336972;1380585941;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 0.113 BTC [+] 336973;1380586246;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.525 = 1.05 BTC [+] 336974;1380586490;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.19 = 4.76 BTC [+] 336975;1380587222;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3750 @ 0.00089717 = 3.3644 BTC [+] {2} 336976;1380587649;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.19 BTC [+] 336977;1380587710;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.19 = 2.38 BTC [+] 336978;1380587771;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.1845 = 2.369 BTC [-] {2} 336979;1380587832;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 19 @ 1.18252631 = 22.468 BTC [-] {2} 336980;1380587893;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.18 = 5.9 BTC [-] 336981;1380588198;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 24990 @ 0.00025374 = 6.341 BTC [-] {9} 336982;1380588452;dub;I liek that murican govt is shuttign down because boner 336983;1380588769;jborkl;Isn't the first time a boner messed up stuff in washington 336984;1380588916;jborkl;I just found out the us govt is giving free cellphones and plans to all poor people 336985;1380588940;jborkl;250 minutes and 250 texts a month 336986;1380588957;jborkl;Wtf :/ 336987;1380589110;kakobrekla;for real? 336988;1380589162;jborkl;Yes 336989;1380589179;jborkl;I looked it up because I didn't believe it 336990;1380589228;pankkake;http://youtu.be/tpAOwJvTOio 336991;1380589228;ozbot;Original Obamaphone Lady: Obama Voter Says Vote for Obama because he gives a free Phone - YouTube 336992;1380589263;jborkl;I need to get po so I get free shit 336993;1380589306;jborkl;Fucking Obama, so retarded 336994;1380589601;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.141 BTC [-] 336995;1380589845;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 1.142 = 6.852 BTC [+] 336996;1380590089;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 0.11999999 = 0.24 BTC [+] 336997;1380590150;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 0.1101 BTC [-] 336998;1380590455;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 0.1199 BTC [+] 336999;1380590963;dub;ring ring ring ring ring ring ring obamafone 337000;1380591067;dub;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5C6X9vOEkU 337001;1380591068;ozbot;Banana Phone - YouTube 337002;1380591187;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 840 @ 0.00026 = 0.2184 BTC [-] 337003;1380592041;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 0.11499999 = 0.23 BTC [-] 337004;1380592102;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1114 @ 0.00025 = 0.2785 BTC [-] 337005;1380593566;assbot;[BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 1783 @ 0.00131965 = 2.3529 BTC [-] {2} 337006;1380593749;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.525 = 2.625 BTC [+] 337007;1380593810;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 1.34999999 BTC [+] 337008;1380593871;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1055 @ 0.0012 = 1.266 BTC [+] {3} 337009;1380594054;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.49011 = 1.9604 BTC [-] {3} 337010;1380594115;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1600 @ 0.0012 = 1.92 BTC [+] {4} 337011;1380597531;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 1.34999999 BTC [+] 337012;1380597714;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 59 @ 0.01348993 = 0.7959 BTC [+] {2} 337013;1380598629;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 6000 @ 0.00496849 = 29.8109 BTC [-] {6} 337014;1380598934;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 0.1175 = 0.47 BTC [+] {2} 337015;1380598995;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 0.124 BTC [+] 337016;1380599056;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 15365 @ 0.00024003 = 3.6881 BTC [-] {4} 337017;1380599056;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 117 @ 0.01249237 = 1.4616 BTC [-] {8} 337018;1380599117;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 385 @ 0.01214842 = 4.6771 BTC [-] {11} 337019;1380599178;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 3300 @ 0.00023045 = 0.7605 BTC [-] {2} 337020;1380599239;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 10715 @ 0.00022548 = 2.416 BTC [-] {4} 337021;1380599300;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 1.2388 = 6.194 BTC [-] {3} 337022;1380599788;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 700 @ 0.0002201 = 0.1541 BTC [-] 337023;1380599849;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 40130 @ 0.00020827 = 8.3579 BTC [-] {13} 337024;1380599871;mircea_popescu;amazing proxy! 337025;1380599871;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 337026;1380600026;mircea_popescu;$avg 337027;1380600027;mpexbot;mircea_popescu: 132.76 337028;1380600337;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 6000 @ 0.00020301 = 1.2181 BTC [-] {2} 337029;1380600488;thestringpuller;mircea_popescu: you need ot review the best movie ever: Clueless 337030;1380600510;thestringpuller;http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/clueless/ - certified fressssssh 337031;1380600520;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 10001 @ 0.0002031 = 2.0312 BTC [+] {2} 337032;1380600547;mircea_popescu;the one with alicia silverstone ? 337033;1380600554;thestringpuller;yessir! 337034;1380600558;mircea_popescu;yeah. unremarkable. 337035;1380600582;thestringpuller;only becuase you hate Jane Austen :P 337036;1380600586;thestringpuller;Why you a hater?!? 337037;1380600720;mircea_popescu;no, because it's hardly remarkable. yet another teenage love in the burgeois tradition movie. who cares ? 337038;1380600764;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.012105 = 0.2421 BTC [-] {3} 337039;1380601069;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 1.36999998 = 4.11 BTC [+] {2} 337040;1380601191;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 680 @ 0.00294 = 1.9992 BTC [+] 337041;1380601374;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 750 @ 0.00028001 = 0.21 BTC [-] 337042;1380601496;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 10000 @ 0.0002016 = 2.016 BTC [-] {3} 337043;1380602097;Diablo-D3;http://isthegovernmentshutdown.com/ 337044;1380602098;ozbot;Is the US government shut down? 337045;1380602240;dub;lol 337046;1380602320;Graet;lol 337047;1380602353;mod6;haha 337048;1380602691;dub;http://aaanditsgone.com/ 337049;1380602692;ozbot;USA.gov: The U.S. Government's Official Web Portal 337050;1380603021;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1000 @ 0.0002101 = 0.2101 BTC [+] {2} 337051;1380603082;assbot;[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.165 BTC [-] 337052;1380603448;assbot;[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 100 @ 0.00110372 = 0.1104 BTC [+] {2} 337053;1380603509;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 500 @ 0.00028 = 0.14 BTC [-] 337054;1380603638;mod6;US-Gov:~$ shutdown -h now 337055;1380603692;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 44 @ 0.01213409 = 0.5339 BTC [+] {2} 337056;1380603753;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 1.20158001 = 24.0316 BTC [-] {8} 337057;1380604058;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2 BTC [+] 337058;1380604546;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 57 @ 0.00794736 = 0.453 BTC [+] {2} 337059;1380604912;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.2045 = 4.818 BTC [+] {2} 337060;1380604973;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 42 @ 0.008 = 0.336 BTC [+] 337061;1380605278;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.21925 = 4.877 BTC [+] {3} 337062;1380606315;assbot;[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 100 @ 0.04768599 = 4.7686 BTC [-] {4} 337063;1380607607;dub;explained: Most government workers will be furloughed.a procedure that involves halting their pay, sending them home, and then castrating them with a gelding knife in front of their spouses 337064;1380607627;dub;thank you onion news 337065;1380608276;KRS1;Hope that reaches congress. 337066;1380608919;mircea_popescu;would be cool if anyone who works for the govt would be castrated. 337067;1380608929;mircea_popescu;one step closer to spqr. 337068;1380609605;VanCleef;oh bummer 337069;1380610585;assbot;[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 20 @ 0.043565 = 0.8713 BTC [-] {2} 337070;1380611040;mircea_popescu;cads http://trilema.com/2013/squares-do-morals-a-porno/ you're now famous :D 337071;1380611846;VanCleef;so china getting ready to reopen us government again 337072;1380611908;mircea_popescu;http://bitbet.us/bet/541/the-current-us-goverment-shutdown-is-permanent/ 337073;1380611910;ozbot;BitBet - The current US goverment shutdown is permanent 337074;1380611927;assbot;[BTCTC] [BFMINES] 584 @ 0.00060036 = 0.3506 BTC [+] {3} 337075;1380612057;VanCleef;haha permanent 337076;1380612110;assbot;[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 30 @ 0.045 = 1.35 BTC [+] 337077;1380612124;VanCleef;more fifa soccer ones please 337078;1380612476;assbot;[BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 100 @ 0.00120262 = 0.1203 BTC [-] {3} 337079;1380613452;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00089743 = 1.6154 BTC [+] {2} 337080;1380613574;assbot;[BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 300 @ 0.00131233 = 0.3937 BTC [+] {2} 337081;1380615099;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 486 @ 0.0002492 = 0.1211 BTC [+] {5} 337082;1380615648;assbot;[BTCTC] [RSM] 196 @ 0.0041 = 0.8036 BTC [+] 337083;1380615709;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 49 @ 0.005389 = 0.2641 BTC [+] {2} 337084;1380615831;assbot;[BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 172 @ 0.001202 = 0.2067 BTC [-] 337085;1380616319;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.49011 = 0.9802 BTC [-] 337086;1380616442;Anduckk;knc bet resolved? 337087;1380616484;jurov;not yet 337088;1380616634;Anduckk;why?! 337089;1380616658;Anduckk;isn't it clear? 337090;1380616729;jurov;it isn't important. let's compare wealth redistribution to certain kind of maternity ward 337091;1380616733;jurov;instead 337092;1380616758;Anduckk;how about not 337093;1380616796;Anduckk;is the bet unclea3 or what? 337094;1380616807;assbot;[BTCTC] [B] [CIPHERMINE.B1] 48 @ 0.00800833 = 0.3844 BTC [+] {2} 337095;1380616813;jurov;but rly, waiting day or two cannot hurt 337096;1380616838;Anduckk;well other "1st Oct" bets have resolved 337097;1380616850;Anduckk;all but this KNC bet 337098;1380616898;jurov;i don't follow it closely..afaik the other bets don't have units happily hashing 337099;1380616933;jurov;just unclear to me if these units are already under full control of their owners or still in knc 337100;1380616974;Anduckk;well theres been no messages frm customers, so... 337101;1380617069;jurov;;;bc,stats 337102;1380617072;gribble;Current Blocks: 261061 | Current Difficulty: 1.4881919980509263E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 262079 | Next Difficulty In: 1018 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 12 hours, 3 minutes, and 53 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 178646097.108 | Estimated Percent Change: 20.04237 337103;1380617539;assbot;[BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 2870 @ 0.00133697 = 3.8371 BTC [+] {3} 337104;1380617783;assbot;[BTCTC] [B] [CIPHERMINE.B1] 448 @ 0.00809955 = 3.6286 BTC [+] {2} 337105;1380618149;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.221 BTC [+] 337106;1380618210;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 1.111 BTC [-] 337107;1380618576;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.191 = 3.573 BTC [-] {2} 337108;1380618637;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 71 @ 0.0120014 = 0.8521 BTC [-] {2} 337109;1380618638;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 1.18866666 = 7.132 BTC [-] {2} 337110;1380618638;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 4638 @ 0.0002499 = 1.159 BTC [+] 337111;1380618638;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 30 @ 1.111 = 33.33 BTC [-] 337112;1380619613;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.181 BTC [-] 337113;1380619674;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 1.29999998 BTC [+] 337114;1380619796;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 12 @ 1.18008332 = 14.161 BTC [-] {4} 337115;1380620223;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.18 BTC [-] 337116;1380620406;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.17 BTC [-] 337117;1380620589;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1211 @ 0.00294 = 3.5603 BTC [+] 337118;1380621687;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 3187 @ 0.00025 = 0.7968 BTC [+] 337119;1380621931;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1000 @ 0.0002326 = 0.2326 BTC [-] 337120;1380622053;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 614 @ 0.0002326 = 0.1428 BTC [-] 337121;1380622236;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 8000 @ 0.00030803 = 2.4642 BTC [+] {6} 337122;1380622237;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 15 @ 0.12979996 = 1.947 BTC [+] {3} 337123;1380622297;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.17 = 4.68 BTC [-] 337124;1380622358;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1600 @ 0.00025 = 0.4 BTC [+] {2} 337125;1380622603;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1750 @ 0.00023257 = 0.407 BTC [-] {3} 337126;1380622663;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1251 @ 0.00022576 = 0.2824 BTC [-] {2} 337127;1380623987;dub;http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_world_/2013/09/30/potential_government_shutdown_how_would_the_u_s_media_report_on_it_if_it.html 337128;1380623987;ozbot;Potential government shutdown: How would the U.S. media report on it if it were happening to another 337129;1380624249;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 45 @ 1.15031108 = 51.764 BTC [-] {15} 337130;1380624310;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 6800 @ 0.000222 = 1.5096 BTC [-] {2} 337131;1380624554;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.135 = 3.405 BTC [-] {2} 337132;1380624554;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1700 @ 0.000222 = 0.3774 BTC [-] {2} 337133;1380625584;jurov;http://codinginmysleep.com/bitsyncom-asic-miners-anounced-will-be-auctioned-on-tradehill/ 337134;1380625586;ozbot;BitSyncom ASIC Miners Anounced: Will be Auctioned on Tradehill - Coding In My Sleep - A Bitcoin Blog 337135;1380625596;jurov;fail to fail-th power 337136;1380625656;jurov;http://dcm6srpdb0rbc.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/boxes.jpg lmao 337137;1380626072;Graet;oh well that just puts me off buying more of thier hardware even more 337138;1380627000;mircea_popescu; fail to fail-th power << word. 337139;1380627013;mircea_popescu;Graet did you buy anythin recently ? 337140;1380627072;mircea_popescu; it isn't important. let's compare wealth redistribution to certain kind of maternity ward << your trolling is like s ocute. 337141;1380627263;Graet;https://hashfast.com/shop/babyjet/ backorder one 337142;1380627795;jurov;trolling or not..i just found the simile completely appalling 337143;1380627858;jurov;even children *are* being redistributed, for reasons such as neglect 337144;1380627907;mircea_popescu;that's for cause. 337145;1380628214;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 20000 @ 0.00025312 = 5.0624 BTC [+] {5} 337146;1380628264;Doctor_Andonuts;Has TAT transfered anyone's NEOBEE shares? Or is he still out of town? Not sure how long this proccess should take and I don't want to bug him if he hasn't even started. 337147;1380628336;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 3500 @ 0.00025926 = 0.9074 BTC [+] {4} 337148;1380628436;mircea_popescu;i haven't seen him these days, but! 337149;1380628456;mircea_popescu;people legitimately have to travel occasionally, give it a few days 337150;1380628486;Anduckk;bitbet? 337151;1380628488;mircea_popescu;jurov you see the difference between moving children for cause (mother died, for instance) and for purpose. do you ? 337152;1380628494;mircea_popescu;Anduckk hm ? 337153;1380628512;Doctor_Andonuts;It's been 8 days, that's wwhy I asked. =) 337154;1380628547;Doctor_Andonuts;Since he sent instructions and I replied the same day that is. 337155;1380628559;Anduckk;is the knc bet unclear or why stll not solved? 337156;1380628667;mircea_popescu;Anduckk probably because the mods partied hard on the bribe you sent and nobody's awake yet. 337157;1380628678;mircea_popescu;Doctor_Andonuts oh. 337158;1380628686;mircea_popescu;;;seen thickasthieves 337159;1380628686;gribble;thickasthieves was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 days, 20 hours, 21 minutes, and 8 seconds ago: Me, do drugs? Never. 337160;1380628697;mircea_popescu;;;seen tatinvestment 337161;1380628697;gribble;I have not seen tatinvestment. 337162;1380628698;mircea_popescu;;;seen tatinvestments 337163;1380628699;gribble;tatinvestments was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 14 weeks, 5 days, 8 hours, 14 minutes, and 40 seconds ago: * TATInvestments tries on a new hat. 337164;1380628702;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.196 BTC [+] 337165;1380628736;mircea_popescu;well now when he shows up ima be all dude! people's lookin fo yo cuz of your debts! 337166;1380628824;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69348300 BTC to 1`386`966 shares, 50 satoshi per share 337167;1380628854;jurov;mircea_popescu in many cases the difference is not clear - will the child hurt less when it stays with abusive mother or when it goes away? 337168;1380628856;thestringpuller;is thickasthieves the new scammor 337169;1380628867;jurov;you seem as if that can be decided with mathemtical clarity 337170;1380628877;mircea_popescu;jurov the difference is very clear : if it is for cause, then it's one thing. if it's for a purpose then it's moral hazard. 337171;1380628897;Doctor_Andonuts;;;seen TAT_Investments 337172;1380628898;gribble;TAT_Investments was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 14 hours, 24 minutes, and 16 seconds ago: i'm in cyprus atm 337173;1380628946;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.20833333 = 3.625 BTC [+] {2} 337174;1380628969;mircea_popescu;and if the distinction is meaningless to you : a cause is in the past. a purpose is in the future. 337175;1380628975;mircea_popescu;entirely different beasts. 337176;1380629007;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [BTC-GROWTH] 10 @ 0.084 = 0.84 BTC [+] 337177;1380629068;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [BTC-GROWTH] 240 @ 0.084 = 20.16 BTC [+] 337178;1380629129;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [BTC-GROWTH] 140 @ 0.08562857 = 11.988 BTC [+] {2} 337179;1380629170;PsychoticBoy;Tat a scammer? 337180;1380629192;PsychoticBoy;I thought so :D 337181;1380629243;PsychoticBoy;Most are scared to reveal their true identity (like tat) 337182;1380629309;PsychoticBoy;Because looking behind you every corner is no life, being buttraped isnt either TAT 337183;1380629322;PsychoticBoy;:P 337184;1380629373;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.136 = 2.272 BTC [-] {2} 337185;1380629387;jurov;mircea_popescu: If you limit yourself squarely to cause then all you can is react. 337186;1380629449;mircea_popescu;indeed. the problem of divine agency (how god managed to create the world w/o becoming the devil) is the biggest problem scholastics failed to solve. 337187;1380629456;mircea_popescu;in general, initiative is the work of the devil. 337188;1380629587;jurov;? 337189;1380629636;mircea_popescu;they came up with this constructed agency which was somehow magically devoid of will, intentionality or choice. obviously a lame duck (even to them), but otherwise the problem is irresolvable. 337190;1380629678;assbot;[BTCTC] [BFMINES] 442 @ 0.00055678 = 0.2461 BTC [-] {2} 337191;1380629698;mircea_popescu;notably the governments of today attempt exactly the same magic. "science" is now supposed to be the will-less, intention-less, choice-less engine that allows government agency without sin. at least in theory. 337192;1380629706;mircea_popescu;isn't particularly convincing to anyone, but anyway. 337193;1380629983;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1721 @ 0.00024 = 0.413 BTC [-] 337194;1380630012;mircea_popescu;irrespective of that, the best and most general formulation of the limits placed on governments (all, no exceptions) by the social contract is that they may only act for cause (ie, react). agency is strictly reserved to the individual, and in that the individual is superior to the state, ie, more of a person. 337195;1380630066;jurov;oh, good luck with that 337196;1380630076;mircea_popescu;hey. morals are what they are. 337197;1380630319;mircea_popescu;dub greatg link lol 337198;1380630371;mircea_popescu;also in the news, 337199;1380630372;mircea_popescu;http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-24281192 337200;1380630372;ozbot;BBC News - 'TomTato' tomato and potato plant unveiled in UK 337201;1380630837;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 45 @ 1.13417777 = 51.038 BTC [-] {5} 337202;1380630959;assbot;[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.165 BTC [-] 337203;1380632179;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.133 = 2.266 BTC [-] 337204;1380632789;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.133 = 4.532 BTC [-] 337205;1380633155;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.183 = 8.281 BTC [+] {3} 337206;1380633704;assbot;[BTCTC] [FIMB] 98 @ 0.0075 = 0.735 BTC [-] 337207;1380633826;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 20 @ 0.00505 = 0.101 BTC [-] 337208;1380633826;assbot;[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 100 @ 0.00114474 = 0.1145 BTC [+] {4} 337209;1380633887;assbot;[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.0435 = 0.435 BTC [-] {2} 337210;1380633887;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.133 = 5.665 BTC [-] {3} 337211;1380633949;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.132 BTC [-] 337212;1380633949;assbot;[BTCTC] [RSM] 90 @ 0.0033 = 0.297 BTC [-] 337213;1380634009;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 12 @ 1.12166666 = 13.46 BTC [-] {5} 337214;1380634070;assbot;[BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 857 @ 0.00134561 = 1.1532 BTC [+] {4} 337215;1380634375;assbot;[BTCTC] [B] [CIPHERMINE.B1] 148 @ 0.008 = 1.184 BTC [-] 337216;1380634375;assbot;[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 29 @ 0.012 = 0.348 BTC [-] {3} 337217;1380634497;assbot;[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 18 @ 0.01 = 0.18 BTC [-] 337218;1380634558;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 10 @ 0.01276999 = 0.1277 BTC [-] 337219;1380634802;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 38 @ 0.01182639 = 0.4494 BTC [-] {5} 337220;1380635229;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 72 @ 1.10088888 = 79.264 BTC [-] {7} 337221;1380635290;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1000 @ 0.00120074 = 1.2007 BTC [+] {2} 337222;1380635509;pankkake;;;bc,stats 337223;1380635512;gribble;Current Blocks: 261110 | Current Difficulty: 1.4881919980509263E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 262079 | Next Difficulty In: 969 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 4 days, 22 hours, 39 minutes, and 11 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 180780476.079 | Estimated Percent Change: 21.47658 337224;1380635836;VanCleef;asicminer dying in the asshole 337225;1380635907;mircea_popescu;awww 337226;1380635983;VanCleef;<+AssetBot> [G.ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.81110000 = 1.62220000 [-] 337227;1380636036;pankkake;:o 337228;1380636050;pankkake;well it's fractional reserve shares, does it count? 337229;1380636072;pankkake;anyway, http://bitbet.us/bet/534/price-of-asicminer-2-btc-per-share/?ref=1Eck6cgGzEb9N42CFhcsCBQhZQStoJbHRK 337230;1380636122;mircea_popescu;heh 337231;1380636168;VanCleef;thats a big no 337232;1380636370;pankkake;there's like a block every minute atm 337233;1380636693;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.1 = 2.2 BTC [-] 337234;1380636815;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.159 = 3.477 BTC [+] 337235;1380637181;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1 BTC [-] 337236;1380637181;assbot;[BTCTC] [KENILWORTH] 500 @ 0.0013198 = 0.6599 BTC [-] {2} 337237;1380637303;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.165 BTC [+] 337238;1380637743;pankkake;http://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/10/01/0346246/sinkhole-sucks-brains-from-wasteful-bitcoin-mining-botnet 337239;1380637743;ozbot;Sinkhole Sucks Brains From Wasteful Bitcoin Mining Botnet - Slashdot 337240;1380637990;mircea_popescu;ya im sure they made a ton cpu mining. 337241;1380639072;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 500 @ 0.0002499 = 0.125 BTC [+] 337242;1380639133;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.12 BTC [-] 337243;1380639438;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 1.25 BTC [-] 337244;1380640353;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1820 @ 0.0002302 = 0.419 BTC [-] 337245;1380640414;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 30 @ 1.11266665 = 33.38 BTC [-] {4} 337246;1380640586;jurov;http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/09/gta-vs-stock-trading-platform.html 337247;1380640780;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 3784 @ 0.0002399 = 0.9078 BTC [+] 337248;1380640963;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 0.13 BTC [+] 337249;1380641329;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.1 = 4.4 BTC [-] 337250;1380641329;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 24662 @ 0.00025888 = 6.3845 BTC [+] {6} 337251;1380641496;jurov;;;bc,convert eur 337252;1380641496;gribble;1 BTC = 140.95823 U.S. dollars = 104.243625 Euros 337253;1380641608;Anduck;hmmm 337254;1380641615;Anduck;still the bitbet of KNC isn't solved??? 337255;1380641639;Anduck;oh now it is 337256;1380641680;Anduck;i think it got solved immeditely after my "hmmm" =P 337257;1380641712;kakobrekla;Resolved: 337258;1380641712;kakobrekla;15 hours 34 minutes ago 337259;1380641773;Anduck;yeah 337260;1380641783;Anduck;but well i don't see my winning sent to my wallet yet 337261;1380641786;Anduck;not even unconfirmed 337262;1380641798;dexX7;it takes some time 337263;1380641800;Anduck;and it was pending resolution 5mins ago so.......... 337264;1380641816;dexX7;the bet resolution is not necessarily bound to payout 337265;1380641825;dexX7;afaik that's a seperate process 337266;1380641939;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2000 @ 0.00024 = 0.48 BTC [-] 337267;1380642281;jurov;6.53btc yay 337268;1380642289;kakobrekla;nah, winners payouts have been deprecated 337269;1380642395;jurov;why? ain't no filthy immoral redistribution? 337270;1380642425;kakobrekla;its better roi if we dont pay at all 337271;1380642520;jurov;fuck, should have placed a bet "bitbet stops paying out" .. oh wait 337272;1380642525;Graet;lol 337273;1380642543;kakobrekla;hehe 337274;1380642599;mircea_popescu;lol 337275;1380642667;mircea_popescu;o jurov was it your bet ? 337276;1380642702;mircea_popescu;26-09-13 18:35No2231.0000000012KYr0.99938408 1KSJa 337277;1380642703;mircea_popescu;cute lol. 337278;1380642740;jurov;yes mine 337279;1380642776;mircea_popescu;wd. 337280;1380642976;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.091 BTC [-] 337281;1380643037;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 28 @ 1.09 = 30.52 BTC [-] 337282;1380643159;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.0902 = 5.451 BTC [+] {2} 337283;1380643464;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 72861 @ 0.00023217 = 16.9161 BTC [-] {2} 337284;1380643588;jcpham;when does btctco close 337285;1380643598;jcpham;and why are people still buying labcoin 337286;1380643690;lewicki;that's a ~100-200btc loss 337287;1380643986;mircea_popescu;"loss" 337288;1380643992;mircea_popescu;unrealised gains aren't losses. 337289;1380644361;jurov;https://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/q71/1378064_10101330823086797_428225181_n.jpg 337290;1380644365;pankkake;wow that knc bet is going to butthurt people to death 337291;1380644372;jurov;aka nice to have russian friends on fb 337292;1380644419;pankkake;russians use vk 337293;1380644440;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 10240 @ 0.00023318 = 2.3878 BTC [+] {2} 337294;1380644501;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 338 @ 0.00089705 = 0.3032 BTC [-] 337295;1380644501;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.091 BTC [+] 337296;1380644501;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 1.28999999 BTC [+] 337297;1380644530;kakobrekla;pankkake any threads on the forum about it yet 337298;1380644562;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.09 = 5.45 BTC [-] 337299;1380644639;mircea_popescu;pankkake why ? 337300;1380644745;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.10075 = 4.403 BTC [+] {2} 337301;1380644806;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.1 = 2.2 BTC [-] 337302;1380644857;pankkake;the "why" is obvious, they'll argue things unrelated to the bet 337303;1380644877;pankkake;I hope you're sure no one got stuff shipped on the 30th though 337304;1380644928;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 19 @ 0.00537368 = 0.1021 BTC [+] {3} 337305;1380644928;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1600 @ 0.0002324 = 0.3718 BTC [-] {2} 337306;1380644929;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.1 = 5.5 BTC [-] 337307;1380644963;mircea_popescu;5. 337308;1380644989;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1 BTC [-] 337309;1380644989;assbot;[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.04273 = 0.4273 BTC [-] {2} 337310;1380645050;jurov;they would ludly announce shipping if they did. now if they said "we actually shipped on thursday" it would be very suspicious 337311;1380645054;jurov;*loudly 337312;1380645062;mircea_popescu;it'd be kinda bflish 337313;1380645088;pankkake;all I'm saying is that the resolution is a little bit too quick 337314;1380645162;jurov;hahaha...did you read a log? there was a complaint why it takes so long this very morning 337315;1380645190;pankkake;doesn't make it right 337316;1380645350;mircea_popescu;i don't see it. zero reports a day after cutoff. by now it's too late. 337317;1380645371;pankkake;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=170332.msg3277088#msg3277088 so, shipping a day late (if they ship) 337318;1380645373;ozbot;Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com 337319;1380645416;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1 BTC [-] 337320;1380645477;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.1 = 3.3 BTC [-] 337321;1380645496;mircea_popescu;so earliest delivery friday. 337322;1380645549;pankkake;but it's shipping date that counts, not delivery date, right? 337323;1380645567;pankkake;you can't bet on the postal system being efficient 337324;1380645716;mircea_popescu;that'd be knc's problem. 337325;1380645721;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.1 = 4.4 BTC [-] 337326;1380645729;mircea_popescu;you can't hold bets for three months on the theory that who knows, maybe the post office is still delivering. 337327;1380645751;pankkake;of course not - but you hold it if they provide a postal tracking number 337328;1380645759;mircea_popescu;for all i care they can drive to their customers personally and make delivery. 337329;1380645772;mircea_popescu;you can, but unless the bet says so you won't. 337330;1380646016;pankkake;no local pickup is probably the most telling 337331;1380646575;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 0.125 = 0.25 BTC [-] 337332;1380646941;assbot;[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.0489 = 0.1467 BTC [+] 337333;1380647124;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 0.13 = 0.26 BTC [+] 337334;1380647434;Anduck;yay 337335;1380647440;Anduck;received bitbet payment 337336;1380647572;Anduck;pankkake 337337;1380647575;Anduck;did you bet on this one? 337338;1380647600;pankkake;no 337339;1380647734;assbot;[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 9 @ 0.175 = 1.575 BTC [+] 337340;1380647795;assbot;[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 4 @ 0.175 = 0.7 BTC [+] 337341;1380647917;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1400 @ 0.00089238 = 1.2493 BTC [-] 337342;1380648575;mircea_popescu;http://bitbet.us/bet/472/kncminer-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-october-1st/#c1512 337343;1380648578;mircea_popescu;loller 337344;1380648579;ozbot;BitBet - KnCMiner will deliver ASIC devices before October 1st 337345;1380648696;BigBitz;lol 337346;1380648728;TomServo;http://bitbet.us/bet/541/the-current-us-goverment-shutdown-is-permanent/ 337347;1380648729;ozbot;BitBet - The current US goverment shutdown is permanent 337348;1380648733;TomServo;Some odd wording there... 337349;1380648742;TomServo;>26 days == permanent? 337350;1380648829;mircea_popescu;TomServo i guess the reasoning is that if it stays shutdown that long it's never coming back. 337351;1380648873;BigBitz;TomServo from neowin? :o 337352;1380648893;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 55 @ 0.00290108 = 0.1596 BTC [-] {5} 337353;1380648902;TomServo;BigBitz: Negative. 337354;1380648906;BigBitz;np. 337355;1380648955;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 33 @ 0.01265846 = 0.4177 BTC [-] {2} 337356;1380648958;TomServo;mircea_popescu: I think the longest was 21 days. Still seems odd to me. 337357;1380649381;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1000 @ 0.000245 = 0.245 BTC [-] 337358;1380649556;mircea_popescu;$avg 337359;1380649557;mpexbot;mircea_popescu: 132.40 337360;1380649625;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 6419 @ 0.0002302 = 1.4777 BTC [-] 337361;1380649835;Rick__;mircea is here? 337362;1380649860;Rick__;need help 337363;1380649861;kakobrekla;ping mircea_popescu 337364;1380649877;mircea_popescu;heya 337365;1380649897;mircea_popescu;Rick__ sup ? 337366;1380649919;Rick__;I just sent 2 email to you 337367;1380649947;Rick__;i cant use mpex,it says unrecognized sigeniture 337368;1380649961;mircea_popescu;well yeah. you have to resend public key. 337369;1380649967;mircea_popescu;it says in the latest article on the topic too. 337370;1380649968;Rick__;what happened with my public key 337371;1380649975;Rick__;okay,you lost it? 337372;1380649989;mircea_popescu;im just checking them. 337373;1380650009;Rick__;okay,i will send it to you now,thank you 337374;1380650017;mircea_popescu;np. 337375;1380650194;Rick__;I forgot how to export just public key....... 337376;1380650273;Rick__;got it 337377;1380650333;mircea_popescu;see faq it has commands there. 337378;1380650421;Rick__;just sent it:) 337379;1380650434;rdponticelli;mircea_popescu: I'm in the same boat, but I've resend the key a couple of days ago 337380;1380650449;rdponticelli;Something's wrong? 337381;1380650470;mircea_popescu;have you checked since ? 337382;1380650484;rdponticelli;Yes 337383;1380650500;rdponticelli;Just checked 337384;1380650504;rdponticelli;Again 337385;1380650505;kakobrekla;WHAT THE FCK 337386;1380650506;kakobrekla;http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewgpg.php?nick=kakobrekla 337387;1380650507;ozbot;#bitcoin-otc gpg key data 337388;1380650508;kakobrekla;ops 337389;1380650512;kakobrekla;https://tradehill.com/auctions 337390;1380650513;kakobrekla;this 337391;1380650514;ozbot;Tradehill 337392;1380650535;mircea_popescu;rdponticelli pm me your email addy i'll check. 337393;1380650593;kakobrekla;"since we cant have exchange, lets sell asic, its basically same thing?" 337394;1380650601;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 6581 @ 0.00022578 = 1.4859 BTC [-] {7} 337395;1380650640;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla kenna, doing anything to scam a little more. who knows, maybe it works. 337396;1380650681;kakobrekla;also Yifu has a new nick on the forums 337397;1380650687;kakobrekla;he is now known as "YiFuck" 337398;1380650739;mircea_popescu;lol 337399;1380650756;mircea_popescu;anyway, it will be hard to outdo the walletbit fiasco they managed on the 2nd batch 337400;1380650770;jcpham;but tradehill auctions 337401;1380651076;pankkake;trade bfl preorders, avalon chips, what's next? 337402;1380651088;mircea_popescu;bitcoinica debt 337403;1380651090;mircea_popescu;mtgoxusd 337404;1380651250;kakobrekla;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=290799.msg3278841#msg3278841 337405;1380651251;kakobrekla;lol 337406;1380651252;ozbot;[ANN] KRAKEN.COM - Exchange Now Open with Live Trading USD, EUR, BTC, LTC 337407;1380651272;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.101 BTC [+] 337408;1380651272;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 1.2 BTC [-] 337409;1380651388;mircea_popescu;so kraken.com went nowhere or what ? 337410;1380651394;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1 BTC [-] 337411;1380651394;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 75 @ 0.00295 = 0.2213 BTC [+] 337412;1380651401;kakobrekla;>But 0,02 BTC total volume in 24 h... 337413;1380651455;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1119 @ 0.002901 = 3.2462 BTC [-] {2} 337414;1380651466;deadweasel;lol, 'if you want to help...' 337415;1380651516;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.1 = 5.5 BTC [-] {3} 337416;1380651524;mircea_popescu;weird. 337417;1380651577;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 81 @ 0.0029 = 0.2349 BTC [-] {2} 337418;1380651592;pankkake;well, are people able to wire fiat to them? 337419;1380651608;pankkake;bitcoin-central has no volume because no one can… yet 337420;1380651841;kakobrekla;any eta to that 337421;1380651858;imsaguy;Coming Soon 337422;1380651875;pankkake;their banking partner seems to be in care of the verification 337423;1380651884;pankkake;so… months? :| 337424;1380651892;pankkake;in charge* 337425;1380652008;qxzn;hey TAT_Investments can I transfer asicminer-pt shares on btct.co to havelock now or do I need to wait until after Thursday? 337426;1380652187;assbot;[BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 1 @ 0.66 BTC [+] 337427;1380652378;imsaguy;qxzn: 42 337428;1380652636;qxzn;imsaguy thanks :P 337429;1380652892;jcpham;coming soon is a myth 337430;1380652971;Rick__;it's okay now? 337431;1380653238;mircea_popescu;Rick__ you tell me ? 337432;1380653272;Rick__;okay let me try 337433;1380653422;Rick__;nope,it still Unrecognized signature 337434;1380653450;Rick__;it's Unrecognized signature 337435;1380653457;Rick__;still 337436;1380653528;mircea_popescu;uh. 337437;1380653552;Rick__;what's the problem?is there anything i can do? 337438;1380653555;mircea_popescu;well let 337439;1380653564;qxzn;hey TAT_Investments can I transfer asicminer-pt shares on btct.co to havelock now or do I need to wait until after Thursday? 337440;1380653569;mircea_popescu;'s debug this. you know how to use !mp ? 337441;1380653586;kakobrekla;hum i get that too mp 337442;1380653598;mircea_popescu;conspiraci. 337443;1380653609;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla make a pastebin thing so i can trace what's going on. 337444;1380653635;mircea_popescu;(for instance... are you using the new mpex key ?) 337445;1380653646;kakobrekla;the one from faq 337446;1380653649;Rick__;okay,so basicly i can just wait? 337447;1380653658;kakobrekla;!mp http://dpaste.com/1402563/ 337448;1380653658;assbot;Processing. 337449;1380653659;assbot;Response: error 337450;1380653659;mircea_popescu;Rick__ wait one second here we're working on it. 337451;1380653666;kakobrekla;hrm 337452;1380653667;mircea_popescu;that's the old key. 337453;1380653671;Rick__;I have to hit the sack now 337454;1380653676;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/mpex-status-report/ 337455;1380653676;ozbot;MPEx - Status Report pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 337456;1380653687;mircea_popescu;Rick__ so see you tomorro. 337457;1380653691;Rick__;yeah 337458;1380653695;mircea_popescu;i know for a fact people have been able to use it, so 337459;1380653697;Rick__;thank you 337460;1380653703;kakobrekla;faq has old key? 337461;1380653712;mircea_popescu;checking. 337462;1380653726;mircea_popescu;heh i guess it does. one minute. 337463;1380653735;kakobrekla;thats the problem then 337464;1380653773;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 124 @ 0.01122345 = 1.3917 BTC [-] {8} 337465;1380653827;kakobrekla;!mp http://dpaste.com/1402574/ 337466;1380653827;assbot;Processing. 337467;1380653829;assbot;Response: error 337468;1380653833;kakobrekla;gtfo 337469;1380653850;mircea_popescu;what's response error anyway, it should give it as a paste neh ? 337470;1380653877;kakobrekla;seems like it didnt reach mpex at all 337471;1380653895;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 585 @ 0.00537588 = 3.1449 BTC [+] {2} 337472;1380653956;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 115 @ 0.005386 = 0.6194 BTC [+] 337473;1380654017;assbot;[BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 700 @ 0.00139944 = 0.9796 BTC [+] {2} 337474;1380654075;lewicki;;;help 337475;1380654076;gribble;The bot responds when you start a line with the ! character. A good starting point for exploring the bot is the !facts command. You can also visit the bot's website for a list of help topics and documentation: http://gribble.sourceforge.net/ 337476;1380654084;lewicki;!facts 337477;1380654124;lewicki;!diff 337478;1380654200;kakobrekla;!mp http://dpaste.com/1402580/ 337479;1380654200;assbot;Processing. 337480;1380654202;assbot;Response: http://dpaste.com/1402581/plain/ 337481;1380654217;kakobrekla;good as new 337482;1380654218;lewicki;!dif 337483;1380654229;kakobrekla;;;bc,stats 337484;1380654231;kakobrekla;.d 337485;1380654231;ozbot;148819199.80509 | Next Diff in 933 blocks | Estimated Change: 21.3538% in 5d 1h 59m 30s 337486;1380654232;gribble;Current Blocks: 261146 | Current Difficulty: 1.4881919980509263E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 262079 | Next Difficulty In: 933 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 4 days, 17 hours, 5 minutes, and 27 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 180751453.222 | Estimated Percent Change: 21.45708 337487;1380654235;kakobrekla;mkay 337488;1380654239;lewicki;danke 337489;1380654243;kakobrekla;finke 337490;1380655691;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 90 @ 0.002979 = 0.2681 BTC [+] 337491;1380657058;thestringpuller;!last m s.mpoe 337492;1380657058;assbot;Last trade for S.MPOE on MPEX was at 0.00089238 BTC [-] 337493;1380657064;thestringpuller;what hack? 337494;1380657071;thestringpuller;>:) 337495;1380657197;FabianB_;almost where it was before the breach 337496;1380657399;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.01010003 = 0.404 BTC [-] {4} 337497;1380657705;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1200 @ 0.00089082 = 1.069 BTC [-] 337498;1380657766;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 100 @ 1.04677997 = 104.678 BTC [-] {21} 337499;1380657826;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.102 BTC [+] 337500;1380657948;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1198 @ 0.0002625 = 0.3145 BTC [+] 337501;1380658024;kakobrekla;http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-dkq8qMgjI30/TeSRbxWnvVI/AAAAAAAABm0/5097Iu4e6DY/s1600/high-vis.jpg 337502;1380658070;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 1.10000066 = 3.3 BTC [-] {2} 337503;1380658192;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.006 = 5.03 BTC [-] 337504;1380659290;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00298896 = 0.2989 BTC [+] 337505;1380659351;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00298896 = 0.2989 BTC [+] 337506;1380659473;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00298896 = 0.2989 BTC [+] 337507;1380659595;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 95 @ 0.00298896 = 0.284 BTC [+] 337508;1380660443;Namworld;Spain knows how to be pimpin' its prostitutes. 337509;1380660449;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 50 @ 1.00273997 = 50.137 BTC [-] {14} 337510;1380660450;Namworld;I wonder what that makes those who help schoolchildren go across the street with a stop sign and yellow vest... 337511;1380660459;Namworld;Do they have that in Spain? 337512;1380660460;kakobrekla;the trick is in the right bottom corner 337513;1380660488;kakobrekla;i always suspected she was one of them 337514;1380660632;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 35 @ 0.13007999 = 4.5528 BTC [+] {3} 337515;1380660693;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 33 @ 0.13860059 = 4.5738 BTC [+] {4} 337516;1380660696;Namworld;Hahaha 337517;1380660755;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 10 @ 0.1449 = 1.449 BTC [+] 337518;1380661120;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 321 @ 0.00298 = 0.9566 BTC [-] {2} 337519;1380661303;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 10 @ 0.011 = 0.11 BTC [+] 337520;1380661304;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1000 @ 0.000234 = 0.234 BTC [-] 337521;1380661425;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 500 @ 0.000233 = 0.1165 BTC [-] 337522;1380661547;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 19 @ 1.005 = 19.095 BTC [+] 337523;1380661608;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1 = 5 BTC [-] 337524;1380661608;assbot;[BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 6 @ 0.636 = 3.816 BTC [-] 337525;1380661669;assbot;[BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 4 @ 0.60375 = 2.415 BTC [-] {2} 337526;1380661731;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 850 @ 0.00089082 = 0.7572 BTC [-] 337527;1380662340;assbot;[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 12 @ 0.0427 = 0.5124 BTC [-] 337528;1380662496;thestringpuller;;;seen mod6 337529;1380662497;gribble;mod6 was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 16 hours, 20 minutes, and 59 seconds ago: US-Gov:~$ shutdown -h now 337530;1380662507;thestringpuller;lolololololololololololololololol 337531;1380662528;thestringpuller;US-Gov:~$ sudo shutdown -r -t1000000 337532;1380662538;mod6;:] 337533;1380662544;DiabloD3;alternatively 337534;1380662553;DiabloD3;US-Gov:~# shutdown -r -t1000000 337535;1380662574;pankkake;root is for dictatorships, democracies use sudo 337536;1380662584;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.0029 = 0.58 BTC [-] 337537;1380662595;jurov;it's more like OOM killer 337538;1380662613;mod6;lol sudo 337539;1380662619;DiabloD3;pankkake: we have a democracy now? 337540;1380662664;jurov;Out of Memory: Killed process 337541;1380662695;jborkl;they left the password as root also 337542;1380662709;mod6;what is the -t flag? i don't think that actually exists. 337543;1380662721;DiabloD3;timer 337544;1380662747;kakobrekla;ghash.io now almost the size of btcguild and you cant even register there 337545;1380662767;mod6;weird, didn't see that in the linux shutdown(8) or freebsd shutdown(8) 337546;1380662803;mod6;and thestringpuller if you use -r, it'll reboot. if you use -h, it'll halt and never come back ;) 337547;1380662828;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 282 @ 0.00298896 = 0.8429 BTC [+] 337548;1380662875;mod6;we should only be so lucky 337549;1380662887;pankkake;DiabloD3: I didn't specify :) 337550;1380662889;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 165 @ 0.00298897 = 0.4932 BTC [+] 337551;1380662950;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 300 @ 0.00299997 = 0.9 BTC [+] 337552;1380662951;assbot;[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.093 = 0.465 BTC [-] 337553;1380663013;mod6;gah linux, 3 man pages of SHUTDOWN(8) that have no -t flag, then you find this one: http://unixhelp.ed.ac.uk/CGI/man-cgi?shutdown+8 337554;1380663015;pankkake;I think the -t is/was mandatory for shutdown. I remember using -t now 337555;1380663018;mod6;wonder what distro that's for. 337556;1380663061;DiabloD3;yeah I used to use -t now 337557;1380663072;assbot;[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.1001 BTC [+] 337558;1380663073;DiabloD3;but I never shut boxes off anymore 337559;1380663089;pankkake;I use "poweroff" 337560;1380663092;pankkake;same, except laptop 337561;1380663101;pankkake;I feel so empty without a computer on :| 337562;1380663126;pankkake;googling "shutdown now" only gives me stuff about the US gov. stupid 337563;1380663133;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.49001 BTC [-] 337564;1380663146;mod6;i've never even seen -t, only that on *bsd/linux you can either enter "now" or a future TIME as [yymmddhhss]: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=shutdown&sektion=8 337565;1380663151;mod6;*shrug* :} 337566;1380663161;DiabloD3;-t sec Tell init(8) to wait sec seconds between sending processes the 337567;1380663162;DiabloD3;warning and the kill signal, before changing to another run‐ 337568;1380663162;DiabloD3;level. 337569;1380663165;DiabloD3;thats from my man page 337570;1380663169;mod6;what distro? 337571;1380663174;DiabloD3;debian 337572;1380663177;mod6;ahh. 337573;1380663191;DiabloD3;-t used to be required , it isnt anymore 337574;1380663194;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 10173 @ 0.0002549 = 2.5931 BTC [+] {2} 337575;1380663300;mod6;i've been using slack since like ... mid-90s, always used `shutdown -h|-r now`. 337576;1380663316;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.99 BTC [-] 337577;1380663335;mod6;guess i haven't used slack since like quite a while tho. 337578;1380663339;jcpham;i use the power cord in the back 337579;1380663342;jcpham;just yank it out 337580;1380663344;mod6;that works too 337581;1380663349;mod6;*yoink* 337582;1380663350;jcpham;it so much faster 337583;1380663361;DiabloD3;lol 337584;1380663366;DiabloD3;fs corruption yay 337585;1380663373;jcpham;don't even need a console 337586;1380663394;pankkake;DiabloD3: use a better filesystem 337587;1380663397;mod6;i basically gave up all hope with linux after the 2.4 kernel 337588;1380663404;mod6;what a disaster that was 337589;1380663439;jcpham;what i really enjoy doing is remote support where i have to tell someone to pull the plug 337590;1380663445;jcpham;because the server is unresponsive 337591;1380663450;jcpham;those are the best 337592;1380663454;DiabloD3;pankkake: even if you use a journaling fs 337593;1380663468;DiabloD3;fully journaling, both data and metadata 337594;1380663481;DiabloD3;and have write caching off 337595;1380663484;DiabloD3;you can still lose data 337596;1380663499;assbot;[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 4 @ 0.17 = 0.68 BTC [-] 337597;1380663560;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.49 = 2.45 BTC [-] 337598;1380663561;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.0029 = 1.45 BTC [-] 337599;1380663593;jurov;or reboot 337600;1380663682;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 0.11090277 = 0.4436 BTC [-] {4} 337601;1380663683;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 1.0405 = 2.081 BTC [-] {2} 337602;1380663743;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 0.11000001 = 0.55 BTC [-] 337603;1380663744;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2000 @ 0.00023319 = 0.4664 BTC [-] {3} 337604;1380663744;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.99 BTC [-] 337605;1380663744;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 69 @ 0.01010007 = 0.6969 BTC [-] {2} 337606;1380663807;pankkake;it wasn't available at the time 337607;1380663813;pankkake;also, get off my lawn 337608;1380663926;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 508 @ 0.0029 = 1.4732 BTC [-] 337609;1380663987;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 116 @ 0.010101 = 1.1717 BTC [+] {2} 337610;1380664048;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 66 @ 0.01010077 = 0.6667 BTC [-] {2} 337611;1380664049;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 17 @ 0.11 = 1.87 BTC [-] 337612;1380664109;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 13 @ 1.01824306 = 13.2372 BTC [-] {7} 337613;1380664110;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 6 @ 0.11 = 0.66 BTC [-] 337614;1380664170;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 0.11 BTC [-] 337615;1380664171;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1000 @ 0.000249 = 0.249 BTC [+] 337616;1380664414;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.97 BTC [-] 337617;1380664475;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 41 @ 1.09612193 = 44.941 BTC [+] {6} 337618;1380664475;assbot;[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.0426 = 0.1278 BTC [-] 337619;1380664597;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 55 @ 0.01236561 = 0.6801 BTC [+] {4} 337620;1380664644;mod6;anyway, with 2.6 they had the O(1) scheduler then the CFS, so I guess that works a lot better now. 337621;1380664658;assbot;[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 4 @ 0.093 = 0.372 BTC [-] 337622;1380664841;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 58 @ 0.0087862 = 0.5096 BTC [-] {3} 337623;1380664842;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.158 BTC [+] 337624;1380665024;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.158 BTC [+] 337625;1380665268;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 1.0075 = 5.0375 BTC [-] 337626;1380665269;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.16 BTC [+] 337627;1380665390;assbot;[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 700 @ 0.000346 = 0.2422 BTC [+] 337628;1380665696;kakobrekla;http://www.break.com/video/the-single-greatest-lithuanian-water-commercial-of-all-time-2522174 337629;1380665697;ozbot;The Single Greatest Lithuanian Water Commercial Of All Time Video | Break.com 337630;1380665829;mod6;lol goat on a boat 337631;1380665830;kakobrekla;goat on a boat 337632;1380665830;DiabloD3;kakobrekla: oh christ 337633;1380665834;kakobrekla;yeah 337634;1380665850;kakobrekla;shhhs dont wake up luke DiabloD3 337635;1380665914;mod6;"giving a negitive fuck will destroy the universe" 337636;1380665922;mod6;haha 337637;1380665984;DiabloD3;kakobrekla: but its brawndo 337638;1380666055;DiabloD3;goat on a boat AND the greatest singer ever 337639;1380669172;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1007 @ 0.000235 = 0.2366 BTC [-] {2} 337640;1380669233;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1000 @ 0.0002335 = 0.2335 BTC [-] 337641;1380669294;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 5570 @ 0.0002321 = 1.2928 BTC [-] 337642;1380669477;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 10 @ 0.01079999 = 0.108 BTC [+] 337643;1380669904;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 10 @ 0.01075 = 0.1075 BTC [-] {2} 337644;1380670148;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1000 @ 0.000259 = 0.259 BTC [+] 337645;1380670575;assbot;[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 16 @ 0.01672 = 0.2675 BTC [+] 337646;1380670575;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 1.18 BTC [+] 337647;1380670941;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1500 @ 0.00025 = 0.375 BTC [-] 337648;1380671246;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1400 @ 0.000309 = 0.4326 BTC [-] 337649;1380671307;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.49 = 0.98 BTC [-] 337650;1380671429;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 20 @ 0.49 = 9.8 BTC [-] 337651;1380671440;pankkake;;;bc,stats 337652;1380671442;gribble;Current Blocks: 261174 | Current Difficulty: 1.4881919980509263E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 262079 | Next Difficulty In: 905 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 4 days, 18 hours, 55 minutes, and 14 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 179328205.272 | Estimated Percent Change: 20.50072 337653;1380671490;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.49 = 1.47 BTC [-] 337654;1380672344;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 90 @ 0.01024998 = 0.9225 BTC [-] {9} 337655;1380672600;kakobrekla;i think kraken killer is commin 337656;1380672610;kakobrekla;inside info winkwink 337657;1380672832;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 166 @ 0.00089339 = 0.1483 BTC [+] 337658;1380673076;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 0.1101 BTC [+] 337659;1380673137;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 224 @ 0.10998214 = 24.636 BTC [-] {4} 337660;1380673198;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4065 @ 0.00088626 = 3.6026 BTC [-] {2} 337661;1380673320;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 24 @ 0.09831 = 2.3594 BTC [-] {2} 337662;1380673503;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.01079999 = 0.216 BTC [+] 337663;1380673564;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 33 @ 0.01079999 = 0.3564 BTC [+] 337664;1380673686;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 10 @ 0.0105 = 0.105 BTC [-] 337665;1380674113;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00089339 = 1.6974 BTC [+] 337666;1380674784;assbot;[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 40 @ 0.093 = 3.72 BTC [-] 337667;1380674845;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 0.09812575 = 0.3925 BTC [-] {2} 337668;1380674846;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 534 @ 0.00089339 = 0.4771 BTC [+] 337669;1380675089;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 455 @ 0.0105 = 4.7775 BTC [+] 337670;1380675441;thestringpuller;;;tslb 337671;1380675443;gribble;Time since last block: 6 minutes and 50 seconds 337672;1380675455;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 567 @ 0.000232 = 0.1315 BTC [-] 337673;1380675821;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 38 @ 0.01053815 = 0.4004 BTC [+] {2} 337674;1380675928;thestringpuller;(14 + 27) * 15 337675;1380675932;thestringpuller;;;calc (14 + 27) * 15 337676;1380675933;gribble;615 337677;1380676006;thestringpuller;;;calc (14 + 14) * 15 337678;1380676007;gribble;420 337679;1380676614;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.08 BTC [-] 337680;1380676858;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 27 @ 0.0108 = 0.2916 BTC [+] {3} 337681;1380676919;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 166 @ 0.0108 = 1.7928 BTC [+] 337682;1380677285;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4807 BTC [-] 337683;1380677477;jborkl;Mircea - you here? 337684;1380678078;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1492 @ 0.00089391 = 1.3337 BTC [+] 337685;1380678993;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 145 @ 0.09170681 = 13.2975 BTC [-] {10} 337686;1380679176;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 18 @ 0.08510001 = 1.5318 BTC [-] 337687;1380679237;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 200 @ 0.085 = 17 BTC [-] 337688;1380679286;thestringpuller;NOEBEE is a scam 337689;1380679291;thestringpuller;sell your xbond guys 337690;1380679298;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 10 @ 0.05000001 = 0.5 BTC [-] 337691;1380679306;DiabloD3;everything is a scam 337692;1380679308;DiabloD3;sell your everything 337693;1380679319;thestringpuller;dmc lololol 337694;1380679322;thestringpuller;jkjkjkjk 337695;1380679336;DiabloD3;yes, please sell your DMC 337696;1380679341;DiabloD3;get out while you can 337697;1380679717;kakobrekla;josh got bitslaped 337698;1380679719;kakobrekla;quoting: 337699;1380679721;kakobrekla;I said I estimated it would be finished by September. We are close and will probably miss that estimation by... TWO WEEKS! Or so... 337700;1380679721;kakobrekla;In either case, kudos to KnC for getting it done. We'll see how it shapes up here on out. Please keep in mind that BFL has shipped more ASIC units than all other vendors combined, several times over and we are still shipping. Sure there's lots of things we could have done better, but it was a learning process and we were the first to move in this direction. It's much easier to follow than to lead, at least you can learn from the mistakes o 337701;1380679791;kakobrekla;i wrote bitslaped?? i ment bitch slaped 337702;1380679800;kakobrekla;too much bitcoin not enough bitch. 337703;1380679816;kakobrekla;bad for your mental health 337704;1380679849;KRS1;Welcome, mircea_popescu. 337705;1380679869;mircea_popescu;those two lines... 337706;1380680152;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4806 = 0.9612 BTC [-] 337707;1380680153;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.01080001 = 0.432 BTC [-] 337708;1380680457;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6041 @ 0.00089541 = 5.4092 BTC [+] {3} 337709;1380680513;kakobrekla;http://www.theguardian.com/music/2013/sep/23/pussy-riot-hunger-strike-nadezhda-tolokonnikova 337710;1380680524;ozbot;Pussy Riot's Nadezhda Tolokonnikova: Why I have gone on hunger strike | Music | theguardian.com 337711;1380680534;mircea_popescu;what, still ? 337712;1380680555;kakobrekla;aparently ended a few hrs ago 337713;1380680565;mircea_popescu;she spends half the year on hunger strike because if she deosn't she gets fat and if she's fat da police no longer want to grab her tits. 337714;1380680565;kakobrekla;i was unaware of this completley 337715;1380680640;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 530 @ 0.06624527 = 35.11 BTC [+] {5} 337716;1380680701;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2650 @ 0.0029 = 7.685 BTC [-] {3} 337717;1380681494;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.48 BTC [-] 337718;1380681495;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00089891 = 2.4271 BTC [+] {2} 337719;1380681799;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 122 @ 0.01022188 = 1.2471 BTC [-] {6} 337720;1380681860;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 78 @ 0.00943525 = 0.7359 BTC [-] {6} 337721;1380681982;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 25 @ 1.071 = 26.775 BTC [-] 337722;1380682226;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.001171 = 0.1171 BTC [+] 337723;1380682409;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1577 @ 0.00089831 = 1.4166 BTC [-] 337724;1380682958;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.12 BTC [+] 337725;1380683080;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.12 = 7.84 BTC [+] 337726;1380683202;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 12787 @ 0.00022711 = 2.9041 BTC [-] {8} 337727;1380683446;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.00920001 = 0.184 BTC [-] 337728;1380683517;mircea_popescu;"Your articles are definitely worth it, great stuff. I get a lot out of your writing." << testimonials. 337729;1380683690;assbot;[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 23 @ 0.0427 = 0.9821 BTC [+] 337730;1380683873;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 650 @ 0.00089831 = 0.5839 BTC [-] 337731;1380683934;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 17 @ 0.01 = 0.17 BTC [+] 337732;1380684178;assbot;[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 149 @ 0.04025778 = 5.9984 BTC [-] {7} 337733;1380684239;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 40000 @ 0.00022301 = 8.9204 BTC [-] {9} 337734;1380684300;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2489 @ 0.00090097 = 2.2425 BTC [+] {2} 337735;1380685215;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00090486 = 1.7192 BTC [+] 337736;1380686191;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 0.08 = 0.16 BTC [+] 337737;1380686313;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2000 @ 0.00029042 = 0.5808 BTC [-] {3} 337738;1380687106;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 33 @ 0.01066999 = 0.3521 BTC [+] 337739;1380687167;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 700 @ 0.01079164 = 7.5541 BTC [+] {7} 337740;1380687228;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 46 @ 0.01174455 = 0.5402 BTC [+] {2} 337741;1380687290;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 149 @ 0.01190837 = 1.7743 BTC [+] {4} 337742;1380688384;MilkyLep;.d 337743;1380688385;ozbot;148819199.80509 | Next Diff in 872 blocks | Estimated Change: 20.2847% in 4d 19h 50m 12s 337744;1380689180;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 807 @ 0.00090486 = 0.7302 BTC [+] 337745;1380689790;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.081 BTC [-] 337746;1380690095;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1250 @ 0.00022264 = 0.2783 BTC [-] {3} 337747;1380690156;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.139 BTC [+] 337748;1380690644;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 5294 @ 0.0002225 = 1.1779 BTC [-] {2} 337749;1380690705;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 706 @ 0.0002223 = 0.1569 BTC [-] 337750;1380690766;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1227 @ 0.00090486 = 1.1103 BTC [+] 337751;1380690766;assbot;[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 18 @ 0.09986 = 1.7975 BTC [-] 337752;1380690827;assbot;[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 3 @ 0.1001 = 0.3003 BTC [+] 337753;1380690949;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 3000 @ 0.0002223 = 0.6669 BTC [-] 337754;1380691010;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 1.13933333 = 6.836 BTC [+] {3} 337755;1380691010;assbot;[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 32 @ 0.0427 = 1.3664 BTC [+] 337756;1380691071;assbot;[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.093 = 0.279 BTC [+] 337757;1380691315;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 550 @ 0.00092 = 0.506 BTC [+] 337758;1380691410;mircea_popescu;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQsgwt8Rk1I 337759;1380691411;ozbot;Enforcing Claims: How to Get Your A4V to Work 100% of the Time - YouTube 337760;1380691418;mircea_popescu;almost as funny as the forum securities. 337761;1380691695;VanCleef;its about to get funnier again 337762;1380692047;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00092 = 2.208 BTC [+] 337763;1380692474;assbot;[BTCTC] [RSM] 135 @ 0.002101 = 0.2836 BTC [-] {2} 337764;1380692657;assbot;[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 6 @ 0.17 = 1.02 BTC [-] 337765;1380692779;assbot;[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 122 @ 0.00155999 = 0.1903 BTC [+] {2} 337766;1380693084;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 366 @ 0.0009196 = 0.3366 BTC [-] 337767;1380694510;Vexual;.news 337768;1380695402;assbot;[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 392 @ 0.0427 = 16.7384 BTC [+] 337769;1380695793;Vexual;emp resistant vibrator failure sets tongues wagging 337770;1380698086;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.0009196 = 3.2186 BTC [-] 337771;1380698147;assbot;[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 16 @ 0.1001 = 1.6016 BTC [+] 337772;1380698513;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [BTC-GROWTH] 17 @ 0.083 = 1.411 BTC [-] 337773;1380698635;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [BTC-GROWTH] 11 @ 0.082 = 0.902 BTC [-] 337774;1380699916;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1138 @ 0.00092 = 1.047 BTC [+] 337775;1380699917;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.155 = 2.31 BTC [+] 337776;1380700160;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.155 = 3.465 BTC [+] 337777;1380700221;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [BTC-GROWTH] 376 @ 0.082 = 30.832 BTC [-] 337778;1380700831;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 1.1591111 = 10.432 BTC [+] {4} 337779;1380701258;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 500 @ 0.00092 = 0.46 BTC [+] 337780;1380701929;assbot;[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1000 @ 0.00104826 = 1.0483 BTC [-] {5} 337781;1380702478;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 1.16 = 10.44 BTC [+] 337782;1380702661;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.155 BTC [-] 337783;1380702844;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.12 BTC [-] 337784;1380702905;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.12 = 2.24 BTC [-] 337785;1380703454;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 11 @ 1.09763635 = 12.074 BTC [-] {6} 337786;1380703515;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 55 @ 1.0111636 = 55.614 BTC [-] {9} 337787;1380703515;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 234 @ 0.0009196 = 0.2152 BTC [-] 337788;1380703576;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 700 @ 0.00091916 = 0.6434 BTC [-] 337789;1380704735;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1 BTC [+] 337790;1380706931;assbot;[MPEX] [O] [O.USD.C131T] 2 @ 0.40973558 = 0.8195 BTC [+] 337791;1380706931;assbot;[MPEX] [O] [O.USD.P161T] 1 @ 0.7862924 BTC [-] 337792;1380707846;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.1 = 11 BTC [+] {2} 337793;1380708151;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.149 BTC [+] 337794;1380708212;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [COG.F] 1 @ 0.5001 BTC [-] 337795;1380708273;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.15 BTC [+] 337796;1380710286;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00091817 = 0.9182 BTC [-] 337797;1380712238;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 67893 @ 0.00022176 = 15.056 BTC [-] {13} 337798;1380714434;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.14 = 3.42 BTC [-] 337799;1380715532;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.147 = 4.588 BTC [+] 337800;1380715593;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.147 = 2.294 BTC [+] 337801;1380715654;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.14774999 = 4.591 BTC [+] {3} 337802;1380718704;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.133 BTC [-] 337803;1380719558;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 0.09333333 = 0.28 BTC [+] {2} 337804;1380719985;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4000 @ 0.0002904 = 1.1616 BTC [-] 337805;1380720168;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.131 BTC [-] 337806;1380720168;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 0.1348 BTC [+] 337807;1380720437;assbot; what, i was on a break 337808;1380720621;VanCleef;must be some really low divs coming up if they're giving a update before divs 337809;1380720733;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2500 @ 0.00022 = 0.55 BTC [-] {2} 337810;1380721038;assbot;[BTCTC] [FIMB] 207 @ 0.00914364 = 1.8927 BTC [-] {4} 337811;1380721074;mircea_popescu;http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Iran-Dishes-1.jpg 337812;1380721124;kleeck;^ Is that art? 337813;1380721126;pankkake;those look like bar tables 337814;1380721160;assbot;[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2106 @ 0.00980279 = 20.6447 BTC [-] {6} 337815;1380721408;KRS1;what are those zany Iranians up to now.. 337816;1380721463;VanCleef;reopening us government? 337817;1380721510;mircea_popescu;yea first i thought o look, beardy faggot on a tank in a french cafe 337818;1380721526;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 1.035 = 6.21 BTC [-] 337819;1380721739;kakobrekla;http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/aG9jO57_460s.jpg 337820;1380721759;Rulother;^ 337821;1380721800;mircea_popescu;that looks like a scam link 337822;1380721831;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/the-sops-or-what-might-you-expect-from-government-clerks/ 337823;1380721832;ozbot;The SOPS, or what might you expect from government clerks pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 337824;1380721863;kakobrekla;long, do you have a pic to summarize it 337825;1380722075;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 5300 @ 0.00022 = 1.166 BTC [-] 337826;1380722197;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.01 = 2.02 BTC [-] 337827;1380722405;thestringpuller;"i woke up this morning like fuck da world" - Jeezy 337828;1380722410;thestringpuller;Mr. Popescu 337829;1380722432;thestringpuller;I'm going by the rap moniker lil' pescu 337830;1380722438;thestringpuller;do I have to pay you royalties? 337831;1380722441;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00091793 = 3.9471 BTC [-] {3} 337832;1380722467;VanCleef;naaaaas 337833;1380722502;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 1.16197999 BTC [-] 337834;1380722503;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1386 @ 0.00091645 = 1.2702 BTC [-] 337835;1380722503;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 20000 @ 0.00022 = 4.4 BTC [-] {2} 337836;1380722667;thestringpuller;suhweet, 'lil 'pescu in da house yo! 337837;1380722746;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.001 = 2.002 BTC [-] 337838;1380722807;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1 = 3 BTC [-] 337839;1380722868;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.99 = 9.9 BTC [-] 337840;1380722929;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.98006999 = 9.8007 BTC [-] {5} 337841;1380722978;Rulother;bah dumb tablet 337842;1380723112;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.11100009 = 0.333 BTC [-] 337843;1380723173;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 77 @ 0.11003896 = 8.473 BTC [-] {3} 337844;1380723417;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2290 @ 0.00022 = 0.5038 BTC [-] {2} 337845;1380723600;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2000 @ 0.000211 = 0.422 BTC [-] 337846;1380723661;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 5 @ 0.14 = 0.7 BTC [+] 337847;1380723715;dexX7;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1nkoju/bitcoin_core_dev_websites_do_not_need_passwords/ 337848;1380723717;ozbot;Bitcoin core dev: websites do not need passwords : Bitcoin 337849;1380723722;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 650 @ 0.00091645 = 0.5957 BTC [-] 337850;1380723783;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 9807 @ 0.00020302 = 1.991 BTC [-] {5} 337851;1380723905;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 6152 @ 0.00020007 = 1.2308 BTC [-] {3} 337852;1380723952;mircea_popescu;herp. how can this dood be such an asshole ? 337853;1380723967;mircea_popescu;mpex has been using the *superior* gpg signature method for two years now. 337854;1380723996;mircea_popescu;all he has to say is "please use our braindamaged reimplementation" ? no mention of anything, just like that, idiot garzik has invented the world. 337855;1380723999;mircea_popescu;fucking outrageous. 337856;1380724045;dexX7;hehe yes 337857;1380724050;dexX7;that's why i'm posting this 337858;1380724210;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1000 @ 0.0002003 = 0.2003 BTC [+] 337859;1380724271;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69348300 BTC to 1`386`966 shares, 50 satoshi per share 337860;1380724383;mircea_popescu;last i looked at it it was still broken, because god forbid they actually specify anything. 337861;1380724454;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.0095 = 0.285 BTC [-] {2} 337862;1380724576;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 7265 @ 0.00019646 = 1.4273 BTC [-] {3} 337863;1380724576;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 70 @ 0.00957857 = 0.6705 BTC [+] {3} 337864;1380724637;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 5000 @ 0.0002002 = 1.001 BTC [+] 337865;1380724698;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 697 @ 0.0002002 = 0.1395 BTC [+] 337866;1380724820;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 35 @ 0.012 = 0.42 BTC [+] 337867;1380725186;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 1.16197999 = 2.324 BTC [-] {2} 337868;1380725430;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00091635 = 1.6494 BTC [-] 337869;1380725735;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.45146374 = 3.6117 BTC [-] {5} 337870;1380725796;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.41900499 = 4.19 BTC [-] {3} 337871;1380725797;assbot;[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 203 @ 0.00997 = 2.0239 BTC [+] 337872;1380725857;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4034 = 1.2102 BTC [-] {2} 337873;1380725858;assbot;[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 281 @ 0.00998 = 2.8044 BTC [+] 337874;1380726113;jurov;would be nice to have GPG-based bitcoin wallet 337875;1380726131;jurov;prolly needs cryptographer to decide how best to conver RSA/DSA privkey to bitcoin 256bit one 337876;1380726284;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1102 @ 0.001208 = 1.3312 BTC [+] 337877;1380726292;jurov;or, better, to be used as seed for electrum,to get a seed for deterministic keys 337878;1380726295;kakobrekla;seems a hater discovered bash 337879;1380726320;jurov;kakobrekla what? 337880;1380726349;kakobrekla;everything got downvoted to the ground 337881;1380726356;kakobrekla;lol 337882;1380726406;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.48048 = 4.8048 BTC [+] {2} 337883;1380726407;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 18 @ 0.116 = 2.088 BTC [-] {2} 337884;1380726569;mircea_popescu;jurov or better, make the bicoin key 16 bits. 337885;1380726583;mircea_popescu;which should be enough for everyone. 337886;1380726830;jurov;and, if they absolutely strive improve over gpg, need to better protect input/output from copy/paste/encoding mishaps 337887;1380726852;mircea_popescu;except they don't strive to improve over gpg. 337888;1380726869;mircea_popescu;much in the style of bitcoin retardation, they strive to half implement the half of a good solution they understood, 337889;1380726882;mircea_popescu;and then pretend as if this braindamaged mess is due some credit or recognition or something. 337890;1380726894;assbot;[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 17 @ 0.17 = 2.89 BTC [-] 337891;1380726916;mircea_popescu;i'd absolutely love to see someone improve on gpg. 337892;1380727077;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 9 @ 0.13966196 = 1.257 BTC [+] {8} 337893;1380727138;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 1.16197999 = 2.324 BTC [-] 337894;1380727382;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.01189633 = 0.3569 BTC [+] {3} 337895;1380727443;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 12 @ 0.0119 = 0.1428 BTC [+] 337896;1380727504;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 15 @ 0.012 = 0.18 BTC [+] 337897;1380727748;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 1.02477506 = 12.2973 BTC [-] {9} 337898;1380727809;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4806 BTC [+] 337899;1380727992;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 0.14489999 = 0.2898 BTC [+] {2} 337900;1380728115;pizzaman1337;has SR really been seized? http://krebsonsecurity.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/silkroadseize.png 337901;1380728169;pizzaman1337;http://krebsonsecurity.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/UlbrichtCriminalComplaint.pdf 337902;1380728178;kakobrekla;i think this is because of govt shutdown 337903;1380728213;dexX7;wtf 337904;1380728230;dexX7;http://www.reddit.com/r/SilkRoad/comments/1nl41m/hidden_site_has_been_seized_image_appearing_when/ 337905;1380728230;ozbot;Hidden site has been seized image appearing when accessing SR - Is this a joke? : SilkRoad 337906;1380728254;dexX7;"It's a joke because the government went down yet all of these agencies are still functioning. It's a stab at our government" 337907;1380728419;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 800 @ 0.00091714 = 0.7337 BTC [+] 337908;1380728419;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.1411 BTC [+] 337909;1380728528;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla lmao 337910;1380728541;assbot;[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.17 BTC [-] 337911;1380728541;mircea_popescu;pizzaman1337 what "site" ? 337912;1380728643;dexX7;sr = silkroad 337913;1380728686;pizzaman1337;mircea_popescu: silkroad. http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/ 337914;1380728730;mircea_popescu;my point was just that it's not really a "site" 337915;1380728739;mircea_popescu;they seized what, the onion address ?! 337916;1380728750;mircea_popescu;normally these seizures refer to domain names. 337917;1380728779;Apocalyptic;like Biggy said, FBI runs all the tor nodes 337918;1380728801;pizzaman1337;I guess we'll find out if he had a backup plan. 337919;1380728802;zoinky;http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/10/02/crime-silkroad-raid-idUSL1N0HS12C20131002 337920;1380728803;ozbot;FBI raids alleged online drug market Silk Road, arrests owner 337921;1380728846;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 28 @ 0.01200713 = 0.3362 BTC [+] {3} 337922;1380728847;dexX7;woah 337923;1380728849;kakobrekla;wait the guy was in the states? 337924;1380728849;jurov;just leafing through that, pdf, page 21: 337925;1380728854;kakobrekla;is he like insane? 337926;1380728871;jurov;"DPR solicited a murder for hire of a certain Silk Road user" 337927;1380728882;mircea_popescu;so it ends then huh. 337928;1380728891;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla not everyone can be in somaliah 337929;1380728900;kakobrekla;:p 337930;1380728929;mircea_popescu;Ross William Ulbricht 337931;1380728932;mircea_popescu;not a bad name. 337932;1380728962;mircea_popescu;$3.6M in BTC seized 337933;1380728975;mircea_popescu;hah! i recall arguing with people in 2012 about how silkroad isn't really all that big. 337934;1380728985;mircea_popescu;i guess i was right and them people were wrong huh. 337935;1380729090;pizzaman1337;page 6, "All told, the site has generated sales revenue totaling over 9.5 million Bitcoins and collected comissions from these sales totaling over 600,000 Bitcoins" 337936;1380729174;mircea_popescu;and yet mysteriously all it had was 30k. 337937;1380729200;mircea_popescu;this is where bogus da claims meet bogus crowdthinking expectations. facts are on the other side of the river. 337938;1380729212;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 14 @ 0.01197 = 0.1676 BTC [-] 337939;1380729361;kakobrekla;"Prices of hash on the street surges with Silk Road shutting down!" 337940;1380729382;kakobrekla;err i mean getting busted. 337941;1380729991;pizzaman1337;DPR: "Not long ago, I had a clean hit done for $80k" ... 337942;1380730159;zoinky;where do you see this quote 337943;1380730164;mircea_popescu;dude, if they start arresting all the kids claiming they're gangsta on the internets... 337944;1380730172;mircea_popescu;reddit will be tumbleweed city. 337945;1380730197;pizzaman1337;zoinky: page 23 of the pdf link, point m 337946;1380730240;zoinky;thanks 337947;1380730261;San1ty-Work;AM pew pew 337948;1380730268;San1ty-Work;almost below 1 @ havelock 337949;1380730300;kakobrekla;apparently btc selleoff has started 337950;1380730318;San1ty-Work;btc selloff? 337951;1380730325;kakobrekla;;;ticker 337952;1380730325;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 136.25503, Best ask: 136.89974, Bid-ask spread: 0.64471, Last trade: 136.90477, 24 hour volume: 11219.84818691, 24 hour low: 136.20000, 24 hour high: 141.94997, 24 hour vwap: 139.22583 337953;1380730345;San1ty-Work;oh it's a gox ticker 337954;1380730357;San1ty-Work;what about something relevant, bitstamp? 337955;1380730403;San1ty-Work;2 btc lower then the high today I think 337956;1380730767;pizzaman1337;this doc is really interesting to me, they even looked at his stackoverflow posts and found the code he posted there in the site's source 337957;1380730798;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1200 @ 0.00091721 = 1.1007 BTC [+] 337958;1380730807;mircea_popescu;lol judging by the pdf the stuff on sale on sr wasn't really pure 337959;1380730823;mircea_popescu;everything's a "mixture containing detectable amts" 337960;1380731153;San1ty-Work;ow yeah 337961;1380731158;San1ty-Work;btc flash crash incomming 337962;1380731184;San1ty-Work;just read the post about silk road 337963;1380731191;San1ty-Work;get your buying engines ready 337964;1380731351;mircea_popescu;;;ticker 337965;1380731352;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 136.00000, Best ask: 136.00999, Bid-ask spread: 0.00999, Last trade: 136.00000, 24 hour volume: 13288.94659517, 24 hour low: 136.00000, 24 hour high: 141.94997, 24 hour vwap: 138.77097 337966;1380731366;mircea_popescu;i guess this will be confirmation #2 i was right about sr's relative irrelevance : 337967;1380731369;mircea_popescu;no particular crash. 337968;1380731387;mircea_popescu;buttcoins will end up known as popescu's 100. 337969;1380731443;kakobrekla;that brings up a question, was atlantis a pure scam, did they get tipped off or just pussies or something else 337970;1380731474;TomServo;or a honeypot used to correlate sellers? 337971;1380731482;mircea_popescu;who knows these things. 337972;1380731485;mjoiii;Timing of Atlantis bailing seems really odd now 337973;1380731490;mircea_popescu;o looky, the feds declare they made over 100 purchases. 337974;1380731493;mircea_popescu;party in da bronx 337975;1380731501;kakobrekla;lol 337976;1380731608;TAT_Investments;possible hoax? 337977;1380731623;dexX7;39 pages document doesn't look like a hoax 337978;1380731636;TAT_Investments;oh they provided the filing? 337979;1380731644;dexX7;http://krebsonsecurity.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/UlbrichtCriminalComplaint.pdf 337980;1380731666;TAT_Investments;thx 337981;1380731690;dexX7;https://mega.co.nz/#!pwkGkZDL!cNRLVQcm4CIuBIEimxkPLUfTZU9qs1wefSVWFICc66I mirror, if this one is too slow 337982;1380731690;mircea_popescu;TAT_Investments it's legit. 337983;1380731691;dexX7;np :) 337984;1380731691;ozbot;MEGA 337985;1380731713;mircea_popescu;also, bitcoin is "not in itself illegal and is known to have legitimate uses". 337986;1380731737;mircea_popescu;this would be nice if it didn't use the exact same verbiage as used to describe tor, the honeypot network. 337987;1380731745;dexX7;but.. but.. "it's _designed_ for anonymous transactions" 337988;1380731772;pizzaman1337;look at paragraph 22, they talk about how they "located a number of computer servers, ... associated with the operation of Silk Road". So, Tor = owned 337989;1380731861;mircea_popescu;this is a well known fact. 337990;1380731879;mircea_popescu;course internet ppls were bitching at me about tor coupla months back or w/e. 337991;1380731884;mircea_popescu;but they were wrong! 337992;1380731957;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.034 BTC [+] 337993;1380732097;pizzaman1337;so what will the feds do with that BTC? 337994;1380732115;Apocalyptic;pizzaman1337, wipe the wallet ? 337995;1380732141;pizzaman1337;so BTC are "destroyed"? 337996;1380732144;Troic;donate them to the EFF 337997;1380732159;mircea_popescu;jack shit they can do, pretty much. 337998;1380732163;Apocalyptic;pizzaman1337, these will be yeah i think 337999;1380732174;Apocalyptic;like they would give a shit about them... 338000;1380732207;mircea_popescu;this is going to be a pretty sad case once the da realises that he's going to be prosecuting an alleged 1bn+ criminal entreprise with exactly 0 confiscations. 338001;1380732208;pizzaman1337;“When you interviewed [Ulbricht], he said he would never be arrested. But you can’t resist the FBI. We will find you.” dun dun dunnn... 338002;1380732262;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 705 @ 0.0002111 = 0.1488 BTC [+] 338003;1380732279;pizzaman1337;http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/10/02/end-of-the-silk-road-fbi-busts-the-webs-biggest-anonymous-drug-black-market/ 338004;1380732280;ozbot;End Of The Silk Road: FBI Busts The Web's Biggest Anonymous Drug Black Market - Forbes 338005;1380732288;TAT_Investments;;;ticker 338006;1380732288;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 134.00000, Best ask: 134.09993, Bid-ask spread: 0.09993, Last trade: 134.09994, 24 hour volume: 21244.12621046, 24 hour low: 132.00000, 24 hour high: 141.94997, 24 hour vwap: 136.93504 338007;1380732316;kakobrekla;like busting napster prolly. 338008;1380732349;TAT_Investments;bitcoin - perpetual drama machine 338009;1380732377;mircea_popescu;anyway. great thing honestly. i kinda liked the guy's ethos, but meh. had enough of junktards and their btc=pills bs. 338010;1380732400;mircea_popescu;maybe it now gets through skulls that sr was not particularly relevant. 338011;1380732483;dexX7;fuck it 338012;1380732495;dexX7;the gox ticker looks strange 338013;1380732505;jcpham;dump 338014;1380732546;dexX7;http://i.imgur.com/BQiW242.png 338015;1380732608;thestringpuller;thats depressing 338016;1380732647;dexX7;http://www.linkedin.com/in/rossulbricht 338017;1380732648;ozbot;Ross Ulbricht | LinkedIn 338018;1380732652;thestringpuller;they come from the mpie next 338019;1380732657;thestringpuller;mpoe* 338020;1380732689;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00029 = 0.29 BTC [-] 338021;1380732690;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1000 @ 0.000192 = 0.192 BTC [-] 338022;1380732730;mircea_popescu;haha this is precious 338023;1380732750;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5000 @ 0.00028005 = 1.4003 BTC [-] {6} 338024;1380732751;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 713 @ 0.0001906 = 0.1359 BTC [-] {2} 338025;1380732756;mircea_popescu;lmao, 150k or 300k ? 80k!!1 338026;1380732762;mircea_popescu;haggle of death! 338027;1380732807;mircea_popescu;;;google unintentionally entertain 338028;1380732808;gribble;The 10 Best Unintentionally Hilarious Propaganda Videos: ; Review: Unfunny Undead Flick 'Harold's Going Stiff' Comes To Life ...: ; Unintentionally Terrifying Watch Out for These Accidental Horror (1 more message) 338029;1380732811;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2807 @ 0.0001904 = 0.5345 BTC [-] 338030;1380732911;Apocalyptic;mircea_popescu, kid is serious heh 338031;1380733184;VanCleef;i think its bad luck to have pirate in your name 338032;1380733200;zoinky;lol 338033;1380733299;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5765 @ 0.00028001 = 1.6143 BTC [-] {2} 338034;1380733570;mircea_popescu;lol 338035;1380733592;mircea_popescu;pirate specifically or p's in general ? 338036;1380733604;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00028 = 0.28 BTC [-] {2} 338037;1380733665;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3119 @ 0.00091669 = 2.8592 BTC [-] {3} 338038;1380733671;fractal;SR pwned 338039;1380733683;fractal;DPR used his real name and email on the forums in a post a long time ago 338040;1380733687;fractal;got pwned 338041;1380733695;fractal;wow 338042;1380733909;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 69 @ 0.97522171 = 67.2903 BTC [-] {10} 338043;1380734031;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 81 @ 0.96135554 = 77.8698 BTC [-] {5} 338044;1380734031;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.98 = 4.9 BTC [-] {4} 338045;1380734093;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1000 @ 0.00984681 = 9.8468 BTC [-] {34} 338046;1380734293;mircea_popescu;<fractal> DPR used his real name and email on the forums in a post a long time ago < > 338047;1380734295;mircea_popescu;? 338048;1380734326;dexX7;paragraph 37+38 338049;1380734336;virtuals_mr;;;ticker 338050;1380734336;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 130.12200, Best ask: 130.51005, Bid-ask spread: 0.38805, Last trade: 130.12200, 24 hour volume: 25318.67401185, 24 hour low: 130.12200, 24 hour high: 141.94997, 24 hour vwap: 136.08809 338051;1380734344;dexX7;is there any theymos pitchfork thread already? 338052;1380734365;dexX7;for not keeping btctalks userdata safe? xD 338053;1380734397;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1483 @ 0.00091788 = 1.3612 BTC [+] {2} 338054;1380734436;mircea_popescu;tbh i doubt it. 338055;1380734437;mjr_;damn guys 338056;1380734441;mjr_;this shit is crazy 338057;1380734472;mjr_;$25 spread between bitstamp and gox 338058;1380734494;jcpham;down she goes 338059;1380734495;saulimus;yep 338060;1380734501;jcpham;gox is money desperate to get out 338061;1380734573;dexX7;boom 338062;1380734586;dexX7;;;ticker 338063;1380734586;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 128.11200, Best ask: 128.89995, Bid-ask spread: 0.78795, Last trade: 128.11200, 24 hour volume: 28616.74916090, 24 hour low: 128.11201, 24 hour high: 141.94997, 24 hour vwap: 135.26952 338064;1380734598;dexX7;hm delayed 338065;1380734618;dexX7;bs at 102, gox 125 338066;1380734667;Namworld;;;ticker 338067;1380734668;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 125.15000, Best ask: 126.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.85000, Last trade: 126.00000, 24 hour volume: 31233.82779834, 24 hour low: 125.15000, 24 hour high: 141.94997, 24 hour vwap: 134.55545 338068;1380734668;fractal;BTC crashing 338069;1380734671;fractal;CRASHING 338070;1380734672;Namworld;yup 338071;1380734717;kakobrekla;;;ticker 338072;1380734733;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 125.10000, Best ask: 125.15000, Bid-ask spread: 0.05000, Last trade: 125.10000, 24 hour volume: 31556.58150277, 24 hour low: 125.02587, 24 hour high: 141.94997, 24 hour vwap: 134.46022 338073;1380734733;dexX7;actm selloff at bf 338074;1380734996;frb;this is insanity lmao 338075;1380735003;frb;a sell at 122 and a buy at 125 within 2 seconds 338076;1380735129;assbot;[MPEX] [O] [O.USD.P125T] 1 @ 0.48855451 BTC 338077;1380735157;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/law-enforcement-never-fails-to-unintentionally-entertain-part-2/ 338078;1380735158;ozbot;Law enforcement never fails to unintentionally entertain, part 2 pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Pope 338079;1380735164;mircea_popescu;and nao we can put this sr drama behind us. 338080;1380735190;assbot;[MPEX] [O] [O.USD.P125T] 1 @ 0.48855451 BTC 338081;1380735190;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4806 = 1.4418 BTC [+] 338082;1380735251;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4806 BTC [+] 338083;1380735264;dexX7;mircea_popescu: previous installment of this article -> "page not found" 338084;1380735307;mircea_popescu;fxed ty 338085;1380735312;kakobrekla;also log link is erroneous 338086;1380735341;mircea_popescu;omg 338087;1380735400;mircea_popescu;aha better nao ty. 338088;1380735434;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5255 @ 0.000285 = 1.4977 BTC [+] 338089;1380735536;thestringpuller;lol 338090;1380735556;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00091996 = 2.4839 BTC [+] 338091;1380735556;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.9611 BTC [-] 338092;1380735584;thestringpuller;good night silk road 338093;1380735617;assbot;[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.04883333 = 0.1465 BTC [+] {2} 338094;1380735646;dexX7;i'm wondering.. everywhere on sr they adviced to encrypt every pm etc., but the complaint often refers to the content of pms, even from dpr 338095;1380735665;Bugpowder;mircea_popescu: you are lucky I couldn't get my coinz out of JD in time to get puts.... 338096;1380735678;assbot;[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 8 @ 0.0549 = 0.4392 BTC [+] {2} 338097;1380735684;mircea_popescu;o hey, when did you get out. 338098;1380735736;Bugpowder;hah ha 338099;1380735739;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.9611 BTC [-] 338100;1380735739;assbot;[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 4 @ 0.09 = 0.36 BTC [-] {2} 338101;1380735739;mircea_popescu;:p 338102;1380735800;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 9 @ 0.4806 = 4.3254 BTC [+] 338103;1380735823;Bugpowder;argh. the puts were looking so juicy when I saw the first tweet. Doog is sleeping still.. 338104;1380735859;dexX7;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=242962.msg3282397#msg3282397 did you see this? 338105;1380735860;taub;rip bitcoin 338106;1380735860;ozbot;Just-Dice.com : Invest in 1% House Edge Dice Game 338107;1380735863;taub;if ucking bought on mtgox 338108;1380735865;taub;on the high 338109;1380735868;dexX7;i didn't read further because the sr stuff popped up 338110;1380735871;taub;well at least only like 30% of my capital 338111;1380735872;taub;but still 338112;1380735883;taub;and i missed the big shorting opportunity because i was too busy fapping 338113;1380735940;Rulother;the things I walk in on 338114;1380735983;assbot;[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 6 @ 0.081 = 0.486 BTC [-] 338115;1380736046;taub;http://www.sierrachart.com/image.php?l=1380736028484.png 338116;1380736105;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4806 BTC [+] 338117;1380736166;assbot;[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 11 @ 0.0556 = 0.6116 BTC [+] 338118;1380736227;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 450 @ 0.00091913 = 0.4136 BTC [-] 338119;1380736247;fractal_;crashing. we're going to $20 338120;1380736277;Bugpowder;oh shit Doog 338121;1380736281;Bugpowder;fuck an a 338122;1380736285;Bugpowder;it was inevitable 338123;1380736346;mircea_popescu;lol all you ppl and your panicy inclinations. 338124;1380736347;phish;how much is SR propping up this market lol 338125;1380736349;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00029038 = 0.2904 BTC [+] 338126;1380736350;assbot;[MPEX] [O] [O.USD.P125T] 10 @ 0.5149566 = 5.1496 BTC [+] 338127;1380736394;TAT_Investments;Sell all the things! 338128;1380736399;ystarnaud_;lol 338129;1380736410;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1191 @ 0.00029039 = 0.3459 BTC [+] {2} 338130;1380736471;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 400 @ 0.00029039 = 0.1162 BTC [+] {2} 338131;1380736514;Bugpowder;So the mechs thing was a hoax or waht? 338132;1380736558;andrew12;mechs is DPR 338133;1380736559;ystarnaud_;i dont know how much SR really props but i wouldnt be surprised if this wasnt just an excuse to help spark panic selling 338134;1380736559;andrew12;confirmed 338135;1380736586;TAT_Investments;yeah people havent had an excuse to panic sell in a while, most of these people will buy back 338136;1380736591;TAT_Investments;reverse gem 338137;1380736594;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 0.14401 BTC [-] 338138;1380736595;ystarnaud_;yep 338139;1380736654;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.01099999 = 0.44 BTC [+] 338140;1380736688;Namworld;;;ticker 338141;1380736688;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 110.80000, Best ask: 110.99000, Bid-ask spread: 0.19000, Last trade: 111.02364, 24 hour volume: 54523.22940388, 24 hour low: 110.00000, 24 hour high: 141.94399, 24 hour vwap: 127.73235 338142;1380736712;kleeck;This is bonkers! lol. 338143;1380736715;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 65 @ 0.9611 = 62.4715 BTC [-] 338144;1380736715;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.01099999 = 0.44 BTC [+] 338145;1380736716;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.92 BTC [-] 338146;1380736717;ystarnaud_;oh man just noticed AM down to 0.96... soon back down to what I paid in lol fun times 338147;1380736738;Namworld;This is crashing faster than in April 338148;1380736753;lewicki;it's oversold, it really doesnt make sense 338149;1380736768;Apocalyptic;yeah Namworld 338150;1380736769;saulimus;it's for a fundamental reason 338151;1380736772;bgupta;yeah, exchanges are more robust and can deal with the volume. 338152;1380736777;saulimus;not a technical one 338153;1380736844;Apocalyptic;bgupta, bitstamp's engine is lagging as hell... 338154;1380736848;Apocalyptic;bids higher than asks 338155;1380736862;jcpham;http://hover.ie/ 338156;1380736898;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 10 @ 0.01099999 = 0.11 BTC [+] 338157;1380736899;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.9611 = 1.9222 BTC [-] 338158;1380736905;lewicki;price is turning 338159;1380736936;kakobrekla;dont call it an engine if its two cans and a string 338160;1380736940;mircea_popescu;lol 338161;1380736942;mircea_popescu;the cangine ? 338162;1380736959;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.9611 BTC [-] 338163;1380736974;kakobrekla;mebbe 338164;1380737037;imsaguy;with USD/BTC price falling, most of the 'assets' should be climbing 338165;1380737051;saulimus;why? 338166;1380737062;fractal_;levelling out at 85 338167;1380737068;imsaguy;for example: that rental place sells houses 338168;1380737069;imsaguy;in USD 338169;1380737073;imsaguy;it gets rent, in USD 338170;1380737083;mircea_popescu;imsaguy yeah, and that's typical. 338171;1380737086;imsaguy;so when you convert the USD to BTC, its more BTC 338172;1380737095;imsaguy;divs should go up 338173;1380737104;lewicki;121 338174;1380737105;imsaguy;asset price should be climbing 338175;1380737106;lewicki;haha 338176;1380737117;imsaguy;but they won't 338177;1380737124;dexX7;aka share prices are pegged to usd instead of btc (which i don't think is true) 338178;1380737125;TAT_Investments;litecoin proves useless once again 338179;1380737138;imsaguy;dexX7: because most investors are stupid 338180;1380737142;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.99 BTC [+] 338181;1380737143;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4150 @ 0.00091996 = 3.8178 BTC [+] 338182;1380737146;bgupta;imsaguy: Wll when btc crashes, it means folks are scrambling to get into fiat. so they sell b-a to get into btc to convert into fiat. 338183;1380737157;ystarnaud_;yeah the recent LTC manipulation really fucked this up 338184;1380737171;imsaguy;ltc is still a thing? 338185;1380737183;mircea_popescu;arguably. 338186;1380737189;ystarnaud_;lol 338187;1380737190;imsaguy;is nmc still a thing? 338188;1380737229;Apocalyptic;yes 338189;1380737261;imsaguy;just remember kids: don't buy fake ids. it ruins your million dollar enterprise. 338190;1380737264;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 55 @ 0.10306382 = 5.6685 BTC [-] {6} 338191;1380737266;imsaguy;well, and don't sell murder. 338192;1380737275;imsaguy;that's just stupid. 338193;1380737569;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 23083 @ 0.00019026 = 4.3918 BTC [-] {5} 338194;1380737813;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 10 @ 0.011 = 0.11 BTC [+] 338195;1380738179;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.PURCHASE] 50 @ 0.005017 = 0.2509 BTC [-] 338196;1380738188;bitesak;hello 338197;1380738203;kakobrekla;hello there 338198;1380738240;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 1.14999999 = 2.3 BTC [+] 338199;1380738278;bitesak;I was on my coinbr account and am not seeing any available prices despite seeing a live orderbook on mpex.co which has not happened to me before. Curious if any comments available? 338200;1380738300;kakobrekla;ping jurov 338201;1380738301;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 1.14999999 = 3.45 BTC [+] 338202;1380738303;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.965 = 2.895 BTC [+] 338203;1380738362;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.965 BTC [+] 338204;1380738420;bitesak;thanks, just did. he seems away 338205;1380738423;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.965 BTC [+] 338206;1380738464;mircea_popescu;lmao that was all ? bacxk to 110 or w/e ? 338207;1380738469;mircea_popescu;oh but allow me to rub in in! 338208;1380738484;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.965 = 2.895 BTC [+] {3} 338209;1380738513;bitesak;http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/ is a nice addition :) 338210;1380738513;ozbot;#bitcoin-assets bash 338211;1380738582;bitesak;wanted to add some mpoe shares.. 338212;1380738644;mircea_popescu;bitesak im sure jurov will sort you out asap. 338213;1380738757;jurov;bitesak, i hear you...lemme see 338214;1380738765;bitesak;a few months ago he sorted me out in a few minutes, so I am inclined to expect the same indeed 338215;1380738801;kakobrekla;bitesak apparently it made some people mad cause and they ragevoted 338216;1380738815;kakobrekla;-and or -cause 338217;1380739033;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2051 @ 0.00091668 = 1.8801 BTC [-] {3} 338218;1380739094;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 562 @ 0.00091483 = 0.5141 BTC [-] 338219;1380739094;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 3005 @ 0.00019 = 0.571 BTC [-] {2} 338220;1380739235;bitesak;mircmircea_popescu thanks. On another note, curious if you get solicitations/requests for new listings on mpex.co that are turned down or you just don't get any all together? 338221;1380739360;mircea_popescu;i get plenty, but very few that are workable. 338222;1380739460;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 52 @ 0.01015577 = 0.5281 BTC [-] {2} 338223;1380739466;dexX7;http://www.businessinsider.com/they-are-watching-bitcoin-users-are-freaking-out-about-the-arrest-of-the-alleged-founder-of-silk-road-2013-10 338224;1380739466;ozbot;'THEY ARE WATCHING': Bitcoin Users Are Freaking Out About The Arrest Of The Alleged Founder Of Silk 338225;1380739517;mircea_popescu;lol. 338226;1380739533;bitesak;decisions made in panic rarely work out as hoped 338227;1380739540;mircea_popescu;the media. "o huge news". nobody cares. " omg the people are fereaking out because of our huge news". derp. 338228;1380739544;TAT_Investments;some crash that was 338229;1380739562;mircea_popescu;TAT_Investments it went to 20!!1 338230;1380739567;Azelphur;I do admit I was a bit terrified since I'm sitting on 100 BTC 338231;1380739572;jcpham;the forum pitchforks 338232;1380739575;Azelphur;but, looks like it all went ok, seems to be normalising at 110 now? 338233;1380739576;jcpham;oh how i love it 338234;1380739582;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 578 @ 0.00091483 = 0.5288 BTC [-] 338235;1380739585;TAT_Investments;I called both bottoms like a champ :) 338236;1380739655;jcpham;so BI just links to questionable forum posts now and reddit threads and that is considered vetted sources 338237;1380739666;mircea_popescu;Azelphur if it makes you feel any better i sit on more. 338238;1380739668;mircea_popescu;jcpham yes. 338239;1380739679;Azelphur;mircea_popescu: I bet :) 338240;1380739684;jcpham;standard operating procedure i see 338241;1380739691;jcpham;just type it up and click publish 338242;1380739767;bitesak;mtgoy and bitstamp nearly have the same price ! 338243;1380739778;TAT_Investments;lol at them quoting VolcanicEruptor 338244;1380739792;kakobrekla;watch out if stamp crosses gox 338245;1380739797;TAT_Investments;isnt he like a Labcoin/ActM investor? 338246;1380739802;Scrat;bitesak: lol best typo ever 338247;1380739804;Scrat;"mtgoy" 338248;1380739823;mircea_popescu;lmao 338249;1380739829;jcpham;yes, by all means, let's quote activemining and labcoin investors 338250;1380739835;jcpham;this is good judgement 338251;1380739844;mircea_popescu;im sorry i don't have an exchange and im not jewish, for else i'd be using it. 338252;1380739861;mircea_popescu;jcpham what judgement. it's body idour or w/e bi stands for. 338253;1380739899;bitesak;i'm in this webirc chat and have "done" covering my first word. Now I know why 338254;1380739914;jcpham;http://imgur.com/quEjWDh 338255;1380739917;ozbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 338256;1380739947;dexX7;lol 338257;1380739958;mircea_popescu;http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2013/10/02/silk-road-closure-not-unexpected/ 338258;1380739959;ozbot;Silk Road Closure: Not Unexpected | Bingo Blog 338259;1380740045;mircea_popescu;given the extreme levels of retardation displayed in that complaint, the notion is starting to form that what if they got the wrong guy as part of the largest trollexperiment 4chan ever created. 338260;1380740056;jurov;bitesak: coinbr is down, sorry, will be up in 2 minutes 338261;1380740106;pankkake;so coinbr was hosted on silk road's server 338262;1380740108;pankkake;interesting 338263;1380740115;kakobrekla;lol 338264;1380740150;dexX7;mircea_popescu: are you serious? 338265;1380740168;fractal_;if you read the complaint, its obvious that its him. 338266;1380740172;fractal_;logic. 338267;1380740200;mircea_popescu;dexX7 yes. 338268;1380740234;mircea_popescu;fractal_ based on the agent's training and experience, it's shocking to discover no murder took place in canada contrary to some internet dorks said on the web. 338269;1380740255;kakobrekla;but that leaves only 2 options, sr is the gov and is shutdown for that reason or he is a part of the joke 338270;1380740259;kakobrekla;which is more unlikley 338271;1380740290;dexX7;uh oh 338272;1380740291;fractal_;the hit was FAKE.... the blackmailer was the hitman.... 338273;1380740292;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla i suppose the only way to further humiliate the govt after having run sr for two years, is to bring it back online monday with a "haha only kidding" 338274;1380740296;jurov;pankkake: lol 338275;1380740298;dexX7;today is the 10th birthday of 4chan 338276;1380740299;mircea_popescu;fractal_ duh. 338277;1380740307;TAT_Investments; but that leaves only 2 options, sr is the gov and is shutdown <<< i like this theory, NASA website is down at same time, coincidence?! 338278;1380740328;mircea_popescu;mind you, i'm not proposing this is a fact or anything. just... it gets you thinking. 338279;1380740331;kakobrekla;yeah all these gov sites are down 338280;1380740335;mircea_popescu;i've never seen agents this stupid. not even in america. 338281;1380740368;pankkake;I doubt it will come back. remember Atlantis? They probably tried the same things 338282;1380740378;pankkake;but the atlantis guy was smarter 338283;1380740397;mircea_popescu;i don't think anyone sane would use it if it came back anyway. 338284;1380740399;bitesak;jurox: okidoki, thanks for the notice 338285;1380740403;fractal_;Regarding the 'hit'... it doesnt make sense... DPR asks the blackmailers creditors to 'off him' ? obviously the hitman == the blackmailer. 338286;1380740404;mjr_;yeah 338287;1380740406;mircea_popescu;then again... not that many sane people in bitcoin. or on drugs. 338288;1380740408;bitesak;jurov: thanks !! 338289;1380740411;TAT_Investments;is BMR still going? 338290;1380740413;mjr_;i think it is time for the clones to enter 338291;1380740421;pankkake;TAT_Investments: yes 338292;1380740423;mircea_popescu;mjr_ how's panama 338293;1380740426;mjr_;great 338294;1380740431;mjr_;loving it so far 338295;1380740435;mircea_popescu;i thought they had your banks shut down for a week or w/e 338296;1380740437;mjr_;started our first satoshi square down here 338297;1380740437;pankkake;and "sheep market" 338298;1380740443;mjr_;not that i have seen 338299;1380740457;mjr_;i went to an atm to try and get a pic of the bank holiday 338300;1380740460;mjr_;but it gave me money 338301;1380740481;mjr_;in fact, i walked with someone who withdrew $1000 in order to buy bitcoin 338302;1380740519;mircea_popescu;oddness. 338303;1380740559;assbot;[MPEX] [O] [O.USD.P125T] 4 @ 0.05532317 = 0.2213 BTC [-] 338304;1380740625;mjr_;yep, very odd 338305;1380740679;jurov;bitesak: we're back, with price display 338306;1380740680;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00091996 = 2.3919 BTC [+] 338307;1380740680;assbot;[BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 9 @ 0.6 = 5.4 BTC [-] 338308;1380740757;mircea_popescu;did that just sell for .05 ?! 338309;1380740758;jurov;no help for silk road, tho... i had to cut it away when feds came 338310;1380740781;bitesak;jurov: indeed !!, thank you for your tip top service 338311;1380740794;TAT_Investments;;;ticker 338312;1380740795;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 126.11000, Best ask: 126.99000, Bid-ask spread: 0.88000, Last trade: 126.98000, 24 hour volume: 88702.50327367, 24 hour low: 109.70000, 24 hour high: 141.94399, 24 hour vwap: 125.00818 338313;1380740797;TAT_Investments;;;nethash 338314;1380740797;gribble;1344036.07003 338315;1380740802;assbot;[BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 589 @ 0.00118188 = 0.6961 BTC [-] {4} 338316;1380740802;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00091432 = 5.9431 BTC [-] {4} 338317;1380740804;TAT_Investments;;;bcstats 338318;1380740808;gribble;Current Blocks: 261321 | Current Difficulty: 1.4881919980509263E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 262079 | Next Difficulty In: 758 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 4 days, 7 hours, 57 minutes, and 15 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 180501777.787 | Estimated Percent Change: 21.28931 338319;1380740817;mjr_;not even sure if this will register on the 24 hour 338320;1380741163;Rick__;mp,are you there? 338321;1380741193;Rick__;I still cant use my key~~~~ 338322;1380741217;dexX7;mircea_popescu *ping* 338323;1380741269;mircea_popescu;sup 338324;1380741288;mircea_popescu;what's it say ? 338325;1380741343;Rick__;Unrecognized signature. Please email your public key first 338326;1380741351;mircea_popescu;are you using the new mpex key ? 338327;1380741373;Rick__;I think so 338328;1380741404;Rick__;when did you start the new key? 338329;1380741406;mircea_popescu;use the !mp command for a stat to see. 338330;1380741410;mircea_popescu;do you know how to do that ? 338331;1380741433;Rick__;nope have no idea 338332;1380741438;Rick__;teach me 338333;1380741519;mircea_popescu;you sign a STAT, then encrypt it as normal, then go to http://dpaste.com/ and paste it in there 338334;1380741527;mircea_popescu;then you go !mp http://dpaste.com/somecode 338335;1380741534;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1665 @ 0.00091996 = 1.5317 BTC [+] 338336;1380741620;Rick__;then you go !mp http://dpaste.com/somecode 338337;1380741627;Rick__;what is this mean 338338;1380741670;mircea_popescu;!mp http://dpaste.com/somecode 338339;1380741670;assbot;Processing. 338340;1380741672;assbot;Response: http://dpaste.com/1403875/plain/ 338341;1380741709;Rick__;I paste it in there,then i do what? 338342;1380741715;Rick__;what should i press 338343;1380741777;dexX7;"paste it" 338344;1380741779;dexX7;then copy the url 338345;1380741780;mircea_popescu;copy the url 338346;1380741816;Rick__;okay did that 338347;1380741820;Rick__;then? 338348;1380741829;mircea_popescu;!mp 338349;1380741829;assbot;Please use http://dpaste.com/ 338350;1380741852;mjr_;best title for the post on reddit 338351;1380741861;mjr_;napster is down - this is the END of illegal file sharing 338352;1380741862;Rick__;!mp http://dpaste.com/1403877/ 338353;1380741862;assbot;Processing. 338354;1380741864;assbot;Response: http://dpaste.com/1403878/plain/ 338355;1380741877;dexX7;lol mjr_ 338356;1380741880;Rick__;Unrecognized signature. Please email your public key first. 338357;1380741882;Rick__;still 338358;1380741902;mircea_popescu;you are using the old mpex key. please update to the new one. 338359;1380741912;Rick__;I used the mpex key created at 2013 02 11 338360;1380741930;Rick__;where is the new one? 338361;1380741934;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/mpex-status-report/ 338362;1380741935;ozbot;MPEx - Status Report pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 338363;1380741937;mircea_popescu;part II 338364;1380741964;kakobrekla;evil mp makes you pay a credit for new key 338365;1380741991;mircea_popescu;lol. gotta make ends meet 338366;1380741993;mircea_popescu;http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0x2EE93869A57D509A 338367;1380741993;ozbot;Search results for '0x2ee93869a57d509a' 338368;1380742007;kakobrekla;just trollin 338369;1380742144;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 955 @ 0.0002 = 0.191 BTC [-] {2} 338370;1380742165;KRS1;where does one get those complimentary mpex keys 338371;1380742342;dexX7;;;goxlag 338372;1380742343;gribble;MtGox lag is 0.626129 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00125475550551 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin to the other side of the Earth, along the surface (0.0001339 AU). 338373;1380742360;jurov;KRS1, ask mircea. but they don't support withdrawals 338374;1380742416;mircea_popescu;KRS1 they're for sale on sr. 338375;1380742776;KRS1;haha 338376;1380742815;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 26139 @ 0.00019081 = 4.9876 BTC [-] {5} 338377;1380742915;lewicki;sub .0002 338378;1380742984;dexX7;this seems so fueled/manufactured again.. the reddit "summary threads" are super loaded/exaggerated and made by day 1 posters with names like "sr_downfall".. then: lags, bad gateways and timeouts on bitcoin related websites.. and of course right before everything explodes: http://imgur.com/rC34KDS 338379;1380742989;taub;Advertised Silk Road days after it.s launch on drug forums and bitcointalk.org with the username .altoid.. 8 months later he used this username looking for developers and included his personal email (rossulbricht@gmail.com) in the message. 338380;1380742993;taub;Using records from a seized webserver, the FBI agent subpoena.d his way back through a private VPN server to an IP address at a coffee shop on Laguna street in San Francisco. This happened to be 500 feet away from the house of one on Ross Ulbricht.s friends. 338381;1380742995;pankkake;http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13860995 338382;1380742996;ozbot;anonymous market online? - Science and Technology - Shroomery Message Board 338383;1380742997;taub;US Customs intercepted a package containing 9 pieces of counterfeit id. All 9 had photos of Ross Ulbricht with different names. 338384;1380743000;taub;Ulbricht posted on Stack Overflow using his real name, asking .How can I connect to a Tor hidden service using curl in php?.. One minute later he changed his username to .frosty., but a subpoena shows the original name. 338385;1380743004;taub;wow this guy was a pro 338386;1380743033;mircea_popescu;dexX7 meanwhile over at bitbet, the potheads hope : 338387;1380743034;mircea_popescu;http://bitbet.us/bet/542/the-fbi-were-had/ 338388;1380743037;pankkake;well the good news is that someone with the technical ability can replace him 338389;1380743044;ozbot;BitBet - The FBI were had. 338390;1380743077;pankkake;that is fast, that bet must be an inside job 338391;1380743083;mircea_popescu;anyway, you can tell the wanna-be speculators that mp hath spoken, and their hopes were thereby crushed. 338392;1380743101;dexX7;mircea_popescu: awesome bet 338393;1380743109;dexX7;but somewhat too specific 338394;1380743137;pankkake;and it's Dread 338395;1380743169;mircea_popescu;i for one am impressed a sr user can type at all. 338396;1380743188;pankkake;silk road isn't only for potheads. or drugs. 338397;1380743202;kakobrekla;also for crackheads and whores? 338398;1380743222;asciilifeform;and custom crapware, and spam, apparently 338399;1380743228;lyspooner;someone give me 1700 coins and i'll give you a photo of a ketchup-covered body and some random numbers 338400;1380743243;pankkake;eh. I won't say what I wanted to buy on atlantis (and is still unavailable anywhere else) but it wasn't recreational drugs 338401;1380743262;jcpham;please, do tell. 338402;1380743269;mircea_popescu; also for crackheads and whores? << dude you should ipo your humor. 338403;1380743270;mircea_popescu;i'd buy some. 338404;1380743284;kakobrekla;:) 338405;1380743288;mircea_popescu;lyspooner can it be a woman at least ? 338406;1380743298;lyspooner;no, they're random! 338407;1380743302;mircea_popescu;this is what i don't understand, these retards already. at the very least they could see some tits for once in their life. 338408;1380743311;mircea_popescu;but... internet rats being fags... 338409;1380743324;dub;America was not shut down properly. Would you like to start America in safe mode, with free healthcare and without the guns? (Recommended) 338410;1380743352;kakobrekla;lmao 338411;1380743381;dub;sad part is they'd find some other way to implode 338412;1380743402;mircea_popescu;you can't not implode if you don't work. 338413;1380743425;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 0.143 BTC [-] 338414;1380743435;mircea_popescu;Bugpowder how;s my luck going ? 338415;1380743475;Rick__;fix it,thank you mp 338416;1380743527;mircea_popescu;yw. 338417;1380743582;asciilifeform;i'm still puzzling over the idiocy of that SR fellow. was he just tired of living? 338418;1380743658;mircea_popescu;likely, he was just a kid playing. these forum folk, they can do anything, haven't you heard ? 338419;1380743670;mircea_popescu;much less likely, he's about to rape the feds as per that bet. 338420;1380743679;asciilifeform;also, it would seem like the U.S. treasury now holds BTC? (if true) 338421;1380743698;mircea_popescu;i doubt they have the passphrase. 338422;1380743705;asciilifeform;or maybe whichever cops had the keys to the evidence locker have divvied it up already 338423;1380743721;mircea_popescu;besides... it will be cracked by some smart guy in the evidence room and emptied before the treasury gets it. 338424;1380743724;asciilifeform;eh, if that idiot was actually caught, he's probably spat out the key by now 338425;1380743725;mircea_popescu;right. 338426;1380743746;mircea_popescu;he'd have to be pretty retarded to give up the key lol. 338427;1380743749;mircea_popescu;only thing he;'s got. 338428;1380743758;lyspooner;"what are you going to do the next five years of your life?" DPR's response is here: http://youtu.be/Olib3jnvSmw?t=33m50s 338429;1380743841;mircea_popescu;dude;s stoned to all fuck is he. 338430;1380743864;mircea_popescu;amazing link. 338431;1380743864;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 338432;1380743965;pankkake;https://images.4chan.org/g/src/1380733208310.png 338433;1380743976;dub;he's gonna start a family alrite 338434;1380743981;asciilifeform;makes you wonder what a sober man might've accomplished. 338435;1380743982;dub;he'll be the mommy 338436;1380743999;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform indeed. 338437;1380744035;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] [PAID] 19.06535883 BTC to 250`761 shares, 7603 satoshi per share 338438;1380744035;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 5000 @ 0.0001851 = 0.9255 BTC [-] 338439;1380744036;mircea_popescu;i suspect we'd all benefit from much more stringent dope regulation. 338440;1380744051;asciilifeform;wonder if they'll Ulbricht around in a cage like Yemelyan Pugachev. 338441;1380744054;mircea_popescu;something along the lines of, shooting kids on the spot for the first pot offence. 338442;1380744068;DiabloD3;;;ticker 338443;1380744068;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 125.70001, Best ask: 126.01004, Bid-ask spread: 0.31003, Last trade: 126.01004, 24 hour volume: 96206.05570245, 24 hour low: 109.70000, 24 hour high: 141.94399, 24 hour vwap: 125.06223 338444;1380744122;dub;protip: if dope has killed your potential, you didnt have any 338445;1380744156;dub;but its nice to have things to blame rite 338446;1380744218;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] [PAID] 34.54254492 BTC to 4`316 shares, 800337 satoshi per share 338447;1380744231;mircea_popescu;dub if you didn't have any why aren't you shot yet. 338448;1380744268;dub;stop trying to divide by 0 338449;1380744279;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.95000001 BTC [-] 338450;1380744302;lyspooner;how short must that investigation have been? 338451;1380744304;mircea_popescu;my spurious pseudoarguments ;/ 338452;1380744310;TAT_Investments;$avg 338453;1380744311;mpexbot;TAT_Investments: 118.22 338454;1380744317;TAT_Investments;;;ticker 338455;1380744318;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 126.00000, Best ask: 126.99997, Bid-ask spread: 0.99997, Last trade: 126.00000, 24 hour volume: 96263.22037264, 24 hour low: 109.70000, 24 hour high: 141.94399, 24 hour vwap: 125.06298 338456;1380744319;lyspooner;7 step investigation: 338457;1380744328;lyspooner;1. find the first place where SR was mentioned 338458;1380744336;lyspooner;ok, sorry it was only 1 step 338459;1380744338;mircea_popescu;lyspooner http://trilema.com/2013/law-enforcement-never-fails-to-unintentionally-entertain-part-2/ 338460;1380744401;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 321 @ 0.00120211 = 0.3859 BTC [+] {2} 338461;1380744442;lyspooner;"VIII. The other geek agrees to Internet-kill himself over the Internet for great Internet lulz&drama + justice" 338462;1380744493;mircea_popescu;fact. 338463;1380744599;lyspooner;like i said, give me 1700 coins and i'll send you that ladypic with ketchup 338464;1380744650;mircea_popescu;the current going rate is about a quarter btc for inserting a satisfyingly thick writing implement in your anus 338465;1380744657;KRS1;i am testing my wallet..send me your coins and i will send them back..just make sure you tell me your address so i know who you are and if it was successful..ok 338466;1380744659;lyspooner;proof 338467;1380744669;mircea_popescu;;;google really are buttcoins nao 338468;1380744670;gribble;They really are Buttcoins nao pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; Perfect money corrupts absolutely pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: ; Bitcoin pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: 338469;1380744707;pankkake;the buttcoin went from 10 BTC to 0.25? 338470;1380744726;mircea_popescu;it pays being the first. 338471;1380744738;mircea_popescu;also, february btc. 338472;1380744767;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4972 @ 0.0002801 = 1.3927 BTC [-] 338473;1380744777;lyspooner;mircea_popescu what's all that crap on the camera lens? 338474;1380744797;mircea_popescu;i will allow you to guess. 338475;1380744828;lyspooner;tears 338476;1380744829;mircea_popescu;my own estimate is that this being a mirror in a bathroom in a house inhabited by that guy and similar bipedals 338477;1380744834;mircea_popescu;it's probably old dry cum 338478;1380744894;San1ty_;Ugh AM below 1 338479;1380744897;lyspooner;so that link with Rene Pinnell and Ross Ulbricht. i'm guessing that Rene guy is crapping his pants 338480;1380744908;pankkake;both those pics are very half assed 338481;1380744913;San1ty_;I'm starting to wonder if the cat can still deliver 338482;1380744914;mircea_popescu;lol 338483;1380744924;mircea_popescu;San1ty_ on the basis of the price ? 338484;1380744946;San1ty_;mircea_popescu, obv not 338485;1380744948;mircea_popescu;that's no basis at all. it came to within the band indicated by the girl back when. it's where it should be. 338486;1380744955;San1ty_;just shows that I'm not the only one thinking it 338487;1380744979;mircea_popescu;it just shows you're not the only one not thinking would be my preferred format, but anyway. 338488;1380745011;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 850 @ 0.00091655 = 0.7791 BTC [-] {2} 338489;1380745069;San1ty_;Haha, okay.. I'm not interested in price at all. Just the delays on the 500 gh's are kinda disappointing and the undecisiveness about second gen 338490;1380745106;mircea_popescu;on the rumor mill they're all having sudden problems in china over the growing interest that govt is taking in wtf is mining. 338491;1380745194;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.141 BTC [+] 338492;1380745259;af33;anyone know how do I hide assbot ticker from this channel? 338493;1380745267;mircea_popescu;/ignore assbot ALL 338494;1380745284;pankkake;with irssi, you can ignore on only one channel 338495;1380745297;pankkake;now I'm happy with just changing the color 338496;1380745310;af33;mircea_popescu: thank you. 338497;1380745434;dexX7;http://www.reddit.com/r/SilkRoad/comments/1nlt6d/sr_bust_finest_trollage/ 338498;1380745435;ozbot;SR bust == finest trollage? : SilkRoad 338499;1380745465;pankkake;clever 338500;1380745505;asciilifeform;any actual evidence for the troll hypothesis? 338501;1380745512;dexX7;the logo 338502;1380745525;dexX7;http://i.imgur.com/7jfZLgw.png 338503;1380745534;dub;http://www.aljazeera.com/news/asia-pacific/2013/10/new-evidence-n-korea-restarted-reactor-201310219416190275.html 338504;1380745534;ozbot;New evidence that N Korea restarted reactor - Asia-Pacific - Al Jazeera English 338505;1380745553;dub;that satellite is flying pretty low 338506;1380745558;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform it was on the internet... 338507;1380745560;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.12 = 0.24 BTC [-] 338508;1380745810;dub;heh 338509;1380745829;dub; what are you going to do with those bitcoin things now? 338510;1380745839;dub;SR, the only thing bitcoins are for 338511;1380745858;pankkake;no, there is a brothel accepting bitcoin 338512;1380745867;dub;I like the implication that I'm regularly buying drugs on the internet 338513;1380745926;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 14 @ 0.01079999 = 0.1512 BTC [-] 338514;1380745927;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 4284 @ 0.00494294 = 21.1756 BTC [-] {7} 338515;1380745964;lyspooner;you mean bitcoin assets *aren't* drugs? 338516;1380745969;lyspooner;oh crap, i'm out 338517;1380745979;kleeck;I regularly shoot up my bitcoins. 338518;1380746048;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.PURCHASE] 29 @ 0.00515796 = 0.1496 BTC [-] {2} 338519;1380746109;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [BTC-GROWTH] 19 @ 0.082 = 1.558 BTC [-] 338520;1380746109;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 1 BTC [+] 338521;1380746110;TomServo;Was there a 'hidden site has been seized' notice when Freedom Hosting was taken down? 338522;1380746151;pankkake;I don't think so 338523;1380746162;asciilifeform;nope, just a driveby exploit. 338524;1380746170;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.PURCHASE] 254 @ 0.005 = 1.27 BTC [-] 338525;1380746231;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 109 @ 0.00492922 = 0.5373 BTC [-] {2} 338526;1380746262;mircea_popescu;there was, yes. 338527;1380746264;mircea_popescu;on the guy's main page. 338528;1380746292;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1685 @ 0.00091996 = 1.5501 BTC [+] 338529;1380746597;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 8745 @ 0.0001851 = 1.6187 BTC [-] 338530;1380746597;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 26 @ 0.00960001 = 0.2496 BTC [-] 338531;1380746658;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 89 @ 0.00960001 = 0.8544 BTC [-] 338532;1380746780;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 16 @ 0.01079999 = 0.1728 BTC [+] {3} 338533;1380747024;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 94 @ 0.001208 = 0.1136 BTC [+] 338534;1380747213;dub;http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2013/10/rouhani-iran-us-relationship-angers-israel-2013102185832931333.html 338535;1380747213;ozbot;Rouhani: Iran-US relationship angers Israel - Middle East - Al Jazeera English 338536;1380747227;dub;obama should grow a beard 338537;1380747244;dub;and wear a towel 338538;1380747268;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 13 @ 0.01079999 = 0.1404 BTC [+] 338539;1380747451;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.PURCHASE] 111 @ 0.0053 = 0.5883 BTC [+] 338540;1380747512;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 58 @ 0.00960001 = 0.5568 BTC [-] {2} 338541;1380747525;mjoiii;I don't remember seeing the word "hidden" in this notice before 338542;1380747556;mjoiii;does anyone remember it being there in the past? 338543;1380747573;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.95625 = 11.475 BTC [-] {3} 338544;1380747599;dub;http://slashdot.org/topic/datacenter/former-nsa-honcho-calls-enterprise-security-appalling/ 338545;1380747601;ozbot;Former NSA Honcho Calls Enterprise Security 'Appalling' 338546;1380747631;dub;obvious statement needs stating 338547;1380747634;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.953 = 2.859 BTC [-] 338548;1380747649;dub;As we look at the situation in the security arena. we see an awful lot of big companies . Fortune 100-level companies . with, to be perfectly candid, appalling security. They have fundamentally no idea what they.re doing, 338549;1380747783;kakobrekla;lol theres bets on this thing http://bitbet.us/bet/542/the-fbi-were-had/ 338550;1380747798;mircea_popescu;shit tha matters. 338551;1380747809;pankkake;thanks to dexX7 trolling reddit 338552;1380747813;kakobrekla;also even odds 338553;1380747817;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.95 BTC [-] 338554;1380747838;dub;how the fuck does that get resolved? 338555;1380747869;pankkake;the "dpr tried to hire a hitman" is fishy, though 338556;1380747878;pankkake;it looks like it wasn't even gpg signed! 338557;1380747887;Diablo-D3;dub: how does it get resolved? the site comes back online tommorow 338558;1380747904;pankkake;dub: as asual. by bribing bitbet staff 338559;1380747928;dub;I'm shocked that it even went down 338560;1380747935;Diablo-D3;Im not 338561;1380747940;Diablo-D3;sometimes the FBI is competent 338562;1380747941;dub;standard FBI MO would be to leave it running 338563;1380747966;mjoiii;they left it running since july when they imaged it 338564;1380748000;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 17000 @ 0.00018188 = 3.092 BTC [-] {6} 338565;1380748055;pankkake;I hope the server was encrypted… 338566;1380748087;mjoiii;yup 338567;1380748117;Diablo-D3;pankkake: that wouldnt really do much 338568;1380748131;Diablo-D3;they most likely pulled the key out of ram before shutting it down 338569;1380748168;pankkake;Diablo-D3: there are ways around that. like hosting it in a physically controlled location 338570;1380748183;assbot;[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 200 @ 0.00962224 = 1.9244 BTC [-] {3} 338571;1380748211;mjoiii;pankkake: so they'd image it by remote? 338572;1380748235;pankkake;you can read ram through walls? 338573;1380748254;mjoiii;like physically secure? 338574;1380748262;pankkake;yes, that's what I meant 338575;1380748263;mjoiii;then how'd they image it back in jul? 338576;1380748291;pankkake;oh, I mean that's what *should* be done - not what was done 338577;1380748313;mjoiii;yeah, shit, what should've.. 338578;1380748321;pankkake;looks like I'm the only one competent and paranoid enough to run the new silk road. brb 338579;1380748329;mjoiii;must be plenty of people sweating over unencrypted messages back and forth 338580;1380748358;pankkake;http://openpgpjs.org/ is useful to force even noobs to use gpg 338581;1380748359;ozbot;OpenPGP.js 338582;1380748360;mjoiii;i would have thought dpr would be way the hell away from the US 338583;1380748368;mjoiii;san francisco was a shock 338584;1380748479;mjoiii;would this be the first occurrence of a tor site being taken down? 338585;1380748507;pankkake;freedom hosting was first 338586;1380748521;mjoiii;so that was an .onion too, i didn't know 338587;1380748527;pankkake;then atlantis shut down by itself 338588;1380748532;pankkake;it was a hoster of .onions 338589;1380748568;dub;they can read ram through the power lines 338590;1380748584;dub;they could in the 80's 338591;1380748616;pankkake;technology has changed 338592;1380748619;mjoiii;directly through the lines or from the waves coming off them? 338593;1380748638;kakobrekla;with trollvision glasses 338594;1380748648;mjoiii;not xray specs? 338595;1380748651;pankkake;and even then, there are full-whatever UPSes that would probably kill it 338596;1380748654;dub;look at the waaaaves brah 338597;1380748708;dub;I have a buddy that designed a bunch of govt security shit 338598;1380748745;mjoiii;chips for vpn? 338599;1380748749;dub;even back then all your peripherals, monitor, keyboard etc was hooked up opticaly 338600;1380748799;pankkake;CRT monitors were easy to spy on 338601;1380748827;mjoiii;dub what do you mean optically? 338602;1380748835;mjoiii;personal computers? 338603;1380748838;kakobrekla;you can cool down ram and move it to another location / machine and read it 338604;1380748864;mjoiii;kako: freeze it's state? 338605;1380748889;dub;basically pc's 338606;1380748919;mjoiii;trying to understand... how optical? keyboard for example. 338607;1380748920;kakobrekla;mjoiii this basically http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_boot_attack 338608;1380748929;dub;mjoiii: fiber optics 338609;1380748934;pankkake;kakobrekla: yes, unless they're too late 338610;1380748940;dub;so you cant snarf the rf 338611;1380748941;pankkake;$20 webcam + motion = automated shutdown 338612;1380749013;jurov;i was under impression they just subpoenaed colo provider and imaged the machine via network using some 0day 338613;1380749043;mjoiii;they have a library of vulns? 338614;1380749055;jurov;why not? 338615;1380749058;pankkake;there are black markets of vulnerabilities 338616;1380749075;kakobrekla;unfortunatley they have just taken it down! 338617;1380749085;dub;even smalltown pedo LE types have shit to sieze or image running machines 338618;1380749098;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 45001 @ 0.0001813 = 8.1587 BTC [-] {2} 338619;1380749108;pankkake;well it's easy if it's a rented server 338620;1380749135;pankkake;if you rent the bay, maybe you can booby trap it 338621;1380749142;dub;wait, USG shuts down, SR shuts down... 338622;1380749152;pankkake;or simply, host at home. silk road wouldn't require that much bandwith 338623;1380749159;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 15277 @ 0.0001812 = 2.7682 BTC [-] 338624;1380749186;mjoiii;dub, man you're onto something 338625;1380749196;jurov;pankkake, or host from internet cafe 150m away..just to be safe, yeah 338626;1380749205;pankkake;haha 338627;1380749213;dub;ikr, has anyone even seen a chemtrail this week? 338628;1380749220;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.941 = 3.764 BTC [-] 338629;1380749227;mjoiii;wouldn't the idea be to string the various tiers across multiple countries? 338630;1380749239;kakobrekla;also the global temps are down 338631;1380749244;dub;fuuu 338632;1380749255;dub;icecaps refreezing 338633;1380749261;jurov;"idea be to string the various tiers across multiple countries"oh nobody does it, perhaps except me 338634;1380749313;pankkake;well, I'd certainly try to put multiple layers (hehe) of security 338635;1380749327;mjoiii;the only layers seems to be political 338636;1380749329;kakobrekla;lazerz und bombs! 338637;1380749331;pankkake;I wonder if combining tor and i2p is doable 338638;1380749336;mjoiii;i mean that can offer protection 338639;1380749360;pankkake;and then, the physical security 338640;1380749370;pankkake;no passwords, only physical tokens 338641;1380749374;pankkake;self-shutting down 338642;1380749388;mjoiii;dead man switch 338643;1380749401;jurov;female slaves in rack 338644;1380749420;kakobrekla;"oh man a mosquito rm -rfed my silk road for the third time this week!" 338645;1380749468;pankkake;eh, it's better to have 80% uptime that 0% eventually 338646;1380749485;pankkake;also, http://www.lavrsen.dk/twiki/bin/view/Motion/WebHome works very well 338647;1380749503;jurov;sufficiently paranoid sysadmin would never start something like sr 338648;1380749504;pankkake;I use it successfully with a crappy webcam 338649;1380749504;kakobrekla;well seems you are ready to rock 338650;1380749510;kakobrekla;just be sure to leave your gmail here first 338651;1380749513;pankkake;hehe 338652;1380749522;jurov;from that follows we'll never have sufficiently secure sr-like service 338653;1380749527;pankkake;I never ordered from SR, I kept putting it off 338654;1380749547;pankkake;so I don't really have the experience to rewrite the thing 338655;1380749586;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2253 @ 0.00092 = 2.0728 BTC [+] 338656;1380749591;pankkake;I guess a seller would be the most knowledgeable 338657;1380749618;mjoiii;rewrite it to be distributed? 338658;1380749642;jurov;i toyed with idea to hide small solar-powered computer in some place with public wifi 338659;1380749646;pankkake;that doesn't make much sense. who does the escrow? 338660;1380749669;mjoiii;godammit 338661;1380749678;jurov;but i don't really have an use for that 338662;1380749684;mjoiii;can't be somehow shared amongst users? 338663;1380749720;jborkl;it would be easier to hide raspberry pis all over at places with free wifi, no one would ever see them 338664;1380749722;pankkake;jurov: I hope it will be common in the future. even as simple relays 338665;1380749748;pankkake;the hardest is to have both internet and power 338666;1380749782;jurov;or there are public transport buses wit wifi running around.. just hack them for power somehow 338667;1380749793;jborkl;only need 5v 338668;1380749806;jborkl;a android phone charger 338669;1380749807;jurov;but they have cameras inside so not trivial 338670;1380749832;jurov;maybe light fixture can be quickly appropriated 338671;1380749867;mjoiii;power line induction 338672;1380750032;jurov;lol i remembered we were thinking here about installing clandestine miners to trolleybuses 338673;1380750171;dub;had plenty of people suggest hiding miners around the multitude of places I could 338674;1380750401;dub;got ~1.21 jiggaamps of 50vdc lying around 338675;1380750424;dub;but risk 6 figures for another 4 or low 5 338676;1380750429;dub;nothx 338677;1380750440;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.999 = 1.998 BTC [+] 338678;1380750501;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 29976 @ 0.00027346 = 8.1972 BTC [-] {10} 338679;1380750562;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 40025 @ 0.00025498 = 10.2056 BTC [-] {5} 338680;1380750651;mircea_popescu;you're gonna get fired for plugging in your coffee warmer ? 338681;1380750806;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.9755 = 4.8775 BTC [+] {2} 338682;1380750928;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 1.026 = 9.234 BTC [+] 338683;1380751050;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 1.027 = 8.216 BTC [+] 338684;1380751603;pankkake;I don't know why, but when I put bitcoin addresses in DuckDuckGo, I get sec.gov results 338685;1380751904;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.975 BTC [-] 338686;1380751966;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.975 BTC [-] 338687;1380752005;hdheuzbsiwhdb;R.. 338688;1380752026;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.975 = 1.95 BTC [-] 338689;1380752514;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1450 @ 0.00091776 = 1.3308 BTC [-] 338690;1380753105;lolstate;There is now a #neobee IRC channel if anyone you would like to join us 338691;1380753307;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.9775 = 3.91 BTC [+] {2} 338692;1380753307;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 300 @ 0.00950003 = 2.85 BTC [-] {2} 338693;1380753429;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.97195 = 1.9439 BTC [-] {2} 338694;1380753474;dexX7;there is also #asicminer 338695;1380753490;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 0.966 = 6.762 BTC [-] {2} 338696;1380753490;kakobrekla;#amazingcompany 338697;1380753496;dexX7;ha 338698;1380753551;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 28 @ 0.00949677 = 0.2659 BTC [-] {3} 338699;1380753612;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 103 @ 0.00918659 = 0.9462 BTC [-] {6} 338700;1380753734;assbot;[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.0431 = 0.431 BTC [-] {2} 338701;1380753795;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 15000 @ 0.0001812 = 2.718 BTC [-] {4} 338702;1380753917;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 45 @ 0.00909122 = 0.4091 BTC [-] {4} 338703;1380754710;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00091783 = 1.7439 BTC [+] {2} 338704;1380755080;kakobrekla;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=306672.0;topicseen 338705;1380755081;ozbot;Alydian is mining 338706;1380755686;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2159 @ 0.0001811 = 0.391 BTC [-] {2} 338707;1380756174;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 9199 @ 0.0001811 = 1.6659 BTC [-] 338708;1380756232;Vexual;dpr should have used burnsides lawyers 338709;1380756248;Kleeck_;burnside has lawyers? 338710;1380756257;Kleeck_;*RIMSHOT!* 338711;1380756265;Vexual;https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/4647212800/hC495CFC3/ 338712;1380756267;Kleeck_;I'm here all week! 338713;1380756296;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 53 @ 0.00987054 = 0.5231 BTC [-] {3} 338714;1380756344;pankkake;skaters are dumb 338715;1380756357;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 13 @ 0.00994999 = 0.1293 BTC [+] {2} 338716;1380756358;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 600 @ 0.00091758 = 0.5505 BTC [-] {2} 338717;1380756359;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1000 @ 0.0001811 = 0.1811 BTC [-] 338718;1380756359;freshcoin;lol kleeck_ 338719;1380756460;Vexual;paperwallet and hole in the ground associates 338720;1380756556;Diablo-D3;so 338721;1380756569;Diablo-D3;I wonder if its time to launch DMC 2.0 sometime in the next 3 months 338722;1380756601;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2320 @ 0.0001811 = 0.4202 BTC [-] 338723;1380756659;pankkake;http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2013-10-02/ relevant to bitcoin "entrepreneurs" 338724;1380756660;ozbot;Dilbert comic strip for 10/02/2013 from the official Dilbert comic strips archive. 338725;1380756662;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 3400 @ 0.0001811 = 0.6157 BTC [-] 338726;1380757274;Scrat;poor Diablo-D3 338727;1380757279;Scrat;punching bag 338728;1380757286;Diablo-D3;yeah, I think gmaxwell just needs to step down 338729;1380757289;Vexual;http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=14b4ec7 338730;1380757291;ozbot;can i haz skynet 338731;1380757297;Diablo-D3;he no longer represents bitcoin in any useful capacity 338732;1380757640;pankkake;meh 338733;1380757698;Kleeck_;thanks for that freshcoin - the crowd is cold. 338734;1380757778;pankkake;;;bc,stats 338735;1380757780;gribble;Current Blocks: 261362 | Current Difficulty: 1.4881919980509263E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 262079 | Next Difficulty In: 717 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 18 hours, 5 minutes, and 39 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 181354366.452 | Estimated Percent Change: 21.86221 338736;1380757824;pankkake;3 blocks in 1 min by ghash.io 338737;1380757826;pankkake;wait, 4 338738;1380757843;pankkake;no, blockchain.info messing up 338739;1380758064;pankkake;tgs3> gmaxwell: did you just kicked Diablo-D3? wtf? 338740;1380758067;Vexual;yep, thats at 240th 338741;1380758076;pankkake;gmaxwell> tgs3: not the first time, certantly not the last. 338742;1380758090;Vexual;9 second block 338743;1380758101;pankkake;bitcoin is now an altcoin! 338744;1380758127;pankkake;5th ghash.io block! 338745;1380758203;Vexual;now hashrate showing 270 338746;1380758253;kakobrekla;pankkake http://i.imgur.com/6eEXa8P.jpg 338747;1380758273;kakobrekla;ghash.io ^^ 338748;1380758307;pankkake;kakobrekla: time to do the double spend you always wanted to do! 338749;1380758323;kakobrekla;hey i dont run the thing 338750;1380758326;kakobrekla;unfortunatley :) 338751;1380758402;pankkake;http://www.reddit.com/r/SilkRoad/comments/1nl7p9/sr_shutdown_fallout_discussion/ccjl5eg lol 338752;1380758446;kakobrekla;point them to bbet 338753;1380758447;dexX7;they say there were several incarnations of dpr 338754;1380758456;Vexual;http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2012/s3528956.htm 338755;1380758457;dexX7;the bet is flawed 338756;1380758461;dexX7;wrong name, fixed date 338757;1380758465;pankkake;I'd do that, but I have deleted my account again 338758;1380758468;dexX7;only possible outcome: no 338759;1380758472;pankkake;still, try again dexX7 :) 338760;1380758498;dexX7;it's sad though. the bet has potential 338761;1380758517;pankkake;I'm not very happy with the contents of some bets 338762;1380758523;pankkake;especially when mine get refused! 338763;1380758525;Diablo-D3;then dont bet on them 338764;1380758533;kakobrekla;dexX7 maybe it means 'our dear Pirate Roberts' 338765;1380758534;pankkake;of course I don't 338766;1380758551;Diablo-D3;Dread Pirate Roberts 338767;1380758553;Diablo-D3;get it right 338768;1380758569;dexX7;kakobrekla: oh that's a neat interpretation 338769;1380758581;kakobrekla;:) 338770;1380758587;pankkake;but I wish I could bet on more stuff 338771;1380758611;pankkake;http://bitbet.us/bet/533/exchange-currency-volume-to-be-at-least-25/ that bet is stupid, it's actually "CNY exchanges will get listed on bitcoincharts" 338772;1380758615;ozbot;BitBet - Exchange currency volume to be at least 25% CNY before 2014 338773;1380758639;kakobrekla;you kake is stupid 338774;1380758721;Vexual;an imperial fuck tonne of coins might be locked up for a while 338775;1380758727;kakobrekla;pankkake maybe try to talk to mp before submiting it 338776;1380758740;kakobrekla;i think it would vastly improve the odds of acceptance 338777;1380758791;pankkake;I guess. it's not very good to bring new users though 338778;1380758839;kakobrekla;i cant help if people keep submiting silly stuffs 338779;1380758864;kakobrekla;except for maybe making captcha harder 338780;1380758908;pankkake;that captcha is hard, I had to actually think 338781;1380758917;kakobrekla;thats the problem with bbet 338782;1380758920;pankkake;the good part is that it's the same everywhere 338783;1380758933;kakobrekla;you gotta read and think, both 338784;1380758944;kakobrekla;is not what people like to do 338785;1380758949;kakobrekla;reading is slow and thinking hurts 338786;1380758986;kakobrekla;its much less brain intensive to go to JD and press'n'hold L 338787;1380759030;Vexual;ghash.io is everyblock 338788;1380759037;pankkake;given the state of my JD investement, I might try that 338789;1380759071;kakobrekla;o yeah we got 261369 too 338790;1380759091;Vexual;i think maybe nakowra got some hashes there 338791;1380759111;pankkake;would have been more fun without the btcguild one - 6 blocks 338792;1380759137;kakobrekla;anyway pankkake talk to mp, maybe its noob friendly but again its not ment to be 338793;1380759146;kakobrekla;you are in a position where you can do this and i dont see why 338794;1380759163;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 700 @ 0.00091899 = 0.6433 BTC [+] 338795;1380759167;kakobrekla;you wouldnt 338796;1380759170;kakobrekla;. 338797;1380759224;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.00299399 = 2.994 BTC [-] 338798;1380759285;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 489 @ 0.002994 = 1.4641 BTC [+] 338799;1380759407;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 371 @ 0.0029995 = 1.1128 BTC [+] 338800;1380759468;assbot;[BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 525 @ 0.001368 = 0.7182 BTC [+] 338801;1380759529;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.00994997 = 0.398 BTC [-] 338802;1380759651;assbot;[BTCTC] [B] [CIPHERMINE.B1] 84 @ 0.00825 = 0.693 BTC [+] 338803;1380759651;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.0029 = 2.9 BTC [-] {3} 338804;1380760414;dexX7;;;goxlag 338805;1380760415;gribble;MtGox lag is 0.070218 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0001407160858 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin to the other side of the Earth, along the surface (0.0001339 AU). 338806;1380760566;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2050 @ 0.00092 = 1.886 BTC [+] 338807;1380761420;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.PURCHASE] 676 @ 0.0061 = 4.1236 BTC [+] 338808;1380761481;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00091791 = 4.2224 BTC [-] {4} 338809;1380761481;assbot;[BTCTC] [B] [CIPHERMINE.B1] 533 @ 0.00820206 = 4.3717 BTC [-] {2} 338810;1380761603;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 0.12001 BTC [-] 338811;1380761605;assbot;[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 2397 @ 0.00015 = 0.3596 BTC [-] 338812;1380761605;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2100 @ 0.00092058 = 1.9332 BTC [+] {2} 338813;1380761664;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [BTC-GOLD] 153 @ 0.0027 = 0.4131 BTC [+] 338814;1380761673;dexX7;btctalk was defaced? 338815;1380761703;dexX7;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1nme94/bitcointalkorg_forums_hacked_by_the_hole_seekers/ 338816;1380761704;ozbot;Bitcointalk.org forums hacked by "The Hole Seekers" : Bitcoin 338817;1380761908;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 0.12 BTC [-] 338818;1380761940;mod6;haha 338819;1380762602;dexX7;https://mega.co.nz/#!tl81GQDb!FnUb2i1KuqInQ4tNGqn1p1tGypIXJDh8aPv-Sld7VEw this is hilarious :D 338820;1380762604;ozbot;MEGA 338821;1380762701;assbot;[BTCTC] [B] [CIPHERMINE.B1] 124 @ 0.0082 = 1.0168 BTC [-] 338822;1380762823;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.PURCHASE] 20 @ 0.006107 = 0.1221 BTC [+] 338823;1380762945;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1050 @ 0.00091938 = 0.9653 BTC [-] 338824;1380763006;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 254 @ 0.00493067 = 1.2524 BTC [+] {4} 338825;1380763015;Vexual;http://toolongdidntread.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Screen-Shot-2013-01-25-at-9.32.00-AM-1024x572.png this is hilarious 338826;1380763067;assbot;[BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 254 @ 0.00118392 = 0.3007 BTC [-] {5} 338827;1380763250;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.PURCHASE] 100 @ 0.0061 = 0.61 BTC [-] 338828;1380763385;afrotec;Fuckin hole seekers 338829;1380763404;afrotec;Or whatever the fucj 338830;1380763770;pankkake;hole suckers 338831;1380763781;dexX7;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T-VYiTs34s yt mirror 338832;1380763782;ozbot;bitcointalk.org defaced - 10th Birthday of 4chan, DPR busted & Breaking Bad season finale? - YouTube 338833;1380763878;pankkake;oh well. I'm glad I submitted my bet with 0 fee 338834;1380763887;pankkake;this is just too annoying of a process 338835;1380763891;Vexual;which bet? 338836;1380763910;pankkake;"PeerCoin to rise above 0.004 BTC before 2014" 338837;1380763921;pankkake;copied from the (accepted) litecoin bet 338838;1380763942;Vexual;litecoin, the original laundrycoin 338839;1380764068;pankkake;if only fractal wasn't just a wanker 338840;1380764119;Vexual;whats a fractal? 338841;1380764134;pankkake;a guy with a tiny penis 338842;1380764187;Vexual;made up of tinier penises? 338843;1380764194;pankkake;probably 338844;1380764201;Vexual;far out man 338845;1380764436;pankkake;http://www.dailydot.com/crime/deep-web-silk-road-black-market-reloaded-future/ 338846;1380764436;ozbot;The Daily Dot - This is not the end of the Deep Web 338847;1380764561;Vexual;The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it. 338848;1380764790;Vexual;meanwhile the dea has so much info they will have to use some of dprs coins to build some new prisons 338849;1380764823;pankkake;that will teach people to use gpg 338850;1380764844;pankkake;and they probably spend that much coins in an hour 338851;1380764869;Vexual;and laundrycoin 338852;1380765072;Vexual;blockchain.info throttles their taint analysis to make it seem their mixing service works 338853;1380765121;thestringpuller;tom clancy just diiiiied 338854;1380765123;thestringpuller;WTF 338855;1380765143;pankkake;everything going to shit 338856;1380765324;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1962 @ 0.00091967 = 1.8044 BTC [+] {2} 338857;1380765385;assbot;[BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 308 @ 0.00136619 = 0.4208 BTC [+] {2} 338858;1380765389;kakobrekla;lol what Vexual? 338859;1380765427;Vexual;yah 338860;1380765446;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00299949 = 0.15 BTC [+] {2} 338861;1380765447;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 361 @ 0.00538192 = 1.9429 BTC [+] {2} 338862;1380765447;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.998 = 5.988 BTC [+] 338863;1380765697;Vexual;bloackchain gonna be in the courts like so much dna 338864;1380765963;Vexual;and for those that like irony 338865;1380765972;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CC5ApU4YKBU 338866;1380765973;ozbot;Dr. Kary Mullis about LSD - VOSTFR - YouTube 338867;1380766239;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3241 @ 0.00092512 = 2.9983 BTC [+] {3} 338868;1380766377;VanCleef;blockchain.info down, just had a video pop up of Chris Hansen telling me to take a seat while the fbi arrives 338869;1380766388;Vexual;lol 338870;1380766483;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 12 @ 0.96250833 = 11.5501 BTC [-] {4} 338871;1380766788;assbot;[BTCTC] [B] [CIPHERMINE.B1] 16 @ 0.0082625 = 0.1322 BTC [+] {2} 338872;1380766953;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXRqH0EBRks 338873;1380766954;ozbot;Cheech And Chong- Trippin in court - YouTube 338874;1380767109;dexX7;message from burnside via btct/am: I'll process the divs soon as bitcoin talk is back and I can verify the proper payout amounts. Sorry about the delay. 338875;1380767137;Diablo-D3;heh Im lucky 338876;1380767142;Diablo-D3;I already processed divs for DMC =P 338877;1380767642;Vexual;burnside might want another checksum 338878;1380768069;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 4156 @ 0.0001815 = 0.7543 BTC [-] 338879;1380769697;kakobrekla;some massive buying going on 338880;1380769788;dub;clearly not weed buying 338881;1380769794;Vexual;where? 338882;1380769811;kakobrekla;100k in last 1h or some shit 338883;1380769816;kakobrekla;100k btc 338884;1380769819;kakobrekla;gox 338885;1380769824;Diablo-D3;;;ticker 338886;1380769825;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 127.60000, Best ask: 128.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.40000, Last trade: 128.00000, 24 hour volume: 115573.68751632, 24 hour low: 109.70000, 24 hour high: 141.88999, 24 hour vwap: 124.62956 338887;1380769834;Diablo-D3;not effecting the price yet 338888;1380769877;kakobrekla;hm 338889;1380769889;kakobrekla;nevemind that 338890;1380769896;kakobrekla;some bug in moody it seems 338891;1380769916;Diablo-D3;heh 338892;1380769921;kakobrekla;was just stuck in buy mode 338893;1380769938;Vexual;i wouldn't have been surprised 338894;1380769944;dub;was gonna say 338895;1380769964;dub;showing 1.25k in the last 15 minute candle but not much else 338896;1380769975;kakobrekla;yes 338897;1380769984;kakobrekla;was showing 100k to me before f5 338898;1380769999;dub;nothing compared to the selloff earlier 338899;1380770012;thestringpuller;NNEVA EVA 338900;1380770014;thestringpuller;NEVA EVA 338901;1380770015;kakobrekla;no, the sellof bars were getting smaller 338902;1380770023;kakobrekla;as the buy bar was rising 338903;1380770046;thestringpuller;!last m s.mpoe 338904;1380770046;assbot;Last trade for S.MPOE on MPEX was at 0.00092512 BTC [+] 338905;1380770053;thestringpuller;it returns 338906;1380770059;thestringpuller;kakobrekla why do you charge so much? 338907;1380770068;kakobrekla;what? 338908;1380770073;thestringpuller;what do you even do besides tell that's what she said jokes :P 338909;1380770077;thestringpuller;write me some stand up 338910;1380770081;dub;speaking of bar rising 338911;1380770090;dub;hottie in meeting I just got out of 338912;1380770096;thestringpuller;THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID 338913;1380770103;Vexual;aint no joke 338914;1380770121;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qimiWfZAtXw 338915;1380770122;ozbot;Wiley | Heatwave feat. Ms.D (Official Video) - YouTube 338916;1380770131;thestringpuller;Heatwave the 70's band? 338917;1380770133;dub;aint no fun when the homies cant have none 338918;1380770143;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 850 @ 0.00092599 = 0.7871 BTC [+] {2} 338919;1380770154;thestringpuller;you ain't gotta like it 338920;1380770158;thestringpuller;but the hood gon' love it 338921;1380770247;kakobrekla;i dont like that song 338922;1380770257;thestringpuller;why not? 338923;1380770261;thestringpuller;cause you're not hood enough?!? 338924;1380770268;thestringpuller;I thought you was certified gangsta kakobrekla 338925;1380770270;kakobrekla;that may be the case 338926;1380770285;kakobrekla;if gangsta means crap music than im out yea 338927;1380770294;Vexual;:) 338928;1380770332;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBDIMkE3Qeg 338929;1380770333;ozbot;Snoop Dogg - Pimp Slapp'd (Suge Knight Diss) - YouTube 338930;1380770387;Diablo-D3;;;calc 26000 * [[ticker --last]] 338931;1380770388;gribble;Error: "129.25000" is not a valid command. 338932;1380770394;Diablo-D3;;;calc 26000 * [ticker --last] 338933;1380770395;gribble;3360500 338934;1380770669;dub;dafuq 338935;1380770698;dub;some dickery on the order book 338936;1380770755;Vexual;just a earthquake, relax 338937;1380770770;dub;assquake 338938;1380770853;VanCleef;kakobrekla has a tatto of lil wayne and drake making out on his back 338939;1380770861;VanCleef;that's pretty gangsta 338940;1380770876;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnUO8hK8VKA 338941;1380770877;ozbot;Wild N Out- Redman best diss ever on Wildstyle - YouTube 338942;1380770930;kakobrekla;what is drake? 338943;1380770932;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uw7xkvc1RlI 338944;1380770932;ozbot;Cypress Hill ft Redman and Methodman - Red, Meth & B (Stoned Raiders) (lyrics) - YouTube 338945;1380770962;Vexual;shit up a storm 338946;1380770966;VanCleef;hotness 338947;1380771119;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1529 @ 0.00092621 = 1.4162 BTC [+] 338948;1380771160;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9VQye6P8k0 338949;1380771161;ozbot;Patience - YouTube 338950;1380771208;VanCleef;yeh sick video 338951;1380771212;VanCleef;naaaaas 338952;1380771262;VanCleef;my fav hiphop video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MBaEEODzU0 338953;1380771302;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1107 @ 0.00092167 = 1.0203 BTC [-] 338954;1380771468;Vexual;im horny as a motherfucker lol 338955;1380771502;VanCleef;"you aint driving miss daisy nigga shieeet" 338956;1380771579;Vexual;mp limo comin soon 338957;1380771687;Vexual;there he is 338958;1380771697;VanCleef;this guy reminds me of MP 338959;1380771714;Vexual;shit sounds like a train from the future 338960;1380771719;VanCleef;like if he was on some really bad acid 338961;1380771731;Vexual;i dont think mp needs acid 338962;1380771805;Vexual;yeah its a funny video, but the beat is kinda useless 338963;1380771881;VanCleef;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWUMSPekHBE 338964;1380771881;ozbot;Nate Dogg - I Got Love - YouTube 338965;1380771889;VanCleef;video is so boss 338966;1380771922;Vexual;nice beat 338967;1380772004;Vexual;pass the dutchie 338968;1380772040;VanCleef;dat flute 338969;1380772047;Vexual;flutarific 338970;1380772088;VanCleef;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UB5hZUvNiVk 338971;1380772089;ozbot;Scarface - Mary Jane - YouTube 338972;1380772095;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 550 @ 0.00092088 = 0.5065 BTC [-] 338973;1380772167;Vexual;dont stop the funk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiNgz6KDD2k 338974;1380772342;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NF-kLy44Hls 338975;1380772342;ozbot;Daft Punk - Lose Yourself to Dance (Official Version) - YouTube 338976;1380772515;kakobrekla;ah new daft punk album 338977;1380772524;kakobrekla;i only like one song the rest is meh 338978;1380772542;kakobrekla;and even this is cause of spoken word 338979;1380772582;Vexual;whats that kracken? 338980;1380772592;Vexual;play it 338981;1380772608;kakobrekla;hm? 338982;1380772612;Vexual;the song 338983;1380772633;kakobrekla;what about which song 338984;1380772644;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00091783 = 0.9178 BTC [-] {2} 338985;1380772644;Vexual;the one song u like, u gonna play it? 338986;1380772665;kakobrekla;;;google youtube giorgio by moroder 338987;1380772666;gribble;Daft Punk - Giorgio By Moroder - YouTube: ; Daft Punk - Giorgio By Moroder - YouTube: ; Giorgio Moroder - YouTube: 338988;1380772676;kakobrekla;thar 338989;1380772713;Vexual;ty 338990;1380772716;kakobrekla;bad quality 338991;1380772717;kakobrekla;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8By8Rm81Tc 338992;1380772718;ozbot;Daft Punk - Giorgio By Moroder - YouTube 338993;1380772721;kakobrekla;this one is better 338994;1380772727;kakobrekla;jewtube sucks 338995;1380772730;Vexual;ok 338996;1380772769;Vexual;i dont think i know this song b4 338997;1380772790;Vexual;is quite funky no? 338998;1380772803;kakobrekla;electro popy 338999;1380772811;kakobrekla;electro pop is (Y) 339000;1380772816;Vexual;my mouth goes ooo 339001;1380772961;Vexual;because i got to 339002;1380772997;Vexual;now jazz 339003;1380773005;Vexual;oh no oh yes 339004;1380773034;VanCleef;jewtube and jewbook 339005;1380773057;Vexual;this is why europe is best rope 339006;1380773235;Vexual;so many forgotten house tracks, and so many of them emorable 339007;1380773284;Vexual;le roland 339008;1380773294;Vexual;manufique 339009;1380773304;thestringpuller;10 DOOBIES TO THE FACE NIGGA FUCK DAT 339010;1380773314;thestringpuller;jazz is the greatest genre of all time 339011;1380773321;thestringpuller;cause murica is da beeeestest 339012;1380773376;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.00978999 = 0.3916 BTC [+] 339013;1380773550;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmDDOFXSgAs 339014;1380773550;ozbot;Dave Brubeck - Take Five - YouTube 339015;1380773742;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2850 @ 0.00091611 = 2.6109 BTC [-] {3} 339016;1380773925;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 755 @ 0.00091352 = 0.6897 BTC [-] 339017;1380774339;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2K-tENbs2Q 339018;1380774340;ozbot;Armand Van Helden feat. Tara McDonald - My My My - YouTube 339019;1380774596;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 800 @ 0.00092088 = 0.7367 BTC [+] 339020;1380774618;Vexual;wake up mircea 339021;1380774788;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3L4spg8vyo 339022;1380774789;ozbot;Eric Clapton- Cocaine - YouTube 339023;1380775024;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JskztPPSJwY 339024;1380775025;ozbot;L. A. Woman - The Doors - YouTube 339025;1380775389;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 170 @ 0.00092088 = 0.1565 BTC [+] 339026;1380775593;bloctoc;is there a way to bloc Vexual from my internet? 339027;1380775695;Vexual;you can pay your dues like the others do 339028;1380775753;Vexual;(im just mp crew) 339029;1380776005;dub;bloctoc: hit up SR for a contract killing 339030;1380776015;Vexual;careful now dub 339031;1380776115;bloctoc;unfortunately I hit up Ross Ulbricht for some bitcoins a couple of months ago at the buttonwood meetup. I sent my name and address to his gmail account. Waiting for a knock on the door any minute... 339032;1380776148;dub;ouch 339033;1380776165;bloctoc;I never even heard of SR until just now when you brought it up. 339034;1380776291;Vexual;better call saul 339035;1380776332;phish;there's nothign illegal about buying bitcoins 339036;1380776572;bloctoc;phish then I guess I'm good. see all y'all at buttonwood on Thursday 339037;1380776577;Vexual;no but if you've bheen naughty its really time to lawyer up, sorry to be the bearer of bad news 339038;1380776661;phish;if they do knock on yoru door, just ask for a lawyer as vex said ;) 339039;1380776727;Vexual;yeah but when you're in custody they dont let you google to find the best dude 339040;1380776855;bloctoc;so, saul is the best dude? 339041;1380777016;Vexual;luke jr unaffected 339042;1380777143;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAVhKjsImeI 339043;1380777143;ozbot;Born On The Bayou - Creedence Clearwater Revival - YouTube 339044;1380777342;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.95 = 1.9 BTC [-] 339045;1380777509;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qm8ClRnVxtE 339046;1380777510;ozbot;stereo mcs- connected - YouTube 339047;1380777585;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.95013333 = 2.8504 BTC [+] {2} 339048;1380777646;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 16 @ 0.96335624 = 15.4137 BTC [+] {4} 339049;1380777707;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 19 @ 0.9611 = 18.2609 BTC [-] 339050;1380777799;Vexual;guten morgan smidge, im audi 339051;1380777827;Vexual;ciao 339052;1380778012;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 580 @ 0.00092132 = 0.5344 BTC [+] 339053;1380778195;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 32 @ 0.00538293 = 0.1723 BTC [+] {2} 339054;1380778221;smidge;hi 339055;1380778222;smidge;:) 339056;1380778378;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.PURCHASE] 100 @ 0.006781 = 0.6781 BTC [+] 339057;1380778439;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.PURCHASE] 100 @ 0.006781 = 0.6781 BTC [+] 339058;1380778561;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 920 @ 0.00091655 = 0.8432 BTC [-] 339059;1380778743;bloctoc;I hope the next silk road only takes ripple (XRP) since it's so fast clearing transactions 339060;1380779720;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2473 @ 0.00092578 = 2.2895 BTC [+] {3} 339061;1380779842;assbot;[BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 445 @ 0.001368 = 0.6088 BTC [-] 339062;1380781658;bgupta;any word on why bitcointalk has been down for an extended period? 339063;1380781672;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00092771 = 1.3916 BTC [+] 339064;1380781684;Diablo-D3;bgupta: check your email 339065;1380781774;bgupta;Diablo-D3: nothing related. 339066;1380781850;bgupta;nvm. found this https://twitter.com/bitcointalk 339067;1380781951;bgupta;and http://cryptolife.net/bitcointalk-hacked/ 339068;1380781996;Diablo-D3;bgupta: you might not have gotten it yet 339069;1380782001;Diablo-D3;but there was a break in 339070;1380782013;Diablo-D3;and a reminder to change your password when it gets back 339071;1380782051;bgupta;does the email indicate how much longer it will be down? 339072;1380782109;Diablo-D3;no. 339073;1380782373;Diablo-D3;https://medium.com/i-m-h-o/85dc5cccf8c6 339074;1380782404;assbot;[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 50 @ 0.04345 = 2.1725 BTC [+] 339075;1380782982;thestringpuller;The consultant 339076;1380782996;thestringpuller;Diablo-D3: what do you even do where is the 1 billion dollar plan you were enacting 339077;1380783003;thestringpuller;/trolltrolltroll 339078;1380783061;Diablo-D3;thestringpuller: trying to secure funding for it. 339079;1380783353;mircea_popescu;dude bitcoin was totally dependent on sr. har har. 339080;1380783447;Diablo-D3;thestringpuller: Im actually thinking about doing this bottom up instead of top down 339081;1380783807;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 490 @ 0.005383 = 2.6377 BTC [+] 339082;1380783929;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 31 @ 0.005384 = 0.1669 BTC [+] 339083;1380783990;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 7400 @ 0.00020279 = 1.5006 BTC [+] {7} 339084;1380784051;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 600 @ 0.0002185 = 0.1311 BTC [+] 339085;1380784051;assbot;[BTCTC] [KENILWORTH] 170 @ 0.00135 = 0.2295 BTC [-] 339086;1380784124;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/smg-september-2013-statement/ 339087;1380784125;ozbot;S.MG, September 2013 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 339088;1380784478;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 89 @ 0.0099 = 0.8811 BTC [+] 339089;1380787955;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00092419 = 2.5877 BTC [-] {2} 339090;1380788221;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/i-was-right-you-were-wrong-again-feel-the-burn/ 339091;1380788221;ozbot;I was right, you were wrong. Again. Feel the burn. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 339092;1380788870;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 990 @ 0.00092443 = 0.9152 BTC [+] 339093;1380789114;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 400 @ 0.005384 = 2.1536 BTC [+] 339094;1380789339;mircea_popescu;o hey, retardstalk got owned ? 339095;1380789418;ColdHardMetal;that's the word on the street. 339096;1380789463;mircea_popescu;i thought you had admin there ? wha happened ? 339097;1380789484;ColdHardMetal;who? me? no. 339098;1380789524;mircea_popescu;a ok. 339099;1380789537;mircea_popescu;weak avatar uploading script it seems. 339100;1380789566;ColdHardMetal;something like that. they were talking about it on reddit. 339101;1380789653;phish;.d 339102;1380789661;ozbot;148819199.80509 | Next Diff in 641 blocks | Estimated Change: 22.8042% in 3d 10h 25m 11s 339103;1380789713;mircea_popescu;"Update: It's unfortunately worse than I thought. There's a good chance that the attacker(s) could have executed arbitrary PHP code and therefore could have accessed the database, but I'm not sure yet how difficult this would be. I'm sending out a mass mailing to all Forum users about this." 339104;1380789715;mircea_popescu;herp. 339105;1380789768;mircea_popescu;Figuring out the specifics is probably beyond my skills, so 50 BTC to the first person who tells me how this was done. (You have to convince me that your flaw was the one actually used.) The forum won't go back up until I know how this was done, so it could be down for a while. 339106;1380789776;dub;i hope they deleted the data and phantomcircuit was handling backups 339107;1380789777;mircea_popescu;i guess this is for the best. 339108;1380790034;VanCleef;i hope everything was salted 339109;1380790075;mircea_popescu;passwords were apparently reasonably secure. nothing else obviously. i guess i'll get spam about buying btctalk pms now on top of everythinfg else. 339110;1380790323;VanCleef;useless pricks 339111;1380790356;mircea_popescu;funny thing is there was like what, 10k btc in the "donations to improve forum" stash 339112;1380790601;jurov;https://ia601904.us.archive.org/1/items/gov.uscourts.mdd.238311/gov.uscourts.mdd.238311.4.0.pdf if i read this correctly, feds hooked DPR to ask for murder? 339113;1380790679;mircea_popescu;jurov you saw original complaint ? 339114;1380790680;San1ty;Hello 339115;1380790686;San1ty;wow btc-talk offline? 339116;1380790686;mircea_popescu;(the one this is superseeding) 339117;1380790691;mircea_popescu;San1ty haxed. 339118;1380790696;mircea_popescu;won't be back for a while. 339119;1380790710;San1ty;mircea_popescu: Wow, for a while? Not so easy to fix? 339120;1380790711;jurov;yes and here it is said straightly that the UC (undercover capacity) sent him fake photo of the murder 339121;1380790731;mircea_popescu;theymos is suspicious or something 339122;1380790740;mircea_popescu;jurov o yeah ?! 339123;1380790745;mircea_popescu;haha the plot thickens. 339124;1380790764;mircea_popescu;i wonder why go about it in this strange manner. 339125;1380790770;Apocalyptic; yes and here it is said straightly that the UC (undercover capacity) sent him fake photo of the murder // wtf 339126;1380790801;jurov;Apocalyptic: https://ia601904.us.archive.org/1/items/gov.uscourts.mdd.238311/gov.uscourts.mdd.238311.4.0.pdf 339127;1380790816;Apocalyptic;downloading now, seems farfetched to me 339128;1380790834;jurov;hardly, they elaborate on whole process 339129;1380790834;mircea_popescu;so did the first guy that drafted the first ocmplaint not know about this ? 339130;1380790839;jurov;seems so 339131;1380790841;mircea_popescu;as in, fbi AND dea were doing it ? 339132;1380790843;mircea_popescu;haha poor guy. 339133;1380790892;jurov;inception 339134;1380790922;mircea_popescu;he's fucked, basically. he will ge consecutive life terms, and he'll serve it in the high security ward 339135;1380790928;mircea_popescu;ie, with all the ACTUAL drug lords. 339136;1380790954;VanCleef;no he wont 339137;1380790964;VanCleef;he will cut a deal and snitch on everyone 339138;1380791066;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00028849 = 0.2885 BTC [+] 339139;1380791110;truffles;soo is entrapment legal everywhere? 339140;1380791134;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/bitbet-september-2013-statement/ 339141;1380791135;ozbot;BitBet, September 2013 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 339142;1380791136;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla ^ 339143;1380791141;mircea_popescu;VanCleef deal to what ? 339144;1380791162;mircea_popescu;nah, im affraid they're making an example of him. 339145;1380791172;mircea_popescu;remember that kid that killed himself over whatever downloads ? 339146;1380791303;jurov;mircea_popescu and did you pay mpoe divs already? i saw nothing 339147;1380791323;mircea_popescu;not yet no. 339148;1380791380;mircea_popescu;it's getting done this week. 339149;1380791432;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 120 @ 0.001214 = 0.1457 BTC [+] 339150;1380791434;San1ty;did anyone already get a notification from TaT about their neobee transfer? 339151;1380791462;mircea_popescu;nice find that indictment jurov. basically in the spring of 2013 silkroad was struggling to push 1kg of coke, 339152;1380791470;mircea_popescu;to the degree they ended up buying it themselves. 339153;1380791477;mircea_popescu;fucking ridiculous. 339154;1380791615;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 310 @ 0.00092443 = 0.2866 BTC [+] 339155;1380792024;jurov;imagine if it comes out that large part of sr volume was between various TLAs 339156;1380792046;mircea_popescu;seems likely at this point. 339157;1380792057;mircea_popescu;fbi made > 100 purchases of dea stuff 339158;1380792089;mircea_popescu;anyway, i updated my article from yest. the entire lulz angle isn't quite as adequate nao. 339159;1380792236;mircea_popescu;holy shit HE WIRED MONEY 339160;1380792240;mircea_popescu;omfg. 339161;1380792264;mircea_popescu;this kid wired 40k usd to a capital one account in payment for a murder for hire to some guy he met on the internet 339162;1380792300;mircea_popescu;i need the rest of the day off here. 339163;1380792308;Apocalyptic;o;g 339164;1380792312;Apocalyptic;unreal 339165;1380792323;Apocalyptic;kid was a fucking joke 339166;1380792350;truffles;sometimes (many times) nerds lack the common sense u know 339167;1380792379;VanCleef;lol 339168;1380792835;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.95 BTC [-] 339169;1380793262;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.9614 BTC [+] 339170;1380793384;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.9613 = 3.8452 BTC [-] 339171;1380793384;assbot;[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.04353 = 0.1306 BTC [+] 339172;1380793567;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2429 @ 0.00018705 = 0.4543 BTC [-] {2} 339173;1380793628;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 7571 @ 0.00018248 = 1.3816 BTC [-] {4} 339174;1380794482;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 200 @ 0.00123499 = 0.247 BTC [+] {3} 339175;1380794543;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 884 @ 0.00126079 = 1.1145 BTC [+] {3} 339176;1380795946;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00092762 = 2.4118 BTC [+] 339177;1380796190;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 707 @ 0.001217 = 0.8604 BTC [-] 339178;1380796293;dexX7;btctalk bounty still unclaimed? 339179;1380796299;dexX7;those guys are hillarious 339180;1380796305;dexX7;"special message from satoshi" -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2meowzEwIdw 339181;1380796922;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 157 @ 0.01 = 1.57 BTC [+] {2} 339182;1380796983;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 667 @ 0.001217 = 0.8117 BTC [-] 339183;1380797533;mod6;;;bc,stats 339184;1380797536;gribble;Current Blocks: 261454 | Current Difficulty: 1.4881919980509263E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 262079 | Next Difficulty In: 625 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 5 hours, 19 minutes, and 10 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 182871611.889 | Estimated Percent Change: 22.88173 339185;1380798203;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00092762 = 1.7625 BTC [+] 339186;1380798691;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.0009296 = 4.741 BTC [+] {3} 339187;1380800582;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 845 @ 0.0009305 = 0.7863 BTC [+] 339188;1380801619;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69348300 BTC to 1`386`966 shares, 50 satoshi per share 339189;1380801802;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5299 @ 0.00092762 = 4.9155 BTC [-] 339190;1380801811;kleeck;http://www.nbcnews.com/video/nbc-news/53166048/#53170418 339191;1380801814;ozbot;Raw: Suspect beats up 75-year-old man - Video on NBCNews.com 339192;1380801838;kleeck;WTF ozbot? That's not the content. 339193;1380802183;josh16;mircea_popescu why didn't the price crash like a motherfucker, what do you think? 339194;1380802412;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.96 BTC [+] 339195;1380802473;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.0009305 = 3.9081 BTC [+] 339196;1380802798;josh16;cause SR was <5% of the Bitcoin economy? 339197;1380802871;VanCleef;80% of all bitcoin buying demand 339198;1380802900;gecko_x2;bitcointalk down? 339199;1380802912;dexX7;www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T-VYiTs34s << 339200;1380802927;Graet;http://cryptolife.net/bitcointalk-hacked/ 339201;1380802929;dexX7;+ http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1nmdq4/bitcointalk_hacked/ccjyjti 339202;1380802974;gecko_x2;lol dexX7 339203;1380802976;gecko_x2;thx 339204;1380802986;gecko_x2;hehehe 339205;1380803077;gecko_x2;lol this vid 339206;1380803937;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.0009305 = 3.4429 BTC [+] 339207;1380804486;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 29 @ 0.91976963 = 26.6733 BTC [-] {10} 339208;1380805385;deadweasel;lol Graet, the question is, how many times has it already happened? 339209;1380806857;Graet;bitcointalk hacked? this is about the 3rd time i remember 339210;1380806872;nubbins`;hi 339211;1380806880;Graet;funny how a decentralised currency relies so heavily on 1 forum :P 339212;1380806898;nubbins`;hey, there's reddit 339213;1380806899;nubbins`;;p 339214;1380806926;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 16 @ 0.8983846 = 14.3742 BTC [-] {4} 339215;1380807031;nubbins`;anyway, death of tom clancy is obv related to both btctalk being down and dpr derping himself into custody 339216;1380807048;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 66 @ 0.00978546 = 0.6458 BTC [-] {9} 339217;1380807049;kleeck;also the Tattis. 339218;1380807052;kleeck;and Armond 339219;1380807058;kleeck;and Nefario 339220;1380807103;kleeck;and, of course, 9/11 which is tied to the Holocaust. 339221;1380807118;dexX7;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2meowzEwIdw 339222;1380807122;ozbot;Meteors Destroy Big Ben - YouTube 339223;1380807148;dexX7;it is all connected >D 339224;1380807163;kleeck;lol 339225;1380807168;kleeck;favorite comment, "fake" 339226;1380807190;kleeck;Meteorite deniers are the worst. 339227;1380807196;dexX7;that's "the special message from satoshi" to the btctalk users :S 339228;1380807416;nubbins`;lel 339229;1380807418;nubbins`;obv fake! 339230;1380807467;nubbins`;considering opening a site called the Milk Road 339231;1380807477;nubbins`;where vendors sell molokosynthemesc 339232;1380807483;nubbins`;and related substances 339233;1380807902;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 80 @ 0.00959075 = 0.7673 BTC [-] {4} 339234;1380808186;VanCleef;Tom Clancy new book was on SR 339235;1380809034;thestringpuller;I can't believe DPR was operation out of the US 339236;1380809035;thestringpuller;so dumb 339237;1380809305;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SMG] 757 @ 0.00019786 = 0.1498 BTC [+] {2} 339238;1380809440;Rawted;lol im just reading about it too. 339239;1380809446;Rawted;]he sure talked a big game 339240;1380809451;Rawted;bitcoiners, meh 339241;1380809512;nubbins`;heh 339242;1380809529;nubbins`;heavy lels when i read that his $80k "clean hit" was staged by the feds 339243;1380809537;nubbins`;what a fucking dummy 339244;1380809549;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4719 @ 0.00092691 = 4.3741 BTC [-] {2} 339245;1380809578;Rawted;lol ya 339246;1380809584;nubbins`;and so hubris and vainglory became his undoing 339247;1380809589;nubbins`;real libertarian hero 339248;1380809602;nubbins`;ordering beatings and assassinations 339249;1380809604;Rawted;and on top of the murder for hire, this dumbass then buys a few dozen fake ids from the guy doing the hit, and bam, they can now match his known picture with the one used for the IDs 339250;1380809620;nubbins`;yeah 339251;1380809624;nubbins`;getting shit mailed to his house 339252;1380809628;Rawted;and in the end, he was just some holier than thou hipster 339253;1380809629;nubbins`;like... 339254;1380809636;Rawted;its amusing 339255;1380809641;nubbins`;half the people buying on SR took more precautions than he did 339256;1380809666;jcpham;i think it's funny because the criminal is being criticized by criminals 339257;1380809681;nubbins`;everybody is a criminal 339258;1380809687;nubbins`;you, me, everyone 339259;1380809699;jcpham;i'm not disagreeing 339260;1380809714;nubbins`;well, who else would he be criticized by? there's nobody left 339261;1380809741;jcpham;what is crime? 339262;1380809766;nubbins`;what is reality? 339263;1380809769;Rawted;wow, he ssh'd directly into the site to admin it from a internet cafe 339264;1380809770;Rawted;lmao 339265;1380809792;Rawted;let's see $16/btc again please 339266;1380809801;jcpham;these labcoin explanation threads on reddit are also funny 339267;1380809801;nubbins`;wishful thinking 339268;1380809807;kakobrekla;>Well at least BitBet did better than BTCtalk and Silk Road this month. I blame the Somalian. 339269;1380809811;kakobrekla;im fucked till i die. 339270;1380809814;nubbins`;the price of BTC dipped for what, a couple hours? 339271;1380809876;Rawted;the whales can only hold the market up for so long 339272;1380809883;nubbins`;UH. 339273;1380809886;nubbins`;havelock: 339274;1380809888;nubbins`;There are insufficient funds in the Hot Wallet to process your withdraw. The site operators have been notified of your request and will move Bitcoins from Cold Storage. Please try your withdraw again after 1 full business day. 339275;1380809900;Rawted;everyone cashing out 339276;1380809916;nubbins`;fffffff.... 339277;1380809931;nubbins`;never trust another human with your money 339278;1380810441;nubbins`;"I have gone through the mental exercise of spending a lifetime in prison and of dying for this cause. I have let the fear pass through me and with clarity commit myself fully to the mission and values outlined in the Silk Road charter." 339279;1380810442;nubbins`;lel 339280;1380810498;nubbins`;don't worry guys, he THOUGHT about spending 60 years in jail and decided it's no biggie 339281;1380810558;kakobrekla;where is that from nubbins` 339282;1380810590;nubbins`;http://www.activistpost.com/2013/09/virtual-black-market-atlantis-walks.html 339283;1380810591;ozbot;Activist Post: Virtual black market Atlantis walks the plank, Dread Pirate Roberts humbled 339284;1380810614;nubbins`;that was from like 2 weeks ago 339285;1380810624;kakobrekla;ah 339286;1380810629;kakobrekla;k 339287;1380810648;nubbins`;would be interesting to see if he still holds those beliefs 339288;1380810690;Rulother;strange seeing havelock out number btct in trades 339289;1380810743;nubbins`;strange seeing them run out of BTC to cover withdrawals too 339290;1380810815;Rawted;btct is shutting down, no? 339291;1380810823;nubbins`;yes 339292;1380810826;nubbins`;oct 7? 339293;1380810853;Rawted;lots of bad stuff happening to btc 339294;1380810860;nubbins`;man. i called my bank today to see about opening a safety deposit box 339295;1380810862;nubbins`;they said 339296;1380810866;nubbins`;and i'm not shitting you 339297;1380810873;nubbins`;that they couldn't open the box that has all their keys in it 339298;1380810884;nubbins`;and so i'd have to wait until monday 339299;1380810886;Rawted;lol 339300;1380810909;nubbins`;"so safe that not even YOU can access it" 339301;1380810922;kakobrekla;'t 339302;1380810987;nubbins`;;;seen chaangnoi 339303;1380810987;gribble;chaangnoi was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 days, 15 hours, 42 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: sorry for double post i fail at irc 339304;1380810996;nubbins`;;;seen chaang-noi 339305;1380810997;gribble;chaang-noi was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 5 days, 22 hours, 14 minutes, and 43 seconds ago: TOM FORD 339306;1380811440;asciilifeform;http://techliberation.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/SilkRoadProtectiveOrder.pdf 339307;1380811582;Namworld;lol 339308;1380811595;Namworld;SR, now Bitcointalk.org 339309;1380811755;VanCleef;gov is going through everyones messages and pm's n that 339310;1380811764;VanCleef;should we be worried? 339311;1380811789;VanCleef;or are they just looking for people who used sr? 339312;1380811832;zoinky;? 339313;1380811841;zoinky;what makes you say that 339314;1380812294;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1587 @ 0.00127999 = 2.0313 BTC [+] {2} 339315;1380812355;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 22 @ 0.85 = 18.7 BTC [-] 339316;1380812407;deadweasel;messages were supposedly deleted after 30 days 339317;1380812426;deadweasel;so if you didn't use cleartext for the couple months before they got it, you should be ok. 339318;1380813097;taub;3.6 million in bit coins that was held in escrow 339319;1380813108;taub;so the us gov just got 1/7th of all bitcoins? 339320;1380813165;Namworld;Bitcointalk.org will be back 339321;1380813200;Graet;yep, got eta tho? 339322;1380813277;zoinky;taub, they have 3.6 million USD worth of bitcoin 339323;1380813381;Namworld;btct.co isn't available either, lol 339324;1380813398;Rulother;I can use btct 339325;1380813428;Namworld;I get "Error: 339326;1380813428;Namworld;Xcoind backend failure at 135 339327;1380813440;Namworld;whenever I try and open any page 339328;1380813556;taub;aight zoinky 339329;1380813565;taub;that makes more sense 339330;1380813695;Rulother;Well I can go through the site but can't make any trades 339331;1380813699;plambert;I was just using btct, works for me 339332;1380813701;Rulother;If that makes you feel any better :) 339333;1380813815;plambert;nevermind, I see the failure message when i try to buy 339334;1380814100;plambert;Is labcoin still a scam? 339335;1380814267;Rulother;Could be, we're working on getting more information out Sam/Labcoin and trying to get things moving onto BF 339336;1380814281;Rulother;If anything more so a failed project 339337;1380814281;plambert;this might sound like a silly queston, but on Havelock, where do you go to change your password? 339338;1380814644;samson_;I was reading on the silk road forums today, interesting stuff. Someone else got arrested in the UK. Someone who sells packaging supplies to silk roaders....It could be argued that selling packaging containers is not illegal but they arrested him and stole his computer anyway. 339339;1380814662;zoinky;he also sold seeds 339340;1380814670;zoinky;but thats not illegal either is it? 339341;1380814685;samson_;I don't think so, not in the UK anyway 339342;1380814790;zoinky;http://www.reddit.com/r/SilkRoad/comments/1nmfam/possible_first_raid_on_a_vendor/ 339343;1380814790;ozbot;Possible first raid on a vendor : SilkRoad 339344;1380814869;samson_;yes, that's the same one from the forum 339345;1380814897;samson_;They're looking for his customer list by the looks of it. He's out on bail already according to the forum 339346;1380814939;zoinky;nuts im sure more arrests will happen 339347;1380815161;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00093002 = 2.9761 BTC [+] 339348;1380815344;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.87 = 2.61 BTC [+] 339349;1380815405;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 102 @ 0.00290101 = 0.2959 BTC [-] 339350;1380815466;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 87 @ 0.00944782 = 0.822 BTC [-] {7} 339351;1380815499;VanCleef;yeeeeeeh my nicca posted bail 339352;1380815504;VanCleef;give em hell pirate 339353;1380815517;zoinky;? 339354;1380815527;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.95 BTC [+] 339355;1380815588;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 112 @ 0.00290002 = 0.3248 BTC [-] {2} 339356;1380815649;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1139 @ 0.0029 = 3.3031 BTC [-] {3} 339357;1380815732;deadweasel;I don't see my name in the btctalk dump: http://pastebin.com/4Hf37D9H 339358;1380815844;kakobrekla;only 5k there 339359;1380815854;San1ty;I forget the spam email I used on bitcointalk :D 339360;1380815859;San1ty;I don't know if I'm on there :p 339361;1380815906;zoinky;where'd that get leaked from 339362;1380815981;Rulother;I'm not on there 339363;1380816015;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.9 BTC [-] 339364;1380816048;kakobrekla;only 5k users there 339365;1380816053;kakobrekla;cant you read 339366;1380816070;Rulother;No 339367;1380816381;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2850 @ 0.0009303 = 2.6514 BTC [+] 339368;1380816503;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 0.14299996 = 0.286 BTC [+] 339369;1380816664;Rawted;so what's keeping btc up? what are people spending their btc on now? 339370;1380816691;Rawted;i have to be honest, i always thought that if the silk road place went down, bitcoin would go with it, as i simply dont see enough commerce available. 339371;1380816747;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1750 @ 0.00093002 = 1.6275 BTC [-] 339372;1380816793;kakobrekla;Rawted http://trilema.com/2013/i-was-right-you-were-wrong-again-feel-the-burn/ 339373;1380816996;jcpham;jcpham@tiscali.it 339374;1380817001;jcpham;SO MUCH ROFFL 339375;1380817062;Apocalyptic;heh 339376;1380817066;pankkake;.it => scammer 339377;1380817079;jcpham;it's not even me 339378;1380817120;jcpham;frankly i see a lot of important names though 339379;1380817144;jcpham;fo sho 339380;1380817154;jcpham;i say targeted list 339381;1380817379;zoinky;Rawted, i imagine the silkroad community is hooked and just looking for alternatives. 339382;1380817418;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1405 @ 0.00127999 = 1.7984 BTC [-] {2} 339383;1380817479;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 250 @ 0.00128 = 0.32 BTC [+] 339384;1380817485;asciilifeform;http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/10/lavabit_unsealed/ 339385;1380817486;ozbot;Edward Snowden's E-Mail Provider Defied FBI Demands to Turn Over Crypto Keys, Documents Show | Threa 339386;1380817504;nubbins`;hi 339387;1380817642;afrotec;Levison is the man 339388;1380817822;kakobrekla;also FBI doesnt know how to use a scanner 339389;1380817860;kakobrekla;i mean shit, its same way i store my privates 339390;1380818089;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1950 @ 0.00092926 = 1.8121 BTC [-] {2} 339391;1380818150;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1050 @ 0.00093095 = 0.9775 BTC [+] 339392;1380818150;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.00127 = 0.127 BTC [-] 339393;1380819004;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2350 @ 0.00093095 = 2.1877 BTC [+] 339394;1380819056;nubbins`;i store my privates in a jar on my wife's nightstand 339395;1380819219;mjoiii_;I store my privates in my wife 339396;1380819224;mjoiii_;From time to time 339397;1380819267;KRS-1;me too. 339398;1380819272;KRS-1;Thank you for that. 339399;1380819285;mjoiii_;Yeah thought I'd share 339400;1380819294;KRS-1;Sharing is caring. 339401;1380819318;mjoiii_;Oh shit over my head... You bastard! 339402;1380819364;kakobrekla;i keep my privates encrypted and printed on paper on location A and B, and the key to unlock those in location C and D 339403;1380819373;nubbins`;oh, shit, we're talking about keys! 339404;1380819381;nubbins`;lel, so embarassed, &c 339405;1380819919;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00999899 = 0.4999 BTC [+] {2} 339406;1380819986;b0n1;http://pastebin.com/6S2H21eF 339407;1380819990;ozbot;bitcointalk.org db dump (150k records) - Pastebin.com 339408;1380820042;ieatcows;yikes 339409;1380820049;kakobrekla;prolly faek 339410;1380820080;Rannasha;Hmm.. I'm disappointed that they guy didn't even send 2-3 BTC transactions to that address to at least make it appear as if people are taking the offer 339411;1380820090;Rannasha;The BTC address has not seen any transactions. 339412;1380820121;pankkake;e-mails and hashed passwords? pretty much useless 339413;1380820133;nubbins`;yep 339414;1380820138;nubbins`;why the fuck would anyone buy that? 339415;1380820161;pankkake;spammers buy e-mail lists 339416;1380820170;kakobrekla;http://pastebin.com/qTuekr3b 339417;1380820171;ozbot;bitcointalk.org db dump with over 150K emails and hashed passwords; get a pri - Pastebin.com 339418;1380820181;nubbins`;but for 25 BTC? 339419;1380820204;pankkake;probably not 339420;1380820204;nubbins`;that's almost 2 cents per email! 339421;1380820211;nubbins`;highway robbery 339422;1380820216;pankkake;and the mtgox mails are already a good db for bticoin spams 339423;1380820239;kakobrekla;at that time their db was small 339424;1380820381;jcpham;but can't i just watch that address and mitm the list now 339425;1380820392;jcpham;when someone pays him, email him and say it was me 339426;1380820409;jcpham;i bet he challenges it wanting something signed too 339427;1380820412;nubbins`;no doubt 339428;1380820468;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 0.14299996 = 0.286 BTC [+] 339429;1380820725;robitnik;anyone heard from burnside? no trading on btct.co for 7 hours. 339430;1380820728;b0n1;https://blockchain.info/address/1t4k5Y4NFFkvEAqBPymW2PDA5pZqiRm11 339431;1380820731;ozbot;Bitcoin Address 1t4k5Y4NFFkvEAqBPymW2PDA5pZqiRm11 339432;1380820764;nubbins`;seems legit, i will send all my coins there 339433;1380820767;nubbins`;1 sec 339434;1380820927;afrotec;plunge when it comes back i bet 339435;1380821058;Rulother;Yeah not looking forward to that 339436;1380821070;Rulother;Does anyone remember btct's address? btc addy 339437;1380821075;afrotec;*if it comes back 339438;1380821078;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 11000 @ 0.00027999 = 3.0799 BTC [-] {3} 339439;1380821219;jborkl;i guess we are all going to have to move over to Yahoo message board 339440;1380821245;Rulother;For the amount of trolls on btctalk, wouldn't 4chan be better? 339441;1380821308;lewicki;.d 339442;1380821309;ozbot;148819199.80509 | Next Diff in 562 blocks | Estimated Change: 24.1651% in 2d 22h 44m 56s 339443;1380821383;nubbins`;gold coins vs gold wafers, any thoughts? 339444;1380821403;Rulother;gold waffles? 339445;1380821425;nubbins`;the fuck 339446;1380821437;nubbins`;someone in #bitcoin suggested gold pancakes 339447;1380821449;nubbins`;you guise! :( 339448;1380821535;Rulother;The Flap Jack Miner 2000 339449;1380821598;jborkl;you know this shows I am old or something. I have never been to 4chan 339450;1380821624;Rulother;4chan is pretty old, but don't worry it's a silly place 339451;1380821643;Rulother;It's mainly Troll HQ 339452;1380821667;jborkl;I am not much into reading troll, I can't even stand -otc 339453;1380821733;nubbins`;-otc is generally teenagers trying to buy and sell btc through the most arcane, convoluted means possible 339454;1380821740;nubbins`;at least, that's what i gather 339455;1380821757;Rulother;It can be amusing to read sometimes, they will hijack (not hack) several voting events like I believe the Hijacked Justin Bieber's voting page once on his site with "Where should Justin go next?" And had all the members vote for North Korea 339456;1380821767;jborkl;yeah or they are mentally challenged, one of the two 339457;1380821811;afrotec;hahaha i love when they do that. theres a lot of followers, can be a powerful force 339458;1380821813;ieatcows;whats the deal with ADDICTION? they getting some miners soon? 339459;1380821836;jborkl;I did very much enjoy the mac webkit error that kicked you off IRC 339460;1380821865;nubbins`;webkit ftw 339461;1380821882;nubbins`;it's my favourite rendering engine! 339462;1380822054;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00093135 = 1.2108 BTC [+] 339463;1380822420;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1770 @ 0.00022701 = 0.4018 BTC [-] 339464;1380822481;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 6778 @ 0.00022701 = 1.5387 BTC [-] {3} 339465;1380824677;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5407 @ 0.00022701 = 1.2274 BTC [-] 339466;1380824738;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 500 @ 0.00027999 = 0.14 BTC [+] 339467;1380824982;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 348 @ 0.00934878 = 3.2534 BTC [-] {21} 339468;1380825043;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00093135 = 2.1421 BTC [+] 339469;1380825549;Diablo-D3;;;ticker 339470;1380825549;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 130.01000, Best ask: 130.10398, Bid-ask spread: 0.09398, Last trade: 130.00000, 24 hour volume: 65013.66466618, 24 hour low: 118.23000, 24 hour high: 132.00000, 24 hour vwap: 126.12904 339471;1380825715;lewicki;.d 339472;1380825720;ozbot;148819199.80509 | Next Diff in 556 blocks | Estimated Change: 23.8005% in 2d 22h 29m 6s 339473;1380825776;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.00812253 = 0.1625 BTC [-] {2} 339474;1380825837;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 525 @ 0.00123857 = 0.6502 BTC [-] {6} 339475;1380826004;plambert;is btct working yet? 339476;1380826087;plambert;nope, still has error message 339477;1380826160;zoinky;? 339478;1380826163;zoinky;im on btct 339479;1380826199;dexX7;try to buy/sell ... won't work 339480;1380826202;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 33 @ 0.00801308 = 0.2644 BTC [-] {2} 339481;1380826221;zoinky;ah 339482;1380826263;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 28 @ 0.00800003 = 0.224 BTC [-] 339483;1380826281;plambert;anybody know how to contact burnsides to get btct back up again? 339484;1380826297;kakobrekla;call 080-NEFARIOUS 339485;1380826309;imsaguy;wasn't that in the announcement? 339486;1380826315;imsaguy;that on a certain date, trading would stop? 339487;1380826332;plambert;did you see the news that the helpline for ObamaCare is 1-800-F1U-CKYO ? 339488;1380826388;plambert;imsaguy - I thought trading went until the 7th? 339489;1380826397;imsaguy;I don't know the date. 339490;1380826400;imsaguy;I don't use the exchange. 339491;1380826410;imsaguy;I'm just going based on what I can remember from what I read. 339492;1380826429;plambert;"October 7, 2013, all forms of secondary market trading will be halted on both sites" from the website 339493;1380826507;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00093352 = 4.0141 BTC [+] {4} 339494;1380826548;plambert;what's the number in the curly braces at the end of the ticker mean? 339495;1380826592;Rannasha;the number of trades that were condensed into the single report 339496;1380826618;Rannasha;so the last report means that 4 trades were executed, totalling 4300 shares, average price of 0.00093352 339497;1380826618;dexX7;http://news.softpedia.com/news/Hacker-Claims-He-s-Selling-Data-Stolen-from-Bitcointalk-org-for-25BTC-Exclusive-388252.shtml 339498;1380826741;plambert;damn hackers 339499;1380826761;jurov;is he selling deleted posts, too? would buy for lulz 339500;1380826895;plambert;Are the passwords each hashed individually, or once he breaks the encryption for one he can read all of them? 339501;1380826927;dexX7;http://pastebin.com/4Hf37D9H the sample 339502;1380826928;ozbot;bitcoin***.org - Pastebin.com 339503;1380826935;kakobrekla;plambert no 339504;1380826958;plambert;no what? 339505;1380826959;jurov;that's question for theymos... if he used standard salted hashes then only easy passwords can be cracked 339506;1380827006;dexX7;"Passwords are hashed using sha256crypt with 7500 rounds (very strong)" 339507;1380827008;Diablo-D3;the email answered it anyhow 339508;1380827009;Diablo-D3;yeah that 339509;1380827239;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4997 @ 0.00093611 = 4.6777 BTC [+] {2} 339510;1380827459;jurov;eeeh? gonna increase my fat-finger-catch asks 339511;1380827469;jurov;on s.mpoe 339512;1380827746;FabianB;jurov: what are fat-finger-catch asks? for accidental buys? 339513;1380827817;jurov;yes, if one places buy for s.mpoe at market place.. or puts decimal dot in wrong place 339514;1380827840;jurov;happened serveral times on mpex already 339515;1380827876;FabianB;jurov: yeah, but noticed it mostly downwards 339516;1380827883;jurov;only 45k shares for sale atm 339517;1380827906;FabianB;very thin, noone wants to sell 339518;1380828099;lewicki;interested to see what becaomes of the 600,000 bitcoins 339519;1380828223;kakobrekla;what if someone does that on coinbr 339520;1380828240;kakobrekla;you gonna take the gap? 339521;1380828344;afrotec;;;me 339522;1380828345;gribble;Error: "me" is not a valid command. 339523;1380828394;jurov;kakobrekla: what exactly? putting in unfavorable price? 339524;1380828453;kakobrekla;well 339525;1380828454;jurov;it will still get dutifully placed on mpex and mpex will duly fill it and report cross-trade (an undocumented feature) 339526;1380828456;plambert;say somebody says "sell at 0.0000001" and they actually sell at 0.001, do you credit them the 0.001 or the 0.0000001? 339527;1380828501;jurov;no, i credit them real sell price 339528;1380828549;b0n1;https://blockchain.info/address/1t4k5Y4NFFkvEAqBPymW2PDA5pZqiRm11 look at the notes... haha ;) 339529;1380828552;ozbot;Bitcoin Address 1t4k5Y4NFFkvEAqBPymW2PDA5pZqiRm11 339530;1380828709;Rulother;amazing 339531;1380828709;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 339532;1380828713;Rulother;dammit 339533;1380828755;kakobrekla;midge doesnt give a fuck. 339534;1380828764;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.9 = 2.7 BTC [-] 339535;1380829380;jurov;;;bc,convert eur 339536;1380829381;gribble;1 BTC = 130.12900 U.S. dollars = 96.2350244 Euros 339537;1380829412;jurov;;;seen davout 339538;1380829413;gribble;davout was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 days, 7 hours, 37 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: mircea_popescu: there's still work to get everything smoothly running 339539;1380829433;jurov;indeed...waiting almos a week for verfication 339540;1380829494;kakobrekla;hm 339541;1380829500;kakobrekla;yeah i might register as well there 339542;1380829520;kakobrekla;since i ditched the two cans and a string exchange 339543;1380829621;jurov;you weren't there before? my old account still works, just needs reverification 339544;1380829627;kakobrekla;i wasnt 339545;1380829816;plambert;looks like the price has pretty much bounced back from yesterday's "crash!!1! omg the sky is falling this is the end of bitcoins" 339546;1380829851;kakobrekla;crackheads ran out of btc to sell 339547;1380829881;jurov;plambert: i guess hedge fund managers used any panic sells to slightly improve their btc position 339548;1380829894;plambert;Who here got the cheapest bitcoins? I got some for about 105 339549;1380829897;kakobrekla;yea 339550;1380829923;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 700 @ 0.00093429 = 0.654 BTC [-] 339551;1380831008;gimme_bottles;what's up with btc-tc? no trades in 10 hours 339552;1380831326;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.42 = 0.84 BTC [-] 339553;1380831936;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.0085 = 0.17 BTC [+] 339554;1380832973;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.0084956 = 0.2549 BTC [-] {3} 339555;1380833445;Kleeck_;.d 339556;1380833445;ozbot;148819199.80509 | Next Diff in 539 blocks | Estimated Change: 23.9647% in 2d 20h 3m 30s 339557;1380833461;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2815 @ 0.00093429 = 2.63 BTC [-] 339558;1380833522;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4235 @ 0.0009366 = 3.9665 BTC [+] {2} 339559;1380833949;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2450 @ 0.00093073 = 2.2803 BTC [-] {2} 339560;1380834681;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 41 @ 0.00749975 = 0.3075 BTC [+] {2} 339561;1380834682;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3511 @ 0.0009376 = 3.2919 BTC [+] {2} 339562;1380834925;assbot;[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 50 @ 0.04184159 = 2.0921 BTC [-] {8} 339563;1380835108;Rulother;oooo 339564;1380835220;jurov;;;bc,stats 339565;1380835223;gribble;Current Blocks: 261543 | Current Difficulty: 1.4881919980509263E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 262079 | Next Difficulty In: 536 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 16 hours, 19 minutes, and 11 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 184354428.172 | Estimated Percent Change: 23.87812 339566;1380835252;jurov;;;calc 184*1.3 339567;1380835252;gribble;239.2 339568;1380835718;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1296 @ 0.00094023 = 1.2185 BTC [+] 339569;1380835760;kakobrekla;!t h dealco 339570;1380835762;assbot;[HAVELOCK:DEALCO] 1D: 0.00749000 / 0.00749976 / 0.00750000 (41 shares, 0.30749000 BTC), 7D: 0.00420003 / 0.00514473 / 0.00969995 (573 shares, 2.94793246 BTC), 30D: 0.00300000 / 0.00938613 / 0.01525000 (10830 shares, 101.65180960 BTC) 339571;1380835833;tyrion70;Samuel Cole +46.732300149 Phone 339572;1380835839;tyrion70;:P 339573;1380835849;tyrion70;err… wrong screen :) 339574;1380835990;Rulother;I see 339575;1380836314;heetch;Trading is back on btct 339576;1380836324;heetch;Go burnside 339577;1380836694;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 243 @ 0.00094023 = 0.2285 BTC [+] 339578;1380836938;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 43275 @ 0.0001956 = 8.4646 BTC [-] {22} 339579;1380837892;mircea_popescu;plambert> Are the passwords each hashed individually, or once he breaks the encryption for one he can read all of them? << they theoretically should use varied salts, but was no mention of that so prolly not. 339580;1380837901;mircea_popescu;even so, having the salt helps but doesn 339581;1380837905;mircea_popescu;'t make it trivial. 339582;1380838097;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 0.997 = 8.973 BTC [+] 339583;1380838158;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.PURCHASE] 25 @ 0.00626996 = 0.1567 BTC [-] {2} 339584;1380838219;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 17 @ 0.999 = 16.983 BTC [+] {2} 339585;1380839317;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.999 = 5.994 BTC [+] 339586;1380839445;mircea_popescu;In an interesting work-around, Levison complied the next day by turning over the private SSL keys as an 11 page printout in 4-point type. The government, not unreasonably, called the printout illegible. 339587;1380839453;mircea_popescu;ahahaha asciilifeform 339588;1380839460;mircea_popescu;this guy is some sort of contemporary hero already. 339589;1380839472;mircea_popescu;we need a levison day. 339590;1380839479;mircea_popescu;i guess june 28. 339591;1380839525;asciilifeform;hope he's got the good sense to skip the country (or fellate his pistol) before they bring him in for the crime of closing his shop. 339592;1380840143;pankkake;if they were any good, they probably could have brute-scanned the paper 339593;1380840154;pankkake;you can actually recover blurred text easily 339594;1380840258;asciilifeform;this is rather like that fellow who paid his tax bill with a wheelbarrow of pennies: not a real obstacle. 339595;1380840415;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.026 BTC [+] 339596;1380840458;mircea_popescu;nah. it's the principle of the matter. 339597;1380840483;mircea_popescu;the people dumping tea in the harbor did not measurably impact the british either. 339598;1380840498;pankkake;yeah, but they hate disobedience 339599;1380840523;asciilifeform;i dare say his pulling the plug was more significant re: disobedience 339600;1380840540;pankkake;yes; it was the second step 339601;1380840713;mircea_popescu;more effective, yes. more significant, no. 339602;1380840964;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 48 @ 0.42 = 20.16 BTC [-] 339603;1380841026;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.4001 = 3.2008 BTC [-] 339604;1380841126;[\];What was teh asicminer div yesterday? 339605;1380841147;assbot;[BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 4 @ 0.65 = 2.6 BTC [+] 339606;1380841204;pankkake;0.08 339607;1380841210;kakobrekla;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-10-2013#338446 339608;1380841211;[\];wow 339609;1380841212;ll;.00800337 339610;1380841212;ozbot;#bitcoin-assets log 339611;1380841217;pankkake;+0 339612;1380841330;assbot;[BTCTC] [BMF] 40 @ 0.015 = 0.6 BTC [+] 339613;1380841391;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.0009302 = 5.2091 BTC [-] {4} 339614;1380841408;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/why-june-28th-is-levison-day/ 339615;1380841409;ozbot;Why June 28th is Levison day pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 339616;1380841513;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 40 @ 0.00511 = 0.2044 BTC [-] 339617;1380841629;pankkake;http://it.slashdot.org/story/13/10/03/221248/adobe-hacked-almost-3-million-accounts-compromised everyone hacked 339618;1380841630;ozbot;Adobe Hacked: Almost 3 Million Accounts Compromised - Slashdot 339619;1380841635;assbot;[BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 173 @ 0.001188 = 0.2055 BTC [-] 339620;1380841696;assbot;[BTCTC] [CIPHERMINE-PT] 12 @ 0.014 = 0.168 BTC [-] 339621;1380841720;mircea_popescu;adobe. good riddance. 339622;1380841722;pankkake;http://www.wired.com/business/2013/10/twitter-files-for-ipo-2/ "we're losing millions, let's IPO" 339623;1380841723;ozbot;Twitter Files for IPO, Shows $317M in Revenue | Wired Business | Wired.com 339624;1380841757;assbot;[BTCTC] [RSM] 89 @ 0.00320112 = 0.2849 BTC [+] {2} 339625;1380841774;mircea_popescu;worked for fb... 339626;1380841793;pankkake;I don't think fb was actually losing money 339627;1380841818;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 20000 @ 0.0002 = 4 BTC [-] 339628;1380841913;mircea_popescu;you kidding right ? 339629;1380842489;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1300 @ 0.0002 = 0.26 BTC [-] 339630;1380842794;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.9802 = 4.901 BTC [-] 339631;1380842855;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 0.9802 = 8.8218 BTC [-] {2} 339632;1380842916;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.98 = 9.8 BTC [-] 339633;1380843023;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform kinda funny how the original order was issued by the buchanan magistrate at 4pm, and before closing time (so within an hour ?) she was issuing forthwiths with handwritten admonitions. 339634;1380843038;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.9665 BTC [-] 339635;1380843045;mircea_popescu;basically they have this set of lackeys in the magistrature that do nothing all day except waiting for the phone to ring or what is it ? 339636;1380843085;mircea_popescu;it brings to mind the case of the texas magistrate who had resolved motions the day they were filed and ruled within ten days or something, 339637;1380843109;mircea_popescu;and then ditched any requests to explain whether he had modified his vacation in order to help out teh government. 339638;1380843221;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 18 @ 0.9631 = 17.3358 BTC [-] 339639;1380843282;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00092803 = 1.5777 BTC [-] 339640;1380843343;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 22565 @ 0.00021659 = 4.8874 BTC [+] {12} 339641;1380843404;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 470 @ 0.0002186 = 0.1027 BTC [+] {2} 339642;1380843587;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.963 = 1.926 BTC [-] 339643;1380843892;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.9625 BTC [-] 339644;1380843953;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 0.96121999 = 19.2244 BTC [-] {5} 339645;1380844014;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.9611 = 5.7666 BTC [-] 339646;1380844014;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 14 @ 0.87817049 = 12.2944 BTC [-] {5} 339647;1380844319;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00092659 = 3.521 BTC [-] {3} 339648;1380844624;assbot;[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 10 @ 0.035 = 0.35 BTC [-] 339649;1380844685;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1110 @ 0.00120085 = 1.3329 BTC [-] {5} 339650;1380844747;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 24 @ 0.39167083 = 9.4001 BTC [-] {3} 339651;1380845417;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2500 @ 0.00025196 = 0.6299 BTC [+] {4} 339652;1380845478;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 465 @ 0.00849991 = 3.9525 BTC [+] {2} 339653;1380845479;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 4530 @ 0.0001861 = 0.843 BTC [-] {2} 339654;1380845722;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 50 @ 0.0075 = 0.375 BTC [+] 339655;1380845905;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 20000 @ 0.00017001 = 3.4002 BTC [-] {2} 339656;1380846149;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 804 @ 0.00093203 = 0.7494 BTC [+] 339657;1380847064;assbot;[MPEX] [S.BBET] 1000 @ 0.0005 = 0.5 BTC [+] 339658;1380847064;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 210 @ 0.0012 = 0.252 BTC [-] {2} 339659;1380847126;assbot;[MPEX] [S.BBET] 245 @ 0.0005 = 0.1225 BTC [+] 339660;1380847247;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.38 = 0.76 BTC [-] {2} 339661;1380847248;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2100 @ 0.00092915 = 1.9512 BTC [-] 339662;1380847430;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 508 @ 0.000926 = 0.4704 BTC [-] 339663;1380848101;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2000 @ 0.0002186 = 0.4372 BTC [+] 339664;1380848162;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 40 @ 0.38 = 15.2 BTC [-] 339665;1380848335;mircea_popescu;Subject: SIMONS_SPAM USPS - Your package is available for pickup ( Parcel 492552468475 ) 339666;1380848341;mircea_popescu;dude how retarded can they get already. 339667;1380848381;mint;whats up with petamine 339668;1380848521;mircea_popescu;nothing ? 339669;1380848553;jborkl;Just say no to pedo 339670;1380849565;assbot;[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 20 @ 0.01 = 0.2 BTC [-] 339671;1380849687;assbot;[BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 157 @ 0.001188 = 0.1865 BTC [-] 339672;1380850419;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2150 @ 0.00093191 = 2.0036 BTC [+] {2} 339673;1380852249;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1 BTC [+] 339674;1380852859;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1450 @ 0.00093104 = 1.35 BTC [-] {2} 339675;1380853713;assbot;[BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 163 @ 0.001188 = 0.1936 BTC [-] 339676;1380853896;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.PURCHASE] 28 @ 0.006207 = 0.1738 BTC [-] 339677;1380853957;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.PURCHASE] 100 @ 0.0062 = 0.62 BTC [-] 339678;1380854018;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.PURCHASE] 225 @ 0.006109 = 1.3745 BTC [-] 339679;1380854018;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6504 @ 0.00092455 = 6.0133 BTC [-] {2} 339680;1380854079;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.PURCHASE] 140 @ 0.00610671 = 0.8549 BTC [-] {2} 339681;1380854201;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.PURCHASE] 574 @ 0.0061 = 3.5014 BTC [-] {2} 339682;1380854750;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.98 BTC [-] 339683;1380854933;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 84 @ 0.00852697 = 0.7163 BTC [+] {5} 339684;1380855238;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 110 @ 0.00118927 = 0.1308 BTC [-] {2} 339685;1380855299;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 157 @ 0.00118031 = 0.1853 BTC [-] {3} 339686;1380855320;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/so-whos-running-the-courts-circus/ 339687;1380855321;ozbot;So who’s running the Courts circus ? pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 339688;1380855337;mircea_popescu;i muchly advised anyone interesting in mattering in bitcoin to read that whole thing. 339689;1380855360;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 600 @ 0.0005 = 0.3 BTC [+] {2} 339690;1380855383;mircea_popescu;let';s try again with better grammar. 339691;1380855389;mircea_popescu;i muchly advise anyone interested in mattering in bitcoin to read that whole thing. 339692;1380855607;VanCleef;i'm selling lube if anyone neeeds any for jail 339693;1380855652;asciilifeform;VanCleef: make sure to also offer cyanide, for the Aaron Schwartz school of thought. 339694;1380855677;asciilifeform;VanCleef: and 'arse safes' to secrete said cyanide in, a la Goering. 339695;1380855726;asciilifeform;fun fact: you can see Herr Goering's actual arse safe in the 'spy museum' in Wash., DC. 339696;1380855729;dub;fuck mattering, were just here to get rich from mining ponzis 339697;1380855783;dub;and re: Schwartz, go go gadget darwin 339698;1380855818;asciilifeform;dub: personally, I'd prefer the 'magic' tooth from Dune. 339699;1380855824;mircea_popescu;dub that's a point. 339700;1380855840;mircea_popescu;just building the crumb of trails for future mpoe-pr bitchslappings. 339701;1380855848;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.91285714 = 6.39 BTC [+] {2} 339702;1380855852;mircea_popescu;provided of course some retard venue will still exist in the future... 339703;1380855909;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2180 @ 0.00092365 = 2.0136 BTC [-] {2} 339704;1380855941;dub;how sails the forum lulzboat? 339705;1380855950;dub;I have no time for drama these days :( 339706;1380855970;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 770 @ 0.00092301 = 0.7107 BTC [-] {2} 339707;1380855979;mircea_popescu;still down afaik 339708;1380855993;dub;has the patented intersango 'we'll pay you to return our data' method brought a result 339709;1380856031;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 165 @ 0.00117077 = 0.1932 BTC [-] {5} 339710;1380856033;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: aside from historical/nostalgic concerns, what would be the purpose of having the list of judges ? 339711;1380856085;mircea_popescu;im pretty sure it will come out that the judges that play ball have about an order of magnitude better chances to progress. 339712;1380856092;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 5000 @ 0.0002 = 1 BTC [+] 339713;1380856107;mircea_popescu;whereas women that suck cock have a less than twice as better chances to progress. 339714;1380856108;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: seems like a foregone conclusion. 339715;1380856120;mircea_popescu;documentation is documentation. 339716;1380856121;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: think of Soviet judges. 339717;1380856161;mircea_popescu;i am certainly more interested in judges being raped by the usg than in secretaries being raped by their bosses. 339718;1380856200;mircea_popescu;so correspondingly more resources should be directed to fight the former than the later, by a significant margin. 339719;1380856252;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: not sure about how writing a list of modern-day Soviet (or otherwise) judges fights anything... 339720;1380856305;asciilifeform;picture a list of Mexican policemen who forgo bribes. so what. 339721;1380856336;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 252 @ 0.00116102 = 0.2926 BTC [-] {3} 339722;1380856355;mircea_popescu;so you have the list. 339723;1380856396;mircea_popescu;society, at least the livable sort, is built from causes not towards effects. 339724;1380856397;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.00996665 = 0.299 BTC [+] {2} 339725;1380856398;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.9613 BTC [-] 339726;1380856407;mircea_popescu;it matters not one whit what "benefit" your correct actions yield. 339727;1380856470;mircea_popescu;at any rate, as far as i know the average grad student takes a few months to gather 25 btc in living grants/we, and if literate should be able to complete the task in that time. 339728;1380856484;asciilifeform;I'm thinking also about the side-effects. Imagine printing a list of foot-dragging German judges in the '30s. 339729;1380856514;VanCleef;the pirce is now at 133.7 339730;1380856579;mircea_popescu;don't for a second imagine the bad boys don't keep that list. 339731;1380856597;mircea_popescu;they have the time and inclination to compile tax harassment programmes for charities for chrissakes. 339732;1380856606;mircea_popescu;this is merely a minute attempt to remedy an information imbalance. 339733;1380856632;asciilifeform;Don't get me wrong, I'd love to read the result 339734;1380856663;mircea_popescu;i'd love to see whether the numerous and very self-important "law blogs" get it or not and how long it takes them to. 339735;1380856678;asciilifeform;these fellows will probably end up on some dour memorial plaque somewhere, maybe glued to the wall where the firing squad stood 339736;1380856689;mircea_popescu;nobody's shooting any judges. 339737;1380856719;asciilifeform;I was thinking of the 'good ones', if that wasn't clear 339738;1380856750;asciilifeform;I'm rather pessimistic about their prospects in the far future, particularly the younger ones 339739;1380856776;asciilifeform;where did Stalin put uncooperative judges? 339740;1380856824;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.9613 = 2.8839 BTC [-] {2} 339741;1380856889;asciilifeform;I don't expect to grow old myself, and I'm not even remotely a judge. Dissenting or otherwise. 339742;1380856899;mircea_popescu;listen, you take too much for granted. 339743;1380856911;mircea_popescu;stalin was a man after my own heart. you can not find someone half stalin in the entire us today. 339744;1380856935;asciilifeform;plenty of fellows with the inclinations, sans the gifts. 339745;1380856969;mircea_popescu;yeah well... 339746;1380856992;mircea_popescu;you know what, in russia cca 1930 there were a bunch of fuckwits with round glasses and a tufty chin beard. 339747;1380856997;mircea_popescu;they didn't magically become trotsky. 339748;1380857007;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 573 @ 0.00115343 = 0.6609 BTC [-] {5} 339749;1380857034;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: do you remember Roland Freisler? perhaps he was the first truly modern judge. 339750;1380857061;mircea_popescu;meanwhile the happy brigade has uncovered a bunch of negative reviews. seems this hilton guy is really very pro govt ? 339751;1380857089;Vexual;uncooperative lawyers dont become judges 339752;1380857115;mircea_popescu;i don't know what exactly is modern about him ? the rolls are full since at least the 1300s with the same type. 339753;1380857117;mircea_popescu;court-ier. 339754;1380857150;mircea_popescu;Vexual the strange thing is that in civil systems it's precisely the uncooperative lawyers that tend to become judges. 339755;1380857164;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: point. Bernard Gui & friends. 339756;1380857178;mircea_popescu;basically the kids out of law school split in three groups : those who deal well with people, and they end up lawyers. those who have daddy issues, and they become das. 339757;1380857184;mircea_popescu;finally those with neither quality. they end up judges. 339758;1380857343;asciilifeform;I'd like to point out that we do not yet know how the Levison story ends. 339759;1380857377;mircea_popescu;personally, i don't care how it ends. 339760;1380857385;mircea_popescu;the man sent the 4 point 11 pages key. 339761;1380857399;Vexual;at least we know paper wallets are safe 339762;1380857434;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.02 BTC [+] 339763;1380857451;mircea_popescu;if sufficiently small :D 339764;1380857452;asciilifeform;you know, if the key is genuine (no bits diddled) the inquisitor got much of what he wanted. safe to assume that every packet lavabit shat or ate in its entire life was recorded. 339765;1380857503;asciilifeform;Levison quoted a rather high cost (several $k) for changing his SSL certs, so presumably he did not do it often. 339766;1380857527;mircea_popescu;that's the other thing. what sort of braindamaged retard actually expects ssl to protect his email. 339767;1380857532;mircea_popescu;well, other than snowden 339768;1380857536;asciilifeform;that's a whole separate question 339769;1380857617;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2100 @ 0.00092288 = 1.938 BTC [-] 339770;1380857617;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 11631 @ 0.0002 = 2.3262 BTC [+] {2} 339771;1380857762;asciilifeform;there's also the issue of people who are literate enough to have some idea of what real security is, but not literate enough to practice it. 339772;1380857779;asciilifeform;these just sit catatonically and don't do much of anything, i imagine 339773;1380857807;asciilifeform;so we're left with the snowdens and ulbrichts (who become public fools) and the rest (who are invisible.) 339774;1380857843;mircea_popescu;i still don't quite grasp this part. 339775;1380857854;asciilifeform;think 'groklaw' 339776;1380857863;mircea_popescu;so bradley manning, a total emo fuckwit, somehow managed to be a big honcho in us signals. 339777;1380857871;mircea_popescu;but hey, shit happens, right ? his co was retarded. 339778;1380857872;asciilifeform;manning was a grunt 339779;1380857878;asciilifeform;with some janitorial keys 339780;1380857881;mircea_popescu;dude, he had the stuff ? he was a big honcho. 339781;1380857891;mircea_popescu;grunts do not get access to petabytes of crap 339782;1380857903;asciilifeform;in the u.s., the way it works is that there's a 'secret' (vs. 'top', etc.) intranet 339783;1380857903;mircea_popescu;moving on : snowden defects. 339784;1380857914;mircea_popescu;apparently snowden does not know how to secure communications. 339785;1380857925;mircea_popescu;yet he has enough data to bury another petreus. 339786;1380857936;mircea_popescu;what the fuck is going on over there, those people been turned to monkeys or something ? 339787;1380857941;asciilifeform;it is possible that he did know. but was forced to deal with people who don't 339788;1380857953;mircea_popescu;heh. nobody's forced. 339789;1380857960;asciilifeform;there is some record that he tried to persuade the journalists to use gpg 339790;1380857975;mircea_popescu;anyway, if this had happened in 1973 the russians would have finished all the vodka and died of split sides. 339791;1380858001;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform dude, srsly. you're a field agent and you "try to" persuade ? 339792;1380858008;mircea_popescu;in what parallel universe is this going on. 339793;1380858014;asciilifeform;point. betcha the Brits finished all the Lagavulin when Mitrokhin split with his treasure chest. 339794;1380858014;Vexual;we wouldn't have heard about it in 73 339795;1380858032;mircea_popescu;Vexual depends on your definition of we. 339796;1380858044;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3750 @ 0.00093203 = 3.4951 BTC [+] {2} 339797;1380858046;Vexual;the internet et all 339798;1380858057;mircea_popescu;well obviously, as it diodn't exist in 73. 339799;1380858076;Vexual;no 339800;1380858090;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: have you considered the 'mr. s. is a disinfo agent' hypothesis? 339801;1380858106;mircea_popescu;sure. 339802;1380858120;asciilifeform;he needn't be aware of the fact, either 339803;1380858125;mircea_popescu;certainly. 339804;1380858133;asciilifeform;easy to set things up so some fool walks off with 'everything he wants' 339805;1380858133;mircea_popescu;but mind you, my discussion is purely procedural. 339806;1380858143;mircea_popescu;whether he in fact is a defector or a mole, intentional or not, 339807;1380858153;mircea_popescu;the story still goes the way describe it. 339808;1380858183;mircea_popescu;in short, whether the gas station theft was genuine or staged, 339809;1380858186;mircea_popescu;the guy still can't drive. 339810;1380858195;asciilifeform;AFAIK, the only reason i have to consider the 'disinfo' hypothesis is the actual effects of the circus 339811;1380858214;mircea_popescu;what i want to know is why the us signals corps is made out of monkeys! 339812;1380858228;mircea_popescu;it's a disgrace, they'll get cut out of nato meetings at this rate 339813;1380858233;mircea_popescu;the way the french were in the 70s. 339814;1380858238;asciilifeform;the lusers driven off lavabit likely won't be using gpg, they'll be dropping plaintext (or going home and crying.) 339815;1380858250;asciilifeform;cui bono 339816;1380858261;mircea_popescu;cui bono what ? 339817;1380858279;asciilifeform;people distrusting crypto (of snake oil and genuine varieties, both) 339818;1380858281;asciilifeform;left and right 339819;1380858284;asciilifeform;who wins 339820;1380858299;mircea_popescu;stupidity and laziness need no ulterior motive. 339821;1380858303;Vexual;its a big job 339822;1380858311;mircea_popescu;this is like inquiring who wins out of the roman notion that blowjobs cause cavities. 339823;1380858362;asciilifeform;if you were the fuhrer of NSA, and your minions have not yet found a pill against rsa/etc., what would you do? 339824;1380858400;asciilifeform;there's more than one way to steer people away from modern crypto 339825;1380858434;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: you're probably right that this is a crackpot hypothesis, it presumes competence where, as far as we know, none is left 339826;1380858443;mircea_popescu;if i were the fuhrer of the nsa i would be putting backdoors in every single code or cypher used by the usg 339827;1380858447;mircea_popescu;and leak all the keys 339828;1380858448;mircea_popescu;all the time. 339829;1380858471;assbot;[BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 92 @ 0.001188 = 0.1093 BTC [-] 339830;1380858475;mircea_popescu;which perhaps explains why there is no competence left in there. 339831;1380858487;mircea_popescu;they probably heard the exact same thing a thousand times so far. 339832;1380858490;asciilifeform;btw I find it interesting that the names, brief histories, and approximate purposes of the 'Suite A' ciphers (nsa proprietary) used to be on wikipedia 339833;1380858507;asciilifeform;and not one (save the ill-fated Skipjack) has ever seen the light of day 339834;1380858517;mircea_popescu;yeah they got a letter of cachet 339835;1380858531;mircea_popescu;got really excited about it all at the top cockless geek level. 339836;1380858553;asciilifeform;funny part is that every 'spam wikipedia' (clone) still has them 339837;1380858576;asciilifeform;the names/abstracts, that is, nobody save the owners have seen the algos 339838;1380858617;mircea_popescu;myeah. 339839;1380858626;mircea_popescu;actually here's a great idea to troll wikipedia 339840;1380858631;mircea_popescu;recreate those articles lol 339841;1380858688;asciilifeform;whoah 339842;1380858699;asciilifeform;the idiot wiki-printers still have this crap 339843;1380858701;asciilifeform;http://www.amazon.co.uk/JOSEKI-cipher-Ronald-Jesse-Russell/dp/B007OVDGVS 339844;1380858703;ozbot;JOSEKI (cipher): Amazon.co.uk: Ronald Cohn Jesse Russell: Books 339845;1380858776;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 5000 @ 0.0002 = 1 BTC [-] 339846;1380858798;asciilifeform;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:NSA_Suite_A_Cryptography 339847;1380858856;mircea_popescu;"It cannot be that a search warrant is "general" merely because it gives the government a tool that, 339848;1380858856;mircea_popescu;if abused Contrrary to law, could constitute a general search." 339849;1380858863;mircea_popescu;dude this is certainly a novel argument. 339850;1380858886;asciilifeform;I do wonder why anybody bothered with the 'lettre du cachet', the wiki crap was the equivalent of a winamp playlist 339851;1380858904;mircea_popescu;according to this nutjob a search is not general if it is objectively general as long as there's some sort of theoretical limitation on the generality. 339852;1380858954;asciilifeform;well yeah, he used the 'apartment house' analogy 339853;1380858959;mircea_popescu;for instance a warrant for the search of all cars in new york "to see if there's anything fishi going on" is not general as long as there;s a dept of transportation rule against people being assholes on the road. 339854;1380859006;mircea_popescu;except they're asking for copies to the front door keys, not for the front door t obe unlocked. 339855;1380859023;mircea_popescu;such despicable tactics for srsly. 339856;1380859052;asciilifeform;it reflects the actual policy of the actual rulers. no surprises here. 339857;1380859056;Vexual;and its not illegal to unlcok the door if you have the key? 339858;1380859111;mircea_popescu;dependso n how you got the key. 339859;1380859142;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3550 @ 0.00093292 = 3.3119 BTC [+] {2} 339860;1380859455;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform finally, what i don't understand in this whole thing, is why didn't the guy just take the 5th ? 339861;1380859488;mircea_popescu;send his wife some email about how he had shoplifted or run a red light or w/e 339862;1380859508;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: IANAL, but i don't think you can do that in a civil action 339863;1380859510;mircea_popescu;after which he won't give the keys because he's concerned the govt might imprison him by using those keys to read his email.s 339864;1380859524;mircea_popescu;they are threatening criminal contempt. it's their only actual effectual means. 339865;1380859537;asciilifeform;threatening, yes, but AFAIK this was technically a civil case. 339866;1380859537;mircea_popescu;otherwise w/e, add 1k per day until you're done adding numbers. 339867;1380859553;asciilifeform;or rather, 'administrative' - sort of like traffic court 339868;1380859590;asciilifeform;if he sat around until they physically dragged him off, he might've been able to (might still, actually) end up in criminal proceedings 339869;1380859596;asciilifeform;where he might try to take the 5th 339870;1380859644;asciilifeform;might want to ask a real live lawyer about this one 339871;1380859810;mircea_popescu;itmakes little difference tho. 339872;1380859813;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.38 BTC [-] 339873;1380859816;mircea_popescu;5th defense is available throughout. 339874;1380859874;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.38 = 2.66 BTC [-] 339875;1380859875;mircea_popescu;besides, there's an entire mess of civil proceedings that are still criminal for the purposes of that defense. 339876;1380859952;asciilifeform;I imagine there was a precedent where it didn't fly. That, or L and all of his predecessors had uncommonly drunken lawyers. 339877;1380860191;mircea_popescu;or pehraps a not wholly digested sense that they are interacting with their enemy 339878;1380860195;mircea_popescu;rather than with their government. 339879;1380860315;asciilifeform;the judge review site is a real gem 339880;1380860433;mircea_popescu;re-reading the transcript it sort-of makes it sound as if the fbi and the judge had prior agreement 339881;1380860454;mircea_popescu;and then in court the judge was confronted with a different request from what was agreed in advance. 339882;1380860480;mircea_popescu;pretty fucking pernicious this, the defendant doesn't get to go around and chat weith the judge off the record first, before picking one. 339883;1380860519;asciilifeform;my suspicion is that the inquisitor (the fellow who actually ran the show) - and definitely the judge - weren't really prepared for the 'we don't have a backdoor already' statement by L 339884;1380860541;mircea_popescu;possibly. 339885;1380860557;asciilifeform;damn near everything has an obvious administrative backdoor by default 339886;1380860569;mircea_popescu;fucking obnoxious dude, that. hello! jim mays here with the government's latest pile of nonsense!" 339887;1380860570;asciilifeform;L's system, lame as it was for obvious reasons, was unusual in that regard. 339888;1380860619;mircea_popescu;and that binall guy is a retard. 339889;1380860728;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.38 = 1.9 BTC [-] 339890;1380860789;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 47 @ 0.00979993 = 0.4606 BTC [-] 339891;1380860850;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 143 @ 0.00979993 = 1.4014 BTC [-] 339892;1380860884;asciilifeform;i suspect that the screws will be tightened soon, and the rules that apply to telephone exchanges (illegal to run without user-friendly backdoor at your own expense) will be applied elsewhere. 339893;1380860948;mircea_popescu;net result, us loses the shred of internet relevance it still has 339894;1380860968;asciilifeform;for example, it now is (or soon will be, depending on what document you believe) to sell a car in the u.s. without a remote-disable radio. 339895;1380860978;mircea_popescu;i don't see why this is so hard to graps, but the sovereignity of the internet is not negotiable, it is mandatory. 339896;1380860994;mircea_popescu;yes but cars run in the us. 339897;1380861022;asciilifeform;it would be interesting to see an internet that doesn't consist mainly of u.s. telecom oligopolies. 339898;1380861129;asciilifeform;maybe time to bring back fidonet. 339899;1380861140;mircea_popescu;it doesn't mainly consist of us telecom now. 339900;1380861150;mircea_popescu;whatcher talking about. 339901;1380861167;asciilifeform;ok, replace 'us' with 'nato block' 339902;1380861242;asciilifeform;see, don't misunderstand, nato doesn't formally own all the oceanic fibers, etc. but if someone can cut your fiber and weld it back with a magic box inline, and you can't do squat about it... you don't own said fiber. 339903;1380861250;asciilifeform;even if you paid for the boat and so forth 339904;1380861324;mircea_popescu;by this aergument the russians own the intertnet. 339905;1380861373;asciilifeform;the cream of the russian navy was rusting and irradiating walrus, last i checked 339906;1380861418;asciilifeform;i don't think the ussr lived to get fiber taps right 339907;1380861420;mircea_popescu;that may or may not be. factually however, the cream of the us navy is getting boobjobs and trying to be called chelsea. 339908;1380861421;mircea_popescu;so... 339909;1380861460;assbot;[BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 490 @ 0.00134979 = 0.6614 BTC [+] {5} 339910;1380861484;asciilifeform;i do wonder about the fellows who built 'Glomar Explorer'. all dead/senile by now? 339911;1380861573;thestringpuller;oh wow 339912;1380861578;thestringpuller;people are active 339913;1380861584;thestringpuller;!ticker m s.mpoe 339914;1380861584;assbot;[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00091655 / 0.00092987 / 0.00094023 (116369 shares, 108.21 BTC), 7D: 0.0007725 / 0.00086118 / 0.00094023 (413479 shares, 356.08 BTC), 30D: 0.0007725 / 0.00089704 / 0.00094307 (6497057 shares, 5,828.18 BTC) 339915;1380861643;assbot;[BTCTC] [B] [CIPHERMINE.B1] 208 @ 0.00820384 = 1.7064 BTC [-] {2} 339916;1380862586;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform check this shit out : "Only 517 full time magistrate judges and 42 part-time magistrate judges plus some weirdo who is both magistrate judge and court clerk, as of 2009. Guess there couldnt have been many more in 1993. So Ill start looking for or making that list. Probably start next week because of the blogging thing." 339917;1380863229;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00093391 = 1.681 BTC [+] {2} 339918;1380865974;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 907 @ 0.00093502 = 0.8481 BTC [+] 339919;1380866218;assbot;[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 2474 @ 0.0002 = 0.4948 BTC [-] 339920;1380867682;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00093526 = 2.1511 BTC [+] 339921;1380868231;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1056 @ 0.00093266 = 0.9849 BTC [-] {2} 339922;1380868902;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.94999999 = 9.5 BTC [+] {3} 339923;1380869512;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 229 @ 0.00850002 = 1.9465 BTC [-] {5} 339924;1380870488;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 746 @ 0.00093578 = 0.6981 BTC [+] 339925;1380871037;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.962 = 2.886 BTC [-] 339926;1380872562;assbot;[BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 341 @ 0.00119008 = 0.4058 BTC [-] {2} 339927;1380872928;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1854 @ 0.00093695 = 1.7371 BTC [+] 339928;1380873416;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 187 @ 0.00092992 = 0.1739 BTC [-] 339929;1380874081;Rannasha;So someone just lost 7000 BTC in a single bet at 96% on JD 339930;1380874453;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.962 = 4.81 BTC [-] 339931;1380875185;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 502 @ 0.00092417 = 0.4639 BTC [-] 339932;1380876832;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 579 @ 0.000193 = 0.1117 BTC [-] {2} 339933;1380877137;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1698 @ 0.00093301 = 1.5843 BTC [+] 339934;1380878723;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00093008 = 1.6741 BTC [-] 339935;1380878967;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 66 @ 1.02454545 = 67.62 BTC [+] {5} 339936;1380879333;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 21 @ 1.039 = 21.819 BTC [+] 339937;1380879516;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 1.039 = 20.78 BTC [+] 339938;1380879638;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.04 BTC [+] 339939;1380880492;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 700 @ 0.00093008 = 0.6511 BTC [-] 339940;1380880797;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3270 @ 0.00092288 = 3.0178 BTC [-] 339941;1380881074;jurov;;;bc,convert eur 339942;1380881075;gribble;1 BTC = 132.76999 U.S. dollars = 97.424413 Euros 339943;1380881590;assbot;[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 7 @ 0.01478 = 0.1035 BTC [+] 339944;1380882627;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 89 @ 0.001199 = 0.1067 BTC [-] 339945;1380883237;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [BTC-GOLD] 250 @ 0.0028 = 0.7 BTC [+] 339946;1380883359;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5162 @ 0.00092447 = 4.7721 BTC [+] {2} 339947;1380883664;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00092478 = 2.312 BTC [+] 339948;1380885612;mircea_popescu;hey topace Ukyo http://trilema.com/2013/so-whos-running-the-courts-circus/ give a coin would you ? 339949;1380886165;assbot;[BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 630 @ 0.00119304 = 0.7516 BTC [-] {2} 339950;1380886226;assbot;[BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 170 @ 0.001191 = 0.2025 BTC [-] 339951;1380886470;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 26 @ 0.96399999 = 25.064 BTC [-] {4} 339952;1380886958;assbot;[BTCTC] [B] [CIPHERMINE.B1] 28 @ 0.0082 = 0.2296 BTC [-] 339953;1380887202;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 950 @ 0.00092675 = 0.8804 BTC [+] {2} 339954;1380887887;mircea_popescu;$vwap ^oix 339955;1380887888;mpexbot;mircea_popescu: ^OIX 1 day: no data 7 day: average: 103.17256816 high: 221.93443406 low: 89.5310801 volume: 19 btc: 7.95373126 30 day: no data 339956;1380887898;mircea_popescu;the way that shit works out... 103 huh. 339957;1380887995;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.99999998 = 12 BTC [+] {2} 339958;1380887996;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69348300 BTC to 1`386`966 shares, 50 satoshi per share 339959;1380888056;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 1.083 = 4.332 BTC [+] {2} 339960;1380888239;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 1.11999998 = 11.2 BTC [+] 339961;1380888361;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 1.14057142 = 7.984 BTC [+] {4} 339962;1380888422;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 55 @ 0.00944908 = 0.5197 BTC [+] {2} 339963;1380888483;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 48 @ 0.00948054 = 0.4551 BTC [+] {3} 339964;1380888788;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.PURCHASE] 300 @ 0.00611 = 1.833 BTC [+] 339965;1380889517;ColdHardMetal;MP around? 339966;1380889610;Duffer1;socialism ftw 339967;1380889624;Duffer1;nope doesn't look like he's around 339968;1380889886;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.PURCHASE] 57 @ 0.00610087 = 0.3477 BTC [-] {2} 339969;1380889886;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 600 @ 0.00092203 = 0.5532 BTC [-] {2} 339970;1380891228;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2550 @ 0.00092604 = 2.3614 BTC [+] 339971;1380891594;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1882 @ 0.000195 = 0.367 BTC [-] 339972;1380891594;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2760 @ 0.00092139 = 2.543 BTC [-] 339973;1380891872;ThickAsThieves;;;nethash 339974;1380891873;gribble;1447310.16542 339975;1380891876;ThickAsThieves;;;bcstats 339976;1380891880;ThickAsThieves;;;estimate 339977;1380891889;gribble;Current Blocks: 261668 | Current Difficulty: 1.4881919980509263E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 262079 | Next Difficulty In: 411 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 6 hours, and 3 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 185257911.629 | Estimated Percent Change: 24.48522 339978;1380891889;gribble;Next difficulty estimate | 185257911.629 based on data since last change | 202183809.301 based on data for last three days 339979;1380892571;assbot;[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 252 @ 0.00083807 = 0.2112 BTC [+] {3} 339980;1380893485;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.0012 = 0.12 BTC [+] {2} 339981;1380893790;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1 BTC [+] 339982;1380893851;assbot;[BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 8 @ 0.012575 = 0.1006 BTC [-] {3} 339983;1380893991;plambert;why does campbx have a price limit of 1111.11 dollars? They don't let you put in asks for higher than that amount? 339984;1380894055;topace;plambert: a lot of exchanges have limits 339985;1380894089;plambert;it just seems like a strange number for the limit 339986;1380894090;topace;cavirtex limits the bids to 1/10th of last trade, and the asks to 10 times last trade 339987;1380894583;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 4 @ 0.20025002 = 0.801 BTC [-] {3} 339988;1380895437;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1000 @ 0.0002183 = 0.2183 BTC [+] 339989;1380896291;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 8490 @ 0.0012 = 10.188 BTC [+] 339990;1380896846;mircea_popescu;jurov http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2443656/Bank-error-makes-restaurant-manager-worlds-trillionaire-offered-pay-national-debt-glitch-spotted.html 339991;1380897093;kleeck;If I saw that much cash in my account I'd conver it to BTC ASAP. 339992;1380897226;mod6;lol 404! 339993;1380897301;mod6;;;market --buy 4040404040404 339994;1380897301;gribble;This order would exceed the size of the order book. You would buy 58928.026 bitcoins, for a total of 763585337.8132 USD and take the price to 1793300000.0000. | Data vintage: 13.7287 seconds 339995;1380897389;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 5225 @ 0.0002185 = 1.1417 BTC [+] {2} 339996;1380897455;mike_c;;;bc,24hprc 339997;1380897456;gribble;123.96 339998;1380897491;mircea_popescu;mod6 i was thinking the same thing lol. account not found! 339999;1380897616;mod6;:> 340000;1380897703;mircea_popescu;http://www.cnbc.com/id/101082066 340001;1380897704;ozbot;Wall St. wonders if Obama wants a selloff 340002;1380897707;mircea_popescu;pretty lulzy stuff. 340003;1380897720;kleeck;lolzylicious. 340004;1380897721;mircea_popescu;us president goes "the markets aren't paying enough attention, we are going to default!" 340005;1380897726;mircea_popescu;the markets drop less than 1 %. 340006;1380897740;mircea_popescu;i guess he's not particularly important in the us. 340007;1380897783;kleeck;He needed to get Burnanke to say it, then we'd see a sell off. 340008;1380897785;kleeck;:) 340009;1380897790;VanCleef;trying hard to troll the markets 340010;1380897831;mircea_popescu;bernanke's out anyway. 340011;1380897837;VanCleef;but the marketplace knows oh bummer is always lying so not too much damage 340012;1380897855;kleeck;The markets eat him up though. If you want to crash it, have Burnanke say something negative. 340013;1380897875;plambert;The bank, which asked their customer not to identify them, had made the error during an online banking update - I wonder which bank it was? 340014;1380897983;mircea_popescu;http://www.wcsh6.com/news/watercooler/article/258720/108/Mississippi-bank-mistake-leaves-customers-with-trillion-dollar-deposits 340015;1380897983;ozbot;Mississippi bank mistake leaves customers with trillion dollar deposits | wcsh6.com 340016;1380897989;mircea_popescu;http://5newsonline.com/2013/10/03/bank-error-sends-trillions-to-fort-smith-womans-account/ 340017;1380897994;mircea_popescu;http://swtimes.com/news/bank-glitch-enters-4-trillion-fort-smith-account 340018;1380897995;ozbot;Bank Glitch Enters $4 Trillion To Fort Smith Account | The Times Record 340019;1380897999;mircea_popescu;apparently it's been all over. 340020;1380898004;kleeck;Interesting. 340021;1380898029;kleeck;So, if you have time to remove any amount of that do you get charged or does it qualify as a banking error and they eat the cost? 340022;1380898047;kleeck;(Or deoes FDIC cover it...?) 340023;1380898052;kleeck;does* 340024;1380898118;mircea_popescu;depends how able you are to retain counsel. 340025;1380898131;mircea_popescu;but in general, it's a clerical error, you owe them 340026;1380898144;mircea_popescu;anyway, it was BancorpSouth 340027;1380899219;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1530 @ 0.0002186 = 0.3345 BTC [+] 340028;1380899241;pizzaman1337;hey look, NSA has been targeting tor: http://rt.com/usa/nsa-target-tor-network-739/ 340029;1380899245;pizzaman1337;who knew? :P 340030;1380899310;mircea_popescu;lolk 340031;1380899383;asciilifeform;'owns and operates' counts as 'targeting' now ? 340032;1380899496;mircea_popescu;it;s gotten to the point where pps sheets are classified top secret 340033;1380899584;mircea_popescu;they're classifying boogers and diapers next 340034;1380899707;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4664 @ 0.00087326 = 4.0729 BTC [-] 340035;1380899720;asciilifeform;anyone read the powerpoint crap yet? 340036;1380899726;asciilifeform;it reeks of disinfo 340037;1380899734;pizzaman1337;yeah 340038;1380899741;asciilifeform;no way in hell do these buggers not operate several Tb/sec worth of nodes 340039;1380899743;mircea_popescu;it's what powerpoint is made for, neh ? 340040;1380899957;pizzaman1337;Schneier: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/04/tor-attacks-nsa-users-online-anonymity 340041;1380900092;mircea_popescu;i'm with asciilifeform's suggestion : that pps is prima facie evidence that the nsa is in fact currently decoding ALL traffic passing through all tor nodes, linking it to originating ips and storing this mess. 340042;1380900175;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: interestingly, the 'tor foundation' is a lot like the 'bitcoin foundation' but more so. they have a list of 'authority' nodes that every client prefers by default. 340043;1380900225;mircea_popescu;yeah, it's quite clear that the bitcoin foundation is constructed according to a desgned specification, not unique to it. 340044;1380900272;mircea_popescu;maybe not necessarily clear to the average 27 yo muppet who thinks building php code out of stack exchange snippets makes him a businessman, 340045;1380900282;mircea_popescu;but the trained eye doth see the signs. 340046;1380900290;jcpham;php is so erreeet 340047;1380900303;jcpham;dude! it does everything 340048;1380900321;jcpham;and it's been around for ages, so you know it's secure 340049;1380900325;mircea_popescu;there's nothing wrong with php 340050;1380900346;mircea_popescu;the dorks are the problem. php 340051;1380900347;mircea_popescu;s fine 340052;1380900350;mike_c;there are many things wrong with php 340053;1380900372;jcpham;in today's internet a preprocessor scares me 340054;1380900379;jcpham;no offense, internet 340055;1380900383;mike_c;http://me.veekun.com/blog/2012/04/09/php-a-fractal-of-bad-design/ 340056;1380900384;ozbot;PHP: a fractal of bad design - fuzzy notepad 340057;1380900388;mircea_popescu;dude. it's for serving blogs and stuff like that. 340058;1380900400;mircea_popescu;would you stop torturing things. 340059;1380900418;pankkake;I'm with mike_c. PHP is a language for nihilists 340060;1380900424;zoinky;i remember this php blog post 340061;1380900457;zoinky;wish i saved the one that rebuttals it 340062;1380900484;mike_c;it is so funny though 340063;1380900486;pankkake;there is no rebutal. this is written by someone with years of experience using php 340064;1380900492;mike_c;"You pull out the hammer, but to your dismay, it has the claw part on both sides. Still serviceable though, I mean, you can hit nails with the middle of the head holding it sideways." 340065;1380900532;mircea_popescu;this arguing as to why php is not the best tool to write nuclear power plant supervision tools and spacecraft controlsoftware entirely misses the point. 340066;1380900545;mircea_popescu;php is intended to make the date show in a html page. 340067;1380900557;pankkake;no it's not. many languages can do that 340068;1380900561;pankkake;php is not more simple 340069;1380900566;mircea_popescu;i am not saying it is more simple. 340070;1380900566;kakobrekla;hey hey i use it in my nuclear power plant 340071;1380900579;pankkake;it has no special features for the web 340072;1380900583;mircea_popescu;i am not saying it does. 340073;1380900599;mike_c;pankkake is saying that it does the same thing as other languages, only worse. 340074;1380900615;deizel;is this coint ipo on picostocks for real? 340075;1380900617;mircea_popescu;only worse in ways and areas its userbase doesn't give a shit about. 340076;1380900622;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1612 @ 0.0002185 = 0.3522 BTC [-] 340077;1380900628;mircea_popescu;deizel nothing on picostocks ios for real. 340078;1380900632;pankkake;pretty much. and I've used it a lot - this is why I hate it 340079;1380900633;zoinky;what language would you guys suggest 340080;1380900641;mike_c;+1 for python 340081;1380900651;mircea_popescu;zoinky malbolge implemented in scheme. 340082;1380900651;zoinky;ugh 340083;1380900652;deizel;i'd like to know before putting money into a hacked exchange written in cakephp that doesn't even have the securitycomponent enabled on the login screen 340084;1380900677;mircea_popescu;deizel it's a scam since day one, this is well known, not much to see hiar. 340085;1380900683;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 5000 @ 0.0002 = 1 BTC [-] 340086;1380900691;zoinky;i use php and nodejs in pretty much all my projects, im a huge fan of laravel 340087;1380901120;zoinky;silence o_O 340088;1380901132;kakobrekla;*tumbleweed* 340089;1380901150;kakobrekla;as i said, my nuclear power plant works fine on php. 340090;1380901157;mircea_popescu;lol 340091;1380901179;KRS1;heh 340092;1380901198;mike_c;while pondering the calm, go buy my piddling few ATM options: http://mpex.co/?mpsic=O.USD.C125T 340093;1380901199;zoinky;bitcoin is coded in php, no? 340094;1380901232;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 1 = 2 BTC [-] 340095;1380901234;mircea_popescu;zoinky no, bitcoin is coded in c 340096;1380901237;KRS1;Why can't infrastructure managers use dedicated lines? Are they that keen on saving money that high risk infrastructure be connected to public networks? 340097;1380901258;mircea_popescu;KRS1 public infrastructure is actually safer in principle. 340098;1380901301;VanCleef;is php a scam? 340099;1380901302;KRS1;I disagree..that couldn't possibly be the case. 340100;1380901446;mircea_popescu;KRS1 you secure your communication, not your channel. 340101;1380901456;mircea_popescu;similarly, when you get married you're well advised to marry women you can trust 340102;1380901473;mircea_popescu;rather than spend a lot on making the windows impenetrable and the doors unopenable. 340103;1380901856;afrotec;but that's more fun 340104;1380901903;assbot;[MPEX] [O] [O.USD.C125T] 1 @ 0.3 BTC [+] 340105;1380902079;pankkake;married women doors are usually hard to penetrate 340106;1380902152;mircea_popescu;not as hard as you'd think. 340107;1380902170;pankkake;well, unless you're not the husband of course 340108;1380902689;Kushedout;Anyone know what this is all about? https://picostocks.com/stocks/view/31 cause it doesn't look legit http://i.imgur.com/ZMf6Lvt.png 340109;1380902770;mircea_popescu;Kushedout http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/#340074 340110;1380902868;mike_c;picostocks is the php of btc exchanges. 340111;1380903042;Kushedout;There is nothing in the logs besides someone asking the same question and you bashing. 340112;1380903058;jcpham;"picostocks is a scam" 340113;1380903064;jcpham;that's what i gleaned 340114;1380903079;jcpham;unsure if true or not, but apparently the IPO is fraud 340115;1380903306;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 3757 @ 0.0002199 = 0.8262 BTC [+] 340116;1380903424;mircea_popescu;i'm not "bashing", newb. 340117;1380903550;mircea_popescu;jcpham they had the 100th scam ipo and a bunch of others. par for the course. 340118;1380903567;kakobrekla;for various amounts of scam 340119;1380903571;jcpham;i thought all the ipo's were scams 340120;1380903583;jcpham;does the asset exchange really make it less or more of a scam 340121;1380903631;mircea_popescu;some websites masquerading as exchanges specialise in listing scams/ 340122;1380903641;mircea_popescu;picostocks thing is such a website masquerading as an exchange. 340123;1380903855;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2000 @ 0.00022 = 0.44 BTC [+] 340124;1380903916;jcpham;that's right buy all that labcoin 340125;1380904072;LorenzoMoney;is labcoin a scam or what? 340126;1380904077;LorenzoMoney;does ANYONE know the real story? 340127;1380904099;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 0.405 = 0.81 BTC [+] {2} 340128;1380904100;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 0.14299991 BTC [-] 340129;1380904172;pankkake;doesn't matter. even if everything labcoin says is true it is still a scam 340130;1380904174;mircea_popescu;this real story bs. 340131;1380904178;kakobrekla;amazing company is what it is. 340132;1380904178;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 340133;1380904214;mircea_popescu;what's the "real story" ? the movie of how some boy in ghana couldn't afford to buy his sweetheart shoes so he hatched a plan to build an internet paper empire ? 340134;1380904262;kakobrekla;so if slovenia means somalia ghana means italy?! 340135;1380904363;mircea_popescu;lol got me there. 340136;1380904364;mircea_popescu;i guess this is correct. 340137;1380904398;mircea_popescu;btw, anyone saw the news item about the boatload of african refugees trying to get to europe that had no cellphones and since the boat was leaking 340138;1380904408;mircea_popescu;they started a fire to get people's attention 340139;1380904422;mircea_popescu;which burned their tub do the ground err... not to the ground really. to sea level. 340140;1380904428;pankkake;lol that was why? 340141;1380904460;mircea_popescu;The disaster occurred when the boat's motor stopped working and the vessel began to take on water, Italian Interior Minister Angelino Alfano said. 340142;1380904460;mircea_popescu;People on board burned a sheet to attract the attention of rescuers, starting a fire on board. 340143;1380904465;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 790 @ 0.000226 = 0.1785 BTC [+] 340144;1380904466;pankkake;the real question is why would somalians want to go to italy 340145;1380904477;mircea_popescu;because welfare state. 340146;1380904506;pankkake;of one of the most broke eu countries 340147;1380904533;mircea_popescu;i suspect broke means different things in different places. 340148;1380904533;pankkake;but I get it - there are a lot of myths of money growing on trees 340149;1380904555;mircea_popescu;besides, from italy they can get to monaco 340150;1380904556;pankkake;so we get migrants who go to France to get all that free money 340151;1380904557;asciilifeform;afaik once you're in the eu, you can wander off to some other eu country 340152;1380904562;pankkake;turns out, there is no such free money 340153;1380904562;mircea_popescu;^ 340154;1380904691;mircea_popescu;pankkake at least there's free cheese. 340155;1380904709;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00086947 = 1.9998 BTC [-] 340156;1380905023;skinnkavaj;Is labcoin scam or not? 340157;1380905075;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 150 @ 0.0029 = 0.435 BTC [-] {2} 340158;1380905077;kakobrekla;skinnkavaj http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/#340125 340159;1380905099;kakobrekla;follow that link on the end! 340160;1380905138;skinnkavaj;kakobrekla: oh wow thanks im on tv 340161;1380905145;kakobrekla;:D 340162;1380905318;mircea_popescu;lol 340163;1380905327;mircea_popescu;is this the result of the forum croaking ? 340164;1380905341;kakobrekla;dunno 340165;1380905343;mircea_popescu;and incidentally, how come there's not a half dozen bitcoin busionessmen starting their own retardstalk ? 340166;1380905351;kakobrekla;maybe 5 or 10 users more here than regularly 340167;1380905356;mircea_popescu;where have all the jesuses gone ? 340168;1380905446;mircea_popescu;http://www.youtube.com/embed/8zrBQqs7waA 340169;1380905447;ozbot;Marlene Dietrich - Where have all the flowers gone? - YouTube 340170;1380905807;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1657 @ 0.000226 = 0.3745 BTC [+] 340171;1380905868;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1114 @ 0.00023409 = 0.2608 BTC [+] {2} 340172;1380905929;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 53 @ 0.00949799 = 0.5034 BTC [+] {2} 340173;1380905947;pankkake;every time I see a + on labcoin… http://totoz.eu/img/flu12345678 340174;1380905990;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 14 @ 0.009498 = 0.133 BTC [+] 340175;1380906051;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 486 @ 0.0052 = 2.5272 BTC [-] 340176;1380906234;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 16820 @ 0.00025576 = 4.3019 BTC [+] {12} 340177;1380906357;ThickAsThieves; and incidentally, how come there's not a half dozen bitcoin busionessmen starting their own retardstalk ? <<<< I was pondering this while on the shitter this morning 340178;1380906365;pankkake;assbot: now you're just trying to get me mad 340179;1380906369;ThickAsThieves;great time for someone to dethrone btctalk 340180;1380906377;mircea_popescu;ideally multiple someones. 340181;1380906386;pankkake;why would you want to create another forum? 340182;1380906386;jcpham;rumor is eligius is working on a new forum 340183;1380906386;mircea_popescu;afaik that's theymos' idea anyway 340184;1380906397;jcpham;i told them i'd moderate if it doesn't suck 340185;1380906401;jcpham;the new forum that is 340186;1380906411;pankkake;moderators suck 340187;1380906417;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3317 @ 0.00087238 = 2.8937 BTC [+] 340188;1380906417;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 169 @ 0.00511927 = 0.8652 BTC [-] {3} 340189;1380906423;pankkake;and most forum software suck 340190;1380906423;jcpham;fisrt ban goes to pankkake 340191;1380906427;ThickAsThieves;everyone sucks in a forum 340192;1380906435;pankkake;jcpham: yay 340193;1380906441;jcpham;lolololo 340194;1380906457;jcpham;i support pre-banning 340195;1380906472;pankkake;there's a forum I've been on for 10+ years, I think I have been banned for 3 of those years 340196;1380906474;Doctor_Andonuts;ThickAsThieves: have you done all the btct -> other exhchange transfers? I know your busy, just curious 340197;1380906478;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 670 @ 0.0002648 = 0.1774 BTC [+] {2} 340198;1380906509;ThickAsThieves;Doc, I just got home from 2 weeks of travelling 340199;1380906516;ThickAsThieves;you'll know when they are done 340200;1380906526;ThickAsThieves;i promise i won't keep it a secret ;) 340201;1380906547;Doctor_Andonuts;Awesome, not complaining at all. Just want to make sure I wasnt missed or if I messed something up =D 340202;1380906547;kleeck;How was Cyprus? 340203;1380906553;ThickAsThieves;basically it will be the bulk of my time for the next few days 340204;1380906558;ThickAsThieves;Cyprus was great 340205;1380906562;kakobrekla;jcpham some religious pricks forum eh? 340206;1380906578;kakobrekla;i wouldnt hang out with child molesters 340207;1380906590;ThickAsThieves;got to participate in a few days of meetings between Neo and partners, etc 340208;1380906599;ThickAsThieves;got to see the offices and storefront 340209;1380906630;ThickAsThieves;Cyprus itself was surprisingly dry 340210;1380906631;kleeck;Awesome! How's it look? 340211;1380906638;ThickAsThieves;the office look great 340212;1380906639;kleeck;(NeoBee) 340213;1380906641;ThickAsThieves;it's all nnew build 340214;1380906646;ThickAsThieves;very modern 340215;1380906664;ThickAsThieves;much bigger space than comes across in the photos 340216;1380906758;Doctor_Andonuts;Thats sweet 340217;1380906783;assbot;[BTCTC] [B] [CIPHERMINE.B1] 19 @ 0.00827889 = 0.1573 BTC [-] {2} 340218;1380906867;jurov;in re: bitcointalk, there is already https://www.bitcoinforum.com/ and i'm using it for coinbr support for quite some time 340219;1380906892;jurov;now if everyone stopped ignoring its existence... 340220;1380906907;pankkake;but why would we use that forum? 340221;1380906956;mircea_popescu;jurov who's running it ? 340222;1380907010;mircea_popescu;omfg all the icons and shit. 340223;1380907018;mircea_popescu;this forum is giving me dyslexia. 340224;1380907047;pankkake;you can sign up with your "social media account", yay 340225;1380907067;jurov;i did not research their backgroud... even if it's UC, i don't care 340226;1380907091;jurov;dude was nice, made me subforum with admin access and that's all i needed 340227;1380907193;mircea_popescu;well here's to hoping there'll be a bunch of these and that's tyhat. 340228;1380907210;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1100 @ 0.00087238 = 0.9596 BTC [+] 340229;1380907232;thestringpuller;lol giving you dyslexia 340230;1380907264;lewicki;free muay thai skin for lol for anyone that's interested: 340231;1380907266;lewicki;http://na.alienwarearena.com/giveaways/muay-thai-lee-sin-groups-giveaway 340232;1380907296;ThickAsThieves;i wouldnt mind if the concept of the "official forum thread" went away 340233;1380907347;kleeck;nice lewicki - love me some jungle Lee Sin. 340234;1380907407;Apocalyptic;ThickAsThieves, nor would I 340235;1380907469;jurov;and re the trillionaire, mpex made me temporarily rich to some 10^20 magnitude.. no bank can come close 340236;1380907480;jurov;banks dont use bigints 340237;1380907517;asciilifeform;jurov: judging by the 'trillionaire' snafu, they still use BCD. 340238;1380907633;pankkake;http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/news/video/amd-puts-r9-290x-pre-orders-live-asks-for-200-deposit/ litecoin mining has its preorders too! 340239;1380907634;ozbot;AMD Puts R9-290X Pre-Orders Live; Asks for $200 Deposit | Hardware Canucks 340240;1380907642;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves it's a liability anyway, all the scammers paying you five btc or w/e to have the airs of respectability... not so good. 340241;1380907751;mircea_popescu;classical math problem : 340242;1380907799;mircea_popescu;"Triginta tibi sunt pueri totidemque puellae: Una est nec surgit mentula. Quid facies?" 340243;1380907820;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.36000001 BTC [-] 340244;1380907834;mircea_popescu;roughly speaking, "you've got thirty boys and that many girls. you've got one cock and it won't stand up. what to do ?" 340245;1380908099;jurov;have its connection reset by peer? 340246;1380908186;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 300 @ 0.00087238 = 0.2617 BTC [+] 340247;1380908229;thestringpuller;!ticker m ^OIX 340248;1380908229;assbot;[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 89.5310801 / 103.17256816 / 221.93443406 (19 shares, 7.95 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC) 340249;1380908247;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.01428571 = 7.1 BTC [+] {4} 340250;1380908248;mircea_popescu;lol 340251;1380908308;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 0.14299991 BTC [-] 340252;1380908397;jurov;https://bitcoinera.net/ 6% monthly interest.. who is this? 340253;1380908399;ozbot;Bitcoin Wallet | Online Bitcoin Wallet & Investing in Bitcoin - 6% monthly on your bitcoin deposits 340254;1380908430;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.0275 = 2.055 BTC [+] {2} 340255;1380908436;jurov;proudly writte in PHP 340256;1380908484;kleeck;PHP IS FOR PLEBS 340257;1380908497;pankkake;proudly, really? :/ 340258;1380908509;jurov;Contact Person: Christoph Zeras 340259;1380908523;jurov;Address:444 Brickell Ave Miami Florida 340260;1380908544;mircea_popescu;Regretfully written in PHP 340261;1380908552;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 46 @ 0.00858109 = 0.3947 BTC [-] {3} 340262;1380908555;jurov;phone's there. too 340263;1380908573;mircea_popescu;"We express our condoleances to ourselves for having made this website." 340264;1380908613;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 104 @ 0.00851046 = 0.8851 BTC [-] {4} 340265;1380908614;pankkake;"6% monthly", "low risk" 340266;1380908667;jurov;Of course bitcoinera.net also offers industry standard security, SSL certificates, AES hard disk encryption, hashed passwords, offline cold storage and transaction PINs which makes it one of the most secure online bitcoin wallets available. 340267;1380908679;mircea_popescu;derp. 340268;1380908699;mircea_popescu;incidentally, for all the roiling against php i can't believe nobody's saying anything about ubuntu's gedit. 340269;1380908704;jurov;"industry standard" we know so well what's bitcoin industry standard 340270;1380908713;mircea_popescu;i do not think i have seen a more braindamaged piece of software since the days of windows 3.1 340271;1380908730;jurov;you can avoid it unlike php 340272;1380908739;mircea_popescu;;;google bitdaytrade industry standard 340273;1380908740;gribble;Alberto Armandi - Hong Kong | LinkedIn: ; Bitcoin Websites - Google Drive - Google Docs: 340274;1380908776;mircea_popescu;jurov i thought people objected at other people using it. 340275;1380908815;kakobrekla;AA's reality is distorted 340276;1380908862;mircea_popescu;somewha 340277;1380908863;mircea_popescu;t 340278;1380908918;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 23 @ 0.36000001 = 8.28 BTC [-] 340279;1380909040;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 1.09 BTC [+] 340280;1380909101;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 39 @ 0.14299991 = 5.577 BTC [-] 340281;1380909458;KRS1;damn pigeons 340282;1380909467;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [BTC-GROWTH] 103 @ 0.08479912 = 8.7343 BTC [+] {4} 340283;1380909561;pankkake;I wouldn't trust it, it does not have "Protected against SQL injections by escaping all possible user input" in its serucity measures 340284;1380909589;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [BTC-GROWTH] 15 @ 0.08499 = 1.2749 BTC [+] 340285;1380909589;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5733 @ 0.00087182 = 4.9981 BTC [-] {2} 340286;1380909618;kakobrekla;6% a month, new PIBOR rate 340287;1380909631;mircea_popescu;pewpewbor 340288;1380909856;thestringpuller;lol isn't mpex.co written in php? 340289;1380909867;thestringpuller;buildin' tables with echo statements mr. popescu 340290;1380909895;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3050 @ 0.00086492 = 2.638 BTC [-] {2} 340291;1380909942;mircea_popescu;malboge 340292;1380909982;asciilifeform;befunge. 340293;1380910133;mircea_popescu;is that stack based malboge ? 340294;1380910153;asciilifeform;2d grid instead of linear flow. 340295;1380910166;asciilifeform;http://esolangs.org/wiki/Befunge 340296;1380910167;ozbot;Befunge - Esolang 340297;1380910176;mircea_popescu;o 340298;1380910391;thestringpuller;Malbolge was so difficult to understand when it arrived that it took two years for the first Malbolge program to appear. The first Malbolge program was not written by a human being, it was generated by a beam search algorithm designed by Andrew Cooke and implemented in Lisp.[1] 340299;1380910809;assbot;[BTCTC] [B] [CIPHERMINE.B1] 113 @ 0.0082 = 0.9266 BTC [-] 340300;1380911257;jurov;lol but having useful code written in malbolge... maybe it could be treated as black box then 340301;1380911308;jurov;but perhaps imprisonment and torture of phd students must me involved 340302;1380911313;mircea_popescu;jurov or the fbi could ask for the keys. 340303;1380911364;jurov;what keys? when the programmers will get insane, not even fbi will get keys 340304;1380911407;jurov;but maybe they'll waterboard knuth in turn... 340305;1380911426;jurov;or hire reiser 340306;1380911441;ieatcows;just saw this update if anyone is an ADDICTION holder. --- Some good news at last! As we speak, 9 miners are on their way to our datacenter. Since we don't trust UPS ;) (and UPS does not deliver on the weekends) we are picking them up ourselves :) We picked them up this afternoon so they should arrive in the morning (European time) where we will have them hashing asap! 340307;1380911471;jurov;ieatcows: how many ths? 340308;1380911546;ieatcows;the summary says 4.2 TH but I'm not sure if they factored in the fact that the KNC miners do more than 500 GH since they wrote the summary 340309;1380911812;pankkake;;;bc,stats 340310;1380911815;gribble;Current Blocks: 261707 | Current Difficulty: 1.4881919980509263E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 262079 | Next Difficulty In: 372 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 1 hour, 36 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 184991384.841 | Estimated Percent Change: 24.30613 340311;1380911908;mircea_popescu;so there's a new mpex asset : http://mpex.co/?mpsic=S.NSA 340312;1380911915;pankkake;next 2 weeks: 5 min blocks? 340313;1380911923;pankkake;lol NSA 340314;1380911947;asciilifeform;whee 340315;1380911968;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 34 @ 0.00852001 = 0.2897 BTC [-] 340316;1380911976;mircea_popescu;i plan to make a post tomorrow detailing what the plan is, 340317;1380911988;mircea_popescu;but if anyone has questions good idea to ask anyway. 340318;1380912001;pankkake;so, what is this thing? 340319;1380912017;jcpham;fuck that i'm not beggin for an explanation 340320;1380912030;mircea_popescu;pankkake a manufacturer of crypto items 340321;1380912052;pankkake;could you be more vague? 340322;1380912083;kakobrekla;he can. 340323;1380912091;pankkake;I have no doubts 340324;1380912091;mircea_popescu;yeah but it'd take straining 340325;1380912116;pankkake;anyway, we know all that is needed is a name and a logo 340326;1380912120;mircea_popescu;it's what it is tho, make integrated hardware-and-software products that make absolute guarantees 340327;1380912148;mircea_popescu;such as, "as long as you use gizmo X, there is no way for anyone to listen in to your coversation. no matter what." 340328;1380912178;mircea_popescu;or "as long as you use gizmo Y, your data will be absolutely destroyed if you fart. no exceptions." 340329;1380912191;jcpham;not sure if to laugh or cry 340330;1380912226;pankkake;so things that free software can do better anyway? 340331;1380912240;mircea_popescu;this would include hardware and software, for one. 340332;1380912282;mircea_popescu;and for the other, take lavabit as a convenient example. the theoretical privacy offered by the service depended on a godaddy ssl cert and the owner's resistance to fbi court orders. 340333;1380912307;mircea_popescu;the idea is to make objects which depend on no externality. as long as they function, they function securely, and this as a matter of fact rather than convention. 340334;1380912314;pankkake;no hosted email service can guarantee privacy 340335;1380912318;mircea_popescu;exactly. 340336;1380912332;pankkake;so, a home email server, for example? 340337;1380912351;pankkake;I've seen projects like that, interesting, but sadly not going anywhere 340338;1380912353;mircea_popescu;something like that would theoretically qualify, i suppose. 340339;1380912379;asciilifeform;pankkake: more like a spoon. the latter is guaranteed not to stab you in the eye spontaneously, if used as prescribed. by pure physical fact of it being what it is. 340340;1380912391;kakobrekla;https://github.com/Bit-Wasp/BitWasp 340341;1380912418;kakobrekla;go! 340342;1380912419;pankkake;> php 340343;1380912439;mircea_popescu;"BitWasp is an open source project which aims to lower the barrier for anyone to set up there own secure, anonymous marketplace. " 340344;1380912441;mircea_popescu;great aim. 340345;1380912441;kakobrekla;php can kick you off this chan 340346;1380912458;mircea_popescu;the lower the barriers the better the movie. bring popcorns. 340347;1380912460;pankkake;also, CodeIgniter 340348;1380912497;pankkake;well, the SR fiasco tells us that the marketplace admin should be highly knowledgable 340349;1380912515;pankkake;make it some easy php thing, and it's going to be a lot of failures 340350;1380912517;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 1.08 BTC [-] 340351;1380912586;pankkake;the only way I could see it working, is that if it came with professional support 340352;1380912609;mircea_popescu;from whom. 340353;1380912615;pankkake;the developers 340354;1380912624;mircea_popescu;pankkake http://trilema.com/2012/probably-the-hottest-business-idea-of-the-moment-in-btc/ 340355;1380912626;mircea_popescu;that was 2012. 340356;1380912644;asciilifeform;pankkake: does a spoon come with professional support? believe it or not, it is possible to build an artifact which functions as described, until it is physically destroyed. 340357;1380912651;pankkake;ah well, I thought about it a few days ago 340358;1380912668;mircea_popescu;"All help and contributions in getting Bitwasp completed are very much appreciated as the time of the lead developers is currently very limited." 340359;1380912673;pankkake;asciilifeform: I'm not talking about your idea, but about bitwasp 340360;1380912694;pankkake;though if it's software, you have the issue of updating it 340361;1380912716;mircea_popescu;i wonder if there's some underground forum distributing teenage cunt and assorted pills to people on the basis of how many lead developer roles they fail to fill. 340362;1380912735;asciilifeform;pankkake: when's the last time you updated the software in your microwave oven? 340363;1380912749;pankkake;you know it's not the same thing 340364;1380912759;pankkake;and the microwave does not take complex imput from strangers 340365;1380912761;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 134 @ 0.00914463 = 1.2254 BTC [+] {3} 340366;1380912788;mircea_popescu;okay, when's the last time you updated the software in your girlfriend ? 340367;1380912799;pankkake;mircea_popescu: pretty much all those community project fail. see diaspora for one of the best examples 340368;1380912810;mircea_popescu;no argument. 340369;1380912822;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 84 @ 0.00949797 = 0.7978 BTC [+] {2} 340370;1380912823;pankkake;mircea_popescu: I wish that was possible, because they were all very defective 340371;1380912842;pankkake;beta versions I guess 340372;1380912855;mircea_popescu;lol 340373;1380912883;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 170 @ 0.00949887 = 1.6148 BTC [+] 340374;1380912940;mircea_popescu;vaguely related : http://trilema.com/2009/de-interfonibus/ 2009 article explaining how to hack in the building access intercom so as to get other people's calls. 340375;1380913027;pankkake;I haven't been able to figure out what OpenTranscations actually is 340376;1380913103;mircea_popescu;me either. i've probably been at it longer than you. i think we will die and it will endure mysterious. 340377;1380913243;Apocalyptic;pankkake, as in mtgox's withdrawal form ? 340378;1380913248;ThickAsThieves;Just found a couple bitcoins in an old BitStamp account, they won't let me withdraw until I do AML 340379;1380913266;pankkake;Apocalyptic: http://opentransactions.org/ 340380;1380913272;ThickAsThieves;pretty retarded considering that I never actually bought or sold btc with the account 340381;1380913310;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 199 @ 0.00084192 = 0.1675 BTC [+] {4} 340382;1380913394;pankkake;ThickAsThieves: do they force it for the Ripple widthdrawal too? 340383;1380913423;ThickAsThieves;dunno 340384;1380913431;ThickAsThieves;i'm not gonna try and find out 340385;1380913432;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5144 @ 0.0008719 = 4.4851 BTC [+] {3} 340386;1380913437;ThickAsThieves;gonna do AML 340387;1380913455;ThickAsThieves;I realized with this recent crash I need more quick ways to trade 340388;1380913486;pankkake;I'm still trying to reverify my bitcoin-central account, they seem to want a new document every day 340389;1380913493;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.03 = 2.06 BTC [+] 340390;1380913496;kakobrekla;lol 340391;1380913505;pankkake;most of them being very easy to fake, but whatever 340392;1380913583;mircea_popescu;fake documents are bad mmkay ? 340393;1380913615;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00999899 = 0.4999 BTC [+] 340394;1380913619;pankkake;> trusting a piece of paper 340395;1380913621;asciilifeform;i often wonder if all the jokers demanding documents are doing so to feed honeypots like the late SR 340396;1380913646;ThickAsThieves;BitFunder will probly be next 340397;1380913657;ThickAsThieves;Weex already allows AML submission 340398;1380913669;asciilifeform;inevitably some moron succumbs to the temptation of buying false papers, he buys from a stoolie; and game over. 340399;1380913737;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.03 BTC [+] 340400;1380913744;dexX7;bitstamp did this step like 2 months ago or so 340401;1380913794;dexX7;by the way ThickAsThieves: do you still process btct am -> am1? 340402;1380913808;ThickAsThieves;Yes 340403;1380913822;dexX7;good to know, thanks 340404;1380913834;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform indeed it was never explained just how the fake ids dpr guy bought were discovered in the mail. 340405;1380913843;mircea_popescu;just you know... glossed over. 340406;1380913859;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 437 @ 0.00087387 = 0.3819 BTC [+] 340407;1380913991;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: possibly something like this: http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/07/open-market/ 340408;1380914069;asciilifeform;no need to 'discover' anything when a stoolie is in fact doing the forgeries. 340409;1380914226;dexX7;ThickAsThieves: is there a cutoff date for transfers? 340410;1380914251;ThickAsThieves;well BTCT closes on Monday right? 340411;1380914260;ThickAsThieves;so this weekend would make sense 340412;1380914283;dexX7;yes and afaik burnside is going to convert all remaining shares to direct shares on the 10th 340413;1380914293;dexX7;weekend is fine :) 340414;1380914774;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1850 @ 0.00086702 = 1.604 BTC [-] 340415;1380915018;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1 BTC [-] 340416;1380915107;pizzaman1337;so, the SR BTC is to be liquidated? http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2013/10/04/fbi-silk-road-bitcoin-seizure/ 340417;1380915150;mircea_popescu;lol he gave them the keys ? 340418;1380915171;pizzaman1337;"The FBI has not been able to get to Ulbricht’s personal Bitcoin yet. “That’s like another $80 million worth,” she said, explaining that it was held separately and is encrypted." 340419;1380915178;pankkake;yes, he seems to make it a point of doing everything wrong 340420;1380915187;Diablo-D3;wow 340421;1380915195;pankkake;hm, that's better 340422;1380915201;assbot;[BTCTC] [BMF] 9 @ 0.0151 = 0.1359 BTC [+] 340423;1380915241;asciilifeform;big deal, rectothermal cryptoanalysis until he upchucks the key. 340424;1380915256;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform it;s not worth it to them. 340425;1380915273;asciilifeform;didn't say it will be a government official inserting the iron 340426;1380915274;pankkake;well, if I had that much bitcoins, I'd use passwordless security 340427;1380915295;asciilifeform;just whoever has unsupervised access to DPR's sorry carcass in the near future. 340428;1380915339;mircea_popescu;mebbe. 340429;1380915340;Diablo-D3;that isnt even a lot of money when it comes to the government 340430;1380915375;pankkake;redditors went all "it will pay the gov debt" 340431;1380915392;asciilifeform;pankkake: it will go to the same place where the cocaine went. 340432;1380915445;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.03 BTC [+] 340433;1380915519;asciilifeform;wouldn't it be funny if the 27k btc walked away sometime? 340434;1380915532;asciilifeform;https://blockchain.info/address/1F1tAaz5x1HUXrCNLbtMDqcw6o5GNn4xqX 340435;1380915533;ozbot;Bitcoin Address 1F1tAaz5x1HUXrCNLbtMDqcw6o5GNn4xqX 340436;1380915556;mircea_popescu;the irony, of course, is that so far this quite strengthens bitcoin. 340437;1380915573;mircea_popescu;on one hand, the govt taking the trouble to peel some of the bottom layers of idiot muppets off btc is great. 340438;1380915581;mircea_popescu;on the other, 30k less btc can't hurt anything. 340439;1380915585;kleeck;^ 340440;1380915594;kleeck;When I saw "liquidate" I was happy. 340441;1380915604;pankkake;what does liquidate mean? 340442;1380915622;kleeck;Exterminate, exterminate, exterminate! 340443;1380915663;pankkake;anyway, it certainly be a manual of "what not to do" for the next silk roads 340444;1380915669;deadweasel;fucking daleks, the lot of you. 340445;1380915676;deadweasel;;) 340446;1380915689;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00086826 = 1.5629 BTC [+] {2} 340447;1380915691;skinnkavaj;Hey doesn't anyone think ADDICTION on bitfunder is a great buy? The kncminers are arriving, they just posted news. Has anyone done any calculations how much those shares can make in divends lately? 340448;1380915708;pankkake;skinnkavaj: do it yourself 340449;1380915717;mircea_popescu;skinnkavaj nobody seemed to have cared so far. 340450;1380915720;skinnkavaj;pankkake: Trying 340451;1380915724;pankkake;http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/ 340452;1380915728;ozbot;Mining Dashboard - The Genesis Block 340453;1380915730;kleeck;"can some1 maths 4 meh plox thnx" 340454;1380915731;skinnkavaj;Reading cached version of bitcointalk now 340455;1380915734;skinnkavaj;Please help me calculate 340456;1380915777;mircea_popescu;pankkake actually that;'s a pretty nice link. 340457;1380915777;pankkake;I'm pretty sure no one is going to sell it at a good price for you anyway 340458;1380915793;pankkake;mircea_popescu: it's the *only* calculator that doesn't suck 340459;1380915795;skinnkavaj;1 share is 32mhash 340460;1380915812;pankkake;or the one that sucks the less 340461;1380915814;skinnkavaj;Where can i find calculator for how much 1mhash will bring in? 340462;1380915818;mircea_popescu;Bitfury (EU)0.78 / Bitfury (EU)0.15 340463;1380915819;mircea_popescu;da fuck ? 340464;1380915823;mircea_popescu;it's not normalised or somerthing ? 340465;1380915883;mircea_popescu;;;genrate 32000 340466;1380915886;gribble;The expected generation output, at 32000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 148819199.805, is 0.108137985871 BTC per day and 0.00450574941127 BTC per hour. 340467;1380915941;mircea_popescu;bejesus, 320 gh/s makes 1 btc a day. 340468;1380915949;skinnkavaj;Seems not worth it 340469;1380915954;skinnkavaj;with current share price 340470;1380915955;mircea_popescu;i remember when the entire network was like, 30gh 340471;1380916030;pankkake;http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/a/d1afeb43fa if I'm not mistaken, at 0.01 a share of 32 mhash, it's a loss 340472;1380916036;ozbot;Mining Dashboard - The Genesis Block 340473;1380916238;assbot;[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.17 BTC [-] 340474;1380916242;pankkake;if I ever encounter a time machine, the only thing I'd bring with me is a block erupter 340475;1380916360;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1000 @ 0.001216 = 1.216 BTC [-] {2} 340476;1380916361;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1400 @ 0.00086702 = 1.2138 BTC [-] 340477;1380916411;ThickAsThieves;so is this BitFury marketplace TradeFortress' new thing? 340478;1380916444;ThickAsThieves;https://www.cex.io/promo/?src=bitv 340479;1380916494;mircea_popescu;"CEX.IO is the first and leading commodity exchange in the Bitcoin community. Here you can buy or sell GHashes" 340480;1380916503;mircea_popescu;duide the bullshit. it's the fourth generation. 340481;1380916532;ThickAsThieves;bitcoin is a commodity bro! 340482;1380916533;mircea_popescu;Ukto tried to run something called hashpower after pirate's coin minter scam support thing floundered, and THAT was 2nd generation 340483;1380916581;kakobrekla;but it didnt work 340484;1380916581;mircea_popescu;by now this "we're the first" and the "we're the largest" markers are pretty clear indications of dipshit 20something year old deadpirateroberts-ism. 340485;1380916584;kakobrekla;cause it was no ponzi powered 340486;1380916593;jborkl;that isnt the first- gpumax did that 340487;1380916628;ThickAsThieves;if it is TF's thing, he paid like 210btc to advertise in btctalk 340488;1380916633;ThickAsThieves;waste of money 340489;1380916645;kakobrekla;O_o 340490;1380916648;jborkl;what is btctalk? 340491;1380916652;jborkl;never heard of it 340492;1380916653;ThickAsThieves;forum 340493;1380916654;kakobrekla;what is btc? 340494;1380916664;jborkl;? 340495;1380916666;ThickAsThieves;scam 340496;1380916667;kakobrekla;?? 340497;1380916669;jborkl;never heard of it 340498;1380916674;ThickAsThieves;butcointalk 340499;1380916678;kakobrekla;what is heard? 340500;1380916686;ThickAsThieves;who is this is? 340501;1380916696;mircea_popescu;lmao 210 btc ? srsly ?! 340502;1380916708;ThickAsThieves;yeah he bought 7 spots at 30btcv ea 340503;1380916713;mircea_popescu;there's something amiss here. that thing isn't going to make 200 btc over its lifetime. 340504;1380916714;dexX7;lol yup 340505;1380916730;kakobrekla;this is called bflism 340506;1380916735;kakobrekla;bashing those ads 340507;1380916736;pankkake;unless he's also selling his own stuff? 340508;1380916741;ThickAsThieves;my guess is he urgently wanted to get it out there due to diff rising 340509;1380916744;pankkake;though I don't even really understand what it is 340510;1380916753;mircea_popescu;if we're going to discover theymos was faking his auctions cognitive style... 340511;1380916769;ThickAsThieves;actually TF opened his bid at that 340512;1380916774;kakobrekla;lol 340513;1380916782;kakobrekla;;;seen tradefortress 340514;1380916783;gribble;tradefortress was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 weeks, 1 day, 2 hours, 38 minutes, and 19 seconds ago: Graet, that's technically correct, it's just part of the demo. 340515;1380916783;jborkl;lol, garr225 right? 340516;1380916796;kakobrekla;he dun like irc 340517;1380916797;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves the only way it makes sense to be paying 200 btc to advertise on btctalk ius if you're not paying 200 btc. 340518;1380916802;pankkake;you can't really fake auctions though. it's mostly psychological 340519;1380916816;ThickAsThieves;like orgasms? 340520;1380916819;mircea_popescu;lol 340521;1380916833;mircea_popescu;but srsly, it'd be more cost effective to buy 1 kilo of coke from the fbi 340522;1380916840;mircea_popescu;and send it in baggies to your prospective customers. 340523;1380916848;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [LABCO] [PAID] 0.03950968 BTC to 40`316 shares, 98 satoshi per share 340524;1380916908;ThickAsThieves;maybe it's just his roundabout way of selling PMBs 340525;1380916938;jborkl;where is all this KNC hardware that was supposed to be out? 340526;1380916961;jborkl;without the forum, how am I supposed to keep up with scams 340527;1380916971;pankkake;eh, people seem to be getting it actually 340528;1380916971;Au-WireBeard;Has KNC started hosting hardware yet? 340529;1380916973;ThickAsThieves;ask reddit? 340530;1380916977;ThickAsThieves;ask Knc? 340531;1380916999;jborkl;from what I have seen, they have not answered on the knc forum in 4 days 340532;1380917025;ThickAsThieves;well they were of course mining with it themselves for a bit before shipping 340533;1380917032;ThickAsThieves;so probably wont affect nethash 340534;1380917045;pankkake;https://bitfunder.com/asset/ADDICTION#pane_news 9 miners! 340535;1380917051;Au-WireBeard;So much for having the facility setup and ready to go before th chips arrive 340536;1380917092;assbot;[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 16 @ 0.009989 = 0.1598 BTC [+] 340537;1380917097;pankkake;from what I understand, they're doing it in the order of all orders, so hosted mining won't go before regular orders 340538;1380917234;pankkake;http://forum.kncminer.com/forum/main-category/acccounts/4259-i-got-my-tracking-number-%7B%7B-post-here-when-you-do-%7D%7D 340539;1380917237;ozbot;I got my tracking number {{ POST HERE WHEN YOU DO }} 340540;1380917655;pankkake;http://cointerra.com/coolit-systems-selected-cointerra-partner-liquid-cooling-solutions/ that's actually more interesting to me than their fpga demo 340541;1380917797;thestringpuller;fmlafjlkeajfleawjflkajwekrwkflajfkjfljawkakjfl;lawfl;jwljejvlwg;fjw 340542;1380917812;ThickAsThieves;thestringpuller got a cat 340543;1380917826;jurov;or misfapped 340544;1380917867;thestringpuller;my cat ran over the keyboard 340545;1380917931;jurov;he'd never admit anyway 340546;1380917956;ThickAsThieves;the cat typed "fml" & "flea" 340547;1380918052;Au-WireBeard;So theymos is finally using that donation fund to upgrade the forums? Or just place bounties here and there? 340548;1380918078;benkay_;thestringpuller: https://soundcloud.com/mslaurynhill/ms-lauryn-hill-consumerism-1 340549;1380918085;ThickAsThieves;^ meh 340550;1380918109;benkay_;at least it has more than 12 unique words 340551;1380918170;ThickAsThieves;https://bitcoinfoundation.org/blog/?p=277 340552;1380918216;ThickAsThieves;"This is good for the Bitcoin economy in general and the reputation in specific because it proves that Bitcoins are in and of themselves a neutral store of value or medium of exchange and that privacy does not necessarily have to be compromised for law enforcement purposes." 340553;1380918312;assbot;[BTCTC] [CIPHERMINE-PT] 3 @ 0.04 = 0.12 BTC [+] 340554;1380918488;mircea_popescu;Timing buffered disk reads: 5758 MB in 3.00 seconds = 1919.23 MB/sec 340555;1380918494;mircea_popescu;some things you gotta love. 340556;1380918617;assbot;[MPEX] [S.BBET] [PAID] 1.15639577 BTC to 30`000`000 shares, 3 satoshi per share 340557;1380918646;mircea_popescu;herp. 340558;1380918697;jurov;mhm 340559;1380918904;jurov;it's actually 2.69 satoshi per share for mpex/coinbr users, 2 satoshi for passthrough bagholders 340560;1380919048;mircea_popescu;hang on a second. 340561;1380919051;jurov;um... my maffs are wrong. 340562;1380919069;jurov;it's 3.85 for mpex, 3 else 340563;1380919101;kakobrekla;smth is wrong there yeah 340564;1380919108;kakobrekla;missed a decimal place? 340565;1380919187;jurov;lol looking on my code for wisdom what it actualy did 340566;1380919194;jurov;*into 340567;1380919219;mircea_popescu;uyeah. 340568;1380919227;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 17 @ 1.03 = 17.51 BTC [+] 340569;1380919240;kakobrekla;seriously mp, into the ground, well, to sea level. :) 340570;1380919256;mircea_popescu;omg this is hate. 340571;1380919264;kakobrekla;lol 340572;1380919288;assbot;[MPEX] [S.BBET] [PAID] 1.04075619 BTC to 3`000`000 shares, 34 satoshi per share 340573;1380919315;mircea_popescu;now it's right. 340574;1380919349;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] [PAID] 21.91991239 BTC to 500`000`000 shares, 4 satoshi per share 340575;1380919396;mircea_popescu;rejoice. 340576;1380919449;Diablo-D3;I refuse. 340577;1380919460;ThickAsThieves;you garbage? 340578;1380919477;mircea_popescu;hm ? 340579;1380919492;FabianB;hmm.. why is bbet div less than august if august profits were lower? 340580;1380919492;mircea_popescu;"i have no idea what's going on." ~towlie. 340581;1380919506;mircea_popescu;FabianB cause it came in two chunks? 340582;1380919529;jurov;at least assbot should have done its maths correctly.. now i have a mess in db 340583;1380919593;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.36000007 = 1.08 BTC [+] {2} 340584;1380919597;kakobrekla;hm yeah 340585;1380919600;kakobrekla;something is off 340586;1380919612;kakobrekla;hum 340587;1380919613;mircea_popescu;yeah wtf. 340588;1380919622;FabianB;even both together 340589;1380919633;kakobrekla;welcome to quantum assets 340590;1380919662;mircea_popescu;heh. turns out, FabianB, that last month i fucked up the bitbet divs too. 340591;1380919673;mircea_popescu;i overpaid about 3x ;/ 340592;1380919707;ThickAsThieves;heh 340593;1380919716;mircea_popescu;july Profit : 5.75330454 BTC / 1.72599069 BTC on 04-08-13 ; aug Profit : 2.69851570 BTC / 2.69851526 BTC 340594;1380919735;mircea_popescu;basically last month i paid the 3mn shares on mpex as if they were the whole 10mn. which they aren't. 340595;1380919767;FabianB;lol, why not have all shares on mpex? 340596;1380919778;mircea_popescu;there will be a 1.88896099 BTC charge on next month to make it whole. unless i forget. 340597;1380919782;mircea_popescu;or i fuck something else up. 340598;1380919787;ThickAsThieves;scams! 340599;1380919805;mircea_popescu;FabianB well the bitbet ipo was so that once this 3mn shares sell we get teh rest of our shares allocated. 340600;1380919811;mircea_popescu;however... so far it's not sold 340601;1380919816;ThickAsThieves;kinda ironic, linking the trillionaire earlier 340602;1380919827;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves i guess this qualifies as an unjustified accelerated dividend and therefore A SCAM 340603;1380919837;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.36000007 = 3.6 BTC [+] 340604;1380919876;kakobrekla;mircea_popescu first payment was for 30 mio shares, second for 3 mio 340605;1380919905;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla this month ? yes. 340606;1380919905;ThickAsThieves;coincidentally was discussing various risks in operation with lawyer today, including "human error" 340607;1380919923;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves im notoriously bad at this dividend crap. just ask jurov. 340608;1380919941;kakobrekla;yeah that why assbot reported wrong numbers 340609;1380919958;kakobrekla;is not phps fault 340610;1380919968;ThickAsThieves;kill all teh dividend assets! 340611;1380920015;mircea_popescu;assbot is not to blame 340612;1380920020;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.36 BTC [-] 340613;1380920041;jurov;for this i must have all kinds of paranoid checks in my code...actually i contemplated checking that fractional part isn't >1 satoshi 340614;1380920047;jurov;that would have saved me 340615;1380920057;jurov;but i said to myself, meh just once a month 340616;1380920065;ThickAsThieves;http://www.ktvu.com/news/news/crime-law/san-francisco-man-denies-connection-silk-road-webs/nbF8F/ 340617;1380920066;ozbot;San Francisco man denies connection to 'Silk Road' website | www.ktvu.com 340618;1380920081;mircea_popescu;fractional part > 1 ? 340619;1380920093;ThickAsThieves;he looks kinda like that Twilight vampire brit 340620;1380920119;jurov;as i wrote above, mpex doesn't round divs to whole satoshi/share 340621;1380920128;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/bitbet-september-2013-statement/ < made an update. 340622;1380920129;ozbot;BitBet, September 2013 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 340623;1380920199;kakobrekla;how did that happen 340624;1380920294;mircea_popescu;that ? 340625;1380920318;FabianB;mircea_popescu: i think the log.bitcoin-assets links only work today if you link it without a date parameter 340626;1380920344;mircea_popescu;no way ?! 340627;1380920347;ThickAsThieves;oh i love the new trilema header photo 340628;1380920363;mircea_popescu;i see it just fine ? it underscores you in yellow 340629;1380920379;FabianB;mircea_popescu: yes, today, but not if you click it tomorrow 340630;1380920380;kakobrekla;FabianB has a point 340631;1380920401;mircea_popescu;well this would be because phprekla can't phode. 340632;1380920419;FabianB;kakobrekla: maybe you could include the date in the links on the left 340633;1380920444;mircea_popescu;yeah srsly. i need my references. 340634;1380920445;kakobrekla;jsrekla will jsfix it 340635;1380920457;ThickAsThieves;make all the things clickable! 340636;1380920468;mircea_popescu;must have all the links permanent! 340637;1380920471;ThickAsThieves;and with RSS feeds 340638;1380920479;kakobrekla;we need a better logo. 340639;1380920487;ThickAsThieves;make RSS feed for every handle, etc 340640;1380920493;mircea_popescu;FabianB : i think now it'll work 340641;1380920514;mircea_popescu;ya totally needs a logo. 340642;1380920518;mircea_popescu;actually this chan needs a mascot 340643;1380920525;FabianB;mircea_popescu: yup, looks good 340644;1380920527;mircea_popescu;ever since usagi took that surgery. 340645;1380920543;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves the horse loves you back. 340646;1380920544;ThickAsThieves;Assbot the Mascot? 340647;1380920563;ThickAsThieves;robotic donkey? 340648;1380920586;ThickAsThieves;a robotic wooden log? 340649;1380920620;skinnkavaj;ThickAsThieves: Sorry to bother you but have you finished moving to bitfunder? 340650;1380920624;skinnkavaj;Neobee 340651;1380920640;ThickAsThieves;I am not the real Thickasthieves 340652;1380920657;ThickAsThieves;he doesnt hang out in IRC 340653;1380920687;ThickAsThieves;nor does he run an illegal drug market 340654;1380920732;jcpham;read: it was the six finger man! 340655;1380920743;mircea_popescu;kayzer sez me ?! 340656;1380920757;ThickAsThieves;in all seriousnesss, skinnkavaj, no is the answer 340657;1380920761;mircea_popescu;http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/04/tor-attacks-nsa-users-online-anonymity 340658;1380920762;ozbot;Attacking Tor: how the NSA targets users' online anonymity | World news | theguardian.com 340659;1380920775;mircea_popescu;this is the most retarded write-up of security i saw this year. 340660;1380920795;mircea_popescu;half way into it the poor undergrad camwho doing the write-up is just... mentally exhausted. 340661;1380920798;skinnkavaj;ThickAsThieves: Now im really confused.. 340662;1380920813;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1343 @ 0.000226 = 0.3035 BTC [-] 340663;1380920822;mircea_popescu;wait, it was written by bruce schneider. what the ef. 340664;1380920847;pankkake;skinnkavaj: I always read your nickname as skinnyvaj' 340665;1380920862;skinnkavaj;pankkake: Is that someone i should know? 340666;1380920935;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.35999999 = 1.08 BTC [-] {2} 340667;1380920947;mircea_popescu;lol cute. 340668;1380920956;mircea_popescu;skinnkavaj vaj would be vagina in that context. 340669;1380920972;skinnkavaj;A well screw you then im going home 340670;1380920978;mircea_popescu;lmao 340671;1380921048;pankkake;I often misread new words (like kakobrekla, I read it as something else for weeks) 340672;1380921059;pankkake;I don't remember which, but there's one I was misreading for years 340673;1380921065;kakobrekla;FabianB / mircea_popescu ; should be fixed 340674;1380921093;kakobrekla;yeah dont worry its not really a word 340675;1380921143;mircea_popescu;it's a scam. 340676;1380921179;assbot;[BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 3 @ 0.5 = 1.5 BTC [-] 340677;1380921225;FabianB;mircea_popescu: you might want to grep (if your blog allows that) for more old log.bitcoin-assets links 340678;1380921240;mircea_popescu;yes good idea. 340679;1380921276;FabianB;i think i saw at least one more, don't remember which article though 340680;1380921399;mircea_popescu;there's exactly 3 340681;1380921420;ThickAsThieves;"Recently published news articles discuss the intelligence community's interest in tools used to facilitate anonymous online communication. The articles accurately point out that the intelligence community seeks to understand how these tools work and the kind of information being concealed. 340682;1380921420;ThickAsThieves;However, the articles fail to make clear that the intelligence community's interest in online anonymity services and other online communication and networking tools is based on the undeniable fact that these are the tools our adversaries use to communicate and coordinate attacks against the United States and our allies." 340683;1380921452;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/#313531 hm 340684;1380921455;ozbot;#bitcoin-assets log 340685;1380921471;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla can you grep the log for to halp me get these dates ? 340686;1380921484;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.36 = 2.88 BTC [+] 340687;1380921507;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/#332651 http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/#318803 340688;1380921510;ozbot;#bitcoin-assets log 340689;1380921565;kakobrekla;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-09-2013#318803 340690;1380921568;ozbot;#bitcoin-assets log 340691;1380921606;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.36 BTC [+] 340692;1380921643;kakobrekla;moar? 340693;1380921690;mircea_popescu;just those 3 340694;1380921708;kakobrekla;a 340695;1380921710;kakobrekla;theres 3 340696;1380921713;kakobrekla;didnt see 340697;1380921772;kakobrekla;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-09-2013#332651 340698;1380921774;ozbot;#bitcoin-assets log 340699;1380921812;jurov;okay, coinbr is fixed 340700;1380921829;kakobrekla;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-09-2013#313531 340701;1380921832;ozbot;#bitcoin-assets log 340702;1380921850;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.04 = 4.16 BTC [+] 340703;1380921852;mircea_popescu;tyvm 340704;1380921904;dexX7;https://picostocks.com/stocks/view/31 + https://picostocks.com/businessplan/31 X_X ... it's scam, right? 340705;1380921915;mircea_popescu;so today FabianB has found my missing 2btc and has fixed my blog. 340706;1380921918;ozbot;PicoStocks.com 340707;1380921929;FabianB;hehe 340708;1380921929;mircea_popescu;dexX7 you're like the third guy today. 340709;1380921972;dexX7;meh 340710;1380922036;ThickAsThieves;does fabian get a cherry truck or such now? 340711;1380922037;dexX7;http://i.imgur.com/ZMf6Lvt.png ... k it is fake 340712;1380922054;pankkake;so how many btcs did they steal? 340713;1380922097;ThickAsThieves;kinda amazing theyd so blatantly show they are a scam 340714;1380922097;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 340715;1380922102;ThickAsThieves;:) 340716;1380922153;FabianB;ThickAsThieves: i guess i get working links when i read articles on dates after they were written :) 340717;1380922234;mircea_popescu;i think the cherry truck is for doing god's work by arguing with some retard on btctalk over 50 pages 340718;1380922377;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-09-2013#329164 340719;1380922380;ozbot;#bitcoin-assets log 340720;1380922382;mircea_popescu;that shit's ironic. 340721;1380922384;mircea_popescu;wtf happened there 340722;1380922394;kakobrekla;lmao 340723;1380922401;kakobrekla;no clue 340724;1380922405;jurov;you got censored, i spotted it quickly 340725;1380922413;jurov;you then put it into blog 340726;1380922434;mircea_popescu;this is conspiraci 340727;1380922434;pankkake;log.b-a censors? 340728;1380922435;kakobrekla;some strange encoding? i know it works for arabis chars 340729;1380922444;mircea_popescu;nah it was english 340730;1380922450;pankkake;oh right it breaks on some encodings from what i've seen 340731;1380922453;kakobrekla;hm 340732;1380922453;mircea_popescu;apparently long strings kill the bot ? 340733;1380922462;jurov;yes, it was that 340734;1380922467;kakobrekla;it was what 340735;1380922478;pankkake;well proper English punctuation can be unicode characters too 340736;1380922481;kakobrekla;i dont think lenght is the problem 340737;1380922481;jurov;several ~400 chars long lines 340738;1380922482;mircea_popescu;there were > 500 characters per line in that quote 340739;1380922490;kakobrekla;irc has limit to it 340740;1380922497;kakobrekla;set by the network 340741;1380922497;mircea_popescu;let mwe find it in my log 340742;1380922516;jurov;i have seen them here...but assbot did not 340743;1380922529;mircea_popescu;The Agreement provides that in the event of termination, no party shall be liable beyond the specific liabilities imposed in the Agreement (i.e., the termination fee), except that no such termination shall relieve any party from any liability or damages resulting from the wilful and material breach by a party of any of its representations, warranties, covenants or agreements set forth in this Agreement. ( 340744;1380922553;kakobrekla;The Agreement provides that in the event of termination, no party shall be liable beyond the specific liabilities imposed in the Agreement (i.e., the termination fee), except that no such termination shall relieve any party from any liability or damages resulting from the wilful and material breach by a party of any of its representations, warranties, covenants or agreements set forth in this Agreement. ( 340745;1380922563;mircea_popescu;holes! 340746;1380922569;mircea_popescu;this is SCAM logging. 340747;1380922578;jurov;“ redacted 340748;1380922583;pankkake;http://i.imgur.com/VmQB7yn.png weird characters 340749;1380922583;kakobrekla;lol 340750;1380922597;kakobrekla;in my text too? 340751;1380922601;jborkl;so Cointerra is 3 miles from me, huh 340752;1380922602;pankkake;yes 340753;1380922611;mircea_popescu;jborkl going by ? 340754;1380922622;mircea_popescu; ? 340755;1380922628;jborkl;I know exaclty the building they say they are in 340756;1380922630;kakobrekla;The Agreement provides that in the event of termination, no party shall be liable beyond the specific liabilities imposed in the Agreement (i.e., the termination fee), except that no such termination shall relieve any party from any liability or damages resulting from the wilful and material breach by a party of any of its representations, warranties, covenants or agreements set forth in this Agreement. ( 340757;1380922638;kakobrekla;hm 340758;1380922641;jborkl;charles schwab office in that building 340759;1380922649;jborkl;I will go by and see 340760;1380922655;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla it's the triple dot continuation marks 340761;1380922665;kakobrekla;ah 340762;1380922673;kakobrekla;well dont say that anymore! 340763;1380922674;mircea_popescu; jborkl going by ? look at line right after that 340764;1380922676;mircea_popescu;it came out empty 340765;1380922683;mircea_popescu;hehe mk. 340766;1380922692;pankkake;those? … 340767;1380922697;asciilifeform;http://blog.jim.com/economics/technological-failure-of-the-silk-road-system.html (or: a few words from Cpt. Obvious) 340768;1380922698;ozbot;Technological failure of the silk road system « Jim’s Blog 340769;1380922713;mircea_popescu; kakobrekla is a clit sausage. 340770;1380922728;mircea_popescu;i guess now we have an off the record symbol. 340771;1380922737;mircea_popescu;which is not necessarily that bad. 340772;1380922741;kakobrekla;lolz 340773;1380922756;pankkake;asciilifeform: or simply, make your website use openpgpjs. don't get why no one does 340774;1380922778;asciilifeform;pankkake: js-anything as a security component damns your soul. 340775;1380922780;mircea_popescu;is that actually a proper implementation ? 340776;1380922784;mircea_popescu;^ 340777;1380922788;pankkake;it seems to be 340778;1380922794;asciilifeform;the site (or mitm version) can always serve up a diddled js. 340779;1380922797;jborkl;hmm, that is a apt complex, not a office 340780;1380922798;jurov;Æώ 340781;1380922803;pankkake;hm, true 340782;1380922809;kakobrekla;? hm 340783;1380922822;pankkake;but at least they woulndn't get any message before compromission 340784;1380922822;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform who the hell is "jim" 340785;1380922833;asciilifeform;nobody. 340786;1380922840;asciilifeform;just a random find. 340787;1380922934;kakobrekla;i cant reproduce that triple dot in this retarded client 340788;1380922941;jurov;just have a tor bundle include gpg proper 340789;1380922941;kakobrekla;but, i can just take out of db 340790;1380922942;kakobrekla;so fuck dat. 340791;1380922944;mircea_popescu;http://blog.jim.com/wp-comments-post.php > Error 404 - Not Found 340792;1380922966;kakobrekla;dont u version me pankkake 340793;1380922976;skinnkavaj;Fuck u doing pankkake 340794;1380922998;kakobrekla;scriptkiddie 340795;1380923000;kakobrekla;:D 340796;1380923025;jborkl;the phone number cointerra has does not work 340797;1380923025;pankkake;lol at your version 340798;1380923033;pankkake;jborkl: SCAM!!! 340799;1380923039;jurov;https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/2011-October/021770.html 340800;1380923040;ozbot;[tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle: PGP encryption built-in? 340801;1380923046;kakobrekla;whose, mine? 340802;1380923057;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla U+2026 ? 340803;1380923059;kakobrekla;i use heavily modified script kiddie script 340804;1380923063;kakobrekla;also broken 340805;1380923082;kakobrekla;no i has some strange encoding here 340806;1380923094;mircea_popescu;well it's horizontal ellipsis. anyway. 340807;1380923096;jurov;lol " 340808;1380923098;jurov;I don't consider Firefox the 'best of Web Browsing' or GPG the 'best 340809;1380923099;jurov;of encryption'. They are only the crap tools we're stuck with for 340810;1380923101;jurov;now. 340811;1380923102;jurov;" 340812;1380923115;kakobrekla;my irc client is legacy 340813;1380923117;mircea_popescu;well it's good to see the interwebs have not run out of retards. 340814;1380923118;jurov;hence ended the inquiry to add gpg to tor bundle. 340815;1380923169;asciilifeform;a basic and inescapable problem in something like 'pgp in browser' is that the user has no way to tell if he's actually using what he thinks he's using. 340816;1380923177;mircea_popescu;http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?page=1&order=dateup < ok this shit's pretty lol 340817;1380923178;ozbot;#bitcoin-assets bash 340818;1380923189;pankkake;yeah, you'd need a browser extension… 340819;1380923194;pankkake;I've tried webpg, and it sucks 340820;1380923199;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform this is true. 340821;1380923205;jurov;yes but they were talking about some browser add-on 340822;1380923208;pankkake;does not handle multiple identities, and slows down the browser after a few hours 340823;1380923209;mircea_popescu;ideally what you need is an airgapped machine and a pistol reader. 340824;1380923211;asciilifeform;and this is completely aside from the 'toilet in the kitchen' problems you get. 340825;1380923260;jborkl;just talked to a cointerra guy, he wont let me come by 340826;1380923268;mircea_popescu;why niot ? 340827;1380923285;jborkl;he said they dont have anything to show me right now 340828;1380923300;ThickAsThieves;scams 340829;1380923300;mircea_popescu;... 340830;1380923328;mircea_popescu;well... pick up two highschool chicks and a liter bottle of vodka and go crash their office. 340831;1380923349;jborkl;weel, I figured out it was a apt complex 340832;1380923360;mircea_popescu;speaking of which, bbl. 340833;1380923378;kakobrekla;he is going to trash the office 340834;1380923803;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00087512 = 1.9253 BTC [+] {2} 340835;1380924839;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 1.00000001 BTC [-] 340836;1380925144;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.PURCHASE] 21 @ 0.006763 = 0.142 BTC [+] 340837;1380925327;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 120 @ 0.00901347 = 1.0816 BTC [-] {5} 340838;1380925632;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 41 @ 0.00900102 = 0.369 BTC [-] 340839;1380925723;jurov;kakobrekla: assbot should do *tumbleweed* when no activity 340840;1380925784;jurov;since her source code needs to be maintained in constant state of disorder 340841;1380925805;jurov;!t m s.mpoe 340842;1380925805;assbot;[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00086486 / 0.00090941 / 0.00093695 (101603 shares, 92.40 BTC), 7D: 0.0007725 / 0.00086624 / 0.00094023 (478116 shares, 414.17 BTC), 30D: 0.0007725 / 0.00089768 / 0.00094307 (6407070 shares, 5,751.55 BTC) 340843;1380925824;jurov;!t m s.nsa 340844;1380925824;assbot;Are you sure you have no tobacco? 340845;1380925830;jurov;gotcha :) 340846;1380925867;jurov;that reminds me to add it to coinbr 340847;1380925876;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 81 @ 0.00900102 = 0.7291 BTC [-] 340848;1380925877;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.34 BTC [-] 340849;1380925904;pankkake;you have to add the new securities manually? 340850;1380925924;jurov;yes. there's no reliable way otherwise 340851;1380925944;jurov;i even had S.DICE shown in stat output till today 340852;1380926242;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 425 @ 0.00087645 = 0.3725 BTC [+] 340853;1380926364;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 211 @ 0.00900102 = 1.8992 BTC [-] 340854;1380926852;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.04 BTC [+] 340855;1380927096;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 14 @ 0.00900102 = 0.126 BTC [-] 340856;1380927284;mircea_popescu;http://www.euronews.com/2013/10/04/students-strip-naked-to-protest-over-strict-new-dress-code-at-kaposvar-universit/ 340857;1380927285;ozbot;Students strip in protest over dress code at Kaposvar University in Hungary | euronews, 340858;1380928499;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.04 BTC [+] 340859;1380929841;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1009 @ 0.00124158 = 1.2528 BTC [-] {2} 340860;1380929848;kakobrekla;parseval, bgupta one of you ping me 340861;1380930239;kakobrekla;;;ticker 340862;1380930240;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 137.00000, Best ask: 137.59000, Bid-ask spread: 0.59000, Last trade: 136.98000, 24 hour volume: 17840.08699449, 24 hour low: 128.50000, 24 hour high: 139.80000, 24 hour vwap: 134.78478 340863;1380931854;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 9825 @ 0.00023995 = 2.3575 BTC [-] {2} 340864;1380932403;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 22 @ 0.96410008 = 21.2102 BTC [-] {4} 340865;1380932830;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2237 @ 0.0008746 = 1.9565 BTC [-] {2} 340866;1380933928;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 1.06999999 = 5.35 BTC [+] {2} 340867;1380933989;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 1.07377999 = 10.7378 BTC [+] {2} 340868;1380934050;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.94000001 = 3.76 BTC [-] {2} 340869;1380934416;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.98000001 = 3.92 BTC [+] {2} 340870;1380935026;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.98 BTC [-] 340871;1380935123;jborkl;Wow so there was a 7000 btc bet that list on just dice 340872;1380935129;jborkl;Lost 340873;1380935227;pankkake;well, I'm still way down 340874;1380935232;pankkake;need more idiots! 340875;1380935270;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.01 BTC [-] 340876;1380935271;kakobrekla;!jd 340877;1380935276;assbot;Just-Dice stat: 535 BTC profit, 52.2k BTC invested, 153.29 mio bets, 3.94 mio BTC wagered 340878;1380935283;kakobrekla;50k eh 340879;1380935313;kakobrekla;two wheelbarrows and a half 340880;1380935331;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1 = 4 BTC [-] {2} 340881;1380935697;assbot;[BTCTC] [RSM] 39 @ 0.00337102 = 0.1315 BTC [-] {3} 340882;1380935712;chsados;FEDS say they are going to "liquidate" DPR's bitcoins http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2013/10/04/fbi-silk-road-bitcoin-seizure/?utm_campaign=forbestwittersf&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social 340883;1380935783;VanCleef;quick drop the price to $50 340884;1380935819;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 153 @ 0.00900102 = 1.3772 BTC [-] 340885;1380935880;assbot;[BTCTC] [B] [CIPHERMINE.B1] 22 @ 0.00812 = 0.1786 BTC [-] 340886;1380935880;assbot;[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 14 @ 0.035 = 0.49 BTC [-] 340887;1380935889;pankkake;market sell 26000 340888;1380935896;pankkake;;;market sell 26000 340889;1380935896;gribble;A market order to sell 26000 bitcoins right now would net 3239896.0492 USD and would take the last price down to 114.3095 USD, resulting in an average price of 124.6114 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 15.9039 seconds 340890;1380935911;pankkake;nope.avi 340891;1380935941;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 18 @ 1 = 18 BTC [-] 340892;1380936167;thestringpuller;;;ticker 340893;1380936168;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 137.44499, Best ask: 137.45000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00501, Last trade: 137.45000, 24 hour volume: 16088.60262100, 24 hour low: 131.52000, 24 hour high: 139.80000, 24 hour vwap: 135.42569 340894;1380936185;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.9853 = 1.9706 BTC [-] 340895;1380936185;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.981 = 9.81 BTC [+] 340896;1380936186;assbot;[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 2 @ 0.1346 = 0.2692 BTC [+] 340897;1380937527;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 5337 @ 0.00023997 = 1.2807 BTC [-] {2} 340898;1380937588;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2117 @ 0.0002487 = 0.5265 BTC [+] 340899;1380937649;assbot;[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.045 = 0.18 BTC [+] 340900;1380937954;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 31 @ 0.00858966 = 0.2663 BTC [-] {8} 340901;1380938015;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.PURCHASE] 200 @ 0.00621 = 1.242 BTC [-] 340902;1380938259;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 1.005 BTC [+] 340903;1380938320;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 48 @ 0.00510025 = 0.2448 BTC [-] {2} 340904;1380940577;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 883 @ 0.0002487 = 0.2196 BTC [+] 340905;1380940638;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2200 @ 0.0002489 = 0.5476 BTC [+] 340906;1380940699;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 1.07999997 = 2.16 BTC [+] 340907;1380940760;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 72 @ 0.00996352 = 0.7174 BTC [+] {4} 340908;1380940761;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SMG] 2600 @ 0.00019891 = 0.5172 BTC [+] {3} 340909;1380940821;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SMG] 1114 @ 0.000199 = 0.2217 BTC [+] 340910;1380940882;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1 = 2 BTC [+] 340911;1380941126;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 500 @ 0.00020503 = 0.1025 BTC [-] {2} 340912;1380941127;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.006 = 2.012 BTC [+] 340913;1380941248;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 18 @ 1.01 = 18.18 BTC [+] 340914;1380941614;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 31 @ 0.00940001 = 0.2914 BTC [-] 340915;1380942041;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.01 BTC [+] 340916;1380942529;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1 BTC [-] 340917;1380943688;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.30000004 BTC [-] 340918;1380944847;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 13000 @ 0.00024902 = 3.2373 BTC [+] {4} 340919;1380944908;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 550 @ 0.000254 = 0.1397 BTC [+] 340920;1380945091;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.01 BTC [+] 340921;1380945457;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 100 @ 0.00602 = 0.602 BTC [-] 340922;1380945701;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 44 @ 0.00945499 = 0.416 BTC [+] {2} 340923;1380946616;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 56 @ 0.00999799 = 0.5599 BTC [+] {3} 340924;1380947043;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 18 @ 1.08438332 = 19.5189 BTC [+] {6} 340925;1380947104;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 1.13 = 2.26 BTC [+] 340926;1380948385;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00087694 = 2.9816 BTC [+] 340927;1380948690;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 80 @ 0.36000002 = 28.8 BTC [+] {3} 340928;1380949544;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 740 @ 0.000254 = 0.188 BTC [+] 340929;1380950154;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 199 @ 0.001255 = 0.2497 BTC [+] 340930;1380950215;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 2000 @ 0.00126884 = 2.5377 BTC [+] {3} 340931;1380950459;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [COG.F2] 1 @ 1.5 BTC [-] 340932;1380951862;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5425 @ 0.00087694 = 4.7574 BTC [+] 340933;1380952350;assbot;[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 6 @ 0.045 = 0.27 BTC [+] 340934;1380954119;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 15 @ 1.075 = 16.125 BTC [+] 340935;1380954241;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 16 @ 1.099 = 17.584 BTC [+] 340936;1380954792;mircea_popescu;http://ij.org/miforf 340937;1380954793;ozbot;The Institute for Justice 340938;1380954797;mircea_popescu;"Can the government use civil forfeiture to take your money when you have done nothing wrongand then pocket the proceeds? The IRS thinks so." 340939;1380954851;assbot;[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 29 @ 0.13990689 = 4.0573 BTC [-] {5} 340940;1380955136;pankkake;this institude for justice seems to do pretty cool stuff 340941;1380955273;pankkake;;;bc,stats 340942;1380955276;gribble;Current Blocks: 261801 | Current Difficulty: 1.4881919980509263E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 262079 | Next Difficulty In: 278 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 14 hours, 7 minutes, and 32 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 185413506.454 | Estimated Percent Change: 24.58978 340943;1380955366;kakobrekla;shouldnt you be sleeping 340944;1380955398;pankkake;are you the nsa or what? :) 340945;1380955442;pankkake;hehe 340946;1380955507;pankkake;well, headaches :/ 340947;1380955528;kakobrekla;oh? 340948;1380955533;kakobrekla;no remedies for that? 340949;1380955560;pankkake;many doctors seen, and for now, nothing concrete 340950;1380955570;pankkake;hence my time spent insulting people on forums 340951;1380955576;pankkake;instead of being productive 340952;1380955587;kakobrekla;i do that too, but without the headache 340953;1380955597;pankkake;:) 340954;1380955642;kakobrekla;im cycling again 340955;1380955653;kakobrekla;each day im up a bit longer 340956;1380955688;kakobrekla;not that id want to. 340957;1380955714;pankkake;oh, I did try the 28 hour day for a while 340958;1380955721;pankkake;it was good the first weeks 340959;1380955723;kakobrekla;i blame the lack of buttsecks 340960;1380955759;pankkake;but even my minimal social life was affected 340961;1380955768;pankkake;always blame the lack of buttsex 340962;1380955777;kakobrekla;social life? 340963;1380955785;kakobrekla;;;google define:social life 340964;1380955786;gribble;Social Life Magazine: ; Social Life | Psychology Today: ; Social life - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: 340965;1380955795;pankkake;:) 340966;1380955810;pankkake;I mean you have to think if you're going to be sleeping at some hour 340967;1380955819;pankkake;it's not like ok I can be there that day 340968;1380955847;pankkake;it's also very weird when you get out and the sun isn't where it should be 340969;1380955857;kakobrekla;lucky for me i hate people enough so i dont miss the socialization 340970;1380955869;kakobrekla;oh im used to that 340971;1380955876;kakobrekla;getting up at sundown 340972;1380955894;pankkake;well, I thought I was - but I gave up after a month I think 340973;1380955912;kakobrekla;i have been doing this for years 340974;1380955927;kakobrekla;dunno what the long term effect is 340975;1380955929;mircea_popescu;lol 340976;1380955931;kakobrekla;death if nothing else 340977;1380955943;kakobrekla;whats funny there 340978;1380955951;pankkake;I think doing it like 26h week (and cycle over 2 weeks) would be idle 340979;1380955957;pankkake;26h day* 340980;1380955960;mircea_popescu;pankkake have you tried the old ice water remedy ? 340981;1380955963;pankkake;ideal* 340982;1380955977;kakobrekla;meh i cant plan my sleep 340983;1380956003;pankkake;28h was a bit tiring a times 340984;1380956007;kakobrekla;except the lack of it 340985;1380956011;pankkake;I wanted to go to sleep but forced me no to 340986;1380956034;kakobrekla;i have done 72hrs couple of times 340987;1380956055;pankkake;when I was younger, I did too 340988;1380956061;kakobrekla;it gets fun after 48 or so 340989;1380956069;pankkake;usually masturbating 340990;1380956071;kakobrekla;i really mean fun 340991;1380956079;kakobrekla;everything gets hilarious 340992;1380956094;pankkake;yeah i get "drunk" 340993;1380956102;kakobrekla;almost 340994;1380956154;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/why-you-need-bitcoin-simply-put/ 340995;1380956155;ozbot;Why you need Bitcoin, simply put. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 340996;1380956187;kakobrekla;where are the tits 340997;1380956197;mircea_popescu;there shall be no further tits 340998;1380956224;kakobrekla;whats this, concentration camp? 340999;1380956227;mircea_popescu;i used to buy them on the silk road. now that the feds have disrupted silkroad, my supply of tits is gone. 341000;1380956300;pankkake;let's create titcoin. has 42 million titcoins, and you can only spend them by two 341001;1380956337;mircea_popescu;must press tits against screen to sign tx 341002;1380956357;kakobrekla;make that a titocoin and maybe someone will go for it 341003;1380956366;pankkake;hm, you can probably have a tit fingerprint and convert it to a private key 341004;1380956384;kakobrekla;but that goes for anything 341005;1380956428;kakobrekla;if diablo were here hed say "peniscoin!" 341006;1380956521;pankkake;I still have the best altcoin idea ever, the bernankoin 341007;1380956531;pankkake;rename mining to printing 341008;1380956545;pankkake;and block reward = difficulty 341009;1380956559;kakobrekla;no must be PoS 341010;1380956568;kakobrekla;instead of pow 341011;1380956581;kakobrekla;and print yourself a billion 341012;1380956620;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.0008771 = 6.4028 BTC [+] {2} 341013;1380956683;pankkake;I'm already too lazy to actually create it, so understanding the PoS dynamics… probably not :p 341014;1380956703;kakobrekla;what you dont need to do anything 341015;1380956724;kakobrekla;just follow the 'make your own bitcoin fork' manual 341016;1380956729;kakobrekla;and make a logo 341017;1380956734;kakobrekla;done 341018;1380956756;pankkake;yeah, I think I bookmarked it for the occasion 341019;1380956799;pankkake;there's also some Krugman pics I could use 341020;1380956816;pankkake;http://dealbreaker.com/uploads/2011/04/Paul-Krugman-with-Cat.jpg 341021;1380956997;pankkake;http://www.theguardian.com/world/interactive/2013/oct/04/egotistical-giraffe-nsa-tor-document 341022;1380957025;pankkake;egotistical giraffe, egostistical goat 341023;1380957284;dexX7;http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/04/tor-attacks-nsa-users-online-anonymity << i recommend this one, very rich of information 341024;1380957284;ozbot;Attacking Tor: how the NSA targets users' online anonymity | World news | theguardian.com 341025;1380958226;mircea_popescu;dexX7 it's really very badly written, nonsensical goop. 341026;1380958253;mircea_popescu;i can't imagine schneider actually penned that. he must have sent sometyhing that got "edited for clarity" 341027;1380958328;assbot;[BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 7 @ 0.5 = 3.5 BTC [-] 341028;1380958432;dexX7;are you saying "the content is inconsistent" or "the presentation is just bad"? 341029;1380958524;mircea_popescu;i am saying that numerous concepts are employed in a way which belies unfamiliarity with the field, and the general structuring of the narrative is such that you suspect the author does not have a birds eye view of the topic. 341030;1380958549;mircea_popescu;neither of those goes with the alleged author, unless he was very very drunk at the time. 341031;1380958565;mircea_popescu;but anyway, i guess now i have to go into details as otherwise this is all useless nonsense. brb. 341032;1380959304;dexX7;;;later tell mircea_popescu "hmm.. got to go now, but if you actually came back with a more detailed answer - i'll read it later!" 341033;1380959304;gribble;The operation succeeded. 341034;1380960341;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.099 = 5.495 BTC [+] 341035;1380960463;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 1.13999999 = 5.7 BTC [+] 341036;1380960464;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 72 @ 0.009998 = 0.7199 BTC [+] {2} 341037;1380961561;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [COG.F2] 1 @ 1 BTC [-] 341038;1380961561;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 568 @ 0.00120006 = 0.6816 BTC [-] {2} 341039;1380961562;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 495 @ 0.00025002 = 0.1238 BTC [-] {2} 341040;1380961683;mod6;;;bc,stats 341041;1380961685;gribble;Current Blocks: 261816 | Current Difficulty: 1.4881919980509263E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 262079 | Next Difficulty In: 263 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 9 hours, 45 minutes, and 14 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 185935645.524 | Estimated Percent Change: 24.94063 341042;1380962064;bitesak;;;ticker 341043;1380962065;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 135.50001, Best ask: 136.09991, Bid-ask spread: 0.59990, Last trade: 135.50001, 24 hour volume: 13773.94364398, 24 hour low: 131.82491, 24 hour high: 139.80000, 24 hour vwap: 136.33476 341044;1380962079;bitesak;;;avg 341045;1380962080;gribble;Error: "avg" is not a valid command. 341046;1380962942;mircea_popescu;;;later tell dexx7 http://trilema.com/2013/dear-guardian-stop-being-retarded/ 341047;1380962942;gribble;The operation succeeded. 341048;1380963935;VanCleef;is adobe a scam? 341049;1380964329;mircea_popescu;it's just evil. 341050;1380965587;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3750 @ 0.00087248 = 3.2718 BTC [-] 341051;1380966126;b0n1;http://www.google.de/trends/explore?q=bitcoin#q=bitcoin%2C%20Silk%20Road&date=today%201-m&cmpt=q 341052;1380966127;ozbot;Google Trends 341053;1380966137;b0n1;oh yes! :) 341054;1380966685;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.021 = 2.042 BTC [-] 341055;1380967539;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 522 @ 0.0002135 = 0.1114 BTC [-] 341056;1380968637;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2415 @ 0.00024997 = 0.6037 BTC [+] {2} 341057;1380968942;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.021 = 2.042 BTC [-] 341058;1380968942;assbot;[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.0499 = 0.1497 BTC [+] 341059;1380970050;phish;.d 341060;1380970050;ozbot;148819199.80509 | Next Diff in 231 blocks | Estimated Change: 25.6612% in 1d 4h 35m 46s 341061;1380970885;mircea_popescu;"Alexander further detailed that the metadata is collected under Executive Order 12333 from 2009." 341062;1380970893;mircea_popescu;fuckwit. 12333 was signed in like the 80s 341063;1380970899;mircea_popescu;we're in the mid 13k's by now. 341064;1380971221;mod6;ya 12333 would have been during reagan 341065;1380971275;mod6;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_12333 341066;1380971433;mircea_popescu;something like that yeah 341067;1380974432;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69348300 BTC to 1`386`966 shares, 50 satoshi per share 341068;1380975101;ThickAsThieves;"Join the investment class today and start the wealth creation process!" 341069;1380975151;ThickAsThieves;"Find out how Thousands of Redditors Earn Interest every 6 hours by simply depositing Bitcoins. What? We are serious." 341070;1380975162;ThickAsThieves;"mcxNOW is the worlds fastest digital exchange coded securely in low level C++. Unlike other exchanges it offers interest on all deposits and allows you to earn a percentage of all fees the exchange generates!" 341071;1380975165;ThickAsThieves;sigh 341072;1380975170;ThickAsThieves;https://mcxnow.com/ 341073;1380975171;ozbot;mcxNOW - Digital Currency Exchange and Payment System 341074;1380976096;mircea_popescu;lol 341075;1380976117;mircea_popescu;so basically the forum has moved to reddit ? 341076;1380976118;mircea_popescu;great, 341077;1380977238;assbot;[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 457 @ 0.00139973 = 0.6397 BTC [+] {4} 341078;1380979312;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00026399 = 0.264 BTC [+] {2} 341079;1380979617;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00026399 = 0.264 BTC [+] {2} 341080;1380981996;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 202 @ 0.00999857 = 2.0197 BTC [+] {2} 341081;1380982484;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 11 @ 0.01 = 0.11 BTC [+] {2} 341082;1380983033;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1090 @ 0.000249 = 0.2714 BTC [-] 341083;1380983399;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 120 @ 0.01 = 1.2 BTC [+] 341084;1380985168;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.07 BTC [+] 341085;1380986937;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 211 @ 0.00289526 = 0.6109 BTC [-] {2} 341086;1380986938;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 25 @ 1.09919998 = 27.48 BTC [+] {4} 341087;1380986998;assbot;[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 25 @ 0.048 = 1.2 BTC [+] 341088;1380987059;assbot;[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 7 @ 0.04232142 = 0.2962 BTC [-] {2} 341089;1380987364;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 13 @ 1.15253846 = 14.983 BTC [+] {3} 341090;1380987913;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 827 @ 0.0104562 = 8.6473 BTC [+] {8} 341091;1380987974;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1250 @ 0.01074999 = 13.4375 BTC [+] 341092;1380988892;mike_c;;;bc,24hprc 341093;1380988893;gribble;130.00 341094;1380989582;mircea_popescu;http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/10/05/Feds-Try-to-Close-the-OCEAN-Because-of-Shutdown 341095;1380989583;ozbot;Feds Try to Close the OCEAN Because of Shutdown 341096;1380989682;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 23 @ 0.00515 = 0.1185 BTC [+] 341097;1380990703;thestringpuller;It's sad US citizens are too lazy to start militias and start chaos. 341098;1380990768;rulother-tab-;+1 341099;1380991179;mircea_popescu;i was thinking, the correct thing to do for a state governor is to simply pass a bill ordering all federal employees arested 341100;1380991184;mircea_popescu;take them to a camp somewherwe 341101;1380991186;mircea_popescu;and that's that. 341102;1380991209;mircea_popescu;for instance the arizona people could do it, after the entire "close grand canion" bs. 341103;1380991756;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 211 @ 0.00285007 = 0.6014 BTC [-] {3} 341104;1380992078;Kleeck__;"It is on par with the government's ham-fisted attempts to close the DC WWII Memorial, an open-air public monument that is normally accessible 24 hours a day. By accessible I mean, you walk up to it. When you have finished reflecting, you then walk away from it. " 341105;1380992079;Kleeck__;lol 341106;1380992276;mircea_popescu;basically obama's horde is trying to show to congress that they can do absolutely anything and the sheeple will just take it. 341107;1380992281;mircea_popescu;that's the message, "you are alone". 341108;1380992289;mircea_popescu;"we can grab any power we want. fuck you." 341109;1380992298;Duffer1;that makes no sense 341110;1380992324;Duffer1;he didn't shut down anything, congress did 341111;1380992338;mircea_popescu;you're very confused. 341112;1380992343;mircea_popescu;unrelatedly : nosuchlabs.com 341113;1380992357;mircea_popescu;all that's still needed is a logo and away we go!!1eleven 341114;1380992460;Kleeck__;Interesting. 341115;1380992671;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 1.13774999 = 2.2755 BTC [-] {2} 341116;1380992732;asciilifeform;today's crapola: http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/page/world/gchq-report-on-mullenize-program-to-stain-anonymous-electronic-traffic/502/ 341117;1380992833;asciilifeform;http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/page/world/nsa-research-report-on-the-tor-encryption-program/501/ 341118;1380992833;ozbot;NSA report on the Tor encrypted network - The Washington Post 341119;1380992885;asciilifeform;looks like at least one spook knows 'LaTex' 341120;1380992917;mircea_popescu;apps ? lol 341121;1380992964;thestringpuller;what does nsa even do? 341122;1380992967;thestringpuller;s.nsa 341123;1380992968;thestringpuller;lol 341124;1380992972;thestringpuller;pretend to be the nsa? 341125;1380992983;asciilifeform;thestringpuller: burns $$$$ 341126;1380992992;asciilifeform;on a big far pyre 341127;1380992996;asciilifeform;*fat 341128;1380992997;thestringpuller;nice 341129;1380993000;thestringpuller;sign me up! 341130;1380993071;mircea_popescu;thestringpuller WHEREAS, the individuals named have recently launched and intend to operate for the foreseeable future an unregistered corporation by the name "No Such lAbs" (NSA) dedicated to the production and marketing of a series of strong, fully integrated cryptography products, ensuring customers absolute immunity from third party attempts to access their data or communications ; 341131;1380993075;mircea_popescu;other than that, it ipos 341132;1380993100;mircea_popescu;http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/10/04/not_even_the_nsa_can_crack_the_state_departments_online_anonymity_tool 341133;1380993102;ozbot;Not Even the NSA Can Crack the State Dept's Favorite Anonymous Network | The Cable 341134;1380993103;mircea_popescu;look at that shit. 341135;1380993106;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: i think he was thinking about the other one 341136;1380993121;mircea_popescu;basically every contact in the "press" is being herded to defend this holy grail of "tor is actually safe" 341137;1380993259;asciilifeform;to be fair, there is a long tradition here in the usa of first arming some fellows and then sending armies to bump them off 341138;1380993281;asciilifeform;so it is even possible that one set of bureaucrats commissioned TOR and another, 'anti-' TOR 341139;1380993315;mircea_popescu;it's possible, but not likely. what happened is that one set of bureaucrats made tor at great expense, and another set used it in a disaster-of-commons way 341140;1380993327;mircea_popescu;now the former are trying to fix their broken china. 341141;1380993331;asciilifeform;sort of like the Soviet scenario of KGB vs GRU, or Hitler's 'two in a box' management style of abwehr vs gestapo. 341142;1380993490;mircea_popescu;sort of like the bureaucratic scenario. 341143;1380993504;mircea_popescu;this is why big governments can't have nice things, irrespective of what uyou might have heard. 341144;1380993553;asciilifeform;they occasionally pull off nice things, but solely by crowning a viceroy (e.g. Korolev) who has absolute grasp over some fiefdom. 341145;1380993590;mircea_popescu;so then "by becoming small government" 341146;1380993595;asciilifeform;yeah 341147;1380993596;mircea_popescu;why yes, yes they do. that's the fucking argument. 341148;1380993986;asciilifeform;http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/talk-by-roger-dingledine-of-torprojectorg-at-the-nsa/2013/10/04/cdd15234-2d1d-11e3-8ade-a1f23cda135e_story.html 341149;1380993986;ozbot;Talk by Roger Dingledine of Torproject.org at the NSA - The Washington Post 341150;1380993998;asciilifeform;"(U) 5. Oppressed Alice, who lives in a repressive country (no or limited free speech) and wants to talk about things contrary to her governments positions. The countries he used as examples were France, Germany (prohibitions on fascist writings?) and the US (not sure what he meant here?)." 341151;1380994020;mircea_popescu;dingledine ? 341152;1380994025;mircea_popescu;seriously ? 341153;1380994182;mircea_popescu;he needs to meet my friend Dinah. 341154;1380994289;thestringpuller;in other news, mircea_popescu can officially get medical marijuana 341155;1380994302;mircea_popescu;wait wut ? 341156;1380994307;thestringpuller;http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ro&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=ro&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.digi24.ro%2FStiri%2FDigi24%2FActualitate%2FSanatate%2FMedicament%2BTratamentul%2Bcu%2Bmarijuana%2Ba%2Bdevenit%2Blegal%2Bin%2BRomania 341157;1380994337;thestringpuller;wow that link is awful 341158;1380994365;mircea_popescu;i don't know pot ever wasn't legal. 341159;1380994387;mircea_popescu;but anyway, for everyone's lolfactor : ion tiriac is a rich romanian banker guy. his son is a retard. 341160;1380994407;thestringpuller;YAY 341161;1380994409;mircea_popescu;coupla years back he was caught with ~3kgs of uncut cocaine in his car, and had his license suspended 341162;1380994429;mircea_popescu;i guess it's a good thing he didn't try to sell it on silkroad. 341163;1380994464;mircea_popescu;it'd have taken all of six months and landed him in jail for 800 years on account of it being bought by a dozen different undercover agents working for five or six different agencies. 341164;1380994469;thestringpuller;is that the reporter? 341165;1380994473;thestringpuller;ion tiriac? 341166;1380994479;mircea_popescu;no ? 341167;1380994499;thestringpuller;where did ion tiriac come up then? 341168;1380994541;mircea_popescu;well, it's a little anecdote i just recounted. 341169;1380994548;thestringpuller;ah 341170;1380994578;asciilifeform;pg. 16: "In our time in the lab, we found that running an nmap on a node that isoffering a hidden service will turn up the port that the hidden service is using to deal with incoming connections. It can then be directly connected to, outside of Tor." 341171;1380994585;asciilifeform;these fellows ever heard of iptables? 341172;1380994624;mircea_popescu;i don't think this problem is avoidable 341173;1380994667;asciilifeform;if you configure the damn thing right, the only external port is TOR's standard one 341174;1380994680;asciilifeform;every 'onion' luser knows this 341175;1380994687;asciilifeform;except, apparently, the monkey 341176;1380994732;mircea_popescu;jesuis check this shit out 341177;1380994735;mircea_popescu;http://www.azd.uscourts.gov/sites/default/files/documents/top%2010%20local%20rule%20violations.pdf 341178;1380994752;mircea_popescu;that loads up a document G:/shared/azdwebpage/blabla 341179;1380994765;mircea_popescu;basically, a box running windows 95 ? 341180;1380994786;mircea_popescu;holy shit, it's a .wpd 341181;1380995051;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform what i meant was, as long as you have a port open, it's open for nmap too. 341182;1380995058;mircea_popescu;in retrospect is not what you meant. 341183;1380995105;asciilifeform;even the lowest luser knows, i imagine, that you set up the service (e.g. http) on a local port, and expose only the tor port. 341184;1380995133;asciilifeform;the fellow running the port scan will see that the machine runs tor, and that's it 341185;1380995155;asciilifeform;this isn't exactly worthless info by itself, though 341186;1380995166;asciilifeform;not that many people have tor running on a hosted box 341187;1380995197;asciilifeform;inquisitor scans the whole site, then politely asks for snapshots of the dirty disks... 341188;1380995217;mircea_popescu;right. 341189;1380995370;thestringpuller;"I'm mircea_popescu, bitch!" lolol 341190;1380995580;skinnkavaj;Upvote this: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1nsmoa/bitcointalk_hacked_thermos_offering_50_btc_reward/ 341191;1380995599;assbot;[BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 41 @ 0.45378048 = 18.605 BTC [-] {3} 341192;1380995664;pankkake;> thermos 341193;1380995795;mircea_popescu;bwahaha 341194;1380995800;mircea_popescu;i can't believe the girl's thing caught. 341195;1380995843;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1400 @ 0.00084566 = 1.1839 BTC [-] 341196;1380995946;asciilifeform;gotta love how the spooks insist on calling keys 'cryptovariables,' so you can almost tell where the monkey plagiarized open source docs and where he actually spewed his own text 341197;1380996087;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 1.13999999 = 2.28 BTC [+] 341198;1380996115;mircea_popescu;unrelatedly, has anyone ever looked into ubuntu packaging ? 341199;1380996121;mircea_popescu;ubuntu-standard depends on... wget. 341200;1380996148;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 152 @ 0.00126659 = 0.1925 BTC [+] 341201;1380996331;asciilifeform;what of it 341202;1380996499;pankkake;to download the .debs, you need a downloader 341203;1380996523;mircea_popescu;sure. but there's no need to make that a dependency. 341204;1380996548;mircea_popescu;it will run just fine w/o wget, and w/o avahi, and without jesus fucking christ. 341205;1380996552;mircea_popescu;ubuntu is windows. 341206;1380996582;pankkake;even other distros do require wget 341207;1380996597;pankkake;ubuntu-standard is windows, certainly, but wget isn't a good example 341208;1380996608;mircea_popescu;no, imo ity's the best example. 341209;1380996613;asciilifeform;never seen a linux box (save cut-down ones i prepared for various purposes) w/out wget or curl on it. 341210;1380996617;mircea_popescu;there is no sane reason to require wget for -standard. 341211;1380996623;mircea_popescu;you don't have wget, you can't use internet. 341212;1380996636;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform still not a reason to require it. 341213;1380996660;asciilifeform;i think the updater on various 'friendly' package systems demands wget/curl/the like 341214;1380996670;asciilifeform;for fetching whatever. 341215;1380996693;mircea_popescu;that's another thing 341216;1380996701;mircea_popescu;there's no reason for -standard to depend on the updater being present. 341217;1380996716;mircea_popescu;people go fucking crazy over "having a car requires you having insurance" 341218;1380996722;asciilifeform;wait till you see how many packages pull in xorg for no particular reason. 341219;1380996725;mircea_popescu;then go around putting retarded dependencies in software. 341220;1380996770;mircea_popescu;the ridiculous thing is, they have the concept of "recommended". not like it's either depend or nothing. 341221;1380997010;thestringpuller;wget is so laaaame though 341222;1380997016;thestringpuller;it can't grok links at all 341223;1380997020;thestringpuller;cURL is so much better 341224;1380997097;thestringpuller;also the ubuntu updater is based on aptitude no? why not just base something on debian instead of ubuntu? 341225;1380997246;assbot;[BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 9 @ 0.45 = 4.05 BTC [-] 341226;1380997952;Duffer1;thestringpuller how's cookies going? 341227;1380998436;mircea_popescu;http://dukeofmegadeus.tumblr.com/image/63187035555 341228;1380998458;ozbot;Remains of Doma: Photo 341229;1380998710;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 25000 @ 0.00024884 = 6.221 BTC [+] {7} 341230;1380998757;mircea_popescu;http://31.media.tumblr.com/8dbe87937905e880ee4cd6369b1077ce/tumblr_mre2xmjRvT1srju7bo1_1280.jpg cc assbot 341231;1380998771;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 3300 @ 0.00024939 = 0.823 BTC [+] {2} 341232;1380998771;assbot;[BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 50 @ 0.45 = 22.5 BTC [-] 341233;1380998954;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 1.13999999 = 2.28 BTC [+] {2} 341234;1380999320;assbot;[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.041 = 0.123 BTC [-] 341235;1381000967;assbot;[BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 33 @ 0.451 = 14.883 BTC [+] 341236;1381001028;assbot;[BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 10 @ 0.45 = 4.5 BTC [-] 341237;1381001272;assbot;[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.0401 = 0.1604 BTC [-] {2} 341238;1381001333;assbot;[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.14 BTC [+] 341239;1381001394;assbot;[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 6 @ 0.04001 = 0.2401 BTC [-] 341240;1381001760;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 500 @ 0.000245 = 0.1225 BTC [-] 341241;1381001760;assbot;[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.07605 = 0.1521 BTC [-] 341242;1381001821;assbot;[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 2 @ 0.14 = 0.28 BTC [+] 341243;1381001882;assbot;[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.04001 = 0.16 BTC [-] 341244;1381001943;assbot;[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 15 @ 0.03986666 = 0.598 BTC [-] {2} 341245;1381002065;assbot;[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.03726 = 0.1118 BTC [-] {3} 341246;1381002126;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.086 BTC [-] 341247;1381002248;assbot;[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 15 @ 0.035 = 0.525 BTC [-] 341248;1381003468;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 95 @ 0.01089999 = 1.0355 BTC [+] 341249;1381003529;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 34 @ 0.011 = 0.374 BTC [+] 341250;1381003691;b0n1;http://www.theguardian.com/world/interactive/2013/oct/04/tor-stinks-nsa-presentation-document 341251;1381004566;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 850 @ 0.00120354 = 1.023 BTC [-] {6} 341252;1381006451;mircea_popescu;http://nypost.com/2013/08/05/in-the-ho-tel-biz-lauren-silvermans-husband-owns-panama-prostitute-palace/ 341253;1381006452;ozbot;In the ‘ho’-tel biz: Lauren Silverman’s husband owns Panama ‘prostitute’ palace | New York 341254;1381006701;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.PURCHASE] 26 @ 0.006212 = 0.1615 BTC [-] 341255;1381007006;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 1.14 BTC [+] 341256;1381007189;assbot;[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.035 = 0.105 BTC [-] 341257;1381007274;pankkake;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1ns4oa/we_are_being_watched/ lol 341258;1381007274;ozbot;We are being watched... : Bitcoin 341259;1381007296;mircea_popescu;two snatches in a bar. one says to the other 341260;1381007299;mircea_popescu;hey... we're being watched. 341261;1381007459;pankkake;redditors really want to name theymos, thermos 341262;1381007469;pankkake;I'm ok with that 341263;1381007478;mircea_popescu;redditors really want to matter. 341264;1381007492;pankkake;offtopic 341265;1381007526;mircea_popescu;"Who else knows about your subversive projects?" herp. 341266;1381007532;pankkake;haha 341267;1381007536;mircea_popescu;in its 10 year history, nothing subversive came out of reddit. 341268;1381007551;mircea_popescu;in the remainder 5ish years of lifetime it still has, nothing subversive will come out of it. 341269;1381007567;pankkake;oh I agree with almost much of the hate about reddit 341270;1381007575;pankkake;it's 10yo already? 341271;1381007610;mircea_popescu;i think so. early 2000ish, wasn;'t it ? 341272;1381007628;mircea_popescu;spent their time being a shitty network back when everyone used stumbleupon and digg, 341273;1381007629;pankkake;I used it mostly in its first years, and I was slowly disgusted by it. despicable people who want to believe they're nice (and intelligent, and whatever) 341274;1381007632;mircea_popescu;then digg sold out and went apeshit 341275;1381007660;mircea_popescu;so now the contingent of highschoolers are telling each other stories about how cool they are on reddit. 341276;1381007779;pankkake;there is a saying, redditors are stupid people who try to appear intelligent, while 4channers are intelligent people who try to appear stupid (expect it's probably better said) 341277;1381007809;mircea_popescu;well to their credit the 4chaners succeed a lot better than the redditards. 341278;1381007923;pankkake;well, reddit is famous for stealing content. many top posts "my daughter made this" etc. revealed to be fake 341279;1381007938;pankkake;that's when you realize karma, user moderation is shit 341280;1381007972;mircea_popescu;usg generally is a hopeless endeavour. 341281;1381007979;mircea_popescu;ugc* 341282;1381008002;mircea_popescu;turns out there's not an army of competent and dedicated people just waiting for the chance to make nice things for free. 341283;1381008024;jurov;so what's new about nsa labs except some lame bet? 341284;1381008025;mircea_popescu;who knew, seriously. and how racist, chauvinist and everything that is. 341285;1381008039;mircea_popescu;jurov not much. 341286;1381008043;pankkake;that certainly is a lame bet 341287;1381008052;jurov;and website that redirects to http://mpex.co/index.php?mpsic=S.NSA 341288;1381008072;mircea_popescu;well, domain. 341289;1381008183;thestringpuller;you must have had a bad experience with reddit mircea_popescu 341290;1381008202;jurov;good.. and eulora does have some site? 341291;1381008209;mircea_popescu;jurov nope. 341292;1381008215;mircea_popescu;thestringpuller notrly. 341293;1381008298;jurov;i'd like to try newest eulora client, it's somewhere? 341294;1381008334;mircea_popescu;well yeah, same place 341295;1381008348;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/eulora-august-update/ 341296;1381008349;ozbot;Eulora August update pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 341297;1381008350;pankkake;so I tried to make an altcoin (the bernankoin), but I'm stuck. not having bitcointalk doesn't help either 341298;1381008368;kakobrekla;well, 341299;1381008371;kakobrekla;do you have a logo? 341300;1381008375;mircea_popescu;or did you mean the precompiled ? 341301;1381008384;pankkake;no, that must be why it doesn't work! 341302;1381008393;kakobrekla;;) 341303;1381008401;jurov;http://minigame.bz/eulora/news/news.txt 341304;1381008416;mircea_popescu;http://minigame.bz/eulora/binaries/ is binaries. 341305;1381008429;pankkake;actually I'm stuck at the genesis block, or something like that (but I fixed the problem that is on the altcoin howto, not the one I have now) 341306;1381008432;jurov;yes... just wanted to explore around 341307;1381008452;pankkake;.bz ? 341308;1381008461;kakobrekla;biznis 341309;1381008465;mircea_popescu;server may be down if they're dicking with it tho, so might have to retry later. 341310;1381008473;pankkake;no that's .biz 341311;1381008493;kakobrekla;no thats business 341312;1381008528;pankkake;belize. the country of bitcoin scams 341313;1381008530;mircea_popescu;anyway, i think we have a s.nsa logo 341314;1381008542;mircea_popescu;anyone here a logo artist ? 341315;1381008557;kakobrekla;hire that solar mining company guy 341316;1381008564;kakobrekla;he does wonders 341317;1381008585;jurov;i can add cherries and trucks and rainbows 341318;1381008587;mircea_popescu;can't detect if serious 341319;1381008593;mircea_popescu;or ima end up with angry guy face all over my logo 341320;1381008599;jurov;im srs!!! 341321;1381008607;mircea_popescu;k 341322;1381008615;kakobrekla;am i ever? 341323;1381008648;pankkake;I've done crappy logos with inkscape 341324;1381008651;pankkake;or even gimp 341325;1381008668;kakobrekla;with gimp you can logo like a chimp! 341326;1381008742;pankkake;oh, the american NSA logo is hard. I wanted to try a parodyw 341327;1381008788;mircea_popescu;i was thinking eagle-holding-cox 341328;1381008789;mircea_popescu;but meh. 341329;1381008867;pankkake;what I would see is NSA, with the A being a flask 341330;1381008874;pankkake;because labs 341331;1381008881;pankkake;that's not very original 341332;1381008881;mircea_popescu;meh. 341333;1381008884;mircea_popescu;;;google trilema 341334;1381008885;gribble;Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; Trilemma - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Münchhausen trilemma - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: 341335;1381008891;mircea_popescu;ha! 341336;1381008906;mircea_popescu;suck it wikipedia. 341337;1381008916;thestringpuller;that's cause you spelled trilemma differently 341338;1381008921;thestringpuller;;;google trilemma 341339;1381008922;gribble;Trilemma - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Lewis's trilemma - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Münchhausen trilemma - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: 341340;1381008928;thestringpuller;:P 341341;1381008941;kakobrekla;lmao last proposition http://bitbet.us/propositions/ 341342;1381008944;mircea_popescu;who cares about trilemma 341343;1381008949;kakobrekla;[hover over for text to show] 341344;1381008984;mircea_popescu;lol how does one send .39 btc and an email to addy ? 341345;1381009004;kakobrekla;magick 341346;1381009019;assbot;[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 650 @ 0.00104684 = 0.6804 BTC [-] {3} 341347;1381009051;kakobrekla;but respect for captcha solving 341348;1381009056;mircea_popescu;yeah. 341349;1381009114;pankkake;http://i.imgur.com/RRA0Hj1.png 341350;1381009134;kakobrekla;looks like a car bashed in the wall 341351;1381009180;mircea_popescu;did you run out of pixels or what happened to that a ? 341352;1381009204;thestringpuller;perfect! 341353;1381009221;kakobrekla;jurov can you add the rainbows to this? 341354;1381009272;pankkake;just did it in one go 341355;1381009295;pankkake;and yeah lazyness 341356;1381009330;kakobrekla;also can i ipo nasa then?! 341357;1381009357;mircea_popescu;wha'd tha be 341358;1381009385;kakobrekla;dunno 341359;1381009391;kakobrekla;running a btc node on the moon? 341360;1381009439;pankkake;fuck, I did it in in insckape, but pressing esc erased my whole thing 341361;1381009522;kakobrekla;now do ctrl+z 341362;1381009549;mircea_popescu;stop teaching him thingas 341363;1381009628;jurov;http://live.coinbr.com/images/nsa_rainbows.png 341364;1381009721;jurov;kakobrekla: ^^ 341365;1381009753;mircea_popescu;holy shit my temporal lobe fell off 341366;1381009777;pankkake;no, that's not how it works; esc while I was drawing the unfinished path 341367;1381009902;pankkake;http://i.imgur.com/GM0b35K.png with unintentional swastika 341368;1381009928;pankkake;jurov: lol, I don't even know how to do that 341369;1381009944;kakobrekla;lolz 341370;1381009950;mircea_popescu;that's like the most illegible logo in the history of grafitti. 341371;1381009980;mircea_popescu;why not just write the letters on top of each other and bne done with it 341372;1381010307;pankkake;okay: http://i.imgur.com/yAmrHMl.png 341373;1381010422;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 1.14 BTC [+] 341374;1381010585;kakobrekla;http://www.fontspace.com/dingfontbats/sassys-teddys-3#?text=NSA&fontsize=200&foreground=000000&background=FFFFFF 341375;1381010585;ozbot;Sassys Teddys 3 font by Dingfontbats - FontSpace 341376;1381010610;pankkake;that's even for bizness than trilema's comic sans 341377;1381010613;pankkake;more* 341378;1381010703;mircea_popescu;trilema has a comic font ? 341379;1381010703;jurov;but you can't put them on top of each other 341380;1381010757;jurov;for that i recommend http://www.fontspace.com/bythebutterfly/littlemisspriss 341381;1381010793;pankkake;well yeah, that one: http://i.imgur.com/hDTH7ZN.png 341382;1381011323;kakobrekla;http://shrani.si/f/1L/NK/2b8chSA5/nsa.png 341383;1381011341;kakobrekla;and a message from our sponsor hypnotoad: buy stock. 341384;1381011370;mircea_popescu;ahaha 341385;1381011581;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.15 BTC [+] 341386;1381012087;dexX7;mircea_popescu: thanks, great post. 341387;1381012108;mircea_popescu;;) 341388;1381012112;dexX7;not so much information, but nice to read, to continue with my first statement ;) 341389;1381012331;pankkake;https://images.4chan.org/g/src/1381010808668.png 341390;1381012390;dexX7;>_< 341391;1381012547;dexX7;so why are the forums still down? i mean, 90 % of all "job offers" are "i'm a dev etc." posts. is the hole crew so uberleet? 341392;1381012644;pankkake;looking for how they got hacked so it doesn't happen again? 341393;1381012684;Kleeck__;Last I read Theymos said they were rebuilding the server and reinstalling the software stack. 341394;1381012726;dexX7;pankkake: yes, that's the goal. there is a 50 btc bounty for the one who can reconstruct the hack. 341395;1381013350;assbot;[BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 26 @ 0.45 = 11.7 BTC [-] 341396;1381013668;asciilifeform;new idiot circus: http://www.change.org/petitions/the-federal-bureau-of-investigation-fbi-release-the-confiscated-3-6-million-in-bitcoins-from-silk-road-founder-ross-william-ulbricht-back-into-the-bitcoin-community 341397;1381013738;dexX7;how wrong this is.. 341398;1381013744;dexX7;actually they do want to liquidate the coins 341399;1381013768;dexX7;and the best for the community would be to just "lose" them 341400;1381013791;asciilifeform;let's say they burn DPR's computer on a pyre in the public square. This would in principle accomplish the same thing. 341401;1381013796;dexX7;i'm not that interested that stupid fbi guys unload 28k in a market order =D 341402;1381013831;asciilifeform;like firing gold into the sun. anyone who holds the metal would be slightly richer. 341403;1381013847;dexX7;yes 341404;1381013853;dexX7;I support the idea that the FBI should set up a Bitcoin faucet to give these back to the community slowly. << well okay, that's a cute idea 341405;1381014211;pankkake;someone is ddosing a lot of pools 341406;1381014224;pankkake;;;bc,stats 341407;1381014227;gribble;Current Blocks: 261954 | Current Difficulty: 1.4881919980509263E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 262079 | Next Difficulty In: 125 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 13 hours, 45 minutes, and 41 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 188534237.595 | Estimated Percent Change: 26.68677 341408;1381014236;ThickAsThieves;I support the idea of punishing bitcoiners that assume every situation would be better decided by themselves even though they have no actual authority over or experience in anything 341409;1381014237;dexX7;what was the "better" pool overview website again? 341410;1381014249;dexX7;>_< 341411;1381014284;pankkake;ThickAsThieves: but you can't do anything about it (except create a change.org thing?) 341412;1381014357;ThickAsThieves;i can put them on ignore 341413;1381014362;ThickAsThieves;but Theymos took that away 341414;1381014367;dexX7;http://blockorigin.pfoe.be/chart.php << that's the one i was looking for 341415;1381014367;ThickAsThieves;:) 341416;1381014387;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 13 @ 1.16076923 = 15.09 BTC [+] {3} 341417;1381014410;ThickAsThieves;i mean, Thermos 341418;1381014423;dexX7;hehe 341419;1381014448;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 111 @ 0.0115 = 1.2765 BTC [+] {2} 341420;1381014459;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform lol tjhat's happening. 341421;1381014568;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves you don't understand the free market man. 341422;1381014571;mircea_popescu;the free market of ideas. 341423;1381014594;ThickAsThieves;opinions are like assholes, some should be explored, most are just shitty 341424;1381014602;pankkake;nice 341425;1381014621;mircea_popescu;http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/976/629/asian-baseball-boobs-cleavage-girl-japanese-sexy-softball-uniform-sexy-hot-babes-Tremendo-clean_large_display_image.jpg 341426;1381014642;mircea_popescu;lmao that;s some urlizing right there 341427;1381014642;pankkake;too bony 341428;1381014696;ThickAsThieves;if i were the fbi and saw that change.org crap i'd basically be devising the way to cause the most tears 341429;1381014698;ChaangNoi;she has a long neck 341430;1381014735;ChaangNoi;change.org crap? im out of the loop 341431;1381014757;ThickAsThieves;reddites telling fbi to give SR btc to the 'community' 341432;1381014759;mircea_popescu;he's never coming out either way. 341433;1381014762;mircea_popescu;meanwhile, http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2380327/Baby-bird-attempts-swallow-carers-thumb-feed-falling-nest.html 341434;1381014771;dexX7;ChaangNoi: http://www.change.org/petitions/the-federal-bureau-of-investigation-fbi-release-the-confiscated-3-6-million-in-bitcoins-from-silk-road-founder-ross-william-ulbricht-back-into-the-bitcoin-community 341435;1381014785;ChaangNoi;thank dex 341436;1381014810;pankkake;how the fuck is that news 341437;1381014848;ChaangNoi;hmm if the fbi kept the btc, the rest of the btc would be worth more... 341438;1381014855;ThickAsThieves;i guess that makes all of youtube news 341439;1381014876;ChaangNoi;fbi giving the funds to the bitcoinfoundation or whatdver would not look good imo 341440;1381014879;ThickAsThieves;maybe they should send it to the btc address with the most coins 341441;1381014903;pankkake;but why would they give it? when they seize usds, they don't give it to the usd community 341442;1381014903;mircea_popescu;lmao 341443;1381014906;pankkake;it makes zero sense 341444;1381014914;pankkake;brain not found 341445;1381014926;asciilifeform;the pyre. and sell tickets. better ROI. 341446;1381014930;mircea_popescu;pankkake you don't understand reddit. ask it anything, it'll say the same thing : "i want sum gimme" 341447;1381014947;ChaangNoi;that seems like it will go no where 341448;1381015518;Diablo-D3;[07:15:04] but why would they give it? when they seize usds, they don't give it to the usd community 341449;1381015520;Diablo-D3;actually they do 341450;1381015533;Diablo-D3;the fbi consumes siezed USD as part of their budget 341451;1381015545;Diablo-D3;thus allowing the fbi to do more on their congressional budget 341452;1381015550;Diablo-D3;thus giving back to america 341453;1381015554;pankkake;lulz 341454;1381015562;Diablo-D3;fucked up isnt it 341455;1381015571;jurov;good. let's go ask reddit to sign a petition for fbi to invest it into mpoe bonds 341456;1381015625;pankkake;no, they would ask to bail out labcoin 341457;1381015629;ThickAsThieves;can we insist they spend it on hookers and blow? 341458;1381015648;mircea_popescu;they could pay to blow hookers... 341459;1381015652;blastbob1;we can put them into more tor open source development 341460;1381015654;blastbob1;they would like that 341461;1381015664;ThickAsThieves;yeah have them donate it to Tor 341462;1381015667;mircea_popescu;blastbob1 blasts right in lol 341463;1381015673;mircea_popescu;i third the motion. 341464;1381015709;ThickAsThieves;a tor detector detector 341465;1381015711;pankkake;the FBI would never do something as productive as hookers and blow 341466;1381015973;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SMG] 5045 @ 0.00021932 = 1.1065 BTC [+] {12} 341467;1381016034;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SMG] 4105 @ 0.00022997 = 0.944 BTC [+] {3} 341468;1381016663;mircea_popescu;maybe they could make a tor tor 341469;1381016678;mircea_popescu;so like, everyone's on tor right ? 341470;1381016692;mircea_popescu;so you can have within tor this plaintext protocol which nobody can identify 341471;1381016706;mircea_popescu;so you know that someone on tor isn't using tor 341472;1381016710;mircea_popescu;but you can't find out who 341473;1381016949;assbot;[BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 28 @ 0.45 = 12.6 BTC [-] 341474;1381017089;dexX7;so let's say you cloak and sign traffic with gpg or something like that.. like you do for order transmission. that's what ssl does, right? 341475;1381017139;mircea_popescu;nope. 341476;1381017148;mircea_popescu;that's what ssl pretends to do. 341477;1381017165;dexX7;yes, because it's via a 3rd party 341478;1381017167;dexX7;right? 341479;1381017220;mircea_popescu;not exactly and not just. think about it : gpg requires that i have your public key to send you stuff 341480;1381017223;mircea_popescu;and you have mine to reply. 341481;1381017234;mircea_popescu;ssl only requires you have the server's public key. it's thus half a protocol. 341482;1381017264;mircea_popescu;more importantly, using pgp-style tools you have a dedicated signature identification step. you somehow acquire my signature. such as, from me. 341483;1381017281;dexX7;ah i see 341484;1381017281;mircea_popescu;in ssl, you acquire it on the basis that a third party says its ok, much like the dns system. 341485;1381017295;mircea_popescu;the dns system is notoriously insecure, as proven by all the cache poisoning attacks etc. 341486;1381017307;mircea_popescu;recently google had its domains hijacked and there was jack shit it could do. for like days. 341487;1381017315;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 19275 @ 0.00021543 = 4.1524 BTC [-] {4} 341488;1381017426;mircea_popescu;in opposition to this, something like scp over keybased ssh would be secure, in the sense you can't read messages. 341489;1381017452;mircea_popescu;it would still not be anyonymous, which is in general a much harder problem than cryptography. which is why bitcoin is secure but not anonymous, and why tor fails to deliver on anonymity etc. 341490;1381017571;dexX7;thanks 341491;1381018352;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1500 @ 0.0002151 = 0.3227 BTC [-] 341492;1381018413;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 41859 @ 0.0002085 = 8.7276 BTC [-] {18} 341493;1381018474;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 120741 @ 0.0002 = 24.1482 BTC [-] {6} 341494;1381018946;dexX7;howard wang, the former dev of labcoin has spoken ... http://pastebin.com/rQfbUA8d 341495;1381019097;pankkake;raise 7500 BTC, hire random dude on oDesk 341496;1381019101;BigBitz;LOL 341497;1381019103;BigBitz;yeah. 341498;1381019104;BigBitz;insane 341499;1381019108;dexX7;read further 341500;1381019118;dexX7;it's even worse 341501;1381019125;pankkake;they don't pay the guy :o 341502;1381019155;mircea_popescu;lol. 341503;1381019176;mircea_popescu;the flaming globes sigmund! it is just as you have prophesized! 341504;1381019296;mircea_popescu;TheSeven http://pastebin.com/rQfbUA8d you got a comment ? 341505;1381019307;pankkake;I had to google that, I forgot about Flaming Globes of Sigmund 341506;1381019318;pankkake;I wish Rochelle, Rochelle existed 341507;1381019324;kakobrekla;odesk is 99.5% indians and losers at same time 341508;1381019341;kakobrekla;the .5 is just indian or just loser 341509;1381019354;pankkake;I don't know odesk specifically, but most similar websites are like that 341510;1381019366;mircea_popescu;well what are they gonna do. 341511;1381019368;knotwork;hmm what is this AVAtrade whose ad I just saw on facebook? A onventional forex site now including bitcoin? 341512;1381019500;mircea_popescu;"And, it happened that we have access on some 130nm library, so she decided to continue with this library." 341513;1381019509;mircea_popescu;"we stole some more software". 341514;1381019522;mircea_popescu;which reminds me, haven't heard of the bitfinex thing in a while. 341515;1381019700;pankkake;raise 7500 BTC, be a cheap ass and don't pay for anything 341516;1381019755;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1633 @ 0.00019993 = 0.3265 BTC [-] {3} 341517;1381019806;mircea_popescu;it just goes to further show exactly what forum fuckwits are worth 341518;1381019816;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 10112 @ 0.00018719 = 1.8929 BTC [-] {6} 341519;1381019819;mircea_popescu;comes out of nowhere, "we" and "our company", all "professional" and whatnot... 341520;1381019839;mircea_popescu;hasn't seen a whole bitcoin in his life. 341521;1381019866;dexX7;well, they have a history going back to q3 2012 on the forums 341522;1381019891;pankkake;hehe, the "we" always make me lol 341523;1381019928;mircea_popescu;dexX7 theswede was registered in march. 341524;1381019929;pankkake;I should speak on behalf of Pankkake Industries Corporation Limited 341525;1381019931;mircea_popescu;what history ? 341526;1381019938;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 25150 @ 0.00018393 = 4.6258 BTC [-] {4} 341527;1381019943;mircea_popescu;pankkake what's wrong with kramerica ? 341528;1381019954;pankkake;theswede is just random pr guy - those are old time scammers 341529;1381019967;pankkake;some italians 341530;1381019980;mircea_popescu;right. 341531;1381020022;mircea_popescu;i wonder what rosenfeld is doing these days. 341532;1381020064;dexX7;rosenfeld = the bdt guy? 341533;1381020065;pankkake;hm, yeah my next company will be Vandelay Industries 341534;1381020083;mircea_popescu;dexX7 meni rosenfeld, the foil for the bdt scam, but much older history. 341535;1381020109;mircea_popescu;he created a fake "short" asset for pirate, he has a long history of trying to be the "respectable" part of various scams. 341536;1381020113;dexX7;yeah, i saw some posts of him when i did a quick search for alberto 341537;1381020187;mircea_popescu;tho after his utter failure to rehabilitate that nick with his "vanity thread" etc i suppose it's not surprising he just let it drop. 341538;1381020304;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 50 @ 0.0074996 = 0.375 BTC [+] {2} 341539;1381020312;mircea_popescu;Sep 30 22:27:12 once again we advise all investors to buy shares while they are cheap, We are confident in fact that the price will raise tenfold in respect to IPO 341540;1381020313;mircea_popescu;Sep 30 22:34:00 mircea_popescu: you are simple minded. sorry but your are a psychopathic 341541;1381020318;mircea_popescu;ahh the good old days of last week! 341542;1381020363;dexX7;wtf 341543;1381020372;dexX7;is this from the log? 341544;1381020383;mircea_popescu;yeah. 341545;1381020392;dexX7;that was just a faker 341546;1381020408;dexX7;the original quote is from labcoin made on the forum 341547;1381020410;mircea_popescu;no, he came here because i went over on their chan for lolz. 341548;1381020427;pankkake;sure, but it was a troll 341549;1381020437;pankkake;quoting real things labcoin said though 341550;1381020441;dexX7;zhenhua_wang = the guy who wrote the message which is on pastebin. he never was here on irc. 341551;1381020445;dexX7;yup, pankkake 341552;1381020461;mircea_popescu;pankkake the distinction blurs. 341553;1381020494;pankkake;labcoin is trolling itself so yes 341554;1381020496;mircea_popescu;some emo chick that doesn't wash ironically is still an slovenly slut. 341555;1381020572;mircea_popescu;dexX7 anyway, it's common for pr to repeat the official line. -pr quotes me all the time. 341556;1381020577;mircea_popescu;how's that prove it's a troll. 341557;1381020602;dexX7;hm? i'm just saying that "zhenhua_wang" has probably no connection to the "real" labcoin team 341558;1381020622;dexX7;just to underline that this is not the guy who wrote the message 341559;1381020838;mircea_popescu;but probably why ? on the basis of what ? 341560;1381020981;dexX7;1. those quotes are from user "labcoin" (persona "sam" which is actually alessia), 2. howard/zhenhua wang is external and was hired by labcoin to create an asic, 3. wang never appeared on the forums/irc 341561;1381021016;dexX7;so how likely is it that this guy surprisingly appears on irc to mock labcoiners? 341562;1381021046;dexX7;according to the messages he was scammed by them, too and he seems to be a nice guy :) 341563;1381021158;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [COG.F2] 1 @ 0.4 BTC [-] 341564;1381021402;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 3671 @ 0.00018207 = 0.6684 BTC [-] {4} 341565;1381021662;mircea_popescu;we're not discussing whether this guy is or is not X random person irl. 341566;1381021679;mircea_popescu;we are discussing if this guy was actually paid by / working for labcoin or simply trolling. 341567;1381021693;mircea_popescu;on the face of what he said, the former would seem to be rather the case. 341568;1381021748;mircea_popescu;now whether it was really sam/alesia/theswede/whoever the fuck else that came here to bitch under that nick.... who cares. 341569;1381021785;pankkake;doubt it 341570;1381021792;pankkake;he just wanted to play with you 341571;1381021829;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.19 = 2.38 BTC [+] 341572;1381021967;mircea_popescu;right, and the duck i ate earlier was just feigning. 341573;1381022000;mircea_popescu;because it's really impossible it be the case that the redditard generation is quite fucking stupid enough to do something on sept 30th and the exact oposite on oct 5 341574;1381022024;mircea_popescu;without being able to actually confront the fact that looky how fucking retarded we are. 341575;1381022120;pankkake;you're such a simple minded psychopathic :) 341576;1381022122;pankkake;[03:13] we'll put motion up as soon as the board is up 341577;1381022122;pankkake;[03:13] to take over the company form the scammers 341578;1381022123;pankkake;[03:13] 70% is majority by far 341579;1381022125;pankkake;lol 341580;1381022134;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 19999 @ 0.00018124 = 3.6246 BTC [-] {2} 341581;1381022138;pankkake;those guys are still deluding themselves 341582;1381022341;mircea_popescu;in other news, http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/salo-9.jpg 341583;1381023171;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 50269 @ 0.00015826 = 7.9556 BTC [-] {10} 341584;1381023598;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 728 @ 0.00018056 = 0.1314 BTC [+] {2} 341585;1381024269;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 249 @ 0.002989 = 0.7443 BTC [+] {2} 341586;1381024330;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 65 @ 0.00298982 = 0.1943 BTC [+] {4} 341587;1381024574;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10250 @ 0.00085123 = 8.7251 BTC [+] {2} 341588;1381024818;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 400 @ 0.002989 = 1.1956 BTC [-] {2} 341589;1381025233;Au-WireBeard;.d 341590;1381025233;ozbot;148819199.80509 | Next Diff in 88 blocks | Estimated Change: 27.5702% in 0d 10h 24m 34s 341591;1381025428;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 800 @ 0.0001514 = 0.1211 BTC [-] {2} 341592;1381026038;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6850 @ 0.00084841 = 5.8116 BTC [-] 341593;1381026372;dexX7;ThickAsThieves: do you have a copy of am's latest statement made by the board? could you put it on pastebin or so? 341594;1381026587;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 300 @ 0.002989 = 0.8967 BTC [-] 341595;1381026633;VanCleef;;;seen ThickAsThieves 341596;1381026633;gribble;ThickAsThieves was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 hours, 2 minutes, and 4 seconds ago: a tor detector detector 341597;1381026709;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 75 @ 0.01189999 = 0.8925 BTC [+] 341598;1381027319;assbot;[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 20 @ 0.041945 = 0.8389 BTC [-] {3} 341599;1381029027;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 300 @ 0.002989 = 0.8967 BTC [-] 341600;1381029088;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 4229 @ 0.00015265 = 0.6456 BTC [+] {7} 341601;1381029210;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 103 @ 0.00299 = 0.308 BTC [+] 341602;1381029881;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 5771 @ 0.0001512 = 0.8726 BTC [-] {3} 341603;1381030369;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 714 @ 0.00084841 = 0.6058 BTC [-] 341604;1381031242;dexX7;http://i.imgur.com/jEgzE7eh.jpg bruce willis is into bitcoin? x.x 341605;1381031435;pankkake;lol 341606;1381031448;pankkake;if you ignore the hair, somewhat 341607;1381031529;pankkake;it's that bowtie guy right? 341608;1381031581;dexX7;no idea ;) 341609;1381031664;pankkake;jeffrey tucker 341610;1381031757;nejon;could this be related to cointerra ipo on picostocks? http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1586249/000158624913000004/xslFormDX01/primary_doc.xml 341611;1381031838;dexX7;picostocks ipo is confirmed scam 341612;1381031854;nejon;how is that confirmed? 341613;1381031863;pankkake;because cointerra said it's a scam 341614;1381031873;pankkake;from what I understand of cointerra, they do not want to touch bitcoin at all 341615;1381031882;dexX7;but what you posted.. what does that actually mean? 341616;1381031886;nejon;have source? 341617;1381031920;dexX7;http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinStocks/comments/1npqw8/cointerra_ipo_on_picostocks_any_details_about_this/ 341618;1381031928;dexX7;http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinStocks/comments/1npqw8/cointerra_ipo_on_picostocks_any_details_about_this/cckz2ln < to be more specific 341619;1381031946;dexX7;if kleecksj is kleeck from here, he's legit 341620;1381031968;pankkake;there's a screenshot of the support ticket somewhere 341621;1381031974;pankkake;(not that you should trust screenshots) 341622;1381031985;nejon;not sure if I should even trust some guy on support 341623;1381031996;nejon;are they supposed to know everything 341624;1381032014;pankkake;lol 341625;1381032015;dexX7;why should they use picostocks lol 341626;1381032046;nejon;based on how clueless some support people can be 341627;1381032057;dexX7;nothing against picostocks though 341628;1381032058;pankkake;yes, 1) why picostocks 2) why no announcement before actual ipo 3) the support guy didn't say i don't know, he said no stock selling 341629;1381032073;nejon;yes because he knows they are selling machines 341630;1381032106;nejon;what they should use then? 341631;1381032135;dexX7;bf i think 341632;1381032152;nejon;and that would make a difference :D 341633;1381032164;dexX7;ukyo spends a lot of coins for lawyers to make bf more legit 341634;1381032178;pankkake;and also would spend the 5 min required to see if it's legit 341635;1381032198;nejon;maybe you should spend more than 5min too 341636;1381032222;pankkake;nejon: at that point, I'm starting to think you're the scammer behind it 341637;1381032291;nejon;based on what? 341638;1381032324;pankkake;defending an obvious scam 341639;1381032345;nejon;can you point where I'm defending something? 341640;1381032418;nejon;anyway I would find it strange if bitfury team member was involved in scam like that 341641;1381032425;pankkake;what? 341642;1381032425;nejon;but I guess we will see soon enough 341643;1381032440;pankkake;see what? 341644;1381032455;dexX7;so what's the story behind this sec form? 341645;1381032479;pankkake;The Securities and Exchange Commission has not necessarily reviewed the information in this filing and has not determined if it is accurate and complete. 341646;1381032482;pankkake;The reader should not assume that the information is accurate and complete. 341647;1381032527;nejon;maybe you should ask the support guy about that form too.. 341648;1381032533;nejon;I'm sure he is in the know 341649;1381032539;nejon;like many people working in support 341650;1381032628;dexX7;right now trading hasn't started yet on picostocks 341651;1381032677;dexX7;strange 341652;1381032684;dexX7;https://blockchain.info/tx/c5c6436dc53cd90306e6e9f958af32cde67506888ed012e4d57cd34e6bb5460a 50 btc were paid as "ipo fee" 341653;1381032685;ozbot;Bitcoin Transaction c5c6436dc53cd90306e6e9f958af32cde67506888ed012e4d57cd34e6bb5460a 341654;1381032697;nejon;what is strange about that? 341655;1381032708;pankkake;50 btc to list on picostocks?! 341656;1381032712;dexX7;yes 341657;1381032714;pankkake;lol 341658;1381032720;VanCleef;very legit 341659;1381032733;dexX7;it's strange, because i wouldn't expect a scammer pay 50 btc for something that could be busted within a few minutes 341660;1381032742;nejon;ah 341661;1381032751;VanCleef;gotta spend money to scam money 341662;1381032769;dexX7;sure, but all it needs is a word from cointerra to end it 341663;1381032772;nejon;anyway I'm not convinced by some random support reply 341664;1381032805;nejon;and why wouldn't leszek verify with cointerra? 341665;1381032848;nejon;"If You accept the IPO evaluation You can close it at a selected price. After this You have 2 weeks to sign the sales contract with PicoStocks and submit the signed documents to the IPO office. If You miss this deadline the IPO will be canceled (the asset will be withdrawn from the system). You can also cancel the IPO any time yourself if You are not satisfied with the results and 341666;1381032848;nejon;withdraw the asset. In such case all investments in bids for the shares of this asset will be returned to the investors." 341667;1381032875;nejon;so it's impossible to scam if the owner of the exchange is not involved 341668;1381032896;nejon;which I would find very strange if he was 341669;1381032967;dexX7;https://picostocks.com/users/bitcoins/25 << that account payed the 50 btc 341670;1381032970;ozbot;PicoStocks : 1BASfHfaxhR3tb1HpHqiLBkSxPnc4A7AYn : User's Bitcoin transfer log 341671;1381033019;dexX7;Created:2012-12-22 14:02:50 341672;1381033044;dexX7;rephrased: not this account payed the fee, but the fee was payed from the same address 341673;1381033190;nejon;quite a lot of bitcoins on that account 341674;1381033419;nejon;that account seems like it's associated with picostock owners 341675;1381033477;nejon;doesn't really help anything 341676;1381033497;dexX7;maybe it's just a transit address 341677;1381033522;dexX7;ipo creator -> picostocks transit -> x 341678;1381033542;nejon;yep 341679;1381033554;nejon;and ipo fee might have been paid with bank transfer too 341680;1381033577;nejon;picostocks has that option 341681;1381033586;dexX7;https://picostocks.com/docs/index/31 341682;1381033587;ozbot;PicoStocks.com 341683;1381033593;dexX7;here are some names about people involved 341684;1381033597;dexX7;i don't know them 341685;1381033618;pankkake;why bother? if it's legit, cointerra will announce it 341686;1381033640;nejon;I think they wouldn't announce 341687;1381033650;pankkake;what 341688;1381033667;nejon;they have just filed with sec 341689;1381033686;nejon;sec hasn't made any decision 341690;1381033702;pankkake;so they certainly would not show it on picostocks then 341691;1381033718;nejon;what do you know about the legal issues? 341692;1381033743;pankkake;what the fuck 341693;1381033750;nejon;dexX7 I think leszek is the main guy 341694;1381033762;dexX7;of picostocks? 341695;1381033762;nejon;he was one of the main investors in bitfury too 341696;1381033765;nejon;yes 341697;1381033765;dexX7;k 341698;1381033768;nejon;with bioinfobank 341699;1381033779;dexX7;and koji, do you know him? 341700;1381033785;nejon;koji is his account 341701;1381033788;nejon;on picostocks 341702;1381033812;dexX7;ahh i see 341703;1381033812;nejon;you can see the info on that account 341704;1381033820;dexX7;i'm not familiar with ps :) 341705;1381033846;nejon;I bought some 100thash shares long ago 341706;1381033857;nejon;have a friend who knows leszek 341707;1381033883;dexX7;so, maybe i just don't see it. when does the ipo start? 341708;1381033891;nejon;it has started already 341709;1381033898;nejon;but closes after 7th 341710;1381033919;dexX7;no asks, no trades, no volume 341711;1381033944;nejon;total bid volume:2819.29566986 341712;1381033947;nejon;btc 341713;1381033951;dexX7;https://picostocks.com/stocks 341714;1381033952;ozbot;PicoStocks.com 341715;1381033953;dexX7;yes 341716;1381033957;dexX7;people placed bids 341717;1381033958;nejon;there are ipo shares for 8000btc 341718;1381033968;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 4350 @ 0.00017 = 0.7395 BTC [-] 341719;1381033981;dexX7;but the issuer hasn't put up shares for sale 341720;1381033983;nejon;I'm just trying to find out if this is legit 341721;1381034011;nejon;would be suprised if leszek was involved in a scam 341722;1381034033;nejon;he has made a lot of money with bitfury 341723;1381034044;nejon;and why ruin the reputation 341724;1381034057;dexX7;please report back, if you get some information on it 341725;1381034073;nejon;I've sent a few emails but no response yet 341726;1381034159;nejon;dexX7 the shares will be put up for sale when the ipo is closed 341727;1381034169;nejon;and 7th is the deadline 341728;1381034179;pankkake;http://www.anandtech.com/show/7246/the-rush-to-bitcoin-asics-ravi-iyengar-launches-cointerra grep shares 341729;1381034179;ozbot;AnandTech | The Rush to Bitcoin ASICs: Ravi Iyengar launches CoinTerra 341730;1381034186;nejon;after 7th* 341731;1381034194;dexX7;now i understand.. 341732;1381034212;assbot;[BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 1027 @ 0.0012746 = 1.309 BTC [-] {2} 341733;1381034261;nejon;anyway even if the ipo is legit then there is still the thing about cointerra delivering something :) 341734;1381034265;dexX7;"The concept the selling of shares is blurring a legal line, especially in the US. We are not sure if that model is possible within our boundaries. There is also the issue regarding dealing with Bitcoin and converting to cash, thus becoming a money service. We do not want to be in any grey area, and we want to be clear with our business model. The goal of CoinTerra is to be a hardware 341735;1381034265;dexX7;product company first, rather than a base for Bitcoin distribution." 341736;1381034373;nejon;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1l0plk/an_insiders_take_on_cointerra_the_bitcoin_mining/cburgf6 341737;1381034373;ozbot;dtuur comments on An Insiders Take on CoinTerra & the Bitcoin Mining Sector 341738;1381034376;nejon;then there is also this 341739;1381034414;nejon;"CoinTerra will announce other products in the future. Also, chip sales find their way back to smaller scale investors in the form of IPO's and cloud hashing services." 341740;1381034456;assbot;[BTCTC] [B] [CIPHERMINE.B1] 172 @ 0.00812 = 1.3966 BTC [-] 341741;1381034480;dexX7;"in form of ipo's"... sounds more like a project like the 100th mine 341742;1381034490;dexX7;but hard to tell 341743;1381034552;nejon;I'm leaning towards the ipo not being a scam because leszek does really have more to lose than win if he would be involved in that 341744;1381034610;nejon;he is running the exchange with known identity and he is making a lot of money already with the bitfury equipment 341745;1381034945;assbot;[BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 80 @ 0.01241 = 0.9928 BTC [-] {5} 341746;1381035066;assbot;[BTCTC] [BMF] 100 @ 0.0155 = 1.55 BTC [+] 341747;1381036474;pankkake;I didn't get my winnings for http://bitbet.us/bet/527/ebay-will-accept-btc-before-october-6/ 341748;1381036724;kakobrekla;wasnt paid out yet 341749;1381036758;jgja;is Labcoin moving to direct shares on Monday? 341750;1381036770;kakobrekla;nejon we all know who nefario is, too. 341751;1381036777;kakobrekla;;;seen nefario 341752;1381036777;gribble;nefario was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 year, 1 week, 4 days, 9 hours, 19 minutes, and 27 seconds ago: Those assets are not listed or traded anymore 341753;1381036785;pankkake;it's weird to show the resolution but not have the payout 341754;1381036825;kakobrekla;money cums soon after the resolution, up to 24hrs is normal 341755;1381037699;[\];kakobrekla's a slow cummer 341756;1381037795;pankkake;a scummer 341757;1381038238;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 400 @ 0.00026993 = 0.108 BTC [+] {3} 341758;1381038604;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1350 @ 0.00027799 = 0.3753 BTC [+] {3} 341759;1381038665;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 900 @ 0.00027799 = 0.2502 BTC [+] {4} 341760;1381038848;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.141 = 2.282 BTC [-] 341761;1381039031;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.13 BTC [-] 341762;1381039336;assbot;[BTCTC] [NASTY-PT] 93 @ 0.00122229 = 0.1137 BTC [+] {2} 341763;1381039397;assbot;[BTCTC] [NASTY-PT] 100 @ 0.0012 = 0.12 BTC [-] 341764;1381039458;assbot;[BTCTC] [NASTY-PT] 107 @ 0.00116 = 0.1241 BTC [-] 341765;1381039519;assbot;[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.0366 = 0.366 BTC [-] 341766;1381039580;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 10 @ 0.11999999 = 1.2 BTC [-] {2} 341767;1381039581;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 800 @ 0.00027799 = 0.2224 BTC [+] {2} 341768;1381039641;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 400 @ 0.00028358 = 0.1134 BTC [+] {5} 341769;1381040068;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 534 @ 0.0029 = 1.5486 BTC [-] {3} 341770;1381040129;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 410 @ 0.0029 = 1.189 BTC [-] 341771;1381040373;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 26 @ 1.25746153 = 32.694 BTC [+] {4} 341772;1381040861;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 31892 @ 0.00015272 = 4.8705 BTC [-] {5} 341773;1381041758;mircea_popescu;http://gizmodo.com/does-political-belief-make-you-suck-at-math-1440010845 341774;1381041764;mircea_popescu;basically, it does. 341775;1381042325;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00085412 = 1.452 BTC [+] 341776;1381042569;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4986 @ 0.00084993 = 4.2378 BTC [-] {2} 341777;1381043606;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 8069 @ 0.00014168 = 1.1432 BTC [-] {8} 341778;1381043850;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 500 @ 0.00028844 = 0.1442 BTC [+] 341779;1381043911;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 500 @ 0.00028844 = 0.1442 BTC [+] 341780;1381044826;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 0.11 = 0.33 BTC [-] 341781;1381046903;Vexual;good day gents 341782;1381047280;phish;.d 341783;1381047280;ozbot;148819199.80509 | Next Diff in 42 blocks | Estimated Change: 27.4550% in 0d 4h 58m 59s 341784;1381047710;phish;;;genrate 30000 341785;1381047711;gribble;The expected generation output, at 30000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 148819199.805, is 0.101379361754 BTC per day and 0.00422414007307 BTC per hour. 341786;1381047717;mircea_popescu;heya. 341787;1381047815;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5773 @ 0.00084887 = 4.9005 BTC [-] 341788;1381048013;Vexual;How are you MP? 341789;1381048059;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 9 @ 0.01189999 = 0.1071 BTC [+] 341790;1381048484;mircea_popescu;great. 341791;1381048761;Vexual;That is good to hear, I am having a quiet evening watching a sliver of the moon sitting on a beautiful sunset. It feels as though everything is right in the world. 341792;1381049645;assbot;[BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 250 @ 0.00121157 = 0.3029 BTC [-] {4} 341793;1381049900;Vexual;http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2013-09-18/science/42182028_1_sunspots-maunder-minimum-solar-cycle 341794;1381049901;ozbot;Solar activity drops to 100-year low, puzzling scientists - Times Of India 341795;1381050194;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 35505 @ 0.00013024 = 4.6242 BTC [-] {10} 341796;1381050609;mircea_popescu;its man made. 341797;1381050621;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 822 @ 0.0001226 = 0.1008 BTC [-] 341798;1381050666;Vexual;indeed, 10,000 year model is no good with the cosmos 341799;1381050710;mircea_popescu;esp when it's a 55 year model extrapolated through the use of purpose-tailored math. 341800;1381050920;Vexual;dont get met started on the misuse of orbital telescopes 341801;1381050936;mircea_popescu;:p 341802;1381051085;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9VQye6P8k0 341803;1381051086;ozbot;Patience - YouTube 341804;1381051367;mircea_popescu;this has got to be the best google translate ever : http://postimg.org/image/4dyqw79x3/ 341805;1381051404;Vexual;savage 341806;1381053506;jurov;http://i.imgur.com/4nsBBpq.jpg just a morning wo..er wisdom 341807;1381053617;b0n1;are the passwords of bitcointalk salted? If so, were the hackers able to read out the salted random numbers? 341808;1381053896;mircea_popescu;The whole enterprise of counting publications as a means to evaluating research excellence is pernicious and completely absurd. If a 12 year-old were to write 'I fink that Enid Blyton iz bettern than that Emily Bronte bint cos she has written loads more books' then one could reasonably excuse the spelling as reflective of the stupidity of the mind that produced the content. What we now have in academia is a situation 341809;1381053897;mircea_popescu;where intelligent men and women prostitute themselves to an ideal which no intelligent person could believe. 341810;1381053925;mircea_popescu;b0n1 as far as anyone knows they were not salted but put through 7500 iterations of whatever goop. 341811;1381054342;pankkake;that's pretty much what all scientists say - or maybe I have biais on those I know 341812;1381054347;pankkake;and yet, it goes on 341813;1381054464;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 40 @ 0.002979 = 0.1192 BTC [+] {2} 341814;1381054571;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmeTAWyXx00 341815;1381054572;ozbot;Bob Marley Babylon System Demo 1979 - YouTube 341816;1381054830;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 5978 @ 0.00012292 = 0.7348 BTC [-] {3} 341817;1381054952;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 13000 @ 0.0001227 = 1.5951 BTC [-] {2} 341818;1381054952;assbot;[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 90 @ 0.0098 = 0.882 BTC [-] 341819;1381055596;Vexual;a funny thing i have noticed about university et al, is that professors will get students to write and submit papers that for the basis of what they want to say later 341820;1381055603;Vexual;*form 341821;1381055666;Vexual;form over substance 341822;1381055684;assbot;[BTCTC] [B] [CIPHERMINE.B1] 40 @ 0.00812 = 0.3248 BTC [-] 341823;1381055684;assbot;[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.0816 = 0.2448 BTC [+] 341824;1381055771;Vexual;it can be called gruntwork, but when someone else is pulling the strings... 341825;1381055806;assbot;[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 3 @ 0.1346 = 0.4038 BTC [+] 341826;1381055982;jurov;;;bc,stats 341827;1381055985;gribble;Current Blocks: 262051 | Current Difficulty: 1.4881919980509263E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 262079 | Next Difficulty In: 28 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 hours, 6 minutes, and 39 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 189402885.915 | Estimated Percent Change: 27.27046 341828;1381056010;jurov;lol it's going to be 30% again? 341829;1381056050;pankkake;and this despite the many ddoes 341830;1381056078;Vexual;theres some facinating data mining going on in neroscience that throws the convention oh "hypothesis" out the window 341831;1381056444;Vexual;imaging crazy brains is cool science 341832;1381056556;Vexual;and when those wizards release their tools to the genetecists, boom, info 2.0 341833;1381057068;Vexual;psychiatry, where philospohy meets science 341834;1381057209;assbot;[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 52 @ 0.01 = 0.52 BTC [-] 341835;1381057226;Vexual;datamining with obscure data. dem patents 341836;1381057270;assbot;[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 26 @ 0.008002 = 0.2081 BTC [-] 341837;1381057420;Vexual;its a pity how all the good shit is fully funded 341838;1381057678;jurov;http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1nt0k3/what_is_something_youve_seen_that_no_one_will/cclqu68 the shit i'm reading sometimes 341839;1381057687;jurov;i should stop 341840;1381057734;Vexual;is america still a thing? 341841;1381057763;jurov;it's a hypothesis 341842;1381057800;Vexual;its people and acres and a spirit of innovation 341843;1381057813;jurov;and bald eagles 341844;1381057814;Vexual;but theyre all mental 341845;1381057976;Vexual;weve got fucking wedge tailed eagles which are way more boss, and would beast a bald eagle in any competition imaginable except baldness, and we just go about our business and don't parade our awesome eagles much very oft at all 341846;1381057988;pankkake;"Now, I I only had a government..." 341847;1381058034;pankkake;http://www.reddit.com/r/MURICA/ is fun 341848;1381058035;ozbot;'MURICA FUCK YEAH! 341849;1381058063;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.25 BTC [-] 341850;1381058724;Vexual;australia is best ralia http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fXO0CDSZT0 341851;1381059470;Vexual;also mining lease fees ahvent changed for 100 years, and we got rocks 341852;1381059588;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 7800 @ 0.00014788 = 1.1535 BTC [+] {4} 341853;1381059588;Vexual;kennilworth investors bought the operators a landcruiser and some salaries 341854;1381059634;Vexual;the magnetic imaging was done,it was double talk and paper pushing 341855;1381059698;Vexual;real miners never own the land where the lease is 341856;1381059722;Vexual;unless it wasnt owned before 341857;1381060005;Vexual;mining warden is nearly as boss as queen here 341858;1381060320;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.0029 = 0.29 BTC [-] 341859;1381060536;Vexual;goes like this 341860;1381060578;Vexual;applicant: i want 100 hectares as bordered by hese coordinates 341861;1381060608;pankkake;so kenilworthnothing is a scam? 341862;1381060622;Vexual;warden: are the borders runnung north south and east west and do you have the $374 and the approprate form 341863;1381060633;Vexual;applicant: yes 341864;1381060651;Vexual;warden: will you attempt to mine the and in your lifetime? 341865;1381060662;Vexual;applicant: yes 341866;1381060674;Vexual;warden: the court accepts the license 341867;1381060721;Vexual;pankkake, how much money did they get? 341868;1381060741;pankkake;I don't know, didn't follow it much 341869;1381060786;Vexual;i dont think its a scam by australian standards, but i'm guessing if they wanted they could chase burnside for more money 341870;1381060808;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69348300 BTC to 1`386`966 shares, 50 satoshi per share 341871;1381060835;Vexual;are they listed on the asx too? its well dodgy 341872;1381060950;Vexual;its about what one would expect with a speculative mining lease multiplied by bitcoin 2013 341873;1381061053;Vexual;and i'd say if the ira was a bother to uncle sam, their names might ring bells with prism 341874;1381061141;Vexual;but weve got more war criminals and psycopaths per capita than south amrica, so who cares 341875;1381061185;Vexual;freedom fighters, whatever your fancy 341876;1381061346;pankkake;I have a hard time understanding your points 341877;1381061405;Vexual;the world isnt big enough for speculative leaseholders anymore 341878;1381061429;Vexual;what you want is smart dudes, on the ground, mining in cheap labour countries 341879;1381061455;Vexual;gold in the philippines and africa 341880;1381061467;Vexual;people skills 341881;1381061541;Vexual;not buying diggers incase the land is profitable 341882;1381061609;Vexual;coz when the go bankrupt, they keep the diggers in the shed until after the creditors are paid, and noone stops them 341883;1381061663;Vexual;its the third oldest trick in the book, after selling your cooch and "get em hooked and jack up the price" 341884;1381061723;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 516 @ 0.0029 = 1.4964 BTC [-] 341885;1381061784;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 37 @ 0.00285003 = 0.1055 BTC [-] 341886;1381061845;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.25 = 3.75 BTC [-] {3} 341887;1381062149;Vexual;kenilworth is a mining lease taken out on a family farm with no intention of ever mining or allowing it to be mined, if there's even anything there 341888;1381062242;Vexual;new landcruiser. 341889;1381062333;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [BTC-GROWTH] 10 @ 0.08 = 0.8 BTC [-] 341890;1381062729;Vexual;im gonna have to get a gun like mp if i keep talking shit on the internet 341891;1381062786;Vexual;i imagine he had a german made 45 pistol 341892;1381062829;Vexual;the kind of thing that stops a conversation abruptly 341893;1381063184;Vexual;i imagine one can be a gentleman and own a gun in romania, but i might be wrong 341894;1381063348;Vexual;manila, now there you buy a $10 license and its cod machine pistols 341895;1381063488;Vexual;is just that little bit right of guam you know 341896;1381063711;Vexual;pankkake was it you talking of laying new sea cables the other day? 341897;1381063718;pankkake;no 341898;1381063725;Vexual;oh 341899;1381064006;Vexual;are you asian? 341900;1381064057;Vexual;coz asia is the place to lay cable 341901;1381064163;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.0120685 = 0.6034 BTC [+] {4} 341902;1381064164;Vexual;http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/71/Lower_NTK_Estate_old_squat_toilet.jpg 341903;1381064176;Vexual;goat 341904;1381064391;Vexual;coming soon to the crime section of bankok international airbort bookshop 341905;1381064417;Vexual;how dpr1.0 framed dpr2.0 for his own murder 341906;1381064498;Vexual;everyone gets off and they take more acid 341907;1381064529;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 136 @ 0.001244 = 0.1692 BTC [-] 341908;1381064556;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lTAT0dZMRw 341909;1381064557;ozbot;Scott McKenzie - San Francisco REMIX - YouTube 341910;1381064595;phish;.d 341911;1381064596;ozbot;148819199.80509 | Next Diff in 13 blocks | Estimated Change: 26.9513% in 0d 1h 30m 32s 341912;1381064651;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 11 @ 1.26 = 13.86 BTC [+] 341913;1381064737;Vexual;cexio 2002 341914;1381064773;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.263 BTC [+] 341915;1381065536;Vexual;no riddles today, theres a solar storm coming in three days 341916;1381065592;Vexual;id bitbet it, but it would be immoral 341917;1381065803;Vexual;yes i mean a coronal ejection from the sun 341918;1381065881;Vexual;quantify the magnitude you say? 341919;1381065932;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1308 @ 0.00125214 = 1.6378 BTC [+] {6} 341920;1381066004;Vexual;i say print out your bitcoin wallets just in case 341921;1381066359;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 68 @ 0.01206999 = 0.8208 BTC [+] 341922;1381066420;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 405 @ 0.01214887 = 4.9203 BTC [+] {3} 341923;1381066733;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnBi-LNM0Og 341924;1381066734;ozbot;Happy Mondays - Step On - YouTube 341925;1381066967;jurov;http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-payment-protocol-makeover/ - plan to establish bitcoin certificate authorities 341926;1381067005;jurov;But concerns over certificate security irritate Hearn. “The reality is that [certificate technology] is the best we’ve got, it’s being improved via initiatives like cert transparency, and it has a track record of stopping worst case adversaries.” 341927;1381067053;Vexual;i want afuckin refund 341928;1381067077;jurov;not a single word who shall manage the root certificate 341929;1381067108;jurov;Vexual: sorry to break your happy mood 341930;1381067117;Vexual;ya cant 341931;1381067349;jurov;oh it's prolly meant to build on existing SSL CA infrastructure?... god save us 341932;1381067354;Vexual;seems like bitcoin devs are going beyond what is required of the blockchain 341933;1381067451;jurov;oh, they do it since satoshi left. except when they have to fix the breakage. 341934;1381067473;Vexual;but we dont have to bip 341935;1381067494;Vexual;satoshi left ike dpr1.0 341936;1381067528;Vexual;except satoshi didnt keep getting a paycheck 341937;1381067574;Vexual;hey i made a disruptive thing, im audi 341938;1381067672;jurov;you mean like we "don't have to" buy a recognized ssl certificate? 341939;1381067708;jurov;i can see where this is supposed to go... to provide "SSL-secured(r)(tm) bitcoin deposit address" 341940;1381067723;jurov;you'll have to pay CA scammers for ssl cert? 341941;1381067732;Vexual;dont make me say it 341942;1381067793;jurov;cause, how else will the poor customer be sure the address is really yours? 341943;1381067805;Vexual;read 341944;1381067815;jurov;makes me sick... hopefully this won't fly 341945;1381067830;Vexual;it will, you dont need to use it 341946;1381067923;jurov;me not. but what if i get inquiries like "but my wallet says coinbr deposit address is untrusted!!!"? 341947;1381067936;Vexual;:) 341948;1381068039;Vexual;relax 341949;1381068044;pankkake;bitcoin developers using broken CA system when they have… namecoin 341950;1381068108;Vexual;ill grant you its more kinds or irony than a trilemma post, but just like them, don't lose no sleep 341951;1381068114;jurov;pankkake: this. or the addy can be verified in distributed manner by other my customers gpg signing it 341952;1381068198;jurov;heck, or even btc-signing it 341953;1381068327;Vexual;my handspan exceeds my inet nippular siastance 341954;1381068332;Vexual;*inter 341955;1381068339;Vexual;*distance 341956;1381068387;jurov;and what does it mean? heightened testosterone? 341957;1381068398;Vexual;marfans? 341958;1381068497;jurov;kleptomania? 341959;1381068637;Vexual;no 341960;1381068660;Vexual;i just like vectors 341961;1381068678;Vexual;where do you live jurov? 341962;1381068747;Vexual;i like to work out the geographical crow flight half way point 341963;1381068803;Vexual;ill also just get your mothers maiden name for your star chart 341964;1381068863;jurov;wait, they use what now in star charts? 341965;1381068875;Vexual;penis size? 341966;1381068915;Vexual;its just for the chart 341967;1381068921;assbot;[BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 84 @ 0.001221 = 0.1026 BTC [-] 341968;1381068956;jurov;and i did tell where i live several times already, do your research 341969;1381068967;Vexual;did you? 341970;1381068977;Vexual;ddid i? 341971;1381068982;assbot;[BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 8 @ 0.4625 = 3.7 BTC [+] 341972;1381068995;Vexual;i actually am interested in halfway 341973;1381069004;Vexual;unlike your mother or your penis 341974;1381069077;Vexual;as a bonus you get to knpow the direction to avoid 341975;1381069105;jurov;as a result of half-assed research? 341976;1381069125;jurov;if, then i want full-assed one 341977;1381069176;Vexual;well im gessing its somewhere in the middle of the pacific' 341978;1381069202;Vexual;see how i dropped the u? 341979;1381069245;jurov;no idon't want to see what ur doing with the keyboard 341980;1381069306;Vexual;i always eat the extra enter key 341981;1381069331;VanCleef;vexual pinoy ka ba? 341982;1381069337;VanCleef;muzta? 341983;1381069340;Vexual;shabbadabba 341984;1381069353;VanCleef;siiiiige 341985;1381069363;Vexual;yeah i dont know what that is 341986;1381069384;Vexual;where are u vancleef? holland? 341987;1381069392;VanCleef;brazil 341988;1381069406;jurov;i didn't considered human tallow there edible 341989;1381069413;jurov;*consider 341990;1381069463;Vexual;human tallow? fork man 341991;1381069476;Vexual;are u dutch vancleef? 341992;1381069482;jurov;on the other enter key 341993;1381069491;Vexual;our halfway is pacific ocean 341994;1381069493;VanCleef;i'm not a filthy dutchmen 341995;1381069506;Vexual;why so van? 341996;1381069529;VanCleef;because i use soap 341997;1381069562;Vexual;to the root? 341998;1381069603;VanCleef;i dont believe in your magic 341999;1381069607;Vexual;i dont undertsnad the connection 342000;1381069613;jurov;i think our halfway is the atlantic then 342001;1381069702;Vexual;wise 342002;1381069724;Diablo-D3;;;ticker 342003;1381069724;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 135.01509, Best ask: 135.49499, Bid-ask spread: 0.47990, Last trade: 135.00505, 24 hour volume: 3673.53219031, 24 hour low: 135.00505, 24 hour high: 138.00000, 24 hour vwap: 136.56759 342004;1381069802;Vexual;vancannibal, our halfway could be mauritius if we went the ,ong way 342005;1381070005;Vexual;sau paulo 342006;1381070180;Vexual;your dad made a machine 342007;1381070446;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 7574 @ 0.00013347 = 1.0109 BTC [-] {6} 342008;1381070568;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 10 @ 0.0124 = 0.124 BTC [+] 342009;1381070690;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.12 BTC [+] 342010;1381070873;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 7574 @ 0.0001304 = 0.9876 BTC [-] {2} 342011;1381070873;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 1.2889 = 3.8667 BTC [+] {2} 342012;1381071361;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00084843 = 2.9695 BTC [-] {2} 342013;1381071544;assbot;[BTCTC] [B] [CIPHERMINE.B1] 20 @ 0.0082 = 0.164 BTC [+] 342014;1381071605;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 80610 @ 0.00012366 = 9.9682 BTC [-] {6} 342015;1381071605;assbot;[BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 1116 @ 0.00129789 = 1.4484 BTC [+] {2} 342016;1381071732;Vexual;http://ethno.ihp.sinica.edu.tw/en/southwest/imgs/WA/WA_07-06.jpg 342017;1381071788;assbot;[BTCTC] [B] [CIPHERMINE.B1] 180 @ 0.0082 = 1.476 BTC [+] 342018;1381072120;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfS5tgNC6qw 342019;1381072121;ozbot;BULLET STUNT KAMMO TAKHAR - YouTube 342020;1381072398;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 1.29000001 = 2.58 BTC [+] 342021;1381072459;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 6450 @ 0.0001517 = 0.9785 BTC [+] {3} 342022;1381072459;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 1.3 = 3.9 BTC [+] {2} 342023;1381072581;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 1.29000001 = 2.58 BTC [-] 342024;1381072920;Vexual;there was a storm on the 3rd, i might be wrong 342025;1381072938;Vexual;fuck it, let it ride 342026;1381072972;Vexual;10/10/13 342027;1381073862;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 1.28 BTC [-] 342028;1381074106;assbot;[BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 29 @ 0.01256896 = 0.3645 BTC [+] {3} 342029;1381074167;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 256 @ 0.00066004 = 0.169 BTC [-] {3} 342030;1381074228;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 212 @ 0.00065094 = 0.138 BTC [-] {2} 342031;1381074594;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.266 BTC [+] 342032;1381074777;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [BTC-GROWTH] 5 @ 0.08 = 0.4 BTC [-] 342033;1381074838;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 1.298875 = 10.391 BTC [+] {2} 342034;1381075204;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 13 @ 1.299 = 16.887 BTC [+] 342035;1381075326;assbot;[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 8 @ 0.04197 = 0.3358 BTC [+] 342036;1381075640;Jere_Jones;ThickAsThieves: Your presence is requested in #asicminer 342037;1381076430;mircea_popescu;any competition imaginable except baldness << lmao 342038;1381076663;mircea_popescu;<pankkake> so kenilworthnothing is a scam? << it's an amazing business minus the amazing and the business part. 342039;1381076663;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 342040;1381076663;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 342041;1381076817;mircea_popescu;jurov that dude is retarded jesus. 342042;1381076870;jurov;who? vexual? 342043;1381076912;mircea_popescu;no hearn & co. 342044;1381076936;mircea_popescu;"certificates are shit but nevertheless i don't understand anything and really want to matter so here's my authoritative opinion on shit i really have no business discussing 342045;1381076953;mircea_popescu;please pay attention to me because i hjave a proven track record of having accidentally forked the chain and i really suck at coding" 342046;1381077141;mircea_popescu;anyway, forget about power rangers. here : The programmers wife tells him: Run to the store and pick up a loaf of bread. If they have eggs, get a dozen.. He comes back with 12 loaves of bread. 342047;1381077211;VanCleef;< mircea_popescu> HH so kenilworthnothing is a scam? << it's an amazing business minus the 342048;1381077211;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 342049;1381077214;VanCleef;amazing and the business part. - lol 342050;1381077214;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 342051;1381077329;mod6;;;bc,stats 342052;1381077331;gribble;Current Blocks: 262097 | Current Difficulty: 1.8928124928103292E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 264095 | Next Difficulty In: 1998 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 16 hours, 46 minutes, and 36 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 326660200.57 | Estimated Percent Change: 72.57927 342053;1381077449;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: "I gave the fool an ax, so he would bring some twigs; so to the mosque he ran, and smashed the door to sticks." 342054;1381077478;asciilifeform;(impromptu hack of a translation from russian, originally of a persian rhyme, that i read as a kid.) 342055;1381077522;asciilifeform;(re: programmer & his bread.) 342056;1381077622;mircea_popescu;:p 342057;1381077642;mircea_popescu;about the ddoses : i suspect bitcoin mining will fundamentally change the way internet adressing works. 342058;1381077665;mircea_popescu;the problem is that even if you aren't trying to do a 50% attack, it is now more lucrative to ddos someone than to increase your mining farm. 342059;1381077696;mircea_popescu;if you hold 10% of hashpower and another dork holds 10% of hashpower, you can either spend mns of dollars to add another 1% to your hashing or to knock him offline 342060;1381077715;mircea_popescu;never before has it actually been millions of dollars in cash for ddosing a target. 342061;1381077739;asciilifeform;knocking the competing miner offline helps all of the survivors, not just you, though 342062;1381077743;mircea_popescu;and quite frankly nothing else happening on the internet today matters by comparison, so it'll have to change. 342063;1381077756;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform yeah. which is why you can probably just start it and they'll pile in. 342064;1381077762;mircea_popescu;becomes very much lord of the flies. 342065;1381077810;asciilifeform;when rats in a box, they eat each other, the last one dies of its wounds, and the box will eventually contain something else. 342066;1381077920;mircea_popescu;exactly. 342067;1381077946;mircea_popescu;this is much more of a problem for the future than anything the retardevs are fiddling with. 342068;1381077986;asciilifeform;the sad part is that this isn't even a hard problem. 342069;1381078011;mircea_popescu;im not so sure. 342070;1381078129;asciilifeform;trivial solution: a kind of reverse mining pool, where people are paid small btc continuously to run single-purpose proxies 342071;1381078142;asciilifeform;that makes your mega-asic-cluster look like a mining botnet 342072;1381078149;asciilifeform;nothing to ddos 342073;1381078236;asciilifeform;or, more intelligently, solo mining distributed over multiple independent proper btc nodes. 342074;1381078315;assbot;[BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 1343 @ 0.001221 = 1.6398 BTC [-] 342075;1381078557;KRS1;wouldnt that make it more robust and less prone to failure 342076;1381078559;assbot;[BTCTC] [B] [CIPHERMINE.B1] 212 @ 0.0082 = 1.7384 BTC [+] 342077;1381078681;assbot;[BTCTC] [RSM] 124 @ 0.0025 = 0.31 BTC [-] 342078;1381078742;assbot;[BTCTC] [RSM] 164 @ 0.002501 = 0.4102 BTC [+] 342079;1381078758;mircea_popescu;the latter would be the ideal solution. 342080;1381078773;mircea_popescu;my secret hope is that THIS is what will end up resolving the "not paid to convey tx" problem 342081;1381078781;mircea_popescu;you will be paid, by the miners who don't want to be ddos'd to shit. 342082;1381078811;mircea_popescu;if that indeed is how the chips fall i'll be quite impressed with satoshi's genius, for originally i thought the node pauyment problem was oversight. 342083;1381078925;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 18000 @ 0.00016296 = 2.9333 BTC [+] {6} 342084;1381078926;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 115 @ 0.01255 = 1.4433 BTC [-] {2} 342085;1381078986;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2000 @ 0.0001749 = 0.3498 BTC [+] 342086;1381079169;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 4832 @ 0.000175 = 0.8456 BTC [+] 342087;1381079184;kakobrekla;fuckin microtik, pressed the wrong button, lost an hour of life. 342088;1381079230;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2000 @ 0.0001787 = 0.3574 BTC [+] 342089;1381079291;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2458 @ 0.0001788 = 0.4395 BTC [+] 342090;1381079313;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla same thing happened to me earlier. 342091;1381079353;mircea_popescu;was fondling this chick, accidentally touched the button, one hour later i was back on my feet. 342092;1381079380;kakobrekla;:p 342093;1381079386;pankkake;I'm not sure I understand this analogy 342094;1381079430;pankkake;also, microtik does not respect your freedoms 342095;1381079442;mircea_popescu;http://www.urbit.org/2013/09/26/palaz.html < loller. 342096;1381079442;ozbot;Urbit - Tea at the Palaz of Hoon 342097;1381079494;jurov;what? and bitches do respect? 342098;1381079523;mircea_popescu;totally. 342099;1381079530;jurov;mircea i read that yest, had brain meltdown, filed it for later 342100;1381079533;mircea_popescu;if they don't it's the little room for them. 342101;1381079567;mircea_popescu;jurov for the record, i'm not pushing it, asciilifeform is pushing it. imo the guy's walking around with shoes too large for his feet. but anyway. 342102;1381079655;jurov;yea i know it's originally from him.. and i understood so far he sems to intend to implement some 342103;1381079669;jurov;insanely simplified functional language 342104;1381079679;jurov;in , say, 500 transistors 342105;1381079695;jurov;and thus make provably correct hardware 342106;1381079712;mircea_popescu;basically, let's take all the reason people don't use forth and add mud. 342107;1381079779;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 10001 @ 0.0001787 = 1.7872 BTC [-] {2} 342108;1381079901;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.01250002 = 0.3125 BTC [-] 342109;1381079962;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 78 @ 0.01250001 = 0.975 BTC [-] {2} 342110;1381080267;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 477 @ 0.01250041 = 5.9627 BTC [+] {2} 342111;1381080415;mod6;this urbit thing is neato 342112;1381080694;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 63 @ 0.01288959 = 0.812 BTC [+] {4} 342113;1381081865;nubbins`;hi 342114;1381081914;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 52 @ 0.01289999 = 0.6708 BTC [+] 342115;1381082028;nubbins`;mircea_popescu: i've got a list of magistrate judges that were serving in 1993, but your blog thinks i'm a robot. 342116;1381082039;mircea_popescu;heya! 342117;1381082052;mircea_popescu;you need to give it a few seconds after you load a page, otherwise if you just paste shit in 342118;1381082054;mircea_popescu;it will spit 342119;1381082251;nubbins`;hmm, been on the page for a good 10 minutes now 342120;1381082299;nubbins`;n/m, there we go 342121;1381082315;nubbins`;there were apparently only 46 magistrage judges in 1993 342122;1381082409;mircea_popescu;nubbins` 46 ? 342123;1381082416;mircea_popescu;no fucking way ?! 342124;1381082420;nubbins`;i know, that's not even one per state 342125;1381082424;nubbins`;and new jersey had like 5 342126;1381082435;mircea_popescu;hmmmm 342127;1381082439;nubbins`;i guess there are other types of judges besides magistrate judges 342128;1381082443;mircea_popescu;you know magistrature is relatively recent ... 342129;1381082447;mircea_popescu;well yes, district judges. 342130;1381082452;mircea_popescu;holy shit no fucking way 46 ?! 342131;1381082460;nubbins`;yep 342132;1381082462;nubbins`;http://www.fjc.gov/history/export/jb.txt 342133;1381082474;nubbins`;CSV dump 342134;1381082487;nubbins`;"Bankruptcy and Magistrate service" is the final column 342135;1381082488;mircea_popescu;The directory includes the biographies of judges presidentially appointed during good behavior who have served since 1789 on the U.S. District Courts, the U.S. Courts of Appeals, the Supreme Court of the United States, the former U.S. Circuit Courts, and the federal judiciary's courts of special jurisdiction. 342136;1381082494;mircea_popescu;it's the presidentially appointed 342137;1381082502;mircea_popescu;i thought they get appointed by the court itself 342138;1381082519;nubbins`;a ton of them got appointed by clinton in late oct 1993 342139;1381082543;mircea_popescu;hmmm 342140;1381082561;mircea_popescu;you know you might be right even. 342141;1381082585;assbot;[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 48 @ 0.03766228 = 1.8078 BTC [-] {5} 342142;1381082646;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 5000 @ 0.00013013 = 0.6507 BTC [-] {3} 342143;1381082675;nubbins`;anyway, i probably precluded myself from any of that bounty by posting that info so early 342144;1381082683;mircea_popescu;why ? 342145;1381082698;nubbins`;well, i just saved someone a bunch of work 342146;1381082711;mircea_popescu;still gets allocated to you 342147;1381082717;nubbins`;o 342148;1381082757;nubbins`;anyway, fun task 342149;1381082766;nubbins`;#2 is a LOT more work 342150;1381082788;mircea_popescu;yeah. 342151;1381082890;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 1.335 = 4.005 BTC [+] 342152;1381083042;Namworld;[14:04] <@assbot> [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 5000 @ 0.00013013 = 0.6507 BTC [-] {3} 342153;1381083043;Namworld;lol 342154;1381083088;Namworld;1 month to fall to 1/30th of price 342155;1381083194;mircea_popescu;but what a month. 342156;1381083243;kakobrekla;!t bt labcoin 342157;1381083243;assbot;[BTCT:LABCOIN] 1D: 0.0001226 / 0.00017 / 0.0002495 (591825 shares, 101.2 BTC), 7D: 0.0001226 / 0.00024 / 0.0004 (3022640 shares, 713.3 BTC), 30D: 0.0001226 / 0.00149 / 0.003989 (16872541 shares, 25162.5 BTC) 342158;1381083744;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 60 @ 0.005011 = 0.3007 BTC [-] 342159;1381083805;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 1.33899999 BTC [+] 342160;1381083927;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.251 = 3.753 BTC [-] 342161;1381083988;assbot;[BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 502 @ 0.00129843 = 0.6518 BTC [+] {4} 342162;1381084110;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 1.3 = 2.6 BTC [-] 342163;1381084232;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 700 @ 0.01341969 = 9.3938 BTC [+] {7} 342164;1381084233;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4865 @ 0.00028845 = 1.4033 BTC [+] 342165;1381084984;mircea_popescu;mod6 http://trilema.com/2013/so-this-urbit-thing/ might interest you then 342166;1381085147;assbot;[BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 3 @ 0.51 = 1.53 BTC [+] 342167;1381085492;mod6;I just saw that. :) 342168;1381085506;mod6;This thing is pretty neat, might take me some time to learn hoon tho. 342169;1381085574;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 26 @ 0.005012 = 0.1303 BTC [+] 342170;1381085578;KRS1;oh cool complimentary trilema articles 342171;1381085607;mod6;I don't wanna get too far off course just yet. Gotta wrap up this current bitotter work and get further along with my look into cramer-shoup 342172;1381085744;mod6;i kinda think the idea of the urbit ship being virtual real estate. Can only be transfered 9 times before it has no value. 342173;1381085760;nubbins`;"And then for each of these individually compile a record showing all their rulings, orders and decisions which in any way touched upon individual rights of privacy, broadly construed so as to include anything relating to the production of communications of private persons in any written form, limited to an adversarial proceeding in which the US Government, or any agency or representative thereof w 342174;1381085761;nubbins`;party, with proper case reference by number and where available link to published court proceedings" 342175;1381085772;nubbins`;^^^ is this restricted to the period of time when they were a magistrate judge? 342176;1381085776;benkay_;mod6 it's not a permanent thing 342177;1381085781;mod6;Strange. Yet, kinda cool at first look here. I'll play with it a bit. 342178;1381085818;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.3 = 5.2 BTC [+] 342179;1381085873;mircea_popescu;nubbins` yup 342180;1381085880;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 1.23205 = 24.641 BTC [-] {3} 342181;1381085881;nubbins`;ok, great 342182;1381085898;mircea_popescu;obviously if they become a senator it's moot 342183;1381085911;nubbins`;yeah 342184;1381085920;nubbins`;this is going to be a very small list 342185;1381085935;nubbins`;to my surprise 342186;1381085952;nubbins`;well, wait now 342187;1381085961;nubbins`;i mean, some of these judges are still judges 342188;1381085965;nubbins`;just not magistrate judges 342189;1381085994;mircea_popescu;hm ? 342190;1381085995;nubbins`;for example, Africk has issued privacy rulings in 2005 and 2013, but was only a magistrate judge from 1990-2002 342191;1381086015;mircea_popescu;well as long as he still issued rulings, you wan them 342192;1381086031;nubbins`;sure 342193;1381086071;mircea_popescu;how do you establish he's only issued so in 2005 and 2013 ? 342194;1381086250;nubbins`;searched records from us gov printing office 342195;1381086323;nubbins`;to be fair, i used the word "privacy" as a search qualifier, so i may have missed privacy-related rulings that did not use the word "privacy" 342196;1381086329;mircea_popescu;indeed. 342197;1381086343;nubbins`;but i suspect that the number of said rulings would be vanishingly small 342198;1381086343;mircea_popescu;broadly construed so as to include anything relating to the production of communications of private persons in any written for 342199;1381086368;mircea_popescu;i don't think there's any way to avoid going through his caselist 342200;1381086387;mircea_popescu;you can sort to exclude cases where govt is not a party, and maybe cases where no persons are parties, 342201;1381086398;nubbins`;yeah, that removed most of the chaff 342202;1381086400;mircea_popescu;but otherwise you kinda have to skim the complaints 342203;1381086452;nubbins`;can a court visit the issue of privacy without using the word, though? 342204;1381086495;nubbins`;i mean, they can talk all they want about communications in any written form, but unless the word "privacy" or "private" comes up, they're not really discussing privacy, are they? 342205;1381086733;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.01304204 = 0.6521 BTC [-] {4} 342206;1381086840;mircea_popescu;yes they are. 342207;1381086854;mircea_popescu;if Joe is ordered to produce the letter Moe sent him during discovery of Jane's divorce, 342208;1381086858;mircea_popescu;this qualifies. 342209;1381086894;mircea_popescu;arguably the part where privacy is touched upon without being specifically said so is more important than the other. 342210;1381086982;nubbins`;arguably i could exclude all such cases and still win a fat bounty if nobody produces evidence that i left out any rulings 342211;1381086995;mircea_popescu;arguably. 342212;1381087015;nubbins`;that's probably what i'm going to do, fyi 342213;1381087029;mircea_popescu;well, free market of bitcoin. 342214;1381087038;mircea_popescu;it's how mining works too. 342215;1381087065;nubbins`;wait, mining works? 342216;1381087068;nubbins`;lel, &c 342217;1381087071;mircea_popescu;;;estimate 342218;1381087072;gribble;Next difficulty estimate | 280954568.202 based on data since last change | 212713646.91 based on data for last three days 342219;1381087079;mircea_popescu;holy shit!? 342220;1381087103;nubbins`;yeah, lots of sad pandas with usb block erupters today 342221;1381087123;nubbins`;not just today, of course 342222;1381087131;mircea_popescu;lol pity the forum isn't up so i could forcefeed everyone -pr's buffett quote 342223;1381087169;nubbins`;take consolation in the fact that they're quietly worrying while hitting F5 on /r/bitcoin 342224;1381087206;nubbins`;now, if you'll excuse me, i'm told there is a cat in my bed that i must go bother 342225;1381087236;mircea_popescu;bother all the cats. 342226;1381087349;saulimus;is there a precise time announced when btct will disable trading? 342227;1381087507;dub;does anyone give a fuck? 342228;1381087630;KRS1;hmm 342229;1381087648;assbot;[BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 156 @ 0.001221 = 0.1905 BTC [-] 342230;1381087710;assbot;[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.0414 = 0.1656 BTC [+] {2} 342231;1381088083;kakobrekla;yes, a negative fuck. 342232;1381088107;mod6;don't destroy the universe! 342233;1381088162;kakobrekla;:) 342234;1381088380;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.22 BTC [-] 342235;1381088502;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.0131 = 0.393 BTC [-] {2} 342236;1381088545;mircea_popescu;you can't unscrew a pregnant lightbulb. 342237;1381088609;kakobrekla;18:40.43 ( mircea_popescu ) about the ddoses : i suspect bitcoin mining will fundamentally change the way internet adressing works. 342238;1381088615;kakobrekla;doesnt p2pool solve this already? 342239;1381088634;mircea_popescu;not large enough yet i don't think, and has other problems 342240;1381088639;mircea_popescu;(does it work with mm yet ?) 342241;1381088671;kakobrekla;i dont think mm is an issue 342242;1381088735;KRS1;thats pretty deep 342243;1381088787;kakobrekla;apparently mm already works with p2pool 342244;1381088816;mircea_popescu;a ok 342245;1381088836;mircea_popescu;then pretty cool, maybe it gets more widely used. 342246;1381088871;kakobrekla;it will if there will be a need for it 342247;1381089295;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.0134 = 0.335 BTC [+] 342248;1381089381;Apocalyptic; thats pretty deep // indeed 342249;1381089478;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0134 = 1.34 BTC [+] 342250;1381089905;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.16 BTC [-] 342251;1381090576;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 12000 @ 0.00016 = 1.92 BTC [+] 342252;1381090821;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 0.12005 = 0.2401 BTC [+] {2} 342253;1381091186;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 0.12 = 0.24 BTC [-] 342254;1381091187;assbot;[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.08107 = 0.2432 BTC [-] {2} 342255;1381091735;assbot;[BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 8 @ 0.01319374 = 0.1055 BTC [+] {3} 342256;1381092220;ThickAsThieves;"Has anyone started a "Yelp" for bitcoin: Exchanges, clients, vendors, and mining hardware?" 342257;1381092238;ThickAsThieves;lol, reddit has gone full reddit 342258;1381092316;ThickAsThieves;it's not enough to tell every bitcoin thing how it should be working, now they will rate how well it does so 342259;1381092528;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 1.33899 BTC [+] 342260;1381092894;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 1.33899 = 2.678 BTC [+] 342261;1381092895;assbot;[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 100 @ 0.0014 = 0.14 BTC [+] 342262;1381092955;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 0.11110001 BTC [-] 342263;1381092956;assbot;[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 100 @ 0.0012 = 0.12 BTC [-] 342264;1381093016;assbot;[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 135 @ 0.00114012 = 0.1539 BTC [-] {3} 342265;1381093138;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1239 @ 0.00028 = 0.3469 BTC [-] 342266;1381093626;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.2 = 2.4 BTC [+] 342267;1381093850;dub;http://terriblerealestateagentphotos.com/ 342268;1381093852;ozbot;Terrible real estate agent photographs 342269;1381093877;dub;having just spent a year or so looking for a house I could have contributed some reat content 342270;1381094007;dexX7_;http://25.media.tumblr.com/40f72ad800fbc7d885c237420144a71b/tumblr_mu8ys4WzLu1rrqskho1_500.jpg xD 342271;1381094399;jurov;http://31.media.tumblr.com/ce83f6c430336d4551704835f4617b6c/tumblr_msg5kgiXox1rrqskho1_500.jpg i like this vampire one 342272;1381094405;jurov;and horse, too 342273;1381094968;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 1.33899999 = 13.39 BTC [+] {2} 342274;1381095029;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 1.34 BTC [+] 342275;1381095090;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 598 @ 0.00016799 = 0.1005 BTC [+] {2} 342276;1381095226;nubbins`;man, when i was in the market for a house, i saw some crazy shit 342277;1381095237;nubbins`;one house had a moat cut into the concrete slab in the basement 342278;1381095241;nubbins`;another had a dirt floor 342279;1381095273;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3 BTC [+] 342280;1381095553;dub;I put an offer on one where they'd left grow lights behind in the basement 342281;1381095577;dub;behind an obvious fake wall 342282;1381095761;nubbins`;hahaha 342283;1381095780;nubbins`;yeah, i've seen a few houses with "rooms" in the basement 342284;1381095792;nubbins`;no light fixtures, just hooks in the ceiling and ventilation everywhere 342285;1381095863;nubbins`;i ended up buying the row house with the schizophrenic hooker w/ tourette's next door, so uh, victory nubbins` 342286;1381096145;freshcoin;!hax 342287;1381096249;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 1.34198 = 6.7099 BTC [+] {2} 342288;1381096250;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1000 @ 0.000168 = 0.168 BTC [+] 342289;1381096615;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.31179999 = 6.559 BTC [+] {3} 342290;1381096676;assbot;[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 14 @ 0.0415 = 0.581 BTC [+] 342291;1381096859;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 195 @ 0.00287127 = 0.5599 BTC [+] {3} 342292;1381097030;jborkl;Kncminer smoking out 342293;1381097042;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00285104 = 0.1426 BTC [+] 342294;1381097051;jborkl;http://m.imgur.com/2UZuUzH 342295;1381097051;ozbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 342296;1381097072;nubbins`;oof 342297;1381097086;kakobrekla;hardcore 342298;1381097103;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.32 = 3.96 BTC [+] 342299;1381097247;kakobrekla;where is this from jborkl, their lab or shipped miner? 342300;1381097289;jborkl;I think shipped miner, I found it on their forum posted by a regular user 342301;1381097309;kakobrekla;aha 342302;1381097357;jborkl;Ther are two units reported burned from what I can see 342303;1381097418;dub;toasty 342304;1381097434;dub;I just heard alberto is behind labcoin 342305;1381097435;jborkl;http://m.imgur.com/a/hyA3a 342306;1381097435;ozbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 342307;1381097449;nubbins`;alberto european styling gel? 342308;1381097450;kakobrekla;BDT alberto? 342309;1381097456;kakobrekla;you gotta be shitting me 342310;1381097466;jborkl;Who is Alberto? 342311;1381097475;nubbins`;http://www.albertoeuropean.ca/DynamicContent/Stylopedia/images/6739b7d0-d29e-40b4-8ac0-2f5f74a13dad_MainImage.png 342312;1381097483;dub;bitscalper, bit day trade, etc 342313;1381097491;kakobrekla;guys 20k btc iirc 342314;1381097493;kakobrekla;eh 342315;1381097494;kakobrekla;owes 342316;1381097496;kakobrekla;to the guys 342317;1381097532;dub;https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=alberto+armandi 342318;1381097537;kakobrekla;yeah 342319;1381097544;kakobrekla;scammer 342320;1381097720;kakobrekla;>>Alberto Armandi, an ex-boyfriend of Alessia 342321;1381097722;kakobrekla;zomg 342322;1381097726;kakobrekla;http://newsbitcoin.com/?p=14153 342323;1381097728;ozbot;An overview and update of the Labcoin scam | NewsBitcoin.com 342324;1381097774;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 7161 @ 0.00017036 = 1.2199 BTC [+] {2} 342325;1381097803;dexX7_;kakobrekla: http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinStocks/comments/1ncdf1/labcoin_outed_as_a_scam/ << summary 342326;1381097815;kakobrekla;i hope two things happen here, 342327;1381097821;kakobrekla;1. people lose as much money as possible 342328;1381097826;kakobrekla;2. AA goes to jail 342329;1381097895;dexX7_;sounds fair 342330;1381097899;kakobrekla;i know all about AA and his failures, even spoke to him on skype a year or so ago, total retard 342331;1381097917;kakobrekla;i just wasnt sure it was behind labcoin 342332;1381097931;kakobrekla;though i made that joke a while ago 342333;1381097946;kakobrekla;that it would be extra funny if AA is behind it 342334;1381097950;dexX7_;all that above is speculation though 342335;1381098028;dexX7_;this is one of the newest clues: (from the frist q&a on aug 8 - still needs confirmation) [11:41:30] * labcoin_dev (~alberto@host173-29-dynamic.49-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) has joined #labcoin 342336;1381098042;kakobrekla;lmao 342337;1381098066;kakobrekla;makes sense 342338;1381098073;kakobrekla;since he cant show his face around anymore 342339;1381098112;dexX7_;he's most likely in hong kong right now 342340;1381098138;kakobrekla;nothing will come out of it 342341;1381098155;kakobrekla;except he made some coin again 342342;1381098262;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 42 @ 0.01349975 = 0.567 BTC [+] {3} 342343;1381098333;kakobrekla;i see ppl haveing lots of problems running kncminers 342344;1381098384;nubbins`;are they expected to ROI? i seem to recall figuring at one point that people would need them in-hand in september in order to break even 342345;1381098385;blastbob1;kakobrekla: 34 of 36 boards are working fine :) 342346;1381098419;kakobrekla;so you ordered like 9 of those ? 342347;1381098443;blastbob1;have 27 in total 342348;1381098449;blastbob1;got 9 for now 342349;1381098457;blastbob1;rest should be hashing coming week 342350;1381098459;kakobrekla;not bad 342351;1381098518;blastbob1;had problem with the recommended 850w choice 342352;1381098528;blastbob1;first firmware pulls 4.4amps 342353;1381098541;blastbob1;so it killed the fuse on the PSU 342354;1381098566;kakobrekla;cooling is adequate? 342355;1381098567;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2212 @ 0.0001331 = 0.2944 BTC [-] 342356;1381098596;blastbob1;yea 342357;1381098599;blastbob1;DC with good flow 342358;1381098663;kakobrekla;shame you have to have external ugly atx psu 342359;1381098717;blastbob1;yea, got messy in the racks 342360;1381098750;assbot;[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.09833333 = 0.295 BTC [+] {3} 342361;1381098773;kakobrekla;got any pics? 342362;1381098811;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 25545 @ 0.00013093 = 3.3446 BTC [-] {7} 342363;1381098815;blastbob1;http://p2pool.nl/blog/mining-update/ 342364;1381098816;ozbot;Mining update | 2GMTA Blog 342365;1381098901;kakobrekla;a, you are running addiction? 342366;1381098915;blastbob1;yea Tyrion and me 342367;1381098925;kakobrekla;who is Tyrion 342368;1381098937;blastbob1;Tyrion70 on btctalk 342369;1381098953;kakobrekla;a i see he is here too, k 342370;1381099041;blastbob1;yea 342371;1381099055;assbot;[BTCTC] [RSM] 99 @ 0.003005 = 0.2975 BTC [-] 342372;1381099177;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.PURCHASE] 81 @ 0.006212 = 0.5032 BTC [+] 342373;1381099909;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00084229 = 5.6433 BTC [-] {2} 342374;1381100353;jurov;;;bc,stats 342375;1381100355;gribble;Current Blocks: 262139 | Current Difficulty: 1.8928124928103292E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 264095 | Next Difficulty In: 1956 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 5 hours, 46 minutes, and 48 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 229942987.596 | Estimated Percent Change: 21.48218 342376;1381100458;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 201 @ 0.0006014 = 0.1209 BTC [-] {2} 342377;1381100885;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 138 @ 0.01362767 = 1.8806 BTC [+] {3} 342378;1381101617;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1160 @ 0.0001301 = 0.1509 BTC [-] 342379;1381101861;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 27 @ 0.0138 = 0.3726 BTC [+] 342380;1381103619;phish;;;genrate 30000 342381;1381103620;gribble;The expected generation output, at 30000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 189281249.281, is 0.0797078186573 BTC per day and 0.00332115911072 BTC per hour. 342382;1381103630;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 1.345 = 2.69 BTC [+] 342383;1381104256;dub;;;nethash 342384;1381104256;gribble;1543918.41334 342385;1381104796;Namworld;uh... Bitfinex still exists? 342386;1381104909;Namworld;astonishing 342387;1381105399;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.275 BTC [-] 342388;1381105704;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 1.37 = 6.85 BTC [+] 342389;1381105765;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 1.3799 BTC [+] 342390;1381105766;assbot;[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 12 @ 0.037 = 0.444 BTC [-] {2} 342391;1381105766;assbot;[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 3 @ 0.1401 = 0.4203 BTC [+] 342392;1381105887;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [COG.F2] 1 @ 1.5 BTC [+] 342393;1381106070;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 1796 @ 0.00500843 = 8.9951 BTC [-] {7} 342394;1381106192;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 24 @ 1.275 = 30.6 BTC [-] 342395;1381107839;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6650 @ 0.00083983 = 5.5849 BTC [-] {2} 342396;1381108632;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 1.38 = 2.76 BTC [+] 342397;1381109852;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.328 = 5.312 BTC [+] {2} 342398;1381110157;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.01310044 = 1.31 BTC [-] {8} 342399;1381110279;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00083846 = 5.8692 BTC [-] 342400;1381110401;assbot;[BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 1 @ 0.45 BTC [-] 342401;1381110828;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [BTC-GROWTH] 285 @ 0.0800407 = 22.8116 BTC [+] {2} 342402;1381111804;assbot;[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 93 @ 0.03853763 = 3.584 BTC [+] {2} 342403;1381112048;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 2000 @ 0.00500024 = 10.0005 BTC [-] {2} 342404;1381112109;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.328 BTC [+] 342405;1381112597;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [BTC-GROWTH] 35 @ 0.07977142 = 2.792 BTC [-] {2} 342406;1381112658;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.3285 = 2.657 BTC [+] {2} 342407;1381112658;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1574 @ 0.00084028 = 1.3226 BTC [+] 342408;1381112719;assbot;[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 13 @ 0.00998992 = 0.1299 BTC [+] {2} 342409;1381113207;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.329 = 2.658 BTC [+] 342410;1381113634;assbot;[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 97 @ 0.00999555 = 0.9696 BTC [+] {3} 342411;1381114915;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 17 @ 1.329 = 22.593 BTC [+] 342412;1381114976;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.333 BTC [+] 342413;1381115525;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.38 BTC [+] 342414;1381115830;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 20210 @ 0.00013367 = 2.7015 BTC [-] {5} 342415;1381115952;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 6155 @ 0.00013216 = 0.8134 BTC [-] {2} 342416;1381116379;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2265 @ 0.000131 = 0.2967 BTC [-] 342417;1381116501;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1915 @ 0.00083846 = 1.6057 BTC [-] 342418;1381116562;assbot;[BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 76 @ 0.00136 = 0.1034 BTC [+] 342419;1381116684;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1831 @ 0.0001307 = 0.2393 BTC [-] 342420;1381116928;assbot;[BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 148 @ 0.00123 = 0.182 BTC [-] 342421;1381117660;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.36010004 = 0.7202 BTC [+] {2} 342422;1381117904;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 1.374999 = 13.75 BTC [-] {2} 342423;1381117965;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 1.3985 = 13.985 BTC [+] {2} 342424;1381117966;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.0008323 = 4.9938 BTC [-] 342425;1381118575;assbot;[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 12 @ 0.04149 = 0.4979 BTC [+] 342426;1381119124;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 19841 @ 0.0001403 = 2.7837 BTC [+] 342427;1381119125;dub;;;isitdown bitcointalk.org 342428;1381119126;gribble;bitcointalk.org is up 342429;1381119132;dub;boo 342430;1381119185;assbot;[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 26 @ 0.009001 = 0.234 BTC [-] 342431;1381120161;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.0008323 = 2.5801 BTC [-] 342432;1381120405;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.45719999 = 14.572 BTC [+] {4} 342433;1381120710;assbot;[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 2 @ 0.135 = 0.27 BTC [+] 342434;1381120893;assbot;[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 5 @ 0.034 = 0.17 BTC [+] 342435;1381120954;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.261 BTC [-] 342436;1381120954;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1000 @ 0.0001402 = 0.1402 BTC [-] 342437;1381121259;assbot;[BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 3000 @ 0.00121905 = 3.6572 BTC [-] {4} 342438;1381121320;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 3066 @ 0.00014799 = 0.4537 BTC [+] {2} 342439;1381121564;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.44 BTC [+] 342440;1381122174;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 17000 @ 0.00017053 = 2.899 BTC [+] {5} 342441;1381122357;assbot;[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 8 @ 0.12 = 0.96 BTC [+] 342442;1381122540;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 14 @ 0.01375 = 0.1925 BTC [+] 342443;1381123272;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2000 @ 0.0001408 = 0.2816 BTC [-] 342444;1381123272;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 1.4 BTC [+] 342445;1381123408;mircea_popescu;ahhh, good morning boys and girls. 342446;1381123666;VanCleef;ITS BACK MP ITS BACK, thank christ 342447;1381123680;mircea_popescu;what is ? 342448;1381123689;VanCleef;bitcointalk 342449;1381123823;mircea_popescu;o hey. 342450;1381123882;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1082 @ 0.01419516 = 15.3592 BTC [+] {10} 342451;1381124004;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 1.4399875 = 11.5199 BTC [+] {2} 342452;1381124417;thestringpuller;lol good morning 342453;1381124492;assbot;[BTCTC] [B] [CIPHERMINE.B1] 16 @ 0.00812487 = 0.13 BTC [-] {2} 342454;1381124492;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12885 @ 0.00083583 = 10.7697 BTC [+] 342455;1381124698;Diablo-D3;holy shit 342456;1381124701;Diablo-D3;bitcointalk is back 342457;1381124905;Apocalyptic;yup 342458;1381125224;assbot;[BTCTC] [CIPHERMINE-PT] 70 @ 0.03 = 2.1 BTC [-] 342459;1381125397;VanCleef;and asicminer tanks haha 342460;1381125528;Diablo-D3;no 342461;1381125532;Diablo-D3;asicminer is heavy weapons guy 342462;1381125551;Diablo-D3; WHO TOUCH SASHA 342463;1381125623;thestringpuller;Diablo-D3 haven't seen you in awhile 342464;1381125636;Diablo-D3;but... Ive been here! the whole time! 342465;1381125651;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 3514 @ 0.0001418 = 0.4983 BTC [+] 342466;1381125684;thestringpuller;they see me lurkin' 342467;1381125686;thestringpuller;they hatin' 342468;1381125742;thestringpuller;where has bugpowder been 342469;1381125747;thestringpuller;;;seen Bugpowder 342470;1381125747;gribble;Bugpowder was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 days, 12 hours, 7 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: So the mechs thing was a hoax or waht? 342471;1381125758;thestringpuller;oh wow he just kinda sneaks in 342472;1381126599;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/mpex-breach-post-mortem/ 342473;1381126600;ozbot;MPEx breach - post mortem pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 342474;1381126749;assbot;[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 54 @ 0.03379054 = 1.8247 BTC [-] {9} 342475;1381127542;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00083923 = 1.091 BTC [+] 342476;1381127847;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 69 @ 0.0145 = 1.0005 BTC [+] {3} 342477;1381128030;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 365 @ 0.00083847 = 0.306 BTC [-] 342478;1381128030;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.PURCHASE] 31 @ 0.006211 = 0.1925 BTC [-] 342479;1381128586;jurov;mornin 342480;1381128623;jurov;http://www.coindesk.com/lamassu-ships-first-bitcoin-atm/ we have fun here in bratislava guessing who ordered it 342481;1381128652;jurov;cuz nobody is admiting it 342482;1381128656;jurov;*admitting 342483;1381128762;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8741 @ 0.00083213 = 7.2736 BTC [-] {2} 342484;1381128784;Apocalyptic;morning 342485;1381129372;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 16 @ 0.0145 = 0.232 BTC [+] 342486;1381129494;mircea_popescu;jurov o hey, there was a bet to that effect too 342487;1381129523;mircea_popescu;http://bitbet.us/bet/358/bitcoin-atm-will-have-at-least-one-atm/ 342488;1381129527;ozbot;BitBet - Bitcoin ATM will have at least one ATM unit up and running by the end of September 2013 342489;1381129527;mircea_popescu;aww no, there WAS. 342490;1381129554;jurov;bitbet time runs too fast 342491;1381129682;mircea_popescu;ya srsly. 342492;1381129697;mircea_popescu;it's like... two weeks normal time turn into 18 months of bitbet time. 342493;1381129700;mircea_popescu;it's a total timescam. 342494;1381130897;mod6;benkay_: Ahh, I've read more now on the urbit. I see what you mean by the 9-times thing as temporary. And after reading Datskovskiy's comments it's interesting that it was put in to begin with. 342495;1381130933;mod6;has anyone had trouble with the urbit terminal being like really slow? 342496;1381131014;mod6;I rebuild my sub just a bit ago because of this (http://www.urbit.org/2013/10/06/nicu.html), seems to be a bit more responsive.. but not what i would expect. 342497;1381131030;mod6;(was worse before the update it seems to me... but still laaags a bit.) 342498;1381131320;jurov;should be compiled with -O99 -funroll-all-loops 342499;1381132213;mircea_popescu;mod6 well when the whole planet is one computer... 342500;1381132233;mircea_popescu;probably some dolphin somewhere upset the flow of chi 342501;1381132259;mircea_popescu;(TLDR: to keep using Urbit, delete all your pre-10/6 data, git pull the source again, make clean, make, and start over. Your destroyers and tickets will keep working. No, this will not keep happening, though it may happen once or twice again.) << preserved for futurosity. 342502;1381132306;mod6;yeah, that was pretty interesting. like the first day I look into it, i have to blow everything away and start over. 342503;1381132342;mircea_popescu;well at least 11k people have watching and thus therefore everyone knows the guy's name and admires his work or how did it go. 342504;1381132358;mircea_popescu;but anyway ; satoshi forked btc too. it happens 342505;1381132390;mod6;jurov: you trollin'? 342506;1381132453;mod6;mircea_popescu: yeah, i recloned the repos and rebuilt. works fine. it's early in the project so, yeah shit happens. 342507;1381132536;mircea_popescu;mod6 in other news, http://trilema.com/2013/so-this-urbit-thing/#comment-95441 haskelites hate it. 342508;1381132619;mod6;jurov: -funroll-all-loops 342509;1381132620;mod6;Perform the optimization of loop unrolling. This is done for all loops and usually makes programs run more slowly. `-funroll-all-loops' implies `-fstrength-reduce' as well as `-frerun-cse-after-loop'. 342510;1381132632;mod6;so yah, 9/10 342511;1381132634;mod6;:P 342512;1381132759;jurov;mod6 yeah trolling... couldn't resist as long-time gentoo user :) 342513;1381132861;jurov;au! don't tell me you *did* recompile it? 342514;1381132864;mircea_popescu;violence is not the loop. 342515;1381132883;mod6;yeah, it seems that this guy Curtis Yarvin kinda goes against the grain with this one. im not a haskell guy or what not, so I'm not real sure what to think just yet. 342516;1381132915;mod6;haha, yeah. 342517;1381132927;mod6;im a dumbass for listening to you 342518;1381132945;mircea_popescu;well i guess i get to use kako's bash for the first time ever. 342519;1381132952;mod6;i tried to find a solution to this problem on the fuckin google groups thing and there was a thread about it. 342520;1381132962;mod6;but it wasn't helpful what-so-ever. 342521;1381132966;mod6;maybe its just a pile of shit 342522;1381132977;mod6;im not sure what to think about this thing yet. 342523;1381133032;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.00126896 = 0.1269 BTC [+] {2} 342524;1381133062;mircea_popescu;me either. 342525;1381133069;mircea_popescu;and i don't even know cs. 342526;1381133087;mod6;well, either do i. i was just trolled by jurov. 342527;1381133124;mod6;im gonna quit this shit and go work at walmart selling plants. 342528;1381133146;mircea_popescu;you could put on a bikini, place yourself in a pot and sell yourself as a bikini clad potted plant. 342529;1381133215;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 347 @ 0.0145 = 5.0315 BTC [+] 342530;1381133224;mod6;haha. i'll even do a dance move for a quick .01 BTC 342531;1381133268;mod6;aight, now that i've got this thing back to non-suck mode... 342532;1381133276;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.0146 = 0.292 BTC [+] {2} 342533;1381133299;mircea_popescu;~tasfyn-partyv/try=> :reset 342534;1381133299;mircea_popescu;This will replace all the Arvo code, including Hoon in Hoon itself, and keep your data intact - even running processes. 342535;1381133302;mircea_popescu;this later part is good. 342536;1381133337;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 17 @ 0.01481954 = 0.2519 BTC [+] {4} 342537;1381133347;mod6;yeah, thats pretty awesome. 342538;1381133478;mircea_popescu;when was the last time, say, a Google app lost your data? 342539;1381133480;mircea_popescu;bwaghahaha. 342540;1381133483;mircea_popescu;remember mybitcoin ? 342541;1381133498;mircea_popescu;or no wait. what was it, that polish exchange that mtgox boight 342542;1381133515;mircea_popescu;because the guy had all the btc in the cloud and lost the instance. 342543;1381133521;mod6;yeah haha. 342544;1381133540;mod6;i wanna say that happened a few times even. 342545;1381133545;mod6;*poof* 342546;1381133612;jurov;but afaik urbit has everything versioned 342547;1381133625;mircea_popescu;" hi all." < i said something on #urbit. 342548;1381133635;mircea_popescu;which from what i gather is NOT run on urbit ? 342549;1381133679;mod6;haha, nice. i just joined in over there a few mins ago too. 342550;1381133703;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 0.1331 BTC [+] 342551;1381133717;mod6;CY said he didn't want to do an irc channel because urbit can be sort of like IRC in and of itself. but in the mean time he'll set one up until it gets further along. 342552;1381133754;mod6;i figure, maybe they can help my urbit n00bness until i get my sealegs. 342553;1381133826;jurov;these ships...it's a PONZI 342554;1381134006;mod6;are you getting good with hoon, jurov 342555;1381134007;mod6;? 342556;1381134062;jurov;no only read these docs and filed it for later 342557;1381134087;mod6;ahh. im trying to familiarize myself with these 'runes' 342558;1381134117;mod6;its not as bad as brainfuck, but not by much 342559;1381134130;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00083632 = 6.9415 BTC [+] {2} 342560;1381134207;jurov;decided to do some overdue upgrades instead...got unexpected 50% cpu usage decrease :) 342561;1381134247;mod6;nice 342562;1381134252;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 800 @ 0.00015 = 0.12 BTC [-] {3} 342563;1381134474;pankkake;http://i.imgur.com/uy6icfj.png 342564;1381134517;mircea_popescu;lol 342565;1381134519;mircea_popescu;seems about right 342566;1381134860;mod6;i haven't used an LSB system since i worked on porting fbsd to sparc64 342567;1381134893;mircea_popescu;i thought they're unconstitutional anyway 342568;1381135167;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6250 @ 0.00083923 = 5.2452 BTC [+] 342569;1381135433;mod6;heheh, well since x86 intel, its not been nearly as widely used. i think that network addresses are all passed in lsb though, and then they added htonl/s ntohl/s for translation, etc. 342570;1381135472;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 23200 @ 0.00017773 = 4.1233 BTC [+] {5} 342571;1381135533;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.01375 = 0.275 BTC [-] 342572;1381135655;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12286 @ 0.00083404 = 10.247 BTC [-] {2} 342573;1381137363;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 10 @ 0.01375 = 0.1375 BTC [-] 342574;1381137709;bitesak;;;ticker 342575;1381137709;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 135.75000, Best ask: 136.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.25000, Last trade: 135.75000, 24 hour volume: 6768.60069259, 24 hour low: 134.10000, 24 hour high: 139.00000, 24 hour vwap: 136.55720 342576;1381137734;bitesak;there is a new listing on mpex ! whoooa 342577;1381138025;mod6;cool, there is a hoon.vim 342578;1381138309;bitesak;hoonhoon.vim? 342579;1381138429;mircea_popescu;wait, does this mean a vim implementation ? 342580;1381138617;mod6;haha, no i wish. 342581;1381138637;mod6;just a vim script for unix so the syntax can be color-highlighted. didn't mean to get yall excited. 342582;1381138658;mod6;there is another that seems to try to translate scribbles to runes, but I haven't gotten it to work on my vim yet. 342583;1381138888;assbot;[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 29 @ 0.0415331 = 1.2045 BTC [+] {3} 342584;1381139315;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9750 @ 0.00083877 = 8.178 BTC [+] {2} 342585;1381139376;assbot;[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 7 @ 0.04 = 0.28 BTC [-] 342586;1381139904;mircea_popescu;i suspect this is currently the largest productivity sink in it. 342587;1381139934;mircea_popescu;also, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spellcasting_101:_Sorcerers_Get_All_The_Girls 342588;1381139959;ystarnaud;lol 342589;1381140169;assbot;[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 4 @ 0.088 = 0.352 BTC [-] 342590;1381140291;assbot;[BTCTC] [B] [CIPHERMINE.B1] 100 @ 0.008 = 0.8 BTC [-] 342591;1381140413;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4337 @ 0.0008323 = 3.6097 BTC [-] {2} 342592;1381140779;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 0.1331 BTC [+] 342593;1381141145;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 38 @ 0.00295875 = 0.1124 BTC [+] {2} 342594;1381142545;mod6;this urbit thing is wacky 342595;1381142576;mircea_popescu;http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/06/argentina-president-cristina-fernandez-brain-haematoma 342596;1381142576;ozbot;Argentina's president Cristina Fernandez suffers brain haematoma | World news | theguardian.com 342597;1381142731;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [COG.F2] 1 @ 2.39 BTC [+] 342598;1381142769;mircea_popescu;"Leather Goddesses of Phobos 2: Gas Pump Girls Meet the Pulsating Inconvenience from Planet X!" 342599;1381142914;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [COG.F2] 1 @ 2.8 BTC [+] 342600;1381143058;mod6;its like i wanna go down this rabbit hole and figure this thing out, but I don't think im smart enough or something. 342601;1381143234;mod6;the guy says, "urbit will always run on top of unix." but d00d also wants this to surpass *nix at some point... 342602;1381143264;mircea_popescu;mod6 http://trilema.com/2013/so-this-urbit-thing/#comment-95448 << average people have trouble FINDING IT 342603;1381143269;mircea_popescu;i think you may be smart enough. 342604;1381143289;mod6;(Chapter 1.7): If a real OS runs on the bare hardware and is preemptive, it’s clear that Arvo is not a real OS and will never be one. It will always run on Unix. Of course in a sense it comes to bury Unix, but also to praise it - to imitate it - and even to surpass it. 342605;1381143301;mod6;Unix today is ancient, bloated and debilitated, but its historic greatness is eternal. Comparing Unix to other OSes of its time is comparing Shakespeare to other playwrights of his time. 342606;1381143305;mod6;But, ya know, times change. How do we surpass Unix? We’ve got two words for you - typed pipes! 342607;1381143347;mircea_popescu;actually marlowe was not that bad 342608;1381143354;mircea_popescu;this is an argument to ignorance 342609;1381143363;mod6;So far, and i've only spent a few hours on it, but I'm so hoplessly lost on hoon, that i don't see how this could be more useful than unix at this point. 342610;1381143389;mod6;i mean, it needs unix to run to begin with... so wtf 342611;1381143454;mod6;at somepoint it'll have to run out of a chip directly or some other interpreter or interface to wholly replace unix 342612;1381143524;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 23 @ 1.43852172 = 33.086 BTC [-] {5} 342613;1381143529;mod6;I still think its pretty cool, and I'm probably just derp. But I'm not convinced that I'm not being trolled somehow. 342614;1381143531;mircea_popescu;if indeed the specification is as short as presented, it's prolly trivial to build asics that execute it natively 342615;1381143585;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8350 @ 0.00084024 = 7.016 BTC [+] {2} 342616;1381143608;mod6;yeah, the nock is like, very short. and the hoon compiler itself is really small. 342617;1381143708;mod6;this page is pretty lulzy, whomever wrote it was just guessing at a lot of the stuff: https://github.com/urbit/urbit/wiki/Decoding-Hoon 342618;1381143829;assbot;[BTCTC] [B] [CIPHERMINE.B1] 56 @ 0.008 = 0.448 BTC [-] 342619;1381143890;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [COG.F] 1 @ 1.99 BTC [+] 342620;1381144012;assbot;[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 15 @ 0.04 = 0.6 BTC [-] 342621;1381144106;mod6;anyway, i dunno, i still think its pretty neat if its not an epic troll. i submitted for my destroyers, so we'll see where that goes. 342622;1381144121;mircea_popescu;it's still neat even if it is an epic troll. 342623;1381144126;mircea_popescu;what difference does that make ? 342624;1381144134;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 15894 @ 0.0001812 = 2.88 BTC [+] {4} 342625;1381144195;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 6599 @ 0.00020115 = 1.3274 BTC [+] {3} 342626;1381144230;mod6;haha, none i guess. i just hope that even if it is a troll, it can be made into something useful. 342627;1381144256;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 900 @ 0.000226 = 0.2034 BTC [+] {2} 342628;1381144276;mircea_popescu;now that all depends i ghuess :p 342629;1381144313;KRS1;good morning from the states. 342630;1381144378;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.445 = 10.115 BTC [+] 342631;1381144564;mircea_popescu;ello 342632;1381144635;mod6;(What happens if there’s an error? Like, a type error? Duh, the compiler crashes. Hey, at Yale, what do they do if there’s an error? I don’t know but it’s probably some kind of fancy exception thing. 342633;1381144649;mod6;haha 342634;1381144744;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 850 @ 0.000226 = 0.1921 BTC [+] 342635;1381144757;mircea_popescu;amazing compiler. 342636;1381144757;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 342637;1381144768;mod6;:) 342638;1381144935;mod6;it'd be cool to see if all of these destroyers can easily talk to one-another from distributed hosts worldwide. then maybe it'd be neat to try to develop a p2p or distributed encrypted irc network. 342639;1381144984;mod6;either public or private nodes. 342640;1381145017;daybyter;make smartphone nodes. They are harder to block... 342641;1381145028;mod6;the syntax is so gnarly that it seems like it would be hard to develop, but i suppose that one you get the hang of it... 342642;1381145060;mod6;*once 342643;1381145097;mircea_popescu;that funny moment when you realise urbit is discussed in 500 lines on #bitcoin-assets and in 5 lines on #urbit 342644;1381145106;mod6;lol 342645;1381145110;mod6;my bad 342646;1381145313;mod6;daybyter: its too bad really, these devices are like the NSA data-collector nodes. i don't even trust the snapdragon chips in 'em any more really. 342647;1381145331;mircea_popescu;mod6 wasn't implying it's a bad thing, on the contrary 342648;1381145340;mircea_popescu;gotta discuss where the brainz are. 342649;1381145348;mod6;ah, ok :) 342650;1381145360;daybyter;but it's easier to shutdown servers than mobiles... 342651;1381145368;mircea_popescu;is it ? 342652;1381145423;blastbob;depends.. 342653;1381145477;mod6;for instance, in current form, urbit does key-gen right off the start. i'd hesitate to launch an instance with that software thats native (unless rooted and running something like cyanogen -- even then do we trust that either?) 342654;1381145500;mod6;and besides do we trust chip makers any more either? 342655;1381145611;mircea_popescu;mod6 im listening to this and pasting in the nsa "to do" list :D 342656;1381145623;mod6;haha 342657;1381145714;mod6;i suppose that something like urbit could actually live inside of other software eventually as some sort of embedded system. or if it ever took the leap to native hardware, it could run on some sort of FPGA or pre-set asic chip. 342658;1381145749;mod6;someone needs to write a network stack for it. 342659;1381145765;mod6;lol that'll be ishy in hoon! 342660;1381145814;ThickAsThieves;kncsplosion http://imgur.com/2UZuUzH 342661;1381145882;mod6;oo started a fire in her panties huh? 342662;1381145950;mircea_popescu;what burned there, the controller or what ? 342663;1381145990;ThickAsThieves;looks like a small transformer or something 342664;1381145997;ThickAsThieves;but i have no idea 342665;1381146028;ThickAsThieves;two mor epics http://imgur.com/a/hyA3a 342666;1381146085;KRS1;lol nice whats that a transistor 342667;1381146085;VanCleef;ThickAsThieves ? 342668;1381146100;blastbob;they say its 2-3 boards this has happend to, but not confirmed 342669;1381146110;ThickAsThieves;i only have intro knowledge of these things, but i'd guess a small transformer 342670;1381146117;KRS1;ya 342671;1381146122;mircea_popescu;A year after the 1994 Digital Telephony bill passed, the FBI disclosed plans to require the phone companies to build into their infrastructure the capacity to simultaneously wiretap one percent of all phone calls in all major US cities. This would represent more than a thousandfold increase over previous levels in the number of phones that could be wiretapped. In previous years, there were only about 1000 court-ordered w 342672;1381146122;mircea_popescu;year, at the federal, state, and local levels combined. 342673;1381146126;mircea_popescu;https://www.philzimmermann.com/EN/testimony/index.html 342674;1381146127;ozbot;Phil Zimmermann's Senate Testimony 342675;1381146135;mircea_popescu;this shit's so much fun to read, 20 years later. 342676;1381146138;KRS1;nice skidmark 342677;1381146180;mod6;<3 Phil 342678;1381146182;mircea_popescu;thjat last thing is an exploded capacitor. 342679;1381146188;mircea_popescu;which really just means bad capacitor. 342680;1381146194;mircea_popescu;;;google capacitor disease 342681;1381146194;gribble;Capacitor plague - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; PSA: TiVo HD's Hit By Capacitor Plague! - DealDatabase Forum: ; How do you define capacitor in good condition - WikiAnswers: (1 more message) 342682;1381146224;ThickAsThieves;i've only ever seen cylindrical capacitors 342683;1381146228;ThickAsThieves;again i'm a noob 342684;1381146286;mod6;ya my guy says they are caps too 342685;1381146339;ThickAsThieves;i suppose it would be weird to have that many small transistors anyway 342686;1381146341;mod6;lol he says its 'bodged' 342687;1381146464;mod6;he says he could be wrong and they might be 'some kinda funky resistor' 342688;1381146473;mod6;*shrug* 342689;1381146484;thestringpuller;mod6 is here 342690;1381146487;thestringpuller;just as I have to leave 342691;1381146490;thestringpuller;I h8 you no 342692;1381146491;thestringpuller;w 342693;1381146493;thestringpuller;nao* 342694;1381146499;thestringpuller;I am revoking our frienship 342695;1381146500;thestringpuller;jkjk 342696;1381146501;KRS1;heh 342697;1381146514;mod6;HEH. been here all night talkin about urbit :] 342698;1381146531;thestringpuller;i been up all night trynna get ma money right 342699;1381146580;mircea_popescu;yeah what im getting as most likely story is that they bought as cheap parts as they could find, and ended up with a batch of shitty caps. 342700;1381146585;mircea_popescu;which you know... blow. 342701;1381146592;KRS1;stack the rest of the yams in my auntie's house..and then what! 342702;1381146635;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [BTC-GROWTH] 103 @ 0.0848997 = 8.7447 BTC [+] {2} 342703;1381146636;KRS1;peace out folks time to get fresh and jump into one of them cars 342704;1381146813;mod6;info on flaming board from my buddy: http://pastebin.com/AbAr6Mcv 342705;1381146837;KRS1;Check out my friend's hotrod caddilac..finally got a chance to see it in action last night. Its more or less a corvette in a suit and tie http://s540.beta.photobucket.com/user/LivernoisMotorsports/library/Pauls%20V 342706;1381147020;mod6;that one comes straight from GM 'eh? is that the 502? 342707;1381147367;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 14 @ 0.0136 = 0.1904 BTC [-] 342708;1381147489;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9350 @ 0.00084028 = 7.8566 BTC [+] 342709;1381147489;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 15905 @ 0.00015472 = 2.4608 BTC [-] {6} 342710;1381147499;KRS1;yeah 342711;1381147534;KRS1;we are a couple of long time gear heads I have a 1986 t-top mustang 5.0 drag car thats real fun dont get much chance to play with it though. 342712;1381147620;KRS1;thats not the 502 its a small block stroked to 400+ ci all fuel injected obviously 342713;1381147720;mod6;KRS1: ahh. ok. 342714;1381147855;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00083206 = 1.5809 BTC [-] 342715;1381148770;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 50000 @ 0.00015287 = 7.6435 BTC [-] {10} 342716;1381149075;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 44410 @ 0.00015008 = 6.6651 BTC [-] {7} 342717;1381149136;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 10000 @ 0.00015 = 1.5 BTC [-] 342718;1381149380;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 22 @ 1.36245454 = 29.974 BTC [-] {3} 342719;1381149441;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 17 @ 1.32882352 = 22.59 BTC [-] {4} 342720;1381149442;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 51 @ 0.0130049 = 0.6632 BTC [-] {3} 342721;1381149502;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 1.3218222 = 6.6091 BTC [-] {3} 342722;1381149503;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.3 = 6.5 BTC [-] 342723;1381149747;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2722 @ 0.0001502 = 0.4088 BTC [+] 342724;1381149929;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 500 @ 0.00026845 = 0.1342 BTC [-] 342725;1381150112;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2000 @ 0.0001502 = 0.3004 BTC [+] 342726;1381150783;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 10908 @ 0.00015009 = 1.6372 BTC [-] {2} 342727;1381152125;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 19603 @ 0.0001481 = 2.9032 BTC [-] 342728;1381152187;gecko_x2;btct down? 342729;1381152194;gecko_x2;forgot to check if i have any btc there :\ 342730;1381152202;gecko_x2;damnit 342731;1381152225;Rulother;It's down for me 342732;1381152229;ThickAsThieves;Hopefully not down for good yet 342733;1381152234;Rulother;^ 342734;1381152241;ThickAsThieves;I have fresh AM1 xfers to verify... 342735;1381152249;ThickAsThieves;he should lock all assets first 342736;1381152261;Rulother;http://www.isitdownrightnow.com/btct.co.html 342737;1381152262;ozbot;Btct.co - Is Btct Down Right Now? 342738;1381152308;assbot;[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 13 @ 0.033 = 0.429 BTC [-] 342739;1381152512;gecko_x2;hmm 342740;1381152722;mircea_popescu;wasn't it announced for today and everytjhing ? 342741;1381152771;ThickAsThieves;yes, but he had hinted that it would be late in the day, if I recall 342742;1381153379;turbo_ac100;gecko_x2, site seems up but API access doesn't work 342743;1381153404;turbo_ac100;litecoinglobal works though. 342744;1381153477;Rulother;so tat how many transfers are you working on? 342745;1381153551;ThickAsThieves;all in all i think it's nearly 2000 342746;1381153571;gecko_x2;hmm 342747;1381153575;gecko_x2;works through tor for me 342748;1381153582;gecko_x2;but not directly 342749;1381153613;ThickAsThieves;all are xfers other than TAT.AM are caught up and awaiting assistance from the exchange operators to render the shares 342750;1381153636;mircea_popescu;that sounds like quite the caseload there. 342751;1381153643;ThickAsThieves;Bitfunder could be a problem 342752;1381153666;ThickAsThieves;as manual rendering of shares would be insanely time-consuming 342753;1381153683;ThickAsThieves;since Ukyo has 2fa required on every xfer 342754;1381153816;Rulother;Gross 342755;1381153831;Rulother;Well I had my shit transfered to Havelock 342756;1381153955;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5354 @ 0.00083667 = 4.4795 BTC [+] 342757;1381154381;ThickAsThieves;http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/7/4811382/100-dollar-us-bill-goes-into-circulation-october-8 342758;1381154381;ozbot;Smarter $100 bill goes into circulation tomorrow | The Verge 342759;1381154570;ThickAsThieves;Burnside is selling the site software with a condition that whomever uses it must block US users. 342760;1381154577;ThickAsThieves;Can that even be enforced? 342761;1381154592;Rulother;Ciphermine wanted to buy it didn 342762;1381154598;Rulother;didn't they? * 342763;1381154601;ThickAsThieves;yeah 342764;1381154618;ThickAsThieves;i wouldnt use it in that case 342765;1381154620;kakobrekla;cipermine sold 5btw of shares to pay for her wedding 342766;1381154628;kakobrekla;btw = btc 342767;1381154638;ThickAsThieves;she was married at taco bell? 342768;1381154642;Rulother;lol 342769;1381154647;kakobrekla;how is she going to pay for btctc 342770;1381154660;kakobrekla;acting like she is capable of reglbseing it 342771;1381154702;ThickAsThieves;heh, btct.co won't load so I tried Tor, 342772;1381154704;ThickAsThieves;This Domain Name Has Expired 342773;1381154717;ThickAsThieves;maybe that's why he chose today 342774;1381154741;Rulother;lol works fine for me 342775;1381154754;ThickAsThieves;cached? 342776;1381154769;ThickAsThieves;i cant load it 342777;1381154774;ThickAsThieves;are you in the US? 342778;1381154774;Rulother;logged in and sold a share 342779;1381154775;Kleeck__;Mine is loading as well. 342780;1381154778;Kleeck__;Was down earlier. 342781;1381154783;Kleeck__;Not cached. 342782;1381154797;ThickAsThieves;lame 342783;1381154811;ThickAsThieves;are you in the US? 342784;1381154817;Kleeck__;I am. 342785;1381154820;ThickAsThieves;hrm 342786;1381154821;ThickAsThieves;wtf 342787;1381154853;ThickAsThieves;can you tell me the ip for the site? 342788;1381154870;jcpham;127.09.01 342789;1381154875;ThickAsThieves;hehe 342790;1381154880;jcpham;satoshi's IP 342791;1381154886;mircea_popescu;whoever made network connectors so that usb sticks fit neatly inside IS A FUCKING IDIOT 342792;1381154893;mircea_popescu;either that or she works for adobe. 342793;1381154904;jcpham;meliisa mayer 342794;1381154928;ThickAsThieves;marissa* 342795;1381154936;jcpham;that too 342796;1381154939;mircea_popescu;burn her anyway. 342797;1381154945;jcpham;clariisa tells all 342798;1381154960;mircea_popescu;http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18lij3zuxsp71png/original.png 342799;1381154990;jcpham;lsl! 342800;1381155025;ThickAsThieves;http://www.whatsmydns.net/#A/btct.co 342801;1381155030;ozbot;Global DNS Propagation Checker - What's My DNS? 342802;1381155047;ThickAsThieves;*something* is going on 342803;1381155076;kakobrekla;can you has state in you dns!? 342804;1381155163;ThickAsThieves;that's network propagation 342805;1381155172;ThickAsThieves;not dns of states 342806;1381155194;kakobrekla;no 342807;1381155202;kakobrekla;i mean your federal state in your dns server 342808;1381155249;ThickAsThieves;i assume those are cooperating providers that are just reporting what DNS they see for any given domain 342809;1381155267;ThickAsThieves;not sure it has anything to do with the DNS of the site 342810;1381155273;kakobrekla;nah they fiddle with them 342811;1381155290;kakobrekla;maybe not in btctc's case but otherwse 342812;1381155314;ThickAsThieves;btct is also using cloudflare, those two long addresses 342813;1381155358;ThickAsThieves;i have people transferring AM-PT shares to me which i can't verify... 342814;1381155408;Kleeck__;Well, maybe someone should've taken care of his share transfers BEFORE vacationing in Cyprus! ;P 342815;1381155480;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.47989999 BTC [+] 342816;1381155541;ThickAsThieves;your quip is inaccurate (and impossible) 342817;1381155547;ThickAsThieves;these are new xfers 342818;1381155563;ThickAsThieves;and migrating before I left would've been impossible time-wise 342819;1381155578;imsaguy;Kleeck__, he's online now, isn't he? 342820;1381155591;jcpham;i haerd burnside was playing a halloween prank and btct.cp isn't actually closing 342821;1381155615;ThickAsThieves;I heard the same thing like 30secs ago 342822;1381155625;jcpham;seems legit 342823;1381155628;bitesak;vacationing in Cyprus ? 342824;1381155634;ThickAsThieves;no 342825;1381155638;ThickAsThieves;businessing 342826;1381155642;kakobrekla;o, retard talk forum is down 342827;1381155644;kakobrekla;em 342828;1381155645;kakobrekla;back up 342829;1381155649;Kleeck__;I was joking, for the record. 342830;1381155655;kakobrekla;i know cause i lost the bet, dammit. 342831;1381155676;imsaguy;"now with improved security!" 342832;1381155682;kakobrekla;oh? 342833;1381155694;kakobrekla;lieak what 342834;1381155701;imsaguy;"We hash your passwords 100000 times" 342835;1381155701;jcpham;captchas 342836;1381155704;jcpham;everywhere 342837;1381155709;bitesak;I trust the businessing is with Bitcoins ? 342838;1381155715;ThickAsThieves;scammers extending there forum auctions :/ 342839;1381155771;jcpham;seems like dramatalk would hire smf dev 342840;1381155812;jcpham;is there a such thing as a simple machines dev 342841;1381155827;pankkake;simple minded dev? 342842;1381155907;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00285551 = 0.2856 BTC [-] {4} 342843;1381156070;Kleeck__;Btct.co is down for me now as well, ThickAsThieves 342844;1381156091;ThickAsThieves;I asked Burnside to remove you 342845;1381156312;imsaguy;Is there a bet for how long until the forum passwords are cracked? 342846;1381156509;mircea_popescu;imsaguy not afaik 342847;1381156517;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 15 @ 0.01359998 = 0.204 BTC [-] 342848;1381156597;Kleeck__;Last I heard the "sample list" was a verified fake. 342849;1381156615;mircea_popescu;<imsaguy> "We hash your passwords 100000 times" << this. 342850;1381156616;imsaguy;I'm well aware Kleeck__ 342851;1381156619;mircea_popescu;no salt, more hashing 342852;1381156635;ThickAsThieves;Havelock rocks. They built a special tool just for me to process migrations :) 342853;1381156649;imsaguy;Until they shut down too 342854;1381156651;imsaguy;<.< 342855;1381156700;Rulother;I do like Havelock 342856;1381156719;Rulother;What was the word from them regarding allowing new assets to come over 342857;1381156732;Kleeck__;I believe they said, "No." 342858;1381156743;ThickAsThieves;I don't know the official word, but I think they denied most, if not all 342859;1381156761;ThickAsThieves;I do hope they at least accommodate Deprived 342860;1381157026;gecko_x2;got my remaining btc transferred off btct in the last min.. over TOR 342861;1381157043;Kleeck__;Why are you using TOR? 342862;1381157057;gecko_x2;btct was down over regular net 342863;1381157061;gecko_x2;for me 342864;1381157066;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 1.28877777 = 11.599 BTC [-] {3} 342865;1381157067;gecko_x2;others are also having issues 342866;1381157143;mircea_popescu;weird. 342867;1381157249;gecko_x2;so sad 342868;1381157271;gecko_x2;there prolly won't be another exchange unless it's distributed / p2p 342869;1381157285;gecko_x2;maybe coloured coins 342870;1381157318;gecko_x2;or 342871;1381157334;gecko_x2;maybe the world will finally rush back to MPEX :) 342872;1381157373;mircea_popescu;herp. 342873;1381157385;mircea_popescu;you know i can always tell the people who have an account from those who don't, 342874;1381157391;mircea_popescu;cause the former know it's a small x. 342875;1381157437;ThickAsThieves;i do prefer all caps, but ever since seeing you correct someone i use x, in compliance 342876;1381157452;ThickAsThieves;although i do have an accocunt 342877;1381157458;ThickAsThieves;acoconut 342878;1381157461;ThickAsThieves;:) 342879;1381157475;gecko_x2;a cocunt? 342880;1381157483;gecko_x2;erm 342881;1381157490;gecko_x2;anywais 342882;1381157510;gecko_x2;everyone is now waiting for the mad rush into actm :p 342883;1381157518;ThickAsThieves;? 342884;1381157528;ThickAsThieves;why would anyone rush to actm 342885;1381157538;ThickAsThieves;it's like boring by now, no? 342886;1381157544;gecko_x2;well 342887;1381157561;mircea_popescu;lol i has a coconut and banging it together! 342888;1381157567;gecko_x2;compared to LC it's still amazing company! 342889;1381157567;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 342890;1381157583;mircea_popescu;no. 0 compared to 0 is actually still 0. 342891;1381157590;ThickAsThieves;a rose by any other name 342892;1381157602;gecko_x2;it's going to nine thousand! 342893;1381157656;imsaguy;at least 9001 342894;1381157752;nubbins`;ISO 9001 certified? 342895;1381157887;gecko_x2;so what are we gonna do in here? 342896;1381157888;gecko_x2;:p 342897;1381157894;nubbins`;mircea_popescu: whoever made network connectors so that usb sticks fit neatly inside IS A FUCKING IDIOT 342898;1381157895;nubbins`;lel 342899;1381157907;nubbins`;cue every single time i wonder why my device isn't recognized 342900;1381157920;nubbins`;"oh, wait" 342901;1381157932;mircea_popescu;ikr ? 342902;1381157945;gecko_x2;they could have designed the fuckers to work regardless of which way is up 342903;1381157962;mircea_popescu;that goes against family values. 342904;1381157976;nubbins`;i don't think a usb drive will work in your ethernet port in ANY orientation 342905;1381157992;nubbins`;straight or otherwise 342906;1381158046;gecko_x2;point is there is no reason to restrict which way a usb connector is plugged in 342907;1381158070;pankkake;but that's the other way around, network port predates usb port 342908;1381158074;gecko_x2;now roughly 50% of plug attempts fail 342909;1381158085;gecko_x2;or according to murphy, atleast 51% 342910;1381158104;gecko_x2;i'm not talking about ethernet ports 342911;1381158109;gecko_x2;usb ports 342912;1381158116;gecko_x2;and how the USB standard sux 342913;1381158125;pankkake;yes, usb ports are also bad that way 342914;1381158137;pankkake;I wonder how they managed to fail that much 342915;1381158146;nubbins`;design by committee 342916;1381158150;nubbins`;it was destined to fail 342917;1381158161;gecko_x2;there is already a much better working solution 342918;1381158168;gecko_x2;been around since the 70's 342919;1381158171;nubbins`;thunderbolt? ;p 342920;1381158174;nubbins`;o 342921;1381158180;gecko_x2;3.5mm DIN plugs 342922;1381158189;nubbins`;DIN for the WIN! 342923;1381158193;gecko_x2;or the standard headphone plug 342924;1381158200;gecko_x2;works every time 342925;1381158202;ThickAsThieves;"hack" to get BTCT to load: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=125629.msg3293061#msg3293061 342926;1381158205;ThickAsThieves;works 342927;1381158206;nubbins`;standard headphone plug is a very poot design 342928;1381158208;nubbins`;1/8" 342929;1381158212;nubbins`;they break so easily 342930;1381158215;nubbins`;poot? 342931;1381158219;gecko_x2;nah 342932;1381158226;ThickAsThieves;never broken a headphone jack in my life 342933;1381158226;nubbins`;yep 342934;1381158228;pankkake;the thing that usb provided aren't really hardware/connector related, but a very cheap protocol 342935;1381158229;gecko_x2;worked fine for me for decades 342936;1381158233;nubbins`;i break them regularly 342937;1381158247;gecko_x2;maybe you should work on your motor skills :)' 342938;1381158260;pankkake;I broke one or two portable players headphone jacks 342939;1381158264;nubbins`;altho to be fair i'm using heavy 1/8" to 1/4" cables for audio equipment that gets moved around a lot 342940;1381158274;pankkake;the 6.3mm ones are sexy 342941;1381158287;assbot;[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.043945 = 0.1758 BTC [+] {3} 342942;1381158287;nubbins`;but honestly SMD 1/8" jacks are usually very poorly supported on PCBs 342943;1381158292;nubbins`;it's no sweat to rip a trace off a board 342944;1381158318;ThickAsThieves;;;nethash 342945;1381158320;gribble;1525038.63397 342946;1381158324;ThickAsThieves;;;bcstats 342947;1381158324;saulimus;lol, btct domain expired but someone just bought some basic-mining 342948;1381158327;gribble;Current Blocks: 262247 | Current Difficulty: 1.8928124928103292E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 264095 | Next Difficulty In: 1848 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 6 hours, 26 minutes, and 20 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 217927576.821 | Estimated Percent Change: 15.13427 342949;1381158347;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 126 @ 0.00124793 = 0.1572 BTC [-] {3} 342950;1381158348;assbot;[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.04658 = 0.1863 BTC [+] 342951;1381158353;Jere_Jones;You can still get to btct if you add an entry in your hosts file. 342952;1381158372;Jere_Jones;141.101.113.21 is the ip address that I'm using and it seems to work well. 342953;1381158378;saulimus;ok, thanks 342954;1381158396;saulimus;hm, error 1003, Direct IP access not allowed 342955;1381158404;nubbins`;i will need a small rutabaga and some carrots 342956;1381158410;Jere_Jones;That's why you have to put it in your hosts file. 342957;1381158419;saulimus;strange how that counts 342958;1381158423;saulimus;ok. 342959;1381158451;mircea_popescu;weird. 342960;1381158458;ThickAsThieves;i have learned that the slim majority of btct shareholders can follow directions 342961;1381158472;Kleeck__;lol 342962;1381158486;Jere_Jones;ThickAsThieves: Did Danny confirm my angel shares of NEOBEE with you? 342963;1381158499;ThickAsThieves;i don't think so 342964;1381158510;ThickAsThieves;just have him email me 342965;1381158527;ThickAsThieves;i know he's been busy 342966;1381158534;Jere_Jones;I did, but he was in the airport when he responded to me. I'll wait until things calm down a little. 342967;1381158544;ThickAsThieves;he should be straight now 342968;1381158563;Jere_Jones;Then, to the email I go.... :) 342969;1381158580;saulimus;Jere_Jones, ok, works, thanks 342970;1381158604;nubbins`;interesting fact: four moose were introduced to the island on which i live in the early 1900s 342971;1381158619;nubbins`;today, there are over 150,000 moose, wandering all over the highways and killing people who hit them w/ cars 342972;1381158710;ThickAsThieves;the pitfalls of inbreeding 342973;1381158745;nubbins`;yeah 342974;1381158746;nubbins`;tasty though 342975;1381158752;nubbins`;lel, from wikipedia: "Moose scat is commonly found on trails. Some souvenir shops sell bags of it, sealed with shellac and labeled with humorous names." 342976;1381158780;nubbins`;author obv too stupid to realize that every souvenir shop in north america sells bags of chocolate-covered almonds as "____ poop" 342977;1381158808;nubbins`;and they're shiny because of confectioner's glaze, not shellac 342978;1381158810;nubbins`;lel 342979;1381158832;ThickAsThieves;from what i read, it sounds like they are using real poop 342980;1381158968;nubbins`;you're telling me that stores are representing animal feces as food? 342981;1381159125;ThickAsThieves;where does that text say to eat it? 342982;1381159132;ThickAsThieves;no one eats shellac 342983;1381159137;nubbins`;ಠ_ಠ 342984;1381159140;ThickAsThieves;unless by mistake on table fruit 342985;1381159152;nubbins`;maybe we're talking about different things 342986;1381159162;ThickAsThieves;"Moose scat is commonly found on trails. Some souvenir shops sell bags of it, sealed with shellac and labeled with humorous names." 342987;1381159165;nubbins`;but i've seen bags of "moose droppings", "elk droppings", etc 342988;1381159172;nubbins`;and they're invariably chocolate-covered almonds 342989;1381159185;ThickAsThieves;peanuts are a variable! 342990;1381159197;nubbins`;i know this because i love chocolate covered almonds, and dislike feces, and have eaten many bags of "moose droppings" 342991;1381159204;nubbins`;and none of them have been shellacked poo 342992;1381159235;ThickAsThieves;http://alaskanspecialties.com/article/moose-poop-souvenirs 342993;1381159235;ozbot;Moose Poop Souvenirs | Alaskan Specialties 342994;1381159236;ThickAsThieves;booya 342995;1381159248;nubbins`;http://www.eatonfarmcandies.com/files/image/new%20productimages/moose%20droppings.jpg 342996;1381159250;nubbins`;booya 342997;1381159256;ThickAsThieves;you didnt quote candy 342998;1381159281;nubbins`;http://la2toronto.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/377-canadian-moose-droppings.jpg 342999;1381159282;nubbins`;&c 343000;1381159283;gribble;Error: "c" is not a valid command. 343001;1381159295;nubbins`;hmm 343002;1381159315;nubbins`;if you can find me a bag of shellacked shit with a humorous name, i'll accept defeat 343003;1381159331;nubbins`;but i still hold that the author of that caption is just confused 343004;1381159350;nubbins`;https://www.google.ca/search?q=moose+droppings&es_sm=119&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=M9FSUpeoNYj-4AOh2IGACw&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1111&bih=780&dpr=1#es_sm=119&q=moose+droppings+chocolate&tbm=isch&imgdii=_ 343005;1381159373;ThickAsThieves;why call the author confused when he details a thing that exists? 343006;1381159407;ThickAsThieves;very confusing ;) 343007;1381159429;nubbins`;http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/students-tricked-into-eating-moose-poop-by-school-staff-1.1259954 343008;1381159431;ozbot;Students tricked into eating moose poop by school staff - Manitoba - CBC News 343009;1381159442;nubbins`;LEL 343010;1381159495;benkay_;good moooorning 343011;1381159496;ThickAsThieves;"Droppings stuck in girl's braces" 343012;1381159497;nubbins`;"Two Grade 8 teens from the school in Grand Marais, Man., were given the poop but told they were chocolate-covered almonds." 343013;1381159500;benkay_;urbit is the greatest time sink ever 343014;1381159501;ThickAsThieves;"Not a joke, anti-bullying expert says" 343015;1381159502;ThickAsThieves;lol 343016;1381159507;nubbins`;"An international anti-bullying expert is shocked by the incident." 343017;1381159517;nubbins`;if it's not a joke, why can't i stop laughing? 343018;1381159529;nubbins`;aaaaaah hahahahaha 343019;1381159545;ThickAsThieves;to be an anti-bullying exper, must youi get beat up a lot? 343020;1381159554;nubbins`;see, "moose dropping" chocolate is so common that these kids legitimately had no idea that it might actually be poop 343021;1381159557;nubbins`;lel x 1000 343022;1381159572;nubbins`;tat, i think it's a prerequisite 343023;1381159574;ThickAsThieves;what's this lel stuff? 343024;1381159579;ThickAsThieves;some 4channery i missed? 343025;1381159582;nubbins`;nah 343026;1381159592;nubbins`;i don't like using "lol" 343027;1381159602;ThickAsThieves;i used to be that way 343028;1381159604;nubbins`;but "hahahahaha" doesn't always work 343029;1381159605;ThickAsThieves;i gave up 343030;1381159618;nubbins`;so i figured saying "lel" would get the message across 343031;1381159626;ThickAsThieves;in a hipster way 343032;1381159629;nubbins`;and burn out some people in the process 343033;1381159638;nubbins`;hipster is an artificial construct 343034;1381159641;ThickAsThieves;you kids and your ideas 343035;1381159641;saulimus;ll 343036;1381159647;nubbins`;remember when we called them "metrosexuals"? 343037;1381159649;benkay_;nubbins`: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4X2AvfSTi6Q 343038;1381159663;ThickAsThieves;metrosexuals were something else 343039;1381159675;nubbins`;another word to hate on people with personal style 343040;1381159678;nubbins`;same thing 343041;1381159686;ThickAsThieves;americans trying to look european 343042;1381159694;ThickAsThieves;:) 343043;1381159708;pankkake;thin? 343044;1381159715;ThickAsThieves;now americans trying to look european are known as rappers 343045;1381159751;ThickAsThieves;everyone in Amsterdam was much better looking that in the US 343046;1381159754;ThickAsThieves;dressed well 343047;1381159757;ThickAsThieves;etc 343048;1381159769;ThickAsThieves;must be all the cycling 343049;1381159776;benkay_;all the not eating garbage 343050;1381159802;ThickAsThieves;mircea_popescu, i took a picture of all the bicycles for you but forgot to post it 343051;1381159810;nubbins`;all the everything 343052;1381159818;mircea_popescu;aww! 343053;1381159821;nubbins`;all the culture? 343054;1381159827;nubbins`;all the history 343055;1381159834;ThickAsThieves;then next day NY (i think) announced a plan to use ducts underground for trash 343056;1381159842;nubbins`;hahaha 343057;1381159856;ThickAsThieves;it's happening! 343058;1381159859;nubbins`;so basically just dump it in the sewers? 343059;1381159863;ThickAsThieves;no 343060;1381159865;nubbins`;"the water filters all this stuff out" 343061;1381159874;ThickAsThieves;mp says all transport and trash should route underground 343062;1381159890;nubbins`;good luck with that 343063;1381159895;ThickAsThieves;which isnt a bad idea 343064;1381159900;nubbins`;we can't even figure out underground electrical wires 343065;1381159909;ThickAsThieves;wireless trash! 343066;1381159955;nubbins`;you tend to stop seeing them after a while, but just take note of the massive amounts of wires strung all around the place the next time you're outside 343067;1381159957;nubbins`;it's retarded 343068;1381159975;mircea_popescu;nubbins` the dope dealers gotta strung the shoes somewhere... 343069;1381159987;nubbins`;they do headphones instead of shoes here 343070;1381159992;ThickAsThieves;the caption was sposed to be: mircea_popescu, what should i do? http://imgur.com/F6V77ER 343071;1381159994;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 16806 @ 0.00013533 = 2.2744 BTC [-] {10} 343072;1381160028;ThickAsThieves;shoulda brought a grenade 343073;1381160055;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1173 @ 0.00013 = 0.1525 BTC [-] 343074;1381160059;mircea_popescu;so what is this log, has nubbins` been scamming everyone with shis moose shit ipo ? 343075;1381160075;ThickAsThieves;weird, my camera makes square photos 343076;1381160075;nubbins`;dividends, &c 343077;1381160077;mircea_popescu;benkay_ wait till the strip poker hits! 343078;1381160114;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves burn them anyway. 343079;1381160116;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 45000 @ 0.00012429 = 5.5931 BTC [-] {7} 343080;1381160144;nubbins`;speaking of shellac, we had some tenants move out a couple months ago 343081;1381160155;nubbins`;such a stink of cat shit/piss that we had to use shellac-base paint on the walls 343082;1381160170;mircea_popescu;how do you know it was cat shit. 343083;1381160181;nubbins`;they left 3 full litter boxes 343084;1381160200;ThickAsThieves;and he is an expert on droppings 343085;1381160202;ThickAsThieves;obv 343086;1381160202;mircea_popescu;people with cat syndrome. 343087;1381160214;nubbins`;well, i like chocolate covered almonds and cats 343088;1381160215;nubbins`;:P 343089;1381160245;nubbins`;im actually gonna upload the pictures i took after they "moved out" 343090;1381160253;nubbins`;gimme a couple minutes 343091;1381160356;jurov;so i just found out some btct users used an address from online wallet that has no signature functions 343092;1381160380;nubbins`;bummer 343093;1381160386;jurov;there will be fun yet 343094;1381160391;jurov;first blood, then fun 343095;1381160458;mircea_popescu;so they get to pester the online wallet to implement signatures in order to get their w/e ? 343096;1381160474;ThickAsThieves;jurov you have like a small qty of holders no? 343097;1381160483;ThickAsThieves;you really need wallet sigs? 343098;1381160492;ThickAsThieves;arent you the only one that knows share counts? 343099;1381160500;ThickAsThieves;tell them to give that 343100;1381160509;ThickAsThieves;along with btct email and account name 343101;1381160512;ThickAsThieves;or such 343102;1381160521;jurov;yes not many but why not do things properly? https://coinbr.com/btct/idiff_1 343103;1381160551;ThickAsThieves;you just said why ;) 343104;1381160597;jurov;fortunately i can just pay out untransferred future contracts and be done with them 343105;1381160618;benkay_;mircea_popescu: after I write this Nock interpreter and then learn Hoon... 343106;1381160636;pankkake;http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/oct/07/fbi-bitcoin-silk-road-ross-ulbricht still a failure, why would they know he has those 343107;1381160636;ozbot;FBI struggles to seize 600,000 Bitcoins from alleged Silk Road founder | Technology | theguardian.c 343108;1381160646;ThickAsThieves;they dont know 343109;1381160666;ThickAsThieves;isnt that amount extrapolated from their guess of commissions on their guess of all sales to date? 343110;1381160679;jurov;what, it's 600k now? 343111;1381160688;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves yup. 343112;1381160688;pankkake;oh, maybe 343113;1381160701;mircea_popescu;jurov the point about how im lolling at them for not making any forfeitures this turn around burned. 343114;1381160705;mircea_popescu;so they're trying :D 343115;1381160743;ThickAsThieves;the article also notes how since the fbi has his wallet, the coins cant be spent 343116;1381160745;ThickAsThieves;lol 343117;1381160750;mircea_popescu;herp 343118;1381160751;mircea_popescu;lmao. 343119;1381160754;benkay_;yea superherp 343120;1381160762;mircea_popescu;the state is in for a rude awakening. 343121;1381160771;mircea_popescu;it will happen ion about one more week 343122;1381160773;jurov;i'm waiting out for revelation how much of these bitcoins they gave him 343123;1381160775;mircea_popescu;m,aybne two 343124;1381160785;mircea_popescu;at which point, watch the bitcoin foundation go in overdrive. 343125;1381160788;benkay_;mircea_popescu: you refer to the debt ceiling? 343126;1381160791;ThickAsThieves;i'm still hoping that Ross isnt even the guy' 343127;1381160796;ThickAsThieves;would be so fun 343128;1381160807;lewicki;If the FBI confiscated all copies of the private key, then maybe. 343129;1381160815;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves here's a simple plan : pay someone a little coin to be the fall guy. 343130;1381160823;mircea_popescu;they can't prosecute you for something they already convicted someone else for. 343131;1381160833;ThickAsThieves;i just find it hard to believe that DPR would be this sloppy 343132;1381160840;ThickAsThieves;he KNEW he would get arrested one day 343133;1381160848;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15037 @ 0.00084201 = 12.6613 BTC [+] {5} 343134;1381160848;ThickAsThieves;so he MUST have a plan 343135;1381160858;mircea_popescu;he didn't plan on tor being a surveillance tool. 343136;1381160859;lewicki;public defender count? 343137;1381160862;mircea_popescu;the rest is "parallel construction" 343138;1381160878;pankkake;mircea_popescu: that wasn't how he was arrested at all so… 343139;1381160887;jurov;ThickAsThieves: what should he do? lend them to theymos for greater drama? 343140;1381160895;ThickAsThieves;how did fbi get the server copy anyway? 343141;1381160898;pankkake;and why would criminals crime if they thought they couldn't get away with it? 343142;1381160912;pankkake;he used a vpn to connect to the server 343143;1381160919;pankkake;and they asked the vpn 343144;1381160987;ThickAsThieves;and why was he living in a $1000 apartment? 343145;1381161005;lewicki;Even if the FBI only found out where the coins were stored. Eventually those coins would have to be used somewhere that could be "backtraced". Those mixers are not infallible 343146;1381161052;pankkake;not everyone needs to live in a mansion with two pools 343147;1381161064;ThickAsThieves;an apartment tho? 343148;1381161067;mircea_popescu;lewicki yes, yes they are. 343149;1381161073;ThickAsThieves;like why live witha roommate 343150;1381161081;pankkake;yes, that is weird indeed 343151;1381161082;lewicki;at what point do you say, 20...30..80 million is enough 343152;1381161084;mircea_popescu;because no friends ? 343153;1381161096;ThickAsThieves;so hang out at starbucks 343154;1381161100;ThickAsThieves;i dunno 343155;1381161106;pankkake;when I'm a trillionnaire I'll still live in a small appartment, but with people? no way! 343156;1381161107;ThickAsThieves;doesnt make sense 343157;1381161128;ThickAsThieves;if you have that much money 343158;1381161135;ThickAsThieves;you leave the US too 343159;1381161144;mircea_popescu;he didnt have that much money. 343160;1381161152;mircea_popescu;he struggled for three weeks to move a kg of coke. 343161;1381161153;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 1.3072 = 7.8432 BTC [-] {3} 343162;1381161155;pankkake;he could simply like where he lives 343163;1381161158;mircea_popescu;this is the definition of small timer. 343164;1381161175;pankkake;indeed that thing is weird 343165;1381161192;pankkake;why would the megaboss of the internet mafia do that? 343166;1381161197;mircea_popescu;the average car salesman sells more worth of car a day. 343167;1381161219;mircea_popescu;likely for a better cut, too. 343168;1381161229;ThickAsThieves;there will def be more to thi story 343169;1381161248;pankkake;a drug dealer is usually more honest than a car salesman though 343170;1381161250;mircea_popescu;my bet is that as the feds get enough of being humiliated it quietly drops into oblivion. 343171;1381161277;benkay_;it's not unbelievable that the nerd running the SR show would know nothing about actually moving product 343172;1381161378;ThickAsThieves;wasnt really his job anyway 343173;1381161443;mircea_popescu;why did he get involved is what i want to know. 343174;1381161472;mircea_popescu;it's so stupid this shit. im torn as towhether to do a write-up of why it's stupid and in the process prove i understand the drug trade all too well or just stfu. 343175;1381161491;benkay_;oh please do 343176;1381161492;ThickAsThieves;probably just a whim, coder says oh i can make a thing! 343177;1381161497;ThickAsThieves;then makes it live 343178;1381161502;ThickAsThieves;and just kinda rolls with it 343179;1381161509;benkay_;then btctalk can add drug dealer to the list of epithets they spit 343180;1381161515;mircea_popescu;heh. 343181;1381161547;ThickAsThieves;isnt the story that there is an original and a 2nd owner? 343182;1381161555;pankkake;the issue is that he wasn't nerd enough. he made technical mistakes, and then wasn't paranoid enough, thought he has the street smarts or whatever 343183;1381161573;ThickAsThieves;i find that not believable 343184;1381161595;ThickAsThieves;technical mistakes sure, but not paranoid enough?! 343185;1381161620;ThickAsThieves;he aided in a drug supermarket 343186;1381161624;Apocalyptic;he posted under his real name... 343187;1381161625;ThickAsThieves;how could he not be paranoid 343188;1381161631;Apocalyptic;of course he wasn't paranoid enough 343189;1381161650;ThickAsThieves;allegedly 343190;1381161663;ThickAsThieves;maybe Ross is the original guy 343191;1381161672;ThickAsThieves;and realized quickly he was too deep 343192;1381161684;ThickAsThieves;and that he wasnt paranoid enough at the start 343193;1381161690;ThickAsThieves;so he sold it 343194;1381161697;ThickAsThieves;and now that guy is out there 343195;1381161724;ThickAsThieves;probly running BMR etc 343196;1381162068;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 1.40999999 = 2.82 BTC [+] 343197;1381162082;ThickAsThieves;http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-24426881 343198;1381162082;ozbot;BBC News - China tells US to avoid debt crisis for sake of global economy 343199;1381162114;ThickAsThieves;"We hope the United States fully understands the lessons of history," Mr Zhu said 343200;1381162129;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 1.41 BTC [+] 343201;1381162143;Rulother;hah 343202;1381162153;Rulother;China should know the US better by no 343203;1381162154;Rulother;now* 343204;1381162169;kakobrekla;China will grow larger. 343205;1381162255;jcpham;us fracks like crazy: http://blogs.marketwatch.com/energy-ticker/2013/10/04/move-over-russia-u-s-is-now-the-worlds-biggest-oil-gas-producer/ 343206;1381162357;jurov;Rulother and what can China do? covertyl assassinate few tea partiers? 343207;1381162360;kakobrekla;> http://youtu.be/UPH9iKpM-fk?t=6s 343208;1381162397;Rulother;If we were only so lucky 343209;1381163288;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 24 @ 1.41583331 = 33.98 BTC [+] {6} 343210;1381163471;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 0.12989999 BTC [-] 343211;1381163654;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 0.1299 BTC [+] 343212;1381163837;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.013632 = 0.3408 BTC [+] {2} 343213;1381164203;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00084306 = 6.1543 BTC [+] 343214;1381164569;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 8 @ 0.0137 = 0.1096 BTC [+] 343215;1381164752;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 8 @ 0.0137 = 0.1096 BTC [+] {2} 343216;1381165219;mircea_popescu;benkay_ http://trilema.com/2013/what-the-drug-trade-is-how-the-drug-trade-works-and-why-silk-road-didnt-work-and-didnt-matter/ 343217;1381165221;mircea_popescu;enjoy. 343218;1381165229;benkay_;oooh 343219;1381165265;ThickAsThieves;hmm google docs is not letting me paste into google a spreadsheet without installing google drive for chrome (i'm using opera) 343220;1381165275;ThickAsThieves;suddenly 343221;1381165293;benkay_;pallet ;) 343222;1381165405;mircea_popescu;pellet lol 343223;1381165409;mircea_popescu;pew pew 343224;1381165540;benkay_;waaat 343225;1381166190;ThickAsThieves;lol http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/7/4812630/fox-news-shepard-smith-news-deck 343226;1381166241;Kleeck__;wtf 343227;1381166251;ThickAsThieves;Honey I Shrunk Fox News 343228;1381166275;mircea_popescu;lol 343229;1381166277;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 60 @ 0.00375 = 0.225 BTC [-] 343230;1381166284;dexX7;lol 343231;1381166297;dexX7;reminds me of http://www.businessinsider.com/the-us-army-star-trek-command-center-2013-9 343232;1381166346;Kleeck__;Bigger screems means we're more relevant, right? RIGHT GUIZ?! 343233;1381166397;ThickAsThieves;now every foxnews viewer will be compelled to get a tablet 343234;1381166405;mircea_popescu;1 btc to the first person that hacks into their tablets and puts cp on. 343235;1381166454;mircea_popescu;resulting in all of fox news being put on the sex offender register 343236;1381166466;Duffer1;they'd blame obama 343237;1381166470;ThickAsThieves;bigger bounty deserved! 343238;1381166472;Duffer1;get off scot free 343239;1381166508;ThickAsThieves;I'll add 2btc, but not cp, I want mp on a horse 343240;1381166577;mircea_popescu;i think that horse was underage anyway. 343241;1381166885;chris_;you can settle for mp on a camel now 343242;1381167048;mircea_popescu;i dunno if i made camel pix 343243;1381167337;b0n1;is there any back and lay betting exchange for btc? 343244;1381167340;b0n1;like betfair 343245;1381167528;mircea_popescu;about a dozen people tried and failed. if you care to understand the reasons i can link you to a write-up. 343246;1381167558;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.01300059 = 1.3001 BTC [-] {5} 343247;1381167560;b0n1;yeah, would be nice 343248;1381167583;b0n1;is it the low volume problem on startup? 343249;1381167619;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 45 @ 0.013 = 0.585 BTC [-] {2} 343250;1381167641;mircea_popescu;nah 343251;1381167656;mircea_popescu;lemme see ehre 343252;1381167680;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 300 @ 0.01264222 = 3.7927 BTC [-] {10} 343253;1381167732;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/least-likely-to-succeed-character-the-upseller/ 343254;1381167734;ozbot;Least likely to succeed character : The upseller pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 343255;1381167736;mircea_popescu;2nd half is the meat of it. 343256;1381167960;b0n1;you mean the liquidity problem? 343257;1381167986;mircea_popescu;nope. 343258;1381168168;assbot;[BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 16 @ 0.0219375 = 0.351 BTC [+] {2} 343259;1381168367;jborkl;I stopped by and talked to Cointerra in person 343260;1381168379;mircea_popescu;o hey. what's he say ? 343261;1381168428;jborkl;There was 3 of them, I got to see renderings that are not published yet- talked for about 1.5 hours- I also told them the advantages of listing on MPEX 343262;1381168448;mircea_popescu;3 cointerras ?! how many drinks did you have ? :D 343263;1381168459;mircea_popescu;anyway, article incoming i trust ? 343264;1381168507;jborkl;yes and I have access to preferred pricing for interested parties 343265;1381168549;jborkl;I will put a article in a little while 343266;1381168554;mircea_popescu;lol you're a distributor nao ? 343267;1381168564;jborkl;no 343268;1381168572;dexX7;jborkl: where do you publish your article? 343269;1381168589;jborkl;bitcoinnews.com - I will put it up in a hour or so 343270;1381168599;dexX7;ty 343271;1381168640;jborkl;I asked them why they listed with Pico and not MPEX 343272;1381168691;mircea_popescu;what'd they say ? 343273;1381168745;jborkl;What they said made sense, for the US- Pico is a holding co and buys a block from them. You actually buy Pico holding and not Cointerra 343274;1381168768;dexX7;wait, the listing there is legit? 343275;1381168816;mircea_popescu;dexX7 im about as amazed myself. 343276;1381168824;pankkake;yeah https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=307042.0 343277;1381168835;pankkake;communication is terrible though 343278;1381168858;ThickAsThieves;ridiculous... 343279;1381168885;mircea_popescu;tapeout 28nm... so what's this, march ? 343280;1381168897;jborkl;The listing at Pico is Cointerra, I can tell you that 343281;1381168914;jborkl;I asked him point blank 343282;1381168924;ThickAsThieves;still ridic 343283;1381168954;jborkl;They say, shipping is December - Remember I am not promoting or pumping anything- just telling you what I went by and saw 343284;1381168968;ThickAsThieves;thats not why i'm saying it's ridic 343285;1381168981;pankkake;so do they really plan to mine too? 343286;1381169000;dexX7;well. i'm still not 100 % convinced. tytus is the one who created the listing, that's no new info, so i'm not surprised that he confirms the listing. 343287;1381169005;pankkake;because the pico guy said "maybe or maybe not" 343288;1381169011;mircea_popescu;well that's good, cause I can make a bet,. 343289;1381169018;jborkl;They said they will have a datacenter in Dallas, TX 343290;1381169031;mircea_popescu;o wait, they don't sell units ? 343291;1381169040;jborkl;yes they do 343292;1381169046;pankkake;they do, and their initial plan was to do only that 343293;1381169055;jborkl;they will have hosting (3rd party) and selling units 343294;1381169080;mircea_popescu;mkay. 343295;1381169114;jborkl;The units I saw (final design I think) has liquid cooling standard - has 2 900 w power supplies and draws at the wall approx 1300 343296;1381169116;ThickAsThieves;whats their customer protection plan? 343297;1381169124;jborkl;did not ask that 343298;1381169141;jborkl;I do not believe on protection plans excpt condoms 343299;1381169153;ThickAsThieves;it's not a matter of belief 343300;1381169176;jborkl;I did not ask that question 343301;1381169180;pankkake;https://cointerra.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/200046263-Price-Protection 343302;1381169181;ozbot;Price Protection – CoinTerra 343303;1381169186;jborkl;I asked almost everything else 343304;1381169226;ThickAsThieves;not the best plan :/ 343305;1381169244;jborkl;Chips are supposed to be from (700 grade a to 500 grade d) I assigned the a-d values myself 343306;1381169268;pankkake;but you can get a better deal, it seems: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67547.msg3226890#msg3226890 343307;1381169301;ThickAsThieves;lol that deal sucks too 343308;1381169310;ThickAsThieves;30% per month? 343309;1381169330;pankkake;oh, right, I confused thirty and thirteen 343310;1381169332;ThickAsThieves;"I can't wait to see where share price goes once we list on a new exchange, and as we get closer and closer to delivery" 343311;1381169342;jborkl;I was told the deal I could get, and I think I could do a little better even 343312;1381169387;ThickAsThieves;only one protection plan makes sense, discount = diff increase 343313;1381169405;ThickAsThieves;or hashpower 343314;1381169422;pankkake;bfl would be bankrupt! 343315;1381169438;ThickAsThieves;shouldnt they be? 343316;1381169450;Au-WireBeard;Im sure theyve drafted notice 343317;1381169461;pankkake;I'm not sure it would be better for customers - they would get nothing 343318;1381169469;jborkl;If they actually make this chip, BFL is screwed (like they were not before?) 343319;1381169498;ThickAsThieves;pankkake BFL customers are already in that spot no? 343320;1381169504;ThickAsThieves;many of them 343321;1381169525;ThickAsThieves;the point here isnt to drive the company into the ground 343322;1381169530;pankkake;yes, still half screwed is better than fully screwed? 343323;1381169537;ThickAsThieves;it's to force them to name a real release date 343324;1381169540;ThickAsThieves;and sell at a real price 343325;1381169561;pankkake;jborkl: well, they have preorders, so maybe only for new orders 343326;1381169571;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 25 @ 0.0041 = 0.1025 BTC [+] 343327;1381169601;pankkake;maybe customer protection should be provided by a third party 343328;1381169609;mircea_popescu;how do bfl customers have a prayer ? 343329;1381169618;mircea_popescu;they ordered when diff was <1% of current 343330;1381169621;ThickAsThieves;how would that work pankkake? 343331;1381169632;assbot;[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 111 @ 0.00154979 = 0.172 BTC [+] {3} 343332;1381169637;mircea_popescu;ya srsly. 343333;1381169658;jborkl;isnt that just mining diff futures? 343334;1381169678;pankkake;an insurance type of thing? 343335;1381169689;pankkake;probably, except not really tied to a hardware release 343336;1381169691;ThickAsThieves;doesnt work in this case 343337;1381169695;assbot;[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 40 @ 0.0499 = 1.996 BTC [+] 343338;1381169695;assbot;[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 19 @ 0.01349 = 0.2563 BTC [+] 343339;1381169704;ThickAsThieves;the problem being addresses is that these companies are putting all risks onto the customers 343340;1381169711;ThickAsThieves;addressed* 343341;1381169731;pankkake;what I have in mind is that the companies finance the thing, but it's a pool; that way customers can feel safe even if the companies go bankrupt 343342;1381169752;ThickAsThieves;and what of the insurance company? 343343;1381169764;ThickAsThieves;they only profit if things ship on time 343344;1381169773;ThickAsThieves;otherwise they die 343345;1381169790;ThickAsThieves;the equation must put risk on the manufacturer 343346;1381169808;pankkake;the manufacturer pays the insurer, and gets its money back if it ships on time? 343347;1381169810;ThickAsThieves;no escaping that 343348;1381169820;mircea_popescu;how;s the manufacturer paying the insurer, 343349;1381169821;kakobrekla;preorders allow for that risk to be mitigated 343350;1381169827;kakobrekla;people themself allow this to happen to themself 343351;1381169830;pankkake;yes, the how is an issue :) 343352;1381169830;mircea_popescu;wjhen 99% of cases manufacturer can't afford a 100 btc bitbet ? 343353;1381169843;mircea_popescu;that'd allow the customers to buy insurance, at a market-established fair premium 343354;1381169849;mircea_popescu;but... ask them about it. 343355;1381169870;pankkake;the bet is all-or-nothing though 343356;1381169874;dexX7;maybe you should work on a better promotion/presentation. it is indeed a good idea, but "wtf is bitbet, why is this relevant" 343357;1381169876;assbot;[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 452 @ 0.001589 = 0.7182 BTC [+] {2} 343358;1381169888;ThickAsThieves;it doesnt matter 343359;1381169907;ThickAsThieves;to participate is to put attention on the risk 343360;1381169914;ThickAsThieves;they dont want that 343361;1381169920;ThickAsThieves;since the risk is all yours 343362;1381169936;ThickAsThieves;100btc is nothing 343363;1381169959;ThickAsThieves;doesnt preclude customers from being ripped 343364;1381169971;lewicki;tat, eta on video of presentation? 343365;1381169990;ThickAsThieves;2 weeks 343366;1381170041;mircea_popescu;right-o. 343367;1381170058;pankkake;what can you do if your ETA is really two weeks? say 14 days? 343368;1381170064;pankkake;2.00001 week? 343369;1381170080;kakobrekla;just after soon enough 343370;1381170098;Au-WireBeard;336 hours from now 343371;1381170114;pankkake;2100 blocks! 343372;1381170160;pankkake;2016* 343373;1381170303;mircea_popescu;;;tslb 343374;1381170307;gribble;Time since last block: 3 minutes and 10 seconds 343375;1381170331;nubbins`;im gonna start using blocks as a measure of distance 343376;1381170338;nubbins`;"oh, that's only three blocks away" 343377;1381170350;mircea_popescu;so here we go : 343378;1381170350;mircea_popescu;http://bitbet.us/bet/550/cointerra-will-deliver-in-2013/ 343379;1381170352;nubbins`;but the joke will be on you! 343380;1381170361;ozbot;BitBet - Cointerra will deliver in 2013 343381;1381170386;pankkake;the good thing about that rising difficulty, is that now bitcoin = litecoin 343382;1381170518;ThickAsThieves;the only thing litecoin has left going for it is for a major exchange to support it 343383;1381170523;ThickAsThieves;otherwise it's usless 343384;1381170532;ThickAsThieves;it goes down when btc goes up 343385;1381170535;dexX7;http://bitbet.us/bet/528/activemining-will-be-profitable-for-most-investors/ ?? 343386;1381170536;ozbot;BitBet - ActiveMining will be profitable for most investors 343387;1381170538;ThickAsThieves;and down when btc goes down 343388;1381170542;dexX7;this bet is closed? 343389;1381170563;pankkake;there are some fiat exchanges supporting it. but it's just one step anyway, so why would it change that much? 343390;1381170570;dexX7;oh 343391;1381170570;dexX7;nvm 343392;1381170570;ThickAsThieves;"Should btct.co disappear before that date or should proof emerge of btct.co failure to pay any liquid and exigible debt to any investor this bet resolves as No." 343393;1381170572;dexX7;lol 343394;1381170573;dexX7;yes 343395;1381170586;pankkake;eh… that certainly wasn't my intent when creating the bet 343396;1381170598;pankkake;it was on BitFunder at the time, and still is 343397;1381170614;pankkake;and I didn't write that text 343398;1381170618;ThickAsThieves;answer will still be No 343399;1381170619;pankkake;now people are going to be angry at me 343400;1381170619;ThickAsThieves;dont worry 343401;1381170621;mircea_popescu;dexX7 well cause btctc crapped ouit 343402;1381170648;pankkake;still a very bad way to handle things 343403;1381170649;dexX7;yes, i was hasty 343404;1381170661;mircea_popescu;pankkake welcome to bitbet, a game of unpredictable consequences. 343405;1381170678;ThickAsThieves;let's just put that condition on all bets 343406;1381170692;pankkake;I regret promoting a bet I didn't specify fully then 343407;1381170701;mircea_popescu;i suppose it can be remade to reference bitfunder isntead 343408;1381170703;ThickAsThieves;Red Sox will win world series, this bet resolves as No if Bitfunder closes 343409;1381170708;mircea_popescu;lol 343410;1381170729;pankkake;and I'm unhappy about *winning*, let's be clear 343411;1381170738;mircea_popescu;moar like "red sox will win world series, this bet resolves as no if world series doesn't exist anymoar" 343412;1381170750;dexX7;then you should have read the bet more carefully? 343413;1381170767;mircea_popescu;ya next time don't win on bets you didn't read carefully. 343414;1381170776;pankkake;:D 343415;1381170785;pankkake;no but see, I wrote the bet, except the last part 343416;1381170786;ThickAsThieves;i thought the whole point of btc investing was to profit by mistake? 343417;1381170795;mircea_popescu;i guess so 343418;1381170801;ThickAsThieves;and that gambling = investing 343419;1381170806;mircea_popescu;so it's now 5.06 to 0.04 343420;1381170817;mircea_popescu;anyone got any confidence at all in cointerra delivering ? 343421;1381170829;ThickAsThieves;didnt CT already say delivery is in Jan? 343422;1381170848;mircea_popescu;<jborkl> They say, shipping is December - Remember I am not promoting or pumping anything- just telling you what I went by and saw 343423;1381170888;ThickAsThieves;http://cointerra.com/shop/ 343424;1381170890;pankkake;mircea_popescu: I think they will, but I'm to going vote No as an hedge 343425;1381170904;ThickAsThieves;their own site says Jan 343426;1381170909;BingoBoingo;pankkake: You don't vote on bets, you bet on them 343427;1381170933;dexX7;do you have orders on ct, pankkake? 343428;1381170938;pankkake;kinda 343429;1381170955;mircea_popescu;TerraMiner II 1TH/s, Networked ASIC Miner (Early January Batch) 343430;1381170963;mircea_popescu;this would imply there's an earlier teraminer i neh ? 343431;1381170974;pankkake;december batches are sold already, as I understand 343432;1381170981;dexX7;ah i see 343433;1381170985;dexX7;so there were dec orders? 343434;1381170999;mircea_popescu;apparently. 343435;1381171007;pankkake;http://cointerra.com/product/terraminer-iv-2ths/ 343436;1381171020;dexX7;according to their resume, they are the creme de la creme 343437;1381171046;ThickAsThieves;oh 343438;1381171048;ThickAsThieves;my bad 343439;1381171048;pankkake;yes. though it isn't everything. and it seems to be their *only* way of saying they're the best 343440;1381171084;dexX7;well, they are new and have no finished product yet 343441;1381171089;asciilifeform;funstuff: http://lasecwww.epfl.ch/keyboard/ 343442;1381171257;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform does it hold true for metal case ? 343443;1381171279;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.00084194 = 5.5568 BTC [-] {2} 343444;1381171288;asciilifeform;yes, unless the latter is 1) grounded 2) has no openings larger than the wavelength in question 343445;1381171310;asciilifeform;see: 'Faraday's cage.' 343446;1381171314;jborkl;yes, they said there were December orders 343447;1381171339;mircea_popescu;it would be solid, so no openings. 343448;1381171353;asciilifeform;solid + grounded works. 343449;1381171365;mircea_popescu;grounded is actually no good i suspect, 343450;1381171367;mircea_popescu;antenna effect 343451;1381171371;mircea_popescu;better to have it POWERED 343452;1381171401;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 4630 @ 0.00126881 = 5.8746 BTC [+] {2} 343453;1381171430;asciilifeform;power line becomes a potential antenna in that case 343454;1381171445;ThickAsThieves;battery 343455;1381171496;asciilifeform;ThickAsThieves: idea is that you want to disperse any excess charge on the case as quickly as possible. 343456;1381171503;mircea_popescu;or dilute it. 343457;1381171544;asciilifeform;it also depends if you're trying to merely keep RF in, or also out. 343458;1381171568;ThickAsThieves;so can kb be made with a "jammer" 343459;1381171597;ThickAsThieves;something that inserts random waves or such 343460;1381171607;asciilifeform;i've often thought about cobbling together a keyboard based on pinched optical fibers for the scanning matrix 343461;1381171607;mircea_popescu;the correct solution is to buy your own acre 343462;1381171613;mircea_popescu;and shoot anyone that trespasses 343463;1381171616;ThickAsThieves;hehe 343464;1381171630;ThickAsThieves;or something like how noise cancellation works 343465;1381171752;pankkake;or lead walls 343466;1381171756;ThickAsThieves;what about an all-digital kb? like with an lcd display 343467;1381171760;ThickAsThieves;or such 343468;1381171811;ThickAsThieves;http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/7/4812750/banks-stuff-atms-with-cash-as-debt-ceiling-deadline-looms 343469;1381171819;ThickAsThieves;the next Cyprus btc bubble? 343470;1381171980;ThickAsThieves;http://vigilantcitizen.com/latestnews/pictures-rothschild-family/ 343471;1381171999;nubbins`;i dont get this debt ceiling thing 343472;1381172000;ThickAsThieves;is this what the romanian btc conference will be like? 343473;1381172005;nubbins`;why don't they just raise it to infinity 343474;1381172027;nubbins`;it's not like it matters 343475;1381172181;mircea_popescu;o yeah, i should do a reminder. 343476;1381172194;assbot;[BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 228 @ 0.00122 = 0.2782 BTC [-] 343477;1381172199;mircea_popescu;dear peoples : please bear in mind http://trilema.com/2013/the-conference-second-edition/ 343478;1381172199;kakobrekla;dafuq is Ven 343479;1381172201;kakobrekla;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=290799.160;topicseen 343480;1381172207;mircea_popescu;substantial discount if you get your vip seats this year. 343481;1381172223;kakobrekla;what two vips and both losers 343482;1381172255;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 76 @ 0.00402105 = 0.3056 BTC [-] {2} 343483;1381172255;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 30 @ 1.27578034 = 38.2734 BTC [-] {8} 343484;1381172282;ThickAsThieves;treehugger coins 343485;1381172295;mircea_popescu;some hippy shit 343486;1381172296;mircea_popescu;yeah 343487;1381172300;pankkake;ven was some hype private currency a while ago 343488;1381172334;mircea_popescu;was the herp-business nefario was discussing at his pre-sudden death conference 343489;1381172342;mircea_popescu;that was the "big thing" 343490;1381172359;kakobrekla;o yeah i have some backflashes 343491;1381172365;mircea_popescu;remember ven ? 343492;1381172370;mircea_popescu;lemme grep. i like to grep. 343493;1381172370;kakobrekla;vaugley 343494;1381172382;pankkake;"The value of Ven is determined on the financial markets from a basket of currencies, commodities and carbon futures." 343495;1381172388;kakobrekla;aaaa 343496;1381172417;kakobrekla;krakens are retarded :( 343497;1381172436;pankkake;I'm sure they're only doing it because Ven paid them 343498;1381172438;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 74 @ 0.01253539 = 0.9276 BTC [-] {8} 343499;1381172448;kakobrekla;ok, not retarded but whores, then. 343500;1381172467;mircea_popescu;Oct 15 04:19:18 i tend to recall this ridiculous Ven thing being a bluechip asset. 343501;1381172470;mircea_popescu;that's a year ago 343502;1381172499;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 13 @ 1.25000001 = 16.25 BTC [-] {3} 343503;1381172500;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 0.12999998 BTC [+] 343504;1381172501;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 32 @ 1.26612499 = 40.516 BTC [-] {5} 343505;1381172524;mircea_popescu;Sep 22 04:42:04 nefario i've been perusing with much amusement your summaries of discussions with "lawyers" 343506;1381172524;mircea_popescu;Sep 22 04:42:06 stick to ven. 343507;1381172529;mircea_popescu;lmao aww 343508;1381172531;zoinky;can still trade on btct? 343509;1381172545;mircea_popescu;Sep 22 03:32:07 Yeah I'm dropping ven 343510;1381172548;kakobrekla;can still trade on glbse? 343511;1381172551;kakobrekla;;;seen nefari 343512;1381172551;zoinky;lol 343513;1381172552;gribble;I have not seen nefari. 343514;1381172553;kakobrekla;;;seen nefario 343515;1381172554;gribble;nefario was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 year, 1 week, 5 days, 23 hours, 2 minutes, and 24 seconds ago: Those assets are not listed or traded anymore 343516;1381172557;kakobrekla;here! 343517;1381172558;mircea_popescu;Sep 22 03:16:18 I don't actually exist 343518;1381172559;mircea_popescu;Sep 22 03:16:20 just a bot 343519;1381172559;mircea_popescu;Sep 22 03:16:26 and incidentally, it occurs to me i still don't see your connection to bitcoin. 343520;1381172559;mircea_popescu;Sep 22 03:16:29 you're a ven developer. 343521;1381172577;kakobrekla;O_o 343522;1381172674;mircea_popescu;Sep 20 17:04:40 kakobrekla: you think Ven is scamconomy? then WTF has bitcoin turned into? 343523;1381172674;mircea_popescu;Sep 20 16:18:30 >Learn about our historic commodity and carbon credit trades using Ven. 343524;1381172674;mircea_popescu;Sep 20 16:18:32 omfg 343525;1381172674;mircea_popescu;Sep 20 16:18:35 green nazi ppl 343526;1381172674;mircea_popescu;Sep 20 16:19:57 ban carbon credits 343527;1381172674;mircea_popescu;anyway, that's the gist of it. 343528;1381172721;kakobrekla;i still hold dat opinion 343529;1381172751;mircea_popescu;cause you're stubborn! ven has come such a long way since last autumn 343530;1381172759;mircea_popescu;its tits sag a little more now! 343531;1381172775;pankkake;well, carbon credits are a scam. or more exactly, warmists invented carbon credits to profit from their scam :) 343532;1381172790;mircea_popescu;and then the russian mafia beat them to the punch. 343533;1381172804;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.393 BTC [+] 343534;1381172805;pankkake;the russian mafia sells carbon credits? 343535;1381172881;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla actually, 3 losers! list updated. 343536;1381172988;mircea_popescu;pankkake http://www.epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Hearings.Statement&Statement_ID=b5683930-a655-4fce-8bbf-9b67acec22b5 343537;1381173051;pankkake;I don't understand how/why 343538;1381173062;mircea_popescu;because it's a racket. 343539;1381173066;mircea_popescu;and rackets are what the mob does. 343540;1381173071;mircea_popescu;what's to understand ? 343541;1381173096;asciilifeform;'when buying & selling are regulated, the 1st thing to be bought'n'sold is the regulators' (ms. rand?) 343542;1381173099;mircea_popescu;for the record : "A racket is a service that is fraudulently offered to solve a problem, such as for a problem that does not actually exist, will not be affected, or would not otherwise exist." 343543;1381173109;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1641 @ 0.00124 = 2.0348 BTC [-] {2} 343544;1381173138;pankkake;yes, but then governments are the criminals already, why would the russian mafia sell carbon credits? 343545;1381173175;mircea_popescu;because the mafia is more efficiently organised, by more determined, better people than any government 343546;1381173183;mircea_popescu;thus any lucrative racket is taken over from any govt. 343547;1381173214;pankkake;well, they probably would give me better health insurance, but it isn't happening yet :p 343548;1381173243;pankkake;anyway, I suppose you know about al gore owning a carbon credit company 343549;1381173274;mircea_popescu;yeh 343550;1381173293;kakobrekla;http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/oct/07/fbi-bitcoin-silk-road-ross-ulbricht 343551;1381173306;nubbins`;"warmists" 343552;1381173307;nubbins`;lel 343553;1381173308;kakobrekla;>FBI struggles to seize 600,000 Bitcoins from alleged Silk Road founder 343554;1381173329;nubbins`;kakobrekla: read that, heavy lels 343555;1381173331;ThickAsThieves;what do they pay court artists these days? peanuts? 343556;1381173343;nubbins`;tat, lsd sugar cubes 343557;1381173345;nubbins`;apparently 343558;1381173358;kakobrekla;lol 343559;1381173363;ThickAsThieves;is that an antenna coming out of his head? 343560;1381173429;ThickAsThieves;"Even if the FBI is not able to transfer the money, merely having possession of the wallet file itself is enough to prevent the coins being spent. The Bureau is in a position equivalent to having seized a safe belonging to a suspect with no idea of the combination – and no hope of forcing it open any other way." 343561;1381173431;nubbins`;i think it's the edge where those two alternate planes of reality meet 343562;1381173443;mircea_popescu;how retarded are these people ? 343563;1381173446;nubbins`;no hope of forcing it open! 343564;1381173462;nubbins`;i give it a week before the coins vanish 343565;1381173470;ThickAsThieves;any other way than what? 343566;1381173475;assbot;[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 20 @ 0.04998 = 0.9996 BTC [+] {2} 343567;1381173485;kakobrekla;do we know where they are parked? 343568;1381173488;nubbins`;any other way than with the "combination" 343569;1381173488;asciilifeform;nobody cancelled rectothermal cryptoanalysis! 343570;1381173498;ThickAsThieves;kako, we dont know they exist imo 343571;1381173507;mircea_popescu;"the bureau is in a position equivalent to having snatched copies of michelle obama masturbating on camera 343572;1381173519;mircea_popescu;even if this does nothing for her, they can certainly jack off in peace" 343573;1381173519;ThickAsThieves;with the lens cap on 343574;1381173536;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00084331 = 4.9755 BTC [+] {2} 343575;1381173543;ThickAsThieves;you can still hear the squishy noises! 343576;1381173558;ThickAsThieves;sorry 343577;1381173563;mircea_popescu;and all the other people that have copies can even see it! 343578;1381173574;mircea_popescu;"The Dixie Mafia is a criminal organization based in Biloxi, Mississippi, and operated primarily in the Southern United States" 343579;1381173580;mircea_popescu;i just fell over laughing 343580;1381173766;nubbins`;WHOA 343581;1381173768;nubbins`;http://blockchain.info/tx/c99eab8a071d91ce60de038c0d6bff8a51d9f566ef977edc91f6bcf091b7c06f 343582;1381173769;ozbot;Bitcoin Transaction c99eab8a071d91ce60de038c0d6bff8a51d9f566ef977edc91f6bcf091b7c06f 343583;1381173798;nubbins`;Public Note: Eu sou do Brasil... Eu quero expressar minha opinião sobre a drogas... o governo prende quem vende drogas só por causa que não da lucro para o governo... então acaba com com o cigarro com as bebidas alcoólicas... 343584;1381173826;dexX7;Public Notice: I'm from Brazil ... I want to express my opinion on drugs ... the government holds those who sell drugs just because they do not profit from the government ... then ends with the cigarette with alcohol ... 343585;1381173827;nubbins`;oh, sorry, that note is attached to the previous tx (0.00012 BTC) 343586;1381173832;nubbins`;lel 343587;1381173833;nubbins`;nevermind 343588;1381173837;dexX7;oh 343589;1381173841;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6550 @ 0.00084353 = 5.5251 BTC [+] 343590;1381173856;nubbins`;i guess they're still transferring coin from sr -> fbi 343591;1381173886;mircea_popescu;lmao all the people emailing 343592;1381173894;pankkake;"This seizure was only legal because bitcoin is not recognized as a currency" lol 343593;1381173905;ThickAsThieves;lol it's his AM dividend 343594;1381173947;nubbins`;yeah 343595;1381173958;nubbins`;these comments are about the same caliber as youtube comments 343596;1381173964;mircea_popescu;pretty much. 343597;1381173979;nubbins`;http://blockchain.info/tx/db3ed0a71adb085df9ef190c20a4fcf36ef8988bff86eeeccd7ed6328aa3381a 343598;1381173979;ozbot;Bitcoin Transaction db3ed0a71adb085df9ef190c20a4fcf36ef8988bff86eeeccd7ed6328aa3381a 343599;1381173986;asciilifeform;nah, the 250btc was the fee for taking the soldering out of his arse for ten minutes. 343600;1381174015;ThickAsThieves;"Evolution did not end with us growing opposable thumbs. You do know that, right? There's another 90 percent of our brains that we have to illuminate." 343601;1381174018;ThickAsThieves;indeed. 343602;1381174250;pankkake;;;bc,stats 343603;1381174253;gribble;Current Blocks: 262271 | Current Difficulty: 1.8928124928103292E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 264095 | Next Difficulty In: 1824 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 22 hours, 7 minutes, and 3 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 216225003.241 | Estimated Percent Change: 14.23477 343604;1381174721;jborkl;oh more KNC fire pics 343605;1381174726;jborkl;Fire! Fire 343606;1381174749;pankkake;post! 343607;1381174756;assbot;[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 15 @ 0.0504 = 0.756 BTC [+] {3} 343608;1381174759;jborkl;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XchwE9zVdnw 343609;1381174759;ozbot;Beavis and Butthead - FIRE FIRE! FIRE! FIRE! - YouTube 343610;1381174768;kakobrekla;urlpls 343611;1381174788;jborkl;http://imgur.com/a/HKLWD 343612;1381174788;ozbot;KnCBurner v2 - Imgur 343613;1381174800;pankkake;wasn't a miner named bitburner? 343614;1381174803;jborkl;3rd one I have seen 343615;1381174810;jborkl;lol yeah 343616;1381174811;dexX7;pankkake: yup, avalon board by burnin 343617;1381174849;kakobrekla;eh thats only a small fire 343618;1381174869;kakobrekla;just a fleshwound 343619;1381174874;jborkl;the 3 pics I have seen - they are all popping in the same spots 343620;1381174876;mircea_popescu;kik 343621;1381174894;mircea_popescu;jborkl this is suspicious. if caps bust they should bust moire distributedly. 343622;1381174901;mircea_popescu;maybe there's an underlying fault in the pmb. 343623;1381174905;dub;tis but a scratch 343624;1381174985;jborkl;yeah, it is strange that they have done it in the same spot basically- so I would agree there is a common problem and not random failure 343625;1381175047;jborkl;.tslb 343626;1381175047;ozbot;61.27 minutes 343627;1381175051;mod6;sweet, got my destroyer up and working 343628;1381175056;jborkl;yeah, over an hour 343629;1381175059;pankkake;if you want better explosions https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssL1DA_K0sI 343630;1381175075;jborkl;fuck you diff 189 343631;1381175088;ThickAsThieves;mp what was the name of those notes that govs use to deal in large amounts of money? 343632;1381175090;ThickAsThieves;started with an S 343633;1381175099;ThickAsThieves;i think 343634;1381175102;dub;http://news.slashdot.org/story/13/10/07/1723206/sick-of-your-local-police-force-crowdfund-your-own?utm_source=slashdot&utm_medium=twitter 343635;1381175102;ozbot;Sick of Your Local Police Force? Crowdfund Your Own - Slashdot 343636;1381175111;dub;inb4 buttcoin IPO for private police 343637;1381175156;pankkake;oh, nice. i thought this would be about the detroit guy 343638;1381175201;dub;Unlike Kickstarter, the Crowdtilt campaigns don't feature fabulous prizes for contributing; gifting $100, for example, won't entitle you to 'One (1) free "accidental" shooting of your choice.' 343639;1381175221;pankkake;not even a free anal cavity search? 343640;1381175261;lyspooner;hello everyone! did somesone say free anal cavity search? 343641;1381175274;jborkl;http://imgur.com/a/hyA3a 343642;1381175274;ozbot;KNCburner - Imgur 343643;1381175297;jborkl;http://imgur.com/2UZuUzH 343644;1381175298;ozbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 343645;1381175373;jborkl;I burned mine in on testnet 343646;1381175377;jborkl;lol 343647;1381175389;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves s ?! 343648;1381175452;pankkake;SDR 343649;1381175462;mircea_popescu;lol has nothing to do with large amts of money >D 343650;1381175469;mircea_popescu;nor are they notes. so ftw. 343651;1381175485;mircea_popescu;special drawing rights are a gold substitute, basically, since nixon. 343652;1381175501;ThickAsThieves;thats the thing 343653;1381175510;ThickAsThieves;i wanted to read up on it better 343654;1381175519;ThickAsThieves;obv my understanding is wrong :) 343655;1381175579;mircea_popescu;you understand how the fed system works, rgiht ? 343656;1381175648;ThickAsThieves;basically i had no memory of the SDR topic when we last spoke about it, just knew it was something to do with governments 343657;1381175668;ThickAsThieves;but i recall you mentioning how bitcoin could be good for like purposes 343658;1381175694;ThickAsThieves;and i want more arguments as to why bitcoins ultimate use isnt necessarily as a currency to buy coffee 343659;1381175700;mircea_popescu;mkay. so the fed system works thusly : instead of the various banks shipping bullion back and forth as people deposit/withdraw money, 343660;1381175711;mircea_popescu;they just re-allocate shares of holdings in these fed mystery boxes 343661;1381175718;mircea_popescu;which meanwhile are empty, but that doesn't matter. 343662;1381175726;ThickAsThieves;like the ones germany wants to visit 343663;1381175730;ThickAsThieves;but cant 343664;1381175734;mircea_popescu;this process was very advanced for the 50s, and so it gave an edge to the banks. 343665;1381175745;mircea_popescu;now, sdrs are an attempt to implement a similar mechanism in international trade, 343666;1381175766;mircea_popescu;so that countries can just re-allocate their debt to each other through this mechanism 343667;1381175781;mircea_popescu;it was never fully implemented, and it never worked too well in practice, 343668;1381175808;mircea_popescu;cheifly because too many cooks involved, and some of them french 343669;1381175843;ThickAsThieves;"The SDR comes to prominence when the US dollar is weak or otherwise unsuitable to be a foreign exchange reserve asset. This usually manifests itself as an allocation of SDRs to IMF member countries. Distrust of the US dollar is not the only stated reason allocations have been made, however." says wiki 343670;1381175895;mircea_popescu;not really. afaik they were most proeminent due to a sudden liquidity systemic shock caused by the arab hike 343671;1381175898;ThickAsThieves;"China has also suggested the creation of a substitution account to allow exchange of US dollars into SDRs.[Williamson 3] When substitution was proposed before, in 1978, the US appeared reluctant to allow such a mechanism to become operational.[Williamson 4] It is likely just as reluctant today." 343672;1381175901;mircea_popescu;it was never really important since then 343673;1381175974;ThickAsThieves;so basically the US only likes dealing in financial instruments that don't require provable backing 343674;1381176037;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00084381 = 10.1257 BTC [+] {2} 343675;1381176041;mircea_popescu;this is universal. 343676;1381176048;mircea_popescu;people have been wanting to short mpex for a year, 343677;1381176053;mircea_popescu;provided they don't have to post any collateral. 343678;1381176075;mircea_popescu;they would bet, except bitbet requires the actual btc. etc. 343679;1381176089;ThickAsThieves;or sell miners, without taking any risk 343680;1381176109;mircea_popescu;indeed. 343681;1381176220;assbot;[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.053 = 0.53 BTC [+] 343682;1381176249;mircea_popescu;sdrs are backed by a basket of other fiats. it's not that much backing in the first place. 343683;1381176264;mircea_popescu;moreover, as the proportion is fixed, they have all the disadvantages of a bimetallic system, which are marked. 343684;1381176321;ThickAsThieves;now if i recall, your background is in business consulting, why so much finance knowledge? 343685;1381176347;mircea_popescu;lol the crime iof knowing too much. 343686;1381176395;mircea_popescu;business consulting doesn't necessarily mean working for small businesses you know. 343687;1381176403;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 263 @ 0.00121002 = 0.3182 BTC [-] {3} 343688;1381176433;ThickAsThieves;sure, but your degree of knowledge probably rivals most that are dedicated to the field 343689;1381176464;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 251 @ 0.00120817 = 0.3033 BTC [-] {3} 343690;1381176467;mircea_popescu;as flattering as that may be, knowledge and understanding are sometimes divergent. 343691;1381176474;benkay_;mircea_popescu: what are the sundry disadvantages of bimetallic systems? 343692;1381176476;mircea_popescu;anyone can learn what the chess pieces are. 343693;1381176487;ThickAsThieves;true 343694;1381176495;benkay_;(few can memorize the opening trees, much less play the chaotic variants) 343695;1381176507;mircea_popescu;benkay_ you have two metals that both work in the same capacity, and you fix an exchange rate between them which you can't easily change. 343696;1381176519;mircea_popescu;as a result you'll constantly be arbitraged out of value. 343697;1381176525;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 286 @ 0.00120005 = 0.3432 BTC [-] {3} 343698;1381176579;mircea_popescu;if the yen is 11.6675% of a sdr and 11.6672% of the world economy people will short one and long the other somehow. this slowly whittles your holdings towards them. 343699;1381176614;mircea_popescu;on paper this sounds like nothing at all, but in practice the fabled soros breaking of the bank of england was this, fundamentally. 343700;1381176633;benkay_;o hey 343701;1381176637;benkay_;thanks 343702;1381176708;assbot;[MPEX] [S.BBET] 2000 @ 0.00059999 = 1.2 BTC [+] 343703;1381176760;robitnik;TAT, the NeoBee migration to Havelock seems to be going smoothly. Nice work. 343704;1381176769;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 140 @ 0.00084387 = 0.1181 BTC [+] 343705;1381176830;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 5000 @ 0.000165 = 0.825 BTC [-] 343706;1381176880;ThickAsThieves;thx, Havelock made it easy 343707;1381176893;ThickAsThieves;still trying to reach Ukyo... 343708;1381176911;mircea_popescu;but anyway, back to the point : i didn't use sdrs as an example of the role of bitcoin. 343709;1381176931;mircea_popescu;i used sdrs as an example of a currency item that can never be bought or held by joe scjhmoe. 343710;1381176939;mircea_popescu;yet nevertheelss has a nonzero value 343711;1381176999;ThickAsThieves;I see 343712;1381177039;ThickAsThieves;so do you have specific predictions for how btc will be used in your possible future? 343713;1381177084;mircea_popescu;well yes, take for instance the letter of credit. 343714;1381177086;ThickAsThieves;international remittance seems the next wave 343715;1381177093;mircea_popescu;something like that. 343716;1381177109;mircea_popescu;currently if i wish to pay a supplier I must apply to a bank, which may within a month or so issue me a loc, provided 343717;1381177131;mircea_popescu;the supplier is on the us approved lists of suppluiers that may be paid, and the bank feels like doing it and so on and so forth. 343718;1381177148;mircea_popescu;or i can just send them 50k btc within a half hour and be done with it. 343719;1381177161;ThickAsThieves;sounda an awful lot like a check 343720;1381177167;ThickAsThieves;sounds* 343721;1381177213;mircea_popescu;well yes. a loc is basically a large industrial check. 343722;1381177243;mircea_popescu;they also cost way too much for what they do. 343723;1381177244;ThickAsThieves;more like a cahsier's check i suppose 343724;1381177246;lyspooner;Bitbook raided by the FBI? http://bitstarsite.wordpress.com/2013/10/07/bitbook-raided-one-hour-ago/ 343725;1381177255;mircea_popescu;more like a certified draft or w.e 343726;1381177263;dub;wtf is a bitbook 343727;1381177269;ThickAsThieves;nice article 343728;1381177270;mircea_popescu;very popular ?! 343729;1381177285;mircea_popescu;da fuck i never heard of it ? 343730;1381177289;lyspooner;hang on let me Tineye that image 343731;1381177294;dub;credible news source to boot 343732;1381177316;dub;BITSTARSITELOLKEK 343733;1381177326;pankkake;sports betting only it seems 343734;1381177337;mircea_popescu;o hey looky, bootstrap 343735;1381177351;mircea_popescu;Forbidden (403) 343736;1381177351;mircea_popescu;CSRF verification failed. Request aborted. 343737;1381177351;mircea_popescu;You are seeing this message because this HTTPS site requires a 'Referer header' to be sent by your Web browser, but none was sent. 343738;1381177352;mircea_popescu;herp. 343739;1381177376;kakobrekla;url? 343740;1381177397;pankkake;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=154995.0 343741;1381177406;mircea_popescu;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=154995.msg3295151#msg3295151 343742;1381177410;mircea_popescu;that shit's dope. 343743;1381177441;mircea_popescu;"NO, IT'S A BAD GOD. THIS IS NOT GOOD... NO BITBOOK REPS, NO NOTHING RIGHT NOW. THE SITE JUST STRAIGHT UP DISAPPEARED. AND I WAS LITERALLY JUST WITHDRAWING THE BITCOINS INTO CASH. I HAVE LIKE $0 I NEEDED THAT MONEY SO BADLY YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND." 343744;1381177442;pankkake;> THAT'S LIKE SERIOUSLY MY LIFE SAVINGS 343745;1381177450;mircea_popescu;i guess there IS a sr alternative now ? 343746;1381177459;dub;HELP I NEED MY COINS. BITBOOK HAS 15 OF MY COINS THAT'S LIKE SERIOUSLY MY LIFE SAVINGS I'M GOING TO FLIP MY SHIT. 343747;1381177464;dub;oh snap 343748;1381177483;mircea_popescu;ha! you were last once dub boy! 343749;1381177488;dub;SHIT ABOUT TO BE FLIPPED YO 343750;1381177501;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 1.2 = 8.4 BTC [-] {2} 343751;1381177559;lyspooner;the bitstarsite used the picture from somewhere else http://www.democracychronicles.com/nj-politics-overwhelmed-by-role-of-money-in-elections/ 343752;1381177562;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 29391 @ 0.00012161 = 3.5742 BTC [-] {5} 343753;1381177569;mircea_popescu;anyway, here's a funny thing re locs that'll probably make anyone jealous. 343754;1381177584;mircea_popescu;my bank here in romania is giving me free securitized BLO forms which I may use for any amt, even 50 bux, 343755;1381177586;dub;so that 'blog' is 100% referral begging posts 343756;1381177594;mircea_popescu;and they DO include the extra call to release which is basically all a loc provides 343757;1381177595;dub;seems legit 343758;1381177622;mircea_popescu;making romanian banking better than bitcoin, even. 343759;1381177623;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.20628571 = 8.444 BTC [-] {4} 343760;1381177745;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5000 @ 0.00028843 = 1.4422 BTC [+] {2} 343761;1381178146;mircea_popescu;http://www.youtube.com/embed/3C9Bng7NPPY 343762;1381178149;mircea_popescu;someone should ipo this. 343763;1381178209;ozbot;the touch - YouTube 343764;1381178609;nubbins`;i developed an algorithm to predict the next 12 difficulty increases last november, and it's been correct within 2% for the past five months 343765;1381178668;pankkake;I would be surprised if it worked for the following months 343766;1381178708;jurov;nubbins`: i reused mining forecast spreadsheet and it was very accurate, too 343767;1381178735;jurov;just assumed it will go up 30% every time and the time will shorten accordingly 343768;1381178753;kakobrekla;wiki doesnt have any info on joe scjhmoe 343769;1381178761;nubbins`;ah, i used ODEs, complicated as fuck 343770;1381178766;kakobrekla;o i was scrolled up nevermind 343771;1381178766;nubbins`;your method sounds easier ;p 343772;1381178815;ThickAsThieves;and how do you separate accuracy from coincidence? 343773;1381178829;nubbins`;see, that's the thing, you can't 343774;1381178895;jurov;yes i can't 343775;1381178935;nubbins`;plus i'm totally making this all up 343776;1381178941;nubbins`;so you need to weigh that as well 343777;1381178962;jurov;add to it cases when next increase falls around idiffs expiration time 343778;1381178965;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.01195825 = 0.3587 BTC [-] {6} 343779;1381178971;jurov;which is about to happen on October 16th 343780;1381179009;jurov;either 190m or 250m will be paid, no one knows how much 343781;1381179018;jurov;fun :) 343782;1381179140;jurov;short idiffs, ddos all the pools 343783;1381179167;nubbins`;profit! 343784;1381179179;nubbins`;you should ipo that 343785;1381179189;BingoBoingo;In which a representative of SolarWindMiningCompany asked "dafuq is BingoBoingo" http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2013/10/07/re_dafuq_has_the_nerve/ A reply to an AMAZING COMPANY 343786;1381179189;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 343787;1381179258;jurov;https://www.cryptsy.com/ moar altcoinz, moar amazing 343788;1381179258;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 343789;1381179259;ozbot;Cryptsy - Trade Home 343790;1381179306;nubbins`;http://25.media.tumblr.com/3191541bb5c4862c10d9b705ad6b0bf7/tumblr_mqajegAvOJ1rypweio1_500.gif 343791;1381179309;nubbins`;^^^ ipo that 343792;1381179320;nubbins`;amazing cat 343793;1381179320;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 343794;1381179329;Rulother;jeez 343795;1381179331;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [BTC-GROWTH] 4 @ 0.085495 = 0.342 BTC [+] {2} 343796;1381179349;nubbins`;do not click if you have epilepsy 343797;1381179377;jurov;too late 343798;1381179414;nubbins`;do not have epilepsy 343799;1381179510;nubbins`;i wonder would people buy green coffee beans with btc? 343800;1381179524;nubbins`;i've got a bunch that i won't be roasting any time soon 343801;1381180344;dexX7;uh oh http://smidge.com/ 343802;1381180378;jborkl;What is smidge anyway? 343803;1381180381;mircea_popescu;lol good one. 343804;1381180385;nubbins`;LEL 343805;1381180388;jborkl;besides done and usagi 343806;1381180411;nubbins`;wasn't smidge traded on havelock for like a day and a half or something? 343807;1381180416;mircea_popescu;"I largely address the issue of who the fuck has the never for this " 343808;1381180417;mircea_popescu;not bad 343809;1381180421;dexX7;jborkl: otc fund 343810;1381180437;dexX7;https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgLGW6ARhmFLdDVyLUFPYjBHX0FIWWxXTy1Bc09uaVE&usp=sharing 343811;1381180438;ozbot;Google Docs - Online documents, spreadsheets, presentations, surveys, file storage and more 343812;1381180458;mircea_popescu;smidge is this irl accountant guy with a jet fighter pilot wife and two kids, who used to broker for mpex and do a bunch of other venture stuff 343813;1381180465;mircea_popescu;but has been busy with fambly past year or so. 343814;1381180476;ThickAsThieves;isnt that smickles? 343815;1381180482;nubbins`;his kids brokered for mpex? jesus 343816;1381180488;dexX7;x_X 343817;1381180490;kakobrekla;lol 343818;1381180501;kakobrekla;its smickles yea not smidge 343819;1381180505;kakobrekla;lmao 343820;1381180506;mircea_popescu;o fuck me. 343821;1381180509;ThickAsThieves;lol 343822;1381180515;nubbins`;smi* 343823;1381180521;mircea_popescu;ok ok. smidge is this dangerously close to smickles named guy, who;'s kinda young, unwed, 343824;1381180532;mircea_popescu;and been trying to do things of import on the forum with moderate success. 343825;1381180537;kakobrekla;smidge is also known as midge. 343826;1381180538;nubbins`;does he at least have a girlfriend who is a boat captain or something? 343827;1381180542;mircea_popescu;i suppose he's taken -pr ish advice and is nao lurking 343828;1381180553;ThickAsThieves;he also disappeared when we called him usagi 343829;1381180562;ThickAsThieves;and usagi disappeared too 343830;1381180563;nubbins`;we are all usagi 343831;1381180563;dexX7;yup from this channel 343832;1381180576;mircea_popescu;i don't think he's usagi because he made german-type slight style errors 343833;1381180582;dexX7;though smidge has a few social profiles which look legit 343834;1381180586;mircea_popescu;whereas princess oliver is purely midwestern 343835;1381180591;ThickAsThieves;yeah, he pm'd me very angry that day 343836;1381180597;dexX7;lol rly? 343837;1381180612;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 25113 @ 0.00012068 = 3.0306 BTC [-] {3} 343838;1381180618;ThickAsThieves;apparently being called usagi is a pretty damning insult 343839;1381180625;mircea_popescu;well... 343840;1381180638;nubbins`;usagi is the new judas 343841;1381180650;mircea_popescu;i wonder if judas had tits 343842;1381180655;jborkl;calling someone Usagi is very insulting 343843;1381180656;mircea_popescu;would she had still been the villain 343844;1381180673;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 121603 @ 0.00011355 = 13.808 BTC [-] {20} 343845;1381180679;nubbins`;mircea_popescu: well, look at jesus' wife 343846;1381180680;jborkl;I think that means dumbass in Japanese 343847;1381180684;nubbins`;people called her a hooker! 343848;1381180688;jborkl;or maybe tranny 343849;1381180705;mircea_popescu;jborkl i agree. imo the insult ladder goes like taaki > usagi > pietilla > wagner 343850;1381180728;jborkl;taaki has awesome hair :/ 343851;1381180734;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 1.17 BTC [-] 343852;1381180743;mircea_popescu;i never saw him naked. 343853;1381180752;jborkl;lol touche 343854;1381180824;dexX7;i liked pietilla before he went nuts 343855;1381180842;dexX7;btc = $ 300k ! 343856;1381180850;mircea_popescu;i liked him after he went nuts past the point of common nuttery into pure trollage. 343857;1381180899;mircea_popescu;"If you are a representative of Solar Wind Mining reading this, be aware that Im not calling you a scam. Im saying that you potentially legitimate venture doesnt even look as good as some scams, and this situation was entirely preventable." 343858;1381180902;mircea_popescu;ajhaha this is epic. 343859;1381180923;mircea_popescu;"bitch, i'm not saying you're a whore, i'm saying you look worse than plenty of whores and this is all your doing." 343860;1381181344;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 1.169 = 11.69 BTC [-] {2} 343861;1381181366;jurov;https://bitcoinpresscenter.org/page/faq behold the experts 343862;1381181366;ozbot;FAQ | Bitcoin Press Center 343863;1381181405;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 414 @ 0.01159447 = 4.8001 BTC [-] {12} 343864;1381181428;ThickAsThieves;self-nominated of course 343865;1381181436;mircea_popescu;Q: Do the moderators decide who is added or not? 343866;1381181436;mircea_popescu;A: No, the moderators only check accuracy. They are neither qualified nor authorized to make press relations decisions 343867;1381181437;jurov;who isn't? 343868;1381181454;jurov;maybe mpoe-pr can register :D 343869;1381181478;nubbins`;a+, would nominate 343870;1381181499;ThickAsThieves;they need some sorta badges too 343871;1381181506;ThickAsThieves;how can i add my klout score? 343872;1381181517;ThickAsThieves;:) 343873;1381181536;nubbins`;lel 343874;1381181543;nubbins`;https://bitcoinpresscenter.org/presscontact/ryan-dickherber 343875;1381181543;ozbot;Ryan Dickherber | Bitcoin Press Center 343876;1381181551;mircea_popescu;that can;t be a name 343877;1381181560;nubbins`;that's up there with Destiny Fardy-Butt 343878;1381181564;mircea_popescu;does he harbor the dick ? 343879;1381181590;ThickAsThieves;i should make one and use trilema quotes for all my citations 343880;1381181592;dub;usagi chose 'smidge' because it was close to smickles and he had gone awol 343881;1381181598;jborkl;https://bitcoinpresscenter.org/presslist-filtered/spoken-slovak 343882;1381181599;ozbot;Bitcoin Press Center | A global media center for bitcoin 343883;1381181602;dub;standard operating proceedure 343884;1381181613;nubbins`;he harbours that fucking stogie pretty well 343885;1381181651;jborkl;TuurDemeester < that was another name on the site 343886;1381181655;pankkake;https://bitcoinpresscenter.org/presscontact/mari-n-jan-u-ka 343887;1381181657;jborkl;turd dumpster 343888;1381181662;nubbins`;https://bitcoinpresscenter.org/sites/default/files/me_big.jpg 343889;1381181666;nubbins`;lelelel 343890;1381181685;ThickAsThieves;tuur is a pretty good dude 343891;1381181688;nubbins`;i bet the WSJ is calling him right now 343892;1381181694;jurov;btw and it came out exactly this dude is going to install bitcoin atm in bratislava 343893;1381181710;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3698 @ 0.00084045 = 3.108 BTC [-] 343894;1381181749;Apocalyptic;nice, do you know where exactly jurov ? 343895;1381181759;jurov;was not said where yet 343896;1381181771;pankkake;I want some bitcoin ass to mouth 343897;1381181773;jurov;JobTitle:CEO, IT Conslutant lmaoooooooo 343898;1381181775;nubbins`;so i received a judgment in the mail today, regarding the claim we filed against our previous tenants 343899;1381181784;nubbins`;they awarded us 100% of what we asked for! 343900;1381181787;nubbins`;party time 343901;1381181790;jborkl;https://bitcoinpresscenter.org/presslist-filtered/spoken-korean 343902;1381181791;ozbot;Bitcoin Press Center | A global media center for bitcoin 343903;1381181792;jborkl;lolol 343904;1381181803;ThickAsThieves;so sexy! 343905;1381181806;pankkake;conslutant is a pretty much what consultants should actually call themselves 343906;1381181821;Apocalyptic;heh 343907;1381181851;dub;nubbins`: spend it on psychotic hookers 343908;1381181885;ThickAsThieves;after seeing Roger Ver in person I no longer think someone had a gun to his head in that Gox-is-fine video, he's just that uncomfortable acting all the time 343909;1381181885;mircea_popescu;nubbins` get pankkake to tell you what the mystery drug is called 343910;1381181896;nubbins`;dub: i just press my ear to the wall if i want psychotic hookers 343911;1381181912;mircea_popescu;nubbins` why not ask them over ? 343912;1381181913;nubbins`;pankkake: what is the mystery drug called? (?) 343913;1381181916;ThickAsThieves;a fun moment was when Mike Hearn told the Mastercoin guy his project was shit 343914;1381181920;pankkake;I cannot tell 343915;1381181921;nubbins`;mircea_popescu: she's a beast 343916;1381181940;ThickAsThieves;something like "i believe you are actually trying to do it, i just dont think you are capable" 343917;1381181942;pankkake;so bitcoin central sends me a mail to say I'm refused again, does not tell me why, and the website says everything is still under review 343918;1381181944;nubbins`;currently she is screaming "GERRRAHHHHHHHHHHHH" to her empty apartment 343919;1381181964;ThickAsThieves;i think Hearn was my favorite guy 343920;1381181976;ThickAsThieves;he has that i'm so smart it hurts to be around you attitude 343921;1381181977;nubbins`;interspersed with wails of despair and things being thrown at walls 343922;1381181980;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves im curious what happens if hearn ever gets his shit together and shows up at some event of mine 343923;1381181986;mircea_popescu;cause basically i hold the same opinion of him. 343924;1381182034;ThickAsThieves;he was even reasonable when i asked him if he felt this whole decntralization of everything trend was a worthy pursuit 343925;1381182053;ThickAsThieves;said it's not his pursuit, and that i was right to question it 343926;1381182073;nubbins`;i'm going to start a forum called bitcoinchat.org 343927;1381182075;ThickAsThieves;i believe centralization is the natural evolution of most things 343928;1381182078;mircea_popescu;well sure. ask him if he thinks it's ok to submit revisions to code he's never read. 343929;1381182081;nubbins`;you have to pay to sign up 343930;1381182083;ThickAsThieves;oh 343931;1381182083;mircea_popescu;that'll be a diff question. 343932;1381182085;nubbins`;and you get dividends 343933;1381182093;nubbins`;every time you post 343934;1381182097;ThickAsThieves;i also asked him about the "core devs" 343935;1381182108;mircea_popescu;nubbins` something like that might actually work. a ponzi forum 343936;1381182111;ThickAsThieves;basically i expressed that this name alone worries me, 343937;1381182113;nubbins`;not a ponzi 343938;1381182121;nubbins`;you get divs! 343939;1381182123;mircea_popescu;you pay X to join, you get a percentage of all subsequent joins equal to your "trust rating" 343940;1381182127;mircea_popescu;as voted by other members. 343941;1381182129;ThickAsThieves;that accepting the devs as "core" is the most dangerous centralization in bitcoin 343942;1381182133;ThickAsThieves;on this he disagreed 343943;1381182146;nubbins`;mircea_popescu: i just need to figure out how to structure the "house edge" 343944;1381182148;ThickAsThieves;he says Gavin knows what's best and he trusts him, basically 343945;1381182163;ThickAsThieves;i didnt press the issue, but i disagreee 343946;1381182169;mircea_popescu;well i don't. 343947;1381182176;mircea_popescu;used to , but after the retarded server shit... meh. 343948;1381182212;ThickAsThieves;i both appreciate that some party is making the effort, and worry that it's just one party 343949;1381182240;ThickAsThieves;what if Gavin is wrong one day? or makes a big mistake? 343950;1381182243;ThickAsThieves;etc 343951;1381182247;ThickAsThieves;or dies 343952;1381182262;mircea_popescu;im hard pressed to appreciate the effort these days. 343953;1381182280;ThickAsThieves;i also brought up the Btc foundation 343954;1381182296;ThickAsThieves;he said there's no situation where gavin would just do what they vote for 343955;1381182298;ThickAsThieves;paid or not 343956;1381182359;ThickAsThieves;did i already tell you guys about the moment with the central banks being put on the spot? 343957;1381182365;ThickAsThieves;it was pretty awesome 343958;1381182377;ThickAsThieves;it was the Regulation panel 343959;1381182387;ThickAsThieves;i wonder if there's a vid 343960;1381182406;nubbins`;do tell 343961;1381182407;ThickAsThieves;there is 343962;1381182422;ThickAsThieves;i'll find it 343963;1381182422;dub;what circlejerk have you been attending? 343964;1381182428;ThickAsThieves;Bitcoin Europe 343965;1381182434;nubbins`;aka BTC-E 343966;1381182464;dub;who ate the biscuit? 343967;1381182476;nubbins`;everybody 343968;1381182631;ThickAsThieves;the panel is Wieske Ebbe (Dutch Central Bank), Michael Maier (Fidor Bank), Niels Ploeger (Amsterdam Police), Joerg Platzer (Crypto Economics Consulting Group) & Casper Riekerk (Finnius Lawyers) 343969;1381182641;ThickAsThieves;finding place in video 343970;1381182681;ThickAsThieves;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaW2iPSPEs0&feature=player_detailpage#t=2218 343971;1381182681;ozbot;Regulation Of Bitcoin - The European Bitcoin Convention -- 2013 Amsterdam - YouTube 343972;1381182686;ThickAsThieves;there i think that's it 343973;1381182687;pankkake;interesting that non-hard-core-bitcoiners were there 343974;1381182730;pankkake;;;tslb 343975;1381182737;gribble;Time since last block: 48 minutes and 5 seconds 343976;1381182762;ThickAsThieves;the audience question basically boils down to "Who are the real criminals, and what are you doing to regulate yourselves" 343977;1381182775;ThickAsThieves;it's the only question no one on the panel attempted to answer 343978;1381182791;dub;at 22:18? 343979;1381182800;pankkake;haha, nice 343980;1381182804;dub;(your links does nt work) 343981;1381182816;pankkake;at 37:40ish 343982;1381182834;ThickAsThieves;37:10 is when it begins 343983;1381182904;pankkake;why does the mac have more than one apple logo? 343984;1381182913;pankkake;is this the special fanboy edition? 343985;1381182930;kakobrekla;lol 343986;1381182953;nubbins`;http://imgur.com/u4Ba5k5 343987;1381182953;ozbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 343988;1381182961;nubbins`;that's one of the things the tenants left behind 343989;1381182964;nubbins`;fucked up 343990;1381183011;dub;lolwut 343991;1381183024;nubbins`;right? 343992;1381183031;jborkl;lol that is kinda strange 343993;1381183032;nubbins`;the guy who drew that has a 9yo daughter 343994;1381183042;nubbins`;and i found diapers in his room, too 343995;1381183049;nubbins`;really really really strange stuff 343996;1381183076;pankkake;lol 343997;1381183091;pankkake;I like those guys, they make me think I have a normal sexuality 343998;1381183099;nubbins`;heh 343999;1381183103;nubbins`;he also had a photo album 344000;1381183105;BingoBoingo;Oh, the Ryan Dickherber character got a mention here. At some point he contacted me in response to some local meetup I half assedly tried to organize. He seemed rather boring so I didn't bother. Pretty sure it is actually his name though. 344001;1381183127;nubbins`;full of pictures of wizards, fantasy landscapes, and a small section of women's faces on the very last page, with cut-out photos of himself glued on top 344002;1381183163;ThickAsThieves;gonna link the vid of Hearn chewing up mastercoin 344003;1381183189;ThickAsThieves;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwyZ7ZgCq_o&feature=player_detailpage#t=457 344004;1381183189;ozbot;Decentralized Exchange Panel - The European Bitcoin Convention -- 2013 Amsterdam - YouTube 344005;1381183196;nubbins`;mastercoin is a pretty good chuckle 344006;1381183235;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69348300 BTC to 1`386`966 shares, 50 satoshi per share 344007;1381183278;ThickAsThieves;apparently no one filmed me asked the quantum mining guys who they thought they were fooling 344008;1381183283;ThickAsThieves;asking* 344009;1381183320;blastbob;alot of altcoin focus on that convetion? 344010;1381183323;pankkake;that sounds like another diaspora* in the making 344011;1381183361;ThickAsThieves;not much altcoin focus really 344012;1381183369;ThickAsThieves;charlie lee did appear twice 344013;1381183377;ThickAsThieves;but to discuss coinbase mostly 344014;1381183401;ThickAsThieves;i considered asking him when they would list ltc 344015;1381183401;blastbob;ah ok 344016;1381183406;ThickAsThieves;but i knew he wouldnt answer 344017;1381183429;blastbob;i think one of the other guys at coinbase said in a video that they wasnt going to 344018;1381183439;blastbob;after he said they hired lee 344019;1381183540;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 48 @ 0.0041 = 0.1968 BTC [+] 344020;1381183570;ThickAsThieves;http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/10/07/the-switchboard-the-fbi-has-only-seized-26000-of-the-600000-bitcoins-silk-road-raked-in/ 344021;1381183571;ozbot;The Switchboard: The FBI has only seized 26,000 of the 600,000 Bitcoins Silk Road raked in 344022;1381183574;ThickAsThieves;sigh 344023;1381183586;blastbob;so is btctc web gone? 344024;1381183596;ThickAsThieves;the FBI has seized some 26,000 Bitcoins, but they have "not been able to get to Ulbricht’s personal Bitcoin yet. 'That’s like another $80 million worth,' [and FBI spokesperson] said 344025;1381183648;nubbins`;after reading that, i wondered if they even knew what addresses the funds are in 344026;1381183653;nubbins`;or if they're just guessing 344027;1381183722;ThickAsThieves;i still think it's based on sales logs 344028;1381183734;ThickAsThieves;rather than actually knowing a wallet is out there 344029;1381183848;nubbins`;well, that's silly 344030;1381183940;b0n1;mircea_popescu, still there? 344031;1381183967;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00083744 = 2.0936 BTC [-] 344032;1381184101;pankkake;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=125629.msg3295891#msg3295891 LOL 344033;1381184102;ozbot;[BTC-TC] Virtual Community Exchange [WINDING DOWN] 344034;1381184152;pankkake;I wonder why people don't just setup auto renewal 344035;1381184174;nubbins`;haha 344036;1381184189;nubbins`;because they might really NEED that ten bucks, this time next year 344037;1381184228;dub;DEEEEERP 344038;1381184255;dub;I thought .co domains were free 344039;1381184489;mircea_popescu;yes. 344040;1381184571;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves strangely enough for a "dutch central bank" rep, nobody heard of this ebe fellow. 344041;1381184639;mircea_popescu;;;google site:dnb.nl ebbe 344042;1381184640;gribble;No matches found. 344043;1381184672;b0n1;http://trilema.com/2013/least-likely-to-succeed-character-the-upseller/ although I read the article I couldn't find a reason way back and lay betting with btc is problematic 344044;1381184673;ozbot;Least likely to succeed character : The upseller pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 344045;1381184700;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo glwt. 344046;1381184791;BingoBoingo;Thanks mircea_popescu they seem like they can't even throw a proper labcoin style AMAZINGCOMPANY shitstorm. This might be more boring than I anticipated. 344047;1381184804;mircea_popescu;b0n1 well, ok. let's see here 344048;1381184853;mircea_popescu;do you grok the part of how back/lay is a subset of mutual betting ? 344049;1381184882;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2443 @ 0.00083772 = 2.0465 BTC [+] 344050;1381184893;b0n1;no 344051;1381184926;mircea_popescu;mkay. this is a problem of maffs. let's try something else : 344052;1381184947;mircea_popescu;do you see how the back/lay system distributes liquidity arbitrarily ? 344053;1381185094;b0n1;yes 344054;1381185143;mircea_popescu;okay. do you see how that can be used to shave a significant edge off the naive players ? 344055;1381185171;b0n1;no 344056;1381185209;nubbins`;"The last time I had seen grown humans throw up like stressed out cats we were in a ditch and being fired upon." 344057;1381185215;nubbins`;do elaborate 344058;1381185230;ThickAsThieves;paintball 344059;1381185273;mircea_popescu;b0n1 ok, simpler case of that : mutual betting is lay/back with no spread. if you can lay for 45 cents then you can back for 55, precisely. 344060;1381185287;mircea_popescu;nubbins` nah ty. 344061;1381185307;nubbins`;tease 344062;1381185321;nubbins`;tat, lel 344063;1381185371;b0n1;yeah, i see that point 344064;1381185450;mircea_popescu;now consider the cancellation problem. 344065;1381185460;mircea_popescu;a mutual bet you can always cancel by making an appropiate bet on the other side. 344066;1381185472;mircea_popescu;a back/lay bet you can only cancel if someone is willing to unwind you. 344067;1381185480;mircea_popescu;in low liquidity this becomes pretty huge. 344068;1381185496;dub;http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/scot%20free.html not sure how I stumbled on this but the pic of Dred Scott alone is worth the share 344069;1381185497;ozbot;Scot free 344070;1381185543;b0n1;yes mircea_popescu 344071;1381185548;mircea_popescu;i thought it was about scottish people 344072;1381185587;mircea_popescu;b0n1 so basically, mutual betting is better for the bettor. line betting is great for the bookie. lay/back is great for the site/liquidity provider 344073;1381185595;mircea_popescu;which is i guess another way of saying bookie. 344074;1381185628;b0n1;yes but additionally lay/back is also good for arbing 344075;1381185640;mircea_popescu;give an example 344076;1381185675;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7805 @ 0.00083743 = 6.5361 BTC [-] {2} 344077;1381185698;b0n1;for example in a football game when you can bet on team A or team B or draw and also lay every bet, too 344078;1381185717;b0n1;there can be many scenarios where there are arbitrage opportunities 344079;1381185765;mircea_popescu;sure, the event can be repackaged every which way, but fundamentally it's either a or b. 344080;1381185797;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 309 @ 0.00083772 = 0.2589 BTC [+] 344081;1381185805;b0n1;yes, but you can for example lay b and bet a and can do arbitrage with that 344082;1381185810;mircea_popescu;i don't see we have such a shortage of events that we need to make them last by creating dozens of bets out of the same one thing 344083;1381185844;b0n1;because prices are set by supply and demand from the users, at least thats how it works on betfair 344084;1381185864;mircea_popescu;you can do the same exact thing on mutual betting, except paying less vig. 344085;1381185886;mircea_popescu;take the most recent cointerra thing : 344086;1381185887;mircea_popescu;http://bitbet.us/bet/550/cointerra-will-deliver-in-2013/ 344087;1381185888;ozbot;BitBet - Cointerra will deliver in 2013 344088;1381185894;mircea_popescu;;;calc 5.16 / 0.08 344089;1381185894;gribble;64.5 344090;1381185910;mircea_popescu;unless you think it's 64.5 to 1 they actually deliver, there's some arbitrage there. 344091;1381185942;mike_c;yeah.. my issue is that it feels like unless you get in early there is no way to bet. 344092;1381185947;mike_c;i.e. http://bitbet.us/bet/119/the-spot-gold-price-will-trade-above-2000-oz/ 344093;1381185952;mike_c;the odds on both sides suck. 344094;1381185966;mike_c;unless i misunderstand something.. 344095;1381185981;mircea_popescu;how can the odds on both sides suck ? 344096;1381185982;b0n1;mircea_popescu, i am not sure whether that is of the same nature as the point i want to mention here 344097;1381185990;nubbins`;okay, i'm going to step outside for a few moments 344098;1381185992;nubbins`;in the meantime 344099;1381185993;nubbins`;http://imgur.com/a/9EqWU 344100;1381185994;ozbot;This is why damage deposits exist. - Imgur 344101;1381186018;mircea_popescu;mike_c well, it's an 8 month old bet. it's almost dead. you still get 1.1 / 1.7 for 2 months out. 344102;1381186078;mike_c;yeah. just seems like the weight drops off so quickly that its tough to get in. The weighting system seems to go against your philosophy of monitoring the bet and pushing the other side if you think the bet has moved the wrong way. 344103;1381186080;mircea_popescu;seeing how it's 1.3k atm... seems about right to me. you get better odds on that somewhere ? 344104;1381186103;mircea_popescu;i dunno that it does that honestly. 344105;1381186148;mircea_popescu;seems to me it's actually pricing the thing pretty darned accurately. if you look at options they're a worse deal. 344106;1381186160;mike_c;lemme check 344107;1381186197;mircea_popescu;i dunno that you can derive 10% gains over ghold staying under 2k an ounce for the rest of the year 344108;1381186243;mircea_popescu;b0n1 what'd be the difference you'd say? 344109;1381186268;mike_c;nasdaq.com is slow as shit. 344110;1381186376;mike_c;ok. i agree with you (and therefore will place a bet). let me find a better example or understand that I was wrong. 344111;1381186411;mircea_popescu;in general it's a daunting proposition, because it's so unstructured. 344112;1381186423;mircea_popescu;people are used to the very cloistered situation traditional betting venues offer. 344113;1381186438;mircea_popescu;the only problem is, traditional betting venues work much like the casino, to skim as much as possible. 344114;1381186581;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7550 @ 0.00083797 = 6.3267 BTC [+] {2} 344115;1381186592;b0n1;mircea_popescu, what i mean with arbing is for example in a binary bet where you can bet on event A or B you could lay both and make profit ( arbitrage opportunity) 344116;1381186678;b0n1;the quotes for bet/lay of an event A are not "entangled" with bet/lay of an event B so to say 344117;1381186704;mircea_popescu;so then if the events are unrelated then this is simply atiomic betting. you can bet no on all the various miner deliveries on bitbet and win with all 344118;1381186706;mircea_popescu;heck, people have. 344119;1381186830;b0n1;don't see the point here 344120;1381186875;mircea_popescu;well me either. 344121;1381186887;mircea_popescu;so you can lay two unrelated bets. if they're unrelated that;'s not arbitrage. 344122;1381186923;mircea_popescu;so basically you'd like to bet with stupid people ? 344123;1381186946;b0n1;well mircea_popescu a lot of money make a living with that all day on betfair ... 344124;1381186954;b0n1;a lot of people 344125;1381186985;mircea_popescu;i don't think a discussion of the cluelessness of the population can in principle be made into a comparison of betting systems. 344126;1381187016;mircea_popescu;while this may be true, either in your own case or even generally, it still has northing to do with the car. 344127;1381187159;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: apparently I'm a sock for your PR now, or she's a sock for me? I'm wondering if this SolarWind thing has scammed before https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=297334.msg3296064#msg3296064 344128;1381187167;b0n1;well... initially I was wondering why there is no back/lay betting system for btc so far. You told me then that there are difficulties and I was curious about them, but still dont get it I am afraid 344129;1381187225;b0n1;mircea_popescu, what alternatives? 344130;1381187324;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo better learn to walk in heels. 344131;1381187365;b0n1;I think its an idea worth thinking about since back/lay betting systems are much more attractive for intelligent punters who don't want to get robbed by line bettings 344132;1381187443;mircea_popescu;until they put the afternoon required into figuring it out and move on to mutual. 344133;1381187586;peterl;BTCT will be open for trading for one more day due to the domain registration lasping today https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=125629.msg3296116#msg3296116 344134;1381187642;b0n1;http://bitbet.us/bet/550/cointerra-will-deliver-in-2013/ why is nobody betting a yes here? Chances are much higher for yes atm than for no 344135;1381187676;peterl;what's a cointerra? 344136;1381187679;b0n1;i mean a reasonable big amount on yes 344137;1381187692;mircea_popescu;b0n1 well it's new, prolly nobody with a balance saw it yet. 344138;1381187701;mircea_popescu;or who knows, maybe there's no confidence in delivery. 344139;1381187779;BingoBoingo;After the Picostocks news I'm leaning towards no chance CoinTerra delivers, if they deliver at all I imagine it would be BFL style... 344140;1381187835;b0n1;but someone here confirmed some hours ago visiting cointerra that they would deliver 344141;1381187842;mircea_popescu;it's a great thing all these "companies" don't actually have professional cfos involved so nobody realises just how much damage a faux pas of the sort does to their prospects 344142;1381187887;b0n1;also there is high evidence since they already sold the december batch 344143;1381187890;mircea_popescu;b0n1 twas jborkl, and he said that's what they said not what they'll do necessarily. 344144;1381187909;mircea_popescu;lol by this criteria bfl delivered in 2012. 344145;1381187919;b0n1;:) 344146;1381187984;kakobrekla;!bash 2 344147;1381187985;assbot;Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1409055/plain/) 344148;1381187993;b0n1;the only reasonable amount in there so far is a 5 btc on no and even the owner of this bet believes it is a yes since it was a hedge 344149;1381187998;kakobrekla;well thats a fail 344150;1381188129;mircea_popescu;b0n1 mike_c was discussing a 50+ btc bet earlier. what's your definition of reasonable ? 344151;1381188131;assbot;Last 5 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1409061/plain/) 344152;1381188131;kakobrekla;!b 5 344153;1381188143;benkay;ThickAsThieves nobody caught you grilling the quantum guys? 344154;1381188144;b0n1;on no? 344155;1381188152;kakobrekla;yay 344156;1381188158;BingoBoingo;b0n1: That 5 BTC no bet, probably wasn't a hedge. Sometimes a BitBet bet is just a bet and not a fancy hedge. 344157;1381188219;mircea_popescu;http://bitbet.us/bet/119/the-spot-gold-price-will-trade-above-2000-oz/ 344158;1381188222;ozbot;BitBet - The spot gold price will trade above $2000/oz in 2013 344159;1381188222;mircea_popescu;43 no 11 yes or w/e 344160;1381188237;mircea_popescu;http://bitbet.us/bet/147/mtgox-out-of-business-by-end-of-year/ 344161;1381188237;ThickAsThieves;Neo & Bee presentation at The Bitcoin Europe Conference https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFmiDBLQA1o 344162;1381188237;ozbot;BitBet - MtGox out of business by end of year 344163;1381188238;mircea_popescu;22 : 6 344164;1381188257;mircea_popescu;http://bitbet.us/bet/518/btc-network-diff-to-top-210m-before-november/ 344165;1381188257;ozbot;BitBet - BTC network diff to top 210M before November 344166;1381188258;mircea_popescu;whoa nelly. 344167;1381188264;mircea_popescu;diff bets are such crazytalk. 344168;1381188405;peterl;ThickAsThieves this video is really bad quality. Couldn't you at least get a tripod? 344169;1381188450;asciilifeform;anyone else notice Mr. S endorsing ESP? https://twitter.com/EJosephSnowden/status/384018062237659136 344170;1381188502;benkay;why are diff bets crazytalk? 344171;1381188548;mircea_popescu;well for instance that one looked like it'll go the other way at outset. 344172;1381188576;ThickAsThieves;peterl, the video was never planned to be made 344173;1381188582;ThickAsThieves;it's just me holding a tablet 344174;1381188610;ThickAsThieves;there was an official videographer there 344175;1381188611;peterl;oh, that explains it. I guess that is decent quality for a tablet video 344176;1381188612;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform huh ?! 344177;1381188619;ThickAsThieves;but no sign of the video from this session 344178;1381188649;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: that was certainly my impression from the link. 344179;1381188673;mircea_popescu;what's esp for one ? 344180;1381188685;asciilifeform;as in telekinesis, etc 344181;1381188737;asciilifeform;he linked to some joker charging $$$$ for seminars in soothsaying, who makes clients sign NDA; S comments that 'they got to him, made him do it.' 344182;1381188737;mircea_popescu;uh 344183;1381188740;Vexual;the uh, cypress sec, um.. we are posing to um them a *shrug* guildline, to ... bitcoin... 344184;1381188758;mircea_popescu;mayhap the scrutiny is too close. 344185;1381188847;assbot;[BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 775 @ 0.00122 = 0.9455 BTC [-] {2} 344186;1381188880;asciilifeform;I'll laugh my arse off if it comes out that signals intel is being 'laundered' via... government soothsayers. 344187;1381188896;ThickAsThieves;Vexual, he was first presenter and a bit nervous maybe 344188;1381188909;ThickAsThieves;i dont think he's ever done this before 344189;1381188927;Vexual;yes 344190;1381188943;ThickAsThieves;i gave him some pointers after 344191;1381188944;mircea_popescu;wouldn't be the first time 344192;1381188948;ThickAsThieves;but yknow 344193;1381188953;mircea_popescu;but still. random shit ppkl say. 344194;1381188960;Vexual;reading between the line I am concerned about the lawyers saying that the regulators will be welcoming of their submissions 344195;1381188980;ThickAsThieves;everyone knows everyone in Cyprus 344196;1381188996;ThickAsThieves;it's very much a who-you-know kinda place 344197;1381188997;mircea_popescu;Vexual always a good idea to keep in mind that people talking binds nobody. including the people themselves most of the time. 344198;1381189001;Vexual;yes, any theyve said the lawyers are tight with the regulators 344199;1381189044;ThickAsThieves;this sentiment was repeated by other lawyers i spoke with in other countries, 344200;1381189062;ThickAsThieves;essentially the regulators welcome recommendations in new areas 344201;1381189070;ThickAsThieves;of course they will do what they want 344202;1381189079;Vexual;that the regulators will accept submission, of that their plan will get the green light? 344203;1381189095;mircea_popescu;lol. 344204;1381189104;mircea_popescu;bitcoin cares about this now ? 344205;1381189105;ThickAsThieves;but generally you can see the difference between germany or cyprus asking for guidance, and the US sending subpeonas 344206;1381189114;mircea_popescu;but anyway. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cajcEZ5Z-x8 344207;1381189116;mircea_popescu;tada! 344208;1381189136;ThickAsThieves;the plan is already green lit 344209;1381189149;ThickAsThieves;the question is whether they will get additional regulation 344210;1381189157;Vexual;the business plan shows executive salaries exceeding legals before they even open for business 344211;1381189182;ThickAsThieves;i suggest you talk to Danny about specifics 344212;1381189188;ThickAsThieves;it's not MY business after all 344213;1381189204;ThickAsThieves;and legally i shouldnt really be spekaing on it at all anyway 344214;1381189208;ThickAsThieves;speaking* 344215;1381189213;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 1.15000001 = 2.3 BTC [-] 344216;1381189274;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 9000 @ 0.0001086 = 0.9774 BTC [-] 344217;1381189377;Vexual;give the lawyers a tidy share parcel and I forsee a different outcome 344218;1381189579;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3611 @ 0.00084376 = 3.0468 BTC [+] 344219;1381189762;Vexual;bitcoins on a plane! 344220;1381189827;nubbins`;! 344221;1381189884;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 100 @ 0.0041 = 0.41 BTC [+] 344222;1381190426;KRS1;jeezus mircea_popescu dont you ever sleep 344223;1381190437;KRS1;doh he's gone i'll take that as a yes 344224;1381190464;KRS1;some of you m-f are here 24 hours a day and idk how 344225;1381190500;kakobrekla;lol 344226;1381190555;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.29 = 6.45 BTC [+] 344227;1381190741;dub;sleep is for the weak 344228;1381190801;KRS1;heh yeah until you get old :P 344229;1381190863;dub;lulz don't sleep, the internets sustain us 344230;1381191621;mod6;wat 344231;1381191622;mod6;We should note that in Nock and Hoon, 0 (pronounced “yes”) is true, and 1 (“no”) is false. Why? It’s fresh, it’s different, it’s new. And it’s annoying. And it keeps you on your toes. And it’s also just intuitively right. 344232;1381191637;mod6;umm no. 344233;1381191642;mod6;thats just fuckin wrong 344234;1381191692;kakobrekla;glwt 344235;1381191714;nubbins`;hahaha 344236;1381191722;nubbins`;amazing 344237;1381191722;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 344238;1381191726;mod6;that is the first thing so far that really has bothered me. you don't change something like "1 = true = has a value = something, not nothing" to "1 = false = has no value = not something" just for fun. thats confusing for the sake of being confusing. 344239;1381191747;nubbins`;no, you misunderstand 344240;1381191749;nubbins`;it's fresh 344241;1381191755;mod6;hhaha 344242;1381191763;nubbins`;i only write code in the freshest languages 344243;1381191787;mod6;im trying to determine if this will ever be useful outside of troll land. 344244;1381192019;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 65 @ 0.0041 = 0.2665 BTC [+] 344245;1381192038;mod6;talking to #urbit guys now.. 344246;1381192080;assbot;[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.09 = 0.18 BTC [+] 344247;1381192093;mod6;http://pastebin.com/wXarbrsT 344248;1381192093;ozbot;(17:24) < mod6> anyone care to enlighten me on this: (17:24) < mod6> We should - Pastebin.com 344249;1381192248;kakobrekla;u going poker challange? 344250;1381192258;kakobrekla;doing more than going 344251;1381192312;mod6;kakobrekla: not just yet. got a few other things to work on first. and still need to learn hoon before i can get anywhere. 344252;1381192328;mod6;and so far, its a mindjob. 344253;1381192334;mod6;i think i started a flame war in #urbit btw 344254;1381192339;kakobrekla;lol 344255;1381192414;kakobrekla;seems quiet? 344256;1381192474;mod6;eh, i guess its over lol 344257;1381192631;mod6;this is what the guy said: 344258;1381192633;mod6;http://pastebin.com/M3utNFtA 344259;1381192634;ozbot;(17:30) < mnemnion> truth is true in only one way, but falsehood takes many form - Pastebin.com 344260;1381192773;Vexual;false 344261;1381193056;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 3300 @ 0.0001088 = 0.359 BTC [-] {2} 344262;1381193117;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.01133854 = 0.2268 BTC [-] {6} 344263;1381193118;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2798 @ 0.000133 = 0.3721 BTC [+] 344264;1381193118;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 1.14222222 = 10.28 BTC [-] {2} 344265;1381193178;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.2 = 4.8 BTC [-] 344266;1381193361;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 1.176 = 7.056 BTC [-] {2} 344267;1381193559;mod6;omfg 344268;1381193562;mod6;LOL 344269;1381193580;kakobrekla;i have seen enough. 344270;1381193589;mod6;dude. 344271;1381193605;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.01110019 = 0.2775 BTC [-] {4} 344272;1381193610;mod6;i want to get down to brass-tacks on this one before i waste any more time on it. 344273;1381193622;mod6;and i think its headed deeper and deeper in to trollville 344274;1381193632;kakobrekla;lolk 344275;1381193648;mod6;am i totally wrong / crazy / out-of-my league here? 344276;1381193689;kakobrekla;i think what they have is some jerk off kinda thing 344277;1381193700;mod6;ya 344278;1381193712;mod6;for you guys who wanna see the last little bit here: http://pastebin.com/rfY4PNvu 344279;1381193718;mod6;let me know what you think 344280;1381193727;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 700 @ 0.00126894 = 0.8883 BTC [+] {5} 344281;1381193728;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.47995898 = 2.8798 BTC [+] {2} 344282;1381193738;kakobrekla;doubt anyone cares really 344283;1381193744;kakobrekla;about those idiots 344284;1381194091;dub;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivD92uoBLik 344285;1381194138;dub;speaking of idiots 344286;1381194228;mod6;kakobrekla: yah you might be right... 344287;1381194886;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00083863 = 5.1156 BTC [-] 344288;1381194947;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [BTC-GROWTH] 60 @ 0.0825 = 4.95 BTC [-] 344289;1381195557;assbot;[BTCTC] [B] [CIPHERMINE.B1] 66 @ 0.009699 = 0.6401 BTC [+] 344290;1381197448;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 753 @ 0.000148 = 0.1114 BTC [+] 344291;1381197692;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2366 @ 0.000148 = 0.3502 BTC [+] 344292;1381197753;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 3950 @ 0.0001647 = 0.6506 BTC [+] 344293;1381198363;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 0.1151 BTC [-] 344294;1381199095;assbot;[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 272 @ 0.00118455 = 0.3222 BTC [-] {4} 344295;1381199156;assbot;[BTCTC] [RSM] 133 @ 0.00502971 = 0.669 BTC [+] {5} 344296;1381200535;nubbins`;unsalted kettle-cooked potato chips are amazing 344297;1381200535;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 344298;1381200620;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00084038 = 6.8911 BTC [+] {2} 344299;1381200620;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1248 @ 0.00028845 = 0.36 BTC [+] 344300;1381200910;VanCleef;amazing 344301;1381200910;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 344302;1381200921;VanCleef;classic 344303;1381201013;Vexual;slovakistan! 344304;1381202084;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 30 @ 0.0041 = 0.123 BTC [+] 344305;1381202572;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27304 @ 0.00083716 = 22.8578 BTC [-] {5} 344306;1381202633;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 746 @ 0.00083653 = 0.6241 BTC [-] 344307;1381202694;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1000 @ 0.0001587 = 0.1587 BTC [+] 344308;1381204402;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00083708 = 7.0315 BTC [+] 344309;1381205320;kakobrekla;!jd 344310;1381205320;assbot;Just-Dice stat: 1205 BTC profit, 54.9k BTC invested, 160.14 mio bets, 4.00 mio BTC wagered 344311;1381205845;mod6;;;bc,stats 344312;1381205848;gribble;Current Blocks: 262328 | Current Difficulty: 1.8928124928103292E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 264095 | Next Difficulty In: 1767 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 4 hours, 24 minutes, and 18 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 211274196.225 | Estimated Percent Change: 11.61919 344313;1381206077;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00083892 = 2.0973 BTC [+] {2} 344314;1381206138;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5287 @ 0.00083979 = 4.44 BTC [+] 344315;1381206349;assbot; 344316;1381206349;kakobrekla;!q 4 344317;1381206392;assbot;Quote: http://dpaste.com/1409296/plain/ 344318;1381206392;kakobrekla;!q 4 344319;1381206439;assbot;Quote: http://dpaste.com/1409297/plain/ 344320;1381206439;kakobrekla;!q 10 344321;1381206494;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 115 @ 0.00409 = 0.4704 BTC [-] 344322;1381206559;kakobrekla;ok whatever 344323;1381206586;Vexual;i do so hope the artist mr popescue selects a well fed long hair brunette for his shoot 344324;1381206788;Vexual;inhaling so deeply on her jazzy cigar that several miley cyruses might get severe concussions if they were her 344325;1381206810;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 530 @ 0.0041 = 2.173 BTC [+] 344326;1381207680;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSf--gxk0WU 344327;1381207681;ozbot;Futurecop - Ain't That Fresh!.m4v - YouTube 344328;1381207952;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx-mxcEWqqk 344329;1381207952;ozbot;Damian Marley-Smoke Gets In My Eyes - YouTube 344330;1381208596;assbot;[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.12 BTC [+] 344331;1381209206;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9998 @ 0.00083584 = 8.3567 BTC [-] {4} 344332;1381209371;Vexual;guten morgan smidge 344333;1381209406;smidge;hey vex 344334;1381209413;Vexual;how are you? 344335;1381209432;smidge;fine just got up, you? 344336;1381209443;Vexual;no complain 344337;1381209547;smidge;so whats new today 344338;1381209581;Vexual;getting hotter everyday, i have to keep tipping cold beer into my face just to stay cool 344339;1381209694;Vexual;it must be getting cooler in the northern hemisphere 344340;1381209801;Vexual;you be hitting the saunas soon you dirty pimp 344341;1381209890;Vexual;did you get some of those coint? i know how you love the speculative mining cos 344342;1381210013;Vexual;i dunno if it'll float but im in for a pound 344343;1381210239;Vexual;the 33% ecites and worries me 344344;1381210244;Vexual;*excites 344345;1381210343;Vexual;im guessing that engineer has had his ear at the door of board meetings for years 344346;1381210726;smidge;gotta love the sauna :) 344347;1381210787;Vexual;you germans are so dirty 344348;1381210794;smidge;no i didnt get any 344349;1381210809;smidge;hehe why? sauna isnt dirty at all 344350;1381210825;smidge;nordic countries do this all day 344351;1381210845;Vexual;you havent been to the saunas i have 344352;1381210845;smidge;its like, they do basically everything in there :D 344353;1381210850;smidge;oh lol 344354;1381210870;Vexual;no treally 344355;1381210894;Vexual;i hear things 344356;1381210930;Vexual;you off to work today, or making real money? 344357;1381211122;Vexual;german girls hate me, i put too much inflection im my accent 344358;1381211254;Vexual;gotta love an angri blonde 344359;1381211316;smidge;;) 344360;1381211325;smidge;where are you based? 344361;1381211376;Vexual;asutralia, closer to the equator than most 344362;1381212256;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00083895 = 4.782 BTC [+] {4} 344363;1381212687;Vexual;and while our glamourous beaches are littered with croatian waifs, good luck getting at thinking berliner girl to come and risk envenomation 344364;1381212864;Vexual;they might be chec, i forget 344365;1381212943;Vexual;when are you getting a real job? 344366;1381213091;Vexual;coz ill tell you straight, turning your fund around needs more time at the monitor 344367;1381213102;dexX7;asian overloards are taking over -> http://bbs.btcman.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=3774 344368;1381213232;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1164 @ 0.00084078 = 0.9787 BTC [+] 344369;1381213272;smidge;vex i did not make anything from the fund until now. mgmt fees were fully reinvested. 344370;1381213274;kakobrekla;>Max 3.75Watt per GH/s 344371;1381213277;kakobrekla;lulz 344372;1381213281;Vexual;looks very xt, but maybe time to extort the extorter 344373;1381213356;Vexual;trollin iz trollin till you cal lthe copz 344374;1381213593;Vexual;yay for coal 344375;1381213723;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDoSbyGBmy4 344376;1381213724;ozbot;Depeche Mode - All That's Mine - YouTube 344377;1381213966;Vexual;whos got dox, i fancy chinese 344378;1381214025;assbot;[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 11 @ 0.1 = 1.1 BTC [-] 344379;1381214086;assbot;[BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 144 @ 0.00122001 = 0.1757 BTC [-] {2} 344380;1381214238;Vexual;funny, id probably get wiped out just going to taipei for a meal 344381;1381214330;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4450 @ 0.00083783 = 3.7283 BTC [-] 344382;1381214351;Vexual;http://www.chengdubeer.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/China-Beer-Nation.jpg 344383;1381214378;Vexual;and i sold you the barley in the first place 344384;1381214394;Vexual;irony doent work in china 344385;1381214498;Vexual;meanwhile mp is taking photographs of models with no clothes 344386;1381214603;Vexual;he never bluffs, just so you know you're losing by default 344387;1381214633;Vexual;what a cunt 344388;1381214879;assbot;[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 13 @ 0.1 = 1.3 BTC [-] 344389;1381215005;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKw5mBh4rYs 344390;1381215027;ozbot;ODB - Baby, I got your money [*original uncencored video*] - YouTube 344391;1381215184;assbot;[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 7 @ 0.0422 = 0.2954 BTC [-] {2} 344392;1381215306;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1300 @ 0.0001498 = 0.1947 BTC [-] 344393;1381215367;assbot;[BTCTC] [KENILWORTH] 850 @ 0.0007001 = 0.5951 BTC [-] {2} 344394;1381215380;Vexual;hey smidge its all good bro, you just need to go full time on that shit 344395;1381215559;Vexual;start paying divs on the chain and float that shit 344396;1381215581;kakobrekla;O_o 344397;1381215733;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5750 @ 0.0008356 = 4.8047 BTC [-] 344398;1381215855;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 250 @ 0.0008356 = 0.2089 BTC [-] 344399;1381215868;Vexual;http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1zphy_alex-gaudino-destination-unknown-ca_music 344400;1381215868;ozbot;Alex Gaudino - Destination Unknown (Calabria 2007) - Film Dailymotion 344401;1381216063;Vexual;bonjor miseur pimp 344402;1381216166;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KCBLA-fuVw 344403;1381216166;ozbot;Snoop Dogg & Wiz Khalifa "French Inhale" - YouTube 344404;1381216171;Vexual;how did shoot go? 344405;1381216306;mircea_popescu;lolwut 344406;1381216340;Vexual;you werent taking photos of naked aldies just now? 344407;1381216379;mircea_popescu;nope. 344408;1381216437;mircea_popescu;who shoots naked ladies at 10 in the am. 344409;1381216454;Vexual;good light\ 344410;1381216473;mircea_popescu;tired girls. 344411;1381216515;Vexual;if you ever want to go to prn movies, call me for the twisted lines 344412;1381216551;Vexual;you know ive got the line beween reality and fantasy that teh people want 344413;1381216635;mircea_popescu;lolk 344414;1381216788;Vexual;gimme 20 for actresses and 10k for sets, you hold the camera and do sales 344415;1381216832;Vexual;ill have lezzo gagging for dick 344416;1381216874;Vexual;best movie ever, only available for bitcoin 344417;1381216970;Vexual;forbes and bloomberg 344418;1381217061;Vexual;c'mon 344419;1381217096;Vexual;you hear the press saying , new tech wheres the porn 344420;1381217868;assbot;[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 21 @ 0.17 = 3.57 BTC [+] 344421;1381218061;Vexual;ill hold ethe camera and so sales 344422;1381219166;Vexual;if you dont get it by now, the omissions are more important than the inclusions. 344423;1381219170;Vexual;welcome back 344424;1381219244;mircea_popescu;that was... odd. 344425;1381219576;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7489 @ 0.00084211 = 6.3066 BTC [+] {3} 344426;1381219881;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 31 @ 0.01199999 = 0.372 BTC [-] 344427;1381222359;VanCleef;Today Tonight @TodayTonight 344428;1381222361;VanCleef;What is #Bitcoin? Did you know you can pay for drinks and food with #bitcoins in #Australia now? 344429;1381222371;VanCleef;wrong room 344430;1381223234;mircea_popescu;"The fact that we are here today to debate raising Americas debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government cant pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Governments reckless fiscal policies." 344431;1381223247;mircea_popescu;obama is like... having a moment of clarity ? 344432;1381223259;mircea_popescu;in... 2006. 344433;1381223419;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.153 BTC [-] 344434;1381224090;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00084241 = 4.8017 BTC [+] {3} 344435;1381224456;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.152 = 2.304 BTC [-] 344436;1381224517;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.152 = 2.304 BTC [-] 344437;1381224639;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 32594 @ 0.00014954 = 4.8741 BTC [+] {6} 344438;1381227490;Ogedei;btctc hasnt closed trading yet? 344439;1381227811;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2928 @ 0.00083957 = 2.4583 BTC [-] 344440;1381227811;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 183 @ 0.0041 = 0.7503 BTC [+] 344441;1381227933;assbot;[BTCTC] [KENILWORTH] 150 @ 0.0007211 = 0.1082 BTC [+] 344442;1381228055;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1000 @ 0.00013 = 0.13 BTC [-] 344443;1381228154;virtuals;Ogedei, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=125629.msg3296116#msg3296116 344444;1381228543;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7384 @ 0.00084437 = 6.2348 BTC [+] 344445;1381228726;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 1344 @ 0.004 = 5.376 BTC [-] 344446;1381228909;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 3937 @ 0.00126978 = 4.9991 BTC [+] {2} 344447;1381229519;assbot;[BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 39 @ 0.45002563 = 17.551 BTC [+] {4} 344448;1381229580;assbot;[BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 73 @ 0.41 = 29.93 BTC [-] 344449;1381231654;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 4576 @ 0.0001301 = 0.5953 BTC [-] 344450;1381231776;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 10 @ 0.1166 = 1.166 BTC [+] {3} 344451;1381232020;assbot;[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 82131 @ 0.00017633 = 14.4822 BTC [+] {9} 344452;1381232691;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.00084194 = 6.2304 BTC [-] {2} 344453;1381232715;bitesak;the show must go on ! 344454;1381233179;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [COG.F2] 1 @ 1 BTC [-] 344455;1381233423;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 70 @ 0.01198714 = 0.8391 BTC [-] {2} 344456;1381233424;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 685 @ 0.00296149 = 2.0286 BTC [+] {4} 344457;1381233484;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 275 @ 0.002977 = 0.8187 BTC [+] 344458;1381233606;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69348300 BTC to 1`386`966 shares, 50 satoshi per share 344459;1381233789;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10150 @ 0.00084441 = 8.5708 BTC [+] {2} 344460;1381233972;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.00297799 = 2.978 BTC [+] 344461;1381234033;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2122 @ 0.00298494 = 6.334 BTC [+] {3} 344462;1381234094;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 243 @ 0.00299998 = 0.729 BTC [+] 344463;1381234718;jurov;http://i.imgur.com/xSOW1NG.jpg meh. 344464;1381234998;mircea_popescu;meh is right. 344465;1381235004;pankkake;if you select the right timeframe you can probably make this graph show very different stuff 344466;1381235015;pankkake;also, no legends. lol 344467;1381235030;mircea_popescu;no, there's legends. btc supposedly made 800% while the rest of the stuff 30 344468;1381235044;mircea_popescu;fior that matter if you take 1 year it goes from 5 to 130, ie, 6000% 344469;1381235097;pankkake;well, I guessed it was a %, but still 344470;1381235111;pankkake;that () instead of - is weird, though I remember seing it elsewhere 344471;1381235113;mircea_popescu;it's trhere on the left 344472;1381235135;pankkake;no, there's the number, but it doesn't say what it is 344473;1381235144;pankkake;but most importantly, no dates 344474;1381235155;mircea_popescu;() means negative. always has. 344475;1381235157;pankkake;you could probably show bitcoin doing -50% 344476;1381235170;pankkake;it's ugly 344477;1381235619;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4488 @ 0.0008446 = 3.7906 BTC [+] {3} 344478;1381235733;pankkake;http://bitbet.us/bet/491/the-winklevoss-bitcoin-etf-to-be-open-for/#c1571 lol 344479;1381235735;ozbot;BitBet - The Winklevoss Bitcoin ETF to be open for public investment before December 1st 2013 344480;1381236107;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00084637 = 4.1472 BTC [+] {2} 344481;1381236136;pankkake;!jd 344482;1381236136;assbot;Just-Dice stat: 1290 BTC profit, 55.2k BTC invested, 161.06 mio bets, 4.00 mio BTC wagered 344483;1381236845;pankkake;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=264696.msg3298572#msg3298572 344484;1381236847;ozbot;[BTCT.CO] [IPO-cancelled] BTCGARDEN MINER---Eyes to the horizon 344485;1381237200;Rulother;They're still developing? 344486;1381237327;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.0008362 = 7.1077 BTC [-] {2} 344487;1381237329;pankkake;they did it without the ipo as they said 344488;1381237348;ThickAsThieves;the IPO was a stunt 344489;1381237962;Rulother;So Garden 1 Labcoin -1 344490;1381238425;assbot;[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.03737 = 0.1869 BTC [+] 344491;1381238763;ThickAsThieves;http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-24443216 344492;1381238764;ozbot;BBC News - Four UK men arrested over Silk Road links 344493;1381238803;VanCleef;sucks to be them 344494;1381240890;LorenzoMoneyOFC;When I first fiscovered SR, I thought to myself, "Self, what are the inherent dangers in buying or selling anything on SR?" so I didnt 344495;1381240975;VanCleef;waiting for a swat team to rape my asshole 344496;1381241051;pankkake;if you used PGP in all messages I fail to see how you could get caught 344497;1381241062;pankkake;even as a seller 344498;1381241146;Lennix;anything one should know why trading on btct is still possible? 344499;1381241180;Diablo-D3;http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-24443216 344500;1381241181;ozbot;BBC News - Four UK men arrested over Silk Road links 344501;1381241186;pankkake;extended because of the technical issues of yesterday 344502;1381241190;Diablo-D3;maybe one of them was nefario 344503;1381241208;Lennix;for 24h or whats the deal? 344504;1381241218;pankkake;24h I guess 344505;1381241275;Lennix;ah burnside wrote it on the forums 344506;1381241719;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6854 @ 0.00084247 = 5.7743 BTC [+] 344507;1381241841;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.145 BTC [-] 344508;1381242451;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.002999 = 0.2999 BTC [-] 344509;1381242573;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.145 BTC [-] 344510;1381242806;pankkake;hmm, I thought sending shares to the issuer on btctc would share the oustanding/issued 344511;1381242821;pankkake;or is it cached? 344512;1381243605;bitesak;http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/10/07/truckers-for-the-constitution-plan-to-slow-dc-beltway-arrest-congressmen 344513;1381243605;ozbot;'Truckers for the Constitution' Plan to Slow D.C. Beltway, Arrest Congressmen - US News and World Re 344514;1381243854;assbot;[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 176 @ 0.00069989 = 0.1232 BTC [+] {3} 344515;1381244013;Rulother;Arrest congressmen? 344516;1381244070;Scrat;murca 344517;1381244075;kleeck;lol: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1D7J5YygEoM 344518;1381244078;Scrat;amazing country 344519;1381244078;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 344520;1381244094;Rulother;amazing 344521;1381244094;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 344522;1381244098;Rulother;There we go 344523;1381244126;Rulother;Anywho misleading title. And screw causing a slow down, that traffic for other people too 344524;1381244131;Rulother;So piss off with that 344525;1381244162;Rulother;I would be so mad if I knew a group of people were purposely going to cause traffic in my area for a fucking protest 344526;1381244175;Rulother;"Screw you man I'm trying to get to work" 344527;1381244403;assbot;[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 22 @ 1.126 = 24.772 BTC [-] {4} 344528;1381244444;LorenzoMoneyOFC;I would be so mad if politicians stopped governmental porocess for stupid reasons 344529;1381244447;LorenzoMoneyOFC;oh yeah.... 344530;1381244830;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [BTC-GROWTH] 7 @ 0.083 = 0.581 BTC [+] 344531;1381244891;assbot;[BTCTC] [FN] [BTC-GROWTH] 14 @ 0.083 = 1.162 BTC [+] 344532;1381245729;jurov;http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/elements/2013/10/how-lavabit-edward-snowden-email-service-melted-down.html 344533;1381245729;ozbot;How Lavabit Melted Down : The New Yorker 344534;1381246111;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3150 @ 0.00084247 = 2.6538 BTC [+] 344535;1381246171;pankkake;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=307813.0 wat 344536;1381246172;ozbot;A Call To Reason 344537;1381246294;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.1337 = 0.4011 BTC [+] 344538;1381246386;Rulother;btct is done 344539;1381246430;pankkake;cool, I still had the time to buy one labcoin share for the lulz 344540;1381246480;pankkake;actually, I am the last labcoin trade. so much win! 344541;1381247087;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SMG] 2485 @ 0.0002299 = 0.5713 BTC [+] 344542;1381247529;Rulother;Probably last one ever 344543;1381247697;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6850 @ 0.00084553 = 5.7919 BTC [+] {4} 344544;1381249284;ThickAsThieves;http://www.futureblock.com/ 344545;1381249285;ozbot;Future Block | Bet on the Bitcoin Hash Rate 344546;1381249410;pankkake;so it's on only 24h?! 344547;1381249463;pankkake;hm no 36 344548;1381249483;pankkake;no 48, but bets open on 36 344549;1381249506;pankkake;no 344550;1381249509;pankkake;ok I shup up 344551;1381249566;pankkake;bet on hashrate in 24h, bets open for 12h 344552;1381249710;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 64 @ 1.27530467 = 81.6195 BTC [+] {4} 344553;1381249771;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 1.27999999 = 15.36 BTC [+] {3} 344554;1381251784;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4693 @ 0.00084235 = 3.9531 BTC [-] 344555;1381253085;KRS-1;this is boring..somebody do something. 344556;1381253126;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 1.121 = 2.242 BTC [-] {2} 344557;1381254595;jborkl;and another one goes poof http://forum.kncminer.com/forum/main-category/hardware/5267-unit-s-catching-fire/page3 344558;1381254597;jborkl;fire fire 344559;1381254651;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 24 @ 1.27 = 30.48 BTC [+] {2} 344560;1381254777;jborkl;http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2ci7d4h&s=5#.UlRGY1CUS4k 344561;1381254778;ozbot;Image - TinyPic - Free Image Hosting, Photo Sharing & Video Hosting 344562;1381254908;KRS-1;are these consumer's machines or their demos? 344563;1381254933;jborkl;I have seen 4 pics of consumer machines 344564;1381254940;KRS-1;what I got from BFL has been very reliable so far and just what i expected..a year and 2 months ago. 344565;1381254944;KRS-1;ouch 344566;1381254993;jborkl;at this rate, we only have to wait another week for all of them to blow 344567;1381255025;KRS-1;yeah..thats gonna be painful for knc and customers alike 344568;1381255035;jborkl;Well, they named the new smaller machine 344569;1381255049;jborkl;so the line up is Saturn, Jupiter and Uranus 344570;1381255053;KRS-1;thats why i hate being first with technology 344571;1381255094;kakobrekla;yeah but here, first batch customers will roi in a month, second batch - never. 344572;1381255139;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6709 @ 0.0008419 = 5.6483 BTC [-] {2} 344573;1381255141;jborkl;I heard you will be able to overclock Uranus 344574;1381255161;jborkl;there is a probing spot 344575;1381255183;kakobrekla;my anus? 344576;1381255188;kakobrekla;yeah it has a probing spot. 344577;1381255199;kakobrekla;alien probing. 344578;1381255213;KRS-1;Saturn and Jupiter shall circle Uranus and search for Klingons. 344579;1381255238;kakobrekla;yeah they acctually hash KLI256 344580;1381255262;pankkake;I wouldn't want that thing to explode in my anus :/ 344581;1381255265;jborkl;Well, I certainly hope Uranus does not catch fire 344582;1381255281;kakobrekla;oh 344583;1381255315;kakobrekla;i thought all bitcoiners wanted all other participants dead 344584;1381255332;kakobrekla;hence seding them bombs instead of miners 344585;1381255340;jborkl;lol, true 344586;1381255362;jborkl;butt maybe only catching fire to one anus is better 344587;1381255450;kakobrekla;i suspect they installed wrong blowup fuses 344588;1381255461;kakobrekla;those things should fry after warranty is over 344589;1381255485;jborkl;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=76.0 344590;1381255487;ozbot;Custom hardware 344591;1381255541;kakobrekla;should be just Urectum, much cleaner. 344592;1381255698;jborkl;Well, Uranus will produce 195GH 344593;1381255712;jborkl;minus 16% errors 344594;1381256054;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 1.32 = 13.2 BTC [+] 344595;1381256176;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 15 @ 1.32 = 19.8 BTC [+] 344596;1381257018;pankkake;http://mulliganmint.com/just-saying-bitcoin-is-like-saying-bomb-on-an-airplane/ 344597;1381257019;ozbot;Just saying Bitcoin is like saying bomb on an airplane | Mulligan Mint Inc 344598;1381257200;kleeck;LOL: No one at Mulligan Mint was dragged into a storage room and questioned by Robert DeNiro. But Capital One did immediately shut down our merchant account to process credit card orders. Apparently, someone at the bank saw the word “Bitcoin” and didn’t bother to read the product description or any of our blogs about the coin. 344599;1381257509;deadweasel;;;ticker 344600;1381257510;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 137.04000, Best ask: 137.49992, Bid-ask spread: 0.45992, Last trade: 137.04000, 24 hour volume: 3421.16545433, 24 hour low: 135.66000, 24 hour high: 137.89999, 24 hour vwap: 136.52242 344601;1381257718;jborkl;forum people did not get my Uranus joke 344602;1381257726;jborkl;:/ they took it serious 344603;1381257967;jcpham;http://www.futureblock.com/ 344604;1381257968;ozbot;Future Block | Bet on the Bitcoin Hash Rate 344605;1381258024;mike_c;TAT posted that before. is he running it? 344606;1381258049;jcpham;shrug 344607;1381258190;ThickAsThieves;No I'm not running it 344608;1381258209;ThickAsThieves;just thought it was decent 344609;1381258212;ThickAsThieves;and shared 344610;1381258222;jborkl;I like it 344611;1381258355;mike_c;better designed than most btc sites 344612;1381258359;mike_c;visually 344613;1381258440;jcpham;TAT blamed for everything 344614;1381258512;jborkl;well, do you think the DDOS will continue for the next 12 hours =yes 344615;1381258520;jborkl;I win, gimme 344616;1381258738;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3381 @ 0.00084075 = 2.8426 BTC [-] {3} 344617;1381258982;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4837 @ 0.00083931 = 4.0597 BTC [-] 344618;1381259958;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00084265 = 4.6346 BTC [+] 344619;1381263191;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 94 @ 0.00299998 = 0.282 BTC [+] 344620;1381263374;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00084601 = 2.0304 BTC [+] 344621;1381263435;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.00084376 = 3.4172 BTC [-] 344622;1381263955;mod6;;;tslb 344623;1381263957;gribble;Time since last block: 26 minutes and 38 seconds 344624;1381264524;Jere_Jones;ThickAsThieves: Gotchyer ears on? 344625;1381264922;pankkake;bitfunder is the next one, already 344626;1381264956;ThickAsThieves;jere? 344627;1381264978;Jere_Jones;It appears as if I'm about to be banned from Bitfunder. 344628;1381264994;kakobrekla;lol why? 344629;1381264999;Jere_Jones;Having commited the crime of being a US citizen. 344630;1381265009;ThickAsThieves;************* 344631;1381265011;ThickAsThieves;Important Notice (October 8th, 2013): 344632;1381265011;ThickAsThieves;Please be advised that BitFunder is implementing the following rules and procedures: 344633;1381265011;ThickAsThieves;As of October 8th, 2013, BitFunder will not accept new registrations from any United States persons or entities. All new registrants must supply the information required to obtain "Verified" status on their linked WeExchange account. BitFunder may, in its sole direction, decline to accept any new registrations. 344634;1381265011;ThickAsThieves;As of October 8th, 2013, all current BitFunder users who are located in the United States or are determined to be United States persons or entities will not be able to enter into any new positions on the Bitfunder website, and, as of November 1, 2013, such users will also not be allowed to sell positions on the BitFunder website. 344635;1381265011;ThickAsThieves;All current BitFunder users who are not United States persons or entities must supply the information required to obtain "Verified" status on their linked WeExchange account before November 1, 2013. Any such users who fail to provide the necessary information will not be able to enter into or sell positions on the BitFunder website as of November 1, 2013. 344636;1381265012;ThickAsThieves;Users will be able to withdraw holdings and Bitcoins from their BitFunder accounts before and after November 1, 2013. 344637;1381265012;ThickAsThieves;All assets and issuers must demonstrate that they meet BitFunder's requirements for the listing of assets, or the assets and issuers will, at BitFunder's sole discretion, be denied access to, or removed from, the site. Issuers will be notified of any additional information needed to demonstrate compliance with BitFunder's requirements. 344638;1381265013;ThickAsThieves;BitFunder appreciates your understanding in these matters as we move forward. 344639;1381265013;ThickAsThieves;Sincerely, 344640;1381265014;ThickAsThieves;BitFunder 344641;1381265014;ThickAsThieves;*************** 344642;1381265024;Jere_Jones;Truthfully, I understand why they're doing that. Times like this make me sad. Oh well. 344643;1381265045;Jere_Jones;Anyway, I'm reaching out to you because I just noticed my NEOBEE shares hit Bitfunder today (or yesterday?) 344644;1381265064;Jere_Jones;Any chance you can waive the 1btc fee to transfer them to havelock? 344645;1381265092;kakobrekla;and then what next week youll be moving from havelock to mpex? 344646;1381265099;ThickAsThieves;sigh 344647;1381265109;assbot;Quote: http://dpaste.com/1410140/plain/ 344648;1381265109;kakobrekla;!q 5 344649;1381265153;Jere_Jones;"No" is an acceptable answer. 344650;1381265176;Jere_Jones;I have no plans to sell them so maybe keeping them on Bitfunder will be good for security. No one could hack my account and sell them. :) 344651;1381265185;Jere_Jones;I just thought I'd ask. 344652;1381265215;ThickAsThieves;I think you shoujld wait 344653;1381265220;ThickAsThieves;as this is a larger issue 344654;1381265233;Jere_Jones;Can you elaborate? 344655;1381265252;ThickAsThieves;you are one of many with this problem 344656;1381265261;ThickAsThieves;and this is a problem for Neo itself 344657;1381265282;ThickAsThieves;one that Neo will likely need/want to weigh in on 344658;1381265288;ThickAsThieves;or make plans around 344659;1381265289;Jere_Jones;I *really* hope this doesn't interfere with their execution. 344660;1381265302;ThickAsThieves;I don't see why it would 344661;1381265336;kakobrekla;maybe CheckDavid will save us with his exchange! 344662;1381265341;ThickAsThieves;the irony here being that I planned to take mp aside to discuss the possibility of such things BEFORE they happened... 344663;1381265355;kakobrekla;or that cipher chick. 344664;1381265367;ThickAsThieves;of course I have no idea whether mp has any interest in hosting anything from me 344665;1381265387;ThickAsThieves;incuding Neo, and whether Neo would wnat to consider such movement either 344666;1381265390;Jere_Jones;I'm not sure I'd care to pay the 30BTC fee to have an account on MPEx. 344667;1381265399;Jere_Jones;Or whatever it is now. 344668;1381265414;ThickAsThieves;let's not jump ahead anyway 344669;1381265435;Jere_Jones;Fair enough. I shall wait and see. 344670;1381265435;ThickAsThieves;i operate unde rthe assumption mp doesnt want any "play" assets from play exchanges anyway 344671;1381266212;CheckDavid;kakobrekla, lol 344672;1381266242;ThickAsThieves;I haven't actually migrated anyone from BTCT to BF yet 344673;1381266250;ThickAsThieves;only processed their data 344674;1381266446;jurov;Jere_Jones: if mpex happens, you are welcome on coinbr 344675;1381266474;jcpham;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAtVJzb65hQ 344676;1381266475;ozbot;Hitler finds out MtGox still haven't implemented Litecoin - YouTube 344677;1381266958;Lennix;TAT, I remember correctly that you are no US citizen? 344678;1381266975;pankkake;he is from the internets 344679;1381266981;Lennix;thank god 344680;1381267015;Jere_Jones;I'm not familiar with coinbr 344681;1381267050;Jere_Jones;I may just start my own exchange. With blackjack and hookers. 344682;1381267156;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 99 @ 0.00299998 = 0.297 BTC [+] 344683;1381267157;jurov;i can help you familiarize :) 344684;1381267222;Jere_Jones;I was just looking over it. I find the monthly fee... prohibitive. I'm sure that is perfectly acceptable for an active trader. 344685;1381267251;Jere_Jones;I'm not an active trader. I tend to buy and hold and (hopefully) collect dividends. 344686;1381267294;pankkake;http://shadowlife.cc/2013/10/tracking-the-silk-road-lessons-for-darknet-services/ 344687;1381267296;ozbot;Tracking the Silk Road – Lessons for darknet services « Shadow Life 344688;1381267325;jurov;so, you expect dividends not much bigger than 0.09 BTC? 344689;1381267382;Jere_Jones;A rich man, I am not. 344690;1381267388;ThickAsThieves;I am a US citizen 344691;1381267402;Jere_Jones;I'm just a programmer that loves bitcoin. 344692;1381267428;ThickAsThieves;if i were not married i'd have left long ago 344693;1381267448;Jere_Jones;My wife and I were just discussing moving back to Spain. 344694;1381267476;Jere_Jones;That or Peru. 344695;1381268063;Jere_Jones;Hmmm... 0.09 BTC is what only 3 shares of AM would spit out. 344696;1381268142;Jere_Jones;The fee doesn't sound that bad in that context. 344697;1381268158;ThickAsThieves;I hold peanuts in my CoinBr account but I keep it open, 344698;1381268167;ThickAsThieves;i like to support jurov, 344699;1381268179;ThickAsThieves;and i know as soon as i close it, i'll need it again 344700;1381268224;jurov;closing coinbr accounts is not supported anyway :D 344701;1381268241;ThickAsThieves;they just accumulate debt? hehehe 344702;1381268269;jurov;no, if you sell/withdraw everything then no monthly fee is asked 344703;1381268274;ThickAsThieves;ah i see 344704;1381268282;ThickAsThieves;neat 344705;1381269413;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 35 @ 0.0029 = 0.1015 BTC [-] 344706;1381270106;dub;jurov: that reminds me, whats teh grace period for funding a negative account? 344707;1381270134;jurov;7 years 344708;1381270151;dub;harsh but fair 344709;1381270153;dub;thanks 344710;1381270158;jurov;but seriously, it was not even decided yet 344711;1381270177;jurov;why 7y would be harsh? 344712;1381270187;dub;cool cool, just checking I wont get punted or have stuff liquidated to cover 344713;1381270195;dub;its not harsh 344714;1381270267;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 51 @ 0.00600019 = 0.306 BTC [-] {2} 344715;1381270281;jurov;we did not yet even consider asking interest on them :) 344716;1381270363;dub;that would probably be acceptable 344717;1381270389;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 6592 @ 0.0003 = 1.9776 BTC [-] 344718;1381270410;dub;9000% compounding bisecondly 344719;1381270737;jurov;lol... having 0.1 withdrawal fee is enough. but that one will likely change as bitcoin goes up 344720;1381270816;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 480 @ 0.00084376 = 0.405 BTC [-] 344721;1381270839;thestringpuller;http://www.futureblock.com/ - anyone seen this yet? 344722;1381270840;ozbot;Future Block | Bet on the Bitcoin Hash Rate 344723;1381271241;dub;20% fee wat 344724;1381271271;dexX7;*15.76 % but woah 344725;1381271302;dexX7;but it looks very nice 344726;1381271548;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00084478 = 2.9567 BTC [+] 344727;1381271645;mike_c;fee high because bet is almost over 344728;1381271648;mike_c;starts at 0 344729;1381271655;dexX7;ah i see 344730;1381271933;dub;yeah looks nice until you find out alberto is running it 344731;1381271945;kakobrekla;lol 344732;1381272145;thestringpuller;lol who is alberto? 344733;1381272150;thestringpuller;is that the bitcoindaytrade guy? 344734;1381272166;dub;yep, and labcoin apparently 344735;1381272166;kakobrekla;bdt/rebate/labcoin scammer 344736;1381272177;dub;dont forget bitscalper 344737;1381272180;pankkake;rebate? 344738;1381272206;pankkake;also zenpad 344739;1381272219;jurov;http://www.reddit.com/user/locksley announced it, doesn't look like alberto 344740;1381272280;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2550 @ 0.00084792 = 2.1622 BTC [+] 344741;1381272286;kakobrekla;and kronos.io 344742;1381272323;jurov;and weed price analysis :) http://www.thepricegeek.com/blog/2013/08/22/market-price-of-drugs-on-silk-road/ 344743;1381272359;dexX7;lol that's cool 344744;1381272683;thestringpuller;smoke dem nugz 344745;1381273298;phish;.d 344746;1381273298;ozbot;189281249.28103 | Next Diff in 1641 blocks | Estimated Change: 10.3433% in 10d 5h 9m 2s 344747;1381273755;mircea_popescu;what's new? 344748;1381273824;mircea_popescu;jborkl interesting. 344749;1381273981;mod6;so i kinda thought Cody Wilson was awesome until he teamed up with Taaki 344750;1381273984;mod6;http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/25/4769916/3d-printed-gun-maker-cody-wilson-to-launch-bitcoin-dark-wallet 344751;1381273985;ozbot;3D-printed gun maker to launch Bitcoin wallet next | The Verge 344752;1381274051;mircea_popescu; the irony here being that I planned to take mp aside to discuss the possibility of such things BEFORE they happened... << don't worry, it's how it works. I had made plans back in january and announced ppl about my conference last year, so as to make it BEFORE BTCprice went up. scheduled it for april, asshole btc went up in march. 344753;1381274074;mircea_popescu; I'm not sure I'd care to pay the 30BTC fee to have an account on MPEx. << yuou can just use a borker. 344754;1381274152;mircea_popescu;mod6 you know... peopel announcing other people teamed up with them is scarcely usavble to impugn those other people. 344755;1381274171;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 500 @ 0.00028 = 0.14 BTC [-] {4} 344756;1381274177;jurov;:D 344757;1381274181;mircea_popescu;lol 344758;1381274260;mircea_popescu;so i use some random online service. it does w/e well. i shoot the guy an email asking for his bitcoin addy because i want to send him some cents as encouragement. 344759;1381274268;mircea_popescu;guy responds with gushing email and his bitcoin addy. 344760;1381274271;mircea_popescu;inception. 344761;1381275124;mod6;well, in regard to the insult ladder: http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=6 :: I wish that the foundation didn't have such a presence so someone better might have gotten involved with Wilson. 344762;1381275127;dexX7;http://i.imgur.com/y3NN6bg.png poor poor rentalstarter 344763;1381275199;mod6;oh maybe he wasnt with the foundation, just the 'bitcoin consultancy' or whatever. 344764;1381275208;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 11085 @ 0.00025658 = 2.8442 BTC [-] {10} 344765;1381275393;mod6;oh and intersango. of course. 344766;1381275452;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5000 @ 0.00024962 = 1.2481 BTC [-] {2} 344767;1381275488;mod6;http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewgpg.php?nick=genjix 344768;1381275489;ozbot;#bitcoin-otc gpg key data 344769;1381275507;mod6;haha, bitcoinica too i guess. 344770;1381275513;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 15 @ 0.01119474 = 0.1679 BTC [-] {3} 344771;1381275574;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 41 @ 0.01111246 = 0.4556 BTC [-] {3} 344772;1381275614;mircea_popescu;mod6 taaki has anything to do with foundation now ?! 344773;1381275656;mod6;no, at least, not that i know of. an error on my part. the 'bitcoin consultancy' 344774;1381275661;mod6;unless that means the same thing 344775;1381275696;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 229 @ 0.00126978 = 0.2908 BTC [+] 344776;1381275858;nubbins`;hi 344777;1381275871;nubbins`;lel @ bitfunder 344778;1381275970;Lennix1;hey TAT, given the current situation, you might think about offering those who are transferring their shares to BF to change their destination to HL 344779;1381276184;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3145 @ 0.00084478 = 2.6568 BTC [-] 344780;1381276203;mircea_popescu;it'd seem ThickAsThieves gets his first real taste of bitcoin business sudden rush of wtfomg these days. 344781;1381276245;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 25 @ 0.00748959 = 0.1872 BTC [+] {2} 344782;1381276733;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 10 @ 0.01236989 = 0.1237 BTC [+] 344783;1381276758;dexX7;maybe this is a good time to build a proper frontend for mpex 344784;1381276822;mircea_popescu;in bootstrap ? 344785;1381276839;dexX7;lol 344786;1381276887;dexX7;yes, and highcharts *sarcasm_off* 344787;1381276907;mircea_popescu;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xt4QeltSKL8 344788;1381276908;ozbot;Trailer Porno Romanesc.avi - YouTube 344789;1381277017;dexX7;i bet it's funnier, if you understand what they say 344790;1381277039;pankkake;I like the mcxnow charts 344791;1381277039;mircea_popescu;they get to bad english towards the end 344792;1381277046;pankkake;oh it seems to be highcharts too 344793;1381277081;pankkake;I don't think I know any romanian pornstar 344794;1381277087;mircea_popescu;yeah, you do. 344795;1381277093;nubbins`;lel 344796;1381277107;pankkake;female 344797;1381277119;mircea_popescu;yes female. 344798;1381277139;pankkake;ah yes, forgot Mircea is a girl's name 344799;1381277152;mircea_popescu;lol 344800;1381277215;mircea_popescu;;;google steve holmes alice romain 344801;1381277216;gribble;Alice Romain sister to Sandra | Adult DVD Talk Forum | Porn Fan ...: ; Steve Holmes - Free Porn, Porn Tube, Free Porn Videos, Amateur ...: ; Sandra Romains Little Sister Does her First Porn Ever: This mail was sent your account. FBI Shuts Down 'Silk Road' Online Now Bitcointallk.org Warning Situation Your donation can support this https://bitcointalk.org Now that this news is true we need the help of people who are willing to help us with your donation, you can do this and to support our staff at a time that is happening now, we are in need during the donation and therefore call and ask for help much as you can for technical updat 345315;1381292909;kakobrekla;> improvements to our Projects and support the future of Scene Bitcoin Bitcoin: 1YiyQPSR656jLZAU7oEnpcxBZTvAFU8uU Litecoin: LfDKcZHUuQKrr14pt5iBuPnsWRUiFcSzYo if you send just 0.1 or some btc to wallet you very help us Your donation can support this peace thanx for sent your btc 345316;1381292975;dub;loool 345317;1381293027;dub;sad part is if these fucks could find someone that speaks english that shit would probably yield with 80% of the forum tards 345318;1381293121;Namworld;Any scam mails would yield like 100x better results if proper English was used... 345319;1381293162;Namworld;I guess illiteracy and staying poor goes hand in hand. 345320;1381293165;CopperWireBeard;You no right! 345321;1381293720;nubbins`;;;later tell mircea_popescu check your email when you get a chance; further evidence as to why i leave the artwork to others ;( 345322;1381293720;gribble;The operation succeeded. 345323;1381293741;nubbins`;oh hey a new personal message from the bitcointalk.org forums! 345324;1381293747;nubbins`;i better get some btc ready to send 345325;1381293965;nubbins`;oh, it was actually a legit message, now i feel silly 345326;1381294575;KRS1;Idk scammers from Nigeria do rather well. 345327;1381294604;KRS1;and they're actually quite pleasant and polite. Can't say the same for those form Somalia. 345328;1381294710;kakobrekla;yeah those are snakes! 345329;1381294789;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00084793 = 2.7982 BTC [+] {2} 345330;1381294829;nubbins`;time for bed! 345331;1381295730;Diablo-D3;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130117.msg3302045#msg3302045 345332;1381295732;ozbot;[BitFunder] Asset Exchange Marketplace + Rewritable Options Trading 345333;1381295738;Diablo-D3;can someone tell me where hes quoting that from? 345334;1381295844;Diablo-D3;oh I found it 345335;1381295848;Diablo-D3;its actually on the damned website 345336;1381296151;dub;I like how theymos hasn't mentioned the hack or recommended changing passwords in any comms to users 345337;1381296176;dub;dude is a stand up guy 345338;1381296192;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 1.135 = 2.27 BTC [-] {2} 345339;1381296879;mod6;well if he doesn't mention it, i guess it never happened. 345340;1381296971;Diablo-D3;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77469.msg3304465#msg3304465 345341;1381296972;ozbot;[BitFunder] Diablo Mining Company [shifting gears] 345342;1381297778;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00084451 = 5.8271 BTC [-] 345343;1381298210;Diablo-D3;dub: because there wasnt a hack 345344;1381298214;Maraneth;Hello 345345;1381298215;Diablo-D3;it was just government interference 345346;1381298327;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00083952 = 5.7087 BTC [-] {2} 345347;1381298376;Maraneth;Does anyone know how to change passthrough shares into direct shares? 345348;1381298815;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 766 @ 0.00083949 = 0.643 BTC [-] 345349;1381299667;dub;Diablo-D3: wat 345350;1381300060;Namworld;Void? What about the holdings? You can't pocket them for yourself. 345351;1381300459;Namworld;This logic is flawed. Any entity wishing to comply to regulations should attempt to close properly. Which certainly doesn't entail voiding existing contracts and pocketing assets. That may only hurt your plans. 345352;1381300518;Namworld;Auction assets and do a forced buyback. 345353;1381300531;Namworld;Should be short and expeditive. 345354;1381300737;Namworld;Complying involves typically excluding further investments from non-eligible investors and proper closure. Not voiding and keeping assets. 345355;1381301194;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 400 @ 0.00083921 = 0.3357 BTC [-] 345356;1381301259;Namworld;Isn't your identity known? If you just pocket DMC's assets like that... Not going to look nice. 345357;1381301309;Namworld;That kind of behavior would actually look really bad... 345358;1381301368;dub;what assets? 345359;1381301432;Namworld;Should be around 300 ASICMINER-PT left among others 345360;1381301467;Namworld;Was a 11 DMC to 1 ASICMINER-PT conversion and should be good for about all outstanding shares 345361;1381301499;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 150 @ 0.00106601 = 0.1599 BTC [-] {3} 345362;1381301517;Namworld;Plus some other assets that could be considered pretty much valueless. 345363;1381301573;dub;I guess thats something 345364;1381301596;Namworld;Something like 40'000 USD 345365;1381301612;dub;you're right about the rest though, the days of play exchanges are over 345366;1381301639;Namworld;I recommend liquidation and payout to all holders and close. 345367;1381301658;Namworld;Easy to sell ASICMINERs and auction the other stuff. 345368;1381301926;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1448 @ 0.00113839 = 1.6484 BTC [+] {4} 345369;1381304000;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1600 @ 0.00025 = 0.4 BTC [-] {3} 345370;1381304061;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 622 @ 0.00024992 = 0.1555 BTC [-] {2} 345371;1381304244;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3104 @ 0.00023489 = 0.7291 BTC [-] {4} 345372;1381304488;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2043 @ 0.00021474 = 0.4387 BTC [-] {5} 345373;1381304549;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 7957 @ 0.00020005 = 1.5918 BTC [-] {3} 345374;1381304732;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 644 @ 0.00019997 = 0.1288 BTC [-] {2} 345375;1381305159;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2747 @ 0.000185 = 0.5082 BTC [-] {3} 345376;1381305252;Diablo-D3;[02:27:41] Void? What about the holdings? You can't pocket them for yourself. 345377;1381305265;Diablo-D3;Namworld: no, but the company is free to keep them in the company's pocket. 345378;1381305336;Diablo-D3;Namworld: dont worry, DMC has not been critically injured in vain. 345379;1381305345;Diablo-D3;It'll be back. 345380;1381305396;Diablo-D3;Namworld: and if you're worried about your shares of your asset, you can have them. 345381;1381305453;Diablo-D3;Namworld: all 106 shares of BTC-MINING are yours. 345382;1381305473;Diablo-D3;its what you wanted, anyways, and I dont see amazingrando ever being brought to justice 345383;1381306156;dub;lol 345384;1381306245;Diablo-D3;Namworld: if you think Im just going to run from the SEC, Im not. 345385;1381306276;Diablo-D3;Namworld: but DMC was never created merely to make money. It was created for much grander purposes. 345386;1381306308;Diablo-D3;Namworld: oh, dont get me wrong, it made lots of money, all of which ended up in investor's hands 345387;1381306322;Diablo-D3;Namworld: but dont say shit like "you're running off with company assets" 345388;1381306336;Diablo-D3;No, I'm funding a war against those who want to see Bitcoin fail. 345389;1381306365;dub;DMC: The war against failure 345390;1381306472;pankkake;are you saying DMC won't Run? 345391;1381306565;phish;lol 345392;1381306854;Diablo-D3;pankkake: at least you used that for a joke 345393;1381306883;Diablo-D3;I mean, where DMC is going, we don't need roads. 345394;1381306892;pankkake;hehehe 345395;1381306946;ThickAsThieves;off a cliff? 345396;1381306989;Diablo-D3;ThickAsThieves: no, but I tend on pushing the SEC off one 345397;1381306995;pankkake;don't be mean, Diablo might cry 345398;1381307068;Namworld;You still can't take DMC's assets 345399;1381307074;Diablo-D3;Namworld: good. Im not. 345400;1381307082;Diablo-D3;DMC is retaining them as per the shareholder contract. 345401;1381307192;Namworld;No, because you're voiding shares. It's effectively theft. 345402;1381307322;Diablo-D3;Namworld: no, effectively the SEC has done this. 345403;1381307329;Diablo-D3;I'm only complying. 345404;1381307383;Namworld;You can't arbitrarily void them. SEC would agree it wasn't done properly. But you can't void past actions. 345405;1381307414;ThickAsThieves;While I wasn't around for the earlier offenses, it does seem that DMC always manages to find a the worst way to manage its assets 345406;1381307419;Diablo-D3;No, but shareholders also have no right to the assets as per the contract. 345407;1381307440;Diablo-D3;ThickAsThieves: not at all. for the majority of DMC's life, its been almost entirely invested in AM 345408;1381307442;ThickAsThieves;So, tell me, what will this move afford you for DMC's future? 345409;1381307458;Namworld;No right to assets, but you don't either. 345410;1381307466;Diablo-D3;ThickAsThieves: the only failures have been Namworld's BTC-MINING and yochdog's BTCMC 345411;1381307471;Namworld;You can keep it running as it is right now or liquidate and force buyout. 345412;1381307491;ThickAsThieves;just auction the assets 345413;1381307494;ThickAsThieves;pretty simple 345414;1381307538;Diablo-D3;ThickAsThieves: not viable. 345415;1381307546;Diablo-D3;ThickAsThieves: and theres virtually no assets lefct 345416;1381307554;ThickAsThieves;i assume anything other than what youve chose is 'not viable' 345417;1381307560;Diablo-D3;Namworld helped amazingrando run off with 106 BTC 345418;1381307561;ThickAsThieves;chosen* 345419;1381307572;Namworld;There's ASICMINERs left. 345420;1381307574;Diablo-D3;yochdog is in the process of liquidation 345421;1381307580;ThickAsThieves;meh, i'm not sure why i got into this conversation 345422;1381307588;ThickAsThieves;surely it will only be a chore 345423;1381307594;Diablo-D3;ThickAsThieves: I dont know either. You dont own any DMC afaik. 345424;1381307614;Diablo-D3;Namworld: you clearly think the contract says something it doesn't. 345425;1381307666;ThickAsThieves;http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Reasonable+man+theory 345426;1381307668;ozbot;Reasonable man theory legal definition of Reasonable man theory. Reasonable man theory synonyms by t 345427;1381307674;dub; its like that, and thats the way it is 345428;1381307688;Namworld;It doesn't need to. If you sell share in a company and then void shares and get away with it all... 345429;1381307696;Namworld;It's theft. 345430;1381307742;Namworld;The no rights to asset clause is merely an indication that we can't directly make a claim on the asset. Not that the manager can take those assets for himself/other endeavours. 345431;1381307788;Namworld;They remain in DMC and DMC holders are entitled to income/profit. Or in case of activity ceasing, 100% of liquidation value. 345432;1381307909;ThickAsThieves;;;ticker 345433;1381307909;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 137.72001, Best ask: 138.49968, Bid-ask spread: 0.77967, Last trade: 137.72001, 24 hour volume: 8146.15003935, 24 hour low: 135.80000, 24 hour high: 139.50000, 24 hour vwap: 137.54397 345434;1381307923;ThickAsThieves;;;nethash 345435;1381307923;gribble;1605753.10322 345436;1381307946;Namworld;That's certainly not a proper way to close down. 345437;1381308137;Namworld;Liquidating and distributing would probably greatly reduce liabilities. 345438;1381308145;Namworld;Voiding those shares is a silly idea. 345439;1381308275;ThickAsThieves;particularly if he expects anyone to ever invest in his efforts in the future 345440;1381308290;ThickAsThieves;though that ship has likely sailed 345441;1381308384;Namworld;Well I assume it would have to be non-BTC investors. But good luck pulling it off using stolen assets to jumpstart it. 345442;1381308441;ThickAsThieves;hmm, shouldnt DMC be frozen at this point? 345443;1381308651;Namworld;Probably 345444;1381308686;Diablo-D3;Namworld: it already is afaik 345445;1381308693;Diablo-D3;er, ThickAsThieves 345446;1381308714;Diablo-D3;I think ukyo said hes freezing all american assets 345447;1381308734;ThickAsThieves;you need to freeze it yourself 345448;1381308743;ThickAsThieves;he's not doing that stuff til the 1st 345449;1381308747;Namworld;Diablo-D3, you can't close DMC like that and you know it. 345450;1381308749;Diablo-D3;dont think I can 345451;1381308757;Diablo-D3;Namworld: as per the contract, I actually can. 345452;1381308767;ThickAsThieves;Issuer > Edit Profile > Options 345453;1381308768;Namworld;As per the contract, you can't 345454;1381308795;Namworld;There's no clause allowing you to reallocate assets to other people or void shares. 345455;1381308831;Namworld;You're killing off any chance you have at DMC 2.0 345456;1381308889;Diablo-D3;Namworld: assets have not been reallocated. 345457;1381308901;Diablo-D3;Namworld: nor has DMC been closed. 345458;1381308934;Namworld;They have. Shares have been voided. 345459;1381308958;Diablo-D3;You seem to be confused. 345460;1381308965;Diablo-D3;Shares of DMC do not make DMC exist. 345461;1381308975;biteesak;;;bc,24hprc 345462;1381308975;gribble;127.94 345463;1381308976;Diablo-D3;DMC exists independently of shares existing. 345464;1381309002;Namworld;If DMC doesn't exist, the transfer of funds for that inexisting company sure took place. 345465;1381309067;Diablo-D3;If DMC doesn't exist, then what are we discussing exactly? 345466;1381309071;Diablo-D3;Because I'm pretty sure it exists. 345467;1381309093;ThickAsThieves;without the shares and holdings, DMC arguably does not exist 345468;1381309098;ThickAsThieves;since it does nothing 345469;1381309100;Namworld;I said "If", which is not the case. Even if DMC wasn't properly registered, the contract exist and is valid. 345470;1381309138;Diablo-D3;ThickAsThieves: companies that do nothing frequently exist. 345471;1381309163;Diablo-D3;Namworld: yes, and the contract states shares have no claim to the assets unless the company is closing, thus assets would be liquidated 345472;1381309169;Diablo-D3;Namworld: DMC is not closing. 345473;1381309176;Namworld;It occured. Your identity is known. There's tracks of the whole ordeal. You're arbitrarily voiding DMC 1.0 shares and taking the assets to start and sell shares in DMC 2.0 345474;1381309191;Diablo-D3;Namworld: no, no shares in DMC 2.0 will ever exist. 345475;1381309198;Diablo-D3;that would just be playing into the SEC's game 345476;1381309205;Namworld;Well funding will exist. 345477;1381309236;Diablo-D3;Yes, funding by people who meet SEC accreditation. 345478;1381309246;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1979 @ 0.00286784 = 5.6755 BTC [-] {7} 345479;1381309251;Diablo-D3;Which I believe no one in the Bitcoin community can meet. 345480;1381309300;Diablo-D3;Namworld: I dont think you realize how dangerous the SEC currently is to America. 345481;1381309307;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 521 @ 0.00285103 = 1.4854 BTC [-] 345482;1381309310;Namworld;One complaint about it and good luck managing to get any funding for DMC 2.0 in any sort of legal way. The fact DMC 1.0 shares were sold to non-accredited people doesn't give you any legal basis to void them. 345483;1381309318;Namworld;You know it. 345484;1381309334;Diablo-D3;Namworld: You can claim what you want. 345485;1381309345;Diablo-D3;But DMC has no USD denominated assets, nor physical assets. 345486;1381309381;Diablo-D3;What DMC has is virtual assets paid for using virtual money. 345487;1381309413;Namworld;Doesn't matter that there's no USD assets. That just means it might be hard/impossible to seize. Not that no wrongdoings would be found. 345488;1381309415;Diablo-D3;Paid for by people who I believe were in on this scam from the beginning. 345489;1381309445;Diablo-D3;And then dragged me into it using lies. 345490;1381309457;Diablo-D3;So, I'm washing my hands of this. 345491;1381309467;Diablo-D3;When the SEC comes, it will be all up to the rest of you to deal with. 345492;1381309490;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.0028018 = 2.8018 BTC [-] {7} 345493;1381309505;jurov;http://www.theonion.com/articles/national-parks-closed-for-annual-remajestification,17484/ the onion prescient as always 345494;1381309505;ozbot;National Parks Closed For Annual Remajestification | The Onion - America's Finest News Source 345495;1381309526;Diablo-D3;Namworld: I mean, you don't even have a right to even have this argument with me 345496;1381309535;Diablo-D3;"amazingrando stole all the money, oh well" 345497;1381309551;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1499 @ 0.0027001 = 4.0474 BTC [-] {6} 345498;1381309554;Namworld;That Nefario lied to you doesn't discharge you from responsibilities to DMC 1.0 holders. You know it. What's been done is done. 345499;1381309602;Diablo-D3;You owe DMC 106 BTC, far more than your shares in DMC are worth. 345500;1381309625;biteesak;http://venturebeat.com/2013/09/23/crowdfunding-with-jobs-act-title-ii-the-web-will-eat-financing-and-investing/ 345501;1381309625;ozbot;Crowdfunding: With JOBS Act Title II, the web will ‘eat financing and investing’ | VentureBeat 345502;1381309644;Namworld;I owe only what BTC-MINING has in assets, nothing. You can go after me for mismanagement or whatever else. 345503;1381309646;Diablo-D3;bitesak: people close to the matter have already admitted its going to be worthless 345504;1381309662;Namworld;Just like you owe DMC 1.0 holders DMC 1.0's assets. 345505;1381309677;Diablo-D3;Namworld: but you dont get it, do you 345506;1381309689;Diablo-D3;Im not going after you because I've admitted that you were in on it. 345507;1381309708;Namworld;in on what? 345508;1381309718;Diablo-D3;Same with yochdog, he knew what he was going to do since day one 345509;1381309725;Diablo-D3;who knows how much money he made off with. 345510;1381309776;Namworld;Ah, accusations, you say? 345511;1381309793;Diablo-D3;But DMC's two largest assets? btc-mining and btcmc. 345512;1381309804;Diablo-D3;two of which can never be liquidated because, frankly, they don't exist. 345513;1381309818;Diablo-D3;And I don't think they ever did. 345514;1381309840;ThickAsThieves;http://bitbet.us/bet/487/dms-will-still-be-traded-at-the-end/ 345515;1381309841;ozbot;BitBet - DMS will still be traded at the end of 2013 345516;1381309849;Diablo-D3;But I'm washing my hands of this 345517;1381309857;Diablo-D3;DMC cannot afford to sue. 345518;1381309896;Namworld;They did exist. They all do. What you propose is theft, pure and simple. 345519;1381309914;Diablo-D3;What I propose has already been completed after a year of babysitting it. 345520;1381309917;dub;whats DMS? 345521;1381309935;Diablo-D3;Namworld: I'll tell you one thing though 345522;1381309948;Diablo-D3;Namworld: when the SEC asks you to do something, you don't discuss it with others, you just do it. 345523;1381309962;Diablo-D3;Namworld: and its in your best interest to just do it. 345524;1381310053;ThickAsThieves;SEC told someone to do something? 345525;1381310070;Diablo-D3;ThickAsThieves: the SEC has told a lot of someones to do something. 345526;1381310087;ThickAsThieves;so wise, this man 345527;1381310091;Namworld;Well the SEC might disagree with you arbitrarily voiding shareholders who sent you funds. SEC wants compliance, they don't say "Well all that occured without us never existed, don't sweat it." 345528;1381310115;Diablo-D3;Namworld: This discussion is over. 345529;1381310128;ThickAsThieves;reeeow 345530;1381310131;Diablo-D3;The shareholder contract has not been violated, more than 100% of shareholder funds have been returned. 345531;1381310149;Namworld;To some, while others get nothing? 345532;1381310168;Namworld;You get away with all the extra DMC 1.0 made? 345533;1381310199;Namworld;If I'm not mistaken, DMC 1.0 as per contract is entitled to all those profits that were made over initial investment. 345534;1381310202;Diablo-D3;Namworld: DMC has made no extra, and ends in debt. 345535;1381310211;ThickAsThieves;I used to trade and hold DMC, then I read trilema articles from back in the day 345536;1381310214;Diablo-D3;Namworld: you are in error. 345537;1381310232;Diablo-D3;ThickAsThieves: yes, like, mp knows anything about stocks. 345538;1381310236;Namworld;In debt? How so? 345539;1381310269;Diablo-D3;Namworld: money owed to DMC exceeds what DMC has in "assets" (if you can call them that) 345540;1381310297;ThickAsThieves;... 345541;1381310297;Namworld;Unless DMC "OWES SOMETHING TO SOMEONE", it's not in debt. 345542;1381310321;Namworld;That's the reverse, some are in debt to DMC, DMC is not in debt. 345543;1381310335;Namworld;DMC made a profit. 345544;1381310340;Diablo-D3;DMC made a very small profit. 345545;1381310349;Diablo-D3;And it took over 2 and a half years to even get that far. 345546;1381310354;Diablo-D3;DMC ends in failure. 345547;1381310359;Namworld;Still a profit. Holders are entitled to it. 345548;1381310359;Diablo-D3;Thats just the way it is. 345549;1381310367;Diablo-D3;Yes, and holders were paid it, in full. 345550;1381310379;Namworld;No, assets remain 345551;1381310390;Namworld;They were not paid in full. 345552;1381310403;Namworld;In fact, some weren't repaid at all. 345553;1381310429;Diablo-D3;Read the contract. 345554;1381310459;Namworld;I read it already. 345555;1381310526;Diablo-D3;Each share represents 0% of the ownership in the company assets. In the event of liquidation, 100% of the revenue from sales of the assets and 100% of the growth fund, minus any expenses incurred from the operation or liquidation of the company will be paid to shareholders. 345556;1381310577;Diablo-D3;So tell me, Namworld, what does that paragraph say 345557;1381310586;Namworld;No liquidation occured. So assets remain with DMC and still pay out dividends. Hundreds of ASICMINER left. 345558;1381310590;ThickAsThieves;it says you will liquidate assets and payout the profit 345559;1381310641;Diablo-D3;Namworld: notice the line about dividends 345560;1381310656;Diablo-D3;1) 50% of all mining revenue will be distributed to shareholders in the form of dividends (henceforth referred to as "dividends"). These dividends will be paid monthly, split evenly among all shares regardless of class or issuing date. 345561;1381310684;Diablo-D3;There has been no mining revenue... ever. 345562;1381310691;Diablo-D3;In the history of DMC. 345563;1381310702;Namworld;Well then, DMC's assets are stuck in DMC, idling. You still can't repurpose them for DMC 2.0 345564;1381310710;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3947 @ 0.00083997 = 3.3154 BTC [+] {3} 345565;1381310717;Diablo-D3;Namworld: I can repurpose them for DMC to remain in DMC. 345566;1381310731;Namworld;Then you can't void DMC 1.0 holders 345567;1381310746;Diablo-D3;Nothing in the contract prohibits that. 345568;1381310773;Namworld;Nothing in the contract allows you to either. 345569;1381310785;biteesak;this does not seem very honest.. 345570;1381310790;Namworld;Thus you cannot void 1.0 holders arbitrarily. 345571;1381310797;Diablo-D3;bitesak: what the entire community has done isnt very honest 345572;1381310825;biteesak;so the opportunity to stick out is rather big 345573;1381310832;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4550 @ 0.00084191 = 3.8307 BTC [+] {3} 345574;1381310883;Diablo-D3;Namworld: Fine, hows this. 345575;1381310923;Diablo-D3;DMC is now closed. The expenses incurred from the operation and liquidation of the company is the current value of all assets. 345576;1381310947;Diablo-D3;I shall now pay out the final sum total of BTC: 0. 345577;1381310950;Diablo-D3;It has now been paid. 345578;1381311017;Namworld;So, could you please tell me what those expenses are? Because I know there's ASICMINERs left and liquidating those on the market would cost almost nothing. 345579;1381311036;Diablo-D3;Namworld: payment to the CEO for doing his job. 345580;1381311043;Diablo-D3;Which makes me the lowest paid CEO in the history of business. 345581;1381311064;biteesak;is that the best you can do ? 345582;1381311104;Namworld;I'd have to say, quite possibly the worst move one could do if they want to start a proper business requiring the funding you're seeking. 345583;1381311121;Diablo-D3;Namworld: Im not even sure if Im going to. 345584;1381311150;Diablo-D3;Namworld: making a profit means basically 60% of the money goes to the government 345585;1381311161;Diablo-D3;unless you're just so large you can get away without paying taxes 345586;1381311168;Diablo-D3;which I doubt any company in this industry will ever become 345587;1381311184;Diablo-D3;Namworld: so whats the point of building a company if the rich can just steal it all anyhow 345588;1381311198;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2628 @ 0.00083919 = 2.2054 BTC [-] 345589;1381311243;Diablo-D3;Namworld: I just don't see the point of the startup game anymore. 345590;1381311270;Diablo-D3;The government changes the rules to suit themselves, everyone is out to cheat steal and lie, and a tiny fraction of a percent ever win. 345591;1381311292;biteesak;so might as well do the same whenever possible 345592;1381311309;Diablo-D3;Namworld: I'm sorry DMC did not succeed, but thats the way it is. 345593;1381311378;Namworld;So your answer is to act like the government but against government regulation to open DMC 2.0 as per government regulation?? 345594;1381311392;Namworld;That's a bit fucked up. 345595;1381311393;Diablo-D3;Namworld: like I said, DMC 2.0 may not happen. 345596;1381311416;Diablo-D3;This whole experience has left a bad taste in my mouth. 345597;1381311437;Namworld;And if DMC 2.0 does not happen, why not close down by liquidating what's left and doing a forced buyback as per contract? 345598;1381311456;dub;its the libertarian dream 345599;1381311464;dub;fuck everyone because taxes 345600;1381311472;Namworld;I know it's been bad. But I haven't taken any salary either for fixing the aftermath as best as I could. 345601;1381311486;Diablo-D3;Namworld: Because I have decided, thanks to you, that this is the cost of DMC in the end. 345602;1381311504;Diablo-D3;It doesn't pay to be the nice guy always trying to do the right thing. 345603;1381311564;Namworld;I'm richer now and trusted. I've made back my losses with amazingrando because people seem to appreciate working with me. 345604;1381311571;Namworld;I'd say it pays to be nice. 345605;1381311593;Diablo-D3;So then pay DMC the 106 BTC you owe through BTC-MINING. 345606;1381311653;Namworld;I can't afford to pay over 1500 BTC. 345607;1381311696;Diablo-D3;Then thats the way it is. 345608;1381311746;Namworld;The difference being, in this case, you're admitting to yourself taking the remaining assets. 345609;1381311758;Namworld;Either keeping for yourself as salary or for DMC 2.0 or whatever. 345610;1381311981;Namworld;Do as you please, but that's low, compensating yourself like that when shit happen and leaving the others. I hope remaining holders aren't too damaged by that. 345611;1381312055;Namworld;If you're fed up and just want to take it, no need to feed bullshit arguments that don't hold any credibility. 345612;1381312057;Diablo-D3;whats the current value of an AM share anyhow? 345613;1381312064;Namworld;1 BTC 345614;1381312086;Namworld;At 1000 AM and 11 DMC to 1 AM trade, there should be a bit over 300 AM or 300 BTC left. 345615;1381312097;Namworld;With over 3000 DMC left outstanding 345616;1381312152;dexX7;Namworld: it's 430 AM according to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77469.msg3289371#msg3289371 345617;1381312162;Namworld;Wow, more than I thought. 345618;1381312174;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1622 @ 0.00083919 = 1.3612 BTC [-] 345619;1381312256;Namworld;It's no effort auctioning/selling the remaining assets to highest bidder and paying out liquidation to current shareholders for a closing as per contract. 345620;1381312296;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5225 @ 0.00084096 = 4.394 BTC [+] {2} 345621;1381312565;Diablo-D3;Namworld: there, I edited the final notice as per your requests. 345622;1381312626;Namworld;Suit yourself 345623;1381312651;Diablo-D3;Namworld: how many shares of DMC do you have left? 345624;1381312715;Namworld;Not sure. 345625;1381312728;Diablo-D3;go find out. 345626;1381312728;Namworld;456 345627;1381312739;Namworld;Yes, that's what I was checking. 345628;1381312764;Diablo-D3;go find out if you can still transfer shares to me while the asset is locked 345629;1381312801;Namworld;I haven't had a single holder before today which claimed that I owed them something, that made accusations or complained at all. 345630;1381312828;Diablo-D3;Ill trade you them for 42 AM. 345631;1381312866;Namworld;Hmm, let me do a counter proposal... 345632;1381312893;Namworld;I'll transfer them to you, nothing asked in return, on the condition you liquidate and payout the remaining holders. 345633;1381312914;Namworld;I want to see DMC's assets be properly liquidated and paid out. 345634;1381312923;Diablo-D3;Namworld: nope, Ill do it for 11:1 AM. 345635;1381312931;Diablo-D3;which Im still offering to shareholders. 345636;1381312968;Namworld;You're still offering it? You said all shares were void if I'm not mistaken. 345637;1381313096;Diablo-D3;did you not read the edit? 345638;1381313097;Namworld;Ah, I see the corrections. Assets will not be repurposed for DMC 2.0 hmm 345639;1381313097;dexX7;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77469.msg3289371#msg3289371 was edited to "As per the shareholder contract, DMC is now closing and liquidating." 345640;1381313099;ozbot;Diablo Mining Company 345641;1381313106;Namworld;Yes, that's satisfactory. 345642;1381313142;Diablo-D3;Namworld: but whats left of DMC _will_ resolve its debt to me. 345643;1381313183;Namworld;BTCMC/unclaimed AM trade-ins? 345644;1381313201;Diablo-D3;yes, unless someone offers something worthwhile for the BTCMC 345645;1381313234;Namworld;I'd quite prefer a proper liquidation. 345646;1381313259;Diablo-D3;I seriously doubt anyone will offer anything for BTCMC that even comes close to what is owed or what yochdog claims is left 345647;1381313260;Namworld;I suppose only AM holds any actual value right now. 345648;1381313295;Namworld;Very well. 345649;1381313309;Diablo-D3;I think I calculated that if yochdog cant find a buyer for the hardware, its basically worth about 1.5BTC 345650;1381313313;Diablo-D3;maybe 2 or 3 if he does 345651;1381313314;Namworld;You should probably mention the 11:1 trading prominently however. 345652;1381313487;Diablo-D3;Namworld: cant mention it any more prominently than it is 345653;1381313587;Namworld;Shares transfered. 345654;1381313606;Namworld;Well it is more prominent now indeed. 345655;1381313638;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4750 @ 0.00084316 = 4.005 BTC [+] {2} 345656;1381313716;Diablo-D3;there, I think thats the final edit. 345657;1381313767;Diablo-D3;Namworld: whats the email you gave to friedcat/ 345658;1381313804;Namworld;I have none I think. Well I auctioned my ASICMINERs long ago... 345659;1381313819;Namworld;Not sure if he still has it. 345660;1381313840;Namworld;Let me PM the email to you anyway. 345661;1381313845;Diablo-D3;k 345662;1381314097;Namworld;ok, well I'm off for now. This has dragged on quite late. Good night. 345663;1381314108;Diablo-D3;Namworld: I sent the PM to friedcat 345664;1381314121;Namworld;Thank you. 345665;1381314156;dexX7;Diablo-D3: considering you wanted to void all shares, i must say it's a honorable move to change your mind and offer the 1:11 exchange 345666;1381314183;ThickAsThieves;good on him, but to be fair that is the way it was before 345667;1381314199;dexX7;that's a different topic 345668;1381314213;Diablo-D3;I have no clue how long I can offer it though 345669;1381314222;Diablo-D3;At the very most, its less than 30 days (nov 1st) 345670;1381314241;Diablo-D3;but bitfunder could just glbse tommorow 345671;1381314281;Namworld;Well if they keep to their word, only purchasing more assets will be halted for US residents. 345672;1381314296;ThickAsThieves;that already is the case 345673;1381314300;Diablo-D3;Namworld: prepare for the worst. 345674;1381314303;ThickAsThieves;it's the selling that goes dark on the 1st 345675;1381314305;Namworld;Withdrawing/redeeming shares/etc will be accomodated with as much as possibe. 345676;1381314321;Namworld;Hopefully it works long enough for things to close down as best as possible. 345677;1381314326;Diablo-D3;btw, Im wondering what the biggest remaining shareholders will do 345678;1381314332;Diablo-D3;one guy has 550, one guy has 1774 345679;1381314396;Diablo-D3;those two could put a serious dent in the remaining shares 345680;1381314443;dub;they could put a serious dent in the evolutionary process if allowed to breed too 345681;1381314444;Namworld;They can claim 211 AM 345682;1381314454;Diablo-D3;Namworld: you missed the point 345683;1381314479;Namworld;Ah, you mean in outstanding shares 345684;1381314483;Diablo-D3;;;calc 3947 - 1774 - 550 - 456 345685;1381314483;gribble;1167 345686;1381314493;Diablo-D3;that seems wrong 345687;1381314513;Diablo-D3;there isn't enough left 345688;1381314573;Diablo-D3;;;calc 1167 - 144 - 100 - 91 345689;1381314574;gribble;832 345690;1381314582;Diablo-D3;yeah, theres no way theres 832 left 345691;1381314594;Diablo-D3;;;calc 1167 - 144 - 100 - 91 - 107 345692;1381314594;gribble;725 345693;1381314596;Diablo-D3;yeah no way 345694;1381314617;jurov;http://www.forexminute.com/bitcoin/inside-bitcoins-conference-to-be-held-in-las-vegas-jered-kenna-will-be-keynote-speaker-18934 345695;1381314618;ozbot;Inside Bitcoins Conference to Be Held in Las Vegas, Jered Kenna Will be Keynote Speaker | Forex Minu 345696;1381314633;Diablo-D3;Namworld: Im going to laugh if I find out bitfunder fucked up the count 345697;1381314641;jurov;"With 20mission, Jered Kenna aims to foster a collaborative living environment for startup executives, developers, designers and artists." sooo gay 345698;1381314668;ThickAsThieves;"He is one of the most eloquent speakers in the Bitcoin economy." 345699;1381314713;Diablo-D3;;;calc 3947 - 456 345700;1381314714;gribble;3491 345701;1381314726;Diablo-D3;;;calc 430 - 32 345702;1381314726;gribble;398 345703;1381314727;Diablo-D3;;;calc 430 - 42 345704;1381314727;gribble;388 345705;1381314797;dexX7;;;calc 430 - 3947 / 11 345706;1381314798;gribble;71.1818181818 345707;1381314850;dub;who ever heard of living with the people you work with anyway 345708;1381314858;Diablo-D3;dub: yeah, thats like 345709;1381314862;dub;its an entirely retarded prospect 345710;1381314863;Diablo-D3;marrying your cofounder 345711;1381314885;dub;unless you market is homeless fucktards like taaki 345712;1381314905;Diablo-D3;YO DAWG, I HEARD YOU LIKE WOMEN AND COFOUNDERS, SO I MADE YOUR COFOUNDER A WOMAN, SO YOU CAN FUCK HER WHILE YOU GIVE HER THE SHAFT 345713;1381314919;mod6;haha 345714;1381315468;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00084415 = 3.461 BTC [+] {3} 345715;1381317317;BingoBoingo;So, Buttfunder is dead before I could even make money on a Bitbet for that shit. 345716;1381317335;Diablo-D3;basically 345717;1381317379;Namworld;Correction, until further notice, it only stops servicing US customers and requires ID. 345718;1381317393;Namworld;I guess that's synonymous to dead tho 345719;1381317440;Diablo-D3;yup 345720;1381317514;Namworld;Well I've had enough of all this. Off to sleep. Will probably close my PTs and the rest and only leave my loan active, perhaps. 345721;1381317571;Namworld;I prefer to manage only something on which I have a clear 100% responsibility on no matter what. 345722;1381317583;Namworld;Easier and straightforward 345723;1381317595;Namworld;Good night. 345724;1381317667;BingoBoingo;Eh, It's taken me too long being on IRC to find the right Buttfunder joke. I'm kind of enjoying the Irony that 'Muricans that despise MPEx and MP that despises 'Muricans seem like they are going to have to get along some way. Probably in a way that involves 'Muricans learning options because MPEx ain't getting LabCoin, but still. 345725;1381317683;BingoBoingo;It is Fall 2012 all over again. 345726;1381317698;Diablo-D3;yup 345727;1381317702;Diablo-D3;happens about every year 345728;1381317793;BingoBoingo;Diablo-D3: I wouldn't be surprised if it accelerates in the next year where even moar dispoasable exchanges pop up. 345729;1381318172;BingoBoingo;It seems at this rate Meni Rosenfield will be able to raise 5KbTC capital on UsagiFunder before Thanksgiving. 345730;1381318430;mircea_popescu;whee 345731;1381318461;mircea_popescu;in other news : today we will have the S.NSA first product announcement. 345732;1381318468;bitesak;great 345733;1381318584;KRS-;Meni makes a lovely Musaca. 345734;1381318754;mircea_popescu;every pirate ship needs a good cook ? 345735;1381320044;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69348300 BTC to 1`386`966 shares, 50 satoshi per share 345736;1381320278;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Please I've been waiting on it. I have already bet on it. Only donation m blog received so far got rolled into the Yes of this: http://bitbet.us/bet/545/no-such-labs-higher-market-cap-than-s-mg/ because fuck invesitng or hedging. Let the betting begin, 345737;1381320288;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 1.11001 = 2.22 BTC [-] 345738;1381320308;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo lolwhat a concept. 345739;1381320378;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: I don't have enough fingers to count how many bitbets I have been nearly all of both sides. I don't know what pankkake is smoking about yall abing slective. 345740;1381320403;mircea_popescu;wait srsly ?! betting with yourself ? 345741;1381320461;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Yes, That is the beauty of mutual betting. Betting with myself until other people in the market correct the odds as they do so well. 345742;1381320520;mircea_popescu;interesting. is it productive over all these many bets ? or even been keeping track ? 345743;1381320533;mircea_popescu;i guess it wouldn't take that much to cover the 1% bitbet rakes. 345744;1381320614;BingoBoingo;The latest example is here where I am all of the yes and a good portion of the no. I could lose on a no, but it would be covered by http://bitbet.us/bet/113/bitbet-will-we-worth-more-than-satoshi-dice/ winnings. 345745;1381320657;BingoBoingo;By here I mean and forgot to link http://bitbet.us/bet/151/st-louis-cardinals-will-win-the-2013-world/ 345746;1381320726;BingoBoingo;Linking errors and mistypes are a peril, but for whom? 345747;1381320821;mircea_popescu;for everyone involved 345748;1381320836;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo o right, you were doing sports picks on your blog i recall 345749;1381320841;mircea_popescu;well, bitbet can certainly use more of that. 345750;1381320902;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Well, If the Cardinal win the World series... I can probably find some BitBets on Bowl Games. 345751;1381321005;BingoBoingo;Then again I've also spoiled the line bets on forum advertised picks because I was too late. Also because fuck bookies. 345752;1381321386;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 37 @ 0.0094001 = 0.3478 BTC [-] 345753;1381321527;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: I did sports picks on the blog, but my method is strictly just eyeballing match ups before I have the opportunity to form a real opinion. I may be a shutty method, but it has served me well. Who knows what I could achieve if only I had a monkey and a dart board. 345754;1381321554;mircea_popescu;lol 345755;1381321566;mircea_popescu;go to the bookies in your town, get one to back you. 345756;1381321577;mircea_popescu;maybe throw in a dartboard 345757;1381321691;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5450 @ 0.0008408 = 4.5824 BTC [-] {2} 345758;1381321782;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: LoL, I'd have to go to Vegas... This whole Illinois and/or Missouri being the most corrupt state in the union deal. They won't allow house edges lower than the sanctioned lotto offers. And so I plan to keep doing to line betting sites what it did to that Blockbet.net place which mysteriously disappeared sometime around the NCAA basketball tournament. 345759;1381321833;mircea_popescu;heh. 345760;1381321939;BingoBoingo;Pretty sure I didn't kill it with basketball though. 345761;1381322245;BingoBoingo;If my ever so faulty memory serves me right they lifted lines from Vegas books for the World Baseball Classic. They completely forgot the part where the house vig was supposed to cover their trouble and not be a contributing factor to money they would bleed when the serious gamblers caught them in the ncaa tournament. 345762;1381322300;BingoBoingo;I file the incident under reasons I don't buy mining equipment. 345763;1381322452;mircea_popescu;lol 345764;1381322479;mircea_popescu;so basically wait wait just a second here. 345765;1381322492;mircea_popescu;are you saying the site FAKED its supposed bust, because it was betting its own book and lost ? 345766;1381322697;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Honestly that is how I think Blockbet.net went down. 345767;1381322726;mircea_popescu;wow. 345768;1381322745;mircea_popescu;add another reason to "why not use random line betting btc site sprouted after last week's rain" 345769;1381322758;mircea_popescu;i did think the "bust" was a little suspicious. 345770;1381322770;BingoBoingo;If I were into Bitcoin both earlier and stupider I can't say I wouldn't have tried something similar, but GPG contacts and all 345771;1381323019;BingoBoingo;If dorks ever realized how much power they could get from simply having old, long GPG keys... 345772;1381323354;BingoBoingo;I also ripped into solar wind mining again, because it is their fault http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2013/10/09/a-sample-gpg-signature/ 345773;1381323460;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13400 @ 0.0008476 = 11.3578 BTC [+] {6} 345774;1381323662;bitesak;http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2013/10/07/the-nsas-hugely-expensive-utah-data-center-has-major-electrical-problems-and-basically-isnt-working/ 345775;1381323663;ozbot;The NSA's Hugely Expensive Utah Data Center Has Major Electrical Problems And Basically Isn't Workin 345776;1381323800;BingoBoingo;Who would have anticipated giant Faraday cages could also be giant antennas? 345777;1381323950;BingoBoingo;Also apparently Google has been hiding their GPG wizardry this whole time: https://services.google.com/corporate/publickey.txt 345778;1381324125;kleeck;.d 345779;1381324125;ozbot;189281249.28103 | Next Diff in 1517 blocks | Estimated Change: 17.4643% in 8d 16h 39m 31s 345780;1381324137;mircea_popescu;bitesak lmao 345781;1381324157;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo that's not new by any means. 345782;1381324271;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Maybe not to you, but I've been wondering why the gmail address I dump all my ciphertext to isn't getting cipher text in my notifications from them. 345783;1381324315;mircea_popescu;a well. dif story :) 345784;1381324379;mircea_popescu;so basically the nsa has created the world's largest bug zapper 345785;1381324384;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Aren't they all. Except that pointless and whitless one? 345786;1381324385;mircea_popescu;and is using it on its own techs 345787;1381324389;mircea_popescu;bugs that they are. 345788;1381324390;mircea_popescu;superb. 345789;1381324400;jurov;if nsa repurposed the DC to bitcoin mining, no wonder 345790;1381324428;BingoBoingo;I'm just wondering how much data their zapper lst that they actually wanted. 345791;1381324543;BingoBoingo;Like Tor I imagine it wasn't all of it, but enough of it to clear two or three people. 345792;1381324676;BingoBoingo;I've seen yesterday's posts about random wanabee deaers getting busted. I wanted to make a post about retain a fucking lawyer now. Everystory I read about actual Silk Road people involve to much stupid though. 345793;1381324711;nubbins`;why retain a lawyer when you can just sell a bunch of coke instead? 345794;1381324774;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: Case you can get a lawyer to just make bail for cheap. Then if you get busted have the good one keep you out of jail. 345795;1381324787;nubbins`;i was joking :( 345796;1381324802;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 1.11001 = 2.22 BTC [-] 345797;1381324819;nubbins`;i know a guy who got busted a couple of years ago 345798;1381324821;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: This is IRC everyone is joking, or incredibly serious. 345799;1381324826;nubbins`;he didn't retain a lawyer 345800;1381324839;nubbins`;and now he's not allowed to drink, do drugs, or leave his house 345801;1381324864;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 10 @ 0.011 = 0.11 BTC [+] 345802;1381324915;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: Fuck him them. My drive through law trick must be a miracle man then (and this is the dude I didn't trust beyond making my bail). 345803;1381325046;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 1.11001 BTC [-] 345804;1381325075;BingoBoingo;Have any of yall been on TradeFortress's network CoinChat, because I am running out of ways to call RealSolid and scammy fuck and Mcxnow something to avoid at all costs. 345805;1381325107;bitesak;somehow I feel the next announcement on s.NSA will inspire more than the bug zapper NSA story 345806;1381325193;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo http://trilema.com/2012/why-its-not-actually-in-your-best-interest-to-allow-a-hired-third-party-to-speak-for-you-in-criminal-proceedings/ 345807;1381325196;mircea_popescu;best learn teh law. 345808;1381325224;bitesak;mircea_popescu, have you stopped using twitter for mpex feed ? seems last trade was in june 345809;1381325226;bitesak;https://twitter.com/MPEx1 345810;1381325226;BingoBoingo;thank you mircea_popescu 345811;1381325228;ozbot;MPEx (MPEx1) on Twitter 345812;1381325283;BingoBoingo;bitesak: all of the payment addresses to yes on this bet http://bitbet.us/bet/545/no-such-labs-higher-market-cap-than-s-mg/ actually go to me. 345813;1381325388;mod6;bitesak: i've got a twit feed going @bitotter 345814;1381325440;bitesak;thanks 345815;1381325536;bitesak;BingoBoingo, you mean in the sense you are taking care of the NO side and will reap the YES? 345816;1381325609;BingoBoingo;bitesake: That is what I have set up now. I am th only yes on that bet, and I could win it simply in the week after IPO. 345817;1381325753;mircea_popescu;bitesak twitter basically decided i'm spamming them 345818;1381325768;mircea_popescu;i had been trying to get it "sorted out" but they're kind of unhelpful so... what can i do. 345819;1381325832;BingoBoingo;bitesak: Let us not forget this gem I sextupled my money on http://bitbet.us/bet/113/bitbet-will-we-worth-more-than-satoshi-dice/ by having simply identified in December Erik was too unreliable to spearhead a public asset backed by a GPG signed contract. For every other bet it is just the same sort of eyeballin' 345820;1381326021;bitesak;how does that compare to buying shares in S.Bitbet and S.NSA rather than the bitbet venue as the depth seems way bigger the S. way 345821;1381326044;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Aparently some other asshole has a twitter account in the name BingoBoingo, so I'll have to settle for BingoBlog or something when I get to it. 345822;1381326077;mircea_popescu;it's not such a great name anyway 345823;1381326083;mircea_popescu;(contrary to what you may think) 345824;1381326101;BingoBoingo;bitesak: No particular way other than a gambler. If people want to hedge fuck them because I'm gambling this shit. 345825;1381326167;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Nothing apparently is a good enough name to break some brain wallets. 345826;1381326190;mircea_popescu;:p 345827;1381326430;mircea_popescu;http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/166580-researchers-find-new-ultra-low-level-method-of-hacking-cpus-and-theres-no-way-to-detect-it 345828;1381326432;ozbot;Researchers find new, ultra-low-level method of hacking CPUs – and there’s no way to detect it | 345829;1381326435;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform for your lolz ^ 345830;1381326693;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00084947 = 2.1237 BTC [+] 345831;1381326711;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: It apparently seems that Tor exits have to be honeypots. I've been running on for half of a week and been getting nothing but boring througn MITM attacks. No matter what bandwidth I offer Tor exits, the tor seems to adapt n a way that either recognizes me attacking its exits or suggests it is sucking some NSA dick. 345832;1381326876;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 72 @ 0.011 = 0.792 BTC [+] {2} 345833;1381326877;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.1010375 BTC [-] 345834;1381326937;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 6 @ 0.1005001 = 0.603 BTC [-] 345835;1381327120;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 24 @ 0.007 = 0.168 BTC [+] 345836;1381327123;BingoBoingo;Maybe the next few days will offer something else, but so far I'm finding little more than Iranians who would probably rather the US get their story if only it wasn't so boring. 345837;1381327213;kleeck;.d 345838;1381327213;ozbot;189281249.28103 | Next Diff in 1513 blocks | Estimated Change: 17.2608% in 8d 16h 27m 18s 345839;1381327770;BingoBoingo;I mean how wide does the "tor foundation" advertise their exit bandwidth being? There is not way I get all of the fringe cases exiting and nothing else if this shit ain't random. I'm probably burning some logs and just advertising Tor as more compromised than imagined. 345840;1381328325;mircea_popescu;;;later tell bingoboingo maybe do a full study of the matter and publish the results. 345841;1381328325;gribble;The operation succeeded. 345842;1381328462;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 37 @ 0.011 = 0.407 BTC [-] 345843;1381329119;nubbins`;sweet! doing a zine workshop next tuesday 345844;1381330109;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.0008474 = 1.6948 BTC [-] 345845;1381330109;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.36101001 BTC [-] 345846;1381331146;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 1.2759999 BTC [+] 345847;1381331207;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.000849 = 1.9527 BTC [+] 345848;1381331695;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 1.2759999 = 5.104 BTC [+] 345849;1381332671;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2612 @ 0.00084947 = 2.2188 BTC [+] 345850;1381333281;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 51 @ 0.01100001 = 0.561 BTC [-] 345851;1381333342;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 26 @ 0.011 = 0.286 BTC [-] 345852;1381333464;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 16 @ 0.01000003 = 0.16 BTC [-] 345853;1381333830;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15953 @ 0.00085049 = 13.5679 BTC [+] {5} 345854;1381334441;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3325 @ 0.000183 = 0.6085 BTC [-] 345855;1381335233;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10694 @ 0.000183 = 1.957 BTC [-] 345856;1381335384;bitesak;http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20131008/18300324805/london-police-order-registrars-to-shut-down-bunch-websites-without-any-legal-basis-threaten-registrars-if-they-dont-comply.shtml 345857;1381335384;ozbot;London Police Order Registrars To Shut Down A Bunch Of Websites Without Any Legal Basis; Threaten Re 345858;1381335524;nubbins`;wow 345859;1381335699;bitesak;conspiracy to defraud seems like an extremely large concept 345860;1381335723;nubbins`;bitcoin is a pretty large concept 345861;1381335782;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 1.275999 = 7.656 BTC [-] 345862;1381335954;bitesak;easydns claims to be a NSA-Free Zone :) and actually seems to be standing up to this farce 345863;1381336200;bitesak;on the bright side, all this inspires the likes of MP & co to develop S.NSA products 345864;1381336454;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 1.12 BTC [-] 345865;1381336514;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 13 @ 1.10230769 = 14.33 BTC [-] {2} 345866;1381336819;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 1.085 = 5.425 BTC [-] 345867;1381337063;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 1.060001 = 4.24 BTC [-] 345868;1381337429;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 29 @ 0.01118 = 0.3242 BTC [-] 345869;1381337673;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 15 @ 0.01000268 = 0.15 BTC [-] {2} 345870;1381337873;nubbins`;joke's on you if S.NSA products have backdoors 345871;1381338283;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.01 = 0.4 BTC [-] {3} 345872;1381338893;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.01000001 = 0.2 BTC [+] 345873;1381339259;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.01 = 0.2 BTC [-] {2} 345874;1381339704;_mjoiii;Guys a plea for help... 345875;1381339731;_mjoiii;Anyone know of a method for tracking the transfers to Havelock? 345876;1381339760;topace;tracking tranfers ? 345877;1381339762;_mjoiii;The lack of liquidity there is killing me and I don't see any improvement after recent news. 345878;1381339789;_mjoiii;Won't us traders be transferring shares there? 345879;1381339799;topace;quite possibly 345880;1381339821;_mjoiii;Not 1:1 tacking but just an indication of the progress 345881;1381339841;topace;to initiate share transfer, follow the instructions for the specific assets 345882;1381339852;topace;we arent doing any transfers automatically 345883;1381339893;_mjoiii;No no not me, I've been w Havelock all along and happy to have a Canadian option. Just can't buy or sell much without affecting prices. 345884;1381339936;_mjoiii;So really looking forward to having more company there. 345885;1381339991;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 637 @ 0.00085195 = 0.5427 BTC [+] 345886;1381340200;nubbins`;_mjoiii: are you trying to buy or sell? ;) 345887;1381340324;_mjoiii;Both generally, today thinking of selling some neobee. 345888;1381340359;_mjoiii;Take look at that book. Sell 2t and it drops to 0.001 345889;1381340370;_mjoiii;Sorry, 25 345890;1381340418;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.01 = 0.4 BTC [-] {2} 345891;1381340454;nubbins`;yeah, volume is the problem with anything btc-related 345892;1381340485;nubbins`;only two funds have a 7-day volume > 100 btc 345893;1381340522;nubbins`;i suppose people coming over from bitfunder & btctctctctctc will change that somewhat 345894;1381340591;_mjoiii;That is my hope too. 345895;1381340651;ThickAsThieves;Don't expect too much change 345896;1381340664;ThickAsThieves;the factbeing that people are moving assets 345897;1381340666;_mjoiii;Why not? 345898;1381340666;ThickAsThieves;not coins 345899;1381340687;ThickAsThieves;this is a turtle market 345900;1381340694;kakobrekla;"buttfunder & btctctctctctc" - sounds like some strip joint 345901;1381340734;nubbins`;i always get confused as to what letter it ends on 345902;1381340746;nubbins`;their fault for putting half the name in the tld 345903;1381340761;kakobrekla;yeah its extra confusing 345904;1381340786;ThickAsThieves;so now that we caught up on processing all the migration data, we encountered a technical limitation with Bitfunder and we will have to require ALL TAT.ASICMINER migrators from BTCT to resubmit their info using a Havelock account 345905;1381340801;nubbins`;oof 345906;1381340802;kakobrekla;will you still be doing passthroughs? 345907;1381340859;ThickAsThieves;we haven't made any hard decisions in that regard 345908;1381340871;ThickAsThieves;we have a decision tree we have to climb through 345909;1381340891;ThickAsThieves;which requires meetings with various parties about various nuances 345910;1381340903;ThickAsThieves;there's no simple way to proceed 345911;1381340931;kakobrekla;i guess that comes with diligence 345912;1381340935;ThickAsThieves;in the meantime the immediate issues are the shareholders in limbo, and dividends 345913;1381340959;ThickAsThieves;i have no problem saying that Bitfunder has not made this easy 345914;1381340985;ThickAsThieves;whereas Havelock has 345915;1381341002;kakobrekla;Want to play bitcoin? Step 1: Move out of US. Step 2: Done. 345916;1381341015;ThickAsThieves;it's not even that simple 345917;1381341028;ThickAsThieves;but that's within the decision tree 345918;1381341031;topace;:) 345919;1381341071;ThickAsThieves;we've been working hard behind the scenes to legitimize our role into a real bitcoin investment bank 345920;1381341091;ThickAsThieves;we have a plan we've been executing 345921;1381341102;ThickAsThieves;but it does sorta require exchanges to do the same 345922;1381341219;robitnik;Does "we" include Neo? 345923;1381341236;robitnik;Or LMB 345924;1381341331;Jere_Jones;ThickAsThieves: "turtle market"? As in "turtles all the way down"? 345925;1381341346;ThickAsThieves;we is me, my partner, our team, and our lawyers 345926;1381341371;ThickAsThieves;turtle as in, hiding in its shell 345927;1381341385;ThickAsThieves;i figure "bear" market isnt quite fitting 345928;1381341402;Jere_Jones;Ah. Ok. 345929;1381341406;Jere_Jones;Nope. Still don't get it. 345930;1381341423;ThickAsThieves;what do turtles do when they are scared? 345931;1381341428;ThickAsThieves;shrink into their shell 345932;1381341443;Jere_Jones;Yes 345933;1381341452;ThickAsThieves;dont dwell on it too much 345934;1381341456;ThickAsThieves;;) 345935;1381341473;Jere_Jones;I think I get it now. Maybe. Back to work for me. :) 345936;1381342195;nospinzy;you think people would invest in webproperties from flippa 345937;1381342265;kakobrekla;in wha? 345938;1381342291;nospinzy;anything 345939;1381342298;nospinzy;anything that is a good price 345940;1381342302;nospinzy;and has income 345941;1381342314;nospinzy;let me find an example 345942;1381342325;_mjoiii;Does that mean websites? 345943;1381342333;nospinzy;yes 345944;1381342337;nospinzy;a fund to buy websites 345945;1381342346;nospinzy;active websites 345946;1381342361;nospinzy;https://flippa.com/2978742-pr-3-affiliate-reviews-site-for-as-seen-on-tv-products-2k-month-profit 345947;1381342362;ozbot;yourenotstupid.com - Website for Sale on Flippa: PR 3 Affiliate Reviews Site for As Seen On TV Produ 345948;1381342363;nospinzy;like that for example 345949;1381342506;_mjoiii;Is the idea to bundle profitable sites and sell units? 345950;1381342668;nospinzy;no the idea is to run the sites 345951;1381342675;nospinzy;and pay out a dividen 345952;1381342843;zoinky;that site brings in 2k a month? 345953;1381342896;kakobrekla;2k page views [via bots] 345954;1381342899;kakobrekla;:> 345955;1381342913;nospinzy;dollars 345956;1381342922;nospinzy;its an example 345957;1381342928;nospinzy;i wouldnt invest in that 345958;1381343035;zoinky;which would you invest in? 345959;1381343079;_mjoiii;Would be interesting to see portfolio/projections. 345960;1381343102;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 138 @ 0.002 = 0.276 BTC [-] 345961;1381343121;ThickAsThieves;so basically flippa is website templates pretending to be businesses 345962;1381343151;mike_c;it is affiliate websites that have stopped being profitable for their owners. 345963;1381343154;_mjoiii;Except those that are monetized and apparently profitable. 345964;1381343159;mike_c;who are now trying to make one last buck off them. 345965;1381343173;zoinky;pretty much 345966;1381343178;zoinky;its buying toxic websites 345967;1381343235;_mjoiii;Wondered about that in the past. If their sales pitch is correct, why are they selling? 345968;1381343285;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00085206 = 6.9017 BTC [+] {2} 345969;1381343383;ThickAsThieves;it's a tricky area, as i myself have been in a position before of having profitable things i no longer wanted 345970;1381343399;ThickAsThieves;sometimes people just wanna move on 345971;1381343410;ThickAsThieves;or make better money on other things 345972;1381344080;ThickAsThieves;"Keith, the very first guy Sean's Outpost fed with Bitcoin Died last night" 345973;1381344089;ThickAsThieves;that's some headline 345974;1381344261;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 370 @ 0.001161 = 0.4296 BTC [+] {2} 345975;1381344265;pankkake;conclusion: don't eat Bitcoins 345976;1381344322;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 544 @ 0.00085209 = 0.4635 BTC [+] 345977;1381344322;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 98 @ 0.00199 = 0.195 BTC [-] 345978;1381344577;ThickAsThieves;"Ulbricht's public defender said Ulbricht would not protest his detention as he awaits his transfer to New York. He retains the right to pursue bail after he arrives in New York." 345979;1381344583;ThickAsThieves;public defender? 345980;1381344591;ThickAsThieves;the thot plickens 345981;1381344607;kleeck;Jeeze man. 345982;1381344615;kleeck;Crack that wallet and get some representation. 345983;1381344660;pankkake;if impossible he could probably easily raise funds for his defense. weird 345984;1381345481;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2950 @ 0.0008511 = 2.5107 BTC [-] 345985;1381345664;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 61 @ 0.010002 = 0.6101 BTC [-] 345986;1381346091;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 1.0589 BTC [-] 345987;1381346945;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00084995 = 3.2298 BTC [-] {3} 345988;1381347250;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 1.01575714 = 7.1103 BTC [-] {4} 345989;1381347251;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00085209 = 2.9823 BTC [+] {2} 345990;1381347311;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.95775 = 3.831 BTC [-] {2} 345991;1381348043;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 16 @ 0.0100021 = 0.16 BTC [+] 345992;1381348287;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 98 @ 0.00207 = 0.2029 BTC [+] 345993;1381348409;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.951 BTC [-] 345994;1381348836;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] [PAID] 32.48744832 BTC to 6`684 shares, 486048 satoshi per share 345995;1381349202;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 487 @ 0.0008521 = 0.415 BTC [+] 345996;1381349629;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.92476999 = 9.2477 BTC [-] {6} 345997;1381349751;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 10 @ 0.01117 = 0.1117 BTC [+] 345998;1381350239;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 900 @ 0.0008521 = 0.7669 BTC [+] 345999;1381351825;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1004 @ 0.00118994 = 1.1947 BTC [+] {5} 346000;1381352557;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 53 @ 0.0100021 = 0.5301 BTC [-] 346001;1381352679;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 54 @ 0.09661668 = 5.2173 BTC [-] {4} 346002;1381352740;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 695 @ 0.00963942 = 6.6994 BTC [-] {18} 346003;1381353245;kakobrekla;Meni Rosenfeld. has a new thing 346004;1381353252;kakobrekla;http://bitblu.com/ 346005;1381353253;ozbot;Bitblu - crypto investment management 346006;1381353283;kakobrekla;and ripple guy 346007;1381353337;kakobrekla;from https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=308581.0 346008;1381353502;pankkake;wait they have a job offer for a third "founder and c?o" lol 346009;1381353536;ThickAsThieves;hrm 346010;1381353579;mircea_popescu;lol good one 346011;1381353625;ThickAsThieves;i bet the salary = you get to be a founder! 346012;1381353641;mircea_popescu;is that the ceo salary ? 346013;1381353700;mircea_popescu;sometimes it looks like every aluminum siding, vacuum & bible and car salesman is now doing bitcoin. 346014;1381353743;ThickAsThieves;you'll get a kick out of the headshots for the vegas conference 346015;1381353794;ThickAsThieves;http://www.mediabistro.com/insidebitcoins/speakers.asp 346016;1381353806;mircea_popescu;if they get shot in the head they won't be able to have open casket funerals. 346017;1381353940;kakobrekla;The vision of bitcoin is going to be set at conferences like this. 346018;1381353940;kakobrekla;Alan Safahi of ZipZap tells The Wall Street Journal. 346019;1381353964;mircea_popescu;lmao. jerkoffs will jerkoff. 346020;1381353991;mircea_popescu;also, zipzap = ziggap or zipzap = clueless fuckwits who have no idea history exists ? 346021;1381353993;Scrat;circlederp 346022;1381354022;mircea_popescu;Scrat dude, the "vision". the vision matters! herpes! 346023;1381354030;jborkl;"More bad luck! My power supply just died! I highly recommend not buying this power supply! http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817152044 346024;1381354030;jborkl;Off to the store to hopefully find one that isn't an arm and a leg on such short notice." 346025;1381354044;jborkl;KNC Supernova 346026;1381354056;mircea_popescu;supernova. nice name. 346027;1381354062;kakobrekla;lool 346028;1381354068;jborkl;Ty ty 346029;1381354077;kakobrekla;zipzap is this it seems http://www.zipzapinc.com/ 346030;1381354092;kakobrekla;dunno how is it related to btc 346031;1381354121;mircea_popescu;so here it is : 346032;1381354121;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/snsa-first-product-the-cardano/ 346033;1381354122;ozbot;S.NSA first product - The Cardano pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 346034;1381354176;mircea_popescu;also, mpex deposits flushed if anyone was waiting. 346035;1381354248;jcpham;if only my internets worked 346036;1381354254;jcpham;i could read trilema 346037;1381354260;mircea_popescu;well, get a government that's not shutdown 346038;1381354265;mircea_popescu;then maybe your internets'd work. 346039;1381354364;Kleeck_;yes, the government runs the internetz 346040;1381354401;mircea_popescu;everything, outdoor monuments, the internets, rain... 346041;1381354423;Kleeck_;haha 346042;1381354423;mircea_popescu;best & biggest government in teh whole world! real power rangers those people. 346043;1381354426;Kleeck_;the fuckin Ocean 346044;1381354454;Kleeck_;The USG is spending more money trying to prove that the "shutdown" is a big deal. 346045;1381354474;mircea_popescu;pls to not suggest the govt doth not help and doth not matter, 346046;1381354481;mircea_popescu;or it's the booby hatch for you. 346047;1381354509;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4258 @ 0.00084941 = 3.6168 BTC [-] {3} 346048;1381354532;Kleeck_;I wasn't suggesting that at all. 346049;1381354538;Kleeck_;But the booby hatch sounds nice. 346050;1381354551;mircea_popescu;that's because you don't know what a boobie is. 346051;1381354558;Kleeck_;I... I thought I did... 346052;1381354580;mike_c;what's the target cost for the cardano? 346053;1381354582;mircea_popescu;it's a... bird. 346054;1381354589;mircea_popescu;mike_c tba :) 346055;1381354595;Kleeck_;Yes, and a breast. 346056;1381354602;Kleeck_;Of, possibly, a female. 346057;1381354611;kakobrekla;i miss the option of forcing my own key innit 346058;1381354672;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla yup 346059;1381354691;mircea_popescu;the 0 1 8 problem. if you can so can someone else. no good. 346060;1381354753;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00084933 = 1.274 BTC [-] 346061;1381354777;kakobrekla;0 1 8? 346062;1381354810;mircea_popescu;;;google zero one infinity 346063;1381354811;gribble;Zero one infinity rule - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Zero One Infinity Rule: ; Zero-One-Infinity Rule - Catb.org: 346064;1381354965;kakobrekla;id live with the fact someone can replace it 346065;1381354968;kakobrekla;but not read it 346066;1381355015;mircea_popescu;why's your key so great you want to keep it anyway ? i bet you it wasn't gen'd on hardware rngs for instance. 346067;1381355135;kakobrekla;its not that i want to keep it 346068;1381355140;kakobrekla;i just want to define it 346069;1381355148;mircea_popescu;but whay ? 346070;1381355159;kakobrekla;so i can keep it! 346071;1381355163;jborkl;he meant defile it 346072;1381355168;pankkake;0 1 ∞ 346073;1381355178;mircea_popescu;you mean keep it as in backup it ? 346074;1381355179;Namworld;So he can keep using it/store it/transfer it to a replacement device 346075;1381355185;Namworld;Assuming he got an offline backup 346076;1381355204;mircea_popescu;one problem i see with this directly is that people will keep insecure copies and then go "o noes someone hacked my cardano and stole my key!11" 346077;1381355211;Namworld;And keep the Cardano while on the move 346078;1381355228;mircea_popescu;i think the better solution is to use a master and sign a cardano for the move. 346079;1381355232;kakobrekla;my copy is on paper and on a safe place 346080;1381355244;mircea_popescu;sorta use the cardano as a subbie in that context. 346081;1381355251;kakobrekla;and i want to keep that backup 346082;1381355257;Namworld;What if the master cardano breaks? 346083;1381355258;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla well i didn't mean you. i meant people! 346084;1381355266;Namworld;You're kind of screwed 346085;1381355269;mircea_popescu;Namworld master doesn't have to be a cardano necessarily. 346086;1381355276;Namworld;True 346087;1381355290;mircea_popescu;it can be, sure, but if you don't trust it you can just use it as a sub to your main key which you keep traditionally. 346088;1381355293;Namworld;Well I suppose that could work 346089;1381355298;Namworld;Definitly 346090;1381355317;kakobrekla;yet you cant use it for mpex if you dont have main key 346091;1381355325;kakobrekla;except if you reg a new key 346092;1381355328;mircea_popescu;you can as long as you reg it there. 346093;1381355341;kakobrekla;which is 'disposable' 346094;1381355345;kakobrekla;which sux 346095;1381355354;mircea_popescu;hm ? 346096;1381355383;kakobrekla;no way to have backup to mpex acc then 346097;1381355386;Namworld;If the cardano breaks, you're out of shares and need to pay for a new account. 346098;1381355386;kakobrekla;if the device breaks 346099;1381355390;Namworld;No backups 346100;1381355477;mircea_popescu;well yes, using a device of this type for that purpose seems like you're asking for trouble. 346101;1381355483;mike_c;the cardano should backup the private key to the cloud. 346102;1381355487;mike_c;(kidding) 346103;1381355489;kakobrekla;lol 346104;1381355500;mircea_popescu;sorta like carrying cats in your pant pocket 346105;1381355552;mircea_popescu;anyway, we'll get a better idea as to how reliable the things are after they've been in the wild a year or two. atm all i can say is they should be pretty reliable. 346106;1381355570;Vexual;prp? 346107;1381355609;kakobrekla;yeah its a serious device for serious security but its so serious you cant have backups and so its not usable for serious stuff. 346108;1381355618;kakobrekla;:p 346109;1381355628;mircea_popescu;it's so secret you can't have backups. 346110;1381355648;mircea_popescu;this is a frontline itam. you go into enemy territory with it. 346111;1381355655;mike_c;still.. a straight up better replacement for securID? 346112;1381355663;mircea_popescu;mike_c i think so. 346113;1381355670;mircea_popescu;also much better scp than scp. 346114;1381355677;mircea_popescu;also much better 2fa. 346115;1381355697;Vexual;i like the faraday cage bit 346116;1381355714;mircea_popescu;in principle you could design your garage door/house door to take a usb stick 346117;1381355722;mircea_popescu;and just open them with a purpose cardano. 346118;1381355728;Vexual;a thin lead case perhaps, so one can be sure it's in ones pocket 346119;1381355745;mircea_popescu;whiuch, even if someome smacks you over the head, can't be cloned 346120;1381355747;mircea_popescu;because no backup 346121;1381355762;kakobrekla;so they just terminate you on spot 346122;1381355767;kakobrekla;without giving you a chance! 346123;1381355768;kakobrekla;pft! 346124;1381355774;mircea_popescu;carry a bigger stick. 346125;1381355780;mircea_popescu;Cardano on a stick! 346126;1381355831;Vexual;my solar storm has begun 346127;1381355831;mike_c;another question you won't answer yet (even though potential investors would love to know), target release date? 346128;1381355857;mike_c;2013? 14? 15? 346129;1381355877;mike_c;well, not 13. 346130;1381355926;mircea_popescu;mike_c should be here before xmas, so you can all make nice gifts to peopkle. 346131;1381355930;mike_c;no way 346132;1381355933;mike_c;wow 346133;1381355933;mircea_popescu;yup/ 346134;1381355973;Vexual;how much? 346135;1381355990;mike_c;he's not saying yet 346136;1381356000;bitesak;Good evening ! will these devices be assembled in Romania? 346137;1381356021;mircea_popescu;bitesak they shall be assembled at a secret & undisclosed set of locartions 346138;1381356021;Vexual;made in notchina 346139;1381356027;mircea_popescu;for teh obvious reasons. 346140;1381356065;jborkl;http://175btc.com/ 346141;1381356069;mircea_popescu;Vexual nah, it's not oursourced. 346142;1381356073;mircea_popescu;we're actually making it. 346143;1381356078;Vexual;wise 346144;1381356079;jborkl;mircea - you in the pool with those guys 346145;1381356117;mircea_popescu;jborkl umm i can't read that stuff, what's it say ? 346146;1381356130;jborkl;I am just looking at the picture' 346147;1381356140;mircea_popescu;lol. 346148;1381356143;mircea_popescu;yeah. im the duck. 346149;1381356297;jborkl;I wonder why it is 3 white dudes and one mexican dude mining at a chinese pool? 346150;1381356307;jborkl;with martinis 346151;1381356315;jborkl;and a rubber ducky 346152;1381356334;Vexual;not a mexican, just a rich dude with a tan 346153;1381356362;jborkl;that one has the least amount of btc 346154;1381356400;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 12 @ 0.0088 = 0.1056 BTC [-] 346155;1381356440;Vexual;so it seems 346156;1381356520;mircea_popescu;lmao jborkl 346157;1381356544;mircea_popescu;the mexican is there to bean flavour the sausage soup they're making. 346158;1381356589;jborkl;They are all staring at each other and appear to be wearing lipstick :/ 346159;1381356612;jborkl;ok, who p2pd in the pool 346160;1381356647;pankkake;at least it wasn't a whale taking a dump 346161;1381357038;bitesak;would one be able to order and pay via fiat or is this strictly through bitcoin ? 346162;1381357115;Vexual;lol 346163;1381357132;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 601 @ 0.00853068 = 5.1269 BTC [-] {10} 346164;1381357220;mircea_popescu;bitesak bitcoin. 346165;1381357270;bitesak;this will help make GPG more accessible and usable 346166;1381357346;mircea_popescu;hopefully. 346167;1381357360;mircea_popescu;i would think you know, if anyone that groks gpg gives one to their numerous gfs 346168;1381357364;mircea_popescu;gpg could take over the world. 346169;1381357431;bitesak;precisely, I was speaking about GPG with my gf and this would be a good christmas gift 346170;1381357513;mircea_popescu;yeah cause very easy to use, very hard to fuck anything up. 346171;1381357544;bitesak;:) 346172;1381357602;bitesak;and thanks to Bitcoin_ 346173;1381357606;jborkl;http://forum.kncminer.com/album/4173-anyone-hashing-in-the-datacentre-yet 346174;1381357607;ozbot;anyone-hashing-in-the-datacentre-yet 346175;1381357634;jborkl;2 jupiters for 350gh - bam tearing it up 346176;1381357769;mircea_popescu;howlong have those been up ? 346177;1381357782;mircea_popescu;curious if anyone ran a knc thing for more than a week or so by now 346178;1381357800;Vexual;look for smoke signals 346179;1381358169;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.94 = 1.88 BTC [+] 346180;1381358296;FabianB;mircea_popescu: so this is a simplified and bigger version of http://www.gnupg.org/howtos/card-howto/en/smartcard-howto-single.html ? 346181;1381358370;mircea_popescu;as best i can see it has little in common really. 346182;1381358419;mircea_popescu;need not go any further than http://www.gnupg.org/howtos/card-howto/en/smartcard-howto-single.html#id2507296 346183;1381358423;mircea_popescu;that thing's a joke, really. 346184;1381358466;Vexual;will the girlfriend christmas package include lingerie, your email and a digital camera? 346185;1381358474;mircea_popescu;Vexual we're working on something. 346186;1381358488;Vexual;good, i like drama 346187;1381358585;FabianB;mircea_popescu: maybe, but there seem to be 4096 versions too, and can handle kakobreklas wish for programmability (which of course decreases security) 346188;1381358624;mircea_popescu;which kinda is the point. 346189;1381358652;asciilifeform;anybody make one with a zapper? 346190;1381358654;mircea_popescu;as best i can see the smartcard is a sort of fun and games project, let's play with smartcards. it doesn't have the critical features such as separation of key from slate. 346191;1381358667;mircea_popescu;such as hardware rng, such as the zapper yes, 346192;1381358679;mircea_popescu;it's a laundry list. 346193;1381358696;asciilifeform;only people I know who include the zapper are, well, classic NSA. and they don't have a retail store. 346194;1381358713;mircea_popescu;they do, but they only sell to iran 346195;1381358782;FabianB;what's a zapper? 346196;1381358801;Vexual;cyanide pill? 346197;1381358856;asciilifeform;Vexual: if you were to introduce key importation, the zapper would have to come with cyanide. 346198;1381358874;asciilifeform;whereas the answer to the inquisitor's 'where are the other copies' is correctly 'nowhere.' 346199;1381358897;Vexual;what is zapper? 346200;1381358917;Vexual;rom write? 346201;1381358921;bitesak;the ability to destroy the key? 346202;1381358930;asciilifeform;bitesak: we have a winner. 346203;1381358986;asciilifeform;see 'How does it work ?' section 'D'. 346204;1381359051;bitesak;good night ! 346205;1381359188;pankkake;well, I get the point of the device, but no backup is a dealbreaker for me 346206;1381359192;FabianB;mircea_popescu: hmm.. but could gpg's smarcard api be used with cardano for signing/encryption instead of copying files? 346207;1381359204;jurov;asciilifeform: you have not considered adding a display? it's the thing i like about trezor 346208;1381359222;jurov;so that stuff to be signed can be verified right on the device 346209;1381359228;mircea_popescu;FabianB perhaps. i'll have to look into that. 346210;1381359233;mircea_popescu;jurov he tried, but couldn't get it past me. 346211;1381359247;pankkake;also how do you communicate with it? you will need some software on the host? 346212;1381359256;jurov;pankkake: it's in tfa 346213;1381359261;mircea_popescu;pankkake nah, just normal stick 346214;1381359264;jurov;mircea and why not? 346215;1381359265;Vexual;add a discharge cap to smoke the usb hub just for fun 346216;1381359274;mircea_popescu;jurov cause i'm that kind of asshole. 346217;1381359337;pankkake;oh, you put your thing it its filesystem. clever 346218;1381359339;jurov;didn't you violate contract with this executive meddling? 346219;1381359360;mircea_popescu;no. my contract clearly states all employees must have unprotected sex with me. 346220;1381359363;mircea_popescu;it's written in blood. 346221;1381359370;Vexual;tansylvania style 346222;1381359392;pankkake;I guess you can write software using it, of course, but it's clever 346223;1381359400;jurov;poor stanislav... 346224;1381359420;mircea_popescu;pankkake yeah the idea is, you can make a simple bash script to backup sites 346225;1381359429;mircea_popescu;without relying on any outside protection. 346226;1381359433;mircea_popescu;that's a good usecase, you know ? 346227;1381359450;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2750 @ 0.00085157 = 2.3418 BTC [+] {2} 346228;1381359456;pankkake;how would it work, to encrypt a, say, 4 GB file? 346229;1381359493;mircea_popescu;the encrypt is not handled by the cardano 346230;1381359500;mircea_popescu;decription admittedly may take a minute at that size. 346231;1381359511;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3450 @ 0.00085214 = 2.9399 BTC [+] {2} 346232;1381359514;pankkake;oh I'm dumb. you only need the pubkey for that 346233;1381359520;mircea_popescu;:p 346234;1381359528;pankkake;but yeah, the decryption then… 346235;1381359545;pankkake;it would have to work in a "streaming" way 346236;1381359563;pankkake;and I don't think you can do that with a filesystem 346237;1381359564;mircea_popescu;why ? 346238;1381359578;mircea_popescu;(why streaming) 346239;1381359579;pankkake;does the cardana have gigabytes of storage? 346240;1381359584;pankkake;cardano* 346241;1381359607;mircea_popescu;C) Working slate ROM. This Flash ROM is removable, and may be inspected or replacedx by customers either before deploying the unit or at any point during. 346242;1381359616;mircea_popescu;if it doesn't you can solder your own in. 346243;1381359628;mircea_popescu;o wait. no need to solder, cause nsa made it replaceable. 346244;1381359678;pankkake;ROM is Read Only Memory right? so I don't get it 346245;1381359710;mircea_popescu;it's the same thing you find if you crack open any usb stick 346246;1381359727;pankkake;I wouldn't call it ROM 346247;1381359733;mircea_popescu;>< 346248;1381359739;mircea_popescu;but then again you're french. 346249;1381359740;Vexual;cdr is rom 346250;1381359749;pankkake;well you're ROManian… 346251;1381359753;jurov;mircea_popescu: really, what happens if i put on it 4GB file to decrypt? where will it put the decrypted file? 346252;1381359774;mircea_popescu;jurov well hopefully it has a 8gb slate, it puts it right there 346253;1381359785;mircea_popescu;pankkake no srsly, it's what they're called. 346254;1381359794;jurov;especially if gpg compressed it while encrypting 346255;1381359802;pankkake;I guess (looking at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_memory) 346256;1381359815;pankkake;but you will confuse people. Flash memory could be clearer 346257;1381359834;mircea_popescu;ram is volatile, rom is not volatile. it's what the words mean. 346258;1381359844;mircea_popescu;if it confuses people it's because people gotta learn what the words mean. 346259;1381359864;pankkake;anyway, I think an optional, streaming interface would be good 346260;1381359877;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 26 @ 0.0089858 = 0.2336 BTC [+] {3} 346261;1381359879;Vexual;3 letter? didn't read, too long 346262;1381359900;mircea_popescu;pankkake maybe, but it'd be a diff product. this one separates itself from computer when touching the key, 346263;1381359913;mircea_popescu;so as to rpotect from a variety of snooping techniques such as diff analysis from the host. 346264;1381359951;pankkake;it doesn't have to be different - it would simply be another service provided by the device; and would probably provide less attack vectors than the filesystem 346265;1381359974;pankkake;I mean, it can perfectly provide both 346266;1381359989;jurov;oh, and have you considered safely erasing decrypted stuff once it is used? 346267;1381360012;mircea_popescu;jurov the writing scheme is most-used rather than least-used 346268;1381360026;mircea_popescu;consequently, you can trash the bits yourself by repeatedly copying/deleting a file to it. 346269;1381360038;pankkake;jurov: there is actually a better way: use a one-time-encryption key for the filesystem. each time you reboot it, it is effectively erased 346270;1381360049;mircea_popescu;pankkake it's never rebooted. 346271;1381360060;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 43 @ 0.008989 = 0.3865 BTC [+] 346272;1381360061;pankkake;then unmount/remount 346273;1381360066;pankkake;just forget the password 346274;1381360082;mircea_popescu;something like that. 346275;1381360101;Vexual;call it solid state, it sounds more expensive than rom or flash 346276;1381360103;jurov;hmmmm... cuz safely erasing today's wear-levelled flash memory is non-trivial endeavor 346277;1381360118;pankkake;it's less IO expensive than erasing the data (but more CPU expensive as anything written is encrypted) 346278;1381360122;jurov;or you use something custom? 346279;1381360126;mircea_popescu;jurov which is why this is optimised the opposite way. it will wear down the bits. 346280;1381360136;mircea_popescu;yes, tis custom. 346281;1381360201;pankkake;custom how? 346282;1381360213;mircea_popescu;custom as in, it optimises for maximum wear. 346283;1381360227;mircea_popescu;as opposed to how commercial flash drioves work (optimised for least wear) 346284;1381360258;pankkake;doesn't really respond to the "is the decrypted data recoverable" 346285;1381360266;jurov;^this 346286;1381360283;mircea_popescu;it does. if you are concerned about this point, copy a file repeatedly until the bits die, and so then it won't be. 346287;1381360286;mircea_popescu;if you're not, you're not. 346288;1381360321;pankkake;that sucks, and as stated, you have ways to make the concern go away *and* not wear the thing 346289;1381360342;mircea_popescu;sometime life sucks. 346290;1381360402;pankkake;your product is flawed, there are easy ways to fix it and yet… no? 346291;1381360449;mircea_popescu;the product is fine. you have an issue being somehow convinced you can design stuff while simultaneously not having a clue what rom is. 346292;1381360457;mircea_popescu;this issue is not of the world. 346293;1381360515;pankkake;and I'm only getting evasing responses now. pathetic 346294;1381360522;mircea_popescu;mkay. 346295;1381360538;Vexual;associates seeking similar outcomes leaving earth 346296;1381360562;jurov;Vexual: it's your brainwallet? 346297;1381360572;Vexual;whoops wrong window 346298;1381360592;mircea_popescu;if it is he has no btc ;/ 346299;1381360607;Vexual;ASSOLE 346300;1381360609;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1050 @ 0.00085235 = 0.895 BTC [+] 346301;1381360777;nubbins`;heuristic outcomes 346302;1381360821;Vexual;nice. i couldnt think of a suitable h 346303;1381360828;jurov;pankkake, we'll see when the design will come out... 346304;1381360838;pankkake;it's not hard to give clear answers 346305;1381360842;jurov;if it really it will be required to run shred /dev/sdf; mkdosfs /dev/sdf every time 346306;1381360858;jurov;then i guess bigger animals than us will start making fun of it 346307;1381360869;mircea_popescu;jurov there's a lot of sales copy there but i dunno how it's supposed to work/be implemented. 346308;1381360872;mircea_popescu;so i have no idea. 346309;1381360890;pankkake;"I don't know" is a better answer than "it's fine" when it's not 346310;1381360920;mircea_popescu;pankkake listen man, sometimes you will confront this situation where your imagination does not meet reality. people will tell you this, you will have to somehow digest it. 346311;1381360930;mircea_popescu;there's no way around it, and petulence certainly ain't it. 346312;1381360998;jurov;whose petulance? 346313;1381361033;mircea_popescu;the definition of petulence is "i've not done anything to date but i will declare your item "flawed" because i am upset that you don't agree with what i think is the case". 346314;1381361043;pankkake;again, if your product has no instand erase of its decrypted contents, it loses a great deal of attractivity - telling users they have to shred themselves is far away from the goal of having an easy secure device 346315;1381361068;mircea_popescu;can you quote where this goal you imagine for me was stated ? 346316;1381361126;jurov; yeah cause very easy to use, very hard to fuck anything up. 346317;1381361156;mircea_popescu;hardly a goal. but anyway, let's go throuigh the thing to make sure we're all on the same page, har har. 346318;1381361169;mircea_popescu;if you have remote control of the connected pc, but no physical control of the stick, 346319;1381361173;pankkake;and the worst thing is, it's not a big deal to fix. there is no reason to start going all like "it's not a problem" 346320;1381361178;mircea_popescu;you can't read the deleted part of the work slate. 346321;1381361195;mircea_popescu;if you have physical control of the stick, you can remove the working slate, but still can't read it, because it has a cypher. 346322;1381361196;pankkake;you can read the raw filesystem of usb sticks 346323;1381361225;mircea_popescu;if you are real good and manage to extracrt the cypher out of the chip and decode the working slate, you might be able to read whatever's not been destroyed on the drive. 346324;1381361253;mircea_popescu;the definitive protection to this is a) don't lose physical control of the stick and b) destroy the slate. 346325;1381361272;mircea_popescu;this is how the thing is intended to work. there aren't and won't be unrelated cases glued on because people think they're cool. 346326;1381361281;mircea_popescu;because this isn't a cool thing, this is a useful thing. 346327;1381361285;pankkake;no, you can simply read the whole filesystem silently, when it is plugged 346328;1381361293;mircea_popescu;and you know this because ? 346329;1381361303;pankkake;because that's how USB Mass Storage works 346330;1381361320;mircea_popescu;right-o. 346331;1381361327;asciilifeform;ok I should probably chime in here. Easy answer: 346332;1381361340;asciilifeform;we have a session block cipher key for working slate in SRAM 346333;1381361354;mircea_popescu;bah ruining all my fun. 346334;1381361355;pankkake;asciilifeform: wow, so… that what I was proposing! 346335;1381361383;pankkake;see? don't deny the issue, especially if it is already fixed 346336;1381361390;mircea_popescu;eh get out 346337;1381361394;mircea_popescu;i gotta make this guy sign an nda. 346338;1381361464;mircea_popescu;pankkake : did you read the "At the end of this procedure, the working slate will have been re-formatted, and will appear empty - as Cardano no longer possesses the old block-cipher key." part ? 346339;1381361491;asciilifeform;without saying much more, the quick answer is: if some part of the draft spec seems illogical / bizzare / 'couldn't physically wurk', the answer is generally 'the obvious fix.' 346340;1381361514;pankkake;no. I TL;DRed it. but that was no reason to say that my concern was invalid - it was valid, and actually taken care of 346341;1381361523;mircea_popescu;which means it's invalid. 346342;1381361564;pankkake;ugh… 346343;1381361657;Vexual;sscience 346344;1381361728;Vexual;can i get a 9 pin plug instread of usb? :) 346345;1381361759;pankkake;you mean a 9 in plug? 346346;1381361767;asciilifeform;Vexual: for your VT-100? 346347;1381361786;Vexual;yeah im saving up for a new computer 346348;1381361847;nubbins`;hey! my bitbet was accepted 346349;1381361856;nubbins`;thrilling 346350;1381361924;mircea_popescu;how did that happen! 346351;1381361940;mircea_popescu;and i gave clear orders no futher bets to be accepted!!1 the entire system is breaking down! 346352;1381361948;nubbins`;lel 346353;1381361966;Vexual;whats the bet? 346354;1381361975;nubbins`;http://bitbet.us/bet/552/havelock-will-announce-us-restrictions-by-guy-fawkes/ 346355;1381361976;ozbot;BitBet - Havelock will announce US restrictions by Guy Fawkes Night 346356;1381362017;nubbins`;it's en vogue these days 346357;1381362063;Vexual;are you the no nubs? 346358;1381362101;nubbins`;not sure how to answer 346359;1381362105;nubbins`;oh! 346360;1381362107;nubbins`;lel 346361;1381362108;nubbins`;no 346362;1381362126;nubbins`;i thought you were asking if i didn't have any nubs 346363;1381362128;pankkake;while the "ASICMINER weekly dividend drops below 0.005 per share in 2013" was getting rejected it is now too late, as the last one was 0.004 346364;1381362173;kakobrekla;http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/10/09/oops-azerbaijan-released-election-results-before-voting-had-even-started/ 346365;1381362174;ozbot;Oops: Azerbaijan released election results before voting had even started 346366;1381362181;nubbins`;hah 346367;1381362226;Vexual;private fibre 346368;1381362227;asciilifeform;speaking of Azerbaijan, has anyone here done the TOR exercise suggested in MP's comments? 346369;1381362248;nubbins`;which exercise is that? 346370;1381362301;mircea_popescu;lol azerbaijan govt is truely efficient. 346371;1381362308;asciilifeform;http://trilema.com/2013/dear-guardian-stop-being-retarded/#comment-95409 346372;1381362308;ozbot;Dear Guardian : stop being retarded. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 346373;1381362334;nubbins`;someone mentioned it earlier today 346374;1381362394;pankkake;given I know people who had police visits quickly after running exit nodes, I won't 346375;1381362416;asciilifeform;don't do it on a residential pipe. 346376;1381362438;pankkake;and probably don't do it on your name, but with some kind of legal shield 346377;1381362439;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.36110131 BTC [+] 346378;1381362444;pankkake;I mean, legal entity 346379;1381362447;Vexual;more 802.11s! 346380;1381362476;asciilifeform;it is best done under the flag of an organization existing for some other not entirely related purpose. 346381;1381362496;asciilifeform;with the commander's approval, naturally 346382;1381362518;asciilifeform;or if you're a cheapo you can just rent an Amazon EC2 instance. 346383;1381362526;asciilifeform;they Officially love TOR. 346384;1381362537;pankkake;won't Amazon rat you out? 346385;1381362558;asciilifeform;last i checked tor exits were explicitly permitted in their TOS 346386;1381362561;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.42999999 = 0.86 BTC [+] {2} 346387;1381362562;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 33 @ 0.11248786 = 3.7121 BTC [-] {8} 346388;1381362572;asciilifeform;the fact of them sneaking a peek at your results if they feel like it is another matter. 346389;1381362602;pankkake;having the server pulled off isn't the real concern, the real concern is them giving your personal info to the police 346390;1381362610;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform don't you find that amazon love quite damning ? 346391;1381362618;asciilifeform;and if you diddle traffic in an easily detected way, TOR foundation will add your node to its blacklist. 346392;1381362619;pankkake;there are many other providers who explicitely say TOR is OK 346393;1381362622;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 22 @ 0.10165454 = 2.2364 BTC [-] {5} 346394;1381362623;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.43 = 0.86 BTC [+] 346395;1381362643;mircea_popescu;pankkake like who ? (i've not been watching this any) 346396;1381362650;pankkake;some others that automatically shut you down (I know one who monitors for both TOR and Freenet) 346397;1381362668;asciilifeform;there is no shortage of damning. TOR's authors really love it when you run it on VPS hosts, saves them some $ on running their own diddled nodes. 346398;1381362683;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00085235 = 0.8524 BTC [+] 346399;1381362709;pankkake;https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/GoodBadISPs 346400;1381362720;pankkake;I'm running a relay on an EDIS node 346401;1381362738;mircea_popescu;Arvixe (hosting) Openly and respectfully state that while they dont permit a TOR exit on shared hosting accounts, you are very welcome to run one on a VPS account. 346402;1381362740;mircea_popescu;nice. 346403;1381362758;asciilifeform;'shared hosting' typically means no persistent processes 346404;1381362767;asciilifeform;so, no IRC either, etc 346405;1381362800;pankkake;hehe, I remember when you could rent "shells" and the number of resident processes was limited 346406;1381362832;pankkake;for the same price you can probably get a dedicated server now 346407;1381362863;asciilifeform;my advice to anyone who does the exercise is to look up what happened to the Swedish fellow who did likewise and published the results in an academic paper. 346408;1381362891;asciilifeform;and then draw appropriate conclusions. 346409;1381362917;Vexual;you can kiss those 4 centibits goodbye nubbins 346410;1381362931;pankkake;anyway, the tor list of isps is a good source even if you don't care for TOR 346411;1381362978;asciilifeform;the TOR source is a good source even for those who don't care for TOR 346412;1381363009;asciilifeform;it is one thing to say 'gotta be a honeypot, bureaucrats wrote it' and another to see just how the pot is intended to function 346413;1381363015;asciilifeform;and under what conditions it is usable as something else. 346414;1381363023;pankkake;http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2007/11/swedish-researc/ him? 346415;1381363023;ozbot;Tor Researcher Who Exposed Embassy E-mail Passwords Gets Raided by Swedish FBI and CIA | Threat Leve 346416;1381363032;asciilifeform;yes, him. 346417;1381363054;Vexual;no wait, the other ways around 346418;1381363062;pankkake;the tor project explicitely says you should not trust exit nodes 346419;1381363083;asciilifeform;it says quite a few things 346420;1381363096;asciilifeform;such as, for instance, that a healthy person should eschew Winblows 346421;1381363110;asciilifeform;words are cheap. 346422;1381363126;pankkake;TBB ships with HTTPS anywhere, not that it is enough… 346423;1381363150;pankkake;actually, even torbrowser on linux is quite risky 346424;1381363165;pankkake;unless you forbid any non-tor traffic, like Tails does 346425;1381363230;asciilifeform;anyone who even thinks of 'browser' when thinking about TOR, etc. is already in a state of damnation. 346426;1381363268;pankkake;what do you mean? 346427;1381363339;asciilifeform;refer to the 'dumb users' section of the latest TOR dirt leak (even if you believe that the 'leak' is disinfo, the section applies to most users.) 346428;1381363373;asciilifeform;so consider the case of a TORist who proceeds to log into gmail, etc. while on a circuit 346429;1381363380;asciilifeform;game over. 346430;1381363400;asciilifeform;or the similar case of 'cookies' enabled 346431;1381363414;pankkake;right 346432;1381363459;pankkake;that's why Tails is great: use it to do your thing and this only 346433;1381363537;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.9530003 = 1.906 BTC [+] 346434;1381363598;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 42 @ 0.00866 = 0.3637 BTC [-] 346435;1381363623;blastbob1;i was dreaming about a irc based exchange on the tor network 346436;1381363659;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.9530002 BTC [-] 346437;1381363713;pankkake;hmm and you would put orders through bots? 346438;1381363718;blastbob1;yea 346439;1381363720;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.953 BTC [-] 346440;1381363725;pankkake;I like it - tor or not 346441;1381363732;blastbob1;faster than any web on tor atleast 346442;1381363749;kakobrekla;assbot speaks mpex 346443;1381363750;pankkake;I don't like websites or browsers, so :) 346444;1381363751;mircea_popescu;blastbob1 you are aware this is how mpex works yes ? 346445;1381363768;kakobrekla;:p 346446;1381363769;blastbob1;heard some rumours yes 346447;1381363799;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/the-many-ways-available-for-talking-to-mpex/ 346448;1381363800;ozbot;The many ways available for talking to MPEx pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 346449;1381363806;mircea_popescu;there, spec. why live on rumors. 346450;1381363903;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 51 @ 0.00867 = 0.4422 BTC [+] 346451;1381363929;blastbob1;Can you accually buy and sell with it also? 346452;1381363958;mircea_popescu;yup 346453;1381363991;pankkake;$proxies 346454;1381363992;mpexbot;pankkake: ["http://mpex.co", "http://mpex.ws", "http://mpex.bz", "http://mpex.coinbr.com", "http://mpex6.coinbr.com"] 346455;1381364163;kakobrekla;i hear rumours? 346456;1381364164;kakobrekla;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJJnJJFCyl4 346457;1381364165;ozbot;Awesome - Rumours - YouTube 346458;1381364245;Azelphur;proxies? have places started blocking mpex? XD 346459;1381364265;pankkake;simply prepare for the worst 346460;1381364274;Azelphur;ah 346461;1381364343;kakobrekla;most of those are offline 346462;1381364345;kakobrekla;proxies 346463;1381364352;pankkake;is that indented? 346464;1381364357;pankkake;intended 346465;1381364360;kakobrekla;i doubt 346466;1381364361;Azelphur;mircea_popescu: I spot a kivy screenshot 346467;1381364369;Azelphur;:) 346468;1381364412;nubbins`;Vexual: not my bitcents! i'm in it to win it 346469;1381364429;Vexual;yes well you must have seen snl last week too nubbins 346470;1381364442;nubbins`;sadly, no :( 346471;1381364463;Vexual;the thinking persons merican news and currnt affairs 346472;1381364476;nubbins`;i thought that was the onion 346473;1381364521;Vexual;no thats just to confuse old people 346474;1381364536;nubbins`;ah! i have so much to learn 346475;1381364560;nubbins`;i get most of my news through the glorious red lens of the canadian broadcasting corporation 346476;1381364595;Vexual;the red lens is the bc bud? 346477;1381364629;nubbins`;i was referring to their strong slant to the left 346478;1381364653;nubbins`;although i think i recall that in other places red is the right-wing color of choice? 346479;1381364660;nubbins`;hard to keep track 346480;1381364691;mircea_popescu;Azelphur hm ? 346481;1381364699;Azelphur;in your blog post 346482;1381364701;Azelphur;I spy python+kivy 346483;1381364706;mircea_popescu;o. 346484;1381364726;Azelphur;http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/mpex_droid.png 346485;1381364740;mircea_popescu;yeh 346486;1381364752;mircea_popescu;some people don't know the glory of perl 346487;1381364828;Azelphur;you mean, the terribleness 346488;1381364882;mircea_popescu;:p 346489;1381364891;mircea_popescu;im in such a trollish mood today 346490;1381364913;Vexual;tell that to a t1000 terminator, theyre all perl 346491;1381364952;nubbins`;i thought they were written in RPG IV 346492;1381365132;pankkake;you can run a kivy application on a desktop too? 346493;1381365158;nubbins`;sure 346494;1381365172;mircea_popescu;you can run anything on linux. 346495;1381365176;mircea_popescu;that is what the word means. 346496;1381365262;pankkake;I knew it mostly as a way to write Android applications in Python. if it can run without the android crap, it's great 346497;1381365326;mircea_popescu;i think it's pretty much useful as a way to write for smartphones, but it does run in linux. 346498;1381365337;mircea_popescu;which means it can be run on the toaster oven or w/e. 346499;1381365455;mircea_popescu;Vexual http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontiac_T1000 ? 346500;1381365479;pankkake;well I'm on a project where most of GUIs suck, and we only support one dead mobile platform. kivy was on our radars 346501;1381365501;mircea_popescu;jesus that sounds bad. 346502;1381365522;pankkake;not really. we're like mpex, mostly CLIs :p 346503;1381365527;Vexual;also not actualy self aware 346504;1381365590;mircea_popescu;aok 346505;1381365678;pankkake;looks like no java required for kivy on desktop. yay 346506;1381365752;mircea_popescu;nope. it's a decent tool. 346507;1381366221;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 32 @ 0.00881 = 0.2819 BTC [-] 346508;1381366239;mircea_popescu;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_that_most_frequently_use_the_word_%22fuck%22 346509;1381366251;mircea_popescu;apparently wikipedia has one good article on it. 346510;1381366384;nubbins`;"This is a list of non-pornographic, English language films" 346511;1381366423;pankkake;FPM is a good unit 346512;1381366489;pankkake;there's also youtube videos with only the fucks 346513;1381366531;mircea_popescu;the fuckdebit 346514;1381366548;nubbins`;f/m^2 as the fucks accelerate 346515;1381366578;pankkake;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jSMTcx69-Q 346516;1381366578;ozbot;Jay And Silent Bob Strike Back: The F*cking Short Version - YouTube 346517;1381366966;mircea_popescu;english is so banal. i can only imagine what that'd have sounded like in romanian. 346518;1381367017;pankkake;indeed, I wonder if other language have such a popular curse worse 346519;1381367100;pankkake;word* 346520;1381367105;pankkake;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vM8Mq4yz2Hw (though the joke is also the translation) 346521;1381367106;ozbot;fuck you - YouTube 346522;1381367151;mircea_popescu;m'embeterai 346523;1381367153;mircea_popescu;lmao 346524;1381367170;pankkake;it's funny because it's true. French translations are pretty tame 346525;1381367237;pankkake;saperlipopette ! 346526;1381367283;mircea_popescu;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNOdcBUJ3eU 346527;1381367284;ozbot;injuraturi - YouTube 346528;1381367289;mircea_popescu;this is one of the better romanian strings. 346529;1381367303;mircea_popescu;interestingly, the chick is actually french and she doesn't speak romanian. learned it phonetically. 346530;1381367333;pankkake;nice 346531;1381367388;mircea_popescu;(Marthe Felten) 346532;1381367455;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6dgOu6sj9Y 346533;1381367456;ozbot;Hercules Returns: "Testiculi's father".. Part 1 - YouTube 346534;1381367485;nubbins`;huh, virtex is issuing debit cards now 346535;1381367497;nubbins`;cool 346536;1381367503;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 26 @ 0.008989 = 0.2337 BTC [+] 346537;1381367546;Lennix;any updates from ukto regarding refunding the bugged fees? 346538;1381367552;pankkake;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYoeBn247CU that movie is an insult goldmine and a classic 346539;1381367685;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 34 @ 0.009 = 0.306 BTC [+] {3} 346540;1381367695;mircea_popescu;According to Pileggi, Scorsese cold-called the writer and told him, "I've been waiting for this book my entire life." To which Pileggi replied "I've been waiting for this phone call my entire life". 346541;1381368055;pankkake;I'm becoming addicted to zero fee transactions. it's like gambling except you eventually win 346542;1381368385;kakobrekla;coincontrol build is perfect for that 346543;1381368404;kakobrekla;you can easily add bloat btc to make it free 346544;1381368416;kakobrekla;or select apropriate input 346545;1381368445;pankkake;it's how I chose the amounts I bitbet usually, I take a full input :) 346546;1381368500;mircea_popescu;it does have a cost tho 346547;1381368501;kakobrekla;you can do 1 satoshi tx and attach 100 btc to it for bloat and its free 346548;1381368506;Vexual;a satoshi saved is a satoshi earned 346549;1381368508;mircea_popescu;in the sense that old coinbase are worth that many btcdays 346550;1381368551;pankkake;indeed. I was actually thinking of how a service could try to lower its fees by coinbase optimization 346551;1381368598;kakobrekla;have one big input of 1k btc and shave off btc 346552;1381368607;kakobrekla;change address always self 346553;1381368626;pankkake;if the change address is self, then it's still considered old? 346554;1381368635;Vexual;no 346555;1381368640;kakobrekla;nop 346556;1381368654;pankkake;that's why I thought of having multiple old coinbases, of many values 346557;1381368666;kakobrekla;just make it big enough 346558;1381368668;Vexual;1000 btc ages quickly 346559;1381368686;pankkake;oh, the bigger it is, the faster it ages? 346560;1381368707;kakobrekla;"btcdays" is the unit 346561;1381368718;kakobrekla;1 btc per day 346562;1381368722;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.13085 BTC [+] 346563;1381368723;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 29800 @ 0.00018099 = 5.3935 BTC [-] {4} 346564;1381368724;kakobrekla;0.5 btc would take 2 days 346565;1381368730;kakobrekla;2 btc would take half a day 346566;1381368754;pankkake;I see. cool. I wasn't able to find a good documentation on the matter earlier 346567;1381368796;kakobrekla;;;calc (60*60*24)/1000 346568;1381368797;gribble;86.4 346569;1381368808;kakobrekla;looks like 86 seconds for a 1k 346570;1381368850;kakobrekla;a sendtomany every block easy 346571;1381369210;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 14 @ 0.008821 = 0.1235 BTC [-] 346572;1381369218;Vexual;hows the 250k block gonna work in 5 years? 346573;1381369276;Vexual;plebs will only be able to send coins using services affiliated with mining conglomerates? 346574;1381369372;mircea_popescu;pretty much 346575;1381369521;Vexual;cool, im gonna buy noumea so i can learn improper french properly 346576;1381369759;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.43 = 2.15 BTC [+] 346577;1381369928;pankkake;;;bc,stats 346578;1381369931;gribble;Current Blocks: 262659 | Current Difficulty: 1.8928124928103292E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 264095 | Next Difficulty In: 1436 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 1 hour, 37 minutes, and 4 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 220202781.137 | Estimated Percent Change: 16.33629 346579;1381370308;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 85 @ 0.009 = 0.765 BTC [+] {2} 346580;1381370547;nubbins`;anyone feel like fielding a couple of questions about coloured coins? 346581;1381370860;Jere_Jones;Anyone know what's going on whty Ukyo lately? 346582;1381370876;Jere_Jones;s/whty/with 346583;1381370959;Vexual;hes maybe moving to okinawa 346584;1381370979;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.009 = 0.36 BTC [+] 346585;1381371019;Vexual;waiting on a visa for his cat 346586;1381371052;Jere_Jones;He seems to be MIA for over a week now. 346587;1381371052;Vexual;biosecurity is pretty big in japan 346588;1381371222;mircea_popescu;;;seen ukyo 346589;1381371222;gribble;ukyo was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 3 days, 20 hours, 26 minutes, and 51 seconds ago: So speculate all you want. :) 346590;1381371226;mircea_popescu;;;seen ukto 346591;1381371226;gribble;ukto was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 2 days, 17 hours, 12 minutes, and 18 seconds ago: yeah. there are easier ways. :) 346592;1381371227;nubbins`;after an admittedly short search, i wasn't able to find a whole lot of technical info on the theory behind colored coins, but i found this odd snippet in a paper: 346593;1381371228;mircea_popescu;hm 346594;1381371244;Vexual;im joking people, hes moving to tokyo 346595;1381371247;nubbins`;"A valid Bitcoin transaction which does not follow the special colored format, will be recognized by the Bitcoin network, but not as a legitimate color-preserving transaction by the colored coin network. The color of these coins will be lost, and hence users and software clients need to be careful to avoid doing this and losing their value." 346596;1381371251;Vexual;cat is true 346597;1381371281;nubbins`;but why the fuck would you design it in such a way that the "color of the coins" (i.e. your shares in company x or whatever) could ever be lost? 346598;1381371285;nubbins`;it boggles me 346599;1381371294;Vexual;otherwise its racist? 346600;1381371323;Vexual;couloured coins isn't even a thing 346601;1381371328;nubbins`;that's it 346602;1381371334;nubbins`;it's because shit like i pasted doesn't make sense 346603;1381371348;nubbins`;and things that don't make sense don't get implemented 346604;1381371357;pankkake;why even use the bitcoin blockchain? 346605;1381371366;nubbins`;hash power! 346606;1381371370;pankkake;merged mining! 346607;1381371388;nubbins`;separate blockchain would be vulnerable to 51% attacks 346608;1381371388;pankkake;well, ok, you have to add incentives to merge mine it 346609;1381371399;nubbins`;but let's say i own 100 shares in company x 346610;1381371406;Vexual;le nuage 346611;1381371426;nubbins`;why can't i just send pankkake a dust transaction with "xfer 100 S.GEM" in the note field? 346612;1381371430;mircea_popescu;nubbins` because idiots. 346613;1381371444;mircea_popescu;see also 346614;1381371447;mircea_popescu;;;google why i nixed 346615;1381371447;nubbins`;i mean, if the idea behind colored coins is that you have to make this huge tree of transactions that have some sort of magic dust in them 346616;1381371447;gribble;nixed - definition of nixed by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus ...: ; Why I nixed p2p, colored coins and all that jazz pe Trilema - Un blog ...: ; Why I Nixed the Knicks | The New York Observer: 346617;1381371465;nubbins`;why not tie the shares to the address, not to any particular coins? 346618;1381371509;nubbins`;i send a dust tx to address 1abc, with note "xfer 100 s.gem", so address 1abc is assumed to always possess those 100 shares, permanently 346619;1381371510;nubbins`;no losing them 346620;1381371535;nubbins`;until they send a dust tx to someone else saying xfer 50 s.gem or whatever 346621;1381371554;pankkake;from what I understand, colored coins aren't much better than asicminer-style direct shares 346622;1381371559;nubbins`;tying assets to individual coins and not addresses doesn't make any sense 346623;1381371587;nubbins`;the only thing direct shares need is a way to post bids and asks 346624;1381371598;nubbins`;without relying on a website 346625;1381371695;mircea_popescu;because the handkling of fixed addresses is poorly understood because, again, idiots. 346626;1381371768;pankkake;I'm still waiting for any technical insight on colored coins, so far I only see circlejerks (like the reddit shirt fundraiser) 346627;1381371784;nubbins`;nothing that couldn't be trivially implemented in any desktop or web-based bitcoin client 346628;1381371806;nubbins`;another tab next to "receive money" on your blockchain.info account 346629;1381371897;mircea_popescu;nubbins` here's the thing : if you do it with addresses you don't really need the blockchain, might as well do it to gpg signatures. 346630;1381371911;mircea_popescu;which reduces to a slightly braindamaged reimplementation of mpex. 346631;1381371969;nubbins`;mpex servers melt tomorrow, no trading; i can still send a dust tx to transfer my colored address shares 346632;1381372014;Vexual;you got a dude with an ak guarding your private key? 346633;1381372025;nubbins`;i'm assuming you keep records of who owns what? suppose you didn't have to 346634;1381372029;nubbins`;Vexual: don't we all? 346635;1381372046;Vexual;few do 346636;1381372070;mircea_popescu;nubbins` you can, but you have an escrow problem each time you do. 346637;1381372107;nubbins`;escrow is a problem? 346638;1381372117;mircea_popescu;yes, escrow is a problem. 346639;1381372169;nubbins`;multi-sig transactions 346640;1381372199;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 58 @ 0.009 = 0.522 BTC [+] 346641;1381372207;mircea_popescu;multi-sig txs are not a solution to the escrow problem really. 346642;1381372210;Vexual;og blockchain is the gold standard, accept no substitutes 346643;1381372234;mircea_popescu;they;'re a useful tool in some contexts, but you still need to have an escrow agent 346644;1381372239;mircea_popescu;if that agent melts down... no transactions. 346645;1381372248;mircea_popescu;which brings you back to exactly where we started. 346646;1381372280;Vexual;whats the point? 346647;1381372281;nubbins`;if the transacting parties agree, there's no need for the escrow agent at all, but you're correct in that the system would hinge on having a supply of readily-available escrow agents 346648;1381372302;mircea_popescu;yeah. 346649;1381372311;nubbins`;although 346650;1381372323;nubbins`;it's trivial to verify a legit tx 346651;1381372337;mircea_popescu;depends on the state of the blockchain at that time 346652;1381372342;mircea_popescu;if it's forked, it may be impossible. 346653;1381372360;nubbins`;well, if it's forked, lots of things are impossible 346654;1381372365;mircea_popescu;not for mpex. 346655;1381372386;mircea_popescu;moreover, you will have a sensible delay in all trades. what's better, one day a year of no trading or half hour lost to settle each individual trade ? 346656;1381372431;nubbins`;hm 346657;1381372507;mircea_popescu;today is like design 101 day 346658;1381372553;Vexual;got a logo yet? 346659;1381372555;pankkake;from what I see, this is going the way of the decentralized facebook 346660;1381372574;nubbins`;y'know, i think everything but the delay could be worked around 346661;1381372574;mircea_popescu;just about. decentralised trust is about as clever as decentralised cunt. 346662;1381372578;mircea_popescu;you got nothing to rub against. 346663;1381372601;mircea_popescu;in unrelated news, http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2013/10/08/are-anti-bullying-programs-having-an-opposite-effect/ 346664;1381372618;pankkake;are anti-whatever programs having an opposite effect? yes 346665;1381372685;mircea_popescu;Vexual logo for what you mean ? 346666;1381372693;pankkake;colored coins? 346667;1381372700;pankkake;it's the first step to any successful project! 346668;1381372710;nubbins`;the logo looks horrible in my head 346669;1381372722;Vexual;nothing to rub against, that bests beans in the sausage soup 346670;1381372728;Vexual;lmao 346671;1381372748;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 600 @ 0.00123997 = 0.744 BTC [+] {3} 346672;1381372753;Kleeck_;LOL: oops! http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/10/09/oops-azerbaijan-released-election-results-before-voting-had-even-started/ 346673;1381372760;pankkake;http://mpex.co/favicon.ico even MPEx has a logo! 346674;1381372884;pankkake;http://bitcoin-assets.com/static/mpex-248x50.png eh, still horrible 346675;1381372953;Vexual;i mean logo for beardy italian gpg stick 346676;1381372960;[\];people still use favicon? 346677;1381372968;nubbins`;faviconcoin 346678;1381372977;pankkake;why wouldn't you have favicons? 346679;1381372996;nubbins`;having no favicon implies boorishness 346680;1381373823;Vexual;if i may suggest, a bearded italian 346681;1381373859;Vexual;im pretty sure theres no copywrite on those images 346682;1381373918;mircea_popescu;which ? 346683;1381374023;Vexual;the name of the guy, who your gpg key is named after, whos name i forget becuase i didn't know of him before 346684;1381374047;asciilifeform;Vexual: he is also known for inventing... the crankshaft. 346685;1381374053;Vexual;really? 346686;1381374069;Vexual;i must have really skimmed wikipedia that time 346687;1381374088;mircea_popescu;i have no idea what's going on... 346688;1381374104;asciilifeform;well, the modern version thereof 346689;1381374167;Vexual;whats the name again? 346690;1381374182;asciilifeform;err, not the crankshaft, the gimbal shaft 346691;1381374191;asciilifeform;as in this one - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_joint 346692;1381374205;Vexual;like some trustless gyroscope 346693;1381374273;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 1 BTC [+] 346694;1381374279;mircea_popescu;o you mean the cardan joint ? 346695;1381374284;asciilifeform;right 346696;1381374307;asciilifeform;but I first learned of him because of 'Cardano's Grille' 346697;1381374327;asciilifeform;possibly the most fun low-tech cipher machine possible 346698;1381374367;mircea_popescu;which suggests a great line to me : whenever someone wants to featurecreep me, i shall go "we're doing a cardan joint not a thomson coupling here" 346699;1381374392;Vexual;you know rastas replace the word vital with ital 346700;1381374428;Vexual;and italians improved had made hash production in the himilayas 346701;1381374441;Vexual;they are very good at first principals 346702;1381374461;asciilifeform;the obsolete crypto method in question: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardan_grille 346703;1381374481;asciilifeform;who knew it was on pediwikia 346704;1381374548;Vexual;a beautiful culture in tune with an old language, great for thought 346705;1381374724;mircea_popescu;Are you a federal employee that has been deemed non-essential? 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It is emblazoned with the Vibrators.com logo on one side, so that you will forever remember our generosity. 346707;1381374874;Vexual;i remember something an old italian man told me, ingenious, i have to poke it in with a stick 346708;1381375444;Vexual;its probaly funnier when you've seen his wife 346709;1381375492;asciilifeform;gimbal joint built into the stick, or the wife? 346710;1381375546;Vexual;whats latin for gspot? 346711;1381375596;mircea_popescu;punto g ? 346712;1381375833;Vexual;sounds like a diesel 346713;1381376029;KRS-;somoene's wife sounds like a diesel? 346714;1381376080;Vexual;if you're doing it right 346715;1381376657;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pjs7lGPCKE 346716;1381376658;ozbot;AlKpote - Bande de p****** de sales p**** - Clip officiel - YouTube 346717;1381376733;KRS-;lol true i guess never thought about it haha 346718;1381376867;KRS-;hmm..good song..my whole house is vibrating because of my HiFi 346719;1381376896;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 0.11909998 BTC [+] 346720;1381376951;kakobrekla;only could afford for one whore? 346721;1381377073;Vexual;lots of speakers is best life 346722;1381377201;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.96000101 BTC [-] 346723;1381378177;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.96001 BTC [+] 346724;1381378664;jaj_;how do I buy active mining right now? 346725;1381378668;jaj_;sorry I meant ASICminer 346726;1381378896;pankkake;kakobrekla> only could afford for one whore? => yeah, terrible 346727;1381378909;pankkake;renting a nice car and a few whores isn't that expensive 346728;1381378924;pankkake;lyrics suck too, though title was promising 346729;1381378932;Vexual;:) 346730;1381378989;pankkake;his main line is "group of whorish whores" 346731;1381379049;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CanWljri1tQ&feature=watch_response 346732;1381379062;pankkake;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FULpplzOy8U 346733;1381379070;kakobrekla;tell him one whore is not a group 346734;1381379086;Vexual;dont watch that if youre liquidating silk road stock 346735;1381379204;Vexual;antidote 346736;1381379208;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-PTxCwUas0 346737;1381379241;pankkake;I fail to understand what is going on 346738;1381379250;pankkake;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdnBTJiUVDQ 346739;1381379473;Vexual;thats not industrial hardcore 346740;1381379498;pankkake;because 808? :) 346741;1381379510;Vexual;because my lost industy tapes 346742;1381379519;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00085138 = 2.3839 BTC [-] 346743;1381379555;pankkake;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU7ZIzEklzc 346744;1381379559;Vexual;sturting into the goth club no fee coz your suit is nice 346745;1381379618;Vexual;ponty beard like a crust explorwer 346746;1381379704;Vexual;play some more i like that dubstep 346747;1381379711;Vexual;its fresh 346748;1381379735;KRS-;check out skrillex-voltage, the youtube video version that shows a white mercedes 346749;1381379746;Vexual;isnt skrillex a homo? 346750;1381379750;KRS-;thats the best version of that song and imo its great 346751;1381379755;pankkake;he is 346752;1381379762;KRS-;he prolly is but makes some damn good music 346753;1381379775;pankkake;he makes homogay music 346754;1381379793;pankkake;though I won't deny brostep is a guilty pleasure of mine 346755;1381379793;KRS-;like i'd want to pick on him if he were around..he's odd. 346756;1381379808;Vexual;case in point 346757;1381379828;KRS-;other good joints of his are bangarang and kyoto 346758;1381379836;KRS-;thats dubstep right? 346759;1381379853;pankkake;the "call 911 now" sample is cool 346760;1381379859;KRS-;yeh 346761;1381379861;Vexual;how old are you krs1? 346762;1381379872;KRS-;41 346763;1381379893;Vexual;let me give you a tip about the devil 346764;1381379911;KRS-;too old to be up this late too..gotta get up in a few hours. 346765;1381379918;KRS-;night 346766;1381379926;pankkake;it's 6:38 AM here 346767;1381379939;KRS-;Somalia? 346768;1381379948;pankkake;I wish! I have a government :( 346769;1381379956;KRS-;hahha word.. 346770;1381379964;Vexual;sleep well 346771;1381379972;KRS-;thx..l8r 346772;1381380068;pankkake;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-2sqx-Z6is 346773;1381380413;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xftcdn5YUkk 346774;1381380459;Vexual;diesel 346775;1381380882;Vexual;thats how you do an 808 and a synth, keepo in bangin 346776;1381381117;Vexual;i get in free becasue i can make the sun explode 346777;1381381122;Diablo-D3;[12:36:02] he prolly is but makes some damn good music 346778;1381381125;Diablo-D3;not really 346779;1381381136;Diablo-D3;skrillex is a pretty lackluster dubstep artist 346780;1381381150;Diablo-D3;not that I would consider dubstep actually music, mind you 346781;1381381166;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.96000101 = 4.8 BTC [-] 346782;1381381170;Diablo-D3;but he came in long after dubstep became a thing and then did virtually all of his music by the forumula 346783;1381381300;Vexual;play something good 346784;1381381357;Vexual;diablo 346785;1381381383;Diablo-D3;what 346786;1381381405;Vexual;play a good one 346787;1381381407;pankkake;Vexual makes sense like 10% of the time 346788;1381381424;Diablo-D3;pankkake: thats a high estimate 346789;1381381436;Vexual;im a drunk 346790;1381381445;Diablo-D3;being drunk isnt paleo 346791;1381381484;Vexual;dont get me started on that shit again 346792;1381381492;Vexual;it is where im from ok 346793;1381381515;pankkake;being a paleonazi isn't paleo 346794;1381381521;pankkake;also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=138AnFonZMg 346795;1381381529;Vexual;thats not vene a notawrod word 346796;1381381550;Vexual;la roux, redhead madness 346797;1381381570;Vexual;genetic anomalies 346798;1381381613;Vexual;is this dubstep? i like it 346799;1381381619;pankkake;real dubstep 346800;1381381625;Vexual;fuck yeah cunt 346801;1381381651;Vexual;love it 346802;1381381682;Vexual;bangs like a diesel 346803;1381381766;Vexual;youre coming to my goth club pannake 346804;1381381788;pankkake;it's arguably closer to dnb, like most *step I enjoy 346805;1381381793;pankkake;are there goth sluts? 346806;1381381800;Vexual;yes 346807;1381381808;pankkake;I'm coming then! 346808;1381381810;Vexual;so much yes 346809;1381381810;kakobrekla;a group or .. ? 346810;1381381815;pankkake;hahaha 346811;1381381822;pankkake;but really, goth sluts are best sluts 346812;1381381826;Vexual;no the owner is a right old badman 346813;1381381839;pankkake;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdwZJrWfBVU 346814;1381381840;Vexual;i wont say hisdayjob 346815;1381381851;Vexual;wait this song isnt over 346816;1381381906;Vexual;im not sure he even exists in the day 346817;1381381916;pankkake;vampire probably 346818;1381381944;Vexual;i guarantee mp dont pay 346819;1381382634;Vexual;you can play d&b 346820;1381383159;Vexual;are you fat pancake? 346821;1381383168;pankkake;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyBiAq9nPhs 346822;1381383180;pankkake;no, I have the ideal BMI I guess 346823;1381383220;Vexual;good mix, i was justy playing aphrodite 346824;1381383496;Vexual;cop this 346825;1381383500;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajeL87l3prM 346826;1381383643;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKpB_w8t0U0 346827;1381383911;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5750 @ 0.00085336 = 4.9068 BTC [+] {3} 346828;1381384033;zacm;goth sluts are the fattest sluts is more like it, sick 346829;1381384142;Vexual;nice one dallas 346830;1381384166;Vexual;you're doing it wrong 346831;1381384178;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_j-Tji1DueU 346832;1381384189;pankkake;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5w7ZuRgk-g 346833;1381384246;Vexual;more better 346834;1381384694;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCPVLjrHDTs 346835;1381384790;pankkake;nice 346836;1381385013;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTxythHY09k 346837;1381385051;Vexual;#gothchicks 346838;1381385054;pankkake;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMyeJHcmzqM 346839;1381385061;pankkake;The uploader has not made this video available in your country. 346840;1381385071;pankkake;also, mainstream 346841;1381385215;Vexual;where the fuck do you live? 346842;1381385222;pankkake;France 346843;1381385268;Vexual;well imn on a france prxoy, so youll have tyo use your ast powers of dedution 346844;1381385368;Vexual;you could call yourself crepe 346845;1381385466;pankkake;crèpes are much better than pancakes 346846;1381385487;Vexual;well, theyre thinner, thats a surity 346847;1381385592;Vexual;as for better i cant say, my sweet tooth is non existant. i eat meat 346848;1381385642;Vexual;give me a fish or a duck 346849;1381385654;pankkake;ducks are the best 346850;1381385666;Vexual;they totally are 346851;1381385674;Vexual;asnjd france cooks the best duck 346852;1381385680;pankkake;yep 346853;1381385693;pankkake;southern-west france 346854;1381385693;Vexual;i had one with a cherry sauce, so good it was naughty 346855;1381385700;Vexual;yes yes 346856;1381385707;Vexual;cahors or somewhere 346857;1381385759;Vexual;excpept more villagey 346858;1381385839;Vexual;and theres no waitress becuase all the girls are off having fun 346859;1381385990;Vexual;just the fat fuckin chef thats eaten more duck than ive drunk beers 346860;1381386058;Vexual;state of the art; is the phrase that comes to mind 346861;1381386246;Vexual;peking aint got nothing on southern france 346862;1381386601;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0SyUgw98tE 346863;1381386846;Vexual;and thjis again 346864;1381386858;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=138AnFonZMg 346865;1381386862;Vexual;thjanks pankake 346866;1381386879;pankkake;:) 346867;1381386936;mod6;;;bc,stats 346868;1381386939;gribble;Current Blocks: 262694 | Current Difficulty: 1.8928124928103292E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 264095 | Next Difficulty In: 1401 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 7 hours, 59 minutes, and 59 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 221130389.971 | Estimated Percent Change: 16.82636 346869;1381386987;Vexual;:) 346870;1381387158;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onxOOWuAtk8 346871;1381387177;Vexual;i made 0 bitcoin today, but i drank so much vodka 346872;1381387266;Vexual;evens out in th wash 346873;1381387508;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LHmXMvfikuk 346874;1381388044;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHcyJPTTn9w 346875;1381388078;Vexual;hwos got the keys to the jeep 346876;1381388425;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00084843 = 3.5634 BTC [-] 346877;1381388915;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kVJR4BaQNQ 346878;1381389218;Vexual;san fran 346879;1381389222;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-q4foLKDlcE 346880;1381389965;b0n1;man its crazy how down just dice is atm... 346881;1381390041;b0n1;pankkake, I just saw your forum post, you are still in? 346882;1381390064;pankkake;about? 346883;1381390092;b0n1;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=242962.msg3300520#msg3300520 346884;1381390127;pankkake;yes, I have no reason to divest 346885;1381390130;pankkake;!jd 346886;1381390130;assbot;Just-Dice stat: 1458 BTC profit, 52.4k BTC invested, 165.91 mio bets, 4.03 mio BTC wagered 346887;1381390155;Vexual;my bot takes money most days 346888;1381390218;b0n1;what is your bot doing Vexual ? When does it divest and when reinvest? 346889;1381390275;Namworld;I left. -27 BTC 346890;1381390290;Namworld;Had other stuff to do with those funds 346891;1381390324;b0n1;Well, thats so strange... what is the reason for that seemingly continuous down... :( The random generator is biased? 346892;1381390335;Namworld;No idea 346893;1381390413;b0n1;It seems that the majority of investors made loss instead of profit 346894;1381390515;Namworld;yes 346895;1381390987;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 17 @ 0.96617647 = 16.425 BTC [+] {2} 346896;1381391263;Vexual;no invest just martingale with 50 hundred million tip bet 346897;1381391299;Vexual;1 satoshi versus 300 btc is not a casino 346898;1381391382;Vexual;30 rolls in a row neve hapopens 346899;1381391684;dub;;;goxlag 346900;1381391685;gribble;MtGox lag is 1121.656154 seconds. During this time, light travels 2.24778637393 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Ceres (in the main asteroid belt) (2.77 AU). 346901;1381391737;dub;goxxed 346902;1381391818;pankkake;;;premium mtgox bitstamp 346903;1381391821;gribble;mtgox premium over bitstamp is currently 12.0922752586 %. 346904;1381393669;Namworld;30 rolls in a row will happen 346905;1381393677;Namworld;~ 1 in a billion odds 346906;1381393790;Namworld;If you started with 10 BTC martingaling with 1 satoshi initial bet, good chance to lose 30 in a row and lose 10 BTC before doubling that 10 BTC. 346907;1381393854;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 0.1005 BTC [-] 346908;1381393915;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 0.1002 = 0.2004 BTC [-] 346909;1381394879;Vexual;yes that why i dont do it too oft 346910;1381394965;Vexual;youll also only ear 1 centibit per day average on a 1 satoshi start 346911;1381395012;Vexual;bit a 3 second roll you can do a lot of days b4 maybe losing 346912;1381395107;Vexual;nakowra was insane, you cant tak e that much every day 346913;1381396591;b0n1;Vexual, check the expected value of your strategy and you will recognize its negative... 346914;1381397154;Vexual;i know 346915;1381397176;Vexual;theta why im only up 0.05 346916;1381397204;Vexual;but the same goes for investors 346917;1381397411;Vexual;while the minimum bet is so far from th maxmum bet so unlike all traditional casinos that are a business, i don't see any success for jsust diice in any kind of time fram relevant to bitcoin 346918;1381397457;Vexual;people gonnna see the money worth twice as muc and they gonna divest before a profit 346919;1381397494;Vexual;maybe you canleavr it for years but the risk is too high 346920;1381397524;Vexual;its not a thing just gambling 346921;1381397580;Vexual;theres a reason all them casino put all them bet minimum so close to the maxi 346922;1381397621;Vexual;coz you have to get a money evry day to eat 346923;1381397645;Vexual;they dont look on a year or a week 346924;1381397849;b0n1;good point, but a clever investor invests in a way to exploit the law of large numbers and will keep the investment long enough 346925;1381397880;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 154 @ 0.00217001 = 0.3342 BTC [-] 346926;1381397919;Vexual;yeah if it lasts 5 years you win, but the model of a real casino wins more often 346927;1381397941;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 564 @ 0.00215582 = 1.2159 BTC [-] {3} 346928;1381397979;Vexual;satoshidice was protected by the blockchain 346929;1381398049;Vexual;no casino with any lifespan accepts one chip bets with 20 billlion on the table 346930;1381398073;b0n1;Vexual, why 5 years? There are so much bets going on atm, i dont think the frame will be that huge 346931;1381398097;Vexual;cool, i like maths too 346932;1381398124;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.954 BTC [-] 346933;1381398125;Vexual;nakowra dint even do that, he did a thing that couyld be done in vegas 346934;1381398126;b0n1;Vexual, you are right, traditional casinos make much more money with their limited max and maximized min bets 346935;1381398252;b0n1;what did nakowra do and why isn't he doing it further? 346936;1381398268;Vexual;he did something called oceans 88 346937;1381398288;Vexual;a high rolling chinese comes to a casino, plays, and wins 346938;1381398380;Vexual;with no recourse of whisky and whores, the casino kicked him out and took a loss 346939;1381398454;b0n1;without knowing the strategy, why isn't he still doing it? 346940;1381398541;Vexual;coz they taught him hed won 346941;1381398560;Vexual;statoshi dice would have kept rollling on the chain 346942;1381398613;b0n1;what did they do? 346943;1381398656;Vexual;satoshidice? 346944;1381398665;b0n1;no, just-dice i mean 346945;1381398683;Vexual;they ate a dick basically 346946;1381398705;b0n1;but why don't they do it again 346947;1381398716;Vexual;i dont think they liked the taste 346948;1381398733;b0n1;lal... so they found a way to forbid the strat? 346949;1381398746;Vexual;he was lukcy 346950;1381398762;Vexual;and he kept pumping like a pimp 346951;1381398792;b0n1;so he actually should have lost? 346952;1381398801;Vexual;no he won 346953;1381398842;b0n1;you said he was lucky so i suppose that he should have lost, but won instead 346954;1381398856;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 950 @ 0.00084843 = 0.806 BTC [-] 346955;1381398860;b0n1;well... i think im gonna read that up 346956;1381398868;Vexual;well the casino is still up 346957;1381399025;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iwC2QljLn4 346958;1381400137;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.43 = 1.72 BTC [+] 346959;1381400752;pankkake;http://trilema.com/2013/snsa-first-product-the-cardano/#comment-95493 +1 especially the revocation certificate, which I forgot existed (though I have mine somewhere…) 346960;1381401540;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 86 @ 0.00217233 = 0.1868 BTC [+] {2} 346961;1381406115;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 8 @ 0.1001375 = 0.8011 BTC [-] {2} 346962;1381406420;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69348300 BTC to 1`386`966 shares, 50 satoshi per share 346963;1381406486;mircea_popescu;http://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2013/09/the-many-flaws-of-dualecdrbg.html 346964;1381406490;mircea_popescu;shit one learns from one's blog. 346965;1381406574;davout;yo 346966;1381406581;mircea_popescu;ello. 346967;1381406598;davout;so i was reading your reply 346968;1381406628;davout;i concur when you say the fact the private key is never exported is a feature 346969;1381406630;mircea_popescu;"and i hate you now" 346970;1381406633;mircea_popescu;a ok 346971;1381406648;davout;nah, i never hate :-) 346972;1381406660;davout;but regarding the revocation cert it's still useful to have 346973;1381406675;davout;push it to keyservers, everybody gets notified 346974;1381406697;mircea_popescu;maybe. the one constraint in there, you have to appreciate, is that since we're not doing asics for this, 346975;1381406703;mircea_popescu;there's just so much space available for code 346976;1381406711;mircea_popescu;so iot's a game of well what can we fit of what we need to have 346977;1381406719;davout;ofc 346978;1381406750;mircea_popescu;if we ever end up selling these by the 10's of ks then an asic run becomes more reasonable and it probably will present a muchly different picture 346979;1381406758;davout;i'm just saying you're forgetting the main point of the revocation cert (in this specific context) in your answer 346980;1381406775;mircea_popescu;well, see, the cardano is principally to be used with people you are in contact with. 346981;1381406844;mircea_popescu;it's ideal usecase is not this, post pubkey on your blog, 20 years later still get encrypted email to that key (you've long lost) 346982;1381406884;davout;hmm 346983;1381406926;mircea_popescu;lermme quote here 346984;1381407179;mircea_popescu;well i can't find it. somewhere phil zimmermann was saying that people still send him pgp encrypted email but he long since doesn't have the key so he usually responds to ask ppl to send it plainly 346985;1381407186;mircea_popescu;which he figures they might think it's a little strange. 346986;1381407209;mircea_popescu;anyway. that sort of thing isn't the usecase here, not really. a classic pc implementation works much better. 346987;1381407435;davout;yeah so it isn't really supposed to be "The safe vault for your precious keys"(TM) 346988;1381407441;davout;i see 346989;1381407466;mircea_popescu;nah, it's supposed to be the unbreakable instagpg item. 346990;1381407478;mircea_popescu;the mothership probably needs a different solution. this is what the xwingers use while in flight 346991;1381407934;davout;i'm off, gonna build my mini GPG keychain with a raspberry pi and a betamax casing 346992;1381408189;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00085224 = 2.7272 BTC [+] 346993;1381408593;bitesak;Matthew Green seems a good candidate to review the entropy of Cardano? 346994;1381408795;mircea_popescu;bitesak sure, if he wants to 346995;1381408806;mircea_popescu;davout lol 346996;1381409065;Rulother_;well that script didn't work 346997;1381409897;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 1 = 3 BTC [+] 346998;1381409958;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1550 @ 0.00085105 = 1.3191 BTC [-] 346999;1381410781;mircea_popescu;lol 347000;1381411117;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 140 @ 0.00998569 = 1.398 BTC [+] {5} 347001;1381411178;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 37 @ 0.00998799 = 0.3696 BTC [+] 347002;1381411239;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 1.05624924 = 4.225 BTC [+] {3} 347003;1381411300;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 1.06499999 BTC [+] 347004;1381412215;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.00900001 = 0.18 BTC [-] {2} 347005;1381412254;davout;clear 347006;1381412257;davout;whoops 347007;1381412582;davout;http://usgovdownforeveryoneorjustme.com/ 347008;1381412597;mircea_popescu;lol 347009;1381412653;Rulother;nice 347010;1381412825;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3219 @ 0.00085602 = 2.7555 BTC [+] {3} 347011;1381412931;jurov;hi davout, how long should the b-c verfication take? 347012;1381412956;jurov;i'm waiting almost a week 347013;1381413081;davout;our financial partner is really slow 347014;1381413115;mircea_popescu;who you working with ? i forget 347015;1381413131;davout;they're called lemon way 347016;1381413159;davout;i'm not sure they know about the lemon party 347017;1381413237;mircea_popescu;youi mean the start-up ?! 347018;1381413263;mircea_popescu;the "your phone # is your acct #" folks ? 347019;1381413281;davout;lol yeah 347020;1381413291;mircea_popescu;yes you do 347021;1381413296;mircea_popescu;jeez. well this won't last long. 347022;1381413310;davout;why is that ? 347023;1381413321;mircea_popescu;cause clueless imo. 347024;1381413372;davout;let's say that they understand fast, but you gotta speak slowly 347025;1381413391;mircea_popescu;heh. anyone ELSE work there outside of that burlet fellow ? 347026;1381413447;davout;yup, witnessed it first hand 347027;1381413451;davout;you know him? 347028;1381413457;mircea_popescu;not personally 347029;1381413488;davout;well, don't go out of your way 347030;1381413513;mircea_popescu;lol. im sorry, but i have to rely on reams of intel. i can't personalyl know everyone. 347031;1381413525;mircea_popescu;anyway. mebbe it works out for you, but i'd keep on toes. 347032;1381413765;ThickAsThieves;http://www.forbes.com/sites/ryanmac/2013/10/09/living-with-ross-ulbricht-housemates-say-they-saw-no-clues-of-silk-road-or-the-dread-pirate-roberts/ 347033;1381413782;Diablo-D3;of course they'd say that 347034;1381413795;Diablo-D3;its a combination of a) opsec, and b) THEIR opsec 347035;1381413858;mircea_popescu;"kept to himself and spent full days buried in his laptop." 347036;1381413872;mircea_popescu;dude... kids today. long time on a laptop is fucking egonomics suicide. 347037;1381413874;mircea_popescu;why. why do they do it. 347038;1381413924;jurov;is there anything else to do? 347039;1381413936;mircea_popescu;use a desktop! 347040;1381413953;jurov;touche 347041;1381414004;ThickAsThieves;egonomics, invented by mpex 347042;1381414008;mircea_popescu;i suspect it's quite possible none of the recent kids ever got to use desktops and simply don't know the glory of comfort. 347043;1381414014;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves lol 347044;1381414049;ThickAsThieves;might be a good name for the blog 347045;1381414073;mircea_popescu;i meant ergonomics! i swear! 347046;1381414103;ThickAsThieves;popescuian slip 347047;1381414106;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5543 @ 0.00085746 = 4.7529 BTC [+] 347048;1381414106;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 41 @ 0.009001 = 0.369 BTC [+] {2} 347049;1381414162;mircea_popescu;i suppose i'll have to write the book now. 347050;1381414167;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 21 @ 0.00900001 = 0.189 BTC [-] 347051;1381414183;ThickAsThieves;lol: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=308861.msg1521109;topicseen#new 347052;1381414188;ThickAsThieves;"You are already rich god damn it." 347053;1381414215;ThickAsThieves;what the world needs now, BTCT code open-sourced... 347054;1381414242;jurov;burnside's not sure if he can reliably wipe all passwords 347055;1381414278;ThickAsThieves;? 347056;1381414290;jurov;remember bitcoinica? 347057;1381414295;ThickAsThieves;before my time 347058;1381414304;pankkake;"i suspect it's quite possible none of the recent kids ever got to use desktops and simply don't know the glory of comfort." yup 347059;1381414309;pankkake;they do learn, though. in pain 347060;1381414318;jurov;ftfy: in vain 347061;1381414328;ThickAsThieves;maybe that;s why they are such jerks 347062;1381414365;ThickAsThieves;all this decntralized exchange talk is driving me batty 347063;1381414384;ThickAsThieves;i started actually responding and making points, but it doesn't help of course 347064;1381414396;ThickAsThieves;"Direct shares is the only way forward, at this point. The fact that you have not put together a direct share system shows the short-sightedness of management." 347065;1381414402;jurov;ThickAsThieves: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=93074 347066;1381414406;pankkake;the other response could be "shut up and code" 347067;1381414416;pankkake;instead of circlejerking on how colored coins are the future 347068;1381414420;ThickAsThieves;or, Fuck you. 347069;1381414467;ThickAsThieves;lastpass, lol 347070;1381414516;pankkake;"I'm posting my idea here since it hasn't gotten much attention in the Project Development forum (0 replies)" 347071;1381414552;ThickAsThieves;mp, please write a Here's Why Everyone That Wants Decentralized Exchanges is Moron post 347072;1381414571;ThickAsThieves;assuming you havent already 347073;1381414634;jurov;there was kinda such discussion with asciilifeform's proposal on this topic 347074;1381414650;davout;clear 347075;1381414733;jurov;davout ? 347076;1381414766;ThickAsThieves;prepping the defibrillator? 347077;1381414768;jcpham;flatline 347078;1381414857;mircea_popescu;skinnkavaj hasa a very interesting take on the world :D 347079;1381414895;skinnkavaj;mircea_popescu: What? 347080;1381414901;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves the relevant bit there is, after the third time bitcoinica was raped, the "bitcoin consultancy" group of dorks self proclaimed into importance & relevance decided to shut it down. 347081;1381414914;mircea_popescu;after which one of them, the fabled amir taaki, stole the code and published it 347082;1381414917;LorenzoMoney;yes, a decentralized stock exchange would be wonderful, wouldn't it 347083;1381414922;mircea_popescu;in what his foggy brain represented as "open sourcing", 347084;1381414941;mircea_popescu;supposedly if you torrent some movie you're also open sourcing it, cause you don't need a license in the first place to cede rights. 347085;1381414942;skinnkavaj;mircea_popescu: Did you respond to my comment i just made in neobee thread? 347086;1381414946;LorenzoMoney;and why are they morons? oh becauseyou area fascist 347087;1381414952;LorenzoMoney;yes, bet you love Heinlein also 347088;1381414953;mircea_popescu;anyway. the code contained a lot of good bits including enough info to reconstruct a pw. 347089;1381414960;mircea_popescu;which resulted in some [more] lost btc. 347090;1381414975;mircea_popescu;skinnkavaj no it was about the btctc "you're already rich" thing 347091;1381415015;skinnkavaj;mircea_popescu: Isn't it true? 347092;1381415019;skinnkavaj;Does burnside need the money? 347093;1381415024;mircea_popescu;no, it's not true. 347094;1381415036;mircea_popescu;burnside is poor now, for one. his btct never made anything for the mention, for the other. 347095;1381415056;skinnkavaj;mircea_popescu: Didn't both litecoinglobal and btct have very huge fees? 347096;1381415058;mircea_popescu;moreover, poor idiots should not have access to code that SEEMS like it's doing something of that nature. 347097;1381415064;mircea_popescu;because they'll just fuck their lives up. 347098;1381415070;skinnkavaj;Ofc burnside is rich. 347099;1381415076;mircea_popescu;skinnkavaj they had very huge fees. he is not rich. go figure. 347100;1381415085;mod6;ThickAsThieves: http://trilema.com/2013/why-i-nixed-p2p-colored-coins-and-all-that-jazz/ 347101;1381415086;jurov;and this is not abut burnside. now there's at least some technical barrier to keep your average noob/scammer to start his own exchange 347102;1381415094;mircea_popescu;^ 347103;1381415104;skinnkavaj;jurov: Yeah like a free market hurts 347104;1381415105;skinnkavaj;LOL 347105;1381415105;mircea_popescu;to start his own WEBSITE which he misrepresents as an exchange. 347106;1381415109;skinnkavaj;and you are into bitcoin 347107;1381415116;skinnkavaj;because its sold to a company? 347108;1381415118;mircea_popescu;a collectiojn of idiots being confused about what they do != a free market. 347109;1381415155;skinnkavaj;So your argument is like, with open source everything that comes out is just crap? 347110;1381415169;pankkake;"LorenzoMoney> yes, bet you love Heinlein also" wat 347111;1381415169;skinnkavaj;And you are using bitcoin 347112;1381415170;mircea_popescu;no. 347113;1381415174;skinnkavaj;Lmao 347114;1381415194;skinnkavaj;Maybe we should sell bitcoin to a company 347115;1381415199;mircea_popescu;my argument is that you are ill equipped to consider things, as displayed by the very dubious generalisation you just tripped yourself with. 347116;1381415199;skinnkavaj;Genius 347117;1381415316;jurov;skinnkavaj: i have seen myself some offers on freelancer "build me a bitcoin exchange", they were obviously clueless on first read 347118;1381415337;jurov;it's just better for everyone if they don't 347119;1381415371;ThickAsThieves;mp your colored coins article doesnt address many other problems 347120;1381415377;skinnkavaj;So what? With a free markey, people will choose where to go. Which one sets up the best BTCT clone will win in the end. 347121;1381415382;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves so point them out. 347122;1381415423;mircea_popescu;anyway, " burnside's not sure if he can reliably wipe all passwords" << no, just not sure how to cleanly remove the "give scammers fake btc to fake their volume" code. 347123;1381415446;ThickAsThieves;the argument of course shifts depending on what problem it is people are trying to solve with decentralization 347124;1381415446;jurov;skinnkavaj: nope. the one who will manage to keep the bitcoins safe will win 347125;1381415466;mircea_popescu;of course. 347126;1381415467;skinnkavaj;jurov: Exactly what i said but in other words 347127;1381415469;ThickAsThieves;your points are mostly technical, involving the blockchain as being impractical 347128;1381415480;ThickAsThieves;i'd argue the concept itself is a unicorn 347129;1381415482;mircea_popescu;skinnkavaj no, not exacvtly what you said at all. 347130;1381415494;mircea_popescu;forum retards move to what SEEMS TO THEM a better alternative. 347131;1381415497;mircea_popescu;then they lose their btc. 347132;1381415504;mircea_popescu;which is ok because new retards come in. 347133;1381415517;ThickAsThieves;powers will always become ordered, dismantled, ordered, etc 347134;1381415517;mircea_popescu;if this process is allowed to become "what Bitcoin is" then Bitcoin will never be anything. 347135;1381415520;skinnkavaj;No, people use the service because its good. Thats the free market. Do you realize why everyone is abonding mtgox? 347136;1381415533;mircea_popescu;and a bunch of rich powerful people are here to fuck you in the mouth until you bleed 347137;1381415537;mircea_popescu;rather than let that happen. 347138;1381415547;mircea_popescu;i dunno how it can be made clearer. "free market" indeed. 347139;1381415554;ThickAsThieves;i see another conversation is happening sorry 347140;1381415577;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves no, im done with the "free market of retards" concept. anyway, re the colored coins : 347141;1381415586;mircea_popescu;the blockchain is fundamentally a solution to the bizantine problem 347142;1381415613;mircea_popescu;that problem exists like gravity exists. if you have it you gotta solve it. which is why the article focuses on the blockchain : if you're doing distributed anything, you have the bizantine poblem. 347143;1381415663;ThickAsThieves;admittedly, it doesnt seem to be the colored coin style developers making wild claims, but the people flocking to these ideas 347144;1381415667;ThickAsThieves;what i mean is 347145;1381415674;ThickAsThieves;people see exchanges closing 347146;1381415690;ThickAsThieves;and that decentralized things are now a solution 347147;1381415709;ThickAsThieves;colored coin type developers are merely trying to make an accountable ledger 347148;1381415715;ThickAsThieves;these are not the same things 347149;1381415751;mircea_popescu;explain the difference ? 347150;1381415764;ThickAsThieves;well the devs are just trying to make a thing 347151;1381415765;mircea_popescu;i mean other than "Well different implementations of the same concept" 347152;1381415780;ThickAsThieves;while the cheerleaders are searching for a replacement for exchanges 347153;1381415797;pankkake;colored coins do not provide a solution for decentralized *trades* 347154;1381415798;mircea_popescu;so you envisage a distributed replacement that's NOT at the same time an accountable ledger ? 347155;1381415807;ThickAsThieves;no 347156;1381415812;ThickAsThieves;i despise the whole idea 347157;1381415818;mircea_popescu;not what i meant 347158;1381415827;mircea_popescu;i meant as a pure concept. could such a thing be conceived 347159;1381415854;ThickAsThieves;i simply believe any such pursuit is a waste of time 347160;1381415856;mircea_popescu;pankkake that's you know, like "cancer will get you" for the gunshot wound patient 347161;1381415894;ThickAsThieves;i see the securities market as an ideal system involving 4 major parties 347162;1381415907;mircea_popescu;anyway. something like ripple (and tf's abuse thereof) clearly showed what the problems are with trying to get a distributed trust model going. 347163;1381415930;ThickAsThieves;the Exhange/Platform, Investment Bank/Issuer, Investor, and the issued Business/Financial Instrument 347164;1381415936;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 81 @ 0.00997734 = 0.8082 BTC [+] {3} 347165;1381415940;ThickAsThieves;having all 4 allows the alignment of interests 347166;1381415948;ThickAsThieves;and balance of power/trust 347167;1381415969;mircea_popescu;this is at least the proven=to=work italian model the modern system is copying. 347168;1381415972;mircea_popescu;and now i shall be off scarfing smoked salmon and fresh apple pie seasoned with free market tears. bbs. 347169;1381415973;ThickAsThieves;these powers are made useful/profitable/covenient in their vert centralization 347170;1381415988;ThickAsThieves;very* 347171;1381416010;ThickAsThieves;to attempt to "decentralize" merely amounts to breaking things into less useful pieces 347172;1381416058;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 19 @ 0.00997981 = 0.1896 BTC [+] 347173;1381416069;ThickAsThieves;thus all my problems with the decentralization of securities movement are conceptual 347174;1381416071;pankkake;I hereby decentralize ThickAsThieves 347175;1381416077;pankkake;you are now thick, and a thief 347176;1381416081;ThickAsThieves;lol 347177;1381416119;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00997981 = 0.499 BTC [+] {2} 347178;1381416147;ThickAsThieves;if you pile on mp's technical arguments about the blockchain's limits in providing a decentralized solution it only makes decentralization that much worse of a pursuit 347179;1381416253;ThickAsThieves;circling back to, i'd love to see blog article from mp that supported what ive just described 347180;1381416270;ThickAsThieves;although i guess no one would care much 347181;1381416280;ThickAsThieves;certainly not the forums 347182;1381416325;ThickAsThieves;"Such terms is rather ridicules and im sure they wont hold up in court in many country's" 347183;1381416327;pankkake;I'm not well versed in trade engines, but I don't see how you could execute them in a decentralized way 347184;1381416344;pankkake;even with only trusted nodes 347185;1381416353;pankkake;execute trades* 347186;1381416364;ThickAsThieves;i'm not inclined to find out :) 347187;1381416437;ThickAsThieves;another area people think decentralization addresses is circumventing SEC and other regulation 347188;1381416453;ThickAsThieves;this might be possible for nondescript financial instruments 347189;1381416464;ThickAsThieves;but not actual shares in companies 347190;1381416477;pankkake;unless the company is a scam, then it can work :) 347191;1381416482;ThickAsThieves;true 347192;1381417146;jurov;i dont undersstand, how it can work? i mean, how it protects said comapny from SEC? 347193;1381417185;ThickAsThieves;it doesnt 347194;1381417189;ThickAsThieves;thats the point 347195;1381417206;mircea_popescu;pankkake it's a hell of a problem. 347196;1381417212;jurov;so to what you said "true" then? i'm confused 347197;1381417223;ThickAsThieves;scammers would be safe 347198;1381417233;ThickAsThieves;since they would never say who they really are 347199;1381417248;ThickAsThieves;thus a decntralized service would make their lives easier 347200;1381417312;mircea_popescu;;;google "a company for carrying out an undertaking of great advantage, but nobody to know what it is" 347201;1381417313;gribble;South Sea Company - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Mackay, Charles, Memoirs of Extraordinary Popular Delusions and ...: ; The Extraordinary Popular Delusion of Believing What You Read ...: 350GH/s, <1KW for Jupiter 347423;1381439198;jborkl;Mineral oil is so expensive, I have thought about it many times- 347424;1381439387;jurov;and it can't be changed for water cooler, can be? 347425;1381439485;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00968748 = 0.9687 BTC [+] {6} 347426;1381439514;jborkl;I would have to look at it and see what would fit it, otherwise that could get really expensive - it also might too big of a system to cool it 347427;1381439521;jborkl;ight be too 347428;1381439527;jborkl;m 347429;1381439545;kakobrekla;watercooling is prolly not worth it 347430;1381439820;jborkl;I thinnk I am going to dnk a blade in mineral oil and see how it does on temps - just for the hell of it 347431;1381439913;mircea_popescu;so then 900 watt 440 gh is indeed in spec neh ? 347432;1381439935;mircea_popescu;jurov nah, you need special oil pumps. 347433;1381439981;kakobrekla;for water cooling a pc? not rly 347434;1381439988;jurov;i'm no expert.. supposedly it works with normal pc (except hdd), but 1kW is prolly too much 347435;1381440000;mircea_popescu;jborkl nj.gov/health/eoh/rtkweb/documents/fs/1437.pdf‎ 347436;1381440010;jurov;i mean, submerging it into oil 347437;1381440010;mircea_popescu;make sure you know what you're doing with that. 347438;1381440099;mircea_popescu;it has a slight but present fire hazard and is toxic if it burns. 347439;1381440103;mircea_popescu;also a bitch to extinguish 347440;1381440121;jborkl;hmm, well maybe not then 347441;1381440154;kakobrekla;you can test if the blown cap can set it on fire 347442;1381440158;mircea_popescu;lol 347443;1381440186;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/and-now-i-shall-be-off-scarfing-smoked-salmon-and-fresh-apple-pie-seasoned-with-free-market-tears-or-why-a-collection-of-confused-retards-does-not-amount-to-a-free-market/#comment-95504 347444;1381440188;ozbot;And now I shall be off scarfing smoked salmon and fresh apple pie seasoned with free market tears, o 347445;1381440193;mircea_popescu;this is turning into quite the argument 347446;1381440674;jborkl;I wonder how the KNC hosting center is holding up to 900 w per unit? Reptilla should take trip to the sauna in there 347447;1381440700;jborkl;considering they bought 850 w power supplies, as per the photos 347448;1381440718;mircea_popescu;good AC should be able to pump out something in the .1 to 1 MW per floor 347449;1381440724;mircea_popescu;o 347450;1381440848;jurov;good PSU's can supply more than rated but still something's fishy 347451;1381440971;mircea_popescu;it is possible the unit just works with whatever power it's being fed. 347452;1381440983;mircea_popescu;the knc ppl are slightly underfeeding it,w hich is why it doesn't pop as much ? 347453;1381441897;jurov;which is why it doesn't pop as much ? lol 347454;1381441919;mircea_popescu;well they said theirs don't explode right ? 347455;1381442064;jborkl;http://imgur.com/a/s44NM 347456;1381442065;ozbot;KNC Jupiter - Imgur 347457;1381442073;jborkl;nice shipping 347458;1381442138;nanotube;mircea_popescu: http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/09/fatal-crypto-flaw-in-some-government-certified-smartcards-makes-forgery-a-snap/ <- make sure your s.nsa product isn't stupid like this. :) 347459;1381442170;mircea_popescu;im just here to collect the praise. admonitions go to asciilifeform :D 347460;1381442345;mircea_popescu;anyway, someone should make a web key checker already 347461;1381442383;jurov;As many of 10,000 of these smartcards may provide little or no cryptographic protection despite receiving two internationally recognized certifications. 347462;1381442398;jurov;^ the web checker would be no better than these certifications 347463;1381442489;jurov;and i don't see how would devote hours to try cracking all submitted keys like the researchers did 347464;1381442499;mircea_popescu;jurov it couldn't identify a good key, but it could identify a bad one 347465;1381442617;jurov;nosuchagency can provide it.. as a marketing tool 347466;1381442627;mircea_popescu;perhaps. 347467;1381443084;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00085104 = 2.6382 BTC [-] 347468;1381443328;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 246 @ 0.0024189 = 0.595 BTC [-] {2} 347469;1381443450;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 400 @ 0.00223127 = 0.8925 BTC [-] {6} 347470;1381445403;ThickAsThieves;;;nethash 347471;1381445404;gribble;1768924.77853 347472;1381445406;ThickAsThieves;;;bcstats 347473;1381445409;gribble;Current Blocks: 262831 | Current Difficulty: 1.8928124928103292E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 264095 | Next Difficulty In: 1264 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 8 hours, 26 minutes, and 31 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 228797587.534 | Estimated Percent Change: 20.87705 347474;1381445718;KRS-;Hey vexual you might like: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwGdzkJD5N8 347475;1381450892;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 450 @ 0.00084959 = 0.3823 BTC [-] 347476;1381451563;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00084917 = 6.3688 BTC [-] {2} 347477;1381451685;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2960 @ 0.00019003 = 0.5625 BTC [-] {4} 347478;1381451746;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4897 @ 0.00019002 = 0.9305 BTC [-] {3} 347479;1381451807;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 6058 @ 0.00019 = 1.151 BTC [-] {3} 347480;1381453576;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00084776 = 1.6107 BTC [-] 347481;1381455101;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 607 @ 0.00084806 = 0.5148 BTC [+] 347482;1381455284;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4350 @ 0.00085276 = 3.7095 BTC [+] 347483;1381455293;BingoBoingo;So... I think math is broke. Apparently the public key for one of my addresses can hash into a different addresss. 347484;1381455496;mircea_popescu;that's odd. you mean with a different hash ? 347485;1381455761;nanotube;mircea_popescu> im just here to collect the praise. admonitions go to asciilifeform :D <- in that case... good idea, that cardano thing! :) 347486;1381455777;mircea_popescu;ty ty 347487;1381455801;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Yeah. I'm working on a report. The report will probably be in the form of a post titled "Fuckity Fuck Fuck" as I GPG sign a revocation of a certain address's message signing privileges. 347488;1381455879;pankkake;BingoBoingo: it's actually very common for gpg (the short pub key) 347489;1381455885;mircea_popescu;try and reproduce the behaviour first. 347490;1381455891;pankkake;it happened to me too 347491;1381455907;pankkake;that's why people should give the full fingerprint 347492;1381455912;Jere_Jones;BingoBoingo: Bitcoin addresses are hashed public keys, right? The private key that corresponds to that public key actually has two public keys. A compressed version and a noncompressed version. 347493;1381455949;BingoBoingo;pankkake: This isn't GPG. It is RIPEMD 160 being able to assign a public key two (maybe more) bitcoin addresses. 347494;1381455970;Jere_Jones;Well, yeah. 347495;1381455980;Jere_Jones;256 bits doesn't fit into 160 bits. 347496;1381455982;BingoBoingo;Fucking NSA bullshit undermining the Integrity of Mathematics. 347497;1381455996;Jere_Jones;I imagined it to be exceedingly rare though. 347498;1381456001;pankkake;oh 347499;1381456006;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo that's not possible. 347500;1381456029;mircea_popescu;multiple privates might hash to the same one address, but that's insanely rare. 347501;1381456040;mircea_popescu;the same private having ambiguous results however is impossible. 347502;1381456076;mircea_popescu;the first would be a collision. the second would be a case of 4+5 being sometimes 8, sometimes 9 347503;1381456077;Jere_Jones;BingoBoingo, are you saying the same 256 bit public key ran through RIPEMD160 gave you two different answers? 347504;1381456178;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Jere_Jones It is just a standard Bitcoin address's underlying public key. mircea_popescu I'm not sure what to think anymoar. I will say fuck vanitygen. 347505;1381456199;mircea_popescu;you using a web based service to make the keys ? 347506;1381456215;mircea_popescu;they're shit. i could never get them to make usable addresses. 347507;1381456264;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: The key wasn't generated on a web based service, but a web based service turned the public key into an unexpected address. 347508;1381456277;mircea_popescu;because they're broken lol 347509;1381456284;mircea_popescu;retry with the original method. 347510;1381456324;Jere_Jones;If you have the private key, turn that into the other public key and see if that gives you the address you're looking for. 347511;1381456375;BingoBoingo;1LC9GzYK1zjrG9zAvMPExcwHTP8aPYPMyY apparently is an imposter for my beloved 1LvCuntsJyFFQsLuJhBXBPokbQa7SAyMr4 address in the message signed on my contacts and credentials page. I'm trying more messages at the moment, but it looks like GPG is going to have to save the day. 347512;1381456405;Jere_Jones;I can help you but you need the private key. 347513;1381456405;mircea_popescu;i think you're jumping to conclusions. 347514;1381456417;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Maybe. 347515;1381456448;BingoBoingo;Maybe I should go to #bitcoin-dev or wherever the muppets live and troll them up a bit with this. 347516;1381456464;mircea_popescu;use a proper process to turn privkey into pubkey then hash that and see what you get. 347517;1381456473;mircea_popescu;wherwe website != proper process 347518;1381456474;dexX7;mind to give out some samples like messages + signatures for both addresses? 347519;1381456557;BingoBoingo;dexX7: plug the message and signature here http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/contact-and-credentials/ into http://brainwallet.org/#verify 347520;1381456611;Jere_Jones;1LC9GzYK1zjrG9zAvMPExcwHTP8aPYPMyY 347521;1381456614;dexX7;i see, sec 347522;1381456714;BingoBoingo;The problem is that 1LC9GzYK1zjrG9zAvMPExcwHTP8aPYPMyY could have signed the same message. Maybe it could have signed a more malicious message. Fuck. Just because elliptic curves are sexy doesn't mean they should be used everywhere. 347523;1381456770;mircea_popescu;i bet you 1LC9GzYK1zjrG9zAvMPExcwHTP8aPYPMyY could not have signed the same message. 347524;1381456830;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Maybe. Maybe it is just some odd intersection and I need to go back to adding giberish at the end of everything I sign. 347525;1381456852;Jere_Jones;I'm not showing that message verigying with 1LvCunts 347526;1381457073;mircea_popescu;i tell uyou, the brainwallet implementation is borkt. 347527;1381457082;mircea_popescu;might be because of how javascript runs on some systems 347528;1381457088;BingoBoingo;Jere_Jones: At the most charitable where there isn't a collision it ought probably assumed at a minimum Bitcoin address signing merely sucks and is poorly implemented. If you are the sort who goes for minimums. 347529;1381457101;Jere_Jones;It doesn't verify in bitcoin-qt 347530;1381457105;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Maybe. You'd think they could at least verify things right. 347531;1381457109;dexX7;hehe odd 347532;1381457118;dexX7;1HF8us88HGVh7gYEJpjxXS79AW2vDyZiAp 347533;1381457127;dexX7;is the address that is resolved for this msg/signature 347534;1381457132;mircea_popescu;ha! 347535;1381457136;mircea_popescu;so that's a third. 347536;1381457142;BingoBoingo;Maybe the problem isn't the signature or the message. Maybe Bitcoin Address signing is just fucked. 347537;1381457143;dexX7;the other two are invalid 347538;1381457145;mircea_popescu;listen, use a witness signature implementation and check. 347539;1381457150;mircea_popescu;the site is whack. 347540;1381457188;dexX7;verified with stock btc client + some php lib that i'm using to resolve (msg, sig) -> addr 347541;1381457214;dexX7;but it actually should work with "1LvCuntsJyFFQsLuJhBXBPokbQa7SAyMr4"? 347542;1381457216;Jere_Jones;Yep. bitcoin-qt verified it with that address. 347543;1381457331;dexX7;not for me 347544;1381457363;Jere_Jones;I meant 1HF8us 347545;1381457365;BingoBoingo;Jeff Gazarizadickbag can suck mine. 347546;1381457368;dexX7;http://i.imgur.com/GLnJGZ9.png 347547;1381457376;dexX7;ah k 347548;1381457396;mircea_popescu;hm 347549;1381457412;mircea_popescu;they have some bug in the sig implementation ? 347550;1381457439;mircea_popescu;anyone willing to make 1k keys, sign 1k messages and see if the signed messages actually resolve to the proper keys ? 347551;1381457451;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Probably they have a bug, in the least bad imagining of things. 347552;1381457486;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo are you sure you didn't sign with that other address tghrough some process involving for instance vodka ? 347553;1381457550;[\];lol 347554;1381457567;[\];Are you sure you even signed it and didn't copy the sig from someone else? 347555;1381457594;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Rather sure. I don't have a key for that other address in any of my wallets. The pages on the blog were some of the few things I remember making sober. 347556;1381457623;mircea_popescu;apparently sober is bad luck for you. anyway, this warrants some testing. 347557;1381457665;[\];not really 347558;1381457674;[\];address signing isn't a replacement for gpg signing 347559;1381457695;mircea_popescu;no, but if address signing works so you sign with one address and it verifyes with another i'd like to know 347560;1381457708;[\];Why? 347561;1381457714;mircea_popescu;because there's enough lols in there to keep us going through a day or two even 347562;1381457724;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.0008514 = 1.3622 BTC [-] 347563;1381457734;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Yeah, in the meantime: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/contact-and-credentials/ I'll be watching BitBet rather closely to sweep any winnings to safer addresses. 347564;1381457739;[\];has AM listed on MPEX yet? 347565;1381457749;mircea_popescu;mnop 347566;1381457786;[\];q 347567;1381457786;mircea_popescu;;;ident BingoBoingo 347568;1381457787;gribble;Nick 'BingoBoingo', with hostmask 'BingoBoingo!~BingoBoin@unaffiliated/bingoboingo', is not identified. 347569;1381457807;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Let me gribble real quick 347570;1381457821;mircea_popescu;just wanted to see if you made an accct 347571;1381457845;mircea_popescu;whoa! 347572;1381457846;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: I finally made a nickserve account 347573;1381457871;mircea_popescu;i just got pointed out to me that 1LC9GzYK1zjrG9zAv >>MPEx<< cwHTP8aPYPMyY 347574;1381457884;mircea_popescu;all your itams are belong to me ? 347575;1381458072;Jere_Jones;I wonder if Havelock is being DDOS'd or if they just can't handle the load of being the stock exchange that receives the most traffic. 347576;1381458080;BingoBoingo;;;ident BingoBoingo 347577;1381458080;gribble;Nick 'BingoBoingo', with hostmask 'BingoBoingo!~BingoBoin@unaffiliated/bingoboingo', is identified as user BingoBoingo, with GPG key id 309BB8D7F3251143, key fingerprint ADD7A9A28F85E5EF1F51904F309BB8D7F3251143, and bitcoin address None 347578;1381458111;BingoBoingo;I have updated http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/contact-and-credentials/ 347579;1381458142;mircea_popescu;Jere_Jones not that much trading for all that traffic. 347580;1381458154;Jere_Jones;I *know*! 347581;1381458342;BingoBoingo;It's kind of funny I registered with gribble months ago, yet on I only registered with nickserv last week. 347582;1381458472;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu asciilifeform: Is there a rough estimate on how the Cardano will be priced? 347583;1381458496;mircea_popescu;well surely there is, but it's not public. 347584;1381458687;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: I'm a bit curious because the Cardono seems like something a person would purchase a few of. 347585;1381458701;mircea_popescu;one for each gf! 347586;1381458925;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: One for each girl. One for each dude providing muscle. The possibilities are endless. General Patraeus would have had a career if only he could have given his side bitch a Cardano. 347587;1381458946;mircea_popescu;aptly put 347588;1381458978;BingoBoingo;I imagine a Cardano gift set with lacey panties and a digital camera and a second gift set with a Cardano and a blackjack. 347589;1381458979;mircea_popescu;anyway, to quote the main man, here 347590;1381458979;mircea_popescu; shaving pennies off the draft design 347591;1381459057;Jere_Jones;BingoBoingo: It appears that the people with the expertise you need aren't paying attention in #bitcoin-dev. I'd try back in 12 hours. 347592;1381459126;BingoBoingo;Jere_Jones: Honestly it doesn't seem like a matter where I need their expertise so much as they need my accident. I mean if they know how this IRC thing works they will know to scroll up. 347593;1381459227;BingoBoingo;Jere_Jones: If they don't know to scroll up or check logs why are they on the internet and not Facebook. 347594;1381459283;Jere_Jones;They will, honestly, need more details. A bug report without replication steps is fairly useless. 347595;1381459426;mircea_popescu;that's a point. 347596;1381459492;BingoBoingo;Jere_Jones: Well I'm not offering the private key until at least the last BitBet associated with that address resolves. Maybe some elliptic surves intersected at the point of that message. Maybe it is something worse. It is honestly more their problem than mine though I will be happy to offer them information short of the private key. The replication steps are surprisingly short and I imagine unhelpful. 347597;1381459521;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo you wouldn't offer the private key tho 347598;1381459601;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Of course not, unless someone was paying out more for it than the outstanding BitBet Bets paying to the derived address. 347599;1381459672;mircea_popescu;can you sign another message with that address btw ? 347600;1381459686;mircea_popescu;you could do this as a succession of screenshots. here i sign X with address Y 347601;1381459694;mircea_popescu;here i try to check it and it checks to address Z 347602;1381459816;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Sure, just for shits and giggles I will hope it isn't some PRNG problem. 347603;1381459884;dexX7;1. ’ is the source 2. ’ != ´ 3. strlen("’") = 3 x_X 4. it creates a not matching signature every time, if you use ’ + more than 250 other chars 347604;1381459942;mircea_popescu;wait what ? 347605;1381460003;dexX7;yup 347606;1381460009;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: http://bitbin.it/kChBkUKd dexX7 Are you implying Bitcoin address signatures are more worthless than I though? 347607;1381460027;mircea_popescu;dexX7 let me say this myself to see. 347608;1381460075;mircea_popescu;if using particular characters such as , the signing goes bonkers creating signatures that go with random addresses instead of the correct address ? 347609;1381460141;dexX7;only if you add >= 250 other chars 347610;1381460154;mircea_popescu;wow. 347611;1381460159;mircea_popescu;how do you know this ? 347612;1381460185;BingoBoingo;Fuck this is why Bitcoin needs a mother fucking Spec. 347613;1381460246;dexX7;i tested it by shortening the message and replacing the chars with others 347614;1381460447;BingoBoingo;dexX7: Still, there is no reason why Bitcoin address signed messages can't have a container like GPG signatures do. It would be so much easier to demonstrate this is broken or solid if only there were a standard container for signed messages. 347615;1381460507;dexX7;like ----BEGIN ...? 347616;1381460590;BingoBoingo;dexX7: I don't know if that is sarcasm, but yes. That is actually incredibly useful to have. 347617;1381460656;dexX7;i see. yes, it is. 347618;1381460770;BingoBoingo;dexX7: For better or worse the GPG armored format lets idiots import keys and signatures. I contrast the bitcoin address format has not container and simply solicits information. Apparently that information can often be wrong. 347619;1381460787;mircea_popescu;dexX7 well wd. 347620;1381460795;mircea_popescu;this is so much derp i have trouble believing it. 347621;1381460805;dexX7;did you test it? 347622;1381460822;mircea_popescu;i don't even dare imagine what'd have happened should anyone have taken garzik's alternative exchange seriously and puit money/effort into that 347623;1381460831;mircea_popescu;only to discover 6 months later that well... 347624;1381460855;BingoBoingo;I'm probably just going to watch this for a few times, cum, and then take a relaxing walk. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdJRafNcfkw 347625;1381460882;mircea_popescu;dexX7 nope, i don't have software that does the signature stuff. 347626;1381460895;dexX7;no standard btc client? 347627;1381460911;mircea_popescu;nothing recent. 347628;1381460930;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: I've also started and aborted a tor study. 347629;1381460960;BingoBoingo;Box got owned. Nothing subtle at all. 347630;1381460969;mircea_popescu;lol 347631;1381460984;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: care to elaborate ? 347632;1381461035;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: I'm authed on gribble /msg me and I will offer some things on a more disposable venue 347633;1381461244;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: If you want a lot of details use http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/pgp/ directed at bingoboingo357@gmail.com 347634;1381461386;KRS-;nice video 347635;1381462279;[\];;;ident 347636;1381462279;gribble;You are not identified. 347637;1381462281;[\];lies! 347638;1381462295;[\];;;ident 347639;1381462296;gribble;You are identified as user imsaguy, with GPG key id 7D7EA76776E6CE48, key fingerprint A1398F4C58AC3D387F012AFA7D7EA76776E6CE48, and bitcoin address 1Hf5qWZzd2WsrDwLhkykNc4uXPAkykg9PM 347640;1381462320;[\];now someone send some dust to that address ^ 347641;1381462324;[\];I gotta try something out 347642;1381463214;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2842 @ 0.00084966 = 2.4147 BTC [-] {2} 347643;1381463946;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 153 @ 0.00970521 = 1.4849 BTC [-] {6} 347644;1381463947;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.965454 = 5.7927 BTC [-] {5} 347645;1381466142;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 193 @ 0.001183 = 0.2283 BTC [-] {6} 347646;1381467240;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1413 @ 0.00084932 = 1.2001 BTC [-] 347647;1381468027;BingoBoingo;Also, GANGBANGRipeMD.py found a sixth address that could have created that signature for the message. 347648;1381468058;dexX7;lol 347649;1381468068;dexX7;how did you write the message anywaay? 347650;1381468123;BingoBoingo;dexX7: I just signed it in Multibit. Some rando on CoinChat pointed out Brainwallet attributes the signature to another address. 347651;1381468141;dexX7;no, i mean.. from where is the text you signed? 347652;1381468160;BingoBoingo;dexX7: I wrote it. 347653;1381468168;dexX7;my keyboard produces a different ´ than the one you used 347654;1381468179;dexX7;’ vs ´ 347655;1381468197;BingoBoingo;dexX7: I use the retard 'Murican version of a keyboard. 347656;1381468212;dexX7;any special editor like word or so? 347657;1381468269;BingoBoingo;dexX7: Nope, just Vim 347658;1381468825;BingoBoingo;;;bc 347659;1381468825;gribble;Error: "bc" is not a valid command. 347660;1381468846;BingoBoingo;;; bc stats 347661;1381468846;gribble;Error: "bc" is not a valid command. 347662;1381468908;BingoBoingo;;; 347663;1381469382;BingoBoingo;So. I thought about pricing GANGBANGRipeMD.py but I'm going to hold off. 347664;1381470808;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 141 @ 0.00118047 = 0.1664 BTC [-] {2} 347665;1381471357;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 16 @ 0.95294443 = 15.2471 BTC [-] {6} 347666;1381471358;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 850 @ 0.00084932 = 0.7219 BTC [-] 347667;1381471540;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0090237 = 0.9024 BTC [-] {4} 347668;1381471723;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.92955099 = 9.2955 BTC [-] {5} 347669;1381472272;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00901501 = 0.4508 BTC [-] 347670;1381472333;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.009015 = 0.4508 BTC [-] 347671;1381472760;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4650 @ 0.0008502 = 3.9534 BTC [+] {3} 347672;1381474773;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5090 @ 0.00085207 = 4.337 BTC [+] 347673;1381475261;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 121 @ 0.00230001 = 0.2783 BTC [+] 347674;1381475444;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.0023 = 0.23 BTC [-] 347675;1381475566;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 469 @ 0.00210136 = 0.9855 BTC [-] {5} 347676;1381475993;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 150 @ 0.00909385 = 1.3641 BTC [+] {4} 347677;1381475994;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.92000002 = 2.76 BTC [-] 347678;1381477152;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 0.09055501 = 0.3622 BTC [-] {3} 347679;1381477191;BingoBoingo;After taking a walk and reflecting I have updated my posts on the Bitcoin Address signed message deal. Whole venture seems less than useless the more I read about the problems. 347680;1381477213;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 0.09011001 = 0.1802 BTC [-] 347681;1381478921;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2350 @ 0.0008515 = 2.001 BTC [-] {2} 347682;1381480507;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16297 @ 0.00085346 = 13.9088 BTC [+] {3} 347683;1381480568;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 153 @ 0.00085477 = 0.1308 BTC [+] 347684;1381480690;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00085477 = 4.1029 BTC [+] {2} 347685;1381484838;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4750 @ 0.00084861 = 4.0309 BTC [-] {3} 347686;1381485645;phish;.d 347687;1381485645;ozbot;189281249.28103 | Next Diff in 1176 blocks | Estimated Change: 21.0500% in 6d 10h 42m 28s 347688;1381485692;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2350 @ 0.00085477 = 2.0087 BTC [+] 347689;1381486485;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3012 @ 0.00084704 = 2.5513 BTC [-] 347690;1381487612;mircea_popescu;so what happens when diff overflows longint on 32bit platforms ? 347691;1381487764;jurov;mircea_popescu: isn't it float? 347692;1381487792;mircea_popescu;a 347693;1381487804;mircea_popescu;i dunno if its implemented as two ints or a float or what 347694;1381487829;jurov;yes, maybe something can overflow in process of converting it from past hashrate 347695;1381487894;mircea_popescu;if its a fgloat i guess we're safe, good up to 10^38 if memory serves 347696;1381488026;jurov;they seem to use bignums (via own library) 347697;1381488166;mircea_popescu;well that's reassuring. 347698;1381488186;mircea_popescu;so what happens when diff overflows random quirky implementation of bignums on 32bit platforms ? 347699;1381488246;jurov;... 347700;1381488298;mircea_popescu;the diff overflows!!1 347701;1381488315;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5625 @ 0.00084567 = 4.7569 BTC [-] {2} 347702;1381488925;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4206 @ 0.00084616 = 3.5589 BTC [+] 347703;1381489291;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.00084616 = 6.6 BTC [+] 347704;1381489726;mircea_popescu;lmao JPM posts a loss 347705;1381489733;mircea_popescu;on LEGAL charges. 347706;1381489756;mircea_popescu;dear all... i think you'd better review your legal budged. it jpm can't quite afford it... 347707;1381489901;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6182 @ 0.00084616 = 5.231 BTC [+] 347708;1381490511;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 250 @ 0.08522245 = 21.3056 BTC [-] {9} 347709;1381490754;KRS-;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L89IDDq30J8 347710;1381490755;ozbot;Good Morning Song - YouTube 347711;1381490769;KRS-;Good morning from the 'states 347712;1381491153;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/bad-news-for-jpm/ 347713;1381491154;ozbot;Bad news for JPM pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 347714;1381491975;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 111 @ 0.00883557 = 0.9807 BTC [-] {6} 347715;1381492585;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7108 @ 0.00084573 = 6.0114 BTC [-] {2} 347716;1381492829;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69348300 BTC to 1`386`966 shares, 50 satoshi per share 347717;1381493622;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4750 @ 0.00085081 = 4.0413 BTC [+] 347718;1381495484;davout;mircea_popescu: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/trilema.com 347719;1381495523;mircea_popescu;ty. lessee here 347720;1381495561;mircea_popescu;davout i see it atm. jus a leetal bit of flooding 347721;1381495574;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5500 @ 0.0001811 = 0.9961 BTC [-] {3} 347722;1381496147;ThickAsThieves;heh "iPhone 5S users report 'Blue Screen Of Death' reboots" 347723;1381496196;mircea_popescu;apple is now microsoft! 347724;1381496207;ThickAsThieves;from Gox "Finally, the implementation of this new infrastructure is a prerequisite before we can initiate Midas. There is still a lot of work to be done before we can launch Midas but rest assured this is a priority project for us. Once Midas is up and running we will be able to offer the trading of other digital currencies." 347725;1381496218;ThickAsThieves;reddite response: "Would be nice if they started trading bitcoin first." 347726;1381496281;mircea_popescu;lol 347727;1381496288;davout;lol 347728;1381496399;Scrat;lol 347729;1381496464;mircea_popescu;dude the unending deluge of retared socialist propaganda on the topic of the us budget. 347730;1381496478;pankkake;so still no communication on widthdrawal issues? it looks like even eur is taking a lot of time 347731;1381496492;mircea_popescu;pankkake don't worry, it's a priority. 347732;1381496518;Scrat;pankkake: victims have to deposit so that the other victims can withdraw 347733;1381496529;ThickAsThieves;http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2013-10/enhanced/webdr03/8/15/anigif_enhanced-buzz-16008-1381258970-14.gif 347734;1381496550;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7450 @ 0.000852 = 6.3474 BTC [+] {2} 347735;1381496565;mircea_popescu;Scrat also a priority. 347736;1381496583;ThickAsThieves;http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2013-10/enhanced/webdr02/8/15/anigif_enhanced-buzz-21971-1381259005-9.gif 347737;1381496590;pankkake;about the shutdown thank god I follow zero traditional media 347738;1381496606;pankkake;the only thing to say is "Washington Monument syndrome" 347739;1381496643;ThickAsThieves;the whole page gets pretty funny http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/the-whitest-things-that-have-ever-happened 347740;1381496669;mircea_popescu;"Obama and his urbanized, racially diverse supporters are transforming America into something unrecognizable" 347741;1381496686;mircea_popescu;get a load of that shit. obama at 37%, one over bush's career low, has supporters now ? 347742;1381496707;mircea_popescu;the perpetually-on-welfare, illegal immigrants and all the rest of the "low information voter" scum is urbanized >? 347743;1381496711;mircea_popescu;what the fuck is wrong with people. 347744;1381496741;pankkake;illegal immigrants vote? 347745;1381496756;mircea_popescu;in the us they do, yes. 347746;1381496756;pankkake;in the journalist' mind racially diverse supporters are 347747;1381496757;mircea_popescu;twice. 347748;1381496773;mircea_popescu;once illegally and once imigratorily. 347749;1381496774;pankkake;transforming America into something unrecognizable and urbanized is just a way to make them Good Guys. it doesn't matter if it's accurate 347750;1381496794;pankkake;ugh wrong paste 347751;1381496804;mircea_popescu;what annoys me most is that the prostitute i quoted is a) a pulizer prize winner and b) not actually getting paid for his sexual services. 347752;1381496842;pankkake;in the journalists' minds "racially diverse" and "urbanized" is just a way to make them Good Guys. it doesn't matter if it's accurate 347753;1381496872;mircea_popescu;i'm aware. 347754;1381497041;pankkake;lol at stolen pony 347755;1381497831;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4190 @ 0.00085056 = 3.5638 BTC [-] 347756;1381498075;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 574 @ 0.00115592 = 0.6635 BTC [-] {5} 347757;1381498136;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 147 @ 0.00111201 = 0.1635 BTC [-] {4} 347758;1381498466;turbo_ac100; 347759;1381498686;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00085008 = 2.1252 BTC [-] {2} 347760;1381498868;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3462 @ 0.00085142 = 2.9476 BTC [+] {2} 347761;1381499234;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 18 @ 0.0088 = 0.1584 BTC [-] 347762;1381499295;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.0088 = 0.22 BTC [-] 347763;1381499628;ThickAsThieves;"Rockstar offers $500,000 of in-game cash to frustrated GTA Online players" SEC gonna step in? 347764;1381499642;mircea_popescu;lol. definitely. 347765;1381499905;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00085229 = 3.4944 BTC [+] {2} 347766;1381500691;test675;hi 347767;1381500716;test675;anyone in here? 347768;1381500899;mircea_popescu;yes 347769;1381501796;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 32 @ 0.008821 = 0.2823 BTC [+] 347770;1381502015;lewicki;.D 347771;1381502018;lewicki;.d 347772;1381502018;ozbot;189281249.28103 | Next Diff in 1149 blocks | Estimated Change: 20.2755% in 6d 8h 34m 33s 347773;1381502102;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 37 @ 0.009 = 0.333 BTC [+] 347774;1381502317;ThickAsThieves;nothing new but http://bitcoinexaminer.org/bitfunder-com-is-closing-all-activities-to-united-states-users/ 347775;1381502371;mircea_popescu;o hey, there's an examiner now ? who runs it mike magee ? 347776;1381502513;ThickAsThieves;another courtroom masterpiece http://bitcoinexaminer.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/131009-internet-drugs-6p.photoblog600.jpg 347777;1381502711;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.99999799 = 2 BTC [+] 347778;1381502772;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3050 @ 0.00085218 = 2.5991 BTC [-] 347779;1381502772;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.999998 BTC [+] 347780;1381502894;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.999998 BTC [+] 347781;1381503013;mircea_popescu;is the judge that derpy ? and who's black ? dpr was a white kid 347782;1381503084;ThickAsThieves;the public defender 347783;1381503117;ThickAsThieves;i think that artist draws with a derpy pen, no avoiding it 347784;1381503126;mircea_popescu;lol that's a new one 347785;1381503138;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.99999799 = 9 BTC [-] 347786;1381503139;mircea_popescu;"i'd love to go out on a date, but you've been drawn with the derpy pen" 347787;1381503166;mircea_popescu;wait the oliver twist figure on the left is dpr ? 347788;1381503191;ThickAsThieves;yes 347789;1381503242;mircea_popescu;i regret cubist court painters never took off. 347790;1381503297;ThickAsThieves;i like the purple halo everyone has 347791;1381503326;ThickAsThieves;sweet bowtie on the judge too 347792;1381503446;ThickAsThieves;holy crap http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2013/10/absurd-creature-6-foot-salamander/ 347793;1381503460;Rulother;I would eat it 347794;1381503483;mircea_popescu;the way the economy is going, you may have to. 347795;1381503485;ThickAsThieves;i wasnt aware an amphibian could be so large 347796;1381503491;Rulother;That guy's left hand looks to be in a, bad position. 347797;1381504358;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.99999999 BTC [+] 347798;1381504541;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.415 BTC [+] 347799;1381504542;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 15 @ 0.00919999 = 0.138 BTC [+] 347800;1381504543;KRS1;in Miami, Florida we have these big monitor type lizards that get to be that big..they've become a bit of a problem..people got them as small pets and let them go into the wild to reproduce. 347801;1381504560;KRS1;i've seen them 4-6 ft..thats a big damn lizard. 347802;1381504596;kakobrekla;you are in miami? 347803;1381504644;mircea_popescu;they're a problem in costa rica too. they tend to play in the sewage pipes and sometiems get stuck. 347804;1381504722;ThickAsThieves;but lizards are not amphibians 347805;1381504727;ThickAsThieves;large reptiles are wellknown 347806;1381504776;mircea_popescu;wasnt this found in water ? 347807;1381504796;KRS1;true but its cool these things sometimes cross the street in the middle of a big city 347808;1381504801;KRS1;heres what im seeing http://www.newsytype.com/8404-monitor-lizards-florida/ 347809;1381504846;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.001199 = 0.1199 BTC [+] 347810;1381504860;KRS1;better that thing smell like pepper than body odor 347811;1381505614;matthew_boyd;o/ 347812;1381505638;matthew_boyd;;seen mircea_popescu 347813;1381505639;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 12 @ 0.00900001 = 0.108 BTC [-] 347814;1381505645;matthew_boyd;;;seen mircea_popescu 347815;1381505645;gribble;mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 14 minutes and 28 seconds ago: wasnt this found in water ? 347816;1381505700;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 16 @ 0.009 = 0.144 BTC [-] 347817;1381506188;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 295 @ 0.00085102 = 0.2511 BTC [-] 347818;1381506826;jcpham;http://youtu.be/RBqjZ0KZCa0 347819;1381506827;ozbot;Somebody need to pay for my 15 kids - YouTube 347820;1381506836;jcpham;and be held accountable 347821;1381506920;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 49 @ 0.00880275 = 0.4313 BTC [-] {3} 347822;1381507324;jborkl;Mircea_popescu, you around? 347823;1381507347;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 54 @ 0.42999999 = 23.22 BTC [-] {2} 347824;1381508096;ThickAsThieves;http://thegenesisblock.com/coinlab-files-response-mt-gox-lawsuit/ 347825;1381508097;ozbot;CoinLab Files Response in Mt. Gox Lawsuit - The Genesis Block 347826;1381508108;matthew_boyd;o/ ThickAsThieves 347827;1381508226;nubbins`;hi 347828;1381508262;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 0.09 = 0.45 BTC [+] 347829;1381508384;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 17 @ 0.00923698 = 0.157 BTC [+] {2} 347830;1381508460;phungus;I wish Havelock would respond to ANY of BitVPS's queries about possibly moving to their exchange 347831;1381508471;phungus;Anyone here associated with Havelock? 347832;1381508506;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 10 @ 0.091 = 0.91 BTC [-] 347833;1381508507;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00085326 = 3.5837 BTC [+] {2} 347834;1381508571;kakobrekla;phungus: topace 347835;1381508581;phungus;topace 347836;1381508582;phungus;gotcha 347837;1381508583;phungus;thanks 347838;1381508584;topace;yes ? 347839;1381508590;topace;oh 347840;1381508593;topace;our emails have been down 347841;1381508594;topace;for 2 days 347842;1381508595;topace;DDOS 347843;1381508598;phungus;hey. Namworld has been emailing for weeks though 347844;1381508600;topace;our inbound emails 347845;1381508605;phungus;I think 347846;1381508608;topace;oh 347847;1381508611;phungus;ever since the BTCT announcement 347848;1381508619;topace;we arent taking on any new listings at the moment 347849;1381508622;phungus;we have shareholders that are screwed atm 347850;1381508624;phungus;oh crap 347851;1381508627;phungus;:-( 347852;1381508631;topace;until we figure out our regulatory situation 347853;1381508634;phungus;that is sad because BitVPS is a legit, real company 347854;1381508636;arij;O_o 347855;1381508638;topace;indeed 347856;1381508640;arij;halp 347857;1381508641;topace;hold tight 347858;1381508644;topace;once we get our emails back up 347859;1381508655;topace;we're close to finalizing details with our lawyers 347860;1381508661;phungus;well that is good 347861;1381508663;topace;and should have answers soon 347862;1381508673;phungus;we would love to grace your exchange with our ticket 347863;1381508674;topace;and _hopefully_ can oepn back up applications 347864;1381508674;phungus;ticker 347865;1381508675;phungus;:-) 347866;1381508700;topace;but we will NOT carte-blanche accept all listings from btct/bf, normal due diligence rules will still apply 347867;1381508709;phungus;yeah, understood 347868;1381508715;topace;historicallyl we 347869;1381508718;matthew_boyd;I have an alt-coin ticker. :D 347870;1381508722;phungus;like I said before, we're probably one of the only 'real' businesses 347871;1381508725;topace;historically, we've rejected about 90% of applicants 347872;1381508733;topace;yea 347873;1381508734;phungus;and we've been around for 2 years now 347874;1381508737;topace;i like bitvps 347875;1381508739;topace;i have a vps with you :p 347876;1381508742;phungus;hah 347877;1381508743;phungus;werd 347878;1381508754;phungus;well, at least we know where it stands now 347879;1381508757;topace;i originally tried to use it to run my websocket from, but gave up, and went to pusher.com 347880;1381508773;phungus;topace: we have some new dedi offerings that are about to be ready that might work better 347881;1381508778;phungus;48GB ram, quad cores 347882;1381508788;phungus;I bet that would be enough 347883;1381508790;phungus;:-) 347884;1381508825;arij;dual quadcore 347885;1381508827;arij;* 347886;1381508828;phungus;but also, it depends on the tech underneath. We have SSD nodes, KVM. Xen, and OpenVZ 347887;1381508833;phungus;yes, dual quad cores 347888;1381508838;phungus;for under $200/mo 347889;1381508846;phungus;I think 347890;1381508856;arij;thats right :) 347891;1381508862;topace;brb phone 347892;1381509082;nubbins`;http://bitbet.us/bet/552/havelock-will-announce-us-restrictions-by-guy-fawkes/ 347893;1381509084;ozbot;BitBet - Havelock will announce US restrictions by Guy Fawkes Night 347894;1381509470;topace;heh cna i use insider knowledge to bet ? 347895;1381509484;jimmy2k;damn shit, i just saw someone who won a 1 - 10 odds bet 40 times in a row 347896;1381509485;topace;guess there's no wya of stopping me 347897;1381509497;jimmy2k;on just-dice wtf? 347898;1381509506;nubbins`;topace: you sure can! 347899;1381509516;phungus;lol 347900;1381509526;phungus;so 347901;1381509529;phungus;watch bitbet currently 347902;1381509532;mircea_popescu;;;later tell jborkl yeah 347903;1381509532;gribble;The operation succeeded. 347904;1381509539;phungus;watch what happens after topace bets 347905;1381509546;phungus;all of us benefit 347906;1381509547;phungus;lol 347907;1381509566;phungus;Weighted No: 23`297 347908;1381509567;phungus;Weighted Yes: 35`904 347909;1381509577;phungus;Current weight: 91`025 ( from 100`000 to 1 ) 347910;1381509578;phungus;Confirmed bets: 5 ( No: 2 / Yes: 3 ) 347911;1381509580;phungus;ok 347912;1381509581;nubbins`;watch what happens when i place a 1btc bet and everyone thinks it's topace 347913;1381509584;phungus;so there is our start 347914;1381509586;phungus;lol 347915;1381509589;phungus;only 5 bets so far 347916;1381509623;jimmy2k;is dooglus here sometimes? 347917;1381509677;mircea_popescu;yeah, occasionally. 347918;1381509704;jcpham;when is guy fawkes night and who the fuck is guy fawkes 347919;1381509708;jimmy2k;how is his nick then mircea_popescu ? 347920;1381509713;jimmy2k;like in the forum? 347921;1381509724;jimmy2k;;;seen dooglus? 347922;1381509724;gribble;I have not seen dooglus?. 347923;1381509735;ThickAsThieves;he's almost never here 347924;1381509764;mircea_popescu;it 347925;1381509766;mircea_popescu;s dooglus 347926;1381509783;mircea_popescu;;;seen dooglus 347927;1381509783;gribble;dooglus was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 9 weeks, 1 day, 13 hours, 51 minutes, and 8 seconds ago: seen mircea_popescu? 347928;1381509789;mircea_popescu;lolk 347929;1381509826;jimmy2k;i really think there is an issue with the random generator 347930;1381509845;jimmy2k;how freakin unlikely is it that someone wins a 1-9 odds bet 40 times in a row 347931;1381509855;nubbins`;jcpham: november 5, duh! 347932;1381509855;nubbins`;bonfire night 347933;1381509855;nubbins`;;;seen dooglus 347934;1381509855;mircea_popescu;you know how to calculate those odds ? 347935;1381509855;gribble;dooglus was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 9 weeks, 1 day, 13 hours, 52 minutes, and 20 seconds ago: seen mircea_popescu? 347936;1381509856;jimmy2k;1/9^40 347937;1381509887;jcpham;oic 347938;1381509909;jimmy2k;actully its 1/10^40 347939;1381509917;jimmy2k;thats really not realistic 347940;1381509919;jimmy2k;... 347941;1381509970;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5550 @ 0.00084991 = 4.717 BTC [-] {2} 347942;1381510004;mircea_popescu;that 347943;1381510006;nubbins`;ie-40! 347944;1381510008;mircea_popescu;s not exactly correct tho 347945;1381510010;nubbins`;i mean, 1e-40 347946;1381510074;mircea_popescu;did the person do the same exact thing ? 347947;1381510096;mircea_popescu;i mean, having 1 come out of 40 consecutive 1-10 rolls is not the same as having a player always bet on the correct outcome 40 times in a row 347948;1381510111;ThickAsThieves;the odds are 1:9, each time. Simple! 347949;1381510121;nubbins`;well, yes 347950;1381510128;mircea_popescu;but that aside, we have had all sorts of doubts and suspicions about that for months now. 347951;1381510130;nubbins`;each individual roll is 1:9 347952;1381510136;nubbins`;40 in a row, though 347953;1381510143;nubbins`;infinitesimally small 347954;1381510145;mircea_popescu;this includes dooglus himself, but so far nobody's proven much 347955;1381510155;nubbins`;although obv just as likely to happen as any other given 40-roll combo 347956;1381510162;nubbins`;sometimes you get a royal flush 347957;1381510168;mircea_popescu;nubbins` there's a l'hospital rule which tells you what are the odds of Y probabilty event occuring in X tries. 347958;1381510189;nubbins`;yep 347959;1381510194;nubbins`;<--math degree 347960;1381510212;mircea_popescu;aha. so ok. out of what, 10^7 bets or so ? 347961;1381510232;mircea_popescu;40 consecutive 1's in a 1-10 roll are still pretty darn unlikely. 347962;1381510249;jimmy2k;i will upload the screen in the forum as soon as i am at home 347963;1381510252;jurov;phungus, namworld: why "pls halp"? just track the shares on your own... problem solved 347964;1381510259;jimmy2k;honestly this is crazy 347965;1381510268;mircea_popescu;jimmy2k one thing you can do is simulate it. 347966;1381510272;mircea_popescu;they allow 0 btc bets iirc. 347967;1381510283;mircea_popescu;you can run that for a while and see the quality. 347968;1381510285;Bunnyh;jimmy2k: maybe you had your filter set up so that you only saw the wins? 347969;1381510287;phungus;jurov: I've thought about that 347970;1381510293;Bunnyh;if you filter for btc won, not btc risked 347971;1381510294;phungus;jurov: not sure we have the resources, honestly 347972;1381510314;jurov;phungus" i 347973;1381510337;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 65 @ 0.07320179 = 4.7581 BTC [-] {20} 347974;1381510340;jurov;phungus i can make you an app for simple registration and shares transfers 347975;1381510348;jurov;for, say, 5btc 347976;1381510355;jurov;aint rocket science 347977;1381510355;phungus;jurov: hmmmm 347978;1381510368;phungus;jurov: I will discuss this with the others 347979;1381510379;phungus;jurov: thx 347980;1381510394;jurov;no trade engine necessary 347981;1381510429;mircea_popescu;so here's the beauty of american courts. in May Coinlab sues MtGox. In SEPTEMBER!!! MtGox replies. 347982;1381510439;mjr_;lol 347983;1381510448;mjr_;how is everyone 347984;1381510448;mircea_popescu;on the other hand, in August USG sues pirate, the same day the judge rules and the sentence is passed. 347985;1381510456;mircea_popescu;i gotta buy my own magistrate judges, this is a scandal. 347986;1381510467;mjr_;its funny 347987;1381510483;mjr_;in pakistan, one of the things the taliban offered the people was prompt speedy court trials 347988;1381510489;mjr_;and the people supported them because of that 347989;1381510503;mjr_;because it was possible to die of old age before getting your day in court in pakistan 347990;1381510521;mjr_;of course, the taliban did not turn out to be the nice helpful people one would have hoped for 347991;1381510539;mjr_;but still, access to speedy redress by law is a big need for people 347992;1381510545;mircea_popescu;ya well herp. tyvm but a court system that waits after hours to suck govt cock, like the recent lavabit case 347993;1381510556;mircea_popescu;and then does jack shit in private cases... heh. tyvm, but no. 347994;1381510559;mjr_;yeah 347995;1381510561;mjr_;i agree 347996;1381510576;nubbins`;well, govt is govt 347997;1381510585;mjr_;my point is that when courts start sucking this bad, people will even support the taliban to get the services they need 347998;1381510590;nubbins`;provincial govt here has a nice trick where they issue press releases at 4:30pm on fridays 347999;1381510603;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/so-whos-running-the-courts-circus/ 348000;1381510603;ozbot;So who’s running the Courts circus ? pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 348001;1381510604;nubbins`;so media doesn't get around to serious coverage til the following monday 348002;1381510615;mircea_popescu;check that shit out. the judge actually sat around thje courthouse after closing time to write orders 348003;1381510625;jborkl;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=297503.msg3320083#msg3320083 348004;1381510627;ozbot;[ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] 348005;1381510632;mircea_popescu;mjr_ you prolly have a poin there. 348006;1381510632;jborkl;fancy new bitcoin accounting 348007;1381510660;nubbins`;hahahahahahaha 348008;1381510675;nubbins`;sales include promises to buy 348009;1381510682;nubbins`;sweet 348010;1381510682;mircea_popescu;an0 or death. 348011;1381510706;nubbins`;"so basically if you abandoned your shopping cart because you wanted a cointerra instead, ken is still counting your order as a sale" 348012;1381510708;nubbins`;lel 348013;1381510724;jborkl;I think PR needs to get involved in that one :) 348014;1381510734;mircea_popescu;nubbins` any editor worth his salt would in response make fridays workdays 8am to 8pm and give ppl tuesday of 348015;1381510741;mircea_popescu;jborkl selfmod threads get ignored. 348016;1381510761;nubbins`;mircea_popescu: then how are they supposed to write indignant editorials? 348017;1381510761;jborkl;ah, did not notice that 348018;1381510780;mircea_popescu;you just lock them in the office. "you leave here once you've covered the prs" 348019;1381510809;mircea_popescu;make it clear that as long as the provincial govt continues with the practice, everyone's weekeend is shot. 348020;1381510824;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.9999 BTC [-] 348021;1381510905;nubbins`;ooh, i've been selected for a free cruise to the bahamas! 348022;1381510922;nubbins`;all i must do is press 1 to participate in a survey!! 348023;1381510946;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1550 @ 0.00085477 = 1.3249 BTC [+] 348024;1381510947;nubbins`;i used to hang up on calls like this, now i just lay the phone down and let the robocaller time out 348025;1381510949;mircea_popescu;sorry nubs, the bahamas is shutdown 348026;1381510952;mircea_popescu;because it is part of the OCEAN 348027;1381510971;nubbins`;yeah afaik the usa claims jurisdiction over oceans 348028;1381510983;nubbins`;because americans drink water 348029;1381511006;mircea_popescu;seems reasonable. 348030;1381511100;jborkl;so if someone in Africa pees in the ocean , is that a act of terror? 348031;1381511111;jborkl;threat level yellow 348032;1381511142;nubbins`;we pump raw sewage into the ocean here, we're probably on all types of lists 348033;1381511158;jborkl;of are you French? 348034;1381511161;jborkl;oh 348035;1381511165;mircea_popescu;the japanese pumped fukushima waste water into the ocean 348036;1381511167;mircea_popescu;terrorists. 348037;1381511196;nubbins`;nah canadian 348038;1381511204;nubbins`;TBF they built a sewage treatment plant 348039;1381511217;nubbins`;but of course the contractors fucked it up and it's been shut down until it can be fixed 348040;1381511254;jborkl;I went of vacation to Martinugue, they still have open sewer systems draining down the side of the road :/ 348041;1381511258;nubbins`;:0 348042;1381511261;jborkl;Martinique 348043;1381511278;nubbins`;my apartment in second-best korea was near an open sewer 348044;1381511289;nubbins`;the smell still reminds me of that place 348045;1381511312;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2950 @ 0.00085477 = 2.5216 BTC [+] 348046;1381511401;mircea_popescu;do you mean that in a good way ? 348047;1381511453;ThickAsThieves;The inability of people to follow directions is appalling 348048;1381511483;nubbins`;nah 348049;1381511504;mircea_popescu;jesus twitter is almost as stupid as reddit by now. 348050;1381511504;nubbins`;while i appreciate the experience, i had an overall negative experience while living in SK 348051;1381511520;nubbins`;now the smell of sewage reminds me of bad times 348052;1381511526;nubbins`;which, i suppose, is fitting 348053;1381511533;mircea_popescu;what were you doing there anyway ? 348054;1381511550;nubbins`;same thing every canadian with a university degree was doing 348055;1381511564;nubbins`;teaching english 348056;1381511567;mircea_popescu;scoring cheap azn cunt for packaged consumer goods ? 348057;1381511569;mircea_popescu;or that. 348058;1381511575;nubbins`;and that 348059;1381511596;nubbins`;plenty of "party girls" karaoke bars 348060;1381511627;nubbins`;anyway, relatively high pay, relatively low cost of living 348061;1381511648;nubbins`;you can get drunk every night, eat out every day, and still send home $1000+ per month 348062;1381511662;mircea_popescu;ya but you're surrouinded by idiots and wasting your time. 348063;1381511706;nubbins`;well, that's only half true 348064;1381511729;nubbins`;(half the people are idiots and half your time is wasted) 348065;1381511734;mircea_popescu;lol 348066;1381511750;nubbins`;i'm of two minds on the whole thing 348067;1381511783;nubbins`;it was my first time travelling to a foreign country alone, which led to me being bitten by the travel bug, which i consider a huge positive 348068;1381511792;nubbins`;and i was able to pay off my student loans in only 9 months 348069;1381511797;mircea_popescu;i dunno, in my experience citizens of totalitarian regimes make excellent servants but poor company. 348070;1381511807;nubbins`;nono, i said second-best korea 348071;1381511812;nubbins`;not best korea 348072;1381511813;mircea_popescu;o o wait. 348073;1381511826;mircea_popescu;i mixed them up huh. kay. 348074;1381511829;mircea_popescu;diff story then 348075;1381511833;nubbins`;everybody does 348076;1381511840;nubbins`;did you know samsung makes cars over there? 348077;1381511845;nubbins`;and apartment building complexes? 348078;1381511848;mircea_popescu;yeah 348079;1381511853;mircea_popescu;chaebol thing 348080;1381511866;nubbins`;and kimchi fridges, which is possibly the strangest home appliance i've ever seen 348081;1381511871;nubbins`;s/is/are 348082;1381511894;mircea_popescu;http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/77/South_Korea's_GDP_(PPP)_growth_from_1911_to_2008.png 348083;1381511898;mircea_popescu;the bitcoin of countries. 348084;1381511915;nubbins`;they do not fuck around at all 348085;1381511917;ThickAsThieves;I'm getting migration requests for "TAT.S.MPOE-PT" 348086;1381511918;ThickAsThieves;lol 348087;1381511945;nubbins`;mircea_popescu: large gap between rich and poot 348088;1381511948;nubbins`;i mean poor 348089;1381511953;phungus;rich and poot 348090;1381511953;phungus;lol 348091;1381511968;phungus;mmm are you rich or do you poot? 348092;1381511976;nubbins`;old ladies selling boiled insects on street corners outside 100-story skyscrapers 348093;1381511989;mircea_popescu;that gap is the best thing in the world. 348094;1381512017;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves is that a good thing ? 348095;1381512035;nubbins`;but even the poor have lots of tech 348096;1381512055;nubbins`;that old lady selling bugs has a cellphone that can receive live television 200ft underground 348097;1381512071;nubbins`;it's a country of really odd juxtapositions 348098;1381512144;nubbins`;anyway, that GDP chart is more luck than anything. it was decided that the north part of korea would be used for agriculture and the south part for industry 348099;1381512163;nubbins`;but then war-by-proxy drew a nice wide line through the middle 348100;1381512189;nubbins`;and it turned out industry was more of a money-maker than growing rice 348101;1381512209;ThickAsThieves; ThickAsThieves is that a good thing ? --- I run no such PT 348102;1381512214;mircea_popescu;where's luck figure into that ? 348103;1381512242;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves there you go, crashing people's dreams. 348104;1381512243;nubbins`;well, if they decided that agriculture belonged in the south, then seoul wouldn't exist 348105;1381512253;mircea_popescu;they were rich in inexistent pt holdings of mpoe stock 348106;1381512256;nubbins`;and best korea would be making kimchi fridges 348107;1381512266;mircea_popescu;nubbins` no it wouldn't. 348108;1381512275;ThickAsThieves;they of course are thinking of Namworld's PT 348109;1381512287;ThickAsThieves;but funny how they just add TAT. in front and email me 348110;1381512305;ThickAsThieves;and presume it exists on Havelock 348111;1381512306;mircea_popescu;lol 348112;1381512309;nubbins`;mircea_popescu: you're suggesting that proximity to china/ussr was more of a deciding factor in NK's fate? 348113;1381512349;mircea_popescu;nubbins` im suggesting that the part in which the govt was going to be strong was going to starve, and the part where the govt was going to suck entrepreneur cock was going to boom. 348114;1381512357;mircea_popescu;this irrespective of any considerations whatsoever at all. 348115;1381512366;nubbins`;hmm 348116;1381512393;mircea_popescu;if you use the state to borrow money which you give to the business people to do stuff, you'll be rich. it worked fgor koreea, it worked for venice 1k years before that. 348117;1381512411;mircea_popescu;if you use the state for any other purpose, including "to make people happy", to "fight racism" or whatever, to clean up grafitti, 348118;1381512411;nubbins`;that's an interesting point 348119;1381512412;mircea_popescu;you will starve. 348120;1381512428;mircea_popescu;strictly the only consideration is how dedicated the whole of society is to sucking businessman cock. 348121;1381512452;nubbins`;SK as a rule are intensely dedicated to this 348122;1381512458;mircea_popescu;yea 348123;1381512466;mircea_popescu;it shows, for instance in that graph. 348124;1381512473;nubbins`;you can seriously buy buddhist charms that are supposed to give you luck in your government exams 348125;1381512477;mircea_popescu;it's not luck except in the sense of "they got lucky", now they have cum on upper lip. 348126;1381512488;nubbins`;like, specifically, those particular exams 348127;1381512527;nubbins`;not general luck, or even general academic luck 348128;1381512542;nubbins`;anyway, only i think 1/4 of the population was buddhist 348129;1381512557;nubbins`;much more laid back than the christian 1/4, which was unwaveringly insufferable 348130;1381512593;ThickAsThieves;why do buddhists care about luck? 348131;1381512614;ThickAsThieves;isn't buddhism like nihilism made into a less depressing concept 348132;1381512626;phungus;lol 348133;1381512656;nubbins`;nah, they're all about karma 348134;1381512665;nubbins`;in the actual sense of the word, not the misappropriated sense 348135;1381512683;ThickAsThieves;but i recall the epitome of buddhism being nothingness 348136;1381512717;ThickAsThieves;impact-neutral zen 348137;1381512718;nubbins`;well, the goal is zen/nirvana/whatever more often than not 348138;1381512718;Diablo-D3;ThickAsThieves: so Im thinking 348139;1381512719;ThickAsThieves;or whatever 348140;1381512723;ThickAsThieves;uh oh 348141;1381512727;Diablo-D3;I think I could make an open source GPU 348142;1381512735;Diablo-D3;that could beat amd and nvidia 348143;1381512738;ThickAsThieves;... 348144;1381512750;nubbins`;but you can't be zen if you don't pass your government exams 348145;1381512762;nubbins`;and marry and have kids (bonus points if it's a lucky year) 348146;1381512774;nubbins`;and take care of your parents/in-laws until they die 348147;1381512787;mircea_popescu;doesn't sound too zen to me. 348148;1381512795;nubbins`;did i mention there are huge alcohol problems? 348149;1381512810;mircea_popescu;how about the govt can't be zen until it passes you and the future wife can;'t be zen untill she marries you and gets pregnant ? 348150;1381512825;ThickAsThieves;D3, why do you always wanna do things that can't be done, and then execute on things that shouldnt be done? 348151;1381512833;nubbins`;mircea_popescu: that's not far off from the reality 348152;1381512854;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves what did he do now ? 348153;1381512855;nubbins`;the future wife literally cannot be zen until she is married with children 348154;1381512870;ThickAsThieves;[13:32] I think I could make an open source GPU 348155;1381512870;ThickAsThieves;[13:32] that could beat amd and nvidia 348156;1381512875;mircea_popescu;nubbins` cool. i imagine dating is very relaxing there 348157;1381512889;nubbins`;it's very stressful 348158;1381512902;nubbins`;they have colour days at least once a month with the intent of fostering romance 348159;1381512906;mircea_popescu;http://world.time.com/2013/10/08/north-korea-puts-troops-on-war-footing-and-warns-of-horrible-disaster/ 348160;1381512907;ozbot;North Korea Puts Troops on War Footing and Warns of ‘Horrible Disaster’ | TIME.com 348161;1381512924;nubbins`;valentines day, men give gifts to women. white day (march 14), women give gifts to men. green day, singles wear green 348162;1381512932;nubbins`;etc etc 348163;1381512934;nubbins`;pepero day, everyone gives each other pepero 348164;1381512943;mircea_popescu;no dildo day ? 348165;1381512946;nubbins`;not yet 348166;1381512958;nubbins`;although there is a sex park on jeju island 348167;1381512966;nubbins`;that lots of couples visit on honeymoon 348168;1381512971;mircea_popescu;sponsored by jeju jel ? 348169;1381512984;ThickAsThieves;maybe NK should actually shoot someone so people can take them seriosly 348170;1381512986;ThickAsThieves;u 348171;1381512991;nubbins`;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Love_Land_interactive_articulated_puppet.jpg 348172;1381513002;mircea_popescu;jesus that looks sad 348173;1381513019;nubbins`;http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Scenes+Theme+Park+Love+Land+Jeju+KRBK46RtoMbl.jpg 348174;1381513025;nubbins`;some of it is EPIC 348175;1381513037;nubbins`;http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Scenes+Theme+Park+Love+Land+Jeju+_V7gdKGA_FNl.jpg 348176;1381513041;ThickAsThieves;awesome 348177;1381513055;mircea_popescu;kinda shitty. 348178;1381513057;ThickAsThieves;why are all the men western 348179;1381513063;nubbins`;http://cdn2.listsoplenty.com/listsoplenty-cdn/pix/uploads/2012/03/South-Korea_s-Jeju-Island-Love-Land.jpg 348180;1381513067;mircea_popescu;i dunno man, i'm born among the greek sculpture work. 348181;1381513075;nubbins`;yeah 348182;1381513079;ThickAsThieves;lol 348183;1381513082;nubbins`;doesn't hold a candle to that, i guess 348184;1381513095;nubbins`;there was one sculpture that was literally a glory hole 348185;1381513098;nubbins`;can't find a pic 348186;1381513103;mircea_popescu;http://img.myconfinedspace.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/1166615591_10.thumbnail.jpg 348187;1381513105;mircea_popescu;that is kinda good. 348188;1381513119;nubbins`;aha! 348189;1381513124;nubbins`;http://cdn.enjoyourholiday.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Jeju-sex-park-Korea-image15.jpg 348190;1381513124;ThickAsThieves;mother nature getting some 348191;1381513144;mircea_popescu;http://img.myconfinedspace.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/1166615591_06.thumbnail.jpg why's the guy derpy and fat ? 348192;1381513164;nubbins`;prolly cos he's white 348193;1381513166;nubbins`;http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Scenes+Theme+Park+Love+Land+Jeju+KXsx0UHWB_vl.jpg 348194;1381513185;mircea_popescu;do they have a "topless only" rule for visiting ? 348195;1381513201;nubbins`;nah, koreans are too prudish for that 348196;1381513205;ThickAsThieves;so it's a sex park to see statues, not to have sex 348197;1381513223;mircea_popescu;well... a park with niormal statues where the girls had to check out their blouse at the entrance 348198;1381513224;nubbins`;honestly, the fact this park exists is extremely bizarre, given their attitudes toward sex in general 348199;1381513228;mircea_popescu;would work a lot better than this atrocity. 348200;1381513231;nubbins`;not as repressed as japan, but close 348201;1381513235;nubbins`;http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Scenes+Theme+Park+Love+Land+Jeju+gX5qq4sFQfRl.jpg 348202;1381513239;mircea_popescu;im sorry but here you'd flunk art school if that was your product 348203;1381513240;nubbins`;^^^ common sight 348204;1381513247;ThickAsThieves;this park would probly do well in NY 348205;1381513306;mircea_popescu;maybe they should make topless day. on april 15th you take your gf to the magical park and she gives you her top. 348206;1381513320;mircea_popescu;then you give her a dinner and a movie or w/e they do 348207;1381513331;nubbins`;dinner and some karaoke 348208;1381513361;mircea_popescu;a ok. shrimp and shit ? or what's the best meal there ? 348209;1381513367;mircea_popescu;bird's nest ? 348210;1381513403;nubbins`;korean cuisine is the best in the world, bar none 348211;1381513410;nubbins`;it's the only reason i'd ever consider going back there 348212;1381513418;mircea_popescu;msut be all the piss. 348213;1381513424;mod6;lol 348214;1381513431;nubbins`;dolsot bibimbap is really good 348215;1381513436;nubbins`;as is kimchi jjigae 348216;1381513445;nubbins`;all of it, really 348217;1381513456;mircea_popescu;A North Korean military spokesman said that the U.S. would be wholly accountable for the unexpected horrible disaster that faced its imperialist aggression forces. 348218;1381513462;mircea_popescu;well if it's unexpected... 348219;1381513467;nubbins`;see, traditional korean food is not only delicious as fuck, but good for you 348220;1381513471;mircea_popescu;nubbins` hey you canadian folks didn't also teach logic did you 348221;1381513476;nubbins`;traditional food here is root vegetables and salt beef 348222;1381513491;nubbins`;mircea_popescu: logic has no place in north/south relations 348223;1381513507;mircea_popescu;it's the same thing in romania, traditional food is delicious and good for oyu. it's the same thing in all countries where "traditional" means 2k years rather than w/e, 60 348224;1381513528;mod6;pizza rolls arent traditional? 348225;1381513533;nubbins`;whitey has been on this island for 500 years 348226;1381513550;nubbins`;and it's been salt fish, salt beef, and root veg that whole time 348227;1381513557;nubbins`;now everyone is fat and has heart attacks 348228;1381513557;ThickAsThieves;http://www.popehat.com/2013/10/10/silk-road-update-federal-prosecutors-file-separate-forfeiture-complaint/ 348229;1381513587;mircea_popescu;lol the entire "gimme money" uncle sam tactics don't work so well in btc ? 348230;1381513610;nubbins`;you'd think they'd at least cc the bitcoin foundation on that complaint 348231;1381513647;nubbins`;"identity hearing"? 348232;1381513647;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves who's running the popehat ? 348233;1381513661;ThickAsThieves;dunno 348234;1381513714;nubbins`;UNITED STATES v. ANY AND ALL ASSETS OF SILK ROAD, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE SILK ROAD HIDDEN WEBSITE AND ANY AND ALL BITCOINS CONTAINED IN WALLET FILES RESIDING ON SILK ROAD SERVERS, INCLUDING THE SERVERS ASSIGNED THE FOLLOWING INTERNET PROTOCOL ADDRESSES: 46.183.219.244; 109.163.234.40; 193.107.86.34; 193.107.86.49; 207.106.6.25; AND 207.106.6.32; 348235;1381513722;nubbins`;that *is* a comical case name 348236;1381513768;ThickAsThieves;"“Don’t let tea farmers get f****d, buy directly from the source. Don’t let the financial system f*** us, use bitcoin!” 348237;1381513768;ThickAsThieves;Elyse Petersen, founder and CEO of Hawaii-based farm-direct tea marketplace Tealet, felt these were the right words to accompany her company’s announcement that it would begin accepting bitcoin payments starting 17th September. They echoed Tealet’s core values, illustrated bitcoin’s utility and grabbed attention. 348238;1381513768;ThickAsThieves;Unfortunately, some of Tealet’s partners didn’t appreciate the message." 348239;1381513774;nubbins`;users' unspent funds are not the proceeds of crime though, hey? 348240;1381513792;mircea_popescu;nubbins` moreover meaningless. 348241;1381513797;mircea_popescu;it's a case against unspecified items. 348242;1381513802;nubbins`;o 348243;1381513806;nubbins`;well! 348244;1381513809;jurov;What if Silk Road is holding some of your Bitcoins as part of some transaction? Why, all you have to do is show up and make a claim for them — in a case in which the government is saying that all or substantially all of the transactions through Silk Road are federal crimes. Bring a toothbrush. 348245;1381513813;nubbins`;UNITED STATES v. EVERYTHING 348246;1381513816;mircea_popescu;"i hereby sue all the people who might have pissed me off" 348247;1381513829;ThickAsThieves;and may piss you off in the future? 348248;1381513837;ThickAsThieves;might as well cover that too 348249;1381513841;nubbins`;jurov: well, an idiot would make a claim for in-limbo funds 348250;1381513845;mircea_popescu;the usg is not that advanced as of yet. 348251;1381513855;nubbins`;how about the guy who just transferred 1btc to his SR wallet? 348252;1381513859;mircea_popescu;tho the lavabit prosecutor was TRYING, as the judge pointed out 348253;1381513883;nubbins`;that judge deserves some bitcoin 348254;1381513927;mircea_popescu;no judge deserves any bitcoin. 348255;1381513978;nubbins`;jurov: siezing funds in user accounts is like the cops knocking on my door and demanding the contents of any jars with "to be used for drugs" on the label 348256;1381513985;nubbins`;future crime! 348257;1381514040;ThickAsThieves;i dunno 348258;1381514043;mircea_popescu;actually if the us residend youth wasn't braindamaged, there'd be a bunch of "DRUGS" labeled containers everwhere 348259;1381514045;ThickAsThieves;this is more like 348260;1381514046;jurov;so why the distingushed author felt a need of such utterance? 348261;1381514050;mircea_popescu;as well as a bunch of "child porn" files on all hard drives 348262;1381514060;ThickAsThieves;you give your money to drug distributor as credit for future buys 348263;1381514066;ThickAsThieves;and he gets nabbed 348264;1381514086;mircea_popescu;This seems an opportune time to add, for the benefit of readers who weren't around in the 1980's, that the law pertaining to in rem forfeitures developed in the context of narcotics seizures. Prior to that, the legal maxim, the law abhors a forfeiture, was the rule, and judges were generally antagonistic to forfeiture proceedings. 348265;1381514087;mircea_popescu;In the 80's, with the crack outbreak, the feds began aggressively seeking forfeiture of proceeds, substitute proceeds and instrumentalities of crime. At the time, no one (except those of us actively engaged in the drug and forfeiture defense ) gave a damn, and the law that developed was quite harsh. 348266;1381514089;ThickAsThieves;dont pretend these people deserve their btc back 348267;1381514103;mircea_popescu;there. good poibnt. the entire in rem proceeding is a laughable piece of nonsense, in law. 348268;1381514121;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves unless you have proof of the foregoing, it's not that they "deserve" it. 348269;1381514127;mircea_popescu;it's that it;s theirs and you're stealing it. 348270;1381514140;mircea_popescu;no better than the guy you're supposedly prosecuting. in fact, worse. he traded, he didn't steal. 348271;1381514149;ThickAsThieves;but the accounts are owned by SR 348272;1381514151;ThickAsThieves;not the users 348273;1381514158;mircea_popescu;says who ? 348274;1381514166;ThickAsThieves;SR holds the keys 348275;1381514168;asciilifeform;actually the current US policy re: forfeiture is very exactly Soviet. 348276;1381514172;nubbins`;well, my house is owned by the bank. doesn't mean they can come take my television. 348277;1381514176;mircea_popescu;cool. gotta remember this for the pirate case. 348278;1381514179;mircea_popescu;he owned the btc right ? 348279;1381514187;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform indeed. 348280;1381514196;ThickAsThieves;in that case he issued securities 348281;1381514201;mircea_popescu;nono, it was his btc. 348282;1381514207;mircea_popescu;cause he had the keys. 348283;1381514218;ThickAsThieves;he was not the marketplace, was he? 348284;1381514249;mircea_popescu;derp. 348285;1381514250;nubbins`;what's the argument for these people not "deserving" their btc back? 348286;1381514260;mircea_popescu;nubbins` they had it, the government wants it. 348287;1381514265;jurov;they are all criminalz 348288;1381514266;nubbins`;because they put them on a website where bad people sold bad things? 348289;1381514301;nubbins`;i advance the opinion that it's not anyone else's place to decide who deserves my money, regardless of where i keep it 348290;1381514309;deadweasel;you kept money on SR? 348291;1381514316;mircea_popescu;coming soon to a walmart near you, your car was impounded because you parked it last month in the parking lot of a supermarket that was violating federal regulation #. 348292;1381514317;ThickAsThieves;i'm not saying my point is a solid argument to do it, but we all know those people wont get their coins 348293;1381514336;nubbins`;tat, we all know this, yes 348294;1381514336;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves well yeah they won't. but there's no solid argument, and that's important. 348295;1381514350;nubbins`;we also all know that it's groundless 348296;1381514352;mircea_popescu;basicvally the usg is indistinguishable in practice from the common criminal. 348297;1381514354;nubbins`;but it won't be fought for 348298;1381514354;ThickAsThieves;even if they wanted to give them back, could they do so reliably? 348299;1381514363;ThickAsThieves;maybe they hire TATI to do migrations 348300;1381514367;mircea_popescu;ahahah 348301;1381514373;nubbins`;well, they could put the website back up with the listings removed 348302;1381514389;nubbins`;although we all know that nobody would withdraw their funds anyway 348303;1381514390;mircea_popescu;nubbins` the gigavps method 348304;1381514397;nubbins`;mp, before my time 348305;1381514399;mircea_popescu;"send us a signed thing via mail" 348306;1381514411;phungus;some goods on SR were legal 348307;1381514418;nubbins`;some, yes 348308;1381514424;mircea_popescu;were there ? like what ? 348309;1381514434;nubbins`;i can't recall 348310;1381514439;nubbins`;porn passwords 348311;1381514440;mjr_;eh, i think that more services should allow you to "attach" your own wallet 348312;1381514445;nubbins`;nothing of value 348313;1381514447;mjr_;and keep your private keys 348314;1381514454;mjr_;that way...this never happens 348315;1381514474;mjr_;also, you don't have to manage user funds, and take that liability 348316;1381514476;nubbins`;mjr_: so a 3-party tx where the site acts as escrow? 348317;1381514477;phungus;there were small things available like certain pipes and stuff like that 348318;1381514490;phungus;and people sold bitcoins or cash for bitcoins 348319;1381514499;mjr_;no...basically, i have a blockchain wallet already 348320;1381514501;phungus;and there was that blotter artwork 348321;1381514501;mjr_;let me use that 348322;1381514504;ThickAsThieves;attaching your own wallet wont work 348323;1381514508;phungus;it wasn't actual blotter, just artwork 348324;1381514510;mjr_;why not? 348325;1381514517;ThickAsThieves;plus you lose the ability to do offchain tx 348326;1381514520;mircea_popescu;porn passwords aren;'t legal. 348327;1381514523;mjr_;depends 348328;1381514525;nubbins`;blotter artwork is an interesting thing 348329;1381514533;ThickAsThieves;unless you do it like Weex 348330;1381514538;mjr_;my point is that to do off chain you have to trust the site operator 348331;1381514549;mjr_;and in the case of SR you lost your money 348332;1381514563;mjr_;i think you should have an option to attach your blockchain wallet, people can see how much funds you have 348333;1381514569;nubbins`;i suppose i should go silkscreen a huge BTC logo on a nice thick cotton rag paper, and then perforate it into tiny squares 348334;1381514572;nubbins`;sell it for $50 on ebay 348335;1381514574;mircea_popescu;mjr_ in fairness, i expect the lost btc mostly belonged to the operator, and some to dealers. 348336;1381514576;mjr_;you can still both send multisig to an administrative site 348337;1381514582;mircea_popescu;it's unlikely any end user kept 100 btc in there 348338;1381514594;mjr_;depends 348339;1381514596;mjr_;i agree 348340;1381514600;mjr_;in the broad case 348341;1381514606;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.93220001 = 1.8644 BTC [-] {2} 348342;1381514608;mjr_;but if one person had his 100 bitcoin stolen 348343;1381514608;nubbins`;mircea_popescu: biggest losers were the dealers. thousands of $$ in limbo at any given time 348344;1381514611;mjr_;is it ok? 348345;1381514623;mjr_;yeah, and i wonder how the people the dealers owe money to will feel 348346;1381514633;nubbins`;pretty good 348347;1381514635;mircea_popescu;mjr_ the cost for the joe schmoes to understand and use multi tx > the probable loss to them as is. 348348;1381514642;nubbins`;you need to realize that selling on sr was VERY lucrative 348349;1381514645;mjr_;yes 348350;1381514647;mjr_;of course 348351;1381514654;nubbins`;any sensible dealer would be paying for supply up-front 348352;1381514654;mjr_;i think 2 things about SR 348353;1381514657;nubbins`;not getting it on loan 348354;1381514658;mjr_;uh no 348355;1381514659;mircea_popescu;nubbins` heh. that's why they took a month to move a kg of coke ? 348356;1381514660;jcpham;my personal feeling is that you go off-chain your money is a row in a database 348357;1381514661;mjr_;yeah 348358;1381514665;mircea_popescu;nobody gave a shit. 348359;1381514669;jcpham;and we al know how safe site db's are 348360;1381514671;mjr_;let me get a kilo please, here is all the cash 348361;1381514682;mjr_;and you assume that consignment is not the main model 348362;1381514685;nubbins`;mircea_popescu: if i had to bet, i'd say it was WAY more weed than coke 348363;1381514687;mjr_;which it is 348364;1381514696;nubbins`;mjr_: in the real world, yes 348365;1381514697;mircea_popescu;of course. 348366;1381514703;mjr_;those were real world people 348367;1381514710;mjr_;who may not buy coke in colombia using bitcoins 348368;1381514716;mjr_;but rther have traditional channels 348369;1381514719;mjr_;and then resell on SR 348370;1381514729;jcpham;yes and they are now mostly dead 348371;1381514730;mjr_;traditional channel = i'll front you a brick 348372;1381514739;nubbins`;mjr_: i said any sensible dealer 348373;1381514745;mjr_;my point 348374;1381514746;nubbins`;getting a brick on loan is not sensible 348375;1381514749;nubbins`;whether it's common or not 348376;1381514750;mjr_;LOL 348377;1381514755;mjr_;it is totally sensible 348378;1381514759;mircea_popescu;look, srsly, the site was "very lucrative" in the sense of yeah, if you're some college age dork you can make A LOT OF $$$ omg/ 348379;1381514760;nubbins`;no it's not!! 348380;1381514762;mjr_;for the vast majority of people 348381;1381514764;nubbins`;because when you get busted 348382;1381514765;mircea_popescu;it wasn't lucrative in a business sense. 348383;1381514769;nubbins`;now you owe some guy a brick 348384;1381514775;nubbins`;and you can't pay him for it 348385;1381514777;mjr_;yeah, that is built in to what you pay 348386;1381514797;mjr_;and depends on how much your health is worth to you, and the chance you think you'll default 348387;1381514810;mjr_;like saying no sensible business risks using credit 348388;1381514815;mjr_;because it could hurt their credit 348389;1381514816;nubbins`;fair enough 348390;1381514831;mjr_;first off; main risk in drugs is moving them 348391;1381514831;nubbins`;i have an acquaintance who was caught with a large amount of cocaine a couple of years ago 348392;1381514842;mircea_popescu;let's split your dispute. people sane in the head take a brick on credit all the time, 348393;1381514845;mjr_;so, most dealers would rather give you 100 grams NOW, once a month 348394;1381514848;mircea_popescu;provided it's a small fraction of their trade. 348395;1381514850;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 55 @ 0.00923976 = 0.5082 BTC [+] {2} 348396;1381514852;mjr_;then meet you for 5 grams every other day 348397;1381514863;mircea_popescu;fucked in the head idiots that take a brick on credit which is the whole of their capital... 348398;1381514868;mjr_;^^ 348399;1381514871;mjr_;^^^^^ 348400;1381514872;mircea_popescu;well... those idiots don't survive and shouldn't have existed in the first place 348401;1381514873;mjr_;yes 348402;1381514874;nubbins`;mircea_popescu: that's like every coke dealer 348403;1381514887;mjr_;ok, i know many people who have been wiped out 348404;1381514887;mircea_popescu;nubbins` every coke dealer you know :) 348405;1381514889;mjr_;lost their stash 348406;1381514893;nubbins`;SHHHHH! 348407;1381514898;mjr_;got someone to front them 348408;1381514901;mjr_;built it back up again 348409;1381514922;mjr_;its more like a trade guild than the "colombian necktie/scarface" scenario 348410;1381514926;nubbins`;yeah 348411;1381514930;mircea_popescu;mjr_ this is not germane, in that it was THEIR stash to lose. 348412;1381514938;mjr_;ys 348413;1381514940;nubbins`;anyway, having large amounts of outstanding credit is not a great idea 348414;1381514945;mjr_;but lets say i have been working with you for a year 348415;1381514948;mjr_;you have made money 348416;1381514953;mjr_;and SR bust comes 348417;1381514955;mircea_popescu;nubbins` especially if you're a deadbeat, which is what it boils down to. 348418;1381514958;mjr_;do you think i just kill you? 348419;1381514964;mjr_;no, you are a client 348420;1381514967;nubbins`;no, you don't kill me 348421;1381514971;mircea_popescu;mjr_ depends. are you some white ass dorky kid that "has got to do it" ? 348422;1381514971;mjr_;and people uderstand and work out terms 348423;1381514971;nubbins`;you threaten to break my bones 348424;1381514976;mircea_popescu;then you might internet-kill me. 348425;1381514979;mjr_;LOL 348426;1381514987;nubbins`;"understanding", "working out terms", are a fiction for street-level trades 348427;1381514990;mjr_;you guys really have a hollywood perspective on drug dealing 348428;1381514995;nubbins`;and when i say street-level i mean 10kg and below 348429;1381514998;mjr_;ok...whatever you say 348430;1381515022;mjr_;lets say i know people who were "late" by a couple of months and resumed their arrangement after making good 348431;1381515029;mjr_;MANY times 348432;1381515036;mjr_;my old roommate was a pretty big coke dealer in NYC 348433;1381515042;nubbins`;i live a three-minute walk from a house where a guy was tied up and beaten to death with a chair leg by a coke dealer 348434;1381515056;mjr_;are you in nyc? 348435;1381515058;nubbins`;i guess people are nicer in NYC 348436;1381515061;mjr_;they are 348437;1381515067;mjr_;they are very business focused 348438;1381515071;nubbins`;must be great 348439;1381515074;mjr_;killing someone gives you $0 348440;1381515075;nubbins`;it's all skids here 348441;1381515083;nospinzy;um most people who sell drugs dont beat people 348442;1381515085;mjr_;and no future revenue either 348443;1381515087;nubbins`;killing someone makes everyone who owes you $1 pay up 348444;1381515091;mjr_;nope 348445;1381515093;nubbins`;granted, i don't think they intended to kill the guy 348446;1381515100;mjr_;thats like saying death penalty stops crime 348447;1381515107;nubbins`;it doesn't 348448;1381515109;mjr_;i don't do crimes thinking i will get caught and convicted 348449;1381515120;mjr_;so i don't borrow bricks expecting to default 348450;1381515133;mjr_;i borrow a brick so i can make $10k easily 348451;1381515135;nubbins`;that's the thing, nobody expects it 348452;1381515139;mjr_;what could ever go wrong? 348453;1381515143;nubbins`;which is why nobody is ready for it 348454;1381515143;mjr_;yes 348455;1381515152;mjr_;but the guy lending it to you is ready for it 348456;1381515156;mjr_;he manages his risk 348457;1381515159;mjr_;at least in nyc 348458;1381515164;mjr_;so that if he has to wait 348459;1381515167;nubbins`;which is why you exit the courthouse after entering your not guilty plea and immediately get a phone call from some guy looking for his $7000 348460;1381515168;mjr_;he can resume operations 348461;1381515173;mjr_;and regain revenue stream 348462;1381515181;nospinzy;umm i want to get in touch with a nignog that will lend me 100k 348463;1381515193;mjr_;it is relative 348464;1381515204;mjr_;if i have an operation where i do 10 million 348465;1381515207;mjr_;i lend 100k all the time 348466;1381515209;nubbins`;i think the difference between here and nyc is that in nyc it's all rich people doing coke 348467;1381515221;mjr_;$50 for .5g 348468;1381515222;nubbins`;and here it's all pill addicts doing AND selling coke 348469;1381515223;mjr_;i'd say so 348470;1381515241;mjr_;its like any business 348471;1381515242;nospinzy;coke sucks 348472;1381515248;mjr_;there is nothing special about coke business 348473;1381515252;nubbins`;never tried coke, never will 348474;1381515253;mjr_;same as anytingelse 348475;1381515256;nubbins`;i like things too much 348476;1381515265;nubbins`;it would be the end of me 348477;1381515269;mjr_;wholesalers offer credit to increase sales 348478;1381515278;mjr_;manage risk across multiple accounts 348479;1381515284;mjr_;write off some bad debg 348480;1381515284;nospinzy;it wouldnt be the end of you because it fucking sucks 348481;1381515299;mjr_;credit serves to expand an economy 348482;1381515300;nospinzy;the miniute you take it you feel like your dick is going to fall off 348483;1381515308;nospinzy;and you feel like you will have a heart attack 348484;1381515308;nubbins`;mjr_: so if i get a kg off some guy and say "sorry dude, i got busted", he's gonna swallow the cost? 348485;1381515309;mjr_;lol i don't know what you are doing 348486;1381515314;mjr_;no 348487;1381515315;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform according to wikipedia, russia is not YET a NIC (newly industrialised country) 348488;1381515332;mjr_;if you have been getting a kg a month for 12 months 348489;1381515335;mjr_;and you have a problem now 348490;1381515346;mjr_;he will say "ok, let's work it out and get you back on your feet" 348491;1381515349;nubbins`;oh, well 348492;1381515353;nubbins`;it's not like that everywhere 348493;1381515357;mjr_;remember, he has made money off you for 12 months 348494;1381515364;mjr_;and would rather continue making money off you 348495;1381515367;mjr_;than killing you 348496;1381515380;nospinzy;you should see all the new york niggers that run my town of 30k they run it for about a year and the police come down hard on these idiots 348497;1381515382;mjr_;killing you means never being repaid, and never getting any more revenue 348498;1381515383;nubbins`;if you try that here, he will say "ok, i've been breeding pit bulls for 3 years and i bit a guy's ear off in a bar fight last week, pay up" 348499;1381515385;nospinzy;they dont know how to get out the game 348500;1381515399;nubbins`;killing is rare 348501;1381515403;mjr_;i'm not saying people don't intimidate 348502;1381515406;nubbins`;getting your face rearranged, not so much 348503;1381515409;mjr_;they have no legal recourse 348504;1381515413;mjr_;but for the most part 348505;1381515415;mjr_;at least in nyc 348506;1381515419;mjr_;its a community thing 348507;1381515423;mjr_;washington heights 348508;1381515427;nubbins`;hahahahaha 348509;1381515428;mjr_;parts of brooklyn 348510;1381515433;mjr_;everyone knows everyone 348511;1381515438;mjr_;they are your neighbors 348512;1381515445;mjr_;its a trade off, offer credit 348513;1381515449;nubbins`;i'm only laughing because that all sounds so foreign 348514;1381515449;mjr_;more sales 348515;1381515449;nospinzy;why you let niggers intimidate you, carry a hand gun on your body and shoot the dogs 348516;1381515457;mjr_;LOL 348517;1381515461;nospinzy;no cop cares about some niggers pitbulls 348518;1381515463;mjr_;they would never think to get their own 348519;1381515466;mjr_;guns that is 348520;1381515476;mjr_;and they WILL get emotional about a dog 348521;1381515481;mjr_;not so much about business, i think 348522;1381515482;nospinzy;they call themselves gangsters HAHA 348523;1381515484;nospinzy;dont even have guns 348524;1381515493;mjr_;anyway, boring convo 348525;1381515500;nubbins`;anyway what it boils down to, mjr, is that the coke trade is a mature industry in nyc 348526;1381515502;mjr_;drug business is the same as all business 348527;1381515503;mircea_popescu;so then shoot the dog, take his girlfriend and burn his stash. 348528;1381515511;mjr_;yes nubbins` 348529;1381515513;nospinzy;i went with my friend to buy a 3k car in philly we brought a hand gun 348530;1381515513;mircea_popescu;tjhey'll call you gengis khan 348531;1381515514;mjr_;i agree 348532;1381515514;nubbins`;and here it's a bunch of wannabe players acting like they just walked off the set of a 50 cent movie 348533;1381515519;mjr_;oh totally 348534;1381515521;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8650 @ 0.00085618 = 7.406 BTC [+] {3} 348535;1381515524;mjr_;if you go to the inland empire in california 348536;1381515534;mjr_;it is way scarier than the jungle in LA 348537;1381515541;mjr_;because people in LA have SOME pride in themselves 348538;1381515548;nubbins`;http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/murder-trial-dates-set-for-pynn-butler-1.1353717 348539;1381515548;mjr_;people in the IE have nothing to live for 348540;1381515549;ozbot;Murder trial dates set for Pynn, Butler - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News 348541;1381515554;nubbins`;^^ newfie coke lords 348542;1381515569;mircea_popescu;you live in a dog ?! 348543;1381515573;mjr_;when you live in shitty places, and have no hope, you really don't care about violence or killing 348544;1381515589;nubbins`;mircea_popescu: two breeds of dog were developed on this island, the newfoundland dog and the labrador retriever 348545;1381515599;mjr_;but in new york, people are happy, so most people would be like "woah woah, why jump to violence" 348546;1381515603;nubbins`;one was bred from the other, i forget which 348547;1381515609;nospinzy;no one cares about black killing eachother, its we like to report it just to show everyone how stupid they act 348548;1381515624;nospinzy;i personaly would like to see the crime rate 10x worse 348549;1381515625;mjr_;new york has like triple digit murders per year 348550;1381515637;mircea_popescu;mjr_ dunno about that happy part man, i've seen what they call rental apts down there. 348551;1381515638;mjr_;ie. 999 people in a city of over 6 million 348552;1381515645;mjr_;well, not mad enough to kill yet 348553;1381515645;nubbins`;thats not bad for a city of millions 348554;1381515656;mjr_;it is like the safest city ever 348555;1381515657;nospinzy;its beause they frisk all the nignogs 348556;1381515660;mjr_;lol 348557;1381515663;mircea_popescu;lol. this town i'm in has had a murder last 4 years ago. it's ~400k pop. do the math. 348558;1381515667;nospinzy;its either a police gang or the street gangs 348559;1381515668;mjr_;they frisk whites and puerto ricans too 348560;1381515689;mjr_;its about how you act, who you associate with, and how you SPEAK more than anything else 348561;1381515704;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 122 @ 0.001199 = 0.1463 BTC [-] 348562;1381515705;nubbins`;http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/ear-biting-suspect-not-believable-crown-1.961453 348563;1381515705;ozbot;Ear-biting suspect not believable: Crown - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News 348564;1381515706;nospinzy;well i wouldnt change it, like i said police acting as the gang or nigs running around with guns scarring white people 348565;1381515707;mircea_popescu;what is this, dating ?! 348566;1381515709;mjr_;but seriuosly DRESS and SPEECH are about a million times more important than SKIN COLOR 348567;1381515723;mjr_;and people CAN change their dress and speech 348568;1381515734;mjr_;my friend is a VP at MetLife 348569;1381515736;mjr_;he is black 348570;1381515743;mjr_;guess how many times he has been stopped and frisked 348571;1381515747;nospinzy;0 348572;1381515749;mjr_;bingo 348573;1381515751;mircea_popescu;nubbins` is thatg phynn dude with the insane clown posse ? 348574;1381515752;nospinzy;;) 348575;1381515760;nubbins`;mircea_popescu: might as well be 348576;1381515764;mjr_;its like dave chappelle says 348577;1381515771;mjr_;but he talks about white people 348578;1381515773;nubbins`;mircea_popescu: notice how his teardrop tattoos are filled in 348579;1381515775;mjr_;i think its about white culture 348580;1381515780;mircea_popescu;yaya 348581;1381515784;nubbins`;apparently this means vengeance was served! 348582;1381515788;nubbins`;big thug! 348583;1381515793;mjr_;feeling comfortable walking up to a cop and saying, im a little high, and i just wanna get home 348584;1381515794;nubbins`;killed his buddy over sixty bucks! 348585;1381515811;mjr_;says, i am the one you protect, not the one you harrass 348586;1381515812;nospinzy;all you gotta do is dress in a suit and tie and i bet you could run drugs all day 348587;1381515816;mjr_;yeah 348588;1381515827;mjr_;most drug dealers on a personal level do not look like what you would think 348589;1381515835;nubbins`;agreed 348590;1381515836;mjr_;i've seen pretty girls, white hipsters on backpacks 348591;1381515839;mjr_;its rarely thugs 348592;1381515849;mjr_;they don't get their hand dirty with small transactions 348593;1381515855;nospinzy;they arnt dealing heroin 348594;1381515860;nospinzy;they are dealing pills and weed 348595;1381515860;mjr_;also they know they stick out 348596;1381515882;mjr_;well, all i can say is panama is great so far 348597;1381515886;nubbins`;lovely 348598;1381515888;nubbins`;always wanted to visit 348599;1381515891;mjr_;viva south america 348600;1381515895;nubbins`;closest i came was colombia 348601;1381515901;mjr_;even better ;) 348602;1381515906;nospinzy;why are you down there 348603;1381515910;nubbins`;nah, colombia is overrun with aussie tourists 348604;1381515911;nospinzy;trying to act like a big shot? 348605;1381515921;nubbins`;and petty crime 348606;1381515927;nubbins`;not sure which is worse 348607;1381515955;nospinzy;where are you in panama 348608;1381515963;mjr_;panama city 348609;1381515968;mjr_;but colombian girls are hot 348610;1381515979;nubbins`;agreed 348611;1381515980;mjr_;my sister is in cartagena (that had nothing to do with the prior statement) 348612;1381515985;nubbins`;heh 348613;1381515988;nubbins`;cartagena was nice 348614;1381515990;nubbins`;very expensive 348615;1381515993;nospinzy;why when people go on vacation they go to the largest cities 348616;1381515997;nospinzy;go somewhere remote 348617;1381516002;nubbins`;yeah 348618;1381516004;mjr_;san blas 348619;1381516006;nubbins`;i spent 2 days in cartagena 348620;1381516010;nospinzy;being around an infestation of people is not a vacation 348621;1381516011;nubbins`;then moved on 348622;1381516021;nubbins`;spent a lotta time in taganga, which was much nicer 348623;1381516032;nubbins`;medellin was not nice 348624;1381516038;nubbins`;manizales was great 348625;1381516042;nubbins`;bogota was so-so 348626;1381516055;nospinzy;you guys just travel by yourself? 348627;1381516062;nubbins`;myself and a friend 348628;1381516065;nubbins`;i usually travel alone 348629;1381516074;nubbins`;that was my first vacation with a travel partner 348630;1381516103;nubbins`;if you're comfortable being self-reliant, solo travel is 1000x better 348631;1381516130;mircea_popescu;nah, you always travel with a woman or two. 348632;1381516131;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 22 @ 0.00924 = 0.2033 BTC [+] 348633;1381516134;kakobrekla;traveling alone is best 348634;1381516139;mircea_popescu;no way. 348635;1381516142;kakobrekla;o yeah 348636;1381516144;kakobrekla;hands down. 348637;1381516150;nubbins`;mircea_popescu: travel with a woman and you preclude yourself from meeting nearly as many other women 348638;1381516156;mircea_popescu;how do you figure ? 348639;1381516159;nospinzy;travel with 2 other guys, thats the best way 348640;1381516163;nubbins`;i figure from experience 348641;1381516168;nospinzy;traveling with women is fucking anoying as shit 348642;1381516170;kakobrekla;alone or gtfo 348643;1381516172;mircea_popescu;you're not picking the right women to travel with. 348644;1381516174;nubbins`;solo travel, hands down 348645;1381516187;nubbins`;you can do whatever the fuck you want, you meet way more people 348646;1381516187;kakobrekla;yeah nubbins`, we can go solo together ! 348647;1381516189;kakobrekla;oh wait. 348648;1381516191;nubbins`;lel 348649;1381516194;kleeck;.d 348650;1381516194;ozbot;189281249.28103 | Next Diff in 1115 blocks | Estimated Change: 21.0205% in 6d 2h 40m 43s 348651;1381516209;nospinzy;i feel more comfortable if i have a wingman 348652;1381516211;mircea_popescu;nubbins` why can't you do the fuck you want with a woman in tow ? 348653;1381516225;mircea_popescu;nospinzy try a wingwoman sometime. 348654;1381516230;nospinzy;no 348655;1381516232;nubbins`;plus, when you travel solo, you take way more risks that you wouldn't necessarily otherwise 348656;1381516236;nospinzy;im not a bitch 348657;1381516236;nubbins`;and risks are fun 348658;1381516242;mircea_popescu;uh 348659;1381516245;mircea_popescu;none of this figures. 348660;1381516248;nospinzy;lol 348661;1381516248;Azelphur;what is this travel you speak of 348662;1381516259;nubbins`;i'd be dead if it weren't for the kindness of strangers 348663;1381516262;nubbins`;ten times over 348664;1381516265;nospinzy;im around alot of girls, and it all amounts to the same nonsense 348665;1381516273;nubbins`;if i had travelled with a friend, i wouldn't have been nearly so reckless 348666;1381516283;nubbins`;and so would have missed out on all those brushes with death 348667;1381516287;mircea_popescu;nospinzy you gotta have well trained girls not rifraf. 348668;1381516336;nubbins`;and what is life without risk? 348669;1381516340;nubbins`;boring, that's what 348670;1381516350;nospinzy;i dont know man, id rather travel with another guy and we can have in depth conversations about what we observe 348671;1381516354;nospinzy;with a women well..... 348672;1381516359;nospinzy;not much can get talked about 348673;1381516359;mjr_;traveling with women can be annoying 348674;1381516367;nubbins`;traveling with anyone can be annoying 348675;1381516367;mjr_;anyway 348676;1381516368;mircea_popescu;you can;'t be serious. 348677;1381516373;mjr_;i don't like beaches and stuff 348678;1381516379;nospinzy;ye aim totaly serious you fucking faggot 348679;1381516379;nubbins`;i wanted to cave my best friend's face in after travelling with him for two weeks 348680;1381516380;mjr_;what am i gonna do with some sand 348681;1381516383;mircea_popescu;not much can be talked about with women because why 348682;1381516387;kakobrekla;mjr_ exactly 348683;1381516394;nubbins`;mjr_: get it in your pussy? 348684;1381516394;nospinzy;if you think talking to a women is somehow more indepth then a male you have issues 348685;1381516407;nospinzy;or you might be someones gay best friend 348686;1381516409;mircea_popescu;i guess my issues are not being a faggot ? 348687;1381516409;mjr_;it can be nice to travel to places where you know women 348688;1381516414;kakobrekla;so you got blood and sand now nubbins`? 348689;1381516418;mjr_;but you can go off on your own 348690;1381516424;nubbins`;kakobrekla: it's a train wreck down there 348691;1381516431;kakobrekla;lol 348692;1381516436;nubbins`;but anyway, i guess many people might not share my views 348693;1381516444;mircea_popescu;whatg, on the internet ? 348694;1381516446;mjr_;i like traveling to big cities 348695;1381516446;mircea_popescu;impossible! 348696;1381516450;nubbins`;but there's nothing better than travelling to a country where you don't speak the language 348697;1381516454;kakobrekla;i like traveling to big tities 348698;1381516455;nubbins`;with your first night booked at a hostel 348699;1381516458;mircea_popescu;yeah. i do that too. 348700;1381516461;nubbins`;and all your possessions in a small backpack 348701;1381516461;mjr_;that is fun 348702;1381516466;mjr_;i totally agree 348703;1381516471;mjr_;adventure! 348704;1381516473;mjr_;huzzah! 348705;1381516474;mircea_popescu;nubbins` i don't book anything. i jsut land, go to the local university, find the english dept 348706;1381516477;nubbins`;it ruins it when people speak english 348707;1381516484;mircea_popescu;and hire some chick to show me around 348708;1381516494;nubbins`;colombia was great for this, nobody speaks a fuckin word of english 348709;1381516500;mircea_popescu;i speak spanish. 348710;1381516501;nubbins`;mircea_popescu: that's actually a really good idea 348711;1381516515;mircea_popescu;nubbins` it is. then i have her hire me an apt 348712;1381516515;nubbins`;i've got rudimentary spanish 348713;1381516518;mircea_popescu;that way i pay local rates. 348714;1381516526;nubbins`;mostly transferred from 6 years of mandatory french education 348715;1381516529;nubbins`;(go canada) 348716;1381516557;nubbins`;surprising how many similarities 348717;1381516558;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2126 @ 0.00084907 = 1.8051 BTC [-] 348718;1381516569;nubbins`;if i didn't know a word, i'd just say the french word with a spanish accent 348719;1381516572;nubbins`;worked more often than not 348720;1381516592;nubbins`;french also gives you access to a lot of africa 348721;1381516598;nubbins`;saved my ass in morocco 348722;1381516611;nubbins`;(which isn't REAL africa, but i digress) 348723;1381516741;assbot;[MPEX] [O] [O.USD.C131T] 685 @ 0.32277052 = 221.0978 BTC [-] 348724;1381516798;jurov;o 348725;1381516827;mircea_popescu;jeez i leave you people for two minutes... 348726;1381516831;mircea_popescu;;;ticker 348727;1381516832;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 140.34004, Best ask: 141.31213, Bid-ask spread: 0.97209, Last trade: 140.44227, 24 hour volume: 6905.00279714, 24 hour low: 138.87001, 24 hour high: 141.69000, 24 hour vwap: 140.61436 348728;1381516843;jurov;twas so good read... 348729;1381516849;mircea_popescu;;;calc 131 / .68 348730;1381516849;gribble;192.647058824 348731;1381516863;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4045 @ 0.00084719 = 3.4269 BTC [-] 348732;1381516941;nospinzy;are there lots of whores in panama 348733;1381516959;jurov;i dream of such travel sometimes and even tried a bit.. but then it comes to communication and that drives me crazy 348734;1381516985;jurov;litereally they asked me in a hostel on checkout why i did not talk much so anyone 348735;1381516986;mircea_popescu;jurov just nod a lot. 348736;1381516997;nospinzy;thats why u need your google glass with transaltion 348737;1381517018;jurov;cuz i'm almost deaf and small talk is hardest work, fuck that 348738;1381517021;mjr_;the key is to speak spanish, but also be able to look like you don't speak spanish 348739;1381517042;mjr_;like Blade, all the strengths, none of the weaknesses 348740;1381517058;nubbins`;heh 348741;1381517059;jurov;i'm not interested to be a clown 348742;1381517069;nubbins`;my last name is pronounced the same way as the word for marijuana in morocco 348743;1381517081;nospinzy;0_0 348744;1381517095;nubbins`;so when i checked in at EVERY hostel 348745;1381517104;nubbins`;there'd always be jokes about calling the cops 348746;1381517105;nubbins`;;( 348747;1381517122;mircea_popescu;this reminds me 348748;1381517126;nospinzy;do people treat you with respect if you say you are an americna 348749;1381517128;nospinzy;abroad 348750;1381517130;nubbins`;followed by darting eyes and a mumbled "hashish?" 348751;1381517134;nubbins`;nospinzy: no idea, i'm canadian 348752;1381517137;mircea_popescu;i used to know this dorky kid, his idea of travel was he'd go to some town, and check in every hostel 348753;1381517139;mircea_popescu;for a day or two 348754;1381517143;mircea_popescu;see if there was any desperate tail 348755;1381517146;mircea_popescu;then move on to next hostel 348756;1381517148;nospinzy;nubbin you can pretend you are american 348757;1381517149;nubbins`;heh 348758;1381517154;mircea_popescu;he'd be doing this all day long 348759;1381517159;nubbins`;nospinzy: why the fuck would i pretend i'm an american? 348760;1381517167;nubbins`;i'd sooner pretend to have down's 348761;1381517167;mircea_popescu;didn't you like risks ? 348762;1381517179;nubbins`;that's not a risk 348763;1381517183;nubbins`;that's debasing yourself 348764;1381517188;mircea_popescu;"that's not a risk, it's a fucking liability" 348765;1381517194;nospinzy;nubbin keep up that attitude and we will drone strike your country 348766;1381517199;nubbins`;although TBH most of the americans i met while travelling were a-ok 348767;1381517206;nubbins`;it's the aussies and israelis that are the worst 348768;1381517212;nubbins`;loud, brash, stupid 348769;1381517234;nospinzy;whenever i see ausies they are punk faggots kids 348770;1381517264;nospinzy;and why the hell do they complain about asians so much 348771;1381517269;nospinzy;they have no idea 348772;1381517297;mod6;omg now they want to integrate xrp with urbit lol 348773;1381517320;mircea_popescu;mod6 that's such a splendid idea :D 348774;1381517331;mircea_popescu;i hope thety do it on a ven platform 348775;1381517422;mod6;heheh - here's some convo: http://pastebin.com/ 348776;1381517423;mod6;bah 348777;1381517431;mod6;http://pastebin.com/G4t53Mz3 348778;1381517432;ozbot;(11:41) < mod6> i started my new blockchain pull at the same time as trying to u - Pastebin.com 348779;1381517502;mircea_popescu;lol 348780;1381517521;mircea_popescu;wait, is memnion actually the chief retard of the entire project ? 348781;1381517639;ThickAsThieves;does the forum care about swearing? 348782;1381518083;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 8 @ 0.091 = 0.728 BTC [-] 348783;1381518171;mod6;now they're all on about colored coins.. lol. pointed them to the log from yesterday & the trilema article. 348784;1381518192;mod6;mircea_popescu: im not sure who he is acutually, but he seems to be knowledgeable. 348785;1381518316;jurov;http://www.internetgovernance.org/2013/10/11/the-core-internet-institutions-abandon-the-us-government/ srsly? 348786;1381518316;ozbot;The core Internet institutions abandon the US Government | IGP Blog 348787;1381518468;ThickAsThieves;well it's not fair that only the US should have their fingers in the web 348788;1381518483;ThickAsThieves;now all the countries wanns wet their tips 348789;1381518487;ThickAsThieves;wanna 348790;1381518608;jurov;i mean, what's exactly the difference? 348791;1381518651;ThickAsThieves;i honestly dont know 348792;1381518667;ThickAsThieves;maybe they are just waking up to realize there is none 348793;1381518746;jurov;i see only political maneuvering... if they proposed to implement namecoin for root dns 348794;1381518759;jurov;or replace bgp with some decetralized routing 348795;1381518767;jurov;that would be something 348796;1381518827;Duffer1;!seen dexX7 348797;1381518874;mircea_popescu;mod6 it's fascinating hopw people default to the wrong decisions 348798;1381518875;jurov;to be precise, bgp is kinda decentralized but IP addy allocation is not 348799;1381518911;mircea_popescu;jurov there's some tension, but that's an overstatement really. 348800;1381518946;mod6;mircea_popescu: yeah. some ideas just sound great and seem like amazing harmless solutions. but yah, stuff doesn't work that way. 348801;1381518946;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 348802;1381518950;mod6;bingo 348803;1381518961;mircea_popescu;it's not just in computing, either. 348804;1381518986;mircea_popescu;college kid wants a roadster. the sort of car for him is not a roadster, he's about to get married and have kids. 348805;1381518994;mircea_popescu;etc etc, endless and everywhere, the wrong thing always appeals. 348806;1381518998;ThickAsThieves;it's due to shallow thought, most people don't attempt to think more than a layer or two deep on things 348807;1381519028;ThickAsThieves;it's sorta like looking down the barrel of a gun and pulling the trigger to see why it isnt working 348808;1381519029;KRS1;like the fat kid who love cake 348809;1381519034;mircea_popescu;or in the immortal words of the devil himself, "He gives man instincts. He gives you this extraordinary gift, and then what does He do, I swear for His own amusement, his own private, cosmic gag reel, He sets the rules in opposition. It's the goof of all time. Look but don't touch. Touch, but don't taste. Taste, don't swallow. Ahaha. And while you're jumpin' from one foot to the next, what is he doing? He's laughin' Hi 348810;1381519034;mircea_popescu;s sick, fuckin' ass off!" 348811;1381519059;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2179 @ 0.00084719 = 1.846 BTC [-] 348812;1381519065;ThickAsThieves;devli's advocate? 348813;1381519069;mircea_popescu;yea 348814;1381519072;ThickAsThieves;great movie 348815;1381519075;mircea_popescu;yeah. 348816;1381519137;ThickAsThieves;i only remember the text because it causes images and sounds in my head from pacino's performance 348817;1381519152;mircea_popescu;possibly the highlight of his very highlighted career. 348818;1381519189;mod6;yeah, good flick 348819;1381519242;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 42 @ 0.00941999 = 0.3956 BTC [+] 348820;1381519474;ThickAsThieves;"How your Profile name and photo may appear (including in reviews and advertising)" 348821;1381519480;ThickAsThieves;google... 348822;1381519535;ThickAsThieves;for people who wanna shut it off, just visit https://plus.google.com/settings/endorsements?hl=en 348823;1381519547;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 0.0899 = 0.2697 BTC [+] 348824;1381519584;mircea_popescu;lmao 348825;1381519852;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 400 @ 0.0012 = 0.48 BTC [+] 348826;1381520115;mircea_popescu;.d 348827;1381520115;ozbot;189281249.28103 | Next Diff in 1109 blocks | Estimated Change: 20.7013% in 6d 2h 32m 47s 348828;1381520592;ThickAsThieves;http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/11/4828352/politifact-launching-punditfact-fact-check-radio-tv-blog-print-personalities 348829;1381520592;ozbot;PolitiFact launching new site to call out lies of political pundits | The Verge 348830;1381520619;mircea_popescu;o hey 348831;1381521446;ThickAsThieves;fucking motherfucking fuck 348832;1381521461;ThickAsThieves;visa cancelled my card because i used it while travelling 348833;1381521463;ThickAsThieves;a business card 348834;1381521476;ThickAsThieves;so now i'll have umpteen vendors saying wtf 348835;1381521478;gecko_x2;look u stupid fucking cunt 348836;1381521490;gecko_x2;this is the end of a regime 348837;1381521503;gecko_x2;this regime will fuck you whatever it takes 348838;1381521512;ThickAsThieves;you talking to me? 348839;1381521514;gecko_x2;complaining about your fucking visa card 348840;1381521518;ThickAsThieves;gtfo 348841;1381521524;jurov;lol gecko hath spoken 348842;1381521540;gecko_x2;is the same as complaining to your torturer that keeps u in his basement about the quality of his food 348843;1381521550;ThickAsThieves;youre a fucking idiot 348844;1381521555;gecko_x2;when will you stupid mother fucking cunts wake the fuck up? 348845;1381521563;ThickAsThieves;ignored 348846;1381521573;gecko_x2;My VISA CARD ISN'T WORJING UUUH HUUH 348847;1381521585;gecko_x2;I WANt MY MOTHER UUH UUHHUH 348848;1381521601;jurov;gecko_x2 mind your pills 348849;1381521605;gecko_x2;jesus fucking christ 348850;1381521616;gecko_x2;you just don't get it do you? 348851;1381521618;gecko_x2;ThickAsThieves 348852;1381521624;gecko_x2;THE FASCISTS ARE REAL 348853;1381521632;gecko_x2;THEY ARE REALLY COMING 348854;1381521640;gecko_x2;YES THIS IS REAL 348855;1381521652;gecko_x2;DO YOU GET IT? 348856;1381521739;gecko_x2;whatever 348857;1381521753;gecko_x2;ppl just do not understand 348858;1381521772;gecko_x2;they say yes i kow the government will fuck me 348859;1381521783;gecko_x2;but at the same time they do nothing to prevent it 348860;1381521788;gecko_x2;because they WANT IT 348861;1381521809;gecko_x2;YOU WANT TO BE FUCKED IN THE ASS BY YOUR GOVERNMENT' 348862;1381521819;gecko_x2;THAT IS THE REASON YOU COMPLAIN 348863;1381521832;gecko_x2;IF YOU WOULD NOT WANT IT 348864;1381521842;gecko_x2;YOU WOULD NOT BE COMPLAINING ON IRC 348865;1381521850;gecko_x2;YOU WOULD BE AT WAR 348866;1381521860;gecko_x2;LOOK AT YOUR FUCKING HISTORY 348867;1381521866;gecko_x2;YES THIS IS REAL 348868;1381521871;gecko_x2;YES THEY ARE COMING 348869;1381521879;gecko_x2;AND YES THEY WILL KILL YOU 348870;1381521886;gecko_x2;'AND YOUR FAMILY TOO 348871;1381521888;gecko_x2;IT 348872;1381521889;gecko_x2;IS 348873;1381521891;gecko_x2;REAL 348874;1381521906;jurov;kakobrekla you around? ^^^ 348875;1381521910;jcpham;i bet if you used allcaps i could read it better 348876;1381521951;kakobrekla;what 348877;1381521970;jcpham;jurov kakobrekla doesn't kick people for allcaps ragin 348878;1381521983;jurov;WHY NOT 348879;1381521985;ThickAsThieves;he's still going? 348880;1381521988;ThickAsThieves;awesome 348881;1381521995;jurov;no, stopped or paused 348882;1381521996;jcpham;I DUNNO JUROV 348883;1381522005;ThickAsThieves;KICK ALL THE PEEPL! 348884;1381522011;gecko_x2;jcpham do i know you*? 348885;1381522024;jcpham;YES GECKO YOU KNOW ME 348886;1381522025;gecko_x2;do you have anything to explain to me? 348887;1381522029;jcpham;I WAS INSIDE YOU ONCE 348888;1381522036;jcpham;YOU SWALLOWED 348889;1381522038;gecko_x2;here we go 348890;1381522039;mircea_popescu;when the fuck did this turn into -otc. 348891;1381522052;Duffer1;<-- still confused :P 348892;1381522055;gecko_x2;with the sexual assault, just like the zionist have programmed you 348893;1381522070;gecko_x2;wery not well played sir 348894;1381522115;gecko_x2;when you feel fear, attack everyone with sexual trigger words 348895;1381522125;assbot;Last 100 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1413596/plain/) 348896;1381522125;kakobrekla;!b 100 348897;1381522129;kakobrekla;ill read later 348898;1381522152;ThickAsThieves;"That you or that half-wit Mirca have the gall to post about honesty here is quite the joke. You publicly post scam accusations for sport just to harm your competition. Competition I might add, that summarily spanked you in all things that matter right up until the end." 348899;1381522156;ThickAsThieves;love, burnside 348900;1381522201;ThickAsThieves;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=125629.msg3228015#msg3228015 348901;1381522203;ozbot;[BTC-TC] Virtual Community Exchange [WINDING DOWN] 348902;1381522216;ThickAsThieves;funny how he defined 'the end' 348903;1381522229;ThickAsThieves;being that mpex is not over 348904;1381522412;mircea_popescu;ya well... the tuna i had for breakfast also spanked me sumariliy in all things that matter. 348905;1381522421;mircea_popescu;swimming, making good tuna steak, etc. 348906;1381523086;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2608 @ 0.00085728 = 2.2358 BTC [+] 348907;1381523132;mircea_popescu;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=308924.msg3316281#msg3316281 348908;1381523133;ozbot;Why is Operation Fabulous not working? 348909;1381523142;mircea_popescu;lmao 348910;1381523199;jcpham;still digging up troll gold on the forums i see 348911;1381523262;mircea_popescu;that's ditz glitz. 348912;1381523269;mircea_popescu;i mean, 348913;1381523272;mircea_popescu;dat's ditz glitz. 348914;1381523282;MTBmanTT;Hello everyone, new to the scene, here to watch n learn :) 348915;1381523288;mircea_popescu;hello MTBmanTT. 348916;1381523345;MTBmanTT;hi 348917;1381523424;ThickAsThieves;hi 348918;1381523431;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves anyway, in case that was before your time, "[17:05:52] shareholder3_ midterm this will win against MPEX and others as they will get shut down soon too" 348919;1381523445;mircea_popescu;[17:06:13] shareholder1 I already reported MPEX for child porn 348920;1381523445;mircea_popescu;etc. 348921;1381523454;ThickAsThieves;lol 348922;1381523466;ThickAsThieves;s.cp was a thing? 348923;1381523470;mircea_popescu;[17:56:20] da2ce796 as in, mpex will stop being our compittion. 348924;1381523471;mircea_popescu;[17:56:26] shareholder1 mpex will be classified as money launderers and terrorists 348925;1381523493;kakobrekla;well, he didnt say WHEN 348926;1381523495;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves the internet kidz have issues in that they imagine the world is congruent with their perception of the world. 348927;1381523507;ThickAsThieves;reality is what you make it! 348928;1381523519;mircea_popescu;thus therefore the value of bitcoin comes from there being bitcoin atms and the worst thing that can happen is someone "reporting you for child porn" 348929;1381523545;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla this is true. 348930;1381523567;ThickAsThieves;i like how they say "our" too 348931;1381523568;mircea_popescu;[17:56:26] shareholder2 really? satoshidice and bitvps look pretty legit to me 348932;1381523569;mircea_popescu;[17:56:30] shareholder2 bitvps even hosts GLBSE 348933;1381523573;ThickAsThieves;as if they had a stake 348934;1381523578;mircea_popescu;that thing is the total lolz. 348935;1381523597;mircea_popescu;[17:56:39] shareholder3_ agree with da2ce7, its a different, larger market the new GLBSE would operate in 348936;1381523606;mircea_popescu;aw fduck it, just read the transcript. http://trilema.com/2012/the-stockexchange-shareholders-on-welfare/ 348937;1381523610;ThickAsThieves;hehe 348938;1381523612;mircea_popescu;ima be here picking comedy gold all night 348939;1381523645;ThickAsThieves;is this the one where nefario is on trial for closing? 348940;1381523650;ThickAsThieves;i read most of it once 348941;1381523671;MTBmanTT;reading that link should bring me up to speed here? 348942;1381523684;mircea_popescu;in unrelated news, i taught this girl to cook. she loves the power this gives her, so she tries to cook everything now. so for instance can't find halva ? "maybe i'll try cooking some!" 348943;1381523699;mircea_popescu;im like ya totally, first we build an oil press in the garage... 348944;1381523740;mircea_popescu;MTBmanTT you have about siox month's worth of reading to get up to speed. 348945;1381523755;ThickAsThieves;but there is a lot on trilema worth reading 348946;1381523755;MTBmanTT;...great 348947;1381523756;mircea_popescu;that link is only relevant in the context of a previous discussion we were having, re some other blown exchange. 348948;1381523760;ThickAsThieves;under the mpex and bitcoin tags 348949;1381523764;ThickAsThieves;some other tags too 348950;1381523765;mircea_popescu;but you may want to start by reading the chan log 348951;1381523768;MTBmanTT;kk 348952;1381523780;MTBmanTT;ty, ill start with that link 348953;1381523793;ThickAsThieves;youll end up needing to pay for a cookie 348954;1381523951;MTBmanTT;like browser cookie, or go down the street n buy a snack while im reading a while? 348955;1381523989;mircea_popescu;lol 348956;1381524000;mircea_popescu;trilema lets you read like 5 articles a week or some shit. i forget exactly. 348957;1381524073;MTBmanTT;who is this guy/ site "trilema" Ive come across it once before when reading an article on "solarwind" 348958;1381524080;mircea_popescu;;;later tell bingoboingo jborkl_ by the way, someone should make a complete history of labcoin. like a post-mortem. all those juicy quotes in the forum and whatnot... splendid story for the future generations. 348959;1381524080;gribble;The operation succeeded. 348960;1381524088;MTBmanTT;i appreciate the help btw :) 348961;1381524088;kakobrekla;lmao 348962;1381524089;mircea_popescu;MTBmanTT some asshole. 348963;1381524160;MTBmanTT;ah, no shortage of them! 348964;1381524170;kakobrekla;lmao#2 348965;1381524189;assbot;Last 15 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1413628/plain/) 348966;1381524189;kakobrekla;!b 15 348967;1381524189;kakobrekla;ty 348968;1381524200;kakobrekla;keep it going 348969;1381524205;kakobrekla;i need more stuffs 348970;1381524297;jcpham;this trilema dude needs his head examined 348971;1381524331;jcpham;maybe even elctro-shock therapy 348972;1381524333;kakobrekla;i heard his own court found him guilty 348973;1381524344;jcpham;no way! 348974;1381524347;kakobrekla;so no doubts 348975;1381524359;mircea_popescu;simple minded psychotic dood. 348976;1381524378;jcpham;what the hell is a trilema anyways 348977;1381524383;jcpham;is that when you have three choices 348978;1381524395;mircea_popescu;it's when you have three choices but just one m. 348979;1381524411;jcpham;that's terrible luck 348980;1381524489;kakobrekla;is there such thing as nilema? 348981;1381524516;mircea_popescu;no, because niggers don;'t have options. 348982;1381524531;ThickAsThieves;99 problems and a trilema aint one 348983;1381524562;kakobrekla;i didnt have teh niggers in mind really 348984;1381524563;jcpham;better than a quadlema 348985;1381524589;mircea_popescu;here's a trilemma for y'all : either monucleosis or bisexuality. 348986;1381524708;kakobrekla;that depends 348987;1381524712;kakobrekla;if bisexuality is permanent 348988;1381524739;mircea_popescu;speaking of bitcoin finance, anyone here saw cannibal holocaust ? 348989;1381524750;kakobrekla;some parts 348990;1381524755;kakobrekla;:) 348991;1381524759;mircea_popescu;kik 348992;1381524768;MTBmanTT;long ago 348993;1381524770;mircea_popescu;it 348994;1381524785;mircea_popescu;'s like nature channel with some bits of spice channel spliced in. 348995;1381524796;kakobrekla;lol 348996;1381525450;MTBmanTT;would it be ok, if I were to ask some stupid n00b questions? 348997;1381525502;CopperWireBeard;you mean another one? i kid i kid 348998;1381525518;MTBmanTT;lol true that 348999;1381525607;MTBmanTT;is there a site, or link somewhere I can go to,and read up on how a newbie like me doesnt get taken to the cleaners? Some of these scam "companies" are convincing at times- wondering if somene made a post about it 349000;1381525649;mircea_popescu;;;google bitcoin drama timeline 349001;1381525650;gribble;The Bitcoin Drama Timeline pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; BitCoin Drama Continues After Hours | Zero Hedge: ; Bitcoin bubble burst? Currency suffers dramatic correction | Internet ...: a massive fork if i don't pork, i don't come. 349426;1381594394;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.37010006 BTC [-] 349427;1381596102;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 547 @ 0.00201002 = 1.0995 BTC [-] {5} 349428;1381596306;ThickAsThieves;"I'm just wondering what's going to happen to my 230 shares of DMS.MINING. Mostly because I used a loan to get them and I really should sell off some shares." 349429;1381596327;ThickAsThieves;dat PMB 349430;1381596367;Kleeck;holy shit 349431;1381596374;Kleeck;that is the dumbest thing I've read all week. 349432;1381596412;kakobrekla;and its saturday 349433;1381596834;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.8802 BTC [+] 349434;1381597444;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.008513 = 0.8513 BTC [-] {4} 349435;1381597445;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 50 @ 0.88000999 = 44.0005 BTC [-] {3} 349436;1381597505;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 15 @ 0.0085 = 0.1275 BTC [-] 349437;1381598115;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2592 @ 0.00084614 = 2.1932 BTC [-] 349438;1381599093;thestringpuller;ThickAsThieves ThickAsThieves ThickAsThieves 349439;1381599096;thestringpuller;TATU 349440;1381599097;thestringpuller;lol 349441;1381599105;thestringpuller;ThickAsThievesUniversity 349442;1381599124;thestringpuller;where they teach you PMB's are best sold and not bought 349443;1381599162;mircea_popescu;http://videonudestars.com/images/stories/foto-t-en/tatu-2/tatu-10.jpg 349444;1381599413;thestringpuller;those girls barely made it through puberty 349445;1381599508;mircea_popescu;they were 14ish when they met. 349446;1381599613;mircea_popescu;big deal russian girl band. first group to get eu platinum in two languages. 349447;1381599613;KRS-;Mmm 349448;1381599648;mircea_popescu;---+++-- 349449;1381599708;[\];so what is a pmb 349450;1381599739;mircea_popescu;;;google the problem with pmbs 349451;1381599739;gribble;The problem with PMBs, ie “Perpetual Mining Bonds” pe Trilema ...: ; PuraMed BioScience, Inc. (PMBS) Stock Message Board ...: ; PMBS Stock Quote - PuraMed BioScience Inc. Stock Price Today ...: (1 more message) 349452;1381599760;[\];oh right 349453;1381599766;KRS-;of course 349454;1381600311;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.88 = 1.76 BTC [-] 349455;1381600974;KRS-;thanks..got my fix for complimentary trilema articles. 349456;1381601958;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5702 @ 0.00084814 = 4.8361 BTC [+] {2} 349457;1381602548;mircea_popescu;yw lol 349458;1381602751;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00084848 = 3.903 BTC [+] {2} 349459;1381603940;thestringpuller;;;calc 24/25 349460;1381603940;gribble;0.96 349461;1381603946;thestringpuller;;;calc 22/25 349462;1381603946;gribble;0.88 349463;1381603949;thestringpuller;;;calc 23/25 349464;1381603949;gribble;0.92 349465;1381605130;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.86 BTC [-] 349466;1381605496;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 115 @ 0.00820043 = 0.943 BTC [-] {3} 349467;1381605862;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 73 @ 0.00810011 = 0.5913 BTC [-] {3} 349468;1381607265;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 21 @ 0.08 = 1.68 BTC [-] 349469;1381607326;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 0.08 = 0.32 BTC [-] 349470;1381607387;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.8995 BTC [+] 349471;1381607448;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.8999 BTC [+] 349472;1381607606;BITESAK;http://freepatriot.org/2013/10/10/bombshell-cia-agent-claims-obama-killed-breitbart-clancy/?fb_source=pubv1 349473;1381607609;ozbot;[BOMBSHELL] Ex-CIA Agent Claims Obama Killed Breitbart and Clancy - The Free Patriot 349474;1381607616;BITESAK;Lastly, he revealed that Obama’s administration was made up of Marxist Muslims who all take their orders from Senior Adviser to the President, Iranian-born Valerie Jarrett. Dr. Garrow said that it is well known to intelligence agencies all over the world that Obama is a foreign plant who was placed on the path to the presidency by ultra-rich Saudi nationals This is why, Garrow said, that all of Obama’s education records 349475;1381607867;Diablo-D3;lol 349476;1381607872;Diablo-D3;no one killed breitbart 349477;1381607881;Diablo-D3;the guy was just a mouth for fox news 349478;1381608058;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.9 = 1.8 BTC [+] 349479;1381608064;mircea_popescu;is valerie a reptillian ? 349480;1381608075;dexX7;did anyone here receive a pm from hashfast within the last 4 hours? 349481;1381608092;Diablo-D3;mircea_popescu: unlikely, the reptilians do not use personas 349482;1381608158;thestringpuller;where all my reptile peeple @? 349483;1381608192;mircea_popescu;chick was born in iran, too. 349484;1381608241;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.9 BTC [+] 349485;1381608334;jurov;https://scontent-b-vie.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/1379943_10151870062452226_1458885505_n.png mircea_popescu where are you? 349486;1381608351;jurov;or you consider whole pic fatally flawed? 349487;1381608364;mircea_popescu;im on the bottom 349488;1381608396;mircea_popescu;that aside, i can live fine with people up to about "modern conservatism" 349489;1381608400;mircea_popescu;w/e that is. 349490;1381608443;thestringpuller;i think government should provide all goods for everyone 349491;1381608445;thestringpuller;and everyone should be fat 349492;1381608449;thestringpuller;and we should all have robots 349493;1381608469;mircea_popescu;and penises. 349494;1381608492;thestringpuller;vagina's should be provided by the government too 349495;1381608499;thestringpuller;a vagina in every home! 349496;1381608509;thestringpuller;a vagina with legs* 349497;1381608522;mircea_popescu;wait. tom clancy, the guy with all the bad novels ? 349498;1381608574;mircea_popescu;"Dr. Garrow states President Obama had Tom Clancy killed as well and noted that it takes 5 days for plant toxins and most poisons to break down and leave no traces in the human body. Amazingly enough, or coincidentally, the doctors did not perform an autopsy on Tom Clancys body for 5 days." 349499;1381608576;mircea_popescu;gtfo. 349500;1381608749;Diablo-D3;lol 349501;1381608851;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 52 @ 0.00825 = 0.429 BTC [+] 349502;1381609156;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 41 @ 0.4 = 16.4 BTC [+] {3} 349503;1381609400;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 38 @ 0.0081 = 0.3078 BTC [-] 349504;1381609977;benkay;i'm particularly enamored of the conspiracy theories around brittany murphy's death 349505;1381609996;benkay;and her husband's subsequent demise in the same "mysteeeeerious" manner 349506;1381610376;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00084762 = 2.9667 BTC [-] 349507;1381610376;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.89 BTC [-] 349508;1381610627;thestringpuller;bromeo and juliet 349509;1381610629;thestringpuller;out july 1st 349510;1381611036;KRS-;Gubment issued vagainas would solve a lot of problems..but can't speak for the quality of them, I mean look at gubment cheese. 349511;1381611047;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.89 = 2.67 BTC [-] 349512;1381611108;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.00084966 = 3.4411 BTC [+] {2} 349513;1381611352;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1200 @ 0.00084762 = 1.0171 BTC [-] 349514;1381611544;dexX7;labcoin: This week dividends deposit on btct.co has been "confiscated" by Burnside, thus we were unable to push it to shareholders. 349515;1381612511;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00085071 = 5.1043 BTC [+] 349516;1381612572;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.470099 BTC [+] 349517;1381613060;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4190099 = 1.257 BTC [-] 349518;1381613975;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4828 @ 0.0008511 = 4.1091 BTC [+] {2} 349519;1381614707;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7364 @ 0.00085121 = 6.2683 BTC [+] {2} 349520;1381614720;ohhithere;#bitcoin-OTC 349521;1381614768;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SMG] 1099 @ 0.0001871 = 0.2056 BTC [-] 349522;1381615195;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 278 @ 0.00804121 = 2.2355 BTC [-] {13} 349523;1381615264;ohhithere;gonna ban me from here too? do it. 349524;1381615403;kakobrekla;have you been a naughty boy? 349525;1381616598;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 436 @ 0.00085122 = 0.3711 BTC [+] 349526;1381617452;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7527 @ 0.0008512 = 6.407 BTC [-] {3} 349527;1381617574;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 286 @ 0.0004 = 0.1144 BTC [+] 349528;1381617635;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.8552402 = 8.5524 BTC [-] {4} 349529;1381621845;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.45 = 2.7 BTC [+] 349530;1381623247;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3478 @ 0.00084582 = 2.9418 BTC [-] {2} 349531;1381624284;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.45 = 2.7 BTC [+] 349532;1381625260;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.821 = 1.642 BTC [-] 349533;1381625565;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15581 @ 0.00084452 = 13.1585 BTC [-] {3} 349534;1381625687;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.007826 = 0.1565 BTC [-] {4} 349535;1381625931;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.8151001 = 1.6302 BTC [-] 349536;1381626175;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.821 BTC [+] 349537;1381626724;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00084278 = 5.0567 BTC [-] {2} 349538;1381627456;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 64 @ 0.00776883 = 0.4972 BTC [-] {3} 349539;1381630567;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1400 @ 0.00084557 = 1.1838 BTC [+] {2} 349540;1381631482;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 25 @ 0.80060237 = 20.0151 BTC [-] {6} 349541;1381632153;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 24 @ 0.00747917 = 0.1795 BTC [-] {3} 349542;1381632946;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 36 @ 0.79251675 = 28.5306 BTC [-] {4} 349543;1381633007;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.75808571 = 5.3066 BTC [-] {2} 349544;1381633129;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 264 @ 0.00701558 = 1.8521 BTC [-] {7} 349545;1381633556;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 419 @ 0.00200297 = 0.8392 BTC [-] {5} 349546;1381633678;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.0008463 = 4.9932 BTC [+] 349547;1381633678;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.42898001 BTC [-] 349548;1381634641;taub_;argh 349549;1381634642;taub_;im short 349550;1381634653;taub_;bitstamp looksl ike its gonna fucking explode soon 349551;1381634661;taub_;anyawy gonna let my stoploss decide this :/ 349552;1381634665;taub_;seriously fuck i suck 349553;1381634678;taub_;buy and hold so hard to beat ... 349554;1381634898;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 3190 @ 0.00032971 = 1.0518 BTC [-] {4} 349555;1381634952;pankkake;lel 349556;1381635025;taub_;yea it's liek a dummy trade, usualyl when there's explosive movement downards and then correction, there is a second slower move that goes the same way 349557;1381635041;taub_;guess not this time 349558;1381635203;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 55 @ 0.00219 = 0.1205 BTC [+] 349559;1381635241;zoinky;the powers that be want to make it look stable 349560;1381635309;taub_;ya think? 349561;1381635996;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.825 BTC [+] 349562;1381638924;pankkake;;;bc,stats 349563;1381638926;gribble;Current Blocks: 263279 | Current Difficulty: 1.8928124928103292E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 264095 | Next Difficulty In: 816 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 17 hours, 1 minute, and 5 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 239874929.686 | Estimated Percent Change: 26.72937 349564;1381639900;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00084659 = 3.5557 BTC [+] {2} 349565;1381640266;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.8 BTC [-] 349566;1381643682;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00084726 = 3.5585 BTC [+] {3} 349567;1381644719;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.0075 = 0.225 BTC [-] 349568;1381644963;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.87479999 = 2.6244 BTC [+] {2} 349569;1381646549;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 44 @ 0.00769999 = 0.3388 BTC [+] 349570;1381647403;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 15 @ 0.75466827 = 11.32 BTC [-] {7} 349571;1381647404;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 75 @ 0.0073 = 0.5475 BTC [-] {2} 349572;1381648989;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 44 @ 0.00799898 = 0.352 BTC [+] 349573;1381649050;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1882 @ 0.00084329 = 1.5871 BTC [-] 349574;1381649050;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 29 @ 0.00799898 = 0.232 BTC [+] 349575;1381651185;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00244 = 0.122 BTC [+] 349576;1381652832;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.75310063 = 7.531 BTC [-] {6} 349577;1381658106;mircea_popescu;;;diff 349578;1381658107;gribble;1.8928124928103292E8 349579;1381658190;mircea_popescu;;;copumpkinprice 349580;1381658191;gribble;300 USD/BTC 349581;1381658380;pankkake;;;help copumpkinprice 349582;1381658380;gribble;(copumpkinprice ) -- Alias for "echo 300 USD/BTC". 349583;1381658566;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4288 @ 0.00084786 = 3.6356 BTC [+] {2} 349584;1381658729;mircea_popescu;:p 349585;1381658752;dub;;;ticker --markets all 349586;1381658752;gribble;(ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market |all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Mtgox. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure the code is a (1 more message) 349587;1381658759;dub;;;ticker --market all 349588;1381658765;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD last: 143.10001, vol: 9767.85508379 | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 127.97, vol: 7122.28147717 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 125.2, vol: 2854.25371 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 127.89, vol: 459.06856747 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 127.25, vol: 261.41486243 | Volume-weighted last average: 134.794206207 349589;1381658781;mircea_popescu;;;wrongulate 300 349590;1381658781;gribble;276.2198 349591;1381658950;mircea_popescu;http://bitbet.us/bet/555/difficulty-to-continue-increasing-by-over-20/ 349592;1381658951;ozbot;BitBet - Difficulty to continue increasing by over 20% 349593;1381658954;mircea_popescu;that's siome brave shit. 349594;1381658959;mircea_popescu;.d 349595;1381658959;ozbot;189281249.28103 | Next Diff in 760 blocks | Estimated Change: 27.8181% in 3d 19h 22m 18s 349596;1381660097;jurov;Well, assbot can kick gribble and not the other way around. 349597;1381661194;FabianB_;lol, but not in all channels :) 349598;1381661412;FabianB_;.d 349599;1381661412;ozbot;189281249.28103 | Next Diff in 753 blocks | Estimated Change: 27.9538% in 3d 18h 24m 58s 349600;1381662165;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7350 @ 0.00085056 = 6.2516 BTC [+] {3} 349601;1381662226;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 107 @ 0.00722601 = 0.7732 BTC [-] {3} 349602;1381663862;turbo_ac100;;;prevdiffchange 349603;1381663867;gribble;27.18873 349604;1381664727;assbot;[MPEX] [S.BBET] 3800 @ 0.00050025 = 1.901 BTC [-] 349605;1381665385;dexX7;mircea_popescu: i saw the comparison of different exchanges you put on trilema in 2012. you stated explictily that mpex is unregistred. is there a specific reason, why "this is okay"? 349606;1381665440;mircea_popescu;they're all unregistered. 349607;1381665475;mircea_popescu;until such a time I move into the building vacated by the fiat ex-stock exchange, and until such a time I'm sitting on the policy panel deciding how stock exchanging works, this will remain the case. 349608;1381665492;mircea_popescu;we'll be registered once we take over, and we make the rules for registration. 349609;1381665521;dexX7;ah i see 349610;1381667777;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6455 @ 0.00084756 = 5.471 BTC [-] {3} 349611;1381668875;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69348300 BTC to 1`386`966 shares, 50 satoshi per share 349612;1381669263;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/how-to-airgap-a-practical-guide/ 349613;1381669263;ozbot;How to airgap. A practical guide. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 349614;1381669546;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 96 @ 0.00244 = 0.2342 BTC [+] 349615;1381670466;dexX7;http://threatpost.com/how-defeat-full-disk-encryption-one-minute-101909/72345 << this attack is super lame.. same as: "but what if the attacker installs a hardware keylogger?" 349616;1381670583;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6670 @ 0.00085318 = 5.6907 BTC [+] {3} 349617;1381670697;dexX7;thus "full disk encryption ... that as of yet does not work" is somewhat incorrect imho. lame analogy: "passwords don't work, because you can install trojaner/keylogger" 349618;1381671182;dexX7;"gpp is broken and fail, because you can steal a private key" :p 349619;1381671201;dexX7;*gpg 349620;1381672291;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.46879999 = 0.9376 BTC [+] {2} 349621;1381673084;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.00730166 = 0.219 BTC [-] {2} 349622;1381673206;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 87 @ 0.00247929 = 0.2157 BTC [+] {4} 349623;1381673328;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.0073 = 0.219 BTC [-] 349624;1381673895;nanotube;aye, gpg is just as vulnerable to hardware keyloggers as full disk encryption. if that's your threat model, there's no reason to recommend one over the other. 349625;1381673930;nanotube;in the meantime, when using gpg on a per-file basis, that usually means decrypting and writing a file to disk in unencrypted form for editing. editing. then encrypting and wiping unencrypted. 349626;1381673940;nanotube;and you run into the "impossible to really delete stuff off modern disks" problem. 349627;1381673950;nanotube;whereas with full-disk encryption, you don't have to worry about that bit. 349628;1381673977;nanotube;but you know, nothing wrong with using both full disk encryption, /and/ an additional gpg-per-file layer for selected files. 349629;1381674065;gecko_x2;there is speculation about intel's prng implementation and wether it's spiked 349630;1381674082;gecko_x2;on the crypto mailing list 349631;1381674094;gecko_x2;i urge anyone interested to follow that convo 349632;1381674116;gecko_x2;also about ecc and if the NSA has been able to break some curves 349633;1381674121;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00085571 = 5.1343 BTC [+] {2} 349634;1381674213;gecko_x2;there is good news however 349635;1381674233;gecko_x2;the NSA is not breaking strong crypto 349636;1381674253;gecko_x2;just the endpoint security is so weak that they can do anything they like 349637;1381674271;gecko_x2;they have specialized teams for every OS out there 349638;1381674280;gecko_x2;called the 'Tailored Access Group' 349639;1381674312;gecko_x2;another piece of good news is that they are not able to break TOR 349640;1381674321;gecko_x2;all they can do is timing 349641;1381674344;gecko_x2;timing the packets that leave your client to the packets that exit an tor exit node 349642;1381674553;carly_;which mailing list you mean gecko_x2 ? 349643;1381674619;gecko_x2;well 349644;1381674629;gecko_x2;you can start with the september thread: 349645;1381674635;gecko_x2;http://www.metzdowd.com/pipermail/cryptography/2013-September/thread.html#17825 349646;1381674636;ozbot;The cryptography September 2013 Archive by thread 349647;1381674646;gecko_x2;be warned: your brain might explode. 349648;1381674666;gecko_x2;"[Cryptography] Opening Discussion: Speculation on "BULLRUN" " 349649;1381674677;gecko_x2;is the really interesting discussion 349650;1381674792;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1231 @ 0.00025999 = 0.32 BTC [-] 349651;1381675158;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.8 BTC [+] 349652;1381675707;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 47 @ 0.86749786 = 40.7724 BTC [+] {6} 349653;1381676256;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.86879999 = 4.344 BTC [+] {2} 349654;1381680892;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.43088098 BTC [-] 349655;1381681197;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 102 @ 0.006 = 0.612 BTC [+] 349656;1381681243;skinnkavaj;http://www.reddit.com/r/litecoin/comments/1o3fdz/we_are_the_litecoin_dev_team_ama/ 349657;1381681244;ozbot;We are the Litecoin dev team: AMA : litecoin 349658;1381681807;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 48 @ 0.00699999 = 0.336 BTC [+] 349659;1381681808;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.45999987 = 0.92 BTC [+] 349660;1381682338;nubbins`;hi 349661;1381682738;carly_;are there already some priviledged users who are able to get a beta acc for coinx? 349662;1381682844;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 156 @ 0.00725191 = 1.1313 BTC [-] {6} 349663;1381682902;nanotube;gecko_x2: yea, but one could avoid using the on-cpu rng. as to tor: would be even better if we had more nodes. there are only a total of 4k-ish. 349664;1381683101;carly_;does someone know here who is behind leetcoin? 349665;1381683130;gecko_x2;nanotube yes very true, but the main point here really is that now ppl like us are thinking about these things actively, which was the main reason for snowden to ever do this 349666;1381683142;gecko_x2;he recently stated in his moscow interview 349667;1381683145;gecko_x2;a few days ago 349668;1381683158;gecko_x2;that he was very satisfied with the reaction from the community 349669;1381683161;gecko_x2;and i agree 349670;1381683192;gecko_x2;the mere fact that we are now thinking about this stuff is gonna make life hell for the NSA going forward 349671;1381683211;gecko_x2;snowden always said his biggest fear was that nothing would changew 349672;1381683224;gecko_x2;and he doesn't have to fear anymore 349673;1381683241;gecko_x2;so his run was successful 349674;1381683275;gecko_x2;give the community half a decade to implement stuff based on this intel, and the NSA will have built their ohio fascist data centre in vain 349675;1381683290;gecko_x2;no matter how much water they use to cool down their boxes 349676;1381683300;gecko_x2;they will still not break strong crypto 349677;1381683307;gecko_x2;and endpoint security will evolve 349678;1381683337;gecko_x2;err 349679;1381683344;gecko_x2;sry.. utah.. not ohio :p 349680;1381683423;nanotube;gecko_x2: indeed. the information has served as a catalyst for thought and improvement. 349681;1381683803;gecko_x2;just wait until darknet arrives 349682;1381683812;gecko_x2;the NSA will cry rivers of blood 349683;1381683824;gecko_x2;noiste is the future here 349684;1381683853;gecko_x2;noiseless steganography 349685;1381683931;gecko_x2;you combine a noiste aware tcp/ip interfac with strong symmetric OTP crypto 349686;1381683952;gecko_x2;and the NSA will be reduced to mere cockroaches which they are 349687;1381684080;gecko_x2;OTP is a nightmare for the fascists 349688;1381684104;gecko_x2;currently used mainly for online banking 349689;1381684121;gecko_x2;but it will spread to packet level eventually 349690;1381684125;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00084748 = 2.6272 BTC [-] {2} 349691;1381684744;chsados;who runs bitbet.us here? 349692;1381684836;kakobrekla;chsados: mircea_popescu , unless you got cookies. 349693;1381684857;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 210 @ 0.00069714 = 0.1464 BTC [+] {2} 349694;1381684861;chsados;I have oatmeal rasin cookies right here next to me actually lol 349695;1381684885;kakobrekla;that works, whats up 349696;1381684918;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 280 @ 0.00076856 = 0.2152 BTC [+] {2} 349697;1381685092;chsados;kakobrekla: i keep getting rejected for a bet saying bad specs can I pm you and get help with pointers on wording it better with more specs? 349698;1381685121;kakobrekla;ah yeah i just saw your email 349699;1381685129;chsados;cool 349700;1381685130;kakobrekla;best to talk to mircea_popescu when he comes back 349701;1381685134;chsados;ok 349702;1381685138;kakobrekla;he will tell you whats works and what doesnt 349703;1381685176;chsados;;;later tell mircea_popescu would you mind PMing me with wording a bet i have attempted to create twice with rejection status "need more specs" 349704;1381685176;gribble;The operation succeeded. 349705;1381685198;kakobrekla;:) 349706;1381685205;chsados;thx 349707;1381685210;kakobrekla;ill have that cookie now 349708;1381685218;chsados;will a scan work? 349709;1381685239;kakobrekla;i thought you shove it in the lcd real hard and it pops up here 349710;1381685247;kakobrekla;ah well ill get it next time. 349711;1381685317;kakobrekla;hm 349712;1381685337;nanotube;gecko_x2: we have good tools now. problem is, [almost] nobody's using them. somehow i doubt this will change, regardless of how good our tools are. 349713;1381685345;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.86879998 = 4.344 BTC [-] {3} 349714;1381685359;kakobrekla;the "i dont have a 3d printer" joke completley changed in last 10 years but its still funny 349715;1381685383;chsados;lol 1 sec kakobrekla 349716;1381685405;chsados;here you go http://i.imgur.com/6cYtpdP.jpg 349717;1381685406;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 80 @ 0.0025 = 0.2 BTC [+] 349718;1381685416;kakobrekla;lmao 349719;1381685428;kakobrekla;nobody else should even look at that url 349720;1381685434;kakobrekla;dont tuch mah cookies ya hear 349721;1381685469;nubbins`;so what's the bet? 349722;1381685480;nubbins`;i see someone plunked 1 BTC on "no" for havelock's US restrictions 349723;1381685483;kakobrekla;will the cookie crumble? 349724;1381685489;kakobrekla;ah that 349725;1381685494;chsados;the cookie is nice and moist :D 349726;1381685498;nanotube;haha why does that remind me of http://bash.org/?104052 349727;1381685502;kakobrekla;bet on no it wont. 349728;1381685515;kakobrekla;lol 349729;1381685528;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 29 @ 0.0078 = 0.2262 BTC [+] 349730;1381685568;nubbins`;glad bash is still going strong 349731;1381685588;kakobrekla;is it? 349732;1381685591;nubbins`;well 349733;1381685594;nubbins`;still a website, at least 349734;1381685605;kakobrekla;if that is how you define going strong ... mkay 349735;1381685612;nubbins`;heh 349736;1381685621;nubbins`;labcoin, still going strong 349737;1381685626;kakobrekla;:DDD 349738;1381685640;assbot;Last 5 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1415465/plain/) 349739;1381685640;kakobrekla;!b 5 349740;1381685648;nubbins`;silk road, still goi… wait 349741;1381685718;kakobrekla;now you are bashed while you are bashing bash 349742;1381685720;kakobrekla;http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=7 349743;1381685721;ozbot;#bitcoin-assets bash 349744;1381685721;nubbins`;there's a strong relationship between how tasty your coffee is, and how many beers you drank last night 349745;1381685921;chsados;my dog is like shaking and can barely walk.... i think he got into some ganja 349746;1381686199;nubbins`;hm 349747;1381686211;nubbins`;i think "eskimobob" from btctalk has some major issues 349748;1381686250;kakobrekla;with what 349749;1381686255;kakobrekla;gypsy boiler room? 349750;1381686259;kakobrekla;or smth like dat 349751;1381686266;nubbins`;mental health 349752;1381686279;kakobrekla;ah that 349753;1381686292;nubbins`;specifically in that he fancies himself to be very clever and very wise 349754;1381686296;nubbins`;but is, in fact, neither 349755;1381686317;kakobrekla;i never say im good 349756;1381686320;kakobrekla;just that others suck 349757;1381686450;kakobrekla;[along side] 349758;1381686524;nubbins`;http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/active-kid-postage-stamps-yanked-over-safety-concerns-1.2021485 349759;1381686524;ozbot;Active kid postage stamps yanked over safety concerns - World - CBC News 349760;1381686535;nubbins`;"One shows a young swimmer doing a cannonball into water. In another, a child is skateboarding wearing a helmet but no kneepads. In the third, a youngster is doing a headstand without a helmet." 349761;1381686548;nubbins`;a HEADSTAND without a fucking HELMET. 349762;1381686551;nubbins`;imagine! 349763;1381686568;kakobrekla;i think they forgot sarastaball? 349764;1381686574;kakobrekla;sarcastaball * 349765;1381686587;nubbins`;those stamps are pieces of shit anyway 349766;1381686591;nubbins`;what's with the random words 349767;1381686598;nubbins`;"pump high / swing" 349768;1381686602;nubbins`;"turn around / twist" 349769;1381686621;nubbins`;"hike up / climb"… y'know, hike up a fucking rope 349770;1381686648;nubbins`;and they all have "FOREVER" with a line crossing it out 349771;1381686662;kakobrekla;lol 349772;1381686679;nubbins`;the real news story is that the USPS decided to let some asshole design a set of stamps on his ipad 349773;1381686717;kakobrekla;he obv should use samsung tablet 349774;1381686724;nubbins`;lel yes 349775;1381686734;nubbins`;or blackberry playbook 349776;1381686784;kakobrekla;bb is so dead in yurop 349777;1381686885;nubbins`;and in canadia 349778;1381686892;nubbins`;wht a trainwreck of a company 349779;1381687244;jimbo_;bitfunder down 349780;1381687400;kakobrekla;http://i.imgur.com/jgwRMJo.jpg 349781;1381687474;nubbins`;!! 349782;1381687638;zoinky;wont that graph look funny when the top 3 exchanges is BTCChina 349783;1381687651;zoinky;oh its USD exchanges. nevermind.. 349784;1381687843;kakobrekla;>there are NO trading fees on btcchina 349785;1381687914;nubbins`;how do they make money? 349786;1381687948;zoinky;pretty sure 0 fees is promotional, right? 349787;1381687954;kakobrekla;prolly 349788;1381688015;nubbins`;would be neat to own some ¥ 349789;1381688415;nubbins`;ugh, i better get this day started. thanksgiving supper in an hour 349790;1381688517;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.00735 = 0.2205 BTC [-] 349791;1381691628;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.00730005 = 1.46 BTC [-] {2} 349792;1381691629;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.8688 BTC [+] 349793;1381691872;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 191 @ 0.00119 = 0.2273 BTC [-] 349794;1381693092;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1002 @ 0.00119507 = 1.1975 BTC [+] {3} 349795;1381693153;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 812 @ 0.0012 = 0.9744 BTC [+] {2} 349796;1381693580;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4550 @ 0.00084598 = 3.8492 BTC [-] 349797;1381693610;mircea_popescu;;;later tell chsados sup 349798;1381693611;gribble;The operation succeeded. 349799;1381694068;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 359 @ 0.00119 = 0.4272 BTC [-] 349800;1381694108;mircea_popescu;dexX7 not quite. passwords suck on http because http is stateless. that's true. 349801;1381694141;mircea_popescu;nanotube if i get your "full disk encrupted" pc i can full disk decrypt it. if i get your gpg'd stuff, good luck to me. 349802;1381694153;dexX7;haha, i was just pulling out stupid examples to find something simliar to "full disk encryption sucks, because of attacks based on direct access to the hardware" 349803;1381694211;mircea_popescu;but that's the usecase man. full disk encryption is supposed to protect the data from physical access attacks. 349804;1381694215;mircea_popescu;if it fails to do that, it fails. 349805;1381694251;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.81000005 = 1.62 BTC [-] {2} 349806;1381694373;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2450 @ 0.00084544 = 2.0713 BTC [-] {2} 349807;1381694391;dexX7;hm.. in that case you're right, but i'd assume the standard scenario is more like "bad guy sneaks into your house and steals your hdd" 349808;1381694416;mircea_popescu;right. 349809;1381694434;mircea_popescu;so what is this, "it's safe because bad guy is presumed stupid" ? 349810;1381694438;mircea_popescu;why not just use rot13 then 349811;1381694481;dexX7;even a stupid guy can figure something out, if he's given enough time 349812;1381694512;mircea_popescu;nanotube and as to "use both" : the point of science, any science, is to isolate what works from what doesn't and exclude the latter. this is why dentist treats your teeth his way rather than recommending you "also use shaman method". 349813;1381694679;dexX7;i'd like to know: why do you say single file encryption is preferred? 349814;1381694782;mircea_popescu;because should you obtain the encrypted file there's nothing you can do. 349815;1381694938;dexX7;same applies to "encrypted hard drive", so you already include "direct access attacks". i'll rephrase then: how is single file encryption more secure in a similar scenario? 349816;1381694952;chsados;mircea_popescu you here? 349817;1381694956;chsados;;;seen mircea_popescu 349818;1381694957;gribble;mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 minutes and 53 seconds ago: because should you obtain the encrypted file there's nothing you can do. 349819;1381694957;mircea_popescu;yes. 349820;1381694968;chsados;may I pm you 349821;1381694974;mircea_popescu;please do. 349822;1381694986;mircea_popescu;dexX7 there are numerous different avenues to remove encryption from a full disk encryption schemes. 349823;1381694991;mircea_popescu;there aren't such for plain old pgp. 349824;1381695178;jurov; nanotube if i get your "full disk encrupted" pc i can full disk decrypt it. << how so? 349825;1381695204;jurov;the chick yu linked to did not do that 349826;1381695223;jurov;she just modified the bootloader for next time you'll input passphrase 349827;1381695239;jurov;so the same attack can be applied to gpg 349828;1381695251;mircea_popescu;jurov here's an 5 year old forum post going through the basics : http://forum.teamxbox.com/archive/index.php/t-617093.html 349829;1381695273;nanotube;mircea_popescu> nanotube if i get your "full disk encrupted" pc i can full disk decrypt it. if i get your gpg'd stuff, good luck to me. <- you are missing a crucial step. you don't just 'get my fde comp and got everything' 349830;1381695281;nanotube;you have to get it, modify it, then give it back to me, then get it again 349831;1381695296;nanotube;and if you do the same, you got my gpgd stuff just as well. 349832;1381695306;mircea_popescu;not at all. 349833;1381695325;mircea_popescu;i can just steal your key from the boot in a variety of different ways, also from recently powered down systems, 349834;1381695337;mircea_popescu;it's just nonsense. to be able to boot you will have to at some point trust the machine. that's all. 349835;1381695352;mircea_popescu;machine doesn't knwo you from me. 349836;1381695364;nanotube;the 'maid attack' that you link to 349837;1381695383;mircea_popescu;that's just one example. 349838;1381695398;nanotube;required the attacker to boot from usb, which modifies the bios/mbr to log pw. then you wait until i log on and snarf my pw 349839;1381695406;nanotube;you can't just 'steal my comp and have all my data' 349840;1381695414;dub;the latest link has thesame dependancy 349841;1381695414;mircea_popescu;yeah, actually, i can. 349842;1381695420;nanotube;mircea_popescu: got link to such attack? 349843;1381695455;mircea_popescu;ok, let's make it simple : do you agree that in order for your system to be safe it has to be powered down, whereas for gpg to be safe it doesn't have to be powered down ? 349844;1381695471;jurov;not 349845;1381695509;nanotube;not sure how aggressive gpg is in not storing your pw anywhere in memory. my /guess/ is that if you can take a memdump, you can get the gpg pw also. not sure though. 349846;1381695523;mircea_popescu;suppose i didn't touch gpg in the current session. 349847;1381695537;Bunnyh;suppose i didn't decrypt my disk in the current session? 349848;1381695548;mircea_popescu;how the hell are you going to boot an encrypted disk ? 349849;1381695572;dub;who says its booted? you're talking about completely different things tbh 349850;1381695581;mircea_popescu;basically, in the simplest of terms : fde requires key be available for the os at all times the disk is in use. 349851;1381695591;mircea_popescu;file level encryption makes a less burdensome requirement. 349852;1381695599;mircea_popescu;this alone is the end of the theoretical discussion. 349853;1381695621;dub;sure, deploying fde and feeling safe in the manner of your average global megacorp security weeny is silly but that doesnt make it broken 349854;1381695624;mircea_popescu;without going into all the ways truecrypt is broken and etc, which i don't feel i have the energy for 349855;1381695625;dexX7;yada yada.. i think you simply can't say "this one sucks, the other one is the way to go". 349856;1381695634;mircea_popescu;dexX7 except you can. 349857;1381695656;mircea_popescu;this is why you need experts : so they make definite statements in places where the common sense seems lost. 349858;1381695668;dub;that same weeny is probablt fine with accessing his pgp keys on an internet cafe kiosk 349859;1381695678;mircea_popescu;otherwise we're back to yadda yadfda, you can't say faith healing doesn't work. 349860;1381695692;mircea_popescu;dub well sure, but it still is a smaller burden. smaller burden wins. 349861;1381695698;Bunnyh;what's wrong with using fde when, say, developing software? would you rather have each of the thousands of files encrypted individually? 349862;1381695701;dub;well no 349863;1381695709;mircea_popescu;Bunnyh i am not disputing it 349864;1381695724;mircea_popescu;'s convenient in some cases. you have to appreciate we were discussing a specific rthing, ie, making an airgapped machine. 349865;1381695747;dub;dexX7: he can say that, kinda like, climate science is bunk because someone said al gore made it up 349866;1381695750;nanotube;mircea_popescu: sure, if you didn't happen to use gpg in the session, you're fine. and actually, gpg could be 'really good' at not caching pw in memory, thanks to gpg-agent being purpose-built to handle thing securely. cf this paper: philosecurity.org/pubs/davidoff-clearmem-linux.pdf‎ 349867;1381695771;mircea_popescu;nanotube yeah. 349868;1381695782;nanotube;but then also, how about an encrypted partition with your files? 349869;1381695789;mircea_popescu;ftr, im not saying fde will never work. it may eventually work. we're not there yet. 349870;1381695801;mircea_popescu;nanotube as long as it's not bootable, perhaps it can be well implemented. 349871;1381695807;nanotube;would be easier to use than individual file encryption. and you'd also only access it when you need. 349872;1381695817;mircea_popescu;rightj. the death of fde is the boot part rly. 349873;1381695833;mircea_popescu;otherwise, in good old unix fashion, a partition is a file anyway. 349874;1381695841;nanotube;the boot part protects against an important class of attacks. namely, stolen/lost hardware. 349875;1381695854;mircea_popescu;except it doesn't rly. it tries to. 349876;1381695856;nanotube;which, let's face it, is a much more common class of issue than "someone actively trying to snoop at your files" 349877;1381695870;mircea_popescu;so you steal a diskload of gpg files. what now ? 349878;1381695887;dub;its exactly the same thing 349879;1381695889;nanotube;your diskload also contains a bunch of stuff you didn't encrypt 349880;1381695897;nanotube;because you must take effort to encrypt every file. 349881;1381695899;mircea_popescu;i mean i get it, it's lazy cvasisecurity. grand. may work well in many cases. i don't want it in my airgapped machine. 349882;1381695918;nanotube;so maybe, your email inbox contains your email address, and your name, and various 'non-essential files' also reveal a lot of info about you. 349883;1381695925;nanotube;with fde, they get bupkus. 349884;1381695936;mircea_popescu;i got news for you 349885;1381695942;mircea_popescu;if your email wasn't gpg'd its read long ago. 349886;1381695952;jurov;i mean, once someone is either able to reboot the machine without you knowing or freeze memory modules, it's pretty game over 349887;1381695958;nanotube;if your email was gpgd, your headers are still plain text. news for you? :) 349888;1381695964;mircea_popescu;jurov no, it's not. 349889;1381695976;mircea_popescu;nanotube nope. recall, im the guy using his real name in the bitcoin space. 349890;1381696028;nanotube;anyway, so my point is, it's good to have fde, to have easy 'blanket' protection against the common issue of accidental loss. and then you can use another layer such as gpg to protect the 'really important stuff' 349891;1381696042;nanotube;fde is not "zero benefit" 349892;1381696052;nanotube;though it's certainly "not as much benefit as we'd hope" 349893;1381696060;jurov;how not? if it's law enformcement, usually it's just sufficient to prove that you are owner of certain gpg key. 349894;1381696062;nanotube;which you are correct to bring up. 349895;1381696084;mircea_popescu;nanotube it's basically an antivirus product. it's good to have for your girlfriend, so it keeps the system sorta-above water. 349896;1381696085;jurov;then if you are unable to decrypt it, won't help you much 349897;1381696114;mircea_popescu;jurov i don't quite follow the logic there. 349898;1381696191;jurov;the logic is, such an powerful adversary doesn't really need the data, they have them from other sources, just metadata are OK to use against you 349899;1381696201;mircea_popescu;i fail to see how this works. 349900;1381696211;mircea_popescu;"your honor, we know X talked to Y. therefore X did it" ? 349901;1381696240;jurov;even if X signed stuff with private key found on such piece of evidence 349902;1381696241;jurov;> 349903;1381696245;jurov;? 349904;1381696255;jurov;now deny that 349905;1381696321;mircea_popescu;i deny. what ? 349906;1381696332;mircea_popescu;circumstantial evidence, of the weakest sort. i'll just point and laugh at you. 349907;1381696351;jurov;that you possess certain privkey on an purposely airgapped machine? 349908;1381696365;jurov;as evidenced by gpg --list-keys 349909;1381696380;jurov;without ever needing any passphrase 349910;1381696417;mircea_popescu;herp. the proof is that i keep secrets ? 349911;1381696424;mircea_popescu;what is this, england ? 349912;1381696426;Bunnyh;is it any easier to explain why have you encryped partitions but don't actually know what's in there? 349913;1381696454;mircea_popescu;Bunnyh in most free countries it's enough to say it's nobody;'s business what you kee pthere and the da can either make a case or get lost. 349914;1381696463;mircea_popescu;you're not making his case for him in any circumstance. 349915;1381696473;nanotube;can we all just agree that there are multiple attack vectors, and different approaches provide varying protections against them? 349916;1381696501;dexX7;no, please continue 349917;1381696510;Bunnyh;i'd summarize this by saying that there are needs for different granularities in encrypting data 349918;1381696511;mircea_popescu;nanotube yes, we can. but we'll have to agree that while some things provide absolute protection against the attack vector, some other things provide partial protection. 349919;1381696526;mircea_popescu;they may be more convenient or profitable or w/e, but they're still qualitatively different. 349920;1381696533;nanotube;what's this "the attack vector" you speak of? haven't we agreed that there are multiple? :D 349921;1381696544;jurov;such as denying that attack vector exists "in any circumstance" mkay. 349922;1381696569;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.81 = 3.24 BTC [-] 349923;1381696590;jurov;it did exist here in eastern europe, just some 25 years ago 349924;1381696599;nanotube;mircea_popescu> Bunnyh in most free countries it's enough to say it's nobody;'s business what you kee pthere <- unfortunately there are countries that are not that free. 349925;1381696608;jurov;they would sencence you on such "evidence", no problem 349926;1381696616;mircea_popescu;we can agree that wearing a maillot is kinda like being dressed, except if it gets wet, or if it gets flashed or if there's a black light etc. 349927;1381696754;mircea_popescu;jurov ostensibly they can just shoot you, too. hardly part of the discussion i guess. 349928;1381696794;Namworld;So, no one is running a MPOE or BBET passthrough currently? Jurov, would you be willing to take my holders on coinbr? 349929;1381696817;jurov;Namworld: yes 349930;1381696821;Namworld;Havelock not accepting new assets and Bitfunder might not survive for much longer it seems. 349931;1381696858;dexX7;Namworld: did hl state a proper reason? 349932;1381696871;Namworld;No proper reason 349933;1381696935;Namworld;Only thing I might keep alive is BTC-BOND, manually. Buyback every small holders, only keep large ones. 349934;1381696996;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 92 @ 0.0012 = 0.1104 BTC [+] 349935;1381697004;jurov;Namworld: but if you keep that up for very last moment like you did things after mpex delisting, then i may be hard to speak to 349936;1381697008;mircea_popescu;re-reading the thing i gotta give it to dub... he kinda has good points. 349937;1381697020;jurov;Namworld: i like some planning 349938;1381697102;Namworld;Ok jurov, I guess I'll offer either buyback at 110% MPEx ask price or transfer to coinbr. I'll PM you. 349939;1381697301;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 900 @ 0.00084598 = 0.7614 BTC [+] 349940;1381697601;mircea_popescu;http://www.youtube.com/embed/edAxujKev1I 349941;1381697601;ozbot;The Chemical Worker's Song by Great Big Sea - YouTube 349942;1381697701;jurov;oh and the real reason why i don't get the issue with fde, is that you imply attackers have access to memory and that implies the machine was on or was shut down just minutes ago 349943;1381697718;jurov;now, who is going to keep airgapped machine always on? 349944;1381697778;jurov;and if the adversary can time their attack precisely, they can as well tranquilize you right after you typed gpg passphrase 349945;1381697861;mircea_popescu;again different windows. "computer being on" vs "that second right after he's typed a pw" 349946;1381697888;jurov;i admit that. but doesn't look very different to me 349947;1381697896;mircea_popescu;that's a problem of perspective, tho. 349948;1381697907;mircea_popescu;also, whole disk vs file that was being processed. also very different payoffs. 349949;1381697920;mircea_popescu;security is, in the end, the job of minimizing exposure. 349950;1381697946;mircea_popescu;there's a reason people engaged in fencing stand sideways. and they all do it, because even if awkawrd and lulzy a stance, it is more secure. 349951;1381697971;dub;wait wat countries can you refuse to decryopt something? 349952;1381697981;mircea_popescu;all of them. 349953;1381697988;mircea_popescu;it's in the end the test of whether it's a country. 349954;1381697995;dub;right so, none 349955;1381697999;dub;in the real world 349956;1381698006;mircea_popescu;yes in the real world. 349957;1381698049;dub;praps we should all move to romania 349958;1381698064;mircea_popescu;you certainly should all move out of the us, if there's no more 5th. 349959;1381698232;dub;in most places that exist, afaik a judge can require something be opened for inspection 349960;1381698247;mircea_popescu;they can require it all they want. 349961;1381698258;mircea_popescu;they'll have to require it of their own agents. 349962;1381698278;dub;its the old $5 spanner deal though 349963;1381698289;jurov;i wish i could share mircea's ideas about actual lawfulness of the law enformcement around here 349964;1381698294;dub;you can refuse, and enjoy prison until your mind changes 349965;1381698313;mircea_popescu;nope. 349966;1381698337;mircea_popescu;that'd be a sight, criminal contempt ordered in a criminal proceeding against the defendant who pleaded the 5th. 349967;1381698340;mircea_popescu;this i wish to see. 349968;1381698349;dub;whats the 5th 349969;1381698358;mircea_popescu;;;google 5th amendment 349970;1381698359;gribble;Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia, the ...: ; Fifth Amendment | LII / Legal Information Institute: ; Fifth Amendment | U.S. Constitution | LII / Legal Information Institute: (1 more message) 349971;1381698373;dub;I know what it is, its a completely retarded law that only america has 349972;1381698387;mircea_popescu;in other news, i am currently eating taliban cookies, i wish it entered into the permanent record. 349973;1381698389;dub;what relevance does it have outside retardsville 349974;1381698390;mircea_popescu;;;google maamoul 349975;1381698391;gribble;Ma'amoul - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Maamoul: Stuffed Date-Orange Cookies Recipe : Food Network ...: ; Maamoul – Recipes from a Traditional Lebanese Easter- The Food ...: praps we should all move to romania you certainly should all move out of the us, if there's no more 5th. 349977;1381698582;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5855 @ 0.00084917 = 4.9719 BTC [+] {2} 349978;1381698619;dub;ok so the thing that only applies to people who have already given up any freedom or right to privacy 349979;1381698643;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 300 @ 0.0012 = 0.36 BTC [+] {2} 349980;1381698655;dub;important distinction 349981;1381698678;mircea_popescu;wait what ? 349982;1381698771;dub;fyi, you don't need to even enter the US legally (transit) to be required by them to unlock and decrypt anything you are carrying 349983;1381698788;dub;phones, computers, storage etc 349984;1381698833;Apocalyptic;dafuq 349985;1381698866;dub;let alone the willingness to rendite or simply drone strike in any corner of the planet 349986;1381698893;mircea_popescu;herp. 349987;1381698917;mircea_popescu;generally speaking, people can require anythning they feel like. the internet is full of derps requiring shit. 349988;1381698926;mircea_popescu;i get tons of emails requiring all sorta crap all day long. 349989;1381698926;mircea_popescu;etc. 349990;1381699039;dub;the difference isthe size of their stick 349991;1381699062;mircea_popescu;dude get out. what stick ? 349992;1381699079;mircea_popescu;what are they gonna do, punish you by paying for your three meals a day ? 349993;1381699188;dub;lol 349994;1381699261;dub;rather than expose my secrets for the fear of incarceration I'll just remain incarcerated, makes perfect sense 349995;1381699279;mircea_popescu;do anything rather than play nice with idiots. 349996;1381699425;dub;fortunately for the idiots a large percentage of people !mircea_popescu have low tolerance for the stick they wield 349997;1381699437;mircea_popescu;a well. 349998;1381699496;dub;sadly one of the security paradigms nobody seems to understand is that it must actually work 349999;1381699553;mircea_popescu;must actually work != satisfy inept preconceived notions. 350000;1381699569;mircea_popescu;there's never going to be security that "actually works" in the sense of bringing you santa back. 350001;1381699655;dub;sorry but you're the one talking in fairy tales 350002;1381699682;mircea_popescu;so i suppose we leave it at that. 350003;1381699685;dub;magical kingdoms where the libertarian ideal is upheld 350004;1381699710;jurov;pffft not even libertarian ideals.. rule of law. 350005;1381699734;dub;'rule of law' is a libertard dream 350006;1381699792;dub;there has been no such thing for quite some time now 350007;1381699836;mircea_popescu;i suppose the courts look a lot different if you regard them from the priviledged end than from the business end. 350008;1381699957;jurov;^let this be put into public record. 350009;1381700078;dub;I suppose its easy to be optimistic 350010;1381700166;dub;good luck for then you actually need to test it 350011;1381700173;dub;when* 350012;1381700179;mircea_popescu;dub you know, i'm probably the only one here with actual experience at successfully suing governments. what's easy is to elevate one's not particularly relevant experience to some sort of end-all story of the world. 350013;1381700213;dub;yeah well theres governments and theres governments 350014;1381700267;mircea_popescu;nevertheless. 350015;1381700384;dexX7;now that this is out - for what did you sue them? 350016;1381700490;mircea_popescu;most notably we had a dispute as to whether a foreign worker's qualifications are to be evaluated by its employer or the bureaucrats. 350017;1381700536;dub;evaluated? 350018;1381700576;mircea_popescu;yeah, something like, "I want to hire X guy, give him a work permit". "we won't, because X guy could be replaced by local labor" "stfu" 350019;1381700585;dub;ah 350020;1381700678;mircea_popescu;well their idea is something like... oh computer programming ? sure, we got this guy, he took a six months java course. 350021;1381700719;mircea_popescu;computers, pizza ovens, trucks, what's the big difference. 350022;1381700744;dub;I was thinking more 'Yes that is a fantastic ass, we have nothing of that calibre locally, work visa granted' 350023;1381700779;mircea_popescu;i never had trouble importing ass. that's easy to explain. 350024;1381700854;mircea_popescu;anyway. i ended up getting a court order so extensive they ended up having to a) issue me a special made document, as in, without expiration date and b) modify their regulations. 350025;1381700864;mircea_popescu;and since that particular crew is petrified of crazy mp. 350026;1381701144;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 158 @ 0.0012 = 0.1896 BTC [+] 350027;1381701655;chsados;are the bitches in romania sexy? 350028;1381701747;mircea_popescu;;;google gradina edenului nsfw 350029;1381701748;gribble;Olariu Ionela | Facebook: ; Radu Dumitru Daniel | Facebook: 350030;1381701751;mircea_popescu;whoa. 350031;1381701759;dub;fwiw I have been before the courts as more than defendant :) 350032;1381701770;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2011/nsfw-gradina-edenului/ 350033;1381701771;ozbot;NSFW Gradina Edenului pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 350034;1381701979;kakobrekla;so, the most read article of all trilema is trilema premium? 350035;1381702035;mircea_popescu;actually the most read article is "cum se suge pula", a cocksucking guide. 350036;1381702052;kakobrekla;mebbe you should do it in english too 350037;1381702104;mircea_popescu;yeh one of these days. 350038;1381702503;fractal;massive $150 breakout happning. huge volume on gox. going to hit $200 this month. 350039;1381702536;kakobrekla;;;ticker 350040;1381702537;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 146.15000, Best ask: 147.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.85000, Last trade: 146.15000, 24 hour volume: 14320.08849133, 24 hour low: 141.28508, 24 hour high: 147.00000, 24 hour vwap: 144.48451 350041;1381702550;kakobrekla;i dont mind 350042;1381702568;mircea_popescu;so that's why i was selling calls yest 350043;1381702596;fractal;selling calls? you will get CRUSHED.... we're heading to $250 by dec 350044;1381702601;zoinky;quite a wild prediction fractal 350045;1381702616;kakobrekla;fractal you should put some money on some bbet 350046;1381702624;fractal;its guaranteed -- SR is out of the picture now -- china volume just overtook all USD volume.... massive buying coming in 350047;1381702639;fractal;wheres the BBET bet? i'll put down 100 BTC now... 350048;1381702646;mircea_popescu;fractal i don't have a choice, im passive in the matter. 350049;1381702666;mircea_popescu;Oct 11 21:39:07 [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.C131T] 685 @ 0.32277052 = 221.0978 BTC [-] 350050;1381702669;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00084985 = 1.9547 BTC [+] 350051;1381702676;zoinky;100 btc on $250 by dec? 350052;1381702690;fractal;all the idiots saying that bitcoin only has value because of SR --- i've been saying its not true for 2 years... now i am vindicated. i will be proven right again as we hit $250 this year once more 350053;1381702702;carly_;can you name a site where you can play against each other different games for bitcoins? I dont mean a casino or gambling site. Just playing against each other in different pc games 350054;1381702715;zoinky;yeah the people in this channel are always saying SR is all bitcoin's value... 350055;1381702726;kakobrekla;well there isnt one of 250 but you have a 200 bet 350056;1381702731;mircea_popescu;fractal 2 years ? wut ? lol 350057;1381702731;kakobrekla;http://bitbet.us/bet/529/bitcoin-price-to-rise-above-200-before-the/ 350058;1381702733;ozbot;BitBet - Bitcoin price to rise above $200 before the end of 2013 350059;1381702782;zoinky;which exchange is that bet for 350060;1381702823;fractal;kako: wow. thats EASY MONEY! 350061;1381702833;fractal;i'm getting on that shit right now. free BTC. 350062;1381702838;kakobrekla;zoinky, mtgox, its in the link 350063;1381702842;fractal;lolz. what n00bz betting NO... idiots 350064;1381702873;turbo_ac100;o_O I just noticed http://bitbet.us/bet/555/difficulty-to-continue-increasing-by-over-20/ is ambiguous. "Each BTC network difficulty change as reported by gribble before the end of January 2014 will be an increase of more than 20% over the last. " 350065;1381702876;mircea_popescu;mtgox should be easier, they';ve always been higher. 350066;1381702887;mircea_popescu;turbo_ac100 what's the ambiguity ? 350067;1381702916;fractal;10BTC pays out 14 -- 40% , but 100BTC pays out 104 -- 4% . lol 350068;1381702922;zoinky;kakobrekla, i did a search for mtgox on the page and all i see is for another bet 350069;1381702934;fractal;and i have to wait 10 weeks.... i'm better off buying futures at ICBIT.se instead of making that gamble at BitBet!! 350070;1381702953;mircea_popescu;lol mkay. glwt. 350071;1381702966;turbo_ac100;"the last" doesn't refer to the last increase, i.e. 20% -> 24 % and so on but rather "the last" difficulty as in ;;diffchange will be > 20% 350072;1381702973;kakobrekla;and 1 btc pays 2 btc 350073;1381702979;jurov;fractal: you can buy the same calls on mpex 350074;1381703009;fractal;jurov: MPEX? you mean that useless site with ZERO volume because MP refuses to let new users join without paying 40BTC??? idiotic. 350075;1381703011;mircea_popescu;each [...] over the last. 350076;1381703018;mircea_popescu;seems fine. 350077;1381703022;fractal;no offence MP... 350078;1381703035;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00085465 = 5.0424 BTC [+] {2} 350079;1381703036;mircea_popescu;you are aware that the only people actually trading the exchange rate traded it there, yest. 350080;1381703042;fractal;but you'd make more money with no signup fees 350081;1381703044;mircea_popescu;for all your talk of doing w/e on random bucket shops. 350082;1381703080;jurov;fractal: there's a broker, you are kicking into open doors 350083;1381703084;fractal;ICBIT.se is legitimate and been up for 2 years, works great... and they're doing a lot of volume these days.... you'll eventually be surpassed unless you drop signup fees 350084;1381703090;turbo_ac100;mircea_popescu, so it's diffchange 20%, next diffchange will have to be 20%*1.2=24% and so on, right? 350085;1381703099;mircea_popescu;dude, you've been saying whatever for two years, get out. link or gtfo. 350086;1381703101;fractal;jurov: broker == default risk 350087;1381703137;jurov;what? you think coinbr is short and naked? 350088;1381703142;mircea_popescu;turbo_ac100 the diffs must follow the curve x, 1.2x, 1.44x, 1.728x etc 350089;1381703155;jurov;;;calc 20*1.2 350090;1381703156;gribble;24 350091;1381703159;jurov;;;calc 20*1.2*1.2 350092;1381703159;gribble;28.8 350093;1381703161;jurov;etc 350094;1381703165;fractal;[Oct 1 2012 01:52] hey guys, I think 2013 is the year of bitcoin, we'll probably hit $100, maybe $250. 350095;1381703169;fractal;^^ real logs 350096;1381703199;mircea_popescu;so two years in the oct 1 - oct 13 interval ? 350097;1381703212;turbo_ac100;meh. stupid bet... gonna have to cancel that... 350098;1381703233;arij;bitfunder, havelock, mpex, cryptostocks.. did i miss any 350099;1381703250;kakobrekla;well 350100;1381703252;fractal;MP, the fact that 1 year wasn't 2 years is just a trivial detail 350101;1381703257;kakobrekla;if you list cryptostocks you missed another 3 or so 350102;1381703263;arij;? 350103;1381703265;fractal;point is, i'm a genius.... we'll hit $250 by december 350104;1381703267;fractal;for sure 350105;1381703284;arij;thats all i got.. what are the others? 350106;1381703289;kakobrekla;theres like pico stocks and something 123.com chinese thingy or something and therock exchange 350107;1381703290;kakobrekla;maybe more 350108;1381703295;arij;ah pico 350109;1381703296;arij;thats right 350110;1381703319;mircea_popescu;;;google "hey guys, I think 2013 is the year of bitcoin, we'll probably hit $100, maybe $250" 350111;1381703320;gribble;Bitcoin Hits New Record, Crosses $250 | Zero Hedge: ; Hi. I am from the future. Thanks Bitcoin! : Bitcoin - Reddit: ; Bitcoin Exchange Scam – Bitcoins Are Now Worthless | NERDr.com: Apparently the people at Bitstamp aren't just thieves, they're incompetent too. If you signed up for API access back when they were using account passwords for API authentication (i.e. before "API keys") you can still withdraw your BTC via the "old" API from an unverified account. Not sure if this works for the new API too (never used it). 350212;1381717076;Kleeck_;Classy. 350213;1381717187;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.76000068 = 4.56 BTC [-] {4} 350214;1381717858;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.75070009 = 6.0056 BTC [-] {4} 350215;1381717980;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.00731 = 0.2193 BTC [+] 350216;1381720966;dub;;;ticker --market all 350217;1381720971;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD last: 149.89933, vol: 20208.85106376 | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 136.40, vol: 17746.10968874 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 130.55, vol: 5923.3344 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 136.7, vol: 3206.8885688 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 133.91, vol: 1091.19765252 | Volume-weighted last average: 141.306956913 350218;1381720993;kakobrekla;hm 350219;1381721035;dub;$250 by tuesday! 350220;1381721795;Namworld;No, that's not exaggerated enough. 350221;1381721797;Namworld;$2'500'000 by tuesday! 350222;1381721827;pankkake;to the moons! 350223;1381722494;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.73000221 = 1.46 BTC [-] 350224;1381722530;dub;;;asks 250 350225;1381722531;gribble;There are currently 27014.092 bitcoins offered at or under 250.0 USD, worth 4810231.56614 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0027 seconds 350226;1381722758;nubbins`;there's a 1000 BTC bid @ $130 on virtex right now, :0 350227;1381722817;pankkake;CAD? 350228;1381722824;nubbins`;yah 350229;1381722839;nubbins`;=125.4 USD 350230;1381722860;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.007 = 1.4 BTC [-] {2} 350231;1381722868;nubbins`;i don't think i've seen that size of a buy order before 350232;1381722893;pankkake;why do canadians use the $! they're worse than altcoins 350233;1381722975;pankkake;I guess the non-crash after silk road is making people more confident 350234;1381723011;nubbins`;who knows 350235;1381723036;nubbins`;i mistrust BTC > 100 USD 350236;1381723071;pankkake;hehe, me too. and since I only want to buy, I don't want it to go up that much :) 350237;1381723080;dub;because moosecock eh 350238;1381723102;nubbins`;i think the word "dollar" is german in origin 350239;1381723105;kakobrekla;id buy more 350240;1381723113;kakobrekla;but id need to sell btc for that in the first place 350241;1381723122;kakobrekla;so i wont 350242;1381723129;pankkake;lucky you 350243;1381723139;nubbins`;relax, it's everyone cashing out their AM profits 350244;1381723146;pankkake;well, I'm still richer in BTC 350245;1381723202;nubbins`;lel, "We're goin up! Is this due to the increase in volume in China? Natural steady growth?" 350246;1381723209;nubbins`;yep, natural steady growth 350247;1381723211;nubbins`;you got it 350248;1381723513;pankkake;so, anyone tried Kraken? 350249;1381723573;dub;yea, dude ran with my money 350250;1381723646;dub;or do you mean kraken 2.0 350251;1381723656;pankkake;kraken the exchange 350252;1381723678;pankkake;one of the few options to trade EUR 350253;1381723703;dub;yeah the one they named after the old scam one so they could ditch and blame it on harnett 350254;1381723716;dub;let me in on dat 350255;1381723750;pankkake;are they related in any way? 350256;1381723775;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 2674 @ 0.00116118 = 3.105 BTC [-] {4} 350257;1381723798;dub;presumably in the way that the new one is also a scam 350258;1381723812;pankkake;why? 350259;1381723827;nubbins`;because everything is a scam 350260;1381723836;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.7300022 = 1.46 BTC [-] 350261;1381723837;dub;otherwise you'd have expected them to change the name to one not already used by a scammer 350262;1381723860;nubbins`;i'm going to open an exchange called matthew n. wright 350263;1381723862;pankkake;meh 350264;1381723893;dub;my up coming exchange is called bitcoin savings and trust, catchy rite? 350265;1381723921;kakobrekla;im opening a buccaneer fund 350266;1381723922;nubbins`;is there any way i can buy shares in this exchange right now? 350267;1381723961;pankkake;anyway, I like their advanced market orders, I haven't seen that elsewhere 350268;1381724034;dub;theres two possibilities, they are so incredibly stupid that they dont recognize the brand damage or the ambiguity is intentional 350269;1381724038;kakobrekla;any normal trading platform has those pankkake 350270;1381724046;dub;either way, take my money 350271;1381724062;kakobrekla;dub i think you underestimate the forgetfulness of bitcointards 350272;1381724080;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 167 @ 0.0012 = 0.2004 BTC [+] 350273;1381724081;pankkake;I'm sure most people never heard of the first kraken 350274;1381724098;kakobrekla;the name always kraks me up 350275;1381724103;pankkake;;) 350276;1381724121;dub;third option is they are on krak 350277;1381724174;nubbins`;i'm always tempted to buy gold with btc when the price jumps up like this 350278;1381724241;kakobrekla;if you got enough btc you can go long on gold with teh btc 350279;1381724260;pankkake;that's my plan, buy btc, then buy gold along the way 350280;1381724278;pankkake;And I certainly don't want gold buys to show on my bank records anyway 350281;1381724300;kakobrekla;what i mean is go long with btc on fx 350282;1381724319;nubbins`;pankkake: collectible coins, sure 350283;1381724323;kakobrekla;but you need to have a bank for that 350284;1381724324;nubbins`;bullion, no 350285;1381724395;pankkake;nubbins`: could you elaborate? 350286;1381724413;nubbins`;well, maybe i should back up a step 350287;1381724422;nubbins`;why don't you want gold buys to show up on your bank records? 350288;1381724456;pankkake;don't want the tax man to show up at my house one day to ""buy"" them 350289;1381724507;nubbins`;i'm not sure i follow 350290;1381724606;nubbins`;you're saying you don't want your possession of gold to be known to the govt in case they demand that you surrender it to them? 350291;1381724613;pankkake;yes 350292;1381724634;dub;just refuse 350293;1381724650;dub;worst case is 3 meals and a rape chaser 350294;1381724652;pankkake;in my country it's already impossible to buy anonymously from legit stores 350295;1381724674;nubbins`;what country 350296;1381724676;pankkake;France 350297;1381724681;nubbins`;ah 350298;1381724699;nubbins`;lovely, there's a small french colony near here 350299;1381724727;nubbins`;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Pierre_and_Miquelon 350300;1381724736;pankkake;ooh, yes 350301;1381724782;Namworld;How is it impossible to buy anonymously? 350302;1381724783;pankkake;anyway, there are signs everywhere in the world of governments tracking gold purchases. I think some US states require identity proofs now 350303;1381724795;pankkake;Namworld: can't pay cash, have to provide ID card 350304;1381724806;Namworld;What the fuck... 350305;1381724824;nubbins`;but i mean 350306;1381724834;nubbins`;all that gold you bought, you sold again for cash 350307;1381724836;nubbins`;right? 350308;1381724853;pankkake;no, I'm keeping it for now 350309;1381724860;nubbins`;no, i'm the government 350310;1381724863;nubbins`;and now i have your gold 350311;1381724877;pankkake;oh, or I lost it in a boat accident? ;) 350312;1381724885;nubbins`;fell in a blender! who knows! 350313;1381724904;pankkake;sure. but if I can avoid them looking into me, all the better 350314;1381724921;nubbins`;well, i suppose so 350315;1381724936;Namworld;Oh, my gold? It was all eaten. I grind gold flakes out of my gold to decorate fancy meals for my guests. 350316;1381724945;pankkake;as we say, « vivons cachés, vivons heureux » (live hidden, live happy) 350317;1381724953;nubbins`;i wonder does that sort of thing happen often? i'm only aware of when the usa did it back in the 30s or whenever 350318;1381724958;dub;I like my shit to sparkle 350319;1381724979;pankkake;I think it was illegal to own gold at some times during WW2 in europe 350320;1381725028;Namworld;I require some unobtainium and an antigravity device for some project. Anyone may procure those? 350321;1381725091;dub;im still confused why it would matter if the govt took your gold 350322;1381725102;dub;at that point its not worth anything anyway 350323;1381725103;nubbins`;because then they'd have your gold! 350324;1381725115;pankkake;long term storage of value 350325;1381725128;pankkake;as in, 10-20+ years 350326;1381725133;dub;if its not legal to own it has no value 350327;1381725148;nubbins`;tell that to the pill dealers across the street 350328;1381725158;dub;beyond trading for ammo and wild turkey with other inbreeds notwithstanding 350329;1381725163;Namworld;You'd be surprised how little people care 350330;1381725165;pankkake;but it might be legal again 350331;1381725171;pankkake;or legal elsewhere 350332;1381725178;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.00201103 = 2.011 BTC [-] {5} 350333;1381725197;nubbins`;everyone still alive who gave the USG all their gold back in the 30s is probably pretty pissed off right now 350334;1381725202;dub;nubbins`: presumably pills are not a long term value store 350335;1381725228;nubbins`;dub: that was more in response to your not legal/no value assertion 350336;1381725252;nubbins`;illegality often drives up the value of items 350337;1381725291;dub;for a limited class of items 350338;1381725318;pankkake;indeed. when gold is made illegal, I'm sure people would have other concerns, like food 350339;1381725320;nubbins`;well, "illegal items that people desire" is itself a limited class 350340;1381725334;pankkake;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=49417.msg3333618#msg3333618 more KnC fail! 350341;1381725336;ozbot;[540 TH] BTC Guild - Pays TxFees, Stratum, MergedMining, Private Servers 350342;1381725347;nubbins`;but i hear what you're saying 350343;1381725361;dub;drugs would probably hold quite well actually 350344;1381725371;dub;I'd rather starve to death high 350345;1381725372;nubbins`;if the grocery store isn't going to take your gold for payment, you can have as much of it as you want 350346;1381725427;pankkake;for how much time can you store cigarettes (or other drugs)? 350347;1381725437;nubbins`;cigarettes go stale 350348;1381725451;nubbins`;but that doesn't really matter, depending on how badly you want one 350349;1381725467;pankkake;"Depending on the weather condition, cigarettes can go stale within 2 or 3 weeks after opening. If unopened, they can take more than one year and still be used without any harm." 350350;1381725481;nubbins`;most common drugs could be stored for a year or two, if done so correctly 350351;1381725495;pankkake;however my place can be quite humid 350352;1381725502;nubbins`;yeah, that's not great 350353;1381725508;pankkake;so far, I'm mostly storing food 350354;1381725531;nubbins`;storing food is common sense, it's amazing how few people do it 350355;1381725531;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 350356;1381725551;dub;I've got a weeks worth, plenty to get to my DR sites 350357;1381725559;pankkake;yes, especially people of my generation it seems (<30yo) 350358;1381725575;nubbins`;well, y'know. soft lives 350359;1381725578;pankkake;it already helped me a few times, like less revenue for a while 350360;1381725584;nubbins`;yep, agreed 350361;1381725614;dub;knowing how to hunt and grow shit is useful 350362;1381725626;nubbins`;i started learning to grow food this year 350363;1381725646;nubbins`;potatoes, peas, tomatoes, spinach, broccoli, onion 350364;1381725658;pankkake;my mother does… and the stuff is delicious 350365;1381725662;kakobrekla;dub is saying hunt bitchez and grow ganja 350366;1381725674;nubbins`;also useful skills 350367;1381725689;dub;I have a vege garden and a bunch of seeds 350368;1381725714;dub;also land a few days walk away wit more extensive gardens 350369;1381725716;kakobrekla;no sensimilla? 350370;1381725724;dub;pigs, chickens, cows 350371;1381725750;pankkake;nice 350372;1381725763;pankkake;I live in a city, so not for me :/ 350373;1381725788;nubbins`;i have a neighbour who had chickens, the city made him stop 350374;1381725792;pankkake;though we have a small garden… it doesn't get much light so not sure it would work 350375;1381725793;dub;being on an island helps, I could feed hundreds with a few hours on the sea every day 350376;1381725805;kakobrekla;i live in a country with most tractors per capita, i cant get away from farms basically 350377;1381725812;nubbins`;pros and cons to being on an island 350378;1381725830;nubbins`;supply chain is very vulnerable 350379;1381725855;dub;what do I need that I cant kill or grow? 350380;1381725879;pankkake;medicine 350381;1381725882;kakobrekla;internets 350382;1381725904;nubbins`;pizza rolls 350383;1381726000;dub;I can swap food for pr0n, no need for internets 350384;1381726029;nubbins`;well, a life that only includes needs is pretty grim 350385;1381726035;nubbins`;you're gonna want some wants 350386;1381726035;pankkake;I have a few TBs of porn, I can live without 350387;1381726041;dub;got somegood books on medicinal plants and shit 350388;1381726062;nubbins`;protip: marijuana cures cancer 350389;1381726080;dub;I'm very well qualified to grow weed 350390;1381726099;nubbins`;i suspect a LOT of people into btc are preppers 350391;1381726116;dub;not me 350392;1381726116;kakobrekla;yeah a lot of nuts. 350393;1381726121;pankkake;indeed 350394;1381726125;nubbins`;kinda like gold/silver stackers 350395;1381726126;pankkake;nuts are delicious 350396;1381726127;nubbins`;lotta nuts 350397;1381726150;kakobrekla;and they last long in a prepper scenario 350398;1381726154;nubbins`;cashews are best 350399;1381726158;nubbins`;very delicious 350400;1381726168;nubbins`;and only nuts in the culinary sense, so nobody's allergic 350401;1381726176;dub;I basically in a volcano on active seismic fields 350402;1381726186;dub;live in* 350403;1381726211;dub;a lot of people here have emergency supplies 350404;1381726211;kakobrekla;yeha keep your enemies close 350405;1381727008;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 500 @ 0.0012 = 0.6 BTC [+] 350406;1381727557;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.79999997 = 4.8 BTC [+] {2} 350407;1381727645;nubbins`;bed time 350408;1381727679;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 16 @ 0.00736937 = 0.1179 BTC [+] {2} 350409;1381727740;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 32 @ 0.0075753 = 0.2424 BTC [+] {2} 350410;1381727801;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.00768316 = 0.2305 BTC [+] {2} 350411;1381727802;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.42011099 BTC [-] 350412;1381730995;Vexual;how do gents 350413;1381731034;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 35 @ 0.70368581 = 24.629 BTC [-] {9} 350414;1381731035;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.0069 = 0.1725 BTC [-] 350415;1381731400;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 126 @ 0.00670638 = 0.845 BTC [-] {6} 350416;1381733291;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 30 @ 0.05166666 = 1.55 BTC [+] {3} 350417;1381733352;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 66 @ 0.05001515 = 3.301 BTC [-] {3} 350418;1381733779;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 250 @ 0.0011516 = 0.2879 BTC [-] {2} 350419;1381734023;assbot;[MPEX] [O] [O.USD.C125T] 1 @ 0.3 BTC [+] 350420;1381734694;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.0011511 = 0.1151 BTC [-] 350421;1381735304;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.42011099 BTC [-] 350422;1381735792;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.42011099 BTC [-] 350423;1381737317;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 0.07299989 = 0.146 BTC [+] 350424;1381738354;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 510 @ 0.00073998 = 0.3774 BTC [-] {3} 350425;1381740733;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 2850 @ 0.0004 = 1.14 BTC [-] 350426;1381741221;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00084967 = 3.9934 BTC [+] {2} 350427;1381743111;dub;;;nethash 350428;1381743112;gribble;2172186.21189 350429;1381743299;dub;;;estimate 350430;1381743300;gribble;Next difficulty estimate | 250661165.864 based on data since last change | 303446278.016 based on data for last three days 350431;1381743312;dub;;;bc,stats 350432;1381743315;gribble;Current Blocks: 263562 | Current Difficulty: 1.8928124928103292E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 264095 | Next Difficulty In: 533 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 5 hours, 18 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 250661165.864 | Estimated Percent Change: 32.42789 350433;1381745682;jurov;;;bc,stats 350434;1381745685;gribble;Current Blocks: 263566 | Current Difficulty: 1.8928124928103292E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 264095 | Next Difficulty In: 529 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 6 hours, 29 minutes, and 21 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 250173034.442 | Estimated Percent Change: 32.17 350435;1381745918;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.7 = 2.1 BTC [-] 350436;1381747016;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.7 BTC [-] 350437;1381747382;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.69000001 BTC [-] 350438;1381747748;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.69000001 BTC [-] 350439;1381748114;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.69000001 = 1.38 BTC [-] 350440;1381748602;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.69000001 = 1.38 BTC [-] 350441;1381748786;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.69000001 BTC [-] 350442;1381748897;bitesak;;;avg price 350443;1381748897;gribble;Error: "avg" is not a valid command. 350444;1381748958;bitesak;;;ticker 350445;1381748958;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 152.00576, Best ask: 152.49995, Bid-ask spread: 0.49419, Last trade: 152.00000, 24 hour volume: 31063.95478779, 24 hour low: 143.10000, 24 hour high: 153.69902, 24 hour vwap: 148.48608 350446;1381748976;bitesak;;;next 350447;1381748976;gribble;See latest update from Onefixt here: https://twitter.com/BitcoinOracle/ 350448;1381749029;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.69 = 1.38 BTC [-] 350449;1381749212;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.69 = 1.38 BTC [-] 350450;1381749548;bitesak;based on current bids for s.Nsa, based on the 1% minimum, it's a go ! 350451;1381749761;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.6825 = 2.73 BTC [-] {2} 350452;1381750752;dexX7;;;seen ThickAsThieves 350453;1381750752;gribble;ThickAsThieves was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 18 hours, 53 minutes, and 44 seconds ago: dat PMB 350454;1381750798;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.670001 = 1.34 BTC [-] 350455;1381750859;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 945 @ 0.00084948 = 0.8028 BTC [-] 350456;1381750981;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.66202 = 1.9861 BTC [-] 350457;1381751042;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.662 BTC [-] 350458;1381751306;mircea_popescu;bitesak yeah 350459;1381751626;dexX7;what is s.nsa anyway? i have a vague impression, but that's solely based on the description of that gpg-token 350460;1381751856;bitesak;http://trilema.com/snsa-first-product-the-cardano did you read that already? 350461;1381751857;ozbot;S.NSA first product - The Cardano pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 350462;1381751910;dexX7;> based on the description of that gpg-token 350463;1381751919;dexX7;yup, i did 350464;1381751927;dexX7;and i saw the contract on mpex 350465;1381751967;dexX7;i was just wondering, if there is a document somewhere with more details :) 350466;1381752018;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69348300 BTC to 1`386`966 shares, 50 satoshi per share 350467;1381752103;bitesak;I am all for more understanding, I guess you can list your questions if any? 350468;1381752164;dexX7;i have no specific question at the moment 350469;1381752334;bitesak;i see it as the first physical product made through and thanks to bitcoin, other than Bitcoin coins and Tshirt branded stuff I guess. 350470;1381752437;dexX7;are you an investor or "involved"? 350471;1381752567;bitesak;nope, I am considering it though and interested in purchasing a few for christmas :) 350472;1381752608;dexX7;ah i see.. yes, the gpg-token sounds like a really neat object 350473;1381752631;gecko_x2;this is interesting 350474;1381752641;gecko_x2;is it MP's own design? 350475;1381752645;bitesak;I'll probably start with one, test it and do my best to understand it and use it as a means to promote use of GPG among friends and girlfriends 350476;1381752862;mircea_popescu;bitesak well, miners are more ocmplex products 350477;1381752885;mircea_popescu;gecko_x2 not in any significant degree. asciilifeform is the tech there. 350478;1381752940;bitesak;mircea_popescu, I wanted to refer to Casascius Bitcoins for the coins 350479;1381752963;mircea_popescu;a 350480;1381753055;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.66200001 = 1.324 BTC [+] 350481;1381753080;gecko_x2;mp, ok thx 350482;1381753103;gecko_x2;yea GPG key management was always the issue 350483;1381753119;gecko_x2;i remember playing with centralized key servers back in the days 350484;1381753143;gecko_x2;there's just no way a normal joe sixpack can do that 350485;1381753158;gecko_x2;irl 350486;1381753177;gecko_x2;anyways 350487;1381753198;gecko_x2;i don't even think gpg keys are the future 350488;1381753215;gecko_x2;there is one thing that hasn't been mentioned at all after the snowden case 350489;1381753231;gecko_x2;one thing that the NSA is totally defenceless against 350490;1381753252;gecko_x2;currently only used in online banking 350491;1381753261;gecko_x2;and that's OTP 350492;1381753278;gecko_x2;that's the way messages was delivered during WW2 350493;1381753282;gecko_x2;and it fucking works 350494;1381753310;gecko_x2;i think that a single static key as a concept is pretty much dead 350495;1381753335;gecko_x2;except maybe for initially sharing the actual OTP 350496;1381753440;mircea_popescu;believe me, it's been mentioned. 350497;1381753458;gecko_x2;not enough 350498;1381753461;mircea_popescu;asymmetric keys are a much better solution for poor people, however 350499;1381753471;mircea_popescu;because poor people can not afford to move otp keys around safely. 350500;1381753486;gecko_x2;hmm 350501;1381753554;mircea_popescu;meanwhile, properly implemented pgp is still uncrackable. 350502;1381753560;gecko_x2;yes 350503;1381753604;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.663 = 1.989 BTC [+] 350504;1381753616;gecko_x2;there is one new concept that the blockchain would make theoretically possible too 350505;1381753631;gecko_x2;time-release encryption 350506;1381753657;mircea_popescu;there was a start-up last year to do this 350507;1381753659;mircea_popescu;nothing came of it. 350508;1381753710;gecko_x2;the blockchain could be used so that a key to a piece of data would be split into say 100000 pieces 350509;1381753724;gecko_x2;51% of those pieces would be needed to decrypt 350510;1381753846;gecko_x2;anyways 350511;1381753873;gecko_x2;it's a very interesting concept, if you think about encrypting contracts, testimonies, wills etc 350512;1381753931;dexX7;hmm.. but isn't the collection of pointers to the parts more or less similar to passwords or a key? 350513;1381753963;gecko_x2;the incentive not to release the key early would be monetary 350514;1381753980;gecko_x2;let's say you encrypt 'hello world', for 1 month 350515;1381754002;gecko_x2;you have an altcur, called 'timecoin' 350516;1381754014;dexX7;okay 350517;1381754036;gecko_x2;you have say 1 second coins, 1 minute coins and 1 hour coins 350518;1381754075;gecko_x2;you combine them to make up a month 350519;1381754092;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.663 BTC [+] 350520;1381754112;gecko_x2;ppl have clients where they can trade all these coins 350521;1381754119;dexX7;yup 350522;1381754132;gecko_x2;say there is the amount of one second coins to make up 100 years 350523;1381754137;gecko_x2;same with minutes 350524;1381754140;gecko_x2;same with hours 350525;1381754160;gecko_x2;you encrypt the message, and the keys are freely traded globally 350526;1381754184;gecko_x2;ppl have clients which holds fractional pieces of all time encrypted data 350527;1381754190;gecko_x2;just fractions 350528;1381754223;gecko_x2;the value of the coins can only be released after a message is decrypted at the expected time, no sooner 350529;1381754251;gecko_x2;should 51% of the holders of these anonymous timecoins decide to all release them ahead of time, they would become worthless 350530;1381754275;gecko_x2;something like that 350531;1381754285;gecko_x2;i'm not smart enough to fully figure it out 350532;1381754299;gecko_x2;so you would have on your pc a client software 350533;1381754309;gecko_x2;with a portfolio of time encrypted data 350534;1381754340;gecko_x2;and as the 1 month encrypted data, when it's time to decrypt 350535;1381754350;gecko_x2;the client would automatically do it for you 350536;1381754368;gecko_x2;so you could trade unknown future secrets 350537;1381754378;gecko_x2;the speculation would be rampant 350538;1381754392;dexX7;lol 350539;1381754422;dexX7;i don't think i fully get it 350540;1381754446;gecko_x2;well 350541;1381754466;gecko_x2;it's hard to explain 350542;1381754501;gecko_x2;there is an old post about the concept 350543;1381754501;gecko_x2;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=248466.0 350544;1381754503;ozbot;Time-release encryption using Bitcoin? 350545;1381754507;gecko_x2;yeah 350546;1381754510;gecko_x2;er 350547;1381754513;dexX7;ah ty 350548;1381754546;gecko_x2;but this post doesn't mention coins as i'm thinking 350549;1381754553;gecko_x2;i'm thinking you make 3 altcoins 350550;1381754558;gecko_x2;seconds, minutes, hours 350551;1381754577;gecko_x2;to make up for let's say 500 years 350552;1381754594;gecko_x2;i dunno should there be 500 years combined, or 500 years of each 350553;1381754616;gecko_x2;i'm not smart enough :p 350554;1381754689;gecko_x2;but each holder would only have a fraction of the future secret 350555;1381754705;gecko_x2;say george soros want to encrypt something to be released 50 years after his death 350556;1381754720;dexX7;is it like.. "when 2030030 second coins are mined, it's xxx date, time"? 350557;1381754725;gecko_x2;fractions of keys to that data would be traded just like altcur's currently 350558;1381754731;gecko_x2;yeah 350559;1381754767;gecko_x2;combined with the fact that there is no incentive for all the hundreds of thousands of holders of the fractional keys to release them all ahead of time 350560;1381754822;gecko_x2;they might not even know what this or that fractional key is really hiding 350561;1381754825;gecko_x2;until the due date 350562;1381754834;gecko_x2;man the speculation would be awesome 350563;1381754867;gecko_x2;like 'i have 350 1 second keys holding soros's secret' 350564;1381754883;gecko_x2;and they are trading 2500% above initial value :p 350565;1381754889;dexX7;xD 350566;1381754898;gecko_x2;because ppl think the secret is gonna be worth millions 350567;1381754919;gecko_x2;and ofcourse, once the secret is released, the holders of the keys get to see it first 350568;1381754928;gecko_x2;before the global press etc 350569;1381756472;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 13 @ 0.66223078 = 8.609 BTC [-] {3} 350570;1381756643;bitesak;;;ticker 350571;1381756644;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 151.00000, Best ask: 151.41001, Bid-ask spread: 0.41001, Last trade: 151.00000, 24 hour volume: 33087.00526892, 24 hour low: 143.10000, 24 hour high: 153.69902, 24 hour vwap: 148.83173 350572;1381756840;bitesak;!ticker s.mpoe 350573;1381756840;assbot;How can I be of assistance, my poor man? 350574;1381756864;bitesak;;;ticker s.mpoe 350575;1381756865;gribble;(ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market |all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Mtgox. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure the code (1 more message) 350576;1381757288;mircea_popescu;$vwap s.mpoe 350577;1381757289;mpexbot;mircea_popescu: S.MPOE 1 day: average: 0.00085005 high: 0.0008576 low: 0.00084444 volume: 42500 btc: 36.12705707 7 day: average: 0.00084643 high: 0.00085779 low: 0.00083547 volume: 912159 btc: 772.07450746 30 day: average: 0.00089086 high: 0.00094307 low: 0.0007725 volume: 4521469 btc: 4027.99396016 350578;1381759271;bitesak;thanks mp, was reading on of your articles on MPOE evaluation and tried the !ticker command 350579;1381759305;bitesak;just discovered the The list of discontinued assets on MPEx page ! 350580;1381759543;mircea_popescu;:p 350581;1381759549;mircea_popescu;!ticker m s.bbet 350582;1381759550;assbot;[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00050025 / 0.0005293 / 0.00059999 (7055 shares, 3.73 BTC), 30D: 0.0005 / 0.00054634 / 0.00059999 (43300 shares, 23.66 BTC) 350583;1381759974;dexX7;;;nethash 350584;1381759975;gribble;2217153.74554 350585;1381759990;dexX7;;;diffchange 350586;1381759991;gribble;Estimated percent change in difficulty this period | 33.36436 % based on data since last change | 63.63379 % based on data for last three days 350587;1381760176;arij_;that diff 350588;1381760558;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3888 @ 0.0002479 = 0.9638 BTC [-] 350589;1381760741;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 30 @ 0.65974999 = 19.7925 BTC [-] {7} 350590;1381760858;ThickAsThieves;;;bcstats 350591;1381760860;gribble;Current Blocks: 263611 | Current Difficulty: 1.8928124928103292E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 264095 | Next Difficulty In: 484 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 23 hours, 36 minutes, and 23 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 252338232.77 | Estimated Percent Change: 33.31391 350592;1381760941;dexX7;hey tat, assuming havelock closes it's door to us issuers, too. what would you do then? 350593;1381761502;ThickAsThieves;we have contigency plans in place 350594;1381761525;ThickAsThieves;contingency* 350595;1381762510;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 39 @ 0.006287 = 0.2452 BTC [-] 350596;1381763143;dexX7;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=310282.msg3317569 another "signature based auth/login system" 350597;1381763145;ozbot;SQRL: revolutionizes web site login and authentication 350598;1381763178;frank3;hi guys 350599;1381763730;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.10293331 = 0.3088 BTC [+] {3} 350600;1381764012;ThickAsThieves;http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/14/4836778/canadian-government-we-want-to-unbundle-television-channels 350601;1381764013;ozbot;Canadian government: 'We want to unbundle television channels' | The Verge 350602;1381764029;ThickAsThieves;canada keep being the anti-US plz 350603;1381765368;nubbins`;canadian government is acting really, really strangely lately 350604;1381765377;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SMG] 14052 @ 0.00017036 = 2.3939 BTC [-] {14} 350605;1381765378;nubbins`;like, suspiciously consumer-friendly 350606;1381765804;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.006111 = 0.6111 BTC [-] {5} 350607;1381766109;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.65752 = 3.2876 BTC [-] {3} 350608;1381766110;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 148 @ 0.00611005 = 0.9043 BTC [-] {4} 350609;1381766170;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 54 @ 0.00611005 = 0.3299 BTC [-] 350610;1381766536;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 85 @ 0.001199 = 0.1019 BTC [-] 350611;1381768000;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.70999999 BTC [+] 350612;1381768061;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 6 @ 0.04500167 = 0.27 BTC [-] {2} 350613;1381768244;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.71 = 4.26 BTC [+] {2} 350614;1381769159;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MG] 13600 @ 0.00018 = 2.448 BTC [-] {2} 350615;1381771050;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 850 @ 0.00043798 = 0.3723 BTC [+] {4} 350616;1381771843;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.00084656 = 6.5185 BTC [-] {2} 350617;1381773849;mircea_popescu;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4eCqcXjlX4 350618;1381773849;ozbot;Au demolat-o - YouTube 350619;1381773855;mircea_popescu;romanian expert techniques. 350620;1381774222;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.00645 = 1.29 BTC [-] 350621;1381777394;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 28 @ 0.0065 = 0.182 BTC [+] 350622;1381778675;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 5000 @ 0.00116222 = 5.8111 BTC [-] {2} 350623;1381779285;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 42 @ 0.00645228 = 0.271 BTC [-] {3} 350624;1381779651;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.71898988 = 2.876 BTC [+] {2} 350625;1381779712;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 192 @ 0.00679972 = 1.3055 BTC [+] {2} 350626;1381781115;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 122 @ 0.00116151 = 0.1417 BTC [-] 350627;1381781176;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 26 @ 0.0069999 = 0.182 BTC [+] 350628;1381781549;kleeck;.d 350629;1381781549;ozbot;189281249.28103 | Next Diff in 425 blocks | Estimated Change: 34.1303% in 1d 22h 27m 50s 350630;1381783949;bob_;;;24hprc 350631;1381783949;gribble;Error: "24hprc" is not a valid command. 350632;1381783983;bob_;;;bc,24hprc 350633;1381783984;gribble;142.87 350634;1381784836;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.7 BTC [-] 350635;1381785120;bob_;mircea_popescu: so tomorrow there will basically be a sell order for 100m s.nsa at 0.0001 that will stay up until the 20th and then be removed? 350636;1381785406;mircea_popescu;pretty much 350637;1381785934;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.73249999 = 7.325 BTC [+] {5} 350638;1381786971;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 7 @ 0.06398 = 0.4479 BTC [+] 350639;1381787215;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 7 @ 0.06398 = 0.4479 BTC [+] 350640;1381787581;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 85 @ 0.05 = 4.25 BTC [-] 350641;1381787764;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 0.06398999 = 0.256 BTC [+] 350642;1381788923;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 59 @ 0.00697 = 0.4112 BTC [-] 350643;1381789472;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 747 @ 0.00119998 = 0.8964 BTC [+] {3} 350644;1381790204;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 150 @ 0.00699999 = 1.05 BTC [+] {2} 350645;1381790205;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.42 = 1.26 BTC [-] 350646;1381790326;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.42 = 0.84 BTC [-] 350647;1381790327;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 150 @ 0.007 = 1.05 BTC [+] 350648;1381790387;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.42 BTC [-] 350649;1381791316;mircea_popescu;http://bitbet.us/bet/519/btc-network-difficulty-to-top-1b-before-2014/ 350650;1381791318;ozbot;BitBet - BTC network difficulty to top 1B before 2014 350651;1381791318;mircea_popescu;sorta even odds. 350652;1381791335;mircea_popescu;what's asicminer worth at 1bn diff ? 350653;1381791430;ThickAsThieves;42 350654;1381791515;mircea_popescu;for that matter how many hashes is 1bn 350655;1381791538;nubbins`;42 350656;1381791541;mircea_popescu;http://bitcoin.sipa.be/speed-lin-ever.png 350657;1381791544;mircea_popescu;heh. look at THAT 350658;1381791561;mircea_popescu;i recall the days when there were ups and down, those bumps you can barely see now 350659;1381791590;nubbins`;that's quite the graph 350660;1381791598;mircea_popescu;so 1bn diff is like 7peta hash/s 350661;1381791639;ThickAsThieves;people will still be mining with block erupters 350662;1381791706;mircea_popescu;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TOP500 350663;1381791715;mircea_popescu;the fastest computer in the world does like 33tflops 350664;1381791724;mircea_popescu;there's what, like 7 flops to the hash ? 350665;1381791758;mircea_popescu;basically bitcoin is currently drinking more computing power than all the rest of the computing world combined or some shit. 350666;1381791767;ThickAsThieves;so when can the nethash start cracking into bank accounts? 350667;1381791781;nubbins`;42 350668;1381791782;nubbins`;(hours) 350669;1381791801;mircea_popescu;i suppose this is the part us "regulators" will have to figure out soon enough : 350670;1381791817;mircea_popescu;don't piss off btc or else you may not have two codes left standing together. 350671;1381793132;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 16 @ 0.00697 = 0.1115 BTC [-] 350672;1381793133;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 30 @ 0.06398999 = 1.9197 BTC [+] 350673;1381793681;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 12639 @ 0.00020643 = 2.6091 BTC [-] {4} 350674;1381793742;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2951 @ 0.00019662 = 0.5802 BTC [-] {5} 350675;1381793864;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 15540 @ 0.00018095 = 2.812 BTC [-] {8} 350676;1381793925;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 337 @ 0.0022 = 0.7414 BTC [+] {2} 350677;1381794413;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.703 BTC [-] 350678;1381795612;nubbins`;http://op-co.de/blog/posts/android_ssl_downgrade/ 350679;1381795613;ozbot;Why Android SSL was downgraded from AES256-SHA to RC4-MD5 in late 2010 350680;1381796129;kakobrekla;http://cmd.fm/ 350681;1381796132;kakobrekla;this is cool 350682;1381796853;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 231 @ 0.00692115 = 1.5988 BTC [+] {5} 350683;1381796914;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 66 @ 0.00699989 = 0.462 BTC [+] {2} 350684;1381796915;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5000 @ 0.000181 = 0.905 BTC [+] 350685;1381798439;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 181 @ 0.00674767 = 1.2213 BTC [-] {5} 350686;1381798744;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 257 @ 0.00677096 = 1.7401 BTC [+] {2} 350687;1381799110;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 93 @ 0.0068 = 0.6324 BTC [+] 350688;1381799720;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.000844 = 3.798 BTC [-] 350689;1381801550;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 36 @ 0.00670001 = 0.2412 BTC [-] 350690;1381802282;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2150 @ 0.00084398 = 1.8146 BTC [-] {2} 350691;1381803014;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 28 @ 0.00671001 = 0.1879 BTC [+] 350692;1381804546;kakobrekla;when kraken fund went bust http://25.media.tumblr.com/9dcbfb570e27476b56d967de85d75488/tumblr_mk2vczTeQg1ql2603o1_500.gif 350693;1381804634;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjvCPfrXEsI 350694;1381804635;ozbot;Gargoyle - Drown - YouTube 350695;1381805370;kakobrekla;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=310523.0 350696;1381805371;ozbot;A web-wallet operator willing to betray his users 350697;1381805393;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 15 @ 0.05 = 0.75 BTC [-] 350698;1381805759;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 354 @ 0.00229002 = 0.8107 BTC [+] {3} 350699;1381807008;Vexual;0 users affected 350700;1381807441;kakobrekla;i thought it was a bit funny, taaki quoting mpoe-pr now 350701;1381807473;Vexual;is it impossible to have a bitcoin daemon serveice where the user retains any instance of the private keys? 350702;1381807491;Vexual;without the blockchain 350703;1381807501;kakobrekla;hm? 350704;1381807506;Vexual;on the user device 350705;1381807519;kakobrekla;im sure wallets allow you to dump priv key? 350706;1381807541;Vexual;yes, but imagine a web sevice where they never see they privkey 350707;1381807544;Vexual;is it possible? 350708;1381807569;kakobrekla;you take that feature away and voila? 350709;1381807592;Vexual;user has private key. service provides blockchain 350710;1381807647;kakobrekla;dunno if theres such implementation online atm but its possible 350711;1381807670;kakobrekla;js or whatever client to sign the txes and use external service to relay them 350712;1381807681;kakobrekla;i think some services allow you to rely a tx 350713;1381807702;kakobrekla;and others to craft your own tx 350714;1381808071;Vexual;a lite node? 350715;1381808173;kakobrekla;hm? 350716;1381808186;kakobrekla;you dont need a node 350717;1381808202;Vexual;why do i need to blockchain to make a tx if i rely on miners anyway? 350718;1381808227;kakobrekla;to know whats on teh priv key 350719;1381808289;Vexual;an online service could say yes 350720;1381808304;Vexual;and the miner puts it in stone 350721;1381808432;Vexual;i need the blockchain to sign? 350722;1381808462;kakobrekla;technically, no 350723;1381808533;Vexual;there must be something im missing, i don't even fully understand bitcoin when im sober, im not too proud to say 350724;1381808615;kakobrekla;https://coinb.in/send-raw-transaction.html 350725;1381808616;ozbot;Send a Raw Bitcoin Transaction via Coinbin 350726;1381808630;kakobrekla;https://coinb.in/create-raw-transaction.html 350727;1381808638;ozbot;Create a Raw Bitcoin Transaction via Coinbin 350728;1381808646;Vexual;never heard of coinbin 350729;1381808738;kakobrekla;well it does what you are saying 350730;1381808743;kakobrekla;more tech stuff here https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Raw_Transactions 350731;1381808781;Vexual;yeah so it's possible 350732;1381808803;kakobrekla;i said so at the begining. 350733;1381808835;Vexual;yes 350734;1381808871;Vexual;i wasnt sure if i was being retarded 350735;1381809143;Vexual;it seems a 1 in 6 miner could provide a service like this with benefits and an isos app for the designer handbag set, with a nfc standard. 350736;1381809196;Vexual;how many pools are there these days? 350737;1381809202;kakobrekla;oh lol 350738;1381809203;kakobrekla;http://shrani.si/f/2T/My/3FdlPJ3L/predictious.png 350739;1381809225;kakobrekla;your attention to detail Luke-Jr, admirable 350740;1381809229;Vexual;thats not even a word 350741;1381809311;Vexual;its a nfc not an nfc, just like its mouses not mices 350742;1381809378;kakobrekla;Vexual 350743;1381809379;kakobrekla;http://bitcoincharts.com/ 350744;1381809379;ozbot;Bitcoin Charts 350745;1381809385;kakobrekla;see hashrate distribution 350746;1381809398;kakobrekla;and laern to google! 350747;1381809400;kakobrekla;:> 350748;1381809446;Vexual;maybe 13 350749;1381809490;Vexual;we both know it's not many 350750;1381809534;Vexual;and luke jr would have a lot less without the bots 350751;1381809554;kakobrekla;asicminer is tiny compared to ghash and ghash is basically fury only 350752;1381809564;Vexual;ghash fuckin owns 350753;1381809573;kakobrekla;im there yea 350754;1381809581;Vexual;how much you got? 350755;1381809604;Vexual;more than 1 less than 1000? 350756;1381809608;kakobrekla;not enough i guess hehe 350757;1381809677;nubbins`;man, i forgot how much i like using a wacom tablet 350758;1381809779;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGpa2r_jN6s 350759;1381809779;ozbot;Tricky - Brand New You're Retro - Maxinquaye(1995) - YouTube 350760;1381809831;Vexual;was bitfury kgb funded? 350761;1381809862;Vexual;ive stopped making fake emails for signup ghs's lest i dissappear in the night 350762;1381810334;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.72 BTC [+] 350763;1381810489;Vexual;i wonder how long friedcat will sit on his development fund 350764;1381810510;Vexual;stroking his whispy beard 350765;1381810728;Vexual;id be doing the same 350766;1381810789;Vexual;that guy has made all the right moves 350767;1381810819;Vexual;one couldnt do better with retrospect 350768;1381810944;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.00084408 = 6.2462 BTC [+] {2} 350769;1381810964;nubbins`;retrospect 350770;1381810967;nubbins`;reverso-vision 350771;1381811002;Vexual;feelins 350772;1381811040;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1sFOAmp9Yw 350773;1381811040;ozbot;"Be Sincere" music video MJ Cole - YouTube 350774;1381811234;Vexual;i hope firedcat is still making his own decisions 350775;1381811761;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTcP9lK9zTM 350776;1381811762;ozbot;Seeed - Papa Noah - YouTube 350777;1381811961;dub;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwvazMc5EfE 350778;1381811961;ozbot;Slim Dusty - Waltzing Matilda - YouTube 350779;1381812031;Vexual;are you an aussie dub? 350780;1381813196;Vexual;next time you feel like joking about sending a hitman to me, think again 350781;1381813263;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4044 @ 0.00084498 = 3.4171 BTC [+] {2} 350782;1381813323;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 156 @ 0.00084715 = 0.1322 BTC [+] 350783;1381813493;Vexual;dub 350784;1381813628;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 102 @ 0.00702816 = 0.7169 BTC [+] {4} 350785;1381813689;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.7259 BTC [+] 350786;1381813750;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 103 @ 0.007039 = 0.725 BTC [+] 350787;1381814273;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4RKN0Wwc3I 350788;1381814274;ozbot;MAD PROFESSOR - SCHIZOPHRENIC DUB.wmv - YouTube 350789;1381814629;dub;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrkThaBWa5c 350790;1381814630;ozbot;Tom Waits Waltzing Matilda live 1977 - YouTube 350791;1381814726;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7250 @ 0.00084715 = 6.1418 BTC [+] 350792;1381814809;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVJXbM_atpc 350793;1381814809;ozbot;Lee "Scratch" Perry - Maxi Merlin - YouTube 350794;1381814907;nubbins`;tom waits 350795;1381814974;Vexual;vex waits 350796;1381815125;nubbins`;time waits for no man 350797;1381815155;Vexual;tom waits for no man 350798;1381815200;Vexual;are yuo saying i should seek revenge on dub injecting sulphuric acid into shinbones along the way to get the info i need? 350799;1381815269;Vexual;nubbins you are so wise 350800;1381815275;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 223 @ 0.00243799 = 0.5437 BTC [+] {2} 350801;1381815336;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 123 @ 0.00243799 = 0.2999 BTC [+] 350802;1381815398;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.73289999 = 2.9316 BTC [+] 350803;1381815510;Vexual;i hold threats of death and torture for info to be abhorrent 350804;1381815519;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 15 @ 0.007039 = 0.1056 BTC [+] 350805;1381815560;Vexual;insider tading is a free market and is not immoral 350806;1381815580;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 137 @ 0.0070999 = 0.9727 BTC [+] {2} 350807;1381815603;Vexual;information is a weapon against violence 350808;1381815616;Vexual;its the new lcd 350809;1381815664;nubbins`;beer on sale tonight? 350810;1381815864;Vexual;yes 350811;1381815885;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.747175 = 2.9887 BTC [+] {2} 350812;1381816020;Vexual;everyone talks when they smell their marrow turning into smoke 350813;1381816134;Vexual;then they make you think water driping on your head is the evil they get info with 350814;1381816434;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3552 @ 0.00084422 = 2.9987 BTC [-] 350815;1381816556;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.72100001 BTC [-] 350816;1381816696;Vexual;http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2473/4036894230_1ae7446709.jpg 350817;1381816858;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TecR_5-rQ4U 350818;1381816859;ozbot;Dirty Cash(Money Talks) - YouTube 350819;1381817528;Vexual;lol smidge fund and exit message 350820;1381817618;Vexual;(Quit: sorry, but you've mistaken me for someone who gives a fuck...() 350821;1381818616;Vexual;http://cdn01.cdn.justjared.com/wp-content/uploads/headlines/2008/01/demi-moore-v-magazine-bubble.jpg 350822;1381818630;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.769 = 1.538 BTC [+] 350823;1381818813;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 353 @ 0.00246928 = 0.8717 BTC [+] {2} 350824;1381818935;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00084559 = 2.1985 BTC [+] 350825;1381819240;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 160 @ 0.002489 = 0.3982 BTC [+] 350826;1381819362;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 29 @ 0.00709881 = 0.2059 BTC [-] 350827;1381819911;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 132 @ 0.00119998 = 0.1584 BTC [+] 350828;1381820765;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.77 = 1.54 BTC [+] 350829;1381820816;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5H9-nn89yM 350830;1381820817;ozbot;Rodney Rude - Mcdonalds - YouTube 350831;1381821009;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6333 @ 0.00084745 = 5.3669 BTC [+] {3} 350832;1381822473;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 664 @ 0.00084507 = 0.5611 BTC [-] {2} 350833;1381823003;dub;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl-YI44XYjI 350834;1381823003;ozbot;Rolf Harris :: Waltzing Matilda (with lyrics and explanation of them) - YouTube 350835;1381823136;mod6;wth 350836;1381823210;Vexual;dub is insinuating that he know something about the dissapearance of madeline mccann 350837;1381823266;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 306 @ 0.002489 = 0.7616 BTC [+] 350838;1381823366;Vexual;now dub logs out and starts deleting jpegs 350839;1381823510;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.0008424 = 2.3587 BTC [-] {2} 350840;1381823628;KRS1;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91dyC638iHI&feature=youtube_gdata 350841;1381823629;ozbot;The Good Wife 3x12 - Bitcoin For Dummies - Promotional Photos - YouTube 350842;1381824098;Vexchocolate;krs1 you dont stop 350843;1381824111;Vexchocolate;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXMunExs7Hg 350844;1381824120;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3147 @ 0.00084314 = 2.6534 BTC [+] 350845;1381826560;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.74 = 3.7 BTC [-] 350846;1381827084;Ogedei_;anyone able to login to weexchange.co? 350847;1381827089;Ogedei_;i just get a blank page everytime 350848;1381827292;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.72200001 = 3.61 BTC [-] {2} 350849;1381827353;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.721 = 3.605 BTC [-] {3} 350850;1381827368;jurov;Ogedei_: i can, np 350851;1381827443;Ogedei_;yea wierd worked in chrome but not firefox 350852;1381828113;jurov;;;bc,stats 350853;1381828115;gribble;Current Blocks: 263814 | Current Difficulty: 1.8928124928103292E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 264095 | Next Difficulty In: 281 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 2 hours, 20 minutes, and 37 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 260135415.505 | Estimated Percent Change: 37.43327 350854;1381831806;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 32 @ 0.00709997 = 0.2272 BTC [+] 350855;1381833697;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3341 @ 0.00084767 = 2.8321 BTC [+] 350856;1381835222;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 17 @ 0.72 = 12.24 BTC [-] {2} 350857;1381836170;dexX7;;;nethash 350858;1381836170;gribble;2332330.45233 350859;1381836192;dexX7;bitcoincharts.com says 2736.712 Thash/s x_x 350860;1381836207;dexX7;;;diffchange 350861;1381836208;gribble;Estimated percent change in difficulty this period | 38.03093 % based on data since last change | 72.13423 % based on data for last three days 350862;1381836877;pankkake;:o 350863;1381836896;dexX7;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=283820.0 << most accurate projection 350864;1381836898;ozbot;Estimate of ASIC pre-orders (6,000 to 8,000 TH/s by end of 2013) 350865;1381837784;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00084909 = 5.9436 BTC [+] {4} 350866;1381838373;jurov;http://it.slashdot.org/story/13/10/14/2318211/linux-rng-may-be-insecure-after-all 350867;1381838373;ozbot;Linux RNG May Be Insecure After All - Slashdot 350868;1381838390;jurov;asciilifeform ^^ 350869;1381838455;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69348300 BTC to 1`386`966 shares, 50 satoshi per share 350870;1381838455;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.7031 BTC [-] 350871;1381839187;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.70311 BTC [+] 350872;1381839797;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00084347 = 5.0608 BTC [-] 350873;1381840041;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 853 @ 0.0008444 = 0.7203 BTC [+] 350874;1381840820;davout;so apparently some subservice of baidu started accepting bitcoin 350875;1381840869;dexX7;wooho 350876;1381840875;davout;don't think it'll actually change anything, because their service is kindof niche and payments are processed manually, but the hype potential is over 9000 :D 350877;1381840878;dexX7;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=310962.0;topicseen 350878;1381840879;ozbot;Breaking news: Baidu (NASDAQ:BIDU) accepts BITCOIN 350879;1381840914;dexX7;meh the thing with those chinese news is 350880;1381840919;davout;it's misleading, it's like saying amazon accepts btc whereas only some subset of AWS actually processes a couple of payments manually 350881;1381840919;dexX7;i feel like we are left out 350882;1381840927;dexX7;yup 350883;1381841078;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 215 @ 0.00711904 = 1.5306 BTC [+] {4} 350884;1381841383;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3150 @ 0.00084332 = 2.6565 BTC [-] {2} 350885;1381842786;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1867 @ 0.00018351 = 0.3426 BTC [-] {2} 350886;1381842787;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.00677937 = 1.3559 BTC [-] {4} 350887;1381842847;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 23 @ 0.70225346 = 16.1518 BTC [-] {5} 350888;1381843091;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2176 @ 0.00084314 = 1.8347 BTC [-] 350889;1381843274;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.410999 BTC [-] 350890;1381843335;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4 BTC [-] 350891;1381844250;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.74 = 6.66 BTC [+] 350892;1381844311;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.749999 BTC [+] 350893;1381844860;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00201006 = 0.201 BTC [-] {2} 350894;1381844921;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 20 @ 0.05 = 1 BTC [-] 350895;1381844922;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.09 = 0.18 BTC [-] 350896;1381844982;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 8 @ 0.0800375 = 0.6403 BTC [-] {3} 350897;1381846213;ThickAsThieves;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=310954 350898;1381846214;ozbot;Namecoin was stillborn, I had to switch off life-support 350899;1381846324;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 755 @ 0.0001835 = 0.1385 BTC [-] 350900;1381846325;Rulother;I'm looking forward to colored coin 350901;1381846380;ThickAsThieves;http://www.forbes.com/sites/ryanmac/2013/10/14/what-we-learned-from-the-first-jailhouse-interview-with-alleged-silk-road-leader-ross-ulbricht/ (they learned nothing) 350902;1381846381;ozbot;What We Learned From The First Jailhouse Interview With Alleged Silk Road Leader Ross Ulbricht - For 350903;1381846507;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4045 @ 0.0001835 = 0.7423 BTC [-] {3} 350904;1381846568;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1215 @ 0.000182 = 0.2211 BTC [-] 350905;1381846751;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.0008444 = 1.8577 BTC [+] 350906;1381847605;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4750 @ 0.00084314 = 4.0049 BTC [-] 350907;1381849186;davout;ThickAsThieves: that's priceless, 8 paragraphs filled with air 350908;1381849467;jurov;hi davout, they rejected my papers without explanation.. so, no b-c this time. 350909;1381849679;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1197 @ 0.0008444 = 1.0107 BTC [+] 350910;1381849849;davout;jurov: yeah we're working on this right now, you should get an e-mail about it in the next couple of hours 350911;1381849880;jurov;orly? thx! 350912;1381849923;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.38001001 BTC [-] 350913;1381850094;benkay;vexual: late to the conversation but look into coinpunk 350914;1381850960;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2729 @ 0.00084374 = 2.3026 BTC [-] {2} 350915;1381851204;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6971 @ 0.00084432 = 5.8858 BTC [+] {2} 350916;1381851265;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.70010001 BTC [-] 350917;1381851448;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 5 @ 0.092 = 0.46 BTC [+] {2} 350918;1381853461;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 14 @ 0.06356356 = 0.8899 BTC [+] {5} 350919;1381854011;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10432 @ 0.00084314 = 8.7956 BTC [-] {4} 350920;1381854620;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 27 @ 0.0069998 = 0.189 BTC [-] 350921;1381854681;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 173 @ 0.00699999 = 1.211 BTC [+] {3} 350922;1381855103;ThickAsThieves;"Twitter is rolling out an option to ease the use of direct messages. " 350923;1381855139;pankkake;revolutionary 350924;1381855141;ThickAsThieves;so theyre gonna make Facebook 350925;1381855157;ThickAsThieves;so Facebook can be the next MySpace 350926;1381855169;ThickAsThieves;so Twitter can be the next MySpace 350927;1381855212;zoinky;is direct messaging hard on twitter? 350928;1381855229;pankkake;not that I remember 350929;1381855242;ThickAsThieves;i assume they mean private messages 350930;1381855268;dexX7;it's called direct messages there 350931;1381855452;ThickAsThieves;"A report from Forbes on Oct 4 said the FBI had tried and failed to seize alleged Silk Road owner Ross Ulbricht’s personal stash of the digital currency, supposedly worth $80 million. 350932;1381855452;ThickAsThieves;The FBI is now saying that’s just not true." 350933;1381855483;ThickAsThieves;“We have seized everything we were entitled to seize under the civil forfeiture action,” said the spokesman, Peter Donald. 350934;1381855520;ThickAsThieves;http://blogs.reuters.com/unstructuredfinance/2013/10/14/fbi-not-waiting-for-silk-road-owners-bitcoin-pword/ 350935;1381855532;ThickAsThieves;title seems misleading for the cotnent 350936;1381855679;zoinky;trying to downplay it 350937;1381856145;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1601 @ 0.000839 = 1.3432 BTC [-] 350938;1381856439;Tom_Servo;Were 350939;1381856453;Tom_Servo;n't S.NST shares supposed to be released today? 350940;1381856461;Tom_Servo;S.NSA* 350941;1381856633;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5728 @ 0.00083399 = 4.7771 BTC [-] {2} 350942;1381857017;ThickAsThieves;;;nethash 350943;1381857017;gribble;2415737.12167 350944;1381857025;ThickAsThieves;;;estimate 350945;1381857026;gribble;Next difficulty estimate | 262472648.94 based on data since last change | 337469427.909 based on data for last three days 350946;1381857085;nubbins`;man, these heraldics are gonna look sick 350947;1381857086;ThickAsThieves;;;bcstats 350948;1381857089;gribble;Current Blocks: 263896 | Current Difficulty: 1.8928124928103292E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 264095 | Next Difficulty In: 199 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 18 hours, 39 minutes, and 22 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 262472648.94 | Estimated Percent Change: 38.66807 350949;1381857370;nubbins`;sneak peek: http://imgur.com/PWXEy0W 350950;1381857417;kleeck_;.d 350951;1381857417;ozbot;189281249.28103 | Next Diff in 197 blocks | Estimated Change: 38.4667% in 0d 20h 11m 13s 350952;1381857432;nubbins`;38%! 350953;1381857450;kleeck_;Iknow man. 350954;1381857453;kleeck_;Fuckin' KNC. 350955;1381857464;nubbins`;they're on fire! 350956;1381857467;nubbins`;ba-dum-tss 350957;1381857473;kleeck_;*RIMSHOT!* 350958;1381857484;kleeck_;I wish more would catch fire. 350959;1381857511;nubbins`;that reminds me, i went in on a group buy for one of those things 350960;1381857518;jcpham;;;halfreward 350961;1381857519;gribble;Estimated time of bitcoin block reward halving: Mon Oct 3 17:58:21 2016 UTC | Time remaining: 2 years, 50 weeks, 4 days, 0 hours, 40 minutes, and 0 seconds. 350962;1381857527;nubbins`;not the best idea, in retrospect, but i wonder if any earnings have come my way yet 350963;1381857829;dexX7;there was a website where one can bet on if the nethash reaches a specific target at a specific time.. what was it's url again? does someone know? 350964;1381857871;nubbins`;bitbet? 350965;1381857888;zoinky;i think it was futureblock.com 350966;1381857906;dexX7;futureblock.com << that's it, thanks! 350967;1381857908;nubbins`;dexX7: feel like leaving me a WoT rating for those friedcat shirts? 350968;1381857926;dexX7;sure, if you +1 me first 350969;1381857930;nubbins`;a while back, i know, but it turns out nobody gives a fuck about forum trust :P 350970;1381857932;nubbins`;sure, 1 sec 350971;1381857933;dexX7;i have no rating yet 350972;1381857938;nubbins`;me either ;p 350973;1381857962;jurov;omg i just sold 200btc worth of iDiff-Os on BF.. scary 350974;1381857975;dexX7;then you can't rate me, nubbins` 350975;1381857990;jurov;someone thinks it's going to above 570m 350976;1381857993;nubbins`;oh 350977;1381857996;nubbins`;well, fuck 350978;1381858010;nubbins`;nevermind, then! 350979;1381858034;dexX7;but i'm happy to do so, when i can :) 350980;1381858039;nubbins`;likewise! 350981;1381858171;nubbins`;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=269191.msg3343136#msg3343136 350982;1381858173;ozbot;[HAVELOCK] Crypto Currency (CFIG) Official Thread 350983;1381858235;dexX7;http://www.cryptofinancial.io/ hmmm.... 350984;1381858274;kleeck_;oooh, scrolling makes the scales dance up and down! 350985;1381858280;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.70008333 = 8.401 BTC [-] {3} 350986;1381858317;dexX7;yeah :D 350987;1381858323;ColdHardMetal;there's a lot of KRW on that ball. 350988;1381858358;jurov;...aaaand bf down again 350989;1381858368;ThickAsThieves;i can already tell this is gonna be an AMAZING web design 350990;1381858368;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 350991;1381858390;kleeck_; everyone grab their cock 350992;1381858390;kleeck_; way ahead of you mel_gibson 350993;1381858393;ThickAsThieves;i crashed it 350994;1381858395;ThickAsThieves;sorry 350995;1381858414;jurov;you! 350996;1381858439;ThickAsThieves;all your idiffO's seem to have disappeared 350997;1381858466;jurov;i commented on that just few lines up 350998;1381858477;nubbins`;KRW was a pain in the ass to deal with when i lived there 350999;1381858479;jurov;i put new ones there 351000;1381858482;nubbins`;largest bill was ~$10 351001;1381858489;nubbins`;totally cash-based society 351002;1381858504;nubbins`;GREAT when you wanna buy a laptop 351003;1381858615;seaotter;dexX7: what I just clickd 351004;1381858768;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.006743 = 0.6743 BTC [-] {3} 351005;1381858769;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.69175832 = 8.3011 BTC [-] {9} 351006;1381858770;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.38001 = 0.76 BTC [-] 351007;1381859988;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 150 @ 0.00116305 = 0.1745 BTC [-] {3} 351008;1381860049;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 1150 @ 0.00060303 = 0.6935 BTC [+] {2} 351009;1381860110;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 551 @ 0.00073789 = 0.4066 BTC [+] {3} 351010;1381860293;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4204 @ 0.00081466 = 3.4248 BTC [-] {2} 351011;1381860598;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 250 @ 0.00074999 = 0.1875 BTC [+] 351012;1381860699;Rulother;amazing 351013;1381860699;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 351014;1381860703;Rulother;There we go 351015;1381861062;nubbins`;prolly would have bought way more XBOND if i had my time back 351016;1381861744;pankkake;yeah. xbond is amazing 351017;1381861744;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 351018;1381862181;benkay;amazong bond 351019;1381862197;benkay;amazing bong 351020;1381862197;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 351021;1381862251;assbot; AMAZONG COMPANY! 351022;1381862611;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 156 @ 0.00077 = 0.1201 BTC [+] 351023;1381862819;seaotter;BOING 351024;1381863221;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 800 @ 0.00078928 = 0.6314 BTC [+] {3} 351025;1381863282;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 213 @ 0.0008 = 0.1704 BTC [+] 351026;1381863649;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.72 BTC [+] 351027;1381863709;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 15 @ 0.007 = 0.105 BTC [+] 351028;1381864685;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 28 @ 0.00701 = 0.1963 BTC [+] 351029;1381864929;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 67 @ 0.0068 = 0.4556 BTC [-] 351030;1381865051;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 990 @ 0.00116034 = 1.1487 BTC [-] {9} 351031;1381865539;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 58 @ 0.0068 = 0.3944 BTC [-] 351032;1381865716;benkay;an interesting question is how many btc would be required to buy enough GPU/FPGA horsepower to effect a 51% attack 351033;1381865993;jurov;;;nethash 351034;1381865993;gribble;2427983.14214 351035;1381866008;jurov;benkay divide that by your average GPU 351036;1381866083;kakobrekla;;;calc 2427983.14214/your average GPU 351037;1381866083;gribble;Error: invalid syntax (, line 1) 351038;1381866091;kakobrekla;meh 351039;1381866101;kakobrekla;stupid gribble 351040;1381866335;KRS-1;;;seen MyDickInYears 351041;1381866336;gribble;I have not seen MyDickInYears. 351042;1381866413;kakobrekla;;;gettrust mydickinyears 351043;1381866413;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user kakobrekla to user mydickinyears: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=kakobrekla&dest=mydickinyears | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=mydickinyears | Rated since: never 351044;1381866425;kakobrekla;not even in otc. 351045;1381866539;mike_c;why are people bidding more than the ipo price for s.nsa? someone is confused. them or me. 351046;1381866539;nubbins`;hahaha 351047;1381866562;mike_c;i vote them. 351048;1381866632;Apocalyptic;mike_c, i guess if higher bids are prioritized when matching occurs 351049;1381866635;Apocalyptic;-if 351050;1381866676;mike_c;less then 3% of float is spoken for. but maybe. 351051;1381867416;benkay;thanks jurov. i realized that shortly after asking 351052;1381867758;kleeck_;:P 351053;1381867787;nubbins`;want some burn cream for that hand? 351054;1381867893;ThickAsThieves;today i learned that we made it into the gov lottery for discounted Solar power installations 351055;1381867907;kleeck_;oooh 351056;1381867929;ThickAsThieves;like $20k free I think 351057;1381867945;kakobrekla;solar power, thats so year 2000 351058;1381867954;kakobrekla;or 2010 351059;1381867979;pankkake;can't wait for your mining IPO 351060;1381867979;jurov;filthy welfare!!! i'll tell mircea!!1 351061;1381867990;pankkake;all you need is a logo better than SolarWind's 351062;1381868001;kleeck_;TAT.SOLARIS 351063;1381868015;pankkake;do want 351064;1381868097;kakobrekla;subsidies became so low its not worth doing it anymore 351065;1381868100;kakobrekla;at least here in eu 351066;1381868155;ThickAsThieves;I think we're gonna see some expensive electricity in our lives 351067;1381868162;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6050 @ 0.00081829 = 4.9507 BTC [+] 351068;1381868177;jurov;kakobrekla:i think it is still worth it, just 10+ years ROI at current prices 351069;1381868185;kakobrekla;more like 20 351070;1381868192;ThickAsThieves;my ROI is down to like 3 now 351071;1381868195;kakobrekla;10 was like 3 years ago 351072;1381868210;jurov;why? panel prices went down recently 351073;1381868211;kakobrekla;calculator sized power plants dont count 351074;1381868230;jcpham;yeah i'm looking into solar 351075;1381868246;kakobrekla;panel prices went down but not for eu customers 351076;1381868253;kakobrekla;also is all about subsidies 351077;1381868273;kakobrekla;which got cut every few months 351078;1381868275;kakobrekla;since years ago 351079;1381868340;kakobrekla;you do know they are paying you more for elect than they can sell it for rite 351080;1381868347;kakobrekla;it least they were 351081;1381868401;jurov;i know. hopefully someone starts making compressed air battery kits so no need to sell electricity back to grid 351082;1381868406;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 0.06499999 = 0.325 BTC [+] 351083;1381868408;kakobrekla;one could put some black carton panel on the roof and just sell the elect from the socket back to the company 351084;1381868412;kakobrekla;infinity money 351085;1381868430;kakobrekla;im sure there are people who do that. 351086;1381868454;jurov;http://gigaom.com/2013/09/16/startup-sustainx-brings-a-big-next-gen-air-battery-online/ yup 351087;1381868456;ozbot;Startup SustainX brings a big next-gen air battery online — Tech News and Analysis 351088;1381868504;pankkake;oh, great 351089;1381868553;pankkake;better than having UPSes everywhere at least 351090;1381868554;jurov;hmm... maybe it's possible to DIY with used propane canister? 351091;1381868575;kakobrekla;yeah cause these things dont explode at all 351092;1381868577;kakobrekla;compared to ups 351093;1381868615;jurov;if you already have propane canisters in basement... compressed air is actually safer 351094;1381868635;kleeck_;They're like... air-energy capacitors... 351095;1381868657;kleeck_;I've never heard of this. 351096;1381868660;kleeck_;It's pretty cool. 351097;1381868758;LorenzoMoney;kleeck_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compressed_air_car 351098;1381868772;kleeck_;! 351099;1381868775;LorenzoMoney;they are more like water towers 351100;1381868800;kakobrekla;jurov in the attic :) 351101;1381868810;kleeck_;:P 351102;1381868816;kleeck_;I don't want compressed air in my car. 351103;1381868821;LorenzoMoney;http://www.mdi.lu/english/ 351104;1381868822;jurov;these in attic are for space program 351105;1381868827;ozbot;MDI Enterprises S.A. - Air compressed cars - Flowair - Clean cars - Sustainable technology. 351106;1381868839;LorenzoMoney;http://auto.howstuffworks.com/fuel-efficiency/vehicles/air-car.htm 351107;1381868848;kakobrekla;i think its ok if the canister is made out of carbon fiber 351108;1381868849;LorenzoMoney;http://www.youtube.com/channel/HC0Ox8_4O64Ro 351109;1381868850;ozbot;Compressed air car - YouTube 351110;1381868859;kakobrekla;those dont explode so violently afaik 351111;1381868924;jurov;or fitness balls, they have burst protection too :D 351112;1381869038;jurov;lol they can be used as seats, too... you sit on it, cause pressure increase, car starts moving 351113;1381869138;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 0.06 = 0.12 BTC [-] 351114;1381869323;jurov;;;bc,stats 351115;1381869327;gribble;Current Blocks: 263936 | Current Difficulty: 1.8928124928103292E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 264095 | Next Difficulty In: 159 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 14 hours, 40 minutes, and 36 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 264067076.969 | Estimated Percent Change: 39.51043 351116;1381869337;jurov;40% ftw 351117;1381869499;ThickAsThieves;;;estimate 351118;1381869500;gribble;Next difficulty estimate | 264163482.838 based on data since last change | 338010740.97 based on data for last three days 351119;1381869992;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00081 = 0.81 BTC [-] 351120;1381870017;kakobrekla;i guess thats is teh knc 351121;1381870053;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.67246999 = 6.7247 BTC [-] {6} 351122;1381870114;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 22 @ 0.00668331 = 0.147 BTC [-] {3} 351123;1381870297;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 9 @ 0.06 = 0.54 BTC [-] 351124;1381871029;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.37013009 = 0.7403 BTC [-] 351125;1381871395;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 86 @ 0.00648001 = 0.5573 BTC [-] {2} 351126;1381872425;benkay;compressed air energy storage is the most horrible idea 351127;1381872427;benkay;condensation 351128;1381872431;benkay;among other reasons 351129;1381872461;benkay;far more effective to just freeze water and then use that as the heat sink for a turbine if you have local waste heat 351130;1381872484;benkay;but don't tell the stanford grads that 351131;1381872508;benkay;they hate it when you demonstrate that a fancy american degree doesn't grant any actual goddamn engineering skills 351132;1381872776;jurov;hm, seems like drying of compressed air is a solved engineering problem 351133;1381872920;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.00646102 = 0.1292 BTC [-] {2} 351134;1381873103;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2600 @ 0.00019 = 0.494 BTC [+] 351135;1381873347;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 38 @ 0.65677883 = 24.9576 BTC [-] {10} 351136;1381873896;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SMG] 600 @ 0.00017 = 0.102 BTC [-] 351137;1381874384;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.7 = 2.8 BTC [+] 351138;1381874604;benkay;until you rapidly expand it 351139;1381874628;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.71996666 = 2.1599 BTC [+] {3} 351140;1381874642;asciilifeform;the aircar pushers aren't idiots, they simply aren't solving the problem you think they're solving. 351141;1381874654;benkay;at which point even if you did a really good job at drying it whatever small amount is left will indubitably condense back out 351142;1381874666;asciilifeform;the point isn't to build an effective horseless carriage, but to extract money from chumps (including bureaucrats.) 351143;1381874668;benkay;aircap you mean? what problem are they actually solving? 351144;1381874672;benkay;dahahaha 351145;1381874676;benkay;point taken 351146;1381874679;benkay;but do they know that? 351147;1381874683;asciilifeform;for this purpose, it works beautifully. 351148;1381874855;benkay;some days i think the whole american software industry is engaged in an epic scam 351149;1381874866;benkay;obviously some businesses need software 351150;1381874872;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00081583 = 1.7948 BTC [+] 351151;1381874872;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.729 = 2.187 BTC [+] 351152;1381874883;benkay;but how do the market cap to profit ratios of exxon mobil and facebook make sense in the same universe? 351153;1381874933;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.7349 = 2.9396 BTC [+] 351154;1381874995;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 52 @ 0.00646102 = 0.336 BTC [-] 351155;1381875055;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 2133 @ 0.00645104 = 13.7601 BTC [-] {6} 351156;1381875056;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 100 @ 0.65246099 = 65.2461 BTC [-] {7} 351157;1381875149;jurov;well, i hadn't air cars in mind, but replacing lead or lithium battery for solar power installation 351158;1381875177;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 38 @ 0.65063157 = 24.724 BTC [-] {4} 351159;1381875218;jurov;i admit, that's good to extract money from chumps, too 351160;1381875604;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 6 @ 0.12449995 = 0.747 BTC [+] 351161;1381875665;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 5 @ 0.12549996 = 0.6275 BTC [+] {2} 351162;1381876397;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 6 @ 0.1244999 = 0.747 BTC [-] 351163;1381876519;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 7 @ 0.065 = 0.455 BTC [+] 351164;1381876541;jurov;http://www.deredactie.be/cm/vrtnieuws.english/News/131014_somali lol what a trap 351165;1381876542;ozbot;"Film deal" lands Somali pirate in custody 351166;1381876702;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 99 @ 0.00236999 = 0.2346 BTC [-] 351167;1381877007;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6102 BTC [-] 351168;1381877068;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5250 @ 0.0002258 = 1.1855 BTC [+] {7} 351169;1381877301;kakobrekla;The daily De Standaard earlier reported that Hassan was detained after arriving here on a plane from Kenya. The suspect was taken to Bruges. 351170;1381877302;kakobrekla;i lold 351171;1381877861;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.37012006 BTC [-] 351172;1381877922;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.12699999 = 0.254 BTC [+] 351173;1381878640;turbo_ac100;oh c'mon https://cryptostocks.com/securities/54 351174;1381878656;turbo_ac100;Do they have no background checks whatsoever? 351175;1381878684;Kleeck_;Is that a lolzy scam? 351176;1381878689;turbo_ac100;"It is this conversion system that enable us to harness the power of standard ASIC chips [...]" 351177;1381878698;turbo_ac100;You be the judge. 351178;1381878702;Kleeck_;http://scryptasic.org/ 351179;1381878703;ozbot;Scrypt ASIC International » The Worlds First Scrypt ASIC Dedicated Manufacturer 351180;1381878791;turbo_ac100;Off the shelf ASICS. Why'd nobody think of THAT before? 351181;1381878797;Kleeck_;http://postimg.org/image/u80icudir/ 351182;1381878797;ozbot;View image: Unit 1 CGminer Solo Mining 351183;1381879147;Kleeck_;Clearly legit. 351184;1381879150;Kleeck_;Screenshots and all. 351185;1381879154;kakobrekla;>In built 500 Watt PSU due to the increased power supply demands mining using the scrypt algorithm while using our custom ASIC to Scrypt conversion technology. 351186;1381879157;kakobrekla;lulz 351187;1381879237;kakobrekla;gotta love the visitor counter in the footer 351188;1381879248;kakobrekla;so nineties. 351189;1381880372;benkay;tee hee standard asic chips 351190;1381880403;mike_c;love the delayed laugh :) 351191;1381880432;mike_c;those generic application-specific chips are a great bargain! 351192;1381880850;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5470 @ 0.00081809 = 4.475 BTC [+] 351193;1381881197;benkay;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLI46yMdtmU 351194;1381881198;ozbot;Archimedes insane laugh - YouTube 351195;1381881338;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 82 @ 0.00611333 = 0.5013 BTC [-] {4} 351196;1381881582;taub;its happening 351197;1381882070;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 84 @ 0.00119999 = 0.1008 BTC [+] 351198;1381882192;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.68985 = 2.7594 BTC [+] {3} 351199;1381882436;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00081694 = 4.3298 BTC [-] 351200;1381883412;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 27 @ 0.00611028 = 0.165 BTC [-] {2} 351201;1381883473;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 32 @ 0.065 = 2.08 BTC [+] 351202;1381883534;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SMG] 600 @ 0.00017 = 0.102 BTC [-] 351203;1381883535;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.37012006 BTC [-] 351204;1381883881;nubbins`;hi 351205;1381883998;mod6;sup 351206;1381884032;nubbins`;just finished a zine workshop, "relaxing" before i get back to work 351207;1381884116;mod6;werd 351208;1381884205;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00600021 = 0.6 BTC [-] {2} 351209;1381885243;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2271 @ 0.00081809 = 1.8579 BTC [+] 351210;1381885413;mod6;$vwap s.mpoe 351211;1381885414;mpexbot;mod6: S.MPOE 1 day: average: 0.00083855 high: 0.00084997 low: 0.00081 volume: 129219 btc: 108.35596382 7 day: average: 0.00084722 high: 0.00085779 low: 0.00081 volume: 749547 btc: 635.03331174 30 day: average: 0.00088933 high: 0.00094307 low: 0.0007725 volume: 3908485 btc: 3475.9352557 351212;1381885791;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 816 @ 0.0012 = 0.9792 BTC [+] 351213;1381887133;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 313 @ 0.00600004 = 1.878 BTC [-] {2} 351214;1381887255;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.68 = 1.36 BTC [-] 351215;1381887865;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.37012006 = 0.7402 BTC [-] 351216;1381888536;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.67999999 = 2.72 BTC [-] 351217;1381889024;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.68 BTC [+] 351218;1381889695;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.6806 = 1.3612 BTC [+] {2} 351219;1381889756;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.689 = 3.445 BTC [+] 351220;1381889817;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.69 BTC [+] 351221;1381892442;mod6;;;ticker 351222;1381892443;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 158.51044, Best ask: 159.39984, Bid-ask spread: 0.88940, Last trade: 158.51043, 24 hour volume: 16783.78250053, 24 hour low: 150.64000, 24 hour high: 159.43000, 24 hour vwap: 155.19850 351223;1381892684;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.65000001 = 1.3 BTC [-] 351224;1381892745;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 26 @ 0.006 = 0.156 BTC [-] {4} 351225;1381893782;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.689 = 1.378 BTC [+] 351226;1381894209;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 1350 @ 0.00098262 = 1.3265 BTC [+] {3} 351227;1381895656;mod6;;;bc,stats 351228;1381895658;gribble;Current Blocks: 264003 | Current Difficulty: 1.8928124928103292E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 264095 | Next Difficulty In: 92 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 8 hours, 31 minutes, and 30 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 264833073.563 | Estimated Percent Change: 39.91511 351229;1381895978;assbot;[MPEX] [S.NSA] 2436400 @ 0.0001 = 243.64 BTC {12} 351230;1381896039;assbot;[MPEX] [S.NSA] 501000 @ 0.0001 = 50.1 BTC {2} 351231;1381896039;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.67 BTC [-] 351232;1381896220;mircea_popescu;so s.nsa ipo is a definite. 351233;1381896238;mircea_popescu;congrats to teh team. 351234;1381896344;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.00554 = 0.2216 BTC [-] 351235;1381896451;kakobrekla;i miss ipo spam 351236;1381896475;BingoBoingo;So sad no S.NSA spam 351237;1381896524;nubbins`;hooray 351238;1381896527;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 54 @ 0.00553001 = 0.2986 BTC [-] {2} 351239;1381896530;mircea_popescu;ya srsly. ou sont les spams d'antan! 351240;1381896588;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 33 @ 0.00553001 = 0.1825 BTC [-] 351241;1381896771;assbot;[MPEX] [S.NSA] 49575 @ 0.0001 = 4.9575 BTC 351242;1381897503;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 499 @ 0.00555 = 2.7695 BTC [+] 351243;1381897625;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.37012003 BTC [-] 351244;1381897952;VanCleef;hey mircea_popscu did you verify at bitfunder yet? 351245;1381898086;kakobrekla;are you trying to outroll dub? 351246;1381898153;VanCleef;is it worth verifying or not really? 351247;1381898174;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2453 @ 0.00021997 = 0.5396 BTC [-] 351248;1381898235;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2228 @ 0.00021997 = 0.4901 BTC [-] 351249;1381898269;pankkake;I offered to verify an account for a fee, but no one even seems remotely interested 351250;1381898348;VanCleef;probably cause its not "legal" whatever that means 351251;1381898382;VanCleef;but you could probably just wait for another exchange yeh? 351252;1381898388;pankkake;I'm always surprised when bitcoiners want to obey laws 351253;1381898400;pankkake;yeah, that's more like it 351254;1381898428;kakobrekla;yeah i heard 123 or whats it called is the shits now 351255;1381898441;pankkake;796? 351256;1381898454;pankkake;I wonder why the chinese love numbers in site names 351257;1381898461;kakobrekla;yeah, 123. 351258;1381898479;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2733 @ 0.00248594 = 6.7941 BTC [+] {10} 351259;1381898516;nubbins`;what's .wps format, anyone know? 351260;1381898523;pankkake;word perfect? 351261;1381898582;nubbins`;no idea. google docs won't open it 351262;1381898590;nubbins`;oh, microsoft works? jesus 351263;1381898598;nubbins`;what are people into at all 351264;1381898608;pankkake;oh… indeed 351265;1381898617;nubbins`;who writes a book in microsoft works? 351266;1381898641;pankkake;people who are no good at computers I guess. it is often bundled 351267;1381898666;nubbins`;:( 351268;1381898677;nubbins`;i hope it can save in other formats 351269;1381898745;pankkake;can't you open it with libreoffice? 351270;1381898753;pankkake;or word at least 351271;1381898797;nubbins`;i have openoffice (i know) and google docs 351272;1381898811;nubbins`;honestly, this is the first time someone's sent me something i couldn't open in docs 351273;1381898967;VanCleef;pankkake bf would probably get the shits and close down the account and take your coins etc 351274;1381898986;BingoBoingo;So I'm thinking of getting a new offline computer and considering the Macintosh SE/30. It seems like a TI-89 on steroids. Any obvious faults I'm overlooking? 351275;1381898988;pankkake;how would they find out I'm not the one managing the account? 351276;1381899000;pankkake;there's absolutely no way 351277;1381899005;VanCleef;but yeh 796 could be good 351278;1381899078;nubbins`;i, uh. obvious fault is that it'll probably be a nightmare to keep running 351279;1381899098;pankkake;? 351280;1381899105;nubbins`;re: bingoboingo 351281;1381899122;nubbins`;BingoBoingo: So I'm thinking of getting a new offline computer and considering the Macintosh SE/30. It seems like a TI-89 on steroids. Any obvious faults I'm overlooking? 351282;1381899134;pankkake;oh, sorry. waking up 351283;1381899145;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: I'm thinking of using for purposes where unexpected total failure might be a virtue rather than a vice. 351284;1381899183;nubbins`;that was my next question 351285;1381899220;nubbins`;so you're storing your poetry on it, hey? 351286;1381899381;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: Maybe/Probably. I've found a QR code gun for its weird Serial port though. The only reason I'm thinking SE/30 is NetBSD won't build on the Mac Classic I have as it requires the 030 or 020 plus coprocessor. 351287;1381899394;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00081532 = 13.0451 BTC [-] {3} 351288;1381899404;nubbins`;ah 351289;1381899410;nubbins`;i use a heavily modified bsd kernel myself 351290;1381899434;nubbins`;how much did the qr code gun set you back? i was thinking a small photo scanner would serve much the same purpose 351291;1381899540;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: I actually acquired it at the same school surplus auction as the Mac Classic I need to replace with the SE/30. It was about $75 I spent that day on three computers, two barcode/QR guns, and a printer. 351292;1381899549;nubbins`;rad! 351293;1381899554;nubbins`;that's a great setup 351294;1381899630;pankkake;how do the QR readers work? do you need drivers? 351295;1381899661;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: Well it would be if the three Mac Classics could use a decent unix instead of Mac os 7 or AU/X 351296;1381899677;BingoBoingo;pankkake: I haven't crossed that bridge yet with NetBSD 351297;1381899693;VanCleef;anyone here using 796? 351298;1381899787;nubbins`;hm. how far along 7 can you get on a mac classic? 351299;1381899794;nubbins`;i think they were updating that as late as 1997 351300;1381899839;nubbins`;still a rough way to have to use a computer though 351301;1381900036;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: Maybe? After reading some of asciilifeform's blog though I took time to get reacquainted with my TI-89. It might be older hardware, but sometimes going for the Cougar is worth it... provided you remember the rubber and can afford the Valtrex. 351302;1381900102;BingoBoingo;VanCleef: 796 just looks shady. The only reason it might survive is the Chinese might simply want Americans to look worse at this technology thing. 351303;1381900194;asciilifeform;for crypto buffs: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1323 351304;1381900386;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: If I wanted to replace my primary computer with a more obedient machine, would you recommend an HP or a TI graphing calculator. I'm just wondering because reading you makes me more paranoid than I was. 351305;1381900424;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: If you've managed to write a working TCP/IP stack for your TI, go for it. 351306;1381900578;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Honestly I'm accepting everything connected to this internet bullshit is dirty. I'm kind of wondering just which calculator can more reliably feed GnuPG better random numbers if kept offline. 351307;1381900614;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: I know of no GPG port or work-alike for the TI, but perhaps you can write the first one. 351308;1381900627;asciilifeform;AFAIK neither includes a TRNG. 351309;1381900710;kakobrekla;dont some of those usb rand generators do the job at least better than nothing? 351310;1381900712;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Well, I'd probably be limited to using the existing GCC port for the TI-89 to compile and hoping the NSA would let science the courtesy of having some decent sources for random and pseudo random numbers. 351311;1381900761;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: the TI-8x series had serial inputs (3.5mm jack), perhaps you can improvise something. 351312;1381900816;VanCleef;looks less shady than bitfunder tho 351313;1381900846;kakobrekla;i think your shady-o-meter is broke 351314;1381900849;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: The 89 at least has a 3.5 like audio jack. I'm kind of leaning towards Mircea's orgy microphone as a seed input idea. 351315;1381900876;VanCleef;but it has a norton secured thingy on its site 351316;1381900887;VanCleef;powered by verisign!!! 351317;1381900888;BingoBoingo;VanCleef: If 796 looks less shady than Buttfunder maybe rotorooter the eyes? 351318;1381900888;assbot;123! 351319;1381900903;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: you will definitely want to de-bias the noise, as most microphones pick up periodic interference (e.g. mains hum) 351320;1381900917;VanCleef;okey so for now 796 is pretty dodgy 351321;1381900917;assbot;123! 351322;1381900923;VanCleef;check 351323;1381900972;kakobrekla;asciilifeform care to comment on the usb rand generators? 351324;1381900991;asciilifeform;kakobrekla: the currently-available ones? 351325;1381901002;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: So... Mains hums would bias more than local humps? Turn the sensetivity down? 351326;1381901006;kakobrekla;well, theres like 5 or 10 of them no? 351327;1381901014;asciilifeform;'Entropy Key' is thought to be acceptable, but it's been sold out for ages. 351328;1381901035;asciilifeform;the others are squarely in the 'if you have to ask, you can't afford it' territory. 351329;1381901076;asciilifeform;problem is: it is quite possible to build a HRNG that passes any conceivable 'test of entropy' while remaining insecure. 351330;1381901094;kakobrekla;theres like 5 of them with reasonable price here 351331;1381901095;asciilifeform;try this exercise: apply your favourite test to: the digits of Pi. 351332;1381901095;kakobrekla;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_hardware_random_number_generators 351333;1381901169;asciilifeform;a good HRNG is, probably unavoidably, one of two kinds: that you built yourself, or is simple enough to examine with basic bench instruments to see that it has 'nothing up the sleeve.' 351334;1381901249;asciilifeform;if you want one now, and would rather not wait for mine, build the damn thing yourself. It will take you a day or two. 351335;1381901299;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.689 BTC [+] 351336;1381901307;kakobrekla;yeah ill be knitting socks right now if id have to diy everything 351337;1381901353;asciilifeform;kakobrekla: if store-bought socks routinely came with a contact poison, i imagine that quite a few people would learn to knit. 351338;1381901407;kakobrekla;hehe 351339;1381901422;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Honestly I am waiting for the Cardanos and hoping I can afford 10+ largely for the reason that store bought cotton does include various aldehydes. 351340;1381901476;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: Cardano will be "as cheap as possible, but not cheaper." 351341;1381901548;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: That is good in that cheaper than possible would be worthless. Not being cheaper than that is simply declaring your value. 351342;1381901909;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.37012003 = 0.7402 BTC [-] 351343;1381902061;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: I stand by my earlier idea that the Cardano should be available in at least two gift boxes. One with the Cardano, lingere, and a camera; and the other with the Cardano and a blackjack. 351344;1381902128;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: suggest this to MP, that's his department. 351345;1381902215;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: I'm pretty sure I've told him before, but as long as I don't triple dot elipse it should be in the logs 351346;1381903739;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00081395 = 4.6395 BTC [-] {2} 351347;1381904973;virtuals;;;ticker 351348;1381904974;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 161.26390, Best ask: 161.96599, Bid-ask spread: 0.70209, Last trade: 161.96599, 24 hour volume: 19346.13979827, 24 hour low: 150.64000, 24 hour high: 161.96599, 24 hour vwap: 156.16054 351349;1381905569;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00560101 = 0.2801 BTC [-] 351350;1381905691;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.689 BTC [+] 351351;1381905896;benkay;;;vwap 351352;1381905896;gribble;Error: "vwap" is not a valid command. 351353;1381905906;benkay;durrrr 351354;1381905957;BingoBoingo;;;google buttcoins nao 351355;1381905957;gribble;They really are Buttcoins nao pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; Perfect money corrupts absolutely pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: ; Bitcoin pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: 351356;1381906035;kakobrekla;$vwap 351357;1381906037;mpexbot;kakobrekla: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=wEqJhKQk 351358;1381906051;kakobrekla;nop 351359;1381906109;pankkake;.vwap 351360;1381906125;pankkake;☃vwap 351361;1381906320;benkay;wamp wamp 351362;1381906347;benkay;;;later tell mircea_popescu http://dailycaller.com/2013/08/31/the-perils-of-homeschooling-german-police-storm-home-seize-four-children/ ah yes the glorious superiority of european everything 351363;1381906347;gribble;The operation succeeded. 351364;1381906382;pankkake;no child services or something in the glorious usa? 351365;1381906440;dub;fuck homeschooling 351366;1381906606;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.689 BTC [+] 351367;1381906763;dub;kids should have been euthanised instead of becoming a tax burden 351368;1381906850;assbot;[MPEX] [S.NSA] 30000 @ 0.0001 = 3 BTC 351369;1381906911;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.37012001 = 1.1104 BTC [-] 351370;1381906972;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 71 @ 0.0056 = 0.3976 BTC [-] {2} 351371;1381908146;benkay;"school" 351372;1381908151;benkay;aka industrial babysitting 351373;1381908182;pankkake;and brainwashing 351374;1381908186;benkay;it's a poor troll, admittedly, but at least in the states we can abuse our childrens education 351375;1381908192;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200 @ 0.00081898 = 0.1638 BTC [+] {2} 351376;1381908213;benkay;ugh english. too late for me :( 351377;1381908232;pankkake;hehe 351378;1381908248;dub;been to school in teh states so I know how bad it is 351379;1381908253;dub;but its what the other kids do 351380;1381908388;dub;do they still make you chant at the flag? 351381;1381908513;mod6;they brought it back i think. 351382;1381908547;mod6;in all my days we never had to do it. but i think after 9/11 they brought it back. lol 351383;1381908690;mod6;wow: In 2009, a Montgomery County, Maryland, teacher berated and had school police remove a 13-year-old girl who refused to say the Pledge of Allegiance in the classroom. The student's mother, assisted by the American Civil Liberties Union of Maryland, sought and received an apology from the teacher, as state law and the school's student handbook both prohibit students from being forced to recite the Pledge 351384;1381908697;mod6;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pledge_of_Allegiance 351385;1381909656;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 297 @ 0.0056 = 1.6632 BTC [-] {2} 351386;1381909900;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 540 @ 0.0025 = 1.35 BTC [+] 351387;1381916373;dub;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=263445.msg3347620#msg3347620 351388;1381916375;ozbot;[LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) 351389;1381917098;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 118 @ 0.58618021 = 69.1693 BTC [-] {21} 351390;1381917403;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 26 @ 0.0056 = 0.1456 BTC [-] 351391;1381917706;mod6;.jd 351392;1381917728;mod6;*bzzt* Thank you for playing. 351393;1381917774;mod6;!jd 351394;1381917775;assbot;Just-Dice stat: 4715 BTC profit, 61.5k BTC invested, 181.24 mio bets, 4.17 mio BTC wagered 351395;1381917952;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00081258 = 2.6003 BTC [-] 351396;1381918162;jurov;;;bcstats 351397;1381918164;gribble;Current Blocks: 264068 | Current Difficulty: 1.8928124928103292E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 264095 | Next Difficulty In: 27 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 hours, 40 minutes, and 39 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 266585355.262 | Estimated Percent Change: 40.84087 351398;1381918301;jurov;;;nethash 351399;1381918302;gribble;2448463.01622 351400;1381918849;mircea_popescu;;;later tell benkay http://crossmap.christianpost.com/news/german-officials-return-homeschooled-children-to-dirk-wunderlich-family-on-condition-of-school-attendance-5255 351401;1381918850;gribble;The operation succeeded. 351402;1381918865;mircea_popescu;do not confuse europe with the us depiction thereof. 351403;1381919189;pankkake;"The Wunderlich children were returned after the parents promised they would send their children back to a state school" so? they're still stealing children 351404;1381919246;jurov;pankkake: you won't believe what slovak catholic bigots came up with 351405;1381919265;pankkake;what? 351406;1381919265;mircea_popescu;pankkake well, in germany you gotta send kids to school. 351407;1381919266;jurov;not just stealing children, but they supposedly give them for adoption to homosexuals 351408;1381919273;pankkake;lol 351409;1381919273;mircea_popescu;you don't, however, have to live in germany. 351410;1381919285;jurov;and also, they are teaching them to masturbate in norway or so 351411;1381919309;pankkake;that's like teaching to breathe 351412;1381919345;jurov;and teching the homosexuality, zoophilia etc, of course 351413;1381919430;Azelphur;mircea_popescu: I'm curious to know what your opinion is on the US debt default tomorrow 351414;1381919432;Azelphur;that's gonna be interesting :P 351415;1381919456;mircea_popescu;it doesn't default dood. 351416;1381919477;Azelphur;I thought because the government hasn't been issued funding, they are unable to make this months payments on the bond, which is a default, no? 351417;1381919486;mircea_popescu;the situation ios like this : each state has some income as tax receipts, and some expenses. in actual reality, the first claim to tax receipts goes to servicing the debt. 351418;1381919506;mircea_popescu;in pseudo-lala crack cocaine pipedream the libertards in the us are living in, the first claim goes to welfare programs. 351419;1381919524;mircea_popescu;by their distorted reasoning, as there's not enough tax income to satisfy both of these, there will be a default. 351420;1381919538;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.37012001 BTC [-] 351421;1381919539;Azelphur;I see 351422;1381919544;mircea_popescu;in actual reality, there will be no default, just the various "paying poor people to vote democrat" programs will collapse. 351423;1381919547;Azelphur;so you think they'll pay off the debt, and cut welfare? 351424;1381919547;mircea_popescu;so, no more food stamps. 351425;1381919554;mircea_popescu;no more health insurance. etc. 351426;1381919555;mircea_popescu;yep. 351427;1381919563;mircea_popescu;they already cut out food stamps for like, a day. 351428;1381919571;Azelphur;interesting, that was certainly one of the scenarios I came up with 351429;1381919576;mircea_popescu;so good for you. 351430;1381919590;Azelphur;xD 351431;1381919596;Azelphur;lucky me I don't depend on welfare any more, I guess. 351432;1381919597;mircea_popescu;no state HAS TO pay the poor. the poor are always last in line, and for very good reason : they're lesser people. 351433;1381919602;mircea_popescu;indeed. 351434;1381919652;pankkake;http://www.zerohedge.com/article/dagong-rating-agency-us-has-already-defaulted 351435;1381919654;ozbot;Dagong Rating Agency: "The US Has Already Defaulted" | Zero Hedge 351436;1381919671;jurov;in 1967 or so 351437;1381919783;mircea_popescu;what, the nixon gold thing ? 351438;1381919813;jurov;anyway, i don't believe welfare is more than small % of us budget 351439;1381919841;jurov;so it wont make a difference 351440;1381919940;dexX7;how likely is it that the usa goes broke tomorrow and will the be the end of teh world? 351441;1381919987;jurov;oh, the world already ended in 1989 in ussr breakdown 351442;1381919994;jurov;you didnt get the memo 351443;1381920038;dexX7;hehe 351444;1381920065;mircea_popescu;jurov it's about a 40% 351445;1381920167;Perlboy;mircea_popescu, maybe they'll pay the debt off to the chinese 351446;1381920173;Perlboy;by inflating their currency 351447;1381920194;Perlboy;cause that worked for germany and all :) 351448;1381920217;mircea_popescu;Perlboy nope. tried past 5 yeas, the problem is everyone will devalue. 351449;1381920244;Perlboy;although not having social welfare seems a bit of a fools errand. 351450;1381920275;Perlboy;social welfare work schemes seem more logical 351451;1381920282;Perlboy;which i don't believe the u.s. has 351452;1381920370;dexX7;pankkake: http://www.zerohedge.com/article/dagong-rating-agency-us-has-already-defaulted did you see the date? 351453;1381920404;pankkake;yes, it's the fun part 351454;1381920422;dexX7;ah i see :)= 351455;1381920514;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6785 BTC [+] 351456;1381921175;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/things-that-matter-these-days-things-that-dont-matter-these-days/ 351457;1381921176;ozbot;Things that matter these days ; things that don’t matter these days. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mirce 351458;1381921185;mircea_popescu;^ recommended reading. 351459;1381921193;Azelphur;inb4 boobs 351460;1381921385;mircea_popescu;just penis. 351461;1381921396;Azelphur;close enough xD 351462;1381921405;Azelphur;but yea, I was around for all that shit too 351463;1381921429;Azelphur;the massive GPU difficulty spike, then the massive FPGA difficulty spike, and the Mt. Gox hack that dropped the exchange rate to practically zero 351464;1381921454;Azelphur;mircea_popescu: I'm dubious as to if a difficulty spike of this magnitude will happen again for a while now though - we've jumped through all iterations of current technology 351465;1381921469;Azelphur;there is no next step, in terms of mining hardware, it's just making gradual improvements to the ASICs 351466;1381921483;mircea_popescu;we've not jumped through actual mass adoption. if you grep the logs for last month's discussion about hashing bathroom tiles... 351467;1381921511;Azelphur;haha 351468;1381921542;mircea_popescu;you know, for house heating. 351469;1381921560;Azelphur;that'd be pretty cool, I'm pretty much heating my house off of 3 x SC Single atm 351470;1381921573;Azelphur;but it only does the one room. 351471;1381921610;Azelphur;but yea, I reckon that scenario is a long way away 351472;1381921622;Azelphur;public adoption in general takes many years. 351473;1381921659;mircea_popescu;"a long way away". 351474;1381921664;mircea_popescu;5 years ? 351475;1381921671;Azelphur;I'd think more like 10 351476;1381921680;mircea_popescu;well here's the thing : i'll be around in 10 years. 351477;1381921686;Azelphur;me too hopefully xD 351478;1381921697;mircea_popescu;and i'll look at the new graph and say... hey... i remember when i was discussing with azelphur 351479;1381921698;mircea_popescu;hehe 351480;1381921710;Azelphur;haha yea, prolly will 351481;1381921732;Azelphur;now if the exchange rate would just hurry up and do that again 351482;1381921750;mircea_popescu;lol 351483;1381921861;mod6;:D 351484;1381922047;dexX7;mircea_popescu: your units are off.. all those super computers are messured in petaflop/s, not terraflop/s 351485;1381922094;mircea_popescu;33,862.7 351486;1381922102;dexX7;Tianhe-2 - 33 TFLOPS 351487;1381922108;pankkake;could one of those supercomputers 51% attack litecoin? 351488;1381922110;mircea_popescu;hah. people using fucking commas the wrong way 351489;1381922141;dexX7;replace all T with a P and you're fine 351490;1381922241;dexX7;and i suggest to assume FLOP = HASHOP or so.. both are "special" and would take many more regular ALUops 351491;1381922278;mircea_popescu;dexX7 made some edits :[ 351492;1381922296;dexX7;:( sorry 351493;1381922303;mircea_popescu;but no, the flop = hashop equality is nonsense. 351494;1381922327;dexX7;why? 351495;1381922333;mircea_popescu;even if you take "full hardware implementation" : you can easy fit 1000 flop cores in the space a hashcore takes 351496;1381922341;mircea_popescu;like, on physical silicon. 351497;1381922362;mircea_popescu;i mean, obviously you can make cores that do sqrt(x) in one cycle 351498;1381922372;mircea_popescu;that doesn't make sqrt(x) = X*2 351499;1381922378;dexX7;ah, good to know 351500;1381922401;mircea_popescu;in the end i guess this woud be the one base conversion factor, sqA of silicon space. 351501;1381922403;dexX7;didn't know that flops are so much easier than hashops 351502;1381922418;mircea_popescu;well a shashop is 2 sha-256 hashings 351503;1381922444;mircea_popescu;http://www.movable-type.co.uk/scripts/sha256.html 351504;1381922445;ozbot;JavaScript Implementation of SHA-256 Cryptographic Hash Algorithm | Movable Type Scripts 351505;1381922451;mircea_popescu;that's a js sample sha-256 implementation 351506;1381922589;dexX7;i see 351507;1381923685;bitesak;thanks MP for your most recent article_ 351508;1381923758;mod6;i like it too. 351509;1381923841;mircea_popescu;bitesak actually... ima put that in the trilema bylines :D 351510;1381924662;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 150 @ 0.0025 = 0.375 BTC [+] 351511;1381924845;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69348300 BTC to 1`386`966 shares, 50 satoshi per share 351512;1381924918;bitesak;is it reasonable to argue it is in China's interest to support and accumulate bitcoins as a hedge and part of an exit of their dwindling USD base as well as precipating even faster the demise of the dollar? 351513;1381924936;mircea_popescu;perhaps. 351514;1381924945;Troic;what about boinc ? it reports 8.8 petaflops of compute over the last 24hours : https://boinc.berkeley.edu/ 351515;1381924989;mircea_popescu;Troic i used the http://www.top500.org/lists/2013/06/ list 351516;1381925013;mircea_popescu;conceivably it's not 100% accurate, but gotta use something 351517;1381925271;asa1024;mp: re: recent article. just wow. 351518;1381925285;asa1024;post @ tri 351519;1381925291;mircea_popescu;yee 351520;1381925304;pankkake;;;bc,stats 351521;1381925306;gribble;Current Blocks: 264093 | Current Difficulty: 1.8928124928103292E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 264095 | Next Difficulty In: 2 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 11 minutes and 42 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 267614155.975 | Estimated Percent Change: 41.3844 351522;1381925332;pankkake;not even 42! 351523;1381925340;mircea_popescu;lmao 351524;1381925349;mircea_popescu;epic. how the fuck does that go 351525;1381925353;assbot;Last 5 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1418823/plain/) 351526;1381925353;mircea_popescu;!b 5 351527;1381925391;pankkake;oh, nice feature 351528;1381925417;mircea_popescu;#bitcoin-assets, leading the way in irc innovation. 351529;1381925422;mircea_popescu;we got bots to do everything. 351530;1381925623;turbo_ac100_;mircea_popescu, is there evidence that the chinese and /or the US are mining? 351531;1381925638;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.582 = 6.984 BTC [-] 351532;1381925733;turbo_ac100_;besides "Estimated Percent Change: 41.3844" :P 351533;1381925760;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 80 @ 0.0056 = 0.448 BTC [-] 351534;1381925761;mircea_popescu;yeah. not public, but there is. 351535;1381925839;Scrat;https://blockchain.info/block-height/264096 351536;1381925848;pankkake;RIP mining 351537;1381925880;mircea_popescu;Scrat what about that block ? 351538;1381925908;Scrat;new diff - 267.7 M 351539;1381925912;mircea_popescu;a a. yea 351540;1381925937;mircea_popescu;267.6 estimate earlier proves correct >D 351541;1381926187;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.64779999 = 1.2956 BTC [+] 351542;1381926215;bitesak;;;ticker 351543;1381926215;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 161.30001, Best ask: 161.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.19999, Last trade: 161.50000, 24 hour volume: 26035.62247003, 24 hour low: 151.20000, 24 hour high: 163.00000, 24 hour vwap: 157.69910 351544;1381926282;mircea_popescu;.d 351545;1381926282;ozbot;267731249.48242 | Next Diff in 2015 blocks | Estimated Change: -99.9300% in 27d 23h 17m 17s 351546;1381926291;mircea_popescu;ha! -99.93% ! 11 351547;1381926295;pankkake;please be true! 351548;1381926298;mircea_popescu;sell all the bitcoinz 351549;1381926320;pankkake;;;prevdiffchange 351550;1381926324;gribble;41.44626 351551;1381927285;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.37012001 BTC [-] 351552;1381927286;bitesak;;;bc,stats 351553;1381927288;gribble;Current Blocks: 264099 | Current Difficulty: 2.677312494824211E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 266111 | Next Difficulty In: 2012 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 4 hours, 17 minutes, and 33 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 459625014.277 | Estimated Percent Change: 71.67403 351554;1381927310;mircea_popescu;459625014.277 351555;1381927313;mircea_popescu;herp 351556;1381927370;pankkake;can't be accurate so soon 351557;1381927382;mircea_popescu;what if it is. 351558;1381927393;pankkake;that would be fun 351559;1381927405;Apocalyptic;China mining hard... 351560;1381927418;mircea_popescu;i can't wait for all the something awful butthurt ensuing 351561;1381927425;mircea_popescu;"o these mean bitcoin people, they dont 351562;1381927432;dexX7;too soon, no? cointerra, vmc and hashfast are shipping when? next month? 351563;1381927442;mircea_popescu;' give a shit what we think about it!!! you could heat all the poor african houses with all that electricity!!!" 351564;1381927451;Apocalyptic;heh 351565;1381927454;mircea_popescu;"why is it that resource allocation isn't done by a forum!" 351566;1381927474;pankkake;"why is it that resource allocation isn't done by a forum!" => that's what Ripple does :D 351567;1381927494;mircea_popescu;except it has no resources to allocate. 351568;1381927505;pankkake;bitfury has orders to ship in the US I think 351569;1381927578;pankkake;I meant https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=145506.0 - which at a time gave $100 worth to anyone with an account 351570;1381927640;mircea_popescu;yeah. that worked so very well... 351571;1381927781;ThickAsThieves;;;estimate 351572;1381927782;gribble;Next difficulty estimate | 455842159.74 based on data since last change | 342070123.465 based on data for last three days 351573;1381927839;pankkake;indeed 351574;1381928704;mircea_popescu;.d 351575;1381928704;ozbot;267731249.48242 | Next Diff in 2009 blocks | Estimated Change: 58.7302% in 5d 18h 5m 3s 351576;1381928871;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2650 @ 0.00081596 = 2.1623 BTC [+] 351577;1381929054;assbot;[MPEX] [O] [O.USD.C128T] 700 @ 0.35586239 = 249.1037 BTC [+] 351578;1381929106;ystarnaud;wow did the diff go from 180mil to 267mil or did I miss a diff change in between? 351579;1381929133;mircea_popescu;;;calc 180 *1.42 351580;1381929133;gribble;255.6 351581;1381929163;Apocalyptic;ystarnaud, diff change some hours ago 351582;1381929171;mircea_popescu;hm i wonder if btc reaches 200 351583;1381929193;ystarnaud;Apocalyptic: i know... but i was wondering if i missed a diff change somewhere or if it actually increased that much in 1 shot 351584;1381929202;mircea_popescu;it did man, like 41.8% 351585;1381929205;Apocalyptic;42% in one shoit 351586;1381929207;ystarnaud;thats nuts 351587;1381929210;ThickAsThieves;many people say the next bubble will go to 500 351588;1381929214;ThickAsThieves;i'm not one of them 351589;1381929229;Apocalyptic;$300 is a decent target 351590;1381929238;ThickAsThieves;200 is a decent target 351591;1381929256;mircea_popescu;just as long as it doesn't do retarded shit like shoot up through 1k or w/e. 351592;1381929267;ystarnaud;lol 351593;1381929298;mircea_popescu;you laugh now, but at some point it went from 15 to 260 351594;1381929307;mod6;^^^ 351595;1381929308;ystarnaud;i know i was there 351596;1381929317;mircea_popescu;i know you were hehe. 351597;1381929352;mircea_popescu;anyway, off to see the dentist. may your next hours be less painful than mine. 351598;1381929360;ystarnaud;fun stuff 351599;1381929362;ystarnaud;good luck 351600;1381929420;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.0058802 = 0.1176 BTC [+] {2} 351601;1381929786;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 134 @ 0.58175374 = 77.955 BTC [-] {5} 351602;1381930008;bitesak;as it is crazy times, chances of a 1000 rally and crash is possible 351603;1381930030;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 215 @ 0.00595997 = 1.2814 BTC [+] {10} 351604;1381930032;dexX7;why would it crash? 351605;1381930074;deadweasel;because there is not enough economy to support that price. 351606;1381930083;ThickAsThieves;chart reading is self-fulfilling as well 351607;1381930121;deadweasel;^ bingo, bubbles pop. 1k is a bubble. 351608;1381930152;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 64 @ 0.55968748 = 35.82 BTC [-] {2} 351609;1381930213;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 191 @ 0.00512074 = 0.9781 BTC [-] {6} 351610;1381930231;bitesak;screwed either way, so enjoy the ride 351611;1381930457;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 33 @ 0.00495211 = 0.1634 BTC [-] {4} 351612;1381930640;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.52760013 = 3.1656 BTC [-] {2} 351613;1381930823;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 50 @ 0.05158399 = 2.5792 BTC [-] {5} 351614;1381930945;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 0.051 = 0.204 BTC [-] 351615;1381931150;nubbins`;hi 351616;1381931186;nubbins`;wow, 41% jump? 351617;1381931240;kleeck;That sneak up on you? 351618;1381931271;nubbins`;ehh, i know ~38 was being predicted 351619;1381931279;nubbins`;big psychological jump when it crosses 40 tho 351620;1381931291;kleeck;Is there? 351621;1381931303;nubbins`;…yes? 351622;1381931316;nubbins`;i mean, i said wow and everything! 351623;1381931626;jborkl;.n 351624;1381931626;ozbot;2459656.18063 351625;1381931629;jborkl;.d 351626;1381931629;ozbot;267731249.48242 | Next Diff in 2001 blocks | Estimated Change: 72.1500% in 3d 20h 41m 2s 351627;1381931678;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 60 @ 0.0025 = 0.15 BTC [+] 351628;1381932104;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.59333332 = 5.34 BTC [+] {3} 351629;1381932470;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 500 @ 0.00115936 = 0.5797 BTC [-] {9} 351630;1381932714;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.37012001 = 0.7402 BTC [-] 351631;1381932775;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SMG] 4901 @ 0.00017 = 0.8332 BTC [-] {2} 351632;1381933507;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.64499999 = 12.9 BTC [+] {3} 351633;1381933508;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1500 @ 0.00115165 = 1.7275 BTC [-] {6} 351634;1381933550;dexX7;;;nethash 351635;1381933552;gribble;2459656.18063 351636;1381933568;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.67375 = 4.0425 BTC [+] {2} 351637;1381935130;the20year1;If any of you all are in RentalStarter, it would be beneficial to join us at #rentalstarter to talk about an option for US investors, should we have any. 351638;1381935520;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 111 @ 0.00589315 = 0.6541 BTC [+] {4} 351639;1381935642;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [LABCO] [PAID] 0.02096432 BTC to 40`316 shares, 52 satoshi per share 351640;1381935765;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 0.051 = 0.102 BTC [+] 351641;1381935802;kleeck;Updated At 10:55 a.m. ET. Report: Deal Reached On Senate Side 351642;1381935802;kleeck;Republican Sen. Kelly Ayotte of New Hampshire tells The Associated Press that it's her understanding that Senate leaders have reached a deal and that a formal announcement was forthcoming. 351643;1381935802;kleeck;"I understand they've come to an agreement but I'm going to let the leader announce that," Ayotte said. 351644;1381935818;kleeck;http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/10/16/235263755/hours-ahead-of-debt-ceiling-congress-scrambles-for-a-deal 351645;1381935818;ozbot;Hours Ahead Of Debt Deadline, Senate Leaders Race To Reach Deal : The Two-Way : NPR 351646;1381936008;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.11349999 = 0.227 BTC [+] {2} 351647;1381936204;pankkake;http://money.cnn.com/2013/10/15/technology/twitter-nyse/ (and loses more money than ever) 351648;1381936204;ozbot;Twitter picks the NYSE - Oct. 15, 2013 351649;1381936618;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6 BTC [-] 351650;1381936918;BigBitz;Oracle and Twitter. Nice. 351651;1381936925;BigBitz;Huge transfer and a huge IPO. 351652;1381937472;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 34 @ 0.00577941 = 0.1965 BTC [+] {2} 351653;1381937473;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.6 = 2.4 BTC [-] 351654;1381937716;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.37012 = 0.7402 BTC [-] 351655;1381937838;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 353 @ 0.00118944 = 0.4199 BTC [+] {4} 351656;1381937899;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 976 @ 0.00119 = 1.1614 BTC [+] 351657;1381939022;jurov;mircea_popescu: deposits pls 351658;1381939052;jurov;if the dentist didn't kill you 351659;1381939912;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 15 @ 0.56000002 = 8.4 BTC [-] {3} 351660;1381939973;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.56000001 = 6.16 BTC [-] {2} 351661;1381939974;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 0.051 = 0.102 BTC [+] 351662;1381940583;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 186 @ 0.00530324 = 0.9864 BTC [-] {16} 351663;1381941254;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6 BTC [+] 351664;1381941559;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.56 = 1.68 BTC [-] {2} 351665;1381942353;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.37012 BTC [-] 351666;1381943145;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00081354 = 2.1152 BTC [-] 351667;1381943450;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.56 = 1.12 BTC [-] 351668;1381943816;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.56 = 4.48 BTC [-] 351669;1381943877;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.55 = 3.3 BTC [-] 351670;1381944121;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.55 = 2.2 BTC [-] 351671;1381944426;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 888 @ 0.0009831 = 0.873 BTC [+] {2} 351672;1381945219;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.001199 = 0.1199 BTC [+] 351673;1381945341;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.55 = 1.1 BTC [-] 351674;1381945646;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5850 @ 0.00081596 = 4.7734 BTC [+] 351675;1381945829;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1750 @ 0.00081888 = 1.433 BTC [+] 351676;1381945890;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 0.051 = 0.255 BTC [+] 351677;1381945951;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.12699996 BTC [+] 351678;1381946012;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.53000001 = 5.3 BTC [-] 351679;1381946073;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.52855 = 3.1713 BTC [-] {2} 351680;1381946134;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.415 BTC [+] 351681;1381946378;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1500 @ 0.00019 = 0.285 BTC [-] {4} 351682;1381946379;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 10 @ 0.051 = 0.51 BTC [+] 351683;1381946561;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 81 @ 0.00499997 = 0.405 BTC [+] 351684;1381946606;dub;;;nethash 351685;1381946607;gribble;2469083.34273 351686;1381946726;lewicki;.d 351687;1381946727;ozbot;267731249.48242 | Next Diff in 1983 blocks | Estimated Change: 5.2016% in 13d 0h 41m 40s 351688;1381946744;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 0.051 = 0.255 BTC [+] 351689;1381946805;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 55 @ 0.00499998 = 0.275 BTC [+] 351690;1381946806;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 5 @ 0.12699997 = 0.635 BTC [+] 351691;1381946927;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.12699996 = 0.254 BTC [-] 351692;1381947038;jurov;;;bc,tslb 351693;1381947038;gribble;Error: "bc,tslb" is not a valid command. 351694;1381947042;jurov;;;tslb 351695;1381947045;gribble;Time since last block: 41 minutes and 29 seconds 351696;1381947112;jurov;and 2434 Unconfirmed Transactions.. stuff gonna get interesting 351697;1381947472;kleeck;what the? 351698;1381947477;kleeck;why so long? 351699;1381947845;jurov;kleeck: difficulty jump 351700;1381947943;kleeck;I didn't realize it adjusted so aggressively. 351701;1381947956;kleeck;I suppose it expects to be "grown into". 351702;1381948025;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.367 BTC [-] 351703;1381948026;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1181 @ 0.00019789 = 0.2337 BTC [+] 351704;1381948086;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 81 @ 0.002497 = 0.2023 BTC [+] 351705;1381948104;pankkake;1 hour block isn't unusual 351706;1381948154;jurov;yes it's getting better 351707;1381948208;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 25 @ 0.53 = 13.25 BTC [+] 351708;1381948239;pankkake;and well, now a block every two minutes. bitcoin's the new litecoin 351709;1381948285;Dimsler;i don't get it 351710;1381948301;pankkake;get what? 351711;1381948313;Dimsler;because of the lack of confirmation? 351712;1381948325;Dimsler;or faster paced confirmation 351713;1381948335;pankkake;of faster blocks, yes 351714;1381948371;Dimsler;that was bitcoins advantage of litecoin was the ability to maintain a realistic level of transactions 351715;1381948718;jcpham;moore's law be damned 351716;1381948723;jcpham;greedy asic miners 351717;1381949484;KRS-1;lawl 351718;1381949551;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.53 BTC [+] 351719;1381949612;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.0048 = 0.144 BTC [-] 351720;1381949734;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 24 @ 0.12694582 = 3.0467 BTC [-] {3} 351721;1381949918;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 35 @ 0.133 = 4.655 BTC [+] 351722;1381949978;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 35 @ 0.00470015 = 0.1645 BTC [-] {2} 351723;1381950100;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 23 @ 0.52747826 = 12.132 BTC [-] {5} 351724;1381950161;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.002497 = 2.497 BTC [+] 351725;1381950344;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 3826 @ 0.00249931 = 9.5624 BTC [+] {2} 351726;1381951442;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.58 BTC [+] 351727;1381951747;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6155 @ 0.00081495 = 5.016 BTC [-] 351728;1381952296;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1860 @ 0.00259451 = 4.8258 BTC [+] {5} 351729;1381952357;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 310 @ 0.00275644 = 0.8545 BTC [+] {2} 351730;1381952418;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.589 = 4.123 BTC [+] {3} 351731;1381952419;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1250 @ 0.0027696 = 3.462 BTC [+] {2} 351732;1381952479;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 80 @ 0.002849 = 0.2279 BTC [+] 351733;1381952662;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00082114 = 4.352 BTC [+] 351734;1381952723;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.59879999 = 5.988 BTC [+] {3} 351735;1381953150;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 79 @ 0.0047 = 0.3713 BTC [-] {2} 351736;1381953394;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 600 @ 0.00487791 = 2.9267 BTC [+] {4} 351737;1381953925;benkay;wow it is hilariously quiet in this parts 351738;1381954257;kleeck;so hilarious. 351739;1381956017;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 34 @ 0.00455897 = 0.155 BTC [-] {4} 351740;1381956372;Tom_Servo;$vwap ^oix 351741;1381956373;mpexbot;Tom_Servo: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. 351742;1381956377;Tom_Servo;:( 351743;1381956451;pankkake;$help 351744;1381956452;mpexbot;pankkake: (help [] []) -- This command gives a useful description of what does. is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. 351745;1381956469;pankkake;that was unhelpful 351746;1381956476;pankkake;$help help 351747;1381956477;mpexbot;pankkake: (help [] []) -- This command gives a useful description of what does. is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. 351748;1381956764;TomServo;!ticker m ^oix 351749;1381956764;assbot;[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / 196.1038293 / 196.1038293 (1385 shares, 470.20 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC) 351750;1381956871;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 407 @ 0.00450198 = 1.8323 BTC [-] {4} 351751;1381956980;pankkake;kSLAUGHTER is "Working on our Colored Coins Program." 351752;1381957026;jurov;and im busy bugfixing and monkey patching, awaiting irate emails from customers 351753;1381957054;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.00479999 = 0.96 BTC [+] {2} 351754;1381958823;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00082152 = 3.3682 BTC [+] {2} 351755;1381959197;pankkake;the USA is the new Cyprus http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2013/10/chase-bank-limits-cash-withdrawals-bans.html 351756;1381959555;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.64989991 BTC [+] 351757;1381959753;hdheuzbsiwhdb;Infowars reporting... 351758;1381960714;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1318 @ 0.00082029 = 1.0811 BTC [-] 351759;1381960836;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] [PAID] 29.73816216 BTC to 7`374 shares, 403284 satoshi per share 351760;1381961507;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5800001 BTC [-] 351761;1381961934;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5800001 BTC [-] 351762;1381962239;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.3611014 BTC [-] 351763;1381963337;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5800001 BTC [-] 351764;1381964895;jurov;S.NSA now on live.coinbr.com 351765;1381964916;jurov;sigh, should finally kill that and build something passable 351766;1381965350;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.561002 = 1.122 BTC [-] 351767;1381966937;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.561002 BTC [-] 351768;1381966997;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.561001 BTC [-] 351769;1381967360;nubbins`;;;seen mircea_popescu 351770;1381967360;gribble;mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 10 hours, 33 minutes, and 28 seconds ago: anyway, off to see the dentist. may your next hours be less painful than mine. 351771;1381967678;nubbins`;also: hi 351772;1381967851;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.5844 = 2.922 BTC [+] {2} 351773;1381968095;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5611 BTC [-] 351774;1381968156;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00082153 = 3.1218 BTC [+] 351775;1381968278;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 87 @ 0.0012 = 0.1044 BTC [+] 351776;1381968339;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2850 @ 0.00082187 = 2.3423 BTC [+] {2} 351777;1381968767;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 85 @ 0.0012 = 0.102 BTC [+] {2} 351778;1381968827;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.56100001 = 1.122 BTC [-] {2} 351779;1381968888;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6395 BTC [+] 351780;1381969071;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.56105001 = 1.1221 BTC [-] {2} 351781;1381970352;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.56100001 = 1.122 BTC [-] 351782;1381970413;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1017 @ 0.00082029 = 0.8342 BTC [-] 351783;1381971206;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.562 = 2.248 BTC [+] 351784;1381971759;mike_c;;;nethash 351785;1381971759;gribble;2421866.55514 351786;1381971877;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2003 @ 0.0008142 = 1.6308 BTC [-] {2} 351787;1381972243;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1334 @ 0.00081947 = 1.0932 BTC [+] {2} 351788;1381972492;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2013/snsa-first-product-the-cardano/#comment-95594 351789;1381972530;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: answered (a little less harshly) 351790;1381972573;mircea_popescu;there's basically this stable of people i've humiliated over the years who somehow inexplicably figure that if they make the same types of mistakes moar 351791;1381972575;mircea_popescu;it'll all wash. 351792;1381972644;asciilifeform;didn't know the chap was a catalogued troll 351793;1381972681;mircea_popescu;he's not really a catalogued troll, he's this kid who figures he's pretty smart 351794;1381972692;mircea_popescu;who knows, in his social circle perhaps he is. obviously bitcoin is a little more demanding. 351795;1381973463;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SMG] 659 @ 0.00017222 = 0.1135 BTC [-] 351796;1381973646;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SMG] 1818 @ 0.000151 = 0.2745 BTC [-] {3} 351797;1381973768;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.00515049 = 0.103 BTC [-] {3} 351798;1381973829;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.562 BTC [+] 351799;1381974012;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.562 BTC [+] 351800;1381974439;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3943 @ 0.0001937 = 0.7638 BTC [-] {3} 351801;1381974622;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 81 @ 0.00514023 = 0.4164 BTC [-] {4} 351802;1381974805;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 66 @ 0.00479075 = 0.3162 BTC [-] {2} 351803;1381974866;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5995 BTC [+] 351804;1381974867;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00082663 = 6.861 BTC [+] {3} 351805;1381975515;kleeck;Anyone have the scoop on CoinTerra? 351806;1381975529;kleeck;I was told my an unreliable source that they may not be meeting their hefty NRE payment. 351807;1381975562;mircea_popescu;kleeck we might have been told the same by the same unreliable source. 351808;1381975571;kleeck;:) 351809;1381975579;kleeck;I was hoping for a real source! 351810;1381975587;kleeck;I'll scour the googlenets. 351811;1381975604;mircea_popescu;nothing factual afaik. might ask the guy for your blog. 351812;1381975623;jborkl;There is a reason I did not write a article 351813;1381975644;kleeck;What blog is that? 351814;1381975666;kleeck;jborkl, do you know anything about this? 351815;1381975674;kleeck;is it all "leaked" info or what? 351816;1381975692;jborkl;I went by and saw them in person 351817;1381975709;kleeck;Oh? 351818;1381975731;kleeck;And they were all running around, scrounging for change in the couch cushions? 351819;1381975770;mircea_popescu;lol 351820;1381975798;kleeck;"We're only $3,000,000 shy of making the NRE payment!" 351821;1381975802;jborkl;No, they were professional and spent time answering questions 351822;1381975822;kleeck;I'd expect as much. 351823;1381975827;kleeck;What news did they offer you? 351824;1381975845;jborkl;Well I stopped by unexpected 351825;1381975865;kleeck;Did you write this up somewhere? I heard this from the infamous iCEBREAKER. 351826;1381975872;jborkl;But, there were a few things keeping me from placing a order 351827;1381975881;kleeck;Do tell! 351828;1381975951;jborkl;The main thing, they expected to be a 100 to 200 million company, I asked what else they were making besides BTC miners and they didn't have a answer 351829;1381976003;kleeck;Wha... 351830;1381976027;jborkl;I just do not that is realistic since 28nm is the end of the road for now 351831;1381976058;kleeck;Did they state that they have a $5M NRE payment? 351832;1381976077;jborkl;No, but I did not ask about that 351833;1381976092;kleeck;Hm. I'm wondering where this rumour came from. I can't find any verification. 351834;1381976194;jborkl;That does sound correct. I have a good friend that works in worldwide high temp chip. I brought up making bitcoin Asic- he ran through the math for me and it did not work 351835;1381976208;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5621 BTC [-] 351836;1381976219;jborkl;Unless you were first and took preordees 351837;1381976223;jborkl;Orders 351838;1381976279;jborkl;He thought $10 million to get a 28nm to market was a fair back of the napkin # 351839;1381976321;dexX7;why didn't you publish your ct reportß 351840;1381976365;jborkl;Because I don't know what to say. I can not figure out if it is one or the other 351841;1381976380;jborkl;They are using a plant in Taiwan for sure 351842;1381976394;jborkl;Well, that is the plab 351843;1381976397;jborkl;Plan 351844;1381976420;jborkl;But tape out is late 351845;1381976477;kleeck;Did they say why? 351846;1381976507;dexX7;I can not figure out if it is one or the other << so what is the ,"one" and the "other"? 351847;1381976574;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00082273 = 3.1264 BTC [-] 351848;1381976581;mircea_popescu;http://imgur.com/3lHoIcQ 351849;1381976582;ozbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 351850;1381976587;mircea_popescu;where the fuck did i get that link from ? 351851;1381976611;kleeck;i dont even 351852;1381976624;jborkl_;No, but I can run through some basic math, from custom mining stuff I picked up today 351853;1381976695;mircea_popescu;a nm found it. 351854;1381976700;jborkl_;$320 for a board - populated and assembled. 38 GH - 15 for a clearance cooler- 15 for 1/6 of a power supply 351855;1381976740;jborkl_;And $5 misc before you buy chips. The only way it works out is if the chips are almost free 351856;1381976757;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.5612 = 2.806 BTC [-] {2} 351857;1381976781;jborkl_;So, you can not dump $10 million at this point into development for a faster process 351858;1381976792;jborkl_;It makes no sense 351859;1381976825;mircea_popescu;jborkl_ i suspect a good chunk of the people mining today are mining to obtain bitcoin, not to obtain dollars. 351860;1381976833;kleeck;^ 351861;1381976834;mircea_popescu;as the old saying goes, "money is no object" 351862;1381976855;kleeck;It depends on the miner's goal. 351863;1381976858;jborkl_;True but they want VC money and a VC valuation 351864;1381976882;mircea_popescu;yeah, this is no argument re what you were saying about cointerra 351865;1381976887;kleeck;That will be difficult. THey are about three to six months too late for that, imo. 351866;1381976899;mircea_popescu;but in the more general form, "you can not dump $10 million"... well, depends who you are. 351867;1381976911;jborkl_;Well that is true mp 351868;1381976937;jborkl_;I can only say if it makes sense to me 351869;1381977004;kleeck;You have to keep in mind that there are miners who believe that a Bitcoin will be orders of magnitude more valuable then it currently is. So present day ROI (in fiat) isn't an issue for them. 351870;1381977081;mircea_popescu;especially iof the miners come as a business expense. 351871;1381977129;jborkl_;Well, I know of in private hands- 4000 BFL chips that have no home 351872;1381977141;jborkl_;That is just what I know of 351873;1381977186;Vexual;part of friedcats business has been selling big coin 351874;1381977213;jborkl_;And what I picked up today is top notch for less than $400 (not including chips) 351875;1381977280;jborkl_;Size of a postcard, maybe a little bigger 351876;1381977291;jborkl_;Oversized postcard 351877;1381977427;Vexual;shits gonna start becoming a hobby even for chip manufacturers\ 351878;1381977511;Vexual;thisngs are quickly approaching a point where savings in chip manufacturing will have a huge impact on profitabilty 351879;1381977655;nubbins`;yah 351880;1381977709;jborkl_;They were nice, had a real office in a nice building. I think the plan is to really make something 351881;1381977719;Vexual;who dat? 351882;1381977733;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00082273 = 1.4809 BTC [-] 351883;1381977734;jborkl_;Oh where this conv really started 351884;1381977742;jborkl_;Cointerra 351885;1381977744;Vexual;terra? 351886;1381977749;Vexual;yah 351887;1381977754;Vexual;you bought hw? 351888;1381977771;jborkl_;I just can not put all the math together to make it work for them 351889;1381977796;Vexual;noone has made the pro hardware that become derigeiure yet 351890;1381977800;jborkl_;Buy that is my worry, from what I have seen in the past in btc 351891;1381977843;Vexual;terra and am are positioned to make that excellent hardware in my drunken opinion 351892;1381977981;Vexual;to design something now that wont last a few years is throwing money away 351893;1381978232;jborkl_;Well, that very well could be 351894;1381978244;Vexual;http://www.sea-doo.com/watercraft/sea-doo-spark.html 351895;1381978245;ozbot;Spark 2- or 3-Seat Personal Watercraft: Easy to Ride, Perfect for Family Fun | Sea-Doo US 351896;1381978277;Vexual;half the price of a normal seadoo, same power to weight, half the energy conspumption 351897;1381978295;Vexual;good design 351898;1381978404;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 42314 @ 0.00017178 = 7.2687 BTC [-] {11} 351899;1381978443;Vexual;theres no money in rushing a half arsed design to market naymore 351900;1381978465;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 7686 @ 0.000167 = 1.2836 BTC [-] 351901;1381978475;mircea_popescu;amen to that. 351902;1381978587;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 50000 @ 0.0001532 = 7.66 BTC [-] {12} 351903;1381978993;mircea_popescu;.d 351904;1381978994;ozbot;267731249.48242 | Next Diff in 1909 blocks | Estimated Change: 23.7543% in 10d 2h 11m 36s 351905;1381979052;Vexual;its interesting to see these industrial innovations changing the new reserve currency as america loses it's grasp that was built with industrial innovation 351906;1381979131;mircea_popescu;i enjoyed reading the retartdation of the us socialists 351907;1381979159;mircea_popescu;"we hope the evil people insisting we stop spending money we don't have learned their lesson!!! we can never be convinced to put away the credit card!!!" 351908;1381979166;Vexual;can you distill it for me here? 351909;1381979245;Vexual;and when the welfare runs out all the expenses go on actual credit cards? 351910;1381979287;mircea_popescu;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260225.20 351911;1381979289;ozbot;The biggest thief in the Bitcoinica debacle? MtGox 351912;1381979293;mircea_popescu;the drama that just won't die 351913;1381979295;Vexual;until the bank calculates that all your shitty possessions arent worth a pinch of shit 351914;1381979309;mircea_popescu;Vexual well... that looks like 2014 really. 351915;1381979334;Vexual;and the three retarded children are a liability 351916;1381979343;mircea_popescu;im curious who the bagholders will be. amusingly, it'll prolly be places like iran 351917;1381979352;Vexual;how so? 351918;1381979388;mircea_popescu;well the chinese are divesting themselves slowly of us paper, 351919;1381979392;mircea_popescu;i know i don't hold any 351920;1381979418;mircea_popescu;watch communist korea be the main foreign holder of us issued bonds or some shit. 351921;1381979437;Vexual;aust has direct currency trading with china since a few months 351922;1381979444;Vexual;usa didnt even notice 351923;1381979479;VanCleef;its legal to have sex with your daughter now in australia or uncle 351924;1381979481;Vexual;or they said" fair enough" 351925;1381979529;Vexual;i doubt that slovakistan 351926;1381979618;Vexual;what may surprise you, is that it is legal here for the police to beat you to death without a trial. 351927;1381979650;Vexual;so many similaities with outr geographical neighbours here in se asia 351928;1381979919;Vexual;and theres a maximum iq for police officers, work that out if were not someones evil experiment into police states 351929;1381980151;Vexual;luckily we have some that act dumb to get in 351930;1381980472;Vexual;compare that to a similar organisation such as hezbollah 351931;1381980479;nubbins`;i thought they took 30 points off if you expressed an interest in a career in law enforcement 351932;1381980578;Vexual;well i guess it depends on the test, it's a two way street 351933;1381980666;BingoBoingo;Who all is disturbed by Taaki's spurt of activity seemingly to rehabilitate himself? 351934;1381980719;Vexual;whats a taaki? 351935;1381980789;Vexual;perhaps you have touched on an allusion i am making 351936;1381980829;Vexual;while the foam from aust pol and hezbollah reaches a similar height in politics, the input changes the output 351937;1381980852;Vexual;and in bitcoin we have a unique, as yet untyested case 351938;1381980903;Vexual;my hypothesis is that bitcoin is quite unstoppable 351939;1381981003;mircea_popescu;Vexual http://trilema.com/2012/amir-taaki-has-done-and-continues-to-do-huge-disservice-to-anyone-serious-involved-in-bitcoin/ 351940;1381981114;Vexual;i read thge last line, too stupid to live 351941;1381981184;mircea_popescu;works. 351942;1381981191;nubbins`;hahaha 351943;1381981198;nubbins`;that whole last paragraph is a gas 351944;1381981206;Vexual;thanks for the distillation, i was irked by reading ums and ahs 351945;1381981216;nubbins`;"like uh…" 351946;1381981386;mircea_popescu;So here you have like a currency, which started out from zero dollars, and there was an example like somebody bought pizza, for like thirty thousand bitcoins, and now each bitcoin is worth like ten dollars. And the reason is, is a lot of these people who are like technological people, they look at this system and they say (she says?) like wow this has like massive potential. 351947;1381981417;mircea_popescu;it's really very high grade stupid distillate. 351948;1381981423;BingoBoingo;First there's Taaki's Darkwallet project (Whatever the fuck makes a wallet dark, is it the melanin?) then there's his recent surge in activity on the forum. 351949;1381981424;nubbins`;lel 351950;1381981437;nubbins`;like wow! 351951;1381981452;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo it's a dark wallet cause he's from morocco or w/e. 351952;1381981467;Vexual;heres a simple maths question 351953;1381981479;Vexual;if i have 0 funds 351954;1381981503;mircea_popescu;no. 351955;1381981503;Vexual;then everyday for one year i earn 0.05 more than the day before, how much do I have after one year? 351956;1381981505;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Honestly I though it was a dark wallet because even light can't escape the gravity pulling them coinz to his wallet. 351957;1381981517;mircea_popescu;if you have 0 funds the only answer for you is no. 351958;1381981518;Vexual;lol 351959;1381981535;Vexual;ok i start with 0.05 then, if you find it incomprehensible 351960;1381981553;mircea_popescu;;;calc 365*364/2 *0.05 351961;1381981553;gribble;3321.5 351962;1381981564;Vexual;fast 351963;1381981607;Vexual;i like how you cant do 365*365 351964;1381981613;Vexual;straight pimpin 351965;1381981641;Vexual;pimptax error 351966;1381981656;mircea_popescu;you're drunk aren't you. 351967;1381981664;nubbins`;two nights in a row! 351968;1381981667;Vexual;cant play with 0 351969;1381981682;Vexual;i don't talk to you every time im drunk 351970;1381981704;mircea_popescu;"I am sure the lawyer is not intentionaly commiting purgery" 351971;1381981718;mircea_popescu;i didn't know ver can't speal. 351972;1381981741;Vexual;pergery is lawyer surgery 351973;1381981742;mircea_popescu;;;wk purgation 351974;1381981743;gribble;http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/purgation | English[edit]. Noun[edit]. purgation (plural purgations). the act of purging, especially by the use of a purgative · cleansing from sin or guilt. Retrieved from ... 351975;1381981743;ozbot;purgation - Wiktionary 351976;1381981758;Vexual;dissecting the real 351977;1381981793;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Since there are many months until my next court date I took your advice. I've demoted the drive through counsel to paralegal. 351978;1381981840;mircea_popescu;is she hot ? 351979;1381981878;Vexual;mps lawyer tries hard to get him bail 351980;1381981961;mircea_popescu;"but some people are under the mistaken assumption we (Intersango) were some kind of rich company" 351981;1381981996;nubbins`;i thought it was n(n+1)/2? 351982;1381982020;mircea_popescu;lol this is funnay. "o noes, some people are under the mistaken assumption we were a company and like really cool and professional and rich and shit, which is what we were trying to falsely project all along! o noes, and in fact we went splat on the cold sidewalk of reality and now our own web of lies is fucking us in the butt! how unfair!" 351983;1381982030;mircea_popescu;nubbins` mircea_popescu> you're drunk aren't you. 351984;1381982041;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: The actual paralegal at the firm is. The drive-through attourney is a dude so any orgasms would have to be strictly a power thing. 351985;1381982064;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo therein lies the proof he has more experience than you. HIS paralegal is hot. 351986;1381982066;nubbins`;depends on whether it's a leap year too, i guess 351987;1381982092;Vexual;one is always at an advantage when ones counsel has a vested interest in your success by measure of their own quality of life 351988;1381982118;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: That doesn't speak for his competency though... He apparently spends more on her than the building or his "family"... 351989;1381982135;mircea_popescu;maybe she's worth it. 351990;1381982143;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Probably 351991;1381982149;Vexual;by definition 351992;1381982186;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5995 BTC [+] 351993;1381982224;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: He sniped her away from the State's attourney's office when he left there. 351994;1381982264;nubbins`;cokeheads next door sound like they're throwing each other at the walls 351995;1381982268;mircea_popescu;the one da that absolutely hated me of the numerous das that didn't like me 351996;1381982276;mircea_popescu;could never get past the fact that i took his secretary. 351997;1381982286;mircea_popescu;the woman was probably the best at her job i ever met. 351998;1381982295;Vexual;sounds like a mcafee story mp 351999;1381982300;nubbins`;lel 352000;1381982312;mircea_popescu;oh ?! 352001;1381982315;Vexual;nubs you need a sorcerer? cokes heads are easy 352002;1381982324;nubbins`;did you bury yourself in sand and place a box over your head when the da came to find his secretary? 352003;1381982369;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6 BTC [+] 352004;1381982379;Vexual;ill have those cokeheads out and a tasty first year science student in there by two weeks 352005;1381982397;nubbins`;no self-respecting science student would move in there, it's a dive 352006;1381982458;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: Graduate students might move there, I hear they lack self respect... 352007;1381982471;nubbins`;masochists can still have self respect 352008;1381982529;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: Real masochists are probably the minimum required to be people. Of course they have self respect. 352009;1381982648;Vexual;give me the general sector, ive got butterflies that make daenerys targaryen and her dragons look like a downs syndrome eating sand 352010;1381982658;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: A good masochist is at the least going to have a solid sense of who to submit to. 352011;1381982692;nubbins`;whereas your average grad student doesn't even get that much 352012;1381982763;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: Nope, the average grad student must submit to whoever they are stuck with. 352013;1381982795;Vexual;i made some laser patents for my uni when i was there 352014;1381982831;Vexual;they never even degreed me 352015;1381982833;Vexual;cunts 352016;1381982856;nubbins`;if i'd known better, i wouldn't have gone to university 352017;1381982878;Vexual;same here 352018;1381982891;Vexual;took 4 years to work that out 352019;1381982900;nubbins`;6! 352020;1381982902;nubbins`;for me 352021;1381982939;Vexual;the hecs debt taught me enough about tax minimisation to make it worthwhile 352022;1381982967;nubbins`;heh. my debt drove me halfway across the globe 352023;1381982980;Vexual;thats a good thing? 352024;1381982989;nubbins`;in retrospect, yes 352025;1381983005;Vexual;its just life, its what you get 352026;1381983057;nubbins`;agreed 352027;1381983076;nubbins`;although it's nice to now have a much bigger say in what i get 352028;1381983114;mircea_popescu;nubbins` lolwut ? he never came. 352029;1381983123;mircea_popescu;i just paid her more. a lot more. 352030;1381983135;nubbins`;ah, i was making a mcaffee joke 352031;1381983144;nubbins`;that's how he sez he slipped past the cops 352032;1381983148;mircea_popescu;o 352033;1381983158;mircea_popescu;i must have been missing out on something with this mcafee stuff 352034;1381983161;Vexual;mcafee i9s my hero 352035;1381983167;nubbins`;it was priceless. 352036;1381983196;nubbins`;3 or 4 essays in, the news sites started getting the feeling that the guy was completely unhinged 352037;1381983212;BingoBoingo;I wonder how long it will take for McAffee to become a regular here if he doesn't relapse into the bath salts. 352038;1381983217;nubbins`;haha 352039;1381983230;nubbins`;he probably frequents -otc 352040;1381983291;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: Still, could be worse he could frequent -dev 352041;1381983297;Vexual;he only had bathsalts coz he was in belieze 352042;1381983315;Vexual;im sure hes back on the peruvian flake now 352043;1381983350;nubbins`;what a freak 352044;1381983357;Vexual;bold video tho 352045;1381983380;nubbins`;brassy as a doorknob! 352046;1381983416;Vexual;like i said when burnside shut down, that cat knows how to belieze 352047;1381983470;nubbins`;one more session for me before bed 352048;1381983486;nubbins`;have to put together a proof of a book tomorrow 352049;1381983512;BingoBoingo;Vexual: There's were no problems with Belize in that situation though. All of the problems were with Burnside. 352050;1381983583;Vexual;yes, but he could have moved to belieze and got a lab in his shed if he wanted with the coin that site was making 352051;1381983612;nubbins`;think of the boxes under which he could hide! 352052;1381983627;Vexual;why anyone would want to stay in america with internet income is beyond me 352053;1381983673;nubbins`;now that's just silly 352054;1381983707;Vexual;i mean think about it, your friends and relatives are american! whats the point 352055;1381983749;Vexual;maybe only 98% or world popuation get it 352056;1381983807;Vexual;theres a whole fantastic world out there 352057;1381983832;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WCFUGCOLLU 352058;1381983833;ozbot;Take The Money And Run - The Steve Miller Band (Lyrics + HQ) - YouTube 352059;1381983841;nubbins`;this may come as a surprise, but most people have no particular interest in leaving the place they were born and raised in 352060;1381983843;Vexual;now fuck off dubs its one wideo 352061;1381983859;Vexual;not me, i get itchy feet 352062;1381983875;nubbins`;well, we're in the minority 352063;1381983881;Vexual;you too? 352064;1381983900;nubbins`;big world, lots to see 352065;1381983959;Vexual;we really live in the best time ever 352066;1381984015;nubbins`;eh, who's to say 352067;1381984055;mircea_popescu;i liked some of the previous best times ever better. 352068;1381984072;Vexual;i can be anywhere on earthg tommorrow for fuck all money 352069;1381984095;Vexual;and bitcoin 352070;1381984161;Vexual;depends how hard one loses 352071;1381984180;nubbins`;do they sob, or just become angry? 352072;1381984199;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.6 = 3 BTC [+] {2} 352073;1381984214;Vexual;i see everything as a win, but im unstable 352074;1381984221;mircea_popescu;so you fuck a girl in the small hole. next morning, ask her how she feels. "sore, it's nice." 352075;1381984224;mircea_popescu;true story. 352076;1381984234;mircea_popescu;i don't think sore losers are as much a problem as stupid losers are. 352077;1381984264;Vexual;thats a sore winner 352078;1381984326;Vexual;another sign of the beautiful times, the sexual revolution has already happened 352079;1381984386;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Well, I mean sore losers can learn. Stupid losers can't. The point of having lost is losing hurts. The sore loser wants to win because being sore sucks. Missing the championship sucks. The stupid loser just thinks they forgot to bring the right totems of luck or some shit. 352080;1381984397;Vexual;now if you want your back door slammed so hard it hurts, its your perrogative 352081;1381984407;mircea_popescu;something like that 352082;1381984470;Vexual;i cant even get vanned coz ive got a van sized hole and a big fuckin excavator 352083;1381984651;BingoBoingo;So... I though I read this earlier, but is smidge Usagi? 352084;1381984701;BingoBoingo;I mean no offense if smidge isn't. I mean Usagi is one of the dirtiest words in BTC. 352085;1381984726;Vexual;smidge is smidge 352086;1381984778;Vexual;he goes to work and buys up or down 352087;1381984784;chsados;so whats the effin deal with labcoin.... if they are scamming why am i still getting divs lol 352088;1381984786;mircea_popescu;someone said so, i said i didn't believe so, 352089;1381984792;mircea_popescu;x is usagi is sort of a running joke here 352090;1381984803;mircea_popescu;chsados how much did you get ? 352091;1381984808;chsados;lemme check 352092;1381984809;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.00548999 = 0.1098 BTC [+] 352093;1381984833;nubbins`;52 satoshi per share 352094;1381984835;chsados;Asset: LABCOIN 352095;1381984836;chsados;Shares: 179 352096;1381984836;chsados;Paid: 0.00018934 BTC 352097;1381984836;chsados;Transaction ID: D 2596 179 0.89395100 1380905340 352098;1381984840;nubbins`;or something 352099;1381984853;mircea_popescu;http://i3.irishmirror.ie/incoming/article2170700.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Eric-Eoin-Marques90238109-2170700.jpg 352100;1381984860;mircea_popescu;is it just me or does this look distinctly medieval ? 352101;1381984877;Vexual;yes medieval, the masonry is very wonky 352102;1381984900;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Ah. mircea_popescu Give dude cop a skirt and it looks purely bronze age 352103;1381984942;Vexual;i souyld have used a semicolon there 352104;1381984960;Vexual;dang i love those 352105;1381984993;chsados;a dude or a woman - you decide (its pat!) http://www.youtube.com/attribution_link?a=9F_EDi-Yi4la8Iz18RQiKw&u=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dha7smLPz2GY%26feature%3Dshare 352106;1381985042;Vexual;woman 352107;1381985061;Vexual;melanesian extraction 352108;1381985090;Vexual;she'll send you swimming bra 352109;1381985141;Vexual;thats fuckedhhap 352110;1381985175;Vexual;is it woody allen? 352111;1381985425;nubbins`;http://imgur.com/WvwwiI0 352112;1381985425;ozbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 352113;1381985465;Vexual;scotland yard will scotland yard 352114;1381985477;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KCBLA-fuVw 352115;1381985478;ozbot;Snoop Dogg & Wiz Khalifa "French Inhale" - YouTube 352116;1381985480;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00082731 = 2.8129 BTC [+] {2} 352117;1381985560;Vexual;barry! 352118;1381985782;Vexual;hold it till you sold it 352119;1381985785;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10000 @ 0.00015 = 1.5 BTC [-] 352120;1381985846;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 13005 @ 0.000139 = 1.8077 BTC [-] {3} 352121;1381986079;nubbins`;ok time to sleep 352122;1381986131;Vexual;ciao bella 352123;1381986624;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CQLAhNlbfQ 352124;1381986624;ozbot;Happy Mondays - Step On - YouTube 352125;1381986885;Vexual;so do i get some mp fat sebs to watch my back when i setp off in bucharest or wot? 352126;1381986944;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00082273 = 3.2909 BTC [-] 352127;1381987034;Vexual;romania aint no joke im told? 352128;1381987273;Vexual;mircea will you join me on that back sea marina making friends with drink? 352129;1381987370;mircea_popescu;meh, i hate the east side. 352130;1381987380;Vexual;med? 352131;1381987677;mircea_popescu;Vexual http://trilema.com/2011/se-poate-fuma-o-tigara/ there, that's for you. 352132;1381987811;Vexual;well if you feel comfortable at home, and seek adventure, you could always visit the barossa valley 352133;1381987831;Vexual;miniature beef and ecellent spakling white 352134;1381987978;Vexual;the vines are as old as our country and the waitresses are too far from home to drive 352135;1381988164;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 833 @ 0.00118999 = 0.9913 BTC [-] 352136;1381988174;Vexual;and a three piece suit is derigeur if you pay for the full degustation 352137;1381988225;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 950 @ 0.0011899 = 1.1304 BTC [-] 352138;1381988247;Vexual;those crazy arabs can keep all the virgins, ill take the sluts 352139;1381988286;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 193 @ 0.00118899 = 0.2295 BTC [-] 352140;1381988317;Vexual;and when you're returning from"the barossa" the breathaliser is always broken 352141;1381988335;mircea_popescu;hey, this came out pretty good. 352142;1381988339;mircea_popescu;write it down. 352143;1381988347;pankkake;I'll take the virgins and make them sluts 352144;1381988386;Vexual;yeah but in the afterlife that gets boring 352145;1381988430;Vexual;ill bet mp dont train every noob he gets 352146;1381988434;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G-BP3qwZ-I 352147;1381988434;ozbot;Paul Simon - The Afterlife - YouTube 352148;1381988816;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8Tiz6INF7I 352149;1381988816;ozbot;Hit the road Jack - YouTube 352150;1381988820;Vexual;girls know it too 352151;1381988828;pankkake;.d 352152;1381988828;ozbot;267731249.48242 | Next Diff in 1899 blocks | Estimated Change: 13.3172% in 11d 10h 1m 18s 352153;1381988888;pankkake;;;estimate 352154;1381988889;gribble;Next difficulty estimate | 303728842.509 based on data since last change | 341902384.289 based on data for last three days 352155;1381988993;Vexual;general trend is that difficulty is on the rise 352156;1381989006;pankkake;oh really 352157;1381989013;Vexual;check again 352158;1381989151;Vexual;what that means is some of us are getting range ropvers for xmas 352159;1381989231;Vexual;or a crappy pergeot if you prefer 352160;1381989263;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.0054 = 0.216 BTC [+] {2} 352161;1381989344;Vexual;do you live in paris pankkake? 352162;1381989393;Vexual;because a purgeot will kill less pedestrians on your way home from getting drunk 352163;1381989439;Vexual;they make them like that so people just bounce off 352164;1381989628;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 190 @ 0.00539999 = 1.026 BTC [-] {2} 352165;1381989686;pankkake;yes I'm in paris 352166;1381989706;pankkake;purgeot? 352167;1381989759;pankkake;peugeot maybe 352168;1381989802;Vexual;beautiful city 352169;1381989842;Vexual;pugot 352170;1381989896;Vexual;sassy girls and sassier bums 352171;1381989908;pankkake;indeed 352172;1381990145;Vexual;now im imagining a polynesian woodey allen instead of a parisian waitress 352173;1381990177;Vexual;damn that guy 352174;1381990521;Vexual;crazy horse paris must be the best burlesque on earth 352175;1381990787;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.3611014 = 1.4444 BTC [-] 352176;1381990791;Vexual;protip,: get the best champagne and the chionese get told its full 352177;1381990862;Vexual;and they sit you next to a texan oil widow 352178;1381990970;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 28 @ 0.00541601 = 0.1516 BTC [+] {2} 352179;1381991445;Vexual;worse wyas to lose 100 euro, i can think of a few 352180;1381991449;Vexual;*1000 352181;1381991519;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.0057599 = 0.144 BTC [+] 352182;1381991695;Vexual;doest all thine brut cruvee come from france micrce? 352183;1381991764;Vexual;i should like toi freight you a bottle or two of aussie chapers 352184;1381991772;Vexual;*champers 352185;1381992434;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 33 @ 0.0054 = 0.1782 BTC [-] {2} 352186;1381992666;virtuals;;;ticker 352187;1381992666;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 151.51199, Best ask: 152.99859, Bid-ask spread: 1.48660, Last trade: 152.99865, 24 hour volume: 36781.17277943, 24 hour low: 144.20004, 24 hour high: 163.00000, 24 hour vwap: 154.21132 352188;1381993654;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00082768 = 4.8833 BTC [+] 352189;1381994996;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 17 @ 0.0069 = 0.1173 BTC [-] 352190;1381996948;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3986 @ 0.00082388 = 3.284 BTC [-] 352191;1381997376;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2250 @ 0.00082386 = 1.8537 BTC [-] {2} 352192;1381997803;assbot;[MPEX] [S.NSA] 1000000 @ 0.0001 = 100 BTC 352193;1381997969;jurov;lol vexual 352194;1381998128;dub;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4AchHTN-XQ 352195;1381998128;ozbot;Straya Day - YouTube 352196;1381998232;bitguy101;hey all ! 352197;1381998293;bitguy101;Satoshi Poker just went public, thinking about buying a few shares. 352198;1381998332;pankkake;and you are? 352199;1381998373;bitguy101;lurker 352200;1381998389;pankkake;and I'm the queen of England 352201;1381998962;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00082383 = 2.8834 BTC [-] {2} 352202;1381999623;ColdHardMetal;whoever runs bitcoin-assets.com might want to consider taking off that BTCTC banner thing on the right side. 352203;1382000563;gecko_x2;hey 352204;1382000579;gecko_x2;anyone know what labcoin shareholders should do yet? 352205;1382000587;gecko_x2;in regards to btct? 352206;1382000777;pankkake;labcoin shareholders should kill themselves 352207;1382000782;pankkake;make the world a better place 352208;1382001005;bitguy101;pankkake you sound like 1 big troll 352209;1382001028;pankkake;at least I'm not a scammer 352210;1382001088;bitguy101;meh talking about new investments = scamming in panktrolls book get a life 352211;1382001569;bitesak;;;ticker 352212;1382001570;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 155.87564, Best ask: 155.99996, Bid-ask spread: 0.12432, Last trade: 155.99996, 24 hour volume: 34423.15201674, 24 hour low: 144.20004, 24 hour high: 162.97989, 24 hour vwap: 153.54552 352213;1382002256;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 77 @ 0.00483075 = 0.372 BTC [-] {2} 352214;1382002439;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 52 @ 0.00575983 = 0.2995 BTC [+] 352215;1382002500;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.36100009 = 0.722 BTC [-] 352216;1382002683;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 68 @ 0.0069 = 0.4692 BTC [-] 352217;1382002684;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.59 BTC [-] 352218;1382002685;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 133 @ 0.00575983 = 0.7661 BTC [+] {3} 352219;1382002805;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 78 @ 0.00699999 = 0.546 BTC [+] 352220;1382002866;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.00576 = 0.144 BTC [+] 352221;1382003415;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 59 @ 0.0624 = 3.6816 BTC [+] 352222;1382004208;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 42 @ 0.0058 = 0.2436 BTC [+] 352223;1382004635;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.56850007 = 1.137 BTC [-] {2} 352224;1382004879;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3450 @ 0.00082537 = 2.8475 BTC [+] {2} 352225;1382005306;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.56200005 = 1.124 BTC [-] {2} 352226;1382005489;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 419 @ 0.00575983 = 2.4134 BTC [-] {2} 352227;1382006099;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00082299 = 8.806 BTC [-] {4} 352228;1382008539;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2238 @ 0.00082238 = 1.8405 BTC [-] {2} 352229;1382008905;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3629 @ 0.00082088 = 2.979 BTC [-] {2} 352230;1382009515;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 73 @ 0.00515005 = 0.376 BTC [-] {2} 352231;1382009637;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 312 @ 0.001199 = 0.3741 BTC [+] 352232;1382010308;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 381 @ 0.00277874 = 1.0587 BTC [+] {3} 352233;1382010613;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 550 @ 0.0008187 = 0.4503 BTC [-] 352234;1382010649;KRS1;git out me country, puff 352235;1382010994;pankkake;http://www.standard.co.uk/business/business-news/ubisoft-slumps-after-games-delay-forces-profit-warning-8883371.html −20% on a 1.4B market cap thingy 352236;1382010994;ozbot;Ubisoft slumps after games delay forces profit warning - Business News - Business - London Evening 352237;1382011223;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69348300 BTC to 1`386`966 shares, 50 satoshi per share 352238;1382011278;jurov;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1olur1/developer_rant_bitcoin_entrepreneurs_are_getting/ 352239;1382011279;ozbot;Developer Rant: Bitcoin "entrepreneurs" are getting out of hand. Reality = Them : Bitcoin 352240;1382011296;jurov;".../comments/1olur1/..." hahahaha 352241;1382011344;jurov;"Writing code is 10 mins hacking and 10 years experience." even ganjix chiming in 352242;1382011345;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] [PAID] 14.15236527 BTC to 369`417 shares, 3831 satoshi per share 352243;1382011355;pankkake;this reminds me of web entrepreneurs, not especially bitcoin 352244;1382011370;pankkake;though the web entrepreneurs seem to have learned 352245;1382011419;jurov;one just can't learn that, latest after freelancing on 2-3 projects 352246;1382011429;jurov;*one just can't NOT learn that 352247;1382011441;pankkake;indeed 352248;1382011467;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2450 @ 0.0008187 = 2.0058 BTC [-] 352249;1382011513;pankkake;http://web.archive.org/web/20110716202211/http://teddziuba.com/2011/07/the-craigslist-reverse-programmer-troll.html 352250;1382011514;ozbot;The Craigslist Reverse Programmer Troll 352251;1382011711;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] [PAID] 17.05967706 BTC to 369`417 shares, 4618 satoshi per share 352252;1382011956;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00081832 = 4.2553 BTC [-] {2} 352253;1382012748;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.0052 = 0.104 BTC [+] 352254;1382013541;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00081519 = 0.8152 BTC [-] 352255;1382013707;nubbins`;hi 352256;1382013977;pankkake;"Given the sheer amount of false informations posted in the original IPO discussion we are forced to self moderate this thread. " lolcoin, never disappointing 352257;1382014029;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1471 @ 0.00081868 = 1.2043 BTC [+] {2} 352258;1382014194;nubbins`;forced! 352259;1382014579;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3250 @ 0.0008227 = 2.6738 BTC [+] 352260;1382014639;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 40 @ 0.00699999 = 0.28 BTC [+] 352261;1382014944;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4479 @ 0.00082074 = 3.6761 BTC [-] 352262;1382015006;nubbins`;http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/trixie-a-fixture-in-downtown-st-john-s-passes-away-1.2100650 352263;1382015007;ozbot;Iconic character in downtown St. John's passes away - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News 352264;1382015066;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 55 @ 0.00521509 = 0.2868 BTC [-] {3} 352265;1382015078;ThickerThanThiev;paid 352266;1382015123;mircea_popescu;they need to make the nicks longer for you man 352267;1382015323;nubbins`;hahaha there's a remembrance page for trixie, it's priceless 352268;1382015331;nubbins`;"she threw hot coffee on me once and called me a cunt" 352269;1382015444;nubbins`;"she was on Duckworth Street politely asking people "Have ya got a quarter? Have ya got a quarter?" Then some guy walks by and it's "You tell your cocksuckin whore of a wife ta stop reading my goddamn mail, all RIGHT? It's an offence!", then without a beat she's back to the gentle "Have ya got a quarter?"" 352270;1382015446;nubbins`;lel 352271;1382015554;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.63559999 = 3.178 BTC [+] {3} 352272;1382015661;nubbins`;ok, last one 352273;1382015663;nubbins`;"the first time I ever heard her speak was one time when I was waiting for the bus on Water Street. She was standing in a shop doorway a few doors down and she looked right at me and yelled "I'll cut your cock off!"" 352274;1382015672;ThickAsThieves;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Di5NSU5yuKE 352275;1382015673;ozbot;Zhou Tonged - End of Silk Road - YouTube 352276;1382015676;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 100 @ 0.00699999 = 0.7 BTC [+] 352277;1382015975;AndrewJackson;And we'll all get zhou Tonged together! 352278;1382016118;mircea_popescu;This is coming From Salmon Andy, the immediate past credit manager of SNS Bank in 352279;1382016119;mircea_popescu;the Netherlands. There is a serious proposal about a bonded Account in SNS Bank i 352280;1382016119;mircea_popescu;would require you give Urgent Attention to. 352281;1382016136;mircea_popescu;scammor today. capitalises attention, doesn't capitalise ist person pronoun. 352282;1382016288;pankkake;indeed scammers have weird capitalizations 352283;1382016306;pankkake;I don't know why 352284;1382016422;nubbins`;Salmon Andy! 352285;1382016433;mircea_popescu;one thing that'd be pretty cool, would be for someone in a physch dept somewhere with a good handle of awk 352286;1382016444;mircea_popescu;to go through terrabytes of spam and mark the patters, make a study 352287;1382016450;TomServo;mircea_popescu: Will you at some point elaborate on the claim that states are mining? 352288;1382016455;nubbins`;"Hamburger Bill here, send your funds to xyz" 352289;1382016465;mircea_popescu;TomServo 50 years ? 352290;1382016469;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 500 @ 0.00081555 = 0.4078 BTC [-] 352291;1382016469;pankkake;I've seen ways to guess gender from writing style 352292;1382016470;TomServo;Aww. 352293;1382016478;mircea_popescu;ok ok. i promise it be less than 50 years. 352294;1382016484;mircea_popescu;that makes me better than most states. 352295;1382016491;TomServo;Hah 352296;1382016505;TomServo;You said you've seen evidence though? 352297;1382016518;mircea_popescu;yeah, there's evidence alright. 352298;1382016533;mircea_popescu;nubbins` you around ? 352299;1382016541;nubbins`;yep 352300;1382016548;mircea_popescu;kiss your wife dood. 352301;1382016558;nubbins`;too late, she just headed out on her bike 352302;1382016561;nubbins`;when she gets back? 352303;1382016568;mircea_popescu;hehe. works for me. 352304;1382016576;nubbins`;heraldry look OK? 352305;1382016583;mircea_popescu;quite. 352306;1382016596;nubbins`;great! i'm especially fond of the cow skull trim 352307;1382016619;nubbins`;she wanted to add more cocks, but felt it would be a bit trite 352308;1382016643;mircea_popescu;ppl are struggling to get the autoupdater to work, it's currently a complete mess, gdm scrolling everywhere and so on 352309;1382016652;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 916 @ 0.00119995 = 1.0992 BTC [+] {2} 352310;1382016654;mircea_popescu;pretty gloomy atmosphere and i'm suddenly shrieking with glee 352311;1382016674;mircea_popescu;everyone's "o wow that looks cool. second pause. oh shit you're going to want that implemented now won't you." 352312;1382016680;nubbins`;heh! 352313;1382016713;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 8091 @ 0.00121102 = 9.7984 BTC [+] {14} 352314;1382016717;nubbins`;you can also use the original boar that we submitted, of course, so that's a total of 7 supports 352315;1382016741;mircea_popescu;if i was going to make a bitch, is that all 6 shields are in the same exact shape 352316;1382016758;mircea_popescu;but that can wait a year. 352317;1382016774;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1300 @ 0.00122624 = 1.5941 BTC [+] {3} 352318;1382016790;nubbins`;yeah, she had a bit of tendonitis from work that slowed her down a lot at the end. would have liked to do a variety of shapes 352319;1382016840;mircea_popescu;and a porny one or two might work, given that people get to choose for themselves. 352320;1382016843;mircea_popescu;we see. 352321;1382016887;nubbins`;well, we *have* produced some fairly obscene artwork in the past, so ya know. everything's possible 352322;1382016902;mircea_popescu;link ? 352323;1382016918;nubbins`;one sec 352324;1382016954;nubbins`;http://dicksurgery.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/dick-surgery.png?w=490 352325;1382016959;nubbins`;http://thescope.ca/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/monsterbator-540.jpg 352326;1382016960;nubbins`;etc 352327;1382016996;mircea_popescu;ha, those cocks look sketchy. 352328;1382017018;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1897 @ 0.00122628 = 2.3263 BTC [+] 352329;1382017037;nubbins`;http://pinkeyeprints.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/amvi6-imgur.jpg 352330;1382017042;mircea_popescu;anyway. cool deal. 352331;1382017046;nubbins`;that one's a bit hard to read 352332;1382017066;nubbins`;yeah! i'm back and forth all day, we can deal with business whenever you've got the time 352333;1382019031;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 33 @ 0.00574999 = 0.1897 BTC [+] 352334;1382019214;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 35 @ 0.00575 = 0.2013 BTC [+] 352335;1382019515;Ogedei;anyone got friedcats email? 352336;1382019521;Ogedei;for share transfers 352337;1382019885;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00578985 = 0.579 BTC [+] {3} 352338;1382019946;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 80 @ 0.00578993 = 0.4632 BTC [+] {2} 352339;1382020007;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 60 @ 0.00579 = 0.3474 BTC [+] 352340;1382020129;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00081637 = 1.3062 BTC [+] 352341;1382021044;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.635 BTC [-] 352342;1382021166;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3845 @ 0.0008106 = 3.1168 BTC [-] 352343;1382021532;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1056 @ 0.00498718 = 5.2665 BTC [-] {29} 352344;1382021654;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 15 @ 0.3611014 = 5.4165 BTC [+] 352345;1382021837;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.0008106 = 1.378 BTC [-] 352346;1382022325;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6 BTC [-] 352347;1382023215;jcpham;http://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?ref=rss&id=2536492 352348;1382023216;ozbot;Barbarians at the Gateways - ACM Queue 352349;1382023545;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.59000001 BTC [-] 352350;1382023606;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 105 @ 0.00519999 = 0.546 BTC [+] {2} 352351;1382023667;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00081403 = 1.0582 BTC [+] 352352;1382023737;ThickAsThieves;http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/10/17/free_cocaine_giveaway_from_russian_search_engine_yandex/ 352353;1382024214;pankkake;do they accept bitcoins like Baidu? that would be full circle 352354;1382024248;mircea_popescu;nubbins` http://trilema.com/2013/eulora-october-update/ there's your ssw. #3! 352355;1382024289;ThickAsThieves;dangit i lost my cookie again 352356;1382024381;mircea_popescu;yandes is giving free cooke 352357;1382024521;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1950 @ 0.0008106 = 1.5807 BTC [-] 352358;1382024525;nubbins`;mircea_popescu: great! 352359;1382024758;KRS-1;free coke? 352360;1382024948;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 28 @ 0.00519959 = 0.1456 BTC [-] 352361;1382025253;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.00519959 = 0.13 BTC [-] 352362;1382025375;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00081438 = 4.3162 BTC [+] {2} 352363;1382026351;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.00519959 = 0.104 BTC [-] 352364;1382026475;mircea_popescu;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnOPoAF136A 352365;1382026475;ozbot;Opening a Combo lock with a Shim - YouTube 352366;1382026534;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1450 @ 0.00081473 = 1.1814 BTC [+] 352367;1382026897;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: i vaguely recall this method being described in 'Phrack' in the '90s. 352368;1382026976;mircea_popescu;"all you people are good for is smoking crack and shimmying locks!" 352369;1382027022;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00082195 = 3.781 BTC [+] {3} 352370;1382027277;deadweasel;that shim trick is great, wish I'd known it back in school. 352371;1382027315;mircea_popescu;gotta go out with more shimmies when you're in school if you want to know shimmy tricks 352372;1382027374;KRS-1;micrea popescu: I was looking through the logs on what you were saying about gpg encryption with regard to time/date can you recall that 352373;1382027400;mircea_popescu;that it's not reliable ? 352374;1382027438;KRS-1;right 352375;1382027447;KRS-1;cant search the logs by text was wondering what day that was 352376;1382027450;mircea_popescu;i said that in a trilema comment most recently. 352377;1382027456;mircea_popescu;lemme see. 352378;1382027530;nubbins`;lel, shimmies 352379;1382027532;nubbins`;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gH2dF_0rNyQ 352380;1382027532;ozbot;Ol' Dirty Bastard Yo MTV Drunken Freestyle - YouTube 352381;1382027558;mircea_popescu;KRS-1 ". The timing implicit in gpg signatures is documentedly unreliable - to the degree the mainainer insists it shouldnt be used." http://trilema.com/2013/snsa-first-product-the-cardano/#comment-95494 352382;1382027559;mircea_popescu;10th. 352383;1382027571;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 132 @ 0.00519995 = 0.6864 BTC [+] {4} 352384;1382027589;KRS-1;awesome..thanks. 352385;1382027608;KRS-1;I needed to read this again and i'm passing it on to a colleague. 352386;1382027835;mircea_popescu;you can trivially verify it yourself, set your system clock to your birthday and see what happens. 352387;1382027876;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 100 @ 0.00699 = 0.699 BTC [-] 352388;1382028068;jcpham;HOORAY I WON 352389;1382028076;jcpham;it's my birthday! 352390;1382028100;jcpham;ty o kind wise computer clock 352391;1382028118;mircea_popescu;lol 352392;1382028852;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 889 @ 0.00118925 = 1.0572 BTC [-] {7} 352393;1382030255;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 109 @ 0.00530329 = 0.5781 BTC [+] {3} 352394;1382030316;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 109 @ 0.00539 = 0.5875 BTC [+] 352395;1382030377;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.00539 = 0.1078 BTC [+] 352396;1382030621;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1319 @ 0.00082133 = 1.0833 BTC [-] 352397;1382030682;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 981 @ 0.0008227 = 0.8071 BTC [+] 352398;1382031719;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.12865 = 0.2573 BTC [-] {2} 352399;1382034690;mircea_popescu;http://www.aljazeera.com/news/americas/2013/10/us-government-partial-shutdown-ends-201310162387774904.html#comment-1085737119 352400;1382034690;ozbot;US Congress votes to end government shutdown - Americas - Al Jazeera English 352401;1382034696;mircea_popescu;emergent bitcoinism among the innocent. 352402;1382034749;ThickAsThieves;silliness 352403;1382034768;ThickAsThieves;a couple times a year we are saved from the brink of total disaster! 352404;1382034783;KRS-1;hey that song Tom Ford is okay I guess..I take back almost everything I said about Jay Z. Almost. 352405;1382034788;ThickAsThieves;lol 352406;1382034795;ThickAsThieves;there are better songs of his than that 352407;1382034804;KRS-1;heard a remix of it the other night that was even better than his 352408;1382034828;ThickAsThieves;heh, that's my main issue with the song, the beat is so-so 352409;1382034837;KRS-1;ya my fav is HIZZO and Girls and the one he did with UGK Big Pimpin (old one) 352410;1382034857;KRS-1;thats bout it,..oh and he killed it with 99 Problemz 352411;1382034891;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1498 @ 0.0008227 = 1.2324 BTC [+] 352412;1382036039;ThickAsThieves;i wonder if there will be a market one day for "clean" coins 352413;1382036048;ThickAsThieves;and thats what makes mining the shizz 352414;1382036092;mircea_popescu;there already was such a market, back when pirate was the rage. 352415;1382036112;mircea_popescu;it's been kept alive since by various doods wishing to pose as miners 352416;1382036144;ThickAsThieves;so in 5 years clean coins will demand a premium price 352417;1382036156;ThickAsThieves;or they do already? 352418;1382036538;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.36000003 = 0.72 BTC [-] 352419;1382036627;asciilifeform;ThickAsThieves: wait till somebody picks up 'shitcoin.' 352420;1382036852;nubbins`;ooh 352421;1382036870;nubbins`;shitfunder, shitpay, etc 352422;1382036906;asciilifeform;nubbins`: shitcoin was a crackpot proposal of mine (http://www.loper-os.org/?p=988). 352423;1382036955;mircea_popescu;;;google kurniawan 352424;1382036956;gribble;Rudy Kurniawan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Why Rudy Kurniawan Was Arrested for Wine Fraud -- New York ...: ; Will Rudy Kurniawan Find a New Lawyer? - Wine Spectator: 352425;1382036957;nubbins`;heh! 352426;1382036969;nubbins`;wine is the new coffee 352427;1382036969;mircea_popescu;i wonder how long for the first fakewine ipo. 352428;1382037143;nubbins`;;;rate mircea_popescu +2 patron of the arts 352429;1382037144;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user mircea_popescu has been recorded. 352430;1382037156;nubbins`;^ you can put that on your CV, you know 352431;1382037175;mircea_popescu;haha cool. 352432;1382037288;KRS-1;0+2 must be...2 352433;1382037297;KRS-1;didnt you have like a -99 rating lol 352434;1382037366;nubbins`;"I've never traded with him, but he has behaved immaturely, and abused WOT ratings by -10 rating me for simply enforcing the #bitcoin-otc rules" 352435;1382037366;nubbins`;lel 352436;1382037481;mircea_popescu;aww teh butthurt. 352437;1382037501;ThickAsThieves;enforcing gets no respect these days 352438;1382037505;mircea_popescu;KRS-1 who ? 352439;1382037514;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1111 @ 0.000169 = 0.1878 BTC [-] 352440;1382037612;nubbins`;i assumed he was talking to you 352441;1382037623;nubbins`;asciilifeform: these shitcoins sound great 352442;1382037650;mircea_popescu;i bitchslap people occasionally, but other than that dunno. 352443;1382038368;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.36000003 = 1.8 BTC [-] 352444;1382038521;nubbins`;should be interesting to see how virtex debit cards work out 352445;1382039161;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00082077 = 2.9548 BTC [-] 352446;1382039721;asciilifeform;http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2013-10-17/nsa-revelations-kill-ibm-hardware-sales-china 352447;1382039723;ozbot;NSA Revelations Kill IBM Hardware Sales in China | Zero Hedge 352448;1382039758;lewicki;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1onrbd/china_banking_regulatory_commission_no_plans_to/ 352449;1382040009;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform the linux part in there is lulzy. lamers just don't get that by their showing up at a cool party they don't become cool 352450;1382040013;mircea_popescu;the party just becomes lame. 352451;1382040049;asciilifeform;these particular lamers have been at the party for a rather long time. 352452;1382040076;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3650 @ 0.00082449 = 3.0094 BTC [+] {2} 352453;1382040080;asciilifeform;standing in the corner, mumbling something, etc 352454;1382040110;mircea_popescu;this is true. kinda why the party is at best so-so for a while now. 352455;1382040138;mircea_popescu;http://www.ubuntu.com/partners/ibm etc 352456;1382040139;ozbot;IBM and Ubuntu | Ubuntu 352457;1382040625;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.36000003 = 2.88 BTC [-] 352458;1382040930;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 900 @ 0.001188 = 1.0692 BTC [-] {3} 352459;1382040991;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 34 @ 0.0054 = 0.1836 BTC [+] 352460;1382041487;dub;heh 352461;1382041496;dub;chinese wont buy american hardware 352462;1382041500;dub;americans wont buy chinese 352463;1382041745;dub;of course pointing out that china's on the downward leg of a pump n dump anyway would detract from the sensationalism 352464;1382042201;mircea_popescu;dub it was on the same downward leg last quarter, too. 352465;1382042455;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 464 @ 0.00121998 = 0.5661 BTC [+] {2} 352466;1382042478;dub;its good too see IBM having negative growth pretty much since I jumped ship though, happy to take credit 352467;1382042536;dub;clearly took a hit on the baller index 352468;1382042699;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 414 @ 0.00117572 = 0.4867 BTC [-] {4} 352469;1382042802;mircea_popescu;lol 352470;1382042818;KRS-1;+1 for Romania..awesome I want one: http://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motoramic/romania-answer-hummer-prepares-end-world-204815032.html 352471;1382043117;mircea_popescu;cool 352472;1382043858;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.62899999 BTC [+] 352473;1382043919;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 26 @ 0.00569499 = 0.1481 BTC [+] 352474;1382044712;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1790 @ 0.00082077 = 1.4692 BTC [-] 352475;1382046054;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00082014 = 4.1007 BTC [-] 352476;1382046847;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 15 @ 0.59066668 = 8.86 BTC [-] {5} 352477;1382047091;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 38 @ 0.00497221 = 0.1889 BTC [-] {5} 352478;1382047396;assbot;[MPEX] [S.NSA] 70000 @ 0.0001 = 7 BTC 352479;1382047505;ThickAsThieves;will S.NSA make a spy ring? 352480;1382047515;ThickAsThieves;decoder ring 352481;1382047569;mircea_popescu;maybe as a cockring 352482;1382048006;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00081858 = 3.6836 BTC [-] {3} 352483;1382049897;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 21 @ 0.00500001 = 0.105 BTC [-] 352484;1382050507;assbot;[MPEX] [S.NSA] 5000 @ 0.0001 = 0.5 BTC 352485;1382050691;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 170 @ 0.001219 = 0.2072 BTC [-] 352486;1382051056;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 600 @ 0.00081719 = 0.4903 BTC [-] 352487;1382051727;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 600 @ 0.00082033 = 0.4922 BTC [+] 352488;1382052703;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.36000003 = 2.88 BTC [-] 352489;1382053313;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3141 @ 0.00017999 = 0.5653 BTC [+] {2} 352490;1382053469;Duffer1;bitcoinflush what an astonishingly appropriate name.. 352491;1382055265;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 102 @ 0.0011712 = 0.1195 BTC [-] 352492;1382056906;BingoBoingo;Duffer1: I imagine there have been few more appropriate names in bitcoindom aside from maybe rapeghost, but even then... 352493;1382057022;benkay;dear mircea can you please give me a bit of background on what you mean by future automatic lifting of the US debt ceiling? 352494;1382057184;BingoBoingo;benkay: I think he probably means automatic in that Obummer has broken the spirit and power of the Congress, but it would probably be better to hear from his mouth. 352495;1382057444;BingoBoingo;I personally feel the US is simply a failed state. America is basically Somalia only there is but one armed gang running the show at the moment. 352496;1382057487;benkay;killer feels bro 352497;1382057517;BingoBoingo;I await the emperor's abandonment of black suits for some Kenneth Cole swag dyed in tyrian purple. 352498;1382057522;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3148 @ 0.00081559 = 2.5675 BTC [-] {3} 352499;1382057712;mike_c;somalia gdp: $6 billion US gdp: $16,000 billion 352500;1382057736;mike_c;"basically" the same 352501;1382057749;dub;somalia military spend : $0 US: $16,000 352502;1382057754;mike_c;hehe 352503;1382057756;dub;b 352504;1382057776;mike_c;no, $8b on military, $8b on debt service 352505;1382057794;mike_c;er, 8,000. whatever. 352506;1382057799;mike_c;horse is DEAD. 352507;1382057816;dub;liked one Completly Believable Infographic I saw about the shutdown 352508;1382057839;dub;somethign like cost of shutdown $24b, cost of free tertiary education $12b 352509;1382057869;dub;of course, like doctering amercians would probably rather die than be educated for free 352510;1382057885;mike_c;? we are educated for free. 352511;1382057888;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.62799999 = 1.884 BTC [+] 352512;1382057897;mike_c;except college. which costs everything you have plus 10. 352513;1382057906;dub;tertiary means college 352514;1382057909;mike_c;oh 352515;1382058017;BingoBoingo;Well, to be fair I seem to have received what seems a novel variant on the classic Nigerian Price scam. We'll see if they respond with photos: http://bitbin.it/fLFxpTl6 352516;1382060634;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 14 @ 0.06245 = 0.8743 BTC [-] 352517;1382060941;dub;http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2013/10/16/the-tea-party-as-a-religion/ 352518;1382060942;ozbot;The Tea Party As A Religion « The Dish 352519;1382060951;dub;good read 352520;1382060981;dub;helps us non'merifags undertand teh insanity 352521;1382061000;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 14 @ 0.0625 = 0.875 BTC [+] 352522;1382061109;dub;tl;dr political conservatism is a religion and like all religions, only stupid people subscribe to it 352523;1382061174;dub;GOP and the muslim brotherhood are exactly the same thing 352524;1382061183;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 10 @ 0.06499999 = 0.65 BTC [+] {2} 352525;1382061239;dub;I may have the chicken before the egg there 352526;1382061252;dub;like all religions, it only survives because there are so many stupid people 352527;1382062998;BingoBoingo;dub: Problem is it is a specific denomination. Like Lutherans, versus Methodists, versus Catholics. None of these groups care about broad goals. They just want their team to win. 352528;1382063159;dub;http://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/10/17/2310210/why-bitcoin-boomed-during-the-government-shutdown?utm_source=slashdot&utm_medium=twitter 352529;1382063159;ozbot;Why Bitcoin Boomed During the Government Shutdown - Slashdot 352530;1382063387;KRS1;http://m.v3.co.uk/v3-uk/opinion/2298633/why-bitcoins-are-the-new-black-in-cybercrime?goback=%2Egde_1707547_member_5796257714824822785#%21 352531;1382063387;assbot;123! 352532;1382063388;ozbot;Why Bitcoins are the new black in cybercrime - V3 mobile 352533;1382063723;BingoBoingo;Bitcoin seems to have really butthurt so called "momentum traders" who tried to short it after the end of the shutdown. 352534;1382063928;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2943 @ 0.00081521 = 2.3992 BTC [-] 352535;1382063928;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 115 @ 0.00529999 = 0.6095 BTC [-] {2} 352536;1382064894;nubbins`;what a night. tenants called to say water was leaking through the downstairs ceiling. $600 and about 300 gallons of water later…. 352537;1382065026;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4650 @ 0.00081381 = 3.7842 BTC [-] 352538;1382065087;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 950 @ 0.00081381 = 0.7731 BTC [-] 352539;1382065177;altoz;;; help 352540;1382065177;gribble;The bot responds when you start a line with the ! character. A good starting point for exploring the bot is the !facts command. You can also visit the bot's website for a list of help topics and documentation: http://gribble.sourceforge.net/ 352541;1382065184;altoz;!facts 352542;1382065298;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: Sounds like a pain. 352543;1382065335;nubbins`;water shutoff valve was fucked so we called some city workers out to shut off the water from the street 352544;1382065360;nubbins`;after about an hour they concluded that the city's shutoff was buried in concrete when an addition was put on the house some years ago 352545;1382065368;altoz;;;bids 0 352546;1382065370;gribble;There are currently 22242162 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 13669553.4891 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0105 seconds 352547;1382065388;altoz;;;asks 999999 352548;1382065389;gribble;There are currently 34086.436 bitcoins offered at or under 999999.0 USD, worth 32694755.1994 USD in total. | Data vintage: 18.4495 seconds 352549;1382065398;nubbins`;first plumber on-call couldn't be bothered to stop watching the hockey game, i guess, because he suggested "just tell the tenants to wait until tomorrow" 352550;1382065427;nubbins`;anyway, 5.5 hours later, all that's left is to patch up some drywall tomorrow 352551;1382065431;nubbins`;exhausting evening tho 352552;1382065636;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 50 @ 0.0069999 = 0.35 BTC [+] 352553;1382066346;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: Sounds like it. Then again depending on where you are hockey might matter more than the constant heartbreak it is here. 352554;1382066378;BingoBoingo;TheSeven: How goes the LabCoin move to CryptoStocks or have you bailed too? 352555;1382066582;nubbins`;ehh, we have an AHL team but i can't be bothered for the most part 352556;1382066612;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 50 @ 0.0069999 = 0.35 BTC [+] {2} 352557;1382067047;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: Honestly I'd rather the local NHL team move to the KHL. More interesting gameplay there. 352558;1382067100;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 29 @ 0.00563499 = 0.1634 BTC [+] 352559;1382067223;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 0.069 = 0.138 BTC [+] 352560;1382067588;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6350 @ 0.00081304 = 5.1628 BTC [-] {2} 352561;1382067588;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 99 @ 0.001217 = 0.1205 BTC [+] 352562;1382067711;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.00563498 = 0.1127 BTC [-] 352563;1382069723;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 4270 @ 0.00257578 = 10.9986 BTC [-] {8} 352564;1382069967;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00081265 = 2.0316 BTC [-] 352565;1382074908;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00081389 = 8.7086 BTC [+] {2} 352566;1382075481;benkay;daww BingoBoingo 352567;1382075497;benkay;that's a pretty weak counter troll 352568;1382075515;benkay;straight for the pooper? what is this, amateur hour? 352569;1382075545;BingoBoingo;benkay: Maybe. I've been working actual troll pretty hard other venues. I've collected quite a few Buttcoins of my own though. 352570;1382075637;BingoBoingo;Here's two: a halfsie http://i.imgur.com/yQ52mP7.jpg and a full one http://i.imgur.com/o08heoV.jpg 352571;1382075680;benkay;a trapman i see 352572;1382075784;benkay;meh 352573;1382075793;benkay;not a terrifically interesting deployment of capital 352574;1382075931;BingoBoingo;benkay: Well, two different people. How was I to know the second was a trap though? 352575;1382076077;benkay;how can one know anything on the internet these days 352576;1382076090;benkay;once upon a time there were channels 352577;1382076104;benkay;nowadays every channel is stuffed with shills 352578;1382076128;benkay;it's far cheaper to promulgate uncertainty and craziness than specific angles 352579;1382076143;benkay;with the end result of impenetrable chaos noise on all lines 352580;1382076786;BingoBoingo;benkay: The solution is to create more noise. 352581;1382076823;benkay;nonsense 352582;1382076839;benkay;there's only marginal profit to be made in just increasing entropy 352583;1382076871;BingoBoingo;benkay: There could also be increased security though. 352584;1382076893;benkay;"could" 352585;1382076911;benkay;it could also be possible to emulate quantum circuits on VN architecture chips 352586;1382076943;benkay;also 352587;1382076945;benkay;"security" 352588;1382077044;BingoBoingo;benkay: Maybe? Nature generally seems to push for increases in entropy though. The poor get poorer somehow. With enough buttcoins eventually you get enough asses that they can't all be traps. 352589;1382077287;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.605 BTC [-] 352590;1382077303;benkay;well, yes, Nature does certainly prefer some arrangements to others. those highly ordered arrangements are very useful to people, though. 352591;1382077339;BingoBoingo;benkay: In a lot of ways though people and nature are adversaries. 352592;1382077353;benkay;and while one can extract a certain amount of value from turning a pile of well-ordered things into a pile of less-well ordered things, the art of business construction is largely that of building machines that work against the entropic gradient. 352593;1382077382;benkay;i am not making this point clearly at all 352594;1382077386;benkay;more chardonnay is called for 352595;1382077409;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.595 = 1.19 BTC [-] {2} 352596;1382077454;benkay;i think that what i'm trying to say is that i enjoy and profit from building machines that take in energy and do work upon the environment, disadvantaging some market players and advantaging others. 352597;1382077476;benkay;and just computing hashes strikes me as a poor use of natural gas 352598;1382077531;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00081414 = 1.8725 BTC [+] 352599;1382077531;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5763 BTC [-] 352600;1382077592;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.57566666 = 6.908 BTC [-] {4} 352601;1382077593;benkay;this comes back to leverage 352602;1382077608;benkay;you can never get more energy out of oil than is in there to begin with 352603;1382077623;benkay;but carefuly rearrangement of atoms can lead to some pretty spectacular machines 352604;1382077682;benkay;with enough practice and demonstrated competence in rearranging, one doesn't even need to gamble on whether a given whore is a trap or not. 352605;1382077693;benkay;if in desire of traps, acquire and enjoy. 352606;1382077695;benkay;if not, don't. 352607;1382077775;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.57000499 = 11.4001 BTC [-] {14} 352608;1382077897;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00081414 = 1.7911 BTC [+] 352609;1382077997;benkay;wow and also 352610;1382078048;benkay;" A good chunk of the recent hashpower is split roughly evenly between the Chinese and the US " 352611;1382078080;benkay;at this point i'm inclined to take it on faith but otoh what's the basis? 352612;1382078106;BingoBoingo;benkay: Some times a troll is just a troll. Sometimes it is planned. Other times it is serendipitous. Being a 'Murican whose education lacked training in taste, balls in unexpected contexts give me a chuckle... 352613;1382078141;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4924 @ 0.00081416 = 4.0089 BTC [+] {2} 352614;1382078159;pankkake;not even mentionning Europe 352615;1382078202;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9129 @ 0.00081435 = 7.4342 BTC [+] {2} 352616;1382078273;BingoBoingo;pankkake: I figure Europe has had this long figured out. Like the Spartans did with the Sodomy until you are 30 business. 352617;1382078297;pankkake;it was about "split roughly evenly between the Chinese and the US" ;) 352618;1382078433;BingoBoingo;pankkake: Oh. I just figured Europe was too busy not being shut down to get ASICs. 352619;1382078441;pankkake;lol 352620;1382078900;BingoBoingo;And China doesn't have much of a barrier to get into mining, because they have plenty of companies producing ASICs to seize. 352621;1382078972;benkay;not to mention the power to burn behind fpgas 352622;1382079178;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 93 @ 0.00561961 = 0.5226 BTC [+] {4} 352623;1382079229;pankkake;oh that was mentionning governments? 352624;1382079232;pankkake;well… lel 352625;1382080032;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.3611014 = 1.8055 BTC [+] 352626;1382080154;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 11 @ 0.367 = 4.037 BTC [+] 352627;1382080398;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 0.06899999 = 0.138 BTC [-] {2} 352628;1382082045;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 34 @ 0.0052 = 0.1768 BTC [-] 352629;1382082106;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 84 @ 0.005101 = 0.4285 BTC [-] 352630;1382082883;pankkake;http://www.dailydot.com/crime/black-market-reloaded-shut-down-backopy-silk-road/ 352631;1382082883;ozbot;The Daily Dot - Deep Web's biggest illegal gun market shuts down 352632;1382083448;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3305 @ 0.0008136 = 2.6889 BTC [-] 352633;1382084851;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6450 @ 0.00081694 = 5.2693 BTC [+] {2} 352634;1382085801;mircea_popescu;dub oh gtfo. "sanity is a religion" bs, basically the internet has devolved to a sort of cracked-clone 352635;1382085880;mircea_popescu;"i'm an underpaid 'creative' with no ideas required to churn out oodles of 'work', here's my recipe : take random things to make random claims about. can be used to create an infinity of articles that are mildly entertaining for the midly stupid relatively illiterate net dorks." 352636;1382086087;mircea_popescu;;;later tell bingoboingo lmao @ your art collection. 352637;1382086087;gribble;The operation succeeded. 352638;1382086244;mircea_popescu;;;later tell benkay computing hashes is a much better "use" of natural gas than mouthbreathers are a "use" of oxygen. luckily nature is more akin a whore than a bar of soap : it doesn't wear out. 352639;1382086244;gribble;The operation succeeded. 352640;1382086320;mircea_popescu;pankkake yurpean govts have better shit to do than keep up with technology. 352641;1382086498;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 119 @ 0.00249999 = 0.2975 BTC [-] 352642;1382086559;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 201 @ 0.00249999 = 0.5025 BTC [-] {2} 352643;1382086581;gecko_x2;http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/10/17/bitcoin_exchange_ddos_flood/ 352644;1382086620;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 126 @ 0.00249999 = 0.315 BTC [-] 352645;1382086681;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 120 @ 0.0025 = 0.3 BTC [+] 352646;1382086710;mircea_popescu;lol @all teh crapola dns masquerading firms trying to sell their product. 352647;1382086721;mircea_popescu;if incapsula/cloudflare/etc were any good mpex'd use them. 352648;1382086956;gecko_x2;http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2013/10/17/does-this-17-million-bitcoin-wallet-belong-to-alleged-silk-road-mastermind-ross-ulbricht/ 352649;1382086956;ozbot;Does This $17 Million Bitcoin Wallet Belong To Alleged Silk Road Creator Ross Ulbricht? - Forbes 352650;1382087047;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9640 @ 0.0008136 = 7.8431 BTC [-] 352651;1382088023;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6353 @ 0.00081932 = 5.2051 BTC [+] {2} 352652;1382090930;mircea_popescu;dub here, because i like you so : http://trilema.com/2013/the-disadvantage-of-teaching-people-the-alphabet-and-nothing-more-is-that-you-have-to-somehow-put-up-with-a-bunch-of-retards-that-can-now-express-themselves-in-writing/ 352653;1382091134;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 95 @ 0.00119 = 0.1131 BTC [-] 352654;1382091514;dub;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Krz-dyD-UQ 352655;1382091663;mircea_popescu;lol 352656;1382091951;ThickAsThieves;http://letstalkbitcoin.com/the-regulation-of-bitcoin/#.UmEMifmsigI 352657;1382091952;ozbot;The Regulation of Bitcoin | Lets Talk Bitcoin 352658;1382091960;ThickAsThieves;by Amir Taaki 352659;1382091979;ThickAsThieves;“Respect for authority figures is a sign of maturity.” 352660;1382091980;ThickAsThieves;“Men with good jobs dress smart and respectably.” 352661;1382091980;ThickAsThieves;“Work hard for a good job and a good life. Retire young.” 352662;1382091980;ThickAsThieves;“Don’t talk to strangers.” 352663;1382091980;ThickAsThieves;“Life is about money. Money makes the world go round.” 352664;1382091980;ThickAsThieves;I was told all of these sentences in my life. That learning to accept authority is an inevitable part of growing up. That my character is defined by how I look, not how I act. That my single purpose is to be a work-slave. To avoid interaction with random unknowns outside my circle. And that responsibility starts and stops with myself. 352665;1382091980;ThickAsThieves;All of them are bad values. 352666;1382092052;mircea_popescu;yeah uh totally i mean like bad and hang on 352667;1382092053;mircea_popescu;i got a call. 352668;1382092537;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MG] 2666 @ 0.00018 = 0.4799 BTC [-] 352669;1382093147;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3935 @ 0.00081764 = 3.2174 BTC [-] 352670;1382094184;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2749 @ 0.00081473 = 2.2397 BTC [-] {2} 352671;1382094306;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 400 @ 0.0025 = 1 BTC [+] 352672;1382094733;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MG] 20000 @ 0.000165 = 3.3 BTC [-] 352673;1382094855;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SMG] 10000 @ 0.00015094 = 1.5094 BTC [-] {5} 352674;1382094977;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1250 @ 0.00081353 = 1.0169 BTC [-] 352675;1382096014;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.00515 = 0.1545 BTC [-] {2} 352676;1382096458;pankkake;it would be cool to have by-address stats on bitbet, for example to be able to see how much was won compared to how much was wagered 352677;1382096563;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3397 @ 0.00081472 = 2.7676 BTC [+] {2} 352678;1382097356;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 101 @ 0.0025 = 0.2525 BTC [+] 352679;1382097600;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69348300 BTC to 1`386`966 shares, 50 satoshi per share 352680;1382098271;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00082025 = 5.0856 BTC [+] 352681;1382099064;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 100 @ 0.0069999 = 0.7 BTC [+] 352682;1382099142;skinnkavaj;pankkake 352683;1382099148;skinnkavaj;about 766.com exchange 352684;1382099150;skinnkavaj;What is the price to own 1% of the exchange? I am too hungover to calculate myself. 352685;1382099150;skinnkavaj;If the price for the whole exchange is 500-2000 BTC I would buy. If higher, too big risk and too easy to fail. 352686;1382099150;skinnkavaj;Look at Digitalcoins CryptoAve share auction, I bought 1% for 5BTC and the exchange is then valued 500BTC, a much undervalued price. 352687;1382099158;skinnkavaj;http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinStocks/comments/1ooemf/has_anyone_invested_in_796com/ 352688;1382099158;assbot;123! 352689;1382100137;b0n1;just-dice.com down? 352690;1382100406;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4550 @ 0.00082025 = 3.7321 BTC [+] 352691;1382101321;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1231 @ 0.00081779 = 1.0067 BTC [-] 352692;1382102038;TomServo;!jd 352693;1382102039;assbot;Just-Dice stat: 4947 BTC profit, 61.7k BTC invested, 186.74 mio bets, 4.19 mio BTC wagered 352694;1382102175;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3820 @ 0.00082025 = 3.1334 BTC [+] 352695;1382102419;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.367 = 0.734 BTC [+] 352696;1382103151;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 972 @ 0.00081779 = 0.7949 BTC [-] 352697;1382103212;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6328 @ 0.00081404 = 5.1512 BTC [-] {3} 352698;1382104798;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5950 @ 0.00082025 = 4.8805 BTC [+] 352699;1382104798;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 0.069 = 0.138 BTC [+] 352700;1382104799;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [LABCO] [PAID] 0.04958868 BTC to 40`316 shares, 123 satoshi per share 352701;1382105103;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.144 BTC [+] 352702;1382105774;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 49 @ 0.00517 = 0.2533 BTC [-] 352703;1382106079;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.59 BTC [+] 352704;1382107129;Bunnyh;https://just-dice.com/roll/184417807 this is an interesting bet on JD 352705;1382107132;Bunnyh;is that 1% house edge? 352706;1382107909;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1200 @ 0.00081947 = 0.9834 BTC [-] 352707;1382108678;KRS-1;wow i'd throw $10K on that too 352708;1382109008;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 48 @ 0.00516509 = 0.2479 BTC [-] 352709;1382109129;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 31 @ 0.00516002 = 0.16 BTC [-] 352710;1382109312;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.57149 = 1.143 BTC [-] {2} 352711;1382109373;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.00515375 = 0.1031 BTC [-] {3} 352712;1382109617;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 168 @ 0.0025 = 0.42 BTC [+] 352713;1382109800;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00081824 = 5.564 BTC [-] {2} 352714;1382110910;benkay;a whole ten shitbucks ;) 352715;1382111264;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.00081528 = 5.7885 BTC [-] 352716;1382111667;mike_c;yeah it's 1%. odds of winning = (1 - .010099). payout is paying as if odds were ( 1 / 1.00010102). 352717;1382111691;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.00120001 = 0.12 BTC [-] 352718;1382111699;mike_c;;;calc (1 - 0.010099) - ( 1 / 1.00010102) 352719;1382111699;gribble;-0.00999799020401 352720;1382111714;mike_c;1% all day 352721;1382111752;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.00120001 = 0.12 BTC [-] 352722;1382111935;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1523 @ 0.00118303 = 1.8018 BTC [-] {7} 352723;1382112606;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00081636 = 2.7756 BTC [+] 352724;1382112926;jurov;;;bc,conver eur 352725;1382112926;gribble;Error: "bc,conver" is not a valid command. 352726;1382112928;jurov;;;bc,convert eur 352727;1382112928;gribble;1 BTC = 163.80100 U.S. dollars = 119.632632 Euros 352728;1382113033;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 75 @ 0.00515 = 0.3863 BTC [-] 352729;1382113216;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6195 BTC [+] 352730;1382113582;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3729 @ 0.00082041 = 3.0593 BTC [+] {2} 352731;1382113643;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8471 @ 0.00082151 = 6.959 BTC [+] {4} 352732;1382115534;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4218 @ 0.00082469 = 3.4785 BTC [+] 352733;1382117486;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 582 @ 0.0008249 = 0.4801 BTC [+] 352734;1382118231;kakobrekla;https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/10/d-link_router_b.html 352735;1382118232;ozbot;Schneier on Security: D-Link Router Backdoor 352736;1382118335;kakobrekla;speaking of contact poison. 352737;1382118613;pankkake;related: http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=4441 352738;1382118778;kakobrekla;nice 352739;1382118792;pankkake;http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2013/10/you-dont-need-millions-of-dollars.html 352740;1382118793;ozbot;Coding Horror: You Don't Need Millions of Dollars 352741;1382118919;daybyter;but some millions can't hurt anyway... 352742;1382118950;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 372 @ 0.00516509 = 1.9214 BTC [+] 352743;1382118954;pankkake;actually overfunded projects have a tendency to turn into shit 352744;1382119053;pankkake;http://www.geekosystem.com/kickstarter-board-game-failure/ 352745;1382119072;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.367 BTC [+] 352746;1382119170;daybyter;Is there a statistic, how many underfunded projects fail? 352747;1382119277;pankkake;there are many great movies that were on a very tight budget, or examples of sequels with way bigger budgets that were crap 352748;1382119332;kakobrekla;but sequels suck irrelevant of budget usually 352749;1382119349;jurov;well, several years of 80-hours work week *are* worth millions 352750;1382119403;kakobrekla;depends, sweeping the floor? not rly 352751;1382119495;jurov;ofc, i'm relating to this:"His devotion to the machine borders on fanatical; he regularly worked 80 hour weeks and he'd take "vacations" where it was just him and a computer alone in a hotel room for a whole week – just for fun, to relax." 352752;1382119987;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00081848 = 4.0924 BTC [-] 352753;1382120227;ThickAsThieves;hey jurov 352754;1382120230;ThickAsThieves;pm plz 352755;1382120658;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 80 @ 0.00699989 = 0.56 BTC [-] {2} 352756;1382120659;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.144 BTC [+] 352757;1382120660;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.367 BTC [+] 352758;1382120719;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.144 BTC [+] 352759;1382120902;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 170 @ 0.0006 = 0.102 BTC [-] 352760;1382120963;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 0.069 = 0.276 BTC [+] {2} 352761;1382121024;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61 BTC [-] 352762;1382121861;dexX7;ThickAsThieves: are you in trouble? 352763;1382121878;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 317 @ 0.00057781 = 0.1832 BTC [-] {4} 352764;1382122468;jurov;dexX7: no, normal stuff 352765;1382122496;dexX7;thanks! :) 352766;1382122549;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1990 @ 0.00081962 = 1.631 BTC [+] {2} 352767;1382122732;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00081832 = 1.964 BTC [-] 352768;1382123333;KRS-1;looks like baidu jumped on bitcoin 352769;1382123403;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 500 @ 0.0005777 = 0.2889 BTC [-] 352770;1382123586;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 205 @ 0.00057031 = 0.1169 BTC [-] {4} 352771;1382123830;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4650 @ 0.00081832 = 3.8052 BTC [-] 352772;1382124257;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4396 @ 0.00082109 = 3.6095 BTC [+] {2} 352773;1382124623;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 300 @ 0.0005005 = 0.1502 BTC [-] 352774;1382126514;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3582 @ 0.00082142 = 2.9423 BTC [+] 352775;1382127734;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14043 @ 0.00082527 = 11.5893 BTC [+] {2} 352776;1382128012;mike_c;;;nethash 352777;1382128012;gribble;2421134.87775 352778;1382128030;mike_c;you'd think with all that power my tx would be confirmed by now. 352779;1382128100;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 6203 @ 0.00017994 = 1.1162 BTC [-] {2} 352780;1382128272;Namworld;Hashing power doesn't speed up confirms. 352781;1382128280;Namworld;So... no 352782;1382128284;mike_c;well, for a couple weeks it does 352783;1382128295;Namworld;Less than 2 weeks usually. 352784;1382128335;pankkake;;;bc,stats 352785;1382128337;gribble;Current Blocks: 264500 | Current Difficulty: 2.677312494824211E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 266111 | Next Difficulty In: 1611 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 21 hours, 36 minutes, and 47 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 322895975.073 | Estimated Percent Change: 20.60452 352786;1382128343;pankkake;20% already! 352787;1382128344;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4650 @ 0.00083149 = 3.8664 BTC [+] 352788;1382128550;dexX7;gox has a new 6 month high! 352789;1382128619;Namworld;SELL SELL SELL 352790;1382128630;Namworld;6 month high... 352791;1382128644;Namworld;... nah 352792;1382128699;dexX7;end of april was 166.43 352793;1382129381;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7799 @ 0.000839 = 6.5434 BTC [+] 352794;1382129686;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 166 @ 0.000839 = 0.1393 BTC [+] 352795;1382130235;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1110 @ 0.00017994 = 0.1997 BTC [-] 352796;1382131455;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 35 @ 0.0053 = 0.1855 BTC [-] 352797;1382131577;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 215 @ 0.00121669 = 0.2616 BTC [-] {2} 352798;1382131578;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.628 BTC [+] 352799;1382131579;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.0025 = 0.25 BTC [+] 352800;1382132248;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00089085 = 0.8909 BTC [+] 352801;1382132508;mike_c;mircea_popescu: you around? got a question about option assignment. 352802;1382132797;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 725 @ 0.0009 = 0.6525 BTC [+] 352803;1382133712;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 35 @ 0.0054 = 0.189 BTC [+] 352804;1382134450;jurov;mike_c just ask, there are more people with mpoe experience 352805;1382135072;jurov;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1oqdoo/vault_of_satoshi_new_north_american_exchange_is/ 352806;1382135072;ozbot;Vault of Satoshi: New `North` American Exchange is finally open Gold... Everywhere! : Bitcoin 352807;1382135084;jurov;"We've ditched the "Toronto Exchange" and totally went Global" 352808;1382135088;jurov;totally 352809;1382135163;jurov;first exchange with golden showers 352810;1382135188;jurov;inb4 mircea_popescu: mpex was first 352811;1382135359;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00089085 = 1.3363 BTC [-] 352812;1382135372;mike_c;jurov: ok. it says on the faq that options will be assigned proportionally based on how many contracts you have created. 352813;1382135386;mike_c;not how many you've created & sold. 352814;1382135399;mike_c;that feels.. open to manipulation. 352815;1382135416;jurov;*exercises* will be assigned 352816;1382135418;MTBmanTT;very :\ 352817;1382135426;mike_c;right 352818;1382135438;mike_c;so, jurov creates 10 contracts 352819;1382135451;mike_c;for ITM calls. 352820;1382135462;mike_c;then mike_c creates 10 contracts and immediately excercises. 352821;1382135474;mike_c;5 assigned to you and 5 to me? free money? 352822;1382135485;jurov;no 352823;1382135504;mike_c;well i would hope not, but i'm not seeing it 352824;1382135504;blastbob;vault of satoshi.. verified and secured by godaddy.. 352825;1382135518;jurov;after you mkopt or split, you'll see in STAT an entry that you provided a collateral 352826;1382135519;blastbob;not touching that site 352827;1382135562;jurov;the record stays the same regardless what you do with the options 352828;1382135599;jurov;in the end of month, all exercises are put together and subtracted from all provided collateral 352829;1382135633;jurov;and rest returned.. and *this* is what get assigned to you 352830;1382135668;mike_c;right, that seems to be the problem. sorry if i'm being slow here. i'll provide better example: 352831;1382135690;jurov;so I pay for 10 exercises , you pay for 10 exercises and we both will get remaining part of our collaterals 352832;1382135702;jurov;no matter what trades happened between 352833;1382135783;mike_c;wait. these are american options, right? excercise any time? 352834;1382135809;jurov;yes, but books are made only in the end of month 352835;1382135847;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 75 @ 0.00699989 = 0.525 BTC [-] {2} 352836;1382135853;mike_c;ok.. let me pastebin an example here and hopefully you can tell me why i'm not getting free money. 352837;1382135863;mike_c;and thanks for the assistance. 352838;1382135881;jurov;well, it's kinda my business :) 352839;1382136041;jurov; then mike_c creates 10 contracts and immediately excercises <<< you forget here that you have to put *more* than this into escrow 352840;1382136064;jurov;and in the month you will get assigned your part of *all* exercises, so no free money 352841;1382136094;jurov;*in the end of thwe month 352842;1382136335;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.625 BTC [-] 352843;1382136394;mike_c;ok.. so you are saying that excercising is no different from creating and immediately selling for just intrinsic value. 352844;1382136472;jurov;as opposed to what? 352845;1382136500;mike_c;creating 10 contracts + excercise = create 10 contracts and immediately sell to market bot which buys for intrinsic value only 352846;1382136531;mike_c;say yes and i think i'll understand. 352847;1382136545;jurov;yes it is the same, if anyone bought for this value. market bot usually buys for considerably less. 352848;1382136591;mike_c;ok. bit different than what i'm used to. so when you make the option, you are on the hook for the rest of the month, and there is no way to get out of that obligation 352849;1382136601;mike_c;i.e.: no way to get out of the trade 352850;1382136622;jurov;true 352851;1382136628;mike_c;got it. thanks again. 352852;1382136638;mike_c;even if it is your job :) 352853;1382136751;jurov;:) 352854;1382136761;mike_c;excellent, agreed. except you can't mkopt :) 352855;1382136838;jurov;i can, you just have to ask here or by email 352856;1382136908;jurov;after creation you can trade/exercise them online without problem 352857;1382136928;mike_c;yeah, but you are supposed to be the user-friendly mpex 352858;1382136935;mike_c;shouldn't i be able to do that on the site? 352859;1382136956;mike_c;er, to be clear, you ARE the user-friendly mpex. 352860;1382136963;mike_c;but not for MKOPT 352861;1382137048;jurov;yes, you should be able. but mpex interface scares me and there wasn't much demand, so it's not ready yet 352862;1382137054;mike_c;hehe 352863;1382137087;mike_c;i think that demand will follow user-friendly tools. 352864;1382137211;kakobrekla;once you solve a problem, a demand to find a solution to that problem can only go down 352865;1382137297;mike_c;i would say that the demand is already exhibited in volume at the other exchanges that are easier to use 352866;1382137311;mike_c;and that demand could be redirected to mpex (through coinbr) 352867;1382137323;kakobrekla;which exchanges is that exactly? 352868;1382137362;mike_c;havelock, bitfunder. but this is the part where you say they don't have any volume? 352869;1382137489;mod6;whats scary about the interface? 352870;1382137502;kakobrekla;i think its the lack of css 352871;1382137530;mike_c;hey, you obviously agree. bitbet doesn't look like mpex for a reason. 352872;1382137544;mike_c;b/c it's aimed at "consumers" 352873;1382137548;jurov;mod6 i mean the interface from programmer's view 352874;1382137552;kakobrekla;sarcasm doesnt translate well over irc 352875;1382137611;kakobrekla;mike_c not that far apart either :) 352876;1382137712;Apocalyptic; sarcasm doesnt translate well over irc // oh it des 352877;1382137714;Apocalyptic;*does 352878;1382137720;mike_c;i don't agree with you.. demand does not have to exist before the product. 352879;1382137726;mike_c;the product can create demand. 352880;1382137755;mike_c;or, rather, let's say that the demand is for gambling products for BTC. 352881;1382137762;mike_c;and an easy-to-use option market fits the bill. 352882;1382137767;mod6;ah. i felt like it was pretty easy to interface with programatically 352883;1382137795;jurov;mod6 let me walk through how easy it is 352884;1382137804;jurov;1. mpex happily accepts your order 352885;1382137814;mike_c;and done :) 352886;1382137814;jurov;2. you call statjson, but no change 352887;1382137834;jurov;3. next statjson, only balances change 352888;1382137851;jurov;4. either your order appears or trades or both 352889;1382137874;jurov;and some trades have tracking info of your order and some not 352890;1382137884;mike_c;no no, discrepencies are resolved in sub-second time! 352891;1382137884;jurov;so they have to me matched by time/price 352892;1382137934;jurov;all this happens in seconds (and when mpex had a problem, even minutes) span 352893;1382137943;mod6;oh, hmm. 352894;1382137959;jurov;so it's very easy for multiple orders to be mixed 352895;1382137964;mod6;i've never had that issue, but i'm not managing like 6900 peoples orders either. 352896;1382137977;jurov;you see 352897;1382138004;mod6;actually, i think we've discussed this before. i've just forgotten. 352898;1382138053;kakobrekla;do you do lot of manual fixing? 352899;1382138086;jurov;not since tracking was introduced 352900;1382138100;kakobrekla;cool 352901;1382138104;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 2120 @ 0.00045462 = 0.9638 BTC [-] {5} 352902;1382138128;mike_c;while we're on the topic.. shouldn't assbot report on excercises? 352903;1382138138;mike_c;seems like useful information for the public at large. 352904;1382138165;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.62899998 BTC [+] 352905;1382138200;kakobrekla;im almost positivley sureish it does unless sub 0.1 btc vol or something 352906;1382138258;jurov;orly? since when? 352907;1382138264;mike_c;google doesn't seem to think so 352908;1382138267;mod6;i don't think it does report exercises, although it could be hard to tell... does the CBOE or others report that information? or does it just effect open interest? 352909;1382138267;mike_c;https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Alog.bitcoin-assets.com+excercise 352910;1382138269;kakobrekla;since when what 352911;1382138285;mike_c;well, that would be the only way to infer open interest 352912;1382138294;jurov;since when assbot reports exercises 352913;1382138309;jurov;afaik it did for BTC-TC only 352914;1382138314;jurov;not mpex 352915;1382138315;kakobrekla;ah right 352916;1382138319;kakobrekla;you talking btc options 352917;1382138324;mod6;i've personally never seen it report any exercises. 352918;1382138345;jurov;mod6 it reported them as trades with strange prices 352919;1382138348;kakobrekla;well talk to mp to post it 352920;1382138365;mike_c;post it.. in the recent trades? 352921;1382138371;mike_c;like, the rss feed? 352922;1382138388;kakobrekla;post it to me and ill chan it to assbot 352923;1382138401;mod6;i suppose it could be that assbot doesn't report sub .1 btc though. so that could be part of it. 352924;1382138416;kakobrekla;mod6 #bitcoin-assets-trades does not have such filter 352925;1382138506;mod6;ahh. im in there, but don't watch it nearly as close as I used to. 352926;1382138531;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00546558 = 0.5466 BTC [+] {4} 352927;1382138563;mike_c;ok, here's where i contribute instead of nag: jurov, i believe the mpex market bot does price its orders very close to intrinsic value. 352928;1382138574;mike_c;http://mpex.co/?mpsic=O.USD.C140T 352929;1382138575;ozbot;O.USD.C140T last 200@0.14768654 352930;1382138585;mike_c;;;calc 1- (140/153.7) 352931;1382138585;gribble;0.089134677944 352932;1382138603;mike_c;buy price is almost exactly intrinsic value of the call 352933;1382138612;Apocalyptic;mike_c, so no premium ? 352934;1382138619;mike_c;i believe so 352935;1382138627;Apocalyptic;weird way to price options 352936;1382138689;Apocalyptic;unless you're close to expiration 352937;1382138712;mike_c;well, not if you're a buyer and don't want to lose money :) 352938;1382138918;jurov;hmmm... this means mpoe thinks it will be better off when they autoexercise 352939;1382138931;jurov;interesting 352940;1382138937;mike_c;keeps the algorithm simple for what to do with them after buying. 352941;1382139335;jurov;afaik bot does nothing special with bought options... it just calculates its exposure, prices and if it looks okay, puts orders online 352942;1382139449;mike_c;are you sure about that? because it seems like it would be easy for it to just have orders up at intrinsic value and just immediately excercise after buying them. 352943;1382139538;jurov;since the bot is part of exchange i don't see who would profit from that 352944;1382139589;mike_c;nobody profits from it anyway.. 352945;1382139603;mike_c;if i am holding an option, it does me no good to sell it to the bot at intrinsic value 352946;1382139614;mike_c;i might as well just excercise 352947;1382139650;jurov;perhaps it's just there so that you can check what the value is 352948;1382139864;jurov;goodnight all 352949;1382140178;assbot;[MPEX] [O] [O.USD.C125T] 8 @ 0.24 = 1.92 BTC [-] 352950;1382140178;assbot;[MPEX] [O] [O.USD.C146T] 10 @ 0.13 = 1.3 BTC [-] 352951;1382140971;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.00544499 = 0.1089 BTC [-] 352952;1382141532;bloctoc;was that an mpex option I just saw? 352953;1382141536;mike_c;yup 352954;1382141541;mike_c;the market is heating up 352955;1382142679;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5246 @ 0.00088523 = 4.6439 BTC [-] 352956;1382142740;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 24 @ 0.00544499 = 0.1307 BTC [-] 352957;1382143350;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5950 @ 0.00088641 = 5.2741 BTC [+] {2} 352958;1382143533;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 204 @ 0.00550175 = 1.1224 BTC [+] {4} 352959;1382143716;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 500 @ 0.0056437 = 2.8219 BTC [+] {5} 352960;1382143960;assbot;[MPEX] [O] [O.USD.P146T] 8 @ 0.01731119 = 0.1385 BTC [-] 352961;1382144082;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.635 BTC [+] 352962;1382144387;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.63714285 = 4.46 BTC [+] {2} 352963;1382144982;jborkl;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=304250.240 352964;1382144997;jborkl;Now that is ghetto rigging that guy has 352965;1382145329;mike_c;i can't decide if that is awesome or horrible. 352966;1382145363;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5618 @ 0.000887 = 4.9832 BTC [+] {2} 352967;1382145501;jborkl;A little of both 352968;1382145790;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00088722 = 7.985 BTC [+] 352969;1382146156;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.36000003 = 0.72 BTC [-] 352970;1382146157;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3181 @ 0.00088722 = 2.8222 BTC [+] 352971;1382146278;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 53 @ 0.00565 = 0.2995 BTC [+] 352972;1382146364;_Neil;;;nethash 352973;1382146364;gribble;2505998.85313 352974;1382146376;_Neil;http://bitbet.us/bet/530/btc-network-hashrate-will-exceed-2500-th-s-before/ 352975;1382146377;_Neil;Done 352976;1382146379;ozbot;BitBet - BTC network hashrate will exceed 2500 TH/s before February 352977;1382146489;mircea_popescu;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btvSE6tVHzQ 352978;1382146489;ozbot;John Wayne on liberals - YouTube 352979;1382146504;mircea_popescu;mike_c shoot. 352980;1382147027;mircea_popescu;lol @john romero reference. 352981;1382147035;mircea_popescu;didn't the guy bury ~20mn or so, in 1990 dollars ? 352982;1382147112;Namworld;Whatever. US' left, US' right, they're both making the same thing, more or less. One party country as far as I'm concerned. 352983;1382147141;Namworld;There's not much difference between democrats and republicans. 352984;1382147192;mircea_popescu; i.e.: no way to get out of the trade << you can get out of it synthetically. buy the option. 352985;1382147280;mircea_popescu;wait, there's options volume on teh golden showers now ? 352986;1382147284;mircea_popescu;how long have i been away ? 352987;1382147360;Namworld;Too long apparently 352988;1382147422;mircea_popescu;lol 352989;1382147438;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 17 @ 0.36000003 = 6.12 BTC [-] 352990;1382147478;mircea_popescu;"UPDATE: 7:30PM (EST) -- We broke 100 up votes... the shower continues!! I am getting CARPAL TUNNEL... THANKS!!" 352991;1382147491;mircea_popescu;i hope someone somewhere is keeping track of all the reddirdation. 352992;1382147498;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.36000003 BTC [-] 352993;1382147564;jborkl_;Who gets a golden shower? 352994;1382147935;mike_c;mircea_popescu: not sure if you saw. what do you think about posting option excercises to kako for assbot 352995;1382147937;mircea_popescu;the investors, generally. 352996;1382147990;mircea_popescu;mike_c it's not customary to announce exercises. 352997;1382148021;mircea_popescu;jurov http://nosuchlabs.com << check it out, your factorisartion dream comes true. 352998;1382148230;seaotter;mmm 352999;1382148291;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 56 @ 0.00544543 = 0.3049 BTC [-] {2} 353000;1382148315;seaotter;mircea_popescu: is that new or old, that url? 353001;1382148329;seaotter;Keys Processed: 353002;1382148329;seaotter;5 353003;1382148357;asciilifeform;seaotter: ~5 min. old. 353004;1382148397;mike_c;you know, it is ok to have a and . we don't need to save 50 bytes over the wire anymore. 353005;1382148406;seaotter;asciilifeform: source? 353006;1382148429;asciilifeform;seaotter: source of what 353007;1382148434;seaotter;or that url 353008;1382148448;asciilifeform;seaotter: it's plain euclid, you can write the damn thing yourself 353009;1382148488;asciilifeform;gcd(Mn, prod(M(0)...M(n-1)) 353010;1382148613;seaotter;sry, i have high levle of etanol in bl00d 353011;1382148623;seaotter;at least 353012;1382148629;asciilifeform;seaotter: sobriety not require here. 353013;1382148630;seaotter;someone definitely plays on futureblock game 353014;1382148639;seaotter;with hashrate 353015;1382148667;seaotter;what is best source for hash rate value? 353016;1382148672;seaotter;some live charts? 353017;1382148718;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 22 @ 0.67957272 = 14.9506 BTC [+] {3} 353018;1382148779;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00088974 = 5.6054 BTC [+] 353019;1382148779;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 17 @ 0.71417646 = 12.141 BTC [+] {4} 353020;1382149145;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2570 @ 0.002195 = 5.6412 BTC [-] {4} 353021;1382149149;mircea_popescu;seaotter try bitcoin.sipa.be 353022;1382149206;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2500 @ 0.00210928 = 5.2732 BTC [-] {11} 353023;1382149212;seaotter;zoom is missing :/ 353024;1382149267;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 69 @ 0.00565 = 0.3899 BTC [+] 353025;1382149328;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 711 @ 0.00576789 = 4.101 BTC [+] {7} 353026;1382149329;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7217 @ 0.00088836 = 6.4113 BTC [-] 353027;1382149437;mike_c;zoom is the scrollbar :) 353028;1382149450;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2500 @ 0.00199963 = 4.9991 BTC [-] {3} 353029;1382149572;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 358 @ 0.00612579 = 2.193 BTC [+] {7} 353030;1382149999;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.36000003 BTC [-] 353031;1382150365;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 161 @ 0.00642968 = 1.0352 BTC [+] {2} 353032;1382150487;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 361 @ 0.00644107 = 2.3252 BTC [+] {3} 353033;1382151036;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 11 @ 0.36000003 = 3.96 BTC [-] 353034;1382151376;Namworld;lol 796 exchange is contacting me to add my stocks to their platform. 353035;1382151376;assbot;123! 353036;1382151389;Namworld;796 353037;1382151389;assbot;123! 353038;1382151394;Namworld;146 353039;1382151409;Namworld;ok, assbot reacts to 796 apparently 353040;1382151409;assbot;123! 353041;1382151516;Namworld;Or simple as 353042;1382151516;Namworld;Do re mi 353043;1382151516;Namworld;ABC, one, two, three, baby, you and me girl! 353044;1382152604;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/snsa-rsa-public-key-factorisation-webservice/ 353045;1382152605;ozbot;S.NSA - RSA public key factorisation webservice pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 353046;1382152966;mircea_popescu;and since i dug this up, dropping it here for the ssl fanclub : http://arstechnica.com/business/2011/09/new-javascript-hacking-tool-can-intercept-paypal-other-secure-sessions/ 353047;1382152988;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 967 @ 0.00121322 = 1.1732 BTC [-] {3} 353048;1382153049;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 838 @ 0.00121857 = 1.0212 BTC [+] {3} 353049;1382153050;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.71899999 = 5.752 BTC [+] {2} 353050;1382153171;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4703 @ 0.0008911 = 4.1908 BTC [+] {2} 353051;1382154269;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 10000 @ 0.00151373 = 15.1373 BTC [-] {5} 353052;1382154330;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 276 @ 0.00150001 = 0.414 BTC [-] 353053;1382156111;wxf;kakobrekla 353054;1382156709;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.7298 BTC [+] 353055;1382156786;KRS1;thanks for sharing mircea..i handle SSL certs for the company I work for 353056;1382157258;assbot;[MPEX] [S.NSA] 500000 @ 0.0001 = 50 BTC 353057;1382158478;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.73175999 = 3.6588 BTC [+] {3} 353058;1382158480;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00089165 = 3.0316 BTC [+] 353059;1382158539;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 203 @ 0.00648816 = 1.3171 BTC [+] {3} 353060;1382158600;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 146 @ 0.00659756 = 0.9632 BTC [+] {3} 353061;1382160308;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 16 @ 0.0066 = 0.1056 BTC [+] 353062;1382161894;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.0056 = 0.28 BTC [-] 353063;1382162809;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.749 = 3.745 BTC [+] 353064;1382162931;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 797 @ 0.00089165 = 0.7106 BTC [+] 353065;1382165005;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 631 @ 0.00089211 = 0.5629 BTC [+] 353066;1382165066;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9034 @ 0.00088907 = 8.0319 BTC [-] {2} 353067;1382165554;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 17 @ 0.0069999 = 0.119 BTC [+] 353068;1382166103;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00089248 = 2.0527 BTC [+] 353069;1382166620;b0n1;hey! Is there something like goxtools for btcchina? 353070;1382166896;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 63 @ 0.00585001 = 0.3686 BTC [+] {2} 353071;1382167933;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6650 @ 0.00089347 = 5.9416 BTC [+] 353072;1382168665;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 35 @ 0.00648999 = 0.2271 BTC [+] 353073;1382168970;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.75 = 1.5 BTC [+] 353074;1382169744;kakobrekla;what was the wxf's hostname? 353075;1382170434;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00089253 = 3.3916 BTC [-] 353076;1382170617;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 45 @ 0.006 = 0.27 BTC [-] 353077;1382170861;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.36000002 = 1.08 BTC [-] 353078;1382170983;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.75222222 = 6.77 BTC [+] {2} 353079;1382171532;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 130 @ 0.00648076 = 0.8425 BTC [+] {2} 353080;1382172325;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 47 @ 0.00648999 = 0.305 BTC [+] 353081;1382172326;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5000 @ 0.00017994 = 0.8997 BTC [-] 353082;1382172874;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00089121 = 3.9213 BTC [-] 353083;1382174765;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.789 = 3.945 BTC [+] 353084;1382174826;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3548 @ 0.00089165 = 3.1636 BTC [+] {2} 353085;1382175009;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2550 @ 0.00089171 = 2.2739 BTC [+] 353086;1382175375;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 10 @ 0.0693 = 0.693 BTC [+] {2} 353087;1382175924;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.789999 = 2.37 BTC [+] 353088;1382175925;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00088914 = 3.6455 BTC [-] 353089;1382175985;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.7899996 = 7.9 BTC [+] {2} 353090;1382176229;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.79 = 2.37 BTC [+] 353091;1382176290;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.79979998 BTC [+] 353092;1382177354;jurov;"Bitcoin 2013 Revolutionary Money Making! Build your own Cloud Miner! Actual Now" so now i get bitcoin spam, nice 353093;1382177371;kakobrekla;its been crazy for last 2 weeks 353094;1382177372;jurov;there was other one supposedly from bitcoin.org, too 353095;1382177375;kakobrekla;i get like 5 emails a day 353096;1382177383;kakobrekla;btc spam 353097;1382177385;kakobrekla;or scam 353098;1382177414;kakobrekla;not sure how many gets stopped by the spam filter 353099;1382177420;kakobrekla;but that much gets through 353100;1382177449;jurov;yes there were some in spam folder 353101;1382177574;jurov;donate to bitcoin fundation! 1PPqWCmzDeBxgtfwNPqekzHBTzxnkXba5i lol 353102;1382177597;jurov;and also LTC: LLqWMnmCA2D51Lc5eSt5zaMADVgFRMEAzs moar lol 353103;1382177696;kakobrekla;yeah 353104;1382177720;kakobrekla;i think its unrealted to bitcointalk hack 353105;1382177735;kakobrekla;cause its comming via some other mail 353106;1382177741;kakobrekla;then what im using there 353107;1382177767;kakobrekla;but it did start around that time 353108;1382177839;jurov;this definitely came to my email not used for bitctalk 353109;1382177920;jurov;but rly, bitcoin foundation accepting litecoin donations... makes me giggle 353110;1382177937;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 109 @ 0.00648999 = 0.7074 BTC [+] {2} 353111;1382177998;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.0065 = 0.13 BTC [+] 353112;1382178059;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 80 @ 0.0065 = 0.52 BTC [+] 353113;1382178120;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.00667 = 0.2001 BTC [+] 353114;1382178181;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 150 @ 0.00689928 = 1.0349 BTC [+] {5} 353115;1382178242;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 26 @ 0.00689999 = 0.1794 BTC [+] 353116;1382178425;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 47 @ 0.00689999 = 0.3243 BTC [+] {2} 353117;1382178486;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.849999 = 2.55 BTC [+] 353118;1382178974;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.00246998 = 1.235 BTC [+] {2} 353119;1382179157;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 407 @ 0.00719667 = 2.929 BTC [+] {4} 353120;1382179279;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.849999 = 2.55 BTC [+] 353121;1382179401;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1550 @ 0.00089171 = 1.3822 BTC [+] 353122;1382179462;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 171 @ 0.0072397 = 1.238 BTC [+] {2} 353123;1382179523;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00089177 = 9.1852 BTC [+] {2} 353124;1382179523;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.0074 = 0.37 BTC [+] 353125;1382179618;kakobrekla;http://fc14.ifca.ai/bitcoin/cfp.html 353126;1382179619;ozbot;BITCOIN 14: Workshop on Bitcoin Research 2014 (Call for Papers) 353127;1382179646;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.849999 = 2.55 BTC [+] 353128;1382179706;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.00748999 = 0.2996 BTC [+] 353129;1382180560;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21650 @ 0.00088855 = 19.2371 BTC [-] {6} 353130;1382180804;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.8 = 3.2 BTC [-] 353131;1382181597;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 281 @ 0.00748999 = 2.1047 BTC [+] {2} 353132;1382181780;assbot;[MPEX] [S.NSA] 100000 @ 0.0001 = 10 BTC 353133;1382181963;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.8 = 7.2 BTC [-] 353134;1382182573;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.00122 = 0.122 BTC [-] 353135;1382183392;pankkake;so, bitcoin is 2 billion usd now 353136;1382183427;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00089284 = 1.7857 BTC [+] 353137;1382183487;JWU42;;;seen burnside 353138;1382183488;gribble;burnside was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 12 weeks, 2 days, 17 hours, 16 minutes, and 1 second ago: lol 353139;1382183497;JWU42;well that won't work 353140;1382183500;JWU42;hrm 353141;1382183610;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.8 BTC [-] 353142;1382183821;pankkake;his last words were relevant 353143;1382184028;JWU42;pankkake: heh 353144;1382184037;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69348300 BTC to 1`386`966 shares, 50 satoshi per share 353145;1382184230;Namworld;Burnside: "lel! Fuck all these regulations and red tape and planning, I'm out of here. (ﾉಥ益ಥ）ﾉ┻━┻" 353146;1382184309;Vexual;unbeliezable 353147;1382184379;Namworld;Burnside wasn't in Belize himself tho... 353148;1382184430;Vexual;no, and im sure he'll kick himself for not making a different move 353149;1382184774;Vexual;uncle sam would do well to provide competent bitcoin lawyers instead of food stamps for a few weeks 353150;1382185049;Vexual;that wouldnt be very satoshi tho 353151;1382185466;Vexual;i guess burnside will get a job at facebook 353152;1382185562;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.144 BTC [+] 353153;1382185989;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00089284 = 4.3749 BTC [+] 353154;1382186111;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 19 @ 0.00772631 = 0.1468 BTC [-] {2} 353155;1382186355;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00088987 = 1.3348 BTC [-] 353156;1382186359;Vexual;i hope the possums don't eat all my mangos before i get some 353157;1382186743;Vexual;ill wait until they're mostly ripe 353158;1382186750;Vexual;hey 353159;1382186771;mircea_popescu;ahoy. 353160;1382186791;Vexual;i was running out of m p sentences to summon you cap'n 353161;1382186828;mircea_popescu;lol 353162;1382186876;Vexual;theres always a healthy dose of vitamin truth in my foolishness 353163;1382186877;Scrat;oy vey 353164;1382186886;Vexual;yey 353165;1382186976;mircea_popescu;"Thanks to Adrien Chen, the whole internet knew about Silk Road" 353166;1382186983;mircea_popescu;dude these media fuckwits need to get a grip. 353167;1382187000;Vexual;whats a chen? 353168;1382187011;mircea_popescu;nobody ever heard or ever gave a shit about all their little self-famous circlejerk 353169;1382187018;mircea_popescu;Vexual some gawker nobody. 353170;1382187045;Vexual;well whoever dpr was, he wouldna got so much money if people hadnt heard 353171;1382187114;Vexual;and thats why that guy got busted, coz the shit went bubblegum, and the real dpr didnt want the trouble 353172;1382187114;mircea_popescu;but people didn't hear from some schmuck the other media schmucks know 353173;1382187125;mircea_popescu;because people don't give a shit about gawker, and conde nast, and all the rest of it. 353174;1382187148;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8796 @ 0.00088986 = 7.8272 BTC [-] {2} 353175;1382187155;Vexual;i couldnt even tell you the url for gawker 353176;1382187220;Vexual;i couldnt find a broken gpg key to check your checker with 353177;1382187298;mircea_popescu;so check it with a not broker one 353178;1382187335;Vexual;eh 353179;1382187464;mircea_popescu;"No explanation is necessary for why our hero can hear a ringing telephone but not the movie's soundtrack, or why the space ship is menaced by the Negative Space Wedgie, but not by the opening credits drifting by outside the ship" 353180;1382187474;mircea_popescu;tvtropes might be the best website on the internets. 353181;1382187528;Vexual;im just thinking and i can't think of one website i need to see, what is this? 353182;1382187567;Vexual;do i look everyday? 353183;1382187590;mircea_popescu;http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/WesternAnimation/Animaniacs 353184;1382187591;ozbot;WesternAnimation/Animaniacs - Television Tropes & Idioms 353185;1382187592;Vexual;i see anime and skimask ads 353186;1382187660;Vexual;speaking of speilbeg, ive been attempting kubrik, and ive come to the conclusion that hes a bit crap 353187;1382187761;Vexual;good crap. comptetant 353188;1382187838;Vexual;id love to se what speilberg could do with 2 hours of film if he went weird 353189;1382188229;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-Xm4V8ihos 353190;1382188229;ozbot;Family Dog - K9 Terror - YouTube 353191;1382188240;KRS1;;;sell 1000 353192;1382188240;gribble;(sell [at|@] []) -- Logs a sell order for units of per unit, in units of . Use the optional field to put in any special notes. may include an arithmetical expression, and {(mtgox|bitstamp)(ask|bid|last|high|low|avg)} to index price to mtgox ask, bid, last, high, low, or avg (1 more message) 353193;1382188249;KRS1;;;sell 1000 @ 185 353194;1382188249;gribble;(sell [at|@] []) -- Logs a sell order for units of per unit, in units of . Use the optional field to put in any special notes. may include an arithmetical expression, and {(mtgox|bitstamp)(ask|bid|last|high|low|avg)} to index price to mtgox ask, bid, last, high, low, or avg (1 more message) 353195;1382188292;BigBitz;;;market sell 1000 353196;1382188294;gribble;A market order to sell 1000 bitcoins right now would net 182283.1834 USD and would take the last price down to 181.0100 USD, resulting in an average price of 182.2832 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0004 seconds 353197;1382188313;KRS1;ah thanks 353198;1382188316;BigBitz;np :) 353199;1382188333;KRS1;just seeing what this sell order for 1000 btc or so will do 353200;1382188347;KRS1;not much apparently 353201;1382188353;BigBitz;You're selling 1000BTC? 353202;1382188431;mircea_popescu;da fuck 182 ?@ 353203;1382188433;mircea_popescu;$avg 353204;1382188434;mpexbot;mircea_popescu: 166.30 353205;1382188451;Vexual;got hit 197 AUD tonight 353206;1382188451;mircea_popescu;whoa how long have i been asleep 353207;1382188459;Vexual;*x 353208;1382188467;KRS1;idk..its tuesday. 353209;1382188484;KRS1;not me..i saw an order for that 353210;1382188489;Vexual;everyones buying bitcoin for xmas 353211;1382188551;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00088988 = 7.119 BTC [+] {2} 353212;1382188560;KRS1;im gonna buy some for my landscaper 353213;1382188571;Vexual;is she hot? 353214;1382188573;mircea_popescu;so we see 500 this year is the idea here ? 353215;1382188596;Vexual;300 feels limit before 14 353216;1382188677;Vexual;after that, you divide 70billion by 21 million 353217;1382188680;Namworld;The idea is people go crazy upward, downward, sideway 353218;1382188688;Namworld;and prices move erratically and dramatically 353219;1382188703;mircea_popescu;Namworld i would say this lift is legit. 353220;1382188709;mircea_popescu;we are just that big. 353221;1382188736;BigBitz;I should sell my casascius coins, right ? 353222;1382188749;mircea_popescu;maybe next week or w/e 353223;1382188779;Namworld;Are you sarcastic or...? 353224;1382188788;mircea_popescu;Namworld nah, straight up. 353225;1382188805;Vexual;all the computers 353226;1382188819;Namworld;As much as I believe in Bitcoin's growth, I don't believe in overnight 10-30% changes 353227;1382188829;Vexual;remember email? 353228;1382188835;Vexual;can't i just email you? 353229;1382188840;Vexual;nope 353230;1382188843;Vexual;now, yes 353231;1382188898;Vexual;its an unstoppable internet protocol for money 353232;1382188908;Vexual;deal with it 353233;1382188909;mircea_popescu;Namworld well, allignment to secular implicit value will happen in spurts and bursts. 353234;1382188924;mircea_popescu;looking from the other way, some such sudden moves are legit, some aren't. 353235;1382188962;mircea_popescu;bitcoin has been accumulating major strengths over the past 6 months the price flatlined. an upmove isn't that big a deal really. 353236;1382188975;Vexual;this aint sghit 353237;1382188982;mircea_popescu;consider : difficulty up 1k%, clear proof delivered that sr didn't matter for bitcoin, and that usg doesn't matter for bitcoin... 353238;1382189002;Namworld;Well we'll have to see. I've seen quick, wavering up and downs like the market can't make up it's mind. 353239;1382189022;mircea_popescu;governments throwing in the haughty towel and getting in line to mine like anyone else... 353240;1382189029;BigBitz;This is sell offs in BTC on MTGox/Bitstamp. 353241;1382189031;mircea_popescu;we're sensibly closer to world domination today than in march. 353242;1382189038;BigBitz;People who don't want to give into the AML/KYC. 353243;1382189043;BigBitz;When this is done it will plummet again. 353244;1382189069;Namworld;Maybe. I can't really believe it yet. 353245;1382189083;mircea_popescu;Namworld imo it's wealth realingning. X value btc is held by a different set of owners than 2X value btc. 353246;1382189084;Namworld;Although such a rising price certainly can't hurt my finances. 353247;1382189094;Vexual;u better check your head nam, this iz interenet business 353248;1382189098;mircea_popescu;it just burns holes when kept in the wrong pockets 353249;1382189110;Vexual;gotta spend some for sure 353250;1382189132;Vexual;satoshi was very clever 353251;1382189153;Namworld;Well off I go, goodbye. Will have to keep updated on price movements later. 353252;1382189161;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.85791665 = 5.1475 BTC [+] {2} 353253;1382189162;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00802799 = 0.4014 BTC [+] {4} 353254;1382189222;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 43 @ 0.00828999 = 0.3565 BTC [+] 353255;1382189283;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 57 @ 0.00828999 = 0.4725 BTC [+] 353256;1382189314;Vexual;there hasnt been a real new ip sonce <1990 353257;1382189442;Vexual;skype doent count 353258;1382190015;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 634 @ 0.00726854 = 4.6083 BTC [-] {8} 353259;1382190016;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.74200002 = 6.678 BTC [-] {4} 353260;1382190076;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 41 @ 0.73329414 = 30.0651 BTC [-] {4} 353261;1382190156;Vexual;friecats woth half a billion now? 353262;1382190190;mircea_popescu;nothing changed, btc went up about what am went down 353263;1382190209;Vexual;that cat is good at playing currencies 353264;1382190243;Vexual;e can sell 1000s privately 353265;1382190254;Vexual;no problemo 353266;1382190291;Vexual;cheap design, slaves, baldes, bitcoin 353267;1382190324;Vexual;he'll do it again 353268;1382190337;pankkake;bald slaves? 353269;1382190356;Vexual;typo 353270;1382190359;Vexual;blade 353271;1382190388;Vexual;his little noodle sluping kids will inherit the business and keep doing it 353272;1382190543;Vexual;im sure his best slaves get brazillians tho, we've got a global culture now 353273;1382190622;Vexual;i trust the market on am valuation, there is no other metric 353274;1382190661;Vexual;except for whats in the bank 353275;1382190675;Vexual;+ whatever 1 crazy chinese is worth 353276;1382190693;pankkake;;;bc,stats 353277;1382190696;gribble;Current Blocks: 264662 | Current Difficulty: 2.677312494824211E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 266111 | Next Difficulty In: 1449 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 19 hours, 16 minutes, and 3 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 344240533.308 | Estimated Percent Change: 28.5769 353278;1382190715;pankkake;wow, are we going to see more than 40% this time? 353279;1382190746;yeahyeah;yes 353280;1382190770;Vexual;my 7770 his a block very week 353281;1382190916;Vexual;but im goot at rain dances 353282;1382191071;Vexual;hehe mobgod 353283;1382191096;MobGod;sup Vexual 353284;1382191104;Vexual;what is up 353285;1382191139;MobGod;nothing much you 353286;1382191139;virtuals;;;ticker 353287;1382191139;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 189.00000, Best ask: 189.33287, Bid-ask spread: 0.33287, Last trade: 188.75001, 24 hour volume: 48040.76900124, 24 hour low: 162.03400, 24 hour high: 195.83267, 24 hour vwap: 177.23521 353288;1382191148;MobGod;thought you need me lol 353289;1382191163;MobGod;guess you were laughing at the part and rejoin 353290;1382191165;Vexual;he he hgow quikly we forget 353291;1382191178;MobGod;refresh my memory please 353292;1382191190;Vexual;http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_KkMItZfxr7w/SYdrLBtGRbI/AAAAAAAAAZk/PnnWogGY83o/s400/lake-arlington-gold-chain.jpg 353293;1382191193;MobGod;i've been AFK for a bit 353294;1382191209;Vexual;yes you sold all your coin for silver at 60 353295;1382191226;MobGod;not all 353296;1382191249;MobGod;i still have plenty in my eyes 353297;1382191319;MobGod;Vexual i turned my silver into gold also i'm doing ok 353298;1382191352;MobGod;proubly not where i could have been but i'm not hurting thats for sure 353299;1382191357;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11079 @ 0.00089284 = 9.8918 BTC [+] 353300;1382191448;Vexual;well if you want precious metal buy gold 353301;1382191585;Vexual;silver makes a nice butt plug 353302;1382191599;MobGod;lol i've been buying gold 353303;1382191605;MobGod;well what i can get my hands on 353304;1382191613;mircea_popescu;Vexual i recall the argument re silver about three months ago 353305;1382191620;mircea_popescu;goat got really frazzled we were lauighiong at his silver. 353306;1382191625;Vexual;i wasnt there mp 353307;1382191644;Vexual;goat got a butt plug? dont surprise me 353308;1382191690;Vexual;if you want gold, go dig up papua new guinea 353309;1382191703;MobGod;haha 353310;1382191729;Vexual;but you can take excitable maidens and money and boom sticks and the cheif will still eat your head for dinner 353311;1382191852;Vexual;hes not savage tho, he just knows you're an idiot for thinking you can get a bulldozer in 353312;1382191934;mircea_popescu;actually they want to dig up romania 353313;1382191940;mircea_popescu;there's ~2bn in gold under a mountain in the nw 353314;1382191945;Vexual;for gold? 353315;1382191951;mircea_popescu;plus w/e, 10-50bn in other rare metals. 353316;1382191970;Vexual;who owns it? 353317;1382192014;Vexual;some russian gangster 353318;1382192016;Vexual;? 353319;1382192063;mircea_popescu;it ? nobody owns it. 353320;1382192089;Vexual;mineral rights, somwone must own it, romainia is quite civilized 353321;1382192163;Vexual;like 5000 years civilized 353322;1382192199;mircea_popescu;which is why you have to get the state to approve your project. 353323;1382192210;mircea_popescu;which in this case takes a parliament vote 353324;1382192219;mircea_popescu;which has been sought for about 12 years by now 353325;1382192257;Vexual;they don't think it's viable, or environmental concerns? 353326;1382192333;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7350 @ 0.00089284 = 6.5624 BTC [+] 353327;1382192343;mircea_popescu;people just don't want it. 353328;1382192439;Vexual;romania makes more bitcoin than gold 353329;1382192445;Vexual;cool 353330;1382192499;Vexual;is it a nice mountain? 353331;1382192524;mircea_popescu;well, here's the thing : the romans knew therte's gold there 353332;1382192549;mircea_popescu;probably the most extensive and best preserved roman gold exploitation in the world. 353333;1382192557;Vexual;no shit 353334;1382192585;Vexual;is fossiking allowed? 353335;1382192626;mircea_popescu;sure, you can go in 353336;1382192638;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.75000001 = 2.25 BTC [+] 353337;1382192644;mircea_popescu;romania is very lax, there's an ancient roman bath some other place which is still watered and you can just go swim 353338;1382192679;Vexual;minelab gpx 5000 353339;1382192699;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.74675 = 4.4805 BTC [-] {2} 353340;1382192780;Vexual;maidens? 353341;1382192853;Vexual;are there any left in romania that havent been with mp? 353342;1382193224;pankkake;http://archive.lewrockwell.com/north/north436.html on why silver isn't that great 353343;1382193252;pankkake;Vexual> silver makes a nice butt plug <- eh, many people are allergic to silver 353344;1382193272;Vexual;tarnishes the anus 353345;1382193273;pankkake;so gold (or of course titanium) is probably better 353346;1382193329;mircea_popescu;alergic o silver?! 353347;1382193359;Vexual;anal bead made of several pecious metals on a string is a lovely gift for tht special somene 353348;1382193360;mircea_popescu;this is weird tho, allergies are immune mediated inflamatory responses 353349;1382193372;mircea_popescu;they should be to proteins, what marker recognises silver ?! 353350;1382193373;pankkake;hmm actually it looks like it's not the silver that's causing the problem, but nickel 353351;1382193375;Vexual;allergies are for wuss 353352;1382193383;pankkake;so .999 silver butt plug should be ok :) 353353;1382193386;mircea_popescu;thats a toxic reaction not an allergy 353354;1382193398;Vexual;pankakke, fine silver anal expander eh? 353355;1382193408;mircea_popescu;copper oxide is also toxic, for that matter, which is why copper dildoes aren;'t a great idea 353356;1382193441;Vexual;especially in a thundrrstorm with ones cunt to the sky 353357;1382193455;pankkake;http://www.cracked.com/article_19488_14-luxury-sex-toys-extremely-rich-creepy.html 353358;1382193456;ozbot;14 'Luxury' Sex Toys for the Extremely Rich and Creepy | Cracked.com 353359;1382193466;pankkake;> Silver Butt Plug, With Horse Tail 353360;1382193471;pankkake;it's not that expensive too 353361;1382193478;pankkake;I'd buy it, if I had a girl to put it into :/ 353362;1382193501;Vexual;dont ask cracked, ask me, i am competant at metalurgial jewelry with respect to sex toys 353363;1382193511;Vexual;you got no girl pankakke? 353364;1382193516;pankkake;no 353365;1382193526;Vexual;u allergic? 353366;1382193543;pankkake;haha 353367;1382193578;Vexual;get the diamond encrusted butt plug first, show it to some ladies 353368;1382193597;Vexual;you're sure to find a real gem 353369;1382193617;pankkake;eh. the rosebuds? 353370;1382193675;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.7509 = 7.509 BTC [+] {2} 353371;1382193689;Vexual;get a suit cut, strut paris, you be geeting your dick sucked before the sun comes up 353372;1382193761;KRS1;Rosebud: http://blog.totallyannette.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/anal-prolapse.jpg 353373;1382193772;pankkake;:/ 353374;1382193774;Vexual;no 353375;1382193781;KRS1;oh 353376;1382193784;Vexual;im not clicking that 353377;1382193791;KRS1;Vexual: that song Pound Power is great. 353378;1382193801;Vexual;u love it 353379;1382193820;KRS1;if you click that i'll love it 353380;1382193889;Vexual;just make sure those ssl certs are up to date fuckwit 353381;1382194139;pankkake;when I registered my main domain (headfucking.net) I remember hesitating with prolapsis 353382;1382194144;pankkake;but it was taken 353383;1382194160;mircea_popescu; u allergic? << win 353384;1382194184;mircea_popescu;(there exist girls actually allergic to cum btw) 353385;1382194189;Vexual;and you wonder why you dont have a girl pankakke? 353386;1382194203;Vexual;not after me mp 353387;1382194203;pankkake;yeah, skin allergy to cum 353388;1382194212;pankkake;they can still swallow 353389;1382194249;Vexual;immersion therapy 353390;1382194280;Vexual;thats stupid, id like to retract that 353391;1382194468;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00089326 = 5.2702 BTC [+] {2} 353392;1382194672;mircea_popescu;The invention of the Chop-O-Matic caused a problem that marked the entrance of Ron Popeil into television. It turned out that the Chop-O-Matic was so efficient at chopping vegetables, that it was impractical for salesmen to carry the vegetables they needed to chop. 353393;1382194704;Vexual;and so it goes 353394;1382194850;Vexual;if they put the carrot in slowly 353395;1382194992;Vexual;less is more 353396;1382195047;mircea_popescu;http://5secondfilms.com/watch/it_slices_it_dices 353397;1382195076;Vexual;that better not be an anal prolapse 353398;1382195078;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4977 @ 0.00088997 = 4.4294 BTC [-] {3} 353399;1382195122;Vexual;nope 353400;1382195134;Vexual;just a dead hooker 353401;1382195139;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5000 @ 0.00017994 = 0.8997 BTC [-] 353402;1382195169;mircea_popescu;she's not a hooker, she just wants to one day be an actress. 353403;1382195185;assbot;Last 8 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1422451/plain/) 353404;1382195185;mircea_popescu;!b 8 353405;1382195192;Vexual;well shed be rich and alive if she was working with us mp 353406;1382195231;Vexual;prosterity? :) 353407;1382195357;mircea_popescu;so everyone, go buy some sugar while stocks last. 353408;1382195362;mircea_popescu;brazil just went out of the trade. 353409;1382195374;Vexual;what? 353410;1382195383;mircea_popescu;"A fire ravaged Copersucar's sugar terminal in Brazil on Friday, paralyzing operations of the world's biggest sugar trader and putting 10 million tonnes of export capacity offline for six months or more." 353411;1382195405;Vexual;port operations? 353412;1382195434;mircea_popescu;pity i don't stioll have the sugar futures lol 353413;1382195440;Vexual;have you seen those guys? they could load a freighter by hand just as fast 353414;1382195443;mircea_popescu;they'd have conceivably went up enough to stay flat in btc 353415;1382195470;mircea_popescu;well like 1/4mn tons of sugar also burned. 353416;1382195474;mircea_popescu;imagine the smells 353417;1382195485;Vexual;ongoing suger farms are the most expensive land parcels around here 353418;1382195493;pankkake;perhaps people will eat healthy now 353419;1382195499;mircea_popescu;sugar is healthy. 353420;1382195510;mircea_popescu;what's not healthy is too much sugar, or any amt of sugar substitutes. 353421;1382195622;Vexual;too much rhum isnt healthy 353422;1382195654;Vexual;unless you're made of not-wuss 353423;1382195767;Vexual;we make mango and bacardi daquaris here once a year, theres never enough lavatories 353424;1382195922;Vexual;its not the sugar that gets you 353425;1382195993;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 850 @ 0.00048247 = 0.4101 BTC [-] {4} 353426;1382196264;Vexual;drink a half of smirnoff and eat half a kilo of dried apricots for half an approximation of a northern australian mango festival 353427;1382196399;Vexual;it wont hurt you 353428;1382196498;Vexual;unless you have hyperosima 353429;1382196815;Vexual;pankakke, i have placed a personal ad for you in broken french 353430;1382196824;pankkake;:/ 353431;1382196847;Vexual;i made you sound pitiful 353432;1382196869;pankkake;that won't work 353433;1382196886;Vexual;leggy models preffered 353434;1382196893;pankkake;ew 353435;1382196905;Vexual;larger cake fanciers? 353436;1382196908;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5370 @ 0.00088975 = 4.778 BTC [-] 353437;1382196924;pankkake;indeed. and shorter 353438;1382196947;Vexual;well ill have to send them styraight to you, i dont want to vet them 353439;1382196969;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15910 @ 0.0008873 = 14.1169 BTC [-] {4} 353440;1382197137;Vexual;wealthy pervert seeks sturdy smaller lady immediately 353441;1382197171;Vexual;i can't translate 353442;1382197186;pankkake;I'm not wealthy 353443;1382197209;Vexual;is there a word than means wealthyish? 353444;1382197256;Vexual;how about we say fantastic instead of wealthy? would that fit? 353445;1382197274;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.805 = 1.61 BTC [+] {2} 353446;1382197291;pankkake;I guess 353447;1382197335;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.8190069 = 1.638 BTC [+] 353448;1382198372;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3950 @ 0.00088396 = 3.4916 BTC [-] 353449;1382198383;Vexual;goodnight $100 btc 353450;1382198583;mircea_popescu;;;ticker 353451;1382198584;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 187.47398, Best ask: 187.99995, Bid-ask spread: 0.52597, Last trade: 187.10056, 24 hour volume: 45552.55595661, 24 hour low: 162.56145, 24 hour high: 195.83267, 24 hour vwap: 178.96398 353452;1382198978;dexX7;mircea_popescu: you once said "the problem with ssl are the CAs".. so what's your take on issuing your own certificate? i'm aware that users would have to install them themselfs etc., but is there any downsite with ssl by itself? 353453;1382199029;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-10-2013#353046 353454;1382199030;ozbot;#bitcoin-assets log 353455;1382199050;mircea_popescu;there are numerous things that are wrong with the https implementation on multiple levels. 353456;1382199062;mircea_popescu;some could be solved with better implementation, which will never happen. some could not. 353457;1382199101;dexX7;hm.. so what's the solution then? 353458;1382199104;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1967 @ 0.00088396 = 1.7387 BTC [-] 353459;1382199143;mircea_popescu;not using https for any sensitive material. if it's more than the login to some forum/blog/whatever of no consequence, it's no good. 353460;1382199155;asciilifeform;dexX7: the solution is to use crypto which isn't '90s key escrow wine in a new bottle. 353461;1382199247;BigBitz;What's wrong with HTTPS/TLS3 ? 353462;1382199260;BigBitz;or are you discussing the fact that the root CAs could be owned? 353463;1382199298;mircea_popescu;simply pointing out that the website login model is inadequate for any bitcoin anything. 353464;1382199309;asciilifeform;BigBitz: you still think it is a 'could' rather than an 'are' ? 353465;1382199324;BigBitz;asciilifeform that's a debate you could have forever and ever and ever :) 353466;1382199345;BigBitz;should/could/would/had/if/when/then replace it how you want. 353467;1382199363;asciilifeform;BigBitz: no. when some other fellow has a master key to your treasurebox, you're pwned by definition. whether he's bothered to paw through it yet, or not. 353468;1382199388;BigBitz;That's a foolish conception. 353469;1382199395;BigBitz;IF you thought that you'd never do anything in life, ever. 353470;1382199400;mircea_popescu;i am not having any debate. im simply pointing out the facts of the matter. 353471;1382199410;mircea_popescu;people inclined to debate with reality are welcome to their untimely demise. 353472;1382199592;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.78 = 2.34 BTC [-] 353473;1382200390;mircea_popescu;;;nethash 353474;1382200391;gribble;2710671.83678 353475;1382201112;pankkake;"Sorry that you are leaving, I wish I could too, but I have a lot of responsibility to all the shareholder that are staying." kSLAUGHTER 353476;1382201213;mircea_popescu;so this is knc announcing it only has one shareholder ? 353477;1382201339;pankkake;knc? 353478;1382201372;pankkake;it's the notsoactivemining guy 353479;1382201428;mircea_popescu;a sorry. got them mixed up 353480;1382201544;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.73133333 = 6.582 BTC [-] {5} 353481;1382201683;mircea_popescu;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08xQLGWTSag 353482;1382201684;ozbot;As Seen on TV - a tribute to doing it wrong - YouTube 353483;1382202642;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.36000002 = 0.72 BTC [-] 353484;1382203128;virtuals;;;ticker 353485;1382203128;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 171.52762, Best ask: 175.00000, Bid-ask spread: 3.47238, Last trade: 175.00000, 24 hour volume: 53160.61716889, 24 hour low: 163.14133, 24 hour high: 195.83267, 24 hour vwap: 179.53753 353486;1382204655;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 750 @ 0.00225 = 1.6875 BTC [-] 353487;1382204838;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.77 = 5.39 BTC [+] 353488;1382205082;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 18 @ 0.0074 = 0.1332 BTC [-] 353489;1382206180;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8024 @ 0.00088647 = 7.113 BTC [+] 353490;1382206607;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 167 @ 0.00711778 = 1.1887 BTC [-] {5} 353491;1382206729;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.7025 = 5.62 BTC [-] {3} 353492;1382207397;mircea_popescu;and phuctor is over 250 keys loaded now. 353493;1382207403;mircea_popescu;thanks everyone >D 353494;1382208549;mod6;;;bc,stats 353495;1382208564;gribble;Current Blocks: 264704 | Current Difficulty: 2.677312494824211E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 266111 | Next Difficulty In: 1407 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 8 hours, 47 minutes, and 46 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 347388307.954 | Estimated Percent Change: 29.75262 353496;1382209047;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2076 @ 0.00088647 = 1.8403 BTC [+] 353497;1382209108;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 175 @ 0.001199 = 0.2098 BTC [-] 353498;1382209291;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 24 @ 0.0075 = 0.18 BTC [+] 353499;1382209657;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 50 @ 0.0075 = 0.375 BTC [+] 353500;1382209718;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.77000001 = 1.54 BTC [+] 353501;1382209719;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 50 @ 0.0075 = 0.375 BTC [+] {2} 353502;1382210206;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.79 = 1.58 BTC [+] 353503;1382210267;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 53 @ 0.36720402 = 19.4618 BTC [+] {3} 353504;1382210512;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 15 @ 0.0075 = 0.1125 BTC [+] 353505;1382210694;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2725 @ 0.00088992 = 2.425 BTC [+] 353506;1382210755;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7724 @ 0.00088922 = 6.8683 BTC [-] 353507;1382210755;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 26 @ 0.0075 = 0.195 BTC [+] 353508;1382211304;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 900 @ 0.00088494 = 0.7964 BTC [-] 353509;1382211304;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 30 @ 0.0075 = 0.225 BTC [+] {2} 353510;1382211526;mircea_popescu;http://www.playdeb.net/ << for the lulz. 353511;1382211527;ozbot;DNS points to prohibited IP | www.playdeb.net | CloudFlare 353512;1382211536;mircea_popescu;cloudflare says your ip is 216.201.78.13 ? 353513;1382211670;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 70 @ 0.0075 = 0.525 BTC [+] 353514;1382212219;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 77 @ 0.0075 = 0.5775 BTC [+] 353515;1382212280;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 25 @ 0.009 = 0.225 BTC [+] 353516;1382212341;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 14 @ 0.009 = 0.126 BTC [+] 353517;1382212463;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6945 @ 0.00088488 = 6.1455 BTC [-] {2} 353518;1382212585;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.72 BTC [-] 353519;1382214294;jurov;;;bc,convert eur 353520;1382214294;gribble;1 BTC = 179.00002 U.S. dollars = 130.857533 Euros 353521;1382215513;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10227 @ 0.00089002 = 9.1022 BTC [+] {3} 353522;1382216428;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00691 = 0.691 BTC [-] 353523;1382217892;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.00691 = 0.2073 BTC [-] 353524;1382218136;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 200 @ 0.00119005 = 0.238 BTC [-] {2} 353525;1382218197;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.00118193 = 0.1182 BTC [-] {4} 353526;1382218502;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 263 @ 0.00691 = 1.8173 BTC [-] 353527;1382218563;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1874 @ 0.00089015 = 1.6681 BTC [+] {2} 353528;1382219295;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.71055555 = 6.395 BTC [-] {5} 353529;1382219722;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00088608 = 2.8355 BTC [-] 353530;1382219722;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 10 @ 0.071 = 0.71 BTC [+] 353531;1382220210;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6611 BTC [-] 353532;1382220271;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.66101 = 5.9491 BTC [-] 353533;1382220576;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 7 @ 0.0729 = 0.5103 BTC [+] 353534;1382221857;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 395 @ 0.00669893 = 2.6461 BTC [-] {7} 353535;1382221918;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 224 @ 0.00653479 = 1.4638 BTC [-] {6} 353536;1382221979;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 222 @ 0.00600331 = 1.3327 BTC [-] {5} 353537;1382222163;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 4 @ 0.146 = 0.584 BTC [-] {2} 353538;1382222284;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3150 @ 0.0008856 = 2.7896 BTC [-] 353539;1382222345;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1785 @ 0.00117718 = 2.1013 BTC [-] {3} 353540;1382222650;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 117 @ 0.00117309 = 0.1373 BTC [-] {3} 353541;1382222651;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.36300001 = 1.089 BTC [-] {2} 353542;1382222833;assbot;[MPEX] [S.BBET] 5000 @ 0.00061999 = 3.1 BTC [+] 353543;1382223077;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11620 @ 0.00088517 = 10.2857 BTC [-] {3} 353544;1382223748;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10510 @ 0.00088657 = 9.3179 BTC [+] {2} 353545;1382227637;kakobrekla;says im not old enough to see it 353546;1382227653;Namworld;We must be using a different google or something 353547;1382227680;kakobrekla;the thing is persofuckinglized dood 353548;1382227690;kakobrekla;i get completley diff results if i open private tab 353549;1382227896;Namworld;Haha... wow, and I don't even have safe search on... 353550;1382227905;Namworld;Something might be wrong with me... 353551;1382227997;Namworld;oh... I get the same images as you 353552;1382228008;Namworld;They're just all the way at the bottom 353553;1382228030;kakobrekla;aha 353554;1382228252;Namworld;My results are mostly deviantart robots... followed by randm web comics... followed by a whole lot of mixed google+, deviantart amd log.bitcoin-assets.com pictures 353555;1382228297;Namworld;pictures associated to log.bitcoin-assets.com are weird... 353556;1382228327;kakobrekla;well, we are a fun bunch 353557;1382228516;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 670 @ 0.00202 = 1.3534 BTC [-] {2} 353558;1382228521;Namworld;I think deviant would be a more appropriate term. Much more so than "deviant"art. 353559;1382228669;kakobrekla;so neobee is now at 50% discount 353560;1382228686;kakobrekla;or was ti 0.003? 353561;1382228709;Namworld;Yeah, to me, whatever the price is, it's still infinite premium over 0 353562;1382228772;mircea_popescu;i thought it ipod at 0.001 no ? 353563;1382228834;kakobrekla;!t h neobee 353564;1382228835;assbot;[HAVELOCK:NEOBEE] 1D: 0.00150001 / 0.00180878 / 0.00246998 (19794 shares, 35.80302167 BTC), 7D: 0.00150001 / 0.00217264 / 0.00284900 (41823 shares, 90.86637261 BTC), 30D: 0.00150001 / 0.00287477 / 0.10000000 (319221 shares, 917.68672248 BTC) 353565;1382229149;mircea_popescu;ah 0.0015 k 353566;1382229197;kakobrekla;Private Tranche - 1,100,000 Shares - Sold privately to Angel Investors 353567;1382229198;kakobrekla;Pre-IPVO Offering - 500,000 Shares @ 0.0025 BTC each 353568;1382229198;kakobrekla;(Pre-IPVO Offering, available only to XBOND holders, see next section) 353569;1382229198;kakobrekla;Public Offering - 8,000,000 Shares @ 0.003 BTC each 353570;1382229327;mircea_popescu;oh ?! 353571;1382229340;mircea_popescu;well the 0.003 ain't happening then. 353572;1382229352;kakobrekla;what do you mean 353573;1382229354;mircea_popescu;so wait. wait wait. of the 500k about 319k sold ? 353574;1382229358;kakobrekla;it already happend 353575;1382229376;mircea_popescu;so it didn't happen on havelock ? 353576;1382229401;Namworld;Google images for log.bitcoin-assets.com shows the weirdest images... I think I'll blame .bait and also dub. For porn pics, mircea. 353577;1382229406;kakobrekla;i dunno tbh, afaik it went live with 0.003 on all platforms at the time 353578;1382229413;kakobrekla;prolly not all sold 353579;1382229419;Namworld;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-08-2013#199718 353580;1382229422;Namworld;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-05-2013&bots=true#30772 353581;1382229422;ozbot;#bitcoin-assets log 353582;1382229424;ozbot;#bitcoin-assets log 353583;1382229440;mircea_popescu;http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcoor3YEGZ1r3khrvo1_1280.jpg 353584;1382229528;Namworld;I see work is still in progress. 353585;1382229602;kakobrekla;the right one seems familiar 353586;1382229755;mircea_popescu;meanwhile in godzilla land, http://intellihub.com/2013/08/01/you-wont-believe-whats-going-on-at-fukushima-right-now/ 353587;1382229886;Namworld;GOJIRA!!! 353588;1382230200;Namworld;So, when's fusion technology going to be ready? 353589;1382230220;freshcoin;hopefully tomorrow. 353590;1382230238;mircea_popescu;two weeks. 353591;1382230270;Namworld;lol, 2 weeks 353592;1382230529;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4950 @ 0.00088788 = 4.395 BTC [+] 353593;1382230895;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 20 @ 0.07295994 = 1.4592 BTC [+] {2} 353594;1382231057;KRS1;i was speaking to a professor through an associate of mine who is using particle beams to heat up pellets to create the pressure needed to begin the fusion process they are very close 353595;1382231073;KRS1;if or when this does come into practical use it will be a very different world. 353596;1382231109;Namworld;They can already make fusion. They just can't keep it running to harness energy. 353597;1382231454;KRS1;right..its not practical yet. 353598;1382231483;KRS1;what happened with that company that was using plasma to destroy garbage and make energy..last i heard they were buying garbage from NYC 353599;1382231516;KRS1;http://www.plascoenergygroup.com/ 353600;1382231517;ozbot;Plasco Energy Group 353601;1382231521;KRS1;yeh kick ass 353602;1382232399;KRS1;kick ass i love pics 353603;1382232470;KRS1;damn I wanted to go to Japan one day too..gotta cross that off my list...although the monster sushi caused by the dna damage from the radiation might be rather tasty. 353604;1382232491;KRS1;Japanese Hello Kitty girls too..hmm. 353605;1382232960;Namworld;What did I say again about "deviant" being an appropriate term for bitcoin-assets? 353606;1382233011;mircea_popescu;http://nosuchlabs.com/stats 353607;1382233012;ozbot;So far: 353608;1382233023;mircea_popescu;that thing's fascinating me atm 353609;1382233028;mircea_popescu;almost manages to keep pace! 353610;1382233945;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2314 @ 0.00196389 = 4.5444 BTC [-] {7} 353611;1382235226;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00088886 = 3.111 BTC [+] {2} 353612;1382235734;Diablo-D3;lol 353613;1382235742;Diablo-D3;icebreaker is accusing me of stealing the btcmc shares 353614;1382236385;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5650 @ 0.00088788 = 5.0165 BTC [-] 353615;1382236803;Namworld;He's not wrong. I still think you should have done a full liquidation and distributed whatever you got for that, then moved on to the reworking of your project. 353616;1382237018;Diablo-D3;Namworld: I did do a full liquidation 353617;1382237030;Diablo-D3;Namworld: problem is, no one is bidding on the yochdog debt, nor has he paid out 353618;1382237042;Diablo-D3;theres nothing TO pay 353619;1382237079;Namworld;Assuming it was auctioned off... I know BTCMC has currently nothing to give out. 353620;1382237092;Diablo-D3;yes, and as I just said 353621;1382237096;Diablo-D3;no one wants his debt 353622;1382237104;Diablo-D3;because everyone knows its not worth a dime 353623;1382237514;Namworld;I'm sure some people would bid something if it was auctioned off. 353624;1382237971;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.7795 BTC [+] 353625;1382238060;Namworld;Was there ever auction threads? 353626;1382238947;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 0.0729999 = 0.292 BTC [+] 353627;1382239008;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 38 @ 0.00698866 = 0.2656 BTC [+] {4} 353628;1382239069;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00088788 = 1.4206 BTC [-] 353629;1382239092;Diablo-D3;Namworld: no. 353630;1382240777;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00089122 = 4.2779 BTC [+] 353631;1382241143;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00088806 = 4.8843 BTC [-] 353632;1382241997;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 664 @ 0.00089122 = 0.5918 BTC [+] 353633;1382243034;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4136 @ 0.00089262 = 3.6919 BTC [+] 353634;1382243949;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4 = 1.2 BTC [+] 353635;1382244193;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2269 @ 0.00089313 = 2.0265 BTC [+] {2} 353636;1382244925;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4850 @ 0.00088804 = 4.307 BTC [-] {2} 353637;1382246389;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 0.0729999 = 0.146 BTC [+] 353638;1382247609;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.25 BTC [+] 353639;1382250049;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 7215 @ 0.00017994 = 1.2983 BTC [-] 353640;1382250171;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.74 = 7.4 BTC [-] 353641;1382250882;Ukyo;jurov: ukyo is around. just very very busy 353642;1382251940;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 0.0729999 = 0.146 BTC [+] 353643;1382254197;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1850 @ 0.00088953 = 1.6456 BTC [+] 353644;1382254929;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.00117458 = 0.1175 BTC [-] {5} 353645;1382255051;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 2066 @ 0.001173 = 2.4234 BTC [-] {3} 353646;1382255112;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 2302 @ 0.00115011 = 2.6476 BTC [-] {7} 353647;1382255295;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 161 @ 0.00689999 = 1.1109 BTC [-] {2} 353648;1382255356;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 135 @ 0.00690732 = 0.9325 BTC [+] {3} 353649;1382255357;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 650 @ 0.00089217 = 0.5799 BTC [+] 353650;1382255417;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 175 @ 0.00732746 = 1.2823 BTC [+] {7} 353651;1382255478;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 110 @ 0.00738726 = 0.8126 BTC [+] {4} 353652;1382255539;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 26 @ 0.00738999 = 0.1921 BTC [+] 353653;1382255783;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 45 @ 0.00753888 = 0.3392 BTC [+] {4} 353654;1382255844;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 52 @ 0.007689 = 0.3998 BTC [+] 353655;1382256088;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 12 @ 0.07545831 = 0.9055 BTC [+] {7} 353656;1382256146;Diablo-D3;LOL 353657;1382256165;Diablo-D3;Namworld, Ukyo: icebreaker seems to think the btcmc shares are worth thousands of btc 353658;1382256182;Diablo-D3;lolololol. 353659;1382256269;Diablo-D3;oh and the best part is 353660;1382256276;Diablo-D3;he sold his DMC shares already 353661;1382256300;Diablo-D3;even if he "gets his way" (>0% of 0 is still 0), he still doesnt get his way. 353662;1382256857;VanCleef;good on cuban standing up to those bullies at sec 353663;1382256921;KRS1;;;seen chaang-noi 353664;1382256922;gribble;chaang-noi was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 weeks, 1 day, 15 hours, 53 minutes, and 25 seconds ago: TOM FORD 353665;1382256934;KRS1;oh no TOM FORD again 353666;1382257028;Namworld;Well he's free to disagree with you not selling them for best offer and distributing proceeds, even if he doesn't hold anything. 353667;1382257039;Namworld;But whatever... 353668;1382257142;VanCleef;who's rockin a tom ford suit? 353669;1382257292;KRS1;its mentioned in an annoying jay-z song a rapper who has very little talent 353670;1382257345;KRS1;where has chaang-noi been anyone know? for that matter bowjob too 353671;1382257395;KRS1;just curious 353672;1382257723;Namworld;Nope 353673;1382258298;VanCleef;camel face 353674;1382258679;asdfgf;is bitbet.us legal to use in the united states just wondering before I try it out 353675;1382259077;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 400 @ 0.00115 = 0.46 BTC [-] 353676;1382259870;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2550 @ 0.00088788 = 2.2641 BTC [-] 353677;1382260122;KRS1;VanCleef: I knew a girl like that..some dude did actually call her camel because..well...she had a camel face. 353678;1382260128;KRS1;she used to drink a lot too 353679;1382260166;VanCleef;and rocked a nice camel toe? 353680;1382260186;KRS1;yeah she had a hot bod..but you had to get past that face. 353681;1382260229;KRS1;she was a 'moped' 353682;1382260251;KRS1;Mopeds are cool and all but like her, you wouldn't want your friends to see you on one. 353683;1382260266;VanCleef;haha yeh 353684;1382260279;dub;;;ud moped 353685;1382260279;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=moped | A person of the opposite sex who is not attractive, but you would have sex with. 353686;1382260280;ozbot;Urban Dictionary: moped 353687;1382260286;KRS1;definate moped 353688;1382260291;dub;interdasting 353689;1382260385;pankkake;what's a camel face? I see what are horse faces, but not camel faces 353690;1382261309;VanCleef;chicks that look like jayz 353691;1382262100;pankkake;wow I now have less than 13 ignores, the warning disappeared. I must be doing something wrong 353692;1382262334;bitesak;;;ticker 353693;1382262334;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 182.00000, Best ask: 182.48978, Bid-ask spread: 0.48978, Last trade: 182.00000, 24 hour volume: 44746.06780269, 24 hour low: 170.00000, 24 hour high: 195.83267, 24 hour vwap: 183.22873 353694;1382262345;bitesak;;;next 353695;1382262345;gribble;See latest update from Onefixt here: https://twitter.com/BitcoinOracle/ 353696;1382262970;jurov;http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-24571219 ibm going into mining >D 353697;1382262971;ozbot;BBC News - IBM unveils computer fed by 'electronic blood' 353698;1382263135;mircea_popescu;pankkake you suck. 353699;1382264201;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2850 @ 0.00088917 = 2.5341 BTC [+] 353700;1382264262;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2650 @ 0.00089078 = 2.3606 BTC [+] {2} 353701;1382264445;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.7002 BTC [-] 353702;1382265299;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.70011 BTC [-] 353703;1382265690;virtuals;;;ticker 353704;1382265691;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 179.99000, Best ask: 180.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 180.00000, 24 hour volume: 38267.13817821, 24 hour low: 170.00000, 24 hour high: 193.00000, 24 hour vwap: 182.64321 353705;1382266031;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 500 @ 0.00114137 = 0.5707 BTC [-] {8} 353706;1382266275;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1379 @ 0.00089085 = 1.2285 BTC [+] 353707;1382266775;pankkake;http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-10-19/bitcoin-climbs-highest-april-led-chinese-actions 353708;1382266776;ozbot;Bitcoin Climbs To Highest Since April, Led By Chinese Actions | Zero Hedge 353709;1382266948;mircea_popescu;lol "highesrt since april" 353710;1382266952;mircea_popescu;cause well it was 270 in march 353711;1382267251;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3852 @ 0.00017997 = 0.6932 BTC [+] {2} 353712;1382267617;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2100 @ 0.00089085 = 1.8708 BTC [+] 353713;1382267739;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 14 @ 0.00768898 = 0.1076 BTC [+] 353714;1382268288;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00088788 = 3.1964 BTC [-] 353715;1382269325;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00088737 = 2.9283 BTC [-] {2} 353716;1382269874;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 921 @ 0.00089085 = 0.8205 BTC [+] 353717;1382269996;assbot;[MPEX] [S.NSA] 10000 @ 0.0001 = 1 BTC 353718;1382270057;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 800 @ 0.00089338 = 0.7147 BTC [+] 353719;1382270423;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69348300 BTC to 1`386`966 shares, 50 satoshi per share 353720;1382271948;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00088472 = 3.008 BTC [-] 353721;1382274318;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/traffic-as-a-proxy-for-interest/ 353722;1382274319;ozbot;Traffic as a proxy for interest pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 353723;1382274389;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5249 @ 0.00089342 = 4.6896 BTC [+] {2} 353724;1382274449;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1651 @ 0.00089392 = 1.4759 BTC [+] 353725;1382275303;assbot;[MPEX] [S.NSA] 35000 @ 0.0001 = 3.5 BTC 353726;1382275909;bitesak;has anyone successfully activated the 2FA with Bitcoin signature on coinbr? 353727;1382275948;pankkake;good call about China, this is very surprising. your blog would be hard to read to many chinese users too 353728;1382275989;mircea_popescu;bitesak best ping jurov about that. 353729;1382276014;mircea_popescu;pankkake i imagine so. it's still a mystery how many of them actually speak english *well enough* to grok wtf i'm on about, 353730;1382276025;bitesak;alright, thanks 353731;1382276026;mircea_popescu;as trilema isn't exactly written in beginner friendly english 353732;1382276237;pankkake;some articles are easy to understand. I understand the oral sex article after a google translate :) 353733;1382276245;mircea_popescu;so you think :) 353734;1382276279;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 6500 @ 0.00017942 = 1.1662 BTC [-] {4} 353735;1382276340;assbot;[MPEX] [O] [O.USD.C320N] 11 @ 0.27537297 = 3.0291 BTC [+] 353736;1382276344;mircea_popescu;http://media.oglaf.com/comic/sensibleshoes.jpg 353737;1382276353;mircea_popescu;if anyone forgot oglaf, the coolest chick on all the webs. 353738;1382276401;pankkake;her website is annoying to navigate 353739;1382276436;mircea_popescu;yeah 353740;1382277255;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1660 @ 0.0008903 = 1.4779 BTC [-] 353741;1382277770;mircea_popescu;http://media.oglaf.com/comic/bugfuck.jpg << provably fair odds. 353742;1382279634;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 105 @ 0.00700004 = 0.735 BTC [-] {2} 353743;1382280183;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 88 @ 0.00651899 = 0.5737 BTC [-] 353744;1382281258;skinnkavaj;http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinStocks/comments/1ou57v/cryptoave_investing_in_exchanges/ 353745;1382281457;pankkake;"Good developer. Have created 3 coins by himself which has got quite a lot of attention." lol 353746;1382281469;pankkake;changing a few values and creating a logo, skill! 353747;1382281470;mircea_popescu;herp. 353748;1382281498;mircea_popescu;here's a real good investment : yet another unknown making shit on the theory "website = busienss", "kid fresh out of school = developer" and so on. 353749;1382281791;skinnkavaj;pankkake: what are you investing in? 353750;1382281796;skinnkavaj;where do you put your money? 353751;1382281813;skinnkavaj;always so skeptical to things you dont know anything about, just open your mouth carelessly 353752;1382281845;pankkake;I'm putting my money in https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=303653.0 353753;1382281861;mircea_popescu;skinnkavaj nah, you're the carelessly dood. 353754;1382281874;mircea_popescu;pankkake pif le chien ? 353755;1382281878;skinnkavaj;LOL 353756;1382281885;skinnkavaj;you have a fund 353757;1382281886;skinnkavaj;rofl 353758;1382281887;pankkake;in all seriousness, I do not want to give investment advice 353759;1382281905;pankkake;mircea_popescu: hehe, I am surprised you know that. it also means "nose" 353760;1382281910;mircea_popescu;it does, yes. 353761;1382281927;pankkake;skinnkavaj: no, PIF is a joke 353762;1382281945;mircea_popescu;we had a joke with friends in the 90s, "pifometru", ie, pif-meter 353763;1382281957;pankkake;I am not claiming I am the greatest investor ever, as I am not. I did many mistakes especially at first 353764;1382281971;skinnkavaj;pankkake: You are gonna get so burned 353765;1382281981;skinnkavaj;Both cryptoave and LTC is going to go up in value 353766;1382281981;pankkake;the pifomètre, yes :) 353767;1382281987;skinnkavaj;i will come back in first of dec. 353768;1382281993;skinnkavaj;and say "i told you so" 353769;1382281994;skinnkavaj;in your face 353770;1382282035;pankkake;then bet on http://bitbet.us/bet/525/litecoin-to-fall-below-01-btc-before-2014/?ref=1Eck6cgGzEb9N42CFhcsCBQhZQStoJbHRK and take my money :) 353771;1382282048;skinnkavaj;No i rather invest direclty in LTC and CryptoAve 353772;1382282055;skinnkavaj;LTC is gonna turn around 353773;1382282072;pankkake;anyway, I have no idea if LTC will go up in value, what I know however is that it is now an useless altcoin 353774;1382282072;skinnkavaj;Do you realize how much exposure LTC has gotten from Piratebay? 353775;1382282074;skinnkavaj;Or wikileaks? 353776;1382282097;mircea_popescu;this should be bashed, but im kind of lazy. 353777;1382282104;skinnkavaj;Its faster than BTC thats why I love it, ofc there are other faster coins.. But none has the momentum that LTC have. 353778;1382282105;pankkake;both give more exposure to bitcoin anyway 353779;1382282121;mircea_popescu;"The past performance of PIF is stellar: by not investing in Labcon, IceDrool and InactiveMining, our investors still have 100% of their bitcoins." 353780;1382282126;mircea_popescu;are you keeping the list up to date ? 353781;1382282127;skinnkavaj;You can bash FTC all you want 353782;1382282130;skinnkavaj;The first copy always win 353783;1382282132;skinnkavaj;LTC is the first copy 353784;1382282139;pankkake;mircea_popescu: I'm not aware of any new stuff 353785;1382282143;skinnkavaj;and the Silver to Gold 353786;1382282146;pankkake;I guess there was PETA mine? 353787;1382282152;dexX7; LTC is gonna turn around < it will go around when bitcoin falls 353788;1382282154;skinnkavaj;Right now is the time you BUY all LTC on the market. 353789;1382282160;skinnkavaj;You dont wait. 353790;1382282161;mircea_popescu;pankkake i guess skinnkavaj's time is wasted here then ? 353791;1382282193;skinnkavaj;Ask wikileaks and piratebay why they use LTC 353792;1382282195;pankkake;silver to gold does not mean anything for digital tokens, they are both pure numbers 353793;1382282205;skinnkavaj;But its about physocologuy 353794;1382282207;skinnkavaj;and marketing 353795;1382282209;skinnkavaj;everything is about marketing 353796;1382282216;skinnkavaj;Why do you thing such crap that FTC has gotten attention? 353797;1382282226;pankkake;again, as stated in the forum, I used to hold ltc and use it. now I see nothing to do with it. it's Yet Another Altcoin 353798;1382282252;skinnkavaj;I am gonna come here and laugh so hard around first of december 353799;1382282287;pankkake;why? just because of its value? I'm not even discussing that here 353800;1382282294;Apocalyptic;skinnkavaj, why the compulsive need to convince people you're right ? 353801;1382282311;Apocalyptic;buy LTC and shut up about it 353802;1382282312;pankkake;Apocalyptic: https://xkcd.com/386/ 353803;1382282315;mircea_popescu;tbh i kinda like ltc myself. 353804;1382282320;skinnkavaj;Apocalyptic: Because pankkake is always opening his mouth about things he does not know anything about 353805;1382282325;mircea_popescu;of course, i kinda liked it before the curent crop of pushers was invented, 353806;1382282331;mircea_popescu;it'll be very useful should bitcoin croak. 353807;1382282331;Apocalyptic;heh pankkake 353808;1382282337;pankkake;mircea_popescu: you're a litecoin hipster then? 353809;1382282340;mircea_popescu;nope. 353810;1382282355;skinnkavaj;Nothing has changed LTC is still destined to go up in value.. Ask the freaks who sold BTC after first crash 353811;1382282355;mircea_popescu;im just old. which is why it's so funny to see random fuckwits that discovered the world in 2013 opining. 353812;1382282372;pankkake;I used to like litecoin as an "hedge" but I changed my mind: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=313331.msg3372691#msg3372691 353813;1382282379;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 13 @ 0.00948997 = 0.1234 BTC [+] {2} 353814;1382282410;skinnkavaj;Oh yeah Primecoin much better coin LOL.. What are those primes used for anyway? Lol 353815;1382282434;pankkake;skinnkavaj: for the love of Me I'm not advocating Primecoin 353816;1382282519;pankkake;I'm mining it and selling it all, and I can tell you it's overvalued - I think it is because people don't understand how to mine it 353817;1382282583;pankkake;skinnkavaj: you can also bet on http://bitbet.us/bet/524/litecoin-to-rise-above-04-btc-before-2014/?ref=1Eck6cgGzEb9N42CFhcsCBQhZQStoJbHRK 353818;1382282602;skinnkavaj;pankkake: I win more by investing the coins directly in LTC 353819;1382282603;skinnkavaj;So instead 353820;1382282609;skinnkavaj;im gonna come here and humiluate you 353821;1382282623;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1513 @ 0.00089051 = 1.3473 BTC [+] 353822;1382282639;pankkake;humiliate me about what, exactly? 353823;1382282669;pankkake;is litecoin going to be less 51% attackable? is it going to be used elsewhere than in btc/ltc exchanges? 353824;1382282671;mircea_popescu;http://media.oglaf.com/comic/delusionist_1.jpg 353825;1382282675;mircea_popescu;something like that. 353826;1382282715;pankkake;then the guy found a job at Apple 353827;1382282758;mircea_popescu;hahaha 353828;1382282764;assbot;Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1423525/plain/) 353829;1382282764;mircea_popescu;!b 4 353830;1382283097;dexX7;https://forum.litecoin.net/index.php/topic,6460.msg0.html btct copy coming 353831;1382283098;ozbot;[ANN] [LITECOININVEST] New litecoin investment platform. www.litecoininvest.com 353832;1382283100;mircea_popescu;how's litecoin related to silkroad anyway ? wasn't that the bitcoin pill space ? 353833;1382283105;pankkake;http://ltc.block-explorer.com/charts litecoin difficulty is stagnant 353834;1382283106;ozbot;Litecoin Charts - Litecoin Cryptocurrency Blockchain Explorer 353835;1382283111;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.71062 = 3.5531 BTC [+] {3} 353836;1382283113;mircea_popescu;dexX7 amusingly enough, btct was actually a ltc exchange 353837;1382283121;dexX7;i know that 353838;1382283126;mircea_popescu;before the guy saw nefario bite a girder and figured hey, i can bite girders just as well 353839;1382283127;mircea_popescu;a ok 353840;1382283132;pankkake;Atlantis (closed) used to be a litecoin silk road (though they eventually accepted Bitcoin) 353841;1382283133;dexX7;but i assumed people are more familiar with btct ;) 353842;1382283161;mircea_popescu;pankkake yeah, that. i don't recall why/how it closed 353843;1382283175;pankkake;the why is unknown 353844;1382283185;pankkake;few weeks before silk road 353845;1382283236;mircea_popescu;ya 353846;1382283244;mircea_popescu;perhaps not getting the attention it should. 353847;1382283354;pankkake;I irloled at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=313872.msg3374203#msg3374203 first quote 353848;1382283434;mircea_popescu;lol seh's evil 353849;1382284124;mircea_popescu;so five years ago a 17 year old girl with 34DD tits (truely glorious tits too!) 353850;1382284133;mircea_popescu;decided to get breast reduction, so she can play tennis better. 353851;1382284151;mircea_popescu;she just won the moscow tournament. 353852;1382284166;mircea_popescu;and is now #14 worldwide. 353853;1382284206;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/simona_halep.jpg those were teh tits. 353854;1382284235;pankkake;RIP 353855;1382285175;nubbins`;hi 353856;1382285229;Scrat;hi 353857;1382285231;Scrat;;;echo hi 353858;1382285232;gribble;hi 353859;1382285283;pankkake;;;echo hi $randomNick 353860;1382285284;gribble;hi arij 353861;1382285297;mircea_popescu;o noway 353862;1382285306;pankkake;not as fun as /kick $randomNick 353863;1382285309;mircea_popescu;$echo /kick $randomnick 353864;1382285315;mircea_popescu;heh literally. 353865;1382285319;mircea_popescu;;;echo /kick $randomnick 353866;1382285319;gribble;/kick taub 353867;1382285326;mircea_popescu;nanotube ^ ? 353868;1382285337;nubbins`;heh 353869;1382285339;pankkake;I knew a bot that had a russian roulette, either you got banned or oped 353870;1382285345;nubbins`;smartypants bot escapes /! 353871;1382285345;mircea_popescu;;;roulette 353872;1382285346;gribble;*BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?! 353873;1382285355;Scrat;pankkake: fucking genius 353874;1382285376;Scrat;assbot needs to support this asap 353875;1382285376;Scrat;make it voice or kickban 353876;1382285393;pankkake;timed ban then 353877;1382285399;KRS1;big tits sucks..they get teh sweat and lint underneath them. 353878;1382285400;pankkake;I wouldn't play for a voice 353879;1382285413;nubbins`;KRS1: we call it UBS 353880;1382285414;KRS1;good god too big. 353881;1382285420;KRS1;UBS? 353882;1382285428;nubbins`;under-boob sweat 353883;1382285431;KRS1;hah 353884;1382285431;dexX7;;;roulette 353885;1382285431;gribble;*click* 353886;1382285440;dexX7;;;roll 353887;1382285440;gribble;Error: "roll" is not a valid command. 353888;1382285443;nubbins`;it's like bag sweat, but for women 353889;1382285487;KRS1;wretched...give me a big overflowing B cup anyday..a little more than a handful..pref. eastern european. 353890;1382285513;mircea_popescu;KRS1 we had this conversation before. SOME WOMEN WASH 353891;1382285563;nubbins`;well ya know. some men wash their dicks 353892;1382285566;nubbins`;some don't 353893;1382285691;mircea_popescu;lol 353894;1382285725;nubbins`;how do you know -otc is filled with children, despite having never met them? 353895;1382285736;nubbins`;through deduction, that's how! 353896;1382285759;abracadabra;uhm... -otc is filled with children? 353897;1382285764;abracadabra;<.< 353898;1382285765;abracadabra;>.> 353899;1382285778;nubbins`;what, you thought there were adults in there? :( 353900;1382285796;nubbins`;"selling 0.001 BTC for sgjewgld!" etc 353901;1382285816;mircea_popescu;why do you disparage skinnkavaj so ? 353902;1382285830;pankkake;what's sgjewgld? singapor jewish gold? 353903;1382285834;pankkake;or some kind of pokemon? 353904;1382285842;dexX7;lol 353905;1382285853;nubbins`;pankkake: it's all bizarre acronyms, figured i could slip that one under the radar 353906;1382285908;pankkake;http://i.imgur.com/iZt7wjw.png 353907;1382285944;nubbins`;:0 353908;1382286007;pankkake;you'd think jews would learn and buy bitcoins after WW2 353909;1382286519;mircea_popescu;Namworld hey, you got a pricelist somewhere ? what can you do for a decent quad ? 353910;1382286870;mircea_popescu;pankkake https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=277241.msg3374571#msg3374571 353911;1382286876;mircea_popescu;she's way ahead of you you know :D 353912;1382286975;arij; hi arij 353913;1382286979;arij;hi 353914;1382287442;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2877 @ 0.00089093 = 2.5632 BTC [+] {2} 353915;1382287503;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 573 @ 0.00088842 = 0.5091 BTC [-] 353916;1382287587;nanotube;roulette won't work unless gribble has ops. 353917;1382287609;mircea_popescu;but does the echo tjhing work ? 353918;1382287705;pankkake;it doesn't need to be escaped actually, you don't kick by sending /kick as a message to a channel 353919;1382287782;mircea_popescu;on my system i do... 353920;1382287801;dexX7;that's just what your client makes you believe, if i'm not mistaken 353921;1382287816;pankkake;yes but the client catches it; it doesn't send privmsg #channel /kick, it sends kick #channel nick (or something) 353922;1382287842;nanotube;mircea_popescu: echo $randomnick, sure it works. didn't you just see it work? 353923;1382287864;mircea_popescu;the kicking i mean 353924;1382287876;mircea_popescu;lessseee 353925;1382287888;mircea_popescu;;;echo /msg chanserv kick #bitcoin-otc $randomnick 353926;1382287889;gribble;/msg chanserv kick #bitcoin-otc Namworld 353927;1382287894;mircea_popescu;hum 353928;1382288050;nanotube;ah that, well gribble is too smart to let random people make it kick others :) 353929;1382288060;pankkake;the / is purely client side 353930;1382288085;nanotube;also yes, the / stuff is just a command you use to tell your client to send the actual messages. 353931;1382288094;pankkake;however on some networks you can make it say !kick and the chanserv bots interpret it 353932;1382288110;nanotube;pankkake: sure, i could tell gribble to kick anyone. because gribble knows me. :P 353933;1382288127;mircea_popescu;til. 353934;1382288143;nanotube;/msg chanserv blabla gets translated into PRIVMSG chanserv :blabla 353935;1382288239;pankkake;sometimes you can also get two bots to get in an enless loop with their echoes 353936;1382288269;mircea_popescu;that's not hard to do. 353937;1382288275;nanotube;depending on bot settings, yea :) 353938;1382288290;mircea_popescu;;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo 353939;1382288290;mircea_popescu;$echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo win 353940;1382288291;gribble;$echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo ;;echo $echo (1 more message) 353941;1382288296;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00088842 = 3.1983 BTC [-] 353942;1382288308;pankkake;no :) 353943;1382288318;mircea_popescu;would have worked better if mpexbot had echo implemented 353944;1382288362;nanotube;heh 353945;1382288391;pankkake;http://headfucking.net/lol.html 353946;1382288391;nanotube;that's not quite an 'endless' loop though. 353947;1382288391;ozbot;echo http://headfucking.net/lol.html 353948;1382288414;pankkake;removing the ;;? :/ 353949;1382288415;Scrat;amazing amazing amazing amazing amazing assbot 353950;1382288415;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 353951;1382288443;Scrat;multiple lines fixed? 353952;1382288540;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.759 BTC [+] 353953;1382288820;pankkake;http://headfucking.net/lol.html 353954;1382288821;ozbot;;;echo http://headfucking.net/lol.html 353955;1382288821;gribble;http://headfucking.net/lol.html 353956;1382288822;ozbot;;;echo http://headfucking.net/lol.html 353957;1382288822;gribble;http://headfucking.net/lol.html 353958;1382288822;ozbot;;;echo http://headfucking.net/lol.html 353959;1382288823;gribble;http://headfucking.net/lol.html 353960;1382288823;ozbot;;;echo http://headfucking.net/lol.html 353961;1382288823;gribble;http://headfucking.net/lol.html 353962;1382288824;ozbot;;;echo http://headfucking.net/lol.html 353963;1382288824;pankkake;YES 353964;1382288824;gribble;http://headfucking.net/lol.html 353965;1382288825;ozbot;;;echo http://headfucking.net/lol.html 353966;1382288825;gribble;http://headfucking.net/lol.html 353967;1382288826;ozbot;;;echo http://headfucking.net/lol.html 353968;1382288826;gribble;http://headfucking.net/lol.html 353969;1382288826;ozbot;;;echo http://headfucking.net/lol.html 353970;1382288826;gribble;http://headfucking.net/lol.html 353971;1382288827;ozbot;;;echo http://headfucking.net/lol.html 353972;1382288827;gribble;http://headfucking.net/lol.html 353973;1382288828;ozbot;;;echo http://headfucking.net/lol.html 353974;1382288828;gribble;http://headfucking.net/lol.html 353975;1382288828;ozbot;;;echo http://headfucking.net/lol.html 353976;1382288829;gribble;http://headfucking.net/lol.html 353977;1382288829;ozbot;;;echo http://headfucking.net/lol.html 353978;1382288829;gribble;http://headfucking.net/lol.html 353979;1382288830;ozbot;;;echo http://headfucking.net/lol.html 353980;1382288830;gribble;You've given me 12 commands within the last minute; I'm now ignoring you for 5 minutes. 353981;1382288830;pankkake;sorry 353982;1382288833;pankkake;:) 353983;1382288846;pankkake;the trick was to use ; instead of ; in 353984;1382288897;dexX7;;; echo test 353985;1382288897;gribble;Error: "#59;;" is not a valid command. 353986;1382288918;dexX7;ah lol 353987;1382288919;dexX7;i see 353988;1382288924;dexX7;neat :) 353989;1382288944;pankkake;but the banning of ;; should occur after decoding the html entities, so there's something weird going on 353990;1382289016;dexX7;yup 353991;1382289463;nanotube;heh 353992;1382289699;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 0.07979999 = 0.2394 BTC [+] 353993;1382289955;nubbins`;funny thing about the word "should" :D 353994;1382290004;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 7 @ 0.07979999 = 0.5586 BTC [+] 353995;1382290053;nubbins`;funny thing about HIM having a market cap of 0.5M too 353996;1382290059;mircea_popescu;kay so s.nsa ipo is closed. total authorised shares 4`737`075. i'll make a post about it tomorrow for recordkeeping. 353997;1382290087;nubbins`;congrats 353998;1382290514;mircea_popescu;yee 353999;1382290716;pizzaman1337;aw darn, I missed the IPO 354000;1382290724;Kleeck_;what ipo? 354001;1382290729;pizzaman1337;http://mpex.co/?mpsic=S.NSA 354002;1382290732;Kleeck_;oh. 354003;1382290825;mircea_popescu;it was on for like five days... 354004;1382290842;pizzaman1337;yeah :P I've been out of the loop 354005;1382290847;pizzaman1337;it's all good 354006;1382290980;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.144 BTC [+] 354007;1382291529;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.71045 = 14.209 BTC [-] {2} 354008;1382291895;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 5000 @ 0.00247553 = 12.3777 BTC [+] {9} 354009;1382291956;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 244 @ 0.00247245 = 0.6033 BTC [-] {2} 354010;1382292200;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00088727 = 0.8873 BTC [-] {2} 354011;1382293176;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.76 = 5.32 BTC [+] 354012;1382294396;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.00719 = 0.1798 BTC [-] 354013;1382294518;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.76233333 = 2.287 BTC [+] {2} 354014;1382294579;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 35 @ 0.78799987 = 27.58 BTC [+] {2} 354015;1382294701;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2940 @ 0.00088913 = 2.614 BTC [+] 354016;1382294762;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.36500001 = 0.73 BTC [-] {2} 354017;1382294763;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00088837 = 2.8428 BTC [-] {2} 354018;1382294823;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.36500001 BTC [-] 354019;1382295067;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 34 @ 0.007212 = 0.2452 BTC [+] 354020;1382295205;FabianB;$avg 354021;1382295206;mpexbot;FabianB: 171.52 354022;1382295231;KRS1;Either one..boob sweat and all. http://www.skinzwearphotography.com/prodImages/Womens-sexy-g-string-swim-suit-side-tie-B34-T34-9820-by-SKINZ.jpg 354023;1382295676;pankkake;yeah, she doesn't risk having lint with that outfit 354024;1382295860;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.787999 BTC [-] 354025;1382296456;KRS1;with this steady avg market price could we be due for a correction 354026;1382296475;KRS1;prob just teh weekend maybe 354027;1382296547;pankkake;"full disclosure, my 13yr old kid mines a little litecoin on his game computer when not playing games" 354028;1382296592;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 15 @ 0.00720001 = 0.108 BTC [-] 354029;1382296714;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 35 @ 0.0072 = 0.252 BTC [-] 354030;1382296761;KRS1;haha have we come to thaty 354031;1382296769;KRS1;*that 354032;1382296775;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.00719 = 0.1798 BTC [-] 354033;1382296958;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.777 = 3.885 BTC [-] 354034;1382297019;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00089339 = 2.5908 BTC [+] 354035;1382297629;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.36600001 BTC [+] 354036;1382297630;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 21 @ 0.00749 = 0.1573 BTC [+] 354037;1382297873;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00089339 = 1.9655 BTC [+] 354038;1382297934;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 85 @ 0.00119 = 0.1012 BTC [-] 354039;1382297935;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 23 @ 0.00749 = 0.1723 BTC [+] 354040;1382297988;jurov;;;later tell bitesak "if i'm not around pls email to support at coinbr" 354041;1382297989;gribble;The operation succeeded. 354042;1382298019;virtuals;;;ticker 354043;1382298019;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 183.00003, Best ask: 183.98992, Bid-ask spread: 0.98989, Last trade: 183.99995, 24 hour volume: 11528.30232733, 24 hour low: 175.10000, 24 hour high: 185.94300, 24 hour vwap: 181.72110 354044;1382298278;jurov;;;bc,stats 354045;1382298281;gribble;Current Blocks: 264930 | Current Difficulty: 2.677312494824211E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 266111 | Next Difficulty In: 1181 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 8 hours, 50 minutes, and 10 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 361104751.483 | Estimated Percent Change: 34.87583 354046;1382298300;jurov;hrm 354047;1382298422;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 97 @ 0.001185 = 0.1149 BTC [-] 354048;1382298605;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.36600001 BTC [+] 354049;1382300679;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.777 = 1.554 BTC [-] 354050;1382300696;dexX7;skinnkavaj: you should realize that litecoin goes down, when bitcoin goes up and vice versa. stop shilling in other channels. 354051;1382300746;skinnkavaj;dexX7: Thats my i am buying as many LTC as I can right now 354052;1382300759;blastbob;i was considering some LTC also 354053;1382300768;blastbob;cant decide 354054;1382300788;dexX7;to hedge or are you calling btc's top already? 354055;1382300801;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.78799899 BTC [+] 354056;1382300829;blastbob;btc has much more to go 354057;1382300838;blastbob;POS systems getting mainstream 354058;1382300866;dexX7;then buy bitcoin instead of litecoin 354059;1382300900;blastbob;Only have bitcoin 354060;1382300905;blastbob;:P 354061;1382300961;dexX7;:) 354062;1382301466;nubbins`;odd lack of "hold, spartans!!!" memes on /r/bitcoin this time around 354063;1382301546;skinnkavaj;nubbins`: That comes when price goes down 354064;1382301554;nubbins`;oh shit right 354065;1382301592;nubbins`;honestly not sure what would possess one to buy at $180+ 354066;1382301716;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00089349 = 4.9142 BTC [+] 354067;1382301838;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.78799899 = 1.576 BTC [+] 354068;1382301899;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1145 @ 0.00089339 = 1.0229 BTC [-] 354069;1382302069;jurov;possessed by bitcoin fever 354070;1382302390;pankkake;I guess litecoin is the new "cheap shares" 354071;1382303302;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2913 @ 0.00088812 = 2.5871 BTC [-] {2} 354072;1382305437;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 70 @ 0.00273998 = 0.1918 BTC [-] 354073;1382306962;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 250 @ 0.00117 = 0.2925 BTC [-] 354074;1382307084;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.40979999 BTC [+] 354075;1382307335;mircea_popescu;o hey guise! remember 354076;1382307335;mircea_popescu;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=176077 354077;1382307337;ozbot;Ripple or Bitcoin 354078;1382307357;dexX7;what is this? necro hour? 354079;1382307376;mircea_popescu;dude im just totally bummed out that bitcoin lost 354080;1382307381;dexX7;digging out the old am comparison.. shame on you 354081;1382307393;mircea_popescu;because all of the people who said ripple rocks on a forum 354082;1382307398;mircea_popescu;hm ? 354083;1382307420;dexX7;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=151265.msg3376435#msg3376435 354084;1382307421;ozbot;Furthering the S.DICE / AM comparison 354085;1382307480;mircea_popescu;awww hahaha 354086;1382307483;mircea_popescu;i didn't do that lol. 354087;1382307511;dexX7;haha yea, but maybe you instructed her ;) 354088;1382307580;mircea_popescu;sometimes i do but not this time 354089;1382307584;mircea_popescu;was a good chuckle anyway. 354090;1382307599;mircea_popescu;(the oglaf comic was per my instructions for instance hehe) 354091;1382307635;dexX7;the one with the ship and lack of real knowledge was awesome 354092;1382307713;mircea_popescu;yeah that one. 354093;1382307758;Diablo-D3;man 354094;1382307765;Diablo-D3;is icebreaker a scammer? 354095;1382307791;dexX7;i don't think so? 354096;1382307815;dexX7;or let's say never heard anything bad about him besides trolling 354097;1382307833;Diablo-D3;well 354098;1382307838;Diablo-D3;hes threatening to "report me" 354099;1382307845;Diablo-D3;for not paying out money from btcmc 354100;1382307872;Diablo-D3;even though Ive repeatedly explained to him that yochdog has not paid out anything nor has anyone purchased the btcmc debt from me 354101;1382307885;dexX7;report you at the bitcoin police? 354102;1382307893;Diablo-D3;who knows 354103;1382307964;Diablo-D3;dexX7: I mean, Im shutting DMC down because the SEC has finally outlawed bitcoin companies 354104;1382307970;Diablo-D3;what more does he want from me 354105;1382308023;dexX7;wasn't there already drama about keeping the am shares? 354106;1382308075;Diablo-D3;dexX7: yeah, until people realized Im still trading those out 354107;1382308088;Diablo-D3;then they all pulled their panties out of their twats 354108;1382308613;pankkake;Diablo-D3: well, grow some balls and become an outlaw 354109;1382308853;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 23 @ 0.00749 = 0.1723 BTC [+] 354110;1382311659;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 15 @ 0.00749 = 0.1124 BTC [+] 354111;1382311847;mircea_popescu;;;ticker 354112;1382311847;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 184.50082, Best ask: 184.73998, Bid-ask spread: 0.23916, Last trade: 184.74000, 24 hour volume: 11282.63857969, 24 hour low: 177.25000, 24 hour high: 186.12000, 24 hour vwap: 182.83954 354113;1382311847;assbot;123! 354114;1382312497;MTBmanTT;yawn 354115;1382312902;skinnkavaj;Lol 354116;1382312904;skinnkavaj;pankkake 354117;1382312910;skinnkavaj;Making fun of himself in a Litecoin is dead thread 354118;1382312919;skinnkavaj;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=314238.60 354119;1382312921;ozbot;litecoin dead ? 354120;1382312944;pankkake;ozbot: yes 354121;1382313078;skinnkavaj;ozbot: Lol. Look at all altcoins, litecoin is the number 1 in acceptance overall. Piratebay and Wikileaks use it. Founder of it works in Coinbase. Mtgox is around the corner. It's the first scrypt coin with no premine (NVC). It has the marketing effect "Silver to Gold". 354122;1382313090;pankkake;ozbot is a bot :/ 354123;1382313111;skinnkavaj;Who cares 354124;1382313114;nubbins`;hahaha 354125;1382313116;assbot;Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1423924/plain/) 354126;1382313116;mircea_popescu;!b 4 354127;1382313120;nubbins`;http://www.google.ca 354128;1382313120;ozbot;Google 354129;1382313121;pankkake;did you buy litecoins earlier, or are just buying now? 354130;1382313133;pankkake;I hope for you it's the latter 354131;1382313169;pigeons;its not the first scrypt coin with no premine, that was fairbrix, and coblee started litecoin cause fairbrix got 51%ed too many times 354132;1382313194;skinnkavaj;pigeons: Yes and it survived and is the second biggest network on the internet 354133;1382313220;skinnkavaj;If there is any altcoin that is going to succeed, it is LTC 354134;1382313224;pigeons;add an adjective to second bigges ___ network on the internet 354135;1382313239;pigeons;just tryin to keep it real 354136;1382313244;nubbins`;second biggest goddamn network? 354137;1382313250;pankkake;"If there is any altcoin that is going to succeed, it is LTC" this is endlessly repeated with no basis at all 354138;1382313268;pigeons;second biggest hashcash network on the internet 354139;1382313277;skinnkavaj;pankkake: No its based on that it has the most acceptance and the best marketing phrase of all. 354140;1382313291;nubbins`;best marketing phrase! 354141;1382313299;skinnkavaj;Sell me XPM 354142;1382313299;pigeons;litecoin is the new black 354143;1382313303;skinnkavaj;Its enviroement friendly 354144;1382313308;skinnkavaj;Hahahha 354145;1382313311;skinnkavaj;Sell me LTC 354146;1382313313;skinnkavaj;its SILVER 354147;1382313317;pankkake;well, be *very* careful with that silver to gold. when silver got demonetized, it lost a lot of its value 354148;1382313336;pankkake;kinda like my point of litecoin being just another altcoin ;) 354149;1382313355;skinnkavaj;I don't even understand your point 354150;1382313358;skinnkavaj;It is based on NOTHING 354151;1382313367;pigeons;just like litecoin 354152;1382313402;skinnkavaj;Think of BTC like Coca Cola and think of LTC like Pepsi 354153;1382313419;nubbins`;i don't like soft drinks 354154;1382313421;asciilifeform;more of an Inca Cola. 354155;1382313427;pankkake;but it isn't, both are digital tokens 354156;1382313428;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 85 @ 0.00708235 = 0.602 BTC [-] {3} 354157;1382313449;nubbins`;asciilifeform: ltc is popular in peru? 354158;1382313469;pankkake;coming back to silver and gold: both were used as monetary backing, but silver lost that privilege; silver lost a lot of value 354159;1382313516;asciilifeform;nubbins`: incacola is a cheapo soda sold in the u.s. 354160;1382313527;skinnkavaj;Yeah I bet silver lost in USD value in the long run 354161;1382313535;skinnkavaj;So retarded 354162;1382313537;nubbins`;asciilifeform: its also the national drink of peru 354163;1382313544;nubbins`;not really. but it's EVERYWHERE 354164;1382313554;pankkake;still, there are reasons for these metals to be sold because of their industrial use; while digital tokens are digital tokens 354165;1382313576;skinnkavaj;pankkake: Do you believe any altcoin is going to succeed? 354166;1382313589;skinnkavaj;Yes or No 354167;1382313593;pankkake;probably not 354168;1382313600;skinnkavaj;Lol 354169;1382313603;skinnkavaj;I am out 354170;1382313614;pankkake;it would have to be something truly unfixable in Bitcoin 354171;1382313624;pankkake;or a wholly different codebase at least 354172;1382313750;pankkake;I do follow some altcoin development - even donated to some ;) 354173;1382313867;mircea_popescu;<pigeons> its not the first scrypt coin with no premine, that was fairbrix, and coblee started litecoin cause fairbrix got 51%ed too many times << few know this 354174;1382313891;pankkake;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=315182.0 lol 354175;1382313892;ozbot;i'd like to buy some Hashing power hashing for FTC 354176;1382313914;mircea_popescu;lol @best marketing phrase. what is it, litecoin makes your tits float ? 354177;1382313916;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 220 @ 0.00055445 = 0.122 BTC [+] {4} 354178;1382313921;pankkake;I'd like to start a 51% attack pool. the only goal is to destroy 354179;1382313933;pankkake;"silver to gold" 354180;1382313967;mircea_popescu;eh forget it. ltc is not to blame that it attracts idiots. 354181;1382313972;mircea_popescu;so does (did ?) btc. 354182;1382313978;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.76 = 3.04 BTC [-] 354183;1382314012;pankkake;my reservations are mostly technical 354184;1382314020;mircea_popescu;is there any hax in here to see ltc diff ? 354185;1382314053;mircea_popescu;pankkake Luke-Jr became famous through doing the same thing coupla years ago. or trying... i don't recall if he succeeded. 354186;1382314083;pankkake;by subverting his pool power so I heard 354187;1382314092;pankkake;but I wouldn't do that 354188;1382314127;pankkake;http://ltc.block-explorer.com/charts has nice stats 354189;1382314128;ozbot;Litecoin Charts - Litecoin Cryptocurrency Blockchain Explorer 354190;1382314173;mircea_popescu;difficulty 1k ?! are you fucking with me ? 354191;1382314188;mircea_popescu;so it'd cost me what, 0.1 btc/hour to maintain a 51% attack on ltc indefinitely ? 354192;1382314191;pankkake;it's scrypt, I guess values aren't comparable 354193;1382314211;mircea_popescu;orly. 354194;1382314247;pankkake;I tried to guess the cost, estimated litecoin's power to 38124 Radeon 7970 354195;1382314328;mircea_popescu;what, nobody cared to make fpgas yet ?! 354196;1382314422;dexX7;mp, lurk more 354197;1382314432;pankkake;so that should be an investment of 17 155 800 USD is behind the network ($450 per card for counting the other components) 354198;1382314452;pankkake;and thus you need half of that to attack it 354199;1382314463;pankkake;or rent it, obviously 354200;1382314504;mircea_popescu;dexX7 i've not been paying much attention to ltc since prolly 2012 354201;1382314535;mircea_popescu;anyway, the notion that 1k diff is worth 10mn in gear is ludicrous. 354202;1382314557;mircea_popescu;now i understand whty all the noob fury for pushing ltc : it allows them to live the illusion that their worthless gear is to be counted at 450 a board. 354203;1382314587;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 1302 @ 0.00077447 = 1.0084 BTC [+] {6} 354204;1382314590;mircea_popescu;;;calc 17 * 300000 354205;1382314591;nubbins`;what, you mean there isn't an insatiable demand for used gfx cards that have been melting themselves mining btc for the past few years? 354206;1382314591;gribble;5100000 354207;1382314601;nubbins`;it's almost like it's a solution in search of a problem 354208;1382314601;mircea_popescu;there, bitcoin mining gear is worth 5bn nao >D 354209;1382314610;VanCleef;mining is a scam 354210;1382314615;VanCleef;stop buying into it 354211;1382314658;Luke-Jr;pankkake: mircea_popescu is a troll; my pool was not involved 354212;1382314662;mircea_popescu;by the same rationale, a good pricing for the radeons would be 50 cents a piece. 354213;1382314673;pankkake;Luke-Jr: well the rumor is there! 354214;1382314682;mircea_popescu;Luke-Jr srsly ? 354215;1382314721;Luke-Jr;srsly. 354216;1382314730;pankkake;but if you create a pool to destroy altcoins I'd mine on it… if I actually had anything capable of :) 354217;1382314730;Luke-Jr;it was just lolnohashes 354218;1382314757;Luke-Jr;pankkake: waste of my time 354219;1382314767;Luke-Jr;pankkake: the hope with that one instance was that it'd deter the scammers 354220;1382314773;pankkake;well, some people just like to watch the world burn 354221;1382314773;mircea_popescu;hm. 354222;1382314795;mircea_popescu;well i guess more research is needed here. i can't readily point to proof. 354223;1382314812;MTBmanTT;I just dont understand the "push" with ltc- being a n00b to this world, ive never heard of it until the BTC forums. 354224;1382314826;Luke-Jr;MTBmanTT: it's a popular scam because it hasn't broken yet 354225;1382314832;mircea_popescu;MTBmanTT basically it makes sense on some level to have a reserve implementation. 354226;1382314847;Luke-Jr;mircea_popescu: there's no reserve implementation in litecoin, it's just a dumb clone 354227;1382314856;mircea_popescu;obviously idiots flock there just like they flock to btc. ltc has the disadvantage that it gets all the idiots that got broken uin btc, too 354228;1382314857;MTBmanTT;ah, I just figured it was there to make GPUs feel useful again, to in turn exchange for btc..... but that sounds more reasonable 354229;1382314861;Luke-Jr;if SHA256d breaks, it does too since it uses it for everything but the POW 354230;1382314865;mircea_popescu;goat being a fine example. 354231;1382314876;pankkake;mircea_popescu: yes, while I used to think that, litecoin isn't a different implementation 354232;1382314887;mircea_popescu;Luke-Jr depends how hardcore do yo uwant to get. one could say bitcoin isn't really a bitcoin either, just a dumb prototype. 354233;1382314896;mircea_popescu;the idea is it may be made to work if need be. 354234;1382314906;nubbins`;i thought btc was a prototype for mastercoin 354235;1382314910;nubbins`;*cough* 354236;1382314914;pankkake;:D 354237;1382314950;Luke-Jr;nubbins`: if you want to argue that, use freicoin as an example :p 354238;1382314961;Luke-Jr;they seem to be clueful 354239;1382314974;mircea_popescu;is that the demurage thing ? 354240;1382315003;Luke-Jr;yeah, and a bunch of other stuff 354241;1382315034;mircea_popescu;while it's a good idea to try it so it's trioed, im convinced demurage is a bad idea. 354242;1382315046;dexX7;mircea_popescu: i just wanted to exploit this rare situation of "lecturing you" :) scrypt is designed in a way that the bottleneck is rather the amount of fast accessible memory than computational speed and people say "litecoin is fpga/asic resistant" for that reason 354243;1382315087;mircea_popescu;dexX7 people say many things. meanwhile, 16gb boards aren't too expensive 354244;1382315111;Luke-Jr;mircea_popescu: yeah, I think inflation works better 354245;1382315120;mircea_popescu;inflation MIGHT work better. 354246;1382315129;Luke-Jr;dexX7: normal scrypt is; litecoin's variant is not 354247;1382315148;Luke-Jr;dexX7: and scrypt requires just as much memory to verify as to search, so it's not a proof-of-work 354248;1382315151;mircea_popescu;i have no idea. perhap a coin without the reward halving would win out on that score. 354249;1382315168;dexX7;ah okay, i'm not familiar with the underlying details 354250;1382315185;Luke-Jr;the BitShares guys came up with an actual memory-hard PoW algorithm, though I'm not convinced if it's solid or not yet 354251;1382315285;mircea_popescu;that the coindesk thing ? 354252;1382315317;pankkake;Yacoin (yes, Yet Another Altcoin) has a memory-intensive scrypt 354253;1382315336;asciilifeform;everybody knows that you can get FPGA+sdram socket boards for pocket change, right? 354254;1382315338;pankkake;and the memory requirements go up 354255;1382315350;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform apparently not. 354256;1382315369;Luke-Jr;pankkake: to verify as well 354257;1382315395;MTBmanTT;ok, this maybe really dumb and for that I'm sorry- but what is the point to all these other alt currencies? hopes that it becomes the next, or second bitcoin? 354258;1382315396;Luke-Jr;asciilifeform: the goal of memoryhard is that it the SDRAM would perform equally well with any host 354259;1382315403;mircea_popescu;Luke-Jr since you mention them, do you also know the drama re charles guy quitting invictus ? 354260;1382315406;Luke-Jr;MTBmanTT: to scam people into paying for them 354261;1382315422;Luke-Jr;MTBmanTT: convince a loser it's going to succeed, and that he'll make big bucks by buying early 354262;1382315430;mircea_popescu;MTBmanTT the inca cola example controls. they're there just in case you run out of coke somehow. 354263;1382315439;Luke-Jr;mircea_popescu: no, I didn't even hear of that 354264;1382315444;asciilifeform;Luke-Jr: sdram plus fpga which does nothing but sCrypt, vs. a general-purpose pc? 354265;1382315463;Luke-Jr;asciilifeform: well, I never said scrypt is a good algo :p 354266;1382315471;MTBmanTT;ty 354267;1382315472;mircea_popescu;all this delicious drama going to waste unknown. no wonder the alt coins aren't going anywhere. 354268;1382315489;Luke-Jr;asciilifeform: just that's the goal of a memoryhard algo 354269;1382315501;mircea_popescu;it's a fucking naive goal it's what it is. but anyway. 354270;1382315509;asciilifeform;1st fellow to bake an altcoin that's actually interesting will win (something.) 354271;1382315514;mircea_popescu;memory is tghe cheapest thing you can do on silicon 354272;1382315540;MTBmanTT;+1 354273;1382315558;asciilifeform;smart money's on 'slavecoin.' 354274;1382315571;mircea_popescu;<asciilifeform> 1st fellow to bake an altcoin that's actually interesting will win (something.) << he'll win my attention, for sure. 354275;1382315580;Luke-Jr;mircea_popescu: before SHA256d ASICs, it would have been a worthwhile goa.l 354276;1382315582;Luke-Jr;goal* 354277;1382315604;Luke-Jr;mircea_popescu: that's why 354278;1382315611;pankkake;mircea_popescu: did you look at ppcoin? 354279;1382315613;mircea_popescu;Luke-Jr yes, but only in the naive perspective. "oh, maybe things never happen". memory still was the cheapest use of silicon even before the sha256d was actually implemented. 354280;1382315617;asciilifeform;here's an idea: generalize the altcoin concept and bake a turing-complete workfunction spec right into the protocol. 354281;1382315632;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform go away haskelite. 354282;1382315642;Luke-Jr;pankkake: the altcoin that never accomplished decentralisation 354283;1382315679;asciilifeform;laughing? it would instantly let you convert, say, btc, into arbitrary parallel computations 354284;1382315694;pankkake;the checkpoints are a thing of the past, though I'd like some serious auditing of proof of stake 354285;1382315723;asciilifeform;say i want a certain hash bruted, and i say 'trade ya 100btc for 10000 hash-X-crack-coin.' 354286;1382315740;mircea_popescu;do you have any idea how hard this'd be to implement ? 354287;1382315756;asciilifeform;not really hard at all 354288;1382315766;nubbins`;lel 354289;1382315783;asciilifeform;just bake a Forth of sorts in there 354290;1382315793;asciilifeform;sorta how the original btc protocol wanted to 354291;1382315799;mircea_popescu;will the protocol support recursion in the workfunction ? 354292;1382315822;asciilifeform;sure, with a field for memory constraint, why not. 354293;1382315831;mircea_popescu;so can i implement a miner in the proof of work ? 354294;1382315851;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: already fun! 354295;1382315859;asciilifeform;metacoin... 354296;1382315862;nubbins`;ha 354297;1382315865;asciilifeform;built-in mining future 354298;1382315866;mircea_popescu;and then if it forks what do you do ? 354299;1382315878;mircea_popescu;go back in time ? 354300;1382315883;nubbins`;call it non-deterministic 354301;1382315887;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: that'd be just a special case of altcoin, no? 354302;1382315888;nubbins`;fuck quantum computing 354303;1382315892;mircea_popescu;km 354304;1382315892;nubbins`;coin computing is the future 354305;1382315894;mircea_popescu;lmao 354306;1382315912;nubbins`;imagine! 354307;1382315914;mircea_popescu;this was the most amusing instance of being trolled while i know im being trolled. 354308;1382315917;mircea_popescu;and he doesn't even have tits. 354309;1382315919;nubbins`;NP-HardCoin 354310;1382315950;asciilifeform;everybody loves nphard, but the rest of the complexityzoo needs love too 354311;1382315951;asciilifeform;https://complexityzoo.uwaterloo.ca/Complexity_Zoo 354312;1382315952;ozbot;Complexity Zoo 354313;1382316234;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.76 = 1.52 BTC [-] 354314;1382316356;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5243 @ 0.00088553 = 4.6428 BTC [-] 354315;1382316417;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6557 @ 0.00088112 = 5.7775 BTC [-] {2} 354316;1382316449;mircea_popescu;Luke-Jr fwiw, this was pretty lulzy http://archive.is/61czq 354317;1382316834;MTBmanTT;Has anyone here used CEX? I know there is alot of back n fourth about them, but honestly ive been doing ok- almost have a whole btc, def. beats faucet crap 354318;1382316846;MTBmanTT;then again, Iam sure most of you have some actual money to work with in btc world :P 354319;1382316861;mircea_popescu;yes, this chan is for ppl doing 1k+ 354320;1382316895;MTBmanTT;noted 354321;1382317065;dexX7;what's the connection of cex and faucets? 354322;1382317073;MTBmanTT;On Mpex exchange, is that for 1K and above as well? 354323;1382317106;MTBmanTT;@dex, nothing really I am just a broke kid trying to earn a little is all...was wondering if I am just spinning my tires on something like CEX 354324;1382317110;mircea_popescu;anyway, so upon research the entire "luke-jr attacked litecoin" thing boils down to, back in april luke had no idea i had put the kaibosh on mtgox at the secret march meeting. thus he got all excited upon hearing mtgox intends to go die into altcoin heaven, and started a campaign of wiki editing and trolling the ltc dev chan. he didn't actually 51% ltc or anything. 354325;1382317122;mircea_popescu;MTBmanTT nah, you only pay 30 btc to get a seat. 354326;1382317144;MTBmanTT;lol ooook, ill be waiting outside if thats the case 354327;1382317174;mircea_popescu;you can prolly use a broker till then. 354328;1382317188;kakobrekla;no he couldnt have done much to ltc, he has sha256 pool not scrypt, not compatible 354329;1382317188;Luke-Jr;mircea_popescu: lol, troll 354330;1382317215;mircea_popescu;Luke-Jr which part ? 354331;1382317222;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=191679.msg2137984#msg2137984 apparently kano (still) doesn't like him. 354332;1382317268;Luke-Jr;of course he doesn't, he never did 354333;1382317271;Luke-Jr;he's a troll like you 354334;1382317274;Luke-Jr;and trolls tend to hate me 354335;1382317280;pankkake;everyone's a troll! 354336;1382317280;kakobrekla;im not sure who does, mp. 354337;1382317410;nubbins`;everyone is a troll except you 354338;1382317417;nubbins`;^ now there's a t-shirt idea 354339;1382317423;mircea_popescu;lol 354340;1382317430;mircea_popescu;i wonder if kano actually thinks he's like me. 354341;1382317729;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla lmao at XVII + nineteen = on the bash site. 354342;1382317734;mircea_popescu;this will become a fucking meme. 354343;1382317762;kakobrekla;hehe 354344;1382317811;mircea_popescu;;;google jesus is a troll 354345;1382317812;gribble;troll jesus on Tumblr: <http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/troll-jesus>; Jesus is a Jerk | Know Your Meme: <http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/jesus-is-a-jerk>; Troll Jesus | Facebook: <https://www.facebook.com/pages/Troll-Jesus/112914982053779> 354346;1382317881;nubbins`;http://imgur.com/MzrE2nc 354347;1382317881;ozbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 354348;1382317917;mircea_popescu;http://i.imgur.com/sX2AVO3.png 354349;1382317958;mircea_popescu;actually, much better, http://i.imgur.com/jEXJi13.gif 354350;1382317990;nubbins`;!! 354351;1382317998;nubbins`;now that's ankle strength 354352;1382318025;MTBmanTT;I waiting for a faceplant wont lie 354353;1382318029;mircea_popescu;girl that learned to high heel properly. 354354;1382318052;kakobrekla;speaking of bash 354355;1382318060;kakobrekla;this seems to be most disliked comment http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=7 354356;1382318070;kakobrekla;do we have lots of labcoin 'investor' readers? 354357;1382318090;mircea_popescu;btw, shouldn't you be approving some more ? 354358;1382318095;kakobrekla;i just did 354359;1382318129;kakobrekla;im still thinking about the anal prolapse one. 354360;1382318137;KRS1;"rosebud" 354361;1382318145;mircea_popescu;the worst part about being a bash mod 354362;1382318152;mircea_popescu;you get to spend a lot of time pondering anal prolapse. 354363;1382318186;kakobrekla;ill sleep on it. 354364;1382318192;mircea_popescu;don't fall in. 354365;1382318197;kakobrekla;hehe 354366;1382318240;mircea_popescu;also i just negged the labcoin bash because it's banal and unfunny 354367;1382318272;VanCleef;shut up, labcoin is going to recover damn it 354368;1382318279;nubbins`;can't get a home run with every swing, ya know 354369;1382318286;VanCleef;sam said so 354370;1382318491;mircea_popescu;nubbins` depends if you swing in the lake of cunt. 354371;1382318564;nubbins`;http://www.seanbaby.com/cleveland/images/bumper1.gif 354372;1382318589;nubbins`;not sure if relevant or if i've taken too many allergy pills 354373;1382318663;turbo_ac100_;lol 354374;1382318918;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8581 @ 0.00088531 = 7.5968 BTC [+] {2} 354375;1382321663;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 458 @ 0.00079499 = 0.3641 BTC [-] 354376;1382323981;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.40979571 = 2.8686 BTC [-] {4} 354377;1382326332;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o 354378;1382326333;ozbot;Who Does Number Two Work For? - YouTube 354379;1382326604;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4870 @ 0.00088395 = 4.3048 BTC [-] 354380;1382326665;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.76 = 3.04 BTC [-] 354381;1382328251;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4820 @ 0.00088395 = 4.2606 BTC [-] 354382;1382328678;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 27 @ 0.00732 = 0.1976 BTC [-] 354383;1382330233;bloctoc;anyone want to discuss why someone bought USD 320 calls on MPEX? seems ambitious 354384;1382330360;Vexual;how long? 354385;1382330379;bloctoc;10 days 354386;1382330430;bloctoc;scratch that expires on friday. 354387;1382330588;Vexual;what volume? 354388;1382330687;bloctoc;looks like they spent ~3 btc 354389;1382330746;Vexual;it's probably just mp trying to get on cia payroll, hes all balls brains and suit 354390;1382330752;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 53 @ 0.00271 = 0.1436 BTC [+] 354391;1382330779;bloctoc;maybe it's CIA paying mp for a look at the books. 354392;1382330864;bloctoc;balls, brains, suite and what we believe to be a swisher sweet. 354393;1382330983;Vexual;whats a swisher sweet? 354394;1382331082;Vexual;do cartier make brethmints now? 354395;1382331104;bloctoc;cheap sugar laced cigar you generally store at the gas station at 3AM after drinking since noon. 354396;1382331181;bloctoc;score at the gas station 354397;1382331219;Vexual;i don't know what he smokes, but he keeps cartier luxury mild for the ladies 354398;1382331288;bloctoc;classy 354399;1382331480;Vexual;i wouldn't go that far, smooth yes 354400;1382331484;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.00088446 = 11.7633 BTC [+] {2} 354401;1382332155;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2909 @ 0.00088811 = 2.5835 BTC [+] {3} 354402;1382333405;Vexual;kano's antique katana was no match for the swift decisive loafer to his gonads. Aspegers was cured temporarily at a range of 50 metres. The sword was sold on ebay with no reserve. 354403;1382333741;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.00744629 = 1.4893 BTC [+] {5} 354404;1382334991;Vexual;hey bella 354405;1382335046;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgInoVbM77E 354406;1382335046;ozbot;N.W.A. - Straight Outta Compton (EXPLICIT VERSION) - YouTube 354407;1382335644;mircea_popescu;http://www.strangedangers.com/images/content/151535.jpg 354408;1382335724;Vexual;tennis money 354409;1382335884;Vexual;powerful glutes 354410;1382335995;Vexual;have you seen her play mircea? 354411;1382336013;mircea_popescu;when she was real young 354412;1382336022;Vexual;where? 354413;1382336027;mircea_popescu;in constanta 354414;1382336043;Vexual;does she play wimbledon now? 354415;1382336075;Vexual;coz thats some champagne and strawberry scenery 354416;1382336093;mircea_popescu;she might win the next one. 354417;1382336117;Vexual;is she into dick? 354418;1382336199;mircea_popescu;to some extent i suppose 354419;1382336232;Vexual;itd be a pity if she was alergic 354420;1382336263;mircea_popescu;she's a 20ish yo tennis player on the upstroke. 354421;1382336275;mircea_popescu;she probably gets laid about as much as the average computer geek does. 354422;1382336301;Vexual;well if it wasnt vigourous, im sure her trainer would say it was a waste of time 354423;1382336393;mircea_popescu;funny thing is, serena williams is prolly her personal nemesis 354424;1382336408;mircea_popescu;wiped her in the finals twice i think. or mebbe three times 354425;1382336444;Vexual;ive got to get a tv 354426;1382336464;mircea_popescu;course serena is like what, 32 ? 354427;1382336472;Vexual;no idea 354428;1382336474;mircea_popescu;in five years she'll wipe her right back fo sho 354429;1382336497;Vexual;she looks very fit 354430;1382336552;Vexual;is her tennis game good? excitting as her body? 354431;1382336595;mircea_popescu;she just won the kremlin cup 354432;1382336614;Vexual;whats her prize money total? 354433;1382336653;mircea_popescu;milionish 354434;1382336667;Vexual;more importantly, whens she in a grand slam? 354435;1382336691;Vexual;im gonna get a case of gin and put a big bet on for her win 354436;1382336702;mircea_popescu;prolly this year. 354437;1382336721;Vexual;whats her name? 354438;1382336860;mircea_popescu;simona halep 354439;1382336899;mircea_popescu;you're probably going to get great ods, as she was wiped this year in au open, rg, wimbledon and us open. she goes like 1st 1st 2nd 4th 354440;1382336964;Vexual;well with the gin ana d the tv, i cant really lose 354441;1382337018;Vexual;watching her win at wimbledon from ther stands would be better 354442;1382337173;Vexual;http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1hu2g_snoop-dogg-sign_music 354443;1382337174;ozbot;Snoop Dogg : Sign - Video Dailymotion 354444;1382337462;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3550 @ 0.00088165 = 3.1299 BTC [-] {2} 354445;1382337562;Vexual;especially with a grand on at 50 to 1 354446;1382337843;Vexual;http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/70/Hopfen1.jpg/800px-Hopfen1.jpg 354447;1382338072;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.76 = 3.04 BTC [-] 354448;1382338987;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1994 @ 0.00088543 = 1.7655 BTC [+] 354449;1382339170;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 10614 @ 0.00230278 = 24.4417 BTC [-] {7} 354450;1382339353;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 80 @ 0.00748 = 0.5984 BTC [+] 354451;1382339963;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 300 @ 0.00748 = 2.244 BTC [+] 354452;1382340207;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 60 @ 0.00748 = 0.4488 BTC [+] 354453;1382340654;Vexual;ahh london in the summer 354454;1382340695;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.76 = 3.8 BTC [-] 354455;1382340748;Vexual;you can keep zurich and frankfurt 354456;1382340756;Vexual;new york 354457;1382341000;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.40979999 BTC [+] 354458;1382341122;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 545 @ 0.00748 = 4.0766 BTC [+] {3} 354459;1382341246;Vexual;it goes london, mumbai, sydney 354460;1382341329;Vexual;id put san fran in there for satoshi, but bitcoin has no hoome 354461;1382341391;kakobrekla;who is it that you are talking to? 354462;1382341419;Vexual;mainly me, but i know youre listening kako 354463;1382341423;kakobrekla;:) 354464;1382341430;Vexual;and i can see the logs 354465;1382341447;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TecR_5-rQ4U 354466;1382341448;ozbot;Dirty Cash(Money Talks) - YouTube 354467;1382341516;Vexual;if you're running out of hard drive, feel free to kick me to save on log space 354468;1382341534;kakobrekla;hd space is practically free these days 354469;1382341591;Vexual;ive got to replace my 40 gb system drive for the blockchain now 354470;1382341624;Vexual;im not sure if i buy a 256 ssd or 2tb hdd 354471;1382341646;Vexual;i think disc 354472;1382341854;kakobrekla;are you from 99? 354473;1382341969;VanCleef;is it possible to sue satoshi for coming up with the bitcoin mining scam? 354474;1382341981;Vexual;no 354475;1382341987;kakobrekla;are you from another planet? 354476;1382342001;Vexual;m or slovakistan? 354477;1382342016;kakobrekla;m? 354478;1382342022;Vexual;*me 354479;1382342033;kakobrekla;vancleef 354480;1382342037;Vexual;i missed the e, i type so fast 354481;1382342066;Vexual;and my found dell keyboard is encrusded with spilled cocktails 354482;1382342073;VanCleef;SEC wants to charge satoshi for the bitcoin mining scam 354483;1382342077;Vexual;sad but true 354484;1382342108;Vexual;satoshi gets stopped at airports, but doesn no crimes 354485;1382342121;VanCleef;we will get him, dont worry 354486;1382342129;Vexual;didnt even spend the old money ever 354487;1382342235;Vexual;sec's continued relevance can be measured in months 354488;1382342334;Vexual;gotta get me a honeywell 354489;1382342348;Vexual;black is s atupid colour for a kb 354490;1382342363;VanCleef;i need me some dot matrix action 354491;1382342415;Vexual;snes? 354492;1382342512;Vexual;dutch are you saying get solid state with the 99 gybe? 354493;1382342525;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4098 BTC [+] 354494;1382342586;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.76 = 1.52 BTC [-] 354495;1382342971;Vexual;ok, ssd 354496;1382342991;Vexual;after all 354497;1382343186;Vexual;foor old 40 samsung, hot but no failures ever 354498;1382343234;Vexual;no bad secor in 7 years 354499;1382343400;Vexual;i meant seagate 354500;1382343440;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.76 = 2.28 BTC [-] 354501;1382343620;Vexual;how old is friedcat? 354502;1382343835;Vexual;i would gess he was gorn in the eighties 354503;1382343867;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6836 @ 0.00088543 = 6.0528 BTC [+] 354504;1382344125;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTQSBm5A_FI 354505;1382344125;ozbot;Black Lagoon - Revy's Sound Advise - YouTube 354506;1382344369;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-Ui5Suk7q0 354507;1382344369;ozbot;Balalaika's Bad Day - YouTube 354508;1382344784;Vexual;cmon kako, put me on the bash, you know its clever 354509;1382344940;Vexual;half that shits about litecoin 354510;1382345331;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.4098 = 2.049 BTC [+] 354511;1382345462;dub;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOfyHjRONLo 354512;1382345462;ozbot;Waltzing Matilda (Australia Day 2009 Live) - YouTube 354513;1382345489;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zR6ROjoOX0 354514;1382345489;ozbot;Iggy Azalea - Work (Explicit) - YouTube 354515;1382345493;Vexual;sup dub 354516;1382345514;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 998 @ 0.002709 = 2.7036 BTC [+] 354517;1382345646;dub;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFDOLc7WosA 354518;1382345646;ozbot;Waltzing Matilda - YouTube 354519;1382345732;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML9h3I5Uktw 354520;1382345732;ozbot;GANGgajang - Sounds Of Then (This Is Australia) - YouTube 354521;1382345828;dub;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXlBN_mAwLE 354522;1382345829;ozbot;Kylie Minogue - Waltzing Matilda (2000) - YouTube 354523;1382345992;Vexual;as tastry a strumpet kylie is, i give you this 354524;1382346000;Vexual;http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x102uc_men-at-work-land-down-under_music 354525;1382346001;ozbot;Men At Work-Land Down Under - Video Dailymotion 354526;1382346223;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onE43h_TUUY 354527;1382346224;ozbot;Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap by AC/DC (with lyrics) - YouTube 354528;1382346856;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.1216 BTC [-] 354529;1382347081;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-oeDqdgIU4 354530;1382347081;ozbot;ACDC - Highway To Hell with lyrics - YouTube 354531;1382349236;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.76 = 2.28 BTC [-] 354532;1382351797;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.132705 = 0.2654 BTC [+] {2} 354533;1382352041;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 688 @ 0.00017005 = 0.117 BTC [-] {3} 354534;1382352530;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 15 @ 0.00745 = 0.1118 BTC [-] 354535;1382354359;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.76 = 2.28 BTC [-] 354536;1382355297;pankkake;Labcoin shareholder: "I'm really disappointed、angry、despair、depress." 354537;1382355326;Vexual;tell it to thge swede 354538;1382355343;kleeck;what a drama queen. 354539;1382355372;KRS1;Ah Poor investor. 354540;1382355457;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1300 @ 0.00222849 = 2.897 BTC [-] {7} 354541;1382355631;Vexual;if you gave money to a mentally ill person tho buy an icecream and they failed in the endeavour would you be surprised 354542;1382355744;jurov;;;bids 0.1 354543;1382355745;gribble;There are currently 438217.22 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.1 USD, worth 15860381.9766 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0094 seconds 354544;1382355773;jurov;;;asks 200 354545;1382355773;gribble;There are currently 6145.4144 bitcoins offered at or under 200.0 USD, worth 1214062.07692 USD in total. | Data vintage: 28.4765 seconds 354546;1382355791;kleeck;.d 354547;1382355791;ozbot;267731249.48242 | Next Diff in 1052 blocks | Estimated Change: 34.6435% in 4d 18h 26m 40s 354548;1382355851;jurov;;;asks 1000 354549;1382355851;gribble;There are currently 24241.38 bitcoins offered at or under 1000.0 USD, worth 6378279.99773 USD in total. | Data vintage: 105.9737 seconds 354550;1382355883;KRS1;heh vexual 354551;1382356115;kleeck;I take mentally ill people's money on the reg. 354552;1382356206;_Neil;Litecoin collapsed below 0.01 BTC 354553;1382356250;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13570 @ 0.00088444 = 12.0019 BTC [-] {3} 354554;1382356442;KRS1;saw that coming 354555;1382356799;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69348300 BTC to 1`386`966 shares, 50 satoshi per share 354556;1382357592;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2344 @ 0.00088198 = 2.0674 BTC [-] 354557;1382358444;pankkake;well it did already a few times on mcxNOW 354558;1382358491;pankkake;RIP litecoin 354559;1382358562;Vexual;2 blockchains are neccessary 354560;1382358596;pankkake;1) why? 2) why litecoin's? 354561;1382358610;Apocalyptic;pankkake, wonder where our friend skinnkavaj is 354562;1382358613;pankkake;I guess if you want to experiment you can have a merge mined coin, it is much safer 354563;1382358617;Apocalyptic;oh, he's there 354564;1382358631;skinnkavaj;I am right here 354565;1382358634;skinnkavaj;buying cheap LTC 354566;1382358641;pankkake;Apocalyptic: well, I doubt he said it wouldn't go under; his idea is that it will go up later 354567;1382358651;skinnkavaj;I really hope 354568;1382358654;skinnkavaj;it goes down more 354569;1382358658;skinnkavaj;So i can buy even more 354570;1382358670;skinnkavaj;Looking for 0.007 levels 354571;1382358672;pankkake;why not wait for the bottom? 354572;1382358679;skinnkavaj;There is no way to tell the bottom 354573;1382358683;skinnkavaj;But best guess 0.0007 354574;1382358687;skinnkavaj;Then i go all in 354575;1382358690;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.73 = 7.3 BTC [-] 354576;1382358691;pankkake;I mean, if I ever wanted to buy an altcoin falling that I did believe in, that's what I would do 354577;1382358691;Apocalyptic;pankkake, cause he is irrational 354578;1382358717;pankkake;I don't see a reason to buy right now, I'll just wait and watch the prices 354579;1382358742;pankkake;with bitcoins I don't like to wait because I don't trust my fiat in exchanges, but with altcoins it's fast 354580;1382358751;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.0074475 = 0.149 BTC [-] {3} 354581;1382358774;pankkake;just trying to help you skinnkavaj :) 354582;1382358801;Apocalyptic;pankkake, my guess is he's fully loaded in ltc and can't buy more anyway 354583;1382358813;pankkake;yes, sadly a possibility 354584;1382358827;pankkake;you can assume everyone's telling you to buy is selling, by default :p 354585;1382358838;pankkake;or at least holding 354586;1382358840;Apocalyptic;of course he bought some days ago, at 0.1* levels, trolling shit now 354587;1382358857;Apocalyptic;0.01* 354588;1382358923;pankkake;well buying at 0.01* isn't so bad. I'm glad I sold those I got at 0.03 or something :) (thankfully they were invested and I didn't lose BTC-wise) 354589;1382358977;pankkake;(sold at 0.02) 354590;1382359003;Vexual;litecoins current primary fucntion is cleaning dirty bitcoin for crims 354591;1382359015;Vexual;and silroad got busted 354592;1382359023;pankkake;Vexual: indeed, but any altcoin can do that 354593;1382359044;pankkake;actually, more obscure blockchains are probably better; though having a small spread is obviously good 354594;1382359102;pankkake;hmm I guess I could write some software to find the best altcoin to launder by looking at orderbooks 354595;1382359108;Vexual;well if some aspbergers find the windows box or blackberry or whatever with the seized silkroad keys on it, you migth want some overpriced ltc asks somewhere 354596;1382359137;Vexual;you could make a tumbler that works 354597;1382359300;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 87 @ 0.0074 = 0.6438 BTC [+] 354598;1382359361;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 8 @ 0.07497499 = 0.5998 BTC [+] {3} 354599;1382359503;Vexual;some of those exchanges tell the fbi to fuck off for sport 354600;1382359544;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 322 @ 0.001155 = 0.3719 BTC [+] 354601;1382359666;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 60 @ 0.00746 = 0.4476 BTC [+] 354602;1382359667;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.40999996 BTC [+] 354603;1382359916;pankkake;;;bc,stats 354604;1382359918;gribble;Current Blocks: 265069 | Current Difficulty: 2.677312494824211E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 266111 | Next Difficulty In: 1042 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 4 days, 23 hours, 39 minutes, and 19 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 360668416.691 | Estimated Percent Change: 34.71286 354605;1382360280;pankkake;why was "Coinbase Will Integrate Litecoin" rejected for Too late? did they add it? 354606;1382360337;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 176 @ 0.00264918 = 0.4663 BTC [+] 354607;1382360398;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 42 @ 0.0026492 = 0.1113 BTC [+] 354608;1382360459;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 131 @ 0.0071 = 0.9301 BTC [-] 354609;1382360582;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 374 @ 0.001155 = 0.432 BTC [+] 354610;1382361069;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 42 @ 0.00747 = 0.3137 BTC [-] 354611;1382361726;Rulother;Hey I need some software to record activity on my desktop, gots to make a demo for my company, any suggestions? 354612;1382361859;Troic;recordmydesktop 354613;1382361923;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4098 = 1.2294 BTC [-] 354614;1382361978;Rulother;thanks 354615;1382361984;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.380015 = 1.5201 BTC [-] {2} 354616;1382362106;Rulother;windows? 354617;1382362145;Troic;maybe on windows, I use it on *nix 354618;1382362472;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 10 @ 0.075 = 0.75 BTC [+] 354619;1382363204;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 25 @ 0.70617118 = 17.6543 BTC [-] {14} 354620;1382363265;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 229 @ 0.00701404 = 1.6062 BTC [-] {12} 354621;1382363509;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.380015 = 1.14 BTC [-] {2} 354622;1382364485;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 370 @ 0.00671326 = 2.4839 BTC [-] {14} 354623;1382365522;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 105 @ 0.00661999 = 0.6951 BTC [+] {3} 354624;1382365556;KRS1-;good morning from the U.S. 354625;1382365583;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 99 @ 0.00660602 = 0.654 BTC [-] {3} 354626;1382365827;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 250 @ 0.0066 = 1.65 BTC [-] 354627;1382365874;nubbins`;morning 354628;1382365886;nubbins`;although technically it's one minute past noon here 354629;1382366010;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 150 @ 0.00664987 = 0.9975 BTC [+] {11} 354630;1382366415;KRS1-;U.K.? 354631;1382366559;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 189 @ 0.00088 = 0.1663 BTC [-] 354632;1382366661;nubbins`;canada 354633;1382366671;topace;morning 354634;1382366691;topace;silly newfies 354635;1382366695;topace;and your extra half hour time zone 354636;1382366742;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.0065 = 1.3 BTC [-] 354637;1382366986;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.4 = 2.8 BTC [+] 354638;1382367124;nubbins`;the sun rises earlier in st. john's ;) 354639;1382368328;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 61 @ 0.00609487 = 0.3718 BTC [-] {11} 354640;1382368694;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.69000001 BTC [-] 354641;1382368778;skinnkavaj;pankkake 354642;1382368793;skinnkavaj;Do you think that in one years LTC is completley dead, no one is talking about it 354643;1382368816;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5023 @ 0.00087842 = 4.4123 BTC [-] {3} 354644;1382368825;skinnkavaj;everyone forgot about mtgox, coblee with coinbase and his chinese brother running the btcchina exchange 354645;1382368859;pankkake;that's kind of vague 354646;1382368864;skinnkavaj;And ltc was just something hip for 2 years 354647;1382368865;skinnkavaj;? 354648;1382368885;dexX7;hey pankkake 354649;1382368891;pankkake;well, I do think the hype phase is done yes 354650;1382368897;dexX7;can you create some am bets and spam the forum? 354651;1382368900;dexX7;=D 354652;1382368919;pankkake;dexX7: hehe, well there is http://bitbet.us/bet/534/price-of-asicminer-2-btc-per-share/ 354653;1382368927;skinnkavaj;pankkake: So LTC in one year has crashed even more? 354654;1382368967;dexX7;i was thinking about something like "gen 2 will be delievered before xx" and "am gen 2 has a lower power consumption than bitfury, knc and x" or so 354655;1382368972;pankkake;skinnkavaj: hard to know, but its market cap will be probably closer to other altcoins 354656;1382369025;pankkake;hmm I guess, but it's highly subjective, hard to say what is "gen 2" without proper announcments 354657;1382369078;skinnkavaj;pankkake: There is no way everyone will forget about Mtgox, Coinbase and Btcchina exchange.. The hype has not even begun. 354658;1382369085;pankkake;but I'll try to think about it :) 354659;1382369134;pankkake;what are some fiat exchanges going to bring, when you can very easily do fiat=>btc=>ltc anyway? the btc=>ltc step really isn't incovenent 354660;1382369150;pankkake;btc-e and kraken already tie it to fiat 354661;1382369212;skinnkavaj;pankkake: Merchants using LTC 354662;1382369226;dexX7;really? 354663;1382369232;skinnkavaj;The reason why Bitpay is not using LTC is beacause of lack of support from mtgox 354664;1382369237;skinnkavaj;They need big volume 354665;1382369244;pankkake;Coinbase can probably help with that, along with bringing web wallets I guess 354666;1382369250;skinnkavaj;Everyone has gone around waiting for MTgox 354667;1382369253;skinnkavaj;when it finally happens 354668;1382369260;skinnkavaj;do you think that LTC will go under in value? 354669;1382369264;pankkake;is coinbase using mtgox? how are they getting their USD? 354670;1382369267;skinnkavaj;Buy on rumours 354671;1382369268;skinnkavaj;Sell on news 354672;1382369289;skinnkavaj;pankkake: Coinbase use Mtgox 354673;1382369309;skinnkavaj;Look this is no secrete, coblee has even asked bitpay why no LTC.. yeah because no big exchange 354674;1382369311;skinnkavaj;support LTC 354675;1382369321;skinnkavaj;everyone has been waiting for mtgox 354676;1382369377;pankkake;that makes no sense, as it is very easy to do ltc=>btc=>fiat 354677;1382369404;skinnkavaj;Yes 354678;1382369406;skinnkavaj;for you and mei 354679;1382369408;skinnkavaj;its easy 354680;1382369413;skinnkavaj;who have 10 BTC? 354681;1382369414;pankkake;sure, you lose a bit with fees and spread 354682;1382369417;skinnkavaj;But ask Bitpay 354683;1382369420;skinnkavaj;how big volume 354684;1382369423;skinnkavaj;do you think they have? 354685;1382369425;btcgaming__;Try your luck at crossing a minefield! Free play! ~~ https://www.satoshi-karoshi.com/?r=10670 ~~ 354686;1382369619;pankkake;hmm coinbase's buy price is $182 while mtgox's is $192 354687;1382369648;TomServo;;;ticker 354688;1382369649;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 192.50002, Best ask: 193.50076, Bid-ask spread: 1.00074, Last trade: 193.69972, 24 hour volume: 22260.28449495, 24 hour low: 181.00013, 24 hour high: 197.39005, 24 hour vwap: 190.41948 354689;1382369665;TomServo;It'd be nice to gribble start quoting bitcoinaverage.com or some such. 354690;1382369683;pankkake;at least stop using mtgox by default, especially for commands where you can't chose 354691;1382369689;skinnkavaj;TomServo: ask nanotube about it 354692;1382369733;dexX7;bitcoinaverage.com is indeed a great website 354693;1382369774;TomServo;Indeed, love the big "ignore gox price" button 354694;1382369801;dexX7;:D 354695;1382369853;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.68833333 = 8.26 BTC [-] {2} 354696;1382369855;skinnkavaj;So pankkake is now speechless about LTC 354697;1382369865;skinnkavaj;I bet he is secretley buying 354698;1382369867;pankkake;uh? lol 354699;1382369895;pankkake;what is there to add? 354700;1382369923;pankkake;https://kojn-app.com/ they support ltc - and I've seen an altcoin payment processor that automatically converted to bitcoin 354701;1382369942;pankkake;so it is possible *now* even without a directly tied to fiat exchange, because it's so easy to exchange altcoins 354702;1382371012;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 546 @ 0.00115054 = 0.6282 BTC [-] {7} 354703;1382371256;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 158 @ 0.00691894 = 1.0932 BTC [+] {5} 354704;1382371378;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.007 = 0.175 BTC [+] 354705;1382371927;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 101 @ 0.007 = 0.707 BTC [+] 354706;1382372583;jurov;!t m s.nsa 354707;1382372584;assbot;[MPEX:S.NSA] 1D: 0.00028 / 0.00028 / 0.00028 (100 shares, 0.03 BTC), 7D: 0.0001 / 0.0001 / 0.00028 (4737175 shares, 473.74 BTC), 30D: 0.0001 / 0.0001 / 0.00028 (4737175 shares, 473.74 BTC) 354708;1382372598;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5944 @ 0.00087714 = 5.2137 BTC [-] 354709;1382372964;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 96 @ 0.007 = 0.672 BTC [+] {2} 354710;1382373302;jurov;Ukyo, I'd like to reissue CoinBr.iDiff-E but wanted to get verified first... but still waiting :( 354711;1382375038;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.67419999 = 3.371 BTC [-] {5} 354712;1382375520;Kushed;. 354713;1382376868;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 39 @ 0.39999999 = 15.6 BTC [-] {3} 354714;1382377123;pankkake;http://cointerra.com/product/terraminer-iv-2ths-networked-miner-january-batch/ new pictures 354715;1382377335;kakobrekla;where are labcoin pictures 354716;1382377367;jcpham;at the printer obv 354717;1382377478;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.4 = 2.4 BTC [+] 354718;1382379491;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 443 @ 0.00087714 = 0.3886 BTC [-] 354719;1382379613;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 10000 @ 0.00218491 = 21.8491 BTC [-] {21} 354720;1382379674;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.40999995 BTC [+] 354721;1382379979;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MG] 4461 @ 0.00015 = 0.6692 BTC [-] 354722;1382380406;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4 = 0.8 BTC [-] 354723;1382380451;dub;;;ticker --market all 354724;1382380461;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD last: 192.99999, vol: 22501.56130459 | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 177.03, vol: 26599.82333438 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 169.28, vol: 11013.007 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 178.0, vol: 5013.0485047 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 168.50, vol: 865.87779979 | Volume-weighted last average: 181.143683516 354725;1382380772;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.705 BTC [+] 354726;1382380894;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 39 @ 0.0068 = 0.2652 BTC [-] 354727;1382381077;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 19 @ 0.07 = 1.33 BTC [-] {2} 354728;1382381685;jurov;;;ticker 354729;1382381686;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 193.00000, Best ask: 193.73999, Bid-ask spread: 0.73999, Last trade: 193.74000, 24 hour volume: 22645.45965562, 24 hour low: 182.55231, 24 hour high: 197.39005, 24 hour vwap: 190.98508 354730;1382381698;jurov;;;asks 200 354731;1382381699;gribble;There are currently 7726.7519 bitcoins offered at or under 200.0 USD, worth 1529282.36191 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0015 seconds 354732;1382382064;MobGod;can ahyone tell me what the command would be to check a price? 354733;1382382070;MobGod;anyone* 354734;1382382073;MobGod;looking for asicminer 354735;1382382089;kakobrekla;on which exchange 354736;1382382127;kakobrekla;but anyway, !ticker <exchange> <symbol> 354737;1382382135;MobGod;kakobrekla doesn't matter maybe a general price 354738;1382382137;kakobrekla;!t m s.bbet 354739;1382382138;assbot;[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00061999 / 0.00061999 / 0.00061999 (5000 shares, 3.10 BTC), 30D: 0.0005 / 0.00054865 / 0.00061999 (43300 shares, 23.76 BTC) 354740;1382382236;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4 BTC [-] 354741;1382382258;mike_c;!t h am1 354742;1382382259;assbot;[HAVELOCK:AM1] 1D: 0.66000000 / 0.73022396 / 0.78799900 (95 shares, 69.37127654 BTC), 7D: 0.52700020 / 0.65301904 / 0.85799990 (1412 shares, 922.06288531 BTC), 30D: 0.52700020 / 0.91519381 / 1.76899999 (3196 shares, 2924.95942608 BTC) 354743;1382382354;deadweasel;http://projectshield.withgoogle.com/ 354744;1382382354;ozbot;Project Shield 354745;1382382361;deadweasel;is this going to be any good? 354746;1382382404;MobGod;i was using this site https://btct.co does anyone suggest anyone i can use ? 354747;1382382413;MobGod;another* 354748;1382382576;kakobrekla;play exchange or real exchange? 354749;1382382799;lewicki;.d 354750;1382382799;ozbot;267731249.48242 | Next Diff in 986 blocks | Estimated Change: 35.2315% in 4d 10h 24m 6s 354751;1382382907;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.0011499 = 0.115 BTC [-] 354752;1382383065;dub;deadweasel: lol 354753;1382383079;dub;im sure google is happy to "protect" any content they can 354754;1382383267;deadweasel;they certainly have the infrastructure to beat cloudflares abilities.. 354755;1382383284;deadweasel;i have no resources that need protect, so it's just curiousity. 354756;1382383395;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 19 @ 0.0068 = 0.1292 BTC [-] 354757;1382383502;MobGod;sup dub 354758;1382383553;Bunnyh;http://bitbet.us/bet/525/litecoin-to-fall-below-01-btc-before-2014/ this should be resolved to YES soon, right? 354759;1382383554;ozbot;BitBet - Litecoin to fall below .01 BTC before 2014 354760;1382383620;skinnkavaj;Bunnyh: The time to buy LTC is NOW 354761;1382383631;nubbins`;!t h am1 354762;1382383633;assbot;[HAVELOCK:AM1] 1D: 0.66000000 / 0.72694694 / 0.78799899 (89 shares, 64.69827754 BTC), 7D: 0.52700020 / 0.65301904 / 0.85799990 (1412 shares, 922.06288531 BTC), 30D: 0.52700020 / 0.91519381 / 1.76899999 (3196 shares, 2924.95942608 BTC) 354763;1382383633;Bunnyh;lol, the ltc troll awakens 354764;1382383648;nubbins`;is that low / last / high, errr..? 354765;1382383664;skinnkavaj;Bunnyh: I will be here in this channel until LTC is 0.1 354766;1382383683;MobGod;so does anyone know who i can use now that btct is gone ? 354767;1382383701;kakobrekla;play exchange or real exchange? 354768;1382383729;MobGod;real 354769;1382383734;MobGod;why would i play lol 354770;1382383734;kakobrekla;mpex 354771;1382383745;kakobrekla;cause you seem to be playing 354772;1382383755;MobGod;kakobrekla so no more back doors 354773;1382383765;kakobrekla;hm? 354774;1382383822;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 329 @ 0.00114002 = 0.3751 BTC [-] {4} 354775;1382383872;nubbins`;you mean massive csrf vulnerabilities that existed on a bunch of exchanges until recently? 354776;1382383883;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 103 @ 0.00114 = 0.1174 BTC [-] {2} 354777;1382383891;nubbins`;nope, none of those on mpex 354778;1382383905;pankkake;investors like it in the back door 354779;1382383932;phungus;I want to find a copy of that porno movie 354780;1382383936;phungus;the original "Behind the Back Door" 354781;1382383939;phungus;it was soo good 354782;1382383942;phungus;from the 80's 354783;1382383949;phungus;lol 354784;1382383958;pankkake;Bunnyh: I'm actually surprised no one is trying to bet after the fact 354785;1382383976;kakobrekla;people do learn if you take their money. 354786;1382383987;pankkake;it looks like the last bets were a lesson, yes :) 354787;1382384013;MobGod;kakobrekla so nothing really out there 354788;1382384020;kakobrekla;O_o 354789;1382384026;kakobrekla;thats what you said 354790;1382384045;MobGod;i'm asking what people are using now 354791;1382384056;kakobrekla;thats completley different question 354792;1382384073;MobGod;i'm sure they all didn't goto mpex 354793;1382384087;kakobrekla;no, most of them are still playing on other exchanges 354794;1382384106;kakobrekla;such as GLBSE and 354795;1382384113;kakobrekla;err i ment BTCtco 354796;1382384130;kakobrekla;and buttfunder 354797;1382384194;pankkake;buttfinder 354798;1382384211;pankkake;bitfodder 354799;1382384338;deadweasel;it's called 'Behind the Green Door' 354800;1382384346;deadweasel;and it's a great Porno. 354801;1382384370;deadweasel;although I'm sure there are plenty with back-door in the title. 354802;1382384636;phungus;no 354803;1382384643;phungus;not behind the Green door 354804;1382384652;phungus;that is a distinct movie from the one I'm talking about 354805;1382384665;phungus;Behind the Back Door is different and lower budget 354806;1382384670;phungus;but I think it may have had Ginger Lynn in it 354807;1382384694;phungus;that was like, the first porno I ever watched 354808;1382384695;phungus;lol 354809;1382384733;deadweasel;ditto for me on the Green Door. first..... of MANY. 354810;1382384745;deadweasel;thank god my dad had a VHS stash. 354811;1382384753;phungus;yeah this came from my friend's dad 354812;1382384754;phungus;lol 354813;1382384761;phungus;my own dad didn't do porno 354814;1382384768;deadweasel;or you couldn't find it.... 354815;1382384773;deadweasel;.. 354816;1382384775;deadweasel;. 354817;1382384797;phungus;no he didn't 354818;1382384810;phungus;I found everything else 354819;1382384811;phungus;lol 354820;1382384903;deadweasel;haha. OMG i hope my non-existent children don't find my browser history. 354821;1382384942;MobGod;kakobrekla i think they are closed also 354822;1382384956;kakobrekla;MobGod play exchanges tend to do that. 354823;1382385003;MobGod;kakobrekla ok than to ask the question correctly any play exchanges around right now 354824;1382385059;kakobrekla;a few 354825;1382385109;pigeons;bitfunder is only closed to "united states persons" 354826;1382385130;pigeons;or entities 354827;1382385138;pankkake;it's closed to anyone wanting to be anonymous, too 354828;1382385148;pigeons;yes 354829;1382385162;pigeons;another good play exchange is havelock 354830;1382385166;kakobrekla;and also closed to anyone who doesnt want to use some 3rd party site for deposits 354831;1382385176;pigeons;doubt you can be anonymous or a united states person or entity there either 354832;1382385184;pankkake;it's also closed to anyone who value having a >50% chance of getting back their coins 354833;1382385184;pigeons;oh, yeah, what he said 354834;1382385186;phungus;havelock is not accepting new listings 354835;1382385190;pankkake;:) 354836;1382385194;phungus;until they figure out regulations 354837;1382385197;phungus;:-( 354838;1382385205;phungus;BitVPS is Shit out of luck right now 354839;1382385211;nubbins`;http://bitbet.us/bet/552/havelock-will-announce-us-restrictions-by-guy-fawkes/ 354840;1382385212;pigeons;hey how about just-dice for the man then 354841;1382385212;ozbot;BitBet - Havelock will announce US restrictions by Guy Fawkes Night 354842;1382385220;pankkake;it's funny that weexchange supports gpg authentication, but if you enable it, you are locked out of your account 354843;1382385228;pankkake;as there is no way to actually use it 354844;1382385230;kakobrekla;lol 354845;1382385234;pankkake;by support, I mean there is an option 354846;1382385247;pankkake;and of course, good luck getting *any* support 354847;1382385253;nubbins`;weexchange is why i never had a bitfunder account 354848;1382385260;nubbins`;who wants to sign up for two new things at once? 354849;1382385261;kakobrekla;idiots doing idiotic things, nothing new in the btc world. 354850;1382385266;pankkake;well, I created an account, luckily never put coins 354851;1382385305;pigeons;ooh i have a good play exchange if you liked btct. crypto-trade.com sells "shares" in his "ddos prevention biznas" and the exchange itstelf in ltc and btc 354852;1382385330;kakobrekla;what about crypto stocks 354853;1382385334;kakobrekla;and 123.com 354854;1382385342;kakobrekla;and umm what was the other one 354855;1382385353;kakobrekla;i forgot 354856;1382385361;pigeons;yeah cryptostocks, which will never get hacked cause its run by vircurex 354857;1382385390;pigeons;oh relatively new one cex.io 354858;1382385405;kakobrekla;and mcxnow 354859;1382385417;pigeons;yes, get in at the top 354860;1382385418;kakobrekla;that one has built in ponzi 354861;1382385424;kakobrekla;good stuff 354862;1382385443;kakobrekla;i think everyone should invest there 354863;1382385447;pigeons;hey what about the nasty fan club? 354864;1382385463;kakobrekla;oh yeah, nasty is the man. 354865;1382385494;kakobrekla;and BFL has preorders security exhcange 354866;1382385497;dexX7;"build in ponzi" lol 354867;1382385518;dexX7;mcxnow is just an altcoin exchange, nothing more 354868;1382385525;dexX7;they don't want securities 354869;1382385529;kakobrekla;it pays daily interests on deposit 354870;1382385536;kakobrekla;and they have itself listed 354871;1382385540;kakobrekla;and trading there 354872;1382385542;dexX7;yea 354873;1382385543;pigeons;dexX7: they have a security called "FEEshares" 354874;1382385558;dexX7;i know 354875;1382385568;kakobrekla;i think BFL preorders are the way to go 354876;1382385578;kakobrekla;get em while they are cheap! 354877;1382385584;pigeons;i would get in on some litecoin ASICs 354878;1382385586;dexX7;oh wait. is the bfl preorder exchange already up? 354879;1382385590;kakobrekla;it isnt? 354880;1382385595;dexX7;i don't know? 354881;1382385596;dexX7;hehe 354882;1382385596;kakobrekla;twas like 2 weeks 2 months ago 354883;1382385601;kakobrekla;should be up by tomorrow 354884;1382385621;kakobrekla;as soon as jalapenos ship ya know 354885;1382385631;dexX7;yeah, probably tomorrow or the day after 354886;1382385637;pankkake;even bfl fails at exploiting its failures 354887;1382385640;kakobrekla;maybe even yesterday 354888;1382385642;kakobrekla;if we are lucky 354889;1382386125;BigBitz;Two Weeks. Min. 354890;1382386628;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.73999989 = 1.48 BTC [+] 354891;1382386629;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 3165 @ 0.00109016 = 3.4504 BTC [-] {8} 354892;1382386689;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1645 @ 0.00109 = 1.7931 BTC [-] 354893;1382386718;FabianB_;21:53 < pankkake> it's funny that weexchange supports gpg authentication, but if you enable it, you are locked out of your account 354894;1382386751;FabianB_;pankkake: i didn't use it for a while, but it used to work like this: put "gpg" in the password field instead of your password 354895;1382386764;pankkake;oh 354896;1382386769;FabianB_;pankkake: then you can authenticate via gpg 354897;1382386793;pankkake;indeed 354898;1382386811;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.39 = 1.95 BTC [-] 354899;1382386841;pankkake;thanks 354900;1382386857;FabianB_;pankkake: np 354901;1382386874;FabianB_;don't know why Ukyo never documented it 354902;1382386933;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.74 = 1.48 BTC [+] 354903;1382387055;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.73999989 = 1.48 BTC [-] 354904;1382387116;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.73999989 = 2.96 BTC [-] 354905;1382387238;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.73999989 = 1.48 BTC [-] 354906;1382387299;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.73999989 BTC [-] 354907;1382388829;Ukyo;FabianB_: if you enabled gpg, you must use 'gpg' as password when you login 354908;1382388846;Ukyo;was a broken method to get to gpg auth method at login 354909;1382388859;Ukyo;the new weex site just has you log in normally and then do gpg auth 354910;1382389007;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.00114765 = 0.1148 BTC [+] {3} 354911;1382389078;FabianB_;Ukyo: np for those who know i guess 354912;1382389171;the20year;Ukyo: What are asset issuers expected to do with regards to our assets on BF if we personally are located in the US? I can't verify due to living in the US, unless you want me to get the nominee director verified. 354913;1382389323;Ukyo;you can verify regardless of where you are 354914;1382389330;Ukyo;and if you are an issuer, regardless you should be verified 354915;1382389333;the20year;but won't verifying that i'm in the US lock me out? 354916;1382389342;Ukyo;besides, with the new weex licensing coming up, if you are us you will wanna be verified 354917;1382389342;Ukyo;:P 354918;1382389357;Ukyo;regardless a us based account will be locked out of buying 354919;1382389363;Ukyo;weather you verify or not 354920;1382389367;the20year;Even my own asset? 354921;1382389367;Ukyo;and as of nov 1 354922;1382389370;Ukyo;if you are not verified 354923;1382389372;Ukyo;you will be locked out 354924;1382389375;Ukyo;fully 354925;1382389381;the20year;k 354926;1382389385;jurov;btw, i have inquired about being a BF broker for these poor US citizens... but as there is no api the prospect is moot 354927;1382389403;jurov;but if offline broker os okay, you can approach me anyway ;) 354928;1382389409;jurov;*is okay 354929;1382389410;Ukyo;there is api. just the trade function is still in testing 354930;1382389417;Ukyo;i cant give you permission to be a broker. 354931;1382389426;Ukyo;not an area of discussion i can have 354932;1382389437;jurov;what if i wont ask? 354933;1382389440;the20year;call the ukyo legal team for help 354934;1382389452;Ukyo;hehe 354935;1382389460;the20year;are you going to go to ip filtering soon? 354936;1382389464;Ukyo;the20year: as for continuance of assets, I should have more info soon 354937;1382389470;Ukyo;the20year: already checking for ip 354938;1382389470;the20year;or is the weex threshold good enough for your lawyers? 354939;1382389483;Ukyo;but once nov1 hits, if your not weex verified, ip wont matter 354940;1382389487;the20year;I have this feeling your legal team and mine are telling us the same things :( 354941;1382389496;the20year;i'll get those docs out to weex right now 354942;1382389512;Ukyo;btw, if you have issuer docs, for corp info, open a ticket and post it 354943;1382389515;Ukyo;url to images 354944;1382389516;Ukyo;etc 354945;1382389519;the20year;k 354946;1382389527;Ukyo;to have it filed on your asset data 354947;1382389531;Ukyo;internally 354948;1382389532;the20year;i'm waiting for our HK seal and stuff, we're doing the nominee director thing and it's taking longer than I had hoped 354949;1382389543;jborkl;so 50btc got hacked 354950;1382389556;Ukyo;welcome to bitcoin 354951;1382389572;Ukyo;they have finally been initiated 354952;1382389617;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.00108001 = 0.108 BTC [-] 354953;1382389619;dexX7;http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/oct/21/bitcoin-price-surges-to-post-crash-high Bitcoin receives criticism for its "mining" mechanic, ... Once cybercriminals recognised the monetary opportunity in Bitcoin, ... In a few weeks, he earned 30 bitcoins, currently worth about $6,000, but damaged customers' computers in the process. << stupid mining mechanic, used by criminals to 354954;1382389619;dexX7;damage computers >D 354955;1382389620;ozbot;Bitcoin price surges to post-crash high | Technology | theguardian.com 354956;1382389624;jborkl;I guess you have had a busy couple weeks ukyo 354957;1382389632;Ukyo;had? heh 354958;1382389636;Ukyo;have and upcoming 354959;1382389654;jborkl;lol 354960;1382389661;the20year;it's an exciting time 354961;1382389670;the20year;i just wish i had more capital access 354962;1382389678;Ukyo;dont we all 354963;1382389680;jurov;post-crack high 354964;1382389684;the20year;not really 354965;1382389686;jborkl;no, the run from $10 -$266 wore me out 354966;1382389695;jborkl;I do not even look at the price anymore 354967;1382389704;the20year;I posted something about capital investment and had a bunch of people chime in telling me I was stupid for asking for money from investors 354968;1382389743;jborkl;$266 to what $52 the next day 354969;1382389753;the20year;"Work hard, save your money till you have enough to do what you want" was the most common response i got 354970;1382389806;the20year;Will a weapons permit count towards the govt issued photo ID Ukyo? 354971;1382389870;Ukyo;thats a tough one 354972;1382389880;Ukyo;i knwo texas permit looks almost identical to state id 354973;1382389884;Ukyo;and drivers license 354974;1382389888;kakobrekla;the20year, hint: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=298787.0 354975;1382389928;the20year;ohio looks similar to texas 354976;1382389938;Ukyo;for now, i would assume no 354977;1382389952;the20year;looks like a driver's license 354978;1382390021;Ukyo;i mean, you can upload it 354979;1382390028;Ukyo;i can pass the request to lawyers 354980;1382390034;Ukyo;and mebbe in a week or two get an answer for you 354981;1382390035;Ukyo;:P 354982;1382390097;the20year;it's a county issued ID approved by the state 354983;1382390113;Ukyo;i didnt say i would deny it 354984;1382390117;Ukyo;just said I would have to get it approved 354985;1382390118;Ukyo;:P 354986;1382390122;the20year;i know what my lawyer would say 354987;1382390220;the20year;(yes) 354988;1382390532;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00087613 = 12.9667 BTC [-] {2} 354989;1382391035;the20year;Ukyo: will asset owners be able to transfer shares, not buy/sell, but transfer? 354990;1382391049;Ukyo;only to not us users 354991;1382391056;Ukyo;only to non US users 354992;1382391070;the20year;specifically , if a shareholder wants to just send back their shares 354993;1382391072;Ukyo;limitations do not distringuish between issuer and user 354994;1382391079;Ukyo;it does not understand. all issuers are just users 354995;1382391082;the20year;k 354996;1382391403;dexX7;https://blockchain.info/address/1FngtAcZsLfK89MNe7TqzyqVtSype8TiVD uh oh silkroad coins on the move 354997;1382391404;ozbot;Bitcoin Address 1FngtAcZsLfK89MNe7TqzyqVtSype8TiVD 354998;1382392281;kakobrekla;>>There are always a lot of unknowns... I'm doing my best to keep our growth rate ahead of the overall network while at the same time introducing new sources of BTC donations. The end of the year should prove to be very exciting for NastyFans. Giving up our BFL orders at this point just isn't going to happen. I would think at the very least they will be reselling at a premium for people in the bullet run. Also, we got up to a 25% discount 354999;1382392301;kakobrekla;>>discount on our Monarch orders (some lower because of a 10% order transfer fee). 355000;1382392311;kakobrekla;so wait, BFL takes 10% for transfers!? 355001;1382392339;jborkl;yes, if your order was after March 2013? 355002;1382392355;kakobrekla;dunno never ordered anything 355003;1382392361;jborkl;if it was before the transfer fee is 0 355004;1382392369;kakobrekla;lol 355005;1382392382;kakobrekla;now its just scammers left scamming each other 355006;1382392387;jborkl;March/aPRIL SOMETHING LIKE THAT 355007;1382392395;jborkl;sorry caps lock 355008;1382392426;kakobrekla;i was thinking of their preorder exchange thingy 355009;1382392429;pankkake;;;market sell 36000 355010;1382392430;gribble;A market order to sell 36000 bitcoins right now would net 5604020.9133 USD and would take the last price down to 125.1200 USD, resulting in an average price of 155.6672 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 70.1064 seconds 355011;1382392479;jborkl;as far as I know it is free to transfer orders to other people 355012;1382392490;kakobrekla;aha 355013;1382392491;jborkl;I have not used it 355014;1382392501;jborkl;the upgrade to 28nm is 10% 355015;1382392545;jborkl;the upgrade from uselessware to Vaporware is only 10% limited time offer 355016;1382392574;kakobrekla;seems like a good deal 355017;1382393460;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 24 @ 0.00664 = 0.1594 BTC [-] 355018;1382394619;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.40999996 = 0.82 BTC [+] {2} 355019;1382394680;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 569 @ 0.0011002 = 0.626 BTC [-] {2} 355020;1382394741;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 258 @ 0.0011488 = 0.2964 BTC [+] {3} 355021;1382394802;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.00114979 = 0.115 BTC [+] 355022;1382394863;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.0011498 = 0.115 BTC [+] 355023;1382394986;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 12 @ 0.14298166 = 1.7158 BTC [+] {2} 355024;1382395046;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 13 @ 0.14419845 = 1.8746 BTC [+] {3} 355025;1382395107;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.40999996 = 2.05 BTC [+] 355026;1382395168;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 106 @ 0.00114979 = 0.1219 BTC [-] {2} 355027;1382395169;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.40999996 = 2.05 BTC [+] 355028;1382395229;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.40999996 = 2.05 BTC [+] 355029;1382395290;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.74899979 BTC [+] 355030;1382395351;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 37 @ 0.0065777 = 0.2434 BTC [-] {3} 355031;1382395412;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 39 @ 0.00664994 = 0.2593 BTC [+] {2} 355032;1382395534;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 103 @ 0.00114979 = 0.1184 BTC [-] {2} 355033;1382397145;Diablo-D3;lol 355034;1382397163;Diablo-D3;now icebreaker is trying to back out and say he was complaining based on outdated information 355035;1382397185;Diablo-D3;I think someone higher up in the food chain told him to stfu or get banned 355036;1382397287;dub;obama himself most likely 355037;1382399180;KRS1;;;market sell 38211 355038;1382399181;gribble;A market order to sell 38211 bitcoins right now would net 5894950.9038 USD and would take the last price down to 122.4534 USD, resulting in an average price of 154.2737 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0034 seconds 355039;1382399216;Jere_Jones;Diablo-D3: What are you talking about? 355040;1382399646;Diablo-D3;Jere_Jones: icebreaker is saying that Im stealing assets from him even though hes admitted hes no longer a dmc shareholder 355041;1382399747;Jere_Jones;Having been historically annoyed by icebreaker, I am always looking for something solid to back up my dislike. In this case, I couldn't find anything though. But I was looking for something on bitcointalk. 355042;1382399997;Diablo-D3;its all in pm, although hes trying to drag yochdog and ukyo into it 355043;1382400018;Diablo-D3;hes now claiming I changed the DMC final notice in the past day or so 355044;1382400023;Jere_Jones;Ah. Well, good luck. 355045;1382400037;Diablo-D3;(it hasnt been edited for like 3-4 days, before he started messaging me) 355046;1382400082;Jere_Jones;I wonder if there would be a market for a bitcointalk archive... 355047;1382400470;Diablo-D3;Jere_Jones: probably not 355048;1382401207;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 110 @ 0.00631 = 0.6941 BTC [-] {2} 355049;1382401268;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 80 @ 0.00615568 = 0.4925 BTC [-] {6} 355050;1382401680;mircea_popescu;soo what's new 355051;1382401740;mircea_popescu;<dub> im sure google is happy to "protect" any content they can << 355052;1382401770;mircea_popescu;phungus> the original "Behind the Back Door" < you mean green door ? 355053;1382401817;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 95 @ 0.00600969 = 0.5709 BTC [-] {7} 355054;1382401973;mircea_popescu;Jere_Jones if curated. 355055;1382402015;bloctoc;nice article about experian selling full consumer profiles to a bonafide identity thievery service. 355056;1382402018;bloctoc;http://krebsonsecurity.com/2013/10/experian-sold-consumer-data-to-id-theft-service/ 355057;1382402020;ozbot;Experian Sold Consumer Data to ID Theft Service — Krebs on Security 355058;1382402051;mircea_popescu;hahaha 355059;1382402072;mircea_popescu;you know, i was bitching years ago about yahoo selling email content to spammers, ppl were ono not possible. 355060;1382402155;Jere_Jones;mircea_popescu: How do you curate an archive? It's just a series of snapshots. 355061;1382402221;mircea_popescu;by taking out the 99% crap idiots barf into it and taking out the gems basically. 355062;1382402237;Jere_Jones;Ah. Like a "best of". 355063;1382402248;mircea_popescu;yeah 355064;1382402328;Jere_Jones;You'd need a team of "curators". There are about 10 new posts a second. 355065;1382402341;mircea_popescu;http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/20/young-people-japan-stopped-having-sex 355066;1382402342;ozbot;Why have young people in Japan stopped having sex? | World news | The Observer 355067;1382402348;mircea_popescu;Jere_Jones whixch is why it'd be worth money. 355068;1382402379;Jere_Jones;Interesting 355069;1382402709;mircea_popescu;"Of the estimated 13 million unmarried people in Japan who currently live with their parents, around three million are over the age of 35." 355070;1382402715;mircea_popescu;it's a wonder bitcoin isn't bigger in japan 355071;1382403464;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 20 @ 0.008875 = 0.1775 BTC [-] {2} 355072;1382403492;KRS1;hehe 355073;1382403560;KRS1;we probably shouldn't have nuked them. 355074;1382403586;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.65725501 = 13.1451 BTC [-] {9} 355075;1382403645;mircea_popescu;ironically, they nuked themselves about 100x 355076;1382403668;mircea_popescu;in fact, the radiation the us has been and will be eating from fukushima is significantly over the radiation japan ate in ww2. 355077;1382403684;mircea_popescu;gives a whole new level of kamikaze./ 355078;1382404102;DIABLO-D3;IT IS GLORIOUS INTERNATIONAL CAPS LOCK DAY (OCTOBER 22ND, UTC MOTHERFUCKERS) 355079;1382404196;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 25 @ 0.64432391 = 16.1081 BTC [-] {6} 355080;1382404257;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 40554 @ 0.00015601 = 6.3268 BTC [-] {9} 355081;1382404379;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2729 @ 0.00015558 = 0.4246 BTC [-] {5} 355082;1382405402;mircea_popescu;My medical practice has gone off line. Effective yesterday, the computers that contain patients account information including billing diagnosis, have been completely de-linked from the internet. Therefore, your health information is completely secure. Accounting will be done in house with Quickbooks on a PC that is not connected to the internet." 355083;1382405406;mircea_popescu;airgapping ftw. 355084;1382405483;bloctoc;I think air gapping medical records is illegal since HIPAA 355085;1382405507;Bunnyh;http://bitbet.us/bet/537/bitstampusd-will-trade-at-a-higher-price-than/ why is this still pending resolution? and did the price on bitstamp go higher than mtgox on the 13th? 355086;1382405509;ozbot;BitBet - bitstampUSD will trade at a higher price than mtgoxUSD in 2013 355087;1382405583;mircea_popescu;Bunnyh possibly in part because nobody cared enough to ask so far 355088;1382405594;Bunnyh;ok. maybe i should use the bet comment field for asking these things instead, just trying to understand bitbet. i didn't even bet on that 355089;1382405693;mircea_popescu;np 355090;1382405868;mircea_popescu;Bunnyh so that bet was just created with a very early close date for some reason 355091;1382405878;mircea_popescu;you can specify a close date when you make bets. 355092;1382405981;Bunnyh;so it's actually intended by the bet creator that nobody can bet on it after oct 13th ? even though the bet might be unresolved until the end of the year 355093;1382406037;mircea_popescu;apparently. 355094;1382406471;mircea_popescu;http://www.myfoxny.com/Story/23746755/uruguay-official-legal-pot-for-1-per-gram 355095;1382406471;ozbot;Uruguay official: legal pot for $1 per gram - New York News 355096;1382406479;mircea_popescu;i guess uruguay is going to be the new silk road 355097;1382406501;Kleeck_;Get 'em Uruguay. 355098;1382407063;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 60 @ 0.00640927 = 0.3846 BTC [+] {2} 355099;1382407723;mircea_popescu;http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/silk-road-dealer-cooperating-567432 355100;1382407723;ozbot;Top Silk Road Drug Dealer Was Flipped By Feds | The Smoking Gun 355101;1382407958;mircea_popescu;http://i.cdn.turner.com/dr/teg/tsg/release/sites/default/files/assets/stevensadler.jpg < this dork is a top narcotics dealer. 355102;1382407967;Kleeck_;Oh, God. Not the Captain America shirt! 355103;1382407983;mircea_popescu;da fuck is going on over there. 355104;1382408005;Bunnyh;http://bitbet.us/bet/525/litecoin-to-fall-below-01-btc-before-2014/ is resolved but not paid. i have no problem waiting a bit, but just noticed the faq says "Resolution and payment of winners are simultaneous events." 355105;1382408006;ozbot;BitBet - Litecoin to fall below .01 BTC before 2014 355106;1382408037;mircea_popescu;Resolved: 1 hour 52 minutes ago (22-10-2013) 355107;1382408043;mircea_popescu;you kniow shit has to propagate etc. 355108;1382408086;Kleeck_;Referring to “unusual circumstances,” Woods noted that “through reasons unrelated to” Sadler, his cooperation “abruptly came to an end this morning.” Sadler’s lawyer told Tsuchida that her client was in “constant communication with the government.” 355109;1382408107;Kleeck_;Unusual circumstances... let me guess. A sex change? 355110;1382408131;Kleeck_;He wants to be known as Stephanie Saddler now. 355111;1382408155;Kleeck_;Stephanie Saladtossler. 355112;1382408233;mircea_popescu;wait, Jenna White ? 355113;1382408270;mircea_popescu;gotta be a name coincidence. 355114;1382408320;Kleeck_;LOL. ANd the one comment: Brad Dodge 355115;1382408320;Kleeck_;says - "don't do the crime if you can't do the time.... you rat..." 355116;1382408335;Kleeck_;Jeezus. 355117;1382408358;Kleeck_;How many illicit market places will pop up now? Let's get a bitbet for that set up. I'm guess no less than three new ones. 355118;1382408411;mircea_popescu;how would you verify it. 355119;1382408417;dexX7;http://finance.qq.com/a/20131021/014715.htm 2:04 355120;1382408466;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9460 @ 0.00087937 = 8.3188 BTC [+] 355121;1382408473;mircea_popescu;The cash shipment was headed for a $6 million dollar Bel Air home (7400-square-feet with five bedrooms and eight bathrooms) owned by Shapiros in-laws. Pictured at left, Shapiro declined to answer TSG questions about the package sent to him by Sadler. Until about a month again, Shapiro worked for the National Football League as an ad operations manager in the NFLs Culver City office. 355122;1382408476;mircea_popescu;they got some good stuff there. 355123;1382408697;bloctoc;"how would you verify it" How about mentioned in Rolling Stones magazine. 355124;1382408707;bloctoc;Rolling Stone 355125;1382408805;mircea_popescu;how much does that cost, 500 bux ? 355126;1382409259;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6995 BTC [+] 355127;1382409381;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.70999999 BTC [+] 355128;1382409640;phungus;< mircea_popescu> phungus> the original "Behind the Back Door" < you mean green door ? < No, I mean "Behind The Back Door". It was made in the 80's. HAWT 355129;1382410012;mircea_popescu;well i guess i gotta find it now. 355130;1382410015;mircea_popescu;i have no recollection 355131;1382410357;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 392 @ 0.00052527 = 0.2059 BTC [-] {5} 355132;1382410601;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 79 @ 0.0064081 = 0.5062 BTC [-] {2} 355133;1382410723;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 52 @ 0.00600814 = 0.3124 BTC [-] {2} 355134;1382411211;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2000 @ 0.00013403 = 0.2681 BTC [-] 355135;1382413529;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.70999999 = 1.42 BTC [+] {2} 355136;1382413956;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1735 @ 0.00013402 = 0.2325 BTC [-] 355137;1382414017;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 205 @ 0.00113 = 0.2317 BTC [-] 355138;1382414787;nubbins`;assembling zines, fun times 355139;1382415603;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.39 BTC [-] 355140;1382415664;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 56 @ 0.00673194 = 0.377 BTC [+] {2} 355141;1382419080;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 2013 @ 0.00113 = 2.2747 BTC [-] 355142;1382419202;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 81 @ 0.00673876 = 0.5458 BTC [+] {2} 355143;1382419264;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.66100003 BTC [-] 355144;1382419325;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.66 = 3.3 BTC [-] 355145;1382419385;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SMG] 8000 @ 0.00014237 = 1.139 BTC [-] {5} 355146;1382419507;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6201 BTC [-] 355147;1382419568;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.6201 = 1.8603 BTC [-] 355148;1382419629;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.61688001 = 3.0844 BTC [-] {4} 355149;1382420850;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.612101 BTC [-] 355150;1382420910;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.61208335 = 7.345 BTC [-] {4} 355151;1382420971;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.612 BTC [-] 355152;1382422069;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6138 @ 0.00087597 = 5.3767 BTC [-] 355153;1382422740;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 400 @ 0.00114979 = 0.4599 BTC [+] 355154;1382423106;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 95 @ 0.00114979 = 0.1092 BTC [+] 355155;1382423411;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 0.07 = 0.35 BTC [+] 355156;1382423953;taub;its going to a milllion!!! 355157;1382423964;taub;i could've should've done so much different 355158;1382423979;taub;i seriously had buy orders at the lows which i pulled last second 355159;1382425913;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 0.06999999 = 0.28 BTC [-] 355160;1382426706;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4536 @ 0.00087733 = 3.9796 BTC [+] 355161;1382426706;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 207 @ 0.00114979 = 0.238 BTC [+] 355162;1382427133;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 697 @ 0.0011499 = 0.8015 BTC [+] {2} 355163;1382427438;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 120 @ 0.00201794 = 0.2422 BTC [-] {3} 355164;1382428109;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.002006 = 0.2006 BTC [-] {2} 355165;1382428231;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 27 @ 0.00632 = 0.1706 BTC [+] 355166;1382429146;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 42 @ 0.00609883 = 0.2562 BTC [-] {8} 355167;1382429573;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 38 @ 0.00600038 = 0.228 BTC [-] {5} 355168;1382430122;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 41 @ 0.006 = 0.246 BTC [-] 355169;1382431586;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 73 @ 0.00571081 = 0.4169 BTC [-] {6} 355170;1382431647;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00566721 = 0.5667 BTC [-] {3} 355171;1382432318;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.00614999 = 0.1537 BTC [+] 355172;1382432928;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 6555 @ 0.00011993 = 0.7861 BTC [-] {2} 355173;1382435673;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 4000 @ 0.0011499 = 4.5996 BTC [+] 355174;1382435917;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1761 @ 0.00011993 = 0.2112 BTC [-] {2} 355175;1382438967;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.613 BTC [+] 355176;1382439394;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SMG] 6577 @ 0.0001402 = 0.9221 BTC [-] {2} 355177;1382439395;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.613 BTC [+] 355178;1382439537;bitesak;;;ticker 355179;1382439537;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 203.00000, Best ask: 203.10999, Bid-ask spread: 0.10999, Last trade: 203.11000, 24 hour volume: 32421.85068733, 24 hour low: 187.79998, 24 hour high: 205.50000, 24 hour vwap: 196.27046 355180;1382439760;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 282 @ 0.00210001 = 0.5922 BTC [+] {2} 355181;1382439882;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 476 @ 0.0021 = 0.9996 BTC [-] 355182;1382440004;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.613 BTC [+] 355183;1382440065;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.00200011 = 2.0001 BTC [-] {6} 355184;1382440066;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.611 BTC [-] 355185;1382440187;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 177 @ 0.002 = 0.354 BTC [-] 355186;1382440976;bitesak;;;next 355187;1382440977;gribble;See latest update from Onefixt here: https://twitter.com/BitcoinOracle/ 355188;1382441407;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61 BTC [-] 355189;1382441468;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 7101 @ 0.0019031 = 13.5139 BTC [-] {4} 355190;1382442139;assbot;[MPEX] [O] [O.USD.C200T] 7 @ 0.13863583 = 0.9705 BTC [-] 355191;1382443216;TATI;$5 spread on coinbase buy/sell price 355192;1382443237;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69348300 BTC to 1`386`966 shares, 50 satoshi per share 355193;1382443237;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.00596 = 0.2384 BTC [+] 355194;1382443238;TATI;(unusual) 355195;1382443238;kakobrekla;2$ on the cfds 355196;1382443273;dexX7;where are btc cfds traded? 355197;1382443289;TATI;satoshi square 355198;1382443292;kakobrekla;i was looking at ava trade before 355199;1382443334;kakobrekla;its 3bucks now 355200;1382443384;Sandu;is there any proof of US/China mining? 355201;1382443426;kleeck_;no 355202;1382443746;TATI;proof of what now? 355203;1382443755;TATI;the government? labcoin? 355204;1382443850;Troic;proof of government 355205;1382443897;Troic;http://trilema.com/2013/things-that-matter-these-days-things-that-dont-matter-these-days/ 355206;1382443898;ozbot;Things that matter these days ; things that don’t matter these days. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mirce 355207;1382443908;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.123 BTC [-] 355208;1382444123;Sandu;why MP is not sharing the evidence? 355209;1382444518;assbot;[MPEX] [S.NSA] 900 @ 0.0002 = 0.18 BTC [-] 355210;1382444884;jurov;Sandu maybe evidence wrt china involvement is there in plain sight? 355211;1382444925;jurov;;;nethash 355212;1382444926;gribble;3040531.14261 355213;1382444946;jurov;3th . just btw. 355214;1382444974;jurov;no. it's 3000th :) 355215;1382444994;jurov;;;bc,stats 355216;1382444997;gribble;Current Blocks: 265303 | Current Difficulty: 2.677312494824211E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 266111 | Next Difficulty In: 808 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 9 hours, 8 minutes, and 17 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 373795571.281 | Estimated Percent Change: 39.61597 355217;1382445091;Sandu;is the dif spike evidence in itself? 355218;1382445142;Troic;circumstantial evidence ? 355219;1382445173;Sandu;this is not evidence 355220;1382445187;jurov;do you think that's all just kncminer? 355221;1382445209;Sandu;there are plenty of asic producers 355222;1382445372;assbot;[MPEX] [S.BBET] 1000 @ 0.00046 = 0.46 BTC [-] 355223;1382445450;Jere_Jones;There is a significant difference between the Chinese people getting into the mining game and the Chinese government getting into the mining game. The US people have been mining for years yet that does not mean the US government has ever set up a mining operation. The evidence would have to show governmental entities are responsible for at least some mining. 355224;1382445465;Troic;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=283820.0 355225;1382445467;ozbot;Estimate of ASIC pre-orders (6,000 to 8,000 TH/s by end of 2013) 355226;1382445925;jurov;anyway, that is of no concern to me who is mining 355227;1382445987;jurov;what's worse, that iDiff-Dec has to be priced around 0.3 BTC (difficulty 3e9) 355228;1382446038;Jere_Jones;I would argue that it does make a difference. 355229;1382446067;Jere_Jones;If private individuals were mining, profit is important. A government doesn't have that restriction. 355230;1382446198;jurov;orly, how many private miners do actually profit today? 355231;1382446205;Jere_Jones;I do. 355232;1382446290;jurov;actually i think chinese govt (or Party-affiliated entrepreneurs) can buy stuff from friedcat at manufacture price, won't have to pay market rates for electricity, etc.. and thus would be more profitable 355233;1382446295;Jere_Jones;But the moment I think mining is no longer profitable, I turn my machines off. Because mining, to me, is about the money. Mining to some people is about "securing the network", and that's ok. 355234;1382446316;Jere_Jones;Mining to a government will be about control and power. Profit is almost a non-concern. 355235;1382446317;asciilifeform;or, alternatively, destroying it. 355236;1382446357;jurov;Jere_Jones so you think you profit or you actually did the math for your machines? 355237;1382446360;Apocalyptic;destroying is falls under power 355238;1382446362;Apocalyptic;*it 355239;1382446404;Jere_Jones;I have already made back the purchase price and the machines currently pay for their electricity. 355240;1382446430;jurov;okay, but i asked for profit, nor mere roi :) 355241;1382446434;jurov;*not mere roi 355242;1382446455;Jere_Jones;Profit means I get more out than I put in, right? 355243;1382446464;jurov;yes. at least in $. 355244;1382446480;Jere_Jones;I, currently, would be poorer if I turned them off. 355245;1382446553;Jere_Jones;I am profitable every day in BTC and $ with my mining. I expect that many people are. I'm not special. 355246;1382446584;Jere_Jones;The problem is getting into mining now is not, according to my maths, not going to be profitable. 355247;1382446733;jurov;omg all that you're saying is sooo vague... 355248;1382446752;jurov;let's have concrete example: say you borrowed $$$ a year ago and put them into asic preorder that was recently delivered 355249;1382446760;jurov;would you be richer or poorer now? 355250;1382446775;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.652 BTC [+] 355251;1382446823;Jere_Jones;I don't know of a single asic where that would be profitable 355252;1382446836;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6695 BTC [+] 355253;1382446850;Jere_Jones;But, also, there are no asics you could have preordered a year ago where you just got it. 355254;1382446877;Jere_Jones;Even BFL. A preorder a year ago would have been delivered months ago. 355255;1382446888;jurov;you see. so the profit motive just is not there and miners who are talking about profit are under self-delusion. 355256;1382446897;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.67338 = 3.3669 BTC [+] {3} 355257;1382446914;Jere_Jones;*New* miners who are talking about profit are self-delusional. I agree. 355258;1382446929;jurov;going in one year ago is not new 355259;1382446975;Jere_Jones;In the mining space, I'd say that a year ago is old school. When I say "new", I mean that you haven't purchased anything and are looking to start. 355260;1382447014;Jere_Jones;You could probably say that no machine purchased in the last month will ever be profitable (in BTC). 355261;1382447031;Jere_Jones;^ Correction: I would say that. You may or may not say that. :) 355262;1382447038;jurov;anyway, what i'm up to is: you compared profit motives of individuals vs. govt ... but there is no such thing with mining 355263;1382447058;Jere_Jones;I disagree. 355264;1382447068;Jere_Jones;I mine because it is profitable. 355265;1382447080;Jere_Jones;When it is no longer profitable, I will stop. 355266;1382447159;Jere_Jones;Profit *is* my motivation to mine. Except my usb block eruptor. I'll probably keep that guy going for ever... just 'cause. :) 355267;1382447186;kleeck_;My friends who went out and bought multicore processors for their mining rigs are really kicking themselves for mining at a loss those years ago. 355268;1382447192;kleeck_;Oh wait. No they aren't... 355269;1382447220;Jere_Jones;Future value of bitcoin does figure into my profit calculations. 355270;1382447228;kleeck_;Fair enough. 355271;1382447267;kleeck_;(Their investment was pretty small compared to modern asics, also. To be fair.) 355272;1382447332;jurov;it's hard to discuss when we have different definitions of profit. For me, profit is computed considering *whole* investment. 355273;1382447375;jurov;For Jere_Jones it's obviously only electricity. 355274;1382447389;kleeck_;Oh come on. Profit is clear: a financial gain, esp. the difference between the amount earned and the amount spent in buying, operating, or producing something. 355275;1382447395;kleeck_;This isn't a philosophical debate. 355276;1382447469;Jere_Jones;Concrete example: If I bought a batch 2 avalon for 80-ish btc. They have made back that 80-ish btc. They continue to make more $ than they cost in electricity. That, to me, is profitable. 355277;1382447500;jurov;Okay then. If. 355278;1382447538;kleeck_;That is absolutely profitable. Not just to you. 355279;1382447549;gecko_gs2;Let's just all agree that we gonna be rich 355280;1382447559;gecko_gs2;And get drinking 355281;1382447586;Jere_Jones;I think jurov has a very significant point that people starting to mine now can't claim profit as a motive because they will never make a profit. 355282;1382447594;kleeck_;shoo gecko_gs2, the grownups are talking. 355283;1382447616;Jere_Jones;Thus they are a) delusional, b) stupid, or c) have other motives. 355284;1382447618;gecko_gs2;Sry 355285;1382447629;gecko_gs2;Lemme get shitfaced 355286;1382447641;gecko_gs2;Then we'll talk 355287;1382447663;kleeck_;Jere_Jones, as per my CPU mining scenario, we can't really know that. You are correct that under current ROI calculations it is not profitable. However, if Bitcoin rises appropriately those individuals could see excellent return on their mining investment. 355288;1382447716;kleeck_;I know people who were mining at a loss back at the start. BTC wasn't worth the electricity and hardware. 355289;1382447728;kleeck_;Then, all of the sudden it was. Then it was worth much, much more. 355290;1382447773;Jere_Jones;Is it a profit if you paid for your gear in btc and never make that btc back? Even if the btc you earn is worth more $ than the btc you spent? 355291;1382447792;Jere_Jones;Buying and holding the btc would be more profitable. 355292;1382447799;dexX7;^ 355293;1382447868;kleeck_;That would be the difference between the current scenario and the CPU miners scenario. I don't think they really had a place to buy coins. 355294;1382447879;Jere_Jones;There are several reasons to sink mad amounts of cash into mining equipment, but profit due to pool mining isn't one of them. 355295;1382447882;kleeck_;Not that I recall, at least. 355296;1382447913;Jere_Jones;Back then it was OTC all the way. That was before my time though. 355297;1382447930;kleeck_;I thought it was silly. :) 355298;1382447951;kleeck_;Oh, neat, you have 1000 worthless 1s and 0s... 355299;1382447964;kleeck_;I just cry now. 355300;1382447965;Jere_Jones;That's what I think about the altcoins. :) 355301;1382447990;kleeck_;^ Yeah! Actually. The exact same way I feel about altcoins now is how I felt about btc then. 355302;1382448008;kleeck_;Does that mean I should start mining altcoins? 355303;1382448010;kleeck_;:P 355304;1382448041;Jere_Jones;I'm floored that dustcoin says mining btc is the most profitable right now. 355305;1382448087;kleeck_;How can that be? 355306;1382448098;Jere_Jones;http://dustcoin.com/mining 355307;1382448098;ozbot;Cryptocoin Mining Information, Profitability and Calculators 355308;1382448114;Jere_Jones;I'm trusting them to do the math right. I haven't done it myself. 355309;1382448135;Jere_Jones;Anyway, I have to take off. Thanks for the conversation, I enjoyed it. 355310;1382448141;kleeck_;Same. 355311;1382448143;kleeck_;Take care. 355312;1382448206;jurov;Thanks too! 355313;1382448971;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 0.06715 = 0.3358 BTC [-] 355314;1382449376;gecko_x2;ok kleeck 355315;1382449386;gecko_x2;working on the jamaican rum 355316;1382449391;gecko_x2;soon we'll talk :) 355317;1382449404;gecko_x2;like grownups 355318;1382449422;gecko_x2;get ready 355319;1382449429;gecko_x2;:D 355320;1382449724;jurov;cuz alcohol makes one an adult. right. 355321;1382449822;kakobrekla;no, thats cigs. 355322;1382449904;pankkake;smoking cigars is the first step toward homosexuality 355323;1382449913;pankkake;oh, I'm back to 13-20 ignores 355324;1382450103;gecko_x2;there we go 355325;1382450110;gecko_x2;4 very adult comments 355326;1382450116;gecko_x2;right off the bat :p 355327;1382450120;pankkake;butts 355328;1382450148;kakobrekla;tits 355329;1382450157;gecko_x2;i should eat something before we get going here :p 355330;1382450168;gecko_x2;brb 355331;1382450175;jurov;manboobs! 355332;1382450249;gecko_x2;mmm 355333;1382450267;jurov;mmm 355334;1382450277;gecko_x2;baby, i got the sauna ready 355335;1382450281;gecko_x2;wanna join? 355336;1382450296;jurov;is it designated secure? 355337;1382450302;gecko_x2;absolutely 355338;1382450306;jurov;ooh 355339;1382450314;gecko_x2;and it comes with a massage 355340;1382450679;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 140 @ 0.00114963 = 0.1609 BTC [+] {2} 355341;1382450834;bob__;;;nethash 355342;1382450835;gribble;3051328.76913 355343;1382451139;jurov;https://bitfunder.com/asset/CoinBr.iDiff-E December open for trading 355344;1382451242;gecko_x2;"LMAO. Yep. That's right. Some people are happy to go collect in the region of around $700,000. And no, I'm not tough, self employed investigators debt collectors are." 355345;1382451260;gecko_x2;i'm gonna have to agree with Mr. NineLives on this one 355346;1382451289;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 92 @ 0.00111 = 0.1021 BTC [-] 355347;1382451534;gecko_x2;if i could get out with 50% loss at this point i would 355348;1382451545;gecko_x2;at 95%, it doesn't matter 355349;1382451581;gecko_x2;but nevertheless, sam's actions are despicable 355350;1382451588;gecko_x2;and someone is gonna react 355351;1382451603;gecko_x2;if i were this sam guy i'd pay back the remaining funds and fucking vanish 355352;1382451607;gecko_x2;right now 355353;1382451638;gecko_x2;for me personally it's only about 10 btc so i dun care 355354;1382451643;gecko_x2;but someone will 355355;1382451655;gecko_x2;man i'd be so gone if i were sam 355356;1382452546;gecko_x2;i'm thinking this whole labcoin operation could be a ff operation by the illuminati 355357;1382452587;gecko_x2;and spare me the fucking ridicule 355358;1382452597;jurov;you're outdoing yourself today 355359;1382452612;gecko_x2;the illuminati is real, and bitcoin is fucking right in the middle of the radar 355360;1382452620;gecko_x2;that's fact 355361;1382452633;gecko_x2;everyone here is known to them 355362;1382452640;the20year;yep 355363;1382452647;the20year;and they're using HAARP to hack your brains 355364;1382452649;gecko_x2;physical address, full med history, place of birth 355365;1382452653;jurov;we are the new world order! 355366;1382452659;gecko_x2;doon't be fucking naive 355367;1382452678;jurov;you think mircea is one of them? 355368;1382452684;the20year;It's a fact 355369;1382452685;deadweasel;don't be a drunk dickhead, gecko_x2 355370;1382452687;gecko_x2;no clue 355371;1382452693;gecko_x2;i'm not 355372;1382452699;jcpham;my vagina hurts from reading 355373;1382452701;the20year;He's one of their shills, trying to spread disinformation 355374;1382452703;gecko_x2;how many times do we have to go through this 355375;1382452716;jurov;if you have no clue on mp, where are your "facts", then? 355376;1382452717;gecko_x2;at first it's just 'conspiracy theory' 355377;1382452722;gecko_x2;then it becomes real 355378;1382452730;the20year;or it stays one 355379;1382452735;the20year;Remember hybrid corn in the 30s? 355380;1382452735;gecko_x2;i have no clue on MP 355381;1382452737;gecko_x2;none 355382;1382452741;jurov;yes! let's start illuminati cell 355383;1382452757;the20year;Hybrid corn was going to kill every single person in the US when they introduced it in 1930, and only those who consumed heirloom corn would die 355384;1382452764;gecko_x2;it's time to wake up ppl 355385;1382452765;the20year;err only heirloom eaters would live 355386;1382452772;gecko_x2;information means shit 355387;1382452777;jurov;what's the program supposed to be? managed depopulation? i guess we can manage it 355388;1382452781;gecko_x2;things that happen means shit 355389;1382452794;gecko_x2;i knew this reaction would come 355390;1382452796;gecko_x2;immediately 355391;1382452805;gecko_x2;it makes me more convinced 355392;1382452818;gecko_x2;you need to learn psychology 355393;1382452833;gecko_x2;and how information acts through time 355394;1382452862;kakobrekla;you need to learn reverse psychology :) 355395;1382452864;the20year;that the thousands of conspiracy theories that falter are forgot? 355396;1382452888;gecko_x2;in the past 6 months you've all learned that the NSA have gigantic computers with string theory shit that knows all about you 355397;1382452898;jurov;honestly, i have no problem to believe in anything. but even bilderberg group turned to harmless circlejerk 355398;1382452904;the20year;I'm not saying that every conspiracy is wrong, but plenty of them are, enough so that every single one needs to be heavily debated 355399;1382452910;gecko_x2;and still you sit here and argue like this was some kind of kindergarden game 355400;1382452913;gecko_x2;it's not 355401;1382452923;the20year;gecko, since patriot act was inacted the government essentially had a license to do that 355402;1382452923;gecko_x2;bitcoin is dangerous 355403;1382452937;jurov;circlejerk isn't kindergarten game, so much i admit 355404;1382452943;Apocalyptic;no doubt it is gecko_x2 355405;1382452944;the20year;because those computers can track every single transaction? Seems pretty beneficial to the NSA to me 355406;1382452945;gecko_x2;bitcoin is like a silver bullet for the werewolves 355407;1382452962;the20year;It's easier to track the flow of money via bitcoin than it is paper money 355408;1382452998;the20year;If the NSA is truly all encompassing, then they have every single IP and mac address that a bitcoin could flow through, and a nearly infinite amount of laundering won't fix that 355409;1382453014;gecko_x2;absolutely they have lol 355410;1382453020;gecko_x2;absolutely 355411;1382453037;gecko_x2;you need to learn how to logically deduct information 355412;1382453040;the20year;Same NSA that has broken nearly every type of encryption can't grab IPs and use them to find MAC addresses off of providers? 355413;1382453062;gecko_x2;the reason for all the news about snowden and NSA is not to 'reveal' something 355414;1382453073;Apocalyptic;"<the20year> Same NSA that has broken nearly every type of encryption" really dude ? 355415;1382453078;the20year;The same NSA that has spread malware and viruses to grab such information? 355416;1382453090;gecko_x2;it is to program our subconscious minds to realize that there is nothing we can do 355417;1382453093;the20year;Apocalyptic: they've got backdoors to just about everything 355418;1382453106;Apocalyptic;shit my gnupg is backdoored 355419;1382453107;gecko_x2;that they have awesome power and we must submit 355420;1382453135;the20year;Apocalyptic: if you're connected to the internet, then they know who you are 355421;1382453139;gecko_x2;the NSA have specialized teams for every OS out there 355422;1382453149;gecko_x2;they called them 'Tailored Access Group' 355423;1382453152;the20year;and somehow the magic bitcoin has foiled them for good 355424;1382453157;gecko_x2;they can't break strong crypto 355425;1382453160;deadweasel;gecko_x2, are you going to do anythign about it besides flail around in tin-foil clothing and cowboy hats in IRC? 355426;1382453167;the20year;Except if they have quantum computers, they can 355427;1382453170;gecko_x2;but endpoint security is so weak they don't have to 355428;1382453190;gecko_x2;they have audio and timing data on every keyboard ever manufactured 355429;1382453202;the20year;but they can't track your bitcoins? 355430;1382453212;Apocalyptic;<gecko_x2> they have audio and timing data on every keyboard ever manufactured // now we reach a new level 355431;1382453228;deadweasel;how far down the rabbit hole do we go today? 355432;1382453235;gecko_x2;they can decode what you are typing on your keyboard in realtime by measuring the tiny vibrations of the soundwaves your keyboard makes from the surface of the window in your room 355433;1382453238;gecko_x2;from space. 355434;1382453240;gecko_x2;in realtime 355435;1382453245;gecko_x2;wake the fuck up. 355436;1382453246;deadweasel;probably, so what? 355437;1382453274;gecko_x2;Apocalyptic new level? they were doing this in the fucking 50's 355438;1382453282;jurov;they decode and manage all of your brainwaves. HA! you can't outdo that! 355439;1382453285;naemsi;measuring soundwaves from space would be a feat. 355440;1382453293;deadweasel;i'm awake, I knew about this in 1990 when the programs started. I acted like you for about 9 years until I alienated everyone I loved by trying to 'SAVE THEM FROM THE GOVERNMENTS' 355441;1382453297;deadweasel;So what are you trying to accomplish? 355442;1382453302;kakobrekla;yet they still dont clean up my desktop 355443;1382453305;kakobrekla;fuckers 355444;1382453310;deadweasel;lazy fuckers 355445;1382453314;gecko_x2;there is official domumentation on how they acquire every model of typewriter manufactured in the world in the 50's 355446;1382453320;deadweasel;so fucking what? 355447;1382453328;gecko_x2;and analyse them so that they can trace any letter ever written 355448;1382453336;gecko_x2;this is NOTHING NEW 355449;1382453339;deadweasel;exactly 355450;1382453349;gecko_x2;these guys are NOT STUPID 355451;1382453370;deadweasel;so what's your point? We all realize the current situation. We also realize the liklihood of being targeted is directly tied to what actions we take on their 'turf 355452;1382453382;gecko_x2;true 355453;1382453384;deadweasel;or areas they have targeted. 355454;1382453391;gecko_x2;my point here is just don't be naive 355455;1382453399;gecko_x2;don't think this is a game 355456;1382453423;gecko_x2;after 20 years something you type in the forums or here might come back and haunt you 355457;1382453431;deadweasel;I'm not. I believe everything that happens on a keyboard with my hands is in their datastore. I also believe they won't look at it until some automated system pops me as suspcious enough to investigate 355458;1382453437;gecko_x2;they will store and analyse everything 355459;1382453439;deadweasel;gecko_x2: I realize that, I don't like it. 355460;1382453442;deadweasel;but it's done. 355461;1382453469;deadweasel;20 yr down the line I should have my own property... They are welcome to come talk to me about my forum posts from 20 years before.... 355462;1382453474;deadweasel;but it's not going to happen. 355463;1382453479;deadweasel;statute of limitations for one. 355464;1382453491;gecko_x2;deadweasel well that's where you are wrong, once they decide they want to get rid of you, they can use the data 355465;1382453494;gecko_x2;and they will 355466;1382453501;gecko_x2;but not for LOGICAL reasons 355467;1382453502;the20year;so i'm curious , if the NSA can read your typing from space, how come they didn't get snowden's? 355468;1382453504;gecko_x2;but POLITICAL 355469;1382453523;deadweasel;gecko_x2: the government is not as efficient as you seem to believe. 355470;1382453523;gecko_x2;the20year because snowden is a ff op 355471;1382453528;gecko_x2;it's a psyop 355472;1382453532;gecko_x2;they WANT you to know this 355473;1382453543;gecko_x2;because it makes you AN ANIMAL 355474;1382453545;jurov;then you are a psyuop, too! 355475;1382453555;gecko_x2;it makes your brain work like the brain of a DOG 355476;1382453568;gecko_x2;it makes you locked in as a slave 355477;1382453569;the20year;But since you stopped taking your meds, you can think clearly now 355478;1382453575;gecko_x2;it takes away your humanity 355479;1382453581;gecko_x2;they are harvesting souls 355480;1382453585;gecko_x2;that's what they do 355481;1382453601;gecko_x2;it's very very hard to resist it 355482;1382453604;deadweasel;'they' are now harvesting souls? 355483;1382453605;gecko_x2;extremely hard 355484;1382453620;jurov;gecko_x2: you are a psy op. get away 355485;1382453622;deadweasel;I just found mine, so I'm not giving it up no how. 355486;1382453623;gecko_x2;you must be so fucking strong 355487;1382453655;deadweasel;i'm sorry, you lost me.... when you started talking. 355488;1382453657;Apocalyptic;<deadweasel> 'they' are now harvesting souls? // sure they di 355489;1382453658;Apocalyptic;*do 355490;1382453671;gecko_x2;yet you happily buy your food with symbols they create 355491;1382453681;gecko_x2;and never ask why you get something for nothing 355492;1382453685;deadweasel;I did see a new tractor called the Soul-Harvester 540D. Diesel powered. 355493;1382453695;the20year;i don't use foodstamps, so i don't get food for free 355494;1382453700;deadweasel;gecko_x2: we have all asked those questions, it's why we are in this room. 355495;1382453706;deadweasel;doesn't mean we have many choices. 355496;1382453708;gecko_x2;the dollar bills are the symbols 355497;1382453709;deadweasel;to feeding ourselves. 355498;1382453721;gecko_x2;yea i know i know 355499;1382453722;the20year;then pay with change 355500;1382453732;Apocalyptic;deadweasel, go harvest some roots and feed yourself 355501;1382453732;gecko_x2;that's why i even bother to irritate you 355502;1382453741;gecko_x2;because i know here it might make a difference 355503;1382453753;gecko_x2;don't get me wrong, i'm not trying to antagonize 355504;1382453768;gecko_x2;just someone might get a clue and go study for themselves 355505;1382453771;deadweasel;well, except for your unprovable statements (which I don't want to go over), I agree with you mostly. 355506;1382453780;deadweasel;The trend is correct... 355507;1382453786;gecko_x2;yeah 355508;1382453791;gecko_x2;i don't know everything 355509;1382453799;gecko_x2;i'm just a fucking slave like you 355510;1382453808;gecko_x2;so.. 355511;1382453864;gecko_x2;i believe they will lose. 355512;1382453868;gecko_x2;that's my point 355513;1382453875;deadweasel;ok. agreed. 355514;1382453877;gecko_x2;i believe they are failing right now 355515;1382453891;gecko_x2;in the end, the ppl will rise up and get rid of them 355516;1382453912;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 34 @ 0.00578852 = 0.1968 BTC [-] {2} 355517;1382453925;gecko_x2;ok.. gecko:out for now :) 355518;1382453929;deadweasel;adios. 355519;1382453937;gecko_x2;thx for putting up wif my rant :D 355520;1382453960;the20year;maybe you could move to detroit, no one would find you there 355521;1382454007;jurov;if *that* would be so easy... seems around here we have sizeable group of peeps who believe there is powerful homosexual lobby, that wants to: 355522;1382454014;gecko_x2;the20year just remember, 'The Declaration of Independence' is not the complete name of the original bill 355523;1382454022;jurov;1. enforce freedom to choose your sex 355524;1382454039;gecko_x2;the original name was 'declaration of independence from the brittish bankers' 355525;1382454042;jurov;2. take away childern from heterosexual families and give them to homosexuals and pedophiles 355526;1382454069;the20year;Where's proof of that gecko_ 355527;1382454084;gecko_x2;the20year dun have it right now.. sry 355528;1382454085;jurov;3. start compulsory sexual education starting in kindergardens that will learn nasturbation and sexual deviations 355529;1382454089;gecko_x2;i could try to find 355530;1382454091;the20year;Because google isn't showing anything 355531;1382454099;gecko_x2;but too much on the todo list atm 355532;1382454104;gecko_x2;lol 355533;1382454110;gecko_x2;ofcourse it isn't 355534;1382454114;jurov;so that majority of population will be homosexuals or deviants 355535;1382454122;gecko_x2;there is an audio file on the net 355536;1382454133;gecko_x2;if i find it i'll link 355537;1382454176;kakobrekla;are you alex jones ? 355538;1382454179;jurov;gecko_x2: read what i have written, can you believe that? 355539;1382454196;gecko_x2;jurov absolutelyu 355540;1382454201;gecko_x2;u 355541;1382454207;gecko_x2;it's all part of the plot 355542;1382454229;gecko_x2;my speciality is the fact that right now 355543;1382454231;gecko_x2;in this chan 355544;1382454234;gecko_x2;on this day 355545;1382454238;gecko_x2;we are discussing this 355546;1382454241;gecko_x2;seriously 355547;1382454250;gecko_x2;that is extremely relevant 355548;1382454266;gecko_x2;when you consider what information is, how the human mass psyche works 355549;1382454278;gecko_x2;that gives us a roadmap 355550;1382454289;gecko_x2;the very fact that this convo is taking place 355551;1382454294;gecko_x2;in itself is proof 355552;1382454308;gecko_x2;the truth always acts in certain ways 355553;1382454315;gecko_x2;it spreads like a virus 355554;1382454330;gecko_x2;until it reaches a tipping point 355555;1382454333;jurov;while lies stay hidden? 355556;1382454351;gecko_x2;in the beginning it's just a few 'cooks' 355557;1382454353;jurov;i see you're truly an expert 355558;1382454356;gecko_x2;think about it 355559;1382454360;gecko_x2;2 years ago 355560;1382454384;gecko_x2;the shit they write about snowden and the NSA today would have seemed incredibly stupid 355561;1382454389;gecko_x2;today 355562;1382454398;gecko_x2;it's fucking daily stuff 355563;1382454404;gecko_x2;that is the process 355564;1382454420;gecko_x2;that is the humman mass subconscious psyce at work 355565;1382454427;gecko_x2;sry 4 typos 355566;1382454499;jurov;i *did* consider such stuff. for several years and came up with markedly different outcomes 355567;1382454527;jurov;would not be productive to discuss them with you 355568;1382454535;jurov;i'll just ask you to consider this: http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/the-fireplace-delusion 355569;1382454551;jurov;nice example how really the delusions work 355570;1382454558;gecko_x2;jurov ok i'll read 355571;1382454574;gecko_x2;but if ur not familiar, and this might be a poorly chosen link 355572;1382454587;gecko_x2;but if you haven't watched, here's just a short 5 min explanation 355573;1382454589;gecko_x2;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAMiNTC7HOM 355574;1382454590;ozbot;Former KGB Agent Explains how Elites Brainwash The Pulic from reality - YouTube 355575;1382454766;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 4 @ 0.13300025 = 0.532 BTC [+] {2} 355576;1382454888;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10000 @ 0.00012261 = 1.2261 BTC [-] {9} 355577;1382455071;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 143 @ 0.0058 = 0.8294 BTC [+] 355578;1382455075;jcpham;why is someone always ranting in this channel 355579;1382455076;kakobrekla;http://www.techspot.com/news/54179-john-mcafee-is-developing-a-100-device-to-block-the-nsa.html 355580;1382455076;ozbot;John McAfee is developing a $100 device to block the NSA - TechSpot 355581;1382455085;jcpham;is it the same person using different nicks 355582;1382455263;jurov;what? you think it's the same as s.nsa? 355583;1382455347;gecko_x2;i've been ranting on efent for over 20 years now 355584;1382455355;gecko_x2;i have logs of everything 355585;1382455361;gecko_x2;efnet* 355586;1382455376;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 62 @ 0.00579 = 0.359 BTC [-] 355587;1382455382;gecko_x2;if i'm a change agent, then so be it 355588;1382455397;gecko_x2;all i know is i'm gonna keep ranting until i die 355589;1382455416;gecko_x2;i have already given up everything normal ppl value 355590;1382455431;gecko_x2;family, friends, reputation, ownership 355591;1382455450;gecko_x2;and i've never felt more alive 355592;1382455459;gecko_x2;i own nothing 355593;1382455477;gecko_x2;except a few bitcoins and alittle gold and silver 355594;1382455499;gecko_x2;i have basically no contact with my family except for 1 355595;1382455508;gecko_x2;i have no friends 355596;1382455512;gecko_x2;no career 355597;1382455519;gecko_x2;no nothing 355598;1382455540;gecko_x2;so if i'm a subversive change agent, i'm not aware myself 355599;1382455545;bitesak;kakobrekla: Do you know how that mcafee is different to the pirate box: http://daviddarts.com/piratebox/?title=PirateBox 355600;1382455559;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 57 @ 0.00566 = 0.3226 BTC [-] {3} 355601;1382455561;kakobrekla;dunno 355602;1382455638;jurov;afaik mcafee does connect to internet 355603;1382455911;gecko_x2;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEqFRznSNAs 355604;1382455911;ozbot;Cheek - Parempi mies feat. Samuli Edelmann - YouTube 355605;1382455987;bitesak;doesn't seem like Internet connected, "Everyone in those three blocks can then communicate with each other and that will obviously change as users move in and out of a local area." 355606;1382456080;TomServo;jurov: Seems extremely silly to try and draw a fireplace/smoking analogy with no mention of frequency. 355607;1382456099;TomServo;But I must be delusional. 355608;1382456106;jurov;no, you just missed a point 355609;1382456147;TomServo;Was the point not that it's hard for people to accept that a fire can be harmful? 355610;1382456190;jurov;yes. and you try to rationalize it away..."oh but if it's not often it's okay" 355611;1382456251;gecko_x2;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECdEma31Od8 355612;1382456251;ozbot;Salem - King Diamond - YouTube 355613;1382456299;nubbins`;hi 355614;1382456311;jcpham;turn around and leave now nubbins` 355615;1382456315;jcpham;while you still can! 355616;1382456340;nubbins`;D: 355617;1382456343;jurov;utter madness lurks here! 355618;1382456347;nubbins`;DDDDD: 355619;1382456355;nubbins`;wiat 355620;1382456358;nubbins`;i mean, wait 355621;1382456360;nubbins`;i'm mad too 355622;1382456556;pankkake;http://blog.coinbase.com/post/64702087626/we-just-released-magento-and-zencart-plugins 355623;1382456556;ozbot;We Just Released Magento and ZenCart Plugins - The Coinbase Blog 355624;1382457392;ThickAsThieves;BIPS is integrating with BigCommerce too 355625;1382459097;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.60787776 = 5.4709 BTC [-] {6} 355626;1382459963;gecko_x2;why is mp's client cycling? 355627;1382459981;gecko_x2;did the illuminati finally get to him? 355628;1382460073;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 98 @ 0.00224967 = 0.2205 BTC [+] {3} 355629;1382460249;the20year;yes 355630;1382460500;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 190 @ 0.0056906 = 1.0812 BTC [-] {10} 355631;1382460561;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.0011499 = 0.115 BTC [+] 355632;1382461169;gecko_x2;mp you are the illuminist zionist elitist globalist scum? 355633;1382461182;gecko_x2;if not, prease press 1 355634;1382461322;mircea_popescu;im not zionist 355635;1382461328;mircea_popescu;and what's illuminist mean ? 355636;1382461395;gecko_x2;:D 355637;1382461406;gecko_x2;wb man 355638;1382461422;gecko_x2;we were worried about you 355639;1382461462;gecko_x2;you're client was cycling on our asses 355640;1382461479;gecko_x2;and we didn't know if the CIA got you in the bathtub 355641;1382461512;gecko_x2;your* 355642;1382461551;deadweasel;please, don't lump me into your crazy ideas. 355643;1382461555;deadweasel;;P 355644;1382461561;gecko_x2;sry 355645;1382461578;deadweasel;just had to take another whack at you, you're all hanging out today! 355646;1382461595;jurov;dead weasel in the bathtub 355647;1382461607;deadweasel;jamaican rum. Clear liquors are for rich women on diets. 355648;1382461616;deadweasel;- Ron Swanson 355649;1382462532;nubbins`;i want to see someone running 49 printers off one of those asicminer hubs 355650;1382462646;pankkake;now to find someone with 49 printers (bernanke?) 355651;1382462650;taub;;premium bitstamp mtgox 355652;1382462663;taub;,premium bitstamp mtgox 355653;1382462663;pankkake;;;premium bitstamp mtgox 355654;1382462665;gribble;bitstamp premium over mtgox is currently -3.80669144981 %. 355655;1382462668;taub;ty 355656;1382462670;taub;well that has shrunk 355657;1382462675;taub;did they open deposits back up? 355658;1382462677;pankkake;wow, close. I might lose that bitbet :/ 355659;1382462695;pankkake;if true good news anyway… 355660;1382462712;taub;i dont know i can live with outit 355661;1382462773;taub;without gox that is 355662;1382463008;nubbins`;sure you can 355663;1382463012;nubbins`;gox is for squares 355664;1382463283;jerrys1;hello 355665;1382463322;jerrys1;can anyone help me determine this chart http://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/mtgox/btcusd on the bottom right there is green/red box which is 'trades' 355666;1382463338;jerrys1;the colors are green and red. It seems gree/red is not buy/sell but some other relationship 355667;1382463353;jerrys1;where can one see the buys completed and the sells completed or how does it work? 355668;1382463408;bob__;green/red is the price went up or the price went down. 355669;1382463438;jerrys1;but sometimes i see like. red 185. red 185 green 185 355670;1382463439;jerrys1;wtf? 355671;1382463509;bob__;hah, yeah. wtf indeed. 355672;1382463509;jerrys1;right now there is: red 201.75 green 202 green 201.9994 green 201.9993 green 202 355673;1382463554;jerrys1;ok another question. are the bids/asks ever met in the middle? 355674;1382463582;jerrys1;or if i place 20btc for ask at 205$ USD itl always stay like that until someone buys it? 355675;1382463605;jerrys1;and if I want to buy btc. I can buy your 20btc at 205$ USD OR i can place an Ask for say 20 BTC at $200 USD? 355676;1382463672;mircea_popescu;gecko_gs2 im sick. 355677;1382463692;gecko_x2;:( 355678;1382463709;gecko_x2;just the flu i hope? 355679;1382463727;mircea_popescu;yeah something like that 355680;1382463778;jurov;gecko_x2: and have you read trilema today? quite a piece has appeared 355681;1382463886;gecko_x2;i haven't 355682;1382463938;gecko_x2;to be honest i have a bunch of trileman pages constantly open in my browser, but lately haven't been able to read because they are too brilliant for my current state of mind, which dwells in shit and misery 355683;1382463948;gecko_x2;:\ 355684;1382463953;gecko_x2;but someday i will read 355685;1382463963;jurov;exactly this one is well suited to your misery 355686;1382463971;gecko_x2;that girl is beautiful 355687;1382463997;gecko_x2;link then plz 355688;1382464014;jurov;it basically says that since we, as a culture, decided to deprecate rape, we're all dooomed 355689;1382464029;gecko_x2;hmm 355690;1382464054;gecko_x2;i'm still working on the airgap and cardano articles 355691;1382464094;jurov;oh, nevermind then. such a sudden change of context would you do no good. 355692;1382464101;gecko_x2;but that girl makes me want to be born again with some other genes than my current finnish shit genes 355693;1382464117;gecko_x2;yeah jurov, but i'll keep that in mind 355694;1382464119;gecko_x2;thx 355695;1382464179;phungus;< mircea_popescu> and what's illuminist mean ? 355696;1382464185;phungus;part of the illuminati 355697;1382464224;phungus;aka, part of the evil satanic cult cladestinely controlling world events as puppet masters 355698;1382464229;phungus;:-) 355699;1382464270;jurov;phungus, you'll better read trilema, too. to know who is the vile one around xD 355700;1382464465;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 188 @ 0.00223999 = 0.4211 BTC [-] 355701;1382464693;gecko_x2;wtf 355702;1382464699;gecko_x2;where did the girl go 355703;1382464707;gecko_x2;are u deleting posts mp? 355704;1382464741;jurov;calm down. trilema frontpage shows different random post every time 355705;1382464753;gecko_x2;oic 355706;1382464765;gecko_x2;i closed the tab and now i miss her 355707;1382464773;gecko_x2;:( 355708;1382464784;mircea_popescu;phungus sounded more like part of illuminisme 355709;1382464811;gecko_x2;could u link back to the pic? 355710;1382464831;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 590 @ 0.0011499 = 0.6784 BTC [+] 355711;1382464849;mircea_popescu;jurov i live to please :D 355712;1382464895;gecko_x2;to be honest, i find trilema extremely interesting, but having been without marihuana now for a few weeks 355713;1382464908;gecko_x2;i have issues with concentration 355714;1382464931;gecko_x2;so i've just left the tabs open for a better day 355715;1382464943;jurov;i guess trilema is best read in designated secure sauna 355716;1382464975;gecko_x2;yes and remember, if you fuck with me, i'll take you behind the sauna :p 355717;1382464982;gecko_x2;and we all know what happens there 355718;1382464994;gecko_x2;;] 355719;1382465001;jurov;frolicking in the snow! 355720;1382465083;jurov;http://www.flickr.com/photos/mickchicago/5346108999/ 355721;1382465084;ozbot;Grey Squirrels Frolicking in the snow | Flickr - Photo Sharing 355722;1382465100;gecko_x2;nah jurov 355723;1382465116;gecko_x2;behind the saune means bullet through your skull usually 355724;1382465119;gecko_x2;in this country 355725;1382465121;gecko_x2;:p 355726;1382465152;gecko_x2;but dun worry just kiddin 355727;1382465158;gecko_x2;still looking for that pic 355728;1382465162;gecko_x2;i lost it 355729;1382465165;Sandu;mircea_popescu how do you know that the yanks and the chinese are mining? 355730;1382465174;gecko_x2;even browser history won't help me 355731;1382465221;gecko_x2;:( 355732;1382465318;gecko_x2;guess it shall forever remain as a shadow in my memories then 355733;1382465327;gecko_x2;but she was beautiful 355734;1382465420;gecko_x2;trilema is hard to read because i need to pause after each sentence 355735;1382465443;gecko_x2;it's not something you read as usual 355736;1382465472;gecko_x2;as in glaze over the first few words and then deduct the rest in your mind while jumping to the next paragraph 355737;1382465484;gecko_x2;like you read most of the crap nowadays 355738;1382465506;mircea_popescu;Sandu that has not been released so far. 355739;1382465553;nubbins`;that's tantalizing 355740;1382465630;gecko_x2;mircea_popescu did i meantion that i despise my own country and the ppl in it? 355741;1382465635;gecko_x2;not a good place to be. 355742;1382465646;Sandu;mircea_popescu by yourself, you mean 355743;1382465681;jurov;gecko_x2: so move elsewhere... especially since you boasted you don't have any property nor family ties... 355744;1382465720;gecko_x2;jurov i just returned from 8 years abroad 355745;1382465738;mircea_popescu;Sandu you were asking me. 355746;1382465747;gecko_x2;nothing is free in this life 355747;1382465766;Sandu;mircea_popescu so why aren't you releasing it? 355748;1382465772;gecko_x2;and i find this place absolutely appalling 355749;1382465783;mircea_popescu;surprisingly... that also hasn;'t been released so far. 355750;1382465805;gecko_x2;ppl here live like dogs, threat others as dogs, and are totally unaware that they are doing so 355751;1382465834;gecko_x2;that's what extreme socialism and collectivism does to a human mind 355752;1382465859;KRS1-;coinbase = mtgox (almost) 355753;1382465917;Sandu;last one, haha 355754;1382465933;Sandu;and why exactly hasn't it been released so far? 355755;1382466077;the20year;http://www.reddit.com/r/litecoin/comments/1oz585/next_low_for_ltc_is_coming/ 355756;1382466077;ozbot;Next low for LTC is coming : litecoin 355757;1382466539;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 13 @ 0.0706923 = 0.919 BTC [+] {2} 355758;1382466749;gecko_x2;fuck this fucking shit :( 355759;1382466757;gecko_x2;sry.. i'm wenting 355760;1382466776;gecko_x2;don't ever set foot in finland gais 355761;1382466790;gecko_x2;it's true hell on earth 355762;1382467054;KRS1-;screw finland..what are they good for anyway 355763;1382467065;KRS1-;stuck up pricks... 355764;1382467156;gecko_x2;that's right 355765;1382467157;gecko_x2;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_tORtmKIjE 355766;1382467157;ozbot;The Bard`s Song (Studio) - YouTube 355767;1382467199;deadweasel;gecko_x2, you may want to balance your worldview with some positives. There is good in this world, albeit it exists in evil's shadow. 355768;1382467209;deadweasel;but it is there. 355769;1382467229;gecko_x2;yes mas i know 355770;1382467237;gecko_x2;you need to understand 355771;1382467249;gecko_x2;just spent the best years of my life away 355772;1382467261;gecko_x2;returned only to find this horror 355773;1382467277;deadweasel;nothing is wasted is if you learned something. 355774;1382467282;pankkake;http://gotinsurancecolorado.org/ look for "spread the word" 355775;1382467284;ozbot;Got Insurance 355776;1382467289;gecko_x2;right again 355777;1382467311;deadweasel;so if you came back to horror, become the only positive thing there. It will grow. 355778;1382467363;deadweasel;help those in need, they will improve, you will be happier than simply ranting about the issues -- which makes me terribly depresesd, if I recall years 12-24. 355779;1382467366;KRS1-;gecko_x2 good song 355780;1382467400;gecko_x2;sry deadweasel, i'm planning to get the fuck away from here again 355781;1382467426;gecko_x2;just means i have to disappoint my few remaining friendly souls once again 355782;1382467427;deadweasel;don't apologise to me. I'm just trying to talk to the 'me' that might be in you right now. it's very familiar. 355783;1382467430;gecko_x2;it's not easy 355784;1382467448;gecko_x2;but this shit just aini't worth it 355785;1382467450;deadweasel;everything you know will be destroyed before you come out the other side. this is the process. 355786;1382467455;gecko_x2;these ppl are DOGS 355787;1382467457;deadweasel;love it 355788;1382467473;gecko_x2;i heard that man 355789;1382467482;gecko_x2;i hear you 355790;1382467484;deadweasel;then, from the ashes... who knows? 355791;1382467522;deadweasel;anyway, I hear you too gecko_x2 ... i know it. 355792;1382467528;deadweasel;it can be overwhelming and ugly. 355793;1382467537;deadweasel;at least you are seeking 355794;1382467540;deadweasel;:) 355795;1382467573;gecko_x2;yea 355796;1382467589;Sandu;<Sandu> mircea_popescu how do you know that the yanks and the chinese are mining? 355797;1382467605;gecko_x2;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTO1n7GNXyM 355798;1382467606;ozbot;Dio - Holy Diver - YouTube 355799;1382467651;Sandu;I've pasted my previous msg by mistake, nevermind it 355800;1382468640;gecko_x2;k gais here goes a real cheesy one.. don't jufge 355801;1382468643;gecko_x2;judge 355802;1382468647;gecko_x2;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CrvHg-3jFk 355803;1382468647;ozbot;MAGNUM - Don't Wake The Lion - (Too Old To Die Young) (LIVE 07) - YouTube 355804;1382468735;assbot;[MPEX] [O] [O.USD.C125T] 2 @ 0.34413722 = 0.6883 BTC [+] 355805;1382469101;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 0.0738999 = 0.2217 BTC [+] 355806;1382469387;gecko_x2;nice.. followed by this 355807;1382469388;gecko_x2;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHz-JqYRSu8 355808;1382469388;ozbot;Dream Theater- Space-Dye Vest - YouTube 355809;1382469402;gecko_x2;i'm sentimental because i made up my mind 355810;1382469419;gecko_x2;to leave my country of birth for good 355811;1382469509;deadweasel;where to? 355812;1382469521;gecko_x2;no clue atm 355813;1382469526;gecko_x2;don't make any diff 355814;1382469536;gecko_x2;i know my first stop 355815;1382469539;gecko_x2;that's it 355816;1382469578;gecko_x2;gonna live on my it knowledge, my knowledge of gold bullion coins, and my knowledge of 355817;1382469589;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 14 @ 0.07390495 = 1.0347 BTC [+] {2} 355818;1382469594;deadweasel;other places have problems too... so if it doesn't make any difference, why would you leave? 355819;1382469601;deadweasel;where are you? 355820;1382469605;gecko_x2;i know that man 355821;1382469608;gecko_x2;that's no prob 355822;1382469614;gecko_x2;no prob 355823;1382469620;gecko_x2;i speak perfect english 355824;1382469632;gecko_x2;to be frank 355825;1382469643;deadweasel;ok, Frank, where is your first stop? 355826;1382469643;gecko_x2;i think i'm moving to where i truly belong 355827;1382469652;deadweasel;you truly belong wherever you are. 355828;1382469655;gecko_x2;where i've been for the past 20+ years 355829;1382469683;gecko_x2;that place is called efnet 355830;1382469699;jurov;sigh 355831;1382469704;gecko_x2;that's where i'm fucking going 355832;1382469709;gecko_x2;wtf 355833;1382469714;gecko_x2;there is nothing else 355834;1382469724;gecko_x2;everyone knows me there 355835;1382469755;gecko_x2;physically, someplace alittle warmer 355836;1382469768;gecko_x2;where ppl don't bark like dogs 355837;1382469778;deadweasel;well, you can't go anywhere then. 355838;1382469781;deadweasel;enjoy. 355839;1382469785;gecko_x2;then, after the crash 355840;1382469791;gecko_x2;who knows 355841;1382469805;gecko_x2;wrong deadweasel 355842;1382469819;gecko_x2;i can handlle myself just fine anywhere 355843;1382469834;deadweasel;i don't think you can handle yourself at all. you're all over the place. 355844;1382469842;gecko_x2;lol 355845;1382469852;gecko_x2;well you're wrong there bud 355846;1382469853;deadweasel;incoherent, rambling at times, to come back to just a general malaise. 355847;1382469866;gecko_x2;yeah 355848;1382469872;deadweasel;can't actually put into words what you're going to do ro what's actually wrong. except barking dogs... 355849;1382469875;gecko_x2;that's what you call life 355850;1382469893;deadweasel;nope, it's called belief. 355851;1382469899;deadweasel;you have too much, in too many things. 355852;1382469903;deadweasel;and you are too sure 355853;1382469905;gecko_x2;but dun worry man, dun worry about me 355854;1382469932;gecko_x2;if there is anything you can learn from this fucking rant, take it 355855;1382469942;Bunnyh;i'm finnish too, and don't really understand that barking dogs thing. maybe i'm one of them! 355856;1382469953;gecko_x2;uhh 355857;1382469966;gecko_x2;that's because you've never seen the other side 355858;1382469972;deadweasel;Bunnyh: quit fucking barking! 355859;1382469974;gecko_x2;this country is sick 355860;1382469984;gecko_x2;sick to the core 355861;1382469985;deadweasel;they all are -- they have governments. 355862;1382470002;kakobrekla;'this' being what? 355863;1382470023;gecko_x2;ppl telling other ppl that they have to carry their 70 litres of beer through a kilometer long hot metal tube 355864;1382470030;gecko_x2;if they want to enjoy it 355865;1382470033;topace;HIM dividends up 50% this month! 355866;1382470041;gecko_x2;that is psychological sickness 355867;1382470079;gecko_x2;this country is mother fucking sick to the bones 355868;1382470087;gecko_x2;there is no respect left 355869;1382470100;kakobrekla;what is this 'this' you speak of? 355870;1382470100;gecko_x2;it's just dogs sniffing other dog's asses 355871;1382470127;gecko_x2;you'll see 355872;1382470129;gecko_x2;in time 355873;1382470132;jurov;lol if only that's the problem...you're welcome in k.u.k. legacy countries... we like our beer fresh from cooled tank 355874;1382470139;gecko_x2;or then you won't 355875;1382470157;gecko_x2;and die in HYKS realizing you never lived at all 355876;1382470163;gecko_x2;no thanks 355877;1382470194;KRS1-;where would you prefer to live gecko_x2 if you had free choice of anywhere 355878;1382470210;gecko_x2;i have my placed scouted 355879;1382470210;kakobrekla;invalid question 355880;1382470213;kakobrekla;there is no free will 355881;1382470215;gecko_x2;i won't list them here 355882;1382470220;gecko_x2;just speaking my mind 355883;1382470237;gecko_x2;feell free to /ignore at any time 355884;1382470252;deadweasel;very close. :) 355885;1382470256;deadweasel;but still fun 355886;1382470257;Bunnyh;who's telling who to carry their 70 litres of beer through a kilometer long hot metal tube? i don't understand 355887;1382470262;deadweasel;^ 355888;1382470269;gecko_x2;bynnyh hold.. 355889;1382470270;deadweasel;explain plz, beer tubes? 355890;1382470275;gecko_x2;yes hold 355891;1382470294;deadweasel;is like a waterslide, for beer? 355892;1382470305;kakobrekla;beerslide then 355893;1382470320;gecko_x2;http://www.iltasanomat.fi/kotimaa/art-1288596509325.html 355894;1382470322;ozbot;SS: Tulli panee stopin varustamojen laittomalle viinarallille - Kotimaan uutiset - Ilta-Sanomat 355895;1382470323;kakobrekla;watch the foam. 355896;1382470334;gecko_x2;read the 157 comments 355897;1382470337;gecko_x2;you'll see. 355898;1382470358;gecko_x2;fuck sick dogs 355899;1382470362;gecko_x2;nothing more. 355900;1382470372;deadweasel;So, your entire country is fucked because you found a webpage with stuff you don't like? 355901;1382470379;deadweasel;this world is fucked 355902;1382470380;kakobrekla;lol 355903;1382470383;gecko_x2;no mas 355904;1382470392;gecko_x2;this is 20 years of this shit 355905;1382470392;deadweasel;who is mas? 355906;1382470400;gecko_x2;mas= FRIEND 355907;1382470404;deadweasel;oh, thank you! 355908;1382470410;gecko_x2;right. 355909;1382470420;gecko_x2;efnet l33t speak.. 355910;1382470436;jurov;you should definitely come to some ex-Austria-Hungary country. no such bs. 355911;1382470444;gecko_x2;i know 355912;1382470449;KRS1-;ignored 355913;1382470451;deadweasel;Another language... article about beer.... 355914;1382470451;gecko_x2;just spent 8 years in the baltics 355915;1382470471;gecko_x2;and going back for now.. 355916;1382470476;gecko_x2;later maybe south 355917;1382470495;deadweasel;gecko_x2: man, you're losing your grip a little, if you ever had it. If you have meds, take them again. Running away from sick dogs is no way to live. 355918;1382470505;gecko_x2;hehe 355919;1382470525;deadweasel;plus, wherever you go, there you are.... 355920;1382470527;gecko_x2;look this rant isn't about asking your opinion 355921;1382470534;deadweasel;don't give a shit, here it is. 355922;1382470539;gecko_x2;it's just one man telling about his life 355923;1382470551;deadweasel;you ain't told us shit about your life. Just a beer tube and sick dogs. 355924;1382470557;gecko_x2;no need to get angry or judgemental 355925;1382470566;deadweasel;other than you being a little manic, I haven't judged. 355926;1382470566;gecko_x2;lol 355927;1382470572;gecko_x2;k 355928;1382470582;deadweasel;I actually understand you because I have been you. 355929;1382470584;gecko_x2;this is irc 355930;1382470591;deadweasel;which will probably frighten you. 355931;1382470600;deadweasel;because, I'm inside of you, RIGHT NOW. 355932;1382470605;gecko_x2;omg 355933;1382470609;gecko_x2;RAEP 355934;1382470614;gecko_x2;:p 355935;1382470637;gecko_x2;lolol 355936;1382470643;deadweasel;:) 355937;1382470646;gecko_x2;anyways.. time for more music 355938;1382470653;deadweasel;ok, enough shirking work. I"m just gonna leave. Nice talking gecko_x2 355939;1382470675;gecko_x2;k mas... be good 355940;1382470678;gecko_x2;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8bDN5UIVyQ 355941;1382470679;ozbot;Evanescence - Fallen (Full Album) - YouTube 355942;1382470871;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61 BTC [+] 355943;1382471053;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.601 BTC [-] 355944;1382471114;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 18 @ 0.60000001 = 10.8 BTC [-] {3} 355945;1382472273;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.6 = 1.2 BTC [-] {2} 355946;1382472578;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.590001 = 1.18 BTC [-] 355947;1382472808;ThickAsThieves;http://bitcoinmagazine.com/7659/betcoin-tm-allegedly-fraudulent-activity/ 355948;1382472809;ozbot;BetCoin.tm's Allegedly Fraudulent, Unethical and Illegal Activity – Bitcoin Magazine 355949;1382472822;ThickAsThieves;but what if betcoin are they guys that bought satoshidice? 355950;1382472881;jurov;On the whole, the global Bitcoin space is a self-policing community that uproots and exposes scams and unethical Bitcoin service operators with ruthless efficiency. 355951;1382472888;jurov;HAHAHAHAHA 355952;1382472900;jborkl;oh damn, that is so untrue 355953;1382472905;jborkl;lol 355954;1382473099;jurov;"it is important to say that the majority of the bitcoin gambling operators believe in honesty and integrity" oh my 355955;1382473129;mircea_popescu;jurov lawl. 355956;1382473136;mircea_popescu;bitcoin magazine being the chief example of such. 355957;1382473156;mircea_popescu;i don't recall the last time they pushed a scam. 355958;1382473310;ThickAsThieves;i do 355959;1382473344;ThickAsThieves;vitalik is part of that quantum mining thing 355960;1382473361;ThickAsThieves;the article is so trashy also 355961;1382473383;ThickAsThieves;like some tabloid rag making wild claims 355962;1382473449;mircea_popescu;my sarcastifier ;/ 355963;1382473511;ThickAsThieves;i know, i chose to desarcastify 355964;1382473621;mircea_popescu;"i chose not to run" lol 355965;1382473647;mircea_popescu;dude my motherfucking head. this is the last time i kiss on the first date 355966;1382473651;mircea_popescu;fucking hussies. 355967;1382473685;ThickAsThieves;mp is twitterpated 355968;1382473706;mircea_popescu;no, i just got the world's worst flu. 355969;1382473715;mircea_popescu;i just blew enough filling for a whole key lime pie out of my nose 355970;1382473719;mircea_popescu;same exact color and consistency too 355971;1382473723;mircea_popescu;one go! 355972;1382473734;ThickAsThieves;ah sinus infection 355973;1382473781;ThickAsThieves;remember not to pick your nose after theyve been down someone's pants 355974;1382473801;mircea_popescu;how many noses do i have iyo! 355975;1382473829;ThickAsThieves;one for each pant 355976;1382473837;mircea_popescu;lol 355977;1382473870;mircea_popescu;a man, a pant, a canal - panama! 355978;1382473936;ThickAsThieves;i have to go to a halloween party 355979;1382473957;ThickAsThieves;i think i will be kenny powers 355980;1382473981;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 125 @ 0.00223999 = 0.28 BTC [-] 355981;1382474002;mircea_popescu;cause you're so poor ? 355982;1382474027;ThickAsThieves;cause i dont like wearing wacky clothes 355983;1382474044;ThickAsThieves;he wears all black and sunglassed pretty much 355984;1382474049;ThickAsThieves;sunglasses 355985;1382474058;ThickAsThieves;so just need mullet and goatee 355986;1382474073;ThickAsThieves;will have to shave my neckbeard for this 355987;1382474086;mircea_popescu;i thought kenny got killed anyway 355988;1382474090;ThickAsThieves;nope 355989;1382474094;ThickAsThieves;he faked his death 355990;1382474107;mircea_popescu;wait, i was thinking kenny mccormick 355991;1382474129;ThickAsThieves;https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&sqi=2&ved=0CDcQtwIwAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DbgDaVLCaBzQ&ei=ieFmUuXIKYT29gTtgoGQDA&usg=AFQjCNE9tyqOxODGGzELM0Ex61Hmd1Ilew&sig2=owzcyjR3NL77wwwr2rs7Gw&bvm=bv.55123115,d.eWU 355992;1382474130;mircea_popescu;dude there's no way to dress for halloween easier than sp kenny. all eh wears is an anorak 355993;1382474145;ThickAsThieves;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgDaVLCaBzQ 355994;1382474145;ozbot;BEST OF KENNY POWERS - YouTube 355995;1382474301;ThickAsThieves;that best of sucks 355996;1382474347;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 51 @ 0.0057 = 0.2907 BTC [-] 355997;1382474348;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 0.073999 = 0.296 BTC [+] 355998;1382474414;Vexual;http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-23/an-gold-found-in-gum-tree-leaves/5039226 355999;1382474414;ozbot;CSIRO scientists find gold in Western Australian eucalyptus trees - Australia Network News (Australi 356000;1382474465;dub;money grows on trees nao? 356001;1382474503;mircea_popescu;does this explain the pandas ? 356002;1382474530;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1596 @ 0.0011499 = 1.8352 BTC [+] 356003;1382474532;dub;koalas? 356004;1382474540;mircea_popescu;a that ty 356005;1382474550;mircea_popescu;whichever azn minibear tat's not fucking 356006;1382474594;ThickAsThieves;somebody tell kenilworth 356007;1382474774;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 10 @ 0.073999 = 0.74 BTC [+] 356008;1382474835;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.62 BTC [+] 356009;1382475120;Vexual;i like the shit eating "i get patent cheques" grin of mr koala 356010;1382475283;ThickAsThieves;;;nethash 356011;1382475283;gribble;3176962.68127 356012;1382475287;ThickAsThieves;;;estimate 356013;1382475288;gribble;Next difficulty estimate | 378407272.822 based on data since last change | 443809787.464 based on data for last three days 356014;1382475347;ThickAsThieves;its odd watching the coinbase btc/usd price 356015;1382475360;ThickAsThieves;this morning it was very close to goxprice, but with a $5 spread 356016;1382475369;ThickAsThieves;now its like $12 under gox 356017;1382475419;Vexual;with a $2 spead 356018;1382475562;Vexual;http://www.google.com/finance?q=USDCNY 356019;1382475562;ozbot;US Dollar: CURRENCY:USD quotes & news - Google Finance 356020;1382475811;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.59 BTC [-] 356021;1382475869;mircea_popescu;skinnkavaj hiow's litecoin doing these days ? 356022;1382475916;skinnkavaj;mircea_popescu: It's crashing really hard as expected. From 1st of november the uptrend starts. 356023;1382475917;Scrat;ThickAsThieves: if there's an upwards trajectory, they benefit by raising the price 356024;1382475926;mircea_popescu;wait, "as expected" now ? 356025;1382475931;skinnkavaj;Yes 356026;1382475932;mircea_popescu;you're getting a feature piece over this lol. 356027;1382475932;skinnkavaj;I said 356028;1382475934;skinnkavaj;Low will be 356029;1382475937;skinnkavaj;0.007 356030;1382475945;skinnkavaj;LTC/BTC 356031;1382476002;mircea_popescu;nope. the first time you mentioned this "0.007" was yesterday. 356032;1382476008;mircea_popescu;so no, you didn't "say". 356033;1382476048;Vexual;license to die? 356034;1382476092;Vexual;the names coin 356035;1382476107;Vexual;lite coin 356036;1382476115;ThickAsThieves;ltc is awesome because when bitcoin goes up, it goes down. And when bitcoin goes down, LTC goes down too. Such a giving lover. 356037;1382476174;ThickAsThieves;so now youve got an ocean of ltc speculators all trying to put a ring on her. 356038;1382476174;mircea_popescu;poor ltc. 356039;1382476181;ThickAsThieves;but all she wants to do is go down 356040;1382476205;dub;skinnkavaj = fontas? 356041;1382476225;ThickAsThieves;= vancleef=bithub 356042;1382476259;dub;oh jesus 356043;1382476282;ThickAsThieves;=usagi? 356044;1382476284;mircea_popescu;i thoughrt vancleef = madonna 356045;1382476284;ThickAsThieves;obv 356046;1382476400;taub;keeping the bitstamp orderbook open for too long crashes my firefox 356047;1382476402;taub;gah 356048;1382476408;taub;but its some interesting shit going down there 356049;1382476414;taub;100k being thrown around left and right 356050;1382476414;dub;its firefox 356051;1382476499;jurov;just bitstamp trying some 'sploits 356052;1382476520;mircea_popescu;prolly firefox still leaking memory 356053;1382476646;taub;ThickAsThieves: ltc has been sorta steady in terms of $ 356054;1382476672;taub;1.7-1.8 during this recent btc bull move 356055;1382476760;pankkake;that's not very impressive, especially as USD is losing value 356056;1382476782;taub;yea 356057;1382476856;pankkake;and I guess it's part of the rise of BTC/USD too 356058;1382476876;pankkake;I'm glad I don't have USDs in bitstamp :) 356059;1382476964;taub;:/ 356060;1382476978;pankkake;being an eurofag and all 356061;1382476991;taub;bfx <> bitstamp price parity has been having troubles 356062;1382477003;taub;Not enough USD reserve on Bitstamp, you cannot buy on Bitstamp at the moment. 356063;1382477009;taub;hard to trade bfx off bitstamp charts that way 356064;1382477037;taub;then again, everybody being thsi long might be a warning flag 356065;1382477422;gecko_x2;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OH4C4mh6RME 356066;1382477422;ozbot;Disturbed - Indestructible [Full Album] - YouTube 356067;1382477618;pankkake;that's teenager music 356068;1382477664;gecko_x2;and who's gonna run this world? 356069;1382477678;dub;robots 356070;1382477690;dub;not teenagers thats for sure 356071;1382477701;gecko_x2;you're gonna die 356072;1382477702;dub;useless little cunts 356073;1382477710;gecko_x2;and teenagers are gonna run it 356074;1382477716;dub;unlikely 356075;1382477751;gecko_x2;you must be about 25 356076;1382477764;gecko_x2;enjoy while it lasts 356077;1382477865;pankkake;teenagers with attitude 356078;1382477948;jurov;and starry eyes 356079;1382478071;dub;yes, 25 356080;1382478079;dub;still a teenager myself 356081;1382478099;gecko_x2;then /ignore me immediately 356082;1382478106;gecko_x2;and go live 356083;1382478120;dub;you lost me at from finland in all honesty 356084;1382478133;gecko_x2;u dunno anything about that 356085;1382478139;dub;never had a usful encounter with a fin 356086;1382478141;gecko_x2;and you shouldn't 356087;1382478179;dub;and I find racial stereotypes most efficient 356088;1382478197;gecko_x2;has nothing to do with that 356089;1382478206;gecko_x2;again 356090;1382478214;gecko_x2;don't spend you're time here 356091;1382478217;gecko_x2;go and live 356092;1382478226;gecko_x2;it's gonna be over in a flash 356093;1382478261;gecko_x2;i am death 356094;1382478278;gecko_x2;that's why i annoy you 356095;1382478296;jurov;i actually was in finland, did not find anything out of ordinary with finnish guys 356096;1382478373;gecko_x2;if you've seen the world, you would be aware that any people threat their guests better than their own 356097;1382478385;gecko_x2;always 356098;1382478411;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/the-dork-of-the-month-award/ 356099;1382478412;ozbot;The dork of the month award. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 356100;1382478420;dub;clearly never been to 'murica then 356101;1382478439;gecko_x2;and clearly never been arrested abroad. 356102;1382478461;mircea_popescu;<dub> robots. not teenagers thats for sure <<< that. or meth whores. 356103;1382478469;pankkake;lol, that heinlein reference still wats me up 356104;1382478473;jurov;not in slovakia. we treat guests and locals woth the same disdain 356105;1382478488;jurov;*with . maybe guests even worse 356106;1382478493;mircea_popescu;pankkake im not even sure what it's supposed to be 356107;1382478518;pankkake;probably because heinlein wrote starship troopers thus is a fascist? 356108;1382478519;gecko_x2;lub ur fucking blog mp 356109;1382478528;mircea_popescu;i mean... guy was a pretty good sf writer neh ? pushed up the standards./ 356110;1382478528;gecko_x2;gonna read everything someday 356111;1382478531;gecko_x2;but not today 356112;1382478535;dub;is the quote formatting all fucked up? 356113;1382478536;pankkake;"October 20" you're missing skinnkavaj saying the first line 356114;1382478544;mircea_popescu;gecko_x2 it'll be hjard to do, like 5-10mn words in there 356115;1382478558;pankkake;actually the formatting is mostly broken 356116;1382478561;gecko_x2;well i'll start from jan '13 356117;1382478563;jurov;gecko_x2: seriously, visiting finnnish girl asked me why nobody is smiling in the services around here :D 356118;1382478563;mircea_popescu;pankkake aty 356119;1382478610;mircea_popescu;what did you rtell her ? 356120;1382478644;gecko_x2;:) 356121;1382478670;gecko_x2;btw 356122;1382478673;gecko_x2;mp 356123;1382478680;gecko_x2;skinnkavaj = swedish 356124;1382478689;gecko_x2;means 'skin suite' 356125;1382478713;gecko_x2;swedish is my mother tongue 356126;1382478716;mircea_popescu;what's that mean in english ? 356127;1382478727;gecko_x2;whaty i just said 356128;1382478738;gecko_x2;suit as in fine suit 356129;1382478738;pankkake;skin suite? not skin suit? 356130;1382478744;gecko_x2;no 356131;1382478749;gecko_x2;suit as in armani suit 356132;1382478754;gecko_x2;skin suit 356133;1382478771;gecko_x2;erm 356134;1382478773;gecko_x2;sry 356135;1382478778;gecko_x2;suite yes 356136;1382478788;gecko_x2;skin suite 356137;1382478790;pankkake;I'm lost 356138;1382478796;pankkake;anyway, it means skinny vagina 356139;1382478817;gecko_x2;i dunno the correct spelling 356140;1382478830;gecko_x2;but it means as in the suite you wear for business 356141;1382478832;Vexual;this room is no good, can i see a suite? 356142;1382478848;gecko_x2;ok just wanted to note 356143;1382478855;mircea_popescu;so gecko_x2 a suit is a piece of clothing like i wear, a suite is a hotel arrangement 356144;1382478861;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 121 @ 0.00208678 = 0.2525 BTC [-] {4} 356145;1382478862;mircea_popescu;neither of these go with skin. you mean leather ? 356146;1382478866;gecko_x2;exactly 356147;1382478871;gecko_x2;like i said 356148;1382478875;gecko_x2;skin suit 356149;1382478878;mircea_popescu;a ok. so leather suit, like on a biker ? 356150;1382478884;gecko_x2;yeah 356151;1382478895;mircea_popescu;aite. leater, not skin. skin is always on a live animal. 356152;1382478896;gecko_x2;skinn = skin 356153;1382478901;mircea_popescu;like pig is alive and pork dead. 356154;1382478901;gecko_x2;kavai = suit 356155;1382478921;gecko_x2;it sounds weird even in native language 356156;1382478924;pankkake;so it means furry 356157;1382478929;gecko_x2;is why i noticed 356158;1382478932;gecko_x2;no 356159;1382478939;gecko_x2;suit like in armani suit 356160;1382478940;mircea_popescu;pankkake in fairness, i knew this very hot chick that only wore leather pants. 356161;1382478947;mircea_popescu;i think it got to be 50 degrees in her crotch. 356162;1382478987;gecko_x2;mp i once had one of those in my 2000 audi S8 356163;1382479009;gecko_x2;only she carried a small zipbag of coke in her pussy, in her leather pants 356164;1382479018;gecko_x2;across the border. 356165;1382479046;mircea_popescu;so did it crack under the pressure ? 356166;1382479050;gecko_x2;360 BHP freely respirated 356167;1382479066;Vexual;lol coke diamonds 356168;1382479071;gecko_x2;awd with bosch electronically locked center diff 356169;1382479081;mircea_popescu;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp7wQP2omi4 356170;1382479082;ozbot;Direttore magistrale Duca conte PierMatteo Barambani - YouTube 356171;1382479088;mircea_popescu;btw, am i the only fantocci fan here ? 356172;1382479089;gecko_x2;top speed limited to 320 kph 356173;1382479096;gecko_x2;etc.. 356174;1382479105;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 35 @ 0.00587 = 0.2055 BTC [+] 356175;1382479192;jurov;http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/10/the-navys-newest-warship-is-powered-by-linux/ finally found my ideal colo facility :D 356176;1382479203;mircea_popescu;ha! 356177;1382479227;mircea_popescu;usure it's not osx ? 356178;1382479283;pankkake;it would be a full aluminum ship with glowing USA flag if it was 356179;1382479284;jurov;dont' matter. as long as it can alunch missiles in case of ddos 356180;1382479328;mircea_popescu;lmao if that thing ends up beached because ddos... 356181;1382479332;mircea_popescu;ima go visit the wreck. 356182;1382479383;kakobrekla;im sure they can avoid it with binoculars 356183;1382479542;mircea_popescu;maybe theres no way to get on deck 356184;1382479551;mircea_popescu;like those office buildings you can't open the windows of 356185;1382479585;Vexual;it looks super fast, is it nuclear powered? 356186;1382479715;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 141 @ 0.00201001 = 0.2834 BTC [-] 356187;1382479761;Vexual;whats the IBS on the schematic? 356188;1382479827;Vexual;Id guess Integrated power systems element is the reactor 356189;1382479867;gecko_x2;i know you're ignoring me on purpouse mp :p 356190;1382479879;gecko_x2;guess i need to find bettar music.. 356191;1382479917;Vexual;with a sensor data line to mission readiness module 356192;1382479939;Vexual;got nuke power? check 356193;1382479940;gecko_x2;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAXtDPKkOlA 356194;1382479941;ozbot;In Flames - Cloud Connected [High Quality] - YouTube 356195;1382479947;Vexual;mission readiness confirmed 356196;1382480044;Vexual;see if you can find a photo on the internet of a nuclear warship throwing a top speed rooster tail. you can't 356197;1382480083;Vexual;top speed is more secret than their computer systems 356198;1382480091;pankkake;gecko_x2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja_hDxivKrI 356199;1382480166;gecko_x2;clicked.. 356200;1382480197;gecko_x2;increasing vol and leaning back.. 356201;1382480216;gecko_x2;liking 356202;1382480247;kakobrekla;i dont understand what they are singing 356203;1382480268;pankkake;pretty much the only melodic death metal that doesn't make me vomit 356204;1382480271;gecko_x2;there is calm in your indeciscion 356205;1382480299;pankkake;though I prefer their earlier work[/hipster] 356206;1382480359;gecko_x2;youtube sidebar gave me lots of memories from this excellent hypocrisy song 356207;1382480367;gecko_x2;so thx 356208;1382480369;pankkake;I mostly do understand the lyrics 356209;1382480389;kakobrekla;yeah you need to put some effort to it 356210;1382480412;gecko_x2;look 356211;1382480420;pankkake;and then there's the passive learning of listening to it over the years 356212;1382480428;gecko_x2;basically all heavy metal is synonymous to bitcoin 356213;1382480437;gecko_x2;it's all the same story 356214;1382480439;pankkake;you mean precious metal 356215;1382480446;kakobrekla;lol 356216;1382480447;gecko_x2;it's what we all are preparing for 356217;1382480456;gecko_x2;also that yes 356218;1382480467;gecko_x2;heavy metal = heavy metal 356219;1382480468;kakobrekla;i dont see the heavy metal resembelence 356220;1382480476;gecko_x2;it's there man 356221;1382480479;pankkake;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MF69enruobk glorious album, and artwork, and name 356222;1382480479;ozbot;Hypocrisy - Penetralia - YouTube 356223;1382480483;gecko_x2;it's all the same story 356224;1382480500;gecko_x2;u should invite my bud piett over from efnet 356225;1382480508;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.625 BTC [+] 356226;1382480510;gecko_x2;he could link you to some real shit 356227;1382480522;gecko_x2;like this 356228;1382480542;gecko_x2;excellent links, i thankyou 356229;1382480566;dub;bitcoin is only 80% smelly neckbeards now haven't you heard 356230;1382480569;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.63 = 1.26 BTC [+] 356231;1382480583;pankkake;I'm only smelly 80% of the time 356232;1382480619;kakobrekla;80% smelly and 20% neckbeard? 356233;1382480645;pankkake;my beard looks naturally good thankfully 356234;1382480687;gecko_x2;pankkake try this little nice tune.. 356235;1382480701;pankkake;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtnG6EHh1N4 this is HEAVY metal 356236;1382480707;gecko_x2;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOOebk_dKFo 356237;1382480708;ozbot;IMMORTAL (Official) - "ALL SHALL FALL" music video HD - YouTube 356238;1382480718;gecko_x2;mine first 356239;1382480775;gecko_x2;:p :p 356240;1382480782;gecko_x2;i need moar alcohol 356241;1382480794;pankkake;well I do go to concerts with earplugs :p 356242;1382480800;kakobrekla;yes if by moar you mean less. 356243;1382480811;gecko_x2;haha ofcourse 356244;1382480814;Scrat;gecko_x2: if you're going to link immortal... why link that one 356245;1382480821;gecko_x2;let me drink some less alcohol 356246;1382480823;pankkake;you don't listen to sunn o))) with your ears anyway 356247;1382480834;Scrat;is abbath's crab walk? 356248;1382480838;Scrat;is it* 356249;1382480846;soypirate;pankkake: so true 356250;1382480854;gecko_x2;haven't clicked pankkake's link yet 356251;1382480889;pankkake;I love Immortal, they just don't take themselves seriously 356252;1382480898;pankkake;omg 2:28 356253;1382480920;gecko_x2;can't click yet 356254;1382480929;pankkake;I mean 2:28 of immortal 356255;1382480970;Scrat;pankkake: more like 0:45 356256;1382480982;Scrat;dat fucking crab walk 356257;1382480991;gecko_x2;sexy 356258;1382481022;gecko_x2;ok now clicking pankake 356259;1382481038;gecko_x2;what are these the elves? :p 356260;1382481047;pankkake;bathrobes 356261;1382481077;pankkake;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEctVHxs34U 356262;1382481078;ozbot;Abbath on Church Burnings - YouTube 356263;1382481079;gecko_x2;zomg they been in a turkish sauna ? :p 356264;1382481168;gecko_x2;nah.. this all good but i'm going retro 356265;1382481181;gecko_x2;lub all metal but getting old 356266;1382481190;gecko_x2;gonna serve u a surprise 356267;1382481201;gecko_x2;i mean i'm getting old 356268;1382481207;gecko_x2;not the music.. 356269;1382481239;pankkake;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QbAXXXOJF8 that's when you know it's then end 356270;1382481250;gecko_x2;remember this my friends? 356271;1382481252;gecko_x2;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Rd4_GDzNBg 356272;1382481253;ozbot;Gorky Park - Moscow Calling (Opening Eurovision 2009) - YouTube 356273;1382481273;gecko_x2;LOL 356274;1382481288;gecko_x2;ehh fuck it 356275;1382481291;gecko_x2;forhet it 356276;1382481297;gecko_x2;forget 356277;1382481300;gecko_x2;bad link 356278;1382481315;soypirate;hehe 356279;1382481324;gecko_x2;this is going to shit 356280;1382481327;gecko_x2;:D 356281;1382481357;gecko_x2;ok 356282;1382481366;gecko_x2;let's do something bettar 356283;1382481394;soypirate;this guy is the shit: 356284;1382481396;soypirate;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPZX7EZIFD0 356285;1382481396;ozbot;Guildo Horn - Guildo hat euch lieb [Eurovision 1998 - Germany] - YouTube 356286;1382481408;gecko_x2;like this mother fucking masterpiece 356287;1382481415;gecko_x2;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRdFIUIC_sI 356288;1382481416;ozbot;Stratovarius - Visions - Full Album - [1997] - YouTube 356289;1382481466;soypirate;gecko_x2: nice one 356290;1382481470;gecko_x2;:D 356291;1382481501;dub;ugg bring back vexual 356292;1382481507;Vexual;:) 356293;1382481534;pankkake;this chan allows only one drunk at a time 356294;1382481574;dub;I'd rather hear outback ozzy serial killer anthems than teen masturbation soundtracks 356295;1382481656;gecko_x2;well strato has worked for me in my past weeks of drunorness 356296;1382481660;gecko_x2;dunno why 356297;1382481667;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 260 @ 0.0011499 = 0.299 BTC [+] 356298;1382481679;pankkake;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOBrGj1zw8U I listened to this as a teenager, ew 356299;1382481680;ozbot;Thy Majestie - The King And The Warrior - YouTube 356300;1382481702;gecko_x2;zomg italian metal 356301;1382481709;pankkake;can't be gayer 356302;1382481713;gecko_x2;in memory of sam? 356303;1382481715;nubbins`;<jurov> On the whole, the global Bitcoin space is a self-policing community that uproots and exposes scams and unethical Bitcoin service operators with ruthless efficiency. 356304;1382481718;pankkake;hehe 356305;1382481718;nubbins`;ahahaha 356306;1382481720;nubbins`;my sides 356307;1382481728;nubbins`;where's that from? 356308;1382481743;jurov;the link above that 356309;1382481750;pankkake;I'm calling for a labcoin witch hunt, but the actual victims still don't want it 356310;1382481766;jurov;mircea_popescu: withdrawals please 356311;1382481789;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 9 @ 0.07398 = 0.6658 BTC [-] 356312;1382481821;gecko_x2;mmm ruthless 356313;1382481827;gecko_x2;i liek dat word 356314;1382481869;gecko_x2;smoke bbl 356315;1382481930;nubbins`;pankkake: you're just trying to sabotage the sweet divs 356316;1382481940;nubbins`;like 52 satoshi per share last time i think? 356317;1382481971;pankkake;something like it, I can't see them in my cryptostocks account because they are too low 356318;1382481996;nubbins`;heh 356319;1382482030;nubbins`;well, ya know. people don't wanna admit they got scammed. they'd much rather just pretend it's not happening 356320;1382482084;pankkake;I understand that, I have a hard time simply admitting I made a bad decision 356321;1382482094;mircea_popescu;pankkake https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/10/can_i_be_truste.html 356322;1382482099;pankkake;but perhaps that mean I'm/they're not cut for the job 356323;1382482108;mircea_popescu;so much fun to be had on the internets. 356324;1382482135;pankkake;and no one's mentionning you 356325;1382482241;mircea_popescu;depends what you mean by mentioning me. 356326;1382482380;gecko_x2;virtuals is my bud 356327;1382482391;gecko_x2;remember that 356328;1382482406;gecko_x2;and he's on the case of labcoin 356329;1382482436;gecko_x2;he's the only irl bud i can talk about this shit to 356330;1382482444;gecko_x2;totally aware 356331;1382482498;gecko_x2;just wanted to say.. 356332;1382482499;nubbins`;i need to figure out how to make wallpaper paste that's easily removable from walls 356333;1382482628;mircea_popescu;you can't unscrew a lightbulb. 356334;1382482747;nubbins`;well, that's more for lack of trying 356335;1382482799;nubbins`;we're planning to do a seripop-style art installation at an event next month, and i'd love to paper the walls of the bar, but i don't think the bar will appreciate having things permanently affixed to its walls 356336;1382483306;AndrewJackson;Nubbins, paint your walls with watered down paste first, then the paper will come off easy 356337;1382483598;nubbins`;yeah, i'm reading something now that says weak cornstarch paste will allow easy removal if i paint the walls rather than the paper 356338;1382483614;nubbins`;guess i should experiment some 356339;1382483732;Vexual;http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=04f_1366644470 356340;1382483732;ozbot;LiveLeak.com - Stupid Balkan guy "Tihomir" + hammer drill = FAIL 356341;1382483775;nubbins`;http://seripop.com/projects/uncountable-not-comparable/ 356342;1382483775;ozbot;Seripop - Yannick Desranleau and Chloe Lum - Uncountable (Not Comparable) 356343;1382483783;nubbins`;those guys do some crazy shit with paper 356344;1382484107;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 0.07399 = 0.296 BTC [+] 356345;1382484229;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 405 @ 0.0011499 = 0.4657 BTC [+] 356346;1382484290;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 0.07399 = 0.222 BTC [+] 356347;1382484351;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 12 @ 0.07399 = 0.8879 BTC [+] 356348;1382484917;Vexual;nubbins why not fix the artwork to removable board? 356349;1382484951;dub;fucking google 356350;1382484973;dub;my phone has turned into rage bait overnight 356351;1382485095;Vexual;get ubuntu 356352;1382485138;dub;fuck ubuntu 356353;1382485144;nubbins`;vexual, we're talking BIG artwork 356354;1382485164;Vexual;3mm mdf is cheap 356355;1382485168;nubbins`;although that would work if the bar won't let us paste the walls 356356;1382485212;nubbins`;corrugated plastic might be an option too 356357;1382485241;Vexual;much lighter too, you could fix it with 3m double sided tape 356358;1382485256;nubbins`;hmmmm..... 356359;1382485298;nubbins`;gears turning, etc 356360;1382485309;gecko_x2;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCAgbkoEPMQ 356361;1382485309;ozbot;W.A.S.P. - The Headless Children (FULL ALBUM) - YouTube 356362;1382485314;nubbins`;we wanna put up large versions of these guys puking rainbows all over the bar: http://pinkeyeprints.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/hzvrd-imgur.jpg 356363;1382485561;dub;http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/websearch/NFxVP5a_dG8 356364;1382485561;ozbot;Google Groups 356365;1382485565;Vexual;if you want to get real tricky, you could cut shapes into the corflute so that the slightly noticeable grain of the stuff follows the rainbows 356366;1382485628;mircea_popescu;get those superflat printable lcd things 356367;1382485690;nubbins`;we were thinking of printing large rectangles of paper with horizontal rainbow stripes, and overlapping them on various angles to make the rainbows swerve in different directions 356368;1382485706;nubbins`;wouldn't really work without pasting directly to the walls though 356369;1382485731;nubbins`;although, i suppose we could cut the corflute (!) into curved shapes & just join them together 356370;1382485744;Vexual;stick each rectangle to the corflute and arrange them to the wall as separate rectangles 356371;1382485845;nubbins`;hmm 356372;1382485868;nubbins`;if we cut the corflute rectangles on a diagonal, we'd have triangles which could be flipped around to create nice curves 356373;1382485886;nubbins`;http://seripop.com/projects/hording-skin/ 356374;1382485886;ozbot;Seripop - Yannick Desranleau and Chloe Lum - Hoarding Skin 356375;1382485890;mircea_popescu;so good news : asciilifeform has fixed phuctor. it works about a degree of magnitude faster now. basicvally no keys are waiting anymore. 356376;1382485891;nubbins`;^ that's ALL PAPER 356377;1382486312;Vexual;cardboard would work too 356378;1382486359;nubbins`;at that point, could just tape the paper to the walls, i guess 356379;1382486368;Vexual;but white corflute could be illuminated from behind 356380;1382486378;nubbins`;WHOA 356381;1382486380;nubbins`;yes it could 356382;1382486408;Vexual;$5 fairy lights 356383;1382486414;nubbins`;in fact, our washout booth has a backlit corflute wall 356384;1382486426;nubbins`;even the dimmest light shines through 356385;1382486445;nubbins`;oh my god, this is going to be amazing 356386;1382486445;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 356387;1382486481;nubbins`;i'm sure there's a bot in an apple chan somewhere that screams MAGICAL DEVICE! every time someone says "magical" 356388;1382486505;Vexual;i want photos 356389;1382486516;nubbins`;and photos you shall get 356390;1382486531;nubbins`;aiming for late november 356391;1382486674;nubbins`;we actually have some stands left over from a multi-layered glass project that could be useful for holding corflute sheets 356392;1382486675;nubbins`;hmmmmmm 356393;1382486680;nubbins`;this gives me a lot to think about 356394;1382486687;mircea_popescu;amazing #bitcoin-assets 356395;1382486687;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 356396;1382486704;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbhJ9c-pFoI 356397;1382486704;ozbot;MAGIC FOUNTAIN (Official Video) - Art vs Science - YouTube 356398;1382486968;nubbins`;lel 356399;1382486980;nubbins`;that video just spurred an impromptu dance party 356400;1382486981;mircea_popescu;mod6 how's urbit these days btw ? you been keeping any track ? 356401;1382488072;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.638415 = 3.8305 BTC [+] {5} 356402;1382488276;BingoBoingo;Oh, Schneier approved my comment. https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/10/can_i_be_truste.html#c2003318 356403;1382488316;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 21 @ 0.07399 = 1.5538 BTC [+] 356404;1382488323;gecko_x2;nice 356405;1382488326;mircea_popescu;lol you're special. people were complaining he ate their comments earlier. 356406;1382488349;gecko_x2;i trust u all know schneier's history and who he is 356407;1382488362;gecko_x2;mp? 356408;1382488381;gecko_x2;anyways 356409;1382488382;mircea_popescu;ianae 356410;1382488385;gecko_x2;nice. 356411;1382488387;mircea_popescu;but more or less. 356412;1382488406;gecko_x2;schneier is the original crypto guy in our generation 356413;1382488418;gecko_x2;there is nobody higher really 356414;1382488424;gecko_x2;atleast publically 356415;1382488439;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 6 @ 0.07399 = 0.4439 BTC [+] 356416;1382488463;gecko_x2;his blog is the original public crypto blog 356417;1382488481;gecko_x2;the primary enemy of the NSA and the illuminati 356418;1382488499;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 16 @ 0.073999 = 1.184 BTC [+] 356419;1382488503;gecko_x2;so.. nice. 356420;1382488538;mircea_popescu;a yeah. kinda went downhill since 2004 tho 356421;1382488558;gecko_x2;schneier was involved in smuggling the original PGP source code outside of us borders 356422;1382488576;gecko_x2;they did it by printing it out on A4's and physically mailing it 356423;1382488598;gecko_x2;back then the pentagon defined him as enemy of the state 356424;1382488616;gecko_x2;he later fought off those charges in US courts 356425;1382488621;gecko_x2;during the 80's 356426;1382488634;gecko_x2;would never be possible today 356427;1382488649;mircea_popescu;aren't you confusing him with zimmermann ? 356428;1382488659;gecko_x2;umm yes 356429;1382488666;gecko_x2;but this isn't clear 356430;1382488682;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 27 @ 0.075 = 2.025 BTC [+] 356431;1382488683;gecko_x2;schneier was zimm's bud 356432;1382488690;gecko_x2;so we dunno 356433;1382488692;gecko_x2;afaik 356434;1382488700;BingoBoingo;Schneier is just the Dude who submits algorithms to NIST competitions and never makes it past second place. 356435;1382488725;gecko_x2;i trust schneier more than zimm 356436;1382488824;gecko_x2;look 356437;1382488856;gecko_x2;the surname zimmerman is jewish 356438;1382488869;gecko_x2;sch is nit jew 356439;1382488871;gecko_x2;not* 356440;1382488885;gecko_x2;no jew surname begins with sch 356441;1382488912;gecko_x2;aka zion, aka illuminati 356442;1382488999;mircea_popescu;gecko_gs2 for the record, schneier was like 17 in 1980. 356443;1382489041;gecko_x2;noted 356444;1382489050;gecko_x2;still 356445;1382489095;gecko_x2;zimmerman, spielberg, lucas 356446;1382489104;gecko_x2;all zionists 356447;1382489111;gecko_x2;bunot sch 356448;1382489117;gecko_x2;but not* 356449;1382489130;gecko_x2;afak 356450;1382489132;gecko_x2;afaik 356451;1382489143;gecko_x2;damn i need more alcohol and music :D 356452;1382489166;gecko_x2;schneier is german 356453;1382489172;gecko_x2;arian 356454;1382489335;gecko_x2;now the zionists form the basis of the illuminati 356455;1382489348;gecko_x2;and the banker system known as the city of london 356456;1382489368;gecko_x2;'the city' being the key word 356457;1382489428;gecko_x2;and yes, the huge dildo shaped building in london really does represent a penis 356458;1382489446;gecko_x2;that's how these guys work 356459;1382489597;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6455 BTC [+] 356460;1382489599;gecko_x2;their latest trick is called 'the shard' 356461;1382489631;gecko_x2;it represents themselves fucking the ppl in the world in the anus with a broken glass bottle 356462;1382489642;gecko_x2;you can look it up. 356463;1382489723;gecko_x2;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shard 356464;1382489769;KRS1;yeah, and the phone company killed kennedy. 356465;1382489790;gecko_x2;what 356466;1382489800;gecko_x2;kennedy wanted to introduce debt free money 356467;1382489809;gecko_x2;and so he was taken out 356468;1382489816;gecko_x2;that's all there is to it 356469;1382489873;gecko_x2;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIh3nO6-V_A 356470;1382489874;ozbot;Metallica - Whiskey in the jar - YouTube 356471;1382489877;KRS1;I think it was Northeastern Bell. 356472;1382489894;gecko_x2;Bell = illuminati 356473;1382489927;gecko_x2;the shape of a church bell represents the shape of their power structure 356474;1382489979;gecko_x2;the narrow top, the wide middle part and then the scum of the earth 356475;1382490013;KRS1;I think it was corporate or maybe one of their subsidiaries. Maybe billing. 356476;1382490021;gecko_x2;every church you visit on the earth has it's doors shaped in a certain way 356477;1382490029;gecko_x2;that shape represents the vagina 356478;1382490039;KRS1;Just had to make a new tinfoil hat. My old one fell apart. 356479;1382490047;KRS1;this one fits much better. 356480;1382490054;dub;I've lost count if this guy is trolling or an acutal fruitcake 356481;1382490076;gecko_x2;you all know how every church door is shaped with the pointy top 356482;1382490088;gecko_x2;represents the vagina and the clit 356483;1382490095;KRS1;he's got a lot of energy, he was talking all this jazz when i left the office at 4:30 356484;1382490104;gecko_x2;that's why men used to leave all their weapons outside 356485;1382490114;KRS1;just don't mention Finland. 356486;1382490124;gecko_x2;:\ 356487;1382490132;gecko_x2;i assure you it's all true. 356488;1382490143;KRS1;Of course it is. 356489;1382490149;KRS1;I'm with ya bro. 356490;1382490168;gecko_x2;:P 356491;1382490178;gecko_x2;i'm not boosting my ego 356492;1382490188;gecko_x2;just stating the obvious 356493;1382490201;gecko_x2;you go to any capital on this planet 356494;1382490209;gecko_x2;look up the biggest building there is 356495;1382490215;gecko_x2;and it's one of 7 banks 356496;1382490224;gecko_x2;try it and u see 356497;1382490246;KRS1;hmm. 356498;1382490255;gecko_x2;any capital 356499;1382490260;gecko_x2;biggest building 356500;1382490263;dub;fails in my country 356501;1382490263;gecko_x2;look at the logo 356502;1382490279;gecko_x2;which is? 356503;1382490338;dub;its not finland 356504;1382490352;gecko_x2;ofcourse, you have to know the etymology of the word 'bank' 356505;1382490359;dub;of course 356506;1382490361;gecko_x2;do you know where that comes from? 356507;1382490380;dub;let me guess, if its made of concrete and steel its secretly a bank 356508;1382490403;gecko_x2;before humanity knew of that word, all 'banks' were called credit anzthalt' 356509;1382490404;mircea_popescu;dub same root as bankruptcy, italian (lombard) middle ages. 356510;1382490416;gecko_x2;but that word was born in london england 356511;1382490433;asciilifeform;banca, money changer's bench. thought everybody knew that one. 356512;1382490443;gecko_x2;where they figured out that it's useful to build your gold deposit house on top of a hill 356513;1382490456;gecko_x2;or 'bank' in brittish english 356514;1382490465;mircea_popescu;gecko_gs2 nah. 356515;1382490498;gecko_x2;because it was easier to fend off the ppl rushing to the place once they realized that they had issued much more receits for the gold than there actually was gold 356516;1382490539;gecko_x2;building the vault on a 'bank' or a hill was a good idea because it slowed the ppl down, and made it easier to push them down with sharp sticks 356517;1382490550;gecko_x2;when there was a 'bank run' 356518;1382490553;mircea_popescu;no dood. banca yielded banque in french, and either or both of these yielded bank in english 356519;1382490556;mircea_popescu;sometime around 1500 or so 356520;1382490560;gecko_x2;no. 356521;1382490564;gecko_x2;no no no 356522;1382490569;dub;finland says no 356523;1382490585;gecko_x2;that's all 'official' 356524;1382490589;mircea_popescu;lol 356525;1382490600;gecko_x2;all 'official' stuff u learn in school is a lie 356526;1382490628;gecko_x2;the word bank comes from the bank of england 356527;1382490647;gecko_x2;which was the first gold vault to be built upon a hill 356528;1382490655;gecko_x2;to make it easier to fend off the people 356529;1382490667;gecko_x2;with sharp spears 356530;1382490694;gecko_x2;know your histiry dudes 356531;1382490699;gecko_x2;your REAL history 356532;1382490713;dub;he right 356533;1382490735;KRS1;idk we just some dumb bitcoin monkeys what do we know 356534;1382490737;mircea_popescu;so what's the alternative etymology fior bankruptcy then ? 356535;1382490740;mircea_popescu;hill got ruptured ? 356536;1382490756;gecko_x2;pretty much yeah 356537;1382490782;gecko_x2;there is a even more interesting etymology that ties into this 356538;1382490783;mircea_popescu;gecko_gs2 you ever been in the old bank of england building ? 356539;1382490795;gecko_x2;if you want to know, or should i stfu? 356540;1382490803;gecko_x2;mp nope. 356541;1382490814;mircea_popescu;well... you'd have known its not actually on a hill. 356542;1382490815;gecko_x2;the real history of the tie 356543;1382490820;dub;if you fold up the bank does it look like twin towers? 356544;1382490825;dub;I bet it does 356545;1382490836;gecko_x2;mp afaik it actually was 356546;1382490848;mircea_popescu;how the fuck it actually was, it's close enough to the thames. 356547;1382490861;gecko_x2;but i'm no expert.. i just like etymology 356548;1382490881;gecko_x2;and i really like to know the TRUE reason for things 356549;1382490928;gecko_x2;which is not the same as you are thought through these school books 356550;1382490937;gecko_x2;what was that main publisher again 356551;1382490969;mircea_popescu;but you know, some proposed reason doersn't become true just because it contradicts the common answer. 356552;1382490994;dub;dood it becomes true when alx jones screams it 356553;1382491018;gecko_x2;dun remember, anyways check the back's of every school book published in the west 356554;1382491023;mircea_popescu;anyway. the old lady of threadneedle street. 356555;1382491029;gecko_x2;and it will lead you back to the illuminati 356556;1382491035;mircea_popescu;aka the company and governor of the bank of england 356557;1382491053;gecko_x2;this is not aj data 356558;1382491057;gecko_x2;not at all 356559;1382491081;gecko_x2;but aj is right in his own way 356560;1382491100;gecko_x2;ah 356561;1382491105;gecko_x2;was it gummerus 356562;1382491114;gecko_x2;and wellin & göös or something 356563;1382491122;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61000001 BTC [-] 356564;1382491123;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5073 @ 0.00085765 = 4.3509 BTC [-] 356565;1382491123;gecko_x2;every school book in the north 356566;1382491150;dub;for the love of god, shut the fuck up 356567;1382491158;gecko_x2;lol 356568;1382491160;gecko_x2;k 356569;1382491166;dub;and preferably kill yourself immediately 356570;1382491171;gecko_x2;:( 356571;1382491183;Vexual;do the spears msut be spharp? 356572;1382491200;gecko_x2;i didn't like that dub 356573;1382491219;gecko_x2;i go away now 356574;1382491219;dub;yet you live on.. 356575;1382491255;Vexual;and thats why we have skyscrapers 356576;1382491318;gecko_x2;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIWgHEbQsGw 356577;1382491319;ozbot;Ratt- Dance - YouTube 356578;1382491402;mircea_popescu;anyway, the notion of putting a bank uphill is silly... all the customers'd get tired hauling all the gold 356579;1382491407;mircea_popescu;you want it low down 356580;1382491456;Vexual;security by gravity 356581;1382491480;KRS1;Anyone here know anything about trading gold 356582;1382491793;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 727 @ 0.00085934 = 0.6247 BTC [+] 356583;1382491806;gecko_x2;uhh mp 356584;1382491835;gecko_x2;the origins of fractional reserves stems from the gold receits in amsterdam 356585;1382491866;gecko_x2;where the ppl stored their gold in a safe vault for a receit 356586;1382491899;gecko_x2;later they noticed that periodically there was always a bank run 356587;1382491920;gecko_x2;when the ppl noticed that there were way more receits than there could ever be gold 356588;1382491942;gecko_x2;and so they built the bank vault on a hill to slow the ppl down once they came running 356589;1382491959;nubbins`;my sides 356590;1382491984;Vexual;theres no hills in amsterdam 356591;1382491994;gecko_x2;no 356592;1382492000;gecko_x2;but in london there is 356593;1382492019;mod6;when i think of finland: http://i.qkme.me/3u7ql0.jpg 356594;1382492042;asciilifeform;mod6: whatever happened to that fellow? 356595;1382492044;gecko_x2;nice. 356596;1382492065;mod6;probably eaten by a grue. 356597;1382492090;mod6;or got his dick stuck in an iceberg. 356598;1382492095;gecko_x2;"The Bank's headquarters have been in London's main financial district, the City of London, on Threadneedle Street, since 1734. It is sometimes known by the metonym The Old Lady of Threadneedle Street or The Old Lady, a name taken from the legend of Sarah Whitehead, whose ghost is said to haunt the Bank's garden.[12] The busy road junction outside is known as Bank junction." 356599;1382492123;mircea_popescu;mod6 honestly, all finn chicks i ever met were pretty hot and kinda slutty 356600;1382492124;dub;http://p.bfram.es/finland-be-afraid-be-very-afraid.jpg 356601;1382492125;mircea_popescu;nice skin too 356602;1382492137;gecko_x2;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_of_England 356603;1382492138;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform im pretty sure it was a sa op and got neatly closed. 356604;1382492141;dub;isnt there like 9 chicks to every dude 356605;1382492148;mircea_popescu;dub possibly. perkele. 356606;1382492154;gecko_x2;"When the idea and reality of the National Debt came about during the 18th century this was also managed by the Bank. By the charter renewal in 1781 it was also the bankers' bank – keeping enough gold to pay its notes on demand until 26 February 1797 when war had so diminished gold reserves that the government prohibited the Bank from paying out in gold. This prohibition lasted until 356607;1382492154;gecko_x2;1821." 356608;1382492191;mod6;huh, well that seems like a saving grace. 356609;1382492213;mircea_popescu;gecko_gs2 no, actually, it weas much earlier. the 1711 south sea bubble was a mostly failed attempt to finance the english natl debt with paper. 356610;1382492222;mircea_popescu;there had been a natl debt since there was a nation. everywhere. 356611;1382492247;gecko_x2;gold was before debt 356612;1382492268;gecko_x2;gold carries no debt 356613;1382492281;gecko_x2;only storing gold carries debt 356614;1382492301;gecko_x2;and storing it.. they tried with holes foro ages 356615;1382492308;gecko_x2;for* 356616;1382492323;gecko_x2;until they realized a bank was much better than a hole 356617;1382492349;gecko_x2;because when the ppl come storming, you dont want to sit in a hole 356618;1382492359;gecko_x2;you want to be uphill 356619;1382492366;nubbins`;sitting in a bank 356620;1382492372;nubbins`;exchanging bitcoins in the lobby 356621;1382492372;gecko_x2;right 356622;1382492398;Vexual;id rather be in a hole 356623;1382492415;mircea_popescu;i never heard of a foxhill... 356624;1382492418;nubbins`;does the hole have pens you can use? 356625;1382492444;gecko_x2;i don't know if any of you know that 'the city' really means 356626;1382492478;gecko_x2;are you aware that today the city has their own police force, their own army, their own justice system and their own judges? 356627;1382492493;gecko_x2;if you take a trip to london tomorrow 356628;1382492499;mircea_popescu;and their own obgyns ? 356629;1382492503;gecko_x2;and walk into 'the city' 356630;1382492509;nubbins`;hahaha 356631;1382492513;gecko_x2;and do something to get arrested 356632;1382492523;gecko_x2;the police that arrest you will carry guns 356633;1382492525;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00085372 = 2.5612 BTC [-] 356634;1382492535;gecko_x2;which the rest of the english police do not 356635;1382492555;nubbins`;police not carrying guns is sort of the exception 356636;1382492565;gecko_x2;because they are a separate police force from a separate legal juridistiction 356637;1382492586;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 8696 @ 0.0011499 = 9.9995 BTC [+] {2} 356638;1382492598;gecko_x2;you need to be aware of this shit my friends 356639;1382492604;mircea_popescu;http://nypost.com/2013/10/06/city-park-police-want-to-carry-guns/‎ 356640;1382492644;gecko_x2;the city has their own army too 356641;1382492663;gecko_x2;headquarters are called MI5 356642;1382492697;gecko_x2;the rest of england's secret service is called MI6 356643;1382492706;gecko_x2;2 different entities 356644;1382492708;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 818 @ 0.00223965 = 1.832 BTC [+] {7} 356645;1382492751;nubbins`;"We’re police officers without the salary, the title and the gun." 356646;1382492769;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SMG] 1000 @ 0.0001402 = 0.1402 BTC [-] {2} 356647;1382492786;gecko_x2;in bond movies they are always referring to MI6 356648;1382492796;gecko_x2;never ever referring to MI5 356649;1382492814;gecko_x2;that's also by design 356650;1382492848;gecko_x2;you need to learn your fucking history 356651;1382492859;dub;have you got kids? 356652;1382492873;gecko_x2;it's 4:47 am here 356653;1382492879;gecko_x2;what do you think? 356654;1382492911;dub;I guess that means no, how much bitcion would it take to have you sterilised? 356655;1382492921;KRS1;HAHA 356656;1382492925;gecko_x2;oh.. nice one 356657;1382492930;dub;seriously, the genome is broken enough without you polluting it further 356658;1382492938;gecko_x2;k 356659;1382492944;gecko_x2;i go afk now then 356660;1382492945;dub;have you considered homosexuality? 356661;1382492984;gecko_x2;do we have a change agent here? 356662;1382492990;gecko_x2;who cares.. cyas 356663;1382493105;Vexual;he makes a good point tho 356664;1382493159;KRS1;just shh vexual dont get him started again 356665;1382493188;KRS1;the IQ of this channel went down about 30 356666;1382493196;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4312 @ 0.00085324 = 3.6792 BTC [-] {2} 356667;1382493409;Vexual;id think he will have confused himself into unconciousness soon 356668;1382493538;gecko_x2;"bank (n.1) 356669;1382493538;gecko_x2;"financial institution," late 15c., from either Old Italian banca or Middle French banque (itself from the Italian word), both meaning "table" (the notion is of the moneylender's exchange table), from a Germanic source (cf. Old High German bank "bench"); see bank (n.2)." 356670;1382493548;gecko_x2;"Bank holiday is from 1871, though the tradition is as old as the Bank of England. To cry all the way to the bank was coined 1956 by flamboyant pianist Liberace, after a Madison Square Garden concert that was packed with patrons but panned by critics." 356671;1382493569;gecko_x2;"bank (n.2) 356672;1382493569;gecko_x2;"earthen incline, edge of a river," c.1200, probably in Old English but not attested in surviving documents, from a Scandinavian source such as Old Norse banki, Old Danish banke "sandbank," from Proto-Germanic *bangkon "slope," cognate with *bankiz "shelf" (see bench (n.))." 356673;1382493579;gecko_x2;"bank (v.) 356674;1382493579;gecko_x2;"to act as a banker," 1727, from bank (n.1). As "to deposit in a bank" from 1833. Figurative sense of "to rely on" (i.e. "to put money on") is from 1884, U.S. colloquial. Meaning "to ascend," as of an incline, is from 1892. In aeronautics, from 1911. Related: Banked; banking." 356675;1382493611;dub;he's gone full retard 356676;1382493661;gecko_x2;"Meaning "to ascend," as of an incline" 356677;1382493668;gecko_x2;there u go buddy 356678;1382493676;gecko_x2;coming to you buddy 356679;1382493765;gecko_x2;bench (n.) 356680;1382493765;gecko_x2;Old English benc "long seat," from Proto-Germanic *bankiz "bank of earth," perhaps here "man-made earthwork," later "bench, table" (cf. Old Frisian bank "bench," Old Norse bekkr, Danish bænk, Middle Dutch banc, Old High German banch), from PIE root *bheg- "to break." Used for "office of a judge" since late 13c. Sporting sense "reserve of players" (in baseball, North American football, 356681;1382493765;gecko_x2;etc.) is by 1909, from literal sense of place where players sit when not in action (by 1889). 356682;1382493778;gecko_x2;bench (v.) 356683;1382493778;gecko_x2;"to take out of the game," 1902, from bench (n.) in the sporting sense. Related: Benched; benching. Old English also had a verb form, but it meant "to make benches." 356684;1382493808;gecko_x2;bank = man made hill 356685;1382493820;gecko_x2;there u go buddy 356686;1382493824;gecko_x2;now i goto bed :p 356687;1382493858;gecko_x2;"bed (v.) 356688;1382493858;gecko_x2;Old English beddian "to provide with a bed or lodgings," from bed (n.). From c.1300 as "to go to bed," also "to copulate with, to go to bed with;" 1440 as "to lay out (land) in plots or beds." Related: Bedded; bedding." 356689;1382493866;gecko_x2;bed (n.) 356690;1382493867;gecko_x2;Old English bedd "bed, couch, resting place, garden plot," from Proto-Germanic *badjam "sleeping place dug in the ground" (cf. Old Frisian, Old Saxon bed, Middle Dutch bedde, Old Norse beðr, Old High German betti, German Bett, Gothic badi "bed"), from PIE root *bhedh- "to dig, pierce" (cf. Hittite beda- "to pierce, prick," Greek bothyros "pit," Latin fossa "ditch," Lithuanian bedre 356691;1382493867;gecko_x2;"to dig," Breton bez "grave"). Both "sleeping" and "gardening" senses are in Old English. Meaning "bottom of a lake, sea, watercourse" is from 1580s. 356692;1382493872;KRS1;good god are you trying to fill up the logs or something 356693;1382493886;KRS1;u might be more annoying than that other gecko from the insurance commercials. 356694;1382493903;gecko_x2;that lizard is funny 356695;1382493907;gecko_x2;i'm not 356696;1382493914;KRS1;nope 356697;1382493919;KRS1;not entertaining in the least bit. 356698;1382493924;gecko_x2;coming to you buddy 356699;1382493933;gecko_x2;i been watching strike back 356700;1382493941;gecko_x2;the best tv action serie evar. 356701;1382494259;nubbins`;http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/cbc-stories-on-leaked-report-irresponsible-minister-1.2159429 356702;1382494260;ozbot;CBC stories on leaked report 'irresponsible': minister - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News 356703;1382494588;adis99;hey can we remove password on the new bet? 356704;1382494594;adis99;http://bitbet.us/bet/570/bitcoin-will-drop-back-below-150-before-end/ 356705;1382494596;ozbot;BitBet - Bitcoin will drop back below $150 before end of 2013 356706;1382494660;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.6489 = 5.8401 BTC [+] {3} 356707;1382494676;BingoBoingo;adis99: It seems essentially by publishing the password. 356708;1382494716;adis99;in comments? 356709;1382494947;nubbins`;man, i just watched the video from that cbc article and it's making my brain hurt 356710;1382494979;BingoBoingo;adis99: Do you have a better place to publish it? 356711;1382495052;adis99;well i didnt mean to make it private ;) 356712;1382495084;adis99;i dont mind if its unlocked or password published 356713;1382495156;BingoBoingo;adis99: I'm kind of wondering why they allowed such a puny bet to be protected from market forces. 356714;1382495270;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.611 BTC [-] 356715;1382496002;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.611 BTC [-] 356716;1382496368;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00084879 = 5.0927 BTC [-] {2} 356717;1382496551;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4912 @ 0.00085327 = 4.1913 BTC [+] {2} 356718;1382496762;adis99;sry lost internet 356719;1382496810;adis99;so you guys think Bitcoin price will go below 150 USD or not? 356720;1382496898;gecko_x2;absolutely 356721;1382496914;gecko_x2;after it goes to $2000 first 356722;1382496947;gecko_x2;maybe even NINE THOUSAND 356723;1382496993;gecko_x2;look mr. adis99 356724;1382497018;gecko_x2;the mere fact that you ask this question practically guarantees the outcome 356725;1382497028;gecko_x2;by the laws of the universe 356726;1382497038;gecko_x2;but you dont know when 356727;1382497045;gecko_x2;that's the real question 356728;1382497058;gecko_x2;WHEN will it go to 150 356729;1382497066;adis99;well let me specify, by the end of this year? 356730;1382497077;gecko_x2;and when it gores there, what will 150 mean? 356731;1382497085;gecko_x2;oh 356732;1382497089;gecko_x2;well. no. 356733;1382497100;gecko_x2;or maybe yes 356734;1382497104;adis99;how can you be sure? 356735;1382497107;gecko_x2;but then again, if that happens 356736;1382497109;adis99;ohh ok 356737;1382497115;gecko_x2;what will 150 be worth? 356738;1382497119;gecko_x2;what will it mean? 356739;1382497123;adis99;it that happens i win bet 356740;1382497124;adis99;:P 356741;1382497131;gecko_x2;will it equal 300 od today? 356742;1382497133;gecko_x2;or more? 356743;1382497135;gecko_x2;or less? 356744;1382497142;gecko_x2;you see 356745;1382497159;gecko_x2;in this life, everything you think will happen will happen 356746;1382497170;gecko_x2;because you are the life itself 356747;1382497175;gecko_x2;you see? 356748;1382497180;gecko_x2;now, i go for a smoke 356749;1382497202;adis99;i see, sounds like you a a philosopher ;) 356750;1382497222;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.39 BTC [-] 356751;1382497240;gecko_x2;no i just hate the illuminist black magicians 356752;1382497588;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.64737498 = 5.179 BTC [+] {2} 356753;1382497649;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.64889999 = 6.489 BTC [+] {4} 356754;1382497710;KRS1;oh god again 356755;1382497732;KRS1;dude go to #illuminati or something 356756;1382498015;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.0008601 = 3.4404 BTC [+] 356757;1382498137;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1825 @ 0.00014894 = 0.2718 BTC [+] 356758;1382498186;BingoBoingo;TheSeven: How is Amazing Labcoin Amazing along on Cryptostocks? 356759;1382498452;Kleeck_;Amazing, really. 356760;1382498502;BingoBoingo;Kleeck_: You try the Phuctor yet? 356761;1382498540;Kleeck_;No sir. 356762;1382498550;Kleeck_;How do I phuct the phuctor? 356763;1382499166;BingoBoingo;Kleeck_: First or Fist you have a GPG public key you paste into http://nosuchlabs.com then you bookmark it and return to check it periodically, and so the Phuctor works. 356764;1382499186;Kleeck_;Why do I care about Phuctor? 356765;1382499192;Kleeck_;aside from the awesome name? 356766;1382499393;BingoBoingo;Kleeck_: Because it offers a service that was wanted.I tells you if public keys were obviously weak. It is amazingly more valuable to test your correspondents keys than your own since encryption depends on theirs anyway. 356767;1382499393;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 356768;1382499418;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6589 BTC [+] 356769;1382499784;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 55 @ 0.00199999 = 0.11 BTC [-] 356770;1382500150;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8550 @ 0.0008601 = 7.3539 BTC [+] 356771;1382500301;BingoBoingo;Luke-Jr: Any thoughts on Phuctor> 356772;1382501370;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3375 @ 0.00085504 = 2.8858 BTC [-] {2} 356773;1382502102;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 131 @ 0.002 = 0.262 BTC [+] 356774;1382503444;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 511 @ 0.00568 = 2.9025 BTC [-] 356775;1382503688;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7839 @ 0.0008602 = 6.7431 BTC [+] {2} 356776;1382503798;nubbins`;http://imgur.com/aTkQXFa 356777;1382503799;ozbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 356778;1382503801;nubbins`;rough draft 356779;1382503993;nubbins`;idea is to make it look sort of similar to an old-style bearer bond 356780;1382504000;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: Maybe keep the GPG signed contracts in their native file format? 356781;1382504025;nubbins`;BingoBoingo: this is more for show than anything 356782;1382504049;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: Well, then. 356783;1382504057;nubbins`;this would be silkscreened onto nice 100% cotton paper 356784;1382504111;nubbins`;skeuomorphism at its finest :P 356785;1382504237;BingoBoingo;Beautiful nubbins` but generally cotton paper of archival quality is paired with ink to last rather than color to look good 356786;1382504267;nubbins`;i know, this is what i do for a living ;) 356787;1382504270;BingoBoingo;Silkscreening paper kind of sucks generally too. 356788;1382504288;nubbins`;you can silkscreen on any sort of paper. we use acid-free archival rag 356789;1382504293;Vexual;cute cert 356790;1382504303;nubbins`;speedball products, these are not :) 356791;1382504376;Vexual;are those hops leaves at the top? 356792;1382504481;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 0.07499999 = 0.3 BTC [-] 356793;1382504489;nubbins`;similar, but no 356794;1382504592;nubbins`;http://imgur.com/G4P4p3H 356795;1382504593;ozbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 356796;1382504599;nubbins`;"S.MG 2013" added to bottom 356797;1382504621;nubbins`;i wouldn't mind adding some of those spirograph-style curvy lines 356798;1382504681;Vexual;hops symbolise truth 356799;1382504711;Vexual;to me that is, im not offering some alternate history of the world 356800;1382504834;nubbins`;fun fact, hops and cannabis are members of the same family 356801;1382504847;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7711 @ 0.00085527 = 6.595 BTC [-] {2} 356802;1382504861;Vexual;i am aware of that fun fact 356803;1382504879;Vexual;only two known members of cannabe or whathaveyou 356804;1382504908;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 517 @ 0.00085242 = 0.4407 BTC [-] 356805;1382504973;Vexual;i wonder if it was an ice age divergence? one being cold climate and one warm 356806;1382505019;nubbins`;who knows? interesting how they both ended up being enjoyed as intoxicants 356807;1382505027;Vexual;yes 356808;1382505110;Vexual;and vikinings tended to prefer ale where chinese preferred weed 356809;1382505181;Vexual;theres some symbiotic epigenetic unknown stuff happening there 356810;1382505199;nubbins`;i watched a documentary a while back that was about apples, tulips and weed 356811;1382505232;nubbins`;oh, and potatoes 356812;1382505253;nubbins`;on the surface, not much in common 356813;1382505287;Vexual;all been influenced by man? 356814;1382505288;nubbins`;but all have successfully spread from one small geographic area across the globe, because of their relationship to humans 356815;1382505291;nubbins`;exactly 356816;1382505299;nubbins`;http://video.pbs.org/program/botany-of-desire/ 356817;1382505300;ozbot;Botany of Desire | Watch Online | PBS Video 356818;1382505333;Vexual;genetic engineering of plants has done much less than so many generations of selective breeding 356819;1382505394;nubbins`;nod 356820;1382505466;Vexual;thats not to say new gene slpicing tools arent exciting 356821;1382505538;nubbins`;no, but the varieties that were around before genetic engineering could be said to have so far withstood the test of time, which isn't a trivial test 356822;1382505544;nubbins`;engineered varieties, who knows? 356823;1382505559;BingoBoingo;The only think more boring than watching grass grow just might be watching plants fuck. 356824;1382505573;nubbins`;i mean, it was what, a year ago? two? that it was suddenly announced "lel, whoops, BPA gives you cancer" 356825;1382505579;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1297 @ 0.00190777 = 2.4744 BTC [-] {4} 356826;1382505621;nubbins`;when the "lel, whoops" has the ability to grow beyond a certain scope, it becomes much less of an attractive option, in my mind 356827;1382505640;nubbins`;which is why i'm cautious about my optimism towards engineering 356828;1382505685;nubbins`;or any number of things. lel, whoops, 30,000kg of hamburger meat recalled because we contaminated it with e. coli! 356829;1382505746;Vexual;dna is a tricky machine 356830;1382505754;nubbins`;the trickiest 356831;1382505780;Vexual;probably the coolest too 356832;1382505791;nubbins`;it's pure hubris to assume you can fully understand the results of manipulating such a complex thing 356833;1382505793;nubbins`;yeah 356834;1382505846;Vexual;im out of touch with current tools for mapping genes 356835;1382505914;nubbins`;it's been so long since i even touched up on the basics, all i have left now are opinions :P 356836;1382505930;Vexual;same 356837;1382505996;Vexual;ive got half a memory of some cool shit happening that ive blocked to avoid becoming a mad scientist 356838;1382506006;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.61428574 = 4.3 BTC [-] {3} 356839;1382506077;Vexual;i remember now, theres on open source software package where you can create dna with object oriented visual language 356840;1382506107;Vexual;and you can get it printed 356841;1382506159;Vexual;i think they check its not airbourne swineflu or whatever 356842;1382506215;nubbins`;what! 356843;1382506225;Vexual;too many splices gets very expensive if memory serves 356844;1382506243;nubbins`;insane 356845;1382506259;Vexual;its loaded with a lot of known outcomes i think 356846;1382506438;Vexual;yeah genetics is still going places, people forget 356847;1382506459;mircea_popescu;nubbins` haha investry 356848;1382506471;nubbins`;right?! 356849;1382506728;Vexual;ive sent my dna to every lab in the us 356850;1382506806;mircea_popescu;of course it could not really be made into a real bearer bond... 356851;1382506807;mircea_popescu;hm! 356852;1382506814;nubbins`;oh no, of course 356853;1382506817;Vexual;apparently im susceptable to alcoholism 356854;1382506819;mircea_popescu;unless, of course, it came as a cardano. in which case it COULD be a bearer instrument 356855;1382506857;nubbins`;Vexual: now you can't hash the result and use it as a brainwallet to store all your funds. 356856;1382506872;nubbins`;home sequencing is the way to go ;p 356857;1382506877;Vexual;they're out there now tho 356858;1382506878;mircea_popescu;linked by imgur to nubbins` investry http://imgur.com/gallery/oZRUE 356859;1382506888;Vexual;at least i have plausable deniability 356860;1382506896;nubbins`;^ 356861;1382506913;Vexual;shopped 356862;1382506921;nubbins`;also linked, http://imgur.com/gallery/Tv68u 356863;1382506949;nubbins`;"overall, i turned my life around" 356864;1382506953;Vexual;needs shopping 356865;1382507025;mircea_popescu;he's gay now ? 356866;1382507073;nubbins`;i feel like there's a pun hiding in the last picture, but i can't quite find it 356867;1382507209;nubbins`;mircea_popescu: more of a fancy paper wallet than anything. cardanos as bearer bonds is an interesting idea though 356868;1382507226;nubbins`;imagine! 356869;1382507273;Vexual;hey mp, if i start a genetics lab that does splices for btc, can i float for free on mpes? 356870;1382507300;nubbins`;heh 356871;1382507334;Vexual;it will be an ongoing concern from the outset, repleat with bespectacled korean hotties 356872;1382507470;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1098 @ 0.00085438 = 0.9381 BTC [+] 356873;1382507531;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 910 @ 0.00085645 = 0.7794 BTC [+] 356874;1382507775;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 0.07200001 = 0.144 BTC [-] 356875;1382507951;nubbins`;okay, time to sleep 356876;1382507958;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.60969998 = 6.097 BTC [-] {6} 356877;1382507962;Vexual;ithe ipo money would be to install a manager and lab the fuck out of that shit 356878;1382508080;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 250 @ 0.00566349 = 1.4159 BTC [-] {5} 356879;1382508106;BingoBoingo;I can't believe I haven't though of abusing Cardanos into bearer bonds yet. 356880;1382508134;Vexual;maybe put a petent lawyer on the books 356881;1382508141;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.6 = 1.2 BTC [-] 356882;1382508448;Vexual;i just saw a gecko hiding behind my toilet cistern, hows that for imagry? 356883;1382508568;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 201 @ 0.00199999 = 0.402 BTC [+] 356884;1382508584;Vexual;a crazy psychiatris wrote a long book, and a normal human is expected to see a penis where a skyscraper is? 356885;1382508701;BingoBoingo;Vexual: Lawyers aren't that worth that much or I would have hired one without a drive through for their office. 356886;1382508765;Vexual;patent lawyers are gold bullion 356887;1382508793;Vexual;by volume 356888;1382508834;BingoBoingo;I'm not sure Vexual, I mean we are all pink on the inside... 356889;1382508858;Vexual;true enough, and time marches on 356890;1382508900;Vexual;but money is money 356891;1382508910;Vexual;as the finance experts will tell you 356892;1382508950;Vexual;and most is what is true of dollars is true of bitcoin 356893;1382509033;Vexual;*for 356894;1382509172;Vexual;bitcoin is still in the real of philosiphers 356895;1382509185;Vexual;not yet a science 356896;1382509189;Vexual;perhaps an art 356897;1382509270;Vexual;you can copy paste something from wikipedia, or imagine it through the eyes of your favourite ancient author 356898;1382509372;Vexual;but money talks and bullshit walks, as willful man will tell 356899;1382509531;Vexual;for those who are unfamiliar with the internation, ill give you this piece 356900;1382509544;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4633 @ 0.00085234 = 3.9489 BTC [-] {2} 356901;1382509544;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0057 = 0.57 BTC [+] 356902;1382509602;Vexual;ive rode a wild bull round round a yard to win a five pound bet 356903;1382509619;Vexual;but this is sure the derndest ride that ive encountered yet 356904;1382509654;Vexual;ill give that two wheeled outlaw best, it's shaken all my nerve 356905;1382509692;Vexual;To feel it whistle through the air and plunge and buck and swerve 356906;1382509727;Vexual;but what ill sit while hide will hold and girths and straps are tight 356907;1382509756;Vexual;i'll ride this here two wheeled concern right straight away at sight 356908;1382509788;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2550 @ 0.00084647 = 2.1585 BTC [-] 356909;1382509920;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9mxhayU7GA 356910;1382509920;ozbot;Damian "Jr Gong" Marley - Old War Chant (Mr. Marley) - YouTube 356911;1382510032;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 66 @ 0.0058 = 0.3828 BTC [+] 356912;1382510184;BingoBoingo;I guess I'll warn anyone invested in Bitcoinsports.eu that this is an active betslip I own http://bitcoinsports.eu/bet/6d7fa?destination=bet-slip 356913;1382510395;Vexual;i just got an unusual sign of regression 356914;1382510424;Vexual;but i doubt its related to the bitcoin dollar price 356915;1382510468;Vexual;it was a bird i havent seen for a year 356916;1382510522;Vexual;always tied in two 356917;1382510528;Vexual;she shat on the floor 356918;1382510704;Vexual;then she took off on black and white wings 356919;1382511098;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SJFaUqwuQY 356920;1382511098;ozbot;Afroman - Hungry Hustler - YouTube 356921;1382511356;BingoBoingo;Vexual: Bitcoin Dollar price will be irrelevant in not less than a year. Before long the importance will reverse. 356922;1382511373;Vexual;thats why i have no idea how to sell 356923;1382511385;Vexual;ill wait til i can buy something i want 356924;1382511405;BigBitz;I will buy your coin from you :) 356925;1382511429;Vexual;you got a large parcel of fruitful land? 356926;1382511440;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZyVZFJGX5g 356927;1382511441;ozbot;Black Sabbath - Paranoid(1970 - Music Video) - YouTube 356928;1382511448;BigBitz;I do not. I have cash :) 356929;1382511467;Vexual;if its usd, you can save your keyboard strokes 356930;1382511479;BigBitz;USD lol 356931;1382511482;BigBitz;GBP ftw 356932;1382511493;Vexual;yuan perhaps 356933;1382511506;BigBitz;Sure I can get you JPY :) 356934;1382511519;Vexual;fuck off with your fake money 356935;1382511537;BigBitz;... 356936;1382511552;Vexual;no really im not selling 356937;1382511576;BigBitz;keep holding. 356938;1382511580;BigBitz;keep strong. 356939;1382511589;Vexual;im looking for some nice acres, anywhere 356940;1382511608;BigBitz;you must have a lot of bitcoin :) 356941;1382511627;Vexual;2 bitcoin will buy a nice acxre in 10 years 356942;1382511654;BigBitz;Hopefully :) 356943;1382511656;BigBitz;bbl. 356944;1382511680;Vexual;at todays land prices 356945;1382511724;Vexual;more billion humans gonna want more food 356946;1382511787;Vexual;life gets cheaper, prices get steeper, that s the future boys 356947;1382511939;BingoBoingo;I'll be honest. I would part with some coin soon for a Dodge Stealth in decent condition. 356948;1382511964;Vexual;:) 356949;1382512005;Vexual;sounds nice 356950;1382512047;BingoBoingo;Vexual: The thing is I'd have to find the sort of redneck who has both a Dodge Stealth to sell and an awareness of what Bitcoin is. 356951;1382512047;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnYiQ2FVG8I 356952;1382512047;ozbot;The Black Eyed Peas - Weekend ft. Esthero - YouTube 356953;1382512122;Vexual;nice cars are tempting, but they dont make income aunless one is a limo driver 356954;1382512163;Vexual;im not rich enough to spend 30k on 4 wheels 356955;1382512235;Vexual;i like to keep a car with no ecu in case of emp 356956;1382512371;Vexual;also incase real style is required 356957;1382512504;Vexual;buy an old 70's mustang and make it nice with extra money you stupid american fuck 356958;1382512658;Vexual;a two door 70s ford is no less than 50 in australia 356959;1382512727;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5QYYlfXQFk 356960;1382512727;ozbot;Mad Max chase - YouTube 356961;1382512777;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 10 @ 0.075 = 0.75 BTC [+] 356962;1382512899;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1000 @ 0.00114889 = 1.1489 BTC [-] 356963;1382513021;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 0.075 = 0.375 BTC [+] 356964;1382513204;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 500 @ 0.00114889 = 0.5744 BTC [-] 356965;1382513326;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 101 @ 0.00114889 = 0.116 BTC [-] 356966;1382513449;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7781 @ 0.00084458 = 6.5717 BTC [-] 356967;1382513875;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.62989997 = 1.8897 BTC [+] 356968;1382514363;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.62989997 = 1.8897 BTC [+] 356969;1382514424;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.62989997 BTC [+] 356970;1382514668;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5529 @ 0.00084544 = 4.6744 BTC [+] {2} 356971;1382515279;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 19 @ 0.0079 = 0.1501 BTC [-] 356972;1382516864;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 0.075 = 0.375 BTC [+] 356973;1382517108;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 492 @ 0.00114889 = 0.5653 BTC [-] {3} 356974;1382517291;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.62982726 = 6.9281 BTC [-] {3} 356975;1382518084;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 342 @ 0.00109767 = 0.3754 BTC [-] {10} 356976;1382520341;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 105 @ 0.00565657 = 0.5939 BTC [-] 356977;1382521256;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 17236 @ 0.00014718 = 2.5368 BTC [+] {4} 356978;1382521744;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.62998 BTC [+] 356979;1382522049;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3150 @ 0.00084324 = 2.6562 BTC [-] 356980;1382522415;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 95 @ 0.00108501 = 0.1031 BTC [-] 356981;1382523635;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.002 = 1 BTC [+] 356982;1382523693;jurov;http://www.reddit.com/r/SilkroadUNcensored/comments/1p0ogt/time_to_let_the_cat_out_of_the_hat/ 356983;1382523694;ozbot;Time to let the cat out of the hat. : SilkroadUNcensored 356984;1382523729;jurov;another lulzy piece how proactive is btc community toward scammers, silkroad edition 356985;1382523809;jurov;and much more 356986;1382523830;davout;jurov: scam hunting is good 356987;1382523834;davout;it keeps retards busy 356988;1382523865;mircea_popescu;jurov interesting. 356989;1382523879;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.00108501 = 0.1085 BTC [-] 356990;1382523993;mircea_popescu;What was even more interesting, was that the notice used a high quality logo unable to be found by anyone else despite an hour of searching, until a random user popped in and said I found it in 2 minutes by using Google. No, you did not. I spent 30 minutes staring at Google images, and I found nothing. 356991;1382524014;mircea_popescu;funny how the dork mind works. "i can't do shit therefore shit can't be done stop lying to me!!11" 356992;1382524036;davout;"His nose is constantly being edited." --> the jews, always the jews 356993;1382524058;mircea_popescu;"The mouth which comes from this photo is one shameful mistake." whay ?! 356994;1382524068;mircea_popescu;was silkroad built atop a hill ? 356995;1382524185;mircea_popescu;anyway, the "wrong guy" suspicions aren't entirely without merit, even if reddit makes a typically redditarded soup out of it. 356996;1382524307;mircea_popescu;"The FBI has not made a single official comment via any of their press channels. The FBI media relations team has updated nearly every day before" ahahah forum mentality, i think the government is a scam because it hasn't posted in the thread for a week!!1 356997;1382525282;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 258 @ 0.00108 = 0.2786 BTC [-] {3} 356998;1382526022;KRS1;heh 356999;1382526158;KRS1;is bitkoins.com really the #1 Bitcoin news and forum site 357000;1382526342;mircea_popescu;totally. 357001;1382526384;mircea_popescu;godaddy domain Registered OnMarch 30, 2013. so it has to be. 357002;1382526563;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.62998 = 1.26 BTC [+] 357003;1382526565;KRS1;never heard of it heh 357004;1382526692;krlbrgmn;mircea_popescu re: http://trilema.com/2013/things-that-matter-these-days-things-that-dont-matter-these-days/ "A good chunk of the recent hashpower is split roughly evenly between the Chinese and the US government." 357005;1382526705;krlbrgmn;mircea_popescu can you please give more hints? 357006;1382526807;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00083981 = 4.535 BTC [-] 357007;1382527712;KRS1;you might have to ask him for a complimentary Trilema subscription, there are hints in there from time to time. 357008;1382527966;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2250 @ 0.00084216 = 1.8949 BTC [+] 357009;1382528759;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.611 BTC [-] 357010;1382528881;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.002 = 2 BTC [+] {2} 357011;1382529050;mircea_popescu;krlbrgmn not atm 357012;1382529062;kakobrekla;http://imgur.com/2ISD5dB 357013;1382529062;ozbot;...I accept nothing. - Imgur 357014;1382529064;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00084287 = 2.36 BTC [+] {3} 357015;1382529122;mircea_popescu;good one 357016;1382529573;mircea_popescu;<BingoBoingo> adis99: I'm kind of wondering why they allowed such a puny bet to be protected from market forces. << mod just forgot private bets need 10btc in zeroconf. 357017;1382529613;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 19 @ 0.00566 = 0.1075 BTC [-] 357018;1382529614;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69348300 BTC to 1`386`966 shares, 50 satoshi per share 357019;1382530589;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 358 @ 0.002 = 0.716 BTC [+] 357020;1382530894;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5150 @ 0.00083975 = 4.3247 BTC [-] {2} 357021;1382531504;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00084452 = 1.0979 BTC [+] 357022;1382531748;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00083917 = 4.5315 BTC [-] {2} 357023;1382532471;kakobrekla;Sorry kakobrekla, you are banned from posting or sending personal messages on this forum. 357024;1382532471;kakobrekla;Reposting deleted posts (60 days) 357025;1382532524;kakobrekla;you know, i wouldnt have to be reposting if the idiots wouldnt be deleting. 357026;1382532562;kleeck;http://www.sadtrombone.com/?play=true 357027;1382532563;ozbot;Sad Trombone 357028;1382532572;pankkake;Congratulations! 357029;1382532680;kakobrekla;thanks! 357030;1382532713;davout;being banned from the forums sounds like a promotion! 357031;1382532760;kleeck;Yeah... reposting. SO HARD. SO NOBLE. 357032;1382532780;TomServo;!jd 357033;1382532780;assbot;Just-Dice stat: 5405 BTC profit, 59.2k BTC invested, 197.69 mio bets, 4.24 mio BTC wagered 357034;1382532875;kakobrekla;deleting a scam accusation makes the deleter an accomplice/shill 357035;1382532907;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.6101 = 6.101 BTC [-] 357036;1382533510;samson_;I see Cryptsy.com is offering 100,000 shares (20% of company) on cryptostocks.com in an IPO with no expiry date for 0.05 BTC each - listed yesterday by the looks of it 357037;1382533555;pankkake;altcoins dying? time to sell the company! 357038;1382533570;Apocalyptic;^^ 357039;1382533588;VanCleef;i only invest in PIF and Amythest 357040;1382533590;samson_;Apparently they are going to apply for licensing so they can sell coins for USD 357041;1382533594;samson_;All coins including BTC 357042;1382533607;pankkake;and they value themselves at 25000 BTC, sure :) 357043;1382533610;samson_;never mind the alts - it's a way into BTC 357044;1382533620;samson_;Well that's the issue - it looks a bit overpriced 357045;1382533639;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 90 @ 0.00566001 = 0.5094 BTC [+] {2} 357046;1382533653;pankkake;I don't even see how they are going to complete raising 5000 BTC 357047;1382533659;samson_;me neither 357048;1382533703;pankkake;worst of all, why aren't they using their own websites to sell the shares? 357049;1382533711;samson_;I would normally buy some as the value would probably go up anyway but with no end date listed for the IPO price they might not sell all 100,000 and that would fix the price 357050;1382533734;Apocalyptic;pankkake, the part where most bitcoin people seem to fail the most is company/assets valuation 357051;1382533779;samson_;I bought some ASICMINER shares just over a year ago, that was the last time I invested in any assets - that wasn't so bad 357052;1382533833;bitesak;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l02E4cj4Vvo#t=49 357053;1382533833;ozbot;"I Support an Orwellian Police State in America" - YouTube 357054;1382533842;bitesak;the futures bright ! 357055;1382533897;samson_;lol 357056;1382534981;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2950 @ 0.00084452 = 2.4913 BTC [+] 357057;1382535469;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 40 @ 0.604975 = 24.199 BTC [-] {6} 357058;1382535530;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 296 @ 0.00565845 = 1.6749 BTC [-] {7} 357059;1382535896;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 151 @ 0.00553028 = 0.8351 BTC [-] {9} 357060;1382537603;taub;btcn more volume than gox and bitstamp last 24h ! 357061;1382537616;taub;are chinamen pushing the price ralley? 357062;1382537626;Apocalyptic;yes they are obviously 357063;1382537633;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla what forum is this ? 357064;1382537665;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.594304 = 5.943 BTC [-] {5} 357065;1382537673;mircea_popescu;samson_ you know tjhe story of the fraudulent ipo of cryptostocks itself righ ? 357066;1382537707;kleeck;Chinese Government is pushing BTC to destablize the USD further and have stronger grounds to push BRIC away from the USD. 357067;1382537709;Apocalyptic;i don't mircea, tell me 357068;1382537730;kleeck;/tinfoil hat 357069;1382537740;mircea_popescu;well basically the guy made an ipo of his own site, which included a hefty licensing fee to be paid to himself 357070;1382537773;mircea_popescu;the deal got altered after the ipo so as to vacuum most value from the supposed "investors" 357071;1382537782;mircea_popescu;it's all over the forum, see his ipo thread 357072;1382537798;mircea_popescu;provided kakobrekla didn't delete all the posts meanwhile, of course. 357073;1382537814;Apocalyptic;why would kako do that ? 357074;1382537838;mircea_popescu;kleeck yeah, totally, bric needs more reasons to move away from usd. the chinese also summoned the us ambasador in paris, i bet. 357075;1382537855;mircea_popescu;Apocalyptic it's a joke, kakobrekla was complaining above he got banned for reposting deleted posts. 357076;1382537875;mircea_popescu;obviously it'd be the forum administration deleting old smoking gun posts, not kakobrekla 357077;1382537877;Apocalyptic;ok, i've been out of the loop for a while 357078;1382537883;Apocalyptic;gotta catch up 357079;1382538275;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00084076 = 5.0446 BTC [-] {2} 357080;1382539129;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 67 @ 0.00545598 = 0.3656 BTC [-] {4} 357081;1382539344;kakobrekla;mircea_popescu, bitcointalk ofc. 357082;1382539373;mircea_popescu;what was the post anyway ? 357083;1382539384;kakobrekla;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67547.msg3393033#msg3393033 357084;1382539386;ozbot;Starting a new FPGA mining farm/contract Cognitive Resurrected on [BTC-TC] 357085;1382539401;kakobrekla;its still there, the 3rd version of it or whatever. 357086;1382539413;kakobrekla;but badbear felt butthurt when i pmed him 357087;1382539420;kakobrekla;that i know that he is trying to push ban for me 357088;1382539443;kakobrekla;and now they plan to check all pms 357089;1382539445;mircea_popescu;weird. 357090;1382539446;kakobrekla;to see who leaked that info 357091;1382539451;kakobrekla;cause that is unacceptable! 357092;1382539455;kakobrekla;lolz. 357093;1382539505;mircea_popescu;what info you mean ? 357094;1382539527;kakobrekla;the info that he is pushing ban for me in the staff department forum 357095;1382539543;kakobrekla;and deleting my posts. 357096;1382539623;kakobrekla;it went like this 357097;1382539630;kakobrekla;1. i post some stuff 357098;1382539633;kakobrekla;2. it gets deleted 357099;1382539637;kakobrekla;3. i re-post it 357100;1382539647;kakobrekla;4. garr cries over my pm to leave britney alone 357101;1382539656;kakobrekla;5. it gets deleted 357102;1382539658;kakobrekla;6. i repost it 357103;1382539667;mircea_popescu;some stuff = ? 357104;1382539668;kakobrekla;7. i get info who is deleting and trying to ban me 357105;1382539677;mircea_popescu;i don't think you;'re getting banned here for expliciting it. 357106;1382539695;kakobrekla;8. i pm that douchebag that he should stop deleting to stop reposts 357107;1382539701;kakobrekla;9. ban 357108;1382539718;kakobrekla;and 10. 357109;1382539723;kakobrekla;drama continiues in the mod department 357110;1382539727;Apocalyptic;sounds like btctalk indeed 357111;1382539748;kakobrekla;some stuff i guess is "the slander of garr" 357112;1382539755;kakobrekla;as garr put it. 357113;1382539766;kakobrekla;im just having some morning coffee forum fun 357114;1382539814;davout;i can confirm that the butthurt level rose in the mod sections 357115;1382539863;jcpham;i can confirm i've never used btctalk in the sense of this conversation 357116;1382539864;Apocalyptic;heh 357117;1382539949;Apocalyptic;davout, you still do btc-central's btc withdrawal manually ? 357118;1382540036;mircea_popescu;who the fuck cares anyway, not like that cryptowhatever is doing anything 357119;1382540191;davout;Apocalyptic: yes 357120;1382540288;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1050 @ 0.00084452 = 0.8867 BTC [+] 357121;1382540443;mircea_popescu;http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2013/09/04/shodan-terrifying-search-engine/ 357122;1382540444;ozbot;The Terrifying Search Engine That Finds Internet-Connected Cameras, Traffic Lights, Medical Devices, 357123;1382540447;mircea_popescu;that's kind of lulzy 357124;1382540799;kakobrekla;oh no! everything but the 'moron'! 357125;1382540818;mircea_popescu;lol 357126;1382542850;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4305 @ 0.00083849 = 3.6097 BTC [-] 357127;1382542911;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.62799999 BTC [+] 357128;1382543706;bitesak;hello 357129;1382543728;kakobrekla;hi 357130;1382544048;Rulother;hiyo 357131;1382544556;ChaangNoi;sawatde 357132;1382545359;TATI;TAT.ASICMINER migrations form Bitfunder to Havelock now open for a limited time: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=192498.msg3395298#msg3395298 357133;1382545379;TATI;from* 357134;1382545412;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2812 @ 0.00084278 = 2.3699 BTC [+] 357135;1382545567;dexX7;i assume you don't do 100x am100 -> am1 conversions? 357136;1382545621;TATI;nope 357137;1382545668;bitesak;;;ticker 357138;1382545669;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 213.30515, Best ask: 215.76366, Bid-ask spread: 2.45851, Last trade: 215.76433, 24 hour volume: 27047.04154481, 24 hour low: 198.51000, 24 hour high: 216.00000, 24 hour vwap: 207.62934 357139;1382546506;benkay;"None of us, none of the people in that room want to just accept these kinds of conditions written in a top-down fashion by the Foundation that is effectively today a US foundation." 357140;1382546512;benkay;http://bitcoinmagazine.com/7643/bitcoin-in-israel-interview-with-meni-rosenfeld-and-ron-gross-part-2/ 357141;1382546514;ozbot;Bitcoin in Israel: Interview with Meni Rosenfeld and Ron Gross, Part 2 – Bitcoin Magazine 357142;1382546565;benkay;tee hee us bitcoin "foundation" rejected like a tryhard 357143;1382547364;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.627 BTC [-] 357144;1382547447;mircea_popescu;benkay such a shocker. 357145;1382547460;mircea_popescu;you mean nobody cares about yet another group of posers ?! but who could have imagiend this! 357146;1382547669;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 33 @ 0.00545001 = 0.1799 BTC [-] 357147;1382547730;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 21 @ 0.00545001 = 0.1145 BTC [-] 357148;1382547746;mircea_popescu;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=310985.msg3382569#msg3382569 from the lulz department. 357149;1382547748;ozbot;Bitfunder - no reason for a fire sale 357150;1382547926;mircea_popescu;http://mikethegoat.wordpress.com/2013/10/22/assessing-the-state-of-pgp-keys-with-phuctor/ 357151;1382547927;ozbot;Assessing The State Of PGP Keys With Phuctor | Mike the Crypto Goat 357152;1382548021;dexX7;"the latter guy is uh, infamous in the bitcoin world" :D 357153;1382548091;mircea_popescu;lol 357154;1382548094;mircea_popescu;left him a comment. 357155;1382548096;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.00083669 = 6.4425 BTC [-] {4} 357156;1382548584;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 50 @ 0.57751099 = 28.8755 BTC [-] {9} 357157;1382548928;pankkake;I'm not sure central bank governor is a good title. sounds like scammer mafia boss 357158;1382549014;mircea_popescu;we're troll baiting each other 357159;1382549316;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3450 @ 0.00083662 = 2.8863 BTC [-] 357160;1382549345;deadweasel;http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2013/10/23/crowdfunding-ipo-sec-jobs-act/3169395/ 357161;1382549345;ozbot;SEC moves toward allowing crowdfunding IPOs 357162;1382549377;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 115 @ 0.0011487 = 0.1321 BTC [+] 357163;1382549396;ThickAsThieves;it will turn "salami" scams, where small amounts are defrauded from investors, into the new normal," 357164;1382549407;deadweasel;"This is not a good day for financially unsophisticated investors who will be targeted unrelentingly by stock promoters." 357165;1382549411;ThickAsThieves;cuz invetsors never got defrauded before 357166;1382549443;deadweasel;small time is easier. many more, harder to regulate, etc. 357167;1382549450;deadweasel;but yeah 357168;1382549719;mircea_popescu;yeah. 357169;1382549741;mircea_popescu;measure has its downsides, definitely. also kind of unavoidable. 357170;1382549742;deadweasel;crowdfunding americans are going to lose their shirts. 357171;1382549755;deadweasel;in general, we are exceedingly ignorant. 357172;1382549762;mircea_popescu;you mean the borrowed shirts they currently wear ? or what "their" ? 357173;1382549774;deadweasel;yes, we are wearing china's old t-shirts. 357174;1382549779;deadweasel;they are very soft and cozy. 357175;1382549790;deadweasel;because sweatshop kids wore them first. 357176;1382549804;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.00114852 = 0.1149 BTC [-] {2} 357177;1382549877;deadweasel;hopefully, they will learn something and teach their kids and grandkids how to not be defrauded. but it's more likely they get drunk and beat them instead. 357178;1382549987;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 350 @ 0.00114987 = 0.4025 BTC [+] {4} 357179;1382549995;pankkake;well, kickstarter shows americans are happy to lose their money already :) 357180;1382550048;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 200 @ 0.00114989 = 0.23 BTC [+] {2} 357181;1382550109;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.00114989 = 0.115 BTC [+] 357182;1382550411;mircea_popescu;yeah, what pman said 357183;1382550414;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 70 @ 0.00545 = 0.3815 BTC [-] {2} 357184;1382550420;mircea_popescu;i seriously could not believe the stats of that thing 357185;1382550440;kakobrekla;urlpls 357186;1382550454;mircea_popescu;i mean... that in bitcoin crazy lalaland people like that scam whose name escapes me now take pride in 80% return rates is onme thing. but mainstream ? just wow. 357187;1382550533;mircea_popescu;http://thenextweb.com/insider/2013/07/26/board-game-creator-cans-123k-kickstarter-project-reinforces-the-platforms-accountability-issues/ 357188;1382550534;ozbot;No Accountability: Board Game Creator Cans $123K Kickstarter Project 357189;1382550536;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1295 @ 0.00083584 = 1.0824 BTC [-] 357190;1382550541;mircea_popescu;good example. but just google kickstarter scam 357191;1382550582;benkay;but mircea people are basically good 357192;1382550592;benkay;and make smart investments 357193;1382550723;mircea_popescu;yes. 357194;1382550726;mircea_popescu;except they do it in the ass. 357195;1382550777;Apocalyptic;they male smart investments until one day they don't... 357196;1382550781;Apocalyptic;*make 357197;1382551146;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00083508 = 4.0919 BTC [-] {3} 357198;1382551207;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] [PAID] 31.67198172 BTC to 8`451 shares, 374772 satoshi per share 357199;1382551451;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.380015 = 3.8002 BTC [-] 357200;1382551452;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.572 BTC [-] 357201;1382551634;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 2458 @ 0.00114989 = 2.8264 BTC [+] 357202;1382551938;dexX7;https://hashfast.com/?p=2445&preview=true "taking a few weeks longer than expected" 357203;1382551939;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3385 @ 0.00083169 = 2.8153 BTC [-] 357204;1382551939;ozbot;UPDATED SHIPPING NEWS | HashFast Technologies 357205;1382552549;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.62799987 = 4.396 BTC [+] {2} 357206;1382552671;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1250 @ 0.00083662 = 1.0458 BTC [+] 357207;1382552793;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1500 @ 0.00015 = 0.225 BTC [-] {2} 357208;1382553237;mod6;;;seen #bitcoin-assets thestringpuller 357209;1382553237;gribble;thestringpuller was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 2 days, 18 hours, 12 minutes, and 48 seconds ago: <thestringpuller> vis-a-vis Namworld the Canadian 357210;1382553261;mod6;wow. GTAV or a women has him pinned down. 357211;1382553313;nubbins`;hi 357212;1382553398;phungus;he's been absent from BitVPS as well 357213;1382553409;phungus;I think he's been overwhelmed by life recently 357214;1382553415;phungus;Namworld, that is 357215;1382553420;mod6;oh 357216;1382553445;mod6;is it looking for a home still? 357217;1382553466;kakobrekla;is he homeless? 357218;1382553485;phungus;BitVPS or Namworld? 357219;1382553487;phungus;:-) 357220;1382553503;kakobrekla;dunno , both 357221;1382553506;phungus;BitVPS == homeless as far as a share exchange goes 357222;1382553509;phungus;no idea about Nam 357223;1382553545;phungus;MPEX should offer us a sweet deal to re-list... hint hint 357224;1382553571;mod6;its been mentioned 357225;1382553571;phungus;we would probably do it 357226;1382553581;nubbins`;"I wonder whether one of the team should contact one of the keyservers and request a dump of their database. " 357227;1382553583;nubbins`;^ 357228;1382553638;phungus;a $6500 fee to join an exchange is a little excessive though and I'm not sure but that might be a show-stopper right there 357229;1382553641;phungus;lol 357230;1382553651;phungus;if it's still 30BTC 357231;1382553675;phungus;we only got delisted because rg sold the corp to us and didn't tell anyone which broke the exchange rules 357232;1382553706;mod6;i rememeber vividly. 357233;1382553708;phungus;we're even more solid today than we were then tho 357234;1382553715;phungus;we own physical gear, etc 357235;1382553728;phungus;and have been profitable the whole year 357236;1382553800;nubbins`;there are mpex brokers 357237;1382553817;nubbins`;https://coinbr.com/about 357238;1382553818;ozbot;About CoinBr 357239;1382553857;skinnkavaj;pankkake 357240;1382553858;skinnkavaj;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=316810.0 357241;1382553860;ozbot;[CRYPTOAVE.com] New BTC/DGC exchange IPO 357242;1382553914;nubbins`;!ticker --market bitstamp 357243;1382553914;assbot;Ah, your hair. Your hair is soft. It's like a girl's. Now how do you get it that way? 357244;1382553916;phungus;a Broker doesn't seem like it would help for listing 357245;1382553921;nubbins`;oh 357246;1382553926;nubbins`;;;gpg eauth nubbins` 357247;1382553927;gribble;Request successful for user nubbins`, hostmask nubbins`!~nubbins`@stjhnf0148w-142134193006.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOp.nl.bellaliant.net. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/CF2950F23C844002 357248;1382553929;pankkake;whatcoin now? 357249;1382553970;nubbins`;phungus: no, but it would help for people buying/selling 357250;1382553997;phungus;yeah, I suppose so 357251;1382553998;nubbins`;;;gpg everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:1dcbd21828071f2ba4842d8ccd3869b43616b165010a4fef2c4aa785 357252;1382553999;gribble;You are now authenticated for user nubbins` with key CF2950F23C844002 357253;1382554019;nubbins`;it's 30 btc even if you're listing? 357254;1382554043;deadweasel;yes 357255;1382554053;deadweasel;pay the man! 357256;1382554135;assbot;[MPEX] [S.BBET] 2145 @ 0.00063999 = 1.3728 BTC [+] 357257;1382554187;mod6;you'd have to discuss listing with mp. and if bitvps was relisted, im pretty sure that at least the ceo/cfo would need to have an acct @ mpex to pay divs etc. 357258;1382554196;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 851 @ 0.0011499 = 0.9786 BTC [+] {2} 357259;1382554257;assbot;[MPEX] [S.NSA] 5000 @ 0.000235 = 1.175 BTC [+] 357260;1382554379;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 3158 @ 0.00115224 = 3.6388 BTC [+] {2} 357261;1382554394;mod6;even if the divs can be paid through a broker, i suppose that whatever float retained by the owners would need to be held somewhere, requiring an account. 357262;1382554419;mod6;verdad? 357263;1382554441;assbot;[MPEX] [S.BBET] 5000 @ 0.000648 = 3.24 BTC [+] 357264;1382554562;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2950 @ 0.00083468 = 2.4623 BTC [-] 357265;1382554617;the20year;howdee 357266;1382554684;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4165 @ 0.00083658 = 3.4844 BTC [+] 357267;1382554806;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] [PAID] 13.32992160 BTC to 374`436 shares, 3560 satoshi per share 357268;1382555050;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 167 @ 0.001155 = 0.1929 BTC [+] 357269;1382555329;mod6;if you're angla merkel, would you believe obama when he says that he's not motitoring your phone calls? 357270;1382555376;deadweasel;you believe whatever he tells you to believe. 357271;1382555401;kleeck;I just read this gem of an article. Here's a very apt quote. 357272;1382555402;kleeck;"Crowdfunding today is rife with examples of consumers donating money to entrepreneurs, only for those people to take the money without ever producing the product or service that was pitched." 357273;1382555415;kleeck;http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2013/10/23/crowdfunding-ipo-sec-jobs-act/3169395/ 357274;1382555415;ozbot;SEC moves toward allowing crowdfunding IPOs 357275;1382555416;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 144 @ 0.06575096 = 9.4681 BTC [-] {11} 357276;1382555417;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7035 @ 0.00083658 = 5.8853 BTC [+] 357277;1382555438;mod6;deadweasel: haha 357278;1382555477;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 415 @ 0.00083662 = 0.3472 BTC [+] 357279;1382555512;mircea_popescu;mod6 yeah. 357280;1382555519;mircea_popescu;but namworld has an account iirc 357281;1382555559;mod6;ah. ok 357282;1382555611;mircea_popescu;and no, the recent spying scandals have cost the us in europe more than what clinton has managed to build. 357283;1382555628;mircea_popescu;(bill clinton, that is) 357284;1382555652;mod6;maybe merkel needs to fool 'em with some phonograph whitenoise records. 357285;1382555716;mod6;a la cryptonomicon 357286;1382555763;mod6;i wouldn't believe a goddamn word these guys say, they've always got their fingers crossed. 357287;1382555782;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 30 @ 0.32353353 = 9.706 BTC [-] {8} 357288;1382555820;mircea_popescu;actually there's some talk of the eu making its own sigint and ditching nato 357289;1382555839;mircea_popescu;"russians and the us equally hostile" and so on. 357290;1382555881;mod6;they certainly should. 357291;1382555921;asciilifeform;if dogs could speak, there would probably be talk among poodles of building their own walking parks and ditching humans. 357292;1382555947;mircea_popescu;except in this field the eu has more money and more human capital. 357293;1382555999;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: what was the EU's answer to the U.S. demand for root privs on Galileo (EU GPS equiv.) ? 357294;1382556015;mircea_popescu;what year was that ? 357295;1382556025;asciilifeform;if i recall, the question was posed as 'give us an off switch or your sats get added to the target list.' 357296;1382556033;asciilifeform;couple of years ago 357297;1382556048;mircea_popescu;a lot has changed in those couple of years. 357298;1382556064;mircea_popescu;why, even last year the us could get away with kidnapping the future president of france. 357299;1382556171;asciilifeform;seems like the galileo people caved 357300;1382556191;asciilifeform;they agreed to move their freq. band away from u.s. gps, so it could be jammed separately. 357301;1382556217;mircea_popescu;im telling you, a lot has changed in the past ~6 months, and a lot in tjhe past 6 days. 357302;1382556220;asciilifeform;that's the sort of thing i was talking about. 357303;1382556258;asciilifeform;wake me up when they start publicly hanging us signint agents when caught in the wiring closets. 357304;1382556283;mircea_popescu;not likely they'll ever do that. 357305;1382556299;mircea_popescu;the yurpeans are romantics, they've not killed a spy since forever. 357306;1382556327;asciilifeform;so, not poodles? maybe occasionally ill-tempered ones, but where's the bite. 357307;1382556355;mod6;mara hati was the last? 357308;1382556367;mod6;*hari 357309;1382556370;mircea_popescu;what's this, infantry engagement ? spying is about information not killing people 357310;1382556406;mircea_popescu;mod6 mata hari was supposed to die in her bed, except they couldn't find it, so they did the next best thing : 357311;1382556412;mircea_popescu;tied to a pole with a bunch of dudes 357312;1382556481;asciilifeform;point, in that it isn't about blood per se, except to demonstrate intent. but which euro nation has banned u.s. OS on gov. hardware? 357313;1382556493;asciilifeform;look to me like they're happy to be pwned. 357314;1382556509;asciilifeform;just not publicly and loudly. 357315;1382556518;mod6;is sad really. 357316;1382556560;mircea_popescu;that impression is a great asset im sure. 357317;1382556688;mircea_popescu;rivkin's protestations to the contrary notwithstanding, the us has managed to drive itself into this narrow ally where practically speaking china is it's closest ally. 357318;1382556700;mircea_popescu;it's a sad state of affairs when a man can't really find a friend past his creditors. 357319;1382556736;mod6;true enough, you reap what you sow. 357320;1382556812;mod6;im paranoid enough as an american. they've got everyone on tap. if i was a forign int service, gov or private citizen, i'd boycott all us software, and rebuild. 357321;1382556857;mod6;no reason to use the stuff that comes with backdoors from these savages. 357322;1382556858;mircea_popescu;fortunately the foss was always big in europe 357323;1382557025;mod6;that always helps. 357324;1382557097;mod6;the nsa twisting nipples in enc algos and prngs is scary though. that stuff gets widespread. 357325;1382557126;mod6;not a lot of people can determine if its been diddled with or not 357326;1382557187;mod6;what was the one we were talking about most recently? the ECC backdoor? 357327;1382557192;mircea_popescu;maybe someone brings good quality hardware rngs to the masses. 357328;1382557226;mod6;:) 357329;1382557263;mod6;when that day comes, it'll be a great day for personal and ditital liberty. 357330;1382557309;KRS1-;doesn't their filtering/diddling cause a delay with time sensitive synchronization 357331;1382557333;mircea_popescu;notrly. 357332;1382557460;mod6;bah, *digital 357333;1382557507;asciilifeform;until everybody understands that cryptographic suitability is an entirely non-mathematical property of the bits (vs. entropic quality, an easily-quantified one) - people will be confused. 357334;1382557530;nubbins`;^ 357335;1382557533;asciilifeform;cryptographic 'randomness' is a matter of provenance (as in this: http://ansuz.sooke.bc.ca/lawpoli/colour/2004061001.php) rather than entropy per se. 357336;1382557577;mircea_popescu;well, actually, randomness is not a property of numbers. it's a property of processes. 357337;1382557595;mircea_popescu;oldest observation in the book 357338;1382557603;mod6;thats the problem with hardware prng's, they can always be tampered with 357339;1382557618;nubbins`;haha, the color of bits re: 4'33 357340;1382557619;mircea_popescu;"random number" really shuld be "number obtained randomly" 357341;1382557629;nubbins`;that's some seriously christian-based logic right there 357342;1382557648;nubbins`;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accident_(philosophy) 357343;1382557661;jcpham;christians are always right 357344;1382557673;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 15 @ 0.14288989 = 2.1433 BTC [+] {2} 357345;1382557729;nubbins`;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Substance_theory 357346;1382557735;mircea_popescu;nubbins` how you mean ? 357347;1382557759;nubbins`;i mean when you take communion, you are, in the view of the church, literally eating the body of christ 357348;1382557774;nubbins`;now, it looks and acts like a plain unleavened wafer 357349;1382557780;mircea_popescu;well yes. 357350;1382557787;mircea_popescu;this is acquinas' idea. 357351;1382557791;nubbins`;yeah 357352;1382557811;nubbins`;and put into the context of 4'33 in the article asciilifeform linked 357353;1382557830;asciilifeform;it's not a philosophical question at all, re: the bits. their 'security' is a function of the bits and of the enemy's brain. if he knows (or might easily learn) them, they might be entropic, but not suitable for crypto. 357354;1382557841;nubbins`;"this string of zeroes isn't 4'33, but THIS string of zeroes *is*" 357355;1382557851;asciilifeform;the digits of 'pi' pass every test of entropy you can think of. (save one!) 357356;1382557889;mircea_popescu;i think you two are discussing different things 357357;1382557892;nubbins`;yeah 357358;1382557901;nubbins`;i didn't get more than a couple paragraphs into that article 357359;1382557906;nubbins`;and then i went off on a tangent 357360;1382557922;nubbins`;about transubstantiation :( 357361;1382558138;mircea_popescu;anyway, i must join my recommendation to the http://ansuz.sooke.bc.ca/lawpoli/colour/2004061001.php article. 357362;1382558160;mircea_popescu;it's one of those rare bits written by a competent translator, ie, one who has solid familiarity in two different fields. 357363;1382558269;asciilifeform;for the impatient: it wasn't about crypto per se, but still mandatory. 357364;1382558327;nubbins`;hm, i wonder if a contact mic would be useful in the context of RNGs 357365;1382558334;nubbins`;they're really small, and really cheap 357366;1382558375;mircea_popescu;for some values of useful. i prefer them to avalanche processes, but they have to be well filtered 357367;1382558389;asciilifeform;nubbins`: not that you can't use audio as an entropy seed, but most of it is incredibly periodic 357368;1382558400;nubbins`;hmm 357369;1382558402;asciilifeform;that's not even counting non-audio signals that the amp picks up (mains hum, for one) 357370;1382558409;nubbins`;^ 357371;1382558427;nubbins`;maybe more suitable in a battery-operated device 357372;1382558450;nubbins`;on the surface it sounds great. rub the contact mic against any surface and get all the entropy you need 357373;1382558459;nubbins`;but i don't think it's quite that straight-forward 357374;1382558460;asciilifeform;think of all the periodic audio where you now stand. pc fan. wind. your breath. etc 357375;1382558478;nubbins`;yeah 357376;1382558485;nubbins`;these things are incredibly sensitive though 357377;1382558487;asciilifeform;plug it into an oscilloscope and instantly see what i meant. 357378;1382558518;nubbins`;well. incredibly sensitive to touch, incredibly insensitive to regular sources of sound 357379;1382558533;nubbins`;you can put one inside your mouth and scream, and it'll barely register 357380;1382558549;nubbins`;or you can rub a feather against it, and deafen yourself 357381;1382558555;mircea_popescu;<nubbins`> on the surface it sounds great. rub the contact mic against any surface and get all the entropy you need << o no, not at all. you can't use such low bits. 357382;1382558589;asciilifeform;point is, a piece of garbage that may seem 'random' to the naked eye can have all kinds of nice predictable patterns if one knows where to look. 357383;1382558602;nubbins`;yeah, guess that's the catch 357384;1382558648;nubbins`;any amplifier would introduce its own brand of consistency to the signal, &c &c 357385;1382558670;mircea_popescu;you're going the wrong way with the amplifiers 357386;1382558683;mircea_popescu;what you do is you put up a mic and sample it at 0.00000001 hz. 357387;1382558686;mircea_popescu;that's random enough 357388;1382558697;mircea_popescu;takes a while, but nevertheless. 357389;1382558710;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6350 @ 0.00083312 = 5.2903 BTC [-] 357390;1382558717;nubbins`;noise from contact mic fed into a non-linear equation as an input variable? 357391;1382558740;nubbins`;just thinking out loud here 357392;1382558784;mircea_popescu;that's just hashing 357393;1382558797;nubbins`;haha 357394;1382558799;nubbins`;that's right 357395;1382558800;asciilifeform;if you're ok with a glacially-slow entropy source, just expose a DRAM chip to sunlight, with deliberately inadequate refresh cycles, wait for radiation bit-flippage. 357396;1382558850;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform that's horribly biased. 357397;1382558860;dub;is it still going to be random if I control input into the mic? because its trvial to do that remotely 357398;1382558879;nubbins`;trivial? 357399;1382558881;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: as vonneumann-debiasable as anything else 357400;1382558883;dub;yes 357401;1382558889;nubbins`;i've got one in my hand right now 357402;1382558894;nubbins`;control its input! 357403;1382558935;dub;I'd need to be a bit nearer to you but its doable 357404;1382558946;nubbins`;they're almost completely insensitive to air vibrations. you'd need to have it in your hand 357405;1382558964;nubbins`;hmm 357406;1382558974;dub;all you need is a radio and an amp 357407;1382558976;asciilifeform;nubbins`: anything attached to a human brain is a terrible source of entropy 357408;1382558990;asciilifeform;nubbins`: ever play with 'von neumann's mind reader' algo ? 357409;1382558993;nubbins`;nope 357410;1382559099;dub;nubbins`: http://lifehacker.com/5852903/silence-noisy-neighbors-by-transmitting-signals-through-their-own-speakers is an example but it might be easier to just introduce a less than random noise floor 357411;1382559128;asciilifeform;http://www.loper-os.org/p.cpp 357412;1382559130;asciilifeform;enjoy 357413;1382559137;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00083312 = 2.4994 BTC [-] 357414;1382559144;nubbins`;yeah, what i'm saying is that you'd deafen me before the contact mic would pick up the audio from my stereo 357415;1382559157;nubbins`;literally, i'd be dead with blood coming out of my ears 357416;1382559167;dub;you're wrong but keep talking 357417;1382559190;mircea_popescu;<nubbins`> control its input! << olo 357418;1382559257;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform you sghould make that a webservice. 357419;1382559261;nubbins`;contact mics are orders of magnitude more sensitive to touch vibration than air vibration 357420;1382559269;asciilifeform;i did at one point, lost the code 357421;1382559274;asciilifeform;the way the game works: 357422;1382559279;mircea_popescu;nubbins` the interraction happens through em not airwaves. 357423;1382559282;asciilifeform;you say '0' or '1' 357424;1382559285;nubbins`;o 357425;1382559286;asciilifeform;computer says '0' or '1' 357426;1382559287;dub;20 years ago we could modulate an RF signal such that your skull would resonate a recognisable signal you would hear inside your head 357427;1382559291;asciilifeform;you tell it if it was correct 357428;1382559302;asciilifeform;it goes off and changes weights on markov chain. 357429;1382559309;asciilifeform;keeps score. 357430;1382559314;asciilifeform;human usually loses unless he cheats 357431;1382559327;asciilifeform;(starts counting letters in phrases from memory, flips coins, etc.) 357432;1382559380;asciilifeform;not my idea. attributed to johnny von n, but i was given it by my brother, who plucked it from an ancient soviet textbook. 357433;1382559381;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8550 @ 0.00083776 = 7.1628 BTC [+] {2} 357434;1382559384;mircea_popescu;if you make it a webservice this'll be a great group activity at april conference. 357435;1382559393;mircea_popescu;get everyone drunk, person with worst score picks up the tab 357436;1382559397;asciilifeform;sure why not! 357437;1382559409;nubbins`;hm. well, i guess if i was onto something here, it would've been figured out ages ago 357438;1382559590;mircea_popescu;"Hey, Reddit, Ycombinator, and Metafilter readers! You know what, I'm proud that this article has become a benchmark, but I've written a lot of others I like too, some of them more recently than 2004. It would sure be nice if my other articles got some love instead of just this one being linked from a discussion every week." 357439;1382559603;mircea_popescu;dude wrote an article a decade ago, which saw 100bn page loads and 34 comments. 357440;1382559608;mircea_popescu;understandably a little miffed 357441;1382559686;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 0.06999 = 0.21 BTC [+] 357442;1382559687;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9116 @ 0.0008392 = 7.6501 BTC [+] {2} 357443;1382559856;dub;he should fartscroll.js it 357444;1382559859;pankkake;could a vacuum tube be used as an entropy source? 357445;1382559937;mircea_popescu;pankkake that's basically avalanche 357446;1382559965;pankkake;ok. interesting 357447;1382559991;mircea_popescu;basically you put a diode into backwards mode and count the electrons that make it past the barrier 357448;1382560010;b0n1;is it profitable trading gold in china? 357449;1382560030;b0n1;meaning to ship it out and sell it on for example european market 357450;1382560041;b0n1;anyone a source or a clue? 357451;1382560051;pankkake;I like vacuum tubes for the looks basically :p I'd buy that kind of random number generator 357452;1382560062;mircea_popescu;b0n1 no. china is a net importer, and because of govt pressure consumer gold is even more expensive 357453;1382560065;mircea_popescu;go the other way. 357454;1382560099;pankkake;don't you have to smugle it? or it's india 357455;1382560113;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13660 @ 0.00084429 = 11.533 BTC [+] {4} 357456;1382560118;topace;do the coinabul peeps every lurk on irc these days ? 357457;1382560134;mircea_popescu;coingenuity 357458;1382560138;nubbins`;pankkake: plus you could be all badass walking into the music store 357459;1382560143;nubbins`;"yeah, i need some tubes" 357460;1382560147;nubbins`;"oh, for your amp?" 357461;1382560147;b0n1;what is a good chinese commodity for taking out and selling elsewhere more expensive 357462;1382560154;mircea_popescu;b0n1 women. 357463;1382560155;b0n1;jade? is there actually a market for jade in europe? 357464;1382560159;b0n1;lal mircea_popescu 357465;1382560176;mircea_popescu;also, tshirts, electronic appliances of all kinds, small plastic toys 357466;1382560186;mircea_popescu;as well as 90% of all the items you have seen today. 357467;1382560194;nubbins`;chinese t-shirts 357468;1382560214;mod6;pankkake: seems like india has import controls, something like 15% tax on gold import 357469;1382560244;b0n1;well but there are certainly high market entry barriers, right? Maybe you need licences that are difficult to get? 357470;1382560287;mircea_popescu;basically you need to sign an agreement that if you steal their money they'll kill you with knives. 357471;1382560300;mircea_popescu;think of dealing with the mob, it's how china handles its export business. 357472;1382560300;pankkake;nubbins`: exactly, and I already have tubes for my amp anyway ;) 357473;1382560339;nubbins`;i'm picturing a Hiwatt with a built-in RNG 357474;1382560375;mircea_popescu;but speaking of gold, anyone saw the 2mn oz paper sale on the 11th ? 357475;1382560381;mod6;yeah 357476;1382560391;nubbins`;"5-level eq, all tubes, sub-harmonic generator, and here's a usb port" 357477;1382560391;mircea_popescu;day's lol it was. 357478;1382560489;coingenuity;mircea_popescu: hm? 357479;1382560490;coingenuity;ah 357480;1382560533;b0n1;do you have to pay tax on gold in china? 357481;1382560543;coingenuity;b0n1: you can't import gold to china 357482;1382560552;b0n1;export 357483;1382560556;b0n1;no import 357484;1382560562;coingenuity;you pay your 'tax' in the form of price-fixes by the government, which is the only authority allowed to sell/buy 357485;1382560565;coingenuity;you cant export either 357486;1382560579;coingenuity;bank of china is the only one allowed 357487;1382560586;b0n1;black market? 357488;1382560587;coingenuity;you can bribe them and get an export authorization, or so i hear 357489;1382560608;b0n1;shadow banking system? 357490;1382560615;mircea_popescu;this dude is cute. 357491;1382560635;coingenuity;whats good mircea_popescu :) 357492;1382560639;mircea_popescu;yes, all hail b0n1, the new black gold market czar of china 357493;1382560650;b0n1;:) 357494;1382560657;mircea_popescu;they'll shoot you dood. 357495;1382560674;coingenuity;^ 357496;1382560677;mircea_popescu;but otherwise, china buys 100-150 tons a month. thanks to the jpm&co keeping the price low with their derivative trades, 357497;1382560686;coingenuity;heh 357498;1382560690;coingenuity;yeah, the gov buys a ton 357499;1382560691;b0n1;coingenuity, is it difficult to get the export authorization? 357500;1382560700;coingenuity;b0n1: i assume its nearly impossible 357501;1382560716;mircea_popescu;start by getting the job of chinese foreign trade minister 357502;1382560718;mircea_popescu;then it;'s easy. 357503;1382560730;coingenuity;^ 357504;1382560756;b0n1;:) maybe i am 357505;1382560769;b0n1;haha 357506;1382560770;mircea_popescu;on the internet every dog is the emperor of china. 357507;1382560775;coingenuity;lol 357508;1382560786;b0n1;coingenuity, what do you think of jade? 357509;1382560803;coingenuity;b0n1: no opinion 357510;1382560821;b0n1;or as mircea_popescu said any textile stuff. you could just go to a trading company that ship the stuff always straight to europe 357511;1382560851;nubbins`;b0n1: curious to know what you're getting at here 357512;1382560855;mircea_popescu;yes yes. if you have a good opportunity they'll provide you goods. learn chinese, go hang out there fgor a year. it's a living. 357513;1382560876;mircea_popescu;not quite as good a living as it was in 1993, but anyway. 357514;1382560967;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 35 @ 0.0057 = 0.1995 BTC [-] 357515;1382560978;b0n1;nubbins`, maybe some cool sources to read a bit about that 357516;1382561001;b0n1;good forums or stuff... cant find any good source 357517;1382561049;nubbins`;i meant, why are you so interested in exporting a good from chins 357518;1382561052;nubbins`;uh. china 357519;1382561084;nubbins`;!ticker 357520;1382561084;assbot;I don't give a shit who saw what and who did what or who did who. 357521;1382561089;nubbins`;hm 357522;1382561102;nubbins`;;;ticker 357523;1382561103;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 221.80016, Best ask: 223.00000, Bid-ask spread: 1.19984, Last trade: 221.80016, 24 hour volume: 37045.60898872, 24 hour low: 199.60000, 24 hour high: 224.30000, 24 hour vwap: 211.91772 357524;1382561116;nubbins`;^ that's getting a bit ridiculous 357525;1382561156;b0n1;nubbins`, because i think there is great potential after the opening 357526;1382561193;mod6;i've been thinking about this chart lately: http://blockchain.info/charts/miners-operating-profit-margin << even after the rally, look where it is. 357527;1382561219;nubbins`;ha 357528;1382561262;kakobrekla;http://smpake.com/etc/btc/ 357529;1382561319;nubbins`;i'm having trouble deciding how greedy to be 357530;1382561325;mircea_popescu;mod6 which is why the rally. 357531;1382561351;mod6;kakobrekla: what does the x axis rep? im cornfused. 357532;1382561358;mircea_popescu;on top of everything else however, like tech obsolesncence etc, the independent miners now also have the problem of dealing with people who mine for political rather than economic reasons 357533;1382561361;mircea_popescu;it'll be tough 357534;1382561387;kakobrekla;horizontal is time 357535;1382561392;nubbins`;10% attack 357536;1382561405;mod6;kakobrekla: i can't figure how those numbers are linear though 357537;1382561426;nubbins`;anyway, the dilemma is that if i sell this stack of btc now, i could lose out on potential gains if the trend continues to rise 357538;1382561433;kakobrekla;its a copla of years chars since its started to chart 357539;1382561439;kakobrekla;dayum its been long :\ 357540;1382561445;nubbins`;but if i sit on them with the expectation that the trend continues, i risk losing out on potential gains as well 357541;1382561460;nubbins`;and so i'm left trying to decide just how greedy i am 357542;1382561497;mircea_popescu;lmao. 1st world problems. 357543;1382561502;nubbins`;i know right? 357544;1382561527;mod6;oh because { 26.x, 27.x, 28.x, 27.x, 26.x ...} etc 357545;1382561536;mod6;ok heh 357546;1382561576;mod6;oh thats the date, not the month. got it. 357547;1382561586;nubbins`;ah! 357548;1382561594;nubbins`;well, that makes more sense now 357549;1382561606;nubbins`;what an odd date format 357550;1382561617;mircea_popescu;it's not odd, it's european/ 357551;1382561634;nubbins`;you just said two opposite things 357552;1382561671;mircea_popescu;inception 357553;1382561694;mircea_popescu;http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2013/10/17/signature-thursday-how-strong-is-yours/ 357554;1382561695;ozbot;Signature Thursday: How strong is yours? | Bingo Blog 357555;1382561699;mircea_popescu;im curious how long before judges move to gpg sigs 357556;1382561699;deadweasel;yes, wake up, the price is actually $33/btc 357557;1382561802;nubbins`;mircea_popescu: prolly never 357558;1382561819;mircea_popescu;i dunno, i wouldn't take the judge job w/o gpg sigs. 357559;1382561821;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.31000087 = 2.48 BTC [-] {2} 357560;1382561845;nubbins`;well, there are plenty of judges that won't accept emailed documents but will accept faxes 357561;1382561860;nubbins`;not necessarily the most eager to embrace technology 357562;1382561900;nubbins`;anyway, i gotta go prep for a zine workshop. peace 357563;1382561912;mircea_popescu;yeah, but suppose it becomes law tomorrow that should your signature be forged, you're responsible as if you had signed. 357564;1382561919;nubbins`;heh! 357565;1382561940;mircea_popescu;part of a larger obama responsibility reform package, that also includes a rule that if your computer is hacked and sends spam, you're fined 357566;1382561968;mircea_popescu;ten bux an email or something reasonable like that. 357567;1382561993;mircea_popescu;(half of which going to the party that reports the spam, of course) 357568;1382562008;nubbins`;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urMjGAimtRc 357569;1382562008;ozbot;Roger Hodgson - Dreamer [Live] - YouTube 357570;1382562016;nubbins`;and on that note, i'm out 357571;1382562059;mod6;only a matter of time until a party collects keys and then spams people to generate rev. 357572;1382562065;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2662 @ 0.00084533 = 2.2503 BTC [+] 357573;1382562069;mod6;(if that should happen) 357574;1382562098;mircea_popescu;mod6 how'd that work ? 357575;1382562106;mod6;<dude> Your Honor, I swear I never sent those emails. <Judge> Sorry son, this spam has your key sig. 357576;1382562122;mod6;*gavel* 357577;1382562127;mircea_popescu;a no. 357578;1382562138;mircea_popescu;most of spam floating about today is traceable to clueless "businesses" 357579;1382562146;mircea_popescu;that run poorly secured, windows computers on the network 357580;1382562187;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.57300014 = 1.719 BTC [-] 357581;1382562190;mircea_popescu;consider : Subject: This Company Announced News Today From: frank@altimayachts.com 357582;1382562210;mircea_popescu;"Altima Yachts, Inc was founded out of a desire by our founder, Frank Sciortino, to produce the finest cruising yacht possible at a reasonable investment level." 357583;1382562282;pankkake;so running windows is now a crime in the US? at least government intervention does something positive! 357584;1382562290;pankkake;at last* 357585;1382562309;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8087 @ 0.00084594 = 6.8411 BTC [+] {3} 357586;1382562337;mircea_popescu;ah the sweet day when im tyrant and everyone who ever worked for microsoft is permanently in jail. 357587;1382562370;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.0055432 = 0.2772 BTC [-] {6} 357588;1382562371;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1713 @ 0.00084719 = 1.4512 BTC [+] 357589;1382562635;dub;http://news.vanderbilt.edu/2013/10/device-electricity-silicon-chips/ 357590;1382562635;ozbot;New device stores electricity on silicon chips | Research News @ Vanderbilt | Vanderbilt Universi 357591;1382562815;dexX7;http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1579346/000119312513393903/0001193125-13-393903-index.htm < "is this good news?" 357592;1382562828;dexX7;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=316872.0 357593;1382562830;ozbot;Winklevoss Bitcoin Trust on Bloomberg 357594;1382562993;mircea_popescu;not much yet. 357595;1382563020;mircea_popescu;it's been pending listing since summer. 357596;1382563034;ThickAsThieves;;;ticker 357597;1382563034;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 222.01112, Best ask: 223.79500, Bid-ask spread: 1.78388, Last trade: 222.01110, 24 hour volume: 37508.43892433, 24 hour low: 199.60135, 24 hour high: 224.30000, 24 hour vwap: 212.23333 357598;1382563042;ThickAsThieves;;;bcstats 357599;1382563044;pgp;mod6: Regarding miner profits, Blockchain.info has not updated it's assumption of Watts/GH in a long time. Latest hardware is at around 10 Watts per GH not 650 Watts. Miners are still making plenty... 357600;1382563045;gribble;Current Blocks: 265603 | Current Difficulty: 2.677312494824211E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 266111 | Next Difficulty In: 508 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 8 hours, 26 minutes, and 39 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 380572529.595 | Estimated Percent Change: 42.14722 357601;1382563063;ThickAsThieves;;;estimate 357602;1382563064;gribble;Next difficulty estimate | 380572529.595 based on data since last change | 433506794.872 based on data for last three days 357603;1382563112;mircea_popescu;42 ej 357604;1382563224;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61 BTC [+] 357605;1382563232;mod6;pgp: ah. thx. 357606;1382563529;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 86 @ 0.00571022 = 0.4911 BTC [+] {2} 357607;1382563537;mircea_popescu;;;gentime 1000000 357608;1382563538;gribble;The average time to generate a block at 1000000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 267731249.482, is 1 week, 6 days, 7 hours, 25 minutes, and 14 seconds 357609;1382563574;mircea_popescu;;;calc 13*24*3.600*10 357610;1382563574;gribble;11232 357611;1382563590;mircea_popescu;;;calc 25 * 220 / 11232 357612;1382563591;gribble;0.489672364672 357613;1382563604;mircea_popescu;nah that's broken 357614;1382563658;mircea_popescu;;;calc 13*24*10 357615;1382563658;gribble;3120 357616;1382563686;mircea_popescu;;;calc 25 * 220 / 3120 357617;1382563686;gribble;1.76282051282 357618;1382563703;mircea_popescu;so yeah, if they pay less than 1.75 dollars / kwh and the gear was free they're making a profit. 357619;1382563712;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 0.25 = 0.5 BTC [+] 357620;1382563714;benkay;;;tslb 357621;1382563719;gribble;Time since last block: 7 minutes and 59 seconds 357622;1382563873;mod6;so could a hardware device that measures the decay of a certain isotope be contrived to obtain a reliable source of random numbers? and if so, what would be the best isotope to use? 357623;1382563901;mod6;was looking at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_isotopes_by_half-life in the 10^-3 range... 357624;1382563927;mircea_popescu;if the gear costs 100k per terahash and it has to be amortised in 6 months however, the cost of electricity would have to be under -7 dollars/kwh or so. 357625;1382563956;mircea_popescu;mod6 i'll tell you later, in the shape of a future nsa product :D 357626;1382563994;mod6;:] 357627;1382563997;dub;it'll be a box with a camera and a turtle in it 357628;1382564017;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1400 @ 0.00084685 = 1.1856 BTC [-] 357629;1382564038;mircea_popescu;why a turtle specifically ? 357630;1382564122;dub;best size vs. longevity I could think of in 8 seconds 357631;1382564131;dub;some of those little guys last 20 years 357632;1382564141;dub;big ones longer than us obviously but harder to ug around 357633;1382564144;dub;lug* 357634;1382564212;mircea_popescu;http://assets.inhabitat.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2013/03/Peanut-Deformed-Turtle-Six-Pack-Ring-1-537x380.jpg 357635;1382564248;dub;darwin be praised 357636;1382564266;jurov;<phungus> [18:45:17] a Broker doesn't seem like it would help for listing << why not? it can help you, infact i'm already doing stuff to help namworld with this passthroughs ;) 357637;1382564286;jurov;*with his passthroughs 357638;1382564322;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61269944 BTC [+] 357639;1382564323;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.005496 = 0.1374 BTC [-] {8} 357640;1382564383;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 746 @ 0.005251 = 3.9172 BTC [-] {32} 357641;1382564444;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 567 @ 0.00503144 = 2.8528 BTC [-] {5} 357642;1382564505;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 83 @ 0.04989408 = 4.1412 BTC [-] {8} 357643;1382564566;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.31 BTC [-] 357644;1382564574;kakobrekla;>>"Kakobrekla is the slanderous soul" 357645;1382564576;kakobrekla;lmao 357646;1382564620;mircea_popescu;who did you slander this time 357647;1382564627;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.61275 = 3.0638 BTC [+] 357648;1382564629;dub;has to be luke 357649;1382564647;mircea_popescu;could be luke... 357650;1382564659;kakobrekla;no, its that kiddo. 357651;1382564690;mircea_popescu;here, i'll trade you : "the writer here has something interesting to say and a few useful ways to explain it, but jesus if trilema hasn't completely fucking spoiled me for elegance and conciseness." 357652;1382564802;kakobrekla;dunno how to slander that. 357653;1382565120;mircea_popescu;slander IMMUNITY 357654;1382565264;ThickAsThieves;<+AssetBot> [Graet.Loan] 2 @ 0.00502000 = 0.01004000 [-] 357655;1382565280;ThickAsThieves;it's a .01 face value "bond" (loan) 357656;1382565361;mircea_popescu;the market is never wrong 357657;1382565362;jurov;"slanderous soul" ... sounds almost poetic 357658;1382565664;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00520001 = 0.26 BTC [+] 357659;1382565726;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 23 @ 0.0052 = 0.1196 BTC [-] 357660;1382565786;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 42 @ 0.627069 = 26.3369 BTC [+] {13} 357661;1382565908;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 19 @ 0.57329476 = 10.8926 BTC [-] {8} 357662;1382566274;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 800 @ 0.00084157 = 0.6733 BTC [-] 357663;1382566335;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 500 @ 0.00500001 = 2.5 BTC [-] {4} 357664;1382567555;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 120 @ 0.00500084 = 0.6001 BTC [+] {2} 357665;1382567616;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 401 @ 0.00500009 = 2.005 BTC [-] {4} 357666;1382567738;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 256 @ 0.0050002 = 1.2801 BTC [+] {6} 357667;1382567799;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00084657 = 2.2011 BTC [+] 357668;1382567921;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5621 BTC [-] 357669;1382568714;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 668 @ 0.00017 = 0.1136 BTC [+] 357670;1382569300;jurov;http://www.forbes.com/sites/parmyolson/2013/10/22/how-chinas-xiaomi-does-in-a-week-what-apple-does-in-a-year-update-devices/ 357671;1382569324;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00084124 = 6.1411 BTC [-] {2} 357672;1382571581;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10036 @ 0.00084082 = 8.4385 BTC [-] {2} 357673;1382571780;dub;its pretty easy realy 357674;1382571822;dub;when there are no resourcing limits, no regulations, no need to control quality 357675;1382571861;dub;of course they wont last more than a few minutes on the timescale of apple's history 357676;1382572374;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 32 @ 0.00519507 = 0.1662 BTC [+] {4} 357677;1382572436;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5995 BTC [+] 357678;1382572496;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 58 @ 0.00519871 = 0.3015 BTC [-] {3} 357679;1382573411;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2070 @ 0.00084082 = 1.7405 BTC [-] 357680;1382573716;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.60597499 = 2.4239 BTC [+] {2} 357681;1382574448;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1200 @ 0.00083786 = 1.0054 BTC [-] 357682;1382574448;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.563 BTC [-] 357683;1382574570;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6550 @ 0.00083294 = 5.4558 BTC [-] {2} 357684;1382574692;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 58 @ 0.00519999 = 0.3016 BTC [+] {2} 357685;1382574875;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.0050002 = 0.125 BTC [-] 357686;1382575485;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1623 @ 0.00083169 = 1.3498 BTC [-] 357687;1382576096;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 758 @ 0.00114998 = 0.8717 BTC [+] 357688;1382577193;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7150 @ 0.00083786 = 5.9907 BTC [+] 357689;1382579023;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.56200004 = 1.124 BTC [-] 357690;1382579103;dub;;;ath 357691;1382579104;gribble;Error: "ath" is not a valid command. 357692;1382579199;dub;;;ticker --market all 357693;1382579208;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD last: 229.30538, vol: 39977.16721744 | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 204.96, vol: 24337.44747621 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 201.002, vol: 21812.9261 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 208.0, vol: 11634.46571442 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 196.01, vol: 844.79642574 | Volume-weighted last average: 214.236556853 357694;1382579208;assbot;123! 357695;1382579877;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11693 @ 0.00083568 = 9.7716 BTC [-] {2} 357696;1382580114;Diablo-D3;wtf 229 357697;1382580139;dub;we should ask mircea_popescu if its ok to be this high 357698;1382580168;Diablo-D3;before or after toking on a bong? 357699;1382580169;mircea_popescu;if you mean http://bitcoin.sipa.be/speed-lin-ever.png it's damned scary 357700;1382580190;dub;we may need an angry blog post to bring it down 357701;1382580266;mircea_popescu;there ain't no bringing this down babeh. 357702;1382580301;dub;the price, not net speed 357703;1382580304;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13400 @ 0.00083575 = 11.1991 BTC [+] {2} 357704;1382580318;pgp;i wish charts like that were plotted against log10... 357705;1382580345;mircea_popescu;pgp http://bitcoin.sipa.be/speed-small-ever.png 357706;1382580379;BingoBoingo;This just looks like the same process that started last winter where the new $100 normal was discovered. Maybe we are in for Bitcoin's trek from being the internet's crisp hundred dollar bill to being the crisp 500 euro note. 357707;1382580424;mircea_popescu;there certainly exists the sufficient cause and backing for it. 357708;1382580458;KRS1;cool next month i get to start throwing my asic miners away..useless. 357709;1382580475;mircea_popescu;KRS1 have BingoBoingo over for a bbq 357710;1382580486;KRS1;I live in Florida near Miami. 357711;1382580490;KRS1;not far from Miami 357712;1382580503;dexX7;bitcoin backing / justification for a huge rise = purchased asic hardware, mp? 357713;1382580528;BingoBoingo;KRS1: That isn't too long of a drive. I just might have to retape my passenger side mirror on before I try returning to the Interstate Highways. 357714;1382580587;KRS1;jaja 357715;1382580607;KRS1;A while back i met Aaron the author of BAMT. He lives not far from me. 357716;1382580628;KRS1;met quite a few people in BTC here. 357717;1382580640;KRS1;LorenzoMoney..he's cool. 357718;1382580663;mircea_popescu;dexX7 nope, i've never mined, i still am not mining. 357719;1382580707;KRS1;like you have a reason to..haha keep doing what you do 357720;1382580770;mircea_popescu;yeah, we can't all do everything. 357721;1382580826;KRS1;wouldnt want to..im working for my retirement so i can say FU and earn a few percent in the south caribbean somewhere. 357722;1382580865;mircea_popescu;anyway, curious if we're in for a rehash of july 2010. (vertical degree of magnitude wall, i think there were two consecutive 400% increases there) 357723;1382580892;phungus;it, fels the same 357724;1382580894;phungus;feels 357725;1382580902;mircea_popescu;it does have a sort of air doesn't it 357726;1382580902;phungus;I am saying 500 357727;1382580904;phungus;then the reset 357728;1382580917;phungus;maybe that's too high 357729;1382580919;phungus;I dunno 357730;1382580922;KRS1;one would think when the btc would be 100% mined to figure that maybe? 357731;1382580941;KRS1;year or two before supply runs out? 357732;1382580975;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8208 @ 0.00083564 = 6.8589 BTC [-] {2} 357733;1382580986;KRS1;$266 was fun indeed 357734;1382581026;nubbins`;i think they were talking about difficulty 357735;1382581056;KRS1;oh right 2010 357736;1382581078;nubbins`;yeah, last pasted link 357737;1382581083;nubbins`;that's a wild couple of jumps 357738;1382581091;KRS1;;;seen chaang-noi 357739;1382581092;gribble;chaang-noi was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 weeks, 5 days, 9 hours, 56 minutes, and 14 seconds ago: <chaang-noi> TOM FORD 357740;1382581158;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.56200004 = 2.248 BTC [-] {2} 357741;1382581163;mircea_popescu;nubbins` of course one has to appreciate it was on very narrow base 357742;1382581186;nubbins`;yeah. two beers will make you the drunkest guy in an empty bar. 357743;1382581189;mircea_popescu;7 degrees of magnitude below current levels. 357744;1382581194;mircea_popescu;right. 357745;1382581219;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.1223 BTC [-] 357746;1382581582;mircea_popescu;KRS1 i dunno about LorenzoMoney, he's been maligning my good name calling me a fascist science writer and stuff 357747;1382581605;nubbins`;lel 357748;1382581605;KRS1;damn =/ 357749;1382581625;KRS1;I met him seemed ok..thats odd. 357750;1382581637;mircea_popescu;ikr? 357751;1382581739;KRS1;sorry to hear that 357752;1382581773;mircea_popescu;KRS1 you realise it's a joke, mostly. 357753;1382581934;KRS1;oh i missed that ok 357754;1382581943;KRS1;came out of nowhere 357755;1382582002;dexX7;;;calc 1/205 357756;1382582002;gribble;0.00487804878049 357757;1382582429;BingoBoingo;I'll just throw out it feels more like January 2013 than silk Road July (and to most people that should mean nothing, don't you cultivate your own personalized WOT's). 357758;1382582522;dub;wot 357759;1382582570;KRS1;wut 357760;1382582598;asciilifeform;for the crypto/information-theory buffs: http://www.loper-os.org/bad-at-entropy/manmach.html 357761;1382582733;KRS1;Score % Leader Man 3 100.00 Machine 0 0.00 357762;1382582737;KRS1;i am teh win 357763;1382582763;ThickAsThieves;;;market buy 20000 357764;1382582764;gribble;A market order to buy 20000 bitcoins right now would take 5406287.9873 USD and would take the last price up to 493.3530 USD, resulting in an average price of 270.3144 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0068 seconds 357765;1382582774;ThickAsThieves;;;bids 0 357766;1382582775;gribble;There are currently 73141057 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 14581346.7977 USD in total. | Data vintage: 10.6065 seconds 357767;1382582955;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform cool beans 357768;1382582965;mircea_popescu;KRS1 beat it with a score > 100 357769;1382582976;asciilifeform;everybody try it on your cat. or wife. or other pets. 357770;1382583004;TomServo;what's the high score? :) 357771;1382583020;mircea_popescu;Man685.71* Machine114.29< 357772;1382583034;mike_c;that website can read my mind. super annoying. 357773;1382583035;mircea_popescu;it's not too hard to beat to shit provided you have infinite memory. 357774;1382583041;mircea_popescu;you don't, so the computer will eventually win. 357775;1382583055;mircea_popescu;(as sooner or later you begin forgetting your earlier patterns) 357776;1382583079;mircea_popescu;basically if you can't score > 50% on 100 rolls you'll never be a card counter in blackjack 357777;1382583093;asciilifeform;you can cheat by tossing a coin, say. but it's gotta be a perfectly fair coin! 357778;1382583117;mircea_popescu;anyway, this warrants a write-up 357779;1382583118;asciilifeform;the point of the exercise was to illustrate a fact. 357780;1382583156;TomServo;it does that well, I think. 357781;1382583679;mircea_popescu;sooo, in the latest installment of "libertards are owned by technology", it'd seem the uncompromised obamacare will in fact be delayed after all. because websites are hard. 357782;1382583805;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: But they have a dream team of engineers whose owners won't be named... 357783;1382583842;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 36 @ 0.00477138 = 0.1718 BTC [-] {3} 357784;1382583858;BingoBoingo;Also managed 55.93% on 100 rolls on Ma vs. Machine 357785;1382583903;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 48 @ 0.00462708 = 0.2221 BTC [-] {3} 357786;1382583904;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 0.06989999 = 0.1398 BTC [+] 357787;1382583964;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 0.0698 = 0.2792 BTC [-] 357788;1382584086;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 123 @ 0.00442712 = 0.5445 BTC [-] {3} 357789;1382584147;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 105 @ 0.00441 = 0.4631 BTC [-] {3} 357790;1382584184;nubbins`;53.19% :( 357791;1382584339;mircea_popescu;wd. 357792;1382584350;nubbins`;oh wait. i stopped when i had 100 points 357793;1382584352;nubbins`;i misread 357794;1382584452;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 33 @ 0.0698 = 2.3034 BTC [-] 357795;1382584784;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform if you toss a coin you'll get something like 1% over the machine in 1000 tries 357796;1382584794;mircea_popescu;or w/e, 0.01 in 1mn tries 357797;1382584818;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21199 @ 0.00083626 = 17.7279 BTC [+] {3} 357798;1382584879;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9539 @ 0.00083842 = 7.9977 BTC [+] 357799;1382584879;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 0.0698 = 0.1396 BTC [-] 357800;1382585108;mircea_popescu;"October 24, 2013 will bring with it something that has not been heard of since 1921. The entire House and Senate, all of Capitol Hill will close for the funeral of a Representative. However unlike the 1921 Congress Closing, all members are being flown to Florida for the funeral by the United States Air Force." 357801;1382585115;mircea_popescu;if "terrorists" happen to bomb that plane... 357802;1382585141;VanCleef;my dad died as a terrorist show some respect 357803;1382585201;KRS1;haha 357804;1382585286;BingoBoingo;I'm guessing Bitcoin doesn't have an assassination market yet? 357805;1382585308;VanCleef;yeh right some fat virgin nerd is going to leave their grandmothers basement to do a hit 357806;1382585308;Apocalyptic;BingoBoingo, ask DRP 357807;1382585311;VanCleef;good one 357808;1382585335;VanCleef;why would they do that when they can smell their computer chair all day 357809;1382585365;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/find-out-just-how-human-your-girlfriend-really-is/ 357810;1382585366;ozbot;Find out just how human your girlfriend really is* pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 357811;1382585367;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.56160001 = 2.808 BTC [-] {3} 357812;1382585368;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform ^ :D 357813;1382585428;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0046 = 0.46 BTC [+] 357814;1382585660;BingoBoingo;VanCleef Apocalyptic: You never know. Even the fat need exercise sometimes. Look how skinny the coke made DPR when he couldn't sell it. 357815;1382585671;mircea_popescu;lmao 357816;1382585678;mircea_popescu;coke doesn't make you skinny, it's practically sugar. 357817;1382585696;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Not to your metabolism. 357818;1382585713;VanCleef;i met a crackwhore the other night at a nightclub 357819;1382585723;VanCleef;its funny when they really look like a crackwhore 357820;1382585733;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25270 @ 0.00083728 = 21.1581 BTC [-] {3} 357821;1382585742;mircea_popescu;you know, people who specify CRACKwhore make me thing ladyboys are a lot more popular than i imagine. 357822;1382585762;VanCleef;very popular 357823;1382585772;VanCleef;even actual women are starting to look like ladyboys now 357824;1382586032;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo no, seriouslys, it's usually sugar cut. at least the upscale stuff. 357825;1382586090;BingoBoingo;Around here allegedly the contaminant is usually gypsum that was in the way of copper that needed stole. 357826;1382586096;mircea_popescu;also for that reason crack cocaine != cocaine 357827;1382586217;KRS1;very different 357828;1382586298;BingoBoingo;Well, the speed at which you can reach a decent serum concentration generally makes a difference on end effect. 357829;1382586361;mircea_popescu;that's not the whole story there. crack is significantly more toxic. 357830;1382586453;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: More toxic yes, but mostly from combustion byproducts. The bicarbonates that make the crack a rock generally don't stay very benign when they burn. 357831;1382586497;mircea_popescu;also from the sudden avalanche of sodium blockers being less well tolerated by the heart 357832;1382586576;BingoBoingo;Then there's the part where lung tissue tends to atrophy in the presence of cocaine in a way it can't for nicotine since humans generally have a bunch of enzymes ready to break down cholinergics like nicotine, though not so much for cocaine. 357833;1382586702;BingoBoingo;Nicotine is the odd case in which any non-smoking route of administration can generally get more drug to the brain. For cocaine, the opiates and others the case is usually the opposite. 357834;1382586712;mircea_popescu;http://cdn2.tauntr.com/sites/default/files/CokeSpoon_Cowboys.jpg 357835;1382587027;BingoBoingo;/me wonders where MrKlye is for this conversation 357836;1382587048;nubbins`;i've seen people add heaping spoonfuls of powdered glucosamine to bags of coke 357837;1382587057;nubbins`;anything white that won't immediately kill you, really 357838;1382587175;mircea_popescu;glucosamine isn't particularly toxic or anything 357839;1382587190;mircea_popescu;actually i think you can't even find a "food supplement" that doesn't include it. 357840;1382587201;nubbins`;well, no, but most people would choose not to snort a line of it, given the choice 357841;1382587248;nubbins`;my two-year quitting anniversary was last week 357842;1382587298;BingoBoingo;Congrats nubbins` if you mean tobacco. If you were talking powder though that isn't so big of a deal. 357843;1382587305;nubbins`;tobacco 357844;1382587331;nubbins`;i like things way too much to ever try coke 357845;1382587380;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 5 @ 0.1223 = 0.6115 BTC [-] 357846;1382587521;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: Coke is a relatively easy quit though. Really a take or leave it sort of thing. Tobacco is a bit more insidious though. On top of half your neurons containing nicotinic-cholinergic receptors there are a bunch of mono-amine reductase inhibitors in tobacco which are much less frequently mentioned. 357847;1382587554;mike_c;suck it mindreader 357848;1382587556;nubbins`;well, it's a much more innocent habit on the surface, too, which makes it seem like less of a problem 357849;1382587556;mike_c;http://imgur.com/dLVtvNb 357850;1382587557;ozbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 357851;1382587563;nubbins`;and if it's not a big problem, why quit? 357852;1382587573;mircea_popescu;this entire tobacco is addictive talk is hogwash. i've been smoking for about twenty years now, at the rate of about one pack a month 357853;1382587595;mircea_popescu;not bad mike 357854;1382587640;nubbins`;then why do i still get intense cravings for cigarettes when i see people smoking on tv? 357855;1382587655;mircea_popescu;hm 357856;1382587658;mike_c;physical addiction ends in.. 3 weeks i think 357857;1382587663;mike_c;after that it's psychological 357858;1382587663;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Maybe this chemistry versus food thing continues across the Atlantic, and to things not entirely food. Or maybe I don't get enough pussy. 357859;1382587669;nubbins`;mike_c: +1 357860;1382587681;mircea_popescu;nubbins` i have no fucking idea tbh. 357861;1382587681;nubbins`;3 weeks and your body is nicotine-free 357862;1382587687;mike_c;i.e. your mind still remembers nicotine as a great way to relieve stress 357863;1382587694;nubbins`;mircea_popescu: because it's burned into my brain 357864;1382587696;mircea_popescu;what stress. 357865;1382587704;nubbins`;i'm still a smoker, and always will be 357866;1382587709;mircea_popescu;maybe that's it, i don't stress enough to addict. 357867;1382587713;VanCleef;the only to quit smoking is to be locked away on a island somewhere with a girl where you cant buy smokes and everytime u get a craving get a gobbie instead 357868;1382587714;nubbins`;i just haven't had a cigarette in two years 357869;1382587723;mike_c;that is interesting.. could be mp. 357870;1382587724;VanCleef;till the nicotine leaves your system 357871;1382587742;mike_c;nubbins`: agreed. 357872;1382587795;nubbins`;mircea_popescu: i did have fairly high stress levels during that period of my life 357873;1382587805;nubbins`;but i can't lay the blame fully on that 357874;1382587807;mircea_popescu;some of the girls smoke, for that matter. i sometimes join in over coffee, but i don't recall ever craving it 357875;1382587832;dub;kicking smoking is easy 357876;1382587839;dub;just dont be a bitch 357877;1382587843;nubbins`;dub, if you're ready to quit, it is 357878;1382587847;nubbins`;you just don't smoke 357879;1382587849;BingoBoingo;I'd have to say if I could choose which of the drugs I've tried to have an addiction to I'd probably want it to be Ketamine. That was fun. Coke was kind of fun, but bleh. 357880;1382587849;dub;yep 357881;1382587852;nubbins`;what's easier than not doing something? 357882;1382587869;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: Starting a fire. 357883;1382587874;nubbins`;hell, i'm not having a cigarette this very moment 357884;1382587875;mircea_popescu;ketamine ?! isn't that basically an anti allergic thing ? 357885;1382587886;nubbins`;ketamine is a dissociative 357886;1382587886;dub;no 357887;1382587891;nubbins`;they put dogs to sleep with it 357888;1382587894;nubbins`;:0 357889;1382587906;dub;they use it for trauma anesthesia too 357890;1382587914;nubbins`;er yeah, that's what i meant 357891;1382587921;nubbins`;forgot that "sleep" is a euphemism in pet-world 357892;1382587923;dub;I've mainlined it recreationally, not a whole lot of fun 357893;1382587924;mircea_popescu;dub i could swear they used it as antihistamine here in the 90s 357894;1382587934;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: It is an anesthetic, but more than anything exotic it has a good feel. If I was picking an antihistamine to be addicted to I'd probably go with mirtazapine. 357895;1382587942;nubbins`;meh 357896;1382587957;nubbins`;i've had insane antihistamines 357897;1382587960;nubbins`;they just make you sleepy 357898;1382587969;nubbins`;had an injection once, slept for most of 4 days 357899;1382587985;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: They only make you sleepy until they take your further than sleepy. 357900;1382587991;nubbins`;heh! 357901;1382588041;BingoBoingo;Once they take you further than that... You have to start hedging vague memories of a past you with the word allegedly. 357902;1382588051;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1151 @ 0.0048572 = 5.5906 BTC [+] {7} 357903;1382588089;nubbins`;if i had a dollar for every "allegedly"... 357904;1382588112;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 204 @ 0.0052 = 1.0608 BTC [+] {2} 357905;1382588123;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo wait, that's the explanation of the bizarre written style some people employ filling any discussion of their past with "allegedly" ? they're pill poppers ? 357906;1382588129;nubbins`;hell, if i had a dollar for every time i achieved complete awareness 357907;1382588143;nubbins`;mircea_popescu: either that, or they plead not-guilty 357908;1382588190;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: No, sometimes they are drunks. Othertimes they are too paranoid to trust their counsel. Any of those three reasons though might have saved the fatso running Gox. 357909;1382588222;mircea_popescu;"i've allegedly signed some papers i've never read" 357910;1382588226;mircea_popescu;yeah, sounds grand 357911;1382588299;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: And that is why GPG is great. It forces the removal of "allegedly" or forgery. 357912;1382588340;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Maybe you send some federal magistrates Cardanos as a promotion? 357913;1382588346;nubbins`;can you gpg sign your whereabouts on the evening of the 16th? 357914;1382588357;nubbins`;BingoBoingo: that's a lot of Cardanos ;) 357915;1382588379;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo they'd probably think it's a bomb. 357916;1382588389;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: I just might be able to. I actually think I auth'd with gribble last Wednesday. 357917;1382588408;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Maybe only make one or two bombs then. 357918;1382588455;asciilifeform;phun phact: one of my old workplaces, a military lab, had ads hanging in the lounges, offering decent $ (around a thousand if i recall) for being given ketamine. 357919;1382588459;mircea_popescu;how would you pick who to send them to then 357920;1382588479;asciilifeform;most of the 'take a phone #' tabs remained in place. very few takers. 357921;1382588483;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: After stage 2, 3, and 4 of your latest bounty. 357922;1382588499;dub;asciilifeform: so you worked with a bunch of drug users 357923;1382588520;BingoBoingo;SOunds more like testing dub 357924;1382588525;asciilifeform;dub: there were also ads for 'agree to be given malaria.' 357925;1382588530;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform can't be that hard to get ?! 357926;1382588554;asciilifeform;easy to get. they stuff an arm into a sort of chamber filled with 'anopheles.' 357927;1382588561;nubbins`;heh 357928;1382588561;dub;theres a pretty narrow band in whih ketamine is 'fun' a lot of users know this and avoid it 357929;1382588582;dub;for medical grade ketamine I would say its not enjoyable at all 357930;1382588611;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform i meant the ketamine 357931;1382588611;asciilifeform;afaik it (ketamine, not malaria) was being tried as a 'ptsd' cure. 357932;1382588624;mircea_popescu;o wait, they gave it to you 357933;1382588625;mircea_popescu;heh. 357934;1382588649;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Ketamine as well as Molly test rather well for that purpose in limited studies. 357935;1382588679;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: i believe those were the 'limited studies.' 357936;1382588719;asciilifeform;nobody took the offer because, as i understand, grunts didn't want to burn through their paid leave. 357937;1382588737;asciilifeform;lying around in a lab, answering quizzes while being injected with strange. 357938;1382588755;dub;mdma is considered perfectly safe and quite useful for a number of things 357939;1382588786;dub;sexual dysfunction included 357940;1382588793;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Well, there have been some in North America too. It is a situation where differing definitions of recovery and diagnoses conflict. I've had a cousin who while in the service got an AIDs shot in an experiment and still has something resembling an immune system though, so... 357941;1382588844;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 76 @ 0.00550001 = 0.418 BTC [-] {2} 357942;1382588861;dub;pure mdma in the vein is pretty interesting too 357943;1382589068;BingoBoingo;dub: Most MDMA isn't pure though. It actually gets less pure when powdered and refered to as "Molly" 357944;1382589088;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00550001 = 0.275 BTC [-] 357945;1382589288;dub;yeah with all kinds of shit thrown in for extra bang (heroin is popular) 357946;1382589342;BingoBoingo;dub: Do you remember Darryl Strawberry? 357947;1382589363;dub;no but im !murican 357948;1382589456;BingoBoingo;dub: He was a ball player. He actually looks healthier now. 357949;1382589548;dub;sounds like an all american story, baller turned crackhead turned pastor 357950;1382589600;nubbins`;hmm, this new purple emulsion we bought has turned brown 357951;1382589698;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 6971 @ 0.00014753 = 1.0284 BTC [-] {5} 357952;1382589720;dub;purple drank? 357953;1382589741;nubbins`;nah, it's basically photosensitive glue 357954;1382589743;BingoBoingo;dub: More like baller turned crackhead, turned regular at the local hooters, but still. 357955;1382589772;mircea_popescu;a guy with a name like darryl strawberry should be involved in the child sex trade, not fucking drugs 357956;1382589774;nubbins`;never had it change color like this before 357957;1382589783;nubbins`;darryl strawberry was on the simpsons once 357958;1382589799;nubbins`;http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/869972/straw.jpg 357959;1382589863;mircea_popescu;list of bizarre sex articles on trilema someone may want to translate : http://trilema.com/2011/abuzul-si-fetele/ ; http://trilema.com/2011/moment-de-intimitate-n-baie/ ; http://trilema.com/2011/momentary-ebullution-of-intimacy/ 357960;1382590412;BingoBoingo;ChaangNoi: What is Cognitive going for lately? 357961;1382590563;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: When's the last time you were on TradeFortress's CoinChat? 357962;1382590587;mircea_popescu;i never was. 357963;1382590714;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Ah, I though you said sometime you had stopped by to visit. 357964;1382590735;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00550001 = 0.275 BTC [-] 357965;1382590784;mircea_popescu;quote it if possible 357966;1382590925;BingoBoingo;I'll search the logs, might be a while. Or maybe I'm trippin balls. Probably the latter. 357967;1382590974;nubbins`;maybe 357968;1382590981;nubbins`;has the room filled up with vibrations yet? 357969;1382590986;mircea_popescu;In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their s 357970;1382590986;mircea_popescu;ense of probity. To assent to obvious lies isin some small way to become evil oneself. Ones standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to. 357971;1382591034;nubbins`;huh. 357972;1382591062;mircea_popescu;quote of the day 357973;1382591162;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 215 @ 0.0055 = 1.1825 BTC [-] 357974;1382591175;mircea_popescu;im a one chan type of guy. 357975;1382591224;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.58999999 = 1.18 BTC [+] 357976;1382591260;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: I understand. I need to blog moar. 357977;1382591406;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1249 @ 0.0055 = 6.8695 BTC [-] {2} 357978;1382591505;nubbins`;all those guys who bought AM shares at 4+ must be fitting themselves for ropes right now 357979;1382591589;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5850 @ 0.00083331 = 4.8749 BTC [-] 357980;1382591650;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 99 @ 0.00209 = 0.2069 BTC [+] 357981;1382591717;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: How are the ones who sold at 4+ doing though... Sometimes that lack of a proper market helps enrich the tards. 357982;1382591772;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 62 @ 0.0055 = 0.341 BTC [-] 357983;1382592145;BingoBoingo;Anyone in this channel play chess at all? 357984;1382592180;nubbins`;i play occasionally. not very good 357985;1382592245;nubbins`;used to play via SMS with a friend who moved away. two boards + algebraic notation ;) 357986;1382592259;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: Neither am I. ~950 Elo rated if anyone cares. 357987;1382592286;nubbins`;i've printed chessboards, too 357988;1382592289;nubbins`;fun stuff 357989;1382592315;nubbins`;regulation-size boards are huge. they make for good wall art 357990;1382592426;BingoBoingo;Yeah they do. Finding decent glue to hold the pieces is another challenge though. 357991;1382592486;nubbins`;my dad's big into woodworking, he has an insane glue collection 357992;1382592495;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: Prefer white or black? 357993;1382592510;nubbins`;i've just been printing flat ones on cotton rag so far, but i'm hoping to try printing directly to wood soon 357994;1382592520;nubbins`;i prefer white 357995;1382592538;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: PM me if you want to start a game. 357996;1382592566;nubbins`;will do, pretty hectic these days but i'm sure i can find somewhere to set a board up 357997;1382592568;BingoBoingo;(unless assbot is plugged into Rybka) 357998;1382592572;nubbins`;;;goxlag 357999;1382592573;gribble;MtGox lag is 1.011352 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00202673808434 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin across the outer diameter of Saturn's rings (0.0024 AU). 358000;1382592576;BingoBoingo;;; 358001;1382592624;nubbins`;like six minutes ago? 358002;1382592638;nubbins`;gribble: MtGox lag is 580874.405675 seconds. During this time, light travels 1164.06580518 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to heliopause (out of the solar system!) (100 AU). 358003;1382592643;nubbins`;actually, 4 minutes ago 358004;1382592652;nubbins`;guess they're having problems :p 358005;1382592680;BingoBoingo;I was thinking April. I didn't realize they still pretended they had volume. 358006;1382592703;mod6;yeah, back this spring it went down for quite a long time. 358007;1382592960;mod6;;;bc,stats 358008;1382592962;gribble;Current Blocks: 265682 | Current Difficulty: 2.677312494824211E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 266111 | Next Difficulty In: 429 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 20 hours, 45 minutes, and 54 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 382512508.366 | Estimated Percent Change: 42.87182 358009;1382592994;nubbins`;42! 358010;1382593724;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 6 @ 0.06999999 = 0.42 BTC [+] 358011;1382593785;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 475 @ 0.00114999 = 0.5462 BTC [+] 358012;1382593788;mod6;huh, just saw this site for the first time: http://www.digitalattackmap.com/ 358013;1382594090;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 19 @ 0.06999999 = 1.33 BTC [+] 358014;1382594639;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 56 @ 0.0055 = 0.308 BTC [-] 358015;1382595798;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 14 @ 0.56114286 = 7.856 BTC [-] {4} 358016;1382595949;mircea_popescu;so who here has heard the term "neoreactionary" before ? 358017;1382596081;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Wait a bit, nubbins` needs to learn this chess thing 358018;1382596350;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Isn't neoreactionary an #Urbit thing? 358019;1382596362;mircea_popescu;i suppose it may be. 358020;1382596379;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/in-which-i-discuss-things-i-have-no-idea-about/ to trace where i stumbled on it 358021;1382596380;ozbot;In which I discuss things I have no idea about pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 358022;1382596523;BingoBoingo;I'll get to reading once the kingdom of nubbins` falls 358023;1382596611;nubbins`;looks pretty grim 358024;1382596764;mircea_popescu;by the way, didja know fiat-iq is also inflation prone ? 358025;1382596767;BingoBoingo;Today might be the day the Ras Tafari beats the I'talians http://i.imgur.com/WnROeUp.jpg 358026;1382596774;mircea_popescu;(in the sense the 100 iq average is periodically resampled) 358027;1382596902;BingoBoingo;I have a feeling raw IQ like mining probably has fundamental problems in that the people anticipating profits don't know how to wipe. 358028;1382596951;mircea_popescu;still, probably the one applciation of asciilifeform's slavecoin 358029;1382597024;nubbins`;BingoBoingo: my board's fancier 358030;1382597025;nubbins`;http://i.imgur.com/MedBs7f.png 358031;1382597068;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: Your board also lacks things to take on c5 358032;1382597116;mircea_popescu;bingo has won 358033;1382597136;nubbins`;heh 358034;1382597138;nubbins`;yep 358035;1382597143;mircea_popescu;that F pawn is a queen pretty much 358036;1382597207;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Well the f or the h pawn depending on how he decides to struggle. Preferably the f though to avoid a forced stalemate. 358037;1382597240;mircea_popescu;there's nothing he can do to prevent the F 358038;1382597251;mircea_popescu;if he moves before it you push the h/e pawns into him 358039;1382597262;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 29 @ 0.00555 = 0.161 BTC [+] 358040;1382597273;mircea_popescu;preferably g first as it needs a move anyway 358041;1382597277;BingoBoingo;Now the f-pawn is inevitable. 358042;1382597394;BingoBoingo;http://imgur.com/2J0i4DU 358043;1382597395;ozbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 358044;1382597660;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: It is over, so I'll read nao 358045;1382597710;nubbins`;https://www.dropbox.com/s/hfu11uljk3kjbcs/chess.svg if anyone wants a board i made in .svg format 358046;1382597760;nubbins`;on that note, it's 4:30am. nite 358047;1382597811;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12800 @ 0.00083451 = 10.6817 BTC [+] {2} 358048;1382598055;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.34989999 BTC [+] 358049;1382598116;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.34989999 BTC [+] 358050;1382598117;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00083474 = 3.2555 BTC [+] 358051;1382598251;taub;i want it to drop hard again 358052;1382598254;taub;not sure it will 358053;1382598331;BingoBoingo;taub: How long wou willing to wait? 358054;1382598372;taub;cant say 358055;1382598395;taub;if we go back up above this high (204 on bitstamp) its not good :D 358056;1382598418;taub;basically means "yea there was a huge selloff, no big deal got absorbed, on we go" 358057;1382598482;taub;short term 1-2 days i'd say bearish to rangeish 358058;1382598482;BingoBoingo;I think the new idiots are going to take us to a new high 358059;1382598502;taub;gtg 358060;1382599519;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11219 @ 0.00083646 = 9.3842 BTC [+] {3} 358061;1382600251;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21735 @ 0.00083233 = 18.0907 BTC [-] {4} 358062;1382601472;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.561 BTC [-] 358063;1382601473;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 150 @ 0.00224993 = 0.3375 BTC [+] 358064;1382601532;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 242 @ 0.00114998 = 0.2783 BTC [-] 358065;1382601682;BingoBoingo;Also, this BitBet should probably resolve. I though it would have taken longer... http://bitbet.us/bet/545/no-such-labs-higher-market-cap-than-s-mg/#c1660 Apperently S.NSA rocks the marketing though. 358066;1382602678;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo how do you figure ? 358067;1382602710;mircea_popescu;$ticker m s.mg 358068;1382602717;mircea_popescu;$vwap m s.mg 358069;1382602718;mpexbot;mircea_popescu: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. 358070;1382602721;mircea_popescu;$vwap s.mg 358071;1382602722;mpexbot;mircea_popescu: S.MG 1 day: no data 7 day: average: 0.00016401 high: 0.00018 low: 0.00015 volume: 27127 btc: 4.44903 30 day: average: 0.00017041 high: 0.00018001 low: 0.00015 volume: 45227 btc: 7.70704 358072;1382602725;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: The BitBet? I just mathed the last prices into market caps 358073;1382602751;BingoBoingo;From the MPEx.co site. 358074;1382602752;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00082835 = 7.7865 BTC [-] {2} 358075;1382602766;BingoBoingo;Then again websites are notoriously unreliable. 358076;1382602791;mircea_popescu;;;calc 0.00017041 * 88096605 358077;1382602791;gribble;15012.542458 358078;1382602797;mircea_popescu;$vwap s.nsa 358079;1382602798;mpexbot;mircea_popescu: S.NSA 1 day: average: 0.000235 high: 0.000235 low: 0.000235 volume: 5000 btc: 1.175 7 day: average: 0.00010108 high: 0.00028 low: 0.0001 volume: 726000 btc: 73.383 30 day: average: 0.00010017 high: 0.00028 low: 0.0001 volume: 4743075 btc: 475.095695 358080;1382602851;mircea_popescu;;;calc 0.00010017*4737075 358081;1382602851;gribble;474.51280275 358082;1382602871;mircea_popescu;;;calc 15012.542458 / 474.51280275 * 100 358083;1382602871;gribble;3163.78027547 358084;1382602884;BingoBoingo;I might also be a bit drunk to math, but... I was under the impression S.NSA and S.MG were both 100 million shares and S.BBET was 10. I may have mathed or contracted wrong though. 358085;1382602885;mircea_popescu;s.mg is 3163.x% s.nsa 358086;1382602903;BingoBoingo;Ah. 358087;1382602909;mircea_popescu;no. s.nsa sold ~4mn, which became the total authorised float. s.mg sold ~88mn, which became the total authorised float 358088;1382602959;BingoBoingo;I see. This is why I bet rather than invest. 358089;1382603042;BingoBoingo;I'm still inclined to believe a production Cardano will ship before Euloria hits production. 358090;1382603169;BingoBoingo;;; 358091;1382603179;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5301 BTC [-] 358092;1382603285;mircea_popescu;possibly. entirely different items. 358093;1382603302;mircea_popescu;at least in their lifecycle. eulora for that matter is already available. 358094;1382603375;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: A form of Eulora is available. I wonder how many people might want to buy 5+ Demigod or Lich characters in Eulora versus people who might see a need for as many Cardanos. 358095;1382603400;mircea_popescu;i doubt there will be five liches active at any one time in eulora. 358096;1382603411;mircea_popescu;maybe with a population surpassing wow. 358097;1382603505;BingoBoingo;I mean RSA is old, 70's math and still stands with proper key pairs. It seems the kind of asymmetric encryption still. I mean how did Rand corporation grow so big? 358098;1382603517;BingoBoingo;*king 358099;1382603563;mircea_popescu;in general in computer science people split into two groups, ie, the retards and the competent, by the code they use. 358100;1382603574;mircea_popescu;retards imagine "all new code" is better, as if code rusted. 358101;1382603587;mircea_popescu;competent people still use the 1950s C and the 1970s C compiler 358102;1382603606;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7977 @ 0.00082834 = 6.6077 BTC [-] {2} 358103;1382603648;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Depends on what you mean by code. Language would probably be a dubious distinction. The way they organize their code is probably the point. 358104;1382603671;BingoBoingo;Who cares how many person hours Python saves if the code runs 100x slower. 358105;1382603714;mircea_popescu;no, language is a fine distinction. the practical choice one has today is still the same one had in 1960 : eiher something algol-like, something haskel-like, something lisp-like or perhaps an stack insanity a la asm. 358106;1382603736;mircea_popescu;c has been repackaged 12+ times in the intervening 50 years to appeal to retarded teenagers 358107;1382603747;mircea_popescu;im not sure what's fashionable now that java and ruby are dead, but anyway. 358108;1382603775;mircea_popescu;lisp started doing the same thing strictly out of frustration, like the geek that's now wearing a new jockstrap each week maybe he gets to be as popular with the young ditzes as the jock 358109;1382603841;BingoBoingo;Yeah. I've only ever dealt with C++, Fortran, and Python in that order. C++ I remember as fast, fortran was verbose, and I never wrote anything important enough to feel slow though other people's .py programs have. 358110;1382603850;BingoBoingo;Do geeks wear jockstraps nao? 358111;1382603934;BingoBoingo;I mean the armory wallet is a python program where going through the interpreter on Linux it is unbearably slow though when compiled for Windows it was fast. 358112;1382603955;mircea_popescu;well poorly optimised compilers are really a distantly related subdiscussion 358113;1382603989;BingoBoingo;Of course. As are people trying to substitute interpreters for compilers a la the Lisp machine. 358114;1382604096;BingoBoingo;I think in computing there might be some almost necessary balance between complete control and optimal speed. 358115;1382604207;mircea_popescu;this is untrue. writing directly in assembler is both the most control and the most speed. 358116;1382604240;mircea_popescu;the balance is between (laziness, ignorance and their offspring) in the human operator on one end and (sugar spice and everything nice) in the machine on the other. 358117;1382604241;jurov;morning 358118;1382604248;mircea_popescu;heya. 358119;1382604327;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Probably, but it is quite a leap creating code that can be organized in assembly for the TI-89 and assembler for a modern x86 chip. I imagine the leap to the assembler OCL compile to would be still harder to organize. 358120;1382604357;mircea_popescu;it's a homologuous problem to beating the machine in the numbers game earlier. 358121;1382604360;mircea_popescu;you need a big head to do it. 358122;1382604460;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 252 @ 0.0055 = 1.386 BTC [-] 358123;1382604489;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: At some point even a big head faile unless is surrenders to the aspersorzing. The TI-89 and the 0x0 Macs were the last machines I remember assembler and BASIC flavors being comparably organizable, though my experience in the matter is limited. 358124;1382604583;mircea_popescu;this is basically institutional laziness created to not throw the curve for black people. 358125;1382604603;mircea_popescu;in point of fact asm is quite transparent and quite transparently used by actually competent programmers, such as malware creators. 358126;1382604609;mircea_popescu;even for and on modern systems 358127;1382604629;mircea_popescu;that this isn't required of sophomore it students in the west speaks more of the poor quality of it education in the west. 358128;1382604744;BingoBoingo;Once I finally got internet access programming the computers fell into the backseat and finding pr0n on the computers moved to the fore. A failure of education may be one factor. There is probably also a failure of inflicting hunger as well though. 358129;1382604871;BingoBoingo;I've always counted on malware wuthors being necessarily more sophisticated since they are more likely to have primal motivations like hunder fueling their master of the craft. 358130;1382604900;mircea_popescu;see, im not sure why hunger and education'd be separate issues. 358131;1382604906;BingoBoingo;Ah, I butchered the typing on that sentence... 358132;1382604957;mircea_popescu;"either write a chess program in asm or starve for one month" seems a perfectly healthy proposition for any 20 year old to confront. 358133;1382605020;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: They probably ought not be so separated, but when a 'Murican school feeds all of the students like the football team everyone gets fat and no one really wants for anything. Having heavy a fat offensive line undermines the school's educational mission. 358134;1382605062;mircea_popescu;well... it's easier, and more comfortable, and always easier to find cheap waitresses than cheap mistresses, so... 358135;1382605089;BingoBoingo;Of course. 358136;1382605384;mircea_popescu;it's funny, they go to all this trouble to make school as much like a prison as possible, but then fail to take advantage of any of the implicit benefits. 358137;1382605696;Vexual;the comparative success of peeps at the pointy ends of a bell curve isn't realteable to the hardship of the masses 358138;1382605767;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: I took a seminar on the Kritik der reinen Vernunft where after covering the transcendental aesthetic and analytic the professor just stopped. The transendental dialectic, pure reason, and the doctrine of method remained. In a graduate seminar where physical hunger ought be expected of the students. Thus I stopped taking academic philosophy seriously as covered in the program. 358139;1382605806;mircea_popescu;i don't know americans ever had the opportunity to listen to philosophy lectures in their country. 358140;1382605834;mircea_popescu;maybe if some actual philosopher ever visited and felt inclined to talk to the hordes, which seems improbable. 358141;1382605857;mircea_popescu;Vexual what's that mean ? 358142;1382605989;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: There was once. This fellow William James at a point finally overcame his neuroses and condensed his principles of psychology into Psychology a Briefer course. Then his own dementia and this Dewey asshole had to undo his good work. 358143;1382606050;mircea_popescu;well ok, but psychology is not philosophy. and for that matter, really difficult to argue it into much more than a fashionable lady passtime. 358144;1382606080;Vexual;you could throttle every internet user today to 300 bps and give them a book on asm.. one guy would make the porn come fast 358145;1382606155;mircea_popescu;perhaps. how would this constitute schooling ? 358146;1382606165;Vexual;the only reason he did was because he could 358147;1382606172;mircea_popescu;schooling is all about putting people in controlled environment designed for their changing. 358148;1382606174;Vexual;thats my point 358149;1382606195;Vexual;who do you want to school? 358150;1382606210;mircea_popescu;hardly a point. this seems the three year old's expectation that his mother will feed him because she can. 358151;1382606219;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Well, it was the age before you could deform a turtle into a peanut. Before and greater than James there was this Charles Pierce fellow, but he ate garbage even though in set theory papers are still now not uncommonly found to have proofs he offered earlier. Logic isn't quite philosophy though either. 358152;1382606232;mircea_popescu;and i don't want to school anyone, there's about 10mn people pretending they are schooling a hundred million kids in the us. 358153;1382606258;Vexual;that one guy isnt trying to school anyone 358154;1382606262;BingoBoingo;I will confess John Dewey ruined 'Murica's chance of having a philosophical legacy. 358155;1382606268;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo the list is longer than pierce, who is imo respectable, but exactly : logic is logic, and "utilitarianism" isn't much philosophy. 358156;1382606307;Vexual;if one was to create a programming language, then the idea is to school people 358157;1382606322;mircea_popescu;and i don't think dewey ruined anything. i think dewey just "cut through the cuts that were there" as the old azn story goes. 358158;1382606354;mircea_popescu;Vexual the idea to school people comes from a desire to have them powerful and idnependent citizens, rather than worthless dependent subjects. 358159;1382606412;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 500 @ 0.0055 = 2.75 BTC [-] 358160;1382606430;krlbrgmn;what did just happen to the price? 358161;1382606502;BingoBoingo;Pragmatism in the tradition of James (and Pierce would distinguish himself by surrendering pragmatism to the label or pragmaticism) isn't quite the utilitarianism of Hume or Dewey as it is often presented though. So long as you stop reading James before he goes all Jebus, and spz world peace. 358162;1382606516;mircea_popescu;;;ticker 358163;1382606516;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 203.20000, Best ask: 204.97933, Bid-ask spread: 1.77933, Last trade: 204.98000, 24 hour volume: 96843.45810453, 24 hour low: 175.30001, 24 hour high: 233.40000, 24 hour vwap: 206.41400 358164;1382606523;mircea_popescu;krlbrgmn what ? 358165;1382606565;krlbrgmn;the flash crash 358166;1382606595;mircea_popescu;im sorry, price is 200, day min max is 175/233. what flash crash ? 358167;1382606604;mircea_popescu;did i miss something ? 358168;1382606616;krlbrgmn;175/233 is a 25% difference 358169;1382606623;BingoBoingo;krlbrgmn: Just normal volatility. In an hour we could be at 90 or 320? What can you do? 358170;1382606659;krlbrgmn;25% can be considered a flash crash, or not? 358171;1382606665;Vexual;big yuan influx will enjoy this type of risky trading in the coming 12 months 358172;1382606671;BingoBoingo;krlbrgmn: Not in Bitcoin really. 358173;1382606697;BingoBoingo;krlbrgmn: It is too late to blame Pirateat40 so blame LabCoin 358174;1382606706;mircea_popescu;yeah, kinda par for the course here. you certainly can't say "crash" if the price isn't at day lows. 358175;1382606728;krlbrgmn;oh well, the fuckers got me into a bear trap 358176;1382606741;krlbrgmn;sold @190 358177;1382606747;krlbrgmn;is it a wise thing to buy back in? 358178;1382606752;mircea_popescu;in general it's a good idea to set a long term strategy and follow that. 358179;1382606769;mircea_popescu;the stories you hear about "ordinary citizens just like you" daytrading for a profit are mostly fake. 358180;1382606786;krlbrgmn;but when you see a 25% decrease in the price, it's hard to keep calm 358181;1382606786;BingoBoingo;krlbrgmn: Maybe buy back in at $187.50? Everyone has to price and stratagem on their own. 358182;1382606800;BingoBoingo;krlbrgmn: Have you tried alaprazolam? 358183;1382606812;mircea_popescu;well, why is it hard ? that's why the long term strategy is a long term strategy. 358184;1382606814;Vexual;im audi gents. keep it real 358185;1382606833;BingoBoingo;krlbrgmn: I hear lorezapam works wonders too. 358186;1382606874;krlbrgmn;mircea_popescu and what long term strategy would sound good to you? 358187;1382606896;mircea_popescu;well, that's something you'd have to come up with on your own. 358188;1382606918;mircea_popescu;you know your own circumstance, make some long term predictions and split your effort accordingly. 358189;1382607009;mircea_popescu;i still have coins i bought at 3.x for that matter. 358190;1382607018;krlbrgmn;don't you day trade? 358191;1382607023;mircea_popescu;nope. 358192;1382607038;mircea_popescu;and you know, a sucker is me for not having sold out at 250 or w/e. 358193;1382607053;krlbrgmn;I guess I'm learning this the hard way :( 358194;1382607088;mircea_popescu;so how many btc did you sell at 190 ? 358195;1382607126;BingoBoingo;Other than piddly shit to acquire coin I made two trades this spring, both at on the same day. 358196;1382607937;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0055 = 0.55 BTC [-] 358197;1382608033;jurov;um, i last daytraded on mtgox maybe year ago. there are more interesting things (such as attempts to tape paint s.nsa) 358198;1382608098;kakobrekla;i just trade eurusd with btc. 358199;1382608269;BingoBoingo;Well, I had the sell order sitting there for a nearly a month, but Uppity Tortilla seemed to push it though. Once I have the email it sold I placed the buy and withdrew. I more gamble than trade though. 358200;1382608364;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8265 @ 0.00082937 = 6.8547 BTC [+] 358201;1382608490;mircea_popescu;;;ticker 358202;1382608490;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 198.75078, Best ask: 198.84000, Bid-ask spread: 0.08922, Last trade: 198.84000, 24 hour volume: 98613.04119587, 24 hour low: 175.30001, 24 hour high: 233.40000, 24 hour vwap: 206.26809 358203;1382608852;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5895 BTC [+] 358204;1382608974;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 182 @ 0.00224993 = 0.4095 BTC [+] 358205;1382609706;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21926 @ 0.00082871 = 18.1703 BTC [-] {2} 358206;1382609767;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 126 @ 0.00224993 = 0.2835 BTC [+] 358207;1382609768;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00083539 = 9.2728 BTC [+] {2} 358208;1382609828;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 533 @ 0.00224994 = 1.1992 BTC [+] 358209;1382609950;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.58999895 BTC [+] 358210;1382612390;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00083316 = 4.4157 BTC [-] {2} 358211;1382612695;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.56 BTC [-] 358212;1382613488;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.56 BTC [-] 358213;1382613908;pankkake;;;bc,stats 358214;1382613910;gribble;Current Blocks: 265723 | Current Difficulty: 2.677312494824211E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 266111 | Next Difficulty In: 388 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 19 hours, 6 minutes, and 39 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 380342143.25 | Estimated Percent Change: 42.06117 358215;1382614094;pankkake;;;market sell 36000 358216;1382614094;gribble;A market order to sell 36000 bitcoins right now would net 5634549.7838 USD and would take the last price down to 125.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 156.5153 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 214.4859 seconds 358217;1382614403;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 26 @ 0.00550001 = 0.143 BTC [+] 358218;1382614525;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 341 @ 0.00550001 = 1.8755 BTC [+] 358219;1382615196;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00083272 = 0.8327 BTC [-] 358220;1382615379;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 3039 @ 0.00200033 = 6.079 BTC [-] {6} 358221;1382615380;assbot;[MPEX] [S.NSA] 2000 @ 0.000234 = 0.468 BTC [-] 358222;1382615440;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.0008304 = 7.4736 BTC [-] 358223;1382615989;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12050 @ 0.00083272 = 10.0343 BTC [+] 358224;1382616050;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69348300 BTC to 1`386`966 shares, 50 satoshi per share 358225;1382616130;KRS1;damnit! stupid sleep. Missed out on a great buying opportunity last night. 358226;1382616644;KRS1;need a good btc price/volume alarm anyone know of a reliable one? 358227;1382616757;VanCleef;i'll call your mobile till you wake up 358228;1382617106;KRS1;ok I'll pm you later to give you the limits/bounds 358229;1382617331;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 0.07 = 0.35 BTC [+] 358230;1382617575;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 164 @ 0.00550001 = 0.902 BTC [+] 358231;1382617969;jurov;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1p465g/whats_happening_at_bitstamp_shootup_order_book_is/ 358232;1382617970;ozbot;Whats happening at bitstamp? Shootup, order book is not fullfilling. Other exchanges still low : Bit 358233;1382617976;jurov;cans with a string buckling? 358234;1382618124;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 5056 @ 0.0055 = 27.808 BTC [-] {3} 358235;1382618125;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1350 @ 0.0008304 = 1.121 BTC [-] 358236;1382618178;jurov;http://edanyago.me/2013/10/23/a-bubble-for-our-toil-and-trouble/ 358237;1382618178;ozbot;A Bubble for our Toil and Trouble | Yago tries to write these thoughts. 358238;1382618189;jurov;"Bitcoin has broken out of its crazy Libertarian mold, and has started to appeal to other sorts of crazies" hahaha 358239;1382618246;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 2663 @ 0.00549996 = 14.6464 BTC [-] {3} 358240;1382618247;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.56 = 5.6 BTC [-] 358241;1382618406;VanCleef;industry full of grubs 358242;1382619588;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 250 @ 0.00500001 = 1.25 BTC [-] {3} 358243;1382619589;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.58999895 BTC [+] 358244;1382619893;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5000 @ 0.00015 = 0.75 BTC [-] {3} 358245;1382619895;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 20 @ 0.1214044 = 2.4281 BTC [-] {2} 358246;1382619954;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 954 @ 0.00051968 = 0.4958 BTC [-] {6} 358247;1382619955;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 234 @ 0.00557694 = 1.305 BTC [-] {3} 358248;1382620015;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 225 @ 0.00557699 = 1.2548 BTC [+] {2} 358249;1382620137;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 274 @ 0.00557699 = 1.5281 BTC [+] 358250;1382620198;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 317 @ 0.00557699 = 1.7679 BTC [+] {2} 358251;1382620259;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 0.07 = 0.35 BTC [+] 358252;1382620503;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00082907 = 6.9642 BTC [-] 358253;1382620930;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5350 @ 0.00082907 = 4.4355 BTC [-] 358254;1382621967;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4927 @ 0.00083152 = 4.0969 BTC [+] 358255;1382624163;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.53131 BTC [-] 358256;1382625444;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00082879 = 3.4809 BTC [-] 358257;1382626115;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00224992 = 0.1125 BTC [+] 358258;1382626237;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00082857 = 7.2914 BTC [-] 358259;1382627274;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.12121212 = 0.2424 BTC [-] 358260;1382627335;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 9 @ 0.13318435 = 1.1987 BTC [+] {4} 358261;1382629653;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6568 @ 0.00082784 = 5.4373 BTC [-] {3} 358262;1382630507;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5178 @ 0.00082863 = 4.2906 BTC [+] 358263;1382631483;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00082863 = 7.2919 BTC [+] 358264;1382632215;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 77 @ 0.00505 = 0.3889 BTC [+] 358265;1382632703;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 37 @ 0.005 = 0.185 BTC [-] 358266;1382633300;nubbins`;;;seen mircea_popescu 358267;1382633300;gribble;mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 hours, 53 minutes, and 29 seconds ago: <mircea_popescu> ;;ticker 358268;1382634271;deadweasel;--ticker 358269;1382635265;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24950 @ 0.0008288 = 20.6786 BTC [+] {2} 358270;1382635314;skinnkavaj;Bitcoin down, Litecoin UP 358271;1382635370;skinnkavaj;pankkake: you ready for november? 358272;1382635391;skinnkavaj;mircea_popescu? 358273;1382635423;pankkake;that's why you sold litecoins earlier and bought at the bottom then? 358274;1382635444;pankkake;I'm not really seeing what you're saying though 358275;1382635505;pankkake;volume is pretty low 358276;1382635533;skinnkavaj;low? 358277;1382635540;skinnkavaj;one million LTC switching hands yesterday 358278;1382635695;pankkake;oh so recovery is 0.01 average. noted 358279;1382635968;KRS-;heh 358280;1382635997;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 570 @ 0.00507592 = 2.8933 BTC [-] {7} 358281;1382636023;pankkake;today my ass is like http://virtualminingcorp.com/example/slider55.jpg :/ 358282;1382636431;jborkl;wtf, is that real.. lol 358283;1382636546;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 500 @ 0.00520001 = 2.6 BTC [+] 358284;1382636547;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6827 @ 0.00082945 = 5.6627 BTC [+] 358285;1382636607;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 77 @ 0.00498001 = 0.3835 BTC [-] 358286;1382636668;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.00497999 = 0.996 BTC [-] {3} 358287;1382636790;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 77 @ 0.00498 = 0.3835 BTC [+] 358288;1382637010;Diablo-D3;and dmc is now under 3000. 358289;1382637105;Diablo-D3;I wonder why its taking so long for people to trade their shares in 358290;1382637389;kakobrekla;that thing still exists? 358291;1382637446;Diablo-D3;kakobrekla: yes 358292;1382637478;kakobrekla;too bad you turned down mpex eh 358293;1382637490;Diablo-D3;not really 358294;1382637496;Diablo-D3;mpex is next on the SEC's list 358295;1382637554;bob____;i hear the sec has a lot of pull in romania 358296;1382637656;Diablo-D3;bob____: just like every other government agency, the SEC thinks it can control other countries 358297;1382637694;pankkake;it can 358298;1382637702;pankkake;but it can't control the internets 358299;1382637703;Diablo-D3;it can and does 358300;1382637712;bob____;yeah, but they've only managed to crap on gox's us accounts, and btct (based in US, no?). so not sure what it could do to mpex 358301;1382637715;Diablo-D3;pankkake: yes, but mp's identity is known 358302;1382637732;Diablo-D3;bob____: as long as he allows americans and american companies to list 358303;1382637737;Diablo-D3;he is under SEC jurisdiction 358304;1382637741;pankkake;well, he'll "sell" mpex to someone else when he's in prison 358305;1382637779;Diablo-D3;and romania is a member of the european union 358306;1382637787;Diablo-D3;so hes kinda fucked 358307;1382637791;bob____;idk. the poker/gambling websites that allowed americans only got in trouble through: 1) the banks or 2) when the founders entered the US 358308;1382637815;Diablo-D3;bob____: yes because they wernt worth extraditing 358309;1382637822;bob____;but mp is? 358310;1382637827;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 323 @ 0.00114799 = 0.3708 BTC [+] {2} 358311;1382637834;bob____;mpex is awesome and all, but they were bigger 358312;1382637835;Diablo-D3;yes because bitcoin is only used by drug lords 358313;1382637838;bob____;ah 358314;1382637842;bob____;hm 358315;1382637855;pankkake;move mpex to somalia 358316;1382637856;pankkake;done 358317;1382637868;Diablo-D3;pankkake: that would only improve somalia, really 358318;1382637880;Diablo-D3;a stable globally recognized currency would do wonders for them 358319;1382637883;bob____;idk.. the fucking pirate bay is still up 358320;1382637898;bob____;i don't buy it. mp > sec. 358321;1382637928;pankkake;The Somaliland shilling is the official currency of Somaliland, a self-declared republic that is internationally recognized as an autonomous region of Somalia.[5] The currency is not recognized as legal tender by the international community, and it currently has no official exchange rate. 358322;1382637936;pankkake;I see an exchange opportunity! 358323;1382637999;bob____;hell, isn't wikileaks still up? 358324;1382638011;bob____;us isn't quite omnipotent 358325;1382638014;pankkake;bob____: indeed. you can't stop the internet 358326;1382638033;pankkake;and they can't cut finances anymore 358327;1382638064;pankkake;which was the big angle of attack against torrent sites I used 358328;1382638077;pankkake;now most of them have bitcoin options, some as the default donation option 358329;1382638088;Diablo-D3;bob____: wikileaks is "up" 358330;1382638101;pankkake;wikileaks has billions of mirrors 358331;1382638120;Diablo-D3;in the sense that one of the greatest leakers of the past decade is in prison, another is hiding in russia, and the guy that runs wikileaks is hiding in an embassy 358332;1382638151;bob____;yes, but, the website is till up! so mpex will be ok :) 358333;1382638169;pankkake;mp will outrun them with his horse 358334;1382638174;bob____;heh 358335;1382638201;nubbins`;<bob____> idk.. the fucking pirate bay is still up 358336;1382638202;nubbins`;^ 358337;1382638256;pankkake;tpb is less and less relevant but it seems it is kept up just to stick it to the man 358338;1382638427;skinnkavaj;pankkake 358339;1382638430;skinnkavaj;Even better investment 358340;1382638437;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8535 @ 0.00082738 = 7.0617 BTC [-] 358341;1382638441;skinnkavaj;Throw your LTC here 358342;1382638442;skinnkavaj;https://dicenow.com/ 358343;1382638444;ozbot;dicenow 358344;1382638468;pankkake;why not throw bitcoins there? 358345;1382638482;skinnkavaj;pankkake: LTC is the most popular played 358346;1382638501;skinnkavaj;Not even worth investing with BTC there, too low volume 358347;1382638519;benkay;litecoin - it's for gamblers! 358348;1382638521;pankkake;does that compensate the loss of value (or risk of) of litecoins, compared to putting them into another of the many dice sites? 358349;1382638553;pankkake;but I would agree that there is no reason to have litecoins and not invest them someplace. that's what I did 358350;1382638564;skinnkavaj;pankkake: This one you can choose investment strategy and how much you RISK each bet. I have an investment that has made 90% profit 358351;1382638620;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 29 @ 0.00500017 = 0.145 BTC [-] {2} 358352;1382638660;skinnkavaj;pankkake is speechless again 358353;1382638730;deadweasel;please don't use investment and betting in the same sentence. 358354;1382638744;bob____;hopefully he means investing on the house side 358355;1382638753;deadweasel;god i hope so 358356;1382638754;pankkake;but this has nothing to do with litecoin. nor any of your investment prowess, this profit being a random occurence 358357;1382638769;deadweasel;teh maffs! 358358;1382638772;pankkake;yes, the litecoin house shows a 113% profit for now 358359;1382638809;pankkake;it is very very lucky 358360;1382638831;pankkake;hm is it a percentage or absolute? 358361;1382638926;pankkake;skinnkavaj: did you invest or other dice sites? 358362;1382638946;pankkake;and what edge did you chose? 358363;1382639438;skinnkavaj;pankkake: stop asking me go look on the site yourself, you can choose kelly 358364;1382639507;pankkake;it looks like you can chose the edge, not the max bet. I hope you understand how dice sites work too 358365;1382639568;skinnkavaj;pankkake: please stop writing, i made the 90% profit by investing in 10x kelly 358366;1382639662;pankkake;so you're just trying to show you made up for your losses? I don't really see the point in claiming profits 358367;1382639701;kakobrekla;skinnkavaj keep it up youll be the new WB in a few weeks 358368;1382639716;pankkake;Warner Bros? 358369;1382639718;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00224991 = 0.1125 BTC [-] 358370;1382639746;pankkake;there was this guy, fractal, who taunted people here too 358371;1382639764;kakobrekla;yes he is notorious for his investments ? 358372;1382639851;pankkake;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-09-2013&bots=true#324779 358373;1382639852;ozbot;#bitcoin-assets log 358374;1382639855;skinnkavaj;breaking news btc-e chat taken over by trolls 358375;1382639880;pankkake;I for one would not be glad if you lost more money skinnkavaj 358376;1382639887;pankkake;because I am a nice person deep down 358377;1382640450;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 108 @ 0.0050074 = 0.5408 BTC [+] {2} 358378;1382641157;mod6;;;bc,stats 358379;1382641160;gribble;Current Blocks: 265792 | Current Difficulty: 2.677312494824211E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 266111 | Next Difficulty In: 319 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 11 hours, 26 minutes, and 39 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 381202887.074 | Estimated Percent Change: 42.38266 358380;1382641219;nubbins`;deep down 358381;1382642053;ThickAsThieves;http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-10/24/bitcoin-exchange-collapse-glbse 358382;1382642054;ozbot;Founder reflects on the closure of Bitcoin stock exchange GLBSE (Wired UK) 358383;1382642092;jcpham;gtfo 358384;1382642158;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4550 @ 0.00082577 = 3.7573 BTC [-] 358385;1382642591;ThickAsThieves;http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-10-24/fortress-s-novogratz-says-bitcoin-will-be-worth-a-lot-.html 358386;1382642646;pankkake;who said everyone should own a bitcoin, or something? 358387;1382643317;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 60 @ 0.00486838 = 0.2921 BTC [-] {2} 358388;1382643422;nubbins`;i think it was bill gates 358389;1382643745;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00082311 = 4.6917 BTC [-] 358390;1382643866;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 158 @ 0.00224991 = 0.3555 BTC [-] {2} 358391;1382644232;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1004 @ 0.00500003 = 5.02 BTC [-] {2} 358392;1382644593;nubbins`;i've really been getting into the melvins lately 358393;1382644598;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5250 @ 0.00082523 = 4.3325 BTC [+] 358394;1382644644;pankkake;http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2013/10/gaming-kickstarters/ 358395;1382644645;ozbot;Over Budget, Behind Schedule: What's Up With Gaming's Biggest Kickstarters? | Game|Life | Wired.com 358396;1382644787;dexX7;ThickAsThieves: any comment as am board member? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg3404281#msg3404281 358397;1382644842;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.579 BTC [+] 358398;1382644854;nubbins`;hmm 358399;1382645025;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.58759684 = 5.876 BTC [+] {4} 358400;1382645086;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.6094 = 6.094 BTC [+] {3} 358401;1382645208;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.6259 = 1.2518 BTC [+] 358402;1382645330;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 176 @ 0.00537441 = 0.9459 BTC [+] {3} 358403;1382645331;KRS-;melvins? 358404;1382645337;nubbins`;yeah 358405;1382645391;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 39 @ 0.0054987 = 0.2144 BTC [+] {2} 358406;1382645392;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.62899999 = 1.887 BTC [+] 358407;1382645435;nubbins`;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LflAGUGxd9A 358408;1382645435;ozbot;Melvins Live at Amoeba - YouTube 358409;1382645561;ThickAsThieves;dexX7, all official statements about AM updates are made by Friedcat. I have no personal comment. 358410;1382645574;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.62899999 = 1.887 BTC [+] 358411;1382645635;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.63318888 = 5.6987 BTC [+] {6} 358412;1382645693;pankkake;to the moons! 358413;1382645696;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 187 @ 0.0051 = 0.9537 BTC [-] {2} 358414;1382645697;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 27 @ 0.67514814 = 18.229 BTC [+] {3} 358415;1382645698;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1450 @ 0.00082523 = 1.1966 BTC [+] 358416;1382645705;dexX7;oh well 358417;1382645757;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1083 @ 0.0051 = 5.5233 BTC [-] {3} 358418;1382645941;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.70999995 BTC [+] 358419;1382646184;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 54 @ 0.00549998 = 0.297 BTC [+] 358420;1382646245;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 64 @ 0.00549998 = 0.352 BTC [+] {3} 358421;1382646367;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 85 @ 0.0055694 = 0.4734 BTC [+] {3} 358422;1382646428;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 177 @ 0.00575592 = 1.0188 BTC [+] {5} 358423;1382646489;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 700 @ 0.00601493 = 4.2105 BTC [+] {9} 358424;1382646490;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 14 @ 0.739 = 10.346 BTC [+] 358425;1382646491;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 20 @ 0.00705549 = 0.1411 BTC [-] {4} 358426;1382646550;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 280 @ 0.0040244 = 1.1268 BTC [-] {4} 358427;1382646551;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 498 @ 0.00619999 = 3.0876 BTC [+] {4} 358428;1382646552;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.7489 BTC [+] 358429;1382646611;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 97 @ 0.00643814 = 0.6245 BTC [+] {3} 358430;1382646672;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 27 @ 0.79090364 = 21.3544 BTC [+] {8} 358431;1382646699;pankkake;:o 358432;1382647160;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 558 @ 0.00670355 = 3.7406 BTC [+] {11} 358433;1382647221;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 388 @ 0.00691 = 2.6811 BTC [+] {2} 358434;1382647526;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.795 = 7.155 BTC [+] 358435;1382647648;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00082757 = 7.8619 BTC [+] {2} 358436;1382647709;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.79999998 BTC [+] 358437;1382647832;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 60 @ 0.795 = 47.7 BTC [-] 358438;1382647878;bob____;i guess everybody liked the chinese video 358439;1382647892;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1605 @ 0.00702062 = 11.2681 BTC [+] {16} 358440;1382647953;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 146 @ 0.00747998 = 1.0921 BTC [+] 358441;1382648136;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 330 @ 0.00688484 = 2.272 BTC [-] {2} 358442;1382648502;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.0073999 = 0.148 BTC [+] 358443;1382648685;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.7944 = 2.3832 BTC [-] 358444;1382648726;pankkake;http://www.dailydot.com/technology/tor-freenet-i2p-anonymous-network/ 358445;1382648726;ozbot;The Daily Dot - Tor and the rise of anonymity networks 358446;1382648868;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 15 @ 0.79813332 = 11.972 BTC [+] {2} 358447;1382649234;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.795 = 1.59 BTC [-] 358448;1382649235;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 22 @ 0.0072 = 0.1584 BTC [-] 358449;1382649356;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 716 @ 0.00200735 = 1.4373 BTC [-] {6} 358450;1382649417;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 479 @ 0.00200001 = 0.958 BTC [-] 358451;1382649478;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 57 @ 0.00198847 = 0.1133 BTC [-] {4} 358452;1382649539;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 82 @ 0.00192081 = 0.1575 BTC [-] {2} 358453;1382649544;dexX7;http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-10/24/bitcoin-exchange-collapse-glbse 358454;1382649545;ozbot;Founder reflects on the closure of Bitcoin stock exchange GLBSE (Wired UK) 358455;1382649559;nubbins`;"reflects" 358456;1382649661;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 136 @ 0.00716187 = 0.974 BTC [-] {3} 358457;1382649722;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 24 @ 0.00728999 = 0.175 BTC [+] 358458;1382649844;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 36 @ 0.0075725 = 0.2726 BTC [+] {4} 358459;1382649905;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 124 @ 0.00770241 = 0.9551 BTC [+] {3} 358460;1382649966;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 45 @ 0.0078 = 0.351 BTC [+] 358461;1382651125;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1059 @ 0.0019213 = 2.0347 BTC [+] {6} 358462;1382651186;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.0077 = 0.385 BTC [-] 358463;1382651247;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 748 @ 0.00191455 = 1.4321 BTC [-] {3} 358464;1382651308;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 298 @ 0.00778117 = 2.3188 BTC [+] {4} 358465;1382651369;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 33 @ 0.00788757 = 0.2603 BTC [+] {3} 358466;1382651674;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 62 @ 0.79999998 = 49.6 BTC [+] {2} 358467;1382651735;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.8 BTC [+] 358468;1382651857;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.8 = 2.4 BTC [+] 358469;1382651979;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 140 @ 0.00788999 = 1.1046 BTC [+] {2} 358470;1382652101;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 27 @ 0.00799629 = 0.2159 BTC [+] {2} 358471;1382652102;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.8190069 BTC [+] 358472;1382652223;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 60 @ 0.008 = 0.48 BTC [+] 358473;1382652250;bob____;breaking news: chinese girl makes video about her cat and AM shoots up 60%! 358474;1382652345;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.85471624 = 5.983 BTC [+] {3} 358475;1382652354;nubbins`;heh 358476;1382652372;saulimus;hmm. how about: girl chops up cat and fries it? .... fried cat 358477;1382652393;saulimus;LOLLLL 358478;1382652502;pankkake;well, this show how much people are eager for news 358479;1382652711;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.869 = 4.345 BTC [+] 358480;1382652772;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 125 @ 0.00810799 = 1.0135 BTC [+] {6} 358481;1382652833;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.915 BTC [+] 358482;1382652834;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 488 @ 0.00854713 = 4.171 BTC [+] {6} 358483;1382652894;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 188 @ 0.00869 = 1.6337 BTC [+] {2} 358484;1382652895;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.915 = 7.32 BTC [+] {2} 358485;1382652955;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 312 @ 0.00869 = 2.7113 BTC [+] {5} 358486;1382652956;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.95 = 1.9 BTC [+] 358487;1382652970;davout;https://bitcoinfoundation.org/blog/?p=290 358488;1382653004;the20year;the SEC's new crowdfunding rules could be quite interesting for exchanges and US customers 358489;1382653016;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.96799999 = 8.712 BTC [+] {2} 358490;1382653022;skinnkavaj;WTF LTC 358491;1382653024;skinnkavaj;Stop moving so fast 358492;1382653070;dexX7;no no 358493;1382653072;dexX7;that's good 358494;1382653072;dexX7;hehe 358495;1382653077;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 29 @ 0.00879 = 0.2549 BTC [+] 358496;1382653443;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.00114799 = 0.1148 BTC [+] 358497;1382653444;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3957 @ 0.0008281 = 3.2768 BTC [+] {2} 358498;1382653449;nubbins`;https://blockchain.info/tx/011c3ab10f8fcf815fe19ad1f44be47da372654c861a5b338dcb35aa4d094573 358499;1382653450;ozbot;Bitcoin Transaction 011c3ab10f8fcf815fe19ad1f44be47da372654c861a5b338dcb35aa4d094573 358500;1382653565;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 22 @ 0.008789 = 0.1934 BTC [-] 358501;1382653608;pankkake;I don't understand what is happening to that 50 BTC 358502;1382653670;pankkake;well it just looks like they're making small transactactions to… who knows 358503;1382653688;pankkake;;;market sell 36000 358504;1382653690;gribble;A market order to sell 36000 bitcoins right now would net 6002361.4522 USD and would take the last price down to 140.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 166.7323 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0021 seconds 358505;1382653816;kakobrekla;would be interesting if they would dump it at once 358506;1382653931;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 146 @ 0.00870304 = 1.2706 BTC [-] {2} 358507;1382654028;nubbins`;pankkake: i think that's the point 358508;1382654079;nubbins`;that's a common thing to see with huge balances, i'm more surprised the other 35k BTC are sitting still 358509;1382654358;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13626 @ 0.00082857 = 11.2901 BTC [+] {3} 358510;1382654419;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.95 BTC [-] 358511;1382654602;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.95 = 3.8 BTC [-] 358512;1382654663;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.965 BTC [+] 358513;1382654724;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.95 = 4.75 BTC [-] {2} 358514;1382654855;nubbins`;i wonder how many people are rebuying coins at a loss to scoop up AM shares 358515;1382654885;BigBitz;why would anyone want to scoop them up currently? 358516;1382654907;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.008788 = 0.4394 BTC [-] 358517;1382655014;Vp7771;positive rumor 358518;1382655016;Vp7771;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.14540 358519;1382655017;ozbot;ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It 358520;1382655043;Vp7771;comment from realdos 358521;1382655160;BigBitz;hmm. 358522;1382655162;BigBitz;interesting. 358523;1382655192;dexX7;this is her thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=252469.0 358524;1382655206;dexX7;it has several pages, must be legit 358525;1382655241;mircea_popescu;o look, azn ppl 358526;1382655282;Vp7771;and they look happy 358527;1382655286;Vp7771;can only mean one thing 358528;1382655294;BigBitz;PROFIT? 358529;1382655301;Vp7771;for sure 358530;1382655306;Kleeck_;My summary of the thread: FAT CHINESE NERDS. Thank you for reading. 358531;1382655320;mircea_popescu;what's am by now, 1% of nethash ? under that ? 358532;1382655334;Kleeck_;Prob. 358533;1382655336;Kleeck_;Under. 358534;1382655353;mircea_popescu;well it's good that they're keeping to their promise not to 50% the network. 358535;1382655483;Kleeck_;ROFL 358536;1382655484;Kleeck_;yeah. 358537;1382655487;Kleeck_;That was a close one! 358538;1382655559;mircea_popescu;in fairness for about three weeks it was. 358539;1382655583;mircea_popescu;long long ago on a planet far far away, known only as "this spring" 358540;1382655645;dexX7;selling/franchising mining hardware is probably more profitable than deploying the miners 358541;1382655718;mircea_popescu;selling coffee brewed from miner waste heat is probably more profitable than deploying the miners too. 358542;1382655819;Vp7771;dexX7 what site is this from: 358543;1382655820;Vp7771;http://i.imgur.com/L4c3IeC.png 358544;1382655829;Vp7771;i think i used to use it but can't find it again 358545;1382655837;dexX7;www.coinflow.co 358546;1382655859;Vp7771;oh that's it. thanks man 358547;1382655863;dexX7;np 358548;1382655980;nubbins`;you could probably roast coffee with some of those gpu rigs 358549;1382656488;mircea_popescu;http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/1p3ti1/you_are_bad_at_entropy/ << stanislav takes over reddit 358550;1382656489;ozbot;You are Bad at Entropy. : programming 358551;1382656554;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10500 @ 0.00082945 = 8.7092 BTC [+] 358552;1382656676;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.95 BTC [-] 358553;1382656737;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.95 = 2.85 BTC [-] {2} 358554;1382656798;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 16 @ 0.9553125 = 15.285 BTC [+] {3} 358555;1382656920;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 18 @ 0.0085 = 0.153 BTC [+] {2} 358556;1382657042;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.96137499 = 7.691 BTC [+] {2} 358557;1382657103;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.969 BTC [+] 358558;1382657164;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.9586 = 4.793 BTC [-] {2} 358559;1382657774;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 230 @ 0.00843478 = 1.94 BTC [-] {2} 358560;1382658208;dub;http://www.hxtop.com/html/bt03/201310242750.html 358561;1382658236;dub;looks suspiciously like the floor of the 'datacenter' is made of dirt 358562;1382658372;nubbins`;rough concrete maybe 358563;1382658400;jurov;"baked cat mine field trips" google translate makes my day 358564;1382658420;nubbins`;hmm 358565;1382658445;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.0084999 = 0.2125 BTC [+] 358566;1382658446;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.9687998 = 4.844 BTC [+] {3} 358567;1382658447;nubbins`;maybe i can get another "grilled cat identity" t-shirt group buy on the go 358568;1382658506;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 13 @ 0.0084999 = 0.1105 BTC [+] 358569;1382658933;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 0.07 = 0.35 BTC [-] 358570;1382659360;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.96899999 BTC [+] 358571;1382659883;nubbins`;fuck it, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=317651.0 358572;1382660101;dexX7;from the labcoin chan: <yesminister> let's do sam noi tshirts! 358573;1382660157;nubbins`;haha 358574;1382660275;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 18350 @ 0.00015 = 2.7525 BTC [-] {4} 358575;1382660336;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.96831999 = 4.8416 BTC [-] {3} 358576;1382660836;pankkake;hmm 358577;1382660841;pankkake;but I only want black :/ 358578;1382661017;dub;why the range of sizes? 358579;1382661030;dub;clearly anyone wearign that is goign to be pushign 500lb 358580;1382661069;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.0078 = 0.195 BTC [-] 358581;1382661142;nubbins`;pankkake: i do have a lot of black shirts 358582;1382661156;nubbins`;dub: there's a reason why I have no XXL left 358583;1382661190;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 85 @ 0.00728235 = 0.619 BTC [-] {3} 358584;1382661373;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.0078 = 0.156 BTC [-] 358585;1382661424;IneedBRAINS;have you guys tried the new dice game? really nice UI ~ https://ice-dice.com/en?i=10487 358586;1382661434;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.95 = 2.85 BTC [-] 358587;1382661678;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.95 = 6.65 BTC [-] 358588;1382661739;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0078 = 0.78 BTC [-] 358589;1382661800;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.96884 = 4.8442 BTC [+] {4} 358590;1382661883;skinnkavaj;588 BTC buy order on BTC/LTC Smash it! We are going to the moon over here! 358591;1382661906;nubbins`;what the fuck is up with you people and the moon 358592;1382661922;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 102 @ 0.00839215 = 0.856 BTC [+] {2} 358593;1382662192;mircea_popescu;^ 358594;1382662227;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.9689 BTC [+] 358595;1382662655;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.96899333 = 2.907 BTC [+] {2} 358596;1382663081;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 57 @ 0.0078 = 0.4446 BTC [-] {2} 358597;1382663127;dub;I always assumed it was a favorite catch call of one of those weird US TV finance shows where a guy screams at the camera 358598;1382663143;dub;or from bruce wagners show 358599;1382664423;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 172 @ 0.0078 = 1.3416 BTC [-] 358600;1382664484;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3050 @ 0.00083025 = 2.5323 BTC [+] {2} 358601;1382665460;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 96 @ 0.00846 = 0.8122 BTC [+] 358602;1382666273;mike_c;!jd 358603;1382666273;assbot;Just-Dice stat: 5711 BTC profit, 59.0k BTC invested, 200.51 mio bets, 4.26 mio BTC wagered 358604;1382666583;mircea_popescu;200mn ? 358605;1382666589;mircea_popescu;o nm. 4.2mn 358606;1382666741;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00845 = 0.4225 BTC [-] 358607;1382666924;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.96899997 = 1.938 BTC [+] {2} 358608;1382668083;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00082763 = 5.2141 BTC [-] 358609;1382668449;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.89000001 = 1.78 BTC [-] {2} 358610;1382668571;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 14 @ 0.00820285 = 0.1148 BTC [-] {2} 358611;1382668937;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 750 @ 0.00845266 = 6.3395 BTC [+] {3} 358612;1382668998;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 215 @ 0.0084854 = 1.8244 BTC [+] {4} 358613;1382669059;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 405 @ 0.00859987 = 3.4829 BTC [+] {2} 358614;1382669120;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.88000001 = 1.76 BTC [-] 358615;1382670158;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.955 BTC [+] 358616;1382670218;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 15 @ 0.00876 = 0.1314 BTC [+] 358617;1382670279;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.95 = 1.9 BTC [-] 358618;1382670340;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.00877 = 1.754 BTC [+] {2} 358619;1382670341;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.95 = 1.9 BTC [-] 358620;1382670462;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 91 @ 0.00879087 = 0.8 BTC [+] {3} 358621;1382670523;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 14 @ 0.008811 = 0.1234 BTC [+] 358622;1382670584;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 95 @ 0.00889994 = 0.8455 BTC [+] {2} 358623;1382670948;ChaangNoi;zup ya pervz ya 358624;1382670964;ChaangNoi;so AM has a jump, why? 358625;1382671066;KRS1;hey ChaangNoi 358626;1382671076;ChaangNoi;hi 358627;1382671133;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 16 @ 0.0089 = 0.1424 BTC [+] 358628;1382671143;dexX7;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg3404281#msg3404281 + https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg3406603#msg3406603 358629;1382671145;ozbot;ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It 358630;1382671255;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 106 @ 0.0089 = 0.9434 BTC [+] 358631;1382671267;KRS1;any chance the chinese government will sieze everyhing chinese BTC and the difficulty will drop? 358632;1382671270;dexX7;lol 358633;1382671276;dexX7;no ;) 358634;1382671277;mircea_popescu;nope. 358635;1382671306;mircea_popescu;if indeed he delivers something like 500th in two weeks am is going back to a decent 10-15% then 358636;1382671311;KRS1;oh yeah, forgot..they prefer violating human rights. 358637;1382671338;mircea_popescu;cheap mining isn't a human right. 358638;1382671356;KRS1;thus the mining shall continue 358639;1382671418;dexX7;a redditor posted this http://blog.standardcrypto.com/2013/09/17/what-does-one-exahash-look-like/ 358640;1382671418;ChaangNoi;well i still hold some AM. this last wednesdays divs were shockingly low 358641;1382671560;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.91 = 3.64 BTC [-] 358642;1382671658;asciilifeform;dexX7: some people have no imagionation: 358643;1382671666;asciilifeform;an 'exahash' looks rather different 358644;1382671682;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 200 @ 0.00114799 = 0.2296 BTC [+] 358645;1382671696;asciilifeform;say 100,000,000 consumer webcams with a little strange mixed into the network asic. 358646;1382671714;asciilifeform;happily unwrapped on christmas day and plugged in by unsuspecting (and satisfied) people. 358647;1382671742;dexX7;hehe ;) 358648;1382671743;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.88750056 = 1.775 BTC [-] {2} 358649;1382671748;asciilifeform;*imagination 358650;1382671782;asciilifeform;it could also look like a 1m by 1m cube of gallium arsenide optical logic, bathed in liquid He 358651;1382671794;asciilifeform;but the webcams are cheaper. 358652;1382671869;asciilifeform;it could also look like a beefy off-the-shelf intel box running a successful version of 'sat-coin.' 358653;1382671878;asciilifeform;(http://jheusser.github.io/2013/02/03/satcoin.html) 358654;1382671922;nubbins`;"5. FC didn't sell his AM stocks at the peak of its price. When asked in the interview why he didn't cash out, he responded that if he sold out the shares, people who bought them would make him work for them. He would like to only work for himself." 358655;1382671965;nubbins`;what a quote 358656;1382671978;dexX7;hehe yeah, i wonder when bitcoin or bitcoin mining will act as innovation driver 358657;1382671987;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 142 @ 0.00801143 = 1.1376 BTC [-] {5} 358658;1382672049;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 26 @ 0.00801003 = 0.2083 BTC [-] {2} 358659;1382672108;mircea_popescu;"The Hoover Dam produces 2000 MW" 358660;1382672119;mircea_popescu;people really don't understand what dams are or how they work, do they 358661;1382672225;dub;that guy is completely retarded 358662;1382672292;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 167 @ 0.00114799 = 0.1917 BTC [+] 358663;1382672584;ChaangNoi;i think he means the hoover dam as in the complex, if you did not know they produce hydro electric powere there. saw it myself 2 weeks ago. 358664;1382672780;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 112 @ 0.0088891 = 0.9956 BTC [+] {3} 358665;1382672902;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 66 @ 0.00888899 = 0.5867 BTC [-] 358666;1382672937;dub;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXmqauitBkM 358667;1382672937;ozbot;Outkast - SpottieOttieDopaliscious - YouTube 358668;1382673024;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.94986666 = 2.8496 BTC [+] {2} 358669;1382673085;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 34 @ 0.00888998 = 0.3023 BTC [+] 358670;1382673146;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00082763 = 5.0485 BTC [-] 358671;1382673170;KRS1;good song 358672;1382673601;nubbins`;huh, bit of a price cut on those casascius silver/gold coins 358673;1382673613;nubbins`;http://imageshack.us/a/img850/1447/eqoq.jpg 358674;1382673615;nubbins`;they look slick 358675;1382673817;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 25 @ 0.90444827 = 22.6112 BTC [-] {5} 358676;1382673878;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 14 @ 0.89335714 = 12.507 BTC [-] {4} 358677;1382674054;ChaangNoi;i ordered a roll 358678;1382674090;ChaangNoi;i like how they are a bit different from my older gold B silver casa coins 358679;1382674178;ChaangNoi;anyone happen to have a first day funded brass 1 btc casas coin? 358680;1382674372;nubbins`;i wish 358681;1382674387;nubbins`;have you opened your roll of special 0.5 silvers yet? ;) 358682;1382674425;nubbins`;oh! i was also wondering if your iceberg & whale coins showed up after 358683;1382674541;ChaangNoi;i did get the whale coins, i was too late or something for the icebergs 358684;1382674566;ChaangNoi;i got my 1 silvers, the .5 silver and the .1 silver, now just waiting for the gold silvers but they have been shipped 358685;1382674575;ChaangNoi;too many damn rolls and i ahve not opened any of them 358686;1382674579;nubbins`;heh 358687;1382674658;nubbins`;the gold/silver ones are something like 6 BTC cheaper per roll 358688;1382674732;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 32 @ 0.00888998 = 0.2845 BTC [+] 358689;1382674738;ChaangNoi;well,they are the only ones for sale now 358690;1382674756;ChaangNoi;i think he only has 700 of the gold ones 358691;1382674767;ChaangNoi;not sure on the others 358692;1382674774;ChaangNoi;iv lost track, too busy and i just keep buying 358693;1382674793;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 15 @ 0.00888998 = 0.1333 BTC [+] 358694;1382675525;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 25 @ 0.95446627 = 23.8617 BTC [+] {8} 358695;1382675531;nubbins`;yeah, 700 358696;1382675584;nubbins`;sorry, i'd be talking to you about those certs here but it requires a lot of "hmm"ing and scribbling of numbers 358697;1382675769;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.96999 = 5.8199 BTC [+] 358698;1382675770;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 67 @ 0.00840001 = 0.5628 BTC [-] 358699;1382675830;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 44 @ 0.00823636 = 0.3624 BTC [-] {2} 358700;1382676318;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1400 @ 0.00082755 = 1.1586 BTC [-] {2} 358701;1382676709;nubbins`;time for sleep 358702;1382677239;ChaangNoi;np 358703;1382677246;ChaangNoi;i was not even here lol 358704;1382677782;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 37 @ 0.00825001 = 0.3053 BTC [-] 358705;1382679185;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 130 @ 0.0086 = 1.118 BTC [+] 358706;1382679246;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 34 @ 0.00864102 = 0.2938 BTC [+] {2} 358707;1382679307;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 13 @ 0.00888997 = 0.1156 BTC [+] 358708;1382679308;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.95999999 = 2.88 BTC [-] 358709;1382679368;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 215 @ 0.00114799 = 0.2468 BTC [+] 358710;1382679369;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 95 @ 0.00888997 = 0.8445 BTC [+] {2} 358711;1382679551;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00888997 = 0.889 BTC [+] {2} 358712;1382679917;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0087 = 0.87 BTC [-] 358713;1382679978;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.95999999 BTC [-] 358714;1382680161;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 151 @ 0.00862515 = 1.3024 BTC [-] {2} 358715;1382680222;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 115 @ 0.00828104 = 0.9523 BTC [-] {3} 358716;1382680283;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 23 @ 0.00869997 = 0.2001 BTC [+] 358717;1382680527;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.95999999 BTC [-] 358718;1382680893;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.95999999 = 1.92 BTC [-] 358719;1382681015;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00869998 = 0.87 BTC [+] 358720;1382681076;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.95999999 = 1.92 BTC [-] 358721;1382681320;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 9 @ 0.0512 = 0.4608 BTC [-] {2} 358722;1382681442;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3950 @ 0.00082723 = 3.2676 BTC [-] {2} 358723;1382682357;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.95 = 2.85 BTC [-] 358724;1382682418;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.92109166 = 11.0531 BTC [-] {2} 358725;1382683638;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 40 @ 0.87185599 = 34.8742 BTC [-] {11} 358726;1382683943;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1110 @ 0.00802244 = 8.9049 BTC [-] {12} 358727;1382683944;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.89 BTC [+] 358728;1382684004;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.86 BTC [-] 358729;1382684065;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 156 @ 0.008 = 1.248 BTC [-] {3} 358730;1382684309;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.8515 = 1.703 BTC [-] {2} 358731;1382684370;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 15 @ 0.85013333 = 12.752 BTC [-] {2} 358732;1382684431;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.85 = 5.95 BTC [-] 358733;1382685529;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00795 = 0.795 BTC [-] 358734;1382685773;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 561 @ 0.00791742 = 4.4417 BTC [-] {3} 358735;1382685834;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.007916 = 0.7916 BTC [-] 358736;1382686200;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.007916 = 0.7916 BTC [-] 358737;1382686322;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 44 @ 0.007916 = 0.3483 BTC [-] 358738;1382686444;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 300 @ 0.007916 = 2.3748 BTC [-] 358739;1382686688;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.84899999 = 1.698 BTC [-] 358740;1382686749;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 19 @ 0.84899999 = 16.131 BTC [-] {2} 358741;1382686810;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1000 @ 0.00114799 = 1.148 BTC [+] 358742;1382686811;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.84999999 = 1.7 BTC [+] 358743;1382686932;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.80299999 = 5.621 BTC [-] {5} 358744;1382686993;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.8075 = 4.845 BTC [+] {6} 358745;1382686994;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2500 @ 0.00015725 = 0.3931 BTC [+] 358746;1382687054;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 18 @ 0.00799 = 0.1438 BTC [+] 358747;1382687420;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.00114799 = 0.1148 BTC [+] 358748;1382687847;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 117 @ 0.00114799 = 0.1343 BTC [+] {2} 358749;1382688148;b0n1;someone here trading giftcards in larger amounts? 358750;1382688579;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 35 @ 0.00799 = 0.2797 BTC [+] 358751;1382688604;afqe212;뭐하니 얘들아 358752;1382688701;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.81000001 = 1.62 BTC [+] 358753;1382688762;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.81000001 = 1.62 BTC [+] 358754;1382689921;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.86 = 1.72 BTC [+] 358755;1382690531;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.865 = 1.73 BTC [+] 358756;1382690653;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 71 @ 0.00799 = 0.5673 BTC [+] 358757;1382691019;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10000 @ 0.00013276 = 1.3276 BTC [-] {3} 358758;1382691466;pankkake;http://coinmd.org/ 358759;1382691467;ozbot;CoinMD - medical consultations and advice for Bitcoin 358760;1382691552;dub;oh dear 358761;1382691568;dub;obitgyn? 358762;1382692666;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.84 = 1.68 BTC [-] 358763;1382693032;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.007915 = 0.7915 BTC [-] 358764;1382693520;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00781011 = 0.3905 BTC [-] {3} 358765;1382694984;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00082909 = 3.4822 BTC [+] {2} 358766;1382696082;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.87600998 = 1.752 BTC [+] {2} 358767;1382696204;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 565 @ 0.00114799 = 0.6486 BTC [+] 358768;1382697729;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 48 @ 0.00787 = 0.3778 BTC [-] 358769;1382697973;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 51 @ 0.00787 = 0.4014 BTC [-] 358770;1382698400;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 22 @ 0.00787 = 0.1731 BTC [-] 358771;1382698472;kakobrekla;anyone heard of peercover? 358772;1382698705;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.00209361 = 1.0468 BTC [-] {4} 358773;1382698706;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0078194 = 0.7819 BTC [-] {2} 358774;1382698766;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.87589999 = 1.7518 BTC [-] 358775;1382698827;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 211 @ 0.0020998 = 0.4431 BTC [+] {3} 358776;1382698888;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 13 @ 0.87590845 = 11.3868 BTC [+] {3} 358777;1382699010;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 358 @ 0.00798997 = 2.8604 BTC [+] {2} 358778;1382699194;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 442 @ 0.00859483 = 3.7989 BTC [+] {3} 358779;1382699437;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.889999 BTC [+] 358780;1382699498;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 0.0746 = 0.373 BTC [+] 358781;1382699599;sbobitcoin;Finally, a Sportsbook agent of renowed market leader like SBOBET, IBCBET and Pinnacle. Newly launched site, SBObitcoin.com, is now accepting new members from around the world, for sports enthusiasts and gamers alike. Join Now! 358782;1382699742;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 46 @ 0.00859998 = 0.3956 BTC [+] 358783;1382699869;KRS1;yawn 358784;1382700291;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 37 @ 0.00805025 = 0.2979 BTC [-] 358785;1382700413;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00083038 = 5.2314 BTC [+] 358786;1382700475;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 90 @ 0.0011303 = 0.1017 BTC [-] 358787;1382700540;kakobrekla;this been discussed? https://peercover.com 358788;1382700664;kleeck;Interesting. 358789;1382700677;mircea_popescu;blank page. 358790;1382700679;mircea_popescu;lots of js ? 358791;1382700699;kakobrekla;i think this wants to be btcjam for ripple 358792;1382700705;kakobrekla;=? 358793;1382700711;kakobrekla;or am i missing something 358794;1382700720;kakobrekla;doesnt work in O. 358795;1382700795;mircea_popescu;btcjam for ripple. the internet is getting meta. 358796;1382700901;kakobrekla;well without registering i dunno, i see 'facebook, linkedin and dwolla' also 'ripple' 358797;1382700914;kakobrekla;and 'trust' 358798;1382700934;kakobrekla;how to put these together, i dunno. 358799;1382701202;kakobrekla;no wait this is some insurance thing? 358800;1382701491;kleeck;"Peercover is the first distributed peer coverage service by the people for the people. The team at Peercover believes in economic self sustainability, pragmatism, simplicity, and above all security. Globally positioned, Peercover works to protect people of all creeds and credos. Get covered with people you trust, get covered with Peercover." 358801;1382701498;mircea_popescu;ahahaha 358802;1382701504;mircea_popescu;best in class. 358803;1382701522;mircea_popescu;so usagi lives, "decentralised". 358804;1382701633;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00082819 = 3.3128 BTC [-] 358805;1382701755;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.889999 BTC [+] 358806;1382702289;kakobrekla;can someone send a pm on retardtalk for me 358807;1382702426;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69348300 BTC to 1`386`966 shares, 50 satoshi per share 358808;1382702853;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 546 @ 0.00781137 = 4.265 BTC [-] {3} 358809;1382702914;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.889999 = 3.56 BTC [+] 358810;1382703036;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 101 @ 0.00189001 = 0.1909 BTC [-] 358811;1382703097;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.89 BTC [+] 358812;1382703354;mircea_popescu;write a script, make 500k accounts, age them and take over. 358813;1382703372;mircea_popescu;bitcointalk being replaced with markov chain generated noise might be an improvement. 358814;1382703373;kakobrekla;10 years ago id do that. 358815;1382703585;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 58 @ 0.00799999 = 0.464 BTC [+] 358816;1382703646;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 42 @ 0.0079 = 0.3318 BTC [-] 358817;1382703686;skinnkavaj;So LTC up again 358818;1382703692;skinnkavaj;Nice hedge against a falling BTC price 358819;1382703707;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 58 @ 0.00789999 = 0.4582 BTC [-] 358820;1382703745;mircea_popescu;what's ltc ? 358821;1382703768;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1150 @ 0.00789855 = 9.0833 BTC [-] {6} 358822;1382703829;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 55 @ 0.00818181 = 0.45 BTC [+] {2} 358823;1382704654;kakobrekla;large tits collider 358824;1382704766;pankkake;now that's something I want to own 358825;1382704838;b0n1;someone interested here for buying larger amounts in gift cards for bitcoins cheaper than their actual value? 358826;1382707428;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200 @ 0.00082935 = 0.1659 BTC [+] 358827;1382707550;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.898 BTC [+] 358828;1382707672;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.898 = 8.082 BTC [+] 358829;1382707733;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.89999999 = 5.4 BTC [+] 358830;1382707917;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.89999999 BTC [+] 358831;1382707977;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 192 @ 0.00221998 = 0.4262 BTC [+] 358832;1382708038;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 15 @ 0.00825 = 0.1238 BTC [-] 358833;1382708099;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 110 @ 0.00829954 = 0.9129 BTC [+] {2} 358834;1382708770;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1327 @ 0.00775244 = 10.2875 BTC [-] {9} 358835;1382708831;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 24 @ 0.75931249 = 18.2235 BTC [-] {8} 358836;1382709014;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 113 @ 0.00221997 = 0.2509 BTC [-] 358837;1382709136;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 500 @ 0.0011303 = 0.5652 BTC [-] 358838;1382709319;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 592 @ 0.00203333 = 1.2037 BTC [-] {2} 358839;1382709380;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 479 @ 0.00202 = 0.9676 BTC [-] {3} 358840;1382709441;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 170 @ 0.00201999 = 0.3434 BTC [-] 358841;1382709502;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.79187 = 2.3756 BTC [+] {3} 358842;1382709503;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 410 @ 0.00221216 = 0.907 BTC [+] {3} 358843;1382709682;kakobrekla;http://bitcoinmoney.com/post/28048708075/brazil-bitcoin-securities 358844;1382709684;ozbot;Bitcoin Money 358845;1382709709;kakobrekla;Yesterday the acting president of CVM, the securities regulator for Brazil, signed a decision ordering the administrator of Grupo de Investimento Bitcoin to suspend what the regulator describes as an investment fund. 358846;1382709868;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00221997 = 0.222 BTC [+] 358847;1382709929;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.00221998 = 2.22 BTC [+] {3} 358848;1382710006;kakobrekla;CVM recognizing btc as currency cause borred. 358849;1382710067;nubbins`;hi 358850;1382710114;kakobrekla;hm that was ike in 2012 358851;1382710121;kakobrekla;where dafuck do you live kako 358852;1382710264;mircea_popescu;lol 358853;1382710268;mircea_popescu;i wasn't going to say anything. 358854;1382710451;nubbins`;<kakobrekla> doesnt work in O. 358855;1382710457;nubbins`;opera?! 358856;1382710467;nubbins`;you're literally the second person i've ever met who uses it 358857;1382710477;nubbins`;and i spent 5 years working as a web dev 358858;1382710540;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 117 @ 0.00789997 = 0.9243 BTC [+] {3} 358859;1382710543;kakobrekla;nubbins` theres like 5 people on this chan using it 358860;1382710632;nubbins`;:0 358861;1382710654;nubbins`;imagine 358862;1382710661;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 66 @ 0.00221997 = 0.1465 BTC [-] 358863;1382710681;nubbins`;anyway, uh. BITCOIN DOWN! should i put all my money in a blender and turn it on? 358864;1382710722;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 392 @ 0.00214817 = 0.8421 BTC [-] {2} 358865;1382710806;pankkake;I put it all in Chinacoin 358866;1382710844;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 210 @ 0.0021915 = 0.4602 BTC [+] {2} 358867;1382710891;nubbins`;you mean you didn't follow the advice from that guy who's always bleating about ltc? 358868;1382710929;pankkake;some crazy movements though, if somehow you can predict them 358869;1382710960;mircea_popescu;;;ticker 358870;1382710960;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 181.69053, Best ask: 181.70000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00947, Last trade: 181.69053, 24 hour volume: 33649.20066128, 24 hour low: 181.14902, 24 hour high: 217.90003, 24 hour vwap: 197.78800 358871;1382710969;mircea_popescu;nubbins` yeah. make it a 3d model. 358872;1382711001;pankkake;if you use opera you hate freedom btw 358873;1382711012;nubbins`;^ ? 358874;1382711025;pankkake;closed source 358875;1382711029;nubbins`;ah 358876;1382711032;nubbins`;lame 358877;1382711061;nubbins`;you guys ever try the W3C's browser, Amaya? 358878;1382711062;kakobrekla;did you go through the source of your browser ? 358879;1382711087;pankkake;I tried it a few years ago, can't say it was practical to use 358880;1382711095;kakobrekla;well then 358881;1382711099;kakobrekla;what good does it do you 358882;1382711100;nubbins`;kakobrekla: just because i don't vote doesn't mean i don't want the right! ;) 358883;1382711146;kakobrekla;its all an illusion 358884;1382711182;pankkake;I'd give up that right for 1 LTC. anyway I didn't read the whole linux kernel source either 358885;1382711182;pankkake;nor bitcoin's 358886;1382711207;kakobrekla;so you still trust X to do the job for you 358887;1382711225;pankkake;I trust many people in the present and future 358888;1382711260;kakobrekla;yes elephants have 4 legs usually 358889;1382711338;pankkake;by that I mean many people are currently doing it and will do it. I trust the "enough eyeballs" 358890;1382711352;nubbins`;potential logical fallacy 358891;1382711392;kakobrekla;many people also code opera 358892;1382711436;pankkake;not that many, and they are part of the same team 358893;1382711445;pankkake;perhaps they're all reptilians 358894;1382711561;nubbins`;anyway, pankkake was making an argument for free software, not against the morals of the opera dev team 358895;1382711625;pankkake;true, I even forgot. kakobrekla you sneaky snail 358896;1382711632;kakobrekla;yes sure, but that doesnt change much, just switching who you trust to do your check for you 358897;1382711637;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 82 @ 0.00222 = 0.182 BTC [+] 358898;1382711638;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2344 @ 0.00082605 = 1.9363 BTC [-] 358899;1382711698;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1156 @ 0.00082684 = 0.9558 BTC [+] 358900;1382711699;kakobrekla;since luke is doing some patches im more worried for bitcoind than opera. 358901;1382711711;nubbins`;lel 358902;1382711759;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 193 @ 0.00223994 = 0.4323 BTC [+] 358903;1382711820;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2984 @ 0.00013 = 0.3879 BTC [+] 358904;1382711909;nubbins`;brb, going to pick up a vacuum table! 358905;1382711914;VanCleef;i get the feeling Father Peter use to touch him back in his alterboy days 358906;1382712003;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1242 @ 0.00224451 = 2.7877 BTC [+] {4} 358907;1382712082;KRS-;That table must suck. 358908;1382712166;mircea_popescu;the problem with free software is that unless there's an omnipotent dictator a la torvalds, 358909;1382712170;mircea_popescu;the project goes to shirt 358910;1382712254;jurov;dunno.. firefox seems to go fine 358911;1382712374;asciilifeform;jurov: a very peculiar definition of 'going fine.' 358912;1382712406;jurov;can you elaborate? 358913;1382712613;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 288 @ 0.0020955 = 0.6035 BTC [-] {2} 358914;1382712628;asciilifeform;jurov: firefox is a turd. 358915;1382712791;jurov;i see a breakage about equally often after kernel upgrade and after ff upgrade...don't see any huge difference 358916;1382713012;nubbins`;KRS-: i see what you did there ;p 358917;1382713345;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.80000001 = 1.6 BTC [+] 358918;1382713429;nubbins`;doing a zine workshop tonight with 18 youths, should be nice and tangly 358919;1382713894;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.88958799 BTC [+] 358920;1382714016;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.88958799 = 1.7792 BTC [+] {2} 358921;1382714017;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 97 @ 0.0011303 = 0.1096 BTC [-] 358922;1382714077;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 69 @ 0.00789999 = 0.5451 BTC [+] {2} 358923;1382714079;nubbins`;mircea_popescu: in fact, french fries were invented in belgium 358924;1382714142;nubbins`;(I can recall a French embassy stating this fact when asked for their opinion on "freedom fries") 358925;1382714167;mircea_popescu;the point is contentious. 358926;1382714172;mircea_popescu;belgium is france anyway :D 358927;1382714285;nubbins`;next you'll be saying canada is america! 358928;1382714295;mircea_popescu;lol 358929;1382714297;nubbins`;wait, that's not funny 358930;1382714300;nubbins`;;) 358931;1382714324;mike_c;what's zine? http://zine.pocoo.org/ ? 358932;1382714355;nubbins`;mike_c: https://www.google.ca/search?q=zine&tbm=isch 358933;1382714378;mike_c;ah 358934;1382714394;mike_c;much cooler 358935;1382714397;nubbins`;nod 358936;1382714545;nubbins`;the great thing about self-publishing is that you can be as obscene as you want, and nobody cares 358937;1382714629;mircea_popescu;sure htey do. 358938;1382714703;nubbins`;actually, maybe "nobody will stop you" is closer to the truth 358939;1382714782;nubbins`;although, the newspaper did a story on us a while back, and i sent them over some images to accompany the article. they published a full-page image of a creature with a dick and balls for a nose. 358940;1382714786;pankkake;French people agree that fries are a Belgium thing 358941;1382714790;nubbins`;so, y'know, life's full of surprises 358942;1382714856;pankkake;though true Belgian fries are quite something compared to common fries 358943;1382714870;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 9704 @ 0.0001492 = 1.4478 BTC [+] {3} 358944;1382714931;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3534 @ 0.00015 = 0.5301 BTC [+] 358945;1382714933;nubbins`;http://imgur.com/4wvyLAz 358946;1382714933;ozbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 358947;1382714937;nubbins`;can't be bothered to rotate it 358948;1382715402;nubbins`;;;ticker 358949;1382715402;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 184.00000, Best ask: 184.00001, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 183.00000, 24 hour volume: 36305.25866717, 24 hour low: 176.60399, 24 hour high: 215.99985, 24 hour vwap: 194.28240 358950;1382715444;nubbins`;;;ticker --market all 358951;1382715452;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD last: 182.50001, vol: 36316.43058917 | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 175.04, vol: 33227.73049279 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 164.01, vol: 31857.02474 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 177.49, vol: 10766.02396314 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 170.74, vol: 1075.318944 | Volume-weighted last average: 174.521562617 358952;1382715481;nubbins`;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-10-2013#357537 358953;1382715484;ozbot;#bitcoin-assets log 358954;1382715541;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.800149 = 4.8009 BTC [-] {3} 358955;1382715679;mike_c;mpex options expired 16 hours ago, yes? do the 'T' and 'N' options roll over after the mpoe monthly statement is issued? 358956;1382715846;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.8 = 8.8 BTC [-] {2} 358957;1382715873;KRS-;no 358958;1382715959;mike_c;ok.. they roll over in random()*36 hours? 358959;1382716620;nubbins`;http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/10/24/after-seven-years-in-jail-canadas-man-with-no-name-may-be-ready-to-reveal-true-identity-and-regain-freedom/ 358960;1382716622;ozbot;After seven years in jail, Canada’s ‘Man With No Name’ may be ready to reveal true identity 358961;1382717615;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 6 @ 0.0745 = 0.447 BTC [-] 358962;1382717860;deadweasel;mike_c: N's turn into T's, T's are expired. 358963;1382718286;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.0075091 = 0.3755 BTC [-] {2} 358964;1382718347;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.007509 = 0.3755 BTC [-] 358965;1382718421;mircea_popescu;mike_c not in random, at midnight gmt 358966;1382718442;mircea_popescu;(bout 7 hours or so) 358967;1382718517;mike_c;oh, i thought expiration was midnight Thursday before the last friday. not sure where i read that. thanks. 358968;1382719262;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00082471 = 3.2988 BTC [-] 358969;1382719933;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 750 @ 0.00082471 = 0.6185 BTC [-] 358970;1382721092;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.84 BTC [+] 358971;1382721153;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 15 @ 0.00788994 = 0.1183 BTC [+] 358972;1382721947;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00235983 = 0.472 BTC [+] {3} 358973;1382722446;dexX7;http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/10/25/fbi-says-its-seized-20-million-in-bitcoins-from-ross-ulbricht-alleged-owner-of-silk-road/ 358974;1382722446;ozbot;FBI Says It's Seized $28.5 Million In Bitcoins From Ross Ulbricht, Alleged Owner Of Silk Road - Forb 358975;1382722602;mircea_popescu;100k ? 358976;1382722609;mircea_popescu;better than mining 358977;1382722646;dexX7;haha yea 358978;1382722678;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 43 @ 0.00788994 = 0.3393 BTC [+] 358979;1382722679;dexX7;that's 180k confiscated coins now, if i'm not mistaken 358980;1382722739;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 14 @ 0.00788994 = 0.1105 BTC [+] 358981;1382722756;mircea_popescu;An FBI official tells me that the bureau has located and seized a collection of 144,000 bitcoins, the largest seizure of that cryptocurrency ever, worth close to $28.5 million at current exchange rates. It believes that the stash belonged to Ross Ulbricht 358982;1382722774;mircea_popescu;ahem. so basically all future bitcoin incvome of the us will be reported as allegedly confiscated from this guy ? 358983;1382722776;mircea_popescu;nice plan. 358984;1382722815;dexX7;it probably more like "we found the privkey on his machine, so it's his drug money" 358985;1382722902;VanCleef;invest in lube 358986;1382722907;VanCleef;we're all going to need it for jail 358987;1382722922;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 44 @ 0.00788994 = 0.3472 BTC [+] 358988;1382722939;dexX7;the pattern is strange.. "take a wallet with > 3k coins, send 324 to 'dpr seized wallet', and repeat this step with the change" 358989;1382723471;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.8 BTC [-] 358990;1382723715;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.785 = 3.14 BTC [-] {2} 358991;1382723837;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1697 @ 0.00209541 = 3.5559 BTC [-] {7} 358992;1382723898;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 525 @ 0.00209024 = 1.0974 BTC [-] {2} 358993;1382723899;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.75002499 = 3.0001 BTC [-] {4} 358994;1382723959;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.79768332 = 4.7861 BTC [+] {4} 358995;1382723960;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SMG] 21000 @ 0.00014022 = 2.9446 BTC [-] {7} 358996;1382724081;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 74 @ 0.00788995 = 0.5839 BTC [+] 358997;1382724691;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 59 @ 0.72797965 = 42.9508 BTC [-] {9} 358998;1382725301;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 46 @ 0.00750706 = 0.3453 BTC [-] {3} 358999;1382725362;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2000 @ 0.00236519 = 4.7304 BTC [+] {6} 359000;1382725363;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SMG] 5944 @ 0.0001401 = 0.8328 BTC [-] 359001;1382725850;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 45 @ 0.0078 = 0.351 BTC [+] 359002;1382727131;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 6250 @ 0.00238832 = 14.927 BTC [+] {5} 359003;1382728595;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 82 @ 0.1418962 = 11.6355 BTC [+] {8} 359004;1382728656;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 18 @ 0.14462222 = 2.6032 BTC [+] {2} 359005;1382728778;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 700 @ 0.14868269 = 104.0779 BTC [+] {4} 359006;1382728839;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 23 @ 0.15017391 = 3.454 BTC [+] {3} 359007;1382729083;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.2237 = 0.4474 BTC [+] {2} 359008;1382729404;lewicki;woah 359009;1382729407;lewicki;lots of buying on gox 359010;1382729632;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.7315 BTC [+] 359011;1382730181;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 500 @ 0.00726781 = 3.6339 BTC [-] {6} 359012;1382730487;kleeck;;;seen yeahyeah 359013;1382730488;gribble;yeahyeah was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 days, 5 hours, 55 minutes, and 39 seconds ago: <yeahyeah> yes 359014;1382730490;kleeck;RIP 359015;1382730719;Rulother;RIP 359016;1382731050;benkay;is anyone charting assets listed on MPEx? 359017;1382731089;benkay;stretching back further than a month... 359018;1382731120;kleeck;Cashing out of Am dexX7 ? 359019;1382731139;dexX7;benkay: www.coinflow.co 359020;1382731252;dexX7;kleeck: yes. now that the shareprice will rise back to a few btc, i think now is a good time ;) 359021;1382731269;kleeck;:) 359022;1382731274;kleeck;Of course, of course... 359023;1382731282;dexX7;*may :x 359024;1382731523;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 136 @ 0.00725 = 0.986 BTC [-] {3} 359025;1382731584;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 59 @ 0.00722001 = 0.426 BTC [-] {3} 359026;1382731589;mircea_popescu;benkay http://live.coinbr.com/?mpsic=S.MPOE 359027;1382731623;benkay;mircea_popescu: that last one only has a month of history. 359028;1382731640;mircea_popescu;i thought it also had a year option 359029;1382731726;benkay;i see none such 359030;1382731733;mircea_popescu;hm 359031;1382731767;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1551 @ 0.00082471 = 1.2791 BTC [-] 359032;1382731767;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 366 @ 0.00114799 = 0.4202 BTC [+] 359033;1382731778;benkay;coinflow has all data - thanks dexX7 359034;1382731795;dexX7;np 359035;1382731844;benkay;you may want to take down the link to btctc dexX7 359036;1382731916;dexX7;you mean in the thread? yeah.. i think i should replace the "this will be updated soon" announcement with the actual update rather sooner than later 359037;1382732036;benkay;talking about the link in the "research" dropdown 359038;1382732050;dexX7;???? 359039;1382732053;dexX7;ah 359040;1382732054;dexX7;nono 359041;1382732057;dexX7;i'm not the admin of coinflow 359042;1382732071;benkay;my mistake 359043;1382732072;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 420 @ 0.00113033 = 0.4747 BTC [-] {5} 359044;1382732133;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 39 @ 0.0075 = 0.2925 BTC [+] 359045;1382732804;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 18 @ 0.007789 = 0.1402 BTC [-] 359046;1382733170;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.7795 BTC [+] 359047;1382733684;ThickAsThieves;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=289730.msg3411869#msg3411869 359048;1382733686;ozbot;[IPVO] [Multiple Exchanges] Neo & Bee - LMB Holdings 359049;1382733694;ThickAsThieves;Official Neo Updates, Oct. 25, 2013 359050;1382733730;dexX7;YES :D: 359051;1382734268;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 193 @ 0.00244999 = 0.4728 BTC [+] 359052;1382734939;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00769979 = 0.385 BTC [-] 359053;1382735000;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 402 @ 0.00245 = 0.9849 BTC [+] {3} 359054;1382735183;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 154 @ 0.00246015 = 0.3789 BTC [+] {2} 359055;1382735245;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 275 @ 0.0025 = 0.6875 BTC [+] 359056;1382735293;mircea_popescu;http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/10/24/exclusive_germany_brazil_turn_to_un_to_restrain_american_spies 359057;1382735293;ozbot;Exclusive: Germany, Brazil Turn to U.N. to Restrain American Spies | The Cable 359058;1382735300;mircea_popescu;the un general assembly is going to be a riot. 359059;1382735312;mircea_popescu;obama takes off shoe, slams it against table ? 359060;1382735348;jurov;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oBZaht3nNo 359061;1382735348;ozbot;DentiDrill - de eerste tandartsboor voor thuisgebruik - YouTube 359062;1382735358;jurov;mircea_popescu: citizen dentistry is here! 359063;1382735365;asciilifeform;nah, he'll just gather a group of flunkies in his office and shout 'nein nein nein nein nein!' 359064;1382735377;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform NEVER AGAIN YOU HEAR!!! WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT~!!!!1 359065;1382735413;nubbins`;!!! 359066;1382735423;mircea_popescu;jurov yeah, those two really look like they can't afford the dentist visit 359067;1382735427;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00769979 = 0.385 BTC [-] {2} 359068;1382735428;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 0.07459 = 0.2984 BTC [+] 359069;1382735457;jurov;that's homeschooling, don't need no filthy teachers or doctors 359070;1382735497;mircea_popescu;seems a broken analogy. 359071;1382735515;mircea_popescu;schooling would appear to be more akin cooking than dentistry. 359072;1382735549;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 210 @ 0.00114799 = 0.2411 BTC [+] 359073;1382735703;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform here you go : "The worst case scenario I think would be having our European allies saying they will no longer share signals intelligence because of a concern that our SigInt is being derived from mechanisms that violate their privacy rules," said Ray Kimball, an army strategist with policy experience on European issues. 359074;1382735855;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.77 BTC [-] 359075;1382735864;jurov;Oh my! Oracle powered exchange. 359076;1382736018;jurov;and all dat swag...mircea, nobody will take you seriously now. you absolutely must announce microsoft sql server or google partnership. 359077;1382736058;mircea_popescu;i don't know anyone there i'd want to partner with tho. 359078;1382736061;mircea_popescu;sucks to be me i guess. 359079;1382736067;jurov;and don't forget MPEx-themed condoms 359080;1382736199;mircea_popescu;i can't do that, the neoreactionaries would hate me because i am helping the jewish-african plot to subvert white fecundity. 359081;1382736218;pankkake;I want the pankkake-themed butt plug http://i.imgur.com/xOftDYp.png 359082;1382736220;mircea_popescu;http://www.vdare.com/articles/diversity-boot-camp-closed-at-the-university-of-delaware-but-big-brother-is-still-going-str < not a bad read. 359083;1382736281;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.33999999 BTC [-] 359084;1382736673;dub;can't read it because its layed out like the writer has sever ADHD 359085;1382736714;jurov;it's an African-American woman of biracial West Indian and Russian-Jewish heritage 359086;1382736727;dub;but at a glimpse, angry old man syndrome 359087;1382736738;mircea_popescu;dub what's that ? 359088;1382736778;dub;ADHD? its another name for asperges 359089;1382736810;mircea_popescu;angry old man syndrome. 359090;1382736816;pankkake;curmudgeon 359091;1382736875;mircea_popescu;"Americans don't want to study hard things. That's for foreigners. Fluff courses like these ethnic-studies timewastersthat's what people want. Unless a university is 'anchored' by a big department teaching real subjectsa medical or engineering schoolthe drift is all that way." 359092;1382736877;dub;it just looks like a 'in my day' rant 359093;1382736891;mircea_popescu;no, seriously, it's perhaps the best discussion of us academia i've read. ever. 359094;1382736968;mircea_popescu;it does strangely veer into how aids is all about faggots and evil black people in africa however. 359095;1382736971;mircea_popescu;weird how that works out. 359096;1382737010;dexX7;https://blockchain.info/address/1FfmbHfnpaZjKFvyi1okTjJJusN455paPH all those 324 btc tx ... http://www.pachd.com/free-images/technology-images/phone-dial-pad-01.jpg :D 359097;1382737011;ozbot;Bitcoin Address 1FfmbHfnpaZjKFvyi1okTjJJusN455paPH 359098;1382737089;mircea_popescu;dexX7 lmao someone in the fbi seriously sat over a console coding up a way to send bitcoins in 324 batches ? 359099;1382737096;mircea_popescu;cute. 359100;1382737101;dexX7;yes 359101;1382737121;dub;I suspect if they'd been teachign empathy and inclusivety in 1852 the world would be a lot nicer place 359102;1382737144;dub;inb4 blawgrage 359103;1382737154;mircea_popescu;dub yeah, i'd be speaking chinese and you lot wouldn't be on the internet. 359104;1382737154;dexX7;if you take a look at a phonepad and type 324 it will include the chars to form FBI 359105;1382737191;dub;dexX7: fucken chemtrails 359106;1382737208;dexX7;chemtrails are bad, yes :p 359107;1382737216;mircea_popescu;dexX7 i'm aware. i just thought it's marginally ridiculous to be that desperate to impress bitcoin forum/reddit. 359108;1382737255;dexX7;haha yea 359109;1382737295;mircea_popescu;but hey, whatever. sucks being a govt agency, if you do shit like this you're too eager, if you don't you're dumb, there's no way out. 359110;1382737335;dexX7;there is still the theory that the whole bust was manufactured 359111;1382737354;mircea_popescu;you mean presley's or hoffa's ? 359112;1382737383;dexX7;i'm looking for the post, sec 359113;1382737403;mircea_popescu;you can't be too young to have missed those references ?! 359114;1382737420;dexX7;:D 359115;1382737428;dexX7;i don't know this reference 359116;1382737473;mircea_popescu;well the theory is that elvis isn't really dead, just hiding, and then hoffa (teamsters union) was dissapeared mysteriously 359117;1382737494;mircea_popescu;so obliquely, "yeah, you'll never get rid of the theory X thing is manufactured" 359118;1382737537;dexX7;ah 359119;1382737581;kakobrekla;you should say tupac or something, for the kids 359120;1382737601;mircea_popescu;dr dre's dead 359121;1382737605;mircea_popescu;he's locked in ma basement 359122;1382737623;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 103 @ 0.00113 = 0.1164 BTC [-] {2} 359123;1382737806;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 3500 @ 0.0025 = 8.75 BTC [+] 359124;1382737851;mod6;mircea_popescu: haha 359125;1382737956;dexX7;well anyway. i don't find it, but it was on reddit. probably deleted by the mods, because it was true. :p 359126;1382737963;dexX7;jk 359127;1382738024;dexX7;http://www.reddit.com/r/SilkroadUNcensored/comments/1p0ogt/time_to_let_the_cat_out_of_the_hat/ 359128;1382738111;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.0025 = 1.25 BTC [+] 359129;1382738192;mircea_popescu;lol it got deleted ? 359130;1382738207;mircea_popescu;i remember reading it yest or w/e. coupla pages of the usual fare. 359131;1382738244;kakobrekla;https://www.coinx.com/ 359132;1382738245;ozbot;Home Page - CoinX Trading Platform 359133;1382738294;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 4000 @ 0.0025 = 10 BTC [+] 359134;1382738331;dexX7;looks like another hobby project 359135;1382738357;kakobrekla;http://finance.yahoo.com/news/coinx-bitcoin-exchange-actually-takes-142123182.html 359136;1382738358;ozbot;CoinX Is A New Bitcoin Exchange That Actually Takes Financial Compliance Seriously - Yahoo Finance 359137;1382738359;mircea_popescu;allthese pictures of handshakes... 359138;1382738368;dexX7;uh lol 359139;1382738391;kakobrekla;Operating out of Atlanta, Ga., CoinX is all about turning conventional money into the anonymous digital currency called Bitcoin, and Bitcoin into conventional money. It's also the first to actually take financial compliance seriously. 359140;1382738437;kakobrekla;CoinX and the NYSE are so closely linked that the NYSE logo appears on some CoinX marketing. 359141;1382738438;kakobrekla;lol 359142;1382738465;mircea_popescu;uh what ? 359143;1382738536;mircea_popescu;Megan is the founder and CEO of a successful Internet security and networking company that provides service to a number of Fortune 1000 companies. 359144;1382738539;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 4512 @ 0.00211056 = 9.5228 BTC [-] {21} 359145;1382738571;kakobrekla;i think theres a reason why over 50% of fx trades is in europe 359146;1382738573;mircea_popescu;who apparently had some startup in atlanta called seegee 359147;1382738573;dexX7;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJBFaaYGmqQ 359148;1382738574;ozbot;Testimonial - Megan Burton of CoinX - YouTube 359149;1382738582;dexX7;http://www.seegee.com/about-us/management-team.html 359150;1382738583;ozbot;IT Management Team - SeeGee Technologies 359151;1382738599;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 488 @ 0.002 = 0.976 BTC [-] 359152;1382738600;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.78449892 BTC [+] 359153;1382738620;mircea_popescu;so okay, burned through the funding, moved over to bitcoin. 359154;1382738671;mircea_popescu;i wonder how many of the retarded vcs (defined as any vc who's not been talking to me, no matter what their mommy told them about how smart they are) realise that the new mo of the start-up scamscene is, get a "seed round", turn it to bitcoin, walk away with the wallet a year later. 359155;1382738684;kakobrekla;>>"no doesnt mean no, means not right now" 359156;1382738721;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00249995 = 0.25 BTC [+] 359157;1382738752;kakobrekla;>CoinX is licensed in more than half of US states. 359158;1382738755;kakobrekla;that beats kraken? 359159;1382738817;mircea_popescu;until they show proof to these claims, btcjam is licensed on the pacific ocean floor. 359160;1382738832;mircea_popescu;and tux has a license from a kappa he once met on a river bank. 359161;1382738904;jurov;we have somalian license 359162;1382738981;dexX7;kakobrekla: was it you who "tested" btc.cx? what was your conclusion? 359163;1382738990;dexX7;www.btc.sx 359164;1382738998;kakobrekla;very poorly coded 359165;1382739008;pankkake;.sx and not related to sex :/ 359166;1382739014;jurov;.sux 359167;1382739022;kakobrekla;^^ 359168;1382739033;dexX7;xD 359169;1382739046;kakobrekla;but hey im a sladerous soul 359170;1382739050;kakobrekla;so dont listen to me. 359171;1382739072;jurov;my slovenly slanderous somalian 359172;1382739094;jurov;*slovenly slanderous somalian soul 359173;1382739099;pankkake;somali* 359174;1382739108;jurov;oh sry 359175;1382739122;kakobrekla;twice as worse as the SS 359176;1382739337;mircea_popescu;<jurov> my slovenly slanderous somalian <<< ahaha best in class. 359177;1382739495;ThickAsThieves;<jurov> Oh my! Oracle powered exchange. <<< if you're referring to Neo, there is no Oracle-powered exchange or such. Oracle is for Neo and Bee's previously announced business services. To my knowledge, they are merely exploring the idea of doing the stock exchange down the road, and have no software plans in that regard. 359178;1382739556;kakobrekla;yeah jurov whats up with the slander 359179;1382739567;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves you know, it's a little strange you're doing their announcements for them. you're starting like a pr practice or what is it ? 359180;1382739591;jurov;what slander? towards oracle? cuz i was a DBA. 359181;1382739592;mircea_popescu;you actually signing off on them, if they fail to deliver whatever people get to pursue you ? 359182;1382739593;ThickAsThieves;more like transfer agent / asset manager 359183;1382739628;mircea_popescu;it'd prolly be a good idea to clearly specify the relationship, preferably by a published contract. otherwise you'll have trouble managing expectations down the road. 359184;1382739645;ThickAsThieves;all claims are those of Neo's, not TATI 359185;1382739646;jurov;in any case i doubt they'll choose something other for exchange, having the expertise in-house 359186;1382739658;ThickAsThieves;this relationship is explained in the prospectus 359187;1382739666;ThickAsThieves;whether sufficient, i cant say 359188;1382739747;mircea_popescu;well, the fact remains most people that managed to ruin their reputation to date did so by agreeing to front for some third party new to btc that then went tits up. 359189;1382739854;jurov;ThickAsThieves: no hard feelings... aside for my personal oracle dba misadventure, i found it funny to publish photos of swag like there 359190;1382739892;ThickAsThieves;I understand. We went through several measures to manage that concern. Surely we could have done more, and we can never prevent outright failure of the business, but we do have a contract with Neo directly that defines our role as well. 359191;1382739923;jurov;wow, you got managerspeak bug :) 359192;1382739924;ThickAsThieves;i know nothing of Oracle vs this or that. Honestly my personal impression of Oracle is negative 359193;1382739935;mircea_popescu;just make sure people know about the definitions so you have what to fall back on in case. 359194;1382739942;mircea_popescu;financial management is contingency management after all. 359195;1382739972;dexX7;how many people are behind ThickAsThieves? 359196;1382739978;ThickAsThieves;Understood, contigency planning seems to be most of my time these days... 359197;1382740000;ThickAsThieves;haha, well ThickAsThieves is just a handle for me personally 359198;1382740004;mircea_popescu;jurov oracle is pretty good if you run a large non it corp, because you can just call them to fix your shit. it's non trivial to keep on staff it people able to handle large-ish server farms. 359199;1382740016;ThickAsThieves;TATI the entity is 2 partners and a few software guys 359200;1382740020;dexX7;ah okay :) 359201;1382740049;mircea_popescu;leaving aside the horrible obamacare website fail which probably everyone heard of, check out say this : 359202;1382740050;mircea_popescu;http://ace.mu.nu/archives/334783.php 359203;1382740073;mircea_popescu;(romney's campaign fail) 359204;1382740124;jurov;so neo/bee won't have in house dba? oracle support, especially urgent one, is expensive 359205;1382740140;ThickAsThieves;i know their oracle setup wasnt cheap 359206;1382740144;jurov;i' not sure cyprus market can easily support sich 359207;1382740150;jurov;*such 359208;1382740159;mircea_popescu;maybe they already have it for something else and are just freeriding this on that. 359209;1382740175;mircea_popescu;inhouse dba is expensive too, for that matter. 359210;1382740185;jurov;no i understood it as they creating new team from scratch 359211;1382740202;mircea_popescu;ya well. 359212;1382740211;jurov;"Leon has a long-standing relationship with Danny Brewster, trust has been established over many years." or from scrotch 359213;1382740219;ThickAsThieves;they have a software consulting co that is handling it all i think, as a long term partner 359214;1382740234;ThickAsThieves;i met two of the guys 359215;1382740248;ThickAsThieves;they are hiring for the project, yes 359216;1382740360;jurov;whatever, i just want to say whole setup looks too excessive. 359217;1382740381;dexX7;is there already an eta for the exchange or is it more an idea? 359218;1382740395;ThickAsThieves;excessive to run a payment network and bank chains? 359219;1382740403;ThickAsThieves;i have no idea 359220;1382740416;ThickAsThieves;the exchange has no timeline 359221;1382740426;jurov;i mean the office space, furniture, oracle licenses, etc. 359222;1382740475;ThickAsThieves;i guess time will tell, i have no way to argue for or against the frigality 359223;1382740479;ThickAsThieves;frugality 359224;1382740517;ThickAsThieves;probably isnt one answer anyway 359225;1382740595;jurov;imho these are suitable for established bank, not as a first thing after they got investment 359226;1382740614;mircea_popescu;jurov lol they got one crampy conference room and some office space, give teh people a break. 359227;1382740620;ThickAsThieves;is your opinion from experience? 359228;1382740624;mircea_popescu;i've seen MUCH worse in ny and sf. 359229;1382740636;pankkake;my experience is that oracle sucks balls :p 359230;1382740654;pankkake;otherwise the thing looks ok. actually, I don't really undertand why they have to communicate about oracle 359231;1382740668;dexX7;mircea_popescu: you must have missed that http://i.imgur.com/U1lr806.png ;) 359232;1382740672;ThickAsThieves;the pictures do make the office space look smaller than it is 359233;1382740674;jurov;My experience is that in slovakia (similarly sized marked like cyprus) such spaces are few and far between. 359234;1382740688;ThickAsThieves;when i was there i was like oh, i thought it this was all much smaller 359235;1382740689;mircea_popescu;dexX7 that looks like a model :p 359236;1382740705;ThickAsThieves;the buidling exists 359237;1382740713;ThickAsThieves;and looks much like the rendering 359238;1382740718;ThickAsThieves;the signage isnt there yet 359239;1382740727;ThickAsThieves;they have the whole floor just above the sign 359240;1382740728;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves yeah pictures usually do. i know the first time i went on a set and saw the actual tits i was hmm... didn't think they're actually that big. 359241;1382740734;ThickAsThieves;and then one rretail unit below it 359242;1382740743;ThickAsThieves;haha 359243;1382740748;dexX7;the whole complex is used by them or did they just rent a floor? 359244;1382740756;dexX7;ah okaxy 359245;1382740774;ThickAsThieves;the top floor is their design agency 359246;1382740774;mircea_popescu;dexX7 the building is made from the caps of pens they use in filing their taxes 359247;1382740784;ThickAsThieves;the software agency is considering an office bnearby as well 359248;1382740790;mircea_popescu;it rests atop an artificial island created out of employee icecream tubs. 359249;1382740810;ThickAsThieves;mktg agency, i should say, not design 359250;1382740822;ThickAsThieves;of course they do design as well 359251;1382741344;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 500 @ 0.00048815 = 0.2441 BTC [-] {11} 359252;1382743235;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.0011478 = 0.1148 BTC [+] 359253;1382743784;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 127 @ 0.00249 = 0.3162 BTC [-] 359254;1382743845;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 369 @ 0.00249 = 0.9188 BTC [-] 359255;1382744089;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3650 @ 0.00082765 = 3.0209 BTC [+] {2} 359256;1382744895;nubbins`;<mircea_popescu> i can't do that, the neoreactionaries would hate me because i am helping the jewish-african plot to subvert white fecundity. 359257;1382744914;nubbins`;it's so rare that i see the word "fecund" used in conversation. great word 359258;1382744932;mircea_popescu;:p 359259;1382745126;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.77 BTC [-] 359260;1382745233;nubbins`;<dexX7> if you take a look at a phonepad and type 324 it will include the chars to form FBI 359261;1382745237;nubbins`;lel, a thousand times lel 359262;1382745241;nubbins`;(just catching up here) 359263;1382745248;dexX7;haha yeah 359264;1382745249;nubbins`;zine workshop was a bit of a shit show 359265;1382745285;mircea_popescu;crazy bitches ? 359266;1382745375;nubbins`;the workshop itself was great, everybody loved printing. but then i got stuck in the room for a "discussion" between this youth group and their project supervisors 359267;1382745386;nubbins`;where basically everyone argued for an hour 359268;1382745411;nubbins`;about their responsibilities 359269;1382745445;mircea_popescu;kids there don't get beaten enough. 359270;1382745453;nubbins`;well, that was one of the points that came up 359271;1382745465;nubbins`;it's 9 youths from canada and 9 from ghana 359272;1382745478;mircea_popescu;o wow. interesting idea 359273;1382745488;nubbins`;yeah. 3 months here, 3 months there 359274;1382745538;nubbins`;anyway, the issue arose because the ghanaians don't feel comfortable questioning "authority" figures, and the supervisors were explaining that here in canada if you don't understand why you're doing something, you ask, because you're trying to be a part of our culture 359275;1382745553;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.76 BTC [-] 359276;1382745563;nubbins`;then the point was raised that the canadians will also probably end up feeling uncomfortable in ghana because children are caned there 359277;1382745595;nubbins`;and the canadians were all "o" 359278;1382745599;mircea_popescu;ahahaha precious 359279;1382745614;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.75 = 4.5 BTC [-] {2} 359280;1382745638;mircea_popescu;somehow we must get this perfect middle where if you don't understand you ask but if you think you know better you stfu or get caned. 359281;1382745658;mircea_popescu;i'd totally move to that ghanada. 359282;1382745664;mircea_popescu;heck, even pay taxes. 359283;1382745681;nubbins`;! 359284;1382745692;nubbins`;funny, "ghanada" is exactly what's written on the covers of the zines 359285;1382745712;nubbins`;you sure you're not a youth volunteer? 359286;1382745768;mircea_popescu;i'm just the nsa, that's all. 359287;1382745786;monkey`;that trashbag mircea popescu selling a new pump and dump? 359288;1382745819;kakobrekla;dis comming from labcoin investor? 359289;1382745826;monkey`;http://mpex.co/?mpsic=S.NSA 359290;1382745840;monkey`;fuck is this new garbage? what happend to his little online RPG 359291;1382745876;mircea_popescu;Jun 22 23:49:41 <ThickAsThieves>[16:47] * bitcoin935 (3246306d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.70.48.109) Quit (Quit: <ThickAsThieves> sometimes i watch "the three stooges" to take notes.) 359292;1382745885;mircea_popescu;so i guess this is the that guy, what's his name 359293;1382745898;monkey`;shutup gypsy 359294;1382745920;mircea_popescu;what were you originally ? the guy with the cars/living standards/whatnot 359295;1382745923;monkey`;where is your online game? 359296;1382745924;mod6;money` = EB 359297;1382745934;mod6;*monkey` 359298;1382745943;nubbins`;oh! eskimo bob? 359299;1382745950;mircea_popescu;no ?! 359300;1382745950;mod6;yah, long time no troll 359301;1382745962;asciilifeform;reptilia? is back? 359302;1382745965;monkey`;mircea_popescu: where is your online RPG? 359303;1382745966;mircea_popescu;ahaha, wait, the "fuck asics, i'll make a heat oven PMG" ? 359304;1382745971;nubbins`;^ 359305;1382745994;mircea_popescu;monkey` i can't tell you cause you'll probably be mean to it. 359306;1382746004;monkey`;mircea right 359307;1382746013;monkey`;mircea is an adult? lol. 359308;1382746023;monkey`;fake name too 359309;1382746031;nubbins`;everybody's an adult but you ;) 359310;1382746051;mircea_popescu;but srsly, http://minigame.bz/eulora/binaries/ 359311;1382746061;nubbins`;^ 359312;1382746106;dexX7;you sure are minimal.. http://minigame.bz/ 359313;1382746127;mircea_popescu;dexX7 you know the all one california crazy soap ? 359314;1382746165;dexX7;which one? californication? 359315;1382746168;mircea_popescu;nono 359316;1382746174;dexX7;i have no idea what you are talking about 359317;1382746176;dexX7;:/ 359318;1382746180;mircea_popescu;http://www.drbronner.com/ 359319;1382746181;ozbot;Dr. Bronner's Magic Soaps All-One 359320;1382746192;dexX7;haha wtf 359321;1382746199;mircea_popescu;you should see the labels on those things 359322;1382746209;mircea_popescu;it's basically timecube on a fmcg label 359323;1382746210;nubbins`;i watched a documentary on that soap a while ago 359324;1382746220;nubbins`;weird people 359325;1382746248;mircea_popescu;it 359326;1382746259;mircea_popescu;'s even got sideways print to fill all available surfaces with rant 359327;1382746335;dexX7;interesting approach 359328;1382746401;mircea_popescu;dexX7's TIL counter is getting tickled today lol 359329;1382746417;nubbins`;hmm, EB has fallen oddly silent 359330;1382746435;mircea_popescu;i think it's the other guy honestly 359331;1382746439;mircea_popescu;what the fuck was his original handle 359332;1382746441;nubbins`;ah 359333;1382746447;mircea_popescu;dub what's the guy's handle ? 359334;1382746462;benkay;tib? 359335;1382746465;mircea_popescu;a a yes 359336;1382746466;mircea_popescu;tiberiusd 359337;1382746468;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.74 BTC [-] 359338;1382746480;benkay;tib was a class act 359339;1382746511;benkay;he even got you worked up a few times 359340;1382746543;mircea_popescu;o ya ? 359341;1382746623;benkay;point is this human is no tiberiusxiv 359342;1382746631;nubbins`;(HEH) 359343;1382746657;mircea_popescu;mebbeh so 359344;1382746956;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 19 @ 0.00727552 = 0.1382 BTC [-] {3} 359345;1382746957;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 250 @ 0.00239999 = 0.6 BTC [-] {2} 359346;1382747018;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 103 @ 0.00114798 = 0.1182 BTC [+] {2} 359347;1382747261;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 250 @ 0.00239999 = 0.6 BTC [-] 359348;1382747383;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00239999 = 0.24 BTC [-] 359349;1382747590;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/were-all-one/ dex there's a pic of the label there. 359350;1382747591;ozbot;We’re all one pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 359351;1382747627;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.0024 = 0.24 BTC [+] 359352;1382747701;benkay;amazing soap 359353;1382747701;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 359354;1382747713;Kleeck_;assbot is such a dick 359355;1382747727;mircea_popescu;strangely enough, it IS the best soap in the us 359356;1382747906;dexX7;lol 359357;1382747911;dexX7;indeed an amazing soap 359358;1382747911;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 359359;1382748115;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.34 BTC [+] 359360;1382748119;nubbins`;http://all-one-typography.com/Dr_Bronners-label-Peppermint-32oz.jpg 359361;1382748157;nubbins`;i'm outta here, it's friday night and i'm still sober 359362;1382748199;KRS1;do something about that player im about to 359363;1382748220;mircea_popescu;omfg they have it online. wow. 359364;1382748237;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.16 BTC [-] 359365;1382749388;benkay;y'all should see their new tirades about GMOs 359366;1382749492;Kleeck_;GMOs are the devil. 359367;1382749517;benkay;dat binary thinking 359368;1382749531;Kleeck_;dat assumption. 359369;1382749533;Kleeck_;:) 359370;1382749548;Kleeck_;"Agree with me or you're binary!" 359371;1382749549;Kleeck_;ROFL. 359372;1382749554;Kleeck_;The illusion of intelligence. 359373;1382749564;benkay;what ams devil? 359374;1382749610;benkay;what ams gmo? 359375;1382749620;benkay;i just want a little more subtlety in the conversation 359376;1382749630;KRS1;nothing wrong with gmo's..people just being paranoid. 359377;1382749646;benkay;f.ex: an organism identified to carry a certain set of genes bred with another organism some breeders would like to see that gene in 359378;1382749651;benkay;ams gmo? 359379;1382749674;KRS1;benkay: engineers reprogram for instance the dna of a tomato so they grow really big and feed more people..a really simple example 359380;1382749681;mircea_popescu;benkay do you understand the process behind gmo ? 359381;1382749709;benkay;(mircea_popescu: yes) 359382;1382749730;mircea_popescu;well so then that's the objection. has nothing to do with reproduction, it's just mashing things together 359383;1382749742;benkay;i'm quibbling about what it means for a thing to be a "genetically modified organism" 359384;1382749770;benkay;especially given what's coming out about the common nature of organic viral-driven lateral gene transfer 359385;1382749771;mircea_popescu;it means to have undergone this process where random bits of dna were thrown at a large number of cells just like it, in the hopes that something maybe catches. 359386;1382749779;dexX7;usually it's more like "we make the tomato resistant vs pesticide x" afaik 359387;1382749810;mircea_popescu;benkay i will trust a natural process, such as viral transfer, on the grounds that in millenia of practice it failed to make the world dangerous for me. 359388;1382749831;mircea_popescu;i will not trust an industrial process, such as gmo, on the grounds that in centuries of practice it NEVER failed to make the world dangerous for me. 359389;1382749850;dexX7;^ +1 359390;1382749851;mircea_popescu;quite a gap there 359391;1382749884;benkay;on the same note, everything that increases agricultural output is a bad thing 'cause it leads rather quickly to more humans 359392;1382749923;asciilifeform;there's also the more prosaic fact that 99% of gmo work is for: pesticide resistance. 359393;1382749935;mircea_popescu;that's also a good point yeah. 359394;1382749937;asciilifeform;pesticide/herbicide 359395;1382749950;mircea_popescu;benkay i doubt there's much relation. famine is well resilient to dropping prices of grain 359396;1382749989;mircea_popescu;people will make ethanol out of corn or buy it to rot in govt "reserves" before feeding any starving idiots 359397;1382749997;asciilifeform;btw, when will the drug aficionados get around to the fabled 'THC tomato.' that'd be something to write home about. 359398;1382750040;benkay;why would you put those genes in a plant that fruits? 359399;1382750056;mircea_popescu;what plant doesn't fruit ?! 359400;1382750068;asciilifeform;camouflage. 359401;1382750094;benkay;actually now i'm curious what an unpollinated tomato would do 359402;1382750115;benkay;'cause that's how one prevents a pot plant from going to seed 359403;1382750135;benkay;anyways there's decades of breeding in the pot plants that i find it hard to imagine getting around with gmos 359404;1382750149;mircea_popescu;you never know your luck 359405;1382750156;mircea_popescu;gmo is basically a game of vegas slots 359406;1382750171;mircea_popescu;except people have found a way to get investors to pay for it 359407;1382750197;asciilifeform;very much so. a place i worked went broke partly because we couldn't get a necessary transfection going. 359408;1382750269;mircea_popescu;it's basically a game of "twelve lines" or "six lines" or w/e 359409;1382750274;mircea_popescu;those lines could each be 1 in 100 359410;1382750280;mircea_popescu;or they could be 1 in 10^65 359411;1382750284;mircea_popescu;you don't know... 359412;1382750291;mircea_popescu;so you get five of the six... and that's all you're going to get. 359413;1382750302;asciilifeform;it's also a game of 'e. coli simply can't be persuaded to piss out X.' or 'croaks trying.' 359414;1382750347;mircea_popescu;that's probably the product of the future, by the way : the organic computer. 359415;1382750352;KRS1;yes 359416;1382750358;mircea_popescu;in the sense of, this programmable device capable of controlled gmoization. 359417;1382750386;mircea_popescu;sort of like a 3d printer + desktop combo, but made out of cunt tissue and capable of pissing apples. 359418;1382750395;mircea_popescu;(not whole apples, of course. apple paste) 359419;1382750398;asciilifeform;we have those already: chinese postdocs. they don't always cut it, though. 359420;1382750404;KRS1;heh thats quite a picture 359421;1382750446;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform nah, they can't actually sprout shitake. 359422;1382750451;KRS1;i would like pr0ns of that 359423;1382750531;mircea_popescu;anyway, asciilifeform, the saddest story to date is of this corp that MANAGED it. once. 359424;1382750541;mircea_popescu;they figured it's easy to do, and so didn't pay enough attention to the samples 359425;1382750542;mircea_popescu;which died. 359426;1382750547;mircea_popescu;and then could never do it again. 359427;1382750554;asciilifeform;managed what? 359428;1382750565;mircea_popescu;the whole list of combos they needed 359429;1382750583;mircea_popescu;apparently one of them being a very improbable occurence they lucked out on. once. 359430;1382750616;asciilifeform;when you're in bio business, you have to be prepared that your working capital can literally croak. 359431;1382750626;asciilifeform;one of the worst occasions is when a mouse farm dies 359432;1382750630;asciilifeform;this can happen overnight. 359433;1382750660;asciilifeform;(little buggers all catch something at once. esp. if they're immunocompromised for whatever reason.) 359434;1382750676;mircea_popescu;yeah. 359435;1382750715;mircea_popescu;afaik you can't even go into the mouse farms anymore 359436;1382750719;mircea_popescu;wholly robotic shit 359437;1382750732;asciilifeform;btw, phun phact: they're under 24/7 armed guard, in any respectable shop. 359438;1382750758;asciilifeform;i've never once been inside - didn't have clearance. 359439;1382750769;mircea_popescu;well 20 years ago it was a lot more amicable a thing 359440;1382750823;mircea_popescu;;;ident benkay 359441;1382750823;gribble;Nick 'benkay', with hostmask 'benkay!~benkay@c-71-193-200-93.hsd1.or.comcast.net', is not identified. 359442;1382750836;asciilifeform;the newer ones have compartmentalized air supplies for individual lots - a bit like dirigible ballonettes. 359443;1382750865;benkay;;;ident benkay 359444;1382750866;gribble;Nick 'benkay', with hostmask 'benkay!~benkay@c-71-193-200-93.hsd1.or.comcast.net', is not identified. 359445;1382750870;benkay;wa 359446;1382750880;benkay;oh wot as well 359447;1382750900;benkay;a full day of fighting stupid computers 359448;1382751104;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.00082881 = 6.1332 BTC [+] {2} 359449;1382751183;benkay;!mp http://dpaste.com/1429816/plain/ 359450;1382751183;assbot;Processing. 359451;1382751185;assbot;Response: http://dpaste.com/1429817/plain/ 359452;1382751217;benkay;the robots hate me today 359453;1382751464;asciilifeform;benkay: industrial robo? 359454;1382751497;benkay;no, i got shot of actual physical fucking atoms a year ago 359455;1382751509;benkay;nearly a year and a half! 359456;1382751517;benkay;the cloud robots. 359457;1382751635;asciilifeform;i still can't bring myself to call a widget that pushes only electrons a robot. 359458;1382751713;benkay;the widgets for which i'm responsible ultimately move atoms around 359459;1382751733;benkay;but only after shunting lots of electrons and making lots of api calls and getting the odd human involved 359460;1382751781;benkay;far more fun to play with than the industrial type 359461;1382751830;asciilifeform;there's an undeniable sportsmanship appeal to programming a computer that might kill you, however. 359462;1382751836;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00722 = 0.361 BTC [-] {2} 359463;1382751868;benkay;mega personal happiness penalties from programming in proprietary ladder logic though 359464;1382751942;asciilifeform;it beats xyz arms hooked up to winblows boxes. 359465;1382751958;benkay;comprable 359466;1382751981;benkay;the only upside to that gig was watching the shop operators grow more and more uncomfortable around me and my robots during my tenure 359467;1382752059;benkay;i would have enjoyed it more had i embraced my sadistic side earlier in life. 359468;1382752080;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 60 @ 0.00720016 = 0.432 BTC [-] {2} 359469;1382752337;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/mpoe-october-2013-statement/ 359470;1382752339;ozbot;MPOE, October 2013 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 359471;1382752364;mircea_popescu;meanwhile back at the ranch, "Michelle Obamas Princeton classmate is a top executive at the company that earned the contract to build the failed Obamacare website" 359472;1382752385;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 66 @ 0.00700777 = 0.4625 BTC [-] {4} 359473;1382753201;mircea_popescu;japan gets another 7.1 359474;1382753774;mircea_popescu;http://rt.com/usa/nsa-site-ddos-attack-754/ 359475;1382753940;dexX7;@AnonymousOwn3r << this guy is a joke 359476;1382753948;dexX7;it's a wonder that he is still on the nets 359477;1382754043;mircea_popescu;why ? nobody really goes after the jokers. 359478;1382754183;dexX7;hmhm.. i'm not sure what exactly the issue was, but do you remember when almost all godaddy related/hosted websites went black a year ago or so? 359479;1382754203;mircea_popescu;vaguely 359480;1382754211;dexX7;this was the time this guy popped up, claiming it was him, web news picked it up 359481;1382754238;dexX7;from that point on he claimed he was behind "everything" on the nets, but of course he wasn't 359482;1382754260;dexX7;people found his facebook account etc. where he was posting screenshots of his "operations" 359483;1382754276;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5239 @ 0.00082487 = 4.3215 BTC [-] 359484;1382754276;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.34 BTC [+] 359485;1382754337;mircea_popescu;hm. 359486;1382754341;dexX7;http://techcrunch.com/2012/09/10/godaddy-outage-takes-down-millions-of-sites/ 359487;1382754342;ozbot;GoDaddy Outage Takes Down Millions Of Sites, Anonymous Member Claims Responsibility | TechCrunch 359488;1382754365;mircea_popescu;anyway, im sure the twitter in question is being run by some teen having fun, otherwise unrelated to anything 359489;1382754389;dexX7;haha yea 359490;1382754530;bloctoc;go daddy down probably related to savetoby.com http://www.bobparsons.me/archive_article.php?entry_id=38 359491;1382754744;dexX7;A man claims to have found an injured, young rabbit under a porch one day, and then nursed it back to health. He then named the rabbit Toby. This individual swears that he will have Toby butchered and served for dinner on June 30, 2005, unless he is able to raise $50,000 in donations or merchandise sales. 359492;1382754822;KRS1;clever 359493;1382754827;KRS1;he'll probably get it too 359494;1382754933;bloctoc;The response from GoDaddy Founder: "I now own a SaveToby.com mouse pad" 359495;1382757265;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 6 @ 0.07467 = 0.448 BTC [+] 359496;1382757509;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 0.07468 = 0.1494 BTC [+] 359497;1382758180;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12800 @ 0.00082403 = 10.5476 BTC [-] {3} 359498;1382758607;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1892 @ 0.0024 = 4.5408 BTC [+] 359499;1382758608;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1827 @ 0.00082285 = 1.5033 BTC [-] 359500;1382758729;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4906 @ 0.00015999 = 0.7849 BTC [+] {2} 359501;1382758730;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1000 @ 0.00114799 = 1.148 BTC [+] 359502;1382759949;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6112 @ 0.0008224 = 5.0265 BTC [-] {2} 359503;1382759949;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 45 @ 0.00248999 = 0.112 BTC [+] 359504;1382760498;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2589 @ 0.00015903 = 0.4117 BTC [-] {2} 359505;1382761047;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1036 @ 0.00114799 = 1.1893 BTC [+] 359506;1382761230;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 7 @ 0.07467 = 0.5227 BTC [-] 359507;1382762328;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 600 @ 0.00114799 = 0.6888 BTC [+] 359508;1382762877;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 500 @ 0.00114799 = 0.574 BTC [+] 359509;1382765073;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12416 @ 0.00082662 = 10.2633 BTC [+] {3} 359510;1382768184;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.787 BTC [+] 359511;1382768306;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 35 @ 0.00748898 = 0.2621 BTC [-] 359512;1382768489;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00749 = 0.3745 BTC [+] 359513;1382768916;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 37 @ 0.00749999 = 0.2775 BTC [+] 359514;1382769038;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 298 @ 0.00759 = 2.2618 BTC [+] 359515;1382769039;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.16 BTC [-] 359516;1382769099;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.18 BTC [+] 359517;1382769587;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 130 @ 0.007681 = 0.9985 BTC [+] 359518;1382769831;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1008 @ 0.0024 = 2.4192 BTC [-] 359519;1382770258;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.787999 BTC [+] 359520;1382770746;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.00726101 = 0.1815 BTC [-] 359521;1382772332;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 261 @ 0.00114799 = 0.2996 BTC [+] 359522;1382772393;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00082616 = 2.9742 BTC [-] 359523;1382772454;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.761 BTC [-] 359524;1382772515;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.76 = 1.52 BTC [-] 359525;1382774406;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00082424 = 5.3576 BTC [-] {2} 359526;1382775265;jurov;$help 359527;1382775265;mpexbot;jurov: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. 359528;1382775275;jurov;$commands 359529;1382775322;jurov;anyone successfully placed a command to mpex in past 3 hours? 359530;1382775485;mod6;not me either... was about to test via dpaste. 359531;1382775491;jurov;$mpexlag 359532;1382775492;mpexbot;jurov: 0.117774009705 seconds 359533;1382775739;mod6;!mp http://dpaste.com/1430123/ 359534;1382775739;assbot;Processing. 359535;1382775740;assbot;Response: http://dpaste.com/1430125/plain/ 359536;1382775925;jurov;ic 359537;1382776846;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.00114799 = 0.1148 BTC [+] 359538;1382778676;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 0.07468999 = 0.2241 BTC [-] 359539;1382780811;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.34 = 1.02 BTC [+] 359540;1382781179;ASIVI__;test 359541;1382781533;kakobrekla;it works! 359542;1382781604;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5000 @ 0.00016 = 0.8 BTC [+] 359543;1382783021;kakobrekla;;;later tell mircea_popescu done 359544;1382783022;gribble;The operation succeeded. 359545;1382783171;VanCleef;how is mpex suppose to lag when nobdy uses it? 359546;1382783214;lurker;isn't mpex the fastest and fuck you bitch? must be the internet then! 359547;1382783739;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13286 @ 0.00082195 = 10.9204 BTC [-] {3} 359548;1382783976;mod6;hmm. I just checked again and I'm still unknown sig. 359549;1382784023;mod6;something strange is afoot 359550;1382784056;kakobrekla;yet theres some trading going on 359551;1382784073;kakobrekla;fake trade vol! 359552;1382784148;mod6;are you having no trouble executing orders or commands? 359553;1382784169;mod6;jurov and I were having the same issues. 359554;1382784174;mod6;s/were/are 359555;1382784175;kakobrekla;me too 359556;1382784177;mod6;ok 359557;1382788802;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69348300 BTC to 1`386`966 shares, 50 satoshi per share 359558;1382789387;turbo_ac100_;good pastebin? 359559;1382789473;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 124 @ 0.00248996 = 0.3088 BTC [+] 359560;1382789514;turbo_ac100_;nvm, using dpaste. 359561;1382789534;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 7174 @ 0.00249919 = 17.9292 BTC [+] {4} 359562;1382789595;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 542 @ 0.0025 = 1.355 BTC [+] {4} 359563;1382789717;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3233 @ 0.00082063 = 2.6531 BTC [-] 359564;1382793377;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8167 @ 0.00082063 = 6.7021 BTC [-] 359565;1382794780;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 499 @ 0.0074 = 3.6926 BTC [+] 359566;1382797708;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6427 @ 0.00081905 = 5.264 BTC [-] {2} 359567;1382798013;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 147 @ 0.00272 = 0.3998 BTC [+] 359568;1382798191;mike_c;can anybody do anything on mpex yet? i see trades on assbot, but nobody here seems to be able to talk to it (including me)? 359569;1382798209;kakobrekla;yeah i can ping it 359570;1382798233;mike_c;everything i get back from it seems to be invalidly signed 359571;1382798258;kakobrekla;Failing last since 2011, twice? 359572;1382798263;mike_c;heh 359573;1382798413;mike_c;er, not that its response is invalidly signed. it doesn't recognize me. (Unrecognized signature. Please email your public key first.) which seems to be same as you guys were seeing 4 hours ago 359574;1382798433;mike_c;who has mp's pager number? 359575;1382800731;pankkake;;;market sell 144000 359576;1382800732;gribble;A market order to sell 144000 bitcoins right now would net 14029024.4938 USD and would take the last price down to 23.3800 USD, resulting in an average price of 97.4238 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 81.6503 seconds 359577;1382800843;Diablo-D3;;;ticker 359578;1382800844;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 191.03000, Best ask: 192.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.97000, Last trade: 192.00000, 24 hour volume: 20318.37757498, 24 hour low: 177.21000, 24 hour high: 198.89000, 24 hour vwap: 189.57829 359579;1382801369;mike_c;its 174k now 359580;1382801377;mike_c;;;market sell 174000 359581;1382801379;gribble;A market order to sell 174000 bitcoins right now would net 14444712.8737 USD and would take the last price down to 10.2000 USD, resulting in an average price of 83.0156 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0072 seconds 359582;1382801392;mike_c;they might do it too :) 359583;1382801429;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.79 BTC [+] 359584;1382801934;mike_c;bitcoincharts api is down too 359585;1382801940;mike_c;http://api.bitcoincharts.com/v1/trades.csv?symbol=mtgoxUSD 359586;1382802205;mike_c;mpex is flaking out, bitcoincharts. what's next, btcjam starts having problems? 359587;1382802232;kakobrekla;i thought btcjam already had problems 359588;1382802241;pankkake;it's jammed? 359589;1382802267;kakobrekla;with strawberry jam 359590;1382802337;mike_c;btcjam is way easier than mpex. i can sign in with my facebook account. 359591;1382802344;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.79 = 2.37 BTC [+] 359592;1382802371;kakobrekla;not sure if srs or trolling 359593;1382802378;mike_c;hard to tell ;) 359594;1382802608;mircea_popescu;mike_c: 359595;1382802608;mircea_popescu;can anybody do anything on mpex yet? i see trades on assbot, but nobody here seems to be able to talk to it (including me)? << atm proxies are dumping most of the input because they can't agree its valid 359596;1382802612;mircea_popescu;being worked on 359597;1382802788;mike_c;k, thanks for update 359598;1382802875;mircea_popescu;jurov mod6 any of you want to try now ? 359599;1382803218;mircea_popescu;VanCleef you know, for a site that nobody uses i'm always surprised to see public channels notice any hickup a minute before or a minute after the tech people whose job it is. 359600;1382803442;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.81 BTC [+] 359601;1382803686;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5526 @ 0.0008051 = 4.449 BTC [-] {2} 359602;1382803747;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5836 @ 0.00080476 = 4.6966 BTC [-] {2} 359603;1382803965;[\];mircea_popescu: don't feed the trolls. 359604;1382803981;mircea_popescu;but i got all this spare food 359605;1382803991;[\];put it down the garbage disposal. 359606;1382803998;[\];It has the same equivalent. 359607;1382804206;KRS1;moar 359608;1382804469;mircea_popescu;$post MWhEZwxU 359609;1382804471;mpexbot;mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/PA4D1dGZ 359610;1382804481;mircea_popescu;i r insult. 359611;1382804601;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 129 @ 0.00754572 = 0.9734 BTC [+] {4} 359612;1382804662;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 190 @ 0.00769367 = 1.4618 BTC [+] {4} 359613;1382804723;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 19 @ 0.0077 = 0.1463 BTC [+] 359614;1382804845;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 0.074698 = 0.3735 BTC [+] {2} 359615;1382805028;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.32250572 = 2.2575 BTC [-] {4} 359616;1382805089;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.31332001 = 1.2533 BTC [-] {3} 359617;1382806126;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.0076999 = 0.154 BTC [-] 359618;1382806602;dexX7;mircea_popescu: did secondmarket ever contact you? 359619;1382806686;mircea_popescu;i don't recall on the spot. what would this be about ? 359620;1382806698;dexX7;secondmarket.com/fund/bitcoin-investment-trust 359621;1382806732;dexX7;i heard they are looking for people with many coins 359622;1382806744;dexX7;i was just curious :) 359623;1382806758;mircea_popescu;not afaik 359624;1382806766;mircea_popescu;also it looks scammy as all fuck, what the hell is that ? 359625;1382806777;dexX7;it's not a scam 359626;1382806786;mircea_popescu;how do you know this ? 359627;1382806807;VanCleef;bitcoin is a scam so yeh its a scam 359628;1382806824;dexX7;hm i don't know what it is exactly, but it's a plattform for accredited investors. afaik some big companies like twitter were "traded" there 359629;1382806829;mircea_popescu;no, i have specific things in mind. for instance, how come i can't find a name ion the about us page, 359630;1382806853;mircea_popescu;but instead find a sales pitch intended for people with a financial iq corresponding to about the age of 15 ? 359631;1382806865;mircea_popescu;and where's the finra etc regs. 359632;1382806886;dexX7;i don't know ;) 359633;1382806889;mircea_popescu;and what are all those llcs being held by incs i never heard about. 359634;1382806903;mircea_popescu;so yeah. now you know kinda how the mental process goes. 359635;1382806939;mircea_popescu;and as far as to the "were traded there" : i can put up a website tomorrow which claims to be trading your mom. this does not imply anything about the actual lady's probity. 359636;1382806964;mircea_popescu;it just means some kid with a html editor was bored 359637;1382806969;dexX7;i'm just saying what i read and i have no reason to believe that it's not true 359638;1382806999;dexX7;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SecondMarket 359639;1382807047;mircea_popescu;no, see, this is the problem. you don;'t start by believing what you read is true, 359640;1382807053;mircea_popescu;you start by believing what you read is false. 359641;1382807062;mircea_popescu;this isn't school. 359642;1382807114;dexX7;fine, but how do i verify something then? 359643;1382807128;mircea_popescu;well that's where it gets complicated. give an actual example. 359644;1382807129;VanCleef;mp will verify it for you 359645;1382807139;mircea_popescu;lol that only works if you trust me. 359646;1382807147;VanCleef;i only trust mp 359647;1382807153;dexX7;i can't trust what i read, so i can't trust mp obviously :p 359648;1382807199;mircea_popescu;but i said "start". 359649;1382807205;Kleeck_;ROFL. 359650;1382807211;Kleeck_;THis is hilarious. 359651;1382807243;Kleeck_;TIL Secondmarket was written by "some kid with an html editor" 359652;1382807245;Kleeck_;http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2011/03/10/beyond-facebook-secondmarket-opens-its-doors-to-thousands/ 359653;1382807273;Kleeck_;It's a well known alt market. 359654;1382807428;mircea_popescu;not secondmarket dood. 359655;1382807431;mircea_popescu;some fund 359656;1382807469;Kleeck_;Their ETF? 359657;1382807469;zoinky;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SecondMarket 359658;1382807489;mircea_popescu;it's their etf ? 359659;1382807493;Kleeck_;Yes. 359660;1382807509;mircea_popescu;dude i gotta relook at this site now. 359661;1382807510;Kleeck_;Similar to the winklevi, but without the need for SEC approval. 359662;1382807521;Kleeck_;Because it's limited to accredited investors only. 359663;1382807536;Kleeck_;I read an article about it a month or two ago 359664;1382807538;Kleeck_;I'll find it. 359665;1382807539;zoinky;secondmarket did privates stock for groupon, facebook and twitter 359666;1382807542;zoinky;before they went public 359667;1382807544;mircea_popescu;$25K 359668;1382807545;mircea_popescu;Min. Investment 359669;1382807545;mircea_popescu;332 359670;1382807545;mircea_popescu;Days Left 359671;1382807559;Kleeck_;Here it is: http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2013/09/26/the-bitcoin-bug-bites-secondmarket/ 359672;1382807564;mircea_popescu;seems to me it's some random item on their platform anyone could have created, much like the other "open platforms" of the sort 359673;1382807577;Kleeck_;Yeah. It's not for your everyday Joe. That's what the Winklevii are trying. 359674;1382807590;pankkake;zoinky> secondmarket did privates stock for groupon, facebook and twitter <= so, scams 359675;1382807597;Kleeck_;ROFL 359676;1382807604;zoinky;i guess so 359677;1382807607;Kleeck_;YES! The "scam" label has reached an all time low. 359678;1382807607;zoinky;scams rule the world 359679;1382807665;pankkake;companies who have no intention to make their investors richer would be a more explicit label ;) 359680;1382807669;mircea_popescu;well what can i tell you. yes silbert is well known, no we've not talked, yes that fund looks dubious to me. 359681;1382807710;mircea_popescu;i guess judging by the site is a superficial approach to life. 359682;1382807724;Kleeck_;Sometimes I don't read book because the cover looks like shit. 359683;1382807771;pankkake;people judge mpex by its appearance 359684;1382807793;mircea_popescu;Kleeck_ i do that all the motherfucking time. i am fortunate to have people who love/hate me enough to insist on the topic. 359685;1382807803;Kleeck_;^ 359686;1382807816;mircea_popescu;in fact, i did *the exact same thing* about bitcoin, it took commebnters on my blog ~3 months to get me to look again 359687;1382807834;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.8099 BTC [-] 359688;1382807837;Kleeck_;It help to have a circle of intelligent people that you respect. 359689;1382807854;Kleeck_;And who can be challenged and challenge you. 359690;1382807895;Kleeck_;Then when you say, "That's bullshit." They say, "No it isn't... Look at this!" 359691;1382807907;mircea_popescu;o, people love to challenge me. because i'm such a snotty asshole see ? 359692;1382807910;mircea_popescu;works out. 359693;1382807916;Kleeck_;:) 359694;1382808017;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 992 @ 0.00788625 = 7.8232 BTC [+] {12} 359695;1382808139;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 174 @ 0.00262074 = 0.456 BTC [-] {4} 359696;1382808323;mircea_popescu;(also, fb IS a motherfucking scam. not at all in the same sense, of course) 359697;1382808577;dexX7;next question: people on reddit say theymos is a scammer, why? 359698;1382808597;mircea_popescu;well, better question would be "why this time" i think 359699;1382808617;mircea_popescu;at some point they were incensed about his reading pms on the forum, earlier about his poor manageemnt of forum donations, 359700;1382808636;mircea_popescu;earlier about his promiting pirate, earluier about his glbse stock dealings, 359701;1382808639;mircea_popescu;it's a list 359702;1382808666;dexX7;yeah, "this time" is about pirate again 359703;1382808671;dexX7;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1p4shj/founder_reflects_on_the_closure_of_bitcoin_stock/ccyz2c4 359704;1382808672;ozbot;theymos comments on Founder reflects on the closure of Bitcoin stock exchange GLBSE 359705;1382808672;mircea_popescu;a ok. many of these recur. 359706;1382808743;mircea_popescu;anyway, you're too new to know, but the way glbse croaked was like this : theymos announced a private sale of his glbse stock (+ some aussie scammer's) 359707;1382808752;mircea_popescu;a week later glbse just closed 359708;1382808768;mircea_popescu;the girl accused him of insider dealing, he swore he didn't have a clue wtf nefario was doing 359709;1382808781;mircea_popescu;the matter was dropped, as i believed him, 359710;1382808782;dexX7;was this before or after the "internal shareholder discussion2ß 359711;1382808789;mircea_popescu;but it left a lot of animosity between them 359712;1382808799;mircea_popescu;this was just about at that time 359713;1382808816;dexX7;ah okay 359714;1382809071;dexX7;i remember very vague that many had "bitcoin doesn't care about the sec" or so in their signatures. was this after glbse? 359715;1382809075;mircea_popescu;also, re the earlier discussion : sm is a marketplace for illiquid assets. it's not that it just magically gets past the hoops winklevoss have to jump through, it's a very specific thing 359716;1382809087;mircea_popescu;lest some bright young mind reads the log and gets confused. 359717;1382809101;mircea_popescu;right after. 359718;1382809176;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 431 @ 0.00114799 = 0.4948 BTC [+] 359719;1382809198;zoinky;http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1588489/000158848913000001/xslFormDX01/primary_doc.xml 359720;1382809201;mircea_popescu;dexX7 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=115693.msg1249126#msg1249126 359721;1382809206;zoinky;originally had 4 investors 359722;1382809215;zoinky;wonder how the next quarterly report will look 359723;1382809266;dexX7;haha nice, i think i stumbled upon this topic last year 359724;1382809268;mircea_popescu;pooled > other > not 40 359725;1382809337;dexX7;well, they are already looking for investors as it seems. i filled out the "i'm interested form" and promptly received a mail with a request for a telephone call 359726;1382809360;dexX7;Total Amount Sold $2,542,818 USD 359727;1382809372;mircea_popescu;i don't think they're doing anything bad, and heck, bitcoin can benefit from the attention of more people with financial expertise 359728;1382809376;mircea_popescu;which these guys have 359729;1382809378;mircea_popescu;so, good for them 359730;1382809383;zoinky;exactly 359731;1382809392;mircea_popescu;dexX7 that' 359732;1382809399;mircea_popescu;s as of the time of filing, and they're unlimited. 359733;1382809400;zoinky;helps break through to larger more traditional financial areas 359734;1382809406;jurov;Mpex still not working? 359735;1382809412;mircea_popescu;jurov working on it. 359736;1382809426;mircea_popescu;if you have an emergency pm 359737;1382809470;dexX7;"failing last since 2011" should be corrected then, i guess :p 359738;1382809481;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5005 @ 0.00080528 = 4.0304 BTC [+] 359739;1382809500;kakobrekla;hey i have an emergency 359740;1382809505;kakobrekla;im out of milk. 359741;1382809609;jurov;No emergency, just am away for whole day, getting alerts, wondering wtf is happening. 359742;1382809652;jurov;Ok, checking off, later. 359743;1382809807;mircea_popescu;dexX7 haven't quite failed yet tyvm 359744;1382809839;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla http://www.peopleamazeme.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/PeopleAmazeMe_com-milk-sexy-babe-woman-oreo-hot-wet.jpg 359745;1382809846;mircea_popescu;just for you. i think she's slovenian. 359746;1382809915;kakobrekla;maybe, dirty enough, thats for sure. 359747;1382810128;mircea_popescu;lol 359748;1382810884;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.81 = 3.24 BTC [+] 359749;1382811147;VanCleef;anyone into giving birth porn? 359750;1382811258;mircea_popescu;that's porn !? 359751;1382811327;asciilifeform;VanCleef: how's that work? 'see this astounding reverse penetration!' ? 359752;1382811340;pankkake;you're surprised something is porn? 359753;1382811361;VanCleef;a woman gives birth, and a guy comes in and does her 359754;1382811373;asciilifeform;VanCleef: before? after? during? 359755;1382811378;VanCleef;some real underground german shit 359756;1382811396;pankkake;or fuck the baby and the mom! 359757;1382811399;mircea_popescu;ow. 359758;1382811440;mircea_popescu;today on tap, "postpartum and parenteral gangbang, dual penetration and bukkakke. come one, come all!" 359759;1382811479;pankkake;http://headfucking.net/headfucking.mpg btw 359760;1382811677;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3539 @ 0.00080483 = 2.8483 BTC [-] {2} 359761;1382811921;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.81 BTC [+] 359762;1382813080;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.0079 = 0.1975 BTC [+] 359763;1382813116;nubbins`;hi 359764;1382813263;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 58 @ 0.008 = 0.464 BTC [+] 359765;1382813446;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8242 @ 0.00080087 = 6.6008 BTC [-] {2} 359766;1382813747;nubbins`;http://imgur.com/hR77muQ 359767;1382813747;ozbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 359768;1382813753;nubbins`;all ready for halloween :0 359769;1382813809;mircea_popescu;you look like a dork 359770;1382813885;nubbins`;yep 359771;1382813889;nubbins`;pascale's is way cooler 359772;1382813899;nubbins`;http://imgur.com/LuwYXfs 359773;1382813899;ozbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 359774;1382814004;mircea_popescu;ha! 359775;1382814012;mircea_popescu;pretty cool. who's that ? 359776;1382814027;nubbins`;just some random 70's cop 359777;1382814031;mircea_popescu;ah 359778;1382814038;nubbins`;she was going for a beastie boys "sabotage" kinda look 359779;1382814052;mircea_popescu;yeah, even the tie. 359780;1382814126;nubbins`;little bit less obscure than last year's costume of the 2 characters from a short film "umshini wam" 359781;1382814137;nubbins`;which, if you're into odd things, is worth watching 359782;1382814183;nubbins`;(http://www.wefearchange.com/wp-content/uploads/dieharmony.jpg) 359783;1382814239;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.85 = 1.7 BTC [+] 359784;1382815154;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 19 @ 0.86945156 = 16.5196 BTC [+] {5} 359785;1382815337;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 5457 @ 0.00227336 = 12.4057 BTC [-] {22} 359786;1382815398;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2135 @ 0.002 = 4.27 BTC [-] {2} 359787;1382815459;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.81100001 = 1.622 BTC [-] 359788;1382815764;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 21 @ 0.82 = 17.22 BTC [+] 359789;1382816496;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.00273609 = 2.7361 BTC [+] {5} 359790;1382816580;jurov;.bait 359791;1382816581;ozbot;http://24.media.tumblr.com/51afc7dbdbb57beacbbb88d88c0a8a84/tumblr_msthjhyh961rhwe3do1_400.gif 359792;1382816602;jurov;dat 359793;1382816801;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.85 = 17 BTC [+] 359794;1382816862;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.87499999 = 7.875 BTC [+] {2} 359795;1382816874;pankkake;nice 359796;1382816917;KRS1;Something told me to come over here and click that 359797;1382816923;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.875 = 5.25 BTC [+] {2} 359798;1382816971;KRS1;nubbins: oh shit ZEF style 359799;1382817129;turbo_ac100_;dieharmony.jpg That's Die Antwoord https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_pS46YRMIQ I didn't know there is a movie! 359800;1382817134;KRS1;My fav song/video they did is BABY'S ON FIRE. Fatty Boom Boom aint bad either 359801;1382817233;KRS1;he's good at BEAT BOX 359802;1382817303;KRS1;something is just...off...with that girl..idk wtf it is though. 359803;1382817376;turbo_ac100_;lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=f1KbfFdUTQ4#t=121 "If you don't like funerals don't kick sand into a ninjas' face" 359804;1382817838;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 63 @ 0.00273898 = 0.1726 BTC [+] {2} 359805;1382818265;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 144 @ 0.00114785 = 0.1653 BTC [-] 359806;1382818871;dexX7;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=312830.msg3417014#msg3417014 359807;1382818873;ozbot;[CRYPTOSTOCKS] Labcoin Official Thread - Self-Moderated 359808;1382819058;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00273896 = 0.2739 BTC [+] 359809;1382819119;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.00114799 = 0.1148 BTC [+] 359810;1382819363;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.85 BTC [-] 359811;1382819364;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.00770005 = 0.308 BTC [-] 359812;1382819485;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.85 = 1.7 BTC [-] 359813;1382819617;pankkake;http://c4ss.org/content/22005 359814;1382819618;ozbot;Center for a Stateless Society » Internet Security Is Our Responsibility 359815;1382819729;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 65 @ 0.0082 = 0.533 BTC [+] 359816;1382820400;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.002555 = 0.511 BTC [-] 359817;1382820705;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 0.07459999 = 0.1492 BTC [-] 359818;1382821010;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.8301 BTC [-] 359819;1382821071;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 465 @ 0.00770001 = 3.5805 BTC [-] {3} 359820;1382821133;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.88 BTC [+] 359821;1382821986;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.88 BTC [+] 359822;1382822901;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.88 = 1.76 BTC [+] 359823;1382822963;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 8 @ 0.0746 = 0.5968 BTC [+] 359824;1382823023;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.88898998 = 2.667 BTC [+] 359825;1382823206;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1000 @ 0.00114799 = 1.148 BTC [+] 359826;1382823267;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1000 @ 0.00114799 = 1.148 BTC [+] 359827;1382823268;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 0.0746 = 0.1492 BTC [+] 359828;1382823269;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.33999999 BTC [+] 359829;1382823270;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.88899 = 2.667 BTC [+] 359830;1382823271;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 140 @ 0.0082 = 1.148 BTC [+] 359831;1382823328;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.33999999 = 1.36 BTC [+] 359832;1382823329;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 293 @ 0.00273893 = 0.8025 BTC [+] 359833;1382823450;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.88899 BTC [+] 359834;1382823512;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.89000001 = 1.78 BTC [+] 359835;1382823572;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 300 @ 0.00842577 = 2.5277 BTC [+] {5} 359836;1382823694;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.89 BTC [-] 359837;1382824426;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 2000 @ 0.00114799 = 2.296 BTC [+] {2} 359838;1382824731;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 871 @ 0.00114799 = 0.9999 BTC [+] 359839;1382824732;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 87 @ 0.00845 = 0.7352 BTC [+] 359840;1382825036;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00853046 = 0.853 BTC [+] {4} 359841;1382825463;assbot;[MPEX] [TEST] 987654321 @ 1.23456789 = 1219326311.1264 BTC 359842;1382825558;dexX7;x_x 359843;1382825769;mircea_popescu;infinite monyz 359844;1382826012;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00273895 = 0.5478 BTC [+] 359845;1382826500;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 108 @ 0.00114785 = 0.124 BTC [-] 359846;1382826524;jurov;the TEST is not in rss 359847;1382826554;mircea_popescu;it wouldn't be, it just tests assbot. 359848;1382826610;jurov;will be any change required, or can i go afk? 359849;1382826639;mircea_popescu;jurov nah, go relax, by the time you're back everything should be fine. 359850;1382826664;jurov;*thumbs up* 359851;1382827964;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.00826198 = 0.3305 BTC [-] {3} 359852;1382828147;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 295 @ 0.00273865 = 0.8079 BTC [-] {2} 359853;1382829031;skinnkavaj;(01:05:58)  -› Quit: virtuals_mr (~virtuals_@85-156-3-230.elisa-mobile.fi) (Quit: labcoin shares best xmas present ever get them at cryptostocks.com) 359854;1382829032;skinnkavaj;xD 359855;1382829184;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.177 BTC [-] 359856;1382829245;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.00114784 = 0.1148 BTC [-] 359857;1382829672;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.0011478 = 0.1148 BTC [-] 359858;1382829733;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 14 @ 0.97339285 = 13.6275 BTC [+] {5} 359859;1382829916;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.00854998 = 0.2137 BTC [+] {2} 359860;1382830038;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 79 @ 0.00854998 = 0.6754 BTC [+] {3} 359861;1382830100;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.000168 = 0.168 BTC [+] 359862;1382830160;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.0027 = 0.27 BTC [-] 359863;1382830282;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 0.0746999 = 0.2988 BTC [+] 359864;1382830343;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 89 @ 0.00114784 = 0.1022 BTC [+] 359865;1382830648;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.995 = 1.99 BTC [+] {2} 359866;1382830770;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 1 BTC [+] 359867;1382830831;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 1.06 BTC [+] 359868;1382831075;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.93000006 = 1.86 BTC [-] 359869;1382831441;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.938775 = 7.5102 BTC [+] {5} 359870;1382831502;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.93 = 2.79 BTC [-] 359871;1382831627;mircea_popescu;http://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/3129759496251093@naggum.no.html 359872;1382831628;ozbot;Re: A draft business plan for free software LISP vendors - Naggum cll archive 359873;1382832234;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.00887544 = 1.7751 BTC [+] {5} 359874;1382834064;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 203 @ 0.00114784 = 0.233 BTC [+] 359875;1382834735;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.00888797 = 1.7776 BTC [+] {2} 359876;1382834857;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 4 @ 0.177 = 0.708 BTC [-] 359877;1382835589;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.93 = 4.65 BTC [-] 359878;1382835701;thestringpuller;kakobrekla: why is bitcoin-assets.com down? 359879;1382835708;thestringpuller;nvm 359880;1382836443;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.9221 = 18.442 BTC [-] {4} 359881;1382836565;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.92 = 3.68 BTC [-] {3} 359882;1382836626;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.177 BTC [-] 359883;1382837114;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 446 @ 0.00273996 = 1.222 BTC [+] 359884;1382837698;KRS1;you could always join #bitcoin-ass 359885;1382837916;thestringpuller;;;seen mod6 359886;1382837916;gribble;mod6 was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 14 hours, 55 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: <mod6> ok 359887;1382838273;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.91 = 4.55 BTC [-] {3} 359888;1382838517;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.91 = 2.73 BTC [-] 359889;1382840774;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.901 BTC [-] 359890;1382841076;mod6;werd up 359891;1382841141;mod6;watcha been up to thestringpuller? 359892;1382841445;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 0.0747 = 0.3735 BTC [+] 359893;1382841628;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 672 @ 0.00114 = 0.7661 BTC [+] 359894;1382841933;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 16 @ 0.07499974 = 1.2 BTC [+] {2} 359895;1382843519;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 51 @ 0.008877 = 0.4527 BTC [-] 359896;1382845837;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.92 BTC [+] 359897;1382846081;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.177 BTC [-] 359898;1382846203;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 0.075 = 0.3 BTC [+] 359899;1382846264;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 375 @ 0.00114 = 0.4275 BTC [+] 359900;1382847179;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.92024 BTC [+] 359901;1382847240;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.91 BTC [-] 359902;1382847362;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.9 = 4.5 BTC [-] {2} 359903;1382847484;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 3800 @ 0.00114 = 4.332 BTC [+] {2} 359904;1382847486;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 0.075 = 0.375 BTC [+] 359905;1382847545;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 42 @ 0.00830003 = 0.3486 BTC [-] {2} 359906;1382847606;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 162 @ 0.0082753 = 1.3406 BTC [-] {3} 359907;1382847667;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 28 @ 0.00824578 = 0.2309 BTC [-] {3} 359908;1382847728;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.008199 = 0.246 BTC [-] 359909;1382847911;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 65 @ 0.008199 = 0.5329 BTC [-] 359910;1382851510;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 129 @ 0.0078186 = 1.0086 BTC [+] {4} 359911;1382852730;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 4 @ 0.177 = 0.708 BTC [-] 359912;1382854072;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 116 @ 0.00848911 = 0.9847 BTC [+] {5} 359913;1382854743;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 683 @ 0.00080312 = 0.5485 BTC [+] 359914;1382856076;smidge;;;market sell 10000 359915;1382856078;gribble;A market order to sell 10000 bitcoins right now would net 1806239.1519 USD and would take the last price down to 176.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 180.6239 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0006 seconds 359916;1382856085;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 137 @ 0.00273389 = 0.3745 BTC [-] 359917;1382856088;smidge;;;market buy 5000 359918;1382856088;gribble;A market order to buy 5000 bitcoins right now would take 1003947.2508 USD and would take the last price up to 205.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 200.7895 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 10.2006 seconds 359919;1382856634;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.00273389 = 1.3669 BTC [-] 359920;1382857793;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 83 @ 0.00273389 = 0.2269 BTC [-] 359921;1382859745;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.94 BTC [+] 359922;1382860660;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.949969 BTC [+] 359923;1382860721;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.949969 BTC [+] 359924;1382860843;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.95999999 = 1.92 BTC [+] 359925;1382860904;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.95999999 = 1.92 BTC [+] 359926;1382860965;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.96 = 1.92 BTC [+] 359927;1382862307;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 440 @ 0.00863023 = 3.7973 BTC [+] {5} 359928;1382862368;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 19 @ 0.00879999 = 0.1672 BTC [+] {2} 359929;1382863405;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 220 @ 0.0088 = 1.936 BTC [+] 359930;1382864564;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 341 @ 0.0088 = 3.0008 BTC [+] 359931;1382865845;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.0008 = 4.72 BTC [-] 359932;1382866261;pankkake;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=319567.0 359933;1382866276;kakobrekla;morning 359934;1382866308;ozbot;Successful vs unsuccessful bitcoin securities 359935;1382866518;kakobrekla;i guess there arent that many that netted more 359936;1382866530;kakobrekla;but thats normal 359937;1382870176;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 19 @ 0.00825789 = 0.1569 BTC [-] {2} 359938;1382870542;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 86 @ 0.00825 = 0.7095 BTC [-] 359939;1382871213;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00273388 = 0.5468 BTC [-] 359940;1382872556;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 25 @ 0.00779 = 0.1948 BTC [-] 359941;1382872799;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.00114784 = 0.1148 BTC [+] 359942;1382873042;FabianB_;hm. mpex still not working properly 359943;1382873287;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5550 @ 0.0008031 = 4.4572 BTC [+] {2} 359944;1382875117;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00080418 = 3.8601 BTC [+] {2} 359945;1382875239;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69348300 BTC to 1`386`966 shares, 50 satoshi per share 359946;1382875912;thestringpuller;!ticker m s.mpoe 359947;1382875912;assbot;[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.0008 / 0.000808 / 0.00082063 (62908 shares, 50.83 BTC), 7D: 0.0008 / 0.00084133 / 0.00089392 (975212 shares, 820.48 BTC), 30D: 0.0007725 / 0.00084848 / 0.00094023 (3400403 shares, 2,885.20 BTC) 359948;1382876825;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.95888889 BTC [-] 359949;1382877008;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3855 @ 0.00079843 = 3.0779 BTC [-] {2} 359950;1382879021;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 13 @ 0.008 = 0.104 BTC [-] 359951;1382879815;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.94999999 BTC [-] 359952;1382879816;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 16 @ 0.00779 = 0.1246 BTC [-] 359953;1382879875;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 69 @ 0.0077999 = 0.5382 BTC [+] {2} 359954;1382879938;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 75 @ 0.00273388 = 0.205 BTC [-] 359955;1382879997;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 17 @ 0.00878 = 0.1493 BTC [+] {2} 359956;1382880058;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.177 = 0.531 BTC [-] 359957;1382880119;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.178 = 0.356 BTC [+] 359958;1382880241;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 0.075 = 0.225 BTC [+] 359959;1382881339;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 38 @ 0.00878 = 0.3336 BTC [-] 359960;1382881340;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.901 BTC [-] 359961;1382881400;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 98 @ 0.0011121 = 0.109 BTC [-] 359962;1382882254;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.85373334 = 2.5612 BTC [-] {2} 359963;1382882925;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 24 @ 0.851925 = 20.4462 BTC [-] {3} 359964;1382883230;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.82651099 = 8.2651 BTC [-] {5} 359965;1382883291;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.800003 = 8 BTC [-] {2} 359966;1382883352;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.8 = 5.6 BTC [-] {2} 359967;1382883413;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.80001 = 5.6001 BTC [+] 359968;1382883535;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.1775 = 0.5325 BTC [-] 359969;1382884291;FabianB_;yay, mpex stat works again :D 359970;1382884336;ThickAsThieves;sweet 359971;1382884707;mircea_popescu;sorry for teh delay. the problem with this sort of shit is once the slightest not-working-as-expected thing pops swaths of things have to now be checked 359972;1382884723;mircea_popescu;even if you know why and what happened, or at any rate think so. 359973;1382884865;FabianB_;np for ppl here having some kind of updates i guess 359974;1382884902;mircea_popescu;to be honest irc is the best news channel i've ever seen 359975;1382884915;FabianB_;wondering how users not hanging around here see things 359976;1382884927;FabianB_;indeed, irc has always been best 359977;1382884928;mircea_popescu;well... inasmuch as not hanging around is a choice... 359978;1382884958;mircea_popescu;i would imagine they see them in the log or don't care or something tailored to personal taste 359979;1382885022;FabianB_;yeah, i wouldn't trade on mpex without being here or checking logs once in a while 359980;1382885075;mircea_popescu;anyway, it wasn't an attack of any sort or even related to outside influence. it was a problem stemming from the too stringent checking imposed on proxy synchronization after the last adventure, which in an edge case put everything in a paranoid state. 359981;1382885100;mircea_popescu;shouldn't happen again, at least not in exactly the same way. 359982;1382885127;FabianB_;mircea_popescu: can you disclose info on whether there was one (or 1% of users) that could still trade? 359983;1382885148;mircea_popescu;anyone had a maybe 1 in >1k tries chance to trade 359984;1382885162;mircea_popescu;kinda hard to calculate the >1k exactly 359985;1382885185;FabianB_;ah, that's y, so probably bots that tried continueously made those rare trades 359986;1382885246;mircea_popescu;i think so 359987;1382885271;ThickAsThieves;so it wasnt the fake volume bot? 359988;1382885273;mircea_popescu;ironically, actual orders had somewhat better chances to get through than stats i think 359989;1382885274;ThickAsThieves;;) 359990;1382885300;FabianB_;heh 359991;1382885300;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves or that, yeah. 359992;1382885500;FabianB_;it's more of a depth bot, not volume, isn't it? 359993;1382885614;mircea_popescu;o, mpoe bot has a different interface to the trade engine, it can't be affected by this stuff 359994;1382885792;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 10 @ 0.075 = 0.75 BTC [+] 359995;1382886049;FabianB_;i think ThickAsThieves didn't mean mpoe bot, since it doesn't trade s.mpoe, does it? 359996;1382886168;kakobrekla;tat ment the fake vol bot 359997;1382886171;kakobrekla;code stolen from btctc 359998;1382886615;ThickAsThieves;mp is just saying yeah, the btct-tm-fake-volume-bot does indeed have special access to trade 359999;1382887073;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.32 BTC [-] 360000;1382887622;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 108 @ 0.00788189 = 0.8512 BTC [-] {4} 360001;1382887683;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 56 @ 0.007881 = 0.4413 BTC [-] {2} 360002;1382887964;mircea_popescu;wait wut 360003;1382888005;ThickAsThieves;hehe 360004;1382888171;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00081211 = 2.0303 BTC [+] 360005;1382888354;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4632 @ 0.0008123 = 3.7626 BTC [+] 360006;1382888500;KRS1;;;sell 398.98 360007;1382888500;gribble;(sell <amount> <thing> [at|@] <priceperunit> <otherthing> [<notes>]) -- Logs a sell order for <amount> units of <thing, at a price of <price> per unit, in units of <otherthing>. Use the optional <notes> field to put in any special notes. <price> may include an arithmetical expression, and {(mtgox|bitstamp)(ask|bid|last|high|low|avg)} to index price to mtgox ask, bid, last, high, low, or avg (1 more message) 360008;1382888509;KRS1;;;sell 398.98 @ 178 360009;1382888509;gribble;(sell <amount> <thing> [at|@] <priceperunit> <otherthing> [<notes>]) -- Logs a sell order for <amount> units of <thing, at a price of <price> per unit, in units of <otherthing>. Use the optional <notes> field to put in any special notes. <price> may include an arithmetical expression, and {(mtgox|bitstamp)(ask|bid|last|high|low|avg)} to index price to mtgox ask, bid, last, high, low, or avg (1 more message) 360010;1382888612;KRS1;;;market sell 398.98 360011;1382888613;gribble;A market order to sell 398.98 bitcoins right now would net 77128.6747 USD and would take the last price down to 192.2200 USD, resulting in an average price of 193.3146 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0001 seconds 360012;1382889415;jurov;lmao <ThickAsThieves> [15:10:16] mp is just saying yeah, the btct-tm-fake-volume-bot does indeed have special access to trade 360013;1382889544;jurov;;;bc,stats 360014;1382889546;gribble;Current Blocks: 266390 | Current Difficulty: 3.9092878763808584E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 268127 | Next Difficulty In: 1737 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 22 hours, 13 minutes, and 1 second | Next Difficulty Estimate: 483913456.849 | Estimated Percent Change: 23.78558 360015;1382889916;mircea_popescu;still over 20% 360016;1382890672;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0084999 = 0.85 BTC [+] {3} 360017;1382890916;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 413 @ 0.00810267 = 3.3464 BTC [-] {7} 360018;1382890977;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 48 @ 0.0081 = 0.3888 BTC [-] 360019;1382891160;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 52 @ 0.00800001 = 0.416 BTC [-] 360020;1382891221;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 97 @ 0.008 = 0.776 BTC [-] {2} 360021;1382891343;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 57 @ 0.008 = 0.456 BTC [-] 360022;1382891601;dexX7;mircea_popescu: probably too soon to ask, but is there any eta for the nsa/gpg token? 360023;1382891770;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.86999999 = 3.48 BTC [+] {2} 360024;1382891831;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 24 @ 0.87187498 = 20.925 BTC [+] {6} 360025;1382891892;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.87 = 2.61 BTC [-] 360026;1382892236;darby;hi 360027;1382892251;KRS1;hi 360028;1382892379;kakobrekla;hi 360029;1382892380;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 535 @ 0.00829993 = 4.4405 BTC [+] {5} 360030;1382892400;jurov;he 360031;1382892410;kakobrekla;ccccombo breaker. 360032;1382892422;darby;kakobrekla sent me here 360033;1382892433;kakobrekla;he did? 360034;1382892441;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 52 @ 0.0083 = 0.4316 BTC [+] {2} 360035;1382892456;kakobrekla;what an outrage. 360036;1382892465;darby;indeed 360037;1382892491;kakobrekla;o, you must be the guy from donna forum? 360038;1382892502;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 87 @ 0.0083 = 0.7221 BTC [+] 360039;1382892510;darby;the ONLY professional BC chan :) 360040;1382892526;kakobrekla;well what, its true, sadly 360041;1382892563;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 27 @ 0.008433 = 0.2277 BTC [+] 360042;1382892573;kakobrekla;if anything relevant is happening in btc finance 360043;1382892578;kakobrekla;you will prolly find it here 360044;1382892615;darby;a lot more people than i would've expected 360045;1382892654;darby;dyu guys actively trade or just follow the market 360046;1382892657;kakobrekla;well theres even more people in #bitcoin-otc 360047;1382892658;ThickAsThieves;the smart ones dont say anything 360048;1382892662;kakobrekla;which is over the counter irc chan 360049;1382892672;kakobrekla;but most of people here cant stand it there 360050;1382892674;kakobrekla;including me 360051;1382892700;jurov;yea, we are all scammers and slanderous solus 360052;1382892701;kakobrekla;cause its just a bunch of newbs trading 5$ worth back and forward 360053;1382892702;jurov;*souls 360054;1382892707;kakobrekla;lol fu jurov. 360055;1382892723;darby;i see 360056;1382892746;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.31392857 = 2.1975 BTC [-] {3} 360057;1382892747;kakobrekla;ThickAsThieves, this is not the case here though. 360058;1382892775;mircea_popescu;dexX7 not too soon, the target still is before xmas 360059;1382892781;mircea_popescu;so ppl can give ppl cryptolove 360060;1382892792;dexX7;well, before xmas is pretty soon imho 360061;1382892819;mircea_popescu;imho too. 360062;1382892828;mircea_popescu;but what else are engineers for, if not whipping and abuse ? 360063;1382892829;jurov;will cardano include a kit for hiding it in body cavities? 360064;1382892859;mircea_popescu;jurov i think the only body cavity able to hide it would be a well worked vagina, the sort pankkake favours 360065;1382892883;pankkake;I prefer mouths personally 360066;1382892885;jurov;so i should get a gf to be able to hide it securely? 360067;1382892887;kakobrekla;anywho, darby, make yourself cosy, bring some cookies and lurk around is my suggestion, you can also go through the log if you are borred 360068;1382892908;darby;ty 360069;1382892924;mircea_popescu;jurov seriously, atm the form factor is roughly the size of a smartphone 360070;1382892952;kakobrekla;darby, ill be back in ~30min if you want to talk about anything specific. 360071;1382892956;kakobrekla;later 360072;1382892997;darby;cu 360073;1382893059;jurov;well, that gives me a pause... iirc it is not supposed to house very valuable gpg keys such as mpex accts, cuz no backup and it's too easy to erase 360074;1382893102;jurov;but half a smartphone isn't very convenient to keep on myself all the time (for disposable communication-related keys and protection from unauthorized use) 360075;1382893295;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 38 @ 0.00801578 = 0.3046 BTC [-] {3} 360076;1382893458;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/badbios-aka-badlydonedamagecontrol/ 360077;1382893459;ozbot;#BadBios, aka #BadlyDoneDamageControl pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 360078;1382893494;mircea_popescu;jurov when this prototyping started it was the size of a breadbox 360079;1382893904;pankkake;#TooMuchHashtags 360080;1382893966;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1314 @ 0.00015003 = 0.1971 BTC [-] {4} 360081;1382893967;mike_c;just keep it in your purse jurov 360082;1382894069;pankkake;a man purse 360083;1382894101;pankkake;it's european! 360084;1382894181;mike_c;hehe. metrosexual is as fashionable as gpg. 360085;1382894293;jurov;hey, it's waterproof and with tinfoil added! 360086;1382894457;jurov;in short, i hope cardano becomes inconspicuous neck-wearable gizmo in next incarnation 360087;1382894562;mircea_popescu;lol 360088;1382894574;mircea_popescu;jurov make sure it contains a vaporiser 360089;1382894577;mircea_popescu;for to sauna the cardano 360090;1382894992;kakobrekla;more for memory imparment program on the cardano 360091;1382895164;kakobrekla;also, knock knock: http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/ab5rNA9_460sa.gif 360092;1382895191;Kleeck_;whoa. 360093;1382895208;Kleeck_;whoa constrictor. 360094;1382895239;mircea_popescu;ahahahah 360095;1382896392;mike_c;mpex sysadmins are having a bad week. 360096;1382896601;jurov;mircea_popescu: seems down again 360097;1382896625;mircea_popescu;the pleasure is all mine. 360098;1382896695;mircea_popescu;raid drive 3 failed. 360099;1382896703;mircea_popescu;the thing will be back within minutes. 360100;1382896712;mike_c;raid.. 6? 360101;1382896730;mircea_popescu;mike_c it's 1+0 360102;1382896798;mircea_popescu;anyway. normally it could have recovered on the fly, but now chief engineer wants to see why it failed right now, and i can't argue with her. 360103;1382896820;Kleeck_;You can't? 360104;1382896827;Kleeck_;I mean, I guess it is Sunday... 360105;1382896864;mircea_popescu;i just don;t have what with lol 360106;1382896904;dexX7;what if your sysadmin steals all teh coins? 360107;1382896944;mircea_popescu;sysadmin doesn't have any coins. 360108;1382896959;mike_c;that happened to gox 6 months ago and they're still ok 360109;1382896992;kakobrekla;by still ok you mean like "i used to have schizophrenia but we are ok now"? 360110;1382897008;mike_c;hehe. something like that. 360111;1382897012;mircea_popescu;mike_c 6 months ? wjhich one is this ? 360112;1382897030;mircea_popescu;you mean the old "consultant" that broke into their stuff back in 2011 ? 360113;1382897049;mircea_popescu;who iirc was actually the ex-owner, now ripple guy ? 360114;1382897053;jurov;happened also to bitfloor, they are not okay 360115;1382897077;jurov;but i guess mircea knows better than leaving unencrypted wallets lying around 360116;1382897095;kakobrekla;thats just speculation! 360117;1382897098;mircea_popescu;i keep all my wallets encrypted in temporary amazon sessions 360118;1382897100;mircea_popescu;like that guy 360119;1382897106;kakobrekla;see. 360120;1382897131;dexX7;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg3422086#msg3422086 360121;1382897133;ozbot;ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It 360122;1382897137;asciilifeform;hotwallets aren't entirely useless. they make perfectly decent honeypots for crapware analysis. 360123;1382897138;dexX7;am financials 360124;1382897158;mircea_popescu;dexX7 how;d they do ? 360125;1382897169;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform probably why kakobrekla insists on having one on bitbet 360126;1382897205;kakobrekla;maybe. 360127;1382897258;dexX7;well, i don't know. i have no reference to say "it's good or bad" 360128;1382897260;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 23 @ 0.00796 = 0.1831 BTC [-] {2} 360129;1382897286;kakobrekla;wait and see if stock drops 360130;1382897290;kakobrekla;:p 360131;1382897292;mircea_popescu;so you know they did good then ? 360132;1382897314;dexX7;haha what kakaobrekla said 360133;1382897323;dexX7;no, i see numbers, but i can't "rate" them 360134;1382897346;kakobrekla;let me introduce you to the powers of tab autocomplete dexX7 360135;1382897356;dexX7;kakobrekla 360136;1382897357;dexX7;:) 360137;1382897361;mircea_popescu;kakao brekla! 360138;1382897363;kakobrekla;just sayin. 360139;1382897371;dexX7;hehe ty 360140;1382897375;mircea_popescu;dexX7 so just summarize the numbers ? 360141;1382897395;dexX7;https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Al1fvFT7Sd5bdDlHek0tem01M2IzSnhDUjBHbWI4dmc&usp=sharing + https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Al1fvFT7Sd5bdDh0enIxT0pycEVkZ2h6TE1BZ0dZd0E&usp=sharing 360142;1382897396;ozbot;Google Drive 360143;1382897498;kakobrekla;Owner's Equity5484.66 360144;1382897512;kakobrekla;this is what it is or what 360145;1382897522;kakobrekla;never looked at am report before 360146;1382897565;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 16 @ 0.00796 = 0.1274 BTC [-] 360147;1382897626;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00795001 = 0.3975 BTC [-] 360148;1382897627;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 15 @ 0.81394 = 12.2091 BTC [-] {5} 360149;1382897641;kakobrekla;aparently its bad! 360150;1382897648;Kleeck_;lol 360151;1382897680;mircea_popescu;they just won't move to an0 already would they ;/ 360152;1382897693;mircea_popescu;people keep publishing fundamentally meaningless reports cause why not, it's coo 360153;1382897704;kakobrekla;what reports 360154;1382897722;mike_c;hm, but i thought am went from 0.5 -> 0.8 the other day because the chinese video said he's getting a bunch of new hardware. 360155;1382897742;kakobrekla;i can do somalian video saying hes getting shit. 360156;1382897744;dexX7;well, gen2 nre costs are already payed 360157;1382897748;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 52 @ 0.00794811 = 0.4133 BTC [-] {2} 360158;1382897751;mircea_popescu;paid! 360159;1382897753;mike_c;yes, then it would break 1 360160;1382897756;dexX7;oh oh oh 360161;1382897758;dexX7;shame on me 360162;1382897761;dexX7;yes 360163;1382897798;mircea_popescu;how much were gen2 nre costs, and wasn;'t there a gen3 that's supposed to be where the real hash comes from ? 360164;1382897870;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 13 @ 0.79976923 = 10.397 BTC [-] {3} 360165;1382897872;mike_c;kakobrekla: that is actually a great idea. i bet we could make that happen on fiverr. it would be hilarious. 360166;1382897875;dexX7;$ 210k 360167;1382897891;kakobrekla;fiver? 360168;1382897903;mike_c;yeah, you can pay poor people $5 to do anything. 360169;1382897920;dexX7;i think the chinese guy fooled some with the video.. it was like "friedcat will bring 1000 th/s online on nov 7" and two hours later "i forgot to say that he actually said that am delievered 1000 th/s in sold products altogether" 360170;1382897933;kakobrekla;i can get black powder for 3$ and pocket 2. 360171;1382897944;Kleeck_;Hey. I made some coin off of the hype. I'll take it. :) 360172;1382897955;mike_c;but that wouldn't spook the bitcointalk crowd into pumping AM shares 360173;1382897962;Kleeck_;^ 360174;1382897996;kakobrekla;well tbh by 'getting shit' i ment getting shit, meaning nothing, originally but hey whats stopping you from going the other way 360175;1382898040;kakobrekla;make like 50 of them if they are so cheap 360176;1382898297;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0078524 = 0.7852 BTC [-] {3} 360177;1382898313;lurker;weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee 360178;1382898366;jurov;;;seen Namworld 360179;1382898366;gribble;Namworld was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 0 days, 9 hours, 57 minutes, and 20 seconds ago: <Namworld> Nope 360180;1382898372;jurov;:( 360181;1382898466;pankkake;great last words 360182;1382898469;pankkake;;;seen burnside 360183;1382898469;gribble;burnside was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 13 weeks, 3 days, 23 hours, 52 minutes, and 21 seconds ago: <burnside> lol 360184;1382898541;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 450 @ 0.00111212 = 0.5005 BTC [-] {2} 360185;1382899275;kakobrekla;they all seem to do that 360186;1382899278;kakobrekla;;;seen nefario 360187;1382899278;gribble;nefario was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 year, 4 weeks, 4 days, 22 hours, 41 minutes, and 3 seconds ago: <nefario> Those assets are not listed or traded anymore 360188;1382899578;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 400 @ 0.00114784 = 0.4591 BTC [+] {2} 360189;1382899639;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.79 BTC [-] 360190;1382899700;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.774 = 2.322 BTC [-] {2} 360191;1382899816;jurov;;;seens smickles 360192;1382899817;gribble;Error: "seens" is not a valid command. 360193;1382899820;jurov;;;seen smickles 360194;1382899820;gribble;smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 weeks, 0 days, 1 hour, 40 minutes, and 44 seconds ago: <smickles> ;D 360195;1382899823;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 112 @ 0.00765284 = 0.8571 BTC [-] {10} 360196;1382900007;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.745 BTC [-] 360197;1382900066;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.00711058 = 1.4221 BTC [-] {9} 360198;1382900188;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 84 @ 0.00700946 = 0.5888 BTC [-] {3} 360199;1382900249;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 116 @ 0.007 = 0.812 BTC [-] {2} 360200;1382900310;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 638 @ 0.007 = 4.466 BTC [-] {4} 360201;1382900371;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 94 @ 0.006802 = 0.6394 BTC [-] 360202;1382900432;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.75 = 1.5 BTC [+] 360203;1382900554;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.7280001 BTC [-] 360204;1382900859;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.728 = 2.184 BTC [-] 360205;1382900915;smidge;;;market buy 10000 360206;1382900917;gribble;A market order to buy 10000 bitcoins right now would take 2136953.7990 USD and would take the last price up to 223.7812 USD, resulting in an average price of 213.6954 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0013 seconds 360207;1382900920;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.727 BTC [-] 360208;1382901103;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.7115 = 1.423 BTC [-] {2} 360209;1382901164;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.679 BTC [-] 360210;1382901225;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 70 @ 0.006802 = 0.4761 BTC [-] 360211;1382901226;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 16 @ 0.665 = 10.64 BTC [-] {6} 360212;1382901287;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 135 @ 0.006802 = 0.9183 BTC [-] {2} 360213;1382901288;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.66 = 2.64 BTC [-] 360214;1382901469;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 548 @ 0.00680152 = 3.7272 BTC [-] {4} 360215;1382901851;nubbins`;i consumed a large amount of alcohol last night 360216;1382901923;jurov;nubbins`: what kind of? 360217;1382901949;nubbins`;pale lager 360218;1382902083;jurov;https://coinbr.com/about Slashed fees since November 1!!! 360219;1382902084;ozbot;About CoinBr 360220;1382902150;nubbins`;slashed indeed 360221;1382902199;mike_c;good move. 360222;1382902548;jurov;btw, it had 1 year anniversary :) feels like much longer time in btc 360223;1382902558;mike_c;congrats! 360224;1382902644;jurov;thx 360225;1382902659;pankkake;pretty cool :) so it will be effective on the 1st (i.e. should I wait to use it)? 360226;1382902792;pankkake;!ticker m s.mg 360227;1382902792;assbot;Some are born to endless night. 360228;1382902801;pankkake;okay 360229;1382902811;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 150 @ 0.00652944 = 0.9794 BTC [-] {6} 360230;1382902812;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 50 @ 0.65440052 = 32.72 BTC [-] {6} 360231;1382902816;mike_c;heh. mpex is down, maybe that's why. 360232;1382902849;jurov;no, on 1st we'll ask only 0.19 or less (if you register now, you'll pay only for 5 days) 360233;1382902859;jurov;0.019 sry 360234;1382902868;pankkake;indeed, what an amateurish service! 360235;1382902880;pankkake;well I have an account already (with nothing on it) 360236;1382902994;jurov;if you act quickly, you can catch s.mpoe dividends ;) 360237;1382903020;pankkake;do you support Armory signatures for widthdrawal? it seems they are not the same as the main client 360238;1382903055;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.6500005 = 1.95 BTC [-] 360239;1382903091;jurov;were you trying them? they may not be different, just some bugs, esp. with longer texts 360240;1382903130;jurov;electrum fixed that some month ago, armory should be too 360241;1382903147;pankkake;oh, ok. only something I read 360242;1382903194;pankkake;anyway I can always export the keys and sign it some other way 360243;1382903234;jurov;try and let me know. i want to have it working with armory, too 360244;1382903287;jurov;last time i tried, it refused to start, did not put more effort into it 360245;1382903313;pankkake;well, it requires 6G of ram currently :/ 360246;1382903386;pankkake;now I hope bitvps goes back to mpex! 360247;1382903471;kakobrekla;armory meh 360248;1382903477;kakobrekla;coin control ftw 360249;1382903699;jurov;;;ticker 360250;1382903699;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 202.00000, Best ask: 202.00500, Bid-ask spread: 0.00500, Last trade: 202.00500, 24 hour volume: 10070.43002790, 24 hour low: 187.02000, 24 hour high: 204.50000, 24 hour vwap: 196.64402 360251;1382903711;jurov;welcome back @200 360252;1382903714;mike_c;let the bubble resume 360253;1382903801;benkay;goodness 360254;1382904213;nubbins`;huh 360255;1382904280;nubbins`;;;ticker --market all 360256;1382904297;nubbins`;... 360257;1382904306;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD last: 205.00000, vol: 10861.55696460 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 184.639, vol: 13278.41497 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 196.99, vol: 3478.53293698 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 179.49, vol: 352.23338254 | Volume-weighted last average: 194.016724306 360258;1382904360;pankkake;hm, so Armory signature didn't work, but brainwallet.org's did work 360259;1382904381;pankkake;armory gives a raw signature, it seems, while brainwallet gave me something that is obviously base64 360260;1382904702;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.000168 = 0.168 BTC [+] 360261;1382904885;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 500 @ 0.0061891 = 3.0946 BTC [-] {15} 360262;1382904946;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00614499 = 0.6145 BTC [-] {2} 360263;1382905129;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 96 @ 0.00605745 = 0.5815 BTC [-] {3} 360264;1382905190;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 4660 @ 0.00530594 = 24.7257 BTC [-] {27} 360265;1382905251;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 975 @ 0.005 = 4.875 BTC [-] {3} 360266;1382905312;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 174 @ 0.00499998 = 0.87 BTC [-] {2} 360267;1382905373;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 4526 @ 0.00499999 = 22.63 BTC [+] {2} 360268;1382905434;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 229 @ 0.005 = 1.145 BTC [+] 360269;1382905435;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 50 @ 0.63760003 = 31.88 BTC [-] {4} 360270;1382905529;davout;mircea_popescu: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/mpex.co 360271;1382905556;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.00689373 = 0.2757 BTC [+] {2} 360272;1382905574;jurov;hi davout, read the log. apparently raid issue 360273;1382905739;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.1777 BTC [+] 360274;1382905799;jurov;lol, the association emerged: "nsa raid" 360275;1382905983;nubbins`;MPEX DOWN, NSA RAID SUSPECTED 360276;1382906004;Azelphur;THEY'RE WATCHING US NOW 360277;1382906014;kakobrekla;thes is No Such rAid. 360278;1382906088;davout;failing last they said 360279;1382906097;kakobrekla;failing last, twice. 360280;1382906377;pankkake;do it like openbsd: "Only two remote holes in the default install, in a heck of a long time!" 360281;1382906399;pankkake;they used to state years I think 360282;1382906429;asciilifeform;sorta like those 'X days without fatal accident!' scoreboards they used to have at construction sites. 360283;1382906625;mike_c;jurov, this is still up, but I assume should not be relied on? http://mpex.coinbr.com/ 360284;1382906635;jurov;that's cached 360285;1382906653;jurov;if you try to submit stuff, you'll get timeout 360286;1382906659;mike_c;k, thanks. 360287;1382906716;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.62 = 3.1 BTC [-] 360288;1382907081;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.61 = 6.1 BTC [-] 360289;1382907325;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.63 BTC [+] 360290;1382907691;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6101 BTC [-] 360291;1382907752;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61 BTC [-] 360292;1382907963;nubbins`;5 days without fatal accident! 360293;1382907973;nubbins`;definitely worthy of a ! 360294;1382908484;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.608 BTC [-] 360295;1382908606;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6079798 BTC [-] 360296;1382908789;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 400 @ 0.002585 = 1.034 BTC [-] {2} 360297;1382909460;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61 BTC [+] 360298;1382909468;thestringpuller;moomba 360299;1382909473;thestringpuller;roomba 360300;1382909477;thestringpuller;zumba 360301;1382909502;pankkake;dj roomba 360302;1382909514;kakobrekla;#bitcoin-karaoke is next door btw. 360303;1382909573;jurov;it's closed 360304;1382909582;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.6065 = 1.213 BTC [-] 360305;1382909631;benkay;no sauna 360306;1382909643;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 18 @ 0.60594444 = 10.907 BTC [-] {3} 360307;1382909657;jurov;/join #bitcoin-sauna 360308;1382909672;pankkake;well, we have no saunas, but we have POOLS 360309;1382909680;jurov;we have boiler rooms 360310;1382909686;VanCleef;/join #fuckfriedcat 360311;1382909704;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 35 @ 0.07263999 = 2.5424 BTC [-] {3} 360312;1382909707;pankkake;necrozoophilia? 360313;1382909765;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.60020001 = 1.8006 BTC [-] 360314;1382909852;thestringpuller;is mpex back yet? 360315;1382909863;thestringpuller;json stat be broked yo 360316;1382909887;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6002 BTC [-] 360317;1382909891;jurov;no, there's nsa raid 360318;1382909939;pankkake;mircea_popescu is waterboarded right now 360319;1382909951;pankkake;give up the key! 360320;1382910091;mike_c;sorry, key was stored on prototype cardano and is inaccessible 360321;1382910279;thestringpuller;mpex has been hacked!!!!! 360322;1382910284;thestringpuller;spread the news 360323;1382910287;thestringpuller;sell sell sell sell 360324;1382910328;pankkake;well you can't. clever! 360325;1382910357;pankkake;actually all latest mpex trades are mpoe buys. must have been rigged 360326;1382910375;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.60020001 = 1.8006 BTC [+] 360327;1382910387;jurov;we can make trade manually in between us, to be settled when mpex goes online 360328;1382910400;kakobrekla;;;later tell mircea_popescu you forgot to turn off fake vol bot again ... 360329;1382910400;gribble;The operation succeeded. 360330;1382910406;jurov;i'm buying s.mpoe at 0.00001, anyone? 360331;1382910408;kakobrekla;oh that was suppose to be private. 360332;1382910436;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.60007271 = 6.6008 BTC [-] {4} 360333;1382910498;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 0.0644 = 0.1288 BTC [-] {2} 360334;1382910552;jurov;i don't see any such trades... or assbot censors them now? 360335;1382910620;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 96 @ 0.002729 = 0.262 BTC [+] 360336;1382910621;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.1777 = 0.3554 BTC [+] 360337;1382910786;pankkake;oh, so mpex is kind of already p2p? 360338;1382910815;kakobrekla;what who censors? 360339;1382910822;kakobrekla;assbot censors if vol sub 0.1 360340;1382910846;pankkake;#bitcoin-assets-trades for all 360341;1382910857;jurov;it includes the fake ones? 360342;1382910865;kakobrekla;yes even the fakes 360343;1382911000;thestringpuller;why are fake trades announced? 360344;1382911012;thestringpuller;http://drakethetype.tumblr.com/ 360345;1382911013;ozbot;Drake the type... 360346;1382911125;benkay;oh yes 360347;1382911254;benkay;drake the type of nigga to safely eject a usb stick 360348;1382911279;kakobrekla;what did this drake fella do to deserve this? 360349;1382911300;benkay;this for starters: http://25.media.tumblr.com/0d090af1bcf9b06b11b137a86e35d860/tumblr_mugjnb6V4X1sczgpmo1_1280.jpg 360350;1382911342;kakobrekla;the dude thats waveing? 360351;1382911353;benkay;yeah 360352;1382911355;benkay;it's a long story 360353;1382911358;benkay;it starts with degrassi 360354;1382911360;benkay;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tY5TfSnN8qY 360355;1382911361;ozbot;Drake On Degrassi - YouTube 360356;1382911366;kakobrekla;so he likes to get in in the ass, whats the big deal 360357;1382911393;benkay;big nono in black american culture 360358;1382911412;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 35 @ 0.0061998 = 0.217 BTC [+] {2} 360359;1382911489;kakobrekla;just to clearify, 'nigger' culture or black american culture? 360360;1382911593;benkay;both imho 360361;1382911603;benkay;being that most gay black men tend to join the gay community 360362;1382911610;benkay;gay black community is like 360363;1382911613;benkay;rounding error 360364;1382911648;benkay;not that i even know what a 'nigger' is 360365;1382911659;benkay;if i knew what that word meant i'd have a mob at my door i think 360366;1382911677;benkay;i'll just blithely claim ignorance 360367;1382911691;kakobrekla;hehe ok 360368;1382911772;jurov;perhaps dub should say 360369;1382911834;jurov;;;seen dub 360370;1382911834;gribble;dub was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 days, 0 hours, 30 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: <dub> dexX7: fucken chemtrails 360371;1382911845;jurov;D: 360372;1382911847;kakobrekla;they got to him. 360373;1382911859;kakobrekla;dub got got. 360374;1382911994;jurov;i'd rather retreat into darkest corner of my lair and await my fate...cya 360375;1382912143;kakobrekla;cya 360376;1382912266;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 28 @ 0.59017858 = 16.525 BTC [-] {3} 360377;1382912267;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 71 @ 0.00619982 = 0.4402 BTC [+] {2} 360378;1382912944;Diablo-D3;heh 360379;1382912955;Diablo-D3;I think there are people who just ragequit 360380;1382912960;Diablo-D3;november 1st is coming quickly 360381;1382912966;Diablo-D3;I wonder why not everyone has traded in their dmc 360382;1382913051;pankkake;perhaps they're dead 360383;1382913303;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 9200 @ 0.00017 = 1.564 BTC [+] 360384;1382913354;Diablo-D3;pankkake: possible 360385;1382913415;thestringpuller;FREE AT LAST FREE AT LAST 360386;1382913726;thestringpuller;;;seen mod6 360387;1382913726;gribble;mod6 was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 20 hours, 9 minutes, and 43 seconds ago: <mod6> watcha been up to thestringpuller? 360388;1382913734;mod6;werd up 360389;1382913735;Diablo-D3;thestringpuller: not yet 360390;1382913740;Diablo-D3;november 1st isnt here yet 360391;1382913760;thestringpuller;what happenes november 1st? 360392;1382913768;thestringpuller;oh dmc 360393;1382913928;Diablo-D3;yeah 360394;1382913934;Diablo-D3;Im finally free of that prison 360395;1382914523;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 16 @ 0.591 = 9.456 BTC [+] 360396;1382914950;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 19 @ 0.05580531 = 1.0603 BTC [-] {2} 360397;1382915194;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 95 @ 0.05135188 = 4.8784 BTC [-] {6} 360398;1382917579;Vexual;are they 80bytes a step towards placating us regulators? 360399;1382918381;KRS1;wut 360400;1382918795;Vexual;the foundation had a sit down with some irrelevant bureaucrats 360401;1382919152;Vexual;i'd like to imagine they are selling it as a feature, and teaching the less relevant party to fail at chess in their first and only game 360402;1382919433;pankkake;I just got a silly job offer, feels like a spam 360403;1382919453;pankkake;"An opportunity to join the most famous & successful website in the world today - Dublin €50-60K + Bens" 360404;1382919477;Vexual;dublin eh? 360405;1382919483;pankkake;Are you a rockstar Web Developer with superb programming skills in a range of open source technologies? Would you like to work for the most famous and successful website in the world today? 360406;1382919500;pankkake;"Java, J2EE, PHP, LAMP, Javascript or Objective C" I'd rather kill myself 360407;1382919504;Vexual;good luck in dublin froggy 360408;1382919514;pankkake;I'm not much of a frog :) 360409;1382919515;kakobrekla;when i see "rockstar" i say "fuckyou" 360410;1382919534;pankkake;HR people who try to appeal to "geeks" are annoying 360411;1382919603;kakobrekla;olol 360412;1382919610;kakobrekla;to bbet email> Excuse me but your buy shares button is broken. I would like to purchase some. 360413;1382919623;Vexual;whats 50k euro in real money? 360414;1382919624;kakobrekla;what are the chances. 360415;1382919643;pankkake;I wouldn't mind an opportunity to get out of France though 360416;1382919719;pankkake;Vexual: about 350 BTC 360417;1382919739;kakobrekla;;;bc,convert eur 360418;1382919740;gribble;1 BTC = 205.00000 U.S. dollars = 148.475411 Euros 360419;1382919750;kakobrekla;;;calc 50/0.15 360420;1382919750;gribble;333.333333333 360421;1382919767;pankkake;real EUR, not mtgoxEUR :) 360422;1382919770;Vexual;I wonder if you can drink guiness at work? 360423;1382919773;kakobrekla;:) 360424;1382919806;pankkake;I don't really like Guiness. Unlike women I like blondes better 360425;1382919893;Vexual;well rockstars drink what they like 360426;1382919914;Vexual;and turn up to appointments late in leather pants with no shirt on 360427;1382919971;pankkake;lol 360428;1382920196;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00600499 = 0.6005 BTC [-] {2} 360429;1382920379;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 450 @ 0.00114784 = 0.5165 BTC [+] 360430;1382920806;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 260 @ 0.00272995 = 0.7098 BTC [+] {2} 360431;1382920867;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 843 @ 0.00272997 = 2.3014 BTC [+] 360432;1382921769;mircea_popescu;<kakobrekla> what are the chances. << bout 80% i guess 360433;1382921806;kakobrekla;lol 360434;1382921809;kakobrekla;irlol. 360435;1382921863;mircea_popescu;anyway. the fsck is complete, the drives are fine, the failure was due to cosmic rays. 360436;1382921889;mircea_popescu;sent the pcb in the dead one to be cut apart, i'll have the results in a coupla weeks, i don't expect to see anything. 360437;1382922697;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.31500017 = 1.89 BTC [+] {5} 360438;1382922709;Vexual;those cosmic rays are a bitch 360439;1382922758;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.31500017 BTC [+] 360440;1382922874;Apocalyptic;not sure if serious or joking 360441;1382922899;mircea_popescu;i dunno, i never met a cosmic ray. 360442;1382922936;Vexual;you've known gadzillionz intimately billions 360443;1382922940;Apocalyptic;of course you did mircea_popescu, they penetrate you everyday 360444;1382922954;mircea_popescu;raep 360445;1382923027;Vexual;you can get anything you want at alices resturant 360446;1382923734;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 16 @ 0.58237506 = 9.318 BTC [-] {5} 360447;1382925302;Vexual;whats the craic nubbins`? 360448;1382925404;nubbins`;not much 360449;1382925408;nubbins`;ink shopping 360450;1382925564;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [+] 360451;1382925565;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00272996 = 0.273 BTC [-] 360452;1382925581;Vexual;wild 360453;1382925669;Vexual;does anyone have thousghts on 0.9? 360454;1382925920;KRS1;wut 360455;1382925980;Vexual;are you smoking funny cigarettes krs1? 360456;1382925992;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 319 @ 0.00111937 = 0.3571 BTC [-] {4} 360457;1382926052;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 750 @ 0.00110064 = 0.8255 BTC [-] {8} 360458;1382926220;Vexual;sideways soup analysis in full effect 360459;1382926479;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 94 @ 0.0011 = 0.1034 BTC [-] {2} 360460;1382926601;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5612 BTC [-] 360461;1382926662;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 2611 @ 0.00107258 = 2.8005 BTC [-] {9} 360462;1382926723;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1225 @ 0.00106 = 1.2985 BTC [-] {2} 360463;1382926863;thestringpuller;smokin on dat dro 360464;1382926868;thestringpuller;where beeeee mpex at yo? 360465;1382927045;nubbins`;dro 360466;1382927089;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1875 @ 0.00106 = 1.9875 BTC [-] 360467;1382927124;mircea_popescu;hehe. iiiit wooooont be loooong now 360468;1382927171;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKTUAESacQM 360469;1382927172;ozbot;The Sugar Hill Gang - Rapper's Delight ( HQ, Full Version ) - YouTube 360470;1382927211;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00272997 = 0.1365 BTC [+] 360471;1382927308;nubbins`;mircea_popescu, thestringpuller: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUBkEuxhgIU 360472;1382927455;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00272997 = 0.273 BTC [+] {2} 360473;1382927516;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.31500017 = 0.63 BTC [+] 360474;1382927638;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.1777 = 0.5331 BTC [+] 360475;1382927699;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.178 = 0.534 BTC [+] 360476;1382927821;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [+] 360477;1382928065;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 10 @ 0.07611699 = 0.7612 BTC [+] {5} 360478;1382928126;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.65798996 = 1.974 BTC [+] {2} 360479;1382928187;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 7 @ 0.07628999 = 0.534 BTC [+] {2} 360480;1382929389;Vexual;elegance cannot be imitated 360481;1382929468;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 154 @ 0.00537062 = 0.8271 BTC [-] {6} 360482;1382929536;Vexual;and there are no terms of reference but itself 360483;1382929590;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1098 @ 0.00272996 = 2.9975 BTC [-] 360484;1382929889;Vexual;stick that in your machine learning and smoke it 360485;1382930207;darby;ai is the new ui 360486;1382930229;Vexual;derp 360487;1382930261;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 46 @ 0.56210001 = 25.8566 BTC [-] {10} 360488;1382930358;Vexual;google dumbed down their systems 2 years ago to appear to have progressed. it's the state of misinfo 360489;1382930505;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.55002727 = 6.0503 BTC [-] {3} 360490;1382930639;darby;interesting tactic 360491;1382930695;Vexual;even nsa dont have one hundred thosadnth of a good brain 360492;1382931176;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.55001 BTC [-] 360493;1382931177;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 38 @ 0.00528008 = 0.2006 BTC [+] 360494;1382931189;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDZrVzoKM7Q 360495;1382931189;ozbot;RITA MARLEY "That's The Way Jah Jah Planned It" Paradiso, Amsterdam 2010 - YouTube 360496;1382931237;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.55001 = 1.65 BTC [-] 360497;1382931274;darby;praise jah 360498;1382931326;Vexual;satoshi too 360499;1382931360;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 184 @ 0.00110832 = 0.2039 BTC [-] 360500;1382931481;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SMG] 1565 @ 0.00011001 = 0.1722 BTC [-] 360501;1382932052;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvy5TGLUls8 360502;1382932052;ozbot;Damian "Jr. Gong" Marley - Set Up Shop - YouTube 360503;1382933128;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.5525 = 2.21 BTC [+] {2} 360504;1382933189;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.54000001 BTC [-] 360505;1382933311;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.5304 = 2.652 BTC [-] {3} 360506;1382933610;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsBivcKbOGI 360507;1382933610;ozbot;The Streets - Turn the Page - YouTube 360508;1382933964;darby;i'll contribute 360509;1382933968;darby;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkS0yUxZ-go 360510;1382933969;ozbot;rhythm & sound w/ tikiman - jah rule - YouTube 360511;1382934018;Vexual;ill interrrupt joss stone for your cool handle darby 360512;1382934054;Vexual;success of a human hive, i like it 360513;1382934220;Vexual;now the patterns in one mans greay soup tell me i like you 360514;1382934341;darby;:) 360515;1382934409;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2229 @ 0.00258009 = 5.751 BTC [-] {11} 360516;1382934414;Vexual;two lists and a delicate interface, wait and see what i do with 80 bytes 360517;1382934531;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 115 @ 0.0052809 = 0.6073 BTC [-] {4} 360518;1382934554;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4UJLHFkWZ8 360519;1382934554;ozbot;Yes Sir Boss ft Joss Stone - Come Together - YouTube 360520;1382934584;KRS1;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlCmQcRPtRg 360521;1382934585;ozbot;Damian Marley - Welcome To Jamrock - YouTube 360522;1382934775;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 34 @ 0.52994117 = 18.018 BTC [-] {3} 360523;1382934906;Vexual;tropical varieties are still a rarity, but i think pankkake has something called pif? 360524;1382935211;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUwDx8HO11c 360525;1382935211;ozbot;Cypress Hill feat Method Man & Redman - Red Meth & B - YouTube 360526;1382935592;Vexual;鮫皮?):same-kawa 360527;1382935994;Vexual;kanos avatar is still an offence to my schooling 360528;1382936189;Vexual;now that my master is dead by the blade of his son 360529;1382936483;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 209 @ 0.00549999 = 1.1495 BTC [+] {2} 360530;1382936666;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.55 = 1.1 BTC [+] 360531;1382936763;Vexual;it sits in a police station 360532;1382936812;Vexual;it should be melted and cast to sea 360533;1382936849;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.52113333 = 1.5634 BTC [-] {3} 360534;1382936863;Vexual;pon a savage wind 360535;1382937111;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXAVYlGRIqc 360536;1382937111;ozbot;Tricky - Brand New You're Retro (live 1995) - YouTube 360537;1382937309;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3fd4nE8OCI 360538;1382937309;ozbot;Tricky - Murder Weapon (2010) - YouTube 360539;1382937642;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0053202 = 0.532 BTC [-] {2} 360540;1382937735;mircea_popescu;http://xkcd.com/1172/ 360541;1382937736;ozbot;xkcd: Workflow 360542;1382937764;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 107 @ 0.00532023 = 0.5693 BTC [+] {2} 360543;1382937839;Vexual;looks like a fax 360544;1382937924;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3R_3h6zQEs 360545;1382937924;ozbot;Tricky - 'Hell Is Round the Corner' - YouTube 360546;1382938084;Vexual;my master tagt me the finer parts of linux, cad, fine art, sailing, swordsmanship and judo 360547;1382938120;Vexual;also cheaper motorcycles and native relations 360548;1382938166;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdbk0R2riCc 360549;1382938166;ozbot;Billy Bunks - Hookers - YouTube 360550;1382938578;Vexual;avoid war 360551;1382938622;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHo7zyXqFsI 360552;1382938622;ozbot;Tornts - Don't Like Ya Shit [feat. Billy Bunks] - YouTube 360553;1382938782;Vexual;kano 360554;1382938876;Vexual;its all a grand tapestryu 360555;1382938924;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.31500014 = 1.575 BTC [-] 360556;1382939166;dub;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ElJ9wQllJ0 360557;1382939167;ozbot;Waltzing Matilda - YouTube 360558;1382939188;Vexual;you're full of funny ideas 360559;1382939313;Vexual;good mix tho 360560;1382939341;Vexual;korean 3d 360561;1382939452;dub;this is awesome http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ElJ9wQllJ0&t=2m27s 360562;1382939509;Vexual;this wis ulti mately betterer 360563;1382939510;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j16RlNtyBE 360564;1382939510;ozbot;Woodstock 1969 - Canned Heat - On The Road Again - YouTube 360565;1382940201;Vexual;dub you win some aussie goodness for being so clever with korean 3d 360566;1382940204;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 192 @ 0.00259999 = 0.4992 BTC [+] 360567;1382940235;Vexual;thisll make goat quit 360568;1382940239;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJjYc2qqNNg 360569;1382940239;ozbot;Pop Porn - Regurgitator - YouTube 360570;1382940265;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 421 @ 0.0026 = 1.0946 BTC [+] 360571;1382940429;Vexual;blame it on the cosmic rays 360572;1382940509;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.5895 = 2.358 BTC [+] {2} 360573;1382940631;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.0026 = 0.26 BTC [+] 360574;1382940692;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.00114789 = 0.1148 BTC [+] 360575;1382941376;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jcu1AHaTchM 360576;1382941376;ozbot;Flight Facilities - Clair De Lune (feat. Christine Hoberg) - YouTube 360577;1382941973;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5994986 BTC [+] 360578;1382942583;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.59949839 BTC [-] 360579;1382942645;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 0.0762 = 0.1524 BTC [-] 360580;1382942705;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.0026 = 0.13 BTC [+] 360581;1382943071;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 46 @ 0.0026 = 0.1196 BTC [+] 360582;1382945267;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 4 @ 0.17777 = 0.7111 BTC [-] 360583;1382945511;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 244 @ 0.0011479 = 0.2801 BTC [+] 360584;1382945633;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 72 @ 0.0027 = 0.1944 BTC [+] 360585;1382946121;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.5728 = 1.1456 BTC [-] 360586;1382947585;assbot;[MPEX] [TEST] 987654321 @ 1.23456789 = 1219326311.1264 BTC 360587;1382948375;jurov;hm, mpex still fscking... 360588;1382948808;mircea_popescu;jurov on the 2nd disk ;/ 360589;1382952406;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.59949771 = 2.9975 BTC [+] 360590;1382952710;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 22008 @ 0.00017 = 3.7414 BTC [+] {2} 360591;1382953686;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 14 @ 0.59985649 = 8.398 BTC [+] {2} 360592;1382953791;bitesak;;;ticker 360593;1382953791;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 207.30000, Best ask: 207.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.50000, Last trade: 207.30000, 24 hour volume: 14695.42472329, 24 hour low: 192.20589, 24 hour high: 208.36000, 24 hour vwap: 202.88589 360594;1382954068;jurov;http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/columnist/wolff/2013/10/27/ceos-are-often-clueless-about-technology/3182203/ 360595;1382954069;ozbot;Wolff: How CEOs are clueless about technology 360596;1382954095;jurov;^ for anyone who is still fearing govt will kill bitcoin 360597;1382954513;pankkake;are there people who really fear that? or simply think they will *try* (which is annoying enough) 360598;1382954528;pankkake;I don't really see the relation with the article though 360599;1382954666;pankkake;;;later tell mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-08-2013&bots=true#273774 360600;1382954667;gribble;The operation succeeded. 360601;1382955701;mircea_popescu;pankkake no, see, it's a bad power 360602;1382955748;pankkake;bad power supply? cable? 360603;1382955851;mircea_popescu;see, a drive popped yest. so this was suspicious, was looked into extensively. nothing found. new drive was put in. 360604;1382955863;mircea_popescu;~1 hour later, this drive also popped. 360605;1382955905;mircea_popescu;that particular power strip apparently puts noise in burns drives. i have no spare powers because a lot of shit in there. 360606;1382955919;mircea_popescu;and etc. 360607;1382956186;pankkake;hard drives are very capricious… power, cables, airflow :/ 360608;1382956205;mircea_popescu;i have never heard of shit like this before. 360609;1382956245;mircea_popescu;anyway, no attack, no data loss, no anything. just fucking obnoxious power. 360610;1382958054;jurov;mircea ic, you thought too hard about good entropy sources.. so one got manifest :D 360611;1382958572;KRS1;bad ground? 360612;1382959150;pankkake;I tested my appartment, depending on the wall it has bad ground or reversed polarity. must have been wired by monkeys 360613;1382959232;lurker;the best electricians! 360614;1382959236;lurker;hi 360615;1382959275;KRS1;hush you are supposed to be lurking 360616;1382959298;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.17777 BTC [-] 360617;1382959304;lurker;I am shhhh 360618;1382959378;KRS1;ok 360619;1382960945;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 81 @ 0.00599893 = 0.4859 BTC [-] 360620;1382961616;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69348300 BTC to 1`386`966 shares, 50 satoshi per share 360621;1382963226;davout;pankkake: reversed polarity? with alternative current? 360622;1382963242;davout;:-) 360623;1382963263;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00599699 = 0.2998 BTC [-] 360624;1382963342;mircea_popescu;jurov, totally 360625;1382963499;pankkake;well, I don't know really, of course it doesn't make sense. but something was reversed according to my tester 360626;1382963640;pankkake;http://www.audiograal.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/testeur.jpg depending on the wall, the errors weren't the same 360627;1382963673;pankkake;(ok, not polarity) 360628;1382963944;davout;pankkake: where did you learn electronics? bfl? 360629;1382963955;davout;:D 360630;1382963965;Apocalyptic;haha davout 360631;1382963973;lewicki;chevron 7 is now locked 360632;1382964002;pankkake;I had the lowest score of my last eletronic classes actually! 360633;1382965276;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6000001 BTC [+] 360634;1382965337;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6 BTC [-] 360635;1382965398;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 9 @ 0.05750001 = 0.5175 BTC [-] 360636;1382966009;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 160 @ 0.00114754 = 0.1836 BTC [-] {4} 360637;1382966067;bitesak;;;ticker 360638;1382966068;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 206.01000, Best ask: 206.02000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 206.02000, 24 hour volume: 15499.07585503, 24 hour low: 192.22880, 24 hour high: 208.50000, 24 hour vwap: 203.41622 360639;1382968021;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.5812 = 4.6496 BTC [-] {2} 360640;1382968387;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 34 @ 0.00571013 = 0.1941 BTC [-] 360641;1382968570;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00571012 = 0.571 BTC [-] {2} 360642;1382968814;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [LABCO] [PAID] 0.54749128 BTC to 40`316 shares, 1358 satoshi per share 360643;1382969424;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.34998999 BTC [+] 360644;1382969668;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 220 @ 0.0011 = 0.242 BTC [-] 360645;1382970944;ThickAsThieves;Free migration of NEOBEE shares from Bitfunder to Havelock ends soon! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=289730.msg3427655#msg3427655 360646;1382972299;smickles;$email 360647;1382972300;mpexbot;smickles: No new messages received. 360648;1382972779;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 186 @ 0.00571005 = 1.0621 BTC [-] {2} 360649;1382973084;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 22 @ 0.0056309 = 0.1239 BTC [-] {2} 360650;1382973511;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61 BTC [+] 360651;1382973532;jcpham;smickles! 360652;1382973544;jcpham;greetings and salutations 360653;1382975171;mircea_popescu;well that was painful. 360654;1382975289;nubbins`;i've got this condition where it's really difficult for me to find the ketchup in the fridge 360655;1382975382;abracadabra;put a big yellow flag on the ketchup bottle 360656;1382975463;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1834 @ 0.0011 = 2.0174 BTC [-] 360657;1382975590;bob_;omg mpex is back. 360658;1382975595;bob_;almost. 360659;1382975638;Azelphur;mpex fought the law and the...mpex won 360660;1382975647;bob_;almost. some stuff is weird. 360661;1382975694;nubbins`;abracadabra: i seriously searched for 30 minutes last night. open the fridge this morning, ketchup sitting alone on the bottom shelf 360662;1382975698;bob_;heh. the s.nsa ipo is back on! 360663;1382975838;bob_;looks like 10 days of data missing. well, those trades probably weren't important anyway :D 360664;1382976067;mircea_popescu;bob they're just not showing. 360665;1382976079;mircea_popescu;also trade is not active atm. 360666;1382976128;the20year;what exchanges are working decently? 360667;1382976203;nubbins`;mircea_popescu: one of the big problems with higher education is that students think "ok, i just attend these classes, get this degree, and i'm employable", which is just not true. getting a university degree, college diploma, whatever, doesn't mean you're employable, doesn't mean you have skills, doesn't mean you know how to do anything besides graduate from a program. the value isn't in the degre 360668;1382976204;nubbins`;or the individual classes, the value is being in an environment where you have ready access to the tools you need to educate *yourself*. nobody understands this anymore, and so they just show up and mope through classes and go home, not communicating with people who could offer advice, not seeking out opportunities to gain useful knowledge. just going through the motions and passing tests until the 360669;1382976204;nubbins`;get a sheet of paper that says "B.Sc. (hons)", and then working a shit retail job until one day they realize (or not) what they should have been doing all along 360670;1382976266;nubbins`;and it takes a 3 minute job interview to separate those who went through the motions from those who took the opportunity to educate themselves 360671;1382976352;pankkake;getting drunk with friends were the best learning experiences I got from higher education 360672;1382976366;pankkake;well, and the internships 360673;1382976385;pankkake;didn't even bother coming back for the diplomas 360674;1382976390;nubbins`;spending six years learning that i didn't want to spend the rest of my life working in an office was the best learning experience i got 360675;1382976404;nubbins`;very, very expensive lesson, but sometimes it must be so 360676;1382976472;KRS-;nubbins: not sure if you went to college or not, I did and I learned a lot. A lot of what you said is true, but you can't discount a degree someone has attained. 360677;1382976474;jurov;so... since mpex now advises to vent our rage here... y u no backup machine mircea??? 360678;1382976525;nubbins`;KRS-: i spent 6 years in university. i'm discounting the notion that possession of a degree automatically confers knowledge, wisdom, or experience. :) 360679;1382976559;nubbins`;i know lots of very intelligent university-educated people, but i also know some complete fucking morons with the same credentials 360680;1382976577;KRS-;Ok I see what you are saying and you are right. Those who are just good test takers who finished a program stick out like a sore thumb imo. 360681;1382976588;bob_;certainly not experience, but it does generally mean some knowledge. 360682;1382976593;KRS-;Most of the time you can tell just by talking to them. 360683;1382976606;pankkake;I wouldn't employ most of the people who got the diplomas I got 360684;1382976619;bob_;CS majors know what O(n) means. English majors who taught themselves html do not. 360685;1382976622;jurov;nubbins`: i'd reject such advice before my 3rd uni year as outright blasphemous 360686;1382976632;nubbins`;well, that's the problem. kids are throwing tens of $ away, under the impression that it will make a difference in their lives. but unless they have the drive to take what they want and the self-awareness to know what it is, it'll never be anything more than a costly waste of time for them 360687;1382976662;the20year;I'm still pretty happy with the fact I have never attended formal college 360688;1382976670;nubbins`;tens of $? lel. tens of thousands of $ 360689;1382976683;bob_;100's. 360690;1382976688;nubbins`;this is why a bachelor's degree is the new standard for employability 360691;1382976691;nubbins`;because everyone has one 360692;1382976698;the20year;I wonder how much that piece of paper would cost me 360693;1382976706;nubbins`;completely avoiding the fact that they're as useless now as a HS diploma was not long ago 360694;1382976725;mircea_popescu;jurov because at some point your system is either cenrtralised or it isn't. 360695;1382976755;jurov;btw, i'd happily employ genial teenagers.. but how to find them and how to keep them motivated for my cause? 360696;1382976764;the20year;Develop a hiring system 360697;1382976764;KRS-;the20year: cost me $60 I got 2% for 12 years financing still paying lol 360698;1382976769;nubbins`;you can't "keep" people motivated 360699;1382976772;mircea_popescu;you know genial = friendly, happy people. genius is prolly what you mean 360700;1382976782;KRS-;$60K 360701;1382976788;jurov;the20year: can you elaborate? 360702;1382976808;nubbins`;ah a hiring system. why has nobody thought of this! 360703;1382976839;nubbins`;can part of the system be "nobody gives a fuck if you have a degree" 360704;1382976927;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 400 @ 0.0011 = 0.44 BTC [-] 360705;1382976936;nubbins`;anyway. walk around any campus and ask some young faces why they're there. see how many say "because my parents expect this of me". see how many are thinking the same but are ashamed to admit it. 360706;1382976943;nubbins`;can you think of a bigger waste of money? or TIME? 360707;1382976970;the20year;Personally, i try and develop a plan of finding people who can be motivated, either by time or money, then provide a roadmap so they can see how they will gain good income for working with me over a set period of time 360708;1382976972;jurov;as compared to? 360709;1382976977;jurov;nubbins`: ^ 360710;1382977001;the20year;I hate hourly pay, so what I typically offer is contract pricing, pay-for-performace models, so as they get better ,their wages automatically increase, and then if they don't work well they'll quit on their own without dragging down the company too much 360711;1382977003;nubbins`;as compared to spending time figuring out what you want from life 360712;1382977005;jurov;the20year: the coworking space i'm affiliated to, is trying exactly this 360713;1382977013;jurov;and it is all but easy 360714;1382977016;the20year;That's how I run RentalStarter, working with contractors 360715;1382977029;the20year;Hit the goals? You get a bonus. Miss them? You make less money 360716;1382977029;nubbins`;university is just a 4 (or more) year extension on the autopilot that's been running these kids' lives 360717;1382977039;the20year;Pretty much, they do what they're told without thinking 360718;1382977057;the20year;My cousin went to school for history, then he realized he can't get a job there, so now he's getting another degree in logistics 360719;1382977058;jurov;again, what alternative do you suggest? 360720;1382977082;the20year;I asked him "Who are you applying to after college" and he didn't think he could get employed ,even though a logistics degree is amazing to have 360721;1382977082;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 360722;1382977091;the20year;Build a business, learn to run it 360723;1382977101;jurov;you know, just telling them this outright does *not* work 360724;1382977105;nubbins`;i suggest not going to university. at least, not until you know what the fuck you want and have at least a general idea of how to get it 360725;1382977131;nubbins`;but suggestions are advice, and the funny thing about advice is that nobody wants to hear it until they're ready 360726;1382977138;the20year;Very true 360727;1382977149;nubbins`;and nobody's ready until they've sunk $60k into a degree in german film, or history, or biology 360728;1382977152;jurov;i could have had a business, even in opensource development long ago (nerd's wet dream i guess), but was afraid how to explain to everyone around 360729;1382977169;the20year;So why couldn't you explain it? 360730;1382977201;jurov;because...how it can be more important than school? 360731;1382977215;nubbins`;EVERYTHING IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN SCHOOL 360732;1382977224;the20year;Most will have to learn the hard way 360733;1382977231;nubbins`;NOBODY REALIZES THIS 360734;1382977246;the20year;I ask people to spend no less than 30 hours of research on the degree they want, speicifcally in how it will improve employability 360735;1382977258;the20year;I don't know how many people I know with psycology degrees who are flipping burgers still 360736;1382977270;nubbins`;science degrees are the biggest trick of all 360737;1382977271;jurov;also, i was not able to put consistent work output then due to psych problems 360738;1382977278;the20year;And I asked them all "When you saw that the unemployment rate for someone with that degree is 20% or more, why did you think it was a good idea?" 360739;1382977287;nubbins`;what the fuck are you gonna do with a biology degree? become a biologist? 360740;1382977296;nubbins`;great, how about the other 200 people in your graduating class? 360741;1382977303;nubbins`;working at pet stores and Liquor Mart 360742;1382977320;jurov;but they can't get somewhere where they have maths! even if their life depends on it... 360743;1382977366;nubbins`;now, to be fair, i'm squarely in the group of people who figured this all out after the fact 360744;1382977372;nubbins`;so it's not like i did things the smart way 360745;1382977398;nubbins`;but in my defense, i was told that this shit was basically a golden ticket 360746;1382977405;nubbins`;what a lel that was 360747;1382977453;nubbins`;the other half of this is that people tend to settle. "well, i'm done school, no more learning for me" 360748;1382977469;nubbins`;and they just stop taking in new information and learning new skills 360749;1382977482;KRS-;big mistake 360750;1382977504;nubbins`;that's almost worse, spinning your wheels so slowly that you don't even notice you're sinking into the mud 360751;1382977509;KRS-;thats what makes the difference between a ceo and someone who spends their life in their entry-level position 360752;1382977512;nubbins`;yes 360753;1382977588;nubbins`;but i think the problem in a lot of cases is that people just don't want anything 360754;1382977594;nubbins`;they're content to just float along 360755;1382977606;the20year;yep 360756;1382977613;the20year;Why not? The government will take care of them 360757;1382977624;nubbins`;every now and then they have an attack of guilt at the waste their life has become, but why dwell on that when it would take so much effort to change! 360758;1382977635;the20year;in modern society there's no problem, punishment or negative towards someone who doesn't want to do anything with life 360759;1382977712;bob_;not everything is more important than school. i'm looking at a resume right now that does not have a college listed, but does have that he attended "tony robbins - power to influence" 360760;1382977726;bob_;i'd rather see a degree 360761;1382977903;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 134 @ 0.00550271 = 0.7374 BTC [-] {7} 360762;1382977964;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 266 @ 0.00530292 = 1.4106 BTC [-] {8} 360763;1382978086;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 60 @ 0.00579997 = 0.348 BTC [+] 360764;1382978312;nubbins`;the20year: let me find you a quote 360765;1382978349;the20year;"Nothing in the world can take the place of Persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan 'Press On' has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race." 360766;1382978396;bob_;yeah, i think tony robbins said that. 360767;1382978452;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 61 @ 0.00540004 = 0.3294 BTC [-] 360768;1382978508;nubbins`;"The Brutor takes pride in the troubles of their life because it all adds to their stature. They marvel at failure, such as bad grades in school, or getting hassled by cops who tell them only to move along. ... Any punishment for his actions becomes a badge and holds no real consequence because jail is holding him back from nothing but killing time" 360769;1382978508;the20year;Calvin Coolidge 360770;1382978687;bob_;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYYp0TgNfGE 360771;1382978687;ozbot;Anthony Robbins- Tony Robbins Persist to Achieve - YouTube 360772;1382978696;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 100 @ 0.05611302 = 5.6113 BTC [-] {8} 360773;1382978879;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.399 BTC [+] 360774;1382978912;jurov;bullshit 360775;1382978944;jurov;it's impossible to some day decide "i'll be persistent" and stick to it for years 360776;1382978980;mircea_popescu;why ? 360777;1382978983;nubbins`;correct. persistence is a skill like any other 360778;1382978988;jurov;if you're otherwise happe and satiated 360779;1382978990;nubbins`;you need to work on it 360780;1382978991;jurov;*happy 360781;1382979008;nubbins`;jurov: happy and satiated are not synonyms 360782;1382979020;jurov;i did not say that 360783;1382979044;nubbins`;you came pretty close 360784;1382979054;nubbins`;many people are unhappy, yet satiated 360785;1382979066;nubbins`;that's what leads to change 360786;1382979086;nubbins`;being happy *and* satiated? you've got it knocked. don't change a thing. 360787;1382979090;jurov;man starts very unhappy or hungry. then one sets their goals to prevent it happening again 360788;1382979102;KRS-;a degree at the very least shows that someone can stick to something and complete it..for that, comes some value. as a hiring manager i'd rather see a degree. 360789;1382979121;nubbins`;KRS-: arguably the only concrete value a degree holds 360790;1382979146;nubbins`;but there are plenty of other ways to prove that 360791;1382979147;KRS-;the importance them comes down to whether or not you can tell if someone is just a good test taker or actually has knowledge and knows how to apply it 360792;1382979167;nubbins`;yes! 360793;1382979181;nubbins`;how many interviewees see it as yet another test that they must figure out how to pass 360794;1382979194;nubbins`;wholly missing the point of the entire exercise 360795;1382979207;nubbins`;and ending up in an unsatisfying job? 360796;1382979223;KRS-;but how many times have people been hired just because they can spit good game at an interview only to find out they are incompetent jerkoffs 360797;1382979234;nubbins`;plenty of those around, too 360798;1382979255;KRS-;salesmen come to mind 360799;1382979283;nubbins`;i used to work with a girl who had a B.Eng. with honors, and she wrote the worst code i've ever seen. variables called "resultset1" and "string3", seriously 360800;1382979298;nubbins`;"why the fuck did you guys hire her?" 360801;1382979304;nubbins`;"she was great in the interview" 360802;1382979313;kakobrekla;tits? 360803;1382979327;nubbins`;irrelevant, but no 360804;1382979329;the20year;interview = sacj 360805;1382979330;the20year;'*sack 360806;1382979344;nubbins`;no, she was just smart on paper and knew how to interview 360807;1382979361;KRS-;pfft 360808;1382979367;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 39 @ 0.00540004 = 0.2106 BTC [-] {2} 360809;1382979392;nubbins`;but that didn't quite overcome her crippling lack of social skills or job knowledge 360810;1382979401;nubbins`;go figure 360811;1382979406;dexX7;http://www.nasdaq.com/markets/ipos/company/winklevoss-bitcoin-trust-909930-72927 360812;1382979406;ozbot;WINKLEVOSS BITCOIN TRUST IPO - NASDAQ.com 360813;1382979454;the20year;Nice 360814;1382979480;jurov;mircea_popescu: seems my rant about not having spare machine for mpex got lost 360815;1382979499;jurov;but i insist, why you have to wait for The One Holy Server to be rebuilt? 360816;1382979547;nubbins`;<mircea_popescu> jurov because at some point your system is either cenrtralised or it isn't. 360817;1382979613;kakobrekla;yeah but reduncancy doenst have to kill centralisation 360818;1382979619;kakobrekla;ba 360819;1382979635;jurov;nubbins` how it precludes having regularly updated spare server? 360820;1382979644;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla the problem is centralisation + security as a combo. 360821;1382979665;nubbins`;jurov: shrug, i only paste ;) 360822;1382979666;mircea_popescu;you CAN seamlessly failover on errors, if the result of errors is nil and convenience of not having errors is what counts. 360823;1382979678;mircea_popescu;however, if the result of errors is not nil, you can't just shrug and move on 360824;1382979714;mircea_popescu;in my case, i have to, everytime something unexpected happens, see why the fuck it happened before i can move on 360825;1382979727;nubbins`;or, put another way, a backup box is no good if it's a backup of a compromised machine 360826;1382979732;mircea_popescu;exactly. 360827;1382979823;kakobrekla;well there you have it jurov! 360828;1382979830;kakobrekla;:> 360829;1382979913;jurov;hm... so next time psu or raid controller dies, we'll be few days offline, again. cuz it could been a hack? 360830;1382979919;bob_;right, but, if you had a backup, once you decided it was just a power problem that fried your drive, you could recover faster. 360831;1382979923;mircea_popescu;what do you want me to do ;/ 360832;1382979927;bob_;^ what jurov said 360833;1382979930;mircea_popescu;last time it was a motherfucking "hack" 360834;1382979938;mircea_popescu;or w/e successful social engineering 360835;1382979960;nubbins`;hm, bob makes a point 360836;1382979971;mircea_popescu;bob_ yes, in principle. see, here's the thing : the more complex the security model becomes, by that very fact the more complex recovery processes become 360837;1382979974;mircea_popescu;this is unavoidalbe. 360838;1382980000;mircea_popescu;at some point the dilemma is, "either people will complain becauyse it takes too long, or people will complain because x edge case wasn't covered in the security design" 360839;1382980005;mircea_popescu;also unavoidable. 360840;1382980042;bob_;agreed with the theory, but in practice you could probably reduce the downtime with some improvements to architecture. 360841;1382980042;jurov;i mean, if you can do process with one machine, you can do the same with the second one with small marginal costs 360842;1382980052;lewicki;.d 360843;1382980052;ozbot;390928787.63809 | Next Diff in 1552 blocks | Estimated Change: 24.0238% in 8d 4h 7m 29s 360844;1382980055;jurov;to have at least hardware fails covered 360845;1382980083;mircea_popescu;jurov yes, but then at some point you have machines in disagreement. how do you resolve this ? 360846;1382980100;mircea_popescu;also, machines don't cost 0. 360847;1382980118;mircea_popescu;so would you have a faster & better main server, or a shittier main so the back-up is there ? 360848;1382980137;mircea_popescu;depends, right ? if you never have catastrophic failures of the sort, the incremental gain from the better server is everyone's benefit. 360849;1382980151;mircea_popescu;however, if you do noboduy cares you were < .1 seconds forever, cause well... days offline. 360850;1382980186;jurov;well i'm all for shitty servers, and lots of them... you gonna scale up and hadle faults quickly someday anyway 360851;1382980219;mircea_popescu;anwyay, mpex is very much an adaptive beast. it's the best i can do, honestly, because i don't know the correct way to build bitcoin systems 360852;1382980221;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 130 @ 0.05510001 = 7.163 BTC [-] {2} 360853;1382980226;mircea_popescu;i daresay nobody does. we're finding out. 360854;1382980237;bob_;we are trying to figure that out :) since you don't allow high-frequency trading anyway, nobody cares if it's < .1 seconds or < .2 seconds. 360855;1382980260;Namworld;I'm alive 360856;1382980291;jurov;hi Namworld 360857;1382980295;mircea_popescu;bob_ except when ipo or w/e 360858;1382980311;mircea_popescu;yes, 99% of the time 99% of your shit isn't at work / needed. 360859;1382980376;kakobrekla;im just joking btw. i dont have a license to drive a bus. 360860;1382980489;bob_;so given that security is the most important thing, and we all understand the complexities involved, I think we can still agree that 2 days down for a failed hard drive probably warrents a blame-less post mortem with the goal of improving the system for the future? 360861;1382980549;mircea_popescu;blameless or blameful, you know ? what can i do, i'm doing it. 360862;1382980556;bob_;blameless. 360863;1382980569;bob_;glad to hear :) 360864;1382980572;mircea_popescu;but for all the shortcomings of distributed models, which exist, the centralised model has its problems. 360865;1382980742;jurov;well, just sayin'. maybe you study all chips with electron microscope and then second machine would really double whole expense... 360866;1382980782;mircea_popescu;well, see, before the 2nd drive went in and got fried, i had already sent the 1st to be cut up 360867;1382980797;mircea_popescu;so now i will get a pretty expensive lab bill saying "power fluctuations caused bla bla bla" 360868;1382981064;nubbins`;http://books.google.ca/books?id=f8gTJ3-MWzEC&pg=PA288 360869;1382981068;nubbins`;paragraphs 2-4 360870;1382981076;nubbins`;never trust a computer 360871;1382981186;pankkake;is it any good? I only read the Frank Herbert originals 360872;1382981238;nubbins`;a lot of people who like Frank's really dislike Brian's, but i enjoyed it 360873;1382981265;lurker;not the same style, not the same depth - forget the herbert name and it's decent 360874;1382981275;nubbins`;^ 360875;1382981280;pankkake;I see. thanks 360876;1382981502;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 150 @ 0.07374266 = 11.0614 BTC [+] {3} 360877;1382981807;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 90 @ 0.075 = 6.75 BTC [+] 360878;1382982033;nubbins`;http://imgur.com/Q61qWo3 360879;1382982176;dexX7;omg :D 360880;1382982191;nubbins`;cant stop laughing 360881;1382982478;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 24 @ 0.074 = 1.776 BTC [-] 360882;1382982539;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 100 @ 0.075 = 7.5 BTC [+] 360883;1382982600;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 10 @ 0.075 = 0.75 BTC [+] 360884;1382982662;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00530115 = 0.5301 BTC [+] {2} 360885;1382982722;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 96 @ 0.00530073 = 0.5089 BTC [-] {2} 360886;1382983507;kakobrekla;better http://imgur.com/a/usnAh 360887;1382983567;wao;:D 360888;1382984146;ThickAsThieves;http://buttcoin.org/cringiest-bitcoin-video-ever 360889;1382984340;kleeck;Oh... no. 360890;1382984345;kleeck;I just stopped it. 360891;1382984351;kleeck;I can't deal with that level of fail. 360892;1382984413;dexX7;lol wtf 360893;1382985101;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00569993 = 0.285 BTC [+] 360894;1382985162;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.00569993 = 0.114 BTC [+] {2} 360895;1382985224;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.005301 = 0.5301 BTC [-] {3} 360896;1382985589;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 450 @ 0.000499 = 0.2246 BTC [-] 360897;1382985650;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0056 = 0.56 BTC [-] 360898;1382986870;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.005391 = 0.5391 BTC [-] {3} 360899;1382987093;KRS-;lol jurov i'm in I.T. i feel your pain 360900;1382987236;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 470 @ 0.00049953 = 0.2348 BTC [+] {2} 360901;1382987433;jborkl;I am angry just watching that video 360902;1382987437;jborkl;what a moron 360903;1382987822;kakobrekla;well a little sync practice and is good to go 360904;1382987941;nubbins`;yeah 360905;1382987955;nubbins`;he obviously didn't do a dry run of his presentation before the real thing, hey? 360906;1382987998;jcpham;what is this video 360907;1382988186;jcpham;shouldn't adviser be advisor 360908;1382988203;nubbins`;i think a lot of things should be other things 360909;1382988221;jcpham;in areica there is no such thing as an adviser 360910;1382988229;jcpham;all i see are grammatical errors already 360911;1382988292;jcpham;first few notes of floyd and dancing lost me 360912;1382988410;[\];this made me lol http://buttcoin.org/the-reddit-bitcoin-tipping-bot-is-the-worst-way-to-promote-bitcoin-and-the-shills-wont-shut-up-about-it 360913;1382988638;kakobrekla;The whole r/bitcointip subreddit still doesnt tell me shit so I just google default bitcoin address and get this lovely address in return. 360914;1382988638;kakobrekla;1BitcoinEaterAddressDontSendf59kuE 360915;1382988638;kakobrekla;That seems like a good address. I decide to send my bitcoins there to that nice guy or gal can do something great in the world with that money. 360916;1382988639;kakobrekla;lol 360917;1382988648;nubbins`;heh 360918;1382989316;bob_;holee shit. asciilifeform - the force behind s.nsa - is from washington DC? conspiracy! 360919;1382989328;the20year;lol 360920;1382989335;the20year;what exchange? 360921;1382989342;dexX7;mpex 360922;1382989361;the20year;how difficult is it to get a lsiting on there? 360923;1382989406;kakobrekla;!jd 360924;1382989406;assbot;Just-Dice stat: 6106 BTC profit, 62.0k BTC invested, 210.04 mio bets, 4.29 mio BTC wagered 360925;1382989448;dexX7;i don't know, but mp is the one who approves the listings, i guess 360926;1382989512;the20year;trying to figure out what I should do if BF closes shop 360927;1382990774;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 52 @ 0.0053 = 0.2756 BTC [-] {4} 360928;1382990804;kakobrekla;go back to glbse? 360929;1382990806;kakobrekla;oh wait. 360930;1382990946;Diablo-D3;;;ticker 360931;1382990946;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 208.00200, Best ask: 209.50000, Bid-ask spread: 1.49800, Last trade: 209.49999, 24 hour volume: 10670.51827506, 24 hour low: 200.42000, 24 hour high: 209.79000, 24 hour vwap: 206.06603 360932;1382991201;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.5814 = 1.7442 BTC [-] 360933;1382991262;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5813 BTC [-] 360934;1382991323;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 27 @ 0.5720901 = 15.4464 BTC [-] {7} 360935;1382991445;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 54 @ 0.00522592 = 0.2822 BTC [-] {2} 360936;1382991699;nubbins`;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1pecgp/blockchaininfo_celebrates_500000_wallets_with/ 360937;1382991699;ozbot;Blockchain.info celebrates 500,000 wallets with free bitcoins : Bitcoin 360938;1382991728;nubbins`;site down 360939;1382991729;nubbins`;lel 360940;1382991792;asciilifeform;bob_: fact. 360941;1382992066;dub;fkn chemtrails 360942;1382992665;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.0051 = 0.102 BTC [-] 360943;1382994321;skinnkavaj;pankkake 360944;1382994327;skinnkavaj;Here is a new investment 360945;1382994328;skinnkavaj;https://www.litecoininvest.com/security/SKETIS.INVEST 360946;1382994337;skinnkavaj;They are a security exchange platform 360947;1382994342;ozbot;Litecoininvest 360948;1382994346;skinnkavaj;They will offer one platform for LTC, BTC and XPM 360949;1382994367;skinnkavaj;All profits from fee trading will bee through that SKETIS.INVEST 360950;1382994381;skinnkavaj;I think they will overtake a lot of Litecoinglboal and BTCT trading 360951;1382994393;skinnkavaj;And XPM security trading will be interesting. 360952;1382994418;Apocalyptic;<skinnkavaj> And XPM security trading will be interesting. // i lol'd 360953;1382994434;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 0.07599999 = 0.38 BTC [+] 360954;1382994448;skinnkavaj;Valuation for all 3 exchanges: 250K LTC.. Currently worth = 2782 BTC 360955;1382994466;skinnkavaj;It's an investment in both LTC and their 3 exchange platform. 360956;1382994472;pankkake;I've been thinking about starting an xpm mining operation (there are some cheap deals you can profit from), but it certainly wouldn't be denominated in xp 360957;1382994474;skinnkavaj;Apocalyptic: Tell me a better investment. 360958;1382994475;pankkake;m 360959;1382994484;dexX7;hm? 360960;1382994485;pankkake;xpm as a currency is stupid 360961;1382994489;Apocalyptic;^^ 360962;1382994496;dexX7;skinnkavaj: are you behind www.litecoininvest.com? 360963;1382994503;pankkake;the coin that can be 51% attacked with $1000 + amazon ec2 360964;1382994512;skinnkavaj;dexX7: Not behind it, but bought shares today. 360965;1382994527;dexX7;so are you operating a passthrough or what? 360966;1382994530;skinnkavaj;No no 360967;1382994548;Apocalyptic;skinnkavaj, "better" in what sense ? more reward potential ? less risky ? better ratio ? 360968;1382994550;skinnkavaj;SKETIS.INVEST is officially from Litecoininvest 360969;1382994591;dexX7;ah so you are just promoting it? 360970;1382994634;skinnkavaj;dexX7: No one has told me to do that. I do it because I am a share holder, this is asset channel and to rub profits in pankkake and Apocalyptics face latero n. 360971;1382994658;dexX7;i'm just asking 360972;1382994670;dexX7;because it wasn't clear what your role was 360973;1382994679;dexX7;and skinn... and sketis sound more or less similar D: 360974;1382994728;skinnkavaj;This week they will be launching their BTC security exchange 360975;1382994759;skinnkavaj;I have no URL though. It's not presented yet. 360976;1382994772;dexX7;i have it 360977;1382994775;dexX7;:D 360978;1382994841;dexX7;he should open a thread on btctalk 360979;1382996343;mod6;speaking of bad drives, my lappy drive died also :< 360980;1382996436;jurov;RIP. these fkn chemtrails, you know. 360981;1382996513;mod6;ya srsly. 360982;1382997362;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 47 @ 0.0053 = 0.2491 BTC [+] 360983;1382997607;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.00534941 = 0.1337 BTC [+] 360984;1382999921;pankkake;http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-24486685 RIP USD 360985;1382999922;ozbot;BBC News - China and ECB sign $57bn currency swap deal 360986;1383000200;jurov;;;ticker 360987;1383000201;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 206.99000, Best ask: 207.40932, Bid-ask spread: 0.41932, Last trade: 206.96100, 24 hour volume: 10522.93290146, 24 hour low: 200.42000, 24 hour high: 209.79000, 24 hour vwap: 206.35675 360988;1383000551;wao;;;bcstats 360989;1383000554;gribble;Current Blocks: 266611 | Current Difficulty: 3.9092878763808584E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 268127 | Next Difficulty In: 1516 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 14 hours, 43 minutes, and 38 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 477002656.823 | Estimated Percent Change: 22.01779 360990;1383000895;lurker;;;market buy 100000 360991;1383000897;gribble;This order would exceed the size of the order book. You would buy 37088.785 bitcoins, for a total of 6626978770.6762 USD and take the price to 99999999999.0000. | Data vintage: 0.0037 seconds 360992;1383000938;lurker;samn, I wanted to buy for 20M$ in BTC. I guess the Vii will have to be patient... 360993;1383000961;pankkake;it's probably only looking at mtgox though 360994;1383000991;lurker;;;market buy 20000 360995;1383000991;gribble;A market order to buy 20000 bitcoins right now would take 4511753.5588 USD and would take the last price up to 248.6458 USD, resulting in an average price of 225.5877 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 94.1080 seconds 360996;1383001004;lurker;;;market buy 50000 360997;1383001004;gribble;This order would exceed the size of the order book. You would buy 37088.785 bitcoins, for a total of 6626978770.6762 USD and take the price to 99999999999.0000. | Data vintage: 107.4166 seconds 360998;1383001010;lurker;;;market buy 40000 360999;1383001010;gribble;This order would exceed the size of the order book. You would buy 37088.785 bitcoins, for a total of 6626978770.6762 USD and take the price to 99999999999.0000. | Data vintage: 113.4446 seconds 361000;1383001017;lurker;meh 361001;1383001017;pankkake;perhaps they'll buy DPR's coins! 361002;1383001031;lurker;no, Ripple! 361003;1383001050;pankkake;yeah, the advantage is that there is no shortage of them :p 361004;1383001055;mircea_popescu;lol 361005;1383001061;mircea_popescu;37k all the btc left, srsly ? 361006;1383001074;lurker;print'em! 361007;1383001114;dexX7;here is a nice way to track the books: http://blockchained.com/depth_mtgox_15d.png 361008;1383001152;smickles;i might be here now 361009;1383001205;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 16 @ 0.31501013 = 5.0402 BTC [-] {3} 361010;1383001266;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.31501012 = 0.63 BTC [-] {2} 361011;1383001277;dexX7;there is another really awesome graph i stumbled upon lately: http://coinsight.org/graphs/reddit_subscribers.png :D 361012;1383001291;pankkake;lol 361013;1383001388;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.31501009 = 1.26 BTC [-] {2} 361014;1383001449;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 9 @ 0.31500016 = 2.835 BTC [-] 361015;1383001505;lurker;;;ticker --market all 361016;1383001516;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD last: 207.99400, vol: 10505.75742485 | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 195.37, vol: 12532.34495373 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 188.88, vol: 8286.85443 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 195.85, vol: 3319.8770489 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 185.98, vol: 336.11482793 | Volume-weighted last average: 197.579214505 361017;1383002791;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.00105014 = 0.105 BTC [-] {4} 361018;1383003066;ThickAsThieves;http://bitcoinmagazine.com/7798/decentralization-key-to-bitcoins-success/ 361019;1383003083;ThickAsThieves;decentralize all the things! 361020;1383003431;lurker;TAT: decentralization is essential. BTC enemy n°1 is centralization (51% yada yada) 361021;1383003482;pankkake;centralization is often misunderstood. for instance, mining isn't becoming centralized 361022;1383003483;lurker;BTC can't survive without being decentralized enough. 361023;1383003522;lurker;pankakke: it's being concentrated ATM 361024;1383003540;lurker;pankkake* sry :) 361025;1383003555;pankkake;I highlight all spellings :p 361026;1383003581;lurker;technically, it's not a spelling mistake since it's a name :P 361027;1383003693;Bugpowder;ThickAsThieves: Did you short your AM PTs all the way down? 361028;1383003722;Bugpowder;Looks like my call to short it at 1BTC would have been profitable, if I had pulled the trigged and not gotten stopped out. :-P 361029;1383003791;mircea_popescu;lurker how do you know all this ? 361030;1383003953;mircea_popescu;i mean "BTC can't survive without being decentralized enough". what's enough and how do you know ? 361031;1383004125;lurker;pandora's box 361032;1383004136;lurker;gimme a min :) 361033;1383004194;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 877 @ 0.00501262 = 4.3961 BTC [-] {16} 361034;1383004686;lurker;mircea_popescu: there might be a way to attack this mathematically but I don't know if there is an exact answer to "how much". The extreme min. would be to have 2 trusted but untrusting miners. 361035;1383004738;lurker;However, that means a lot of centralization will have happened. 361036;1383004770;lurker;I can see this if these 2 miners are, say, banks, with lots of customers, all using bitcoin. 361037;1383004785;lurker;The problem is getting from where we are to there. 361038;1383004899;lurker;ATM, bitcoin survives on geek greediness and criminals. 361039;1383004918;lurker;They don't want centralization. 361040;1383005170;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 195 @ 0.005 = 0.975 BTC [-] 361041;1383005410;lurker;If the winkelvoss types start "attacking" the bitcoin market, it will have the effect of a middlecoin on the latest scamcoin. 361042;1383005569;mircea_popescu;i think you're jumping to conclusions on very little data, and the shape of those conclusions is visibly more influenced by your own ideas of the world than the actual reality of the matter 361043;1383005640;lurker;you might be right, but it's gut feeling. 361044;1383005670;lurker;that's the kind of thing you "just know" but you can't put it into works (2 different parts of the brain) 361045;1383005682;lurker;words* 361046;1383005712;lurker;(and it's late - I'm not particularly articulate at this hour) 361047;1383005772;mircea_popescu;right. 361048;1383005784;lurker;anyway, the centralization/decentralizatio n"issue" in bitcoin always struck me as ironic. 361049;1383005806;mircea_popescu;why ? 361050;1383005834;lurker;the fact that there is a "51%" problem at all for a system based on trust/demand/decentralization 361051;1383005859;lurker;that means the weakness of bitcoin IS centralization 361052;1383005993;lurker;when you have centralization, you lose trust and without it you lose demand and value. 361053;1383006039;mircea_popescu;the system is not based on "trust/demand/decentralization". the system is based on the blockchain because it has to use some solution for the byzantyne problem once it's decentralised. 361054;1383006053;mircea_popescu;the 51% attack is a weakness of the particular solution used to implement decentralisation. 361055;1383006066;mircea_popescu;it' 361056;1383006073;mircea_popescu;s important to put these things in their right order. 361057;1383006112;lurker;decentralization/trust/demand 361058;1383006124;mircea_popescu;uh, not THOSE things. 361059;1383006137;mircea_popescu;those things are by and large irrelevant in this discussion. 361060;1383006157;lurker;hmmmm 361061;1383006173;mircea_popescu;looky here. you decide to make a system. next step, is to decide whether it shall be centralised or decentralised. 361062;1383006185;lurker;are we talking markets or technology? 361063;1383006190;mircea_popescu;if you take the former, you can asume the implementation is friendly. 361064;1383006204;mircea_popescu;if you take the latter, you can't so asume. the implementation has to be somehow forced to stick to the design 361065;1383006260;lurker;ripple is friendly? 361066;1383006267;mircea_popescu;the particular way bitcoin forces this is through the blockchain. 361067;1383006279;mircea_popescu;friendly to the design, not friendly to you. 361068;1383006287;mircea_popescu;(design) ? (implementation) 361069;1383006323;lurker;back to my earlier questions: are you discussing technology or market (money)? 361070;1383006348;mircea_popescu;this distinction doesn't work in bitcoin as you'd expect. 361071;1383006382;lurker;you're right, and wrong. 361072;1383006395;mircea_popescu;anyway, a very simple example to understand what i mean : suppose the law says nobody may search your house without a warrant. 361073;1383006412;mircea_popescu;what makes the actual cop at your door (implementation) follow this principle (design) ? 361074;1383006436;mircea_popescu;in a centralised system, the assumption is that the implementation is friendly to the design, and the cop will do what the fuck the law says he should do. 361075;1383006453;lurker;I'm crystal on your meaning, no sweat. 361076;1383006453;mircea_popescu;as the implementation becomes less centralised (for instance through the workings of democracy, and lawmakers pushing agendas etc), 361077;1383006457;mircea_popescu;the cop of today can't be so trusted. 361078;1383006613;lurker;It comes down to the same thing: can you be sure that system is doing what you expect it to? (= do you trust the system) 361079;1383006653;mircea_popescu;yes, it does. being happy always boils down to 1. identify what to do to be happy and 2. doing that. 361080;1383006695;lurker;Trust is what the blockcahin builds. 361081;1383006756;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.31500016 BTC [-] 361082;1383006758;lurker;Many miners (many copies of the blockchain) builds trust in the blockchain itself. 361083;1383006771;lurker;kind of a quorum. 361084;1383006797;lurker;or quanta, à la gold value. 361085;1383006827;lurker;Then comes demand for the quanta and that creates value. 361086;1383006843;asciilifeform;lurker: L. Lamport. "The Byzantine Generals Problem." 361087;1383006845;asciilifeform;http://www.cs.cornell.edu/courses/cs614/2004sp/papers/lsp82.pdf 361088;1383006871;asciilifeform;read and then come back... 361089;1383006942;asciilifeform;(and then he'll come back and ask why 51% attack in btc, and not a 67% attack. and it'll be fair.) 361090;1383006997;mircea_popescu;for that matter, demand does not create value. value creates demand. 361091;1383007013;mircea_popescu;this is why the qe does not improve the position of the us. 361092;1383007041;lurker;asciilifeform: I'm not looking at it from the technology standpoint. 361093;1383007089;lurker;mircea_popescu: chicken or egg? 361094;1383007109;lurker;you can't have value before you have demand. 361095;1383007116;asciilifeform;lurker: unless you know the theoretical limits of the tech, you're stuck pontificating. 361096;1383007160;asciilifeform;sorta like people who ponder solutions to energy crisis without ever having heard of thermodynamical laws, the carnot engine, etc. 361097;1383007162;mircea_popescu;in a sense, the tech creates the ontological limits of the discourse. this is not visible as much in "classical" applications, because somehow it's obvious that your particular abilities to deal with weak nuclear force are involved. 361098;1383007181;mircea_popescu;but in more advanced applications, there's little way to distinguish between "tech" and "the rules of the world" 361099;1383007217;lurker;OK, so what, for you, creates the value of bitcoin? 361100;1383007235;mircea_popescu;the fact that it gives better answers to several classes of problems 361101;1383007246;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/category/bitcoin/ 361102;1383007246;ozbot;Bitcoin pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 361103;1383007253;mircea_popescu;read through there, i've written out many cases. 361104;1383007502;VanCleef;bitcoin is a new global scam tho 361105;1383007589;lurker;mircea_popescu: I don't see anything that would put value before demand. 361106;1383007604;mircea_popescu;VanCleef you're not even kidding, i get a lot of (mostly, older, mostly white, mostly male, republican types) very indignant at how they knoiw btc to be a scam 361107;1383007643;asciilifeform;has nobody ever heard of 'hawala'? 361108;1383007667;asciilifeform;they've been doing 'bitcoin' since the caliphs. 361109;1383007767;mircea_popescu;and they had a pretty good solution for the byzantine generals, rtoo. 361110;1383007961;VanCleef;it is a scam 361111;1383007968;VanCleef;looking at what happening to mining 361112;1383007975;dexX7;hey asciilifeform, do you have a blog or something similar, too? it's not the first time i see you posting something interesting 361113;1383007975;VanCleef;taking satoshi to court over this 361114;1383007996;asciilifeform;dexX7: sure. 'loper-os.org'. 361115;1383008017;dexX7;ah ty 361116;1383008095;asciilifeform;VanCleef: say you're trying to catch a bus, and run late. you run after it, and jump, don't quite make it, fall into traffic. the end. buses are a scam? 361117;1383008216;mircea_popescu;yes. 361118;1383008219;mircea_popescu;definitely. 361119;1383008236;VanCleef;what do buses have to do with scamming people out of money? 361120;1383008252;VanCleef;catching a bus isn't involving yourself with a pyramid scheme 361121;1383008413;lurker;asciilifeform/mircea_popescu: bitcoin is a bus. do you care what engine it has? (on this, night night / arrevedere) 361122;1383008493;VanCleef;think of it more like this 361123;1383008525;VanCleef;say you spent 100grand on a bus ticket right and instead of the bus driver picking you up he crashes into your living room and starts raping your grandmother 361124;1383008536;VanCleef;you wouldn't get a bit upset? 361125;1383008577;skinnkavaj;Anyone here remember what price Litecoinglobal shares was at launch? 361126;1383008595;asciilifeform;VanCleef: are you thinking of something other than the difficulty increase? 361127;1383008609;asciilifeform;because the latter is in no way a surprise 361128;1383008827;mircea_popescu;perhaps a surprise in degree, but certainly not in kind 361129;1383008988;Kleeck_;who runs litecoinglobal? 361130;1383008992;Kleeck_;not burnside, I take it 361131;1383009002;dexX7;he did 361132;1383009014;Kleeck_;he sold it? 361133;1383009029;dexX7;hm? 361134;1383009036;dexX7;he was the admin there the whole time 361135;1383009063;Kleeck_;I was told that the site was coming back into operation? 361136;1383009070;Kleeck_;Maybe I was ill informed. 361137;1383009125;dexX7;ah, i think you mistake it with www.litecoininvest.com? 361138;1383010477;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 23 @ 0.00501 = 0.1152 BTC [+] 361139;1383011083;samson_;!dgc 361140;1383011204;samson_;!offline 361141;1383011218;samson_;oops - sorry - wrong channel 361142;1383011433;KRS1;hi 361143;1383012587;mircea_popescu;There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge. 361144;1383012594;mircea_popescu;let's play guess the author 361145;1383012607;asciilifeform;naggum? 361146;1383012662;mircea_popescu;hehe nope. sci fi guy. 361147;1383012689;asciilifeform;heinlein? 361148;1383012699;mircea_popescu;nope. 361149;1383013040;KRS1;my god people you have google and you still get it wrong 361150;1383013198;nubbins`;foundation, good books 361151;1383013277;mircea_popescu;yeh 361152;1383014974;dub;chopra? 361153;1383015195;mircea_popescu;chopra ? 361154;1383015880;dub;deepak 361155;1383016184;mircea_popescu;nah. 361156;1383016882;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 133 @ 0.00534938 = 0.7115 BTC [-] 361157;1383018529;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.59999 = 3 BTC [+] 361158;1383018712;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6 BTC [+] 361159;1383021547;nubbins`;http://imgur.com/Lu5cWik 361160;1383021547;ozbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 361161;1383021555;nubbins`;from the next zine we're publishing 361162;1383021582;nubbins`;his face makes me feel funny :( 361163;1383023775;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 250 @ 0.00045003 = 0.1125 BTC [-] 361164;1383023897;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.00534938 = 1.0699 BTC [-] {4} 361165;1383024068;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/the-perfect-escrow/ << wanna hear opinions 361166;1383024069;ozbot;The perfect escrow pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 361167;1383025056;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 59 @ 0.00535 = 0.3157 BTC [+] 361168;1383039635;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 27 @ 0.00511 = 0.138 BTC [-] 361169;1383040245;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 2000 @ 0.00500135 = 10.0027 BTC [-] {8} 361170;1383040306;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 868 @ 0.005 = 4.34 BTC [-] {3} 361171;1383040916;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 48 @ 0.00511 = 0.2453 BTC [+] 361172;1383041465;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0050539 = 0.5054 BTC [-] {2} 361173;1383042075;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 99 @ 0.00503001 = 0.498 BTC [-] 361174;1383043742;skinnkavaj;pankkake 361175;1383043759;skinnkavaj;So tonight Gavin Andresen made changes to Litecoin source code 361176;1383043767;skinnkavaj;And many other developers 361177;1383043784;skinnkavaj;LTC is used as a testing ground 361178;1383043825;skinnkavaj;And you think LTC is uselesss? You are useless for thinking that 361179;1383043832;skinnkavaj;Open your mind 361180;1383043836;skinnkavaj;Think outside of the box 361181;1383044637;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 60 @ 0.0052 = 0.312 BTC [+] 361182;1383044769;jurov;bitcoin every day, litecoin every night. cool! 361183;1383044798;VanCleef;litecoin a new scam by satoshi 361184;1383044964;jurov;at least they are classy. unlike xrrrrrp 361185;1383045056;pankkake;skinnkavaj: *I* made changes to the litecoin source code. are you flabbergasted yet? 361186;1383045134;pankkake;skinnkavaj: could you point out the commits? I have a feeling you don't know how git works 361187;1383045328;Apocalyptic;pankkake, i totally am 361188;1383045337;Apocalyptic;we should label you the LTC developper 361189;1383045344;pankkake;:D 361190;1383045393;pankkake;however it's interesting to node that wtogami contributes a lot to bitcoin 361191;1383045397;pankkake;note 361192;1383046056;bitesak;;;ticker 361193;1383046057;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 207.48043, Best ask: 208.28998, Bid-ask spread: 0.80955, Last trade: 208.28998, 24 hour volume: 5828.45863154, 24 hour low: 204.02000, 24 hour high: 209.79000, 24 hour vwap: 206.99371 361194;1383046101;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.00272953 = 1.3648 BTC [-] {3} 361195;1383046162;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 250 @ 0.00272999 = 0.6825 BTC [+] {3} 361196;1383046223;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 770 @ 0.00273876 = 2.1088 BTC [+] {3} 361197;1383046225;bitesak;so it seems ltc hasn't reached the bottom yet 361198;1383046345;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1590 @ 0.0027877 = 4.4324 BTC [+] 361199;1383047164;KRS1;It will reach the bottom when you click this 361200;1383047164;KRS1;http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcdzlvKvwB1rjr229o1_1280.jpg 361201;1383047242;bitesak;done 361202;1383047824;bitesak;http://www.news.com.au/money/money-matters/norwegian-student-kristoffer-koch-buys-27-in-bitcoin-in-2009-now-he-owns-an-apartment/story-e6frfmd9-1226748159679 361203;1383047824;ozbot;Norwegian student Kristoffer Koch buys $27 in bitcoin in 2009, now he owns an apartment | 361204;1383048053;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69348300 BTC to 1`386`966 shares, 50 satoshi per share 361205;1383048191;KRS1;good article 361206;1383048228;kakobrekla;is short "Look bitch, its 200 now, shut the fuck up from now on." 361207;1383048242;kakobrekla;in short* 361208;1383048290;kakobrekla;ok WTF 361209;1383048332;kakobrekla;plus 500 tells me, most popular forex pairs last 3 days: first EURUSD, second BITCOIN/USD, third EUR/JPY 361210;1383048334;kakobrekla;wtf 361211;1383048506;ThickerThanThiev;Bitcoin Pride is for sale, heh - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=320690.msg3341965;topicseen#new 361212;1383048530;kakobrekla;um 361213;1383048535;kakobrekla;didnt that thing ipo or something? 361214;1383048550;bitesak;popular in terms of word of mouth or something, obviously not volume.. yet 361215;1383048567;kakobrekla;bitesak it doest say 361216;1383048570;ThickerThanThiev;$20k in sales 361217;1383048570;kakobrekla;also they trade CFD 361218;1383048578;kakobrekla;so it does not affect the market 361219;1383048581;ThickerThanThiev;"No forced buyback may be enforced for shares of BitPride." 361220;1383048589;kakobrekla;cause they are a bucket shop 361221;1383048609;ThickerThanThiev;so they are selling an already sold co 361222;1383048663;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 15 @ 0.00779987 = 0.117 BTC [-] 361223;1383048740;kakobrekla;you mean like EV sold SD twice? 361224;1383048741;kakobrekla;:) 361225;1383048772;kakobrekla;anyway not sure what their contract says 361226;1383048776;kakobrekla;if they even have one 361227;1383048832;kleeck;Ah, Healthcare.gov... 361228;1383048839;kleeck;What a beautiful mess. 361229;1383048887;kleeck;I logged on just to see what all the fuss is about. Yup. Worst $1B Website ever. 361230;1383048915;kakobrekla;whats wrong? 361231;1383048919;kakobrekla;no facebook login? 361232;1383048925;kleeck;Hahaha. 361233;1383048930;kleeck;Everything is wrong. 361234;1383048942;kleeck;Hardly anyone can get through to SEE a quote. 361235;1383048966;kleeck;You have to fill out pages on pages of household info - think doing your taxes just to see if the USG can do anything for you. 361236;1383048983;kleeck;It's abysmal. 361237;1383048984;kakobrekla;aha 361238;1383048993;kakobrekla;sucks for mericans 361239;1383049013;kleeck;I'm sure I won't qualify for anything better than my work provides, but I wanted to check it. 361240;1383049028;kleeck;I couldn't even get past the household information section. It just locked up. 361241;1383049048;kakobrekla;lolk 361242;1383049054;kleeck;Maybe I can SQL inject my info... 361243;1383049083;kleeck;I decided to chat with one of ther operators. A feature that actually worked. 361244;1383049088;kleeck;That was fun. 361245;1383049115;kakobrekla;how come? 361246;1383049130;kleeck;To see if there was a solution to getting through the fucking form. 361247;1383049132;kleeck;lol 361248;1383049136;kleeck;Here's an excerpt: 361249;1383049137;kleeck;[08:09:49 am]: CALLER 361250;1383049137;kleeck;How is it that $600M doesn't at LEAST get me through the form section. 361251;1383049137;kleeck;[08:09:54 am]: CALLER 361252;1383049137;kleeck;I mean. I'm filling in fields on a form... 361253;1383049137;kleeck;[08:10:46 am]: Marissa 361254;1383049140;kleeck;Even though we can provide you with information about the Marketplace, we cannot give our opinions or advice about your health care options. We can provide you with the facts and help you understand your choices. If you need additional support, you can reach out to the consumer assistance programs within your state 361255;1383049145;kleeck;[08:11:05 am]: CALLER 361256;1383049148;kleeck;Ouch... macro'd. 361257;1383049151;kleeck;[08:11:33 am]: CALLER 361258;1383049155;kleeck;Fair enough, Marissa. I know you didn't build this magnificent beast. 361259;1383049157;kleeck;[08:11:45 am]: CALLER 361260;1383049158;kleeck;Have a good day. 361261;1383049161;kleeck;< CALLER 361262;1383049179;kleeck;Poor call center people... 361263;1383049198;kakobrekla;how is it a call if its a text 361264;1383049210;kleeck;It isn't... 361265;1383049215;kleeck;Here's a better bit: 361266;1383049215;kleeck;[08:06:19 am]: CALLER 361267;1383049215;kleeck;I guess I'll just have to check back when the US Gov learns how to build a proper website. 361268;1383049215;kleeck;[08:06:47 am]: Marissa 361269;1383049215;kleeck;Unfortunately the website will not let you go any further due to the technical issue. You can call the Marketplace and they can pick up your app where you left off if you would like. 361270;1383049217;kleeck;[08:06:48 am]: CALLER 361271;1383049219;kleeck;This whole internet thing is pretty new, so I'll cut them some slack. 361272;1383049221;kleeck;[08:07:08 am]: Marissa 361273;1383049223;kleeck;Thank you for being so patient, 361274;1383049225;kleeck;[08:07:19 am]: CALLER 361275;1383049227;kleeck;Oh, of course. 361276;1383049234;kleeck;:) 361277;1383049239;kakobrekla;this gets transcribed automagically?! 361278;1383049262;kleeck;Eh? 361279;1383049266;kleeck;Copy and Paste? 361280;1383049273;kakobrekla;so not a call. 361281;1383049276;kleeck;No. 361282;1383049279;kakobrekla;aa. 361283;1383049279;kakobrekla;ok 361284;1383049279;kleeck;It was a chat session. 361285;1383049282;kleeck;Built into the site. 361286;1383049283;kleeck;Sorry. 361287;1383049287;kakobrekla;is what boggled me 361288;1383049290;kleeck;ah 361289;1383049290;kakobrekla;no worries 361290;1383049290;kleeck;lol 361291;1383049325;kakobrekla;ah well 361292;1383049346;kakobrekla;i guess noone properly tested the shit 361293;1383049368;kleeck;The site was $600,000 before what they're calling "The Tech Surge" - meaning they hired even more incompetent people to work for time and half or double time. 361294;1383049394;kleeck;They imposed their own deadline on applications, then realized their site doesn't work to GET the applications. 361295;1383049401;kleeck;But you can fill out a paper form and mail it in... 361296;1383049414;kakobrekla;it just wouldnt look as good with only 60k on the bill. 361297;1383049456;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 9 @ 0.06010002 = 0.5409 BTC [-] 361298;1383049462;kleeck;In my experience with systems architecture, having MORE people working on isolating the problem doesn't make anything better. 361299;1383049476;kleeck;If anything, for me, it has slowed down processes . 361300;1383049478;kakobrekla;are they getting it fixd now? 361301;1383049617;kleeck;They're trying. 361302;1383050003;ThickAsThieves;People act like they never had to deal with a broken website before 361303;1383050028;ThickAsThieves;or that a new national healthcare website having problems is a travesty 361304;1383050048;ThickAsThieves;it was probly some Tea Party web devs that sabotaged it anyway 361305;1383050072;ThickAsThieves;people need to just calm down and "get off the forums" 361306;1383050137;bitesak;It seems more of a symptom than the real problem 361307;1383050172;ThickAsThieves;the real problem being that humans are human? 361308;1383050191;kakobrekla;the real problem is chemtrailz 361309;1383050208;deadweasel;and HAARP 361310;1383050234;bitesak;the real problem is that there is no problem 361311;1383050326;bidji;There is a 4 Millions $ IPO of mcxNOW right now! At https://mcxnow.com/buymcx.html . It's a Bitcoin Exchange. You can follow it in realtime. 361312;1383050368;bidji;it's currently only for the existing holder, but it will open to the public in ~64hours 361313;1383050502;bitesak;where does the 4 million figure come from? 361314;1383050535;kakobrekla;the formula is: 1*ScamFactor 361315;1383050590;bitesak;12288 accounts ! 361316;1383050621;kakobrekla;reddit has more 361317;1383050624;Apocalyptic;kakobrekla, guess ScamFactor is pretty high 361318;1383050624;kakobrekla;and its worth 5$ 361319;1383050642;kakobrekla;ok 8$, cause of the emails. 361320;1383050658;ThickAsThieves;isnt mcxnow a ponzi? 361321;1383050731;Apocalyptic;http://thecryptoblog.com/realsolid-needs-money2012-realsolid-has-money2013-can-you-trust-mcxnow/ 361322;1383050764;kakobrekla;dunno but he sounds really solid guy! 361323;1383050769;Apocalyptic;indeed 361324;1383050788;skinnkavaj;ThickAsThieves: Not a ponzi. It's legit. But still a high price. 361325;1383050796;skinnkavaj;The interest is made from all trading fees. 361326;1383050799;bitesak;it smells like and until proven otherwise, it shall or should be treated as such 361327;1383050801;kakobrekla;A legit ponzi. 361328;1383050801;ThickAsThieves;how is it legit? 361329;1383050814;ThickAsThieves;dont they pay you to carry a balance? 361330;1383050815;skinnkavaj;ThickAsThieves: How can you even throw a word like ponzi 361331;1383050820;skinnkavaj;Do you know what it means? 361332;1383050822;ThickAsThieves;lol 361333;1383050829;skinnkavaj;Please 361334;1383050834;skinnkavaj;The interst is made from 361335;1383050835;kakobrekla;its a surname doh! 361336;1383050838;pankkake;ThickAsThieves: yes, but it's from the trading fees only 361337;1383050838;skinnkavaj;all trading fees 361338;1383050851;ThickAsThieves;do they or do they not have services that pay you to simply hold money there? 361339;1383050852;skinnkavaj;ThickAsThieves: Seriously shut the fuck up. 361340;1383050858;bitesak;and only trading fees, not the balance ! 361341;1383050864;skinnkavaj;Don't open your mouth and throw words like poni without knowing anthing. 361342;1383050871;ThickAsThieves;dude shut up 361343;1383050872;pankkake;ponies 361344;1383050874;kakobrekla;NO PONY 361345;1383050875;bitesak;Amazing 361346;1383050894;pankkake;mcxnow is a pony exchange? now I want in 361347;1383050897;skinnkavaj;Everything that is not understood is ponzi 361348;1383050899;dexX7;"dividends" are paid out with trading fees for "fee shares", trading "fee shares" generates fees 361349;1383050906;kakobrekla;also has racehorces from ireland. 361350;1383050911;skinnkavaj;Reminsd me of when trying to explain bitcoin 361351;1383050913;skinnkavaj;PONZI 361352;1383050919;skinnkavaj;ThickAsThieves LOL 361353;1383050919;ThickAsThieves;bitcoin is a ponzi 361354;1383050928;kakobrekla;but not a pony. 361355;1383050934;skinnkavaj;PONI 361356;1383050937;ThickAsThieves;def not a poni 361357;1383050971;skinnkavaj;I think all exchanges should take over after mcxNOW model 361358;1383050977;skinnkavaj;Share trading fee profits with users. 361359;1383050980;skinnkavaj;Would be fair. 361360;1383050982;ThickAsThieves;"Join the investment class today and start the wealth creation process!" is their main headline 361361;1383050998;ThickAsThieves;suatmm! 361362;1383051011;skinnkavaj;ThickAsThieves: Yeah. But not a ponzi sceheme. Seriously don't use that word. 361363;1383051026;skinnkavaj;It makes you classified retarded in public if you do. 361364;1383051027;VanCleef;triangle scheme? 361365;1383051036;VanCleef;pyramid 361366;1383051040;ThickAsThieves;i guess i'm retarded 361367;1383051056;skinnkavaj;ThickAsThieves: Not retarded 361368;1383051059;skinnkavaj;But you went full retrd 361369;1383051061;skinnkavaj;Never go full retard. 361370;1383051068;dexX7;by the way: https://coinfloor.co.uk 361371;1383051069;ThickAsThieves;and skinnkavaj is the wise one 361372;1383051102;pankkake;even a broken clock is right twice a day 361373;1383051144;Apocalyptic;<skinnkavaj> But you went full retrd // you're telling that to TAT, rofl 361374;1383051144;ThickAsThieves;mcxnow bid book for ltc is 74btc total 361375;1383051184;skinnkavaj;Apocalyptic: Like TAT is some holy god. I have much respect for TAT. But almost lost it now when he throw a word like ponzi, without any resarch. 361376;1383051192;pankkake;it's just after btc-e in volume according to cryptocoincharts, though 361377;1383051206;ThickAsThieves;stinkavag, when i say ponzi, all i mean is that they are not making as much profit as are gicing out 361378;1383051209;ThickAsThieves;giving* 361379;1383051220;ThickAsThieves;so this new IPO is likely the cash out 361380;1383051237;ThickAsThieves;and if people still believe after this, maybe theyll milk some more 361381;1383051237;skinnkavaj;ThickAsThieves: Seriously, google ponzi sceheme. I think you and many else need to learn what it means. 361382;1383051246;pankkake;lol 361383;1383051256;ThickAsThieves;dude 361384;1383051260;VanCleef;this is like the asicminer scam all over again this mcxnow 361385;1383051279;kakobrekla;wut?! 361386;1383051280;ThickAsThieves;so mcxnow gets all these idiots to deposit their coin 361387;1383051286;ThickAsThieves;and divs are paid usign the deposits 361388;1383051299;Apocalyptic;ThickAsThieves, you figured it out 361389;1383051310;ThickAsThieves;yeah, a poni 361390;1383051339;skinnkavaj;ThickAsThieves: If you think about it, it's genius and have very good reason to be legit. By giving out 25% of all profit generated, they draw attention from users and from investors. And they are more likely to trade there. I am not affilaited with the site, but I saw it's potential early. 361391;1383051345;skinnkavaj;It's a really good exchange, you cannot take away that. 361392;1383051356;ThickAsThieves;what profit? 361393;1383051362;dexX7;and divs are paid usign the deposits << afaik by trading fees, not deposits - deposits receive a fraction of the fees though 361394;1383051366;ThickAsThieves;from scamming depositors? 361395;1383051368;skinnkavaj;ThickAsThieves: You know all exchanges have trading fees? 361396;1383051372;skinnkavaj;Like 0.2% on all trades. 361397;1383051381;ThickAsThieves;they do!? 361398;1383051384;ThickAsThieves;this changes everything 361399;1383051387;dexX7;lol 361400;1383051387;pankkake;ThickAsThieves: it's not a fixed interest. it's a part of the trading fees 361401;1383051392;skinnkavaj;They also have in their trollbox, something called payed bans. You can pay and ban anyone you want from typing in chat. 361402;1383051396;skinnkavaj;Pretty hilarious function. 361403;1383051401;kakobrekla;dexX7: thats nefarios thing 361404;1383051404;dexX7;yup 361405;1383051405;kakobrekla;that exchange. 361406;1383051409;kakobrekla;huhu 361407;1383051420;pankkake;paid bans are indeed a good feature 361408;1383051431;ThickAsThieves;you know you are at a pro site when you have to pay to get rid of the vagrants 361409;1383051449;ThickAsThieves;its not a good feature 361410;1383051453;ThickAsThieves;its idiocy 361411;1383051455;pankkake;I'd make myself banned all the time by trolling and be rich (well, if I was getting the fees) 361412;1383051461;Apocalyptic;TAT, don't bother 361413;1383051466;skinnkavaj;I think we need to change definition of ponzi, it's thrown out every time when something is not understood. Even by respected people in the community like ThickAsThieves. Can anyone update wiki page? 361414;1383051478;Apocalyptic;pankkake, i'm sure you would be great at it 361415;1383051518;Apocalyptic;mircea really needs to update his post about skinnkavaj 361416;1383051518;nubbins`;hi 361417;1383051524;Apocalyptic;it gets better 361418;1383051557;ThickAsThieves;so how many mcxnow shares is everyone buying? 361419;1383051567;skinnkavaj;ThickAsThieves: Nothing. It's overpriced. 361420;1383051567;nubbins`;i thought skinnkavaj was just a random word generator with a bias towards "ltc" 361421;1383051578;ThickAsThieves;hehe 361422;1383051598;skinnkavaj;ThickAsThieves: Do you remember Litecoinglobal IPO? 361423;1383051603;ThickAsThieves;no 361424;1383051608;bidji;Interest are not paid using the deposit of newcomer It's paid using 25% of all the fee generated by the exchange. When the total BTC depositwnet from 1000BTc to 10000BTc, the interest shrinked 361425;1383051637;skinnkavaj;Listen to bidji^ 361426;1383051643;ThickAsThieves;so you have reports of all money paid out versus all income? 361427;1383051653;dexX7;100000 fee shares in total, 5000 issued, 45000 up for sale now 361428;1383051655;nubbins`;<kleeck>The site was $600,000 before what they're calling "The Tech Surge" - meaning they hired even more incompetent people to work for time and half or double time. 361429;1383051660;skinnkavaj;ThickAsThieves: No it's ponzi. 361430;1383051663;bidji;https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AioqMMSVIC5tdFplWndsdmZuaGxyN01xemxtNWYxVGc#gid=0 361431;1383051664;ozbot;Google Drive 361432;1383051666;nubbins`;yeah. because adding more resources solves the problem quicker 361433;1383051670;nubbins`;except it doesn't 361434;1383051694;nubbins`;while i've never read "the mythical man-month", i'm told it addresses this very problem 361435;1383051716;Jere_Jones;"Nine women can't make a baby in one month" 361436;1383051721;nubbins`;right? 361437;1383051722;dexX7;issued was maybe the wrong word.. 5000 are traded, all 100k received "dividends" afaiak 361438;1383051738;ThickAsThieves;i only glanced, but i dont see trade fee income on these sheets 361439;1383051742;kleeck;<kleeck> In my experience with systems architecture, having MORE people working on isolating the problem doesn't make anything better. 361440;1383051742;kleeck;<kleeck> If anything, for me, it has slowed down processes . 361441;1383051765;nubbins`;^ 361442;1383051766;nubbins`;nod 361443;1383051772;nubbins`;if 10 people can eat a pizza in 10 minutes, then surely 100 people can eat the same pizza in 1 minute, right? 361444;1383051775;skinnkavaj;ThickAsThieves: Maybe because it's ponzi 361445;1383051779;nubbins`;only wait, some asshole has to cut a pizza into 100 pieces 361446;1383051787;nubbins`;which takes a half hour and ruins the pizza 361447;1383051802;ThickAsThieves;not sur ethats the best example 361448;1383051811;ThickAsThieves;100 people will def eat a pizza faster 361449;1383051813;nubbins`;food analogies resonate with people 361450;1383051820;nubbins`;ThickAsThieves: once it's cut, yes 361451;1383051824;ThickAsThieves;why cut it? 361452;1383051826;ThickAsThieves;just bite it 361453;1383051827;pankkake;adding to the lulz, the owner is an altcoin developer! 361454;1383051829;nubbins`;.... 361455;1383051830;skinnkavaj;ThickAsThieves: Good job with Neobee though 361456;1383051836;skinnkavaj;Have you met Danny IRL? 361457;1383051836;nubbins`;100 people biting a pizza 361458;1383051843;ThickAsThieves;Yes, I have. 361459;1383051844;nubbins`;that sounds more like an episode of the walking dead 361460;1383051883;ThickAsThieves;pizza would be eaten in like 90secs 361461;1383051892;skinnkavaj;Bitcoin = ponzi scehem created by Satoshi Nakamoto 361462;1383051897;skinnkavaj;I dont understand 361463;1383051898;ThickAsThieves;yep 361464;1383051911;ThickAsThieves;bitcoin is an anarco-ponzi 361465;1383051923;ThickAsThieves;basically use everyone's greed and nerdiness to adopt it, 361466;1383051938;ThickAsThieves;then blink it all away with a glitch 361467;1383051964;pankkake;quantum computing! 361468;1383051968;ThickAsThieves;anarcho* 361469;1383051975;ThickAsThieves;yep! 361470;1383051978;skinnkavaj;pankkake: Quantum Ponzi 361471;1383051982;skinnkavaj;Quantum what? 361472;1383051987;nubbins`;anarcho-quantum ponzi 361473;1383052014;ThickAsThieves;everyone is left poor and crying for regulation 361474;1383052081;nubbins`;sounds like you're describing gold 361475;1383052109;ThickAsThieves;meanwhile the forum is up in arms because Friedcat may or may not have told a chinese girl things everyone knew already 361476;1383052121;ThickAsThieves;and cuz Neo uses Oracle 361477;1383052125;ThickAsThieves;funny people 361478;1383052132;pankkake;> Neo uses Oracle 361479;1383052134;pankkake;lol 361480;1383052137;ThickAsThieves;lol 361481;1383052141;ThickAsThieves;didnt ecven realize 361482;1383052175;nubbins`;heh 361483;1383052364;nubbins`;that bitcoin atm is really making waves here in canada 361484;1383052445;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 60 @ 0.00531666 = 0.319 BTC [-] {2} 361485;1383052467;lewicki;what kind of waves? 361486;1383052492;skinnkavaj;Ponzi waves 361487;1383052493;pankkake;ripples 361488;1383052506;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.0052 = 0.13 BTC [-] 361489;1383052510;skinnkavaj;Everyone is getting rich together! 361490;1383052515;skinnkavaj;Bitcoin pyramid is not stopping! 361491;1383052520;skinnkavaj;We are going to the m00n! 361492;1383052586;nubbins`;... 361493;1383052588;nubbins`;news waves 361494;1383052602;nubbins`;or, y'know, ripples 361495;1383052651;nubbins`;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-10-2013#361420 361496;1383052654;ozbot;#bitcoin-assets log 361497;1383052750;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 248 @ 0.00110996 = 0.2753 BTC [-] 361498;1383052751;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.00502067 = 0.1506 BTC [-] {2} 361499;1383052782;kleeck;Trollmode activated: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=263445.msg3434192#msg3434192 361500;1383052872;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.5611 = 2.8055 BTC [-] {2} 361501;1383052920;nubbins`;heh 361502;1383052989;nubbins`;y'know, i'm kind of surprised havelock is still allowing US customers 361503;1383052993;kleeck;I do love Puppet though. He's the guy running around the party telling everyone who is smoking that they're damaging their lungs, and everyone that is drinking underage or doing illicit drugs that they're breaking the law. 361504;1383052994;lewicki;that thread is sooo friggin long haaha 361505;1383053005;kleeck;it is lewicki, it is 361506;1383053013;kleeck;Quite the cluterfuck. 361507;1383053107;ThickAsThieves;are you surprised mpex is serving US customers too? 361508;1383053116;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.399 BTC [+] 361509;1383053238;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.4 BTC [+] 361510;1383053240;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SMG] 8080 @ 0.00010119 = 0.8176 BTC [-] {6} 361511;1383053421;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.31500016 BTC [-] 361512;1383053583;nubbins`;ThickAsThieves: nope 361513;1383053607;nubbins`;i don't think mpex gives a particular fuck about US regulations 361514;1383053680;skinnkavaj;I would like to fuck MPOE-PR and never touch her again 361515;1383053700;nubbins`;granted, i can't recall a romanian national ever being extradited to america to face charges for something they did while in romania, so there doesn't appear to by any particular need to give a fuck 361516;1383053700;skinnkavaj;ThickAsThieves: Would you like that? 361517;1383053726;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 0.4 = 0.8 BTC [+] 361518;1383053748;ThickAsThieves;ignored, sry 361519;1383053764;nubbins`;heh 361520;1383053923;VanCleef;lol never touch her again 361521;1383054036;nubbins`;implication is that he usually gets to touch women again after having sex with them 361522;1383054037;nubbins`;lel 361523;1383054059;kleeck;implying that he has sex with women. 361524;1383054075;kleeck;dogs, maybe. 361525;1383054081;kleeck;but only hooker dogs. 361526;1383054084;nubbins`;"i fucked my bitch again" 361527;1383054092;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.31500016 = 0.63 BTC [-] {2} 361528;1383054183;kleeck;"cheapest bitch on the block, man. Demands day old KFC. Eats the bones and all. Wild-ass mutt." 361529;1383054294;nubbins`;any of you guys watch trailer park boys? 361530;1383054602;KRS-;young moola BAYBAYY 361531;1383054754;KRS-;kleeck: puppet as in puppet labs? 361532;1383054860;ThickAsThieves;new xmen trailer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK2zYHWDZKo 361533;1383054864;KRS-;nvm 361534;1383054872;kleeck;Puppet as in: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=65207 361535;1383054877;Apocalyptic;<bidji> objectively, 10% yield is pretty good. But i think the future growth can be really good, because the owner will add gaming/gambling on the site 361536;1383054898;Apocalyptic;so it will be an exchange + gambling site in one ? 361537;1383054919;bidji;yep 361538;1383054975;KRS-;that guy 361539;1383055008;bidji;because all the security stuff is already done + a lot of money deposited, it's a lot easier to do gambling succesfully 361540;1383055026;KRS-;tight 361541;1383055048;bidji;That's why i think 0.4BTC/share is a very good deal. The potential of growth is huge 361542;1383055059;bidji;https://mcxnow.com/buymcx.html 361543;1383055060;ozbot;mcxNOW - Buy mcxFEE 361544;1383055062;skinnkavaj;Personally I am waiting until next week when it's going to be 0.2BTC/share 361545;1383055090;skinnkavaj;It's going to get dumped even if it does sell out, which I doubt. 361546;1383055092;bidji;i doubt it will go this low. Maybe 0.35, but not sure 361547;1383055127;bidji;Good return are already here 361548;1383055132;Apocalyptic;KRS-, yep 361549;1383055190;Apocalyptic;he's a visionary, like the Steeve Jobs of bitcoin 361550;1383055405;kleeck;Oh god. can we never say that again, please? 361551;1383055427;bidji;Not really, Steve Jobs was very good at PR not in tech. and dev. 361552;1383055436;KRS-;hehe yea with that comes fans and haters alike 361553;1383055450;bidji;RealSolid (owner of mcxNOW) is an utterly disaster PR wise 361554;1383055469;Apocalyptic;so bidji you're helping him out 361555;1383055473;bidji;But very good at develloping 361556;1383055475;Apocalyptic;that's kind of you 361557;1383055494;bidji;Yeah i try ;) I can't be worse than him for sure 361558;1383055495;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 307 @ 0.00072849 = 0.2236 BTC [+] {8} 361559;1383056288;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 990 @ 0.00110998 = 1.0989 BTC [+] 361560;1383056471;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6 BTC [+] 361561;1383056488;bitesak;mpex is on vacation !! 361562;1383056654;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.00531998 = 1.064 BTC [+] {2} 361563;1383056735;skinnkavaj;bitesak: http://i.imgur.com/gE4ykQa.jpg 361564;1383056766;kleeck;WOw. Today is full of governmental fail... 361565;1383056781;kleeck;Now it's State Gov, though. The Fed is off the hook. FOR NOW. 361566;1383056994;nubbins`;http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/story-from-leaked-sex-report-also-in-dvd-sent-to-schools-1.2254904 361567;1383056995;ozbot;Story from leaked sex report also in DVD sent to schools - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News 361568;1383056997;nubbins`;government fail here too 361569;1383056999;jurov;wait wat, mcxnow is owned by solidcoin/microcrash creator? 361570;1383057012;kakobrekla;yea 361571;1383057020;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 41 @ 0.00278769 = 0.1143 BTC [+] 361572;1383057038;jurov;then i dont need to know anything more 361573;1383057237;kakobrekla;yea 361574;1383057267;jurov;http://m.romatoday.it/cronaca/sesso-metro-b-foto.html some delights of flesh 361575;1383057270;ozbot;Sesso metro B a Roma: la foto fa il giro dei socialnetwork 361576;1383057293;jurov;proud to be yurpn :DDD 361577;1383057522;pankkake;http://www.coindesk.com/bitpay-processes-1-million-bitcoin-order-butterfly-labs/ who's crazy enough to do that? 361578;1383057555;jurov;clearly the feds 361579;1383057714;ThickAsThieves;crazy enough to give bfl $1m? 361580;1383057747;jurov;"Butterfly Labs can now ship this merchandise with confidence that there will be no reversibility or chargeback of the payment, which is a significant risk when accepting credit cards online or PayPal,” said Gallippi. 361581;1383057796;jurov;confidence indeed 361582;1383057796;nubbins`;hahaha 361583;1383057799;ThickAsThieves;"customers cant get their money back now, even if we should give it to them" 361584;1383057800;dexX7;that's not even 120 th 361585;1383057817;nubbins`;failbot 361586;1383057988;ThickAsThieves;headline on cnn.com "What did Obama know, and when did he find out?" 361587;1383057989;dexX7;ah maybe this one: https://products.butterflylabs.com/1-gh-cloud-hosted-bitcoin-hashing-power.html max allowed 100000 (= 100 th) for $1,083,000.00 361588;1383057996;ThickAsThieves;what the hell does it matter? 361589;1383058052;skinnkavaj;Omfg 361590;1383058071;skinnkavaj;It makes me sad that rich investors is wasting their money on BFL. 361591;1383058421;nubbins`;really? 361592;1383058432;KRS-;I wasted my money on BFL and made a few bucks =/ 361593;1383058446;nubbins`;"i'm sad that rich people are losing money" 361594;1383058456;KRS-;poor rich people 361595;1383058458;nubbins`;yeah 361596;1383058545;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 33 @ 0.06010015 = 1.9833 BTC [+] 361597;1383058606;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6 BTC [+] 361598;1383058728;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 78 @ 0.00539999 = 0.4212 BTC [+] {2} 361599;1383058850;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 22 @ 0.0054 = 0.1188 BTC [+] {2} 361600;1383059002;KRS-;why would the feds order $1MM worth of mining equipment? seems odd 361601;1383059010;KRS-;(U.S. feds) 361602;1383059016;kakobrekla;https://madiba.encs.concordia.ca/~x_decarn/truecrypt-binaries-analysis/ 361603;1383059017;ozbot;How I compiled TrueCrypt 7.1a for Win32 and matched the official binaries 361604;1383059704;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 500 @ 0.00546786 = 2.7339 BTC [+] {6} 361605;1383059765;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 500 @ 0.0055 = 2.75 BTC [+] 361606;1383059887;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 41 @ 0.0055 = 0.2255 BTC [+] 361607;1383060619;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.33979998 = 0.6796 BTC [+] 361608;1383060863;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 3500 @ 0.00110998 = 3.8849 BTC [+] 361609;1383061168;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 835 @ 0.0051 = 4.2585 BTC [-] {4} 361610;1383061290;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 313 @ 0.00278769 = 0.8725 BTC [+] 361611;1383061412;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 250 @ 0.00110998 = 0.2775 BTC [+] 361612;1383061670;jurov;;;bc,stats 361613;1383061675;gribble;Current Blocks: 266722 | Current Difficulty: 3.9092878763808584E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 268127 | Next Difficulty In: 1405 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 0 hours, 9 minutes, and 13 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 465946262.015 | Estimated Percent Change: 19.18955 361614;1383061747;Diablo-D3;;;ticker 361615;1383061749;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 212.63005, Best ask: 212.88000, Bid-ask spread: 0.24995, Last trade: 212.89000, 24 hour volume: 9574.47438301, 24 hour low: 204.02000, 24 hour high: 214.76999, 24 hour vwap: 208.79044 361616;1383061778;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 55 @ 0.00549797 = 0.3024 BTC [+] 361617;1383062388;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 400 @ 0.00278769 = 1.1151 BTC [+] 361618;1383062390;dexX7;http://www.grcourt.org/CourtPayments/loadCase.do?caseSequence=612101 361619;1383062449;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00278769 = 0.1394 BTC [+] 361620;1383062451;dexX7;ah nvm, this is something old 361621;1383062693;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.605 = 1.21 BTC [+] {2} 361622;1383062714;kleeck;why are people buying AM? 361623;1383063120;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00534997 = 0.535 BTC [-] {2} 361624;1383063181;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00534996 = 0.535 BTC [-] {2} 361625;1383063913;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 19443 @ 0.00017998 = 3.4994 BTC [+] 361626;1383064279;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SMG] 998 @ 0.000101 = 0.1008 BTC [-] {2} 361627;1383064462;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2000 @ 0.00018 = 0.36 BTC [+] 361628;1383065255;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2800 @ 0.00018 = 0.504 BTC [+] 361629;1383065353;kakobrekla;anyone tried this http://www.mailpile.is/ 361630;1383065654;kleeck;So mcxNOW is MPex's new exchange, right? 361631;1383065722;mircea_popescu;mnope 361632;1383065743;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1419 @ 0.00110734 = 1.5713 BTC [-] {2} 361633;1383065865;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 6992 @ 0.00018 = 1.2586 BTC [+] 361634;1383066170;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 300 @ 0.005339 = 1.6017 BTC [-] 361635;1383066292;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 362 @ 0.00110998 = 0.4018 BTC [+] 361636;1383066414;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 3000 @ 0.00105235 = 3.1571 BTC [-] {15} 361637;1383066946;jurov;thx kakobrekla looks like i need this 361638;1383067013;kakobrekla;you gonna try it out? 361639;1383067085;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 772 @ 0.005339 = 4.1217 BTC [-] {3} 361640;1383067390;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 244 @ 0.00538815 = 1.3147 BTC [+] {3} 361641;1383067451;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.005498 = 0.1649 BTC [+] 361642;1383067512;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 300 @ 0.00109783 = 0.3293 BTC [+] {3} 361643;1383067731;Andiz;;;ticker 361644;1383067732;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 212.31211, Best ask: 212.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.18789, Last trade: 212.50000, 24 hour volume: 9662.27925930, 24 hour low: 204.02000, 24 hour high: 214.76999, 24 hour vwap: 209.02524 361645;1383068185;jurov;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1pgwsr/my_94_year_old_grandmother_gave_me_1000_dollars/ 361646;1383068195;jurov;"blow stamps" i like this! 361647;1383068344;kakobrekla;lol 361648;1383068949;mircea_popescu;dude with all these crashed raids, i now have the bitcoin/usd rate from unixtime 45788995934578218 361649;1383068957;mircea_popescu;which we could say is in the future. 361650;1383068969;mircea_popescu;also from time 478, and also 0, and even before that. 361651;1383069088;dexX7;bye last safe harbor, that's the end of bitcoin finance 361652;1383069120;kleeck;lol 361653;1383069243;mircea_popescu;I HAVE TEH KNOWLEDGE 361654;1383069264;mircea_popescu;next time someone asks me how i know all this shit ima be all like "dude... my raids crashed". 361655;1383069380;pankkake;the dog ate my homework 361656;1383069708;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61 BTC [+] 361657;1383070013;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 13892 @ 0.00018 = 2.5006 BTC [+] {4} 361658;1383070074;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.63 BTC [+] 361659;1383070267;KRS1-;what is the price in the future 361660;1383070280;KRS1-;drumroll.. 361661;1383070319;KRS1-;Current title: The Sundays - Wild Horses 361662;1383070379;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.35 BTC [-] 361663;1383070387;mircea_popescu;i could share that for the low low price of 4506982753094509 btc 361664;1383070506;KRS1-;ah come on really 361665;1383070536;KRS1-;I think you got your decimal point in the wrong place, FOO 361666;1383070565;mircea_popescu;my system uses decimal curly braces 361667;1383070567;mircea_popescu;so a foo is yoo 361668;1383070698;KRS1-;funny how some of the world uses commmmmmmmmmmmmas 361669;1383070710;KRS1-;oops...commas 361670;1383071172;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 226 @ 0.00262104 = 0.5924 BTC [-] {4} 361671;1383071233;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1974 @ 0.0026 = 5.1324 BTC [-] 361672;1383074039;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.64 BTC [+] 361673;1383074527;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.65089997 = 2.6036 BTC [+] {2} 361674;1383076639;kakobrekla;http://istruecryptauditedyet.com/ 361675;1383076640;ozbot;Is TrueCrypt Audited Yet? 361676;1383076642;kakobrekla;you see this 361677;1383076655;kakobrekla;we need isbitcoindocumentationwrittenyet.com 361678;1383076663;kakobrekla;or specification 361679;1383076671;kakobrekla;a better word. 361680;1383076753;kakobrekla;any takers? 361681;1383076936;smickles;o/ I can not-do that 361682;1383076954;kakobrekla;which part 361683;1383077030;smickles;writing documentation 361684;1383077045;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla lol srsly. 361685;1383077053;mircea_popescu;and since we're on it, i must spam http://trilema.com/2013/the-perfect-escrow/ 361686;1383077203;kakobrekla;no srsly ill look into getting someone who writes good docu 361687;1383077209;smickles;91? 361688;1383077211;kakobrekla;and ask how much would it cost 361689;1383077217;kakobrekla;to have the thing done 361690;1383077229;kakobrekla;and talk to the devs to make it right 361691;1383077233;kakobrekla;in the process 361692;1383077242;kakobrekla;how bad could it fail1? 361693;1383077250;smickles;wow, kakobrekla doing good for the community 361694;1383077283;smickles;i just didn't expect it with such a long url joke-seeming things 361695;1383077284;nubbins`;worst allergy attack of my life 361696;1383077291;nubbins`;4.5 hours and counting 361697;1383077302;kakobrekla;smickles big problem needs long url. 361698;1383077311;kakobrekla;you prolly have a low amount of phone number too! 361699;1383077501;nubbins`;heh 361700;1383077550;mircea_popescu;lmao a large amount of url! 361701;1383077565;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla i had asked 3 different people so far, which all promised they're going to do it. 361702;1383077577;mircea_popescu;over the past maybe 1year give or take. 361703;1383077585;kakobrekla;for pay ofc? 361704;1383077599;mircea_popescu;as long as it's reasonable. 361705;1383077617;mircea_popescu;im not about to pay $100 an hour for 9400 hours or w/e 361706;1383077634;kakobrekla;yeah im trying to get a quote. 361707;1383077647;mircea_popescu;the catch of course is that it has to be good. 361708;1383077668;mircea_popescu;otherwise sure, get some odesk kid with credentials of having worked for labcoin or bitfinex or w/e 361709;1383077685;kakobrekla;no no that . 361710;1383077699;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.65099999 = 13.02 BTC [+] {3} 361711;1383077700;kakobrekla;im not even considering some random dude 361712;1383077708;mircea_popescu;right. 361713;1383077813;nubbins`;good documentation is a rare beast 361714;1383078065;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.65799996 = 3.29 BTC [+] {2} 361715;1383078126;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.00565887 = 1.1318 BTC [+] {7} 361716;1383078252;kleeck;.d 361717;1383078252;ozbot;390928787.63809 | Next Diff in 1377 blocks | Estimated Change: 18.4814% in 7d 18h 56m 25s 361718;1383078431;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 69 @ 0.00569499 = 0.393 BTC [+] 361719;1383079537;bidji;Do you remember the mcxNOW IPO i talked abour earlier? 361720;1383079556;bidji;They already raised 1 Million dollar! 361721;1383079560;bidji;In like 12 hours 361722;1383079580;bidji;https://mcxnow.com/buymcx.html With a big Meter updated in Real-time! 361723;1383079581;ozbot;mcxNOW - Buy mcxFEE 361724;1383079675;kakobrekla;if i reckon, the guy is in merrica. 361725;1383079895;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.67 BTC [+] 361726;1383079981;dexX7;hm i would almost bet that there were ~33358 shares remaining 8 hours ago, too... 361727;1383080017;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00575371 = 0.5754 BTC [+] {5} 361728;1383080032;kakobrekla;so he sold 1 share? 361729;1383080044;dexX7;:D 361730;1383080093;bidji;no , there was 45 000 share left 12-13 hours ago 361731;1383080094;dexX7;but anyway, i never traded on that website, but it feels soo smooth and fast *_* (i'm serious) 361732;1383080102;bidji;he sold 12,000 361733;1383080121;kakobrekla;i lold when reading teh footer 361734;1383080138;dexX7;hehe yea 361735;1383080145;kakobrekla;you can see immediately its some retarded kid. 361736;1383080184;dexX7;maybe. and now he is cashing out 361737;1383080198;bidji;well, the guy have 15+ year experience in c++. 361738;1383080206;dub;but he has Experience (tm) 361739;1383080221;bidji;Just test the site, you'll see it's not coded in a weeks 361740;1383080238;bidji;Faster than any other exchange, just try 361741;1383080243;dub;how much is he paying you to ruin your rep shilling for it? 361742;1383080253;kakobrekla;1 sher per 12 hrs it seems 361743;1383080256;kakobrekla;share 361744;1383080270;dexX7;i think trading is locked atm 361745;1383080287;bidji;Only the trading of the mcxFEE, you can trade Altcoin 361746;1383080290;dexX7;so the market doesn't crash due to (potentially) 10x additional shares 361747;1383080296;dexX7;*9x 361748;1383080318;kakobrekla;bidji you know you can just come in here and claim some shit and expect everybody to go along 361749;1383080322;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 36 @ 0.6301 = 22.6836 BTC [-] {3} 361750;1383080336;bidji;that's why i suggest you test it 361751;1383080348;kakobrekla;thats why i suggest you shut the fuck up and lurk moar 361752;1383080360;dub;^ 361753;1383080379;bidji;People are investing 1 million$ in the site, maybe they know what they are doing don't you think 361754;1383080386;kakobrekla;maybe 361755;1383080386;bidji;they did the math 361756;1383080387;dub;no 361757;1383080388;kakobrekla;prolly not. 361758;1383080416;nubbins`;nope 361759;1383080442;bidji;i did the math : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AioqMMSVIC5tdFplWndsdmZuaGxyN01xemxtNWYxVGc#gid=0 361760;1383080450;bidji;10% yield at current volume 361761;1383080457;bidji;And it's growing very fast 361762;1383080488;bidji;There is 2000 BTC trading volume each day 361763;1383080510;bidji;Just want to spread awareness 361764;1383080519;kakobrekla;well thank you so much for exposing another scam now lets move along. 361765;1383080633;bidji;Good luck with your investment, i'm happy with mine and wanted to share 361766;1383080641;imsaguy;why would you share? 361767;1383080650;imsaguy;if you're making so much money, you'd want to keep it a secret 361768;1383080653;imsaguy;and make even more money 361769;1383080662;kakobrekla;we fools are gonna buy in later. 361770;1383080674;bidji;Because it's in my interest. More people on the site, more growth 361771;1383080677;imsaguy;I like being the last person to hold the bag 361772;1383080687;kakobrekla;o o i smell pony! 361773;1383080693;kakobrekla;must be the manure. 361774;1383080697;imsaguy;don't you feel like a pony when you sweat? 361775;1383080699;Apocalyptic;*poni 361776;1383080727;bidji;You realise it's share in a trading exchange? So more people on it, more fee revenue. Simple as that 361777;1383080759;kakobrekla;i think thats too much for my math skills, do i have to divide by 0? 361778;1383080773;imsaguy;I just round up 361779;1383080782;smickles;i feel like someone is trying to sell chocolate on the front lawn of hersheys 361780;1383080783;imsaguy;0/0=1 361781;1383080793;smickles;(sp?) 361782;1383080811;kakobrekla;oh yeah that makes sense well sign me up for 2 shares! no, make it 3! 361783;1383080826;imsaguy;whenever the divisor = the numerator, the product equals one. 361784;1383080831;smickles;$vwap mpoe 361785;1383080832;mpexbot;smickles: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. 361786;1383080837;smickles;shit 361787;1383080842;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/the-horror-of-horrors/ mpex status etc 361788;1383080843;ozbot;The horror of horrors pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 361789;1383080846;mircea_popescu;jurov ^ 361790;1383080862;imsaguy;smickles, mpex is migrating to the 50btc platform 361791;1383080875;mircea_popescu;da fuck is that 361792;1383080893;imsaguy;"we got 'hacked' and stole all of your money" platform. 361793;1383080895;dexX7;happy birthday 361794;1383080928;imsaguy;every day is a birthday 361795;1383081021;mircea_popescu;dub bidiji (51403667@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.64.54.103) has a reputation to ruin now ? 361796;1383081025;mircea_popescu;imsaguy hater! 361797;1383081038;imsaguy;mircea_popescu: at least I'm equal opportunity with my hating. 361798;1383081063;mircea_popescu;do you hate obama ? 361799;1383081078;imsaguy;He's like 7/16 black, of course. 361800;1383081094;mircea_popescu;cute kittens with tits ? 361801;1383081100;smickles;obama stopped the recording of wizard history 361802;1383081105;imsaguy;kittens dont have tits. 361803;1383081114;mircea_popescu;caramel and whiskey tits! 361804;1383081116;imsaguy;good try though. 361805;1383081153;mircea_popescu;dude actually a cat that had nice tits which sprouted whiskey and caramel would make a great pet. 361806;1383081154;smickles;http://user.xmission.com/~emailbox/images/lioncut.jpg 361807;1383081157;imsaguy;at least this happened: http://news.msn.com/crime-justice/ex-congressman-jackson-reports-to-prison 361808;1383081178;imsaguy;smickles, that's a cat, not a kitten. 361809;1383081204;mircea_popescu;jesse jackson ? wow. 361810;1383081212;imsaguy;the junior 361811;1383081218;imsaguy;the senior is still spouting his bullshit. 361812;1383081221;mircea_popescu;a a ok 361813;1383081280;imsaguy;stupid split 361814;1383081343;mircea_popescu;His wife spent $5,150 on fur capes and parkas, the document said. 361815;1383081349;mircea_popescu;where the fuck did she find a 5k fur cape 361816;1383081352;mircea_popescu;sounds like nutria 361817;1383081398;mircea_popescu;o hey, check it out : the c++ experience guy also relays. http://blockchain.info/ip-address/81.64.54.103 361818;1383081430;imsaguy;probably a tor exit node or something 361819;1383081441;mircea_popescu;nah 361820;1383081493;mircea_popescu;http://news.msn.com/crime-justice/doctors-mistress-takes-the-stand-in-murder-case 361821;1383081494;ozbot;Doctor's mistress takes the stand in murder case 361822;1383081498;mircea_popescu;girl's name is gypsy milles 361823;1383081507;mircea_popescu;willis* 361824;1383081672;dub;mircea_popescu: so were intersango handling your backups? 361825;1383081692;mircea_popescu;no, i just had the dubious idea of having the proxies make something sort of like a blockchain 361826;1383081699;mircea_popescu;and i can't add to it. 361827;1383081963;mircea_popescu;dexX7 ty 361828;1383082153;dub;I thought I'd worked with some incompetent motherfuckers before 361829;1383082215;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.00569499 = 0.1139 BTC [-] 361830;1383082738;dub;that wasnt reference to mpex btw 361831;1383082753;dub;raging at my new work environment 361832;1383082836;mircea_popescu;at least they dion't allocate 5mb of random data for you with the task to read through it and find "anything suspicious" 361833;1383083057;orkaa;mircea_popescu, something for you 361834;1383083059;orkaa;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6W2I--r3PY 361835;1383083059;ozbot;Eminem Welcome to Timisoara City (Romania) - YouTube 361836;1383083086;pankkake;wat 361837;1383083228;dub;wow 361838;1383083238;dub;Romania's got talent 361839;1383083478;mircea_popescu;ha 361840;1383083517;mircea_popescu;ahahaha her romanian accent is so thick 361841;1383083624;mircea_popescu;anyway, it's definitely in timisoara. 361842;1383083752;mircea_popescu;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aT85qnGSFeI she's got moar. 361843;1383083752;ozbot;Eminem Still Dre & Em (Funny) - YouTube 361844;1383084123;dub;holy shit 361845;1383084141;dub;locate that and insert cock to prevent further noise eminance 361846;1383084234;mircea_popescu;emittance or eminence you mean ? 361847;1383084251;mircea_popescu;maybe you mean eminem-ce 361848;1383084282;mircea_popescu;but anyway, she's cute and sorta-moves, but no tits, no ass, wtf are we doing here, fucking little boys nao ? 361849;1383084355;pankkake;she likes to dress up 361850;1383084390;kakobrekla;why be so judgemental on the tits on ass or the lack of there of 361851;1383084420;kakobrekla;noone give a fuck if your penis is 'small' unless is anatomically too smal 361852;1383084423;kakobrekla;which if fuckin rare. 361853;1383084433;mircea_popescu;who said things are fair ? 361854;1383084438;mircea_popescu;i disctiminante by tits and ass! 361855;1383084442;kakobrekla;is* 361856;1383084526;dub;she's got gap 361857;1383084544;dub;but agree on the tit/ass deficiency 361858;1383084554;dub;;;ud gap 361859;1383084556;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gap | The space between the thighs on a female body, just below the crotch. A gap is indicative of a slim figure and is very sexy. 361860;1383084557;ozbot;Urban Dictionary: gap 361861;1383084569;dub;wd ud 361862;1383084613;kakobrekla;well 361863;1383084620;kakobrekla;i guess ill stay with little boys then! 361864;1383084633;dub;moar ass for the rest of us 361865;1383084688;pankkake;gape > gap 361866;1383084710;kakobrekla;;;ud gape 361867;1383084711;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gape | The stretched out asshole after being fucked in the ass. A result of dukeing it. 361868;1383084711;ozbot;Urban Dictionary: gape 361869;1383084718;kakobrekla;a that. 361870;1383084788;dub;pankkake's requirements include ease of spacedocking 361871;1383084801;dub;;;ud spacedocking 361872;1383084802;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=space%20docking | Brian squatted over her, lined it up, and began space docking. ... Like a space ship attempting to dock to a space station, "space docking" involves very accurate  ... 361873;1383084803;ozbot;Urban Dictionary: space docking 361874;1383084803;jcpham;i love to spacedock 361875;1383084823;pankkake;I'm learning things today 361876;1383084830;pankkake;wow, ew 361877;1383084863;kakobrekla;so that things was done. 361878;1383084872;mircea_popescu;a gap is only sexy on a woman with a nice big ass 361879;1383084878;mircea_popescu;because it shows she's not fat, just sexy. 361880;1383084880;kakobrekla;-s 361881;1383084885;mircea_popescu;on some skinny plank it's unsexy 361882;1383084987;kakobrekla;looking for that motherly venera features eh 361883;1383084993;kakobrekla;:) 361884;1383085045;kakobrekla;venus, its called. 361885;1383085055;kakobrekla;or something in between 361886;1383085100;kakobrekla;http://www.ezadar.hr/repository/image_raw/47276/large/ 361887;1383085324;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 298 @ 0.0026 = 0.7748 BTC [-] {2} 361888;1383087245;pigeons;so not only does zhoutong now run a successful excchange in australia now, but nefario works for something called "coinfloor" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=115669.msg3435103#msg3435103 361889;1383087319;jurov;sooo...to place mpex order, you have to get through mutually distrustful network of proxies 361890;1383087351;jurov;oh, and to rectify power problems, i'd recommend optical power couplers instead of transformers. 361891;1383087410;kakobrekla;change the tie to red and you got a hitman 361892;1383087668;jurov;Apparently the coins in coinfloor will be handled in full accord to FDA regulations. 361893;1383087677;jurov;Proper hygiene ftw! 361894;1383087703;kakobrekla;which are none 361895;1383087770;pigeons;hmm then why did i still get sick? 361896;1383087832;kakobrekla;a he said fda, my bad. 361897;1383087851;mircea_popescu;i wouldn't eat coins off the floor 361898;1383087886;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 46 @ 0.00578899 = 0.2663 BTC [-] 361899;1383087895;mircea_popescu;jurov they didn;'t use to be distrustful, and im not even sure it's such a good solution. learning process. 361900;1383087912;jurov;Yes. Reusing coins fallen on floor will be strictly prohibited. 361901;1383087948;mircea_popescu;pigeons everything's successful these days, except shit that actually exists 361902;1383087951;mircea_popescu;that doesn't work. 361903;1383087986;jurov;mircea_popescu: maybe you end up using colored coins internally :D 361904;1383088019;mircea_popescu;at this rate i'll just end up hung in a rats nest of cables and lines of code. 361905;1383088113;pigeons;this is zhoutong's http://coinjar.io/ 361906;1383088132;pigeons;beware the chinese relic unter 361907;1383088166;mircea_popescu;"Technically and commercially adept, hes founded several successful startups and remains a prominent figure in the Bitcoin community." 361908;1383088168;mircea_popescu;dude srsly ? 361909;1383088191;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 300 @ 0.0026151 = 0.7845 BTC [+] {2} 361910;1383088197;mircea_popescu;"Asher has a background in economics, formerly providing analysis to leading business magazines" 361911;1383088376;pigeons;in bitcoin you don't even have to hide, you can be the "special sauce" and people will eat it 361912;1383088600;pigeons;I like how Ahser brings the lunch 361913;1383088729;mircea_popescu;;;ticker 361914;1383088731;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 215.21000, Best ask: 215.21100, Bid-ask spread: 0.00100, Last trade: 215.21100, 24 hour volume: 8736.19751032, 24 hour low: 204.20001, 24 hour high: 216.00000, 24 hour vwap: 211.04564 361915;1383088923;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.66999999 = 4.02 BTC [+] {2} 361916;1383088984;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.678 BTC [+] 361917;1383090582;mircea_popescu;http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/headlines.png 361918;1383090591;mircea_popescu;what cracked has done for the internet 361919;1383090656;nubbins`;heh 361920;1383090670;nubbins`;factoid-based knowledge 361921;1383090884;nubbins`;in one of the t-shirt group buys i did, some asshole grabbed a transaction id that someone else had already posted and PMed me with it, asking for a shirt 361922;1383090887;nubbins`;i just remembered that 361923;1383091721;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Honestly looks more like Buzzfeed's titling style than Cracked's. Cracked had been sliding downward for a while, but Buzzfeed emerging has accelerated the race to the bottom. 361924;1383091752;mircea_popescu;aite, i'm not quite that knowledgeable on teenager brain rot 361925;1383091912;mircea_popescu;http://xkcd.com/1251/ 361926;1383091912;ozbot;xkcd: Anti-Glass 361927;1383091924;mircea_popescu;there gfoes the next nsa product god fucking damn it all to heck! 361928;1383091989;jurov;gentlemen and ladies, coinbr will become active tomorrow morning. 361929;1383092007;nubbins`;fanfare; applause 361930;1383092021;jurov;i'm tired and decided not to do stuff at such ungodly hour as 5am 361931;1383092036;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: I made the mistake of handing my email addy to younger sibblings and older relatives. This is why the only way to get an email address off of the blog has to come from importing the GPG key. 361932;1383092121;mircea_popescu;gpg keys mostly contain addies 361933;1383092183;jborkl;You still on vacation mp 361934;1383092193;jborkl;:) 361935;1383092194;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Yeah. I figure this way anyone who wants to email me has to do the work to get the email address from the public key block. It keeps the lowest common demoninators out of my inbox even if it lets the bots harvest my addie. 361936;1383092212;Apocalyptic;jurov, 5 am in Bratislava ? 361937;1383092244;mircea_popescu;jborkl yeah, testing the bitche's gap 361938;1383092271;jborkl;Nice vacation, I need one of those 361939;1383092276;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo i am looking forward to the day where email works like mpex 361940;1383092286;mircea_popescu;doesn't know your signature, you don't email. 361941;1383092306;mircea_popescu;n 361942;1383092308;nubbins`;BingoBoingo: your spam will be encrypted, forcing you to decrypt each message before discarding it 361943;1383092311;mircea_popescu;jborkl seriously tho, http://trilema.com/2013/the-horror-of-horrors/ 361944;1383092312;nubbins`;sounds like a win-win 361945;1383092364;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: But what if the email is encrypted by someone outside my WOT? Seems safe to discard it then before decrypting. 361946;1383092369;dub;dont forget http://xkcd.com/1273/ 361947;1383092383;nubbins`;oooh, fair enough 361948;1383092495;jborkl;Nicebjob mitigating damage mp 361949;1383092501;jborkl;Nicebjob 361950;1383092507;jborkl;Fuck 361951;1383092549;mircea_popescu;boobs ? 361952;1383092558;nubbins`;bjobs 361953;1383092561;BingoBoingo;I think GPG notaries are where it is at this next decade. Local dude established in a few WOTs signs public keys of people who meet him in person to establish the connection between their public key and identity. 361954;1383092585;nubbins`;huh, gpg notaries 361955;1383092586;nubbins`;interesting 361956;1383092617;mircea_popescu;generally gpg enabled translation and transduction is where it's at. 361957;1383092634;mircea_popescu;musicians as a group will need a dude who can testify to their reputation among plumbers 361958;1383092644;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3900 @ 0.00018 = 0.702 BTC [+] 361959;1383092645;mircea_popescu;so this'd be a dude with good wot exposure in musicwot and plumberwot 361960;1383092678;mircea_popescu;someone with a good courtwot could be trusted upon to recomend pscych experts. if he also has a good psychwot. 361961;1383092788;nubbins`;HEH 361962;1383092809;mircea_popescu;http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/social_media.png 361963;1383092979;kakobrekla;that mail thing 361964;1383092981;kakobrekla;mailpile 361965;1383092989;kakobrekla;is supposed to have "tight binding between contacts management and PGP key ring" 361966;1383093002;kakobrekla;fyi 361967;1383093012;nubbins`;"fork me on github" 361968;1383093051;BingoBoingo;I'm thinking not quite that far yet. I'm thinking a place to start is people with notary services offering to endorse key is person. After that introduction of key is person trust can be built. 361969;1383093193;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 14 @ 0.60437078 = 8.4612 BTC [-] {4} 361970;1383093245;jborkl;That is already WOT, if mp or kako give someone a good wot. I don't really worry 361971;1383093254;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.6010101 = 2.404 BTC [-] 361972;1383093303;kakobrekla;hey, we could be wrong. 361973;1383093310;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo would it make a substantial difference to you should you discover "i" am really a 24 year old busty blonde woman ? 361974;1383093315;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 79 @ 0.0026 = 0.2054 BTC [-] 361975;1383093326;mircea_popescu;it many application the physical identity = key equality is not particularly important 361976;1383093337;mircea_popescu;(those situations where trust is built on key actions, not on person actions0 361977;1383093356;dub;BingoBoingo: you realise this exists already 361978;1383093385;jborkl;Just a example kako. I of course don't trust anyone you give a good wot 361979;1383093394;jborkl;:) 361980;1383093396;mircea_popescu;also http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/enlightenment.png 361981;1383093403;dub;not in the notary service sense, but in keysigning parties 361982;1383093412;mircea_popescu;dub you trust thjat ?! 361983;1383093470;dub;trust is not binary 361984;1383093484;jborkl;Keysigning parties, who shows up to that party 361985;1383093491;nubbins`;nobody 361986;1383093494;dub;huge nerds 361987;1383093505;dub;they mostly happen and *NOG conferences etc 361988;1383093510;nubbins`;people who you would never have to trust 361989;1383093520;mircea_popescu;i like nubbins` 361990;1383093540;nubbins`;aw shucks, does this mean you'll come to my party? 361991;1383093553;mircea_popescu;i mean i like your version lol 361992;1383093555;dub;its kinda teh idea behind public key repositories neh? 361993;1383093562;jborkl;Reptillia has a key party soon 361994;1383093576;dub;you upload your key and a wot grows around people who have sighted others meatspace ID etc 361995;1383093581;mircea_popescu;dub im just a big bitcoin wot fanboi. 361996;1383093594;mircea_popescu;better than the pgp wot thing they have 361997;1383093598;mircea_popescu;(which is mostly ded anyway) 361998;1383093606;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: I agree in nearly all cases. 361999;1383093620;dub;im not seeing muc difference 362000;1383093625;dub;much* 362001;1383093633;dub;other than economic incentive to game it 362002;1383093662;dub;in nerdland its more 'hurr durr my key is signed by RMS, check my epeen' 362003;1383093663;BingoBoingo;dub: A problem with keysigning parties is that life doesn't happen at your convenience. Out side of the nerdier regions they are a rare bird to spot. 362004;1383093665;mircea_popescu;that makes all the difference. 362005;1383093686;mircea_popescu;things with no economic incentives included suck by that very fact. 362006;1383093809;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Should people really still be using PGP as an acronym. I figure it is better to bury it with GPG references. 362007;1383093842;BingoBoingo;OpenPGP may be what the spec is called now, but GPG seems to be the only implementation that matters. 362008;1383093868;mircea_popescu;this is one of those discussions 362009;1383093868;dub;well there is a secondary economic'ish incentive, if netop at europa net signs a message to me asking me to null korea due to an outbreak of k-pop I might like some surety its him and not the NSA 362010;1383093880;nubbins`;i'm sure there are plenty of uses for WoTs outside of btc-space, but i can't think of any that would apply to me 362011;1383093907;mircea_popescu;dub if you obtain this surety from sks.keyservers you're k-pop god. 362012;1383093948;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: Maybe you want a WOT to decide who to answer the door for if someone knocks? 362013;1383093978;dub;im missing something in your point 362014;1383093982;nubbins`;i always answer the door; depending on who it is and the time of day, i may or may not carry a hammer in my other hand 362015;1383094004;dub;the keysigning party is where whats on the keserver gets validated 362016;1383094026;mircea_popescu;dub i agree indeed you might like such surety, i still believe you'd rather check with gribble than with the pgp wot 362017;1383094028;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: I rarely answer. 362018;1383094039;KRS1;moar pr0ns 362019;1383094075;nubbins`;BingoBoingo: so you miss out on all those sweet opportunities to buy stolen jewelry or give some guy a glass of water because he's SO THIRSTY 362020;1383094078;dub;right, and true, but they are basically the same ting 362021;1383094101;mircea_popescu;well they are basically the same thing in the sense the romanian talent earlier and a singer are basically the same thing 362022;1383094103;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: Yes. 362023;1383094117;nubbins`;that sounds nice 362024;1383094125;dub;they are both highly community centric 362025;1383094139;nubbins`;maybe i should demand a qr code be held up to the peephole 362026;1383094161;mircea_popescu;or tits. 362027;1383094170;dub;a bunch of propeller heads who have been communicating and meeting up in person since the dawn of the tubes, vs a goup of mostly people trying to scam money out of each other 362028;1383094172;mircea_popescu;it's always good to demand tits be held up to peeprhole 362029;1383094188;mircea_popescu;dub not quite. 362030;1383094195;mircea_popescu;google michael vario or w/e his name was 362031;1383094199;jborkl;Just don't look into the gloryhole 362032;1383094204;KRS1;noooo 362033;1383094246;BingoBoingo;Tits work. For the gloryhole you have to go to the garage door though. 362034;1383094438;nubbins`;michael vario 362035;1383094499;nubbins`;i'm not sure i understand this, he's just some guy who goes around signing people's keys? 362036;1383094505;mircea_popescu;pretty much. 362037;1383094536;mircea_popescu;got the propellerheads all aggitated, because they're too retarded to understand in practice the first thing about a wot, because their 30 year old wot never worked. 362038;1383094552;dub;mircea_popescu: so the lesson is, check who has countersigned? kinda like, check the wot user hasnt been shill rated 362039;1383094585;dub;pirate still had a pretty good rating last I checked 362040;1383094605;mircea_popescu;you couldn't have missed the point where the girl explained why this is fallacious. 362041;1383094643;mircea_popescu;the wot doesn't describe if a person is trustworthy, that's your job. the wot doesn't describe what a person is doing. the wot strictly describes whom a person's been doing shit with. 362042;1383094654;mircea_popescu;you go ask those you trust from that list as to the what and decide as to trust. 362043;1383094666;dub;how is this different to keservers 362044;1383094699;dexX7;what's the idea behind "signing a key from another user"? like "mp confirms that dub is indeed dub"? 362045;1383094705;mircea_popescu;exactly the way the timisoara rapper girl is differen from "a singer" 362046;1383094708;dub;one group are more or less accustomed to being fucked over isnt valid 362047;1383094738;mircea_popescu;o but it is, dub. that's what measures the value of the engineer : the burned voltmeters. 362048;1383094762;mircea_popescu;dexX7 it's vague what exactly it means. most people sign keys so gpg stops whining about it. 362049;1383094777;KRS1;this is how you do the breast exams http://comps.canstockphoto.com/can-stock-photo_csp3051022.jpg 362050;1383094997;nubbins`;i really need to read more about all of this 362051;1383095253;asciilifeform;it's astounding that anybody thinks you can 'meaningfully establish identity' or somesuch through casual meatspace meetings with strangers. 362052;1383095273;nubbins`;^ 362053;1383095297;dub;define casual 362054;1383095306;nubbins`;no condoms 362055;1383095324;asciilifeform;dub: people who you've never known before, and may not meet again, who come to you for the purpose of 'let's do keys.' 362056;1383095332;dub;well thats not always the case 362057;1383095339;asciilifeform;vs. an actual friend (or even business associate) 362058;1383095356;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Well, I thought the carnal part was implied... 362059;1383095400;dub;in the community I referenced its generally people who have interacted at a professional level over time, they require registration before attending so you know who you are goign tobe signing for and can stipulate what references they need to bring 362060;1383095422;dub;which is often multiple forms of photo ID etc 362061;1383095431;BingoBoingo;dub: References necessarily implies tits... 362062;1383095444;KRS1;MOAR 362063;1383095453;dub;sure there are instances where its broken but you apply the same process as teh gribble wot 362064;1383095457;asciilifeform;the value of linking pubkeys to government-issued id is rather tenuous 362065;1383095488;dub;is the person I am trusting likely to assign trust blithely 362066;1383095539;dub;again, there is often a long term relationship the ID is just another layer 362067;1383095593;dub;of course its not universally done like this but neither is gribble wot 362068;1383096121;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 124 @ 0.0054 = 0.6696 BTC [-] {3} 362069;1383096365;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.00532 = 0.1064 BTC [-] 362070;1383096649;mircea_popescu;by blithely you mean blindly ? 362071;1383096686;dub;Lacking or showing a lack of due concern; casual: spoke with blithe ignorance of the true situation 362072;1383096742;mircea_popescu;aite 362073;1383096893;dub;asciilifeform: how about you sight my govt ID, my employer ID and witness me make a (verfiable) change to some internet route via a hardware 2fa secured platform 362074;1383096920;asciilifeform;dub: you're losing sight of the objective 362075;1383096936;asciilifeform;what does my certification that 'key K belongs to Mr. Such and Such' actually give people? 362076;1383096964;asciilifeform;even assuming that i could be entirely certain that the government papers are genuine 362077;1383096967;dub;a trust metric 362078;1383096997;dub;same as 'key M has traded with pirateat40 and imsaguy' 362079;1383097006;asciilifeform;dub: how? it doesn't shed any light on the question of whether you (or i, for that matter) are a Gestapo mole. 362080;1383097033;mircea_popescu;it's still a trust metric. 362081;1383097037;asciilifeform;sure 362082;1383097041;asciilifeform;but people overvalue it 362083;1383097050;mircea_popescu;well, it's a metic, properly speaking. being a metric one could build trust on it. 362084;1383097062;mircea_popescu;that'd be the problem of people not of calipers tho 362085;1383097066;dub;not arguing that, the arguemnt was, its not fundamentally different to gribbles wot 362086;1383097076;asciilifeform;all it certifies is that schmuck A and schmuck B convinced each other, using some paper, that their birth names are such-and-such. 362087;1383097088;mircea_popescu;dub but the argument was it's practically different not fundamentally different 362088;1383097101;mircea_popescu;if i gotta bring the romanian rapper chick exampl;e again... 362089;1383097114;dub;practually people can suck at using both systems 362090;1383097133;dub;practually? 362091;1383097138;dub;dafuq 362092;1383097147;nubbins`;heh 362093;1383097155;dub;practically* 362094;1383097161;nubbins`;i'm actually a really big fan of portmanteaus 362095;1383097165;nubbins`;and that was a gem 362096;1383097329;nubbins`;also, our cat only drinks water from glasses and cups: http://imgur.com/JLxiZ3Y 362097;1383097451;nubbins`;hmm, so a uid is associated always with the master key, correct? 362098;1383097577;KRS1;is romanian rapper chick hawt 362099;1383097585;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 163 @ 0.0621 = 10.1223 BTC [-] {2} 362100;1383097611;deadweasel;hmmmm..... I think this cult will go far in the states... they will eat it up and send him all their money. 362101;1383097614;deadweasel;http://www.reddit.com/r/ZenHabits/comments/1p46sy/discretion_is_the_ability_to_know_when_to_speak/ 362102;1383097614;ozbot;Discretion is the ability to know when to speak and when not to speak. : ZenHabits 362103;1383097768;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.58342 = 11.6684 BTC [-] {5} 362104;1383097840;dub;seems like a tough sell, americans don't tend to like to stop talking 362105;1383097852;deadweasel;but that's because they don't KNOW they can stop 362106;1383097859;deadweasel;trust me, i just got off the phone with my ex. 362107;1383098010;nubbins`;okay, tell me if this makes sense: i have a business and a pgp key associated therewith. the email address of the uid is that of the business. what i want to do is add three additional uids for the three directors of the business, and then have a subkey generated for each director as well. 362108;1383098029;nubbins`;does that seem reasonable 362109;1383098037;skinnkavaj;Does someone you know have: severe memory loss, large bags of useless crypto-currency, delusions about moons, rockets or mtgox-midas-ltc? Then they maybe be suffering from Litecoin Investor Syndrome and you should call 911 immediately, every second matters! 362110;1383098057;skinnkavaj;Lol'd 362111;1383098179;BingoBoingo;skinnkavaj: Does pumping LTC in hostile venues have you down? Does your audience seem listless? Try brewing some tea with potatoe leafs. 362112;1383098185;mircea_popescu;nubbins` it does, yes. 362113;1383098213;nubbins`;ok, just needed a quick sanity check 362114;1383098243;nubbins`;and this will not be a nightmare for those who have already added the original key, yes? 362115;1383098273;mircea_popescu;well, the problems are : depending on implementation you might not be able to give diff directors diff keys, so you depend on their probity signing properly ; 362116;1383098299;mircea_popescu;people will need updated pubkeys including the whole list if they're to reply to the new keys 362117;1383098324;mircea_popescu;not be able to give diff directors diff keys << passphrases i mean, not keys. 362118;1383098366;nubbins`;ah, that would be less than useful 362119;1383098394;KRS1;subkey 362120;1383098403;nubbins`;"here, remember this 90+ character password" 362121;1383098431;mircea_popescu;alternatively, you can just make x independent keys, of which 1 is for the corp, and the others for directors, and perhaps sign a director certificate with thecorp key 362122;1383098457;nubbins`;oh, there you go 362123;1383098463;KRS1;did you guys see percover 362124;1383098468;KRS1;peer 362125;1383098477;KRS1;pretty clever 362126;1383098490;mircea_popescu;nop 362127;1383098506;KRS1;PeerCover allows anyone to form his or her insurance group or join an existing group to insure anything from a Bitcoin wallet to Ripple debt. Draft your own terms you approve and sign. Evaluate and vote on new members. Vote on new claims. - See more at: https://bitcoinstarter.com/projects/85#sthash.JNat22IH.dpuf 362128;1383098553;nubbins`;"Using this you can ... sing your key. Although it is too logic to mention. For this you need your passphrase." -GPG mini how-to 362129;1383098573;dub;sing your key? sounds like Luke-Jr is involved 362130;1383098584;dexX7;does any of those bitstarter projects ever get funded? 362131;1383098584;nubbins`;KRS1: insurance is up there with banks as far as regulation goes 362132;1383098597;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: The GPG mini how to is worthless. Doesn't even cover picking individual keys to use. 362133;1383098613;nubbins`;yeah, it's kind of difficult to find reasonable documentation on all of this 362134;1383098670;mircea_popescu;KRS1 o that. yeah we lolled at usagi^2 last week 362135;1383098704;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo didn't you just publish a gpg how to thing ? 362136;1383098730;nubbins`;"You could go so far as to create profiles and upload credit history/health records to increase your chances of acceptance into a pool" 362137;1383098739;nubbins`;oh, my sides 362138;1383098753;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Yeah. I also included links to the mini how to and the full manual. The mini how to explains the basics, but is probably too mini. 362139;1383098776;nubbins`;i'm just going to fill out a detailed medical questionnaire and send it to a bunch of anons in exchange for health "insurance" 362140;1383098781;BingoBoingo;I mean who is only going to have one GPG key to steward. 362141;1383098786;mircea_popescu;nubbins` chance at ~. 362142;1383098824;nubbins`;? 362143;1383098884;mircea_popescu;chance at insurance. not actual insurance. 362144;1383098889;nubbins`;aha 362145;1383098913;nubbins`;not even a chance at actual insurance, in fact 362146;1383098919;mircea_popescu;"come suck my cock for a chance at marrying me" != "come suck my cock for this here ring" 362147;1383098919;dub;is this CPA 2.0 362148;1383098937;nubbins`;just a chance at the same random anons giving you a ton of cash years down the road 362149;1383098942;dub;which ring 362150;1383098950;dub;we talking cocksucking or rusty tromboning 362151;1383098953;mircea_popescu;dub you ask too many questions beautiful. 362152;1383098957;dub;;;ud rusty trombone 362153;1383098958;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=rusty%20trombone | To get rimmed whilst recieving a hearty reach round, thus resembling a trombone player in full chorus. 362154;1383098959;ozbot;Urban Dictionary: rusty trombone 362155;1383098981;nubbins`;oh god, this is rich 362156;1383098988;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 68 @ 0.00569998 = 0.3876 BTC [+] 362157;1383098996;nubbins`;i bet there are people RIGHT NOW sharing their credit history and medical records 362158;1383099006;dub;of course there are 362159;1383099007;nubbins`;can't breathe 362160;1383099014;nubbins`;ahahahahah 362161;1383099014;mircea_popescu;not on that site. 362162;1383099030;dub;just like right now people are investing in whatever alberto is doing now 362163;1383099098;mircea_popescu;maybe his dad. 362164;1383099104;mircea_popescu;iirc his dad was rich 362165;1383099125;BingoBoingo;dub: Wasn't Alberto the Labcoin guy? 362166;1383099140;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo possible but unproven. alberto was the original bitdaytrade frontman 362167;1383099179;dub;and plenty more 362168;1383099187;dub;BDT wasnt his first scam 362169;1383099215;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Ah, so maybe his sister went to Meni and cut him out of Labcoin? 362170;1383099225;mircea_popescu;it's a group. 362171;1383100086;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 478 @ 0.00107101 = 0.5119 BTC [-] {3} 362172;1383100404;dexX7;national cat day? 362173;1383100474;dexX7;my contribution: http://www.cat-bounce.com/ ^-^" 362174;1383100558;mircea_popescu;.babe 362175;1383100566;mircea_popescu;.bait 362176;1383100567;ozbot;http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mam127WKIX1qdudf8o1_1280.jpg 362177;1383100574;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 74 @ 0.00569 = 0.4211 BTC [-] 362178;1383100584;mircea_popescu;shitty out of focus contribution, ozbot. 362179;1383100604;mircea_popescu;at least there's boxgap 362180;1383100918;dexX7;.bait 362181;1383100920;ozbot;http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_manqoec6n61rnftteo1_500.jpg 362182;1383100923;nubbins`;my re-contribution: http://imgur.com/JLxiZ3Y 362183;1383101029;dexX7;this reminds me of http://www.ding.net/bonsaikitten/index.html for some reason :D 362184;1383101258;nubbins`;http://imgur.com/cdempDI 362185;1383101259;ozbot;Proctologist Simulator 2013 is such a shitty game - Imgur 362186;1383101269;nubbins`;what does that remind you of? 362187;1383101324;asciilifeform;nubbins`: i once toured a lab where they actually had these 362188;1383101331;asciilifeform;and yet messier surgical sims. 362189;1383101337;nubbins`;:0 362190;1383101354;dexX7;lol 362191;1383102099;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SMG] 25000 @ 0.000101 = 2.525 BTC [-] {2} 362192;1383102221;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.33997142 = 2.3798 BTC [+] {3} 362193;1383102335;nubbins`;okay, going to try easing back into a normal sleep/wake schedule. nite 362194;1383103198;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 394 @ 0.00247852 = 0.9765 BTC [-] {10} 362195;1383103258;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 5606 @ 0.00215139 = 12.0607 BTC [-] {18} 362196;1383103668;Ademan;Will btct.co be automatically paying out account balances to withdrawal addresses or do I need to do that manually? (I ask because my dumb ass just accidentally locked my account...) 362197;1383103709;BingoBoingo;Ademan: No idea. Hope is a shitty thing to count on though isn't it? 362198;1383103783;Ademan;heh yeah, I avoided doing it before because there's a fee for withdrawal and I'm a bit indignant that I'm paying a fee to do something I'm forced to do :-/ 362199;1383103807;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 21 @ 0.0054 = 0.1134 BTC [-] 362200;1383103914;BingoBoingo;Ademan: Well, maybe avoid failed people promoting failed models of doing thangs. 362201;1383104238;opc0d3;anyone here buy futures with ICBIT? 362202;1383104332;BingoBoingo;opc0d3: You mean the bucketshop. Coinbr is cheap now. No reason to fuck with ICBIT> 362203;1383104386;opc0d3;i bought futures at $150 on ICBIT.se and sold around $230. nearly doubled my coins.... its also run by Tycho. an admin on bitcointalk.org. i doubt its a scam. what coinbr? 362204;1383104435;mircea_popescu;come back with an actual account and everything 362205;1383104469;opc0d3;whats an actual account? 362206;1383104480;mircea_popescu;;;ident opc0d3 362207;1383104480;gribble;Nick 'opc0d3', with hostmask 'opc0d3!d07cd3fa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.124.211.250', is not identified. 362208;1383104490;opc0d3;oh.. yawn. too lazy 362209;1383104507;opc0d3;im not a shill for icbit, if thats what you're worried about 362210;1383104523;opc0d3;the options on mpex have no liquidity or volume, otherwise id trade them 362211;1383104529;mircea_popescu;you're nobody, the thing is. 362212;1383104547;opc0d3;last time i checked there was like 2 trades a day on options there 362213;1383104766;mircea_popescu;where ? 362214;1383104872;BingoBoingo;;;ident BingoBoingo 362215;1383104873;gribble;Nick 'BingoBoingo', with hostmask 'BingoBoingo!~BingoBoin@unaffiliated/bingoboingo', is identified as user BingoBoingo, with GPG key id 309BB8D7F3251143, key fingerprint ADD7A9A28F85E5EF1F51904F309BB8D7F3251143, and bitcoin address None 362216;1383105297;dub;Ademan: isnt the withdrawal fee just the standard bitcoin tx fee? 362217;1383105454;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 315 @ 0.00109877 = 0.3461 BTC [-] {2} 362218;1383105618;dexX7;http://live.coinbr.com/?mpsic=S.MPOE 503 Service Temporarily Unavailable 362219;1383105619;ozbot;CoinBr Live S.MPOE 362220;1383105627;dexX7;ah nvm 362221;1383105789;mircea_popescu;lol 362222;1383107171;BingoBoingo;Any thoughs on the not quite world series here? 362223;1383107359;pigeons;KRS1: peercover is having some legal/bank account issues at the moment FYI 362224;1383107364;pigeons;heh 362225;1383107381;pigeons;their google wallet account was closed as well 362226;1383107591;pigeons;and buy the way the guy's a nut 362227;1383107713;mircea_popescu;all the trappings of success. 362228;1383107754;pigeons;i hear he is going to start an exchange as the "secret sauce" 362229;1383107875;BingoBoingo;Amir is secret sauce? Gibson is secret sauce? Is the original buttcoin dude http://trilema.com/they-really-are-buttcoins-nao ever going to lend his secret santorum to a venture though? 362230;1383107922;pigeons;i cant read that link it always wants me to pay 362231;1383108004;mircea_popescu;no payn no gayn 362232;1383108016;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 22 @ 0.6 = 13.2 BTC [+] {3} 362233;1383108050;dub;http://publicreligion.org/site/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/2013.AVS_WEB.pdf 362234;1383108064;dub;tl;dr libertards are retarded 362235;1383108277;pigeons;http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/laptop/f/3518/t/19512174.aspx 362236;1383108277;ozbot;New 6430u smells awful - Laptop General Hardware Forum - Laptop - Dell Community 362237;1383108458;pigeons;"Same issue - I have been blaming a new kitten who I swore was creeping into my closed back pack at night and magically only hitting the PC with a concentrated urine stream which then magically evaporated. Glad to hear I am not alone (people see my smelling my PC and think I am insane!) and my apologies to the cat." 362238;1383108541;BingoBoingo;Fucking furfags https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jofNR_WkoCE I now what the fox says, and honestly I prefer the coyotes. 362239;1383109316;dub;gotta love those canned support indians 362240;1383110293;BingoBoingo;Who else thinks RealSolid has already cut and run? 362241;1383110870;mircea_popescu;is this the guy with solidcoin ? 362242;1383111372;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: That one. The mcxnow one now. Apparently he scammed new n00bs good this time. 362243;1383111493;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 0.0621 = 0.3105 BTC [-] 362244;1383111531;mircea_popescu;well he's not going anywhere, seeing how it's what, the 3rd ? 4th ? 362245;1383111593;BingoBoingo;Yeah. Shame how linking his history won't save n00bs and their coins. I'm starting to wonder how he might compare to Pirate. 362246;1383111596;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/smg-eulora-v003/ 362247;1383111597;ozbot;S.MG - Eulora v0.0.3 pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 362248;1383111601;mircea_popescu;third version released. 362249;1383111737;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 200 @ 0.00075 = 0.15 BTC [+] {2} 362250;1383112571;mircea_popescu;meh, doesn't look like we'll make 6am. still hopeful it will be today however. 362251;1383112713;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 96 @ 0.06037814 = 5.7963 BTC [-] {3} 362252;1383113073;mod6;sweet, have to give v0.0.3 a try tomorrow when i get my new drive more set up. 362253;1383113079;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 149 @ 0.00521027 = 0.7763 BTC [-] {2} 362254;1383113097;mod6;(my laptop drive failed yesterday) 362255;1383113141;mircea_popescu;ha! 362256;1383113145;mircea_popescu;i misspoke. mpex is back! 362257;1383113160;mircea_popescu;mod6 i tell you i tihnk they get shittier by the day. 362258;1383113525;BingoBoingo;In a lot of ways I find RealSolid scarier than pirateat40. 362259;1383113554;mircea_popescu;he never made any real btc did he ? 362260;1383113562;mircea_popescu;what's this latest thing you were mentioning ? 362261;1383113565;BingoBoingo;;;rate RealSolid -10 Ponzi 362262;1383113566;gribble;Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings. 362263;1383113579;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: He has a scam ponzi/exchange now. 362264;1383113595;mircea_popescu;what's it called ? 362265;1383113613;BingoBoingo;The dangerous part though, more so than pirate were probably the goals he had for his altcoins. Mcxnow is the exchange. 362266;1383113644;mircea_popescu;o the thing anon was adverttising earlier ? 362267;1383113662;BingoBoingo;Yeah, the thing dick bag was pumping. 362268;1383113679;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-10-2013#361311 362269;1383113681;ozbot;#bitcoin-assets log 362270;1383113695;mircea_popescu;didn;'t take him tyoo far looking at the log 362271;1383113772;BingoBoingo;The dangerous thing about RealSolid is he wanted a $1 to 1 scamcoin parity. This IPO and his lazy unreading depositors might let him pull it off enough to put some hurt onto the Bitcoin. 362272;1383113777;mircea_popescu;why's that cryptoblog guy covered his text in so much crap tho ;/ 362273;1383113803;mircea_popescu;uh. 362274;1383113813;mircea_popescu;how's it hurting bitcoin ? 362275;1383113835;BingoBoingo;The cryptobloig guy is some LTC noob. 362276;1383113861;mircea_popescu;skinnkavaj: 362277;1383113861;mircea_popescu;Apocalyptic: Like TAT is some holy god. I have much respect for TAT. But almost lost it now when he throw a word like ponzi, without any resarch. << i love these guys and their evolving respect thingee. 362278;1383113874;BingoBoingo;The RealSolid/Mcx guy though has a lot of BTC and a hell of a premine without the hate the XRP folk have hampering them. 362279;1383113961;BingoBoingo;Now that he's cashing out RealSolid seems like an especially dangerous irrational actor on the BTC market. Sure, he'll probably break eventually but cause a lot of Chaos on his way down 362280;1383114025;BingoBoingo;RealSolid is a dickbag noob, but an ideologue dickbag n00b. 362281;1383114085;mircea_popescu;if he has a lot of btc why was he begging on the forum / stealing a coupla hundred ? 362282;1383114148;BingoBoingo;A few hundred wouldn't be a problem. It looks like he like LabCoin somehow is getting a few thousand on the hopes of the uneducated. The sort that last year and this spring should have swept out of BTC> 362283;1383114212;mircea_popescu;doubt it very much. 362284;1383114280;BingoBoingo;Well he could fake it since it is his exchange. I've learned though never to underestimate the n00bishness of the unread though. 362285;1383114319;geofflosophy;evening gents 362286;1383114351;mircea_popescu;hi 362287;1383114420;BingoBoingo;;;ident geofflosophy 362288;1383114421;gribble;Nick 'geofflosophy', with hostmask 'geofflosophy!~gimmedaty@198.199.89.234', is not identified. 362289;1383114427;BingoBoingo;:(... 362290;1383114477;mircea_popescu;it is a good nick. 362291;1383114500;BingoBoingo;geofflosophy: Probably want to register that one with nickserv 362292;1383114531;geofflosophy;sorry, I'm kind of a nub, haven't really done much IRC stuff since my CS days in the early 2000s 362293;1383114548;geofflosophy;nickserv sounds marginally familiar 362294;1383114553;BingoBoingo;geofflosophy: DOn't worry, just read http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration 362295;1383114753;geofflosophy;alright so Im regisered now 362296;1383114789;mircea_popescu;good for you. 362297;1383114962;BingoBoingo;I might have to do an mcxnow post. I just wish I would have capped the history before the dood who ran their forums resurfaced. 362298;1383114978;mircea_popescu;you'll know next time 362299;1383114991;mircea_popescu;tho imo you're better off not filling the page with forum screenshots. 362300;1383115008;mircea_popescu;they add nothing. copy/past the material as quotes so it's indexable, maybe have a gallery for screenshots 362301;1383115099;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Well text scraping or transcribing are better forms of capping. A sentence is worth a thousand screenshots. I've started the habit of logging anything vaguely scammy though. 362302;1383115150;mircea_popescu;can't hurt. make sure you keep it well sorted for later. 362303;1383115195;BingoBoingo;The autopsy of Labcoin is taking longer than expected, but letting it rot on cryprostocks a bit longer can't hurt. 362304;1383115336;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00526321 = 0.5263 BTC [+] {2} 362305;1383115519;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0053 = 0.53 BTC [+] 362306;1383115580;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 219 @ 0.00109887 = 0.2407 BTC [+] {2} 362307;1383115594;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: So Cardano is still smart phone sized? 362308;1383115609;mircea_popescu;actually penning an announcement right now 362309;1383115861;BingoBoingo;Cool. Hopefully the Cardinals can take the world series so I can throw coin from that into the Cardano fund. 362310;1383115885;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 0.0621 = 0.2484 BTC [+] 362311;1383116068;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 476 @ 0.00109899 = 0.5231 BTC [+] {3} 362312;1383116672;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/snsa-cardano-pricing-other-statements/ 362313;1383116673;ozbot;S.NSA - Cardano pricing, other statements pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 362314;1383116675;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo ^ 362315;1383116732;dub;nice model-m 362316;1383116741;BingoBoingo;Shit mircea_popescu Looks like I'm getting 3 362317;1383116758;mircea_popescu;that's a good looking shirt innit 362318;1383116780;dub;what the fuck is an inch 362319;1383116783;mircea_popescu;dub asciilifeform has old shit. that's the keyboard i learned to c back in like 1990s 362320;1383116828;mod6;thats a great shirt :] 362321;1383116866;BingoBoingo;I also guess I'm taking the medium shirt and finding a hog to give the XL to as a night gown... 362322;1383116866;mod6;yah, those keyboards have some spring in the keys. quite nice to type on actually. 362323;1383116867;mircea_popescu;dude all the time i spent getting women hands pictures to find an intelligent, slutty looking one is worth it. 362324;1383116882;mod6;*CLACK* *CLACK* 362325;1383116883;mircea_popescu;you know that's what you all are responding to. intelligent, slutty looking female hand. 362326;1383116904;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo kinda the idea of the pairing. make a friend. 362327;1383116917;mod6;the sign in the background is funny too 362328;1383116937;mod6;`clean ur own dishes neckbears!' 362329;1383116943;mod6;*beards 362330;1383116980;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Whatever happened to the eagle holding the cocks as a logo? 362331;1383116999;mircea_popescu;it didn't work out. the eagle kept eating the prop 362332;1383117028;mod6;ha 362333;1383117045;mod6;im ciked to get these cardanos 362334;1383117092;dub;lol penisbird 362335;1383117109;mircea_popescu;well the fake nsa has this seal with an eagle on it 362336;1383117276;mod6;did anyone else see the hecklers behind alexander today during his usual bs to congress? 362337;1383117333;mircea_popescu;In just five months, terrorists have killed thousands of people in Pakistan, Iraq, Yemen and Libya, he said. "And yet not one major terrorist incident in the United States since 9/11. That's not by accident," Alexander said. 362338;1383117334;mircea_popescu;herp. 362339;1383117378;mircea_popescu;then if another one happens it's all "nobody could have foreseen" 362340;1383117385;mircea_popescu;but before, it's all "that's no accident". 362341;1383117407;mod6;ya. then it'll be "WIRETAP ALL THE THINGS!!!" ... "OH WAIT..." 362342;1383117494;mod6;http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/10/29/1383080608997/8709546b-1f65-4946-bccb-3bc1ccf0000b-460x276.jpeg 362343;1383117519;mircea_popescu;nice girl. 362344;1383117520;mod6;i like how up close the sunglasses read "STOP" on one lens and "SPYING" on the other. 362345;1383117713;mod6;so i was in this building downtown today, nearly got thrown out for doing nothing more than showing up too early for a meeting and using the free wifi in the lobby. i had a suit on for christsake. 362346;1383117745;mircea_popescu;nasty. 362347;1383117749;mod6;i was on my tablet, they probably zoomed in on me reading up on -assets from the cameras and nearly shit themselfs. 362348;1383117760;mod6;"OMG GET RID OF THAT GUY!!!!111" 362349;1383117816;mod6;so they nearly escorted me out of the building until they realized i had a reasonable "purpose". not like i had a giant duffelbag with me or anything. 362350;1383117837;mod6;this place is getting more bizzare by the minute. 362351;1383117839;mircea_popescu;uh. da fuck building of nazism is tyhis 362352;1383117881;mod6;haha. exactly. all fascism, no filler. 362353;1383117917;mod6;in '14 jackboots will be standard issue. 362354;1383118019;mod6;what was even funnier about the whole thing... the security people didn't just ask me what i was doing there "my purpose" and then leave me be... they sat there with me for like 20+ minutes until someone came to meet me and escort me up to the proper floor. 362355;1383118058;mod6;its just like,.... "lol wow, THEY HATE US FOR OUR FREEDOMS!" 362356;1383118203;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 700 @ 0.001099 = 0.7693 BTC [+] 362357;1383118204;mircea_popescu;heh 362358;1383118246;mircea_popescu;few days ago i was with a us guy downtown and he needed to pee 362359;1383118258;mircea_popescu;so i was like, well go in here, go pee. 362360;1383118269;mircea_popescu;"what's in here ? " "a highschool" 362361;1383118290;mircea_popescu;he took about ten minutes to be convinced that yes, you can go into a motherfucking highschool to use their toilet. 362362;1383118297;mod6;lol 362363;1383118310;mod6;that shit here would get you a swat team probably. 362364;1383118318;mircea_popescu;fucking ridiculous. 362365;1383118333;mod6;if you even made it past the door without being frisked. 362366;1383118356;mircea_popescu;and you see, there have been exactly 0 school shootings in this county since forever. 362367;1383118364;mircea_popescu;this, as mr alexander says, is no fucking accident. 362368;1383118380;mircea_popescu;if you let people take a leak when they're in a spot they become much less likely to shoot your place up. 362369;1383118446;mod6;yeah, its a fuckin joke. 362370;1383118538;BingoBoingo;Doesn't Mr Alexander have the starship enterprise office? Probably just butthurt he couldn't stop the clouds with his ship. 362371;1383118623;BingoBoingo;Or is this the Alexander who wants more clouds so he can hump schneier moar? 362372;1383119064;BingoBoingo;I probably need to check Eve soon and set the skill que to another space ship. 362373;1383120216;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 7 @ 0.0621 = 0.4347 BTC [+] 362374;1383120582;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00530002 = 0.53 BTC [+] {2} 362375;1383120643;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 475 @ 0.001099 = 0.522 BTC [+] 362376;1383120765;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1181 @ 0.001099 = 1.2979 BTC [+] {3} 362377;1383120766;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0053 = 0.53 BTC [-] {2} 362378;1383121131;assbot;[MPEX] [S.BBET] 20000 @ 0.00070416 = 14.0832 BTC [+] {4} 362379;1383121688;bloctoc;you go bitnet! 362380;1383121694;bloctoc;bitbet 362381;1383121863;assbot;[MPEX] [O] [O.USD.P221T] 17 @ 0.68165594 = 11.5882 BTC 362382;1383121863;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 80 @ 0.0053 = 0.424 BTC [-] 362383;1383122078;mircea_popescu;$avg 362384;1383122079;mpexbot;mircea_popescu: 202.85 362385;1383122102;mircea_popescu;;;calc 221/1.6716 362386;1383122102;gribble;132.208662359 362387;1383122124;mircea_popescu;seems unlikely. 362388;1383122595;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00082242 = 4.5233 BTC [+] 362389;1383122900;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 850 @ 0.00082379 = 0.7002 BTC [+] 362390;1383123642;bitesak;;;ticker 362391;1383123643;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 210.81553, Best ask: 212.93496, Bid-ask spread: 2.11943, Last trade: 212.94498, 24 hour volume: 10880.26613193, 24 hour low: 207.06000, 24 hour high: 216.50000, 24 hour vwap: 212.08113 362392;1383124791;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 150 @ 0.00082379 = 0.1236 BTC [+] 362393;1383125035;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 154 @ 0.00528 = 0.8131 BTC [-] {2} 362394;1383125157;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 88 @ 0.0055777 = 0.4908 BTC [+] {2} 362395;1383125340;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 37 @ 0.00557998 = 0.2065 BTC [+] 362396;1383126621;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.0008169 = 4.738 BTC [-] 362397;1383126836;jurov;Hi all... sorry, coinbr stuff will take a while. got some executed/canceled orders, with no TradeHistory entries. 362398;1383126865;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3650 @ 0.0008169 = 2.9817 BTC [-] 362399;1383126987;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.0008169 = 2.2056 BTC [-] 362400;1383129859;pankkake;asciilifeform> it's astounding that anybody thinks you can 'meaningfully establish identity' or somesuch through casual meatspace meetings with strangers. <= this is what most key signing documentation says. also it's how cacert works 362401;1383129884;pankkake;and people check government IDs 362402;1383129908;pankkake;well one time a guy had a lamp to check them, but otherwise… I could easily fool people 362403;1383129996;pankkake;mapping to unique governmental identities is stupid, but moreover, "i've known this guy for 10 years and never met him" should be much stronger than "I met this stranger once" 362404;1383130030;pankkake;I don't know where to start to fix this 362405;1383130054;ryan1894;does anybody know where creativex is? 362406;1383130232;chetty;pankkake: not to worry once we all get chipped ID will be settled :P 362407;1383130258;pankkake;:/ 362408;1383130278;pankkake;that's another thing: we shouldn't necessarily have only one ID 362409;1383130347;bitesak;you mean not something like this http://imm.io/1jqx7 ? 362410;1383130396;pankkake;I have 3 google accounts. or more 362411;1383130455;bitesak;pretty sure they are linked in some way though? 362412;1383130701;pankkake;well by IP? but to outsiders those are separate identities 362413;1383130861;chetty;haha bet NSA knows :P 362414;1383130883;pankkake;no doubt about it, that's not the point 362415;1383130896;bitesak;indeed, IP for example, i'm no expert and pretty sure you are more versed in these matters than me. All this google stuff is a bit much.. 362416;1383133264;jurov;coinbr back online :) 362417;1383133292;bitesak;:) 362418;1383133302;jurov;..i mean... it was online all the time but now you can place/cancel orders 362419;1383133331;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 26 @ 0.60076923 = 15.62 BTC [+] {4} 362420;1383134429;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69348300 BTC to 1`386`966 shares, 50 satoshi per share 362421;1383134612;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 19 @ 0.00557899 = 0.106 BTC [+] 362422;1383136076;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7991 @ 0.00081679 = 6.527 BTC [-] {2} 362423;1383139309;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.159 = 0.477 BTC [-] {2} 362424;1383140224;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 207 @ 0.00530613 = 1.0984 BTC [-] {4} 362425;1383140773;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 35 @ 0.00544899 = 0.1907 BTC [-] 362426;1383140906;nubbins`;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-10-2013#362327 362427;1383140908;ozbot;#bitcoin-assets log 362428;1383140919;nubbins`;^ 362429;1383141017;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5350 @ 0.00081226 = 4.3456 BTC [-] {2} 362430;1383141047;mod6;:] 362431;1383141093;nubbins`;(they don't!) 362432;1383141284;nubbins`;"A lack of pumpkins this year is being blamed on low numbers of bees" 362433;1383141285;nubbins`;D: 362434;1383141379;pankkake;and who's to blame for the lack of bees? 362435;1383141383;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.63 BTC [+] 362436;1383141384;kleeck;THE BEE KING 362437;1383141460;nubbins`;i was gonna say all the people killing bees 362438;1383141467;nubbins`;bees are bros, don't kill them :( 362439;1383141482;kleeck;bro! don't kill 'dem beez! 362440;1383141486;pankkake;I blame the lack of pumpkins 362441;1383141489;nubbins`;right?! 362442;1383141495;nubbins`;ooh pankkake circle of life 362443;1383141521;nubbins`;does this mean that if we start importing pumpkins we'll be overrun by bees? 362444;1383141521;kakobrekla;circle of jerk. 362445;1383141522;pankkake;beerobeeros 362446;1383141538;kleeck;it's spiraling out of control. Soon, we'll have a shortage of bees due to a shortage of pumpkins which will lead to less pumpkins. 362447;1383141557;kakobrekla;then the global warming will really start. 362448;1383141573;nubbins`;but less pumpkins means less pumpkin bread 362449;1383141580;jcpham;so pumpkins really produce honey? 362450;1383141586;jcpham;i realize bees make it 362451;1383141589;nubbins`;and then what the fuck am i supposed to eat with my coffee?! 362452;1383141605;jcpham;but it sounds like pumpkins are the real workhorses of honey production 362453;1383141605;deadweasel;eat bees. 362454;1383141623;kleeck;Then nubbins` is angry, and goes on a shooting rampage at his employ. 362455;1383141632;kleeck;It's all a mess, and it all starts with pumpkins. 362456;1383141636;nubbins`;i work from home, that'd be dangerous 362457;1383141655;nubbins`;well. less dangerous than if i worked in an office, i suppose 362458;1383141662;kleeck;Send your family my condolences. 362459;1383141663;pankkake;we need more pumpkins, less dumpkins 362460;1383141670;nubbins`;D: 362461;1383141678;pankkake;:o) 362462;1383141682;kleeck;and more blumpkins. 362463;1383141696;kleeck;;ud blumpkins 362464;1383141704;kleeck;;;ud blumpkin 362465;1383141706;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=blumpkin | The delicately balanced art of getting your cock sucked while taking a dump. 362466;1383141707;ozbot;Urban Dictionary: blumpkin 362467;1383141712;nubbins`;i think this goes full-circle back to the fact that my mother doesn't live here: http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/nsa-xl.jpg 362468;1383141723;pankkake;oh god. at least this is better than space docking 362469;1383141732;kleeck;;; ud space docking 362470;1383141734;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=space%20docking | Brian squatted over her, lined it up, and began space docking. ... Like a space ship attempting to dock to a space station, "space docking" involves very accurate  ... 362471;1383141734;ozbot;Urban Dictionary: space docking 362472;1383141737;kakobrekla;the stuff people come up with. 362473;1383141742;jcpham;;;ud felching 362474;1383141743;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=felching | The act of sucking semen from any human orafice, eg. anus, vagina, it can be done with a drinking straw when semen is deep inside the rectum. 362475;1383141744;ozbot;Urban Dictionary: felching 362476;1383141761;pankkake;I'm ok with that 362477;1383141767;kleeck;That space docking clip was a great tease! 362478;1383141769;nubbins`;see, some of these are a bit put-on. you can't just stick a straw up someone's ass 362479;1383141788;kleeck;;; ud ass straw 362480;1383141789;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ass-straw | 1. ass-straw. Someone who likes the ass juice. Your such an ass-straw! Dude your boss is an ass-straw... mark as favorite buy ass-straw mugs & shirts. by Xer0  ... 362481;1383141790;ozbot;Urban Dictionary: ass-straw 362482;1383141791;jcpham;unless it's a silly straw 362483;1383141799;nubbins`;^ 362484;1383141802;kleeck;;ud silly straw 362485;1383141811;kleeck;;;ud silly straw 362486;1383141812;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Compton%20Silly%20Straw | The Compton Silly Straw is one of the most complicated sex moves on the planet. WARNING: It requires great flexibility, an average size penis, and ... 362487;1383141813;ozbot;Urban Dictionary: Compton Silly Straw 362488;1383141828;jcpham;;;google silly straw 362489;1383141829;gribble;Amazon.com: American Science & Surplus Silly Straw Plastic ...: <http://www.amazon.com/American-Science-Surplus-Plastic-Eyeglass/dp/B001JP9I5I>; Silly Straw Eyeglasses | Stupid.com: <http://www.stupid.com/silly-straw-eyeglasses.html>; The Official Krazy Straw Web Site: <http://www.krazystraws.com/> 362490;1383141832;nubbins`;WARNING: it requires an average sized penis 362491;1383141843;kleeck;;; ud nubbins 362492;1383141844;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=nubbins | 3. nubbins. 1. small breasts 2. nipples 3. fingers. 1. Check your nubbins! They're hanging out of your bathing suit, Savanna! 2. My nubbins look like milk duds! 3. 362493;1383141845;ozbot;Urban Dictionary: nubbins 362494;1383141853;jcpham;;;ud smickles 362495;1383141854;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=proper%20smickles | 1) To be really good. 2) As replacement to okay or great. Note: Usually said with half-hearted meaning or sarcasm OR with little or no interest in ... 362496;1383141855;ozbot;Urban Dictionary: proper smickles 362497;1383141862;jcpham;boo 362498;1383141871;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 0.32 = 0.64 BTC [-] 362499;1383141872;kleeck;;;ud jcpham 362500;1383141873;gribble;Google found nothing. 362501;1383141880;jcpham;i win the internet fuckers 362502;1383141886;nubbins`;;;ud pham 362503;1383141887;kleeck;;; ud worthless 362504;1383141889;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pham | 1. pham. common Vietnamese last name. Pham is super duper fun. mark as ... Pham. alternative word for 1. cute 2. cool 3. awesome 4. great. "omg instead of ... 362505;1383141890;ozbot;Urban Dictionary: pham 362506;1383141890;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=worthless | 1. worthless. magikarp. magikarp is one of the most worthless pokemon. it's only purpose is to evolve into gyrados. mark as favorite buy worthless mugs & shirts. 362507;1383141895;ozbot;Urban Dictionary: worthless 362508;1383141902;nubbins`;:( 362509;1383141915;kleeck;jcpham = Veitnamese Magikarp. 362510;1383141930;jcpham;yes 362511;1383141931;kleeck;;;ud kleeck 362512;1383141932;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/products.php?defid=2569666 | by Andrew Van Kleeck. Definition: A plant grown and smoked in south africa. Used as a weed substitute and also provides a little zip. Example: I stayed up all  ... 362513;1383141933;ozbot;Urban Dictionary: dagga dagga t-shirts, mugs and magnets 362514;1383141941;jcpham;please do not share these secrets 362515;1383141993;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 10 @ 0.06999999 = 0.7 BTC [+] 362516;1383142103;nubbins`;okay, in this order: coffee, book binding, t-shirt mailouts, supper, meeting, jam 362517;1383142420;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0053 = 0.53 BTC [-] 362518;1383142643;pankkake;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=321228.0 362519;1383142645;ozbot;CoinSwap: Transaction graph disjoint trustless trading. 362520;1383143335;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5150 @ 0.00080729 = 4.1575 BTC [-] {2} 362521;1383144982;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.6 = 1.8 BTC [-] 362522;1383145531;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 88 @ 0.00528 = 0.4646 BTC [+] 362523;1383145714;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.63 BTC [+] 362524;1383146503;soypirate;;;nick soypirate 362525;1383146505;gribble;Error: You don't have the admin capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified. 362526;1383146517;soypirate;;;whoami 362527;1383146518;gribble;I don't recognize you. 362528;1383146629;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1337 @ 0.00081394 = 1.0882 BTC [+] 362529;1383146690;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MG] 1337 @ 0.0002 = 0.2674 BTC [+] 362530;1383146932;kakobrekla;hm 362531;1383146946;kakobrekla;im down to lesser number of euros than bitcoin again. 362532;1383146973;bob____;who is being cute? 362533;1383146980;bob____;buying leet amounts of mpoe + mg 362534;1383146993;kakobrekla;havent even noticed. 362535;1383146999;bob____;^ last two sales 362536;1383147004;kakobrekla;i see nao 362537;1383147026;bob____;and where's the love for bitbet? 362538;1383147076;kakobrekla;cant afford it all ya know 362539;1383147080;bob____;hehe 362540;1383147179;soypirate;/msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER soypirate ladkuxgdzcuh 362541;1383147193;kakobrekla;change your password 362542;1383147214;kleeck;OMG D00DS: http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-1054541 362543;1383147218;kleeck;RUN FOR TEH HILLZ 362544;1383147241;bob____;the british are coming! 362545;1383147254;TomServo;potentially disastrous 362546;1383147276;kleeck;OMG EVERY1 IZ FOLLOWING SUIT! 362547;1383147308;bob____;so cnn lets anyone post shit to their site? that is really odd 362548;1383147334;bob____;the author of that post joined cnn "iReport" today 362549;1383147336;kleeck;not sure what "irereport" really means. 362550;1383147342;kleeck;oh 362551;1383147345;kleeck;iREPORT. 362552;1383147346;kleeck;Clever. 362553;1383147350;kleeck;AKA Blog. 362554;1383147369;bob____;not even blog. more like a wiki i guess. anyone can post. 362555;1383147372;kleeck;How can I write a blog that looks like news... hmmm... Oh, look CNN. 362556;1383147399;kleeck;"BITCOIN TO THE... MARS? MARTIANS LOVE BITCOIN! SPIKE INCOMING!!" 362557;1383147415;bob____;"and this time it will be permanent" 362558;1383147425;kleeck;"FOR.EV.ER" 362559;1383147452;kleeck;"I'm not saying I can see the future, Bob, but this over. Permanently." 362560;1383147508;kleeck;Did anyone read the /r/bestof post regarding the phrase, "I'm all for" or "I'm not saying" pre-cursor? 362561;1383147560;kleeck;The conclusion being: Anytime someone starts a phrase with "Look, I'm all for X, but Y" the Y == NOT being all for X at all. 362562;1383147584;kleeck;Or "I'm not saying X, but Y" Y == saying X. 362563;1383147627;bob____;google can't find it. 362564;1383147657;kleeck;Ex, "I'm not saying it's ok to operate on stereeotypical assumptions, but I'll always have Jew do my taxes." 362565;1383147671;bob____;and be my doctor 362566;1383147675;kleeck;etc etc 362567;1383147709;kleeck;I kept trying to come up with exceptions. Couldn't. 362568;1383147792;nubbins`;bitcoin to the mars 362569;1383148003;bitesak;;;ticker 362570;1383148004;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 214.00000, Best ask: 214.11110, Bid-ask spread: 0.11110, Last trade: 214.11109, 24 hour volume: 9684.37267783, 24 hour low: 210.00000, 24 hour high: 216.50000, 24 hour vwap: 213.46971 362571;1383151713;dexX7;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1pj7yq/why_i_believe_were_on_the_cusp_of_the_3rd_great/ 362572;1383151713;ozbot;Why I believe we're on the cusp of the 3rd great Bitcoin bubble : Bitcoin 362573;1383151774;bob____;um, i just read on cnn that bitcoin is toast. 362574;1383151802;dexX7;really, the post is great ;) 362575;1383151850;MTBmanTT;good read 362576;1383151875;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.6325 = 1.265 BTC [+] {2} 362577;1383151887;jcpham;except it came from reddit 362578;1383151927;bob____;so.. his theory is that last time the crash was due in large part to gox not being able to handle the volume. But this time we have bitstamp! 362579;1383151936;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 172 @ 0.00522969 = 0.8995 BTC [-] {7} 362580;1383151961;dexX7;hehe 362581;1383152014;KRS-;When did CNN decide bitcoin is over? 362582;1383152046;bob____;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-10-2013#362542 362583;1383152049;ozbot;#bitcoin-assets log 362584;1383152121;dexX7;very vague 362585;1383152834;ColdHardMetal;http://money.cnn.com/2013/05/14/investing/bremmer-bitcoin/?iid=EL 362586;1383152834;ozbot;Ian Bremmer: Bitcoin won't last but virtual currencies will - May. 14, 2013 362587;1383152949;ColdHardMetal;although that's from May. Just linked from a Oct 29 story. 362588;1383152961;ColdHardMetal;http://money.cnn.com/2013/10/29/investing/london-bitcoin-exchange/ 362589;1383152962;ozbot;London Bitcoin exchange opens for business - Oct. 29, 2013 362590;1383153396;pigeons;http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-10/24/bitcoin-exchange-collapse-glbse 362591;1383153397;ozbot;Founder reflects on the closure of Bitcoin stock exchange GLBSE (Wired UK) 362592;1383153477;pigeons;ok, seriously, what I don't get. If its okay to open an exchange in the UK so long as you comply with all Food and Drug Administration safety rules, why did he have to close GLBT? 362593;1383153559;jurov;GLBSE was *stock* exchange, rather fickle animal 362594;1383153597;pigeons;ah 362595;1383153620;jcpham;trading tokens is fine 362596;1383153629;jcpham;just not stocks, eh 362597;1383153642;dexX7;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FDA_(trade_union) < i think this is the "fda" 362598;1383153660;pigeons;dexX7: stop ruining my fun with facts 362599;1383153683;jurov;i think twas only freudian slip, elsewhere they mention only the FSA 362600;1383153693;pigeons;yeah 362601;1383153704;pigeons;more fun to call it FDA, again 362602;1383153721;dexX7;haha fine 362603;1383153726;dexX7;sorry ._." 362604;1383153818;jurov;GLBSE was insanitary, FDA closed it 362605;1383153950;pankkake;hmm… maybe it was a rat that chewed mpex's power cables 362606;1383154062;jurov;you mean the *same* rat? 362607;1383154096;jurov;maybe it chewed at btct, too 362608;1383154437;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 85 @ 0.00539999 = 0.459 BTC [+] 362609;1383154559;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 181 @ 0.001099 = 0.1989 BTC [+] 362610;1383154803;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 56 @ 0.0054 = 0.3024 BTC [+] 362611;1383154864;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 671 @ 0.00546837 = 3.6693 BTC [+] {3} 362612;1383155378;jcpham;https://www.paypal-blueprint.com/about 362613;1383155379;ozbot;PayPal | Startup Blueprint 362614;1383155957;pigeons;step 1. 362615;1383155970;topace;man the crypto-locker phone calls keep on coming 362616;1383155975;topace;getting 2-5/ day now 362617;1383155981;topace;people want to buy exactly 2.00 bitcoins 362618;1383155983;topace;i know why 362619;1383155985;topace;right awya 362620;1383156755;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00081286 = 1.9509 BTC [-] 362621;1383156938;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6395 BTC [+] 362622;1383157060;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6395 BTC [+] 362623;1383157399;jurov;does anyone know how to access signature function in electrum? i want to make a cheatsheet for users 362624;1383157472;bitesak;jurov: I do 362625;1383157507;jurov;if it's just a menu, pls write it here 362626;1383157516;bitesak;go to the 362627;1383157519;bitesak;oops 362628;1383157527;jurov;it it's involved (like on blockchain.info), pls male a screenshot 362629;1383157571;jurov;*make 362630;1383157665;dexX7;jurov: go to receive - right click on one of your addresses - sign message 362631;1383157695;bitesak;ok, I need to switch computer and come back for the screenshot, it was pretty straightforward, with right click the address you wish to use under the 'receive' tab, signature, copy paste the coinbr phrase and hit sign 362632;1383157709;jurov;no it's not necessary 362633;1383157714;bitesak;great 362634;1383157716;jurov;if it';s right there on receive tab 362635;1383157721;bitesak;yup 362636;1383157723;jurov;thx 362637;1383157732;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 393 @ 0.00254249 = 0.9992 BTC [+] {3} 362638;1383157741;jurov;you won't believe what hassle blockchain.info makes of it 362639;1383157749;bitesak;i do 362640;1383157947;bitesak;i tried their android app which was a real hassle 362641;1383158341;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3050 @ 0.0008131 = 2.48 BTC [+] 362642;1383158537;bitesak;;;avgprc usd 24h 362643;1383158538;gribble;203.84 362644;1383158610;bob____;;;bc,24hprc 362645;1383158611;gribble;203.84 362646;1383158707;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.34 BTC [+] 362647;1383159256;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1889 @ 0.00081331 = 1.5363 BTC [+] {2} 362648;1383159317;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2450 @ 0.00081505 = 1.9969 BTC [+] 362649;1383159484;nubbins`;one of those days where you just keep drinking coffee until you feel ill 362650;1383159809;bob____;what an evil napkin drawing 362651;1383159816;bob____;http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/nsa-infiltrates-links-to-yahoo-google-data-centers-worldwide-snowden-documents-say/2013/10/30/e51d661e-4166-11e3-8b74-d89d714ca4dd_story.html 362652;1383159816;ozbot;NSA infiltrates links to Yahoo, Google data centers worldwide, Snowden documents say - The Washingto 362653;1383159832;jurov;nubbins`: so you are still on point 1 of your todo list? 362654;1383159844;jurov;you procrasturbator 362655;1383159871;nubbins`;i inserted "coffee" again between items 3 and 4 362656;1383159909;kakobrekla;must learn to simplify things 362657;1383159917;kakobrekla;i have a todo with only 1 task 362658;1383159926;kakobrekla;which is to look at the other todo 362659;1383159928;nubbins`;the people behind me in the lineup at the post office were displeased with me 362660;1383159933;kakobrekla;feels much less restraining 362661;1383159953;nubbins`;"hi, i'd like to send a dozen small parcels to various countries" 362662;1383159961;jurov;kakobrekla: what if it links to itself? 362663;1383159972;kakobrekla;im all done then! 362664;1383159980;nubbins`;all done, or panic? 362665;1383159985;kakobrekla;first. 362666;1383160014;kakobrekla;hierarchy exists so stupid shit cant happen 362667;1383160035;KRS-;lawlz 362668;1383160415;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1242 @ 0.00081435 = 1.0114 BTC [-] 362669;1383160469;jurov;https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1385388_654165651294840_1903427906_n.jpg ALL HAIL THE MIGHTY ATM 362670;1383160966;nubbins`;mildly amusing that all these news stories are talking about "world's first bitcoin atm!", but in canada they're referred to as ABMs (automated banking machines) 362671;1383161063;KRS-;amusing is the fact that I live in the most prominent, free, capitalist country in the world and have the most barriers to entry. 362672;1383161084;Diablo-D3;nubbins`: I saw a story that said ATM machine 362673;1383161093;Diablo-D3;I wanted to beat them with a tire iron 362674;1383161145;nubbins`;KRS-: when you say "free"... 362675;1383161161;nubbins`;Diablo-D3: just punch your PIN number into this ATM machine for me 362676;1383161188;nubbins`;then we'll hop into our boat and proceed at 10 knots per hour 362677;1383161252;pankkake;what's wrong with an ass to mouth machine? 362678;1383161299;nubbins`;heh 362679;1383161318;nubbins`;talk like that leads to human-robot apocalypses 362680;1383162001;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 174 @ 0.00267224 = 0.465 BTC [+] {5} 362681;1383162062;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 326 @ 0.00267584 = 0.8723 BTC [+] 362682;1383162349;dub;in soviet canada its called Automated Buttcoin Moosecock 362683;1383162367;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 600 @ 0.00520427 = 3.1226 BTC [-] {9} 362684;1383162384;pigeons;heh http://www.cnbc.com/id/101138137 362685;1383162489;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 35 @ 0.0051 = 0.1785 BTC [-] 362686;1383162543;jcpham;pigeons I'm seeinga cointerra miner banner ad on that cnbc page 362687;1383162560;jcpham;also read that article earlier 362688;1383162566;jcpham;twitter gaonna tank hard 362689;1383162637;pigeons;http://donation.itunix.eu/ 362690;1383162641;bob____;banner ad is retargeted. you've been on cointerra website recently 362691;1383162763;dub;if $50 is a serious financial problem its time to kill yourself 362692;1383162793;KRS-;HAHAHA 362693;1383162816;dub;or is that 3645eu? I cant read kroutmath 362694;1383162916;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6 BTC [-] 362695;1383162958;b0n1;someone from bitstamp team here? 362696;1383162966;b0n1;are they hanging around on irc? 362697;1383163089;KRS-;hi b0n1 can i help you 362698;1383163282;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1450 @ 0.00505001 = 7.3225 BTC [-] {5} 362699;1383163526;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 403 @ 0.00108001 = 0.4352 BTC [-] 362700;1383163709;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1400 @ 0.00081506 = 1.1411 BTC [+] {2} 362701;1383163831;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.61983666 = 1.8595 BTC [+] {3} 362702;1383164706;smickles;"kroutmath" lol 362703;1383165478;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00081432 = 2.7687 BTC [-] {2} 362704;1383165526;smickles;$avg 362705;1383165527;mpexbot;smickles: 203.84 362706;1383166027;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00081527 = 4.0764 BTC [+] {2} 362707;1383166267;dexX7;i just watched http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tume6vspgeg, it's worth watching 362708;1383166412;BuyingCoins;selling bitwash.cu.cc invitation codes for 1BTC (2 left) 362709;1383166430;mircea_popescu;what's that ? 362710;1383166515;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6613 @ 0.00081629 = 5.3981 BTC [+] {3} 362711;1383166522;nubbins`;"Bitwash.cu.cc is the most popular and safest bitcoin laundering marketplace with the manual escrow system." 362712;1383166525;nubbins`;lel 362713;1383166548;BuyingCoins;Coin for Coin marketplace, I'm selling invitation code for buyer account, regular price for buy acc on webiste is 5BTC 362714;1383166548;mircea_popescu;how can it be the most popular if its starting up 362715;1383166562;mircea_popescu;dawg the mpex model is spreading 362716;1383166579;BuyingCoins;I dont know, traded only twice, just selling codes here :) 362717;1383166582;dexX7;"This is only [sic] still active Bitcoin 'cleaning' market." 362718;1383166793;dexX7;lol "Bitcoin has received a 'blessing' from the Church of St. John the Evangelist, which became the first Catholic church to accept bitcoin for donations..." from https://www.secondmarket.com/education/reports/bitcoin-buzz-issue-3?mgs1=82f0dzp1NO 362719;1383166823;Namworld;secondmarket knows what really matters... 362720;1383166859;dexX7;didn't you contacted them recently? 362721;1383166876;Namworld;What? No why? 362722;1383166907;dexX7;ah, just a guess.. because you opened a thread on btctalk, i think 362723;1383166934;dexX7;something like "the (inofficial) sm thread" or so 362724;1383166957;Namworld;Oh yeah. Because not many on the forums were talking about it. Seems no one cares about secondmarket's fund. 362725;1383166973;dexX7;ah okay 362726;1383166989;Namworld;I was in touch with them for completly unrelated reasons tho. 362727;1383167064;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19582 @ 0.00081829 = 16.0238 BTC [+] {5} 362728;1383167613;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5026 @ 0.00081928 = 4.1177 BTC [+] {2} 362729;1383167613;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00267613 = 0.2676 BTC [-] 362730;1383167735;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 84 @ 0.00539949 = 0.4536 BTC [+] {3} 362731;1383167945;jcpham;these guys are interested in investments 362732;1383167950;jcpham;some of them 362733;1383168032;jcpham;<Bitzino> -Bitzino Casino Investment opportunities available. 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Invest for a week, bi weekly, or a month 362735;1383168045;Bitzino;Thanks Jcpham. 362736;1383168047;jcpham;^ that too 362737;1383168052;jcpham;:) 362738;1383168087;dub;spam at me bro 362739;1383168107;jcpham;dub it's not 1%/day i'm pretty sure 362740;1383168119;dub;I especially how its the largest and most established but never before heard of thing on the internets 362741;1383168138;Bitzino;Pretty sure we are first result on google when you type in "Bitcoin casino" 362742;1383168151;jcpham;oops 362743;1383168162;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.31520001 BTC [-] 362744;1383168163;dub;pretty sure if I could cause your death with a mouse click right now I would do so 362745;1383168169;jcpham;i told him he was spamming 362746;1383168223;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.64 BTC [+] 362747;1383168508;mircea_popescu;dub i vaguely recall it from the forum digests. 362748;1383168589;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 369 @ 0.05564119 = 20.5316 BTC [-] {8} 362749;1383168833;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.64 BTC [+] 362750;1383169687;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2200 @ 0.00016 = 0.352 BTC [-] 362751;1383169809;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 265 @ 0.00266977 = 0.7075 BTC [-] {2} 362752;1383169810;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2550 @ 0.00081446 = 2.0769 BTC [-] {2} 362753;1383169992;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.1585 = 0.317 BTC [-] 362754;1383170053;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00082132 = 4.4351 BTC [+] 362755;1383170114;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1119 @ 0.001081 = 1.2096 BTC [-] {2} 362756;1383170115;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 790 @ 0.00016 = 0.1264 BTC [-] 362757;1383170419;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 18 @ 0.0551 = 0.9918 BTC [-] 362758;1383170602;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 69 @ 0.00514 = 0.3547 BTC [-] {2} 362759;1383170663;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 250 @ 0.00503562 = 1.2589 BTC [-] {9} 362760;1383170664;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.6 = 2.4 BTC [-] {2} 362761;1383173286;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00082132 = 6.1599 BTC [+] 362762;1383173713;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 23 @ 0.005 = 0.115 BTC [-] {3} 362763;1383174018;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] [PAID] 32.87308080 BTC to 9`303 shares, 353360 satoshi per share 362764;1383174018;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00511199 = 0.5112 BTC [+] {2} 362765;1383174079;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 200 @ 0.00107245 = 0.2145 BTC [-] {4} 362766;1383174140;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 138 @ 0.00513999 = 0.7093 BTC [+] {2} 362767;1383174384;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.00513999 = 0.2056 BTC [+] {2} 362768;1383174506;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.595 BTC [-] 362769;1383175461;benkay;;;help 362770;1383175463;gribble;The bot responds when you start a line with the ! character. A good starting point for exploring the bot is the !facts command. You can also visit the bot's website for a list of help topics and documentation: http://gribble.sourceforge.net/ 362771;1383175468;benkay;!help 362772;1383175468;assbot;List of commands: 362773;1383175469;assbot;!ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !t} 362774;1383175470;assbot;!last <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns last price value, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !l} 362775;1383175471;assbot;!mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order) 362776;1383175472;assbot;!rules <nick/chan> (desc: chan guidelines) {short: !r} 362777;1383175473;assbot;!exchanges <nick/chan> (desc: lists exchanges and brokers) {short: !e} 362778;1383175474;assbot;!jd (desc: returns relevant stats from https://just-dice.com) 362779;1383175475;assbot;!bash <lines> (desc: bashes last <lines> lines to bash) {short: !b} 362780;1383175476;assbot;!quote <lines> (desc: quotes last <lines> lines and returns dpaste url) {short: !q} 362781;1383175848;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 0.4 = 0.8 BTC [+] 362782;1383176212;mircea_popescu;http://www.reddit.com/r/gadgets/comments/1pkr9q/cardano_pricepoint_released/ < if anyone got a voting account... 362783;1383176397;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00016 = 0.16 BTC [-] 362784;1383177005;benkay;ping mircea_popescu please see pm 362785;1383177115;mircea_popescu;aye 362786;1383177617;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] [PAID] 12.79782396 BTC to 381`228 shares, 3357 satoshi per share 362787;1383178349;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 22 @ 0.00514 = 0.1131 BTC [+] {2} 362788;1383178715;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 7 @ 0.06981428 = 0.4887 BTC [+] {2} 362789;1383178898;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 8 @ 0.069999 = 0.56 BTC [+] 362790;1383179020;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 11 @ 0.06999954 = 0.77 BTC [+] {3} 362791;1383179997;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2000 @ 0.00016 = 0.32 BTC [-] 362792;1383180236;benkay;;;market 362793;1383180237;gribble;Error: "market" is not a valid command. 362794;1383180263;benkay;what's the command to see how much the price would move for an asset given a specific buy/sell size? 362795;1383180283;mircea_popescu;;;sell 500 362796;1383180284;gribble;(sell <amount> <thing> [at|@] <priceperunit> <otherthing> [<notes>]) -- Logs a sell order for <amount> units of <thing, at a price of <price> per unit, in units of <otherthing>. Use the optional <notes> field to put in any special notes. <price> may include an arithmetical expression, and {(mtgox|bitstamp)(ask|bid|last|high|low|avg)} to index price to mtgox ask, bid, last, high, (1 more message) 362797;1383180289;mircea_popescu;um 362798;1383180295;mircea_popescu;;;market sell 500 362799;1383180298;gribble;A market order to sell 500 bitcoins right now would net 102290.2509 USD and would take the last price down to 204.0020 USD, resulting in an average price of 204.5805 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0001 seconds 362800;1383180301;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 21 @ 0.00514285 = 0.108 BTC [+] {2} 362801;1383180471;benkay;does not work for assets? 362802;1383180632;mircea_popescu;not afaik. 362803;1383180637;mircea_popescu;best you got there is 362804;1383180641;mircea_popescu;$vwap S.NSA 362805;1383180642;mpexbot;mircea_popescu: S.NSA 1 day: no data 7 day: no data 30 day: average: 0.0001 high: 0.00010005 low: 0.0001 volume: 4092075 btc: 409.212695 362806;1383180647;mircea_popescu;oh i mean 362807;1383180649;mircea_popescu;$depth S.NSA 362808;1383180651;mpexbot;mircea_popescu: S.NSA Bids: ['1337 @ 0.00015', '100000 @ 0.0001', '1000 @ 0.0001', '700 @ 0.0001', '5000 @ 9.1e-05'] 362809;1383180652;mpexbot;mircea_popescu: Asks: ['1000 @ 0.00023', '10000 @ 0.000232', '2500 @ 0.000233', '3000 @ 0.000234', '5000 @ 0.000235'] 362810;1383180661;b0n1;what do you say about the potential of ripple? 362811;1383180667;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.00519999 = 0.104 BTC [+] 362812;1383180672;benkay;lol at 1337 @ 0.00015 362813;1383180692;benkay;has it not been exhausted, b0n1, draining wealth from the foolish already? 362814;1383180711;benkay;why do i care about cryptographically secured debt of american banks? 362815;1383180714;mircea_popescu;did it get open sourced for reals iirc ? 362816;1383180728;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 34 @ 0.00519999 = 0.1768 BTC [+] {3} 362817;1383180769;b0n1;benkay, what do you mean? 362818;1383180850;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 28 @ 0.00534998 = 0.1498 BTC [+] {2} 362819;1383180996;Namworld;That ripple is horseshit is what he meant 362820;1383181023;benkay;i can sign a promise to pay you some money 362821;1383181039;benkay;and with my OTC reputation, it'd be largely worthless 362822;1383181072;benkay;american banks are going to ignore cryptocurrencies until their lunches are thoroughly et 362823;1383181082;benkay;"what ever will we do with our chargeback fraud department?" 362824;1383181091;benkay;mired in their own paradigms 362825;1383181130;Namworld;Instead of being an open-source currency, ripple is (not sure if it is yet) an open-source ledger of who owes who, with debt used as money. If that's not an issue in your book... 362826;1383181153;Namworld;I'll pass on ripple, debt is not money 362827;1383181212;benkay;$depth S.MPOE 362828;1383181213;mpexbot;benkay: S.MPOE Bids: ['1495 @ 0.00081409', '1035 @ 0.00081286', '5250 @ 0.00081194', '3128 @ 0.00080868', '6735 @ 0.00080817'] 362829;1383181214;mircea_popescu;;;gettrust benkay 362830;1383181215;mpexbot;benkay: Asks: ['100 @ 0.00082132', '700 @ 0.00082282', '13200 @ 0.00082285', '3600 @ 0.00082333', '3228 @ 0.00082487'] 362831;1383181215;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask benkay!~benkay@c-71-193-200-93.hsd1.or.comcast.net. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user benkay: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=benkay | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=benkay | Rated since: Sun Mar 10 13:57:45 2013 362832;1383181241;mircea_popescu;it's not THAT bad. 362833;1383181245;benkay;heh. 362834;1383181263;benkay;i've picked the entities from whom i've asked for ratings carefully. 362835;1383181323;benkay;don't quite recall why i asked for one from smickles 362836;1383181366;mircea_popescu;so i'm buying ~1.6 bn isk worth of gear on the eve markets while selling ~5.4bn isk worth of gear 362837;1383181379;mircea_popescu;i would say bitcoin's eve corp is reasonably fiscally conservative... 362838;1383182070;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.34 = 0.68 BTC [+] 362839;1383182497;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 264 @ 0.04782021 = 12.6245 BTC [-] {13} 362840;1383182558;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.1585 BTC [-] 362841;1383182680;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.64 BTC [+] 362842;1383182985;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6015 BTC [-] 362843;1383185710;nubbins`;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypdgAyzHx5Y 362844;1383185711;ozbot;Sufjan Stevens [Full Official Album] - Seven Swans - IndieMusicAddict - YouTube 362845;1383185835;bobbabad;how long has it been taken for people to get verified on bitfunder/weexchange? 362846;1383186033;nubbins`;i want to see a headline that says "man bought $25 of bitcoins in 2009, didn't forget about them, now worth $886k" 362847;1383186103;asciilifeform;nubbins`: the peanut gallery only goes wild for stories of 'ordinary bloke like you & i lucked out!' 362848;1383186105;MTBmanTT;that be nice 362849;1383186128;asciilifeform;lottery win is 'sexy', successful investment diddling, not so much. 362850;1383186194;nubbins`;"many people, including this man who forgot about it, bought $25 of bitcoins in 2009" 362851;1383186225;nubbins`;"man buys car, forgets, now realizes he doesn't have to take the bus" 362852;1383186265;nubbins`;"woman remembers there's still cake" 362853;1383186280;nubbins`;it's like something from the onion 362854;1383186804;mircea_popescu;<nubbins`> "woman remembers there's still cake" <<< ahahaha 362855;1383186814;mircea_popescu;you speak with all the wisdom of the family man. 362856;1383186862;mircea_popescu;http://imagehaul.com/haul/e4d7f5 362857;1383186863;ozbot;Imagehaul - Opposite day 362858;1383186884;mircea_popescu;i salute the idea of getting the kids used to bdsm early, tho the implementation is perhaps a little shoddy. 362859;1383187204;nubbins`;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=321370.0 362860;1383187206;ozbot;Selling THC tests and Pregnancy tests 362861;1383187209;nubbins`;title says it all 362862;1383187265;mircea_popescu;lol 362863;1383187356;MTBmanTT;lol 362864;1383187413;mircea_popescu;especially seeing how his nick is giveaway and his products are like... overpriced. 362865;1383187429;mircea_popescu;what sort of retard is this, most countries actually give out free preg tests, or otherwise heavily sponsor them 362866;1383188130;nubbins`;http://www.mint.ca/store/coin/1-oz.-fine-silver-coin-polar-bear-mintage-8500-2014-prod1730022#.UnHFwJSxPk0 362867;1383188131;ozbot;1 oz. Fine Silver Coin - Polar Bear - Mintage: 8,500 (2014) 362868;1383190189;Ademan;Is havelock running like crap for anyone else? 362869;1383190242;Vexual;yeah its not loading here 362870;1383190357;Vexual;is it a haloween year? 362871;1383190548;mircea_popescu;http://www.ijreview.com/2013/10/90985-man-wears-obama-mask-company-halloween-party-company-promptly-orders-sensitivity-training-750-employees/ 362872;1383190549;ozbot;Man Wears Obama Mask To Office Halloween Party; Company Orders Sensitivity Training For All 750 Em 362873;1383190551;mircea_popescu;nowit is. 362874;1383190607;Vexual;i want two of those nsa t's so i can not go to a party as not something atall 362875;1383190622;mircea_popescu;hehe 362876;1383190630;mircea_popescu;good idea this. 362877;1383190657;Vexual;who designed them? 362878;1383190671;asciilifeform;'and then one day upon the stair, i met a man who wasn't there; he wasn't there again today - i really wish he'd go away.' 362879;1383190676;Vexual;i think theyre fuckin cool 362880;1383190707;mircea_popescu;:) 362881;1383190758;mircea_popescu;they were designed by the following procedure : asciilifeform and me threw around ideas, settled on usb finger, then i had a bunch of women send me pics of their hands flipping the bird, then i had it outlined and printed. 362882;1383190818;mircea_popescu;proving once and for all that the best work designers do is when the tech and management people just give them clear and concise orders they can follow. 362883;1383190854;Vexual;what no eagles vagina? 362884;1383190866;mircea_popescu;sadly we couldn't find a vagina large enough. 362885;1383190872;Vexual;rofl 362886;1383190930;Vexual;does the acrylic go right around? i want to cast a copy in lead 362887;1383190934;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform just don't look around the hall. 362888;1383190952;mircea_popescu;Vexual what's "right around" ? 362889;1383191019;asciilifeform;i can't help but think of the lead casts they must've pulled from the corpses of counterfeiters executed in the traditional way, in the old days. 362890;1383191067;Vexual;whoaha brother, im not counterfeiting anything 362891;1383191095;Vexual;ive got 4000 dvds 362892;1383191095;asciilifeform;well, lead and orifices mentioned together. 362893;1383191122;mircea_popescu;lol 362894;1383191130;asciilifeform;btw, some joker wrote a paper (maybe competing for the igNobel?) replicating this on cow carcasses 362895;1383191136;asciilifeform;got some pretty interesting casts. 362896;1383191211;Vexual;have you seen the hangman in going postal? 362897;1383191231;Vexual;he gets the guy to sign the noose so he can auction it for more on the clacks 362898;1383191295;Vexual;clever lady that terri hatchet 362899;1383191537;Vexual;ill breathe some lead fumes to make you some protective sleeves 362900;1383191603;Vexual;i just need an ore deposit, never seen no lead 362901;1383191649;asciilifeform;Vexual: never been fishing? 362902;1383191769;Vexual;i can get iron and manganese and make good steel with sticks in a week 362903;1383191831;Vexual;you can weld some of the rocks found around these parts 362904;1383192049;Vexual;asciilifeform I'm sure I can find some kids to collect car wheel balancing weights for a six pack of light beer 362905;1383192096;asciilifeform;Vexual: best place to get astounding quantities of lead, cheaply, is... a boatyard. 362906;1383192123;asciilifeform;or maybe not anymore, with prices being what they are. 'peak lead'... 362907;1383192233;BingoBoingo;If you are brave enough to trek to Missouri there is still plenty in the rocks to be mined. 362908;1383192462;BingoBoingo;Doing things the official way would be expensive, but guerilla lead mining might be economical. 362909;1383192785;mircea_popescu;i used to have ~30kgs of lead soldiers 362910;1383192793;mircea_popescu;strangely enough they weren't unsafe for kids back then 362911;1383193077;mircea_popescu;somebody tell vragnaroda to come back 362912;1383193159;Vexual;is that a vampire? 362913;1383193238;mircea_popescu;just a naxi 362914;1383193431;Vexual;badman nonetheless im guessing 362915;1383193439;mircea_popescu;nah 362916;1383193491;Vexual;im noot familiar with naxi 362917;1383193508;BingoBoingo;Anyone here have a CoinBr invite code? 362918;1383193571;Vexual;Xr8gh%! 362919;1383193614;mircea_popescu;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=321265.0 362920;1383193616;ozbot;Bitcoin TOP-500 Richest 362921;1383193619;mircea_popescu;look who's back 362922;1383193665;Vexual;im opening the shyrah soon 362923;1383193869;Vexual;now that is the most delicoious smell anywhere 362924;1383193926;Vexual;you can tell the winmaker made 10million percent mopre than the pickers 362925;1383193957;Vexual;evily good 362926;1383194005;Vexual;old vines 362927;1383194232;Vexual;of course there are much older vine in europe 362928;1383195053;mircea_popescu;$vwap s.mpoe 362929;1383195054;mpexbot;mircea_popescu: S.MPOE 1 day: average: 0.0008168 high: 0.00082379 low: 0.00080585 volume: 105980 btc: 86.56439203 7 day: average: 0.0008168 high: 0.00082379 low: 0.00080585 volume: 105980 btc: 86.56439203 30 day: average: 0.00085145 high: 0.00094023 low: 0.00080585 volume: 1858684 btc: 1582.56985214 362930;1383196507;BingoBoingo;Sigh... The World Series BitBets can be resolved. 362931;1383197869;assbot;[MPEX] [S.BBET] 1805 @ 0.00046737 = 0.8436 BTC [-] {2} 362932;1383200187;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00082278 = 2.2215 BTC [+] {3} 362933;1383202417;Ademan;Havelock still looks down :-/ 362934;1383204786;dub;http://qz.com/140370 362935;1383204788;ozbot;What eating $115,000 in pig trotters reveals about Chinese local government debt – Quartz 362936;1383204804;dub;wats asicminers trotter spend I wonder 362937;1383209764;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13450 @ 0.00082298 = 11.0691 BTC [+] {2} 362938;1383211533;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3750 @ 0.00082371 = 3.0889 BTC [+] 362939;1383211601;BingoBoingo;dub: Not sure. I've always found snoots to be a more delicious part of the pig. 362940;1383211927;dub;cam't go past the belly 362941;1383212692;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 105 @ 0.00534998 = 0.5617 BTC [+] {3} 362942;1383212753;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 250 @ 0.00535 = 1.3375 BTC [+] {2} 362943;1383212936;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 35 @ 0.00535 = 0.1873 BTC [+] 362944;1383213241;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.61 = 1.22 BTC [+] 362945;1383213242;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 500 @ 0.00535 = 2.675 BTC [+] 362946;1383213302;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 86 @ 0.00535 = 0.4601 BTC [+] 362947;1383213303;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61 BTC [+] 362948;1383213485;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.61 = 1.22 BTC [+] 362949;1383213668;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61 BTC [+] 362950;1383213729;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61 BTC [+] 362951;1383213895;jurov;;;later tell mircea_popescu S.MPOE dividends? 362952;1383213897;gribble;The operation succeeded. 362953;1383213942;BingoBoingo;jurov: New CoinBR rates come into effect when November 1st starts UTC? 362954;1383214012;jurov;eager to withdraw? 362955;1383214038;jurov;but yes, 1st november monthly fee will be lower 362956;1383214093;jurov;oh and that thing from Vexual don't look right 362957;1383214095;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61 BTC [+] 362958;1383214158;jurov;perhaps it was not meant as answer to coinbr refcode at all :D 362959;1383214755;dub;https://coinbr.com/ref?c=A3R7Tstq16 362960;1383214757;ozbot;About CoinBr 362961;1383214762;dub;thats more better 362962;1383214766;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00535 = 0.535 BTC [+] 362963;1383214850;BingoBoingo;Ah jurov yeah I just started and account. I guess I'm depositing on the 1st then. 362964;1383214885;BingoBoingo;Eh, maybe I'm drunker than I thought. 362965;1383215010;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.61 = 1.22 BTC [+] 362966;1383215018;random_cat_;man, i had pig tongue the other day for the first time... what a treat 362967;1383215050;jurov;BingoBoingo: if you managed to successfully verify btc signature, then you're not drunk enough 362968;1383215076;jurov;(i deployed a patch yest that you can't register without doing that) 362969;1383215134;BingoBoingo;jurov: I actually did manage that, but that was right when I opened the bottle. Now the bottle is empty and there is one half glass left. 362970;1383215136;random_cat_;is bitfunder expiring? 362971;1383215231;random_cat_;err.. unwinding 362972;1383215268;BingoBoingo;random_cat_: Buttfunder is doing something... 362973;1383215345;random_cat_;is there a discussion somewhere? 362974;1383215496;jurov;check #bitfunder 362975;1383215498;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 51 @ 0.00535 = 0.2729 BTC [+] 362976;1383215528;jurov;but i don't see any unwinding there, just 'muricans and ppl who lost 2FA bickering 362977;1383215559;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.00535 = 0.1605 BTC [+] 362978;1383215560;random_cat_;hmm... what's the 2fa bickering amount to? 362979;1383215596;jurov;if you lose your google auth key, you have to come to irc and pass battery of turing tests 362980;1383215628;jurov;such as, patiently waiting few hours for ukyo to appear. bots cannot do that. 362981;1383215630;random_cat_;o 362982;1383215639;random_cat_;:D 362983;1383215649;random_cat_;i'd think bots would be ideal for that ;> 362984;1383215722;random_cat_;i'm just logging in after a hiatus and seeing depressed prices + notices about position changes for 'us entities' 362985;1383215739;random_cat_;and very vague statements about withdrawals 362986;1383215966;random_cat_;looks like he's looking for KYC too 362987;1383216130;jurov;yes, KYC from everyone... but verifications seems to be stalled 362988;1383216152;random_cat_;how so? 362989;1383216186;random_cat_;ukyo isnt processing them? 362990;1383216374;jurov;i had to remind him to process mine after a week.. and others wait longer 362991;1383216391;random_cat_;ugh 362992;1383216487;BingoBoingo;jurov: Now CoinBr is going the MPEx route and AML/KYC can burn in hell? 362993;1383216565;jurov;Yes. I even paid for some research and it's no problem around here. 362994;1383216833;jurov;Actually, there will be a LLC listed as CoinBr operator soon :) 362995;1383217145;BingoBoingo;I just want to pick up some S.NSA before they start shipping. 362996;1383218243;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.601 BTC [-] 362997;1383218636;BingoBoingo;My latest blog post props to asciilifeform and Country Club(TM) Vodka for getting my paranoia up enough to write it. http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2013/10/31/on-the-difficulty-of-securing-channels/ 362998;1383218853;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6594999 BTC [+] 362999;1383218854;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 68 @ 0.00535 = 0.3638 BTC [+] {2} 363000;1383219262;kakobrekla;BingoBoingo what made you miss the ipo? 363001;1383219273;kakobrekla;11:32.10 ( jurov ) but i don't see any unwinding there, just 'muricans and ppl who lost 2FA bickering 363002;1383219294;kakobrekla;am i seeing jurov disctinct between merricans and people in general? 363003;1383219341;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.601 BTC [-] 363004;1383219348;BingoBoingo;kakobrekla: To the extent I want to declare just I hadn't had a broker yet. To the question of whether I have an actual MPEx key or not I'd like to remain silent. 363005;1383219392;kakobrekla;:) 363006;1383219422;BingoBoingo;kakobrekla: This is Bitcoin. Plausible deniability is a feature. 363007;1383219436;kakobrekla;be my guest! 363008;1383219503;BingoBoingo;kakobrekla: Also to my regrets it is safe for those world series bets to be resolved... 363009;1383219579;kakobrekla;if i see correctly resolution comes in 12hrs 363010;1383220134;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.6 = 2.4 BTC [-] 363011;1383220393;BingoBoingo;kakobrekla: For the red Sox. The Cardinals bet is safe to call lost. 363012;1383220556;kakobrekla;no worries, the mods will resolve it promply enough 363013;1383220569;kakobrekla;promptly 363014;1383220673;BingoBoingo;Cool kakobrekla. Thermos didn't kick you from Bitcointalk yet did he? 363015;1383220695;kakobrekla;i was banned 363016;1383220698;Scrat;why do they call it world series? only murrica is playing 363017;1383220712;kakobrekla;by some duchebag called 'BadBear' i think. 363018;1383220734;BingoBoingo;Eh, I'll add it to the Thermos scam accusation thread. 363019;1383220736;kakobrekla;anywho it expires in a month and a half or smth. 363020;1383220758;kakobrekla;dont lose any energy over it BB 363021;1383220763;BingoBoingo;Scrat: Because the Dominican Republic can't do everything. 363022;1383220805;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIM] [PAID] 60.00000000 BTC to 40`000 shares, 150000 satoshi per share 363023;1383220865;kakobrekla;btw here is what happend: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-10-2013#357097 363024;1383220925;BingoBoingo;;;eauth bingoboingo 363025;1383220926;gribble;Request successful for user bingoboingo, hostmask BingoBoingo!~BingoBoin@unaffiliated/bingoboingo. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/309BB8D7F3251143 363026;1383220927;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69348300 BTC to 1`386`966 shares, 50 satoshi per share 363027;1383220989;BingoBoingo;;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:29d77016adca25616623c9e60f4e8f1c00d0cdcb837d8212a69d1056 363028;1383220993;gribble;You are now authenticated for user BingoBoingo with key 309BB8D7F3251143 363029;1383221111;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2200 @ 0.00268682 = 5.911 BTC [+] {5} 363030;1383221154;BingoBoingo;;;rate garr255 -5 auction shill bidding protected by Thermos on forum 363031;1383221156;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of -5 for user garr255 has been recorded. 363032;1383221171;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 311 @ 0.00269638 = 0.8386 BTC [+] {2} 363033;1383221232;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 40 @ 0.00269999 = 0.108 BTC [+] 363034;1383221233;BingoBoingo;At least even with the World Series loss I'm still at quite the net positive betting on BitBet 363035;1383221350;kakobrekla;:) 363036;1383221530;BingoBoingo;That S.Dice vs. S.BBEt bet was little short of a miracle. I mean other than the part where I expected Erik to get delisted sooner. 363037;1383221610;kakobrekla;I lost on that one iirc :) 363038;1383221814;BingoBoingo;I figured that one would win on contingencies related to delisting after his disappeared post IPO for a while 363039;1383221964;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.63532 = 6.3532 BTC [+] {5} 363040;1383223744;BingoBoingo;skinnkavaj: Good to see you joined. How many litecoins sucked your dick today? 363041;1383223801;skinnkavaj;BingoBoingo: Many 363042;1383223909;kakobrekla;whats the going rate for ltc now? 363043;1383224130;BingoBoingo;Last I checked LTC was worth barely more than 5 PeePeeCoins on the site that can't stop getting hacked https://vircurex.com/ 363044;1383224404;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] [PAID] 4.43000000 BTC to 886 shares, 500000 satoshi per share 363045;1383224407;kakobrekla;aha 363046;1383224414;kakobrekla;at .01 now 363047;1383224592;BingoBoingo;Seems ASICs are litecoin's only hope at ever having value again. Same problem dollars have, there aren't dollar ASICs yet. 363048;1383224892;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 50 @ 0.00779983 = 0.39 BTC [-] {2} 363049;1383224942;thestringpuller;;;seen smickles 363050;1383224943;gribble;smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 16 hours, 30 minutes, and 14 seconds ago: <smickles> $avg 363051;1383224972;nubbins`;afaik, it's called "the world series" because of the name of the newspaper that first sponsored it 363052;1383225014;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.64 BTC [+] 363053;1383227027;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 39 @ 0.00534307 = 0.2084 BTC [+] {2} 363054;1383227125;nubbins`;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dJfmsA-Yxk 363055;1383227125;ozbot;HEALTH - "We Are Water" (Explicit Content) Lovepump United / City Slang - YouTube 363056;1383227135;nubbins`;^ happy halloween, -assets 363057;1383227173;ThickAsThieves;happy halloween 363058;1383227179;jcpham;http://organofcorti.blogspot.com/2013/10/146-distribution-of-investor-bitcoin.html 363059;1383227179;ozbot;Neighbourhood Pool Watch: 14.6 Size matters: Investor bitcoin distribution at Just-Dice.com 363060;1383227454;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 169 @ 0.0010985 = 0.1856 BTC [+] 363061;1383227455;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.593 BTC [-] 363062;1383227583;truffles;omg nubbins` dont kill her 363063;1383227594;nubbins`;keep watching! 363064;1383227616;truffles;pleasantly surprised the music isnt shit lol 363065;1383227652;truffles;oh my 363066;1383227666;truffles;not there 363067;1383227703;nubbins`;HEH 363068;1383227712;nubbins`;health is really good, i saw them play live a few years ago 363069;1383227714;kleeck;nubbins`, that's one of my favorite vids 363070;1383227730;nubbins`;kleeck, it's directed by Eric Wareheim from Tim & Eric, hey? 363071;1383227735;kleeck;Yeh. 363072;1383227741;kleeck;SUper good. 363073;1383227751;truffles;what genre is this? 363074;1383227798;kleeck;Noise Rock. 363075;1383227839;nubbins`;for all the good that'll do ya 363076;1383227847;nubbins`;i've never heard a band that sounds quite like health 363077;1383227857;pankkake;> 6 of your friends listen to Health 363078;1383227859;kakobrekla;cool stuff jcpham, seems like the density peak is at 12 btc or so 363079;1383227865;pankkake;surprisingly first time I hear of it 363080;1383227877;truffles;well if i could understand the lyrics id rate the band higher.. 363081;1383227886;kleeck;I like a lot of Ambient/Instrumental stuff 363082;1383227953;nubbins`;truffles, the singer looks nothing like you'd expect 363083;1383227954;nubbins`;http://cdn.stereogum.com/files/2007/10/qydj_HEALTH.jpg 363084;1383227957;nubbins`;guy with the hat 363085;1383227972;kakobrekla;and a billion of investors with 0.08 btc 363086;1383227985;kakobrekla;no wonder they go there cause not much else to do with that ammt 363087;1383227988;kakobrekla;amount 363088;1383228002;whiskers;http://pastebin.com/d1Wafvab 363089;1383228003;ozbot;users/PirateMitten/salt => 6477256794 users/peapodayb8UQ => true earnrooms => - Pastebin.com 363090;1383228012;truffles;nubbins` i guess not 363091;1383228026;truffles;but they do remind me of a breathy female trying to do the sexy voice : d 363092;1383228038;nubbins`;haha 363093;1383228060;truffles;if they could speak up.. 363094;1383228223;truffles;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPSmtGTLB3A not happy with this one.. 363095;1383228224;ozbot;Health - In Heat - YouTube 363096;1383228424;truffles;John Famiglietti, should do comedy : D 363097;1383228557;nubbins`;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFL2UhlJfAA <<< the self-titled album is better 363098;1383228558;ozbot;HEALTH - Crimewave - YouTube 363099;1383228573;jcpham;yeah kakobrekla the distribution works about how you would imagine it work 363100;1383228591;jcpham;all the tiny dust investments 363101;1383228602;jcpham;and the 4 or 5 heavy hitters 363102;1383228632;truffles;high pressure days.. can actually hear vocals.. 363103;1383228772;nubbins`;"Ghouls gone wild at local Halloween house" 363104;1383228797;truffles;like crimewave best 363105;1383228952;KRS-;Happy Halloween, the national holiday of Romania. 363106;1383229077;truffles;does dracula come out? 363107;1383229094;KRS-;I think so..during the day even. 363108;1383229118;truffles;thought that was only hybrids 363109;1383229257;KRS-;If you are standing around are you going to wait to figure it out if its a real Romanian vampire or a hybrid? I wouldn't..you'd be standing there by yourself! I'd rather be at the pub where there are people around. 363110;1383229284;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.34999 BTC [+] 363111;1383229287;truffles;well if they are vamps u cant really out run em 363112;1383229387;jcpham;vampires glitter in the sunlight 363113;1383229398;truffles;twilight much 363114;1383229410;jcpham;nah dawg i read it on wikimedia 363115;1383229411;nubbins`;if you're at the pub, you only need to outrun the drunks 363116;1383229457;truffles;well their blood might be like poison so... 363117;1383229477;nubbins`;http://imgur.com/k7juTRd 363118;1383229478;ozbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 363119;1383229481;KRS-;what do you do then..maybe Mircea Popescu has seen one before..he woul dknow. 363120;1383229484;nubbins`;now that's a fucking sick coin 363121;1383229496;truffles;maybe he is one 363122;1383229509;kakobrekla;nubbins` sick? the bear is sick? 363123;1383229525;kakobrekla;looks healthy to me 363124;1383229526;nubbins`;nah, the other type of sick 363125;1383229535;nubbins`;"SICK coin, man!" 363126;1383229548;nubbins`;i guess maybe that's not a common usage of the word? heh 363127;1383229562;kakobrekla;nah im just trolln 363128;1383229568;nubbins`;;| 363129;1383229573;jcpham;i ordered one of these titan bitcoins 363130;1383229584;truffles;english prob isnt his native language nubbins` 363131;1383229588;jcpham;but i think their two factor is crap so i asked for the privte key 363132;1383229605;nubbins`;i'm kinda done with physical bitcoins 363133;1383229607;jcpham;who the shit sells a physical bitcoin without funding it 363134;1383229633;nubbins`;i mean, i'm glad i have a bunch, because otherwise i probably would have lost them on shitty investments 363135;1383229633;jcpham;i kinda have a nice collection at this point and want to keep collecting examples 363136;1383229637;truffles;;;ticker 363137;1383229639;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 209.45002, Best ask: 209.99494, Bid-ask spread: 0.54492, Last trade: 209.45000, 24 hour volume: 8485.07872065, 24 hour low: 204.00000, 24 hour high: 216.46999, 24 hour vwap: 209.11730 363138;1383229644;kakobrekla;the margin on these coins is scamdiculus 363139;1383229644;nubbins`;but the premium on them is just so ridiculous 363140;1383229649;kakobrekla;ha 363141;1383229650;truffles;forgot that worked inhere! 363142;1383229651;kakobrekla;first. 363143;1383229656;jcpham;normally yes 363144;1383229656;nubbins`;not on my screen ;) 363145;1383229666;kakobrekla;you lag. 363146;1383229673;kakobrekla;the reality is here 363147;1383229674;nubbins`;supposing you lag! 363148;1383229674;jcpham;but the titan ones accept credit/paypal fake money 363149;1383229682;nubbins`;we need a second opinion 363150;1383229682;truffles;that coin is too pretty to be used as exchange 363151;1383229684;jcpham;about %20 premium 363152;1383229693;nubbins`;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-10-2013#363138 363153;1383229694;nubbins`;fuck 363154;1383229695;ozbot;#bitcoin-assets log 363155;1383229700;kakobrekla;ha 363156;1383229700;jcpham;fiat premium not bitcoinc premium 363157;1383229720;nubbins`;it's also a bit of a downer that casascius keeps cutting the prices of his coins after people buy them 363158;1383229749;jcpham;yeah i'm done with cas 363159;1383229751;nubbins`;shitty for people who bother to support him and buy early 363160;1383229776;kakobrekla;i bought before cnet wrote about it 363161;1383229779;kakobrekla;they were cheap then 363162;1383229781;truffles;sad coin too, its like all the ice is melting 363163;1383229790;kakobrekla;i think cheaper than at any later point 363164;1383229791;truffles;poor bear 363165;1383229795;nubbins`;truffles: like, or is? 363166;1383229805;jcpham;i only want the first series cas coins 363167;1383229820;kakobrekla;also back then the price you paid for that brass was cents 363168;1383229820;truffles;dunno, the background looks like clear water 363169;1383229824;kakobrekla;now its quite some dollars. 363170;1383229829;jcpham;i have a 2012 solid 10btc 363171;1383229834;jcpham;but everything is 2011 363172;1383229834;nubbins`;kako, like $40 for a piece of brass 363173;1383229839;kakobrekla;yes 363174;1383229845;kakobrekla;thats just SICK 363175;1383229853;kakobrekla;:) 363176;1383229862;nubbins`;sicker when the price drops so you have to sell yours at a loss in order to get a sale 363177;1383229879;kakobrekla;ill buy cas coins 363178;1383229881;kakobrekla;at spot value 363179;1383229883;kakobrekla;1btc per btc 363180;1383229884;nubbins`;heh 363181;1383229887;jcpham;i've gotten lucky and most of mine came from fiat purchases 363182;1383229900;jcpham;so i'm up in btc interms of investment value 363183;1383229909;kakobrekla;JU SO CLEVA! 363184;1383229910;nubbins`;i've still got the rarest casascius coins, as far as low-denominations go 363185;1383229918;nubbins`;not counting like the 100BTC bars and shit like that 363186;1383229939;jcpham;the 2011 25's are down to like 40 unredeemed 363187;1383229949;jcpham;those will keep getting rarer 363188;1383229953;nubbins`;2013 silver 0.5 BTC with series 2 hologram, only 45 ever produced 363189;1383229960;kakobrekla;i bought those 1b to give away for new year presents and stuff 363190;1383229961;nubbins`;i had 12, now only 6 remaining 363191;1383229968;kakobrekla;reactions were mixed. 363192;1383229981;truffles;its bitcoin yay 363193;1383229983;nubbins`;kakobrekla: you should follow up and see if their reaction has changed 363194;1383229993;kakobrekla;hehe 363195;1383229994;truffles;i want presents too 363196;1383230010;truffles;im ur biggest fan kako 363197;1383230018;kakobrekla;lolwat 363198;1383230028;truffles;ure being santa 363199;1383230031;nubbins`;yeah, i gave a friend a 0.5 brass some months ago for his birthday 363200;1383230037;nubbins`;i wonder if i should tell him it's worth like $150 now 363201;1383230080;truffles;my bday is coming up too 363202;1383230082;kakobrekla;you are rite truffles, i should shave and lose a few kilos 363203;1383230097;truffles;turning 36 shoudl be fun 363204;1383230103;nubbins`;anyway, i'm still into collecting coins, just not casascius coins 363205;1383230106;jcpham;the kilogram is getting smaller 363206;1383230110;jcpham;true story 363207;1383230118;kakobrekla;ill wait some more then 363208;1383230120;nubbins`;the canadian mint has some really nice ones every now and then 363209;1383230130;nubbins`;a lot of them are shit, but there are diamonds in the rough 363210;1383230131;truffles;kako ure fat? 363211;1383230145;nubbins`;fat is just a state of mind 363212;1383230147;jcpham;http://www.theguardian.com/science/2011/jan/24/scientists-weigh-up-shrinking-kilogram 363213;1383230148;ozbot;Royal Society meets to weigh up the shrinking kilogram | Science | The Guardian 363214;1383230157;kakobrekla;well not really fat but not skinny 363215;1383230162;jcpham;platinum you practical joker 363216;1383230168;truffles;nubbins` im trying to get out of mine haha 363217;1383230172;nubbins`;jcpham: imagine my surprise when i learned that the kilogram is defined as "this hunk of metal right here" 363218;1383230182;jcpham;it's a real thing 363219;1383230193;nubbins`;yeah 363220;1383230200;nubbins`;pretty tenuous 363221;1383230209;jcpham;history blows my mind sometimes 363222;1383230215;jcpham;the things we just accept 363223;1383230219;nubbins`;it's amusing that the meter is defined in terms of the distance a beam of light moves in x amount of time 363224;1383230227;nubbins`;and a kilogram is "this thing right here" 363225;1383230243;nubbins`;even more amusing that they literally cannot find a better way to define it 363226;1383230244;jcpham;mhhm 363227;1383230260;truffles;small details nubbins` 363228;1383230293;nubbins`;reminds me of this assisted-suicide case in the UK. the lady spent some time with her family on the day of the event, and one of the last things they did was sing "row, row, row your boat" together 363229;1383230311;nubbins`;i'll invite anyone who remembers to recite the lyrics for us 363230;1383230368;truffles;gentely down the street 363231;1383230376;truffles;merely merely something 363232;1383230428;nubbins`;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Row,_Row,_Row_Your_Boat#Lyrics 363233;1383230442;truffles;but i cant sing 363234;1383230443;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 42 @ 0.00268 = 0.1126 BTC [-] 363235;1383230446;nubbins`;had to pick my jaw up off the floor after reading that part of the article 363236;1383230466;truffles;wow my spelling is turrble 363237;1383230501;nubbins`;could be worse. how's your math? 363238;1383230509;truffles;haha 363239;1383230513;nubbins`;quadratic equation, no cheating, GO! 363240;1383230516;truffles;2 +2 ? 363241;1383230521;truffles;oh that high umm 363242;1383230554;kakobrekla;nubbins`: 17 363243;1383230558;truffles;alternate verses so grim 363244;1383230561;kakobrekla;did i get it right? 363245;1383230566;nubbins`;close enough 363246;1383230594;nubbins`;truffles, a bit less whimsy than the original 363247;1383230617;truffles;didnt even rhyme 363248;1383230626;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.1585 BTC [-] 363249;1383230646;kakobrekla;!t h cfig 363250;1383230646;assbot;[HAVELOCK:CFIG] 1D: 0.15850000 / 0.1585 / 0.15850000 (4 shares, 0.63400000 BTC), 7D: 0.12120000 / 0.1491759 / 0.25000000 (879 shares, 131.12561842 BTC), 30D: 0.07000001 / 0.13809552 / 0.25000000 (1388 shares, 191.67658817 BTC) 363251;1383230657;kakobrekla;whats with this thing anyway 363252;1383230713;kakobrekla;anyone? 363253;1383230725;truffles;i thought u were typing bitch for sec .. 363254;1383230748;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 14 @ 0.00778999 = 0.1091 BTC [-] 363255;1383230749;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 289 @ 0.0054 = 1.5606 BTC [+] 363256;1383230771;kakobrekla;me? im not like dat. 363257;1383230780;truffles;orly 363258;1383230841;kakobrekla;santa doesnt do that 363259;1383230846;truffles;haha 363260;1383230855;truffles;link us some stellar music santa 363261;1383230929;kakobrekla;hm 363262;1383230942;nubbins`;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LflAGUGxd9A 363263;1383230943;ozbot;Melvins Live at Amoeba - YouTube 363264;1383230951;nubbins`;great for halloween 363265;1383230953;bob____;nubbins`: they said they do have a better way. measure the amount of electricity required to move the mass 363266;1383230967;bob____;x amount of electricity = 1 kg 363267;1383230982;kakobrekla;there: http://sfstream1.somafm.com:2020 363268;1383230995;truffles;kako u recall saying my links to i forget name at moment was turble 363269;1383231043;nubbins`;fuck this, i'm plugging this melvins show into the fucking stereo 363270;1383231064;kakobrekla;well thats stellar for you. 363271;1383231067;truffles;why i got to download shit 363272;1383231078;truffles;melvins sounds good 363273;1383231079;truffles;so far 363274;1383231086;nubbins`;they're great 363275;1383231095;nubbins`;they added a second drummer a couple of years ago 363276;1383231141;nubbins`;plus they always get local artists to silkscreen posters wherever they tour, which i think is pretty nice 363277;1383231141;truffles;kako singular vid on utube? 363278;1383231177;kakobrekla;dunno from the top of my head would need to dig in the collection 363279;1383231195;truffles;nubbins` u mean spam? 363280;1383231236;truffles;did not notice the time limit on this 363281;1383231259;nubbins`;? 363282;1383231270;truffles;40mins 363283;1383231277;nubbins`;full show 363284;1383231287;nubbins`;the whole thing is great 363285;1383231290;truffles;how come ive never heard of them 363286;1383231298;nubbins`;not sure 363287;1383231308;nubbins`;i'd heard of them for 15+ years before i bothered to give them a serious listen 363288;1383231358;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.6383 = 1.9149 BTC [+] {3} 363289;1383231359;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.3153 BTC [-] 363290;1383231363;nubbins`;then i wondered why i hadn't bothered to listen to them 15 years ago ;p 363291;1383231419;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 2000 @ 0.00109881 = 2.1976 BTC [+] {3} 363292;1383231557;kakobrekla;i have an annoucment to make, in a couple of hours ill be making an annoucment 363293;1383231560;truffles;song at 7min is pretty good 363294;1383231566;truffles;i guess its instrumental 363295;1383231601;truffles;and im not into instrumentals 363296;1383231630;nubbins`;you'll be into them by the end of this video 363297;1383231663;kakobrekla;bah these labcoin tactics arent working at all 363298;1383231674;kakobrekla;nothing on yahoo finance yet 363299;1383231674;jcpham;labcoin is still a thing? 363300;1383231675;nubbins`;kako, you forgot to tell us where to send our btc 363301;1383231679;jcpham;where is their asic 363302;1383231684;jcpham;kncminer delivered 363303;1383231704;nubbins`;haha, i forgot about the skinny drummer's vocals 363304;1383231705;nubbins`;lel 363305;1383231720;kakobrekla;nubbins` the address is to be annoucned in the annoncment that just got announced 363306;1383231724;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00547754 = 0.5478 BTC [+] {5} 363307;1383231728;nubbins`;o 363308;1383231744;jcpham;what is this shoutcast 363309;1383231749;kakobrekla;anyway, im off to take a walk 363310;1383231751;kakobrekla;later dudes 363311;1383231752;jcpham;i'm in outerspace 363312;1383231755;nubbins`;peace 363313;1383231760;truffles;bye 363314;1383231820;nubbins`;the crowd shots are great 363315;1383231832;nubbins`;mostly just hipsters with dead faces 363316;1383231844;nubbins`;but here and there you see some metalhead that's obviously in complete ecstasy 363317;1383231857;truffles;the drug? 363318;1383231868;nubbins`;the emotional state 363319;1383231874;truffles;not possible 363320;1383231884;nubbins`;turn it up louder 363321;1383231894;truffles;nah¨ 363322;1383231905;truffles;i have perfect hearing 363323;1383231909;nubbins`;heh 363324;1383231922;nubbins`;doesn't matter 363325;1383231957;nubbins`;this is meant to be listened at a volume just a notch or two below "uncomfortably loud" 363326;1383231984;truffles;nah, i tell my partner to turn it down all the time 363327;1383231993;truffles;he's like what i thought u hated rock lol 363328;1383232021;nubbins`;heh 363329;1383232046;nubbins`;my neighbours are coke heads and hookers, i listen to shit as loud as i want :P 363330;1383232068;truffles;loudness isnt the issue, ill go deaf 363331;1383232162;truffles;r u new to this chatroom? 363332;1383232198;truffles;few ppl contribute to the music linkages 363333;1383232221;truffles;i imagine everyone to be coin counters otherwise 363334;1383232234;KRS-;access to the content isnt the problem but figuring out what to listen to is 363335;1383232273;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 95 @ 0.00267 = 0.2537 BTC [-] 363336;1383232282;nubbins`;few months, i guess 363337;1383232298;truffles;krs u have trouble picking? 363338;1383232311;nubbins`;i gave up irc years ago, got sucked back in by some design work back in the summer 363339;1383232316;truffles;gimme a list n i can filter it for u 363340;1383232337;truffles;well at least u chat 363341;1383232339;jcpham;sucked back in. 363342;1383232348;nubbins`;jcpham: *schloop* 363343;1383232351;truffles;its like the perma hangout spot for bitcoiners 363344;1383232359;truffles;that lurk 363345;1383232392;nubbins`;i generally just chat about off-topic bullshit, only occasionally btc-related things 363346;1383232393;jcpham;i think of it more as real time collaboration and messaging software 363347;1383232397;KRS-;ya looking for fresh content..idk what though. 363348;1383232398;jcpham;at it's lowest form 363349;1383232409;nubbins`;occasionally conduct business here 363350;1383232417;truffles;i got booted from the chatty rooms though : ( 363351;1383232428;nubbins`;truffles: song at 16:00 in that video is sick 363352;1383232430;truffles;im bound to piss off some1 363353;1383232431;KRS-;that new song lorde-royals..the singer babe looks like she has a fat face and also vaginal odor. 363354;1383232432;jcpham;collaboration and messaging based on common ideals whether realized or not 363355;1383232455;truffles;collaboration jcpham? 363356;1383232467;truffles;many things seem disjointed 363357;1383232473;jcpham;yes we are all collaborators or co-conspirators 363358;1383232480;jcpham;whether realized or not 363359;1383232485;nubbins`;heh 363360;1383232489;truffles;if u think so 363361;1383232490;nubbins`;^ 363362;1383232513;truffles;maybe im just looking at it too critically 363363;1383232540;jcpham;probably focusing on details and not what the technology enables generally 363364;1383232553;jcpham;the tech enables the spread of ideas 363365;1383232564;truffles;im not sure we're on teh same topic 363366;1383232575;jcpham;i'm usually a few ideas ahead 363367;1383232580;jcpham;i digress 363368;1383232580;truffles;heh 363369;1383232587;truffles;1 sec 363370;1383232627;truffles;got interrupted.. forgot my rant 363371;1383232629;jcpham;freenode is an organization, a disjointed entity of ideas and communication 363372;1383232646;jcpham;powered by realtime messaging and collaboration software 363373;1383232660;jcpham;if exxon wants to collaborate they spend money for software 363374;1383232668;jcpham;same for any group 363375;1383232672;nubbins`;i think calling an irc client collaboration software is a bit of a stretch 363376;1383232677;jcpham;nope 363377;1383232687;jcpham;it is exactly what is 363378;1383232696;truffles;so ambitous and optimistic 363379;1383232698;jcpham;some people do not collaborate 363380;1383232700;nubbins`;well, it doesn't offer any collaboration features beyond messaging itself 363381;1383232707;jcpham;communication 363382;1383232719;jcpham;it is basic yes 363383;1383232725;nubbins`;you might as well call the telephone a collaboration system 363384;1383232730;jcpham;yes 363385;1383232730;nubbins`;or a paper and pen 363386;1383232733;jcpham;yes 363387;1383232741;jcpham;those things are complex 363388;1383232745;nubbins`;actually, a paper and pen is a way better collaboration system than irc 363389;1383232748;jcpham;require much work 363390;1383232765;nubbins`;how about a small table with two chairs? a collaboration system? 363391;1383232774;jcpham;go away 363392;1383232784;nubbins`;you're defining the term into uselessness :P 363393;1383232807;jcpham;irc is collaboration osftware and we are all conspirators 363394;1383232812;jcpham;istand by it 363395;1383232821;truffles;lots of nerds on the internet 363396;1383232826;truffles;i guess they dont all agree 363397;1383232831;nubbins`;ehh, i think we're only diagreeing on semantics 363398;1383232836;KRS-;yeh 363399;1383232841;KRS-;useless 363400;1383233007;truffles;i just cant imagine squatting online n not communicating 363401;1383233022;truffles;i hope lots of private chats go on or some other special rooms 363402;1383233089;nubbins`;most of the day, i have this window minimized 363403;1383233133;truffles;dont mean that ppl have to be glued to the screen.. 363404;1383233250;mod6;im excited to see how 'DarkWallet' turns out 363405;1383233275;mod6;http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/10/31/darkwallet-aims-to-be-the-anarchists-bitcoin-app-of-choice/ 363406;1383233275;ozbot;DarkWallet Aims To Be The Anarchist's Bitcoin App Of Choice - Forbes 363407;1383233275;nubbins`;29:00 in that melvins video i posted 363408;1383233298;truffles;i lost track, had to pause a lot 363409;1383233306;truffles;did not expect to complete it 363410;1383233310;nubbins`;heh 363411;1383233319;truffles;i only like the 1 363412;1383233731;truffles;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qibd5zxIqoo that one 363413;1383233732;ozbot;MELVINS -"DIES IRAEA" - YouTube 363414;1383233859;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.63975 = 2.559 BTC [+] {2} 363415;1383233860;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.00561999 = 0.2248 BTC [+] 363416;1383234183;KRS-;hmm 363417;1383234232;truffles;krs one waiting on that list 363418;1383234240;truffles;today is music day for me 363419;1383234243;KRS-;what kind of music is this 363420;1383234248;KRS-;music day rules. 363421;1383234262;truffles;unlike other ppl i dont listen all day.. 363422;1383234287;KRS-;this was a good movie 363423;1383234301;truffles;that movie u recommended was rly nice 363424;1383234335;truffles;felt some nostalgia even 363425;1383234342;truffles;bet u dont recall what 363426;1383234351;KRS-;been listening to the soundtrack from 'Breaking Bad' lately 363427;1383234364;truffles;just finished off watching the series 363428;1383234375;nubbins`;i've been listening to a lot of talking heads lately 363429;1383234387;nubbins`;that and sufjan stevens 363430;1383234400;truffles;i avoid those talking heads though 363431;1383234403;truffles;what r they about 363432;1383234472;KRS-;like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4a4Tooaaac 363433;1383234519;truffles;omg nooo 363434;1383234528;truffles;what is this 363435;1383234548;ThickAsThieves;i like sufjan 363436;1383234560;ThickAsThieves;Age of Adz on vinyl :) 363437;1383234563;truffles;if u must find some good flowing lyrics geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez 363438;1383234577;nubbins`;i haven't listened to Age of Adz yet! 363439;1383234583;nubbins`;i've got illinois and michigan on vinyl 363440;1383234594;nubbins`;would love to have seven swans on vinyl, but it's never been pressed :( 363441;1383234597;truffles;"if u must" insert comma 363442;1383234602;ThickAsThieves;the newer stuff is much less indie/emo 363443;1383234614;ThickAsThieves;more wacky 363444;1383234616;KRS-;breaking bad was the best TV show I have ever watched in my entire life..(and I'm no youngin') 363445;1383234617;nubbins`;swans is i think ~2001-2002 363446;1383234631;truffles;best? 363447;1383234635;KRS-;THE BEST 363448;1383234636;truffles;its up there sure 363449;1383234638;nubbins`;only discovered it recently 363450;1383234653;truffles;well thats cuz walt was a genius 363451;1383234659;KRS-;I had to wait to watch it on netflix because i can't tolerate commercials. 363452;1383234662;truffles;he always knew all these random things 363453;1383234693;truffles;u must not be american haha 363454;1383234725;kleeck;http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/10/meet-badbios-the-mysterious-mac-and-pc-malware-that-jumps-airgaps/ 363455;1383234727;kleeck;ugh... 363456;1383234742;truffles;house of cards on netflix pretty good 363457;1383234790;kleeck;It's excellent. 363458;1383234793;kleeck;Can't wait for S02 363459;1383234821;truffles;me2 363460;1383234847;truffles;there some other shows i enjoy but i doubt suited to the tastes of this room : d 363461;1383234872;truffles;"He also found that the machine could delete data and undo configuration changes with no prompting." dam 363462;1383234885;kleeck;""We had an air-gapped computer that just had its [firmware] BIOS reflashed, a fresh disk drive installed, and zero data on it, installed from a Windows system CD," Ruiu said. "At one point, we were editing some of the components and our registry editor got disabled. It was like: wait a minute, how can that happen? How can the machine react and attack the software that we're using to attack it? Th 363463;1383234885;kleeck;is is an air-gapped machine and all of the sudden the search function in the registry editor stopped working when we were using it to search for their keys."" 363464;1383234894;kleeck;This is bad. 363465;1383234934;truffles;some genius made that one eh 363466;1383234947;kleeck;Mix this with a BTC Exploit... 363467;1383234962;kleeck;Clean wipe, new OS, EVEN LINUX. 363468;1383235077;kleeck;If interested check out what people are reporting in #badBIOS. Scary shit... 363469;1383235091;kleeck;"I lost another one yesterday confirming that's simply plugging in a USB device from an infected system into a clean one is sufficient to infect. This was on a BSD system, so this is definitely not a Windows issue.- and it's a low level issue, I didn't even mount the volume and it was infected. Could this be an overflow in the way bios ids the drive? " 363470;1383235091;truffles;im not techie 363471;1383235120;nubbins`;""badBIOS," as Ruiu dubbed the malware, has the ability to use high-frequency transmissions passed between computer speakers and microphones to bridge airgaps." 363472;1383235124;nubbins`;:0000000000 363473;1383235130;truffles;whats the source of infection? 363474;1383235143;nubbins`;elves 363475;1383235148;truffles;im not following here, brand new pc? 363476;1383235153;truffles;not possible 363477;1383235332;kleeck;They don't know where it came from, but when you get it, it hangs on... 363478;1383235335;kleeck;Very low level. 363479;1383235339;truffles;"Dragos Ruiu was in his lab when he noticed something highly unusual" 363480;1383235341;truffles;solved 363481;1383235350;kleeck;#labProblems 363482;1383235366;nubbins`;heh 363483;1383235371;nubbins`;kleeck, this is fascinating 363484;1383235383;kleeck;""Really, everything Dragos reports is something that's easily within the capabilities of a lot of people," said Graham, who is CEO of penetration testing firm Errata Security. "I could, if I spent a year, write a BIOS that does everything Dragos said badBIOS is doing. To communicate over ultrahigh frequency sound waves between computers is really, really easy."" 363485;1383235386;kleeck;wut 363486;1383235408;kleeck;I've been in tech all my life, I've never known that communicating over ultrahigh frequency sound waves was really, really easy. 363487;1383235431;kleeck;The implication there is not good at all... 363488;1383235450;nubbins`;mildly surprised that plain old laptop mics and speakers can do it, at least 363489;1383235503;truffles;just contain mr ruiu and virus wont spread anymore.. 363490;1383235511;truffles;he's just plugging his usb everywhere 363491;1383235526;kleeck;Holy shit, Ruiu said he arrived at the theory about badBIOS's high-frequency networking capability after observing encrypted data packets being sent to and from an infected laptop that had no obvious network connection with—but was in close proximity to—another badBIOS-infected computer. The packets were transmitted even when the laptop had its Wi-Fi and Bluetooth cards removed. Ruiu also disc 363492;1383235526;kleeck;onnected the machine's power cord so it ran only on battery to rule out the possibility it was receiving signals over the electrical connection. Even then, forensic tools showed the packets continued to flow over the airgapped machine. Then, when Ruiu removed the internal speaker and microphone connected to the airgapped machine, the packets suddenly stopped. 363493;1383235535;deadweasel;http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/10/meet-badbios-the-mysterious-mac-and-pc-malware-that-jumps-airgaps/ 363494;1383235546;deadweasel;jump the air gap using MICROPHONES AND SPEAKERS... 363495;1383235548;deadweasel;holy shit. 363496;1383235557;truffles;slow pony weasel 363497;1383235563;deadweasel;truffles, eat a dick 363498;1383235567;truffles;: p 363499;1383235575;truffles;i dont like em 363500;1383235582;bob____;it can't infect through speakers 363501;1383235594;bob____;but it can continue to communicate after infected through speakers/mic 363502;1383235607;deadweasel;ah, still reading. 363503;1383235616;bob____;supposedly 363504;1383235635;bob____;none of this has been verified by anyone but this one labrat I believe 363505;1383235666;nubbins`;probably a PR stunt to make the world aware of his epic villain name 363506;1383235689;deadweasel;probably, he didn't figure his USB was infected? 363507;1383235693;truffles;my theory is some1 tagged him in his lab 363508;1383235725;truffles;isnt that where most biological viruses are born 363509;1383235762;bob____;mircea is dubious 363510;1383235764;bob____;http://trilema.com/2013/badbios-aka-badlydonedamagecontrol/ 363511;1383235765;ozbot;#BadBios, aka #BadlyDoneDamageControl pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 363512;1383235777;mircea_popescu;ahhhh 363513;1383235777;deadweasel;thanks bob____ 363514;1383235784;mircea_popescu;Perhaps it was the warm desert wind, or the sound of the ocean, but for the first time in many weeks, I slept. 363515;1383235785;truffles;mp is usually wrong about everything 363516;1383235796;mircea_popescu;However, the dreams returned, but these were clearly not my own. I beheld a vision of a great man, the mage, Tal Rasha. You were there too Tyrael, I remember seeing you in my dream. 363517;1383235803;mircea_popescu;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKigCcGFyBY 363518;1383235803;ozbot;Diablo II Cinematic - Desert Journey - YouTube 363519;1383235863;mircea_popescu;kleeck i suspect dragos ruiu is having a nervous breakdown, honestly. 363520;1383235957;mircea_popescu;jurov yup s.mpoe divs go out today. 363521;1383236115;truffles;good to see u again deadweasel, nice to meet u nubbins` 363522;1383236132;mircea_popescu;http://elitedaily.com/news/world/big-butt-healthy-butt-study-says-women-big-butts-healthier/ 363523;1383236132;ozbot;A Big Butt Is A Healthy Butt: Women With Big Butts Are Smarter And Healthier | Elite Daily 363524;1383236143;mircea_popescu;for whoever had heretical views with regard to box gaps. 363525;1383236156;kleeck;mircea_popescu, I'd much rather believe he is going mad than that badBIOS exists. 363526;1383236200;mircea_popescu;well going mad has this irrecoverable air to it. i'm thinking more in terms of, hasn't slept for 16 days, had a lot of coffee, is seeing things. 363527;1383236240;nubbins`;ehh, madness comes and goes 363528;1383236284;nubbins`;at least he didn't say flies poured out of the usb port after unplugging the stick or something 363529;1383236360;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 200 @ 0.001099 = 0.2198 BTC [+] 363530;1383236386;kleeck;Unfortunately other security experts are confirming that this is all possible... 363531;1383236433;mircea_popescu;it IS all possible 363532;1383236438;mircea_popescu;just getting very unlikely 363533;1383236442;nubbins`;so the idea is that the initial infection, via usb or whatever, sets the groundwork for reinfection via HF audio? 363534;1383236461;deadweasel;nope, just 'repair' 363535;1383236464;deadweasel;active defesnse 363536;1383236478;nubbins`;guy said he flashed his bios and it came back 363537;1383236479;deadweasel;I want verification by a non-crackin' up researcher. 363538;1383236492;deadweasel;he used an infected USB to get it there? 363539;1383236494;KRS-;Mmmm womens butts. 363540;1383236502;deadweasel;big healthy ones? 363541;1383236509;KRS-;Teh bestest. 363542;1383236519;nubbins`;i don't know wtf people are doing putting USBs into airgapped machines anyway 363543;1383236546;kleeck;I think he was testing the transmission from USB 363544;1383236553;mircea_popescu;deadweasel well apparently he had it for 1 yr+ he says 363545;1383236557;nubbins`;i mean in general 363546;1383236582;deadweasel;i'd expect he's been using the same USB, or getting them mixed up, infected, uncleaned. 363547;1383236602;deadweasel;doesn't sound like his opsec is executed well. especially in mania. 363548;1383236636;mircea_popescu;i think he;'s a little manic atm. guy has been involved in the sort of shit all his life 363549;1383236643;mircea_popescu;(he;'s the original; pwn2own organiser) 363550;1383236658;mircea_popescu;and i guess he's ended up in this spot where he's dreaming it. 363551;1383236681;mircea_popescu;(this, of course, if it actually IS him) 363552;1383236806;nubbins`;turns out he's using a pre-infected version of windows he grabbed from the pirate bay 363553;1383236820;mircea_popescu;lol 363554;1383236831;nubbins`;i wonder how many people are holding fat bitcoin wallets on pirated OSes? 363555;1383236864;Namworld;... lol 363556;1383236960;Namworld;"Imma just put these 2000 BTC on this computer with a pirated Windowz because I'm cheap like that. Where would I get that kind of money to get a license anyway?" 363557;1383237010;kakobrekla;like the license does you any good 363558;1383237039;mircea_popescu;contrary to popular belief, most pirate software isn't infected. 363559;1383237055;mircea_popescu;also contrary to older but just as popular belief, girls that enjoy sex aren't usually carrying vd. 363560;1383237075;mircea_popescu;http://scienceblogs.com/bioephemera/wp-content/blogs.dir/263/files/2012/04/i-930092798b2d8d41546c67e9e3555616-cleanVD.gif 363561;1383237092;mircea_popescu;the former is a corporate pr effort. the latter a gov't pr effort. people got interests, yo. 363562;1383237209;Guest20498;/g/sb g end 363563;1383237236;kleeck;wut 363564;1383237402;bob____;and for the record, 67% of statistics are made up 363565;1383237425;bob____;my friend has a pirated addiction (actual friend, not me). and he always ends up infected. 363566;1383237437;bob____;*pirated software 363567;1383237484;bob____;so through the power of empirical evidence, a lot of pirated software is infected 363568;1383237529;kakobrekla;keep an unecrpyted wallet with a some change on your computer for early warning system 363569;1383237548;kakobrekla;on a lappy or so 363570;1383237557;mod6;there's an idea 363571;1383237563;mircea_popescu;yep. 363572;1383237572;mircea_popescu;security isn't about not being stolen from at all. 363573;1383237593;asciilifeform;the 'badbios' discussion is distinctly 'cryptozoological' in flavour. 363574;1383237606;asciilifeform;'nessie really WAS there! but i, um, forgot my camera.' 363575;1383237646;asciilifeform;offered a camera. 'she won't show up on film. magic pixie dust shielding.' 363576;1383237709;bob____;has he started asking for donations yet to support his research? 363577;1383237722;kleeck;http://semiaccurate.com/2013/10/30/tsmc-shows-production-20nm-16nm-dev-wafers/ 363578;1383237723;ozbot;TSMC shows off production 20nm and 16nm dev wafers | SemiAccurate 363579;1383237757;mircea_popescu;bitcoin ipo using stolen material from there in 3, 2... 363580;1383237763;kleeck;:) 363581;1383237785;asciilifeform;bob____: one can get everything needed to verify the claims for < $1k. 363582;1383237958;Ukto;random_cat_: its not that i am not processing things, its that all tickets are being handled in order. and i am trying ot help 2fa resets here in the middle 363583;1383237973;smickles;;;seen usagi 363584;1383237974;gribble;usagi was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 weeks, 1 day, 14 hours, 57 minutes, and 31 seconds ago: <usagi> No, but it will go over 363585;1383237979;smickles;yup 363586;1383238004;topace;SUPERMEGAMININGMEGACORP is pleased to announce our new IPO, to raise $5million dollars to roll out 16nm ASIC MINING in partnership with TSMC. On the 20nm front the wafers are not just in production, there are devices on the market using it that you can buy. No word on the higher performance variants but the SoC process is good to go. 16nm as the label suggests is still in development and that is 363587;1383238055;topace;Please your BTC pre-purchase to 1XSUPERMEGAMININGMEGACORP 363588;1383238099;kakobrekla;says invalid address. 363589;1383238109;mircea_popescu;send it anyway! 363590;1383238128;kakobrekla;button is stuck 363591;1383238130;mircea_popescu;Ukto 2fa resets are the suck 363592;1383238131;kakobrekla;luke, fix it 363593;1383238173;smickles;https://www.bitmit.net/en/item/40934-i-want-to-believe-bumper-sticker 363594;1383238247;Ukto;mircea_popescu: i have something coming up that will solve the issue. 363595;1383238261;bob____;gpg? 363596;1383238269;Ukto;for all users. :P 363597;1383238277;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform bob____ there's such a thing as claim analysis. if you make a claim that has about 10% chances that's a 10% chance. if you make twenty claims each with 10% chances that's 10^-18% 363598;1383238286;Ukto;came to a decision on the change over the last few days 363599;1383238307;smickles;Ukto: sqrl? 363600;1383238319;Ukto;far easier. 363601;1383238326;smickles;easier than sqrl? 363602;1383238329;smickles;no way 363603;1383238331;Ukto;:P 363604;1383238341;Ukto;I'll prolly post about it in the next day 363605;1383238345;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: my problem is less with the (truly) extraordinary claims, but the complete lack of any sign of a desire to share the extraordinary evidence. 363606;1383238355;Ukto;I need a lot less work from things that cost more more than I make. 363607;1383238362;smickles;sqrl is like, click a link /snap a photo == securely logged in 363608;1383238365;Ukto;to focus on launching the big fish 363609;1383238376;Ukto;yes 363610;1383238384;Ukto;once you read teh post you will understand why its so simple 363611;1383238392;Ukto;and btw, long time no see :P 363612;1383238393;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform yeah. i can see that. 363613;1383238398;smickles;o/ 363614;1383238414;Ukto;so quiet in here with btct gone -_- 363615;1383238430;bob____;asciilifeform: agreed. me too. 363616;1383238491;asciilifeform;a logic analyzer isn't a nuke sub, you don't need to 'live the supernode lifestyle' to buy one. 363617;1383238545;asciilifeform;and if you can afford a motorcycle, you can afford an 'ICE.' 363618;1383238560;mircea_popescu;i could see a situation where he doesn't know how to use it and doesn't trust anyone to. this situation, obviously, can't stand as an explanation. 363619;1383238587;asciilifeform;if i found myself in that position, the last thing i'd do is crow to the media. 363620;1383238593;mircea_popescu;exactly. 363621;1383238618;mod6;(09:54) < asciilifeform> a logic analyzer isn't a nuke sub, you don't need to 'live the supernode lifestyle' to buy one. << lol! 363622;1383238622;asciilifeform;the fellow is supposed to be something more than a generic nobody 363623;1383238630;asciilifeform;but a 'respectable' researcher of some stature 363624;1383238631;mircea_popescu;moreover, his various events all relied on relations with people who actually understand compsec. 363625;1383238648;mircea_popescu;i find it very difficult to grasp that ruiu suddenly has nobody to turn to. the REAL ruiu that is. 363626;1383238716;nubbins`;i, for one, welcome this new fake ruiu 363627;1383238736;nubbins`;http://science.slashdot.org/story/13/10/31/1612237/artificial-blood-made-in-romania 363628;1383238737;ozbot;Artificial Blood Made In Romania - Slashdot 363629;1383238743;nubbins`;pretty sure there's a halloween joke in there somewhere 363630;1383238753;mircea_popescu;lol 363631;1383238774;mircea_popescu;Babe-Bolyai University in Cluj-Napoca 363632;1383238778;mircea_popescu;it's Babes! 363633;1383238782;mircea_popescu;;;google victor babes 363634;1383238784;gribble;Victor Babeș - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Babe%C8%99>; Victor Babeş University of Medicine and Pharmacy - Wikipedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Babe%C8%99_University_of_Medicine_and_Pharmacy,_Timi%C8%99oara>; Victor Babes University of Medicine and Pharmacy Timisoara: <http://www.umft.eu/> 363635;1383238792;mircea_popescu;they got the hungarian dood's name right ffs. 363636;1383238814;mircea_popescu;"babe" means hags 363637;1383238818;smickles;oh snap, this site just delivered on zero confirms from a tx that was sent from a client 4 weeks out of sync 363638;1383238838;mircea_popescu;poor them. prolly nice to drop them an email. 363639;1383238859;nubbins`;hags 363640;1383238869;nubbins`;any of you guys heard of the "old hag" lore? 363641;1383238878;smickles;it's great customer service tho :D 363642;1383238887;nubbins`;really big around here 363643;1383238914;mircea_popescu;i heard of the concept ? what you mean ? 363644;1383238922;nubbins`;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_paralysis#Folklore 363645;1383238928;nubbins`;i was just reminded of it when you mentioned hags 363646;1383238942;nubbins`;i did a folklore course (just one!) in university when we discussed this 363647;1383238952;nubbins`;prof says "anyone here been hagged?", 5 hands shoot up 363648;1383238952;mircea_popescu;random_cat_ you should try veal tongue 363649;1383238960;nubbins`;prof asks one of the 5 to explain what a hagging is 363650;1383238971;nubbins`;"now, anyone here been hagged?" 60 hands shoot up 363651;1383238974;mircea_popescu;shagged a jag? 363652;1383238995;mircea_popescu;the rhyming dictionary would kick ass. "hagged = shagged a jag" 363653;1383239020;nubbins`;i think there is a rhyming dictionary 363654;1383239160;mircea_popescu;Scrat: why do they call it world series? only murrica is playing << lol. i once saw briefly on the highway this ad "World Famous X. Best in North Carolina!" 363655;1383239172;mircea_popescu;some eatery or something musta been 363656;1383239238;mircea_popescu;well this log is too much to read. i hope i didn't miss anything good. 363657;1383239260;nubbins`;mostly just a discussion of the melvins 363658;1383239314;Namworld;Here's an interesting spam transaction on Silkroad's seized coins address: https://blockchain.info/tx/0e8a3dfd2f734233dd8fceb82a1c0c3a3af0373101dc8f13cf13fb5ff7786f63 363659;1383239361;nubbins`;hahahahahahahahahaha 363660;1383239368;nubbins`;amazing 363661;1383239368;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 363662;1383239396;Namworld;I've seen worse begging 363663;1383239411;kleeck;Someone give that dude a BJCoin. 363664;1383239416;smickles;shit 363665;1383239427;nubbins`;or at the very least, a masturcoin 363666;1383239431;smickles;total receive at the bj-wanter 363667;1383239436;nubbins`;masturbit? 363668;1383239438;smickles;844 btc 363669;1383239483;kleeck;How cool would it be to have universal prices for sexual favors. No matter the country, one BJCoin would cover it. Oh, colored coins, you cannot come soon enough! 363670;1383239499;mircea_popescu;that's nonsense. 363671;1383239519;kleeck;"Um excuse me, boy! That's a BJcoin, this is going to cost an AnalCoin!" 363672;1383239531;mircea_popescu;if it cost the same in all countries i'd buy a million handpicked chicks and go start a new country where the bj is 10x. 363673;1383239544;kleeck;I'd allow it. 363674;1383239549;mircea_popescu;problem solved. 363675;1383239561;smickles;bj arb 363676;1383239567;kleeck;^ 363677;1383239574;kleeck;The free market always finds a way. 363678;1383239582;mircea_popescu;you know, a year ago when the something awful muppets were all "o no, bitcoins have no value" 363679;1383239593;mircea_popescu;i went "stfu, it's based on blowjobs" 363680;1383239598;mircea_popescu;and they got butthurt and banned me 363681;1383239604;smickles;lol 363682;1383239606;kleeck;lololol 363683;1383239608;smickles;silly goons 363684;1383239613;mircea_popescu;apparently sa people can't stand the idea of working for a living. 363685;1383239613;kleeck;Blowjob backed currency. 363686;1383239625;smickles;mircea_popescu: are you against the goons in eve then? 363687;1383239655;kleeck;"It's backed by the mouths, cocks, and vajayjays of THE PEOPLE you fascist sluts!" 363688;1383239673;mircea_popescu;actually, it's not that they banned me. 363689;1383239674;kleeck;SexCoin 363690;1383239688;mircea_popescu;they made the proposition that the value of something can rest on sexual favours a bannable offence 363691;1383239693;mircea_popescu;then they banned me according to the new regulation. 363692;1383239727;kleeck;When my friends are trolling me they call Bitcoin "CrimeCoin" and it's usually after something like the Trendon Shavers arrest, or Silkroad bust. 363693;1383239744;kleeck;"Hey man, sorry about your CrimeCoin tanking. Tough luck." 363694;1383239760;smickles;;;ticker 363695;1383239761;gribble;MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 210.10579, Best ask: 212.00000, Bid-ask spread: 1.89421, Last trade: 210.08073, 24 hour volume: 7707.41836602, 24 hour low: 204.00000, 24 hour high: 214.47587, 24 hour vwap: 208.55587 363696;1383239769;kleeck;lol 363697;1383239774;kleeck;It's not tanking now, smickles. 363698;1383239776;kleeck;breathe easy. 363699;1383239795;smickles;i usually make a profit when it tanks 363700;1383239801;nubbins`;i mentioned to a friend a few months ago that i made a bunch of money buying and selling btc-denominated securities. a couple of days later, he says "did you ever make any more money with that scam after?" 363701;1383239843;mircea_popescu;lol 363702;1383239864;nubbins`;rather than explain, i just said "yes" 363703;1383239876;mircea_popescu;as far as government employees, people on the government dole and unemployable youths are concerned, 363704;1383239886;mircea_popescu;this entire "not done by govt = scam" angle won't be hard to push 363705;1383239949;nubbins`;y'know, you could draw a venn diagram with those 3 groups and have a sizable common area in the middle 363706;1383239966;mircea_popescu;ya think ? 363707;1383240087;nubbins`;27ZXLq4 363708;1383240089;ll;;;genrate 40000 363709;1383240090;nubbins`;i mean 363710;1383240091;gribble;The expected generation output, at 40000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 390928787.638, is 0.0514576088877 BTC per day and 0.00214406703699 BTC per hour. 363711;1383240094;nubbins`;http://imgur.com/27ZXLq4 363712;1383240094;ozbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 363713;1383240108;nubbins`;a bit cheeky, maybe, but you get the idea 363714;1383240143;mircea_popescu;"unemployable youths"! don't mix my cocksuckers into your ven voodoo 363715;1383240156;nubbins`;the area where all 3 interesect is called "paid work terms" 363716;1383240167;ll;;;genrate 400000 363717;1383240169;gribble;The expected generation output, at 400000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 390928787.638, is 0.514576088877 BTC per day and 0.0214406703699 BTC per hour. 363718;1383240186;nubbins`;consider the diagram suitably amended 363719;1383240207;mircea_popescu;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=321265.msg3450930#msg3450930 363720;1383240209;ozbot;Bitcoin TOP-500 Richest 363721;1383240222;nubbins`;heh, saw that 363722;1383240228;nubbins`;i think the take-away is that mp == goat 363723;1383240236;mircea_popescu;it's funny tho, because she has a point. 363724;1383240246;mircea_popescu;every summer to date there was a hot company that passed s.mpoe 363725;1383240252;mircea_popescu;by autumn it was done 363726;1383240262;mircea_popescu;basically, a bunch of btc finance is powered by summer vacation. 363727;1383240291;mircea_popescu;kids get all excited in may, invest their allowance, dream about how they'll be rich "in the future" = next week, and how they'll start a family with beck tatcher down the aisle 363728;1383240294;mircea_popescu;also next week. 363729;1383240313;mircea_popescu;then school starts, another year of toil, summer dreams and hopes dashed on the jagged shore of reality 363730;1383240315;mircea_popescu;and so it goes. 363731;1383240321;mircea_popescu;i wonder what 2014's mayfly will be. 363732;1383240374;nubbins`;i've got a reasonable guess 363733;1383240401;nubbins`;http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/medical-marijuana-spinoff-firms-look-to-cash-in-on-new-rules-1.2125330 363734;1383240405;ozbot;Medical marijuana spinoff firms look to cash in on new rules - Canada - CBC News 363735;1383240651;nubbins`;450,000 med pot users in canada by 2024. that's billions in revenue every year even at bargain-basement prices 363736;1383240714;mircea_popescu;baby, if it's legal it won't be 1/4 mn. 363737;1383240729;mircea_popescu;it will be 5mn or some shit. ppl will move to canada just for this. 363738;1383240741;mircea_popescu;they don't have a job anyway, might as well live somwehre da police ain't husslin them for pot. 363739;1383240787;bob____;summer in the northern hemisphere or southern? 363740;1383240797;nubbins`;of course, whenever full legalization comes around, there will already be a massive, massive legal growing industry already in place 363741;1383240808;nubbins`;interesting times ahead 363742;1383240852;KRS-;omg smoking cigarettes while on blood pressure meds is giving me a helluva buzz..this should be illegal =D 363743;1383240879;nubbins`;unauthorized mental state 363744;1383240892;KRS-;right 363745;1383240894;nubbins`;try taking altitude-sickness drugs and having a beer. 363746;1383240901;nubbins`;0/10, would not do again 363747;1383240906;KRS-;haha ok when i get bored and im out of drugs i will 363748;1383240947;nubbins`;"why are my hands vibrating?" followed by "and my arms", followed a few minutes later by "oh fuck now it's in my face, i need to lie down" 363749;1383240963;KRS-;HAHA sounds like fun 363750;1383240990;nubbins`;they really weren't joking with the "do not take with alcohol" sticker on the bottle 363751;1383241011;mircea_popescu;i never take shit you can't take with alcohol. 363752;1383241017;mircea_popescu;fucking poisonous 363753;1383241098;nubbins`;;;ud blow stamps 363754;1383241099;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=blow+stamps | low Stamp noun. /blō•stamp/ 1. A LEET-ish speak word for 'bitcoin' accidentally coined by a 94-year-old grandmother on October 29, 2013. 363755;1383241100;ozbot;Urban Dictionary: blow stamps 363756;1383241146;nubbins`;^ some kid on reddit who bought his grandma some btc a few years ago 363757;1383241151;nubbins`;"how are my blow stamps doing?" 363758;1383241152;nubbins`;lel 363759;1383241156;mircea_popescu;how is this in the ud 363760;1383241168;nubbins`;the free piece of shit dictionary that anyone can edit 363761;1383241199;mircea_popescu;o o i c :d 363762;1383241413;Namworld;[13:34] <nubbins`> unauthorized mental state 363763;1383241435;Namworld;You dislike the government. That's an unauthorized mental state that leads to chaos. stop right this instant lest you want to be corrected with these correctional instruments. 363764;1383241446;smickles;^gold 363765;1383241481;nubbins`;rhetoric aside, that's exactly what it is 363766;1383241514;nubbins`;it's even more bizarre when you consider that there's a legal medical marijuana industry in canada 363767;1383241526;nubbins`;"this is okay for sick people to smoke, but if healthy people smoke it, terrible things will happen" 363768;1383241558;nubbins`;glossing over the fact that the majority of adult canadians have, at some point in their lives, smoked pot 363769;1383241771;nubbins`;there's a guy here in my town that runs a massive hydroponic lettuce operation, i wonder if he's been eyeing these new regulations 363770;1383241792;smickles;sounds like an easy transition 363771;1383241832;nubbins`;well, yes. smart guy, he rented out part of his building to a laundromat and captures their waste heat to keep the grow areas warm 363772;1383241858;smickles;damn 363773;1383241859;Namworld;genius 363774;1383242216;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 676 @ 0.00108245 = 0.7317 BTC [-] {5} 363775;1383242240;mircea_popescu;if i were the laundromat i'd sue. 363776;1383242253;mircea_popescu;he can settle out of court and that way i don't have to go through discovery. 363777;1383242309;nubbins`;sue on what grounds 363778;1383242356;mircea_popescu;unjust enrichment. 363779;1383242372;nubbins`;shrug, pretty sure they came to a mutual agreement 363780;1383242393;mircea_popescu;or that. 363781;1383242826;assbot;[MPEX] [O] [O.USD.P200T] 180 @ 0.55541669 = 99.975 BTC [+] 363782;1383242924;mircea_popescu;100 on red! 363783;1383243033;smickles;$avg 363784;1383243034;mpexbot;smickles: 199.80 363785;1383243039;bob____;insane 363786;1383243044;bob____;break-even is what, 90? 363787;1383243123;mircea_popescu;;;calc 200 / 1.555 363788;1383243124;gribble;128.617363344 363789;1383243143;mircea_popescu;breakeven is around what it was a month ago 363790;1383243253;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] [PAID] 130.69702147 BTC to 500`000`000 shares, 26 satoshi per share 363791;1383243262;mircea_popescu;did i fuck it up again ? 363792;1383243374;bob____;someday i will internalize how that works. so on excercise he will pay 1btc and get strike/spot. 363793;1383243457;dexX7;do you adjust option prices frequently? 363794;1383243552;bob____;dexX7: yeah, the market maker bot moves the price often 363795;1383243667;dexX7;ah, how are prices determined? 363796;1383245048;jurov;$t m s.mpoe 363797;1383245059;jurov;!t m s.mpoe 363798;1383245059;assbot;[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.0008131 / 0.00081904 / 0.00082371 (81952 shares, 67.12 BTC), 7D: 0.00080585 / 0.00081779 / 0.00082379 (125880 shares, 102.94 BTC), 30D: 0.00080585 / 0.00085106 / 0.00094023 (1875046 shares, 1,595.78 BTC) 363799;1383245075;jurov;!t m s.bbet 363800;1383245076;assbot;[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.00046 / 0.00046737 / 0.0005 (1805 shares, 0.84 BTC), 7D: 0.00046 / 0.00068456 / 0.00071 (21805 shares, 14.93 BTC), 30D: 0.00046 / 0.00064054 / 0.00071 (30105 shares, 19.28 BTC) 363801;1383245134;ll;;;diff 363802;1383245135;gribble;3.9092878763808584E8 363803;1383245142;ll;;;next 363804;1383245142;gribble;See latest update from Onefixt here: https://twitter.com/BitcoinOracle/ 363805;1383245222;ll;;;bcstats 363806;1383245226;gribble;Current Blocks: 267143 | Current Difficulty: 3.9092878763808584E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 268127 | Next Difficulty In: 984 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 4 days, 15 hours, 23 minutes, and 46 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 494972701.994 | Estimated Percent Change: 26.61454 363807;1383245389;KRS-;Hi =D 363808;1383245545;mircea_popescu;http://static3.demotix.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/a_scale_large/2100-6/photos/1372043247-femen-group-hold-protest-rio-de-janeiro-against-sex-tourism_2187786.jpg 363809;1383245856;mircea_popescu;http://www.malaysia-chronicle.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=54411:we-want-answers-why-were-msian-students-forced-into-sex-work-in-australia 363810;1383245858;ozbot;WE WANT ANSWERS Why were M'sian students forced into sex work in Australia? 363811;1383246242;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 31 @ 0.005699 = 0.1767 BTC [+] 363812;1383246486;kleeck;Anyone here know what a ball park for how many chips to expect in a "Test batch"? 363813;1383246492;dexX7;3 363814;1383246498;dexX7;max 4 :p 363815;1383246500;kleeck;Anyone else... 363816;1383246504;kleeck;:P 363817;1383246505;dexX7;haha 363818;1383246519;kleeck;Is it in the hundreds? thousands? 363819;1383246522;kleeck;I just don't know. 363820;1383246530;mircea_popescu;kleeck whose test batch ? 363821;1383246536;kleeck;In general. 363822;1383246543;mircea_popescu;there is no in general eh ? 363823;1383246559;kleeck;So it varies based on fab? 363824;1383246560;mircea_popescu;one wafer is usually a reasonable way to go about test chips, but depends how many chips you cut to the wafer. 363825;1383246570;kleeck;Gotcha 363826;1383246573;mircea_popescu;well yes, it varies on the chip, tyhe fab, who's doing it etc. 363827;1383246585;kleeck;wafer is a good point. 363828;1383246653;mircea_popescu;yes, as a rule of tumb. but maybe you tacked your test run into an incomplete other wafer. 363829;1383246675;mircea_popescu;people do this all the time. whether they be students getting a freebie or a corp dept piggubacking on another's job. 363830;1383246690;kleeck;I see. 363831;1383246691;mircea_popescu;you could also be big enough to cut 12 test wafers cause you need a lot of tests. 363832;1383246702;kleeck;So is this normally negotiated with the fab? 363833;1383246718;mircea_popescu;it's just a term with no direct meaning. depends what whoever said it meant. 363834;1383246726;mircea_popescu;like "pretty" 363835;1383246731;kleeck;Heh. 363836;1383246744;kleeck;Gotcha. That gives me some clarity. 363837;1383247344;jurov;http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/10/meet-badbios-the-mysterious-mac-and-pc-malware-that-jumps-airgaps/ omfg so it uses ultrasound now? 363838;1383247403;kleeck;Hah. You missed our talk about #badBios earlier, Jurov. I too was lamenting it's beauty. 363839;1383247439;mircea_popescu;jurov it also uses our collective sisters to spread by now. 363840;1383247497;jcpham;the only way to stop it is toput duct tape over your speakers 363841;1383247498;deadweasel;'Our Collective Sisters' sounds like an Emo band. 363842;1383247520;mircea_popescu;actually it does huh. 363843;1383247647;deadweasel;it's a little too incestual for me tho.. 363844;1383247668;deadweasel;sounds like we're sharing our sisters, which I would never do. SHE'S ALL MINE.... 363845;1383247671;deadweasel;oops, wait.. 363846;1383247706;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 26 @ 0.0056979 = 0.1481 BTC [-] 363847;1383247830;mircea_popescu;lol 363848;1383247836;mircea_popescu;i'd share your sister 363849;1383247839;mircea_popescu;with all my friends. 363850;1383247914;deadweasel;You would, she's fine. But she'll kick your ass if you disrespect her. I taught her well. 363851;1383247960;deadweasel;i'm not sure if gang-bangs fall under the heading of 'dis-respect' for her, but I would guess so. 363852;1383248035;kleeck;pics deadweasel. 363853;1383248083;kleeck;now pics 363854;1383248085;kleeck;pics, do it 363855;1383248087;kleeck;post them 363856;1383248087;kleeck;now 363857;1383248089;kleeck;do it 363858;1383248133;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1204 @ 0.00109547 = 1.3189 BTC [+] {4} 363859;1383248145;kleeck;Well, well, well. It wasn't India after all: http://www.csiro.au/Portals/Media/Bats-confirmed-as-SARS-origin.aspx 363860;1383248168;pankkake;+1 for pics 363861;1383248173;kleeck;oh yea. 363862;1383248174;kleeck;sorry. 363863;1383248179;kleeck;was distracted by science. 363864;1383248185;kleeck;PICS deadweasel ! 363865;1383248187;kleeck;NOW 363866;1383248189;kleeck;DO IT 363867;1383248192;kleeck;Don't delay. 363868;1383248211;mircea_popescu;lmao 363869;1383248212;pankkake;unless she's too old 363870;1383248225;kleeck;Yeah. if she's old photoshop the wrinkles out first. 363871;1383248229;kleeck;Then post it. 363872;1383248231;kleeck;DO IT 363873;1383248232;kleeck;now. 363874;1383248235;kleeck;Show us 363875;1383248462;jcpham;boobs! 363876;1383248494;jcpham;boobs out, shoe on head or didn't happen 363877;1383248577;kleeck;faggets? 363878;1383248580;kleeck;uh-oh 363879;1383248590;kleeck;assets is turning into 4-chan... ITS HAPPENING 363880;1383248812;deadweasel;Boy, I'm glad I returned... 363881;1383248814;deadweasel;here come pics 363882;1383248816;deadweasel;http://www.goatse.fr/# 363883;1383248817;ozbot;Eh 363884;1383248827;deadweasel;ok, i'm off the clock, enjoy! 363885;1383248853;pankkake;but not off the cock 363886;1383249090;Namworld;I'm dizzy... 363887;1383249109;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.64 BTC [+] 363888;1383249143;Namworld;I hope they get one of those needless blood sugar tester out there and working for an affordable price. 363889;1383249184;mircea_popescu;what are they now, 5 btc ? 363890;1383249225;Namworld;Actually they're probably available and cheap now. 363891;1383249238;Namworld;Not that I require one, but it would be nice. 363892;1383249552;KRS-;should be free 363893;1383249553;Namworld;Looks like it's still not available 363894;1383249621;Namworld;Since I'm in Canada, it probably is for people that requires it. No clue. 363895;1383249716;nubbins`;how do you test your blood w/o a needle? 363896;1383249746;Namworld;Some companies are getting close apparently. It's getting more accurate. 363897;1383249776;jurov;bah, just taste it how sweet it is 363898;1383249785;Namworld;Through light or something, and infering glucose content from that. I forgot how they do it. 363899;1383249833;jurov;they measure refractive index 363900;1383249841;nubbins`;ah 363901;1383249854;nubbins`;like you just point it at your skin? 363902;1383249858;nubbins`;still confused 363903;1383249889;jurov;dunno how the needleless ones work 363904;1383249916;Namworld;No idea, there's no such device out yet. 363905;1383249955;mircea_popescu;jurov i was gonna say, "just have your gf taste your pee" 363906;1383249958;mircea_popescu;but then i abstained. 363907;1383250004;mircea_popescu;meanwhile back at the fde camp, 363908;1383250004;mircea_popescu;http://www.h-online.com/security/features/Enclosed-but-not-encrypted-746199.html 363909;1383250006;ozbot;Enclosed, but not encrypted - The H Security: News and Features 363910;1383250141;jurov;so what,one has to diy everything... that reminds me i should find or made myself a fkn serial cable soon 363911;1383250167;mircea_popescu;jurov well... NSA! 363912;1383250170;jurov;at least i *hope* serial controller can't be reprogrammed via bios 363913;1383250203;jurov;...er...i mean bios via rs232 363914;1383250204;asciilifeform;jurov: solution: not necessarily DIY, but to use a system that can at least be verified to 'do what it says on the box' 363915;1383250357;mircea_popescu;http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/steal_this_comic.png 363916;1383250512;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 30 @ 0.00615033 = 0.1845 BTC [-] {3} 363917;1383250515;pankkake;http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Fag_6b8dd2_69562.gif 363918;1383250573;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.32000001 BTC [+] 363919;1383250634;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.1425 BTC [-] 363920;1383250668;pankkake;http://techfleece.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/piracy-vs-official-movies.jpg 363921;1383250756;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 58 @ 0.00516912 = 0.2998 BTC [-] {5} 363922;1383250768;pankkake;my favorite is defitively the fag buys music. buying digital stuff, worse, drmed stuff, should be subject to public humilation 363923;1383250812;mircea_popescu;buying drm stuff indeed. 363924;1383250818;mircea_popescu;like, you know, ipads. 363925;1383250885;pankkake;or kindles that have the wonderful feature of remote deletion of books 363926;1383250921;bob____;i feel sad for that 0.1425 btc that just went to CFIG, never to be seen again. 363927;1383250980;ThickAsThieves;is CFIG a scam now too? 363928;1383251015;pankkake;I wonder why 100 BTC of it was bought last week 363929;1383251063;bob____;the panamian bank that wants to raise a shit ton of money with not much of a plan what to do with it? seems like it to me. 363930;1383251065;mircea_popescu;which one is cfig ? 363931;1383251094;pankkake;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=269191.0 363932;1383251096;ozbot;[HAVELOCK] Crypto Currency (CFIG) Official Thread 363933;1383251191;mircea_popescu;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=141589 363934;1383251193;ozbot;View the profile of Crypto Financial 363935;1383251199;mircea_popescu;july 2013 anon forum member starts a bank 363936;1383251201;mircea_popescu;a well./ 363937;1383251342;pankkake;"Members of this company are currently board members in a Medium size bank in Panama." (well, it might be false) 363938;1383251393;mircea_popescu;this vagueness has never went over well. 363939;1383251424;pankkake;latest news was "Crypto Financial (CFIG) is pleased to announce that we will begin to accept applications for our Fiduciary Financial Services and Trading Platform during the month of November, 2013." 363940;1383251453;bob____;to stockholders only though. buy your shares quick! 363941;1383251555;bob____;so, to be clear, the fact that they are accepting applications means they have *already* cleared all the regulatory hurdles they said they need to start this real, offical bank. What's the name of that bank again? I suppose I should be able to look it up if its real and regestered and everything. 363942;1383251671;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 691 @ 0.00538615 = 3.7218 BTC [-] {17} 363943;1383251684;bob____;hmm, but i guess development still needs a few months. 363944;1383251685;bob____;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=269191.msg3344439#msg3344439 363945;1383251687;ozbot;[HAVELOCK] Crypto Currency (CFIG) Official Thread 363946;1383251689;bob____;but apply now! 363947;1383251793;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 50 @ 0.00775 = 0.3875 BTC [+] 363948;1383251925;ThickAsThieves;Announcing G.ASICMINER, AM100, and TAT.ASICMINER temporary conversion services: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg3452278#msg3452278 363949;1383251974;pankkake;G.ASICMINER to AM100. clever :p 363950;1383251993;ThickAsThieves;and AM100 to direct (for a fee) 363951;1383252019;pankkake;oh, that one is nice 363952;1383252046;bob____;examples are a tad confusing though. if i have 1000 AM100 shares i can't send 1050 to you :) 363953;1383252073;ThickAsThieves;hehe 363954;1383252074;ThickAsThieves;indeed 363955;1383252096;ThickAsThieves;i knew there would be some things i couldnt just say quickly 363956;1383252111;ThickAsThieves;but hopefully anyone interested can sort it all out 363957;1383252116;bob____;yeah 363958;1383252161;nubbins`;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=269191.msg2940289#msg2940289 363959;1383252163;ozbot;[HAVELOCK] Crypto Currency (CFIG) Official Thread 363960;1383252166;nubbins`;re: cfig 363961;1383252202;nubbins`;the hilarity of this is that Virtex now offers this exact service 363962;1383252220;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.60827151 = 6.0827 BTC [-] {6} 363963;1383252228;nubbins`;but with CAD instead of USD 363964;1383252267;nubbins`;and, y'know. virtex is real. 363965;1383252282;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 15 @ 0.6012 = 9.018 BTC [-] {2} 363966;1383252579;topace;nubbins`: what service ? 363967;1383252586;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 100 @ 0.00775 = 0.775 BTC [+] 363968;1383252590;topace;the bank card ? 363969;1383252596;nubbins`;yeah 363970;1383252599;topace;ah 363971;1383252622;topace;but its onyl CAD, though i suppose it would work outside canada as long as its on the "interac" network 363972;1383252637;topace;and the card is only availbale to canadians 363973;1383252647;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 944 @ 0.00020959 = 0.1979 BTC [+] {2} 363974;1383252648;nubbins`;too true, what's the international one? PLUS network or something 363975;1383252685;topace;i could have done a creditcard for canadianbitcoins 12 months ago 363976;1383252690;topace;still could now if i wanted to 363977;1383252692;topace;but i decided against it 363978;1383252694;topace;becuase the fee's sucked 363979;1383252712;topace;$6 load fee, $3/month fee, $1.50 usage fee, $2.00 cash withdrawal fee, etc 363980;1383252719;topace;prepaid creditcard that is 363981;1383252726;topace;i have a pile of them sitting on my desk still 363982;1383252739;nubbins`;$$$$$ 363983;1383252744;topace;they get ya on the fee's 363984;1383252749;topace;and i didnt want my customers getting raped up the ass 363985;1383252753;topace;so i decided not to do it 363986;1383252769;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 150 @ 0.00073649 = 0.1105 BTC [+] {3} 363987;1383252771;nubbins`;yeah, if you're gonna just replicate the bank setup but with BTC backing it, what's the point, right? 363988;1383252845;nubbins`;virtex debit is a bit lighter on fees, but still to steep for me to bother signing up 363989;1383252861;mircea_popescu;<ThickAsThieves> i knew there would be some things i couldnt just say quickly << maybe offer a cash settlement ? 363990;1383252865;mircea_popescu;strictly as a convenience so people d on 363991;1383252866;nubbins`;i think the real draw is that it's more convenient than direct deposit for withdrawing your funds 363992;1383252871;mircea_popescu;'rt end up with fractionaries in 50 symbols. 363993;1383252879;mircea_popescu;the last 50 can be turned to 0.3btc or w/e. 363994;1383252905;ThickAsThieves;the problem is the price is pretty damn volatile right now 363995;1383252931;mircea_popescu;well it being a courtesy service, you take a safe margin i guess. 363996;1383252959;ThickAsThieves;maybe, i'm just testing this out for now 363997;1383252977;ThickAsThieves;already a lot to it and going in 363998;1383252978;ThickAsThieves;on 363999;1383253008;ThickAsThieves;i know people have wanted both services for a while 364000;1383253076;ThickAsThieves;any service i could offer to buy back odd amounts would surely net the holder less than selling em at market 364001;1383253101;mircea_popescu;a, i thought the mkt was closed on that particular symbol. nm. 364002;1383253141;ThickAsThieves;for some people (US) it will be closed tomorrow 364003;1383253159;ThickAsThieves;I have been selling some people's shares for them, whom didnt want to migrate anywhere 364004;1383253167;ThickAsThieves;as unofficial service of sorts 364005;1383253358;Ademan;ThickAsThieves: what will be closed tomorrow? 364006;1383253461;Ademan;oh, btct.co? I thought you meant something would be closed to US customers tomorrow 364007;1383253525;pankkake;bitfunder is closed to US on November 1st 364008;1383253531;ThickAsThieves;BTCT.co is closing and Bitfunder will disallow selling from US accounts 364009;1383253549;ThickAsThieves;Us users can still have accounts on BF til Dec 2nd 364010;1383253556;ThickAsThieves;to collect divs or such 364011;1383253595;Ademan;Ah, as long as we're not talking about havelock (yet :-( ) 364012;1383253650;pankkake;we'll see! http://bitbet.us/bet/552/havelock-will-announce-us-restrictions-by-guy-fawkes/ 364013;1383253741;Ademan;how do they determine who's in the US anyways? Is it just by access location? 364014;1383253804;Ademan;Also a surprising amount of no bets, although Nov 5 is a pretty short timeframe 364015;1383253851;Ademan;ThickAsThieves: You manage AM1 on Havelock as well right? Will you be doing PT conversions if that were to happen? 364016;1383253863;Ademan;er sorry, direct conversions 364017;1383253906;ThickAsThieves;AM1 already allows it 364018;1383253944;ThickAsThieves;and i get fresk copies of the shareholder list twice per day 364019;1383253948;ThickAsThieves;fresh* 364020;1383254033;Ademan;I guess I'd have to just dump all of my AM100 in that case though huh? 364021;1383254059;Ademan;that'll be a great day for international investors at the expense of US ones... 364022;1383254252;ThickAsThieves;well if you choose the specific scenario where you might lose something in some possible future, well, you always lose, no? 364023;1383254287;ThickAsThieves;the odds are that given the avenue, things will get sorted 364024;1383255411;Ademan;Are you interested at all in colored coins? 364025;1383255558;dexX7;mastercoin seems to push it forward constantly with new contests and rewards 364026;1383255671;Ademan;I want it to work cause I'd love to avoid future exchange closures 364027;1383255720;pankkake;I fail to see how that solves the exchange issues, it looks like just a fancy way of having direct shares 364028;1383255731;Ademan;I was about to say heh 364029;1383255780;dexX7;mastercoin has an orderbook based on tx 364030;1383255781;Ademan;On the other hand, if an exchange closes where you bought a colored coin based share, you don't have to liquidate it or worry 364031;1383255794;Ademan;dexX7: ah awesome, I actually didn't know that 364032;1383255820;mircea_popescu;Ademan you are aware mpex is the oldest right ? 364033;1383255844;dexX7;but the concept seems so... wrong :D they use additional outputs to encode data in form of btc addresses, all linked to the exodus address 364034;1383255857;dub;-assets don't like no colored nuthin boa 364035;1383255862;dexX7;mp, you should send burnside flowers :p 364036;1383255866;pankkake;so you'd have to pay a fee to put an order or cancel one, and wait for it to be included in a block? 364037;1383255867;dub;aint yall read mp's blog 364038;1383255935;pankkake;sending and trading colored coins on an exchange would make sense. you could get them out when you don't want to trade 364039;1383255942;dexX7;even 2-3x fees. one tx goes to the exodus address to "register" your action, the other one goes into the void and encodes the data and the third one may be used as actual value tranasfer 364040;1383255948;mircea_popescu;dub you were the source of much bitctointalk confusion btw. 364041;1383255957;dub;orly? 364042;1383255970;mircea_popescu;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=321265.msg3451405#msg3451405 364043;1383255972;ozbot;Bitcoin TOP-500 Richest 364044;1383256277;Ademan;mircea_popescu: I wasn't but why do you mention it? Cause you haven't closed? 364045;1383256283;dub;interdasting 364046;1383256372;mircea_popescu;Ademan to help you get some proportion. born a week before bitcoinica. 364047;1383256786;Namworld;It's been one heck of a trip. Mircea now uses BTC as TP. 364048;1383256809;Namworld;Sure seems like action is missing on MPEx lately tho 364049;1383256838;mircea_popescu;quite literally, this week. 364050;1383256922;Namworld;2`618.12178487 BTC 30 day volume, what the hell is that? 364051;1383256953;Apocalyptic;no fake volume bot there 364052;1383256965;Namworld;87.27072616 BTC average daily. Unheard of. 364053;1383257011;Ademan;how does one use BTC as TP? Do you have to make paper wallets first? 364054;1383257013;mircea_popescu;yeah. 364055;1383257048;assnet;the first naturally colored coins 364056;1383257059;mircea_popescu;lol 364057;1383257066;Namworld;You print a roll with a QR code on each sheet that allows redeeming Bitcoins and use that. 364058;1383257078;Namworld;Not the QR code, the paper 364059;1383257098;mircea_popescu;!jd 364060;1383257098;assbot;Just-Dice stat: 6625 BTC profit, 61.3k BTC invested, 218.32 mio bets, 4.31 mio BTC wagered 364061;1383257110;mircea_popescu;i suppose all teh investors are thar. 364062;1383257136;Namworld;Fuck, probably. With S.DICE gone. 364063;1383257191;Ademan;crap 6625BTC profit?! Who the hell is wasting their coins gambling?! (brb buying some securities) 364064;1383257233;Namworld;They were at -10000 at some point I think or close to that 364065;1383257244;Namworld;SD made over 10x that already 364066;1383257260;mircea_popescu;they had ups and downs 364067;1383257262;Namworld;I think they were around 70000 profit when they sold 364068;1383257293;pankkake;I think it went down to -4000, maybe more 364069;1383257314;pankkake;(just dice) 364070;1383257332;Namworld;Comparatively, Coinroll made 1000 BTC profit and less than 120'000 BTC wagered. Which is actually under the house 1% margin. 364071;1383257333;mircea_popescu;heh. mpoe was iirc -10k or some shit at some point 364072;1383257342;mircea_popescu;and for that matter the book carried 1mn btc implied at some point. 364073;1383257345;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3050 @ 0.00082487 = 2.5159 BTC [+] 364074;1383257349;Namworld;JD would be ~40000 BTC profit if they were close to house margin 364075;1383257352;mircea_popescu;apparently bitcoin is very ups and downs sort of tyhing 364076;1383257392;Namworld;Coinroll has public dumps of the DB 364077;1383257539;mircea_popescu;well ima go take the local crazy bitchez for a halloween walk through the fog. 364078;1383257546;mircea_popescu;later all. 364079;1383257555;Namworld;Sounds nice 364080;1383257561;Namworld;Later 364081;1383257649;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 18 @ 0.00562337 = 0.1012 BTC [+] {10} 364082;1383257710;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.00568889 = 0.1422 BTC [+] {13} 364083;1383257771;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 46 @ 0.0056889 = 0.2617 BTC [+] {8} 364084;1383257832;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.00568889 = 0.1422 BTC [-] {3} 364085;1383258252;mjr_;hello all 364086;1383258263;mjr_;anyone still around? 364087;1383258307;kakobrekla;sup panaman! 364088;1383259102;mjr_;what up 364089;1383259106;mjr_;i had an idea... 364090;1383259111;mjr_;its kinda crazy i think 364091;1383259119;mjr_;but would make an interesting experiment 364092;1383259453;jurov;mjr_ yes? 364093;1383259646;Namworld;We are waiting... 364094;1383259906;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 629 @ 0.00050048 = 0.3148 BTC [-] {3} 364095;1383260008;pankkake;that was the experiment 364096;1383260732;jurov;no, nsa intercepted his communication and then him in person 364097;1383261004;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 178 @ 0.00082487 = 0.1468 BTC [+] 364098;1383261065;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6150 @ 0.00082526 = 5.0753 BTC [+] 364099;1383261316;ThickAsThieves;http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-24767239 364100;1383261317;ozbot;BBC News - RBS traders suspended in forex probe 364101;1383261627;dexX7;meni rosenfeld. is this guy useful? 364102;1383261827;kakobrekla;dexX7, grep for 'meni' http://trilema.com/2012/the-bitcoin-drama-timeline/ 364103;1383261992;dexX7;thanks 364104;1383262073;Ademan;does the operator of havelock ever come in here? 364105;1383262088;kakobrekla;;;seen topace 364106;1383262089;gribble;topace was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 hours, 35 minutes, and 34 seconds ago: <topace> so i decided not to do it 364107;1383262093;kakobrekla;2 hrs ago. 364108;1383262102;kakobrekla;but he decided not to do it! 364109;1383262112;Namworld;He used to be around more often... Still around but not talking as much. 364110;1383262116;dexX7;there is also #havelockinvestments 364111;1383262199;Ademan;ah, I was wondering what was up with the outtage ~16 hours ago 364112;1383262512;jurov;it's that rat around asset exchanges, chewing cables 364113;1383262528;jurov;and peeing over harddrives 364114;1383262575;Namworld;Those darn bitrats 364115;1383262590;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61 BTC [+] 364116;1383262651;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.60125 BTC [-] 364117;1383262947;Ademan;woo!