Dear Stanislav, Thank you for your message. It certainly feels great to learn about like-minded people :) I tried to connect to webchat, but for some reason it doesn't work in my (seriously restricted) browser. Anyway, e-mail is the communication tool that I am most comfortable with. Reading your site, I had the feeling that, like myself and many others, you are in search of a reasonable sound and simple system that one can understand from the logic gates to applications, ideally something like a lisp machine. A long time ago, in the late eighties, I myself tried to develop such a system, on a home-made 68K with a cp/m executive (the file system was on a second, z80 processor, that had a floppy drive). It's name was 'li' meaning a half lisp (but it had a simple, non-optimizing JIT compiler that directly generated 68K code). After we moved on PCs, I transformed the lisp into a C library, `il'. Then, I made 'iltwo', 'ilthree', 'ilfour' and 'ilfive'. A version rewritten in Ada, with real-time garbage collection, is `niliada' (you can find this online). I did some applications in each of these. However, they are very simple implementations, and they are slow (on memory management systems such as modern intels). I spent a lot of time with these, it was great fun, but I can't replicate sbcl, nor to speak of a ada2lisp universal system as I was daydreaming at that time. These are projects that need hundreds of people working for decades full time. Thus, I am now quite happy with linux+sbcl+gnat(+R) except for the occasional upgrade headache. Still, the ideea of a _simple_ system that is at the same time usable as a lisp machine and can be understood completely by a single person remains fascinating. I have seen minuet, colibri, haiku and others, interesting approaches in themselves, but only partial. There is also mmix (that still doesn't have a nnix) and some based on java and other virtual machines. You know, gnu-hurd+guile+apps was also a bold attempt at a portable lisp machine. I wonder whether anybody, ever, tried a review of these. All the best, Alexandru