952;1387807424;kakobrekla;what? but its clear http://i.imgur.com/v2g0rDC.gif 429953;1387807545;KRS|Gotyawallet;anybody concerned about that public note on 400K btc? 429954;1387807550;KRS|Gotyawallet;sry "anyone" 429955;1387807566;mircea_popescu;KRS|Gotyawallet do you generally put a lot of concern into 10 cents ? 429956;1387807578;ThickAsThieves;https://blogs.rsa.com/news-media-2/rsa-response/ 429957;1387807579;ozbot;RSA Response to Media Claims Regarding NSA Relationship » Speaking of Security - The RSA Blog 429958;1387807587;ThickAsThieves;(they deny it)\ 429959;1387807598;mircea_popescu;yeah, because that always worked. 429960;1387808137;jurov;don't we have a bitbet about this already? 429961;1387808148;jurov;such as dogecoin mkt cap > btc? 429962;1387808264;mircea_popescu;is there any way to reliably measure such a putative mkt cap ? 429963;1387808451;mircea_popescu;.d 429964;1387808451;ozbot;1180923195.25803 | Next Diff in 1649 blocks | Estimated Change: 14.1862% in 9d 19h 38m 50s 429965;1387808962;KRS|Gotyawallet;ok..well..hrmph..cool I guess. Thanks dude.s 429966;1387809175;mircea_popescu;KRS|Gotyawallet you seriously failed to notice that "the big move" happened january 2011 ? 429967;1387809222;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00084478 = 6.9272 BTC [-] 429968;1387809527;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 309 @ 0.0029 = 0.8961 BTC [+] {4} 429969;1387809588;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1781 @ 0.00084478 = 1.5046 BTC [-] 429970;1387809649;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 333 @ 0.00308095 = 1.026 BTC [+] {8} 429971;1387809656;KRS|Gotyawallet;I agree with you guys, but this time I think even Fontas said its the end. 429972;1387809674;KRS|Gotyawallet;http://trollboxarchive.com/search.php?search_type=username&search=fontas 429973;1387809675;ozbot;trollboxarchive.com btc-e chat archive SEARCH 429974;1387809682;truffles;is the bitcoin sky fallling 429975;1387809833;KRS|Gotyawallet;=/ 429976;1387809864;truffles;ye of little faith 429977;1387809893;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.309 BTC [-] 429978;1387809938;KRS|Gotyawallet;I just report the news, I'm not backing it up, interested in comments from you guys because I value your wisdom. 429979;1387809983;truffles;u should start a news site then :D 429980;1387810017;mircea_popescu;how is this nonsense news ? 429981;1387810038;mircea_popescu;next you'll be quoting bitcoin foundation, bitcoin magazine and #bitcoin-dev. 429982;1387810057;KRS|Gotyawallet;heh ya you right 429983;1387810124;KRS|Gotyawallet;anyway.. 429984;1387810162;KRS|Gotyawallet;i was talking to jurov about a cool project worth looking into using global conciousness project data to compute favorable odds for betting on sites like just dice 429985;1387810172;KRS|Gotyawallet;ill let you know how it goes if you are interested 429986;1387810259;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.00293 = 1.465 BTC [-] 429987;1387810566;ThickAsThieves;https://blockchain.info/charts/bitcoin-days-destroyed?timespan=120days 429988;1387810567;ozbot;Bitcoin Bitcoin Days Destroyed 429989;1387810589;ThickAsThieves;http://bitbet.us/bet/634/bitcoin-days-destroyed-will-surpass-previous-record-before/ 429990;1387810590;ozbot;BitBet - Bitcoin days destroyed will surpass previous record before March 2014 429991;1387810626;ThickAsThieves;the end is nigh! 429992;1387810686;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 205 @ 0.024 = 4.92 BTC [-] 429993;1387810930;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9950 @ 0.00084369 = 8.3947 BTC [-] {3} 429994;1387810937;ThickAsThieves;here's the all-time link 429995;1387810938;ThickAsThieves;https://blockchain.info/charts/bitcoin-days-destroyed?timespan=all&showDataPoints=false&daysAverageString=1&show_header=true&scale=0&address= 429996;1387810939;ozbot;Bitcoin Bitcoin Days Destroyed 429997;1387810944;ThickAsThieves;i assume the bet is now closed 429998;1387811145;mircea_popescu;not like anyone had bet. 429999;1387811150;mircea_popescu;i guess nobody gives a shit about that 430000;1387811164;ThickAsThieves;indeed 430001;1387811174;ThickAsThieves;i'm unclear whether BDD matters 430002;1387811188;mircea_popescu;it's a vague measure of nothing in particular 430003;1387811201;mircea_popescu;you know, like nielsen ratings / website traffic stats / us inflation 430004;1387811226;ThickAsThieves;the rainwater of advertisers 430005;1387811236;ThickAsThieves;er, for advertisers 430006;1387811296;ThickAsThieves;maybe fertilizer would be more apporiate 430007;1387811540;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 423 @ 0.00100817 = 0.4265 BTC [-] {4} 430008;1387812028;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 2863 @ 0.00040269 = 1.1529 BTC [-] {11} 430009;1387812237;monolithik;so I was recently reading nick szabo's bgold article. 430010;1387812295;monolithik;and I wondered, who is this guy? Ignoring the question of whether he is satoshi or not, who is he? Other than his website and blog, he's basically a ghost online 430011;1387812326;monolithik;I found a conference on smart contracts that he supposedly spoke at, but not much else 430012;1387812336;mircea_popescu;he is a very smart anthropologist 430013;1387812338;monolithik;but then it gets stranger: http://w2.eff.org/Net_culture/Folklore/Humor/squish.hoax 430014;1387812343;mircea_popescu;with a bunch of oblique interests. 430015;1387812364;monolithik;As far back as 1994 on the cypherpunk mailing list, people questioned whether szabo was a real person 430016;1387812373;monolithik;"The Szabo tentacle is one of the most persistent of all. Even after" 430017;1387812373;monolithik;being exposed the `mother monster' continues to post, because a` 430018;1387812374;monolithik;fairly significant reputation investment has been established under 430019;1387812374;monolithik;the name. Has strong interest in digital cash. Has admitted to 430020;1387812378;monolithik;knowledge of fake name use. Probably a T.C.May tentacle. 430021;1387812390;truffles;having weird interests gets ppl interested in u nowadays hmmm 430022;1387812395;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.31399797 BTC [+] 430023;1387812498;dexX7;well, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=381045.0 430024;1387812521;monolithik;I originally thought he was probably real and just very careful about his online presence, but those old cypherpunk emails kind of weird me out. 430025;1387812562;truffles;guess u dont like tentacle porn :D 430026;1387812574;ThickAsThieves;http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/outrageous-hsbc-settlement-proves-the-drug-war-is-a-joke-20121213 430027;1387812574;ozbot;Outrageous HSBC Settlement Proves the Drug War is a Joke | | Rolling Stone 430028;1387812601;monolithik;i mean, for a GWU law professor, its quite strange that there is almost no record of his existence. 430029;1387812614;mircea_popescu;monolithik a better question would be, why;d you give a shit ? 430030;1387812616;ThickAsThieves;"Though this was not stated explicitly, the government's rationale in not pursuing criminal prosecutions against the bank was apparently rooted in concerns that putting executives from a "systemically important institution" in jail for drug laundering would threaten the stability of the financial system... 430031;1387812649;ThickAsThieves;banks be untouchable yo 430032;1387812663;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves it's not a joke, it's just there to control poor people. 430033;1387812667;monolithik;to be honest, no idea, I 430034;1387812673;mircea_popescu;these aren't poor people, and therefore unrelated. 430035;1387812683;monolithik;think I just went a bit too deep down the rabbit hole. 430036;1387812708;mircea_popescu;also, what the fascist media claims and what the reality is divergest vastly. 430037;1387812742;mircea_popescu;the usg insists to bother foreign merchants with "regulation". this is one step away from everyone just sending it packing. so it agreed to stfu and save some face. 430038;1387812755;mircea_popescu;hardly anything else than proof as to how the usg is impotent and pointless. 430039;1387812856;ThickAsThieves;why is HSBC paying anything at all then? 430040;1387812883;mircea_popescu;they're paying dollars. 430041;1387812886;mircea_popescu;stuff's worthless anyway. 430042;1387812889;ThickAsThieves;heh 430043;1387812920;mircea_popescu;if brauer had actually asked for cocaine... it'd have been rejected. 430044;1387812927;ThickAsThieves;you dont like how we do business, fine we dont want your money 430045;1387812946;mircea_popescu;more like "you think anyone asked you ? shut up and get out of my office" 430046;1387813065;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 26 @ 0.02419615 = 0.6291 BTC [+] {3} 430047;1387813074;mircea_popescu;"There is no reason why the Justice Department couldn't have snatched up everybody at HSBC involved with the trafficking, prosecuted them criminally, and worked with banking regulators to make sure that the bank survived the transition to new management." 430048;1387813076;mircea_popescu;herp. 430049;1387813091;mircea_popescu;after the strauss debacle, the us as much as trying this will result in the respective agents being shot on the spot. 430050;1387813171;Nick_Szabo;money laundering is a human right! 430051;1387813193;mircea_popescu;property is the first and only right. 430052;1387813202;mircea_popescu;legal fiction may not impede on that. 430053;1387813226;truffles;that article is pretty crazy, how does one maintain law n order if everyone's corrupt! 430054;1387813247;Nick_Szabo;one redefineds corrupt 430055;1387813248;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.31399 BTC [-] 430056;1387813261;mircea_popescu;or "law and order" 430057;1387813301;asciilifeform;j.e.hoover: 'justice is incidental to law and order.' 430058;1387813431;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.31398998 BTC [-] 430059;1387813492;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1696 @ 0.00309911 = 5.2561 BTC [+] {2} 430060;1387813557;mircea_popescu;i seriously wonder at the degree of delusion us press must be belabouring under, to imagine saying " would threaten the stability of the financial system" does not immediately and transparently mapped to "they told us they will fuck us up, permanently. we believed them, because they had a point." 430061;1387813574;mircea_popescu;s/does/is 430062;1387813642;jurov;anyone who does not operate under delusion gets their computers shredded (like guardian) or worse 430063;1387813657;mircea_popescu;i guess. 430064;1387813667;asciilifeform;'X can also have problems.' 430065;1387813685;mircea_popescu;i guess i'm just used to much grittier new yorkers 430066;1387813705;mircea_popescu;the current crop mostly sounds like they've crawled out of a hipster's arse. 430067;1387813742;mircea_popescu;o wait, that was the rolling stones not the new yorker 430068;1387813744;mircea_popescu;never mind. 430069;1387813797;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 4705 @ 0.001 = 4.705 BTC 430070;1387813912;KRS|Gotyawallet;pfft. i dont pay that stuff no mind. 430071;1387813919;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.05 = 0.45 BTC [+] 430072;1387813962;KRS|Gotyawallet;so like i was thinking of someplace to flee to when the U.S. takes a shit..somlia or some third world country a nigga like me could be living well 430073;1387813993;KRS|Gotyawallet;this is teh lulz https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BcHsuW3CYAADDh2.jpg 430074;1387814019;truffles;u prob wont be able to leave by then 430075;1387814039;Nick_Szabo;NY Times sorta does article on CloudHashing.com http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2013/12/21/into-the-bitcoin-mines/ 430076;1387814058;KRS|Gotyawallet;I have bitcoin. There's a line for us. 430077;1387814110;asciilifeform;amazing business model! 1) accept u.s. refugees 2) rectothermal cryptoanalysis 3) profit! 430078;1387814110;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 430079;1387814126;Nick_Szabo;this article seems dangerous to me in that it wil help Cloudhashing sell more PMBs 430080;1387814144;KRS|Gotyawallet;lol! at first glance it looks like those contracts will never make roi 430081;1387814156;Nick_Szabo;evidenced here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=382154.msg1521109;topicseen#new 430082;1387814180;KRS|Gotyawallet;ever 430083;1387814186;KRS|Gotyawallet;its almost folly 430084;1387814210;deadweasel;white house flailing: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/22/us/white-house-tries-to-prevent-judge-from-ruling-on-surveillance-efforts.html?_r=0 430085;1387814468;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11950 @ 0.0008454 = 10.1025 BTC [+] {3} 430086;1387814778;Nick_Szabo;but without secrets people will know the truth! 430087;1387814956;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1000 @ 0.0004 = 0.4 BTC [-] {2} 430088;1387815078;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 150 @ 0.00313332 = 0.47 BTC [+] {2} 430089;1387815505;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 348 @ 0.00317397 = 1.1045 BTC [+] {7} 430090;1387816359;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 25498 @ 0.00012 = 3.0598 BTC [+] 430091;1387816420;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 300000 @ 0.00012 = 36 BTC [+] 430092;1387816481;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 150000 @ 0.00012 = 18 BTC [+] 430093;1387816542;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 120000 @ 0.00012 = 14.4 BTC [+] 430094;1387816664;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 30000 @ 0.00012 = 3.6 BTC [+] 430095;1387816680;Nick_Szabo;http://gizmodo.com/crazy-hacker-wants-to-save-bitcoin-by-blasting-a-cubesa-1487464486 430096;1387816681;ozbot;Crazy Hacker Wants to Save Bitcoin by Blasting a CubeSat into Space 430097;1387816684;Nick_Szabo;crazy hacker? 430098;1387816766;mikaeldice;Everyone who owns bitcoin is a 'crazy hacker', didn't you know? 430099;1387816908;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 100000 @ 0.00012 = 12 BTC [+] 430100;1387816981;Rulother;amazing hackers 430101;1387816981;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 430102;1387817056;asciilifeform;;;later tell mircea_popescu boards are here! 430103;1387817056;gribble;The operation succeeded. 430104;1387817091;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 100000 @ 0.00012 = 12 BTC [+] 430105;1387817138;pankkake;skateboards? (hackers' number one accessory) 430106;1387817152;assbot;[MPEX] [O] [O.USD.C065N] 4 @ 0.04544855 = 0.1818 BTC [-] 430107;1387817213;assbot;[MPEX] [O] [O.USD.P065N] 4 @ 0.06218201 = 0.2487 BTC 430108;1387817283;mikaeldice;Could be planks for a pirate ship 430109;1387817335;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 100000 @ 0.00012 = 12 BTC [+] 430110;1387817396;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.31399499 = 0.628 BTC [+] {2} 430111;1387817409;Apocalyptic;pankkake, hackers != teens 430112;1387817537;pankkake;I was joking about media stereotypes (and the suberb movie Hackers) 430113;1387817813;kakobrekla;kraken has skateboards 430114;1387817867;pankkake;not bitstamp? 430115;1387817970;kakobrekla;those two have teslas or something 430116;1387818007;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.31550001 BTC [+] 430117;1387818017;pankkake;electric skateboards 430118;1387818024;pankkake;they have the skateboard age at least 430119;1387818402;nubbins`;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-12-2013#430051 430120;1387818404;nubbins`;^ what? 430121;1387818404;ozbot;#bitcoin-assets log 430122;1387818433;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.3157 = 1.5785 BTC [+] {3} 430123;1387818513;Nick_Szabo;mp aint here to elaborate 430124;1387818520;Nick_Szabo;but surely he's blogged about it 430125;1387818589;nubbins`;seems like a bit of a wank 430126;1387818725;thestringpuller;mp is a poopoo 430127;1387818728;thestringpuller;jk 430128;1387818769;nubbins`;no, i meant the idea seemed like a bit of a wank 430129;1387818783;nubbins`;although i'm now reading some background info on the topic 430130;1387818799;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 51 @ 0.00293 = 0.1494 BTC [-] 430131;1387818820;Nick_Szabo;well its what we do 430132;1387818828;Nick_Szabo;intellectually wank 430133;1387818858;Nick_Szabo;like my invention of bitcoin 430134;1387818863;Nick_Szabo;just a big wank 430135;1387818890;Nick_Szabo;once we get everyone on board, i'll pull the plug 430136;1387818895;Nick_Szabo;then the healing can begin 430137;1387818917;nubbins`;seems like the legal concept of expropriation flies right in the face of the right to property 430138;1387818980;pankkake;why wouldn't it? 430139;1387819016;pankkake;I know a guy with similar ideas (property=everything). gets interesting discussions about exploding couches 430140;1387819095;Nick_Szabo;why cant they coexist nubs? 430141;1387819117;Nick_Szabo;these contradictions are everywhere 430142;1387819127;nubbins`;well, so i have the right to property 430143;1387819139;nubbins`;city says hey, lel, we want to do X with your property 430144;1387819143;Nick_Szabo;the gov also takes life when it sees fit 430145;1387819147;nubbins`;here's a few bucks, can't say no 430146;1387819151;Nick_Szabo;surely the most basic right 430147;1387819194;nubbins`;here in canada, the government doesn't take life 430148;1387819223;pankkake;canada has no army? 430149;1387819235;Nick_Szabo;i like canada 430150;1387819241;Nick_Szabo;wish it werent so cold 430151;1387819257;nubbins`;pankkake: sure we do 430152;1387819263;nubbins`;but the army doesn't kill canadian nationals :P 430153;1387819278;pankkake;oh, totally ok then! :o) 430154;1387819295;Nick_Szabo;i was thinking today about whether the whether never changing in area is related to the people never changing 430155;1387819306;Nick_Szabo;weather* 430156;1387819308;Nick_Szabo;hehe 430157;1387819308;nubbins`;i mean, really, until we got involved in afghanistan and iraq, the canadian army generally didn't kill anyone 430158;1387819350;nubbins`;anyway, pretty heavy lel that the USA enshrines the right to life in their declaration of independence, but has the death penalty 430159;1387819523;pankkake;yet issues with abortion and euthanasia! why not kill everyone 430160;1387819622;ThickAsThieves;reddit is in love with Andreas Antonopoulis lately 430161;1387819656;nubbins`;pankkake: anti-choice crowd says life begins at conception, right? 430162;1387819832;ThickAsThieves;probly depends who you ask 430163;1387819835;pankkake;something like that 430164;1387819864;nubbins`;consider that more than 50% of fertilized eggs fail to implant in the uterus wall 430165;1387819881;pankkake;but it's not easy to define "life" 430166;1387819886;nubbins`;MORE THAN HALF of the "babies" die in the womb fully on their own 430167;1387819896;pankkake;and then independant life. is the baby a parasite? 430168;1387819897;nubbins`;"pro-life" crowd gives zero fucks about this 430169;1387819918;nubbins`;it's almost like it's not about life, but about controlling women's pussies 430170;1387819931;pankkake;I've spent *years* of my trolling career on the topic - not by choice really, just was the issue we didn't agree on 430171;1387819935;KRS|Gotyawallet;its all about dat ass 430172;1387819936;Duffer1;it's pro life until you're born, then it's "fuck you" 430173;1387819941;nubbins`;Duffer1: +1 430174;1387819943;deadweasel;^ 430175;1387819944;pankkake;of course. everyone has an hidden agenda 430176;1387819975;nubbins`;it's almost like having to carry an unwanted baby to term is punishment for being a dirty slut 430177;1387819978;deadweasel;nope, it's in the faq 430178;1387820008;ThickAsThieves;it might be a male control thing in the sense that, 430179;1387820017;nubbins`;their argument is based in morals, just not the morals that you think they're arguing for :D 430180;1387820019;ThickAsThieves;they want to be deciding what gets aborted and what doesnt 430181;1387820023;ThickAsThieves;not the woman 430182;1387820040;nubbins`;tat, might be? :D 430183;1387820052;pankkake;I don't particularly enjoy abortion-as-contraception 430184;1387820058;nubbins`;pankkake: neither do women. 430185;1387820059;pankkake;though less babies is always a win! 430186;1387820075;ThickAsThieves;itd be a crime if some woman killed your baby, or if some daughter deprived you of your grandkid 430187;1387820101;ThickAsThieves;etc 430188;1387820102;pankkake;eh… they might not enjoy it after the fact, sure 430189;1387820108;nubbins`;anti-choice folks like to pretend that women having abortions think it's all a big lel 430190;1387820129;nubbins`;failing to understand that it's a life-altering choice either way 430191;1387820187;nubbins`;consider that canada has no abortion laws whatsoever, and we still manage to have a functioning society 430192;1387820202;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 102 @ 0.00293 = 0.2989 BTC [-] 430193;1387820318;pankkake;you mean no anti-abortion laws? or can anyone be an abortion provider 430194;1387820328;KRS|Gotyawallet;Canada is right on..they might be the only ones who know what they're doing. 430195;1387820334;nubbins`;i mean there are no laws on the books regarding abortion. at all. 430196;1387820340;pankkake;interesting 430197;1387820353;nubbins`;obviously you need to be a doctor to perform one 430198;1387820361;nubbins`;but that's covered by laws about medical procedures 430199;1387820457;nubbins`;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Morgentaler 430200;1387820458;ozbot;Henry Morgentaler - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 430201;1387820535;nubbins`;^ guy performed over 5k illegal abortions before winning a court case and having the laws struck down in 1988 430202;1387820583;nubbins`;20 years later, awarded the Order of Canada for his work 430203;1387820667;pankkake;had 2 kids still. didn't hate babies enough 430204;1387820758;ThickAsThieves;his wife mustve oppressed him from it 430205;1387821172;pankkake;I only use brain surgeons that are in my web of trust 430206;1387821417;jcpham;much trust very amaze 430207;1387821422;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 20000 @ 0.00011998 = 2.3996 BTC [-] {3} 430208;1387821483;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.0242 = 0.242 BTC [+] 430209;1387821666;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 49 @ 0.00329998 = 0.1617 BTC [+] 430210;1387822003;ThickAsThieves;cloudhashing in NYT too... http://imgur.com/ZcnVf9z 430211;1387822032;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00084271 = 3.2866 BTC [-] 430212;1387822093;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00084048 = 5.8834 BTC [-] 430213;1387822107;the20year;Does the baby get a choice whether they live or not? 430214;1387822189;ThickAsThieves;does a sperm? 430215;1387822201;the20year;The sperm's owner gets a say where it's deposited 430216;1387822229;ThickAsThieves;there ya go 430217;1387822239;ThickAsThieves;property 430218;1387822276;the20year;but it isn't a person 430219;1387822278;pankkake;at what point your sperm (or its mutation) ceases to be your property? 430220;1387822335;the20year;and the problem lies that either people are human for a set number of traits, or they are not, and inside or outside the womb isn't much of a qualifier 430221;1387822462;benkay;or we could just bring back the notion that property is the only constant and that humans too can be property. 430222;1387822487;benkay;not a terribly popular stance, but resolves this question about who does what with the newt. 430223;1387822495;pankkake;so all your children are property? until…? 430224;1387822507;benkay;they can feed themselves? 430225;1387822520;mike_c;sanity check: bitcoincharts won't give historical trade data anymore? correct? 430226;1387822524;benkay;i'm sure better criteria can be come up with. 430227;1387822608;mike_c;their docs still say yes, but the api seems to say no. 430228;1387822667;mike_c;like this: http://api.bitcoincharts.com/v1/trades.csv?symbol=mtgoxUSD&start=1386901071 430229;1387822672;benkay;!t m s.mpoe 430230;1387822672;assbot;[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00084048 / 0.00084511 / 0.00085172 (805353 shares, 680.61 BTC), 7D: 0.00084048 / 0.00088221 / 0.00091394 (6297937 shares, 5,556.13 BTC), 30D: 0.00077921 / 0.00086938 / 0.00091394 (15661230 shares, 13,615.68 BTC) 430231;1387822697;mike_c;first unix time is 1387390488, which is pretty far from 1386901071 430232;1387822703;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6850 @ 0.00084535 = 5.7906 BTC [+] 430233;1387822762;mike_c;i will take the silence as "yes, idiot, everyone already knew that". 430234;1387822778;benkay;now now 430235;1387822794;benkay;it's not like anyone in here actually does anything bitcoin-related ;) 430236;1387822800;mike_c;hehe 430237;1387822839;benkay;probably "who knows! nobody in here touches that shit except the MPOE bot..." 430238;1387823252;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 20 @ 0.06969999 = 1.394 BTC [+] {3} 430239;1387823435;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 95 @ 0.00320909 = 0.3049 BTC [+] {4} 430240;1387824655;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 37 @ 0.00293 = 0.1084 BTC [-] 430241;1387824960;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 40 @ 0.02100001 = 0.84 BTC [-] {3} 430242;1387824961;nubbins`;the20year: babies are incapable of making choices 430243;1387824973;nubbins`;and, fwiw, aren't babies until they've been born 430244;1387824998;the20year;and the difference between a baby inside a person and a baby outside said person? 430245;1387825016;benkay;none! 430246;1387825047;Duffer1;oh good, we're still talking about this.. 430247;1387825049;benkay;well, one's intimately attached to the life support system; the other can scream on its own. 430248;1387825085;the20year;Babies can't scream in the womb? 430249;1387825096;benkay;in the womb, noone can hear you scream. 430250;1387825119;nubbins`;babies cannot scream in the womb. 430251;1387825121;nubbins`;(seriously?) 430252;1387825125;Duffer1;hehe 430253;1387825136;benkay;i actually have no idea 430254;1387825138;nubbins`;neither can fetuses 430255;1387825153;benkay;always figured air played a role in the production of sound with vocal cords 430256;1387825157;nubbins`;nod 430257;1387825160;the20year;They feel pain when they are killed, according to all the studies I've seen 430258;1387825169;the20year;And not all babies that are born scream 430259;1387825190;KRS|Gotyawallet;I would if I were born. 430260;1387825191;benkay;the cows i eat also feel pain when they aren't killed right quick 430261;1387825204;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18700 @ 0.00084303 = 15.7647 BTC [-] {3} 430262;1387825340;nubbins`;the20year: got a link? curious to read 430263;1387825392;fiat500;sounds delicious 430264;1387825413;fiat500;protein with a side of agony 430265;1387825486;ThickAsThieves;funny cuz its true? 430266;1387825488;the20year;http://www.gargaro.com/fetalpain.html 430267;1387825488;ozbot;Does the Fetus Feel Pain? Summary of a Presentation 430268;1387825537;ThickAsThieves;thats 3mos though 430269;1387825548;pankkake;do plants feel pain? 430270;1387825555;ThickAsThieves;people abort often at 3mos? 430271;1387825560;nubbins`;no 430272;1387825568;nubbins`;and 20 weeks is 4.5 months 430273;1387825598;ThickAsThieves;he said 12-14weeks likely feels pain too 430274;1387825605;nubbins`;88% of abortions occur before 12 weeks 430275;1387825612;ThickAsThieves;makes sense 430276;1387825618;nubbins`;most after that point are medically necessary 430277;1387825633;nubbins`;the anti-choicers don't like to talk about that tho 430278;1387825675;nubbins`;only 1.5% occur after week 20 430279;1387825680;nubbins`;but ya know 430280;1387825683;nubbins`;HUGE PROBLEM etc 430281;1387825692;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00084526 = 6.7621 BTC [+] 430282;1387825946;the20year;Sadly 80% of abortions could be prevented with free IUDs 430283;1387825989;mike_c;well for the record, they do still seem to be maintaining their all-time list at http://api.bitcoincharts.com/v1/csv/ 430284;1387826015;pankkake;it seems doctors don't want to give IUDs to females without children 430285;1387826030;mike_c;and I'll email them and ask them whether they are pro-life or pro-choice. 430286;1387826049;the20year;Some do, some do not, I know when planned parenthood here in the US offered free IUDs to anyone that wanted them, the rate of abortions in that area went down significantly for quite some time 430287;1387826414;nubbins`;IUDs are a bit more painful to insert if you haven't had a kid yet 430288;1387826421;nubbins`;that said, they're more effective than condoms or the pill 430289;1387826457;nubbins`;relatively inexpensive over their lifespan 430290;1387826460;nubbins`;(3-10 years) 430291;1387826477;nubbins`;and you get to fuck without a rubber. 430292;1387826498;nubbins`;mike_c: ask if they're anti-life or anti-choice instead. 430293;1387826871;benkay`;iud's are tits 430294;1387826883;benkay`;massively reduced hormone load 430295;1387826888;benkay`;targeted delivery 430296;1387827888;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 3 @ 0.04389999 = 0.1317 BTC [+] {2} 430297;1387827972;ThickAsThieves;http://buttcoin.org/merry-bitmas 430298;1387827972;ozbot;Merry Bitmas - Buttcoin - The P2P crypto-currency for butts. - Buttcoin - It's Bitcoins with Butts - 430299;1387827994;ThickAsThieves;"Glad I waited until the last minute to buy everybody Bitcoin for Christmas." 430300;1387827995;ThickAsThieves;hehe 430301;1387828086;ThickAsThieves;http://www.theawl.com/2013/12/the-politics-of-the-next-dimension-do-ghosts-have-civil-rights 430302;1387828086;ozbot;The Ghostbusters Profile In "The Atlantic" 430303;1387828498;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00084041 = 8.9924 BTC [-] 430304;1387829668;jborkl;So, the picture Hashfast twitted - had a metal fork, a tub of popcorn and a case where I could not see a power cord plugged in 430305;1387831365;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 70 @ 0.05 = 3.5 BTC [+] 430306;1387831426;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00084034 = 7.1429 BTC [-] 430307;1387832036;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19698 @ 0.00084034 = 16.553 BTC [-] 430308;1387832341;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1750 @ 0.00084059 = 1.471 BTC [+] {2} 430309;1387832707;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.31599999 BTC [+] 430310;1387832829;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.31599999 BTC [+] 430311;1387832951;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 83 @ 0.0033 = 0.2739 BTC [+] 430312;1387833012;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.05 = 0.15 BTC [+] 430313;1387833134;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.02419999 = 0.121 BTC [+] 430314;1387833687;jurov;jborkl, it gonna work on zero-point energy 430315;1387833724;the20year;That'd be fun 430316;1387835208;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6750 @ 0.00084079 = 5.6753 BTC [+] 430317;1387835452;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.00084173 = 12.7101 BTC [+] {2} 430318;1387836245;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 649 @ 0.0004 = 0.2596 BTC [-] 430319;1387836248;jurov;http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/12/fbi-copyrighted-interrogation-manual-unredacted-secrets lmao 430320;1387836248;ozbot;You'll Never Guess Where This FBI Agent Left a Secret Interrogation Manual | Mother Jones 430321;1387836393;jurov;http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/12/behold-the-worlds-first-digitally-signed-international-agreement/282582/ 430322;1387836393;ozbot;Behold: The World's First Digitally Signed International Agreement - Uri Friedman - The Atlantic 430323;1387836408;jurov;next thing they actually come in WoT 430324;1387836427;jurov;;;rate finland -1 scammers 430325;1387836490;jurov;(fixed) ;;rate finland -1 drunk scammers 430326;1387836611;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00084093 = 4.7092 BTC [-] 430327;1387836637;ThickAsThieves;hehe 430328;1387836719;benkay`;can't get in wot from windows 430329;1387836728;Duffer1_;gpg4win 430330;1387836768;nubbins`;what's windows? 430331;1387836791;jurov;you can use wot with btc privkey nao 430332;1387836808;benkay`;not entirely serious Duffer1 430333;1387836822;Duffer1_;oh :) 430334;1387836826;asciilifeform;in other news, mikhail kalashnikov is dead. 430335;1387836830;nubbins`;yeah, heard 430336;1387836855;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 6 @ 0.02409999 = 0.1446 BTC [-] {2} 430337;1387837221;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16231 @ 0.0008402 = 13.6373 BTC [-] {4} 430338;1387838166;mod6;ahh, wow. :( 430339;1387838258;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 200 @ 0.001 = 0.2 BTC 430340;1387838685;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 700 @ 0.00083951 = 0.5877 BTC [-] 430341;1387838850;mircea_popescu;.d 430342;1387838851;ozbot;1180923195.25803 | Next Diff in 1591 blocks | Estimated Change: 14.0725% in 9d 11h 44m 10s 430343;1387838990;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.31599998 BTC [-] 430344;1387839112;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 500 @ 0.001 = 0.5 BTC 430345;1387839173;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 2999 @ 0.001 = 2.999 BTC 430346;1387839295;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00083948 = 4.9529 BTC [-] {2} 430347;1387839417;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00084254 = 6.1505 BTC [+] {2} 430348;1387839966;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 749 @ 0.001 = 0.749 BTC 430349;1387840272;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 550 @ 0.001 = 0.55 BTC {2} 430350;1387840393;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00293 = 0.586 BTC [-] 430351;1387842284;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2079 @ 0.00012 = 0.2495 BTC [+] 430352;1387842711;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4027 @ 0.00084241 = 3.3924 BTC [-] 430353;1387843443;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0489002 = 0.2445 BTC [-] {3} 430354;1387843992;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00084241 = 3.4539 BTC [-] 430355;1387844428;benkay`;In a paper entitled “Regulating Digital Currencies: Bringing Bitcoin Within the Reach of the IMF,” Nicholas A. Plassaras suggests that the International Monetary Fund is ill-equipped to handle the widespread use of bitcoins into the foreign exchange market, highlighting the inability of the Fund to intervene in the event of a speculative attack on a country’s currency by bitcoin users. 430356;1387844435;benkay`;that *would* be the point. 430357;1387844442;benkay`;https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2248419 430358;1387844443;ozbot;Regulating Digital Currencies: Bringing Bitcoin within the Reach of the IMF by Nicholas Plassaras : 430359;1387844480;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 82 @ 0.0035 = 0.287 BTC [+] 430360;1387844541;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0488101 = 0.4881 BTC [-] {3} 430361;1387844656;mircea_popescu;benkay` exactly. 430362;1387844661;mircea_popescu;pinky ring. 430363;1387844692;benkay`;pinky ring? 430364;1387844729;Duffer1_;harder to bribe 3rd world puppets with bitcoin though, imf may pressure authorities to try to do something 430365;1387844745;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-12-2013#415211 430366;1387844748;ozbot;#bitcoin-assets log 430367;1387844777;benkay`;aaaah. 430368;1387844888;benkay`;D. The Vices of Digital Currency 430369;1387844890;benkay`;1. Uncertainty 430370;1387844895;benkay`;2. Lack of regulation 430371;1387844899;benkay`;3. Network Externalities 430372;1387844907;benkay`;we are so far gone that lack of regulation is a vice. 430373;1387844928;mircea_popescu;not we. 430374;1387844930;mircea_popescu;they. 430375;1387844930;benkay`;this appeared in a conversation about e-cigarettes recently, where the idea of regulating these vaporizing devices was broadly hailed in the room as a grand thing. 430376;1387844953;benkay`;ofc 430377;1387844954;mircea_popescu;the nigger of the future is easily recognised in the present by his desire for shackles. 430378;1387844965;mircea_popescu;many years later these shackles will be presented as a symbol of opression, 430379;1387844968;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00084241 = 3.0327 BTC [-] 430380;1387844970;mircea_popescu;but for now they are in fact a symbol of identity. 430381;1387844979;Vexual;mr plassaras seems to drive himslef towards the solution that the imf should get a fuckton of bitcoin there 430382;1387844994;mircea_popescu;Vexual except it will have to pay for it. 430383;1387845010;Vexual;or member states 430384;1387845011;mircea_popescu;basically the imf is about six months late to the party. real countries mine since summer. 430385;1387845016;mircea_popescu;the eu is hee hawing in winter. 430386;1387845039;Vexual;still doesnt work 430387;1387845058;benkay`;the six month lag won't be that big of a deal in the long run 430388;1387845094;mircea_popescu;IF they shut the fuck up and got with the program. 430389;1387845108;mircea_popescu;except they're too locklin to get it 430390;1387845134;benkay`;too locklin! 430391;1387845140;mircea_popescu;(locklin being the new way to say dumb, as per http://trilema.com/2013/how-to-fail-the-scott-locklin-method/ ) 430392;1387845149;benkay`;oh i get it 430393;1387845170;benkay`;i was appreciating the term coinage. 430394;1387845181;benkay`;doubt it'll stick, but amusing. 430395;1387845222;mircea_popescu;it's a good word, you know ? some countries are landlocked, 430396;1387845225;mircea_popescu;some people are locklin 430397;1387846432;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3105 BTC [-] 430398;1387846533;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/trilema-the-rift-guild/ 430399;1387846534;ozbot;Trilema, the Rift guild pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 430400;1387846643;Vexual;nice horns 430401;1387846670;mircea_popescu;>D 430402;1387847591;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 140 @ 0.00266918 = 0.3737 BTC [-] {12} 430403;1387848445;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 89 @ 0.00221123 = 0.1968 BTC [-] {3} 430404;1387849970;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2505 @ 0.00012 = 0.3006 BTC [+] {2} 430405;1387850275;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1128 @ 0.00012 = 0.1354 BTC [+] {2} 430406;1387850583;netSam;Ne pointers on how to quickly buy bitcoins? 430407;1387850599;netSam;I need some crpytoliquidity fast 430408;1387850621;netSam;And MTgox wants a wire transfer --- 430409;1387850653;Duffer1_;localbitcoins.com 430410;1387850672;Duffer1_;or #bitcoin-otc 430411;1387850840;netSam;does local bitcoin provide any protections for the buyers? 430412;1387850946;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.07333333 = 0.44 BTC [-] {4} 430413;1387851187;mircea_popescu;netSam fast doesn't work for bitcoin. 430414;1387851189;mircea_popescu;take your time. 430415;1387851251;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1444 @ 0.00011022 = 0.1592 BTC [-] {6} 430416;1387851451;netSam;: ( 430417;1387851466;netSam;Thanks! 430418;1387851709;mircea_popescu;if sturles is still around you can probably paypal him some dollars for a little btc dust just so you have some 430419;1387851732;mircea_popescu;but that aside, spend your first months reading. 430420;1387851739;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [7C] 37 @ 0.00310031 = 0.1147 BTC [-] {3} 430421;1387851803;KRS|Gotyawallet;curious, whats your rush netSam? 430422;1387851820;Duffer1_;christmas present? 430423;1387851828;KRS|Gotyawallet;must be 430424;1387851904;mircea_popescu;heard about btc, got excited ? 430425;1387851922;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 598 @ 0.00036033 = 0.2155 BTC [+] {4} 430426;1387851983;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.09439996 = 0.2832 BTC [+] {3} 430427;1387851990;netSam;I wanted to get in on the Doge fever and Scrypt mining on a Geforce gpu sucks 430428;1387852009;mircea_popescu;you're late for that. 430429;1387852026;Duffer1_;ah don't listen to 4chan for investment advice 430430;1387852028;netSam;200% rise today bro 430431;1387852061;netSam;200 % is 200% no matter where you cut the numbrs 430432;1387852090;Duffer1_;it's only a gain if you're not the one holding the bag when those scammers cash out 430433;1387852125;netSam;We'll see 430434;1387852153;Duffer1_;good luck man, i hope it works out for you 430435;1387852530;mircea_popescu;200% is not 200% no matter how you cut the numbers. 430436;1387852552;mircea_popescu;Duffer1_ see ? he knows better than you. 430437;1387852574;Duffer1_;brb buying doge 430438;1387852639;mircea_popescu;lol 430439;1387852715;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.29901101 BTC [-] 430440;1387852898;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 200 @ 0.001 = 0.2 BTC 430441;1387852899;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 80 @ 0.00306385 = 0.2451 BTC [+] {2} 430442;1387853325;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2850 @ 0.00084241 = 2.4009 BTC [-] 430443;1387853508;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 650 @ 0.001 = 0.65 BTC 430444;1387853569;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4948 @ 0.00011 = 0.5443 BTC [-] 430445;1387855277;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.299 BTC [-] 430446;1387855765;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 112 @ 0.00329999 = 0.3696 BTC [+] {4} 430447;1387856009;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.0033014 = 0.1651 BTC [+] 430448;1387856596;deadweasel;;;ticker 430449;1387856605;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 708.627, Best ask: 711.40999, Bid-ask spread: 2.78299, Last trade: 708.627, 24 hour volume: 13797.10364250, 24 hour low: 655.0, 24 hour high: 729.99174, 24 hour vwap: 688.75163 430450;1387857412;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 12 @ 0.02201 = 0.2641 BTC [-] 430451;1387858571;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3942 @ 0.00084213 = 3.3197 BTC [-] 430452;1387858998;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.00084241 = 8.9295 BTC [+] 430453;1387861011;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC 430454;1387861194;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11064 @ 0.00084256 = 9.3221 BTC [+] {3} 430455;1387862048;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 9990 @ 0.000119 = 1.1888 BTC [+] 430456;1387862902;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 276 @ 0.001 = 0.276 BTC 430457;1387863268;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.04999999 = 0.5 BTC [-] 430458;1387864062;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.02201 = 0.2201 BTC [-] 430459;1387865708;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.00084166 = 8.3324 BTC [-] {2} 430460;1387866258;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 411 @ 0.00042167 = 0.1733 BTC [+] 430461;1387866318;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 411 @ 0.00042167 = 0.1733 BTC [+] 430462;1387867709;kakobrekla;kako has been unbanned, forum re-entry post bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67547.msg4116732#msg4116732 430463;1387868251;BingoBoingo;Beautiful work 430464;1387868394;Vexual;clicking those links on his phone in the snow, excellent work 430465;1387868562;BingoBoingo;Garr255 has the lowest trust I have seen on the forum yet https://unsee.cc/makugo/ 430466;1387868628;kakobrekla;lol wtf -1262 430467;1387868673;kakobrekla;when im logged in i see him as +57 or something 430468;1387868675;kakobrekla;in the green 430469;1387868732;BingoBoingo;kakobrekla: I messed with my trust list. I used people's ratings of Garr to calibrate it. 430470;1387868746;kakobrekla;lmao 430471;1387868785;kakobrekla;you enjoy the result? 430472;1387868835;BingoBoingo;The trust looks much more accurate this way. 430473;1387868850;kakobrekla;hehe, good stuff 430474;1387868898;BingoBoingo;Lines up well with other people's results on some people even, with TradeFortress around -350 which is what I hear from other people he is at. 430475;1387869490;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC 430476;1387870268;mircea_popescu;interesting 430477;1387870382;Vexual;whassat? 430478;1387870466;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4193 @ 0.00084055 = 3.5244 BTC [-] 430479;1387870938;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo's recalibration of forum trust 430480;1387871064;Vexual;oh, is that unusual? 430481;1387871089;Vexual;does it happen on wot? 430482;1387871129;Vexual;im coming up on 2 years and thinking of trying wot 430483;1387871221;truffles;what r u doing for xmas vexual 430484;1387871255;Vexual;eating and drinking, and you tuffles? 430485;1387871263;BingoBoingo;Vexual: This is the forum trust system. It's more weird and broken than actual WoT that matters. 430486;1387871268;truffles;same 430487;1387871276;Vexual;i got some pistachios 430488;1387871296;truffles;and then u ate them 430489;1387871308;Vexual;not yet 430490;1387871316;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: The curious trust list (with the second level trust indented) is here http://bitbin.it/XuTrn9hd 430491;1387871369;BingoBoingo;It may or may not be trimmed further. I might also just flatten it to the first level. 430492;1387872286;Vexual;4 metric shit tonne of prawns and a few kilos of moreton bay bugs 430493;1387872402;Vexual;even paleo cats could eat my xmas, excepting the 3 grains of barley in the beer 430494;1387872486;truffles;macncheese def not paleo 430495;1387872669;Vexual;my useless expert system still says its delicious 430496;1387872731;truffles;u prob wont like mine, there's mustard in it 430497;1387872756;Vexual;i eat mustard like i accept bitcoin 430498;1387872771;Vexual;when i can with adjective 430499;1387872796;truffles;well i make a non mustard one also so heh 430500;1387872980;truffles;im off, merry christmass #assets 430501;1387873610;Vexual;fervourousness 430502;1387874000;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JblJ4saVbtY 430503;1387874001;ozbot;Gorillaz... FT shaun ryder - DARE. - YouTube 430504;1387875903;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsBivcKbOGI 430505;1387875904;ozbot;The Streets - Turn the Page - YouTube 430506;1387876688;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.05 = 0.15 BTC [+] 430507;1387877908;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5304 @ 0.00084055 = 4.4583 BTC [-] 430508;1387878396;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15550 @ 0.00084044 = 13.0688 BTC [-] {2} 430509;1387879494;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18800 @ 0.0008437 = 15.8616 BTC [+] {2} 430510;1387879774;pankkake;"I want to Bernankoin 1 million = 0.001 BTC, Regards, Jacky" 430511;1387879778;pankkake;I must be in altcoin hell 430512;1387879923;Vexual;thats what you get for starting a free economics school 430513;1387880126;Vexual;personally i think its a noble endeavour 430514;1387880468;Vexual;if it came fre with hong kong cage housing, the kids migth pay attention 430515;1387880742;Vexual;were you expecting another outcome pankkake? 430516;1387880794;pankkake;I was expecting to be dead within 24 hours 430517;1387880811;Vexual;really? 430518;1387880812;pankkake;+it 430519;1387880865;Vexual;shall i draw some quality management flowcharts for you? 430520;1387880878;pankkake;lol 430521;1387880897;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.049999 = 0.4 BTC [-] 430522;1387881027;Vexual;sometimes it helps to have another perspective :) 430523;1387881230;KRS|Gotyawallet;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJlR6_1aawI 430524;1387881231;ozbot;Tripswitch - Concentric Circles - YouTube 430525;1387881524;pankkake;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=383053.0 doge beating litecoin at being useful again 430526;1387881526;ozbot;Doge Road - DOGE TOR Black Market - Beta Invitation 430527;1387881585;Vexual;lol doge pirate, i wonder if the doge fbi will get him 430528;1387881622;Vexual;is it prome? 430529;1387881834;Vexual;such verbose 430530;1387881873;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.29901101 BTC [+] 430531;1387882225;Vexual;cmon kids don't let prism have a good year 430532;1387882525;Vexual;my pitbull loves angel dust and pcp 430533;1387882560;Namworld;Dread Pirate... Dogebert? 430534;1387882600;Vexual;last thing we need is the fbi to own $20 milly in dogecoin 430535;1387882606;Namworld;Dogbert, is that you going into the weapons and drugs trade and paying for murders, all for the sake of profits? 430536;1387882731;Vexual;dog catcher saw you jumping back into your yard 430537;1387882969;Namworld;This doge thing is blowing out of proportion 430538;1387883020;Vexual;bitbet has dogecoin top altcoin or somesuch 430539;1387883860;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtUVQei3nX4 430540;1387883861;ozbot;Snoop Dogg - Drop It Like It's Hot ft. Pharrell Williams - YouTube 430541;1387884496;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 150 @ 0.001 = 0.15 BTC 430542;1387884639;Vexual;strapping a pineapple to your skateboard and letting security take it is not anything new 430543;1387884696;Vexual;very different from operational security every day 430544;1387884822;pankkake;Vexual: bet is "any altcoin > litecoin" 430545;1387884844;pankkake;there's a few challengers 430546;1387885034;Vexual;oh 430547;1387885086;Vexual;was that your bet pankkake? 430548;1387885185;pankkake;yes 430549;1387885200;Vexual;i like it 430550;1387885204;pankkake;I'm happy it got quite some activity 430551;1387885212;pankkake;unlike the VMC vs BFL bet :( 430552;1387885217;Vexual;link? 430553;1387885261;pankkake;http://bitbet.us/bet/633/bfl-will-ship-before-activemining/?ref=1Eck6cgGzEb9N42CFhcsCBQhZQStoJbHRK 430554;1387885262;ozbot;BitBet - BFL will ship before ActiveMining 430555;1387885273;Vexual;the other one man 430556;1387885280;pankkake;Resolved gain: -0.14838630 :| 430557;1387885298;pankkake;well it must count house-provided bets 430558;1387885309;pankkake;damn you Scarlett 430559;1387885317;Vexual;:() 430560;1387885681;Vexual;the altcoin one isn't very clear on terms 430561;1387885798;Vexual;at the end date huh? 430562;1387885939;Vexual;i suppose maagement are happy enough with the staus quo 430563;1387886131;Vexual;that is to ask, i fanother coin surpasses litecoin market cap before the date, does the bet resolve? 430564;1387886258;Vexual;@ends up@ is almost ambiguous 430565;1387886295;Vexual;but its no, so it doesn't matter 430566;1387886509;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3806 @ 0.00011 = 0.4187 BTC [-] 430567;1387886574;pankkake;if it's before, it resolves 430568;1387886579;pankkake;at least that was my idea 430569;1387886590;Vexual;i would have thpught so 430570;1387886722;Vexual;is there bitcoin two up yet? 430571;1387886875;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3075 @ 0.00010023 = 0.3082 BTC [-] {6} 430572;1387887763;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwLSPZSg4S4 430573;1387887763;ozbot;AC/DC-Jailbreak - YouTube 430574;1387889925;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 34 @ 0.02202 = 0.7487 BTC [-] 430575;1387891511;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00084345 = 4.639 BTC [-] {2} 430576;1387892831;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uP4YUtEDCfQ 430577;1387892831;ozbot;Syllaboliks - Belief - YouTube 430578;1387892975;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7295 @ 0.00084432 = 6.1593 BTC [+] 430579;1387893158;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.29992032 BTC [+] 430580;1387894314;Vexual;arent you busy tonight Graet? 430581;1387894362;Vexual;thats sleigh wont drive itself 430582;1387894425;Vexual;hey nubbins' 430583;1387894513;nubbins`;hi 430584;1387894528;Vexual;whats doing? 430585;1387894531;nubbins`;had a salty, salty tibb's eve party last night 430586;1387894536;nubbins`;getting my head on straight again 430587;1387894548;Vexual;i hear that 430588;1387894590;Vexual;im waiting for some drooling geriatric stinking of reindeer piss to drop down the chimney 430589;1387894624;Vexual;not you graet, the real, badman santa 430590;1387894685;Vexual;wanna do a tshirt collabo in the new year nubs? 430591;1387894716;nubbins`;always open to new projects! 430592;1387894932;Vexual;cool 430593;1387894978;Vexual;i was thinkng my input might be artwork, but ows your supply chain? 430594;1387895010;Vexual;wait arent u busy staying up all night already? 430595;1387895105;pankkake;nubbins` is santa? 430596;1387895113;pankkake;makes sense with the beard 430597;1387895391;Vexual;has he got a beard? my imagination is correct 430598;1387895545;Vexual;just riding a moose with a tripped out tshirt 430599;1387895630;Vexual;pankkake we're going to cahors this summer ok? 430600;1387895659;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 139 @ 0.003 = 0.417 BTC [-] {2} 430601;1387895660;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 22 @ 0.02366999 = 0.5207 BTC [+] {2} 430602;1387895690;Vexual;we'll shoot some bigs and drink boreaux 430603;1387896012;Apocalyptic;pankkake, bernankoin is brilliant 430604;1387896139;pankkake;):) 430605;1387896696;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 7 @ 0.02349999 = 0.1645 BTC [-] 430606;1387897489;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 834 @ 0.00012 = 0.1001 BTC [+] 430607;1387897490;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 30 @ 0.31543142 = 9.4629 BTC [+] {9} 430608;1387897550;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.31653333 = 1.8992 BTC [+] {2} 430609;1387897561;Vexual;http://vimeo.com/15351476 430610;1387897562;ozbot;Hold Fast on Vimeo 430611;1387897611;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 361 @ 0.00309998 = 1.1191 BTC [+] {4} 430612;1387897733;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 15 @ 0.3184733 = 4.7771 BTC [+] {4} 430613;1387897794;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.31999999 = 1.28 BTC [+] {3} 430614;1387897795;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 51 @ 0.00320057 = 0.1632 BTC [+] {3} 430615;1387897855;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 78 @ 0.00128899 = 0.1005 BTC [+] 430616;1387898057;jurov;;;later tell mircea_popescu santa needs to withdraw from mpex :) 430617;1387898058;gribble;The operation succeeded. 430618;1387898132;Vexual;santa is 600 years old, he pokes it in with a stick 430619;1387898144;ThickAsThieves;build the coinmaker pankkake http://imgur.com/3zRdEWm 430620;1387898221;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6366 @ 0.0008419 = 5.3595 BTC [-] {2} 430621;1387898296;ThickAsThieves;coinception 430622;1387898316;pankkake;there's plenty of "devs" offering the service too 430623;1387898334;pankkake;skills required: Java :| 430624;1387898365;deadweasel;coitusception 430625;1387898381;pankkake;http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/23/opinion/krugman-bits-and-barbarism.html 430626;1387898502;Vexual;trilemma? 430627;1387898601;ThickAsThieves;wtf is that article about? 430628;1387898611;pankkake;bitcoin bad 430629;1387898617;ThickAsThieves;are all journalists on drugs 430630;1387898620;ThickAsThieves;christ 430631;1387898654;pankkake;http://www.huffingtonpost.fr/camille-potier/blanchiment-dargent-bitcoin_b_4471438.html "bitcoin, money laundering and crime" 430632;1387898672;ThickAsThieves;he could have just tweeted "It's funny how people value things!" 430633;1387898760;ThickAsThieves;"So it's no surprise the Bitcoin has become the preferred currency buyers of illicit goods such as weapons, narcotics, pornography" 430634;1387898763;ThickAsThieves;lies 430635;1387898795;ThickAsThieves;"Mafias therefore continue to use Bitcoin through the universality of the Internet, how to launder their illicit much safer capital." 430636;1387898797;Apocalyptic;"provient en grande partie d'oprations de blanchiment" // that assurance 430637;1387898802;KRS|Gotyawallet;in that case bitcoin sounds fun 430638;1387898821;Vexual;png is mental 430639;1387899320;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC 430640;1387899363;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4iuGNEdxZI 430641;1387899364;ozbot;Transcendence Trailer #1 - YouTube 430642;1387899544;ThickAsThieves;who are some popular bitcoin personalities on twitter? 430643;1387899549;ThickAsThieves;i'm making an account 430644;1387899557;ThickAsThieves;time to start calling out these journalists n shit 430645;1387899788;Vexual;leah 430646;1387899799;topace;lol 430647;1387899807;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 68 @ 0.002915 = 0.1982 BTC [+] 430648;1387899809;topace;@havelock_inv :) 430649;1387900114;Vexual;why not leak some good info TAT? 430650;1387900246;Vexual;kill leak and scam and make a newspaper 430651;1387900597;ThickAsThieves;i guess bitcoin magazine beat me to it http://bitcoinmagazine.com/9143/krugman-barbarism-baloney/ 430652;1387900614;ThickAsThieves;except they actually took him seriously 430653;1387900643;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1KSNg-REvM 430654;1387900644;ozbot;Soul Train Rose Royce Car Wash 1976 Audio Redone By Dj Cole - YouTube 430655;1387900771;Vexual;even malagodi didnt hop on a plane to see wht gold mining in png looks like 430656;1387900885;Vexual;bitcoin should be able to afford journalists 430657;1387900891;ThickAsThieves;in case anyone is interested, I found a great new twitter account to follow: https://twitter.com/Bitcoin_Assets 430658;1387900897;ThickAsThieves;it's not me I swear 430659;1387901093;Vexual;does carlos mantana drop-ship peruvian flake? 430660;1387901189;Vexual;enjoy prism 430661;1387901195;ThickAsThieves;mostly he just picks up women and puts them down 430662;1387901205;Vexual;thats not nice 430663;1387901418;deadweasel;I do that repeatedly with the same woman. it's great 430664;1387901418;ThickAsThieves;erykah badu is insane https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmWjpfYrihw#t=135 430665;1387901423;ThickAsThieves;NSFW 430666;1387901427;Vexual;oh yeah 430667;1387901446;Vexual;fuck sign in? 430668;1387901477;Vexual;gimme the name of the song sucker, so i can find it on vimeo 430669;1387901483;ThickAsThieves;there's even nani shots in it 430670;1387901533;ThickAsThieves;i dont even know the name 430671;1387901535;Vexual;cmon abby i got u hooked up with prism so you can make obama do you tue videos and shit 430672;1387901602;Vexual;whats the lyrics? 430673;1387901622;ThickAsThieves;incoherent 430674;1387901631;ThickAsThieves;its like some art concept 430675;1387901664;Vexual;new huh? 430676;1387901718;ThickAsThieves;aha 430677;1387901723;ThickAsThieves;it's a Flaming Lips song 430678;1387901730;ThickAsThieves;The Flaming Lips: "The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face" [ft. Erykah Badu] 430679;1387901736;ThickAsThieves;http://pitchfork.com/news/46765-erykah-badu-is-super-pissed-at-the-flaming-lips-right-now-about-that-nsfw-video/ 430680;1387901737;ozbot;Erykah Badu Is Super Pissed at the Flaming Lips Right Now, About That NSFW Video | News | Pitchfork 430681;1387901779;Vexual;fucking netwrork affect 430682;1387901788;Duffer1;lsd just isn't for some people 430683;1387901799;Diablo-D3;I dont see 430684;1387901800;Diablo-D3;how 430685;1387901805;Diablo-D3;some douchebag 430686;1387901806;Diablo-D3;is 430687;1387901807;Diablo-D3;on topic 430688;1387901807;Diablo-D3;for 430689;1387901808;Diablo-D3;this 430690;1387901809;Diablo-D3;channel 430691;1387901831;Vexual;moi? 430692;1387901876;Vexual;relax friend, it all comes out in the wash 430693;1387901896;ThickAsThieves;Diablo-D3, how ironic 430694;1387901942;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3108 @ 0.0008391 = 2.6079 BTC [-] 430695;1387902491;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 32 @ 0.0033 = 0.1056 BTC [+] {8} 430696;1387902596;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kT09wbZ6eqs bought a car? check your bass 430697;1387902596;ozbot;Erykah Badu - Rimshot (1997) - YouTube 430698;1387903833;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1500 @ 0.001 = 1.5 BTC 430699;1387904182;Vexual;http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xubdi4_cypress-hill-rusko-feat-damian-marley-can-t-keep-me-down_music relevant enough? 430700;1387904183;ozbot;Cypress Hill & Rusko feat Damian Marley "Can't Keep me Down" - Video Dailymotion 430701;1387904210;pankkake;lol at the twitter avatar of bitcoin_assets 430702;1387904334;deadweasel;http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/12/bloomberg-anchors-christmas-bitcoin-gets-stolen.html?mid=twitter_nymag 430703;1387904994;kakobrekla;slovenia just put out a guidance for personal taxes and bitcoin. all trading and stuff is as it was tax free, mining is however taxed, on the paper. 430704;1387905005;kakobrekla;ofcourse there is no way of proving anything. 430705;1387905021;pankkake;weird 430706;1387905045;Vexual;thats is weird 430707;1387905077;Vexual;tax the money thats easiest to hide 430708;1387905141;kakobrekla;here is the full url if anyone cares www.durs.gov.si/si/davki_predpisi_in_pojasnila/dohodnina_pojasnila/dohodek_iz_kapitala/dobicek_iz_kapitala/vrednostni_papirji_in_delezi_v_gospodarskih_druzbah_zadrugah_in_drugih_oblikah_organiziranja_ter_investicijski_kuponi/davcna_obravnava_poslovanja_z_virtualno_valuto_po_zdoh_2_in_zddpo_2/ 430709;1387905144;Vexual;oh i misread 430710;1387905193;Vexual;no, i didnt 430711;1387905960;KRS|Gotyawallet;this is for you https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BbxnkunCYAAdxtl.jpg:large 430712;1387906761;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 9038 @ 0.001 = 9.038 BTC 430713;1387907371;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 170 @ 0.002915 = 0.4956 BTC [+] 430714;1387908225;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 3500 @ 0.001 = 3.5 BTC 430715;1387908938;benkay;!t m s.mpoe 430716;1387908939;assbot;[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.0008391 / 0.00084186 / 0.00084535 (247978 shares, 208.76 BTC), 7D: 0.0008391 / 0.00087609 / 0.00091394 (5228596 shares, 4,580.77 BTC), 30D: 0.00077981 / 0.0008703 / 0.00091394 (15649548 shares, 13,619.96 BTC) 430717;1387909093;Apocalyptic;http://www.kimitsuassetmanagement.com/ 430718;1387909113;Apocalyptic;a reddit news feed on an asset management company's website 430719;1387909209;benkay;and ads 430720;1387909220;Apocalyptic;this is gold 430721;1387909229;benkay;"arbatrage and currency exchange services" 430722;1387909253;benkay;"However along with that uniqeness comes risk but with proper management the potential can be marginalised." 430723;1387909994;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9450 @ 0.00083753 = 7.9147 BTC [-] {2} 430724;1387910055;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 814 @ 0.001 = 0.814 BTC 430725;1387910377;deadweasel;it hhurts to read those quotes 430726;1387910773;benkay;can i get marginalized on mpex? 430727;1387910848;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.0033 = 0.132 BTC [+] 430728;1387910931;deadweasel;if you're on mpex, you're already marginalised. 430729;1387911885;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 120 @ 0.00292 = 0.3504 BTC [+] 430730;1387913471;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 2000 @ 0.001 = 2 BTC 430731;1387913654;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8731 @ 0.0008391 = 7.3262 BTC [+] 430732;1387913959;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1200 @ 0.00012 = 0.144 BTC [+] 430733;1387914813;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.32 BTC [+] 430734;1387914996;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3100001 BTC [-] 430735;1387915667;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9033 @ 0.00084568 = 7.639 BTC [+] {2} 430736;1387917863;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.08 = 0.32 BTC [+] 430737;1387918778;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 321 @ 0.00292 = 0.9373 BTC [+] 430738;1387919139;kakobrekla;http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BcQthFvIIAAN9Jd.jpg:large 430739;1387919259;Duffer1;uhhhh 430740;1387919318;mircea_popescu;.d 430741;1387919318;ozbot;1180923195.25803 | Next Diff in 1434 blocks | Estimated Change: 14.8575% in 8d 11h 22m 49s 430742;1387919326;mircea_popescu;;;ticker 430743;1387919326;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 706.20004, Best ask: 708.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.79996, Last trade: 708.0, 24 hour volume: 13549.12490752, 24 hour low: 666.01, 24 hour high: 729.99174, 24 hour vwap: 700.22234 430744;1387920059;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1499 @ 0.001 = 1.499 BTC 430745;1387920913;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00084456 = 10.3036 BTC [-] 430746;1387924024;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5169 @ 0.00084106 = 4.3474 BTC [-] 430747;1387926220;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1063 @ 0.001 = 1.063 BTC 430748;1387926647;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.0008373 = 3.4329 BTC [-] {2} 430749;1387928183;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla http://bitbet.us/bet/683/btc-will-hit-800-before-going-under-500/#c2182 merry xmas :D 430750;1387929453;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 46 @ 0.0032 = 0.1472 BTC [-] {2} 430751;1387930002;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11284 @ 0.00084669 = 9.554 BTC [+] {2} 430752;1387930856;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10050 @ 0.00084122 = 8.4543 BTC [-] 430753;1387935590;benkay;http://www.btcoracle.com/leaderboard.php 430754;1387936407;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 7350 @ 0.00010546 = 0.7751 BTC [-] {3} 430755;1387936834;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 313 @ 0.001 = 0.313 BTC 430756;1387937371;benkay;u guise let me tell you about mastercoin 430757;1387937381;benkay;its gonna distribute your butt 430758;1387937416;benkay;all your butts are distribute but only on mastercoin lolol 430759;1387937791;Duffer1;omgwheredoisendmybtc?! 430760;1387937796;Duffer1;i need to get on dat train 430761;1387937894;thestringpuller;;;bc,24hprc 430762;1387937895;gribble;667.50 430763;1387937905;Duffer1;just need my doges to x2 before i get in on that 430764;1387937931;monolithik;doge to da moon 430765;1387938097;monolithik;seriously though some guy is making an altcoin builder, theres gonna be tens of thousands of them fairly soon 430766;1387938108;monolithik;https://forum.btcsec.com/index.php?/topic/2858-programma-kriptokonstruktor-cryptonit-all/ 430767;1387938206;the20year;hopefully i can get mine up prior :( 430768;1387938233;Duffer1;rentalstarter coin? :D 430769;1387938252;the20year;YEs 430770;1387938259;the20year;Property & Asset backed cryptocoin 430771;1387938278;Duffer1;sounds like bitshares 430772;1387938289;the20year;Yep 430773;1387938312;Duffer1;ah 430774;1387938326;the20year;Pretty similar to how they're doing it, except that there's a extra # of coins per block found that goes back to the 'foundation' ala freicoin. Said coins are used to buy property/investments, which then cashflow back to the coinholders 430775;1387938378;Duffer1;that's interesting 430776;1387938411;monolithik;who controls the 'foundation'? 430777;1387938425;Duffer1;probably rentalstarter 430778;1387938432;the20year;So, then those coins are invested, saved, used to further the coinage. The idea is to have a foundation similar to the bitcoin foundation, but the financing for said foundation would be significantly higher because with each coin that's mined, more go back to the foundation then which invests in things that matter 430779;1387938439;the20year;The BoD of RentalStarter 430780;1387938448;Duffer1;which could be a huge problem in the states unless you register as a money transmitter 430781;1387938457;monolithik;so its like an REIT, but with cryptocurrency. 430782;1387938499;the20year;The idea is that the investments will be 'anonymous' in the sense that the average coinholder only gets a monthly report with profit/loss figures, decisions the board makes, they don't have direct access to the properties. However the directors/founders will actually go to the properties and inspect them, providing reasonable insight into how efficient the businesses are. 430783;1387938511;the20year;Duffer, our corporate attourney has already greenlit it 430784;1387938542;Duffer1;i'm shocked 430785;1387938555;Duffer1;but then i'm not a lawyer so.. :P 430786;1387938576;monolithik;well, I'm just not sure of the gain you get from using the cryptocurrency over a regular REIT. I feel like a coin makes sense when the actual work to be performed is computational in nature, such as verifying transactions, storing data, etc. 430787;1387938591;the20year;Money flows back to the actual coinholders through active buy orders on public markets in terms of BTC/LTC, which then drives the actual coin prices up relative to the typical basket of crypto currencies, providing more value. At some point in the next 5 years, we then would set up a coin exchange where coinholders can exchange coins for goods/services produced from the businesses. It's more than just housing, I want far 430788;1387938660;monolithik;yah, I'm just not sure why you need your own coin to do it. Seems like you could do it entirely with BTC/colored-coins and get the same level of anonymity, without having to maintain your own blockchain 430789;1387938689;Duffer1;and gain the protection of the obscene hashrate 430790;1387938706;monolithik;it just sounds like a normal real estate investment scheme, with a cryptocurrency mashed into it for no apparent reason 430791;1387938727;the20year;easier to get past SEC 430792;1387938750;monolithik;... I'll take your word for it 430793;1387938764;the20year;I'm just in the theoretical stages, the other option is just to issue more shares of rentalstarter like we've done 430794;1387938813;the20year;I think a crypto would do better just due to where the market is on cryptos, many people are getting rich overnight with them, it'd beasier to gain investments that way than begging for people to buy shares 430795;1387938923;Duffer1;possibly 430796;1387938927;the20year;cap rates for #3-#10 is several hundred million dollars, yet few if any of them do anything better than Bitcoin 430797;1387938939;Duffer1;but even patent nonsense is getting thousand btc caps 430798;1387938944;Duffer1;are getting* 430799;1387938951;Duffer1;is getting? 430800;1387938953;Duffer1;ffs 430801;1387938959;the20year;on what exchange? 430802;1387938964;Duffer1;havelock 430803;1387938975;the20year;Hmm 430804;1387938981;monolithik;market cap is meaningless when you float a small amount of your coin, then place a bunch of buy/sell orders at high prices to give the appearance of value 430805;1387938986;the20year;Well in that case I Might consider HL, i'd realy like to fund upwards of $1m on the next round 430806;1387938996;Duffer1;cryptostocks.com 430807;1387938997;the20year;We've done great with RS so far, but banks are being absolutely idiots to deal with right now 430808;1387939013;Duffer1;when are you looking to raise the capital 430809;1387939019;the20year;Next month 430810;1387939049;the20year;we've already had $92k worth of capital raised, relative to USD we've more than doubled it since July, $92k to $193k 430811;1387939056;Duffer1;Ciphertrade is launching beta next month, should be live by first of feb 430812;1387939085;the20year;That's the exchange I really want ot list on , but have had a few guys tell me that it's gonna take too long 430813;1387939134;Duffer1;i know they're finished with penetration testing, but beta was pushed back to sort out ddos protection 430814;1387939162;the20year;If I knew it would be done by Feb 1st I'd wait 430815;1387939201;monolithik;if you're open to issuing some shares via a colored-coin, chromawallet will hopefully be ready to use on mainnet by the end of january. 430816;1387939220;the20year;I'm open to just about anything right now 430817;1387939233;monolithik;http://chromawallet.com/ 430818;1387939245;the20year;My brother is looking at doing a 2nd round at $2m-$3m , so i don't see why $1m would be impossible 430819;1387939251;ozbot;ChromaWallet 430820;1387939271;Duffer1;pm woodtech or benny on litecointalk they could probably give you an accurate timeline for their launch 430821;1387939292;the20year;who's benny? 430822;1387939321;Duffer1;ceo of buy-a-hash 430823;1387939323;the20year;Nevermind, I didn't know he went by benny, he's sitting 20ft from me 430824;1387939352;the20year;he doesn't know, i keep telling him to get me in touch with whomever runs ciphertrade and he never does 430825;1387939363;Duffer1;lol 430826;1387939376;Duffer1;woodtech is kate wood, she's heading up the project 430827;1387939397;the20year;i think i messaged her on bitcointalk , no response 430828;1387939429;Duffer1;she's VERY busy, and pretty crabby, that's why i recommended benny :P 430829;1387939438;the20year;and he doesn't know :D 430830;1387939446;the20year;let me go ask again 430831;1387939454;Duffer1;he doesn't know you're rentalstarter? 430832;1387939466;Duffer1;and you didn't know he'll have a stake in the new exchange? 430833;1387939474;Duffer1;yall need to work on your communication lol 430834;1387939570;the20year;i knew he had a stake, but he never updates me 430835;1387939579;the20year;he's been busy with this red fury/bluefury crap 430836;1387939580;Duffer1;ah 430837;1387939595;the20year;ujdolugfiodufe8uiiusdiuedw 430838;1387939605;Duffer1;you could always do what TaT did with Neo & Bee, offer a multi exchange ipo 430839;1387939612;the20year;Yeah 430840;1387940752;thestringpuller;;;seen smickles 430841;1387940752;gribble;smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 weeks, 4 days, 5 hours, 2 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: wtf bet on the price rising rather than buying more or buying an option (or similar) 430842;1387941653;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00083477 = 3.8399 BTC [-] {2} 430843;1387942019;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.00083379 = 7.4207 BTC [-] {2} 430844;1387944703;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14147 @ 0.00083557 = 11.8208 BTC [+] {2} 430845;1387947387;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2650 @ 0.00083228 = 2.2055 BTC [-] 430846;1387947448;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 123 @ 0.0014889 = 0.1831 BTC [+] 430847;1387954402;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16900 @ 0.00083595 = 14.1276 BTC [+] {3} 430848;1387957330;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00083228 = 7.9067 BTC [-] 430849;1387957818;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 343 @ 0.002918 = 1.0009 BTC [-] {2} 430850;1387958184;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4205 @ 0.00083143 = 3.4962 BTC [-] 430851;1387959953;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200 @ 0.00083204 = 0.1664 BTC [+] 430852;1387960319;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3209899 BTC [+] 430853;1387961478;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3209799 BTC [-] 430854;1387961539;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 13 @ 0.32351881 = 4.2057 BTC [+] {6} 430855;1387961783;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.048999 = 0.343 BTC [-] 430856;1387962332;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 85 @ 0.002917 = 0.2479 BTC [-] 430857;1387963552;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00083683 = 1.2552 BTC [+] 430858;1387967002;BingoBoingo;;;later tell mircea_popescu "Have a translation for your homosexuality article up. Your comment system did not like the full text http://trilema.com/2010/tipologiile-homosexualitatii/#comment-97094 " 430859;1387967003;gribble;The operation succeeded. 430860;1387967456;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6027 @ 0.0008351 = 5.0331 BTC [-] 430861;1387968127;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1550 @ 0.00083396 = 1.2926 BTC [-] 430862;1387969164;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27850 @ 0.00083633 = 23.2918 BTC [+] {4} 430863;1387969530;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9850 @ 0.00083396 = 8.2145 BTC [-] {2} 430864;1387969774;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.305012 = 3.0501 BTC [-] {8} 430865;1387973113;IVANUS;hey 430866;1387973134;IVANUS;Anybody there? 430867;1387973175;IVANUS;Hey . any one are used this graphs http://bitcoin-wisdom.net/ .. everybody say it's Amazing , But i don't know how can i used it 430868;1387973427;monolithik;don't click on that link, IVANUS has been trying the same virus link in #bitcoin 430869;1387973445;BingoBoingo;Ah, sucks to use WIndows 430870;1387973800;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 29 @ 0.2991524 = 8.6754 BTC [-] {10} 430871;1387973886;BingoBoingo;I can confirm IVANUS is just trying to spread a windows wallet stealer. 430872;1387973930;kakobrekla;well, i guess it justifies the anus in his name 430873;1387973947;monolithik;I reported the link to google. 430874;1387973971;monolithik;hopefully you should get a warning in chrome when you try to visit in a few days. 430875;1387973995;kakobrekla;aha 430876;1387974009;kakobrekla;NSA wants to protect its users from backdoors so they can have them 430877;1387974066;kakobrekla;the good news is we are not paranoid, everyone IS trying to kill us 430878;1387974130;nubbins`;hi folks 430879;1387974141;kakobrekla;hi 430880;1387974145;monolithik;nubbins I think you forgot to log in 430881;1387974185;nubbins`;nope, i'm all logged in :D 430882;1387974212;kakobrekla;nubbins` about half yirga and half harrar seems best so far 430883;1387974267;nubbins`;ah, you're making your own blends already! 430884;1387974278;BingoBoingo;kakobrekla: Who uses chrome except the NSA loggin shit logs? 430885;1387974293;kakobrekla;heh 430886;1387974322;nubbins`;little dusting of snow here last night: imgur.com/dtKh987 430887;1387974333;nubbins`;sorry, that may not highlight for some 430888;1387974339;nubbins`;http://imgur.com/dtKh987 430889;1387974339;ozbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 430890;1387974413;BingoBoingo;kakobrekla: I do want to than asciilifeform for his links to OpenGenera and lispmachine videos. I opened the link in the LISP browser and saw spam. 430891;1387974413;BingoBoingo;Assumed it was harmful. 430892;1387974639;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: Looks like a bit more than a dusing. 430893;1387974684;BingoBoingo;Haven't seen shit like that since I was in grad school in the ever so slightly north of where I am nao. 430894;1387974698;nubbins`;heh 430895;1387974708;nubbins`;supposed to be 20cm by noon-ish 430896;1387974713;nubbins`;hm, sounds like the wife is up 430897;1387974736;nubbins`;merry christmas, heathens 430898;1387974811;BingoBoingo;Did anyone else's favored liquor stores give them gifts when they picked up cigarettes yesterday? 430899;1387974959;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.00301014 = 0.1204 BTC [-] {6} 430900;1387975057;BingoBoingo;kakobrekla: I still can believe on the forum trust TradeFortress is only a quarter as bad as Garr255 430901;1387975081;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23375 @ 0.00083092 = 19.4228 BTC [-] {3} 430902;1387975083;BingoBoingo;Maybe one of them gets a mistrust discount for being a child? 430903;1387975311;kakobrekla;lol BingoBoingo 430904;1387975321;kakobrekla;but i think garr is even younger than tf 430905;1387975363;kakobrekla;afaik garr just went to college no, whats that, around 17? 430906;1387975377;BingoBoingo;Well, Garr is definitely around 19-22. 430907;1387975403;BingoBoingo;TF went from 28 when he smelled less bad to being 16-18 after the inputs hack. 430908;1387975414;BingoBoingo;i guess if you average it out TF is still older. 430909;1387975435;kakobrekla;lol 430910;1387975447;kakobrekla;wait he claimed to be 28 first then changed to 18? 430911;1387975461;kakobrekla;or you just guessing 430912;1387975474;kakobrekla;i thought the general word was early twenties 430913;1387975481;BingoBoingo;kakobrekla: I think TechCrunch called him 28 when they reviewed CoinChat as an obligation free way to get BTC 430914;1387975504;kakobrekla;aha 430915;1387975506;BingoBoingo;Then after the hack he claimed various ages that would be of legal minority 430916;1387975545;BingoBoingo;A decade younger than he claimed, back when he was solvent-ish 430917;1387975647;kakobrekla;at least he got himself a silver membership with the foundation 430918;1387975700;kakobrekla;that was the capt obvious red flag not to deal with the service 430919;1387975704;BingoBoingo;Here's the reference to being 28: Coinchats founder, a 28-year-old male freelance web developer based in Australia who (in keeping with Bitcoins shadowy origins) wishes to remain anonymous to avoid any Bitcoin associated drama or the threat of doxxing, tells TechCrunch the service has been up and running for about five months. -> http://techcrunch.com/2013/08/31/coinchat/ 430920;1387975752;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.29799999 BTC [-] 430921;1387975757;kakobrekla;did he get doxxed after the 'hack? 430922;1387975813;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.298 BTC [+] 430923;1387975816;BingoBoingo;kakobrekla: It seems so. Not that dox are useful for anything, but someone going by "Mt Dox" is trying to make a name off of this doxxing 430924;1387975832;BingoBoingo;And http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-11-08/bitcoin-site-hacked-founder-says/5078148 There he pretends to be a decade younger. 430925;1387975891;kakobrekla;>TradeFortress, who says he is not much older than 18, does not want to be identified because he is worried about his personal safety. 430926;1387975906;kakobrekla;that wouldnt be a minor any more anyway 430927;1387975924;kakobrekla;or is it 21 in aussie land 430928;1387975935;BingoBoingo;Who knows? May be Australasia is weird about such things. 430929;1387976063;BingoBoingo;Maybe he's an Abbo and rights/ages/responsibility are less concrete? 430930;1387976131;kakobrekla;seems like aussies think 18 the limit 430931;1387976142;kakobrekla;anyway i doubt anything will happen anyway 430932;1387976146;BingoBoingo;Any guessing on his age, ethnicity, or being a dirty Jewess became moot when he signed with GPG his declaration of default. 430933;1387976160;kakobrekla;hehe 430934;1387976173;BingoBoingo;Fuck the law and the law doing things. We'll ostracize him. 430935;1387976191;kakobrekla;who is we? 430936;1387976203;BingoBoingo;We is whoever We wants to be. 430937;1387976220;BingoBoingo;No one has to be we. 430938;1387976226;kakobrekla;yeah but he can just do /nick FotressTrade and make wallets.io 430939;1387976232;BingoBoingo;We doesn't have to be anybody either. 430940;1387976294;kakobrekla;'the community' does not seem to be running out of coins yet unfortunatley 430941;1387976301;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5950 @ 0.00082733 = 4.9226 BTC [-] 430942;1387976302;BingoBoingo;People just have to say fuck webwallets, and people who insist on node.js are lower than rats. 430943;1387976311;BingoBoingo;Maybe he learns a new framework and sneaks a new business model that isn't a web wallet. 430944;1387976362;thestringpuller;who got fucked using web wallets this time? 430945;1387976367;kakobrekla;its been like 4 years, people still get scammed via paypal 430946;1387976368;thestringpuller;blockchain got hacked? 430947;1387976413;kakobrekla;so i dont expect for ppl to stop using web wallets 430948;1387976435;kakobrekla;but they wont stop drinking and driving as well, so thats that. 430949;1387976444;BingoBoingo;Fuck him if e can be identified. If he can't, well he's a new n00b. 430950;1387976493;BingoBoingo;If he iden't then.. well... since default doesn't exist in bitcoin he's still a scammer until he makes people whole. 430951;1387976594;BingoBoingo;Eh, drinking and driving seems like a much safer lapse of judgement than using a web wallet. 430952;1387976618;kakobrekla;i guess it depends on how much you carry 430953;1387976621;kakobrekla;of either 430954;1387976733;BingoBoingo;In the worst case traffic cops have a price. The price of BTC though seems to make traffic cops seem... inexpensive? 430955;1387976850;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 849 @ 0.00082733 = 0.7024 BTC [-] 430956;1387977220;BingoBoingo;What do I know about the 'Murican justice system though? All I have ALLEGEDLY done is solicit one elected official to kill another (emphasis on ALLEGEDLY). Anyone could see that any two elected officials though could be sodomygos and bound by darker forces than a voter could summon. 430957;1387977233;BingoBoingo;(allegedly) 430958;1387977556;BingoBoingo;Everything in my situation seems to be under control though. I am in 'Murica and my skin is pale. 430959;1387977826;BingoBoingo;Why do we have to hurt so much, I can't decide. We are settling the final score. 430960;1387977866;BingoBoingo;For the record: Kakobrekla + Garr255 -1262 430961;1387978249;kakobrekla;so you are telling me im nobody? 430962;1387978252;kakobrekla;:) 430963;1387978277;kakobrekla;its not too far from the truth! 430964;1387978379;BingoBoingo;kakobrekla: I'm not telling you you are nobody. I say you are a good body. Thermos though.... 430965;1387978397;BingoBoingo;HE says Garr is a major body 430966;1387978420;BingoBoingo;Even though he is a hella negative body 430967;1387978464;BingoBoingo;If BTC dies, it will be because of "In Thermos Tards Trust" 430968;1387978520;kakobrekla;dat forum is one of the easiest cash cows around 430969;1387978532;kakobrekla;or at least it was 430970;1387978540;kakobrekla;it might have ended 430971;1387978601;BingoBoingo;kakobrekla: Still sounds like it could be rich for people willing to abandon decency 430972;1387978657;kakobrekla;i was thinking more from thermost point of view but yeah i see what you mean and is also true 430973;1387978774;kakobrekla;i mean, he got kilos of btc from just keepin a forum up and he even fails at that 430974;1387978786;kakobrekla;doesnt get much simpler 430975;1387978802;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.28320001 BTC [-] 430976;1387978844;kakobrekla;i hear ads are not as hot as they used to be now though and id bet donations calmed down too. 430977;1387978856;BingoBoingo;kakobrekla: Well, occasionally maybe the barnacle grows bigger tan some of the whales? 430978;1387978905;BingoBoingo;I doubt ads can match their hottest from when it was TF and BFL fighting for slots, when they should have found sluts 430979;1387978940;kakobrekla;TF and BFL? the real battle was Tom vs BFL iir 430980;1387978941;kakobrekla;iirc 430981;1387978956;BingoBoingo;Donations seems to have gone full stop because the only reason to donate this past year was to scam. 430982;1387979003;BingoBoingo;Come on. TOm was over before Avolon "shipped for some definitions of shipped" in february. BFL is still living the lie. 430983;1387979034;kakobrekla;yeah regardless of that facts there was an advertising battle at the time of uncertanty 430984;1387979057;kakobrekla;sometime early 2013 i think 430985;1387979078;kakobrekla;twas posted here i reckon 430986;1387979091;BingoBoingo;Yeah. The advertising battle was hotter late 2013 though... (fuck that is already late 2013?) 430987;1387979100;kakobrekla;haha 430988;1387979104;kakobrekla;yeah its over. 430989;1387979161;BingoBoingo;B/(asic) vs. BFL was big, but TF vs. BFL seemed, on the forum, Bigger. THen again the forum sucks and continues to suck 430990;1387979203;kakobrekla;it seems i completley missed the latter battle 430991;1387979216;kakobrekla;but i guess you see one, you seen them all 430992;1387979229;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4537 @ 0.00081947 = 3.7179 BTC [-] 430993;1387979238;BingoBoingo;Well, your slanderous soul seems to have forced you into observing an unnatural cleanliness. 430994;1387979254;kakobrekla;lol 430995;1387979261;BingoBoingo;And yes, every forum bidding war looks the fucking same. 430996;1387979540;kakobrekla;its all building up to my new brand name, SSSS 430997;1387979558;kakobrekla;twice as bad as SS 430998;1387979627;kakobrekla;we can ipo and have S.SSSS 430999;1387981064;nubbins`;snakey 431000;1387981730;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.29899998 = 2.093 BTC [+] {3} 431001;1387981913;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 26 @ 0.02201885 = 0.5725 BTC [-] {7} 431002;1387982585;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11500 @ 0.00080464 = 9.2534 BTC [-] 431003;1387983439;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00080897 = 4.3684 BTC [+] 431004;1387983743;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 18 @ 0.27920444 = 5.0257 BTC [-] {7} 431005;1387983804;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 19 @ 0.27612 = 5.2463 BTC [-] {2} 431006;1387984536;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 100 @ 0.00144 = 0.144 BTC [+] 431007;1387984537;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3450 @ 0.0008001 = 2.7603 BTC [-] {2} 431008;1387984719;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 28 @ 0.02342091 = 0.6558 BTC [+] {5} 431009;1387984720;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 4285 @ 0.00132053 = 5.6585 BTC [-] {3} 431010;1387985756;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1100 @ 0.0008057 = 0.8863 BTC [+] 431011;1387986061;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 310 @ 0.00291946 = 0.905 BTC [+] {2} 431012;1387987464;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9350 @ 0.00080649 = 7.5407 BTC [+] 431013;1387988013;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 459 @ 0.00283501 = 1.3013 BTC [-] {8} 431014;1387988806;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5350 @ 0.0008045 = 4.3041 BTC [-] 431015;1387989111;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14725 @ 0.00081031 = 11.9318 BTC [+] {2} 431016;1387990453;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.00080554 = 10.472 BTC [-] 431017;1387990466;pankkake;happy festivus! 431018;1387991154;KRS|Gotyawallet;I can't find my Festivus pole. 431019;1387991636;deadweasel;happy fuckmas? 431020;1387991647;deadweasel;;;killsanta 431021;1387991647;gribble;Error: "killsanta" is not a valid command. 431022;1387991707;jurov;;;gank santa 431023;1387991707;gribble;Error: "gank" is not a valid command. 431024;1387991856;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 997 @ 0.00011 = 0.1097 BTC [-] {2} 431025;1387992954;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7860 @ 0.0008001 = 6.2888 BTC [-] 431026;1387992954;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.049999 = 0.75 BTC [+] 431027;1387993503;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.05 = 0.15 BTC [+] 431028;1387995921;Duffer1;merry holiday b-assets 431029;1387996311;deadweasel;verily 431030;1387998963;mircea_popescu;bwahaha what do my eyes read. so some nut with a ltc denominated pnb is "making an exchange" and that's where the noobdom is all excited to go ? 431031;1387998971;mircea_popescu;you people have what's technically known as a death wish. 431032;1387998977;mircea_popescu;no other way to put is. 431033;1387998993;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.072 = 0.144 BTC [-] 431034;1387998996;asciilifeform;pnb ? 431035;1387999015;mircea_popescu;pmb* 431036;1387999019;asciilifeform;aha 431037;1387999080;mircea_popescu;teh leading british entrepreneur that was born last june and did a... leading green it company. 431038;1387999087;mircea_popescu;it's disease. 431039;1387999099;mircea_popescu;it has to be a mental disease. no other way to explain this. 431040;1387999158;Duffer1;oh ciphertrade? 431041;1387999165;mircea_popescu;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kate_Craig-Wood << check out self-shipping wiki. arguably taaki's is better because at least he's original in his stupidity. 431042;1387999165;ozbot;Kate Craig-Wood - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 431043;1387999173;mircea_popescu;Duffer1 yes. 431044;1387999180;asciilifeform;well, eventually all the coin will be in the hands of people with brains. 431045;1387999196;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform no because they keep making doges. 431046;1387999196;asciilifeform;this endgame looks obvious. 431047;1387999208;mircea_popescu;endgame is at least 20 years away. the fuck im gonna do, that's my youth. 431048;1387999237;asciilifeform;p. t. barnum and carnegie can co-exist 431049;1387999240;mircea_popescu;"Ciphertrade is a fantastic new service that will change the way you work"Ciphertrade is a fantastic new service that will change the way you work.". does that "fantastic" only sound krameresque to me ? 431050;1387999275;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform NOT when barnum thinks he's carnegie and his visitors think they're there spinning the world. 431051;1387999299;mircea_popescu;24/12/13 Countdown reset due to delays, mailshot has copies of screenshots...merry xmas all 431052;1387999299;mircea_popescu;13/12/13 ; Sadly the beta release we wanted will be delayed by a week or so, more details in the newsletter ; 27/11/13 We have the gui wireframes back from designers.. 431053;1387999323;asciilifeform;the furnace still burns, steel still pours, no? 431054;1387999326;mircea_popescu;that's the news. this is how people think the reports of an it project look. 431055;1387999333;mircea_popescu;i have only one mouth and i must laugh! 431056;1387999352;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform no, you're right, i've just gone through five minutes of disbelief. i'm fine now. 431057;1387999388;asciilifeform;the occasional luser falls into crucible; free carbon that day. 431058;1387999393;mircea_popescu;incidentally, i think this may well be why otherwise intelligent people decide bitcoin is beyond stupid. they probably go through this intellectual cycle, "o, let's examine the data re this thing. what's intel got ? o wait, what ? you say what ? did what ? what ?" 431059;1387999401;mircea_popescu;in the end it's just a blank stare with a "wat" 431060;1387999408;asciilifeform;that was more or less my first post on the subject 431061;1387999418;Duffer1;they appear to be making a try at a legal exchange 431062;1387999421;asciilifeform;microscope hammer. 431063;1387999430;mircea_popescu;Duffer1 what makes you think you are qualified to judge whether this is the case ? 431064;1387999446;mircea_popescu;there is nothing more deceiving than appearance. how do you judge ? 431065;1387999452;Duffer1;i'm not even a little bit, never claimed otherwise 431066;1387999464;mircea_popescu;this is the topic of expertise. man walks into a bank, appears to intend to start a business. hoiw do you decide if you finance him ? 431067;1387999469;Duffer1;they 431068;1387999471;mircea_popescu;this is the hardest job in all of banking, credit officer. 431069;1387999472;Duffer1;er 431070;1387999489;Duffer1;they 'appear' to be trying to go legal, but appear is my laymans perspective 431071;1387999495;mircea_popescu;understand, thinking is not a crime. not thinking however is. you can't just gloss over stuff. 431072;1387999504;mircea_popescu;well yes, but your laymans perspective can easily get you fucking killed. 431073;1387999510;mircea_popescu;does a guy in a pink hat appear to be a pimp ? 431074;1387999558;Duffer1;i don't disagree with you, i'm curious what the issue is though 431075;1387999573;mircea_popescu;i wish i could readily explain it somehow, save lots of people lots of pain. 431076;1387999575;mircea_popescu;ask me. 431077;1387999619;asciilifeform;what i meant earlier was, the 'doge' investors are going to do something idiotic with their coin, regardless of what happens 431078;1387999639;Duffer1;doge... investors.... 431079;1387999651;asciilifeform;if not doge, then lolcatcoin, or whatnot 431080;1387999662;mircea_popescu;this is experimentally true. 431081;1387999683;mircea_popescu;Duffer1 you recall the guy a day or two ago with the "200% is 200% no matter how you cut it" ? 431082;1387999685;asciilifeform;but the people doing the fleecing, presumably have a bit more brain, and will do something moderately intelligent 431083;1387999689;asciilifeform;and so on, up the foodchain 431084;1387999702;Duffer1;yea poor guy :/ 431085;1387999768;asciilifeform;the way i see it, it's rather like a farmer lamenting that a rotting deer carcass in his field is being eaten by maggots, rather than himself 431086;1387999782;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform this is an exceedingly difficult proposition. my current belief is that mostly they're stupid in a different way. 431087;1387999791;mircea_popescu;they're time-stupid rather than capital-stupid. 431088;1387999798;mircea_popescu;in the end scammer and scamee make a tuple. 431089;1387999836;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform the farmer is lamenting that the deer lays dead, no more. 431090;1387999853;mircea_popescu;for it is bambi, and bambi's someone's mom. 431091;1387999991;Duffer1;mircea_popescui wish i could readily explain it somehow, save lots of people lots of pain. <<<< perhaps worth another article where my ignorance is yet again immortalized on your blog? :P 431092;1388000077;Duffer1;i hang out in here to learn 431093;1388000127;mircea_popescu;that's fine, but i dunno how. at leasrt not yet. 431094;1388000157;mircea_popescu;but let me expound on the capital/time stupud tuple. 431095;1388000210;mircea_popescu;the sucker, let him be known as s, is in a rush. he has not the time to completely consider things, and this is built on a lengthy historical tradition of the same : he also "did not have the time" to properly consider functional analysis in highschool, 431096;1388000228;mircea_popescu;which he mostly didn't have the time t odo because in junior high he didn't have the time to properly consider fractions, 431097;1388000277;mircea_popescu;and as a result learning fa for him is "learn all calculus from fractions onward", which is easily months of HIS time (it'd be a lot less time for someone a lot more literate, because of the way economies of scale work in matters of the mind. however, this is not him) 431098;1388000302;mircea_popescu;so basically the sucker's life is this escalating avalanche of unpaid time debts which he keeps extending and extending for more and more ridiculous interest. 431099;1388000328;mircea_popescu;the scammer, let him be known as S, has been doing nothing but contemplating, the minutious detail that is otherwise irrelevant. 431100;1388000356;mircea_popescu;for whatever reason, such as having a bad attitude to authority coupled with a duplicitous nature, he has managed to both escape re-education and avoid actually putting his mind to useful purpose. 431101;1388000366;mircea_popescu;he is then stuck, but also unable to admit this to himself. 431102;1388000391;mircea_popescu;and he has no money, or more properly put, he's not making nearly as much as his less clever peers from kindergarten are making. 431103;1388000438;mircea_popescu;s naturally tries to use his relative advantage to defeat a problem, S equally so. together, they make a team. the alleged "theft" is nothing of the kind, teams reallocate resources all the time on common convention, which is hwat's happening here too. 431104;1388000460;mircea_popescu;the sad part of this otherwise heroic arrangement is, however, that it STILL doesn't work. 431105;1388000505;mircea_popescu;capital can be good. minutious attention to irrelevant detail can also be good. both need a lot of central thinking to actualise their potential utility, 431106;1388000516;mircea_popescu;and that's what the scammer can't, fundamentally, have. 431107;1388000551;mircea_popescu;the union becomes pernicious in that s's capital could be useful irrespective of him, but S's mental issues lock s out. 431108;1388000559;mircea_popescu;there we go, i'm happy with this model. it's a tuple. 431109;1388000701;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 40 @ 0.02389999 = 0.956 BTC [+] 431110;1388000761;Duffer1;because s doesn't have time (or taken time to learn), he's doomed to be the s in the s + S = failure tuple 431111;1388000825;Duffer1;equation 431112;1388000848;mircea_popescu;well equally so for S, he's also doomed being part of that nonsense. 431113;1388000898;mircea_popescu;the irony here being that if you take the list of 100+ scammers they - each and every one of them - were at some point "bigger than me", in a particular "media's eye" view of the table. 431114;1388000916;mircea_popescu;but then i'm the guy worth a billion dollars, and if you add their loot all together, you don't get a billion. 431115;1388000962;mircea_popescu;way to turn "more" into definitely less, as it were. 431116;1388001153;Duffer1;thank you 431117;1388001428;Duffer1;how to remove yourself from the equation.. 431118;1388001921;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00063366 = 6.1465 BTC [-] 431119;1388002226;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00063366 = 2.5346 BTC [-] 431120;1388003386;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 187 @ 0.001 = 0.187 BTC 431121;1388003801;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: the scammers who 'appear big' are reminiscent of the well-known factoid of dynamite being considerably less energetic, per gram, than gasoline 431122;1388003812;mircea_popescu;:p 431123;1388003814;asciilifeform;but the everyday person wouldn't suspect it 431124;1388003835;mircea_popescu;hence why it took a \while for fuelbombs 431125;1388003835;asciilifeform;'my candle burns at both ends, it will not last the night; but ah my foes, and oh my friends, it gives a lovely light!' 431126;1388003915;asciilifeform;flashiness has very little to do with actual use 431127;1388003926;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: remember your observations about power plant? 431128;1388003951;mircea_popescu;yeah 431129;1388003951;asciilifeform;$1B, in every major city, and no advertising; no one thinks of it, or hears of it on tv, unless it burns down 431130;1388004300;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7150 @ 0.00062972 = 4.5025 BTC [-] 431131;1388004400;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/the-stuple/ << the treatment. 431132;1388004401;ozbot;The stuple. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 431133;1388004590;asciilifeform;good sum. 431134;1388004610;asciilifeform;also reminds me of orlov's essay on 'fufflers' and their symbiotic relation with the 'victims' 431135;1388004629;asciilifeform;(http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2009/03/welcome-to-fuffland.html) 431136;1388004846;mircea_popescu;fluffers ?! 431137;1388004854;mircea_popescu;you mean the girl on the porn set ? 431138;1388004869;asciilifeform;good 'onion' piece: 431139;1388004870;asciilifeform;http://www.duffelblog.com/2013/12/mikhail-kalashnikov-dead/ 431140;1388004898;mircea_popescu;lmao! re your club orlov : i was persuaded to add a disclaimer to my article, which reads "but before you run to the interpretative races be advised that the money sybol is used correctly in its proper sense, rather than in what mistaken cvasi-definition you might have intuited for yourself, and this use colors the meaning of time too." 431141;1388004911;mircea_popescu;then i follow your link, and what do i see ? "In the unfolding global financial collapse, it is not just our accounts and balance sheets that come up short, but our language as well." 431142;1388004913;mircea_popescu;word. 431143;1388004922;mircea_popescu;it's not the language tho. it's the minds. language is but a cloth. 431144;1388004927;asciilifeform;he was the fellow who introduced me to 'bezzle' 431145;1388004963;mircea_popescu;yeah, i think i read this before 431146;1388004967;mircea_popescu;prolly cuz you linked it. 431147;1388004989;mircea_popescu;"It seems that the Russians are better-equipped to survive financial collapse than just about anyone else. They have formidable reserves of gold and foreign currency to soften the downward slide. " << actually, the romanians have more. 431148;1388005006;mircea_popescu;isarescu squirreled away ~127 tons of the stuff, and that's >6 grams per capita. 431149;1388005013;asciilifeform;possibly mongolia (or some other entirely un-drilled place) is the real champ. 431150;1388005021;mircea_popescu;russia does not hold 1bn tons 431151;1388005038;mircea_popescu;i mean, 1k tons, 1bn grams 431152;1388005154;mircea_popescu;(Perhaps this psychological mechanism accounts for the fact the Anglo-Saxon tribe still has the vestigial word but no longer remembers its meaning.) 431153;1388005159;mircea_popescu;yeah, this article should be linked more often. 431154;1388005198;asciilifeform;mr. o neglects to mention another well-known meaning of фуфло - 'arsehole', specifically in the prison-buggery sense of the word. 431155;1388005201;mircea_popescu;he has a point in that i suspect it's perhaps the easiest way to explain to the layman in laymen terms what exactly is the difference separating "me" or "us" from "them". teh fuffle readily makes sense or not at all. 431156;1388005213;asciilifeform;new prisoner is asked to gamble, he asks what the stakes will be, told: 431157;1388005215;asciilifeform;'фуфло' 431158;1388005218;mircea_popescu;lol 431159;1388005218;asciilifeform;he things 'nothing' 431160;1388005224;asciilifeform;(one common meaning outside the prison) 431161;1388005226;asciilifeform;and plays. 431162;1388005227;asciilifeform;loses. 431163;1388005238;mircea_popescu;did any newbie ever win a cell gambling ? 431164;1388005248;asciilifeform;doubt it. 431165;1388005265;mircea_popescu;easy to stack games, especially when you have the excuse of material scarcity the prison offers 431166;1388005270;mircea_popescu;and also the abundance of time it generously provides. 431167;1388005296;asciilifeform;it is said that the newbie's mistake is always and without exception: playing on borrowed cash. 431168;1388005304;asciilifeform;borrowed -> has to be repaid. in cash, or фуфло. 431169;1388005339;mircea_popescu;basically it's the United Fuffles of America 431170;1388005377;mircea_popescu;this is a better model, they're not so much into socialism per se 431171;1388005384;mircea_popescu;they're into anything that may enable fuffling. 431172;1388005401;benkay;united stats of confidence games 431173;1388005454;mircea_popescu;the old jew joke, which is why trilema has been making the point since the naughts. 431174;1388005456;mircea_popescu;dja know it ? 431175;1388005479;asciilifeform;which one? could be any of 100... 431176;1388005488;mircea_popescu;well let me recount it for the public record anyway. 431177;1388005513;mircea_popescu;Itzhak is a respectable moneylender in the small neighbourhood of Fool's Crossing. 431178;1388005543;mircea_popescu;one day an attractive young widdow that can't repay her husband's debts agrees to put out, like every other day, except with different girls. 431179;1388005567;mircea_popescu;so as to not agress the public morals, itzhak upon living her house picks up a worthless old smoked over painting, and declares it to be the payment for the debt. 431180;1388005576;mircea_popescu;the woman smiles and they part on friendly terms. 431181;1388005617;mircea_popescu;his younger brother hirsz, a respectable moneylender in the slightly larger small neighbourhood of Sucker's Lament visits one day 431182;1388005632;mircea_popescu;he notes the shitty painting, and asks his brother wherefore. 431183;1388005646;mircea_popescu;itzhak tells him the exorbitant sum he has paid, and some theory about its artistic value. 431184;1388005684;mircea_popescu;the next week, hirsz is beating down itzhak's door. for he must have the painting, it is keeping it up at night that his older brother in the pooer neighbourhood should have the piece of art! 431185;1388005693;mircea_popescu;and so he buys it, in cash, for a hefty premium. 431186;1388005711;mircea_popescu;returning the call, itzhak buys the painting back a few weeks later, 431187;1388005734;mircea_popescu;and then in a couple months when he was building a new stable, his brother buys the painting back from him, at yet a heftier premium 431188;1388005750;mircea_popescu;the painting moves back and forth at ever increasing nominal values among the families, as their capital needs dictate 431189;1388005763;pizzaman1337;MP's stories always have me on the edge of my seat 431190;1388005768;mircea_popescu;until one day, a young girl one has hired for the purpose of cleanning the house in between polishing the cock 431191;1388005777;mircea_popescu;accidentally spills potash all over the painting 431192;1388005780;mircea_popescu;which now is no more. 431193;1388005795;mircea_popescu;quoth the distraught brothers "that stupid girl. and what great business we had with that painting" 431194;1388005812;mircea_popescu;indeed. a secure asset of ever-appreciating value, who'd not want fuffel on his books ? 431195;1388005819;asciilifeform;sequel! 431196;1388005823;mircea_popescu;lol 431197;1388005829;mircea_popescu;no scripts are new... 431198;1388005830;asciilifeform;another servant goes on a bender 431199;1388005836;asciilifeform;vomits over the now-empty canvas 431200;1388005840;asciilifeform;another masterpiece is born... 431201;1388005844;asciilifeform;the story resumes from 0. 431202;1388005859;mircea_popescu;you must be careful however, the lynchpin of this story is 431203;1388005866;mircea_popescu;" so as to not agress the public morals" 431204;1388005876;mircea_popescu;this only works in places which have "public morals". 431205;1388005882;asciilifeform;correct. 431206;1388005886;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1363 @ 0.00011111 = 0.1514 BTC [-] {2} 431207;1388005947;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 7420 @ 0.00010708 = 0.7945 BTC [-] {7} 431208;1388005948;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.289 BTC [+] 431209;1388006069;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.049 = 0.49 BTC [-] 431210;1388006149;mircea_popescu;and this story made me appreciate a major point. 431211;1388006159;mircea_popescu;intellectually, the main reason my blog exists is that i hate repeating myself. 431212;1388006173;mircea_popescu;however, i've retold this joke dozens of times, and it seems to have gotten better every time. 431213;1388006202;mircea_popescu;it makes me realise that in becoming very able to preserve through application of technology, we are losing the incentive to re-write and recall, which probably explains why we suck. 431214;1388006230;asciilifeform;just as everyone derisively laughs at 'cut and paste' programmers 431215;1388006235;mircea_popescu;just so. 431216;1388006310;benkay;avoiding social media of all sorts has made me a better conversationalist by giving me the opportunity to tell and retell a story or a pitch, refining it on based on each recipient. 431217;1388006336;benkay;contrast this with people who write jokes once for twitter and are forever doomed to hear "oh yeah i read that on your social whatever" when they want to iterate and improve. 431218;1388006348;mircea_popescu;that part is important. you have to understand your story well enough to be able to contextualize it in different contexts. 431219;1388006355;mircea_popescu;no three ring binder or company policy can help you there. 431220;1388006415;mircea_popescu;in the end, money is an expression of culture. the chase for money in se is not much unlike the making of worthless paintings as a "commercial venture". 431221;1388006422;mircea_popescu;without the attractive widow... 431222;1388006545;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform "Unlike proper retirement systems, which transfer a percentage of earnings from working-age people directly to retirees, this fuffled scheme takes these earnings and invests them in some fuffles" << do explain ?! 431223;1388006559;asciilifeform;this is how it actually happens in u.s. 431224;1388006560;mircea_popescu;is the man insane ?! or am i ? 431225;1388006572;mircea_popescu;no but the other end. a proper system is bismarck's ponzi ?! 431226;1388006580;mircea_popescu;how doth he reason. 431227;1388006590;asciilifeform;they try to talk you into dropping some pre-tax pay into a 'fund', where it turns into stocks, etc 431228;1388006605;asciilifeform;you can't touch it without massive penalty until you're a certain age 431229;1388006613;mircea_popescu;look i know how 401k/iras etc work. after all, we wouldn't have our friendly second market without them 431230;1388006634;mircea_popescu;the question is, what sort of a fool contemplates the notion that direct transfer better, let alone proper. 431231;1388006641;asciilifeform;in orlov's world, a proper system is where you rely on family to feed you in old age 431232;1388006658;asciilifeform;(or throw you through the ice, as the case may be) 431233;1388006660;mircea_popescu;no, he says "transfer a percentage of earnings from working-age people directly to retirees" 431234;1388006672;mircea_popescu;this is the von bismarck model of ponzi pensions. 431235;1388006676;asciilifeform;he's thinking of the slightly less broken soviet machine 431236;1388006678;mircea_popescu;pay 5% all your life, get whatever's there 431237;1388006684;mircea_popescu;how is it less broken ? 431238;1388006686;mircea_popescu;it 431239;1388006706;mircea_popescu;s not less broken. in the russian crisis of the 90s pensioneers bore most of the burden 431240;1388006711;asciilifeform;because it was a straight tontine, without a casino in the loop 431241;1388006735;mircea_popescu;except the politburo spent from the tontine all the damn time. 431242;1388006740;asciilifeform;they sure did. but that was collapse. 431243;1388006748;mircea_popescu;so it didhave a casino on the top. 431244;1388006787;asciilifeform;at some point 'the bezzle' becomes real, the cartoon wolf looks down and finally obeys gravity, goes splat off the cliff. 431245;1388006804;mircea_popescu;i must petition to have that phrase struck. 431246;1388006810;mircea_popescu;do you know how to contact the guy ? 431247;1388006842;asciilifeform;his firs name dot last name at gmail, i think 431248;1388006860;mircea_popescu;well what are those lol 431249;1388006866;asciilifeform;sometimes he answers. wrote to him about stirling engines once 431250;1388006873;Duffer1;this orlov article reads a lot like our discussion on real estate rent 431251;1388006885;asciilifeform;dmitry orlov 431252;1388006888;mircea_popescu;a ty 431253;1388006901;asciilifeform;he lives on a ship, and doesn't have net access every day 431254;1388006905;asciilifeform;so he might take a while. 431255;1388006922;Duffer1;"Ideally, the initial transaction serves as the basis of a permanent arrangement, with the victim roped into an installment plan, which keeps the payments flowing even after the fuffle itself has crumbled into a pile of dust" 431256;1388006951;mircea_popescu;must have ipads 431257;1388006986;asciilifeform;orlov's point wasn't that ussr was a paradise, but that it was a more honest sort of open air prison than u.s. 431258;1388007009;asciilifeform;fewer pretenses at 'you own your home - went broke? now get out' 431259;1388007045;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 569 @ 0.001 = 0.569 BTC 431260;1388007066;mircea_popescu;but calling it proper ? 431261;1388007068;asciilifeform;since ussr never really had a working economy, economic collapse wasn't the apocalyptic disaster it would be in a civilized country. 431262;1388007071;mircea_popescu;it's one tyhing to say better 431263;1388007096;mircea_popescu;haha, i wouldn't go as far as to say that the litmus for "working economy" is "consumer sector" tbh 431264;1388007110;asciilifeform;it's more like: you go to a basement casino, and instead of letting you play, they club you over the head and take yer wallet 431265;1388007119;mircea_popescu;obviously the consumer thinks so, clearly visible i nthings such as "bitcoin must be a sort of supermarket payment option to really exist" 431266;1388007129;asciilifeform;and then you say to a chum: 'unlike a proper casino, where the house keeps X, they...' 431267;1388007164;mircea_popescu;but no, he said the converse : unlike a fluffy casino, where they let you play, a proper casino takes your clothes and then makes you put out a show for their porn franchise. 431268;1388007187;mircea_popescu;i mean i guess it's proper in the sense of "proper fucked" 431269;1388007257;asciilifeform;orlov's painfully-repeated point is that systems with infinite growth assumptions baked in are worse than straight theft 431270;1388007288;mircea_popescu;"It may be clear to us that fuffles must be eradicated." < ha! you can't eradicate these any more than you can eradicate moles 431271;1388007301;mircea_popescu;if yo uget them rare enough courtier chicks will start adding mole stickers to their cleavage 431272;1388007316;asciilifeform;the best you can do is to put up nets and keep them out, like mosquitos 431273;1388007328;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform but the direct transfer system has infinite population growth baked right in 431274;1388007343;asciilifeform;sure does. 431275;1388007353;asciilifeform;i don't disagree with your objection re: 'proper retirement' 431276;1388007373;mircea_popescu;terry gilliam's mole cartoon is eerily prescient. 431277;1388007379;asciilifeform;orlov is a reluctant, dour sort of 'statist', he sees mega-empires as inevitable, but likewise their collapse. 431278;1388007412;asciilifeform;hence his discussions re: how, when they fuck the populace, using some form of lube would be proper and decent. 431279;1388007453;mircea_popescu;mega empires are quite evitable. 431280;1388007461;mircea_popescu;i think the schelling point actually is warlordoms 431281;1388007472;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3630 @ 0.00063366 = 2.3002 BTC [+] 431282;1388007480;mircea_popescu;this mega empire business is a momentary distraction. 431283;1388007503;asciilifeform;orlov's prediction is that warlordoms will become schelling points again once various energy-hungry weapons systems stop being affordable 431284;1388007531;mircea_popescu;said weapons (if you mean the atomic bomb) are already useless. 431285;1388007531;asciilifeform;he plays with this in his '5 stages' book. 431286;1388007542;mircea_popescu;they rely on some very convenient separations that are no longer factual. 431287;1388007545;asciilifeform;the nukes rust, yes. the airplanes still work, for the time being. 431288;1388007552;mircea_popescu;no but i mean, bomb what ? 431289;1388007574;asciilifeform;invading flotillas, i think, is the remaining scenario 431290;1388007584;mircea_popescu;and invade what ? 431291;1388007608;mircea_popescu;the only place where that works is fuckland, and fuckland a) doesn't care and b) is tougher than you and will fuck you. 431292;1388007611;asciilifeform;china/siberian oil; whoever/american carcasses for sausage ? 431293;1388007617;mircea_popescu;afghanistan showed both points to both "megaempires" 431294;1388007636;mircea_popescu;i would not invade the us atm even if they paid me. 431295;1388007640;mircea_popescu;you get stuck administering it. 431296;1388007651;mircea_popescu;baghdad has cost in peace more than it cost in war. 431297;1388007674;Duffer1;but but freedom 431298;1388007681;asciilifeform;that's because they stuck with the 'hearts and minds' fluff, instead of 'remove unwanted bioforms and build drill platforms.' 431299;1388007682;Duffer1;shit where's my fuffle 431300;1388007688;Duffer1;brb 431301;1388007702;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform you're very much mistaken. this is the us army propaganda as to why they failed. 431302;1388007710;mircea_popescu;in point of fact they stguck with no such fluff. 431303;1388007720;mircea_popescu;they simply did not have the ability to do any better. 431304;1388007730;asciilifeform;surely they still have at least one working neutron bomb in a warehouse somewhere. 431305;1388007739;mircea_popescu;the equation is quite simple : you kill more bioforms, you get your convoys bombed more. 431306;1388007746;mircea_popescu;tyhere's a maximum bombing of convoys you can bear, 431307;1388007751;mircea_popescu;and that limits how many bioforms you kill. 431308;1388007754;Duffer1;i'm pretty sure they didn't intend to do any better, there was no plan other than 'go there' 431309;1388007771;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform and then how much do you pay haliburton to clean up and run the platforms ? 431310;1388007788;mircea_popescu;Duffer1 how'd you know if there was ? plans are usually secret. 431311;1388007802;Duffer1;the end result speaks for itself imo 431312;1388007809;asciilifeform;probably cheaper than what they actually ended up doing (being clobbered for nothing) 431313;1388007822;mircea_popescu;the end result of a failure is not indicative of the absence of a plan more than of the poor quality of a present plan tho. 431314;1388007832;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform only cheaper on a % basis. 431315;1388007841;mircea_popescu;but there's a limit on how much cost you can bear, which caps your results 431316;1388007843;mircea_popescu;in this case at 0. 431317;1388007861;mircea_popescu;war is always a game of "there's a limit of how much X you can bear" 431318;1388007867;asciilifeform;dollar for dollar, you'd get more energy by drilling at sea. the point, i think, was to display force 431319;1388007874;asciilifeform;similar to soviet invasion of afghanistan, actually 431320;1388007875;Duffer1;you're not wrong, but they didn't secure the peace, they didn't even secure the oil fields right away 431321;1388007896;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform and that display failed. similarly, in both cases, for the same reason. 431322;1388007906;mircea_popescu;it showed force in the sense of making everyone realise they must be killed. 431323;1388007914;Duffer1;it seems like they created a debacle for the sake of being evil 431324;1388007916;mircea_popescu;it did not show force in the sense of making anyone likely to not try. 431325;1388007919;asciilifeform;afghan, 'graveyard of empires', etc 431326;1388007949;mircea_popescu;basically our colonies, be their russia or the us, being a little new, still have to learn on own skin the history of medieval europe. 431327;1388007958;mircea_popescu;there's shows of force and then there's shows of force. ask d'este. 431328;1388007968;asciilifeform;one russian writer, who grunted in a., opined that 'we were the kid that lifts the weight bar, pushes it up a little, then crushed underneath. afghan is a weight bar.' 431329;1388007984;mircea_popescu;forza managed to anihilate his entire house in a generation by simply not knowing the difference. 431330;1388009058;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 145 @ 0.04999999 = 7.25 BTC [+] {2} 431331;1388009302;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00063773 = 6.2498 BTC [+] {2} 431332;1388009324;copumpkin;man, mpoe isn't doing as well as it was 431333;1388009377;mircea_popescu;hey look at that, all the way to summer. 431334;1388009668;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28576 @ 0.00064345 = 18.3872 BTC [+] {2} 431335;1388009729;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00069376 = 9.1576 BTC [+] {2} 431336;1388009828;benkay;does mpoe track the coins or do the coins track mpoe? 431337;1388009831;benkay;questions for the ages. 431338;1388009898;mircea_popescu;i dunno man. i am looking forward to when i'm very old someone finally figuring this shit out and writing a clever paper. 431339;1388009969;copumpkin;I guess mpoe order book isn't very deep 431340;1388009973;copumpkin;so price isn't very meaningful 431341;1388009996;mircea_popescu;!t m s.mpoe 431342;1388009996;assbot;[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00062972 / 0.00078418 / 0.00084704 (320984 shares, 251.71 BTC), 7D: 0.00062972 / 0.00086521 / 0.00091394 (4812961 shares, 4,164.25 BTC), 30D: 0.00062972 / 0.00086925 / 0.00091394 (15872706 shares, 13,797.37 BTC) 431343;1388010007;mircea_popescu;well... the spot price no. the averages however... 431344;1388010644;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 80 @ 0.02390124 = 1.9121 BTC [+] {3} 431345;1388012230;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.2900002 = 0.58 BTC [+] 431346;1388012291;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.2900002 = 0.58 BTC [+] 431347;1388012582;mircea_popescu;in unrelated news, bitcoin's rift guild is #4 largest on teh server. 431348;1388012652;Duffer1;wtb fallout mmo 431349;1388012657;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 37 @ 0.05 = 1.85 BTC [+] 431350;1388013760;damian666__;Good comparison chart (btce vs. gox vs. btcchina) at http://btc.2097.com 431351;1388013797;Duffer1;yes damian666 i'll click your link 431352;1388015158;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.28327454 = 3.116 BTC [-] {3} 431353;1388015356;benkay;much technical analysis 431354;1388015457;kakobrekla;very money 431355;1388015588;thestringpuller;much crypto 431356;1388015876;benkay;!t m s.mpoe 431357;1388015877;assbot;[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00062972 / 0.00078254 / 0.00084704 (311715 shares, 243.93 BTC), 7D: 0.00062972 / 0.00086429 / 0.00091394 (4712687 shares, 4,073.17 BTC), 30D: 0.00062972 / 0.00086926 / 0.00091394 (15871006 shares, 13,796.03 BTC) 431358;1388015886;benkay;!l m s.mpoe 431359;1388015886;assbot;Last trade for S.MPOE on MPEX was at 0.00069376 BTC [+] 431360;1388016134;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 59935 @ 0.00011919 = 7.1437 BTC [-] {2} 431361;1388018343;kleeck0;.d 431362;1388018343;ozbot;1180923195.25803 | Next Diff in 1246 blocks | Estimated Change: 14.6024% in 7d 9h 15m 11s 431363;1388018441;benkay;;;ticker --market btcavg 431364;1388018442;gribble;BitcoinAverage BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 696.48, Best ask: 697.48, Bid-ask spread: 1.00000, Last trade: 697.07, 24 hour volume: 28078.07, 24 hour low: None, 24 hour high: None, 24 hour vwap: 667.45 431365;1388019306;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.00275213 = 0.5504 BTC [-] {7} 431366;1388019395;benkay;http://doges.org/index.php/topic,5283.0.html 431367;1388019396;ozbot;Dogewallet hacked 431368;1388019555;Duffer1;sigh 431369;1388019794;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3350 @ 0.00079807 = 2.6735 BTC [+] 431370;1388020165;thestringpuller;people are hacking doge coin wallets already? 431371;1388020259;Duffer1;could just be fud to crash price 431372;1388020263;Duffer1;"price" 431373;1388020480;thestringpuller;isn't the price still under 1 cent? 431374;1388020580;Duffer1;probably, that's why i put 'price' in quotes because i'm hesitant to define doge as something that has a value 431375;1388020600;Duffer1;by using words normally associated with value, like "price" 431376;1388020614;Duffer1;fuffles 431377;1388020620;kakobrekla;at the end of the day its worth what market pays 431378;1388020812;thestringpuller;the free market is king 431379;1388020816;thestringpuller;ALL HAIL KEYNES 431380;1388021197;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.29982653 = 0.5997 BTC [+] 431381;1388023393;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17000 @ 0.00079782 = 13.5629 BTC [-] {2} 431382;1388023759;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 170 @ 0.00281396 = 0.4784 BTC [-] {5} 431383;1388023820;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 168 @ 0.00281 = 0.4721 BTC [-] {2} 431384;1388028090;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 900 @ 0.00079654 = 0.7169 BTC [-] 431385;1388033336;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.2980079 = 1.49 BTC [-] {3} 431386;1388033763;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00079573 = 3.9787 BTC [-] 431387;1388034129;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00079573 = 3.6604 BTC [-] 431388;1388034739;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7975 @ 0.00078467 = 6.2577 BTC [-] {3} 431389;1388040534;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.29801195 BTC [+] 431390;1388041388;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00077222 = 1.8533 BTC [-] 431391;1388041510;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 700 @ 0.00077222 = 0.5406 BTC [-] 431392;1388041632;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00077222 = 2.7028 BTC [-] 431393;1388044011;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5407 @ 0.00076414 = 4.1317 BTC [-] 431394;1388048708;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00076443 = 1.5289 BTC [+] 431395;1388052246;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 14 @ 0.06410721 = 0.8975 BTC [-] {9} 431396;1388052368;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 500 @ 0.0004253 = 0.2127 BTC [+] {4} 431397;1388052429;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.29799998 = 0.596 BTC [-] {2} 431398;1388052978;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 306 @ 0.00292121 = 0.8939 BTC [+] {3} 431399;1388053832;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17400 @ 0.00076438 = 13.3002 BTC [-] {2} 431400;1388054137;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 25000 @ 0.000104 = 2.6 BTC [-] 431401;1388054320;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14600 @ 0.00077054 = 11.2499 BTC [+] 431402;1388056882;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.072 = 0.144 BTC [-] 431403;1388056943;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 50 @ 0.06696024 = 3.348 BTC [-] {8} 431404;1388061823;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5250 @ 0.00076414 = 4.0117 BTC [-] 431405;1388066337;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MG] 7500 @ 0.00014 = 1.05 BTC [+] 431406;1388070790;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00076414 = 5.2726 BTC [-] 431407;1388071638;mod6;$vwap s.mpoe 431408;1388071640;mpexbot;mod6: S.MPOE 1 day: average: 0.00074032 high: 0.00081067 low: 0.00062972 volume: 224473 btc: 166.18268939 7 day: average: 0.00085938 high: 0.00091394 low: 0.00062972 volume: 4482088 btc: 3851.82457577 30 day: average: 0.00086882 high: 0.00091394 low: 0.00062972 volume: 15944088 btc: 13852.5782459 431409;1388071644;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.05 = 0.2 BTC [+] 431410;1388073047;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 9421 @ 0.001 = 9.421 BTC 431411;1388073169;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 27 @ 0.02400001 = 0.648 BTC [-] {2} 431412;1388073719;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 27 @ 0.02356999 = 0.6364 BTC [-] {2} 431413;1388075670;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 27 @ 0.02430001 = 0.6561 BTC [+] {2} 431414;1388075975;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.29799998 = 2.682 BTC [-] {2} 431415;1388076036;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.298 = 1.192 BTC [+] 431416;1388076707;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 27 @ 0.02379999 = 0.6426 BTC [-] {2} 431417;1388076829;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.05 = 0.25 BTC [+] 431418;1388077012;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 72 @ 0.003 = 0.216 BTC [+] 431419;1388077196;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 800 @ 0.001 = 0.8 BTC 431420;1388078267;benkay;wowee 431421;1388078271;benkay;$vwap s.mpoe 431422;1388078273;mpexbot;benkay: S.MPOE 1 day: average: 0.00072423 high: 0.0008001 low: 0.00062972 volume: 180948 btc: 131.04782264 7 day: average: 0.00085915 high: 0.00091394 low: 0.00062972 volume: 4456938 btc: 3829.20021914 30 day: average: 0.00086882 high: 0.00091394 low: 0.00062972 volume: 15944088 btc: 13852.5782459 431423;1388078294;benkay;1 day volume for mpoe was 18.1 kilobutts 431424;1388078308;benkay;sorry 431425;1388078311;benkay;181 kilobutts 431426;1388078354;gotchawallet;$100 in one day, seems legit. 431427;1388078466;kakobrekla;aha the mistery buy wall is gone too 431428;1388078688;mod6;the ~27M share bid went away over a week ago. 431429;1388078842;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.298 = 1.192 BTC [+] 431430;1388078939;kakobrekla;aha 431431;1388078942;kakobrekla;i wasnt following 431432;1388079125;kakobrekla;http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=377015.0 431433;1388079127;ozbot;Launching: BTC Hedge Fund - The Crypto-Fund is Seeking Financiers and Lenders 431434;1388079132;kakobrekla;very amount of dashes. 431435;1388079140;kakobrekla;much nice. 431436;1388079574;mod6;- yeah 431437;1388079589;mod6;- We will demonstrate our ability to use dashes. 431438;1388079797;kakobrekla;re: www.youtube.com/watch?v=26TRIz2d1m8&feature=youtu.be&t=2m57s 431439;1388079846;kakobrekla;whole clip worth watching. 431440;1388079879;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 42 @ 0.002984 = 0.1253 BTC [+] 431441;1388080427;mod6;"Put a little dash next to each one. Theymos likes dashes." 431442;1388080567;kakobrekla;:) 431443;1388081606;benkay;"In modern wit all printed trash is/Set off with numerous breaks and dashes" 431444;1388081642;mod6;HEH 431445;1388082807;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 25 @ 0.29800048 = 7.45 BTC [+] {2} 431446;1388083417;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 200 @ 0.001 = 0.2 BTC 431447;1388083783;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1255 @ 0.0001041 = 0.1306 BTC [+] 431448;1388085857;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.0028514 = 0.1426 BTC [-] {4} 431449;1388086284;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 12 @ 0.02435001 = 0.2922 BTC [-] 431450;1388086833;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 12 @ 0.02389999 = 0.2868 BTC [-] 431451;1388087321;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.298 BTC [-] 431452;1388087992;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.000104 = 0.104 BTC [-] 431453;1388088053;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.0029 = 0.29 BTC [-] 431454;1388088419;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 250 @ 0.001 = 0.25 BTC 431455;1388088602;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.05 = 0.5 BTC [+] 431456;1388089029;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 502 @ 0.00070801 = 0.3554 BTC [-] {10} 431457;1388089090;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 301 @ 0.00051167 = 0.154 BTC [-] {6} 431458;1388090615;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8407 @ 0.00076636 = 6.4428 BTC [+] 431459;1388092262;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1975 @ 0.002853 = 5.6347 BTC [-] {2} 431460;1388092274;mod6;;;bc,stats 431461;1388092277;gribble;Current Blocks: 277115 | Current Difficulty: 1.1809231952580261E9 | Next Difficulty At Block: 278207 | Next Difficulty In: 1092 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 4 hours, 4 minutes, and 4 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 1381017406.77 | Estimated Percent Change: 16.94388 431462;1388092933;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 4 @ 0.03100001 = 0.124 BTC [-] 431463;1388093360;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 10 @ 0.03100001 = 0.31 BTC [-] {2} 431464;1388093665;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 500 @ 0.001 = 0.5 BTC 431465;1388093970;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 3 @ 0.04 = 0.12 BTC [+] 431466;1388094702;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 500 @ 0.001 = 0.5 BTC 431467;1388095129;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 143 @ 0.00076636 = 0.1096 BTC [+] 431468;1388095190;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10427 @ 0.00076673 = 7.9947 BTC [+] 431469;1388095312;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00076983 = 3.8492 BTC [+] 431470;1388097691;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 68598 @ 0.00010035 = 6.8838 BTC [-] {14} 431471;1388097752;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 40000 @ 0.00007771 = 3.1084 BTC [-] {61} 431472;1388097935;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5001 @ 0.00005099 = 0.255 BTC [-] {8} 431473;1388098545;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 7578 @ 0.001 = 7.578 BTC 431474;1388098789;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] [PAID] 8.64821760 BTC to 14`120 shares, 61248 satoshi per share 431475;1388098972;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] [PAID] 1.93171620 BTC to 331`910 shares, 582 satoshi per share 431476;1388100850;mircea_popescu;.d 431477;1388100851;ozbot;1180923195.25803 | Next Diff in 1074 blocks | Estimated Change: 16.5298% in 6d 5h 9m 4s 431478;1388101080;thestringpuller;!ticker m s.mpoe 431479;1388101081;assbot;[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00076414 / 0.00077578 / 0.00079807 (121009 shares, 93.88 BTC), 7D: 0.00062972 / 0.00085746 / 0.00091394 (4365197 shares, 3,742.98 BTC), 30D: 0.00062972 / 0.00086873 / 0.00091394 (15950154 shares, 13,856.49 BTC) 431480;1388101085;thestringpuller;!ticker m ^oix 431481;1388101085;assbot;[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / 66.44661388 / 66.44661388 (3 shares, 0.07 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC) 431482;1388101595;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 15 @ 0.28616349 = 4.2925 BTC [-] {9} 431483;1388101717;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 331 @ 0.00298398 = 0.9877 BTC [-] 431484;1388101817;thestringpuller;!ticker AM1 431485;1388101817;assbot;You cannot stop the clouds by the building of a ship. 431486;1388101828;thestringpuller;!ticker h AM1 431487;1388101829;assbot;[HAVELOCK:AM1] 1D: 0.28501195 / 0.29544366 / 0.29982653 (68 shares, 20.09016899 BTC), 7D: 0.27603222 / 0.29797054 / 0.32400000 (454 shares, 135.27862564 BTC), 30D: 0.24000000 / 0.31024437 / 0.41000000 (4996 shares, 1549.98087858 BTC) 431488;1388101900;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.28501196 BTC [-] 431489;1388101961;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.28083699 = 1.685 BTC [-] {4} 431490;1388102023;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 198 @ 0.00286025 = 0.5663 BTC [-] {4} 431491;1388102083;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 230 @ 0.00284982 = 0.6555 BTC [-] {3} 431492;1388102084;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00076983 = 3.0793 BTC [+] 431493;1388102510;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22280 @ 0.00076614 = 17.0696 BTC [-] {4} 431494;1388102549;nubbins`;!t h hif 431495;1388102550;assbot;[HAVELOCK:HIF] 1D: 0.00037404 / 0.00042627 / 0.00043101 (1194 shares, 0.50896501 BTC), 7D: 0.00034900 / 0.00041531 / 0.00045000 (11779 shares, 4.89195429 BTC), 30D: 0.00002500 / 0.00039955 / 0.00052000 (254865 shares, 101.83094463 BTC) 431496;1388102587;nubbins`;lethargic 431497;1388102815;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.27612001 = 3.3134 BTC [-] {3} 431498;1388103059;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.2761175 = 1.1045 BTC [-] {2} 431499;1388103364;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 450 @ 0.00275507 = 1.2398 BTC [-] {7} 431500;1388103425;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 116 @ 0.00275022 = 0.319 BTC [-] 431501;1388103635;asciilifeform;https://unsee.cc/kanupe/ 431502;1388103636;ozbot;Unsee — Secure and private temporary image hosting 431503;1388103640;asciilifeform;for electronics junkies 431504;1388103649;asciilifeform;resurrection of dead laser cutting machine. 431505;1388103730;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 333 @ 0.00265666 = 0.8847 BTC [-] {6} 431506;1388103759;nubbins`;that's a tricky hand-solder job 431507;1388103768;asciilifeform;very. 431508;1388103798;nubbins`;also, interesting landing page on unsee.cc 431509;1388103821;asciilifeform;i like to imagine that 'unsee' photos scroll across a giant tv at nsa (honeypot!) 431510;1388103826;nubbins`;heheh 431511;1388103852;nubbins`;i like to imagine that it's what they say it is, and that the viewer can't just save the photo on first view 431512;1388103858;asciilifeform;little bugger was a stepper driver for x-axis rail 431513;1388103866;asciilifeform;last one melted. 431514;1388103890;asciilifeform;viewer can do whatever, the notion is that the server doesn't keep photos 431515;1388103900;asciilifeform;(would have to be a chump to belive this, of course) 431516;1388103902;nubbins`;nod 431517;1388103929;nubbins`;altho it certainly cuts down on the storage space they need to maintain 431518;1388103934;asciilifeform;i just like it as a photo 'pastebin' that isn't encrusted with turds 431519;1388103934;nubbins`;in theory 431520;1388103953;nubbins`;yeah 431521;1388103962;benkay;amazing soldering, asciilifeform. 431522;1388103962;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 431523;1388103974;asciilifeform;well, i haven't applied power yet... 431524;1388103977;nubbins`;okay, i think the meat should be sufficiently chilled. time to make sausage. 431525;1388103989;Vexual;looks like that resistor copped come heat 431526;1388103999;asciilifeform;it got caught in the fireball. 431527;1388104008;asciilifeform;still appears to... resist. to spec 431528;1388104087;Bugpowder;anyone know why there is a discrepancy between gribble and trading.i286 bid depth? 431529;1388104099;Bugpowder;gribble is at 40M, i286 is at 52M 431530;1388104117;mircea_popescu;first time i hear of i286 431531;1388104138;asciilifeform;intel 286? 431532;1388104146;asciilifeform;got one somewhere... 431533;1388104149;Bugpowder;Best site for wall analysis 431534;1388104150;Bugpowder;http://trading.i286.org/# 431535;1388104150;ozbot;Bitcoin Trading - MtGox 431536;1388104163;kakobrekla;i dont know why but i got the dude who made it on another chan 431537;1388104171;Bugpowder;ah 431538;1388104186;Bugpowder;ping or tell me channel plz 431539;1388104194;Bugpowder;so curiosity 431540;1388104242;kakobrekla;seems he is away, i left him a message 431541;1388104252;Bugpowder;thanks 431542;1388104257;kakobrekla;np 431543;1388104264;Bugpowder;In any event, pretty monster number 431544;1388104294;Bugpowder;Must be all the fiat people trying to get bitcoins to doge 431545;1388104389;Bugpowder;jesus TWTR 431546;1388104796;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla so ask him to join ? 431547;1388104797;mircea_popescu;:D 431548;1388104882;kakobrekla;i prolly did 431549;1388105255;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 270 @ 0.00265502 = 0.7169 BTC [-] {6} 431550;1388105378;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.05 = 0.7 BTC [+] 431551;1388105438;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 88 @ 0.002652 = 0.2334 BTC [-] 431552;1388106170;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3193 @ 0.0007653 = 2.4436 BTC [-] 431553;1388107390;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.00265203 = 0.5304 BTC [-] {2} 431554;1388107821;thestringpuller;;;bc,24hprc 431555;1388107822;gribble;752.75 431556;1388107905;thestringpuller;;;calc 20/742 431557;1388107906;gribble;0.0269541778976 431558;1388107916;thestringpuller;;;calc 20/740 431559;1388107917;gribble;0.027027027027 431560;1388108366;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1158 @ 0.00043101 = 0.4991 BTC [+] {2} 431561;1388108962;thestringpuller;;;google bitcoin web of trust 431562;1388108963;gribble;#bitcoin-otc web of trust: ; #bitcoin-otc: ; #bitcoin-otc web of trust data: 431563;1388109769;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11850 @ 0.00077025 = 9.1275 BTC [+] {2} 431564;1388110074;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 42 @ 0.002655 = 0.1115 BTC [+] 431565;1388110257;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.05 = 0.2 BTC [+] 431566;1388111233;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3050 @ 0.00077298 = 2.3576 BTC [+] 431567;1388112026;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00076651 = 3.296 BTC [-] 431568;1388115880;Duffer1;http://www.coindesk.com/merge-avoidance-privacy-bitcoin/ 431569;1388116662;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 503 @ 0.00285333 = 1.4352 BTC [-] {2} 431570;1388117028;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19181 @ 0.00077178 = 14.8035 BTC [+] 431571;1388119346;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22369 @ 0.00077255 = 17.2812 BTC [+] {2} 431572;1388119407;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7850 @ 0.00077428 = 6.0781 BTC [+] 431573;1388119712;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 5009 @ 0.001 = 5.009 BTC 431574;1388123738;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.29723821 = 0.5945 BTC [+] 431575;1388124653;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 35 @ 0.00296978 = 0.1039 BTC [+] 431576;1388124836;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.29723821 BTC [+] 431577;1388124897;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.27300001 = 0.546 BTC [-] 431578;1388125019;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 160 @ 0.002853 = 0.4565 BTC [-] 431579;1388125768;Vexual;http://www.velocityaircraft.com/Gallery/gallery2.html do these look cool? 431580;1388125769;ozbot;Velocity Aircraft 431581;1388126062;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqzK19TOPYg sky corvette from 65bc 431582;1388126062;ozbot;V8 velocity start up - YouTube 431583;1388126467;benkay;pretty badass 431584;1388126508;benkay;http://www.velocityaircraft.com/airplane-models-turbo.html 431585;1388126508;ozbot;Velocity Aircraft 431586;1388126758;BingoBoingo;Sweet 431587;1388128328;Vexual;i bet a mad max version would come in under 65bc 431588;1388128661;Vexual;33k$ plus stolen parts and 50 cans of matt black spray, then go see the wizard of oz about patience 431589;1388129958;BingoBoingo;http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2013/12/27/expectations-and-things-i-hope-will-be-good/ is writing about someone I have met. 431590;1388129959;ozbot;Expectations and things I hope will be good | Bingo Blog 431591;1388130013;BingoBoingo;If anyone has the coin to make Carlsen versus RM III happen I will gladly bet the rest of my coin on RM III. 431592;1388130056;Vexual;theres that necessity and invention again 431593;1388130081;BingoBoingo;Vexual: Maybe? 431594;1388130149;Vexual;i'm no good at chess 431595;1388130176;BingoBoingo;Vexual: I am rather poor at chess as well. 431596;1388130204;benkay;bingo that's some background texturing you got there 431597;1388130222;Vexual;im sure if i read the books id have some ahh moments, but to what end? 431598;1388130283;Vexual;if the knights groom can't fuck the queen i don't really care 431599;1388130305;BingoBoingo;benkay: I took the linen texture from the Jargon File ESR maintains 431600;1388130324;BingoBoingo;White wasn't doing it for me benkay 431601;1388130385;BingoBoingo;Vexual: Isn't resolving that dilemma one of the central points of chess, or can't you resolve it without becoming a cuckolg 431602;1388130442;Vexual;yeah im just not very good at it, and it hurts 431603;1388130487;benkay;BingoBoingo: you've gone clear through classy 'fuck all your insane styles' all the way back to '97. 431604;1388130491;benkay;BingoBoingo: I approve. 431605;1388130549;Vexual;wanna pla so i can feel better about myself? 431606;1388130675;BingoBoingo;benkay: Thank you 1997 is the exact year I am shooting for. Twas the year I found putting my index and middle fingers inside a girl could make a girl really happy. 431607;1388130687;BingoBoingo;Vexual: WHy the fuck not? 431608;1388130710;benkay;;;calc 2014-1997 431609;1388130710;gribble;17 431610;1388130718;benkay;hm. 431611;1388130731;BingoBoingo;Fuck I feel old 431612;1388130758;benkay;oh man! 431613;1388130763;benkay;i just remembered the first girl i fingered. 431614;1388130783;BingoBoingo;benkay: Happens to the best of us. 431615;1388130785;benkay;stopped in at her crib on a trip to santa clara last year. still get along grandly. 431616;1388130815;BingoBoingo;I havenyt seen mine in nine years. 431617;1388130875;BingoBoingo;She had an ass on her though. 431618;1388130892;BingoBoingo;Lacked in the titties department though. 431619;1388130912;benkay;they're all beautiful in their own way 431620;1388130933;benkay;most lovely though when convulsing with out of body experiences 431621;1388130945;benkay;doubt i'll ever tire of the sight 431622;1388131040;BingoBoingo;Yeah, I consider HS a time of regret though because I went from a 1 in a million girl with an ass to some rando bitch with a bit bigger titties and not that ass 431623;1388131063;benkay;me too! 431624;1388131080;benkay;although my regret revolves around a brief brush with HTML and C that never turned into anything. 431625;1388131139;benkay;I tell myself that it's probably for the best as I'd likely have gotten mixed up in some profitable and not terribly reputable business and wound up in the pokey given my predilections. 431626;1388131141;BingoBoingo;I mean titties are good. It is just.... Easy to discount the rest of a girl's frame when you aren't yet aware titties come cheap 431627;1388131184;BingoBoingo;benkay: The pokey isn't so bad if your skin is pale enough 431628;1388131224;benkay;BingoBoingo: i'd rather not burn those years behind bars. 431629;1388131309;BingoBoingo;Bars are cheap. That girl in High School you pass with that ass though.... That haunts you.' 431630;1388131362;benkay;things that haunt me 431631;1388131378;benkay;do not include girls from hs 431632;1388131392;benkay;does include the cost of my 'education' 431633;1388131443;BingoBoingo;It isn't the girl, or the education per se, but dat ass is on the list of thing I miss. 431634;1388131457;benkay;actually there is one of those 431635;1388131465;benkay;and i did trade away from the butt 431636;1388131476;benkay;but dear god the brain upgrade the new model came with... 431637;1388131643;BingoBoingo;I am doomed to equate college with girls who are ok and smart, but lacking in the "dayum" department 431638;1388131724;benkay;i've only ever gone back and forth between pretty and sane and pretty and insane 431639;1388131746;benkay;but crazy smart beats sane stupid any day. 431640;1388131841;BingoBoingo;Never had that combination. I've had pretty smart and needs lithium or pretty stupid and presentable. 431641;1388131877;BingoBoingo;I have to say stupid was more fun though for quite a while. 431642;1388131877;benkay;i think we're talking about the same thing. 431643;1388131928;BingoBoingo;Maybe? 431644;1388131931;benkay;i've only ever bounced between (sane simple slammin) and (crazy smart gorgeous) 431645;1388131973;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.29499999 BTC [+] 431646;1388131987;benkay;even the smart ones are still women at the end of the day, with all the emotionally-driven decisionmaking that entails. 431647;1388131996;benkay;i did have one that was scarily devoid of emotions 431648;1388132014;BingoBoingo;devoid of emotions is fine. 431649;1388132036;benkay;can't really say as i agree. 431650;1388132049;BingoBoingo;I just want a girl with an ass that can drag me out of africa. 431651;1388132092;benkay;i want a girl with a brain who can raise a brood. 431652;1388132109;benkay;capital and mercenaries are for the Africa scenario. 431653;1388132126;BingoBoingo;I don't mind a brood if I don't have to help or the girl has an ass 431654;1388132145;benkay;capital is the stand-in for helping 431655;1388132160;benkay;although i'm actually interested in the teaching of nascent humans. 431656;1388132213;benkay;math, physics, programming, philosophy, history and fighting. that's basically the benkay curriculum. 431657;1388132219;BingoBoingo;My latest post is about someone great at teaching and shaping larval persons. 431658;1388132259;benkay;so it is 431659;1388132296;benkay;having played both chess and go i cannot conscience teaching kids chess over go 431660;1388132306;BingoBoingo;benkay: He's actuall good enough at the pursuit I would bet my coin on him to beat carlsen 431661;1388132333;BingoBoingo;Honestly youprobably need to teach both games. 431662;1388132335;benkay;young chess nerds have this "with what formula do i respond to this problem" approach to life 431663;1388132338;benkay;sure 431664;1388132392;BingoBoingo;The thing about chess is that sometimes some formula is the right answer 431665;1388132403;benkay;most of the time, right? 431666;1388132437;BingoBoingo;For example I play the Pirc defense in response to 1. e4 431667;1388132453;BingoBoingo;There is a riht answer in the austrian attack. 431668;1388132523;benkay;man i just fucking hate the problem space of chess 431669;1388132540;benkay;totally down with the randomized variants though 431670;1388132546;BingoBoingo;admit I'lll probably have to leatn go though 431671;1388132572;benkay;that one takes a minute. 431672;1388132584;benkay;i just about understand the rules, and that's it. 431673;1388132629;BingoBoingo;The thing is moving to the Ausstrian attack takes no time. !. e4 d6 2. f4 431674;1388132649;benkay;maybe i've been thinking about chess wrong 431675;1388132660;BingoBoingo;Maybe? 431676;1388132698;BingoBoingo;Even te austrian attack onlyt has a 55% winnning percentage. 431677;1388132713;benkay;ugh that you can even make claims like that is why boo chess 431678;1388132792;BingoBoingo;I think those things are a saving grace of the game 431679;1388132898;BingoBoingo;I mean if you want to skip to cheap 1. d4 is the winnningest move in the game, but... 431680;1388133052;Vexual;do you play on a board or screen via irc bingo? 431681;1388133084;BingoBoingo;IRL: 1. d4 d5 2. c4 dxc5 is actually a rare thing. You have to prepare for the queen's gambit accepted while girding yourself for the slav. 431682;1388133101;BingoBoingo;Vexual: I usually use a board 431683;1388133143;BingoBoingo;Vexual: If you insist on a screen chess.com isn't horrible though they are annoying 431684;1388133330;Vexual;no i prefer board 431685;1388133365;Vexual;removes temptaion of hint bots etc 431686;1388133379;BingoBoingo;Vexual: Doo you know algebraic notation acceptably well? 431687;1388133416;Vexual;no, and i havent played chess for some years, so it will be an intelligence test 431688;1388133420;BingoBoingo;The only way to remove bots is playing the game for cash 431689;1388133431;BingoBoingo;Ah 431690;1388133448;benkay;how does playing for cash remove bots? 431691;1388133449;Vexual;no problemas friend 431692;1388133491;BingoBoingo;Vexual: Playing for cash encourages bots. 431693;1388133510;Vexual;who said cash? 431694;1388133519;BingoBoingo;Why play at your actual level when fruit can play for you as a candidate master. 431695;1388133528;BingoBoingo;No one said cash 431696;1388133531;Vexual;we can check for bots later 431697;1388133559;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22400 @ 0.00083454 = 18.6937 BTC [+] 431698;1388133570;BingoBoingo;Vexual: Would you rather be white or nigger? 431699;1388133587;Vexual;i have to cook dinner and find a board 431700;1388133597;BingoBoingo;That is fine 431701;1388133612;Vexual;(aka loadup chessbot) 431702;1388133614;BingoBoingo;I have a board set up already. 431703;1388133702;Vexual;im fringhten, u beat nubs twice? 431704;1388133747;BingoBoingo;Vexual: Probalbly moar than twice. 431705;1388133770;BingoBoingo;I have never beat RM III though 431706;1388133845;BingoBoingo;And Vexual I wi;ll let you pick your color unless you insist on ;;flip 431707;1388133885;Vexual;i can olnly find a plastic set 431708;1388133907;BingoBoingo;That works vexual. 431709;1388133934;Vexual;i really must cook dinner first 431710;1388133939;BingoBoingo;Vexual: Do you know how algebraic notatiomn works 431711;1388133960;Vexual;if its algebra and notation im sure ill get it first go 431712;1388134016;BingoBoingo;Vexual: Well, the board is only 8x8 431713;1388134035;BingoBoingo;And pieces start on letters. 431714;1388134056;Vexual;reading and numbers, check 431715;1388134207;Vexual;do you wish to be embarrassed in public? 431716;1388134248;BingoBoingo;Vexual: I prefer the public 431717;1388134404;Vexual;then you shall be white, if you don't mind a delay as i cook, i am ready 431718;1388134536;BingoBoingo;Vexual: !. d4 431719;1388134587;Vexual;one clarification; thats the kings prawn twice yeah? 431720;1388134621;BingoBoingo;Vexual: I moved the queen's pawn up two 431721;1388134621;Vexual;nho, the queen sits the colour 431722;1388134626;Vexual;yes sorry 431723;1388134649;Vexual;and to think i was going to make a joke about horseys 431724;1388134657;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20550 @ 0.00083454 = 17.1498 BTC [+] 431725;1388134671;Vexual;whats the ! for? 431726;1388134697;Vexual;i thought this was wood plastic stone 431727;1388134703;BingoBoingo;Vexual: The ! willl be revealed in time 431728;1388134712;Vexual;e4 431729;1388134731;BingoBoingo;Vexual: You can only make it as far as e5 431730;1388134745;BingoBoingo;Which I don't recommend 431731;1388134778;Vexual;ok i have letters and numbers mixed up then 431732;1388134779;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00083788 = 3.7705 BTC [+] 431733;1388134816;Vexual;wait are you fucking with me? 431734;1388134828;Gotyawallet;Vexual are you aborigine http://tinyurl.com/78manhb 431735;1388134845;Vexual;ok i get it, 431736;1388134856;Vexual;e5 431737;1388134874;BingoBoingo;c4 431738;1388134904;Vexual;i dont get it 431739;1388134910;benkay;;;ticker 431740;1388134910;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 780.397, Best ask: 787.0, Bid-ask spread: 6.60300, Last trade: 787.0, 24 hour volume: 22364.15748135, 24 hour low: 730.56, 24 hour high: 829.8, 24 hour vwap: 789.0979 431741;1388134966;Vexual;ok, knight out yeah? 431742;1388135002;BingoBoingo;Vexual: I moved my queen's bishop pawn up two 431743;1388135018;Vexual;yes sorry, im trying to be nigella bites here' 431744;1388135027;BingoBoingo;Ah 431745;1388135048;Vexual;c5 431746;1388135072;BingoBoingo;dx35 431747;1388135079;BingoBoingo;dxe5 431748;1388135093;Vexual;tips and notation in the same breath 431749;1388135120;Vexual;i cant interpret sorry 431750;1388135138;BingoBoingo;The d pawn taking d5 is what happened 431751;1388135149;Gotyawallet;http://tinyurl.com/ofjhexr 431752;1388135176;Vexual;i see, the first one was a typo 431753;1388135194;BingoBoingo;prolly 431754;1388135197;Vexual;?? 431755;1388135228;Vexual;ok, now we play 431756;1388135244;BingoBoingo;Vexual: It is your move 431757;1388135400;Vexual;sorry, im not googleing chess moves, its a tika masala 431758;1388135447;Vexual;bxc6 431759;1388135450;Vexual;? 431760;1388135495;BingoBoingo;1. d4 e5 2. c4 c5 431761;1388135562;BingoBoingo;Vexual: You seek to have a bishop aimed there, but nothing seems to be on that square to take 431762;1388135586;Vexual;im still grappling with the notation and a curry 431763;1388135606;BingoBoingo;It happens 431764;1388135635;Vexual;was that a move or are you teaching me strategy? 431765;1388135643;BingoBoingo;3. dx35 431766;1388135662;Vexual;my notation was wrong? 431767;1388135677;BingoBoingo;Vexual: I am waiting for you to concoct a legal move 431768;1388135687;Vexual;which one of us is a comuter? 431769;1388135707;BingoBoingo;Beither. It is person versus person. 431770;1388135718;BingoBoingo;And I may be confusing e with 3 431771;1388135761;BingoBoingo;So 1. d4 e5 2. c4 c5 3. dxe5 is what happened 431772;1388135796;Vexual;my last move was correct and you moved? 431773;1388135850;BingoBoingo;What was your last move? 431774;1388135877;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31125 @ 0.0008391 = 26.117 BTC [+] {3} 431775;1388135906;Vexual;i was aiming to move the kings knicght out to his direction 431776;1388135915;Vexual;queens sorry 431777;1388135931;Vexual;we crashed ukyo 431778;1388135954;BingoBoingo;Nc6? And ukyo was relevant when? 431779;1388135966;BingoBoingo;Nf3 431780;1388135999;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 98 @ 0.00294 = 0.2881 BTC [-] 431781;1388136176;Vexual;n? 431782;1388136195;Vexual;n for knight? 431783;1388136209;BingoBoingo;Yup, Knight to f3 431784;1388136252;Vexual;o for awesome, im getting it 431785;1388136262;Vexual;wait, thats not it 431786;1388136302;BingoBoingo;Vexual: I you want we could start over with you as white... 431787;1388136336;Vexual;yes nf3 431788;1388136534;BingoBoingo;You move? 431789;1388136629;Gotyawallet;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1trxdv/miamis_first_restaurant_to_accept_bitcoin/ 431790;1388136630;ozbot;Miami's first restaurant to accept bitcoin Tomorrow will be their first bitcoin happy hour - please 431791;1388136631;Vexual;me? 431792;1388136662;BingoBoingo;Vexual: I do believe it is indeed your move 431793;1388136667;Vexual;ive made an error 431794;1388136669;Gotyawallet;I'll have to check that out..do you have to wait for your bitcoin to be verified before you can stuff your face 431795;1388136706;BingoBoingo;Vexual: What error? 431796;1388137005;BingoBoingo;If you don't answer it is hard to determine if it is an actual error or not 431797;1388137037;Vexual;i was eating 431798;1388137089;BingoBoingo;Ah 431799;1388137411;Vexual;we should probably give that lot to #opencog 431800;1388137421;BingoBoingo;? 431801;1388137436;Vexual;learning to learn and shit 431802;1388137474;BingoBoingo;Vexual, what sort of person surrenders so soon? 431803;1388137509;Vexual;ok my queen side knight moved out towards the queen, wheat next 431804;1388137525;Vexual;*what 431805;1388137605;BingoBoingo;Vexual: I am going to sleep and pretend this game never happened 431806;1388137630;Vexual;cool, i win again 431807;1388137642;BingoBoingo;Sure, for some values of win 431808;1388137702;Vexual;nigella has an iq of about 60, add 80 for the chess, 140!! 431809;1388137728;BingoBoingo;nigella is also a niggress 431810;1388137796;BingoBoingo;I have a feeling Vexual That you never intended to play honest 431811;1388137905;Vexual;i did, i was busy, and i lost track as i was learning notation 431812;1388138001;BingoBoingo;Vexual: Is anything wrong with you playing white? 431813;1388138046;Vexual;i dont think so 431814;1388138064;Vexual;you were whit that game tho right? 431815;1388138095;BingoBoingo;Vexual: Last one we played i was black as Mugabe 431816;1388138103;Vexual;yes 431817;1388138133;Vexual;white lives at a or 1? 431818;1388138152;BingoBoingo;Vexual: that shit doesn't matter 431819;1388138154;Vexual;no you were white 431820;1388138165;Vexual;fucking idiot, you went 1st 431821;1388138178;BingoBoingo;pretty sure I was the negro. 431822;1388138180;Vexual;no wonder the notation was fucked up 431823;1388138195;Vexual;i was trying to learn bongo brain 431824;1388138212;BingoBoingo;Vexual: Let us start again 431825;1388138231;Vexual;ok, yo uwhite 431826;1388138246;BingoBoingo;Alright, what is your first move? 431827;1388138257;Vexual;lets take it to opencog until we get kicked, further human knowledge 431828;1388138265;Vexual;white goes first 431829;1388138309;BingoBoingo;What is opencog? 431830;1388138316;Vexual;i let you go 1s so i could learn notation 431831;1388138322;BingoBoingo;White always goes first 431832;1388138331;Vexual;they make ai for comutergames and robots and shit 431833;1388138335;BingoBoingo;Cuase 'Merica 431834;1388138480;BingoBoingo;Vexual: As white you move first. 431835;1388138509;Vexual;ok, but if you pull that shit again, ill get crosser 431836;1388138558;BingoBoingo;Vexual: If I pull what shit. 431837;1388138593;Vexual;turning the board around so i can't learn 431838;1388138626;BingoBoingo;I am the one playing nigger and you keep quitting 431839;1388138666;BingoBoingo;I can assure you not only can nubbins be, but he is totally ashamed 431840;1388138866;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 123 @ 0.001 = 0.123 BTC 431841;1388138867;Vexual;can we okay long hand? 431842;1388138883;Vexual;play even 431843;1388138939;BingoBoingo;I am unsure not only of what you mean, but additionally of what you could mean 431844;1388138956;Vexual;kings pawn 2 forward 431845;1388139047;BingoBoingo;Is thisd the first move of a new game? If so 1.... d6. 431846;1388139070;Vexual;invalid move, check notation 431847;1388139103;BingoBoingo;Vexual: You moved 1. e4 and i followed with ... d6 431848;1388139111;BingoBoingo;Queen pawn up one 431849;1388139116;Vexual;im white u dumb fuck 431850;1388139122;Vexual;thats better 431851;1388139144;Vexual;kings knight toward king 431852;1388139176;BingoBoingo;to f3 or h3? 431853;1388139185;Vexual;f3 431854;1388139194;BingoBoingo;Nf6 431855;1388139220;Vexual;try again 431856;1388139273;Vexual;did you mean kings knight away? 431857;1388139361;BingoBoingo;Vexual: I mean I am moving the King's knight to F6 and if anything gets in the way so help me god I am raping it until it is dead 431858;1388139401;Vexual;ill allow it 431859;1388139433;Vexual;knd4 431860;1388139481;BingoBoingo;g6 431861;1388139509;BingoBoingo;Chess has a nice basis for notation. A to H, 1 to 8... 431862;1388139527;Vexual;d3 431863;1388139555;BingoBoingo;Bg4 431864;1388139566;Vexual;bg? 431865;1388139597;BingoBoingo;Bishop to G4 431866;1388139632;Vexual;queen forward 431867;1388139684;BingoBoingo;Bg7 431868;1388139720;BingoBoingo;nubbins' I miss you 431869;1388139740;Vexual;youre a cheeky little so and so 431870;1388139763;Vexual;be2 431871;1388139767;BingoBoingo;vexual and I can't find a word other than cunt to describe you 431872;1388139789;BingoBoingo;BxB 431873;1388139791;Vexual;wait till the knights pawn gets your queen 431874;1388139817;BingoBoingo;DO I even need a queen? 431875;1388139819;Vexual;king takes bishop 431876;1388139833;Vexual;she will still be there, just ruined 431877;1388139842;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21550 @ 0.00084486 = 18.2067 BTC [+] 431878;1388139856;BingoBoingo;0-0 431879;1388139863;Vexual;ruck now i cant castle, dam you vanity! 431880;1388139915;Vexual;whats 00? is that a move, or are you obtaining more vodka ? 431881;1388139929;BingoBoingo;Vexual: 0-0 is castling kingside 431882;1388139936;Vexual;thanks 431883;1388139940;BingoBoingo;I did war you, but no. 431884;1388139960;BingoBoingo;You didn't think the Pric defense could be so dangerous 431885;1388139966;Vexual;i thought you were eating two dicks, im new at this 431886;1388140009;BingoBoingo;Do you know who wouldn't be so vain? nubbins' 431887;1388140043;Vexual;queens knight to queen 431888;1388140061;Vexual;(c'3) prome style 431889;1388140084;BingoBoingo;e5 431890;1388140122;Vexual;b5 431891;1388140147;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24015 @ 0.0008469 = 20.3383 BTC [+] {2} 431892;1388140149;BingoBoingo;b4 or Nc-B5? 431893;1388140163;Vexual;kings knight to b5 431894;1388140225;BingoBoingo;Qd7 431895;1388140269;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 750 @ 0.001 = 0.75 BTC 431896;1388140325;Vexual;a2 to a 4 431897;1388140358;BingoBoingo;a7-a6 431898;1388140460;Vexual;f3 431899;1388140525;BingoBoingo;axb4 431900;1388140535;BingoBoingo;Sorry, axb5 431901;1388140605;Vexual;b4 431902;1388140663;BingoBoingo;bxa4 431903;1388140709;Gotyawallet;lol ya'll fools is funny 431904;1388140716;Gotyawallet;king me 431905;1388140731;Vexual;h3 431906;1388140800;BingoBoingo;Nc6 431907;1388140822;Vexual;b5 431908;1388140874;BingoBoingo;Nd4+ 431909;1388140898;Vexual;whats the +? 431910;1388140914;BingoBoingo;Vexual: You are in check 431911;1388140921;Vexual;oh 431912;1388140937;Vexual;king forward 431913;1388140938;BingoBoingo;My knight waves it's dick at your regent 431914;1388140952;BingoBoingo;Bh6+ 431915;1388140998;Vexual;pf4 431916;1388141042;BingoBoingo;Bxf4 431917;1388141119;Vexual;f2 431918;1388141132;BingoBoingo;Kf2? 431919;1388141146;Vexual;duh 431920;1388141157;BingoBoingo;BxQ 431921;1388141171;Vexual;bxb 431922;1388141199;BingoBoingo;Nxc2 431923;1388141291;Vexual;king to e2 431924;1388141326;BingoBoingo;Nxa1 431925;1388141362;Vexual;are u pretending to be on a board? 431926;1388141372;Vexual;your nicht is at b2 431927;1388141384;BingoBoingo;Vexual: I have a board 431928;1388141393;Vexual;so it seems 431929;1388141401;Vexual;where is your knight? 431930;1388141418;BingoBoingo;My jnight tok out tt trash on c2 and now took out the trash on a1 431931;1388141443;BingoBoingo;See Nxc2 above 431932;1388141450;Vexual;fuck youre right, let me recount 431933;1388141512;Vexual;rook to a6 431934;1388141722;BingoBoingo;I don't think you have a rook to move there 431935;1388141730;BingoBoingo;Much less a clear file 431936;1388141739;Vexual;yes a8 hadnt moved 431937;1388141762;BingoBoingo;Vexual: a8 is my rook, my knight just took a1 431938;1388141877;Vexual;have you got another board? 431939;1388141900;BingoBoingo;Vexual: I am only looking at one board 431940;1388142013;BingoBoingo;Vexual: Are you tripping balls? 431941;1388142023;Vexual;we have a discrepency, no im not 431942;1388142046;Vexual;is it worth going back? i think you have it either way 431943;1388142085;Vexual;want a photo of my board? 431944;1388142149;BingoBoingo;Vexual: We can compare oards, but I think in the least ambiguous notation I just took your rook on a1 with my knight 431945;1388142161;Vexual;i say the most likely root is you fail at cheating 431946;1388142182;Vexual;yes i moved a8 to a6 dumbass 431947;1388142210;Vexual;its usually the human that fucks up 431948;1388142217;BingoBoingo;Vexual: I am the nigger though. a8 is my rook 431949;1388142229;Vexual;since when? 431950;1388142240;Vexual;its covered 431951;1388142292;BingoBoingo;Vexual: To the best of my knowledge I have been black the whole game. 431952;1388142305;Vexual;oh fuck 431953;1388142307;Vexual;my ad 431954;1388142309;Vexual;bad 431955;1388142330;Vexual;h1 e1 431956;1388142337;Vexual;i do apologise 431957;1388142359;BingoBoingo;N b3 431958;1388142388;Vexual;qc2 431959;1388142416;BingoBoingo;Vexual: You don't have a queen anymoar 431960;1388142446;Vexual;youre right, thats a a bell end bishop, hold 431961;1388142454;BingoBoingo;https://unsee.cc/ketapu/ 431962;1388142455;ozbot;Unsee — Secure and private temporary image hosting 431963;1388142484;Vexual;bg5 431964;1388142518;BingoBoingo;Nd4+ 431965;1388142539;Vexual;fuck mano, im gonna send u some hobonickels, i thought my setup was ghetto 431966;1388142570;Vexual;at leats youre good at chess 431967;1388142585;BingoBoingo;Vexual: The trick is that I am the nigga' all the ghetto is mine 431968;1388142585;Vexual;king forward 431969;1388142596;Vexual;it certainly seems that way 431970;1388142638;BingoBoingo;Nc2+ 431971;1388142671;Vexual;kd2 431972;1388142688;BingoBoingo;Nxe1 431973;1388142739;Vexual;kxn 431974;1388142759;BingoBoingo;a3 431975;1388142785;Vexual;cunt 431976;1388142823;Vexual;bf3 431977;1388142845;Vexual;errr 431978;1388142847;BingoBoingo;Vexual: You are the one who insisted in expending all of this effort. 431979;1388142851;BingoBoingo;bf4? 431980;1388142857;Vexual;bf6 431981;1388142875;BingoBoingo;a2 431982;1388142898;Vexual;yes and i told you the queens knight and his men will roll in 431983;1388142945;Vexual;d5 431984;1388142963;BingoBoingo;a1-Q+ 431985;1388143013;Vexual;huh? 431986;1388143039;BingoBoingo;Vexual: I moved my pawn to a1 and it became a queen 431987;1388143053;BingoBoingo;Like Mikial Jackson 431988;1388143060;Vexual;you already have a queen genius 431989;1388143083;BingoBoingo;Vexual: Sure I had one queen, but nao I have a second 431990;1388143111;Vexual;u wanna check that? 431991;1388143135;BingoBoingo;Check what? Last I checked, yoou are in check... 431992;1388143246;Vexual;fuck off, theres only one queen 431993;1388143306;BingoBoingo;Maybe in some games there can only bee one queen, but this is chess. 431994;1388143312;Vexual;im white 431995;1388143338;BingoBoingo;Vexual: I looks like the Zulus are winning 431996;1388143339;Vexual;use your bishop 431997;1388143344;Vexual;lol 431998;1388143351;Vexual;ok queen 431999;1388143366;BingoBoingo;Vexual: I have no need to move, me new queen put you in check 432000;1388143366;Vexual;use my white one 432001;1388143384;Vexual;kd2 432002;1388143423;BingoBoingo;Ra8-a2+ 432003;1388143440;Vexual;a8? 432004;1388143459;Vexual;speak english zulu 432005;1388143459;BingoBoingo;You have no rooks 432006;1388143472;Vexual;i have one 432007;1388143480;BingoBoingo;Rook was on a8 and went to a2 432008;1388143484;BingoBoingo;+ 432009;1388143492;Vexual;ok 432010;1388143523;Vexual;ke3 432011;1388143607;BingoBoingo;Qa1xNc3 432012;1388143612;BingoBoingo;+ 432013;1388143628;BingoBoingo;Might actually be # 432014;1388143645;Vexual;your queen is on a2 432015;1388143662;BingoBoingo;No, a2 is busy holding my rook 432016;1388143690;Vexual;i mean b1 432017;1388143710;Vexual;oh wait 432018;1388143729;BingoBoingo;If it was on b1 it could still go Qb3# 432019;1388143755;Vexual;this is as dissappointing as cybersecks 432020;1388143759;Vexual;whats going on? 432021;1388143772;BingoBoingo;Vexual I think what happeed is you lost 432022;1388143785;Vexual;is it mate? 432023;1388143800;BingoBoingo;Unlike most people thoug you seem to be trying to give someone else you loss. 432024;1388143811;BingoBoingo;Only you can say if it is mate or not 432025;1388143827;Vexual;no i am having trouble interpreting qa1xnc3 432026;1388143895;Vexual;a1 and c3 appear to be empty 432027;1388143905;BingoBoingo;You had a Knight on c3. I has a pawn that went to a1 and became a fabulous queen. That queen took you knight # 432028;1388143983;Vexual;im terribly embarrassed, but i fucked up somewehre ther 432029;1388144020;BingoBoingo;You really did. 432030;1388144033;Vexual;good game, you had it from the start, thats mate 432031;1388144095;BingoBoingo;Vexual: GG to you too 432032;1388144180;Vexual;fuckups aside, i still rate pretty poorly huh? 432033;1388144279;BingoBoingo;I rate poorly Vexual 432034;1388144312;BingoBoingo;I rate very poorly 432035;1388144316;Vexual;so im nigella? 432036;1388144383;Vexual;a cocaine habit and an aptitude for cups to grammes? 432037;1388144392;BingoBoingo;Maybe? Maybe if you are a bitch who likes to be choked the hell out of? 432038;1388144431;Vexual;nope, +5! 432039;1388144469;Vexual;although, my defences were insufficient 432040;1388144497;BingoBoingo;Everyone's defenses are insufficient 432041;1388144525;Vexual;deep 432042;1388144591;BingoBoingo;Not really, it just happens 432043;1388144610;Vexual;you were quite obviously better than me 432044;1388144688;BingoBoingo;Maybe? Deep though would have involved you knowing both why and how I beat you. 432045;1388144704;Vexual;and my fail is forever etching in the marbleous slendour of bitcoin-assets 432046;1388144745;BingoBoingo;Vexual: Nubbins' is totallly going to wipe the floor with your bullshit whenever he gets back. 432047;1388144775;Vexual;oh :( 432048;1388144857;BingoBoingo;Vexual, don't get me wrong. You weren't bad at chess. 432049;1388144905;assbot;[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 78 @ 0.0026 = 0.2028 BTC [+] 432050;1388144905;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.002853 = 0.5706 BTC [-] 432051;1388144983;Vexual;i was 432052;1388144987;Vexual;am 432053;1388144992;BingoBoingo;Vexual: You just handled every situation you encountered in the game in a way that was substandard 432054;1388145017;Vexual;oh 432055;1388145080;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oWxyYiR6dQ 432056;1388145080;ozbot;Paul Simon & Ladysmith Black Mambazo - Homeless - Hyde Park - Live in London - July 15 2012 - YouTub 432057;1388145502;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUQzE7ff8pQ 432058;1388145502;ozbot;Paul Kelly - I've done all the dumb things - YouTube 432059;1388145826;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSzpOUwiLkc&hl=en-GB&gl=GB 432060;1388145826;ozbot;Nightcrawlers - Push The Feeling On - YouTube 432061;1388146035;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFHkO3CqnjU 432062;1388146035;ozbot;Bong-Ra 'Can You Dig It ?' - YouTube 432063;1388146047;Vexual;;) 432064;1388146520;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbHLj7xt5Rw 432065;1388146520;ozbot;afroman - sell your dope - YouTube 432066;1388147865;Vexual;wold bitbet ever consider promoting cage fights? i need some coin 432067;1388147955;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.29 BTC [-] 432068;1388148166;Vexual;juke-jr is prolly the only guy in my weight 432069;1388148217;Vexual;and hes flush 432070;1388148423;Vexual;vex tardefortress might pay 432071;1388148475;Vexual;hes flush too 432072;1388148524;Vexual;how big dyareckon prome is? 432073;1388148905;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyjV9hDNRvQ 432074;1388148905;ozbot;Bloc Party - Two More Years - YouTube 432075;1388149036;Vexual;$¬(<(..) 432076;1388149058;Vexual;hahah 432077;1388149170;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBsazIACpYM 432078;1388149170;ozbot;Stone Roses - Fools Gold(Full Version) - YouTube 432079;1388149551;Vexual;kano, dr greg and smidge have martial arts 432080;1388149691;Vexual;next london trade show 432081;1388150002;Vexual;i might be thinking too far outside the box 432082;1388150053;Vexual;perhaps a trip to the cleaners instead of the dentis would be more satisfying with dr greg 432083;1388150152;Vexual;less chance of asophogeal damage to me, with karate and all 432084;1388150257;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk8j3z53tGM 432085;1388150258;ozbot;Ian Brown F E A R - YouTube 432086;1388150517;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.286 = 0.572 BTC [-] 432087;1388150552;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNpy6NoFFsk 432088;1388150553;ozbot;Lead Belly- Pick A Bale Of Cotton live 1945 - YouTube 432089;1388150639;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.285 BTC [-] 432090;1388150732;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrofCGa2BP8 432091;1388150733;ozbot;Eric Clapton - Cocaine [Live from Tokyo 1988] - YouTube 432092;1388150761;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 700 @ 0.00281328 = 1.9693 BTC [-] {5} 432093;1388150822;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1300 @ 0.00281015 = 3.6532 BTC [-] {3} 432094;1388152026;Vexual;coca growers are quite capable of subsistance farming 432095;1388152179;Vexual;ie not growing coca for refinement 432096;1388152240;Vexual;and providing better long term outcomes for their communities 432097;1388153201;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 26 @ 0.02499991 = 0.65 BTC [+] {2} 432098;1388154170;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo "I have met Richard Martin II though and can say he is a rather unpleasant facsimile of a human being though." << too many thoughs 432099;1388155381;ThickAsThieves;http://www.mastercoin.org/ 432100;1388155384;ThickAsThieves;$169 ea 432101;1388155409;ThickAsThieves;$95m market 432102;1388155448;ThickAsThieves;http://coinmarketcap.com/ Ripple $2.6b 432103;1388155449;ozbot;Crypto-Currency Market Capitalizations | Bitcoin Ripple Litecoin MasterCoin Peercoin Namecoin Quark 432104;1388156983;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 4090 @ 0.001 = 4.09 BTC 432105;1388157644;Gotyawallet;a lot of folks do NOT like mastercoin 432106;1388157951;kakobrekla;;;later tell bugpowder twas a bug without powder 432107;1388157952;gribble;The operation succeeded. 432108;1388157959;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 19 @ 0.07 = 1.33 BTC [-] {3} 432109;1388158020;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.28100334 = 1.686 BTC [-] {2} 432110;1388158081;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.28012013 BTC [-] 432111;1388158325;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2376 @ 0.00009086 = 0.2159 BTC [-] {6} 432112;1388158326;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15600 @ 0.00085385 = 13.3201 BTC [+] {3} 432113;1388158813;kakobrekla;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72RqpItxd8M 432114;1388158813;ozbot;KUNG FURY Official Trailer [HD] - YouTube 432115;1388158907;kakobrekla;this is better than bitfury 432116;1388159118;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17110 @ 0.00085373 = 14.6073 BTC [-] 432117;1388159179;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 202 @ 0.00085122 = 0.1719 BTC [-] 432118;1388159541;kakobrekla;http://finance.yahoo.com/news/shares-no-name-tech-company-122532967.html 432119;1388159543;ozbot;Shares Of No-Name Tech Company Go Crazy After It Announces Its Getting Into The Bitcoin Game - Yahoo 432120;1388160005;the20year1;Nice 432121;1388160277;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.07739999 = 0.774 BTC [+] {2} 432122;1388161522;TomServo;!jd 432123;1388161523;assbot;Just-Dice stat: 9702 BTC profit, 35.6k BTC invested, 393.50 mio bets, 4.67 mio BTC wagered 432124;1388161680;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.2949992 = 3.245 BTC [+] {4} 432125;1388162595;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26200 @ 0.00085453 = 22.3887 BTC [+] 432126;1388163343;the20year1;Big RentalStarter email sent out, if you're one of our investors, please read - https://docs.google.com/document/d/164t3NRO3KysAmFHCwj9GeEWDsYSkU8_wCKo9dL9WoUk/edit?usp=sharing 432127;1388163693;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00085453 = 13.6725 BTC [+] 432128;1388163754;assbot;[MPEX] [S.NSA] 45000 @ 0.00012 = 5.4 BTC [-] 432129;1388163796;Bugpowder;TWTR pop 432130;1388163883;jurov;;;hashrate 432131;1388163884;gribble;Error: "hashrate" is not a valid command. 432132;1388163887;jurov;;;rate 432133;1388163888;gribble;(rate []) -- Enters a rating for in the amount of . Use optional field to enter any notes you have about this user. must be the user's GPG-registered username, Your previously existing rating, if any, will be overwritten. 432134;1388163895;jurov;;;bc,stats 432135;1388163898;gribble;Current Blocks: 277263 | Current Difficulty: 1.1809231952580261E9 | Next Difficulty At Block: 278207 | Next Difficulty In: 944 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 5 hours, 10 minutes, and 16 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 1390150298.77 | Estimated Percent Change: 17.71725 432136;1388163929;Bugpowder;http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/hot-stock-minute/wpcs-to-release-bitcoin-trading-platform--gm-recalls-1-5-million-cars-in-china--textron-buys-beechcraft--lockheed-martin-at-52-week-high-135253529.html 432137;1388163930;ozbot;WPCS soars; GM recalls; Textron buys Beechcraft; Lockheed Martin hits 52-week high | Hot Stock Minut 432138;1388163936;Bugpowder;First up, WPCS International (WPCS) whose stock jumped 20% in after-hours trading yesterday. The surge came after the tech company announced its BTX Trader unit would be releasing a software platform to trade Bitcoins. The digital currency last traded above $800 according to Bitcoin exchange, Mt.Gox. For the year, WPCS is down nearly 50%. 432139;1388163973;Bugpowder;http://www.rttnews.com/2244541/wpcs-announces-public-release-of-beta-version-of-btx-trading-platform.aspx?type=bn 432140;1388163974;ozbot;WPCS Announces Public Release Of Beta Version Of BTX Trading Platform 432141;1388164002;Bugpowder;just a micro cap pump and dump? 432142;1388164091;benkay;no way man they have a amazing pan-exchange trading execution thing totally going to rescue their business with a pivot into profitability 432143;1388164091;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 432144;1388164365;pankkake;https://cryptsy.freshdesk.com/support/discussions/topics/46514 not enough faces too many palms 432145;1388164366;ozbot;Please add Bernankoin - BEK : Cryptsy.com 432146;1388164559;benkay;why is this so surprising, pankkake? 432147;1388164568;benkay;in nature, success leads to imitators. 432148;1388164726;benkay;in computers, where there's a trivial cost to spin up (f.ex) a new altchain, the froth of imitators will be dominated by people who are kind of sort of with it, as they're going to outperform the derpy imitators who genuinely believe that they're changing the world or being a part of something or some shit like that. 432149;1388164730;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.04999999 = 0.3 BTC [-] 432150;1388164747;benkay;bernankoin just has too many legs to die, thanks to you :) 432151;1388164773;jurov;you mean heads? 432152;1388164777;jurov;not legs 432153;1388164823;benkay;well there's only pankkake heading the thing up 432154;1388164837;benkay;the legs'd be a million 'me-too'-ers 432155;1388164859;pankkake;people complain I'm not "promoting" it enough lol 432156;1388164865;jurov;dunno how many heads pankkake has 432157;1388164879;pankkake;I have a few people in my head 432158;1388164906;benkay;i think i saw Vexual talking to himself in -assets last night 432159;1388164940;jurov;what? that happened ever since he arrived 432160;1388164974;benkay;true, true. 432161;1388165021;jurov;in short, we are a legion 432162;1388165149;benkay;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-12-2013#432070 432163;1388165151;ozbot;#bitcoin-assets log 432164;1388165151;benkay;that one though 432165;1388165156;benkay;actually addressing himself 432166;1388165264;jurov;lol i missed that 432167;1388165464;jurov;to me it looks like markov chain generation 432168;1388165504;jurov;vexual might try to place bounty to whoever discovers the source for his generator 432169;1388165516;jurov;not sure if that helps him, tho 432170;1388165670;benkay;"hello, -assets? yes, i've lost my other personality's Markov chain generator. will someone escrow a dogecoin bounty?" 432171;1388165835;jurov;i had in mind something else, like, replacing the corpus 432172;1388165845;jurov;by trilema articles, perhaps? 432173;1388166168;benkay;romanian's going to make for some messy chains 432174;1388166184;benkay;pietilla's posts? 432175;1388166324;jurov;they are mostly gone :( 432176;1388166579;Gotyawallet;no more supernode 432177;1388166666;mod6;lawl 432178;1388166983;Gotyawallet;WOW them new indian exchanges has some volumes 432179;1388167673;ThickAsThieves;http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/27/5248004/federal-judge-rules-nsa-metadata-collection-is-lawful-dismissing-aclu 432180;1388167673;ozbot;Federal judge rules NSA metadata collection is lawful, dismissing ACLU case | The Verge 432181;1388167702;ThickAsThieves;"the question of whether that program should be conducted is for the other two coordinate branches of Government to decide." 432182;1388167887;benkay;"the rapist in charge of proceedings deferred to the team of rapists running the show outside the courtroom on the question of determining who should get raped and when." 432183;1388168176;asciilifeform;who, exactly, imagined that this would go differently? 432184;1388168187;asciilifeform;picture suing kgb in a soviet court. 432185;1388168436;Gotyawallet;Picture the KGB like you've never seen them before 432186;1388168437;Gotyawallet;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9sQZLtsfp8 432187;1388169001;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24550 @ 0.00085122 = 20.8975 BTC [-] 432188;1388169485;Bugpowder;that is a different case though, right? 432189;1388169847;jurov;"I'll also note that Filch was remarkably unpleasant to the children in Hogwarts and I expect the school's hedonic index to be improved by his departure, not that it matters to you, I suppose." 432190;1388169861;jurov;hpmor on it again :D 432191;1388170159;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 220 @ 0.001 = 0.22 BTC 432192;1388172355;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.07705 = 0.4623 BTC [+] {3} 432193;1388172478;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.02499991 = 0.25 BTC [-] 432194;1388173392;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 43 @ 0.04999999 = 2.15 BTC [-] 432195;1388173636;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 39 @ 0.2809232 = 10.956 BTC [-] {6} 432196;1388174472;Gotyawallet;Hrmph. 432197;1388176198;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 8 @ 0.02389999 = 0.1912 BTC [-] 432198;1388176387;benkay;!l m s.mpoe 432199;1388176387;assbot;Last trade for S.MPOE on MPEX was at 0.00085122 BTC [-] 432200;1388176625;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1500 @ 0.001 = 1.5 BTC 432201;1388176686;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 22 @ 0.0488973 = 1.0757 BTC [-] {5} 432202;1388176747;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 27 @ 0.04795563 = 1.2948 BTC [-] {4} 432203;1388176808;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.04756 = 0.5232 BTC [-] 432204;1388177357;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17900 @ 0.00085313 = 15.271 BTC [+] {3} 432205;1388178332;benkay;mpoe back to 90k? 432206;1388178455;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.29499797 = 1.18 BTC [+] 432207;1388178516;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 118 @ 0.00291 = 0.3434 BTC [+] {2} 432208;1388178577;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 87 @ 0.00291998 = 0.254 BTC [+] {3} 432209;1388178638;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 87 @ 0.00291998 = 0.254 BTC [+] {2} 432210;1388180041;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20200 @ 0.00085122 = 17.1946 BTC [-] 432211;1388180641;benkay;17 btc sez nope. 432212;1388181017;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00085463 = 6.4097 BTC [+] {2} 432213;1388181871;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 200 @ 0.001 = 0.2 BTC 432214;1388182664;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.29499997 BTC [+] 432215;1388183579;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 49 @ 0.00291996 = 0.1431 BTC [-] 432216;1388184096;FabianB_;;;calc 1/0.00260000 432217;1388184096;gribble;384.615384615 432218;1388184125;FabianB_;;;ticker --last --currency eur 432219;1388184126;gribble;569.01 432220;1388184189;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 53 @ 0.0028102 = 0.1489 BTC [-] {2} 432221;1388184556;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15740 @ 0.000851 = 13.3947 BTC [-] {2} 432222;1388186012;jurov;$avg 432223;1388186013;mpexbot;jurov: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. 432224;1388186278;benkay;colleague and i were just noodling on the topic of using a cardano for deploys 432225;1388186502;deadweasel;;;ticker 432226;1388186503;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 793.429, Best ask: 799.97498, Bid-ask spread: 6.54598, Last trade: 799.97498, 24 hour volume: 13963.13789770, 24 hour low: 768.0, 24 hour high: 837.0, 24 hour vwap: 798.84032 432227;1388187089;benkay;another crazy vix month 432228;1388188215;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22521 @ 0.00085484 = 19.2519 BTC [+] 432229;1388188351;benkay;and yet the mpoe buys keep pouring in 432230;1388188749;jurov;!t m ^oix 432231;1388188749;assbot;[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / 66.44661388 / 66.44661388 (3 shares, 0.07 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC) 432232;1388188821;jurov;there's a mess with these 3 calls somehow 432233;1388188901;jurov;3x O.USD.C065T were bought at .02177107 , they will break even at 830.89 432234;1388188913;jurov;not at 664.46 432235;1388188935;jurov;or did i forgot something about oix? 432236;1388189110;asciilifeform;benkay: if you're still there - care to say more? 432237;1388189184;jurov;kakobrekla: and it seems assbot doesn't show puts data 432238;1388189216;jurov;mpex says OIX for puts is 0.07 (100.0 / 0.0) 432239;1388189217;benkay;asciilifeform: encrypt shell script that when sourced sets environment variables with cardano key 432240;1388189258;asciilifeform;benkay: i think i'm missing something here 432241;1388189269;asciilifeform;cardano key? 432242;1388189270;benkay;plug cardano into server, decrypt shell script, run and set environment variables for application. 432243;1388189283;benkay;well, public key corresponding to private key on cardano. 432244;1388189290;benkay;encrypt *to* 432245;1388189293;benkay;do forgive my imprecision. 432246;1388189297;asciilifeform;say enemy has control of server. 432247;1388189311;asciilifeform;he lifts the payload (script) out, does what he likes 432248;1388189328;benkay;if enemy has control of server they can lift environment variables right out 432249;1388189343;benkay;this is for managing deploy variables in such a way that repo can get compromised 432250;1388189344;asciilifeform;likewise, if cardano is left unattended in a cage, enemy can walk off with it. 432251;1388189357;mod6;well this page: http://trilema.com/2013/introducing-the-oix/ says that it should be: 650/(1-.02177107) * Trade Vol / Total Vol | in this case = 83.08946575 ~ $830.8946575 432252;1388189365;mod6;so yeah, not sure... 432253;1388189366;benkay;yes, of course. this is why you pull C out of a safe when booting new application instance. 432254;1388189386;benkay;and put it back in the safe after application has been booted. 432255;1388189415;asciilifeform;what i'm unclear on is: what is being protected? 432256;1388189421;mod6;bah, my bad: 650/(1-.02177107) = 830.89465751 432257;1388189432;benkay;secrets in the repository. 432258;1388189437;mod6;i did `65' the first time. 432259;1388189507;mod6;hmmmm 432260;1388189601;asciilifeform;my understanding is that: in this case you would be using cardano merely as a disk? 432261;1388189612;asciilifeform;i'm still not sure how it adds anything here 432262;1388189647;asciilifeform;the reason i'm piping up, is that i don't want any misconceptions floating about regarding what C is for. 432263;1388189678;asciilifeform;most importantly, it is not designed to resist physical dissection. 432264;1388189702;jurov;asciilifeform: it will be used to sign resulting binary or tarball? 432265;1388189708;asciilifeform;because 1) it is cost-prohibitive, and more importatly, 2) flies in the face of auditability 432266;1388189718;asciilifeform;sure, you can sign a tarball 432267;1388189728;asciilifeform;but it is unwise to keep cardano in an unmanned facility. 432268;1388189733;benkay;not as a disk no, but to decrypt a file of environmental variables describing cluster provisioning. 432269;1388189768;asciilifeform;then enemy will read the machine's memory and walk off with secret. 432270;1388189796;asciilifeform;this is usually trivial. 432271;1388189798;benkay;sure. 432272;1388189806;benkay;once cluster is compromised, cluster is compromised. 432273;1388189833;asciilifeform;likewise, enemy will use the unattended cardano to sign the diddled tars. 432274;1388190033;jurov;iirc there will be serial number of files encrypted/signed? 432275;1388190067;jurov;maybe you can put the serial right inside signature's date field.. so that it can be checked 432276;1388190081;jurov;and hell raised if the value is not expected 432277;1388190375;asciilifeform;it is important to understand that once an enemy captures a cardano and lifts the private key, he can sign whatever he pleases. 432278;1388190451;jurov;yes, we're talking about connecting cardano to (remotely) pwned server 432279;1388190488;jurov;checking this serial won't help with diddling, but allows the attacker only one try 432280;1388191265;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00085323 = 8.3617 BTC [-] {2} 432281;1388195061;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo http://trilema.com/2013/the-typologies-of-homosexuality-reprint/ 432282;1388195473;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Much more polished than my attempt. 432283;1388195474;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25778 @ 0.00085159 = 21.9523 BTC [-] 432284;1388195499;mircea_popescu;it actually took a fluent romanian speaker / native english to make the first draft and half hour of my time to correct it 432285;1388195509;mircea_popescu;translation is about 5x as difficult as writing, who knew. 432286;1388195530;nubbins`;"the courage to ignore orthodoxy in favor of truth" 432287;1388195540;nubbins`;few people make this identification 432288;1388195652;nubbins`;admittedly only skimmed the rest of the article beyond part 1 432289;1388195700;mircea_popescu;:p 432290;1388195744;mircea_popescu;so i left my erlenmeyer tuica glass with a little on the bottom and went to bed 432291;1388195752;mircea_popescu;now i have fifty hundred drunk gnats all over 432292;1388195753;mircea_popescu;why ;/ 432293;1388195758;nubbins`;noooo 432294;1388195765;nubbins`;time to create a gnat trap 432295;1388195772;mircea_popescu;brb buying sparrows 432296;1388195776;nubbins`;heh 432297;1388195780;nubbins`;nah, too complicated 432298;1388195841;nubbins`;http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll45/huntleygang/idearoom/fruitfly2-1.jpg 432299;1388195857;mircea_popescu;o wow srsly ? 432300;1388195860;nubbins`;^ you can also cut a plastic beverage bottle in half to construct much the same thing 432301;1388195861;mircea_popescu;they don't find the hole ? 432302;1388195861;nubbins`;yeah 432303;1388195865;nubbins`;they're idiots 432304;1388195868;mircea_popescu;hahaha poor things 432305;1388195874;nubbins`;this is how lobsters are caught too, incidentally 432306;1388195877;mircea_popescu;no, see, it's just they have very specialised sensing apparata 432307;1388195881;mircea_popescu;and can't dose "fresh air" 432308;1388195888;mircea_popescu;can dose alcohol very well! 432309;1388195891;nubbins`;nod 432310;1388195902;nubbins`;red wine is the classic bait, but it's a bit of a waste of wine 432311;1388195906;mircea_popescu;then again... why'd they want to get out. 432312;1388195908;nubbins`;judging by the picture, rotting fruit works too 432313;1388195986;nubbins`;ah, here we go, a bit more classic: http://www.bottlebiology.org/graphics/flytrap/build3.gif 432314;1388196001;btclovernick;what is mpex 432315;1388196015;nubbins`;an exchange 432316;1388196037;btclovernick;ok 432317;1388196043;btclovernick;what can i buy and sell 432318;1388196049;btclovernick;what is s.mpoe 432319;1388196053;btclovernick;s.bbet 432320;1388196057;btclovernick;what is s.mg 432321;1388196061;btclovernick;what is s.nsa 432322;1388196077;nubbins`;i invite you to read the respective IPOs, but they're all funds for various business-y things 432323;1388196093;btclovernick;ok 432324;1388196096;btclovernick;where is the ipo 432325;1388196110;nubbins`;just click the link and read :D 432326;1388196126;nubbins`;very difficult to get lost on that website, it's pretty straight forward 432327;1388196161;nubbins`;granted, the reading is a bit dry, but that's just because they haven't commissioned any of these documents to be remade in graphic novel format 432328;1388196166;btclovernick;ok 432329;1388196172;btclovernick;http://bitbet.us/ 432330;1388196173;btclovernick;what is this 432331;1388196179;btclovernick;why is this listed 432332;1388196181;nubbins`;looks like a betting website 432333;1388196186;nubbins`;and it's listed because they own it 432334;1388196200;nubbins`;or at least a portion of it 432335;1388196204;btclovernick;ok 432336;1388196209;ArsKisS;wutwut, sbfs rising again 432337;1388196211;btclovernick;how do u list another bitcoin site 432338;1388196221;btclovernick;what do u think of coinsetter 432339;1388196228;btclovernick;they just raised 1.5mn $ today in nyc 432340;1388196232;nubbins`;not knowing anything about it, i don't think much of it 432341;1388196235;nubbins`;i'm sure it's lovely tho :D 432342;1388196244;mircea_popescu;nubbins` well i made one out of foil and double tape, lessee 432343;1388196255;btclovernick;ru make of mpex 432344;1388196257;nubbins`;i think generally the listing requirements for mpex are a bit more stringent than other places 432345;1388196265;mircea_popescu;btclovernick did you read the contracts ? 432346;1388196272;nubbins`;mircea_popescu: i wonder will the foil confuse them 432347;1388196289;mircea_popescu;heh they're on it. 432348;1388196291;nubbins`;if it's not full of corpses tomorrow, consider paper 432349;1388196294;nubbins`;ah great! 432350;1388196299;mircea_popescu;why;d it confuse them ? 432351;1388196301;mircea_popescu;they're half blind 432352;1388196305;nubbins`;no idea, just guessing 432353;1388196316;mircea_popescu;i like foil cause it makes their efforts audible. 432354;1388196321;nubbins`;ah, the thrill of the hunt! 432355;1388196338;nubbins`;stick a contact mic on the bottle and record their death screams 432356;1388196353;mircea_popescu;double tape is also made for this application 432357;1388196364;mircea_popescu;i bought a roll years ago moving in here, cause i was buying shit 432358;1388196380;mircea_popescu;never had occasion to use except to fix girl's improbable cleavage clings and now to catc hgnats. 432359;1388196457;nubbins`;so i made some moose sausage today: http://imgur.com/W646MP2 432360;1388196467;mircea_popescu;ArsKisS the who ? 432361;1388196474;nubbins`;slowly getting better at it. 432362;1388196540;mircea_popescu;looks noobish :D 432363;1388196543;ArsKisS;mircea_popescu, nobody 432364;1388196567;nubbins`;mircea_popescu: funny, that ;) 432365;1388196614;nubbins`;slowly learning to plump up loose fills by adding links of appropriate length 432366;1388196641;nubbins`;http://imgur.com/lzDd9Zw 432367;1388196642;ozbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 432368;1388196648;mircea_popescu;aha 432369;1388196668;mircea_popescu;what do you use for membrane ? 432370;1388196688;nubbins`;collagen casings 432371;1388196693;nubbins`;made from beef hide or something 432372;1388196708;nubbins`;guts are actually hard to find 432373;1388196720;mircea_popescu;it shows. 432374;1388196744;mircea_popescu;actual guts actually help you a lot with shaping the sausage 432375;1388196756;nubbins`;yeah, real guts are much more flexible too 432376;1388196769;nubbins`;i've popped a few links because of the collagen's lack of give 432377;1388196785;nubbins`;you also don't get that nice "snap" when you bite down into collagen 432378;1388196787;mircea_popescu;the solution obv is to hunt your own meece. 432379;1388196795;mircea_popescu;they always come with enough guts to make sausage. 432380;1388196808;nubbins`;nod, the ultimate convenience food 432381;1388196820;nubbins`;it's like if pizzas were born with boxes inside them. 432382;1388196821;mircea_popescu;this is how people ended up religious in the first place 432383;1388196828;nubbins`;haha 432384;1388196834;mircea_popescu;"how come an animal has just enough guts in it to make sausage ?" 432385;1388196843;nubbins`;"he came with just enough blood to make a sacrifice" 432386;1388196845;mircea_popescu;yup 432387;1388196848;Duffer1;lol 432388;1388196853;mircea_popescu;i kid you not. 432389;1388196854;nubbins`;i imagine moose have HUGE poop chutes 432390;1388196867;mircea_popescu;nubbins` not really much bigger than what you're used to 432391;1388196871;mircea_popescu;if you watch a lot of porn 432392;1388196886;nubbins`;ah, hm 432393;1388196905;nubbins`;anyway, the collagen will do for now until i find a source 432394;1388196913;nubbins`;still a few butchers i haven't called 432395;1388196923;mircea_popescu;call all the bitches! 432396;1388196926;mircea_popescu;s/bitches/butchers 432397;1388196942;nubbins`;oh, i will 432398;1388196952;nubbins`;when i try something new, i go full throttle 432399;1388196989;nubbins`;honestly this all came about because i was eating some nice pepperoni in here when you mentioned something about dried salami a few weeks ago 432400;1388197006;nubbins`;and then the next day, i was given a few pounds of moose sausage 432401;1388197009;nubbins`;it flipped a switch 432402;1388197037;mircea_popescu;ha 432403;1388197063;nubbins`;anyway! guests are here, peace 432404;1388198951;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 66 @ 0.00290838 = 0.192 BTC [-] 432405;1388199334;the20year2;you using moose intestines for sausage? 432406;1388199412;the20year2;Well, sausage casings 432407;1388199569;mircea_popescu;.d 432408;1388199569;ozbot;1180923195.25803 | Next Diff in 871 blocks | Estimated Change: 17.8101% in 4d 22h 56m 33s 432409;1388200468;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/mpoe-december-2013-statement/ 432410;1388200468;ozbot;MPOE, December 2013 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 432411;1388201239;the20year2;so are you paying a dividend? 432412;1388201275;mircea_popescu;yea. 432413;1388201447;the20year2;k, was trying to find that part 432414;1388201961;toffoo;what happened with the mpex options market? 432415;1388202244;mircea_popescu;toffoo what are you asking ? 432416;1388202313;toffoo;I haven't seen many of those options trades that used to print in this channel. has volume dropped a lot? 432417;1388202335;mircea_popescu;~1.1k btc nominal traded last month 432418;1388202349;mircea_popescu;they tend to move in large chunks, when they do. 432419;1388202361;toffoo;is that a lot less than what it used to be? 432420;1388202379;mircea_popescu;if i recall correctly the record is ~500k notional. 432421;1388202446;toffoo;I'm somewhat surprised that during the last huge price spike/crash that your options market wasn't more active 432422;1388202450;mircea_popescu;me too. 432423;1388202467;mircea_popescu;amusingly, people tend to buy more options when the market is flat than when it moves. 432424;1388202490;mircea_popescu;i suspect the human brain can't quite cope with btc volatility so then they seem "expensive" 432425;1388202640;Duffer1;your options participants are speculators above all else, it seems natural for them to consider the fiat value of btc 432426;1388202648;Duffer1;"cheap" or "expensive" 432427;1388202753;mircea_popescu;i meant something more along these lines : if you go to a fellow and say "pay me a dime and you can get two dollars if the price of grain dubles in a month" he will consider this cheap. 432428;1388202775;mircea_popescu;if however you say "give me half a bitcoin and you can have two if bitcoin doubles in a month" he will consider this expensive 432429;1388202789;Duffer1;i see 432430;1388202793;mircea_popescu;notwithstanding that btc prices have doubled five of the past twenty months, and grain prices have not doubled any one of the past 1500 months 432431;1388202991;toffoo;I'm also somewhat surprised that whoever is running the bot's vol book hasn't blown up yet 432432;1388203017;mircea_popescu;you don't really know how that works do you ? 432433;1388203033;toffoo;probably not 432434;1388203067;mircea_popescu;may i direct you to the age old http://trilema.com/2012/sa-ne-jucam-de-a-investitiile-n-bitcoini/ 432435;1388203072;mircea_popescu;it's all explained in there. 432436;1388203088;toffoo;no hablo romanian 432437;1388203102;mircea_popescu;there's an english version 432438;1388203214;toffoo;oh right, it's the bond holders who own the bot's vol risk? is that how it works? 432439;1388203289;mircea_popescu;yeah 432440;1388203336;mircea_popescu;there's been some synthetics published too, 432441;1388203336;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/mpoe-bonds-historical-data-dec-2012-nov-2013/ 432442;1388203337;ozbot;MPOE bonds historical data, Dec 2012 - Nov 2013 pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 432443;1388203345;mircea_popescu;link within for the previous 16 months or w/e 432444;1388204502;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22070 @ 0.00085162 = 18.7953 BTC [+] {2} 432445;1388205783;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38248 @ 0.00085359 = 32.6481 BTC [+] {2} 432446;1388207984;Duffer1;vexual around? 432447;1388208894;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.286 BTC [-] 432448;1388208955;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 4 @ 0.0315001 = 0.126 BTC [-] 432449;1388210785;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13650 @ 0.0008506 = 11.6107 BTC [-] {2} 432450;1388212798;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.00084935 = 12.8252 BTC [-] {2} 432451;1388213774;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.29 = 0.87 BTC [+] 432452;1388213835;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 73 @ 0.00282439 = 0.2062 BTC [-] 432453;1388214079;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29520 @ 0.00085279 = 25.1744 BTC [+] 432454;1388214079;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 53 @ 0.02350011 = 1.2455 BTC [-] {2} 432455;1388214811;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 60 @ 0.00282439 = 0.1695 BTC [-] 432456;1388214812;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46600 @ 0.00085367 = 39.781 BTC [+] {2} 432457;1388214872;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 242 @ 0.00282439 = 0.6835 BTC [-] {2} 432458;1388214994;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.0650001 = 0.325 BTC [+] 432459;1388218288;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8397 @ 0.00085388 = 7.17 BTC [+] 432460;1388219081;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30450 @ 0.0008546 = 26.0226 BTC [+] {2} 432461;1388220911;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00286 = 0.143 BTC [+] 432462;1388221460;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27300 @ 0.00085491 = 23.339 BTC [+] {2} 432463;1388223839;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 37 @ 0.00286 = 0.1058 BTC [+] 432464;1388223955;Duffer1;https://hashfast.com/hashfast-customer-update/ 432465;1388223991;Duffer1;Hashfast set to start shipping Batch 1 by Dec 31. Batch one is roughly 225Th 432466;1388224262;Duffer1;That's on the low end since that 225 figure is calculated @ 400gh per babyjet. More recent numbers show 500gh min 432467;1388225242;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.05800121 = 0.174 BTC [-] 432468;1388225303;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.29 BTC [+] 432469;1388226523;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5750 @ 0.00085391 = 4.91 BTC [-] 432470;1388226950;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.00085391 = 11.6986 BTC [-] 432471;1388227767;Gotyawallet;Bitcoin is racist, see. http://i.imgur.com/IWenXrp.jpg 432472;1388228562;Gotyawallet;Oh thats cool mpex and coinbr mentioned in cnn (finance) (fortune) on Dec. 5. Missed that one. 432473;1388228758;Gotyawallet;"Midday Wednesday, MPEx appeared to shut down, and the prices of the contracts disappeared." 432474;1388228782;Gotyawallet;That must have been that hack or failure incident a while back didnt follow too closely. 432475;1388228938;BingoBoingo;Gotyawallet: It was bitcoincharts failing to feed the bot data 432476;1388228969;BingoBoingo;When the datastream disappears the bot stops quoting and cancels its orders 432477;1388228976;BingoBoingo;MPEx was indeed up 432478;1388229146;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29950 @ 0.00085271 = 25.5387 BTC [-] {3} 432479;1388229466;Gotyawallet;ah ok 432480;1388229498;Gotyawallet;thought it was cool the exchanges were mentioned in cnn/fortune 432481;1388230305;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 6 @ 0.05800121 = 0.348 BTC [-] 432482;1388230915;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42742 @ 0.00085198 = 36.4153 BTC [-] 432483;1388232074;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.29 = 1.74 BTC [+] 432484;1388232318;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27307 @ 0.00085411 = 23.3232 BTC [+] {2} 432485;1388233172;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6666 @ 0.00085483 = 5.6983 BTC [+] 432486;1388235063;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.293 BTC [+] 432487;1388235124;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.29459997 = 2.946 BTC [+] {4} 432488;1388235246;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.29499997 = 2.95 BTC [+] {3} 432489;1388235795;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5134 @ 0.00085198 = 4.3741 BTC [-] 432490;1388236039;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1350 @ 0.00011 = 0.1485 BTC [+] {2} 432491;1388236162;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4313 @ 0.00085198 = 3.6746 BTC [-] 432492;1388236222;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 102 @ 0.00281499 = 0.2871 BTC [+] {3} 432493;1388237260;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35655 @ 0.00084989 = 30.3028 BTC [-] {2} 432494;1388237442;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24200 @ 0.00084822 = 20.5269 BTC [-] {2} 432495;1388239028;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2037 @ 0.00085155 = 1.7346 BTC [+] 432496;1388240797;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38100 @ 0.00085178 = 32.4528 BTC [+] 432497;1388241041;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16500 @ 0.00085254 = 14.0669 BTC [+] 432498;1388241102;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18081 @ 0.00085108 = 15.3884 BTC [-] {2} 432499;1388242653;bittalk;Anyone that wants to buy a 2th/s miner with us ? we're 2 guys looking to invest in it :) 432500;1388242810;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] [PAID] 4.26418300 BTC to 86`900 shares, 4907 satoshi per share 432501;1388243192;dexX7;which one? 432502;1388245433;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.04699989 = 0.188 BTC [-] 432503;1388245555;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 170 @ 0.0010777 = 0.1832 BTC [+] {7} 432504;1388247324;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12050 @ 0.00084795 = 10.2178 BTC [-] {2} 432505;1388247385;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.295 = 0.885 BTC [+] 432506;1388247568;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 17 @ 0.30278763 = 5.1474 BTC [+] {7} 432507;1388249154;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19022 @ 0.0008481 = 16.1326 BTC [+] 432508;1388249810;mod6;;;bc,stats 432509;1388249812;gribble;Current Blocks: 277424 | Current Difficulty: 1.1809231952580261E9 | Next Difficulty At Block: 278207 | Next Difficulty In: 783 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 4 days, 20 hours, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 1384992701.55 | Estimated Percent Change: 17.28051 432510;1388249862;mod6;;;tslb 432511;1388249866;gribble;Time since last block: 32 minutes and 36 seconds 432512;1388250130;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6297 @ 0.0008481 = 5.3405 BTC [+] 432513;1388250191;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17766 @ 0.00085031 = 15.1066 BTC [+] 432514;1388250435;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21750 @ 0.00085031 = 18.4942 BTC [+] 432515;1388250801;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38400 @ 0.00084739 = 32.5398 BTC [-] {2} 432516;1388251350;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 12 @ 0.02440001 = 0.2928 BTC [-] 432517;1388251351;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25004 @ 0.00085031 = 21.2612 BTC [+] 432518;1388251655;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 7 @ 0.02399999 = 0.168 BTC [-] 432519;1388252082;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 120 @ 0.001 = 0.12 BTC 432520;1388254095;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.29000012 BTC [-] 432521;1388254217;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 103 @ 0.00280378 = 0.2888 BTC [-] {3} 432522;1388254269;kakobrekla;your best new blockchain reader http://blockr.io/home 432523;1388254439;mod6;cool 432524;1388255437;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1200 @ 0.00010999 = 0.132 BTC [-] 432525;1388255559;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00085011 = 3.4855 BTC [-] 432526;1388255681;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19000 @ 0.00085011 = 16.1521 BTC [-] 432527;1388256413;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 500 @ 0.00279914 = 1.3996 BTC [+] {3} 432528;1388256474;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1166 @ 0.00281891 = 3.2868 BTC [+] {6} 432529;1388256596;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 250 @ 0.00285 = 0.7125 BTC [-] {4} 432530;1388258121;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19300 @ 0.00084863 = 16.3786 BTC [-] 432531;1388258204;benkay;mpbor up to 14.5 percent 432532;1388258206;benkay;goodness 432533;1388258731;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11263 @ 0.00084863 = 9.5581 BTC [-] 432534;1388262574;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.29000021 = 0.58 BTC [+] {2} 432535;1388262618;asciilifeform;for electronics junkies - chronicle of the motor controller affair: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1401 432536;1388263152;mike_c;wow, impressive resurrection 432537;1388263266;mike_c;i'm surprised the pcb wasn't damaged. i guess those things are pretty resilient. 432538;1388264573;asciilifeform;mike_c: it was scorched a bit in the fireball, but the traces remained. 432539;1388264601;asciilifeform;the most surprising find was that the chip maker clearly specified heat sinking, and there was none. 432540;1388264660;kakobrekla;found the same on my new gpu 432541;1388264673;kakobrekla;nothing blown yet though 432542;1388264815;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla you buy gpus w/o heat sinks ? is it 1992 yet ?! 432543;1388264837;asciilifeform;still '92 around here, i buy fanless cards only. 432544;1388264842;asciilifeform;fat hedgehogs on them, though 432545;1388264850;mircea_popescu;my gpu looks more like a failed suv 432546;1388264854;mircea_popescu;all this retarded plastic shit 432547;1388264913;asciilifeform;my fave gpu story: in '02, living in a uni dorm, ruptured coolant hose, ended with gpu that gives 'snow' in the picture, a la CGA card 432548;1388264926;asciilifeform;at night, we removed one fellow's expensive 'radeon' and slid that one in. 432549;1388264974;mircea_popescu;wow 432550;1388264994;mircea_popescu;the snow actually happensd on modern cards ?! 432551;1388265000;asciilifeform;water damage can do very interesting things to electronics, not necessarily total death 432552;1388265000;kakobrekla;o yeah, gpu and water stories. got plenty of those. 432553;1388265055;mircea_popescu;http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/83/Arachne_CGA_stretched.png 432554;1388265070;asciilifeform;good old arachne. 432555;1388265075;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 17 @ 0.0231606 = 0.3937 BTC [-] {7} 432556;1388265086;asciilifeform;had a built-in ppp dialer, too. 432557;1388265108;mircea_popescu;that half worked 432558;1388265136;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 185 @ 0.00266618 = 0.4932 BTC [-] {12} 432559;1388265258;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26300 @ 0.00084839 = 22.3127 BTC [-] {3} 432560;1388265295;mircea_popescu;"On September 3rd, my dad died due to a very agressive and rare cancer of the kidney called collecting-duct carcinoma just six weeks after first experiencing symptoms. This was nine months to the day after my mom died from metastasized breast cancer two years after her initial diagnosis. 432561;1388265295;mircea_popescu;I've learned a lot from witnessing their deaths." 432562;1388265309;mircea_popescu;somehow he has failed to learn that it's fucking insane to have both parents die to a RARE DISEASE 432563;1388265330;mircea_popescu;for instance, i have three cousins which are all 19 and all married last summer, living in the same small town. 432564;1388265343;mircea_popescu;20k people. a total of FIVE died of cancer the year these three girls got married. 432565;1388265378;kakobrekla;yeah so he found a block on cpu 432566;1388265445;mircea_popescu;with both cpus. 432567;1388265451;mircea_popescu;and those are the only two he gets. 432568;1388265475;kakobrekla;stranger things have happend 432569;1388265571;mircea_popescu;this strange thing happens all the time to these people. something's gotta give, nobody's this lucky. 432570;1388265685;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21670 @ 0.00084713 = 18.3573 BTC [-] {2} 432571;1388265701;kakobrekla;"these people"? 432572;1388265704;kakobrekla;who are these 432573;1388265861;mircea_popescu;well it seems to be mostly a us thing. 432574;1388265990;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00084684 = 8.4684 BTC [-] 432575;1388266435;kakobrekla;stop slandering the american dream 432576;1388266470;mircea_popescu;pls insert plastic didlo in available collecting ducts 432577;1388266546;kakobrekla;btw where did wences go? 432578;1388266894;mircea_popescu;argentina ? 432579;1388267250;Gotyawallet;plastic dildos will not be found in #bitcoin-anal 432580;1388268064;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1100 @ 0.00011 = 0.121 BTC [+] 432581;1388268153;Duffer1;so.. paul krugman wrote another 'i don't understand therefore you're stupid' article regarding bitcoin 432582;1388268161;Duffer1;how did that guy win a nobel price? 432583;1388268173;twizt;he proved that you earn interest 432584;1388268174;twizt;faster 432585;1388268177;twizt;orbiting the earth 432586;1388268177;mircea_popescu;because they're recognigtion prizes not accomplishment prizes. 432587;1388268180;twizt;than you do on the ground 432588;1388268181;Duffer1;lol 432589;1388268187;twizt;so if you had a bank account orbiting around space 432590;1388268196;twizt;in theory you're earning interest faster 432591;1388268202;twizt;and cuz he proved that, he got a noble 432592;1388268211;mircea_popescu;haha no, not really. 432593;1388268217;mircea_popescu;he did some useful work re trade geography 432594;1388268235;mircea_popescu;the problem is, with the suyper-specialised way we got things going, anyone can do useful work and still be a retard. 432595;1388268251;twizt;http://www.princeton.edu/~pkrugman/interstellar.pdf 432596;1388268251;mircea_popescu;kinda why accomplishment prizes are an impossibility, nobody's actually accomplishing anything anymore, 432597;1388268251;Duffer1;ya i figured twizt wasn't being literal :P 432598;1388268254;mircea_popescu;they just push the levers 432599;1388268371;twizt;no i was being literal 432600;1388268473;Duffer1;ah interstellar trade theory 432601;1388268477;Duffer1;sounds useful 432602;1388268692;pankkake;http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-12-27/how-ultra-rich-chinese-men-find-their-wives 432603;1388268694;ozbot;How Ultra-Rich Chinese Men Find Their Wives | Zero Hedge 432604;1388268853;mircea_popescu;pankkake do tell ? 432605;1388268925;mircea_popescu;hahaha ridoinculous 432606;1388268937;mircea_popescu;no, that's not how ultra rich people, chinese, russian or otherwise, find wives. 432607;1388268968;mircea_popescu;that's how otherwise unemployable jewish old women tell impressionable young women and especially their mothers that ultra rich people find wives, for very transparent reasons. 432608;1388268980;pankkake;wives find them? 432609;1388269004;mircea_popescu;if the rich didn't inherit but made their wealth, they made it atop of a far reaching network of collaborators and informats. 432610;1388269015;mircea_popescu;those are just as able to fineagle a great woman as they are to find you a great deal. 432611;1388269038;mircea_popescu;after all, business has to be found, too, and wants to be found by the right guy just as much as women do. 432612;1388269062;mircea_popescu;course random retard writing for random weblog doth not know this, and couldn't, seeing how he's neither rich 432613;1388269064;mircea_popescu;nor ever will be. 432614;1388269106;asciilifeform;well, in prc they have the 3rd kind of rich: not inherited, but not really built with his own hands 432615;1388269113;asciilifeform;'crown privilege' 432616;1388269114;mircea_popescu;this may be true 432617;1388269124;mircea_popescu;and it's exactly what the guy making the parties is trying to achieve. 432618;1388269139;asciilifeform;'mr. hui is hereby granted the crown concession of fleecing american pigs.' 432619;1388269165;mircea_popescu;course it's not particularly a bad model he's got. if you spend ten years placing hot chicks in the marital beds of crown princes, 432620;1388269176;mircea_popescu;you can be the new president of that place, just asking a few favours in. 432621;1388269196;mircea_popescu;doubt he has the brains to run this properly, but anyway. 432622;1388269420;Gotyawallet;a btc fantasy football site would do well if there was one 432623;1388269435;mircea_popescu;go for it. 432624;1388269440;Gotyawallet;i cant stand ff 432625;1388269470;pankkake;as long as you understand it (I don't), why not? 432626;1388269471;mircea_popescu;lol well, maybe someone reading then 432627;1388269514;mike_c;it's complicated. not cheap to get the statistics, and the algorithms to price players isn't easy. 432628;1388269515;mircea_popescu;so anyway, i love zacusca, which is this eeuropean veggie preserve. it's a hassle to make tho, so after going to Cheng Yongsheng parties for zacusca makers looking for very rich patrons, 432629;1388269526;mircea_popescu;i found this brand which absolutely adds no chemicals to the brew whatsoever. 432630;1388269539;mircea_popescu;the net result ? i open a can, i eat as much as i can, i put it in the fridge. 432631;1388269552;mircea_popescu;then a day or two later i throw it out, and open a new one. because fuck me it molds in a day this thing 432632;1388269566;mircea_popescu;mike_c spoken like one who's tried this ? 432633;1388269582;mike_c;one who has done a decent amount of due diligence 432634;1388269596;mircea_popescu;wise man. 432635;1388269723;kakobrekla;ah this is like ajvar 432636;1388269738;kakobrekla;kako approves 432637;1388269870;mircea_popescu;>D 432638;1388269911;mircea_popescu;cooking it is a sight, too. it takes three girls about a day, and because of all the going pots it's pretty much easier to do it in the nude 432639;1388269915;mircea_popescu;well, with an apron. 432640;1388269964;mircea_popescu;"Volunteers come from all walks of life, which for some is a demonstration of Chinas movement in the direction of social equality." <<< ahahaha this kicks ass. 432641;1388269978;mircea_popescu;chinese rich men are open to fucking everything, from goats to your wife. all hail equality. 432642;1388270138;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19550 @ 0.00084689 = 16.5567 BTC [+] 432643;1388270146;mircea_popescu;Gotyawallet : i got one for ya : #bitcoin-kevetch 432644;1388270186;pankkake;kvetch? 432645;1388270203;mircea_popescu;yeah. 432646;1388270260;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24634 @ 0.00084689 = 20.8623 BTC [+] 432647;1388270443;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 700 @ 0.0008481 = 0.5937 BTC [+] 432648;1388270450;pankkake;I got a donation today. turns out asking for donations in READMEs can work! 432649;1388270581;kakobrekla;you merrican or what 432650;1388270583;kakobrekla;way too much luck 432651;1388270613;mod6;haha 432652;1388270632;mircea_popescu;lol 432653;1388270798;pankkake;it wasn't random though, it was for fixing the stuff 432654;1388270819;pankkake;but now I'm thinking I should list an address on my other software 432655;1388270827;mircea_popescu;definitely. 432656;1388270841;kakobrekla;dont bother 432657;1388270844;kakobrekla;its never gonna happen again 432658;1388271724;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2100 @ 0.00010002 = 0.21 BTC [-] {4} 432659;1388271905;Gotyawallet;Hmmm 432660;1388271907;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1465 @ 0.00008042 = 0.1178 BTC [-] {3} 432661;1388271957;Gotyawallet;Pay .02 to have voice for your kevetch. Not to be confused with Mitzvah 432662;1388272432;benkay;;;ud kevetch 432663;1388272433;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=kvetch | Piss and moan; whine; from the Yiddish; a person who habitually kvetches ( usually used for females) 432664;1388272434;ozbot;Urban Dictionary: kvetch 432665;1388272506;mircea_popescu;.L. 432666;1388272512;mircea_popescu;*lol 432667;1388272543;KRS|Gotyawallet;i had a girlfriend like that once 432668;1388272558;KRS|Gotyawallet;*everything* bothered her..the only time she was really quiet is when she was sucking. 432669;1388272639;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.0008481 = 8.057 BTC [+] 432670;1388272728;mircea_popescu;at least she sucked. 432671;1388272739;mircea_popescu;the always bothered type usually is always bothered for lack of such. 432672;1388273432;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17861 @ 0.0008463 = 15.1158 BTC [-] {3} 432673;1388273715;KRS|Gotyawallet;my g/f before that never did and that was worse..i'd rather hear a girl go on and on all day and know whats up than a bitch who is too good to give up some head. 432674;1388273746;KRS|Gotyawallet;i thinks its my most fav thing in the world really. 432675;1388273802;KRS|Gotyawallet;Ever see Eddie Murphy in "Coming to America" where the woman in the hot tub says "The royal penis is clean your highness"..I think if I could start every day like that, I would be a much better man..maybe a massage and a good breakfast too. 432676;1388273819;KRS|Gotyawallet;Then I would be able to start my day. 432677;1388273909;lucid_;lmao, I've had my girl recite that after sucking and swallowing 432678;1388273918;lucid_;king shit 432679;1388274188;KRS|Gotyawallet;THAT is awesome 432680;1388274408;assbot;[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 349 @ 0.00263157 = 0.9184 BTC [+] 432681;1388274673;kakobrekla;apparently a day of awesome costs less than a bitcoins or something 432682;1388274687;kakobrekla;-s 432683;1388274877;Diablo-D3;[06:36:44] Ever see Eddie Murphy in "Coming to America" where the woman in the hot tub says "The royal penis is clean your highness"..I think if I could start every day like that, I would be a much better man..maybe a massage and a good breakfast too. 432684;1388274880;Diablo-D3;it works. 432685;1388275018;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17300 @ 0.000845 = 14.6185 BTC [-] {2} 432686;1388275262;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7250 @ 0.00084468 = 6.1239 BTC [-] {4} 432687;1388275278;KRS|Gotyawallet;damn right. 432688;1388275567;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00266202 = 0.2662 BTC [-] {3} 432689;1388276482;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9981 @ 0.0008481 = 8.4649 BTC [+] 432690;1388278190;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.04999988 = 0.45 BTC [+] 432691;1388278495;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 150 @ 0.001 = 0.15 BTC 432692;1388279288;assbot;[MPEX] [S.BBET] 500 @ 0.0006 = 0.3 BTC [-] 432693;1388279622;benkay;!t m s.bbet 432694;1388279623;assbot;[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.0006 / 0.0006 / 0.0006 (500 shares, 0.30 BTC), 7D: 0.0006 / 0.0006 / 0.0006 (500 shares, 0.30 BTC), 30D: 0.0005 / 0.00060876 / 0.00068326 (6706 shares, 4.08 BTC) 432695;1388280142;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18300 @ 0.00084559 = 15.4743 BTC [-] {2} 432696;1388280386;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 837 @ 0.00084569 = 0.7078 BTC [+] {2} 432697;1388280630;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00084775 = 11.1055 BTC [+] 432698;1388281362;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.29000001 BTC [-] 432699;1388281583;Ziggy9263;I see. 432700;1388282521;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00084777 = 10.6819 BTC [+] {2} 432701;1388283131;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8582 @ 0.00084776 = 7.2755 BTC [-] {2} 432702;1388283192;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1062 @ 0.0008481 = 0.9007 BTC [+] 432703;1388283330;mircea_popescu;wtf 432704;1388283563;mircea_popescu;;;ticker 432705;1388283564;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 760.50001, Best ask: 762.4, Bid-ask spread: 1.89999, Last trade: 760.0, 24 hour volume: 12832.70068990, 24 hour low: 715.6, 24 hour high: 798.132, 24 hour vwap: 756.35794 432706;1388283619;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00084991 = 3.8246 BTC [+] 432707;1388284412;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10284 @ 0.00084978 = 8.7391 BTC [-] {2} 432708;1388285510;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.00084831 = 7.2955 BTC [-] 432709;1388286083;asciilifeform;;;later tell mircea_popescu sure, works for me. 432710;1388286083;gribble;The operation succeeded. 432711;1388287523;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9585 @ 0.00084624 = 8.1112 BTC [-] {2} 432712;1388287767;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14550 @ 0.00084515 = 12.2969 BTC [-] 432713;1388288438;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31100 @ 0.00084469 = 26.2699 BTC [-] {2} 432714;1388289353;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2636 @ 0.00084531 = 2.2282 BTC [+] 432715;1388290024;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12598 @ 0.00084995 = 10.7077 BTC [+] {2} 432716;1388291183;assbot;[MPEX] [S.BBET] 500 @ 0.0006 = 0.3 BTC [-] 432717;1388292525;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 14 @ 0.03799999 = 0.532 BTC [+] {2} 432718;1388293100;benkay`;!h 432719;1388293100;assbot;List of commands: 432720;1388293101;assbot;!ticker (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !t} 432721;1388293102;assbot;!last (desc: returns last price value, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !l} 432722;1388293103;assbot;!mp (desc: returns the response from MPEX order) 432723;1388293104;assbot;!rules (desc: chan guidelines) {short: !r} 432724;1388293105;assbot;!exchanges (desc: lists exchanges and brokers) {short: !e} 432725;1388293106;assbot;!jd (desc: returns relevant stats from https://just-dice.com) 432726;1388293107;assbot;!bash (desc: bashes last lines to bash) {short: !b} 432727;1388293108;assbot;!quote (desc: quotes last lines and returns dpaste url) {short: !q} 432728;1388293440;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00084576 = 13.5322 BTC [-] {3} 432729;1388293623;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1550 @ 0.00084978 = 1.3172 BTC [+] 432730;1388294257;benkay`;american academia: http://www.jwz.org/blog/ http://lolmythesis.com 432731;1388294271;benkay`;the jwz link should be: http://www.jwz.org/blog/2013/12/lol-my-thesis/ 432732;1388294321;Duffer1;"Looking for a reason to give up on humanity? Study climate change. That shit isn't changing back." 432733;1388296490;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8150 @ 0.00084978 = 6.9257 BTC [+] 432734;1388297649;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41263 @ 0.00084425 = 34.8363 BTC [-] {5} 432735;1388298137;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12233 @ 0.00084729 = 10.3649 BTC [+] {2} 432736;1388298198;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1902 @ 0.00084999 = 1.6167 BTC [+] 432737;1388298991;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00084999 = 6.9699 BTC [+] 432738;1388300333;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6520 @ 0.00084553 = 5.5129 BTC [-] {2} 432739;1388300455;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13569 @ 0.00085009 = 11.5349 BTC [+] {2} 432740;1388301004;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15700 @ 0.00085038 = 13.351 BTC [+] {2} 432741;1388301919;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2750 @ 0.00085049 = 2.3388 BTC [+] 432742;1388304054;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11350 @ 0.00085028 = 9.6507 BTC [-] 432743;1388305579;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15750 @ 0.00085028 = 13.3919 BTC [-] 432744;1388305884;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18400 @ 0.00085043 = 15.6479 BTC [+] {2} 432745;1388305945;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 5 @ 0.08545799 = 0.4273 BTC [+] {5} 432746;1388306006;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.08989998 = 0.1798 BTC [+] 432747;1388306067;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.08989999 = 0.2697 BTC [+] {2} 432748;1388307348;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 25 @ 0.02499871 = 0.625 BTC [+] {7} 432749;1388307592;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12613 @ 0.00085028 = 10.7246 BTC [-] 432750;1388307775;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 138 @ 0.001 = 0.138 BTC 432751;1388310032;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1718 @ 0.00085028 = 1.4608 BTC [-] 432752;1388311252;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8532 @ 0.00084651 = 7.2224 BTC [-] 432753;1388311435;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22450 @ 0.00085083 = 19.1011 BTC [+] {3} 432754;1388312289;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14100 @ 0.00084834 = 11.9616 BTC [-] 432755;1388314363;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 153 @ 0.00324 = 0.4957 BTC [+] 432756;1388314669;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16957 @ 0.00085177 = 14.4435 BTC [+] {2} 432757;1388315095;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12400 @ 0.00084831 = 10.519 BTC [-] {2} 432758;1388315461;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8450 @ 0.00084825 = 7.1677 BTC [-] 432759;1388316681;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6628 @ 0.00084812 = 5.6213 BTC [-] {2} 432760;1388316742;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3150 @ 0.00084808 = 2.6715 BTC [-] 432761;1388317230;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.00085222 = 11.0789 BTC [+] 432762;1388317596;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15800 @ 0.00085222 = 13.4651 BTC [+] 432763;1388318145;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12273 @ 0.00084779 = 10.4049 BTC [-] {2} 432764;1388318816;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 13 @ 0.09060768 = 1.1779 BTC [+] {4} 432765;1388319365;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7272 @ 0.00084909 = 6.1746 BTC [+] 432766;1388319914;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2015 @ 0.00084909 = 1.7109 BTC [+] 432767;1388320524;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00084909 = 7.6418 BTC [+] 432768;1388321439;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.0008495 = 7.3057 BTC [+] {2} 432769;1388321500;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 300 @ 0.0008514 = 0.2554 BTC [+] 432770;1388322049;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2476 @ 0.00084909 = 2.1023 BTC [-] 432771;1388322110;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4474 @ 0.00084751 = 3.7918 BTC [-] 432772;1388322232;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15718 @ 0.0008514 = 13.3823 BTC [+] 432773;1388323352;pankkake;http://finance.fortune.cnn.com/2013/12/24/overstock-ceo-bitcoin/ 432774;1388323352;ozbot;Overstock CEO: 'I don't own bitcoin, but I'm a fan' - The Term Sheet: Fortune's deals blogTerm Sheet 432775;1388323452;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.0008514 = 3.4056 BTC [+] 432776;1388323574;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.0008506 = 5.1887 BTC [-] 432777;1388323696;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10432 @ 0.00084751 = 8.8412 BTC [-] 432778;1388323717;idontcare1;hi 432779;1388324184;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10650 @ 0.00085088 = 9.0619 BTC [+] {3} 432780;1388324428;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.290002 BTC [+] 432781;1388324855;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13847 @ 0.00084651 = 11.7216 BTC [-] {3} 432782;1388325985;KRS|Gotyawallet;hi 432783;1388326012;KRS|Gotyawallet;pankkake ya got that one, great news isnt it 432784;1388326014;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20512 @ 0.00084944 = 17.4237 BTC [+] 432785;1388326040;KRS|Gotyawallet;Did you see the article finance.fortune.cnn.com did on mpex and coins.br 432786;1388326624;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1777 @ 0.00085199 = 1.514 BTC [+] 432787;1388326714;pankkake;yes, even saw the journalist coming here, it was… painful 432788;1388326893;KRS|Gotyawallet;ya 432789;1388327478;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16279 @ 0.00084737 = 13.7943 BTC [-] 432790;1388327504;VanCleef;mpex tanking, abort abort 432791;1388327516;KRS|Gotyawallet;quick, where's the red phone 432792;1388327530;VanCleef;someone get india and china on the phone and tell them to flush this crap 432793;1388327546;KRS|Gotyawallet;someone call Fontas 432794;1388327557;VanCleef;lol 432795;1388327585;VanCleef;i dont get why this room still exists 432796;1388327602;VanCleef;nothing to invest in 432797;1388327620;KRS|Gotyawallet;sure there is..everyone's got IPO's in the works..so does my neighbor's dog 432798;1388327656;KRS|Gotyawallet;IPO's gone wild 432799;1388327661;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17203 @ 0.00084627 = 14.5584 BTC [-] {2} 432800;1388327673;VanCleef;i'll take 1 million shares plz 432801;1388327860;KRS|Gotyawallet;Order confirmed. He has doge coin available through his brokerage too. 432802;1388327874;KRS|Gotyawallet;such profit 432803;1388329369;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22976 @ 0.0008502 = 19.5342 BTC [+] {2} 432804;1388329979;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4820 @ 0.00084491 = 4.0725 BTC [-] {2} 432805;1388330040;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10580 @ 0.00084408 = 8.9304 BTC [-] 432806;1388330284;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7750 @ 0.00085272 = 6.6086 BTC [+] {2} 432807;1388330955;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16800 @ 0.00084392 = 14.1779 BTC [-] {3} 432808;1388332053;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4950 @ 0.00085284 = 4.2216 BTC [+] 432809;1388332480;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.00085284 = 11.6839 BTC [+] 432810;1388332663;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00085284 = 5.5435 BTC [+] 432811;1388332907;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8150 @ 0.00085144 = 6.9392 BTC [-] 432812;1388332968;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 75 @ 0.0215929 = 1.6195 BTC [-] {21} 432813;1388333029;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 12 @ 0.02001674 = 0.2402 BTC [-] {3} 432814;1388333090;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 53 @ 0.01978542 = 1.0486 BTC [-] {10} 432815;1388333151;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 98 @ 0.01770002 = 1.7346 BTC [-] {3} 432816;1388333273;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.07452499 = 0.2981 BTC [+] {4} 432817;1388334127;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 24 @ 0.02059999 = 0.4944 BTC [+] {2} 432818;1388335164;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14480 @ 0.00084467 = 12.2308 BTC [-] 432819;1388336018;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 500 @ 0.00281276 = 1.4064 BTC [-] {5} 432820;1388336872;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11250 @ 0.00084569 = 9.514 BTC [+] {2} 432821;1388337238;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.0008438 = 7.0035 BTC [-] 432822;1388338092;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 331 @ 0.00281624 = 0.9322 BTC [+] {5} 432823;1388338153;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 40 @ 0.00285 = 0.114 BTC [-] {2} 432824;1388338214;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 24 @ 0.02089999 = 0.5016 BTC [+] {2} 432825;1388338397;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 164 @ 0.00285 = 0.4674 BTC [-] 432826;1388338458;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC 432827;1388339373;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.29 BTC [-] 432828;1388339434;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 350 @ 0.00285 = 0.9975 BTC [-] 432829;1388339861;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00084854 = 5.9398 BTC [+] 432830;1388339983;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] [PAID] 0.66306875 BTC to 9`575 shares, 6925 satoshi per share 432831;1388340471;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17089 @ 0.00084854 = 14.5007 BTC [+] 432832;1388341874;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.28706324 = 2.2965 BTC [-] {6} 432833;1388341875;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 9 @ 0.02150001 = 0.1935 BTC [+] 432834;1388341935;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.28500012 BTC [-] 432835;1388342118;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3605 @ 0.00084727 = 3.0544 BTC [-] 432836;1388342484;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 22 @ 0.02301001 = 0.5062 BTC [+] {2} 432837;1388343399;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15600 @ 0.0008493 = 13.2491 BTC [+] {3} 432838;1388343582;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9750 @ 0.0008497 = 8.2846 BTC [+] {2} 432839;1388343826;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 24 @ 0.02219999 = 0.5328 BTC [-] {2} 432840;1388344009;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.075 = 0.225 BTC [+] {2} 432841;1388344131;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10775 @ 0.00085044 = 9.1635 BTC [+] {2} 432842;1388345168;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2125 @ 0.0008514 = 1.8092 BTC [+] 432843;1388345412;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5994 @ 0.00084997 = 5.0947 BTC [-] 432844;1388345717;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 350 @ 0.00285 = 0.9975 BTC [-] 432845;1388346614;benkay;asciilifeform: why do you need to reverse the xilinx toolchain? 432846;1388346632;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1090 @ 0.00285 = 3.1065 BTC [-] 432847;1388346684;asciilifeform;benkay: can't make a self-reconfiguring Xilinx without knowing the exact bitstream format and internal layout. 432848;1388346693;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21200 @ 0.00085203 = 18.063 BTC [+] {2} 432849;1388346728;asciilifeform;likewise, and even more elementary: can't make a self-reconfiguring xilinx (or other fpga based) system without x86/unix in the loop unless you can ditch the vendor's toolchain 432850;1388346754;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.0711 = 0.711 BTC [-] {3} 432851;1388346793;asciilifeform;interestingly, xilinx and other vendors used to publish their internals, but that stopped in the mid-90s when they moved to a 'rent our code' business model 432852;1388347059;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22150 @ 0.000853 = 18.894 BTC [+] {3} 432853;1388347364;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25450 @ 0.00085182 = 21.6788 BTC [-] {2} 432854;1388347425;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 46 @ 0.00286 = 0.1316 BTC [+] 432855;1388347669;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3702 @ 0.00085176 = 3.1532 BTC [-] 432856;1388347791;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 474 @ 0.002888 = 1.3689 BTC [+] 432857;1388347852;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00084935 = 1.5288 BTC [-] 432858;1388348025;benkay;sounds like the xilinx tools are designed to implement a certain set of routines in silicon but the silicon itself can't change the implemented routines until you bake the configuration of the fpga into the fpga itself. am i close? 432859;1388348035;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00085045 = 7.484 BTC [+] {2} 432860;1388348168;benkay;asciilifeform ^^ 432861;1388348198;mircea_popescu;soo, who's drunk and who;s sober ? 432862;1388348217;Duffer1;<--sober 432863;1388348218;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23500 @ 0.00084726 = 19.9106 BTC [-] {2} 432864;1388348227;kakobrekla;yes 432865;1388348230;mircea_popescu;2-0 432866;1388348259;mircea_popescu;though i suppose the other 140 ppl are too drunk to type... 432867;1388348294;kakobrekla;mebbe they havent gptten rid of real life yet 432868;1388348294;Duffer1;how are your pet gnats? 432869;1388348336;mircea_popescu;lol 432870;1388348351;mircea_popescu;i got them all collars and stuff 432871;1388348359;mircea_popescu;little gnat housies. 432872;1388348429;Duffer1;don't give them internet, it's the devils tool, corrupt their impressionable minds 432873;1388348472;benkay;or any touchscreen 432874;1388348482;benkay;;;ticker 432875;1388348483;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 766.00001, Best ask: 770.11, Bid-ask spread: 4.10999, Last trade: 764.97999, 24 hour volume: 4554.52435218, 24 hour low: 735.0, 24 hour high: 779.0, 24 hour vwap: 758.20762 432876;1388348506;mircea_popescu;jesus i get all these season's greetings emails from romanians that are written in english and full of errors. 432877;1388348512;mircea_popescu;why da fuck do these people do this. 432878;1388348622;Tyklol;mircea_popescu: because it works 432879;1388348669;Tykling;oh, wait, I may have misread - I thought you meant phishing type mails 432880;1388348695;mircea_popescu;nah 432881;1388349019;Duffer1;Salutări frate român. Vacanță vesel brânză. Sper că și subțire dumneavoastră sunt bine. 432882;1388349060;Duffer1;from english to romanian with errors :) 432883;1388349260;twizt;haha 432884;1388349377;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.00085094 = 10.1262 BTC [+] 432885;1388349621;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4450 @ 0.00085094 = 3.7867 BTC [+] 432886;1388350170;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11600 @ 0.00085365 = 9.9023 BTC [+] {2} 432887;1388350597;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00085218 = 6.1357 BTC [-] {2} 432888;1388350841;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12485 @ 0.00085378 = 10.6594 BTC [+] 432889;1388351405;mircea_popescu;lol 432890;1388351573;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9746 @ 0.00085088 = 8.2927 BTC [-] 432891;1388352122;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26853 @ 0.00085402 = 22.933 BTC [+] {3} 432892;1388352549;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4651 @ 0.00085471 = 3.9753 BTC [+] 432893;1388353159;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00085447 = 6.494 BTC [-] 432894;1388353403;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 15 @ 0.037 = 0.555 BTC [-] 432895;1388353708;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20000 @ 0.00085447 = 17.0894 BTC [-] 432896;1388353891;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10550 @ 0.00085479 = 9.018 BTC [+] {2} 432897;1388354928;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12850 @ 0.00085659 = 11.0072 BTC [+] {3} 432898;1388355355;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24850 @ 0.00085855 = 21.335 BTC [+] {2} 432899;1388355660;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00085899 = 7.2155 BTC [+] 432900;1388357856;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20200 @ 0.00085597 = 17.2906 BTC [-] {2} 432901;1388357917;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00085384 = 3.2446 BTC [-] 432902;1388358283;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11050 @ 0.00085384 = 9.4349 BTC [-] 432903;1388359747;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3050 @ 0.00085889 = 2.6196 BTC [+] 432904;1388359930;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5000 @ 0.0000823 = 0.4115 BTC [-] {17} 432905;1388360074;jborkl;Well Hashfast is coming unraveled quickly 432906;1388360104;benkay;o ya? 432907;1388360104;benkay;do tell. 432908;1388360162;benkay;i like their approach to the DOM 432909;1388360172;Duffer1;225Th batch one starts shipping by dec 31 432910;1388360182;benkay;"who cares about where the actual fuck the viewport is pointed?!" 432911;1388360189;benkay;"just reorganize all the content all the time!" 432912;1388360190;jborkl;Well, they have not shipped and now reached the drop dead refund date. The thread is interesting to keep up with but it appears the same as the Tom 432913;1388360205;kakobrekla;lolwat 432914;1388360231;benkay;no hashfast bitbets? 432915;1388360281;jborkl;I do not believe they will ship , but that is me. I have seen this story too many times now 432916;1388360295;jborkl;In the next 30 days or more 432917;1388360393;Duffer1;they announced a few days ago they'll start shipping first batch by dec 31, it would take bfl levels of gall to say that and not actually be ready 432918;1388360490;benkay;or just standard bitcorp incompetence. 432919;1388360508;jborkl;Well Avalon, BFL, basic all said the same basic stuff. 432920;1388360524;jborkl;Actually basic and Avalon did much worse 432921;1388360550;jborkl;The ecosystem was just smaller to feed on then 432922;1388361276;twizt;lol 432923;1388361280;twizt;all those pics look like renders 432924;1388361284;twizt;of the 'chip' 432925;1388361307;twizt;like the bullshit product mockups u can buy from fiverr 432926;1388361516;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11748 @ 0.00085642 = 10.0612 BTC [-] {2} 432927;1388361645;Duffer1;ya they're all mockups so far, it'll be interesting to see if they can do what they say 432928;1388361720;Duffer1;http://hashfast.com/hashfast-customer-update/ actualy pics 432929;1388361911;pankkake;the twitter account has more 432930;1388361954;BingoBoingo;These last minute "pre-shipping" announcements seem more like fishing for a last few suckers than anything helpful to people who would have already "Pre-ordered" 432931;1388362029;Duffer1;ya could be 432932;1388362278;BingoBoingo;Pretty sure Labcoin did this. BFL managed to do this several times. Avalon did this when they mined on customer rigs before shipping them. 432933;1388362359;KRS|Gotyawallet;wouldn't you? 432934;1388362378;KRS|Gotyawallet;someone would have to convince me pretty hard not to 432935;1388362390;KRS|Gotyawallet;but i wouldn't take it too far and be greedy 432936;1388362492;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 25 @ 0.09199097 = 2.2998 BTC [+] {4} 432937;1388362500;kakobrekla;"too far" varies too much. 432938;1388362522;Duffer1;labcoin pulled a lot of shit, but they didn't even try to develop something 432939;1388362566;KRS|Gotyawallet;labcoin was a straight up scam 432940;1388362582;Duffer1;yep 432941;1388363155;BingoBoingo;I guess soon it will become obvious if Hashfast was a straight up scam as well. 432942;1388363225;KRS|Gotyawallet;at least cex.io isn't a scam, its just a straight up rip-off. Never made sense of their pricing in terms of roi..I must hav been doing something wrong because they still have customers. 432943;1388363294;pankkake;it's all in the referal system 432944;1388363295;BingoBoingo;Gotchawallet: Well, some people really just want to get mugged 432945;1388363308;Gotchawallet;i'm under that impression yeah. 432946;1388363321;pankkake;there was that funny comic about it 432947;1388363468;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.09199099 = 0.184 BTC [+] {2} 432948;1388364994;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2202 @ 0.00085384 = 1.8802 BTC [-] 432949;1388365481;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 80 @ 0.001499 = 0.1199 BTC [+] 432950;1388365603;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 500 @ 0.0015 = 0.75 BTC [+] 432951;1388365908;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 358 @ 0.00179 = 0.6408 BTC [+] 432952;1388366518;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 111 @ 0.001899 = 0.2108 BTC [+] 432953;1388367006;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18548 @ 0.00085206 = 15.804 BTC [-] 432954;1388369751;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.28500012 BTC [-] 432955;1388369934;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.28500001 = 0.57 BTC [-] 432956;1388371459;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 10 @ 0.03839999 = 0.384 BTC [+] {3} 432957;1388372130;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 28 @ 0.09199099 = 2.5757 BTC [+] {2} 432958;1388373289;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 2000 @ 0.001 = 2 BTC 432959;1388373594;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35396 @ 0.00085711 = 30.3383 BTC [+] {2} 432960;1388374326;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15850 @ 0.00085944 = 13.6221 BTC [+] {2} 432961;1388374742;mircea_popescu;http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/12/29/report-nsa-intercepts-computer-deliveries/ 432962;1388374743;ozbot;Report: NSA Intercepts Computer Deliveries | TheBlaze.com 432963;1388374748;mircea_popescu;this just keeps getting better an' better. 432964;1388374783;Duffer1;have you read the der spiegel piece? 432965;1388374812;mircea_popescu;yeah. it has little to do with the english summary, but hey 432966;1388374826;Duffer1;ah 432967;1388375186;Duffer1;i wonder if there's a way to edit windows crash reports, send ms and nsa troll reports instead 432968;1388375256;Duffer1;dilythium crystals overloaded 432969;1388375366;BingoBoingo;Duffer1: I imagine repurposing a botnet to spam fake, trollish Windows crash reports might be something some sort of activist could be motivated to do if they had a strong desire of being found. 432970;1388375426;BingoBoingo;One of those "You don't have to outrun the bear..." cases, except running into the bear's open arms 432971;1388375491;Duffer1;ya probably not the smartest thing to do 432972;1388375555;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo what exactly are they going to do ? arrest the guy for being an asshole ? 432973;1388375628;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Maybe? Possibly troll him back. Such an effort might be a heroic waste of NSA and MS time. 432974;1388375791;BingoBoingo;Or some agent could say fuck it and activate the mechanisms leading towards extraordinary rendition to a blacksite and use of Datskovskiys soldering iron. Hard to tell what the rogue state will do. 432975;1388375862;BingoBoingo;Under other circumstances it might lead to the NSA extending some sort of job offer. 432976;1388375934;BingoBoingo;Capriciousness of action is part of make a rouge state rogue 432977;1388375937;mircea_popescu;it all sounds like good fun to the average botnet master i'm sure. 432978;1388376031;BingoBoingo;Maybe this guy will do it http://it.slashdot.org/story/13/12/28/233200/convicted-spammer-jeffrey-kilbride-flees-prison 432979;1388376070;mircea_popescu;hahaha 432980;1388376299;BingoBoingo;The mindset that leads people to think spamming could be a profitable venture would probably be the sort that could lead someone to think spamming the NSA into thinking "user won Darwin Award" is the most common means by which a Windows system fails 432981;1388376423;BingoBoingo;Because the point of collecting the reports is for the juicy dump of data about how a machine is configured. The right way would probably be spamming legit looking reports suggesting people are running WIndows 8.1 on PDP-11s, Vaxen, and other ancient systems 432982;1388376428;mircea_popescu;i know someone who redirected his domains to the whitehouse when someone else was trying to ddos him 432983;1388376448;BingoBoingo;Lol, Highlights of 2013. 432984;1388376453;mircea_popescu;>D 432985;1388376610;BingoBoingo;I wonder what ways Bitcoin will be probed in 2014. Bigger DDoS attacks? BitBet being defaced? The IRS accepting pankkake's altcoin? 432986;1388376644;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.04999973 = 0.25 BTC [+] {2} 432987;1388376718;Duffer1;pankakke's alt? 432988;1388376720;mircea_popescu;i think we're way past probing 432989;1388377975;mircea_popescu;meanwhile at the "let's mock retards department", http://trilema.com/2013/queers/ 432990;1388378230;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 102294 @ 0.00085982 = 87.9544 BTC [+] {3} 432991;1388378291;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49200 @ 0.00086361 = 42.4896 BTC [+] 432992;1388378634;Bugpowder;Anyone have a link to a good discussion of master coin benefits and valuation potential? 432993;1388378753;BingoBoingo;Bugpowder: Was there ever a good discussion of mastercoin that ended up supposing benefits, valuation potention, or some combination of both in the end? 432994;1388378792;Bugpowder;I don't know. I'm totally out of the loop on it. What do you think? 432995;1388378897;BingoBoingo;Bugpowder: Basically mastercoin is this colored coins idea but the developer found a way to try colored coins that involved "Send me your coins and I will make this thing" 432996;1388378922;Bugpowder;Then it might actually get made! 432997;1388379022;mircea_popescu;i dunno that such a write-up exists 432998;1388379034;mircea_popescu;doubt it could be made, either. 432999;1388379399;ThickAsThieves;plus, who wants to use something called mastercoin 433000;1388379489;Duffer1;r/mastercoin i can sub to be a mastermind 433001;1388379578;Duffer1;o.0 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=292628.0 433002;1388379601;Duffer1;"we recently raised nearly 5000 BTC to build a new protocol layer on top of bitcoin." 433003;1388379627;Bugpowder;sigh. OK I will do my reading…. tx 433004;1388379646;ThickAsThieves;the best things are always made by contests 433005;1388379698;Bugpowder;In general I support a development model where people buy-in to the coin via funding its development 433006;1388379807;mircea_popescu;Bugpowder do the reading, publish the results, get peer reviewed. 433007;1388379810;mircea_popescu;i support teh model! 433008;1388379827;Bugpowder;If only I didn't have science to worry about 433009;1388379829;Bugpowder;sigh 433010;1388379832;Bugpowder;ok 433011;1388379836;Bugpowder;on my list of shit to do 433012;1388380059;Bugpowder;wow. 100 master coins were minted per BTC during the kickstarter 433013;1388380071;Bugpowder;traiding at .23BTC / MSC now 433014;1388380077;Bugpowder;shit1 433015;1388380105;Bugpowder;https://github.com/mastercoin-MSC/spec 433016;1388380202;Duffer1;trading where? 433017;1388380245;mircea_popescu;good reason to ignore it, basically. 433018;1388380302;mircea_popescu;"holy shit, scam X started at y two months ago now it's at y times over nine thousand!!1" pretty much calls for "call me in two years" 433019;1388380386;kakobrekla;y u no like doge no moar 433020;1388380398;Bugpowder;waiting for doge to hi 18 433021;1388380401;Bugpowder;hit 18 433022;1388380412;Bugpowder;that is the magic doge number 433023;1388380418;Duffer1;MP is balls deep in doge, only talks shit to get cheaper doge 433024;1388380438;kakobrekla;at 18 it turns to adult doge? 433025;1388380439;Duffer1;at least, dats what some1on 4chan sais 433026;1388380442;Gotchawallet;such investment 433027;1388380519;BingoBoingo;I though doge's usually died around 15 433028;1388380541;Bugpowder;I am talking about MSC not MST by the way 433029;1388380571;Bugpowder;18 is where the total future market cap = BBQcoin's total future market cap at current valuation. 433030;1388380586;Bugpowder;since BBQcoin is a worthless coin, yet still has value… 433031;1388380601;Bugpowder;OK I know that is a stupid analysis 433032;1388380615;Gotchawallet;arent most of the mastercoin owned by the founders and friends 433033;1388380633;Gotchawallet;and reeks of centralization 433034;1388380633;Bugpowder;anyone that participated in the kickstarter… yep 433035;1388380655;Gotchawallet;thought so..hmm 433036;1388380676;Bugpowder;doesn't necessarily mean it's not going to become useful 433037;1388380703;Bugpowder;different jobs could have different types of coins serve them best 433038;1388380716;Gotchawallet;yea initially it seemed great to me but that turned me off 433039;1388380739;Duffer1;i didn't read past the part where the ceo introduced himself 433040;1388381596;mircea_popescu;Duffer1 i r not balls deep in no doge 433041;1388381622;Duffer1;oh lol ya that came out wrong 433042;1388381645;Duffer1;multi layered troll 433043;1388381650;mircea_popescu;Bugpowder so which one is msc ? 433044;1388381666;Bugpowder;The coloredcions one 433045;1388381676;Bugpowder;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1rpx26/mastercoin_is_a_joke/ 433046;1388381676;ozbot;Mastercoin is a joke : Bitcoin 433047;1388381809;Duffer1;but like it totally works if like market participants act rationally and in good faith 433048;1388381968;mircea_popescu;i c 433049;1388382683;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 41 @ 0.04999989 = 2.05 BTC [+] {3} 433050;1388382825;jcpham;good faith eh 433051;1388383415;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.29873392 = 2.9873 BTC [+] {5} 433052;1388383598;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.3 = 1.5 BTC [+] 433053;1388384585;benkay;oh it gets worse 433054;1388384611;benkay;one changes bids in this derpstributed marketplace by simply transmitting another transaction that supersedes the previous bid/ask 433055;1388384640;benkay;and whichever makes it into the blockchain is nominally the official bid 433056;1388384653;benkay;thing is a goddamn shitshow 433057;1388384662;benkay;will gladly fisk to the tune of 1700 words for 1 btc. 433058;1388384788;Bugpowder;jejej 433059;1388384882;benkay;how to revoke orders once in blockchain is left as an exercise to the alert reader 433060;1388384899;benkay;read: it's non trivially parsed from this moronic 'spec'. 433061;1388384944;mircea_popescu;benkay you should start a blog, charge for credits. 433062;1388384970;mircea_popescu;basically, you folks are doing all the legwork into figuring this stuff out anyway 433063;1388384983;benkay;it's almost as though willet et al have heard about a thing called a spec and how some people involved with bitcoin think the cryptocurrency might be better off with a spec than new features, chose to 'implement' a 'spec' that's wholly inadequate to the task at hand 433064;1388384985;mircea_popescu;publishing the results is really getting mileage out of already sunk in work. otherwise it just rots away 433065;1388385006;benkay;ya well working with jurov to recoup time investment in parsing mpex complexities 433066;1388385024;benkay;would be more than happy to parse mastercoin retardities for you for pay 433067;1388385030;benkay;have no interest in maintaining blog thing 433068;1388385060;mircea_popescu;you know it's easier to do in retrospect than it looks. 433069;1388385070;benkay;the little i know about myself and men in general is that we don't tend to have a lot to say on topics of interest to large populations until we hit like thirty five and have a reasonable base of experience from which to generalize 433070;1388385078;mircea_popescu;you just write a report to yourself, click publish, go on your merry way 433071;1388385089;mircea_popescu;blogs are not for large populations. 433072;1388385110;benkay;blogging also turns one into a public persona 433073;1388385117;mircea_popescu;so does being on irc 433074;1388385134;benkay;point 433075;1388385139;benkay;anyways 433076;1388385140;mircea_popescu;i get it, public speaking is the #1 fear n the english world. nevertheless, step outside of your culture 433077;1388385143;mircea_popescu;if we can call it that. 433078;1388385148;benkay;rookie reporter does not start newspaper 433079;1388385154;mircea_popescu;this is not reporting. 433080;1388385166;mircea_popescu;you are not writing to an audience. you are writing to yourself. 433081;1388385172;mircea_popescu;"here is the deal with this X thing afaik" 433082;1388385183;mircea_popescu;you get very cheap extra research IF anyone ever reads your stuff 433083;1388385203;mircea_popescu;but that's not why you write. why you write is so that YOU can re-read it if you ever forget wtf X was 433084;1388385251;benkay;right because there's no textbook for cryptocurrency idiocy 433085;1388385276;mircea_popescu;what's this, centralisation nao ? 433086;1388385302;benkay;i can always pull out the dynamics and controls tomes and implement whatever thing i forgot the intricacies of implementing, but i won't always have access to my memories of why mastercoin is completely stupified. 433087;1388385318;mircea_popescu;you won't. 433088;1388385330;mircea_popescu;take it from experience, people ask me about 1year+ oldscams i have to review writs 433089;1388385352;mircea_popescu;scams are eminently forgettable in all those specific details that make discussion possible or worthwhile 433090;1388385368;mircea_popescu;and stupidity generally goes the same way 433091;1388385408;benkay;but think you could spend just one bitcoin and get a full report on the derpage, plus some negotiated amount of additional "hey kid you're stupid and didn't look into this enough plz foar to fix" 433092;1388385430;mircea_popescu;ya but i do not wish to befoul the marketplace of ideas by abusing my financial power. 433093;1388385440;benkay;:( 433094;1388385463;Duffer1;pay x to shit all over something that just miiggghhhtt help the overall bitcoin ecosystem? 433095;1388385480;benkay;you'd befoul the idea marketplace, and defoul the bitcoinscamosystem 433096;1388385488;mircea_popescu;Duffer1 the helping part is a vanishingly long shot at this point. 433097;1388385491;Duffer1;mp = rupert murdoch 433098;1388385506;mircea_popescu;a spiked club colonoscopy could conceivably also help some old geezer 433099;1388385509;Duffer1;oh i agree 433100;1388385509;mircea_popescu;if it hits him just right 433101;1388385537;Duffer1;the same way gay sex can cure constipation? 433102;1388385551;mircea_popescu;i thought taking it in the pooper made you stop shitting for the dya 433103;1388385626;Duffer1;benkay coindesk might be interested 433104;1388385639;Duffer1;dunno if they pay though or if they're the huffpost of cryptoland 433105;1388385736;benkay;i do so dearly want to associate my name with publications whose trade is which american bitcoin company may or may not be raising another pile of idiot cash this week 433106;1388385844;Duffer1;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_-w500AmUE 433107;1388385845;ozbot;Community - "Make your money whore." - YouTube 433108;1388385908;Bugpowder;this is how startups end up working tho. Raise a bunch of money before you have a real product, and try to assemble one before you can't raise an ever increasing sum of money 433109;1388385914;Duffer1;^sfw btw 433110;1388385961;mircea_popescu;Bugpowder hence the crunch. 433111;1388385974;Bugpowder;Stanford model vs. MIT model. Usually Stanford model does better 433112;1388385995;Bugpowder;occasionally MIT model makes a tech so awesome that it does change the market 433113;1388386006;Bugpowder;but usually they fail 433114;1388386030;mircea_popescu;only if the stanford model is applied to a well controlled environment made out of wasp kids thoroughly acculturated. 433115;1388386042;mircea_popescu;if the stanford model is exposed to the world the net result is today's us. 433116;1388386103;mircea_popescu;and as to mit, the "premier engineering school in teh werld", all i have to say is www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIhk9eKOLzQ‎ 433117;1388386106;Duffer1;i'm gonna name my next cat "fuffles" 433118;1388386145;Bugpowder;by wasp you mean neo-wasp meritistocrats, not WSJ Joe Epstein US was great when WASPs were kings? 433119;1388386252;mircea_popescu;no, i mean people repressed to the point they actually need marketeers to give them topics for conversation. 433120;1388386262;mircea_popescu;as they can't, on their own, say hi to a stranger. 433121;1388386300;mircea_popescu;jerome k jerome's brit turned to 11 basically. 433122;1388386370;reeses;I always wondered about MIT grads with degrees in the humanities 433123;1388386414;mircea_popescu;whoa he can talk 433124;1388386522;chetty;these days not talking to strangers is wisdom, not repression 433125;1388386614;Bugpowder;Sad thing, the Course 21W major... 433126;1388386662;mircea_popescu;chetty kids gotta get into trouble tho 433127;1388386678;reeses;Yep 433128;1388386679;reeses;http://web.mit.edu/catalog/degre.human.dlist.html 433129;1388386679;ozbot;MIT Course Catalog: Degrees Offered in the School of Humanities, Arts, and Social Sciences 433130;1388386760;mircea_popescu;"Comparative Media Studies" ? 433131;1388386769;mircea_popescu;is this basically redditderp ? 433132;1388386788;reeses;we have funny "you *have* to have a college degree!" programs here in the US 433133;1388386805;reeses;when I was in school I dated a girl whose major was "comparative history of ideas" 433134;1388386815;reeses;I think it was philosophy-lite 433135;1388386839;mircea_popescu;that's actually a very respectable postgrad field 433136;1388386866;reeses;yeah, but this was a school of arts & sciences undergrad 433137;1388386881;mircea_popescu;nordstrom et al 433138;1388386886;reeses;which meant she had to take maybe four courses to satisfy the department requirement 433139;1388386896;mircea_popescu;i realise, they probably raped it to shit 433140;1388386917;reeses;https://chid.washington.edu 433141;1388386928;reeses;CHID is an undergraduate major and minor that has been around since 1978. The participating members (students, staff and faculty) of CHID collectively construct a dynamic, creative learning community that mobilizes collective and individual passions. We encourage our members to pursue self-knowledge through participation in the changing world in which their selves are shaped and which they will shape for their own and future generations. 433142;1388386929;reeses;hahahah 433143;1388386947;mircea_popescu;this oddly involves no fucking. 433144;1388386953;reeses;montessori university 433145;1388386964;mircea_popescu;ok, new definition for wasp : person that reads the above and does not immediately think "so they fuck on campus ?" 433146;1388387013;reeses;heh 433147;1388387021;reeses;do wasps still exist? 433148;1388387035;mircea_popescu;definitely. 433149;1388387848;Namworld;What's a wasp? My first thought was "You ain't getting a job with that." 433150;1388388108;reeses;white anglo-saxon protestant 433151;1388388119;reeses;vestigial ruling class in the US and UK 433152;1388388132;reeses;preppies are their larval stage 433153;1388388189;mircea_popescu;a wasp is a kid that grows up principally interracting with his parents, who are overly-intellectual, is never beaten, is carefully kept overclean and never gets to either injure himself or face any real responsibility 433154;1388388213;mircea_popescu;where real responsibility is that situation where either choice stinks, you gotta pick one and then stick with it, without redemption. 433155;1388388270;mircea_popescu;if you've ever seen the graduate you get the idea. 433156;1388388298;reeses;dead poet's society as well 433157;1388388311;mircea_popescu;ya, weir 433158;1388388357;mircea_popescu;for that matter, anything with that jew bimbo in it, what's his name 433159;1388388363;Namworld;I have not. Although it seems by the new definition you gave it, I'm a wasp. 433160;1388388449;mircea_popescu;Ben Stiller 433161;1388388478;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0499999 = 0.25 BTC [+] 433162;1388388516;Bugpowder;that is really not a wasp 433163;1388388567;Bugpowder;http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304367204579268301043949952 433164;1388388568;ozbot;The Late, Great American WASP - WSJ.com 433165;1388388601;Bugpowder;but if you want to reappropriate the term, using the W-word as a term of endearment, go ahead. 433166;1388388607;mircea_popescu;" unless one includes the entity that has come to be known as the meritocracypresumably an aristocracy of sheer intelligence, men and women trained in the nation's most prestigious schools. 433167;1388388615;mircea_popescu;lmao, bureaucracy never gets sick of sucking itself off huh 433168;1388388632;Bugpowder;WASPs play paddle tennis 433169;1388388641;mircea_popescu;the notion that there'd be a meritocracy in the us is beyond a simple lol 433170;1388388652;Bugpowder;which I had never fucking heard of till going to my kid's Mommy and Me preschool 433171;1388388652;Duffer1;yer just jealous of our freedom 433172;1388388775;mircea_popescu;kinda impossible to have old money in a crooked place, so yeah. 433173;1388388805;benkay;the wasps are all lifetime government slaves 433174;1388388826;benkay;i pirated one of their young femmes off in my gypsy joo caravan 433175;1388388843;benkay;have to self-restrain from mocking the family around said femme 433176;1388388869;mircea_popescu;lol 433177;1388388897;reeses;ping pong is racist 433178;1388388899;benkay;the best part is how all the women are involved in welfare programs, and all the men in nominal spycraft 433179;1388388934;Bugpowder;The whitest sport in the world 433180;1388388935;Bugpowder;http://www.venicepaparazzi.com/events/april-6-7-spring-singles-paddle-tennis-tournament-2/ 433181;1388388936;ozbot;U.S. Open Doubles Paddle Tennis Tournament is this Sat. Sept. 21 : Venice Paparazzi | Venice Beach 433182;1388388944;mircea_popescu;the spycraft is indeed funny 433183;1388388947;reeses;holy gay 433184;1388388950;mircea_popescu;as wasps make notoriously bad spies 433185;1388388953;reeses;that is pathetic 433186;1388388960;mircea_popescu;to the degree that there's this old russian joke, goes like this : 433187;1388388969;reeses;I thought it was 'table tennis' 433188;1388388983;reeses;not toy raquet tennis 433189;1388388995;mircea_popescu;usa sends spy to cccp, within a coupla months they realise he'd been ferreted out and fed misinformation since just about day one 433190;1388388999;reeses;racquet 433191;1388389010;reeses;no, wasps make great spies 433192;1388389013;reeses;in the US 433193;1388389015;reeses;:-) 433194;1388389024;mircea_popescu;so they send another spy, and... well... same deal. and then more and more. eventually they ask a defector, and the guy smikrs and says "perhaps you might try not sending black people ?" 433195;1388389069;reeses;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Hanssen 433196;1388389069;ozbot;Robert Hanssen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 433197;1388389073;reeses;ok, he's catholic 433198;1388389100;reeses;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Bentley ← THAT is a WASP 433199;1388389100;ozbot;Elizabeth Bentley - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 433200;1388389103;reeses;Vassar 433201;1388389110;Bugpowder;more than US$1.4 million in cash and diamonds over a 22-year period. 433202;1388389113;Bugpowder;sad really 433203;1388389116;reeses;yeah 433204;1388389118;mircea_popescu;that "worst intelligence disaster" has meanwhile been surpassed. 433205;1388389122;Bugpowder;should have just bought a few BTC 433206;1388389124;reeses;it's *cheap* to turn people 433207;1388389133;mircea_popescu;Bugpowder no btc in the 80s 433208;1388389156;Bugpowder;well whatever people were getting rich off then 433209;1388389172;Bugpowder;Criminal penaltyLife imprisonment (without parole) 433210;1388389193;Bugpowder;Might have well been dealing kilos of yayo 433211;1388389210;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56243 @ 0.00088361 = 49.6969 BTC [+] {2} 433212;1388389223;reeses;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_Edwin_Pitts ← $224,000 from 1987 to 1992 433213;1388389224;ozbot;Earl Edwin Pitts - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 433214;1388389232;reeses;it's just sad 433215;1388389254;mircea_popescu;dude, a house in ohio still goes for 20k 433216;1388389263;mircea_popescu;how much do you figure some guy's ass is worth ? 433217;1388389288;reeses;hahah, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_spies the last section before the references is good 433218;1388389290;Duffer1;people live in ohio 433219;1388389294;Bugpowder;My mortgage is bigger than all these dudes payouts… I've been turned by WFC. 433220;1388389298;Duffer1;mind blown 433221;1388389393;reeses;$463000 (2013 US dollars) 433222;1388389393;reeses;(based on Consumer Price Index) 433223;1388389423;reeses;that will buy a nice 70m^2 apartment here 433224;1388389427;reeses;maybe 433225;1388389434;reeses;with a commute and no view 433226;1388389472;reeses;http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/700-Illinois-St-3-San-Francisco-CA-94107/80734485_zpid/ 433227;1388389473;ozbot;700 Illinois St # 3, San Francisco, CA 94107 is For Sale - Zillow 433228;1388389473;reeses;hah 433229;1388389513;mircea_popescu;fascinating to read a 10 year old wsj piece, and discover how it merely sucks as compared to a coupla decades before 433230;1388389543;mircea_popescu;as opposed to todaqy's indescribable retards of "we've taken a two week master's" 433231;1388390247;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00088638 = 8.0661 BTC [+] 433232;1388392260;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 6 @ 0.03666666 = 0.22 BTC [-] {2} 433233;1388392870;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35600 @ 0.00088474 = 31.4967 BTC [-] {2} 433234;1388396896;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.29996988 = 1.1999 BTC [-] 433235;1388397150;mircea_popescu;http://notrickszone.com/2013/12/29/global-warming-expedition-remains-trapped-no-guranatee-australian-ice-breaker-will-get-through-3-meter-thick-ice/ 433236;1388397152;ozbot;Global Warming Expedition Remains Trapped…”No Guarantee” Australian Icebreaker Will Get Throug 433237;1388397994;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.29989995 = 0.5998 BTC [-] {2} 433238;1388398125;kakobrekla;http://shrani.si/f/22/8s/3w9MRQy2/unnamed.jpg 433239;1388398218;kakobrekla;19 mio sent from stamp to bermudas 433240;1388401166;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25612 @ 0.00088708 = 22.7199 BTC [+] 433241;1388402813;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12188 @ 0.00088708 = 10.8117 BTC [+] 433242;1388405619;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25100 @ 0.000892 = 22.3892 BTC [+] 433243;1388406229;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24071 @ 0.00089309 = 21.4976 BTC [+] {3} 433244;1388406900;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.000892 = 5.1736 BTC [-] 433245;1388407381;ArsKisS;on what terms does the bot publish those? 433246;1388407399;ArsKisS;I'm new here so.. 433247;1388407723;mircea_popescu;what do you mean terms 433248;1388409401;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00089369 = 5.1834 BTC [+] 433249;1388409950;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 11 @ 0.02194999 = 0.2414 BTC [-] 433250;1388410926;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13012 @ 0.000892 = 11.6067 BTC [-] 433251;1388411780;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 41999 @ 0.00288 = 120.9571 BTC [-] 433252;1388412207;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15440 @ 0.00088444 = 13.6558 BTC [-] 433253;1388412570;ThickAsThieves;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1tz6lf/i_only_very_rarely_read_people_here_talk_about/ 433254;1388412571;ozbot;I only very rarely read people here talk about Predictious or other prediction markets. Is it becaus 433255;1388412586;ThickAsThieves;"Because they're centralized. Decentralized prediction markets are going to be available in a couple months. Why risk it on some site that can get hacked, seized or turn out to be a scam." 433256;1388412597;ThickAsThieves;bitbet was fun while it lasted, sorry guys 433257;1388412633;ThickAsThieves;"The idea of a decentralized market is that it allows anyone anonymous but with accrued and verifiable reputation to be the arbiter and/or market maker of any particular market, while he stays safe from sabotage." 433258;1388412638;ThickAsThieves;oh ya? 433259;1388412729;chetty;sounds very messy 433260;1388413096;ArsKisS;mircea_popescu, how does the bot sort out when to publish? some certain volume or what kind of criteria? 433261;1388413180;ThickAsThieves;it's time-based i think arskiss 433262;1388413192;ThickAsThieves;of course the algo changing the price is a diff question 433263;1388413211;ArsKisS;umm 433264;1388413235;ArsKisS;you mean it publishes last trade of every stock for like hourly? 433265;1388413309;ThickAsThieves;oh you mean the announcements in this channel? 433266;1388413315;ThickAsThieves;they happen live 433267;1388413327;ThickAsThieves;they are grouped by the minute i think 433268;1388413343;ThickAsThieves;and trades under a certain value arent shown 433269;1388413356;ThickAsThieves;like .01 or something, kakobrekla had better details 433270;1388413360;ThickAsThieves;has* 433271;1388413365;ArsKisS;ah, ok 433272;1388413371;ArsKisS;thanks for explaining 433273;1388413374;ThickAsThieves;np 433274;1388413384;ArsKisS;I've been wondering a while how it sorts out when to announce and when not 433275;1388413393;ArsKisS;certainly can't be announcing all trades :D 433276;1388413401;ThickAsThieves;it used to 433277;1388413407;ArsKisS;must be flood :D 433278;1388413412;ThickAsThieves;during much busier times too 433279;1388413421;ArsKisS;sounds evil 433280;1388413428;ThickAsThieves;its not bad really 433281;1388413433;ThickAsThieves;but better like this 433282;1388413455;ArsKisS;agree 433283;1388413463;ArsKisS;btw what do you guys think about seedcoin? 433284;1388413518;ThickAsThieves;what do YOU think about it 433285;1388413539;ArsKisS;:E 433286;1388413579;ArsKisS;well, I just started seeing what's inside 433287;1388413597;ThickAsThieves;i met the Hive people once, they seem to have their act together 433288;1388413610;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 330 @ 0.00290998 = 0.9603 BTC [+] {2} 433289;1388413611;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.0499999 = 0.35 BTC [+] 433290;1388413666;ThickAsThieves;but otherwise, I know nothing of the Seedcoin manager, so it's hard for me to count on him to choose and make good deals 433291;1388413671;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28200 @ 0.00088727 = 25.021 BTC [+] 433292;1388413853;ArsKisS;https://btc.sx/ 433293;1388413870;ArsKisS;this might be bad ass site if they get traffic 433294;1388413903;mikaeldice;How can I confirm and test (on the endpoint) the connection to the DH? 433295;1388413903;mikaeldice;Also, can you provide some query commands to check overall health of Access 433296;1388413906;mikaeldice;Control? 433297;1388413908;mikaeldice;I am relatively new in this role and am only aware of policyfetcher.log 433298;1388413911;mikaeldice;Are there any quick reference guides you can recommend? I have tried to look 433299;1388413914;mikaeldice;at the full guides but am getting a little lost on how to translate them and 433300;1388413917;mikaeldice;relate them to my environment. 433301;1388413918;mikaeldice;Sorry 433302;1388413920;Gotchawallet;hmm derivatives 433303;1388413920;mikaeldice;whoops 433304;1388413929;ArsKisS;derp? 433305;1388413965;mikaeldice;Yeah, derped.. Right clicked the wrong window :P 433306;1388414034;mikaeldice;Thankfully no client data in there 433307;1388414082;ArsKisS;one thing about seedcoin that I'm pretty sure of is that it will after the IPO 433308;1388414092;ArsKisS;anyone disagrees for a good reason? :P 433309;1388414105;ArsKisS;it will dive 433310;1388414117;ArsKisS;how can I lose a whole word by typo :O 433311;1388414186;pankkake;see Dealcoin by the same guys 433312;1388414364;mikaeldice;10k BTC seems a high valuation 433313;1388414486;mikaeldice;You'd think people would rather invest in the individual startups themselves, given that there's little mentioned regarding the fund operator's experience or past results 433314;1388414551;ArsKisS;yup 433315;1388414575;ArsKisS;I'd rather invest straight to btc.sx or cryptopay 433316;1388414797;VanCleef;lol 10k btc 433317;1388414814;VanCleef;id rather delete my wallet.dat file 433318;1388416294;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.29102002 = 0.582 BTC [-] {2} 433319;1388416355;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.29000002 = 2.32 BTC [-] {2} 433320;1388416416;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25200 @ 0.00088444 = 22.2879 BTC [-] 433321;1388418002;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.00290999 = 1.455 BTC [+] 433322;1388418185;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16300 @ 0.00088444 = 14.4164 BTC [-] 433323;1388419005;mircea_popescu;ArsKisS there's a streaming chan wiuth al;l trades 433324;1388419075;mircea_popescu;mikaeldice investing directly is much like shooting porn directly. you need an erection and you need to not be camera shy 433325;1388419157;ThickAsThieves;and someone to screw 433326;1388419168;mircea_popescu;rarely a problem, that 433327;1388419185;mircea_popescu;buy a bottle of wine, you're good to go 433328;1388419613;VanCleef;put a small chilie in your ass and you're good to go 433329;1388420015;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 173 @ 0.00290999 = 0.5034 BTC [+] 433330;1388420442;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31050 @ 0.00088442 = 27.4612 BTC [-] {2} 433331;1388421003;ThickAsThieves;https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1496149_10152097077945783_1720436486_o.jpg 433332;1388421052;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.29989998 = 2.3992 BTC [+] {4} 433333;1388421349;mircea_popescu;i see your pic and raise you http://watchdogwire.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/florida/files/2013/06/woman-baby-and-shotgun-630x286.jpg 433334;1388421398;mircea_popescu;wait, i found the good one. http://hypebeast.com/image/2008/07/terry-richardson-vice-magazine-11.jpg 433335;1388421408;ThickAsThieves;nice 433336;1388421785;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 2100 @ 0.001 = 2.1 BTC 433337;1388422272;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45188 @ 0.00088947 = 40.1934 BTC [+] {3} 433338;1388422851;deadweasel;http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-25550512 433339;1388422854;deadweasel;lol, hack.bat 433340;1388422882;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1889 @ 0.001 = 1.889 BTC 433341;1388422887;ozbot;BBC News - Cash machines robbed with infected USB sticks 433342;1388423004;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 10000 @ 0.001 = 10 BTC 433343;1388423126;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC 433344;1388423187;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00291 = 0.291 BTC [+] 433345;1388423475;pankkake;I thought autorun on usb keys was disabled 433346;1388423488;pankkake;unless they're using very old windows versions. oh wait… that's what they do 433347;1388423514;pankkake;anyway, title should be "dollar hacked, loses value overnight" 433348;1388423553;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20307 @ 0.00089451 = 18.1648 BTC [+] {2} 433349;1388423680;ThickAsThieves;sounds like the hackers knew the machine well 433350;1388423698;ThickAsThieves;probly former workers 433351;1388423879;VanCleef;can anyone explain what really happened to bitfunders users coins? 433352;1388423942;ThickAsThieves;Ukyo can 433353;1388423988;Ukyo;thats a simple answer. they were transfered to weexchange 433354;1388423996;VanCleef;his explanation is "they are just gone, this is a fact" 433355;1388424113;VanCleef;and then? 433356;1388424216;Ukyo;thats not what I said. 433357;1388424220;Ukyo;I said that are not available. 433358;1388424222;Ukyo;and that is a fact. 433359;1388424237;Ukyo;anywho, back to working on the amportal 433360;1388424272;VanCleef;but that doesn't actually explain anything 433361;1388424304;VanCleef;your reason for why bitfunderes users coins are not avilable is because they are not available lol 433362;1388424330;ThickAsThieves;you act like youll magicaly get an answer now 433363;1388424337;ThickAsThieves;magically 433364;1388424374;VanCleef;let me put it this way 433365;1388424425;pankkake;he asked "can anyone" - maybe others do 433366;1388424515;ThickAsThieves;i'd like to know WHEN we'll get the real story 433367;1388424522;ThickAsThieves;or what conditions must be met to get it 433368;1388424525;ThickAsThieves;or such 433369;1388424525;pankkake;not that the why really matters… scammer or incompetent, it's a very thin line nowadays 433370;1388424533;VanCleef;say my friend gave me a million dollars in a bag and dropped it to my house to watch it for him and he'll be back in a week. Then i go out and have a crazy week or maybe i call my friend and ask him to sneak into my house at night and steal the bag. Now, my other friends comes back a week later to pick up the bag. But there is no bag and he asks me what happened and i say i dont know its just not here anymore. 433371;1388424567;ThickAsThieves;except that's not the case 433372;1388424590;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 300 @ 0.002919 = 0.8757 BTC [+] 433373;1388424651;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 152 @ 0.00189887 = 0.2886 BTC [+] {2} 433374;1388424652;VanCleef;i think i owe it to my friend to say to him "look i was a dickhead and i spent the million dollars, i'm sorry" 433375;1388424702;ThickAsThieves;i'm not gonna bother speculating as to what may complicate things to be like they are 433376;1388424709;ThickAsThieves;but they are this way nonetheless 433377;1388424712;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 90 @ 0.00219555 = 0.1976 BTC [+] {2} 433378;1388424779;VanCleef;its just a huge mindfuck that's all 433379;1388424810;pankkake;why? 433380;1388424815;VanCleef;i really hope there is a real explanation of what really happened oneday when the time is right 433381;1388424836;Ukyo;agreed. 433382;1388424839;ThickAsThieves;i can appreciat ethat 433383;1388424872;ThickAsThieves;no closure for many of the bitcoin losses like these 433384;1388424903;VanCleef;if Ukyo promises to do that i will stop 433385;1388424906;ThickAsThieves;Ukyo is making a point of leaving hope on the table 433386;1388424912;Ukyo;thats been the promise all along VanCleef 433387;1388424933;VanCleef;ok good 433388;1388424945;VanCleef;i will stop for now then and let you get on with it 433389;1388424953;pankkake;:| 433390;1388424966;ThickAsThieves;itll be nice to get these AM shares 433391;1388424973;ThickAsThieves;and the back divs 433392;1388425030;ThickAsThieves;what do you guys think about the bitcoin ATM business 433393;1388425069;VanCleef;have you seen those people at airports ThickAsThieves were you can go exchange different currencies? 433394;1388425091;VanCleef;i would liek to do something similar like that with a person instead of an ATM 433395;1388425100;pankkake;can you get cash for bitcoins, or can only buy? 433396;1388425102;ThickAsThieves;yeah they are a ripoff 433397;1388425108;ThickAsThieves;both pankkake 433398;1388425117;pankkake;oh… now that is more interesting 433399;1388425125;ThickAsThieves;yeah 433400;1388425130;VanCleef;or a drone :P 433401;1388425138;ThickAsThieves;lol 433402;1388425139;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 3683 @ 0.001 = 3.683 BTC 433403;1388425140;pankkake;and no one is trying to stop it? :) 433404;1388425151;VanCleef;btc drones are the future :P 433405;1388425154;ThickAsThieves;no 433406;1388425168;ThickAsThieves;https://robocoinkiosk.com 433407;1388425179;ThickAsThieves;they are uglier than the Lamassu 433408;1388425188;ThickAsThieves;but probably a better experience 433409;1388425209;VanCleef;http://bitcoinsodamachine.com/ 433410;1388425210;ozbot;Bitcoin Soda Machine | Make your soda machine take Bitcoins today. 433411;1388425211;ThickAsThieves;lamassu looks too easy to rob 433412;1388425239;ThickAsThieves;robocoin is 750lbs 433413;1388425261;VanCleef;lamassu would be good to have in 7-11's or something 433414;1388425264;ThickAsThieves;put one in every pawn shop? 433415;1388425277;ThickAsThieves;or jeweler 433416;1388425282;ThickAsThieves;or mall 433417;1388425307;ThickAsThieves;where do 25-45yo yuppies feel safe and frequent 433418;1388425321;ThickAsThieves;gyms? 433419;1388425344;pankkake;starbucks 433420;1388425354;ThickAsThieves;thatd be tough 433421;1388425372;ThickAsThieves;i could probly strike a deal with a business owner to host one 433422;1388425375;ThickAsThieves;but not a franchise 433423;1388425386;ThickAsThieves;at least not yet 433424;1388425401;pankkake;only joking, these are terrible places, but that answers your question :p 433425;1388425426;ThickAsThieves;it does? 433426;1388425438;pankkake;"where do 25-45yo yuppies feel safe and frequent" 433427;1388425441;ThickAsThieves;oh 433428;1388425457;ThickAsThieves;well we're narrowing it down then 433429;1388425483;ThickAsThieves;to establishments that may accept a fledgling bitcoin ATM service 433430;1388425495;ThickAsThieves;so that rules out banks too 433431;1388425506;pankkake;otherwise, shops, any place where there are ATMs already 433432;1388425511;ThickAsThieves;nah 433433;1388425521;ThickAsThieves;i dont think it translates 433434;1388425527;ThickAsThieves;this is an invetsment, like gold 433435;1388425534;ThickAsThieves;its not like ATMs for cash 433436;1388425561;Gotchawallet;7-11 = southland corporation I did some contract work for them on behalf of hewlett packard. They are "very" open minded about any revenue making opportunities. Their current machines are called 'vcom' and are pretty obnoxious. they're a *huge* franchise. 433437;1388425608;ThickAsThieves;would you bring $5000 to a 7-11? 433438;1388425627;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 500 @ 0.001 = 0.5 BTC 433439;1388425629;Gotchawallet;eh? i have before as in cash in pocket..what do you mean? 433440;1388425632;pankkake;http://www.compte-nickel.fr/ is a new French alternative to banks, and their distribution network is tobacco shops (who sell a bunch of other things, it's a "french thing") 433441;1388425633;ThickAsThieves;i mean it could work 433442;1388425637;ThickAsThieves;on sheer volume 433443;1388425639;ThickAsThieves;but 433444;1388425643;ThickAsThieves;bitcoin isnt popular enough 433445;1388425649;ThickAsThieves;it needs to be more of a destination 433446;1388425660;Gotchawallet;it has to have capabilities other than bitcoin at least initially 433447;1388425665;ThickAsThieves;pankkake, yeah see i like that 433448;1388425669;ThickAsThieves;gotta reframe it 433449;1388425673;Gotchawallet;maybe bitcoin + atm 433450;1388425682;ThickAsThieves;not an option currently 433451;1388425708;Gotchawallet;bitcoin + atm + photo lab + video rental 433452;1388425711;Gotchawallet;lulz 433453;1388425713;ThickAsThieves;hehe 433454;1388425718;ThickAsThieves;bitcoin and auto parts 433455;1388425725;Gotchawallet;and dry cleaning 433456;1388425748;Gotchawallet;anyway thats my .02 but great brainstorming love it 433457;1388425782;pankkake;get a bitcoin paper wallet with your picture on it? 433458;1388425792;ThickAsThieves;so far i like: current buy gold shops, jewelers, pawn shops 433459;1388425817;Gotchawallet;"buy gold" stores would make a lot of sense 433460;1388425864;ThickAsThieves;none of those quite tap into the tech audience 433461;1388425878;Gotchawallet;and why cant they be sold via a website again? 433462;1388425895;ThickAsThieves;how do we tie Gold shops with tech with investing 433463;1388425922;ThickAsThieves;HR Block? 433464;1388425980;ThickAsThieves;wives make the financial decisions right? 433465;1388425985;ThickAsThieves;totally untapped market 433466;1388426003;ThickAsThieves;[12:51] and why cant they be sold via a website again? <<< because that market is saturated 433467;1388426011;ThickAsThieves;and that's more work 433468;1388426255;ThickAsThieves;i know 433469;1388426261;ThickAsThieves;Video Game stores 433470;1388426300;ThickAsThieves;get the store to accept em too 433471;1388426338;pankkake;it's a dying business, which is good 433472;1388426409;ThickAsThieves;Apple stores would be perfect 433473;1388426412;ThickAsThieves;fat chance 433474;1388426432;pankkake;lol, so many reasons it will not happen 433475;1388426548;ThickAsThieves;there's a plaza in jacksonville with a video game shop AND a Jeweler 433476;1388426556;ThickAsThieves;and a bank! 433477;1388426637;ThickAsThieves;lol 433478;1388426642;ThickAsThieves;and a Buy Gold shop 433479;1388426649;ThickAsThieves;thats whats up 433480;1388427972;deadweasel;TAT, put them in Pawn Shops 433481;1388427975;deadweasel;:) 433482;1388428149;Gotchawallet;i likes 433483;1388428190;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.02291159 = 0.1146 BTC [+] {3} 433484;1388428250;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 8 @ 0.02341121 = 0.1873 BTC [+] {3} 433485;1388428391;benkay;!l m s.mpoe 433486;1388428391;assbot;Last trade for S.MPOE on MPEX was at 0.00089451 BTC [+] 433487;1388428466;benkay;;;ticker --btcavg 433488;1388428466;gribble;(ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market |all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Mtgox. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure the code (1 more message) 433489;1388428479;benkay;;;ticker --market btcavg 433490;1388428479;gribble;BitcoinAverage BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 761.98, Best ask: 764.18, Bid-ask spread: 2.20000, Last trade: 762.4, 24 hour volume: 33352.24, 24 hour low: None, 24 hour high: None, 24 hour vwap: 749.07 433491;1388428495;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 195 @ 0.00292 = 0.5694 BTC [+] 433492;1388429226;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 47 @ 0.002929 = 0.1377 BTC [+] 433493;1388430324;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2789 @ 0.00008037 = 0.2242 BTC [-] {9} 433494;1388430690;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 574 @ 0.00292532 = 1.6791 BTC [-] {2} 433495;1388430812;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35123 @ 0.00089778 = 31.5327 BTC [+] {2} 433496;1388431666;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 80 @ 0.0027 = 0.216 BTC [+] 433497;1388431910;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.29 = 0.58 BTC [-] 433498;1388432826;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SMG] 2999 @ 0.00012599 = 0.3778 BTC [-] {3} 433499;1388432886;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 132 @ 0.00291 = 0.3841 BTC [-] 433500;1388433096;benkay;hey nerds y'all gotta check out floobits 433501;1388433152;Gotchawallet;werd 433502;1388433173;Gotchawallet;thats tight 433503;1388433182;benkay;fucking legit, too. 433504;1388433188;Gotchawallet;seems legit 433505;1388433194;benkay;homie's hacking in sublime and i'm watching in emacs 433506;1388433196;benkay;handoff is seamless 433507;1388433208;benkay;text propagates in all directions 433508;1388433215;Gotchawallet;i dont want a fawking plan tho i want teh source 433509;1388433230;Gotchawallet;so i can host, market and resell for leet profits 433510;1388433423;benkay;this isn't open source 433511;1388433430;benkay;this is SAAS 433512;1388433435;benkay;(like sparta) 433513;1388433472;thestringpuller;you can do the same shit with screen 433514;1388433483;thestringpuller;niggas can hack in on a box 433515;1388433495;thestringpuller;in vim or whatever and you can watch in another screen session :P 433516;1388433513;benkay;good luck hooking designers into that 433517;1388433571;thestringpuller;fuck the designers 433518;1388433576;thestringpuller;they don't deserve gucci suits 433519;1388433579;thestringpuller;and gator boots 433520;1388433594;thestringpuller;maybe I'll oblige their pull requests 433521;1388433676;pankkake;there's gobby, but it sucks 433522;1388433707;pankkake;ah, a vim plugin 433523;1388433862;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 2000 @ 0.001 = 2 BTC 433524;1388434603;ArsKisS;hmm 433525;1388434614;ArsKisS;people seem to actually buy that Seedcoin ipo 433526;1388434736;ArsKisS;1197225 / 1500000 bought 433527;1388436589;nubbins`;hi 433528;1388436732;ThickAsThieves;hi 433529;1388436851;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26269 @ 0.00090055 = 23.6565 BTC [+] 433530;1388437095;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.286 = 0.572 BTC [-] 433531;1388437104;twizt;sup n00bins 433532;1388437221;nubbins`;not much 433533;1388437240;nubbins`;just stained my cuticles a lovely Pantone 7467 U 433534;1388437274;nubbins`;looking forward to having teal fingers for the next two weeks ;( 433535;1388437385;ThickAsThieves;that a blue? 433536;1388437401;nubbins`;yeah, greenish blue 433537;1388437419;ThickAsThieves;i used to know so many by heart 433538;1388437424;nubbins`;equal parts green and process blue 433539;1388437446;nubbins`;1:1 with mixing white 433540;1388437459;nubbins`;in a nice creamy matte base 433541;1388437468;ThickAsThieves;also memorized the "real" colors people want to change them to 433542;1388437472;nubbins`;heh 433543;1388437478;ThickAsThieves;like when people want 480 in paper 433544;1388437483;ThickAsThieves;they always complain 433545;1388437493;ThickAsThieves;gotta give em 1797 433546;1388437504;ThickAsThieves;assuming this is eyeballing clients 433547;1388437510;ThickAsThieves;rather than corporate, etc 433548;1388437530;ThickAsThieves;(i'm talking process, sorry) 433549;1388437539;nubbins`;heh 433550;1388437560;nubbins`;i'm lucky to receive artwork with fucking spot colors 433551;1388437563;ThickAsThieves;i never actually worked with spots directly 433552;1388437567;nubbins`;let alone specifying pantones 433553;1388437596;nubbins`;i tell ya, you're not a graphic designer until you've worked in print 433554;1388437607;nubbins`;the shortcuts people take 433555;1388437611;nubbins`;"the printer will figure it out" 433556;1388437612;ThickAsThieves;i worked in print, just not paper 433557;1388437619;ThickAsThieves;well, not proce 433558;1388437622;ThickAsThieves;oops 433559;1388437623;ThickAsThieves;sry 433560;1388437632;nubbins`;ah, same diff. coated vs uncoated ;) 433561;1388437642;ThickAsThieves;worked at newspaper, large format, but never a press 433562;1388437646;nubbins`;altho there's a surprising difference between the two 433563;1388437659;ThickAsThieves;i toured a few shops 433564;1388437665;ThickAsThieves;as a client 433565;1388437708;nubbins`;we actually have use for both uncoated and coated colors, which is a bit of a rarity, i think 433566;1388437719;nubbins`;uncoated for all our flatstock 433567;1388437730;nubbins`;coated for fabric 433568;1388437799;nubbins`;you may appreciate this, actually 433569;1388437803;nubbins`;last poster print we did 433570;1388437804;nubbins`;http://www.gigposters.com/forums/process/160317-hey-rosetta-show-poster-pictures-thoughts.html#post2070279 433571;1388437806;ozbot;Hey Rosetta show poster - pictures and thoughts 433572;1388437809;nubbins`;er sorry 433573;1388437812;nubbins`;http://www.gigposters.com/forums/process/160317-hey-rosetta-show-poster-pictures-thoughts.html 433574;1388437813;ozbot;Hey Rosetta show poster - pictures and thoughts 433575;1388437977;ThickAsThieves;good job 433576;1388437997;ThickAsThieves;i couldnt do it 433577;1388438005;ThickAsThieves;i'm done wrestling printers 433578;1388438010;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.05 = 0.5 BTC [+] 433579;1388438112;nubbins`;i almost gave it up today 433580;1388438119;nubbins`;but that describes like 150 days out of every year 433581;1388438119;nubbins`;;p 433582;1388438255;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.0495 = 0.1485 BTC [-] 433583;1388438315;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.28511037 = 0.5702 BTC [-] 433584;1388439356;deanclkclk;question to you folks..is BTC-e.com an legal entity? 433585;1388439407;kakobrekla;prolly 433586;1388439427;mike_c;they are russian. that feels like an anwer. 433587;1388439437;mike_c;*answer 433588;1388439485;benkay;"legal entity" 433589;1388439525;benkay;well they exist, and they do bitcoin. fiat governments are going to learn soon how difficult it can be to fuck with bitcoin companies that are dedicated to stay beyond their grasp. 433590;1388439558;mike_c;putin will fuck with whoever he wants. 433591;1388439567;kakobrekla;its easy to shutdown btc-es banks prolly 433592;1388439583;mike_c;he will steal their super bowl rings 433593;1388439587;kakobrekla;and i doubt they will have personal accounts for that amounts even in russia 433594;1388439596;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 233 @ 0.00294334 = 0.6858 BTC [+] {3} 433595;1388439597;benkay;btc-e takes fiat deposits? 433596;1388439611;benkay;dag well i guess they're coupled to the old world then huh 433597;1388439613;kakobrekla;has been doing so for a long time afaik 433598;1388439631;benkay;yeah i must have been thinking about some other sexchange. 433599;1388439840;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0495 = 0.2475 BTC [-] 433600;1388440877;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27000 @ 0.00089664 = 24.2093 BTC [-] 433601;1388441679;benkay;thugs and goons making more noise in the united socialist states of america: http://www.jsonline.com/watchdog/watchdogreports/atf-uses-rogue-tactics-in-storefront-stings-across-the-nation-b99146765z1-234916641.html 433602;1388441909;pankkake;ATF is a fun agency name. it sounds like "banning everything fun" 433603;1388442016;Gotchawallet;heh 433604;1388442463;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 338 @ 0.00295 = 0.9971 BTC [+] 433605;1388443134;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 427 @ 0.001 = 0.427 BTC 433606;1388443716;deanclkclk;my point is..is BTC-E compliant with anti money laundering? 433607;1388443735;deanclkclk;or I"m thinking that in mother russia..it's more lax when it comes to that 433608;1388443748;deanclkclk;@ mike_c 433609;1388443807;deanclkclk;@ kakobrekla 433610;1388443825;kakobrekla; my point is..is BTC-E compliant with anti money laundering? 433611;1388443833;kakobrekla;#bitcoin-standup 433612;1388443838;deanclkclk;@ kakobrekla hmm 433613;1388443839;Duffer1;ha 433614;1388443842;deanclkclk;ok 433615;1388443856;deanclkclk;I wanted to create an exchange but, I don't want to comply with anti money laundering 433616;1388443863;mike_c;https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=4544.15 433617;1388443875;deanclkclk;because, it takes away anonymity from my clients 433618;1388443876;kakobrekla;I want four chicks on my dick but only one fits 433619;1388443918;mike_c;"Part of the FINCEN guidelines are establishing a sufficient anti money laundering program. BTC-e has none." < from random internet poster. fwiw. 433620;1388443925;kakobrekla;im sorry were we not playing "i want" game? 433621;1388443952;deanclkclk;kakobrekla: your dick is either too big or too small 433622;1388443963;kakobrekla;i think the problem is in the vaginas 433623;1388443968;kakobrekla;but yeah 433624;1388443981;deanclkclk;well ..I'm not in the US but, my country has a law similar 433625;1388443987;deanclkclk;so I have to comply 433626;1388443992;mike_c;i want a turnkey hack-proof web server. 433627;1388444001;mike_c;let me know when it arrives. 433628;1388444018;deanclkclk;an exchange mike_c ? 433629;1388444020;kakobrekla;i want to win i want game 433630;1388444036;mike_c;no, web server. i am sick of sys-admin'ing. 433631;1388444055;kakobrekla;hire someone 433632;1388444066;mike_c;hah. anyone i would trust more than me I couldn't afford. 433633;1388444089;kakobrekla;hm 433634;1388444093;kakobrekla;thats too bad 433635;1388444110;mike_c;yes. stop ruining my 'i want'. 433636;1388444136;kakobrekla;im not ruining, im addint to yours, now you also have the "i want a sysadmin who i can trust, for a buck" card 433637;1388444140;mike_c;hehe 433638;1388444171;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.286 = 0.572 BTC [+] 433639;1388444277;deanclkclk;twizt: are you around? 433640;1388444384;Duffer1;dean you want to create a fiat/btc exchange? 433641;1388444446;kakobrekla;its easy, with a string and two cans you can match bitstamp 433642;1388444452;kakobrekla;and throw in another string 433643;1388444455;kakobrekla;you can beat them. 433644;1388444860;ArsKisS;:D 433645;1388445574;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 27 @ 0.09999612 = 2.6999 BTC [+] {3} 433646;1388445757;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 18 @ 0.1 = 1.8 BTC [+] 433647;1388446001;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.28800001 = 0.864 BTC [+] 433648;1388446184;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.1 = 0.2 BTC [+] 433649;1388446672;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 135 @ 0.00295 = 0.3983 BTC [+] 433650;1388447404;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.29 BTC [+] 433651;1388448441;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 24 @ 0.1 = 2.4 BTC [+] 433652;1388448502;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.29 BTC [+] 433653;1388448685;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00090455 = 4.975 BTC [+] 433654;1388451796;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.1 = 0.8 BTC [+] 433655;1388451918;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.02389999 = 0.239 BTC [+] {2} 433656;1388451979;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 50 @ 0.00324 = 0.162 BTC [+] 433657;1388452101;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 200 @ 0.001 = 0.2 BTC 433658;1388452223;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 47 @ 0.00324 = 0.1523 BTC [+] 433659;1388452224;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19697 @ 0.0009026 = 17.7785 BTC [-] 433660;1388452589;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2403 @ 0.00089804 = 2.158 BTC [-] 433661;1388452711;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 65 @ 0.002498 = 0.1624 BTC [-] {2} 433662;1388453931;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24428 @ 0.00090501 = 22.1076 BTC [+] {2} 433663;1388456737;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.29 BTC [+] 433664;1388457591;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14850 @ 0.00090407 = 13.4254 BTC [-] {2} 433665;1388460702;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.29979921 = 1.1992 BTC [+] {2} 433666;1388460824;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 18 @ 0.29989997 = 5.3982 BTC [+] {7} 433667;1388461068;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.13 BTC [+] 433668;1388461129;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 12 @ 0.13883333 = 1.666 BTC [+] {2} 433669;1388461190;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0495 = 0.2475 BTC [-] 433670;1388461495;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21550 @ 0.00090628 = 19.5303 BTC [+] 433671;1388461861;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 3 @ 0.038 = 0.114 BTC [-] 433672;1388462559;benkay;;;calc .001 * 107230 433673;1388462560;gribble;107.23 433674;1388463325;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2999 BTC [+] 433675;1388463386;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.29999 = 1.5 BTC [+] 433676;1388463508;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9350 @ 0.00090326 = 8.4455 BTC [-] 433677;1388463569;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 13 @ 0.30999989 = 4.03 BTC [+] {2} 433678;1388464591;rbonestell;I'm looking for unofficial Havelock portfolio Android app alpha users to provide feedback! Join this group for early alpha download access from Google Play: https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/110407867246135171194 433679;1388464725;Duffer1;don't they have an official app? 433680;1388464810;rbonestell;Not to my knowledge, there is another unofficial app but it costs 0.99$ and wasn't to my liking. 433681;1388464833;Duffer1;ah 433682;1388464891;rbonestell;Here's what myHavelock looks like: http://i.imgur.com/3tFyqv9.png 433683;1388465108;Duffer1;cool 433684;1388465554;Duffer1;;;gpg ident rbonestell 433685;1388465555;gribble;Nick 'rbonestell', with hostmask 'rbonestell!~rbonestel@ip98-165-204-38.ph.ph.cox.net', is not identified. 433686;1388465784;rbonestell;;;gpg 433687;1388465784;gribble;Error: "gpg" is not a valid command. 433688;1388465804;rbonestell;I'm not familiar with gribble yet :) 433689;1388465816;Duffer1;ah 433690;1388465829;Duffer1;google search bitcoin-otc and bitcoin web of trust 433691;1388465910;rbonestell;oh, that's cool! 433692;1388465941;rbonestell;This is what I love about the bitcoin community, all the innovation 433693;1388466188;Duffer1;it's a pretty helpful tool 433694;1388466436;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.3000175 = 2.4001 BTC [-] {3} 433695;1388466863;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.30000401 = 0.6 BTC [-] 433696;1388466864;benkay;yo mircea_popescu what os do you personally use? 433697;1388467430;Gotchawallet;probably something like mpOS 433698;1388467529;Duffer1;2btc to turn on 433699;1388467569;Duffer1;solid white ui 433700;1388467600;Duffer1;randomly punches you in the dick to toughen you up 433701;1388467653;Duffer1;computational outputs negotiable 433702;1388467905;assbot;Last 6 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1530659/plain/) 433703;1388467905;benkay;!b 6 433704;1388468244;KRS|Gotyawallet;yes no hires graphics, only some colorful play of ascii here and there 433705;1388468277;KRS|Gotyawallet;.5 btc/day per gigabyte 433706;1388468285;mircea_popescu;benkay nixes 433707;1388468324;Duffer1;the calculator only works logarithmically 433708;1388468332;mircea_popescu;so basically... they pay 1k for an ipad to make it look like mpex ? 433709;1388468342;KRS|Gotyawallet;haha 433710;1388468370;mircea_popescu;and gpg is innovation now ? i'm sorry, back to the egg nogg i go. 433711;1388468378;mircea_popescu;i'm not yet ready to face this world. 433712;1388468392;KRS|Gotyawallet;hang in there i feel ya 433713;1388468781;benkay;what flavors of nixen mircea_popescu? 433714;1388468815;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.30000054 = 3.3 BTC [-] {3} 433715;1388468876;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.2999 = 1.4995 BTC [-] 433716;1388470403;Duffer1;london mist! why did i read that.. 433717;1388470593;benkay;http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2013/12/30/the-nsa-reportedly-has-total-access-to-your-iphone/ 433718;1388470593;ozbot;The NSA Reportedly Has Total Access To The Apple iPhone - Forbes 433719;1388470611;benkay;i would like a no such labs laptop plz 433720;1388470630;Duffer1;seriously 433721;1388470645;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 158 @ 0.00297089 = 0.4694 BTC [+] 433722;1388470671;kakobrekla;buy moar shares first 433723;1388470679;benkay;and actually a phone too. 433724;1388470683;benkay;phone can be dead simple. 433725;1388470698;benkay;12 + dpad 433726;1388470711;benkay;maybe a few menu buttons 433727;1388470746;kakobrekla;what about something like Johns Phone 433728;1388470768;Duffer1;shit they had agents planted in warcraft, get paid to play warcraft. if i was an asshole that would be my dream job 433729;1388470790;kakobrekla;www.johnsphones.com/store/item9 433730;1388470826;kakobrekla;gotta love the paper phonebook 433731;1388470844;Duffer1;they'll just intercept the package and install spyware all up in your gear 433732;1388470911;Duffer1;http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2013/12/29/report-nsa-intercepting-laptops-ordered-online-installing-spyware/ 433733;1388470911;ozbot;Report: NSA Intercepting Laptops Ordered Online, Installing Spyware - Forbes 433734;1388470932;benkay;sparkly nail polish is a surprisingly DIY tamper-evident process. that most companies use easily borked hologram stickers is pretty telling. 433735;1388470995;benkay;a company that put some energy into user privacy and security might make some money on a government-resistant personal and maybe corporate it toolchain 433736;1388471057;benkay;but psh nobody's ever going to build a company like that, and who would ever invest in it? 433737;1388472719;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 2000 @ 0.001 = 2 BTC 433738;1388472780;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45878 @ 0.00090326 = 41.4398 BTC [-] 433739;1388474062;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0495 = 0.2475 BTC [-] 433740;1388474122;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 17 @ 0.05 = 0.85 BTC [+] 433741;1388474305;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55200 @ 0.00090581 = 50.0007 BTC [+] {3} 433742;1388474549;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 9 @ 0.0239 = 0.2151 BTC [+] 433743;1388475159;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 7 @ 0.02447999 = 0.1714 BTC [+] 433744;1388475464;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 6 @ 0.02448 = 0.1469 BTC [+] {2} 433745;1388475586;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 15 @ 0.02499995 = 0.375 BTC [+] 433746;1388479734;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0495 = 0.2475 BTC [-] 433747;1388479957;mjr_;hi all 433748;1388481780;deego;hi mjr_ 433749;1388482052;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00091052 = 6.92 BTC [+] 433750;1388482723;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC 433751;1388483699;assbot;[MPEX] [S.NSA] 1050 @ 0.00012 = 0.126 BTC [-] 433752;1388484492;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6452 @ 0.00091051 = 5.8746 BTC [-] 433753;1388485834;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.00091052 = 9.6515 BTC [+] 433754;1388486444;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15839 @ 0.00090946 = 14.4049 BTC [-] {2} 433755;1388487359;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34300 @ 0.00091087 = 31.2428 BTC [+] {2} 433756;1388487787;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00091178 = 3.4648 BTC [+] 433757;1388488213;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36854 @ 0.00091295 = 33.6459 BTC [+] 433758;1388488396;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0495 = 0.495 BTC [-] 433759;1388488397;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32550 @ 0.00091295 = 29.7165 BTC [+] 433760;1388488701;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6935 @ 0.00091851 = 6.3699 BTC [+] 433761;1388493399;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 350 @ 0.0028702 = 1.0046 BTC [-] {3} 433762;1388494802;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] [PAID] 5.00000000 BTC to 50`000 shares, 10000 satoshi per share 433763;1388494863;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] [PAID] 26.00000000 BTC to 40`000 shares, 65000 satoshi per share 433764;1388495046;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 32 @ 0.02490001 = 0.7968 BTC [-] {2} 433765;1388495107;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 33 @ 0.02458788 = 0.8114 BTC [-] {3} 433766;1388495168;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25700 @ 0.00091295 = 23.4628 BTC [-] 433767;1388495839;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 25 @ 0.02369999 = 0.5925 BTC [-] {2} 433768;1388495961;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.30749988 BTC [+] 433769;1388495962;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 364 @ 0.00213955 = 0.7788 BTC [-] {2} 433770;1388496388;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 94 @ 0.00291495 = 0.274 BTC [+] 433771;1388496632;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.30749988 BTC [+] 433772;1388496815;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.30749988 BTC [+] 433773;1388497364;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15350 @ 0.00091851 = 14.0991 BTC [+] 433774;1388497547;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.30749988 BTC [+] 433775;1388497731;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.30749988 BTC [+] 433776;1388497736;KRS|Gotyawallet;anyone here use a tumbler? 433777;1388498401;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 38 @ 0.00291495 = 0.1108 BTC [+] 433778;1388498706;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.30749988 BTC [+] 433779;1388500292;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.30749988 = 1.23 BTC [+] 433780;1388500293;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 86 @ 0.00291496 = 0.2507 BTC [+] 433781;1388500353;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 301 @ 0.002915 = 0.8774 BTC [+] 433782;1388500597;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19509 @ 0.00090998 = 17.7528 BTC [-] {3} 433783;1388501471;deadweasel;RE: NSA intercepting laptops. Normal tools won't detect this... Is there a way to tell if a laptop was backdoored? 433784;1388501756;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 105 @ 0.00297088 = 0.3119 BTC [+] {2} 433785;1388501817;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 45 @ 0.00297089 = 0.1337 BTC [+] 433786;1388502705;deadweasel;the anser to the above question is NO, not without forensic expertise. phsyical backdoors and BIOS infections. 433787;1388503033;deadweasel;S.MG http://www.dosbox.com/information.php?page=0 433788;1388503281;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23450 @ 0.00090779 = 21.2877 BTC [-] 433789;1388503342;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.30749988 BTC [+] 433790;1388503403;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.30749989 = 1.23 BTC [+] 433791;1388503464;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.30749989 = 1.5375 BTC [+] {2} 433792;1388503525;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.3074999 = 0.9225 BTC [+] {2} 433793;1388503586;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3074999 BTC [+] 433794;1388503943;TomServo;.d 433795;1388503943;ozbot;1180923195.25803 | Next Diff in 273 blocks | Estimated Change: 17.7804% in 1d 13h 9m 4s 433796;1388504257;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.1449 = 1.449 BTC [+] 433797;1388504501;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.1449 = 0.4347 BTC [+] 433798;1388504989;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 300 @ 0.00297089 = 0.8913 BTC [+] 433799;1388505111;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.30749999 = 2.46 BTC [+] {5} 433800;1388505233;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.30924999 = 1.237 BTC [+] {2} 433801;1388505234;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 82 @ 0.00297089 = 0.2436 BTC [+] 433802;1388505295;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 484 @ 0.0029709 = 1.4379 BTC [+] 433803;1388505355;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.0029719 = 0.5944 BTC [+] 433804;1388506674;nubbins`;hi 433805;1388506741;tommy2;on bitbet.us - is there a way to view the last 100 or 200 propositions? http://bitbet.us/propositions/ only shows the last 50 433806;1388506941;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2069 @ 0.00297912 = 6.1638 BTC [+] {4} 433807;1388507063;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 523 @ 0.0029799 = 1.5585 BTC [+] 433808;1388507778;nubbins`;does gribs respond to orderbook commands here? guessing no 433809;1388507782;nubbins`;;;view 433810;1388507782;gribble;Error: Too many orders to list on IRC. Visit http://bitcoin-otc.com/vieworderbook.php?nick=nubbins` to see the list of matching orders. 433811;1388507784;nubbins`;hm 433812;1388507790;nubbins`;;;view 18967 433813;1388507796;gribble;#18967 Wed Dec 18 19:37:28 2013 nubbins` SELL 1.0 1 BTC S3 Silver Casascius Coin @ 2.2 BTC (Air-tite case, pgp chain of custody) 433814;1388507841;nubbins`;:o 433815;1388507856;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.1449 = 1.1592 BTC [+] 433816;1388508039;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.05 = 0.4 BTC [+] 433817;1388508161;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 424 @ 0.00043999 = 0.1866 BTC [+] {2} 433818;1388508162;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19600 @ 0.00090779 = 17.7927 BTC [-] 433819;1388508344;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.05 = 0.2 BTC [+] 433820;1388508345;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15568 @ 0.00091162 = 14.1921 BTC [+] {3} 433821;1388508649;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.05 = 0.5 BTC [+] 433822;1388508664;ThickAsThieves;https://www.bitstamp.net/article/new-trading-feature-added/ 433823;1388508665;ozbot;New trading feature added - Bitstamp 433824;1388508712;ThickAsThieves;the cans and string now has a rubber band 433825;1388508771;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [COG] 5 @ 0.03999897 = 0.2 BTC [+] 433826;1388508954;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 92 @ 0.0024 = 0.2208 BTC [+] {3} 433827;1388511306;ThickAsThieves;;;estimate 433828;1388511306;gribble;Next difficulty estimate | None based on data since last change | 1453392314.72 based on data for last three days 433829;1388511325;pankkake;http://thefxview.com/2013/12/30/markets-com-launches-bitcoin-cfds/ 433830;1388511326;ozbot;Markets.com launches Bitcoin CFD's - The FX View 433831;1388511590;ThickAsThieves;CySEC is the Cyprus Exchange 433832;1388511821;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 9 @ 0.02291039 = 0.2062 BTC [-] {4} 433833;1388511943;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.02291039 = 0.1146 BTC [-] 433834;1388512065;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 420 @ 0.00044176 = 0.1855 BTC [+] 433835;1388516396;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24300 @ 0.0009111 = 22.1397 BTC [-] {2} 433836;1388516762;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48552 @ 0.00091225 = 44.2916 BTC [+] {4} 433837;1388517860;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24800 @ 0.00091451 = 22.6798 BTC [+] 433838;1388518277;benkay;https://clipperz.is/ 433839;1388518546;KRS|Gotyawallet;hmm i like 433840;1388518570;KRS|Gotyawallet;bitcoin as payment fits nicely into their transparency policy 433841;1388518598;KRS|Gotyawallet;actually i meant anonyminity (sp?) 433842;1388518656;benkay;anonymity; close. 433843;1388518714;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.145 = 1.45 BTC [+] 433844;1388518775;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.15 BTC [+] 433845;1388520049;nubbins`;http://imgur.com/c1kWYUh 433846;1388520049;ozbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 433847;1388520178;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 56 @ 0.0029799 = 0.1669 BTC [+] 433848;1388520870;KRS|Gotyawallet;hash? 433849;1388520891;nubbins`;nod 433850;1388520901;nubbins`;new method 433851;1388520917;KRS|Gotyawallet;send 433852;1388520920;nubbins`;place shot glass of kif in a pan of boiling water for 10 minutes 433853;1388520946;nubbins`;press with end of chopstick until gummy, put on glass surface, press and fold until brown 433854;1388520983;KRS|Gotyawallet;u sure thats a new method? 433855;1388520988;nubbins`;haha, no 433856;1388520990;nubbins`;new to me tho 433857;1388520992;KRS|Gotyawallet;ah 433858;1388521006;KRS|Gotyawallet;good stuff 433859;1388521012;nubbins`;it sure will be 433860;1388521031;nubbins`;it took 14g of PK to make :P 433861;1388521064;KRS|Gotyawallet;but worth it 433862;1388521070;nubbins`;nod 433863;1388521079;nubbins`;mildly inconvenient to smoke, but the best smell/taste 433864;1388521082;nubbins`;nice and spicy 433865;1388521084;KRS|Gotyawallet;oh yea 433866;1388521635;nubbins`;KRS|Gotyawallet: it bubbles :0 433867;1388521654;KRS|Gotyawallet;hehe yea i love the smell 433868;1388521686;nubbins`;i've actually never seen hash bubble before 433869;1388521712;nubbins`;this is great :D 433870;1388521764;KRS|Gotyawallet;ya i've always seen the bubble i think it also means you did it right 433871;1388521947;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 130 @ 0.00295 = 0.3835 BTC [+] 433872;1388522130;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 175 @ 0.001 = 0.175 BTC 433873;1388522252;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.30999958 BTC [+] 433874;1388522679;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 84 @ 0.00218914 = 0.1839 BTC [+] {2} 433875;1388522680;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 9443 @ 0.00009744 = 0.9201 BTC [-] {2} 433876;1388522862;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 480 @ 0.00234 = 1.1232 BTC [+] 433877;1388523001;benkay;nubbins`: hash oil specific vaporizers are pretty legit as well. 433878;1388523016;KRS|Gotyawallet;i think vape isn't as bad for you either 433879;1388523041;KRS|Gotyawallet;ive been smoking this vape e-cig with english toffee as the flavor its not bad! 433880;1388523053;KRS|Gotyawallet;USB charger 433881;1388523076;benkay;you do avoid all the particulate matter 433882;1388523095;KRS|Gotyawallet;i think thats the idea 433883;1388523106;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.15999 BTC [+] 433884;1388523110;benkay;hasn't kept the communists from derping around about it though: http://www.businessinsider.com/new-york-city-e-cigarette-ban-2013-12 433885;1388523115;ll;i tried butter rum, it was gross 433886;1388523124;KRS|Gotyawallet;ban e-cig's? wtf? 433887;1388523133;benkay;murca. 433888;1388523187;KRS|Gotyawallet;im not allowed to vaporize flavored oil in public in NYC? 433889;1388523209;KRS|Gotyawallet;I rly think I need to move but I can't figure out anywhere to live that isn't f'd up 433890;1388523217;KRS|Gotyawallet;this place has gone mad 433891;1388523289;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 10000 @ 0.001 = 10 BTC 433892;1388523290;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 64 @ 0.0029 = 0.1856 BTC [-] {2} 433893;1388523472;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 224 @ 0.0029799 = 0.6675 BTC [+] 433894;1388523563;benkay;the madness has hardly begun to set in. 433895;1388523594;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 376 @ 0.0029799 = 1.1204 BTC [+] 433896;1388524021;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 70000 @ 0.001 = 70 BTC 433897;1388524082;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC 433898;1388524278;the20year1;70btc? Nice 433899;1388524297;benkay;shoulda bought an mpex seat. 433900;1388524313;the20year1;how much are they? 433901;1388524318;benkay;30. 433902;1388524400;the20year1;That's for issuers, right? 433903;1388524407;benkay;nope. that's to play. 433904;1388524416;mike_c;25 with referral 433905;1388524435;mike_c;practically free! 433906;1388524446;the20year1;or you could use coinbr 433907;1388525790;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.11214763 BTC [-] 433908;1388526766;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35900 @ 0.00091225 = 32.7498 BTC [-] {2} 433909;1388527193;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [7C] 33 @ 0.0037197 = 0.1228 BTC [-] {4} 433910;1388527463;nubbins`;benkay: i have a vape that can burn oils, a bit cumbersome tho 433911;1388527485;nubbins`;more suited towards plant 433912;1388527712;benkay;'can' ain't 'optimized for' 433913;1388528047;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 90 @ 0.00287005 = 0.2583 BTC [-] {6} 433914;1388528352;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11550 @ 0.00091534 = 10.5722 BTC [+] 433915;1388528901;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.000916 = 8.3356 BTC [+] 433916;1388529713;mod6;http://www.scribd.com/doc/194899209/Nsa-Ant-Catalog 433917;1388529713;ozbot;Nsa Ant Catalog 433918;1388530422;dignork;mod6, There was a chinese POC code floating around few years ago, that was launched of BIOS EPROM of ethernet card 433919;1388530426;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 174 @ 0.00298 = 0.5185 BTC [+] 433920;1388530487;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2750 @ 0.00009898 = 0.2722 BTC [+] 433921;1388530975;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 2500 @ 0.00044999 = 1.125 BTC [+] {2} 433922;1388531037;kakobrekla;happy new year asses 433923;1388531041;kakobrekla;er i mean assets. 433924;1388531341;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC 433925;1388531402;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 335 @ 0.00298 = 0.9983 BTC [+] 433926;1388531524;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 2100 @ 0.00047402 = 0.9954 BTC [+] {7} 433927;1388531596;mike_c;happy new year! (to GMT+01) 433928;1388531646;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 212 @ 0.0023498 = 0.4982 BTC [+] 433929;1388532195;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.30999958 BTC [+] 433930;1388533293;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 232 @ 0.001 = 0.232 BTC 433931;1388533305;Duffer1;http://i.imgur.com/psu515W.gif 433932;1388534086;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 385 @ 0.00255077 = 0.982 BTC [+] {6}